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Sunday Overnight Open Thread (6/25/17) Rusty Edition

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(Here's hoping this isn't the entire ONT)

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Quotes of The Day


Quote I

A vacation is what you take when you can no longer take what you've been taking. Earl Wilson


Quote II

Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. Steve Jobs


Quote III

Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. Samuel Johnson

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Quite frankly I would feel safer if law abiding citizens carried or had easy access to a firearm. Ohio State House and Chamber of Commerce battle over gun possession.

Business groups are fighting an Ohio Senate proposal that will open them up to civil lawsuits by employees and others who bring handguns on to company property.

“For us this isn’t a concealed carry issue as much as this is an employer rights issue,” said Chris Kershner, vice president, public policy & economic development for the Dayton Area Chamber of Commerce.

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From my backyard. The Founding Fathers continue to roll SPIN in their graves.

In 2004, Murr and her siblings sought to sell one of two parcels of land that had been in the family for decades. Murr's parents bought the land in the 1960s, built a cabin on one parcel, and left the other parcel undeveloped as a long-term investment.

The family attempted to sell the vacant parcel to pay for renovations to the cabin, but were prevented from doing so by regulations restricting the use of land along rivers like the St. Croix approved by the state in the 1980s, long after the purchase of both lots.

Those regulations effectively gutted the value of the Murrs' property. The property was appraised at $400,000 before the Murrs tried to sell it. When the family came to the county, now the only eligible buyer, the county offered $40,000.

The ONT certainly hopes that POTUS Trump gets to replace Anthony Kennedy, sooner rather than later.

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The Fed. What is it good for? Apparently causing recessions.

While the answer to the first part remains elusive, and to Goldman it is still relatively low, the answer for the second part is clear: in the post WW2, virtually every recession (and depression) was caused by the Fed.

Goldman starts with a historical overview of the causes of recessions. Looking at 33 US recessions since the 1850s, it finds that while many pre-WW2 recessions originated in the financial sector, most post-WW2 recessions were caused by monetary policy tightening and oil shocks and, and sentiment-driven swings in borrowing and investment led to recessions in both eras. A similar IMF study of the key contributors to 122 advanced economy recessions shows that even before 2008, financial crises were a fairly common source of modern recessions too.

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The ONT Musical Interlude


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BECAUSE. That's why.


June 25, 2009, Michael Jackson died at the age of 50, after suffering heart failure at his home in Beverly Hills. The eighth child of the Jackson family, he debuted with his brothers as a member of The Jackson 5 in 1964. Jackson is credited for transforming the music video into an art form and a promotional tool, four of his solo albums are among the world's best-selling records: Off the Wall (1979), Bad (1987), Dangerous (1991) and HIStory (1995), while his 1982 Thriller is the world's best-selling record of all time with sales of over 50 million. via thisdayinmusic.com


1945, Born on this day, Carly Simon, US singer, songwriter, (1973 UK No.3 and US No.1 single 'You're So Vain', 1974 US No.5 single with James Taylor 'Mockingbird'). In 2015, after keeping quiet for more than 40 years, Carly Simon admitted that 'You're So Vain' was about Warren Beatty, but only one verse of it. Simon said the other verses were about two other men. via thisdayinmusic.com

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What's that old saying about Socialism? The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Uncle Bernie and his money grubbing wife continue to dip their toes into hot water.

eff Weaver, Sanders' longtime top political adviser who heads Sanders' political organization, Our Revolution, confirms to Politico Magazine that Bernie and Jane Sanders have lawyered up. The couple has retained Rich Cassidy, a well-connected Burlington attorney and Sanders devotee, and Larry Robbins, the renowned Washington-based defense attorney who has represented I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and disgraced former Rep. Bill Jefferson, to represent Jane Sanders in the matter.

Now, President Donald Trump's Justice Department is handling an investigation that will proceed at the discretion of a U.S. attorney of Vermont that Trump has yet to appoint.

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The FCC is opening up the way for internet in areas without internet service. OneWeb to launch over 700 satellites.

FCC chairman Ajit Pai has released a statement announcing that the commission has granted OneWeb approval for US market access to launch a network of internet-beaming satellites into orbit. OneWeb, which is backed in part by Richard Branson, has been working on providing broadband internet via satellite since 2000, when it acquired the satellite spectrum formerly owned by SkyBridge.

OneWeb plans to launch a constellation of 720 low-Earth orbit satellites using non-geostationary satellite orbit (NGSO) technology in order to provide global, high-speed broadband. The company’s goal has far-reaching implications, and would provide internet to rural and hard-to-reach areas that currently have little access to internet connectivity. Additionally, OneWeb has a targets of “connecting every unconnected school” by 2022, and “bridging the digital divide” by 2027.


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HOLY SHIT! Important discovery or just a pile of crap?

Archaeologists excavating at an ancient Viking settlement in southeast Denmark thought they were dealing with a typical country town from the Middle Ages. Then a single toilet changed everything.

Museum of Southeastern Denmark archaeology researcher Anna Beck was digging up what she thought was a semi-subterranean workshop, only to find that she was knee-deep in... yeah, you guessed it. She'd found a layer of medieval poop.

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When you think of Canada, what do you think of? Hockey? Funny bacon? SCTV? Snipers?

Crushing a record previously held by a British sniper, a Canadian special forces member now holds the title title for the longest confirmed kill. Measured at 3,450 meters, or approximately 2.2 miles, the member of the Joint Task Force 2 killed an Islamic State insurgent in Iraq using a McMillan TAC-50 rifle. For obvious reasons, officials are not releasing the name of the soldier, but say that the shot was “confirmed by video and other data”. Now that’s a LiveLeak video I want to see,

Me too!

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World War I still haunts France over 100 years later. The Red Zone is still a No-Go.

The Zone Rouge (Red Zone) is a region near Verdun, France spanning some 460 square miles of mostly virgin forest – at least on the surface. It’s teeming with history, making it a major tourist attraction and a source of income for locals – yet no one lives there and nothing is built there.

Despite its draw, access is restricted because not everyone who goes in comes out alive. If they do, there’s no guarantee that they’ll do so with all of their limbs intact. Of those who do come out (whole or otherwise), death sometimes takes a while to catch up.

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What is your state known for? The most impactful inventions.

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Will the Moron Cookbook feature this? Baking in your car.

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Sexually active old people seem to be smarter.

A new study suggests that when old people do sex, it is also good. Maybe even more good. The researchers behind a new study already knew that increased mental, social, and physical activity is associated with less cognitive decline. So, they posit, seeing as sex consists of mental, social, and physical activity, more sexing must also mean better thinking.

Hey Honey, do you want be smarter and healthier?

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He was quickly captured. Why? Genius Award Winner.


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Someone. Someone loves you. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Buyer Beware.

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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. No worthwhile animals were destroyed in the making of the ONT.

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Weekly commenter stats 6-25-2017


Top 10 commenters:
1 [511 comments] 'Insomniac' [71.80 posts/day]
2 [379 comments] 'Under Fire'
3 [377 comments] 'Steve and Cold Bear'
4 [371 comments] 'bluebell - mangiamo!'
5 [347 comments] 'Village Idiot's Apprentice '
6 [343 comments] 'Vic We Have No Party'
7 [315 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
8 [311 comments] 'rickb223'
9 [311 comments] 'Deplorable Jay Guevara'
10 [299 comments] 'yankeefifth'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [94 names] 'Under Fire' [13.21 unique names/day]
2 [74 names] 'Steve and Cold Bear'
3 [51 names] 'bicentennialguy'
4 [46 names] 'The Political Hat'
5 [44 names] 'Duncanthrax'
6 [41 names] 'Bertram Cabot, Jr.'
7 [36 names] 'Notorious BFD'
8 [34 names] 'Insomniac'
9 [30 names] 'Adirondack Patriot'
10 [29 names] 'tu3031'

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:45 PM




Comments

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1 who cares about first

Posted by: Lemmiwinks and his flaming boner of winning at June 25, 2017 09:35 PM (WwFyb)

2 Not me.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:35 PM (EgOr3)

3 Great ONT, Mis! Still working on it and lmao.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:36 PM (EgOr3)

4 Already?? Well... hey everyone!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (CNHr1)

5 Nope!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (tr2D7)

6 Night all!

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 09:38 PM (Eynls)

7 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news .

http://politicalhat.com/?p=13587

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 25, 2017 09:38 PM (vBeA5)

8 ULULULULULULULULUL! There is no more beautiful sound than the MisHum call to prayer.

Posted by: Achmed Mohammed at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (xAvrH)

9 Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.

Steve Jobs


Okay Steve. Most people will never do great work of any sort - which is just the nature of "great work" - so I don't think it's a good idea to tell most people that they will just never be satisfied. That's not how things work for most people. Settling is a large part of the facts of life for the great majority of people. Don't shit on them just to make yourself feel better. You had billions. You should have just been happy enough with that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)

10 Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. Samuel Johnson

C.S. Lewis said something similar, I believe in Mere Christianity. Something like, love is an act of the will, don't sit around trying to manufacture phony feelings within yourself.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (xAvrH)

11 Jacko touched a lot of people.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (GsAUU)

12 Sexually active old people seem to be smarter.
A new study suggests that when old people do sex, it is also good. Maybe even more good. The researchers behind a new study already knew that increased mental, social, and physical activity is associated with less cognitive decline. So, they posit, seeing as sex consists of mental, social, and physical activity, more sexing must also mean better thinking.


The median IQ in The Villages must be around 165 then.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

13 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)

Wow.. I was just having this conversation this afternoon with my SIL. Most of us are not lucky enough to have a job we love.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (CNHr1)

14
You ONT is full of mistaks.

Posted by: otho at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (lmIoG)

15 I estimate half of the guys and gals that I work with are in violation of our company's edict that legal CCW permit holders (Ohio) can NOT keep a weapon in their car while in a company parking lot.

Bastards

Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (tr2D7)

16 Kindness, fondness - whatever it takes.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (Id9+8)

17 Time to haul out the Glenlivet 18, in honor of the SpaceX doubleheader this weekend. *clink*

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (sdi6R)

18 I'm number one. By a lot. I need to get a life. Maybe I can get one at the second-hand life store.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (0mRoj)

19 Can't stop laughing at that last photo!

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (ANIFC)

20 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)

I would add to that Steve Jobs nonsense that, no matter what you are doing, you're going to feel a whole lot better about yourself if you do it well.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (EgOr3)

21 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (KCxzN)

22 The median IQ in The Villages must be around 165 then.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

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Or, that's the number of doses of penicillin dispensed daily. Tough call.

Posted by: GOULD at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (QoDdh)

23 15 I estimate half of the guys and gals that I work with are in violation of our company's edict that legal CCW permit holders (Ohio) can NOT keep a weapon in their car while in a company parking lot.

Bastards

Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (tr2D7)

Who's going to know?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (0mRoj)

24
I estimate half of the guys and gals that I work with are in violation
of our company's edict that legal CCW permit holders (Ohio) can NOT keep
a weapon in their car while in a company parking lot.



Bastards





Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (tr2D7)

Of course - they should be on their persons.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (Id9+8)

25 What is your state known for? The most impactful inventions.


--Linky no worky.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)

26 /paedo sock

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)

27 --Linky no worky.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)
Yeah, me, too. And I wanted to see it.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (EgOr3)

28 The median IQ in The Villages must be around 165 then.
Posted by: Insomniac
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I wouldn't bet on it. I have an old HS buddy who is a gerontologist practicing in The Villages. His patients' most frequent complaints are STDs.

Ewwwwww.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (tr2D7)

29 Yeah, me, too. And I wanted to see it.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (EgOr3)

--Heh, Mis Hum kinda called his own shot with the rusty truck pic.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (GsAUU)

30 Yeah, me, too. And I wanted to see it.
Posted by: Peaches at June




Peaches, click the link. when you get to the page go to the address bar and eliminate the " at the end of the address and refresh

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (0wem/)

31 When MJ died he was first taken UCLA Medical. UCLA demanded he be taken elsewhere: 'we're a hospital not a circus.' LA Sheriff Dept sent a choppa.

Posted by: Death Flight at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (bc2Lc)

32 Nice old pickup rotting out in the field. Oh wait, that's Obama's legacy.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (aMlLZ)

33 I'm number one. By a lot. I need to get a life. Maybe I can get one at the second-hand life store.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:44 PM (0mRoj)
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I can't believe I'm not number one. I've been posting like a monkey on crack, "encouraging" people to submit recipes.

But it's working, because we have 400 recipes so far! Wheeeeeeee!

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (sBOL1)

34 Today is the anniversary of the death of Gen. Geo. Armstrong "where the hell did all them dam injuns come from???" Custer.

A genocidal idiot, last in his class at West Point.

Covered himself and the USA in shame, to this very day.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (w7KSn)

35 Of course - they should be on their persons.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (Id9+

Yup. I carry everywhere it's not statutorily prohibited to do so. And sometimes I'm...flexible on that.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

36 Carly Simon was hawt in that sweater.

Posted by: Eromero at June 25, 2017 09:48 PM (zLDYs)

37 27 --Linky no worky.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)
Yeah, me, too. And I wanted to see it.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:45 PM (EgOr3)

Leave one damn " out of the formatting and you end up with unhappy customers.

Sorry folks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 25, 2017 09:48 PM (ZTRlp)

38 9 Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.

Steve Jobs

Okay Steve. Most people will never do great work of any sort - which is just the nature of "great work" - so I don't think it's a good idea to tell most people that they will just never be satisfied. That's not how things work for most people. Settling is a large part of the facts of life for the great majority of people. Don't shit on them just to make yourself feel better. You had billions. You should have just been happy enough with that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)

That's something that the GOP, until Trump, didn't get. They played up the spirit of entrepreneurship, which is a good thing, but forgot that the vast majority of people won't and don't live their dreams, they just punch a clock 9-5 if they're lucky.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:48 PM (ANIFC)

39 Shamed by you English?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2017 09:48 PM (VdICR)

40 -Heh, Mis Hum kinda called his own shot with the rusty truck pic.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (GsAUU)
I love that picture!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:48 PM (EgOr3)

41 I wouldn't bet on it. I have an old HS buddy who is a gerontologist practicing in The Villages. His patients' most frequent complaints are STDs.

Ewwwwww.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (tr2D7)

They're some randy old bastards up in there.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (0mRoj)

42 Wow.. I was just having this conversation this afternoon with my SIL. Most of us are not lucky enough to have a job we love.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (CNHr1)

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I have had a job I love for 28 years. I am giving it up early to consult some next year and travel/goof off because I love the wife much more than the job.

Posted by: GOULD at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (QoDdh)

43 How fitting, that the outhouse story links to arse-technica.

Posted by: Spellchecker at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (0m0zi)

44 So bluebell is from Bombay. There's gonna be some great curries and chutneys in the Cookbook!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (DMUuz)

45 Erev tov lekholam!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (e9G8E)

46 45 Erev tov lekholam!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 25, 2017 09:49 PM (e9G8E)

Gesundheit.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:50 PM (0mRoj)

47 *waves*

Hi Horde!

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 09:50 PM (/o9Qk)

48 Steve Jobs telling people to do what they love to do is really rich. What Jobs loved doing was fucking over people and making money doing it. And he was a control freak. You worshiped Jobs or you worked somewhere else.

Apple products are over priced and proprietary. You can't do anything with apple hardware but what Jobs permits. You can't run anything but apple software on apple hardware, and you can't run apple software on anything but apple hardware.

Outsourcing? Where do you think apple hardware is made?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 09:50 PM (m9X4Y)

49 I'm still laughing at that photo!

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (ANIFC)

50 Yup. I carry everywhere it's not statutorily prohibited to do so. And sometimes I'm...flexible on that.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

It's really a shame you're allergic to cats.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (Id9+8)

51 47 *waves*

Hi Horde!
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 09:50 PM (/o9Qk)

Whoa whoa whoa, careful with that prod!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (0mRoj)

52 A young friend of mine spent almost a year with his mom at The Villages.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (EgOr3)

53 When you think of Canada, what do you think of? Hockey? Funny bacon? SCTV? Snipers?

Their bacon isn't funny. It's boring pseudo-bacon. It's just ham.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (xAvrH)

54 ULULULULULULULULUL! There is no more beautiful sound than the MisHum call to prayer.
Posted by: Achmed Mohammed at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (xAvrH)



Your ululation is tickling my uvula.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 09:53 PM (lIZQs)

55 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879016848473436160

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879016941914140672

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017033731649536

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017143605526529

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017260681109504

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2017 09:53 PM (AOrEZ)

56 11 Jacko touched a lot of people.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (GsAUU)

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Roll em up, we have a winner.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 25, 2017 09:53 PM (/BP7d)

57 I'm not sure if those Inventions by State are any more reliable than most of the other X by State pages.

Camouflage is Virginia's? 1978?

That's the entry for the home state of Thomas Jefferson??

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 09:53 PM (GsAUU)

58 52 A young friend of mine spent almost a year with his mom at The Villages.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (EgOr3)

He was neck-deep in MILF then.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)

59 You can't run anything but apple software on apple hardware, and you can't run apple software on anything but apple hardware.

Outsourcing? Where do you think apple hardware is made?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 09:50 PM (m9X4Y)

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I'm a Windoze guy by Corporate edict, but know that you can any Windows programs on Macs using something like Bootcamp.

Posted by: GOULD at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (QoDdh)

60 World War I still haunts France over 100 years later. The Red Zone is still a No-Go.

"No-go"? They should rehome all their Muzzies there.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (xAvrH)

61 Star Trek Beyond is dull and stupid. It is easily the worst of the three Chris Pine movies, and I feel mislead that it got 81% rating.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (VdICR)

62 Welcome back, MisHum! So good to have you home.

That WI real estate story is maddening. Kennedy needs to go.

A Virginian invented camouflage? Cool.

No Arizona weird cooking methods in our cookbook, yet.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (sBOL1)

63 He was neck-deep in MILF then.
Posted by: Insomniac at June



well, GILF of GGILF

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0wem/)

64 50 Yup. I carry everywhere it's not statutorily prohibited to do so. And sometimes I'm...flexible on that.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

It's really a shame you're allergic to cats.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (Id9+

Ain't it?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)

65 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017347893350400

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017440864342016

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017529833914368

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017615221547009

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/879017710251909120

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (AOrEZ)

66 I put my head in a fishbowl, JK an astronaut.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (6Ll1u)

67 Shamed by you blog?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (IqV8l)

68 The advice from Steve Jobs sounds like one of those "How To Think Like A Billionaire" things where Step 1 is "Acquire A Billion Dollars".

I had a job that I loved. 40 US patents. I was considered one of the leading experts in the field. Research in that field disappeared almost overnight. I was dispensed with like a used kleenex. Took another job in a non-related area, a big pay cut and a financially-devastating relocation.

It's good to be the king. Fuck you, Steve Jobs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (6FRey)

69 63 He was neck-deep in MILF then.
Posted by: Insomniac at June



well, GILF of GGILF
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0wem/)

Yeah, guess you're right.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (0mRoj)

70 A fucking fire hydrant.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (89T5c)

71 Whoa whoa whoa, careful with that prod!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:52 PM (0mRoj)


Whoops sorry. I know we don't want any Sanity flying aimlessly around on the ONT!

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (/o9Qk)

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Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (sBOL1)


Thanks Julia Bluebell



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 25, 2017 09:56 PM (ZTRlp)

73 Whoops sorry. I know we don't want any Sanity flying aimlessly around on the ONT!
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (/o9Qk)
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It might run into the Viking toilet.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 09:56 PM (sBOL1)

74 The Fed. What is it good for? Apparently causing recessions.

Actually, Congress is to blame. THey are the idiots who set the rules of the Fed. The Fed, if charged with the only duty real duty it is ever supposed to have - to protect the stability of the currency - there would never be any problems with it. But Congress decided to give the Fed political duties and allow it to attack the stability of the currency (literally - as inflation is the default target of the Fed, with a standing ovation from Congress). Because of this bullshit I can't really hld the Fed, itself, responsible for the shit it does. It never should have been allowed to do this stuff.

... but the feral government loves to spend more money than it has and once Nixon totally released the dollar from any connection to gold ... it was all over.

Now, even with the Fed maintaining a stable currency there would still be recessions and depressions. That is life. Nothing is smooth. But you can't fight what is natural. You have to just understand that that's how things are ... and will always be.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:56 PM (rZ+mb)

75 He was neck-deep in MILF then.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)
He's completely gay. They were on him from all sides. Said the younger people in the area are all on crack.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:57 PM (EgOr3)

76 Yeah, MisHum, it's lame, I know. I'm running out of ideas. Might have to go back to some of the older ones.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 09:57 PM (sBOL1)

77 I was dispensed with like a used kleenex. Took
another job in a non-related area, a big pay cut and a
financially-devastating relocation.



It's good to be the king. Fuck you, Steve Jobs.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (6FRey)

I was also dispensed with like a used kleenex. Makes no difference how valuable we were in a relative way. I may not have insurance again until I'm 65.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:58 PM (Id9+8)

78 Camouflage is Virginia's? 1978?

That's the entry for the home state of Thomas Jefferson??
Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 09:53 PM (GsAUU)


Virginia didn't invent f**king slaves...

Posted by: The Brown Sugar Hat at June 25, 2017 09:58 PM (vBeA5)

79 75 He was neck-deep in MILF then.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)
He's completely gay. They were on him from all sides. Said the younger people in the area are all on crack.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:57 PM (EgOr3)

Good. God.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:58 PM (0mRoj)

80 >>Sexually active old people seem to be smarter.

Well, yea.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (/tuJf)

81 Hey sonny, how bout some shuffleboard and then a rusty trombone?

Posted by: Villages GILF, disease free-maybe at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (89T5c)

82 Those long isolated winters out on the plains can bring on the crazy. How could a flatlander invent the ski lift? There's noplace to lift to in the whole state.

Posted by: Cornhusker Crazy at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (0m0zi)

83 Shamed by you blog?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM


If me let Mishum help me could poof read.

Posted by: otho at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)

84 That's the same as my dad's truck which he never finished restoring. I consider bringing it out here to finish the job, but I don't have as much skill as he did.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (HwVbl)

85 I had a job that I loved. 40 US patents. I was considered one of the leading experts in the field. Research in that field disappeared almost overnight. I was dispensed with like a used kleenex. Took another job in a non-related area, a big pay cut and a financially-devastating relocation.


Sounds like a divorce...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (0mRoj)

86 He was neck-deep in MILF then.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)
He's completely gay. They were on him from all sides. Said the younger people in the area are all on crack.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:57 PM (EgOr3)

Good. God.
Posted by: Insomniac at June




well, GILf and GGILF work either way.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (0wem/)

87 From the Danish Viking article:

"We know from cultures the world over that the treatment of feces is surrounded by complicated cultural and social rules and taboos. From toilet culture, you can learn a lot about the norms and rules of that particular society... "

So, what will the complicated cultural and social rules and taboos about The Barrel say to digital archeologists of the future?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (DMUuz)

88 70 A fucking fire hydrant.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (89T5c)

--LMAO, which state?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (GsAUU)

89 I've punched a clock for close to 50 years. I actually did find something I loved. Being creative and being my own boss. It may take off, it may not but I'm betting it will because so far I think it's done pretty damn well. With a little help from my friends

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (CNHr1)

90 81 Hey sonny, how bout some shuffleboard and then a rusty trombone?
Posted by: Villages GILF, disease free-maybe at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (89T5c)

Disease free my ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (0mRoj)

91 I'm not so sure that The Fed causes recession, but the idea the the economy can be 'managed' by our betters is PR BS. Financial derivatives come to mind.

I never understood the point of interest rates swaps. Makes no sense to me. Hedging, I get, swaps, no.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (m9X4Y)

92 Spring was never waiting for us, girl
it ran one step ahead
as we followed in the dance
between the parted pages and were pressed
in love's hot fevered iron
like a striped pair of pants

MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
all the sweet green icing flowing down
someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
and I'll never have that recipe again
oh no

I recall the yellow cotton dress
foaming like a wave
on the ground around your knees
the birds like tender babies in your hands
and the old men playing checkers by the trees

MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
all the sweet, green icing flowing down
someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
and I'll never have that recipe again
oh no

there will be another song for me for I will sing it
there will be another dream for me, someone will bring it
I will drink the wine while it is warm and never let you catch me looking at the sun
and after all the loves of my life
oh after all the loves of my life, you'll still be the one

I will take my life into my hands and I will use it
I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it
I will have the things that I desire and my passion flow like rivers through the sky
and after all the loves of my life
oh, after all the loves of my life
I'll be thinking of you and wondering why

[Batman dance instrumental section]

MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
all the sweet, green icing flowing down
someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
and I'll never have that recipe again
oh nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (eMKNe)

93 PA, logprof.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (89T5c)

94 Posted by: otho at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)


***Snorts***

Thanks otho.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (ZTRlp)

95 Face it, unless you're happily self-employed to your company you aren't anything more than a cost. Your job is to succeed in the confidence trick that you're worth more to the company than you cost.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (6FRey)

96 @68

1. Acquire $1B
2. ???
3. Profit!

OK, now I'm out of here for Riyal.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (Eynls)

97 Shamed by you blog?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 09:54 PM

If me let Mishum help me could poof read.
Posted by: otho at June 25, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)
---------

I can't stop laughing at this. I love this place.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (sBOL1)

98 If Family Guy were British.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=xEmx1RYo1QU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (Nwg0u)

99 HOLY SHIT! Important discovery or just a pile of crap?

Bullshit. Wouldn't the fæces have biodegraded over the course of 1000 years? I find it hard to believe there was any left. Since she was "knee deep" in it, obviously it wasn't petrified. Maybe some Muslim squatters had taken up residence there recently.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 10:03 PM (xAvrH)

100 Disease free my ass.
Posted by: Insomniac
----
Right you are Insomniac - I don't think I'm going out on a limb here thinking there may be a causal connection between the ass and disease.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (tr2D7)

101 Archaeologists excavating at an ancient Viking settlement in southeast Denmark thought they were dealing with a typical country town from the Middle Ages. Then a single toilet changed everything.

There was only one single toilet in the whole country of France up until 1978 (and they continued to use magazines and newspapers for toilet paper until 2003). Before that ... all I can tell you is it was not wise to stand too long in the corners of French rooms ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (rZ+mb)

102 Bluebell.... sent in a recipe during ye olde foode threade.

"Porky Pigchops".

You have the option of using it as the final recipe in the book, and ending with...."ebdbdbd....That's All, Folks!"




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (v5iqM)

103 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June




so are you Steve or Cold Bear? Is this one of those shared nics like the shared email accounts couples have?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (0wem/)

104 Is it just me, or does it seem like there is a lot of fascination with poop lately. The news seems to be full of it. Everywhere you go, there it is.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (m9X4Y)

105 Virginia didn't invent f**king slaves...
Posted by: The Brown Sugar Hat at June 25, 2017 09:58 PM (vBeA5)

--Heh. They called getting it on with black chicks "nutmegging" back then.

For TJ there was no doubt an emotional attachment to Sally Jennings since she was the half-sister of his deceased wife and probably bore a resemblance.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (GsAUU)

106 --LMAO, which state?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (GsAUU)
Colorado was tampons. That's the only one that really stuck in my mind.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (EgOr3)

107
The relationship between sex and intelligence is a complex one. On the one hand, intelligence correlates with sex drive and "trying new things", it goes negative with promiscuity and frequency.

so dumb = slutty, but boring
smart = kinkier but less

But it's so complex that's not the long and short of it by far.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM (8O3HH)

108 93 PA, logprof.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM (89T5c)

--Those lists are so friggin' useless . . . and yet I still click on them.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:05 PM (GsAUU)

109 Colorado was tampons. That's the only one that really stuck in my mind.
Posted by: Peaches at June



not the worst place to have it stuck.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:05 PM (0wem/)

110 Am I out before 100? Love you guys but I should sleep. And sleep. And sleep.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 10:05 PM (Id9+8)

111 I'm trying to overcome my Econ education, so I'm a bit resistant to the idea that the Federal Reserve is the primary cause of a recession. I can see the idea that as of late the tools the Fed relies on have become largely ineffective. Typically if the money supply is insufficient, increasing it is a tool to prevent recessions...but we can only push that string so much before it won't work. It's only really good for specific situations and not as a band aid to offset job-killing policies from other parts of the government.

Kind of scattered in my thoughts.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (tVWQB)

112 Sexuality seniors describes me and the Missues. Early 70s and we still bump uglies 2 or 3 times a week. You're so vain perfectly describes the messiah. Jane Fonda's bucket list of f *cking Che, the sadistic murder, was such a missed opportunity.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (qJ+iT)

113 I retired over 20 years ago but I work because I like to. And besides Mrs. E lets me keep what I earn now. Of course she is 'in charge" of all my retired pay

Posted by: Eromero at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (zLDYs)

114 Thank you, Jim - I will see it tomorrow when Weasel pulls the recipes off for me. I look forward to it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (sBOL1)

115 Ok, speaking of hygiene, I read where the Vikings had worms, intestinal parasites, and the Viking long houses were biological hazard sites. Speaking of poop.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (m9X4Y)

116 a constellation of 720 low-Earth orbit satellites

Sounds like horseshit to me. The latency on those things is going to be awful.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:07 PM (HwVbl)

117 Sounds like a divorce...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:00 PM (0mRoj)


Let's put it this way, I'll have to die in the harness, assuming they don't shoot me first.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:07 PM (ghQg8)

118 What time tomorrow does Kennedy announce his retirement? And will Ginsburg even make it down to breakfast?

Posted by: Inkwiring Mynd at June 25, 2017 10:08 PM (qYCgM)

119 But it's so complex that's not the long and short of it by far.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:04 PM


So carpet vs. hardwood is a factor, too?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 10:08 PM (DMUuz)

120 95 Face it, unless you're happily self-employed to your company you aren't anything more than a cost. Your job is to succeed in the confidence trick that you're worth more to the company than you cost.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (6FRey)

And hope that if you ARE an expert, in a technical field... you can somehow remain an expert...

Hell.... I wrote tech manuals and procedures for equipment and technologies that no longer even exist...

Technology seems to have about a 5 year life now.... so you need to become an expert on the new crap... then you have about 4 years before its outmoded... and you have to start the cycle all over again...

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 10:08 PM (NgKpN)

121 109 Colorado was tampons. That's the only one that really stuck in my mind.
Posted by: Peaches at June



not the worst place to have it stuck.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:05 PM (0wem/)

--LMAO, remember the chick with the tampon earrings?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:09 PM (GsAUU)

122 9 You had billions. You should have just been happy enough with that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)


Well, I was a weird guy, so no. But not so weird that I didn't have a pancreas.

Anyway, where I screwed up is that thinking my extraordinary life, and the way it fitted into my extraordinary talents, put me in a position to give advice to everyone else. I've been trying to haunt celebrities to tell them about my revelation, but they won't listen. Gwynneth told me to put marbles into a body part I didn't even have when I was alive!

Posted by: Zombie Steve Jobs at June 25, 2017 10:09 PM (iMxBJ)

123 95 Face it, unless you're happily self-employed to your company you aren't anything more than a cost. Your job is to succeed in the confidence trick that you're worth more to the company than you cost.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:02 PM (6FRey)

And hope that if you ARE an expert, in a technical field... you can somehow remain an expert...

Hell.... I wrote tech manuals and procedures for equipment and technologies that no longer even exist...

Technology seems to have about a 5 year life now.... so you need to become an expert on the new crap... then you have about 4 years before its outmoded... and you have to start the cycle all over again...
Posted by: Don Q., at June



well, relationships work well too. My first boss was fired for five minutes, until his clients let the firm know they were taking their business wherever he moved.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:09 PM (0wem/)

124 Gwynneth told me to put marbles into a body part I didn't even have when I was alive!

Posted by: Zombie Steve Jobs at June 25, 2017 10:09 PM (iMxBJ)
Try steaming it open. We'll wait.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (EgOr3)

125
The Fed famously has a Dual Mandate, price stability and maximum employment.

Those two are a conflict. There's a third "mandate" as well, "moderate of long term interest rates". Which of course, would conflict directly with the first.

Of course, in reality, the Fed can do whatever the fuck it wants. Congress are idiots, they don't understand it, and no federal judge would either.

This was clear by their behavior during the Crisis/Crash of '08, where they violated pretty much no question, the law governing them.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (8O3HH)

126 so are you Steve or Cold Bear?

Say 'Steve and Cold Bear' out loud to yourself and I think you'll understand the nic.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (HwVbl)

127 Even if you are self employed, you rely on your clients, especially your steady ones.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (w7KSn)

128 115 Ok, speaking of hygiene, I read where the Vikings had worms, intestinal parasites, and the Viking long houses were biological hazard sites. Speaking of poop.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:06 PM (m9X4Y)


And yet, we persisted.

Posted by: Zombie Vikings at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (iMxBJ)

129 "OneWeb plans to launch a constellation of 720 low-Earth orbit satellites using non-geostationary satellite orbit (NGSO) technology in order to provide global, high-speed broadband."

What an excellent vector for Internet surveillance...

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (n1dE4)

130 39 Shamed by you English?

-
Contact Kieth Richards and learn to talk good!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (Nwg0u)

131 LMAO, remember the chick with the tampon earrings?
Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June



heh, yep.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (0wem/)

132 Skandia,

Lets not speak of viking poop unless its frozen. But if global warming thaws it lots of gasoline, matches, and followed by bleach will be required.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (qJ+iT)

133 Okay, you all passed the mental health test.

Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (eMKNe)

134 Ugh I have the munchies. Come here, crunchy Cheetos.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (/o9Qk)

135 And no, I ain't shamed my Engliss.

My penis size OTOH...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM (eMKNe)

136 Say 'Steve and Cold Bear' out loud to yourself and I think you'll understand the nic.
Posted by: t-bird at June




that is a lot of work.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:12 PM (0wem/)

137 Bullshit. Wouldn't the fæces have biodegraded over the course of 1000 years? I find it hard to believe there was any left. Since she was "knee deep" in it, obviously it wasn't petrified. Maybe some Muslim squatters had taken up residence there recently.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 10:03 PM (xAvrH)

Oh.... crap... she found our secret outhouse!

1. Secret outhouse to store poop...
2?
3. Profit!

Posted by: Dirty Underpants Gnomes at June 25, 2017 10:12 PM (NgKpN)

138 And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking
***
Very few people get to do a job they love. The advice you should only "settle for a job you love" is just wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 25, 2017 10:12 PM (aZq03)

139 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at June 25, 2017 10:13 PM (mknWS)

140 People don't usually get to do the job they love.

That's why the paycheck had to be invented.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 10:14 PM (eMKNe)

141 >>He's completely gay. They were on him from all sides. Said the younger people in the area are all on crack.


Posted by: Peaches

Apparently the older ones are too.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 10:14 PM (/Nite)

142 I'll have to die in the harness, assuming they don't shoot me first.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:07 PM (ghQg


That ain't all it's cracked up to be...

Posted by: Catherine the Great at June 25, 2017 10:15 PM (vBeA5)

143 I've had jobs I liked and some not so much. My take is that as long as I like my colleagues, the work can be bearable even if grinding. Heck, that's pretty much the case with my current gig.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:15 PM (GsAUU)

144 That hilarious English ad is from some publication from San Diego County - probably northern, as the area code in one adjacent ad and references to Poway and Escondido suggest.

But there's something interesting here. Who is targeted by such an ad? As in - which group/s aspire to have excellent English? I'm assuming that non-native speakers of some sort are targeted. The predominant linguistic minority, typically, exhibits little concern about having perfect English - ahemm. So I'm guessing Asian immigrants.

Yeah, lots of speculation there. But not baseless.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 25, 2017 10:15 PM (v9gSJ)

145 ***Snorts***

Thanks otho.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 25, 2017 10:01 PM


You write like a college you let me examine you log. It big log needs a hand.

Posted by: otho at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (lmIoG)

146 Lets not speak of viking poop unless its frozen. But if global warming thaws it lots of gasoline, matches, and followed by bleach will be required.
Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:11 PM

I thought it was a bit of a stretch to extrapolate from that one site excavated, to all Vikings everywhere. I don't remember if it was more than one site. Part of the article was how the intestinal parasites weaken the hosts, yet the Viking had a reputation for being big, strong, hardy fighters.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (m9X4Y)

147 Imagine the archaeology interns, laboriously brushing every bit of the dirt and dust off of the preserved Viking poop.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (iMxBJ)

148 Michael Jackson died at the age of 50, after suffering [artificially induced]heart failure at his home in Beverly Hills.

FIFY

Posted by: Bill R. at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (IuYIh)

149 --and spesaking of, time to hit the hay early.

Good night good Horde!

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (GsAUU)

150 Shamed by you English?

But wait! There's more!

http://tinyurl.com/6elbap

Posted by: tu3031 at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (qJhUV)

151 When did "customers" start being called "clients"?

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:18 PM (sdi6R)

152 I am a devoted and unyielding metalhead. Heavy fucking metal all the way, yo!

But I do have Michael Jackson's Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous. They're really really good albums. Thriller is pretty goddamned outstanding.

Yes, it's pop. It's fucking dance music. BUT! It's really well written music overall. Lots of pop tarts make a lot of ho-hum done to death music as an excuse to show off their dance skills but Jackson seems to have had a knack for, if not songwriting, understanding how important it is overall. They are very listenable albums.

Posted by: Robert also loves Vincent Price's narration BOIIII!!!!!! at June 25, 2017 10:18 PM (mknWS)

153 so are you Steve or Cold Bear? Is this one of those shared nics like the shared email accounts couples have?
Posted by: yankeefifth


No, just me. It's just a distortion of Steven Colbert. I would never marry a bear. I'm surprised Leonardo DiCaprio is still alive.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 10:18 PM (xAvrH)

154 150 http://tinyurl.com/6elbap
Posted by: tu3031 at June 25, 2017 10:16 PM (qJhUV)


Oh, that is completely awesome. "Learn you the more about words and use them how to your ideas, form and express."

This would make a good laminated poster.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:19 PM (iMxBJ)

155 Kind of like how it wasn't Mary And Barry who were co-mayors of DC?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 25, 2017 10:19 PM (PFy0L)

156 138 And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking
***
Very few people get to do a job they love. The advice you should only "settle for a job you love" is just wrong.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 25, 2017 10:12 PM (aZq03)

Yep. Almost nobody gets to do what they love for a living.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:20 PM (0mRoj)

157 Customers and clients, a difference without a distinction, likely.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:20 PM (w7KSn)

158 So I googled it via yahoo ... um, anyway.

Comes right up ScienceNordic.com, dated 2015

Not sure how reliable the site might be

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycvwazm2

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:20 PM (m9X4Y)

159 My job...without my work bestie, I would loathe going in every day. At least I have someone to commiserate with. It's still pretty much shit but could be so much better with competent management.


Oh well.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 10:21 PM (/o9Qk)

160 That's a 49 Ford pickup up there.

I had a sweet one in the early 70s. AOP would have appreciated the work done before I paid the princely sum of $450 for it. The body was straight, no rust, and brush painted red. It had a Chevy 283 hooked by converter to the original La Salle tranny. No heater, but I was young and could get away with it in Texas.

Dual exhaust with Smitty Steelpacks, best exhaust note and rack-back I have ever heard. Guys would follow me into parking lots to ask about them.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 10:22 PM (3myMJ)

161 @107: Forwarded that to the wife.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:23 PM (n1dE4)

162 I think that there is no such job as one without a bad day every now and then.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:23 PM (w7KSn)

163 162 I think that there is no such job as one without a bad day every now and then.
Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:23 PM (w7KSn)

When the bad days outnumber the good days, then it's time to move on if you can.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

164 And the only way to do great work is to love what you do.

Great advice, Steve! Pay us, everybody, while we do what we love!

Posted by: Evergreen State College Class of 2017 at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (kCDOM)

165 Steve Jobs was completely and totally full of shit. No accountant or HR person or business analyst said in high school, hey , I wanna do THAT. But there are a lot of important, necessary jobs that are impossible to love. And yet they pay well enough and get you by. Get a f- ing hobby you love or better yet, love and support your family instead of wailing about self f-ing fulfillment. F- you Steve Jobs. Arrogant one in a billion useless perspective. Totally destructive.

Posted by: Fat man in teh baftub at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (u/Jym)

166
Customer is someone who buys goods and services.

A client is one who engages the services of a professional.

That is the Webster distinction but there is some overlap.

Business who call their customers clients are trying to jazz it up and make their customers think they are more special.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (8O3HH)

167 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:10 PM (8O3HH)

The "maximum employment" mandate by Congress is such a total hunk of shit ... that no one with even a grade school education can take that seriously. Every Congress that lets that stand is equally guilty for the disaster that is the Fed.

And the Fed has specifically, and very vocally, been anti-price stability for many, many decades. The Fed has operated with a target inflation rate, which is anti-price stability in itself, but it argues that it needs this for the "maximum employment" bullshit.

Of course, this is all built around the economic myth that a stable currency inhibits economic growth. I don't know why so many people take this seriously - and accept it. It's just outright horseshit. Deflation doesn't kill an economy. 2% deflation is no worse than 2% inflation.

The tech industry has been a highly deflationary industry since its inception ... but people keep buying tech products like crazy. There used to be the argument that, since 6 months from any purchase of a computer you are able to get a computer that's twice as powerful for half the price, that people would put off buying computers. But that didn't happen. People buy them, even with the deflationary knowledge, because that technological deflation is just part of the environment and no one even gives it a second thought. But that is the grand argument the Fed constantly makes about the "evil" of deflation, in general terms. It's nutty and only the most gullible would believe it. The sad part is that that shows us that a huge percentage of this population (and the "intelligentsia") are as gullible as they come.

Congress really needs to do its job and set the Fed straight. The Fed's only purpose (and only real function) is to protect the integrity of the dollar.

And another thing about the Fed ... the way people are put on the Fed is insane. Seats reserved for labor?? WTFFF? It seems that so many of the people populating the Fed don't even know jack shit about monetary systems. That has to stop.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:25 PM (rZ+mb)

168 Going through boxes in the attic of Ms Kinetic's house she inherited from her dad, we found two front-age sections, Chicago Tribune, 1963, Kennedy assassination and funeral.

If you were over the age of maybe 10 or 12 then, you remember exactly where you were when you heard about it, and who brought you the news. You also remember the funeral, the riderless horse, reversed boots in the stirrups, Jackie, the kids, the flame at Arlington, the shock, the solemnities, the mourning.

Two things came to mind seeing the king sized headlines on these 54-year old papers.

The first was, does anyone display front pages of papers that reported this horrific event? Even after all this time, is this "assassination porn," and thus should stay in its box or trunk, and not framed and hung on the wall?

The second is, what would happen today if The Donald was killed the same way, in public, his blood and brains splashed on his wife, the whole thing on film? JFK was killed in Texas, this one would be in NYC or San Francisco.

In '63 there were no cheers, no laughing, no one said he had it coming.

In this far-different USA we now inhabit, what would happen?

I think we all know, and I don't know whether to be frightened, sad, or just disgusted.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 25, 2017 10:26 PM (WpPbD)

169 well, lots of people quit trying to find their preferred job. some sort of trade between work and play. seems they decide the job is tolerable and allows them to do things they like so good enough.

some people are miserable trying to get the preferred job they never get.

neither is necessarily better or worse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:26 PM (0wem/)

170 My red zone is no go when you see open and weeping sores or bumps around it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 25, 2017 10:26 PM (0sA5C)

171 167 The tech industry has been a highly deflationary industry since its inception ... but people keep buying tech products like crazy.

Are you not conflating monetary deflation with technological progress? The second seems wonderful, the first bad.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:28 PM (iMxBJ)

172 Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.

That's why I need to run again in 2020! I love politics sexually.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 25, 2017 10:28 PM (xAvrH)

173 I think that there is no such job as one without a bad day every now and then.
Posted by: navybrat at June




well, even steve jobs had bad says.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:28 PM (0wem/)

174 the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking

In other words, I *should* drive a bulldozer thru downtown Palo Alto. Because I just might like it!

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:29 PM (kCDOM)

175 Eleventy zillion humanities Ph.Ds trying to find tenure-track positions say Steve Jobs is full of shit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (QuP08)

176 I was having this conversation the other day about dream jobs and the jobs we currently have now.

I think if you presented the option to people of the job they have now, or another job.....I think a large majority of people would pick the other job.

The problem is rarely do any of us get that dream job, that perfect opportunity. My best friend did, and she LOVES her job. Loves it, and she is SO happy. But usually, "moving on" means moving on from a job you aren't totally happy in, to an unknown job that you may not be totally happy in either.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (smD62)

177 well, even steve jobs had bad says.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:28 PM (0wem/)

That time he had no clean black turtlenecks?

Posted by: Robert also loves Vincent Price's narration BOIIII!!!!!! at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (mknWS)

178 "A client is one who engages the services of a professional."

That's me. The pro. The guy you call when everything is going tits up.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (w7KSn)

179 "well, even steve jobs had bad says."

Oh FFS!

Posted by: The Chicken at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (3myMJ)

180 well, in fairness, jobs says the only way to be "truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work." Truly satisfied is a pretty high standard.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (0wem/)

181 166
Customer is someone who buys goods and services.

A client is one who engages the services of a professional.

That is the Webster distinction but there is some overlap.

Business who call their customers clients are trying to jazz it up and make their customers think they are more special.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (8O3HH)


OK, that makes sense.

I'm old-fashioned. I still call my customers customers.



And note that I said "old-fashioned" instead of "old school", which is more newfangled.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (sdi6R)

182 some people are miserable trying to get the preferred job they never get.

On the other hand, that's why Hollywood has so many waiters and waitresses. Just waiting for their break!

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:31 PM (kCDOM)

183 Goatwhore - Chaos Arcane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4leSeCTZdU

Posted by: Robert at June 25, 2017 10:31 PM (mknWS)

184 175 Eleventy zillion humanities Ph.Ds trying to find tenure-track positions say Steve Jobs is full of shit.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (QuP0


Doesn't reduce the schadenfreude any, though.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:31 PM (iMxBJ)

185 "A client is one who engages the services of a professional."

Indeed, it is...

Posted by: Hugh Grant at June 25, 2017 10:32 PM (kCDOM)

186 That time he had no clean black turtlenecks?
Posted by: Robert also loves Vincent Price's narration BOIIII!!!!!! at June




first time he left Apple, Next computer, lots of shit went wrong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:32 PM (0wem/)

187 well, in fairness, jobs says the only way to be "truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work." Truly satisfied is a pretty high standard.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:30 PM (0wem/)

High class hookers with rich clientele?

Posted by: Robert at June 25, 2017 10:33 PM (mknWS)

188 Speaking of dream jobs, this one babe in a beret gave a dreamy job.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at June 25, 2017 10:33 PM (XoldI)

189 On the other hand, that's why Hollywood has so many waiters and waitresses. Just waiting for their break!
Posted by: t-bird at June



yep

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:33 PM (0wem/)

190 And sometimes.....you never have good days.

Posted by: Amy Schumer's leather pants at June 25, 2017 10:33 PM (0sA5C)

191 >> Indeed, it is...

The ladies of Singapore's Orchard Towers, known as the "Four Floors of Whores", agree.

The Four Floors was from last night's ONT. I'd never heard of that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:34 PM (8O3HH)

192 In one's younger years, make money as best as you can, then save and invest wisely, and enjoy the golden years.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:34 PM (qJ+iT)

193 Goatwhore

How you doin'?

Posted by: Al Queda fighter at June 25, 2017 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

194 High class hookers with rich clientele?
Posted by: Robert at June




well just making the point that truly satisfied is a really high bar. no one is going to be truly satisfied if they hate their job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (0wem/)

195 Was recently offered $44k a year to get a PhD; post-graduation salary supposedly >$100k. Seriously considering it. Wife thinks I'm crazy.

But it's gonna be 3 more years, I'm in my mid-30s, and I'm not that enamored with research. On the other hand, it's not costing me anything.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (n1dE4)

196 191 The Four Floors was from last night's ONT. I'd never heard of that.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:34 PM (8O3HH)


Good save.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (iMxBJ)

197 In one's younger years, make money as best as you can, then save and invest wisely, and enjoy the golden years.
Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:34 PM (qJ+iT)

So...get drunk, high and laid?

Posted by: Fuckin' Kids These Days at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (mknWS)

198 Are you not conflating monetary deflation with technological progress? The second seems wonderful, the first bad.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:28 PM (iMxBJ)


They are very closely related and the arguments for both are the same. Technological advancements make for economic deflation in tech products. The Fed talks about general monetary deflation which makes for economic deflation across a broad spectrum of products. The tech example cuts to the core of the argument and is accurate and illustrative.

The Fed (and most people) don't seem to understand that it isn't really the static inflation or deflation rate that makes a difference. Whatever it is, people get used to it and continue on with their lives. What is destructive are serious changes in the rate - whether inflationary or deflationary. It is during times when these rates are changing that people alter their usual behavior. But once the rate settles (no matter where it settles at, within reason) people just get used to it and act as they usually do. But static mild deflation is no more dangerous than static mild inflation. The deflation in the tech industry is, of course, anything but mild, but that hasn't changed anyone's behavior. No one says ... "I'm not going to buy this computer because there will be a better one in 6 months" because they know that they would say the exact same thing in 6 months, so it doesn't even exist as an issue. The same is true of investors in an environment of static mild deflation.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (rZ+mb)

199 The Steve Jobs quote is something I wish my constitution allowed me to do.

I've lived a 35 year nightmare of working a job I absolutely hate. I blame my warped sense of responsibility and aversion to debt and owing people.

My job did provide me knowledge that helped my family tremendously in a few life altering situations which I otherwise wouldn't likely have obtained. I got that going for me.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 10:36 PM (IDPbH)

200 Was recently offered $44k a year to get a PhD; post-graduation salary supposedly >$100k. Seriously considering it. Wife thinks I'm crazy.

But it's gonna be 3 more years, I'm in my mid-30s, and I'm not that enamored with research. On the other hand, it's not costing me anything.
Posted by: Apostate at June



well, the opportunity to earn more than $44k per year for three years.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:36 PM (0wem/)

201 "On the other hand, it's not costing me anything."

Except time and effort, that is. Looong hours.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:37 PM (n1dE4)

202 I no longer live to work, I work to live. I find that more than satisfactory.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 25, 2017 10:38 PM (17QyB)

203 i had a boos once say "isn't this fun?" (we were sitting around discussing market forces and changes in our field [pharmacy)

i said "no, if it was fun, we'd be sitting around in shorts and t-shirts, drinking beer while we're doing it...

there;s a reason they call it "w*rk" and have to pay you to show up...

if it was fun, they could charge you admission to show up, or at least assess a cover charge and a 2 drink minimum/

w*rk is what you do so you can afford to do the things you want in your off time...

or, at a more basic level, what you do so you can survive.

everything else is touchy feelie bullshit.



Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2017 10:38 PM (qeqxZ)

204 Amy Shumer's leather pants!?!?!!!

Egads, the stink is what only trannies want to smell to make them XY to XX wymen from Yemen.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (qJ+iT)

205 So....if you should only settle for jobs you love....and liberals tell us illegals are the only ones that will clean our toilets, does this mean that they think central Americans dream of cleaning up their shit?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (aZq03)

206 I posted before reading the comments. Should have realized that subject would have been 'popular'.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (IDPbH)

207 Was recently offered $44k a year to get a PhD; post-graduation salary supposedly >$100k. Seriously considering it. Wife thinks I'm crazy.

No guarantee of anything after 3 years.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (FU97j)

208 So....if you should only settle for jobs you love....and liberals tell us illegals are the only ones that will clean our toilets, does this mean that they think central Americans dream of cleaning up their shit?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (aZq03)


LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:39 PM (rZ+mb)

209 As said above, how well you get along with your co-workers may be more important than how much you like your work.

Work you enjoy + co-workers you like = dream job.

Work you don't enjoy + co-workers you don't like = nightmare.

Work you enjoy + co-workers you don't like = not so good.

Work you don't enjoy + co-workers you like = not so bad.

Posted by: davidt at June 25, 2017 10:40 PM (XoldI)

210 198 The same is true of investors in an environment of static mild deflation.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (rZ+mb)


Either I have not understood, or I do not agree. The stagnation of money movement over the 2008-2016 years strikes me as a testament to the power of actual deflation. If you can't make money, why not just sit there, and wait for better times? Technology is useful in the short term, even if you know better things are coming. 0.25% interest rates in return for increased risk, are not.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:40 PM (iMxBJ)

211 I love my job. I just hate the fucking idiots I have to deal with in doing my job.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 25, 2017 10:41 PM (yzxic)

212 This thread isn't about you.

Posted by: Carly Simon at June 25, 2017 10:42 PM (xAvrH)

213 13 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 09:40 PM (rZ+mb)

Wow.. I was just having this conversation this afternoon with my SIL. Most of us are not lucky enough to have a job we love.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM

I will be forever grateful that my father took a job he didn't like and kept at it even when he grew to hate it, so we could grow up in a safe place and in a real house. He also worked strange hours so we could have him home for dinner.

My siblings and I consider a job good if we like our co-workers. I had a lousy job that paid well enough to send me to college so I could get a job I really like (and occasionally love). My sis works in a manufacturing place and she likes her co-workers; much better than the "great" job in finance with jerks. Both my brothers have changed jobs because they couldn't deal with mentally-ill bosses (the only way I can describe the bizarre behavior).

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 10:42 PM (hQWkm)

214 well just making the point that truly satisfied is a really high bar. no one is going to be truly satisfied if they hate their job.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM (0wem/)

I wonder if that's proportional to how time consuming and demanding that job is. I'm guessing most people can clock out and leave their job behind and not care while focusing on most every other aspect of their lives.

Now if you hated your job but if you had a hot woman with tig ole bitties...

Posted by: Robert hates his broken G key at June 25, 2017 10:42 PM (mknWS)

215 @195

Wow congrats, it wouldn't even be a question for me.

As to my dream job...well my dream job is to be a homemaker, but other than that...

my dream job is a work from home mindless data entry type job. I know it sounds crazy, and I am vastly overeducated and overqualified for it. But, to be able to work in my PJs....anytime I want...if I wake up at 2 am, and can't sleep, I can work. Or I could work extra some days, and have longer weekends. The flexibility would be ideal. But, mainly, for me, the idea of having something that won't cause me or other people grief is the gold standard. Not having to bring home things (even just mentally) from work. Not having to deal with sucky sucky people most days...perfect.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at June 25, 2017 10:42 PM (smD62)

216 I like what I do, I don't like my job.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 10:43 PM (LTHVh)

217 It only took a couple of jobs before I decided the secret was to avoid jobs and do business.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 10:44 PM (3myMJ)

218 The Fed. What is it good for? Apparently causing recessions

Anyone that claims to be pro-markets and supports the Fed needs to find a neck-sized wrench to loosen their sphincter that has obviously restricted blood flow to their cranium.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2017 10:44 PM (udajc)

219 I'd say use what you like or love to inform your decision, including "will the money I earn allow me to do what I love, or find out what I love?" but to just come home and say "honey, I'm going to be a professional golfer!" is daft advice.

That being said, I'm going to be an astronaut. And a pro football player.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:45 PM (kCDOM)

220 Time for bed. Goodnight, all.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 10:45 PM (/o9Qk)

221 One of the funniest comments I heard from someone about a dead end job was:

They pay me just enough to keep me from quitting and I work just hard enough to keep from being fired.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 10:46 PM (IDPbH)

222 The stagnation of money movement over the 2008-2016 years

I don't think that is true.

Stock market indices are at all time record highs. High dollar items are setting record prices. It is only cheap commodities that are resistant to higher prices because the people who buy cheap can't afford any price increase. Look at automobiles.

My standard price inflation gauge is Excedrin in the 250 capsule size. When I first started buying that size in 2000 it was just less than ten bucks, now it is over fifteen. I've tried buying generics, but they don't seem to work for me. Maybe it's the placebo effect, but I keep paying the price because, otherwise, I hurt.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:46 PM (m9X4Y)

223 In one's younger years, make money as best as you can, then save and invest wisely, and enjoy the golden years.
---
NOW you tell me...


Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2017 10:46 PM (qeqxZ)

224 I'm talented at currency speculation, but my true passion is stirring shit up.

Posted by: George Soros at June 25, 2017 10:46 PM (xAvrH)

225 Work you don't enjoy + co-workers you like = not so bad.
Posted by: davidt at June 25, 2017 10:40 PM (XoldI)

I like my coworkers enough I bake them shit.

I just baked some lemon poppyseed doughnuts.

One of my coworkers I wouldn't mind making the mother of my children.

Posted by: Robert hates his broken G key at June 25, 2017 10:48 PM (mknWS)

226 Russian comment from back in the Soviet days:

they pretend to pay us and we pretend to w*rk.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2017 10:49 PM (qeqxZ)

227 Fuckin Kids,

No just grow the fuck up and get it done. BTW, I enjoyed my work, construction trade. Made good money, invested wisely. Worth 1 million in terms of real estate and 2 million plus in paper assests. Not bad for a farm boy with no over rated degree. Grow the fuck up. Get real. Its not complicated, but common sense is required.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 10:49 PM (qJ+iT)

228 For the Paolo, it is not work.

Posted by: Paolo at June 25, 2017 10:49 PM (tr2D7)

229 Okay, I really ought to be in bed.

Good night!

Posted by: Robert hates his broken G key at June 25, 2017 10:49 PM (mknWS)

230 195 Was recently offered $44k a year to get a PhD; post-graduation salary supposedly >$100k. Seriously considering it. Wife thinks I'm crazy.

But it's gonna be 3 more years, I'm in my mid-30s, and I'm not that enamored with research. On the other hand, it's not costing me anything.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:35 PM

When I went back to school, I realized it would take me about 3 years to finish a 2-year program and I'd be "old" compared to classmates. My late, great honey asked me, "How old will you be if you DON'T do it, and how will you feel about it then?" My job wasn't even the full-on crapfest it became, but I wanted out.

On the other hand, a brother turned down an opportunity because the benefits didn't outweigh the time and trouble.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 10:49 PM (hQWkm)

231 "No guarantee of anything after 3 years."

It's a pipeline into a well-established organization. I'm basically being head-hunted. So yeah, not literally guaranteed, but I don't think they'll be paying me $132k and giving me a PhD that they paid for to go somewhere else. But if they do... *shrug*

"Wow congrats, it wouldn't even be a question for me."

Thanks. It's weird because it'll be my 6th academic degree and 2nd doctorate. Wife wants to settle somewhere and quit moving, forever. I could do that now with a moderate professional salary, but the work here is boooring.

Turns out aircraft software maintenance isn't very exciting. Who knew?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:50 PM (n1dE4)

232 One for the road...


Byzantine - Justinian Code

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxr6qfSYKLo

Thrash metal like GAWD intended!

Posted by: Robert hates his broken G key at June 25, 2017 10:50 PM (mknWS)

233 pretty sure MJ died in Lost Angels, not BH.

Hombely Hills (sp?), IIRC, is BH *adjacent*.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2017 10:51 PM (qeqxZ)

234 222 The stagnation of money movement over the 2008-2016 years

I don't think that is true.

Stock market indices are at all time record highs. High dollar items are setting record prices. It is only cheap commodities that are resistant to higher prices because the people who buy cheap can't afford any price increase. Look at automobiles.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 10:46 PM (m9X4Y)


I think the sentence you quoted from me is exactly true. I also think what you said is exactly true. This stuff is complicated, and I don't have a complete handle on it. But I could do a better job of sorting it out a bit if I had more energy tonight. Perhaps another time.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:51 PM (iMxBJ)

235 After flying a bit this week- to the source of our nation's misery- it struck me how many, many, many jobs just have a single qualification: you must be humanoid. If you have no skills at all but can follow a few directions, there must be 100 million jobs out there.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 10:51 PM (kCDOM)

236 If a gasoline tanker truck turns over near you do not run to the truck to get free gasoline.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 10:52 PM (IqV8l)

237 9 Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.

Steve Jobs

Okay Steve. Most people will never do great work of any sort - which is just the nature of "great work" - so I don't think it's a good idea to tell most people that they will just never be satisfied. That's not how things work for most people. Settling is a large part of the facts of life for the great majority of people. Don't shit on them just to make yourself feel better. You had billions. You should have just been happy enough with that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair



As long as I don't hate my job, I'm fine.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 25, 2017 10:53 PM (pY+s4)

238 Good night, guys and dolls.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 10:53 PM (hQWkm)

239 Either I have not understood, or I do not agree. The stagnation of money movement over the 2008-2016 years strikes me as a testament to the power of actual deflation.

The stagnation of those years had nothing to do with monetary deflation. It had to do with Barky and the left's propensity to stagnate any economy it has any control over. Stagnation is the end-goal of all leftist policies and those years are a pretty clear illustration of that.

If you can't make money, why not just sit there, and wait for better times? Technology is useful in the short term, even if you know better things are coming. 0.25% interest rates in return for increased risk, are not.

Posted by: Splunge at June 25, 2017 10:40 PM (iMxBJ)


But, interestingly, there was still tons of money moving into low interest vehicles (and even negative interest instruments, which shows you how fucked up things were). But those interest rates were not due to any actual deflation. They were a construct of the government and central bank policies, which were working so hard to kill the economy. They weren't real and there's nothing you can learn from them as pertains to actual economic or monetary issues.

Yes, low interest rates weaken the desire, or perceived need, to deposit money in the bank. It makes the banks earn their money rather than just being the recipients of a political push to force people to keep their money in them. But ... this is why we have all of a sudden had so many of these government and lefty types proposing to do away with actual physical cash and to force everyone to keep all their money in a bank, so that they can institute "negative interest rates" which is the most insane idea ever broached in finance.

And just creating inflation on purpose (just by printing money) in order to force people to puke out their stashes of cash (as they actually argue) is just crazy. It doesn't help the economy at all ... any more than your clutch going out on you and having your motor running at 5000 rpms while you're only moving along 4 mph really helps your perception of how the car is driving.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 10:53 PM (rZ+mb)

240 Evenin' everyone.

Is that top pic AOP's spare parts bin?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 25, 2017 10:53 PM (IcT7t)

241 My dream job was to be a worker at a day care center.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (xAvrH)

242 While IANAL I do work in land development and what I think is going on with that Wisconsin case is that the government is taking a veeeerrry broad interpretation of a common practice.
Basically, if you have two or more contiguous lots and one or more are considered non-buildable then the non-conforming lot(s) will be merged with the nearest conforming lot.
The dirty trick is to change the regulations to render a property unbuildable without public input/hearings, and/or in a targeted manner.

And no disrespect to the Murrs, but there are hundreds of New Jersey property owners who literally lost millions of dollars in property values when the Highlands Act was jammed through.

To his credit Christie has been trying to find ways to change it, but the deep blue legislature isn't having any of it. I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that the areas most affected tend to vote republican and the beneficiaries are democrats.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (dab45)

243
You can look at what the Fed did with the monetary diarrhea as leading to a very specific type of inflation. The propping up of prices of the stock market, bad debt, and other worthless shit out there.

The realization of the worthlessness of it was about to cause a Big Reset. So, continue the Big Lie was what they had to do.

