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Trump Shifts Iran Compliance Certification Authority Away from State Department to His Own Team

Or at least he's trying to do that.

President Donald Trump has reportedly sidelined the State Department and entrusted White House staffers with making the potential case for withholding certification of Iran at the next 90-day review of the nuclear deal, Foreign Policy reported.

According to the report, the president made the decision after his "contentious meeting" with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson last week.

Newsmax reported:

“This is about the president asking Tillerson at the last certification meeting 90 days earlier to lay the groundwork so Trump could consider his options," one of the sources said.

"Tillerson did not do this, and Trump is infuriated. He can't trust his secretary of state to do his job, so he is turning to the few White House staffers he trusts the most," the source added.

Tillerson, it is reported, is generally "frustrated" (possibly by this maneuver specifically) and is considering resigning.

CNN reports that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is becoming “increasingly frustrated” with President Donald Trump and his administration to the point where he is allegedly considering a resignation from his post, and could quit before 2017 ends.

Sources reportedly close to Tillerson told CNN that the Secretary of State is losing patience with Trump and, as a result, there may be a “Rexit” in the near future.

Except for the Iran certification, Tillerson hasn't impressed me as especially good or especially bad. He's just a warm body filling a hole.

My problem with forcing Tillerson out is the same I have with forcing Sessions out: Who's going to take this job?

No one takes a stressful job except for one reason: to increase their reputation, power, and personal earning potential.

It doesn't seem like being a Secretary in the Trump Administration is the gateway to accomplishing any of those things.

So who comes in? Who has the stature enough, and the Establishment blessing enough (because you know no man comes into the Kingdom of Government except through the Establishment), and is also willing to be professionally humiliated down the line, to become the SecState?

Posted by: Ace at 04:10 PM




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1 Deep State gotta deep.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (DQ4Fv)

2 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."

Tingles.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (DQ4Fv)

3 I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman joke about Tillerson and can't. Where's Muldoon when you need him?

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (eXSOZ)

4 Ace, didn't you call for Tillerson to be replaced like a day or two ago?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (UBzPO)

5 I am not going to believe anything the MSM says until it proves to be true in real life. Tillerson is probably taking some heat from PDT, but he is used to that in his corporate career..shareholders are not known for their genteel disposition.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (a0IVu)

6 I would do it and do exactly what Trump wanted me to do. I trust him more to have his country's best interests at heart than anyone other than myself.

Posted by: Ummmmm at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (PBhCj)

7 So who comes in?

--

Sounds like a job for Brutus, if the establishment gets its wish.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (7ZVPa)

8 This explains why Tillerson is taking some vacation time, he is mad at Trump for getting into his rice bowl.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (0pcwX)

9 http://www.kansas.com/news/local/article162859068.html


Wichita Woman wins national contest, then was disqualified for supporting Trump

An Instagram post showing support for President Donald Trump apparently disqualified a local makeup artist from a national contest.

Gypsy Freeman, who splits time between Wichita and Florida, last month was declared the winner of an Instagram contest sponsored by Kat Von D Beauty, according to screenshots taken by Freeman.

The winner of the Saint + Sinner Contest – and a guest – was to be flown to Los Angeles to attend the launch party of a new makeup line from Kat Von D, perhaps best known for her role on “LA Ink.” The approximate value of the prize package, which included a $500 gift card to Sephora, was $2,100.

To enter, Freeman submitted an Instagram image of an angelic figure beside a girl in an all-black outfit and thick mascara.

When Freeman was announced as the winner, curious Instagrammers went to her page and found a pro-Trump post from Election Day last year.

That evening, she received a direct message from Kat Von D’s personal Instagram account, telling her the celebrity had “drawn a personal line in the sand between myself and anyone who supports that man,” according to screenshots of the conversation.

“My launch party [and my brand] celebrates many things that Trump is against,” the celebrity went on to say, according to the screenshots. “And I just need you to know that I personally have a hard time with inviting anyone who would support such an anti-feminist, anti-homosexual/LGBT, anti-immigrant, and anti-climate change fascist such as Trump.”

According to the screenshots, Freeman replied: “I won’t be upset with you if you can’t have us there for these reasons, and I wish you the best. We would love to be there, of course, but I sincerely do understand if you decide to replace us with someone who supports the candidate you support.”

The celebrity then replied, according to the screenshots provided: “It’s not about inviting people based on their political stance – it’s just extremely difficult (borderline impossible) for me to be friends with or associate with anyone who would support a man who goes against everything I stand for. I would feel the same way towards people who supported Hitler, or any other fascist.”

Multiple phone calls and messages left with Kendo Holdings, the parent company of Kat Von D Beauty, have not been returned.

The Florida-based photographer who took the photos for Freeman’s entry, Jenn Bischof, was invited to – and attended – the launch party in her place, Freeman said. A post on Bischof’s Instagram account shows her at the party alongside Kat Von D.

All evidence of the contest’s existence has since been deleted from the brand’s Instagram account and website, though the contest rules are available in a cached version of the site. The rules state that any legal U.S. resident 18 or older was eligible to win and could enter by submitting a “Saint and Sinner inspired” makeup look.

Freeman told The Eagle it’s “really unfortunate” that politics was brought into an art contest “where I never brought it into the art contest.”

“I didn’t erase (the Trump post) either,” she said. “Part of the great thing about this country is having freedom of speech.

“I said the same thing to Kat. I was like, ‘You can say whatever you want to say and you shouldn’t filter comments based on who I support. It doesn’t bother me.’ ”

Freeman – who does fashion editorial, styling and a variety of bridal work – said she has used Kat Von D Beauty products in her makeup kit for years, though she will likely stop doing so. She said she plans to contact Sephora, which sells the product line, about the incident as well.

“It’s definitely bigotry – it’s everything that they’re calling us, they’re doing,” she said. “It’s a huge case of hypocrisy.”

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

10 Second look at Sec. State Mitt Rmoney?

(throws up)

Posted by: DocJ at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (NYS7S)

11 Aye, aye, captain.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (cjVcY)

12 I'll take the job.
Let's bomb Libya again.

Posted by: Hillary at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (7wyDO)

13 "Sources reportedly close to Tillerson told CNN that the Secretary of State is losing patience with Trump and, as a result, there may be a "Rexit"in the near future"


Well, bye.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (lIZQs)

14 Well, Bolton ain't doing anything, is he?

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (a0IVu)

15

Tillerson did it as a favor it sounded like from the beginning. He probably wouldn't mind getting back to a more sane life.

Politics is dirty and ugly. Trump is learning it the hard way. It ain't easy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (fceHP)

16 Has Trump fired the entire Obama state department yet?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (rnAwa)

17 Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (mbhDw)

18 Trump is going to get impeached for this, LOL.

Black helicopters are moving into position for Operation Double Scoops.

Posted by: Max Power at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (q177U)

19 bolton

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (0wem/)

20 Who's gonna' fill their shoes ?

Posted by: Zombie George Jones at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (Niu5G)

21 Good God, if it is true that Trump wanted a specific deliverable (a list of options for the next meeting), and Tillerson didn't do it, then fuck Tillerson. This is basic Corporate stuff, people. You deliver what the boss wants.

Problem is, I don't know what is true or not.

Thanks, MFM.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (8iiMU)

22 "anti-homosexual/LGBT...fascist such as Trump."

"In other news, I am a fucking retard" - Kat Von D.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (eXSOZ)

23 Except, who in their right mind believes any report on CN-fucking-N?????

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

24 Never save your enemy from their own mistakes. The Iran deal belongs to Obama and the Democrats. Don't save them from it. Make them own it, right up until Iran tests its own nuclear weapon.

Then you can suggest Iran name their first two nukes "Jug Ears" and "Horse Face" after the two fucking Democrats who made sure Iran could get them.


Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (FEAjO)

25
Yep, Bolton is the one. Maybe Rudy.

So I missed it.... what happened in the kabuki vote?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (r+sAi)

26 25
Yep, Bolton is the one. Maybe Rudy.

So I missed it.... what happened in the kabuki vote?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (r+sAi)


50-50 tie. Pence cast the tiebreaker. Debate is on.

Murkowski and Collins voted no.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (mbhDw)

27 "CNN reports"

is a problem for me. Just sayin'

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (H2BDP)

28 "In other news, I am a fucking retard" - Kat Von D.

Kat ... don't be so hard on yourself. Your level of sexual activity is no one else's business.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (Niu5G)

29 This whole "drain the swamp" idea is difficult when the entire area is a swamp.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (3myMJ)

30 No one takes a stressful job except for one reason: to increase their reputation, power, and personal earning potential.

It doesn't seem like being a Secretary in the Trump Administration is the gateway to accomplishing any of those things.



You don't get those things by not carrying out the boss's orders. You get those things best by carrying out those orders "jam up and jelly tight".

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (cjVcY)

31 Except, who in their right mind believes any report on CN-fucking-N?????
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit from a few months back?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (7uYFy)

32
Thank you JJ.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (r+sAi)

33 29 This whole "drain the swamp" idea is difficult when the entire area is a swamp.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (3myMJ)


When you cannot drain swamp, swamp drain.

- - Shit Confuious Said, Vol. 2

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (mbhDw)

34 For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

35 17
Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (mbhDw)

And thus far, this has been Trump's biggest mistake. Not removing those who are against him. It isn't like you have to ferret them out. If you walked down the hall and indiscriminately picked 50% of the people you saw, you still wouldn't incur any friendly fire.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

36 True story:

The word "malaria" comes from the Italian "mal" (bad" + "aria" (air) -- due to the medieval belief that malaria was caused by the "bad air" around marshy areas. They had no idea it was the mosquitos in the air, not the air itself.

But there was a large swampy area west of Rome where the Tiber delta was, and since Roman times it was thought to be cursed, literally cursed, with "mal aria," which made people sick, so it was avoided.

Then in the 1930s Mussolini announced that he was literally going to "drain the swamp," a massive engineering project. But he did it -- he drained the swamp around the Tiber delta.

And it worked! Suddenly no one was getting malaria anymore (because there was no longer around breeding grounds for mosquito larvae).

This is actually one of the things that really really made Mussolini popular. After he drained the swamp, the people loved him wholeheartedly.

Not that I approve of Mussolini's other policies, but Trump needs to take a big historical lesson from this:

Draining the swamp will make you eternally popular.

It may be difficult to do, but the effort is worth it.

Drain that swamp! Get rid of Washington Malaria!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (DQ4Fv)

37 Replace Tillerson with Bolton. Replace Sessions with Napolitano.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (lIZQs)

38 That depends on who you are thinking about as a replacement, Ace.

Maybe if we got out of the D.C. Cocktail circuit picks we could do better as a country.

Some of our best Sos's were outside this mold of conventional 30 year old scotch drinking sycophants we've fallen into.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (zJ3L1)

39 34
For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

And for clarification - that does not mean the Republican party.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

40 Probably, Tillerson expected his staff to get right on that! and they slow-walked it....
So, maybe he ain't up to snuff, eh?

Posted by: MarkY at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (i022r)

41 Trump should have fired every single person he legally could right when his hand came off the Bible.

He should do so today to rectify that.

Posted by: Memories at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (mwcEF)

42 Who's going to take this job?

Trump could start with 12 candidates, and then weed one out each week, until he's selected a winner to get the post. They could even televise it.

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: brak at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (5iU/N)

43 36
Drain that swamp! Get rid of Washington Malaria!
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (DQ4Fv)


Malaria already went to college. Along with Sushi.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (mbhDw)

44
Fact check status:
[X] According to the report
[X] one of the sources said
[X] the source added

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (EgwCt)

45 This shit comes from CNN... pullease.. they make up stories by throwing darts at words on a cork board..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (so+oy)

46 Not that I approve of Mussolini's other policies, but Trump needs to take a big historical lesson from this:

Draining the swamp will make you eternally popular.
=========
Until they hang you from a lamp post, naked, upside down and the women cut off your junk.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (ZJ5xv)

47 Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits
in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit
from a few months back?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (7uYFy)



Yeah, and if it's not CNN it's the cock-holsters at the WaPu. At this point any thinking person has to immediately disbelieve any story about the Trump Admin from those two sources.....

Just gotta!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (jjaLl)

48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (zSVEm)

49 "jam up and jelly tight".


We have a closet Tommy Roe fan.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (lIZQs)

50 For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

And for clarification - that does not mean the Republican party.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

Yes exactly. NO RINOs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (5y11N)

51 48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (zSVEm)


Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

52 I say fire Tillerson

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)

53 But I will say this.. badmouthing your own AG in public has to sit badly with all the other cabinet members.. Trump is an asshole.. it's gonna be a long 4 years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (so+oy)

54 Probably, Tillerson expected his staff to get right on that! and they slow-walked it....

So, maybe he ain't up to snuff, eh?

Posted by: MarkY at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (i022r)



Isn't the State Dept still 95% Obama cock-suckers?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (jjaLl)

55 Next up on CNN, is Steve Bannon really s Russian plant like Kevin Costner was in that movie!! OMG!!

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (zJ3L1)

56 52 I say fire Tillerson
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)


Considering its record, do we really need a State Dept.? Axing for a fiend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (mbhDw)

57 The biggest problem with swamps in general is that once you have one, immediately adorable orphans named Penny get kidnapped by Madame Medusa and taken to her derelict paddleboat, where they are beyond all hope of rescue unless the Rescue Aid Society sends two mice named Barnard and Bianca to save her.

Am I watching The Rescuers in my head instead of thinking about Tillerson? You're damn right I am.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (eXSOZ)

58 Confucius say man draining swamp tap morass.

Posted by: ancient wisdom at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (+INtM)

59 Told this one before, but I had a cousin who worked in DC for 29 years. Cheated with fake paperwork to get his 30 year retirement level, which he bragged about. Dept of Labor under Robert Reich and Craig Fuller.

When Raegan was elected I asked him if he was worried. He laughed. "Presidents come and go, but we are always here", he said.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (3myMJ)

60 Trump should get Lisa Murkowski to take the job, then fire her.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (4e+hS)

61 badmouthing your own AG in public has to sit badly with all the other cabinet members.. Trump is an asshole.. it's gonna be a long 4 years.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (so+oy)

yes, but knee capping the man who appointed you AG by recussing yourself and sticking him with a special council up his ass is also an asshole move

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (5y11N)

62 Yeah i haven't been particularly impressed with Tillerson in the office. He seems to be just keeping the seat warm and getting little done.

For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.


I think he is personally center-left/Clintonian, but is being so hated and villified by his own team that he's moving to the right. He's not a guy who'll give in and decide to get along either. The guy holds a grudge like Rosie O'Donnell does a bucket of Cherry Garcia.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (39g3+)

63 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (UCap9)

64 54
Isn't the State Dept still 95% Obama cock-suckers?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (jjaLl)


It's still 99% FDR cocksuckers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (mbhDw)

65 Tillerson is another piece of crap he needs to scrape from the bottom of his golf shoe.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (mcI77)

66 51 48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (zSVEm)


Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Well, the here and now is a bunch of dithering and obfuscation by Washington, which shows no sign of ever abating because they can get by with it.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (zSVEm)

67 Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (UBzPO)

68 Who's going to take this job? The Stache is coming, the stache is coming

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (9TU00)

69 56
52 I say fire Tillerson

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)





Considering its record, do we really need a State Dept.? Axing for a fiend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (mbhDw)

Only if your friend wants to enrich themselves, their foundation and sell access.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (jxbfJ)

70 Bolton starts off with only 51 possible votes to confirm because Rand Paul hates him.

Posted by: mark1971 at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (xPl2J)

71 "So who comes in?"

Mr. John Bolton.

God willing.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (INRVS)

72 He really needed Tillerson to deal with the Russians. Since Democrats have made any rapprochement toxic, so he really doesn't need him. We'll just live in the dangerous world Democrats create for their political advancement

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (zJ3L1)

73 If both Tillerson and Sessions are forced out, Trump has created a real dumpster fire.

You can't scream that Tillerson is part of the swamp, guy is a complete outsider. And he's incredibly competent.

Whatever, I'll still pull the handle for Trump, but this idea that Trump is some super awesome businessman that only puts the "best" around him and makes sound decisions to me looks like someone flying by the seat of their pants and just goes with whoever best flatters his ego.

Maybe Ivanaka and Jared Kushner can just run every department.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (LHzKO)

74 the FL woman should sue for breach of contract but it would cost her more than the $2100 prize.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (mpXpK)

75 Most likely Tillerson was out of the country and so he put staff on this issue. They screwed him.

I know in the beginning there was a lot of talk about institutional knowledge and we can't just fire everyone. However, if the institutional knowledge is perversely intent on doing its own thing, its a problem. Its not a democracy anymore then, is it.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (LC0q7)

76 Trump should get Lisa Murkowski to take the job, then fire her.

Lindsey first

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (9TU00)

77 67 Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (UBzPO)


Love him. And my question stands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (mbhDw)

78 Confucius say man draining swamp tap morass.
Posted by: ancient wisdom at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (+INtM)

LOL!

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (lIZQs)

79 When Raegan was elected I asked him if he was worried. He laughed. "Presidents come and go, but we are always here", he said.

That's exactly right. The Bureaucracy is unaccountable and only swings one way: to the left. There has to be house cleaning and changes made or nothing good can come of it no matter who wins or what majority there is. And even then, its going to be up to congress to deal with some wayward judges, as well because they've proved that they're willing to abandon every semblence of justice, prudence, logic, and reason to impose their own desires.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (39g3+)

80 I think he is personally center-left/Clintonian, but is being so hated and villified by his own team that he's moving to the right. He's not a guy who'll give in and decide to get along either. The guy holds a grudge like Rosie O'Donnell does a bucket of Cherry Garcia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (39g3+)

I doubt he is center left...Maybe center, but most of all pragmatic and wants to get things done. And yes I bet he holds a hell of a grudge until it suits him not to

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (5y11N)

81 I don't think he'll have any problem finding someone to fill the position. That dump overflows with people who think they are truly speacial, and will be the only person who can do the job.

Posted by: Thursby at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (/HbGD)

82 70
Bolton starts off with only 51 possible votes to confirm because Rand Paul hates him.


Posted by: mark1971 at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (xPl2J)
Does Rand Paul like anyone at all? He seems to dislike everyone and everything.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (a0IVu)

83 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."




Or, you are in DC.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (Bd48Y)

84 If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.*

*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (eXSOZ)

85 It's still 99% FDR cocksuckers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (mbhDw)



LOL, good one!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (jjaLl)

86 I think that working alongside high-performers like former generals Mattis and Kelly makes people like Tillerson and Sessions look like they are moving at a snail's pace.

Tillerson may have done well in the corporate world, but in government you have to deal with the lethargy and inertia of bureaucracy.

Ditto for the former senator now AG, whose job in the Senate was to frustrate change and generate false compromise.

Try to keep up with the big dogs, boys.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (4AVeu)

87 Adam Kredo over at the _Free Bacon_ caught a State Department apparatchik saying, officially and on the record, that State has absolutely no idea what causes Arab Muslims to commit terror atrocities such as the recent lethal attacks at the Temple Mount. It's a total mystery. Perhaps sunspots are somehow implicated. Further investigation is required.

And this was just a couple of days ago. After Tillerson's been on the job at State for months. To give you an idea of just how deep the rot goes in Foggy Bottom.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (ujwCG)

88 Or what rickb223 said.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (eXSOZ)

89 This shit comes from CNN... pullease.. they make up stories by throwing darts at words on a cork board..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

or Ben Rhodes cake-hole

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:19 PM (9TU00)

90 under Tillerson the State Department has floated a number of policy turds, mainly concerning the Middle East. not to mention the leaks and backbiting. I really don't think he has done what he needed to do.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 04:19 PM (kqI/Q)

91 yes, but knee capping the man who appointed you AG by recussing yourself and sticking him with a special council up his ass is also an asshole move
Posted by: Nevergiveup
.............
It's a bad situation all around... the last thing we need is a petulant prezzy tweeting about it from the oval office.

Man up and fire Sessions or shut the fuck up..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2017 04:19 PM (so+oy)

92 If I had billions to blow I would explore a new party on the right. I don't have any money so I will wait patently for anything that might shoe a small hope that maybe someday somewhere there could be a shift right in politics. I feel like Charlie Brown and the damn football.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 04:19 PM (zZWkn)

93 87 Foggy Bottom.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (ujwCG)


Top can't locate it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:19 PM (mbhDw)

94 >>>>>Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits

in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit

from a few months back?



Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (7uYFy)



Yeah,
and if it's not CNN it's the cock-holsters at the WaPu. At this point
any thinking person has to immediately disbelieve any story about the
Trump Admin from those two sources.....

Just gotta!
.
.
.Wapo was the one who said Trump was going to fire Bannon over two months ago....according to four separate sources "close" to the Administration.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (0pcwX)

95 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."

Go on.

Posted by: Barney Fwank at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8b+oT)

96 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (XvbjR)

97 And he's incredibly competent.

Wouldn't being incredibly competent throw a refusal to compet into even greater relief, and constitute a bigger failure? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (eXSOZ)

98 >>>>>If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.*



*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all
external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description
requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by
induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.
.
.
.I'm surrounded by assholes......

Posted by: Dark Helmet at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (0pcwX)

99 >>>*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.

Trump came from NYC, you think he'd be used to assholes. Hell, he invited assholes to his wedding.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (UCap9)

100 35 17
Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (mbhDw)

And thus far, this has been Trump's biggest mistake. Not removing those who are against him. It isn't like you have to ferret them out. If you walked down the hall and indiscriminately picked 50% of the people you saw, you still wouldn't incur any friendly fire.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

++++

The problems are the limitations on firing some and on replacing others. He can't fire civil servants without cause. And, most of the political appointees have to get confirmed through the Senate. And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)

101 96 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (XvbjR)


Here I is!!!!

- - Buckwheat Sefton

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (mbhDw)

102 95 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."
____________________________________


He said "a hole".

Posted by: Beavis at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (4AVeu)

103 the last thing we need is a petulant prezzy tweeting about it from the oval office.

No the last thing we need is The FAB, or some other Left Winger, or a RINO in the Oval Office.

What ever PDT faults are, and he has many, he is our President and our last hope to break the swamp or else.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (5y11N)

104 What can Tillerson (or anyone for that matter) do if State is dry rotted top to bottom? Ship the worst of the lot to remote locations of the compass - in conjunction with forced retirements - probably pencils out to less than fifteen percent of departmental careerists.

Posted by: 13times at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (WHVu+)

105 When the Left makes kamikaze runs, it's because they know someone has their back and will hook them up with some cushy sinecure somewhere in exchange for their losses.

Nobody's doing that on our side. It's like nobody has the slightest understanding of human psychology or how risk-reward actually fucking works.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (AM1GF)

106 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J
++++

Wasn't that Tillerson?

The guy was not a show boater, loyal, and competent. Had no political aspirations to speak of.

And he ran Exon Mobil, which is a real job.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (LHzKO)

107 Trump's painting himself into a corner. He can't just start a new season with a new batch of apprentices.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2017 04:22 PM (K/9da)

108 If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)



Isn't Rodenstein a Trump appointee?

Believe he is.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:22 PM (jjaLl)

109 Confucius say man with mosquito on ballsack know the meaning of compromise.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:22 PM (UCap9)

110 "No one takes a stressful job except for one reason: to increase their reputation, power, and personal earning potential."

I would take it just to purge my personal enemies list, bang a few hot lobbyists, and bail with style.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:22 PM (9TU00)

111 63 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (UCap9)

I no longer agree with that or similar statements.

This country is overrun with worthless pieces of shit. Period.

(not referring to you here)

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 04:22 PM (NKBOU)

112 92 If I had billions to blow I would explore a new party on the right. I don't have any money so I will wait patently for anything that might shoe a small hope that maybe someday somewhere there could be a shift right in politics. I feel like Charlie Brown and the damn football.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 04:19

See, that's the problem. People who pay attention to what is going on are completely cynical about politicians, not believing one thing that they say or say they are going to do.
....... On reflection, that is not a problem, but reality, and what new directions are made of.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (zSVEm)

113 Sessions has pulled a couple of real asshole moves that are the hallmark of someone being in Washington too long. He's more concerned with his personal appearance that's doing what is just.

If I were paranoid, I might think he's the establishments inside guy. Just checking the boxes but really focused on undermining the president.

The public statements are designed by Trump for effect. But i frankly fine no them distasteful and a distraction. There are better ways to skin that cat.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (zJ3L1)

114 Uhh CNN is reporting...

Thank God they don't have some sort of agenda to always be saying so and so is considering resigning!

I mean they've only been doing it since Trump took office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (4ErVI)

115 104 What can Tillerson (or anyone for that matter) do if State is dry rotted top to bottom? Ship the worst of the lot to remote locations of the compass - in conjunction with forced retirements - probably pencils out to less than fifteen percent of departmental careerists.

Posted by: 13times at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (WHVu+)

Can't Tillerson remove them for dereliction of duty?

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (XvbjR)

116 Hi, Country Boy.

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (s5Kql)

117 If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)

Wait for Congress to go into recess...

Fire Sessions....

Recess Appointment ... get a REAL asshole in there for ONE YEAR.

Clean... house...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 04:23 PM (NgKpN)

118 If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

++++

That's my conclusion as well.

I still think Trump is a world better than say Jeb Bush, but it really looks like incompetence and silly vanity is going to take this Administration down.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:24 PM (LHzKO)

119 the FL woman should sue for breach of contract but it would cost her more than the $2100 prize.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (mpXpK)


Nah. She needs to sue for a couple million. Which will generate so much bad attention and bad publicity that the company will be forced to knuckle under or lose half its customer base.

In the end she'll get to 'settle' for a couple hundred thousand.

This is war. It needs to fought as if it is one.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 04:24 PM (EgwCt)

120 Trump, flooding the zone.

Fuck Kat Von D yadayada and her horrible tattoos.


Posted by: dananjcon at July 25, 2017 04:24 PM (WLK0w)

121 He has to put someone like Bolton in. He knows how the system works, who is who, and how to make the changes necessary to implement Trump's plans and effect long term institutional change.

He also has the requisite honey badger don't give a fuck attitude.

He is also going to demand some autonomy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 25, 2017 04:24 PM (0wem/)

122 So let's see what's really going on to account for the sudden spike in hysteria?

Because usually it's something going on behind the scenes when we see the media turn it up to eleven.

NAFTA renegotiations? That might be a ways off yet.

Whatever it is, it's near and dear to the hearts of the globalists.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 04:24 PM (4ErVI)

123 Does this taste like Fermunda cheese to you?

Posted by: Mosquito on Ball Sack at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (4AVeu)

124 Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (UBzPO)

I actually disagree with that sentiment. Trump started a movement. Or more specifically, I think the movement kind of gelled around him. It was already starting to form when he came along. It just really crystallized around him and the election. I don't think he IS the movement by any means.
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.


Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (INRVS)

125 President Trump is considering resigning!!

We are known worldwide for our in depth and completely unbiased and factual reporting!!

Posted by: CNN at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (iVOAv)

126 Trump came from NYC, you think he'd be used to assholes. Hell, he invited assholes to his wedding.
Sure. But DC and NYC assholes are different breeds of asshole and the paradigm is different. In NYC real estate you can control whether an asshole working for you is doing his job, to a point. Thus controlling the scope and direction of asshole.

Probably applicable here too, but with some differences. Guy's got to adapt and find whatever levers he can - and the "normal" ones are not connected to gears that actually do anything constructive.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (eXSOZ)

127 If, and that's a big if, these things are true with Tillerson, it's an example of how you can't put CEO's of big organizations together and expect them to agree on everything.

And it would get loud at times.

I believe Tillerson has more experience negotiating with the Islamists and likely believes he knows more than Trump. And how much Trump is taking advice from his cabinet remains to be seen.

And as been pointed out, who can believe the MSM.

To that point, my bing page has a headline that says, 99% of former NFL players have CTE, according to study.

No, 99% of the 111 brains submitted by family members of players who died with dementia, mental issues, and suicides had CTE.

The study had that small of a sample. Not to be written off. But there is also a Penn State study just released of football players who played in HS in the 50s(yes, different game , BUT without as good protective equipment AND concussion protocol) and there was no difference in the rate of dementia, etc. between players and non players in that study.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (FggK5)

128 NO Bolton. Ugh! What the hell is everyone's fascination with this guy?!

NO Napolitano. Double Ugh! He hates Trump.

Posted by: squeakywheel at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (bPIyb)

129 Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.
==
In 10 years 10% of those voters will be dead.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (rm2Cc)

130 I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (A3edJ)

131 24 "The Iran deal belongs to Obama and the Democrats. Don't save them from it."

The problem is, the GOPe, lead by Sen. Bob Corker, is just as culpable as the Democrats regarding the Iran Deal. He and his cohort of establishment GOPe globalists handed Obama the Treaty Clause of the Constitution.

Posted by: WVinMN at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (WzYlo)

132
Sec of State Victor Davis Hanson.

Or Allen West.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mbhDw)

133 106 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J
++++

Wasn't that Tillerson?

The guy was not a show boater, loyal, and competent. Had no political aspirations to speak of.

And he ran Exon Mobil, which is a real job.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (LHzKO)

Agreed. Thing is, maybe Tillerson isn't the man for what needs to be done at State. Maybe Trump needs a total ass-kicker right now to put people on notice.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (XvbjR)

134 Paul the lesser is in love only with Paul the lessor.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (sf2BM)

135 100 The problems are the limitations on firing some and
on replacing others. He can't fire civil servants without cause. And,
most of the political appointees have to get confirmed through the
Senate. And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the
confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)


Congress just approved a new law a couple of weeks ago that makes it easier to fire government workers for cause.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mpXpK)

136 " Tillerson hasn't impressed me as especially good or especially bad. He's just a warm body filling a hole."

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Shep Smiff at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (ifORZ)

137 NO Bolton. Ugh! What the hell is everyone's fascination with this guy?!

NO Napolitano. Double Ugh! He hates Trump.
Posted by: squeakywheel at July




well, more importantly, what is your objection to Bolton?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (0wem/)

138 I actually disagree with that sentiment. Trump started a movement. Or more specifically, I think the movement kind of gelled around him. It was already starting to form when he came along. It just really crystallized around him and the election. I don't think he IS the movement by any means.
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.


Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (INRVS)

I wish I could agree with that...but if PDT falls I am not sure we can survive the aftermath. We just barely survived 8 years of Fredo...and we are still be choked by his deep state appointments, Fredocare, and Iran.

If PDT, it just might be the tipping point.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:27 PM (5y11N)

139 >>>I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party

What could go wrong?

Oh, right, everything.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (UCap9)

140
Wasn't Judith Exon JFK's girlfriend?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (mbhDw)

141 I would support Alan West for Secretary of State.

I think he has the experience and personality to get the job done right.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (4AVeu)

142 Joining us to share her in depth knowledge on this subject is Madame Secretary, Tea Leoni. Madame Secretary, welcome...

Posted by: This...is CNN at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (qJhUV)

143 "making the potential case for withholding certification of Iran at the next 90-day review of the nuclear deal"

Maybe also now a good time to remind ourselves of just how weird the terms of that deal by Obama and Kerry really were.

It ultimately comes down to this question: are the Iranians continuing their nuclear weapons development effort? And precisely how does that get determined? As Reagan once said in a different context, trust but verify.

The Senate, who used Bob Corker's facially unconstitutional enabling bill to grease the deal through without the usual two-thirds treaty vote, didn't get to discuss verification and validation. At all.

In fact, even Obama's top negotiators (led by Wendy Sherman, the former social worker who also handled the failed Nork nuke deal for Billy Jeff) weren't allowed to know anything at all about how verification would be handled.

Instead, all of that was contained in a "side annex" separately negotiated between Tehran and... the IAEA, instead of the USA. No one from the American side has any idea what specific measures and steps are in that protocol.

It's completely opaque. It relies entirely upon this international alphabet-soup agency to be a trusted broker, *and also* not to get fooled by Iranian subterfuges with centrifuges.

Plus, the IAEA themselves are hardly a bastion of objectivity. They've been regularly and plausibly accused of giving rogue states an easy go in the past. Quis custodiet?

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (ujwCG)

144 The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office.



Yeah. No.
Just like the TEA Party. Without Trump, there's just us. Sitting on blogs bitching.

Why Trump? Because he's 70 yrs old and he doesn't need the money. He is beholden to no one. He doesn't have to play nice with anyone.

Not too many others out there on our side that are in that position. And unless they are, they won't stick their necks out.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (Bd48Y)

145 How about Sec of State...RBG?

I mean she keeps telling us about the wonders of the laws of other countries right? Let her go out and learn about them on the federal dime...right?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (eSx+E)

146 >>I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party

I doubt this would do anything other than cause him to get even less support in Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

147 Zerohedge is reporting that Scaramucci has his first scalp, firing Asst Press Sec Michael Short

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (UBzPO)

148 In 10 years 10% of those voters will be dead.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (rm2Cc)

That's the thing - I don't think so. I think you're underestimating the demo, so to speak. That's what Trump or Trumpism or whatever is doing differently. It isn't just a monolithic party of old rich white conservatives. That's the myth the left wants you to believe.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (INRVS)

149 What could go wrong?

Oh, right, everything.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (UCap9)
Yeeeeaaahhh.... I think impeachment might be on the menu..

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (zSVEm)

150 After hearing him speak a few times, I did not think Tillersaurus Rex was cut out for this job. Same thing with Sessions. Rush had a good point today - maybe Trump was/is looking for "brawlers" who fight just like he does for what HE deems is important. Bringing in the Mooch is a good example of that. We need more brawlers. Less milquetoast.

Posted by: Poster Nutbag at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (EBS9U)

151 Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (INRVS)

Concur...

This all started with Perot and the reform party.... which was a very civilized movement...

They destroyed that movement... but the anger and people were still out there...

They became the TEA Party... which was less organized, and more populist... which got coopted and destroyed...

Which led to the Trump movement... which is populist, nationalist, and angry....

If Washington manages to destroy that movement? What comes next will be uglier....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (NgKpN)

152 I hear Hillary has some free time.

Posted by: regular joe at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (O50yS)

153 Is there any sources for any of this besides sources say?

No?

Then it's all lies.

Seriously, unless and until everyone stops repeating all of these stories, the press will never ever ever ever stop with their addiction to anonymous sources.

Starve the damn beast.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (mf5HN)

154 >>>And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the
confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

Biggest delay is on the Trump end. Nominating people.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (UCap9)

155 I think Trump should name Vladimir Putin as Secretary of State.

Just for the sake of variety.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (4AVeu)

156 Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (INRVS)

For both our sakes and the sakes of our kids, I hope your right. I am just not as optimistic...just mu nature I guess

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:31 PM (5y11N)

157 So who comes in?

Nikki Haley.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 04:31 PM (G0vdT)

158 "The problem is, the GOPe, lead by Sen. Bob Corker, is just as culpable as the Democrats regarding the Iran Deal."

Tom Cotton's hands are clean. He was the only member of the Republican Senate caucus to realize what a snafu this deal was, and to vote against it.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:31 PM (ujwCG)

159 "I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman
joke about Tillerson and can't."

You know we've come a long way,
it's no long pay to plaaa-aaa-aay,
so tell me, who is Secretary of Sta-a-a-aaa-a-a-aaaa--aaaate


Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (yqvys)

160 155 I think Trump should name Vladimir Putin as Secretary of State.

Just for the sake of variety.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (4AVeu)

And all press conferences should have Cyrillic subtitles....

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (zSVEm)

161 I nominate either Bill Maher or Steven Coal-burt to replace Rex.
They apparently know everything.

Posted by: gobagoo at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (A/saJ)

162 Seriously, unless and until everyone stops repeating all of these stories, the press will never ever ever ever stop with their addiction to anonymous sources.
=======
The press is never going to stop. No matter what we do.

Its not Like the Wash Post is run for a profit.

MSM is the billionaire boys club propaganda arm.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (mM5yD)

163 130
I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed
now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow
figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is
resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (A3edJ)
I think this may already be starting to happen. And like I said, I think it will happen with or without Trump leading it.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (INRVS)

164 "I would support Alan West for Secretary of State."

He voted the way the gopE wanted him to every time it counted for the American People gopE.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (sf2BM)

165 I was saying after Trump got elected that he should bring on John Bolton. I said that Mr. Tillerson's problem is that he doesn't understand the difference between a business deal and a deal that could wind up getting people killed. The Cult of Trump unleashed their wrath for questioning Trump's wisdom.

Well, well, well. Mr. Tillerson is less than impressive, as it turns out. I can't wait to hear the excuses that will be made for Mr. Trump for this one.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (UXukZ)

166 I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party
---
This +1000

He's got three years until he faces the voters again. Best to do it with a new party, with the gop having proven beyond all reasonable excuse, how utterly worthless they are.

Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 04:32 PM (3Liv/)

167 I know this is a dumb idea, but if you want to gum up the works on the Iran deal, do you nominate Joe Lieberman? You can fire him after he gets that job done.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 04:33 PM (j+dfT)

168 Nikki Haley has been a pleasant surprise in her position. A bright spot.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 04:33 PM (a0IVu)

169 Clearing baffles.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 04:33 PM (0pcwX)

170 157 So who comes in?

Nikki Haley.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 04:31 PM (G0vdT)



Allen West to UN ambassador.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:33 PM (mbhDw)

171 Declassify all of State's internal bullhockey surrounding the Iran 'no-paper' deal. Expose and embarrass Obama and Clinton's apparatchiks at State.

Posted by: 13times at July 25, 2017 04:33 PM (WHVu+)

172 Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

What's less than zero? With that announcement I would hope others in Congress that do support what he's trying to do and also frustrated with the GOP see that as a chance to bolt. If nothing is going to get done, let's rock this damn boat.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:34 PM (A3edJ)

173 Is there any sources for any of this besides sources say? Ask Ben Rhodes

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:34 PM (9TU00)

174
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.

I think you're wrong. Movements rarely survive without a dynamic leader

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 04:34 PM (lKyWE)

175 >>"I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman
joke about Tillerson and can't."

Oh baby it's a wild world
And it's hard to get by with a knife in your back

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 04:34 PM (/tuJf)

McConnell's Next Mysterious Obamacare Gambit: A "Skinny" Repeal of Just the Least Popular Parts of Obamacare?

It's not nothing, but it does seem to be very low-cal and unsatisfying substitute for what we were promised.


Republican senators are planning to pursue a "skinny" repeal of Obamacare if Tuesday's Senate votes to open debate on health care and pass the current GOP bill both fail.

The so-called "skinny" repeal would be a series of amendments to dispose of a few key components of the Affordable Care Act that Republicans have identified as being particularly burdensome, NBC News reports.

The first vote on Tuesday will be to open debate on the health care measure. Should that "motion to proceed" pass, the Senate will debate and vote on multiple approaches to the current health care bill.

...

The Senate would then move to vote on the current Senate replacement bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act. However, the BCRA includes newly added amendments from Sen. Ted Cruz (R, Texas) and Sen. Rob Portman (R, Ohio) that have not been scored by the Congressional Budget Office and would likely need 60 votes, rather than a simple majority of 50, to pass.

McCain's headed to Washington, and Mike Pence is standing by to break ties, for these votes.

But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."

#FakeNewsRepublicans Lisa Muffzinsky and Susan Collins have re-announced they will fight to keep Obamacare. If any other #FakeNewsRepublicans defect, they can't even have a debate on the question.

Posted by: Ace at 02:20 PM




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1 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (WmgTn)

2 Let's Repeal congress itself.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (DQ4Fv)

3 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (a0IVu)

4 1 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien


AIDS was caused by Reagan not mentioning AIDS in a speech in 1983!!!!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (DQ4Fv)

5 Good.
Fine.
Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.
And when the sky doesn't fall you and the dead don't start shambling through the streets you can go back and repeal another stretch.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

6 I want a half-decaf Vente repeal.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (DQ4Fv)

7 But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

Its obvious that their states will not remove these worthless piles of trash so what can the GOP do in congress about them? Do they really need to be in any committee of singificance? Do they really need to be given any kind of position or power? Do they really deserve any money at all in any campaigns? I mean there are ways to make people toe the line better, why aren't they being used? There is leverage that can be applied.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

8 I want a half-decaf Vente repeal."

With sprinkles.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (MINbv)

9 Collins, Murfluvsky

Cuckettes

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (ul9CR)

10 Second look at sending blankets filled with smallpox to every SJW???

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (DQ4Fv)

11 If you can't get a Republican to just repeal a few parts of ObamaCare, they might as well be replaced with Democrats.

If I lived in one of those states, I could see myself voting for the Democrat candidate.

We know they won't be beat in their respective primaries.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (LHzKO)

12 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.
Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (a0IVu)

Holdning my tongue

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (5y11N)

13
The closest thing that there is to immortality is a government bureaucracy. Especially since politicians feed from the trough of same.

Anything that reduces the size of the government and devolves power back to the people is axiomatically an enemy of the government - regardless of political party.

If this is not evident by now, then you (the royal you) are not paying attention.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mbhDw)

14 McKonehead can't get the job done because of all the RINOs and DIABLOS. Need to get rid of some of them in the primaries.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

15 C*cksuckers. The lot of them.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mcI77)

16 So, if this idea ever gets passed, liberals will be more pissed than ever, and little will actually change?

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (3myMJ)

17 It's unbelievable these 2 scrunts won't even vote to allow a bill to be debated.

That is pretty much the job description of a Senator.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (/tuJf)

18 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (LHzKO)

19 your choices:

socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)

Posted by: brak at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (5iU/N)

20 AIDS was caused by Reagan not mentioning AIDS in a speech in 1983!!!!

That's because he was too preoccupied with the CIA plan to invent crack and put it in the ghetto!

Posted by: tu3031 at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (qJhUV)

21 Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."


That's what they make capital hill police for. They need to dish out some hickory hair cuts.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (mpXpK)

22 19 your choices:

socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)
Posted by: brak at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (5iU/N)


There is another choice but decorum prohibits me from elucidating.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)

23 Repeal something, even if it's not everything. Momentum will help you go after other parts.

And let the traitors show their true colors.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (fKWf6)

24 I've had it with our so-called representatives.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (0mRoj)

25 I don't want tofu that tastes like steak.

I want a freakin' STEAK.

And a baked potato. Lots of sour cream too.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

26 But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

This isn't any sort of repeal, anyway, so they shouldn't have a problem with this.

And for those who were screaming about how this was a real repeal because it was "only phase 1" ... LOL. What sort of idiot thinks that there could ever possibly be a phase 2 to this bullshit?

BarkyCare is an affront to the Constitution and to America. It needs to be totally removed and burned to a crisp. The Senate needs to nuke the filibuster for BarkyCare's ACTUAL repeal and just undo the whole friggin anti-American, retarded, commie POS.

What they are straining to do, now, is just bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (rZ+mb)

27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

28 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.
===============
Indict, perp walk, federal penitentiary.

Posted by: Attorney General Darth Tits at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (C6xeQ)

29 McCain waiting to make his dramatic entrance back into the well of the Senate to cast the final vote.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (G0vdT)

30 Good.
Fine.
Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.
And when the sky doesn't fall you and the dead don't start shambling through the streets you can go back and repeal another stretch.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)



I was just going to say, sorry to destroy what little HQ cred I have but when we keep screaming do something, well, we have to be supportive when something is done, even if it is not everything we would like it to be.

Is it everything? No. But it is something and good on the Senate for doing at least that.

The Horde is welcome to throw this in my face when this turns out to be all that's done and it blows up Yellowstone caldera style.


But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.


I read an article by Roger L. Simon (the good one) about the Senators holding up doing anything on Obamacare and it was fascinating because he was all butthurt about how the people holding up everything were Cruz and Paul and Lee and how the reasonable ones in the Senate wanted to work to get a replacement passed. It was very interesting to read an exactly opposite perception from mine.

It was also a good reminder that there are many people on "our side" who do favor a replacement approach and that, hey, maybe both sides need to compromise a bit.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (mf5HN)

31 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???

If Obamacare is repealed they'll live happier, healthier lives.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (IZPn8)

32
Murkowsky and Collins need to visit Charlie Gard and his parents.

Or have Malach ha Mawis visit them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (mbhDw)

33
Overlord Kabuki Mcshubuki Bukakke doesn't even buy it. They will protect the govt leviathan at all costs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (r+sAi)

34 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them
-- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing
grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)


*Note to self: get on zombie's good side*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PY9jH)

35 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.
Posted by: publix



By their mish. Always about the feelz.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (Bd48Y)

36 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Uhhhhhh, cookie, oh Grand Undead One?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (RD7QR)

37 Two Scoops shamed the senate by bringing in real Americans whose CHILDREN are suffering due to ACA

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (g+Dix)

38 35 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.
Posted by: publix



By their mish. Always about the feelz.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (Bd48Y)


Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (mbhDw)

39 Is around now when we all thought we'd be tired of winning?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (UCap9)

40 And the Republican Party goes the way of the Whigs....

You see... historically, the Whigs were one of the two dominant parties, but did not listen to their Base on a very important issue...

They were replaced as a party, within a very few years... using 1850's technology...

How much faster can we do it today?

Posted by: Don Quixote at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

41 36 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Uhhhhhh, cookie, oh Grand Undead One?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (RD7QR)


Will Abi Wilkinson please pick up the green courtesy grenade?....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mbhDw)

42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.



So much for committee in the senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

43 Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?




What has Palin voted on lately?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Bd48Y)

44 Has anyone actually listened to Collins answer a question from reporters lately? She sounds like a washed up cigarette laden Hollywood actress, complete with raspy , shaky voice that shakes along with her head.

She's been in the Senate since 1997. She has been a strong supporter of the Democrats on almost every issue. And it shocks me she is only 64.

At some point, voters need to take into account their representatives actual physical and mental deficiencies.
I wouldn't trust Collins to be able to under stand the directions on a can of cat food.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (FggK5)

45 Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

*Note to self: get on zombie's good side*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PY9jH)


Daria wouldn't hurt nobody.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Niu5G)

46 the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins

-
Didja see Collins' open mike moment?

"'I swear, [the Office of Management and Budget] just went through and whenever there was 'grant,' they just X it out, ' Collins says. 'With no measurement, no thinking about it, no metrics, no nothing. It's just incredibly irresponsible.'

"'Yes, ' Reed replies. 'I think - I think he's crazy,' apparently referring to the president. 'I mean, I don't say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.'

"'I'm worried,' Collins replies."

Yeah, boy. Cutting spending is coo coo bananas.

The "Reed" in question is Donk Senator Jack Reed.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Nwg0u)

47 Still not tired of winning.

Hillary would already have the names and addresses of everyone commenting on this site. And we would all be receiving notices of IRS audits for MANY prior years.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (C6xeQ)

48 Colon Malignancy voted against proceeding.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (tbOMB)

49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)

50 29 McCain waiting to make his dramatic entrance back into the well of the Senate to cast the final vote.



Is his fat daughter still on FNC?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (mcI77)

51 Step Right Up
by Tom Waits

Step right up, step right up, step right up,
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
Insurance plans in all colors, one size fits all
No muss, no fuss, no spills, you're tired of dying in the emergency room
Fifty percent off original price, skip the middle man
Don't settle for less
How do we do it? how do we do it? Volume, volume, turn up the volume
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate
Don't be caught with your drawers down,
Don't be caught with your drawers down
You can step right up, step right up

That's right, Obamacare filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair, it gets rid of embarrassing age spots,
It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master,
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (DQ4Fv)

52 "McCain's headed to Washington."

ISWYDT

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (tbOMB)

53 38 Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (mbhDw)


Palin has been a consistent conservative. The other two not so much. especially Scrunt Collins.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mpXpK)

54 If the two scrunts won't go for this - they aint going for full repeal.

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (xOBRH)

55 49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)


He's an untrustworthy dickweed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)

56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)

57
The repubs can barely pass (or not) a proceed to debate vote when they have all the majorities and people believe they are going to pass an actual bill?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (r+sAi)

58 The young lady on the Senate floor in a miniskirt looks very out of place.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (3myMJ)

59 52 "McCain's headed to Washington."

ISWYDT
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (tbOMB)


My friendzh, you have nothing to fear with Benedict Arnold in your Army.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (mbhDw)

60 Hillary would already have the names and addresses of everyone commenting on this site. And we would all be receiving notices of IRS audits for MANY prior years.

Ace would probably be in police custody. I'm not even joking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)

61 Kill the bill, don't kill us...

I would have replied

"well yes, we are trying to kill the Obamacare bill, if it goes further, it'll do to you what the state did to Charlie Gard."

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (xOBRH)

62 The plan after those two votes is for senators to proceed to votes on a series of amendments to create what leadership has called a "skinny" repeal, which is a watered-down version of repeal with nothing to replace it. The goal would be to eliminate Obamacare's individual mandate penalty, the employer mandate penalty, and the tax on medical devices. A broader repeal would also have ended Medicaid's expansion, get rid of or replace the Obamacare subsidies that help people purchase insurance and repeal more - or all - of Obamacare's taxes.

++++

That isn't as much as we had hoped for, but if the skinny repeal passes, that would still be an improvement.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (pvjTE)

63 Make'em vote and then release the votes publically on every outlet repeatedly (b/c most folks are too lazy to click on the Senate webpage where the votes are tallied) and remove them from all committees until they change parties and then vote their asses out. I just dropped an email to my senators (one is a gimmedat, the other a Repub) stating that I'm voting for their opponents in the upcoming election cycle... Enough of this nonsense, you fuckers work for me on my behalf not the other way around. Kiss my everloving ass...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (lwKRt)

64 He's an untrustworthy dickweed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)


What in the Hell did I ever do to you ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Niu5G)

65 socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)

-
Socialism forever!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Nwg0u)

66
Senator McCain?

* pulls himself back in seat and pulls 'eject' handle *

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (EgwCt)

67 Ace would probably be in police custody. I'm not even joking.
======
Nope, and the MSM would explain it as "KABOOM" terrorist website takedown.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (C6xeQ)

68 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Be careful what you wish for.... for history will Judge you....

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (NgKpN)

69 56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)


My fear is that it's just paper shuffling and bukkake-kabuki. That which the government has seized for itself will not be relinquished. Sad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

70 The young lady on the Senate floor in a miniskirt looks very out of place.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (3myMJ)

Remember how Ryan was scorched for enforcing the Congressional Dress Code?

It's being revamped, just wait until the new one comes out.

Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)

71 Betrayal is our greatest challenge to overcome. One thing you got to say about Democrats - they don't have to worry about betrayal on their side.


What's that saying about good people losing all confidence while the craziest are full of passionate zeal. I'm sure there's a poet somewhere who could put it better.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FJr2+)

72 64 He's an untrustworthy dickweed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)

What in the Hell did I ever do to you ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Niu5G)


Look at his voting record and ACU score.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

73 @42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.


So much for committee in the senate.
--------------------

I think the press will be conflicted on this bit of news. It's a Republican in an embarrassing open mic moment, so the gut reaction of the press will be to report it. But she's in the middle of defending one of the sacred cows of the press, so they'll also want to avoid embarrassing her.

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (Q6qiA)

74 To be fair to Republicans, what % are really getting in the way here.

I think he only have 52, so all it takes is 2 or 3 and the whole thing goes down.

Collins
Murkowsi
Capito

And the whole repeal is dead.

So if 90% are doing the right thing, I'm willing to at least give some benefit of the doubt.

We need to stop electing RINOs and filter these clowns in the primary.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (LHzKO)

75 Again with the croc hate.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (mcI77)

76 55
49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)





He's an untrustworthy dickweed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)


His ACU rating is only 84 so he is no conservative.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (mpXpK)

77 Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)
It would be like elementary schools - wear your pajama to work!

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (a0IVu)

78 >>Has anyone actually listened to Collins answer a question from reporters lately? She sounds like a washed up cigarette laden Hollywood actress, complete with raspy , shaky voice that shakes along with her head.

She's got some speech impediment, sounded like that for a long time. She's not senile, she's a garden variety asshole.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (/tuJf)

79 69 56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)


My fear is that it's just paper shuffling and bukkake-kabuki. That which the government has seized for itself will not be relinquished. Sad.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

So would bukkake-kabuki involve lots of elaborately dressed Japanese actors engaging in stylized gestures and then...you know...well, use your imagination.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (RD7QR)

80 Christopher R Taylor: "...There is leverage that can be applied."

And it won't be. There's Kabuki Theater to sell.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (H8S+R)

81 Like everything else in DC, what should take 90 seconds drags on and on.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3myMJ)

82 An Attorney General vigorously prosecuting existing anti-trust and restraint of trade laws solves 90% of the problems in our healthcare system.

Just saying...

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (AEpSb)

83 I don't understand why Trump doesn't fight dirty here. Dems want the lawl? Fine. Let them keep Obamacare but give it to them good and hard:

Impose the Cadillac tax. Don't allow it as a business expense.

Impose the taxes on medical equipment

Doc fix? Fuck that. Full steam ahead.

Impose all the fines on people without health care. max them out.

Drop all insurance company subsidies.

In short - enforce the law to the letter of the law.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (UgF8H)

84 What is this, like ordering a diet Coke to go with your triple cheese burger, extra large fries, apple pie and hot fudge sundae????

