1 Deep State gotta deep.

2 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."

Tingles.

3 I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman joke about Tillerson and can't. Where's Muldoon when you need him?

4 Ace, didn't you call for Tillerson to be replaced like a day or two ago?

5 I am not going to believe anything the MSM says until it proves to be true in real life. Tillerson is probably taking some heat from PDT, but he is used to that in his corporate career..shareholders are not known for their genteel disposition.

6 I would do it and do exactly what Trump wanted me to do. I trust him more to have his country's best interests at heart than anyone other than myself.

7 So who comes in?

--

Sounds like a job for Brutus, if the establishment gets its wish.

8 This explains why Tillerson is taking some vacation time, he is mad at Trump for getting into his rice bowl.

9 http://www.kansas.com/news/local/article162859068.html


Wichita Woman wins national contest, then was disqualified for supporting Trump

An Instagram post showing support for President Donald Trump apparently disqualified a local makeup artist from a national contest.

Gypsy Freeman, who splits time between Wichita and Florida, last month was declared the winner of an Instagram contest sponsored by Kat Von D Beauty, according to screenshots taken by Freeman.

The winner of the Saint + Sinner Contest – and a guest – was to be flown to Los Angeles to attend the launch party of a new makeup line from Kat Von D, perhaps best known for her role on “LA Ink.” The approximate value of the prize package, which included a $500 gift card to Sephora, was $2,100.

To enter, Freeman submitted an Instagram image of an angelic figure beside a girl in an all-black outfit and thick mascara.

When Freeman was announced as the winner, curious Instagrammers went to her page and found a pro-Trump post from Election Day last year.

That evening, she received a direct message from Kat Von D’s personal Instagram account, telling her the celebrity had “drawn a personal line in the sand between myself and anyone who supports that man,” according to screenshots of the conversation.

“My launch party [and my brand] celebrates many things that Trump is against,” the celebrity went on to say, according to the screenshots. “And I just need you to know that I personally have a hard time with inviting anyone who would support such an anti-feminist, anti-homosexual/LGBT, anti-immigrant, and anti-climate change fascist such as Trump.”

According to the screenshots, Freeman replied: “I won’t be upset with you if you can’t have us there for these reasons, and I wish you the best. We would love to be there, of course, but I sincerely do understand if you decide to replace us with someone who supports the candidate you support.”

The celebrity then replied, according to the screenshots provided: “It’s not about inviting people based on their political stance – it’s just extremely difficult (borderline impossible) for me to be friends with or associate with anyone who would support a man who goes against everything I stand for. I would feel the same way towards people who supported Hitler, or any other fascist.”

Multiple phone calls and messages left with Kendo Holdings, the parent company of Kat Von D Beauty, have not been returned.

The Florida-based photographer who took the photos for Freeman’s entry, Jenn Bischof, was invited to – and attended – the launch party in her place, Freeman said. A post on Bischof’s Instagram account shows her at the party alongside Kat Von D.

All evidence of the contest’s existence has since been deleted from the brand’s Instagram account and website, though the contest rules are available in a cached version of the site. The rules state that any legal U.S. resident 18 or older was eligible to win and could enter by submitting a “Saint and Sinner inspired” makeup look.

Freeman told The Eagle it’s “really unfortunate” that politics was brought into an art contest “where I never brought it into the art contest.”

“I didn’t erase (the Trump post) either,” she said. “Part of the great thing about this country is having freedom of speech.

“I said the same thing to Kat. I was like, ‘You can say whatever you want to say and you shouldn’t filter comments based on who I support. It doesn’t bother me.’ ”

Freeman – who does fashion editorial, styling and a variety of bridal work – said she has used Kat Von D Beauty products in her makeup kit for years, though she will likely stop doing so. She said she plans to contact Sephora, which sells the product line, about the incident as well.

“It’s definitely bigotry – it’s everything that they’re calling us, they’re doing,” she said. “It’s a huge case of hypocrisy.”

10 Second look at Sec. State Mitt Rmoney?

(throws up)

11 Aye, aye, captain.

12 I'll take the job.
Let's bomb Libya again.

13 "Sources reportedly close to Tillerson told CNN that the Secretary of State is losing patience with Trump and, as a result, there may be a "Rexit"in the near future"


Well, bye.

14 Well, Bolton ain't doing anything, is he?

15

Tillerson did it as a favor it sounded like from the beginning. He probably wouldn't mind getting back to a more sane life.

Politics is dirty and ugly. Trump is learning it the hard way. It ain't easy.

16 Has Trump fired the entire Obama state department yet?

17 Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

18 Trump is going to get impeached for this, LOL.

Black helicopters are moving into position for Operation Double Scoops.