There is general inflation, they just play games with the CPI and similar to hide it, and believe their own cooked numbers. They're getting high on their supply.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

244 Aww, oglaf did one for the moronettes this week
http://oglaf.com/princessparty/

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 25, 2017 10:56 PM (6FqZa)

245 244 Aww, oglaf did one for the moronettes this week
http://oglaf.com/princessparty/
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 25, 2017 10:56 PM (6FqZa)

Uh, is this one x-rated?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 10:57 PM (0mRoj)

246 Insomniac: no, a lot of Oglaf *is* x-rated, but if I link a specific page here it's SFW.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 25, 2017 11:00 PM (6FqZa)

247 I'm surprised that anybody can quote Steve Jobs on any topic with any seriousness. The man appears to have been a total ass who may have perjured himself in a paternity case when he filed an affidavit claiming he was impotent. Frankly, you don't get much lower than that.

It appears he did eventually reconcile with his daughter but I suspect that is more to her willingness to forgive than anything to do with him.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 25, 2017 11:00 PM (xUc0d)

248 I guess I'm really lucky. I like my job.

I never set out to do this, but I've been in the same job since 1990. It's a good fit for me.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 11:01 PM (sdi6R)

249

Nipple Tweaker for the Victoria's Secret shows sound likes a fun job.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 11:02 PM (8O3HH)

250 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

I think the Fed has been trying to create Banks that are too big to fail.... where they would be guaranteed government intervention...

TARP money was primarily used by larger banks, to buy up smaller banks....

Note, the Fed Res Board members are primarily voted on by .... Banks who own 'stock' in the Fed Res System... the same banks that were given no interest loans to buy up smaller banks... and who get a Dividend from the stock they hold in the Fed Res Bank itself...

Note, the Fed Res balance sheet is now 4.3 TRILLION dollars... In the year 2000 it was right around 600 billion.


Posted by: Don Q. at June 25, 2017 11:04 PM (NgKpN)

251 "Nipple Tweaker for the Victoria's Secret shows sound likes a fun job."

A species of fluffer.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:04 PM (n1dE4)

252 **scans room for AOP**

Hmm. Nope, not here.

Anybody else ever have to reinstall the trunk torsion bars/springs into an '87(ish) Buick GN or G-body?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at June 25, 2017 11:04 PM (rxW5j)

253 Steve Jobs would have survivorship bias, to give such impractical advice.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2017 11:05 PM (VdICR)

254 >>>If a gasoline tanker truck turns over near you do not run to the truck to get free gasoline.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 10:52 PM (IqV8l)<<<

That there is crazy talk!

Posted by: Florida Man at June 25, 2017 11:06 PM (rxW5j)

255 And no disrespect to the Murrs, but there are hundreds of New Jersey property owners who literally lost millions of dollars in property values when the Highlands Act was jammed through.

To his credit Christie has been trying to find ways to change it, but the deep blue legislature isn't having any of it. I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that the areas most affected tend to vote republican and the beneficiaries are democrats.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (dab45)

the lots were ACRES in size.... most houses sit on less than 1/4 acre now days...

Posted by: Don Q. at June 25, 2017 11:06 PM (NgKpN)

256 >>So....if you should only settle for jobs you
love....and liberals tell us illegals are the only ones that will clean
our toilets, does this mean that they think central Americans dream of
cleaning up their shit?

Posted by: 18-1

Liberals think everyone dreams of cleaning up their shit.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 11:07 PM (/Nite)

257 And I would also add that the policy over the past 8 years of the feral government borrowing (and spending) round about 8% of GDP every friggin year is something pretty much unheard of in our history. Outside of a couple of years of major war that sort of thing has never been approached. No economy will ever get itself together with a government that is operating like that. 8% of GDP borrowed (printed up) and then spent in the economy to claim a whopping 2% of GDP "growth" ... that the sort of shit you only read about in trashy novels. That has been the most animating economic factor of the past 8+ years. The zero and negative interest rates were designed only to allow that to continue. None of it had anything to do with actual economics ... and the minute that government spending stops, whatever it was supporting will immediately stop and appear as if it had never even been around (which is the basic nature and uselessness of most government spending).

Through all this, and the myriad strangling policies, this economy hasn't had a chance to do anything. It's pretty much been kept in a government-induced coma.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 11:07 PM (rZ+mb)

258 I guess I'm really lucky. I like my job.
I never set out to do this, but I've been in the same job since 1990. It's a good fit for me.
Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 11:01 PM (sdi6R)
******
The life of a Gigolo

Posted by: L, Elle at June 25, 2017 11:07 PM (Rsi2C)

259 Ron Paul got one thing right, end the FR's control. In fact hang them high on Jekkyl Island. Post it on youtube. Then repeal the 17th.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 25, 2017 11:08 PM (qJ+iT)

260

When I was a kid, there was a rupture in one of the three pipelines that run through around. The result was massive tidal pools of good #2 diesel fuel.

Now, my father and some others went out to see and talk to the pipeline people who were surveying the damage. One brought up "sneaking down here one night and pumping up some of that fuel".

The pipeline guy say, "No, you can't do that. But if you do, don't smoke". And then he gave detailed instructions on just how he would do it if he were going to do the forbidden thing.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 11:08 PM (8O3HH)

261 250 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

I think the Fed has been trying to create Banks that are too big to fail.... where they would be guaranteed government intervention...

TARP money was primarily used by larger banks, to buy up smaller banks....

Note, the Fed Res Board members are primarily voted on by .... Banks who own 'stock' in the Fed Res System... the same banks that were given no interest loans to buy up smaller banks... and who get a Dividend from the stock they hold in the Fed Res Bank itself...

Note, the Fed Res balance sheet is now 4.3 TRILLION dollars... In the year 2000 it was right around 600 billion.


Posted by: Don Q. at June 25, 2017 11:04 PM (NgKpN)



Well stated.

And when it inevitably falls apart, most people will blame "capitalism" and demand more socialism. It's as predictable as the sunrise.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 11:08 PM (sdi6R)

262 "If a gasoline tanker truck turns over near you..."

Shee-eet, that's the only way you can GET any gas!

Posted by: Toecutter at June 25, 2017 11:09 PM (3myMJ)

263 What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Steve Wozniak at June 25, 2017 11:09 PM (xAvrH)

264 They must have been smoking in Pakistan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 11:10 PM (IqV8l)

265 What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Steve Wozniak at June 25, 2017 11:09 PM (xAvrH)


After those gay cadillac commercials we're not really sure what you are.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 11:10 PM (rZ+mb)

266 Oh oh oh! I figured out how Dr Venkman got the Thorazine which he used on Dana Zuul.

Dana got jumped by a hell beast from Uruk in her fridge, so went to the shrink. The shrink prescribed her the Thorazine. Then Dana was about to take some of that, and decided - fuck this, I'm not crazy, but NOW whom I gonna call?

So she still had that stuff in her medicine-cabinet.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 25, 2017 11:11 PM (6FqZa)

267 247 I'm surprised that anybody can quote Steve Jobs on any topic with any seriousness. The man appears to have been a total ass who may have perjured himself in a paternity case when he filed an affidavit claiming he was impotent. Frankly, you don't get much lower than that.

It appears he did eventually reconcile with his daughter but I suspect that is more to her willingness to forgive than anything to do with him.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 25, 2017 11:00 PM (xUc0d)



I think the chance to inherit a couple of billions of dollars helped her to be a little more willing than someone whose dad was a janitor.

Posted by: Ashley Judds' Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, the Deplorable at June 25, 2017 11:11 PM (1JnAL)

268 What am I? Chopped liver?
Posted by: Steve Wozniak


Shaddap and invent us the iJetpack!

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:13 PM (eMKNe)

269 Farrah Fawcett had the misfortune of dying on the same day as MJ

Posted by: Al Bundy at June 25, 2017 11:15 PM (rF2KB)

270
Jetpackamerica.com

One tiny draw back, a long extension cord, and it only works over water.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 11:15 PM (m9X4Y)

271 Jetpackamerica.com

One tiny draw back, a long extension cord, and it only works over water.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 11:15 PM (m9X4Y)


So you have to keep pissing to keep yourself aloft?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 11:16 PM (rZ+mb)

272 the lots were ACRES in size.... most houses sit on less than 1/4 acre now days...
Posted by: Don Q. at June 25, 2017 11:06 PM
(NgKpN)

not sure whose lots you're referring to, but regardless, if property that was once subdividable loses that characteristic then that's a taking. There were a lot of sizable properties in NJ that only a single small dwellingwill be permitted, and obtaining permits for that house will cost a bundle

Posted by: random lurker commenter at June 25, 2017 11:17 PM (dab45)

273 the Fed was put in place in response to the panic of 1893 which was caused by both failure of congressional backed railroad bonds and the fixing of the Treasury's pricing of silver in dollars.

The Fed ever since has tried to balance business cycles caused by wildly fluctuating interest rates and devaluation of the dollar by making the dollar a fiat currency to manipulated at will.
This causes hyperinflation in 100% of all economies that have tried this, starting with Kublai Khan's adoption of paper money

Governments love fiat currencies because they make all the money their own, to be played with at will, and by printing new money they can take value from the public without actually having to shake the public down for the funds. People like Enron Adviser Paul Krugman feel all virtuous about this as "the inefficiencies caused" are for a good purpose. Inefficiencies being what he calls recessions and destruction of wealth for those who are not good close personal friends to people like Paul Krugman, ex Enron adviser.

Now, if you would like to read about a classic example of fiat currencies turning hyper inflationary you could read this short book,

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/6949
Fiat Money Inflation in France: How it Came, What it Brought, and How it Ended, by Andrew Dickson White


This readable book by one of the leading lights of of the intellectual left describes how this happens about every time - Weimar Germany, Argentia, you name it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 11:18 PM (mkDpn)

274 >>>Jetpackamerica.com

One tiny draw back, a long extension cord, and it only works over water. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 11:15 PM (m9X4Y)



So you have to keep pissing to keep yourself aloft?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 11:16 PM (rZ+mb)<<<





Sounds easy enough. Huma, get me a jetpack, and a lot more booze.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton, who will never be President at June 25, 2017 11:19 PM (rxW5j)

275 We do better than Apple! We invent jetpack that runs purely on battery power. Whole thing no bigger than size of the palm of your hand.

Only glitch is, battery explodes while you're flying in the air.

Posted by: Samsung Galaxy Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:20 PM (eMKNe)

276 If you have no skills at all but can follow a few directions, there must be 100 million jobs out there.
Posted by: t-bird
-----------

Yeah, but you have to show up at work, on time and straight.

"80% of life is showing up." - Woody Allen

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:21 PM (OdK9v)

277 >> A species of fluffer.

Even more fun might be a pussy primper. I, no a friend of mine watched one of those "behind the scenes" things of a photo shoot, and you wouldn't believe the care and detail given to that.

They want to get that thing just right.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 11:22 PM (8O3HH)

278 The photo IS kind of what I think AOP's west 40 might look like.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:22 PM (OdK9v)

279 L,Elle!

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 11:29 PM (0wem/)

280 Love those 49-51 Ford series cars and pickups. A guy I know has one in a beach town in the Mid Atlantic. Drives it all around, lots of rust, never garaged. Still gets around well.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:31 PM (eP+dt)

281 Made a salsa with jalapenos and red chili peppers from the garden, along with some onions and garlic. Super hot and delicious but my whole body feels like it is on fire from the cutting and cooking. That was almost three hours ago and my hands are still burning. Not worth the pain.

Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2017 11:31 PM (NbRJx)

282 275 We do better than Apple! We invent jetpack that runs purely on battery power. Whole thing no bigger than size of the palm of your hand.

Only glitch is, battery explodes while you're flying in the air.
Posted by: Samsung Galaxy Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:20 PM (eMKNe)


We do it better.

Only glitch is that mid flight it stops to install an update.

Posted by: Microsoft Windows Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:33 PM (1JnAL)

283 In fact hang them high on Jekkyl Island. Post it on youtube. Then repeal the 17th.
Posted by: colfax mingo
----------

heh. I have a copy of this, in much better condition than this: http://tinyurl.com/ybazbabo

Most valuable book that I own. The membership list of the club reads like a Who's Who of American industry.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:35 PM (OdK9v)

284 >>>We do better than Apple! We invent jetpack that runs
purely on battery power. Whole thing no bigger than size of the palm of
your hand.

Only glitch is, battery explodes while you're flying in the air.

Posted by: Samsung Galaxy Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:20 PM (eMKNe)

We do it better.

Only glitch is that mid flight it stops to install an update.
Posted by: Microsoft Windows Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:33 PM (1JnAL)<<<





Vee do it better.



In Soviet Russia, jet pack you.

Posted by: Soviet Russia Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:35 PM (rxW5j)

285 So my neighbor I mentioned several weeks back, the one who bought the Maserati. The Maserati has not been around for a while and she has been bumping around in her Volvo. So I found myself on the elevator with her and asked where the Maserati was. She has decided to have it painted yellow. Brand new factory fresh Maserati and she is having it painted. Sigh.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 11:36 PM (0wem/)

286 Dogs fed their meat and buttermilk and put up for the evening. Up at 5:00 AM to start it all again. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 11:36 PM (QuP08)

287 >>>We do better than Apple! We invent jetpack that runs purely on battery
power. Whole thing no bigger than size of the palm of your hand.



Only glitch is, battery explodes while you're flying in the air.

Posted by: Samsung Galaxy Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:20 PM (eMKNe)<<<




Wanna team up?

Posted by: Tesla Motors Jetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:37 PM (rxW5j)

288 We do it better.
Only glitch is that mid flight it stops to install an update.
Posted by: Microsoft Windows Jetpack Division


And then Clippy pops up:

"It looks like you're plunging to your certain death. Need help?

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:37 PM (eMKNe)

289 Made a salsa with jalapenos and red chili peppers from the garden, along with some onions and garlic. Super hot and delicious but my whole body feels like it is on fire from the cutting and cooking. That was almost three hours ago and my hands are still burning. Not worth the pain.
Posted by: Ripley at June




heh. you should pour vegetable oil over them.

use the food processor when you do it next time.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 11:37 PM (0wem/)

290 Made a salsa with jalapenos and red chili peppers from the garden, along
with some onions and garlic. Super hot and delicious but my whole body
feels like it is on fire from the cutting and cooking. That was almost
three hours ago and my hands are still burning. Not worth the pain.


At least you remembered to wash your hands before going to the bathroom.

If you hadn't, you wouldn't be here telling us about it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 25, 2017 11:38 PM (IcT7t)

291 Love those 49-51 Ford series cars and pickups. A guy I know has one in a beach town in the Mid Atlantic. Drives it all around, lots of rust, never garaged. Still gets around well.
Posted by: RM
---------

Neighbor has a a Model A pickup. Unrestored barn find. Engine has been rebuilt, but otherwise it's pretty ratty. I love to hear the thing motoring by.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:38 PM (OdK9v)

292 We do it better.
Only glitch is that mid flight it stops to install an update.
Posted by: Microsoft Windows Jetpack Division

And then Clippy pops up:

"It looks like you're plunging to your certain death. Need help?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:37 PM (eMKNe)

And then Cortanna pops up and suggests searching for attorneys that specialize in wills and estate planning.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 25, 2017 11:39 PM (m9X4Y)

293
Dogs fed their meat and buttermilk and put up for the evening.

How can you have your buttermilk if you don't eat your meat?

Posted by: Pink Floyd at June 25, 2017 11:40 PM (IqV8l)

294 After Apple invents the iJetpack, Siri will be there to lecture you when things go wrong.

iJetpack user: "Siri, help me!!! Something's wrong!! I'm falling fast!!"

Siri: "If you had bothered to read the manual, it clearly indicated that the weight limit for your model of iJetpack is 200 pounds. You are 210 pounds. Tell your troubles to someone else, fatty."

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (eMKNe)

295 >> A species of fluffer.


Fluffer is a Family not a Species.

They're a type of Soft-Mouthed Weasel.

Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (eNC1o)

296 Those dogs are gonna become cow-killers. Mark my words.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (OdK9v)

297 Hey Y. Just emailed you back about Vegas.
And also booknlass. You here? Emailed you back too. Someone tell her if I have to get outta here and she isn't here

Posted by: L, Elle at June 25, 2017 11:43 PM (Rsi2C)

298 Skandia, LOL. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:43 PM (eMKNe)

299 Stevie: Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.
--------------------------------

That's helpful like...

Hall of Fame Inductee: If you work and practice hard you can be here someday.

Politician: If you study hard you might not end up in Iraq.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 25, 2017 11:43 PM (OmhcY)

300 Hey Y. Just emailed you back about Vegas.
And also booknlass. You here? Emailed you back too. Someone tell her if I have to get outta here and she isn't here
Posted by: L, Elle at June



Ok, thanks.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 11:46 PM (0wem/)

301 >>>Most impactful inventions:

Colorado --- The Tampon
Dr. Earle Haas

I wonder if all the white male-hating feminists realize that a white male invented the tampon for them.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (7A4qQ)

302 After Apple invents the iJetpack
--------------------
If I am not mistaken, Tim Cook has already perfected the iPackFudge

Posted by: RioBravo at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (OmhcY)

303 Lots of luzs to be had whenever one sees a variation of "Queers for Palestine". Unless you're homosexual and have to live a secret live in "Palestine".

ALTERNATIVE CHICAGO PRIDE EVENT 'INCLUSIVE' TO ALL, EXCEPT JEWS

http://tinyurl.com/y87tvkfh

Posted by: Thrawn at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (E/ibL)

304 >>I wonder if all the white male-hating feminists realize that a white male invented the tampon for them.


It was probably was his wife's idea to add the string, though.

Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (eNC1o)

305 Picture worthy of a thousand snorts: Canada's PM Justin Trudeau wears Ramadan-themed socks to "church" service before Gay Pride parade:

https://twitter.com/cselley/status/879037625457356801/photo/1

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (XUcIQ)

306 >>>After Apple invents the iJetpack, Siri will be there to lecture you when things go wrong.



iJetpack user: "Siri, help me!!! Something's wrong!! I'm falling fast!!"



Siri: "If you had bothered to read the manual, it clearly indicated
that the weight limit for your model of iJetpack is 200 pounds. You are
210 pounds. Tell your troubles to someone else, fatty."

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (eMKNe)<<<

And we removed the connection port that you used to plug the flight controls into. They didn't fit the design aesthetic, and the new wireless ones are just as good. And if you lose them, please feel free to spend another 160 dollars for another set.

Posted by: Apple iJetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:48 PM (rxW5j)

307 294 After Apple invents the iJetpack, Siri will be there to lecture you when things go wrong.

iJetpack user: "Siri, help me!!! Something's wrong!! I'm falling fast!!"

Siri: "If you had bothered to read the manual, it clearly indicated that the weight limit for your model of iJetpack is 200 pounds. You are 210 pounds. Tell your troubles to someone else, fatty."
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (eMKNe)


I don't understand that question.

Posted by: Alexa at June 25, 2017 11:48 PM (1JnAL)

308

You know what I invented?

Posted by: Earl of Douchebag at June 25, 2017 11:50 PM (8O3HH)

309 Hi! What did I miss?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 25, 2017 11:51 PM (mvenn)

310 306 >>>After Apple invents the iJetpack, Siri will be there to lecture you when things go wrong.



iJetpack user: "Siri, help me!!! Something's wrong!! I'm falling fast!!"



Siri: "If you had bothered to read the manual, it clearly indicated
that the weight limit for your model of iJetpack is 200 pounds. You are
210 pounds. Tell your troubles to someone else, fatty."

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:41 PM (eMKNe)

And we removed the connection port that you used to plug the flight controls into. They didn't fit the design aesthetic, and the new wireless ones are just as good. And if you lose them, please feel free to spend another 160 dollars for another set.
Posted by: Apple iJetpack Division at June 25, 2017 11:48 PM (rxW5j)


Screw all of you. We're telling Obama on all of you!!!!!

Posted by: Google at June 25, 2017 11:51 PM (1JnAL)

311 ALTERNATIVE CHICAGO PRIDE EVENT 'INCLUSIVE' TO ALL, EXCEPT JEWS

http://tinyurl.com/y87tvkfh

Posted by: Thrawn at June 25, 2017 11:47 PM (E/ibL)


*Sheds tear of joy*

I am so proud!

Posted by: Ernst Röhm at June 25, 2017 11:51 PM (vBeA5)

312 Yup everybody. Then there's Google's jetpack.

It works great... until it doesn't, when it drops you 3,000 feet to your demise.

Then it automatically sells and transmits all of your sensitive financial and personal information to identity thieves in Russia.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 11:54 PM (eMKNe)

313 The SC case is not as Mis Hum presented it, at least according to some article I read -- The land and cabin were ONE parcel, and they wanted to subdivide it to sell off the extra land and use those proceeds for cabin repairs.

And the county said No to splitting the parcel. And the libs plus Kennedy on the SC said that was up to the county.

Imho, the states and the feds have far too much say as to what you can do with your land, but that's just me.

And I'm really hoping the rumors of Kennedy goin' bye-bye are true.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 25, 2017 11:54 PM (6jaju)

314 That's a fine reputation you have there, Justice Kennedy. Hate to see it be destroyed if you retire before we tell you to.

Posted by: Deep State at June 25, 2017 11:55 PM (qYCgM)

315 say, how are you doing, because I am a potato.


https://youtu.be/oNjPHcIzQkM

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 11:57 PM (mkDpn)

316 You know what I invented?
Posted by: Earl of Douchebag


The scissor jack?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 12:03 AM (IcT7t)

317
Replace Kennedy with Kennedy from FBN.

Now that Dems shot their wad on Gorsuch, Trump ought to be able to get Pryor through. Or an even more right winger.

Wait, I forgot. Susan Collins. Lisa "Box of Rocks" Murkowski. ANd Rand Paul might well decide to be a dick.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 26, 2017 12:05 AM (8O3HH)

318 Geeze the weather is great here. Clear, low 50's tonight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:08 AM (OdK9v)

319 So I found myself on the elevator with her and asked where the
Maserati was. She has decided to have it painted yellow. Brand new
factory fresh Maserati and she is having it painted. Sigh.
---
i've just started the process of buying a 1961 Weatherby FN action rifle...

one reason it was within my price range is that, somewhere back in time Bubba the Gun Smite replaced the original stock with a thumb hole one.

at least he had the good sense to dye the fore-end black, to replicate the original ebony wood, but really?

i'm currently in search of a period correct stock.

either way, i have a South Gate Weatherby in 300 Weatherby.

now, how to afford ammo?


Posted by: redc1c4 at June 26, 2017 12:08 AM (qeqxZ)

320 So some white guy invented tampons....big deal.
I wonder who invented the "menstral cup"?

Oh, bluebell...you cracked me up with this -BarleyClown'sBilbo

Posted by: lin-duh fell at June 26, 2017 12:09 AM (kufk0)

321 the cookbook stuff in the sidebar is getting hilarious.

CBD, no doubt

Posted by: concrete girl at June 26, 2017 12:10 AM (EqvVS)

322 Geeze the weather is great here. Clear, low 50's tonight.

We're sitting at about 103 right now, hoping to get as low as 86 overnight.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 12:11 AM (IcT7t)

323 166
Customer is someone who buys goods and services.

A client is one who engages the services of a professional.

That is the Webster distinction but there is some overlap.

Business who call their customers clients are trying to jazz it up and make their customers think they are more special.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (8O3HH)

++++

Businesses whose customers are other businesses (b2b) tend to call those other businesses "clients".

You may be right about them wanting to make them feel special. After all, they aren't just run of the mill regular customers, they too are in business!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 12:12 AM (WzbqD)

324 Geeze the weather is great here. Clear, low 50's tonight.

We're sitting at about 103 right now, hoping to get as low as 86 overnight.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
-----------

Do not recall...you're out west?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:13 AM (OdK9v)

325 A fucking fire hydrant.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 09:55 PM (89T5c)

A lot of those entries on that list are weird, and read like they were written by foreigner with a poor command of English. A fire hydrant "transports" water? More like the water main "transports" the water, but the hydrant dispenses it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:13 AM (XUcIQ)

326 if our customers would just go away and leave us alone, we could get some w*rk done.


Posted by: redc1c4 at June 26, 2017 12:15 AM (qeqxZ)

327 A fucking fire hydrant.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
-----------

Hey, the dogs in my neighborhood think it was a hell of an invention.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:15 AM (OdK9v)

328 >>>Wait, I forgot. Susan Collins. Lisa "Box of Rocks" Murkowski. ANd Rand Paul might well decide to be a dick.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 26, 2017 12:05 AM (8O3HH)<<<

Hey, hey, hey. You forgetting someone?!

Posted by: Juan McCain at June 26, 2017 12:16 AM (rxW5j)

329 Pryor got burned with coke, and Jackson got burned with Pepsi!

Posted by: just the punchline at June 26, 2017 12:17 AM (nlbfN)

330 Do not recall...you're out west?

Phoenix metro. It's kind of like Death Valley, but without the charm.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 12:17 AM (IcT7t)

331 it was 111 at the Burbank Air Port just before 1500 local.

then something broke, and there was a breeze and a significant drop in temp...

by 1700, in was 82, dropping and breezy.

not cool now, but tolerable.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 26, 2017 12:19 AM (qeqxZ)

332

I wish the damned Army would tell time like everyone else.

Posted by: Col. Henry Blake at June 26, 2017 12:21 AM (8O3HH)

333 Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 26, 2017 12:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

334 Is that AOPs backyard

Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2017 12:25 AM (9TU00)

335 I cleaned the potty today. I hadn't heard I needed to learn Spanish first

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 26, 2017 12:26 AM (6FqZa)

336 the cookbook stuff in the sidebar is getting hilarious.



CBD, no doubt

Posted by: concrete girl at June 26, 2017 12:10 AM (EqvVS)
Why . . . that dirty rat!!!

Posted by: Peaches at June 26, 2017 12:27 AM (EgOr3)

337 Is that top pic AOP's spare parts bin?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 25, 2017 10:53 PM (IcT7t)

I'm not a ford guy, but that could be a farm in Alberta, going by the poplar shelter belt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:30 AM (XUcIQ)

338 Peruvia kicked Argentia's ass too right after it beat Gernamy in '76.

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at June 26, 2017 12:31 AM (nlbfN)

339 I cleaned the potty today. I hadn't heard I needed to learn Spanish first

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 26, 2017 12:26 AM (6FqZa



Por que se mean en el piso, no saben porque hay una taza?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2017 12:33 AM (mkDpn)

340 **scans room for AOP**

Hmm. Nope, not here.

Anybody else ever have to reinstall the trunk torsion bars/springs into an '87(ish) Buick GN or G-body?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at June 25, 2017 11:04 PM (rxW5j)

I have installed trunk torsion springs on some cars, but not on any of those. Check Youtube.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:34 AM (XUcIQ)

341 I'm not a ford guy, but that could be a farm in Alberta, going by the poplar shelter belt.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------

Are there unpoplar shelter belts?
The question had to be asked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:36 AM (OdK9v)

342 >>>I have installed trunk torsion springs on some cars, but not on any of those. Check Youtube.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:34 AM (XUcIQ)<<<

Yeah. There's one on there for G-bodies where the guy custom made an install tool out of a piece of pipe. Have to see if we can whip up something like that to work.

Thanks.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at June 26, 2017 12:37 AM (rxW5j)

343 Would it not be poetic justice to see Bernie in orange instead of crooked Hillary?

First the Gods make mad those whom they would destroy.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2017 12:38 AM (sC1Nc)

344 The photo IS kind of what I think AOP's west 40 might look like.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 11:22 PM (OdK9v)

You are not far off the mark.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:38 AM (XUcIQ)

345 The G-body torsion springs. Brute force:

http://tinyurl.com/yd4avwkh

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:39 AM (OdK9v)

346 Are there unpoplar shelter belts?
The question had to be asked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2017 12:36 AM (OdK9v)

My shelter belt is caragana and box elder. And I was trimming it in a few spots today. Lopping off limbs that had fallen over, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 12:47 AM (XUcIQ)

347 Finally home...yeah!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at June 26, 2017 12:52 AM (mMeIQ)

348
Are there unpoplar shelter belts?

The one with the onion.

Posted by: Abe Simpson at June 26, 2017 01:04 AM (IqV8l)

349 I live in California, what' you call the Midwest has always baffled me, I call it it back east.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 26, 2017 01:09 AM (6Ll1u)

350 I am shocked that the COC is inanely and pathetically mind numbingly wrong about something.

Posted by: John Marston at June 26, 2017 01:12 AM (SkuXa)

351 The COC is known for delivering unwise advice

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 26, 2017 01:15 AM (6FqZa)

352 Wouldn't it be ironic if Crazy Bernie died in a prison infirmary.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2017 01:19 AM (sC1Nc)

353 Well, I am mighty tired tonight. Going to hit the sack. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2017 01:29 AM (XUcIQ)

354 Got a 911 call re: howling drunk in the woods. Again.

Posted by: Chappaqua PD at June 26, 2017 01:39 AM (bc2Lc)

355 Pixy is probably in a good mood now. Best to kindly ask for anything now while you can...

Posted by: The Magical Hat at June 26, 2017 01:40 AM (vBeA5)

356 Posted by: Chappaqua PD at June 26, 2017 01:39 AM (bc2Lc)

Shhh!!

I'm chasing Leo.

Posted by: Rapey Bear at June 26, 2017 01:40 AM (sf2BM)

357 Wouldn't it be ironic if Crazy Bernie died in a prison infirmary.
Posted by: torabora


Can Bernie himself really be charged with anything? I think it's mainly about his wife committing fraud when she was administrator of some college..

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 01:49 AM (xAvrH)

358 If Michael Jackson's prosthetic nose could be taken from his grave, I wonder how much it would sell for on ebay.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 02:00 AM (xAvrH)

359 Wouldn't it be ironic if Crazy Bernie died in a prison infirmary. Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2017 01:19 AM (sC1Nc)

Once again put up in someone else's house.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 26, 2017 02:10 AM (VdICR)

360 Super hot and delicious but my whole body feels like it is on fire from the cutting and cooking. That was almost three hours ago and my hands are still burning. Not worth the pain.
Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2017 11:31 PM (NbRJx)



Tomorrow, when your fingernails feel like they have been smashed with a hammer, you will realize that the pain has only just begun. (No need to mention....)

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 26, 2017 02:19 AM (lIZQs)

361 ALTERNATIVE CHICAGO PRIDE EVENT 'INCLUSIVE' TO ALL, EXCEPT JEWS

http://tinyurl.com/y87tvkfh

Posted by: Thrawn


More of the left devouring itself. Pass the popcorn.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 02:19 AM (xAvrH)

362 Sam the K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px4OYPxhQGk

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 26, 2017 02:29 AM (5wiY1)

363 Quiet night.

Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:37 AM (cAnNx)

364
363 Quiet night.

Too quiet...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 02:42 AM (4DCSq)

365 Okay, here's an argument for NY BBQ over TX BBQ -- (DM)

A late night barbecue party in a Harlem park turned violent when seven people were shot Saturday night. Officers were called to a large crowd at a barbecue in Morningside Park.

If you prefer bullets flyin' at your BBQs, NY >> TX

****************

There's another article at DM where an American has been charged with scamming 3 Nigerians on green cards for around $650k.

Poetic justice by the barrel.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2017 02:43 AM (6jaju)

366 357 Wouldn't it be ironic if Crazy Bernie died in a prison infirmary.
Posted by: torabora

Can Bernie himself really be charged with anything? I think it's mainly about his wife committing fraud when she was administrator of some college..
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 01:49 AM (xAvrH)
*************
Looks like accusations Bernie practiced influence peddling. As in you better give my woman her big fat loan if you don't want the bank examiners crawling up your ass. Yeah, I can see him practicing to be a dictator of the proletariat.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2017 02:44 AM (RrJF7)

367 364
363 Quiet night.

Too quiet...
Posted by: Spun and Murky




There is a Rick & Morty marathon on Cartoon Network.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 26, 2017 02:45 AM (pY+s4)

368 There is a Rick Morty marathon on Cartoon Network.

Doesn't sound like anything for the spank bank.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:46 AM (IcT7t)

369 368 There is a Rick Morty marathon on Cartoon Network.

Doesn't sound like anything for the spank bank.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:46 AM (IcT7t



Let's not be hasty here.

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at June 26, 2017 02:49 AM (cAnNx)

370
There is a Rick & Morty marathon on Cartoon Network.

Posted by: Puddleglum


Don't know what Rick & Morty is, but switched over.

Conditional thanks!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 02:51 AM (4DCSq)

371 Too quiet...

Posted by: Spun and Murky

There is a Rick & Morty marathon on Cartoon Network.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 26, 2017 02:45 AM (pY+s4)


Also the finale of Little Witch Academia, a favorite of Pixy.

Posted by: Not-so-little Hat Academia at June 26, 2017 02:53 AM (vBeA5)

372 Nat Geo channel has Afghani war footage live recorded during fire fights. Pretty interesting, if you have never been in a fire fight.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 26, 2017 02:55 AM (lIZQs)

373
Hah! Double middle finger salutes in the future.

How have I missed this?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 02:59 AM (4DCSq)

374
Also the finale of Little Witch Academia, a favorite of Pixy.

And where might I find that, Hat?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 03:05 AM (4DCSq)

375 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 03:05 AM (IcT7t)

376 Also, a mini South Park marathon on Comedy Channel. The downside to that are the unwatchable commercials for the other shows on that network. I think South Park is the only thing keeping the network alive.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 26, 2017 03:09 AM (pY+s4)

377
Night, BB.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 03:10 AM (4DCSq)

378
Hundreds of channels available on my Dish, but I only regularly watch maybe a dozen.

Time to seriously look at Sling...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 03:16 AM (4DCSq)

379 Also the finale of Little Witch Academia, a favorite of Pixy.

And where might I find that, Hat?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 03:05 AM (4DCSq)


http://asenshi.moe

Posted by: The Triskelian Hat at June 26, 2017 03:23 AM (vBeA5)

380 I've got a couple of recipes that I totes invented, and need to post to the Cookbook; hopefully I will git er dun.

I've had an exceedingly hectic last 3 weeks; my post counts here will back this up, though tonite's excuse is excessive CH3-CH2OH consumption.

We've had Biblical levels of rain here on the MS Coast for the last 40 days, and my Ark is now where's near ready.

This week's tourist event was Scrapin' The Coast, where a bunch of low ridin' autos come down to show they can't afford to run over a pebble in the roads. Budddn buddnn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2017 03:29 AM (6jaju)

381
http://asenshi.moe

Posted by: The Triskelian Hat



I'm still, at my enfeebled age, expanding my horizons.

Anime, thus far, befuddles me.

Thanks?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 03:42 AM (4DCSq)

382
Swing shift beckons from beyond a respite of blessed unconsciousness.

Good night, Bunky. Good night, Onyx. Good night, my sweet, sweet Gretchen...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 04:01 AM (4DCSq)

383 Just passing by. Interesting. I wonder why we ask little kids what they want to be when they grow up. Yes, the answers are interesting and sometimes fun for both the kid and the person asking. It's just a little weird. Have a good night .

Posted by: gracepc at June 26, 2017 04:08 AM (OU4q6)

384 Customer is someone who buys goods and services.

A client is one who engages the services of a professional.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 10:24 PM (8O3HH)


Hookers have customers; escorts have clients.

Posted by: RickZ at June 26, 2017 04:19 AM (OFItL)

385 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2017 04:20 AM (Ot7+c)

386
Hey, Skip.

I really enjoyed the Baku race yesterday.

It was almost like a NASCAR race!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 26, 2017 04:29 AM (4DCSq)

387 Just passing by. Interesting. I wonder why we ask little kids what they want to be when they grow up. Yes, the answers are interesting and sometimes fun for both the kid and the person asking. It's just a little weird. Have a good night .

Posted by: gracepc


We do it so that we know if we should start giving them hormone therapy and puberty blockers.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 26, 2017 04:34 AM (xAvrH)

C'est La Vie (MJ)

Our civic debate and the intellectualism surrounding it has become boring. We all know the prism through which Charles Blow (racism), Thomas Friedman (globalism), or any left leaning publication will present its view. Everything the Left does is predictable.

The Right is oftentimes similarly rote, although there exists a stronger willingness to debate an issue beyond the merely emotional. It's more about the construct than the destruct; the depth and breadth.

Whereas speech is the hallmark of the Right, it is anathema to the Left. Their adherence to a limited cadre of acceptable words has led directly to their stunted and sheltered views.

I believe this unwillingness for honest diagnosis is leading to a growing, if not already fatal wound in Europe; the pinnacle of Leftism.

Two hours after I got to my hotel, word came of a terror attack three blocks away, on the Champs Élysées. I asked the woman at the desk for directions and she said, in low and measured terms, “I’m sorry madame, there has been a terrorist occurrence. You should not go there.” I said “Yes, I’d like to go see it.” She brightened: “In that case, go left, left, then final left!”

Soon I was in a small crowd being held back by a handful of police. They protested: My work is there. I must go there. I walked for a few blocks, to a small park off the Champs. Police had put up police tape, but as soon as they turned away people ducked under it and continued on their way.

No one in the crowd—workers in the shops, mothers with children, tourists—seemed the least put out or concerned, never mind scared, which they were not.

Such is life, until it isn't.

As I lingered over dessert. A colleague emailed an alert from a private security firm: Continue to avoid the vicinity of Champs Élysées and Avenue Montaigne. I replied: “I am literally on Avenue Montaigne and nothing is happening here but bitchy gossip in the cafe.”

“At least you’re having a very French experience then,” my colleague replied.

I was. Forty-eight hours later, en route to England, I saw the front page of the Times of London: A suspected terrorist had been shot and killed by soldiers in a Brussels railway station. He had attempted to detonate an explosive vest or belt. The story was illustrated with a photo of a handsome young passerby who’d been staring at his phone and suddenly turned toward a flash of light behind him: the late terrorist.

Nothing feels different, all looks the same, no one is letting the discomfort get in their way, but in Europe, terrorism is the new normal.

Decollage--It's all coming apart, but try not to make a fuss. That would be sooo pedestrian.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 In Western Europe, terrorism is like the weather.

There is obviously nothing you can do about, so you just go about your business and ignore it.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)

2
Move along. Nothing to see here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NNOrp_83RU

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (4DEJp)

3
Yes, it's just like the Black Plague.

Oh well.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (4DEJp)

4 I hate the new normal...

Posted by: Oedipus at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (Mv/vL)

5 Also, the thought of fighting back is so... barbaric. Uncivilized even.

Only criminals and Americans have guns.



Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (aT+Bx)

6
I guess the stupid point is: This is cost of the greatness of Europe. They have their good days and they have their bad days, but most days are good, so it's life is still nice in good ol' Europe. Why complain?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:45 PM (4DEJp)

7
We live in such Stupid Times with such Stupid Leaders, yes, this is indeed the New Normal.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:46 PM (4DEJp)

8 There and here it's insanity. Maybe it's the soy.
Do the French eat soy much?

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 06:47 PM (vlVF/)

9 You know, I can almost understand the generational Nazi guilt cr@p and the self-flagallation via Islam, but what about the nations that were Allies?

WTF are they feeling "guilty" about? Why are they punishing themselves with Islam?

Or is it just that "courage" and "intelligence" and the "survival instinct" have disappeared from their collective gene pools?

/I'm sure you'll feel very superior when you hold the party that celebrates your granddaughters FGM surgery. And when your first grandson dies in a suicide bombing. So trendy! So chic!

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:48 PM (aT+Bx)

10
Speaking of Europe, some dummy from Gernamy listed a bunch of little Generac generators for $30 each on ebay. Obviously a mistake, should be around $350.

Buyers are snatching them up. I suspect the sales will be canceled, tho.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:48 PM (4DEJp)

11 Only criminals and Americans have guns.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (aT+Bx)



...and the cannons red glare...bombs bursting in air

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (vlVF/)

12 At least some of us got to see Europe when it was reasonably normal, where we could absorb the traditional good it contained - and benefit from the experience - before the PC sickness engulfed the place.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (TTKYk)

13
Funny thing about getting your arm or leg blown off or getting killed by muslim animals in your civilized city: It really doesn't feel "real" until it happens to YOU or someone YOU LOVE, I guess.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:50 PM (4DEJp)

14 Seems a good place to re-link Steyn's interview with DOuglas Murray.

https://youtu.be/1iAKfHntZMw

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 06:50 PM (GsAUU)

15 If you care nothing for you town, region, or country then you are spiritually a vagrant while geographically settled.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (VdICR)

16 Hey Open Blogger, find a way to get me to the Peggy Noonan piece without a pay wall blocking the way!

It's annoying when you guys do this.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (WpPbD)

17 Terrorism just doesn't break the ennui.

L'ennui!!!

Posted by: Pretentious Frog Hipster at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (GsAUU)

18 This is cost of the greatness of Europe.


What is the greatness of Europe? Has it really accomplished anything since the 19th century?

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (vlVF/)

19 ...and the cannons red glare...bombs bursting in air
--

America is awesome. We rigorously celebrate kicking out the Brits every year.

And we have a quarter that has a picture of "The British Surrender."

Because nothing says "yeah, we're better than you" than putting evidence of YOUR SURRENDER on OUR money.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:52 PM (aT+Bx)

20 Reminds me of the uncomplaining passenger stuck in the closing doors of the metro rail in Terry Gillian's "Brazil": he's going to die, but there's no point making a fuss about it...

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (clM3U)

21
But I guess it's now cool or chic to live with terrorism.

You know how the Fake News NYT invented "Funemployment" for obama's failed policies?

Maybe it's time to introduce Europe and America to the phrase "Terrificism!" because of all the opportunities terrorism creates for the community! jobs, innovation, a chance for the community to "come together," all that bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (4DEJp)

22 As our leaders have been stating (peace be upon them, Not)
we are acceptable losses to their visions of a world they can demand fidelity to from us.

eggs and omelets peoples.
now accept it, and if your daughter, father, mother, sister dies. well they are now matyers to their cause, so shut up and smile.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (v12G8)

23 1 In Western Europe, terrorism is like the weather.

There is obviously nothing you can do about, so you just go about your business and ignore it.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)


It's like rape.

https://youtu.be/OY3mWJ1Cd0Y

Posted by: Clayton Williams at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

24
What?

Me worry?

Posted by: Alfred E. Newman at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (m9X4Y)

25
What is the greatness of Europe?

Europe is a shithole, if you ask me. But those shit-heads in that shit-hole think it's great -- much like our New York City.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (4DEJp)

26 who gets killed by Terrorism?
rarely you or I, it's other people so it's ok.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (v12G8)

27 You survive rape. You may even be able to terminate the rapist. You do not survive terrorism.
Unless you kill it first.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (vlVF/)

28 Funny thing about getting your arm or leg blown off or getting killed by muslim animals in your civilized city: It really doesn't feel "real" until it happens to YOU or someone YOU LOVE, I guess.
---
Yeah, not so much.

An EU minister in Germany had his daughter raped and killed by he was still totes for open immigration.

So really, all of this "life is sacred" stuff only applies to minorities.

There are obivusly enough whites in Europe. A bunch can be killed off without causing a problem.

/what will happen when there are significantly more people on the dole than there are working? Will the EU just crank up the printing press and deny citizens the ability to leave?

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (aT+Bx)

29 Living in the movie Brazil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (IqV8l)

30 So really, all of this "life is sacred" stuff only applies to minorities.


Those fools, the Christians and Jews.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (vlVF/)

31 At least the English (who IMHO deserve the tightwad stereotype that devolves on their Scots neighbors) will likely get mean when they get the demand to pay jizya. So I hope.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (clM3U)

32 Everyone has to go sometime. Why prolong the agony?

Posted by: Guy who just doesn't give a shit at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (BO/km)

33
Europe can stew in it's own juices regarding terrorism.

WE are Americans, living in the most exceptional country on the planet.

Terrorism will never be accepted as the norm, to be meekly endured.

That isn't in our psyche.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM (S/hVx)

34 At least the English (who IMHO deserve the tightwad stereotype that devolves on their Scots neighbors) will likely get mean when they get the demand to pay jizya. So I hope.
---

As far as I can tell, the majority of Muslims in Europe don't work.

Who is paying for them not to work?

The tax dollars of working Europeans.

So really, aren't they already paying jizya to their muslim overlords in the form of welfare and housing?

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:01 PM (aT+Bx)

35 So really, aren't they already paying jizya to their muslim overlords in the form of welfare and housing?
Posted by: shibumi


Bingo!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (S6Pax)

36 Over at JihadWatch, the head of the swedish national police is begging for help-- there are now 55 no go zones, and he says they are on the verge of civil war.

That's what happens when you encourage wolves to join your flock of sheep.

/sorry, but not sorry at all.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (aT+Bx)

37
Over at JihadWatch, the head of the swedish national police is begging for help-- there are now 55 no go zones, and he says they are on the verge of civil war.

Nah, there is no such thing as a no go zone. It is a right wing fantasy. That's what I heard on TV anyway.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (IqV8l)

38 What is the greatnesdwelles of Europe?
Europe is a shithole, if you ask me. But those shit-heads in that shit-hole think it's great -- much like our New York City.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (4DEJp)

Yup...shit holers always boast about how their shit holes are great but never seem to stay there.
Non-shit holers keep our mouths shut so as to avoid attracting the shit holers.
But sooner or later, in true shit holer fashion, the shit holers show up and the process of creating a new shit hole begins anew.

The circle of life.




Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (5VlCp)

39 @34 racist

But it's not actually called jizya yet. They do care about the "rule of law" and suchlike. That might just rescue them.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (clM3U)

40
Shit-hole dwellers are like a virus -- they live to SPREAD their shit-hole area.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:07 PM (4DEJp)

41 So far the their preferred solution of importing more barbarians does not seem to be working so what else can they do but pretend nothing is happening?

Posted by: Thatch at June 25, 2017 07:07 PM (GxTZq)

42
Europe is a shithole, if you ask me. But those shit-heads in that shit-hole think it's great -- much like our New York City.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


But can you find Eritrean cuisine at 3AM in flyover land?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 07:08 PM (IqV8l)

43
What the hell is Latrine Cuisine?

Never mind, I don't wanna know.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:08 PM (4DEJp)

44 42
Europe is a shithole, if you ask me. But those shit-heads in that shit-hole think it's great -- much like our New York City.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

But can you find Eritrean cuisine at 3AM in flyover land?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 07:08 PM (IqV8l)

We have Waffle Houses.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 07:09 PM (IDPbH)

45 Remember, I'm just talking about the English here. The Irish should also be ok, not because they worry about the cash,what'll piss them off is the peremptoriness of the demand.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at June 25, 2017 07:09 PM (clM3U)

46 That's what happens when you encourage wolves to join your flock of sheep.

/sorry, but not sorry at all.

Posted by: shibumi

Sweden is lost. France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany are not too far behind.
Like dominoes, they will all start to fall, one after another.

Likely it's almost too late for "Great Britain", too.

"Terrorism will never be accepted as the norm, to be meekly endured.

That isn't in our psyche."
Posted by: irongrampa

But it's really not terrorism. Terrorism is just a tactic.
It's an unwillingness to recognize that something is worth defending. It's been the betrayal of the "intellectuals", who have been telling us how wrong and flawed we are.
It's surrender. It's capitulation to barbarians.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:10 PM (S6Pax)

47 Food or The Scorpion? I think I'll go back downsite.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:10 PM (LTHVh)

48 The non-noble savage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 07:11 PM (IqV8l)

49 No one in the crowd-workers in the shops, mother with children, tourists, seemed the least put out or concerned, never mind scared, which they were not.

Is this type of adaption hardwired in our genes? I hike. A lot. I see myriad instances of places where deer travel that are natural ambush spots. The scattered bones serve to codify the situation. Yet there will always be fresh tracks right through the area. No effort is made to travel in the open where there is less danger.

As far as human-specific genetics, did the individualists in Europe tend to migrate to the USA? If so, did that make Europe more willing to live "under the yoke"? Europeans have long demonstrated more ability to adjust with little resistance to tyranny unless led by You Know Who. The EU is certainly demonstrating that now.

Or am I just drunk on this surprising good 2012 Twisted Merlot at $9.49 a bottle from a store where prices are high?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:14 PM (3myMJ)

50 Terrorism will never be accepted as the norm, to be meekly endured.

That isn't in our psyche.


Boston Strong!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:15 PM (LTHVh)

51 @49 when English people see $9.49 equaling $7+jizya tax, that's when they'll start revolting.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at June 25, 2017 07:16 PM (clM3U)

52 What a brilliant idea by the leaders of European countries to throw open their countries to a bunch of free loaders who are even bigger free loaders than their native born and on top of being free loaders they also rape and murder the local populace. I'm sure there is an upside in there somewhere for those countries

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:16 PM (auHtY)

53 "...he says they are on the verge of civil war."

That's actually great news!

It means Sweden has a chance of some sort, be it poor or good.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:16 PM (3myMJ)

54 >But it's not actually called jizya yet.

This "jizya" of which you speak, is that some form of Mooslim bukake? Perhaps involving a goat?

Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:17 PM (8O3HH)

55 54 >But it's not actually called jizya yet.

This "jizya" of which you speak, is that some form of Mooslim bukake? Perhaps involving a goat?
Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:17 PM (8O3HH)

Wrist iccle

Dick bicycle

Posted by: Ariana Grande at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (GsAUU)

56
Anyone ever fix a crack in a plastic radiator?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (4DEJp)

57 Well, he's gone, but it was a nice flash of light. I shall tweet about it...

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (hBig8)

58 How big Sooth?

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:20 PM (BO/km)

59 What is the greatness of Europe?

-----------------------------------


The Renaissance? The Enlightenment? The Industrial Revolution? Pretty much western civilization?


OK, you can keep Post Modernism.

Posted by: Javems at June 25, 2017 07:20 PM (yOqwj)

60 There are lots of problems, but today might have been the most perfect weather day, and its the mmost gorgeous evening

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (Ot7+c)

61 I think you are correct Bossy.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (CNHr1)

62 For the man who has everything: FN303 Less Lethal Launcher http://bit.ly/2tbnedK

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (LTHVh)

63
About 2" long crack.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (4DEJp)

64 Anyone ever fix a crack in a plastic radiator?

You mean the header? Yes, by buying another one.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (hBig8)

65 As far as human-specific genetics, did the individualists in Europe tend to migrate to the USA?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:14 PM (3myMJ)


That's half the answer to Europe's current 'pajama boy' problem. The other half of that equation is WWI and II then took out the rest of the best and the brightest.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (OFItL)

66 Agreed, but it's a shithole filled with tremendous historical artifacts that are easily accessed.

It should be saved, again. I don't know if it will happen, but it should be saved.

It's more important that Global Wanking.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (3myMJ)

67 *Anyone ever fix a crack in a plastic radiator?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (4DEJp)*

When the plastic parts break, time for a new radiator.

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (sNYFR)

68 Bars Leak if it's not too big.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (BO/km)

69 >>About 2" long crack.

Seems small.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (/Nite)

70 2" you need a radiator.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (BO/km)

71 They make plastic radiators? Are we talking cars or homes? Sorry, those foodies made me drink extra beers . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (EgOr3)

72 The Human Animal can get used to really rather strange things.

We have 40 murders a day in this country. This vastly overshadows the death rate from terrorism.

Between 201,000, and 400,000 per year die in hospitals due to preventable circumstances...

We loose about 35,000 per year in automobile wrecks...

These are just considered a normal part of life... why do you think people will freak out about terrorism? Which still has a much lower body count...

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (NgKpN)

73 WWI and II then took out the rest of the best and the brightest.
Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:22 PM (OFItL)

Hmmm...

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (3myMJ)

74 Most car radiators are partly plastic nowadays.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:24 PM (BO/km)

75
2" you need a radiator.

Hairline crack, man!

oh crud, this is a 15 yr old Sentra that isn't worth buying new anything for

That "plastic weld" won't work?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:25 PM (4DEJp)

76 My first and second thoughts on hearing about the awful Gallagher Tower fire in London was "did some backlash just happen" Turned out it was just the consequences of socialism. Council housing I believe so the 'tenants', is it correct to say tenant if they are not paying rent? complained, but they weren't going to give up their free abode to pay out of their own pockets for a safer, better place to live and since the 'council' were not living their they were not going to worry over much about safety issues.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (8qFZP)

77 "Anyone ever fix a crack in a plastic radiator? "

Several layers of duct tape.

Replace every 6 miles.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (3myMJ)

78
Yeah, the "tank" parts of the radiators are now plastic, but the cooling fins are still aluminum.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (4DEJp)

79 Posted by: Ariana Grande at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (GsAUU)

Ariana, I saw the perfect product for you the other day. The Blow Job Bib. See Amazon.

Also, a must have for Sheppie Smith.

Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (8O3HH)

80 *They make plastic radiators? Are we talking cars or homes? Sorry, those foodies made me drink extra beers . . .
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (EgOr3)*

The upper and lower parts of radiators are now plastic in most cars.

The heat transfer zone is steel.

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (sNYFR)

81 >>Anyone ever fix a crack in a plastic radiator?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

JB RadiatorWeld works.
http://tinyurl.com/y8gzvcuc

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (/Nite)

82 Hairline crack, man!

Try the BarsLeak, maybe two. It's not expensive.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (LTHVh)

83 *sniffs haughtily*

Yes, but we have our sidewalk cafes and publicly-funded year-round orchestras and opera companies. We have a long history and are wiser than you silly, barbaric obese Americans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 07:27 PM (6FRey)

84 That "plastic weld" won't work?

Try it and report back, since you've already decided not to replace it.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 07:27 PM (hBig8)

85 Multiculturalism has a built in cultural cost modifier in the same way war has collateral / kinetic casualty damage ratios. As long as the ratio doesn't excced X, then people in general simply won't complain.

And a broader western euro guilt very much like 'perfidious albion' but 'perfidious post-colonials' layered with white guilt.

Well, that's about as far as I can get into their heads on this stuff, anyhow.

Posted by: 13times at June 25, 2017 07:27 PM (WHVu+)

86
Car is not mine. Also needs a strut bearing mount. When you do stuff like this, you do it in pairs and do the whole struts. But for this car...what's the point.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:28 PM (4DEJp)

87 79 Posted by: Ariana Grande at June 25, 2017 07:19 PM (GsAUU)

Ariana, I saw the perfect product for you the other day. The Blow Job Bib. See Amazon.

Also, a must have for Sheppie Smith.
Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (8O3HH)

I gave it a five-star review.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 25, 2017 07:28 PM (GsAUU)

88 i'm trying tol be positive and believe Europe wants to go in the quiet goodnight thinking it will be a awesome melting pot.. yet, I think of Europe in muslims hands along with all the military arnaments , nukes, etc.
and I think Europe must fight or we should at least warn them.

brexit? nevermind.
swamped down as they are doing to Trump here.
we mustn't fight,just be a good citizen and accept our future lot, thought by the ideals and greed of our world leaders.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 07:28 PM (v12G8)

89 Car is not mine.

Are you just using us to get in some girl's pants good graces?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:29 PM (LTHVh)

90 Try the BarsLeak, maybe two. It's not expensive.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:26 PM (LTHVh)
A while back I had some epic leak into the timing cover (??) of my Jeep. My awesome mechanic said, it's about 1100 to fix it or we can try one of those thingies for 50 bucks. It might work forever, it might work for a while, it might not work at all. I opted for the 50 buck fix. So far, all good. Definitely worth a try!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:29 PM (EgOr3)

91 You could try some heavy duty Bars Leak. It couldn't hurt. I fixed a leaky head gasket with that stuff that held long enough to get rid of a piece of crap Equinox.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:29 PM (BO/km)

92
This one fits better IMHO:
http://tinyurl.com/y7oeyxvz
Decollage by Les Balayeurs du d'esert
I've learned to clip my wings
And soften my ways
I've learned
These are ordinary things
like you'd estimate, just average
But evidently she does not agree
like you'd estimate, just average
But I've learned to clip my wings
And soften my ways

Posted by: Yeff at June 25, 2017 07:29 PM (1wjCH)

93 "But for this car...what's the point."

So, if the owner managed to drive it to you, just send the owner home again. They get more inspired when it won't move.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:29 PM (3myMJ)

94 decolletage - it's all coming apart...

is that wrong?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 07:30 PM (WTSFk)

95 We have 40 murders a day in this country. This vastly overshadows the death rate from terrorism.


We have land fills in every county but they do not represent the USA. It's a misnomer to refer to LA county, Chicago, Detroit, and Boston as representative of the USA.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:30 PM (vlVF/)

96
Yeah, Permatex makes a product, too. From what I can tell, these "fixes" only last a few months.

I think it's worth trying.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:30 PM (4DEJp)

97
Heh, try that water proof tape that idiot advertises on late-night TV. He started out with this goop that was supposed to form a water tight seal. He cut out a section in the bottom of a boat, put in a screen door, and covered it with the goop. He then went out on the water, screaming "Yeee-haah!".

With the tape, he saws the boat in half, then tapes it back together and goes "Yee-hahh" again.

Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:30 PM (8O3HH)

98 Ah, the Euros have learned well. Terror can and will be absorbed.

Posted by: Disgraced Ex-Prez'nit Toonces at June 25, 2017 07:31 PM (Tyii7)

99 horde-sourcing should be a verb.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:31 PM (LTHVh)

100 You can also put an egg in your radiator.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:31 PM (BO/km)

101
As far as human-specific genetics, did the individualists in Europe tend to migrate to the USA? If so, did that make Europe more willing to live "under the yoke"? Europeans have long demonstrated more ability to adjust with little resistance to tyranny unless led by You Know Who. The EU is certainly demonstrating that now.
---
I've theorized that the majority of alpha men and women left Europe before the end of WWII. They came to America.

The rest of the alpha males were killed in two world wars.

All that is left are those who are ready to submit.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (aT+Bx)

102
horde-sourcing should be a verb.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:31 PM (LTHVh)
If Ace horde-sources, I will be truly homeless.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (EgOr3)

103 >>Ariana, I saw the perfect product for you the other day. The Blow Job Bib. See Amazon.

If I'd had one of those I'd still have my blue dress.

Posted by: Monica Lewinski at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (/Nite)

104 It probably won't help but you could do it.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (BO/km)

105 Heard good things about JB Weld.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (vlVF/)

106 Terror is part of that spice that diversity gives.

Like the extra zing paint chips give to paste.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (GsAUU)

107 @ 56

>anyone ever fix crack in a plastic radiator<

Don't try.

Bite the bullet and buy a new one, this time see if you can find one with a brass tank top and bottom.

If possible.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (S/hVx)

108
Heh, try that water proof tape that idiot advertises on late-night TV.

As a matter of fact, I ordered a roll of ebay today!


He then went out on the water, screaming "Yeee-haah!".


That's what sold me!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (4DEJp)

109 For the man who has everything: FN303 Less Lethal Launcher http://bit.ly/2tbnedK

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (LTHVh)

Can you launch nice, lethal, fragmentation grenades with it?

asking for a friend

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (XUcIQ)

110 Like the extra zing paint chips give to paste.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (GsAUU)
And now you owe me a keyboard. And half a coors light.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (EgOr3)

111 Decolletage > decollage.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (xAvrH)

112 Ace-of-hordes

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (vlVF/)

113 I guess the very idea of having your radiator "rodded out" is disappearing from our world.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (LTHVh)

114 It is Islams intent to dominate the world. So far they have met little resistance. This will probably not end well. For anyone.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (CNHr1)

115 He then went out on the water, screaming "Yeee-haah!".
-----

That's what sold me!


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (4DEJp)


Slim Pickens fan, eh?

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (OFItL)

116 *Like the extra zing paint chips give to paste.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (GsAUU)*

Joey B., stick with the really old paint for flavoring your paste. The lead will give you gravitas!

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (sNYFR)

117 Diversity: the opiate of the stupid.

Posted by: Disgraced Ex-Prez'nit Toonces at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (Tyii7)

118 Has anything better for mankind ever consciously committed suicide like Western Civilization currently is?

Posted by: ShainS at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (ZcAbN)

119 This "jizya" of which you speak, is that some form of Mooslim bukake? Perhaps involving a goat?

Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:17 PM (8O3HH)




Sandy Fluke: Any way I can get in on this?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (auHtY)

120

Yeah I bought the Flex-Tape. Just for the hell of it. It actually does work. Who knows when it might come in handy someday.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (4DEJp)

121 They got rid of Christianity, because they were soooo sophisticated.

I think you'll find that the invasion of Europe by the Islamist began soon after Christianity was unceremoniously booted.

Posted by: True the Note at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (SJ184)

122 JB Weld is great but it's hard to get anything to stick to the plastic they use for the radiator ends. If it's a crack that is flexing it might come loose, probably at the worst possible time. I'd carry a extra gallon or two of water in the trunk.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:35 PM (BO/km)

123 I think Europe must fight or we should at least warn them.
--
We can't warn them.

If we bring up the topic, they will start screaming RAYCISS at us, and lecture us on our SUVs, our environmental policies and our love of guns.

They have decided to commit suicide, and there is nothing we can do to help. Which is fine, because their politicians do not want our help.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:36 PM (aT+Bx)

124 Heard good things about JB Weld.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:32 PM (vlVF/)



Is that Tuesday's brother?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:36 PM (auHtY)

125 Oh, and the I'll back Putin's Rus/US ISIS alliance in a "heartbeat" horde lobby? Remember that idiotic notion? Yeah, that didn't work out so well for you this past week.

Posted by: 13times at June 25, 2017 07:37 PM (WHVu+)

126 Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 07:23 PM (NgKpN)

We have over 300 million people. The largest European country by population is Germany with about 82 million.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 07:37 PM (IDPbH)

127 The axiom used to be TIA- This is Africa.
Now it is TIE- This is Europe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 07:38 PM (fhkpO)

128 If there are big junk yards within 50 miles it would be worth the call to price a radiator from them.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:38 PM (vlVF/)

129 Eastern European countries seem not to have contracted multicultitis.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 07:38 PM (dhWsa)

130
I've always had one of those battery jumper packs. I think they're great. I had one with a compressor.

The Problem with those jumper packs/compressors is they light-duty. Good for cars and little tires. I have a Navigator.

So I bought two separate units: a heavy duty jumper, a nice one, and a heavy-duty 12v compressor. Love them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:38 PM (4DEJp)

131 Kong Skull Island (2017) or Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (2012) ?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:39 PM (LTHVh)

132 I've theorized that the majority of alpha men and women left Europe before the end of WWII. They came to America.

The rest of the alpha males were killed in two world wars.

All that is left are those who are ready to submit.
Posted by: shibumi at June




well, Christian, muslim, tomato, tomahto. Really all this not submitting is really so much work.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 07:39 PM (0wem/)

133 So I bought two separate units: a heavy duty jumper, a nice one, and a heavy-duty 12v compressor. Love them.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June




brands?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 07:40 PM (0wem/)

134
If there are big junk yards within 50 miles it would be worth the call to price a radiator from them.

A new radiator is cheap: $65, delivered to my door.

