Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-17-2016: The Thin Blue Line [OregonMuse]


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The New York Society Library, 53 East 79th Street


Good morning to all of you morons and moronettes and bartenders everywhere and all the ships at sea. Welcome to AoSHQ's stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are lovely, safe spaces are for losers, and nobody cares about what kind of snowflake you are, so suck it up, buttercup. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even these absolutely fabulous Zubaz pants.


#BlueLivesMatter

I've always liked Heather MacDonald's articles in The City Journal. Her work is scholarly, erudite, and facts-and-research-based. She's a conservative who I am glad is one my side, doing what she can to fight the good fight. Her latest City Journal piece, Chicago on the Brink is a cautionary tale of what happens to a city when the police back away from pedestrian stops and public-order policing, i.e. reduce their visible presence in a neighborhood to a minimum. What happens is that crime increases, which means that more black people die. And she demonstrates this using facts and logic.

But never mind that. #BlackLivesMatter!

Her new book, The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe, is a bestseller.

Violent crime has been rising sharply in many American cities after two decades of decline. Homicides jumped nearly 17 percent in 2015 in the largest 50 cities, the biggest one-year increase since 1993. The reason is what Heather Mac Donald first identified nationally as the “Ferguson effect”: Since the 2014 police shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, officers have been backing off of proactive policing, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

This book expands on Mac Donald’s groundbreaking and controversial reporting on the Ferguson effect and the criminal-justice system. It deconstructs the central narrative of the Black Lives Matter movement: that racist cops are the greatest threat to young black males. On the contrary, it is criminals and gangbangers who are responsible for the high black homicide death rate.

But never mind that. #BlackLivesMatter!

Slogans, not facts!

And for more on #BlackLivesMatter, there's Black Lies Matter: Why Lies Matter to the Race Grievance Industry by Taleeb Starkes, who discusses

...a certain black-based industry — which specializes in nurturing comfortable lies while burying uncomfortable truths — propagates a notion that “racism” is the foremost issue facing black Americans, and white cops are blood-thirsty enforcers. Moreover, this cunning, race-peddling entity knows that it's easier to lie to blacks than to convince blacks that they've been lied to. Thus, black "lies" are good for business... black "lives" are good for nothing (except exploitation). And presently, business is booming.

And speaking of bad ideas, Heather MacDonald is also the author of The Burden of Bad Ideas: How Modern Intellectuals Misshape Our Society. What bad ideas? How about:

At a Brooklyn high school, students perfect their graffiti skills for academic credit. An Ivy League law professor urges blacks to steal from their employers. Washington bureaucrats regard theft by drug addicts as evidence of disability, thereby justifying benefits. Public health officials argue that racism and sexism cause women to get AIDS. America's premier monument to knowledge, the Smithsonian Institution, portrays science as white man's religion.

To these I would add the idea that a corrupt, cynical ex-Secretary of State who has peddled influence for cash, ran interference for her husband's sexual predation for at least two decades, and brazenly lied to the public about her carelessness in handling classified documents is qualified to be the next President of the United States.

Anyway:

And while these beliefs have damaged the nation as a whole, she observes, they have hit the poor especially hard.

See, that's thing. Progressives are always proclaiming their great concern for the poor, but all of their end up hurting the poor. The rich always have money and resources to shield themselves from the consequences of their folly. For example, driving while drunk is, generally, a Bad Idea, but if you're Ted Kennedy, your powerful friends will make sure that the authorities will buy your cock-and-bull story about how your abandonment of a drowning woman was not really your fault.

Or, more to the point, who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised? I don't know, but I have an idea: rich, liberal white women, who can afford to be stupid. If you're poor, though, being a single mom is really tough, and perhaps that kind of living arrangement ought not to be encouraged, wherever possible.

Of course, we know that progressives don't give a damn about the poor, they just want to them to bend over so they can climb up on their backs to reach the levers of power. That's all the poor are good for to the left.

Metamorphosis

According to this article in Business Insider, a giant kinetic sculpture of the head of Czech author Franz Kafka has been installed on the outside of the city hall in Prague.

Artist David Černý says his sculpture, entitled K on Sun, is to remind you of Kafka when you're "totally frustrated by the incompetence of state employees."

If that was his intention, maybe he should have set up a shooting gallery or a dunk tank instead.

The sculpture is in Prague, right next to a building in which Kafka himself once worked as a clerk in an insurance comp any, and across from City Hall.

So it sounds like Kafka spent most of his life at the vortex of a giant sinkhole of bureaucratic suck that annihilates all life and hope. Which, actually, would explain a lot of his writing.


Live-In Library Employment

H/T to several of you morons who sent me a link to this piece about the New York Public Library Superintendents whose employment included the perk of living in an apartment on the library premesis, in an apartment off to one side.

I guess I should've said "used to be".

Unfortunately, the days of live-in superintendents at libraries appear to be over. The last known live-in superintendent moved out of the NYPL's Webster Branch, located at 1468 York Avenue in Yorkville, in 2006. From the Port-Richmond Branch in Staten Island to the Morrisania Branch in the Bronx, however, the city's libraries were once home to dozens of live-in superintendents and their families.

So we missed out by a half-dozen years. And what were the job requirements for such a position?

[they] would likely include everything from a great command of English to the ability to supervise staff to a general knowledge of electrical, plumbing, HVAC and carpentry repair. Many current live-in superintendent positions also require applicants to have a high-level of computer skills and experience working with one or more building management software programs. Finally, anyone interested in taking on the role of live-in superintendent needs to be committed to working around the clock and working year-round.

That's a pretty gnarly skill set and I wonder how many people can actually match it? Particularly since some of them appear to be at cross-purposes, i.e. if you're an HVAC guy, you're probably not going to know a lot about computers. I could be wrong, but to me, this sort of sounds like advertising for an artist who has sold commissioned works and who also understands differential equations. It's pretty much a truism that if you're good at the one thing, you're not going to be good at the other.


Moron Recommendations

Longtime moron Fritzworth recommends a YA book written by fellow Utahan Dave Butler, The Kidnap Plot (The Extraordinary Journeys of Clockwork Charlie), and here, "YA" means ages 8-12. FW says:

Butler has blended SF, fantasy, alternate history and steampunk into a non-stop adventure tale that is accessible to children without ever being condescending or simplistic. And, like any excellent "child's" entertainment, there's a lot for adults to read between the lines here. I would have loved this book as an 8-year-old (of course, I started reading Heinlein at that age), and I thoroughly loved it now. Highly recommended for all ages.

FW also observes that "the exact same plot and events could have been written as an adult novel, and it would have been great as well."


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Again dipping into ace's book rec thread (which I've been dining out on for weeks now), I notice that alexthechick is enjoying Influx by Daniel Suarez. She says this book is "an interesting conceit and well done so far."

Why has the high-tech future that seemed imminent in the 1960's failed to arrive?

Perhaps it did arrive...but only for a select few.

Particle physicist Jon Grady is ecstatic when his team achieves what they've been working toward for years: a device that can reflect gravity. Their research will revolutionize the field of physics--the crowning achievement of a career. Grady expects widespread acclaim for his entire team. The Nobel. Instead, his lab is locked down by a shadowy organization whose mission is to prevent at all costs the social upheaval sudden technological advances bring. This Bureau of Technology Control uses the advanced technologies they have harvested over the decades to fulfill their mission.

Hmmm. This fits in very well with the elite's "good stuff for me, but not for thee" theme I've been harping on for the last few weeks. This one is now on my list. And, at $9.99, the Kindle version just sneaks in under Vic's absolute upper limit.


Books by Morons

Moron author Michael Hooten has a new book out. And unlike his first two, Cricket's Song and A Bard Without a Star), which were fantasy, We Are All Enlisted is science fiction:

It takes place in the near future (the 2080's), and is a about a boy who joins the Navy on Earth expecting to go to a ship or a sub, but instead ends up in the space command. He's an enlisted man, as are most of the characters. I wrote it in part because all the stories involving the military seem to be about the officers, and they make up only a small part of any military. The ordinary grunts, or in this case squids, do all the work and get none of the credit. If you don't believe me, just ask any of them.

Perhaps Hooten should have titled his new book Squids In Space.

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Moronette 'votermom' is putting together a list of moron authors over on the Goodreads site which is intended to be acessible to non-members. Here is the list she has compiled so far. Let her know if there's an author she's missing.

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Morning.

Posted by: HH at July 17, 2016 08:58 AM (DrCtv)

2 Good morning bookworms.
Slowly getting through A Higher Call by Adam Makos. A strange fact the German who got credit for shooting down Ye Old Pub (a B-17) was killed and the B-17 actually survived.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 09:02 AM (bksJQ)

3 Mornin'.

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2016 09:03 AM (Sfs6o)

4 Not sure how it's done but would love to get a picture of the college library I was working on the other week for the book thread. But don't know if I could get a picture finished (may not get back to that job) or maybe a released photo from the college.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 09:05 AM (bksJQ)

5 So this week, I finished reading Heinlein's "Double Star" as part of my RAH re-reading program. As I expected, I enjoyed it very much.

I got a yard sale copy of Niven's "Ringworld Engineers", because I've never read any of this stuff and it keeps getting recommended here. Stopped reading it after a couple of pages because it was clear I'd enjoy it more if I had read "Ringworld". So yesterday Amazon came through and I started on "Ringworld" last night. I think I made two good choices and will have some enjoyable reading ahead.

I also finished reading a Kindle version of Sarah Hoyt/D'Almeida's "Death of a Musketeer" which I quite enjoyed and I think I will be looking for more of her books in the future!

The Ace link to Amazon is here
http://tinyurl.com/huw2wbn

Sadly, I also got a copy of the "Dog Cancer: Survival Guide" by Dressler. Tough reading but very informative and hopefully this will be very helpful to me in the time I have left with my Toby pup.

The Ace link to Amazon is here
http://tinyurl.com/jowtckb

I'm off to church, as I need to be, but I wish a good day to all the Horde and will check the book thread later, even though I have taken a (temporary) vow of abstinence from buying books based on recommendations here!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 09:06 AM (wYnyS)

6 This week reading, 'The Korean War', by Max Hastings. Well written. Filled with micro details regarding all aspects, political, military, and personal of the war.

If you are interested in the details (and you ought to be), it's a very good read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 09:10 AM (9mTYi)

7 Ah le Book Thread; best thread of the week. Have been working on the three book series dealing with the "Talents Saga". It is a prequel to the "Tower and Hive" series. I had the first two books already in paperback and had not read them in a while. I have never read the third book at all. Which is what led me to go ahead and hit this series once again on the Kindle.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 17, 2016 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

8 I read the space opera The Golden Transcendence: Book Three of the Golden Age by John C. Wright. The hero, Phaethon, is a rebel in a near perfect future world. He builds a starship and wants to seed humanity throughout the galaxy. The powers in charge and agents from a long-lost dead star attempt to stop him. Wright has created and interesting, complex future universe.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 17, 2016 09:11 AM (JYer2)

9 NY library picture looks like my living room, except much neater and larger.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 17, 2016 09:12 AM (mpXpK)

10 Last week, was happy to find out many here have read "A Distant Mirror" by Barbara Tuchman.

I was looking for a biography of Charles Martel and came across the work of Susan Rice Bauer. So, via Amazon, 3 of here history titles are on there way to me - anyone here familiar with here books?

Posted by: _ZEKE_ at July 17, 2016 09:14 AM (wiMhy)

11 Good morning Book Threaders!

In case you missed it - on Friday I posted an interview of Matt Margolis, author of "The Worst President in History: The Legacy of Barack Obama" which is a fat book full of facts.

http://www.bookhorde.org/2016/07/interview-with-matt-margolis.html

He's also the guy who started trolling TFG this week with a "booksforglocks.com" redirect.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:14 AM (7lVbc)

12 "her" not "here"

effin ipad.....

Posted by: _ZEKE_ at July 17, 2016 09:15 AM (wiMhy)

13 Leftists are completely incapable of distinguishing between discouraging bad ideas and condemning entire groups of people.

It is not a terrible thing to say, "For the sake of your future children, wait until you are in a stable relationship, and hopefully a marriage, before you conceive them."

That's not judging single mothers. It's not saying that single mothers are terrible people. It's only saying that you and your children will be far better off if you have two incomes and two people supporting your family. It's pretty good advice!

But leftists would insist that such a statement is sexist, judgmental and probably racist. They would seek to affirm single mothers and all of their decisions, not caring that this affirmation of poor decision-making leads to more women and children existing in poverty.

