Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-11-2016: Milestones [OregonMuse]

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Good morning to all of you morons and moronettes and bartenders everywhere and all the ships at sea. Welcome to AoSHQ's stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like tornados, hurricanes, and the election of Hillary Clinton, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these.


This Week's Moron Library

Thanks to moron lurker 'nuker' for today's library pic. What caught my eye about it is the shelf just to the left of the picture in the center. Let's look a bit closer at it:


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This is why I said that this library was AoSHQ compliant. Not only is having a skull in your library appropriate given the masthead of this blog, but placing a skull amidst books seems very fitting. Books represent the collected wisdom of the ages and the skull reminds us of our own ephemeral mortality. This is an appropriately conservative message for this appropriately conservative blog.


The Path To 9/11

There once was an Egyptian professor of education named Sayyid Qutb. He visited America in 1948 and stayed here for two years in order to study. Approximately 60 years later, a group of Muslim terrorists commandeered several passenger jet airlines and crashed them into buildings. Many people were killed.

These two things are related.

Qutb was a devout Muslim. He didn't like America very much:

He was critical of things he had observed in the United States: its materialism, individual freedoms, economic system, racism, brutal boxing matches, "poor" haircuts,[5] superficiality in conversations and friendships,[24] restrictions on divorce, enthusiasm for sports, lack of artistic feeling,[24] "animal-like" mixing of the sexes (which "went on even in churches"),[25] and strong support for the new Israeli state.[26]

Didn't like American women much, either:

[T]he American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs – and she shows all this and does not hide it.

Oh, and we're all a bunch of uncultured louts:

The American is primitive in his artistic taste, both in what he enjoys as art and in his own artistic works. "Jazz" music is his music of choice. This is that music that the Negroes invented to satisfy their primitive inclinations, as well as their desire to be noisy on the one hand and to excite bestial tendencies on the other. The American's intoxication in "jazz" music does not reach its full completion until the music is accompanied by singing that is just as coarse and obnoxious as the music itself.

On his return to Egypt, Qutb published "The America that I Have Seen", wherein he detailed his litany of complaints. His experience in the U.S. is believed to have formed in part the impetus for his rejection of Western values and his move towards Islamism. He went on to write a number of books, among them works on the social and political implementation of Islam.

Probably Qutb's most well-known book is Milestones, wherein he discusses "the unique Quranic generation, the nature of the Quranic method, the characteristics of Islamic society, jihad in the cause of God, and a Muslim's nationality and his belief."

Also available is Basic Principles of the Islamic Worldview:

Sayyid Qutb addresses himself to the task of retrieving what he regards as the authentic mode of thought that is distinctive of Islam or even unique to it. This he does through the concise presentation of seven characteristics of Islamic thought, abundantly illustrated with the citation of relevant Qur'anic verses.

Qutb is the foremost modern Islamic theoretician for the latest version of militant Muslim fanaticism and terrorism. He greatly influenced Bin Laden and Zawahiri. He eventually became the "go-to guy" for Islamic terrorists.

In 1966, Qutb was convicted of conspiring to assassinate Egyptian president Gamal Nasser, and was subsequently executed.

But it was too late; the damage had already been done.


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Library Cake

(Because everyone likes cake. H/t to 'HTL')

A Peek Inside Hillary's Library

It's probably full of these:

Kara Witham uses a scroll saw to expertly cut-out books so they can secretly hold a flask...They sell for about $50 - $60, and the flask is included, making them a great gift.

I think her site looks pretty good. Of note to morons is that she makes flask safes and also gun safes ("The perfect way to keep your handgun hidden and handy.").

From the very beginning Secret Safe Books was a huge success. Kara's day job was history in less than a year and after the plot was clear that crafting book safes would balance the books, John wrote off his day job to work full time at Secret Safe Books.

Who knew there would be such demand for this type of product?

Interesting collection of books to hide your flask in, including Teddy Kennedy's memoir and Hard Choices by Hillary "Hic!" Clinton.

Hers would certainly be a well-stocked library. Maybe she could hide some of this stuff in one of the books.

(h/t to whichever moron it is who mentioned this on an ONT earlier this week. I'm too lazy to hit the back button in my browser to find out who it is.)


wut


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(h/t to NDH)


Is This A Thing?

I'm not paying $12.99 for the Kindle edition of the autobiography of guitar god Eric Clapton. This is not a book that greattly interests me greatly, even if the price were lower. But I did notice this:

Born illegitimate in 1945 and raised by his grandparents, Eric never knew his father and, until the age of nine, believed his actual mother to be his sister.

Funny thing is, way back in high school I knew a guy like this. No, he wasn't a guitar god, but he had a really, old mom. He would invite me and his other friends over to his house and I noticed that his "mother" appeared to be quite old. In fact, her white hair made me think, "wow, she looks old enough to be William's grandmother", but I just thought she was one of those unfortunate women who(m) age is not kind to. Years later, I heard from a mutual friend that the reason she looked like a grandmother was because she, in fact, was William's grandmother, and his "sister" (whom I never met) was actually his mother. Exactly like EC.

And then I read somewhere that the actor Jack Nicholson came from the same "your mother is actually your grandmother" situation.

So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine what this does to a person who is told this.

William didn't find out about about this until he was an adult. He's kind of flaky in some ways, but basically, he's turned out OK. He's always had a steady job, and did not turn into a boozer/stoner/tweaker/etc. Clapton's life, on the other hand, has been characterized by poor decisions and self-destructive behavior as a counterpoint to his prodigious musical talent. Not sure we can draw any conclusions from these two data points other than: bad things happen when intact, 2-parent families fail, and what replaces them are never as good. So hadn't we ought to be encouraging and supporting them?


Moron Recommendations

Earlier this week, ace commented on Obama's support for the 'right' of Colin Kaepernick to make his stupidity public:

What we're permitted to do and what we should do are two entirely different concepts. Deceitful politicians -- on the left and on the right, but mostly on the left, where this evasion was perfected and then elevated to low art -- speak of the one when plainly the real question is about the other.

Moron commenter Stephen Price Blair responded with a book recommendation:

I recently read Allan Drury's 1962 A Shade of Difference; both it and the first book in the series, Advise and Consent, from 1959, had characters in it who pulled this rhetorical trick.

If you enjoy war-and-peace-sized thrillers about senatorial procedure and united nations procedure, I recommend them. It sounds boring, but it isn't.

I guess that's actually two recommendations.

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Moron commenter mindful webworker pointed me toward this review by the inestimable conservative blogger known as 'bookworm' of the works of author Dennis Koller, the reviewer has come to like. Koller's first novel, The Oath, a political thriller which bookworm says is "a book that seems to predict the Obama administration (if you don’t like Obama)".

Koller's third novel, "The Custer Conspiracy", hasn't been published yet, so we have to wait. But bookworm's review of The Oath intrigued me enough that I plunked down $4.99 for the Kindle edition.


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Moron lurker (and author) George Milonas tells me he has been reading the Bill the Vampire series by Rick Gaultieri, which he finds hilarious. I first mentioned Bill the Vampire a couple of years ago, and the book could have been written by a Moron.

The main character of this series is Bill Ryder,

...a dateless geek, but then he met a girl to die for. So he did. Unfortunately for him, that was just the beginning of his troubles. He awoke as a vampire, one of the legendary predators of the night. Sadly, fangs or not, he was still at the bottom of the food chain. Now he finds himself surrounded by creatures stronger, deadlier, and a lot cooler than he is ... and they all want to kick his teeth in.

This Kindle compilation of the 4 book series can be purchased for $6.99, or Prime members can read it for free.


What I'm Reading

World War II bequeathed us two advances much used by science fiction writers: atomic power and functional rocketry. It was only natural to combine the two, to imagine an atomic-powered rocket. That sounds pretty sexy, but atomic power really doesn't lend itself to jet/rocket propulsion. All it really does it heat stuff up. Atomic reactors are basically giant steam engines: the atomic pile is used to heat water which is used to drive a turbine that generates electricity (Faraday's Law FTW!). Huge amounts of electricity. Enough to power entire cities.

I've been thinking about this since I've started on the Heinlein juvey classic Rocket Ship Galileo. This book features an atomic powered rocket, and I was curious to see if a Heinlein was going to describe a mechanism or just do a bit of hand-waving. He did not disappoint. I'm not convinced, but he deserves props for trying. The atomic engine that the scientist uncle of one of the main characters constructed used radioactive thorium (not uranium) to heat zinc(!) to the evaporation point and then shoots the steam out the back of the ship as a jet and that's how he managed to get atomic propulsion that worked in the vacuum of space.

Don't know if that could ever work, but it at least sounds half-way plausible, at least to an untutored guy like me. Rocket Ship Galileo is a fun book (which, oddly enough, I've never read in my life until this month), as are pretty much all of Heinlein's juveys. Although I do have to chuckle at the quaint notion that Heinlein evidently had back in those days that the United Nations was a benign organization and not a viper's nest full of America-hating Euroweenie socialists, rat bastard commies, and corrupt, third-world kleptocrats.

Another way atomics could be used in space ships would be with that new proposed EM Drive (where microwaves are bounced off the the walls of a metal chamber and this somehow generates thrust - don't ask me how, I absolute do not understand how it works). You could have an atomic pile on board which can produce electricity which can be used to generate the necessary microwaves. Or, it might be easier just to use solar.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Good morning bookworms

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 08:58 AM (0G2eQ)

2 On last chapter of The Mauritius Command by Patrick O'Brian

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 08:58 AM (0G2eQ)

3 I have moved on to a re-read of the WEB Griffin Marine Corps series. Those of you who like military novels and have not done so should definitely visit his series on the Army and the Marines.




And on another note related to books, I finally got my copy of this year's Old Farmers Almanac. After 225 years they have decided to become like the rest of the liberal trash magazines and start with "green propaganda BS". I haven't read it all yet, but after decades of getting this almanac this may be my last year.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

4 That cake is to delicious to eat

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 09:00 AM (0G2eQ)

5 I'm not paying $12.99 for the Kindle edition of the autobiography of guitar god Eric Clapton. This is not a book that greattly interests me greatly, even if the price were lower.


Ha OM; are you finally joining me in refusing to pay more than $10 for any e-book?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

6 Around here in the hood the grandmother is likely the child's caretaker and the mother is in jail or gone.

Posted by: freaked at September 11, 2016 09:06 AM (BO/km)

7 Watching the 9/11 memorial. sigh.

Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 09:06 AM (11H2y)

8
"The Surprising Intersection of Islam and Scifi"

All together now. You know how the song goes!:

"Back when Europe was going through the Middle Ages, Islam was having a golden age of scientific and mathematic discovery...:

http://tinyurl.com/jq2pxbo

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 09:07 AM (kdS6q)

9 Still reading "Hollywood Party" and just getting to the dreaded blacklist. I hate commies. I found this quote: "The banks and their producer stooges continue their long tradition of 'cheesecake' and 'escapism,' hoping to divert the attention of the common nam from the real problems of housing, peace, health, jobs and high prices." What I noted was that the lies, pure outright lies, of what the commies wanted for the working man haven't changed a bit in 70 years.

Can you imagine the orgy we will be subjected to next year for the 100th anniversary of hell on earth?

The current Kindle book is Jay Nordlinger's on the children of various horrible dictators. Not very far into it, just on Mussolini's children who seem morally vapid.

And I have read most of "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" by Marie Kondo, who seems to have suffered from OCD from a very early age. Also, anyone who says that if you haven't read a book, you never will and so should get rid of them is clearly nuts.

Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2016 09:08 AM (VsZJP)

10 A nuclear powered space ship (outside the atmosphere, between planets) could be used to power an ion drive. It would make prodigious amounts of electricity, which would power the ion drive.
Ion drives have low specific impulse (g-acceleration), but are incredibly efficient compared to chemical rockets. And they are on continuously. So can accelerate a space ship to a pretty high velocity.

Read "Rocket Ship Galileo" years ago as a juvenile myself. And it has Nazis too.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...deplorable American at September 11, 2016 09:08 AM (S6Pax)

11 Qutb was like one of the founders of the Muslim Brotherhood iirc, or the inspiration. The west offended his delicate sensibilities and American women probably wouldn't give his stinky ass the time of day.

Maybe 'stinky ass' is too lowbrow for the book thread. So please replace with 'odoriferous buttocks'.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 11, 2016 09:09 AM (ZFUt7)

12
An Encyclopedia of Every Literary Plot, Ever

www.vulture.com/2016/08/encyclopedia-of-every-literary-plot-ever.html

Not the first of these, and there's always an argument about just how many standard plots there are, but a pretty good list with examples.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 09:09 AM (kdS6q)

13 LOL OM, when I was in grammar School I recall an article about a new type of rocket that would be driven by a nuclear reactor in the tail of the rocket that ejected ions for propulsion. It was supposed to be the "new thing". All things were "nuclear" back then, even the kitschy Japanese monsters.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

14 Nuclear rockets have been heavily studied.The bias against anything nuclear has prevented their use.

http://www.astronautix.com/n/nerva.html

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)

15 '[T]he American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs and she shows all this and does not hide it.'


Guy needed to meet Trigglypuff. Might have changed the course of history.

Posted by: freaked at September 11, 2016 09:12 AM (BO/km)

16 OregonMuse, look up NERVA. Atomic rocket engines were actually a thing we built and tested; they were intended for the follow-up to the Apollo moon landings. They were basically liquid hydrogen steam engines, because low molecular weight makes for better efficiency in a nuclear rocket. (Zinc would actually be a really crappy choice)

Posted by: Locarno at September 11, 2016 09:13 AM (Nu+yb)

17
So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine what this does to a person who is told this.


My current MiL is the child; her oldest "sister" is her biological mother. Her grandparents were her parents. MiL is very Catholic and the subject, so far as she knows, isn't known by her own children so it never comes up.

My wife, however, had heard rumors when she was younger and then actually saw her mother's birth or baptismal certificate, on which the truth was spelled out, at the family home after the last relative living there died about a decade ago. If anyone is afflicted by this fact it is Mrs. Krebs, who felt compelled to tell her siblings, who most of whom did not want to hear it.

Life goes on.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2016 09:14 AM (BK3ZS)

18 Speaking of Kaboom!: An SAS sniper took out an ISIS executioner who was getting ready to incinerate 12 civilians w/a flame thrower. The secondary explosion killed 3 other ISIS asses who were there to film. The 12 hostages were rescued. Weapon of choice? Barrett .50.
KA-boom.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2016 09:19 AM (SeD0w)

19
that the United Nations was a benign organization and not a viper's nest
full of America-hating Euroweenie socialists, rat bastard commies, and
corrupt, third-world kleptocrats.









You're being entirely too gentle with them, you RINO.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 09:19 AM (LuZz8)

20
18
Speaking of Kaboom!: An SAS sniper took out an ISIS executioner who was
getting ready to incinerate 12 civilians w/a flame thrower. The
secondary explosion killed 3 other ISIS asses who were there to film.
The 12 hostages were rescued. Weapon of choice? Barrett .50.

KA-boom.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2016 09:19 AM (SeD0w)






Please tell me there's video. That'd be even more satisfying that WZ's Flying Jihadis.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 09:21 AM (LuZz8)

21 Interesting collection of books to hide your flask in, including Teddy Kennedy's memoir and Hard Choices by Hillary "Hic!" Clinton.

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That reminds me of the scene in "North by Northwest" after Cary Grant is forced to get drunk & get behind the wheel of a car. The next day he brings his mother & the police to the home where it happened, and instead of a bar, there was a case of books. His mother dryly remarks "I remember when they came in bottles."

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:21 AM (7qAYi)

22 NOT A SQUIRREL!

Please tell me there's video.

It's at Daily Mail, not sure...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2016 09:22 AM (SeD0w)

23
Shorter Sayyid Qutb:

You Americans are all a Basket of Deplorables.*









*Interesting unknown historical fact:
Sayyid Qutb,
while visiting one of the pyramids of Egypt fell into a time warp nexus where he arrived in 2016 and had a conversation with Hillary Clinton about her fellow Americans before returning home and writing his book.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2016 09:22 AM (HGtd0)

24 I read a short story mentioned on one of the threads during the week. It's The New Utopia by Jerome K. Jerome. Written in 1891, it's a short, scathing satire skewering socialism and provided many laugh out loud moments for this reader. The opening paragraph:

"I had spend an extremely interesting evening. I had dined with some very 'advanced' friends of mine at the 'National Socialist Club'. We had an excellent dinner: the pheasant, stuffed with truffles, was a poem; and when I say that the '49 Chateau Lafitte was worth the price we had to pay for it, I do not see what more I can add in its favor."

This reminded me of the Hollywood global warmist types with their five or six mansions scattered across the globe and flying to them once a year on private jets.

I also read Speaker for the Dead, the sequel to Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. As much as I liked Ender's, I liked Speaker even more. I thought the story was complex and the world of Lusitania developed by Card was interesting, mysterious, and unlike any other I have read about. Great characters and a great furthering of Ender's story.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 11, 2016 09:23 AM (JYer2)

25
I'm reading The Fatal Shore, Robert Hughes account of Australia's founding as a penal colony. It is has been on my "to read" list since it first came out decades ago. I acquired it at a library or used book sale a few years ago.

Speaking of used book sales, the Lewes, DE Library's used book sale was rescheduled from the Saturday of Labor Day weekend to Saturday, October 1. The reason was the relication of the library into a new building next door to the old one. Any of all y'all are welcome to come, but stay out of the science / technical / reference sections until I'm done ( ;-) ). I'll be there with the woman with the Portuguese Water Dog; the sale starts at 10:00 AM.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2016 09:23 AM (BK3ZS)

26 Among the horrors that Qutb witnessed in his time in America was people adding sugar to tea, and salt to watermelon.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:24 AM (7qAYi)

27 Oh God, the EM drive. Don't feel bad. Nobody knows how it's supposed to work--or even sure it really does.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 09:24 AM (vyqqu)

28 Speaking of used book sales, the Lewes, DE Library's used book sale was rescheduled from the Saturday of Labor Day weekend to Saturday, October 1. The reason was the relication of the library into a new building next door to the old one. Any of all y'all are welcome to come, but stay out of the science / technical / reference sections until I'm done ( ;-) ). I'll be there with the woman with the Portuguese Water Dog; the sale starts at 10:00 AM.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2016 09:23 AM (BK3ZS)

Oh, I would, but I'm going to be in New York that day, visiting the Strand book store.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:25 AM (7qAYi)

29 Among the horrors that Qutb witnessed in his time in America was people adding sugar to tea, and salt to watermelon.



Posted by: josephistan


Truth be told, people confusing "sweetened tea" and "sweet tea" is pretty fatwa-worthy.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 09:25 AM (vyqqu)

30 Nice to see Allen Drury's books mentioned. The later books in the series were critically derided for "strident anti-communism" (said as though that was a bad thing) but in many ways they were quite prescient, especially the character of Edward M. "Ted" Jason, an ambitious but empty governor elected with the help of a supportive media.

All the complaints about the MSM being operatives for the Left were pointed out by Drury 50 years ago and morestraint.