19 bolton

20 Who's gonna' fill their shoes ?

21 Good God, if it is true that Trump wanted a specific deliverable (a list of options for the next meeting), and Tillerson didn't do it, then fuck Tillerson. This is basic Corporate stuff, people. You deliver what the boss wants.

Problem is, I don't know what is true or not.

Thanks, MFM.

22 "anti-homosexual/LGBT...fascist such as Trump."

"In other news, I am a fucking retard" - Kat Von D.

23 Except, who in their right mind believes any report on CN-fucking-N?????

24 Never save your enemy from their own mistakes. The Iran deal belongs to Obama and the Democrats. Don't save them from it. Make them own it, right up until Iran tests its own nuclear weapon.

Then you can suggest Iran name their first two nukes "Jug Ears" and "Horse Face" after the two fucking Democrats who made sure Iran could get them.

25
Yep, Bolton is the one. Maybe Rudy.

So I missed it.... what happened in the kabuki vote?

26 25
Yep, Bolton is the one. Maybe Rudy.

So I missed it.... what happened in the kabuki vote?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (r+sAi)


50-50 tie. Pence cast the tiebreaker. Debate is on.

Murkowski and Collins voted no.

27 "CNN reports"

is a problem for me. Just sayin'

28 "In other news, I am a fucking retard" - Kat Von D.

Kat ... don't be so hard on yourself. Your level of sexual activity is no one else's business.

29 This whole "drain the swamp" idea is difficult when the entire area is a swamp.

30 No one takes a stressful job except for one reason: to increase their reputation, power, and personal earning potential.

It doesn't seem like being a Secretary in the Trump Administration is the gateway to accomplishing any of those things.


You don't get those things by not carrying out the boss's orders. You get those things best by carrying out those orders "jam up and jelly tight".

31 Except, who in their right mind believes any report on CN-fucking-N?????
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit from a few months back?

32
Thank you JJ.

33 29 This whole "drain the swamp" idea is difficult when the entire area is a swamp.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (3myMJ)


When you cannot drain swamp, swamp drain.

- - Shit Confuious Said, Vol. 2

34 For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

35 17
Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (mbhDw)

And thus far, this has been Trump's biggest mistake. Not removing those who are against him. It isn't like you have to ferret them out. If you walked down the hall and indiscriminately picked 50% of the people you saw, you still wouldn't incur any friendly fire.

36 True story:

The word "malaria" comes from the Italian "mal" (bad" + "aria" (air) -- due to the medieval belief that malaria was caused by the "bad air" around marshy areas. They had no idea it was the mosquitos in the air, not the air itself.

But there was a large swampy area west of Rome where the Tiber delta was, and since Roman times it was thought to be cursed, literally cursed, with "mal aria," which made people sick, so it was avoided.

Then in the 1930s Mussolini announced that he was literally going to "drain the swamp," a massive engineering project. But he did it -- he drained the swamp around the Tiber delta.

And it worked! Suddenly no one was getting malaria anymore (because there was no longer around breeding grounds for mosquito larvae).

This is actually one of the things that really really made Mussolini popular. After he drained the swamp, the people loved him wholeheartedly.

Not that I approve of Mussolini's other policies, but Trump needs to take a big historical lesson from this:

Draining the swamp will make you eternally popular.

It may be difficult to do, but the effort is worth it.

Drain that swamp! Get rid of Washington Malaria!

37 Replace Tillerson with Bolton. Replace Sessions with Napolitano.

38 That depends on who you are thinking about as a replacement, Ace.

Maybe if we got out of the D.C. Cocktail circuit picks we could do better as a country.

Some of our best Sos's were outside this mold of conventional 30 year old scotch drinking sycophants we've fallen into.

39 34
For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

And for clarification - that does not mean the Republican party.

40 Probably, Tillerson expected his staff to get right on that! and they slow-walked it....
So, maybe he ain't up to snuff, eh?

41 Trump should have fired every single person he legally could right when his hand came off the Bible.

He should do so today to rectify that.

42 Who's going to take this job?

Trump could start with 12 candidates, and then weed one out each week, until he's selected a winner to get the post. They could even televise it.

I'll show myself out.

43 36
Drain that swamp! Get rid of Washington Malaria!
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (DQ4Fv)


Malaria already went to college. Along with Sushi.

44
Fact check status:
[X] According to the report
[X] one of the sources said
[X] the source added

45 This shit comes from CNN... pullease.. they make up stories by throwing darts at words on a cork board..

46 Not that I approve of Mussolini's other policies, but Trump needs to take a big historical lesson from this:

Draining the swamp will make you eternally popular.
=========
Until they hang you from a lamp post, naked, upside down and the women cut off your junk.

