Sunday Morning Book Thread 11-06-2016 [OregonMuse]

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Library of 'Ette All Hail Eris

Good morning to all of you morons and moronettes and bartenders everywhere and all the ships at sea. Welcome to AoSHQ's stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like tornados, hurricanes, IRS audits, and having wikileaks dump your emails into the public domain a week before the election, and special snowflakes can't stand the heat. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these hideous monstrosities. And I hope a whole bunch of man cards were revoked after this photo was taken.


The Bible: Graphic Novel Edition

I don't think there's anything new about "cartoon" depictions of Bible stories, but perhaps not this comprehensively done:

It's an adaptation of the Bible Jesus probably never envisioned, and one most people have never seen before: Bible as comic book.

Christian publisher Kingstone recently released a 2,000-page graphic novel adaptation of the Old and New Testaments, which it claims is the world's longest graphic novel.

It took 45 illustrators seven years to produce the 2,000 page-12 paperback volume "Kingstone Bible," which the publisher calls "the most complete graphic-novel adaptation of the Bible ever published."

The Kingstone Bible Vol. 1 is the first of 12 volumes running from Genesis to Revelation.

I have mixed feelings about this. I believe that the spoken word and words written down are a much more complex, subtle, and rich form of communication than visual images. You can always adapt movies into books, but the other way around is a lot more difficult, and with some books, it simply can't be done. So I worry that something essential is going to get lost in such graphical adaptations. Not that the Christian faith is bereft of visual representations of truth, but it seems to me that God chose a vehicle to carry His thoughts and intentions to His children that is primarily verbal.

So that's my opinion, which you can take down to Starbucks along with $3.50 and get yourself a cup of coffee.

The guys who put out the Kingstone Bible are Christians, but that's not necessarily a requirement. Here is The Book of Genesis Illustrated by legendary cartoonist Robert Crumb. If you're old enough, like me, to remember the 60s hippie era, you will no doubt be familiar with Zap Comix, much of which was drawn by Mr. Crumb. He's known for a number of other things, too, like those Keep on Truckin' cartoon drawings and also Mr. Natural. Crumb is also not shy about drawing what basically amounts to X-rated, hard-core pr0n, so you might want to be careful if you're going to be searching around for samples of his work.

Which is why my reaction to hearing that Crumb had drawn a graphic version of the Book of Genesis was "oh great, he's going to vandalize it", but in his intro (which is in the Kindle sample download), he says he played it straight, with no ridicule or visual jokes, And he even mentions that every other graphical versions of the Bible he's seen contains passages of "completely made-up narrative and dialogue", and that he avoided doing this. His intention, he says, was to draw the Book of Genesis as it is, all 50 chapters, with nothing left out. And this "nothing left out" part is most likely why there's an "adult supervision recommended for minors" warning label on the front cover. Genesis, as the rest of the Bible, does not cover up or soft sell sinful behavior.

I haven't decided whether I want to read this one or not. I don't know if it's any good, other than it was nominated for three 2010 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards: Best Adaptation from Another Work, Best Graphic Album, and Best Writer/Artist.

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Library of All Hail Eris, Military History Section
Figure At Right: Gen. E. Rommel


Cubs Win!

So just for grins, I searched the Amazon book section for "Chicago Cubs" to see what it would come up with. The first item was 100 Things Cubs Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die, wherein chapter 1 is entitled "Watch the Cubs Win the World Series." Of course, fans may now cross this one off the list.

More than a look at the century-long wait for another World Series win, the book contains crucial information for Cubs fans, such as important dates, player nicknames, memorable moments, and outstanding achievements by singular players. This guide to all things Cubs also includes a list of must-do Cubs-related activities, which include taking in Wrigley field, traveling to Arizona for spring training, and sipping beers at the best Cubs bars around the country.

Pro tip: according to this book, you can get away without having to pay for parking at Wrigley Field. What you do is park on the street near Irving Park Road and then take the Red Line to the game. Book claims it's cheaper, faster, and perfectly safe. Never having been there, I have no idea whether this information is accurate.

Also, the first no-hitter at Wrigley Field was thrown by Fred Toney of Cincinnati on May 2nd, 1917. This game is also famous for another reason. The Cubs' pitcher, Hippo Vaughn, also didn't allow a hit for 9 innings, but then he faltered in the 10th. That must have been an incredible game to watch.

I was surprised at the number of books written about Wrigley Field. The first one that came up is A Nice Little Place on the North Side: A History of Triumph, Mostly Defeat, and Incurable Hope at Wrigley Field by George Will (stop laughing).

Winding beautifully like Wrigley’s iconic ivy, Will’s meditation on “The Friendly Confines” examines both the unforgettable stories that forged the field’s legend and the larger-than-life characters—from Wrigley and Ruth to Veeck, Durocher, and Banks—who brought it glory, heartbreak, and scandal. Drawing upon his trademark knowledge and inimitable sense of humor, Will also explores his childhood connections to the team, the Cubs’ future, and what keeps long-suffering fans rooting for the home team after so many years of futility.

It sounds like George Will didn't really write a book about Wrigley Field so much as he wrote a book about George Will.

Chicago Cubs fans can get their children started early with the Chicago Cubs ABC (My First Alphabet Book). So Iguess it's 'E' is for Ernie, 'R' is for Ron...

Lastly, it wouldn't be baseball without a pile of statistics, so with that in mind, there's Cubs by the Numbers: A Complete Team History of the Chicago Cubs by Uniform Number. It goes through each Cubs uniform number detailing who wore it and when:

Since the Chicago Cubs first adopted uniform numbers in 1932, the team has handed out only 77 numbers to more than 1,500 players. That’s a lot of overlap. It also makes for a lot of good stories. Newly updated, Cubs by the Numbers tells those stories for every Cub since ’32, from current staff ace Jake Arrieta to former third baseman turned division-winning manager Don Zimmer. This book lists the players alphabetically and by number; these biographies help trace the history of baseball’s most beloved team in a new way.


Crank Out A Bestseller This Month

Just in time for National Novel Writing Month, a longtime lurking moron recommends The Bestseller Code: Anatomy of the Blockbuster Novel:

The book's authors use an algorithm and a computer to figure out if there is something in the DNA of bestseller - why are 50 Shades of Grey and The Davinci Code the best-selling books of the last x amount of years (not counting Harry Potter)? They fed something like 5,000 books into their machine to see if their theory works, and yes, it works.

The book has answers, including what topics and themes sell and which ones don't. If you're a committed writer who's had little to no success selling your novels, this is the rare book about the subject I consider must-read. I think a lot of the writers who visit the book thread would appreciate this one.

A number of the Amazon reviewers say this isn't really a how-to manual as such, it just gives you a bunch of data concerning what works and what doesn't. However, I am a bit skeptical as even though you can come up with algorithms that explain past success, whether they can be used to predict future performance is uncertain. Climate models and economic forecasting models also suffer from this defect. It would be great if there were testimonials from some authors, such as "I took my crap novel and revised it according to the data and republished it, and now I have Donald Trump chauffeuring me around in my Rolls Royce and I'm blowing my nose with $100 bills." Something like this would boost the credibility of this book immensely.

Of course, if this works, and everybody starts doing it, then you run into the phenomenon where the "natural" data your algorithm depends upon to work gets contaminated with the results of your algorithm, thus skewing future statistical analyses. But that's another issue entirely.


This Year's Bestseller


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(h/t @ThePoliticalHat)


Easy Quiz

If you want to boost your ego a bit, try this literary quiz. I mean, who wrote Moby Dick? Come on...


Moron Recommendations


'Ette All Hail Eris recommends Eric Mexatas' book If You Can Keep It: The Forgotten Promise of American Liberty, which she says is about

...what unites us philosophically as a people. His chapter on George Whitefield alone is worth the time. An astounding 80% of colonists are thought to have heard him preach over his many years and miles travelling about the country.

That's amazing, I never knew that about Whitefield. The Amazon blurb says that this book

...is at once a thrilling review of America's uniqueness—including our role as a "nation of nations"—and a chilling reminder that America's greatness cannot continue unless we embrace our own crucial role in living out what the founders entrusted to us. Metaxas explains that America is not a nation bounded by ethnic identity or geography, but rather by a radical and unprecedented idea, based on liberty and freedom for all. He cautions us that it's nearly past time we reconnect to that idea, or we may lose the very foundation of what made us exceptional in the first place.

I always wonder if future historians will marvel at how strange it is that, in the opening decade of the 21st century, there was a man who, from his earliest days, was surrounded by, taught by, mentored by, and befriended by men who despised the very idea of America and American supremacy, and who were actively working to undermine it, and that this man, who by his own admission had more sympathy for 3rd world revolutionary and "liberation" movements than anything given to him by traditional American values, was elected to the office of president of the United States, and that not once, but twice. And that his election was hailed as a tremendous achievement.

I have to think that these future historians are going to be scratching their heads and thinking, "WTF?"


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 09:55 AM (sWbjH)

2 Have moved to John Rino now and re-reading ther Legacy of Aldanada Series (Poslene invasion)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 09:56 AM (mpXpK)

3 Eris need a roommate or a librarian?

Still reading Desolation Island by Patrick O'Brian, its good when I can get to reading it.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (sWbjH)

4 Howdy all. Happy Sunday. Beautiful weather. Hope you enjoyed your "extra" hour.

Posted by: Beth M at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (kiy9d)

5 The green chair is facing the wall.

The green chair is facing the wall.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (4ErVI)

6 I'm (in)famous!

Sorry for the dust. I didn't know I'd be getting visitors.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (EnKk6)

7 I see she has Beethoven hiding down there between the bookcases. Are those puppets up on the bookcase tops?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (mpXpK)

8 Also, the first no-hitter at Wrigley Field was thrown by Fred Toney of
Cincinnati on May 2nd, 2017. This game is also famous for another
reason. The Cubs' pitcher, Hippo Vaughn, also didn't allow a hit for 9
innings, but then he faltered in the 10th. That must have been an
incredible game to watch.


So next year then. I'll have to get tickets. Should be a good game

Posted by: Bruce at November 06, 2016 09:58 AM (8ikIW)

9 Very nice library, Eris! Thanks for a great thread, Oregon Muse. You bring it every Sunday. You rock.


Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 06, 2016 09:59 AM (VnCI9)

10 I can remember seeing bible story comic books as a kid where they would do a short story like David and Goliath, so it is not something that is a new thing.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 09:59 AM (mpXpK)

11 Ha! Didn't notice the Beethoven bust.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 09:59 AM (qVka1)

12 I've always thought a great comedy could be written from Jesus and his disciples. Not to say he rolled his eyes at them a lot, but he probably did.

Posted by: Beth M at November 06, 2016 10:00 AM (kiy9d)

13 Hey OM, a number of months ago you wrote about a book called "Chicken Every Sunday", about a woman growing up in Tucson and her mom running a boarding house there. Since I grew up in Tucson, I wound up buying the book and enjoying it very much.

Funny thing I found out on Friday. I was checking the listings for films on TCM and there it was listed. Did you know they had made it into a movie? 1949. I recorded it but haven't watched it yet. It stars Dan Daily and Celeste Holmes.

Posted by: HH at November 06, 2016 10:01 AM (DrCtv)

14 I am now on book 4 of the Aubrey-Maturin series "The Mauritius Command" and still amazed at the quality of the writing.

BTW, I think Eris has another library with even more books, but she didn't want to make us jealous!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2016 10:02 AM (wCEn4)

15 Funny thing I found out on Friday. I was checking the listings for films on TCM and there it was listed. Did you know they had made it into a movie? 1949. I recorded it but haven't watched it yet. It stars Dan Daily and Celeste Holmes.

Posted by: HH at November 06, 2016 10:01 AM (DrCtv)


Yeah, I did. Haven't seen it, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 10:02 AM (qVka1)

16 I think the Harry Potter series sold so well because it treated kids better without looking down its nose as them. And it filled a genre that had not been addressed before very well. And it sure made the author rich didn't it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:04 AM (mpXpK)

17 Love that Scankles cover.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:04 AM (mpXpK)

18 Figure At Right: Gen. E. Rommel
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At first glance, seeing knee socks and Bermuda shorts, I assumed that it was an Air Force guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (7H/2n)

19 I see she has Beethoven hiding down there between the bookcases. Are those puppets up on the bookcase tops?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 09:57 AM (mpXpK)
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I got the Beethoven bust for Christmas as a kid (I loved the Karajan recordings - nerd alert!) and have been carting him around ever since. He's usually on a bookcase, glowering, but I've run out of room. As you may have noticed.

The Balinese puppets I got locally years ago. They remind me of all the Indonesian and Southeast Asian gewgaws and gimcrackery Dad had around our old house.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (EnKk6)

20 At first glance, seeing knee socks and Bermuda shorts, I assumed that it was an Air Force guy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (7H/2n)
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He's not holding a briefcase and putter. Duh.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:06 AM (EnKk6)

21 Egad those pants are gayer than a SanFran Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:07 AM (BO/km)

22 May I say that Eris' library looks exactly as I thought it would, right down to the candelabrum with orange candles.

Great post, as always, OMuse. Not sure I could bring myself to read a graphic novel Bible myself, but then again I am a traditionalist by nature.

Posted by: bluebell at November 06, 2016 10:08 AM (uHcnA)

23 I'm picturing those crochet shorts on that mini-Rommel.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:09 AM (BO/km)

24 Afrika Korps and the Limeys both wore those gay shorts.I don't think I would want to wear shorts with scorpions around in any case.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2016 10:10 AM (r/0kC)

25 Good morning my fellow Book People. I made a discovery. I don't like cook books on e-readers. Paper versions only. That said, I have a book of Normandy recipes coming soon. nd later today I'm getting a few Ina Garten "Barefoot Contessa" cookbooks from the library. People on the food thread all seem to like them, so time to give them a look.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:11 AM (V+03K)

26 Good morning! Re-reading Life Unworthy, but I got busy this week.

I went to the library yesterday to get some books on cd, since I am now driving an hour and 15 minutes each way to work. I'll see if I like letting someone else read to me. I'm starting with Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston, which I've been meaning to read for 3 decades.

Posted by: April at November 06, 2016 10:11 AM (e8PP1)

27 For surrealism see the documentary re: Robert Crumb titled oddly enough 'Crumb'. He found hippies bogus & was counter counter culture. Crumb shows up in American Splendor as an old friend of Harvey Pekar.

Posted by: That's the way the Cookie at November 06, 2016 10:11 AM (o9vm9)

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18 Figure At Right: Gen. E. Rommel
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At first glance, seeing knee socks and Bermuda shorts, I assumed that it was an Air Force guy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (7H/2n)

Bronx cheer.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 06, 2016 10:11 AM (EX0ma)

29 I've been reading the Living Bible since 1972. I probably couldn't understand the King James version today.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 10:12 AM (bDzJM)

30 Nice collection, Eris ... I ought to take some more pictures of my own library - but it is scattered on tall bookshelves all over the house, and one long wall in the hallway is lined with paperbacks.

Not much reading for me this week - trying to finish the final touches on "The Golden Road" - that picaresque gold rush adventure I have been promising for the last three years only that I got distracted by other book projects. Now the hang-up is that my brother the graphic artist has mangled his back so that he can't sit at a computer for very long, and broken his wrist so he can't draw ... so the cover for the print edition is hung up indefinitely. I'm going to put the ebook out there, with a rough placeholder cover, next week - just so that I can check off the Golden Road project.

No, not going to another artist - Little Bro has a very nice, distinctive look for my book covers, and I'd rather wait for him to recover.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 06, 2016 10:13 AM (xnmPy)

31 I have long suspected that the British Empire was doomed once their soldiers appeared in public wearing shorts. They conquered half of Asia and Africa wearing itchy wool uniforms.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:13 AM (VIbVa)

32 JTB, I'm with you on the paper cookbook thing. Plus I get a built-in rating system - the recipes I use most often are covered with splatters. Yes, I'm a Julia Child-type cook.

You'll like Ina Garten, I think.

April, I'll bet you like the books on CD. We used them extensively on cross-country driving trips with our kids and all of us would get hooked on the story.

Posted by: bluebell at November 06, 2016 10:13 AM (uHcnA)

33 One of the things that was interesting in Robinson Crusoe was the attitude towards slavery.

On one of his earlier voyages Crusoe was captured by Moors and made a slave. Narurally he considers it a great misfortune, though treated relatively well, and escapes as soon as he can. Later he owns slaves in Brazil and treats that as a simple business decision. There isn't any racial animosity involved, it seems to be a matter of those with wealth and power tending to enslave those with out.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 10:14 AM (GDulk)

34 19 I got the Beethoven bust for Christmas as a kid (I
loved the Karajan recordings - nerd alert!) and have been carting him
around ever since. He's usually on a bookcase, glowering, but I've run
out of room. As you may have noticed.



The Balinese puppets I got locally years ago. They remind me of all
the Indonesian and Southeast Asian gewgaws and gimcrackery Dad had
around our old house.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (EnKk6)

I have that same set as a "boxed set". Cost me a fortune so I only played them one time and recorded them as I played them. We have some hand made dolls similar to those puppets on our book case. Her dad got them in AK when he was in the AF.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

35 21 Egad those pants are gayer than a SanFran Sunday afternoon.
Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:07 AM (BO/km)

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*adjusts self slyly while no one is looking*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 06, 2016 10:16 AM (EZebt)

36 I have a library copy of "If You Can Keep It" in the stack. But I'm taking a break from serious stuff until after the election. It does sound interesting, informative, and potentially infuriating.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:17 AM (V+03K)

37 I just finished reading Mike Duncan's History of Rome, volume 1 (the Republic). It's basically his podcast series on paper. Fortunately it was a good podcast series, so it's an entertaining read. The book does look a bit . . . self-published. Many typos, bland cover, competent but not great layout and design. So: A for content, B- for physical presentation, average to B+.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:17 AM (VIbVa)

38 What’s great about reading the chapter on Whitefield is realizing just how eerily familiar it all sounds. Preaching to anyone who would listen, regardless of class or position or race, inside or out of doors, was just so vulgar and déclassé. In Bristol were poor colliers who had no church to go to, and Whitefield pitied them. Most had never been to church in their lives. They were so overcome by his words of hope that “white gutters (were) made by their tears, which plentifully fell down their black cheeks, as they came out of their coal pits.”

I love Metaxas’ turn of phrase: “Some Church of England pulpits preached a withering, pinched sort of castor oil moralism, while others preached a comforting and soapy lukewarm Deism which was essentially nothing more than French Enlightenment rationalism. But Whitefield knew that these counterfeits had left many longing for the truth and the freedom of the Gospel… Many felt the Church of England was little more than an extension of the Crown, a glowering authority with a vested interest in keeping everyone out of mischief, and with a captive audience that couldn’t choose to go elsewhere. Whitefield’s egalitarianism and emotional messages must have seemed as though Dionysus himself had arrived and was cavorting with his maenads through their congregations.”

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:18 AM (EnKk6)

39 From the titles I can read, the military history section seems to be heavy on the Afrika Korps and Gen. Rommel. That's OK, I understand the fascination. He did a lot with comparatively little.

Pre-interwebs, it took me years to track down a copy of his book, Infantry Attacks. It's been quite a while since I have read it, but the book is about his exploits as an infantry battalion commander fighting the Italians in WWI (if I recall correctly).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 06, 2016 10:18 AM (5Yee7)

40 My kids loved the Action Bible, another graphic interpretation.

Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2016 10:19 AM (2RVmA)

41 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:05 AM (EnKk6)

Sounds like your dad was the American version of the Indian Colonel character in Agatha Christie and other novels set between the World Wars.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 10:19 AM (GDulk)

42 Can anyone recommend a good book on the run-up to the American Revolution? The period between the Seven Years' War and the outbreak of actual fighting?

I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized the rebels were right from the beginning. The Boston Tea Party wasn't some random riot, it was a planned operation. And by that point all the colonies had their own revolutionary cells. Who organized all that?

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:21 AM (VIbVa)

43 "Pro tip: according to this book, you can get away without having to pay for parking at Wrigley Field. What you do is park on the street near Irving Park Road and then take the Red Line to the game. Book claims it's cheaper, faster, and perfectly safe. Never having been there, I have no idea whether this information is accurate."
Yes and no, yes that neighborhood is pretty safe during the day, no in that you need a bit of good luck in finding parking in that neighborhood.

Posted by: Craig at November 06, 2016 10:22 AM (5Nlg3)

44 For those who listen to books while driving, here's a warning. Don't listen to Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame). I made that mistake once. Started laughing so hard the car was swerving all over the Ohio Turnpike. For safety's sake, I switched to a Nero Wolfe story.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:23 AM (V+03K)

45 Nice library, Eris. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: JT at November 06, 2016 10:24 AM (EoB6c)

46 Sorry for the dust. I didn't know I'd be getting visitors.

In that negligee, no one is going to notice the housekeeping.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 10:25 AM (mgbwf)

47 I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized the rebels were
right from the beginning. The Boston Tea Party wasn't some random riot,
it was a planned operation. And by that point all the colonies had their
own revolutionary cells. Who organized all that?