All the Advise and Consent series of books are now available as e-books.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at September 11, 2016 09:25 AM (J8/9G)

31 So what happens in the hood when the current crop of grandmothers dies off?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 09:26 AM (dIc3Q)

32 Goddamn autocorrect.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at September 11, 2016 09:26 AM (J8/9G)

33 Good morning. Not book related but on topic, I'm at a 911 memorial in Austin. A few pix in my nic.

Posted by: iforgot -- with pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 09:27 AM (aBU4n)

34 For everything you need to know about atomic rockets:

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/index.php

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 11, 2016 09:27 AM (nlpeo)

35 So what happens in the hood when the current crop of grandmothers dies off?

Well fortunately some portion of the Millennials actually seems to have absorbed cooking skills, so we're in no danger of losing critical goodie-making knowledge. Unless nobody taught or recorded recipes, which can be a nightmare.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 09:27 AM (vyqqu)

36

Dehydrated lentils, passed through the human digestive tract, will provide the reaction mass needed to take us through the starts...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 09:28 AM (qul7b)

37 Why when we get one of these stories is it always an SAS sniper or some such?Are any Americans doing anything but taking LGBTQ and gender pronoun training courses?

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2016 09:29 AM (fA75F)

38 Wait, in the hood? Where the difference in age between mother and grandmother isn't much larger than 14? Squabbling over a Section 8 voucher and who gets to take the EBT card on one last spree, I would guess.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 09:29 AM (vyqqu)

39 I had a pleasant surprise this morning-

the mock-up for the 4th and final book of "Wearing the Cat" arrived today.

It looks awesome. (it's an interesting variation on the previous book cover format).

So, for the first time it looks lie I'll be able to release a book on schedule.

So...hurrah!


I was hoping to have the dead tree version of all 4 books ready to go at the same time, but, it appears that it's going to take a little more time.


As a wise philosopher once said:

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The facts of life, the facts of life.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2016 09:30 AM (HGtd0)

40 1. Read "Into The Wild" by Jon Krakauer-
Not a new book, but has been on my shelf for a while. Story of a young man who in 1992 decided to hike into the Alaskan wilderness and live entirely off the land. Despite his youth and rampant idealism he managed to survive for over three months in total isolation. I'll save the money quote re: starvation and its effects on metabolism for Ace's "Tell us about your gainz, brah!" thread.

2. In my job we frequently run across grandparents raising their grandkids (perhaps one in every 30 to 35 families). In our part of the country it always seems to be meth-related, so the 20-year-old mother might look 40 and the 45-year-old grandmother might look 55-60. Generationally a little confusing sometimes.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 09:31 AM (mvenn)

41 Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet?

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:31 AM (7qAYi)

42 SAS doesn't usually use the .50 Barrett. So we can take some pride in that.

1500 meters. A good shot Bob mused, casually lighting a cigarette...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 09:33 AM (tIja6)

43 Qutb published "The America that I Have Seen"

When our motto was America - Love it or Die in an Atomic Fireball. Needs repeating.

Posted by: DaveA at September 11, 2016 09:33 AM (8J/Te)

44 Good morning fellow Book Threadists.

After this book thread I probably won't be on Ace for a week or two. We just got word that my father-in-law passed away this morning. This is not completely unexpected and he passed peacefully and painlessly in his sleep. That is the best we could have hoped for. I only mention it because some folks may notice my absence from the usual threads and wonder why. As Mrs. JTB is responsible for all his affairs, it will probably take a couple of weeks to settle everything.

While waiting for all the phone calls to come in, I'm going to enjoy this book thread. The maelstrom of packing begins this afternoon.

Posted by: JTB at September 11, 2016 09:34 AM (V+03K)

45 We absolutely need atomic-powered spaceships. They are necessary for interplanetary travel.

Chemical propulsion is needed to get us into orbit, but nuclear-powered spacecraft can then be assembled in orbit and sent on their way.

Heinlein famously said, "Once you're in orbit, you're halfway to anywhere in the solar system." That is literally true. It takes as much energy to go from a standing start to Earth orbit as it does to go from Earth orbit to any other destination.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 09:34 AM (sdi6R)

46 I picked up that Clapton autobiography for 1.99 on Kindle when it was on sale, haven't looked at it yet. Probably a Bookbub link.

Posted by: waelse1 at September 11, 2016 09:35 AM (PQwXU)

47 31, Vlad, I just read an old article from 1999 in City Journal: http://tinyurl.com/hn44gte

My guess, when the current grannies die and their drug-addled daughters, the whole reason the children are in foster care to begin with, are the grannies, we will see children dying by the truck load. I doubt even then if social workers will get over their completely idiotic preference for family preference.

Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2016 09:37 AM (VsZJP)

48
Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet?
Posted by: josephistan



Nuke -> Heat -> Turbine -> Generator -> Electric Engine -> Props

or

Nuke -> Heat -> Heat Exchanger -> Jet


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 09:37 AM (kdS6q)

49 I'm reading The Fatal Shore, Robert Hughes account of Australia's founding as a penal colony.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


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I recommend this book. Lots of vividly described information (if sometimes a little on the dry side).

I loved the anecdote about the convict who tried to escape from one of the prisons on Van Dieman's Land by covering himself in a kangaroo pelt, only to discover that the guards along the narrow isthmus hunted kangaroo in their spare time!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 09:38 AM (mvenn)

50 Condolences and best wishes, JTB.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 09:38 AM (sdi6R)

51 44 - JTB Very sorry to hear about your loss.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:40 AM (7qAYi)

52 JTB may your father in law's memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2016 09:40 AM (EZebt)

53
Nuclear rockets have been heavily studied.The bias against anything nuclear has prevented their use.
Posted by: steevy



Well, a tad more involved than that. For a NERVA type solid core engine, radiation and more importantly cooling are real and serious constraints.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 09:41 AM (kdS6q)

54
In honor of Larry Correia winning a Dragon Award last weekend, I've started re-reading "Son of the Black Sword". I'd forgotten how well that book flows. I've always liked Larry's MHI stuff, but wow, he really shows what he can do with character arc in that book.

If you haven't read "Son of the Black Sword", get it, now. That's an order.....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 11, 2016 09:41 AM (OejZ/)

55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vS-W3u9bQ

Clapton - sober before Net 1.0

Posted by: DaveA at September 11, 2016 09:43 AM (8J/Te)

56 I'm a long time lurker, but this is my first time commenting here. I'm sorry if the details are a little sketchy here, but it's been several years since my grad school mentor told me this story about Qtub. He told me that Qtub spent some time in a small community in Colorado, close to where my mentor grew up and did his undergrad work. The people in that community did everything they could to make him feel welcome and include him in their activities. They invited him to socials, greeted him on the street, in short what you'd expect from small town America. He rejected all their overtures at friendliness. He'd decided from day one that he hated America, Americans, and everything that our country and its people represented. In short, he was a son of a (bleep)--sorry, I'm not much for using even mild profanity--thank my late mom for that.

Posted by: DavidFalkayn at September 11, 2016 09:43 AM (DHm5m)

57 @29 Dude, you should have seen how much sugar the Emirates added to their tea when I was an advisor in the UAE back in 2010. It was nearly undrinkable, it was so sweet. And I usually like a cold glass of ice tea or some hot green tea.

That and chocolate made from camel's milk. Blechh.....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 11, 2016 09:45 AM (OejZ/)

58 I inherited the files on NERVA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA . Thought I would need them for the Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter (JIMO) but it was cancelled before it got very far.

Back on topic, I finished "What Jane Austin Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" and started "On Becoming American", both recommended here. "On Becoming American" is all the more poignant for the America I grew up in, not the one we have now.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 09:46 AM (HmxmL)

59 That and chocolate made from camel's milk. Blechh.....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 11, 2016 09:45 AM (OejZ/)



That's not milk.

Posted by: Camel at September 11, 2016 09:46 AM (HGtd0)

60 JTB thats heatbreaking, praying for your family as I know its a tough road your going to be on.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 09:47 AM (0G2eQ)

61 I've been continuing with the Old Farmer's Almanac and the Collected Letters of CS Lewis. Once I get through the weather parts of the OFA I sip at the various articles and fun facts, deliberately stretching it out.

The CS Lewis letters are in three volumes, each over a thousand pages. Volume 3 is closer to two thousand. So this is a long term process but worth it. Just the casual mention of books and articles Lewis is reading is like a high level survey course in literature and criticism. Plus, the man had a serious sense of humor. They have proved to be a surprise and delight.

I have the Collected Letters on Kindle but don't want to be totally dependent on any e-reader, so I have the first two volumes coming in paperback. Not cheap but not too steep. Volume three is only available as an e-book and in hardcover and that hardback price is crazy. Eventually, I'll come across an affordable version.

Posted by: JTB at September 11, 2016 09:47 AM (V+03K)

62

I just finished "King of the Khyber Rifles" by Talbot Mundy. Written/published in 1916 it is a Bond, James Bond type story before the name Bond, James Bond was known. It is an old school tale of Empire and the far off exotic land of savages beyond the frontier and the people who live there. Specificially, the 'hill people' of the Khyber Pass. The book does have some artifacts from the process of converting an old text to modern digital, if that is important to you. The ending is anti-climatic because the magic of the story is in the beginning, and the middle; the story is the journey, not the destination. One minor quibble, in order to make it an old school romatic novel, the secondary character is female, and in that far off place, a female would never be allowed to lead an army of men, but Bond, James Bond would be half the man he is without a female to woo. (Free on Amazon.)

I spent some time studying modern day images of that area.

Sharbat Gula is probably a name you don't remember, but you will recognize her face from the cover of National Geographic.

Another interesting bit of work, "The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World" by Bernard Shepherd Creasy is a bit of a slog through ancient history, but there are some useful nuggets buried in the recitation. One, humans haven't changed much in five thousand years. Two peace is an illusion. And historians draw conclusions about ancient events that are not always acceptable to other historians, and an innocent person is left wondering which account is believable.

There are some useful conclusions to be drawn about military prepardness; conclusions that have been ignored in modern times.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 11, 2016 09:47 AM (7L5uQ)

63 I must say that it used to be that if a grandmother took on the role of mother and the mother was known as the 'older sister', it was probably done out of a sense of social shame.

The ones I see currently it is much more common that the situation is one of societal collapse and the birth mother is incapacitated (usually with a drug history) and utterly incapable. These moms are more likely in their 20s. I see a fair number of teenage moms (pregnant at 16-1 who do raise their babies, usually with family assistance and often with the baby's father involved or even marrying. So I guess it's not all gloom and doom.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 09:48 AM (mvenn)

64 Kerry asks me, "Where can I get me some of them crotch-drop leggings?"
And I go, "Step right in."

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 09:48 AM (ragzU)

65 (pregnant at 16-18 )


darn deplorable smiley!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 09:49 AM (mvenn)

66 I once went on an overnight camel ride in the Sinai, for fun. The Arab woman leading the our little band told us that traditional caravan bedouins stop for meals only once, at night, to eat/drink and sleep. As that one meal has to last 24 hours, they highly sweeten their tea to 'fool' the body into wanting cup after cup after cup. It worked - we drank about nine cups of that very sweet tea.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 11, 2016 09:50 AM (YFnq5)

67 I read an alt - history book were Romney won in 2012. Come find out he really did have literal "binders full of women", ended up putting all blacks in chains and passed a law that all pets must be transported on the roof of cars.

This was all in pursuit of making sure every woman dies of cancer.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 11, 2016 09:50 AM (BS8yt)

68 Watching the 9/11 remembrances.

http://fxn.ws/2c7dtm

Obama is on; waiting for him to screw it up.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (/4GEs)

69 41
Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet?

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:31 AM (7qAYi)

The theory for the one that advanced the most was that the nuclear pile would eject ions directed out the rear of the rocket. Since those ions have mass the old equal and opposite theory would prevail and it would exert a force which would direct the rocket forward.

One other "nuclear powered rocket" was supposed to be driven by ejecting a nuclear bomb out the rear and the explosion would blast the rocket forward. I do hope that guy wasn't paid for that theory.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

70 'So what happens in the hood when the current crop of grandmothers dies off?'

There is no shortage of 50 year old great-grandmas and I suspects a lot of great great grandmas are pulling a third shift. Some mothers do come back around but in the end it results in more feral youth. (See Chicago)

I see and hear about this everyday. Black families have been totally destroyed but it's not just that. As Muldoon mentioned earlier methheads, crackheads, and white trash in general are all on that train. There's always going to be some of that but it's getting worse and there's no reverse.

Posted by: freaked at September 11, 2016 09:52 AM (BO/km)

71
Obama is on; waiting for him to screw it up.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (/4GEs)

i thought i was going to have a stroke when i heard his voice......how i dislike that person

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 09:52 AM (0O7c5)

72 That and chocolate made from camel's milk. Blechh.....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 11, 2016 09:45 AM (OejZ/)


That's not milk.

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eeeewwww

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 09:54 AM (dIc3Q)

73 Obama is on; waiting for him to screw it up.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (/4GEs)



I refuse to watch TFG bloviate about his 9/11 as a day of service crapola as if Americans had something to atone for.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2016 09:54 AM (HGtd0)

74 I just caught the last couple of sentences; he did fine for those. Maybe he did not make this about him. I would be grateful for that.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2016 09:54 AM (/4GEs)

75 "...He told me that Qtub spent some time in a small community in Colorado, close to where my mentor grew up and did his undergrad work..."

Posted by: DavidFalkayn

****

Nice comment. Don't hesitate to participate more, you might 'class up' the joint.

Do you recall what community in Colorado?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 09:54 AM (mvenn)

76 Good morning.
Just lowered the flag to half-staff.
Never. Forget.

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 09:55 AM (FCGjy)

77
He rejected all their overtures at friendliness. He'd decided from day one that he hated America, Americans, and everything that our country and its people represented.


And yet there are innumerable folks who tell us that we must take in that guy's literal and spiritual kith and kin because feelz...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2016 09:55 AM (BK3ZS)

78 Books represent the collected wisdom of the ages and the skull reminds us of our own ephemeral mortality.

I don't want to achieve immortality through my work.

I want to achieve immortality through not dying.

Posted by: Woody Allen at September 11, 2016 09:56 AM (dtWKK)

79 ears later, I heard from a mutual friend that the reason she looked like a grandmother was because she, in fact, was William's grandmother, and his "sister" (whom I never met) was actually his mother. Exactly like EC.

What???

Posted by: EC at September 11, 2016 09:57 AM (oIkQ6)

80 Hey OM, we did too have atomic rockets-look up the NERVA program. They worked too, and were much more efficient than chemical rockets.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 11, 2016 09:57 AM (N8hFs)

81 JTB, so sorry to hear of your FIL's passing. My condolences to Mrs. JTB and you. Safe travels and prayers for your family.

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2016 09:57 AM (xpSCc)

82 Rick Rescorla 8-minute tribute video here; nice one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB4P_nNT6uA

Posted by: m at September 11, 2016 09:57 AM (/4GEs)

83 69
One other "nuclear powered rocket" was supposed to be driven by ejecting a nuclear bomb out the rear and the explosion would blast the rocket forward. I do hope that guy wasn't paid for that theory.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (mpXpK)


Project Orion in the early 60s. It would probably work for interplanetary travel, but I wouldn't want to watch one launch that way.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 09:58 AM (sdi6R)

84 David F, thank you for your comment. It was very interesting and I'm glad you "spoke up."

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2016 09:58 AM (xpSCc)

85 Condolences to you and yours, JTB.

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 09:59 AM (FCGjy)

86 I heard from a mutual friend that the reason she looked like a grandmother was because she, in fact, was William's grandmother, and his "sister" (whom I never met) was actually his mother. Exactly like EC.

That is like, so messed up.

Posted by: Oedipus Rex at September 11, 2016 10:00 AM (dtWKK)

87 Chi, I will never ever forget. I remember like it was yesterday. I keep tearing up and will probably continue to do so all day.

I probably won't be around much.

God bless you all and may God bless and protect our country.

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2016 10:01 AM (xpSCc)

88 Good morning.

Today is also a family birthday.

One of my personal grievances against the evi jihadis is that they managed to overshadow what should just be a happy day for us.

Also my baby was less than a month old on 9/11. Poor thing never knew what it was like before.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:02 AM (Om16U)

89 Condolences, JTB.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 10:03 AM (HmxmL)

90 condolences JTB

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 10:05 AM (0O7c5)

91 Ha OM; are you finally joining me in refusing to pay more than $10 for any e-book?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:06 AM (mpXpK)


Yes, I've pretty much adopted this standard since the very beginning of my conversion to ebooks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:05 AM (OxsRO)

92 Infidels make me swab out their bathtubs!

Posted by: Q-Tub at September 11, 2016 10:05 AM (dtWKK)

93 Ok, book related stuff this week -

I did a post crowing about how the good guys won the DragonCon fan awards (including Larry Correia, International Lord of Hate himself).

I have a book review of Gen Mike Flynn's book.

I "met" a new right-wing writer - Bokerah Brumley. She's a Texan homeschooling mom and has a new urban fantasy book.

These are all on my blog's front page (the weekly wrap up has handy links) which you can get to via the link in my nic.

And on the goodreads group we are reading Anna's Golden Isis.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:07 AM (Om16U)

94 Shit gets real.

http://tinyurl.com/zfkho85

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 10:07 AM (ragzU)

95 Read Shakespeare's Twelfth Night which has a similar plot to The Comedy of Errors: brother and sister twins enter a city not knowing the other is there, the sister dresses like a young man and they are mistaken for each other. TCOE is more like the Three Stooges level of comedy with the focus on slapstick, and TN is funnier and focuses more on the characters and beautiful language. Shakespeare was a better writer at this point. Great play.

Listened to John Ringo's take on Correia's Monsterhunter series, Grunge (Monster Hunter Memoirs #1) which follows the story of a monster hunter named Chad in the 1980's. It has the same fun mixture of action and humor as Correia's, though he discusses sex and politics more often. Enjoyed it a lot, look forward to the sequel later this year.






Posted by: waelse1 at September 11, 2016 10:08 AM (PQwXU)

96 Reading Tom Kratman's Carnifex. Set on Terra Nova it's his take on how the war on terror should have been fought. Very,very not PC.

*sigh*

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:08 AM (dIc3Q)

97 "Back when Europe was going through the Middle Ages, Islam was having a golden age of scientific and mathematic discovery..."

Don't confuse Islamic with Arabic. Many stars were indeed named by Arabic astronomers, but that was centuries before Arabic science and culture was swept away by the rise of the warrior cult of Islam.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 11, 2016 10:10 AM (LeUrG)

98 Fox:

BREAKING: law enf source: Hillary Clinton just left 9/11 ceremony w/medical episode, appeared to faint on way into van, helped by security


God forgive me for my thoughts. Thy will be done.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:11 AM (Om16U)

99 I will never ever forget. I remember like it was yesterday. I keep tearing up and will probably continue to do so all day.

I probably won't be around much.

God bless you all and may God bless and protect our country.

Posted by: bluebell
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Right there with you, bell.
The human body can only produce so many tears in a single day, right?