47 Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits
in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit
from a few months back?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (7uYFy)



Yeah, and if it's not CNN it's the cock-holsters at the WaPu. At this point any thinking person has to immediately disbelieve any story about the Trump Admin from those two sources.....

Just gotta!

48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.

49 "jam up and jelly tight".


We have a closet Tommy Roe fan.

50 For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

And for clarification - that does not mean the Republican party.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

Yes exactly. NO RINOs

51 48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (zSVEm)


Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

52 I say fire Tillerson

53 But I will say this.. badmouthing your own AG in public has to sit badly with all the other cabinet members.. Trump is an asshole.. it's gonna be a long 4 years.

54 Probably, Tillerson expected his staff to get right on that! and they slow-walked it....

So, maybe he ain't up to snuff, eh?

Posted by: MarkY at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (i022r)



Isn't the State Dept still 95% Obama cock-suckers?

55 Next up on CNN, is Steve Bannon really s Russian plant like Kevin Costner was in that movie!! OMG!!

56 52 I say fire Tillerson
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)


Considering its record, do we really need a State Dept.? Axing for a fiend.

57 The biggest problem with swamps in general is that once you have one, immediately adorable orphans named Penny get kidnapped by Madame Medusa and taken to her derelict paddleboat, where they are beyond all hope of rescue unless the Rescue Aid Society sends two mice named Barnard and Bianca to save her.

Am I watching The Rescuers in my head instead of thinking about Tillerson? You're damn right I am.

58 Confucius say man draining swamp tap morass.

59 Told this one before, but I had a cousin who worked in DC for 29 years. Cheated with fake paperwork to get his 30 year retirement level, which he bragged about. Dept of Labor under Robert Reich and Craig Fuller.

When Raegan was elected I asked him if he was worried. He laughed. "Presidents come and go, but we are always here", he said.

60 Trump should get Lisa Murkowski to take the job, then fire her.

61 badmouthing your own AG in public has to sit badly with all the other cabinet members.. Trump is an asshole.. it's gonna be a long 4 years.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (so+oy)

yes, but knee capping the man who appointed you AG by recussing yourself and sticking him with a special council up his ass is also an asshole move

62 Yeah i haven't been particularly impressed with Tillerson in the office. He seems to be just keeping the seat warm and getting little done.

For all those worrying that PDT was a closet Left Winger, I think he is
learning that the ONLY people he can count on is The Right Wing.

I think he is personally center-left/Clintonian, but is being so hated and villified by his own team that he's moving to the right. He's not a guy who'll give in and decide to get along either. The guy holds a grudge like Rosie O'Donnell does a bucket of Cherry Garcia.

63 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

64 54
Isn't the State Dept still 95% Obama cock-suckers?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (jjaLl)


It's still 99% FDR cocksuckers.

65 Tillerson is another piece of crap he needs to scrape from the bottom of his golf shoe.

66 51 48 What I like about Trump are the things he pushes that would make a solid platform for a new Party... which we absolutely need.
Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (zSVEm)


Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Well, the here and now is a bunch of dithering and obfuscation by Washington, which shows no sign of ever abating because they can get by with it.

67 Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.

68 Who's going to take this job? The Stache is coming, the stache is coming

69 56
52 I say fire Tillerson

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)





Considering its record, do we really need a State Dept.? Axing for a fiend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:14 PM (mbhDw)

Only if your friend wants to enrich themselves, their foundation and sell access.

70 Bolton starts off with only 51 possible votes to confirm because Rand Paul hates him.

71 "So who comes in?"

Mr. John Bolton.

God willing.

72 He really needed Tillerson to deal with the Russians. Since Democrats have made any rapprochement toxic, so he really doesn't need him. We'll just live in the dangerous world Democrats create for their political advancement

73 If both Tillerson and Sessions are forced out, Trump has created a real dumpster fire.

You can't scream that Tillerson is part of the swamp, guy is a complete outsider. And he's incredibly competent.

Whatever, I'll still pull the handle for Trump, but this idea that Trump is some super awesome businessman that only puts the "best" around him and makes sound decisions to me looks like someone flying by the seat of their pants and just goes with whoever best flatters his ego.

Maybe Ivanaka and Jared Kushner can just run every department.

74 the FL woman should sue for breach of contract but it would cost her more than the $2100 prize.

75 Most likely Tillerson was out of the country and so he put staff on this issue. They screwed him.

I know in the beginning there was a lot of talk about institutional knowledge and we can't just fire everyone. However, if the institutional knowledge is perversely intent on doing its own thing, its a problem. Its not a democracy anymore then, is it.