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (NOIQH)

85 Hole in the head McCain just walked in.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (8iiMU)

86 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable"
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Dear, do you have any mirrors in your own home?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (C6xeQ)

87 McCain must be coming in.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3myMJ)

88 Oh God, giving mcCain a standing ovation.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (G0vdT)

89 Susan "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!" Collins can go do something in a very hot place.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (CMbMd)

90 Keep the bill except for the icky stuff then get blamed when Obamacare continues failing because you removed _____, and then when (R) voters give up and the (D)s are back in power they add everything back and then some. (D)s are happy, (R)s are back in their comfortable minority positions, and the only group getting f*cked is the middle class again.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (JTMqu)

91 @63 Make'em vote and then release the votes publically on every outlet repeatedly (b/c most folks are too lazy to click on the Senate webpage where the votes are tallied) and remove them from all committees until they change parties and then vote their asses out. I just dropped an email to my senators (one is a gimmedat, the other a Repub) stating that I'm voting for their opponents in the upcoming election cycle... Enough of this nonsense, you fuckers work for me on my behalf not the other way around. Kiss my everloving ass...
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I doubt being forced to switch parties would hurt Collins. Didn't Snow - the other Lady from Maine - get replaced by a Dem?

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (Q6qiA)

92 Now they got to 50 votes yes, and now the pussy Dems are voting. One voted present...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (8iiMU)

93 McCain: aye

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (3myMJ)

94 I would hope that the home state voters for Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo would oblige their request for *replacement* by replacing them.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (NOIQH)

95 Whew, Johnson is a yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (G0vdT)

96 94 I would hope that the home state voters for Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo would oblige their request for *replacement* by replacing them.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (NOIQH)


I hope PDT remembers this. Especially in the next election cycle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (mbhDw)

97
We need to stop electing RINOs and filter these clowns in the primary.





Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (LHzKO)

--------------------------------------------
Did that to Murkowski without effect once already. She just ran write-in and won the general.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (SsblQ)

98 Party of no is voting.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (3myMJ)

99 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.

"A thousand cuts" ... LOL. If the GOP doesn't actually repeal this un-Constitutional POS then the best they will manage to do is two or three paper cuts, of course promising a coming thousand slashes when they finally control both houses of Congress and the Presidency ...

If they pass anything regarding BarkyCare it is only going to be one, single bill, and that's it. THey will never do anything else. So, this is it. This will be the end of anything the GOP turds ever even say about BarkyCare. This is the end of their movement on anything BarkyCare related. So, you had better be satisfied with these two paper cuts to BarkyCare (which will be immediately reversed the minute the Dems even get close to taking the House or Senate) because there will never be any other action by the Vichy GOP turds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (rZ+mb)

100 >>I doubt being forced to switch parties would hurt Collins. Didn't Snow - the other Lady from Maine - get replaced by a Dem?

More or less. King is an Independent but he caucues with the Dems.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (/tuJf)

101 95 Whew, Johnson is a yes.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (G0vdT)


Vic:

84.2%

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (mbhDw)

102 >>Oh God, giving mcCain a standing ovation.

*mumbles* "....sea otter gumbo!" *mumbles*

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (NOIQH)

103 Does Amazon sell dicks? Because I want to gift a bag of them to McConnell.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mcI77)

104 Shut up, Shep.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (7uYFy)

105 You wanted: red meat
You'd settle for: chicken
You'll get: tofu

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (ifORZ)

106 Collins has an ACU rating of 23. There are Democrats with higher rating than that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mpXpK)

107 104 Shut up, Shep.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (7uYFy)


You have a remote on the TV, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mbhDw)

108 I've lost all respect for the Republican Party. Not only as politicians but as men/women, in the sense that I have contempt for anyone who refuses to fight back when the other side does nothing but play dirty.


Where is your fucking pride, if nothing else?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (FJr2+)

109 If McCain votes yes than this proves he hates persons of color, gays, and lesbians !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (WmgTn)

110 calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable"
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and if someone said of Collins "2/10" or "would not bang" I am sure she would be the first to call them out for Gendered Insults, Harassment, Misogyny, and maybe Threats to boot.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (CrPLf)

111 J.J. Sefton: "Anything that reduces the size of the government and devolves power back to the people is axiomatically an enemy of the government - regardless of political party."

This cannot be repeated enough. It's why a lifelong, worldly businessman who isn't a politician strikes so much fear in the Federal system. Trump has to produce; the DC cretins merely parasitize.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (H8S+R)

112 82
An Attorney General vigorously prosecuting existing anti-trust and
restraint of trade laws solves 90% of the problems in our healthcare
system.



Just saying...

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (AEpSb)

Yeah!

*pointing at healthcare*


Posted by: MSM and Tech at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (tbOMB)

113 109 If McCain votes yes than this proves he hates persons of color, gays, and lesbians !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (WmgTn)


Don't we all?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (mbhDw)

114 Hole in the head McCain just walked in.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (8iiMU)

At least he's walking now. Eventually, he will be wheeled in, then at some point, he'll be wheeled in on a gurney. I believe the last legislation Ted Kennedy signed was only a week or two before he died.

Robert Byrd used to sit in his wheelchair in the Senate, head on his chest drooling. He would have an aid point to where he would sign his vote and he would scratch a mark on it.

You know, the Senate. A deliberative body our forefathers did not design to be elected nor to function in this manner.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (FggK5)

115 McCain's symptoms include a negative affect on one's judgement. He should not be allowed to have a say on anything to do with governance.

McCain should not be allowed to have a say on anything.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cjVcY)

116 the republican party has perfected the art of fund raising on "next year".

If they actually do what you want now, they are convinced they will get no money from you ever again. Likewise they do nothing for you and tell you they will get it done next time, but please make a payment now. The republican's are your basic contractors from hell scenario.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (Lutdd)

117 a least Collins doesnt vote like a 2/10.

she votes like a 2.3/10.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (CrPLf)

118 "I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them"

I don't have enough juice to get myself appointed to anything higher up than the Nagging Discomfort Panels.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (ujwCG)

119 I'm curious. What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

Posted by: Guy who has had it at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cOANc)

120 >>"A thousand cuts" ... LOL. If the GOP doesn't actually repeal this un-Constitutional POS then the best they will manage to do is two or three paper cuts, of course promising a coming thousand slashes when they finally control both houses of Congress and the Presidency ...

They can't completely repeal it. That has always been a lie. Even the vote they took last year which some people keep screaming for them to vote on again wasn't a complete repeal.

You can't do a full repeal using budget reconciliation. No matter how many times people keep saying they can just repeal it with 51 votes the facts don't change.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (/tuJf)

121 Now he Senate is presumably looking for Pence to break the tie.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (8iiMU)

122 Just great.

The Stupid Party is going to try to "fix" Obamacare, get their dirty fingerprints all over it, then be in a position to take the blame when it continues to suck and inevitably crashes and burns in a year or two.

Either pass a clean repeal (like you did back when you knew Obama would veto it), or leave it alone to die on it's own.

Dumb-asses.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (tu3iY)

123 So if 90% are doing the right thing, I'm willing to at least give some benefit of the doubt.

See my above post on leverage. If they won't put pressure on and punish these leftist twits, they're all to blame. How can you take them seriously about their commitment to getting this done if they won't fight to make it happen?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

124 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?
Posted by: Guy who has had it at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cOANc)

WWII.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (3myMJ)

125 Susan Collins is a Zero.

Higher Condemnation I simply do not know how to give.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (Niu5G)

126
McCain can do better than that. Nothing adds to the sympathy quotient quite like a robotic chair and voice synthesizer.

Posted by: Stephen Halking at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (EgwCt)

127 They can't completely repeal it. That has always been a lie. Even the vote they took last year which some people keep screaming for them to vote on again wasn't a complete repeal.

You can't do a full repeal using budget reconciliation. No matter how many times people keep saying they can just repeal it with 51 votes the facts don't change.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (/tuJf)


They could nuke the filibuster for the full repeal.

The GOP turds have no excuse. None.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (rZ+mb)

128 I can guarantee that if a bill is eventually passed, everyone will hate it.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (3myMJ)

129 All the Senators going up to McCain to welcome him back.

McCain: "Who are all these wacko birds?

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (G0vdT)

130 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

I think we're still paying a fee on telephone bills to pay for putting up telegraph lines in the 1800s.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (39g3+)

131 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them...
I have actual experience with this type of work!

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (gbWkA)

132 89 Susan "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!" Collins can go do something in a very hot place.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (CMbMd)

I don't want her here in Florida. Send her to Riyadh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (0mRoj)

133 126
McCain can do better than that. Nothing adds to the sympathy quotient quite like a robotic chair and voice synthesizer.

Posted by: Stephen Halking at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (EgwCt)


Piker.

Posted by: Captain Christopher Pike at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (tu3iY)

134 125 Susan Collins is a Zero.

Higher Condemnation I simply do not know how to give.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (Niu5G)

Agreed. Bob Dole would get too drunk to get it up before she looked good.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (RD7QR)

135 See my above post on leverage. If they won't put pressure on and punish
these leftist twits, they're all to blame. How can you take them
seriously about their commitment to getting this done if they won't
fight to make it happen?



The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (FJr2+)

136 All it takes to repeal is pass a law stating that the ACA sunsets in 2 years. That's not a budget issue, its just a law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)

137 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (Nwg0u)

138 If this goes to debate get the Congressional money trough filled to the brim. The payoffs will be epic.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (mcI77)

139 Socialism forever!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Nwg0u)

Mongo like Socialism

Posted by: Colin at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (EcgLJ)

140 If you are follwing on Fox News, switch to FBN. You won't need to hear Shep.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (lIZQs)

141 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.
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That's what I always did.

Posted by: joe biden at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (mUgpF)

142 Collins, Murkowsi, and Capito are beards for the chameleon commies.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (cjVcY)

143 John McCain will be back next year as Captain Christopher Pike in the chair with the little blinking light.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (gbWkA)

144 These Senators . . . they really don't like making tough decisions.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (+YumX)

145 talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel,

Hasbro. Previously Kenner, but Hasbro bought Kenner.

You may be thinking of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, or possibly Hot Wheels.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's earwig at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (u0s1P)

146 ThePrimordialOrderedPair: "...because there will never be any other action by the Vichy GOP turds."

Yep. Another political party will form de novo to reform healthcare to free market standards before the GOP touches this turd again. IOW, it ain't happenin'.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (H8S+R)

147 I agree Republicans at this point just need to do SOMETHING in the right direction.

We clearly don;t have the votes for some perfect bill that accomplishes everything.

Collins, Capito, and Murkowski won't even allow a repeal bill to be debated.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (LHzKO)

148 "Did that to Murkowski without effect once already. She just ran write-in and won the general."

It's awfully hard to win Alaska on an anti-pork platform. Which is what her challenger was attempting in the general.

Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Morecokeski is all pork, all the time, stack 'em deep and sell 'em cheap. And hasn't ever even sneezed in the direction of anticorruption efforts.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (ujwCG)

149 *lol at topic*

Aaand, at the same time, they're trying to privatize the VA.

---

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"Congressional leaders have continually promised that they have no intent to privatize the VA health care system and do not intend to gradually erode VA's ability to provide care in favor of sending veterans to private sector doctors. VA cannot be everything to everyone and private sector doctors must be used to supplement VA doctors when VA facilities are too far away or appointment wait times are too long. However, the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on S.114, which would ignore the needs of the VA health care system and use funds from VA programs to "pay for" private sector care."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (s5Kql)

150 The obamacare funding bill was passed with reconciliation. So all the have to do is kill funding for it with reconciliation.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (mpXpK)

151 Senate votes to open debate on ObamaCare repeal

http://nyp.st/2tHVVbD

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (vBeA5)

152 a few key components of the Affordable Care Act that Republicans have identified as being particularly burdensome

That's nice.

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (2z74n)

153 >>The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.


And they always renegotiate a "deal" so that they eventually get 100% of what they want. And then *still* find time to knife the Republicans in the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (NOIQH)

154 >>They could nuke the filibuster for the full repeal.

>>The GOP turds have no excuse. None.

They aren't going to nuke it for all legislation and even if they did they wouldn't have the votes for a full repeal.

It's not the entire GOP, it's the same 3 of 4 people who have been fucking this up since Day 1.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (/tuJf)

155 Feds Dole Out $3 Million To Fight "Microaggressions" In Science Fields.

-WZ

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (mcI77)

156 Is Trump going to have a presser with LeBron?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (lIZQs)

157 Honestly a bunch of headless chickens walking to Chick Fil a then Colon and Myflukupkowsky

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (zJ3L1)

158 All it takes to repeal is pass a law stating that the ACA sunsets in 2 years. That's not a budget issue, its just a law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

+++++

You forgot the majority in the Senate voting for it.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (LHzKO)

159 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.
==============

McCain is going to vote with that spider web ganglia blowing the synapses in his brain.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (cjVcY)

160 McCain's symptoms include a negative affect on one's judgement. He should not be allowed to have a say on anything to do with governance.

McCain should not be allowed to have a say on anything.

-
He's Mad Max Waters level crazy.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (Nwg0u)

161 It's going to be hilarious when McCain suddenly votes or comments in a pro-conservative, pro-Trump way and all the Smart People start suddenly demanding he be removed from his seat because his condition influences his cognitive ability and decision making skills.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (JTMqu)

162 Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (ujwCG)

--------------------------------------------

The clean pork platform ?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (SsblQ)

163 Does McCain's tumor get an extra vote?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (UBzPO)

164 It's awfully hard to win Alaska on an anti-pork platform. Which is what her challenger was attempting in the general.

Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Morecokeski is all pork, all the time, stack 'em deep and sell 'em cheap. And hasn't ever even sneezed in the direction of anticorruption efforts.
Posted by: torquewrench

______

The whole "pork busters" thing that McCain championed really was stupid and was like .01% of our budget.

I would have gladly traded some pork in Alaska to change out Murkowski.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (LHzKO)

165 Collins and Murkowski voted NO.

Pence provided 51st vote.

Probably scripted vote.

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (vBeA5)

166 "What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?"

The former Civil Aeronautics Board.

During the Reagan years.

That's what the "Reagan Revolution" came to. Arriving inside the Beltway in 1981 while swearing to decertify and defund the Departments of Education and Energy. Leaving D.C. eight years later with the tiny scalp of the CAB.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (ujwCG)

167 It's not the entire GOP, it's the same 3 of 4 people who have been fucking this up since Day 1.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (/tuJf)


It's the whole GOP, save a couple. It's Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and the rest of the idiots. It's pretty much the whole bunch of them.

They're a bunch of lying shit-stains who suck donkey shlong in their off-time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (rZ+mb)

168 John McCain is a fucking traitor and he makes me fucking sick.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (jjaLl)

169 "Susan Collins" is one of those names McCain struggles with, straining the "S"s through his back teeth with his jaw clenched.

I think that's why the North Vietnamese beat him.

He was actually trying to tell them the Navy's code words -- Sassafrass, Sasquatchawan, Supersilious, Sausalito -- but the dumbass commies couldn't understand a damned thing he was saying.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (4AVeu)

170 Can someone smarter than me explain if the congress can pass a bill that says it's legal to sell health insurance across state lines, and somehow override all the stupid stuff that has to be in insurance policies, like acupuncture?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (Ri/rl)

171 All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (RD7QR)

172 somewhere there is a clip of McCain singing Bomb Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann.

the man has been a loon for years.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (CrPLf)

173 McCain reading a statement and making sense.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (3myMJ)

174 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (39g3+)

Actually, the federal government kills some 100,000 carnivores every year under the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) Wildlife Services program.

Posted by: Colin at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (EcgLJ)

175 Enough blathering on about high-minded concepts. Just cast your vote for this farce already.

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (MxEKc)

176 Nancy Sinatra is dead.

Exit to "Boots Are Made for Walking"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (4AVeu)

177 He's Mad Max Waters level crazy.

Loving living nectar of bees of pollen and butterflies run amok, Garbage pink composition solely bags speak deodorant. Arrrrgh!

Posted by: Sen John McCain, Esq at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (eytER)

178 168 John McCain is a fucking traitor and he makes me fucking sick.

I would like to add to this but I don't want to be banned.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (mcI77)

179 I wouldn't trust Collins to be able to under stand the directions on a can of cat food.
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Shit. And all these years I thought it was food made out of cats.

Posted by: Susan Collins at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (vg8iE)

180 I only heard about a minute but this sounds a lot like a farewell speech by McCain

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (UBzPO)

181 The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.

Exactly, when they want something done, Dem leadership will use the leverage they have: poor committees, no funding, lower priority for their legislation, tabling what they want done, etc. GOP seems to know none of this. No matter what a reprehensible piece of trash you are, if you have seniority, well you get the power even if its directly opposed to the party's platform and intent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (39g3+)

182
Where is your fucking pride, if nothing else?
Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (FJr2+)


If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assissnated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (lKyWE)

183 Now we get 20 hours of debate with amendments. Somebody go to to the floor and get Murcokesky her blow.

How you got against the motion to proceed is mind boggling. They should beat those two idiots over the head with that vote.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (zJ3L1)

184 Can someone smarter than me explain if the congress can pass a bill that says it's legal to sell health insurance across state lines, and somehow override all the stupid stuff that has to be in insurance policies, like acupuncture?

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

185 Does McCain's tumor get an extra vote?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM


Obligatory:

It's not a tumah!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (p+Wdc)

186 McCain just dissed everybody on our side that is barley keeping this country from sliding into tyranny. Screw him

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (MxEKc)

187 I only heard about a minute but this sounds a lot like a farewell speech by McCain
===========

Just Kiddin' Psych!!!

Posted by: john mcCain at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (JUgNk)

188 Oh FFS, shut up already and sit down.

"We're getting nothing done my friendshs, we're GETTING NOTHING DONE!"

Yeah, and you are it idiot helping it not get done, asshole.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (8iiMU)

189 Add a bunch more welfare to it but make it unconstitutional as f*ck, get the (D)s on board, and then send it to the SCOTUS to strike down.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (JTMqu)

190 "And they always renegotiate a "deal" so that they eventually get 100% of what they want. And then *still* find time to knife the Republicans in the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (NOIQH) "
*********************************************


In an argument with a Dem about a treaty we did not honor: He said a treaty, a contract, is the beginning of negotiation not the end.

That's the way they are trained. That is who they are.
Nibbling commie cockroaches.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (cjVcY)

191 McCain just insulted half of America, the half that voted for Trump.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (G0vdT)

192 Leaving D.C. eight years later with the tiny scalp of the CAB.


Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (ujwCG)
--------------------------------------------------
Due to the 1978 deregulation bill.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (SsblQ)

193
McCain reading a statement and making sense.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (3myMJ)


There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (EgwCt)

194 Can't we do like a "cornhusker kickback" to places like Alaska and Maine where nobody lives anyway?


It would be worth it just to get the 99% of other people off Obamacare.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (LHzKO)

195 so...keeping Obamacare is bipartisan thanks to these traitorous bishes.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (AU4SY)

196 176
Nancy Sinatra is dead.



Exit to "Boots Are Made for Walking"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (4AVeu)


That was Sinatra's wife Barbra.

http://tinyurl.com/y94t7rg3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

197 My bad. Barbara Sinatra has died. Not Nancy.

Barbara was Frank's wife.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (4AVeu)

198 I would have gladly traded some pork in Alaska to change out Murkowski.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (LHzKO)


I been trying to give away some of this pork my entire adult life.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (Niu5G)

199 This is going to be amendmentpalooza. Each side will game certain amendments to put their opponents on the record for certain positions. It's election fodder time.

Weeeeeeeeee!!

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (zJ3L1)

200 It's been a while since we've had Cocaine Bear. If we're going to talk about Lisa Morecokeski then we need Cocaine Bear.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

201
If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assissnated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.
=============
You need to send your resume to the Trump Communications Director I hear they are looking for somebody.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (Lutdd)

202 I'll take a half-caff skinny soy latte with wings.

Posted by: Hipster GOPe Doofus at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (ctuyM)

203 Nancy Sinatra is dead.

Didn't someone on the ONT say they got in a Twitter argument with her?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (AM1GF)

204 Hey- ho.. I am ready for a new Party... anybody else? I have a couple of ideas about what it should be. It may be time now...

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (zSVEm)

205

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (Ri/rl)

206 You forgot the majority in the Senate voting for it.

I was dumb enough to think a bill can only pass if the majority votes for it regardless of which house of congress.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (39g3+)

207 Barbara was Frank's wife.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (4AVeu)

While he was screwing half of Hollywood and making a fool of himself chasing Ava Gardner.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (UBzPO)

208 POTATO SALAD!

Posted by: Johnny Mac at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (H8S+R)

209 I was wrong. It's Barbara Sinatra who died. Not Nancy.

I ban myself.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (4AVeu)

210 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)

211 John McCain needs to go, nobody listening to this likes the guy. People are sick of politicians like him. Nobody wants politicians "working together"... they just want them out of their lives.

That's why they got Trump, and they still don't understand it.

We need more Kid Rock... less John McCain.

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xOBRH)

212
All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist


How did it get there?

Posted by: Coleman Francis at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

213 Frank's first wife, Nancy...IS still alive.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (7uYFy)

214 "I ban myself."

Pfff. who does that on THIS blog?!

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (CrPLf)

215 210 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)


Whew... fortunately, I show no signs of that...

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (zSVEm)

216 Funny how McBrain can sound very conservative when he wants to. Like now, and six months before election time.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (8iiMU)

217 Same as always. Nothing but kabukake. Again.

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (zLDYs)

218 McCain's employing some rather..... creepy vocal tones on what the speechwriter marked as stress points...... Seems like he read it as "stroke points", because that's what it sounds like he's having.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (jjaLl)

219 I never understood the Nancy thing. Did he name his daughter after her mother? Is that like Nancy Jr?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (UBzPO)

220 It's been a while since we've had Cocaine Bear.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM


I'm always happy to help with clever mathematical pick-up lines on the Patient Bear threads.

Posted by: Patient Mathematical Bear at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (ctuyM)

221 By making sense I simply meant he is able to read his statement without stumbling or getting lost.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (3myMJ)

222 If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (7uYFy)

223 Nancy Sinatra:

http://en.mediamass. net/ people/
nancy-sinatra/deathhoax.html

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (cjVcY)

224 There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl
++++

Not to my knowledge, unless you want to end federalism and state's rights.

If you offer insurance to a state resident, the state law has certain "rights" that drive the price of insurance up.

And with ObamaCare, a whole bunch of new federal mandates got added on top of that.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (LHzKO)

225 Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."

Embrace the power of 'and'.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (xAvrH)

226 I never understood the Nancy thing. Did he name his daughter after her mother? Is that like Nancy Jr?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (UBzPO)

Yes. His first wife was Nancy Barbato....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (7uYFy)

227 212
All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist

How did it get there?
Posted by: Coleman Francis at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

These are all just random sentences, folks.

Posted by: Mike Nelson at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (RD7QR)

228 Nothing is crazier than Mia Farrow marrying Frank Sinatra (for like 10 minutes). . . and then marrying Woody Allen (a.k.a. Soon Yi's Daddy/Husband).

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (4AVeu)

229 If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assassinated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.

If you don't have a spine to begin with, then being frightened is not going to grow it in you.

then send it to the SCOTUS to strike down.

"Looks constitutional to me!"
-Chief Justice Roberts

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (39g3+)

230 Maybe this vote will help spur on states ratifying for a convention. It's pretty close now, IIRC.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (cjVcY)

231 209 I was wrong. It's Barbara Sinatra who died. Not Nancy.

I ban myself.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot /i]

OK, now you must put "FAKE NEWS" in your user nick.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

232 Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)


*ouch*

That describes it, yeah - that works. But that term dates to 2009. I was exposed to a different term in the mid 90's. So many beers ago.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (EgwCt)

233 Unitalic

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

235 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (mcI77)

236 If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....

He doesn't strike me as a fighter, given his life history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)

237 Shut up Shemp.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

238 I saw Terminal Lucidity open up for Queensryche in 1989.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (7uYFy)

239 Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)


And the ACTUAL job of the feral government is to make a law that makes regular the interstate commerce of that product. The feral government actually has the responsibility to fix that problem - not to take control of health insurance markets but to work it out so that interstate commerce is possible and fluid. That is their ACTUAL Constitutional task.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (rZ+mb)

240 OK, now you must put "FAKE NEWS" in your user nick.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)
____________________________

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (4AVeu)

241 205

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (Ri/rl)

++++

Sure, they could. Interstate commerce clause. I don't think they should, though. Allow insurance to be sold across state line, yes. But, I don't want the feds completely owning health insurance. That's a big part of what Obamacare is. Let the states make their own laws.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (FUu/Z)

242 234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

Hook up the morphine folks, we're done here.

Posted by: McCain's doctor at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (RD7QR)

243 >>>>Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.



I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those
things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The
burdensome state mandates will still be there.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)



There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?
.
.
.Yep, comply with the provisions of the new law allowing interstate health insurance policies (and my favorite....catastrophic only policies) or we cut off Medicaid funding to your State.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (0pcwX)

244 "Nancy with the laughing face" written by Phil Silvers on the birth of Nancy Sinatra.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (cjVcY)

245 Election have consequences...

apparently not


Why does the GOP continue to defy the voters?

I remember when Ryan, Paul, etc... were the "new fresh hope" not too long ago. WTF?!

Posted by: Getcha Pull at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (MIwBq)

246 Lame McCain grows tumors on his brain.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (jjaLl)

247 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

-
Good God! Mad Max will live forever.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (Nwg0u)

248 230 Maybe this vote will help spur on states ratifying for a convention. It's pretty close now, IIRC.
Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (cjVcY)

They just won't recognize it...

The Feds decide whether the States votes for a Constitutional Amendment is valid...

Which is why the 16th passed, even though it should not have...

And the Balanced Budget Amendment didn't, even though enough States have ratified it.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (NgKpN)

249 JoeF.: "If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain...."

...because it would have been a damn tiny tumor.

I denounce myself, sort of.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (H8S+R)

250 Senate agrees to talk.

World in shock.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (3myMJ)

251 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

Too many limp rhinos sneaking through

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (AU4SY)

252 Trump gloating now....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (7uYFy)

253 And with ObamaCare, a whole bunch of new federal mandates got added on top of that.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (LHzKO)

It's all those mandates that makes insurance expensive.

No, I don't want to get rid of federalism.

It would be nice to buy the policy we'd like to buy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (Ri/rl)

254 234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

It would almost seem like the Uniparty is just kicking the Obamacare can around, with an eye to taking a majority in some part of the government again. Almost.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (zSVEm)

255 >>>>If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....



He doesn't strike me as a fighter, given his life history.
.
.
.No one "survives" the type of cancer he has, some just live a bit longer than others and the long lived ones are usually way younger than 80.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (0pcwX)

256 Trump looks like Kennedy sometimes, doesn't he....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (7uYFy)

257 Ha ha. Looks like the Dems are objecting, and compelling the amendments to be read out loud in full. Am I interpreting this correctly?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (8iiMU)

258 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix)

259 People will always remember that Colons and Murcokesky wanted to keep Obamacare. We should make them wear that vote like a dog collar.

How the hell can you be in the senate and vote to not have debate on the most important issue our country and her citizens needs to to fix.

The words spineless "pussies" comes to mind.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (zJ3L1)

260 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====

As a parting gift, the governor of AZ will appoint her to his seat!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

261 257 This is what the GOP should have done for ObamalamaCare.....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (8iiMU)

262 Terminal Lucidity.

That would've been a better film if Nastassja Kinski had gotten nekkid.

...

Wait, what?

Posted by: movie cricket at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (+INtM)

263 ... will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM


Of course not. Useless eaters are not tolerated here.

Posted by: Juan & Geraldo at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (ctuyM)

264 So, just the tip?

Posted by: fluffy at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (jw2Xw)

265 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix

Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (7uYFy)

266 McCain's words were quaint . And irrelevant.

The OTHER side declared war on the voters after the election. McCain is either sick or comically stupid to not understand the war that was declared on his cherished 'Republic' .

McCains words , given the hell unleashed by the other side, are.......so Very French.


Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (oBuXO)

267 My thought is anything is better than everything in the history of the country previously taken away from the Democrats, which of course isn't much.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (pPKG5)

268 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

---------------------------------------
He might need their votes against conviction by then...

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (SsblQ)

269 Too many limp rhinos sneaking through

I think they are the best you can expect from these states, in terms of Republicans. Their voters are too worthless, stupid, or corrupt to make the right choice. So its up to the congressional leadership in the parties to crack the whip and apply pressure, which they are plainly choosing not to do. This isn't the fault of a "few troublesome members" its a leadership issue. And who votes for these leaders? The majority of congress.

In other words: its not a small number, its most of them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (39g3+)

270 260 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====

As a parting gift, the governor of AZ will appoint her to his seat!
Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

I am, like, so happy to be here! SQUEEEEE!! So where's the all you can eat buffet?

Posted by: Meaghan "Thunder Thighs" McCain at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (RD7QR)

271 hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====
No, but KFC is hiring. Should do wonders for her figure.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (rm2Cc)

272 No one "survives" the type of cancer he has, some just live a bit longer than others and the long lived ones are usually way younger than 80.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (0pcwX)


Very true.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (zSVEm)

273
When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (mcI77)


She probably has her eyes set on her fathers vacated senate seat

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (lKyWE)

274 In true John McCain fashion, the Senator has successfully negotiated a compromise with his brain tumor.

McCain has agreed to let the tumor remain and the tumor has given McCain its hearty assurance that it will not kill him.

"We must not let our hatred of tumors dictate the possibility of compromise," McCain said.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (4AVeu)

275 Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
=====

I KNEW I was born at the wrong time. I just knew it!!

Posted by: Shep! at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (vg8iE)

276 She probably has her eyes set on her fathers vacated senate seat
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (lKyWE)

And the entire Senate's vacated lunch....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (7uYFy)

277 .Yep, comply with the provisions of the new law allowing interstate health insurance policies (and my favorite....catastrophic only policies) or we cut off Medicaid funding to your State.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
___________

Sure they can do that and also "make" the states pass any law with a bribe.

But to my knowledge, you can't simply say "drop all mandates" and suddenly all state laws regarding insurance become null and void.

Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (LHzKO)

278
Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
--------
sounds like he didn't just chase her, he caught her, at least once.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (y/1Lm)

279 274 In true John McCain fashion, the Senator has successfully negotiated a compromise with his brain tumor.

McCain has agreed to let the tumor remain and the tumor has given McCain its hearty assurance that it will not kill him.

"We must not let our hatred of tumors dictate the possibility of compromise," McCain said.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (4AVeu)

OK... I'm goin to hell for laughin at that...

See ya all there!

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (NgKpN)

280 My frienshs, we have noth- POUND CAKE!! ing to fear from thesh brain tu- I HAVE A HAT!!!! mors growing in my FUCK!!! SHIT!!!!! PISS!!!!!! head.

Posted by: John McCain at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (jjaLl)

281 258 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix)


My father hated him because Sinatra avoided military service in WWII.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (tu3iY)

282 People will always remember that Colons and Murcokesky wanted to keep Obamacare. We should make them wear that vote like a dog collar.

How the hell can you be in the senate and vote to not have debate on the most important issue our country and her citizens needs to to fix.

The words spineless "pussies" comes to mind.
Posted by: Marcus T

______

I agree, and Trump's election has showed that Republicans voters aren't taking the same shit sandwich any longer.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (LHzKO)

283 Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
--------
sounds like he didn't just chase her, he caught her, at least once.
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (y/1Lm)

Sounds like he "lassoed" her with that thing....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (7uYFy)

284
Susan Collins -- a class act!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ sen-susan-collins-blasts-house-colleague-hes-so-unattractive-its-unbelievable/

Sen. Susan Collins Blasts House Colleague: ‘He’s So Unattractive, It’s Unbelievable’

MALE SENATOR on FARENTHOLD: “You could beat the shit out of him.”

SUSAN COLLINS: “He’s huge … he’s so unattractive, it’s unbelievable.” pic.twitter.com/hyw6fKU15E

— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) July 25, 2017

Following a Senate Committee of Appropriations Meeting Tuesday, Senator Susan Collins was caught talking with Senator Jack Reed about Rep. Blake Farenthold, calling him “so unattractive.”

Listen to the audio above.

Senator Collins delivered a statement in the hearing before sitting down next Reed, where they start talking to each other about budget and healthcare. The conversation turns towards Farenthold when Collins says, “Did you see the one that challenged me to a duel?”

The senator responded, “Trust me, do you know why he challenged you to a duel? Because you could beat the sh*t out of him.”

The audio gets fuzzy here, but Collins is heard saying “fat guy,” “he’s huge,” and “he is so unattractive it’s unbelievable.”

Collins continued by talking about the famous picture of Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (DQ4Fv)

285 McCain has been a mostly terrible politician, but as a man we owe him a lot. I don't like his rather obvious penchant for being incoherently oppositional, mostly for the camera and his own ego, but the hate for a man in his condition is a bit in poor taste.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (zJ3L1)

286 >>>However, the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on S.114, which would ignore the needs of the VA health care system and use funds from VA programs to "pay for" private sector care."

S.114 is Transparency Act. Might be thinking of S.1526 or S.1527, but those were new appropriations and didn't make it through House yesterday.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (UCap9)

287 Has Trump's federal execution happened yet? Is Hillary President?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (SsblQ)

288 The Balanced Budget Amendment was never passed by Congress so it never made it to the States.


from wiki:


There is no balanced budget provision in the U.S. Constitution, so the federal government is not required to have a balanced budget and usually does not pass one. Several proposed amendments to the U.S. Constitution would require a balanced budget, but none have been passed. Most of these proposed amendments allow a supermajority to waive the requirement of a balanced budget in times of war, national emergency or recession.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (mpXpK)

289 "Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???"

Just in case no else has said it, they along with women, children, persons of color, and disabled will be hardest hit.

You need to get over Susan Olivia leaving you for a man. Stuff happens.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (sf2BM)

290 We already primaried Murky -- and she persists.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (9TU00)

291 As I was just saying to Frank last night, "Argle bargle, bargle. . . "

Posted by: Ava Gardner at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (4AVeu)

292 Frank Murkowski, Jr. got primaried and lost to Joe Miller in 2010. Murkowski, Jr. ran a write-in campaign and beat Miller in the general. The enemy is not Murkowski, Jr. It's Alaska voters.

In Maine, the last three Republican Senators were William Cohen, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins. The lefties in Portland will never permit a conservative to be elected to the Senate. Gov. LePage won twice because there were third party candidates. So, the enemy here are the voters of Maine.

Posted by: mercenary13 at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (4Tut9)

293 @265: it's the skinny dudes who are full of surprises

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (g+Dix)

294 Most of what the federal government can do to fix health care costs is negative: eliminate restrictions, eliminate regulations, eliminate mandates. There's not a lot they can do in the positive sense to fix anything.

Because the problem with health care in the USA isn't insufficient insurance, its not lack of coverage, its not even lack of access. Its vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies covering far more than they need to, in order to get a bigger bite of the pie.

If in a perfect world somehow all of that got fixed over night, it would take decades to really bring the cost down.

And in the meantime, all those mangy hippies and worthless dirtbags in the boomer generation who live off the state and demand more and more (as in: not everyone in the generation) get older and sicker and more expensive to deal with.

We're watching a cost balloon grow like a mushroom cloud and its right on the horizon. Obamacare was an attempt to deal with that by forcing everyone to buy in and spread the cost around.

"Yes, it will be expensive, but if we compel people who do not want or need insurance to either buy it or pay a fine, well then we can ride this out!" That was the theory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)

295 The Balanced Budget Amendment was never passed by Congress so it never made it to the States.


But it scared Congress into the current budget architecture

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (9TU00)

296 Federalism, no. Confederation, yes.
If the Fed can't be reigned in then it must be abolished.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (cjVcY)

297 42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.


So much for committee in the senate.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

has Collins looked in a mirror lately? her Katherine Hepburn impersonation with the shaky voice isn't helping, either.....

Posted by: the Butcher at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (KtAmr)

298 238 I saw Terminal Lucidity open up for Queensryche in 1989.

I used a Lucidity terminal to open a file on a PDP-10 back in the late '70s. It was VT-52 compatible. Mostly.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sGtp+)

299 Sinatra lookedlike he had a Steve Buscemi build. Like a Carny....

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (zSVEm)

300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (zJ3L1)

301 >>>>Sure they can do that and also "make" the states pass any law with a bribe.



But to my knowledge, you can't simply say "drop all mandates" and
suddenly all state laws regarding insurance become null and void.



Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.
.
.
.If it involves anything to do with interstate commerce the Fed can pretty much do anything it wants to and make all sorts of mandates to the States.

Look up Wickard vs. Filburn to see how far the reach of the Fed has been made in regards to interstate commerce.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (0pcwX)

302 Wait- Collins is a woman?

Who knew?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (zJ3L1)

303 Gov. LePage won twice because there were third party candidates.

Seems like the beginnings of a strategy ...

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (9TU00)

304 268 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

---------------------------------------
He might need their votes against conviction by then...

*****
also, these states are full of moderates who hate the GOP...
**********

sure sure, but the left gets their lockstep liberals in Congress no matter who their constituents are.

It doesn't take SunTzu to see these people opposing trump have lost and don't know it yet.

impeach? Ok then. Maybe in the few remaining brain cells that Pelosi has left.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (AU4SY)

305 Paul Ryan is a fucking dope.

I am going to donate as much as I possibly can to his challenger.

ARGHHH!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (2JcMg)

306 Wait- Collins is a woman?

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How does xe identify?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (SsblQ)

307 >>Collins continued by talking about the famous picture of Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Collins publicly came out last year and announced that she wouldn't be voting for Trump because he didn't treat people with respect.

She's a fraud but she won her last election with almost 70% of the vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (/tuJf)

308 285 McCain has been a mostly terrible politician, but as a man we owe him a lot. I don't like his rather obvious penchant for being incoherently oppositional, mostly for the camera and his own ego, but the hate for a man in his condition is a bit in poor taste.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (zJ3L1)



Was it alright to hate him before he got sick?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (yKB8T)

309 Wow, oil up 3.34% today.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (3myMJ)

310 meanwhile...trump has a pen and a phone.

The 404care act was written to be performed by a long line of democrat Secretaries to do whatever he wanted.

So now we have the secretaryship.

Direct the shit to end.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (AU4SY)

311 301 Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.
.
.
.If
it involves anything to do with interstate commerce the Fed can pretty
much do anything it wants to and make all sorts of mandates to the
States.

Look up Wickard vs. Filburn to see how far the reach of the Fed has been made in regards to interstate commerce.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (0pcwX)

The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (mpXpK)

312 Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (DQ4Fv)
***************************************

From Corpus Christie? Ha, they hate him. Lilly white boy voted in by Hispanics. Racism in Texas is rampant.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:27 PM (cjVcY)

313 I always thought to myself- "why does Collins always have someone filling her so close and dressed so similarly they look like an appendage". Then I figured out it was her fat ass.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:27 PM (zJ3L1)

314 Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (LHzKO)

AFAIK they can and would if they had the votes. As I recall there were a few states with legal slavery until the Fed gov't put an end to that.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (UBzPO)

315 BSG,

Just going by what the VFW sent me via email.

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"Take Action: Call (202) 224-3121. Press 2 and follow the prompt to reach your Representative. Tell your Representative that you oppose the gradual privatization of VA health care and you demand that they vote "NO" on S.114, which would send billions of dollars into the private sector through the Choice Program; use veterans benefits to pay for it; and put no new resources into VA to address critical infrastructure and staffing shortages which led to the creation of the Choice Program in the first place."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (s5Kql)

316 We need a Red Wedding moment with GOP from both Houses.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (2qHjF)

317 >>Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic

insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas...


Thus confirming that DC is high school, where the cool-kid, long-serving incumbents rule the school like mean grrrrls!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (NOIQH)

318 reminder of the GOP's core beliefs:

1. our base is an embarrassment.
2. our beliefs are best hidden because no honest person could believe this shit.
3. The democrats are kind of right, you know.
4. Our goal is to get democrat interns fresh from leftwing universities to love us.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (AU4SY)

319 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.


Talking Heads syndrome. It happens Once in a Lifetime

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (lIZQs)

320 McCain having cancer doesn't make him somehow immune to criticism. I agree he shouldn't be hated, but nobody should be. I sympathize with his family and I don't wish death or illness on him.

I just want him out of power, out of the public eye, retired somewhere that he can get the care he needs. And if he truly cared about the American people or at least his constituents, he'd be announcing his retirement, not grandstanding on the Senate floor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

321 They'll pass it, slap each other on the back, and put it in their campaign ads while the shills on Fox et al hail it as a great victory.

What a crock of shit, they have the ability to do exactly what they want to here and this sad drop in the bucket will be it.

Posted by: Motorhead at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (RjQO6)

322 And the ACTUAL job of the feral government is to
make a law that makes regular the interstate commerce of that product.
The feral government actually has the responsibility to fix that problem
- not to take control of health insurance markets but to work it out so
that interstate commerce is possible and fluid. That is their ACTUAL
Constitutional task. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (rZ+mb)
=====

^^^THIS^^^

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

323 318 reminder of the GOP's core beliefs:

1. our base is an embarrassment.

***

remember, we never knew that the GOP's biggest voting block were college graduates until evil, oh my God, trump is hitler was allegedly losing them.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (AU4SY)

324 I blame Preibus for Collins and McCloutsky.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (mcI77)

325 >>There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

>>Damned if I can remember it now.

Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)

326 Farenthold.... is that pronounced Farent hold, or Faren thold ??
Really important point there.... would not want to embarrass myself at the coffee shop..

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (zSVEm)

327 >>>>>Because the problem with health care in the USA isn't insufficient
insurance, its not lack of coverage, its not even lack of access. Its
vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government
interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies
covering far more than they need to, in order to get a bigger bite of
the pie.
.
.
.I was just talking to a guy at the VFW and his doctor told him that she would no longer being doing any of his pain management due to her Malpractice insurance going up almost double.

We just had a pill mill doctor over in Sherman get busted by the FBI for a decades worth of Medicare fraud and abuse and over prescribing pain pills so the Temoxa Insurance companies are raising everyone's premiums who do any long term pain management treatment.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (0pcwX)

328 Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (LHzKO)

329 300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

You get on the north side of I95 and there is not a whole lot to do other than collect the federal handouts. South of the highway is completely overrun by Massholes doing their best to make Maine into what they escaped.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (kUmUV)

330 Rush has repeatedly said the GOP will not repeal Obamacare because they want to keep it.

The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 25, 2017 03:31 PM (MZcWR)

331 >>>The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare.
And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.
.
.
.Vic what I was saying is that the Fed can tell the States to back off any restrictions to the 2nd, not add more to it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:31 PM (0pcwX)

332 Trashing Sessions praising McCain in the last few moments. I'm with Carol on Trump.

Posted by: Tallulah Jane at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (WLNyn)

333 300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

You get on the north side of I95 and there is not a whole lot to do other than collect the federal handouts. South of the highway is completely overrun by Massholes doing their best to make Maine into what they escaped.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (kUmUV)


I would say it's maybe Northern West Virginia, but I doubt there is enough similarities for it to really work.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (zSVEm)

334 Remember how Ryan was scorched for enforcing the Congressional Dress Code?

It's being revamped, just wait until the new one comes out.

Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)



For half of them the dress code should be an orange jumpsuit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SRKgf)

335 >>>Just going by what the VFW sent me via email.

You can go to congress.gov and read the text of the bills. S.114 and H.R.1690 are Transparency Acts regarding reporting of performance awards and bonuses.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (UCap9)

336 Making a cogent argument against the plethora of idiotic grandstanding and ass chaping incidents Mcain has been involved in and making comments about his illness are two different things. Like I said, he's been demonstrably a horrible politician and one could even say disloyal. But I still empathize with his condition and the things he's done before politics. That's my only point.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (zJ3L1)

337 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (CMbMd)

338 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

_________

The state is not that liberal.

It has a Republican Governor and Trump lost only like by like 4 points.

I could maybe understand Collins if we were talking about a state like Massachusetts.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (LHzKO)

339 320 McCain having cancer doesn't make him somehow immune to criticism. I agree he shouldn't be hated, but nobody should be. I sympathize with his family and I don't wish death or illness on him.

I just want him out of power, out of the public eye, retired somewhere that he can get the care he needs. And if he truly cared about the American people or at least his constituents, he'd be announcing his retirement, not grandstanding on the Senate floor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

DITTO!!!

I would give him time on the floor of the Senate for a farewell speech. But if he (like any other servant of the people) should recognize the sun is setting on their career and graciously bow out so another can step in. Anything more just shows how large the divide is between our "betters" and us commoners.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (jxbfJ)

340 Don't know much about Maine, but just looking at a map makes me think some Massholes moved in.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (+YumX)

341 amazing that the commie senators in Trump states couldn,t vote yes

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (g+Dix)

342 328 Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

I agree.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

343 337 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (CMbMd)

Waving that banner, virtue signalling.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (zSVEm)

344 >>Don't know much about Maine, but just looking at a map makes me think some Massholes moved in.

And apparently some Somalis?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (NOIQH)

345 Oh well, it's shot down, whatever it was.

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (s5Kql)

346 Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)


On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)

347 The obvious solution is pass a bill repealing it in its entirety and pass a bill that says this is a States issue and the States can do whatever they want. Of course that would be a constitutional solution so it's out of the question.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (HKM9P)

348 Collins is ugly as hell but that fat guy does look like a dumbass

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (E4p3I)

349
The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.
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But I lurk in the penumbras and emanations.

Posted by: Abortion at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (vg8iE)

350 346 Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)

On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)

As soon as you're born you start dyin'
So you might as well have a good time

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (0mRoj)

351 But cripes, Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

Yet that's essentially what this two saggy boobs just voted for.
The voters can't be that dumb.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (zJ3L1)

352 I agree.


Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

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I know, right?

Posted by: Big Debbie Stabenow at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)

353 trump needs to talk to the "director" who is basically authorized to rewrite the law as he sees fit.

seriously, how does the GOP not know this?

also, faukkke your preexisting conditions. And the mandated cadillac plans. the director can direct this shit away.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (AU4SY)

354 The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.

I think they would actually care more about what the American people think, but they are basically soaking nose-deep in leftists so they have no connection whatosever to the voters. They stay all year long out of state with a few visits, they hear only what they're allowed to hear by the media, they have staffers who handle their mail who may or may not be leftist, and they simply don't know.

It takes a pretty extraordinary person to be constantly surrounded by a worldview and not be influenced and changed by it. Hence: don't send your kids to college.

Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

But if she gets the sniffles you dare not say anything bad about her!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

355 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...
Posted by: Hikaru

If they had one, they are compromised - PP keeps a list and vets it with their political operatives.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (9TU00)

356 The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.

______

But the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean "zero gun laws" and obviously states all have different laws.

So I wouldn't want the Feds to say we all have to have California's gun laws that could override existing state laws.

The Feds are only supposed to regulate activity between states, but we know that has largely been made null and void.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (LHzKO)

357 "On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)"


We are all suffering from terminal birth.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (lIZQs)

358 Maine is beautiful. As such it must be settled and eventually destroyed by the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (A3edJ)

359 OK John. Your turn. One drool for yes, two for no.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (HgMAr)

360 But cripes, Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

Yet that's essentially what this two saggy boobs just voted for.
The voters can't be that dumb.
Posted by: Marcus T

_______

None of these Senators are in any danger of getting booted.

They simply WANT government controlled health care.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (LHzKO)

361 Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

The older you get, the more... flexible, lets say... your constitutionalism and federalism becomes. BUt mah soch security! But may medicares! You can't touch em!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (39g3+)

362 @338 The state is not that liberal.

It has a Republican Governor and Trump lost only like by like 4 points.

I could maybe understand Collins if we were talking about a state like Massachusetts.
-----------------------

Collins's fellow senator used to be Olympia Snow. Snow was a Republican, but frequently voted along with the other party, just like Collins. When Snow finally left office, she was not replaced with a Republican.

Sure sounds like the state really is "that liberal".

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (Q6qiA)

363 Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other president does?
If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (7uYFy)

364 ***Faren thold

This.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (HKM9P)

365 They pass some crapass amendment to O'care and the
Dems will never quit pointing and saying "Pubbies fouled it up, Pubbies fouled it up.

The Republicans in congress are beyond stupid.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (cjVcY)

366 We are all suffering from terminal birth.

"No way, science will save us, we'll be immortal!"
-Instapundit

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)

367 If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
===========

Real fuckin' high, duuuuuuuuude.

Posted by: Choomin' Barry at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (vg8iE)

368 Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other president does?
If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (7uYFy)


Well White Men can't Jump.

You walked right into that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (5y11N)

369
Maine shares a long border with Canada

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (lKyWE)

370 Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (LHzKO

It does basically say no gun laws regard to ownership. That it's been interpreted through the years as saying differently doesn't change that fact.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (A3edJ)

371 We looked at Maine for retirement. But he estate tax and retirement taxes in general were a killer. No thanks.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (zJ3L1)

372 The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.


The only constituency the GOP cares about is K Street.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:41 PM (cjVcY)

373 >>>Oh well, it's shot down, whatever it was

Whether it's called Choice or CARE, it's a sensible solution pushed by Sec Shulkin.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:41 PM (UCap9)

374 A new Portland, OR mother posted a photo on facehole of her breastfeeding her new spawn while taking a bong hit.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)

375 OT:

The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...

https://twitter.com/wiltshirepolice/status/889903731256512513

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (vBeA5)

376 368, Well White Men can't Jump.



You walked right into that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (5y11N)
Lol. That said, I think Sessions is a good man and he was very loyal to Trump during the primaries and what's going on right now does make me feel rather sad for him.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

377
"No way, science will save us, we'll be immortal!"

-Instapundit
---

Immortality seems more like a punishment than a reward.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (aT+Bx)

378 "Well, fat guy," Collins said, "He's so unattractive it's unbelievable. Did you see the picture of him in his pajamas next to the bunny.the Playboy Bunny?"

So we have mean girls of about the emotional maturity of 8th grade girls in the Congress. GREAT!

Can someone who actually is a Republican who doesn't have a crush on the Democrats please primary Collins?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (iVOAv)

379 >>The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...



https://twitter.com/wiltshirepolice/status/889903731256512513




The replies to that are epic!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (NOIQH)

380 , I think Sessions is a good man and he was very loyal to Trump during the primaries and what's going on right now does make me feel rather sad for him.
Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

Me too.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (5y11N)

381 Sessions is a good man doing a poor job.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (cjVcY)

382 >>>>>Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why
can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other
president does?

If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
.
.
.Because Trump is an outsider and he keeps hiring DC Beltway insiders who actually view him as a flash in the pan showman who accidentally got elected and will be gone in four years and then they can get everything back to normal.

He needs to hire completely outside of the DC box. Sure there will be a steep learning curve and the bureaucrats will try to slow walk everything, but they are doing that already.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (0pcwX)

383 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.

I knew we weren't going to vote our way out of the burning times but I had hoped he'd be more professional and competent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

384 A new Portland, OR mother posted a photo on facehole of her breastfeeding her new spawn while taking a bong hit.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)


Yeah, well I'm going to have to see some evidence, solid evidence before I can render judgment. Sometimes it's best not to jump to conclusions when there are so mammary variables involved.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (EgwCt)

385 Everytime I refresh this page it opens it in a new tab. Anyone else have this going on?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (mpXpK)

386 @338 The state is not that liberal

Portland is way beyond "that liberal". And Kinnebushport is old, establishment money - so, not on the Trump Train.

The rest of the state? Yeah, that's how LaPage got elected.

Posted by: DocJ at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (NYS7S)

387 trump's comments about sessions enrage me just like his anti-intelligence community statements where he doubted the thorough, independent work of all 17 USA intelligence agencies ...

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (AU4SY)

388 LOL Lizzy!

Favorite:

"I'm offended by clouds. Please ban clouds. And the letter "R". It offends me dreadfully. Please arrest "R" before it can offend again."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (s5Kql)

389 "[The problem with health care is] vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government
interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies
covering far more than they need to"

Also, the artificial curtailment of supply by what are in effect cartels.

In a normal market, when prices for a service are sky high, the market promptly responds by training and equipping more people to provide that service. Prices then come down.

Medicine isn't a normal market because the interests who are making a ton of money out of it have rigged the market and have curtailed access, which means supply can't respond with normal sprightliness.

The USA ranks #52 globally in number of licensed physicians per capita. Behind the likes of Kyrgystan.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)

390
It does basically say no gun laws regard to ownership. That it's been interpreted through the years as saying differently doesn't change that fact.
Posted by: Jack Sock

++++

I would disagree, but it doesn't matter.

The 2nd Amendment does not protect you from dumb gun laws and if you can have the federal government override state health laws, than get ready for them to end state laws like concealed carry.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (LHzKO)

391 Now it stopped.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (mpXpK)

392 Vic, I just get the pop ups from the crap ads telling me I've just won an iPhone.

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (E4p3I)

393 352 I agree.


Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

========

I know, right?
Posted by: Big Debbie Stabenow at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)

+++

Don't be so mean! Not everyone can have a face and figure like me.