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 10:12 AM (FCGjy)

100 Fox News reporting that FAB left the WTC memorial event due to a "medical incident."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2016 10:12 AM (EZebt)

101 hugs, bluebell

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:12 AM (Om16U)

102 Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:07 AM (Om16U)


Where are our "Ju Suis Deplorable" t-shirts?

Got to strike while the iron is hot.

Posted by: jwest at September 11, 2016 10:12 AM (Zs4uk)

103 Where are our "Ju Suis Deplorable" t-shirts?

Got to strike while the iron is hot.
Posted by: jwest at September 11, 2016 10:12 AM (Zs4uk)

Oh, thanks for the suggestion!

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:13 AM (Om16U)

104 One other "nuclear powered rocket" was supposed to be driven by ejecting a nuclear bomb out the rear and the explosion would blast the rocket forward. I do hope that guy wasn't paid for that theory.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (mpXpK)


In one of the Niven/Pournelle novels ('Footfall', I think), they built a stadium-sized metal dome, put some space-shuttles and other aircraft on top of it, and then detonated a nuclear bomb underneath, in order to get to the bad guys' orbital platform to fight them.

It was compared to lighting a firecracker under a tin can.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:13 AM (OxsRO)

105 "Nice comment. Don't hesitate to participate more, you might 'class up' the joint.

Do you recall what community in Colorado?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Thank you for your kind words. I can't recall the name of the community, but it would have been in the Boulder area as my mentor did his undergrad work at U. Col. Boulder.

Posted by: DavidFalkayn at September 11, 2016 10:14 AM (DHm5m)

106 I'm in the middle of reading a book called Limbo, about people who are from blue collar families living in a white collar world. It's about class, but they define it a bit differently-- basically, blue collar means "lower class" and "white collar" means middle class. However, it really seems to mean WASP vs. not WASP.

I'm soooo not WASP, which is evidenced in the fact that I really, really hate it when people aren't direct, and have no patience for office politics.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:14 AM (tvyXw)

107 Looks like Granny Clinton had a medical emergency - her knees buckled and she almost fainted. Wonder how they are going to spin this?

Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 10:14 AM (11H2y)

108 I just have to say I love the book thread. It makes me smile and gives me great books. It will help today.

Posted by: Abby at September 11, 2016 10:15 AM (HBU7W)

109 Part of Qtub's aha moment was at a church dance where the pastor turns down the lights, starts the record and encourages "cheek to cheek and breast to breast" dancing.
Qtub's sees this as paganism, which he also sees upon his return to Egypt. He calls for a return to true Islam, away from pagan actions and back to the Koran-- through the Muslim Brotherhood.

He also hated manicured lawns...

Posted by: Far Post at September 11, 2016 10:16 AM (l7KGZ)

110 I've been reading a couple of books about how paints used in art were made from prehistory (cave paintings) to recently. Fascinating stuff. It takes in chemistry, history, technology, surprisingly long trade routes, craftsmanship, culture and economics. They point out that various ways of preparing a pigment will produce different results.

Master painters used to employ apprentices to prepare the paints and that way the knowledge was passed down the centuries. As commercial paints and pigments became available, that system of learning was phased out. As early as the mid-1800s, artists were lamenting the loss of knowledge and that certain colors and effects could no longer be achieved. That explains why I've read that certain illuminated manuscripts and stained glass windows cannot be reproduced. Even advanced modern science can't penetrate some of the mysteries.

The books are "The Brilliant History of Color in Art" and "Color: A Natural History of the Palette" Both are by Victoria Finlay, who is also a fine writer. Very enjoyable and informative.

Posted by: JTB at September 11, 2016 10:16 AM (V+03K)

111 107
Looks like Granny Clinton had a medical emergency - her knees buckled
and she almost fainted. Wonder how they are going to spin this?
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Where did you see this? I can't find anything about it...

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:17 AM (tvyXw)

112 Rick Rescorla was another one raised by his grandparents when his "older sister" got pregnant.

The mirror___ situation happened to me in 1997. I was 45 and pregnant (surprise? you bet) when my oldest daughter was 18. I made sure that Daughter went to visit my parents during the summer because I KNEW what my mother would be thinking... and wanted to head her off before she started making suggestions.

BTW Surprise Baby turns 19 in a couple of weeks, and is currently at MCRD San Diego.

Posted by: Annalucia at September 11, 2016 10:18 AM (a5bF3)

113 It was announced on Fox.

Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 10:19 AM (11H2y)

114 Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet?
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 09:31 AM (7qAYi)


Richard Feinman claimed to have got that patent. It was a ramjet, it used atmosphere sucked in the front, it would be heated by the pile and spat out the back through expansion.

Everything else, as they say, is engineering.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 10:19 AM (e9hKK)

115 56 I'm a long time lurker, but this is my first time commenting here. I'm sorry if the details are a little sketchy here, but it's been several years since my grad school mentor told me this story about Qtub. He told me that Qtub spent some time in a small community in Colorado, close to where my mentor grew up and did his undergrad work.

Posted by: DavidFalkayn at September 11, 2016 09:43 AM (DHm5m)


Yes, that was Greeley, Colorado. Well-known for its decadent sock hops, shocking and scandalous church socials, and don't get me started on their 4th of July parades.

Quite the den of iniquity was post-war Greeley, Colorado.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:19 AM (OxsRO)

116 Rearrange a few letters and Deplorable becomes Deportable.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 11, 2016 10:20 AM (ZFUt7)

117 107 Looks like Granny Clinton had a medical emergency - her knees buckled and she almost fainted. Wonder how they are going to spin this?
Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 10:14 AM (11H2y)

"She was overcome with emotion at remembering all the wonderful, not-deplorable Americans who lost their lives."

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 11, 2016 10:20 AM (Om16U)

118 So what happens in the hood when the current crop of grandmothers dies off?

The current crop of grandmothers was responsible for raising the current crop of feral moms and dads, so it will be hard to do much worse.

Posted by: cool breeze at September 11, 2016 10:20 AM (ckvus)

119 111
107

Looks like Granny Clinton had a medical emergency - her knees buckled

and she almost fainted. Wonder how they are going to spin this?

I blame Bush.

Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2016 10:20 AM (n3hky)

120 "Clinton stumbled off the curg, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van during her unexpected early departure, a witness told Fox News."



"I shall travel the land and shall not rest until I find the fair maiden whose foot fits this dainty slipper" a bystander identified only as Prince Charming was overheard to say.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (mvenn)

121 Excellent library, nuker. I notice you also use the "gravity" system of organization, with attention to efficient packing. This is how you can tell people who <i>use</i> their libraries vs. have book-shaped decorations. We stack books any old how and leave piles to file later.

Anyone else suspect ol' Qutb couldn't get any of those licentious American girls to give him the time of day? Ever? He should have tried bathing with soap. Verily, as the sage has said, "Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted..."

Note to anyone who may have pre-ordered the <i>Light in the Darkness</i> boxed set I have a book in! The Amazon robots had a seizure and took the whole thing down, canceling all the preorders. BUT! It is still happening. All the non-Amazon sources still have it, and we are in the process of getting it reinstated on Amazon. You may have to preorder again, though. Sorry!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (SuJIo)

122 how can there not be a picture or video capturing her having her medical moment?

Posted by: sypeach at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (nyYhO)

123 http://tinyurl.com/j4tdel7

Hillary, from Wweirddave's sidebar post

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 11, 2016 10:22 AM (ptqRm)

124 curg = curb

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:22 AM (mvenn)

125 122
how can there not be a picture or video capturing her having her medical moment?





Posted by: sypeach at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (nyYhO)
let's hope it was caught by someone......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 10:22 AM (0O7c5)

126 113
It was announced on Fox.
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Thanks, found it.

So, Queen Hillary had to leave a 9/11 Memorial ceremony.

But don't worry, her health is fine. It's just that she couldn't stomach something that looked on Islam/ her buddies the at the House of Saud in a negative way...

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:23 AM (tvyXw)

127 Thank you for your kind words. I can't recall the name of the community, but it would have been in the Boulder area as my mentor did his undergrad work at U. Col. Boulder.

Posted by: DavidFalkayn at September 11, 2016 10:14 AM (DHm5m)


Greeley.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:23 AM (OxsRO)

128 Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van during her "unexpected early departure," a witness told Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-
clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-
says.html

Big deal, lost a shoe. I'll be back.


Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 11, 2016 10:24 AM (ZFUt7)

129 118 So what happens in the hood when the current crop of grandmothers dies off?

The current crop of grandmothers was responsible for raising the current crop of feral moms and dads, so it will be hard to do much worse.

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I hope so, but I'm not sanguine about the prospect.

Nostradamus has nothing on Daniel Moynihan.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:25 AM (dIc3Q)

130 Why is it that everyone else's book shelves make mine look even more like the random jumble that they are? Annoying but not surprising.

Posted by: JTB at September 11, 2016 10:25 AM (V+03K)

131 Quite the den of iniquity was post-war Greeley, Colorado.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:19 AM (OxsRO)


Shorter Qutb: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:26 AM (OxsRO)

132 I'm reading The Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad--which I picked up free through iBooks. I don't know where it stands in the Conrad pantheon but I like it.

One thing that bothered me, slightly, is a passing reference to the father of one the communist/anarchist character. He is described as being a passionate preacher in a Christian sect who has unbounded confidence in his own righteousness.
The thing that bugs me the general observation is that I don't ever seen a reference to a committed Christian in a novel (apart from what could be called Christian fiction) that gets Christianity. Church-going Christian characters are almost invariably painted as self righteous. There's no denying many sincere believers are self-righteous but that's that the heart of the story.

I would like to see a novel with a peripheral Christian who's faith is presented as a positive thing in his life. I've come across lots of Muslim characters presented positively.

Just musing.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 11, 2016 10:26 AM (s7hQ/)

133 Condolences, JTB.

A side note watching coverage of the NY observances. (Would have been two, but someone beat me to Her Royal Corruptness' early exit.)

I feel sometimes like the entire 9/11 thing has been hijacked to help cement Manhattan's hegemony over the rest of America, and I hate myself for feeling that way, but there it is.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 10:26 AM (vyqqu)

134 lack of artistic feeling,[24] "animal-like" mixing of the sexes (which "went on even in churches"),[25] and strong support for the new Israeli state.[26]


What a cretin. What "art" has the Islamic world produced? Paintings, sculpture, music, etc.

And if you can't control yourself in the presence of the opposite sex (and blame them), segregation of the sexes is an indicator of what an animal you are, of your lack of impulse control.

Qutb perceived his own inferiority, and it stung. He was obviously projecting.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:26 AM (dtWKK)

135
Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe
as she was helped into a van during her "unexpected early departure," a
witness told Fox News.
---
Not normal.

Who freaking loses their shoe?

She's got a serious underlying condition and those around her don't know the tricks to handle it-- like only wearing lace up shoes.

I don't wish her ill; I just want her out of the race and out of politics forever.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:27 AM (tvyXw)

136 O/T,

A parade with an estimated 4-5 thousand Raider fans is set to march to the Superdome in 2 hours. They actually got a parade permit and will have a police escort.

In rememberance of the 9/11 victims.

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 11, 2016 10:27 AM (rlfds)

137 "After Clinton left the ceremony, the reporters following her on the campaign trail were prevented from leaving the media area for a period of time."

Of course they were.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 11, 2016 10:28 AM (ZFUt7)

138 "how can there not be a picture or video capturing her having her medical moment? "

I'm sure there is. It just hasn't surfaced yet.

If I were Trump I'd have my aides uncover at every Hillary event, cell phone cameras at the ready.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 10:28 AM (JSovD)

139 So she had a "911" on 911.....Poetic justice..

Posted by: Jick the Clever Hipster at September 11, 2016 10:28 AM (n3hky)

140 Yes, that was Greeley, Colorado. Well-known for its decadent sock hops, shocking and scandalous church socials, and don't get me started on their 4th of July parades.

Quite the den of iniquity was post-war Greeley, Colorado.


Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:19 AM (OxsRO)


****

Ha! Greeley! Someone probably baked Q-bert a rhubarb pie and it left a sour taste in his mouth! It's not out of the realm of possibility he ran into one of my parents or an uncle. My dad grew up just north of Greeley and could have been around there post-war. I kind of doubt it they ever crossed paths though.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:28 AM (mvenn)

141 >>>>Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe<<<<

That's why she keeps a farrier on call.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 11, 2016 10:28 AM (x3uSY)

142 Biographers say Qtub was at Greeley. Teachers College.

Know that scene in the original War of The Worlds, where Gene Barry as Dr Clayton Forrester(!) goes to a country square dance (very short tie)? I always envision Qtub as being at that. All huffy 'n' shit.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 10:29 AM (tIja6)

143 Still plowing (ploughing) through the collected works of P. G. Wodehouse. It helps immensely in my efforts to prevent rage stroking over current events. I did have to research the game of cricket, though. It's still nearly incomprehensible.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 11, 2016 10:29 AM (AY9O7)

144 What a cretin. What "art" has the Islamic world produced? Paintings, sculpture, music, etc.

--------
To be fair, the Taj Mahal.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM (dIc3Q)

145 For this 9/11 I'll reccomend Robert Ferrigno's Assasain Trilogy. Set in a post apocalyptic America. Seattle is the capital of Islamic America. Washington DC has been nuked as has Mecca. A great Muslim Conversion was started by a Football hero, leading to a civil war that left the country divided. San Francisco is now New Fallujah and the broken Golden Gate Bridge is now the Bridge of Skulls

Posted by: Deplorable Man at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM (wNJkU)

146 So she had a "911" on 911.....Poetic justice..

If I wanted to be really poetic, I'd say the spirits of the fallen sought vengeance upon her.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM (vyqqu)

147 104 In one of the Niven/Pournelle novels ('Footfall', I
think), they built a stadium-sized metal dome, put some space-shuttles
and other aircraft on top of it, and then detonated a nuclear bomb
underneath, in order to get to the bad guys' orbital platform to fight
them.

It was compared to lighting a firecracker under a tin can.


Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 10:13 AM (OxsRO)

Yeah, I used to do that as a kid. We would put a firecracker under a small can located in a bigger can on the ground. As I recall the smaller can did not come out of that unscathed. Of course we were using Cherry Bombs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM (mpXpK)

148 Saw the skull, but...what's in the urn?

Posted by: Dr. Kermit Gosnell at September 11, 2016 10:31 AM (NOIQH)

149 "The Surprising Intersection of Islam and Scifi"

?! Is that the story of Achmed and the Ball-Point Pen?

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 10:32 AM (jO7js)

150 "I don't wish her ill; I just want her out of the race and out of politics forever. "

I just want her to stop coughing.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 11, 2016 10:33 AM (ptqRm)

151 What happens if one of the candidates dies or become too incapacitated so close to the election?

Posted by: Curious Bob at September 11, 2016 10:33 AM (n3hky)

152 111 Where did you see this? I can't find anything about it...


Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:17 AM (tvyXw)

Fox has it on their web site.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 10:33 AM (mpXpK)

153 Hillary throwback a shot of vodka and get back in there

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 10:34 AM (0G2eQ)

154 To be fair, the Taj Mahal.

To continue be fair, Isfahan.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 10:34 AM (jO7js)

155 Drudge must still be asleep. Nothing there yet.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 10:34 AM (JSovD)

156 Where did you see this? I can't find anything about it...

I put it in the sidebar.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 11, 2016 10:34 AM (N8hFs)

157 With attended what is now the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado where I attended in the mid 70s. Greeley began as a Utopian religious community named after Horace "Go West, Young Man" Greeley, abolitionist and failed Donk presidential candidate (and the craziest person ever to run on a major party ticket, present company excluded). Greeley has two claims to fame. It is the head of the Monfort Beef empire (that is responsible for the town's delightful aroma) and it is the inspiration for Centennial in James Michenor's novel (and the subsequent miniseries) Centennial. Greeley in the 70s was a small town which would have been much smaller but for the University. It is located north of Denver on the eastern plains of Colorado. In the 70s you heard rock with the student crowd and country everywhere else. In short, it was an all American small town about two decades behind the cool people on the coasts.

And this was where Q-Tip learned to hate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 11, 2016 10:35 AM (Nwg0u)

158 For all the abuse everyone heaps on Glenn Beck, he has done shows not only about Sayyid Qutb but of the Islamo-Nazi connections that date to Hitler (remember "Iran/Aryan"?)

He also wrote off Evan McMullin (fellow Mormom -- because the fact that he was a Mormon led many of the haterz to believe it was "guaranteed" that that would be Beck's candidate) when McMullin, who says he's ex-CIA, called the Muslim Brotherhood "secular" and was unfamiliar with "The Plan."

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2016 10:35 AM (YeKKY)

159 150
"I don't wish her ill; I just want her out of the race and out of politics forever. "



I just want her to stop coughing.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 11, 2016 10:33 AM (ptqRm)
i want her to stop coughing alright......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 10:35 AM (0O7c5)

160 What happens if one of the candidates dies or become too incapacitated so close to the election?

You have to vote for us to find out who we choose...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 11, 2016 10:35 AM (jO7js)

161 Posted by: Northernlurker at September 11, 2016 10:26 AM (s7hQ/)

Secret Agent for me is up there with Lord Jim as my favorite Conrad novel, funny and tragic.

Posted by: waelse1 at September 11, 2016 10:37 AM (PQwXU)

162
What "art" has the Islamic world produced? Paintings, sculpture, music, etc.

To be fair, the Taj Mahal.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler




Recognizing that art and engineering often builds on and reinterprets the works of other cultures:

Muzzies were good in architecture, mosaics and calligraphy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 10:37 AM (kdS6q)

163
What happens if one of the candidates dies or become too incapacitated so close to the election?


President Tim Kane.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (N8hFs)

164 >>He told me that Qtub spent some time in a small community in Colorado,
close to where my mentor grew up and did his undergrad work.


Thought I had read that Qtb spent time in N CO - Greeley.

Posted by: Dr. Kermit Gosnell at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (NOIQH)

165 Greeley - that's where Kutb did his stint in America, and hated every minute of it. What a revolting little pissant.

I'm exhausted to the bone, after back to back marketing events here in Texas. An overnighter to Giddings for the eleventh annual Word Wrangler Book Festival, where they invite in local authors to come in and talk to the schoolkids about writing, and the importance of reading... we signed lots of autograph flyers, gave away bookmarks by the dozens, and sold half a dozen copies of Lone Star Sons at barely market rate because the kids wanted to read a rip-roaring western adventure. And it's my only kid-appropriate book at this point.

Then all yesterday at a craft fair on the grounds of the courthouse in San Marcos for my daughter's origami paper jewelry. Sigh - still hot here in Texas, but not unbearably so.

I have nearly finished Dave Freer's comic romp "Tom" - which is about a cat made into a human to work for an irascible magician. All kinds of science fiction in-jokes and a fun read at that.

Oh, and the third Luna City book should be out by the end of the month.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (xnmPy)

166 "i want her to stop coughing alright......"