You can extend this to several different arenas. You shouldn't be written off as a religious scold if you tell young people to practice abstinence, you're not a homophobe if you announce that homosexual activity can be dangerous, you're not a racist if you think the solution to problems in the black community is that they stay in school.

The funny thing is- I know all of these things, I've done all of these things and I have a successful life. I don't need to be told any of this, so if leftists and their minions would like to write me off as a bigot and totally ignore this, they do so only at their own peril. My life continues, unabated.

Posted by: Randy Weaver's Revenge at July 17, 2016 09:15 AM (lNqgy)

14 Goodreads members please participate in our monthly group reads - the first step is voting for the next book to read!

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:15 AM (7lVbc)

15 8 I read the space opera The Golden Transcendence: Book Three of the Golden Age by John C. Wright. The hero, Phaethon, is a rebel in a near perfect future world. He builds a starship and wants to seed humanity throughout the galaxy. The powers in charge and agents from a long-lost dead star attempt to stop him. Wright has created and interesting, complex future universe.
Posted by: Zoltan at July 17, 2016 09:11 AM (JYer2)

Hmmm, wasn't this essentially the idea that the Worm guy had in the Dune series- the Golden Path? The idea that if you could seed enough people throughout the galaxy, humanity's future would be assured.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 09:16 AM (3ZoRf)

16 It's my problem too, remember
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Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 09:16 AM (bksJQ)

17 In last week's book thread, there was a solicitation for beta readers for a fellow Moron's new book, A Place Outside the Wild.

If you like post-apocalyptic/zombie fiction, this book is fantastic. Well drawn and disparate characters with multiple converging story lines, good dialogue, well done action scenes. The book has it all. You should definitely check it out.

Not sure if he's still looking for readers, but you could hit him up at:

dhumphreys5252 at gmail dot com

Posted by: L. W. Badger at July 17, 2016 09:18 AM (9anvi)

18 Michael Hooten, if you're reading this, I would absolutely read a book called Squids In Space.

And I just downloaded your book. I too am fed up with the preponderance of mil sciff with officers, or worse, royal/aristocratic officers. Like a drooling Hapsburg could figure out an astro-navigator!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 17, 2016 09:20 AM (jR7Wy)

19 Also, I have to recommend The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright.

I was 14 years old on 9/11, so maybe the book won't be as shocking to people who were adults on that day. But I'd always had a perception that the true horror of 9/11 was when the second plane hit the WTC. Reading this book, it was horrifying to realize that quite a few people would have seen the first plane hit and known exactly what was going on.

Or even two days earlier, when Ahmed Shah Massoud was assassinated (an event most Americans didn't even notice), some analysts realized that bin Laden was appeasing the Taliban and something big was about to happen.

I won't even go into the myriad of conflicts between the CIA and FBI that resulted in no one having the whole picture, thus allowing the attack to proceed.

Read the book.

Posted by: Randy Weaver's Revenge at July 17, 2016 09:21 AM (lNqgy)

20 This week acquired a copy of "Portrait of a Dog", by De La Roche, to gift to the Vet who has been looking after our little dog Sophie. It's a vintage book, 1930

If you're a dog lover, it's a good read. Review at Goodreads:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j2fuhze
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One day last week, I was surprised while watching Jeopardy when one of the questions had to do the book genres associated with authors. Up popped Jack Kjelgaard. The contestants stood mute, as I muttered 'dogs' and glanced at my boyhood copy of 'Big Red' on a nearby bookshelf.

Am I the only one who read Kjelgaard as a child?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 09:24 AM (9mTYi)

21 [i[Like a drooling Hapsburg could figure out an astro-navigator!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 17, 2016 09:20 AM (jR7Wy)
Hey now, it requires a lot of hand eye coordination and practice to do keyboard entry using a swagger stick!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 09:24 AM (wYnyS)

22 Am I the only one who read Kjelgaard as a child?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 09:24 AM (9mTYi)
No, but I admit I had forgotten that name!
How about Albert Payson Terhune?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 09:26 AM (wYnyS)

23 I will have to add Michael Hooten to my list

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:26 AM (7lVbc)

24 Since I'd already read Loyal Valley: Assassination, the Horde book of the month, I read the sequel Loyal Valley: Bystanders by Elizabeth Wolfe. Denizens of Loyal Valley continue to be threatened by the shadowy figure known as Number 7, along with raiding Apaches and hired killers. Entertaining Western, look forward to book 3.

Read The Puppet Masters by Robert Heinlein, where slug-like aliens have invaded Earth and US govt agents fight to root them out. Enjoyed the story though found the first-person perspective wearying after awhile. Oddly doesn't bother me when Chandler does it with Marlow.

Read Shakespeare's King Henry IV Part I, another tremendous history play that introduces the figure of Falstaff. Actually the Oxford version they reverted to the name Oldcastle, which Shakespeare was apparently forced to change by his powerful living relatives, so some of the puns work better now. Get a showdown between the wayward Prince Hal and the warrior Hotspur, who leads the rebellion against Henry IV, but it's not over, so there is a Part 2.

Read Death In The Afternoon, a non-fiction book by Hemingway where he expresses his love of bull-fighting. Holy cow he knows a lot about it (as of 1932). Sometimes he loses me with the level of detail (bulls have a favorite horn to gore with?) but his discussions of Matadors, their styles of fighting bulls, the injuries they receive, how they learn the trade, on and on it's really gripping stuff.

Posted by: waelse1 at July 17, 2016 09:27 AM (kZFjr)

25 So I started "God or Nothing" by Cardinal Robert Sarah. So far, so good. Interesting that everyone in his area in Guinea thought only white people could be priests, based on their experience, so Cardinal Sarah's being invited to attend the minor seminary was quite shocking. I have a feeling I'm going to like him quite a lot. He does seem to have kicked up a dust storm over ad orientem masses so that's interesting even though I don't get real excited on that subject.

And I started reading "Gone to Sea in a Bucket," a recommendation from last week. So far, so good, but I feel sure things are going to go tits up very, very soon.

"Hollywood Babylon" is going much more quickly now that I am mostly just looking at the pictures and skimming. Such careless, stupid people.

And I forgot about the Jonathan Kellerman book I was reading so it spent an entire week stuffed under a pillow. That should tell you my level of excitement.

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 17, 2016 09:28 AM (VsZJP)

26 O/T Bono is an ass ( this is why the terrorists are winning... No resolve from the West whatsoever)
http://tinyurl.com/h7k83gc

Back on topic:
Am reading The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius . The clarity and timelessness of classic lit is a comfort to me especially when the world is descending into chaos.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 17, 2016 09:29 AM (oQQwD)

27 I'm reading Bruce Lancaster's The American Revolution.

Did you know that the Marquis de Lafayette's full name was (deep breath):

Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier?

I'd be all "y'all can jus' call me Marquis."



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 17, 2016 09:30 AM (WlGX+)

28 I'd mentioned a couple days ago on an art thread a YA novel I'd loved as a kid called The Satanic Mill based on a German or Czech story.

main character is named Krabat and the title has been changed to Krabat, Krabat and the Mill, others.

the author is Otfried Preussler and there's also a movie or two.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krabat

has anyone else read or seen it?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at July 17, 2016 09:34 AM (Cq0oW)

29 A little known fact, Lafayette's grave in Paris is filled with American soil. He visited the US after the American revolution and received a hero's welcome from citizens in all the States.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 17, 2016 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

30 I saw some gimmicky graphic where they had a map of the US and there was a flash every where there was a shooting. Chicago just glowed.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 09:40 AM (iQIUe)

31 A little known fact, Lafayette's grave in Paris is filled with American soil. He visited the US after the American revolution and received a hero's welcome from citizens in all the States.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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And several City/Town names.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 09:40 AM (9mTYi)

32 Heather MacDonald is just an old cracka bitch, so she should be ignored.

Posted by: #Black LIVs Matter! at July 17, 2016 09:43 AM (sdi6R)

33 Did you guys notice that when Newt was interviewed this week to get his reaction to the Nice attack, he managed to pimp two books?

One was Black Widow by Daniel Silva and the other was Gen Flynn's book: Field of Flight

That is one well-read dude. Also a writer.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:43 AM (7lVbc)

34 I'm off to church, as I need to be, but I wish a
good day to all the Horde and will check the book thread later, even
though I have taken a (temporary) vow of abstinence from buying books
based on recommendations here!


Posted by: Hrothgar


If you're reading Ringworld and then Ringworld Engineers, I would also advise you first read "Protector" by Larry Niven.

I hope this ain't too much of a spoiler.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 17, 2016 09:44 AM (Cz05v)

35 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Too much lousy and disappointing crap in the news lately. I'm re-reading the Lumby series by Gail Fraser. These are similar to the Mitford books but I like them better. They are about a small town in the Pacific northwest full of odd characters. The books are pleasant (sometimes I need pleasant), funny and occasionally hilarious, with rather touching moments. My blood pressure drops ten points while reading them.

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 09:44 AM (V+03K)

36
https://goo.gl/AXZDMz

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

37 31 And several City/Town names.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 09:40 AM (9mTYi)

A quick Bing search gives 18, there are probably more.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 17, 2016 09:44 AM (mpXpK)

38 I've just begun reading Summoned by Iddo Tavory. It's about the Jewish Orthodox community in Hollywood / West Los Angeles and how it survives - thrives - surrounded by a totally alien contemporary LA.

A bit heavy on the sociobabble (the author is a sociologist at UCLA) but an enjoyable read about the neighborhood where I grew up. Some Orthodox kids were my childhood friends. And for us Christians, I'm hoping to find some survival strategies we might wish to copy as our situation becomes similar.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 17, 2016 09:45 AM (/WPPJ)

39 Heh, I didn't realize my sock had a double entendre until after I posted.

Posted by: rickl at July 17, 2016 09:46 AM (sdi6R)

40 A little known fact, Lafayette's grave in Paris is
filled with American soil. He visited the US after the American
revolution and received a hero's welcome from citizens in all the
States.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


There is a room at Washington's Mount Vernon home where Lafayette always stayed when he visited. It says so on the plaque outside.





Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 17, 2016 09:46 AM (Cz05v)

41
Your tax dollars at work: NPR had an interview with 2 bimbos. One a Hills voter and the other a former Bernie supporter who will now vote 3rd party. Tho the RNC is upon us, no Trump voters were mentioned.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 09:47 AM (iQIUe)

42 41
Your tax dollars at work: NPR had an interview with 2 bimbos. One a Hills voter and the other a former Bernie supporter who will now vote 3rd party. Tho the RNC is upon us, no Trump voters were mentioned.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 09:47 AM (iQIUe)

Well, they don't know any- so they must not exist.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 09:49 AM (3ZoRf)

43 Finished reading Larry Correia's Monster Hunters International, books 1 and 2.

Fun reading, but starting to fall into a pattern of pulling out some kind of BS trick to solve a problem.

Probably not going to read anymore of the series, but the first book is definitely a fun read.

But it does put you in the frame of mind that some people in the world are really monsters in the way that they think and act. I think that Correia is messing with us. Well, he was messing with me, at least.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 17, 2016 09:50 AM (Cz05v)

44 17 In last week's book thread, there was a solicitation for beta readers for a fellow Moron's new book, A Place Outside the Wild.

If you like post-apocalyptic/zombie fiction, this book is fantastic. Well drawn and disparate characters with multiple converging story lines, good dialogue, well done action scenes. The book has it all. You should definitely check it out.

Not sure if he's still looking for readers, but you could hit him up at:

dhumphreys5252 at gmail dot com


Aww, shucks. Thanks for the plug. And yes, if anyone is interested I will send out more copies.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at July 17, 2016 09:50 AM (VcTnL)

45 I finished The Bridgebusters this week about the Catch-22 bomb wing and I am rereading Catch-22. My appreciation for Catch-22 may be enhanced but not necessarily my enjoyment. The reality behind the jokes is very poignant. In one famous scene, Yossarian, sent to bomb a small village of no strategic or industrial industrial importance, decides to bomb early thereby saving the lives of innocent Italian civilians. Rather than to discipline him, the army awarded him a medal to avoid notoriety regarding bombing an innocent village and an officer's willful disobedience of orders. In reality, Catch-22 author Joseph Heller was ordered to bomb the innocent village of Pont San Martin. Not Heller, but a pilot purposefully dropped his bombs long avoiding the village excusing himself as evading non-existent Flak. Although not award a medal, his willful disobedience was ignored. The rest of the group did bomb the village hitting an elementary school killing forty kids. The village had no industrial or strategic value. The Allies had invaded southern France and were afraid two German armoured divisions might use the road through town to hit them in the flank. They therefore used a technique known as "panicking" which consisted of bombing villages for the purpose of slowing transportation by filling the streets with rubble. It sounds vicious but troops really were getting killed in France and more would have been if that armor had gotten through.