But it's still an old car. And I'd have to remove the fans, drain the whole system, and hope all the bolts and screws will turn, and hope I don't break anything brittle in the process...etc...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:40 PM (4DEJp)

135 A Navigator should not have tape on its radiator.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 07:40 PM (vlVF/)

136 Cheese eating surrender monkeys say. "Meh."
Raise yer hand if you're surprised.

Posted by: Monkfish at June 25, 2017 07:41 PM (7ciu+)

137 There was discussion last week about "why do you all stay in California?". I just spent a few days in the DC area. What a shithole. Jesus, it was a relief to come back to the supposedly crowded Bay Area and feel (relative) Freedom again!

We may be corrupt top-to-bottom out here, but they don't have near the control over us that they think they do.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2017 07:41 PM (hBig8)

138 I always knew how Rome fell but always thought the diagnosis was always overwrought.

Fat, lazy citizens who only wanted bread and circuses paying others to fight and die in their foreign wars.

Fat, lazy citizens who only cared about what the Emperor could give them for free and "what me work?"

Fat, lazy citizens who depended upon slavery to prop up and feed an empire.

Modern day Europe is not doing anything new, it's just dirty muzzies and not hairy Germans this time.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 07:41 PM (5VlCp)

139 But it's still an old car. And I'd have to remove the fans, drain the whole system, and hope all the bolts and screws will turn, and hope I don't break anything brittle in the process...etc...


and it's not your car.


Why am I reminded of that SNL skit where the guy is showing his friend the Garage Man Cave he added on and the friends say 'But you rent?!'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:42 PM (LTHVh)

140 We all know the prism through which Charles Blow (racism), Thomas Friedman (globalism), or any left leaning publication will present its view.

According to wikipedia, Charles Blow is bisexual. So he really does live up to his name.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 07:42 PM (xAvrH)

141 131 Kong Skull Island (2017) or Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (2012) ?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:39 PM (LTHVh)

--Haven't seen either, but I heard Michelle Obama was a very convincing Kong.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 07:43 PM (GsAUU)

142
brands?

Yeah, the battery pack is a Schumacher psj-2212 $125, delivered.

And the compressor is an off-brand I found on ebay, $115, delivered.

http://tinyurl.com/y9k8vzy8

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:43 PM (4DEJp)

143
And just as I predicted earlier, the Generac listed for $30 on ebay was de-listed and my order was just canceled.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:44 PM (4DEJp)

144 Yeah, the battery pack is a Schumacher psj-2212 $125, delivered.

And the compressor is an off-brand I found on ebay, $115, delivered.

http://tinyurl.com/y9k8vzy8
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June




thanks. have been looking for a recommendation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 07:44 PM (0wem/)

145 The internet has its negatives but the positives overshadow them by a long shot. Learning how to fix a radiator leak is just a click away.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 07:44 PM (IDPbH)

146 Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (CNHr1)

Little resistance?

It's worse than that, Jewells, my good friend.

Islam is being given sway over formerly free people all over the world.

Just look at what you have to do to fly today, and in many other countries things are much worse of course.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM (3myMJ)

147 >>JB Weld is great but it's hard to get anything to
stick to the plastic they use for the radiator ends. If it's a crack
that is flexing it might come loose, probably at the worst possible
time. I'd carry a extra gallon or two of water in the trunk.

Posted by: f'd

The product I linked to is specifically for the plastic part of the radiator. It's not the regular JB Weld.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM (/Nite)

148 "These are just considered a normal part of life... why do you think people will freak out about terrorism? Which still has a much lower body count... "

By this logic, constant war deaths of 200k or less per year (less than the "preventable circumstances" deaths of 201k+) would also be ignored. Yes?

But they're not.

Organized violence is not normal. A group of them killing groups of you is not normal, and it is not tolerable.

Except by leftists, apparently.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM (n1dE4)

149
well, Christian, muslim, tomato, tomahto. Really all this not submitting is really so much work.
--

Umm.. men really get the better part of the deal in Islam.

Sex with underage girls and boys, freedom to beat your wife and, if things go bad, you become a suicide bomber and your family gets money for life from the middle east.

As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.

Yeah, I'll stick with "not submitting."

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM (aT+Bx)

150 I think maybe the french word you want for "coming apart" is decoller , or decollé[.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (lIZQs)

151 Ace is the place for the helpful hardware man.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (Tyii7)

152 Eastern European countries seem not to have contracted multicultitis.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


They're just so unsophisticated, aren't they?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (S6Pax)

153
and it's not your car.

Exactly.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (4DEJp)

154 >>According to wikipedia, Charles Blow is bisexual.

He should become a spokespersyn for the Blow Job Bib.

Posted by: publius, the persistent poperin pear at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (8O3HH)

155 Hairline crack, man!

oh crud, this is a 15 yr old Sentra that isn't worth buying new anything for

That "plastic weld" won't work?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:25 PM (4DEJp)

Simple solution: buy an uncracked used radiator at Pick and Pull.

Radiator tanks are usually made of thermosetting plastic that does not accept glue well.

If you are feeling adventurous, and the crack is accessible over its entire length, try this:

1. Stop drill the crack. Meaning, find the very ends of the crack, and drill a 1/8" hole right through such that the near edge of the hole just intersects the crack. That should prevent the crack from propagating further.

2. Use a power sander or small grinder to rough up the entire surface for several inches around the crack. Clean the plastic with lacquer thinner.

3. Cut a small strip of metal to lay over the crack, rough it up and clean it the same way, and drill holes such that you can screw or pop rivet it to the rad tank in the holes you stop-drilled, plus others as required.

4. Mix up some JB Weld, and smear it on the crack area, and the back side of your metal patch, and screw or rivet the patch in place before the JB Weld sets. Slather more JB Weld over the outer surface of your metal patch, and the rivet or screw heads.

This might fix it, and should at least slow the leak to a trickle that radiator stop leak can heal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (XUcIQ)

156 36 Over at JihadWatch, the head of the swedish national police is begging for help-- there are now 55 no go zones, and he says they are on the verge of civil war.

That's what happens when you encourage wolves to join your flock of sheep.
Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM


Can we at least save the Swedish Bikini Team?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:47 PM (DMUuz)

157 Hey MJ, did you see that Nike is going to sell his shoes on Amazon?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 07:47 PM (6Ll1u)

158 " It's not the regular JB Weld."

I know but I'd still carry extra coolant just in care.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (BO/km)

159 Indeed Meremortal. You are correct.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (CNHr1)

160

Schumacher makes heavy duty stuff. JNC 660 was my second choice, but Schumacher is a bit more powerful and more rugged.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (4DEJp)

161 As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.

Yeah, I'll stick with "not submitting."

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM (aT+Bx)



I love when I see the feminists for Muzzies useful idiots. It's almost as funny as the gays for Muzzies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

162 AoP, thanks for the link this morning! Ammolite is fascinating, and something I hadn't heard of.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:49 PM (DMUuz)

163 the head of the swedish national police is begging for help

Meh.

Posted by: Zombie Vichy France at June 25, 2017 07:49 PM (Tyii7)

164
Most new radiators have brass for the core, and plastic tanks. It's a cost/weight measure, the tank is crimped to the core, and they DO gots lots of leakage issues.

In other words, new and improved. Just ask the manufacturer.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 07:49 PM (S/hVx)

165 It wouldn't be the horde if someone had not equated jizya and bukake...

Oh jizya! Hear it, you know you are fvcked,
on immigrant flows having ducked,
They're still coming at you,
You infidel dog you,
Bukake was cheaper, though it sucked!

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (Eynls)

166 A million years ago it seems I had a leak in my 72 Mustang, used a radiator leak stuff and it fixed it, but then few years later couldn't drain it so got rid of it instead of replacing radiator. How stupid was that, I loved that car.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (Ot7+c)

167 I love when I see the feminists for Muzzies useful idiots. It's almost as funny as the gays for Muzzies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

Right? I mean, they think they hate living in a nominally Christian country now....

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (ANIFC)

168 Ugh, why is History showing a Pirates of the Caribbean movie?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (GsAUU)

169 Well you could McGuyver it like AOP but for $65 I'd just get another if I had to take it out anyway. Probably needs hoses too.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (BO/km)

170 161 As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.
Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 07:45 PM


On the glass half-full side of the equation, you might only have to make every fourth sammich.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (DMUuz)

171 Umm.. men really get the better part of the deal in Islam.

Sex with underage girls and boys, freedom to beat your wife and, if things go bad, you become a suicide bomber and your family gets money for life from the middle east.

As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.

Yeah, I'll stick with "not submitting."
Posted by: shibumi at June



well, you are not european so it does not surprise me that you are not sophisticated enough to appreciate the silliness of resisting. nominally Christian, nominally muslim, who cares. not like anything would change.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (0wem/)

172 In other words, new and improved. Just ask the manufacturer.
Posted by: irongrampa

My son has a 2008 Pontiac G6, and the plastic radiator cracked and had to be replaced. Just saving a few pounds here and there for the mpg.
Dumb. Really, really dumb.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (S6Pax)

173 Over at JihadWatch, the head of the swedish national police is begging for help-- there are now 55 no go zones, and he says they are on the verge of civil war.



This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army? Because if they do and it's not entirely worthless, I use it to go through the no go zones like the Wehrmacht through France

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (auHtY)

174
4. Mix up some JB Weld, and smear it on the crack area, and the back side of your metal patch, and screw or rivet the patch in place before the JB Weld sets. Slather more JB Weld over the outer surface of your metal patch, and the rivet or screw heads.

I like this idea, and it might work because the crack is on a flat surface.

A guy on youtube used a soldering iron and re-melted the plastic. I was thinking I'd try that to seal it, and then put some JB Weld or Permatex radiator "fix" stuff on it. Crazy?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (4DEJp)

175 Go to YouTube and watch Mark Steyn's interview of Douglas Murray. It's a must-see.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 25, 2017 07:53 PM (xiOrX)

176 I use it to go through the no go zones like the Wehrmacht through France

Like shit through a goose.

Posted by: Zombie General George Patton at June 25, 2017 07:53 PM (Tyii7)

177 I think maybe the french word you want for "coming apart" is decoller , or decoll[.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 07:46 PM (lIZQs)

In geology, a decollement describes a body of rock that has been broken away from its roots and transported laterally on a low-angle fault.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 07:54 PM (XUcIQ)

178
Probably needs hoses too.

Yeah, see?
And maybe it needs a new thermostat. And a new thermostat housing.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:55 PM (4DEJp)

179 168 Ugh, why is History showing a Pirates of the Caribbean movie?
Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (GsAUU)

Because aliens!

Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at June 25, 2017 07:55 PM (ANIFC)

180 Can Mark Steyn and Douglas Murray fix a damn plastic radiator? Huh?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 25, 2017 07:55 PM (H5rtT)

181 I SAWED THIS BOAT IN HALF!!!

Posted by: Flex Tape at June 25, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l)

182
140 We all know the prism through which Charles Blow (racism), Thomas Friedman (globalism), or any left leaning publication will present its view.

According to wikipedia, Charles Blow is bisexual. So he really does live up to his name.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 07:42 PM (xAvrH)
And his writing sucks.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (nBr1j)

183 A guy on youtube used a soldering iron and re-melted the plastic. I was thinking I'd try that to seal it, and then put some JB Weld or Permatex radiator "fix" stuff on it. Crazy?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Heating the plastic with a soldering iron changes the molecular structure of the plastic and makes it more brittle. Once heated, it will likely fail again in the same place.
AOP has a pretty good kluge on fixing this. Sounds like it should work.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (S6Pax)

184 The Disney Ranch/ABC studios in Placerita Canyon is about to go up in flames.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (udajc)

185 As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.

Yeah, I'll stick with "not submitting."

Posted by: shibumi


Join the Democrat party as a soft jihadist mole in America. You'll get to live your life how you wish, before the hardline Islamists take over. And you get to bang Hillary every night.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (xAvrH)

186 Hmm... Has the MSM asked a certain former POTUS about these events? Will they ever?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (dhWsa)

187 I SAWED THIS BOAT IN HALF!!! Posted by: Flex Tape

Yes.

Posted by: Ginsu Knives, as seen on TV at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (Tyii7)

188 Heating the plastic with a soldering iron changes
the molecular structure of the plastic and makes it more brittle. Once
heated, it will likely fail again in the same place.

AOP has a pretty good kluge on fixing this. Sounds like it should work.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 25, 2017 07:56 PM (S6Pax)
As long as "the same place" isn't Sooth's place, I'm voting for "it doesn't matter."

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (EgOr3)

189 175 Go to YouTube and watch Mark Steyn's interview of Douglas Murray. It's a must-see.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 25, 2017 07:53 PM (xiOrX)

--Yeah, it's an hour long, but at the end I would not have minded another hour.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (GsAUU)

190 >>> This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army?

According to the article, not really.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (jw2Xw)

191 This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army? Because if they do and it's not entirely worthless, I use it to go through the no go zones like the Wehrmacht through France
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM


The cops are completely demoralized (80+% are thinking seriously about quitting), and the military, after decades of progressive feminist political leadership, is, as one would expect, worthless.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (DMUuz)

192 Well you could McGuyver it like AOP but for $65 I'd just get another if I had to take it out anyway. Probably needs hoses too.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 07:51 PM (BO/km)

I have to admit $65 for a whole new rad is a sweet deal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (XUcIQ)

193 @ 174

Sure, go ahead and give it go.

Just be aware you're setting up another failure and #2 will likely be a crapload worse in terms of where and when it happens.

Not trying to be assy, but I've been down this lane and there's no good ending.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (S/hVx)

194
Radiator tanks are usually made of thermosetting plastic that does not accept glue well.

a company called Polyvance makes a nylon plastic filler just for plastic radiators. Pretty neat. All you need is a special heat gun, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O67ZkKRnOVM

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:58 PM (4DEJp)

195 Looks like the big renovation is underway for Dudy Noble Field at Polk Dement Stadium, aka "The Carnegie Hall of College Baseball"...the place that my beloved Mississippi State Bulldogs call home.



https://tinyurl.com/y9dd82lt


For those wondering, yes, you can do your own cooking in the Left Field Lounge.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 25, 2017 07:58 PM (yzxic)

196 129 Eastern European countries seem not to have contracted multicultitis.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 07:38 PM

Eastern Europe has 1) a better understanding of what it means to have your citizens relegated to second-class and 2) a bigger percentage of Christians who have no wish to submit to Islam, which looks a lot like a religion inspired by Satan.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 07:58 PM (hQWkm)

197 167 I love when I see the feminists for Muzzies useful idiots. It's almost as funny as the gays for Muzzies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

Right? I mean, they think they hate living in a nominally Christian country now....
Posted by: josephistan



Its called moral cowardice. They attack Christians because they are easy targets. Christians are not going to rape, torture, or kill them. Muslims on the other hand..... well, have a bit of a track record.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 25, 2017 07:59 PM (pY+s4)

198 I wonder why nothing bad ever happens on the steps of the Supreme Court?

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2017 07:59 PM (u7aNo)

199 The cops are completely demoralized (80+% are thinking seriously about quitting), and the military, after decades of progressive feminist political leadership, is, as one would expect, worthless.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (DMUuz)



Well so much for that plan. And I'm guessing any people with the nads to do anything is labeled and enemy of the state and locked up for thinking unplusgood thoughts

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:00 PM (auHtY)

200 A guy on youtube used a soldering iron and re-melted the plastic. I was thinking I'd try that to seal it, and then put some JB Weld or Permatex radiator "fix" stuff on it. Crazy?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (4DEJp)

You could try that, but do stop-drill the crack. Stop-drilling is based upon sound science, and it does work. Even in glass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 08:00 PM (XUcIQ)

201 >>> Eastern Europe has

3) cultural memory of rule by the Turks.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:00 PM (jw2Xw)

202 180 Can Mark Steyn and Douglas Murray fix a damn plastic radiator? Huh?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 25, 2017 07:55 PM (H5rtT)

--Heh, it would not surprise me if Mark could.

He lives out in the woods of New Hampshire in a small town, so probably a lot of self-reliant folks there.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 08:00 PM (GsAUU)

203 Sweden actually has a well equipped army with equipment they developed.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 08:00 PM (IDPbH)

204 "Nothing feels different, all looks the same, no one is letting the
discomfort get in their way, but in Europe, terrorism is the new normal."

Yeah, no. This is so fucked up.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:01 PM (Id9+8)

205 191 This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army? Because if they do and it's not entirely worthless, I use it to go through the no go zones like the Wehrmacht through France
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM

The cops are completely demoralized (80+% are thinking seriously about quitting), and the military, after decades of progressive feminist political leadership, is, as one would expect, worthless.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 07:57 PM (DMUuz)

How about their Air Force? They have all those nice SAAB jets that have never seen action.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 08:01 PM (ANIFC)

206 I heard two interviews with Murray and thinkinb of reading his book as its a favorite doomsday of mine.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 08:01 PM (Ot7+c)

207 I always knew how Rome fell but always thought the diagnosis was always overwrought. "

I've beaten the Gibbons drum perhaps a bit much.
And then I re read...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (MINbv)

208 You could try that, but do stop-drill the crack. Stop-drilling is based upon sound science, and it does work. Even in glass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June




So you know, if I am ever abducted by aliens and they tell me that they are dropping me on a deserted planet but I get to pick 5 people to go with me, you are going on a long journey. bad news you will be stuck with me. good news, the other four are girls and I will let you pick tow of them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (0wem/)

209 Eastern Europe has
3) cultural memory of rule by the Turks.


And cultural memory of dark, dank interrogation rooms.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (Tyii7)

210 I'm watching the Love Boat. Couldn't happen with hijabs could it?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (6Ll1u)

211 191 This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army? Because if
they do and it's not entirely worthless, I use it to go through the no
go zones like the Wehrmacht through France

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM


Yeah they do, a useless travesty. At least as of '96, and I doubt it's improved.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (Id9+8)

212 Oh good Lord.. my daughter went on vacation and the poor dog (Moose) has not stopped whining!! Gonna be a long week.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 25, 2017 08:03 PM (CNHr1)

213
But you need to see the whole picture with this car.

It need more than a just a radiator repair. There's the strut mount, I mentioned. To do everything "right," it needs two new struts...and then an alignment.

Who know, maybe it needs lower ball joints, and tie rod ends.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:03 PM (4DEJp)

214
You've got a look at car repairs with pragmatism, always.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:05 PM (4DEJp)

215 So you know, if I am ever abducted by aliens and
they tell me that they are dropping me on a deserted planet but I get to
pick 5 people to go with me, you are going on a long journey. bad
news you will be stuck with me. good news, the other four are girls and
I will let you pick tow of them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:02 PM (0wem/)

Don't even think about me, Y5. You need chicks of child-bearing age. That's my out.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:05 PM (Id9+8)

216
This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army?

Maybe they have a Posse Comitatus law which prevents the army from doing police work.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 08:05 PM (IqV8l)

217 Actually, the Gripen's engine is a GE-derived product and the avionics are Brit and American. They can't sustain a robust defense industry on their own in the absence of high export sales, which have not materialized.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 08:06 PM (9XtGG)

218 So, we have two comment themes:

1) the parlous condition of Europe and the eclipse of Enlightenment countries.

2) radiator repair.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:06 PM (dhWsa)

219 know, maybe it needs lower ball joints, and tie rod ends"

Oh goody - suspension and steering.
Seriously. I love that stuff...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:07 PM (MINbv)

220 You want to fix a plastic radiator leak? Go to your nearest sail loft, trust me, there are plenty on the North Shore, and get some kevlar sail repair tape.

Rough up and acetone the area and that patch will hold.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 08:07 PM (/tuJf)

221 185 As a female, I can't hold a job, can't leave the house without a male relative, get beaten and have my girl parts sawed up with a random piece of glass. And if I get raped, my family has to kill me.

Yeah, I'll stick with "not submitting."

Posted by: shibumi

Me, too.

As an aside, I think the SJWs and the Muslim mobs have TWO things in common: they don't have an internal locus of control - they're triggered by things in their environment- and individuals will be judged on public performance to show their devotion. Self-control and forgiveness are not strong suits.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 08:07 PM (hQWkm)

222

WWRGD?
What Would Red Green Do?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:07 PM (4DEJp)

223 3 egg whites and hope for the best then Sooth.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 08:08 PM (BO/km)

224
Rough up and acetone the area and that patch will hold.

I'm assuming that's what the Permatex product is.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (4DEJp)

225 I have "Road House' on the DVD and reading about radiator fixes and the demise of most of Europe. Multitasking for the win.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (fhkpO)

226
This maybe a silly question but does Sweden have an army? Because if they do and it's not entirely worthless, I use it to go through the no go zones like the Wehrmacht through France
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 07:52 PM (auHtY)


Sweden doesn't have an army; Sweden is an army - of lefty lunatics.

Posted by: Zombie Hitler at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (lIZQs)

227 Watching the Omega Glory episode of Star Trek. That's the one with the Yangs.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (IDPbH)

228 Oops I meant yolks. Hell just shove the whole things n there.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (BO/km)

229 One of the interviews was with Dennis Prager and was thinking Murray was talking like it was the ghosts of Europe past, present and future

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 08:10 PM (Ot7+c)

230 we have two comment themes: "

Which actually makes sense...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:10 PM (MINbv)

231 >>> Don't even think about me, Y5. You need chicks of child-bearing age. That's my out.

I thought AOP was giving that comment at first.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:10 PM (jw2Xw)

232
Morons and the Art of Radiator Maintenance

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:11 PM (4DEJp)

233 You've got a look at car repairs with pragmatism, always.

Ask yourself, would you buy this car from someone, if it didn't have the problem for the price of the repair, less junk value?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 08:11 PM (LTHVh)

234 and junk value is really low right now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 08:11 PM (LTHVh)

235 I love when I see the feminists for Muzzies useful idiots. It's almost as funny as the gays for Muzzies
Posted by: TheQuietMan


I think this a result of a "join the circus" mentality.

When a teen runs off to join the circus, they see their family up close and personal, with all their flaws and failings. They only briefly see a circus show, with everyone putting on their best behavior for the performance, so they make the mistake of thinking that circus life will be preferable to home life. Then they discover that they have to clean out the elephant pen and the monkey cage and realize they've made a yuuuge mistake.

Feminists and gays are the same. The feminist may have dated a jerk boyfriend, the gay may have been refused his cake. They think, the West is so EVIL and oppressive! And they invite in hordes of Muslims, not realizing they have even *worse* defects of character than the white, straight people they grew up with.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:11 PM (xAvrH)

236 >>I'm assuming that's what the Permatex product is.

I don't know what the Permatex product is all about. Acetone is basically a cleaning agent for this purpose and the biggest problem with sticking to plastic after a smooth surface is dirt.

The kevlar sail tape has it's own adhesive. It will hold.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 08:12 PM (/tuJf)

237 junk value is really low right now."

All used car values are very low...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:12 PM (MINbv)

238 I went to junk my F150 and the yards offered me $100 for it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 08:13 PM (LTHVh)

239
Ask yourself, would you buy this car from someone, if it didn't have the problem for the price of the repair, less junk value?

Yeah, you really need to assess the true VALUE of an older car before repairing it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:13 PM (4DEJp)

240 All I know about adhesives is that I have never been able to get Super glue to actually hold anything together ... outside of my fingers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 08:13 PM (rZ+mb)

241 A couple of years ago they offered $400, and I got to keep the tires and alloy wheels.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 08:14 PM (LTHVh)

242
I wonder if that Flex Tape is made from that kevlar tape?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:14 PM (4DEJp)

243 225 I have "Road House' on the DVD and reading about radiator fixes and the demise of most of Europe. Multitasking for the win.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 08:09 PM (fhkpO)

--Patrick Swayze you were so fuckin' sexy in Road House!

https://youtu.be/IThsYOM2y10

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 08:14 PM (GsAUU)

244 Anybody interested in a used Prius? Only 99k mi.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 08:14 PM (lIZQs)

245 Re: Sweden's military, here is a relevant thread,

//www.quora.com/What-is-the-current-state-of-the-Swedish-defense-Forces

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:15 PM (n1dE4)

246 to get Super glue to actually hold anything together ... outside of my fingers"

It's an awesome emergency bandage..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:16 PM (MINbv)

247 Anybody interested in a used Prius? Only 99k mi.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 08:14 PM (lIZQs)


Does it come covered in lefty bumperstickers?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:16 PM (auHtY)

248 I have no idea why I got sucked into watching The Patriot, just watched this a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (Ot7+c)

249 Don't even think about me, Y5. You need chicks of child-bearing age. That's my out.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




well you would probably be wrong on that, not interested in restarting society on some barren rock. more interested in being really comfortable and well served.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (0wem/)

250 Watching the Steyn-Douglas Murray thing now. Can't remember who first brought it up but, thank you! It's amazing.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (EgOr3)

251 237
junk value is really low right now."



All used car values are very low...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:12 PM (MINbv)

---------------------------
I know, we need a government program to retire old cars that gives value to the owner!

We could call it "Cash for Clunkers"!

Posted by: Javems at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (yOqwj)

252 Feminists and gays are the same. The feminist may have dated a jerk boyfriend, the gay may have been refused his cake. They think, the West is so EVIL and oppressive! And they invite in hordes of Muslims, not realizing they have even *worse* defects of character than the white, straight people they grew up with.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:11 PM (xAvrH)

Yup...both are filled with a blind hate they mask with their activism of "love" and "acceptance".

What they do not realize is the muzzie hates more and has no need of a mask.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (5VlCp)

253 It's an awesome emergency bandage..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:16 PM (MINbv)


Yep. THat New Skin stuff is basically just super glue. (Burns like a bitch, BTW). But, outside of that, I have tried super gluing all sorts of shit and I can't remember even once that it actually held anything together.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 08:18 PM (rZ+mb)

254 I thought AOP was giving that comment at first.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:10 PM (jw2Xw)

Yeah, but not after the first sentence, I hope...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (Id9+8)

255
I own a 30 year old SUV. Don't plan on replacing it unless the body gives up. I can repair all the mechanicals but refuse to do any body work.

There is no real reason to have this 30 year old vehicle, other than I simply like it.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (S/hVx)

256 "That girl has entirely too many brains to have an ass like that" C'est La Vie.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (fhkpO)

257 I know, we need a government program to retire old cars that gives value to the owner!

We could call it "Cash for Clunkers"!
Posted by: Javems at June




New Orleans has a better program called beads for knockers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (0wem/)

258 Re: Sweden's military, here is a relevant thread,

//www.quora.com/What-is-the-current-state-of-the-Swedish-defense-Forces

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:15 PM (n1dE4)



Looks like Sweden's military is about on par with the average college. I love the broad in the camo with the rainbow patch on her arm.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (auHtY)

259 I know, we need a government program to retire old cars that gives value to the owner!

We could call it "Cash for Clunkers"!

Posted by: Javems at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (yOqwj)


Give that Moron a Nobel Prize!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (u/cP2)

260 Sweden's military, here is a relevant thread"

So it's the DMV.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (MINbv)

261 EU assho,es are trying to force Poland to take in refugees, under the threat of a tax or fine if they don't. Hopefully Poland holds firm and tells these idiots in Brussels to pound sand.

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (gcme+)

262 Islam, which looks a lot like a religion inspired by Satan.
---

hahaha.

They kill in my name and yet no one has figured out that they are my minions.


Posted by: Beelzabub at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (aT+Bx)

263 Yep. THat New Skin stuff is basically just super glue. (Burns like a bitch, BTW). But, outside of that, I have tried super gluing all sorts of shit and I can't remember even once that it actually held anything together.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2017 08:18 PM (rZ+mb)

I have a lot of resin models that are built with CA (super glue). Regular model glue only works on styrene plastic.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 08:20 PM (ANIFC)

264 My mother has a 1997 Nissan Sentra with only 15,500 miles on it.

She doesn't get out much.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 08:20 PM (IDPbH)

265 My mother has a 1997 Nissan Sentra with only 15,500 miles on it.

She doesn't get out much.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June




nevermind

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:20 PM (0wem/)

266
Speaking of the rainbow crap I see the headlines that the gay pride parades have taken on the note of "resistance". Trump has gone out of his way to show he's supportive of them and they still consider him the enemy.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:20 PM (auHtY)

267 261 EU assho,es are trying to force Poland to take in refugees, under the threat of a tax or fine if they don't. Hopefully Poland holds firm and tells these idiots in Brussels to pound sand.
Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM (gcme+)

Why doesn't Poland leave the EU? What are they getting out of that deal?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 08:21 PM (ANIFC)

268 well you would probably be wrong on that, not
interested in restarting society on some barren rock. more interested
in being really comfortable and well served.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:17 PM (0wem/)

Ah - Hedonism 'R Us?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:21 PM (Id9+8)

269 It's almost as funny as the gays for Muzzies
--

Those muslim boys are so exotic. Their dark skin, black eyes and sweaty, hairy bodies... they're dream boats.

And.. yes, we know that they kill gays in the Middle East, but that can't happen here.

/cue Rainbow song...

Posted by: gays for Islam baby! at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (aT+Bx)

270 Maybe they have a Posse Comitatus law which prevents the army from doing police work.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


That should apply. Essentially, they're being occupied by hostile foreign invaders. They should be able to call in the army to kill/expel them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (xAvrH)

271 "under the threat of a tax or fine if they don't"

You can't tax a sovereign power.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (n1dE4)

272 Ah - Hedonism 'R Us?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




well, on my planet Hedonism 'R U

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (0wem/)

273 >>> Hopefully Poland holds firm and tells these idiots in Brussels to pound sand.

The land of Jan Sobieski and (church based) Solidarnosc?

Go long on Poles.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (jw2Xw)

274 @270 That shouldn't apply.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:23 PM (xAvrH)

275 It'll be interesting to see if the Slavs and Irish between them can do a Charles Martel on Eurabia. As to radiators, i have no opinion. That's a heated discussion.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 08:24 PM (Eynls)

276 Go long on Poles.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (jw2Xw)
Loving the Poles!!! May they live long and prosper!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 08:24 PM (EgOr3)

277 My birthday is on the 28th.I'm driving to New Mexico on Route66 to see moms.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 08:24 PM (E12vF)

278 When I go backpacking/primitive camping, I always make sure to have New Skin (or Super Glue, either or) in my first aid kit. I've found Bandaids are a complete waste in the wild. A roll of gauze, a roll of medical tape (the old school skinny Johnson & Johnson rolls. Nothing beats the original) and some New Skin or Super Glue.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 08:25 PM (ul9CR)

279 261 EU assho,es are trying to force Poland to take in refugees, under the threat of a tax or fine if they don't. Hopefully Poland holds firm and tells these idiots in Brussels to pound sand.
Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 08:19 PM

I'm guessing the Poles believe that the monetary and social costs of taking in refugees far outweighs any fine.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 08:25 PM (hQWkm)

280

Red Green makes a "Cadillac Backhoe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4g2bp_gZDE

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:25 PM (4DEJp)

281 well, on my planet Hedonism 'R U

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (0wem/)

That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:25 PM (Id9+8)

282 Trump has gone out of his way to show he's supportive of them and they still scream, kick, and cry like 2 year olds "

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:25 PM (MINbv)

283 Gah. According to Wiki, Sweden's army is 50k strong. Including reservists.

In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million.

What a fucking joke. Texas could conquer Sweden in a matter of weeks.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:26 PM (n1dE4)

284 Those muslim boys are so exotic. Their dark skin, black eyes and sweaty, hairy bodies... they're dream boats.

And.. yes, we know that they kill gays in the Middle East, but that can't happen here.

/cue Rainbow song...

Posted by: gays for Islam baby!


And they still doubled down on that even after Orlando.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (xAvrH)

285 Go long on Poles.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:22 PM (jw2Xw)


Often occupied. Never subjugated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (ghQg8)

286 I figured it would be a good thing to do on my 29th birthday

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (6Ll1u)

287 And they still doubled down on that even after Orlando.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (xAvrH)


But: "Republican Hate Kills"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:28 PM (ghQg8)

288 That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




rough day. don't worry, on my planet the days are 12 hours long.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:28 PM (0wem/)

289 >>> Texas could conquer Sweden in a matter of weeks.

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:30 PM (jw2Xw)

290 Hmm... Has the MSM asked a certain former POTUS about these events?

Bush?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 08:30 PM (oVJmc)

291 33
Europe can stew in it's own juices regarding terrorism.

WE are Americans, living in the most exceptional country on the planet.

Terrorism will never be accepted as the norm, to be meekly endured.

That isn't in our psyche.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM (S/hVx)

***

Ahem

Posted by: Millions of stupid liberals living in New York City at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (UOr6C)

292 At least for a while, Western Europe will probably be like Northern Ireland during the thirty years of Troubles.

About 100 dead a year, in a province of about a million and a half people. Walls, barricades, being searched before you were allowed into the city center, constant military patrols, etc.

Things changed a lot in England too, since part of the IRA terrorist campaign was conducted there.

A lot of the Catholic population passively supported the IRA, even if only a few actively assisted.

There were differences, of course, IRA attacks generally targeted police and military - there was a huge bombing in downtown Manchester that killed no one, since the IRA phoned in a warning ahead of time.

The IRA's political goals were also limited - union with the Irish Republic, and for some IRA groups, a socialist Ireland.

The jihadists try to maximize civilian casualties, not minimize them, and their demand for a Caliphate in Western Europe is very different than a demand that the area join a adjacent European state.

The parameters of the IRA campaign kept it limited - eventually, this will not be true of the jihadi campaign.

Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (xnAyb)

293 Posted by: gays for Islam baby!

And they still doubled down on that even after Orlando.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (xAvrH)



They blamed us for Orlando. The brainwashing is so complete and their hatred of us so thorough they can't see the reality in front of them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (auHtY)

294 Super glue has great tensile strength, but no shear strength. So it only seems to work where you can get a micro thin layer of the stuff applied and dried, like broken ceramics, where you have a physical barrier to shear.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (lIZQs)

295 286
I figured it would be a good thing to do on my 29th birthday

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 08:27 PM (6Ll1u)
I hope you have the awesomest birthday, Tinfoilbaby! I know your mom's going to love it. xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (EgOr3)

296 some dummy from Gernamy
-------
Peruvia kicked their asses in the last war. (The 2nd Skittles War of 1976.)

Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2017 08:31 PM (nlbfN)

297 wait until the europeans find out how unconditional unconditional is with the jihadis.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:32 PM (0wem/)

298 Ahem
Posted by: Millions of stupid liberals living in New York City "

Ahem. There's millions of us as well...

(Texas)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:33 PM (MINbv)

299 rough day. don't worry, on my planet the days are 12 hours long.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:28 PM (0wem/)

Yeah, but how long are the nights?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:33 PM (Id9+8)

300 "They blamed us for Orlando. The brainwashing is so complete and their hatred of us so thorough they can't see the reality in front of them."

Ok with me. Their side is chosen. I'll remember that. Not my tribe.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:34 PM (n1dE4)

301 Yeah, but how long are the nights?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




enough

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:34 PM (0wem/)

302 "Bush?"

Compare and contrast:

a) MENA in 2008

b) MENA in 2016

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:34 PM (ghQg8)

303 I have used a super glue to adhere a plastic shoe on horses feet that for some reason can't hold a nail on shoe. Have had a lot of success with it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 08:35 PM (fhkpO)

304 302 "Bush?"

Compare and contrast:

a) MENA in 2008

b) MENA in 2016
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:34 PM (ghQg

MENA? Make Europe North Africa?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 08:35 PM (ANIFC)

305 Leftists will soon learn they think they can't live without Muzzies but they won't be able to live with them.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 08:35 PM (Ot7+c)

306 "They blamed us for Orlando. The brainwashing is so complete and their hatred of us so thorough they can't see the reality in front of them"

From Salon:

"Orlando Pulse one year later: a Catholic Priest "builds a bridge" to the LGBT community"

I guess there won't be any more Catholic attacks on gay nightclubs, then.

Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:35 PM (xnAyb)

307
So I'm doing a bit of job searching and a company called Braintree has rainbowed up its company logo. Gee, I wonder for Easter or Christmas they do anything Christian themed?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:35 PM (auHtY)

308 Yeah, but how long are the nights?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June









enough

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:34 PM (0wem/)

You're so romantic. I'm like putty in your hands.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:36 PM (Id9+8)

309 Barbra Streisand. That is what the left want people to believe. Ask someone who fled the line of fire what they think? Near death experiences have a way of sorting people out.

Posted by: Locke Common at June 25, 2017 08:36 PM (zSXXo)

310 They've surrendered. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 08:36 PM (0mRoj)

311 If Sweden has a tiny (50k) army, maybe they should start deputizing people. Handing out rifles and creating militias to retake their cities.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:36 PM (xAvrH)

312 283 Gah. According to Wiki, Sweden's army is 50k strong. Including reservists.

In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million.

What a fucking joke. Texas could conquer Sweden in a matter of weeks.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:26 PM (n1dE4)

****

Are you kidding me? Give me the NYPD warrant squad, a Staten Island Ferry and a helicopter and I could conquer Sweden in a week. Speaking of which ~ ever been to Canada? I go to Halifax every year or so. The Home of Canada's Atlantic "fleet". It's a friggin joke. I think if you armed the boots that cruised Niagara Falls you could probably take them out on one engagement. It must be nice to sleep under the blanket of freedom we provide you and not have to pay for it.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 25, 2017 08:37 PM (UOr6C)

313 You're so romantic. I'm like putty in your hands.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




sarcasm is no way to have access to the oxygen pills, steak tablets, and water maker.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:38 PM (0wem/)

314 Are you kidding me? Give me the NYPD warrant squad,

Not a single dog will make it out alive.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 08:39 PM (0mRoj)

315 Better yet, find some European who has just had his or her loved one, child, parent, etc. blown to hell and see what they think.

Posted by: Locke Common at June 25, 2017 08:39 PM (zSXXo)

316
What a f******g joke. Texas could conquer Sweden in a matter of weeks.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:26 PM (n1dE4)

Send one Ranger.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 25, 2017 08:39 PM (brIR5)

317 It's an awesome emergency bandage..

My late older brother super glued back together a cat that had been hit by a car; the cat lived for years.


Posted by: An Observation at June 25, 2017 08:39 PM (MU606)

318 "In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million."

Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.

Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM (xnAyb)

319 318 "In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million."

Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.
Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM (xnAyb)

They take their reindeer protection seriously.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 08:42 PM (0mRoj)

320 sarcasm is no way to have access to the oxygen pills, steak tablets, and water maker.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:38 PM (0wem/)

Oh, so you would have no interest in my survival?
You really need to think this through, darling.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:42 PM (Id9+8)

321 "It must be nice to sleep under the blanket of freedom we provide you and not have to pay for it."

Isolationism, ho!

Seriously, we are strategically overextended. A bunch of inertia left over from the Cold War that is increasingly hard to justify. Let the Europeans pull their own fucking weight for a change.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:43 PM (n1dE4)

322 Isolationism, ho!

No ho can thrive in isolation.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (0mRoj)

323 "In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million."



Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.

Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM (xnAyb)

I think it borders Russia - who has, on occasion, attempted to invade.

Posted by: An Observation at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (MU606)

324 company called Braintree"
Division of PayPal. Rainbow logo for Happy Eid"

I'd lol...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (MINbv)

325 My late father-in-law was in the Swedish Navy. He did a lot of standing around, pointing the way to Norway.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (lwiT4)

326 Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.

Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM (xnAyb)


Oh, winter of '39-'40 may have had some influence.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (6FRey)

327 I just looked out the window and fireflies!

I love fireflies. They're the most awesomest insects.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

328 325 My late father-in-law was in the Swedish Navy. He did a lot of standing around, pointing the way to Norway.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 25, 2017 08:44 PM (lwiT4)

Heeng borng hurndy hard to port!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 08:45 PM (0mRoj)

329 @316

One riot, one Ranger.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 08:45 PM (Eynls)

330 318 "In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million."

Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.
Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM (xnAyb)

***

Beats me?

Posted by: Zombie Joseph Stalin at June 25, 2017 08:46 PM (UOr6C)

331 Oh, so you would have no interest in my survival?
You really need to think this through, darling.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




you are making this whole thing unnecessarily difficult.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:46 PM (0wem/)

332 Europe is proof f cking Islam is winning.At least there.

Posted by: Squeaky at June 25, 2017 08:46 PM (HpFYU)

333 >>Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.

Finland has a long history with Russia. If there is one group of 1 million naturally pissed off people I wouldn't fuck with it would be the Fins.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 08:46 PM (/tuJf)

334 Aside, I just started working out again this month. Already a noticeable difference in my arms. How nice. My first few years in the Army, I was absolutely unable to bulk up no matter how I trained. Killer abs, though.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:47 PM (n1dE4)

335 Finland has almost 1 million."

Ok, so two Rangers, tops...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 08:47 PM (MINbv)

336 From Salon:

"Orlando Pulse one year later: a Catholic Priest "builds a bridge" to the LGBT community"

I guess there won't be any more Catholic attacks on gay nightclubs, then.



Having your feelings hurt is much worse than getting butchered in a night club. Sure. Why not. Its the 21st Century. If your going to be a moral relativist, don't fuck around. Go all in.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 25, 2017 08:47 PM (pY+s4)

337 "When the plastic parts break, time for a new radiator."

This.

Or at least a replacement rad.

I don't think those plastic tanks can be reliably repaired.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 08:47 PM (ujwCG)

338 Finland has a long history with Russia. If there is one group of 1 million naturally pissed off people I wouldn't fuck with it would be the Fins.
Posted by: JackStraw at June




nothing pisses off the Finns more than having to quit drinking and get themselves out of their sad to have to go kill russians.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (0wem/)

339 What a f******g joke. Texas could conquer Sweden in a matter of weeks.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:26 PM (n1dE4)

Send one Ranger.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 25, 2017 08:39 PM (brIR5)



With or without his faithful Indian companion?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (auHtY)

340 you are making this whole thing unnecessarily difficult.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:46 PM (0wem/)

I'm a woman. It's what we do.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (Id9+8)

341 If the Finland Army is anything like the Finland curling team, they will look like an army of clones.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (lIZQs)

342 nothing pisses off the Finns more than having to quit drinking and get themselves out of their sad to have to go kill russians.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (0wem/)

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 08:49 PM (EgOr3)

343 I'm a woman. It's what we do.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June



I am marooned on a planet. just trying to get along as comfortably as possible and you want to force me to make mortal decisions.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:49 PM (0wem/)

344 Peaches! You're back! Are you Finnish?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:50 PM (0wem/)

345 318 "In contrast, Finland has almost 1 million."

Can't imagine why Finland has such a large military.
Posted by: Welcome To The Future at June 25, 2017 08:40 PM

Because they're historically kickers of russkie butt; e.g. The Battle of Suomussalmi and later Tali Intahala. They still have a majority of everyday Finns who want a strong homeland defense, so they still have the draft or whatever they call it there.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 08:50 PM (hQWkm)

346 Well, in the russians, defense, when it comes to getting killed, no one does it better than the russians. you would think they thought they were playing give away in world war 2.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:52 PM (0wem/)

347 America is not too far behind Yerp in the stupid department.

Posted by: Eromero at June 25, 2017 08:52 PM (zLDYs)

348 I can't ever remember the guy's name so I just Bing 'white death'.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:52 PM (jw2Xw)

349 A Finn or a Swede? Hard to tell;
Is that lutefisk or a sleigh bell?
When the muzzies come knocking,
We'll find who's fokking
Useless or who's William Tell.

*Burma cultural appropriation*

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 08:53 PM (Eynls)

350 I am marooned on a planet. just trying to get along
as comfortably as possible and you want to force me to make mortal
decisions.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:49 PM (0wem/)

In the spirit of cooperation, you could perhaps not threaten me with death.
Maybe be nice to me, or something along those lines?
Yeah, I know, what's the point of your own planet if you have to deal with the same old shit?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:53 PM (Id9+8)

351 In the spirit of cooperation, you could perhaps not threaten me with death.
Maybe be nice to me, or something along those lines?
Yeah, I know, what's the point of your own planet if you have to deal with the same old shit?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June



who threatened you with death? like I am going to start rubbing people out just because they are difficult. yeesh. difference between easy access and no access.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:55 PM (0wem/)

352 Well, in the russians, defense, when it comes to getting killed, no one does it better than the russians. you would think they thought they were playing give away in world war 2.

Posted by: yankeefifth


The big hero in WWII Russia was the weather.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:55 PM (xAvrH)