76 Trump should get Lisa Murkowski to take the job, then fire her.

Lindsey first

77 67 Meanwhile, in the here and now, _______????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mbhDw)

Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (UBzPO)


Love him. And my question stands.

78 Confucius say man draining swamp tap morass.
Posted by: ancient wisdom at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (+INtM)

LOL!

79 When Raegan was elected I asked him if he was worried. He laughed. "Presidents come and go, but we are always here", he said.

That's exactly right. The Bureaucracy is unaccountable and only swings one way: to the left. There has to be house cleaning and changes made or nothing good can come of it no matter who wins or what majority there is. And even then, its going to be up to congress to deal with some wayward judges, as well because they've proved that they're willing to abandon every semblence of justice, prudence, logic, and reason to impose their own desires.

80 I think he is personally center-left/Clintonian, but is being so hated and villified by his own team that he's moving to the right. He's not a guy who'll give in and decide to get along either. The guy holds a grudge like Rosie O'Donnell does a bucket of Cherry Garcia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (39g3+)

I doubt he is center left...Maybe center, but most of all pragmatic and wants to get things done. And yes I bet he holds a hell of a grudge until it suits him not to

81 I don't think he'll have any problem finding someone to fill the position. That dump overflows with people who think they are truly speacial, and will be the only person who can do the job.

82 70
Bolton starts off with only 51 possible votes to confirm because Rand Paul hates him.


Posted by: mark1971 at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (xPl2J)
Does Rand Paul like anyone at all? He seems to dislike everyone and everything.

83 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."




Or, you are in DC.

84 If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.*

*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.

85 It's still 99% FDR cocksuckers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (mbhDw)



LOL, good one!!!

86 I think that working alongside high-performers like former generals Mattis and Kelly makes people like Tillerson and Sessions look like they are moving at a snail's pace.

Tillerson may have done well in the corporate world, but in government you have to deal with the lethargy and inertia of bureaucracy.

Ditto for the former senator now AG, whose job in the Senate was to frustrate change and generate false compromise.

Try to keep up with the big dogs, boys.

87 Adam Kredo over at the _Free Bacon_ caught a State Department apparatchik saying, officially and on the record, that State has absolutely no idea what causes Arab Muslims to commit terror atrocities such as the recent lethal attacks at the Temple Mount. It's a total mystery. Perhaps sunspots are somehow implicated. Further investigation is required.

And this was just a couple of days ago. After Tillerson's been on the job at State for months. To give you an idea of just how deep the rot goes in Foggy Bottom.

88 Or what rickb223 said.

89 This shit comes from CNN... pullease.. they make up stories by throwing darts at words on a cork board..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

or Ben Rhodes cake-hole

90 under Tillerson the State Department has floated a number of policy turds, mainly concerning the Middle East. not to mention the leaks and backbiting. I really don't think he has done what he needed to do.

91 yes, but knee capping the man who appointed you AG by recussing yourself and sticking him with a special council up his ass is also an asshole move
Posted by: Nevergiveup
.............
It's a bad situation all around... the last thing we need is a petulant prezzy tweeting about it from the oval office.

Man up and fire Sessions or shut the fuck up..

92 If I had billions to blow I would explore a new party on the right. I don't have any money so I will wait patently for anything that might shoe a small hope that maybe someday somewhere there could be a shift right in politics. I feel like Charlie Brown and the damn football.

93 87 Foggy Bottom.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (ujwCG)


Top can't locate it.

94 >>>>>Wasn't CNN the source for the "Tillerson just sits

in his office and doesn't make eye contact with his staffers" bullshit

from a few months back?



Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (7uYFy)



Yeah,
and if it's not CNN it's the cock-holsters at the WaPu. At this point
any thinking person has to immediately disbelieve any story about the
Trump Admin from those two sources.....

Just gotta!
.
.
.Wapo was the one who said Trump was going to fire Bannon over two months ago....according to four separate sources "close" to the Administration.

95 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."

Go on.

96 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.

97 And he's incredibly competent.

Wouldn't being incredibly competent throw a refusal to compet into even greater relief, and constitute a bigger failure? Asking for a friend.

98 >>>>>If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.*



*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all
external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description
requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by
induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.
.
.
.I'm surrounded by assholes......

99 >>>*Unless, specifically, you have moved into a location known by all external sources to be full of assholes, and your job description requires, explicitly, coming in contact with those in charge, who by induction will be the biggest assholes of them all.

Trump came from NYC, you think he'd be used to assholes. Hell, he invited assholes to his wedding.