This mission seems to have deeply affected Heller. Although he, another officer, and three enlisted men had so vociferously protested the ever increasing number of missions designated a tour, before this mission he flew about every other day. After this mission he flew about once a week and they were milk runs. In Catch-22, Yossarian rejects an offer to fly only milk runs in exchange for not protesting the number of missions as being unfair to the other men. Did Heller accept such an offer? In Catch-22, Yossarian accepts an offer (before rejecting it) to act as a PR stooge in lieu of flying more missions. Heller was an actor in a publicity training film rather than flying missions. After the PR film was done, Heller was sent back to the States having flown only 60 of the then required 70 missions.

In addition to the Catch-22 connection discussed above, this is a good, gritty book filled with good, gritty war stories. There's a tad too much detail about the ground war for my taste in a book about a bomber wing but YMMV.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 17, 2016 09:50 AM (Nwg0u)

46 OM, Thanks for mentioning 'The Kidnap Plot'. I started reading Heinlein juveniles in second or third grade and still enjoy them once in a while. 'The Rolling Stones' is still fun. Just put The Kidnap Plot of reserve at the library in hopes I will relive that youthful experience.

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 09:50 AM (V+03K)

47 for us Christians, I'm hoping to find some survival strategies we might wish to copy as our situation becomes similar

+++++

Sounds a little bit like the Benedict Option that gets discussed around the net

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 09:51 AM (Cq0oW)

48 last week i mentioned the new york society library. so nice to see another follow up on my input!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 17, 2016 09:52 AM (WTSFk)

49 Wasn't able to get on the computer yesterday, so my Today in History post will be late. Any guesses on the topic?

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:52 AM (7lVbc)

50 Damn autocucumber! The technique is "roadblocking", not panicking.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 17, 2016 09:53 AM (Nwg0u)

51 G'morning, all you hoity-toity types.

I'm on vacation this week, so I'm loading up on what sound like fun books to read. I found a good deal on Larry Correia's Monster Hunter books, so I bought volumes 2 through 5. I read the first one last year and loved it.

I've also added the book "Cannibal Gold" by Chuck Dixon to my stack. Dixon wrote the Batman comics for DC in the 1990s and 2000s, and is an unashamed conservative.
The book is about a quartet of former Army Rangers called in to save a team of scientists stuck 10,000 years in the past. It sounds like a fun vacation read.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 17, 2016 09:53 AM (rJUlF)

52 38 I've just begun reading Summoned by Iddo Tavory. It's about the Jewish Orthodox community in Hollywood / West Los Angeles and how it survives - thrives - surrounded by a totally alien contemporary LA.

A bit heavy on the sociobabble (the author is a sociologist at UCLA) but an enjoyable read about the neighborhood where I grew up. Some Orthodox kids were my childhood friends. And for us Christians, I'm hoping to find some survival strategies we might wish to copy as our situation becomes similar.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 17, 2016 09:45 AM (/WPPJ)

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In the early 90s, I would drive on Beverly on my way to WLA. It was like driving thru 1930s Poland. Obviously, no worse than Brooklyn but it was amusing to me.

Around that time there was a brouhaha over a cafe that had some nude art hanging on the walls that the orthodox community objected to. Finally, they just moved the art to the back of the cafe where it couldnt be seen. I'm sure little orthodox boy's hearts were broken.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 09:54 AM (iQIUe)

53 Aww, shucks. Thanks for the plug. And yes, if anyone is interested I will send out more copies.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at July 17, 2016 09:50 AM (VcTnL)

I was thinking about it but I have a big pile of books to review.

But if you are desperate you can email me a copy and I will do my best to do a quick & dirty feedback. It's votermom at gmail

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:54 AM (7lVbc)

54 ... credit is appreciated but not mandatory!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 17, 2016 09:55 AM (WTSFk)

55 I've been watching SouthLAnd on Hulu the last couple of weeks. I've really been enjoying it. It demonstrates nicely that the police are human, and in big cities they see on a daily basis some of the worst humanity has to offer--child abuse, murder, sexual assault, drug-induced depravity. It takes a toll on the soul.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 09:55 AM (Kc884)

56 Probably not going to read anymore of the series, but the first book is definitely a fun read.

Third one is worth reading. I definitely liked it better than the second. Minor spoiler: Earl Harbinger is the protagonist and pretty much on his own throughout the book - the rest of MHI doesn't show up at all.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 17, 2016 09:58 AM (bZ7mE)

57 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"

Murphy Brown

Posted by: Random Lurker at July 17, 2016 09:59 AM (+tRIN)

58 Oh, and a I read a book, too. I guess that should go on the book thread before a TV show.

Just finished The Waking Fire by Anthony Ryan, the first book of a new fantasy series. I was hesitant--he wrote a trilogy that was ultimately disappointing. The first book, Blood Song, was amazing. The second one was pretty good. The third one was unfortunate in that it threw away all the promise of the beginning. Anyway, this new one was pretty good.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:02 AM (Kc884)

59 I had a book event yesterday - an indy-author event with about forty other writers, but actual shoppers for books were thin on the ground. (This event is only on it's second year, so word hasn't gotten out, in spite of heroic publicity efforts on the part of the organizer)

No loss, except of my time - and I was able to finish John Biggins' The Two Headed Eagle - an Otto Prohaska adventure, wherein the hero takes a break from submarine duty as an aerial observer in the Austrian military's flying corps ... on the Italian front. Very well written, and detailed, with a fair amount of wry and dark humor; such as when our hero remarks to the effect that night precision bombing from an aircraft meant being able to hit the right country.

The interesting (yet disheartening) subtext of the Prohaska books is an explanation of how the Austro-Hungarian empire fell apart; ethnic and nationalist divisions, bureaucratic sclerosis, and decades of mismanagement.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 17, 2016 10:03 AM (xnmPy)

60 America's premier monument to knowledge, the Smithsonian Institution, portrays science as white man's religion liberal's fetish.



Fixed for accuracy.


Good morning, y'all.



Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 10:04 AM (GUBah)

61 Fwiw, I don't agree with the Benedict Option, the idea of Christians forming enclosed communities.

Unlike jews, Christians are a converting religion, the invitation being to leave behind the tribe to which one previously belongs and to adopt a new way of being.

The emulation then ought not to be Benedict and withdrawal but of the great missionaries, such as Patrick etc. To consecrate the modern equivalent of the pagan shrines, subvert the equivalent of pagan holidays, and bring multitudes to the light. That would take an aggressive stance that I think no Christian Church is capable of currently though. At least not any Western one.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:04 AM (Cq0oW)

62 I'm planning on beginning to review each of the books I've rated on Goodreads (all 1400+ of them), depending on how busy work is today.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:06 AM (Kc884)

63 Bureau of Technology Control?

Sounds a bit like like the Amalgamated Regional Militias married to the Spanish Inquisition for Technology.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:06 AM (P6IAq)

64 That is one well-read dude. Also a writer.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 09:43 AM (7lVbc)


Every time a new conservative or Republican appears on the public radar, the howler monkeys on the left immediately start screaming that he's dumb, despite any evidence to the contrary: Reagan is dumb. Bush is dumb. Palin is dumb. Cruz is dumb. Trump is dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

They never said that about Newt, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 10:07 AM (tEhtH)

65 Wasn't able to get on the computer yesterday, so my Today in History post will be late. Any guesses on the topic?

Posted by: @votermom

Aww, you remembered my birthday!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:08 AM (Kc884)

66 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"



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Hmm...Could it be...SATAN!?

Posted by: Church Lady at July 17, 2016 10:09 AM (Kc884)

67 Although Mrs. JTB and I haven't watched the Democrat conventions for years (we're older and have more delicate stomachs these days) we are skipping all political coverage of the conventions this time. Frankly, we get better and more timely information from the threads here. Even if there are protests, I saw enough of them in 1968. I regard this as more time for reading.

I'm putting together a list of reading during the conventions. So far I've got the current and some older issues of Backwoodsman magazine, the essays of Montaigne and my leather bound copy of the John Carter of Mars books.

Anyone else taking this approach?

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 10:09 AM (V+03K)

68 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"



Murphy Brown



Posted by: Random Lurker at July 17, 2016 09:59 AM
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That's the first thing that popped into my head too.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 17, 2016 10:09 AM (Lsu4e)

69 who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised? I don't know, but I have an idea: rich, liberal white women, who can afford to be stupid.

I think the unofficial motto of Democrats is, "Please, Government, save us from the bad personal choices we made, or else!"

Posted by: V the K at July 17, 2016 10:11 AM (O7MnT)

70 YGM, votermom.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at July 17, 2016 10:12 AM (VcTnL)

71 I think the unofficial motto of Democrats is, "Please, Government, save us from the bad personal choices we made, or else!"

Posted by: V the K

Hey, don't blame us! We tried to get that to be the official motto.

Posted by: Bernie Supporters at July 17, 2016 10:12 AM (Kc884)

72 Was Ted Kennedy ever sober? I mean were there any periods of time he was on the wagon? Can you believe Joan is still alive? I remember photos of her face down in the street she was so drunk.

The Kennedys are a scourge on this country. I read the Kennedys by Peter Collier and David Horowitz decades ago when I was still a fan. We were taught that Rose Kennedy was the best mother ever. In the book they talked about her going to Paris for the fashion shows 14 times in 2 years without the kids. This was back when ocean travel took a week. So when was she home? Then there were the Kennedy kids pan handling and hanging out and doing drugs with an older family friend who was gay. I was living in NYC when David was mugged in a shooting gallery and called the cops to report his wallet stolen. lol He was admitted to a hospital where my friend worked as a nurse and she said he was a real asshole. In his defense, he was probably detoxing or maybe not. His doctors probably gave him drugs or his brothers brought it in for him.

Even John Jr was a phony. I read The Dark Side of Camelot by Seymour M. Hersh. Jackie ran interference for her kid all her life. He was constantly getting favoritism at school and even while taking the bar exam. He got hired as a DA at Cape Cod which he wd never had gotten but for the fact he was a Kennedy.

And then there is Skakel. I assume he is out on bail waiting for his new trial for murdering that girl.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:13 AM (iQIUe)

73 62 I'm planning on beginning to review each of the books I've rated on Goodreads (all 1400+ of them), depending on how busy work is today.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:06 AM (Kc884)

Good luck!!!

I would not be able to remember tbh. You must have an impressive memory.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 10:13 AM (7lVbc)

74 his lab is locked down by a shadowy organization whose mission is to prevent at all costs the social upheaval sudden technological advances bring.

I once wrote a similar novel, "Church and State," about a shadowy, Bilderberger type organization whose mission was to find and assassinate Messiahs before they could cause social upheaval through starting new religions.

Posted by: V the K at July 17, 2016 10:13 AM (O7MnT)

75 Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:04 AM (Cq0oW)

I agree, and very well-spoken. The so-called "Benedict" option is a bad idea and very much runs against the grain of "go forth and preach to all nations" DNA that Christianity has had from the very beginning. I never did much care for Rod Dreher who is promulgating it, and it does nothing to ameliorate my already-low opinion of him.

Like you, I prefer the "St. Patrick" option as being much more fitting for Christians.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 10:13 AM (tEhtH)

76 Finished Old Sailors Poet (aka Jack July) book Amy Lynn. Very excellent book, kind like a plebian female Mitch Rapp. He did a good job fleshing out the characters' including the dog. Well get the next two books.

Posted by: drunkineastmesa at July 17, 2016 10:14 AM (A8aR5)

77 Happy Birthday Turd Ferguson!

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 10:14 AM (7lVbc)

78 *waves to All Hail Eris*

If the Navy AAR about Iran kidnapping our riverine boats is any indication, no you don't need to be a Hapsburg admiral to be Solorian Battle Fleet officer material.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:14 AM (P6IAq)

79 61, Bigby - I generally agree. But the St. Patrick approach also requires a certain cohesion and cultural strength that contemporary Christianity no longer possesses. Like the Jewish Orthodox, the Eastern Christians, and the Amish. Which are all growing, by the way.

Oh, and have kids. Lots of 'em. And have them remain in your faith and its culture.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 17, 2016 10:15 AM (/WPPJ)

80 Like you, I prefer the "St. Patrick" option as being much more fitting for Christians.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 10:13 AM (tEhtH)

Snakes! Why does it always have to be snakes?