*Taps side of nose*

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (ptqRm)

167 Muzzies were good in architecture, mosaics and calligraphy.
--
Yeah, but that's not Art, just art.


Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (tvyXw)

168 Autocucumber rendered "Qtub" as "With" in the above. Can't really blame her. It is a barbarian name.

One other thing about Greeley, my joke while I was there was it's not reality. It's just Greality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (Nwg0u)

169 144
What a cretin. What "art" has the Islamic world produced? Paintings, sculpture, music, etc.



--------

To be fair, the Taj Mahal.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM



Yeah....no.







http://ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

Posted by: Curious Bob at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (n3hky)

170
Who freaking loses their shoe?
Posted by: shibumi



Poor Cinderelli....

Posted by: The Mouse

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (kdS6q)

171 Nice thread, OregonMuse. Thank you!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 11, 2016 10:39 AM (p09tx)

172 Aldo Spadoni's visualization of Michael, the attack ship in 'Footfall.'
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=977

Posted by: Epobirs at September 11, 2016 10:39 AM (IdCqF)

173 I also understand that Muslim poetry is good, although I've never read any. I suspect knowledge of the original language is really needed to appreciate poetry.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 11, 2016 10:40 AM (N8hFs)

174 144 To be fair, the Taj Mahal.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:30 AM (dIc3Q


While commissioned by a muzzie, the Taj Mahal was a work of "Persian" art.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 10:40 AM (mpXpK)

175 107, vivi, some panel on Fox News was just blathering about how Crooked Hillary stood up for an hour to give her "deplorable" speech and then stood up to take pictures with people. She STOOD, don't you understand? She stood. And pictures. Which I would dearly love to see because I suspect there was quite a vacant look on her face because of all that STANDING.

Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2016 10:40 AM (VsZJP)

176 This week I finished First Strike, by Ben Coes. Once again, he didn't disappoint. Highly recommended and make-your-blood-run-cold stuff. The only downside was that the scenario was SO plausible that Islamic dirtbags could use it as a blueprint.

Just started Collecting the Dead, which is about an FBI tracker known as "The Human Bloodhound." It's really not that the character is an expert tracker but that he inherently "knows" whether an abductee is dead or alive when he starts "the search" and where to find the body; he just pretends it's all in the tracking. The author, Spencer Kope, is the crime analyst for the sheriff's office in Whatcom County, Washington.

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2016 10:40 AM (YeKKY)

177
What happens if one of the candidates dies or become too incapacitated so close to the election?
Posted by: Curious Bob



1. I start going to church, because apparently prayers do get answered....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 10:41 AM (kdS6q)

178 Greeley's most distinguishing feature is the pervasive and deplorable smell of manure due to the feedlots.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:41 AM (mvenn)

179 It was just the DTs. A couple of shots and I'm good to go.

Posted by: Hillary (hic) at September 11, 2016 10:41 AM (ckvus)

180
I also understand that Muslim poetry is good, although I've never read
any. I suspect knowledge of the original language is really needed to
appreciate poetry.
--

Look up Rumi.

Nice stuff. But he's the exception, not the rule.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:41 AM (tvyXw)

181 69 41
Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet?

You asked about aircraft, but got an answer about rockets. So here is the answer to your question:

To power an aircraft, a reactor is used to heat air taken in at the front and thrust it out the rear. This exactly what a jet engine does by burning a hydrocarbon fuel. If the air flows directly through the reactor core, it comes out highly radioactive. To avoid that, you need a heat exchanger (in effect a radiator) to transfer the heat from the reactor core fluid to atmospheric air, without allowing the two fluids to physically intermix.

Unfortunately, in space there is no handy fluid (like air) to take in at the front, heat, and shoot out the back. You have to bring you own mass along. By the way, the EM Drive is very controversial and many think it is BS. I don't know enough to opine one way or the other.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 11, 2016 10:42 AM (LeUrG)

182 President Tim Kane.


Posted by: Weirddave at September 11, 2016 10:38 AM (N8hFs)


Does he get to pick a VP?...if so, I think they would be so desperate they would pick Bernie or Liz for last minute swell of enthusiasm. It just might work.

Posted by: Curious Bob at September 11, 2016 10:43 AM (n3hky)

183 And this was where Q-Tip learned to hate.

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As he was a Muslim I'm sure he was well practiced in hate long before he got to Greeley

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 11, 2016 10:43 AM (dIc3Q)

184 Ploughing through my Book Bub backlog. Finally got around to reading "Lonely Vigil" by Walter Lord. It's about the coast watchers on the Solomons during WWll. Way too short. Would loved to know more about each individual and their native helpers. They had an amazing network.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 10:43 AM (JSovD)

185 Hillary's medical episode occurred in an 'off limits' area to the press. Possibly transported to medical facility in area.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at September 11, 2016 10:45 AM (ZFUt7)

186
She probably shit her pants.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:46 AM (8LCz6)

187 What a cretin. What "art" has the Islamic world produced? Paintings, sculpture, music, etc.
-------------

That guy they chopped the arms and legs off of, then hung him on the wall?

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 10:46 AM (FCGjy)

188 Recognizing that art and engineering often builds on and reinterprets the works of other cultures:

Muzzies were good in architecture, mosaics and calligraphy.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

There is "Islamic" art in the Louvre, in Paris. It is not what could be called primitive, but is not in any way inspiring.

The Louvre is full of inspiring art (and some not so inspiring art) from the last 2000 years. Sculpture, paintings, art. Wall size paintings of classic scenes from the Bible (Old and New Testament) and from classic literature.

Islamic art is included in one section, but seems very plain, bland and a big nothing burger by comparison. It is a dull and tedious philosophy and religion, to say the least, as represented by its "art".


There is a lot of Western "art" that is decadent and repulsive, because people in the West are at least semi-free. There are also things of great beauty and inspiration that are worth treasuring and preserving..

Islam is dead inside.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...deplorable American at September 11, 2016 10:47 AM (S6Pax)

189 BTW Surprise Baby turns 19 in a couple of weeks, and is currently at MCRD San Diego.

Posted by: Annalucia at September 11, 2016 10:18 AM (a5bF3)

Congrats! Do they still call recruits who go to San Diego boot camp Hollywood Marines?

Posted by: JackS at September 11, 2016 10:47 AM (hgwL9)

190 If you like early iterations of the 20th century spy, try Erskine Childers' "The Riddle of The Sands." It's very much in the Rider Haggard genre -- ever hear that in a Haggard story, the chase always goes in the same direction, N by NW? -- and was a huge hit in Edwardian, Jacky Fisher Dreadnought days. Parts of it are written into James Bond's original back story. No doubt Fleming was in his thrall.

The more successful branch of Ian Fleming's family ran a worldwide bank with their fingers in everything, and are known to have employed private civilian intel agents to investigate investment opportunities, savory and less so. The mysterious island of Dr No is almost certainly Navassa, the center of a fascinating American business scandal in 1891. It's about 100 miles from Goldeneye.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (tIja6)

191 Jerome K Jerome was a comedic writer who was something of the style predecessor of P. G. Wodehouse.
He was chosen, over Kipling, to be the editor of a magazine, The Idler. He also known for his Three Men in a Boat, which starts out as a travelogue of the Thames valley by row boat, and turns into a rained out picnic.

A lot of what he wrote, and editions of The Idler, can be found for free on www.gutenberg.org

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (e9hKK)

192
And it's probably fake.
Why?

It's a trap for Donald Trump. They're baiting him so he'll say something "bad."

Do I believe hillary clinton is sick? NO. She's not sick. She's old, unhealthy, and she coughs. She's not sick with some serious ailment.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (8LCz6)

193 184
Ploughing through my Book Bub backlog. Finally got around to reading
"Lonely Vigil" by Walter Lord. It's about the coast watchers on the
Solomons during WWll. Way too short. Would loved to know more about
each individual and their native helpers. They had an amazing network.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 10:43 AM (JSovD)

Read the W.E.B. Griffin Corps series. Those novels get into the Coast Watchers in detail. And Griffin is excellent at research.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (mpXpK)

194
Medical episode?? Why...that's deplorable.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2016 10:49 AM (JmjOe)

195 How many of you morons know somebody who came out of a family situation like this

-
I prosecuted child sex assault charges against such a guy. Two interesting things about him. During the investigation, he revealed he had a dungeon on a piece of property in a nearby town. Even knowing it was there, the cops couldn't find it and had to come back for more specific instructions. Also, once he was in the big house, he wrote a letter to another perv "giving" his victim to that perv.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 11, 2016 10:50 AM (Nwg0u)

196 "the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs"

So basically the modern jihad was started by a homely horn dog of a guy who couldn't get any.

Posted by: PJ at September 11, 2016 10:50 AM (cHuNI)

197 Fox News reporting that FAB left the WTC memorial event due to a "medical incident."

Posted by: San Franpsycho


Given her track record, she would defile any such event anyway.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:50 AM (dtWKK)

198 The EM Drive is almost certainly nonsense. It's story to date is classic when looking at the history of tech frauds. The cadre of true believers who keep promising to demonstrate the device in action if they can just secure the funding, etc.

It would be great if it were real but there is very little reason to believe it is.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (IdCqF)

199
Did idiots like Jeff Flake tweet their well-wishes for hillary, yet?

I'm expecting a lot of 'Politics aside, our prayers are with her' type of comments from all the Shits on our "side."

Fuck her.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (8LCz6)

200 Drudge is all over this story. And by all over, I mean there's no mention of it at all.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (0iGXk)

201 I don't wish Hillary any ill (took a lot for me to type that) but....how friggin hungry for power must that woman be that she just HAD to run for president with her obvious medical problems? I think she has bigger mental problems....

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (Enq6K)

202 Do I believe hillary clinton is sick? NO. She's not
sick. She's old, unhealthy, and she coughs. She's not sick with some
serious ailment.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (8LCz6)

I know she is on her last legs. I've been trying to put it off.

Posted by: Mr. Death at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (n3hky)

203 So on 9/11 the SJWFL (formerly known as the NFL) will be nothing but anti-American protests. I knew there was a reason I stopped caring about pro sports 10 years ago. Fuck them all especially.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at September 11, 2016 10:52 AM (y9Tdi)

204 Did idiots like Jeff Flake tweet their well-wishes for hillary, yet?

I'm expecting a lot of 'Politics aside, our prayers are with her' type of comments from all the Shits on our "side."

Fuck her.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (8LCz6)


Sen John McShitsandwich as probably already offered to donate some of his spare livers, and guts, and shit.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 11, 2016 10:52 AM (0iGXk)

205 OM, you should post a new thread on Scankles "event" above this one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 10:52 AM (mpXpK)

206 https://twitter.com/phxazgrl/status/774983506862628864 dailymail

no pictures of her toppling over but here's pics of the despicable one is leaving

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (0O7c5)

207 200
Drudge is all over this story. And by all over, I mean there's no mention of it at all.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 11, 2016 10:51 AM (0iGXk)

Drudge is absolutely useless on weekends. Never understood it.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (Enq6K)

208 I don't know if OregonMuse is familiar with the Orion Drive. The idea is that you use a series of controlled nuclear explosions to provide the propulsion for your space craft.

Posted by: junior at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (YCyzO)

209 One of the 'rons mentioned the Donald Westlake "John Dortmunder" series last week, esp. "Hot Rock." My library didn't have the book, but they did have the DVD. I watched it last night. It was freaky to see the NYC skyline with the second World Trade Center tower partially draped in black as they were nearing completion on the upper stories. Yep, the movie was made in 1972.

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (YeKKY)

210
So basically the modern jihad was started by a homely horn dog of a guy who couldn't get any.



*****

A nicely turned ankle in Greeley, CO could well have been the jihadi equivalent of a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon resulting in the melting of the polar ice caps.

Could have been my Aunt LaVerne!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (mvenn)

211 I just have to say I love the book thread. It makes me smile and gives me great books. It will help today.
Posted by: Abby at September 11, 2016 10:15 AM (HBU7W)

Amen - I really look forward to this thread and the folks who write it. Today it is a comfort in particular.

Thanks Open Blogger for keeping it going.

And thanks to Votermom for the goodreads site and to the morons who make recommendations here.

I sent the Victoria Finlay books as a gift to a family member who is an artist. I think she'll love them. Thanks- JTB

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 11, 2016 10:53 AM (IbfhZ)

212
Think about my bait theory for a minute.

If you wanted to put an end to all the talk about you being sick, wouldn't you put out a rumor that you had a medical emergency?

And when all your political opponents jumped on it, you could attack them for spreading lies and believing lies about you. Not to mention all the mean things your opponents will say about you, such as wishing you were dead.


Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:55 AM (8LCz6)

213 Posted by: Tonestaple at September 11, 2016 09:08 AM (VsZJP)

I was *completely* unsurprised when Kondo said she'd been a shrine maiden. Shinto is essentially an unusually organized form of Animism and you can really see its influence in her world view. Combined with apparent autism/OCD/something it's a recipe for loving the inanimate more than people (which she said she did for a long time).

There were a couple good ideas, but books being second easiest to get rid of? I don't think so. At all. Clearly she is a non-reader herself.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 11, 2016 10:56 AM (GDulk)

214 Good morning.

So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know
somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine
what this does to a person who is told this.



I went to high school with a girl who got pregnant our sophomore year. Her parents adopted the baby and raised it as her sibling. I don't know the ending of the story, but always thought that was very weird.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (+eR2D)

215 So basically the modern jihad was started by a homely horn dog of a guy who couldn't get any.
Posted by: PJ at September 11, 2016 10:50 AM (cHuNI)

What a coincidence - the same types are keeping it going.

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (IbfhZ)

216 196
"the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs"

So basically the modern jihad was started by a homely horn dog of a guy who couldn't get any.


Posted by: PJ


Yes, but to be fair, most of human history can be described this way. Some homely horndogs start wars, while others invent great things, all in the hope of becoming rich enough to attract women.

Then you have Nicola Tesla, who may have actually castrated himself to avoid distraction from his work. That seems a bit counterproductive to me.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (LAe3v)

217 Finished The Mauritius Command
Should get the reference book Sea of Words next, but have had my eye on a Napoleoic era book as well. Have to think about it.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (0G2eQ)

218 The MSM were real interested in what candidates read last election cycle....crickets this time. Is this because Hildabeast doesn't read anything but email?

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (Lh0b8)

219 I like the Qutb your jib. I kid, infidels.

Posted by: zombie O. Laden at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (dtWKK)

220
The prudent thing is to leave this story alone until it is confirmed by the Clinton campaign or someone in the leftist media.

Don't say a word, Mr Trump!

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:58 AM (8LCz6)

221 I'll toss this out just in case someone somewhere hasn't ever heard it. The reason Islamic art is heavy on calligraphy and mathematics-like patterns is that in conservative Islam, it is heavily forbidden to make a picture of any living thing. Creation of life is the sole province of Allah, and at the end of time all imitators will be called upon to breathe life into their imitation, and judged if they cannot.

This is something of a limitation on one's artistic tendencies.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 10:59 AM (tIja6)

222 Torabora, I think she has aides that read her mail for her.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 10:59 AM (e9hKK)

223 One other "nuclear powered rocket" was supposed to be driven by ejecting a nuclear bomb out the rear and the explosion would blast the rocket forward. I do hope that guy wasn't paid for that theory.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

Actually, it was a very good theory and engineering concept (Orion), and it was proposed by Freeman Dyson. Dyson was a genius, and was the man who conceived of the Dyson Sphere (you know, the one that is being built on Tabatha's Star (KIC 8462852) http://tinyurl.com/oyoqbsn.

Dyson's son wrote a well received book on the subject

Project Orion: The True Story of the Atomic Spaceship

http://tinyurl.com/hghhg5j which takes you to the Amazon page for it.

Posted by: Brendan at September 11, 2016 10:59 AM (gkvx9)

224 Sabrina, hope the glitch was truly only a glitch. Geez.

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Writing news, making progress on the San Francisco story. Moving into trying to wrap up all the plot points while also fixing things I should have put in the first time like fanatical Raider fans and aftershocks. Plus revising the whole who is the President-elect.

Agent Bill Simmons reminded himself to watch his tongue as he finally met Deidre Norton-Kennedy. He did not want to become the FBI liaison at McMurdo even though the situation was ridiculous. How else to explain that the President-elect is a 20 year old second runner up for Miss America who's Daddy is a very big fish in DC and has a measurable IQ equivalent to Seattle's high temperature in December. He mentally curses the 29th Amendment that lowered the age of President to 18 and made the election a popularity contest as he plasters a fake smile on his face.

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Mutant nuclear monster releases album and Tokyo has a meltdown...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zouljgb

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:00 AM (et0bf)

225 Islam is all about curbing horney hound dogs lusty thoughts (and making women negligible for them) all the while providing for the horney hound dogs lusty thoughts.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 11:01 AM (0G2eQ)

226 Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:58 AM (8LCz6)

*****


Wait a second. Are you saying that whatever this 'medical incident' was, it is really a 12-dimensional chess move of an elaborate trap to deceive the Trump campaign into saying something impolitic that leads to a great "Aha! Gotcha!" moment and an awakening of the electorate that swings the ultimate outcome of the election in Hillary's favor?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:01 AM (mvenn)

227 Mrs LSM is reading "The Time in Between" and I am watching it on Netflix. She has to watch to get it in the sumptuous colors.

O/T but the FAB fainted exiting a 9/11 ceremony in NYC, had to be helped into the vehicle. Let's see if the MFM can spin this health thing now.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (U6f54)

228 What happens if one of the candidates dies or become too incapacitated so close to the election?

Posted by: Curious Bob at September 11, 2016 10:33 AM (n3hky)


The Democrats will get their friends in the courts to write up some spiffy new legislation on the fly, to be used this one time, and only this one time, to benefit them and only them, and then next time, when a Republican tries to use it, they'll be, like, totes against it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (OxsRO)

229 Will they ask the Hildabeast what her favorite lesbian novel is?

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Lh0b8)

230 214
Good morning.

So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know

somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine

what this does to a person who is told this.


I went
to high school with a girl who got pregnant our sophomore year. Her
parents adopted the baby and raised it as her sibling. I don't know the
ending of the story, but always thought that was very weird.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at September 11, 2016 10:57 AM (+eR2D)
bobby vinton's story ......it was common in my moms generation.....she's in her late 80's......and anytime there was a whoopsie baby and a teen age girl in the family.....it would be speculated....fairly or unfairly.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (0O7c5)

231 Do I believe hillary clinton is sick? NO. She's not sick. She's old, unhealthy, and she coughs. She's not sick with some serious ailment.


Not that old. Rick Perry is 2 years younger and is going to be on Dancing With The Stars. Hillary needs help walking up stairs like she was 80.

Posted by: waelse1 at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (PQwXU)

232 Oh, and I read Tom Wolfe's new book, "The Kingdom of Speech". It was...unsatisfying. The book starts out with some interesting thoughts on the origins of language, humanity's "killer app", at least according to Wolfe. It meanders into a prolonged disquisition on why Noam Chomsky is an a**hole, which, fair enough. However, it then stops rather abruptly, without much in the way of a point. It felt like something Wolfe put together because there are bits of it that are interesting to him, and because he doesn't like Chomsky, which, again, completely understandable, but at the end of it, I couldn't understand what the book was intended to do.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:03 AM (LAe3v)

233
Wait a second. Are you saying that whatever this 'medical incident' was, it is really a 12-dimensional chess move of an elaborate trap to deceive the Trump campaign into saying something impolitic that leads to a great "Aha! Gotcha!" moment and an awakening of the electorate that swings the ultimate outcome of the election in Hillary's favor?