David Hackett Fischer, Paul Revere's Ride, has a bunch of info on how they organized, at least in the Boston area.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 06, 2016 10:25 AM (bZ7mE)

48 Currently reading "You deplorable scum will obey me!" It reminds me of "Mein Kampf." The author is going by an obvious pseudonym HC Knowbetter.

Posted by: DC deninzen at November 06, 2016 10:26 AM (t4kE6)

49 The never ending election news, heavy on BS and insulting attempts at manipulation, is just so damn tiresome. The excitement of this fantastic World Series was a fine distraction but it's over. I don't want conflict, even in fiction, so LOTR can wait for a week or two. I want to deal with something(s) that are simple, productive, even contemplative. That's why I've been reading about basic hand tools.

There is something calming to me about fiber arts. It's not like I do any of them. I believe it's interest in such simple tools able to produce such important, or decorative, items. I've been reading a couple of books about drop spindles used to spin fibers into thread and yarn. They are a stick with an attached weighted disk and a notch. That's it. Yet they create the material needed that allows people to survive the elements and protect themselves while working. It might be the light linen clothing of ancient Egypt, a fisherman's sweater so he doesn't freeze hauling a net in the north Atlantic, or a blanket that comforts a baby in a crib. Two books: "Spinning In The Old Way" and "Respect The Spindle" have been good introductions to their history and use.

Knitting needles and crochet hooks fall into the same category. You can't get much more basic than a couple of shaped sticks. Yet the variations of what they can produce are staggering. (Glad I didn't have to develop the techniques or we would all be in the rawhide and tree bark era of clothing.)

I've also been reading books and magazine articles about whittling and chip carving, projects you can do with a single knife. Most of this is inconsequential but fun. The projects go from a toy horse a kid can play with, stylized figures, wooden chains and ball-in-a-cage whimmsies, and decoration that makes every day objects personal and special. All that's needed is a piece of wood, a sharp knife, and taking the time to do something with them. I find whittling and chip carving completely absorbing and relaxing. If I did spinning or knitting, I suspect the reaction would be the same.

Part of the appeal of these things is the hand work and the satisfaction that comes from producing items yourself. And while the tools are simple, the learning and skill to use them require some effort and patience. The point is not to possess an item but to create it. The process is like putting up a shield against the constant din and distress of the news.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:27 AM (V+03K)

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Can anyone recommend a good book on the run-up to the American
Revolution? The period between the Seven Years' War and the outbreak of
actual fighting?



I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized the rebels were
right from the beginning. The Boston Tea Party wasn't some random riot,
it was a planned operation. And by that point all the colonies had
their own revolutionary cells. Who organized all that?

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:21 AM (VIbVa)

There are literally thousands out there and most of them are good. But the one that has garnered a lot of praise more recently is 1776 by David McCullough

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:27 AM (mpXpK)

51 Book thread!

Reading Masters of the Air by Donald Miller about the Eighth Air Force in Europe. To show just what a prick John Kenneth Galbraith - glamour boy of the Kennedy Administration - was, there's this:

"Galbraith's distain for the military extended, apparently, ordinary GI's. On a flight back to the States in the summer of 1945, 'a much decorated sergeant shared a seat with me and asked if I would like to hear of his war adventures," Galbraith related in his memoirs. 'I told him I would not. He made several attempts at conversation, which I rejected. Finally he asked me who I thought would win the World Series. I asked him what leagues were playing that year.'"

The poor, anonymous sergeant Galbraith was scoring points off underwent harrowing experiences in the skies over Germany. Galbraith, of course, fought the war in the OPA, then the Strategic Bombing Survey, then went on to a professorship at the Fool Factory. He died venerated despite being wrong about absolutely everything.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 06, 2016 10:28 AM (J8/9G)

52 Good morning, Horde!

OM, as an artist myself, I'm intrigued by the graphic adaptation of the Bible. In my case, I grew up reading Classics Illustrated and Marvels 1970's adaptations of classic books. Some were good, some weren't, but they made me seek out many of the original books to read. So, for some, it might be a stepping stone to reading the Bible more.

As for reading books with actual words: I finished "Death By Cliche" by Bob Defendi, a very funny book about a game designer who somehow gets trapped in a rival designer's cliche-ridden game scenario...or, as the author himself puts it, "a heartwarming tale of catastrophic brain damage". Defendi tries very hard to channel Douglas Adams, but he did it well enough to make me laugh out loud many times.

https://is.gd/dCGAfH

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 06, 2016 10:29 AM (rJUlF)

53 I highly approve of Eris's library and decorating scheme. Balinese puppets, a whole shelf of Rommel, and a pirate robot poster! The bookcase full of old crufty books is also familiar to me. Why did we stop doing the embossed-and-gilt style covers? They spell "wondrous things" to me...

There is a tiny library in a little town in Maine. It is made of brick with millstones embedded in the wall, and looks like it might be an old pumphouse or utility shed, it is so small. *But*, it received a bequest from a wealthy woman many years ago--her library. She was the sort who subscribed to the limited edition, hand-colored plates, leather-bound collections in the late 1800's-early 1900's. And you could CHECK THEM OUT. Nobody had read them before I got to them, which is a travesty. I could tell because I had to cut the folded signatures. Pretty sure they had a first edition Mark Twain, too. Read the collected letters of Elizabeth Barrett and Robert Browning that way. I love, love LOVE old books....

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 06, 2016 10:29 AM (SuJIo)

54 I am listening to a recording of I Shot the Buddha by Colin Cotteril. A new author for me, and a devilishly fascinating plot, plus a look at 1970s Laos, as seen through the eyes of a retired coroner, Siri Paiboun and his wife, Madam Daeng. Despite the serious theme of three old, interlocking murders, the book is slyly hilarious. Apparently this is no. 11 in a series. Anyone else familiar with the author? This volume certainly makes me hungry for more.

Posted by: Alifa at November 06, 2016 10:30 AM (M5tMF)

55 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 06, 2016 10:18 AM (5Yee7)
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That's just one shelf, there's plenty more on Medieval, WWI, and what have you. That one is just for laffs, as though Erwin were surveying the expanse and thinking "Ja, those were good times", and chuckling to himself about the red-faced logistics guys.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:30 AM (EnKk6)

56 I plan on tuning out on Tuesday and Listening to Hard Luck Hank, the books make me laugh and I do enjoy that the Books are read AS Hank which to me makes the Audiobook better.


Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:31 AM (dKiJG)

57 Good Morning, Pants-Wearers. I've just started reading Colin Smith's "England's Last War Against France: Fighting Vichy 1940-1942." So far very good. I love histories about near-forgotten wars & theatres of wars, like WWII in colonial Africa & the Mid-East.

Posted by: josephistan at November 06, 2016 10:32 AM (7qAYi)

58 Can anyone recommend a good book on the run-up to the American Revolution? ....
I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized the rebels were right from the beginning. ....Who organized all that?

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:21 AM (VIbVa)


I would recommend Revolutionary Brotherhood by Steven C. Bullock. It is a scholarly examination of how Freemasonry influenced the development of the American ideal concerning the relationship of citizens to their government. While it would be a gross over-statement to say the Freemasons caused the American Revolution, Freemasonry was extremely important to many officers in the Continental Army.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 06, 2016 10:34 AM (5Yee7)

59 Off topic, illegal as hell, but, message for Grammie. Willowed.

CUBS SUSPENDERS FOR SALE

http://www.suspenderstore.com/baseball-cubs-clip-suspenders.html

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 10:34 AM (H5rtT)

60 CUBS SUSPENDERS FOR SALE

Not all of us are wearing pants.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:35 AM (EnKk6)

61 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:21 AM (VIbVa)

I love historic timelines . I look them up all the time ( internet is awesome) . You may be interested in the Pre Revolution time line to guide you to individual stories to the run up to the Revolution.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 10:36 AM (bDzJM)

62 As far as comic book Bibles go, deplorable conservative Christian Billy Tucci recently adapted & illustrated the Nativity narrative into a beautiful graphic novel "A Child is Born." He's a super-nice guy, spent a good time chatting with me at a convention about history & airplanes.

Posted by: josephistan at November 06, 2016 10:36 AM (7qAYi)

63 60
CUBS SUSPENDERS FOR SALE



Not all of us are wearing pants.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:35 AM (EnKk6)

Anthony Weiner is shouting obsenities when he found out he was unable to access the interwebs to buy these suspenders during his horseback riding lessons - I mean his sex addiction counselling.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 06, 2016 10:37 AM (waSFb)

64 53 Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 06, 2016 10:29 AM (SuJIo)


A few years ago I was perusing the list of history books covering the old South at our library. They had a couple listed that were 1930s vintage reprints of books written by southern authors in the late 1800s regarding the civil war and SC. What surprised me is that they were available for checkout so I went to get them. They were not on the shelf so I asked the librarian if they had been moved to the back storage. She checked the computer and said no they were supposed to be on the shelf. Someone had stolen them. They had long been out of print so they will never be available again.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:38 AM (mpXpK)

65 Haha, thanks for the tip, JTB. I should probably also stay away from weepers.

Posted by: April at November 06, 2016 10:38 AM (e8PP1)

66 R. Crumb is a great Kafka illustrator.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 06, 2016 10:38 AM (8nOil)

67 what's bizarre about clinton blaming the russians and tying them to trump is that she, her foundation and closest associates (podesta) have much deeper and involved relationships, including financial dealings, with the russkies.

of course, it's also curious to slam trump for sex abuse when she's bringing bill back to the white house.

it goes on and on, stuff like that.

p.s., anyone see the tape of obama encouraging illegal residents (non citizens) to vote over at drudge? unreal.

pps. fuck rommel.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 10:39 AM (WTSFk)

68 Something for JTB,

http://tinyurl.com/jfqucqr

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 06, 2016 10:40 AM (x3uSY)

69 Just started Eroca Metaxas' book on Dietrich Bonhoffer, so now I need to add another of his to my reading list! Thanks ALH and OM.


A few years ago my young son was spouting some 9/11 Truther nonsense and decided to get him the 9/11 report to stop that crazy talk - and discovered there is a graphic novelized version of the report. It worked. So, if a graphic novelization of the Bible is a gateway to faith, I'm not going to mock it...


Posted by: Lizzy at November 06, 2016 10:40 AM (NOIQH)

70
When we started having kiddos, the well-read and lovely Mrs Woodard and I bought a semi-thick young chld's illustrated version of the Bible.

The "stories" were 2-4 pages long, highly simplified and cutely illustrated.

The interesting thing is that except for our youngest child, none of the others was really taken with the Kiddie Bible.

But, our youngest, that was his favorite and he requested it every night before bed for about 2 years.

And though the stories were written to be more or less self-contained, he would ask questions linking them together as part of God's overall "arc of the story".

Now, this isn't a particularly religious story, nor is he a spectacularly religious kid.

However, he is our most voracious reader.

i believe it was that early exposure to a child's level Bible that opened his mind to the beauty of the stories and the concept of God's overall "arc of the story" within,

brought him a deeper understanding of reading itself and the world at large. He exhibits far more maturity than did his siblings at the same ages.

So, think it's a bit of a mistake to poo-poo the idea of a cartoon or bowdlerized for kiddos (or the uneducated) version of the Bible.

Even in those forms, a lot of the power can still come through.

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part Four: The Black Room" at November 06, 2016 10:41 AM (9q7Dl)

71 I have long suspected that the British Empire was
doomed once their soldiers appeared in public wearing shorts. They
conquered half of Asia and Africa wearing itchy wool uniforms.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:13 AM (VIbVa)


There is a scene in (?) Galipoli where a Brit officer instructs the Aussie Sergeants that the Australian troops have been down on some RR beach in shorts and this is not appropriate, and that henceforth that shorts will not be worn on the beach.

The next scene is Aussie troops wandering around on the beach naked from the waist down.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2016 10:41 AM (u8ofW)

72 I got THE LION'S GATE by Steven Pressfield, it's about the six day war, I really like his first book The Gates Of Fire about the 300 Spartans. The Lion's Gate has some good reviews so we shall see, I have been amazed at the Israeli military at how they over came incredible odds.

We go to Soccer games and the people in front of us are from Isreal and we got to know his nephew who is now in the Israeli army.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:42 AM (dKiJG)

73 Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:27 AM (V+03K)

Realizing that the sails of Viking ships were woven from yarn made with a weighted stick is mind-boggling to me. That, for any piece of clothing the thread to sew it had to be spun as well as the yarn to be woven, makes it very reasonable that for *centuries* the average person only had one or two sets of clothes.

I still have (but rarely use) the spindle my dad made me when I was 12, but I love my flyer wheels for actual use (and even use an electric spinner for plying) and *really* love being able to buy new clothes made by someone else easily and inexpensively.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 10:42 AM (GDulk)

74 I am reading "How to be Holy" by Peter Kreeft who is a philosophy professor at Boston University. I got a CD of a lecture on why you should be Catholic and in the Q&A at the end of the lecture, he said the BU theology department is not a good place. BU is, of course, a nominally Catholic university. And my local Catholic college keeps inviting pro-abortion speaker, just so they can hear the other side, of course.

I started "The Girl on the Train" which is, so far, sad and interesting. The protagonist is working on becoming an alcoholic since her divorce, so very sad.

Still reading the book on the OJ Simpson murder of Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman. OJ just arrested and case is almost entirely in the hands of Marcia Clarke so it can be blown to hell.

Now back to reading so I can buy more books I will not have time to read in my lifetime.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 10:43 AM (uAU0q)

75
As a child, I remember Bible stories in comic book form like the classics comic books. They were for children and youths. I'm sure they were not intended for deep seminary Bible study. However, I am sure there are theologens and other thumpers that will take deep umbrage at the thought of anyone learning about religion through a comic book. There were then, and I'm sure they are still with us.

Posted by: Old Country Boy at November 06, 2016 10:43 AM (H2VXv)

76 Eris:

I don't see a copy of Pressfield's "Killing Rommel".

Which is more about the Long Range Desert Group in North Africa, than Rommel.

And like all of Pressfield (except that dipshit golf book), one of my absolute favorite historical fiction authors.

Posted by: retropox at November 06, 2016 10:45 AM (akaro)

77 As a kid I had a big illustrated Children's Bible. Lots of color pictures and side notes explaining what was going on. What's wrong with that if it encourages kids to read?

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:46 AM (BO/km)

78 I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized
the rebels were right from the beginning. The Boston Tea Party wasn't
some random riot, it was a planned operation. And by that point all the
colonies had their own revolutionary cells. Who organized all that?
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 10:21 AM (VIbVa)


My understanding was that the Boston Tea Party was a local Masonic Lodge thing. Maybe not sanctioned by the local lodge, but the lodge was the nucleus. There were two threads woven into the organization of the rebellion and the governance, one was the various Masonic Lodges and the other was the Committees of Correspondence.
This was gleaned from various sources, sorry, no book that deals with this specifically but if you find one I will read it.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (u8ofW)

79 the story of the making of the king james bible is interesting, a miracle in itself. there were fits and starts (and people burned) along the way to a vernacular english bible. well worth a thread on its own.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (WTSFk)

80
Nobody puts Rommel on the shelf!!!

Hey....WTF!


Posted by: Rommel at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (9q7Dl)

81 "...by George Will (stop laughing)"

Will is a WELL-KNOWN baseball and Cubs fan....

Posted by: CrankyYankee at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (TwYBt)

82 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:42 AM (dKiJG)

Everything by Pressfield is great.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 10:48 AM (bDzJM)

83 Kafka once read a ZAP comix and went, like, Dude.

There were quite a few Illustrated Bibles back when Vic and I were young.
Mine was in black and white, but, quite vivid. CG DeMille once said all his scene-blocking was based on his memories of his family's illustrated Bible. Thinking, Maxfield Parrish?

I've been looking for a good one for a couple of decades now. It was a great one to throw at that door-to-door Bible salesman who shows up every couple years. I'm surprised it has taken so long for things to get rolling again.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 10:48 AM (H5rtT)

84 Still reading the book on the OJ Simpson murder of Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman. OJ just arrested and case is almost entirely in the hands of Marcia Clarke so it can be blown to hell.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 10:43 AM (uAU0q)


According to Clarke's own book on the OJ case, everything that went wrong was somebody else's fault. Always. She apparently did everything perfectly and never made a mistake.

Funny, that.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 10:48 AM (qVka1)

85 Posted by: Alifa at November 06, 2016 10:30 AM (M5tMF)

I got the first of that series 32 Teeth on a Kindle daily deal a while ago. It was very interesting as a mystery (and a fascinating look at trying to get by as a totalitarian regime tightens its hold) but I wasn't expecting a ghost story as well and I'm not fond of ghost stories so I don't know if I will read more.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 10:49 AM (GDulk)

86 "...by George Will (stop laughing)"
Will is a WELL-KNOWN baseball and Cubs fan....

Posted by: CrankyYankee at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (TwYBt)


I know. He's also a well-known putz.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 10:49 AM (qVka1)

87 I've also been enjoying collections of Kate Beaton's cartoons, which are often riffs on historical figures.

Our patron sinner, Tycho Brahe:

Brahe: What if the sun orbits the earth?
Kepler: What if the earth orbits the sun?
Brahe: What if your wive orbits my dick?

Here's an archive, sorted by personage:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/archive.php

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:49 AM (EnKk6)

88 Wife, not wive! Dammit!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 10:50 AM (EnKk6)

89
Still reading the book on the OJ Simpson murder of Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman. OJ just arrested and case is almost entirely in the hands of Marcia Clarke so it can be blown to hell.

Now back to reading so I can buy more books I will not have time to read in my lifetime.
Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 10:43 AM (uAU0q)

Get Mark Fuhrman's book about the OJ investigation, I thought it was really good

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:51 AM (dKiJG)

90 61: if you like timelines get the macmillan history of the world. it has just about everything.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 10:52 AM (WTSFk)

91 Candid shot of that doomed shorty-pantsed British Empire:
http://tinyurl.com/z6kkq8p

Whaddabunchasissys.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 10:52 AM (H5rtT)

92 Trimegestus, you also want to read about the French and Indian wars. It was like the Mexican American war was in relation to the American Civil war in getting a crop of leaders ready for the big fight.
The lessons learned in the French and Indian wars by the Colonial officers dictated how the Continental Army fought the British. And that I got from the American Military History 1607 - 1958 ROTC manual

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2016 10:52 AM (u8ofW)

93 86 "...by George Will (stop laughing)"
Will is a WELL-KNOWN baseball and Cubs fan....

Posted by: CrankyYankee at November 06, 2016 10:47 AM (TwYBt)

I know. He's also a well-known putz.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 10:49 AM (qVka1)



Excuse me, young man.

But, are you wearing dungarees?


It is well known that when insulting another individual the mature and civilized American male-

must be dressed in a suit, bowtie, and cufflinks.


To do otherwise is simply unacceptable in polite society.

Posted by: George Will at November 06, 2016 10:53 AM (9q7Dl)

94 Rommel on the shelf> Elf on the shelf.

Posted by: josephistan at November 06, 2016 10:53 AM (7qAYi)

95 84 According to Clarke's own book on the OJ case,
everything that went wrong was somebody else's fault. Always. She
apparently did everything perfectly and never made a mistake.

Funny, that.


Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 10:48 AM (qVka1)


I read a book on that case by Vincent Bugliosi years ago. He started out with the insane thing they did with holding the case in midtown LA instead of where the murders occurred at which resulted in a tainted jury. And it just went downhill from there. He scorched Marsha Clark and said OJ got away with murder.

He also did a good book on the Manson Murders.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 10:54 AM (mpXpK)

96 According to Clarke's own book on the OJ case, everything that went
wrong was somebody else's fault. Always. She apparently did everything
perfectly and never made a mistake.

Funny, that.


Isn't that also the story of Obama, oh, and SHillary too.

Posted by: Bruce at November 06, 2016 10:55 AM (8ikIW)

97 What a gyp! I assumed 'adult' coloring books would be x-rated.

Posted by: Patient Weiner at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (o9vm9)

98 68 ... THANK YOU for that link. Basic tools, ingenuity and skill combine for exquisite results. I've read about Japanese woodworking tools and techniques but lack the talent to get good results. But I could watch that video again and again (and the related ones) for the pleasure of seeing such workmanship.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (V+03K)

99 OK Rant time. As i research my grandfather's WWII exploits, one thing has struck me. A LOT of well-established books by well-established authors... get facts wrong. The smaller books by smaller authors focus on smaller events and thus they have specific details, generally well-documented and sourced. But when Antony Beevor and Charles MacDonald (whose works i highly respect and admire) have major (to me) facts wrong, i just hate it. I guess they are too "big picture," which is fine, but if that's the case, they shouldn't dive into small details... which they get wrong.

Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (YFnq5)

100 >>>America is not a nation bounded by ethnic identity

Um, yes it is. America is the largest Muslim nation in the world.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (dtWKK)

101 The LION'S GATE by Steven Pressfield is a nonfiction book.

The reviews on TIDES OF WAR seem very mixed so I skipped that book.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (dKiJG)

102 So, Eris, what are the figurines on the top shelf?

I don't recognize the tradition they come from, but they feel medieval.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 10:57 AM (mgbwf)

103 Russian hackers? The FAB had a SCIF (top secret material reading room) installed in her D.C. Townhouse. So, a) she definitely knew how to handle classified info. But b) didn't give a shit because part of her maids duty was to go into the scif and retrieve top secret documents from the secure fax that should never leave the room, let alone the room be accessed by a foreign national Filipino maid with no security clearance. But Trump lied about Obama scolding a heckler and said pussy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 06, 2016 10:57 AM (dnWSK)

104 To be fair, I thought the prosecution presented a slam dunk case . The celebrity obsessed judge and jury nullification doomed the truth.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 10:58 AM (bDzJM)

105 "Everyone I don't like is a Russian Hacker"


But I like Russian hackers. They do the job America's journalists won't do.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 10:58 AM (dtWKK)

106 Sorry for the semi-wall of words at 49. I'm doing essays as part of NaNo (hey, it worked for Ayn Rand) and the mode started to bleed through to the book thread comments.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:59 AM (V+03K)

107 Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:46 AM (BO/km)

My sister and I shared one of those and read it until it nearly fell apart. We also had comic book versions of "biographies of the faith" like God's Smuggler about Brother Andrew and one about a German girl in WWII who had joined Hitler's Youth and then was left with no anchor in a *terridying* world as the reich fell and the Russians poured in (I found the actual autobiography as an adult, and the comic hit all the main points at least).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 10:59 AM (GDulk)

108 @99 The entire detail history of the Battle of the Bulge has changed in the last 30 years. There was a long-running assumption (by Ike among others) that the entire North Shoulder action was a rout. It was All About Bastogne, for decades and decades. Having read a "complete" history of WWI published right after the War, I can attest that this is very much the pattern in military history. "The Victors" get it wrong, a lot.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 11:00 AM (H5rtT)

109
Trimegestus, you also want to read about the French and Indian wars.


I recommend Fred Anderson for F and I books. He has a short one and a long one, titled The War that Made America and The Crucible of War, IIRC. His monograph A People's Army is also worth reading (and not the Marxist screed you might expect from the title!)

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (bZ7mE)

110 Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (V+03K)
------------
JTB - are you familiar with Richard Proenneke? I'd recommend anyone who admires self sufficiency and making things with your own hands Google his name and check out the DVD's and books about him. Absolutely amazing guy.

Posted by: Weasel at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (Sfs6o)

111 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (dKiJG)

Tides Of War was one of my favorites for what it's worth.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (bDzJM)

112 I'm reading the third "Gather the Seekers" by Robert Milam.

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)-irredeemably, deplorable, sexist, islamaphobic, racist at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (JNDQi)

113 102
So, Eris, what are the figurines on the top shelf?



I don't recognize the tradition they come from, but they feel medieval.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 10:57 AM (mgbwf)

See #19

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (mpXpK)

114 104 To be fair, I thought the prosecution presented a slam dunk case . The celebrity obsessed judge and jury nullification doomed the truth.
Posted by: Sebastian M

As soon as they had OJ try on the glove they lost the case, that was responsible doubt. The prosecution F'd up the case.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 11:03 AM (dKiJG)

115 I want to see Robert Crumb's depiction of Joseph's technicolor dream cat.

Posted by: Fritz the Cat at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (dtWKK)

116 I'm about one-third through Rebel Yell, by S.C. Gwynne. It's a Stonewall Jackson bio and it's quite good, so far.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (Tyii7)

117 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 06, 2016 10:57 AM (dnWSK)
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I am like a pulsar of pissedoffedness about this. I work in a secure building in a SCIF and there are SCIFs within SCIFs to which I am not allowed access. I've worked in SCIFs on ships into which high-ranking officers were forbidden to step foot, and there were cordoned off areas of that SCIF that I could not enter.

And yet this foreign national maid can get access.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (EnKk6)

118 Every black I heard talk about that OJ case claimed he was framed. That was their excuse.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (mpXpK)

119 I have the R. Crumb "Genesis" book.
In fact, it is, as described, quite faithful to the scripture, and if there were to be license anywhere, I didn't see it.
Genesis does not require any enhancement.

Posted by: navybrat at November 06, 2016 11:05 AM (w7KSn)

120 See #19
Posted by: Vic



Ah. T'anks.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 11:05 AM (mgbwf)

121 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 11:03 AM (dKiJG)

Maybe for the retarded jurors but the prosecution had established the glove's origin from manufacturing to its purchase by Nicole as a gift for OJ. I agree though that they didn't need to have OJ try on the glove with the evidence they had already established.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 11:06 AM (bDzJM)

122 In case anyone misunderstood my comment where i said I wouldn't want to read the graphic novel version of the Bible, I was just stating my preference as an adult. I see absolutely nothing wrong with children's Bibles, cartoons, etc.

My favorite is the Golden Children's Bible, followed by Tomie DePaola's Book of Bible Stories. I can't tell you how many other such books we have. Those books were a huge part of our early homeschooling years for teaching the faith.





Posted by: bluebell at November 06, 2016 11:07 AM (uHcnA)

123 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 10:56 AM (dKiJG)

Tides Of War was one of my favorites for what it's worth.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (bDzJM)

I will add this to my list, A Morons review is worth more than an Amazon review.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 11:08 AM (dKiJG)

124 Speaking vaguely of Biblical stories-

a loooooooong time ago, I read a book titled, "Jesus Tales".

The author supposedly looked up several old to ancient apocryphal stories of Jesus, which did not make it into the Bible (or were written afterward) and adopted them for this book.

It got a big roll-out in TIME magazine if I'm remembering correctly. But, as you can imagine, didn't sell particularly well.

I remember it as kind of interesting and not particularly blasphemous, but it also seemed like the author was trying to work out some of his own problems more than tell a story.

Hmmmm.

I wonder if it's still around.


Okay, back again, amazon has it for $0.01 if that sounds like your kind of thing.

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part Four: The Black Room" at November 06, 2016 11:09 AM (9q7Dl)

125 Thanks Stringer, and I agree. I was raised on "It Was All About Bastogne" as well, along with the notion that the Great Stop was by the 82nd and other Big Divisions in the North, while 101st took the air out of the southern thrust. Only when i started to look more closely at Peiper did i see that the 'stop' was at the bridges in the Trois-Ponts area (a full day BEFORE the 82nd arrived and organized), including the Lienne. and Peiper was considered by the Germans to be the best and main chance they had (as little as that was). Sorry, Infantry and Armor - the Engineers stopped them for you. Two Battalions moved FORWARD while the line crumbled in front of them.

Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at November 06, 2016 11:09 AM (YFnq5)

126 The author of Crusoe was a quite amusing reactionary. Check this out:
http://www.bartleby.com/27/12.html

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 06, 2016 11:11 AM (W+pmt)

127 110:

i recommended "alone in the wilderness" in an ont last week. it's the video of proenneke building a cabin in the alskan wilderness and it's amazing. has played on pbs but only snippets available on youtube.

see it if you can . richard proenneke, "alone in the wilderness".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 11:11 AM (WTSFk)

128 If the Bible is able to find a new audience with this medium, I'm all for it.

Posted by: YOLO at November 06, 2016 11:12 AM (6RjTQ)

129 Robert Crumb was prophesied to illustrate the Bible. In Matthew 15:

It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.


How can this be just a coincidence???

Posted by: Fritz the Cat at November 06, 2016 11:13 AM (dtWKK)

130 Reading Masters of the Air by Donald Miller about the Eighth Air Force in Europe.

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I thought that was a very good book. There was talk of an HBO series. I don't know if that's still in the pipeline. My biggest surprise: the brutality Switzerland used against interned Yank airmen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:13 AM (Nwg0u)

131 Read the 1623 Folio version of Shakespeare's King Lear, comparing it with the 1608 version I'd read recently. Lots of little edits, maybe the 1623 version is slightly better. Reading the two versions side by side made me slow down and appreciate it more, great play.

Listened to Abercrombie's Last Argument of Kings (First Law #3) , gruesomely violent yet entertaining conclusion to the First Law trilogy. Good stuff.

Liked the literary quiz linked above, did miss a couple but the illusion of being smart shouldn't wear off for a couple of hours.

Posted by: waelse1 at November 06, 2016 11:13 AM (c8d10)

132 I am going to read Monster of Florence, an author is on vacation and meets up with a Local that know the History of the Monster of Florence, he gets interestied and they do some of their own investigation. the Monster of Florence is a Killer that murders couples on lovers lanes. The Prosecutor from the Amanda Knox case is on this case too and he then goes after the Authors.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 11:15 AM (dKiJG)

133 110 ... Weasel, I hadn't heard of Richard Proenneke before but will check him out. Sounds like some of the articles in Muzzleloader magazine and Backwoodsman. (Speaking of which, the new Backwoodsman issue should be out now.)

Please let us know how clearing the barrel goes when the brass rod arrives.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 11:15 AM (V+03K)

134 Woke up late.

On my blog today, Crawdad Crew, a blog talk radio by my blog friends, is on today at noon eastern. They are pretty funny.

Link in nic

Eris, I love your library pics!

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 11:16 AM (Om16U)

135 They would print a graphic novel version or the Koran but the cost of blood-red ink is prohibitive.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:18 AM (Nwg0u)

136 I went to a game at Wrigley years ago, on a Sunday. We parked within walking distance of the stadium, got there I guess right as the ticket windows were opening, purchased two seats in the FRONT ROW next to third base (Todd Zeile was playing third for the Cardinals, so you can figure out the timeline).

I have no idea how lucky we were to park and sit where we did... I've never before or since sat in the first row at a stadium.

I would imagine it's different today.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Pz4pT)

137 >>>I believe that the spoken word and words written down are a much more complex, subtle, and rich form of communication than visual images.

Yes, the problem is that in the best case scenario where all the text comes from the Bible, the reader won't be getting any new biblical information. The only new information they get will be from the cartoonist's visual interpretation.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 11:23 AM (dtWKK)

138 By the way, moron long running fool (Paul Duffau) did a great and thoughtful review of the Eric Metaxas book a month ago

It's here

http://www.bookhorde.org/2016/10/if-you-can-by-metaxas-reviewed-duffau.html

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 11:23 AM (Om16U)

139 Every black I heard talk about that OJ case claimed he was framed.

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By the same people who are framing Hillz.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:23 AM (Nwg0u)

140 135 They would print a graphic novel version or the Koran but the cost of blood-red ink is prohibitive.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:18 AM (Nwg0u)

Print it as a coloring book.
Sell with red markers.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 11:24 AM (Om16U)

141 136 I went to a game at Wrigley years ago, on a Sunday. We parked within walking distance of the stadium, got there I guess right as the ticket windows were opening, purchased two seats in the FRONT ROW next to third base (Todd Zeile was playing third for the Cardinals, so you can figure out the timeline).

I have no idea how lucky we were to park and sit where we did... I've never before or since sat in the first row at a stadium.

I would imagine it's different today.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Pz4pT)


Do you remember the final score, or the year? I bet I can find it.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 11:24 AM (sdi6R)

142 I thought that was a very good book. There was talk of an HBO series. I don't know if that's still in the pipeline. My biggest surprise: the brutality Switzerland used against interned Yank airmen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:13 AM (Nwg0u)
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Me too. Dear God, the way that one kid was treated by the other inmates, and nothing was done.

I saw the author at one of the annual WWII symposiums at the museum in New Orleans. Fantastic lectures by Miller, Cirillo, et al which might be available on YouTube.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:25 AM (EnKk6)

143 Books? Just finished Lord Grey's memoirs of 1892-1916 in the UK govt.

On the grounds that Wikileaks makes the Pentagon Papers look like Dr Seuss and someday we'll have an Idios Guide thereto, the Durden crew is going to town this AM.

Even Cheryl Mills apparently thought the mail server thing disqualified Clinton.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 11:26 AM (d2Mzg)

144 As soon as they had OJ try on the glove they lost the case, that was responsible doubt. The prosecution F'd up the case.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 11:03 AM (dKiJG)


Well that, and Mark Fuhrman used the N word. And Wilfong botched the chain of custody for the blood samples. And Cochran played the jury like a fiddle, even taking them to OJ's house (otherwise known as the shrine to his interactions with black people... after Johnny replaced all his pictures of OJ with white celebrities, and nekkid white women).

So other than all that, yeah, the glove theater nonsense.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

145 I ask because it's striking to me how well-organized the rebels were
right from the beginning. The Boston Tea Party wasn't some random riot,
it was a planned operation. And by that point all the colonies had their
own revolutionary cells. Who organized all that?

An abject lesson for modern times, we have the tools, but need the organ.

Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2016 11:27 AM (rc1rA)

146 Holding pattern. Rereading Larry Correia''s Monster Hunter series in anticipation of the new Ringo collaboration novel next month.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at November 06, 2016 11:27 AM (R5EqA)

147 Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Pz4pT)

Do you remember the final score, or the year? I bet I can find it.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 11:24 AM (sdi6R)


Had to be '92 or '93. Cubs won, that's all I really remember about the game. And Todd Zeile really was a handsome man.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:28 AM (Pz4pT)

148 OT, but Christmas is just around the corner and it gets chilly in my living room:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0U038X?psc=1

We live in amazing times.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:28 AM (EnKk6)

149 I'm calling bullshit on the Joseph Heller question in the quiz (#21).

Catch-22 is not the name of a literary device and it is not represented by the snippet of dialog presented there.

Harumph.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (mgbwf)

150 54 I am listening to a recording of I Shot the Buddha by Colin Cotteril. A new author for me, and a devilishly fascinating plot, plus a look at 1970s Laos, as seen through the eyes of a retired coroner, Siri Paiboun and his wife, Madam Daeng. Despite the serious theme of three old, interlocking murders, the book is slyly hilarious. Apparently this is no. 11 in a series. Anyone else familiar with the author? This volume certainly makes me hungry for more.

Posted by: Alifa at November 06, 2016 10:30 AM (M5tMF


I have read The Coroner's Lunch, the first in that series. I thought it was good, but not good enough to continue with the series. In the same general vein, I much prefer John Burdett's Sonchai Jitpleecheep series, starting with Bangkok 8.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (StZrq)

151 >>Print it as a coloring book.
>>Sell with red markers

...but when your kids colors in Mohammed you have to kill them

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (d2Mzg)

152 Crumb is a blasphemer.

Posted by: Oliver Crumb-Well at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (dtWKK)

153 An abject lesson for modern times, we have the tools, but need the organ.
Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2016 11:27 AM (rc1rA)

Someone asked for an organ?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (7qAYi)

154 I highly recommend "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black and White" by David Barton. A wonderful book which is a must-read, and should be on the bookshelves of all morons/'ettes with children. As we all know, the left has co-opted our history. Barton uses original source material, which is the best approach for historical works. Amazon blurb: "Setting the Record Straight is a unique view of the religious and moral
heritage of black Americans, with an emphasis on the untold yet
significant stories from our rich political history. The material
presented is ground-breaking and revolutionary, leaving viewers amazed
and inspired."

I know I was amazed and inspired. Bought several copies and passed them around.

This author appeared on Glenn Beck, back in his blackboard days on Fox, and is probably the most inspirational guest he ever had on that show. He's written a lot of books, easily found through Amazon. I also recommend "Original Intent."

On the subject of books discovered through Glenn Beck's guests, I have "George Washington's Sacred Fire" by Peter Lillback cued up for winter reading.

Right now I'm beginning "The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco, a gift from my college roommate. She's created a little book circle of friends to read this and discuss, since it's her favorite book. I enjoyed the movie, but the book is much, much more.

For the authors out there, I recommend this work, "Writing the Breakout Novel" by Donald Maass. I was reading this as I was developing my personal tome (not for publication) this summer, and found it to be universally useful on many levels.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 06, 2016 11:31 AM (tHwdc)

155 2 Have moved to John Rino now and re-reading ther Legacy of Aldanada Series (Poslene invasion)


Ringo's a RINO?

Posted by: waelse1 at November 06, 2016 11:34 AM (c8d10)

156 To me, I thought all the aforementioned prosecutor's errors, judge antics, jury manipulation, etc., only provided the excuses the jury needed to engage in their nullification, taking the standard way past 'reasonable doubt,' and into 'must be flawless.' Had 'reasonable doubt' been the actual standard used by a reasonable jury....different verdict. They were looking for a reason to acquit; so to me it still came down to the selection location and the racist jury members.

Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at November 06, 2016 11:34 AM (IIQHC)

157 Peiper was considered by the Germans to be the best and main chance they had (as little as that was

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I was living in France on 7/14/76 when Peiper, also living in France, was killed apparently by the commies. I know nothing good about Peiper, his defense to the Malmedy Massacre is that he didn't need to order his men to take no prisoners, they already knew what to do. He was famous for his actions in Russia where his unit was known as the Blowtorch Brigade for their habit of attaching flamethrowers to their halftracks and running like hell through Russian villages. Still, he was awfully young, perhaps between 1945 and 1976 he saw the light. And his commie murderers' hands were also not free from blood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:35 AM (Nwg0u)

158 Meester Mrs. Clinton, we are all out of Lemon Pledge and CIA Briefings.

Posted by: Marina at November 06, 2016 11:36 AM (aamBJ)

159 I hope Crumb includes some transgender characters. The bible doesn't have any references to transgender people, as if we didn't exist.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 06, 2016 11:36 AM (dtWKK)

160 Someone asked for an organ?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner


******


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Antzonee, Antzonee, Antzonee! Vut are vee goink to do mit you? I ask you to dress in a nice three-piece suit, so zat you can present yourself nicely, and all you can zink about iss your peenis!

Oh well, as I always say about you, hope for the vest, but prepare for the wurst!!!

Posted by: Dr. Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at November 06, 2016 11:37 AM (wPiJc)

161 the problem with visual interpretations of biblical themes is we're too removed from the way of life depicted in the stories, so inevitably wrong, if innocent, images emerge despite the efforts to convey meaning.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 06, 2016 11:39 AM (U0lQa)

162 Some of Genesis reads like sci-fi.
Chapter 6, Nephelim.

Posted by: navybrat at November 06, 2016 11:39 AM (w7KSn)

163 They were looking for a reason to acquit; so to me it still came down to the selection location and the racist jury members.

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Twenty-five years ago, in Colorado Springs, a wackjob entered a biker bar with a fully automatic AK-47 and opened fire killing two. When the cops arrived, he opened fire on them as well. The jury acquitted him on grounds of self defense! Speculation was the jury didn't feel bikers were worthy of protection. Sometimes juries just go crazy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)

164 Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Pz4pT)

Do you remember the final score, or the year? I bet I can find it.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 11:24 AM (sdi6R)


Had to be '92 or '93. Cubs won, that's all I really remember about the game. And Todd Zeile really was a handsome man.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:28 AM (Pz4pT)


Actually it had to be this one:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199106300.shtml

1991, not 92 or 93, which, now that I think about it, it couldn't have been '93. I would have thought '91 was too early, but nope. It's the only game that fits. There's an April game in '92, but it says it was 35F at game time, and I know that's not right.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:42 AM (Pz4pT)

165 Mein Gott Frauline Eris, heavy on the Rommel ja? ;D

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 11:43 AM (qVOjT)

166 147
Had to be '92 or '93. Cubs won, that's all I really remember about the game. And Todd Zeile really was a handsome man.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:28 AM (Pz4pT)


If it was '92 or '93, it must be this one. It's the only game that met all the criteria: Sunday at Wrigley Field with Zeile at 3B and the Cubs winning.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1992/B04120CHN1992.htm

I also found a 1991 game that met the criteria:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1991/B06300CHN1991.htm

There were Sunday games at Wrigley with Zeile at 3B on 6/20/93 and 6/26/94 but the Cubs lost those ones.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 11:44 AM (sdi6R)

167 89 Patrick from Ohio, I'll do that but first I will have to finish reading Lange & Vannatter on what a dick Fuhrman is and how he worked hard to make himself more important to the investigation when, in point of fact, Lange and Vannatter were way more important until that useless Marcia Clarke ruined EVERYTHING. Or something like that.