100 35 17
Ace, if the people you hire and trust to do what you want don't or won't do it, then they have to go. What am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (mbhDw)

And thus far, this has been Trump's biggest mistake. Not removing those who are against him. It isn't like you have to ferret them out. If you walked down the hall and indiscriminately picked 50% of the people you saw, you still wouldn't incur any friendly fire.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)

++++

The problems are the limitations on firing some and on replacing others. He can't fire civil servants without cause. And, most of the political appointees have to get confirmed through the Senate. And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.

101 96 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (XvbjR)


Here I is!!!!

- - Buckwheat Sefton

102 95 "He's just a warm body filling a hole."
____________________________________


He said "a hole".

103 the last thing we need is a petulant prezzy tweeting about it from the oval office.

No the last thing we need is The FAB, or some other Left Winger, or a RINO in the Oval Office.

What ever PDT faults are, and he has many, he is our President and our last hope to break the swamp or else.

104 What can Tillerson (or anyone for that matter) do if State is dry rotted top to bottom? Ship the worst of the lot to remote locations of the compass - in conjunction with forced retirements - probably pencils out to less than fifteen percent of departmental careerists.

105 When the Left makes kamikaze runs, it's because they know someone has their back and will hook them up with some cushy sinecure somewhere in exchange for their losses.

Nobody's doing that on our side. It's like nobody has the slightest understanding of human psychology or how risk-reward actually fucking works.

106 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J
++++

Wasn't that Tillerson?

The guy was not a show boater, loyal, and competent. Had no political aspirations to speak of.

And he ran Exon Mobil, which is a real job.

107 Trump's painting himself into a corner. He can't just start a new season with a new batch of apprentices.

108 If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)



Isn't Rodenstein a Trump appointee?

Believe he is.....

109 Confucius say man with mosquito on ballsack know the meaning of compromise.

110 "No one takes a stressful job except for one reason: to increase their reputation, power, and personal earning potential."

I would take it just to purge my personal enemies list, bang a few hot lobbyists, and bail with style.

111 63 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:15 PM (UCap9)

I no longer agree with that or similar statements.

This country is overrun with worthless pieces of shit. Period.

(not referring to you here)

112 92 If I had billions to blow I would explore a new party on the right. I don't have any money so I will wait patently for anything that might shoe a small hope that maybe someday somewhere there could be a shift right in politics. I feel like Charlie Brown and the damn football.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 04:19

See, that's the problem. People who pay attention to what is going on are completely cynical about politicians, not believing one thing that they say or say they are going to do.
....... On reflection, that is not a problem, but reality, and what new directions are made of.

113 Sessions has pulled a couple of real asshole moves that are the hallmark of someone being in Washington too long. He's more concerned with his personal appearance that's doing what is just.

If I were paranoid, I might think he's the establishments inside guy. Just checking the boxes but really focused on undermining the president.

The public statements are designed by Trump for effect. But i frankly fine no them distasteful and a distraction. There are better ways to skin that cat.

114 Uhh CNN is reporting...

Thank God they don't have some sort of agenda to always be saying so and so is considering resigning!

I mean they've only been doing it since Trump took office.

115 104 What can Tillerson (or anyone for that matter) do if State is dry rotted top to bottom? Ship the worst of the lot to remote locations of the compass - in conjunction with forced retirements - probably pencils out to less than fifteen percent of departmental careerists.

Posted by: 13times at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (WHVu+)

Can't Tillerson remove them for dereliction of duty?

116 Hi, Country Boy.

How are you doing?

117 If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)

Wait for Congress to go into recess...

Fire Sessions....

Recess Appointment ... get a REAL asshole in there for ONE YEAR.

Clean... house...

118 If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

++++

That's my conclusion as well.

I still think Trump is a world better than say Jeb Bush, but it really looks like incompetence and silly vanity is going to take this Administration down.

119 the FL woman should sue for breach of contract but it would cost her more than the $2100 prize.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:17 PM (mpXpK)

Nah. She needs to sue for a couple million. Which will generate so much bad attention and bad publicity that the company will be forced to knuckle under or lose half its customer base.

In the end she'll get to 'settle' for a couple hundred thousand.

This is war. It needs to fought as if it is one.

120 Trump, flooding the zone.

Fuck Kat Von D yadayada and her horrible tattoos.

121 He has to put someone like Bolton in. He knows how the system works, who is who, and how to make the changes necessary to implement Trump's plans and effect long term institutional change.

He also has the requisite honey badger don't give a fuck attitude.

He is also going to demand some autonomy.

122 So let's see what's really going on to account for the sudden spike in hysteria?

Because usually it's something going on behind the scenes when we see the media turn it up to eleven.

NAFTA renegotiations? That might be a ways off yet.

Whatever it is, it's near and dear to the hearts of the globalists.