I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:03 AM (8LCz6)

234 Q'tub was in Greeley at UNC. I read it somewhere. Probably in the Hugh Hewitt book The War against the West. The book also explained how they recruit suicide bombers and if rape/sodomy + "eternal damnation now if you don't die a martyr for us" does not convince someone that Islamic Jihadis are pure evil, they are probably unteachable.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 11, 2016 11:04 AM (Jen0I)

235 "Don't say a word, Mr Trump!"

Mr. Trump should politely refrain from commenting by stating that this day is not about Hillary but about the victims of 9-11.

His campaign manager should take away his access to Twitter just in case.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 11:04 AM (JSovD)

236 Islam is all about curbing horney hound dogs lusty thoughts (and making women negligible for them) all the while providing for the horney hound dogs lusty thoughts.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 11:01 AM (0G2eQ)


Hey wait, I'm not just another pretty face, you know!

Posted by: a goat at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (OxsRO)

237 Those bookshelves reek of the vile materialistic decadence of the West! They seduce me with their sleek wooden contours!

Posted by: Sayyid Qutb at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (dtWKK)

238 229
Will they ask the Hildabeast what her favorite lesbian novel is?

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Lh0b
dear buddy, dear socksliving historyhard choicesit takes a village

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (0O7c5)

239 Wait a second. Are you saying that whatever this
'medical incident' was, it is really a 12-dimensional chess move of an
elaborate trap to deceive the Trump campaign into saying something
impolitic that leads to a great "Aha! Gotcha!" moment and an awakening
of the electorate that swings the ultimate outcome of the election in
Hillary's favor?





Posted by: Seamus Muldoon


Remember that this is a mind which thought "she probably s*** her pants" was clever.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (LAe3v)

240 I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:03 AM (8LCz6)

And she chose to do perform this ruse at the 9/11 memorial?

That would be weapons grade stupid.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (Enq6K)

241 I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's

****


That makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:05 AM (mvenn)

242 wow....that looks different from how i typed it

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (0O7c5)

243 Considering how much CS Lewis wrote in his life, I wondered HOW he wrote. He did not type and never wanted to. His preferred method was to use a dip pen and bottled ink. Apparently, he found the pace and rhythm suited to his thought process. (His brother actually typed everything for him.)

Just for fun, this week I broke out a dip pen and nib to try them. It is by far the lightest, weightless, and smoothest writing experience I've had. Even my excellent fountain pens can't compare and good pencils feel rough. As Lewis developed some arthritis in his hands as he aged, I wonder if that dip pen allowed him to continue writing as much as he did.

BTW, the best combination I tried was a hollow nib holder, an Esterbrook Relief 314 nib and a bottle of old Quink black ink. I just hope the paper he used was better than the lined yellow tablets so common today.

Also, Shelby Foote did all his drafts, including the 3 volume Civil War series, using a dip pen. Might explain why it took him twenty years to complete.

Posted by: JTB at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (V+03K)

244 As for solar, as you get out of the inner solar system, it starts to become useless for power.

That's why the Galileo probe had, yes! a real nuclear power source. 144 plutonium, 238 fuel pellets, arrayed in two large canister devices called RTGs or Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators.

So it didn't use a thermal cycle of any sort to generate electricity. It did it directly from radiation.

There are similar devices that use heat differential here on earth using the peltier effect to create electricity. And to make those cool little fridges and chillers that don't have compressors!

Posted by: Brendan at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (gkvx9)

245 Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (tIja6)

Seconded. And it's a good sailing book too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (Zu3d9)

246 PG, at least did not land you in the Barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (et0bf)

247 Re: Hillary fainting

For pete's sake - she's had a subdural hematoma. If a Republican had a history of brain injury, do you think they'd leave his campaign alone about it for even one minute? We're supposed to give the most important job in the world to her despite this relevant history for what reason again?



Posted by: Not a squirrel! at September 11, 2016 11:07 AM (IbfhZ)

248 Posted by: DavidFalkayn at September 11, 2016 09:43 AM (DHm5m)

I'd heard it was Greeley, which I grew up near. One of his complaints was that he could see a woman washing dishes *by looking in her kitchen window from the street* and that a guy was listening to the radio while working on a car. Yes, there was no way he wasn't going to hate the US.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 11, 2016 11:08 AM (GDulk)

249
I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's




*drops dead*

Atari!

Posted by: Hillary

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:08 AM (kdS6q)

250 >>I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.

How is it a good ruse to appear to faint and lose a shoe while being helped into a van? This will increase the speculation about her health not shut it down.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2016 11:09 AM (/tuJf)

251 Ted Bundy's sister was his mother. He snapped.

Posted by: Rev Al at September 11, 2016 11:09 AM (nSThB)

252 "For pete's sake - she's had a subdural hematoma. If a Republican had a history of brain injury, do you think they'd leave his campaign alone about it for even one minute? We're supposed to give the most important job in the world to her despite this relevant history for what reason again? "

Ah..absolutely! It's my turn!

Posted by: Hillary stamping her feet like a toddler at September 11, 2016 11:10 AM (JSovD)

253 246
PG, at least did not land you in the Barrel.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:06 AM (et0bf)

hey anna!!! how's the cats? parents?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:10 AM (0O7c5)

254 Just one tweet Donald.

Posted by: Hillary's False Flag at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (TnxsG)

255 Apparently, he found the pace and rhythm suited to his thought process. (His brother actually typed everything for him.)


I've actually found that writing longhand can be very helpful in writing papers. It forces you to think about what you're saying, and really helps in composing your thoughts and choosing the right words. Word processors are great for some (most) things, but for really quality writing, sometimes there is no substitute for slowing down and not letting your hands outrun your brain.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (LAe3v)

256
How is it a good ruse to appear to faint and lose a shoe while being helped into a van?

Is there video of this? You're all assuming this actually happened. This all according to a "law enforcement witness."

What if none of this happened, is what I'm saying.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (8LCz6)

257 MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.

I'd say thats confirmation.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (/tuJf)

258 Something wrong with Hillary!?

Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2016 11:12 AM (Sfs6o)

259 >>>Will they ask the Hildabeast what her favorite lesbian novel is?

I've heard the theory that Bill doesn't really want Hillary to win.

If he really wants to torpedo her campaign, he should post his secretly recorded videos of Hillary and Huma in the shower.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:13 AM (dtWKK)

260
Ah, so then we're back theory #1: she shit her pants.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:14 AM (8LCz6)

261 My current book organization tricks are to use old VCR racks (an ubiquitous first woodshop project) to hold paperbacks -- keeps them off the floor -- and to stack paperbacks horiz, put some hardbacks vertically, and then another stack of paperbacks on regular shelves.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2016 11:14 AM (MIKMs)

262 BLoomberg has a sidebar item from her handlers that she was overcome by the heat and went to her daughter's apartment and 'feels much better.'
What's that about if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen...?

Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 11:14 AM (11H2y)

263 75 "...He told me that Qtub spent some time in a small community in Colorado, close to where my mentor grew up and did his undergrad work..."

Posted by: DavidFalkayn

****

Nice comment. Don't hesitate to participate more, you might 'class up' the joint.

Do you recall what community in Colorado?
===
As I recall he was at UNC in Greeley. I had always heard that the last straw for him was the perrennial horrifying, degenerate winter favorite "Baby It's Cold Outside" played at a party.

I have no idea who was the artist on that particular recording....

Posted by: Old Toby at September 11, 2016 11:14 AM (3hIZX)

264 When I saw that Ton Cruise is coming out with another Jack Reacher movie next month, I had to read the "Never Go Back" book to familiarize myself with the story. Though the movie will have little resemblance with the book' I like Tom Cruise movies and will be sure to see it. Then I had to start reading random Reacher books from my collection. Child has a new Reacher book coming out in a couple months. I'm also reading two books recommended last week, "Call It Even" and "The Crown Prince of Paris", both are good reads.

Posted by: sawhorse at September 11, 2016 11:15 AM (JIz7y)

265 I'm saying it's a good ruse to put the kibosh on all this talk about hillary being sick.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:03 AM (8LCz6)


Or, maybe it's a way of avoiding prosecution? She's too sick to stand trial?

Posted by: A. Jones at September 11, 2016 11:15 AM (n3hky)

266 Clinton camp: "During the ceremony, she felt overheated so departed to go to her daughter's apartment, and is feeling much better."

#sinusattack #perfecthealth

Posted by: USA at September 11, 2016 11:15 AM (FVvi+)

267 She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs and she shows all this and does not hide it.

Anybody get the feeling that Qutb spent his time in the US jerking off incessantly?

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:16 AM (jO7js)

268 MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.

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happens every time I think about thousands of dead capitalists. Gets me so hot!

Posted by: Hilary! at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (scfNY)

269 HC should take a hint from Milo and just be carried around on a palanquin.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (MIKMs)

270 "Overheated"!!??? How warm is it there?

Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (G2Sc9)

271 Back in the 70s I had a roommate in college--Indiana State University--who's parents were really old and who had an Aunt Wanda who took care of her expenses and bought her stuff. I had this figured out about a month in, she found out at Christmas that Aunt Wanda was her mother. She was devastated.

Posted by: agathapagatha at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (7ucPV)

272 *by looking in her kitchen window from the street*

That unclean woman and the sex rays from her hair made me gaze upon her and desire her! I am not a peeper.

//

You guys are right...there is a lot of sexual twistedness in his movement, or any maniacal political movement.

Posted by: PJ at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (cHuNI)

273 The coolest morning in NYC in about two months and she overheated. Yeah, that's reasonable.

Maybe she oughta consider wearing a few less layers of clothes or retiring. But mainly retiring.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (ZFUt7)

274 Regarding Hillary, it's called vascular dementia. It's serious shit.

http://tinyurl.com/zlwn328

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (ragzU)

275 138 "how can there not be a picture or video capturing her having her medical moment? "
______________________

She's always surrounded by SS, her various aides and flunkies, etc., and then in the second tier around them are the media hacks who would never publish any non-flattering photos of her.

It's probably not that easy to get a good shot of her.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (NnYnv)

276 269
HC should take a hint from Milo and just be carried around on a palanquin.


Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (MIKMs)
*snort*

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (0O7c5)

277 Hillary went down for a 8 count.

Best news on 9/11 we have had since the gates of Vienna.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (1vFHw)

278
I like how they used the "daughter's apartment" implying to the rest of America that Chelsea lives in some little 2-bedroom apartment somewhere in NYC just like normal people.

Most people don't realize that some "apartments" in NYC are multi-million dollar homes that just happen to be in buildings.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:18 AM (8LCz6)

279 267 She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs and she shows all this and does not hide it.

Anybody get the feeling that Qutb spent his time in the US jerking off incessantly?

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and he hadn't even gotten to the elbows yet.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 11, 2016 11:19 AM (scfNY)

280 Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.



I'd say thats confirmation.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (/tuJf)

So she "short circuits" and "overheats"...sounds like the hard drive is shot.

Posted by: Bill Gates at September 11, 2016 11:19 AM (n3hky)

281 266 Clinton camp: "During the ceremony, she felt overheated so departed to go to her daughter's apartment, and is feeling much better."
____________________

LOL. She just felt overheated? Then why not just take off her jacket? Why return to her van, and then collapse?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:19 AM (NnYnv)

282
I think it's quite humid in NYC today. But only about 75 degrees.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:20 AM (8LCz6)

283 #overheated
#pravda

Posted by: USA at September 11, 2016 11:20 AM (FVvi+)

284 Just for fun, this week I broke out a dip pen and nib to try them.

As a lefty and a "claw" writer, I would have to write right-to-left and bottom-to-top to use real ink. My books would not be best-sellers.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:20 AM (jO7js)

285 If Hilary's health fails, there is no way they let Tim Kaine be POTUS. Timmy needs to watch his seis.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 11, 2016 11:21 AM (onq2p)

286 Our long national nightmare is feeling better?

Posted by: x at September 11, 2016 11:21 AM (nFwvY)

287 Another early 20th century spy novel writer was Manning Coles, who was the pseudonym for Adelaide Manning and Francis Coles, and the plots generally revolve around Tommy Hambledon, working for the Foreign Office from WWI through post-iron curtain Europe

He is a spy more like Peter Whimsey than James Bond, with a touch of Wodehouse-like lightheartedness, but Lord Peter never assassinated an Imperial German scientist with a steel knitting needle to the inner ear.

First story is Drink to Yesterday, which is set in WW1, and the second is A Toast to Tomorrow, which is set in 1933 Germany and explains what Tommy had been up to since 1917. Toast is an interesting book because it gives a ground level view, fairly immediate, of what the collapse of the German Empire looked like, and what the evolution through Weimar and onto the rise of the Nazi parti looked like.

"Gruss Gott"


Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:21 AM (e9hKK)

288 Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?

Posted by: TheReal Jack Reacher at September 11, 2016 11:21 AM (dtWKK)

289 Most people don't realize that some "apartments" in NYC are multi-million dollar homes that just happen to be in buildings.
___________________

Chelsea lives in a $10 million "apartment" with sweeping views of Central Park. Photos of her lush place have been published.

And judging by the furnishings, you can bet she probably spent another $10 (if not more) on the decorating.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:22 AM (NnYnv)

290 isn't it obvious that a servo on her exoskeleton overheated and failed. Explains all the reports...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 11, 2016 11:22 AM (scfNY)

291
As a lefty and a "claw" writer, I would have to
write right-to-left and bottom-to-top to use real ink. My books would
not be best-sellers. Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:20 AM (jO7js)
=====

My dad was a lefty and mirror wrote for his own notes.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2016 11:22 AM (MIKMs)

292 Overheated? Yeah, the other attendees were just dropping like flies due to the humidity.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 11, 2016 11:22 AM (onq2p)

293
MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.
Posted by: JackStraw



Then stopped by Ceders Sinai because it's the corned beef special day in the cafeteria...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:23 AM (kdS6q)

294 her knees buckled and she almost fainted.

I may or may not have had something to do with that little prank...

Posted by: The Ghost of Ambassador Stevens at September 11, 2016 11:23 AM (jO7js)

295 PG, thanks for asking. The parental units are doing fine.

And the cats are a welcome safe harbor from this mad mad mad mad world. Yesterday Mama cat was trotting down the hallway and did not see where Isis had decided to lay down and stretch until the last second. Mama cat jumped vertically about six inches, realized who was there, and kept trotting towards me. Meanwhile Ra continues to be cuddle monster.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (et0bf)

296 >> isn't it obvious that a servo on her exoskeleton
>> overheated and failed. Explains all the reports...

I told the power guys those Samsung G7 battery packs weren't tested enough, but nooooo...

Posted by: Alphabet Exoskeleton Lead Engineer, now unemployed at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (TppKb)

297 Overheated huh? Guess that's the last time she gives her fanning minions Sunday off.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (Enq6K)

298 she should probably stop wearing wool suits in the summertime......i mean...seriously......it's not rocket science.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (0O7c5)

299 285
If Hilary's health fails, there is no way they let Tim Kaine be POTUS. Timmy needs to watch his seis.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper


Why? He seems to be exactly what they're looking for: very liberal voting record, not terribly swift, and a wuss who would be easy to intimidate and manipulate.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (LAe3v)

300

Then stopped by Green-wood Cemetery to stretch her legs....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (kdS6q)

301
"her daughter's apartment" rally cracks me up.

That's like saying "her daughter's dorm room."

Idiots all over the USA are saying, hey my daughter is living in an apartment, too, just starting out in life. Hillary Clinton is just like me!

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:24 AM (8LCz6)

302 If Hillary was just slightly "overheated", then she should be able to resume her schedule with no delays. Lets see how long it takes to see her in public again.

Posted by: Sherlock. at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (n3hky)

303 So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine what this does to a person who is told this.


I went to high school with a girl who got pregnant our sophomore year. Her parents adopted the baby and raised it as her sibling. I don't know the ending of the story, but always thought that was very weird.
___________________

It used to be a fairly common way to deal with a teen pregnancy.

Ted Bundy, the infamous serial killer, grew up believing his mother was his older sister, and that his grandparents were his parents.

Jack Nicholson, the actor, also was told (by his grandparents, who he believed were his parents) that his mother was his sister.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (NnYnv)

304 Don't confuse Islamic with Arabic. Many stars were indeed named by Arabic astronomers, but that was centuries before Arabic science and culture was swept away by the rise of the warrior cult of Islam.

It wasn't until the tenth century (third century AH) that the stars started getting Arabic names. By then they had been Muslim for a long time like, er, three centuries.

There is however an argument they had been named by Hellenised Syriac-speakers before that. Those would have been Christians.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (6FqZa)

305 >>>Anybody get the feeling that Qutb spent his time in the US jerking off incessantly?


Maybe his misogyny stemmed from the fact that he was a repressed homo. He looks like a homo.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (dtWKK)

306 MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt
"overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.
Posted by: JackStraw


Apparently her SS detail lives the green credo and doesn't have AC in their vehicles.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (LAe3v)

307 All good libraries must contain a set of the Great Books.

Posted by: Czar Peter at September 11, 2016 11:25 AM (qaWk6)

308 currently 82 degrees in NY with 40% humidity. must've been cooler earlier.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 11, 2016 11:26 AM (scfNY)

309 She stood up for less than an hour before going down.

I can't wait for the debates.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:26 AM (1vFHw)

310 FB NBC Connecticut 5 min ago: "Hillary Clinton fell ill and may have fainted at the 9/11 memorial at Ground Zero Sunday morning, two senior law enforcement sources told NBC News" " Clinton left 9/11 ceremony after feeling "overheated": campaign".....

Posted by: KWDreaming at September 11, 2016 11:26 AM (AkcYt)

311
Then stopped by Green-wood Cemetery to stretch her legs....

hahaha

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:27 AM (8LCz6)

312 she was in one of her heavy pant suits......she was probably dehydrated from heavy drinking the night before

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:27 AM (0O7c5)

313 309
She stood up for less than an hour before going down.



I can't wait for the debates.


Down goes Hillary! Down goes Hillary!

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:27 AM (LAe3v)

314 She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs and she shows all this and does not hide it.

Anybody get the feeling that Qutb spent his time in the US jerking off
incessantly?

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:16 AM (jO7js)


Ha! I wasn't going to mention it, this being the classy book thread and all, but from that paragraph, Qutb does sound like he spent a good deal of time, uh, "researching" American women in order to understand how truly disgusting and cootie-filled they are.

Qutb never married, by the way, even after he skedaddled back to Egypt. Even in an Islamic country, he was unable to find a woman who was up to his lofty standards.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (OxsRO)

315 If one is subject to overheating on a reportedly cool morning, Washington D.C. would be a really poor choice as a place to reside. Just saying.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (IdCqF)

316 I can't wait for the debates.





Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:26 AM (1vFHw)
we should send her one of those canes with a seat attached to it

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (0O7c5)

317 Sometimes people faint dead away when they hear the Hell Hounds coming.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (d6TTt)

318 Tami, I agree. What is wrong with this woman, that she is killing herself and putting the nation at risk, just to show up her husband?