353 It'll be interesting to see if the Slavs and Irish between them can do a Charles Martel on Eurabia.
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 08:24 PM
~~~~~

I don't know about the Slavs, but I can't figure out where you get the idea that the Irish will pull a Charles Martel. They couldn't unite enough to free themselves from the Brits.

They've been secularizing at an alarming rate (trying to catch up to the continent no doubt) and were the first country to legalize gay marriage. There is a large movement to legalize abortion. And they are all about cultural equivalence and diversity! Plus, they love them some curry.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 08:56 PM (HiDrR)

354 Peaches

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 08:56 PM (E12vF)

355 344
Peaches! You're back! Are you Finnish?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:50 PM (0wem/)
Gawd, no! No offense to the Finns but, gawd, no.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 08:56 PM (EgOr3)

356 America has three parties now: the identity politics left, mostly crazy people ready for violence at any time, the statists, mostly establishment GOP and Democrat career poliricians, and those Americans believing Constitutionally delegated power constraints should be enforced because the Feds will otherwise fuck it all up (including, especially, security).

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at June 25, 2017 08:57 PM (ylUqT)

357 Gawd, no! No offense to the Finns but, gawd, no.
Posted by: Peaches at June




good to know.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:57 PM (0wem/)

358 "Yeah, I know, what's the point of your own planet if you have to deal with the same old shit?"

My terms for being a Martian colonist: put me in charge. Otherwise, no.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 08:57 PM (n1dE4)

359 nothing pisses off the Finns more than having to quit drinking and get themselves out of their sad to have to go kill russians.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:48 PM (0wem/)

***

Very accurate. During the Winter War the Finns used to ski around at all hours and weather, pick off a Russian officer, non com or two (usually by slitting their throats) and then prop them up along roads, freezing them into position with an arm outstretched pointing the way back to Russia ~ so the Russian troops would see them as they advanced. hen they would ski home, drink some aquavit, make love to their ultra hot wives in front of a roaring fire and sleep like a log. (OK I may have embellished little but you get the idea) I would NOT screw with the Finns ~ at least not on their home soil.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 25, 2017 08:58 PM (UOr6C)

360 Also, if you like sharpshooting, look up Simuna Hayha.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 08:58 PM (hQWkm)

361 who threatened you with death? like I am going to
start rubbing people out just because they are difficult. yeesh.
difference between easy access and no access.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:55 PM (0wem/)

Perhaps I misunderstood the comment about oxygen.
Ok, come over here for some sugar...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 08:59 PM (Id9+8)

362 The big hero in WWII Russia was the weather.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 08:55 PM (xAvrH)



General Winter was about the only thing keeping the Germans from getting to the Moscow in '41.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (auHtY)

363 I went to a dinner once in Lantana, Florida.

Finnish Dance Hall. It was like stepping back in time to the 40's. Black and white pictures of uniformed Finnish Army heroes who killed many commies and no one was shy about explaining how good it was to kill Russians. Finns are proud of their military history.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (5VlCp)

364 America is not too far behind Yerp in the stupid department.

Posted by: Eromero


The citizens are waking up. But the politicians all seem to get bitten by the stupid zombie right after we elect them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (xAvrH)

365 Very accurate. During the Winter War the Finns used to ski around at all hours and weather, pick off a Russian officer, non com or two (usually by slitting their throats) and then prop them up along roads, freezing them into position with an arm outstretched pointing the way back to Russia ~ so the Russian troops would see them as they advanced. hen they would ski home, drink some aquavit, make love to their ultra hot wives in front of a roaring fire and sleep like a log. (OK I may have embellished little but you get the idea) I would NOT screw with the Finns ~ at least not on their home soil.
Posted by: Publius Redux at June




well who wants to go up against some insane group of people that thinks cross country skiing is fun? or at least not punishment.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (0wem/)

366 Gawd, no! No offense to the Finns but, gawd, no.

Posted by: Peaches at June




Jumalauta!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (Id9+8)

367 >>> General Winter was about the only thing keeping the Germans from getting to the Moscow in '41.

** ahem **

Posted by: Autumn Rains at June 25, 2017 09:01 PM (jw2Xw)

368 @353 i-ei

You should know that the first item on the agenda for an irish republican society is 'the split'. However, if sufficiently threatened, i think they could pull it together and stay independent...the ones who wanted to be so are, the ones who didn't, aren't. Namely, nationalists and unionists, chalk and cheese.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 09:01 PM (Eynls)

369 348 I can't ever remember the guy's name so I just Bing 'white death'.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_
Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2017 08:52 PM (jw2Xw)

And you beat me to it. Although I thought it was Simuna, not Simo...

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:02 PM (hQWkm)

370 The Russians didn't account for the ammo vote.

Other than that they were fine.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 09:02 PM (3myMJ)

371 Perhaps I misunderstood the comment about oxygen.
Ok, come over here for some sugar...
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




meh, forget it, supplies are in the corner. help yourself.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:02 PM (0wem/)

372 Peaches! You're back! Are you Finnish?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 08:50 PM (0wem/)
Gawd, no! No offense to the Finns but, gawd, no.

Posted by: Peaches


Don't worry Peaches. Ima let you Finnish.

Posted by: Kanye West at June 25, 2017 09:03 PM (xAvrH)

373 But you need to see the whole picture with this car.

It need more than a just a radiator repair. There's the strut mount, I mentioned. To do everything "right," it needs two new struts...and then an alignment.

Who know, maybe it needs lower ball joints, and tie rod ends.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 08:03 PM (4DEJp)




Do you love her?
Does she love you?
Is she nice to you?

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 09:04 PM (vlVF/)

374 General Winter was about the only thing keeping the Germans from getting to the Moscow in '41.

** ahem **
Posted by: Autumn Rains at June 25, 2017 09:01 PM (jw2Xw)



Yeah there was that too good old rasputitsa. (You said tits). Some forward thinking by the Germans and once the Ribbentrop/Molotov deal was signed the Germans should have offered to start building some autobahns for the Russians. Made it easier to get around later

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)

375 Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) headlined the start of a campaign against Republican efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare Saturday night before some 1,000 people in the Pittsburgh Convention Center, calling the GOP proposals an unconscionable "moral outrage."

"What kind of a country are we if anyone can come before you and talk about cutting health care for children with disabilities in order to give tax breaks to the richest people on earth?"



Tell us again, Comrade Bernie about how sorry you are that one of your flunkies tried to kill a bunch of Republicans.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 09:08 PM (auHtY)

376 As Europe becomes accustomed to one level of violence, the terrorists will seek to up the ante, improve their game. When they decide to get clever, they will turn to sabotage. Take out a few rail lines, destroy some power plants, blow up a key bridge or two, and everyone in Europe will feel pain. But the real strategy is to simply out breed the natives and win the long game.

Posted by: IanDeal at June 25, 2017 09:08 PM (JhHPx)

377 366
Jumalauta!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM

Are your ancestors from the Duchy of Finland, by any chance?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:09 PM (hQWkm)

378 So I just watched the 10 best punk rock bands, what are your favorite bands?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:09 PM (E12vF)

379 well who wants to go up against some insane group of people that thinks cross country skiing is fun? or at least not punishment.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (0wem/)

***

Hey ~ I like cross country skiing. As long as the course is really pretty ~ there's one in Stowe Vermont that is so beautiful it's like you are in some sort of Narnia like realm ~ simply beautiful.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 25, 2017 09:10 PM (UOr6C)

380 Where have all the Prussians gone?
Long time passing.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 09:10 PM (vlVF/)

381 General Winter was about the only thing keeping the Germans from getting to the Moscow in '41.



** ahem **

Posted by: Autumn Rains at June 25, 2017 09:01 PM (jw2Xw)



And thousands of American planes, tanks and jeeps and millions of bullets. And uniforms, food and medical supplies.
And British intelligence.

The more I read about Russia's conduct in the run-up and during WW2, the more I realize what shitheads they are. They didn't deserve to be on the winning side.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 09:11 PM (89VjS)

382 big hero in WWII Russia was the weather."

Two distant relatives to the mouse family died on the Archangel run....

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 09:11 PM (MINbv)

383 Hey ~ I like cross country skiing. As long as the course is really pretty ~ there's one in Stowe Vermont that is so beautiful it's like you are in some sort of Narnia like realm ~ simply beautiful.
Posted by: Publius Redux at June




cross country skiing is work. have don lots of it, never because I wanted to. snowshoeing is a far better way to get around, especially if there is not a trail.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:11 PM (0wem/)

384 meh, forget it, supplies are in the corner. help yourself.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:02 PM (0wem/)

Might as well stay on Earth and take my chances.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:12 PM (Id9+8)

385 General Mannerheim, who led the fight for independence from the Russians after WWI & fought them again in WWII, was the only person awarded by both the Central Powers and the Allies in WWI.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:13 PM (ANIFC)

386 @380

Prussians became East Germans. You could search for Prussians till you're blue in the face. Behold, the mighty works of socialism!

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 09:14 PM (Eynls)

387 Might as well stay on Earth and take my chances.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June




take it up with the aliens, if they ever come back. in other news, two suns, 90 degrees.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:14 PM (0wem/)

388 376 But the real strategy is to simply out breed the natives and win the long game.
Posted by: IanDeal at June 25, 2017 09:08 PM

I wonder if they realize that at the end of the long game, they'll be living less like current Europe and more like the cesspools they left? Hard to have a great neighborhood if you torch your neighbors' houses to roast your own marshmallows.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:14 PM (hQWkm)

389 ooh. we should make smores tomorrow.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:15 PM (0wem/)

390 Are your ancestors from the Duchy of Finland, by any chance?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:09 PM (hQWkm)

No, Russia and Germany.
But I can hold my liquor and I do carry a knife in my boot, so there's that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:15 PM (Id9+8)

391 389 ooh. we should make smores tomorrow.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:15 PM

Over the burning neighborhood?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:16 PM (hQWkm)

392 take it up with the aliens, if they ever come back. in other news, two suns, 90 degrees.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:14 PM (0wem/)

I like it hot.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:17 PM (Id9+8)

393 390 Are your ancestors from the Duchy of Finland, by any chance?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:09 PM

No, Russia and Germany.
But I can hold my liquor and I do carry a knife in my boot, so there's that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:15 PM

That's plenty!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:17 PM (hQWkm)

394 ooh. we should make smores tomorrow.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:15 PM

Over the burning neighborhood?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June




meh, screw them. they are on the other side of the moat. we will do them over stove and watch the hood from the roof deck.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:18 PM (0wem/)

395 That's plenty!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 25, 2017 09:17 PM (hQWkm)


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 25, 2017 09:18 PM (Id9+8)

396 http://www.foxnews.com/us
/2017/06/25/john-kasich-ohio-governors-website-
hacked-with-pro-isis-propaganda.html

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 09:19 PM (vlVF/)

397 http://www.foxnews.com/us
/2017/06/25/john-kasich-ohio-governors-website-
hacked-with-pro-isis-propaganda.html
Posted by: gNewt at June




that's what he says.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:19 PM (0wem/)

398 Is it not time for the muezzin to give the call for Al-NOOD?

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 09:20 PM (Eynls)

399 Iridium says that all ten satellites launched today are healthy.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 09:21 PM (sdi6R)

400 Lesson learned:

It you're gonna mess w/chit in the ME make it short, sharp and very discreet. Libya is the model of winning v Iraq losing. Competent S.D. necessary for that, though.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at June 25, 2017 09:22 PM (PsVKW)

401
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) headlined the start of a campaign against Republican efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare Saturday night before some 1,000 people in the Pittsburgh Convention Center, calling the GOP proposals an unconscionable "moral outrage."

California just dropped Bernie's wet dream of single payer, at least for a while. They just couldn't figure out how to pay for it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 09:22 PM (IqV8l)

402 There's no sweeter sound than the call to al-nood.

Posted by: Braaaaaaaaaaki at June 25, 2017 09:22 PM (vlVF/)

403 So I just watched the 10 best punk rock bands, what are your favorite bands?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:09 PM (E12vF)



My favorite punk bands would be The Clash, Judas Priest, and The Knack. Favorite hair bands, VanHalen, Great White, and The Scorpians.
Favorite 90'band, Guns And Roses, Stone Temple Pilates. Since then, maybe The Black Keys. Favorite of all time, the Moody Blues (who still aren't in the Rock HOF.

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 09:24 PM (lIZQs)

404 @402

The is only one ONT, but who shall be its prophet?

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 25, 2017 09:25 PM (Eynls)

405
Stone Temple Pilates.

That's an exercise regime performed by Betty Rubble.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 09:26 PM (IqV8l)

406 403
My favorite punk bands would be The Clash, Judas Priest, and The Knack.
Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 09:24 PM (lIZQs)


I don't even know where to start with that. I got nothin'.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

407
FOX played as bumper music, right before Columbo came on, Hank, Jr's "Buck Naked". It wasn't the actual Hank Jr version, but some no-name cover (cheaper I guess).

I had forgotten that, but it was funny, with lyrics such as

"Buck naked in my birthday suit,
Buck naked and I don't give a hoot
.................................
Buck naked like Adam and Eve,
Buck naked like the monkeys in the trees."

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 09:29 PM (8O3HH)

408 Flying Burrito Brothers

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 09:30 PM (vlVF/)

409 Stone Temple Pilates.
------
That's a stretch.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:30 PM (ANIFC)

410 You could search for Prussians till you're blue in the face. Behold, the mighty works of socialism!

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron


Prussian blue?

Posted by: Bob Ross at June 25, 2017 09:33 PM (xAvrH)

411 Do you people even know what punk rock is?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:34 PM (6Ll1u)

412
The Prussians invented prussic acid, didn't they?

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 25, 2017 09:34 PM (8O3HH)

413 with this title was sure this thread would have reference to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGtf9QfITQw

vid

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:34 PM (0wem/)

414 Isn't 't what was once Prussia part of Poland now? I imagine there are some Germans still living in the area....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 09:35 PM (89VjS)

415 Do you people even know what punk rock is?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:34 PM (6Ll1u)

=======

I know, right?

Posted by: The Ramones at June 25, 2017 09:35 PM (QoDdh)

416 So, was East Prussia east of East Germany?

Posted by: bergerbilder at June 25, 2017 09:35 PM (lIZQs)

417 well rammstein is about as punk as it gets

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:36 PM (0wem/)

418 so prussians does not stand for prancing russians?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (0wem/)

419 411 Do you people even know what punk rock is?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 09:34 PM (6Ll1u)


Threadwinner.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (sdi6R)

420 ont's up

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (EgOr3)

421 john-kasich-ohio-governors-website-
hacked-with-pro-isis-propaganda


Funny. He let in so many, including the OSU machete/car attack guy, you'd think they'd love him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 09:37 PM (xAvrH)

422 No, Russia and Germany.
--------
Business before pleasure.

Posted by: just the punchline at June 25, 2017 09:42 PM (nlbfN)

423 I last saw any Europe (Frankfort) when rotating home from Camp Arifjan in 2005. But saw a bunch in the 60's on Med cruises. Glad I did it back then.

Posted by: Eromero at June 25, 2017 09:43 PM (zLDYs)

424 Libya is the model of winning

Posted by: Bill Wynn at June 25, 2017 09:22 PM (PsVKW)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 10:29 PM (LTHVh)

Food Thread: When I Use A Word, It Means Just What I Choose It To Mean -- Neither More Nor Less

fancy chef.jpg

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Afternoon Food Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous (and naked under their aprons), knives are always sharp and never used to cut tofu or kale, and special snowflakes starve to death. And unlike other AoSHQ threads, the Sunday Afternoon Food Thread is so hoity-toity, we have a book! And bacon...

Or at least we will have a book, if you get off your asses and submit some recipes (and just once, could you color inside the lines please? We have rules!) And if Weasel and Bluebell and the rest of the reprobates and voluptuaries and debauchees (who claim to be assisting this grand project but really are just stealing the booze samples), put down the bourbon bottle and actually get something done.

******

Now that we have spent weeks touting the Moron Cookbook, nagging you to refine and submit Aunt Tillie's recipe for rutabaga mash with chopped chicken feet, it is time to discuss the inescapable reality that recipes are not received wisdom, that they are, at least for people who are comfortable in the kitchen, guidelines and ideas, not rigid and immutable laws.

Sort of like the US Constitution is for liberals.

I'll give you an example. Ina Garten has a Guacamole Salad that she has featured on one of her shows and in Barefoot Contessa: At Home. It's really good, and can be prepared mostly ahead of time. But...and you knew that was coming...she calls for yellow pepper and red onion in the salad. The pepper is sweet, and to my palate adds nothing else, so I swap it out with sauteed corn, which is just as sweet (maybe even sweeter) but has a flavor and texture that seems to go better with the dish. And those red onions? They can be quite strongly flavored, so I cut back a bit and rinse them in cold water before adding them to the salad. That cuts the sharpness just enough for most people. And I salt and drain the tomatoes after I cut them. Actually, that's what I almost always do with tomatoes.

Ina Garten has real talent, especially when sticking to comfort food. She took a good but sometimes tired old standard (guacamole) and turned it into something fun and fresh and absolutely worth trying out. I don't have the imagination to be able to do that kind of cooking, but I know what I like, and swapping a few ingredients to please MY palate is well within my culinary skills.

The point of all this blather is that even if you aren't comfortable creating your own recipes from the contents of your larder and your brain, make someone else's recipe once, and then the next time make it your own! If that means twisting it and massaging it into something unique...so be it. The only rule is that the result is pleasing to your palate.

One of the advantages of the internet (aside from pron) is that most recipes can be found in printable format. What I do is print a new recipe, and as I cook I annotate, so the next time I will know what works and what doesn't. It also makes it easier to read; if it is long or complex I will tape it to the cabinet above my main workspace, so I don't have to keep turning toward an open cookbook and splattering the kitchen with a carelessly held spoon. Eventually I will correct the saved copy and make it my own (with credit to the original writer).

By the way, this advice applies to most recipes, but be careful with baking and candy-making. Those recipes are black magic and cannot be toyed with, lest you summon demons from the deepest recesses of the earth.

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Thread Winner
I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.
-- fly gal

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Commenter "Red Mind Blue State" recommended this website to me, and I am getting a huge kick out of it.
An alarming trend has swept across America and the world. As people begin to adopt a new "healthier" lifestyle, they find themselves willing to acquire the dietary habits of rodents and to compromise ingredients in some of the most sumptuous recipes in the world. Suddenly, supermarkets are inundated with items boasting their "fat free" or "lite" quality. Suddenly, everyone is convinced that if they don't cut out the fat and the cholesterol, they will die of a heart attack by the age of 32. Suddenly, people are feeling guilty every time they eat something that actually has flavor...

Can you see why? This is great stuff. It's a pathetically badly designed site, but don't let that bother you too much. Hell...you're reading AoSHQ with its cutting-edge 1995 technology,so I am sure you will love it at "Eat Dangerously."
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I found this recipe in People magazine a long time ago in a doctor's office far far away. My first attempt worked well, but I thought there was too much cayenne pepper, so I have modified it somewhat. It is imperative that you use a thermometer, unless you are an accomplished candy maker and can handle the incantations necessary to do this with the ridiculous manual tests for sugar candy hardness that were created by Morgoth.
Cayenne Peanut Brittle

Ingredients

  • Vegetable oil or cooking spray (or butter)
  • 2 cups sugar
  • 1/2 cup corn syrup
  • 1/4 cup unsalted butter
  • 1 ½ tsp Kosher salt
  • ½ tsp cayenne pepper
  • 1 tsp baking soda
  • 3 cups salted dry-roasted peanuts

Preparation:
In a heavy medium-sized pot on medium heat, add the sugar, corn syrup, butter, salt and Cayenne pepper. Mix well until the sugar dissolves.

Bring the mixture to a gentle boil. Regulate the heat so that it continues to warm but doesn’t splatter molten sugar all over you. This is not the time to be wearing assless chaps. You are shooting for a temperature of 300°F It is tempting to stir the mixture, but try to resist the temptation.

When you reach 300°F remove the pot from the heat and add the baking soda over the mixture. It’s going to froth and bubble, so you will feel like a real cook and a bit of a wizard. Add the peanuts and stir completely using a oiled or buttered spoon or spatula.

Pour the mixture onto a greased or oiled baking sheet and using your greased spatula spread the brittle out. The bigger the baking sheet, the thinner the brittle, so choose one for your desired thickness.

Cool until…um…it’s cool, then break it up into whatever sized pieces you like.

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1 The funky music has started!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:55 PM (sdi6R)

2 Sorry for the stompy first, CBD.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:56 PM (sdi6R)

3 Hat trick?

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:58 PM (sdi6R)

4 W00t!

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:58 PM (sdi6R)

5 Ace!

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:58 PM (sdi6R)

6 That's the second time I've done that in two days.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:59 PM (sdi6R)

7 I can keep on going like this.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:59 PM (sdi6R)

8 Eight

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:59 PM (sdi6R)

9 All of my recipes are from Betty Crocker which I will bet is copyrighted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (mpXpK)

10 Nine

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (sdi6R)

11 Sheesh, finally! And, except for the recipe (which I would never make), I read the whole thing. Where's my merit badge?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (EgOr3)

12 Thank you for the cookbook plug, Lord Acton.

And I agree with you completely about annotating recipes. I do it all the time.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (1O9i3)

13 All of my recipes are from Betty Crocker which I will bet is copyrighted.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (mpXpK)
You can still submit them with an attribution, Vic.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:01 PM (EgOr3)

14 BBQ is better in NY than in Texas???!

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 04:02 PM (gcme+)

15 SpaceX is live, targeting a launch at 4:25 ET from Vandenberg, CA.

I heard CaliGirl say she was going to try to watch it. I hope she's there.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:02 PM (sdi6R)

16 13 You can still submit them with an attribution, Vic.


Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:01 PM (EgOr3)

I thought the intent here was to put them in an AOS cookbook. I don't think you can do that even with attribution if you put the whole recipe in there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:03 PM (mpXpK)

17 Well, Vic, that was my understanding but bluebell is here and she can clarify.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:04 PM (EgOr3)

18 17
Well, Vic, that was my understanding but bluebell is here and she can clarify.


Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:04 PM (EgOr3)

I can understand the "Aunt Milli" thing and attribution but I don't think it would fly with actual published and copyrighted material.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

19 I just submitted three recipes - two main courses & a beverage.

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ANIFC)

20 I haven't submitted any original recipes because they are somewhat complicated for the way most people cook today. Do it anyway? Fried pies, almond bars, steak and gravy, stuffed ham?

Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 04:07 PM (LfJIn)

21 Lord Acton

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 04:00 PM (1O9i3)

And don't you forget it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:09 PM (wYseH)

22 I found a recipe for a buffalo cauliflower....instead of cooking, I leave it raw. Would that be of interest?

Posted by: Euro at June 25, 2017 04:09 PM (3T/hG)

23 What up, Humpty?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 04:09 PM (LTHVh)

24 I have a recipe that nearly got me kicked out of my church congregation:

Melange a Trois
The Forbidden Three Bean Salad

It's a three bean salad with some chilis, a bit of crushed red pepper, and some hot oil. Nothing too spicy, but more than we Lutherans are used too.


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Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 04:10 PM (uBKPR)

25 I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (W78yZ)

26 It's really foggy at Vandenberg, and it's early afternoon there.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (sdi6R)

27 Guess what? My kitchen sink is finally fixed!!!!!

*does Snoopy dance of joy*

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (hMwEB)

28 Melange a Trois


Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 04:10 PM (uBKPR)

That is absolutely fantastic!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:12 PM (wYseH)

29 I haven't submitted any original recipes because they are somewhat complicated for the way most people cook today. Do it anyway? Fried pies, almond bars, steak and gravy, stuffed ham?
Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 04:07 PM (LfJIn)
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Yes, please! Recipes will most likely be edited for space and clarity, but go ahead and submit them and if we can use them, we will.

Everyone, the rules for what you can submit and how to do it are all on the website Weasel created, and I'd rather not clog up this thread by repeating them, so if you are interested, just click my nic or CBD's blue link on the sidebar.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:13 PM (sBOL1)

30 Melange a Trois


Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 04:10 PM (uBKPR)

That is absolutely fantastic!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:12 PM (wYseH)
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It doesn't mean what you think it does, Dildo.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:14 PM (sBOL1)

31 Phil Donahue sounded baked on Reliable Sources. Hit a lot of nutty notes!

Posted by: Very Undude at June 25, 2017 04:14 PM (2X7pN)

32 29 Everyone, the rules for what you can submit and how
to do it are all on the website Weasel created, and I'd rather not clog
up this thread by repeating them, so if you are interested, just click
my nic or CBD's blue link on the sidebar.



Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:13 PM (sBOL1)

What about published and copyrighted material from Betty Crocker?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:15 PM (mpXpK)

33 >>Guess what? My kitchen sink is finally fixed!!!!!



*does Snoopy dance of joy*

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale

Plumber?

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (/Nite)

34 It's covered on the website, Vic - have a look. It's up to you if you want to submit.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

35 I for one think that the mention of food turns some people unbelievably stupid. One of my friends posted some video on FB positively gushing over how Aldi is going 100% organic. YAY!!! She's celebrating making produce shopping needlessly expensive!!! YAY!!! I can go on with other BS: GMOs (with us for about 6000 years at least), "clean eating", and so on. Worst of all is the sheer preaching behind it...

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (eq0EU)

36 I thought Phil Donahue was dead.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (89T5c)

37 That is one thing I love about recipes online: the comments!

Once you filter out the silly comments (the ones where they replace 1/2 - 3/4 of the listed ingredients, or the "I can't believe there's so much X!!" without having made it), there are some great suggestions for tweaks or minor substitutions.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (NOIQH)

38 34
It's covered on the website, Vic - have a look. It's up to you if you want to submit.





Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

All it said was to give attribution, but I am not sure you can do that with published and copyrighted material if you include the whole recipe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 04:18 PM (mpXpK)

39 Cor blimey, I willowed meself!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 04:18 PM (0mRoj)

40 >>I thought Phil Donahue was dead.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

I just smell that way.

Posted by: Phil at June 25, 2017 04:18 PM (/Nite)

41 First stage separation, second stage ignition, and the new grid fins have deployed!

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

42 Once you filter out the silly comments (the ones where they replace 1/2 - 3/4 of the listed ingredients, or the "I can't believe there's so much X!!" without having made it), there are some great suggestions for tweaks or minor substitutions.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (NOIQH)
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One of my favorite recipes that I found online had a comment below it from a guy that said, "I made this for Fourth of July and I was drunk and it still turned out great!"

So which one of you morons was it?

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:19 PM (sBOL1)

43 BBQ is better in NY than in Texas???!"

Why yes, yes it is. Furthermore, everything is soooo much better in NY that no New Yorker should ever consider even flying over the slightest portion of Texas, lest one become contaminated.

Think that'll keep 'em out?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 25, 2017 04:19 PM (MINbv)

44 25
I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (W78yZ)
I know it's early but I'm calling thread-winner on that, fly gal!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:21 PM (EgOr3)

45 Vic, I will just say this and that's it.

If you look up copyright law, lists of ingredients cannot be copyrighted. Exact directions can. So you would need to change the wording of the directions, as well as give us the source material.

If you're not comfortable with that, that's okay.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:21 PM (sBOL1)

46 I thought Phil Donahue was dead.

Just his career.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 04:22 PM (LTHVh)

47 I know it's early but I'm calling thread-winner on that, fly gal!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:21 PM (EgOr3)

+1

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (wYseH)

48 One of my coworkers brought in zucchini so I snagged some and made this tasty pasta salad from The Pioneer Woman:

http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/pasta-salad-with-tomatoes-zucchini-and-feta/

It has a nice lemony dressing and I like the tanginess of the feta.

The kale hegemony marches on. I found rotini made with kale, spinach, and other dark green veggies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (QGoUX)

49 Thanks Bluebell. My wife is going to go over them and edit them a bit before submission. The almond cake is from her fancy pants family. Mine made fried pies.

Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (LfJIn)

50 Looks like a good first stage landing, but it doesn't look like I won the Landing Bingo.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (sdi6R)

51 Plumber?
Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 04:17 PM (/Nite)

Nope - Drain King! (bladder thingy attached to garden hose)

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B0000CBJ66

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at June 25, 2017 04:24 PM (hMwEB)

52 The almond cake is from her fancy pants family. Mine made fried pies.
Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (LfJIn)
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I'd happily marry into either side of your family. Don't tell my husband, though.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:24 PM (sBOL1)

53 >>One of my coworkers brought in zucchini so I snagged some and made this tasty pasta salad from The Pioneer Woman...


ooh, that looks good!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 04:26 PM (NOIQH)

54 One of my favorite recipes that I found online had a
comment below it from a guy that said, "I made this for Fourth of July
and I was drunk and it still turned out great!"



So which one of you morons was it?





Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:19 PM (sBOL1)
Let's go with the shorter list . . . who among us has not done that?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:27 PM (EgOr3)

55 I use a Electric Vertical Nonstick Easy Quick Egg Cooker
because who wouldn't want cooked eggs to squeeze out looking like a long pale yellow dog turd?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 25, 2017 04:27 PM (l4aLi)

56 Well, I have to get off my lazy ass and contribute my (and Missus Skookumchuk's) recipes to the Moronic Cookbook. The Harvest Stew, the Chocolate Chili (sans carrots, sorry everybody), the Apple and Parsnip Soup, the Basque Cake (only 1,000 calories per slice) and the Polish Mazurka cookies.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 04:28 PM (QcWqC)

57 stuff ham?

a recipe to make Lena Dunham? or is that just stuffed fat back?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 25, 2017 04:28 PM (ILitO)

58 You can tone down red onion by soaking it in a little vinegar before you use it. Kind of pickle them a little bit. Jacques Pepin adds some boiling water to his red onions. I tried that once but you end up with ... boiled onion smell and taste. Gah!

And I always de-seed tomatoes. The seeds are bitter and I don't like all that extra liquid. It can really mess up a recipe.

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 25, 2017 04:29 PM (dargh)

59 I use a Electric Vertical Nonstick Easy Quick Egg Cooker

because who wouldn't want cooked eggs to squeeze out looking like a long pale yellow dog turd?



Posted by: Under Fire at June 25, 2017 04:27 PM (l4aLi)
But super useful for those times when you want eggs but just don't have 3-4 hours to invest in cooking them? {eyeroll}

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:29 PM (EgOr3)

60 Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (W78yZ)


Heh......

I just put that comment in the post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:29 PM (wYseH)

61 I do love Humpty Dumpty's view of language, but only for its attitude, not for its utility. "words do what I tell them"

Oh, and by the way, for a motto for the cook book: "Politics is the art of the possible, cooking is the art of the available"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 04:29 PM (mkDpn)

62 Ina Garten is no Sandra Lee. Doesn't even make a half-way decent Tablescape(TM).

/s

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:30 PM (PY9jH)

63 Looks like a good second stage orbit. Now into a 40 minute coast phase before another short engine burn and the deployment of the 10 satellites.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:30 PM (sdi6R)

64 Basque Cake (only 1,000 calories per slice)
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Sounds a little lite for our cookbook.



Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:31 PM (sBOL1)

65 knives are always sharp and never used to cut tofu or kale, and special snowflakes starve to death.

Speaking of tofu. I was looking over a selection of deli salads and there was one that had a curry dressing. It had squares of some vegetarian crap in it that was probably some sort of tofu thing. The rest of it looked really good and I like curry, so a bought some to take home for lunch.

The point of all this is, the rest of the salad was really good, but those squares of "tofu whatever" were as awful as you would think. What the hell is wrong with vegetarians? I think they're sick in the head.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 25, 2017 04:33 PM (+lVUW)

66 Don't forget the license in the preface to the book:

These recipes are supplied as is, without any warranty, either express or implied, including the implied warranties of edibility, or not causing indigestion.

Posted by: Richrd M. Stallman at June 25, 2017 04:33 PM (xAvrH)

67 Bluebell - well, it all depends on the size of the slices...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 04:33 PM (QcWqC)

68 I just pulled two loaves of chocolate peanut butter banana bread out of the oven. Once they've cooled, will drizzle with peanut butter frosting.

I may keep a piece for breakfast tomorrow before sending both loaves with husband to his office.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH)

69 Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 04:07 PM (LfJIn)

Lester, I'd consider it a personal favor it you did the steak and gravy one. Mmmmmmmm . . . gravy!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:35 PM (EgOr3)

70 I just put that comment in the post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 04:29 PM (wYseH)

Thanks, CBD! :-)

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:37 PM (W78yZ)

71 Bluebell, I was going to add a recipe for apple chutney, but it makes 6 pints and requires water bath canning, and that was a bridge too far.

So I will stand on what I have entered, unless I can get my GF to disgorge her Korean gochujang recipe, which I think is a real winner.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 04:37 PM (mkDpn)

72 There may also be Mrs. Skookumchuk's sacred, handed down over generations, apple pie recipe.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 04:38 PM (QcWqC)

73 Corn in guacamole? My word.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 04:39 PM (vlVF/)

74 73
Corn in guacamole? My word.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 04:39 PM (vlVF/)
Yeah . . . somebody had to say it.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:40 PM (EgOr3)

75 Idiot Proof Brisket.......

3/4 cup dark brown sugar
3/4 cup chili sauce
3/4 cup catsup
3/4 packet of dry onion soup mix
1 beer
3,4 or 5 pound brisket
About a dozen small red taters
About a pound of baby carrots

Preheat oven to 325....place brisket in large pan fat side up. Arrange taters and carrots around beef. Mix all other ingredients together and pour over beef/veggies.

Bake covered for 3 and a half hours basting once in a while.
Remove let stand uncovered about 20 minutes.
Slice brisket against the grain and return to pan with veggies and gravy.
Eat.
Your welcome.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 04:41 PM (5VlCp)

76 Hi there. A little late to the game but can I still submit a recipe for the cookbook?
I've got a delish steamed one I'd love to share!

Posted by: gynneth paltrow at June 25, 2017 04:41 PM (RiTnx)

77 Guacamole is avocado, salt and fresh lime juice. Tomato and corn is salsa. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Posted by: Monkfish at June 25, 2017 04:43 PM (7ciu+)

78 I would love a fried pie recipe! I submitted two. Instructions for the brownies were non-existant but I think I figured it out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (Lqy/e)

79 Roasting some snow crab legs with garlic butter for tonight's supper. The Mr. is firing up a steak for himself.


I think next weekend I'm going to fry up a batch of hot wings and then make creme brulee for dessert. Because why not.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (/o9Qk)

80 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH)

I sure hope that recipe is going to be in the cookbook!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (gwPgz)

81 I don't follow techno music, but the music SpaceX uses on their webcasts is pretty neat.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (sdi6R)

82 >>>25 I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.

that reminds me of the lady who'd bring out a 2 liter of 7-Up and and fifth of vodka for everyone...when you're at a roping and "thirsty" it gets the job done!

Posted by: concrete girl at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (EqvVS)

83 Hi there. A little late to the game but can I still submit a recipe for the cookbook?
I've got a delish steamed one I'd love to share!
Posted by: gynneth paltrow at June 25, 2017 04:41 PM (RiTnx)
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***REJECTED***

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (sBOL1)

84 OK, bluebell, now that I'm back from my church picnic, you got two more recipes. I even threw in something Greek, inspired as I was by lunch. I'll see if I can get in a few more during the week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 04:46 PM (n6g6t)

85 Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:40 PM (EgOr3)

Pro Tip: It tastes better when you call it maize!

Posted by: Lizawatha Warren at June 25, 2017 04:46 PM (gwPgz)

86 (I submitted two recipes, not fried pie recipes. I don't think I have recovered from the stress of submitting them yet!)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2017 04:46 PM (Lqy/e)

87 Posted by: gynneth paltrow at June 25, 2017 04:41 PM (RiTnx)

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***REJECTED***





Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (sBOL1)
I would consider it if she titled the recipe "Bad Clams"

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:46 PM (EgOr3)

88 Thanks for the submissions, everyone!

I'm over on the side here finishing tabulating the different categories of what we've received so far, as of this morning. I'll be back in a bit.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:47 PM (sBOL1)

89 Had a Creole Platter last night at our favorite seafood restaurant: grilled andouille sausage and two blackened catfish fillets on top of a bed of red beans and rice, all slathered with etouffee roux. Superb!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 04:47 PM (uDQyq)

90 ***REJECTED***

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (sBOL1)


***REINSTATED***

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge in Grass Skirt and Coconut Bra at June 25, 2017 04:48 PM (PduNE)

91 I just pulled two loaves of chocolate peanut butter banana bread out of the oven. Once they've cooled, will drizzle with peanut butter frosting.

I may keep a piece for breakfast tomorrow before sending both loaves with husband to his office.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH)
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Your husband works at Graceland?

Also, supply recipe STAT.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 04:48 PM (QGoUX)

92 >>>What about published and copyrighted material from Betty Crocker?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

go to
recipes@moroncookbook.com
for info

Posted by: concrete girl at June 25, 2017 04:48 PM (EqvVS)

93 bbq better in ny... ?

in the last thread some impatient soul posted a recipe for peruvian green sauce. well, there's a peruvian restaurant i can recommend in nyc called pio pio that has the best rotisserie chicken in the world. with that green sauce on the side.

try it if you're in the area.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 04:49 PM (WTSFk)

94 Eat What You Want And Die Like Man
bit.ly/2s6dielikeamanbit.ly/2s6dielikeaman
Belongs in the food thread and the book thread. I reccomend it.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 25, 2017 04:49 PM (xlzu7)

95 Need to send in the recipes for Mom's gruel and stone soup.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 04:51 PM (uDQyq)

96 Is there room for a popcorn recipe, bluebell? I learned how to make it on the stovetop, and it's better than a popcorn popper or the microwave.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:51 PM (sdi6R)

97
Eat What You Want And Die Like Man

Not a bad name for the cookbook. I love it!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:52 PM (EgOr3)

98 Stage 2 and the satellites are about over the South Pole now.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:53 PM (sdi6R)

99 98
Stage 2 and the satellites are about over the South Pole now.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:53 PM (sdi6R)






















Are you at Vandenberg?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:53 PM (EgOr3)

100 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 04:51 PM (uDQyq)

You had gruel?

We only had cold gravel!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2017 04:54 PM (gwPgz)

101 Ah, jeez, pixie. Ya punk.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:54 PM (EgOr3)

102 summon demons from the deepest recesses of the earth.

I forgot the cookie sheet on the rack below the cheapo frozen pizza for lunch the other day and got a nice smoke cloud. Spouted a few oaths too.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 04:54 PM (FhXTo)

103 And always remember, as James Beard said - "A gourmet who thinks of calories is like a tart who looks at her watch."

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 04:55 PM (QcWqC)

104
Pro Tip: It tastes better when you call it maize!
Posted by: Lizawatha Warren


Baby, I'm amaized at the way you love me all the time

Posted by: Paul McCartwheel at June 25, 2017 04:55 PM (IqV8l)

105 If I used Bob Evans Sausage and Ragu does it still count as a shakshuka?

Goy world problems.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

106 We dreamed of having cold gravel.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (LTHVh)

107 I forgot the cookie sheet on the rack below the
cheapo frozen pizza for lunch the other day and got a nice smoke cloud.
Spouted a few oaths too.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 04:54 PM (FhXTo)
I keep a sheet of heavy duty aluminum foil on the lower rack of my oven, always. Never needs washing and when it gets groty, you can just throw it out. No need to remember anything.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (EgOr3)

108 I have a kind of recipe for spaghetti, but it uses a lot of pre-made ingredients so I don't know if it qualifies as an actual recipe or not.

It's kind of "half scratch" but it's pretty good. Not sure if I should submit...

Posted by: Max Power at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (QCc6B)

109 So is bluebell into submission or domination? Hard to tell from what she's been saying on this thread.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (0mRoj)

110 If I used Bob Evans Sausage and Ragu does it still count as a shakshuka?



Goy world problems.
Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (FhXTo)


Shake a couple of drops of Tabasco in there and you will be good to go.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 04:58 PM (mkDpn)

111 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH)



I sure hope that recipe is going to be in the cookbook!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2017 04:44 PM (gwPgz)


I'll submit it, along with the Hawaiian banana bread the 'ettes asked for a few years ago, tomorrow.

Still feeling awful from lingering bronchitis topped with a head cold.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (PY9jH)

112 99
Are you at Vandenberg?
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 04:53 PM (EgOr3)/i]

No, I'm in Pennsylvania and just watching on YouTube.

I heard CaliGirl say she might go out to watch the launch, though. I hope she got to see it.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (sdi6R)

113 Bluebell, when you get back, has there been submissions for mashed potatoes, rice, beans, or other basic staples?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (mkDpn)

114 Ugh!

Waiting in Toronto to get home. Flight has been delayed twice... two hours now.

Worse....every TV has the gay pride parade on.....but with warnings of graphic content every 15 minutes

I know that is OT, but pissing me off.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (cgzEU)

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (sdi6R)

116 I'll submit it, along with the Hawaiian banana bread the 'ettes asked for a few years ago, tomorrow.

Does it constantly overrule everything else in the kitchen?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM (0mRoj)

117 Speaking of food, any good restaurants in downtown Boston to recommend? I'll be there in July on a business trip and staying at the Hilton in the waterfront area.

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM (gcme+)

118 One link past the Balrog link was even better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIqdTnlZq30

"Who knew men in brown shirts could cause so much trouble?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:01 PM (QGoUX)

119 Hard to tell from what she's been saying on this thread.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 04:56 PM (0mRoj)

Oh, I think it's pretty clear what Bluebell is into.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:01 PM (wYseH)

120 When I get home will submit recipes.

If we did a practice recipe is it good? Or do I need to resubmit it?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at June 25, 2017 05:01 PM (cgzEU)

121 114 Ugh!

Waiting in Toronto to get home. Flight has been delayed twice... two hours now.

Worse....every TV has the gay pride parade on.....but with warnings of graphic content every 15 minutes

I know that is OT, but pissing me off.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at June 25, 2017 04:59 PM (cgzEU)

Nonsense. They're perfectly normal, decent, moral - if not morally superior - folks just like everyone else.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:02 PM (0mRoj)

122 92 go to

recipes@moroncookbook.com

for info

Posted by: concrete girl at June 25, 2017 04:48 PM (EqvVS)

i did

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 05:02 PM (mpXpK)

123 If you look up copyright law, lists of ingredients
cannot be copyrighted. Exact directions can. So you would need to
change the wording of the directions, as well as give us the source
material.



If you're not comfortable with that, that's okay.





Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 04:21 PM (sBOL1)

Wait...I was suppose to change the wording of the directions on recipes that came from another source? All the instructions said to do was 'list the source.' Not change the wording of the directions.

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 05:02 PM (Enq6K)

124 WTF is with all this beard hair in my mousse, Pierre???

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 05:02 PM (oVJmc)

125 I hope there are some Scandi recipes.
I've got a seafood tart you might like....

Posted by: SarahW at June 25, 2017 05:03 PM (Sp1NT)

126 Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM (gcme+)

Can't go wrong with Legal Seafood. There used to be a really great one over there but I can't remember the name and it's probably gone anyway.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:04 PM (EgOr3)

127 124 WTF is with all this beard hair in my mousse, Pierre???
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 05:02 PM (oVJmc)

That ain't beard hair.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:04 PM (0mRoj)

128 What would be useful in a cookbook would be how to avoid ruining things: lumpy, burnt, half-raw, etc.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:04 PM (uDQyq)

129 128 What would be useful in a cookbook would be how to avoid ruining things: lumpy, burnt, half-raw, etc.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:04 PM (uDQyq)

Mix more thoroughly.

Don't overcook.

Don't undercook.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:05 PM (0mRoj)

130 SpaceX is live again. Getting ready for second stage restart and satellite deployment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 05:05 PM (sdi6R)

131 Tami, I'll be taking care of that sort of thing during the editing process. Don't worry. That's why we are asking for sources (or that's at least one reason).

westminsterdogshow, if you submitted and got an auto-reply back, you don't need to resubmit.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:05 PM (sBOL1)

132 130 SpaceX is live again. Getting ready for second stage restart and satellite deployment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8
Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 05:05 PM (sdi6R)

*yawn*

Let me know when they get to SpaceXXX.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:06 PM (0mRoj)

133 I rear I may have contributed for the request to "color inside the lines."

I'm just following the adage, "If they give ruled paper, write the other way" (or I'm just an idiot).

Posted by: JT in KC at June 25, 2017 05:07 PM (FoSz+)

134 Okay, I've done a rough tabulation of most of the 400 recipes we have received thus far (I'm not able to see all of them yet). Keep in mind that some of these categories are a bit gender-fluid, but here we go:

Appetizers/Snacks: 49
Bread: 22
Drinks: 35
Desserts: 56
Main Dish: 127
Veggies/Sides: 40
For the Grill: 14
Other: 26

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:07 PM (sBOL1)

135 Worse....every TV has the gay pride parade on.....but with warnings of graphic content every 15 minutes

Well I hope you're showing your approval! Remember, if you're not always telling LGBTs how wonderful they are you're nothing but a hater with the blood of their suicides on your hands.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:08 PM (uDQyq)

136 seafood tart

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Princess Ariel at June 25, 2017 05:09 PM (79+/S)

137 Tami, I'll be taking care of that sort of thing during the editing
process. Don't worry. That's why we are asking for sources (or that's
at least one reason).

=======


You're going to go to all the sources listed with each recipe and see if the directions submitted are word for word the directions on the source site and if necessary rewrite them?



Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 05:09 PM (Enq6K)

138 #19 Josefistan. This is the AoS......Beverage IS THE MAIN COURSE.

Posted by: cicero kid at June 25, 2017 05:09 PM (vJE0v)

139 Other: 26
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???

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:10 PM (QGoUX)

140 So if you've tweaked/simplified/complexified a recipe whose source code seems to exist elsewhere, does the attribution requirement still hold?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 25, 2017 05:10 PM (gwPgz)

141 Corn guacamole is what my good eats.

Posted by: cicero kid at June 25, 2017 05:11 PM (vJE0v)

142 the 400 recipes we have received thus far (I'm not able to see all of them yet).

How many have hobo as an ingredient?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:11 PM (uDQyq)

143 For the Grill: 14


Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:07 PM (sBOL1)

Oh, you big fakers!

Where are the real men?

Real men grill!

They don't make desserts, they don't make veggies, they don't mince about and ask for dressing on the side!

THEY GRILL!

I am disgusted.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:11 PM (wYseH)

144 Well, obviously we do need a good lutefisk recipe, plus a seafood tart, maybe a good Scandi moose stew (with the juniper berries, et al.) plus a Tuppakaka... and a decent Salvadoran semita recipe.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 05:12 PM (QcWqC)

145 If you need help on dealing with burnt, salty or otherwise messed up food, An Everlasting Meal has a whole chapter on it.

An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace https://www.amazon.com/dp/143918187X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TMcuzbZY4JYM3

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2017 05:13 PM (Lqy/e)

146 They don't make desserts, they don't make veggies, they don't mince about and ask for dressing on the side!

THEY GRILL!

I am disgusted.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:11 PM (wYseH)
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So you're saying you want me to throw out all the recipes you submitted to me already, or what?

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:14 PM (sBOL1)

147 Speaking of food, any good restaurants in downtown
Boston to recommend? I'll be there in July on a business trip and
staying at the Hilton in the waterfront area.

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM


I concur on Legal Seafood. The waterfront area has a lot of really good places these days, but keep in mind that if you're in the Hilton between Broad and Batterymarch Streets, you're also an easy walk or a very quick cab ride of the North End and some phenomenal Italian restaurants.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 05:14 PM (n6g6t)

148 Eat What You Want And Die Like Man

Whatever happened to Steve Graham and his blog?

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

149 Tami, all I can say is I knew this would take longer than #twoweeks when I got myself into this.

Or, rather, I should say when Weasel got me into this.



Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:15 PM (sBOL1)

150 They don't make desserts,

I claim Habanero sauce exclusion.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 05:15 PM (FhXTo)

151 you're also an easy walk or a very quick cab ride of the North End and some phenomenal Italian restaurants.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 05:14 PM (n6g6t)
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Ooh ooh ooh ooh Fratelli Pagliucca.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:15 PM (sBOL1)

152 Ooh ooh ooh ooh Fratelli Pagliucca.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:15 PM (sBOL1)
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The Clown Brothers?

I don't do the clown scene.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:16 PM (QGoUX)

153 All it said was to give attribution, but I am not sure you can do that with published and copyrighted material if you include the whole recipe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


Just convert all the measurements to metric. They'll never figure out what happened.

Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (vRcUp)

154 15 SpaceX is live, targeting a launch at 4:25 ET from Vandenberg, CA.

I heard CaliGirl say she was going to try to watch it. I hope she's there.
Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 04:02 PM (sdi6R)

I saw it. When I came inside it shook my house. The doors and windows were rattling. You couldn't miss it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (Ri/rl)

155 -

Long Bow Tie Pasta Salad


Take a box of bow tie pasta.

Get banned from the AoSHQ kitchen.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (uBKPR)

156 any good restaurants in downtown Boston to
recommend? I'll be there in July on a business trip and staying at the
Hilton in the waterfront area.

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM (gcme+)

Anything run by Barbara Lynch will be good, but ask Jackstraw for some good insider advice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (wYseH)

157 IC--

Union Oyster House, I believe the oldest restaurant in America.

The 'American Bouillabaisse' is one if the finest meals I've had.

Posted by: JT in KC at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (FoSz+)

158 139
Other: 26

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???

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:10 PM (QGoUX)
Also wondering . . . ???

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:18 PM (EgOr3)

159 Pan Seared Steak

Heat up a pan.
Toss a steak in it.

Finish a beer.
Flip the steak.
Finish another beer.

Figure it's done.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 05:19 PM (uBKPR)

160 Also wondering . . . ???
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:18 PM (EgOr3)
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Recipes for hobo jerky and Greek Fire.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:19 PM (QGoUX)

161 How many have hobo as an ingredient?

In lieu of transient, substitute opossum.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 05:19 PM (LTHVh)

162 I saw it. When I came inside it shook my house. The doors and windows were rattling. You couldn't miss it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 25, 2017 05:17 PM (Ri/rl)
SUPER COOL!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:19 PM (EgOr3)

163 bluebell:

Are you going to be making and testing the recipes?

If yes, maybe that's something that would be cool to put on YouTube?

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 05:20 PM (aT+Bx)

164
Tami, all I can say is I knew this would take longer than #twoweeks when I got myself into this.



Or, rather, I should say when Weasel got me into this.









Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:15 PM (sBOL1)

Delegate bluebell, delegate.....

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 05:20 PM (Enq6K)

165 BBQ in NYC better than Texas?!

Heh, reminds me of these classics:

https://youtu.be/mSxnieYctVM

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 25, 2017 05:20 PM (GsAUU)

166 Six out of ten satellites have deployed.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 05:20 PM (sdi6R)

167 I just got in from mowing the lawn and treated myself to 3 scoops of Turkey Hill All Natural Vanilla Bean ice cream.

Thinkin' of changing my name to Ellie Three Scoops.

(In all honesty, it would have been four scoops, but there was only enough left for three.)

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at June 25, 2017 05:21 PM (NqQAS)

168 Chicken and Penne a la Vodka y Vodka mit Vodka con Vodka.

Heat up two quarts of vodka.
Boil a chicken breast in it for 10 minutes
Add penne.
Boil another 10 minutes.

Take off heat.

Dump in 1 cup heavy cream, salt and pepper to taste.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 05:21 PM (uBKPR)

169 Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at June 25, 2017 05:21 PM (NqQAS)

I'm sorry you're out of beer.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:22 PM (EgOr3)

170 Gourmet possum cookin':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWQoAWeAZ0

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 05:22 PM (QGoUX)

171 Ahem.

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Afternoon Food Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous (and naked under their aprons), knives are always sharp and never used to cut tofu or kale, and special snowflakes starve to death. And unlike other AoSHQ threads, the Sunday Afternoon Food Thread is so hoity-toity, we have a book! And bacon...

Clear plagiarism.You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Good DAY, sir!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM (L5xfm)

172 Has anyone submitted the Alton Brown Pan Seared Steak recipe yet? Since I started doing this, I haven't even lit the outdoor grill.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM (LTHVh)

173
I submitted a Classic Marinara Sauce which can be used for main dish pastas, on green beans as a side, in lasagna as an ingredient, etc.

So, "Other."

Posted by: Love Gun at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM (no0Da)

174 Pan Seared Steak

rib eye steaks or 2 New York strip steaks, 1 1/2-inch thick
vegetable oil, to coat
kosher salt & fresh ground pepper

Remove steak(s) from fridge and start bringing them to room temperature.

After 30 to 45 minutes, place a 10 to 12-inch cast iron skillet in oven and heat oven to 500 degrees F.
When oven reaches temperature, remove the pan and place it on a burner over high heat.

Coat steak(s) lightly with oil and season both sides with a generous pinch of salt. Grind on black pepper to taste.

Immediately place steak(s) in the middle of the hot, dry pan. Cook 30 to 60 seconds without moving. Turn the steak(s) with tongs and cook another 30 to 60 seconds, then put the pan straight into the oven for 3 to 5 minutes. Flip steak(s) and cook for another 3 to 5 minutes. (The time in the oven depends on how rare you like your steaks. The time given is for medium, but depends on number of steaks, etc. as well.)

Remove the steak(s) from the pan, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 2 minutes.

Serve whole or slice thin and fan onto plate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (LTHVh)

175 Delegate bluebell, delegate.....
Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 05:20 PM (Enq6K)
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Don't worry, Tami - I have lots of offers of help. I'll be okay, I promise!

I'm not revealing what the "Other" recipes are.* You'll just have to buy the book and see for yourself.

*Mainly because I was just tabbing through the file noting categories.

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (sBOL1)

176 potatoes anna

it's a classic french side dish, so just about everybody has it, including julia child, but it's really good and simple:

slice potatoes very thin. layer in a buttered casserole dish. dot with butter, salt & pepper. add another layer, butter, salt & pepper until it's about 1-2" deep. optional: sprinkle minced onion as well. cook @ 350-450 degrees (?) for about 30 minutes (?) or until done (browned and crispy on the sides.

it's really good.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (WTSFk)

177 Where are the real men?

THEY GRILL!

I am disgusted.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:11

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I saw the paltry 14 submissions for The Grill, and figured that Real Men grilling don't have recipes. They just do it. While drinking. And don't write a damn thing down. But it tastes great.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 05:27 PM (Dhht7)

178 I promise to submit a recipe for the grill if I can get out from under the iron boot of bluebell.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 05:27 PM (Sfs6o)

179 Thank you CBD for this thread and especially for that homemade ricotta recipe you posted 2 weeks ago. I made it last night and it was fantastic. So easy, so tasty. We had some this morning with sliced strawberries. With a couple strips of crispy bacon and toast it was yummy stuff. This recipe is going in my "keeper" pile.

Posted by: cfo mom at June 25, 2017 05:27 PM (RfzVr)

180 I would submit my wife's chili recipe, which is kind of a derivation of what my mother used to do, but it really has kind of evolved into 'grab whatever's in the refrigerator that's aging out and throw it in the crock pot'.

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (TppKb)

181 I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (W78yZ)



Add a bottle of iodine to that and you can pretend it's The Balvenie Double Wood.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (9q7Dl)

182 181 I add sweetened iced tea to Val-u-Rite and pretend it's Woodford Reserve.

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 04:11 PM (W78yZ)


Add a bottle of iodine to that and you can pretend it's The Balvenie Double Wood.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (9q7Dl)

And a little murky seawater for that extra piquance.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (0mRoj)

183 Clear plagiarism.You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM (L5xfm)

Is it plagiarism if you are the only one who noticed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (wYseH)

184 Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:22 PM (EgOr3)

Tragic, yes, but I'm on my way out to correct that in just a few!

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at June 25, 2017 05:29 PM (NqQAS)

185 I submitted a way to blend a can of Pringles and a bag of Fritos into a flour, add a quarter pound of melted butter, combine.... press into a pie plate, bake at 325degF for 20 minutes, cool, and then just eat the thing.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 25, 2017 05:29 PM (uBKPR)

186 "Other" - maybe includes soup?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 05:30 PM (NOIQH)

187 it's really good.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (WTSFk)
Potatoes Anna is heaven! Haven't made them in ages. But, yes, so incredibly good.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:31 PM (EgOr3)

188 How many have hobo as an ingredient?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I have a really interesting recipe for baby back ribs.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (vRcUp)

189 Is it plagiarism if you are the only one who noticed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:28

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I noticed. Need a witness, OM?

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (Dhht7)

190 Rewatching Dexter because I'm bored. John Lithgow as a really twisted serial killer is a damn good performance. Creepy shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (0mRoj)

191 musical jolly chimp - I love potatoes anna, make it all the time.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (NOIQH)

192 Is it plagiarism if you are the only one who noticed?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (wYseH)No shit.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at June 25, 2017 05:33 PM (EgOr3)

193 183 Clear plagiarism.You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM (L5xfm)

Is it plagiarism if you are the only one who noticed?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (wYseH)

If a plagiarist rips off someone else's work in a forest and a tree falls on him, does anyone really give a shit?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:34 PM (0mRoj)

194 Is it plagiarism if you are the only one who noticed?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:28 PM (wYseH)No shit.

Common practice in the Ivy Leagues

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:34 PM (SjImc)

195 Only 14 submissions for the grill?

Hmmmm.


I guess I'll submit my Scientific BBQ Brisket and Rib Cookery dealio though it's not really a recipe but a simple methodology for perfect brisket or ribs every time.

No silly wrapping voodoo or dumb brisket tricks necessary morons.

She brisketed me with SCIENCE!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 05:34 PM (9q7Dl)

196 The local grocery store is now carrying Argentine shrimp They are more lobster tasting than regular shrimp. Outstanding.

I gave changed my guacamole recipe
Avacados- depending on how big a batch you want- I start with 4 large.
1 clove minced garlic
shredded parmesan - to taste
Fresh lime- to taste

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 05:35 PM (fhkpO)

197 All ten satellites have successfully deployed. Another perfect launch from SpaceX, the second one in two days.

Today's droneship landing looked smooth as silk, in contrast to Friday's, which looked rather exciting. I can't wait to see the video of that one.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 05:35 PM (sdi6R)

198 I have a really interesting recipe for baby back ribs.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (vRcUp)

This might be the most awful comment I have ever read here. Certainly in the top ten.

My cognitive dissonance is flaring up.

Laugh
vomit
shudder
chuckle

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:37 PM (wYseH)

199 If you use the word reservation, it could have at least three different meanings.

I have reservations about the reservations I made for our trips to the reservations.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 05:38 PM (IDPbH)

200 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 25, 2017 05:39 PM (KCxzN)

201 177 Where are the real men?

THEY GRILL!

I am disgusted.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 05:11

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I saw the paltry 14 submissions for The Grill, and figured that Real Men grilling don't have recipes. They just do it. While drinking. And don't write a damn thing down. But it tastes great.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 05:27 PM (Dhht7)

OK... wheres the damn website...

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 05:40 PM (NgKpN)

202 I gave changed my guacamole recipe

Avacados- depending on how big a batch you want- I start with 4 large.

1 clove minced garlic

shredded parmesan - to taste

Fresh lime- to taste

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 05:35 PM (fhkpO)
That sounds really good. Never thought of parmesan in guac but I can taste it in my mind. It absolutely needs garlic, which many people leave out. Of course, I just buy the packet of guac mix and use that. I'm hopeless.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:40 PM (EgOr3)

203 Police Officers with shotguns surrounded a house in a town where a Moron lives? Should I be concerned?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:44 PM (SjImc)

204 203
Police Officers with shotguns surrounded a house in a town where a Moron lives? Should I be concerned?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:44 PM (SjImc)
Can you elaborate?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:45 PM (EgOr3)

205 OK... wheres the damn website...
Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 05:40 PM (NgKpN)
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👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇

Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 25, 2017 05:45 PM (sBOL1)

206 Peaces- I just make a big bowl and use the shrimp like one would use chips.

Have to use the shredded parmesan not the grated.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 05:46 PM (fhkpO)

207 OK... wheres the damn website...

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 05:40 PM

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For recipe submissions? moroncookbook.com

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 05:46 PM (Dhht7)

208 203 Police Officers with shotguns surrounded a house in a town where a Moron lives? Should I be concerned?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:44 PM (SjImc)


Do you own a dog?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:47 PM (0mRoj)

209 Have to use the shredded parmesan not the grated.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 05:46 PM (fhkpO)
Yeah, grated would turn to mush, I get that. I'm also going to be on the lookout for the Argentine shrimp. Because I could eat lobster every day for the rest of my life and never tire of it.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:48 PM (EgOr3)

210 Police Officers with shotguns surrounded a house in a town where a Moron lives? Should I be concerned?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:44 PM (SjImc)
Can you elaborate?
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:45 PM (EgOr3)

No, the person I am targeting will know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:49 PM (SjImc)

211 Yeah, grated would turn to mush, I get that. I'm also going to be on the lookout for the Argentine shrimp. Because I could eat lobster every day for the rest of my life and never tire of it.
Posted by: Peaches at June




suppose the lobster every day reminds you of your childhood.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 05:49 PM (0wem/)

212 Do you own a dog?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:47 PM (0mRoj)



Does your dog bite?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:50 PM (SjImc)

213 Peanut Brittle? Really? Sorry I dont have the Cadillac dental plan.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 05:51 PM (7iUYS)

214 212 Do you own a dog?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:47 PM (0mRoj)



Does your dog bite?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 05:50 PM (SjImc)

No, Monsieur, my dog does not bite.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:51 PM (0mRoj)

215 suppose the lobster every day reminds you of your childhood.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 05:49 PM (0wem/)Well, that, too. But it's literally one of the best tasting things I have ever put in my mouth. Funny thing is, way back in the olden days, the NE prisons used to serve the convicts lobster all the time . . . nobody wanted it. Maybe they just didn't have any melted butter, I dunno!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:52 PM (EgOr3)

216 so if we submitted and didn't get an email in response - we should resubmit?

Posted by: lurker at June 25, 2017 05:53 PM (dCE/d)

217 Every time I look at a lobster my next thought is filet mignon on the side.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 05:54 PM (fhkpO)

218 Sure you can get good Q in NYC. Provided the pit master is from Texas.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 05:54 PM (kTF2Z)

219 Well, that, too. But it's literally one of the best tasting things I have ever put in my mouth.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 05:54 PM (0mRoj)

220 Avast, me hearties! Methinks CBD is having entirely too much fun with the List O' Shame on the sidebar.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 05:54 PM (DMUuz)

221 I have read that. Also that there was a rule or regulation against feeding your staff lobster too frequently. Funny how scarcity affects what people want.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 05:55 PM (0wem/)

222 I have a really interesting recipe for baby back ribs.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at June 25, 2017 05:32 PM (vRcUp)


I don't know whether to ban your ass or give you a medal.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 05:55 PM (4xNSC)

223 I had a friend who was a 'Betty Crocker' at the test kitchen giving tours in the MN headquarters oooooffff...is it General Mills? . My brush with greatness.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 05:55 PM (7iUYS)

224 lurker, you didn't get an automatic email back that said "thanks for your recipe submission" with a copy of what you sent?

When did you submit, and what was the name of the recipe? If it was before today, I can check. If it was today, I won't know until tomorrow.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 05:55 PM (sBOL1)

225 OK.... ya slackers... grill recipe submitted...

Don Quixote's Hawaii BBQ Ham.... great for parties....

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (NgKpN)

226 BBQ is better in NY than in Texas???!
Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 04:02 PM


For some values of BBQ.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (DMUuz)

227 Any views on shellfish and crustacean sourcing? Her Majesty won't buy stuff not from the US and I wonder how valid her concerns are?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (DEDYK)

228 I have read that. Also that there was a rule or
regulation against feeding your staff lobster too frequently. Funny how
scarcity affects what people want.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 05:55 PM (0wem/)
They basically thought of them as sea "bugs." And, who knows, probably cooked 'em wrong, although it's the easiest, fastest thing in the world to cook (not talkin' broiled here, wouldn't give you a nickel for a broiled lobstah).

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (EgOr3)

229 What is a contessa and why doesn't she have any shoes?

Posted by: wisenheimer at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (iznPC)

230 bluebell - if you look at the 'master' tab on today's CSV file you will see everything through about noon today. I can go check if you need me to look for something.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 05:59 PM (Sfs6o)

231 Everybody's rockin', everybody's fruggin'.

Posted by: Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 05:59 PM (Tyii7)

232 I used to love oysters on the half shell when I lived in FL. And had a favorite place to get them cheap. After many years I just had them again in Portland and ugh. Has my taste changed or did they suck?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:00 PM (7iUYS)

233 My grocery store has also started carrying huge lobsters- maybe 3-5 lb range.

How would you cook it?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:02 PM (fhkpO)

234 I can go check if you need me to look for something.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 05:59 PM (Sfs6o)
I'm sure bluebell would not want you to inconvenience yourself . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:02 PM (EgOr3)

235 233 My grocery store has also started carrying huge lobsters- maybe 3-5 lb range.

How would you cook it?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:02 PM (fhkpO)

In a huge pot.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:03 PM (0mRoj)

236 bluebell - if you look at the 'master' tab on today's CSV file you will see everything through about noon today. I can go check if you need me to look for something.
Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 05:59 PM (Sfs6o)
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Thanks, Weasel. I'm waiting for lurker at 216 to let me know if I need to check.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:05 PM (sBOL1)

237 How would you cook it?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:02 PM (fhkpO)

In a big pot, but you don't have to boil them. You can steam them. I would cook a 3 pound lobster for about 12 minutes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:05 PM (wYseH)

238 233
My grocery store has also started carrying huge lobsters- maybe 3-5 lb range.



How would you cook it?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:02 PM (fhkpO)
Go with the smaller end of the weight scale (for tenderness). Then google "steamed lobster." Some people boil 'em but I think steaming is better. Up to you. Not hard. And the "scream" you will hear is not actual screaming just the air getting out of the shells when they hit the boiling water/steam. However, it's not for the squeamish.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (EgOr3)

239 Clear plagiarism.You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Good DAY, sir!


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 05:24 PM


I gotta agree. And the bit about 'ettes being nekkid under their aprons was sexist. What about the 'rons being nekkid under their kilts? What about 'rons AND 'ettes being nekkid under their chaps?

And it's not just the plagiarism. Really, it's the aspirational branding he's attempting. What next, ripping off the GAINZZ brand?

I will contribute 500 quatloos to your legal GoFunMe, once you set it up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (DMUuz)

240 They basically thought of them as sea "bugs."

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM (EgOr3)

The modern lobster fishery is pretty sophisticated. They catch them then send them through a pretty involved process to purge them of the crap that lobsters tend to eat.

I'll bet a lobster fresh from the ocean runs a chance of tasting, literally, like shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (wYseH)

241 In a big pot, but you don't have to boil them. You can steam them. I would cook a 3 pound lobster for about 12 minutes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June




well the plus of steaming is you can listen to their screams longer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (0wem/)

242 What is a contessa and why doesn't she have any shoes?

Posted by: wisenheimer


And why is there a stigma against feet in the kitchen? As if they were unsanitary.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at June 25, 2017 06:08 PM (xAvrH)

243 CBD- Thank you - I have been tempted to try one. My cheap soul would hate to ruin a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:08 PM (fhkpO)

244 I'll bet a lobster fresh from the ocean runs a chance of tasting, literally, like shit.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (wYseH)
I'm here to tell you that's 100 percent incorrect.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:08 PM (EgOr3)

245 the "scream" you will hear is not actual screaming


Posted by: Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:09 PM (Tyii7)

246 However, it's not for the squeamish.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (EgOr3)
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^^^This^^^.

I like the taste of lobster, but it doesn't like me. I've never been so sick in all my life as from eating boiled or steamed whole lobster. And yes, it was cooked correctly; no one else got sick. In fact, it happened twice before I connected the dots (shut up, CBD).

But it's awfully grim to cook them at home - I just can't. Thankfully, they make me sick and my husband worked on a lobster boat for a bit, so he won't touch them either. So, no lobstahs here.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:10 PM (sBOL1)

247 you can listen to their screams longer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (0wem/)

"The Silence Of The Lobsters"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:10 PM (wYseH)

248 If the contessa was nekkid under her apron, she'd be bare-assed.

Posted by: fly gal at June 25, 2017 06:10 PM (W78yZ)

249 One of my FB friends just posted this. See if you can find the typo... ;-)

"Like I said, if your panty is full of expensive breads and cereals, and if you're in good health, you may want to wait until just before your next trip to the grocery store before watching... otherwise you're gonna end up throwing out a lot of "food" (if you can still call it that)!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:10 PM (eMKNe)

250 I'm here to tell you that's 100 percent incorrect.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:08 PM (EgOr3)

Please to explain!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (wYseH)

251 247 you can listen to their screams longer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:07 PM (0wem/)

"The Silence Of The Lobsters"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:10 PM (wYseH)

I picked up one of the lobsters and I ran. He felt so heavy. And it was cold, so very cold.

Posted by: Clarisse Starling at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (0mRoj)

252 You can tell that the lobster is close to ready when it quits knocking on the side of the pot.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (LTHVh)

253 Sorry , I wasn't clear. These huge lobsters are not live. They are already prepped.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (fhkpO)

254
No, Monsieur, my dog does not bite.
posted by : Insomniac

But he has no nose.

Posted by: Monkfish at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (7ciu+)

255 if your panty is full of expensive breads and cereals

LOL!!!! YOu gotta introduce your friend to the seafood tart!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (EgOr3)

256 "The Silence Of The Lobsters"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June




heh.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (0wem/)

257 Peaches, I gotta lotta new ideas for recipes... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:12 PM (eMKNe)

258 I ate a 3lb lobster once, but it was just to say that I had. It wasn't as tasty as the more typical 1-1.5lb lobster.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (LTHVh)

259 Give Margaret a medal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (89T5c)

260 250
I'm here to tell you that's 100 percent incorrect.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:08 PM (EgOr3)

Please to explain!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (wYseH)
I grew up on lobsters . . . (Masshole by birth and upbringing) . . . we'd go down to the docks and buy 'em right off the boat. In HS, my cousins' uncle had a beach house and we'd put our own pots out. Always, always ate 'em right out of the sea. But, I think you are in NJ (??) so your results will most assuredly vary.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (EgOr3)

261 I like the taste of lobster, but it doesn't like me. I've never been so sick in all my life as from eating boiled or steamed whole lobster. And yes, it was cooked correctly; no one else got sick. In fact, it happened twice before I connected the dots (shut up, CBD).

But it's awfully grim to cook them at home - I just can't. Thankfully, they make me sick and my husband worked on a lobster boat for a bit, so he won't touch them either. So, no lobstahs here.
Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June




Really? I worked on a cattle ranch for a while and never had any problems eating beef. Let me tell you, spit roasting a cow is a whole lot messier than boiling a lobster.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:14 PM (0wem/)

262 Trying a new method tonite for my burgers. Going to cook them in cast iron skillet on the grill.

Been getting into cast iron cooking, but it's summer and don't want to heat and smoke up kitchen. Plus don't have to clean stove-top.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 06:14 PM (Dhht7)

263 Barefoot people scare me.

Posted by: The Grapes of Crush at June 25, 2017 06:14 PM (DMUuz)

264 These huge lobsters are not live. They are already prepped.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:11 PM (fhkpO)
That's scary. I don't know what you are talking about but I would not, under any circumstances, buy a dead lobster.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:16 PM (EgOr3)

265 The Crepes of Wrath.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:16 PM (LTHVh)

266 I grew up on lobsters . . . (Masshole by birth and
upbringing) . . . we'd go down to the docks and buy 'em right off the
boat. In HS, my cousins' uncle had a beach house and we'd put our own
pots out. Always, always ate 'em right out of the sea. But, I think you
are in NJ (??) so your results will most assuredly vary.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (EgOr3)

Thank you.

That makes a lot more sense than what I was told and read. I think you are correct...the processing is for shipping them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:17 PM (wYseH)

267 Didn't someone just release a 120 year old lobster back into the wild last week? Sure that will end well. Free thermidor? Free bisque?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:18 PM (0wem/)

268 Let me tell you, spit roasting a cow is a whole lot messier than boiling a lobster.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:14 PM (0wem/)
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Trust me, it's not the cooking that put him off.

Do you know what it's like working on a lobster boat? I'll bet Peaches does.

Let's just say I'm glad he did it, because he never ever had a problem changing our babies' messy diapers or cleaning up their vomit, because he said nothing even came close to the smell of the lobster chum.

Bon appetit, y'all.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:18 PM (sBOL1)

269 267 Didn't someone just release a 120 year old lobster back into the wild last week? Sure that will end well. Free thermidor? Free bisque?
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:18 PM (0wem/)

Make sure the thermidor reads at least 212 degrees Fahrenheit before putting the lobster in.

Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (0mRoj)

270 Peaches- nothing but lobster and the shell. So yeah, dead as can be.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (fhkpO)

271 Trust me, it's not the cooking that put him off.

Do you know what it's like working on a lobster boat? I'll bet Peaches does.

Let's just say I'm glad he did it, because he never ever had a problem changing our babies' messy diapers or cleaning up their vomit, because he said nothing even came close to the smell of the lobster chum.

Bon appetit, y'all.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June




eww. got it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (0wem/)

272 232
I used to love oysters on the half shell when I lived in FL. And had a
favorite place to get them cheap. After many years I just had them again
in Portland and ugh. Has my taste changed or did they suck?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:00 PM

I can't eat any oysters except Gulf oysters. The others taste funny and I don't like them. I ate some in Brittany years ago and they were crap. People were having fits over how delicious they were and I didn't finish mine. Pacific and Atlantic oysters don't taste right either. It is like your palate gets set with them in your early life or something.

Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (LfJIn)

273 I'm sure I'd love lobster, I just can never afford it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (eMKNe)

274 What's with the penis amputation fantasy in the painting?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (3myMJ)

275 Didn't someone just release a 120 year old lobster back into the wild last week?

Free at last, free at last.

Posted by: Grampa Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (Tyii7)

276 Trader Joe's sells a Jalapeño Limeade that's quite nice mixed with a tequila. Ole!

Posted by: Eric the Red at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (jm1YL)

277 (Masshole by birth and
upbringing)

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (EgOr3)

That explains a lot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (wYseH)

278 You know, back in the day we ate punk food. We ate it while listening to punk music.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:20 PM (KCmMX)

279 It's been some years since I read this, so it might not still be true, but I believe that there was a upper size limit for keeping lobsters. The biologist had determined that the older lobsters produced so much more young that you could take all the small lobsters without harming the crop if you let the big ones go.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:22 PM (LTHVh)

280 Also found a new summer beverage. Schofferhofer's Hefeweizen Grapefruit Bier. Light, refreshing, very tasty.

Posted by: Eric the Red at June 25, 2017 06:23 PM (jm1YL)

281 Lobster tastes just fine but it doesn't taste fine enough to make up for how much trouble it is to eat.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:23 PM (3myMJ)

282 Scallops > lobster > shrimp > oysters > clams.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:23 PM (LTHVh)

283 I can't eat any oysters except Gulf oysters. The
others taste funny and I don't like them.

Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (LfJIn)

Interesting. I am just the opposite, although I will eat Gulf oysters cooked, especially in a Po' Boy or those incredible wood-fire roasted ones in New Orleans.

Actually, I will eat Gulf oysters raw, but I find them adequate at best compared to cold water oysters.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:24 PM (wYseH)

284 282 Scallops > lobster > shrimp > oysters > clams.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:23 PM (LTHVh)

Where does crab fall into your hierarchy?

Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:24 PM (0mRoj)

285 the older lobsters produced so much more young

Damned straight. Still plenty of lead in the ol' pencil.

Posted by: Grampa Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:24 PM (Tyii7)

286 Where does crab fall into your hierarchy?

If someone else cracks them, with the shrimp. If I have to crack them, down with the mussels.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:25 PM (LTHVh)

287 Rock Lobster

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:25 PM (KCmMX)

288 Still had my sock on.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:25 PM (jm1YL)

289 Thank you CBD for this thread and especially for that homemade ricotta recipe you posted 2 weeks ago...
Posted by: cfo mom at June 25, 2017 05:27 PM
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Speaking of ricotta...was at a nice Italian restaurant a few weeks ago and ordered the fresh mozzarella ball appetizer. When I cut into it, out burst the most delicious, creamy ricotta I have ever tasted. Don't know how they did it, and I couldn't find any "seams" in the mozz, etc. But it was awesome.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 06:25 PM (HiDrR)

290 Scallops are simply the best seafood of all. Sweet and tender.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:26 PM (LTHVh)

291 Can't do shellfish. Had oysters on the half shell years ago and afterwards got violently sick. Clams do the same thing.

Her Majesty loves them. Half a dozen chargrilled oysters are her usual Saturday restaurant appetizer. A few years ago she was visiting her native New Zealand and all around the coast of the South Island were oyster stands where she'd stop and gorge.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 06:27 PM (DEDYK)

292 "Lobster tastes just fine but it doesn't taste fine enough to make up for how much trouble it is to eat."

Agreed. I prefer some good scallops.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:27 PM (jm1YL)

293 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:24 PM (wYseH)
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Appalachicola oysters on the half shell.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:28 PM (Sfs6o)

294 The problem with good scallops at a restaurant is that they never give you enough.

Posted by: Grampa Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:28 PM (Tyii7)

295 Is a crawfish, fish?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (KCmMX)

296 294 The problem with good scallops at a restaurant is that they never give you enough.
Posted by: Grampa Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:28 PM (Tyii7)

^This.

Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (0mRoj)

297 The problem with good scallops at a restaurant is that they never give you enough.

You put you claw right on the issue, Grampa.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (LTHVh)

298 Hey...there's a pube on my steak!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (OdK9v)

299 CBD- I tried your fresh mozzarella/tomato on sourdough for lunch yesterday. Used a basil infused olive oil but it really came to life when I put fresh chopped basil on it . Thanks for posting that recipe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (fhkpO)

300 I just submitted Aunt Jeans Cheesecake recipe for review.

Question. Who does Bluebell sell our emails addresses too?


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (7iUYS)

301 Any views on shellfish and crustacean sourcing? Her Majesty won't buy stuff not from the US and I wonder how valid her concerns are?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 05:58 PM
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Your Queen is correct! Saw some clips of shrimp "farms" in SE Asia that would make your skin crawl. They are literally swimming in sewage.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (HiDrR)

302 Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM

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Change your nic?

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 06:31 PM (Dhht7)

303 302 Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM

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Change your nic?
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 25, 2017 06:31 PM (Dhht7)

Damn. Just fat fingers.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:32 PM (0mRoj)

304 Question. Who does Bluebell sell our emails addresses too?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (7iUYS)
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*shifty eyes*

I don't know what you're talking about.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:32 PM (sBOL1)

305 "The problem with good scallops at a restaurant is that they never give you enough. "

Like there's a shortage or something.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:32 PM (jm1YL)

306 294 The problem with good scallops at a restaurant is that they never give you enough.
Posted by: Grampa Rock Lobster at June 25, 2017 06:28 PM
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Scallops are outrageously expensive. In fact, a lot of restaurants (even Red Lobster) have taken them off the menu specifically because of what you mention. In order to make a profit, they can't give you a plate full of them without charging you $50 for the meal, and people get upset with the measly portion they are given.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 06:33 PM (HiDrR)

307 I could submit my homemade kimchi recipe. It tastes pretty good but induces a great purge every single time when eaten.

I could end the affliction of constipation for all of humanity.

Posted by: JT in KC at June 25, 2017 06:33 PM (FoSz+)

308 They are literally swimming in sewage.

We've learned to do the backstroke.

Posted by: Asian Shrimps at June 25, 2017 06:33 PM (Tyii7)

309 Agreed. I prefer some good scallops.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:27 PM (jm1YL)
I could eat scallops every day! My go-to order at swanky seafood restaurants. For lobster, you want to eat it at home. And, first, you cover the table with many layers of newspaper (except nobody has that anymore!), so you can just bundle it up and throw it out when you are done making a huge mess!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:34 PM (EgOr3)

310 Had my first try at using truffle oil yesterday. Made a mushroom risotto with black truffle oil. I will do this again.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:34 PM (fhkpO)

311 Don't you hate when you go to a Seafood restaurant and they keep pressing you to eat more hushpuppies and fries when you order the all-you-can-eat shrimp dinner?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:35 PM (LTHVh)

312 So I also loved clams on the half shell. Those when I was a New Yawka. Haven't had them in many years, but now after my experience with Portland oysters...well.... not sure about having them.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:36 PM (7iUYS)

313 The biologist had determined that the older lobsters
produced so much more young that you could take all the small lobsters
without harming the crop if you let the big ones go.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:22 PM (LTHVh)
The limit, iirc, is 1.5 pounds. Under that, you had to throw it back.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:36 PM (EgOr3)

314 Just got here and see we are talking seafood.

Has anyone metioned Rocky Mountain Oysters yet?

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:36 PM (sNYFR)

315 Open for business!

Posted by: Joe's All-U-Can-Eat Hushpuppies and Fries at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (Tyii7)

316 314 Just got here and see we are talking seafood.

Has anyone metioned Rocky Mountain Oysters yet?
Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:36 PM (sNYFR)


Nobody had the balls.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (0mRoj)

317 So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)

318 There literally is no limit the the amount of fried shrimp I can eat. It seems I can digest it as fast as I can eat it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (LTHVh)

319 Don't you hate when you go to a Seafood restaurant and they keep pressing you to eat more hushpuppies and fries when you order the all-you-can-eat shrimp dinner?

"Less naggin', more baggin'!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (eMKNe)

320 Make sure the thermidor reads at least 212 degrees Fahrenheit before putting the lobster in.
Posted by: Insnomniac at June 25, 2017 06:19 PM (0mRoj)


You should never eat shellfish in French revolution calendar months with an "R"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (mkDpn)

321 I also love clams. Unfortunately, restaurants love to serve the deep fried with way more breeding than they need.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (jm1YL)

322 317 So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)

I have. They have their place, but they're nowhere near as good as the real thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (0mRoj)

323 I have had the cooks come out of the kitchen to stare at me in either admiration or horror after the 2nd hour of eating.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (LTHVh)

324 So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)

Probably all of us....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (wYseH)

325 Question. Who does Bluebell sell our emails addresses too?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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Bwahahaha.
Pffft
We've already sorted through them and sold them, by geographic area, demographic, interest, political/social profile, and psychological profile.

Posted by: Gloogle at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (OdK9v)

326 What's with the penis amputation fantasy in the painting?

Posted by: Meremortal


Back when cooking was considered women's work, men had to identify as women in order to participate in cooking contests.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (xAvrH)

327 Nobody had the balls.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (0mRoj)

That was fast

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (sNYFR)

328 310 Had my first try at using truffle oil yesterday. Made a mushroom risotto with black truffle oil. I will do this again.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:34 PM (fhkpO)

Will be in truffle territory during truffle season in Italy later this year.

Never had them on anything. I understand that...

1/3 love them to death.
1/3 meh.
13 tastes like ass.

Horde?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (7iUYS)

329 304 Question. Who does Bluebell sell our emails addresses too?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:30 PM (7iUYS)
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*shifty eyes*
I don't know what you're talking about.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:32 PM (sBOL1)
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bluebell is really an exiled Indian banking official (dot, not woo-woo)

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)

330 I want cheese sticks and onion straws right now....

Dairy and vegetables...seems legit right?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (smD62)

331 321
Damn auto correct. Breading not breeding

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (jm1YL)

332 318 There literally is no limit the the amount of fried shrimp I can eat. It seems I can digest it as fast as I can eat it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (LTHVh)

I'm the same way with cold boiled shrimp.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (0mRoj)

333 so you can just bundle it up and throw it out when you are done making a huge mess!


Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:34 PM


You mean you don't use the shells for lobster stock? How do you make bisque?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (n6g6t)

334 Insomniac for thread winner.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (fhkpO)

335 317
So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)
Gack! Right up there with "krab." I will eat effin' rice-a-roni, but I will NOT eat fake seafood. Srsly, just reading that gave me the shivers.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (EgOr3)

336 So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM
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I thought they were punched out of Monk fish? But what the hell do I know.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (HiDrR)

337 Went to Wahoo's Fish Taco just for some of their onion rings last night.

Unfortunately I chickened out at the last minute and ended up getting their cajun beans on the side of my steak enchilada instead. Next time!!!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (eMKNe)

338 324 So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)

Probably all of us....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:38 PM (wYseH)

I thought hey were punched out of sting ray.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (7iUYS)

339 Has anyone metioned Rocky Mountain Oysters yet?

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:36 PM (sNYFR)



Nobody had the balls.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM


Nicely done.

*golf clap*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (n6g6t)

340 318 There literally is no limit the the amount of fried shrimp I can eat. It seems I can digest it as fast as I can eat it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (LTHVh)

Right there with ya, Grump! No limits whatsoever when it comes to fried shrimp. OMG, now I want some.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:41 PM (EgOr3)

341 Screw it, you guys have talked me into going back to The Kickin' Crab at Cerritos Mall.

They put so much salt in their popcorn shrimp and fries, my feet will swell up to the size of refrigerators. But I's don't care no mo...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:41 PM (eMKNe)

342 So, grilling/BBQ:

1 - I love my natgas grill, but family picnic yesterday at park. Built-in charcoal grills. Lump hardwood/chimney FTW.

2 - more of a complaint: first assumptions: "BBQ" means "fire." Our synagogue hosted a Kosher BBQ fundraiser today, with brisket and chicken (and Hotdogs). Because Kosher, the actual cooking took place a few days ago under strict rabbinic supervision in our shul's kitchen.

The food was yummy, but roasted brisket and chicken with BBQ sauce =\= BBQ.

I didn't want to rain on the parade, so kept my mouth shut (cue the Ripley's theme song), but had to vent *somewhere*.

Posted by: ibguy at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (vUcdz)

343 335 317
So who has eaten fake scallops? You know, punched out of shark.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:37 PM (KCmMX)
Gack! Right up there with "krab." I will eat effin' rice-a-roni, but I will NOT eat fake seafood. Srsly, just reading that gave me the shivers.
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (EgOr3)

Krab is seafood - fish to be particular - but it's not crabmeat.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)

344 Went to Wahoo's Fish Taco just for some of their onion rings last night.



Unfortunately I chickened out at the last minute and ended up
getting their cajun beans on the side of my steak enchilada instead.
Next time!!!...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (eMKNe)
Were you wearing your pussy hat?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (EgOr3)

345 Don't you hate when you go to a Seafood restaurant and they keep pressing you to eat more hushpuppies and fries when you order the all-you-can-eat shrimp dinner?

Posted by: Grump928(C)


You heah fowah howah!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (xAvrH)

346 334 Insomniac for thread winner.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (fhkpO)

Aw shucks.

*kicks the dirt*

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)

347 I thought hey were punched out of sting ray.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM


Usually they're made out of skate. To my mind, that's a waste of skate. Those things are delicious. Cut 'wings' into wedges, dust in flour, saute. Add some lemon juice, capers and browned buttah, and you're in business.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (n6g6t)

348
I thought they were punched out of Monk fish? But what the hell do I know.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (HiDrR)


Had Monk Fish as an entree. Delish.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (7iUYS)

349 Peaches, in the wash. Why do you ask? ;-)

Hey, they're tasty and halfway good for me. And I did NOT order tofu as my protein!

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (eMKNe)

350 I thought hey were punched out of sting ray.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (7iUYS)


Some kind of sea trash. I wonder what percent of supermarket meat and seafood is actually what's on the label. Single digits, I bet.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (DzU4Y)

351 Hadrian: if your 'steak' whinnies when you bite into it, that's not a good sign...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (eMKNe)

352 bluebell is really an exiled Indian banking official (dot, not woo-woo)
Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)
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Dang it. I thought I had scrubbed that dot off so you couldn't see it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (sBOL1)

353 Is a crawfish, fish?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (KCmMX)


Grandpa had a story about that. He took a number of people to a fancy French restaurant on Good Friday and Granma ordered frog legs.

When they arrived at the table Grandpa apparently started asking if frogs were fish, and got told curtly that at that price they certainly were.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (mkDpn)

354 Cannibal Bob- Will you do the actual truffle hunt and if so can you bring them back with you?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:45 PM (fhkpO)

355 Horde?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (7iUYS)
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I got some truffle pasta and truffle pate from Wegman's and was both over- and underwhelmed. It does lend earthiness to a recipe but there is that tang of the sarcophagus about it that I find blecch-making.

I am all about the fungi so I don't know where this comes from.

Anybody use truffle oil in cooking? Some swear by it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 06:45 PM (QGoUX)

356 Wahoo fish tacos is one of the only places I trust

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:46 PM (KCmMX)

357 had my usual she-crab soup at a seafood joint outside of Dover AFB on my way back from Little Creek. I would have had crab legs or Lobster but I hate to eat those alone...takes to long

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 06:46 PM (SjImc)

358
Usually they're made out of skate. To my mind, that's a waste of skate. Those things are delicious. Cut 'wings' into wedges, dust in flour, saute. Add some lemon juice, capers and browned buttah, and you're in business.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (n6g6t)

Yep. Heard tha too for the smaller ones. When I had the monk fish my coworker had the skate. They loved it. Wish I had kept all the ones I caught in FL. I did start catching and cooking the sheepshead we could catch off our dock in St. Pete after I saw it served in a local restaurant. Very good.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:46 PM (7iUYS)

359 potatoes anna

it's a classic french side dish, so just about everybody has it, including julia child, but it's really good and simple:

slice potatoes very thin. layer in a buttered casserole dish. dot with butter, salt & pepper. add another layer, butter, salt & pepper until it's about 1-2" deep. optional: sprinkle minced onion as well. cook @ 350-450 degrees (?) for about 30 minutes (?) or until done (browned and crispy on the sides.

it's really good.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (WTSFk)


You forgot the fresh grated Parmigiano Reggiano in each layer. This allows you to skip the salt. And yes, I've made Potatoes Anna, but not in an Anna pan (there actually is such a thing) but in a Corningware baking dish (lid on at first then remove for browning). It is delicious and the oven does all the cooking.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 06:47 PM (OFItL)

360 We don't sell any phony krabs, here!

Posted by: Eugene H. Krabs at June 25, 2017 06:47 PM (IqV8l)

361 Had Monk Fish as an entree. Delish.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (7iUYS)
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I love love love monkfish. Big tender flakes, almost like lobster. Plus, it is one ugly monster and I love seeing it in the seafood case.

It's kind of pricey so I can't see making fake scallops out of it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 06:48 PM (QGoUX)

362 352 bluebell is really an exiled Indian banking official (dot, not woo-woo)
Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)
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Dang it. I thought I had scrubbed that dot off so you couldn't see it.
Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 06:44 PM (sBOL1)
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It was the Bombay accent that gave you away.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (Sfs6o)

363 Hey, they're tasty and halfway good for me. And I did NOT order tofu as my protein!

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (eMKNe)You wanted onion rings, you settled for beans. It's like I don't even know you!

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (EgOr3)

364 354 Cannibal Bob- Will you do the actual truffle hunt and if so can you bring them back with you?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:45 PM (fhkpO)

Nope....They do set up truffle hunting trips but they are $500+. Heidi will be happy if she pets a truffle dog.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (7iUYS)

365 Has anyone metioned Rocky Mountain Oysters yet?

Posted by: tbodie


Ewww. Should not have looked that up. What a revolting idea.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (xAvrH)

366 shells when they hit the boiling water/steam. However, it's not for the squeamish.

Be sure and interrogate them over the boiling water.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2017 06:50 PM (FhXTo)

367 Peaches, screw it. I'll go back tonight for those rings. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:50 PM (eMKNe)

368 I love love love monkfish. Big tender flakes, almost like lobster.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 06:48 PM (QGoUX)


When I first found out about monkfish, it was called 'the poor man's lobster'. It's a good firm-fleshed white fish. But I must admit, I now prefer sole.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 06:50 PM (OFItL)

369 353
Is a crawfish, fish?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (KCmMX)

It's like faux-lobster but extremely tasty. If you are ever invited to a crawfish boil, grab a case of cold beer and show up! You won't be sorry.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (EgOr3)

370 Also my foot swelling has gotten a bit worse lately.

Last time I entered a food court I could overhear people saying as they exited: "It is qdpzilla!! We must flee!!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:51 PM (eMKNe)

371 It was the Bombay accent that gave you away.
Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (Sfs6o)
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I thought it might have been the Bollywood outfit.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:52 PM (sBOL1)

372 I would hock my , some thing, for a good swordfish or halibut steak.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:52 PM (fhkpO)

373 Ewww. Should not have looked that up. What a revolting idea.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (xAvrH)
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How on earth is it that I could know what that is, but you didn't?

I'm feeling faint.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (sBOL1)

374 Is a crawfish, fish?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 06:29 PM (KCmMX)


They have another name, which should answer your question: Mud bugs.

Mud bugs are seafood, but they are not fish.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (OFItL)

375 *Ewww. Should not have looked that up. What a revolting idea.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 06:49 PM (xAvrH)*



Actully, when sliced thin, battered and fried they are very good.

Pro- tip: must be eaten when warm. And never as leftovers.

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (sNYFR)

376 Tinfoilbaby, same here.

There are some fast food places I love, but I won't eat at that often, because I just don't trust the origin and/or quality of their food, or the quality of their cleanliness.

Unfortunately, Popeyes is that way for me.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (eMKNe)

377 OK I need to hit the gym now because tonight Tequila and beef.

I gained 5 lbs. just hanging out in this damn thread.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (7iUYS)

378 Swordfish very good.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (3myMJ)

379 372
I would hock my , some thing, for a good swordfish or halibut steak.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 06:52 PM (fhkpO)
You don't have to answer (it's an intrusive-y question) but where the fuck do you live that you can't find decent seafood. We do, after all, have airplanes. And, as an aside, if you want some great lobstah, go to Legal Seafood website, they ship it out live, on dry ice, and their chowdah is to die for. Pricey but totally worth it.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:55 PM (EgOr3)

380 Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 06:53 PM (sNYFR)

Correct on all counts. Wish I had a properly prepared plate right now.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:55 PM (3myMJ)

381 I gained 5 lbs. just hanging out in this damn thread.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (7iUYS)
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Don't be surprised to see some weight-loss product pitches in your inbox soon.

*looks away*

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:55 PM (sBOL1)

382 Speaking of seafood, has anyone *ever* had a quality meal at Long John Silver's?

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (eMKNe)

383 I had Bonita in Bonaire and that was delicious.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (7iUYS)

384 "they ship it out live, on dry ice"

Poor bastid lobsters can win for losing, geez.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (3myMJ)

385 Are sauces wanted for submission?

I have to submit a few recipes later this week. One will be a sauce for sautéed/oven roasted white fish like sole, cod or swordfish. It's a roasted pepper, sliced Kalamata olive and non-pareil caper sauce. I made a batch last week for some sautéed sole I prepared, and managed to put three small containers in the freezer.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 06:56 PM (OFItL)

386
Don't be surprised to see some weight-loss product pitches in your inbox soon.

*looks away*

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:55 PM (sBOL1)


Lol...bless your heart Bluebell.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:57 PM (7iUYS)

387 Sure, RickZ! We could use some "other" that doesn't involve hobo.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (sBOL1)

388 Anybody use truffle oil in cooking? Some swear by it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 06:45 PM (QGoUX)

And some swear at it.

I think it's overused, but in some dishes it works pretty well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 06:58 PM (wYseH)

389 their chowdah is to die for.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 06:55 PM (EgOr3)

I know!

A good Manhattan Clam Chowder is one of life's great pleasures!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM (wYseH)

390 Here we go.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 07:01 PM (sBOL1)

391 Has anyone metioned Rocky Mountain Oysters yet?

Posted by: tbodie

Ewww. Should not have looked that up. What a revolting idea.


Word. Testicles and assholes belong it hotdogs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (LTHVh)

392 A good Manhattan Clam Chowder is one of life's great pleasures!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM (wYseH)
You just made me throw up in my mouth a little. Freakin' Jersey boys. sigh

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (EgOr3)

393 I looooove shellfish. Unfortunately, it decided it hated me in my early 20's.


Try living in Asia and not being able to eat shellfish. It's hell I tell ya....hell.

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (Enq6K)

394 Thanks, bluebell. I'll also submit a few veggie recipes. One of my pet peeves is boring veggies.