Mostly I'm just glad Simpson will probably die in prison. For an unbelievably brutal killer, he was free far too long.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 11:45 AM (uAU0q)

168 Saw Mel Gibson's Hacksaw Ridge and liked it. Story of WWII consciencetous objector who was awarded the Medal of Honor for his heroics as a medic on Okinawa.
My only caution is that the battle scenes are graphic. Lots of religious themes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 06, 2016 11:45 AM (bQxkN)

169 I often state my military reading is mainly Napoleoic, American Civil War and WWII, in WWII i do favor the Sahara desert campaign. I never got it can be over 100 degrees in the day and near freezing at night until Iwent to the Grand Canyon. It had been around 120 in Vegas and after driving to the Grand Canyon in a non air conditioned car that night spending it in the open desert it must have been in the high 40's at best.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 11:47 AM (sWbjH)

170 @H D Woodard

Do you have any plans to re-release your 'Wearing the Cat' as a single book? I didn't realize each section was only part of the story until I finished "The Fox's Den".

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 06, 2016 11:48 AM (hR1Jj)

171 Finished 'The Black Prince of Florence' (Fletcher). Was surprised at how good and relatively non-political it was and a very quick read, at that. There were numerous explanations of how race and illegitimacy were treated differently, but not obnoxious SJW. The only really odd thing was the footnote format -- just a wall of text with little numbers for each chapter. Didn't like it because it was hard to follow because I like footnotes, best at the bottom of the page, but tolerable in an individual list.

Highly recommend 'Monster of Florence' (Preston). Reads like a novel, and the nonsense of the Italian inquisitorial system is on full display.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 11:48 AM (MIKMs)

172 95 Vic, I have the Bugliosi book - it was pretty good although not as good as "Helter Skelter." And I have never understood why Gil Garcetti moved the trial downtown and pretty much thereby guaranteed a black jury instead of leaving it out where both Simpson and Brown lived thereby getting a jury of their peers.

I never understand how some defense lawyers can live with themselves, but I really, really, really have to wonder about Garcetti.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 11:48 AM (uAU0q)

173 Why hasn't the AoSHQ clock been turned back?

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 06, 2016 11:49 AM (tHwdc)

174 157:

i think the soviet response to nuremberg had some merit: just round up the top 10,000 nazi's and shoot 'em.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 11:49 AM (WTSFk)

175 Mermaid style? Well that certainly beats in a fashion sense the amorphous blanket as seen and sold on TV. Now you will look like a river flowing across your couch.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 11:50 AM (qVOjT)

176 Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 11:44 AM (sdi6R)


Heh, I beat you to it by two minutes.

A bit of personal history: in '91 I had just gotten out of the Army, and I remember my (not yet) wife and I getting pretty involved very quickly afterwards, but I didn't think it could have been this quick, where we were driving to Chicago together.

Weird. That was a lifetime ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 11:50 AM (Pz4pT)

177 Why hasn't the AoSHQ clock been turned back?

We're on it

Posted by: #twoweeks at November 06, 2016 11:50 AM (W+pmt)

178 "i think the soviet response to nuremberg had some merit: just round up the top 10,000 nazi's and shoot 'em."

Yeah, but that was the Soviet (and Russian) response to just about everything

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 06, 2016 11:51 AM (W+pmt)

179 Dr. Mrs. T. and I have been culling the bookshelves lately (to make room for MORE of course). The books we're getting rid of fall broadly into three categories:

1. Book we bought or were given that we just didn't like all that much. This is by far the biggest category.

2. Obsolete books. I have some reference books like "Extraordinary Origins of Ordinary Things" which have simply been superseded by the rise of the Internet. Also books on early childhood which we haven't needed for a decade or more.

3. Fallen idols. Books which one of us really liked once upon a time, but no longer. I used to read a lot of Michael Moorcock but now I find him rather superficial.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 11:51 AM (VIbVa)

180 21 Egad those pants are gayer than a SanFran Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 10:07 AM (BO/km)


They're gayer than a macrame handbag stuffed full of rainbows.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 11:51 AM (qVka1)

181 "Why hasn't the AoSHQ clock been turned back?"

It will. As soon as the Hamsters get their oil changes and grease jobs done, it's off to work on the clock.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 11:52 AM (d76uN)

182 Rommel: Desert Foxy!

Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at November 06, 2016 11:52 AM (IIQHC)

183 169:

i rather like that twice (with the help of ultra decrypts) montgomery beat off rommel's encirclement maneuvers to devastating effect.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 11:53 AM (WTSFk)

184 Some of Genesis reads like sci-fi.
Chapter 6, Nephelim.


Or death metal...

I suppose Jeremiah is more emo/goth.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 06, 2016 11:53 AM (W+pmt)

185 165 Mein Gott Frauline Eris, heavy on the Rommel ja? ;D
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 11:43 AM (qVOjT)
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I guess North Africa fascinates because it's military against military, personality against personality, and man against nature; not brutalizing civilians like other theaters.

And really, that's just one shelf. Other collections include books on Teddy Roosevelt and 19th century tomes on explorers.

Lots on illustrators and cartoonists.

Also the freakier designers like Mugler, Gauthier, and McQueen, dandyism, and Goth fashion.

I'm very well-rounded. Too well-rounded, really.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:54 AM (EnKk6)

186 Well there is at least one book on All Hail Eris' Afrika Korps bookshelf not in evidence though she is a fan of it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zhbzox3

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 11:55 AM (qVOjT)

187 I've also been rereading some Chandler short stories. That dude could write.

What's interesting, though, is that one remembers lines of dialogue and characters, but not the plots of the stories. Every time I read one of them the outcome is a surprise.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2016 11:56 AM (VIbVa)

188 As a helpful hint from a carpenter, use 5/4" shelves or support with additional boards. Partical board doesn't support weight as well as plywood.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 11:56 AM (sWbjH)

189 I read Red Sparrow by Jason Matthews this week. I thought it was one of the best espionage thrillers written since the end of the Cold War. Many other authors in this genre floundered around after the fall of the Berlin wall, substituting drug lords, jihadis, arms dealers, evil corporations, etc. for the old Soviet menace, but it usually wound up feeling forced. Vladimir Putin, unfortunately, is the real deal.

The author, Jason Matthews, is a retired 33-year veteran of the CIA's Operations Directorate who specialized in denied-area operations. As a result, the tradecraft feels quite realistic, although a few of the plot devices stretch credibility. Amusingly, Matthews strongly resembles fictional accountant/spy Cyril Figgis of "Archer".

I liked that one of the villains is a sociopathic female Senator (D) from California. Also, in a touch evoking Len Deighton, food features prominently and a recipe accompanies each chapter. The book is the first in a trilogy. The second, Palace of Treason, was published last year. The third, The Kremlin's Candidate, is due next May and reportedly concerns a corrupt female Presidential nominee (D) running in 2016. The teaser describes it as "a plot ripped from tomorrow's headlines".

I don't recall who brought this book to my attention, but I am pretty sure it must have been someone here. Thanks a lot! I am looking forward to reading the whole trilogy.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 06, 2016 11:57 AM (StZrq)

190 *tiptoes into book thread/clears throat*

Regarding the graphic novel of the Bible; I'm personally ok with it as long as it remains faithful - as much as a graphic novel can - to the core of the Bible. Getting the greatest book ever written into more hands is never a bad thing IMO.

I know Erwin Rommel was respected as a master military strategist but I've never heard if he was an evil man in the vein of Goebbels et al. or was he just a German serving his country?

I recently read "The Forgotten Highlander" by Alistair Urqhart which was an incredible read about his POW experience building the Bridge of the river Kwai. He also recently passed away too, his book reinforced values and beliefs in my own life. RIP.

Right now I'm currently reading "Mans' Search For Meaning" by Viktor Frankl, which is another incredible read.

After that? "Extreme Ownership" by Jocko Wilink and Leif Babin

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 06, 2016 11:58 AM (R5HRU)

191 And I have never understood why Gil Garcetti moved the trial downtown and pretty much thereby guaranteed a black jury instead of leaving it out where both Simpson and Brown lived thereby getting a jury of their peers.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 11:48 AM (uAU0q)


Because the prosecution thought that they could overload the jury pool with single women/mothers who either had been abused by their husbands or knew somebody who had. So they would be naturally sympathetic to a woman in Nicole's position. Also, they didn't want the case to go before an all-white jury like what happened in the Rodney King case with disastrous results.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 11:58 AM (qVka1)

192 169: skip (or whoever might know);

i've looked through several ww II sources and can't get a figure to how many germans were in the afrika korps (up to el alamein but before the end in tunisia). the totals always include italians. anyone know?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 11:58 AM (WTSFk)

193 Well there is at least one book on All Hail Eris' Afrika Korps bookshelf not in evidence though she is a fan of it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zhbzox3
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 11:55 AM (qVOjT)
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I have that, Anna! It's on the shelf against the wall from whence the dust-motey sunlight is coming. There are shelves all over the room.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:59 AM (EnKk6)

194 I know Erwin Rommel was respected as a master military strategist but I've never heard if he was an evil man in the vein of Goebbels et al. or was he just a German serving his country?

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 06, 2016 11:58 AM (R5HRU)


Given that Rommel was implicated in one of the plots to assassinate Hitler, I'd say the latter.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:00 PM (qVka1)

195 190:

as far as i know, rommel was a brilliant tactician who did not murder civilians or commit war crimes. but he was a stone cold nazi.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:01 PM (WTSFk)

196 And I have never understood why Gil Garcetti moved the trial downtown and pretty much thereby guaranteed a black jury

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My guess: he thought a guilty verdict was inevitable (like Hillz' election) and he thought a black jury's guilty verdict would be better received.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:02 PM (Nwg0u)

197
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:00 PM (qVka1)

I did not know that Muse. Thanks!

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 06, 2016 12:02 PM (R5HRU)

198 As a helpful hint from a carpenter, use 5/4" shelves
or support with additional boards. Partical board doesn't support
weight as well as plywood. Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 11:56 AM (sWbjH)
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My solution was to make a stack horizontally in the middle for support and then regular vertical stacks on each side. I also do this with higher-end bookshelves to avoid the sagging.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 12:02 PM (MIKMs)

199 (i kinda figure the afrika corps had around 100,000 men.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:03 PM (WTSFk)

200 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:01 PM (WTSFk)

Thanks! If anything it proves people are fucking complicated.

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 06, 2016 12:03 PM (R5HRU)

201 Oh goodness. The radio show is at 3pm Eastern not at noon

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:04 PM (Om16U)

202 Pfirsich means peach, btw.

I know Erwin Rommel was respected as a master military strategist but I've never heard if he was an evil man in the vein of Goebbels et al. or was he just a German serving his country?

The latter is my understanding. And he was forced into suicide by the actual Nazis.

Germans don't rehabilitate Nazis or their families, but they were able to elect his grandson as mayor of Munich for a few terms. I think that reflects on how he is viewed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 12:04 PM (mgbwf)

203 I know Erwin Rommel was respected as a master military strategist but I've never heard if he was an evil man in the vein of Goebbels et al. or was he just a German serving his country?
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No, he may have been a bit of a climber (according to other generals passed over) and impulsive, but he was a fairly upstanding man who insisted that Allied prisoners receive the same rations and care that his own soldiers did. Of course these were two professional armies fighting, and most of the officers came from upper class or aristocratic backgrounds, so there was a sense of coming from similar peoples.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:06 PM (EnKk6)

204 Plan for the day is to go to the TatteredCoverstore on Colfax when it opens @10. I hear they have books there

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 06, 2016 12:07 PM (W+pmt)

205 That was Rommel's son, not grandson, I think, Bander.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:07 PM (EnKk6)

206 I'm about halfway through "The Widower's Wife," by Cate Holahan. So far, highly recommended. A young wife and mother falls overboard on a cruise ship and it's witnessed by many passengers. Her dirtbag husband, who took out a $10M policy on her when he lost his high-dollar job, has an airtight alibi with witnesses as to where he was at the time. A disabled cop-turned insurance investigator, is out to prove the claim fraudulent.

Posted by: SMOD 2016! at November 06, 2016 12:09 PM (s/vEm)

207 That was Rommel's son, not grandson, I think, Bander.


Ah, so he was.

Looking things up is cheating, though, so I went with the wrong thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 12:10 PM (mgbwf)

208 I guess North Africa fascinates because it's military against military, personality against personality, and man against nature; not brutalizing civilians like other theaters.

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Years ago I read War Without Hate by Bierman and Smith about North Africa that addressed that although reached no persuasive conclusion in my opinion. While the Desert War was certainly less ugly than the generally contemporaneous struggles going on in Russia and in the Pacific, it certainly was not free from pain, fear and death. The final surrender of Axis forces in Tunisia resulted in more prisoners than the surrender of Axis forces in Stalingrad some four months before. The Germans used S mines designed when step on to spring up to roughly crotch height before exploding. When a British plan to attack Axis rear areas using troops disguised in German uniforms guided by anti-Nazi Germans failed because some allegedly anti-Nazi Germans betrayed the British to the Germans, the remaining allegedly anti-Nazi Germans were summarily executed. Flamethrowers were used to burn soldiers out of fortifications and many burned to death when their tanks "brewed up".

Yet there was an extraordinary mutual respect between the Germans and the British (that included a mutual disrespect of the Italians). They shared even their taste in music. Lili Marlene became the unofficial theme song for each side. One wonders why this was possible in the desert while unrelenting hatred raged elsewhere. Perhaps the answer can be found in the circumstances of the desert itself. There were few civilians in the combat areas so resentments arising from civilian deaths were relatively rare. (But there were few civilians on the Pacific islands either yet war there raged as savagely as anywhere at any time.) Neither side considered the desert to be their homeland. Both sides constantly fought the same enemy, the desert itself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)

209 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (EnKk6)

My sole job for two weeks at one point in my last job, was to go around and give restroom breaks in one of the SCIFs; I had to observe them putting the classified paperwork into a secured container, secure their computers, etc then stay there til they got back, then shield them while they got everything back out and logged back in. All of that when it was just myself and the individual around.

But that bitch can have her own lil server in her house and no one bats an eye. And now you tell me she had foreign nationals traipsing about, hands all over the classifieds.

My God, at the job before that, I had to escort Foreign Nationals who were part owners of the company around to make sure they didn't see the ITAR stuff, and it wasn't even remotely classified, just export-controlled.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 12:12 PM (zY5Vj)

210 Tides Of War was one of my favorites for what it's worth.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 06, 2016 11:01 AM (bDzJM)

I will add this to my list, A Morons review is worth more than an Amazon review.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio


I read it (Tides of War) some years ago, and then lent my copy to my boss (who lives in the UK) and never got it back, or else I'd lend it to you (apparently you don't live far away).

I think it was a VERY good fictional novel. It really made the Peloponnesian War make a lot more sense to me.
If you read "Lion's Gate", you should also read the non-fiction "Six Days of War" by Michael Oren. This is a very good history of what led up to and the Six Day War itself.

My take from "Six Days of War" and "Lion's Gate" is that Jewish Israel of that period was one of the most heroic nations that ever existed. Having said that, even Pressfield (who is Jewish), understands that Israel is not like America or Israelis are not like Americans (which is not bad, just different).
Everybody knew everybody. The country was like an extended family. It was really strange but very touching. The IDF didn't need a lot of things (funny psychological training games) other militaries do, because there was the unspoken understanding of why they fight, or had to fight.
Whether you were Likud or Labor, you knew why you were in the IDF.
And funny, the Israelis did not hate the Arabs. Nasser's propaganda was constant about what the Egyptian Army was going to do to the Israelis if THEY won. At the end of the campaign in the Sinai, the IDF soldiers actually felt sorry for the Egyptian kids that were abandoned and left to die in the field by their cowardly officers. They could have massacred them all, and didn't do anything like that.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....Grate American cheese again!3221 at November 06, 2016 12:12 PM (S6Pax)

211
i think the soviet response to nuremberg had some merit: just round up the top 10,000 nazi's and shoot 'em.

Sounds like an inverse "Paths of Glory."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2016 12:12 PM (IqV8l)

212 Posted by: cool breeze at November 06, 2016 11:29 AM (StZrq)

32 Teeth is the second in the series then. That would make sense.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 06, 2016 12:14 PM (GDulk)

213 Approximately 275,000 Axis soldiers were surrendered in North Africa. Camp Clinton, located just outside Jackson, MS, had the honor of housing Rommel's successor Gen. Jurgen von Arnim and other high ranking officers.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ol2j327

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 12:15 PM (qVOjT)

214 It's interesting that Rommel only became an anti-nazi after Germany started losing the war. Had the winning continued Rommel would have done nothing.

Zilch, zip, nada,

Worship a hero to the nazi's if you wish but remember the end goal of the man he served.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 12:17 PM (d76uN)

215 Plan for the day is to go to the TatteredCoverstore on Colfax when it opens @10. I hear they have books there

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It's a mere shadow of its former self back when it was in Cherry Creek. It was magnificent then.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:18 PM (Nwg0u)

216 Off topic, hey people make sure you wear red on Tuesday, ok? Let's freak the lefties out.
I'm scared about PA but if I see a lot of red I'll feel better.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:18 PM (Om16U)

217 213:

but how many germans did rommel command in his offensive campaign up to el alamein?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:21 PM (WTSFk)

218 MJC - I have to think where I might find that number. One thing for me is counting combatants, is it in total theater or in immediate battle zone.
One thing I have around 2/3rds of is Purnell's History of the Second World War. It was a magazine series put out weekly in theearly 70's. The writing is so surprisingly excellent with first person accounts of virtually every part of WWII. It might have been what started me on it and still have all I collected as a young teenager and a few years ago got another large part on ebay.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 12:22 PM (sWbjH)

219 "i think the soviet response to nuremberg had some merit: just round up the top 10,000 nazi's and shoot 'em."

Yeah, but that was the Soviet (and Russian) response to just about everything

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The borscht is cold! Kill the top 10,000 waiters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:22 PM (Nwg0u)

220 So ... Eris reads alot of Rommel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 06, 2016 12:22 PM (Y4WlI)

221 Anna, when are we going to see your library?

Hmmmm?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:23 PM (EnKk6)

222 JTB, I agree with you that handicrafts can be so soothing.

I like crochet. I think I would like whittling. Where does one go to get some basic supplies?

I think I may try the grayscale kind of adult coloring books too. (Basically toned down black & white photos you colorize).

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:24 PM (Om16U)

223 Morning fappers. I don't really have a library, just a couple of bookcases half-assedly stocked with about 65% books and 35% random tchotchkes.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 06, 2016 12:24 PM (0mRoj)

224 My library? Eeeppp!! Would have to clean up the stacks to get a proper photograph because I have books everywhere.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 12:24 PM (qVOjT)

225 Metaxas is good buddies with Glenn Beck, who has him on his show now and then. Beck intro'd audiences to George Whitefield via historian David Barton back in his FOX days. Barton tells the story of "the miracle" of Whitefield's preaching. I believe it was none other than Ben Franklin who attended Whitefield's outdoor sermons and reported that George could be heard clear as a bell no matter where he stood in the crowd, including that very back corners. When you consider the throngs that came to these events and the fact that there was no acoustic equipment at the time, it was indeed miraculous.

Posted by: SMOD 2016! at November 06, 2016 12:24 PM (s/vEm)

226 Looked up Tides of War on amazon, and the same page showed entries for a couple of children's series: Tides of War and Dog Tags. Anyone have experience with those?

My grandson is turning 11 on Nov 10th and is showing signs of interest in the military. I'm thinking he might like them, but the covers look like his mother would not. :/

Posted by: April at November 06, 2016 12:25 PM (e8PP1)

227 Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 06, 2016 11:49 AM (tHwdc)

Bless your heart....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 12:26 PM (zY5Vj)

228 @H D Woodard

Do you have any plans to re-release your 'Wearing the Cat' as a single book? I didn't realize each section was only part of the story until I finished "The Fox's Den".
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 06, 2016 11:48 AM (hR1Jj)



Well...

The short answer is no. Not right now.

The long answer is I set out to write a big comic novel as that is the form which I most enjoy reading and that I admire the most.

And I received some professional interest ( in the form of agents), and their main criticism was that a black (or dark) comic novel was a tough sell, esp. a long one. They wanted it broken into 3 or four "bite-size" sections of clean plot-driven beginning-middle-end so that way I could make it a Series, which is an easy sale these days.

I struggled with that for a fairly long while but the story is the story and didn't lend itself to that.

So, during this period, I noticed more than one kindle author breaking up their novels into bite-size pieces and selling them separately, which seemed to get around the problem of the giant novel by an unknown author, so that is what I did.

I divided the novel into four sections, that in retrospect after the novel is read should make thematic sense.

I didn't think that was a problem since each section is the length of an average novel, and I believe the reader receives a novel's worth of entertainment (and perhaps more

If I can get enough positive feedback to break "Wearing the Cat" loose as a novel itself then, of course, I would collect it together in whole form.

Right now, though I believe I'm making it easier to read for the average reader to devour as a series of small chocolate bars rather than a big box of chocolates/

I hope that makes sense to you. And I hope you'll continue reading. Your review of Part One demonstrates a really nice understanding of WTC at that point in the story.