123 Does this taste like Fermunda cheese to you?

124 Make no mistake, PDT is our last chance. Like him or not.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (UBzPO)

I actually disagree with that sentiment. Trump started a movement. Or more specifically, I think the movement kind of gelled around him. It was already starting to form when he came along. It just really crystallized around him and the election. I don't think he IS the movement by any means.
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.

125 President Trump is considering resigning!!

We are known worldwide for our in depth and completely unbiased and factual reporting!!

126 Trump came from NYC, you think he'd be used to assholes. Hell, he invited assholes to his wedding.
Sure. But DC and NYC assholes are different breeds of asshole and the paradigm is different. In NYC real estate you can control whether an asshole working for you is doing his job, to a point. Thus controlling the scope and direction of asshole.

Probably applicable here too, but with some differences. Guy's got to adapt and find whatever levers he can - and the "normal" ones are not connected to gears that actually do anything constructive.

127 If, and that's a big if, these things are true with Tillerson, it's an example of how you can't put CEO's of big organizations together and expect them to agree on everything.

And it would get loud at times.

I believe Tillerson has more experience negotiating with the Islamists and likely believes he knows more than Trump. And how much Trump is taking advice from his cabinet remains to be seen.

And as been pointed out, who can believe the MSM.

To that point, my bing page has a headline that says, 99% of former NFL players have CTE, according to study.

No, 99% of the 111 brains submitted by family members of players who died with dementia, mental issues, and suicides had CTE.

The study had that small of a sample. Not to be written off. But there is also a Penn State study just released of football players who played in HS in the 50s(yes, different game , BUT without as good protective equipment AND concussion protocol) and there was no difference in the rate of dementia, etc. between players and non players in that study.

128 NO Bolton. Ugh! What the hell is everyone's fascination with this guy?!

NO Napolitano. Double Ugh! He hates Trump.

129 Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.
==
In 10 years 10% of those voters will be dead.

130 I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

131 24 "The Iran deal belongs to Obama and the Democrats. Don't save them from it."

The problem is, the GOPe, lead by Sen. Bob Corker, is just as culpable as the Democrats regarding the Iran Deal. He and his cohort of establishment GOPe globalists handed Obama the Treaty Clause of the Constitution.

132
Sec of State Victor Davis Hanson.

Or Allen West.

133 106 Maybe Trump just needs to install an unknown (nonEstablishment) who doesn't care about the name recognition and clean house.
Posted by: Cardinal Cool J
++++

Wasn't that Tillerson?

The guy was not a show boater, loyal, and competent. Had no political aspirations to speak of.

And he ran Exon Mobil, which is a real job.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (LHzKO)

Agreed. Thing is, maybe Tillerson isn't the man for what needs to be done at State. Maybe Trump needs a total ass-kicker right now to put people on notice.

134 Paul the lesser is in love only with Paul the lessor.

135 100 The problems are the limitations on firing some and
on replacing others. He can't fire civil servants without cause. And,
most of the political appointees have to get confirmed through the
Senate. And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the
confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

If he fires Sessions, a dem, Rod[whatever] takes his place. Not really a solution.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 04:21 PM (FUu/Z)


Congress just approved a new law a couple of weeks ago that makes it easier to fire government workers for cause.

136 " Tillerson hasn't impressed me as especially good or especially bad. He's just a warm body filling a hole."

You say that like it's a bad thing.

137 NO Bolton. Ugh! What the hell is everyone's fascination with this guy?!

NO Napolitano. Double Ugh! He hates Trump.
Posted by: squeakywheel at July




well, more importantly, what is your objection to Bolton?

138 I actually disagree with that sentiment. Trump started a movement. Or more specifically, I think the movement kind of gelled around him. It was already starting to form when he came along. It just really crystallized around him and the election. I don't think he IS the movement by any means.
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.


Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (INRVS)

I wish I could agree with that...but if PDT falls I am not sure we can survive the aftermath. We just barely survived 8 years of Fredo...and we are still be choked by his deep state appointments, Fredocare, and Iran.

If PDT, it just might be the tipping point.

139 >>>I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party

What could go wrong?

Oh, right, everything.

140
Wasn't Judith Exon JFK's girlfriend?

141 I would support Alan West for Secretary of State.

I think he has the experience and personality to get the job done right.

142 Joining us to share her in depth knowledge on this subject is Madame Secretary, Tea Leoni. Madame Secretary, welcome...

143 "making the potential case for withholding certification of Iran at the next 90-day review of the nuclear deal"

Maybe also now a good time to remind ourselves of just how weird the terms of that deal by Obama and Kerry really were.

It ultimately comes down to this question: are the Iranians continuing their nuclear weapons development effort? And precisely how does that get determined? As Reagan once said in a different context, trust but verify.