Posted by: Patrickiana Jones at July 17, 2016 10:15 AM (7lVbc)

81 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Re: "Camelot" https://youtu.be/1Npo0cmp-VY

Posted by: Bernie Supporters at July 17, 2016 10:15 AM (Kc884)

82 Dangit, Bernie Bros, you stole my video!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:15 AM (Kc884)

83 Go read Voter Mom's interview with Matt. And perhaps offer suggestions for science fiction books for Matt to read besides The Martian.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:16 AM (P6IAq)

84 Happy Birthday Turd Ferguson!

Posted by: @votermom

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:17 AM (Kc884)

85 You must have an impressive memory.

Posted by: @votermom

I've only rated the books I can remember anything about.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 17, 2016 10:19 AM (Kc884)

86 It was like driving thru 1930s Poland.

1920s Poland, one hopes. Pilsudski's colonels in the 1930s were no friends to da Joos.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2016 10:21 AM (6FqZa)

87 29 A little known fact, Lafayette's grave in Paris is filled with American soil. He visited the US after the American revolution and received a hero's welcome from citizens in all the States.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 17, 2016 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

The one place I missed when I visited Paris a few years ago. In a related historical tidbit, the grave of Thaddeus Kosciuszko, hero of the American Revolution & Poland, is filled with the earth of all the battlefields in which he fought.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2016 10:21 AM (7qAYi)

88 I'm putting together a list of reading during the conventions. So far I've got the current and some older issues of Backwoodsman magazine, the essays of Montaigne and my leather bound copy of the John Carter of Mars books.

Anyone else taking this approach?
Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 10:09 AM (V+03K)
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This is a grand idea. And I approve of your selections. Now I need to formulate my own reading plan. As we all should.

Bander, I've compiled a reading list for you!

*Busty Lesbians (Hind)Quarterly
*The Works of Catullus
*Fly Fishing in Peruvia

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 17, 2016 10:23 AM (jR7Wy)

89 Great thumping of the BLM bullshit, Mr. Muse. I too am a fan of Heather MacDonald's stuff, though I haven't read her books. I don't agree with her 100%, but most times I don't agree with me 100%.

I'm about 3/4 through Friday by the esteemed RAH. Written in 1982, he seems to have soured on group marriages a bit, as promulgated in Stranger In A Strange Land (1961).

It's about a female artificial person, aka a selected gene construct. The US is kaput and there are no shining cities on the hills. Not his best work imho, but it was nominated for all the usual awards.

2.5 to 3 stars.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 17, 2016 10:24 AM (gyKtp)

90 @# 51, Capt. Whitebread:

Chuck Dixon also has an ongoing series, starting with Levon's Trade, about a retired Marine. Excellent hard-boiled mystery stuff, if you like that sort of thing (I do).

Posted by: L. W. Badger at July 17, 2016 10:25 AM (9anvi)

91 That's just the thing

Christianity didn't have the cohesion at the time it converted pagan lands. Sure it had a strong papacy and it's backing but in those lands it did not.

What those lands had that we no longer do is a monarchy that could be converted and could order the land to follow suit.

I suppose the early American missionaries are another model more suitable.

Regardless, I agree it won't come from Western churches. You might see it emerging from the African ones.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:26 AM (Cq0oW)

92 Captain Whitebread I hope Cannibal Gold turns out to be an enjoyable read. And enjoy the vacation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:27 AM (P6IAq)

93 For WWII buffs:

Here's a great and little known (now) WWII book.

Father Cyclone, by Daisy Armoury.

Very inspirational true story of a Catholic Chaplain in the Pacific Theater.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 17, 2016 10:28 AM (3myMJ)

94 ... oops, never mind...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 17, 2016 10:29 AM (WTSFk)

95 For those who are enjoying the resurgence in popularity of coloring books, here is one to keep you very occupied during the convention: try to color sixty-three Thomas Kinkade works.

https://www.amazon.com/Posh-Adult-Coloring-Book-Inspiration/dp/1449478875

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:32 AM (P6IAq)

96
France: The Coming Civil War

http://goo.gl/OL5T4R


Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:32 AM (iQIUe)

97 Reading "Japanese Lover" by Allende and "Clever Girl" about a 1930s American woman who was a bigtime Soviet Spy back in the day. I'm meh on both of them unless they improve and grab me.

Tore through "The Girls" on vacation and that was incredibly creepy. The narrator has a spooky, amoral perspective on 1960s California, and a Manson-like cult she gets involved with. I liked how it focused on the totally fucked up way teenage girls and women deal with each other. As a female, I recognize this, women have no right to claim any moral high ground vs. men in any respect, both can be equally awful and without conscience.

Posted by: Goldilocks at July 17, 2016 10:34 AM (pOgVG)

98 Always a civil war coming somewhere.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:35 AM (Cq0oW)

99 I'd say that for La France...the war is there. It was 'coming' a decade ago....

Posted by: goatexchange at July 17, 2016 10:38 AM (Nd4YY)

100 Random thought

Is this constant drumbeat of civil wars that aren't the same as how on the left they talk about the moral equivalent of war in regards to the war on poverty etc?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:39 AM (Cq0oW)

101 I'd say that for La France...the war is there. It was 'coming' a decade ago....


Posted by: goatexchangeLa petite mort...

Posted by: French! at July 17, 2016 10:39 AM (Kc884)

102 copy/paste fail. Should have read

La petite mort

Posted by: French! at July 17, 2016 10:40 AM (Kc884)

103 Or it could be argued the civil war between the natives of Europe versus Islam Round Two started when West Germany imported Turks for labor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:40 AM (P6IAq)

104
There's a possible coup going on in Armenia.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:40 AM (iQIUe)

105 There isn't just a war against cops there is a war against the American people by the elites of both parties.

Wait until "criminal justice reform" goes through the streets are going to be flooded with criminals afflicting cops and the people.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 17, 2016 10:41 AM (cdo9e)

106 91, Bigby - Africa, Korea, China, maybe? First off, I don't think the Benedict Option is workable at all. But in order for the St. Patrick strategy to work, you first have to be cohesive and strong. You also need to be seen by the outside world as "doing something right" in the way you live your life.

Anyway, Summoned is a good read that takes me back to the Farmer's Market, the Gilmore Theater, and Canter's deli.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 17, 2016 10:41 AM (/WPPJ)

107 Listened to Democracy in America in an 1890's translation with translator/editor notes.

I never knew that the first battles of the Civil War were fought in the early 1830s. That was eye-opening given our current situation. It was also interesting how De Tocqueville posited (correctly) that China was run by a bureaucracy because it was clear that the goal of those in charge was that nothing ever change, which is also important in current circumstances (as well as a good reminder of just how closed China really was at the time. He *had* to guess because no one knew for sure).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 10:44 AM (GDulk)

108 goatexchange, the article says it started 16 years ago when a group of French citizens started attacking another group of French citizens. Group A were the Muslims and Group B were the Jews. The indigenous French people didn't see it at the time because they didn't care about either, and besides it's not like either of them were ever going to start attacking French people.

Guess they were wrong. Maybe someone should have read more books.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2016 10:45 AM (6FqZa)

109 26 ... Thanks for mentioning the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. Have to dig out my copy. It's been a while and should certainly be timely.

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 10:45 AM (V+03K)

110 101 I'd say that for La France...the war is there. It was 'coming' a decade ago....

La petite mort

Posted by: French! at July 17, 2016 10:40 AM (Kc884)


Heh. That's not what that means!

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 10:46 AM (tEhtH)

111 Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:39 AM (Cq0oW)

I read your comment three times and don't understand it at all, although it may be that I'm just low on coffee.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 10:46 AM (GDulk)

112 Fake black activist Shaun King says there should be a coup if Trump gets elected.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2016 10:46 AM (7qAYi)

113 Ok , my Today in History is up!
Hint: the year is 1945

Link in nic for the answer

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 10:49 AM (7lVbc)

114 112 Fake black activist Shaun King says there should be a coup if Trump gets elected.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2016 10:46 AM (7qAYi)


That's good to hear. Maybe he'll start one and get his ass shot off.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 10:51 AM (tEhtH)

115 Bossy Conservative, I was irritated at the Deus Ex Machina ending to Monster Hunter International, but on reflection I figured that, since the whole McGuffin WAS the machine that the gods come out of, I figured it was appropriate.

MHI - Vendetta is just a well tuned adventure story, with so many delightful moments like discovering that the zombie master was buying materials on ebay

I'm gnawing away at MHI - Alpha, but I have three other books going right now so it is taking a back seat.

The MHI books do feel formulaic, but I think that is because Correia tends to take common monster movie tropes, sticks his fist down their throats and yanks them inside out.
He also knows his guns. So I get to chant "we're not worthy" at him like a proper fanboy.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2016 10:52 AM (ry34m)

116 That was one of the saddest days in English history, how the British populace tossed Churchill so quickly upon the rubbish heap leaving Attlee and his party to reap all the benefits as it were.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:53 AM (P6IAq)

117 Polliwog

Wrote it quickly, sorry.

To unpack a bit: there is a current within the left American society in general to use the term war applied in circumstances that aren't wars, like the war on poverty or drugs.

It mobilizes those who adhere to the aims, naturally, but it's also a kind of attitude that they have, that everything must be addressed by this moral equivalent of war. My view is that an equivalent is not a war.

So what I'm asking is, on the right we seem to find the equivalent of civil war everywhere now. Is that right?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 10:54 AM (Cq0oW)

118 68 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"



Murphy Brown



Posted by: Random Lurker at July 17, 2016 09:59 AM
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That's the first thing that popped into my head too.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 17, 2016 10:09 AM (Lsu4e

I think the finger can be pointed to Nana the moon goddess (demon spirit), Ishtar the babylonian fertility goddess (demon spirit), and now the plague levels of Jezebel spirits pulling the strings.

It is not flesh and blood which we do battle. And once a person decides to learn and fight these things they better be ready for a full overt attack and not have any cracks in their Christian Spiritual Armor.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 17, 2016 10:57 AM (2Y1kI)

119 3 cops shot in Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:57 AM (iQIUe)

120 Active shooter...

Morons shelter in place!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:57 AM (iQIUe)

121 Oh well I need to scoot to attend things.

Because I lost the USB drive with the Alexandria story plus other stories, lost a day of writing searching for it. Thank goodness I write in Scrivener and that nifty software keeps on the local hard drive multiple compressed back-ups of projects. So I've picked up the Alexandria story right where I left it before the USB drive loss.

Alas losing a day of writing, means I need to crank out about 3,000 words today to get back on track to finish 50,000 words by end of month. Challenges are always fun right?

Golden Isis is still for sale
Kindle - http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO
Paperback - https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Isis-Anastasia-Atelier/dp/1517098351

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:59 AM (P6IAq)

122 116 That was one of the saddest days in English history, how the British populace tossed Churchill so quickly upon the rubbish heap leaving Attlee and his party to reap all the benefits as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:53 AM (P6IAq)

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And that's why when you win PB you shd buy his house and hire me to live there:

http://goo.gl/0fBPcz

It's YUGE. Lots of out buildings and a YUGE pond and gardens. I like photo 3 and I like the kitchen.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:01 AM (iQIUe)

123 116 That was one of the saddest days in English history, how the British populace tossed Churchill so quickly upon the rubbish heap leaving Attlee and his party to reap all the benefits as it were.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 10:53 AM (P6IAq)

Yes it was.
Labour did a good job of separating Churchill from his party so voters could say to themselves "I like Winnie but I want free sh*t"

Anna, you could back up your work to Dropbox or some other free cloud service.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 11:02 AM (7lVbc)

124 119 3 cops shot in Baton Rouge.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:57 AM (iQIUe)


Just saw this at Breitbart.

WAR.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2016 11:02 AM (27m1/)

125 3 cops shot in Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 10:57 AM (iQIUe)


Scanner feed:

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/23047

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 11:03 AM (GUBah)

126 97 Reading "Japanese Lover" by Allende and "Clever Girl" about a 1930s American woman who was a bigtime Soviet Spy back in the day. I'm meh on both of them unless they improve and grab me.

Posted by: Goldilocks at July 17, 2016 10:34 AM (pOgVG)


That American woman was Elizabeth Bentley and she blew the lid off of 3 major Soviet spy rings operating in the federal government. And her testimony corroborated everything Whitaker Chambers said earlier.