I'm always willing to hear feedback as this is a solitary pursuit and other views help.

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part Four: The Black Room" at November 06, 2016 12:28 PM (0cMkb)

229 1942: it really was a close run thing. had rommel taken egypt, it would have been devastating. in retrospect, hitler made a mistake in not reinforcing him. the mediterranean would have been lost, no italian campaign, the mideast oil fields threatened, etc.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:29 PM (WTSFk)

230 Why hasn't the AoSHQ clock been turned back?
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 06, 2016 11:49 AM (tHwdc)


DST is handled differently in Alofi

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2016 12:30 PM (u8ofW)

231 Has anyone read the CS Lewis sci fi book "That Hideous Strength?"

It's one of my favorite books, but I haven't read it in a long time. Picked it up a few nights ago.

The Progressive Element (termed that in the book) sells some college land to an organization based in "science" that is going to solve the world's problems. Hunger, cancer, crime, unemployment, it will all be solved.

The organization has their own police force, who knows they will use violence to make this happen. They even start riots so they can place stories in a willing media that shows they're on the side of Good. It's all

But they're not. They're evil. It's all part of their totalitarian plan.

Progressives. Media collusion. Violence.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:30 PM (hqqM5)

232 My library? Eeeppp!! Would have to clean up the stacks to get a proper photograph because I have books everywhere.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 12:24 PM (qVOjT)
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Me too, and I didn't! Now the world knows how crazypants I am.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:30 PM (EnKk6)

233 I like crochet. I think I would like whittling. Where does one go to get some basic supplies?



I think I may try the grayscale kind of adult coloring books too. (Basically toned down black white photos you colorize).
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Love crochet. Very soothing. Coloring? Meh.

RE: whittling, for fun, try it with a small pocket knife and a bar of soap.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:32 PM (hqqM5)

234 All Hail Eris, I want to come over! Of all the Moron libraries posted so far, yours has the most similar feel to mine, other than your bookcases are more stylish and your books on the floor being upright and so tidily arranged. Mine are in random piles.

And quite dusty.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 12:32 PM (zY5Vj)

235 218 skip: yes, it's difficult to get a simple figure as reinforcements and attrition over the long campaign complicates the matter.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:32 PM (WTSFk)

236 221 Anna, when are we going to see your library?
Hmmmm?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:23 PM (EnKk6)


Yeah, that's what I would like to know.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:35 PM (qVka1)

237 Shining, the only thing is my middle finger (yes that one) has been feeling stiff and painful recently. I hope it's just some injury and not arthritis.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (Om16U)

238 I didnt think Rommel had as many German troops as one would think. Later in theater the British (with many allied units from the whole commonwealth) had 230,000 while Rommel had only 80,000 only 27,000 were German.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (sWbjH)

239 Shining = shibumi

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (Om16U)

240 237 Shining, the only thing is my middle finger (yes that one) has been feeling stiff and painful recently. I hope it's just some injury and not arthritis.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (Om16U)

Repetitive use injury, perhaps?

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (0mRoj)

241 I'm concerned about the Filthadelphia / Shittsburgh voter fraud, votermom.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 12:36 PM (89T5c)

242 Stacks of books on the floor is pretty normal for me. I have always claimed that method as extra insulation for the cold NoIllinois winters. When I get crazy and start giving away bagsful of stuff, inevitably I want to reread something and start hunting through dust, dog/cat hair and 'what was I thinking' stuff. Better to let it sit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 12:37 PM (MIKMs)

243 241 I'm concerned about the Filthadelphia / Shittsburgh voter fraud, votermom.

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Me too.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:37 PM (Om16U)

244 Well thank you for saying that, Tammy! I'm only renting, otherwise I would have shelves lining the walls. I have nice high ceilings and it cries out for shelves with the ladder on rollers.

I would love to have a library like Guillermo del Toro's, though perhaps minus the vampire figures from The Strain. Lovecraft and Poe could stay.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:37 PM (EnKk6)

245

Active and retired members of the military have been showing far more support for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton than for her Republican rival, at least as measured by the checks they’ve written to her campaign.

Individuals who listed their employers as the U.S. Department of Defense or major branches of the military, or who say they’re retired from one of those, have contributed a total of $972,709 to both nominees so far this year. Clinton has claimed $771,471 of the contributions, or nearly 80 percent.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2016 12:39 PM (IqV8l)

246 238: wow. he campaigned across n. africa with just 30,000 or so germans? impressive. i thought he had far more.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 12:39 PM (WTSFk)

247 the only thing is my middle finger (yes that one) has been feeling stiff and painful recently. I hope it's just some injury and not arthritis.
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Whittling on soap will be easier than wood.

If you really want a hobby that will not aggravate your fingers... I suggest a pet.

/plus you're helping the economy, since a pet needs food, toys and vet visits!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:39 PM (hqqM5)

248 inevitably I want to reread something and start hunting through dust, dog/cat hair and 'what was I thinking' stuff. Better to let it sit.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 12:37 PM (MIKMs)
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Cat hair is like asbestos -- it's more dangerous to disturb it! You'll get Fuzzathelioma.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:39 PM (EnKk6)

249 Has anyone read the CS Lewis sci fi book "That Hideous Strength?"

Oh yes, I've read this book several times. It's everything you say it is.

It's all part of their totalitarian plan.

Progressives. Media collusion. Violence.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:30 PM (hqqM5)


Between this book and 'The Abolition of Man', Lewis mapped out pretty much the entire post-modern landscape, 50 years in advance.

Dude was a prophet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:40 PM (qVka1)

250 Stuttgart, not Munich.


Rommen's son (Manfred).


That is all.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 12:40 PM (QDnY+)

251 "Rommel's son"

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 12:40 PM (QDnY+)

252 British (with many allied units from the whole commonwealth) had 230,000 while Rommel had only 80,000 only 27,000 were German.

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And Italians count as only 3/5 of a German.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:42 PM (Nwg0u)

253 Between this book and 'The Abolition of Man', Lewis pretty much mapped out the entire post-modern landscape, 50 years in advance.

Dude was a prophet.
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I haven't read The Abolition of Man. Will definitely check it out.

Really unsettled by That Hideous Strength. It's like the road map for the past decade or so.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:42 PM (hqqM5)

254 The Germans were moving in Africa because the Italians who were the aggressor were loosing badly. The Germans tried to run the whole campaign on a shoestring.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 12:42 PM (sWbjH)

255 Stuttgart, not Munich.

So I managed to be wrong twice in one sentence.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 12:42 PM (mgbwf)

256 1 Tolle lege

trahe the other one, while you're at it.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 06, 2016 12:43 PM (Haj96)

257 Me too, and I didn't! Now the world knows how crazypants I am.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 12:30 PM (EnKk6)


Wha'?

I was thinking, wow, Eris is way more organized than I.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2016 12:43 PM (u8ofW)

258 222 ... votermom, Let me get back to you either later on this thread or another one, or at the Book Horde site with specifics. Choosing a comfortable knife and the proper wood is what's important and doesn't have to be expensive. Chip carving is another whittling-like version and it's easier on you hand.

Mrs. JTB enjoys whittling and carving. She suggested looking into pyrography. Easy on the hands (the tool does the work) and it can be done on wood, leather, even heavy art paper.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 12:44 PM (V+03K)

259 Between this book and 'The Abolition of Man', Lewis
pretty much mapped out the entire post-modern landscape, 50 years in
advance. Dude was a prophet. Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:40 PM (qVka1)
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Oddly enough, 'The Abolition of Man' was required summer reading at our high school about 15 years ago. Back then we had dizzying ACT/SAT scores. Now, meh.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 12:45 PM (MIKMs)

260 ding at our high school about 15 years ago


Ahem.

Posted by: Lawn, you know the rest at November 06, 2016 12:46 PM (mgbwf)

261 I can get Tides of War for just under 10 bucks on Audio Cassette, my 1999 dodge caravan still has a cassette player.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 12:47 PM (dKiJG)

262 216 Off topic, hey people make sure you wear red on Tuesday, ok? Let's freak the lefties out.
I'm scared about PA but if I see a lot of red I'll feel better.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:18 PM (Om16U)


I thought about it (and I have a red sweatshirt I could wear), but decided against it. I'm going to the polls incognito. I'll let my vote speak for itself.

Depending on where you're voting, I can see that backfiring. People wearing red could be accused of "electioneering" or "intimidation". Hostile poll workers could tamper with or "lose" your vote.

I'll just keep my vote secret from prying eyes.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 12:48 PM (sdi6R)

263 Really unsettled by That Hideous Strength. It's like the road map for the past decade or so.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 12:42 PM (hqqM5)


And it was first published in, like, 1950 or so. Amazing.

I've always wanted to see this as an 8- or 10-part miniseries. Done as an early 50s period piece, maybe even in black and white. Include some retro-futuristic props like they had in the move 'Brazil' and it would be epic.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:48 PM (DQDYk)

264 234
Mine are in random piles.

And quite dusty.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 12:32 PM (zY5Vj)


*fistbump*

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 12:51 PM (sdi6R)

265 And yet this foreign national maid can get was illegally allowedaccess.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (EnKk6)


Yeah, I work in a SCIF and know that the FAB should be indicted. She is a traitor.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 06, 2016 12:51 PM (5Yee7)

266 Shibumi, love Lewis' space trilogy. "That Hideous Strength" is great and sadly prophetic but I have to grit my teeth getting through the parts dealing with the 'progressives'. But it is an interesting concept and the ending is VERY satisfying.

My problem with learning to whittle with soap is holding onto the soap. Maybe it's easier with smaller hands. :-)

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 12:54 PM (V+03K)

267 Read "Adios America" by Ann Coulter for the second time this week.

Well written, well documented, and incredibly depressing.

I suspect most NeverTrumpers fall in the Chamber of Commerce, establishment, pro-immigration camp. However, if you're not of that viewpoint and are still inclined not to vote for Trump, you might want to take a gander.

It's a pretty scary road we're traveling down, and we have one candidate that will double down on the current path, and another who has expressed his dismay and vowed to try to halt the deluge.

Your vote, your choice.

Posted by: RM at November 06, 2016 12:54 PM (U3LtS)

268 Sorry about the political slant of my post above intruding on the book thread, but I did read the book, and it is a political book, so...

Posted by: RM at November 06, 2016 12:56 PM (U3LtS)

269 Hmmm, goatexchange and Stringer Davis above reference Beevor and The Battle of the Bulge, and the subject of errors in history books and the evolution of historical understanding of major battles over time.


Just started Beevor's "Ardennes 1944" last night.


Any problems I should be on the look-out for? Published last year, so it *should* at least benefit from up-to-date research.


The only major errors I recall finding in WWII histories were in the massive, sweeping, all-in-one histories of the entire conflict. Pretty jaw-dropping ones, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 12:57 PM (QDnY+)

270 I feel bad for FAB' s maid.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:57 PM (Om16U)

271 All Hail Eris, I want to come over! Of all the Moron libraries posted so far, yours has the most similar feel to mine, other than your bookcases are more stylish and your books on the floor being upright and so tidily arranged. Mine are in random piles.

And quite dusty.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 12:32 PM (zY5Vj)


same here, in every room, the bookshelves are full and bursting, not even space above the books on the shelves, in the hall on the floor, bedrooms, living room...

piles and stacks

basement boxes

Will have to donate to a local library again, but I don't have it in me most of the time.

Thank goodness for the Kindle, otherwise I wouldn't be able to walk around.

The cookbooks? Another story. Kitchen extended to dining and other free space, haha.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:58 PM (qCMvj)

272 OT / In an effort to be positive, I saw a 2-truck parade with huge Trump / MAGA flags flying, blowing their horns this am in my area, which went for O massively in '08 and '12. I honked and gave a thumbs up. Also saw someone in the library yesterday with a MAGA hat on. Gave him a thumbs up as well. Even here in commie Illinois, there are some signs of strength for Trump.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (Dc/ui)

273 I finished the second of John Robert Maddox's SPQR series of Ancient Roman murder mysteries, The Cataline Conspiracy, this week. I quite enjoyed it but these are based on actual history so I often know how the story ends. I read the blurb for the third, The Sacrilege, and I know who the bad guy is. That's a curse and a blessing. The books appear accurate as to ancient attitudes as opposed to contemporary attitudes and they may be hard to follow for people who are not generally familiar with Ancient Rome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (Nwg0u)

274 I feel bad for FAB' s maid.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:57 PM (Om16U)/i]

Shrill probably thought she couldn't read it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (qCMvj)

275 Rickl, in that case, can you wear red after you've been to the polls? Or is it too dangerous to do that in your area?

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (Om16U)

276 OT / In an effort to be positive, I saw a 2-truck parade with huge Trump / MAGA flags flying, blowing their horns this am in my area, which went for O massively in '08 and '12. I honked and gave a thumbs up. Also saw someone in the library yesterday with a MAGA hat on. Gave him a thumbs up as well. Even here in commie Illinois, there are some signs of strength for Trump.
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (Dc/ui)


I want to sleep through this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (qCMvj)

277 That's OK, Bander. Trivia, really. Like most of last night's ONT WWII quiz. Rommel descendant, mayor of major German city - good enough!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 01:00 PM (QDnY+)

278 268: "sorry about intruding on the book thread..."

nothing like mine, blundering around, saying this and that and not really knowing much more than a whit and a what.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 06, 2016 01:00 PM (WTSFk)

279 So far All Hail Eris not come across that image of the Bf-109 from the WWII quiz in a simple Bing image search.

But I did stumble across someone speculating on the markings of Marseille's last Bf-109...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jq9q29x

Considering all we know, from the accident report, is the plane's Werke Number 14 256 and is a Bf-109G-2/Trop built at Regensberg there is a lot of speculating in this artwork. According to the same report no Kennzifer was carried. And the bands of what is probably RLM70 is most likely incorrect, Friedrichs that were diverted from North Africa and sent to the Russian front had such applied because sand on the snowy Russian landscape stood out, a Bf-109F is on display in Canada in such sand and green camouflage. In Kitchens and Beaman's book Hans-Joachim Marseille Air Power Editions 2007 on pg 62 is shown a jadgflieger in North Africa holding the rudder of Marseille's last Friedrich with his 158 kill total, in the background is a 109 fuselage the authors identify as a G model and it is showing standard, for 1942, day fighter camouflage. The only known photos of Marseille's G-2 are from after the crash as shown on pg 211 of Franz Kurowski's German Fighter Ace Hans-Joachim Marseille: The Life Story of the Star of Africa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:01 PM (qVOjT)

280 Been writing tolle lege for a few weeks, no one has asked what it means.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:02 PM (sWbjH)

281 The cookbooks? Another story. Kitchen extended to dining and other free space, haha.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:58 PM (qCMvj)
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We could do a book thread just on cookbooks. The best are travelogue/autobiography/food porn. Like Proust but with ribs or lasagna.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:02 PM (EnKk6)

282 There have been MAGA/Golden Scalp Weasel freeway overpass "demonstrations" here in SoCal recently - people have signs taped up on the fence facing the traffic below, waving flags, waving at drivers. People honking in response as they pass beneath.


Pretty surprising to me. But nice, in a poignant and sad sort of way (given CA's idiocy). Also saw a T-Rump canvasser walking on the street in a nearby area yesterday. Now that I found astonishing. Could be a GOP GOTV effort, I guess.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 01:03 PM (QDnY+)

283 FAB's maid. We all know how badly Hillary treats hired help.
On top of that, she made her do criminal acts.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 01:04 PM (Om16U)

284 We could do a book thread just on cookbooks. The best are travelogue/autobiography/food porn. Like Proust but with ribs or lasagna.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:02 PM (EnKk6)


and bacon
don't forget the bacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 01:04 PM (qCMvj)

285 280 Been writing tolle lege for a few weeks, no one has asked what it means.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:02 PM (sWbjH)


It means "take and read". It's what the voice that St. Augustine heard in his garden said to him.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:05 PM (DQDYk)

286 same here, in every room, the bookshelves are full and bursting, not even space above the books on the shelves, in the hall on the floor, bedrooms,

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:58 PM (qCMvj)


Well, what are you waiting for? Send me a pic!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:06 PM (DQDYk)

287 FAB's maid.

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Did she wipe it? Like with a cloth? Did Bill do her? Hill?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 01:06 PM (Nwg0u)

288 And yet this foreign national maid can get access.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 11:04 AM (EnKk6)


Been there, done that!

But YOU or I might vote Republican, but it's pretty clear who the maid will be voting for!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2016 01:08 PM (wCEn4)

289 Going from memory why I didn't think Rommel had many German troops was he only had something like 1 armored division and 1 mechanized. The Germans still followed divisional organizations I have for my Napoleoic Prussians.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:10 PM (sWbjH)

290 Damn! I missed two. Not bad for someone who can't write. I can still read, though.

Posted by: Fritz at November 06, 2016 01:10 PM (+q5T4)

291 275 Rickl, in that case, can you wear red after you've been to the polls? Or is it too dangerous to do that in your area?
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (Om16U)


No, it's not dangerous at all in my area. I could wear red to the polls, but have decided not to.

Good point, though. If I vote in the morning before work, I could change into my red sweatshirt afterwards and wear that for the rest of the day.

I could also do that if I vote in the evening after work, but in that case the only ones who would see it would be my cats.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 01:11 PM (sdi6R)

292 >>and bacon
>>don't forget the bacon

Have all my mother's '30s-'50s cookbooks in boxes but need to find them. should be plenty of bacon...

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 01:13 PM (d2Mzg)

293 I had no idea but I'm going to wear red Tuesday.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:13 PM (sWbjH)

294 Can anyone remember what the RAF fuselage number on that Captured ME 109 was?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 01:13 PM (d76uN)

295 Posted by: All Hail Eris

Nice-looking book nook, AHE! Relaxing.

However, note this: I see that there is dappled sunlight landing on some of the books. While that may make for a picturesque and well-illuminated scene, over the years the sunlight will indeed end up damaging the books themselves -- fading the spines and covers, making the paper brittle, etc. So if you have any old or valuable books there, you might want to remove them literally to where the sun don't shine.

That's what I do -- I have lots and lots of books, and ALL my bookcases are carefully located exclusively in the areas of the home where the sun don't shine. Less picturesque, but better as a long-term strategy.

Posted by: zombie at November 06, 2016 01:14 PM (jBuUi)

296 I feel bad for FAB' s maid.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 12:57 PM (Om16U)


So do I. She's probably worn out from having to fend off the gropey advances of Hillary's lecherous husband, day in and day out. And with absolutely no help from her employer.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:14 PM (DQDYk)

297 We could do a book thread just on cookbooks. The best are travelogue/autobiography/food porn. Like Proust but with ribs or lasagna.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:02 PM (EnKk6)

and bacon
don't forget the bacon
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 01:04 PM (qCMvj)

There are so many good bacon cookbooks out there!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:14 PM (EnKk6)

298 280 ... Skip, I just assumed people knew what it meant: "Take up and read".

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 01:14 PM (V+03K)

299 Heck, I may wear my blue sweatshirt on Tuesday just for the hell of it.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 01:15 PM (sdi6R)

300 DST test.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:16 PM (L7t0A)

301 >>Going from memory why I didn't think
>>Rommel had many German troops was he only

Hitler wouldn't tell women to build trucks so the USAAF had to kill lots of horses.

The story of ETO logistics. I mourn the horses.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 01:16 PM (d2Mzg)

302 Posted by: zombie at November 06, 2016 01:14 PM (jBuUi)
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Zombie, I opened the blinds for illumination and "atmosphere", but they remain closed. My back room would be perfect but that's my junk room, or shame-ber.

Alas, many of the older books have faded spines. They got that way long before I had them.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:17 PM (EnKk6)

303 The Bf-109 had a white 11 edged in black painted on the fuselage. From the style, that 11 looks to be the original German Kenziffer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:17 PM (qVOjT)

304 DST test.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:16 PM (L7t0A)


It works.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:17 PM (DQDYk)

305 Well, what are you waiting for? Send me a pic!
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:06 PM (DQDYk)


ha! oh goodness, no

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 01:17 PM (qCMvj)

306 Here ya go. Pic of that Me 109 from the quiz.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gmf2kqm

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 01:18 PM (d76uN)

307
CNN chiron a minute ago while clown Franken was being interviewed by Jake Tapper: "Clinton Won't Say If She'll Remove Comey"

Franken, who stole his Senate seat in 2006, said he thinks something "hinky" is going with Comey, and that "the rogue element" in the FBI needs to be addressed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2016 01:18 PM (rW4yT)

308

ot (friggin' ricochet)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 01:18 PM (qCMvj)

309 280 Skip Been writing tolle lege for a few weeks, no one has asked what it means.