~~~~~~~~~~

To me, truffle oil is like sesame oil: A little goes a long way.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (OFItL)

395 Peaches- I live in central Texas and it isn't close to anything.
My Mother used to ship me Salami, Dry Monterey Jack cheese and polenta from CA.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (fhkpO)

396 *A good Manhattan Clam Chowder is one of life's great pleasures!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM (wYseH)*

You are correct! Campbell's beats all the other brands by far.

Posted by: tbodie at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (sNYFR)

397 >>Speaking of seafood, has anyone *ever* had a quality meal at Long John Silver's?

Not in the history of Long John Silver's or mankind.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 07:03 PM (/tuJf)

398 395
Peaches- I live in central Texas and it isn't close to anything.

My Mother used to ship me Salami, Dry Monterey Jack cheese and polenta from CA.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (fhkpO)
Oh, my! While central Texas sounds like somewhere I'd love to be, I still have the sads. You can't even get salami??? Holy fuckballs. {scratches TX off list}

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:03 PM (EgOr3)

399 Her name is really bluebellabalajiganapathi.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 07:04 PM (Sfs6o)

400 What's the best, white chowder, or that icky red chowder?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 07:04 PM (6Ll1u)

401 Speaking of seafood, has anyone *ever* had a quality meal at Long John Silver's?

Not in the history of Long John Silver's or mankind.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 07:03 PM (/tuJf)

I remember eating some strange tasting lunches there when I was in Dental School, but then that was after dissection lab?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 07:04 PM (SjImc)

402 You just made me throw up in my mouth a little. Freakin' Jersey boys. sigh
Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:02 PM (EgOr3)
-------

Thank you, Peaches. We have been through this before. Some reprobate showed up on an ONT one night and started this crap.

BarleyClown'sBilbo, or something like that.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (sBOL1)

403 Speaking of seafood, has anyone *ever* had a quality meal at Long John Silver's?

LJS and Captain Dees are just for fish and chips. Drown it in malt vinegar and ketchup and snarf it down.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (LTHVh)

404 What's the best, white chowder, or that icky red chowder?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 07:04 PM (6Ll1u)

Honestly if they are good, I can eat both all day long and die a happy man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (SjImc)

405 A good Manhattan Clam Chowder is one of life's great pleasures!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 07:00 PM


And that's when the fight started....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 07:05 PM (n6g6t)

406 Oh great, Weasel. There goes my anonymity.

It took me years to think of this nic. Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (sBOL1)

407 >>What's the best, white chowder, or that icky red chowder?

How is this even a question?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (/tuJf)

408 Gumbo > Bisque > Chowder

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (LTHVh)

409 It's not chowdah. It's, like, minestrone with some canned clams tossed it.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (EgOr3)

410 I see that we have mostly rational people here tonight. Thank heavens.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 07:07 PM (sBOL1)

411 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I got something in the mail last week that had big bold letters that said: "Do you know what CBD is?!


I thought to myself, "Sure....it's CharlieBrown'sDildo."


Then I tossed it in the trash.

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 07:07 PM (Enq6K)

412 I got something in the mail last week that had big bold letters that said: "Do you know what CBD is?!


I thought to myself, "Sure....it's CharlieBrown'sDildo."


Then I tossed it in the trash.


Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 07:07 PM (Enq6K)






















I am effin' dying here, Tami! Laughing so hard, I'm having trouble breathing.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:10 PM (EgOr3)

413 406 Oh great, Weasel. There goes my anonymity.

It took me years to think of this nic. Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Eat, post, love at June 25, 2017 07:06 PM (sBOL1)
------
But I didn't give them your last name!

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 07:11 PM (Sfs6o)

414 But I didn't give them your last name!

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2017 07:11 PM (Sfs6o)


Patel.

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:12 PM (OFItL)

415
I am effin' dying here, Tami! Laughing so hard, I'm having trouble breathing.


Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:10 PM (EgOr3)


Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2017 07:14 PM (Enq6K)

416 >>Peaches- I live in central Texas and it isn't close to anything.

My Mother used to ship me Salami, Dry Monterey Jack cheese and polenta from CA.

Posted by: Ben Had

Actually, HEB stores usually have decent seafood departments.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 07:17 PM (/Nite)

417 Anyone who extols Manhattan clam chowder is the same kind of person who would say that New York barbeque is better than Texas. A gastronomic Yankees fan, in short.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 07:17 PM (DEDYK)

418 Swordfish very good.


Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:54 PM (3myMJ)


Don't order the Swordfish

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 07:20 PM (mkDpn)

419 >>Oh, my! While central Texas sounds like somewhere
I'd love to be, I still have the sads. You can't even get salami??? Holy
fuckballs. {scratches TX off list}


Posted by: Peaches

Yeah, well we have freakin awesome BBQ.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 07:20 PM (/Nite)

420 Absolute sock fail! ARRRGh. that was supposed to be the Billy Cutshaw sock.

drat drat drat.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (mkDpn)

421 Hadrian, that was pure poetry.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (sBOL1)

422 Yeah, well we have freakin awesome BBQ.


Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 07:20 PM (/Nite)
Good beef can make up for a lot . . . fine, unscratching central TX. :-) And, our thread has now been stomped.

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 07:21 PM (EgOr3)

423 From the wikipedia entry on New England clam chowder:

It is commonly made with potatoes, onion, and clams. Including tomatoes is shunned; in 1939, a bill making tomatoes in clam chowder illegal was introduced in the Maine legislature, but it did not pass.

F*cking bureaucrats.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 07:24 PM (xAvrH)

424 Not that it's not tasty for what it is but, New England clam chowder is just up-marketed potato soup.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:25 PM (LTHVh)

425 Had Monk Fish as an entree. Delish.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2017 06:43 PM (7iUYS)

*blush*




Posted by: Monkfish at June 25, 2017 07:33 PM (7ciu+)

426 Speaking of central Texas, you ever eat Yaki Man Du? Or Korean ribs? I love kimche.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 25, 2017 07:34 PM (6Ll1u)

427 New England clam chowder is just up-marketed potato soup.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 07:25 PM (LTHVh)


Potato soup with bacon and clams. Why do you hate bacon?

Posted by: RickZ at June 25, 2017 07:37 PM (OFItL)

428 Speaking of food, any good restaurants in downtown Boston to recommend? I'll be there in July on a business trip and staying at the Hilton in the waterfront area.

Posted by: IC at June 25, 2017 05:00 PM (gcme+)



Try Davio's Italian Steakhouse. I'm friends with the family on this one, and can recommend this, wholeheartedly.

http://tinyurl.com/y9clrv6l

They grind their own Italian Sausage there, in house. It is incredible.

Oh, and Bluebell? Just sent a recipe. Porky Pigchops!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 25, 2017 07:43 PM (v5iqM)

429 Suddenly, people are feeling guilty every time they eat something that actually has flavor...

On my death certificate, the primary cause of death will read "Failure to follow FDA recommendations".

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at June 25, 2017 08:33 PM (UUFoE)

430 So, is the clam chowder at the Crab Cooker in Newport Beach, CA really Manhattan Clam Chowder? Sure has a lot 'o celery seed in it. I like it.

Those round (not disc) crackers are unusual.

Posted by: KT at June 25, 2017 09:00 PM (BVQ+1)

431 #236 Sorry got called away .... sent email regarding submission

Posted by: lurker at June 25, 2017 09:27 PM (dCE/d)

432 As a former bookseller, I highly recommend that you not submit a copyrighted recipe. Right now, the publishing world is in a world of hurt, so why risk poking a wounded tiger with a sharp stick? (Unless, of course, you happen to have a big, fat D standing behind you, protecting you from any and all charges of plagiarism. Plagiarism is a lefty value, not a conservative one.) Why am I being so didactic about a seemingly trivial matter? Because I spent nearly thirty years working in an industry for which plagiarism was a really bad thing. And I studied history in the Dark Ages where plagiarism was the second worst sin the world. ( Making up sources was probably the worst of all sins.) And last but not least, a Cease and Desist letter usually carries threats beyond the limits of your imagination.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at June 25, 2017 11:48 PM (d9gy6)

The Human Cost Of Government Regulation: 79 Dead In One Day

This NYT article is a mass of evasive and sneaky explanations for the failure of government regulations and regulators to create and enforce reasonable building codes. At every turn it seems it was pressure from "business friendly" politicians that forced the regulators to allow substandard materials to be used. Why Grenfell Tower Burned: Regulators Put Cost Before Safety is a typical NYT article; it wows the unwary with seemingly in-depth reporting but it is clear that the conclusion was written before the reporting was complete.

Promising to cut "red tape," business-friendly politicians evidently judged that cost concerns outweighed the risks of allowing flammable materials to be used in facades. Builders in Britain were allowed to wrap residential apartment towers -- perhaps several hundred of them -- from top to bottom in highly flammable materials, a practice forbidden in the United States and many European countries. And companies did not hesitate to supply the British market.

How this would have turned out worse without the existence of any regulation is difficult to imagine. The only difference would be that the people responsible would go to jail. The fire-safety regulators and the building code writers and the inspectors and all of the other government bureaucrats whose very existence is to prevent exactly this catastrophe will be carefully insulated from any blame. There will be a large and expensive government inquiry, and they will find irregularities in the regulatory apparatus, but mostly they will find that it was private industry that is the real culprit. "Mean old Alcoa should never have sold us that exterior cladding!"

A formal government inquiry into the fire has just begun. But interviews with tenants, industry executives and fire safety engineers point to a gross failure of government oversight, a refusal to heed warnings from inside Britain and around the world and a drive by successive governments from both major political parties to free businesses from the burden of safety regulations.

So the very people who failed so spectacularly will be doing the inquiry? Brilliant!

And let's not forget to blame rich people!

Survivors have charged that the facade was installed to beautify their housing project for the benefit of wealthy neighbors.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




Comments

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1 It's worse than that -- the WHOLE REASON they needed to re-cover the buildings with "cladding" in the first place was to meet "green" climate-change regulations.

The disaster was caused by the environmentalists, not by greedy businessmen.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (DQ4Fv)

2 Furthermore, the WHOLE REASON the fire started in the first place was because the residents were supplied with "green" refrigerators that use an explosive gas as a refrigerant, rather than the inert freon -- because once again "sustainability" regulations by the green lobby has a conspiracy theory that freon is bad for the planet.

The entire disaster was caused by climate-change rules dreamt up and implemented by left-wing politicians.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 11:54 AM (DQ4Fv)

3 Of course the narrative is "Cost Before Safety, those evil corporate basterds!"

and not "Green uber Alles, because the children!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 25, 2017 11:55 AM (hcyUh)

4 The disaster was caused by the environmentalists, not by greedy businessmen.

Feed them to the now-extinct polar bears.

Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (LAe3v)

5 Feed them to the now-extinct polar bears.
Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (LAe3v)

Are they... ill-tempered?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (hcyUh)

6 The entire goal of environmentalism is to kill off the human population. I'm sure they now have a joke something like "What do you call 79 dead people killed in a green building fire? A good start."

Posted by: tonyc at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (G89X4)

7 The articles I read and linked to said that the fire spread so rapidly because of the "cladding" used on the outside of the building. That type of cladding is banned in the US by the building codes. This morning I had a link that said they have found 34 more high rise buildings with that same material.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (mpXpK)

8 On the opposite side, it's possible that the regulations preventing the use of asbestos in the WTC was a producing cause for their collapse after the impact.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:57 AM (IDPbH)

9 The New York times knows these facts (that the disaster was caused by re-covering the building to make is more "sustainable" to meet climate change regulations), and yet produce this lie-filled propaganda garbage.

The media are despicable liars, as usual.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 11:57 AM (DQ4Fv)

10 Mud huts are fire-proof.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at June 25, 2017 11:58 AM (98vja)

11 Accountability.....whazzat?

Posted by: BignJames at June 25, 2017 11:58 AM (x9c8r)

12 It's worse than that -- the WHOLE REASON they needed to re-cover the buildings with "cladding" in the first place was to meet "green" climate-change regulations.

The disaster was caused by the environmentalists, not by greedy businessmen.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (DQ4Fv)


This.

Plus installing insulation on the outside of a building is the least 'bang for the buck' you can spend.

It's like the science behind 'R' values doesn't mean anything to these people. More energy probably went into creating and installing the insulation than it would ever save.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 11:59 AM (PduNE)

13 8
On the opposite side, it's possible that the regulations preventing the
use of asbestos in the WTC was a producing cause for their collapse
after the impact.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:57 AM (IDPbH)

The WTC collapse was caused by the fire in the central part of the building softening the steel pins holding the floors up. The building was not designed to withstand a conflagration caused by a ton of JP5 released to the interior.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

14 It can be a double edged sword, building product safety has saved many lives and property damage. But as a report I heard on Rush's show a British engineer thought using certain products helped the fire

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (Ot7+c)

15 It's like the science behind 'R' values doesn't mean anything to these people. More energy probably went into creating and installing the insulation than it would ever save.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 11:59 AM (PduNE)

Somebody knew a guy who knew a guy... etc. etc.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (hcyUh)

16 The disaster was caused by the environmentalists, not by greedy businessmen.

I
think I read somewhere that the cladding was polystyrene, which just
happens to be the material they used to cover our WWII-era buildings at
my lab, because green. I guess napalm was not available.

Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

17 Accountability.....whazzat?
--

It's something that only applies to Republicans.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 12:04 PM (aT+Bx)

18
It can be a double edged sword, building product safety has saved many
lives and property damage.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (Ot7+c)

I agree that rational building standards can improve safety.

But the insanity that is government regulation subsumes that goal and turns into something with a life of it's own.

You build things. How often do you waste your time with legally mandated things that you know are ridiculous?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 12:05 PM (wYseH)

19 So much stupid-- it burnsss.

Posted by: USNtakim at June 25, 2017 12:05 PM (zZWkn)

20 The outer shell cladding is made up of two thin aluminium sheets with polyethylene filler in between them.


I wondered about using poly but they did have aluminum sheets surrounding it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:07 PM (mpXpK)

21
As I've said repeatedly in the past, when they change building codes to reflect 'global warming' by reducing the depth of cement footings because frost does not penetrate as far as it *used* to, *then* I'll sit up and pay attention.

Until then, I'm onto their game.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 12:08 PM (PduNE)

22 the fire in the central part of the building
softening the steel pins holding the floors up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

I have never seen that before. Where did you read that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 12:09 PM (wYseH)

23 So really, the whole situation really comes down to:

"Yeah, a lot of people died, but our building was environmentally friendly, and that's all the really matters. As for the deaths, well there are too many people on this planet, so we did Mother Gaia a favor."

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 12:11 PM (aT+Bx)

24 "How often do you waste your time with legally mandated things that you know are ridiculous?"

I once worked in a two-story Army building dating from WWII. There are many such.

The larger bathroom on the 1st floor was converted to women's, and the smaller one on the 2nd was made the men's. This made sense because there are so many more women than men in the Army. /sarc

While I was there, the 2nd floor men's room was gutted and renovated. There was only one urinal of three available during the work, which was a huge pain. The renovations included destroying one of the three total urinals and two stalls to insert an oversized 'wheelchair friendly' stall.

On the 2nd floor. Of an Army building. Without an elevator.

So we went from 3 urinals and 3 stalls to 2 urinals and 2 stalls to make room for wheelchairs that not only didn't exist (because it was the fucking Army), but couldn't get up there if they did exist.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:11 PM (ORmJ3)

25 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

They stopped spraying asbestos protectant on the structural steel because of the scare studies that were pushed at the time. I assume that included the structural pins.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (IDPbH)

26 The WTC collapse was caused by the fire in the
central part of the building softening the steel pins holding the floors
up. The building was not designed to withstand a conflagration caused
by a ton of JP5 released to the interior.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (mpXpK)
...
Fire can't melt steel, Vic. Everyone knows this.

Posted by: Infowars Knows Everything at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (U3sWw)

27 The purpose of government regulations is to prevent competition, award bribery and promote incompetence.

Remember, Indian (feather, not dot) reservations bad, public housing good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 12:13 PM (5VlCp)

28 Liberals know they can just forever move the goalposts on any tragedy and point to how nothing bad would ever happen if you just gave bureaucrats complete control of everything.


Fires happen, people die. Go look at truly socialist countries and how well they fare in accidents like this.

Posted by: publix at June 25, 2017 12:13 PM (gQ2iT)

29 Fire can't melt steel, Vic. Everyone knows this.
Posted by: Infowars Knows Everything at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM
--

I know, right?

Posted by: Rosie Where is my Lithium O'Donnell at June 25, 2017 12:14 PM (aT+Bx)

30 I agree that rational building standards can improve safety.

Nobody is against safety codes. The problem here is that safety was not the driver, "being green" was.

Our Navy is becoming steadily less functional because the ships are designed to be green, not fight wars. Biofuels are an excellent example.

I don't give a damn if they're green. I want them to be able to win.

Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 12:14 PM (LAe3v)

31 22 I have never seen that before. Where did you read that?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 12:09 PM (wYseH)

It was on a special they had on TV about a month after the collapse. They has some kind of construction engineer with diagrams who explained the whole thing. I'm sure a little judicious use of Bing can find it or something similar.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:15 PM (mpXpK)

32 "Going Green" probably cost us the Columbia.

Or so I have read. Not an expert.

Posted by: Adriane the Sci Fi Critic ... at June 25, 2017 12:15 PM (AoK0a)

33 Bet a fucking raghead set the fire. We'll never get the truth from the crooked government or those sooper sleuths in the media.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 12:16 PM (89T5c)

34 25 They stopped spraying asbestos protectant on the
structural steel because of the scare studies that were pushed at the
time. I assume that included the structural pins.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (IDPbH)

IIRC on that program they said there had been insulation on the columns and steel but the aircraft crash dislodged it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (mpXpK)

35 NYT?

I expect you could find more honest "reporting" in either Slate or The Nation.

Posted by: Charles Martel at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (6NPe1)

36 I'm sure a little judicious use of Bing can find it or something similar.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:15 PM (mpXpK)

Except it isn't true.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 12:18 PM (wYseH)

37 We all deal with the same thing everyday in our appliances, with dishwashers that no longer clean dishes, washing machines that take two hours to do a crappy job, toilets that don't flush (although they've gotten better), and CFLs.

I'd be a lot more enthusiastic if I knew the people making these rules had engineering degrees, or could at least pass calculus. That leaves out most politicians and bureaucrats.

Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 12:18 PM (LAe3v)

38 First thing my brother the firefighter said was "no sprinklers". No sprinklers in a high rise means lots of dead people.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 25, 2017 12:19 PM (qJhUV)

39 33 Bet a fucking raghead set the fire. We'll never get the truth from the crooked government or those sooper sleuths in the media.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 12:16 PM (89T5c)

--------------

It was started when a goat overturned a kerosene lantern.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 12:19 PM (Fmupd)

40 36
I'm sure a little judicious use of Bing can find it or something similar.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:15 PM (mpXpK)

Except it isn't true.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 12:18 PM (wYseH)

It was all logically explained and seemed true to me.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:19 PM (mpXpK)

41 tu3031 at June 25, 2017 12:19 PM (qJhUV)

Also, no external fire escapes.

Posted by: Adriane the Sci Fi Critic ... at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (AoK0a)

42 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (mpXpK)

That was the inferior substitute to the asbestos which was usually sprayed on.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (IDPbH)

43 33 Bet a fucking raghead set the fire. We'll never get the truth from the crooked government or those sooper sleuths in the media.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


The police revealed that the fire DID start in a Muslim's apartment -- but that it was caused by a new "green-friendly" refrigerator short-circuiting and exploding, not set intentionally. The refrigerator used pentane as the refrigerant, because pentane doesn't contribute to "the ozone hole" if it leaks out. All the residents were supplied with these explosive refrigerators, to meet "green" regulations.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

44 The grass really doesn't look that tall from my second-floor window.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 12:22 PM (sdi6R)

45 The police revealed that the fire DID start in a
Muslim's apartment -- but that it was caused by a new "green-friendly"
refrigerator short-circuiting and exploding, not set intentionally. The
refrigerator used pentane as the refrigerant, because pentane doesn't
contribute to "the ozone hole" if it leaks out. All the residents were
supplied with these explosive refrigerators, to meet "green"
regulations.

Posted by: zombie


Not to worry, those units will all be replaced. With scale-model Hindenburgs.

Posted by: pep at June 25, 2017 12:22 PM (LAe3v)

46 "short-circuiting and exploding, not set intentionally."

Short circuits don't just happen. If it wasn't built that way, something has to change to cause it.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:23 PM (ORmJ3)

47 We all deal with the same thing everyday in our appliances, with dishwashers that no longer clean dishes, washing machines that take two hours to do a crappy job, toilets that don't flush (although they've gotten better), and CFLs.
---

Yep.

And that's why I'll repair my old and trusty washer and dryer, as well as my old, water using toilets.

As for CFLs, you know those crazy people who horde light bulbs? Yep. That's me.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 12:25 PM (aT+Bx)

48 Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

Was the Muslim who lived in the apartment one of the 79 dead?

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:25 PM (IDPbH)

49 Light bulbs.

Old type worked great and were cheap so GE and their ilk had to bribe their congress goons to pass laws forcing people to buy their "new" "green" bulbs which are expensive and make GE and their ilk lots more cash for a product no one wanted.

Still didn't work, people hoarded old style bulbs and fought back by ripping their congress goon a new ass.

Over freaking light bulbs. Watermelons never sleep, they just keep getting greener on the outside and redder on the inside.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 12:25 PM (5VlCp)

50 This article could have been titled "Labour-run council builds horribly ugly public housing project, owns it for 40 years without basic safety features, contracts out management to politically connected outfit that slaps dangerous crap on the outside".

But no...

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 12:25 PM (TppKb)

51 All the residents were supplied with these explosive refrigerators, to meet "green" regulations.
--

Free exploding refrigerators? Allah be praised! That makes my job so much easier!!!

Posted by: Achmed, a Pieceful Muslim at June 25, 2017 12:27 PM (aT+Bx)

52 Ugh, why is none of this surprising?

Well, one part was surprising: apparently the guy whose fridge started the fire took the time to pack a few suitcases before informing his neighbors. No immediate call to 911, etc. Nice.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 12:29 PM (NOIQH)

53 48 Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

Was the Muslim who lived in the apartment one of the 79 dead?
Posted by: Jack Sock


Nope. In fact, the media praised him as a hero, because after his fridge blew up, he ran down the hallway telling everyone on his floor to get out of the building.

(Everyone on the twenty floors above, however -- did not get a warning.)

I don't know if this is actually true, or just a cover story -- but it is what was reported.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

54 "Free exploding refrigerators? Allah be praised! That makes my job so much easier!!!"

It really does sound like a handout of IEDs, doesn't it?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:30 PM (ORmJ3)

55 IIRC on that program they said there had been insulation on the columns and steel but the aircraft crash dislodged it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (mpXpK)

In a catastrophe of that nature, insulation can do nothing but slow (slightly) the ultimate failure of the steel it's on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 12:31 PM (XUcIQ)

56 Vic, the NIST report is linked below. It states what they found with testing, reports, etc. regarding why the towers imploded.

Very detailed and understandable to the lay person, and also answers all the conspiracy theorists, although they still refuse to believe.

https://www.nist.gov/el/faqs-nist-wtc-towers-investigation

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 12:31 PM (tCSTx)

57 It's my understanding that some of the original structural connectors were fished out of the WTC wreckage, undamaged by the fire and the collapse. When subjected to a forensic metallurgical inspection, some of them were found to be out of spec.

As in dramatically out of spec, to where it was clear they hadn't come from the authorized original suppliers, and the investigators couldn't tell where in the heck the things had originated.

I was shocked -- shocked!!! -- to learn that a highrise under the supervision of the New York Port Authority, that icon of clean government and operational competence, and built by mob-connected firms and unions, would have incorporated cut-rate ersatz materials that endangered the lives of the occupants.

Really, if you can't trust those (wise) guys, who can you?

The powers that be in NYC were in no hurry to have this subject brought up. I sometimes cynically wonder if the more lunatic sort of 9/11 conspiracy theories are deliberately encouraged by them.

There's a whole lot of money in large NYC public construction contracts. And there's a real incentive to keep noseyparkers from asking detailed questions about how the sausage is made.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 12:31 PM (ujwCG)

58 Hey, it's getting a lot shwarma in here.

Posted by: Goat raper on the 21st floor at June 25, 2017 12:31 PM (89T5c)

59 "It really does sound like a handout of IEDs, doesn't it?"

And with built-in plausible deniability. The evidence of tampering with the explosive refrigerator would be destroyed in the event. Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:32 PM (ORmJ3)

60 It really does sound like a handout of IEDs, doesn't it?
---

They are so badly made that even my goat can figure out how to made it be explode. Praise allah for the idiot kaffir and his government regulations.

Posted by: Achmed, a Pieceful Muslim at June 25, 2017 12:32 PM (aT+Bx)

61 42 That was the inferior substitute to the asbestos which was usually sprayed on.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:20 PM (IDPbH)

I was just looking at a big write up done more recently. it says the insulating material was being replaced and they were only partially through with the job. So in effect, parts of the building had no insulating material on the steel beams at all. It also said that as the steel weekended and began to undergo plastic deformation it bowed inward and could no longer support the load on it from above.

That is when it began to pancake down. The "pancaking" caused dynamic loads on the floors below which had already been weekended by fires from the interior. They in turn began to pancake.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

62 WTC had an unusual design which made it susceptible to an attack by large jet craft. Totally foreseeable.

The floors were suspended from a hard inner core and pillars around the perimeter. The core held the elevators and plumbing and such. When a floor broke away from its moorings it would drop onto the floor below, breaking it away from its moorings, and so on. This effect accelerated (makes me think of 45 rpm record players) which has led to the rumors that explosives must have been planted throughout the towers for this to be possible.

Nearly everyone below the fireline survived, but everyone above it died.

I was just at the 9/11 Museum, which I recommend, but I saw nearly no mention of the estimated 200 jumpers. These were nearly all from the first-hit North Tower. Theory is that after over an hour of burning the heat and smoke became overwhelming and drove people to jump.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 12:34 PM (pV/54)

63 1 It's worse than that -- the WHOLE REASON they needed to re-cover the buildings with "cladding" in the first place was to meet "green" climate-change regulations.

The disaster was caused by the environmentalists, not by greedy businessmen.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (DQ4Fv)

++++

The thermal cladding was installed in accordance with the demands of Gaia. The lives of those who were burned alive should be thought of as a necessary sacrifice to remain in our Goddess's good graces.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 25, 2017 12:39 PM (WzbqD)

64 Its like they thought he Hindenburg would be safe if they stuck it end-up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 12:40 PM (oVJmc)

65 LED light bulbs beat both CFLs and incandescent bulbs. Sure LEDs are expensive but they last forever. CFLs suck donkey pud.

Posted by: USNtakim at June 25, 2017 12:41 PM (zZWkn)

66 This is just odd...either the guy is an idiot or evi:

The man whose flat caught fire first in Grenfell Tower packed a bag of clothes before raising the alarm, it was claimed.

His pregnant neighbourMaryam Adam, said that he knocked on her door to warn her about the fire at 12.50am.

At that point he had already prepared to leave the building by packing possessions into a holdall, she claimed.

The fire brigade was called at 12.54am and arrived within six minutes.

Maryam, 41, described how she could see the fire in the man's kitchen
through his open front door, saying it still appeared small at that
time
.



http://preview.tinyurl.com/yc2juzrj

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 12:41 PM (NOIQH)

67 Still didn't work, people hoarded old style bulbs and fought back by ripping their congress goon a new ass.

Over freaking light bulbs. Watermelons never sleep, they just keep getting greener on the outside and redder on the inside.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 12:25 PM (5VlCp)

I just discovered that Newcandescent, the company that bought all the light bulb patterns from GE and was producing rough service incandescent bulbs, has apparently discontinued them and only has LED's. Sigh...

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 12:42 PM (tCSTx)

68 62
Theory is that after over an hour of burning the heat and smoke became overwhelming and drove people to jump.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 12:34 PM (pV/54)


People almost always jump from burning buildings. I guess it's an automatic reflex against heat and suffocation.

In the case of the WTC, I read that some of the people may not have deliberately jumped, but as they crowded near the openings gasping for breath, were inadvertently pushed out by the crush of people behind them. Horrible.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 12:43 PM (sdi6R)

69 Mrs al-O'Leary's goat knocked over an oil lamp.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 12:44 PM (kTF2Z)

70 Ban DDT. It's for the birds.

Posted by: Environmental Scientist and Chemist Rachel Carson at June 25, 2017 12:44 PM (JO9+V)

71 Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 12:41 PM (NOIQH)

That totally doesn't sound "off" at all .

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 12:45 PM (sEDyY)

72 I just discovered that Newcandescent, the company that bought all the light bulb patterns from GE and was producing rough service incandescent bulbs, has apparently discontinued them and only has LED's. Sigh...
Posted by: Jen the original


As I've mentioned many times -- just go to Chinatown. At least around here (SF Bay Area), the Chinese-owned store sell normal incandescent bulbs, and nobody stops them from doing so. I can get incandescent bulbs whenever I want, even though they are "illegal."

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

73 "WTC had an unusual design which made it susceptible to an attack by large jet craft. Totally foreseeable."

Osama bin Laden trained in civil engineering.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 12:46 PM (ujwCG)

74 LEDs are fine if you don't live in a lightning prone area like the SE. sure they last a long time unless they get a big voltage surge which knocks out that huge investment.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 12:47 PM (mpXpK)

75 Gotta give LED's credit. I like them.


Early whole house adopter, who has seen a significant downward spike in electrical consumption.

With no real alteration of usage patterns.


Now what is amazing me is those new ART Deco, or decorative retro look bulbs with the stylized globe, and filaments that are sometime two inches long. But...they are dimmable LEDs.

I love 'em.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 12:47 PM (J+eG2)

76 "The New York times knows these facts (that the
disaster was caused by re-covering the building to make is more
"sustainable" to meet climate change regulations), and yet produce this
lie-filled propaganda garbage.



Posted by: zombie"

The carbon footprint of the former residents has been dramatically reduced so it's all good with the left.

Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2017 12:47 PM (MxEKc)

77 Yet they never go with the "environmental" aspect of this just the rich builders and developers...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2017 12:47 PM (O2RFr)

78 "The carbon footprint of the former residents has been dramatically reduced so it's all good with the left."

Good thing that the fire didn't release any carbon into the atmosphere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 12:49 PM (J+eG2)

79 My first year of an engineering drafting course in 1979 ( I was Eric Stratton , pre-everything) , we were assigned a project to design safety features for a high rise. I ended up designing a center located spiral slide that traveled 3 stories at a time encased in asbestos infused concrete. I always think of that when discussing the WTC . Yeah it would have been destroyed and useless to anyone above the crash floors. There was an influx of products put on the market for high rise escape after 9/11.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:49 PM (IDPbH)

80 When subjected to a forensic metallurgical inspection, some of them were found to be out of spec.


I had occasion to speak with someone who looked at the steel under an electron microscope, and yes, the metal was out of spec. Not hugely, but there were impurities where there were not supposed to be any.

The person was not a structural engineer and had no ax to grind, but simply said it was not as pure as what it was supposed to be.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 12:49 PM (PduNE)

81 "Osama bin Laden trained in civil engineering."

My local civil engineering college is *awash* in Muslims...

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:50 PM (ORmJ3)

82 I was reading the comments here as the building was burning.
A number of comments about how the building was going to collapse.
How long did it take before that happened?

Architects and Engineers on 911 is on you tube.
Or you can trust some construction engineer that was on tv because, as we all know, it's only over the last few years that the media has gone totally in the tank for the globalists and that the "deep state" didn't exist before barky came along.

Posted by: teej at June 25, 2017 12:51 PM (NUb9I)

83 CFLs suck donkey pud.
---
CFLs are only good in one instance.

If you put them in a fixture that is turned on ONCE and then turned off hours later, they're OK.

However, if they're in a light-- like in a bathroom-- that is turned on then off a lot, they'll die really, really early.

Posted by: Achmed, a Pieceful Muslim at June 25, 2017 12:51 PM (aT+Bx)

84 I think LEDs are the future of lighting. They are much more efficient than incandescents, so that's real progress. I haven't actually bought any yet, as I'm still working through my hoard of incandescent bulbs.

CFLs will one day be regarded as the eight-track tapes of lighting.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 12:51 PM (sdi6R)

85 Osama bin Laden trained in civil engineering.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 12:46 PM (ujwCG)

He bragged afterwards that he "knew" the towers would implode. I don't believe that, he was just "lucky" in that the destruction was so complete.

It's actually not known for certain if he had a degree in civil engineering as no one will say if he did indeed graduate from college. He has been said to have studied business, civil engineering, etc. but college was where he became so interested in religion and Islamic study.

So who knows.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 12:52 PM (tCSTx)

86 OOops.

Sock off.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 12:52 PM (aT+Bx)

87 I hate CFLs, mostly because I've never seen them last as long as they claimed.

LEDs are fine with me, low heat, light is fine, and a lifespan that means I should never have to change them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 12:53 PM (oVJmc)

88 Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 12:52 PM (tCSTx)

Didn't his family own construction companies? I think he knew how to build roads.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:53 PM (IDPbH)

89 One of the more fascinating things about the WTC collapse is how few bodies were found (just bone chips and fragments). It was the same thing with office equipment. Everything was ground to fragments and dust in that collapse.

But there were hundreds if not thousands of shoes found intact. Very strange what the forces that were unleashed that day did..

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (Fmupd)

90 "I haven't actually bought any yet, as I'm still working through my hoard of incandescent bulbs. "

If nothing else, buy two of them.

One for the front, and one for the back porch.

Those two will pay for themselves quickly due to being left on all night.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (J+eG2)

91 I just discovered that Newcandescent, the company that bought all the light bulb patterns from GE and was producing rough service incandescent bulbs, has apparently discontinued them and only has LED's. Sigh...
Posted by: Jen the original
As I've mentioned many times -- just go to Chinatown. At least around here (SF Bay Area), the Chinese-owned store sell normal incandescent bulbs, and nobody stops them from
doing so. I can get incandescent bulbs whenever
I want, even though they are "illegal."
Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:45 PM (DQ4Fv)
Yup...I call it ghetto shopping. The Dollar Store, raghead mom and pop shops, the old Thai lady who used to be a whore but now has a knick knack shop. 100 watts old school bulbs, even 120 at times. I love sticking it to the green marxists. Plus I can pick up some purple drank and cigarillos while I am visiting.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 12:55 PM (5VlCp)

92 I used to design mechanical and electrical systems for commercial buildings, now I spend most of my time trying to comply with regulations, codes and LEED/green requirements and a little design work on the side. I'd estimate about 70% of the green/sustainability aspect is pure BS just meant as a smokescreen and keeps the bureaucrats and green raters happy. The other 30% are some good energy saving advances and ideas that most people would do anyway because, as it turns out, building owners actually don't like wasting energy (and money) as the left seems to believe.

Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2017 12:55 PM (MxEKc)

93
Now now, you can't expect that regulations are also for the govt and the well connected. Those are only for the plebes.

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at June 25, 2017 12:55 PM (r+sAi)

94 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (J+eG2)

That's what I've done. I also have one in the garage that hasn't been shut off in over a year.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:56 PM (IDPbH)

95
I just hit a CFL bulb with an infrared temp gauge and it's 130 degrees. A same brightness LED bulb was 80 degrees.

If air conditioning is an issue, LED's are significantly cooler.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 12:56 PM (PduNE)

96 If you put them in a fixture that is turned on ONCE and then turned off hours later, they're OK.

However, if they're in a light-- like in a bathroom-- that is turned on then off a lot, they'll die really, really early.


Posted by: Achmed

We use the CFL for a couple of lights that we have on timers. On at dusk, off around 11:30 pm.
Other then that, I can't see to read by them, and they provide crappy light for a large room.

Posted by: Bruce at June 25, 2017 12:57 PM (8ikIW)

97 Fire Codes and Building Codes are written in blood.

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2017 12:57 PM (4dz1m)

98 As I've mentioned many times -- just go to Chinatown. At least around here (SF Bay Area), the Chinese-owned store sell normal incandescent bulbs, and nobody stops them from doing so. I can get incandescent bulbs whenever I want, even though they are "illegal."
Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 12:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

You can order incandescent bulbs of all sorts and sizes from numerous online lighting supply stores, along with all the old school fluorescent light bulbs.

I need old school fluorescents for the garage, barn, etc. and the occasional incandescents for specific areas of our property and order them online. The Newcandscent company was featured five or six years ago on Rush, and the bulbs were made in NJ at their little plant. They would send your order, each bulb in it's cardboard closed box, with a spare box full of tiny wrapped tootsie rolls as a thank you.

Good old American manufacturing and service. Yes, they were three dollars a bulb, but worth it if you wanted them.

Sad to see that end.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tCSTx)

99 Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 12:56 PM (PduNE)

Big advantage of LED TVs.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:58 PM (IDPbH)

100 I'd estimate about 70% of the green/sustainability
aspect is pure BS just meant as a smokescreen and keeps the bureaucrats
and green raters happy. The other 30% are some good energy saving
advances and ideas that most people would do anyway because, as it turns
out, building owners actually don't like wasting energy (and money) as
the left seems to believe. Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2017 12:55 PM (MxEKc)
=====

^^^THIS^^^

Who really wants to be wasteful: nobody.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 12:58 PM (MIKMs)

101 I used to design mechanical and electrical systems for commercial buildings, now I spend most of my time trying to comply with regulations, codes and LEED/green requirements and a little design work on the side. I'd estimate about 70% of the green/sustainability aspect is pure BS just meant as a smokescreen and keeps the bureaucrats and green raters happy. The other 30% are some good energy saving advances and ideas that most people would do anyway because, as it turns out, building owners actually don't like wasting energy (and money) as the left seems to believe.
Posted by: Ripley at June




usually tenants do not really care about the energy costs nearly as much as the landlords.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2017 12:59 PM (0wem/)

102 Reynolds made a FIRE RESISTANT cladding panel.

It wasn't used because it wasn't as energy efficient as the flammable foam filled panel.

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2017 12:59 PM (4dz1m)

103 Time for some new bumper stickers:

Green Technology Kills


and


Progressive Politics Kill

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

104 "That's what I've done. I also have one in the garage that hasn't been shut off in over a year."

There are times that Mrs VIA has mentioned me leaving a light on that isn't needed.



PFFTT....it's only 9 watts isn't really a well thought out response on my part.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 01:00 PM (J+eG2)

105 Whether they used polystyrene or polyethylene as the filler between the AL sheeting as cladding, either is flammable once they get hot enough. They could have used regular fiberglass batting, and that would have been safe to use. But much weightier. Probably a lot more expensive.

There are fire retardant additives that could have been added to the cladding filler such as aluminum oxide hydrate, and it is cheap but it takes a lot of it and it is heavy.

But what they actually did was strap gasoline to the building.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 25, 2017 01:00 PM (6jaju)

106 "My local civil engineering college is *awash* in Muslims..."

Several American universities found themselves with a dearth of citizen applicants for their nuclear engineering programs, after it had become clear that the ecoholic left were successfully lawfaring civilian nuclear power out of existence in the States.

Desperate to keep the programs running, the deans of engineering at those schools instead filled up all those nuclear-engineering seats with eager Iranian applicants.

Not that there would be any grounds to question that concept.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 01:01 PM (ujwCG)

107 I don't leave my porch lights on at night, but I actually have a few CFLs in lamps that I leave on when I'm away from home. I bought them years before they were mandated.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 01:01 PM (sdi6R)

108 I'm one of those who has a couple of hundred old light bulbs in the garage. The new LEDs are fine, but us hicks out here in the country don't just use light bulbs to give our water pipes mood lighting or let our animals read late into the night.

Light bulbs = cheap, easy, safe heat.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at June 25, 2017 01:01 PM (c2K1w)

109 Who really wants to be wasteful: nobody.
---

We're OK with it. You see, if we don't spend the money, we won't get as much next year.

Also, we're looking to purchase a $1,000 hammer. And a $20,000 toilet.

Posted by: U.S. Government at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (aT+Bx)

110 Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

The bumper sticker I want comes in a series. ' If you have____, thank a Liberal'

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (IDPbH)

111 Another thing about LEDs is that our local electric utility subsidizes the cost of certain bulbs.

I suppose the reduction in load demands over time makes that a winning position for the utilities.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (oVJmc)

112 Almost forgot.

We replaced all our 120volt patio lights with LEDs as well . Nine 75 watt bulbs can gulp some electrons.

Now?

81Watts total for all of them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (J+eG2)

113 Perhaps I missed it but nowhere in the article did I see the word "Green".

Posted by: Javems at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (yOqwj)

114 Mercedes, Audi and other German auto manufacturers have been experimenting for a few years with a new type of "green" air conditioning fluid. It is supposedly more friendly to the environment than current fluids.

Only downside is that it too is highly flammable which means that minor accidents can now turn cars into Car-B-Qs if the fluid leaks onto a hot engine.

If they go ahead with this new fluid, expect to see cars with mandatory fire suppression systems which likely won't be green and will add $$ to the price of each car.

Liberals. Is there anything they can't screw up?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 01:03 PM (/tuJf)

115 Light bulbs = cheap, easy, safe heat.
=====

EasyBake Ovens hardest hit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 01:04 PM (MIKMs)

116 Sadly, 'twas Ever Thus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RicaXxiU1WM

Posted by: jic at June 25, 2017 01:04 PM (d1OeB)

117 "Liberals. Is there anything they can't screw up?"

Islam


They don't seem to have effected it at all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 01:04 PM (J+eG2)

118 Didn't his family own construction companies? I think he knew how to build roads.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 12:53 PM (IDPbH)

Yes, his dad was a mega builder in Saudi Arabia. His mother, LOL, was the tenth wife of his father, who obviously had a harem and bin Ladin has a huge number of half siblings, and I think had four of five full siblings.

Story was that Bin Ladin had his own construction company after college, but again, his focus was on becoming a muhajideen in Afghanistan and living the jihadi lifestyle.

Oh, and I believe he had half a dozen wives also.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 01:05 PM (tCSTx)

119 "filled up all those nuclear-engineering seats with eager Iranian applicants."

Fun fact. The guy in charge of the (small) Nuclear Engineering program at that same school is Iranian. So is the EE department deputy chair, now that I think about it...

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:05 PM (ORmJ3)

120 I haven't been keeping up with the light bulb stuff, I stocked up on incandescents years ago, when that meddling s.o.b. in the Bush II admin put the hex on them.

And then CA banned 75 and 100 watt incandescents.
The week after, what were in the stores?

74 and 96 watt incandescents.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (w7KSn)

121 Fucking rich people. They ruin everything. Wish everyone was poor. Life would be so much more fulfilling. I'd be able to keep my 70" flat screen tho, right?

Posted by: MSTisdale at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (g9d8D)

122 Cover story at The Times:
Can Trump Destroy Obama's Legacy?
The president seems determined to undo what his predecessor did.

Yep. That Bannon whiteboard was a To Do list.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (pV/54)

123 121 Fucking rich people. They ruin everything. Wish everyone was poor. Life would be so much more fulfilling. I'd be able to keep my 70" flat screen tho, right?
Posted by: MSTisdale at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (g9d8D)

I think you meant ' fucking rich liberal people'.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 01:08 PM (IDPbH)

124
I love the LED's in the kitchen because I used to be able to feel the heat from them on my scalp from a foot and a half to two feet away. No longer.

It was okay in the winter, but the last thing I want in the summer. They don't take to dimming way down, but in the kitchen it's a pretty binary thing.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 01:08 PM (PduNE)

125 Not to mention I've seen heat tape burn down waaaay too many things to put it in my well house. Pump and pipe repairs in 5 degree weather? No thanks, I'm fine. I'll just use this old light bulb.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at June 25, 2017 01:08 PM (c2K1w)

126 I suppose someone should fix the spelling of the word "government" in the headline before someone reads it as an unintended meaning...

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 01:08 PM (w7KSn)

127 Regarding the exploding fridge, the Greenfell Tower Action Group blog has several posts about dangerous power surges that have wracked the building over the years. There was one that took about appliances in over 30 apartments in 2013.

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/why-are-we-waiting/

It was a 1970s era building, I wouldn't be surprised if they used crappy aluminum wiring in the building.

Posted by: FarkinClownshoes at June 25, 2017 01:09 PM (X3ClC)

128 >>> It's actually not known for certain if he had a degree in civil engineering as no one will say if he did indeed graduate from college.

"Didn't his family own construction companies? I think he knew how to build roads."

OBL is generally credited with having laid out the original design of the cave-bunker complex at Tora Bora, and overseeing its initial construction, during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He then later expanded and modified the design in the interwar years.

It was a tough nut to crack, when it was finally attacked.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 01:10 PM (ujwCG)

129 I like LEDs. I'm not so stubborn that I can't see better technology when it's introduced. And LEDs are better technology than incandescents.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 01:12 PM (Fmupd)

130 Another thing about LEDs is that our local electric utility subsidizes the cost of certain bulbs.

I suppose the reduction in load demands over time makes that a winning position for the utilities.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 01:02 PM (oVJmc)

Ah yes, Our electric company has become worse than the environazi's for wanting you to cut consumption of their product. The CEO is a huge environazi and my guess that is how the greens plan to continue their worship of gaia is by planting as many of their bretheren in the utility companies as possible.

I get constantly harassed about how much electric usage I have compared to the neighbors, etc. Reports are sent via snail mail to me monthly, which is a total waste of paper, fuel and time.

Constantly wanting me to have one of their
green experts out to assess my home usage and suggest ways to cut down on energy usage.

Of course, to change out all of my fluorescents to LED's would create a financial cost that wouldn't be paid back for a couple of decades, but hey, I could stand proud.

Our electric provider also is determined to close any and all coal fired plants they own, despite the fact that the state is not asking them to do so. They just want to do it because, as I pointed out, many on the BOD for DTE are green Nazi's as is the CEO.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 01:12 PM (tCSTx)

131 It was a tough nut to crack, when it was finally attacked

---------------

Tactical nuke would've done the job nicely.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 01:13 PM (kTF2Z)

132 Overall, I am happy with the cheaper bills with the CFL bulbs (can't afford the LEDs yet), but in the colder climes, they are not very good. Makes me nuts that people who live in an area that never experiences subzero temps are mandating, regulating, and legislating nonsense for people who live colder.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 01:13 PM (MIKMs)

133 GREENPEACE Is marketing the "Greenfreeze" refrigerators using the potentially explosive refrigerant.

The pentane or propane refrigerant is efficient, and is not as bad a "greenhouse gas" as non flammable CFCs like Freon.

Works fine, until you get a leak. If the pentane leaks into your kitchen, no problem! The air dilutes the gas, and there is nothing to burn or explode.

If it leaks into the refrigerator? You get a nice fuel air mixture, just like a FAE bomb. Combine that with a cheap thermostat INSIDE the refrigerator that sparks everytime it turns off the compressor,

BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!

Happens a few times a month with these wonderful refrigerators.

They make intrisically safe thermostats, that don't spark. They can design thermostats, so there are no electric motor contactors inside the refrigerator. That all costs money, it might be $2-$5 per unit. That $2.00 might lose them the government bid!

Just like the flammable cladding. Non flammable, rock wool insulated cladding was available. It wasn't as efficient, it wasn't as cheap. Guess what the government specifies?

Government is a killer.

Do not get me started on the horrors of British National Health Service. Euthanasia by neglect.

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2017 01:14 PM (4dz1m)

134 >>I like LEDs. I'm not so stubborn that I can't see better technology when it's introduced. And LEDs are better technology than incandescents.

Which is fine. That's how it's supposed to work, better technology replacing inferior technology.

What's not supposed to happen is government mandating it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 01:15 PM (/tuJf)

135 "And LEDs are better technology than incandescents."

Then why the need for government-imposed mandates.

GE is my most hated company, going back to Jack Welch -- the first celebrity CEO and the king of outsourcing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 01:15 PM (pV/54)

136 @130,

Same thing here. This house was rebuilt in 2006 due to a fire. It's better insulated than the neighbors. It has electric hest and an electric dryer. I run two Austin Air HEPA filters, which is probably what they object to. And we use fans, not airconditioning.

I lived without electricity for eight years and I get real tired of being told how to use it by a bunch of folks that have always had it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2017 01:17 PM (Lqy/e)

137 Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 01:08 PM (w7KSn)

I would love to claim that it was done in jest, but it was simple dumbassery.

Fixed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 01:18 PM (wYseH)

138 120
I haven't been keeping up with the light bulb stuff, I stocked up on
incandescents years ago, when that meddling s.o.b. in the Bush II admin
put the hex on them.



And then CA banned 75 and 100 watt incandescents.

The week after, what were in the stores?