I have that book on my stack. Sorry to hear that it's "meh." I read a few pages of it and it looks to me like the author is not so much interested in what Bentley did for her country but her psychological state of mind and her inner struggles.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:04 AM (tEhtH)

127
Shit! This shooting was by police HQ and they fear 3 dead. Sounds like another sniper situation.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:04 AM (iQIUe)

128 Voter Mom, Dropbox and Google cloud are control issues.

As in I would no longer have complete control over my own writings.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:04 AM (P6IAq)

129 Baton rouge:

A witness reported a man dressed in black with his face covered started shooting indiscriminately near a convenience store.

WAFB-TV reported (3) officers were shot along Airline Highway near Old Hammond Highway.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 17, 2016 11:05 AM (3myMJ)

130 112 Fake black activist Shaun King says there should be a coup if Trump gets elected.
Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2016 10:46 AM (7qAYi)

Those people are dangerous because they are amatuers posing as hard core veterans of war and strife.

In real speak he just called for all non totalitarians to be purged in genocide. Let's not kid ourselves.

2016 is the year our Creator is revealing true evil for everybody to see one last time.

I pray people in this country and the world open their eyes and snap out of it

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 17, 2016 11:05 AM (2Y1kI)

131 O-bloody strikes again.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 17, 2016 11:06 AM (3myMJ)

132 A witness reported a man dressed in black with his face covered started shooting indiscriminately near a convenience store.

--

shouldn't that be "dressed in clothes of color" ?

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 11:07 AM (7lVbc)

133 57 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"

Murphy Brown

Posted by: Random Lurker at July 17, 2016 09:59 AM (+tRIN)


Exactly. A rich, liberal white woman.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:07 AM (tEhtH)

134 Fake black activist Shaun King says there should be a coup if Trump gets elected.
Posted by: josephistan

*ssholes like King have taken over. Trump *is* the coup.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 11:07 AM (gF+Qw)

135 Yeh, we might want a separate thread for the Police shootings.

All three feared dead


http://tinyurl.com/jqk5rsm

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 17, 2016 11:08 AM (ptqRm)

136 *dons tinfoil hat*


BLM loses MSM visibility in wake of Nice and Turkey. RNC starts tomorrow. Convenient timing.


*doffs tinfoil hat*

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 11:09 AM (GUBah)

137 You know, before picking the Potsdam conference for my topic, I was looking at historic events for today and I almost picked a general "July 17 - a bloody day throughout history" because there are a lot of people who died on July 17 in violence and in accidents (like the great train disaster in PA)

Sad that there's a police shooting going on today.

I think it's a bad date in general.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 11:11 AM (7lVbc)

138 OM, The book you recommended on the chess thread yesterday, 'The Immortal Game' sounds interesting. I have a library copy coming tomorrow or Tuesday. The Amazon reviews are very positive. And I've developed an interest in the history and cultural aspects of chess. I'll let folks know what I think about it next thread.

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 11:11 AM (V+03K)

139 >>>Progressives are always proclaiming their great concern for the poor, but all of their end up hurting the poor.


At that point, it's kind of like karma. If people are narcissistic and self pitying enough to believe lies that blame other people for their shortcomings, they deserve what they get, and in any case are not psychologically in a position to better themselves.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 11:12 AM (gF+Qw)

140
Muzzies join with BLM and when BLM complains that their message doesn't get top billing, they get their heads chopped off.

Now that would be comedy gold.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2016 11:13 AM (27m1/)

141 Yes, sadly, it is war. J. J. Sefton. And the world outside our borders is unraveling too.

Obama, wrecker of the world.

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2016 11:13 AM (cHuNI)

142 What a mostly peaceful week or two it has been!

Posted by: Damiano at July 17, 2016 11:15 AM (71OEY)

143 Progressives are always proclaiming their great concern for the poor, but all of their end up hurting the poor.

--

Democrats love the poor. That's why they're always making more of them.

also

Democrats love babies. In bits and pieces.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 11:16 AM (7lVbc)

144 That American woman was Elizabeth Bentley and she blew the lid off of 3 major Soviet spy rings operating in the federal government. And her testimony corroborated everything Whitaker Chambers said earlier.

I have that book on my stack. Sorry to hear that it's "meh." I read a few pages of it and it looks to me like the author is not so much interested in what Bentley did for her country but her psychological state of mind and her inner struggles.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:04 AM (tEhtH)
==============

They love to slam Bentley but the bottomline is that she told the truth when she came clean. I read her own bio years ago and then another one the name, I cant remember.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:18 AM (iQIUe)

145 Finished Influence - The Psychology of Persuasion, one of the books from Scott Adams' Persuasion Reading List.

Very worthwhile book. I think it has changed my perceptions. I expected to learn about a bunch of hidden techniques by which persuasion jerks on our hidden chains. Instead it turned out that all of the techniques discussed fall into the "so obvious you've never really thought much about it" category. It is very eye-opening to start really being aware of how automatic some of our social responses are, and how those responses can be manipulated.

Robert B. Cialdini, the author, implies that he became interested in the topic in part because he noticed that he falls easily for all of these things, and therefore required extra understanding to fend them off. So as a kind of bonus at the end of each chapter describing a human behavior principle that can be manipulated, he talks about how to recognize that it is happening to you, and how to resist.

Interestingly, he has a pretty good argument that the Watergate breakin came about precisely because of Liddy's use of one of these persuasion techniques. Not provable, of course, but interesting.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2016 11:21 AM (iMxBJ)

146 Baton Rouge was the site of one of the controversial shootings, but also just yesterday the lefty sites were whining about how rough the Baton Rouge PD was with the BLM protesters. They arrested that commie creep Deray and kept the BLMs from blocking the highway and injuring police. Guess what--suppressing rioters can get rough sometimes.

So I think the Baton Rouge cops were doubly in the bulls-eye of the cop killer movement.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 17, 2016 11:21 AM (ozZau)

147 Hey, fellow cubicle dwellers! When I'm hard at work at my surrealistically inane bureaucratic job, and I'm nodding off over stacks of partialy filled out forms, I need a pick me up! And when I need a pick me up, I just slip in a K-cup! That's right, K as Kafka. Delivers a shot of caffeine, to grease the cogs of the bureaucratic machine.

Posted by: Joseph K at July 17, 2016 11:23 AM (gF+Qw)

148 You cannot mention #blackliesmatter or Chicago without mentioning the book White Girl Bleed Alot by Colin Flaherty, concerning the active media coverup of black racial violence. Good read, factual, well footnoted, but depressing.

The raw video evidence keeps being removed from you tube or other places, so most of the scan-code links in his book won't work. Fortunately Colin has most of those links available on his website.

Amazon book link: http://preview.tinyurl.com/jfe88a9

Colin's book site: http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

He also has a new book entitled Don't Make the Black Kids Angry which is sure to piss off the race hustlers again, as well as once again shockingly reveal the depths of black dysfunction and the shoulder shrugging coverup. I haven't read it yet.

Posted by: Jimsonweed Sandwich with Urushiol Sauce at July 17, 2016 11:25 AM (iU9Qe)

149 I'll have a books read post next week.

We are leaving Wichita after seeing the B-29 "Doc" take off and land safely.

A great crowd gave a lowd cheer as it thundered overhead. And BZ to the ground mechanics and the restorers, for a beautiful shining aircraft, after 16 years of restoration work.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2016 11:25 AM (kQfuz)

150 Update: Call went out for man w/ "assault weapon", officers responded, gunfight ensued, 3 cops dead, 4 wounded, EOD called to Fitness Expo on Airport Road.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 11:27 AM (GUBah)

151 Good morning.

Yesterday I discovered that by using the link, https://kindle.amazon.com/your_highlights, you can view all the notes you've made on any of your Amazon books. Very cool. You can edit them all in one place, too! I have found an app that allows you to upload all notes to word processor, but because you have to pay for it, I'm still searching for a good way to do that.

I'm reading Sir Walter Scott's "The Talisman," and it's surprisingly good. I am not a reader of Scott, having slogged through "Ivanhoe" a few years ago and just didn't enjoy it at all. Talisman is a Crusades book, with a Romantic view of the Saracens.

It's strange, in our day, to read lines like this, written perfectly straight: "'The word of a follower of the Prophet was never broken,' answered the Emir." Scott was not familiar with taqiyya, I think. For us today, it's almost axiomatic that when a follower of Muhammad says, "Peace, peace," he is secretly plotting, or at least wishing for, war and death upon the unbelievers.

Anyway, Scott was venerated for good reason in his era, because his storytelling is so compelling.

AND DID YOU KNOW that Richard Lion-heart determined to be absolutely terrifying to the Muslim Saracens? Richard (apparently) captured a bunch of the enemies, then held a banquet for Saladin's ambassadors. His servants brought out the cooked heads of Saladin's noblemen, and proceeded to eat one of the heads in front of them. Richard told them that it was okay with him if Saladin cut off the Crusaders' supply lines, because his men could just eat any Saracens they caught, and one plump enemy could feed a good half-dozen of his knights for a day or so.

Quite a way to send a message. In this way, Richard sent the Mussulmen the same message that Vlad the Impaler sent, when he brutally killed the Islamic invaders of Hungary fitted by creating a forest of the enemies impaled on spikes. "Don't mess with us."

Richard ended up getting pretty good press, and Vlad ended up being the prototype for Dracula. Both were cruel psychos, but they both also helped stem the tide of Islam in their day.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at July 17, 2016 11:30 AM (yjhOG)

152 CNN reporting 8 officers down.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 11:30 AM (GUBah)

153 Salty Dog, do you think they polished "Doc" enough???

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z6qbn5q

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:32 AM (P6IAq)

154 Eating muzzies' heads would be a good way to contract kuru.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2016 11:33 AM (GSdpU)

155 >>>Robert B. Cialdini, the author, implies that he became interested in the topic in part because he noticed that he falls easily for all of these things, and therefore required extra understanding to fend them off.

When I speak to sales staff, in person, it's like I'm a different person. I'm an idiot who can't say no. Moral of the story: do as much of your shopping ON LINE.

Posted by: Joseph K at July 17, 2016 11:33 AM (gF+Qw)

156 Well, hello and salutations, Mr. Smallish Bees, I haven't seen you in a while, how're things?

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:33 AM (tEhtH)

157 "...when Ahmed Shah Massoud was assassinated (an event most Americans didn't
even notice), some analysts realized that bin Laden was appeasing the
Taliban and something big was about to happen."

Randy Weaver's Revenge, one of the weirdest touches of that day was that a local congressman, Rohrbacher, who was known as a surfer and a somewhat goofy, unimportant guy, was tight with the Northern Alliance and he knew immediately when Massoud was killed that something was going to happen. He then tried to alert the WH and various other entities, to no avail. I guess they just didn't take him seriously.

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2016 11:34 AM (cHuNI)

158 "who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?"

Perhaps liberal politicians who realize they can garner millions of votes from single mothers and a variety of virtue signalers such as the rich, white liberal women mentioned here.

It's a no-brainer, really. You can hail single mothers as a group of paragons of courage amid societal oppression and be hailed for your compassion by the media, pop culture dingbats, and virtue signaling skulls of mush. Or you can speak some uncomfortable truths about poor choices and be demonized and demagogued as a horrible human being.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 11:34 AM (U3LtS)

159 Bander, I've compiled a reading list for you!


Posted by: All Hail Eris



Oh! Aren't you sweet?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2016 11:34 AM (1xUj/)

160
His face was covered but was he wearing gloves? How could 8 officers be shot????

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:34 AM (iQIUe)

161 4 Baton Rouge PD shot. 2 dead. 3rd may die. Police suspect 2 shooters

Posted by: chad at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (NAb7H)

162 more cops getting killed. i blame obama.

Posted by: willy at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (TaHM4)

163 His servants brought out the cooked heads of Saladin's noblemen, and proceeded to eat one of the heads in front of them

----

So you're saying we need to send Ozzy to negotiate with the muzz?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (Cq0oW)

164
Time to do a Day of Rage on BLM.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (iQIUe)

165 Randy Weaver's Revenge, one of the weirdest touches of that day was that a local congressman, Rohrbacher, who was known as a surfer and a somewhat goofy, unimportant guy, was tight with the Northern Alliance and he knew immediately when Massoud was killed that something was going to happen. He then tried to alert the WH and various other entities, to no avail. I guess they just didn't take him seriously.

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2016 11:34 AM (cHuNI)


Was that Dana Rohrbacher? I remember him. I thought he was one of the good guys.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:36 AM (tEhtH)

166 Yup, Dana R. He was one of the good guys! He knew what the hell was going on, but the media treated him as an idiot.

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2016 11:37 AM (cHuNI)

167 the Smithsonian Institution, portrays science as white man's religion.