Posted by: Patty Murray at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (2+gSO)

394 By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (zJ3L1)

395 Grrrrrrrr.

Types/deletes over and over.

We are so boned. Elect Democrats IDGAF any more. Burn it down. Fucking burn it.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (zZWkn)

396 Anthony Scaramucci, looks like a good pick.
Trump is beginning to thin out the beltway crowd.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:48 PM (cjVcY)

397 Is it two for one on trolls today ?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:48 PM (zJ3L1)

398 PDT is learning on the job just how corrupt DC is and who he can trust and not trust....It's a work in progress...and anyway he is our only hope. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:49 PM (5y11N)

399
Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted against it?

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (t6XCL)

400 People talking about how liberal Maine is, I still think a Republican Senator can get away with repealing Obamacare in a state that only went for Hillary by 3%.


Apparently everyone wants to make the case that Collins is being super smart here and doing what her constituents want.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (LHzKO)

401
I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.


Good lord did you think the swamp was go___ to go without a fight?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (lKyWE)

402 >>By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

THIS


Also, let's not pretend Collins represents Maine anymore than McCain represents Arizona, Lindsey Graham represents, SC, etc.
After so many years in the Senate they represent themselves and DC, period. They have more respect and time for their fellow Senators of both parties than any of those icky non-donors in whatever city, home state.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

403 398
PDT is learning on the job just how corrupt DC is and who he can trust
and not trust....It's a work in progress...and anyway he is our only
hope. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:49 PM (5y11N)


His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (mpXpK)

404 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out.
---
1. Get hired for a high profile job in a new field
2. From day 1, 75% + of your coworkers spend their entire day working to get you fired.
3. That 75% enables all of their friends (aka the MSM) to do everything they can 24/7 to get you fired.

Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?


Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (aT+Bx)

405 By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (iVOAv)

406 There is no fight in DC just the status quo...

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (zZWkn)

407 Can someone who actually is a Republican who doesn't have a crush on the Democrats please primary Collins?

The theory is that Suzie Q really wants to be Governor (open seat - LePage is term limited) and needs to keep the vote in Portland quiet. She's denying, of course, that she's running.

All of the Dems lining up to run in what will likely be a nasty primary are lunatic fringe leftists who will try to out pinko each other for the Portland vote. Whoever survives that primary won't get jack from CD-2, so if Suzie can keep CD-1 (Portland, basically) quiet she's a lock.

The true joy would be then if LePage appointed himself to her seat. Heads would explode.

Posted by: DocJ at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (NYS7S)

408 The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...



The wankers DO know that Twitter is worldwide, don't they?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (Bd48Y)

409 OT, but I was thinking about this...

...sure, it was the UK, but will Charlie Gard go down as the first known Government-Ordered Post-Birth Abortion in the Anglosphere (setting an example that our Washington Bureaumonsters can't wait to follow)?

Or does this happen all the time and we just don't hear about it because the parents are too cowardly to make a stink about it?

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (CMbMd)

410 371 We looked at Maine for retirement. But he estate tax and retirement taxes in general were a killer. No thanks.

Maine has one of the oldest populations in the nation so people do retire there. Never really understood that. Wondering if it may be young people with ambition leave, and old ones who stay have stopped reproducing.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (kUmUV)

411 His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
-----
This.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (8b+oT)

412 Police placed the suspect into the back of a patrol car and began driving eastbound on Interstate 80, at which point the suspect slipped his cuffs, undressed in the backseat, and tossed his clothes out onto the freeway, according to officials.

When officers realized he was throwing clothes out of the car, "they also realized he had just defecated, started to eat his feces and spat feces at the officers", police said.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (mcI77)

413 Mooch is known as a no bullshit guy in the industry. You don't get to that type of position being a pussy.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (zJ3L1)

414
His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.
--

My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one around who knew the job.

Plus.. people protect their jobs and their secrets. Do you really think that the Obama holdovers would train new people? Hell, they want the government to shut down so they can impeach Trump.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (aT+Bx)

415 His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

+++++

He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again.

But Trump's totally draining the swamp.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

416 Because Trump is an outsider and he keeps hiring DC Beltway insiders who actually view him as a flash in the pan showman who accidentally got elected and will be gone in four years and then they can get everything back to normal.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (0pcwX)

Oh Trump may be gone in four years, but things aren't going to be "getting back to normal." Trump --by his mere existence--has already seen to that.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (7uYFy)

417 >>Or does this happen all the time and we just don't hear about it because the parents are too cowardly to make a stink about it?


Pretty sure it's that one. This is the same healthcare system that implemented the Liverpool Care Pathway, with cash bonuses to hospitals that exceed their kill quota.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (NOIQH)

418 We've got the White House, the Senate, and the House, but we really need to get control of the Council of Elrond in order to get rid of Obamacare. You know where to donate.

Posted by: Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (qYCgM)

419 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.


Mary Cloggenstein? That you?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (EgwCt)

420 Being fat does not make a person dumb. Being dumb makes a person fat.
Hon, can you get me some icecream while you're up? What?!? Well who the hell ate it?

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (zLDYs)

421 Medicine isn't a normal market because the interests who are making a ton of money out of it have rigged the market and have curtailed access, which means supply can't respond with normal sprightliness.

. . .
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)
***********************************


You talkin' to me?

Posted by: AMA & Insurance Cos at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (cjVcY)

422 The wankers DO know that Twitter is worldwide, don't they?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (Bd48Y)

---

They do now.

Heh.

Another favorite of mine:

"This is twitter you seat sniffing biff
Everyone & Everything on twitter is fair game, always has been. Go back to facebook poppet"

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (s5Kql)

423 Let me make future presidential appointments easy:

1. If you've ever been appointed by Obama, your application is rejected.

2. If you've ever been appointed by anyone with the last name Bush, your application is rejected.

Now let me make all future personnel decisions easy:

"You're fired."

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (j+dfT)

424
He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (lKyWE)

425 We really liked Vermont also. In general very libertarian. Good on the Second no Amendment. But again the estate and retirement taxes were a killer. That's a real shame because it's one of my favorite states. Other than the ex New Yorkers that is.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (zJ3L1)

426 414 My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one around who knew the job.

Plus.. people protect their jobs and their secrets. Do you really think that the Obama holdovers would train new people? Hell, they want the government to shut down so they can impeach Trump.


Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (aT+Bx)


That and it would be tied up in HR hearings against the Fed Workers Union FOREVER, and they'd still get to keep their jobs anyway while it was in dispute/appeal.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (CMbMd)

427 My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the
government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one
around who knew the job.
---
How is shutting down the government a worse option than letting it continue to operate?

Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (3Liv/)

428 I had hoped the President Obama would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out.


Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (7n4KQ)

429 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again.

But Trump's totally draining the swamp.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)
********************************************

Say it ain't so.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (cjVcY)

430 Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (EgwCt)


No; Probably Bill Wynn. The Cloggenstein sock purposely spells almost everything incorrectly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (iVOAv)

431 "When officers realized he was throwing clothes out of the car, 'they
also realized he had just defecated, started to eat his feces and spat
feces at the officers', police said."

Wow. Getting McCain there for the floor vote was harder than I thought.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (ujwCG)

432 has Collins looked in a mirror lately? her Katherine Hepburn impersonation with the shaky voice isn't helping, either.....
Posted by: the Butcher at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (KtAmr)

Olympia Snowe had the same problem.

What is it with these Maine senators? Is it the air up there?

I should talk, right? I live in Florida - home of the nutcase news

Posted by: Marybeth at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (CmURZ)

433 Betrayal is our greatest challenge to overcome. One thing you got to say about Democrats - they don't have to worry about betrayal on their side.

Yoohoo! Over here...

Posted by: Bernie Sanders Primary Voter at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (joFoi)

434 We've got the White House, the Senate, and the House, but we really need to get control of the Council of Elrond in order to get rid of Obamacare. You know where to donate.
Posted by: Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM

And The Secret Chamber of Tellrudia. We need all the members of the Secret Chamber of Tellruidia on our side to get rid of Obamacare.

Donate now. Your very life depends on it.

Posted by: : Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (aT+Bx)

435 Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)

Obamacare has little or nothing to do with actual Health care costs.... except to raise them through taxes.

O'care is all about the mechanism used to PAY those costs.... its arguing about who picks up the check... How much the Government will pay for (Medicaid expansion)... and how much the Healthy and prosperous will pay of OTHER peoples healthcare costs, through a gerrymandered Insurance system.

The Repubs are continuing down the same path.... tinkering with WHO pays... and not fixing a damn thing...

Because to actually FIX it, wouldn't be 'nice'....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

436 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic



Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

437 Apparently everyone wants to make the case that Collins is being super smart here and doing what her constituents want.

Its more like this: they like the way she is and want her to continue being that way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

438 399


Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid
the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted
against it?

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (t6XCL)

the original vote in 2009 was 60 Democrats and 0 Republicans. RINO Bunting of KY did not vote.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)

439 Name one fucking thing that ever drifted rightward, I'm just so sick of congress... Types/deletes Over and over again. fuck.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (zZWkn)

440 He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic

+++++

I'm sure that will never bleed into any decisions Trump will make.

Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (LHzKO)

441 Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!

Posted by: Boromir at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (qYCgM)

442 I can't find the committee vote.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (mpXpK)

443 Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid
the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted
against it?

Posted by: YIKES!
+++++

It was either Collins or Snowe that allowed ObamaCare to get out the Committe to proceed, but that wouldn't have really stopped it.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (LHzKO)

444
Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

That's what's pissing me off. No one is actively helping him. Either Trump is as terrible s the media has always said or they all buy into this Russian hoax and think that Trump is going --and don't want to be associated with him.
Something is going to give. And soon.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (7uYFy)

445
Personally, as someone who has *nearly* experienced both business and personal bankruptcy, I kinda think that the learning experience provides a benefit over those who just *shrug* their shoulders at the topic and laugh at nineteen trillion dollars in debt.

But feel free to sign on with a divorce lawyer with no experience. I'm sure you'll get what you deserve in the end.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (EgwCt)

446 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (LHzKO)
*************************

Maybe the Party of Stupid runs deeper than we realize.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (cjVcY)

447 It was either Collins or Snowe that allowed ObamaCare to get out the Committe to proceed, but that wouldn't have really stopped it.



IIRC, Snowe.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (Bd48Y)

448
Yoohoo! Over here...
Posted by: Bernie Sanders Primary Voter at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (joFoi)

++

That reminds me, what kind of chicken shit steals his neighbor's Sunday newspaper. What a wanker. And millions love this guy.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (2+gSO)

449 441 Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!
Posted by: Boromir at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (qYCgM)


Well played.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (Niu5G)

450 Charlie Gard Care 2020

Posted by: Single Player at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (qYCgM)

451 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic



Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

It would be a mistake to attribute definitive political leanings to a non-political person who was in finiance in left wing circles and who probably gave to many differant politicians and causes just to have an in.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (5y11N)

452 425 We really liked Vermont also.

Vermont is great if you are really rich, or really poor. Also has a nice matching thing if you plan ahead and get a long term care insurance policy before you need it. Other than that, no.

I'm somewhat past 59 and as soon as we can I'm out (wifey maybe not so much - interesting times). Property taxes will eat you alive. A small single story ranch around 1000 square feet on a postage stamp lot in the town my office is in will have property taxes in excess of $10,000 a year. I live a bit farther out and we're now over $5000 and going up 3%-5% a year.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (kUmUV)

453
Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (lKyWE)

454

the original vote in 2009 was 60 Democrats and 0 Republicans. RINO Bunting of KY did not vote.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)


I distinctly remembering a vote prior to the final vote which paved the way for the final vote in the house. That's the one in which Collins and Snowe voted in favor of.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (t6XCL)

455 I'm somewhat past 59 and as soon as we can I'm out (wifey maybe not so much - interesting times). Property taxes will eat you alive. A small single story ranch around 1000 square feet on a postage stamp lot in the town my office is in will have property taxes in excess of $10,000 a year. I live a bit farther out and we're now over $5000 and going up 3%-5% a year.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (kUmUV)

+++

That's brutal.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (2+gSO)

456 I just went to Snow's web site. She voted for both ACA and the reconciliation act.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

457 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Bd48Y)

458 Correction, she dis NOT vote for the reconciliation bill. She did vote for the ACA to leave the committee.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

459 1. Get hired for a high profile job in a new field
2. From day 1, 75% + of your coworkers spend their entire day working to get you fired.
3. That 75% enables all of their friends (aka the MSM) to do everything they can 24/7 to get you fired.

Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?


Posted by: shibumi

Do I have a flamethrower?

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (9TU00)

460 The girls will still receive our support at election time. You can bank on it. Just ask Reince.

Posted by: Ronna Romney McDaniel at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (mcI77)

461
Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Bd48Y)


I'm good with that

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (lKyWE)

462 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.



--
And an addendum:
Not just from AoSHQ specifically, but from outside the swamp.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (Bd48Y)

463 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.
Posted by: rickb223

I still want Chris Plante on the podium, just to have the media piss themselves

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (9TU00)

464 I still want Chris Plante on the podium, just to have the media piss themselves



I want D Lamp.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (Bd48Y)

465 Colins voted against the ACA and for the reconciliation bill.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

466 It would be a mistake to attribute definitive political leanings to a non-political person who was in finiance in left wing circles and who probably gave to many differant politicians and causes just to have an in.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

++++

Go look at the guy's tweets and tell me this is someone you trust to have the President's ear.

If we're going to complain about liberal Republicans like Snowe, might want to be careful about who you hire in such a prominent position.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (LHzKO)

467 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (mpXpK)

468 "Also has a nice matching thing if you plan ahead and get a long term care insurance policy before you need it."

Mercatus ranks the state of Varmint as #40 out of 50 for long term fiscal solvency. I wouldn't bet on that matching dealio being around for too much longer.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (ujwCG)

469 Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?

Yeah, by firing people who are trying o prevent me from doing my job. That would be my first priority: clean house, then get the work done.

How can you seek justice if so many of your workers are interested in only social "justice?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (39g3+)

470 Colins voted against the ACA and for the reconciliation bill.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
++++

As far as I'm concerned, she might as well have voted for ObamaACre like every other Democrat considering she's getting in the way of a repeal.

She's not even letting a bill proceed for a vote.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (LHzKO)

471 I want D Lamp.

D Lamp creates a special place for the press:

https://youtu.be/e2PyeXRwhCE

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (IZPn8)

472 "Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!"

also known as, Cruz' s vote to use the Import Export Bank as a tool to hurt boycotters of Israel.

yeah, I don't like the BDS movement either, and I like its fans less. but using a semi-public slush fund to reward friends and harm enemies is, literally, fascism.

and Cruz going for this after arguing against the i.e.b. on those very terms is despicable.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (kqI/Q)

473 Time to sweep and mop. Any volunteers?

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (sf2BM)

474 I distinctly remembering a vote prior to the final vote which paved the
way for the final vote in the house. That's the one in which Collins and
Snowe voted in favor of.
---
I think Snowe helped to vote it out of committee due to 'the call of history'

Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (3Liv/)

475 I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (A3edJ)

Decision "Soon" on Whether Sessions Will Stay or Go


Sessions' allies -- including many conservatives -- are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions, including Trump recently tweeting that had he known Sessions would recuse himself in the Russia matter, he'd've never appointed him AG.

Or, like this one:


I don't think Trump can have what he wants here. He seems to be pressuring Sessions to either un-recuse himself and end the Mueller probe or resign so he can appoint someone new who will end the Mueller probe.

The first seems impossible -- Sessions has declared himself conflicted on that issue -- and the latter seems no more likely.

Anyone Trump names as AG nominee will of course be asked -- repeatedly, and with no wiggle room -- if they think Mueller should continue doing his job. No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation.

Further, I don't even see who would agree to take the job, given Trump's public scoldings of Sessions.

Trump wants something impossible from the AG.

If Trump wants Mueller fired, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do it on his own authority, without trying to find the cover of a lackey to do it for him.

Kurt Schlicter lays out the case for Trump to just man the hell up and fire Mueller -- the right way -- here:

Trump must eventually fire Robert Mueller, a partisan tool carrying water for his Establishment pals as he oversees an utterly corrupt “investigation” where the only person we actually know committed any wrongdoing is his bestest buddy Jim Comey. But Trump can’t just lash out and do it, though it is well within his political and moral right to do so. No, he’s got to do it cleverly, with cunning, in a way that shows the American people exactly why Mueller’s witch hunt is a flaming dumpster fire of conflicts of interest and contempt for the right of normal Americans to have a say in their own governance.

Trump has to set the stage before he pulls the trigger and puts the coup de grace into the temple of this appalling fiasco. He has to do it so the American people will see and understand why ending this idiocy is so absolutely necessary to preserve our Republic despite the mainstream media’s best effort to hide the truth.

Trump needs to seize the initiative from Leaky Bob. You know, I keep hearing how Mueller was this squared-away Marine officer, but through these incessant leaks his organization demonstrates a complete lack of both integrity and discipline. Mueller seems unwilling or unable to exercise any kind of leadership over his team of Hillary donors, or to instill a culture of seriousness and impartiality. The continuing misconduct of his out-of-control, ever-expanding fiefdom demonstrates that he must be relieved of command. And here’s the letter the president should send to him to set the stage to do it....

Huh, maybe Trump should name Schlichter as attorney general. He is a lawyer and an Army cavalry Colonel. Colonels get promoted to general all the time.

BTW: IBD also argues that Mueller's decision to grant himself additional jurisdiction -- and go outside his appointed ambit to search for whatever financial irregularities he can find -- is an automatic firing offense and should be treated as exactly that.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM




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1
May I suggest that the next AG should be....

J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS

For no other reason than to give Holder a coronary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (mbhDw)

2 And now I have the clash in my brain

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (E4p3I)

3 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from day one.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (rAIG/)

4 Keelhaul him.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (LjR2k)

5 Yo, Imma let you finish, but LeBron James had one of the best Decision announcements of. all. time.

Posted by: Kanye West at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (KUaJL)

6
I want my RICO on Soros and the Clintons.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (mbhDw)

7 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.


Huh. *makes note to tell son*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

8 In the past I would have said, don't fire Mueller because the media will make the story explode with the force of 1,000 MOABS.

Now I realize they're going to do that no matter what.
No matter what, some utterly fabricated piece of Russia nonsense will emerge again.

So fire the ruling class hack, tell the media to FOAD, and get back to work.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (72PAC)

9 I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

Great minds must think alike.

Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. Her nice, round ample bosom is to die for in that blue shirt for the Carry Guard ad.

If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

10 Members of the Clinton Crime Family make poor special prosecutors.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (LjR2k)

11 But Trump can't just lash out and do it, though it is well within his political and moral right to do so. No, he's got to do it cleverly, with cunning, in a way that shows the American people exactly why Mueller's witch hunt is a flaming dumpster fire of conflicts of interest and contempt for the right of normal Americans to have a say in their own governance.



At some point, Mueller has got to pony up or gtfo.

Put up evidence or admit there's nothing there. He is a special counsel, not a special prosecutor. He has a limited mandate.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (Bd48Y)

12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

13
Shit status:

[ ] about to get real
[ ] real

Too early to make the call. I do know the left will have nothing but scorched scalps before all this is over.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (EgwCt)

14 >>I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.

Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.

Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

15 "No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation."
________

Yeah, saying one thing to get confirmed and then immediately pissing backwards?

What kind of dishonest idiot would ever do that?

Oh. Wait. Never mind.

Posted by: Wise Latina at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (j+dfT)

16 Um, Ace, Kurt was a Colonel.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Jcg9Q)

17 My last straw with Session was when I heard Little Sisters of the Poor is still being persecuted.

The DoJ must be a bureaucracy the likes of which none of us can conceive. Does Sessions find out about all this shit on the internet and in the papers like the rest of us?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (vg8iE)

18 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM


Higher than that, mein fuhrer, er, Ace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (mbhDw)

19 Have to admit, I just don't get the Sessions replacement talk. Why now? Is the MFM just angling for another scalp?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (JO9+V)

20 Also Trump should just fire Mueller while he is handing out pink slips.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (rAIG/)

21 Trump should appoint an investigator to investigate Mueller.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (zSMr0)

22 Sessions' allies -- including many conservatives -- are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions,
***
This is do or die time. Sessions had failed to "do"...so it is time for him to go.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (eSx+E)

23 I'd be shocked if Sessions doesn't walk.

Trump fucked up here badly. If he had a problem, solve it internally. Don't publicly try to humiliate him.

Sessions was about the only elected Republican willing to endorse Trump early on, that should have counted for something.

I'm starting to think this incredible opportunity Trump has been given will be squandered.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (1+bvq)

24 Trump gets more advice than a referee at a junior. high basketball game.

When are people going to figure out he does what he wants?

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (3myMJ)

25 Much of it is very simple: the AG is not independent like a senator. The AG works for the president. The AG does not announce major policy without clearing it through the boss first. The boss is never to be surprised by the AG's actions.

AG Sessions seems to be having difficulty understanding these little things and acting accordingly.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (hLRSq)

26 Yeah, time to do other things.

Moar hair on fire opera it seems.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (QHd8M)

27 12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)


No regard for Beauregard? Ah say, ah say, ah say....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (mbhDw)

28 Yeah, saying one thing to get confirmed and then immediately pissing backwards?

What kind of dishonest idiot would ever do that?

Oh. Wait. Never mind.


Posted by: Wise Latina at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (j+dfT)
========

Yes. And you were even applauded for giving racist answers to questions at your confirmation.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (vg8iE)

29 Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (72PAC)

30 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

Ah say HEY DAWG!!!

Posted by: Jeffrey S. at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (Jcg9Q)

31
Actually a conversation between Foghorn Leghorn and the hound dog sounds like Sessions talking to Sanders.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (mbhDw)

32 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.



Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.



Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

I hadn't heard Levin in a while although he does get odd notions sometimes.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (rAIG/)

33 27 12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

Sessions reminds me of Henry Gibson

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (O2RFr)

34 Has Sessions even finished cleaning house yet?
The whole place was stuffed full of bigtime SJW'ers by Holder and Lynch.
I don;t know how he's been able to get anything don with the entire DoJ working against him.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (NOIQH)

35 How about you hire an AG who says "I ain't recusing myself from anything. And I don't answer to the President on legal mattes, I follow the law, and ultimately work for the US of A, at the behest of the American people. As for Mueller, I'll decide what to do about him when I get in there and find out what's what."

In other words, the way it should be.

All this nonsense about what Trump can and can't do stops right there. Do the right thing, and quit screwing around playing like it's a chess game.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

36 >>Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.


I'd go with Rudy. He's pretty damn ruthless when he needs to be.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (/tuJf)

37 Sessions allies including many conservatives are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions , including Trump recently tweeting that had he known Sessions would recuse himself in the Russia matter, hedve never appointed him AG.


Then they are not real "conservatives".




It only took me 10 500 errors to post this

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (mpXpK)

38 If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.
____________________
I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.

Posted by: BuckIV at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (CLfqv)

39 New Plan: when the Dems ask whether Mueller should continue his investigation, our nominee should say "Yes, and I think he should even expand it." The Dems will figure he's on their side & confirm him.
Once in office, order Mueller to expand the investigation to include Hillary et al & then simply overwhelm his team with evidence of Hillary's Russian connections.

Posted by: kob at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (55ywz)

40
Interesting if not #FakeNews...

The United States Navy have opened fire on an Iranian warship.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (EgwCt)

41 nominee can refuse to answer on grounds what he would do about Mueller on similar grounds Judicial nominees do not comment on potential cases they might hear.

its not quite as clear no judicial canon of ethics to cite, but the public has already been inoculated with this idea as being kosher.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (xUXis)

42 Sessions was about the only elected Republican willing to endorse Trump early on, that should have counted for something.



--
It did. It got him the job.

Now, he has to produce.

Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Bd48Y)

43 So Sessions gives up his Senate seat and gets viciously smeared during an ugly confirmation hearing in exchange for a few months as Attorney General and an early retirement?

Posted by: Art Deal, Esq. at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (qYCgM)

44 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.


The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.

Posted by: Bonaparte at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Mouru)

45 40
Interesting if not #FakeNews...

The United States Navy have opened fire on an Iranian warship.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (EgwCt)


Warning shots only. Let me know if they hit something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)

46 The Donald seems to have a process for getting angry at somebody:

1. Get angry
2. Call the person in and get angry in person
3. Wait for a change
4(A). If a change, cool off
4(B). If no change, yell on Twitter.

It's not the usual way of handling things.

(As to firing Mueller...there are going to be impeachment hearings if the GOP loses the House. It WILL happen. Might as well get rid of the impediment until then.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

47 seriously though, can trump be blamed for finding himself surrounded by useless and/or dickless members of the GOP?

That's how he won the nomination after all when he strode on to stage to call the presumptive nominee dickless with an ugly wife.

Gee, session's right on immigration but he can't actually do his job.

Gee, the Senate and House GOP really, goshdarn it, want to repeal Obamacare but ... uh... we really need to look into this russia stuff first.

Who are the people that Trump can nominate to do the jobs they're supposed to do when every GOP leader of any stature appears to be dickless and incompetent?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

48 "Anyone Trump names as AG nominee will of course be asked -- repeatedly, and with no wiggle room -- if they think Mueller should continue doing his job. No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation."

Um, unless Trump appoints an AG during an upcoming congressional recess lasting more than 10 days, in which case Trump's choice could handily fire Mueller, then continue serving until January, 2019.

But, oh, my, would tongues wag. Wag, wag, wag.

Posted by: Jamie at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (xuma8)

49 Can Scaramucci do the fandango?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (LjR2k)

50 I don't want to be promoted, I just want out.

Anyone have some Crocs I could borrow?

Posted by: Klinger at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (ctuyM)

51 "Corporal. Corporals get promoted to general all the time."

I was a corporal-captain once.

Posted by: Radar O'Reilly at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (V/f/L)

52 I know it's probably not popular here but trump should lay off of Sessions... At least in public...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (O2RFr)

53 36 >>Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.


I'd go with Rudy. He's pretty damn ruthless when he needs to be.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (/tuJf)


See me at 1. Plus Rudy is problematic in other areas.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (mbhDw)

54 What's the source for the decision soon other than #breaking?

Seriously. What's the source? It's literally just a statement there.

I assume that ALL and I do mean ALL stories based on anonymous sources are lies with made up quotes and, yes, that includes stories that say things I want to hear.

Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

So, yeah, you know what? All y'all can run around with your hair on fire. It might be true. It might not be true. But #breaking? Really? Really? We're considering that reliable?

I happened to catch an ad for a local tv news station last night and the entire ad was about how they tell only reliable, fact based stories with their names on it and they are working to earn the viewer's trust. I think that's fascinating. Someone in their marketing department has discovered that the distrust of media extends all the way down and is at least spinning it that the onus is on the media to earn back trust.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (mf5HN)

55 "I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly
treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from
day one."

I wouldn't say I'm upset, but Sessions took a big risk supporting Trump early. If Trump ditches Sessions now for no good reason (recusing isn't a good reason), then he'll show that he's a guy that asks for loyalty and gives none in return.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (yqvys)

56 Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.
Posted by: rickb223

________

Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?

Remember we were promised he was going to surround himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of incompetent idiots.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (1+bvq)

57 If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.
____________________
I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.

Posted by: BuckIV at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (CLfqv)

Still worth it.

Posted by: Jeffrey S. at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Jcg9Q)

58 This is the problem with the GOP.

They've been culled by the DNC to have only tame sheep. Any Tom Delays or Gingriches have been expelled.

So, who should Trump get to do anything? Everyone with experience seems weak.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (AU4SY)

59 what country boy said at 16 Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Jcg9Q)

Schlichter was COLONEL. big difference.

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xGZ+b)

60 Lay off also means fire.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (LjR2k)

61 Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf?


Actually, if it's because possible laws have been broken, appoint a Special Prosecutor.

May I humbly suggest AtC?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Bd48Y)

62 I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.
Posted by: BuckIV
___________

The Paolo, he has examined himself for bullet wounds, and none to be found. Ever.

Posted by: Paolo at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (j+dfT)

63 Hope Cruz is ready

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (F4kQO)

64 Warning shots only. Let me know if they hit something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)


At 450 feet kinda hard to miss...


A US Navy ship has fired warning shots at an Iranian Revolutionary Guard vessel in the Gulf, US officials say.

It happened at around 03:00 local time (00:00 GMT), as the Iranian ship began to approach the USS Thunderbolt.

A US defence official said the boat came within 450ft (137m), and ignored radio calls and the ship's whistle.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a paramilitary force that answers directly to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

"The IRGCN boat was coming in at a high rate of speed. It did not respond to any signals, they did not respond to any bridge-to-bridge calls, they felt there was no choice except to fire the warning shots," the official told AFP news agency.

The Iranian ship stopped after the warning shots, and the Thunderbolt - accompanied by several US Coast Guard vessels - continued on its way.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (EgwCt)

65 How about you hire an AG who says "I ain't recusing
myself from anything. And I don't answer to the President on legal
mattes, I follow the law, and ultimately work for the US of A, at the
behest of the American people. As for Mueller, I'll decide what to do
about him when I get in there and find out what's what."



In other words, the way it should be.



All this nonsense about what Trump can and can't do stops right
there. Do the right thing, and quit screwing around playing like it's a
chess game.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

The AG does answer to the President. He serves at the President's will.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (rAIG/)

66 Country Boy,

Is Shooting Illustrated one of the options to get with membership or is it something I'd have to subscribe to?

Willowed:

"Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. "

Is that one of the options for members? If so we might switch either mine or my wife's selection.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (d3wbb)

67 GTFO you boney assed Henry Gibson look alike. We've suffered through enough BS under your weak 'leadership.' GFY.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (mcI77)

68 Sigh

Not sure how this helps the Yankee's Starting pitching?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (5y11N)

69 I don't want to be promoted, I just want out.

Anyone have some Crocs I could borrow?

Posted by: Klinger at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (ctuyM)

===========

This is your unlucky day. Report at 0500 for sex reassignment surgery.

Posted by: Your New Improved SJW Army, Now with 100% More Plug and Play Vaginas at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (vg8iE)

70 Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?

Remember we were promised he was going to surround himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of incompetent idiots.

****

I guess the stupid party doesn't have any actual people that Trump can nominate without publicly embarassing the whole party.

As I said above, where's the talent pool for trump to find folks who aren't going to run to CNN and say Mueller is super and gee this russia thing is serious and also, gee, maybe we need a two term president and the house and then senate and a 7-2 supreme court to repeal obamacare.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (AU4SY)

71 Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?



You're right. He shouldn't worry about loyalty or "something be worth something" as you suggest.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (Bd48Y)

72 Hope Cruz is ready
Posted by: AlaBAMA

_______

I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)

73 44 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.


The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.
Posted by: Bonaparte at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Mouru)

Word

Posted by: Zombie Adolf Hitler at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (7HtZB)

74 Ace,


I know you sometimes read the comments, but I just thought you might want to congratulate Patterico privately.

That is all.

Please keep up the excellent work.

Posted by: NJRob at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (hkj67)

75 Why hasn't Brennan been arrested yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (LjR2k)

76 Not interested.

Posted by: Ted Cruz 2020 at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (qYCgM)

77 Schlichter was COLONEL. big difference.
Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xGZ+b)



Meh. Corporal, Colonel, Corpseman. They're all dudes in those fascist military clothes, right?

Posted by: Ex-Prez'nit ShitMidas at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (Mouru)

78 47
seriously though, can trump be blamed for finding himself surrounded by useless and/or dickless members of the GOP?



That's how he won the nomination after all when he strode on to
stage to call the presumptive nominee dickless with an ugly wife.



Gee, session's right on immigration but he can't actually do his job.



Gee, the Senate and House GOP really, goshdarn it, want to repeal
Obamacare but ... uh... we really need to look into this russia stuff
first.



Who are the people that Trump can nominate to do the jobs they're
supposed to do when every GOP leader of any stature appears to be
dickless and incompetent?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

most all of the people he has fired have been Obama appointees.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (mpXpK)

79 Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Bd48Y)

---

Ray Stantz approves

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (PNcou)

80 >>Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

Yes, THIS.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

81 The problem is Mueller. He doesn't even have a specific crime he is supposed to be investigating, so he can never finish investigating that specific crime. He will just keep on investigating forever. He never should have been appointed in the first place. Sessions' recusal led to Mueller's appointment.

But, past is past. What needs to happen now? Mueller needs to be fired. If Trump fires Sessions to get an AG that will fire Mueller, it will be portrayed as some as a Watergate like thing. Trump would prefer Sessions resign, since he won't do his job. But, if Sessions won't do what needs to be done and won't resign, Trump may be forced to fire him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (FUu/Z)

82 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

***

if the GOP leadership consists of people like Jeb and Sessions, then we need to start searching from among the rank and file.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (AU4SY)

83 72
I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.
Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)


Times change. As do people (see Jeff Sessions). And my suggestion at #1 stands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (mbhDw)

84 "Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. "
===========

Oh, me too!! Which ones are your faves? I like the face shots myself, but sometimes the back shots are good too!

Posted by: Shep! at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (vg8iE)

85 PDT is used to getting results or else...It is actually how Gov. Should be, but alas it is not? Is there not G-D in heaven?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (5y11N)

86 Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

The AG does answer to the President. He serves at the President's will.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (rAIG/)


Nope. He serves as the US of A's legal chief officer.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (TOk1P)

87 This is on Sessions. He hamstrung himself and became impotent in the most important battle in a century. Like him or not, and I do - he's a good man, what choice does Trump have?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (F4kQO)

88 most all of the people he has fired have been Obama appointees.

***

obviously.

the problem is finding replacements.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (AU4SY)

89 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

90 Country Boy,

Is Shooting Illustrated one of the options to get with membership or is it something I'd have to subscribe to?

I picked it when I got my membership.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

91 Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

==========
As a fishermen, let me say that fish not biting does not make me stop throwing out chum. Not biting means more chum.

Also, chum is fum.

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (xUXis)

92 75 Why hasn't Brennan been arrested yet?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (LjR2k)


Openly fomenting insurrection is a hanging offense, no?

And Schemer said the same thing if he fires Sessions. SESSIONS!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (mbhDw)

93 IMHO, there are three types of alpha males:

low alpha
medium alpha
high alpha

I'd say Trump is a high alpha.

Sessions might be a low, or even a medium alpha.

However, in the world that he's in, Trump needs a high alpha.

FFS, people are talking about k*lling the president; a low alpha is not going to do the job that he needs to do to drain the swamp.

It's nothing against Sessions; it's just that he's probably not the right person for the job.

Don't send a rat to do a honeybadgers job.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (aT+Bx)

94 I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)

Trump did not deserve Cruz's endorsement... he is lucky Cruz didn't use his time on stage to get really nasty.

And Trump would be stupid to hold a grudge about that at this point.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (rAIG/)

95 You're right. He shouldn't worry about loyalty or "something be worth something" as you suggest.
Posted by: rickb223

_____

I never suggested Sessions should be the Attorney General for an endorsement. I guess Hulk Hogan also deserves a place in the Trump Administration for his endorsement?

My point is, I think Sessions deserved to have this handled better than Trump using tweets and the press to say he regrets hiring him.

Trump should have pulled Sessions aside in private and said "your fired" or "lets' make this work"

That's what a decisive leader does, he doesn't whine to the press.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

96 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

Yooos is serious bout dat?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (5y11N)

97 Sigh

Not sure how this helps the Yankee's Starting pitching?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (5y11N)



Maybe you can get the Iranians to try to plow into them?


My baseball team is being mean to me and looking like they suddenly remembered how to play the game so that means time for a three game losing streak!

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mf5HN)

98 89 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)


Gambini.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mbhDw)

99 I'm no Trump fan ( regard to his style) but Sessions brought this on himself. They are illegally trying to bring down the President who appointed him and he hasn't lifted a finger . That he's playing the victim card through his surrogates makes me dislike him whereas I was a previous Sessions supporter. Should have continued with position of trusting no attorney. Even those that are my personal friends.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (A3edJ)

100 Time to start breeding with other species again. This whole human race thing is O-VER.

Posted by: Repeal and Replace Humans at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (qYCgM)

101 The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.

Or Fuhrer

Posted by: You Know Who at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (qJhUV)

102 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)



Everything that Mueller guy just said is bullshit.

Posted by: My Cousin Vinnie at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (Mouru)

103 How about Jerry Callo?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (LjR2k)

104 90,

Thanks

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (d3wbb)

105 I like Cruz a lot but he's more important in the Senate. There are a lot of hard red states and districts with GOPe nominees what snuck in when no one was looking (remember the fight to get Flynn in the House in that red safe illinois seat what the GOP instead chose a democrat?).

There has to be folks who are younger, still smart, and conservative in Heritage or somewhere who can step up.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (AU4SY)

106 Posted by: Art Deal, Esq. at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (qYCgM)

If you do not follow the boss' policy and in fact oppose it, then you either resign or get fired.

This isn't rocket science.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (hLRSq)

107 Jerry Callo is dead.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

108 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

And you know that the WH hasn't done that how?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (A3edJ)

109 Trump should fire Sessions.

And he should quote every single Democrat who criticized Sessions for being a horrible racist.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (j+dfT)

110 107 Jerry Callo is dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)


What about Jerry Gallo?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (mbhDw)

111 I wouldn't say I'm upset, but Sessions took a big
risk supporting Trump early. If Trump ditches Sessions now for no good
reason (recusing isn't a good reason), then he'll show that he's a guy
that asks for loyalty and gives none in return.
Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (yqvys)
--------------Remember we were promised he was going to surround
himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of
incompetent idiots.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (1+bvq)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
Revolving bigly through a beautiful faux-gold door.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (SsblQ)

112 Jerry Callo is dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

So is Sessions...LOL...He just does not know it yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (5y11N)

113 Iran learning how close they can get before the firing starts...

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (3myMJ)

114 How about Jerry Callo?


There are no "Yutes"involved here

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (O2RFr)

115 If anyone here thinks Cruz would take this job after seeing how PDT is treating Sessions they are nuts. Ace is right, Trump wants the impossible from Session. Further, you people who think he is worthless have a real problem with reality, sorry. He is exactly what PDT needs - someone who puts in the work, does his job and isn't a prima donna.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (AjNMO)

116 "Trump fucked up here badly."

It was a long string of such.

-- Immediately declaring upon victory that there would be no prosecution or even investigation of Clintonworld's huge corruption, because Bill and Hill "are good people", letting Democrats shift from playing defense to instead playing offense

-- Firing Flynn right off the bat, which Trump obviously intended to quiet the Russia furor, but which merely emboldened the opposition (both Democratic and Republican) by handing them an easy scalp

-- NOT firing Comey right off the bat, when Democrats were uniformly screaming that Comey had thrown the election, and Trump had the perfect pretext in place, to can Comey and frame it as "reaching across the aisle"

-- Picking Sessions as attorney general in the first place (the guy's just too damn elderly, for one thing: if the nominee bears a distinct resemblance to Granny Clampett*, they shouldn't be in a high-pressure long-hours post)

* http://tinyurl.com/ycetz7zt

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (ujwCG)

117 Trump did not deserve Cruz's endorsement... he is lucky Cruz didn't use his time on stage to get really nasty.

And Trump would be stupid to hold a grudge about that at this point.
Posted by: redbanzai

__________

But Cruz was totally in the right to hold his grudge?
You can't have it both ways.

Trump needs an AG with uncompromising loyalty.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

118 Actually, if it's because possible laws have been broken, appoint a Special Prosecutor.

May I humbly suggest AtC?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Bd48Y)


Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.

*nods vigorously*

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (mf5HN)

119 Any chance ... if Trump fires Mueller ... that Sessions resigns in protest ?

'Cause I ain't convinced that Sessions thinks the Mueller thing is out of line.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (Niu5G)

120 14 >>I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.

Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.

Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

++++

NeverTrumpers are a special case. They will criticism Trump for anything and everything.

Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (FUu/Z)

121 Yup... when Mueller started going after totally LEGAL Trump finances, even if they WERE with Russia...

He jumped the shark and should have been at the very least, reigned in...

That didn't happen... and expect Trump's financial records to soon leak all over the damn place...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (NgKpN)

122 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)





Gambini.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mbhDw)


Gambino. Gambini. It's all gabbagool to me. Capiche?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (JO9+V)

123 Why can't Sessions just hire a vicious underling and let him (or her) deal with this stuff.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (9TU00)

124 How about Bo Dietl?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)

125 122
Gambino. Gambini. It's all gabbagool to me. Capiche?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (JO9+V)


"Stupid jerk!!"

- - Paulie Gatto

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mbhDw)

126 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional.

WINNING!

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mcI77)

127 Loyalty is not at the top of the list of what Trump needs right now. Balls and brains, however.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (F4kQO)

128 124 How about Bo Dietl?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)


Bo Derek.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (mbhDw)

129 Arpaio.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (LjR2k)

130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

*bzzzt. wrong answer. to the sewers with you*

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (6jaju)

131 And you know that the WH hasn't done that how?
Posted by: Jack Sock

______

Because he's not been fired yet?

I mean if someone in the Cabinet is not working out, simply fire him.

Why on Earth would Trump first go to the NY Times to say he wish he had never hired him?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (1+bvq)

132 126 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional.

WINNING!
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mcI77)


The Constitution is my good reason. But this is very good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

133 So what it Trump effed up? And did so more than once?

Think about his world.

The day he got the job, people on the other side and in his own party started plotting against him. The MSM collueded with the dems, and is continuing to try to end his presidency.

Put yourself in his position. You have a new, high profile job in a field you've never worked before, and at least 75% of the people you work with are spending most of their every day trying to get you fired. They've even enlisted their friends to help you get fired.

What must that be like?



Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (aT+Bx)

134 Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (FUu/Z)

Levin is a purist.

Unfortunately, that doesn't always work in the real world.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

135 130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

*bzzzt. wrong answer. to the sewers with you*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (6jaju)


J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

136 -- Picking Sessions as attorney general in the first place (the guy's just too damn elderly, for one thing: if the nominee bears a distinct resemblance to Granny Clampett*, they shouldn't be in a high-pressure long-hours post)

* http://tinyurl.com/ycetz7zt
Posted by: torquewrenc

***

and so on and so forth...

all of these are hindsight.

At the end of the day, the "russia probe" is the GOP apparatus buying into DNC propaganda and working to further the DNC's propaganda.

There's so much DNC Obama Clinton crap to potentially investigate but nooooo, the dickless GOP does the DNC's job.

Hindsight says not going after Clinton was wrong.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (AU4SY)

137 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

Cruz didn't hold a grudge. He held an opinion of Trump that was well supported.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (A3edJ)

138 Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.




And a fvcking flammenwerfer.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (Bd48Y)

139 Meh. Corporal, Colonel, Corpseman. They're all dudes in those fascist military clothes, right?

Posted by: Ex-Prez'nit ShitMidas at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (Mouru)

Corpseman is my favorite. friggen cadavers. they're everywhere.

My Brother was a Navy Corpsman. "Corpsemen" slays him in the humor department.

sorry for the "slay" pun...couldn't help myself.

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (xGZ+b)

140

Donald Trump is the farkin' BOSS.

He doesnt serve Sessions. Sessions serves the president.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (uvWRL)

141 87 This is on Sessions. He ... became impotent ...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM


May I offer a suggestion?

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (ctuyM)

142 What if Mueller's scope expansion is really to take down Clinton?

Checkout ConservativeExplorer's take.

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (WGcw3)

143 130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

Posted by: GnuBreed
_________

Screw Andrew McCarthy. He also vouched for Patrick Fitzgerald.

Drain. The. Swamp.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (j+dfT)

144 A Massachusetts state bill that would outlaw sex between teachers and students 19 years of age and younger, and which is strongly supported by the police, has yet to be endorsed by the state teachers union.

Well low hanging fruit and all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (5y11N)

145 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

======

If anyone thought the howls of "RACIST!1!11!!!" were awful from Democrats over Sessions, I can only imagine what they'd say about Mr. Adams.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (vg8iE)

146 Trump...cleverly, with cunning

The fuck did i just read?

Posted by: Joe at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (lXME9)

147 Cruz didn't hold a grudge. He held an opinion of Trump that was well supported.
Posted by: Jack Sock

_________

That he couldn't be endorsed over Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (1+bvq)

148 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

That would be a good choice then.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mcI77)

149 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (1+bvq)

It was a catch 22 just like firing Comey now .

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (A3edJ)

150 Yay, constitution.

Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (F4kQO)

151 Arpaio.
Posted by: Boss Moss



Too old. Sheriff Joe is 81 or 82.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (Bd48Y)

152 If Trump wants Mueller fired, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do it on his own authority, without trying to find the cover of a lackey to do it for him.
===========================

1. The GOP-E loathes Trump. Trump is a threat to DC Establishment and the Spice Flow.

2. If Sessions goes, then the No. 2 is promoted back to Acting AG. The current No. 2 is a hard-core Dem and is the guy who appointed Mueller in the first place. He hasn't reined in Mueller's far-afield investigations, has he?

3. I agree with Ace. Trump will have to do the heavy lifting and fire Mueller. And he'll have to fire No. 2 guy, too. Maybe Trump should keep firing people in the DoJ until he finds someone who will play straight.

4. And if 3., then let's see how the GOP-E plays it. We have 50+1 votes in the Senate. They'll have to answer to the voters, too.

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (Pqytn)

153 They have teachers younger than 19?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (LjR2k)

154 Corrupt media + Democrat psychopathy + GOP incompetence + GOP circular firing squad = I GIVE UP, LIFE'S TOO FUCKING SHORT.

Posted by: Armenia of One at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (qYCgM)

155 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)


The Danish fairy tale storyteller? He's dead.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (JO9+V)

156 148 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

That would be a good choice then.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mcI77)


Immediately announce the prosecution of the NBP and BLM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mbhDw)

157 Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.
====
And a fvcking flammenwerfer.
=====
And completely unfettered by scruples

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (w+QnB)

158 A Massachusetts state bill that would outlaw sex between teachers and students 19 years of age and younger, and which is strongly supported by the police, has yet to be endorsed by the state teachers union.
===========

Defining deviancy down.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (vg8iE)

159 Trump should have pulled Sessions aside in private and said "your fired" or "lets' make this work"

That's what a decisive leader does, he doesn't whine to the press.
Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

Once again, you don't know if that meeting has already happened in private or not.

You don't think Trump, the Billionaire who has run successful companies, knows how to MANAGE PEOPLE?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (NgKpN)

160 145 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

======

If anyone thought the howls of "RACIST!1!11!!!" were awful from Democrats over Sessions, I can only imagine what they'd say about Mr. Adams.

****

a truly smart and brave GOP would indeed weigh potential cries of "ryacisisiist!!!" from the DNC before each and every action. The DNC doesn't use those charges lightly.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (AU4SY)

161
The only reason there is a special prosecutor is because Trump appointed Sessions to be AG and Sessions had several meetings with the Russian ambassador in his duty as a senatorwhich nobody has proven Trump was even aware of..At the first whiff of grapeshot Sessions Retreats and leaves Trump and his campaign team to deal with the mess Sessions created

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (lKyWE)

162 This "Sessions kerfuffle" is the kind of "news" "story" that fills the 24-hour-news-cycle when in fact nothing significant actually happens on a day.

It's low-level manufactured filler-news.

Newscasters, on days like this, should go on air and say, "I realize that as a 24-hour news station we are theoretically required to announce news events 'round the clock, but in all seriousness not much is happening at the moment, so we're shutting down the station for a while until a real newsworthy event occurs. Everybody watching, just go outside and enjoy yourselves."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (DQ4Fv)

163 Sorry, I misread that teacher comment. My bad. Strike my comment, please.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (vg8iE)

164 155
The Danish fairy tale storyteller? He's dead.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (JO9+V)

Morrie went down to the boulevard to get Belle some danish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (mbhDw)

165
I like Cruz a lot but he's more important in the Senate. There are a
lot of hard red states and districts with GOPe nominees what snuck in
when no one was looking (remember the fight to get Flynn in the House in
that red safe illinois seat what the GOP instead chose a democrat?).



There has to be folks who are younger, still smart, and conservative in Heritage or somewhere who can step up.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (AU4SY)

I agree... the ONLY place Cruz should consider leaving the Senate for is SCOTUS.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (rAIG/)

166 He is the very model of a modern attorney general.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (IqV8l)

167 128 124 How about Bo Dietl?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)


Bo Derek.
____________________________

Or Bocephus.

Posted by: Hank Williams Jr. at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4AVeu)

168 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (1+bvq)

You may disagree with that opinion but it wasn't based on a grudge.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (A3edJ)

169 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional."

*sigh*

Mentioned that earlier today, but it's all Russia, Russia, Something, Russia.

Seriously - who gives a flying fark?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (MINbv)

170 "Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion."

What the hell-good would that be? Where's your corgis-with-flamethrowers? That's what is needed - a short, easily riled person with boots, a step stool, and a pack of corgis-with-flamethrowers.

Decorum and rationality - ha!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

171 If you think you've seen hysterics up to now, wait'll you see what happens if Trump cans Mueller.

It'll be Watergate all over again.

What do I think? I don't really know. I'm pretty certain that there wasn't a single special prosecutor during eight years of Obama. The Dems will never, ever call for another special prosecutor on a Dem president. Not after what happened with Billy Jeff. I don't know if you can find one who isn't partisan or biased in some way. We're firmly in the Age of You Will Take a Side.

It'll be interesting to see the shit storm if Trump pulls the trigger on Mueller. Go long on popcorn futures.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4ErVI)

172 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?
---

NRA- blue collar guys who want to get things done

GOPe- country club types who won't brawl, or even talk about brawling. It's "beneath them old sport."

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)

173 ... that was well supported.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM]/i]

Preach it!

Posted by: Jacques Le Strappe at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (ctuyM)

174 154 Corrupt media + Democrat psychopathy + GOP incompetence + GOP circular firing squad = I GIVE UP, LIFE'S TOO FUCKING SHORT.

***

I know. right? What the fuck, GOP. You're worthless, GOP.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (AU4SY)

175 If Sessions is indeed leaving, it would be a good time for Trump to just clean house and get it over with.

This death by a thousand cuts from former Obama people has to stop.

Just fire everyone in the DOJ and start fresh.

It's constant outrage 24/7, might as well make the outrage useful.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (1+bvq)

176 "Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper."

So he's not a never Trumper by definition.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (yqvys)

177 From the LA Times



Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions confronted increasing questions about his future as he faced fresh public slaps from his boss, President Trump, and new calls to testify about his conversations with the Russian


he does work for Trump.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (mpXpK)

178 If Sessions goes, I'd bet the Democrats in the Senate delay a replacement for months

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (e8kgV)

179 a truly smart and brave GOP would indeed weigh potential cries of "ryacisisiist!!!" from the DNC before each and every action. The DNC doesn't use those charges lightly.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (AU4SY)

========

Oh, I'm not at all saying anyone should be afraid of their accusations or that they have any merit, it's just that I can hear it all now.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (vg8iE)

180
If Trump cans Mueller, PDT all but guarantees his reelection.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (mbhDw)

181 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional."

*sigh*

Mentioned that earlier today, but it's all Russia, Russia, Something, Russia.

Seriously - who gives a flying fark?
Posted by: Anon a mouse



Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (Bd48Y)

182 Wonder when Mueller is going to "expand" his probe to include the DNC, Fusion GPS, and the Clintons.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (9TU00)

183 Bo Derek. "

Wood.

/yesterday'sthread

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (MINbv)

184 Everyone in the professional political class at the federal level is compromised. Every. One. Of them. No exceptions.

If they weren't compromised, they wouldn't have been allowed to remain in office by those who own and operate the uniparty.

Posted by: Grimmy at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (m+qrc)

185
Since this has escalated publicly then OBVIOUSLY Sessions is being a SHIT to his boss, the president.

Sessions sucks. He needs Go Now.

Ttump NEVER turns on those loyal yo him. Never. Sessions is to blame here.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (uvWRL)

186 150

Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?


Because they are weak, dumb, and corrupt but, mostly dumb.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (mcI77)

187 Do you really think Trump would signal his displeasure with Sessions through Twitter? Trump can call up Sessions at any time and tell him how he feels. He doesn't need to do it through Twitter.

This is all political theater and the press and everyone else is falling for it.

Already Sen. Machin says Sessions should stay. A Democrat insisting Sessions should stay? Do you not see the operation here? Get Dems to publicly say they think Sessions should stay. Then watch as Sessions lays the hammer down on Dems somehow.

As it was said this morning on Fox Business, before Sessions even got in the door at DOJ it was well-known he'd have to recuse himself due to DOJ policy and Sessions' role on the campaign. Do you really think Trump was surprised by Sessions recusal?

And another thing, why would Trump choose the #fakenews NYT for revealing his displeasure in Sessions in the first place? Does that make any sense to you?

Get a grip. Sessions not going anywhere. Would Trump really want Sessions to go and then have to appoint someone else that will take months? I just cannot imagine that at all. All over some ridiculous notion that Sessions hasn't gone after Clinton or Dems?