The Senate, who used Bob Corker's facially unconstitutional enabling bill to grease the deal through without the usual two-thirds treaty vote, didn't get to discuss verification and validation. At all.

In fact, even Obama's top negotiators (led by Wendy Sherman, the former social worker who also handled the failed Nork nuke deal for Billy Jeff) weren't allowed to know anything at all about how verification would be handled.

Instead, all of that was contained in a "side annex" separately negotiated between Tehran and... the IAEA, instead of the USA. No one from the American side has any idea what specific measures and steps are in that protocol.

It's completely opaque. It relies entirely upon this international alphabet-soup agency to be a trusted broker, *and also* not to get fooled by Iranian subterfuges with centrifuges.

Plus, the IAEA themselves are hardly a bastion of objectivity. They've been regularly and plausibly accused of giving rogue states an easy go in the past. Quis custodiet?

144 The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office.



Yeah. No.
Just like the TEA Party. Without Trump, there's just us. Sitting on blogs bitching.

Why Trump? Because he's 70 yrs old and he doesn't need the money. He is beholden to no one. He doesn't have to play nice with anyone.

Not too many others out there on our side that are in that position. And unless they are, they won't stick their necks out.

145 How about Sec of State...RBG?

I mean she keeps telling us about the wonders of the laws of other countries right? Let her go out and learn about them on the federal dime...right?

146 >>I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party

I doubt this would do anything other than cause him to get even less support in Congress.

147 Zerohedge is reporting that Scaramucci has his first scalp, firing Asst Press Sec Michael Short

148 In 10 years 10% of those voters will be dead.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (rm2Cc)

That's the thing - I don't think so. I think you're underestimating the demo, so to speak. That's what Trump or Trumpism or whatever is doing differently. It isn't just a monolithic party of old rich white conservatives. That's the myth the left wants you to believe.

149 What could go wrong?

Oh, right, everything.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 04:28 PM (UCap9)
Yeeeeaaahhh.... I think impeachment might be on the menu..

150 After hearing him speak a few times, I did not think Tillersaurus Rex was cut out for this job. Same thing with Sessions. Rush had a good point today - maybe Trump was/is looking for "brawlers" who fight just like he does for what HE deems is important. Bringing in the Mooch is a good example of that. We need more brawlers. Less milquetoast.

151 Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (INRVS)

Concur...

This all started with Perot and the reform party.... which was a very civilized movement...

They destroyed that movement... but the anger and people were still out there...

They became the TEA Party... which was less organized, and more populist... which got coopted and destroyed...

Which led to the Trump movement... which is populist, nationalist, and angry....

If Washington manages to destroy that movement? What comes next will be uglier....

152 I hear Hillary has some free time.

153 Is there any sources for any of this besides sources say?

No?

Then it's all lies.

Seriously, unless and until everyone stops repeating all of these stories, the press will never ever ever ever stop with their addiction to anonymous sources.

Starve the damn beast.

154 >>>And, the Dems in the Senate are slow-walking all the
confirmation processes, with a great big hand from the GOPe.

Biggest delay is on the Trump end. Nominating people.

155 I think Trump should name Vladimir Putin as Secretary of State.

Just for the sake of variety.

156 Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (INRVS)

For both our sakes and the sakes of our kids, I hope your right. I am just not as optimistic...just mu nature I guess

157 So who comes in?

Nikki Haley.

158 "The problem is, the GOPe, lead by Sen. Bob Corker, is just as culpable as the Democrats regarding the Iran Deal."

Tom Cotton's hands are clean. He was the only member of the Republican Senate caucus to realize what a snafu this deal was, and to vote against it.

159 "I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman
joke about Tillerson and can't."

You know we've come a long way,
it's no long pay to plaaa-aaa-aay,
so tell me, who is Secretary of Sta-a-a-aaa-a-a-aaaa--aaaate

160 155 I think Trump should name Vladimir Putin as Secretary of State.

Just for the sake of variety.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 04:30 PM (4AVeu)

And all press conferences should have Cyrillic subtitles....

161 I nominate either Bill Maher or Steven Coal-burt to replace Rex.
They apparently know everything.

162 Seriously, unless and until everyone stops repeating all of these stories, the press will never ever ever ever stop with their addiction to anonymous sources.
=======
The press is never going to stop. No matter what we do.

Its not Like the Wash Post is run for a profit.

MSM is the billionaire boys club propaganda arm.

163 130
I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed
now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow
figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is
resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:26 PM (A3edJ)
I think this may already be starting to happen. And like I said, I think it will happen with or without Trump leading it.

164 "I would support Alan West for Secretary of State."

He voted the way the gopE wanted him to every time it counted for the American People gopE.