I figured it was the literary equivalent of Hakka palle And if not, it should be!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 06, 2016 01:20 PM (SuJIo)

310 >>Here ya go. Pic of that Me 109 from the quiz.

Sorry, that was an easy one. Slab canopy means 109 or early Mustang, if you can see the wheels outside the gear doors it's a 109 no matter the paint.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 01:21 PM (d2Mzg)

311 OregonMuse, I've gotten a lot of good reading recommendations off this thread. Thank you to you and all the commenters!

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 06, 2016 01:21 PM (+8tiN)

312 108 @99 The entire detail history of the Battle of the Bulge has changed in the last 30 years. There was a long-running assumption (by Ike among others) that the entire North Shoulder action was a rout. It was All About Bastogne, for decades and decades. Having read a "complete" history of WWI published right after the War, I can attest that this is very much the pattern in military history. "The Victors" get it wrong, a lot.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 11:00 AM (

9/6/1986
To: WW2 Military History Writers Association
From: North Wing VIII Corp and South Wing V Corps
Re: Your recounting of events

Sirs,

ASSHOLES! Get it right!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 06, 2016 01:22 PM (FtrY1)

313 >>>Has anyone read the CS Lewis sci fi book "That Hideous Strength?"

Yes. He aptly satirized the liberal elite in that, but really, I wonder what he was smoking when he wrote that.

Merlin the magician? Mr. Bultitude the Bear? WTF?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:23 PM (dtWKK)

314 OregonMuse, I've gotten a lot of good reading recommendations off this thread. Thank you to you and all the commenters!

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 06, 2016 01:21 PM (+8tiN)


Excellent! I'm glad to see that the book thread is doing its job.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:23 PM (DQDYk)

315 Dude was a prophet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 12:40 PM

Not sure if he was a prophet or if he had a sort of "advance copy" of prog societal blueprint from socialist colleagues. After all, academe is the breeding ground for dreadful ideas, and he probably learned about their bullshit before it "caught on".
I remember reading about Cloward Piven strategies in the 70s, and it took over 40 years to see the donks actually do it. Academe.

Posted by: Cn at November 06, 2016 01:24 PM (wczgi)

316 Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2016 01:21 PM (d2Mzg)

You are saying the link I posted is not the Aircraft from the Quiz?

Alrighty then.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 01:25 PM (d76uN)

317 Thanks Tim. That is a standard Bf-109F-4 it looks like. There are no small oil cooler scoops on the nose. The definitive proof if it was a G would be the oil cooler under the nose, on the Gustav with the DB605 it is deeper than on the Friedrich.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:25 PM (qVOjT)

318 >>FAB's maid. We all know how badly Hillary treats hired help.

On top of that, she made her do criminal acts.

She had her maid printing off highly classified docs, unsupervised, when she was not home. Gee, ever think she was tempted to print off two copies to sell to someone else? Not like FAB likely pays her well.

This is so unbelievably stupid and carelees on Hillary's part. Just....wow.



Posted by: Lizzy at November 06, 2016 01:27 PM (NOIQH)

319 Austyn Crites email appears to be huero83 at yahoo. Huero is spanish for blond haired or fair person( im guessing he was born in '83?). Not a lot to go on, but given his actions, I surmise that he may not be in favor of controlling our border.

Posted by: Deplorable LASue at November 06, 2016 01:27 PM (R2dMB)

320 so what if fabs' maid saw her top secret emails. everybody else did. good luck progs.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 01:29 PM (KP5rU)

321 Look in the background of the photo. A USAAF B-17 with what looks like the red triangle on its tail. So the 109 might have been used to train the gunners.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:29 PM (qVOjT)

322 262 Yes,sadly that is my take.Winderful times in the USA right?

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2016 01:30 PM (r/0kC)

323 I have to think that these future historians are going to be scratching their heads and thinking, "WTF?"
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not if they've also read "Atlas Shrugged"...

Posted by: The Admiral at November 06, 2016 01:32 PM (ltRuz)

324 for a bitch that had thousands of yoga moves on her server, she sure as hell aint very limber. I didn't think drunk, fatassed hos could do yoga. i guess you learn new shit everyday.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 01:33 PM (KP5rU)

325 322 262 Yes,sadly that is my take.Winderful times in the USA right?
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2016 01:30 PM (r/0kC)


I'm sure that in some Third World countries, you could risk getting shot for wearing the wrong color to the polls.

We're not quite there...yet.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

326 I was punched in the dick at least 8 times by those Trump rubes. *sob*

Posted by: Austyn Craps at November 06, 2016 01:36 PM (Tyii7)

327
Franken, who stole his Senate seat in 2006, said he thinks something "hinky" is going with Comey, and that "the rogue element" in the FBI needs to be addressed.
Posted by: Soothsayer


He wants to replace the rogue element with a rouge element.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2016 01:36 PM (IqV8l)

328 Not sure if he was a prophet or if he had a sort of "advance copy" of prog societal blueprint from socialist colleagues. After all, academe is the breeding ground for dreadful ideas, and he probably learned about their bullshit before it "caught on".
I remember reading about Cloward Piven strategies in the 70s, and it took over 40 years to see the donks actually do it. Academe.
--

You're probably right.

Lewis just probably sat quietly at all these academic meetings, and everyone *assumed* that he was with the plan. Just like my employers in NYC think I'm a limousine liberal. I'm not.

Then he used all this info to craft "fiction."

And some non-fiction.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 01:36 PM (hqqM5)

329 I'm very happy about the USC poll today:

With only 36 hours to go, and either only one more polling daily cycle or at most maybe two more cycles, Trump is hitting a peak of his biggest lead almost EVER in the poll:

http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

In fact, for the first time in months, his lead over Hillary (5.6.%) is outside the "uncertainty zone," meaning outside the margin of error -- in fact, from what I can tell, it's even stricter than the usual margin of error, so if Trump is outside it, his lead is guaranteed, according to the poll.

Never in the polls history (which is clearly visible in the chart) has a candidate's numbers plummeted downward 5 points in two days. In fact, I think the worse two-day cycle only erased 3 points -- meaning that EVEN IF there was some catastrophic November Surprise against Trump, he's still going to have a big lead on election day in the poll.

And if there is no new scandal -- well the trend line is still going up up up in his favor. So he'll end up outside the uncertainty zone on Nov. 8.

To me, this is a big deal. Even those who put their faith in polls will have a hell of a time explaining this one away.

Posted by: zombie at November 06, 2016 01:36 PM (jBuUi)

330 votermom, A few suggestions for whittling.

The BEST knife I've found is the regular or short sloyd knife made by Del Stubbs of Pinewood forge. It's a fixed blade, safer in my opinion, and has a slightly rounded back making it very comfortable to control. The handle is also comfortable and reduces hand fatigue. And it comes sharp as a razor. Cost is about 50 bucks but it is a lifetime tool. Other possibilities are a basic Swiss Army Knife or the Flexcut whittling knife.

YouTube has a ton of videos on whittling. Check out the 5 minute owl and 5 minute wizard projects or ANYTHING posted by Gene Messer.

Chances are your library has books on whittling. The books by Chris Lubkeman are a good starting point. Same for chip carving. My favorite is "Basic Chip Carving" by Pam Gresham. Don't be put off by the fancy examples. Just doing rows of chip carved triangles is the best way to start and is hypnotic.

Basswood is the whittling wood of choice for almost everything. You can order it through Woodcraft stores or Heinicke Wood Products which is where I get mine. The pieces don't have to be large. 12" long sticks 1 1/2" or 2" square will get you started on many projects.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (V+03K)

331 So if anyone has any specific corrections or warnings about Beevor's "Ardennes 1944," please fire away.


And OM yes this thread is a great source for book leads.


Have said it before, will repeat it, someone here reco'd The German War (based on diverse primary documents like letters, diaries, records), which explores German attitudes towards the conflict from a first-hand perspective. It also very skillfully weaves them together with relevant perspective and analysis.


I'd say a "must read" for any WWII/ETO geek.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (QDnY+)

332 All Hail Eris, here is the FW-190 I told you about last night.

http://www.nevingtonwarmuseum.com/captured-fw-190s.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (qVOjT)

333 118, Vic, How??? I followed the first part of the book very closely: drops of blood everywhere at Simpson's house, and rivers of it at Nicole Brown's condo. And two blood-soaked gloves at two different locations that simply could not have been planted: too many sets of eyes.

This is what decades of emphasis on grievance have gotten us: a complete refusal to recognize simple truths, and a failure to possess enough simple curiosity to read for oneself. We are so completely fucked.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (uAU0q)

334 Not sure if he was a prophet or if he had a sort of "advance copy" of prog societal blueprint from socialist colleagues. After all, academe is the breeding ground for dreadful ideas, and he probably learned about their bullshit before it "caught on".

Posted by: Cn at November 06, 2016 01:24 PM (wczgi)


I think this is right, and I actually said something similar in a previous book thread. Namely, that CS Lewis spent his entire adult life in the academic world, so every goofy idea and hare-brained philosophical notion that have become a plague on modern life, he would have seen there first.

So if not a prophet, then certain a DEW (distant early warning) system.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (DQDYk)

335 >>>I haven't read The Abolition of Man. Will definitely check it out.

Oh, you must, you must. Zeroes in on the fundamental inconsistency of liberals thinking they can throw out traditional values because they are too "sophisticated" to believe in them, but still think they can rule over the proles according their new, arbitrary "morality".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (dtWKK)

336 You know the thing I get from my wife often is why war all the time, reading, watching movies, painting.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:39 PM (sWbjH)

337 >>>for a bitch that had thousands of yoga moves on her server, she sure as hell aint very limber. I didn't think drunk, fatassed hos could do yoga. i guess you learn new shit everyday.<<<

C'mon, Hillary's specialty was tongue yoga.

Contrast:
George Washington chopped down a cherry tree. Hillary tied cherry stems in knots.

Posted by: Fritz at November 06, 2016 01:39 PM (+q5T4)

338 To me, this is a big deal. Even those who put their faith in polls will have a hell of a time explaining this one away.
Posted by: zombie at November 06, 2016 01:36 PM (jBuUi)


That's good, but aside from being outside the margin of error, Trump needs to be outside the margin of cheat. I am less confident about this.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 06, 2016 01:41 PM (DQDYk)

339 http://www.nevingtonwarmuseum.com/captured-fw-190s.html
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Ah! Thanks Anna. That caused me no end of confusion -- perhaps it gave some British pilots pause? Or was it just used for training/reverse engineering?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 01:42 PM (EnKk6)

340 329: That is very good news and despite the dour mood here today, enthusiasm is strongly on our side. I looked at the 2012 numbers again this morning and was surprised how few votes separated Romney and Obama in key swing states.

Posted by: Deplorable LASue at November 06, 2016 01:42 PM (R2dMB)

341 our role as a "nation of nations"...

Hmmm...so the United State of America was basically the EU before there was an EU?

Makes sense. In the early days we were what the EU should have/could have been for Europe, a loose alliance of individual sovereign entities banded together to help with cooperation and coordination between each other. But in our latter days we've become more like what the EU started out as, a bunch of authoritarian busy-bodies trying to control a whole continent.

Posted by: Snidely Whiplash at November 06, 2016 01:42 PM (y6b1g)

342 Abe Lincoln split logs, Teddy Roosevelt rode up San Juan Hill, Hillary did yoga.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:44 PM (sWbjH)

343 Oh, you must, you must. Zeroes in on the fundamental inconsistency of liberals thinking they can throw out traditional values because they are too "sophisticated" to believe in them, but still think they can rule over the proles according their new, arbitrary "morality"
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Rules for thee but not for me.

/you know, the Unib0mber didn't have a bad idea. Get a shack in the woods and escape.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 01:44 PM (hqqM5)

344 My neighbor just came by for his "Its Sunday and I didn't go by the liquor store yesterday" weekly trip.


Its 12:45. Isn't someone else going to post a new thread?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 01:44 PM (mpXpK)

345 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip


Toll house cookies.

Posted by: Michael Moore at November 06, 2016 01:44 PM (dtWKK)

346 Whittling on soap will be easier than wood.

And if ya don't like the way it came out....
take a bath !

Posted by: JT at November 06, 2016 01:44 PM (EoB6c)

347 Looking at the comments Ace must not recognize Daylight savings

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 01:45 PM (dKiJG)

348 Abe Lincoln split logs, Teddy Roosevelt rode up San Juan Hill, Hillary did yoga.

Posted by: Skip


*yawn*. Yeah, but what was their handicap?

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at November 06, 2016 01:46 PM (dtWKK)

349 yep Zombie that plus the IBD/TIPP with Der Trumpenfuhrer up 1 today plus the signs of significant bloc-vote erosion for the vile criminal dimwit (black and Hispanic) are not discouraging, at the least.


Haven't looked at USC/Dornsife's latest cross-tabs, but they've shown a pretty marked (and logical) shift of a portion of bedrock Dem bloc voters to Trump (note that any significant drop in the black super-vote for Dems still instantly puts several purple states in play). I think a recent Dornsife tracker had Hispanic vote for Le Grande Orange at near 40%.


Who knows.


We all will in about 72 hours. I remain pessimistic based on overall considerations of America's civil degradation.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 01:47 PM (QDnY+)

350 Since it as an A-3 and the 190 had just entered service, it was giving Spitfire pilots fits. So yes it was used to find the weaknesses.

Scroll down and look under the France heading. After WWII the French did to the 190 what the Czechs did with the Me-262. Built some of their own and irony of ironies, apparently the only French unit to fly French built 190s was Normandie Nieman who had last flown Yak-9s with the Soviets.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 01:48 PM (qVOjT)

351 Looking at the comments Ace must not recognize Daylight savings

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio


Be tolerant. They don't have DST on Tatooine.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:48 PM (dtWKK)

352 344 My neighbor just came by for his "Its Sunday and I didn't go by the liquor store yesterday" weekly trip
---------------
Vic,
This has been going on so long, I'm surprised you don't just set a bottle on the front porch so you don't even have to answer the door.

Disclaimer - I have been that neighbor who borrows a bottle more than once - BUT, it is always repaid the next very day with an unopened new bottle of same or better quality bourbon.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 01:49 PM (OmwNr)

353 ' I remain pessimistic based on overall considerations of America's civil degradation'

I believe the key to happiness is extremely low expectations.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 01:49 PM (BO/km)

354 Along with CS Lewis' space trilogy, add his "Abolition of Man" and "The Screwtape Letters". Then there's "The Everlasting Man" by GK Chesterton for a similar theme from an earlier decade. All are brilliantly written.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 01:50 PM (V+03K)

355 340
I looked at the 2012 numbers again this morning and was surprised how few votes separated Romney and Obama in key swing states.
Posted by: Deplorable LASue at November 06, 2016 01:42 PM (R2dMB)


As I said on the morning thread, I don't think that was an accident.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 01:50 PM (sdi6R)

356 Water that firewater down Vic. More so every week. Your neighbor's liver will thank you.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 01:50 PM (BO/km)

357 I believe the key to happiness is extremely low expectations.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 01:49 PM (BO/km)
Right catastrophize so much that anything less than the abyss looks like a happy outcome

Posted by: Cn at November 06, 2016 01:51 PM (wczgi)

358 Aliens (1979) for the 237th time, Jonesy i always thought was in cahoots with the aliens. Read the book when this came out, remembering it was good.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:51 PM (sWbjH)

359 My neighbor just came by for his "Its Sunday and I didn't go by the liquor store yesterday" weekly trip

At this rate, he'll soon be showing up to borrow a liver.

Posted by: Austyn Craps at November 06, 2016 01:51 PM (Tyii7)

360 352 Disclaimer - I have been that neighbor who borrows a
bottle more than once - BUT, it is always repaid the next very day with
an unopened new bottle of same or better quality bourbon.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 01:49 PM (OmwNr)

They once told me they were going to sell out and move to NC. I was happy for a week until it became evident that it was not going to happen. If I had my way we would have moved to MT or WY years ago. But it would be my luck they would still show up on Sunday banging at the door.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 01:53 PM (mpXpK)

361 As I said on the morning thread, I don't think that was an accident.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 01:50 PM (sdi6R)


Like the old joke, "I showed them just enough to win!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2016 01:54 PM (wCEn4)

362 >>for a bitch that had thousands of yoga moves on her
server, she sure as hell aint very limber. I didn't think drunk,
fatassed hos could do yoga. i guess you learn new shit everyday.

Posted by: chavez the hugo

Oh, those moves weren't for me to do. They were for young, lithe women in yoga pants to do while I watched them from my observation area behind the one way glass.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at November 06, 2016 01:54 PM (/Nite)

363 >>>My neighbor just came by for his "Its Sunday and I didn't go by the liquor store yesterday" weekly trip.

Tell him to move to New Yawk. Liquor stores upon up *on Sunday* at 12 noon. No blue laws.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:54 PM (dtWKK)

364 Oh sure, Oregon Muse waits till the old lady goes to church before he puts up a post most prominently highlighting books on the Chicago Cubs. Thanks for nuthin, mister.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 01:55 PM (dFi94)

365 363 Tell him to move to New Yawk. Liquor stores upon up *on Sunday* at 12 noon. No blue laws.



Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:54 PM (dtWKK)

Boy that has changed since I lived there in the 70s.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 01:55 PM (mpXpK)

366 Birds and the G'nts is on in Fox. Getting a piano solo for the National Anthem

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (sWbjH)

367 Mop Secret. Heh.

Whoever writes the Headlines for the NYPost deserves several Pulitzers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (89T5c)

368 >>>Then there's "The Everlasting Man" by GK Chesterton

And we're about to elect the Everclear woman.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (dtWKK)

369 I believe the key to happiness is extremely low expectations.


Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 01:49 PM (BO/km)
--

Pretty much my philosophy of life.

Not in jail?
Not in the hospital?
Roof over head?
Some sort of job?
Able to pay bills?

Golden.


Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (hqqM5)

370 The election this year has a local referendum on the ballot to allow "Sunday Sales" but that is only at restaurants to be consumed on premises. So to me it is a waste of time. SC is one of the few States left with blue laws.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (mpXpK)

371 Not a book. MLB Network is re-playing the Pennant race right now. Cubs vs Dodgers. Then they will be broadcasting the World Series games, Cubs vs Indians. I don't know if they are doing truncated versions of that or not. Everything I've seen up to this point have been full games.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 01:58 PM (dFi94)

372 (note to self, Vic's bar is open Sundays)

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:58 PM (sWbjH)

373 What's up with the post times?

Posted by: KWDreaming at November 06, 2016 01:58 PM (AkcYt)

374 @363...well, here in RI we got that going for us...package stores open on Sunday's 10:00 - 6:00

Posted by: KWDreaming at November 06, 2016 02:00 PM (AkcYt)

375 Arkansas has plenty of dry counties...I live in one. Thor and Mama make damn sure they're all stocked up by Saturday afternoon!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:00 PM (zY5Vj)

376 I was recently in Philly and they seem to have lightened up a bit (open on Sunday now) but they still have those damn state stores. All the charm of a gulag and the wine selection stinks.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 06, 2016 02:01 PM (+8tiN)

377 Aliens (1979) for the 237th time, Jonesy i always thought was in cahoots with the aliens. Read the book when this came out, remembering it was good.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:51 PM (sWbjH)
---
Me too. Cats are mercenaries. That dispassionate feline gaze as Brett is hoisted up into the slavering maw of the alien says it all.

And you can't tell me the alien and Jonesie didn't share a look when he was in his cat carrier like, yeah, take me with you when you're finished with Ripley.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 02:01 PM (EnKk6)

378 for a bitch that had thousands of yoga moves on her server, she sure as hell aint very limber. I didn't think drunk, fatassed hos could do yoga. i guess you learn new shit everyday.

Posted by: chavez the hugo


If Hillary puts her leg behind her head while giving a speech, I will vote for her.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 06, 2016 02:01 PM (dtWKK)

379 it's not reading material, but the annual "30 Days of Dead" download offer is upon us:

every day @ Dead.net you can download a previously unreleased Grateful Dead recording for your collection...

if you're into that sort of thing, of course.

Posted by: The Admiral at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (ltRuz)

380 Germans don't rehabilitate Nazis or their families, but they were able to elect his grandson as mayor of Munich for a few terms. I think that reflects on how he is viewed.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 12:04 PM (mgbwf)


It was his son, Manfred, and he was the mayor of Stuttgart, not Munich, from 1974 to 1996. I had the great pleasure of meeting him when I was stationed near Stuttgart in the late 1970s. No,unfortunately, we did not discuss his dad.

Posted by: John the Baptist at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (MPH+3)

381 Well I'm off to do errands. I have ONE bottle of ale in the fridge and that will not get me through Tuesday.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (EnKk6)

382 S and CB, you owe me a new keyboard for that one.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (+8tiN)

383 Posted by: The Admiral at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (ltRuz)

Well happy Admiral... thank you for that!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:03 PM (zY5Vj)

384 Yep anyone who's not already appalled beyond words at the state of the nation read the NYPost article on the comically illegal and insecure practices at the Beast's DC residence, involving "the help".