And they're right. It is today. Science, combined with emotionally driven leftist ideology. Science has replaced the Bible, with the same glassy-eyed obedience and faith, and the same basic ignorance in most of its adherents.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:38 AM (39g3+)

168 Well, at least killing cops is now national news and not just a "local crime story".

Posted by: Damiano at July 17, 2016 11:38 AM (71OEY)

169 Heard on the news that after this celebs murder in Pakistan there is a national debate on honor killings. Why is there even a debate. If they cant realize how immoral it is, can they realize it is against the law? I am sure the punishment is a slap on the hand, tho. Jordan was one of the few that criminalized it but the sentence was like 9 months.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:38 AM (iQIUe)

170 149 I'll have a books read post next week.

We are leaving Wichita after seeing the B-29 "Doc" take off and land safely.

A great crowd gave a lowd cheer as it thundered overhead. And BZ to the ground mechanics and the restorers, for a beautiful shining aircraft, after 16 years of restoration work.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2016 11:25 AM (kQfuz)



We will be needing photos of that event!

Pics, links to news stories, links to the restorer's website, and more photos. Video, too!

There is no satiating one's warbird lust to see these magnificent beasts alive and in the air.

I'm blessed to live near the Lone Star Museum of Flight, at Scholes Field, in Galveston. So, I get to see a good bit of vintage iron flying by, somewhat regularly.

And I always stop in my tracks and watch them, when they do. How could I not?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2016 11:39 AM (v5iqM)

171 Salty Dog, do you think they polished "Doc" enough???

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z6qbn5q

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:32 AM (P6IAq)


I am wondering, when they restore those old warbirds, do they use modern materials, where appropriate. I'm thinking wire harnesses, fluid lines, and such. There are better and safer materials available now.


And I suppose they must have some modern avionics on board. I mean, you couldn't even talk to the tower with a WWII-era radio.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2016 11:39 AM (GSdpU)

172 >>>Superintendents whose employment included the perk of living in an apartment on the library premesis, in an apartment off to one side.


I say good riddance. Sounds like another big city sinecure, like the supervisors of postage stamp parks making 6 figures.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 11:40 AM (gF+Qw)

173 I read Ivanhoe in high school, then tried it again recently and found the very old fashioned style so dense I put it aside. Maybe another time I'll pick it up again.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:40 AM (39g3+)

174 162 more cops getting killed. i blame obama.

Posted by: willy at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (TaHM4)

Yeah. I have been trying to come up with a cogent and well thought out comment to make on this. I am having issues.

Dems (Obama in particular) seem to think that the best thing to do with this is to "Condemn violence" while at the same fucking time as you are having a funeral for 5 policemen who were brutally shot down talk about righteous anger directed at police.

They want to harness the energy and passion that BLM is sparking right now, but they are playing with societal destroying fire. Fucking morons.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 11:40 AM (3ZoRf)

175 26 ... Thanks for mentioning the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. Have to dig out my copy. It's been a while and should certainly be timely.
Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 10:45 AM (V+03K)

Yup...a good read. I remember how he meditated on how not to sexually abuse one's servants as an orgasm was just a simple bodily spasm better left alone. Maybe Billy Jeff needs to get a copy.

I loaned my copy to a friend who never returned it many moons ago.

Looks like BM without the L strikes again in Louisiana....



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2016 11:41 AM (ej1L0)

176 Posted by: Smallish Bees at July 17, 2016 11:30 AM (yjhOG)

One of G.A. Henty's historical fictions is set during the crusades and he mentions how run down Jerusalem is (to be expected), but that it was in much worse shape in modern (late 1800s or early 1900s) which is hard for me to conceive since in current times it is a bustling metropolis.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 11:41 AM (GDulk)

177 3,2,1 Blame the gun instead of the shooter. Can't say radical Islam, damn sure won't say BLM terrorist.

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 17, 2016 11:41 AM (tSHug)

178 SEVEN officers shot (and possibly as many as eight) in Baton Rouge, two dead.

Posted by: An Observer at July 17, 2016 11:42 AM (47UFy)

179 *ssholes like King have taken over. Trump *is* the coup.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 11:07 AM (gF+Qw)


I know, right? This reminds of something that happened 20 years ago in an old job: I overheard some fat, empty-headedLIV complaining about Rush Limbaugh not by anything specific that he said but rather "What about the alternative? I never hear him talking about the alternative" and I just wanted to walk up to her and start slapping her around, "Rush *is* the alternative, you stupid bint!", but if I did that, they would have hauled me away, so I restrained myself.

I never get to have any fun.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:42 AM (tEhtH)

180 Jim, about 58 minutes in see the B-29 "Doc" start to crank the right outboard R-3350. But sound is not really good.

https://youtu.be/VNckztvXU3I?t=58m45s

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:43 AM (P6IAq)

181 Apologies for the profanity on Sunday morning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 11:43 AM (3ZoRf)

182 Heard on the news that after this celebs murder in Pakistan there is a national debate on honor killings.

Well its a bit broader than you'd think. The latest famous example was of a girl who was basically Kim Kardashian for Pakistan. Her brother killed her for the family's honor.

Now, I'm not for honor killing, and murder is way too far, but it does change the picture somewhat to think of her as a Kardashian. How shameful and awful would it be to have that family connected to your name, particularly in that culture? Who here hasn't wished they'd just disappear, and we're not even related?

So I think that's kind of playing into it some, too, more than just the concept of killing someone in the name of family honor.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:43 AM (39g3+)

183 Strangely, I just read Little Men by Louisa May Alcott this past week and am starting on Little Women.

Got the trilogy for my Kindle for a few bucks. I read it as a kid and enjoyed it then, and I'm an avid re-reader.

Probably too mushy and quaint for many, if not most. But the past couple of hellish weeks have made me really wonder, "Are we really going to make it out of this OK?" I found it a kind of comforting, brief sojourn into a quiet, gentle world where virtues such as honesty, service to others, unselfishness, courage, etc. weren't punchlines or micro-aggressions.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 11:45 AM (U3LtS)

184 Hey y'all,

Just wanted to post an update on my friend Carl.

He's getting weaned off the ventilator today, and it looks like his kidneys are working again, so no need for dialysis.

He's under light sedation, but substantial painkillers, so he's in and out, but he's aware of what's going on.

Thank you all for the well-wishes, and if y'all feel like helping him out or just reading up on his story,

https://igg.me/at/Q2o9ySHkFBo

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at July 17, 2016 11:45 AM (461pE)

185 182, you serious Clark?

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 17, 2016 11:45 AM (tSHug)

186 Anna!

I read your excerpt.

Wow!

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at July 17, 2016 11:46 AM (461pE)

187 One of G.A. Henty's historical fictions is set during the crusades and he mentions how run down Jerusalem is (to be expected), but that it was in much worse shape in modern (late 1800s or early 1900s) which is hard for me to conceive since in current times it is a bustling metropolis.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 11:41 AM (GDulk)


I would suspect that's because the late 1800s and early 1900s were when the evil Jooos from Europe showed up and started fixing and rebuilding things.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:46 AM (tEhtH)

188 Unintentionally timely post I imagine. It was also interesting reading the other day about how deeply Soros and other leftists groups are funding the BLM terrorist group.

Have we received the standard scolding from obama and clinton of how America is racist and its all our fault yet?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2016 11:46 AM (ODxAs)

189 Oh good. The New York headquarters just preempted local coverage from a reporter (knows the area and cops, has been airing the mayor and other officials, and was describing the "week of hell") to tell us how there have been a few protests that have been mostly peaceful.

Whew! For a moment there I thought things might not be peaceful.

Posted by: Damiano at July 17, 2016 11:47 AM (71OEY)

190 182 Heard on the news that after this celebs murder in Pakistan there is a national debate on honor killings.

Well its a bit broader than you'd think. The latest famous example was of a girl who was basically Kim Kardashian for Pakistan. Her brother killed her for the family's honor.

Now, I'm not for honor killing, and murder is way too far, but it does change the picture somewhat to think of her as a Kardashian. How shameful and awful would it be to have that family connected to your name, particularly in that culture? Who here hasn't wished they'd just disappear, and we're not even related?

So I think that's kind of playing into it some, too, more than just the concept of killing someone in the name of family honor.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:43 AM (39g3+)

Hmmm, not sure how to respond to this.

It's evil. It should be condemned. Rationalizing it does not change the evil of the act.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 11:48 AM (3ZoRf)

191 It appears that the Baton Rouge killer was white, from reports I'm seeing. A dumb gangsta wanna be kid based on the image.

http://tinyurl.com/jkeze6o

Again, though, 24 hour rule.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:48 AM (39g3+)

192 One of my author associations put the membership on to a new app which basically tags locations in books; it's called Squirl (http://stash.squirl.co ) You can either follow the actual physical locations described in a book, or "look around" where you are for books which are set there. I'm loading my own books into it - just to see what happens. It could be the Pokemon-Go for book readers!

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (xnmPy)

193 Drove past a Unitarian Church yesterday evening. There was a large banner out front saying, "BlackLivesMatter - A Message of Love"

Just, wow.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (U3LtS)

194 I see that as far as the past week's news is concerned, I haven't missed much, beyond the usual terrorist and cop-killing hijinks.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (461pE)

195 "if you're an HVAC guy, you're probably not going to know a lot about computers"

Have you SEEN modern commercial HVAC controllers? Most of them come with ethernet interfaces standard these days. Setting one up is as much about programming as plumbing.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (fVubI)

196 So you're saying we need to send Ozzy to negotiate with the muzz?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 17, 2016 11:35 AM (Cq0oW)


I hope not.

Posted by: a headless bat at July 17, 2016 11:50 AM (tEhtH)

197 It's evil. It should be condemned. Rationalizing it does not change the evil of the act.


Yep...

Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2016 11:50 AM (qUNWi)

198 It's evil. It should be condemned. Rationalizing it does not change the evil of the act.

I agree, it was evil and horrific and should never have happened. As I condemned it in the beginning of that quote.

I was just trying to say that the debate isn't just religious nuts going "keel them all!" and others going "maybe keel them some?" Its a bit more complex and based on Pakistani culture and concepts of honor and family. Remember it wasn't that long ago they were burning women to death when their husband died on that subcontinent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:50 AM (39g3+)

199 Drudge has the siren up...saying 10 cops shot in all, three fatally.

Prayers for their loved ones.

I blame Obama, democrats, and all the filthy race hustlers in this country. This has got to end.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 17, 2016 11:51 AM (Lsu4e)

200 Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:46 AM (tEhtH)

It would be sort of ironic if he wrote that *just* before things started getting better. He gave the impression that it was practically a ghost town in his day.
I didn't finish the story because I felt he had the standard romanticized view of islam much like Smallish Bees mentioned. I just can't handle that anymore, even in fiction, when there are so many other stories still to be read.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 11:51 AM (GDulk)

201 Drove past a Unitarian Church yesterday evening.

Unitarian churches are just a social club for lefties who want to feel spiritual and hear lectures on the latest lefty cause.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:52 AM (39g3+)

202 >>>Or, more to the point, who is it exactly who started spreading around the pernicious idea that single motherhood is something to be praised?

And when they find it is a struggle, offer them free sh*t. Lock them into voting leftist. They will believe they deserve it, because all their woes are caused by The Man, not by their behavior. Narcissism and self pity is a black hole from which no liberal mind (or tax dollar) can escape.

My complaint is that the rest of us are forced to be surrogate spouses to them (via providing financial resources) but with none of the perks of an acrual spouse. It's why I think the biological fathers should be all but enslaved, until they put the kids through college.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 11:52 AM (gF+Qw)

203 About 1:45 in that video see "Doc" taxing down McConnell AFB's runway.

I'm glad you liked it that much SMFH; it just came to me and as I wrote it, kept finding ways to run with it. As a side-effect, those two have a scene earlier in the story. So I have briefly a fifth POV in the story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:53 AM (P6IAq)

204 Thread from Tiger Droppings, a LSU message board on the ongoing cop shootings. These guys will usually have good info on things happening in Louisiana:



https://tinyurl.com/jsp38bl

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 11:53 AM (GUBah)

205 In my struggle to remain informed, and yet remain sane, I've been reading a lot of Louis L'Amour again. His books read fast, are very immersive, and portray a very different world in a very believable, simple way. Good, bad, fight evil, survive, treat your fellow man decent. The cowboy code, with strong men doing good deeds in a harsh world.

Its a good escape. I should write up a best of in his books, because while they're all fun reads, some of them are really exceptional.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:54 AM (39g3+)

206 193 Drove past a Unitarian Church yesterday evening. There was a large banner out front saying, "BlackLivesMatter - A Message of Love"

Just, wow.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (U3LtS)


Ha ha ha! Yeah, if there's one group you can absolutely count on to spout the latest leftwing bullsh*t du jour on cue, it's the Unitarians.