74 and 96 watt incandescents.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (w7KSn)

That wasn't the bush admin. It was Kate Upton's uncle who is a Senator

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:20 PM (mpXpK)

139 Posted by GnuBreed

*******

I was on a crew years ago retrofitting a 5-story office bld in Phoenix. Some guys pulling the coating off the exterior balcony areas from concrete and pipe decided one day to try torching it from hard to reach areas. Thankfully the interior had been gutted and it was all concrete & brick because the batting lit like it was soaked in gas.

Posted by: MSTisdale at June 25, 2017 01:20 PM (g9d8D)

140
135 "And LEDs are better technology than incandescents."

Then why the need for government-imposed mandates.

GE is my most hated company, going back to Jack Welch -- the first celebrity CEO and the king of outsourcing.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 01:15 PM (pV/54)

------------

The mandates were for CFL lighting, not LEDs. LEDs didn't really hit the public market until a few years after congress passed the bill against incandescents.

LEDs are a product of non-government enterprise.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 01:22 PM (Fmupd)

141 Ah yes, Our electric company has become worse than
the environazi's for wanting you to cut consumption of their product.
The CEO is a huge environazi and my guess that is how the greens plan to
continue their worship of gaia is by planting as many of their
bretheren in the utility companies as possible.



I get constantly harassed about how much electric usage I have
compared to the neighbors, etc. Reports are sent via snail mail to me
monthly, which is a total waste of paper, fuel and time.



Constantly wanting me to have one of their
green experts out to assess my home usage and suggest ways to cut down on energy usage.




Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 01:12 PM (tCSTx)
..

Lemme guess: you have SCE?

I still get those mildly condescending, harassing emails, even though after buying a new fridge and replacing all the lights in my house with LEDs, they still claim I'm using "60% more than my neighbors", even though my electric bill is at least 30% lower than last year for the same month.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at June 25, 2017 01:22 PM (U3sWw)

142 Happened on Bush II's watch, he could have stopped it.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 01:23 PM (w7KSn)

143 Fred Upton was a Representative.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

144 I lived without electricity for eight years and I
get real tired of being told how to use it by a bunch of folks that have
always had it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2017 01:17 PM (Lqy/e)

I swapped my incandescents in the kitchen for dimmable LEDs once they became reasonably priced. I like the reduction in heat in the summer, and I prefer the slightly different color. Also, the kitchen lights are on all of the time, so I like not having to change them regularly.

I wrote the installation date on every LED, so when they burn out before the stated life, I will be getting free ones.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 01:26 PM (wYseH)

145 There are LED alternatives for halogen bulbs, too, which I am grateful for because I HATE halogen bulbs and my wife came home with a halogen fixture for the hallway the other day.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 01:26 PM (oVJmc)

146 Melanie Phillips wrote an excellent summation of what is ailing Britain and America politcialy.

--
In both America and Britain people are now murmuring about civil war

Theres a long way to go before that becomes a real possibility. The fact people are talking about it at all though shows what a dangerous moment this is.

On both sides of the pond a titanic struggle to the death is under way for the soul of the West.

I think it fits with what many of us have been witnessing. and a good explanation I especially like her terminology "political depravity. she mentions The towering inferno and its usefulness.
and the lefts ongoing propaganda.

so I hope everyone checks it out.
Melanie phillips writes "As I see it"

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:27 PM (v12G8)

147 The Green-Fell Towering Inferno of Gaea worship. The dirty truth is going Green kills people, but then it's better they "die and decrease the surplus population."

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 01:27 PM (d3wbb)

148 ugh, pixy, , had to remove every comma and period to make a go of it.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:27 PM (v12G8)

149 Melanie Phillips wrote this commentary at @jeruslam post

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:28 PM (v12G8)

150 I'd be shocked if the power companies' LED subsidies don't have the governments hand pushing them.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at June 25, 2017 01:28 PM (c2K1w)

151 >>I still get those mildly condescending, harassing emails, even though after buying a new fridge and replacing all the lights in my house with LEDs, they still claim I'm using "60% more than my neighbors", even though my electric bill is at least 30% lower than last year for the same month.

I hate those letters. What they fail to take into consideration is that about half my neighborhood is vacation homes meaning there is nobody in the house for lots of the year and I work at home and they don't.

They should give me an award for paying a higher bill not a wagging finger.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 01:28 PM (/tuJf)

152 7,
"That type of cladding is banned in the US by the building codes."

It is banned for buildings higher that two stories.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 01:30 PM (d3wbb)

153 "In both America and Britain people are now murmuring about civil war"

In Britain? I've not heard that. What do they intend to fight with? Sticks? Even knives are banned in that place.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:31 PM (ORmJ3)

154 140
135 "And LEDs are better technology than incandescents."

Then why the need for government-imposed mandates.

GE is my most hated company, going back to Jack Welch -- the first celebrity CEO and the king of outsourcing.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 01:15 PM (pV/54)

------------

The mandates were for CFL lighting, not LEDs. LEDs didn't really hit the public market until a few years after congress passed the bill against incandescents.

LEDs are a product of non-government enterprise.
Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 01:22 PM (Fmupd)

That's a good point.

Posted by: charleyhorse at June 25, 2017 01:32 PM (+kahX)

155 >>Do not get me started on the horrors of British National Health Service. Euthanasia by neglect.

Ain't got shit on us!

Posted by: The VA at June 25, 2017 01:33 PM (/Nite)

156 Apostate, one can wonder. they seem to have the same dilemma as we do , how to fight legally while being shoved into hell.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:33 PM (v12G8)

157 Builders in Britain were allowed to wrap residential apartment towers -- perhaps several hundred of them -- from top to bottom in highly flammable materials

As long as they're all located in no-go zones, I consider that to be a good thing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 01:33 PM (xAvrH)

158 anyway srsly she articulates the wests struggle well.
please read it.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:33 PM (v12G8)

159 *points to #84*

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 01:34 PM (sdi6R)

160 They should give me an award for paying a higher bill not a wagging finger.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 01:28 PM (/tuJf)

The constant nagging from our betters.

My mom's house is empty. The stupid fucks assumed the meter was broken so they just extrapolated to some reasonable rate of consumption. And then they sent one of those letters about how much of a Gaia hater my mom is....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 01:34 PM (wYseH)

161 Builders in Britain were allowed to wrap residential apartment towers
-- perhaps several hundred of them -- from top to bottom in highly
flammable materials


So, basically, ISIS could burn down a high rise with a single road flare.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 01:34 PM (oVJmc)

162 In Britain? I've not heard that. What do they intend to fight with? Sticks? Even knives are banned in that place.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:31 PM (ORmJ3)

But the Government does not have much of a military to suppress insurrection there either...

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 01:35 PM (NgKpN)

163 ok i'll ask CBD to read it If he already hasnt' and ask him iff he is willing to expound on it..

hears click of the ignore feature.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:36 PM (v12G8)

164 (like this will work)

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:37 PM (v12G8)

165 So.... no mention that the CAUSE of the fire, was because of the EU's government regulated Coolant in a refrigerator?

So the Cause, which is of course too much regulation... but now they blame not enough regulation?

1984

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 01:37 PM (NgKpN)

166 24,

"On the 2nd floor. Of an Army building. Without an elevator."

My wife is in a wheelchair, I once booked a handicap accessible hotel room where it turned out to be on the 2nd floor of a place with no elevators. Canceled when we got there and saw it and booked another room at a different hotel.

BTW the only public bathrooms we can use are the ones called "family bathrooms" since I have to assist her.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 01:37 PM (d3wbb)

167
I have something more than 150 light bulbs in my house. Screw the utility company, I'm not changing them all. But where it makes sense, and the pay-back is the fastest, I have changed.

I'm not replacing a broom closet light bulb (75 incandescent) with an LED that gets turned on for maybe ten minutes a week. Not until I get my 2,000th hour out of it.

But if you have a series of light-bulbs fifteen feet off the ground and they're incandescent, save yourself future ladder work and replace 'em all with LED's and end that job forever.

Also, the utility company energy comparison flyer. They have three categories; your usage, your neighbors average usage, and the 'most efficient homes'. I use less than neighbors, but there's no way anyone hits the 'most efficient homes' numbers. That's pure bullshit based on government predictions of usage, which seems to be based on people who neither cook, clean, shower, or wash their clothes.

Although, come to think of it -- that might describe some democrats in the 'base'.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 01:38 PM (PduNE)

168 >>So, basically, ISIS could burn down a high rise with a single road flare.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Ha, those road flares aren't cheap. We'll send Achmed with a Bic lighter over to handle the job.

Posted by: ISIS at June 25, 2017 01:38 PM (/Nite)

169 >>The constant nagging from our betters.

Massachusetts was one of if not the first state to go with a full smoking ban in public buildings. The only exception? Why the State House of course.

I was doing some work in the building at the time and it was not uncommon at all to see and sell cigar smoke wafting through the halls.

Liberals are the very definition of hypocrites.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 01:39 PM (/tuJf)

170 Those of you on the morning threads know of my deep dive into insanity with green energy vs brown energy and the enabling legislation for small towns who join a coop to lower prices and then pay higher prices because green.

But we get Renewable Energy Certificates for our goodness.

God save the mark.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 01:40 PM (MIKMs)

171 hears click of the ignore feature.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:36 PM (v12G

It's an excellent editorial.

http://tinyurl.com/ybdjp2ts

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 01:43 PM (wYseH)

172 Since it's a new day, I'll ask this again.

Does anyone here know anything about real, no-shit penetration hacking? I had an interesting conversation last week and would like to hear from someone in that game, if possible.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:43 PM (ORmJ3)

173 "Also, the utility company energy comparison flyer. They have three categories; your usage, your neighbors average usage, and the 'most efficient homes'. I use less than neighbors, but there's no way anyone hits the 'most efficient homes' numbers. That's pure bullshit based on government predictions of usage, which seems to be based on people who neither cook, clean, shower, or wash their clothes. "

BGE sends me one every month extolling my excessive electrical usage.

Total LED lighting
Every appliance, heating and A/C are high efficiency.
Reinsulated walls and attic.
Every window is high efficiency
Awnings around all windows in summer


For a conservative, I'm a pretty green minded MoFo.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 01:44 PM (J+eG2)

174 Oh, in case anybody didn't know, little Billy (Bomber) Ayers is a trust fund baby from Commonwealth Edison's CEO.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

175 Radicals like Ayers are invariably born well-off.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 25, 2017 01:46 PM (pV/54)

176 "Tactical nuke would've done the job nicely [at Tora Bora]."

However.

The senior Delta commander on scene requested an air drop of gator mines to prevent bin Laden and his lieutenants from exfiltrating on foot out the back side of the bunker complex.

Dubya Bush refused to authorize even that.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (ujwCG)

177 >>So, basically, ISIS could burn down a high rise with a single road flare.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Ha, those road flares aren't cheap. We'll send Achmed with a Bic lighter over to handle the job.

Posted by: ISIS


No problem, as long as they keep it to their own neighborhoods, like BLM does.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (xAvrH)

178 The world has a fever and we have to DO something, other wise we might lose our phony baloney jobs! I've got it! Let's ban incandescent light bulbs. Sure, it will inconvenience millions, but it jus might reduce the global temp by .00000001 degrees by 2070. Even better is that none of us will be alive then so we can't be held accountable. Genius!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (kTF2Z)

179 Lemme guess: you have SCE?
Posted by: Spiny Norman at June 25, 2017 01:22 PM (U3sWw)

No Detroit Edison. They are not only my electric provider, but they also own the natural gas company, who they bought about a decade ago.

The handle all the power and gas needs for a good chunk of Southeast Michigan. It also has a large portfolio of secondary businesses in the energy sector that provides energy related services and commodities to many other states in the USA.

You all might be surprised to find your state receives services from them, all the way to CA.

https://www.newlook.dteenergy.com/wps/wcm/connect/dte-web/home/about-dte/common/about-dte/about-dte

Posted by: Jen the original at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (tCSTx)

180 If anybody in the Horde knew about hacking, we'd have hacked pixyware into something resembling 21st century software.



(I keed, I keed)

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (sdi6R)

181
I've gone on tirades in the past to cut electric usage, looked at my bill the next month and smiled. Then a couple months later, the bill is back to where it was, but I have a brand new meter hung on the side of the house. On the ground in front of the new meter are the old security clips.

It's like they have a supply of 'hot' meters ready to install if someones usage dips.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 01:48 PM (PduNE)

182 Charlie Brown, I also think this sentence ;'The result of all this turmoil is that the revolutionary Left thinks its moment has come".
is a great short explanation of what total insanity we are witnessing now.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:49 PM (v12G8)

183 172 Since it's a new day, I'll ask this again.

Does anyone here know anything about real, no-shit penetration hacking? I had an interesting conversation last week and would like to hear from someone in that game, if possible.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:43 PM (ORmJ3)

-----------

You're wanting a hacker to admit he's a hacker on this blog?

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 01:49 PM (Fmupd)

184 or microcosm

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:49 PM (v12G8)

185 183 172 Since it's a new day, I'll ask this again.

Does anyone here know anything about real, no-shit penetration hacking? I had an interesting conversation last week and would like to hear from someone in that game, if possible.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:43 PM (ORmJ3)

-----------

You're wanting a hacker to admit he's a hacker on this blog?

Good luck with that.
Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2017 01:49 PM (Fmupd)

Yeah.... I used to know a hacker, but I lost his contact information in the Great Canoe incident right before I moved to California.... amazing what all I lost....

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 01:51 PM (NgKpN)

186 The thing that has always got me about that incandescent light bulb ban was what they actually expected in energy savings. The lighting usage in your home is inconsequential compared to the other loads.


You may burn 1 or 2 100 light bulbs for a couple of hours a day. Maybe 1 or 2 KW over a month. Your hot water heat and A/C (or heat pump) soak it up by the ton. Changing out an incandescent bulb for a CFL really doesn't save shit. The whole thing is a FARCE.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:51 PM (mpXpK)

187 What did you want to know, Apostate?

Posted by: Bob from NSA at June 25, 2017 01:53 PM (kTF2Z)

188 And besides that, ALL residential usage is a piss in the ocean compared to industrial and commercial.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

189 >>In Britain? I've not heard that. What do they intend to fight with? Sticks? Even knives are banned in that place.


Cars and football hooligans? I have no idea...

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/878625347755028481

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8s434xg

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 01:54 PM (NOIQH)

190 Charlie Brown, I also think this sentence ;'The result of all this turmoil is that the revolutionary Left thinks its moment has come".
is a great short explanation of what total insanity we are witnessing now.

Posted by: willow


I think the same is true of Muslims in western countries. Think of all the attacks in recent years, by people "whose motives will never be known".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 01:55 PM (xAvrH)

191 okay. i figured it out. long time readers of this site may recall moby dick commenting on a different subject (whaling for lamp oil): "bring it".

well, when sanders and warren et al say the obamacare replacement bill is blood for a tax cut for there rich, i say "bring it".

this is not a law for the rich. the rich will be able to afford health insurance regardless of single payer, obamacare or the status quo ante. this is about the middle class. the republicans are the party of the middle class. the dems are for gutting the middle class to fund the poor (while they're in bed with the rich).

proof: the trump election, but moreso, every election over the past 8 years. reps dominate because they're the party of the middle class.

that is what must be emphasized.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 01:55 PM (WTSFk)

192 Changing out an incandescent bulb for a CFL really doesn't save shit. The whole thing is a FARCE. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:51 PM (mpXpK)
=====

Yeah. Went from five people with daily showers, laundry, toilets, etc. to one. Sewer and water bills went up.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 01:55 PM (MIKMs)

193 188 And besides that, ALL residential usage is a piss in the ocean compared to industrial and commercial.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

----------------

If it saves even one spotted owl...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 01:56 PM (kTF2Z)

194 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:51 PM (mpXpK)

This is fairly accurate.
Though, as CBD noted, the swapping for LEDs has made my rooms a lot colder. (My old bedroom was a whacky shape and took 7 light bulbs across 2 lamps to light well, even at 75 watt bulbs they produced an uncomfortable level of heat in the summer and the AC sucked at getting up to the second floor on the far side of the house from it.)

I sprung for a couple of smart bulbs because it was actually cheaper than rewiring the house for a dimmer switch. Also my daughter loves playing with the color change feature, and no joke she's been learning colors with it.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at June 25, 2017 01:56 PM (dzmBR)

195 Steve as they and the left are again aligned together (see Nazi and Imans back in the day)no real surprise , Eh?

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:56 PM (v12G8)

Posted by: Javems at June 25, 2017 01:56 PM (yOqwj)

197 >>And besides that, ALL residential usage is a piss in the ocean compared to industrial and commercial.


Hollywood
*mic drop*

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2017 01:56 PM (NOIQH)

198 Oh, don't you get it? The government role was fine. It's just that the wrong people were in charge. That's always the answer.

(Why isn't it ever said that the companies were OK, but the wrong people were in the boardroom?)

Posted by: George LeS at June 25, 2017 01:57 PM (+TcCF)

199
that is what must be emphasized.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 01:55 PM (WTSFk)

+

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:58 PM (v12G8)

200 Sometime ago my local Walmart had 60 watt equivalent LED bulbs for $1.97 for a pak of 4. That's when I changed almost every bulb over except for the frig and stove which need incandescents and the 40 watt tubes that light most of the basement and my workshop there.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 01:58 PM (d3wbb)

201 Results of a comprehensive engineering study of the WTC damages and collapses is here:

http://tinyurl.com/yabthyvs

Summary paper of the thousands of report pages is here.

http://tinyurl.com/j226akx

Concise list of reasons for the collapses is in Chapter 8. I cannot copy and paste from the NIST pdf files for an unknown reason. Bottom Line: The towers collapsed due to a combination of structural damage by the aircraft impacts, fire, and aircraft impact-caused loss of fire protection materials on the steel. A similar fire, alone, would likely NOT have resulted in collapses, per the report.


Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 01:58 PM (AMIL/)

202 155 >>Do not get me started on the horrors of British National Health Service. Euthanasia by neglect.

Ain't got shit on us!
Posted by: The VA at June 25, 2017 01:33 PM (/Nite)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMFH at June 25, 2017 01:59 PM (s5Kql)

203 "You're wanting a hacker to admit he's a hacker on this blog?"

Why would that be a special problem? White hats and CEHs are a thing.

"What did you want to know, Apostate?"

What programming and other computer science knowledge is necessary to be successful. I've received a very tempting offer to wade into computer security, but I wonder about prerequisites.

My background includes Army CI and electrical engineering, but mostly analog and hardware. I know some C, but have only programmed .exe files and microcontrollers.

I was assured that this would be sufficient, but that might be recruiting fluff. The guy is extremely interested in me, and might be waving away concerns to boost my confidence or interest.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 01:59 PM (ORmJ3)

204 I blame the rise of environmentalism on the GOP.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 25, 2017 02:00 PM (l4aLi)

205 Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 01:58 PM

Wikipedia's summary agrees. The floor joist softening played a role, but was facilitated by the actual structural damage caused by the airplanes to the outer support beams.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at June 25, 2017 02:00 PM (dzmBR)

206 re the VA, I think while federal malfeasance is likely an issue , I have found it can be also a local issue. Some VAs take care of their people , some do not.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:01 PM (v12G8)

207 smfh, kissy face and hugs, life is doing ok I hope?

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:01 PM (v12G8)

208 Fortunately willow, the one I go to is a good one.

Posted by: SMFH at June 25, 2017 02:01 PM (s5Kql)

209 Wasn't this government housing? Didn't government employees write the spec, put out the bids, and oversee the construction? I'm failing to see how "business", in any form, is to blame.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:02 PM (LTHVh)

210 >>(Why isn't it ever said that the companies were OK, but the wrong people were in the boardroom?)

Oh, it's said. Not often listened to but it is most definitely said.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

211 It's fair to middlin', willow

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMFH at June 25, 2017 02:03 PM (s5Kql)

212 ALL residential usage is a piss in the ocean compared to industrial and commercial.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

I used to see the power bill for my old company. One building (out of thousands across the country) used about 1000KW/hr

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wYseH)

213 This happened because Trump lied to all perons of coler. We demand Presdent Obama arrest Trump now for his crimes against pesons of all colors.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 25, 2017 02:03 PM (WmgTn)

214 Steve as they and the left are again aligned together (see Nazi and Imans back in the day)no real surprise , Eh?

Posted by: willow


Nope. It's the only thing that explains why, after each terrorist attack, the left has gotten more of a hard on to import as many Muslims as possible.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 02:04 PM (xAvrH)

215 I want my - I want my-light decisions left to me.

lights fireplace to weenie roast. (not really) I can't afford my electric bill to cool the house as it is.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:04 PM (v12G8)

216 191,

The merchant class, aka the bourgeois, aka "the rich", are what we now call the upper middle class and consist mostly of small business persons and degree-ed professionals.

The workers would mostly be in the lower middle class.

The wealthy are the upper class and would be defined not so much by income as by their means of earning it which is through invested funds.

The lower class would be those whose earnings are all spent to meet the basic necessities of life and so have a hand to mouth existence.

One thing both middle classes have in common is the dream of moving up. The wealthy wish to hold onto what they have and fear its loss. The lower class dream to of moving up but can also be roused to envy and resentment of those better off by demagogues.

The fusion of interests of the wealthy and the lower class is made by those who wish to move up by gaining power as opposed to earning money though power will get you money too.

The wealthy fear being dethroned by the upper middle moving up and shaking up the foundations of wealth. The Democrats have come to power by making deals with both the wealthy and the lower class. They will, for a price, provide security for the wealthy and buy off the lower class with money taken mostly from the upper middle but also from the lower middle too.

This bargain started in the 30s as a way to keep the lower class from embracing the lure of the then new socialist movements, communism and fascism that were flourishing during the great worldwide depression.

That bargain worked but the temptation to constantly expand the programs to hook more people and for people to hook themselves into what appears to be a costless freebie has led to them to the edge of the cliff we face today.

The demagogues now have the problem that they have run out of money they can steal or borrow and the tiger they are on is still hungry.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 02:04 PM (d3wbb)

217 212 I used to see the power bill for my old company. One building (out of thousands across the country) used about 1000KW/hr


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wYseH)

One 50 hp motor uses about 37 kw/hr. How many motors does the average factory have in it running? And that doesn't have all the other shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mpXpK)

218 smfh, still struggling, but i'm always so happy to see you post, and how I miss it when I don't see your nic for a while

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:05 PM (v12G8)

219 A similar fire, alone, would likely NOT have resulted in collapses, per the report.

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 01:58 PM (AMIL/)

There is a well-regarded engineer who disagrees. He claimed that the fire alone would probably have brought down the buildings.

These are legitimate discussions though...it's not like "fire doesn't melt steel" or "the CIA did a controlled demolition."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:06 PM (wYseH)

220 This happened because Trump lied to all perons of coler.

---------------

The guy who screwed up Argentina so bad they wouldn't let him back into the country? That Peron? He's been dead for decades.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:06 PM (kTF2Z)

221 In the end, the never-to-be-spoken reason is graft.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:06 PM (LTHVh)

222 I've been reading ihe Daily Mail about this and have been bemused by how fast they started whipping up the mob. It wasn't more than 24 hours before they chose their Emmanuel Goldstein in the person of the contractor who installed the cladding. The non-tabloid papers are more circumspect but you can feel the seething hatred. It's been interesting to observe.

Mark Steyn slams American papers for being a boring, grey monoculture but in a case like this......

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 25, 2017 02:07 PM (RQP0C)

223 Grump, it is. They shutout every other idea and get theirs in collusion with their paid for govt sponsers.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:08 PM (v12G8)

224 The towers collapsed due to a combination of structural damage by the aircraft impacts, fire, and aircraft impact-caused loss of fire protection materials on the steel.

Why would you need to protect steel from fire?

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (xAvrH)

225 And besides that, ALL residential usage is a piss in the ocean compared to industrial and commercial.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

Yup.....Al Gore's bathrooms use more energy than a small village in Zimbabwe or Detroit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (5VlCp)

226 A classic bit from Yes Prime Minister:

The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country.
The Guardian is read by the people who think they ought to run the country.
The Times is read by the people actually do run the country.
The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country.
The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country.
The Morning Star is read by the people who think the country should be run by another country.
and The Daily Telegraph is read by the people who think it already is.

http://youtu.be/DGscoaUWW2M


Of course in America it's a bit simpler:

The New York Times is read by Commie bastards who hate sane, normal Americans.
The Washington Post is read by Commie bastards who hate sane, normal Americans.
The LA Times is read by Commie bastards who hate sane, normal Americans.
The Chicago Tribune is read by Commie bastards who hate sane, normal Americans.
The Boston Globe is read by Commie bastards who hate sane, normal Americans.
etc.
etc.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (RQP0C)

227 How many motors does the average factory have in it running? And that doesn't have all the other shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mpXpK)

It really is amazing how little understanding there is of these numbers.

The buildings I worked in were much bigger than average, with probably 200 motors running conveyors. And 100s of high-powered lights.

And smelting and forges use a lot more than that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (wYseH)

228 Grump928 Johnson is right!

Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (/tuJf)

229 These are legitimate discussions though...it's not like "fire doesn't melt steel" or "the CIA did a controlled demolition."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:06 PM (wYseH)

you know the unfortunate response to govt malfeasance becomes?
if we can't trust fbi- cia- irs osha, just whop is doing it right?
and that's why draining the swamp openly is so important.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:10 PM (v12G8)

230 re the VA, I think while federal malfeasance is
likely an issue , I have found it can be also a local issue. Some VAs
take care of their people , some do not.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:01 PM (v12G


I have been told by VA patients that the MDs and nursing and rehab staff are committed and generally tops, it is the administrators that makes timely care impossible.


Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:11 PM (mkDpn)

231 Afternoon, y'all. Had a date Friday night. It went well enough that there will be a second one. Y'all wish me luck!

Posted by: Country Singer at June 25, 2017 02:12 PM (yzxic)

232 -p

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:12 PM (v12G8)

233 it is the administrators that makes timely care impossible.


Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:11 PM (mkDpn

well money is really to root of many of our govt workers malfeasance, they route the money to their ...? and take short cuts.

still individually some VAs try to do their job, regardless.

I would hate to be in their shoes.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (v12G8)

234 My old house has aluminum siding with about 1/4" Styrofoam on underside. Still for sale in the U.S., as we bought some replacement pieces about three years ago. That's the least of my problems though---our house has "balloon" construction, so God forbid we ever have a fire, the whole thing's gonna go up like a tinderbox.

I believe I read somewhere that the cladding used in the Grenfell fire was legal to use up to two stories.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (HiDrR)

235 Kennedy called, Ginsburg's dead, call me.

Posted by: Frank Costanza at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (qYCgM)

236 Wow. I woke up, posted a little, fell back to sleep, woke up, fell asleep again, and just woke up again a few minutes ago. I think my sleep deprivation caught up with me with a vengeance.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (0mRoj)

237 225 Yup.....Al Gore's bathrooms use more energy than a small village in Zimbabwe or Detroit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 02:09 PM (5VlCp)



Al Gore's house used 221,000 KW in 2006 giving a bill of $30,000. So that post is true and not a joke.


http://tinyurl.com/3xfxvn

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:15 PM (mpXpK)

238 Kind of like the Taggart Tunnel part of Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: dan at June 25, 2017 02:15 PM (+yr9b)

239 "I know some C, but have only programmed .exe files and microcontrollers. I was assured that this would be sufficient, but that might be recruiting fluff."

It probably won't be sufficient.

However, if you have basic chops in C, that's a good starting point for picking up foundational systems knowledge in Unix/Linux. Then using that foundation to expand out into TCP/IP networking.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 02:15 PM (ujwCG)

240 Of course fire can't melt steel. Steel is harvested from small I-Beam farms that dot the PA countryside.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:16 PM (kTF2Z)

241 238 Kind of like the Taggart Tunnel part of Atlas Shrugged
Posted by: dan at June 25, 2017 02:15 PM (+yr9b)

I'm paying you to get a tunnel dug, and instead you're jumping around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:17 PM (0mRoj)

242 Let's not forget the most important fact of the entire story, which is that the fire was caused by a refrigerator that exploded because the European Union has replaced freon, a non-flammable gas, with flammable gas in all refrigerators.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 25, 2017 02:17 PM (XDEFW)

243 Steel is harvested from small I-Beam farms that dot the PA countryside.


It was, before Big Steel started buying up the little guys.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:17 PM (LTHVh)

244 216
That bargain worked but the temptation to constantly expand the programs to hook more people and for people to hook themselves into what appears to be a costless freebie has led to them to the edge of the cliff we face today.

The demagogues now have the problem that they have run out of money they can steal or borrow and the tiger they are on is still hungry.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 02:04 PM (d3wbb)


Good comment.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (sdi6R)

245 234 I believe I read somewhere that the cladding used in the Grenfell fire was legal to use up to two stories.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (HiDrR)

That is in the US, according to a post above. It was legal in the UK all the way up. And not only that they have found the same shit used in 34 other high rise buildings.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (mpXpK)

246 I have been told by VA patients that the MDs and nursing and rehab staff are committed and generally tops, it is the administrators that makes timely care impossible.


Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:11 PM (mkDpn)

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this

Posted by: SMFH at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (s5Kql)

247 It's all genetically modified monoculture alloy now.

Very few 'Artisan Steel' ranches remain.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (LTHVh)

248 247 It's all genetically modified monoculture alloy now.

Very few 'Artisan Steel' ranches remain.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (LTHVh)

And Monsanto owns the patents to all the seed.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:19 PM (0mRoj)

249 One 50 hp motor uses about 37 kw/hr. How many motors does the average factory have in it running? And that doesn't have all the other shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mpXpK)


My factory had about 20-30 motors running at any one moment. Between 1/2 hp to about 12 hp max. Ugly florescent lighting everywhere. Air conditioning seven months out of the year. Two shifts. Electric bill was not a killer. Maybe 1% of sales dollars.

Probably 10X your average residential bill for a months service.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 02:19 PM (PduNE)

250 "However, if you have basic chops in C, that's a good starting point for picking up foundational systems knowledge in Unix/Linux."

I hear: 'Step up to intermediate C and get to basic proficiency in Linux.' That about right? How about Java? I've gotten conflicting answers re: that language, so it might be a matter of opinion or specific organizational focus.

The program in question openly accepts EEs and mathematicians so I'm sure they have dealt with people who have minimal programming experience in the past. But I'd like to minimize the struggle.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 02:20 PM (ORmJ3)

251 I have been told by VA patients that the MDs and
nursing and rehab staff are committed and generally tops, it is the
administrators that makes timely care impossible.





Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:11 PM (mkDpn)



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this

Posted by: SMFH at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM (s5Kql)


Yep. Go into any VA and you'll quickly notice that the volunteer help is much more efficient and courteous than the actual government administrative employees.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 25, 2017 02:20 PM (yzxic)

252 We do not monitor our congresscritters closely enough. And I'm as guilty as anybody.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 02:20 PM (xAvrH)

253 The UK would have been better off going to the old refridgerant gas; ammonia. If you had a leak you would have to get your ass out, but it would not blow up the whole building.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (mpXpK)

254
There is a well-regarded engineer who disagrees. He claimed that the fire alone would probably have brought down the buildings.

These are legitimate discussions though...it's not like "fire doesn't melt steel" or "the CIA did a controlled demolition."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 02:06 PM (wYseH)

===

One WTC building DID COLLAPSE DUE TO FIRE EFFECTS on 9/11/2001. It was WTC 7, a 47-story, trapezoidal cross-section building, north of the main WTC complex, across Vesey Street. It collapsed 6 or 8 hours after the Twin Towers.

WTC 7 collapse cause has always been controversial. Whenever someone says the Twin Towers could have been brought down by fire alone and he/she quotes an expert, ask which WTC buildings the expert was talking about. A link to a page where you can download NIST's WTC 7 report is here:

http://tinyurl.com/6ezf82c

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (AMIL/)

255 clangs tincup across my metaphorical prison to wake up insomniac.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (v12G8)

256
It was, before Big Steel started buying up the little guys.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 02:17 PM (LTHVh)

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Correct. It was then when Carnegie invented the dragon fired forges, revolutionizing the business.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (kTF2Z)

257 252 We do not monitor our congresscritters closely enough. And I'm as guilty as anybody.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 02:20 PM (xAvrH)

Trouble is, keeping tabs on government shenanigans would be a full time job and require several staffers to help.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:22 PM (0mRoj)

258 yo

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:22 PM (bYZsp)

259 geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 02:04 PM (d3wbb)


great comment.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:22 PM (v12G8)

260 I thought I had used up my stash of incandescents but while cleaning out a closet I just found two more 4-packs.

Yay, a reprieve!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 02:22 PM (ul9CR)

261 That is in the US, according to a post above. It was legal in the UK all the way up. And not only that they have found the same shit used in 34 other high rise buildings.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:18 PM
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What a bunch of idiots they are. And all for Gaia!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 02:23 PM (HiDrR)

262 255 clangs tincup across my metaphorical prison to wake up insomniac.
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (v12G

Heh. Oh I'm awake now. I haven't crashed out that hard in a long time though.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:23 PM (0mRoj)

263 insomniac, what a good feeling it is to actually sleep like a normal person right?

not that you're not normal, well ok you are slightly abnormal, like the rest of us.

but nice, eh?

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:25 PM (v12G8)

264 263 insomniac, what a good feeling it is to actually sleep like a normal person right?

not that you're not normal, well ok you are slightly abnormal, like the rest of us.

but nice, eh?
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:25 PM (v12G

It is, in a very weird sort of way.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:26 PM (0mRoj)

265 So, bottom line this is a pubic housing building, aka the projects in the USA, where all the residents were pretty much living free, had no sprinklers, and no central fire alarm.


Remember, this was a GOVERNMENT OWNED building.



Funny how this information isn't being mentioned in any of these stories.


Wonder why.


So alternative headline.


Immigrant welfare recipients living in substandard GOVERNMENT housing die of neglect.

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:26 PM (bYZsp)

266 Thanks to Gaia-friendly sustainable building codes, those people died in an atmosphere of good breeding.

http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/Extras/politenessman.jpg

Posted by: Politenessman at June 25, 2017 02:27 PM (t5m5e)

267 insomniac, dod yyou sit up and worry that something happened while you were in lala land?
I do that, I sit straight up like omg, something happened and I didn't fix it.

sucks to be (me)another insomniac.
my spouse believe my sleeping 2-3 hours with an occasional 6 hour hard death is normal for me, so he just doesn't relate. LOl

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:27 PM (v12G8)

268 Looking forward to the Falcon 9 launch scheduled for 4:25 pm Eastern time, with the new improved grid fins.

Who says space geeks can't have fun?

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43209.0

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

269 What a bunch of idiots they are. And all for Gaia!
Posted by: IrishEi at June 25, 2017 02:23 PM (HiDrR)


at least they left out the conveyor belt, rotating knives and chutes to efficiently channel the blood away. And think of the cost savings for sound-proofing!

https://youtu.be/DyL5mAqFJds

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mkDpn)

270
Cladding?

Why do we say "clapboard" instead of cladboard?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 02:28 PM (4DEJp)

271 "I hear: 'Step up to intermediate C and get to basic proficiency in Linux.' That about right?"

You may not have to spend too much time in the C trenches before being able to figure out basic Linux concepts. One thing that basic C helps with is learning shell scripting, which is central to Linux/Unix operations.

"How about Java?"

I wouldn't worry about Java at this stage. Also, if your brain is able to deal with C, and pointers, and manually allocating and deallocating memory, then picking up Java later on should be a snap.

I have a distinct impression that Python is eclipsing Java in many environments which used to use the latter.

However, the conceptual distance C <-> Java is shorter than that of C <-> Python. I like Python, but it's got its own way of doing things. C habits must be unlearnt.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 02:28 PM (ujwCG)

272

And how did cupboard become "cubberd?"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 02:29 PM (4DEJp)

273 Ralph, because they all know that place was a govt moneypit, tons of cash thrown at them , and sucked up by Valerie jarret types instead .

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:29 PM (v12G8)

274 The only bad part was having dreams of social competence, especially with the ladies. That always causes feelings of deep disappointment when I wake up.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

275 Newcandscent company was featured five or six years ago on Rush, and the bulbs were made in NJ at their little plant. They would send your order, each bulb in it's cardboard closed box, with a spare box full of tiny wrapped tootsie rolls as a thank you.

Good old American manufacturing and service. Yes, they were three dollars a bulb, but worth it if you wanted them.

Sad to see that end.
Posted by: Jen the original


Three dollars a bulb???

At the Chinese stores, it's 99 cents for a four-pack -- 25 cents per bulb, which is one-twelvth the price.

Yeah, they're not "Made In America"®, but economics is economics.

Posted by: zombie at June 25, 2017 02:30 PM (DQ4Fv)

276 speaking of the UK not using freon, I hope all you folks know that in a few more short years ALL freon will be phased out in the US in new products buildings etc. ALL for that fake ozone hole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

277 267 insomniac, dod yyou sit up and worry that something happened while you were in lala land?

Not this time, but sometimes in my process of tossing and turning my mind will make up things of great importance for me to obsess about that do not exist in real life.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:31 PM (0mRoj)

278 speaking of the UK not using freon, I hope all you folks know that in a few more short years ALL freon will be phased out in the US in new products buildings etc. ALL for that fake ozone hole.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Somehow I'm sure DuPont or 3M are making money off of that fake hole somehow.

Posted by: Jean at June 25, 2017 02:32 PM (9TU00)

279 you have dreams of social competence?
lucky you.

I'm buried in dreams of nothingness for couple of hours and wakefulness with I can never ever do enough to fix all my loved ones life.

add that maybe I wasn't smart enough (shut up) to guide correctly.

and so deserve the hell.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:32 PM (v12G8)

280 276 speaking of the UK not using freon, I hope all you folks know that in a few more short years ALL freon will be phased out in the US in new products buildings etc. ALL for that fake ozone hole.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

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Not a problem. Propane makes an excellent substitute for freon.

Posted by: Politenessman at June 25, 2017 02:33 PM (t5m5e)

281 Immigrant welfare recipients living in substandard GOVERNMENT housing die of neglect.

Posted by: Ralph


Excellent. Maybe this will convince more of them to stay put, instead of invading Europe.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 02:33 PM (xAvrH)

282 Vic what brings you out on a late Sunday afternoon? Weather is mighty nice in the Up State today.

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:33 PM (bYZsp)

283 Jan 1, 2020 R-22 and all other CFCs will be banned in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

284 279 you have dreams of social competence?
lucky you.

I'm buried in dreams of nothingness for couple of hours and wakefulness with I can never ever do enough to fix all my loved ones life.

add that maybe I wasn't smart enough (shut up) to guide correctly.

and so deserve the hell.
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:32 PM (v12G

Ouch. Not all the dreams are of social competence but when they are, waking up to my perpetual state of loserdom stings all the more.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (0mRoj)

285 Not this time, but sometimes in my process of tossing and turning my mind will make up things of great importance for me to obsess about that do not exist in real life.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:31 PM (0mRoj)

Grandpa used to call that 'wolves at the door'...

You can't see them... you can't hear them... but dammit! you know they are there in the middle of the night...

Of course, the only wolves anywhere near my house, are in the zoo... but....

Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (NgKpN)

286 make up things of great importance for me to obsess about that do not exist in real life.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:31 PM (0mRoj)

yeah, I might be doing that, but I have a lot of things in my life I feel overwhelmes in dealing with,. kids, financial,
well I suppose every human does the same, but maybe on steroids.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:35 PM (v12G8)

287 Somehow I'm sure DuPont or 3M are making money off of that fake hole somehow.

Posted by: Jean


Imagine how much they could make off of a real hole.

Posted by: Hope Solo at June 25, 2017 02:35 PM (xAvrH)

288 Not a problem. Propane makes an excellent substitute for freon.

Posted by: Politenessman at June 25, 2017 02:33 PM (t5m5e)

Especially when used by a third world immigrant with a 4th grade education.

What could go wrong? I am thinking. You know it's the ECU standard now.

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:35 PM (bYZsp)

289 282
Vic what brings you out on a late Sunday afternoon? Weather is mighty nice in the Up State today.


Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:33 PM (bYZsp)

Too hot outside to go sit on the porch and besides. neighbor came over and got the last of my bourbon yesterday so the rocking chair would be no fun.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:36 PM (mpXpK)

290 Jan 1, 2020 R-22 and all other CFCs will be banned in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


That gives Trump and the Republicans plenty of time to kill it, along with all the other bullshit (like the Tubman $20). OTOH, it's the Republicans, so who knows what will happen.

Posted by: Hope Solo at June 25, 2017 02:37 PM (xAvrH)

291 Speaking of totally fcked up.



150 Paki's die trying to steal gas from an overturned tanker getting burned alive when it catches on fire.



Sad, but hey, it's was Allah's will!



Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (bYZsp)

292 neighbor came over and got the last of my bourbon

Words I can not understand in that order, or any order.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PduNE)

293 Buttsock off.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (xAvrH)

294 And how did cupboard become "cubberd?"
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 25, 2017 02:29 PM (4DEJp)


To misquote Haeckel:

In English, orthography recapitulates philology.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (mkDpn)

295 Those cheapo Chinese incandescents didn't last nearly as long, so it's not simple economics. It ain't cheaper if you're replacing them much faster.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (ul9CR)

296 "keeping tabs on government shenanigans would be a full time job and require several staffers to help."

My day job involves keeping tabs on rulemaking by state agencies to insure that proper procedures are followed and the regulations don't exceed their statutory authority. The agency I work for currently has 13 full time staff; prior to the computer era it had about 25 because there was a lot more secretarial and typing work to be done.

Posted by: Secret Square at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (9WuX0)

297 yeah, I might be doing that, but I have a lot of things in my life I feel overwhelmes in dealing with,. kids, financial,
well I suppose every human does the same, but maybe on steroids.
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:35 PM (v12G

Ugh. I think we've all been there to one degree or another. Have you ever been diagnosed as having any type of anxiety disorder?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:39 PM (0mRoj)

298 290 That gives Trump and the Republicans plenty of time
to kill it, along with all the other bullshit (like the Tubman $20).
OTOH, it's the Republicans, so who knows what will happen.



Posted by: Hope Solo at June 25, 2017 02:37 PM (xAvrH)

IIANM that was a signed and ratified treaty. I don't think Trump could leaglly terminate it. The Senate would have to kill it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:39 PM (mpXpK)

299 292
neighbor came over and got the last of my bourbon



Words I can not understand in that order, or any order.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PduNE)

Bad planning. Always have a hidden spare.

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:39 PM (bYZsp)

300 Hey, my Muslima sex doll was just delivered.

It blows itself up!

thankyou thankyou. Try the veal.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 02:39 PM (ul9CR)

301 The bulbs did it.

Posted by: Lee Iacocca at June 25, 2017 02:39 PM (En33R)

302 >>Grandpa used to call that 'wolves at the door'...

Was your Grandpa Scottish by chance? Ever heard of The Wolf of Badenoch?

Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at June 25, 2017 02:40 PM (/tuJf)

303 Grandpa used to call that 'wolves at the door'...

You can't see them... you can't hear them... but dammit! you know they are there in the middle of the night...

Of course, the only wolves anywhere near my house, are in the zoo... but....
Posted by: Don Q., at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (NgKpN)

I see I'm not the only one whose subconscious mind hates him.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:40 PM (0mRoj)

304 288
Especially when used by a third world immigrant with a 4th grade education.

Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:35 PM (bYZsp)


Or even a first world citizen with a modern university "education".

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 02:40 PM (sdi6R)

305 Thanks, torque. Sounds like it'll take a little preparatory effort, but is achievable.

I tinkered with HTML and the idea of hacking once, long ago, and abandoned it. I'd never have predicted being paid to go do it.

Life is strange.

Hell, I might even be good at it. A story from a pro forensics team was tossed to me, asking what I'd consider doing: they needed to get open a Blackberry that would erase its content if they missed the password three times, and had already missed it twice; what do you do, Apostate?

I said 'crack it open and shut off the power to whatever pin controls the reset.' Apparently, that's what they really did and it worked. It was an EE hardware solution that the computer science guys didn't think about.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (ORmJ3)

306 That freon phase out was put in place by an ALL Democrat congress and approved by Bush-I, big RINO.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

307 283 Jan 1, 2020 R-22 and all other CFCs will be banned in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

===

What the heck are we supposed to use for cooling after 1/1/2020, harsh language?

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (AMIL/)

308 Secret Square, some state agencies here write elegant rules, others are a hash of unreadable slush. It depends on the the people involved I'm afraid

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mkDpn)

309 307 283 Jan 1, 2020 R-22 and all other CFCs will be banned in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

===

What the heck are we supposed to use for cooling after 1/1/2020, harsh language?
Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (AMIL/)

Propane and propane accessories.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:43 PM (0mRoj)

310 And let's not forget the nearly 5000 people that drowned in bathtubs last year....F'in plumbers!

Posted by: NY Times Green Energy Staff at June 25, 2017 02:43 PM (NME3H)

311 Insomniac, are you still looking for work?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:44 PM (mkDpn)

312 "Hey, my Muslima sex doll was just delivered. It blows itself up!"

Now that's funny.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 02:45 PM (ORmJ3)

313 Consent to ratification of treaties (the Senate power) does not automatically include a role in withdrawal from said treaties.

When the US signs and the Senate consents to ratification, a treaty becomes law.

But withdrawal from said treaty - all treaties contain provisions for such withdrawal - is between the US executive and the foreign signatories.

Unless another massive memory failure is taking place (possible), when the US withdrew from the ABM Treaty under Dubya, the Senate had no bite at the apple. The withdrawal was done in accordance with the terms of the treaty itself.

Of course the Senate and Congress as a whole possess several solid and some prospective tools to complicate or negate aspects of executive branch foreign policy, mostly the power of $$$. So Congress could torture a president in various ways, if it so chose, over treaty withdrawal - but I don't think the Senate has any formal say over withdrawal itself.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 25, 2017 02:45 PM (iynDC)

314 307 What the heck are we supposed to use for cooling after 1/1/2020, harsh language?

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (AMIL/)

I bet congress has exempted itself. But since there is no current identified replacement I guess we go back to the 50s when I had to sweat all Summer.
But according to the phase out, even congress will not be able to get R-22.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mpXpK)

315
I think I've seen talk of using big bad planet destroying CO2 as refrigerant. But it's a tinier molecule so more costly (d'uh) and more prone to leakage (d'uh) and more often costly repair calls (d'uh) so I'd assume that's the leading candidate. Plus though -- won't set your house on fire but the water in your traps will probably rise.

Unless the Trumpelmeister runs amok and smashes through the insanity.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 02:47 PM (PduNE)

316 And let's not forget the nearly 5000 people that drowned in bathtubs last year....F'in plumbers!

But 93,000,000 people a day are killed by guns, so what's the use?

Posted by: tu3031 at June 25, 2017 02:47 PM (qJhUV)

317 311 Insomniac, are you still looking for work?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 02:44 PM (mkDpn)

Well, yes and no. I started picking up a few projects on a contract basis recently, but I'm still looking for a full-time gig.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 02:48 PM (0mRoj)

318 apostate. My work just interviewed someone who works for an IT security compliance company. What I gleaned from the interview: the pen testers as they are called are given the "hacking" tools to see if the company has up to date security. -- and sometimes they just have to call employees and see if they fall for the "hi this is Joe from IT, I need your password to check for something" Our candidate had become an IT guy for the company, automating the installation of the tools on the pen tester CPUs.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 25, 2017 02:48 PM (8qFZP)

319 @313 It also depends on whether the treaty is self-executing. If it is, its provisions are part of federal law and must be repealed as such. Otherwise, the terms are without domestic legislative meaning.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 02:50 PM (ORmJ3)

320 Let me guess, existing freon based systems will not be compatible with the new refrigerant.

If the ban goes into efffect and nothing else works, congress critters will be hunted in the streets.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:51 PM (kTF2Z)

321 Survivors have charged that the facade was installed to beautify their housing project for the benefit of wealthy neighbors.

I guess Early Ghetto would have been their own personal preference?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 25, 2017 02:52 PM (Tyii7)

322 313 Posted by: rhomboid at June 25, 2017 02:45 PM (iynDC)


I rarely get to see the wording of any actual treaties so there is no telling how this piece of fraudulent shit is worded. I do know that for years NASA posted data on the so-called ozone hole on its web site. The size of the hole did not change for 10 years after banning freon 12. Don't know now because they no longer post it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:52 PM (mpXpK)

323 And let's not forget the nearly 5000 people that drowned in bathtubs last year....F'in plumbers!

More people are killed by plumbers every year than by Muslims. We need to let in more Muslims and restrict immigration for plumbers.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 25, 2017 02:52 PM (xAvrH)

324 Melanie Phillips wrote this commentary at @jeruslam post
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 01:28 PM (v12G
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That was an excellent piece, willow. Thank you for mentioning it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 02:54 PM (sBOL1)

325 320
Let me guess, existing freon based systems will not be compatible with the new refrigerant.



If the ban goes into efffect and nothing else works, congress critters will be hunted in the streets.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:51 PM (kTF2Z)

Just like Freon 22 is not compatible with the old Freon 12 systems.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:55 PM (mpXpK)

326 >>I have been told by VA patients that the MDs and
nursing and rehab staff are committed and generally tops, it is the
administrators that makes timely care impossible.




Posted by: Kindltot

My experience has been, in general, that the better and more willing the providers are at circumventing the bureaucracy / system the better care the patients get. It takes a definite expenditure of energy.

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 02:55 PM (/Nite)

327 @56 I read the several NIST WTC reports for work. 12 years after that assignment, I still get angry just thinking about it. Not just about the Saudis who did it, but also about the authorities involved with specifying the fire protection. I don't recall if even a single one was brought to account.

Haven't heard the fire can't melt steel crap in a long time, but there is an easy to comprehend rebuttal to that. Watch an old fashioned horse opera. The hero rides into town and stables his horse. At the stables, the blacksmith is heating steel bar and pounding out horseshoes. Why heat it? Because it gets all soft and pliable. Then the blacksmith cools it in a bucket of water and it gets strong again. Conclusion even an addlepate can grasp (if they want to): steel gets weak when its really, really hot, even while its still solid.

Those buildings were amazing, extremely efficient use of material, but simply not up to a black swan event, and with few exceptions, nobody thought about that type of event. One who did was the security manager for Morgan Stanley, Rick Rescorla, a Welsh immigrant who was previously at Ia Drang with the 7th Calvary. He drilled the 2500 MS employees in evacuation, probably at their sufferance, and got them all out. He and his assistants were the only MS employees who died in the collapse. A name worth remembering.




Posted by: chuckR at June 25, 2017 02:56 PM (qS1uX)

328 Wonder how much HVAC OEMs spent on lobbying on this boondoggle.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 02:56 PM (kTF2Z)

329 Politness is all about the individual sacrifices we make for the greater good of a smoothly-functioning society and world. The individual immolations that will result from replacing freon with propane are the price we must pay for the greater good. It's the polite thing to do, so die quietly and without a lot of complaining. Don't be like those rude ruffian Britons rioting in the streets over this Grenfell Tower unpleasantness.

Posted by: Politenessman at June 25, 2017 02:57 PM (t5m5e)

330
As long as Bannon and his 'White Board of Doom' are still in the White House, I feel confident that things are still on track and silly liberal/progressive shit will be 'banished'.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (PduNE)

331 Well hello, boys and girls!

since the gods refuse to give us a food thread, I thought I'd jump start things with a green sauce. A Peruvian green sauce.

For this sauce you will need the following:

1 large bunch of fresh cilantro
2 limes
4 TBS extra virgin olive oil
1 TBS softened butter
1/4 cup mayonnaise
1/4 cup sour cream
4 cloves of garlic
5 fresh jalapeno peppers
1 TBS ranch dressing powder

Coarsely chop everything into a blender, except limes. Halve limes, and juice into blender. Blend, taste, thank me.

Moar hotter: include more jalapeno seeds, and ribs.

Less Hotter: scrape out those seeds, and trim out the jalapeno ribs.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (h+eqa)

332 Sticket Wicket, the god of the food thread usually puts it up at about 4:00 Eastern. So we can't yell at him yet.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 02:59 PM (sBOL1)

333 Not exactly sure about "self-executing" treaties, Apostate, but I know some treaties required "implementing legislation" to be adopted by Congress which, of course, would have to be repealed (unless it contained waiver provisions for the president to use).

In the country that *was* the US, I'd say it would be easy for a president withdrawing from a treaty to overcome any congressional opposition on the legislative side, if treaty compliance were to be economically ruinous - but today, who knows.

We have a large, disproportionately prosperous segment of the electorate that also has high voter participation being ravaged, and ignored, in all the brouhaha over health insurance "reform". I see no limit on the damage the country can inflict on itself, and that includes with the passive acquiescence of GOP and even Trump voters. If something doesn't dramatically affect someone, tomorrow, personally, it seems not to be an issue, however outrageous.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 25, 2017 03:00 PM (iynDC)

334 Sticket Wicket, the god of the food thread usually puts it up at about 4:00 Eastern. So we can't yell at him yet.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 02:59 PM (sBOL1)


I'm in the Krasnoyarsk Summer Time Zone, what time will it be, please to tell, here.

Posted by: Zbrork at June 25, 2017 03:04 PM (PduNE)

335 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (h+eqa)

Is that how they make it in Peruvia or is this some Americanized version?

Posted by: Peaches at June 25, 2017 03:05 PM (EgOr3)

336
27 The purpose of government regulations is to prevent competition, award bribery and promote incompetence.

Remember, Indian (feather, not dot) reservations bad, public housing good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 25, 2017 12:13 PM (5VlCp)


I saw this at a display in the Pueblo Museum in Albequerque, NM back in January:

The term "pueblo" means "village" in Spanish. Early Pueblo people lived in pit houses or homes partially dug into the earth, which were entered by a ladder through a hole at the top of the pit. As our communities thrived and grew, we built larger stone structures including those at Mesa Verde and Chaco Canyon. Later we developed adobe bricks and used those to build individual homes as well as entire Pueblo communities. Today, however, many Pueblo people live in low quality U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) homes.

The irony, it burns!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 03:07 PM (pNxlR)

337 "If something doesn't dramatically affect someone, tomorrow, personally, it seems not to be an issue, however outrageous."

Collectively, modern people are far too stupid or disengaged to be effective wardens of freedom. A steady, generational diet of leftist propaganda, Kardashians, and other nonsense have replaced the 'national civic conversation' that once existed. Matters of national policy have taken a back seat to the latest HBO series.

They genuinely don't understand or know about it, and what does exist is mostly the likes of the NYT or Washington Post; an echo chamber.

Even our political leadership knows more about basketball brackets or the plot of shit like House of Cards than they do about actual geopolitical events or the consequences of major legislation.

Doom descends. But it does so very slowly. In the past, barbarians would sense our weakness and break down the gates. Being protected by oceans and vast distances, we have to import our own barbarians to bow to.

It's all so very deeply stupid.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 03:08 PM (ORmJ3)

338 332 Sticket Wicket, the god of the food thread usually puts it up at about 4:00 Eastern. So we can't yell at him yet.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 02:59 PM (sBOL1)

I blame Sefton.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 03:08 PM (0mRoj)

339 bluebell, sorry it took me so long to answer you in the previous thread, puppy demanded a car ride.

Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at June 25, 2017 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

340 dammit

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 03:11 PM (/tuJf)

341 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (h+eqa)

Clocks: another tool of the cis-normative patriarchy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 03:12 PM (wYseH)

342 Gee, having high-pressure propane in my car's A/C system should make every fender-bender even more exciting.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 03:14 PM (oVJmc)

343
287 Somehow I'm sure DuPont or 3M are making money off of that fake hole somehow.


Worked there (DuPont), but not in refrigerants. FWIW, the scuttlebutt from those higher up was that we were too accomodating to the ban and actually lost money by being so.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 03:15 PM (pNxlR)

344 T-60 minutes and they're starting to load propellants into Falcon 9.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:15 PM (sdi6R)

345 Rick Rescorla, a Welsh immigrant who was previously
at Ia Drang with the 7th Calvary. He drilled the 2500 MS employees in
evacuation, probably at their sufferance, and got them all out. He and
his assistants were the only MS employees who died in the collapse. A
name worth remembering.


Posted by: chuckR at June 25, 2017 02:56 PM (qS1uX)

Yes indeed.

Thank you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 03:16 PM (wYseH)

346 Roughly 125 tech jobs at Lowe's are being shipped off to Bangalore, India. This came just months after Lowe's outsourced 96 corporate IT jobs to India.

Bastards.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 25, 2017 03:18 PM (l4aLi)

347 T-60 minutes and they're starting to load propellants into Falcon 9.

If it rolls over will another hundred fifty pakistanis try to steal the fuel?

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 03:19 PM (TppKb)

348 >>Worked there (DuPont), but not in refrigerants. FWIW, the scuttlebutt from those higher up was that we were too accomodating to the ban and actually lost money by being so.

Made a similar mistake with halon.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 03:19 PM (/tuJf)

349 327 @56 I read the several NIST WTC reports for work. 12 years after that assignment, I still get angry just thinking about it.

Posted by: chuckR at June 25, 2017 02:56 PM (qS1uX)

===

I forgot about Rescola. Thank you for posting that. .

I also got mad reading the NIST reports. A book that then multiplied my anger about 9/11 towards the Saudis and the entire Muslim Brotherhood/Wahhabist/al Queda crowd of Charlie Sierra Mike Foxtrot's is "The Looming Tower." That book will make any American's blood boil. A must-read to understand how 9/11 happened, how chances to prevent it were bungled, and the Islamic enemy we are up against.

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 03:19 PM (AMIL/)

350 Roughly 125 tech jobs at Lowe's are being shipped off to Bangalore, India. This came just months after Lowe's outsourced 96 corporate IT jobs to India.

Well as long as you let outfits like wipro and infosys eat your economy....

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 03:20 PM (TppKb)

351 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (h+eqa)

CBD will love this. He positively adores cilantro.

Does it pair well with smoked hobo haunch, or is that meat too gamey for the delicate taste of this herb?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 03:25 PM (QGoUX)

352 H1B visas need to be halted indefinitely. Not only would it help US IT guys, it would really stick it to Silicon Valley. I consider that a win-win.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 03:26 PM (kTF2Z)

353 Let us not forget that the only exit was down the central core of the building; elevators and stairwells. A path that quickly became a chimney filled with smoke.

Most modern buildings have two routes out of the building; at the ends of the building. This one was square, with one path down the central core. They could have designed the building with stairs on one side, and an elevator on the other. They didn't

Posted by: Messa Binks at June 25, 2017 03:26 PM (m9X4Y)

354 Off to lunch and shopping. Till another day.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 03:30 PM (ORmJ3)

355 I intend to let Lowe's know what I think.
Which may include mailing back a credit card.
Fuckers.

IT people are probably 1/4 of 1/10th of 1% of sales.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 03:33 PM (PduNE)

356 307 283 Jan 1, 2020 R-22 and all other CFCs will be banned in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

===

What the heck are we supposed to use for cooling after 1/1/2020, harsh language?

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (AMIL/)




AMMONIA

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 03:34 PM (vlVF/)

357 Over at Jihad Watch, there's a great article about Sweden.

The national police chief is calling for help, since there are now 55 no go zones and the police can't do anything.

Sorry Sweden, but not sorry.

Actions have consequences.

The people support politicians who brought in these savages, and tax payer money- jizya- is supporting them so they don't have to work.

You reap what you sow.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:34 PM (aT+Bx)

358 Cute how they insert their politics into every word choice.
I think "bribe-hungry" or "kickback-driven" would be a lot more accurate than "business-friendly" ... .

One takeaway from Grenfell, reinforcing one of the important lessons of 9-11, is this:
anyone standing at the door telling me to "return to your offices / apartments, everything is under control, nothing to worry about " is gonna have my footprints on their chest if they get in my way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 25, 2017 03:36 PM (i81II)

359 "...my footprints on their chest if they get in my way."

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 25, 2017 03:36 PM (i81II)

Bingo.

And "shelter in place?"

Blow me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 03:38 PM (wYseH)

360 351 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 25, 2017 02:58 PM (h+eqa)

CBD will love this. He positively adores cilantro.

Does it pair well with smoked hobo haunch, or is that meat too gamey for the delicate taste of this herb?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 03:25 PM (QGoUX)

I prefer LifeBuoy.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 03:39 PM (0mRoj)

361 Here is the deal with regulations.......people cheat, and they are very, very, very good at it. We will always twist and turn every set of rules, no matter how well intended, into a weapon to use against those who oppose us, or simply for our own best interest. Your enemy isn't regulation, or lack of regulation, but human nature.

Posted by: DFCTomm at June 25, 2017 03:40 PM (50gG9)

362 Great pics at ZeroHedge of things melting in Arizona.

/so sorry for the morons that are there. yikes.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:41 PM (aT+Bx)

363 Here's the link to the SpaceX webcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8

The countdown is to the launch at 4:25 ET. The webcast should begin about 15-20 minutes before that.


I hope CaliGirl is there to watch.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:41 PM (sdi6R)

364 362 Great pics at ZeroHedge of things melting in Arizona.

Like blacktop, windows and cars?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 03:42 PM (0mRoj)

365 "Yep.

And that's why I'll repair my old and trusty washer and dryer, as well as my old, water using toilets.

As for CFLs, you know those crazy people who horde light bulbs? Yep. That's me.

Posted by: shibumi"

Right with ya on both of those, shibumi.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 25, 2017 03:42 PM (i81II)

366 Working in the office on a Sunday - what else is new? - and listening to Victory At Sea - "Full Fathom Five" - what a great and under-appreciated piece of symphonic music.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 03:42 PM (QcWqC)

367 bluebell, sorry it took me so long to answer you in the previous thread, puppy demanded a car ride.
Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at June 25, 2017 03:09 PM (/tuJf)
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No worries, JackStraw - it didn't occur to me until after I hit "post" that I was replying to something you had said an hour and a half before, and you probably weren't even still around.

Glad you had a good week. Recover.

Posted by: bluebell - if your recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 03:42 PM (sBOL1)

368 Like blacktop, windows and cars?
--

street signs, mail boxes, fences.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:43 PM (aT+Bx)

369 I like cilantro OK, so I guess I didn't get the soap gene.

I've read that people either love mushrooms or else find them repugnant, with no middle ground. Could that be genetic as well?

I'm in the second camp, BTW.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:44 PM (sdi6R)

370 Bingo.

And "shelter in place?"

Blow me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 25, 2017 03:38 PM (wYseH)



That's really messy. You know that a more accurate tally of wounded and dead will be facilitated by hunkering. Otherwise they'll have to look for you. Sheesh

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 03:44 PM (vlVF/)

371
One of the worst experiences of my life was when a bank I used outsourced IT to India. I went to the branch manager and told her in no uncertain terms that I was going to stand in the middle of the street outside of the bank and hand out dollar bills until the press arrived, simply to publicize just how f_cked up the bank had become.

Someone conveyed to the dots not feathers to stop f_cking with me within the hour. Lowe's can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 03:44 PM (PduNE)

372 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7
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Your nic is perfect and I agree 100% with it!