My guess is Sessions has been working on that stuff behind the scenes, quietly and waiting for the right moment to strike. I'm sure he and Trump have talked on the phone or when he comes over for cabinet-level meetings. You think Trump would do this only via tweets??? RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: K-E at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (uOEHQ)

188 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

F'em.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (MINbv)

189 182 Wonder when Mueller is going to "expand" his probe to include the DNC, Fusion GPS, and the Clintons.

****

did you manage to write that without enduring a laughing fit?

The law doesn't apply to those people, duh.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (AU4SY)

190 Sessions serves the president.





Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (uvWRL)

-------------------------------
He should be serving the US Government on behalf of the American people at the appointment of President Trump.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (SsblQ)

191 Look ... I missed on Sessions too. I thought the guy wouldn't be so limp-dicked.

But looking back - it seems so obvious now. No insider - and anyone in the Senate as long as Sessions is an insider - is going to dismantle a smidge of the DC machine.

But I have no idea how Trump gets anyone confirmed who is willing to dismantle even a smidge of the machine.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

192 Ahh say, ahh say, we just need to tweak them lil ole civil asset forfeiture lawz and we'll have this heaah Hill runnin' like a fine tuned top.

Ain't nuttin moar important than legalized stealin' from the public, ahh say ahh say.

Then we'll blame the dawg.

Posted by: Foghorn Sessions at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (6jaju)

193 176 "Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper."

So he's not a never Trumper by definition.
Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (yqvys)


Mark Levin is not a fan of PDT for sure. But he is NOT a Never-Trumper at all. In fact, he has defended him to the hilt in this Russia crap.

You can argue about the veracity of his various disagreements with him on policy grounds, but Mark Levin ain't no Bill Kristol.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (mbhDw)

194 Didn't Sessions recuse himself after questions from that fraudulently elected Al Franken?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (FJr2+)

195 They haven't repealed Obamacare yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (LjR2k)

196
Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.

====

And a fvcking flammenwerfer.

=====

And completely unfettered by scruples

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (w+QnB)

Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (JO9+V)

197 Because they are weak, dumb, and corrupt but, mostly dumb. "

You said dumb twice.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (MINbv)

198 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?

______

Also because people in the NRA actually care about the issue they are fighting for.

Can you say the same for the GOPe and actual conservative issues?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (1+bvq)

199 of course, back in January, no one knew that the GOP would run with Crooked Hillary's last minute ego assuasion as their policy goal.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (AU4SY)

200 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
______

They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

They don't EVER concede that their opponents are anything other than gun-grabbing totalitarians.

They ridicule and taunt every single politician who advocates for "common sense gun safety measures".

The NRA's effective approach to dealing with its opponents is what has convinced me that the GOP is not serious about doing anything it promises. Otherwise it would adopt the NRA's tactics.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (j+dfT)

201
No, the AG serves the President.

President serves The People.

President is BOSS.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (uvWRL)

202 Bo Derek

Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

203 the problem with the Russia Russia Russia stuff is that it puts the admin on the defensive.

He should arrange investigations into GPS fusion,

Voter Fraud

House IT scandal

Clinton GloboScam

They want hot investigation narratives with juicy leaks, given them TIDAL WAVES.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (MLfEV)

204 >>He should be serving the US Government on behalf of the American people at the appointment of President Trump.

I'm starting to suspect that some people aren't really interested in the law. They just want Republicans to act like liberals.

That should work out well.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

205 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

============

I'm hot, juiced and ready for ya, baby!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (vg8iE)

206 Sessions is too indecisive. The George McLellan of our time.

Like Yorktown, with the enemy straight ahead, and despite overhwelming military numbers, he ruminates and squanders his advantage to time and indecision, equally afraid of both winning and losing.

We need a U.S. Grant.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (4AVeu)

207 Red Hot Chili Peppers: under the bridge.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (xAvrH)

208 If Trump cans Mueller, PDT all but guarantees his reelection.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
_____

If a new AG is installed, doesn't that remove the entire reason for the recusal and special counsel?

Sessions recused himself, not every acting AG forever

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (1+bvq)

209 The DoJ must be a bureaucracy the likes of which
none of us can conceive. Does Sessions find out about all this shit on
the internet and in the papers like the rest of us?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (vg8iE)

That's how I found out stuff.

Posted by: Barry the Worst, God-Emperor in His Own Mind at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (8iiMU)

210 Trump could pull an Eagles and open up the DOJ jobs to anyone willing to step up and clean house. Has to be a few Vince Papale's out there willing to go after these corrupt assholes

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (F4kQO)

211 Sessions CGFH (Can Go something Himself)

the full weight of the DOJ should be in cracking the Clinton Crime Ring, rounding up all the sanctuary city politicians under 8 USC 1324, bagging Soros for funding violent riots, and rolling up the entire web of democong subversion up under RICO
(see http://tinyurl.com/demrico)

I don't really care how many upper-middle class bobbleheads are upset by enforcing the law, and I don't care how many urban riots there are (it's why God invented the riot gun, after all)

Let's get some teeth into cleaning this country up...if Sessions wasn't willing to do that, p*ss on him

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (swEzU)

212
Dont forget: Sessions fucking up the Travel Ban is part of this, too.

He sucks. Sessions is a lousy AG.
Gotta go.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (uvWRL)

213 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

F'em.
Posted by: Anon a mouse...



I'm sure Tim in IL & Zombie wouldn't mind having a CHL.
And JJ & NGU. And possibly CBD.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (Bd48Y)

214 The Senate is a Good Ol' Boys network that is bipartisan in that respect. The GOPe Senators would be furious if Sessions was fired. The Dem Senators would be elated.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (C7iuw)

215 I get up to go to the bathroom, and the TV in the office shows the headline "Seen. Dean Heller votes no on healthcare bill". By the time I come back, it says "Seen Heller changes vote to yes".

Is this vote going to be a shit show? Did he accidentally hit the wrong button, troll Dems, or get a nasty call after the "no".

Plus, now I see they aren't voting on repeal, but some bull shit "skinny" bill? WTF is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Grimaldi at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (V/f/L)

216
But I have no idea how Trump gets anyone confirmed who is willing to dismantle even a smidge of the machine.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

Recess Appointment?

Get a hell raiser in there for 1 Year?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (NgKpN)

217 I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?

I mean, WTF? Is he not discussing his plans ans goals for his Attorney General on at least a semi-regular basis?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (FwQPE)

218 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)


I love this idea. J. Christian Adams has more than a few bones to pick with the Chinless Wonder.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (PY9jH)

219 *sends scab comments to bust bicentennial guy's comment strike*


What the hell-good would that be? Where's your corgis-with-flamethrowers? That's what is needed - a short, easily riled person with boots, a step stool, and a pack of corgis-with-flamethrowers.

Decorum and rationality - ha!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (hLRSq)


I AM NOT EASILY RILED!

Speaking of corgis, as we always should be, did Corgfefe win the corgi naming contest?

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (uvWRL)

221
Here's a firing offense as well.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybfy3yu2

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (1hM1d)

222 218 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

I love this idea. J. Christian Adams has more than a few bones to pick with the Chinless Wonder.

***

What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)

223

Sessions is just another GOP Cuck.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (uvWRL)

224 "Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse? "

Republican's just pay to sit in the corner and watch while the DNC gets yucky with the country.

Cuckservative was an accurate term and needs to be brought back.

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (y67bA)

225 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4ErVI)

At the beginning there was no real controversy of the Mueller appointment even in light of his relationship with Comey. That was accepted as a one off.

Then he started hiring Dem stooges and expanding his investigation. That's when the garbage started to really stink.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (A3edJ)

226 >>>No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation.


I saw that episode of TOS. The Kaganite Manuever.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (nFwvY)

227 What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)


heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (PY9jH)

228 Dont forget: Sessions fucking up the Travel Ban is part of this, too.

He sucks. Sessions is a lousy AG.
Gotta go.
Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (uvWRL)

???

I don't think Sessions was AG yet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (5y11N)

229 220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

*********

ouch. but true.

But in Session's defense, he may be doing stuff we can't see. We know the deep state left landmines throughout the govt. He may have to proceed slowly in some parts.

remember how obama changed the pecking order at DOJ so that if one person was fired the next person was an ever deeper bluer obama drone?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (AU4SY)

230 Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.
=========
Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)

231 Count me as not smart enough to see Trump's end game in all this and how it improves his ability to be an effective POTUS (as defined by him). I'm not anti-Trump, just don't see how all this nonsense helps. It doesn't even seem valuable as a distraction.

Posted by: steve walsh at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (hloNl)

232 Trump might have to do hundreds of recess appointments ... the whole lower tier of schedule C

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (9TU00)

233 I'm starting to suspect that some people aren't really interested in the law. They just want Republicans to act like liberals.

That should work out well.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)



Welcome to the world of playing by the rules as they exist, not as we want them to be.

I do not want to play Will To Power. I know how this story ends. All evidence points to my having lost that argument.

Okie dokie.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mf5HN)

234 205 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

============

I'm hot, juiced and ready for ya, baby!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (vg8iE)


Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)

235 Legitimate question: Who exactly is Mueller accountable to in an official, direct-report sense? Once unleashed (by whom, exactly) is he free to do whatever, however, for however long until he decides otherwise? Is there a Committee in the Senate or House with oversight?

I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (QtQaN)

236 227 What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)

You spelt my name wrong.

But I accept.

Posted by: Hannah Montana at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (72PAC)

237 Am I imagining the Franken questioning of Sessions?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (FJr2+)

238 George McLellan of our time.

Like Yorktown"

Que?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (MINbv)

239 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

Umm-Quite a few people in NJ and NY voted for Trump. They were just overwhelmed by voters from large cities.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (iVOAv)

240 Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)

It's good for what ails ya!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (0mRoj)

241 Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)


Romantic Comedy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (mbhDw)

242 "I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?

I mean, WTF? Is he not discussing his plans ans goals for his Attorney General on at least a semi-regular basis?"

Didn't he start this beef with Sessions with NYT reporters? The purveyors of fake news?

Is it so hard to think it's just more Kayfabe on his part?

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (Mv/2X)

243 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Lash LaRue at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (ctuyM)

244 Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

Recess Appointment?

Get a hell raiser in there for 1 Year?
Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (NgKpN)


Not a bad idea. One year of the kind of shit-storm an actual reformer would face may be all any man can endure.

Not a bad idea at all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (Niu5G)

245 200 They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

Ahem. *Shows off shiny new NRA endorsement back in 2000*

Posted by: Hairy Reed at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (6jaju)

246 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (mpXpK)

Vic!

We've missed you! Plus your neighbor has been looking for you!

Posted by: Chilling the most at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (9Ej78)

247 Do not take MFM narrative on here - I don't think that Trump wants or expects Sessions - or his replacement - to fire Mueller. I think that is a different question. While the Sessions recusal pretty much led directly to Mueller, unrecusing doesn't undo it, and I don't see how unrecusing would work. It isn't even a word. You just can't publicly take the position that it is required by principle to recuse, and then go, well, no on second thought, it doesn't.

The problem, as I said, is that all the stuff about the election (Russia Russia Russia) is the above the waterline stuff that DoJ is doing. All the duck swimming below the waterline is still happening and probably as good as it could be. Hooray, we are trying to break MS13's spine and indicting 500 people who bilked Medicare for BILLIONS of dollars is good and honorable work but it is below the waterline.

The above the waterline stuff Sessions recused himself out of. He did not just take himself out of Russia but every single thing related to the campaign (oh, and anyone who had ANYTHING to do with the campaign is going to be held to the same standard) and that would include Hillary, and it isn't like the timeservers over there are going to pick up that and run with it without leadership from the top.

Sessions recusing may have been correct, but it was wrong to do it without consulting the WH - they were surprised by it and have been reacting ever since. He should have gone to meet the President and said this is where I stand on it and if Trump said you can't recuse yourself he could have resigned right then.

What has happened now is that the President does not have an advocate at DoJ for the things he most needs.

It isn't unusual for the AG to be closely connected to the President, but it is unusual to have the fury of the whole Russia thing around it. Trump needs an AG that was not connected to his campaign so that he does not have to accuse.

And it has to be someone who has the balls to answer the question - because it will come - will they fire Mueller to state unequivocally that they cannot say yes or no because they are not in the position to do so. That they they don't have the intent coming in, but cannot rule it out because what if there is misconduct or misuse of government resources blah blah blah and I will not let the rule of law or the best interests of this country be compromised by promising to limit my own authority or freedom of action, Senator, thank you very much.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (Il37q)

248
So who trust Sessions in the coming fight against sanctuary cities?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (lKyWE)

249 Though I tend to agree that Sessions has it coming, Trump has gone about this the wrong way. You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible. He should have just privately told Sessions to resign or be fired, if that's what Trump wants. Twitter is not the right tool for every job.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (Z+ic4)

250 "Ace is right, Trump wants the impossible from Sessions."

Other people in the White House have also been put in an impossible position by Trump. Consider the utterly ludicrous sequence of events and statements which followed on Trump's private meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak.

WaPo: Trump burned a closely held classified source
WaPo: While speaking off the cuff in the Oval Office
WaPo: A grave breach especially to OMG RUSSIA
Spicer: Nuh-uh
Spicer: No he dint
Sanders-Huckabee: Rully
Sanders-Huckabee: As if
Sanders-Huckabee: Not going to dignify this with a response
Tillerson: Preposterous gobbledegook
McMaster: I was right there in the meeting myself
McMaster: The president said absolutely nothing untoward
McMaster: It's a nothingburger with a side of nullity fries
McMaster: Move along
Trump: The WaPo was right for once
Trump: You bet I said what I said
Trump: And I have every right as President to have said it
Trump: I'd say it again tomorrow
Trump: Loudly, in public
Spicer: ...
Sanders-Huckabee: ...
Tillerson: ...
McMaster: Well, crap
McMaster: I worked 40 years to build a rep as a straight shooter
McMaster: And my boss blew it all up in one 24 hour news cycle
McMaster: But despite that, it's all totes okay, you see
McMaster: Because the President didn't consciously err
McMaster: He was just factually ill informed and out of his depth
The Israelis: We're the ones whose source got burned
Netanyahu: I'm especially personally pissed off over this
Mossad: We're curtailing future intelligence sharing
The media: ADMINISTRATION IN TOTAL CHAOS FILM AT 11
The Republicans: [whimpering, wetting selves, fleeing in panic]
The Democrats: Sorry, laughing too hard to be able to speak
Me: If I shoot myself in the head with two pistols simultaneously, it does increase the likelihood of a successful suicide, right?

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (ujwCG)

251 A lot of the this Trump/Sessions slap fight makes think its all for show. Trump is distancing himself from Sessions so Sessions can fire Mueller or go after a politically hot potato - the DNC/House Email scandal/Clintons etc

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (9TU00)

252
"We need a U.S. Grant."

That's Trump. Can we clone him?

Every time someone asks me what I think of Trumpkins, and points out that he's rude, crude and socially unacceptable, I respond with Lincoln's quote about Grant: I can't spare him, the man fights.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (1hM1d)

253 Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

I don't think people want Sessions to act like the liberals. They just don't want him working with the liberals. He shouldn't have to avoid investigating their wrongdoing which is massive just so he can keep the veneer of being non partisan.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (A3edJ)

254 Do not take MFM narrative on here"

Wait just a sec - you try'n to tell us that stories might not be one hunnerd percent as they're reported?

Why, where would you get that idea?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (MINbv)

255 Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.

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Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)


*puts on running shoes*
I don't have to outrun the Ravage now, I just have to outrun you. I have a chance to live.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (JO9+V)

256 Schummer still jerking off on the house floor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (5y11N)

257 The lefty press has been up in arms about the threat of righty violence against the press. Well, it finally happened.

Except, and this won't shock anyone here, it was in Brooklyn (the home of cool lefty hipsters) and the victim is a righty commentator/pundit.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8kt8ler

It's always the left that is violent and I assume that is what happened here.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (ylUqT)

258 I'm comparing the last months of Obama to the first months of Trump.

Other than entertainment, nothing in my life has changed for better or worse.

I do like Trump's pipeline approvals, his jawboning that has had an immediate chilling effect on illegal border crossings, and his removal of 840 Obama era regulations, exec orders, etc.

As for congress, same as always, no change. They are there for each other, not for us.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (3myMJ)

259 229 220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

*********

ouch. but true.

But in Session's defense, he may be doing stuff we can't see. We know the deep state left landmines throughout the govt. He may have to proceed slowly in some parts.

remember how obama changed the pecking order at DOJ so that if one person was fired the next person was an ever deeper bluer obama drone?
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (AU4SY)

Has Sessions found any leakers?
Has Sessions FIRED anyone in the DOJ?
Hell, has Sessions HIRED any Conservative Staff and Lawyers for the DOJ?

I was in the US Navy when President Reagan was elected, and the Change in the military was immediate in some places.... but in others was slow...

Why? Because some Commanders believed in the change... others... did not... and had to be shown the way...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NgKpN)

260 245 200 They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

Ahem. *Shows off shiny new NRA endorsement back in 2000*
Posted by: Hairy Reed
________

Agreed. That was a freaking travesty. Little Dick Wrangler had always been a reliable 2A vote.

I think the NRA learned that Dims are always totalitarians first. Sorta like the pro-lifers found out with Bart Stupak.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (j+dfT)

261
What? no "should I stay or should I go?" video?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

262 I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?
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Because he wants him to resign and he won't.

he's now trying to embarrass him into resigning.

If he has to fire him, it'll mean there will be republican votes for impeachment. (there already are there, but they don't want it to be known publicly yet. This will give them cover because *THE OUTRAGE TO HIS SACRED HONOR*

So, its like a chess game. Some moves are trapped and you have to pay a price if you want to take that piece off the board.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NF6FK)

263 Mueller was originally appointed by G.W. Bush a devout RINO. He was renewed by Obama so that tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (mpXpK)

264 >>Welcome to the world of playing by the rules as they exist, not as we want them to be.

Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine.

If we agree to doing whatever to advance our cause then there is no point to arguing about any of this because the game is already over. And they won.

I get that Trump is frustrated by a number of topics including the Dems doing an unprecedented slow walk of his nominees. But I don't think he is always fighting back in the smartest and most productive ways.

I don't see any win here by publicly humiliating Sessions for following the law. He spend a few more tweets highlighting that Sessions is doing the right thing unlike the 2 AGs we had for the last 8 years. Lots of gold in that mine and he might actually win support instead of angering a lot of people who are on his own team.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)

265
Though I tend to agree that Sessions has it coming, Trump has gone about this the wrong way. You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible. He should have just privately told Sessions to resign or be fired, if that's what Trump wants. Twitter is not the right tool for every job.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (Z+ic4)


So CNN can leak the breaking news of turmoil in the White House and put what ever spin they want on it?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (lKyWE)

266 In soviet Amerika, the swamp drains you.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (lIZQs)

267 Oh, and there seem to have been improvements at the VA, so that's good.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (3myMJ)

268 "Trump wants something impossible from the AG."
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I think Trump is still pissed about the recusal but he is also growing tired of Sessions pussy-footing around Hillary issues and blatant leaking issues he could easily prosecute, but isn't. Trump just wants Sessions to grow some balls, which does seem to be impossible.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (8b+oT)

269 Sessions has always been somewhat of a zealot regarding drug use. I think he realized the only thing the donks would allow him to do without calling him 'literally Hitler!' is going after drug dealers, hence the appalling Civil Asset Forfeiture ruling. I'm pretty sure Trump voters were by and large not voting for the DOJ to seriously crackdown on potheads. Sessions is a good guy, but he's been a total failure as AG, time for him to go.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (2SG17)

270
Trump has had his fill of Sessions' nincompoopery and it's finally come to a head.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (uvWRL)

271 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)

272 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from day one.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (rAIG/)

I simply don't care. Fire and replace and fire and replace again if that's what it takes. It isn't like the people they fire are going to be cast out in the frozen tundra to fend for themselves and their starving families.

Priebus, Spicer, Sessions et al are simply too soft for the job. They don't seem to understand the stakes.

Posted by: troyriser at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (Fw5cQ)

273 If we,re getting new AG can s/he undo CAF?

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (g+Dix)

274 "Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine."

The problem is that given the position we are now in, that has as much chance of success as asking a member of MS13 to fight by Marquess of Queensbury rules in the prison yard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (0mRoj)

275 Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)


*puts on running shoes*
I don't have to outrun the Ravage now, I just have to outrun you. I have a chance to live.

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Look. I said "fairly low", not "ridiculously Lilliputian".

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (5U2++)

276 If Trump fires Sessions, though, think what it will do for his reputation - the Dems and Press will immediately flip and talk about how awesome and fair and everything nice about Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (Il37q)

277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

He's not an attorney, which would make working as the Attorney General a bit difficult.

He's also a complete meathead even about basic stuff. See for instance his blustering claims as a "firearms expert" that guns frequently "just go off".

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (ujwCG)

278
eh, this whole slow walk of nominees is the Repubs fault, they control the Senate, they are part of the stop Trump campaign. They could ram through everything they wanted if they wanted.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (r+sAi)

279 I do not want to play Will To Power. I know how this story ends. All evidence points to my having lost that argument.

Okie dokie.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me


Y'know, I've said before you don't want me ever to become autocratic ruler of anything. That's because I know the real rules and will play by them and ain't nobody going to be happy with what Imperator Cavil will do, especially when they have to commute along roads lined with heads on pikes.

But y'know, there's an easy way to avoid those impalings nobody wants, and that's to play by the effin' rules that are supposed to be in place instead of 24/7 Calvinball. Except oh, that means some folks don't get what they want, or at least not so easy, so maybe we can just tweak this and redefine that and what do you mean there's a run on sharpened stakes...

It's like nobody's ever done this before so you have no idea what happens...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (AM1GF)

280
Ima workin right now.
Waitll ol' Soothie gets home...I'll set you all straight on what's going on here.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (uvWRL)

281

Yep, Mueller should be fired but should never had been there this long in the first place.

Sessions is weak. He may be nice, but there is something we don't know.

He's afraid to play hardball and sorry, we are up against the fight of our lives.

Sessions should also be going after those calling for a coup of the government.

This sh*t has got to stop and Sessions does not seem to have what it takes. All I hear is "he's nice" and "loyal." But what about effective?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (fceHP)

282 I should calm down my denigration of Sessions--before he comes and takes my property.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (mcI77)

283 277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

He's not an attorney, which would make working as the Attorney General a bit difficult.

He's also a complete meathead even about basic stuff. See for instance his blustering claims as a "firearms expert" that guns frequently "just go off".
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (ujwCG)


He's running for mayor against DeBolshevik.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:17 PM (mbhDw)

284 More Lefties going ape shit in Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:17 PM (5y11N)

285 I simply don't care. Fire and replace and fire and replace again if that's what it takes. It isn't like the people they fire are going to be cast out in the frozen tundra to fend for themselves and their starving families
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Honestly. I think the establishment underestimated the appeal of Donald Trump's built in "YOU'RE FIRED" schtick. That is a large part of what we are hoping to see him do.
Fire a bunch of people, even if it starts with people that you hired. Keep firing until morale improves.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (9S9wK)

286 283 277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

The guy from the sandwich commercials?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (0mRoj)

287 If he has to fire him, it'll mean there will be republican votes for impeachment.
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NF6FK)


Oh FFS take your meds that's ridiculous. The Repubs would never do anything so foolish, it's completely illogical, you're just going off the deep end. Again.*

* shit I learned here

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (Niu5G)

288 Regarding whether or not the Attorney General has powers independent of, parallel to, or superior to the President of the United States, I direct the kind reader's attentions to Article II, Section I of the Constitution:

"The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States."

Period. Full stop.

Now, there are some who will claim that Congress have constrained this by law, leaving hanging the question of just exactly how congressional laws can amend the Constitution.

There are others who will claim that the courts have also constrained this power, also leaving hanging the question of just exactly how judicial opinions can amend the Constitution.

Sessions works for Trump. Sessions does not "work for the United States of America."

Mueller works for Trump. Sessions does not "work for the United States of America."

The Justice Department works for Trump. The Justice Department does not "work for the United States of America."

Trump works for the United States of America as the sole Constitutional repository of any and all "executive power."

Those who don't want Trump to be President have two and only two legitimate, available remedies: 1) impeachment and conviction, or 2) defeating him in the next election.

(Yadda yadda "living constitution" yadda yadda "precedent" yadda how do you think we got into this mess in the first place?)

Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (s5o+q)

289 Heh. The Senate is getting heckled.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (/tuJf)

290 "You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible."
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Maybe Trump has and Sessions is just dragging his ass around the office.

Sessions should have numerous prosecutions going against the leaking of classified intelligence.

Maybe Sessions is doing the Bush family thing where you go all pussified to get along with people who hate your living guts.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (8b+oT)

291 Heh. The Senate is getting heckled.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (/tuJf)

Left wingers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (5y11N)

292 @269- The donks are on board w/CAF. Imagine that policy implemented by commiecrat admin.

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (g+Dix)

293 285 Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (9S9wK)


For what it's worth, I'm still waiting for John Koskinen to be fired. Skinned alive would be preferable, but fired at least.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (mbhDw)

294 Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules.

It gets advanced by making them play by mine.



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Yet somehow, they never do play by your rules.


"Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

295 We're getting pretty close to explicitly abandoning that social contract thingy that those guys in wigs back a few hundred years ago kept going on about and returning instead to a state of nature.

I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (KUaJL)

296 I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).
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Could Trump not just call him in, ask him to identify the specific crime he's investigating, and make it clear that that's the only thing he's allowed to investigate? And if he doesn't agree, THEN he gets fired.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (zSMr0)

297 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)


But will they continue until morale improves?

Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (s5o+q)

298 Caputo to vote yes, but colllins and the scrunt from Alaska still no's....don't Pitch The Bitch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:20 PM (5y11N)

299 More Lefties going ape shit in Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Go long on ape shit futures. Gorilla Pundit told me.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (8b+oT)

300 O/T:

Here we go. Senate taking vote to proceed.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (G0vdT)

301 265 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)

302 "Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

That's the fundamental problem. If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (0mRoj)

303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*

You were saying?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)

304 *makes fingers to eyes to comments*

I see you. Don't think I don't.


Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)


Okay. Tell me how anything is being played by the rule of law right now. I'm serious. Tell me. Tell me how the rule of law is being applied to those in positions of power. Tell me, tell me true.

See, here's the thing. I agree with you. I do not want this world. I've been shrieking into the void about how this is horrible for decades. The void has reared up and said No.

So you'll have to excuse me if I cannot possibly bring myself to pinch lipped scold those on "my side" who decide to go the realpolitik route.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

305 297 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)

But will they continue until morale improves?
Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (s5o+q)


Masochism seems paradoxical to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mbhDw)

306 Schlicter is a lawyer, and he'd probably be a fine AG. Might have a little trouble getting confirmed though.

Posted by: Bob at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (fVGlW)

307 If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation."

Yep. If I'm ever in a fair fight I know I f'd up.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (MINbv)

308 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely
to give pleasure to Sessions.
Posted by: RioBravo
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"IT PUTS THE WARRANTS ON ITS DESK! IT DOES IT WHENEVER IT'S TOLD!"

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (8b+oT)

309 Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog

That makes two Salty Sea Dawgs here.

I was serving in the Navy during the Reagan years too. And that was before I found out a policemen, Indian Chief, and a construction worker were apparently my shipmates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (hyuyC)

310 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)

He's responsible for all of them...what's your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (5y11N)

311 302 "Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

That's the fundamental problem. If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (0mRoj)

When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)

312
We're getting pretty close to explicitly abandoning that social contract thingy that those guys in wigs back a few hundred years ago kept going on about and returning instead to a state of nature.

I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (KUaJL)


'Consent of the governed' is carved in stone. Immovable.

Posted by: The Encyclopedia of Famous Last Words at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (EgwCt)

313 306 Schlicter is a lawyer, and he'd probably be a fine AG. Might have a little trouble getting confirmed though.
Posted by: Bob at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (fVGlW)


Schlichter? I damned near killed her!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (mbhDw)

314 >>Yet somehow, they never do play by your rules.


>>"Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".

Over 1000 state and federal offices have been won in the last 8 years. Trump is just one of them. It's ridiculous to keep saying the sky is falling and all we do is lose when the truth is people are rejecting the left in record numbers.

This country has a lot of rot. That's why we got Trump in the first place. This was never going to get solved in a few months or even a few years. It's going to take time to get this ship back on the right course, with or without Jeff Sessions.

It's not the high road, its the law. I thought we were in favor of enforcing laws. Trump was when he ran on it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (/tuJf)

315 Guys, if you have to resort to explanations that require 11-dimensional chess with quantum tunneling then you need to reevaluate.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

316 When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)


fuckin A

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (5y11N)

317
If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)


His staff? I'm talking about leaks from inside the DOJ.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (lKyWE)

318 Here's how worried the biz world is about all this:

"Charting a slow-motion summer breakout, S&P 500 confirms bull trend"

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (3myMJ)

319 Now, there are some who will claim that Congress have constrained this
by law, leaving hanging the question of just exactly how congressional
laws can amend the Constitution.
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That and the fact that the Judiciary Act and not the Constitution created the Office of the Attorney General.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SsblQ)

320 I was serving in the Navy during the Reagan years too. And that was before I found out a policemen, Indian Chief, and a construction worker were apparently my shipmates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (hyuyC)

Before you came out with the hit tune "YMCA"?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (EgwCt)

321 301 265 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk



If they were his own staff from the get go and not lifer drones that he was saddled with and can't get rid of? Yes.

If not, no, not 100%.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (Bd48Y)

322 316 When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)


fuckin A
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (5y11N)


Attorney General Vinnie Jones.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (mbhDw)

323 There's a line of thinking in the deepest corners of twitter that Mueler and his team of Clinton people were brought in specifically to investigate Hillary & the Clintons. The thinking goes that in the next week or so, we should start hearing from Mueller about where the REAL investigation has gone. The expansion into finances is meant to target the Clinton Global Enrichment firm and others.

Not saying I believe that, but it's either that or the dumpster fire witch hunt it looks like. Trump's a smart guy and him just being in DC has given everyone enough coronaries that the swamp will go to extreme lengths to ensure a non-DC affiliated person never, ever becomes president again. I'm amused, but on the fence as to whether this is 18-dimensional chess or a clusterfark the likes of which none of us have ever seen.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SIVRK)

324 235
Legitimate question: Who exactly is Mueller accountable to in an
official, direct-report sense? Once unleashed (by whom, exactly) is he
free to do whatever, however, for however long until he decides
otherwise? Is there a Committee in the Senate or House with oversight?



I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters
for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think
create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (QtQaN)

I'm pretty sure that the Deputy AG, Rosenstein, has oversight over a Special Counsel. Note also that he is not an Independent Counsel a la Fitzgerald -- that law has expired. He is a Special Counsel who reports to the DOJ.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (jK8Z7)

325 I like Sessions, but he serves at the pleasure of the president. If he is as honorable as all claim, then he should offer his resignation since PDT has questioned how he is doing the job of AG OR he should comply with the general guidelines of his boss, PDT. If he is unclear on the guidelines then seek out the boss and get a clarification. FYI, Being a good man does not mean that Sessions is a good subordinate.

Posted by: Locke Common at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (mLnfL)

326 @277-and Dietl has a table at Rao's!

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (g+Dix)

327 1. You wanted repeal of Obamacare.
2. You'd settle for replacement of Obamacare
3. You'll get a vote on a motion to proceed with debate.

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (MxEKc)

328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

329 Guys, if you have to resort to explanations that
require 11-dimensional chess with quantum tunneling then you need to
reevaluate.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

----------------------------------------------------
There is a great deal of creativity in the analyses though.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (SsblQ)

330 303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*
You were saying?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)


Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.

I know - I know - that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social. Damn the luck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (Niu5G)

331 No Dem's voted....yet.

Resist!

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (G0vdT)

332 The bobbsie twins suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (5y11N)

333 326 @277-and Dietl has a table at Rao's!
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (g+Dix)


Dietl is running for NYC mayor against Warren DeBolshevik.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (mbhDw)

334 As JJ Sefton posted: I want my RICO on Soros and the Clintons.

I second that motion. All in favor . . .

Posted by: Locke Common at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (mLnfL)

335
Actually, Dietl was supposedly running for mayor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)

336 Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SIVRK)

Uh.... unless there is proof of Russian collusion with the Clinton's, it would be out of Muellers mandate....

The Clinton stuff is ALL on Jess Session's shoulders, not Muellers...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)


Cunts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)

338 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

339 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No


Ten paces. Turn. Fire.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mcI77)

340 People who care nothing about us are voting on whether to debate something.

Excitement.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (3myMJ)

341 As long a Caputo is in, don't need those two.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (Il37q)

342 On a serious note how can collins and murkowski rartionalize not voting to debate? Scunts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

343 337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)


Cunts.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)


Actually, McConnell is the cunt because they don't do jack shit without his approval.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

344 Before you came out with the hit tune "YMCA"?

"In the Navy"

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (MINbv)

345 Trump should go on TV and state his case before the American people BEFORE Mueller is fired. He should lay out what Mueller was appointed to investigate and withing what margins. He should stress that Mueller is not a Special prosecutor and that he has no mandate to stray too far afield from the parameters of the original investigation. He should point out that Mueller hired many Hillary donors and that the real subject of Mueller's investigation should be Democrat collusion with Russia.
Finally, he should say that he's 'thinking about" firing Mueller so that hen it does occur it won't be such a shock--no matter how hard CNN pretends otherwise.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (7uYFy)

346 338 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)


I assume Pence is there as well to pull it over the finish line if need be?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

347 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

It's in the bag...that is why McCain is there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

348 >>Uh.... unless there is proof of Russian collusion with the Clinton's, it would be out of Muellers mandate....

There is a hell of a lot more evidence of the Clintons colluding with the Russians than Trump.

#BringBackOurUranium

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (/tuJf)

349 264 = cuckservative.txt

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (WGcw3)

350 that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social"

That ain't ice cream... or fudge.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (MINbv)

351 I assume Pence is there as well to pull it over the finish line if need be?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (5y11N)

352 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

Sounds probable.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (3myMJ)

353 47 Yeahs. Three R's yet to vote.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (G0vdT)

354
So the scrunt sisters can vote to repeal under obama but not Trump. hmmmm... its as if they are fake repubs or something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (r+sAi)

355 The Clinton stuff is ALL on Jess Session's shoulders, not Muellers...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)


No, read my wall of text above. Sessions did not just recuse himself on "the Russia investigation" but on everything related to the campaign (go ahead, look it up.)

As such, he cannot "go after Hillary." Like I said, no one else at DoJ is going to pick that up and run with it absent a focus from the top.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

356 330 303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*
You were saying?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)

Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.

I know - I know - that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social. Damn the luck.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (Niu5G)

/fist bump.....

got a new 'game' I've been playing with me friends....

Modern Functional 36 inch Saber, and 45.... in close combat against multiple targets...

Using an Airsoft gun during simulations against multiple live targets.... its... interesting...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)

357 337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

Cunts.

Can we use "cucks" for women too or do we need a special word? cuckettes?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (ul9CR)

358 Nood.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

359 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (mpXpK)

360 Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.


I'll never make the camps.
But I won't be making the trip to hell alone.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (Bd48Y)

361 It's in the bag...that is why McCain is there.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

He's going to be the last vote. Seeing himself as the White Knight to save the Republican party......or not.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (G0vdT)

362 At least at the carnival we'd get a big cheap stuffed animal for winning.

Here, we get to hear them talk more.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (3myMJ)

363 247 Blaster's post is one I agree with. I would also add that according to Trump, Sessions didn't tell him before he appointed him that he would need to resign from any campaign issues that might come before the DOJ.
He subsequently told the confirmation committee and then the Senate, when he was asked if he would recuse himself, that yes, he would recuse himself from any issue with Russia. He was then asked further about recusing himself from campaign issues(remember, the fact that he had NOT disclosed on his paperwork for confirmation that he had met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign, although in his function as a Senator) had been leaked at that point and was a red alert for the media and the Democrats.

Sessions was caught , had to apologize, then added in the recusals as a way to garner support.

The Dems played it well. Should Trump have asked him to step down from the confirmation process at that point and give the Dems ANOTHER scalp? Or do what he did, continue his support of Sessions, only to then be besieged by leaks from Comey of Russia Russia, have Rosenstein fire Comey, and then Rosenstein recuse himself from the investigation by appointing a "special prosecutor" all arranged by Comey, Schumer, and the deep state, with Rosensteins blessing.

Trump is trying to find help for the WH from the DOJ, and it's not there. He is going to have to do something.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (FggK5)

364 Vote GOP! The Party of Cvunts and Cvucks!

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (7uYFy)

365
btw, just move Sessions to a different job since he recused himself from acting as an AG on dem crimes. Administrations shuffle top people all the time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (r+sAi)

366 304 "pinch lipped scold those on "my side" who decide to go the realpolitik route. Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

Somehow I can't picture you scolding anyone through pinched lips...a full on blasting for stupidity yes...no pinched lips though.

Luckily for me, I'm going the "stockpile ammo route"

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (xGZ+b)

367 Hey kids! Do you know how you get the rule of law?

HINT: It's not by letting a big chunk of people run around refusing to abide by it, let alone holding high office.

The law doesn't enforce and protect itself. There are no gleaming diamant and brass angels going to see to it The Law functions. You need people to abide by it, enforce it, and deal with those who refuse it.

And you don't win by refusing to fight.

And if you can't see that by now, nothing I can say will change that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (AM1GF)

368 Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

Damn.... you are correct...

I ... sit.... corrected...

Hell, it means he can't even go after VOTER FRAUD... /facepalm

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

369 321 If they were his own staff from the get go and not lifer drones that he was saddled with and can't get rid of? Yes.



If not, no, not 100%.

Posted by: rickb223


There are ~ 4k employees at the WH (executive branch), of which about 400 are appointed slots. iirc. Lots of space for unfireable leakers.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (6jaju)

370 Modern Functional 36 inch Saber, and 45.... in close combat against multiple targets...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)


I bet that's a damn good time training for.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (Niu5G)

371 Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

To claim that everything to do with Clinton is about the campaign is just another surrender. If it's ambiguous it should default to not related to the campaign. If you concede to every Dem demand or position then you are not doing your job. He's been confirmed. He doesn't have to play nice,

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (A3edJ)

372 Part of me wants to believe that this is all some WWE type drama being played out. The Donald has some experience with scripted roles.

A red herring for the press to fixate on while some heavy lifting is going on backstage.


I can hope, can't I?

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (ifORZ)

373 Br'er Trump is throwin' Br'er Sessions into the brier patch. We got 'im now.

Posted by: Br'er Shumer at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (fSf/G)

374 Switch over to FBN and you won't have to hear Shep.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (lIZQs)

375 Trump has an unlimited number of people who would take the job. Sessions is looking more and more like a trap-for-Trump. Sessions may un-recluse. Seems to be ambitious. Sessions would have already resigned if Sessions had more honor than a regular politician.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (cfHE9)

376 "including many conservatives"

Turns out there are as many definitions of conservative as there are people claiming to be one. Glenn Beck claims his conservatism on his radio program five days a week. Don't think Beck's conservatism is anything like Rush Limbaugh's. Not that I consider Limbaugh a standard.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (cfHE9)

377 If I was Sessions I would immediately fire Mueller, saying "I recused myself on Russia not Trump's finances. If you had stuck to the Russia collusion probe I would have left you in place."

Then I'd appoint a special counsel on Clinton Foundation and the Clinton emails plus the DNC/DWS Pakistani IT issue.

That is the way back into Trump's heart. And I don't blame Trump a bit because he's getting shit support from anyone.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (kfcYC)

378 >There's a line of thinking in the deepest corners of twitter that Mueler
and his team of Clinton people were brought in specifically to
investigate Hillary the Clintons.

not trying to be snarky, but why would his team of democong donors and Clinton Foundation lawyers (one of whom has defended Clinton cronies before) go after the hand that feeds them?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (swEzU)

379 My expectations of Trump were right, he's an orange version of The JEF & a vindictive SOB.
I'm glad I stayed home on Election Day.
I'm with Mark Levin, keep Sessions.

Levin picked the lessor of two evils, Trump, but criticizes him all the time & if he fires the First
& only senator to endorse him & probably helped him win the South, it further proves that Trump expects fealty & does not repay loyalty.


Posted by: Carol at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (NKOy9)

380 Do you think that either Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder would have recused themselves? Holder was held in contempt of Congress and didn't even blink. I love Sessions but he was not the right man for this job, he's simply been in Washington for too long. He's infected, with everything wrong with the GOP. Suicidal bi-partisanship.

Posted by: DFCTomm at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (50gG9)

381 But Cruz was totally in the right to hold his grudge?

You can't have it both ways.



Trump needs an AG with uncompromising loyalty.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

Actually Cruz was totally in the right on that.
Trump was playing hardcore dirty ball including accusing Cruz's father of being in on Kennedy's assassination. Trump is lucky Cruz did not nuke him from space for that in the time that was allowed him by the rules of nomination (as a reminder, Trump could NOT stop Cruz from speaking... he had earned his speaking time by virtue of his state wins).


There is an order of magnitude difference between bold-faced lying about someone and refusing to say nice things about the person who lied their bold face off about you. Cruz had a right to be very angry... Trump did not.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (qf8IB)

382 Sounds like the decision is made. It's the execution that's being decided...

Posted by: macleod at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (I7blG)

Fusion GPS Co-Founder Will Plead the Fifth

Not that it matters. Apparently the only thing that matters is Jared Kushner's closed door testimony, and what Adam Schiff will claim he heard leaked about it later.

Glenn Simpson, whose Fusion GPS firm has been tied to anti-Trump efforts and pro-Russian lobbying, will not talk to lawmakers in response to a subpoena, the leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committe said Friday.

Committee chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and ranking member Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., confirmed in a statement that they subpoenaed Simpson to appear before the committee Wednesday as part of a hearing about the influence of foreign lobbying in last year's presidential election.

"Simpson’s attorney has asserted that his client will invoke his Fifth Amendment rights in response to the subpoena," Grassley and Feinstein said.

It's an op.

By the way, the Democrats took "intel" from Russian spies and spread it around.

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trump’s campaign aides, such as coordinating

...

Mr. Steele makes clear that his unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He identified his sources as “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” a former “top level Russian intelligence officer active inside the Kremlin,” a “senior Kremlin official” and a “senior Russian government official.”

Posted by: Ace at 12:25 PM




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1
I'm just waiting for the committees to ask the important questions ... like why Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's Sunday Washington Post.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (e8kgV)

2 Hey, if there was a Republican AG he could actually open an investigation into this...right?

If only we had one.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (eSx+E)

3 Top ten!

Posted by: Uncle Si at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (ZLmoR)

4 Top ten?

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (Jcg9Q)

5 If he's pleading the 5th, then what crime did he commit? Our benevolent MSM Overlords haven't reported on any crimes from Fusion GPS. Must be a mistake.

Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (FEAjO)

6 I'm just waiting for the committees to ask the important questions ...
like why Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's Sunday
Washington Post.
___
I think when you spread the newspaper around it's good for everybody

Posted by: Barack Hussein Sanders at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (eSx+E)

7 Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (e8kgV)

8 WHERE THE F IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL????

oh... that's right, he recused himself from the biggest political plot in recent memory.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (NgKpN)

9 Must be nice to break the law and simply declined to be prosecuted.

Posted by: tbodie at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (zsMTB)

10 Crooked as a snake and probably a liar as well.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (mpXpK)

11 These puppets are so life like. I love theatre.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (pUDQf)

12 Because of Course he will...because FVck you all

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (NmR1a)

13 But But But Ryan will defend this as fair

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (5y11N)

14 >>I think when you spread the newspaper around it's good for everybody


Michele will still shit on the carpet, Barack.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (qQq11)

15 Oh and Bill Kristol can eat shit and die too.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (Jcg9Q)

16 15 Oh and Bill Kristol can eat shit and die too.
Posted by: Country Boy


This X2

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (FZYNt)

17 So I guess the standard response to a subpoena now is "Fuck you"?
Would that work for me?

Posted by: tu3031 at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (qJhUV)

18 oh... that's right, he recused himself from the biggest political plot in recent memory.
___
Heh? Well at least I didn't recuse myself from the early bird special at Country Kitchen!

Yum.

Posted by: Slumber'n Sessions at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (eSx+E)

19 Are you now or have you ever worked for those SOB Democrats ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (e8kgV)

20 Lois Lerner, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Oh, you're summering in the Hamptons? Never mind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (PY9jH)

21
Abi Wilkinson is a slag.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (mbhDw)

22 Horseshit from start to finish. Yet people are still buying it. Sometimes I just want off this planet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (0mRoj)

23 Pleading the Fifth seems to be all the rage these days.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (PY9jH)

24 Remember the message. The laws and truth are dead. Do as your heart desires.

You always reap what you sow and progressives are growing fields of anarchy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 12:31 PM (pUDQf)

25 17 So I guess the standard response to a subpoena now is "Fuck you"?
Would that work for me?
Posted by: tu3031 at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (qJhUV)

Doesn't work for serfs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

26 I think when you spread the newspaper around it's good for everybody

Posted by: Barack Hussein Sanders at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (eSx+E)

... except Bernie's neighbor never gets to read the darn thing.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:31 PM (e8kgV)

27 He will plead the 5th so he will not have to lie his ass off and get caught in a felony rap.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:31 PM (mpXpK)

28 >>>By the way, the Democrats took "intel" from Russian spies and spread it around.

Not just Democrats.

Posted by: John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:31 PM (FUu/Z)

29 FYNQ.

Posted by: nip at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (VqJRJ)

30 Just this morning, a prog in my fish wrap said Trump and the Russians is the greatest presidential scandal in history.

I can't even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (PY9jH)

31 "Simpsons attorney has asserted that his client will invoke his Fifth
Amendment rights in response to the subpoena," Grassley and Feinstein
said.
***
Bring him and and make him physically plead the 5th.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (eSx+E)

32 Trump is right - Sessions is a bust. Just an old apparatchik who guess right in the last election.

The real problem is that I think the skillset that leads one to be elected to either the Senate or the House does not include any of the skills needed to actually do any real job effectively.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (V2Yro)

33
Pleading the Fifth seems to be all the rage these days.


The only part of the Bill of Rights that matters to them right now.

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (2z74n)

34 We thought Trump was our last chance at righting the horse.

Turns out we were at least 4 years too late.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (KUaJL)

35
... except Bernie's neighbor never gets to read the darn thing.
***
I'm pretty sure that's what Obama had in mind as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:33 PM (eSx+E)

36 20
Lois Lerner, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Oh, you're summering in the Hamptons? Never mind.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (PY9jH)

That is the main reason Trump fired Sessions.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:33 PM (mpXpK)

37 "If I testified truthfully, it would prove I'm guilty."

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 12:33 PM (2z74n)

38 Speaking of that "dossier", is McCain made his appearance in DC yet?

Wondering if he will look like a SPECTRE villain, kinda like Harry Reid a few years back after the exercise band "accident"

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:34 PM (FZYNt)

39 I will repeat. We are were we are with this Russia hysteria because Our Betters read that ludicrous dossier and thought it was real.

Remember how The Rick Wilson get going on and on and on and ON about how there was something going around and all the press saw it and it was devastating and someone had to be brave enough to make it public?

Yeah. It was the dossier which was ridiculous on the face of it.

John McCain fell for it and took it to the FBI.

Just how freaking gullible are Our Betters?

Which brings me to this: What is going around now that everyone is reading and everyone totes knows this is true omg and that's making the basis of all of this outright insanity about Russia? Because it sure seems like there's something.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 12:34 PM (mf5HN)

40 According to Rand Paul the bill the Senate will be voting on this afternoon is a clean repeal.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (UBzPO)

41
''Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.''
Ronald Reagan

''Freedom is about one half generation away from extinction.''
Me

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (EgwCt)

42 34 We thought Trump was our last chance at righting the horse.

I didn't know I was wrong

Posted by: John Kerry at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (FZYNt)

43 The real problem is that I think the skillset that leads one to be
elected to either the Senate or the House does not include any of the
skills needed to actually do any real job effectively.
***
I have a hard time believing that there is not a kick ass state AG or prosecutor who could come in and right this ship. Give him whatever budget he needs and allow him to bring in his own people....as long as within 30 days he has a investigation started of

FF
Benghazi
Clinton Foundation
Fusion GPS
Who really murdered Seth Rich

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (eSx+E)

44 So if congress has no authority any more, what's the point of congress? Surely no one will ever bother with another congressional investigation committee as they are now the equivalent of a limp wang against a Quaker virgin.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (pUDQf)

45 We don't need you to incriminate yourself, we need you to incriminate the others (and they you). Fifth? Denied.

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (2z74n)

46 If certain "conservatives" think Trump is bad for the constitution, wait until they get a deep state take over of the country.

You can always vote out Trump, you cannot vote out the leaders of a deep state coup.



Posted by: William Eaton at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (MuTTO)

47 Of course he'll plead the 5th. Also fled the country to miss his scheduled date to testify.

Fusion GPS was founded by, and staffed with, former journalists, right?


Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (NOIQH)

48 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (e8kgV)

49 Trump is right - Sessions is a bust. Just an old apparatchik who guess right in the last election.

The real problem is that I think the skillset that leads one to be elected to either the Senate or the House does not include any of the skills needed to actually do any real job effectively.
Posted by: Tom Servo



I'm 50 - 50 on picking them.
I picked Trump from jump street.
I was also for Sessions.
Did I ever blow that one.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (Bd48Y)

50 Does anyone besides me think Adam Schiff looks like one of the creepy bald dudes from the Buffy The Vampire Slayer Episode "Hush"?

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (OD2ni)

51 A former intelligence official is urging the intel community to actively sabotage national security and attack the president. That's how unhinged the Donald's opponents are. So I'm guessing that the truth isn't going to slow them down much.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (RD7QR)

52 If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th every single time.

Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FEAjO)

53 So if congress has no authority any more, what's the point of congress?
***
Congress's primary power was always budgeting...but they already gave that away.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (eSx+E)

54 48 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD

Headline: Sessions has a pulse. News at 11

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FZYNt)

55 6 I'm just waiting for the committees to ask the important questions ...
like why Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's Sunday
Washington Post.
___
I think when you spread the newspaper around it's good for everybody
Posted by: Barack Hussein Sanders at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (eSx+E)

If Bernie was liberating the Washington Post Sunday Edition from his neighbor, isn't that petit larceny?

Oh wait, those laws are not for the "beautiful people".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (jxbfJ)

56 What a bunch of evil selfish self-serving confederacy of conspirators is the Democrat Party. Doing the Copperheads proud they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (QHd8M)

57 39 Well,it doesn't matter because Mueller with an army of Democrat donating lawyers is roto rootering everything in Trump's history and business dealings.Something will be found and Pauline Ryan will not take impeachment off the table I'm guessing..

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (rmVvL)

58 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.


--
Dude. You work at the pleasure of the president.

You're fired!


Do you not watch Madam Secretary?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (Bd48Y)

59 Nothing bespeaks innocence quite like invoking the Fifth Amendment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (SRKgf)

60 Sessions is like Lindsay Graham with 1/2 a dick.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (qQq11)

61 31 "Simpsons attorney has asserted that his client will invoke his Fifth
Amendment rights in response to the subpoena," Grassley and Feinstein
said.
***
Bring him and and make him physically plead the 5th.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (eSx+E)

++++

This. There is no 5th amendment right to avoid taking the witness chair because your lawyer claims you intend to take the 5th. You actually have to assert it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (pvjTE)

62 The more we investigate Russia and the 2016 Election the closer we get to the Democrats.

Funny, that.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (hLRSq)

63 Maddening, isn't it?

Posted by: dananjcon at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (WLK0w)

64 To get ahead just accuse your enemies of everything you're doing.

Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (8b+oT)

65 Hey - I'm miffed here. As a "senior Russian official" and all that.

See, I got this badge from a Cracker Jack box.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (MINbv)

66 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.
***
Give him 48 hours to prepare a report listing where his department is on

FF
Benghazi
Clinton Foundation
Fusion GPS
Who really murdered Seth Rich

If the answer isn't "my team will have indictments ready within the next week" on [specific names and specific crimes], tell him he can consider himself fired.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (eSx+E)

67 Not only are the Russians laughing their asses off every day, so are Obama and ValJar.

"Valerie, can you believe the shit we got away with for eight years? Bwahahahahahaha!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (PY9jH)

68 According to Rand Paul the bill the Senate will be voting on this afternoon is a clean repeal.
=========

BEEP BEEP

Posted by: John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (vg8iE)

69 If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th every single time.

Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FEAjO)


Someday, when we have a Republican Party that represents us, that may just happen. Until then dream on.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (EgwCt)

70 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD


Good thing his boss isn't someone whose catch phrase for years was, "You're Fired", eh?

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (AM1GF)

71 If Bernie was liberating the Washington Post Sunday Edition from his neighbor, isn't that petit larceny?

Oh wait, those laws are not for the "beautiful people".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (jxbfJ)



Redistributing the bullshit.