They're like well-trained parrots.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 11:55 AM (tEhtH)

207 I'm listening to the police scanner app and they just said a witness told them his security cam shows three shooters. That was maybe 10 mins ago.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (ebcV9)

208 I agree, it was evil and horrific and should never have happened. As I condemned it in the beginning of that quote.

I was just trying to say that the debate isn't just religious nuts going "keel them all!" and others going "maybe keel them some?" Its a bit more complex and based on Pakistani culture and concepts of honor and family. Remember it wasn't that long ago they were burning women to death when their husband died on that subcontinent.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:50 AM (39g3+)

I honestly do not see much of an improvement.

The thing about going: "this was evil, but" is that the "But" adds legitimacy to the actor. With one hand you are saying that this was evil and contemptible, and with the other saying that you can see how the person got there.

It is the same with Dem politicians condemning violence against Police, but then saying that there is righteous anger being directed at them. The second has a tendency to make the first window dressing for people who wish to do the thing. It is useless as a societal pressure statement.

I can understand what you are saying from an analytical statement. I think analysis can be useful for figuring out how the enemy thinks. But make no mistake that they are the enemy and are evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (3ZoRf)

209 Someone mentioned above how Republicans--no matter how well-read and smart--are always just plain "dumb" to the Left. When that doesn't work because the evidence to the contrary is just too obvious--Nixon, Gingrich, Cheney--well, then the default position is that they are "evil."

Then there's guys like Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, Reagan. To the Left, these guys are "amiable."
But "dumb."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (9EPp3)

210 Unitarian churches are just a social club for lefties who want to feel spiritual and hear lectures on the latest lefty cause.

May I crap all over your church? Because apparently that's cool.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (1xUj/)

211 One L'Amour book I didn't much care for is one of his last: The Walking Drum. Its not a bad story, with lots of interesting historical bits, but it has a major flaw.

Like a lot of people, L'Amour became enamored with a romantic view of Islamic Spain (al'Andalus) and portrays the Muslims as decent, honorable people who have a superior culture to the rest of Europe with vastly advanced medicine, science, literature, mathematics, etc.

The reality was, it was brutal and awful for non-Muslims, and their highest achievements were echoed in other European nations (or predated by centuries in Greece), and by non-Muslims living in the area.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:57 AM (39g3+)

212
May I crap all over your church? Because apparently that's cool.

Sure. Go ahead.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (IqV8l)

213
"Unitarian churches are just a social club for lefties who want to feel spiritual and hear lectures on the latest lefty cause."

I've had that perception, but never really knew. When I saw the banner I thought that if I were a member, I would resign immediately, and was wondering how that might impact their membership.

But your comment made me realize that I (or similar minded people) would not be members in the first place.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (U3LtS)

214 "They want to harness the energy and passion that BLM
is sparking right now, but they are playing with societal destroying
fire. Fucking morons.







Posted by: Aetius451AD"

Exactly, which is why TFG keeps inviting them to the White House. The worst is that Kendrick Lamar and his album with the dead white judge on the cover.

Shame on Obama!

Posted by: PJ at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (cHuNI)

215 About the 1 hour 50 minute mark is when "Doc" touches back down.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (P6IAq)

216 In a related historical tidbit, the grave of Thaddeus Kosciuszko, hero of the American Revolution & Poland, is filled with the earth of all the battlefields in which he fought.

And that's why we have so many potholes today.

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (weSSj)

217 The thing about going: "this was evil, but" is that the "But" adds legitimacy to the actor. With one hand you are saying that this was evil and contemptible, and with the other saying that you can see how the person got there.

Sorry it seemed that way, my purpose was to point out merely how the culture was reacting and trying to explain the background behind the debate, since you asked how that could happen. I was under the impression you wanted to know more about it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (39g3+)

218 One of G.A. Henty's historical fictions is set during the crusades and he mentions how run down Jerusalem is (to be expected), but that it was in much worse shape in modern (late 1800s or early 1900s) which is hard for me to conceive since in current times it is a bustling metropolis.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 11:41 AM (GDulk)
============
You can find photos on the internet. Yeah, it was runned down and the Temple Mount was particularly trashy and weedy.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:59 AM (iQIUe)

219 May I crap all over your church?

Been to a lot of Unitarian services, have you?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:59 AM (39g3+)

220 I wish there had been a B-52 on the flightline as "Doc" taxied past... but I guess the KC-135Rs will have to suffice.

Will the Boeing volunteers now try to restore McConnell's B-47 to flight?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 11:59 AM (P6IAq)

221 Heard a report that a "25 round" magazine was recovered. Sounds to me like it could be a BX-25 for a Ruger 10-22.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 12:00 PM (GUBah)

222
In last week's book thread, there was a solicitation for beta readers for a fellow Moron's new book, A Place Outside the Wild.



If you like post-apocalyptic/zombie fiction, this book is fantastic.
Well drawn and disparate characters with multiple converging story
lines, good dialogue, well done action scenes. The book has it all. You
should definitely check it out.



Not sure if he's still looking for readers, but you could hit him up at:



dhumphreys5252 at gmail dot com

Posted by: L. W. Badger at July 17, 2016 09:18 AM (9anvi)








Just finished it yesterday. Excellent addition to the zombie apocalypse genre. Manages to use several zombie fiction tropes without having them become cliches. Well done. Also includes one plot theme that is absolutely inspired...... but I won't spoil anything.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2016 12:00 PM (LuZz8)

223 SMFH that's wonderful! I'll be praying.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 12:01 PM (7lVbc)

224
Sorry it seemed that way, my purpose was to point out merely how the culture was reacting and trying to explain the background behind the debate, since you asked how that could happen. I was under the impression you wanted to know more about it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:58 AM (39g3+)

Sorry if my anger got directed at you a bit. I am more pissed off at the technique you used since it is one that the Dems and various liberal actors have been using for years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:01 PM (3ZoRf)

225 I am reading Secondhand Time: The Last of the Soviets
by Svetlana Alexievich.

It is full of first account narratives from the fall of the USSR. It is not a light read. My Soviet history is lacking. Thankfully, he author includes many notes to help with timelines and unfamiliar terminology and names.

This book is helping me understand the mindset of the people of Russia. Very interesting.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at July 17, 2016 12:01 PM (gppsv)

226 May I crap all over your church?

Been to a lot of Unitarian services, have you?



I have, in fact.

This doesn't feel like a happy fun book thread so I'll go watch golf.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2016 12:02 PM (1xUj/)

227 Man, this BLM bullshit is getting out of control. The Democrats are playing with nuclear firecrackers by encouraging this and giving lip service to these assholes. This is the same game they are playing with Islam in this country.

And, btw, Kendrick Lamar is a POS. The music journalists are always tripping over themselves to tell us how great he is. He's a POS.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 17, 2016 12:03 PM (9EPp3)

228 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 11:59 AM (iQIUe)

Not often that 100 years sees massive changes for the *better* in a city. Hmmm, wonder what the difference is...

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 12:03 PM (GDulk)

229 Sideways FB video from a witness:


https://tinyurl.com/gkqab6q


Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 12:03 PM (GUBah)

230
"if you're an HVAC guy, you're probably not going to know a lot about computers"
You underestimate the working class. They can't afford to be stupid. I took a computer science several years ago. The top student in the class was a HVAC guy.

Posted by: rayj at July 17, 2016 12:03 PM (qyUzy)

231 I still have a few of my "I am Darren Wilson" wristbands. Im gonna place another order.

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (Doh4+)

232 So Dallas was a tipping point. Either BLM could have recoiled in horror, and backed away, or their hatred would be given fresh impetus, from feeling that finally their side was "fighting back".

Looks like they opted for the latter. But cops have an intensely loyal culture. I'm guessing this will blow up in BLM's and Obama's faces.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (gF+Qw)

233 I've been reading a lot of Louis L'Amour again.

Have you ever read "The Last of the Breed " ?

It was the last book he wrote.

It was excellent.

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (weSSj)

234 Then there's guys like Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, Reagan. To the Left, these guys are "amiable."
But "dumb."
Posted by: JoeF. at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (9EPp3)
---
Or Rumsfeld, the rare example of "amiable but evil".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (jR7Wy)

235
Jerusalem photos from 1800s:

https://goo.gl/YTC1LI

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (iQIUe)

236 oops, left my dark times sock on. If your a DC area moron, hit me up in the group delavalette ... if you want some wristbands.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:05 PM (Doh4+)

237 Quirky bookworm...that sounds interesting.

I have a very hard time with russian writers tho.

Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2016 12:06 PM (qUNWi)

238 210, most Churches are getting crapped on these days...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 17, 2016 12:06 PM (9EPp3)

239 Have you ever read "The Last of the Breed "

It was good, I agree. He planned a sequel to Walking Drum set in India but died before he could get it written. Then there were all the Sackett books he wanted to write, filling in gaps in their history. Those would have been interesting as well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:06 PM (39g3+)

240 OregonMuse: Thank you for asking! I'm well. Playing hooky from church this morning--just couldn't face all those people wanting to welcome and talk to me. In large crowds, I'm the human equivalent of a shy woodland creature.

A masculine, self-assured shy woodland creature.

It's Summer, and I've been malingering. I must fix this, but can't quite find the energy to do so. I haven't been exercising, so that's probably why. (And it's the Catch-22: I don't have the energy or willpower to exercise, thus I have less energy and willpower to try to get to the gym, and the cycle continues.) But I've been reading obsessively! So there's that.

[I wish Pixie would allow the em-dash. Or at least have an easy-to-understand error page that would explain what the heck is wrong with my posts. I have had to resubmit my posts several times already this morning.]

Posted by: Smallish Bees at July 17, 2016 12:07 PM (yjhOG)

241 At the 1:59:54 mark if you freeze the footage of the B-29 "Doc" after landing, will see the antennas on top of the fuselage for the modern avionics. Plane is missing all four remote control turrets and lacks tail armament. Hopefully they can be added in the future.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:08 PM (P6IAq)

242 three more officers are dead because of the race baiting administration.....and we argue about who we will or will not vote for......

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 17, 2016 12:08 PM (0O7c5)

243 Remember this whole BlackLiveMatter crap has been developed and encouraged from on-high to generate black indignation and fluff turn-out for Hilary. Every one of these incidents has been deliberately misrepresented by the duplicitous media clowns.

Contrast the bullshit to an actual incident in Charleston ...

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:08 PM (Doh4+)

244 Looks like they opted for the latter. But cops have an intensely loyal culture. I'm guessing this will blow up in BLM's and Obama's faces.
Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (gF+Qw)

Yup...time to arrest it's members, it's funders and confiscate it's property. Tie them to all the violence ala Manson style and keep the pressure on until the hardcore cadre is dried up and the wanna bees go somewhere else.

And arrest Hillary.

These people need to reap what they sow.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2016 12:09 PM (ej1L0)

245 Or Rumsfeld, the rare example of "amiable but evil".

Rumsfeld and Cheney are good examples of men the left thought were terrific, then turned on because they were associated with George Bush. They considered Cheney a statesman, a man with deep "gravitas" and an incredible mind with great foreign policy experience. Then he turned into Hitler McPolPot when they were trying to stop Bush from reelection. Rumsfeld they loved like a crotchety old grandpa who had no time for anyone's BS. Then he turned into a baby-eating monster for them...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:09 PM (39g3+)

246
I've been reading a lot of Louis L'Amour again.



Have you ever read "The Last of the Breed " ?



It was the last book he wrote.



It was excellent.

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2016 12:04 PM (weSSj)







Great book. Near the beginning is a fantastic rebuttal to lefty racial bullshit. The GRU agent tries to ingratiate himself to Major Joe Mack (Sioux, by birth, USAF test pilot by choice) pointing out that the US was stolen from his people. Mack just replies that his ancestors had stolen it from other tribes beforehand, and that regardless of who's in charge, it's still his country.

Oh, and it also has a great badass ending "This was once a custom of my people......"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2016 12:10 PM (LuZz8)

247 Thank you all for the well-wishes, and if y'all feel like helping him out or just reading up on his story,

https://igg.me/at/Q2o9ySHkFBo

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at July 17, 2016 11:45 AM (461pE)


I sent a help request to indiegogo (what a stupid name!) for them to tell me which scripts I need to enable to process a donation. If they refuse to help me, then pineapple, napalm, concertina wire, etc.