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:44 PM (aT+Bx)

373 259,
Posted by: willow at June 25, 2017 02:22 PM

Thanks. I wrote it originally at Protein Wisdom 6 years ago. This place moves so fast I can't do long here but copy-paste I can.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 03:44 PM (d3wbb)

374 >>>>>And that's why I'll repair my old and trusty washer and dryer, as well as my old, water using toilets.



As for CFLs, you know those crazy people who horde light bulbs? Yep. That's me.



Posted by: shibumi"



Right with ya on both of those, shibumi.
.
.
.
We switched our house in Kentucky over to LED's when we bought it, had one bulb go bad in over 4 years. Saved about $10 a month on electric year round and the latest generation LED's are dimmiable and natural light looking.

Starting the same process over here in Texas.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 25, 2017 03:46 PM (0pcwX)

375 Late to thread; on sucky tablet... brief.

Green fridge blew up starting the fire. (And assuming 3rd Worlders didn't start it some other way.)

Cladding was also meant as Green insulation energy-friendly crap.

CAGW bureaucracy responsible.

That's all.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2017 03:47 PM (nlbfN)

376 We switched our house in Kentucky over to LED's when we bought it, had one bulb go bad in over 4 years. Saved about $10 a month on electric year round and the latest generation LED's are dimmiable and natural light looking.
==
I use both CFLs and LEDs.

However, I want the option to use regular bulbs. Which is why I have them in stock.

I'll eventually phase out CFLs, and replace them with LEDs I've purchased on sale.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:47 PM (aT+Bx)

377 265,
Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:26 PM

When the fire was happening I read somewhere that the rent there was $2,500 per month.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 03:47 PM (d3wbb)

378 I got yer certfied home inspection regulations right here!

Posted by: James Hodgkinson's SKS at June 25, 2017 03:48 PM (iINbI)

379 Also... "don't tell me what kind of light bulbs to use government man!!!!"

/walks over to giant monster truck running off of high octane gas with mAmerican flag flying from the tailgate with 'covfefe' on the sdie, gets in and guns it.

Posted by: shibumi at June 25, 2017 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)

380 Think I'll go for a walk!

Posted by: The Thread at June 25, 2017 03:52 PM (kTF2Z)

381 I feel happy!

I feel happy!

Posted by: The Thread at June 25, 2017 03:53 PM (kTF2Z)

382 I retract #377. That was the amount that nearby hotel rooms cost.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 03:54 PM (d3wbb)

383 The SpaceX webcast will be starting up any minute now.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

384 I like cilantro OK, so I guess I didn't get the soap gene.

=====

There is also a problem with a small minority of the population who has trouble with garlic. Tastes great, adds to the flavor of dishes, etc. The next day, you sweat it out and it smells like old socks and regurgitated beer. Some people literally can't process garlic.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 25, 2017 03:56 PM (MIKMs)

385
I've a closet full of incandescent bulbs. I rotate the incandescents in the winter to LEDs in the summer.

Posted by: gNewt at June 25, 2017 03:57 PM (vlVF/)

386 But interviews with tenants, industry executives and fire safety engineers point to a gross failure of government oversight, a refusal to heed warnings from inside Britain and around the world...

Every time you go to do anything nontrivial the crackpots come out of the woodwork to tell you what you're doing is going to Kill Everybody Horribly. 99% of them just need more medication, and it's not surprising institutions sometimes miss that last 1%.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 25, 2017 03:57 PM (+azJs)

387 The eco warriors are hell bent on forcing their agenda on us globally, the government decided being green was more important than being safe? The boxes were clearly marked not for use over so many meters, but they put them up anyway. The desire to make them so called energy efficient took precedent over safety, hay so what if wind mills kill off entire species of birds and bats those mills make liberals feel all superior to the rest of us.

Posted by: Rose at June 25, 2017 04:02 PM (3N8PC)

388 "IIANM that was a signed and ratified treaty. I don't think Trump could leaglly terminate it. The Senate would have to kill it.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:39"

And it was done treaty first, then do the science which didn't support the treaty very much so it was buried away and journolista-science was emplaced to guard the treaty compound.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 04:06 PM (d3wbb)

389 "What the heck are we supposed to use for cooling after 1/1/2020, harsh language?



Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2017 02:41 PM (AMIL/)"

R-410a which doesn't contain fluorine, I think.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 04:09 PM (d3wbb)

390 Chlorine not Fluorine above.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 04:09 PM (d3wbb)

391 377 265,
Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:26 PM

When the fire was happening I read somewhere that the rent there was $2,500 per month.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 03:47 PM (d3wbb)


That's too damn high!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 04:14 PM (0mRoj)

392
391 377 265,
Posted by: Ralph at June 25, 2017 02:26 PM

When the fire was happening I read somewhere that the rent there was $2,500 per month.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 25, 2017 03:47 PM (d3wbb)


That's too damn high!

Oh yeah? Welcome to London.

(I'm thinking that if we get to the point where we have honest to God pogroms against rich people, and if murder is made legal so long as you can prove that the person you killed is richer than you - reporters and journalists around the world will barely contain their glee.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at June 25, 2017 04:23 PM (eq0EU)

393 That rent may have been too damn high but I betcha the gubberment paid most of it.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2017 04:28 PM (Q68/Z)

394 (I'm thinking that if we get to the point where we have honest to God
pogroms against rich people, and if murder is made legal so long as you
can prove that the person you killed is richer than you - reporters and
journalists around the world will barely contain their glee.)


They'd better think again. I'm pretty sure the coastal assclowns of journalism make a lot more than we dirt people here in flyover country.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

395 This NYT article is total BS...

...they're going out of their way to conceal the fact that the cladding selected was a GREEN product, and therefore Gaia-friendly.

Due to environmental regulations, the architects, builders, and inspectors obliged BY LAW to use / approve the items that contributed to that inferno.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 25, 2017 05:16 PM (Quwsn)

396 OT: Drudge has joined the fake news bunch.

Has headline claiming NASA about to announce evidence of alien life.

Linked article says nothing about actual evidence of alien life or any announcement thereof.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 25, 2017 06:04 PM (3myMJ)

397 Too hot outside to go sit on the porch and besides.
neighbor came over and got the last of my bourbon yesterday so the
rocking chair would be no fun.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 02:36 PM (mpXpK)

Time to stop being the southern gentleman and tell her to buy her own. But, hey, I'm from NJ.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 25, 2017 06:04 PM (TPimP)

398 Meremortal: yeah, it's tabloid bullshit. The NASA guy was recorded saying we're on the verge of discovering alien life. By that logic I'm on the verge of motorboating Kate Upton just because I have photographic evidence that she exists and has boobs.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 25, 2017 06:28 PM (6tJGh)

399 Drudge is also leading with the NYP story that the 'Russians!!!!' story is all Dem BS.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2017 06:41 PM (oVJmc)

400 How bout we just not use propane as a refrigerant.......

Posted by: Jason at June 25, 2017 08:23 PM (Sh0Ue)

401 I read early on the reason the fire spread so rapidly was environmental friendly products were used on the exterior potrtion of the building, creating conditions that allowed the building to burn on the outside and upward, something fires normally don't do.

Posted by: Ken James at June 25, 2017 10:17 PM (7Te2t)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-25-2017

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Central Public Library, Oslo, Norway


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look like they can also be used as a sail for a good-sized yacht.


When The English Stopped Being Gentlemen And Started Fighting Dirty

Going all the way back to WWII for this:

In preparation for D-Day, a highly secretive British department known as Baker Street worked to drop 250 saboteurs behind enemy lines with one purpose: to stop the German army from sending supplies and reinforcements to Normandy. These guerillas were tasked with a massive coordinated sabotage mission to frustrate and block Hitler’s war machine in any and all ways possible. Especially important was stopping Germany’s most lethal division, the 2nd SS Panzer Division, Das Reich.

One saboteur destroyed all of Das Reich’s tank transporters by replacing the axle oil with axle grease mixed with an abrasive, forcing the division to travel by road and damaging six out of every 10 tanks. A separate team then barraged Das Reich with sabotage after sabotage, including felling trees in their path and planting bombs beneath them. In the end, what should have been a 72-hour journey took Hitler’s crack tank division 17 days—enough time for the allies to establish their beachhead.

All of this is detailed in the book Churchill’s Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare: The Mavericks Who Plotted Hitler’s Defeat by Giles Milton. The D-Day operations of this group was part of a larger, more comprehensive war effort:

In the spring of 1939, a top-secret organization was founded in London: its purpose was to plot the destruction of Hitler's war machine through spectacular acts of sabotage.

The guerrilla campaign that followed was every bit as extraordinary as the six men who directed it. One of them, Cecil Clarke, was a maverick engineer who had spent the 1930s inventing futuristic caravans. Now, his talents were put to more devious use: he built the dirty bomb used to assassinate Hitler's favorite, Reinhard Heydrich. Another, William Fairbairn, was a portly pensioner with an unusual passion: he was the world's leading expert in silent killing, hired to train the guerrillas being parachuted behind enemy lines. Led by dapper Scotsman Colin Gubbins, these men—along with three others—formed a secret inner circle that, aided by a group of formidable ladies, single-handedly changed the course Second World War: a cohort hand-picked by Winston Churchill, whom he called his Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Perhaps this is the last great untold story of the Second World War.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

‘All their geese are swans’ is a 17th century expression implying that everything that somebody says is wildly exaggerated or overblown.

Usage: All of CNN's geese are swans.

Liberty's Nemesis

An article entitled A Literary Guide To Hating Barack Obama appeared in The National Laughingstock last August. It lists the usual books by Jerome Corsi, Dinesh D'Souza and Michelle Malkin. But it does have one that I had never heard of before, Liberty's Nemesis: The Unchecked Expansion of the State

...a dense work that will never be a bestseller but that nonetheless offers the most enduring conservative criticism of the Obama years. “Liberty’s Nemesis” (2016), edited by Dean Reuter and John Yoo and featuring some three dozen contributors, mixes scholarship, ideology and activism to argue that Obama has presided over an enormous and dangerous expansion of the administrative and regulatory state. “Its operations are so vast and its reach so sprawling that it lies beyond the control or comprehension of any one man or group of men,” Yoo writes, making “rational management impossible.”

Which is ironic, because the origin of the "administrative state" can be traced back to Woodrow Wilson who thought that government had grown too complex and technical for Joe Sixpak voters and politicians and instead, had to be managed by experts. So now apparently it has grown too complex even for the experts.

I'm glad to see that this issue has picked up a bit of traction. One of Glenn "Instapundit" Reynold's recent columns mentions The Administrative Threat by Philip Hamburger who traces the origins of adminstrative law back ever further:

Hamburger explains that the prerogative powers once exercised by English kings, until they were circumscribed after a resulting civil war, have now been reinvented and lodged in administrative agencies, even though the United States Constitution was drafted specifically to prevent just such abuses. But today, the laws that actually affect people and businesses are seldom written by Congress; instead they are created by administrative agencies through a process of “informal rulemaking,” a process whose chief virtue is that it’s easy for the rulers to engage in, and hard for the ruled to observe or influence. Non-judicial administrative courts decide cases, and impose penalties, without a jury or an actual judge. And the protections in the Constitution and Bill of Rights (like the requirement for a judge-issued search warrant before a search) are often inapplicable.

And it's just going to get worse. Unless it starts hurting progressives. Then we'll start seeing news stories 24/7 on the National Crisis caused by government agencies. They'll be using phrases like "unelected bureaucrats" and the "imperial presidency."


Moron Recommendations

Longtime moron fitzworth recommends the novel Close Hauled, about which he says:

Rob Avery’s first novel, “Close Hauled”, reads like a pleasant melding of Robert Parker’s ‘Spenser’ series and John D. McDonald’s ‘Travis McGee’ series, but set in modern day with the protagonist (Sim Green) living on a boat in a Southern California marina. The plot is intelligent, the writing smooth and unobtrusive, the logic sound, and the violence sudden. It’s a great start to what I hope will be a long series (the second novel is already complete).

The Amazon blurb is quite long and not easily excerpted, so just go over there and read the whole thing.


What I'm Reading

I'm about half-way through The Hidden Truth: A Science Fiction Techno-Thriller, novel by moron author Hans Schantz that I've mentioned here before. The two main characters are high school science nerds, of the sort you used to encounter in the Heinlein juveniles, except that one of them devotes most of his time to trying to pick up girls, which is something you didn't see too much of in the old Heinlwin books.

who have stumbled upon a mysterious anomaly:

...a discrepancy between an online version of an old physics book and its pulp original, he quite naturally assumes there was an error made in its scanning. Investigating further, he discovers other 'discrepancies' between old physics books and their online copies, discrepancies which are all related to a particular and peculiar theory of electromagnetism. The more he investigates the clearer it becomes to him that there exists a century-plus long conspiracy to erase all evidence of the intriguing, though counterintuitive, theory. Before too long, the cabal notices the student&8217;s nosing about and the young man learns how deadly serious the conspirators are about suppressing that bit of knowledge.

Schantz has completed the sequel and I should have an announcement about it in next week's book thread.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.


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1 Currently doing a re-read of a Louis L'Amour book

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:05 AM (mpXpK)

2 Thank God!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:06 AM (QGoUX)

3 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 09:06 AM (Ot7+c)

4 Do the comics count?

Say, a minor character was revealed to be lesbian in Rex Morgan, M.D. this week.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:07 AM (ul9CR)

5 Nothing much new, still slowly slogging away on Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II series but more pouring over Edwin Coddington's The Gettysburg Campaign, A Study in Command in anticipation of next weekends anniversary game.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 09:08 AM (Ot7+c)

6 I used to love those Travis McGee books.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

7 Good Sunday morning, horde! 'Bout time someone woke up.

Posted by: April at June 25, 2017 09:10 AM (e8PP1)

8 As far as the Ad block goes, mentioned earlier, I turn mine off for Ace to try and help him out a little on his revenue.

Back to your regularly scheduled Boooooks!

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 25, 2017 09:10 AM (MEXba)

9 I was kind of surprised to see that my AdBlock total blocked ads is approaching one million.

I blame PornHub.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:11 AM (ul9CR)

10 Speaking of books, just out of idle curiosity I did a search on a book
that my Dad wrote and got published back in the early 70's. He was a
decent writer and mostly wrote Westerns, but that genre was so flooded
with really good writers that it was hard to break into. Anyway, he only
had the one book published.
The result of the search astounded me. I
found one used copy in the US, and two used copies on Amazon.uk. The
two copies in the UK are going for about $26.00 each, and the US one is
going for about $5.00. I'm going to get a copy because I lost mine in a
move. Pretty cool, right?

Posted by: Old Blue at June 25, 2017 09:11 AM (FAo3p)

11 I know I shouldn't be amused by the last name of "Hamburger" but I am. I'm shallow like that.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 09:11 AM (BO/km)

12 And IIRC I linked to an article a few months ago where SCOTUS shat all over one of those administrative agencies when they were running amuck.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

13 Can anyone recommend me a book that gives a good overview of the french revolution through Waterloo? thank you.

Posted by: dIb at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (VJOLZ)

14 Good morning horde!

Guess what, I got an advance copy of long running fool's new fantasy novel and it's quite awesome!
It's on pre-order status.
Check out my review (link in nic)

Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (4P/s6)

15 I finally started reading Atlas Shrugged. I put it off, because it is a long book and I didn't expect it to be to be that well written.
I'm about half way through and it is a very timely piece of literature. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: kraki at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (TNa9O)

16 This week, I'm still working on On The Brink by Jay Winik, and mixing it up a little with The Myth of Poker Talent by Alexander Fitzgerald. Trying to improve my game.

Posted by: April at June 25, 2017 09:13 AM (e8PP1)

17 In the next thrilling adventure will the science nerds discover the much theorized Aether that surrounds the planets?

Tis the Spirit of Wonder and the Scientific Boys Club.
https://youtu.be/JObrEwbJyNs

Sounds like a fun book.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:13 AM (aet/3)

18 please remember to submit your recipes for the AoS cookbook...deadline is this friday, june 30th.

see main page/sidebar in blue

Posted by: strawberry tart at June 25, 2017 09:14 AM (EqvVS)

19 The French Revolution is often split from the Napoleoic era, and interested in the general overview or military campaigns?

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 09:15 AM (Ot7+c)

20 I'm about half way through and it is a very timely piece of literature. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: kraki at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (TNa9O


By the time you get through reading it, you'll think Rand was a prophet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 09:15 AM (L5xfm)

21 15
I finally started reading Atlas Shrugged. I put it off, because it is a
long book and I didn't expect it to be to be that well written.
I'm about half way through and it is a very timely piece of literature. I highly recommend it.



Posted by: kraki at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (TNa9O)

That would be one of the best books of all time if Ayn Rand had not been struck with diarrhea of the typewriter. it is in bad need of an editor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:16 AM (mpXpK)

22 Took me about a week to read Atlas Shrugged. It is a good book.

Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:17 AM (gDoff)

23 BTW, the three part movie does edit the book down and I have decided I like the movie better than the book. That is rare.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

24 This week Admiral McRaven will be giving a speech at my place of work (the Stuckey's on Route 70) so I thought I'd read "Make Your Bed: Little Things That Can Change Your Life".

I had no idea that he got tangled up in his parachute on a jump and the two risers each twisted around a leg and suddenly pulled apart, instantly separating his pelvis five inches and detaching his stomach muscles from the pelvic bone. He was out of commission for months and it was only the intercession of Admiral Olsen that kept him in the service.

Here's his commencement speech at U of T:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBQLFLei70

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:19 AM (QGoUX)

25 Regarding the French Revolution make sure to read Simon schama's 'Citizens' if you never have. He's a leftist crank but it's an incredibly good read

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 09:20 AM (TppKb)

26 15 I finally started reading Atlas Shrugged. I put it off, because it is a long book and I didn't expect it to be to be that well written.

It makes some excellent points but I found it a real slog. Has anyone ever actually made it all the way through John Galt's radio speech? The whole nation would have been bored to death before he was halfway through.

But it has its moments. The utter destruction of Communism's maxim "from each according to his ability, to each according to their need" when Dagny visits the factory where Galt used to work and learns from its unrepentant former owners why it went out of business...that was priceless.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:20 AM (ul9CR)

27 I wish they hadn't changed the actors in the movie. Is it worth buying the 3rd DVD?

Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:20 AM (gDoff)

28 Excellent content, OM. Thank you!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 25, 2017 09:21 AM (DMUuz)

29 27
I wish they hadn't changed the actors in the movie. Is it worth buying the 3rd DVD?


Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:20 AM (gDoff)

I think they were forced to change the actors due to money issues. And yes, the 3rd movie is worth it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:21 AM (mpXpK)

30 BTW, the three part movie does edit the book down and I have decided I like the movie better than the book. That is rare.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)


Huh. I watched Part 1, was so unimpressed that I didn't bother continuing. Perhaps it gets better.

They should redo Atlas Shrugged as a miniseries for Netflix or Amazon or whatever. Give it a retro look and feel. Film it in black-and-white.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 09:21 AM (L5xfm)

31 #21 diarrhea of the typewriter.

LOL, perfect! I think she used the phrase "Dagny inclined her head" alone about 154 times. Why is she always inclining her head, I kept asking myself.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:21 AM (ul9CR)

32 I finally started reading Atlas Shrugged. I put it
off, because it is a long book and I didn't expect it to be to be that
well written.
I'm about half way through and it is a very timely piece of literature. I highly recommend it.



Posted by: kraki at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (TNa9O)

It's a great book for laying out the basics of individualism. After reading it a dozen times, I've started thinking of it less as a novel and more as a thousand page philosophical essay. And it's amazing to see, in a book published in the 1950s, villainous words and concepts that our 'elite' politicians and self-appointed intellectuals are using today. Sometimes I wonder if Rand had a time machine.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

33 Thanks Vic. Off to amazon. or maybe the Rand website.

Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (gDoff)

34 A Leftist might make a good expert on the beginning of Leftism of the French Revolution

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (Ot7+c)

35 30 Huh. I watched Part 1, was so unimpressed that I didn't bother continuing. Perhaps it gets better.

They
should redo Atlas Shrugged as a miniseries for Netflix or Amazon or
whatever. Give it a retro look and feel. Film it in black-and-white.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 09:21 AM (L5xfm)

The first movie was slow getting started but that was mainly because the book is slow getting started.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:23 AM (mpXpK)

36 Just started Annals of the Parish and the Ayrshire Legatees by John Galt.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 25, 2017 09:23 AM (TKmA0)

37 Currently reading Vince Milam's newest, The Suriname Job, which is very good. Went to order the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Conduct - ebook was nearly as much as hardback. Bought the physical copy.

Also discovered that there are SJWs on the right - same tactics and hurt feelingz, different code of 'justice'. It occurred to me they've always been around but we used to get rid of some of them in duels. Now, they take to the internet and assassinate character instead.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 25, 2017 09:23 AM (+JV0f)

38 Also, I had a real problem with Rand's belief that adultery is totes OK and even preferable, as long as both partners share the same politics.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:24 AM (ul9CR)

39 Ouch!

Eris, now THAT would make you walk funny... geez.

There is the story of Douglas Bader, legless ace of the RAF, who collided with a -109 that tore the tail off his fighter in the middle of a dogfight. One tin leg trapped and he's spiraling down when the leather straps holding the leg to his waist finally give away from the strain. And then he was floating down to a French field legless under the billowing canopy of his 'chute.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:24 AM (aet/3)

40 33
Thanks Vic. Off to amazon. or maybe the Rand website.


Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (gDoff)

The movies from Amazon were not that expensive and they are probably even cheaper now. I got them when they were 'fresh".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:25 AM (mpXpK)

41 Actually citizens is really about the fact that revolutions eat their own in the case of the French Revolution repeatedly

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (TppKb)

42 38
Also, I had a real problem with Rand's belief that adultery is totes OK
and even preferable, as long as both partners share the same politics.





Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:24 AM (ul9CR)

She was big into adultery in real life.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (mpXpK)

43 Sorry, Skip, general overview. I need some framework to fill in later as I learn more.

Posted by: dIb at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (VJOLZ)

44 If you want diarrhea of the word processor look no further than Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (aet/3)

45 Per the Morons' recommendations, I read Patrick O'Brian's Master and Commander, and thought it was good. Lots of unfamiliar nautical terminology, of course, but it was engaging enough to get the next one. I tried to read the series once before and couldn't get into it, but that was a few years ago. Does anyone else do that, namely, try unsuccessfully to read a book, age a few years, then pick it up with no problems, or am I the only one who dies that?

I'm also working on Jamaica Inn, by Daphne du Maurier. I thought it was going to be a nice little Victorian novel, and it's turning out more like a gothic horror story about smugglers in nineteenth century Cornwall. Interesting, but not what I expected.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (26lkV)

46 Spencer was the man.

Posted by: Cosda at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (7nuQi)

47 "Sometimes I wonder if Rand had a time machine."

Ace bought it about nine years ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 09:27 AM (J+eG2)

48 I read Melville's "Omoo" after discussions here and am now working thru "Mardi". If you like stories of seafaring in the South Seas in the early 1800s then these are for you. They are not necessarily all factual though, just based on things he had seen or heard. Entertaining enough to hold my attention though. Also, free

The Churchill MUW books sounds interesting. I might leave a hint to someone that it might be a good birthday present for me.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 09:28 AM (BO/km)

49 44
If you want diarrhea of the word processor look no further than Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (aet/3)

No sh*t. I said about half way through that series if I had known it was going to drag on forever I would have never started it. He also was in bad need of an editor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

50 Also, I had a real problem with Rand's belief that adultery is totes OK and even preferable, as long as both partners share the same politics.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 09:24 AM (ul9CR)


Right. She did that in real life, too. That is, she cucked her husband.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 09:28 AM (L5xfm)

51 I reread Atlas Shrugged every 5 or 10 years and always find something new.

Must confess I skip some of the long monologues or just read parts of them.

One of my favorite memes is Dagny being confronted by Ellis Wyatt, who originally sees her as another parasite hack but later becomes a close friend and kindred spirit.

Also the scene where Dagny is sitting on a pile of frozen lumber and (Hank Rearden I believe?) works out a way to solve a problem with a different bridge design from Rearden Metal.

Dozens of great scenes like these.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 09:29 AM (eP+dt)

52 "I highly recommend it.
Posted by: kraki"

Oh yes. Once.

Posted by: f'd at June 25, 2017 09:30 AM (BO/km)

53 Check a little later and I will see what I might have for recommendations, watching race now

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 09:30 AM (Ot7+c)

54 Thanks JEM, looks interesting. I'll order that too.

Or maybe two good books covering the split would be fine. too. I got 6 days off work and no internet.

Posted by: dIb at June 25, 2017 09:30 AM (VJOLZ)

55 Great book thread, as usual, Oregon Muse. Have I mentioned that I really like the "It Pays to Increase Your Word Power" feature? Because I really do. For the new words/expressions, but even more for your examples.

I will have to read the book about Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. That's the kind of stuff I find fascinating. When we were in London recently, my very favorite thing we did was tour through Churchill's War Rooms. It was an incredible site. I highly recommend it for anyone who gets the chance to go there.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM (sBOL1)

56
"Sometimes I wonder if Rand had a time machine."



Ace bought it about nine years ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 25, 2017 09:27 AM (J+eG2)
Geez, you'd think it'd have a more accurate clock.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM (26lkV)

57 I almost went blind reading the Wheel of Time series. Had to fast read through some of the preaching sermons in Atlas Shrugged. But it would be nice if Atlas were a mini series if edited well.

Posted by: Talulah Jane at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM (WLNyn)

58 Also, what am I reading?

Recipes. Lots and lots of recipes.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM (sBOL1)

59 Bluebell- I'll try to get a recipe to you today, but I'm running around like a chicken with no head, so it might be tomorrow.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:34 AM (26lkV)

60 Bluebell-

I keep forgetting. I will post my pasta fagioli recipe later today.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 09:34 AM (89T5c)

61 Reading The Russian Revolution by Sean McMeekin. Let's put it this way: anyone who says that the ideals of the revolution were later perverted into terror by Stalin is full of it. Lenin was a power-crazed monster who didn't blink an eye at the deaths of millions. Every single thing the Bolsheviks did - every single thing - was a human catastrophe.

From the epilogue:

"A century of well-catalogued disasters later, no one should have the excuse of ignorance. Even so, history can play tricks on us. The popularity of Marxist-style maximalist socialism is on the rise again in the United States and other Western 'capitalist' countries, even as its appeal is all but dead in those countries where it was actually tried... Today's Western socialists, dreaming of a world where private property and inequality are outlawed, where rational economic development is planned by far-seeing intellectuals, should be careful what they wish for. They may just get it."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 09:35 AM (dLMUB)

62 Just got it from Amazon for $7. I bought the first 2 when they were 'new' too.

Posted by: Infidel at June 25, 2017 09:36 AM (gDoff)

63 Skip!

Wth man?

They've all gone crazy in this race.

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 25, 2017 09:36 AM (MEXba)

64 "He also was in bad need of an editor."

It's my opinion that he dragged it out on purpose as a cash cow until he died. Same shit George Martin pulled.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 09:36 AM (n1dE4)

65 Recipes. Lots and lots of recipes.





Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM


I'll try to add some more later.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2017 09:37 AM (n6g6t)

66 Thank you, right wing yankee and Mr. Aspirin Factory! I'll be on the lookout for them.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)

67 Oh yay, RMBS! Weasel will pull off yesterday's submissions for me today, so I haven't seen them yet. Can't wait!

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:38 AM (sBOL1)

68 I finished up Map Drawn By A Spy by Guillermo Infante Cabrera, a posthumous work from a manuscript found in his house. A good look at mid 1960s Cuba from the perspective of a once-supporter but since disillusioned by what Cuba was turning into as opposed to the promises of the Castros.

Main issue I had with the book was the translation. I don't think the translator was familiar with Infante Cabrera so the book didn't read as vividly as others of his. Still, it nicely shows the lie that is Cuba from someone who knows firsthand.

Yesterday I received my review copy of Stories From The Dirt: Indiscretions Of An Adventure Junkie by John Long. It's looking like a fun read from a guy who likes to experience life...lots of life.

And before I forget, I finally read The Director's Cut by our very own MP4. Excellent book.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 25, 2017 09:40 AM (2VN2E)

69 So, update on my 1st book. Final edit is done, maps are done, illustrations done (deleted; there were only two included as an arbitrary decision and I decided I didn't like them), front and back covers mainly finished.

To do: dust jacket flaps, ISBNs and matching barcodes, revision of copyright page re: ISBN, and uploads, I think.

Oh, and the second book...

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 09:40 AM (n1dE4)

70 Taken up with writing this week - writing and reviewing stuff I asked for through Amazon Vine. Slogging through one of Stirling's "Change" novels, a couple of pages at a time each night before falling asleep.

The Ministry of Ungentlemanly War sounds fascinating. Added to my wish list.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 25, 2017 09:41 AM (xnmPy)

71 Just last week I was having one of those days at work when the bs was piled so deep, it felt I was getting knocked back two steps for every forward step I took.

For some reason I flashed on the scene where Hank Rearden had a steel plant go down (as I recall) and he got on the phone, found another plant, and acquired it that same afternoon.

Sounds corny, but that thought refocused me.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 09:41 AM (eP+dt)

72 French Revolution in fiction.

Paula Volsky's Illusion always has a place with me. That Michael Wheelan did the cover art, well that is the cherry on top.
http://tinyurl.com/ycld4bld

Or maybe a manga retelling in The Rose of Versailles which plays the history leading to the events and the initial event pretty straight but from the fictional eyes of Oskar, the youngest daughter of a nobleman beset with nothing but daughters so he raises Oskar as a boy and she in turn becomes Captain of the Guard for Marie Antoinette.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y85veskl

There is a follow series in which Oskar very much becomes the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:42 AM (aet/3)

73 Finished Tamera Alexander's "From a Distance (Timber Ridge Chronicles #1)". It was fine, but a story about a 30-something career woman in 19th century Colorado Territory doesn't really ring true to me. But she's writing to her demographic. I get that. That said I'm torn with picking up the next in the series or moving on to Neal Stephenson's "The Diamond Age."

Posted by: sinalco at June 25, 2017 09:42 AM (yODqO)

74 Kim Harrison wrote a prequel to her Hollows series called "The Turn", which I am looking forward to starting. I miss all the Cinci freaks!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:42 AM (QGoUX)

75 I think the major problem with WOT was Jordon just stuck too many characters in the story, had too many subplots, and had way too much Nynaeve hair pulling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

76 64 It's my opinion that he dragged it out on purpose as a cash cow until he died. Same shit George Martin pulled.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 09:36 AM (n1dE4)

I read somewhere that the original intent was to have 6 books in the series. That is still too many.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:47 AM (mpXpK)

77 Awhile back OM wrote about Vincent Price's cookbook. Recently, I came across something similar "Leo Tolstoy's Family Recipe Book"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yahbexlm

I love the publisher's disclaimer at the beginning of the listing:
"Leo Tolstoy become vegetarian when he was 50 years old. Before that his true passion was hunting. So, do not expect only vegetarian recipes."

Crazy vegetarians!

Posted by: sinalco at June 25, 2017 09:47 AM (yODqO)

78 I finished "Amy Lynn" by Jack July. Enjoyable read, kind of like a Southern old-style W.E.B. Griffin.

Now reading "Starship Grifters" by Robert Kroese. I loved "Aye, Robot" which was part of the Wrongthink giveaway, had to go back and read this one.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at June 25, 2017 09:47 AM (THS4q)

79 Witchdoktor, I just filled out a purchase request for our library system for the Churchill book. They have 10 of the author's other books so I hope they buy this one.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:48 AM (sBOL1)

80 Seems like Churchill's dirty tricks brigade is an ideal story for an Amazon/HBO series. Prolly way too much for a stand alone movie.

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 25, 2017 09:48 AM (MEXba)

81 60 Bluebell-

I keep forgetting. I will post my pasta fagioli recipe later today.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2017 09:34 AM (89T5c)

*sigh*

Why does everything have to be ghey these days?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:48 AM (0mRoj)

82 original was published in 1978 and revised in 1999. The title is a bit misleading because the book actually covers all German armored fighting vehicles (AFVs) including self-propelled artillery, armored cars and captured tanks. Lots of information and I had not realized just how many different AFVs and variants the Germans developed. I don't think Germany had a chance to win a long-term industrial production war but it certainly helped the Allied war effort that the Germans didn't concentrate production on just a few different AFVs.

If you have serious interest in the topic (such as the differences between the PzKw III ausf. M and PzKw III ausf. N and how many of each were produced), this is a good book to have. Rating = 5/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 09:48 AM (5Yee7)

83 Speaking of Daphne duMaurier, I recently saw the new movie My Cousin Rachel. I haven't read the book but the movie was excellent. I was never sure what was going on -was Rachel an evil murderess or innocent victim? I highly recommend the movie.

Posted by: Biancaneve at June 25, 2017 09:49 AM (1fMZT)

84
I had occasion to quote from memory the first N pages from Dr. Suess' One Fish, Two Fish. Red Fish, Blue Fish. last weekend (where N is the page containing, "I do not know, go ask your Dad!") Mrs Krebs never fails to tell me that doing that, and quoting some later portions of the book, was what first endeared me to her. "From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere", I guess.

Finished East of Chosin, on which I opined here last week. I have started the sequel, Escaping the Trap and hope to be able to offer a judgement on that book in a week or two. Lt. Col. Roy E. Appleman, AUS, authored both books.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 09:49 AM (pNxlR)

85 Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

Speaking of thousand page philosophy essays, that's essentially what War and Peace is. It's full title could be War and Peace and the Causes Thereof: Does Free Will Exist? The epilogue is explicitly about free will, Tolstoy didn't believe in it. He also thought that Napoleon was a rotten general who tended to lose the battles that *counted* but was great at PR.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 09:49 AM (sEDyY)

86 Insomniac silly

Fagioli in this case pretty much means we are talking pasta and beans soup.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:50 AM (aet/3)

87 It's just a symptom of the decline but if you Google God Save The Queen lyrics you get the Sex Pistols song lyrics in Google boldface, not the actual anthem of Great Britain.

Here's the second stanza of the original unabridged version.

O Lord our God arise
Scatter her (Queen's) enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all

So yeah, the Brits are instructed to deceive in competition at a high level.

"Confound their politics" always catches my eye.

Posted by: Nosferatu Silver at June 25, 2017 09:50 AM (+kahX)

88 oops, @ 82, I had a "cut and paste error" so disregard. This is the intended post:

An acquisition courtesy of "josephstan" was Encylcopedia of German Tanks of World War Two, Revised Ed by Peter Chamberlain; the original was published in 1978 and revised in 1999. The title is a bit misleading because the book actually covers all German armored fighting vehicles (AFVs) including self-propelled artillery, armored cars and captured tanks. Lots of information and I had not realized just how many different AFVs and variants the Germans developed. I don't think Germany had a chance to win a long-term industrial production war but it certainly helped the Allied war effort that the Germans didn't concentrate production on just a few different AFVs. If you have serious interest in the topic (such as the differences between the PzKw III ausf. M and PzKw III ausf. N and how many of each were produced), this is a good book to have. Rating = 5/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 09:50 AM (5Yee7)

89 "Dirty Tricks Brigade." I'd like to see the same concept in a modern or near-future setting, re: asymmetrical warfare. Would probably require a solid grounding in electronic/computer operations, though, which ain't common.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (n1dE4)

90 8 As far as the Ad block goes, mentioned earlier, I turn mine off for Ace to try and help him out a little on his revenue.

Back to your regularly scheduled Boooooks!
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 25, 2017 09:10 AM (MEXba)


Good on you!

I turn off my ad blocker for sites that I visit frequently and support. My understanding is that using an ad blocker on AOSHQ diminishes the amount that Ace is able to charge for hosting ads.

If we spend a lot of AOSHQ but use an ad blocker, we are in effect hurting Ace’s income.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (nvMvs)

91 86 Insomniac silly

Fagioli in this case pretty much means we are talking pasta and beans soup.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:50 AM (aet/3)

I know. It was a joke. And some people say I'M a literalist...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (0mRoj)

92 I know. It was a joke. And some people say I'M a literalist...
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (0mRoj)
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Next you're going to tell us you're not an insomniac.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:52 AM (sBOL1)

93 Retired Buckeye Cop, can't remember where I read it. It might have been in the Army War College's book on the Eastern Front. But the Germans went into Barbarossa with about 500 different vehicle types and the infantry was still no mechanized as they went to war on horses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:53 AM (aet/3)

94 13 Can anyone recommend me a book that gives a good overview of the french revolution through Waterloo? thank you.
Posted by: dIb at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (VJOLZ)

For the Revolution itself, I would recommend Schama's "Citizens." For the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, the best overall history I'd recommend "The War of Wars" by Robert Harvey. After that you can find books on all the different campaigns and theaters of a quarter century of warfare

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 09:53 AM (ANIFC)

95 92 I know. It was a joke. And some people say I'M a literalist...
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (0mRoj)
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Next you're going to tell us you're not an insomniac.

Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:52 AM (sBOL1)

Everything about me is a lie!
*sobs*

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2017 09:53 AM (0mRoj)

96 This week, I'm still working on On The Brink by Jay Winik, and mixing it up a little with The Myth of Poker Talent by Alexander Fitzgerald. Trying to improve my game.
Posted by: April at June 25, 2017 09:13 AM (e8PP1)


I got about halfway through On the Brink, and stopped. Not because Winik isn't highly readable, or that the subject isn't interesting, it's more to do with my general disgust of all this political.

Which of course, is more about today, than it was the Reagan era. I'll pick it up again eventually, but for now, it's sitting with a handful of other half-read books.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 09:54 AM (Pz4pT)

97 14
Good morning horde!


Guess what, I got an advance copy of long running fool's new fantasy novel and it's quite awesome!

It's on pre-order status.

Check out my review (link in nic)
Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (4P/s6)

_____________________________________

Thanks, VMom!

Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 25, 2017 09:54 AM (+JV0f)

98 Another series that had far too many books and stretched on forever was the Sword of Truth series. Then they turned that into a really crappy TV series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

99 I finally started reading Atlas Shrugged. I put it off, because it is a long book and I didn't expect it to be to be that well written.
I'm about half way through and it is a very timely piece of literature.



You can safely skip the 90 pages of John Galt's speech.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 25, 2017 09:55 AM (LTHVh)

100 Give me back my nick stupid computer.

The English are good at two things in empire building that the Americans never got the hang of. Educating the local people and being super slick. They have the skills to take out an enemy without firing a shot.

The Apartheid dismantling of their Dutch and German competitors in South Africa during the 80's comes to mind. They marched in London and their bitter centuries old contest with the Boers over control of South Africa was settled.

Posted by: charleyhorse at June 25, 2017 09:56 AM (+kahX)

101 Everybody knows finocchio is the slang term for "light in the loafers".

It means "fennel", so there could indeed be a "finocchio al forno" (baked in cream) recipe for Bluebell.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:56 AM (QGoUX)

102 Speaking of Winik, I think it was in his book about the Revolutionary War period, and touching on the entire French revoultion and American War of 1812, that he gives the account of some American soldiers who captured a Brit.

Now, these Americans were of course, volunteers. The Brit, as virtually all British soldiers were at the time, was a veteran of some nasty business with the French, and elsewhere. Having experience on the continent, his captors were no match for him.

At one point, he broke free of his bonds, took a weapon from one, shot the other, and apparently, due to his absolute brutal way of warfare, totally unexperienced by the Americans at the time, has survived more than two centuries later as a cautionary tale to be told of taking the British to be courtly gentlemen, when it comes to warfare.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 09:57 AM (Pz4pT)

103 It means "fennel", so there could indeed be a "finocchio al forno" (baked in cream) recipe for Bluebell.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:56 AM (QGoUX)
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Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 09:58 AM (sBOL1)

104 Burt, I am constantly struck by the similarities between then and now. The struggle between establishment and party rebels, the constant leaking--some things never change.

Posted by: April at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (e8PP1)

105 "A century of well-catalogued disasters later, no one should have the excuse of ignorance.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2017 09:35 AM (dLMUB)


Hold my beer.

Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (L5xfm)

106 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

My understanding is that his wife was his editor. She did him a real disservice by treating everything he put n the paper as gold. Unless of course, that *was* a more streamlined version and simply the best *anyone* could do with him. In general, it seems like having close family as editor puts that person in a conflict of interest between the personal and professional.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (sEDyY)

107 Summer reading only for me. I read Midnight at the Bright Ideas Bookstore. It was fine. A lot of buzz for just an ok book. Next I am reading I Found You. Another one getting a lot of blog talk. We will see.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (fbk07)

108 ***REJECTED***
Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 09:58 AM (sBOL1)
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Hate crime!!!!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (QGoUX)

109 Guess what, I got an advance copy of long running fool's new fantasy novel and it's quite awesome!

Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 25, 2017 09:12 AM (4P/s6


Is it about fleet-footed elves?

Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:00 AM (L5xfm)

110 "due to his absolute brutal way of warfare, totally unexperienced by the Americans at the time"

Little from that period compares to the Indian Wars in their savagery. Maybe those two Americans were greenhorns, but brutal, sneaky, underhanded frontier warfare was not unknown to Americans. They practically invented it, as far as Western civilization was concerned.

A widespread British complain early in the war was that the Americans didn't fight like gentlemen, but like Indians.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:01 AM (n1dE4)

111 So yeah, the Brits are instructed to deceive in competition at a high level.

Posted by: Nosferatu Silver at June 25, 2017 09:50 AM (+kahX)


It's not called "Perfidious Albion" for nothing.

Posted by: cool breeze at June 25, 2017 10:02 AM (TKf/P)

112 Why do I think the spaceman of this magazine cover ate at Chipolte's of Uranus??

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/selection-du-weekend-249-50.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 10:02 AM (aet/3)

113 Retired Buckeye Cop, can't remember where I read it. It might have been in the Army War College's book on the Eastern Front. But the Germans went into Barbarossa with about 500 different vehicle types and the infantry was still no mechanized as they went to war on horses.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 09:53 AM (aet/3)


Germany's lack of production capability is why they used so many captured vehicles. Fortunately for the Allies, the Germans never got serious about standardizing production and wasted a lot of resources in search of ultimate super weapons. If they had just cranked out as many PzKw IV and StuG III with the 75mm as they could, the Germans may have been able to prolong the war. Both of those were AFV designs that were in service from 1939 to 1945. Pretty much all the Germans did was up-gun them as the war progressed.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 10:03 AM (5Yee7)

114 Fennel is gross. It's a way to hide the greater grossness of pork. Still will eat pork because bacon but again, injecting liquid smoke to turn something into something less repulsive. My take.

Posted by: charleyhorse at June 25, 2017 10:03 AM (+kahX)

115 Which is ironic, because the origin of the "administrative state" can be traced back to Woodrow Wilson who thought that government had grown too complex and technical for Joe Sixpak voters and politicians and instead, had to be managed by experts. So now apparently it has grown too complex even for the experts.

Looks like I'm arriving in the nick of time. You like self-driving cars and container ships? Get ready for self-driving government!

Posted by: AI at June 25, 2017 10:04 AM (sdi6R)

116 It's the fennel, Eris. Not a fan. Soaking it in cream ain't gonna save it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 10:04 AM (sBOL1)

117 I seem to recall that fennel was originally thought to be a digestive aid or something, hence the use of fennel seed in sausage.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 25, 2017 10:05 AM (2VN2E)

118 I just bought the dapper and debonair MP4's Theda Bara mystery The Director's Cut, which I've been meaning to do for a while now (I'm easily distracted).

I've been a fan of silent movies since I was introduced to them a kid via our local PBS station. The good ones offer a very different aesthetic from talkies, perhaps a little artificial (like opera, heightened emotion and drama) but gorgeous if you are willing to immerse yourself into it. I feel it was cut down too early by the advent of sound, but of course there is no way they could compete.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 10:07 AM (QGoUX)

119 Burt, I am constantly struck by the similarities between then and now. The struggle between establishment and party rebels, the constant leaking--some things never change.
Posted by: April at June 25, 2017 09:59 AM (e8PP1)

Exactly.

It might be Winik's prejudice, but he certainly provides evidence that the biggest threat to the American mission, and Reagan's vision, was the State Department. Not the Russians.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:07 AM (Pz4pT)

120 Off to a cafe to have my weekly decent coffee and write. Might see y'all in a while, if you're still here.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:08 AM (n1dE4)

121 Time to hit the grocery store. Maybe I'l get some fennel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 25, 2017 10:08 AM (QGoUX)

122 There's the fennel bulb and the fennel seed.

I don't mind fennel bulbs. I don't like too many fennel seeds in sausage.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 10:09 AM (ul9CR)

123 Very true, if the Germans had standardized on Pak40 equipped PZKWs and Stugs it could have been different. Along with not searching for a replacement for the PanzerSpahWagen 6x6 which by even '43 was something the Germans did not need to do.

But I can't forget a little battle between Rommel and the British Expeditionary Force in France where the 37mm guns of the PZKWIIIs were not stopping the British infantry tanks. So the future Desert Fox resorted to using his FLAK 88mm guns in the AT role.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 10:09 AM (aet/3)

124
Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld series was for a long time my prime example for, "Take away his typewriter if he tries writing more about this ever again!" (Think The Matrix without Keanu Reeves -- things can get that bad.)

Then Isaac Asimov began committing diarrhea to the printed page in his attempt to join his Foundation trilogy with his I, Robot works. That ended his appeal to me, forever.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 10:10 AM (pNxlR)

125 "due to his absolute brutal way of warfare, totally unexperienced by the Americans at the time"
---------------------------------------
Little from that period compares to the Indian Wars in their savagery. Maybe those two Americans were greenhorns, but brutal, sneaky, underhanded frontier warfare was not unknown to Americans. They practically invented it, as far as Western civilization was concerned.

A widespread British complain early in the war was that the Americans didn't fight like gentlemen, but like Indians.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:01 AM (n1dE4)


I think that was the point. That by 1812, Americans were in their minds, so far removed from the brutality of war, that they were shocked at how deadly it was.

Not just small incidents like the one I described, but certainly the larger ones as well, like having an invading army come in and burn down your capitol.

It's not about chest thumping, who is better than the other, it's just the realities, as we see them being played out today, where a nation can become soft. It can forget it needs to be harsh and cruel with its enemy. It can be defeated, because people in charge stop doing their damned jobs, which is to use all means necessary to destroy an enemy that will destroy you if you let them.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:11 AM (Pz4pT)

126 I know I shouldn't be amused by the last name of "Hamburger" but I am. I'm shallow like that.

Posted by: f'd


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE BOTH OUR NAMES MAKE YOU THINK OF BEEF PATTIES.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 25, 2017 10:13 AM (xAvrH)

127 I am currently reading Classic Liberalism and the Austrian School by Ralph Raico.

The book is a review of the roots of classic liberalism, and more to the point the movements that have sought to suppress liberty for whatever political advantage. It is heavily footnoted, but with explanations to the footnotes instead of just cryptic "cf 122 - 87a" notes.
Anyways, he discusses medieval roots of liberalism and the conflicts between the state and the people - as well as the agreements to the limits of power, through the Scholastic Movement of Salamanca (the Iberian renaissance) on to English thinkers, and the European liberal movements.
He then talks about the push-back against classic liberalism, through mercantilism, Bismarck's centralized states, and the rise socialism and fascism.

He does point out that the term Socialism has never had a good connotation in English, and such political activists as Dewey cast around repeatedly for a catchy name for it, eventually arriving at Liberal, and redefining it to take it over completely.


Raico was a very erudite man, I have linked to his old lectures in the past - he says wonderful things while looking like a cheerful balding schlub with a Brooklyn accent - in so many way the opposite of a recent presidential candidate.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:13 AM (mkDpn)

128 s-ok.

There's always cilantro to dog on. The fennel of the tropics. Cilantro is to inferior cuts of beef what fennel is to inferior cuts of pork. A good masking agent.

Isn't fennel used to make licorice? No wait, that's anise, fennel's uptown cousin.

Posted by: charleyhorse at June 25, 2017 10:13 AM (+kahX)

129 The left has always fought dirty. I wish we could stop being gentlemen.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 10:15 AM (xAvrH)

130
A widespread British complain early in the war was that the Americans didn't fight like gentlemen, but like Indians.


The Battle of King's Mountain was a good example of the colonials rewriting the rules or, more accurately, turning the tables on the British. For their part, the behavior of Banastre Tarleton remains a prime example of the disgraceful or uncivilized Brit in warfare in this country.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 10:16 AM (pNxlR)

131 Fennel seeds are a key ingredient to my great grandmother's Lebkuchen Christmas cookies. And they are delicious.

Can't give you the recipe though. I'd have to kill you all and then myself. It's a German thing, you wouldn't understand.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 10:18 AM (/tuJf)

132 But I can't forget a little battle between Rommel and the British Expeditionary Force in France where the 37mm guns of the PZKWIIIs were not stopping the British infantry tanks. So the future Desert Fox resorted to using his FLAK 88mm guns in the AT role.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 10:09 AM (aet/3)


The Germans had the same problem in 1941 when they ran into the Russian T-34. The short caliber 50mm guns on the PzKw III couldn't handle the thick Russian armor and the Germans were using 105mm howitzers in the direct-fire role (I read that in a book a few years ago that was a translation of German first-person accounts of fighting on the Eastern Front).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 10:18 AM (5Yee7)

133 Raico was a very erudite man, I have linked to his old lectures in the past - he says wonderful things while looking like a cheerful balding schlub with a Brooklyn accent - in so many way the opposite of a recent presidential candidate.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:13 AM (mkDpn)


I have come to understand that if I'm going to wear a label, it's the classic liberal. Which has nothing to do, as you state, with our current understanding of the word.

Freedom, limited government, personal accountability, and self-preservation of the state to ENSURE that individual liberty is protected.

That's it. All else is fluffery. And bound to fail, in time.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:20 AM (Pz4pT)

134 Raico was a very erudite man, I have linked to his old lectures in the past - he says wonderful things while looking like a cheerful balding schlub with a Brooklyn accent - in so many way the opposite of a recent presidential candidate.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:13 AM (mkDpn)


Dees Nutz?

Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:21 AM (L5xfm)

135 Banastre Tarleton remains a prime example of the disgraceful or uncivilized Brit in warfare in this country.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 10:16 AM (pNxlR)


Wait, wasn't Tarleton the main bad guy of the Mel Gibson movie The Patriot? The Brits went apesh* when that movie came out, so I had always thought the character was wildly exaggerated.

Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:22 AM (L5xfm)

136 Rand was very observant of communism. Her solution though was just as insane, like her.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 25, 2017 10:23 AM (J70i0)

137 I have come to understand that if I'm going to wear a label, it's the classic liberal. Which has nothing to do, as you state, with our current understanding of the word.

Freedom, limited government, personal accountability, and self-preservation of the state to ENSURE that individual liberty is protected.

That's it. All else is fluffery. And bound to fail, in time.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:20 AM (Pz4pT)

Absolutely correct; that's why I no longer refer to our current crop of Leftists as "liberals" - they are not. Interestingly, Greg Gutfield made the same argument last week during one of the episodes of The Five. (I don't watch it much, but Mrs Cop likes it).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 10:25 AM (5Yee7)

138 forgot to close the tag

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 10:25 AM (5Yee7)

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (sEDyY)

140 British Matilda's had heavy armor but only armed with 2pdrs (40mm)and top speed of only 15mph

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (Ot7+c)

141 It's a great book for laying out the basics of
individualism. After reading it a dozen times, I've started thinking of
it less as a novel and more as a thousand page philosophical essay. And
it's amazing to see, in a book published in the 1950s, villainous words
and concepts that our 'elite' politicians and self-appointed
intellectuals are using today. Sometimes I wonder if Rand had a time
machine.
Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)


Rand grew up in early Soviet Russia, and that is where all our politicians and political thinkers draw their history and inspiration.
She was ostracized because of her class, her father economically destroyed when his business was first regulated and then taken from him, and purged when she was in university
She was brilliant and insightful but at the basis, she understood the cant and the consequences.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (mkDpn)

142 I liked Gibson's The Patriot. I liked it better when it first came out...as Braveheart. Same story except Gibson didn't get drawn and quartered in The Patriot.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (kTF2Z)

143 Closed them before I could.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (sEDyY)

144 Well I best meander on off, need to get ready for work.

Written about 12,000 new words on Tanya stories. This is Weird Writing 101, got these three short stories being written in parallel and they are generating stuff to go into the other stories while also pointing the way for a follow-on story. Basically when I feel the energy or inspiration ebb on one story go cracking on another since for all three I know what generally happens.

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B071NQQMPK

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (aet/3)

145 135 Wait, wasn't Tarleton the main bad guy of the Mel Gibson movie The Patriot? The Brits went apesh* when that movie came out, so I had always thought the character was wildly exaggerated.


Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:22 AM (L5xfm)

Yes, he was wildly exaggerated in the movie. But that scene where they burned the church down with the people locked in it actually occurred. But it was colonial loyalists who did that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (mpXpK)

146 The End of Civilization - a limerick

An erstwhile street hooker named Hemphill
Found redemption in a nunnery, 'twas simple
She forsook her former friends
And thus her sinful era ends
Not with a bang, but with a wimple

Posted by: Muldoon at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (mvenn)

147 Italicans attack!

Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 25, 2017 10:28 AM (4P/s6)

148 *sniff*

Posted by: The Barrel at June 25, 2017 10:28 AM (xAvrH)

149 I liked Gibson's The Patriot. I liked it better when it first came out...as Braveheart. Same story except Gibson didn't get drawn and quartered in The Patriot.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (kTF2Z)


Nice action in both, but it is wise NOT to get one's view of history from Mel Gibson.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:29 AM (Pz4pT)

150 off, foul sock

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 10:29 AM (L5xfm)

151
Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:22 AM (L5xfm)


That character was modeled after Tarleton, but not named that, IIRC. There was so much to roll one's eyes over from a historical accuracy viewpoint in The Patriot. For me, chiefly, it was when everyone on the Colonialist side decamped to Myrtle Beach for a campout in their egalitarian refugee camp and to dance the Shag. Hell, dress them in Pink and Kelly Green and issue them golf clubs while you're at it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 10:29 AM (pNxlR)

152 Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (mkDpn)

Exactly. It was that she had lived through what communism really does as opposed to what it claims. The only "prophetic" part was that it *could* happen here as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 10:29 AM (sEDyY)

153 This F-1 race is the most bizarre I might have ever seen and isn't over yet

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 10:30 AM (Ot7+c)

154 145
But that scene where they burned the church down with the people locked in it actually occurred. But it was colonial loyalists who did that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (mpXpK)


I didn't know that. I thought that scene was exaggerated. I know that Muslims do stuff like that in modern-day Nigeria, though.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:32 AM (sdi6R)

155 151 Wait, wasn't Tarleton the main bad guy of the Mel Gibson movie The Patriot? The Brits went apesh* when that movie came out, so I had always thought the character was wildly exaggerated.


Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:22 AM (L5xfm)

I thought that was supposed to be the Gullah colony down near Savannah. That actually existed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:32 AM (mpXpK)

156 I didn't know that. I thought that scene was exaggerated. I know that Muslims do stuff like that in modern-day Nigeria, though.
Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:32 AM (sdi6R)


The deuce you say.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 10:33 AM (L5xfm)

157 Since we're over 100 posts, permit me to go OT. i bought a cheap wood plaque from Michael's that I want to stain a darker color. Are there any DIY "hacks" for staining wood, aside from buying some wood stain?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 10:33 AM (ANIFC)

158 Posted by: The Democratic Party at June 25, 2017 10:22 AM (L5xfm)

Yes, he was wildly exaggerated in the movie. But that scene where they burned the church down with the people locked in it actually occurred. But it was colonial loyalists who did that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (mpXpK)


Mel hates him some Brits. And if the truth doesn't fit the narrative, well, screw the truth.

His films should have the "based on actual events" label on them, like they do with horror movies that are based on some report where somebody saw a chair move on its own, and they turn it into a movie with a Marilyn Manson in a nun costume demon.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2017 10:34 AM (Pz4pT)

159 You can sabotage the wheels by applying fennel to them.

Just put the fennel on spokes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 10:34 AM (xAvrH)

160 ... didn't get drawn and quartered in The Patriot.

******


The New Commanding General

He returned from the front under orders
And was met by a horde of reporters
To celebrate his new position
A portrait was commissioned
So he had his picture drawn at headquarters

Posted by: Muldoon at June 25, 2017 10:35 AM (mvenn)

161 151 There was so much to roll one's eyes over from a historical accuracy viewpoint in The Patriot.
For me, chiefly, it was when everyone on the Colonialist side decamped
to Myrtle Beach for a campout in their egalitarian refugee camp and to
dance the Shag. Hell, dress them in Pink and Kelly Green and issue them
golf clubs while you're at it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 25, 2017 10:29 AM (pNxlR)

Did clear out my memory. I thought that was supposed to be the Gullah colony down near Savannah. That actually existed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:36 AM (mpXpK)

162 Are there any DIY "hacks" for staining wood, aside from buying some wood stain?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 10:33 AM (ANIFC)


In Jamaica, mon, they use brown shoe polish.

I've used it on small items/areas. Works fine.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 10:37 AM (PduNE)

163 Considering Banastre Tarleton lived out his days in England

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 10:38 AM (Ot7+c)

164 RE: Atlas Shrugged

Yeah, Ayn Rand really needed an editor who would have stood up to her and forced her to pare the book down to about half the length.

Some of the dialog is also rather stilted, but she really nails the unholy alliance of bureaucrats, rent-seeking industrialists, and the media. They all mouth pious bromides about looking out for the "little guy", as they destroy prosperity with their bungling incompetence.

Trump isn't know for being much of a reader, but it really makes me wonder whether he has picked up some of the themes from the book. He really does seem to recognize how suffocating regulations have become and is trying to reverse them. He is unabashed in his rhetoric about putting America and Americans first and making the best deals for us.

She wrote it 60 years ago so some aspects of it are rather dated, but she was absolutely spot on in predicting the rising tension between people who want their liberty to create and prosper and a self-appointed incestuous elite hell bent on dictating what they believe is good for us (but only optional for them, because they have a different set of rules for themselves).

Unfortunately, her verbosity and pedantic writing make it less accessible then 1984 and Brave New World; both of which are also essential works and amazingly prescient.

Posted by: kraki at June 25, 2017 10:38 AM (TNa9O)

165 >>Trump isn't know for being much of a reader, but it really makes me wonder whether he has picked up some of the themes from the book. He really does seem to recognize how suffocating regulations have become and is trying to reverse them. He is unabashed in his rhetoric about putting America and Americans first and making the best deals for us.

There are probably few people more aware of the burden of crushing government regulations than a commercial real estate developer in New York. I don't think he needed to read any books to understand that issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 10:41 AM (/tuJf)

166 Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, which I was recently gifted, is a compulsive stay-up-all-night great read. For extra punch, read it back-to-back with Stevenson's A Man Called Intrepid.

Posted by: grayishpanther at June 25, 2017 10:45 AM (ty9Ew)

167 163 Considering Banastre Tarleton lived out his days in England
Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 10:38 AM (Ot7+c)

As did Benedict Arnold

Posted by: Fox2! at June 25, 2017 10:45 AM (brIR5)

168 " it's just going to get worse. unless it starts hurting progressives. then we'll start seeing news stories 24/7 on the 'national crisis' caused by government agencies. they'll be using phrases like 'unelected bureaucrats' and the 'imperial presidency'.

truer words i've not heard in a fair piece, nigh on a fortnight at the least.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 10:48 AM (WTSFk)

169 There are probably few people more aware of the burden of crushing government regulations than a commercial real estate developer in New York. I don't think he needed to read any books to understand that issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 10:41 AM (/tuJf)


Right. And I think this is why he gave money (and praise) to politicians of both sides. He'd do anything if he thought it might remove obstacles so he could run his business with fewer headaches.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 10:49 AM (L5xfm)

170 I'm reading Walter Alvarez' new book "A Most Improbable Journey - a big history or our planet and ourselves".

Non fiction.

Can't put it down.

Posted by: navybrat at June 25, 2017 10:49 AM (w7KSn)

171 I don't think he needed to read any books to understand that issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 10:41 AM (/tuJf)

There's something else Trump has, as real estate developer/businessman that politicians don't have -- that monthly focus on bottom line ingrained in his brain. Politicians have a two year/four year/six year bottom line focus.

I'll never forget my monthly meetings with accountant(s). Every item on the spread sheet was torn apart. Things that worked were continued, efforts less successful discarded. Moving forward constantly, never resting. I expect no less than that from Trump.

It should be interesting to see how it all works out with so much of Washington aligned against him.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 10:49 AM (PduNE)

172 140 British Matilda's had heavy armor but only armed with 2pdrs (40mm)and top speed of only 15mph
Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 10:26 AM (Ot7+c)

Weren't the Matilda's "Infantry" tanks, intended to support the Crunchies?

Posted by: Fox2! at June 25, 2017 10:50 AM (brIR5)

173

‘Woefully incomplete’ universal health bill dead for the year in California

http://tinyurl.com/y9ktmoqt

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 10:51 AM (IqV8l)

174 Yes, he was wildly exaggerated in the movie. But
that scene where they burned the church down with the people locked in
it actually occurred. But it was colonial loyalists who did that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 10:27 AM (mpXpK)


Tarleton commanded colonial loyalists. It was the British Legion. They were involved with anti-guerrilla actions in the Carolinas.
Kings Mountain was payback for "Tarleton's Quarter"

It is important to remember that Cornwallis opened the Southern phase of the Revolution because the large number of loyalists in the Southern colonies promised to be good start for controlling a region to base the pacification the Central and Northern colonies , but he did not take into account the fact that the loyalists were already fighting a civil war of their own down there and were busy.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:51 AM (mkDpn)

175 Ayn Rand's first novel, "We The Living", is also worth a read. The protagonist is a young woman in the 1920s Soviet Union. She said many years later that it was the closest she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:52 AM (sdi6R)

176 ... but it's unlikely we'll ever see any crisis for the left from the expanded state. as i've noted before, obama's fundamental transformation is the politicization of the state as well as its expansion.

one people

one state

one party

one leader.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 10:54 AM (WTSFk)

177
Church burnings occurred. There's a whole book about it in SC. https://www.createspace.com/4986802

This is from Wiki on one of them. "The St. Philip's Church Ruins are the remains of a colonial Anglican church building in Brunswick Town, North Carolina, United States.[2] The church is located beside the Cape Fear River in the Brunswick Town Historic District, along with Fort Anderson, Russelborough and the nearby Orton Plantation. Construction of St. Philip's Church lasted 14 years, but took only one day to be destroyed when the British Army burned Brunswick Town."

Tarleton massacred people.

"There are three primary accounts of the Waxhaws massacre from the patriot side and two primary accounts from the British. All three of the patriot accounts say the Legion did not honor requests to surrender but, instead, continued hacking away at the rebel force. The result being about 113 dead patriots and another 50 too wounded to move. Later pension accounts from survivors indicate a number and type of wounds consistent with the description from the rebels. One more Patriot account worthy of mention comes from John Marshall's history. He indicates having spoken with a number of surviving officers including Buford.