And I seriously doubt she went to Chelsea's apartment. If she did, she was accompanied by a full emergency medical team. All the major US networks are ignoring it so far.

Posted by: PJ at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (cHuNI)

319 298
she should probably stop wearing wool suits in the summertime......i mean...seriously......it's not rocket science.......


Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever


Count your blessings. With her fashion sense, she might move to Spandex.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (LAe3v)

320 I am't in some waaayys tiiired

Posted by: Hilary! at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (scfNY)

321
Affixing URL now that I'm at home, and . . . God forgive me for my thoughts about Hillary Clinton's medical episode.

Firefighters put on full uniforms (oxygen tanks, helmets, asbestos suits, boots) this morning in Austin and climbed stairs at the Hill Country Galleria over and over to the equivalent of 110 stories. No letup, no water.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 11, 2016 11:28 AM (5o5ek)

322 Should we start calling her a 'basket' case?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:29 AM (uz/Pv)

323 Perhaps she would be more comfortable if she took off the horse blanket.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2016 11:29 AM (kTF2Z)

324 If Hillary's health fails,

That ship sailed years ago.

Unfit For Office.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:29 AM (jO7js)

325 Kami help us, Hillary! in Kevlar and carbon-nano reinforced Spandex...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (et0bf)

326 Breaking: HRC's knees have joined the Hillary's Health Conspiracy.

Posted by: USA at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (FVvi+)

327 I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (Sfs6o)

328 298 she should probably stop wearing wool suits in the summertime......i mean...seriously......it's not rocket science.......
___________________

Seriously. If she felt overheated, wouldn't the most sensible thing be to just take off her wool jacket?

Instead, she heads back to the van (jacket still on) and faints instead. Hmmmmm . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (NnYnv)

329 "Back when Europe was going through the Middle Ages, Islam was having a golden age of scientific and mathematic discovery...:"


To be honest, I'd rather live in the Middle Ages in Europe than in any modern Islamic country. In many ways it was a more civilized society than the honor killing, goat/boy f*cking, hand wiping, feet-in-the-sink sh*thole that is modern Islam.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (dtWKK)

330 "I ain't in no wayz tarred...." *Plop*...fart...leak.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (n3hky)

331 Jackpot!

Passing through a tiny Southern town this weekend, hit a little used bookstore and picked up 2 1970's era Sci Fi anthologies and the 1974 'Best of Cordwainer Smith'.


Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (zu88C)

332 Perhaps she would be more comfortable if she took off the horse blanket.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2016 11:29 AM (kTF2Z)

After all is said and done, this spectacle of Hillary is a fascinating study, of brazenness, on the part of the Left.
Stunning, actually.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (d6TTt)

333 "Clinton stumbled off the curb, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van...


***


In all fairness, those pink fuzzy house slippers are difficult to keep on.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (mvenn)

334 Too lazy to read up, having just gotten here, but I'm wondering if maybe this whole "your sister is actually your mom" thing might have something to do with Andi Sullivan's obsession with the Palins.

It wouldn't be reasonable, but it might actually be understandable. It's something like this, or cytomegalovirus infused insanity.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (Pz4pT)

335 318 Tami, I agree. What is wrong with this woman, that she is killing herself and putting the nation at risk, just to show up her husband?"

She is that hungry for power. And for being a historical "first."

I believe that if she knew that if she would keel over and die while giving her inaugural speech and she could save herself by dropping out - she would still stay in the race.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (P8951)

336
I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary!

Invalid?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (8LCz6)

337 Then stopped by Green-wood Cemetery to stretch her legs.... 


But mainly to collect names for voter registration.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (ZFUt7)

338 Hillary! Clinton at this moment in time is reminding me of Leonid Brezhnev being propped up during a May Day parade in Red Square.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (et0bf)

339 327
I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (Sfs6o)
"Thar she blows!

Posted by: Capin' Ahab at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (n3hky)

340 She just felt moved to recreate the collapse of the Twin Towers with her knees. Please give her her peace at this emotional time.

/Campaign Flack

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (uz/Pv)

341 Best part?

Total price : $ 2.85

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:33 AM (zu88C)

342 @291 Dude your dad was Lenny da Vince? The told me he was ghey!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 11:33 AM (tIja6)

343 My BS meter is pegged.
The motorcade may be at Chelsea's apt, but I don't believe her press that she is there. Makes no sense. Fainting presidential candidates don't go hang out on the kid's couch. Even in multi-million dollar apartments.

Posted by: USA at September 11, 2016 11:33 AM (FVvi+)

344 I WIN

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:33 AM (zu88C)

345 I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

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YippieKieAyyyy!!!

Posted by: Hilary! at September 11, 2016 11:34 AM (scfNY)

346 327
I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (Sfs6o)

Titanic?

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 11:34 AM (Enq6K)

347 If Hillary's health fails,
-----------------------------------
That ship sailed years ago.

Unfit For Office.
Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:29 AM (jO7js)


And just last week, when I suggested they would replace her on the top of the ticket before November, all you people laughed and laughed...

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:34 AM (Pz4pT)

348 318 Tami, I agree. What is wrong with this woman, that she is killing herself and putting the nation at risk, just to show up her husband?
____________________

I think it's more than that. Hillary has dreamed of being the first woman president since she was a little girl. It was her way of proving her worth to her daddy, whom she worshipped. Her father is long dead, but her dream of proving she's better than her two creepy brothers isn't.

Also, she literally needs to be president now, to keep from having her crimes at State and her even greater crimes at the Clinton Crime Family Foundation exposed to the public.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:34 AM (NnYnv)

349 After all is said and done, this spectacle of Hillary is a fascinating study, of brazenness, on the part of the Left.

Stunning, actually.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (d6TTt)


The audacity of hope. Worked for me!

Posted by: Barak Obama at September 11, 2016 11:35 AM (n3hky)

350 I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

An 'Aunt Bunny.'

Little Eddie Murphy reference there.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:35 AM (oVJmc)

351 Anybody who attacks Hillary today is attacking America on 9-11. Just so you know.

Posted by: Corrupt Media at September 11, 2016 11:35 AM (Jh20h)

352 Request a new thread for Hillary

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2016 11:35 AM (6FqZa)

353 I'm sure she will be ready by Tuesday after several transfusions of virgin blood.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:35 AM (1vFHw)

354 I believe that if she knew that if she would keel over and die while giving her inaugural speech and she could save herself by dropping out - she would still stay in the race.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V

And deny me my historical footnote!

Posted by: William Henry Harrison at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (TnUKj)

355 And just last week, when I suggested they would
replace her on the top of the ticket before November, all you people
laughed and laughed...

Posted by: BurtTC


For some reason, I read that to myself in Barry Kripke's voice.

"Children wuv me. Something about me makes them waff and waff. "

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (LAe3v)

356 Clinton stumbled off the curb, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van...

This is yours? FML...

Posted by: Prince Charming at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (jO7js)

357
Anybody who attacks Hillary today is attacking America on 9-11. Just so you know.


or...Today's Not The Day For Politics

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (8LCz6)

358 I believe that if she knew that if she would keel over and die while giving her inaugural speech and she could save herself by dropping out - she would still stay in the race.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (P8951)


Meh. It's overrated.

Posted by: Zombie William Henry Harrison at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (Pz4pT)

359
So my question is, how common is this? How many of you morons know somebody who came out of a family situation like this? I can't imagine what this does to a person who is told this.


I went to high school with a girl who got pregnant our sophomore year. Her parents adopted the baby and raised it as her sibling. I don't know the ending of the story, but always thought that was very weird.
---------------

As Trivial Pursuer says, it's common. It happened in my family a couple of generations ago. A few years after the mother in question gave birth to her "baby brother," she got pregnant again and this time she died in a criminal abortion.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (5o5ek)

360 I've finished re-reading Paul Tehroux's "The Old Patagonian Express". Boston, Mass. to Patagonia by train (with a bit of airline miles). Long distance travel during the Carter Years. Much malaise, poverty, natural disasters, then Theroux crosses the Rio Grande.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (JBggj)

361 I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?


*****


#PantsSuit'sDown

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (mvenn)

362 299 285
If Hilary's health fails, there is no way they let Tim Kaine be POTUS. Timmy needs to watch his seis.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper

Why? He seems to be exactly what they're looking for: very liberal voting record, not terribly swift, and a wuss who would be easy to intimidate and manipulate.

IMO, after 8 years of Obama, the far-left top dogs want someone to rule with an iron fist. 1A and 2A - gone. SCOTUS - stacked, Civil war? - bring it!

If the Dems wanted a dim bulb lib to waltz along the party line, they couldv'e picked slow Joe.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (onq2p)

363 Clinton stumbled off the curb, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van...
----------





Did they nail it back on ?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (zu88C)

364
Oops, meant to put on a new sock.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (5o5ek)

365 Drudge must have an insane profit margin. Production Costs: 0, Evening and weekend staff: 0, Advertising: 0, Capital equipment: 0

Posted by: Jean at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (ngn8T)

366 After all is said and done, this spectacle of Hillary is a fascinating study, of brazenness, on the part of the Left.

Stunning, actually.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (d6TTt)


No, not really. Once you factor in a complaint, supine MSM that's completely in the tank for her, not only is it perfectly understandable, it is inevitable.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (OxsRO)

367 345 Posted by: Hilary! at September 11, 2016 11:34 AM (scfNY)

"Seizure"

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (SzZnW)

368 And deny me my historical footnote!
Posted by: William Henry Harrison at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (TnUKj)


Curse you, impostor, for having faster finger bones than I!

Posted by: Zombie William Henry Harrison at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (Pz4pT)

369 It's nothing. My thong was a bit too tight today (minor bloating) and cut off the circulation to my legs. Now that I've gone commando, everything is fine. Fabulous in fact!

Posted by: Hilary! at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (scfNY)

370 302 - excellent point. If she's just overheated....let's see her schedule for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...

Posted by: vivi at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (11H2y)

371 Oregon Muse put the Kibosh on her with this 9/11 book thread featuring a skull in the bookcase.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (1vFHw)

372 It's strange because most women her age tend to be too warm. My ex-boss, who retired last year, wore short sleeved blouses to work in January, when the rest of us were freezing.

I tend to feel cold much of the time, but I look at those tents Hill wears and I start sweating.

Even if she's hiding something besides her fat ass - an insulin pump or a colostomy bag - she could wear tops made of lighter material.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (P8951)

373 366 Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (OxsRO)

The role of the media is to cover the news, ideally with a pillow until it dies UNLESS the news helps the donkey.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (SzZnW)

374
When you start hearing the dnc's Media referencing FDR's and JFK's health and it being no big deal, then you'll know she's really sick and it's a big problem.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:38 AM (8LCz6)

375 I believe that if she knew that if she would keel over and die while giving her inaugural speech and she could save herself by dropping out - she would still stay in the race.

----

I get it

Posted by: Achillies at September 11, 2016 11:39 AM (scfNY)

376
Drudge is absolutely useless on weekends. Never understood it.
Posted by: Tami




Be fair. Not like this place has Nood either.

Still the usual series of weekend Kitty Korner threads.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:39 AM (kdS6q)

377 Clinton stumbled off the curb, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van...

This is yours? FML...

Posted by: Prince Charming at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (jO7js)


Hah! The modern fairy tale, more realistic and nauseating.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:40 AM (Pz4pT)

378 Hilary will make it thru the election her thirst for power is lich like.

Posted by: Jean at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (ngn8T)

379 372 Posted by: DonnaV. whitely brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 11, 2016 11:38
AM (P8951)

Perhaps Hummer got a little too frisky in their celebratory coital embrace last night?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (SzZnW)

380 What is wrong with this woman, that she is killing herself and putting the nation at risk

Because she wants to be the one to finish it off.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (jO7js)

381 Clinton stumbled off the curb, her knees buckled and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van...

One more, Dorothy, and you can get back to Kansas!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (uz/Pv)

382
On the poll front, Clinton's lead in NH drops to +1. WHOA
Trump has a +1 poll lead in NEVADA.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (JBggj)

383 >>>Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe<<<

Those unexpected sharts really do take a toll.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (HVQlX)

384 https://tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Video.
She is not well.

Posted by: USA at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (FVvi+)

385 Blazing skull???

Posted by: The garbone at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (9dH/8)

386 Drudge is absolutely useless on weekends. Never understood it.
Posted by: Tami

------

Been there , Tami. Information junkie looking for a fix.

Take a walk in the sunshine and watch some birds. Always helps me.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:41 AM (zu88C)

387 http://preview.tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Hillary video limp being put into van head first.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (NAv1Q)

388 Did they nail it back on ?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:37 AM (zu88C)

----

THAT'S NOT FUNNY.

nay. not a thread whinney.

Posted by: John Kerry at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (scfNY)

389
As Trivial Pursuer says, it's common. It happened in my family a couple of generations ago. A few years after the mother in question gave birth to her "baby brother," she got pregnant again and this time she died in a criminal abortion.
___________________

Reminds me of an old episode of Frasier, where they were talking about somebody's accidental pregnancy, and then the guy who played the old, retired-cop father says something like: "In my day, when a girl got pregnant, the family would ship her offer to Europe and then when she had the baby, they'd lie and tell everybody that it was the girl's baby brother. We had morals and values back then."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (NnYnv)

390
New York/New Jersey electronics store pitchman "Crazy Eddie" is mort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvqfvvQIoIM

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (8LCz6)

391 I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?

Shiver me timbers! Watch out below!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (P8951)

392 Hilary will make it thru the election her thirst for power is lich like.

Not sure what 'lich' was supposed to be, but she reminds me a lot of Gollum's story.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (jO7js)

393 Posted by: BurtTC

For some reason, I read that to myself in Barry Kripke's voice.

"Children wuv me. Something about me makes them waff and waff. "
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:36 AM (LAe3v)


I have no idea who Barry Kripke is, but I believe it is something like the effect I was going for.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (Pz4pT)

394
"His Prices Are Insane!"

the corp is actually listed on the nasdaq

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (8LCz6)

395
"His Policies Are Insane"

Crazy Bernie

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (8LCz6)

396 Seriously. If she felt overheated, wouldn't the most sensible thing be to just take off her wool jacket?



Instead, she heads back to the van (jacket still on) and faints instead. Hmmmmm . . . .



Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:31 AM (NnYnv)

probably didn't want to show off her old lady flapping arms

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:44 AM (0O7c5)

397 Be fair. Not like this place has Nood either.

Still the usual series of weekend Kitty Korner threads.

---

you'd think a smart military blog could manage a weekend thread remembering some famous battles of yore...

Posted by: John Kerry at September 11, 2016 11:44 AM (scfNY)

398 *peeks at side-bar and notices story on Star Trek*

Obviously that writer for the LA Times is not a true fan if only now is shocked to discover there are lyrics to the opening song. Please hand Spock-2 your Agonizer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (et0bf)

399 I wonder how Hillary memorializes That Awful Internet Video Day ?



Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (zu88C)

400 Video. She is not well.Posted by: USA


Big black bald dude seems to be holding her up.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (ZFUt7)

401
"I shall travel the land and shall not rest until I find the fair maiden whose foot fits this dainty slipper" a bystander identified only as Prince Charming was overheard to say.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (mvenn)
-------------------

QFLOLS

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (5o5ek)

402 384
https://tinyurl.com/h7ncedl



Video.

She is not well.

Posted by: USA



Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (LAe3v)

403 http://preview.tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Hillary video limp being put into van head first.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod


Wow, she doesn't even budge when that van pulls up. Completely out of it.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:46 AM (jO7js)

404 Obviously that writer for the LA Times is not a true fan if only now is shocked to discover there are lyrics to the opening song.

Which Gene Roddenberry wrote so he could claim half of Alexander Courage's royalties.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:46 AM (uz/Pv)

405 The last time America saw something that big and puffy go down was when the Hindenburg crashed.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:46 AM (P8951)

406 Friendsh, we have nothing to fear from a Kaine presidency...

Posted by: Juan McCain at September 11, 2016 11:46 AM (97XyN)

407 Big black bald dude seems to be holding her up.



Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative


If by "holding her up" you mean keeping her from pitching face-first into the gutter, then yes.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (LAe3v)

408 That alleged video of Hillary allegedly collapsing as she's allegedly put in an alleged van is a total and complete fabrication. Anyone who shows it or talks about it is a racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamaphobe Horrible.

Posted by: Corrupt Media at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (Jh20h)

409 Never forget 9/11! It's the day we almost lost Hillary!

Posted by: LIVs at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (jO7js)

410 She's walkin' like Bernie.

From 'Weekend at Bernie's.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (uz/Pv)

411 http://preview.tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Wow. That looked bad. In those first attempted steps, she looks like she's partially paralyzed, before she collapses on the third step.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (NnYnv)

412 392 Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (jO7js)

A lich is an undead monster motivated by the desire to accumulate and keep treasure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29

Usually a magic-user or cleric who used their eldritch power to cheat death and keep on desiring power and/or wealth on the mortal realm....

Kind of like the Soviet leadership of which Hillary is an idelogical soulmate.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (SzZnW)

413
Video.
She is not well.


*****

Wow. She looks like she was out on her feet, leaning against that concrete post with an aide holding her up by her left arm. The black bald dude (?neurologist) is right there too. They did not help her into the van, you can see her right foot dragging behind her as they bodily carry her into the van. This could be a major deal.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:48 AM (mvenn)

414 nevermind.

anyone got some bitbleach for this article?

Posted by: C Cilizza at September 11, 2016 11:48 AM (scfNY)

415 The last time America saw something that big and puffy go down was when the Hindenburg crashed.

Whatta I gotta do to get some respect around here?

Posted by: Stay-Pufd Marshmallow Man at September 11, 2016 11:48 AM (LAe3v)

416 #neverforget Sept 11, 2001 or Sept 11, 2012

#neverforget whose top aide has ties to the muslim brotherhood

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (0O7c5)

417 https://tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Video.

She is not well.

Posted by: USA


Wow. Just wow.
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (LAe3v)


Yes, I am also struck at how routine this appears to be for the help staff. They have a planned and practiced protocol for hauling her lifeless carcass out of tricky situations.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)

418 And, gee, almost two months left to go.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (uz/Pv)

419 Not sure what 'lich' was supposed to be, but she reminds me a lot of Gollum's story.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:43 AM (jO7js)


Lich is an undead reanimated, usually, based on overwhelming need, anger or thirst for revenge. Traditionally murdered or killed and left in a marsh or bog

My God, didn't you read all those 596 DD monster manuals and supplements?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (e9hKK)

420 The last time America saw something that big and puffy go down was when the Hindenburg crashed.

------

*cough*

Posted by: Kim Kardassian Sex Tape at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (zu88C)

421 There's no hiding it now.

Posted by: Those CIA guys from "We Were Soldiers Once" at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (LAe3v)

422 lol at the comment on the twitter vid of Hillary collapsing....dont look at the head...this is some weekend at bernies stuff

Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (0LQ4f)

423
339
327

I wonder what the Secret Service code word is for a Hillary! collapse?



Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2016 11:30 AM (Sfs6o)
"Thar she blows!


Posted by: Capin' Ahab at September 11, 2016 11:32 AM (n3hky)







Trust me, she doesn't.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (LuZz8)

424 My 95 year old mother who could have climbed a tree at 70, says it's her blood thinner. Still, epic.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (brElc)

425 She stood up for less than an hour before going down.

I can't wait for the debates.


Sorry for being optimistic, but if even her inhumanly strong, demonic will to power was unable to prevent her health from impacting the last several events she appeared at, she must be in pretty bad shape.

All The Donald has to do is needle her a bit... and she'll topple over like a row of dominoes.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (dtWKK)

426 398 Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (et0bf)

You know Ms Puma as a fan you might try Star Trek Online...

I might have a slew of level 50 toons, a Steam group set up with Vox capability, and literally hundreds of millions in assets in game.....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:50 AM (SzZnW)

427 apropos of nothing...i've joined the Morons on Gab - i'm, strangely enough, geezer_der_mensch@gab - let the fur fly!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at September 11, 2016 11:50 AM (VHGGJ)

428 The Hillary Camp is now going for Comey's throat. Drudge has a link to a Politico article written by one of Eric Holder's former speechwriters. It's all "Comey is the new Hoover" thing. Kind of boring except for a reference to Trump as a know-nothing.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 11:50 AM (JBggj)

429 Yes, I am also struck at how routine this appears to
be for the help staff. They have a planned and practiced protocol
for hauling her lifeless carcass out of tricky situations.

Posted by: BurtTC


Excellent point. They've clearly prepared for just this situation.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 11:50 AM (LAe3v)

430 Sven, points to #338.

Ahem

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (et0bf)

431 She's walkin' like Bernie.

From 'Weekend at Bernie's.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:47 AM (uz/Pv)


I would not laugh... if we were talking about virtually any other human being on this planet.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (Pz4pT)

432 Watch this!

Posted by: William Henry Harrison at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (VxHD9)

433 Wow. She looks like she was out on her feet, leaning against that concrete post with an aide holding her up by her left arm.
_______________

You're right. Looking at the video again, it's apparent that she was not standing on her own power. They had her propped up against that concrete pillar, and the woman next to her was holding her up.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (NnYnv)

434 >>The motorcade may be at Chelsea's apt, but I don't believe her press
that she is there. Makes no sense. Fainting presidential candidates
don't go hang out on the kid's couch. Even in multi-million dollar
apartments.

Yeah, considering they didn't let her usual press gaggle follow, I'd say it's a safe bet they didn't want them to know where she was going.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (NOIQH)

435
Ohn Ringo also makes great use of the Orion drive in his Troy series of books. The bad guys at first aren't sure why the Troy (a massive asteroid fortress) has a bunch of nuclear explosions happening at the other end, and then nearly have a heart attack when they realize why the explosions are happening.

Posted by: junior at September 11, 2016 11:52 AM (YCyzO)

436 Trump should offer his private plane and helicopter to assist her in her time of medical necessity. Also a suite in his building, complete with a comprehensive medical staff.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 11, 2016 11:52 AM (9ngBC)

437 She's just suffering from a lack of iron. Upping her weekly does of infant pancreas should get her back on track.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:52 AM (zu88C)

438 seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs

-
No shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 11, 2016 11:52 AM (Nwg0u)

439 I remember reading an article about twins who were separated at birth and how it was not an uncommon thing for the parents of the unwed mother to raise one (as their child) and farm the other one out to a relative. The silly premise of "The Patty Duke Show" ("They're cousins! Identical cousins!") actually has some basis in fact.

So imagine finding out that no only is your sister your mother and your mother is your grandma but cousin Mary who looks so much like you is actually your twin.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:52 AM (P8951)

440 How warm is it there?

Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 11, 2016 11:17 AM (G2Sc9)

About 75 degrees.

It's a bullshit excuse.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (Zu3d9)

441 Hillary looked ok leaving Chelsea's apartment. I'm cracking up at the "spontaneous" photo op with the little girl who somehow got through the Secret Service to approach her.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (ozZau)

442 384 https://tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Video.
She is not well.
----------
I'd say! Holy crap.

Everyone should look at that vid.

Posted by: WisRich at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (OAlmw)

443 At this point if she continues I think her lust has overcome her decency. She should be thankful for her grandkids and enjoy thespeed rest of her days. God help her.

Posted by: The garbone at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (9dH/8)

444 Lich is an undead reanimated, usually, based on overwhelming need, anger or thirst for revenge. Traditionally murdered or killed and left in a marsh or bog

Huh. Completely new to me, and I had friends in college who played themselves out of college with D&D.

Wasn't the Potomac originally marshy? Let it not be said that I'm against tradition...

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (jO7js)

445 It wasn't the heat. She couldn't take hearing good things said about America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (Nwg0u)

446 Chicken Lady! Bawwwk, bawwk, bawkkkkk...

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (2cS/G)

447 We categorically disavow hateful speculation about Ms. Clinton's health, and we wish her a speedy, complete recovery.

Posted by: The Trump Campaign at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (97XyN)

448 429 Yes, I am also struck at how routine this appears to
be for the help staff. They have a planned and practiced protocol for hauling her lifeless carcass out of tricky situations.
_____________

Yes, I noticed that too. And they seemed less concerned about Hillary's condition than they were about keeping people away. Did you notice how they swarmed around her in a circle, facing away from her, when she went down?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (NnYnv)

449 We've secretly switched Hilary Clinton's breakfast vodka for valu rite. Now let's see if she can tell the difference...

Posted by: Announcer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (scfNY)

450 They have a planned and practiced protocol for hauling her lifeless carcass out of tricky situations.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)


And the MSM performs pretty much the same function for her.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (OxsRO)

451
How warm is it there?

About 75 degrees.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo




"Sun stroke".

Well....maybe "overcast stroke".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (kdS6q)

452 430 Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (et0bf)

A recurring theme.....

so when you have the brain and I am an inert zombie do you wash it....?

You know like a car?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (SzZnW)

453
I would not laugh... if we were talking about virtually any other human being on this planet.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 11:51 AM (Pz4pT)


Nor would I. But the woman who classed we 'Deplorables' as less-than-human gets what she sows.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (uz/Pv)

454 >>>Then I had to start reading random Reacher books from my collection.

Don't skip the porno ones.

Posted by: Reach Jacker at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (dtWKK)

455
http://preview.tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Hillary video limp being put into van head first.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 11, 2016 11:42 AM (NAv1Q)
---------------------

And Mysterious Medical Device Guy is right at her side.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (5o5ek)

456 If she thinks it's hot out now, wait until Ace puts up the flaming skulls. That video should be all over the news.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (jO7js)

457
What I don't understand is why didn't they take hillary to the nearest Planned Parenthood Women's Health Clinic -- I hear they're the best and only place a woman can go these days for good medical care?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (8LCz6)

458 The motorcade may be at Chelsea's apt, but I don't believe her press that she is there. Makes no sense. Fainting presidential candidates don't go hang out on the kid's couch. Even in multi-million dollar apartments.

---

maybe that's where the coffin with her native soil is stored...

Posted by: Announcer at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (scfNY)

459 Posted by: geezer der mensch at September 11, 2016 11:50 AM (VHGGJ)

Have you posted anything yet? I can't find your name.

@CBD

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (Zu3d9)

460 The black nanite goo in her lungs needs to be replaced. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (zu88C)

461 That video and the myriad of health issues also proves to me that the whole Clinton family and the left as a whole are a bunch of craven people to say the least.

If my family member, mother, etc was sick like this, fainting coughing barely able to stand, I would be begging her to stop this nonsense and get healthy, fuck the presidency. My loved one would be more important than a political title.

To them though, they just want to "make history", damn the country.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (NAv1Q)

462 Pro Tip: If you are with somebody who feels faint and overheated, do NOT try to keep them standing. Have them kneel down, sit down, lie down; before they faint. And if they do faint, don't try to get them to stand up and "walk it off".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (mvenn)

463 43 At this point if she continues I think her lust has overcome her decency.

Posted by: The garbone at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (9dH/


Actually, I think that ship has sailed a long time ago.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (OxsRO)

464 Hillary only tripped when her basket of deplorables overflowed into the gutter and sullied her Christian Louboutin granny slippers.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2016 11:57 AM (HVQlX)

465 Oh please, please, please

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 11, 2016 11:57 AM (LAe3v)

466 449 comments; 48 are book related. I sure am glad the Morons spoke out to me against going off topic on the pet thread two weeks ago.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 11:57 AM (mpXpK)

467 t-bird, I actually have no idea of what I am talking about.

I denounce myself as a moral preener.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:57 AM (e9hKK)

468 Mrs Franpsycho showed me a pic of Hillary on one of her sites.

Hillary Gave me the impression of someone having a seizure. Taut jaw. Unable to bear weight or stand. Non responsive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (EZebt)

469 442 384 https://tinyurl.com/h7ncedl

Video.
She is not well.
----------
I'd say! Holy crap.

Everyone should look at that vid.
Posted by: WisRich at September 11, 2016 11:53 AM (OAlmw

That video...... Made me change my opinion about the 8 count to a TKO.

That does not look good at all when you look at her entire body of work with her health the past few years.

She may have months not years to live.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (1vFHw)

470
The Pet Thread is sacred, Vic.

A lotta hair to deal with, but sacred.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (8LCz6)

471 re : video


Zdenek Gazda needs to stay away from Ft. Marcy Park .

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (zu88C)

472 That video and the myriad of health issues also proves to me that the whole Clinton family and the left as a whole are a bunch of craven people to say the least.

Consider their sham of a marriage-- these people lust only for power, so they stay 'married' for political viability even though they obviously can't stand each other.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (uz/Pv)

473 Trump should offer his private plane and helicopter to assist her in her
time of medical necessity. Also a suite in his building, complete with a
comprehensive medical staff.
=================

A great idea. I'd suggest fully outfitting a suite in Trump Tower, complete with a medical bed, a doctor, nursing staff (in scrubs), a hospital bed, and monitoring equipment. Maybe one of those full-size cardboard images of Hillary lying on the bed (I mean physical placement, not speaking) . That would make a great photo.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (JBggj)

474 399 I wonder how Hillary memorializes That Awful Internet Video Day ?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:45 AM (zu88C)

Right now, she's memorializing it with a team of medical staff.

Can you imagine what a bitch of a patient Hill must be? "I'll have a drink if I want one you stupid quack!"

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (P8951)

475 She must just be utterly wiped out.



You know, like a server, with a cloth!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (mvenn)

476 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 11:57 AM (mpXpK)

Dude, pet threads are sacred. You're lucky they tar and feather you.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (CLsvR)

477
I would not laugh... if we were talking about virtually any other human being on this planet.
Posted by: BurtTC



Once got into a fight with an evil old bitch Hillary's age++ and, among other things, told her she'd be dead in just a few months anyway and I'd dance on her grave laughing.

So, that's kinda where I'm coming from on this one.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (kdS6q)

478 The Secret Service should check for rubber bands in the area.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (97XyN)

479 don't try to get them to stand up and "walk it off".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (mvenn)

Rub some dirt on it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2016 11:59 AM (Zu3d9)

480 The reply was that we "must" have a non-political thread a few times.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (mpXpK)

481 Sven likes STO for what reasons? Is it the ability to extort valuable commodities from primitive races? Blowing up the Klingons? Or simply because of Orion slave girls?

----
A Lich can make a whole party its biche. Had a DM one time who loved to torture us with serious challenges. *sharpens +3 battle axe that crit-hit and killed the Nightmare a Lich was riding. Rest of party destroyed the Lich*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (et0bf)

482 Pro Tip: If you are with somebody who feels faint and overheated, do NOT try to keep them standing. Have them kneel down, sit down, lie down; before they faint. And if they do faint, don't try to get them to stand up and "walk it off".
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (mien)

yeah, you'd think one of her entourage would be able to grab her a chair or steer her to a bench to wait for the vehicle, or have her lean over or sit on the ground.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (ozZau)

483 Yes, I noticed that too. And they seemed less concerned about Hillary's condition than they were about keeping people away. Did you notice how they swarmed around her in a circle, facing away from her, when she went down?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (NnYnv)

And the MSM performs pretty much the same function for her.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (OxsRO)


We have the appearance of a democratic society, with a free press, and free elections.


What we actually have is not so different from the Soviet era, when leaders were propped up, dead or alive, and the few who were willing to speak out were silenced. Permanently.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (Pz4pT)

484 re the adoption thing....



We adopted my husband's biological niece.



I think it was fairly common back in the day for relatives to adopt a child born out of wedlock. Not as common today with the rampant abortion mills but still happens.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (Enq6K)

485 >>>Lich is an undead reanimated, usually, based on overwhelming need, anger or thirst for revenge. Traditionally murdered or killed and left in a marsh or bog

Hill and Bill. The Lich and the Letch.

Posted by: Reach Jacker at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (dtWKK)

486 481 Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 12:00 PM (et0bf)

Andorians, and Caitians.

My ex was a Lich

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (SzZnW)

487 @419 Lich is an undead reanimated, usually, based on overwhelming need, anger or thirst for revenge. Traditionally murdered or killed and left in a marsh or bog

My God, didn't you read all those 596 DD monster manuals and supplements?
-----------------------

That's a revenant.



A lich was defined up above. It's a spell caster of some sort who's gone off the deep end in his or her attempts to stay alive, and is now some sort of undead. They still maintain their former intelligence, however, and so are often extremely dangerous due to their magical abilities. Many versions keep their soul in a piece of jewelry that's very carefully hidden, and so can't be killed unless the piece of jewelry is destroyed.

A close cousin is the Khadi, or Heartless Sorceror. It's a sorceror who has physically removed their heart from their body, and can't die unless the heart is located and destroyed.

Posted by: junior at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (YCyzO)

488 It probably wouldn't hurt to proofread my comments, but then that's probably an AOSHQ stylebook violation. And I'm only drinking my second cup of coffee, so there's that.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (JBggj)

489
448
429 Yes, I am also struck at how routine this appears to

be for the help staff. They have a planned and practiced protocol for hauling her lifeless carcass out of tricky situations.

_____________



Yes, I noticed that too. And they seemed less concerned about
Hillary's condition than they were about keeping people away. Did you
notice how they swarmed around her in a circle, facing away from her,
when she went down?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (NnYnv)





That's what struck me as well. But it's not about keeping people away, but screening the view.

By the way, save a copy of that video, because I'll give it another hour or so at most before Twatter suspends that guy's account.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (LuZz8)

490 Anyone else notice the guy with the Make America Great hat up on that grassy knoll?

Posted by: Announcer at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (scfNY)

491 MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.





I'm surprised that every network didn't do the same since they are nothing but mouthpieces for her campaign

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2016 12:01 PM (auHtY)

492 I sure am glad the Morons spoke out to me against going off topic on the pet thread two weeks ago.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


So, you're the one who gave us the idea!

Sorry to join the derailment, Vic, but events, dear boy...

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (RrDm2)

493 462
Pro Tip: If you are with somebody who feels faint and overheated, do
NOT try to keep them standing. Have them kneel down, sit down, lie
down; before they faint. And if they do faint, don't try to get them to
stand up and "walk it off".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoo


Yeah, as ludicrous as their explanations for this incident will be, the image of her on the concrete would be immediately fatal. I'm not sure this film won't be as well, but I've been wrong many times before, so let's see.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

494 >>.... I would be begging her to stop this nonsense and get healthy, fuck the
presidency. My loved one would be more important than a political title.



It has to be Hillary's quest to be the 1st woman elected president that drives her - she will live in the history books if not in the Oval Office.
As far as convincing her to stop: what else does she have? Everything she has done, starting with marry that charming hick whose coattails she could ride back to DC, has been for this moment. What friends does she have is she has no more power?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (NOIQH)

495 473 Trump should offer his private plane and helicopter to assist her in her
time of medical necessity. Also a suite in his building, complete with a
comprehensive medical staff."

I had a wonderful dream a couple of weeks ago. Hillary is debating Trump and she coughs, drinks water and then coughs again and spews the water all over the podium. Then she momentarily forgets herself and says "Shit!"

Game over. And that's not even an unrealistic dream.

The only thing that would make it better is if she spewed water all over Chris Wallace.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (P8951)

496 Compare and contrast -- old LizzieII (90 yo) and HC (69 yo). HC doesn't even come close.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (MIKMs)

497 That was no momentary faint from heat. That was an ongoing "medical episode" of some type.

And they were taking a risk by keeping her standing.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 11, 2016 12:03 PM (CLsvR)

498 Okay, after venturing to CNN, there's confirmation she left. It's actually a story.



Nice.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 12:03 PM (uFqpT)

499 My boss and his wife raised their great-grandson for four or five years, while their grand-daughter got herself straightened up...

Still slogging through Robert E Howard's "El Borak". An American adventurer in the wilds of Afghanistan...Written in the 30's...

An interesting little observation: In the story, any visiting westerner is called a 'Feringi' by the locals. A corruption of the term 'Frank' (Frenchman) from the Crusader era. Apparently Star Trek is not as original as they would have us believe....

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 11, 2016 12:03 PM (7aeqx)

500 Heinlein also used the atomic-powered rocket in his script for the sci-fi movie "Destination: Moon". However, that rocket uses water as the propellant, rather than zinc.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 11, 2016 12:03 PM (a5bF3)

501 Zdenek Gazda needs to stay away from Ft. Marcy Park .
Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (zu88C)


Oh hell yeah. I hope for his/her sake that's a fake name.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)

502 "Back when Europe was going through the Middle Ages, Islam was having a golden age of scientific and mathematic discovery...:

http://tinyurl.com/jq2pxbo

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 09:07 AM (kdS6q)


As soon as I clicked on this link and realized it was an io9 article, I knew it was going to be a complete POS.

It did not disappoint.

Bellyaching about "Islamophobia" and NOT ONE EFFING WORD about Islam's major contribution the modern world, i.e. murderous, psychopathic terrorism.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 12:04 PM (OxsRO)

503 Nood Hillary thread

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 12:04 PM (Enq6K)

504 Downloading that video for preservation purposes....

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (uz/Pv)

505 nood dead cankles walking.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (dtWKK)

506 Can you imagine what a bitch of a patient Hill must be? "I'll have a drink if I want one you stupid quack!"

-----

People dodging flying thrown objects , Huma prying Hill's claws from the staff's throats, demonic screaming about Right Wing Conspirators living behind the drapes...

Or as the Hillary Campaign calls it "Tuesday".

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (zu88C)

507
By the end of October her corpse may be still in the race and idiots would still vote for it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (auHtY)

508 The only thing that would make it better is if she spewed water all over Chris Wallace.

Posted by: DonnaV. whitely brandishing ampersandsso there



I prefer not to dwell on images of liquids spewing from Hillary.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (LAe3v)

509 Pro Tip: If you are with somebody who feels faint and overheated, do NOT try to keep them standing.

...because you risk giving them brain damage.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (RrDm2)

510 willowed

Posted by: Mortimer at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (zu88C)

511 Wow. The msm spin is incredible. Video of Hillary before dropping, coming out of Chelseas. Reference to unsubstantiated videos on the internet from people who 'just don't like Hillary'.


Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (ZFUt7)

512
Y'know, there's a small chance that the collapse of Frau Gruppencankles might not get swept under the rug. Look at that guy's Twatter feed. A shitload of MFM types asking for permission to use the video.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 12:05 PM (LuZz8)

513 Hillary thread up.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 12:06 PM (mvenn)

514 Help Wanted: Immediate opening with tremendous growth potential.

Posted by: Tim Kaine Oppo Research Team at September 11, 2016 12:06 PM (97XyN)

515 I would be begging her to stop this nonsense and get healthy, fuck the
presidency. My loved one would be more important than a political title.
-----------------------

It has to be Hillary's quest to be the 1st woman elected president that drives her - she will live in the history books if not in the Oval Office.
As far as convincing her to stop: what else does she have? Everything she has done, starting with marry that charming hick whose coattails she could ride back to DC, has been for this moment. What friends does she have is she has no more power?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 12:02 PM (NOIQH)


I know it sounds cruel, but evidently some people need to be reminded: These are not people. These are politicians. She doesn't have "loved ones." There aren't people who care about her, and consider her health more important than her legacy.


That's how humans think. These are not humans.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2016 12:07 PM (Pz4pT)

516 Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser one time had a horrible string of luck, even their girlfriends were giggling at them. So they consulted the gods they worshiped and were told to wait for the girl who will come. Well the girl arrives and soon our intrepid heroes are on a quest to help her. But it turns out the girl is not on the up and up, quelle surprise out? Her twin brother has turned himself into a Khadi and they must defeat him in order to rescue her from said durance vile.

Sven, wash it? Nyah?

Andorians are the most under-utilized race. And the Caitians would make lots of boys and many girls think funny and feel funny. Plus the shedding would cause Engineering to go to 110% manning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2016 12:07 PM (et0bf)

517 Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (SuJIo)

I wondered what happened!

Will you let us know when it's available again?

Several times, pretty please, as I am not always around?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:07 PM (mk+UY)

518 Nor would I. But the woman who classed we 'Deplorables' as less-than-human gets what she sows.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 11, 2016 11:55 AM (uz/Pv)

This. She has lied so much and made so many people suffer in the past because of her corruption and lust for power that I find I feel absolutely nothing when I watch her cough and wheeze and stumble about.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands&&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 12:08 PM (P8951)

519 @462 Chayzus, Muldoon. I mean, that's sound and charitable medical advice, and all, but...

couldn't you state that in the form of a limerick?
We have some standards here, you know.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 11, 2016 12:08 PM (tIja6)

520 Yes, I noticed that too. And they seemed less concerned about
Hillary's condition than they were about keeping people away. Did you
notice how they swarmed around her in a circle, facing away from her,
when she went down?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (NnYnv)


I'm thinking that may very well be standard Secret Service protocol that they would do if any of their protectees went down, i.e. their first priority is to guard against any threats that could be coming in from any direction, so they need an outward facing shield.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 12:09 PM (OxsRO)

521 503
Nood Hillary thread


Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 12:04 PM (Enq6K)

All Scankles posts and politics go to the nood thread.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 12:09 PM (mpXpK)

522 DavidFalkayn, welcome, and please make yourself comfortable! (Which is TammySpeak for keep commenting)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:09 PM (mk+UY)

523 She walked out of the apartment smiling and waving. Says "I feel great!"

They must have upped her dose.

Posted by: Bob at September 11, 2016 12:11 PM (n3hky)

524 JTB, my condolences and prayers for you and Mrs JTB.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:11 PM (mk+UY)

525 "By the end of October her corpse may be still in the race and idiots would still vote for i"

Another first. The first zombie POTUS.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2016 12:13 PM (JSovD)

526 CNN busily ONLY showing the video of Hilary leaving the apartment under her own power

Posted by: Announcer at September 11, 2016 12:13 PM (scfNY)

527 @516 Andorians are the most under-utilized race.
------------------

You mean in the shows? Or in STO? Because my vague recollection is that Enterprise (which I barely watched) made a lot of use of them.

Posted by: junior at September 11, 2016 12:13 PM (YCyzO)

528 I hope somebody caches that video, before Twitter tries to flush it down the memory hole. I have no such skillz.

Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 11, 2016 12:14 PM (G2Sc9)

529 I have about 7,000 volumes of science fiction first editions. It's been a while since I posted pics of my bookshelves on my other blog, but I suppose I could if you wanted to feature it:

http://www.lawrenceperson.com/?tag=books

Posted by: Lawrence Person at September 11, 2016 12:15 PM (zPalU)

530 Children being raised by their grandparents was fairly common during the great depression.
My own father was raised by his.
He was brought to his grandparents at age six and walked back home crying all the way, only to be brought back.

Posted by: navybrat at September 11, 2016 12:16 PM (w7KSn)

531 This is part of the plan. By publicly "fainting" or whatever it is she did on an important and memorable day, they guarantee that even the LIVs only concerned about football will hear of it--or see video- and finally realize that Hillary is not healthy enough to run the rigors of a campaign--let alone be president.

The clock is now running on the end of her campaign.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2016 12:18 PM (g4XtW)

532 Though the movie will have little resemblance with the book' I like Tom Cruise movies and will be sure to see it. Then I had to start reading random Reacher books from my collection.

Posted by: sawhorse at September 11, 2016 11:15 AM (JIz7y)

I'm sorry, I haven't been able to suspend my disbelief enough to see Cruise as Jack Reacher, no matter how good an actor he is. In the novels, Jack Reacher is a physically intimidating 6 foot something 200+ lb. badass. Cruise, on the other hand is about a foot shorter and weighs about half that.

Now Adam Baldwin, *he* would make a good Jack Reacher. Also that actor who plays his CO on the TV series 'The Last Ship' would be good, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 11, 2016 12:18 PM (OxsRO)

533 Morning all.

Remembering 9/11 at a gun show. Picked up a Savage Axis II .308 as a memento.

Posted by: Country Boy at September 11, 2016 12:19 PM (HzPuJ)

534 Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 10:48 AM (e9hKK)

Three Men in a Boat is hysterical. That kind of writing is my happy place. Dry British humor at its finest.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:25 PM (mk+UY)

535 Bill Maher in 2012
"Can you believe these republicans think Benghazi will affect 2016?"
https://youtu.be/3SlMHDNHK34

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 11, 2016 12:26 PM (VdICR)

536 Posted by: Lawrence Person at September 11, 2016 12:15 PM (zPalU)

YES, please!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:26 PM (mk+UY)

537 Ted Bundy's sister was his mother. He snapped.

Posted by: Rev Al

Hey, it's just Chinatown, Jake

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...deplorable American at September 11, 2016 12:28 PM (S6Pax)

538 nuker, your library is awesome!

I am once again shamed by the lack of any dust on the shelves.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2016 12:38 PM (mk+UY)

539 Project Orion in the early 60s. It would probably work for interplanetary travel, but I wouldn't want to watch one launch that way.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 09:58 AM (sdi6R)


Niven and Pournelle described such a rocket in the novel "Footfall". Launched secretly from near Bellingham, WA, while Earth was under occupation by aliens. I don't think Bellingham made out all that well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 12:38 PM (oqkO3)

540 My mom was an older mom. She had me at 42, with my sister at college, brother in high school and another brother in elementary. We had the opposite problem....everyone THOUGHT she was my grandmother, and my sister was my mom. Good thing I am the spitting imagine of my dad's sister.....

When I was in elementary school, someone out right asked he if she was my grandmother. She had salt and pepper hair at the time. That was the last time I saw a grey hair on her head, it got blonder as I got older....

Posted by: Tina at September 11, 2016 12:40 PM (NKTDJ)

541 Anyone else suspect ol' Qutb couldn't get any of those licentious American girls to give him the time of day? Ever? He should have tried bathing with soap. Verily, as the sage has said, "Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted..."

Note to anyone who may have pre-ordered the Light in the Darkness boxed set I have a book in! The Amazon robots had a seizure and took the whole thing down, canceling all the preorders. BUT! It is still happening. All the non-Amazon sources still have it, and we are in the process of getting it reinstated on Amazon. You may have to preorder again, though. Sorry!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 11, 2016 10:21 AM (SuJIo)


I don't think it helped old Qutb that he basically looked like Peter Lorre at his weaselly best.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 12:46 PM (oqkO3)

542 Awesome built-in shelves, nuker!

Posted by: sinalco the deplorable at September 11, 2016 01:02 PM (yODqO)

543 Hers would certainly be a well-stocked library. Maybe she could hide some of this stuff in one of the books.

A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqUmMCb4r-U

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 11, 2016 01:05 PM (vBeA5)

544 Read "Danger Close" the story of a helicoptor pilot who did two tours (one in Iraq, 1 in Afghanistan). She flew Kiowa copters. Good read. There's some personal stuff, lots of military stuff, very interesting overall.

Posted by: John Pomeroy at September 11, 2016 01:06 PM (eoj7r)

545 MSNBC is reading a statement from the Clinton campaign. Said she felt "overheated" so she went to Hillary's apartment and now feels better.

I'd say thats confirmation.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2016 11:11 AM (/tuJf)


Glycol leak in #2 heat exchanger. Bar's Leaks administered. Nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Tech team, DNC Robotics at September 11, 2016 01:12 PM (oqkO3)

546 Sharbat Gula is probably a name you don't remember,

You can say that again !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2016 01:16 PM (ALxsB)

547 As a kid, my best friend was being raised by his grandparents. He was born out of wedlock. On rare occasions, his mother would come to visit. They were somber occasions.

We lost touch after high school graduation. One night, many years later, I left work at midnight. Decided to shower and go to a local bar. Sat at the only empty stool. Though he looked nothing like my childhood friend, the fellow next to me reminded me of him. Asked if his name was [redacted]. He looked at me with crazy eyes. I thought "Oh, oh spoke to the wrong person." He hung his head, then looked back at me and said "I came to this bar, far from my hometown, because I knew I would not run into anyone I knew." He was back home to settle the estate of his biological father.

A couple of years later I took a job that required travel. Visited him in San Francisco area. Found that his wife was a woman I knew. She would come home to visit, but she never mentioned she was married to him.

He maintained an admirable family and was a Vice President at IBM. His childhood history may have contributed to his strong family, have heard of such instances.

Posted by: French Jeton at September 11, 2016 01:24 PM (WMvHw)

548 What I don't understand is why didn't they take hillary to the nearest Planned Parenthood Women's Health Clinic -- I hear they're the best and only place a woman can go these days for good medical care?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:56 AM (8LCz6)


Not the prime source for virgins' blood, but they do have baby pancreases.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 01:42 PM (oqkO3)

549 A great idea. I'd suggest fully outfitting a suite in Trump Tower, complete with a medical bed, a doctor, nursing staff (in scrubs), a hospital bed, and monitoring equipment. Maybe one of those full-size cardboard images of Hillary lying on the bed (I mean physical placement, not speaking) . That would make a great photo.

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2016 11:58 AM (JBggj)


Somewhere in the bowels of Chelsea's "apartment"...

"Quick, Igor, the defibrillator, she's going into cardiac arrest."


Hum! Zap! Smoke arises from the Beast's Lie Generator Module.

"You fool! You hooked up the de-fibulator! Now she will speak nothing but truth! We are ruined! Ruined, I tell you!"

Hillary rises mechanically from the gurney. "I am Hill-dan, destroyer of America. Bow down before me, or die."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 01:50 PM (oqkO3)

550 Wait a second. Are you saying that whatever this 'medical incident' was, it is really a 12-dimensional chess move of an elaborate trap to deceive the Trump campaign into saying something impolitic that leads to a great "Aha! Gotcha!" moment and an awakening of the electorate that swings the ultimate outcome of the election in Hillary's favor?


YEAH ! She's been reading the Chess Thread !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2016 01:55 PM (ALxsB)

551 There is a Scankles thread that is not a book thread folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 02:09 PM (mpXpK)

552 Yeeesh.


I go to work and suddenly it's Skankle-palooza around here.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2016 02:24 PM (0cMkb)

553 Having a hard time lately finding distraction books . Usually I go to detective or mysteries for this. Someone here I think suggested Alex Segura Down the Dark Street, and Silent City. Read them out of order. Good, kind of old style noir , current day Miami. And I also picked off the library shelf The Murder Notebook Jonathan Santlofer. Sleep walked through 3/4 of it. Started again and once I got into it it was a good tale. Main character is a forensic artist and crimes are solved through his drawings. Pretty decent. I finished it.

Someone recommended Montefiore's Stalin . Picked it up. Don't know how I mised Montefiore in graduate school -- maybe slept through him also. But he looks like he has some other decent reads so thanks. I always default to Robert Conquest for the Stalin horrors and Solzhenitsyn, of course. so I am looking forward to Montefiore.

Help. It seems someone mentioned a book by a female writer -- she has written a few on Russia -- but the one I am thinking of is something like the Red Fortress, or the Red Kremlin . Can't remember.

Hard to make the thread in timely fashion, but it is my favorite. I always walk away with so much. Thanks OM and all youse guys.


Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 02:46 PM (OU4q6)

554 553 Hard to make the thread in timely fashion, but it is my favorite. I always walk away with so much. Thanks OM and all youse guys.




Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 02:46 PM (OU4q6)

Although the posts slow down this thread usually runs to at least in the evening as people continue to come by and look for ideas. I have seen it run all the way into Monday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 02:51 PM (mpXpK)

555
*Interesting unknown historical fact:

Sayyid Qutb,

while visiting one of the pyramids of Egypt fell into a time warp
nexus where he arrived in 2016 and had a conversation with Hillary
Clinton about her fellow Americans before returning home and writing his
book.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2016 09:22 AM (HGtd0)

To prepare for her Presidency Hillary then promptly borrowed Barack Obama's copy from his personal library.

Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 02:56 PM (OU4q6)

556 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2016 02:51 PM (mpXpK)

Thanks. Good to know. And Thanks also for the news. It is my first read every morning.

Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 02:58 PM (OU4q6)

557 Gracepc, have you read Bill Pronzini (the Nameless Detective series) or Sharyn McCrumb (the Ballad series)?

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 03:13 PM (HmxmL)

558 557
Gracepc, have you read Bill Pronzini (the Nameless Detective series) or Sharyn McCrumb (the Ballad series)?

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 03:13 PM (HmxmL)

************No, I have not. Detective/Mysterys books and netflix/amazon streams are my go to escape. You recommend I assume. I will look them up. Thanks.

Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 03:18 PM (OU4q6)

559 I do recommend them. I finished The Ballad of Tom Dooley not long ago and was intrigued by her research into what inspired the song. I like most of McCrumb's other books, too, but do skip The PMS Outlaws. The heroine deals with depression by checking herself into a psychiatric hospital, and I couldn't finish it.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 03:28 PM (HmxmL)

560 If you read a number of Heinlein's Juvenile stories and his early shorts. They all talk of a UN running the world with limited autonomy to the national governments or to the blocks of interests nations folded themselves into. Also remember that big hope post WW2 was that the UN would eliminate war and that if you combine that with Heinlein's short story "solution unsatisfactory" (written in 1941), where an international police force has nuclear weapons and anot even more dangerous weapon based on nuclear dust. So the UN was a superior force compared to the older league of nations and even the Kellogg Pact on rejection of war from the 20s. Go later into Heinlein's writing and he calls out the UN for the corruption filled hive of villainy that we all knew it has become. Also, read his expanded universe books and he relates in an essay that all his shorts and juvenile novels as well as the adult ones from Starship Troopers on are on the same time line or have mild divergence where the new timeline loops back in to the main one at a later point.

Posted by: Charles at September 11, 2016 03:29 PM (ZBdpD)

561 Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 11, 2016 03:28 PM (HmxmL)

Thanks I definitely will check them out. And I love it when something is well researched.

I know what you mean about the depression/mental institutions etc. Sometimes I can take it ( hey it's in a lot of D/M series involved with murderers etc) and sometimes not. In The Murder Notebook there is brain alteration. But the idea of using a forensic sketch artist to connect clues and lead to solving crimes is a good one.

Posted by: gracepc at September 11, 2016 03:40 PM (OU4q6)

562 Bobby Darin

"He was present on the night of June 4/5, 1968, at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles at the time of Kennedy's assassination. The same year, he discovered that he had been brought up by his grandmother, not his mother, and that the girl he had thought to be his sister was actually his mother. These events deeply affected Darin and sent him into a long period of seclusion."

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at September 11, 2016 04:07 PM (EMi53)

563 We've secretly switched Hilary Clinton's breakfast vodka for valu rite. Now let's see if she can tell the difference...
Posted by: Announcer at September 11, 2016 11:54 AM (scfNY)

Crank up the ROFL 'copter!

Thread winnah!

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2016 04:48 PM (YeKKY)

564 "41 Can someone dumb down an explanation for atomic powered aircraft? What would the reactor power in a jet? "

How about steam turbines operating propellers ?

Look for a paperback called "Steam Bird", can't remember the authors name, and the book is packed away ....

Hilbert Schenck.
Thank you, Amazon !
Six cents, + 3.99 shipping

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 11, 2016 05:20 PM (Z8DIA)

565 Anna Puma @516, you are describing the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser story "Adept's Gambit". It is included in the collection "Swords in the Mist".

It has one of Leiber's very best opening paragraphs:

"It happened that while Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser were dallying in a wine shop near the Sidonian Harbor of Tyre, where all wine shops are of doubtful repute, a long-limbed yellow-haired Galatian girl lolling in Fafhrd's lap tuned suddenly into a wallopingly large sow. It was a singular occurance, even in Tyre. The Mouser's eyebrows arched as the Galatian's breasts, exposed by the Cretan dress that was the style revival of the hour, became the uppermost pair of slack white dugs, and he watched the whole proceeding with unfeigned interest."

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 11, 2016 05:28 PM (Tp5Dh)

566 I may grab a first on this thread but all day I come back to see if anybody needs any tips I have or take a few others leave.
Going to get A Sea of Words by Dean King, the preview alone has lots of information.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2016 07:16 PM (0G2eQ)

567 I'm reading A Winter Haunting by Dan Simmons.

Posted by: Kara Witham at September 11, 2016 11:07 PM (ar0r6)

568 No pants here, I'm Kilted to Kick Cancer. I just finished the books that Krakatoa was hawking a few weeks back, the Phoenix Empire series of which there currently are two and a side story. They start out kind of choppy but it's a good story so far.

Posted by: GGE of the Mobile Horde at September 12, 2016 12:18 AM (UDw5w)

569 Late to the game, busy weekend, but if you read "To the End of the Solar System" you will see how close we came to having a second nuclear stage on the Saturn V. It is indeed possible and necessary to have an nuclear rocket to unlock the solar system; chemical rocket specific impulses limit it significantly.

Posted by: Linlithgow at September 12, 2016 07:13 PM (Gim9y)

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