(Do the Sanders now count as beautiful people? Yow. I have one word for you: optometry.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (SRKgf)

72 Ine comink bak today vote vote

Posted by: Drooling John at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (HgMAr)

73 Maddening, isn't it?"

No. Laughable is more like it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (MINbv)

74 May it be that the whole Russian collusion thing finally becomes clear and the world can see that yes, there was collusion, but it was Democrats colluding with Russians, which they were.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 25, 2017 12:39 PM (yL25O)

75 A humor break, courtesy of Iowahawk, Stephen Miller and the United States taxpayers funding of important scientific research.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8xxvqo6

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (ylUqT)

76 Bring him and and make him physically plead the 5th.

Posted by: 18-1
-----
This. Makes good campaign ads.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (8b+oT)

77 64 To get ahead just accuse your enemies of everything you're doing.
Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart

Don't forget to "Ring Those Phones!"

Posted by: Jim & Tammy Bakker at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (FZYNt)

78 You know ... I've seen about fucking enough of Chuck Grassley's ass to do me a lifetime.

Yes Chuck - you got in the papers again. No Chuck - nobody is surprised you were told to piss up a rope again during one of your pissy little hearings.

But Chuck followed the process. Great job Chuck. Now go get Iowa some more corn subsidies, you useless Republican fuck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (Niu5G)

79 I shot the Sheriff
...but, I did not shoot the leaker from the DNC.
No.
No.
No

Posted by: Peter Tosh at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (qQq11)

80 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.

...

Is he going to call his bluff by investigating somebody finally?

Posted by: TexasDan at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (yL25O)

81 Who investigates Fusion, Sessions or Mueller?

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (4e+hS)

82 Do you not watch Madam Secretary?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (Bd48Y)
========

What's that? I'm just now catching up on Mayberry RFD.

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (vg8iE)

83 Does anyone besides me think Adam Schiff looks like
one of the creepy bald dudes from the Buffy The Vampire Slayer Episode
"Hush"?

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (OD2ni)


He looks like a toe mounted on a Q-tip.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (PY9jH)

84 If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th every single time.

Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FEAjO)



THIS.

And make every question a leading one, so that the questioner is in effect putting words in his mouth.

"So you did conspire with the Democrat Party to smear Trump and undermine his lawful authority, right?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (SRKgf)

85 The top White House spokesperson warned Tuesday
that President Trump's frustration with Jeff Sessions is not going away,
moments after the president tore into his attorney general on Twitter
as VERY weak on Hillary Clinton's supposed crimes.










Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee
Sanders, speaking with Fox Friends, also neither confirmed nor
denied reports that Trump has discussed the possibility of firing
Sessions and did not rule it out.




So Trump hasn't fired him yet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (mpXpK)

86 If anyone in JustUs was serious, they could offer immunity to these lesser scum and then actually investigate and prosecute the Big Dogs.

Holder/Lynch passed out immunity like candy, but no prosecution of the criminals.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (HQuBO)

87 "If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th every single time.

Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FEAjO)"


So long as they do not allow him to make a self-serving opening statement first like they did with Lerner. Gowdy dropped the ball on that one.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (OD2ni)

88 Part of me wonders if Putin, rather than trying to get Trump elected, was working with the DNC to plant the "Trump-Russia!!11!" story line.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (7HtZB)

89 What is Trump waiting for re: Sessions? That situation is not going to improve.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (UBzPO)

90 If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of
the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th
every single time.
***
That would be glorious....

Did you and Hillary Clinton directly conspire with Vlad Putin?

I take the 5th

How many foreign countries did you and Hillary Clinton conspire with to affect the outcome of the 2016 election?

I take the 5th

Did you and Hillary Clinton engage in electoral fraud in 2016?

I take the 5th

Did you and Barack Obama work with intelligence agencies to unmask prominent Republican figures?

I take the 5th

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (eSx+E)

91 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.

---

Horde, quick question: can anyone remember a time when Trump bluffed about anything?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (KUaJL)

92 Prevezon Holdings attorney was bush's AG mukasey. Prevezon links to Fusion GPS. Job was first one believed to have used Fusion to dig up dirt on Trump. Subpoena mukasey, one of jeb's most ardent supporters.

Posted by: Ever at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (QZdJj)

93 >>Bring him and and make him physically plead the 5th.


He fled the country. Seriously.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)

94 All I want from democrats is to admit to a double standard. I won't get it, because it's a mark of status for them. It's the reason they are a glorious mobile citizen of the world, and I am a peasant in their eyes.

Fuck whataboutism. The double standard is everything. It is the air we breath. It is bigger than any Russia story, or any story that merits fucking months of grasping and greedy fake news. It will still be there when Trump retires.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 25, 2017 12:42 PM (rnAwa)

95 May it be that the whole Russian collusion thing
finally becomes clear and the world can see that yes, there was
collusion, but it was Democrats colluding with Russians, which they
were.

Posted by: TexasDan
-----
May they fall into their own shares and traps.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:42 PM (8b+oT)

96 38 Speaking of that "dossier", is McCain made his appearance in DC yet?

Wondering if he will look like a SPECTRE villain, kinda like Harry Reid a few years back after the exercise band "accident"
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:34 PM (FZYNt)

I was wondering if he actually had a cameo in the STNG movie Insurrection

http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles
e90abf7d17c0661897e009494e31cbe78f38fa45.jpg

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (jxbfJ)

97 >>So long as they do not allow him to make a self-serving opening statement first like they did with Lerner. Gowdy dropped the ball on that one.

How did he drop the ball?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (/tuJf)

98 Schiff has crazy eyes.



Posted by: dananjcon at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (WLK0w)

99 Horde, quick question: can anyone remember a time when Trump bluffed about anything?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (KUaJL)

Repealing Obamacare? Telling Hillary she'd be in jail if he were President?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (UBzPO)

100 I'm just waiting for the committees to ask the important questions ... like why Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's Sunday Washington Post.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (e8kgV)


When socialists do it, it's not stealing, it's redistributing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (eKbO9)

101 It isn't illegal for a political campaign to get information from a foreign entity/person but it is illegal to pay money for it to them. Or so I've been told recently.

So did all those involved in the Moscow-Pee dossier do it for free? Or was there money paid for that info?

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (d3wbb)

102 Here is Session's problem. He should have recused himself in theory. If you're involved in the case being investigated, you should recuse, However, the left doesn't do that, hell we know they don't do it see Kagan.

The entire Marsha, Marsha, Marsha debacle was set up by the left so they could spy on the Trump campaign attempting to find anything they could use against him. So recusing yourself from a corrupt, illegal, kangaroo "investigation" is stupid and naive.

It allowed the left to pull in Mueller and his army of far left lawyers to create "process" crimes to get rid of Trump.

He played right into the left-created coup. He's alos not doing due dilligance investigating the left.

Plus, he speaks poorly and sounds like a fag. I can't believe this guy is some famous attorney and senator.

Posted by: dagny at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (wZuWv)

103 Just give the dude a fifth of vodka via IV, then ask the questions.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (QHd8M)

104 The fact that nobody in the Trump hasn't taken the fifth proves that there was collusion, now just to find out exactly what is was...

Posted by: Mueller at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (P/kVC)

105 Personally, I think this has been a very effective tactic by the progs. The Russia thing, fake as it might be, keeps Trump and the media focused on it instead of anything else. The GOP colludes dems with a "who me?!?" Look on their face. Leaks galore from within. Can't get people in place to replace the Obama army controlling Washington. Sessions is clueless and impotent. FBI hates Trump over Comey. CIA hates trump because they are all Obama people. Obama and Hillary drum up all the anti trump shit they can and Soros funds it all.

I think Trump is just unable to overcome this massive onslaught. No one is coming to his aide and he's in a fish tank with way too many sharks.

TL;DR. Trump is not going to get anything done that would reverse this cancer that's eating D.C.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (pUDQf)

106 52
If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of
the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th
every single time.


Posted by: MacGruber at July 25, 2017 12:36 PM (FEAjO)

But first read an opening statement. Works like a charm.
-Lois Lerner

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (Enq6K)

107 Why is it only lefties are allowed to Plea the 5th?

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (XMDuf)

108 Margin Blow Job!!

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (FZYNt)

109 23 Pleading the Fifth seems to be all the rage these days.



Posted by: Jane D'oh


Well, seeing how well that worked out for Lois Lerner, I'm surprised everyone doesn't just do it. Over 4 years ago she did it, and she's still collecting that phat gubmint pension with no apparent worries.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (6jaju)

110 So did all those involved in the Moscow-Pee dossier do it for free? Or was there money paid for that info?

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (d3wbb)


The Nevertrumps paid them and then the FBI (the democrats).

Posted by: dagny at July 25, 2017 12:45 PM (wZuWv)

111 For the love of God ... would somebody be so kind as to call me and read the comments ? I can't see this shit anymore.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:46 PM (Niu5G)

112 93 >>Bring him and and make him physically plead the 5th.


He fled the country. Seriously.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)

Fine then. Due to his defiance of a legally sound subpoena, revoke his passport. Can't come home, can't renew his US passport. Freeze any/all assets he has in the US. Get real cozy with any family he has in the US - IRS, etc.

Game on.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 12:46 PM (jxbfJ)

113 33
Pleading the Fifth seems to be all the rage these days.

The only part of the Bill of Rights that matters to them right now.
Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (2z74n)

They care very much about their rights. Yours and mine, not so much.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (0mRoj)

114 107 Why is it only lefties are allowed to Plea the 5th?
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (XMDuf)


Because they're the only ones who need it, as they're the only criminals.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

115 81 Who investigates Fusion, Sessions or Mueller?
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (4e+hS)

Russian collusion... thus... Mueller... this... it won't be...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (NgKpN)

116 Life in Northern California:

Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS, planned to kill 10,000 in terror attack, blow up SF gay clubs, plants bombs on UC Berkeley campus:

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/
2017/07/25/ bay-area-isis-supporter-
wanted-to-redefine-terror-kill-10000/

Suspect in North Richmond (next to Berkeley) eats own feces, shits it at cops:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/07/25/
police-suspect-eats-feces-spit-arrest/

Imam in Davis (the other U.C. campus in NorCal) calls for the annihilation of Jews:

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/
California-Imam-calls-on-Allah-to-annihilate-Jews-500676

Just another day in cray-cray-land.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (DQ4Fv)

117 yes yes John McCain needs to answer for his role in this sordid treasonous scheme

and he better get on the stick

Posted by: happyfeet at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (mLfQi)

118
NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.


Sessions folded like a cheap suit at the first accusations of a possible conflict of interest in the Russianinvestigation and won't defend his reputaion with a 40 year record of faithful government service to stand on.But let Trump call him out on it and now all of a sudden he's full of fight

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (lKyWE)

119 While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

The flight of the bungling dingleberries.

Posted by: N. Rimsky-Korsakoff at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (xAvrH)

120 Our margins are so screwed

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (E4p3I)

121 He fled the country. Seriously.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)


The way innocent people always do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

122 shits it at cops = spits it at cops

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

123 Fine then. Due to his defiance of a legally sound subpoena, revoke his passport. Can't come home, can't renew his US passport. Freeze any/all assets he has in the US. Get real cozy with any family he has in the US - IRS, etc.



Freeze hell. Asset forfeiture bitchez!
Real estate. Finances.

I. R. S. His ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:48 PM (Bd48Y)

124 Isn't it funny how documented illegal activities are ok for one side, while unproven allegations are a death sentence for the other side.

And, apropos of the last thread, isn't it funny that the left wants to take away wealth from those who earned it, and are enamored of the idea of giving wealth to anyone who hasn't earned it?

Just an all around funny day.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 25, 2017 12:48 PM (7ZVPa)

125 I'm seein' stars that was so good!

Posted by: The Margins at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (RD7QR)

126 41
''Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.''
Ronald Reagan

''Freedom is about one half generation away from extinction.''
Me

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (EgwCt)

"Freedom left the barn about 16 years ago and hasn't been seen since."

CB

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (Jcg9Q)

127 NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.
=========
Oh?

And what fucking "bluff" are you going to call?

You going to actually start doing your damned job?

That'll learn him.

Dumbass.

You had one job: Bring "Justice" back to the Department of Justice.

So far, it's been all "business as usual" while doing the bidding of the Democrat Party.

Where's the investigation into voter fraud?
Where's the investigation into Ukraine attempts at election interference?
Where's the investigation into companies hiring illegal aliens?
Where's the investigation into Hillary's missing emails?
Where's the investigation into ANY of the damned endless leaks?

At what fucking point can he show one fucking instance of him doing his damned job?!

At no time has he made any suggestion that he is going to investigate one damned bit of the utter and total political corruption brought by the last 8 years.

Not one.

Not. One. Damned. One.

Utterly incompetent. Willfully, one might say.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (W1XyZ)

128 >>>Horde, quick question: can anyone remember a time when Trump bluffed about anything?

Comey tapes?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (UCap9)

129 I say sir, what exactly is this Twitter doodad that everyone is going on about?

Posted by: Attorney General Jeff Sessions at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (AEpSb)

130 Could someone please nuke comment 96?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (0mRoj)

131 118
NEW: Sessions "pissed" about treatment by Trump. Won't quit. Wants to call his bluff.


Sessions folded like a cheap suit at the first accusations of a possible conflict of interest in the Russianinvestigation and won't defend his reputaion with a 40 year record of faithful government service to stand on.But let Trump call him out on it and now all of a sudden he's full of fight
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (lKyWE)

Too bad that is lost on all but us morons here.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (jxbfJ)

132 Who blew the margins?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (UCap9)

133 109 Well, seeing how well that worked out for Lois
Lerner, I'm surprised everyone doesn't just do it. Over 4 years ago she
did it, and she's still collecting that phat gubmint pension with no
apparent worries.


Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (6jaju)


That only worked because Holder refused to prosecute at Obama's direction. if we had an opposition Party Obama would have been impeached.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

134
shits it at cops = spits it at cops

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)


*looks at sandwich* *heads to trash can*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (PY9jH)

135 Doesn't Trump have some guys at an ECOMCON site that he can call on to help him?

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (gbWkA)

136 Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS, planned to kill 10,000 in terror attack, blow up SF gay clubs, plants bombs on UC Berkeley campus:

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/07/25/
bay-area-isis-supporter-wanted-to-redefine-terror
-kill-10000/

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (DQ4Fv)


Now THAT would be interesting: which way would the Reds jump on that one? A little internecine violence would really put the question to them on where they stand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:50 PM (SRKgf)

137 People keep saying that Sessions is a good and honorable man. I believe that is true. However it seems he, from his time in the Senate, sees the Democrats as all honorable opponents. We need an AG who views them as enemies of the United States as founded. That is what they are and they are now starting to proudly proclaim it too.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 12:50 PM (d3wbb)

138 Meanwhile another example of Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst and his gang treating everything not nailed down as something for them to embezzle ...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8zch6w2

One has to wonder where this ill-gotten loot went. And it is one more thing that must end now.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 12:51 PM (QHd8M)

139 88 Part of me wonders if Putin, rather than trying to get Trump elected, was working with the DNC to plant the "Trump-Russia!!11!" story line.
Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (7HtZB)

One thing to consider.... do you really think Putin controls EVERYTHING everyone in Russia does?

There are competing interests there, just as there are here...

Just because someone in Russia does something, it does not mean that Putin had a direct hand in it...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 12:51 PM (NgKpN)

140 136 Now THAT would be interesting: which way would the Reds jump on that one? A little internecine violence would really put the question to them on where they stand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:50 PM (SRKgf)

Do you even have to ask?

Muslims. ALWAYS Muslims.

The Strong Horse.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:51 PM (XMDuf)

141 Is there a Braille ap for the iPhone ?

I remember it like it was yesterday ... I had just come to the HQ. I tickled the Margins a little bit. Foreplay really, nothing more. Heavy petting at best.

Alex threatened to rip out my lungs. Sven called me shit in Skandi. Good times. Good times.

We've went soft in our old age.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:52 PM (Niu5G)

142 Yeah use the fully weaponized IRS against the ones who created the monster until they scream.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (QHd8M)

143 Brennan. This ends on Brennan's desk.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (9TU00)

144
Jeff Sessions turned out to be the GeorgeWBush of Attorneys General.

Lame-ass dope.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (gJKXo)

145 >>Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS, planned to kill
10,000 in terror attack, blow up SF gay clubs, plants bombs on UC
Berkeley campus


And like the Pulse shooting, it would be blamed on Christians, and naturally, TRUMP!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (NOIQH)

146 This is PDTs one and only chance to make his mark in history. He is not bluffing... he will and should shitcan sessions.

Posted by: E.T. at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (P1GJy)

147 141 Is there a Braille ap for the iPhone ?

I remember it like it was yesterday ... I had just come to the HQ. I tickled the Margins a little bit. Foreplay really, nothing more. Heavy petting at best.

Alex threatened to rip out my lungs. Sven called me shit in Skandi. Good times. Good times.

We've went soft in our old age.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:52 PM (Niu5G)

We could get somebody to curse you in Russian just to cross the streams. Would that help?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 12:53 PM (RD7QR)

148 Americans are talking past each other. Anyone getting their 'news' from the mainstream media would think there must be something going on with Trump and Russia, why else would this be a 24/7 story for months? Anyone looking at this story objectively sees the obvious truth; the media is trying to destroy Donald Trump and this seems to be all they have. Months and months of stories with no facts have destroyed the media's credibility.

Posted by: IanDeal at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (JhHPx)

149 One thing to consider.... do you really think Putin controls EVERYTHING everyone in Russia does?

There are competing interests there, just as there are here...

Just because someone in Russia does something, it does not mean that Putin had a direct hand in it...



--
After all, Putin isn't Stalin.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (Bd48Y)

150 So Trump hasn't fired him yet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (mpXpK)

What's the chance this PDT's biggest smoke screen yet?

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (sf2BM)

151 Oh, and for the record...

Data forensic guys looked at the DNC 'hacks'....

It was an INSIDE job, done onsite... because the SPEED of data transfer was too fast to be done via the internet (time stamps on transferred files were intact).... and the time stamps of the files were Eastern US time...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (NgKpN)

152 Is there a Braille ap for the iPhone ?



I remember it like it was yesterday ... I had just come to the HQ. I
tickled the Margins a little bit. Foreplay really, nothing more.
Heavy petting at best.



Alex threatened to rip out my lungs. Sven called me shit in Skandi. Good times. Good times.



We've went soft in our old age.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:52 PM


Bob Dole has a remedy for that.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (p+Wdc)

153 >>>Horde, quick question: can anyone remember a time when Trump bluffed about anything?

Comey tapes?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 12:49 PM (UCap9)


Comey's testimony matched what he said to Trump, whether it is taped or not.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (rnAwa)

154
Here is Session's problem. He should have recused himself in theory. If you're involved in the case being investigated, you should recuse, However, the left doesn't do that, hell we know they don't do it see Kagan.


Was Sessions unaware of the Russian investigation when he accepted the job offer?He should have never accepted the offer if there was the slightest chance that he would have to recuse himself from the Russian investigation.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (lKyWE)

155 For some reason, the margins aren't blown for me.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (Enq6K)

156 I kind of wonder if Trump's threats about firing Sessions are just another example of Trump drawing attention away from other stuff and leaving the MSM tards with their panties in a bunch.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (ILitO)

157 >>Meanwhile another example of Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst and his
gang treating everything not nailed down as something for them to
embezzle ...


Oh, saw a guy interviewed by Tucker about this about a month ago - he's been investigating it for a while. It is amazing how much Obama looted the federal coffers.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (NOIQH)

158 Meanwhile another example of Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst and his gang treating everything not nailed down as something for them to embezzle ...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8zch6w2

One has to wonder where this ill-gotten loot went.



Cayman Islands.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (Bd48Y)

159 Remember, when times got tuff for the Nazis at the end of WW2, Himmler tossed the Aran crap out the window and recruited Muslim S into the SS. Socialists always side with the Muslim.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (gbWkA)

160 156
I kind of wonder if Trump's threats about firing Sessions are just
another example of Trump drawing attention away from other stuff and
leaving the MSM tards with their panties in a bunch.


Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (ILitO)

Making himself and his administration look incompetent and dysfunctional is a bit self-defeating, no?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (UBzPO)

161 Might we take a moment to discuss an important topic that has not yet been beaten down to the molecular level by the Horde?

What the hell kind of stupid name is Fusion GPS? It sounds like a name some 20ish app developers come up with in the elevator on the way to a pitch meeting for venture capital for their Uber but for unicycles business.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (mf5HN)

162 "don't call my bluff"

Posted by: King Barky 57th at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (ILitO)

163 For some reason, the margins aren't blown for me.
Posted by: Tami,



Are you on a phone or a desktop?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (Bd48Y)

164 148 Months and months of stories with no facts have destroyed the media's credibility.

Posted by: IanDeal at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (JhHPx)

The MFM lost all their credibility when they spent 8 years kissing Obama's ass.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (mpXpK)

165 155 For some reason, the margins aren't blown for me.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:54 PM (Enq6K)


My Margins already went through two smokes and are now twenty minutes into a nap.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (Niu5G)

166 Are you on a phone or a desktop?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (Bd48Y)

Laptop

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (Enq6K)

167 Sessions folded like a cheap suit at the first accusations of a
possible conflict of interest in the Russian investigation and won't
defend his reputation with a 40 year record of faithful government
service to stand on. But let Trump call him out on it and now all of a
sudden he's full of fight
=========
Things important to Jeff Sessions:
(1) His phony baloney job
(2) Showin' up
(3) Gettin' paid
(4) Doin' nothin'

Things not important to Jeff Session:
(1) Prosecuting voter fraud
(2) Prosecuting companies for knowingly hiring illegal aliens
(3) Defending the Executive
(4) Defending America

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (W1XyZ)

168 140 136 Now THAT would be interesting: which way would the Reds jump on that one? A little internecine violence would really put the question to them on where they stand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:50 PM (SRKgf)

Do you even have to ask?

Muslims. ALWAYS Muslims.

The Strong Horse.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:51 PM (XMDuf)


You're probably right, but I don't care which way they jump: I just want them to be forced to jump one way or the other.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (SRKgf)

169
I kind of wonder if Trump's threats about firing Sessions are just another example of Trump drawing attention away from other stuff and leaving the MSM tards with their panties in a bunch.Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (ILitO)

I'm more inclined to believe Trump smells a GOP set up with Sessions and he's pissed off about it

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (lKyWE)

170
What's the chance this PDT's biggest smoke screen yet?
Posted by: the guy across the street

Thought has crossed my mind.

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (FZYNt)

171 Laptop
Posted by: Tami




Switch to a phone.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (Bd48Y)

172 161 Might we take a moment to discuss an important topic that has not yet been beaten down to the molecular level by the Horde?

What the hell kind of stupid name is Fusion GPS? It sounds like a name some 20ish app developers come up with in the elevator on the way to a pitch meeting for venture capital for their Uber but for unicycles business.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (mf5HN)


It was the Donkey Kong method of saying "We're diverse and globalist!"

Fusion = "We stand for a mix of all races!"
GPS = "We're GLOBAL, we're CITIZENS OF THE WORLD! OPEN BORDERS, BAY-BAY!"

Took them all of 4 seconds to come up with, doubtless.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (XMDuf)

173 That would make a great cartoon.

Large heads emblazoned with media logo's kissing king putt's bare ass as he smiles at everyone.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (sf2BM)

174 166 Are you on a phone or a desktop?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (Bd48Y)

Laptop
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (Enq6K)


*checks lap*

Sadly ... no.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (Niu5G)

175 Switch to a phone.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (Bd48Y)

No thanks. I believe ya.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (Enq6K)

176 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate,

Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

177 Repealing Obamacare? Telling Hillary she'd be in jail if he were President?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 12:43 PM (UBzPO)

He can't do that by himself. Sheesh.

He thought the party would back him. They should. Unfortunately, he was wrong.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (Jcg9Q)

178 Switch to a phone.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (Bd48Y)

I've found that the Android OS does not have a margin issue.

What are you using? And do you have the type size bigguned?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:00 PM (EgwCt)

179 Has anyone been raped yet? It *is* Tuesday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:00 PM (PY9jH)

180 For some reason, the margins aren't blown for me.
Posted by: Tami,



Are you on a phone or a desktop?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:56 PM (Bd48Y)



It appears on my desktop that the margins have swallowed.


I'll see myself out.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:00 PM (mf5HN)

181 >>>Comey's testimony matched what he said to Trump, whether it is taped or not.

But did he bluff about tapes or not?

Seriously? Arguing that a real estate developer, master bullshitter, never bluffs?? He bluffs, get real.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 01:01 PM (UCap9)

182 I'll see myself out.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:00 PM (mf5HN)

Fixed. Hopefully.

Zombie was the culprit. I suggest stoning.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 01:01 PM (wYseH)

183 Has anyone been raped yet? It *is* Tuesday.

Just on my paycheck by the IRS. Does that count?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (IZPn8)

184 Comment #96 is the one that blew the margins. Loooong URL, with no spaces inserted.

Always insert spaces or use tinyurl, people!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

185 AtC, after reading zombie's post, I couldn't eat my sammich. Would you like it?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

186 Jane, I have saddle ass from riding my bike for six hours. Not rape rape tho

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (E4p3I)

187 I definitely think there is enough here to easily dwarf Watergate for Obama, but Trump's Administration is in such disarray right now that I doubt they will have the organization to really go after it.

I'm not even sure what Sessions is doing right now.

Did I read right that Chaffetz retired because Sessions wasn't willing to do anything regarding Hillary?

Trump either needs to shit or give off the pot with Sessions. Fire him or stop sniping at him.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (1+bvq)

188
It appears on my desktop that the margins have swallowed.


I'll see myself out.
Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic

notify me if they snowball

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (FZYNt)

189 BTW, anyone note (no, I'm not scrolling 200) the 2A win in DC?

Yay.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (MINbv)

190 I've come to the conclusion that liberals and neverTrumpers aren't angry enough and we need to fix that quickly.

C'mon people, we can do this!

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (3myMJ)

191 >>I'm more inclined to believe Trump smells a GOP set up with Sessions and he's pissed off about it

Seems kind of unlikely. Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump, way before it was cool, and he stood by him through everything including the pussy grab tape. I don't see Sessions as a guy taking a flyer on a long shot Presidential candidate just so he could sabotage him in the unlike chance he actually won the presidency.

Sessions obeyed the law. People can argue forever whether that was a good idea or not but I don't think Trump is covering himself with glory with his actions lately. If you want him gone then fire him. If not then shut up and get on with things.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (/tuJf)

192 169
I kind of wonder if Trump's threats about firing Sessions are just another example of Trump drawing attention away from other stuff and leaving the MSM tards with their panties in a bunch.Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:55 PM (ILitO)

I'm more inclined to believe Trump smells a GOP set up with Sessions and he's pissed off about it
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (lKyWE)

The AG runs anti spy stuff, through the FBI...

The AG SHOULD be finding and prosecuting leakers who let loose classified information...

Trump just had to hire Scaramucci to do that job.... the Job that Sessions SHOULD be doing, yet is not...

Case.... closed....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (NgKpN)

193 Zombie was the culprit. I suggest stoning.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


No! I insert spaces! It was comment #96, "Posted by: Our Country is Screwed."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

194 176 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate,

Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

I'm going to hell for laughing at this and it's all your fault.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

195 Zombie didn't do it

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (E4p3I)

196 AtC, after reading zombie's post, I couldn't eat my sammich. Would you like it?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)



What kind of sammich?

Who am I kidding, of course I would.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (mf5HN)

197 176 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate,

Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)



Wow, that guy is whack.

Posted by: Gabby Giffords at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (SRKgf)

198 191 Seems kind of unlikely. Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump, way before it was cool, and he stood by him through everything including the pussy grab tape. I don't see Sessions as a guy taking a flyer on a long shot Presidential candidate just so he could sabotage him in the unlike chance he actually won the presidency.

Sessions obeyed the law. People can argue forever whether that was a good idea or not but I don't think Trump is covering himself with glory with his actions lately. If you want him gone then fire him. If not then shut up and get on with things.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (/tuJf)

Sessions was Bannon's first choice to run for President in the first place.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (XMDuf)

199 I'm going to hell for laughing at this and it's all your fault.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (RD7QR)


Save a spot for me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (PY9jH)

200 Always insert spaces or use tinyurl, people!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

Or at least give it a CR at about the mid-point of a long URL.
Soft or hard CR doesn't matter.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (EgwCt)

201 I'm so sick of these people and their supporters.

No baseless, disreputable action is too far. No lie too bold. No argument too specious.

They want to rule and if they can't they will destroy the entire country.

F them all.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (zJ3L1)

202 these motherfuckers are going to hate the new rules for the rest of their lives. nfl

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 01:04 PM (nFwvY)

203 What kind of sammich?



Who am I kidding, of course I would.





Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (mf5HN)


Mojo pork. I'll see if I can shove it through the USB port.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:04 PM (PY9jH)

204 Sea Otter Gumbo is a great band name.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

205 "Did I read right that Chaffetz retired because Sessions wasn't willing to do anything regarding Hillary?"

I don't know. Does it make sense that he would retire for that reason and not say so publicly?

Like at a press conference or TV interview so everyone would know?

Maybe he has, but I haven't heard about it.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:05 PM (3myMJ)

206 I have to remember to choose my words more carefully around here. Buncha pervs.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:05 PM (Enq6K)

207 Sea Otter Gumbo is a great band name.

Zydeco-grunge fusion?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 01:05 PM (IZPn8)

208 Sea Otter Gumbo is a great band name.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:04 PM (mf5HN)


Not nearly as great as "Scarborough," but it will do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (PY9jH)

209 >>I have to remember to choose my words more carefully around here. Buncha pervs.

We are the ones glitterizing our privates.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

210 195 Zombie didn't do it
Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (E4p3I)


I'll vouch for Daria.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (Niu5G)

211 "Sea Otter Gumbo is a great band name."

One of my favorite band names was picked by a Denver band around 2000.

"Kinda Like A Forehead"

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (3myMJ)

212 Sessions obeyed the law. People can argue forever
whether that was a good idea or not but I don't think Trump is covering
himself with glory with his actions lately. If you want him gone then
fire him. If not then shut up and get on with things.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (/tuJf)

Yeah, I agree with you. Trump needs to take this up with Sessions behind closed doors (I know...COLLUSION!). He doesn't need to be doing it publicly.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (Enq6K)

213 aren't

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

214 The Democrats by banging the tin drum over Russia is hoping by telling this Big Lie enough people will believe it.

---
Or the inventors of Fusion GPS just ate a fusion style restaurant, aka lets throw in some fried rice wit Jungle curry, and call it a fusion of cultures! And they had found the place only because Siri read directions to them via GPS.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (QHd8M)

215 208 Sea Otter Gumbo is a great band name.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

Not nearly as great as "Scarborough," but it will do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (PY9jH)

Hmmm.... that's Fair...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (NgKpN)

216 So Sessions is literally a light worker.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (WLK0w)

217 Is the Empress in mourning over the death of that Florida manatee?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (QHd8M)

218 We are the ones glitterizing our privates.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

Oh you ARE?!

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (Enq6K)

219 211 One of my favorite band names was picked by a Denver band around 2000.

"Kinda Like A Forehead"

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (3myMJ)

Japan won the band name war forever when they foisted "Bathtub Shitter" upon the world.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (XMDuf)

220 >>Oh you ARE?!

It was a speako.

Perv.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (/tuJf)

221 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate,

Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.



Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

First out loud laugh of the day.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (Jcg9Q)

222 Fusion = melding into one

GPS = the Global Power of Socialism


Just flinging a spitball.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (yzxic)

223 Yeah, I agree with you. Trump needs to take this up with Sessions behind closed doors (I know...COLLUSION!). He doesn't need to be doing it publicly.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:06 PM (Enq6K)

Do you know for sure that he has not already done that?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (NgKpN)

224 I wonder how many divisions Mr. Clapper has?

You'll need them, friendo. I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for your future if you convince some of your butt buddies in the gubmint to carry through on your coup insinuations.

You're going to be a very early fucking casualty, Clapper. Count on it ass clown.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

225 I don't know what to make of Sessions, but if the WH continues to be a revolving door of people Trump HIRED, you have to start coming to the conclusion that maybe Trump is the problem and not all the people around him that are supposedly sabotaging him.

What Sessions did was beyond stupid, but so is Trump going to war with his own AG. Either make peace with it or fire him.

I'll still gladly pull the handle for Trump again and again, but I do get sick of sycophants that make the case because Trump beat the worst Democrat candidate in living memory (and lost the popular vote) everything he does therefore is brilliant and he should never be questioned.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (1+bvq)

226 "Sessions was Bannon's first choice to run for President in the first place."

I myself often mused during the primaries, gee, if only Jeff Sessions had thrown his hat in the ring, wouldn't that have been better?

Based on how J-Sess has handled things under pressure first in his AG confirmation and then as AG proper, that was an epochal miscalculation of character on my part.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (ujwCG)

227 "Game of Thrones" forsooth; watch "Doom of the Republic" sponsored by The Outrage Outlet.

Politics as soap opera.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (hLRSq)

228 We are the ones glitterizing our privates."

Oh, a Goop Rock one, I see...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (MINbv)

229 I've found that the Android OS does not have a margin issue.

What are you using? And do you have the type size bigguned?


Apple 6S+.
Normal type size.
Dolphin browser.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (Bd48Y)

230 Do you know for sure that he has not already done that?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (NgKpN)

No I don't. But if he has and still has these public criticisms of Sessions, then he needs to get rid of him. Quit blabbing about it.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (Enq6K)

231 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (1+bvq)

Ahhh.... and we hear from the Never Trump faction....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (NgKpN)

232 Comment 96 is what's blowing the margins.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (0mRoj)

233 GPS = the Global Power of Socialism


Just flinging a spitball.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (yzxic)

Well according to what they 'dug up' on Trump -- wouldn't 'Golden Piss Shower' be closer?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (EgwCt)

234 Is the Empress in mourning over the death of that Florida manatee?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM (QHd8M)



Yes. Especially since they're being super sketchy about how he died.

Boy BFF was going to do the adopt a manatee thing for my birthday (which is tomorrow by the by) one year and then he realized that when it died I would hold him responsible because he has met me. We then got into a debate about whether the company running it goes down the path of oh sorry Spanky got plowed down by a speedboat you need to adopt another one or the path of Spanky is now 127 years old thanks to your continued support.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (mf5HN)

235 For the Demunists, Projection does not just happen at the theatre.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 25, 2017 01:11 PM (ujg0T)

236 Comment 96 is what's blowing the margins.

Hey, we're good with it!

Posted by: The Margins at July 25, 2017 01:11 PM (IZPn8)

237 If he takes the fifth, arrest him. That's shoplifting.

They'll put him in a holding cell in DC and one way or the other he'll be squealing like a pig.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2017 01:11 PM (e1mEI)

238 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate,

Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)


So does this mean that Gabby Giffords' husband has reached out to 'help' McCain?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:11 PM (QHd8M)

239 Well according to what they 'dug up' on Trump -- wouldn't 'Golden Piss Shower' be closer?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (EgwCt)




I think we have a winner.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 01:11 PM (yzxic)

240 If we had a Presdent Hillary Cliton we would have theses healthcare problems.. We loved Presdent Obama and Haillery would have all his great stuff in polace. Trump lied and Americca died !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 01:12 PM (WmgTn)

241 Dolphin browser.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (Bd48Y)



Now we know who is getting raped.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:12 PM (mf5HN)

242 >>If he takes the fifth, arrest him. That's shoplifting.


They'll put him in a holding cell in DC and one way or the other he'll be squealing like a pig.


Which is probably why he fled the country.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:12 PM (NOIQH)

243 I knew the Trump Presidency would be entertaining and piss off the GOPe but this is better than I expected.

And one of the best parts is people still tying themselves in knots over Trump's scenery chewing.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:12 PM (3myMJ)

244 230 Do you know for sure that he has not already done that?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (NgKpN)

No I don't. But if he has and still has these public criticisms of Sessions, then he needs to get rid of him. Quit blabbing about it.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:09 PM (Enq6K)

Uh.... no....

Used to do this all the time in the Military...

Try to change behavior in private... and it does not work? You take it public...

This is the Attorney General of the US... not easy to fire, you have to lay some groundwork....

ESPECIALLY if he is a Beltway insider, like... Sessions...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (NgKpN)

245 184 Comment #96 is the one that blew the margins. Loooong URL, with no spaces inserted.

Always insert spaces or use tinyurl, people!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

++++

Actually, it was #116.

Even better than spaces are line breaks. And if the comment gets rejected because the string is too long, put the space at the end of the line. It gets stripped out by the commenting software; meaning that the person following the link doesn't have to edit the link to remove the spaces.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/07/25/bay-
area-isis-supporter-wanted-to-redefine-terror-kill-10000/

In the above link, I put a line break after "bay-" and then I added a space at the end of line. But, if you highlight both lines, you won't see my space at the end of the top line, since the software edits out those end of line spaces before it publishes the comment.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (FUu/Z)

246 I'm going to hell for laughing at this and it's all your fault.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

Save a spot for me.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (PY9jH)

I have a whole section set aside already.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (Jcg9Q)

247 Well, seeing how well that worked out for Lois Lerner, I'm surprised everyone doesn't just do it. Over 4 years ago she did it, and she's still collecting that phat gubmint pension with no apparent worries.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 12:44 PM (6jaju)


Yeah, and not only that, she got to make a big, sanctimonious speech before the committee, loudly proclaiming her innocence, and by the way, you can't question me about it because I've taken the 5th.

The gutless GOP should've put her through a wringer for that.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (eKbO9)

248 Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS, planned to kill 10,000 in terror attack, blow up SF gay clubs, plants bombs on UC Berkeley campus:

It's a sadomasochistic love affair. I want both sides to get what they desire. I just want zombie and San Franpsycho to evacuate in time.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (xAvrH)

249 If Trump wants Sessions gone, it will happen during the recess. Or Sessions can unrecuse himself, get off his ass and start taking down Washington criminals. Trump is probably running auditions Scaramucci style: prove you're going after a big dog, win the AG post.

But Trump has hitherto inspired loyalty from literally everyone who directly works for him. For all his firings, people like Lewandowski and Stone aren't even really gone.

Posted by: trev006 at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (IbaEw)

250 Empress, re: Spanky

Just imagine Sally Struthers in Ethiopia on that early South Park episode? Help the manatee! Help the children! Sally gal fed the village for a while.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (QHd8M)

251 Boy BFF was going to do the adopt a manatee thing
for my birthday (which is tomorrow by the by) one year and then he
realized that when it died I would hold him responsible because he has
met me. We then got into a debate about whether the company running it
goes down the path of oh sorry Spanky got plowed down by a speedboat
you need to adopt another one or the path of Spanky is now 127 years old
thanks to your continued support.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:10 PM (mf5HN)


Early Happy Birthday! *throws confetti*


When I was a little girl, there was a tame pelican that hung out at a bait shop on the Indian River in FL where my Grandpa went for all his fishing needs. People would give it fish and you could pet it. I loved that bird.

Then one morning, the owners of the bait shop came to work, and some filthy, evil bastard had shot and killed the pelican.


I'm still bothered by that. And I still love pelicans.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (PY9jH)

252 Kinda funny...over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.

I think I know the answer, but these days...???

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (EsHMF)

253
Seems kind of unlikely. Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump, way before it was cool, and he stood by him through everything including the pussy grab tape. I don't see Sessions as a guy taking a flyer on a long shot Presidential candidate just so he could sabotage him in the unlike chance he actually won the presidency.

Alabama went for Trump early so lets not pretend Sessions was putting his neck on the line for supporting Trump early.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (lKyWE)

254 re Sessions:

1. He may be in over his head running a huge bureaucracy. Nice guy, smart, conservative, but not the person for the job that needs doing.

2. I can only assume PDT has given Sessions and all other Cabinet officers a prioritized list of things to do, or asked them to provide a recommended list that PDT then approved with changes. If PDT has not done this, that's not good.

3. Assuming PDT has given Sessions a to-do list: Sessions is either making progress on PDT's high-priority DoJ tasks, or he isn't. If he's not, PDT needs to dump him. If he is, then sour grapes by PDT lately.

4. I wonder what Bannon is up to these days. If he's as smart and tough and bureaucratically skillful as claimed, the Sessions and Mueller and GOPe crap in Congress should start sorting-out to PDT's favor soon.

All I got for now - back to the office for me.

Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (AMIL/)

255 Both parties in Congress and the Media hate us and want to steal our wealth, enslave us, and then kill us.

This is the reality in America today.

Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (eLttb)

256 Since the first group to use Fusion GPS to create the oppo research/dossier was another republican candidate's PAC, why don't they start asking them to testify? Can't imagine RNC folks don't know who it was.

Posted by: Ever at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (QZdJj)

257 "Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS"

That reminds me, haven't heard much out of CAIR lately.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (3myMJ)

258 Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)


OK, 'fess up, who's doing this sock?

Whoever you are, you are one sick bastard and I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (eKbO9)

259 I'm still bothered by that. And I still love pelicans.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (PY9jH)



People are just the worst.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:16 PM (mf5HN)

260 225 I'll still gladly pull the handle for Trump again
and again, but I do get sick of sycophants that make the case because
Trump beat the worst Democrat candidate in living memory (and lost the
popular vote) everything he does therefore is brilliant and he should
never be questioned.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (1+bvq)


Based on the fraud that has been discovered since the election was over he actually won the popular vote when you throw out the fraud.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:16 PM (mpXpK)

261 President Trump is a bull in a china store- YES

President Trump should take some of this behind
closed doors- YES

President Trump sometimes is his own worse enemy-YES

And? You think if all the answers to the above were not Yes, the Left would act any different? LMAO

Fuck the Left and let Trump be Trump. No, no, no! No more! Not this time, Consigliere! No more meetin's! No more discussions! No more left wing tricks! You give 'em one message - I want repeal and action. If not, it's all-out war, we go to the mattresses.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:17 PM (5y11N)

262 OT- Scott Adams on rejected DNC slogans:

1. We're With Him
2. Jobs are a thing!
3. Make America Somewhat Better
4. You're Hitler and so are you, and you

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 01:17 PM (iVOAv)

263 248 Berkeley High graduate living in Oakland joins ISIS, planned to kill 10,000 in terror attack, blow up SF gay clubs, plants bombs on UC Berkeley campus:

It's a sadomasochistic love affair. I want both sides to get what they desire. I just want zombie and San Franpsycho to evacuate in time.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 01:13 PM (xAvrH)


I want Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper to have to publicly declare Live on CNN that they side with Islam over their own LGBT "Tribe".

Bend over like the whores they are for their Time Warner paymasters.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:17 PM (XMDuf)

264 256 Since the first group to use Fusion GPS to create the oppo research/dossier was another republican candidate's PAC, why don't they start asking them to testify? Can't imagine RNC folks don't know who it was.
Posted by: Ever at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (QZdJj)

Problem is? John McCain was in the middle of it...

Crap... can you even call a Senator to testify before the Senate?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:17 PM (NgKpN)

265 OK, 'fess up, who's doing this sock?

Whoever you are, you are one sick bastard and I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (eKbO9)

Looks like 'naturalfake'.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (EgwCt)

266 There were some people chilling on their boat here a couple of weeks ago, having some wine, and a young pelican landed on the boat and hung out with them. They even got a cute picture.

*squee*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (PY9jH)

267 >>Kinda funny...over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.



That seems awfully binary!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (NOIQH)

268 The NFL is dead. It's just zombie football now.

"The degenerative brain disease chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) has been diagnosed in 110 of 111 former NFL players whose brains were donated for research, according to a study published in The Journal of the American Medical Association on Tuesday.

"In total, CTE was diagnosed in 87% of 202 former football players - including high school, college, NFL, Canadian Football League and semipro."

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (Nwg0u)

269 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 01:17 PM (iVOAv)

HAH.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (3myMJ)

270 Today I banana parrot sandwich. Wiki wiki woo of freedom for opera pavement Goldstein. Let us bark. Let us bark until sea otter gumbo.

Thank yams.

Posted by: Sen John McCain at July 25, 2017 12:59 PM (9q7Dl)

OK, 'fess up, who's doing this sock?

Whoever you are, you are one sick bastard and I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:15 PM (eKbO9)

I still think Ace has a couple professional comedians practicing their ideas on here, given all the times I LOL in a given day.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (Jcg9Q)

271 -
-
Japan won the band name war forever when they foisted "Bathtub Shitter" upon the world.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:07 PM

----------------


Insert standard "Don't google that." warning.

Posted by: irright at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (pMGkg)

272 I like Jobs Are A Thing.


Kinda funny...over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.

I think I know the answer, but these days...???
Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (EsHMF)



That is just insulting. Everyone know ace is Ewok.


I have been here long enough that I remember when ace you to get really mad and tell us to knock it off with the Ewok shit.

And then he won that blogger of the year award and gave a very thoughtful and interesting speech and all the Horde took out of it was OMG ACE REALLY IS AN EWOK!

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

273 >>This is the Attorney General of the US... not easy to fire, you have to lay some groundwork....

He's not laying any groundwork, he's just yelling.

You've got guys like Gingrich, Levin and even Rudy who many want to be AG saying that Trump should stop attacking Sessions and move on. It was Trump right after he was elected going on the tube saying he had no intention of actually going after Hillary after spending two years getting people to chant "Lock her up". If he's changed his mind then sit down with Sessions and tell him what he wants. If Sessions refuses then he's got all the groundwork he needs.

Trump is pissy because he is getting caught up in DC politics. He should shut up and stop taking the bait on Russia and working the Congress and the public to get his agenda passed.

If Trump thinks the left is on him about Russia now, wait until he fires Sessions.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

274 90 If he's going to plead the 5th, make him do it in public. In front of
the cameras. Ask every question imaginable and make him plead the 5th
every single time.
***
That would be glorious....

Did you and Hillary Clinton directly conspire with Vlad Putin?

I take the 5th

How many foreign countries did you and Hillary Clinton conspire with to affect the outcome of the 2016 election?

I take the 5th

Did you and Hillary Clinton engage in electoral fraud in 2016?

I take the 5th

Did you and Barack Obama work with intelligence agencies to unmask prominent Republican figures?

I take the 5th

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (eSx+E)

Did you witness Barack Obama and Reggie doing butt stuff?

I take the 5th

Did you hear Hillary admit to Huma that Bill isn't the father of Chelsea?

I take the 5th

Do you possess information linking Barack Obama to Lois Lerner's stonewalling?

I take the 5th


And just play along with some ridiculous claims. Have fun with it. The press will love it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (jxbfJ)

275 So the DemonRats are guilty of what they accuse others?

Collusion . . . Treason . . . Whatever.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 25, 2017 01:20 PM (k2QdF)

276 over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.

-
And completely ignoring the question of species?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 01:20 PM (Nwg0u)

277
Actually, if Sessions ankles the DoJ, the logical choice to explode heads as a replacement would be....

J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:20 PM (mbhDw)

278 IS sessions a wartime consigliere? I don't know.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (gbWkA)

279 276 over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.

-
And completely ignoring the question of species?

Ewoks' species has yet to be determined...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (O2RFr)

280 So long as they do not allow him to make a self-serving opening statement first like they did with Lerner. Gowdy dropped the ball on that one.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (OD2ni)

---

he could just make his 'opening statement' before he goes into the hearing and pleads the fifth.

Posted by: Jeff Beau and Lloyd at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (PNcou)

281 279 276 over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.

-
And completely ignoring the question of species?

Ewoks' species has yet to be determined...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (O2RFr)


How do you sex a shelf?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (mbhDw)

282 And completely ignoring the question of species?

Now you're really gonna confuse them.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (EsHMF)

283 So if zombie's comment has been fixed then margins should be fixed yet

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (E4p3I)

284 252
Kinda funny...over at Patterico, they're having a debate as to whether Ace is a guy or a girl.



I think I know the answer, but these days...???

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:14 PM (EsHMF)

Do they know there is video of him on FOX?

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (Enq6K)

285 Ace is species-fluid.

Posted by: irright at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (pMGkg)

286 This is basic prosecution 101 type shit here. Give this fucker limited immunity, call them on the carpet and set the perjury trap. This low level fuck (when compared to his paymaster, who was at most 1 level under Podesta) either gives up the goods or trips stumbles into the perjury/obstruction of justice trap and gets some time.

That said, given the frequency at which bodies drop around the Clintons, he might just take the Susan MacDougal option.

Posted by: DanInMN at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (h5ffp)

287 281 How do you sex a shelf?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (mbhDw)


You get it nice and liquored up with a bottle of Tanqueray.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (XMDuf)

288 Alabama went for Trump early so lets not pretend Sessions was putting his neck on the line for supporting Trump early.
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic

_______

That and I'm sure the Trump campaign was the only one that gave him the time of day.

Before all of this, Sessions was a pretty minor player. But he had a seat for life no matter what he did.

I support the causes Sessions has been fighting for, basically an America First nationalism, but he's been in DC too long.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (1+bvq)

289 Can I stop paying taxes and plead the 5th?

Both seem to be all the rage with politicians.

I'll let you all know how that turns out.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (72PAC)

290 How do you sex a shelf?

IKEA has a tool for that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (QHd8M)

291 Just saw on Twitter (fwiw) that Trump asked Sessions to fire Mueller and Sessions said "no."

Apparently that's why Trump is fed up with Sessions.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (HiDrR)

292 How do you sex a shelf?

Well, I generally start with the brackets...

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (EsHMF)

293 Ewoks gonna need a lot of fur oil.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (7HtZB)

294
I remember my first trip to Florida as a kid. Catching fish in my aunts backyard. Putting my catch in a big bucket. Some big ass pelican comes flying in my direction. I ignored it.

Next thing I hear a commotion behind me, the pelican grabs a fish out of my bucket and flies off -- me in hot pursuit on the ground, shaking my fist.

Yeah the pelican won. I could never shoot them though. Clever little fvckers they are.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (EgwCt)

295 It took me a long time to learn, but there is a single all encompassing rule when it comes to politicians.

Whenever they open their suck holes, you can bet that the exact opposite is what is going down.

Posted by: Kestrel at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (3qhq4)

296 I blame the GOP.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (mcI77)

297 Sessions is a politician. Sessions gives the impression he is working with the group that includes Comey. Sessions should resign or remove that impression. Trump has called Sessions out. Go after Hillary or get lost. If Sessions won't go after Hillary then Sessions gives an indication as to where his loyalties lay.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (cfHE9)

298 I have been here long enough that I remember when ace you to get really mad and tell us to knock it off with the Ewok shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (mf5HN)


And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (eKbO9)

299 Just saw on Twitter (fwiw) that Trump asked Sessions to fire Mueller and Sessions said "no."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (HiDrR)

Back that up with a facebook post and you've got a scoop!

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (3myMJ)

300 295 It took me a long time to learn, but there is a single all encompassing rule when it comes to politicians.

Whenever they open their suck holes, you can bet that the exact opposite is what is going down.
Posted by: Kestrel at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (3qhq4)

Which is why I supported Trump.... as a business Man he only lies half the time....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 01:25 PM (NgKpN)

301 292 How do you sex a shelf?

Well, I generally start with the brackets...
Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (EsHMF)


Molly bolts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:25 PM (mbhDw)

302 next time someone blows the margins I wish they would swallow or at least spit it where other commenters don't have to step in it

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 01:25 PM (CrPLf)

303 Actually, if Sessions ankles the DoJ, the logical choice to explode heads as a replacement would be....

J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:20 PM (mbhDw)
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I like the way you think!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:25 PM (vg8iE)

304 298 I have been here long enough that I remember when ace you to get really mad and tell us to knock it off with the Ewok shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (eKbO9)

Just because your mom reads your blog doesn't mean you're a homo.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:25 PM (0mRoj)

305 Just saw on Twitter (fwiw) that Trump asked Sessions to fire Mueller and Sessions said "no."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (HiDrR)

Back that up with a facebook post and you've got a scoop!
Posted by: Meremortal



I'm so old, I remember when that was called insubordination.
Which is a firing offense.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (Bd48Y)

306 I think I know the answer, but these days...???
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Ace identifies as a male-ish ewok, with a JCrew messenger bag and a garbage fetish.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (Lutdd)

307 >>Just saw on Twitter (fwiw) that Trump asked Sessions to fire Mueller and Sessions said "no."

>>Apparently that's why Trump is fed up with Sessions.

Maybe not. Sessions can't fire Mueller, only Rosenstein can do that and he said back in May he would only do it for cause.

Remember, there are people on twitter who think a 100% inheritance is a good thing. In other words, lots of people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (/tuJf)

308 Can I just plead the fifth on my tax returns now?

Cliff Gilley, Studied Constitutional Law during law school with a primary focus on First Amendment issues related to medi...Answered 175w agoHere's
the thing - you can't "plead the fifth" unless you are being questioned
about violating some crime. While you certainly could write on your
IRS tax return "I plead the Fifth", you are still going to fail to file
your tax forms properly, and by doing so invoke the administrative
repercussions of doing so. Keep in mind, "pleading the Fifth" is not
complete immunity from prosecution for violations of the law; it is
merely a protection against you providing statements that may
incriminate you.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (mpXpK)

309 268 The NFL is dead. It's just zombie football now.