The British accounts come from Banastre Tarleton. First was his official report of the victory where there was no mention of any massacre but he proudly touted the casualty reports which were incredibly one-sided. Seems there were only about 5 British dead and another dozen wounded. The second British account also comes from Ban Tarleton. Found in his history of the campaigns, the second account doesn't deny the massacre but, instead, makes a single statement acknowledging the event."

Here's an account of both church burning and (small) massacre, up north. http://www.fairfieldct.org/content/10724/12146/12165.aspx

I have never heard of Continental troops doing that. What evidence do you have?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:56 AM (ORmJ3)

178 Trump isn't know for being much of a reader

MSM says that, but people closer to him say he's always reading.

Who to believe? I generally don't trust people who have admitted to running a smear campaign against him.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:57 AM (mkDpn)

179 169
And I think this is why he gave money (and praise) to politicians of both sides. He'd do anything if he thought it might remove obstacles so he could run his business with fewer headaches.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 10:49 AM (L5xfm)


That's what I think. He knows all about "pay to play" and can probably call out corrupt politicians by name. They're terrified of him.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:57 AM (sdi6R)

180 Since we're over 100 posts, permit me to go OT. i bought a cheap wood plaque from Michael's that I want to stain a darker color. Are there any DIY "hacks" for staining wood, aside from buying some wood stain?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2017 10:33 AM (ANIFC)


Is it a raw wood plaque?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 25, 2017 10:58 AM (aMlLZ)

181

WASHINGTON – A coalition of faith leaders and immigrant-rights activists are advocating for the Trump administration to “guarantee the rights of all individuals” in the Northern Triangle of nations to seek asylum and enter the U.S. as refugees.

Northern Triangle countries include Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.

http://tinyurl.com/y75w5z6m

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 10:59 AM (IqV8l)

182 chuck todd trying to jump bad with WI (R) Senator Johnson on o-care.

fail

Posted by: concrete girl at June 25, 2017 11:00 AM (EqvVS)

183 Ayn Rand's first novel, "We The Living", is also worth a read. The protagonist is a young woman in the 1920s Soviet Union. She said many years later that it was the closest she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:52 AM (sdi6R)


If so, then I think Dagny Taggart is the woman she'd most like to be. i.e., brilliant, breathtakingly beautiful (Ayn was actually quite the bowser), and, of course, hotly pursued by all of the alpha males.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:00 AM (L5xfm)

184 Yes Matilda (II) were infantry support tanks in the original Btitish tactics theory

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 11:01 AM (Ot7+c)

185 'Woefully incomplete' universal health bill dead for the year in California

http://tinyurl.com/y9ktmoqt

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


These people crack me up.

Before the Senate vote, Lara and Atkins acknowledged that the bill lacked critical language describing how the state would come up with the money.

I wish I could go through life, just buying sh*t and never having to worry about how to pay for it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 11:01 AM (xAvrH)

186 Looks like Norway shopped next door in Sweden to furnish their library.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:02 AM (IDPbH)

187 Thanks for the kind words about The Hidden Truth. I deeply appreciate the support and enthusiasm I've had from the Moron Horde - it's a big part of what encouraged me to write the sequel, A Rambling Wreck.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 25, 2017 11:02 AM (NhF/Q)

188 That's what I think. He knows all about "pay to play" and can probably call out corrupt politicians by name. They're terrified of him.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 10:57 AM (sdi6R)


And he said as much during the campaign: "Yeah, I know this game. That's because I used to play it myself."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:02 AM (L5xfm)

189 I wish I could go through life, just buying sh*t and never having to worry about how to pay for it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 11:01 AM (xAvrH)


Hold our beer.

Posted by: some Morons' ex-wives at June 25, 2017 11:04 AM (L5xfm)

190 Finally, finally finished all 630-some pages of microscopic type in Windswept House by Malachi Martin. I consider myself jaded, but felt like a babe in the woods wrt the seedy dealings going on by higher-ups at the Vatican. This one also pulled the curtain back on Pope John Paul II -- a geopolitical genius but an awful disciplinarian who didn't think two moves ahead in his own organization.

I also learned that the Pope isn't the end-all and be-all in the hierarchy. Somewhere along the line the bishops deluded themselves that their feelz were right up there with Rome's whether it contradicted doctrine or not.

After that, I mowed through Almost Missed You by Jessica Strawser. This is her first effort and a great one at that. We begin with a happy little family on vaycay at the beach. Loving dad buys mom an umbrella drink and encourages her to enjoy her afternoon sunning and reading whilst he takes their toddler to the hotel for the afternoon nap.

Mom finally returns to the room to find no trace of husband or son or any of their belongings, just hers.

Quite the page turner. Highly recommended.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at June 25, 2017 11:04 AM (joFoi)

191 Next up in California, a bill to guarantee every resident, legal or not, a miniature giraffe. They just have a few details to work out first.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 11:04 AM (kTF2Z)

192 now he's gushing over bernie

of course

Posted by: concrete girl at June 25, 2017 11:04 AM (EqvVS)

193 "Thanks for the kind words about The Hidden Truth."

It's on my Wishlist.

Do you have any advice for indie publishing on Amazon? I'm looking at doing that in the next few months.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:06 AM (ORmJ3)

194 Absolutely correct; that's why I no longer refer to our current crop of Leftists as "liberals" - they are not. Interestingly, Greg Gutfield made the same argument last week during one of the episodes of The Five. (I don't watch it much, but Mrs Cop likes it).
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 25, 2017 10:25 AM (5Yee7)

My wife has watched it (the 5) since the beginning. She says the other 4 make up for juan williams. I find that his total and complete separation from reality makes the other 4 unwatchable.

I just wish they could find a way to bring back the Gutfeld version of Red Eye.

Posted by: Just John at June 25, 2017 11:07 AM (Zhmao)

195 177 I have never heard of Continental troops doing that. What evidence do you have?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 10:56 AM (ORmJ3)

If you are referring to what I said about the scene in the movie I did not say it was Continental troops. I said it was colonial loyalists. The church they burned with people in it was in SC. I came across that in a book several years ago.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:08 AM (mpXpK)

196 Ayn Rand's ANTHEM shows what she could do if she kept it pithy.

That book, a novella really, leaves you wanting MORE.

Plus, it directly inspired Rush's 2112, so there's that too.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 11:09 AM (ul9CR)

197 "he'll do anything if he thought it would remove obstacles..."

that new york experience, where everyone is for the same goal of business and success, whether after bruising fight or greased facilitation you dust yourself off and everyone's on the same side - that doesn't work in washington. i think trump has been genuinely surprised that dems aren't ameliorative, whether on healthcare or after firing comey.

there's a saying that goes something like this:

in new york they'll beat you up. in washington they'll kill you.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 11:09 AM (WTSFk)

198 Muse,

Did you read the Giles Milton book? I plugged it here a month or so ago. I thought it the perfect book for Moron sensibilities. Really amazing stories about which I had previous knowledge. Several parts had me sitting on the edge of my seat. Truth sometimes being a lot more suspenseful than fiction. Anyway, let me sing it's praises again.

Posted by: ITuna at June 25, 2017 11:09 AM (jm1YL)

199


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2017 10:59 AM (IqV8l)

They go from being indirectly responsible for all death and harm perpetrated by MS-13 to directly responsible. May they be the ones who incur the certain future crimes of these animals instead of the innocent.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:10 AM (IDPbH)

200 once again, sock off

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:11 AM (L5xfm)

201 "If you are referring to what I said about the scene in the movie I did not say it was Continental troops. I said it was colonial loyalists."

Ack, you're right. I misread. I might have actually cited the same book you read.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:11 AM (ORmJ3)

202 I will have to read the book about Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. That's the kind of stuff I find fascinating. When we were in London recently, my very favorite thing we did was tour through Churchill's War Rooms. It was an incredible site. I highly recommend it for anyone who gets the chance to go there.
Posted by: bluebell ~ don't resist me, much! at June 25, 2017 09:32 AM (sBOL1)

The commies in the UK have been as successful as their friends across the pond in erasing great people from history. Sir Winston is virtually unknown and it has only been since WWII that his memory and accomplishments have been eradicated amongst the populace.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at June 25, 2017 11:12 AM (joFoi)

203 Did you read the Giles Milton book? I plugged it here a month or so ago. I thought it the perfect book for Moron sensibilities. Really amazing stories about which I had previous knowledge. Several parts had me sitting on the edge of my seat. Truth sometimes being a lot more suspenseful than fiction.

Anyway, let me sing it's praises again.
Posted by: ITuna at June 25, 2017 11:09 AM (jm1YL)


My apologies, I have no memory of this. Can you refresh my memory?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:13 AM (L5xfm)

204 155- The Gullahs still exist. Hearing folks reference kid show ' Gullah Gullah Island' makes 'em angry but @ least it's in popular culture.

Posted by: Rice & Indigo at June 25, 2017 11:13 AM (bc2Lc)

205 I'm also working on Jamaica Inn, by Daphne du Maurier. I thought it was going to be a nice little Victorian novel, and it's turning out more like a gothic horror story about smugglers in nineteenth century Cornwall. Interesting, but not what I expected.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (26lkV)


Hitchcock made a movie of "Jamaica Inn" in 1939 right before he left for Hollywood.

Not one of his best, but there are interesting parts.

Apparently, Hitchcock and that big slice o'ham, Charles Laughton were at loggerheads over what the film would be and at that time Laughton had the whip hand.

Anyway, they restored it a couple of years ago for the 75th Anniversary of the film and that version is available on Amazon for streaming if you wish.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 11:13 AM (9q7Dl)

206 I've always been awed by Cortes and his tiny group of adventurers taking out the Aztecs. I have 2 editions of Bernal Diaz's "Conquest of New Spain", 1 a copy of an old Brit edition, hard to read because of the old s that looks kind of like an f, another a full translation. I found a copy this week at a library sale for 50 cents of "The Bernal Diaz Chronicals" which is a modernized and edited for smoothness. What a great read, one of the best soldier's stories ever written.

Couple this with an Osprey book "Aztecs and Conquistadores" , great paintings and artifacts. Puts paid to the popular notion of Spanish armor and weapons of the time, especially the helmet, morion, in popular culture but was 40 years later, mostly in Italy. Most of the Conquistadores didn't have armor, it was too expensive, but they had titanium balls.

The Aztec armies and "uniforms " were quite interesting and the Osprey book shows them well.

Posted by: JHW at June 25, 2017 11:13 AM (kn0BL)

207 Plus, it directly inspired Rush's 2112, so there's that too.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 25, 2017 11:09 AM (ul9CR)


Great frigging album.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 25, 2017 11:14 AM (aMlLZ)

208 Must stop reading the Sunday book thread. Went to Abebooks to purchase the Simon Schama book and ended up buying 6 others as well.

Posted by: Rana at June 25, 2017 11:14 AM (bjWhy)

209 193 Apostate - There's some helpful self-publishing information here: https://madgeniusclub.com/navigating-from-writing-to-publication/ I've been traditionally published as well as going indie. I prefer indie, despite the frustrations of having to be responsible for cover design, editing, and proofing.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 25, 2017 11:16 AM (NhF/Q)

210 201 Ack, you're right. I misread. I might have actually cited the same book you read.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:11 AM (ORmJ3)

Also the Waxaws Massacre was supposedly also done by colonial loyalists but they were being commanded by Tarlton. However, he did not order the massacre. At the time it occurred he was trapped under his horse which had been shot out from under him. He got the blame for it though.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:17 AM (mpXpK)

211 ... i think the business experience in new york has created a false sense of expectations for trump. he ends up naive. ivanka said recently that she was really surprised by the viciousness in washington.

hopefully trump will emerge from this first year more aware of the task and the enemy.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 11:19 AM (WTSFk)

212 Looks like Norway shopped next door in Sweden to furnish their library.

Posted by: Jack Sock


That thing in the center: I thought it was a fountain, but there are actually computer workstations there. There's a woman on the left and two swarthy men on the right.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 25, 2017 11:20 AM (xAvrH)

213 209 Hans - Thanks, I've bookmarked it. I actually liked having control over my cover. I personally hunted down perfect art for *cheap* and got it incorporated into a professional looking cover for *free.* Better than spending money (or having a publisher spend money, and counting it against the book) and having the result be sub-par.

Doing my own editing is somewhat slow going because enough time needs to pass between edits to have 'fresh eyes.' But I'm going down the Magnum Opus path, with only a few books, so it's less of a hindrance, I think.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:23 AM (ORmJ3)

214 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:17 AM (mpXpK)

I assume many of the Loyalist / Tory massacre stories involve their Indian allies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:23 AM (IDPbH)

215 Love Laurence Shames Key West Series. Also try JA Konrath Jack Daniels series. PS Shames has an older book "Money Talks" is a pretty good story of a Trump to rags tale.

Posted by: Rhennigantx at June 25, 2017 11:25 AM (bmkS9)

216 Also the Waxaws Massacre was supposedly also done by colonial loyalists but they were being commanded by Tarlton.

Waxon. Waxhawf.

Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at June 25, 2017 11:27 AM (xAvrH)

217 214 I assume many of the Loyalist / Tory massacre stories involve their Indian allies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:23 AM (IDPbH)

I'm sure that occurred in the western parts of the colonies, but the ones we are talking about here were in the coastal areas. Waxhaw is in Southern, NC near the border about the middle of the State. In fact, it is not too far from where I currently live.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:28 AM (mpXpK)

218 216 Waxon. Waxhawf.

Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at June 25, 2017 11:27 AM (xAvrH)

LOL

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:29 AM (mpXpK)

219 What's with the fennel hate? I adore the taste of fennel. Cilantro..not so much. Tastes like soap to me.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:29 AM (jm1YL)

220 "Tastes like soap to me."

I read that that's genetic. Interesting trivium.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:31 AM (ORmJ3)

221 Cilantro..not so much. Tastes like soap to me.
Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:29 AM (jm1YL)


Ha! It does for me, too. Did you see my anti-cilantro thread a few months ago?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:31 AM (L5xfm)

222 I read that that's genetic. Interesting trivium.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:31 AM (ORmJ3)


Yeah, I got those genes. I always have to tell them to hold the cilantro when we eat out at a Mexican or Thai restaurant.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:32 AM (L5xfm)

223 I remember reading The Art of the Deal back in the 80's in the heyday of Trump's ascendancy.

He discussed his issues with the New York cement contractors, who he described as being a "very rough bunch" or something along those lines. IIRC the names associated with that crew (Trump did not mention their names) were the ilk of "Fat Tony" Salerno and Tony "Ducks" Corallo.

After having to deal with those type guys on his way up, it's unsurprisinf that he has a certain (contempt?) for the antics of the likes of pols and bottom feeders like Jeb!, Hilary, Schumer, Fauxcahontas, etc.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:34 AM (U3LtS)

224 219 What's with the fennel hate? I adore the taste of fennel.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:29 AM (jm1YL)


The secret ingredient in my mother's spaghetti sauce was fennel.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:34 AM (L5xfm)

225 After having to deal with those type guys on his way up, it's unsurprising that he has a certain (contempt?) for the antics of the likes of pols and bottom feeders like Jeb!, Hilary, Schumer, Fauxcahontas, etc.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:34 AM (U3LtS)


Either that, or he sees them as kindred spirits to the mafia goons.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:35 AM (L5xfm)

226 213 Apostate - Good Alpha and Beta readers are a blessing, particularly if they're the meticulous type who spot typos or even better, can tell you if the emotional or character arcs are off.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 25, 2017 11:37 AM (NhF/Q)

227 Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:34 AM (U3LtS)

Don't think he was known as Donny 'Two Scoops' Trump at that time.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:38 AM (IDPbH)

228 "He discussed his issues with the New York cement contractors, who he described as being a "very rough bunch" or something along those lines. IIRC the names associated with that crew (Trump did not mention their names) were the ilk of "Fat Tony" Salerno and Tony "Ducks" Corallo. "

Amazing that the MSM doesn't realize that he knows how to deal with dangerous people. Let's hope it never dawns on them. Being a developer in NYC has to be an education in itself.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:39 AM (jm1YL)

229 I'm going to read that Giles Morton book, but be advised that there is another book about the same subject with nearly the EXACT same title by Damien Lewis that came out last year.
I've seen books about the same subject come out at the same time, but never two with nearly identical titles...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 11:40 AM (7uYFy)

230 Can't give you the recipe though. I'd have to kill you all and then myself. It's a German thing, you wouldn't understand.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 10:18 AM (/tuJf)
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You might be surprised.

Welcome back. How was your race week?

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 11:40 AM (sBOL1)

231 #203 Damn I'm clueless.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:41 AM (L5xfm)

232 Hitchcock made a movie of "Jamaica Inn" in 1939 right before he left for Hollywood.



Not one of his best, but there are interesting parts.



Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 11:13 AM (9q7Dl)
I'll have to check it out. I'm about halfway through the book, and I'm already having fun spotting the cliches and wondering if maybe, just maybe, they won't turn out to be cliches after all.

Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 11:41 AM (26lkV)

233 226 Hans - "Good Alpha and Beta readers are a blessing"

Oh goodness, yes. I have cultivated a crop of them. My wife, a telecommunications engineer, a physicist, a mathematician, an electrical engineer, and a cyber security specialist. I intend to print a small run of hardbacks to sign and distribute to the earliest and most helpful of these as a 'thank you.'

My wife especially has been helpful. She serves as a good editor (I have an irritating habit of accidentally reusing words and phrases near each other, sometimes as copy/paste artifacts, and she's expert at spotting them) and judge of my writing. When my tragic, death scene chapter made her cry, I knew I'd hit a home run.

More than anything else, I think that chapter will sell this book. People remember art that moves them.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:42 AM (ORmJ3)

234 "Don't think he was known as Donny 'Two Scoops' Trump at that time."

Can't you picture Donny "Two Scoops" as a member of Tony Sopranos crew? LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:42 AM (jm1YL)

235 Hot damn, Giles Morton has some other interesting books, too. Perhaps I should talk about them next week/

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:42 AM (L5xfm)

236 Need the horde's opinion. I've taped all episodes of American Gods. Is it any good?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 11:43 AM (kTF2Z)

237 Oregon Muse, my library has ten Morton books, I found out while looking for the Churchill book. They do look interesting, don't they?

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 11:43 AM (sBOL1)

238 "That thing in the center: I thought it was a fountain, but there are actually computer workstations there. There's a woman on the left and two swarthy men on the right."

I think the shape of the center mirrors that of a Viking ship.


Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:45 AM (jm1YL)

239 "Either that, or he sees them as kindred spirits to the mafia goons."

Heh. After the context of having to ponder the possibility that he might end up in the foundation of Trump Tower if things weren't worked out to everyone's satisfaction, he has to chuckle nowadays when he swats away some "hard hitting" liberal shill with the back of his hand.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:45 AM (U3LtS)

240 Posted by: right wing yankee at June 25, 2017 11:41 AM (26lkV)

And there's always the question of whether they were cliches when written or became such afterwards.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (sEDyY)

241
G-Man by Stephen Hunter.

Well written and historically accurate fiction.

I didn't know much about Baby Face Nelson, but he was an interesting character; non-drinker, married with two children.

John Dillinger may have been killed by Charles Winstead, not Melvin Purvis.

Posted by: Frankly at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (aez4K)

242 They do look interesting, don't they?

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 11:43 AM (sBOL1)


That they do.

By the way, not to sound nitpicky and all, but my nic is actually OregonMuse, not Oregon Muse.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (L5xfm)

243 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 25, 2017 11:28 AM (mpXpK)

I was thinking of the Cherry Valley massacre. IIRC that was in NY.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (IDPbH)

244 "I think the shape of the center mirrors that of a Viking ship."

Wow, you're right. Too bad we can't see the rest of the room.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:47 AM (ORmJ3)

245 "Heh. After the context of having to ponder the possibility that he might end up in the foundation of Trump Tower if things weren't worked out to everyone's satisfaction, he has to chuckle nowadays when he swats away some "hard hitting" liberal shill with the back of his hand."

The Trump Presidential Library will be a wonder to behold I'm sure. What goodies it will contain.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:47 AM (jm1YL)

246 Hot damn, Giles Morton has some other interesting books, too. Perhaps I should talk about them next week/
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:42 AM (L5xfm)

I've been a fan since Nathaniel's Nutmeg, almost 20 years ago...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 11:47 AM (7uYFy)

247 244 "I think the shape of the center mirrors that of a Viking ship."

"Wow, you're right. Too bad we can't see the rest of the room."

Here's another pic.

http://prettybooks.tumblr.com/post/2531308867

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:48 AM (ORmJ3)

248 Heh. After the context of having to ponder the possibility that he might end up in the foundation of Trump Tower if things weren't worked out to everyone's satisfaction, he has to chuckle nowadays when he swats away some "hard hitting" liberal shill with the back of his hand.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:45 AM (U3LtS)


Yes Trump was lucky, and most likely skillful. Jimmy Hoffa however, was never able to cement that sort of relationship with those who surrounded him.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 11:48 AM (PduNE)

249 Spencer was the man.

Posted by: Cosda at June 25, 2017 09:26 AM (7nuQi)



He was also for hire

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2017 11:48 AM (auHtY)

250 By the way, not to sound nitpicky and all, but my nic is actually OregonMuse, not Oregon Muse.

---------------

He's so poor he can't even afford the space in his nic!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

251 I didn't know much about Baby Face Nelson, but he was an interesting character; non-drinker, married with two children.

Posted by: Frankly at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (aez4K)


I like the totes accurate portrayal of him in O Brother, Where Art Thou where he shot up a bunch of cows.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:49 AM (L5xfm)

252 " Donnie was putting away ice cream two scoops at a time!"---Moe Greene

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 11:49 AM (7uYFy)

253 trump's ny experience explains both his aggression and naiveté. after he beats up his competitor or buys off ("facilitates") the bureaucracy he expects everyone to get along, that everyone has the same goal, doing business.

that's not d.c.

he actually thought the dems would support him for firing comey! in the midst of "investigations" to destroy him. that is naiveté.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 25, 2017 11:49 AM (WTSFk)

254 "Yes Trump was lucky, and most likely skillful. Jimmy Hoffa however, was never able to cement that sort of relationship with those who surrounded him"

I love a good pun. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:50 AM (jm1YL)

255 Viking ships had computer workstations? They were more advanced than I thought.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2017 11:50 AM (sdi6R)

256 Yes Trump was lucky, and most likely skillful. Jimmy Hoffa however, was never able to cement that sort of relationship with those who surrounded him.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 25, 2017 11:48 AM (PduNE)

I like how you used "Jimmy Hoffa" and "cement" in the same sentence.

Posted by: The Old Giants Stadium at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (7uYFy)

257 By the way, not to sound nitpicky and all, but my nic is actually OregonMuse, not Oregon Muse.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:46 AM (L5xfm)
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Imma just going back to calling you OMuse then.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (1O9i3)

258 NOOD

Posted by: weew at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (6EH85)

259 I understood that Burgoyne brought Iroquois auxiliaries with him down from Quebec and there were a number of these incidents.

(Wyoming is in NY? WTF!)

I don't know if there were any Southern equivalents, since the Indians down there didn't have the same background with allying with anyone. IIRC Georgia would have rather had the British troops in to help them fight the Creeks than fight a revolution, if they'd had their druthers.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 11:52 AM (mkDpn)

260 Imma just going back to calling you OMuse then.
Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 25, 2017 11:51 AM (1O9i3)


Good enough.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at June 25, 2017 11:53 AM (L5xfm)

261 A few years back, when The Apprentice and The Sopranos were both going strong, I read an article where people were polled and queried about who would be a better boss - Donald Trump, or Tony Soprano.

Love to find a copy of that now. People seemed to find many parallels like valuing and rewarding loyalty; ruthlessness and amorality in imposing their will; generally watching over and taking care of their people but making sure above all else, that they themselves never got the short end, etc.

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2017 11:53 AM (U3LtS)

262 178 Trump isn't know for being much of a reader

MSM says that, but people closer to him say he's always reading.

Who to believe? I generally don't trust people who have admitted to running a smear campaign against him.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 25, 2017 10:57 AM (mkDpn

The MFM had a hard time acknowledging the fact GWB read more books and better books than their beloved, the smartest man ever. The deepest the SCOAMF ever got was Sports Illustrated.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 25, 2017 11:54 AM (nBr1j)

263 This is a bit random, but since I have it with me I should plug it.

For anyone who is interested in understanding the Old Testament more thoroughly than most people manage, I recommend the Jewish Study Bible. It has explanations of the documentary hypothesis and how to understand ancient Semitic writings and it is full of explanatory footnotes with cross references, situational or cultural explanations, and bits of history and archaeology where relevant. It's quite useful.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 11:55 AM (ORmJ3)

264 "he actually thought the dems would support him for firing comey! in the midst of "investigations" to destroy him. that is naivete."

Rush has discussed this aspect of his personality on many occasions. I believe this first year in office is his learning year. He seems like a very quick study so I'm not worried.

Posted by: Tuna at June 25, 2017 11:56 AM (jm1YL)

265 The MFM had a hard time acknowledging the fact GWB read more books and better books than their beloved, the smartest man ever. The deepest the SCOAMF ever got was Sports Illustrated.
Posted by: Northernlurker at June 25, 2017 11:54 AM (nBr1j)
Newt Gingrich is a voracious reader too. Does anyone think that Nancy Pelosi is a reader?
That said, sometimes reading is over-rated as a marker of real world intelligence. A lot depends on WHAT you read, and what you learn from it...
I believe Trump has a super high IQ, but I don't think he reads much in the way of books. "Too time consuming", he'd probably say..

Posted by: The Old Giants Stadium at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (7uYFy)

266 "Viking ships had computer workstations? They were more advanced than I thought."

Damn straight.

Posted by: Eric the Red at June 25, 2017 12:01 PM (jm1YL)

267 >>I wish I could go through life, just buying sh*t and never having to worry about how to pay for it.



Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Are you my ex-wife?

Posted by: Aviator at June 25, 2017 12:02 PM (/Nite)

268 Sometimes it feels like I am the only one in the entire world that hates murals.

They are shit excuses for fucking up a design.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2017 12:02 PM (udajc)

269 And Viking ships rarely ran into eachother as they had strict command controls and lookouts 24/7 while at sea.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2017 12:03 PM (Ot7+c)

270 That said, sometimes reading is over-rated as a marker of real world intelligence. A lot depends on WHAT you read, and what you learn from it...
I believe Trump has a super high IQ, but I don't think he reads much in the way of books. "Too time consuming", he'd probably say..
Posted by: The Old Giants Stadium at June 25, 2017 12:00 PM (7uYF

Fair enough. I do think it at least can be a sign of curiosity. I happen to believe speaking ability is grossly overrated as a sign of intelligence.
Honestly, I love speaking to groups of people and I'm pretty good at it; but I don't particularly see as indication of intellect. I see it as more of a gift or talent, not directly related to intelligence.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 25, 2017 12:08 PM (nBr1j)

271 Apostate: do you have a publisher or editor's name for t HD email Jewish Study Bible? There are several variations on Amazon.

Posted by: PabloD at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (F/eTt)

272 "I see it as more of a gift or talent, not directly related to intelligence."

Indeed. As any RPG nerd knows, Charisma != Intelligence.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (ORmJ3)

273 Fair enough. I do think it at least can be a sign of curiosity. I happen to believe speaking ability is grossly overrated as a sign of intelligence.
Honestly, I love speaking to groups of people and I'm pretty good at it; but I don't particularly see as indication of intellect. I see it as more of a gift or talent, not directly related to intelligence.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 25, 2017 12:08 PM (nBr1j)

Oh I agree with you generally, but I'm just sick to death of liberals making a fetish of reading for reading's sake when most of them are dolts.
There is no way Obama was much of a reader. First, he was too lazy and undisciplined. Second, he already knew everything anyway so there was nothing to learn from reading...
He was a "better author than most authors he read" is how ValJar might put it....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2017 12:13 PM (7uYFy)

274 Read Open Season (Joe Pickett #1) by C J Box, first novel about a game warden in Montana who runs afoul of criminals, and his family is on the endangered species list. Liked Joe and the other characters, has trouble with bureaucratic superiors a la Bosch. Very good story, look forward to more of the series.

Listened to A Walk Among The Tombstones (Matthew Scudder #10). Scudder meets a drug supplier at an AA meeting who asks for his help tracking down people who abducted his brother's wife, took the ransom money and returned her in pieces. While looking into that case they snatch another young woman for ransom, and the clock ticks for Scudder to find them. Another terrific Scudder book.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 25, 2017 12:14 PM (a5eBy)

275 "Apostate: do you have a publisher or editor's name for t HD email Jewish Study Bible? "

The one I have says: The Jewish Study Bible, Tanakh Translation, Featuring The Jewish Publication Society; Oxford University Press, 2004. Retail mark of $45.

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:14 PM (ORmJ3)

276 The Hidden Truth sounds really intriguing. The only thing stopping me from buying it this instant is the word " sequel."

Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?

I am so done with being "Wheel of Time"'d to death.

Posted by: Gem at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (uaHyk)

277 272 "I see it as more of a gift or talent, not directly related to intelligence."

Indeed. As any RPG nerd knows, Charisma != Intelligence.
Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:12 PM (ORmJ3)

There's lots of highly intelligent people who can't communicate worth s**t. And knowing your basic, four-letter anglo saxon words goes a long way toward effective communication. (As opposed to a head stuff full of multi-syllabic words.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (nBr1j)

278 Thanks, Apostate! The Horde is ever-helpful.

Posted by: PabloD at June 25, 2017 12:18 PM (F/eTt)

279 "Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?"

That's what I'm doing. Three, and that's it.

"Thanks, Apostate! The Horde is ever-helpful."

I live to serve.

Aside, how weird is it that someone named Apostate is giving religious study advice?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:21 PM (ORmJ3)

280 I finished Kurt Schlicter's "Indian Country" and William Manchester's "American Caesar," his magisterial biography of Douglas MacArthur. Currently reading "Waging Insurgent Warfare," kind of a refresher of a previous job but from the other side.

Posted by: Butch at June 25, 2017 12:26 PM (hXu8T)

281 Two comments on Churchill's ungentlemanly warfare:

Anthony Cave Brown makes a strong argument in his book Bodyguard of Lies that a Brit agent in France was fed inaccurate information as to Overlord then betrayed so that the Nazis could torture it out of him.

While Das Reich was being delayed on their road march, they took time to massacre the 642 residence of the French village of Oradour-Sur-Glane on June 10, 1944. Das Reich had transferred from the eastern front a few months earlier where such an incident would barely rate a footnote but it was unusual in the west. There is some mystery as to the reason this village was consigned to oblivion, the two most prominent are reprisal for the kidnapping of an SS officer by the maquis and reprisal for the theft of the informal officers' retirement fund of valuables looted on the eastern front, but one wonders if the rage engendered by the delaying tactics contributed.

No real point here other than war is hell.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 25, 2017 12:32 PM (Nwg0u)

282 Need the horde's opinion. I've taped all episodes of American Gods. Is it any good?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2017 11:43 AM (kTF2Z)


Interesting set up bu-u-u-u-ut then a whole lot of nothing happens.

I'm guessing the book would've been much better served as a one season and done dealio.

Graphic, overly long, gay sex scene opens episode 3 or 4, so get ready to the FF button unless you're big on man on man action that has literally near zero to do with the overarching story.

Lots of wasted time usually in the opening segments.

If you're a devout Christian and bothered by such things, they portray Jesus as the wimpy dufus of gods in the finale. So, boring Hollywood nonsense. Wonder if they'll show Allah?(Spoiler: Nope. Too cowardly.)

Ian McShane steals the show as Odin and frankly AG is a borefest almost every time he's not on screen. Not a lot of great acting besides him.

Great idea. Poor execution.

I haven't read the book, so I can't speak to the quality of the translation of written page to small screen.

But, the story they've told so far doesn't justify number of episodes, nor a new season.

Feel free to disagree.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 12:36 PM (9q7Dl)

283 "a Brit agent in France was fed inaccurate information as to Overlord then betrayed so that the Nazis could torture it out of him."

That's some hard-core counterintelligence. It'd have to be a hell of a good case to convince me of its truth, though. This drifts into conspiracy theory land. Transmitting strategic information to a local agent in the presence of the enemy in the first place is difficult and foolish. Were I the Germans, I wouldn't believe it at all.

If we had an agent in place in Iraq in 2002, would the DIA give him information on the impending invasion outside of a disinformation op?

Posted by: Apostate at June 25, 2017 12:38 PM (ORmJ3)

284 "Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and
write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?"

I recall Spider Robinson many years back sharply critiquing this developing trend. He likened it to the Marx Brothers in _A Day At The Races_.

One of the brothers is a tout who is selling purported guides to the fixed races, under cover of operating an Italian ice cream stand. Getta you tuttsi-fruitsi ice-a cream-a!

One of the race bettors is convinced to buy the guide from him. Then learns that the guide is useless unless he also buys a second book that decodes the first. But then there's a third book to unlock the second, for which he must stump up.

By the time this is all over, the races have wrapped up for the day, and the poor cleaned-out bettor is staggering under the weight of a stack of racing guides.

Robinson said he kept realizing, too late, that he'd been hooked into open story arcs that an author intended to have continue over some arbitrary number of future books, perhaps never concluding clearly, and then Robinson would shout "Getta you tuttsi-fruttsi science-a fiction-a!" and throw the thing across the room.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2017 12:42 PM (ujwCG)

285 Looks like I'm arriving in the nick of time. You
like self-driving cars and container ships? Get ready for self-driving
government!

Posted by: AI at June 25, 2017 10:04 AM (sdi6R)

Hmmm. We could send out fancy shmancy invites to deep state bureaucrats to a faux event, guest speaker Barack Hussein Obama. Pick them up with self driving cars which will drive them into containers where they will be off loaded and secured by bots. When the containers are full they will be loaded onto ships and sent to sea.And then ...well, I don't know. Something. This is as far as I have gotten. Hopefully there will be more details (like what to do with the cargo) before Campaign #2 The Cleansing of Congress begins.


Posted by: gracepc at June 25, 2017 12:44 PM (OU4q6)

286 >>Welcome back. How was your race week?


Fantastic. Racing was up and down but the week was a blast from start to finish. Unfortunately, my 29 year old body takes longer to recover than when I was 21.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)

287 Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?

I am so done with being "Wheel of Time"'d to death.
Posted by: Gem at June 25, 2017 12:17 PM (uaHyk)


Yes!

To toot my own horn, especially as endless series are a bugaboo of mine...

In "Wearing the Cat", all ideas and plot lines are indeed paid off into a satisfying and surprising conclusion.

And that is the end of that story.

The current novel I'm writing contains none of those characters.

Check out the samples on Amazon to see if WTC is your kind of thing.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2017 12:46 PM (9q7Dl)

288 I'm currently reading Commerce of the Prairies, one of those old books I've long wanted to look over but didn't get around to. Its a non-dry examination of the Santa Fe trail, its history and features, the people that travel it, etc. Written in the mid 1800s, its a great "opening the west" reference book full of stories of events.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2017 12:51 PM (39g3+)

289 Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?

All three of my books are this sort yes. I understand the attraction to series, and why people write them. Every one of my books stands alone, but comments, feedback, and even reviews suggest they want more stories about that character in that setting.

But I like the idea of a story that has a beginning and end in a book, rather than an endless, open-ended long story.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)

290 If we spend a lot of AOSHQ but use an ad blocker, we are in effect hurting Ace's income.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 25, 2017 09:51 AM (nvMvs)

Use the ad-blocker, but hit the tip jar now and then. Problem solved.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (XUcIQ)

291 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)

That's one of the things I like about short stories. Any suggestions for SS authors or collections. Contemporary ones moreorless as I have read most of the better known.

Starting up Siege of Mecca and spotting it with a Michael Connelly book, forgot the title for the moment.

TY to whoever recommended Longmire on Netflix. Enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I like it when that happens.

Posted by: gracepc at June 25, 2017 01:05 PM (OU4q6)

292 It's just a symptom of the decline but if you Google God Save The Queen lyrics you get the Sex Pistols song lyrics in Google boldface, not the actual anthem of Great Britain.

Here's the second stanza of the original unabridged version.

O Lord our God arise
Scatter her (Queen's) enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all

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The GOP should adapt this for their battle hymn.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 25, 2017 01:07 PM (Nwg0u)

293 "a Brit agent in France was fed inaccurate information as to Overlord then betrayed so that the Nazis could torture it out of him."

The British, up until recently, were always rationally ruthless.

The diversity of the bombing victims is a source of pride, while they studiously ignore the non-diversity of the bombers.

Churchill weeps.

Apologies for going OT.

Posted by: Butch at June 25, 2017 01:20 PM (hXu8T)

294 Doesn't anyone, anywhere, write entire books where all the plots and Ideas are paid off into a satisfying conclusion, and then go on and write a different book with new characters and ideas? Ever?

-
I recently read an Ian Rutledge mystery, Legacy of the Dead, which ends with Rutledge impaled on the horns of a dilemma. He can either keep his promise to the widow of a man he executed during the war to not impair her right to raise a friend's toddler or to tell his godfather, grieving the loss of his only child, that the toddler in question is his grandson. I was intrigued by which way he would bounce so I read the next in series, Watchers of Time, in which the issue is not addressed (other than that he avoids his godfather).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 25, 2017 01:21 PM (Nwg0u)

295 About 2:00 am I was cursing the person who recommended Operation Kronstadt by Harry Ferguson. See I was going to read a chapter or two then go to bed. I am halfway through the book. Probably finish it up tonight. Great story.

Posted by: Charlotte at June 25, 2017 01:25 PM (RkYsP)

296 I haven't read the Hamburger book (and doubt that I will), but my BS detector went off at the description. While it doesn't explicitly say so, it sounds as if it's pushing the false impression that the royal power described is something which existed or grew for many centuries. This is a common error. The extreme power of the state was a relatively new thing; it really came in with the Tudors. Generally, this is true in W Europe. With the Renaissance worship of all things Roman, the model of the Roman state became standard. Earlier kings had nothing like that amount of power. (Note that slavery's return was another return to Roman practice at this time.)

Another thing, this time almost explicit, is the change came "after the civil war". Well, since the restoration came after the war, that is in fact true (up to a point). The war itself simply changed who was exercising the power. Even after the restoration, and after 1688, there was less of a change than usually implied. What did happen is that after 1714 - the Hanoverian accession - is that that power shifted heavily to Parliament.

Posted by: George LeS at June 25, 2017 01:29 PM (+TcCF)

297 Hitchcock made a movie of "Jamaica Inn" in 1939 right before he left for Hollywood.

Not one of his best, but there are interesting parts.
-------
The book, by Daphne du Maurier, is a pretty good read. The inn, BTW, still exists. I've been there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica_Inn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 25, 2017 01:47 PM (OdK9v)

298 Yawn. The story of the SOE and the march of the Das Reich was so secret that Max Hastings wrote a non-plagiarized book about it in 1983. Short version - Das Reich's delay in getting to Normandy was due far less to the efforts of the French Resistance and the SOE than German stupidity in diverting the Das Reich to fight the French Resistance and the SOE instead of marching immediately toward the beaches.

The description is playing fast and loose with the actual historical events, that even such actual events described, like the one SOE operative who help disabled - with the help of French railroad workers - tank transporter railcars, are not described correctly.

Posted by: TKYC at June 25, 2017 02:01 PM (osClt)

299 Can't stand Neil Gaiman, so I guess I will skip American Gods.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at June 25, 2017 02:02 PM (THS4q)

300 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)

If you guys haven't read Christopher's books yet you need to!
He's a really gifted storyteller.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at June 25, 2017 02:14 PM (hMwEB)

301 My dad worked at Detroit Edison in construction his entire career, and worked on Fermi 1 nuclear plant restart; I had just started college and he brought me back a radiation sign that I had in my college dorm. Still packed away somewhere.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 25, 2017 02:20 PM (JK7Jw)

302 sorry--wrong thread!

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 25, 2017 02:21 PM (JK7Jw)

303 I finished 'Pilgrim's Regress' this week and find I have a taste for allegory. May start on Dante, been a few decades.

Also finished 'Avenging Angels' by Chuck Dixon. USA Rangers with a time machine, pulpy fun.

I'm starting 'The Crimson Campaign' by Brian McClellan, second book in his Gunpowder Mage series. I like it a lot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 25, 2017 02:57 PM (xJa6I)

304 Regarding the French Revolution make sure to read Simon schama's 'Citizens' if you never have. He's a leftist crank but it's an incredibly good read
Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2017 09:20 AM (TppKb)


I've read Citizens and was impressed with the breadth of what he covered but I greatly preferred Jay Winik's narrative style in the French Revolution part of The Great Upheaval which Burt referred to without specifically naming earlier in the thread. Winik places the Revolution in its proper perspective, namely that it scared the piss out of the rest of the world and specifically dialed back Catherine the Great's plans to liberalize Russia which probably ultimately led to the commies seizing power.

Winik is very deferential to Schama's work but I consider both of them essential to a good understanding of the event.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2017 03:09 PM (y7DUB)

305 Regarding my own reading I'm about 2/3 through T. H. White's The Once and Future King. I think some members of The Horde like this more than I do but that shouldn't be misconstrued as a backhanded smack at anybody. It's a modern (well as modern as the 30s) update of the Arthurian legend and is written pretty damn well; and got me to LOL when he talked about Art sending the Knights to pursue the Holy Grail in not painstaking detail, and telling any readers wanting a fuller explication to go read Mallory. White takes great pains to describe the conflicted Lancelet banging Queen Jenny while Art seems to be the world's most clueless cuck. So it's been a fun read for sure.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2017 03:20 PM (y7DUB)

306 OT-I was listening to one of my favorite operas Mozart's-"The Magic Flute " which was on the radio. This just occurred to me-for those that know the opera-I wonder what would happen if Sarastro-the mysterious, wise magician had Donald Trump's hair and the evil Queen of the Night who is destroyed by Sorastro at the end of the opera- was in a pant suit and a mask of Hllary?. Would the leftists be horrified or would they be say "It's just art. Get over it!!"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2017 03:27 PM (qES5k)

307 Another, William Fairbairn, was a portly pensioner with an unusual passion: he was the world's leading expert in silent killing...

Guy like this... you probably do want to stay off his lawn.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 25, 2017 03:51 PM (+azJs)

308 Reading TARGET TOKYO ( by James M Scott) about the Dolittle Raiders so far so good I recommend the book bought his other book about WW2 subs.

Looking for a good book about the battle for MIDWAY.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 25, 2017 04:13 PM (dKiJG)

309 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 25, 2017 03:27 PM (qES5k)

There are crazy way-out opera productions but that would be beyond the pale. Sort of like when they wanted to stage the Michael Brown shooting in L.A. but accurately, and the actors walked out.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 25, 2017 05:26 PM (btnRY)

310 Just finished <i>The Gardner Heist</i> by Ulrich Boser. The book is a little unsatisfying because, as one learns early in the book, the crime remains unsolved.

Started this week on <i>River Town</i> by Peter Hessler about his two years spent living in China. Excellent so far.

Posted by: CommonSenseMom at June 25, 2017 06:12 PM (NSIL9)

311 <oops>!</oops>

Posted by: CommonSenseMom at June 25, 2017 06:13 PM (NSIL9)

312
Another, William Fairbairn, was a portly pensioner with an unusual passion: he was the world's leading expert in silent killing...

The Fairbain-Sykes fighting knife:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbairn%E2%80%93Sykes_fighting_knife

Posted by: Frankly at June 25, 2017 06:40 PM (Pre/a)

Overnight Open Thread (24 Jun 2017)

It looks the firm behind the dubious intelligence dossier on DJT is really an opposition-research group for Democrats and are political activists. You don't say. No wonder they are stonewalling the congressional investigators.

Testosterone

Well, this could explain some of the things we suffer through today like pajama boy. Men's testosterone levels declined in the last 20 years.

Healthcare

Yo, California. You should probably read this before y'all go hell bent on single-payer government run healthcare. Nearly 100 patients died waiting for care from Los Angeles VA.

Spaceballs Turns 30

Idiot

Yeah, if you're using Paul Krugman for advice, you're setting yourself up for failure. Paul Krugman on the minimum wage.

Paul Krugman has said that he doesn't read conservative blogs, so obviously he may not be familiar with the literature on how the minimum wage costs jobs. But that's no excuse for not even reading the first page of the study he links to in support of his claim.

What They Really Think

Oh I think there are many, many more progs who think this way and these two stories are just the tip of the iceberg. Professor says North Korea detainee got what he 'deserved'.

And this one from earlier this week. Democrat party technology chairman: I'm glad Scalise got shot, I wish he was f*cking dead".

Who knew, Republican's are murdering their own families according to Montel Williams on CNN.

Ultraboss

I guess they're calling this shredwave. Reminds me a bit of Joe Satriani.

Heh

'Sorry about that, eh' - Canadian sniper apologizes after record breaking kill shot.

According to experts, Canadian standard operating procedure is to ask a target's permission before ending his life, so as to maintain a spirit of good sportsmanship.

"We're all aboot friendship and fair play up here in Canada, even if we're just killing a bunch of hosers like ISIS," said Canadian military spokesman Mick Robinson. "All the famous Canadians that everyone's heard of like Frank Boucher and Jack Bionda would tell you the same, buddy."


You Don't Say

This wasn't getting a whole lot of national coverage for a bit but its starting to hit the MSM. Jane Sanders lawyers up.

Cat Video

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Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:02 PM (0mRoj)

8 >>>Yeah, if you're using Paul Krugman for advice, you're setting yourself up for failure. Paul Krugman on the minimum wage.<<<





**slams AoSHQ Style Guide down on the table**



That's former Enron adviser Paul Krugman.

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9 Corgis have been whistled at.

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10 *or snakes...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:04 PM (e9G8E)

11 All of our food packed with soy probably isn't doing testosterone levels any good

Posted by: NCKate at June 24, 2017 10:04 PM (Ek7I2)

12 Crimes the left opposes the death sentence for:

murder
armed robbery
cop killing
child rape

Crimes the left is now in favor of the death sentence for:

political opposition to the left

Posted by: Ripley at June 24, 2017 10:04 PM (NbRJx)

13 th

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14 Cat: Wanna buy a ukulele, haole?

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15 Spaceballs: The Video!

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (GsAUU)

16 Soy.
Estrogen in the water supply.
General discouragement of vigorous, competitive physical activity.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (0mRoj)

17

See the Daily Caller (and Daily Mail, of course) a gal named "Nina Skye", 21, a kindergarten teacher at a Christian school has been fired for doing, and refusing to quit doing, porn.

One of her titles was "Swallow Salon".

"I love teaching, I love sex," she declared.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (8O3HH)

18 So Fusion GPS, the opposition research company, rented a hotel room and some working girls and got some water sports on so they could speak with some authority to the subject. Amirite?

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (MKKK0)

19 Neither Camel filters or Camel toes are for everybody.

Posted by: Shep at June 24, 2017 10:08 PM (DMUuz)

20 18 So Fusion GPS, the opposition research company, rented a hotel room and some working girls and got some water sports on so they could speak with some authority to the subject. Amirite?
Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (MKKK0)

Got to do your background research.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:08 PM (0mRoj)

21 #17 So next step. Teach sex.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2017 10:08 PM (MKKK0)

22 Manly man would just crush pj boy's cranium with the butt of his manly Garand. Why waste a round?

Posted by: f'd at June 24, 2017 10:09 PM (BO/km)

23 "I love teaching, I love sex," she declared.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (8O3HH)

--Join the club, bitch.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:10 PM (GsAUU)

24 23 "I love teaching, I love sex," she declared.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 24, 2017 10:07 PM (8O3HH)

--Join the club, bitch.
Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:10 PM (GsAUU)

You were her co-star?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:11 PM (0mRoj)

25 It took until after the ONT call for someone to name their BM "The Toxic Avenger".

Horde I am disappoint

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 24, 2017 10:11 PM (66CWr)

26 The snipers have it down. Speak softly, be deadly. Act as if you've done this before and will continue to just do your job, very, very competently.

Posted by: RM at June 24, 2017 10:12 PM (eP+dt)

27 Shouldn't that read "former Enron advisor Paul Krugman"?

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 24, 2017 10:13 PM (v3DL/)

28 Heh. I'm gonna be trying out a live stream tonight on youtube for a game I'm playing with my clan.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:13 PM (9I51B)

29 If you can not lay pj boy down and out with an elbow to the throat, you are a girly morn or a disappointing ette. Elbows, the next assault weapon the left idiots want to ban.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 24, 2017 10:14 PM (qJ+iT)

30 12 Crimes the left opposes the death sentence for:

murder
armed robbery
cop killing
child rape


Posted by: Ripley at June 24, 2017 10:04 PM (NbRJx)

===

Ripley,
I think you left out a few, such as:

Treason, by anyone who voted for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for President

Beheading of an American, if done by a Muslim

Assassination of Republican Federal Officials and Judges




Posted by: Gref at June 24, 2017 10:14 PM (AMIL/)

31 Posted by: colfax mingo at June 24, 2017 10:14 PM (qJ+iT)

They aren't going to ban cheerleader elbows are they?

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:15 PM (9I51B)

32 "canadian sniper apologizes..."

that's funny. i've recently been viewing sctv's "great white north" with bob & doug mckenzie on youtube. some good bits.

they created that in response to a canadian govt edict that all tv programming must be c. 10% canadian to mitigate the influence of the u.s.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 24, 2017 10:15 PM (WTSFk)

33 Hey everybody.

Welp, I submitted my cookbook recipe last night to say thanks to the cobs for the countdown clock. My submission:

Egg McMorons.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 24, 2017 10:16 PM (eMKNe)

34 Pajama Boy is insidiously cruel in that his nonthreatening appearance lulls one into a false sense of security.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2017 10:16 PM (zkGZ8)

35 ... "canadian culture".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 24, 2017 10:16 PM (WTSFk)

36 You were her co-star?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:11 PM (0mRoj)

--Doubtful.

My man-whore phase was 10 years ago, when she was pre-jailbait.



But seriously, who doesn't like sex, and telling people what to do?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:17 PM (GsAUU)

37 ... some hosers in parkas drinking labatts.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 24, 2017 10:17 PM (WTSFk)

38 Slow tonight. People must be out having lives or something equally ridiculous.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:17 PM (0mRoj)

39 So... Is everyone enjoying a pleasant Eid al-fitr so far this evening?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:18 PM (e9G8E)

40 Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2017 10:18 PM (tr2D7)

41 thanks qdpsteve...nice recipe title!

Posted by: strawberry tart at June 24, 2017 10:18 PM (EqvVS)

42 But seriously, who doesn't like sex, and telling people what to do?
Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:17 PM (GsAUU)

I like the former, not so much the latter. I don't care for either exercising or being subject to authority.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (0mRoj)

43 Or it's just too hot to turn on any electronic devices.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (9I51B)

44 32 "canadian sniper apologizes..."

that's funny. i've recently been viewing sctv's "great white north" with bob & doug mckenzie on youtube. some good bits.

they created that in response to a canadian govt edict that all tv programming must be c. 10% canadian to mitigate the influence of the u.s.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 24, 2017 10:15 PM (WTSFk)

--Heh, have you heard of Can Con? Or Con Can?

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (GsAUU)

45 insomniac, how did your work go this past week? I recall reading that you have a new contract?

Posted by: booknlass at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (v7o4i)

46 strawberry tart, thanks! I like your nic too. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (eMKNe)

47 CDR,

The LGBTUIUIO indeed want to ban cheerleader elbows. Do it to strike down toxic masculinaty!

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (qJ+iT)

48 Posted by: strawberry tart at June 24, 2017 10:18 PM (EqvVS)

I'll think about some recipes to submit.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (9I51B)

49 I tried submitting a recipe today. I downloaded javascript and enabled it. So I thought. Guess I'm too dumb to figure it all out.

Posted by: Infidel at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (gDoff)

50 Hey Insomniac.

How's life?

Posted by: SMFH at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (s5Kql)

51
You know what, I believe this "Nina Skye" business is a marketing ploy. The school was "undisclosed LA Christian school".

Looking at her, uh, work, there be buttstuff afoot.

Call me naive, but I don't believe some gal who is this far into it would be applying to be a teacher at Christian school kindergarten.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (8O3HH)

52 45 insomniac, how did your work go this past week? I recall reading that you have a new contract?
Posted by: booknlass at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (v7o4i)

Good. I got a few projects that I've already wrapped up. Hopefully it'll grow.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (0mRoj)

53 If Pajama Boy were to face off against "GI Joe" (from the picture) he might well stand a good chance of killing Joe.





The soldier would die from laughter.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (rxW5j)

54 Manly man would just crush pj boy's cranium with the butt of his manly Garand. Why waste a round?
---
Because the Spirit of the Bayonet is to Kill, and Kill Without Mercy!

Blood makes the grass grow green and napalm sticks to kids!

(yes, i went through Ft Benning before PC infected the military... why do you ask?)

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2017 10:21 PM (ZpwZ/)

55 Oh I just thought of a recipe to submit. Oh yes. Garlic infused, bacon wrapped, baby white potatoes.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (9I51B)

56 here's my recipe for Cherries Trump:
two pounds cherries, ripe but firm
thoroughly rinse and remove stems
throw in air while yelling "Hillary will never be president!!"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (ILitO)

57 Good. I got a few projects that I've already wrapped up. Hopefully it'll grow.
Posted by: Insomniac

Excellent right there! glad to hear it!

Posted by: booknlass at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (v7o4i)

58 Blood makes the grass grow green and napalm sticks to kids!

'I am stuck on na-palm brand 'cuz na-palm's stuck on me...'

Posted by: Vietnamese Kids circa 1968 at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (eMKNe)

59 55 Oh I just thought of a recipe to submit. Oh yes. Garlic infused, bacon wrapped, baby white potatoes.
Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (9I51B)

--I'll bite. . . .

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:23 PM (GsAUU)

60 mallfly, sounds de-lish! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 24, 2017 10:23 PM (eMKNe)

61 Infidel,

"Guess I'm to dumb to figure it all out."

Me too. But I have an excuse. I have not hung out here long enough to be a real moron.

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 24, 2017 10:23 PM (qJ+iT)

62 Yeah, I make those potatoes when I'm making pulled pork in the smoker. My neighborhood goes bonkers.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (9I51B)

63 Javascript or Java, Infidel? Not quit the same thing... I don't think one actually downloads javascript!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (e9G8E)

64 I'll think about some recipes to submit.
Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:19 PM (9I51B)
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Thank you! We would love that.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (1O9i3)

65 Good. I got a few projects that I've already wrapped up.
Posted by: Insomniac
---
Are you nuts?!! And you call yourself a consultant. Don't bother sending your resume to Accenture, McKinsey or Deloitte.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (tr2D7)

66 OK, so like, Canadian culture is like, beauty.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (zkGZ8)

67 44. no. but i remember when ottawa came up with that cultural diktat. reminiscent of the french legislating language to stem the influence of english pop culture. deeply offensive.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (WTSFk)

68 Men's testosterone levels declined in the last 20 years.

Well duh. We're all 20 years older.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (LTHVh)

69 50 Hey Insomniac.

How's life?
Posted by: SMFH at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (s5Kql)

Hey! Nice to see you!

I picked up a few projects on a contract basis from a local attorney, which is good. A prospective employer actually got back to me about scheduling an interview which will hopefully get set up in the next couple of weeks.

Otherwise, everything's pretty much the same. How are things with you?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:25 PM (0mRoj)

70 ZR, well that may be the problem. Like I said . . . I wasted 2 hrs this afternoon. May try again tomorrow.

Posted by: Infidel at June 24, 2017 10:25 PM (gDoff)

71 M1 in the Life magazine cover of the real man makes me think I should load some 30-06 this week while the house is being painted. Have about 200 cases prepped primed and ready.

So 26-yr olds need to be on their parents' (mangled, vastly over- and mis-regulated, insanely needlessly expensive) health "insurance" plans .... I mean even "Republicans" say it's a "popular" part of O-care.

"Pappy" Boyington got his nickname because he was *31* years old - much older than most of the Marines under him in his fighter squadron in the Pacific.

Yeah, yeah ..... apples and oranges, non-comparable things being compared, nothing stays the same, blah blah blah. Sorry. Some things are objective measures of decline. There are many all around us.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2017 10:26 PM (iynDC)

72 Well, this could explain some of the things we suffer through today like pajama boy. Men's testosterone levels declined in the last 20 years.


Interestingly, some of the women we see at the protests look like they have more testosterone than Pajama Boy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 24, 2017 10:26 PM (+lVUW)

73 Infidel, Weasel is the one who built the website, and I know nothing about how it works. But shoot us an email at recipes at moroncookbook dot com (we share that email address) and we will figure it out. Thanks for trying! We will get it straight.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 24, 2017 10:26 PM (1O9i3)

74 One merely enables javascript...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (e9G8E)

75 65 Good. I got a few projects that I've already wrapped up.
Posted by: Insomniac
---
Are you nuts?!! And you call yourself a consultant. Don't bother sending your resume to Accenture, McKinsey or Deloitte.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (tr2D7)

Heh. Yeah, I'm one of those weird people who believes in actually getting shit done instead of churning files. Integrity and a work ethic just don't have the same cachet they once did.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

76 Good. I got a few projects that I've already wrapped up. Hopefully it'll grow.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:20 PM (0mRoj)

Did not know that. Great to hear!!

Evening all. No life here, just another night at work.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (D2vc1)

77 Slow tonight. People must be out having lives or something equally ridiculous.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:17 PM (0mRoj)

I'm sitting in bed smoking a cigarette and finishing my drink and reading the ONT.
THIS...is My Life.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (Id9+8)

78 ***TOP FIVE LEAST POPULAR MORON COOKBOOK SUBMISSIONS FROM QDPSTEVE***

5. Garlic chocolate truffles

4. Corned beef hash pizza

3. Gympie-Gympie steak sauce

2. Anchovy pudding

1. Pantyhose flambe

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

79 Spaceballs. Meh. A few clever moments at.best. It was no Rothko.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (l0fAp)

80 T is being bred out of us, selectively.

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (yOqwj)

81 P. S. Look at the picture of Pajama Boy again. It looks like he's gotten his eyebrows done. Very nicely arched.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (+lVUW)

82 66 OK, so like, Canadian culture is like, beauty.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2017 10:24 PM (zkGZ

--Take off!


Well, by coincidence I was listening earlier to Let It Die by the lovely Leslie Feist. Holy shit, what a bunkworthy album that is. Well, for me at least. Tastes vary.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (GsAUU)

83 >>>here's my recipe for Cherries Trump:
two pounds cherries, ripe but firm
thoroughly rinse and remove stems
throw in air while yelling "Hillary will never be president!!"


Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 24, 2017 10:22 PM (ILitO)<<<

I'd like two scoops, please.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (rxW5j)

84 Now we know how AOP will be moonlighting with that Postal Van he bought. Heh!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (v5iqM)

85 Doing ok, Insomniac.

Glad to hear that you're working!

Posted by: SMFH at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (s5Kql)

86 'Sorry about that, eh' - Canadian sniper apologizes after record breaking kill shot.

The most amazing thing was pulling the ISIS guy's jersey over his head at that distance.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (tMFgx)

87 Thanks bluebell! I am not computer literate in any sense of the word.

Posted by: Infidel at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (gDoff)

88 78 ***TOP FIVE LEAST POPULAR MORON COOKBOOK SUBMISSIONS FROM QDPSTEVE**

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What? No placenta dishes?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (l0fAp)

89 One does not merely enable javascript.

Posted by: Boromir at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (LTHVh)

90 >>>I'll think about some recipes to submit.


goodygoodygumdrops CDR M

Posted by: strawberry tart at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (EqvVS)

91 I've no need of Java... Most web sites won't render properly unless one's browser has javascript enabled!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (e9G8E)

92 85 Doing ok, Insomniac.

Glad to hear that you're working!
Posted by: SMFH at June 24, 2017 10:28 PM (s5Kql

Good that you're OK. Having a little something purposeful to do makes a huge difference to the old mental state.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (0mRoj)

93 Cicero, I have enough trouble finding chitlins. :-/

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 24, 2017 10:29 PM (eMKNe)

94 pajama boy may be the millennial version of Billy Jack.

"Drop it or die."

"Posner, you know my meaning. "

"When I think of the number of years this little girl will have to carry around this stupid moment of yours...I just go berserk"

"I try. And I try. And I try to control my violent temper."

"I'm going to whop you right on the side of your head with this foot. And there's nothing you can do about it."

Look at the picture of pajama boy. Drink hot chocolate. View the coiled body language. Do you sense the very real menace?

Posted by: RM at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (eP+dt)

95 SMFH, what is your take on the Raiders' draft?

Also, there's a new Chiefs fan on board where I work.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe and Macedonian content at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (GsAUU)

96 Pajama Boy is here to kick ass and drink espresso with an almond-coconut milk blend and just a splash of International Delights French vanilla creamer, and he's all out of espresso, almond-coconut milk and International Delights French vanilla creamer.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (zkGZ8)

97 A female mole has more testerone than pj boy. Duh!

Posted by: colfax mingo at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (qJ+iT)

98 It's nice to see Eid coincide with all of the gay rights parades today!

The Chicago Dyke Parade went off without a hitch. I understand the churros are really good.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (yw1cW)

99 Don't worry, Infidel, neither am I. Weasel downloads the recipes every morning and sends them to me. He was smart enough not to even ask if I wanted to try to get them myself.

Posted by: bluebell ~ if the recipe's a hit, you must submit! at June 24, 2017 10:30 PM (1O9i3)

100 Posted by: NCKate at June 24, 2017 10:04 PM (Ek7I2)

All the milk our betters keep pushing as necessary doesn't help either; presumably the cows are given some sort of female hormone to keep them producing milk.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 24, 2017 10:31 PM (tJeKM)

101 I actually liked the Raiders draft. Top 2 picks will be very good (as long as the Conley case is cleared).

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:31 PM (9I51B)

102 One merely enables javascript...


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 24, 2017 10:27 PM (e9G8E)

Yeah, about that. Can't find on this computer. Nevermind. Will have grandson fix it for me.

Posted by: Infidel at June 24, 2017 10:31 PM (gDoff)

103 Infidel, what type of computer are you using?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 24, 2017 10:32 PM (0wem/)

104 Infidel...

email

recipes@moroncookbook.com

for questions/comments

Posted by: strawberry tart at June 24, 2017 10:32 PM (EqvVS)

105 That UCLA linemen has big potential.

Posted by: CDR M at June 24, 2017 10:32 PM (9I51B)

106 Am I the only one who thinks that cat and dog video is a bit pervy. The owners need to hose those to down.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 24, 2017 10:32 PM (+lVUW)

107 *raises glass to Miley*

Glad I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Infidel at June 24, 2017 10:32 PM (gDoff)

108 Miley!

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 24, 2017 10:33 PM (0wem/)

109 on Avatar : The Last Airbender, second season

OMG this is so awesome. A parody of professional wrestling, complete with The Boulder (lol); and the next episode has Zuko playing the role of Clint fuckin' Eastwood, the Man With No Name.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 24, 2017 10:33 PM (6FqZa)

110 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert, Former ONT Staple, has a broken G