The FBI's "investigation" was so farcically unserious and non-standard in so many respects that there just isn't really much credibility associated with that outfit any more (as a bottom line, not a comment on all personnel there of course).


Turning any of this around will require a 180 even more implausible than the decline we are now beginning to see confirmed.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 02:03 PM (QDnY+)

385
I want to sleep through this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2016 12:59 PM (

You can sleep after you vote.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 06, 2016 02:03 PM (K+4LL)

386 375
Arkansas has plenty of dry counties...I live in one. Thor and Mama make
damn sure they're all stocked up by Saturday afternoon!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:00 PM (zY5Vj)

AR is like GA then, dry and wet counties but in GA the wet counties to not close up on Sunday. SC liquor laws go by the entire State but you can have open pour on Sunday afternoon at restaurants. Package stores statewide are 9 am to 7 pm Mon through Sat period dot end.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 02:05 PM (mpXpK)

387 Some Penn State stores are open on Sundays, heard the Giant grocery store will soon have beer.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:05 PM (sWbjH)

388 g'early afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2016 02:06 PM (KCxzN)

389 I believe the key to happiness is extremely low expectations.

Posted by: freaked


Amen to that.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at November 06, 2016 02:06 PM (dtWKK)

390 *looks at clock*

I need to toddle off and write.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2016 02:06 PM (qVOjT)

391 Off topic, illegal as hell, but, message for Grammie. Willowed.

CUBS SUSPENDERS FOR SALE

http://www.suspenderstore.com/baseball-cubs-clip-suspenders.html


Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 06, 2016 10:34 AM (H5rtT)
=======================================

Just saw your post, Stringer! Thank you so much, on behalf of my late brother. Sweet.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:07 PM (dFi94)

392 Here ya go. Pic of that Me 109 from the quiz.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gmf2kqm

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 01:18 PM (d76uN)

The "11" appears to be as freshly-painted as the roundel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (CUYn5)

393 Stinkin G'nts up 7-0 after a interception

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (sWbjH)

394 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 02:05 PM (mpXpK)

Yep, just the same.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (zY5Vj)

395 "This is what decades of emphasis on grievance have gotten us: a complete refusal to recognize simple truths, and a failure to possess enough simple curiosity to read for oneself. We are so completely fucked."

Vincent Bugliosi ( prosecutor of the Manson case, and a thoughtful liberal) wrote a book about the Simpson case called "Outrage". You could not possibly read this book and have any doubt about Simpson's guilt.

Bugliosi blamed the case put on by the prosecution. I watched much of the trial on Court TV, and did not think it was that bad. My feel was that due to the racial aspects of the case, the prosecution had to be absolutely, 100%, perfect. All the jury needed was one error or hook to find a not guilty vote. Probably came when Darden made OJ try on the infamous glove. "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." Sort of like our homeland security having to be right 100% of the time. The terrorists only have to be right once.

There was an excellent documentary about the case recently with several parts. Marcia Clark commented frequently. One of the jurors gave OJ the black power fist salute as he left the courtroom after the verdict was read. Another juror, asked if the verdict was "payback" for years of racism, particularly by the police, answered, "Yes".

Posted by: RM at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (U3LtS)

396 CBD and JJ must be on vacation today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (mpXpK)

397 I know people look down their noses at graphic novels, but there's been some excellent stuff done with the medium. They're as much literature as print, if written well. And I think one of the biggest mistakes authors and book readers can make is to assume you must and can only read the finest possible works of art or you're some kind of philistine. I like reading pulpy dumb stuff sometimes.

My mom feels guilty reading old Harlequin romances but that's just fun to read for her, its no worse than reading junky old detective novels or comic books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

398 Consuela, Bring Me a Mojito and a Communique- a limerick



This whole fiasco is a bit too shady
It's way too late to bar the door, dear Katy
The secrets of the nation
Were subjected to predation
By a Ninja Filipina cleaning lady

Posted by: Dr. Ruth Westheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at November 06, 2016 02:10 PM (wPiJc)

399 I believe the key to happiness is extremely low expectations.

Posted by: freaked
-------------

One of the differences between optimists and pessimists is that pessimists are rarely disappointed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2016 02:10 PM (eMnol)

400 Pants status: On!

1300 hours plus, a personal best!

Later taters.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 02:11 PM (EnKk6)

401 My mom feels guilty reading old Harlequin romances but that's just fun to read for her, its no worse than reading junky old detective novels or comic books.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
-----------

Mrs. Hammer has a collection of Nancy Drew books. Her husband has read them all. Cherry Ames too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2016 02:12 PM (eMnol)

402

Bugliosi condemned the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in the Bush v. Gore case that decided the 2000 presidential election. He wrote a lengthy criticism of the case for The Nation, titled "None Dare Call It Treason," which he later expanded into a book titled The Betrayal of America. Some of his criticisms were depicted in the 2004 documentary Orwell Rolls in His Grave.

He also believed that George W. Bush should have been charged with the murders of more than 4,000 American soldiers who have died in Iraq since the American-led invasion of that country, because of his belief that Bush launched the invasion under false pretenses. In his book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, he laid out his view of evidence and outlined what questions he would ask Bush at a potential murder trial. Bugliosi testified at a House Judiciary Committee meeting on July 25, 2008, at which he urged impeachment proceedings for Bush. The book formed the basis of a 2012 documentary film, The Prosecution of an American President.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2016 02:14 PM (IqV8l)

403
CBD and JJ must be on vacation today.

Is today Chanukah?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2016 02:14 PM (rW4yT)

404 Oh no Dr Ruth has kidnapped Seamus and is keeping him in the basement and making him compose limericks!

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:14 PM (BO/km)

405 Posted by: Dr. Ruth Westheimer



******


Ha ha, that's a good one, Dr. Ruth!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 02:15 PM (wPiJc)

406 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (EnKk6)

I'm thinking I'm gonna need Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout to make it though to Wednesday!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 06, 2016 02:15 PM (wCEn4)

407 I should be in the basement for Phase II of the Great Reorganization Project, but I'm on the couch and just ordered one of Twain's collected works, instead,

Posted by: Weasel at November 06, 2016 02:15 PM (Sfs6o)

408 Oh. I see you've escaped SM. Did she hurt you?

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM (BO/km)

409 There is a weird cut in Aliens at the end.I missed it this time but Ripley strips then sees/feels the presence ofthe alien and runs into a corner . In a quick shot She is looking at the alien through a space helmet but isnt in the suit yet, then it goes to how she would be seeing it without the helmet.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM (sWbjH)

410 I liked Nancy Drew okay, but the Hardy Boys were more fun to me as a kid.

I've been trying to read classic children's books like Mary Poppins (she's really weird and kind of unlikable in the books).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)

411 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2016 02:09 PM (CUYn5)

It was probably just captured. I don't think the RAF would want it flying around with German Insignia still on it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM (d76uN)

412 Not counties, but PA has a lot of dry townships. No gulag state store, no beer or wine in grocery stores, no bars or eating establishments with a liquor license.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 02:17 PM (89T5c)

413 Stinkin G'nts up 14 -0 on a interception

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:17 PM (sWbjH)

414 In a quick shot She is looking at the alien through a space helmet but isnt in the suit yet, then it goes to how she would be seeing it without the helmet.

Yeah I think it would have been better through the helmet as long as she was in it, because the distortions make things look creepier, and makes the alien harder to see clearly. Probably the producers demanded a clearer shot of the alien finally at the end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)

415 Oh. I see you've escaped SM. Did she hurt you?

Posted by: freaked


*****

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 02:18 PM (wPiJc)

416 Oh. I see you've escaped SM. Did she hurt you?

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM


Show us on the doll where Dr.Ruth touched you...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2016 02:19 PM (KCxzN)

417 Anybody know of a good series by John Ringo besides the Hot Gates series?

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 02:19 PM (dKiJG)

418 Show us on the doll where Dr.Ruth touched you...

Posted by: AltonJackson


*****

Well, she is, after all, a highly trained professional.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 02:21 PM (wPiJc)

419 In the Russian Campaign in WWII both sides used tanks and other equipment captured from the enemy. They would well mark the vehicals.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:21 PM (sWbjH)

420 **tiptoes back out**

Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 02:22 PM (wPiJc)

421 Do we have any finish carpenters here?

I want proper bookcases so badly, but it's impossible to get work done around here.

How hard would it be for Thor to make built-in book cases? He has no woodworking experience per se, but he's very good at following instructions, and is very detail oriented.

My main concern is finding furniture grade wood.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:23 PM (zY5Vj)

422 If we crank it up we can get to 1k before the food thread

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:23 PM (sWbjH)

423

There's always IKEA.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2016 02:23 PM (rW4yT)

424 418 Show us on the doll where Dr.Ruth touched you...
Posted by: AltonJackson

*****

Well, she is, after all, a highly trained professional.
Posted by: Muldoon
-------------------

Didn't it turn out to be true that she was an Israel sniper? Or Mossad agent?

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:24 PM (foBj9)

425 Can't decide if we should go to our murder neighbor's memorial service. We bought our house from them (they moved across the street) but really didn't have much contact with them other than the normal "hi, how are you?" conversations that neighbors have.



Not much of a fan of his wife or kids but would not want to be insulting to them by not going. Damn, this is a tough one. We probably knew them the least in this neighborhood. Everyone else nearby has been here for quite a while but don't know if they're going or not.



I guess we probably should go....sorry, I'm just babbling.

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 06, 2016 02:25 PM (Enq6K)

426 The Nancy Drew Series was the gold standard for young kid fiction. The Hardy Boys were a very close second. How many of us got totally hooked on reading because of those series? (Raises hand).


I read the Bobbsey Twins series when I was a little younger. I guess you could call them my gateway drug.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:25 PM (dFi94)

427 Isn't that what you do Skip?

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:25 PM (BO/km)

428 Tammy - A book case should be very easy for a novice. Are you looking to fill in a difficult to use space?

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:26 PM (sWbjH)

429 Tami - can you just do the visitation?

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:26 PM (dFi94)

430 Yes!

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:26 PM (sWbjH)

431 Paolo is italiano no finish but maybe I can help you, beautiful lady?

Posted by: paolo at November 06, 2016 02:27 PM (xIunr)

432 Grammie, I think the memorial is all they are having....that's all that's listed. It's today at 2pm.

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 06, 2016 02:28 PM (Enq6K)

433 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2016 02:23 PM (rW4yT)

We have higher grade than Ikea bookcases now, those standard oaky ones you get at oak furniture stores. I don't like them at all.

We have an L shaped alcove in our living room, about 10 feet by 6 ft, that I'd like lined in nice, proper bookcases, with nice trim and such

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:29 PM (zY5Vj)

434 I read a book recently that was awful. In fact I stopped reading about a third of the way through.

It was The King's Man about Robin Hood. Robin Hood was a Christianity-hating thug who sacrificed someone to pagan gods. As in human sacrifice. Alan-a-Dale, the main character and narrator was despite being a bard and troubador, tongue tied and confused and flustered by women trying to learn Judo from a kid that invented it in England.

I'm okay with a creative and well-written reimagining of an old story but this was just crap. And its like part 9 of a series that gets great reviews???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)

435 428 Tammy - A book case should be very easy for a novice. Are you looking to fill in a difficult to use space?
Posted by: Skip
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Agreed.
If he can use a straight edge and a circ saw, you can easily find "furniture grade" plywood. Finish with either iron-on tape laminate or solid hardwood 1by stock.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:29 PM (foBj9)

436 410 I liked Nancy Drew okay, but the Hardy Boys were more fun to me as a kid.

I've been trying to read classic children's books like Mary Poppins (she's really weird and kind of unlikable in the books).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)

The Writer of Mary Poppins was a Wackjob, she wanted kids because a palm reader or astrologer told her it would help her, so she was going to adopt two twin boys, at the last minute she refused and took one boy. She then told the boy that his father was dead and he had no relatives. One his brother showed up and he was looking at himself, needless to say this F'd him up not even including how she raised him (she found out she didn't like kids)by having one weirdo to another HELP raise him.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 02:30 PM (dKiJG)

437 My bookcase I had a raised panel door, split it in half rabbited out for the back panel, used bull nose 5/4"inch window sills for shelves. The base has two little nooks on sides and a flip top closed in compartment in the middle.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:30 PM (sWbjH)

438 Went to theblaze earlier. Cheeto Glen has gone bare bones. Things are bad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 02:31 PM (89T5c)

439 Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:26 PM (sWbjH)

It's an L shaped space, and I am not worried about the corner.

I want a nice look like the ones you did, and the one from the library last week, I think...with Poe and the cthuhulu guy. (I don't want Poe, just those sorts of bookcases!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 06, 2016 02:32 PM (zY5Vj)

440 Went to theblaze earlier. Cheeto Glen has gone bare bones. Things are bad.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 02:31 PM (89T5c)

It looks like they have only one writer.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 02:34 PM (dKiJG)

441 Where do you get wood for projects Skip? Do you have somewhere you can go to pick the pieces you want or do you order it from somewhere. Most of the stuff I get at the building supply store you have to sort thru to find good stock, and stuff like Walnut and Mahogany is scarce.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:34 PM (BO/km)

442 Keep factory joints for finished edges, I have had great success with iron on wood veneer edging. Shelve edges or any you can get mouldings if you want fancier edges that can be glued and brad nailed on. Adjustable shelves can be done with standards and clips from any home improvement store.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:35 PM (sWbjH)

443 421: tammy i have some virgin timber white oak. quarter sawn. some of the boards are two feet plus wide. nice stuff. kiln dried, needs planing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 02:36 PM (KP5rU)

444 Woods other than the common you do need a lumber yard. Home Depot/Lowes will have basic hardwoods, oak for sure.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:37 PM (sWbjH)

445
Grammie, I think the memorial is all they are having....that's all that's listed. It's today at 2pm.


Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 06, 2016 02:28 PM (Enq6K)
======================================

If you have the time, I'd go. It's a kindness, and you won't have that nagging feeling anymore.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:38 PM (dFi94)

446 I remember when Ace of Spades used to have frequent political commentary.

Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (Q0d1T)

447 It was his son, Manfred, and he was the mayor of Stuttgart, not Munich, from 1974 to 1996. I had the great pleasure of meeting him when I was stationed near Stuttgart in the late 1970s. No,unfortunately, we did not discuss his dad.


I have confessed my double error in that statement. (Not that I needed to, because it was gleefully pointed out).

As to not discussing his dad...I had a crush on a German girl in '78 as an exchange student. Her dad told me he'd been at Stalingrad. (Respected the hell out of the Russkies, btw). I didn't know enough then to ask him any questions.

One of my first real jobs was for a German lawyer named Roehm, and again I didn't know enough to ask him if he were related.

I learn most things in life far too late to be useful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (mgbwf)

448 He can use a straight edge and a circular saw for sure.

I really don't want plywood at all (I hate that grainy look), but that may be all I can have. Appreciate the advice about the 1x stock!

I'd probably prefer not having adjustable ones, but am thinking it might be easier for him. Anyone ever used those Krieg (?) jig thingees?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (zY5Vj)

449 366 Birds and the G'nts is on in Fox. Getting a piano solo for the National Anthem
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 01:57 PM (sWbjH)
----------------------------------------------------------

For years, the Giants had an opera singer come out and hit those difficult notes at the end with PASSION.

Hard to believe that C-Kaep's protests have absolutely nothing to do with this.

I knew the NFL was rotting from within, but the Giants, too? Damn.

Posted by: Oschisms at November 06, 2016 02:41 PM (ZsN9X)

450 Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (Q0d1T)

There are moratoriums on certain threads, since the political commentary has gotten rather coarse of late.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:42 PM (zY5Vj)

451 Work, work work.

On a short lunch break.


Is the Book Thread still alive?

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part Four: The Black Room" at November 06, 2016 02:44 PM (0cMkb)

452 I remember when Ace of Spades used to have frequent political commentary.


Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (Q0d1T)
=============================================

We usually let Ace take weekends off so he can practice his yoga and work on his shoelaces collection. There's books, food, pets, chess, gardening and the occasional open/political thread. It's refreshing to remember there is life out there.

Come Monday morning, misery will rear it's ugly head again.

Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:44 PM (dFi94)

453 Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 02:36 PM (KP5rU)

Oh that sounds lovely.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:44 PM (zY5Vj)

454 'Woods other than the common you do need a lumber yard. Home Depot/Lowes will have basic hardwoods, oak for sure.'

We have a sash and door company here that's been around100 years. They have some hardwoods like that but it's expensive. HD and Lowes have a llimited selection.

I worked on a 20k sq ft house a few years back. Not carpentry, home automation, HVAC control, stuff like that. The guy had wood coming from all over the world. Custom carvings, inlaid floors, customs mouldings, all crazy expensive. I still have some scraps of cedar, mahogany, and some kind of exotic black wood, not ebony. Anyway I always wondered how you find and order that kind of stuff.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:44 PM (BO/km)

455 If I got it one side is agaist a wall, one side will need a end panel. Sheets of finish grade plywood can be used. As I wrote above if one keeps any factory edges out they will be easier to finish with a moldingor edging. Shelves should be supported with a small pin rail or shelf clips. A crown moulding can be across the top. The shelf part is the easy simple part, anything added to edges is what can give you a unique look. Paint or stain grade to your choice.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:45 PM (sWbjH)

456 379 it's not reading material, but the annual "30 Days of Dead" download offer is upon us:

every day @ Dead.net you can download a previously unreleased Grateful Dead recording for your collection...

if you're into that sort of thing, of course.
Posted by: The Admiral at November 06, 2016 02:02 PM (ltRuz)


*ponders*

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 02:46 PM (sdi6R)

457 Tammy,
Some of the pricier plywood can be quite nice. And unnoticeable as plywood with a fished edge.
* My local HD & Lowes stocks maple, oak and poplar in ready to use pieces.

I also recently saw a This Old House episode wear Tom built a bookshelf out of store bought oak stairtreads. Basic, but solid.
Might be on youtube?

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:46 PM (foBj9)

458 446 I remember when Ace of Spades used to have frequent political commentary.
Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (Q0d1T)


I remember that like it was yesterday this morning.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 06, 2016 02:47 PM (sdi6R)

459 Not only are we deplorables, but according to the Boston Globe we are the "leftover people." Story at WZ. Tried pasting some but got 500 server error.

What's wrong with Nascar & country music? F*ck the Boston Globe.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 06, 2016 02:49 PM (Dhht7)

460 There are numerous lumber yards in my area. But anything out of ordinary isn't cheap, but can be gotten. The door trim at the University was all solid walnut. Have no idea what it cost.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:49 PM (sWbjH)

461 Acefam, fellow morons, click the link in my sig for a very special announcement about "A Place Outside The Wild".

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 06, 2016 02:49 PM (rvzMR)

462 I live beyond the pale. I am 30 miles from anything, no fancy-wood ordering places even there.

I could probably get the nicer trim, though.

It's the very end pieces I'd like to look nice....you know, the sides that will show on each end. I would prefer something with no grain, like maple, but stained dark cherry or mahogany.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:51 PM (zY5Vj)

463 Birch or oak plywood can be found a either home improvement chain. Birch stains well.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:52 PM (sWbjH)

464 'Not only are we deplorables, but according to the Boston Globe we are the "leftover people." '


Tonight I will have a ham sandwich made from the leftover Honey Ham we had for lunch. I am a proudly deplorable leftover person.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:53 PM (BO/km)

465 20k? Holy shit, big house.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 06, 2016 02:53 PM (89T5c)

466 459: leftover deplorables. that would be me. sounds great. of course i'm irredeemable too.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 02:53 PM (KP5rU)

467 And I want a lovely French polish on it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:53 PM (zY5Vj)

468 Guido you might, you know, look around a bit and find an unusual (but normal for the circumstances) ace note on Fri. that he might pop up to do posts on major breaking developments. Plus if you read here very often you'd know weekends are sparse for political postings, yet political discussions abound in the comments, incl. here in the book thread (where no category of comments is discouraged or forbidden).


Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

469 As I said the sides and back are whats holding it up, you don't really see the insides much. Outside trim is the show piece.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:54 PM (sWbjH)

470 '20k? Holy shit, big house'

Yea. This house had a rotunda and eight car garage. I did the theater room too. Over 100k of electronics in that room alone.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:57 PM (BO/km)

471 now that jayzee,beyonce, katy perry, bon jovi, and lebron came out, i know who to vote for. i was lost in a dream before those fucktards told me what i need to know. thanks starfuckers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 06, 2016 02:57 PM (KP5rU)

472 Not that this is loosing my interest but is there s new thread? Haven't looked.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:58 PM (sWbjH)

473 Finished reading "Son of the Black Sword" by Larry Correia and recommend it highly. It won the first Dragon Award for best fantasy, and I can see why. I thought at first it was going to be a knock-off of Elric of Melnibone by Michael Moorcock, but it's not. The cool sword holds memories, not souls. The hero isn't depressing. And there's a librarian
Started "Hard Magic" by same author.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at November 06, 2016 02:58 PM (THS4q)

474 12 separate HVAC systems on geothermal loops.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 02:58 PM (BO/km)

475 Not that this is loosing my interest but is there s new thread? Haven't looked.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:58 PM (sWbjH)


We're being punished. One of you MUST have said something.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Ashamed, I say.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 02:59 PM (Pz4pT)

476 Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 02:54 PM (sWbjH)

Yes, I could settle for plywood on the parts that won't show as much.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 02:59 PM (zY5Vj)

477 Bander, her father had been at Stalingrad? Certainly possible, though if he had been taken prisoner there the odds of his surviving captivity were slim.


A former something or other of mine's father had been a POW in the USSR, but I believe got polio or something for his trouble, survived captivity, but died in his early 50s in poor health. Never did ask any details about his service - that seems odd, thinking about it now.


I of course forget the numbers but of the prisoners taken at Stalingrad few survived through the end of the war. German POW mortality in the USSR was horrific, but I believe not as bad (of course) as for Soviet POWs under German control.


One of the fascinating stories followed in the book The German War I noted far above were the letters/diaries of a German NCO in a responsible position at the crude POW camps set up by the Germans in response to the mass surrenders early in Barbarossa.


The mistreatment of Soviet POWs by the Nazis ranks as one of their biggest war crimes, by body-count (which is saying something, naturally).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 03:00 PM (QDnY+)

478 My cousin does tv/sound system/stereo systems for a popular electronics store here. Travels in quite a large area for jobs.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:01 PM (sWbjH)

479 I like to go onto threads I don't like and complain about them because everyone cares what I think

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:01 PM (39g3+)

480 Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at November 06, 2016 02:58 PM (THS4q)

Agreed. Enjoyed both.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:01 PM (zY5Vj)

481 I don't do that kind of stuff anymore. Rich people are a pain in the ass.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 03:02 PM (BO/km)

482 No new threads? Maybe it was me yesterday.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:02 PM (sWbjH)

483 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:01 PM (39g3+)

Plus it really endears you to the people who are enjoying the thread, amirite?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:03 PM (zY5Vj)

484
"Guido you might, you know, look around a bit and find an unusual (but
normal for the circumstances) ace note on Fri. that he might pop up to
do posts on major breaking developments. Plus if you read here very
often you'd know weekends are sparse for political postings, yet
political discussions abound in the comments, incl. here in the book
thread (where no category of comments is discouraged or forbidden).
rhomboid at November 06, 2016 02:54 PM (QDnY+)"

I get that. But like, the election is two days away. Anyway. Not my place to "gripe". Just looking for information.




Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 03:05 PM (Q0d1T)

485 479 I like to go onto threads I don't like and complain about them because everyone cares what I think
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
-----------------

Ha!
That made me do a coffeesnort.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:05 PM (foBj9)

486 What's everyone choosing for their Kindle First this month?

The choices are getting worse.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:05 PM (zY5Vj)

487 This may not be germane, but you want a finish carpenter to do a French polish? Hope they take their time 'cause you don't want them rushin'. End result should be sweet...ish.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 03:06 PM (wPiJc)

488 Oh. I just remembered. It's not really book related but I discovered last week that our local PBS station shows "The Woodswright Shop" on one of it's subchannels every night at 7:00. Roy Underhill is a hoot.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 03:06 PM (BO/km)

489 The Soviets are not blameless either. Their ttreatment of prisoners is equally poor. And didn't know till recently the Communists took slave labor Germans AFTER the war was over, Men and women.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:07 PM (sWbjH)

490 Will's book on the Cubs is not worth your time. It's like he dashed it off while sitting in the green room before TV appearances.

People coming from the north to go to Wrigley can also drive to Skokie, park there and take the Yellow Line - at some point you switch to the Red. Very easy.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 06, 2016 03:07 PM (P8951)

491 Love watching Roy Underhill, he does very nicd work but he does use very basic hand tools.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:08 PM (sWbjH)

492 I always watch for Roy to cut himself on something. Usually he doesn't say anything he just keeps on going.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 03:08 PM (BO/km)

493 The Soviet practice of putting soldiers deemed to have been corrupted by too much mingling with the west into gulags was particularly nasty. Stalin was as bad as Hitler, just less organized and methodical.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+)

494 G'nts 21 -Birds 10 8:50 to go in 2nd Qtr

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:09 PM (sWbjH)

495 Bander, her father had been at Stalingrad? Certainly possible, though if he had been taken prisoner there the odds of his surviving captivity were slim.

....

I of course forget the numbers but of the prisoners taken at Stalingrad few survived through the end of the war.



The point of this was that I was young and stupid and didn't know to ask the good questions.

I think there were something like 150,000 Germans taken prisoner at Stalingrad and maybe 9,000 survived the war. (I've been wrong before in this thread and I may be again). I don't remember him saying he was a prisoner.

What I remember was him saying that as nasty as things were for his side the Russians didn't have boots and he respected how tough they were.

I was 18. I wanted to get into his daughter's pants. (I didn't). I had sort of heard of Stalingrad but I didn't know what it meant. I nodded a lot. I would like to have a do-over.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 03:09 PM (mgbwf)

496 Someone please change the time here. It's making me crazy.

Posted by: Peggy at November 06, 2016 03:09 PM (HBU7W)

497 Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 03:06 PM (wPiJc)

I will probably have to do the polish, but Thor also knows how to, and does a fabulous job.

I find it tedious as hell, but worth the effort.

If we can find someone else to build them, he'll probably polish it up for me, but I'd feel guilty asking him to do it all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:09 PM (zY5Vj)

498 Come on everybody!

Hey hey!!

HoHo!!

Theses old threads
Have got to go!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 06, 2016 03:11 PM (d76uN)

499 Who were the two guys years ago on PBS with a woodworking show... damn it... one was kind of tall and skinny and the other one was kind chubby and curly haired.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:12 PM (zY5Vj)

500 Will your bookcase have knobs? Cause I can polish those for you.

Posted by: A Weiner at November 06, 2016 03:12 PM (BO/km)

501 417
Anybody know of a good series by John Ringo besides the Hot Gates series?

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 02:19 PM (dKiJG)

All of his are good, but his Ghost series borders on porn so you may want to avoid that one. Try his Legacy of Aldenada series (begins with A Hymn Before Battle). Or his March to the Sea series with David Weber. That was his first series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 03:13 PM (mpXpK)

502 Past experience tells me the AoSHq time clock won't be fixed for a couple of weeks. Still wish a number or score from the future once in a while from the time machine would be nice.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:14 PM (sWbjH)

503 Anybody know of a good series by John Ringo besides the Hot Gates series?
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio


Legacy of the Aldenata
the zombie stuff

Same I've written everything I wanted to but haven't finished the story problem though.

Posted by: DaveA at November 06, 2016 03:14 PM (8J/Te)

504 They won't let me near the horses anymore after the "incident".

Posted by: A Weiner at November 06, 2016 03:15 PM (BO/km)

505 Chubby guy do material covers?

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:16 PM (sWbjH)

506 Will your bookcase have knobs? Cause I can polish those for you.

Posted by: A Weiner


*******

ANTZONEE!!! Zat iss it young man! I am suspending your horseback riding privileges, effective immediately, ja?!!!

Posted by: Dr. Ruth Vestheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at November 06, 2016 03:16 PM (wPiJc)

507 Roy Underhill is a hoot.
Posted by: freaked
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I just brought him up a week or so ago. I love that guy. Great sense of humor.
Someone posted a link to another similar guy, but I guess I didn't bookmark it correctly. Can't find it.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:16 PM (foBj9)

508 Posted by: Muldoon at November 06, 2016 03:06 PM

heh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 06, 2016 03:17 PM (Dhht7)

509 >>Yes, I could settle for plywood on the parts that won't show as much.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

You could think about doing a paint interior, maybe bead board back and MDF for the other parts and stained / finished wood for the exterior. Very nice look. The MDF makes for a very nice painted finish.

Posted by: Aviator at November 06, 2016 03:18 PM (/Nite)

510 Just looking for information.

Posted by: Guido911 at November 06, 2016 03:05 PM (Q0d1T)


Information... Bill Clinton is trying to f**k anything that isn't nailed down (and some things that are), and Hillory is trying to sell everything else.

Don Trump said "puthy."

There, now you have information.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 03:18 PM (Pz4pT)

511 Sproles almost ran a punt return for a touchdown, stepped out at the 14 by a defender.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH)

512 Who were the two guys years ago on PBS with a woodworking show... damn
it... one was kind of tall and skinny and the other one was kind chubby
and curly haired.


Could be the Woodwrights Shop which is still on.

Also Woodcarving with Rick Butz,

Posted by: Bruce at November 06, 2016 03:19 PM (8ikIW)

513 nood finally

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 06, 2016 03:20 PM (mpXpK)

514 We should do a book exchange, send each other books that we like. I say this mostly because I want a bunch of free books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:20 PM (39g3+)

515 MDF for paint, Birch plywood for stain.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:20 PM (sWbjH)

516
Oh. I just remembered. It's not really book related but I discovered
last week that our local PBS station shows "The Woodswright Shop" on one
of it's subchannels every night at 7:00. Roy Underhill is a hoot. Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 03:06 PM (BO/km)
=====

Gives me a serious and probably terminal case of Tool Envy. The guy is a blast and his work is reachable even for amateurs. I love the tools and wish I could find more.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 06, 2016 03:20 PM (MIKMs)

517 They won't let me near the horses anymore after the "incident".
Posted by: A Weiner at November 06, 2016 03:15 PM (BO/km)


Le sigh... it appears Goldstein has become a twitter-pating nevertrumper.

Otherwise we might be treated to an ongoing diary series on Weener's trip to horse camp, similar to Martha Stewart's time in prison.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2016 03:21 PM (Pz4pT)

518 Comments sections can be funny.


Nothing I wrote could in any way be taken to be excusing Soviet mistreatment of German POWs. And no reference was made to Stalin's incomprehensibly huge and barbaric depradations against his own citizens, and others.


But note that German POWs were taken prisoner (up until late summer '44) ...... in Soviet territory. Hmmm. Kinda sorta clear who the instigator was.


Of course I've even read, to my astonishment, rightcha here in these threads, about how Hitler was just pre-emptively striking the Soviets, based on knowledge of some actual imminent, gamed-out, Soviet attack plan (not some vague ideological mumbo-jumbo about inevitable clash of systems). Which is absurd on its face, not to mention completely unconnected to the reality as known from German inside accounts and Soviet archives.


Posted by: rhomboid at November 06, 2016 03:21 PM (QDnY+)

519 You may be remembering my radio show from the '90s, Vestheimer Handles Your Vood! It vuss ein hoot!

Posted by: Dr. Ruth Vestheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at November 06, 2016 03:21 PM (wPiJc)

520 Nood, finally.

Posted by: HH at November 06, 2016 03:21 PM (DrCtv)

521 Show us on the doll where Dr.Ruth touched you...
Posted by: AltonJackson

*****

Well, she is, after all, a highly trained professional.
Posted by: Muldoon
-------------------

Didn't it turn out to be true that she was an Israel sniper? Or Mossad agent?

-
Female killer midget. Sound familiar?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 06, 2016 03:22 PM (Nwg0u)

522 If you have the time, I'd go. It's a kindness, and you won't have that nagging feeling anymore.


Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 06, 2016 02:38 PM (dFi94)

Clearly, you're a better person than we are.


We decided against it.

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 06, 2016 03:22 PM (Enq6K)

523 A book club where everyone would mail a book to next person

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 03:22 PM (sWbjH)

524 Just finished "A Place Outside the Wild". Way to go, Moron author!
Headed over to Amazon to give a thumbs up.

Posted by: RI Red at November 06, 2016 03:25 PM (E2ZuB)

525 off stupid nautical sock.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 06, 2016 03:28 PM (ltRuz)

526 Freaked do you live in NH?

Posted by: JBS at November 06, 2016 03:34 PM (O++Dd)

527 Of course I've even read, to my astonishment, rightcha here in these threads, about how Hitler was just pre-emptively striking the Soviets, based on knowledge of some actual imminent, gamed-out, Soviet attack plan (not some vague ideological mumbo-jumbo about inevitable clash of systems). Which is absurd on its face, not to mention completely unconnected to the reality as known from German inside accounts and Soviet archives.

Well, he thought he had this info.., courtesy British intelligence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)

528 I have been striking out lately. But I always find something interesting and useful here -- so, thanks . I am looking forward to seeing what I decide to try.

Posted by: gracepc at November 06, 2016 03:35 PM (OU4q6)

529 Yeah I've picked up a few authors here to read. I cheat and read them out of the library when possible, so I can see if they're any good. I don't have the scratch to go buy books to try them out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2016 03:42 PM (39g3+)

530 479 I like to go onto threads I don't like and complain about them because everyone cares what I think
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
-----------------
I like to totally derail subject-specific threads with my off-topic blather. If I can do it within the first ten comments I consider it a Big Win.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 03:49 PM (EnKk6)

531 503 Anybody know of a good series by John Ringo besides the Hot Gates series?
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

Legacy of the Aldenata
the zombie stuff

---
Both great! I would also recommend his stand-alone novel The Last Centurion.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 03:51 PM (EnKk6)

532 Who were the two guys years ago on PBS with a woodworking show... damn
it... one was kind of tall and skinny and the other one was kind chubby
and curly haired.
---
Was it The Furniture Guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chkwrQIrEK4

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 03:54 PM (EnKk6)

533 YES! The Furniture Guys.

So, yea, not exactly wordworking!


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 03:56 PM (zY5Vj)

534 Tammy, I loved their show!

And oh crap, I'm getting sucked into undiscovered episodes on YouTube.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 03:58 PM (EnKk6)

535 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 02:19 PM (dKiJG)

If you like Correia's MHI series, Ringo's first book in that universe, Grunge (MHI Memoirs #1) I liked a lot, and look forward to his next book coming soon.

Posted by: waelse1 at November 06, 2016 04:01 PM (WSNPg)

536 youtube is the fucking bomb-diggitty, and my biggest online time-suck, by far.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at November 06, 2016 04:02 PM (zY5Vj)

537 529
528

The library is my first go to. I have gone through the culling of my own library process. What I have now I really like for various reasons. So, for me to buy and follow it has to be really good. Otherwise, library and kindle.

That said, what with all this talk about Pressfield I thought I would check him out. Instead of Amazon or GoodReads I went to his site. It's interesting. He has a good Writing Wednesdays column that includes why he writes, other authors and many aspects of writing. Might be enjoyable or useful for those who write as well as those of us who enjoy what you brave writers do.

Posted by: gracepc at November 06, 2016 04:05 PM (OU4q6)

538 'Freaked do you live in NH?'

Nope GA.

Posted by: freaked at November 06, 2016 04:49 PM (BO/km)

539 I like the 12th Imam, it's very Christian more or less about the coming of the Anti-Christ and Iran getting the bomb.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 06, 2016 04:53 PM (dKiJG)

540 @JTB,

I've been a spindler for a long time. I even had a class with Priscilla Gibson-Roberts. It's a relaxing hobby. I've even managed to spin a bit at work. I also knit so it gets used eventually. I've think you'd find back strap weaving interesting too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 06, 2016 05:01 PM (Lqy/e)

541 osted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 01:38 PM (V+03K)

Thanks JTB!

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 05:08 PM (Om16U)

542 447 ....I have confessed my double error in that statement.
As to not discussing his dad...I had a crush on a German girl in '78 as an exchange student. Her dad told me he'd been at Stalingrad. (Respected the hell out of the Russkies, btw). I didn't know enough then to ask him any questions.

One of my first real jobs was for a German lawyer named Roehm, and again I didn't know enough to ask him if he were related.

I learn most things in life far too late to be useful.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 06, 2016 02:40 PM (mgbwf)


Didn't mean to pigeon, Bandersnatch,posted before I got down treading those others pointing out the same.

About discussing such matters and learning things too late, sometimes the opposite is more discomforting. Whilst I was over there helping defend the Free World from the Scourge of Communism, I started dating an attractive and very nice young German nurse. She invited me home to her parents for the Christmas holidays, and told me that her dad was "very conservative," and said I needed to wear something nicer than my only civilian clothes the I had. She said that my dress uniform would be appropriate.

Loooooong story short, turned out that her family was quite wealthy, with a very nice (and very old) winter "cottage" down in the Schwarzwald. Dad really appreciated my uniform a bit too much, after many drinks he mentioned that his tank unit had fought my (sorta well known) unit back towards the end of WWII. Having had too many drinks myself, I pried into his history, turned out he had risen to the rank of Hauptsturmführer (Captain) in the Waffen SS, joined the Party itself right before the war started, and was still rather enthusiastic about the good old days. To say the subsequent part of the weekend was awkward is the greatest of understatements.

To bring all this back on topic, I did find his company discussed in a couple of German-viewpoint oriented books about the Battle of the Bulge.

Posted by: John the Baptist at November 06, 2016 06:08 PM (MPH+3)

543 Ah, make that, "I didn't mean to pile on...."

Posted by: John the Baptist at November 06, 2016 06:10 PM (MPH+3)

544 Bought the Children's Actions Bible for the grandson. He loved it and read it cover to cover. It is in comic book form also. It does not cover the entire Bible, only hits the most important stories and is child friendly. He retained quite a lot more than I thought he would. When the Bible series was on TV he remembered the stories and could tell me what happened.

Posted by: MamaWolf at November 06, 2016 06:20 PM (PVBzL)

545 540 ... Notsothoreau, Thanks for the tip about weaving. I've never done any fiber stuff but it has always sounded interesting and, of course, was an historical, vital skill. For some reason, spinning has always seemed to me a relaxing concept. And I grew up with stories about hand woven sails and how important it was to protect and maintain them.

Posted by: JTB at November 06, 2016 06:27 PM (V+03K)

546 Thats it The Furniture Guys. They were from Philadelphia.
I often use the material guys motto
Measure never, cut once.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2016 06:51 PM (sWbjH)

547 Horsehaaaahhhhhr.

Tack raaaaaaag.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 06, 2016 06:55 PM (EnKk6)

548 All Hail Eric, I like your library. Such nice tall shelves.

Late to thread because my pants were in dryer. I'm reading "Baseball Haiku" edited by Cor van den Heuvel, on loan from a neighboring library. Next is "The Man in the High Tower" because I like to read before viewing.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 06, 2016 09:49 PM (UwMHj)

549 Naughty Pine, you don't really need pants for the book thread.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 06, 2016 10:34 PM (Om16U)

550 I own both "100 Things" and "A Nice Little Place."

The Cubs run a free shuttle service from a community college on Irving Park Road for games on nights and weekends. It's how I got to Game 5, which incidentally is the only time I've been there that they've won. Maybe the secret is to not actually buy a ticket to the stadium (or a rooftop).

And yes, George Will's style can come off stuffy and archaic, but that's well-suited to a baseball book. The man can wind a stem, though, and Wrigley's ivy has enough of them connected through its century-long history to make the chapterless book a fascinating read and almost make you forget how pompous the author can be at times, but God knows he'll remind you. And don't fret about it being "a book about George Will." He wraps up his personal ode in the introduction and doesn't reintroduce himself until the closing (with a cameo during his retelling of the Bartman game in 2003, which he was there to witness).

Posted by: @irishmikecomedy at November 07, 2016 01:37 AM (eFFhZ)

551 Look, my better half, AKA The Minister of Finance, an annoyingly hot blooded, blue collar Master of the Universe, would definitely wear those bermudas if they were crocheted from microfibre. He would wear them in broad daylight on his sub compact John Deere with the front end loader engaged. That's what real men do. I would welcome the crocheted, microfibre bermudas if it meant the end of his usual work apparel, the cement sealer splattered wife beater T-shirt with the torn swim trunks.

As for libraries, mine is superb with tons of Founder biographies, histories of the Revolutionary War, the Overland Trail, Corps of Discovery histories, and dozens of settler diaries with a focus on we wimmin folk. I honest-to-dog don't know how they did it.

The bad news and good news is my Kindle(s). The bad news is no physical book (ask my cadging parents). The good news is no one can see my huge and abiding interest in Sci-Fi and (tug at necktie), my massive accumulation of Scandinavian noir. The latter is truly a guilty pleasure.

Posted by: Anna Mac at November 07, 2016 08:38 PM (xujfC)

552 P.S. God Bless George Will. Until 1994, I was a huge fan of baseball and GFW's odes. His writing was anthemic. Now I follow NASCAR.

Posted by: Anna Mac at November 07, 2016 08:47 PM (xujfC)

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