"The degenerative brain disease chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) has been diagnosed in 110 of 111 former NFL players whose brains were donated for research, according to a study published in The Journal of the American Medical Association on Tuesday.

"In total, CTE was diagnosed in 87% of 202 former football players - including high school, college, NFL, Canadian Football League and semipro."
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 01:18 PM (Nwg0u)

Well, that would tend to explain the last quarter and a half of the Super Bowl.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (RD7QR)

310 I remember my first trip to Florida as a kid. Catching fish in my aunts backyard. Putting my catch in a big bucket. Some big ass pelican comes flying in my direction. I ignored it.

Next thing I hear a commotion behind me, the pelican grabs a fish out of my bucket and flies off -- me in hot pursuit on the ground, shaking my fist.

Yeah the pelican won. I could never shoot them though. Clever little fvckers they are.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (EgwCt)



As a kid I once hooked a pelican. I cast my line, and as it hit the water, a pelican flying overhead dove and hit the bait.

I reeled him in, and we played hell for a few minutes trying to get the hook out of the damned things mouth while it flopped and struggled, but eventually we did, and it flew off.

Posted by: Gabby Giffords at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (SRKgf)

311 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (SRKgf)

312 Can you name your Manatee "Spanky"? I'm imaging this Manatee swimming through the intercoastal with a bright red rear-end and a devilish smile on his Manatee face.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (ylUqT)

313 305 Just saw on Twitter (fwiw) that Trump asked Sessions to fire Mueller and Sessions said "no."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 01:23 PM (HiDrR)

Back that up with a facebook post and you've got a scoop!
Posted by: Meremortal



I'm so old, I remember when that was called insubordination.
Which is a firing offense.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (Bd48Y)

Firing offense?

Rum, sodomy and the LASH!!!!

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (NgKpN)

314 If Trump thinks the left is on him about Russia now, wait until he fires Sessions.
Posted by: JackStraw

_______

It will engulf the Administration.

My advice would be find some sort of working relationship and move on. After 2020, fire him.

I'm sure Sessions recused himself because he knew Russia was nothing, but then a combination of a rabid press, NeverTrump GOP Senators, and Trump doing some stupid things just kept it alive.

But if you fire your FBI Director, Special Prosecutor, and AG all over "Russia", eventually it starts looking like OJ going down the freeway in the White Bronco.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (1+bvq)

315 Also, the people that say that the Donald should either chastise Sessions privately or fire him and move on are right. This isn't the way to treat your people and it looks bad.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (RD7QR)

316 287 281 How do you sex a shelf?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:21 PM (mbhDw)


You get it nice and liquored up with a bottle of Tanqueray.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 01:22 PM (XMDuf)

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then Drill Baby Drill!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (PNcou)

317 Well, that would tend to explain the last quarter and a half of the Super Bowl.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (RD7QR)



It would also explain a lot of interviews of NFL players.

Now I'm waiting for a similar report about soccer players heading the ball. I live in hopes that that misbegotten game gets banned. To hell with the soccer moms. Let Tristan and Buffy play baseball/ softball.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (SRKgf)

318 have been here long enough that I remember when ace you to get really mad and tell us to knock it off with the Ewok shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.


Posted by: OregonMuse
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good times. good times.

The current iteration of the Ace Software program is much more stable.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (xUXis)

319 And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (eKbO9)


"Guys, can we please cut down on the swearing because the ad people have someone reading the comments and she asked if they really had to say fuck so much."

I'll be honest, I think being told you have to read the comments here as part of your job is prima facie harassment or a violation of the Geneva Conventions or something.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (mf5HN)

320 *sighs*

This is when I really detest parts of this polyglot species called Humanity. In the death of Justine Damond, the BLM crows are a squawking about how black lives matter also.

And who is peddling such? Shawn 'Talcum X' King.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y736m3wm

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:29 PM (QHd8M)

321 I think the whole thing is a troll on the media to get them to at least tangentially discuss HRC's russia connections and whatever else was in those tweets.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:29 PM (EsHMF)

322 298 I have been here long enough that I remember when ace you to get really mad and tell us to knock it off with the Ewok shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (eKbO9)

++++

I don't recall that one, but there was another one where he said in no uncertain terms that he would no longer tolerate be described that way. The comments promptly filled up with with people claiming he was the biggest homo anyone ever heard of. lol

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:29 PM (pvjTE)

323 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (1+bvq)

You can't wait until 2020 for a lot of this stuff...

Statute of Limitations on the Clinton and Obama staff crap will have expired.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (NgKpN)

324 Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (Bd48Y)

Firing offense?

Rum, sodomy and the LASH!!!!

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (NgKpN)

I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

325 So, Trump should act like all other politicians.

No thanks, I'll take the present hysterics over that.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (3myMJ)

326 I'll take the Fifth.

* tries to focus *

Aw hell. I'll take two Fifths. Yeah, thash it.

* stumbles into floor lamp *

* falls down *

* vomits *

Posted by: DistHillary at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (j+dfT)

327 Now I'm waiting for a similar report about soccer players heading the ball. I live in hopes that that misbegotten game gets banned. To hell with the soccer moms. Let Tristan and Buffy play baseball/ softball.
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NPR is on it. They had a segment about it a couple weeks ago. Not that I would sully myself as to listen to NPR - I saw it elsewhere.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (vg8iE)

328 My prediction is, someday in the future, when they are writing the history of 2017, one of the overarching themes will be how silly it was, that after so many years, people acted like it was a shock that Russia f**ks with us. Every way they can.

And it's been said a million times, a million ways, Russia is, was, and always shall be, infinitely better at monkeying up our works, than we are theirs.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (TOk1P)

329 But if you fire your FBI Director, Special Prosecutor, and AG all over "Russia", eventually it starts looking like OJ going down the freeway in the White Bronco.
Posted by: Maritime



Then tell the special counsel to put up or shut up & gtfo.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (Bd48Y)

330 I think being told you have to read the comments here as part of your job is prima facie harassment or a violation of the Geneva Conventions or something.

-
Definitely a hostile work environment.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (Nwg0u)

331 319 And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 01:24 PM (eKbO9)

"Guys, can we please cut down on the swearing because the ad people have someone reading the comments and she asked if they really had to say fuck so much."

I'll be honest, I think being told you have to read the comments here as part of your job is prima facie harassment or a violation of the Geneva Conventions or something.
Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (mf5HN)

Especially after that epic meltdown the other night

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 01:31 PM (jxbfJ)

332 170
What's the chance this PDT's biggest smoke screen yet?
Posted by: the guy across the street

Thought has crossed my mind.
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:58 PM (FZYNt)




Mine too. Remember, Sessions WAS the guy stopping Bush's Hispandering Scamnesty once. I still believe Jeff is biding his time, getting his artillery lined up, and will lower the boom, in concert with The Donald, eventually.

That or he just doesn't have it anymore and he needs to go. :-(

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 25, 2017 01:31 PM (ujg0T)

333 I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

========

You want rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

You'll take rum and sodomy with Dana Perino.

You'll get rum and sodomy FROM Lena Dunham.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:31 PM (vg8iE)

334 And I've been here long enough to remember when ace pleaded with us to stop calling him a homo because his mom sometimes stops by to read his blog.

Ace's mom might be an 'ette?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 01:31 PM (IZPn8)

335 Soccer is a gateway drug to sodomy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:31 PM (LjR2k)

336 "Well, that would tend to explain the last quarter and a half of the Super Bowl.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist"


Speaking of the NFL, I read that the Falcons new stadium will sell hot dogs for $2 and beers for $5. Good for Arthur Blank. Maybe that will shame some other owners to consider not gouging loyal customers.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 25, 2017 01:32 PM (OD2ni)

337 324 Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (Bd48Y)

Firing offense?

Rum, sodomy and the LASH!!!!

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:27 PM (NgKpN)

I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

You might want to wait and see the size of the strap-on she brings

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 01:32 PM (jxbfJ)

338 I'm very glad Frey (Patterico) won his case. I suppose I'll always be disappointed that Ace made like a Republican Senator the instant shit started to get real in that case.

But I suppose it's always easy to say that you'd hang tough when it isn't your neck on the line. I've been in lawsuits, and I've accepted settlements that I wasn't real happy with, so I know how it goes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 01:32 PM (mnh4u)

339 323 Statute of Limitations on the Clinton and Obama staff crap will have expired.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (NgKpN)


There is no statute of limitations on income tax fraud so they can get Scankles for that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:32 PM (mpXpK)

340 So you are telling me that AoS is much like Dr. Strangelove.

"There will be no fighting in the War Room!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:32 PM (QHd8M)

341 I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

Great minds must think alike.

Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. Her nice, round ample bosom is to die for in that blue shirt for the Carry Guard ad.

If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (Jcg9Q)

342 All that Democrats and Russians stuff is old news and, besides, Hillary isn't President (stolen election). Get over it!

Posted by: Mirrorless Beaudreau at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (qYCgM)

343 222,
"GPS = the Global Power of Socialism"

Global Progressive Socialism.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (d3wbb)

344 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (mpXpK)

345 I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

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if we're running low, i can pass on the rum

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (PNcou)

346 Fusion GPS pleads the fifth?

Are you paying attention, Attorney General Sessions or do we need to draw a fucking map for you, you beady-eyed swamp fever contaminant.

Tick-tock, motherfucker.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (4AVeu)

347 I think the whole thing is a troll on the media to get them to at least tangentially discuss HRC's russia connections and whatever else was in those tweets
==============
The media has been discredited even in the minds of even the most unengaged citizens. I think also, that the two party dynamic is seen by many as nothing more than a carnival show for the rubes.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (QYLZ4)

348 Mine too. Remember, Sessions WAS the guy stopping Bush's Hispandering Scamnesty once. I still believe Jeff is biding his time, getting his artillery lined up, and will lower the boom, in concert with The Donald, eventually.

That or he just doesn't have it anymore and he needs to go. :-(
Posted by: Curmudgeon

_____

I think Sessions recusing himself was stupid, but he honestly has been fighting for these issues a lot longer than Trump has.

My fear is someone that is one of the good ones in the AG office is unfortunately having a very bad personality conflict with his boss and its now sidelining the entire agenda.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (1+bvq)

349 Yeah, firing Sessions will bring down more heat on PDT. Get real.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (mcI77)

350 >>Now I'm waiting for a similar report about soccer players heading the
ball. I live in hopes that that misbegotten game gets banned. To hell
with the soccer moms. Let Tristan and Buffy play baseball/ softball.


*looks both ways, then whispers*
This is all a plot perpetrated by Big Stacking Cup!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

351 All that Democrats and Russians stuff is old news and, besides, Hillary isn't President

But of course. But so is Trump and Russia. Been called a "nothing burgher" by even leftists at CNN/MSNBC/WTF. Remember when the dem's had an organization called MoveOn.org? Wonder what they're up to these days.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (EsHMF)

352 341,

"Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. "

Is that one of the options for members? If so we might switch either mine or my wife's selection.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (d3wbb)

353 If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:33 PM (Jcg9Q)


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Girl know how to do a double concealed carry

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PNcou)

354 I don't know why the Dems were so opposed to Sessions. His appointment has done nothing but helped their cause so far.

If he had the upstanding character people says he has he would resign immediately. It's only been six months and he has lost the confidence of the President and has done nothing but address the low hanging fruit issues at the DOJ.

He is now a default adversary of the President and doing more harm than good.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (A3edJ)

355 @257: you.ve heard a lot from CAIR through their gaslight media mouthpieces

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (g+Dix)

356 The media has been discredited even in the minds of even the most unengaged citizens.

Mostly true on the front part but not so much the back. Otherwise they'd have to eventually change their tune. Somebody is still watching CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc. etc. etc. Those advertisers aren't paying big bucks for empty eye sockets.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (EsHMF)

357 Scarmucci fired Priebus's favorite butt boy for leaking. Too bad asshole. Go suck more GOP dick now.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (mcI77)

358 If the head of Fusion takes the Fifth, that basically means the dossier was fake planted by Russia for the benefit of the Dems. Trump should fire Sessions and ask why the hell HIS campaign is being investigated? That's a damn good question.

An even better question is how come obvious Kremlin-planted disinformation has been used by Democrats to try to nullify the election, and to try to shift the narrative away from the REAL interference.. THEIRS!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (4hIeD)

359 I'd like to know who's paying for Fusion Boy's legal services.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (F4kQO)

360 Attorney General Sessions today announced the arrests of over 4,000 people with overdue library books in 17 states.

"This is the largest federal sweep in the history or forever," Sessions said. "Let it not be said that the Department of Justice is resting on its laurels and doing nothing under this President."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (4AVeu)

361 Yepremian was part of the NFL concussion class action suit. What a joke.

Only thing more annoying than privileged pampered elites is privileged pampered athletes.

By the way, did you guys know that cigarette smoking could be bad for your health?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (A3edJ)

362
317 Well, that would tend to explain the last quarter and a half of the Super Bowl.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:26 PM (RD7QR)


It would also explain a lot of interviews of NFL players.

Now I'm waiting for a similar report about soccer players heading the ball. I live in hopes that that misbegotten game gets banned. To hell with the soccer moms. Let Tristan and Buffy play baseball/ softball.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 01:28 PM (SRKgf)

As a former pitcher, I would not rule out brain injuries in baseball/softball. I still don't remember reacting to save my face from a liner. Guy was built like GorillaPundit and didn't even get out of the box.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (e1mEI)

363 245 184 Comment #96 is the one that blew the margins. Loooong URL, with no spaces inserted.

Always insert spaces or use tinyurl, people!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

++++

Actually, it was #116.

Even better than spaces are line breaks. And if the comment gets rejected because the string is too long, put the space at the end of the line. It gets stripped out by the commenting software; meaning that the person following the link doesn't have to edit the link to remove the spaces.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/07/25/bay-
area-isis-supporter-wanted-to-redefine-terror-kill-10000/

In the above link, I put a line break after "bay-" and then I added a space at the end of line. But, if you highlight both lines, you won't see my space at the end of the top line, since the software edits out those end of line spaces before it publishes the comment.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous


No!!!

Notice how, even after my "problematic" comment was "fixed," the margins are STILL BLOWN.

That's because my comment at #116 did not blow the margins. In fact, they were already blown by then -- by comment #96. And that comment still has the long URL, which is the problem.

Yes, your way works to break up long URLs, and I sometimes do that too, but a space also works. I will try to use your solution more, if indeed it is easier to cut-and-paste.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

364 Didn't Sessions recuse himself after questions from that fraudulently elected Al Franken?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (FJr2+)

365 It is obvious, to me anyway, that although anyone can exercise his/her constitutional right not to incriminate ones self by refusing to answer questions in judicial proceedings, when one represents a public company doing business with the government, that company should be investigated, punished, and embargoed from doing business with the government.

Posted by: Olcountryboy at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (AzlMk)

366 George Washington, cautioned about the power and corruption inherent in political parties; but hey, he is just an old dead white guy who owned slaves. So he doesn't count.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (gbWkA)

Morning Rant

talking ape.jpg"So I'm watching CNN the other day (stop laughing) and they show a bunch of anti-Trump protestors marching around and waving signs, and it's obvious that the signs all have the same slogan and all look to be professionally printed. Why does it never occur to any of CNN's crack journalists to ask one of the protestors where did they get their signs from, and who printed them? Or, how about: did you ride to the protest on one of those buses over there, and where did the buses come from and who paid for them? These seem to be simple, basic, Journalism 101 questions that they ought to be asking right out of the gate, but never do. Sigh. Nobody listens to a gorilla."

Below the fold, why Britain is doomed:



Also, just a reminder, in case you need one, that progressives will never stop trying to separate you from your life, liberty, and property:


100 per cent inheritance tax.jpg

Update: Abi claims to have been assaulted by Uber.

(h/t @ghostie55555 on Twitter)

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:25 AM




Comments

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1 The Eds at Ricochet liked my post enough to promote it to the front page like within an hour of my writing it. "Why Not Senator Kid Rock?"

http://tinyurl.com/y87lnk5b

Posted by: V the K at July 25, 2017 11:25 AM (O7MnT)

2 Also... First... I would have said it sooner, but I did not think I would be first.

Posted by: V the K at July 25, 2017 11:25 AM (O7MnT)

3 "So then I says, "at these prices, you won't get many more."

Posted by: The Gorilla at July 25, 2017 11:25 AM (PXj2C)

4 Gorilla: "I was going to pass on some bananas to my kid, but then I said fuck it and ate them. No sense dying hungry."

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 11:26 AM (UCap9)

5 Greater Good = My virtue-signaling programs

I'm sure that gal would would feel super-dooper altruistic spending someone else's inheritance.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:26 AM (NOIQH)

6
Dear Lord, I so want to meet this Abi Wilkinson face to face and "explain things" to her. What a fucking disgusting little slut.

Thanks, Oregon Muse. My BP is spiking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:26 AM (mbhDw)

7 Tax Abi Wilkinson at 100% income tax rate. For the greater good.

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:27 AM (7n4KQ)

8 Eighth?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:27 AM (zpYxD)

9 The idea that we should be able to pass on our life's accumulated wealth is deeply embedded. But imagine if we could use that money for the greater good."

You first, scrunt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:27 AM (PXj2C)

10 Is it OK if I want to slap her?

Posted by: just another infidel at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (psRKF)

11 Abi Wilkinson has some very VERY big thoughts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (PXj2C)

12 It's exceptionally rare that I see a punchable face that is female. Good show Abi.

In real life, though, I would simply avoid her, by sprinting across the street if need be. Because I was raised right.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (RwwCT)

13 Dear Lord, I so want to meet this Abi Wilkinson face to face and "explain things" to her. What a fucking disgusting little slut.

Look at her picture. She's a smug, greedy Millennial who wants other people's money and wants the state to give it to her.

Posted by: V the K at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (O7MnT)

14 "child-free" barren beyotch no doubt

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (hMwEB)

15 Hell, half the time those printed protest signs have the sponsor's name and/or website url in small print on the bottom, such as the labor union's name or CPUSA. Not exactly investigative journalism to figure it out.

Also: how about asking them if they're being *paid* to protest, and if so, is it a "living wage"?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (NOIQH)

16 Abi I'm imagining that all of your Lefty millionaire and billionaire heirs would be the first to feed you to the pigs.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (A3edJ)

17 Abi has probably aborted all her babies in the name of feminist empowerment, so, what difference does a 100% inheritance tax make?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (PXj2C)

18 Abi looks like she's about to bust out crying. Like the blonde with the dimpled chin who does those Quell commercials. Wonder if they're related.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (zpYxD)

19 The essence of liberalism: "Other people should do these things, should give up these things, and should stop doing these things.

"You must change. I will not change my behavior one iota, however."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 25, 2017 11:30 AM (MZcWR)

20 I once heard a NPR commentator state that "we all agree you can make as much as you want but you can't take it with you."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 11:30 AM (IqV8l)

21 Why let them keep it to begin with, Abi. Think of how much more good we could do with it? Let's start with *yours*, Abi dearest.

Posted by: Other people's money at July 25, 2017 11:30 AM (GdLqN)

22 I'm going to guess Abi's parents are broke.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 11:30 AM (yzxic)

23 Abi, and I say this will all due respect & sincerity,


Suck my dick.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:30 AM (Bd48Y)

24 "The greater good." Holy crap, has she seen what the government spends money on?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (PXj2C)

25 13 Dear Lord, I so want to meet this Abi Wilkinson face to face and "explain things" to her. What a fucking disgusting little slut.

Look at her picture. She's a smug, greedy Millennial who wants other people's money and wants the state to give it to her.
Posted by: V the K at July 25, 2017 11:28 AM (O7MnT)



She is the reason why what used to be laughable old coots like Bernie Sanders are to be taken very seriously.

Never more than a generation away from tyranny.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (mbhDw)

26 Abi has bi-polar cutter written all over her.

Posted by: Tentotwo at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (yhf6w)

27 Gorilla: "I haven't really been following this whole Charlie Gard thing, but then again I usually kill other male's offspring. Seems more efficient. Oh, and who bitch this is?"

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (UCap9)

28 I'm sure that gal would would feel super-dooper altruistic spending someone else's inheritance."

Tell her she doesn't get mum's tea set. "that's not what I meant" as she stomps out the door...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (MINbv)

29 GOP leadership is either retarded or corrupt.

Or, maybe I need to better understand the power of "and"...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybxolwng

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (ylUqT)

30 She's a Brit. Nowadays they're all (at least the Londoners) all nuts anyway.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (zpYxD)

31 The unions paid for all that stuff. But you will never hear that from the news.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (mpXpK)

32 Abi someone. Abi Normal.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (7HtZB)

33 18 Abi looks like she's about to bust out crying. Like the blonde with the dimpled chin who does those Quell commercials. Wonder if they're related.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (zpYxD)


Actually, Abi sort of looks like Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (eKbO9)

34 As long as I'm the one deciding what is the greater good, I'm fine with it.

Wait. Whut?

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (+Nlhp)

35

I'd hit it....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (FYe3W)

36
She has a Twitter account (of course). For anyone here at the horde, like Ace, who has one.... Commence firing, fire at will.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (mbhDw)

37 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!

Posted by: Lefties Everywhere at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (pMGkg)

38 The truth is, the estate of a deceased "freelance journalist" will probably be insufficient to pay off her Mastercard bill.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (PXj2C)

39 Actually, Abi sort of looks like Chelsea Clinton.


sounds like her too

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (7n4KQ)

40 Abi, I wanted a boy. You're a disaster.

Posted by: Abi's Daddy at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (gbWkA)

41 29
GOP leadership is either retarded...

You could have stopped there and you would have saved yourself some typing.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (jxbfJ)

42 Isn't "boys and gals" abusive language?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (IqV8l)

43 36
She has a Twitter account (of course). For anyone here at the horde, like Ace, who has one.... Commence firing, fire at will.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (mbhDw)

Who has the more profound insights into the human condition - Abi Normal or Chelsea Clinton?

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (7HtZB)

44 Abi is a "freelance journalist". I suspect she does understand estate and trusts law.

Posted by: Penfold at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (Fbt5B)

45 Abi has bi-polar cutter written all over her.
Posted by: Tentotwo



Bunny boiler.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (Bd48Y)

46 Abbie Wilson is a "freelance Journalist"? I think you "misspelled communist c*nt" guys

Thanks for raising my blood pressure I really appreciate it ~ feh.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (IUXTz)

47 33 18 Abi looks like she's about to bust out crying. Like the blonde with the dimpled chin who does those Quell commercials. Wonder if they're related.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:29 AM (zpYxD)

Actually, Abi sort of looks like Chelsea Clinton.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017

*
*
Yeah, a little. But potentially prettier. (Potentially = that scowl ruins it.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (zpYxD)

48 >>The Eds at Ricochet liked my post enough to promote it to the front page
like within an hour of my writing it. "Why Not Senator Kid Rock?"


Niiiice!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (NOIQH)

49 24 "The greater good." Holy crap, has she seen what the government spends money on?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (PXj2C)


Borrowing an argument from alexthechick, I don't mind promoting 'the greater good' just as long as I get to define what 'the greater good' is.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (eKbO9)

50 Abi Wilson can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (mpXpK)

51 38 The truth is, the estate of a deceased "freelance journalist" will probably be insufficient to pay off her Mastercard bill.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (PXj2C)

It would be insufficient to pay for dinner at Arby's.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (7HtZB)

52
The idea that we should be able to pass on our life's accumulated wealth is deeply embedded. But imagine if we could use that money for the greater good."


That accumulated wealth doesn't just get passed on to relatives it's passed on to charitable foundations and many other organizations doing good work.Who the hell appointed this scrunt to determine what the greater good is?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (lKyWE)

53 Abi Wilkinson, noted "Spock eyebrow" practitioner.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (UCap9)

54 Who has the more profound insights into the human condition - Abi Normal or Chelsea Clinton?



Go rilla Pundit.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (Bd48Y)

55 Silly Abi.

Within seconds of reading your drivel, I already have formulated 6 different ways of avoiding your tax and having my kids get all my stuff when I die, without you ever finding out.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (k2QdF)

56 I'm sure Abi knows if she had her way the government would own or eventually own most of the Fortune 500 companies .



Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (A3edJ)

57
About 50 comments in so, okay.

What a fucking CVNT.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM (mbhDw)

58 Oops, read that wrong should be Abi Wilkinson

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM (mpXpK)

59 Well if GB implemented the 100% inheritance tax it would leave an awful lot more room for the muslims.... Everyone with anything would leave... Win,win!

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM (O2RFr)

60 >>>dinner at Arby's

FEELS LIKE AN ARBY'S NIGHT!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM (UCap9)

61 57
About 50 comments in so, okay.

What a fucking CVNT.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM

*
*
Ah, the Roman way of spelling it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:35 AM (zpYxD)

62 It's weird how we have all these great ideas, like universal healthcare, $15-20 minimum wage, 100% inheritance tax, free college, etc, which we're assured will bring incredible wealth, and yet our most liberal states, like California, refuse to enact them to reap the benefits and prove the point.

Instead, they seem to insist on implementing everything nationally, were cost overruns are more easily ignored, and flight of the affected citizens is more difficult. It's a real puzzler.

Posted by: Grimaldi at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (V/f/L)

63 "Abi Wilkinson is a freelance journalist."

Everybody is these days, toots.

Posted by: fly gal at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (8TdcF)

64 55 Silly Abi.

Within seconds of reading your drivel, I already have formulated 6 different ways of avoiding your tax and having my kids get all my stuff when I die, without you ever finding out.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 25, 2017 11:34 AM (k2QdF)


My mother made me a co-depositor on all her accounts a few years before she died. She wasn't wealthy but the IRS did not get one thin dime.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (mbhDw)

65 A bi what? Oh, that's right, you're a "unique" person spelling your name ridiculously and spouting ideas that have never worked. There's a million more where she came from.

Posted by: pookysgirl at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (XKZwp)

66 I'm feeling quite smug about having got everyone debating inheritance you know --Abi Wilkinson


________

She's a real treat.

Posted by: Orson at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (gfKOD)

67 I want to punch Abi Wilkinson in the face.



Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (jjaLl)

68 Abi Wilkinson is a communist.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (cAnNx)

69 Yeah, a little. But potentially prettier. (Potentially = that scowl ruins it.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 25, 2017 11:33 AM (zpYxD)

-------------------------------------
That's a reverse Mona Lisa pose. The real problem is some out of control hair. That ruins the effect and leads to the negative focus on the scowl.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (SsblQ)

70 A 100% estate or inheritance tax has been a wet dream of the progs for a good long time. Even her lust for theft is wholly derivative.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (0mRoj)

71 One would think your head would explode with such stupid thoughts, dear.

Isn't she precious.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (gbWkA)

72 Getting rid of the death tax once and for all would be a huge accomplishment for this worthless Congress.

Even Dubya Bush was for a short time able to get rid of it.

Let Democrats run on reinstating the death/estate tax and see if that's a political winner for them.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (LHzKO)

73 Even I wasn't that stupid. And I could spell 'Abbie.'

Posted by: Zombie Abbie Hoffman at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (XffXq)

74 I think Abi needs a helicopter ride.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (fA1SL)

75 Abi - we've started a gofundme page for you! I am sure all your millenial friends without jobs will be putting in some money towards your goal.
The rest of us will pass, you'll have to find another way to make yourself feel "useful & thoughtful".

Posted by: GoFundMe page for Abi at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (3aBcq)

76 Dear Abi-

Life is hard. It's even harder when you are stupid.

Don't be stupid.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (/tuJf)

77 What exactly is the greater good of which this Abi speaks? Is it HER definition of greater good? Why is that definition better than mine? And is she going to give up all of her money for the greater good, or is it different because it's hers?

sorry. I'm in a crap mood because our Newfie may have wobbles, and we cannot afford the treatment for that (tens of thousands of dollars.) We just lost one dog, and may lose another, so when a twit like this spews inanity, it tends to jump on my last nerve.

Posted by: moki at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (V+V48)

78 74 I think Abi needs a helicopter ride.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 25, 2017 11:37 AM (fA1SL)



Orinoco crocs gotta eat. Same as worms.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (mbhDw)

79 One would think your head would explode with such stupid thoughts, dear.

Isn't she precious.
Posted by: Strobe




Bless her coal black heart.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (Bd48Y)

80 >>A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!


Exactly. Can see it now...<em>In a strange coincidence, Bill Gates, Jeff Zuckerberg and Carlos SLim all died within the last week. Congressman Puffinstuff announced that, while tragic, we now have enough money to fund Planned Parenthood, 10 million new refugees, and gender re-assignment surgeries for the next 3 years!!</em>

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (NOIQH)

81 moki

Sorry bout your dog....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

82 Instead, they seem to insist on implementing everything nationally, were cost overruns are more easily ignored, and flight of the affected citizens is more difficult. It's a real puzzler.
Posted by: Grimaldi

++++++

They know the US Treasury can print the difference for a long, long time.

Look how long we've been completely broke and in heavy debt. Generation after Generation.

States can't keep doing that, look at Illinois.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (LHzKO)

83 And they wonder why we revolted back in 1776.

Perhaps what was old is new again.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or TEXIT) at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (5G252)

84
Seriously, she deserves a merciless hammering on Twitter for those that are so inclined.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:39 AM (mbhDw)

85 "I want the government to take your house and give it to me. I also want my dear friend Abdullah to murder you, you stupid church ladies, because I WANT THAT HOUSE NOW!"

-Abi Wrinklecrotch

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 11:39 AM (WDCYi)

86 Actually, Abi sort of looks like Chelsea Clinton.


sounds like her too

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (7n4KQ)

Chelsea isn't dumb. She knows she's a political prop.
Every time she says something dumb it reflects more on dear old mommy that it ever could her.

She's going to live the high life on money provided by mommy's graft. For her entire life and be nothing but an embarrassment to hillary.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (sf2BM)

87 I will consider Abi's plan after Abi gives all of her money and possessions to the government. And all of her parents and grandparents too. If she has to take that stuff from her parents and her grandparents through violence or threat of violence, so be it.

And then I will consider her offer.

Posted by: Fake at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (wFDuq)

88
It would be nice if Abi took a wrong turn and wound up in a London no-go zone. Y'know, the ones that don't exist and we're racist for saying they do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (mbhDw)

89 The goddamn corporations own all the farms and they're poisoning us with the food!

Let's take everything with a 100% inheritance tax.

Not smart enough to know all the farmers would have to sell of their farms to corporations if that tax was implemented.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (4ErVI)

90 62 It's weird how we have all these great ideas, like universal healthcare, $15-20 minimum wage, 100% inheritance tax, free college, etc, which we're assured will bring incredible wealth, and yet our most liberal states, like California, refuse to enact them to reap the benefits and prove the point.

Instead, they seem to insist on implementing everything nationally, were cost overruns are more easily ignored, and flight of the affected citizens is more difficult. It's a real puzzler.
Posted by: Grimaldi at July 25, 2017 11:36 AM (V/f/L)

That's a really interesting point. I would wager that all the tech giants and Hollywood moguls are behind it, because of course, their money is better than ours, and should stay in the family because.

Posted by: moki at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (V+V48)

91
A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!


What could go wrong?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (lKyWE)

92 A word of advice, Abi:

Smug, ignorant, and entitled is no way to go through life.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (eKbO9)

93 I'd hit that. (Er, Abi, not the gorilla)

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (xfb67)

94 Abi works as a dogwalker in between freelancing gigs.

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (7n4KQ)

95 I wouldn't even fvck her with your dick.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (gbWkA)

96 Wilkinson's response:

"I'm feeling quite smug about having got everyone debating inheritance you know"

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (PFy0L)

97 Abi - we've started a gofundme page for you! I am sure all your millenial friends without jobs will be putting in some money towards your goal.
The rest of us will pass, you'll have to find another way to make yourself feel "useful & thoughtful".
Posted by: GoFundMe page for Abi




Actually, we funded her GoFundMe page to the tune of $2.5 million dollars.


But were giving it away for the better good. So sorry Abi.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (Bd48Y)

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (JO9+V)

99 They tried something like this before in Britain, (one for you, 19 for me) and it just drove the wealthy out of the country.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (7HtZB)

100 91
A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!

What could go wrong?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 11:40 AM (lKyWE)


Arbeit Macht.... ooh, it's on the tip of my tongue. Damn.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:42 AM (mbhDw)

101 And another response by Wilkinson:

"Neg response has partly been because IHT is so unpopular, but there's also outrage at a ~young woman~ daring to write this sort of thing imo"

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (PFy0L)

102 Well bless her heart.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (Enq6K)

103 Wow, that Abi Wilkinson chick is living proof horses asses outlive horses. I imagine her tune would change if a previously unknown rich relative would die and leave her a 6-7 figure inheritance. It pays to remember that when people like that say "we" that actually mean "you".

Posted by: DaveKinNC at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (/NgNT)

104 96 Wilkinson's response:

"I'm feeling quite smug about having got everyone debating inheritance you know"

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (PFy0L)


Young Leftards actually think that Smug is a desirable trait and an end-goal to a conversation.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (WDCYi)

105 @86 is just my opinion. Among many others.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (sf2BM)

106 Greater Good = Buying Twinkies, beer, and frozen pizza for disease-riddled crack-whore single mother of eight who dropped out of junior high because "school's for chumps, yo!"

Posted by: RKae at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (Okfnt)

107 94 Abi works as a dogwalker in between freelancing gigs.
Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (7n4KQ)

And an uber driver.

And sells timeshares

And vitamin supplements

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (7HtZB)

108 'For The Greater Good'

Boy, we took care of that nonsense a while ago.

*pops in Bad Boys and Point Break double feature*

Posted by: Sgt Nicholas Angel, Sanford Village at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (JO9+V)

109 Many years ago James Lileks wrote a classic post on this attitude. He relayed a conversation he had with some activist who knocked on his door to discuss how instead of a Bush tax but could be better spent. Think it involved Lileks telling him that the dang porch the lad was standing on was built with a Bush tax rebate and take a hike.
- - - -

Abi is exactly, and I mean exactly what you'd expect. All her Guardian pieces are socialism/feminism in the extreme.

Abi Wilkinsonis a freelance journalist based in London writing about
politics, inequality, gender, popular culture, and anything else that
takes her fancy.


Apparently she's really taken a fancy to your bank account!!


Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (NOIQH)

110 Hey, Abi, let's cut to the chase. How about I saw off your head, and take all your shit now?

Posted by: some muzzie at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (XUcIQ)

111 Who's ho is this?

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (gbWkA)

112 81 moki

Sorry bout your dog....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

Thanks. I know it's OT, but these stupid little twits just frost me. They took one class in agitation, or communist history taught from the communist perspective (but since it's university, I repeat myself) and then think they have the authority to tell everyone what to do. I appreciate the new information age, but sometimes, it gives people a voice who really should have chronic laryngitis.

And I love my dog, and don't want him to suffer, but thanks to Obamacare, the cost for treatment has skyrocketed. That tax on medical equipment and procedures? Yeah, it hit the vet clinics too.

Posted by: moki at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (V+V48)

113 101 And another response by Wilkinson:

"Neg response has partly been because IHT is so unpopular, but there's also outrage at a ~young woman~ daring to write this sort of thing imo"
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:43 AM (PFy0L)


Misogyny. When you've lost the argument, whip it out and scream.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (mbhDw)

114
"Neg response has partly been because IHT is so unpopular, but there's also outrage at a ~young woman~ daring to write this sort of thing imo"
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks


SEXISM!!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (IqV8l)

115 I guess there's no reason you should be able to pass your money down to your kids when they're not actually "your" kids at all. They belong to the state.

Posted by: RKae at July 25, 2017 11:45 AM (Okfnt)

116 I'd never been to Washington until I was in my 40s, so I was able to look at it with perhaps less awe and more of a realist's eye. I was there the day after John Roberts was announced as Bush's CJ pick. Driving past the Supreme Court, I saw a group of protesters, maybe 8 or 9 people, holding up their signs. It looked rather pathetic.
Then, that night on the national news, I heard about all of the "opposition" to Roberts, and saw that same group of protesters. Except the camera angle was from inside the group, concentrating on a couple of the faces and what they were saying, never giving a wide shot that would show the whole scene, and the relative insignificance of this group. And so according to the national network that was covering this, the insane ramblings of 8 or 9 malcontents should determine the workings of a government that supposedly represents 320 million people.
If I don't see a wide shot, I pay zero attention to the protest.

Posted by: Ted K. at July 25, 2017 11:45 AM (seSmy)

117 More from Wilkinson:

"It's ridiculous I feel actually grateful to people like @BDSixsmith and @bswud for managing to write responses without being misogynistic"

"This is what drives me mad. I like being challenged! I like floating ideas and reading responses and thinking and learning! I think other people like reading things that make them consider things in new ways & that's why the Guardian runs stuff like the Utopian Thinking section"


So my take - she's writing something provocative to just float an idea and get an excuse to call critics "misogynists" or something.

This is not a serious person.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (PFy0L)

118 Hell...why wait until people die, let's just take their stuff now. For greater good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (OdK9v)

119
Abi:

There's a reason a 100% tax on inheritance is unpopular. Because it goes against thousands of years of human nature as well as the Commandment of Thou shalt not covet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (mbhDw)

120
Wilkinson's response:
"I'm feeling quite smug about having got everyone debating inheritance you know"
People aren't debating the idea sugartits.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (lKyWE)

121 THE GREATER GOOD

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (d+LlU)

122 Hey, Abi, let's cut to the chase. How about I saw off your head, and take all your shit now?
Posted by: some muzzie



Those that can, do.
Those that can't, talk about it.

You gonna keep talking?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (Bd48Y)

123 After further consideration I believe this is nothing more than click bait from Abi.





Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (A3edJ)

124 whip it out and scream.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:44 AM (mbhDw)

That's what I did & they arrested me for it!

Posted by: Doug Overton at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (7HtZB)

125 Wilkinson:

"It is absolutely *crazy* that I've even received violent threats b/c I wrote an article about tax. There's something v wrong with some men"

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (PFy0L)

126 Abi Wilkinson is a freelance idiot.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (Enq6K)

127 Parents must be so proud of their little air head making her way through the male dominated world.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (gbWkA)

128
"It is absolutely *crazy* that I've even received violent threats b/c I wrote an article about tax. There's something v wrong with some men"
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (PFy0L)

She's a dim one, isn't she?

Posted by: moki at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (V+V48)

129 Yeah,her suggestion to rob the dead would be much better received coming from a man...

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (rmVvL)

130 117
So my take - she's writing something provocative to just float an idea and get an excuse to call critics "misogynists" or something.

This is not a serious person.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (PFy0L)


This is what we said about homo marriage not so long ago and look where we are today.

That's their MO. Float an outrageous idea and then let it stew for a few years until you make it seem reasonable. Then, voila; society rots a little bit more.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (mbhDw)

131 118 Hell...why wait until people die, let's just take their stuff now. For greater good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (OdK9v)

Why make them wait to die? Why not remove their filthy kuffar head from their filthy kuffar body right now, insh'allah?

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (WDCYi)

132 96 Wilkinson's response:
"I'm feeling quite smug about having got everyone debating inheritance you know"
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:41 AM (PFy0L)


No, we're not debating inheritance, we're just arguing about what level of stupidity you're at. The choices so far are a) high, b) really high, or c) f*king high.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (eKbO9)

133 - looks a Abi -

- looks at investment portfolio, retirement and savings, smug look appears on face -

- raises eyebrow -

Fuck you Abi.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (jAZR9)

134 Pardon me, is this the utopian thinking section?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (IqV8l)

135 126 Abi Wilkinson is a freelance idiot.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (Enq6K)


Hell no! She's a professional idiot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (mbhDw)

136 >>So my take - she's writing something provocative to just float an idea
and get an excuse to call critics "misogynists" or something.
This is not a serious person.


So...a professional sh#tposter, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (NOIQH)

137 Great rant, OM.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (hyuyC)

138
There's a reason a 100% tax on inheritance is unpopular. Because it goes against thousands of years of human nature as well as the Commandment of Thou shalt not covet.


Even in ot's heyday the Catholic Church never required you to leave 100% of your inheritance to the church for salvation

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (lKyWE)

139 Arbeit Macht.... ooh, it's on the tip of my tongue. Damn.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:42 AM (mbhDw)

Such a fine line between the State taking all your stuff (fascism) and the State taking all your stuff (communism), if they didn't have different color jackboots, I don't think you could discern the difference.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (DxWUs)

140 131 118 Hell...why wait until people die, let's just take their stuff now. For greater good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (OdK9v)

Why make them wait to die? Why not remove their filthy kuffar head from their filthy kuffar body right now, insh'allah?
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 11:48 AM (WDCYi)


Fries! That's it! Arbeit macht fries! And a shake!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (mbhDw)

141 I rate this idea at 925 milikohns

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (d+LlU)

142 THE GREATER GOOD

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (d+LlU)


https://youtu.be/yUpbOliTHJY

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 11:50 AM (yzxic)

143 This is what we said about homo marriage not so long ago and look where we are today.

That's their MO. Float an outrageous idea and then let it stew for a few years until you make it seem reasonable. Then, voila; society rots a little bit more.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

----

Agreed. I really wish people would sit up straight in their chairs, pay attention, and notice the damned pattern!

Posted by: RKae at July 25, 2017 11:50 AM (Okfnt)

144 Look, taxes are only paid by people who aren't poor enough to avoid them and aren't rich enough to evade them.

Inheritance taxes work the same way; the wealthy will just find a way to position their assets so the state can't take them.

Posted by: V the K at July 25, 2017 11:51 AM (O7MnT)

145 Abi Wilkinson is a freelance idiot.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 11:47 AM (Enq6K)


Hell no! She's a professional idiot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



I wouldn't call her a professional.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 11:51 AM (Bd48Y)

146 I think we are going to need a better idiot.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 11:52 AM (SsblQ)

147 Ahh the old greater good scam.

Posted by: Locke Common at July 25, 2017 11:52 AM (mLnfL)

148 it would bring a quick end to the gay marriage tax avoidance scheme.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 11:52 AM (nFwvY)

149 Aren't we all freelance journalists these days

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 11:52 AM (9TU00)

150
Send her a copy of Levin's "Ameritopia".... COD.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (mbhDw)

151 Maryland instituted a 'Millionaires Tax.' Result: all the millionaires left Maryland.

Posted by: Thirstin' Howl at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (XffXq)

152 If Abi wants my money, she can get on her knees and earn it.

$5 at a time.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (qQq11)

153 Look, taxes are only paid by people who aren't poor enough to avoid them and aren't rich enough to evade them.

Inheritance taxes work the same way; the wealthy will just find a way to position their assets so the state can't take them.
Posted by: V the K

This is a GREAT idea!

Posted by: Bahama's Chamber of Commerce at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (9TU00)

154 Everyday I am more and more convinced that twitter was designed to expose stupid people.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (/tuJf)

155 >>That's their MO. Float an outrageous idea and then let it stew for a few
years until you make it seem reasonable. Then, voila; society rots a
little bit more.


Yep.

That's why it was so concerned when a year in to the Obama admin they were having open discussions, and inviting statements, on "universal 401k", e.g. we take all your 401ks and manage them for you, America!

These people never give up an idea like that, they just keep push, push, pushing.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (NOIQH)

156 I like the way this broad thinks.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (r5KeJ)

157 152 If Abi wants my money, she can get on her knees and earn it.

$5 at a time.
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 11:53 AM (qQq11)


I'd give her nothing. It's for the greater good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (mbhDw)

158 I like the way this broad thinks.


Posted by: Bernie Sanders at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (r5KeJ)


Read about it in the WaPo, did you?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (yzxic)

159 "Neg response has partly been because IHT is so unpopular, but there's
also outrage at a ~young woman~ daring to write this sort of thing imo"




Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (Enq6K)

160 As I said in response to the Guardian op-ed about how children belong to the state: And they wonder why Americans love their guns?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (NOIQH)

161 She is the reason why what used to be laughable old coots like Bernie Sanders are to be taken very seriously.

Never more than a generation away from tyranny.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (mbhDw)


Everyone's seen the story about Sanders stealing his neighbor's WaPo for months on end?

If we had a GOP that actually wanted to govern (yes, I know, I know), that doddering, semi-senile communist dupe's desk in Congress would be piled to the ceiling with newspapers.

Every. Single. Day.

And every day a congressional page, live on YouTube, would knock on Sanders' door and hand him a newspaper.

Make the asshole a figure of national ridicule.

But no. Congressional comity.

My aching ass.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (X6fMO)

162 39 Actually, Abi sort of looks like Chelsea Clinton.

sounds like her too
Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 11:32 AM (7n4KQ)
___________________

I doubt Chelsea Clinton wants to see inheritance taxed at 100%.

She's planning on living large (er, larger) on the millions she'll inherit from her corrupt parents.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (IBcGJ)

163 She's obviously never done the math on this, not that I would expect that from anyone proposing this. This is why socialism and communism always fails.

Posted by: Pete at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (+GIS3)

164 Why not the Greatest Good?

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (qQq11)

165 If I HAD a kid that stupid, I would not HAVE a kid that stupid.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (RuIsu)

166 I like to think that I'm what philosophers call a utility monster when it comes to my own money, so luckily for me the greater good necessitates me keeping my stuff. This is a trait that I intend to pass to my children so we're going to have to decline that 100% inheretance tax.

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (d+LlU)

167 136 So...a professional sh#tposter, eh?

Indoor work with no heavy lifting. What's not to love?

Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (v3pYe)

168 >>Why not the Greatest Good?

That would involve everyone leaving their stuff to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (/tuJf)

169 Won't old people just blow it all on their cats?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (xfb67)

170 5 Greater Good = My virtue-signaling programs

I'm sure that gal would would feel super-dooper altruistic spending someone else's inheritance.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:26 AM (NOIQH)

Yes, its all about 'I" know better than you, what to do with your life's work.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (NgKpN)

171 155
These people never give up an idea like that, they just keep push, push, pushing.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (NOIQH)


Amazing. Over 150 years since "Das Kapital" and 100 years since the December revolution. And nearly 200 million dead.

And this asshole spews the same tired old shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (mbhDw)

172 Abi is the type twit that causes a ten car pile-up at a four way stop.

Posted by: Tentotwo at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (yhf6w)

173 Sorry, Abi that your parents were complete losers who left you with nothing but a sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (XwwhT)

174 Hey bitch! I be making my money the hard way and ain't nobody taken it from me!

Posted by: Bob the cheesemaker's wife at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (gbWkA)

175 I was watching "Giant" a while ago. In one scene, the men are talking politics and they tell Liz Taylor's character to go away because it's "Man stuff."

She makes a HUGE, sarcastic, wailing scene out of it. "Oh, we stupid women just CAN'T POSSIBLY talk about politics!"

And we're supposed to watch it, shake our heads, and think, "Can you believe this is the way the world used to be?"

Instead, I was watching it and thinking, "Well, what have we gotten since they got the vote? They turned our government (which didn't even have an income tax!) into the biggest, most poorly-managed charity organization on Earth."

Posted by: RKae at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (Okfnt)

176 Joke of the Day:

CNN: Joe Scarborough Might Be Considering Running in 2020


LMAO

Hey Katshit would make a great running mate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (5y11N)

177 is it going to be like a sitcom when your lesbian wife dies and some immigrants get to move into one side of the house with a white line painted down the middle?

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (nFwvY)

178 >>Maryland instituted a 'Millionaires Tax.' Result: all the millionaires left Maryland.


Seem to recall a few years ago *one guy* left NJ for FL and their budget went down 20%. They haaaate when the golden geese can move freely.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (NOIQH)

179
"It is absolutely *crazy* that I've even received violent threats b/c I wrote an article about tax. There's something v wrong with some men"
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP

You advocated the government take our families wealth by force, and expect cookies?

Posted by: Bahama's Chamber of Commerce at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (9TU00)

180 So my take - she's writing something provocative to just float an idea and get an excuse to call critics "misogynists" or something.

This is not a serious person.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (PFy0L)

Misogynists point to Abi, and say "see?"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (XUcIQ)

181 That would involve everyone leaving their stuff to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:55 AM (/tuJf)
----------

And you in turn passing it along to me, after you added in your stuff.

Don't forget the boat. I have my eye on you.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 11:56 AM (UoSKV)

182 163 She's obviously never done the math on this, not that I would expect that from anyone proposing this. This is why socialism and communism always fails.
Posted by: Pete at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (+GIS3)


She has done the math. Since she will be the one deciding what the greater good is going to be. nudge-nudge, wink-wink.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (mbhDw)

183 Opps left my black socks pulled up

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (9TU00)

184 Give Abi one of those spinner thing a ma bobs. That'll shut her up.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (gbWkA)

185 Ah, the feminine victim trait runs deep in Wilkinson. I'm collating some of her earlier Tweets and then I'm going to go wash myself in Purell.

"Lovely to wake up to dozens of misogynistic and in some cases violent FB messages and emails from random American men. Calling me a "snowflake" after throwing an angry tantrum because you're upset that I wrote an opinion piece you dislike is quite ironic btw. I was lucky enough to have a really great dad and I honestly didn't even realise adult men were like this until comparatively late on."

"I don't care about people disagreeing, point of writing opinion is to provoke conversation & I enjoy debating stuff. I'm drawing attention to how fucked up it is some men reach for threats and dehumanising language if a woman challenges their world view."

"I don't know if that's a recent thing, but I do know loads of male thinkers questioned inheritance in the past-seemingly without this stuff. Inheritance does seem to get people particularly riled, but it's not normal or ok to respond to an argument you hate the way some have done. I mean, this sort of stuff is common online. I don't know how these men behave irl-maybe they keep their misogyny bottled up and seem normal. If I was bothered by people simply disagreeing, I wouldn't write opinion for a job and also waste tons of time debating stuff on twitter."

"(Past 24 hours a good example of why I got mad at men suddenly discovering online misogyny and claiming it's only a leftwing thing, btw). "

"I wonder if anyone ever called Rawls, Adam Smith or Nozick fugly sluts with daddy issues or sent them graphic fantasies about hurting them"


Yeah. Whatever, toots.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (PFy0L)

186 It's not going to be long before Abi or her co-religionists publish an essay with this theme: "We need their money and we can't get it until the 100% estate tax kicks in, so its time to execute the wealthy (those with actual savings) and take their money."

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (ylUqT)

187 @162

Of course; socialism isn't for the socialists; it's only for the unwashed masses of cretins who will thus benefit from their benevolent rule.

Posted by: Pete at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (+GIS3)

188 >>And you in turn passing it along to me, after you added in your stuff.

What makes you think I am going to die before you? Only the good die young.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

189 Abi? Hi. Let's have a brief discussion about incentives. Let's say I have done well financially and have children. Now, let's say I leave that money to my offspring when I join the choir eternal. Let's say further that the government gets may 35 percent of what I leave behind and my heirs get the rest. Thus, my heirs get something that they can spend in a taxable way that promotes jobs and growth and the government gets their cut. Pretty good, eh?

Now let's say we do it your way. You know what I do before I shuffle off this mortal coil? I HAVE A BIG FREAKIN' ORGY. That's right, I spend off every last dime, or give it away, or squander it in some other fashion. Thus, the government gets dick, my heirs get bupkus, and nobody benefits but the whores who attended my sendoff. Whores like you, dear. Are we clear now?

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (RD7QR)

190 They are all Relativists until you have something they want.

Then, they are fascists.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (qQq11)

191 You're not your

Posted by: #neverskankles at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (/ZGbb)

192 That's a MAN, baby!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 11:59 AM (MINbv)

193
Abi Wilkinson. Lazy cvnt.

Get off your sorry ass, take your journalism degree and throw it in the trash, and actually work for a living at something productive.

You want to tax a man his entire life, leaving him crumbs on the table, then take any accumulated possessions from him in the end. There has to be some higher insult than 'die in a fire'. Consider it uttered.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 11:59 AM (EgwCt)

194 You're not your

Posted by: #neverskankles at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (/ZGbb)

--------------------------
Who am I, then?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 11:59 AM (SsblQ)

195 Suspected leaker Michael Short has been terminated from the White House communications office, Breitbart News can confirm.
Short, an ally of White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and now former Press Secretary Sean Spicer who resigned last week was terminated on Tuesday by new White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci.


Good. It's a start

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:00 PM (5y11N)

196 What's really stupid is that if there ever was a 100% inheritance tax, people with money would just spend it like a drunken sailor ( buying houses and cars for their kids etc.) and effectively die broke so the state would get 100% of nuthin'. Ugatz.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 12:00 PM (7uYFy)

197 141 I rate this idea at 925 milikohns

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (d+LlU)


925 millikohns. I concur.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (eKbO9)

198 Seem to recall a few years ago *one guy* left NJ for FL and their budget went down 20%. They haaaate when the golden geese can move freely.



ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (Bd48Y)

199 Evelyn Farkas, a former top Obama administration Defense Department official, has advocated for the intelligence community to consider compromising sources and methods when it comes to saving American democracy.

I don't care what PDT does or says if THIS is the alternative...Put her in jail

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (5y11N)

200
What makes you think I am going to die before you? Only the good die young.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)
----------

Eh, I'm already old so there goes that theory.



Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (UoSKV)

201 Read about it in the WaPo, did you?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 11:54 AM (yzxic)


Ha! Yes, I believe it was the Sunday edition.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 12:02 PM (eKbO9)

202 Heads are rolling at the WH comms office... according BB.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 25, 2017 12:02 PM (WLK0w)

203 Why don't we fund the welfare state by taking 100% of the earnings from freelance journalists?

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:02 PM (8b+oT)

204 Imagine a world with no Abi - it's easy if try.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 25, 2017 12:02 PM (dyaak)

205 Abi can make me a sammich, but first....

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 12:02 PM (7n4KQ)

206 184 Give Abi one of those spinner thing a ma bobs. That'll shut her up.
Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 11:57 AM (gbWkA)


Slather her with baby oil and airdrop her into Aleppo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (mbhDw)

207 >>She's obviously never done the math on this, not that I would expect
that from anyone proposing this. This is why socialism and communism
always fails.


Naturally, Iowahawk and Bill Whittle have done the math --- and it is amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (NOIQH)

208 abi wilkinson is a chelseeeeee look alike, free lance, pantshitter. a child full of a crack moms meanderings.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (KP5rU)

209 Now let's say we do it your way. You know what I do before I shuffle off this mortal coil? I HAVE A BIG FREAKIN' ORGY. That's right, I spend off every last dime, or give it away, or squander it in some other fashion. Thus, the government gets dick, my heirs get bupkus, and nobody benefits but the whores who attended my sendoff. Whores like you, dear. Are we clear now?
Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 11:58 AM (RD7QR)

You've already paid taxes on accumulated wealth. You shouldn't have to pay any death tax.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (Ri/rl)

210 62 It's weird how we have all these great ideas, like universal healthcare, $15-20 minimum wage, ... yet our most liberal states, like California, refuse to enact them to reap the benefits and prove the point.

You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Posted by: Anachronda lives in California *sigh* at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (v3pYe)

211 Here's how I see the difference between commie/socialist theory and capitalist theory:


Commie/socialist theory disregards the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it fails.


Capitalist theory harnesses the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it succeeds.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (yzxic)

212
She writes for the Gaurdian so

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (lKyWE)

213 199 Evelyn Farkas, a former top Obama administration Defense Department official, has advocated for the intelligence community to consider compromising sources and methods when it comes to saving American democracy.

I don't care what PDT does or says if THIS is the alternative...Put her in jail
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (5y11N)


Brennan and Clapper are calling for a coup - an actual coup - if Mueller is fired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (mbhDw)

214 Abi looks like someone who auctioned her virginity online

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (FZYNt)

215 For Short to get fired that quickly, it means that everyone in the WH knew that he was leading, but Spicer and Priebus were giving him cover and protection.

Yeah, I realize that Priebus needs to go too, now.

And Sessions was dead to me as soon as he came out for more civil forfeiture.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (V2Yro)

216
Tax inheritance at 100% and I guaran-fooking-tee you that I'll spend doen to $0. The knowledge that offspring would be down with the confiscation idea would make the act more delicious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (EmDt7)

217 leaking, not leading

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (V2Yro)

218 212
She writes for the Gaurdian so
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (lKyWE)


"Not for our paper, hell no!"

- - Sam Drucker, Joe Carson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (mbhDw)

219 >>Evelyn Farkas, a former top Obama administration Defense Department official, has advocated for the intelligence community to consider compromising sources and methods when it comes to saving American democracy.

I think Farkas is up to her ass in all this Russia, leak stuff. She was a Asst. Sec of State for Russia under Obama and part of the Girl Power clique.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (/tuJf)

220 1. Go back in time
2. Take everyone's money
3. Hillary is President!

Posted by: Abi Wilkinson at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (qJhUV)

221 Brennan and Clapper are calling for a coup - an actual coup - if Mueller is fired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Invest in brass futures

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (FZYNt)

222 Why not fund the welfare state with a 100 percent inheritance tax?


Middle class hardest hit.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 25, 2017 12:05 PM (TdMsT)

223 It seems unfair to maximally tax dead people. Haven't they suffered enough? Better to do it earlier.

Posted by: Concerned and Compassionate Christian at July 25, 2017 12:05 PM (CPk08)

224 Abi, spouting this type of tripe caused Marie Antroinette to literally lose her head. A word of caution sugar tits.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 12:05 PM (gbWkA)

225 I'm sure Abi's 100% inheritance tax plan has exceptions. You can guess the various exemptions she would have.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 12:05 PM (A3edJ)

226
Abi looks like someone who auctioned her virginity online
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (FZYNt)


It's okay it was for the greater good

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (lKyWE)

227 I read the article. The woman is a socioeconomic-psychopath.

Their credo: "To the State, all; From the State; some"

Posted by: DrDean at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (cP8Yw)

228 Such a fine line between the State taking all your stuff (fascism) and the State taking all your stuff (communism), if they didn't have different color jackboots, I don't think you could discern the difference.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 11:49 AM (DxWUs)

The fascists had WAY better-looking jackboots than the commies, I'll give them that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (0mRoj)

229 Little Charlie Gard's parents are heading back to court one last time to plead to be allowed to take him home to die.

...a special place in hell.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (HiDrR)

230 214 Abi looks like someone who auctioned her virginity online

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (FZYNt)


But just wasn't progressive enough to give it up for Mustafa, Hassan, and Ali down the "unfortunate" side of town.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (WDCYi)

231 225 I'm sure Abi's 100% inheritance tax plan has exceptions. You can guess the various exemptions she would have.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 12:05 PM (A3edJ)



Either that, or her parents are tapped out and she figures she'll inherit bupkis in any case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (SRKgf)

232 Someone should tell Abi, Because it's my damm money ...biotch!

Posted by: Paladin at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (DPvCq)

233 Evelyn Farkas, a former top Obama administration Defense Department official, has advocated for the intelligence community to consider compromising sources and methods when it comes to saving American democracy.

I don't care what PDT does or says if THIS is the alternative...Put her in jail
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:01 PM (5y11N)


Brennan and Clapper are calling for a coup - an actual coup - if Mueller is fired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

With clowns like these in charge, we are lucky to have survived the Obama years.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (9TU00)

234 6
Dear Lord, I so want to meet this Abi Wilkinson face to face and "explain things" to her. What a fucking disgusting little slut.

Thanks, Oregon Muse. My BP is spiking.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:26 AM (mbhDw)

...

Why wait until someone is dead to take their "accumulation" if the greater good is at stake?

Hell, is there ANY decision that the state cannot make better than the individual? QED.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (yL25O)

235 216
Tax inheritance at 100% and I guaran-fooking-tee you that I'll spend doen to $0. The knowledge that offspring would be down with the confiscation idea would make the act more delicious.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (EmDt7)

You can give 14,000 per year tax free. 28,000 if you're married. The rich will always find a way to avoid taxes. A 100 percent tax will never work.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (Ri/rl)

236 Abi looks like someone who auctioned her virginity online
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (FZYNt)

And nobody made the minimum bid.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

237 If we had a just government Brennan and Clapper would be in pound your ass federal prison right now for sedition.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (gbWkA)

238 As long as we're talking about doing things for the greater good ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (SRKgf)

239 I say we take everyone's lupins and give them to the poor.

Posted by: Dennis Moore at July 25, 2017 12:07 PM (Okfnt)

240
Why not fund the welfare state with 100% of the box office receipts, ad revenue and sales from films, TV and records?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (mbhDw)

241 I can't wait to read Kurt Schlichter's reply to Abi.

Posted by: Tentotwo at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (yhf6w)

242 You want to tax a man his entire life, leaving him crumbs on the table, then take any accumulated possessions from him in the end. There has to be some higher insult than 'die in a fire'. Consider it uttered.



"May you never feel the warm embrace of a loving man's arms. May you never hear the words "momma" from a child."

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (Bd48Y)

243 Woah! Where did all the comments go?

Posted by: johnd01 at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (ukNFU)

244 24 "The greater good." Holy crap, has she seen what the government spends money on?

Well, to quote Bloom County, "Research physicists need Porsches, too!"

Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (sGtp+)

245 The fascists had WAY better-looking jackboots than the commies, I'll give them that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (0mRoj)

I concur with your analysis, next question, whose jackboots feel better when they are standing on your head?

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (DxWUs)

246 Ok they're back. I must have caught the post mid-update.

Posted by: johnd01 at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (ukNFU)

247 213 Brennan and Clapper are calling for a coup - an actual coup - if Mueller is fired.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:04 PM (mbhDw)


You know what? Go for it. Let's see that "well funded civilian force" that ValJar and Barry O-Blow-Me wanted brought out of hiding and put their cards on the table.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (WDCYi)

248 She needs a good cockslapping to get the smug off her face.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (0mRoj)

249 243 Woah! Where did all the comments go?

Posted by: johnd01 at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (ukNFU)


Peter, Paul and Mary tune?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (mbhDw)

250 Why not fund the welfare state with 100% of the box office receipts, ad revenue and sales from films, TV and records?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (mbhDw)


And 100% of the earnings of free-lance journalists. For the greater good.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (eKbO9)

251 >>Woah! Where did all the comments go?

They've been redistributed for the greater good.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (/tuJf)

252 The silly thing about a high inheritance tax is that anyone who can afford a decent estate lawyer can find a dozen ways to make sure the family pays zero. It's not hard at all - so the only people who get caught up in it are people like farm owners who own a lot of land and look rich on paper, but who have no free cash to spend on legal assistance.

Foundations, a hundred kinds of trusts, co-ownership, gifting while still alive, offshoring - those are just some of the obvious ways, there are many more.

And they will NEVER be made against the law, because this is how the people who write the laws GUARANTEE that they will personally never pay this tax. (and none of their top donors will pay it, either.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (V2Yro)

253 Just looked up Abi Wilkinson on Linkedin and she writes click bait.

Seriously.

8 unsettlingly weird tattoo / face swaps that will make you laugh out loud, and then haunt your nightmares

Quiz: 11 questions about Rik Mayall's The Young Ones to prove your knowledge of the 1980s sitcom


Sos he's apparently proud of that crap because she's linking to it on her Linkedin page. Pathetic.
If she ever does have kids, they should not expect to receive an inheritance.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (8b+oT)

254 It does seem to be a dark time for western civilization. It's children are turning away towards darkness and nihilism.

I'm gonna stick around for the laffs and all the delicious sandwiches, though.

Posted by: Max Power at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (QCc6B)

255 "May you never feel the warm embrace of a loving man's arms. May you never hear the words "momma" from a child."
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (Bd48Y)

I think that is a given.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (Ri/rl)

256 Sigh. Nobody listens to a gorilla.
..........

I don't know, you've got a devoted audience here.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (HgMAr)

257 Peter, Paul and Mary tune?

Maybe. Can you hum a few bars?

Posted by: johnd01 at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (ukNFU)

258 245 The fascists had WAY better-looking jackboots than the commies, I'll give them that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:06 PM (0mRoj)

I concur with your analysis, next question, whose jackboots feel better when they are standing on your head?
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (DxWUs)


Look up the bio for Hugo Boss.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (mbhDw)

259 Commie/socialist theory disregards the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it fails.


Capitalist theory harnesses the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it succeeds.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 12:03 PM (yzxic)



This.

Well said. Succinct, cogent, and right on the money.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (SRKgf)

260 Soviet Jackboots >Nazi Jackboots. Quantity, ftw!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (fA8OP)

261 There has to be some higher insult than 'die in a fire'. Consider it uttered.
"Die in a fire while fornicating a stingray and bathing naked in glass and alcohol" ought to cover it. DIAFWFASABNIGAA

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (eXSOZ)

262 256 Sigh. Nobody listens to a gorilla.
..........

I don't know, you've got a devoted audience here.
Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 12:09 PM (HgMAr)


Ogee and Mr. Peebles (the real one) hardest hit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (mbhDw)

263 So the lesser posts received an allocation of comments from this one?

Posted by: johnd01 at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (ukNFU)

264 Let's cash out her inheritance tax early.

Posted by: Max Power at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (QCc6B)

265 I concur with your analysis, next question, whose jackboots feel better when they are standing on your head?
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (DxWUs)

Hmmmm...

*strokes beard thoughtfully*

I'd have to go with the commies. They were generally underfed so there's be less weight.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (0mRoj)

266
Evelyn Farkas, a former top Obama administration Defense Department official, has advocated for the intelligence community to consider compromising sources and methods when it comes to saving American democracy.


Wonder how the sources that might end up dead feel about that? Not to mention what would that do to our efforts to recruit new sources

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 12:10 PM (lKyWE)

267 Why wait until you die? Confiscate everybody's wealth now for the greater good.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (hLRSq)

268 Remember when the left proposed the government taking over all 401ks--even the elective employee portion?

If the left imagines it, it also works tirelessly to see it implemented. With no thought to the unintended consequences, as per usual.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (TdMsT)

269 I see Kat Timpf cancelled a speech she was going to give in Brooklyn after some pussy "male" SJW dumped a liter of water on her and fled.

I know it's easy for me to say, but I can't help thinking Timpf is a bit of a wuss herself. I can understand being shaken up - but it was friggin' water, not acid. She wasn't beaten up. Why not give the speech as a big f you? Because her hair and makeup were wrecked? Go into the ladies room, fix yourself up and go on out there and make a joke about the coward. That's what Coulter would have done.

It annoys me that the Leftist won the battle. But then I find Timpf annoying even when she says something sensible. It's the Valley Girl/millennial fry voice that irritates me.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (ZM2xo)

270
Abi needs to be chained in a scullery somwhere for the rest of her days.

"How do you like confiscatory behavior now, bitch?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (EmDt7)

271
Sos he's apparently proud of that crap because she's linking to it on her Linkedin page. Pathetic.
If she ever does have kids, they should not expect to receive an inheritance.

Posted by: Dang

She makes spam. Her parents must be so proud.

Honestly that is lower than dollar dance night at Bob's Titty Bar in Buttfuck NM

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (FZYNt)

272 Abi Wilkinson: Click Bait Whore

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (8b+oT)

273 225 I'm sure Abi's 100% inheritance tax plan has exceptions. You can guess the various exemptions she would have.
Posted by: Jack Sock

Warren Buffet will be gay polygamous marrying his kids

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (nFwvY)

274 Abi does look a little constipated in that photo.

She also looks like she just knows how to spend that money better than you do. Why, I think I'll trust her!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (CPk08)

275 I enjoooyyy being a gorilla.

Posted by: Gorilla pundit at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (cW/qd)

276 Still think GorillaPundit is the best thing that's happened lately !

For everything else I'm way into types - deletes territory.

Well, except maybe this sobering thought:
even a a country as big and wealthy as ours, do we have enough helicopters ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (Mcvvl)

277 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!


It's like eminent domain for humans!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (PXj2C)

278 It annoys me that the Leftist won the battle. But then I find Timpf annoying even when she says something sensible. It's the Valley Girl/millennial fry voice that irritates me.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time)

All I took away from that is that Kat T backed out of a wet T-shirt contest.

grow a set, will ya?

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (FZYNt)

279 Abi isn't paid to think. She's paid to spew.

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (vkS2Z)

280 100% inheritance tax? Well...I could spend my time building equity in this company so I can leave it to my kids...and pay a bunch of taxes and employee a bunch of people...but if you are going to take 100% of it I'm retiring at 45 and moving to Costa Rica.

Posted by: Some entrepreneur at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (eSx+E)

281 brennan is a muzzie. clapper is a commie. i don't think these two suckers of cock have thought this coup all the way through. i don't think that will end the way they dream it will.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (KP5rU)

282 I gotcher greater good for ya. Right down here!

*gestures lewdly*

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (0mRoj)

283 THE GREATER GOOD
F*** You, Pay Me

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (AM1GF)

284 Joke of the Day:

CNN: Joe Scarborough Might Be Considering Running in 2020
...........

Bonus. He'll have to put his music career on hold.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 12:13 PM (HgMAr)

285 She also looks like she just knows how to spend that money better than you do. Why, I think I'll trust her!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut
-----
She's been out of school a whole four years, so yeah, expert.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:13 PM (8b+oT)

286 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!
___
Yeah I know!

Posted by: A young Logan from Logan's run at July 25, 2017 12:13 PM (eSx+E)

287 Abi Wilkinson: Click Bait Whore
Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (8b+oT)



No, "FREELANCE JOURNALIST" guys!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:13 PM (PXj2C)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (PXj2C)

289 The rich will always find a way to avoid taxes. A 100 percent tax will never work.
_______________________

Yep. They'd just put their money in offshore trusts that exist in perpetuity -- and their kids will get their checks from the trust, so no "inheritance" to speak of.

These kinds of taxes never affect the very wealthy -- only the middle class types who don't have enough to be able to afford pricey estate lawyers and financial gurus who know the ins and outs of offshore banking.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (IBcGJ)

290
Ima want every last one of you to fork over all your vowels, umlauts and ampersands right now!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (EmDt7)

291 Good grief. I was greeted by an e-mail this morning informing me Planned Parenthood is instructing parents they need to instruct their *toddlers* that gender is non-binary.

PP can DIAF.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (PY9jH)

292 Whenever I'm in need of an insightful economic plan, I look to the independent journalists.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (yL25O)

293 288
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (PXj2C)

Fuckin A, man. Right on.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (0mRoj)

294 "There's something v wrong with some men""

Riiiight. Because members of the male gender who have since childhood dreamed of building a family, have slaved for most of their waking moments to save for posterity, often in misery, only to expect to die early with the sole solace that at least their kids will have it better and the comfort that they provided for them... are supposed to react SO WELL to "ha ha we're taking your entire life's aim away".

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (eXSOZ)

295 straight out of Marx and Engels:

Nevertheless in the most advanced countries, the following will
be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents
of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means
of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive
monopoly.

6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport
in the hands of the State.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (ILitO)

296 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (qQq11)

297 "Where did you get the brain?"
"The what?"
"The brain...where did you get it?"
"Oh, some woman. Her name was Abinormal."
"Oh, ok, that should serve our purposes. Come Igor."
"It's I-gore."

Posted by: Orson at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (gfKOD)

298 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!

We're here for your liver, eh?

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (Il37q)

299 296 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?
Posted by: garrett

Everything old is new again

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (FZYNt)

300 The stupidity of the 100 percent inheritance tax is that it will eventually earn nothing for welfare.

People will set up trust funds and transfer their wealth before they pass.

Think of it. Someone works their ass off all his/her life and suddenly the government writes itself into your will?

Fuck that. I'll cash out my accounts and burn that shit before I turn it over to welfare slugs.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (4AVeu)

301 She couldn't write clickbait, but then she tried this one weird trick!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (PXj2C)

302 they back off on wealth tax when they become aware their government employee pension has CASH VALUE

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (nFwvY)

303 Riiiight. Because members of the male gender who have since childhood dreamed of building a family, have slaved for most of their waking moments to save for posterity, often in misery, only to expect to die early with the sole solace that at least their kids will have it better and the comfort that they provided for them... are supposed to react SO WELL to "ha ha we're taking your entire life's aim away".
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 12:14 PM (eXSOZ)

You pretty much described divorce.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (0mRoj)

304
Joke of the Day:



CNN: Joe Scarborough Might Be Considering Running in 2020



Run, Joe Run! will be the sticker on my front bumper.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (PY9jH)

305 the uber driver should have tossed her privileged ass out of the car for puking all over it. nothin but a damn crack whore.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (KP5rU)

306
Abi Wilkinson: Click Bait Whore

Coming in the fall on Freeform!

Posted by: tu3031 at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (qJhUV)

307 Good grief. I was greeted by an e-mail this morning informing me Planned Parenthood is instructing parents they need to instruct their *toddlers* that gender is non-binary.

PP can DIAF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

----

They also recently circulated "info" to kids that crapping and urinating on each other is how some people have sex.

Asylum. Inmates. Running it.

Posted by: Dennis Moore at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (Okfnt)

308 >>Just looked up Abi Wilkinson on Linkedin and she writes click bait.


Right, and at the end of her op-ed she admits that her intention is to normalize the idea of 100% inheritance by floating it in the first place.

This is Lefty activism 101, and no claims of innocent "just asking the question!" will hide that. She claims it's oversensitive men commenting --- when she's the one who's all, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if the state just came and took all the stuff you've earned over a lifetime to pay for low-income housing?!?" If you *don't* react forcefully you encourage the Alis of the world to keep pushing.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (NOIQH)

309 Well, except maybe this sobering thought:
even a a country as big and wealthy as ours, do we have enough helicopters ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 12:12 PM (Mcvvl)

Hercs will work, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (XUcIQ)

310 She couldn't write clickbait, but then she tried this one weird trick!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
-----
LOL!

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (8b+oT)

311 On the upside, the "I'm about to die, let's have a gala blowout!" parties would be Off. The. HOOK!!

Posted by: moronhorde minion at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (88jeI)

312 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.

I've actually heard undergraduates say that. 'Cause they know everything, yo.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)

313 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!

It says right here you are an Organ. Donor.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (Il37q)

314 310 She couldn't write clickbait, but then she tried this one weird trick!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
-----
LOL!
Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (8b+oT)

The third step shocked me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (0mRoj)

315 I concur with your analysis, next question, whose jackboots feel better when they are standing on your head?
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 25, 2017 12:08 PM (DxWUs)

Hmmmm...

*strokes beard thoughtfully*

I'd have to go with the commies. They were generally underfed so there's be less weight.
Posted by: Insomniac



Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Bd48Y)

316 Lots and lots of tweets mocking the shit out of the @wiltshirepolice. I wonder how many will they track down and punish?

Posted by: Scuba Dude at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (WsJuq)

317 "One hundred percent inheritance tax like cutting grass every week. No blade get too high."

-- Confucius

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (PXj2C)

318 311 On the upside, the "I'm about to die, let's have a gala blowout!" parties would be Off. The. HOOK!!
Posted by: moronhorde minion

Death Panels < Death Parties

Posted by: Charles Manson at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (FZYNt)

319 Why not fund the welfare state with 100% of the box office receipts, ad revenue and sales from films, TV and records?
***
The day the right starts using the force of government, for real, against the left is the day that we really start having a fight for the future of this country.

I'd like to see Trump administration pursing anti-Trust violations against Amazon, privacy violations against google, corporate accounting fraud violations against the major players in Hollywood, etc...

Hmm...but all that would depend on an AG that wasn't asleep at the wheel.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (eSx+E)

320 312 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.

I've actually heard undergraduates say that. 'Cause they know everything, yo.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)


Fight for 15 hardest hit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (mbhDw)

321 She couldn't write clickbait, but then she tried this one weird trick!



Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

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LOL!

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (8b+oT)



The third step shocked me.

Posted by: Insomniac
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I tried to not laugh!

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (8b+oT)

322 313 A government that decides when you die AND then gets everything you own? UTOPIA!!!!

It says right here you are an Organ. Donor.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (Il37q)

"It's your 40th birthday, and we've been assigned to come collect on that organ donation now."

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (WDCYi)

323 "296 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?
Posted by: garrett"


So, just another Democrat, right ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (Mcvvl)

324 I can only speak for myself...but the left is acting towards President Trump, if and when the Left ever get's the White House back, for me, There is NO going back. NO cooperation, NO compromise, NO civility, NOTHING but investigate, investigate, investigate...

You wanted uncivil war, you got it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (5y11N)

325 316 Lots and lots of tweets mocking the shit out of the @wiltshirepolice. I wonder how many will they track down and punish?
Posted by: Scuba Dude at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (WsJuq)


I guess the Wiltshire cops ran out of crop circles to investigate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (mbhDw)

326 272 Abi Wilkinson: Click Bait Whore

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (8b+oT)


Is writing click-bait a topic they teach in j-school now?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (eKbO9)

327 She also looks like she just knows how to spend that money better than you do. Why, I think I'll trust her!
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (CPk0



Manufacturers of women's shoes are gearing up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (SRKgf)

328 PUBLIC STUPIDITY IS MY SCHTICK, BITCH!!! BACK OFF!!!

Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at July 25, 2017 12:18 PM (qJhUV)

329 320 312 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.

I've actually heard undergraduates say that. 'Cause they know everything, yo.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)


Fight for 15 hardest hit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (mbhDw)

No jobs at 15 an hour because 15 an hour means no jobs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (0mRoj)

330
Abi Wilkinson = Soylent Stupid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (mbhDw)

331 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?
***
All leftwing economic proposals are ultimately about serfdom if not slavery. Forcing other people to work for your personal benefit is evil, and one of the most pernicious evils in all of human history.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (eSx+E)

332 I hope Abi's parents win a Power Ball lottery and happily inform her not to worry, they're leaving their millions when they die to her siblings, cousins, etc. But Not Her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (PY9jH)

333 296 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?
Posted by: garrett


It's worse than that. The argument works for culling the herd. You know, for the greater good.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (SRKgf)

334 You wanted uncivil war, you got it
Posted by: Nevergiveup

What we got here is, failure to communicate.

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (FZYNt)

335 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Bd48Y)
_____________________________________

It was my thyroid.

Posted by: Herman the German at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (4AVeu)

336 The idea that we "own" our own organs is deeply embedded in society.

But seriously, people, do you *really* need both kidneys, both lungs or all of your liver?

Imagine the good we could do for society if we appropriated your organs. There are people literally DYING of organ failure. What if one of them is a black lesbian scientist who could cure cancer if xhe was able to live. I can't believe how callous you assholes are!!!

Posted by: Abi Wilkinson at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (xAvrH)

337 They also recently circulated "info" to kids that crapping and urinating on each other is how some people have sex.

Asylum. Inmates. Running it.

Posted by: Dennis Moore


Used to be someone would get arrested for public obscenity for doing that...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (AM1GF)

338 straight out of Marx and Engels:

Nevertheless in the most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.





Annnnnnnnnd THAT'S when the war started.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (Bd48Y)

339 The day the right starts using the force of government, for real, against the left is the day that we really start having a fight for the future of this country.

I'd like to see Trump administration pursing anti-Trust violations against Amazon, privacy violations against google, corporate accounting fraud violations against the major players in Hollywood, etc...

Hmm...but all that would depend on an AG that wasn't asleep at the wheel.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (eSx+E)

I don't disagree, but the blowback would make this Net Neutrality crap look like a tea party.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (KUaJL)

340 No jobs at 15 an hour because 15 an hour means no jobs.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (0mRoj)



"But they'll make it up on volume!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (SRKgf)

341 You'll know that the left has embraced the idea of Forced Extermination for Organ Harvesting when they suddenly decide they want to ban drugs and alcohol.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (WDCYi)

342 Thanks, AOP !
No worries, then !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (Mcvvl)

343 abi couldn't work a truck stop gloryhole with a mouth like that. plus skanks that work gloryholes have semi functioning brains.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (KP5rU)

344 333 296 I wonder if Abi realizes she's making the argument for Slavery?
Posted by: garrett

It's worse than that. The argument works for culling the herd. You know, for the greater good.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:19 PM (SRKgf)


And yet, poor Charlie Gard is not long for this world while this execrable lump of flesh walks the earth.

G-d must have a plan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (mbhDw)

345 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.

Posted by: rickb223

I'm not fat, I'm big-boned

Posted by: Herman "Cartman" Goering at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (FZYNt)

346 Commie/socialist theory disregards the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it fails.


Capitalist theory harnesses the most basic aspects of human nature. That's why it succeeds.

Posted by: Country Singer

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People are stunned when I tell them that I think Christianity is correct and everything else is wrong. They whine, "But everyone has their own pathway to God!"

But I believe what I believe because THAT'S HOW REALITY WORKS: One thing is right and everything else is nonsense.

One economic system functions and all the others are tempting illusions. They're not all equally valid just because they all mention money.

Posted by: Dennis Moore at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (Okfnt)

347 They also recently circulated "info" to kids that crapping and urinating on each other is how some people Germans have sex.




FIFY

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (Bd48Y)

348 Is writing click-bait a topic they teach in j-school now?


Posted by: OregonMuse
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It must be. It's all they do these days. They probably have classes where they learn about the development of lists, quizzes and make-money-at-home ventures.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (8b+oT)

349 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.


Step 2 is ending lives earlier to increase tax revenue.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2017 12:21 PM (P/kVC)

350 How is laziness "the greater good?"

That's all the welfare state creates.

Dumb bitch.

Posted by: Sponge at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (xttKs)

351 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.
___________________________________

Please don't fat shame the murderous Nazi.

It's unkind.

Posted by: Safe Spacemeister of the Third Reich at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (4AVeu)

352 349 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.


Step 2 is ending lives earlier to increase tax revenue.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Step 3: Profit!

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (FZYNt)

353 those wiltshire police spell and punctuate reeeeely reeeeely like guud and shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (KP5rU)

354 I always hit on chicks who puke in my car.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (HgMAr)

355
Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Bd48Y)

Neither does Lil Kim and Mao wasn't skinny. Only the proles are subject to the Communist Weight Loss Plan.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (ZM2xo)

356 >>People are stunned when I tell them that I think Christianity is correct and everything else is wrong.


Yeah, no.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (qQq11)

357 Wow. Keep forgetting to change my name back.

I guess I'm "Dennis Moore" now.

Posted by: Dennis Moore at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (Okfnt)

358 Fuck that. I'll cash out my accounts and burn that shit before I turn it over to welfare slugs.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 12:15 PM (

A rich guy I know just used that argument on me. He went to a whisky tasting, the bottles of whiskey cost 15,000. I asked do people buy that?
He answered, would you give your money to some lazy bum that won't work? I answered no, I'll buy the whiskey.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

359 Has anybody pointed out that the Wiltshire Police are not only jackboots but illiterate ones as well? Your -> You're. Sheesh.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (eXSOZ)

360 yeah, besides the whole "government confiscation" thing. Imagine the incentive to sell everything as one ages, and take the money to some inheritance safe, foreign zone.

But these goofs listen to Lennon's "Imagine there are no borders", and think he is a deep thinker, instead of just a useful idiot, Marxist Minstrel.

Leftists are much better at confiscating than producing. If they can't confiscate it, they threaten to burn it down, kill it off.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (HQuBO)

361 So Rush just discussed the possibility of an armed coup against Trump. So we got that going for us.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)

362 351 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.
___________________________________

Please don't fat shame the murderous Nazi.

It's unkind.
Posted by: Safe Spacemeister of the Third Reich at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (4AVeu)


Safe Lebensraum. "Is it safe?!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (mbhDw)

363 You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.
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Goering killed himself before his execution and you won't believe what happened next! Try not to laugh!

They hung his fat ass anyway.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (8b+oT)

364 I don't disagree, but the blowback would make this Net Neutrality crap look like a tea party.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (KUaJL)


I'm in. Whomever steps up as the next Pinochet ... I'll back him. Or her.

Completely serious. No bullshit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (Niu5G)

365 I don't disagree, but the blowback would make this Net Neutrality crap look like a tea party.
***
You know you are taking flack when you are over the target.

Hell, let's get the Dems/FNM on record arguing that the Republicans are now too mean to mega-corps.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:24 PM (eSx+E)

366 Abi Wilkinson = Eloi

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 12:24 PM (gbWkA)

367 Obviously, Abi's parents had the good sense to write her out of their will.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 25, 2017 12:24 PM (bB4HN)

368 My mother made me a co-depositor on all her accounts
a few years before she died. She wasn't wealthy but the IRS did not get
one thin dime.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton


OH Really? Is that Sefton, with two "t"?

Posted by: IRS at July 25, 2017 12:24 PM (DPvCq)

369 "The day the right starts using the force of government, for real, against the left is the day that we really start having a fight for the future of this country. "


Good thing that Minx 0.7 doesn't allow us to change font size, 'cause this really needs to be said in 96 point bold, before I add:

THIS !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 12:25 PM (Mcvvl)

370
I'm in. Whomever steps up as the next Pinochet ... I'll back him. Or her.
***
I tend to think Trump is the last attempt by the right/normals to pull the government and society back to something rational.

If the Dems/GOPe stop that, things will get ugly...though for everyone.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 12:25 PM (eSx+E)

371 Remember when the left proposed the government taking over all 401ks--even the elective employee portion?

If the left imagines it, it also works tirelessly to see it implemented. With no thought to the unintended consequences, as per usual.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 25, 2017 12:11 PM (TdMsT)



Yep. Now that WOULD trigger the hot civil war.

Thank God for the Second Amendment, otherwise they would seriously try to do just that. But even Democrats have enough brain power to know that a heavily armed populace would start plinking Democrat politicians if they did that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:25 PM (SRKgf)

372 Leftists are much better at confiscating than producing.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (HQuBO)

God creates. Satan can only corrupt.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 12:25 PM (KUaJL)

373 Ask Abi to square the circle on Mandatory Military Service.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (qQq11)

374 The Wiltshire Police tweet: "You can't hide from us if your spewing abuse from behind a computer screen. Our boys & gals in blue will find you." #999WhatsYourEmergency

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Unless you're a Muslim groomer gang member. Then carry on!

Posted by: fly gal at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (8TdcF)

375 So Rush just discussed the possibility of an armed coup against Trump. So we got that going for us.
Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)

LOL...by whom may I ask?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (5y11N)

376 So Rush just discussed the possibility of an armed coup against Trump. So we got that going for us.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)


Do the GOPe Betters and Progs even know which end of a gun goes "pew pew pew"?

I finally unsubscribed from Morning Jolt. I don't know why it took me so long.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (PY9jH)

377 Ace up

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (mpXpK)

378 The Left is openly talking about forcefully killng people to fight Global Warming.

Unpleasant as it may be, the Death card has been placed on the table. It's in the game now.

Western Civ is f***ed.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (WDCYi)

379 Do the GOPe Betters and Progs even know which end of a gun goes "pew pew pew"?

Only if you are playing second base

Too soon?

Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (FZYNt)

380 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Bd48Y)

HELP!! HELP!! WILSHIRE POLICE!!!! Someone fat shaming someone!!!! Get him!!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (WsJuq)

381 I always hit on chicks who puke in my car.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (HgMAr)


What a deal. Instead of picking up some $15.00 fare the driver gets to spend an afternoon cleaning up the retched stench of vomit from some hostile little cvnt.

That always gives me a hard on. Said no male. Ever.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (EgwCt)

382 He answered, would you give your money to some lazy bum that won't work? I answered no, I'll buy the whiskey.
___________________________________

You have chosen wisely, Grasshopper.

Posted by: Shaolin Master Po at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (4AVeu)

383 why not force journalists to work for free? for the public good.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (ILitO)

384 352 349 Abi's next proposal: to eliminate poverty by giving everyone a 20% pay raise.


Step 2 is ending lives earlier to increase tax revenue.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Step 3: Profit!
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:22 PM (FZYNt)



Just as the ancient Romans used to put wealthy citizens on proscription lists because those on it would be killed and all their assets confiscated. A real revenue earner.

What's old is new, and vice versa.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (SRKgf)

385 Too soon?
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (FZYNt)


I laughed ... but I'm a dick.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (Niu5G)

386 335 Agreed. You ever see Goering? That fucker didn't miss too many meals.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Bd48Y)
_____________________________________

It was my thyroid.
Posted by: Herman the German at July 25, 2017 12:20 PM (4AVeu)

Star of My Big Fat Fascist Life

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (0mRoj)

387 So Rush just discussed the possibility of an armed coup against Trump. So we got that going for us.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)



LOL...by whom may I ask?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 12:26 PM (5y11N)
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The United Sanctuary Cities and States Coalition ?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (SsblQ)

388 "Abi Wilkinson @AbiWilks
·
Jul 24

Made a Patreon. I'll post exclusive content and hopefully use to travel for reporting, which is hard as a freelancer"

I'll just leave this here.

Posted by: Guy who has had it at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (cOANc)

389 LOL...by whom may I ask?

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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The left still hates guns. Saw a news story on Drudge about a gun club for liberals on Facebook. Had around 200 members. Checked it about a week after it had been sitting there with free Drudge publicity for several days... they had about 15 new members.

Try to not laugh!

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (8b+oT)

390 Abi Wilkinson wants a 100% estate tax for the greater good.

Abi Wilkinson has no money and few prospects of getting any....
Great career choice, buttercup.

Posted by: chuckR at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (qS1uX)

391 383 why not force journalists to work for free? for the public good.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:28 PM (ILitO)



And we could hold all the women in common, and assign some - Abi leaps to mind - to service homeless shitheads who haven't bathed so far this year.

Wow, this dorm room political economy stuff is great!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:29 PM (SRKgf)

392 >>Fuck that. I'll cash out my accounts and burn that shit before I turn it over to welfare slugs.


"Kid, I've just been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer. I'd like to sell you the family home, and all its contents, for $10. And my extensive gun collection was lost in a boating accident..."

Boom, nothing to inherit! Yeah, I know this would be taxed as a gift, etc., but I have no doubt many people would suddenly discover all sorts of inheritance schemes currently used by the wealthy, such as setting up family trusts (IIRC) and other ways to keep the money in the family (aw, the house burned down with all our valuables in it!). It would be a tax code whack-a-mole as people keep moving/protecting money while Congress keeps updating tax code to stop it.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (NOIQH)

393
229 Little Charlie Gard's parents are heading back to court one last time to plead to be allowed to take him home to die.
=======================

The state is his true home

Posted by: Abi Wilkinson, Labour Warriorette at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (ylUqT)

394 If Abi Wilkinson gets her way then the next step will be to prohibit all transfers that take place before death. The time before death that this will apply to will slowly increase from 1 year to 10 - 20 or a lifetime ban on any transfers of wealth to anyone from anyone in order to make sure the State gets their cut.

They will simply follow the model used for Medicaid for the elderly in nursing homes where the look back for any wealth transfers has increased over time.

We used to be a nation where families worked over generations to improve the financial conditions of each generation so that that after 2 - 3 - or 4 generations real wealth is achieved. This has become harder and harder due to government policies, taxes etc. Sad.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (d3wbb)

395 >>why not force journalists to work for free? for the public good.

With no sense of irony, Abi set up a Patreon account yesterday to fund travel for her freelance journalism.

https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/889507695354667010

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:32 PM (NOIQH)

396 I am 100% on Abi's bandwagon. Those greedy widows need to be kicked to the curb while we confiscate their dead husband's houses and all their worldly gooda. We can split the ill gotten gains between the bureaucrats and the disenfranchised.

Posted by: Bite the hand that feeds me at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (Iln9u)

397 so Abi drinks pricey tequila?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (ILitO)

398 Boom, nothing to inherit! Yeah, I know this would be taxed as a gift, etc., but I have no doubt many people would suddenly discover all sorts of inheritance schemes currently used by the wealthy, such as setting up family trusts (IIRC) and other ways to keep the money in the family (aw, the house burned down with all our valuables in it!). It would be a tax code whack-a-mole as people keep moving/protecting money while Congress keeps updating tax code to stop it.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 12:30 PM (NOIQH)



Yep. The problem for the cash grabbers is that people who have some money also usually have some brains, and they will devote those brains to finding ways of getting around the cash grabbers.

Conversely, the cash grabbers schemes would work fine on the cognitively disenfranchised, but ... sadly ... they're broke.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

399 Government could provide us with a system of robotswho could look after all our needs, but it can't happen without YOUR cooperation.

Posted by: Abi Wilkinson at July 25, 2017 12:37 PM (xAvrH)

400 I call for a 100 percent tax on any left over welfare cheese. Make everyone have some skin in the game

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:38 PM (ILitO)

401 oh, new thread.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at July 25, 2017 12:40 PM (ILitO)

402
119
Abi:

There's a reason a 100% tax on inheritance is unpopular. Because it goes against thousands of years of human nature as well as the Commandment of Thou shalt not covet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 11:46 AM (mbhDw)

Sorry, but I need some guidance here. Can I covet stuff that I own and not be violating a Commandment?

Asking for myself.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (e1mEI)

403 I hope Sir Paul McCartney takes her advice, leaves all his billion dollar wealth to the government and leaves his children nothing. I'm sure they will be pleased and relieved.

Posted by: deepred at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (8oULY)

404 378 The Left is openly talking about forcefully killng people to fight Global Warming.

Unpleasant as it may be, the Death card has been placed on the table. It's in the game now.

Western Civ is f***ed.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 12:27 PM (WDCYi)


They have been talking about killing very large numbers to save the environment for decades.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2017 12:41 PM (P/kVC)

405 There will never be enough money to fund the welfare state because its expansion always incentives even more parasites to join in for more gibmedats. Stop stealing good people's money and handing it to the useless and destructive.

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at July 25, 2017 12:46 PM (hxucZ)

406 Late to the thread but love the GorillaPundit, still.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 25, 2017 12:46 PM (xJa6I)

407 I imagine Abi, not as a journalist, but as a prostitute giving hummers to hobos at the train station. For the greater good.

Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2017 12:47 PM (2Mnv1)

408 I don't know if the Uber driver assaulted her or not, but if I run into her, I think I will. She needs a good old fashioned beat down. What a smug face.

Posted by: LA ette, lakeside lurker at July 25, 2017 12:51 PM (AEV0K)

409 Goering was a charming egomaniac-sociopath-psycho. Hanging his corpse means Goering won the death contest just as exhuming Oliver Cromwell's corpse and beheading it means Cromwell won a successful-ruler-contest but lost on the inheritance issue. (ie corpse defilement as a political act to appease the hoi polloi, eg they peed on the corpse of the British commander at King's Mountain and took his silver whistle) Goering charmed (bribed?) one of his jailers to allow him access to a poison pill. The difference between Goering and Bill Clinton is that Goering was a warrior and had (millions?) more people kill by his lieutenants than Clinton has. Clinton hasn't killed anyone personally as far as I know. How many did Clinton have killed in the aspirin factory?

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 12:57 PM (cfHE9)

410 "Can I covet stuff that I own "

If you have it you can not covet it because definition-of-covet.

But you said own. You can own something but not have it. You can covet something you own but do not have. Since you are not your neighbor you are clear of any ten-commandment-violation for coveting anything you own but do not have.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 01:03 PM (cfHE9)

411 "Why don't we fund the welfare state by taking 100% of the earnings from freelance journalists?"

For the same reason a large pizza is better than a musician.

A large pizza can feed a family of four.

Really. A freelance journalist is living off of someone else's earnings. No money there.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 01:08 PM (cfHE9)

412 Britain's boys in blue can't find known terrorists, but they are hell on bloggers...

Posted by: macleod at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (I7blG)

413 Greetings:

If I my expand on your Morning Rant a bit, I would think that good journalism might well require that interviewées be first asked who funds their organization and how well are they compensated.

First up for me would be DAvid Millibang of the International Organization for (Anykind of) Migration.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (evgyj)

414 Re: Inheritance

I wonder if this nitwit has considered that, unable to leave their estate to their children, conservatives might choose instead to leave the money to anti-progressive organizations. For example, the NRA might find good use for a billion or so windfall.

Posted by: GaryS at July 25, 2017 03:31 PM (Rxavl)

415 That abi has the most slapable face I've ever seen. Also, what's to stop everyone from torching the house and cars, drain the bank account have another bon fire then spend your last few years in a minimum security resort?

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (jcw8z)

Mid-Morning Open Thread

waterloo monet.jpg

Waterloo Bridge
Claude Monet

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Who's on the bridge kick?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 09:19 AM (UCap9)

2 Pretty...smoggy!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 09:19 AM (NOIQH)

3 I have a fear of bridges.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 09:19 AM (Enq6K)

4 And now I have an ABBA earworm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 09:21 AM (NOIQH)

5 A bridge too far.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 09:22 AM (vg8iE)

6 It's bridge week! How many Monet bridges are there, anyway?

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 09:22 AM (RD7QR)

7 Also, it looks like there are little trees growing out of the side of the bridge.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (RD7QR)

8 I'm in the minority but Monet is my least favorite impressionist.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (A3edJ)

9
This is Claude's impression of a bridge over the Tiberius River in Baghdad. Those yellow things on the bridge are APCs and the rubber boats on the water are Navy Seals doing a covert river crossing.

At least that is my impress of Claude's impression. But then I've been up all night and might be hallucinating.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (m9X4Y)

10 Waterloo Bridge

Also a bittersweet 1940 movie with Vivien Leigh and Robert Taylor as star-crossed lovers. A definite three-hanky weeper.

http://tinyurl.com/yd87pt2b

http://tinyurl.com/ya4t68jj

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (X6fMO)

11 We have to make it crystal clear to the those RINO fucks and the RNC that if they Torpedo PDT, the Republican party is done, Toast, history.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (5y11N)

12 4 And now I have an ABBA earworm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 09:21 AM (NOIQH)

That's the bridge where people with ABBA earworms jump off of.

Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 09:24 AM (7HtZB)

13 Napoleon didn't see the sniper under the bridge?

Posted by: dantesed at July 25, 2017 09:24 AM (88xKn)

14 There was an assassination attempt against Trump during the campaign.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:25 AM (mpXpK)

15 Goethel's Bridge with Linden, NJ in background.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:25 AM (HiDrR)

16 Identifiable subject matter? Varied color palette? Total shit.

Posted by: Mark Rothko at July 25, 2017 09:26 AM (0mRoj)

17
Looks like that was painted during a-

"Waterloo Sunset"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MqfF0WBsU

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:26 AM (9q7Dl)

18
I'm sure there's some psychological significance to a desire to look at paintings of bridges. Perhaps the open, even beckoning array of large openings, signifying female genitalia. A desire to return to the womb.

* snorts another line of coke *

Posted by: Sigmond Fraud at July 25, 2017 09:26 AM (EgwCt)

19 U boats surface taking early cover in the choking early morning smog.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 09:26 AM (mcI77)

20 No trees. It's not art.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:27 AM (CPk08)

21 I rarely have much meaningful to say about the morning art. Usually it's just "Yep. That's an art." This piece is no exception.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 09:27 AM (KUaJL)

22 Link for above


http://tinyurl.com/yastortc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

23 15 Goethel's Bridge with Linden, NJ in background.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:25 AM (HiDrR)

Just down the road from Elizabeth, the poor saps.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 09:28 AM (RD7QR)

24 Is this a blurry picture or should I put my glasses on?

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 09:28 AM (sf2BM)

25
The boaters are looking at all the water sprite graffiti under the arches.


Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:29 AM (9q7Dl)

26
8 I'm in the minority but Monet is my least favorite impressionist.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:23 AM (A3edJ)


No Monet shots for you, then?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:29 AM (JSqK4)

27 Dreary picture... Dickensian.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:29 AM (zSVEm)

28 Not the Goethels. Not even close.

Approaches to the Tappen Zee maybe, but there is no background like that anywhere near the Tappen Zee.

The Goethels is a suspension bridge.

Wait! There is a NEW Goethels bridge? Holy Smokes, I've been away from the North East a long time now.

Time Flies.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (m9X4Y)

29 Vic sighting! Hooray!

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (MIKMs)

30 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:29 AM (JSqK4)

I knew we would eventually get to porn puns.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (A3edJ)

31 All that smog is really a smokescreen put up by the ingenious British to confuse the formation of Henkels just outside of the frame.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (gbWkA)

32
20 No trees. It's not art.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:27 AM (CPk0


You Bob Ross graduates are insufferable...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (JSqK4)

33 little patches of blue sky trying their damnedest to pierce through the smoke from the furnace stacks...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 09:31 AM (hcyUh)

34 The tower shaped like a dildo in the back. Perfect sniper nest location.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 09:31 AM (mcI77)

35 Waterloo Bridge

Meh. Needs more billy goats.

Posted by: A Troll at July 25, 2017 09:32 AM (p+Wdc)

36 A bridge: that which stretches between hither and yon.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 25, 2017 09:32 AM (JNTt1)

37
I knew we would eventually get to porn puns.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (A3edJ)


The competition hereabouts is pretty stiff, that's for sure.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:32 AM (JSqK4)

38 >>>We have to make it crystal clear to the those RINO fucks and the RNC that if they Torpedo PDT, the Republican party is done, Toast, history.


agreed

Posted by: Max Power at July 25, 2017 09:32 AM (QCc6B)

39 There's a new Tappen Zee bridge too, but I knew that. They were starting construction the last time I was up there twenty years ago.

Did they ever fix the holes in the bridge deck on the Geo Washington Bridge?

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (m9X4Y)

40 Perhaps the open, even beckoning array of large openings, signifying female genitalia.
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Brilliant analysis.

Posted by: H.R. Giger at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (vg8iE)

41 Did we already have a French Impressionist bridge by Gustave Caillebotte? I like Caillebotte.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (2RBkF)

42 Very nice painting, CBD. There's a mansion here in Lake Geneva which was previously owned by a good friend of Monet. Monet gave this friend several of his paintings, which were then left to the Art Institute of Chicago.



Hola! and good morning. I've been gone since July 15 and away from the blog. Can anyone give me a recap? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

43 The discussion of the alliance between Islam and the Left came up again in the last thread, and I thought I'd just add my pet theory to it.

Just about every rational explanation to trying to figure it out fails. Islam will obviously swallow the Left whole. How do they intend to profit from it? What's their angle?

My theory is that they intend to promote the Iranian version of Islam until it becomes the dominant form, which is why they're backing the Iranians, Muslim Brotherhood, "moderate Syrian rebels", and Palestine - all of them have significant Iranian connections, and you don't see that level of enthusiasm for Saudi Arabia (which they openly hate), or more rational nations like Egypt or Jordan.

The Iranian form of Islam is an apocalypse cult writ large, which says that if they do certain things (like nuke Israel), the 12th Mahdi will arrive with the latest revelation, and lead them to world conquest.

If they make Iranian Islam the default version, create the apocalypse, and no 12th Mahdi arrives, they will have over a billion people in a crisis of faith that they can preach their own death cult to (IE, the kind that comes with single-payer healthcare, star chambers, and gulags).

The other variant is that they intend to supply their own 12th Mahdi, and supply their own ideology as the "great revelation". Either way, their madness now seems like a calculated gamble to acquire the manpower to force their globalist ambitions home, in the form of 1.5 billion potential recruits.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (X52ZZ)

44 I like Renoir.

i don't know if I like Van Gogh. it is hard to separate his art from what i know of his madness. if he had been a success in finance and married some pretty rich baroness, and lived out his days in a country villa, would he still remember him?

of course Salieri died in a nuthouse too and these days people only look for his (actually good) compositions after watching Amadeus.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (AsrrK)

45 Not the Goethels. Not even close.
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM

~~~~~

Artistic license.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (HiDrR)

46 You Bob Ross graduates are insufferable...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:30 AM (JSqK4)


They said the same thing about quantum physicists.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (CPk08)

47 NEWS
Footage shows Jordanian soldier gunning down three US Army Green Berets

http://nypost.com/2017/07/25/jordanian-soldier-guns-down-three-us-army-green-berets/

US State Department to blame Israel?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:34 AM (5y11N)

48 The painting pretty much reflects my mood of, and opinion of, the current Congress.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:34 AM (zSVEm)

49 grammie winger
-----------------

Nothing has changed.
The blog is still just the way you remember it.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (m9X4Y)

50 Welcome home, grammie! Hope you had a great time. (Mexico, right?)

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (HiDrR)

51 this monet dude was really into phallus symbols. typical.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (KP5rU)

52 48 The painting pretty much reflects my mood of, and opinion of, the current Congress.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:34 AM (zSVEm)

"Hey, is that bridge up for sale?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (hcyUh)

53 The other variant is that they intend to supply their own 12th Mahdi
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Uh, let me be clear, uh, I'm uh available.

Posted by: Barry Obama at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (vg8iE)

54 I was in England last year at this time; I walked across Waterloo Bridge just after dark. The views of the city from that bridge are truly gorgeous - Westminster on one side of the Thames, and the London Eye on the other. Wish I could upload my photo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (V2Yro)

55 "the Iranians, Muslim Brotherhood, "moderate Syrian rebels", and Palestine"

the Mo Bros and Syrian rebels are hardcore Sunni, not aligned with Iran as a whole. although Hamas might be becoming an exception to that now they don't have Egypt or ISIS.

the Iranians support Assad.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (AsrrK)

56 If the guy was going to be a painter he should have gotten his prescription for his glasses checked more often.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (cAnNx)

57 Hola! and good morning. I've been gone since July 15 and away from the blog. Can anyone give me a recap? Thanks in advance.
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

The painting... stare at the painting... it says a lot.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (zSVEm)

58 Nothing has changed.
The blog is still just the way you remember it.
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM
~~~~~

Well, there were some banninations...

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (HiDrR)

59 Hola! and good morning. I've been gone since July 15 and away from the blog. Can anyone give me a recap? Thanks in advance.
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (lwiT4)


Hi grammie! Hope you had a great time!

There's been gloom, despair, agony, deep dark depression, excessive misery, a rather vicious episode between commenters, banning, unbanning, and our usual routine of deep political insight and dick jokes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (0mRoj)

60 grammie, glad you are back and had fun and didn't get kidnapped by a cartel.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:37 AM (AsrrK)

61 he painting... stare at the painting... it says a lot.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (zSVEm)


Take some shrooms first and the painting does a lot more than talk.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:37 AM (CPk08)

62 "We have to make it crystal clear to the those RINO fucks and the RNC that if they Torpedo PDT, the Republican party is done, Toast, history. "

And with them, America,


Kinda why I think PDT should be organizing a second party.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 09:37 AM (Mcvvl)

63 deep political insight and dick jokes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (0mRoj)

Candidate for new masthead.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (hcyUh)

64 welcome home grammie. hope you had a great vacation.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (KP5rU)

65 Hola! and good morning. I've been gone since July 15 and away from the blog. Can anyone give me a recap? Thanks in advance.


Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (lwiT4)


A lot of the Horde are hurting and need prayers.

The GOPe continues to plumb new depths in nickelfuckery.

Gorillapundit is your only man.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (X6fMO)

66 Gephyrophobia....fear of bridges.


I have a fear of heights too. A high bridge? Fergettaboutit. I'm a mess.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (Enq6K)

67
Is it a big bridge? Roomy?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (JSqK4)

68 Well, there were some banninations...




Ya, that's what I meant.
Nothing's changed.
Tempers lost, and found.
Personal's affected and disaffected.
It's the internet, man.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (m9X4Y)

69 Welcome home, grammie! Hope you had a great time. (Mexico, right?)

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (HiDrR)
==========================

Yep. Riviera Maya. I'm going to learn Spanish so I can go back in January and ask the waiter "Can you move my chair a little closer to the beach? And bring me a Bahama Mama while you're at it?"

There's got to be a YouTube video.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:38 AM (lwiT4)

70 Who got banned?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:39 AM (mpXpK)

71 66; me too. hate driving them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:39 AM (KP5rU)

72 deep political insight and dick jokes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (0mRoj)


---

don't tease the dicks

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:40 AM (PNcou)

73 Fog, mist and smoke were a favorite trope of Manet's. He depicted it again and again. He liked how they affected lighting and color.

Posted by: Kris at July 25, 2017 09:40 AM (nwqNw)

74
70 Who got banned?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:39 AM (mpXpK)


L, Elle

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:40 AM (JSqK4)

75 Is that the Bridge to far?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:40 AM (5y11N)

76
Pushing away from the gate, buh-bye!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (JSqK4)

77 What did she do?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (mpXpK)

78 70 Who got banned?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:39 AM (mpXpK)

L, Elle
========

Oh, shit. And after all that time we spent helping to assure her of her massage choices.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (vg8iE)

79 Vic, SMFH and L,Elle got banned until the con's realised that SMFH was just reacting to Elle' s crazy.

I still don't know what the hell happened to her...

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (AsrrK)

80 That's the Bridge of Sighs.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (UCap9)

81 "My theory is that they intend to promote the Iranian version of Islam until it becomes the dominant form, which is why they're backing the Iranians, Muslim Brotherhood, "moderate Syrian rebels", and Palestine - all of them have significant Iranian connections, and you don't see that level of enthusiasm for Saudi Arabia (which they openly hate), or more rational nations like Egypt or Jordan. "

Yes, they are - but what they don't grasp is that the Sunni-Shiite conflict has been going on for at least 1200 years, and is actually getting hotter now than it has been for a very long time.

The most likely effect of emboldening the Iranians will be the final, full kick-off of a modern version of the 30 years war, with the likely result that 30% - 50% of the Islamic population in the middle east will die while that war is waged.

If Iran does get nuclear missiles, the first city hit won't be Jerusalem - it will be Riyadh, and maybe even Mecca.

The Persians have only hated the US for about 70 years now. They've hated the Jews for about 1400 years.

They've hated the Arabs for 3,000 years and counting. That's why "one" version of Islam can never be dominant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (V2Yro)

82 A lot of the Horde are hurting and need prayers.

===================


I'm sorry to hear that.



Well, there were some banninations...

========================


I'm sorry to hear that too.








Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (lwiT4)

83 *cobs

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (AsrrK)

84 Hola! and good morning. I've been gone since July 15 and away from the blog. Can anyone give me a recap? Thanks in advance.

----

Hilary is in Jail
Obamacare has been repealed
Kagan/Sotomayor/Ginsburg all died in a bizarre lesbian cooking accident
and the blog now has ampersands!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (PNcou)

85 Did they ever fix the holes in the bridge deck on the Geo Washington Bridge?
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (m9X4Y)
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I went through there yesterday. It ain't pretty.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (UoSKV)

86 Cato@43:

Interesting thoughts, plausible even. Just the kind of multidimensional chess crapola that Our Betters enjoy so much. Food for thought, thanks.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (Mcvvl)

87 L, Elle got banned? Oh no.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (lwiT4)

88 79; she seemed to really go off the rails.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (KP5rU)

89 Oh, and welcome back, grammie !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (Mcvvl)

90 70 Who got banned?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:39 AM (mpXpK)

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testing....

NOT ME

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (PNcou)

91 Did they ever fix the holes in the bridge deck on the Geo Washington Bridge?
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (m9X4Y)
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I went through there yesterday. It ain't pretty.
========

How high of a drop is that?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (vg8iE)

92 I think this is one of Monet's draft-dodger period paintings. He skipped out during the Franco-Prussian war and then had to paint smog in England because he couldn't afford a garden.

Posted by: Lester at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (LfJIn)

93 77
What did she do?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (mpXpK)

A boatload of cocaine.

Posted by: Monkfish at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (7ciu+)

94 "80 That's the Bridge of Sighs."

Man, I loved that Album. (even if at first I thought it was called "Bridge of Size")

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (V2Yro)

95 Hilary is in Jail

Obamacare has been repealed

Kagan/Sotomayor/Ginsburg all died in a bizarre lesbian cooking accident

and the blog now has ampersands!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (PNcou)
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Wonderful! I ought to go away more often!

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (lwiT4)

96 KoolAid man: "OH YEAH!!!!!"

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (UCap9)

97 As far as the banning... sometimes people have a bad day, or even a bumpy stretch, and words and thoughts come out... poorly.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (zSVEm)

98 Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:33 AM (AsrrK)

Nude in Sunlight is my favorite Renoir.

The critics at the time said it looked like a corpse that's started to turn.

Critics are useless.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (A3edJ)

99 Or, as the 'Home Boy Shopping Channel' would say: "Mo'Monet!Mo'Monet!Mo'Monet!" ...

Posted by: Dr_No at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (imDUY)

100 55 "the Iranians, Muslim Brotherhood, "moderate Syrian rebels", and Palestine"

the Mo Bros and Syrian rebels are hardcore Sunni, not aligned with Iran as a whole. although Hamas might be becoming an exception to that now they don't have Egypt or ISIS.

the Iranians support Assad.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:36 AM (AsrrK)

I misspoke about the Muslim Brotherhood. Sorry, it's rather late in my day.

The Muslim Brotherhood's use to them is in destabilizing the actually more moderate Islamic nations (such as Egypt), which weakens them with civil war and sectarian squabbling while Iran (their chosen overlord) continues furthering its imperial ambitions.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (X52ZZ)

101 77 What did she do?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (mpXpK)

Said some things to SMFH that were, in my view, vicious and personal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (0mRoj)

102 L, Elle got banned? Oh no.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (lwiT4)

Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh no

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (5y11N)

103 I like this picture. But then again, I tend to like most Monets.

Welcome home, grammie! I think we had a sighting or two of you while you were gone, no?

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (UoSKV)

104 test

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (mpXpK)

105 Monet is the root of all evil.

Posted by: Édouard Manet at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (xAvrH)

106 Critics are useless.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (A3edJ)


Absolutely. Art has rules. Don't need a critic to interpret them.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (CPk08)

107 Hey CBD,

If it's Bridge Week, check out some of the Japanese prints for the Kintai Bridge near Iwakuni.

It's one of my faves.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (9q7Dl)

108 Tom servo "They've hated the Jews for about 1400 years."

maybe 1600. the last years of the Sasanians weren't all great for the Jews of Iraq. Yazdegerd II and Peroz being some standouts for this. (they didn't like Christians either.)

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (AsrrK)

109 87 L, Elle got banned? Oh no.



Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (lwiT4)



When the drama continues, and you're the only one still around, you're not some innocent victim, and when the cobs tell you on 2 separate threads to drop it, listen.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (cAnNx)

110 >>I'm sure there's some psychological significance to a desire to look at paintings of bridges...


Also kinda fun to see 'em fall!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWCipKGCZI

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (NOIQH)

111 101
77 What did she do?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:41 AM (mpXpK)



Said some things to SMFH that were, in my view, vicious and personal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:44 AM (0mRoj)

Ace has issued many warnings on that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

112 >>>Man, I loved that Album. (even if at first I thought it was called "Bridge of Size")

RT really grew on me, I don't remember how I heard about him, but nice mellow bluesy sound.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (UCap9)

113 The discussion of the alliance between Islam and the Left came up again in the last thread, and I thought I'd just add my pet theory to it.

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Is a hatred of western civ and Christianity and a luv of anal enough to build an alliance on?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (PNcou)

114 How high of a drop is that?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (vg8iE)
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Pretty far. I still haven't hit the bottom of the Hudson yet.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (UoSKV)

115 "105 Monet is the root of all evil."

No, the Love of Monet is the root of all evil.

Posted by: Camille D. at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (V2Yro)

116 I always liked taking the upper deck on the George Washington Bridge so I could admire the NYC skyline, until I noticed the temporary fixes to the bridge deck.

I never liked the lower level.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (m9X4Y)

117 Is a hatred of western civ and Christianity and a luv of anal enough to build an alliance on?
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Oh, my yes.

Posted by: Barry, Loving Anal at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (vg8iE)

118 95 Hilary is in Jail

Obamacare has been repealed

Kagan/Sotomayor/Ginsburg all died in a bizarre lesbian cooking accident

and the blog now has ampersands!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (PNcou)
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Wonderful! I ought to go away more often!
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:43 AM (lwiT4)

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and i ate the brown acid

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (PNcou)

119 Ace has issued many warnings on that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

She then attempted to carry the drama over into the next day, and ignored multiple warnings to let it go.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (0mRoj)

120
I'm not particularly afraid of bridges, even the ones that go way, way up. But the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel? I get white knuckles just thinking about it. Only about thirty feet off the water. No shoulder. Cross winds. Opposing trucks as they go by at high speed send car shuddering around.

Now imagine a boat trailer behind the vehicle.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (EgwCt)

121 51 this monet dude was really into phallus symbols. typical.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:35 AM (KP5rU)

I know you're just kidding, so this isn't at you. Your comment brought up a huge pet peeve of mine in the art world--the stupid and ignorant association of anything tall, thin and columnar with the penis. God, it's annoying. I saw it everywhere when I taught art history, from the Egyptian obelisk, the Column of Trajan, to modern skyscrapers. Thank you, Freud. Pfft.

Posted by: Kris at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (nwqNw)

122 109 87 L, Elle got banned? Oh no.



Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (lwiT4)



When the drama continues, and you're the only one still around, you're not some innocent victim, and when the cobs tell you on 2 separate threads to drop it, listen.
Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (cAnNx)


Yeah... it all became... relentless.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (zSVEm)

123 I always liked taking the upper deck on the George Washington Bridge so I could admire the NYC skyline, until I noticed the temporary fixes to the bridge deck.


Duct tape ?

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (i+qsp)

124 When the drama continues, and you're the only one still around, you're not some innocent victim, and when the cobs tell you on 2 separate threads to drop it, listen.


Hey! Those are the lyrics to an old George Michael tune.

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 09:48 AM (7n4KQ)

125 If it's Bridge Week, check out some of the Japanese prints for the Kintai Bridge near Iwakuni.

It's one of my faves.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (9q7Dl)
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I'm not sure CBD should be encouraging viewer submissions for Bridge Week. We might get something from NGU's Greatest Hits collection.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:48 AM (UoSKV)

126 L, Elle got banned for shit on on ONT that did not stay on the ONT. CBD told her point blank to knock it off and she didn't. I'm not clear what led to it, but even I'm smart to know that when you're told to leave it be, you leave it be.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (AM1GF)

127 Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (CPk0

They eliminated the tree rule in 1634.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (A3edJ)

128 It wasn't one night. That crazy was months long.

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (E4p3I)

129 I always liked taking the upper deck on the George Washington Bridge so I could admire the NYC skyline, until I noticed the temporary fixes to the bridge deck.


Duct tape ?
Posted by: JT at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (i+qsp)

Not in the Budget

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (5y11N)

130 I'm not particularly afraid of bridges, even the ones that go way, way up. But the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel? I get white knuckles just thinking about it. Only about thirty feet off the water. No shoulder. Cross winds. Opposing trucks as they go by at high speed send car shuddering around.

Now imagine a boat trailer behind the vehicle.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 09:47 AM (EgwCt)

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it was even worse when it was only one lane each direction. *** shudders ***

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (PNcou)

131
115 "105 Monet is the root of all evil."

No, the Love of Monet is the root of all evil.

Posted by: Camille D. at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (V2Yro)



But girls are actually evil.

It's been mathematically proven.


https://tinyurl.com/ouvd3hu

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (cAnNx)

132 Interesting thoughts, plausible even. Just the kind of multidimensional chess crapola that Our Betters enjoy so much. Food for thought, thanks.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 25, 2017 09:42 AM (Mcvvl)

Exactly, and moreso than any other explanation for their unholy alliance that I've seen, it has the missing piece - a profit motive that moves them closer to absolute power.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (X52ZZ)

133 l,elle really was combative and nasty. just wouldn't let it go. something sent her over the edge. it was uncalled for.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (KP5rU)

134
6 It's bridge week! How many Monet bridges are there, anyway?

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at July 25, 2017 09:22 AM (RD7QR)








No, it's Shark Week this week.

And you'll be hearing from our lawyers.

Posted by: The Discovery Channel at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (veoSD)

135 Ace has issued many warnings on that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

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But she persisted!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (PNcou)

136 Not in the Budget

LOL

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (i+qsp)

137 Monet for nothin'

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (7n4KQ)

138 I always liked taking the upper deck on the George Washington Bridge so I could admire the NYC skyline, until I noticed the temporary fixes to the bridge deck.

I never liked the lower level.
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:46 AM (m9X4Y)
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You could actually take your eyes off the road to look at the skyline? Wow. I hold on like grim death to the steering wheel while keeping my eyes on all the loons around me and trying to avoid being run over by trucks. One tried to take me out yesterday, in fact, but I prevailed.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (UoSKV)

139 I'm not sure CBD should be encouraging viewer submissions for Bridge Week. We might get something from NGU's Greatest Hits collection.

Posted by: bluebell
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"And just look at the overbite on this one!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 09:51 AM (sQ1li)

140 I'm not particularly afraid of bridges, even the ones that go way, way up. But the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel? I get white knuckles just thinking about it.
_____________________

Yeah, I hate that one too. Just seeing it coming up through the windshield gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2017 09:51 AM (IBcGJ)

141 No, it's Shark Week this week.

And you'll be hearing from our lawyers.
Posted by: The Discovery Channel at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM (veoSD)

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This week on Shark Week! Shark week jumps the Shark!!!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:51 AM (PNcou)

142 They eliminated the tree rule in 1634.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 09:49 AM (A3edJ)


We who are faithful will never submit.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (CPk08)

143 lol "but she persisted"

ouch.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (AsrrK)

144 We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (zSVEm)

145 There are some kool bridges in Hong Kong, and the Tampa Bay Bridge is quite photogenic.

Europe has some kool modern bridges but don't ask me to name them.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (m9X4Y)

146 The bridge at Sault Ste. Marie is long and scary. It connects the UP to Ontario. Yoopers and Canucks. Also scary.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (lwiT4)

147 I did the bridge run in charleston. It was not a fun experience.

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 09:53 AM (E4p3I)

148
Welcome sulphur dioxide,
Hello carbon monoxide
The air, the air is everywhere
Breathe deep, while you sleep, breathe deep

Posted by: Hair at July 25, 2017 09:53 AM (OdK9v)

149 Beautiful!

Posted by: sinalco at July 25, 2017 09:54 AM (yODqO)

150 146; grammie, hate that bridge. the open deck, the height, never again.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:54 AM (KP5rU)

151 >>Now imagine a boat trailer behind the vehicle.

Got that t-shirt. A few of them actually.

I don't mind the Chesapeake but I don't like the tunnel in Baltimore harbor. Thing looks like it was built pre-war of southern aggression and it is way too narrow.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 09:54 AM (/tuJf)

152 bluebell at July 25, 2017 09:50 AM
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Well, I was in a BIG truck, so ya, I could sight see because the only way to drive in NYC in a big truck is ignore the little people. I'm going where I'm going and all y'all just better stay out of my way.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:55 AM (m9X4Y)

153 We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.
Posted by: kraken



The Causeway in Galveston, Tx when it's under a foot of snow & ice.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 09:55 AM (Bd48Y)

154 147; just did it in may. twice. first time sucked. second time, not so bad. they look really intimidating though.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 09:56 AM (KP5rU)

155 There are some kool bridges in Hong Kong, and the Tampa Bay Bridge is quite photogenic.

The Tampa Bridge is the one I was thinking about that is so freaking tall. Drove over it a couple times. Could do it twice a day forever without an ounce of fear. Magnificent view at top.

But the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel? Holy shit that's nasty. The tunnels - I don't think they're even standard 10 foot lane width. They seem to be about six foot wide.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 09:56 AM (EgwCt)

156 144 We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.

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i think i remember a bridge in Savannah Georgia that seemed ridiculously high from my childhood

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 09:57 AM (PNcou)

157 State Department Lawyers Removing References To ISIS Genocide Against Christians, Other Religious Minorities



Trump really needs to purge the State Department which is a hotbed of Obama holdovers.

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 09:58 AM (5y11N)

158 There's a bridge over the Mississippi on Rte. 54 at Louisiana Missouri.... 2 lanes... Narrow.. frequented by senis and implement trucks.
On a windy, rainy day... awesome.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:58 AM (zSVEm)

159 >>>I'm not particularly afraid of bridges, even the ones that go way, way
up. But the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel? I get white knuckles just
thinking about it. Only about thirty feet off the water. No shoulder.
Cross winds. Opposing trucks as they go by at high speed send car
shuddering around.



Now imagine a boat trailer behind the vehicle.
.
.
.There used to be people you could hire to drive your vehicle across that back in the day. Not sure if they still have them there.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 09:58 AM (0pcwX)

160 I'm in the minority but Monet is my least favorite impressionist.

Posted by: Jack Sock
He's no Rich Little

Posted by: Bruce at July 25, 2017 09:58 AM (8ikIW)

161 The drive over Tampa Bay is gorgeous.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 09:59 AM (0mRoj)

162 Ah, yes, the Baltimore tunnel. Eight foot lanes, as I remember it and 102 inch wide bodies were prohibited, I think. But so many went through anyway they gave up on it. Or they repainted the lanes.

First time through that tunnel, I was wider than the traffic lane. That was fun.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 09:59 AM (m9X4Y)

163 Let's get our priorities right ...

Jimmy Choo has a new owner.

Michael Kors said on Tuesday it has agreed to purchase the luxury shoemaker for approximately $1.2 billion, adding a coveted global brand to the U.S. retailer's stable as its own handbag and accessories sales suffer.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 25, 2017 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

164 Mackinac Bridge. Which, of course, has a steel grate deck. Crossing on a motorcycle, you can see straight down to the water, 200 feet below. Five miles long.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (OdK9v)

165 >>43 The discussion of the alliance between Islam and the Left came up again in the last thread, and I thought I'd just add my pet theory to it.

Just about every rational explanation to trying to figure it out fails. Islam will obviously swallow the Left whole. How do they intend to profit from it? What's their angle?

I have not read the other threads this morning. My view is that the left/demonazis, like the iranian muzzies, are of the belief that the current way things are can not continue. In order to form their version of utopia the old/current way must be completely destroyed in order to be remade "correctly." Both understand that half or more of the current population must die. Because of these things, they are natural allies for the short run.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (JNTt1)

166 There used to be people you could hire to drive your vehicle across that back in the day. Not sure if they still have them there.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 09:58 AM (0pcwX)
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I'm not sure about the CB Bridge Tunnel, which is the VA Beach one, but they do have people that you can hire to drive across the CB Bridge on Route 50 in Maryland. A lot of people have trouble with that one too.





Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (UoSKV)

167 Jimmy Choo - he's a comedian, right?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (UCap9)

168 Bush's Baked Beans recalled over defective cans

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycqozmcd

hotair most impacted

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (mcI77)

169 Until I cleaned London's air this is the view people had at mid-day

Posted by: Al al-Gore, the third chakra devotee at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (ylUqT)

170 Every now and then a 'most dangerous roads and bridges' article comes across my FB news feed. I don't know why but this one is always included and it scares me just looking at it:


The one on the left:


http://tinyurl.com/ycrva8x7

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)

171 146 The bridge at Sault Ste. Marie is long and scary. It connects the UP to Ontario. Yoopers and Canucks. Also scary.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (lwiT4)


Do you mean the Mackinaw Bridge connecting the upper and lower peninsulas of Michigan?

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Zs4uk)

172 I crossed the George Washington Bridge back in the early 70s. I missed my turn to get on the Jersey turnpike and wound up crossing over into long island. Had to cross back on the GW bridge.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)

173 Crossing on a motorcycle, you can see straight down to the water, 200 feet below. Five miles long.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (OdK9v)
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Nope nope nope nope nopity nope nope nope.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (UoSKV)

174 >>First time through that tunnel, I was wider than the traffic lane. That was fun.

Tons of fun when you are towing a boat with a t-top. Zero room for error.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (/tuJf)

175 The Calcasieu I-10 Bridge in Lake Charles , LA.

It was built in 1952. One of the least safe bridges in the USA. I take the 210 bypass bridge even if it adds 20 minutes to the trip.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (A3edJ)

176 156; that's the hwy 17 bridge. we stayed in a hotel very close to it. from the sixth floor, you still looked up to see it. didn't cross it. i know my limitations.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (KP5rU)

177 144 We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 09:52 AM (zSVEm)

I4 in Central Florida. The words "congested clusterfuck" do not do it justice.

Have to drive all the way through Orlando to get to something on the other side? It's always under construction, and there's only one through-lane, everything else is always diving off in one direction or another to the tourist traps or shopping districts. Which lane is the through lane isn't even consistent from exit to exit, so prepare for lots of lane changes in a tightly packed highway environment full of the world's worst drivers.

How bad? Most of the drivers are probably "medicated" in some way shape or form, legally, by shady "pain management" doctors, with club drugs, pot, or just plain booze. The rest are just assholes who will happily kill you to get where they're going .2 seconds faster. There's also high odds that, in addition to all of the above, they're international tourists who are still following the laws of their native countries rather than American traffic laws.

So, you're finally through Orlando? Watch out for the superfog (the unholy offspring of smoke and fog) that's a frequent occurrence thanks to all of the damned swamp fires, or the possibility that a sinkhole might suddenly swallow a portion of the road.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (X52ZZ)

178 Do you mean the Mackinaw Bridge connecting the upper and lower peninsulas of Michigan?

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Zs4uk)
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How do I know? All those Yoopers look alike to me/.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (lwiT4)

179 The one on the left:


http://tinyurl.com/ycrva8x7
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)
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Oh good grief. It looks like the road is folded. Like a slice of raw bacon.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (UoSKV)

180 You say Michael Kors got a sniffle to acquire a shoe manufacturer?

Who?

Ah, Choo.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (ctuyM)

181 Looks like that was painted during a-

"Waterloo Sunset"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MqfF0WBsU

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:26 AM (9q7Dl)


One of my favorite Kinks songs:

Terry meets Julie, Waterloo Station
Every Friday night
But I am so lazy, don't want to wander
I stay at home at night
But I don't feel afraid
As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset
I am in paradise

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (493sH)

182 Astoria-Megler bridge towing a 32ft 5th wheel with a dually. Horrifying.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (mcI77)

183 168 Bush's Baked Beans recalled over defective cans

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycqozmcd

hotair most impacted

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 10:00 AM (mcI77)

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Stay Away From the Cans!

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 25, 2017 10:04 AM (PNcou)

184 How do I know? All those Yoopers look alike to me/.
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (lwiT4)


Here's a video of the drive crossing the bridge:

https://tinyurl.com/y7kbhufr

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2017 10:04 AM (Zs4uk)

185
That crazy was months long.

Sounds like a good song title.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 10:04 AM (IqV8l)

186 I don't like this new hash, by the way. It looks vaguely Soviet.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:05 AM (UoSKV)

187 Stay Away From the Cans!
Posted by: Navin R Johnson



That's what she said!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:05 AM (Bd48Y)

188 164; hammer, no way i would cross that on a motorcycle. never. a few years ago, a girl was blown off that bridge in her car. i hate that thing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 10:05 AM (KP5rU)

189 Here's a video of the drive crossing the bridge:



https://tinyurl.com/y7kbhufr



Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2017 10:04 AM (Zs4uk)
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This is why you take the ferry.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:06 AM (lwiT4)

190 Do you mean the Mackinaw Bridge connecting the upper and lower peninsulas of Michigan?



Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Zs4uk)
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How do I know? All those Yoopers look alike to me/.


Posted by: grammie winger

Sault St Marie International Bridge

Posted by: Bruce at July 25, 2017 10:06 AM (8ikIW)

191 I think I have a new hash. It makes me look like a twit. Oh well. The last one made me look like a fart.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:07 AM (lwiT4)

192 When the drama continues, and you're the only one still around, you're not some innocent victim, and when the cobs tell you on 2 separate threads to drop it, listen.
Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (cAnNx)


You all should listen to buzzion - he gets his info straight from the spirit world.

How's babe Ruth these days?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 10:07 AM (hLRSq)

193
Nope nope nope nope nopity nope nope nope.

Posted by: bluebell
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It's five miles of, "Don't look down, don't look down..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:07 AM (OdK9v)

194 How can you tell where people are from? Ask them to say Mackinac or Sault St. Marie.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:08 AM (lwiT4)

195 If we're gonna do bridges, do some Roebling ones, like the Brooklyn.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 25, 2017 10:08 AM (U6f54)

196 193: fun when it's raining with a lake breeze blowing across it. that oil coated steel gets slick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (KP5rU)

197 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:02 AM (X52ZZ)

Yeah, I've never got the " fun theory" of Florida.. been there quite a bit, never have found it.
Summer... wretchedly hot, full of k-12s and their stressed handlers.
Winter.... bursting at the seam with Sociopathic Snowbirds, all determined to have Fun, Fun, Fun!!!... even if they have to walk over carnage to get it.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (zSVEm)

198 There's been gloom, despair, agony, deep dark depression, excessive misery"

Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

/BR549

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (MINbv)

199 >>>>Bush's Baked Beans recalled over defective cans



http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycqozmcd



hotair most impacted
.
.
.I literally just bought a can of those beans 30 minutes ago at Walmart.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (0pcwX)

200 I have pictures I took while driving across the Big Mac.
I don't have pictures of driving across the Golden Gate. Didn't have a camera at the time, and it was after the collapse of the 880 and the local city streets in SF were a bitch.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (m9X4Y)

201 I went across the Mackinac bridge a few years back. The right lane on both sides were being worked on with large equipment sitting in the lanes or plastic sheets up to protect something. I could not see anything other then the cars ahead.

Posted by: Bruce at July 25, 2017 10:10 AM (8ikIW)

202 It's five miles of, "Don't look down, don't look down..."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:07 AM (OdK9v)
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It would be like trying not to look at a train wreck for me.

Of course, I can't even ride a motorcycle. My brother tried to teach me once. I kept falling over sideways (going very slowly). After he stopped laughing, he said he thought I should just hang it up. So I did.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:10 AM (UoSKV)

203 "I will lay me down like a ......................"

Posted by: DaveD at July 25, 2017 10:11 AM (P5fqQ)

204 Time for a quick video of the Galloping Gertie collapse.

http://tinyurl.com/ofbt67q

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:11 AM (OdK9v)

205
Oh good grief. It looks like the road is folded. Like a slice of raw bacon.





Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:03 AM (UoSKV)

Right? If I was told I had to take that 'road', I'd just stay right where I was.
T'aint no way, no how.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:12 AM (Enq6K)

206 This is why you take the ferry.


Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:06 AM (lwiT4)


There is no direct ferry route across the Straits of Mackinac. That was a requirement for the state to get the bonding to build the bridge.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 10:12 AM (hLRSq)

207 Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:09 AM (zSVEm)

Having been born in Florida and having lived there for almost 90% of my life, my opinion of the state can be summed up in one sentence:

Once a swamp, always a swamp.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:12 AM (X52ZZ)

208 Nice enough but won't sell Saturday Evening Posts.

Posted by: Normandy Rockwell at July 25, 2017 10:12 AM (XffXq)

209 The one on the left:

http://tinyurl.com/ycrva8x7
Posted by: Tami

Tami, that is not real. The aerial photos are draped over a digital terrain model (which probably exaggerated 3x), and ditorted. Easy to do in Google Earth.

Posted by: Pnut at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (iynDC)

210
The Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel has some sort of rest stop about halfway across. Now the entire bridge/tunnel system is like 20 plus miles long and it's probably a little longer than half an hour to cross. It seems like every-single-solitary car stops at the rest stop.

It's *that* freaking exhausting.

But an incredible view of Chesapeake Bay. But I'd rather be in a boat, on the water than up on that bridge.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (EgwCt)

211 194 How can you tell where people are from? Ask them to say Mackinac or Sault St. Marie.


Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:08 AM (lwiT4)



Nah. I'm not from Michigan and I know that you pronounce those weird.

Now when you ask someone how you say Worcester. That is how you know where they are from.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (cAnNx)

212 It's one of my faves.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 09:45 AM (9q7Dl)

I am not a fan of Japanese art...

It's formulaic. I simply don't see any originality in it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (wYseH)

213 I literally just bought a can of those beans 30 minutes ago at Walmart.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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Chow down! You may have won the Liability Lottery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (OdK9v)

214 Time for a quick video of the Galloping Gertie collapse. "

The one with the jacka** who left his dog to die?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:14 AM (MINbv)

215 the bridge over the royal gorge in co will make you piss yourself. when i crossed it, the deck was wood. long time ago.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 25, 2017 10:14 AM (KP5rU)

216 Even ancient Saturday nights were a little crazy. Not saying it was aliens, but...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycm7ufer

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 10:14 AM (ylUqT)

217 202 It would be like trying not to look at a train wreck for me.



Of course, I can't even ride a motorcycle. My brother tried to
teach me once. I kept falling over sideways (going very slowly). After
he stopped laughing, he said he thought I should just hang it up. So I
did.





Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:10 AM (UoSKV)

You should try driving a bike across one of those steel grated bridges. I used to have to cross one of those on my bike to get back and forth to work in Alameda, CA

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 10:14 AM (mpXpK)

218 There is no direct ferry route across the Straits of
Mackinac. That was a requirement for the state to get the bonding to
build the bridge.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 10:12 AM (hLRSq)
======================

I may go back to drunk-blogging.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:14 AM (lwiT4)

219 I am hesitant to generalize about entire states, but on careful consideration it must be admitted that Florida is a shithole.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at July 25, 2017 10:15 AM (CPk08)

220 Chow down! You may have won the Liability Lottery.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (OdK9v)

I know, right?? After all, a little case of botulism, not too much to endure for a Big Payday!!!

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:15 AM (zSVEm)

221 Nah. I'm not from Michigan and I know that you pronounce those weird.

Now when you ask someone how you say Worcester. That is how you know where they are from.
Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (cAnNx)
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Pfffft. I can say the Michigan ones, and that one, and I'm not from either place.

Say Peabody.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (UoSKV)

222 bluebell you were just around the corner from the longest wooden bridge in the US this past weekend.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (/tuJf)

223
Residency tests:
'Leicester', in western NC.
'Dahlonega' in GA

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (OdK9v)

224 I am not a fan of Japanese art...

It's formulaic. I simply don't see any originality in it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (wYseH)


They do portray the black pine prettily.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (CPk08)

225 >>Yeah, I've never got the " fun theory" of Florida.. been there quite a bit, never have found it.

There are quieter parts, away from the touristy sections. Had family who lived in Pass-a-Grill and it was glorious, and more family in Vero Beach (land of golf course-based gated communities) that was also nice.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (NOIQH)

226 bluebell you were just around the corner from the longest wooden bridge in the US this past weekend.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (/tuJf)
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In Deluxbury?

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:17 AM (UoSKV)

227 Here in Jacksonville, when you cross the Buckman Bridge you say a quite few Hail Marys. Cars are going at 80-85 mph. Scary.

Posted by: dantesed at July 25, 2017 10:17 AM (88xKn)

228 My favorite is the Tacoma Narrows bridge.

Posted by: Corona at July 25, 2017 10:17 AM (PsMRi)

229 We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.

Not scary, but cute - the Wiggly Bridge in York, ME:

http://tinyurl.com/ycbegxzo

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2017 10:17 AM (X6fMO)

230 Captiva is nice in FL

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM (E4p3I)

231 Residency tests:
'Leicester', in western NC.
'Dahlonega' in GA
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Mexia, Texas
Bexar County, Tx

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM (Bd48Y)

232 >>In Deluxbury?

Yep. Used to be the older too but they rebuilt it a few years ago and so technically it lost that title.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM (/tuJf)

233 Is anyone here old enough to remember the Bon Vivant vichyssoise incident?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM (OdK9v)

234 It's interesting a discussion has started about Japanese prints, since the Impressionists count Japanese prints as one of their major influences.

Posted by: Kris at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (nwqNw)

235 OT:

Do people know when you un-follow them on Twitter?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (HiDrR)

236 In Deluxbury?





Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:17 AM


Hah! Haven't heard that one in a while. Were you up on the lovely south shore?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (p+Wdc)

237 >>Not scary, but cute - the Wiggly Bridge in York, ME:


Also nice, Bridge of Flowers in Shelburne Falls, MA:
http://www.bridgeofflowersmass.org/

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (NOIQH)

238 The Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel has some sort of rest stop ...

We crossed that beast on a foggy night. I was waiting for the bow of a off course container ship to come crunching through it in front of us. Terrifying.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (mcI77)

239 Feel the love.

http://tinyurl.com/y8kalaag

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (d3wbb)

240 I walked out on something called " the Eagle Bridge" at the Grand Canyon.. it was ... interesting. Glass. Missus kraken jus tood there, WELL back, her tentacles firmly wrapped around a sign post. Her eyes were ... Big.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (zSVEm)

241 Mexia, Texas
Bexar County, Tx"

Kuykendahl.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (MINbv)

242 Is anyone here old enough to remember the Bon Vivant vichyssoise incident?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM
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Was that the botulism thing?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (HiDrR)

243 My favorite is the Tacoma Narrows bridge.
Posted by: Coron
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Vid at 204

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (OdK9v)

244 I am not a fan of Japanese art...

It's formulaic. I simply don't see any originality in it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (wise)



That's a rather wide ranging condemnation of a whole nation's art.

I shall save you from this anti-intellectual stance.

My guess is what you are actually saying is-

"I'm not a fan of Ukiyo-e style wood block prints."


You're welcome!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (9q7Dl)

245 'Dahlonega' in GA

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (OdK9v)

Refugio and LaMarque in Texas

Posted by: MAC SOG at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (QPdNE)

246 Was that the botulism thing?
Posted by: IrishEi
---------

Yes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (OdK9v)

247 Hah! Haven't heard that one in a while. Were you up on the lovely south shore?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (p+Wdc)
---------------

I was! Just got home last night. It was a quick trip, only five days. But we fit a lot in.

How are you doing, my friend?

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (UoSKV)

248 Israel should take back the Temple Mount under their full control. I am so sick of this garbage. Every time they back off the response is more violence from all the usual suspects.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (zJ3L1)

249
Residency tests:

...
Mexia, Texas

Bexar County, Tx

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:18 AM (Bd48Y)
--------------------------
Versailles, IN

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (SsblQ)

250 There are quieter parts, away from the touristy sections. Had family who lived in Pass-a-Grill and it was glorious, and more family in Vero Beach (land of golf course-based gated communities) that was also nice.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:16 AM (NOIQH)

Ft. Lauderdale used to be nice, I grew up there. Now it's just a congested third world country with better architecture and plumbing. Every time I fly in to visit my brother, I feel like I should need a passport.

Most of my family relocated to Central Florida as it was becoming that. I have nothing nice to say about Central Florida at all.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (X52ZZ)

251 Is anyone here old enough to remember the Bon Vivant vichyssoise"

Yep. Lived in NYC at the time, too.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (MINbv)

252 >>I walked out on something called " the Eagle Bridge" at the Grand Canyon.


Ooh, I so want to do that! It's on the North Rim, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (NOIQH)

253 Israel should take back the Temple Mount under their
full control. I am so sick of this garbage. Every time they back off
the response is more violence from all the usual suspects.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (zJ3L1)
=================

Amen to that.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (lwiT4)

254

Joe Btfsplk meets Mr. Mxyzptlk

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (IqV8l)

255 Yes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM
~~~~~

I don't think anyone ever heard of botulism before that. Caused quite a panic; now people squirt it in their faces.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (HiDrR)

256 Do people know when you un-follow them on Twitter?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (HiDrR)

There's an app for that. Seriously, there is.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (Enq6K)

257 Ooh, I so want to do that! It's on the North Rim, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:22 AM (NOIQH)


Just be SURE you like heights...

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (zSVEm)

258 Versailles, IN



Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (SsblQ)
============================

Cairo IL
Vienna, IL

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)

259 >>Ft. Lauderdale used to be nice, I grew up there. Now it's just a
congested third world country with better architecture and plumbing.


That's a shame!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (NOIQH)

260 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:11 AM (OdK9v)

That never gets old.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (wYseH)

261 I've been looking for a condo in Vero Beach. Nice area. Anywhere else I can be close to the beach without leaving a lung for payment?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (zJ3L1)

262 The Guardian has an op ed today that children belong only to government, and they deign to allow parents to raise them unless they do or say something that offends our globalist overlords.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (jx78V)

263 Missus kraken jus tood there, WELL back, her tentacles firmly wrapped around a sign post. Her eyes were ... Big.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:20 AM (zSVEm)
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I would be standing right there next to her, with my fingernails dug into that sign post.

I can't even look at that photo of the Empire State Building construction workers eating lunch on the beam without feeling ill.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (UoSKV)

264 258 Versailles, IN



Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (SsblQ)
============================

Cairo IL
Vienna, IL

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)


Cuba, Mexico, and Nevada Missouri.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (zSVEm)

265 258 Versailles, IN



Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (SsblQ)
============================

Cairo IL
Vienna, IL



Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)



Russia, OH
Houston, OH

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 10:25 AM (cAnNx)

266 >>Just be SURE you like heights...

I don't particularly*, but I love the grand canyon and roller-coasters, so it seems like it would hit that sweet spot of viewing natural beauty + total thrill.


*I lived in an 18th floor condo for years, so I got used to the queasiness of looking down.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:25 AM (NOIQH)

267 That's a rather wide ranging condemnation of a whole nation's art.

I shall save you from this anti-intellectual stance.

My guess is what you are actually saying is-

"I'm not a fan of Ukiyo-e style wood block prints."


You're welcome!
Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (9q7Dl)


I'm rather fond of this one:

https://tinyurl.com/y8qklfpc

(although it is clearly densiflora and not thunbergensis and thus transgresses, nay, even shatters many Western preconceptons )

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 10:25 AM (CPk08)

268 Is Ft Lauderdale really that bad, I stayed at a hotel last time and it seemed pretty nice.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 10:25 AM (zJ3L1)

269 235 OT:

Do people know when you un-follow them on Twitter?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:19 AM (HiDrR)

If they pay attention to their follower list, yes.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (XMDuf)

270 I like Florida quite a bit. You just have to stay away from the touristy areas and out of Broward/Miami-Dade.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (0mRoj)

271 262 The Guardian has an op ed today that children belong only to government, and they deign to allow parents to raise them unless they do or say something that offends our globalist overlords.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 25, 2017 10:24 AM (jx78V)

Of course they would.

It takes a village, and by village they mean almighty soulless bureaucracy, to raise a child.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (X52ZZ)

272 Cairo IL
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)
-------------------------------------------------

Cairo is tricky. I have had some long-time residents tell me it is Care-O and others that it is Kye-ro, and yet others that it is Kay-ro.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (SsblQ)

273 MPPP - if you're still around.....I was thinking of you this weekend. I was at new/used/vintage bookstore in town (I live in Fredericksburg, VA) and they have a section on Hollywood history. As part of their collection, they have about 15 4" binders full of (Women! *put a cork in it Romney*) early Hollywood 8X10 glossies of obscure and famous actors. Pics start around turn of the century through the 50's. I spent about 2 hours leafing through the binders; some of the names I recognized from your marvelous posts. The bookstore is called Riverby Books in Fredericksburg.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (fYDTd)

274 Houston, OH"

Houston street, NYC.
Corolla, NC

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (MINbv)

275 >>The Guardian has an op ed today that children belong only to government,
and they deign to allow parents to raise them unless they do or say
something that offends our globalist overlords.


And they wonder why Americans love their guns?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (NOIQH)

276 and no, I was not saying that was from the floating world...

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (CPk08)

277 Joe Btfsplk meets Mr. Mxyzptlk
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
----------

I would like to hear them introduced by Al Sharpton.

As I have mentioned before, I keep hoping that the name of the President of Turkmenistan will some day pop up on Al's teleprompter:
Gurbanguly Mälikgulyýewiç Berdimuhamedow

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 10:27 AM (OdK9v)

278 272 Cairo IL
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)
-------------------------------------------------

Cairo is tricky. I have had some long-time residents tell me it is Care-O and others that it is Kye-ro, and yet others that it is Kay-ro.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (SsblQ)

It's also pretty much South Detroit.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:27 AM (zSVEm)

279 Tami, that is not real. The aerial photos are draped
over a digital terrain model (which probably exaggerated 3x), and
ditorted. Easy to do in Google Earth.

Posted by: Pnut at July 25, 2017 10:13 AM (iynDC)

Really?....phew. I'd hate to think that existed anywhere.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:27 AM (Enq6K)

280 and yet others that it is Kay-ro.


Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (SsblQ)
===========================

When I used to live down there, it was Kay-ro. Of course, this was the 70's and everyone was high.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (lwiT4)

281 "We need a list of most fear- inducing bridges, or even stretches of road.



Posted by: kraken"

New River Gorge bridge in West Virginia, 876 feet about the gorge. used to be the longest arch bridge in the world. However it is not the bridge itself that is so fearsome, although it is impressive. It is the people bungee jumping to the rapids below (an activity I always have considered border-line insane.)


Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (MxEKc)

282 What a putz. That idiot that was on the Tacoma Narrows left his Doggeh in his car to die.

(*&**&^%&^)

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (sf2BM)

283 272 Cairo IL
Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM (lwiT4)
-------------------------------------------------

Cairo is tricky. I have had some long-time residents tell me it is Care-O and others that it is Kye-ro, and yet others that it is Kay-ro.


Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (SsblQ)



So its like trying to order a gyro at a greek restaurant. No matter which way you try to pronounce it you're gonna be wrong.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (cAnNx)

284 Beaufort, sc and Beaufort nc

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (E4p3I)

285 270 I like Florida quite a bit. You just have to stay away from the touristy areas and out of Broward/Miami-Dade.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 10:26 AM (0mRoj)


Easier just to not visit the whole damn state.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (CPk08)

286 In the most vocal opposition to president Donald Trump yet, former CIA Director John Brennan said that if the white house tries to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, government officials should refuse to follow the presidents orders, as they would be - in his view- "inconsistent" with the duties of the executive branch.




=============
This is what it looks like when "officials" start to sniff that the rule of law is dead. First its just talk about hypotheticals, and a couple of months later they are talking about giving the mob a whiff of grapeshot to get them under control.

C'est la vie . . .

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (Wn+5z)

287 There's an app for that. Seriously, there is.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:23 AM
~~~~~

Thanks, Tami. I'll Bing it.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (HiDrR)

288 Paris, TX
Palestine,TX

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 10:29 AM (A3edJ)

289 We have to make it crystal clear to the those RINO fucks and the RNC that if they Torpedo PDT, the Republican party is done, Toast, history.
=========
Well consider the possibility that the "rino F*&^%s already know that, and have been operating for the uniparty for a long time. In fact they might actually see the end of the RNC as a feature not a bug.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 10:30 AM (y/1Lm)

290 Syracuse, NY

(Really Siracusa) Syracuse, Sicily

Posted by: Marcus T, Apparently Evil Wall Street Dude at July 25, 2017 10:31 AM (zJ3L1)

291 Sorry IrishEi, I was distracted. I mean to give you the link.



http://tinyurl.com/ylfgwew

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:31 AM (Enq6K)

292 Versailles ky. Milan IN

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 10:31 AM (E4p3I)

293 Paris, TX
Palestine,TX



Paris is easy.
Pal-uh-steen

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:32 AM (Bd48Y)

294 Easier just to not visit the whole damn state.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (CPk0
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the trees aren't very nice there anyway. You want good trees, go northeast coast for deciduous or Rockies or NW for evergreens.

Posted by: bluebell at July 25, 2017 10:32 AM (UoSKV)

295 I grew up in Kankakee IL. The adjoining town was Bourbonnais. Pronounced "Ber - BONE - us". Then the Bears moved their training camp there and they got all high and mighty. So now it's 'Bourbon-AYE".

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:32 AM (lwiT4)

296 The Guardian has an op ed"

Well bless their hearts.

And no, that's not the current Yankee slugger, either.

For a UK paper they seem obsessed w/TRUMP!!!!!!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:32 AM (MINbv)

297 Obama fired an IG and slandered him in the process when the IG got the goods on one of his African-American friends.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (A3edJ)

298 Insomniac , I trimmed the puppy yesterday. I forgot to note, the other problem aside from keeping the puppy from squirming is picking up the fur before he can eat it.

And hi grammy, welcome back!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (hMwEB)

299 >>I grew up in Kankakee IL. The adjoining town was Bourbonnais. Pronounced "Ber - BONE - us".

Huh, that's creative!

Here in CO:
-- Buena Vista = Boona Vista
-- Pueblo = Pee-eh-blow

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (NOIQH)

300 So now it's 'Bourbon-AYE".


Close to the Marsailles (MAR-sails) radar site for NWS

Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (7n4KQ)

301 Bridges are overrated.

Posted by: Fords at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (WmuSq)

302 301 Bridges are overrated.

Heh.

Posted by: Tacoma Narrows at July 25, 2017 10:34 AM (7n4KQ)

303 and I thought I'd just add my pet theory to it.

Just about every rational explanation to trying to figure it out fails. Islam will obviously swallow the Left whole
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Simpler yet.

Our enemies are principles powers and dominions and their orcs, goblins, trolls etc will not kill each other, for the most part, until we are dead and gone.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (j3H78)

304 Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:32 AM (Bd48Y)

I was just naming Foreign name cities.

If you want tricky pronunciations for people not from the area, I'll give you Calcasieu parish.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (A3edJ)

305 Insomniac , I trimmed the puppy yesterday.




Is that what you kids are calling it now?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (Bd48Y)

306 anti-intellectual stance

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 10:21 AM (9q7Dl)

Your point?

Seriously, there are some fine collections of Japanese art in this area (the Met has an excellent one), and yet I find very little appealing about it. I realize that there is more to it than the block prints, but I find most of it one dimensional.

Besides...Pearl Harbor!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (wYseH)

307 I'm late to the comments this morning so:



Lake Pontchartrain Bridge when a hurricane is coming in and Bogota, TN.


Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 10:36 AM (yzxic)

308 Thank you votermom - you were successful in trimming your own pup? Kudos to you - that's harder than it looks.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 25, 2017 10:36 AM (lwiT4)

309 If you want tricky pronunciations for people not from the area, I'll give you Calcasieu parish.



Ahhh.

Cal-cashew?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (Bd48Y)

310 Seriously, there are some fine collections of Japanese art in this area (the Met has an excellent one), and yet I find very little appealing about it. I realize that there is more to it than the block prints, but I find most of it one dimensional.

Besides...Pearl Harbor!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (wYseH)

Sort of Egyption or Byzantine then?

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (zSVEm)

311 Our enemies are principles powers and dominions and their orcs, goblins, trolls etc will not kill each other, for the most part, until we are dead and gone.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 10:35 AM (j3H7

I think the Left has some kind of plan to unify all of the forces of evil under their banner, once we're out of the way.

Think of the long game they've been playing against the USA since the Wilson Administration.

They've got a plan to deal with the aftermath too. It's just the way they think.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (X52ZZ)

312 >>The one on the left:


http://tinyurl.com/ycrva8x7
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 25, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)
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Oh good grief. It looks like the road is folded. Like a slice of raw bacon.
The one on the left looks like a HotWheelz track.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (JNTt1)

313 I'll give you Calcasieu parish.

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In Romania?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 10:38 AM (SsblQ)

314 301 Bridges are overrated.
Posted by: Fords at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (WmuSq)

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you wanna say that to our faces?

Posted by: Jeff Beau and Lloyd at July 25, 2017 10:38 AM (PNcou)

315 Versailles ky. Milan IN

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 10:31 AM (E4p3I)


Vuhr-sales and My-lun. At least, that's how it's pronounced for Milan, TN.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 25, 2017 10:38 AM (yzxic)

316 Most frightening bridge. I80 connecting San Francisco to Oakland. Double decker bridge that pancaked in the 1989 Lima Prieta. Since 1989, I've driven over/under on that bridge and have turned blue holding my breath until off it.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 25, 2017 10:39 AM (fYDTd)

317 They've got a plan to deal with the aftermath too. It's just the way they think.




Problem is, "the plan" doesn't think that way.
When you make a plan, it helps to have all parties on board.
Somehow, I don't see the muzzies going along with the left.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:39 AM (Bd48Y)

318 281 New River Gorge bridge in West Virginia, 876 feet
about the gorge. used to be the longest arch bridge in the world.
However it is not the bridge itself that is so fearsome, although it is
impressive. It is the people bungee jumping to the rapids below (an
activity I always have considered border-line insane.)

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 10:28 AM (MxEKc)
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It's
a really interesting historical bridge and there's a nice museum about
the area and the coal industry nearby. Also a somewhat
challenging hike (if you like stairs) or a car ride around it. I think
it's possible to walk the platform just underneath the bridge (with
appropriate safety tethers).

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at July 25, 2017 10:40 AM (YidHP)

319 They've got a plan to deal with the aftermath too. It's just the way they think.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (X52ZZ)

It's an alliance of evil... and for my part, I always believe there is an underlying spiritual force giving it energy.
But that's just my view.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:40 AM (zSVEm)

320 Sort of Egyption or Byzantine then?

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (zSVEm)

Oooph.

Egyptian art! I remember being dragged through those exhibits as a kid. All I wanted to do was look at the mummies, but NO!

Byzantine has hints of something better just over the horizon, and some of it is certainly appealing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (wYseH)

321 I think the Left has some kind of plan to unify all of the forces of evil under their banner, once we're out of the way.

They've got a plan to deal with the aftermath too. It's just the way they think.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 25, 2017 10:37 AM (X52ZZ)


I don't think so. I think once we're out of the way, they'll turn on each other, just like they did in the French Revolution. Each 'woke' faction will face off against another in a never-ending bloody 'woker than thou' competition. Winners rule, losers get buried.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (eKbO9)

322 The Guardian has an op ed today that children belong only to government,
and they deign to allow parents to raise them unless they do or say
something that offends our globalist overlords.



Has it finally twigged with Our Betters that their Glorious New World of Abortophilic, Tranny-philic, Children-phobic, Energy-phobic, Normal Weather Cycle-Denying, Anti-Science, Anti-Capitalist, Anti-Prosperity is-

unsustainable?


Where are their Tax Cattle(tm) going to come from if they don't have kids?

And if someone else is having the kids and raising them with their horrible values, how can they sustain their State and Control?

Or...

They're just being control-freak dicks obsessed with their own power.


I'm guessing, Option 2. They don't have enough self-reflection and brainpower for Option 1>

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (9q7Dl)

323 Chappaquiddick Bridge, Martha's Vineyard.

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (4AVeu)

324 For a UK paper they seem obsessed w/TRUMP!!!!!!
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If they're bitching about Trump, they're NOT talking about the Muslim Invasion of the UK.

/yes, they WILL do the bidding of George Soros without asking any questions. Was there a doubt?

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (aT+Bx)

325 For the "cat people"

Kitten sock:

http://tinyurl.com/yag4d2zw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 10:41 AM (iVOAv)

326 Chappaquiddick Bridge, Martha's Vineyard.



That's only a scary bridge if you are a female or an Oldsmobile.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 10:42 AM (Bd48Y)

327 I think the gorilla has hung out with Ace too long. Typically gorillas in the wild will get up at sunrise and move around.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 10:42 AM (UCap9)

328 Somehow, I don't see the muzzies going along with the left."

You mean Ishmael and Achmed aren't going along with the plan to support Hanz and Franz's retirements n' such?

You're rayciss

/Frau Blucher

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 10:42 AM (MINbv)

329 297
Obama fired an IG and slandered him in the process when the IG got the goods on one of his African-American friends.





Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (A3edJ)

And the MFM had nothing to say about it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 10:42 AM (mpXpK)

330 Kitten sock.
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OMG. Adorable.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 10:43 AM (aT+Bx)

331 Charlotte NC
Charlotte MI

NC emphasis on 1st syllable.

MI emphasis on