165 I was saying after Trump got elected that he should bring on John Bolton. I said that Mr. Tillerson's problem is that he doesn't understand the difference between a business deal and a deal that could wind up getting people killed. The Cult of Trump unleashed their wrath for questioning Trump's wisdom.

Well, well, well. Mr. Tillerson is less than impressive, as it turns out. I can't wait to hear the excuses that will be made for Mr. Trump for this one.

166 I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party
---
This +1000

He's got three years until he faces the voters again. Best to do it with a new party, with the gop having proven beyond all reasonable excuse, how utterly worthless they are.

167 I know this is a dumb idea, but if you want to gum up the works on the Iran deal, do you nominate Joe Lieberman? You can fire him after he gets that job done.

168 Nikki Haley has been a pleasant surprise in her position. A bright spot.

169 Clearing baffles.

170 157 So who comes in?

Nikki Haley.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 04:31 PM (G0vdT)



Allen West to UN ambassador.

171 Declassify all of State's internal bullhockey surrounding the Iran 'no-paper' deal. Expose and embarrass Obama and Clinton's apparatchiks at State.

172 Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

What's less than zero? With that announcement I would hope others in Congress that do support what he's trying to do and also frustrated with the GOP see that as a chance to bolt. If nothing is going to get done, let's rock this damn boat.

173 Is there any sources for any of this besides sources say? Ask Ben Rhodes

174
The movement (or whatever you want to call it) would have survived even if he jad lost the election, and it will keep on going when he's out of office. Others will come to take up the banner when he's gone.Trump Republicanism or New Conservatism or whatever you want to call it isn't going away any time soon.

I think you're wrong. Movements rarely survive without a dynamic leader

175 >>"I really want to make a convoluted Cat Stevens/Tea for the Tillerman
joke about Tillerson and can't."

Oh baby it's a wild world
And it's hard to get by with a knife in your back

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Decision "Soon" on Whether Sessions Will Stay or Go

#BREAKING Decision 'soon' on fate of US attorney general Sessions: White House

— AFP news agency (@AFP) July 25, 2017

Sessions' allies -- including many conservatives -- are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions, including Trump recently tweeting that had he known Sessions would recuse himself in the Russia matter, he'd've never appointed him AG.

Or, like this one:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has taken a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes (where are E-mails & DNC server) & Intel leakers!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2017

I don't think Trump can have what he wants here. He seems to be pressuring Sessions to either un-recuse himself and end the Mueller probe or resign so he can appoint someone new who will end the Mueller probe.

The first seems impossible -- Sessions has declared himself conflicted on that issue -- and the latter seems no more likely.

Anyone Trump names as AG nominee will of course be asked -- repeatedly, and with no wiggle room -- if they think Mueller should continue doing his job. No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation.

Further, I don't even see who would agree to take the job, given Trump's public scoldings of Sessions.

Trump wants something impossible from the AG.

If Trump wants Mueller fired, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do it on his own authority, without trying to find the cover of a lackey to do it for him.

Kurt Schlicter lays out the case for Trump to just man the hell up and fire Mueller -- the right way -- here:

Trump must eventually fire Robert Mueller, a partisan tool carrying water for his Establishment pals as he oversees an utterly corrupt “investigation” where the only person we actually know committed any wrongdoing is his bestest buddy Jim Comey. But Trump can’t just lash out and do it, though it is well within his political and moral right to do so. No, he’s got to do it cleverly, with cunning, in a way that shows the American people exactly why Mueller’s witch hunt is a flaming dumpster fire of conflicts of interest and contempt for the right of normal Americans to have a say in their own governance.

Trump has to set the stage before he pulls the trigger and puts the coup de grace into the temple of this appalling fiasco. He has to do it so the American people will see and understand why ending this idiocy is so absolutely necessary to preserve our Republic despite the mainstream media’s best effort to hide the truth.

Trump needs to seize the initiative from Leaky Bob. You know, I keep hearing how Mueller was this squared-away Marine officer, but through these incessant leaks his organization demonstrates a complete lack of both integrity and discipline. Mueller seems unwilling or unable to exercise any kind of leadership over his team of Hillary donors, or to instill a culture of seriousness and impartiality. The continuing misconduct of his out-of-control, ever-expanding fiefdom demonstrates that he must be relieved of command. And here’s the letter the president should send to him to set the stage to do it....

Huh, maybe Trump should name Schlichter as attorney general. He is a lawyer and an Army cavalry Colonel. Colonels get promoted to general all the time.

BTW: IBD also argues that Mueller's decision to grant himself additional jurisdiction -- and go outside his appointed ambit to search for whatever financial irregularities he can find -- is an automatic firing offense and should be treated as exactly that.