In which case, please provide me with an e-mail address, and I will send some money via Paypal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2016 12:10 PM (GSdpU)

248 Anna -- did you find your thumb drive?

Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2016 12:10 PM (qUNWi)

249 A bit further into the video. Tail gunner position is covered over but they have what looks like sticks jutting out back to represent the .50cals. But no 20mm cannon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:12 PM (P6IAq)

250
I'll never forget those peaceful protests in St.Louis where the BLMs would grab drivers by the throats who dared to get out of their cars and complain about blocking traffic.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:12 PM (iQIUe)

251 This has got to end.


Posted by: IrishEi at July 17, 2016 11:51 AM (Lsu4e)

It will not end well

Posted by: Velvet Ambition TEXIT at July 17, 2016 12:12 PM (QPdNE)

252 "if you're an HVAC guy, you're probably not going to know a lot about computers"
You underestimate the working class. They can't afford to be stupid. I took a computer science several years ago. The top student in the class was a HVAC guy.

Posted by: rayj


Huh, yeah those CFD equations for duct work, modeling aerodynamic particle sizes, and mass air balances are still done on slide rules.

Coding and IT ops are just another trade these days; cute little certifications and store front schools - like truck drivers and beauticians, I expect the bastard to unionize soon.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:12 PM (Doh4+)

253 May I crap all over your church? Because apparently that's cool.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2016 11:56 AM (1xUj/)


Sounds like somebody's ox is being gored.


United Church of Canada (which I was raised in, and thankfully got out of) is useless squishes, too. The NDP at prayer. If the shoe fits...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2016 12:13 PM (GSdpU)

254 This might not have anything to do with BLM. Witnesses say there was a shootout between people before the cops showed up.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 17, 2016 12:13 PM (ebcV9)

255 This doesn't feel like a happy fun book thread so I'll go watch golf.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 17, 2016 12:02 PM (1xUj/

It is a birdie festival by the co-leaders who are in the final pairing. Through the first 11 holes it has been like watching a boxing match.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 17, 2016 12:14 PM (atQ0F)

256 Anna Puma,

How 'bout a "resto-mod" of a B-47, but give it a pair of high-bypass turbofans, modify the cockpits to be conventional vs. tandem, glass avionics suite, full modern "Bus" type interface for avionics, weapons & sensors, etc.

I think we'd end up with a non-stealthy, but high-loiter time medium bomber, with per hour costs at a fraction of the B-1.

Moreover, it'd still be one of the prettiest airplanes to ever have flown.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2016 12:14 PM (v5iqM)

257 Eleven cf #121 for an update.

Thanks for asking. And I should go write some more.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:15 PM (P6IAq)

258 Wish I had invested in a NIIJ Level 4 plate OEM ...

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:15 PM (Doh4+)

259 This might not have anything to do with BLM. Witnesses say there was a shootout between people before the cops showed up.

Yeah this doesn't seem to have been directly connected to BLM. The culture of "kill cops" is partly to blame I suspect. I think a new generation of kids needs to learn that the cops are the biggest gang in town.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:16 PM (39g3+)

260 I am so sick and disgusted over these shootings of police. I wonder if it would have happened if we did not have endless and perpetual indoctrination of children going on from day 1 in public schools. It is an outrage that children graduate with no knowledge and an endless supply of illogical and ungrounded feelings that have been spoon-fed to them. How many of them have read even two books from start to finish, books that were not picked out by their fully indoctrinated-and-indoctrinating teachers? I can almost feel sorry for them because these people with no minds of their own never stood a chance against the machine of the state.

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 17, 2016 12:18 PM (VsZJP)

261 The two seat fighter style cockpit of the B-47 along with the overall sleekness of the airframe makes that bomber far sexier than an F-14. It just screams speed even when parked.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:19 PM (P6IAq)

262 Anna Puma,

How 'bout a "resto-mod" of a B-47, but give it a pair of high-bypass turbofans, modify the cockpits to be conventional vs. tandem, glass avionics suite, full modern "Bus" type interface for avionics, weapons & sensors, etc.

I think we'd end up with a non-stealthy, but high-loiter time medium bomber, with per hour costs at a fraction of the B-1.

Moreover, it'd still be one of the prettiest airplanes to ever have flown.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim


Look at what Basler does for inspiration, then add modern weapons.

Still think the older -52s can be Q'd into remote loitering drone bomb trucks serving JTACs from 50K ft. Add, some comm relays - you could fit a dozen BACN nodes - and it woulddn't even notice.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:20 PM (Doh4+)

263
Baton Rouge 3 cops dead 4 wounded. More dead cops and the blame starts with the community agitator in the White House. And at any memorial for these cops they should not allow that queer anywhere near it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 17, 2016 12:20 PM (GILMl)

264 And nope, they have the glass in the tail gunner's position on the B-29, it was all just blending in as the plane motored by the crowd.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:20 PM (P6IAq)

265 Just wanted to unlurk long enough to jump in and say how much I loved both Kjelgaard and Terhune as a much younger reader. For Kindle readers, I noticed that Terhune's books are either free or a dollar on Amazon. It's been more than 50 years since I read them but imagine that they would still appeal to young readers and/or dog lovers.

Also, checked out The Kidnap Plot; the Kindle version is more expensive than hardcover. I know it's not the author's fault, but you'd think that publishers would at least not go out of their way to annoy readers/buyers.

Posted by: Tireddoc at July 17, 2016 12:21 PM (69DCz)

266 This might not have anything to do with BLM. Witnesses say there was a shootout between people before the cops showed up.

He was walking towards police HQs; not FBI level 'intent' - but good enough for me.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:22 PM (Doh4+)

267 Love the L'Amour books. Spent several rainy Saturdays is my early 20's reading a couple or three at a clip.

Had hoped when I got my Kindle that this crap of publisher set prices would eventually go away and I would be able to grab whole collections such as L'Amour, Spenser novels, Lucas Davenport novels, etc. at a reasonable price. Then donate some of the shelves and boxes of books hanging around.

Doesn't look like that is going to happen soon, if ever. My pet peeve.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 12:22 PM (U3LtS)

268 Just got back home, this many police officers killed and wounded couldn't be from a shootout.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:23 PM (bksJQ)

269 192 One of my author associations put the membership on to a new app which basically tags locations in books; it's called Squirl (http://stash.squirl.co ) You can either follow the actual physical locations described in a book, or "look around" where you are for books which are set there. I'm loading my own books into it - just to see what happens. It could be the Pokemon-Go for book readers!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 17, 2016 11:49 AM (xnmPy)

That sounds very cool!

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 12:24 PM (7lVbc)

270 It is hard to keep track of the various people it could be: random jihadi, ISIS plot, BLM nut.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:25 PM (3ZoRf)

271 Why is Soros not in jail and under indictment for murder and treason?

Posted by: Dick Taylor CSA at July 17, 2016 12:25 PM (rOCYU)

272 Unfortunately, too many people are willing to pay grossly inflated prices to publishers for e-books and they won't lower them until they have to. $5 is enough for any e-book, and anything older than 10 years should be half that price or less. The truth is, e-books are almost entirely profit, there's only some expense at the front end.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:26 PM (39g3+)

273 Heather MacDonald is on Book TV right now

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:26 PM (bksJQ)

274 President Feckless Fucktard is soon to deliver remarks on the atrocity just perpetrated by white male NRA members. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 17, 2016 12:26 PM (mmIVx)

275 #235 nice pics...thanks

Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2016 12:27 PM (Fom5N)

276 1 Why is Soros not in jail and under indictment for murder and treason?

Posted by: Dick Taylor CSA at July 17, 2016 12:25 PM

From various countries?

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:27 PM (bksJQ)

277 That Squirl app sounds fascinating, but the link you gave is kind of dead

http://www.squirl.co/

worked for me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)

278 274 President Feckless Fucktard is soon to deliver remarks on the atrocity just perpetrated by white male NRA members. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 17, 2016 12:26 PM (mmIVx)

Real, or snark? The situation seems to still be going on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:28 PM (3ZoRf)

279 "For Kindle readers, I noticed that Terhune's books are either free or a dollar on Amazon. It's been more than 50 years since I read them but imagine that they would still appeal to young readers and/or dog lovers."

Thanks for the tip. Any other info on the typical plots, etc. of these. My pit bull is sleeping right now next to my feet under my office desk. You could say I am a dog lover.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 12:28 PM (U3LtS)

280 Why is Soros not in jail and under indictment for murder and treason?
Posted by: Dick Taylor CSA at July 17, 2016 12:25 PM (rOCYU)

Someone should do something about this!

Posted by: Attorney General Lynch at July 17, 2016 12:28 PM (Qote8)

281 F-ck jail, I want Soros to be tossed in a dark, cockroach infested hole in some Malaysian hell.

Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:29 PM (Doh4+)

282 George Soros' manipulation of foreign currencies should have had him jailed in multiple places. He basically was working to destabilize entire economies (as he likely did in the USA) which is pretty much espionage and warfare. But he's free and unbothered. No wonder he thinks he's a god.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:30 PM (39g3+)

283 The British Open round is amazing. Their nerves have got to be shot out by now.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 17, 2016 12:30 PM (Qote8)

284 Every cop killed is another campaign ad against the Dems.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2016 12:30 PM (FpN8r)

285 I can almost feel sorry for them because these people with no minds of their own never stood a chance against the machine of the state.
Posted by: Tonestaple


Meh. The human being is a rational animal, not merely an animal, and as such is responsible for making sure that his beliefs are warranted and consistent. How many of us (myself included) were fed liberal bullshit up through high school, and believed it, but eventually gave it up because there were too many inconsistencies?

These inner city kids, apart from the gang wars, have a much better life and opportunities than, say, the average medieval peasant. And if those peasants were for the most part orderly and law abiding, there is no excuse for the inner cities as they are today.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 12:30 PM (gF+Qw)

286 281 F-ck jail, I want Soros to be tossed in a dark, cockroach infested hole in some Malaysian hell.
Posted by: Jean at July 17, 2016 12:29 PM (Doh4+)

Since this is the book thread, I would take the Chateau D'lf from Count of Monte Cristo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (3ZoRf)

287 275 #235 nice pics...thanks

Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2016 12:27 PM (Fom5N)


The text accompanying the photos asks a good question: if there were a million 'Palestinians' living in Israel as is often claimed, whom the evil Jooos 'displaced', then where are all the mosques?

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (tEhtH)

288 278

It doesn't matter what happened. He'll blame it on those people.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (mmIVx)

289 Great, my ever-changing hash now says Fapinator.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (FpN8r)

290 Facts!??
They'll kill you for the myths.

Posted by: G6loq at July 17, 2016 12:33 PM (zj+JZ)

291 201 Drove past a Unitarian Church yesterday evening.

Unitarian churches are just a social club for lefties who want to feel spiritual and hear lectures on the latest lefty cause.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 11:52 AM (39g3+)

Unitarian Universalist, absolutely.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 17, 2016 12:34 PM (0mRoj)

292
French health minister says 85 people still hospitalized after Nice truck attack, 18 are in life-threatening condition.

===============
That's a lot of people.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:34 PM (iQIUe)

293 288 278

It doesn't matter what happened. He'll blame it on those people.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (mmIVx)

Oh, no doubt of that. I was just wondering if the moron was already going to talk about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:34 PM (3ZoRf)

294 Since this is the book thread, I would take the Chateau D'lf from Count of Monte Cristo.


Naah....too easy to escape.

Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2016 12:34 PM (qUNWi)

295 289 Great, my ever-changing hash now says Fapinator.
Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (FpN8r)

Truly epic.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 17, 2016 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

296 Damn. Things are almost as bad as they were during the Great Teaparty Violence Purge of 2010.

*spit*

Its like 60s witout the good music., man.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 17, 2016 12:35 PM (JmjOe)

297
Fox News says it was another ambush of cops. All the guests are throwing blame at Queen Barry. The head of all police organizations need to do the same. The anti-cop, anti-American queen needs to be blame for the death and destruction he's done to this country

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 17, 2016 12:35 PM (GILMl)

298 Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 12:30 PM (gF+Qw)

You underestimate the degree to which modern "education" specifically erodes the ability to *be* rational. This is why I pulled my kids out of public school. I was *watching* them become *less* fully themselves as well as less curious, less involved and more passive. It was horrifying. Their peers who remained in public education are becoming the zombie mob, just with no interest in brains.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 12:36 PM (GDulk)

299 295 289 Great, my ever-changing hash now says Fapinator.
Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2016 12:32 PM (FpN8r)

Truly epic.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 17, 2016 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

Looks like you got the stink eye of whichever of the hamsters hands out hashes. NDH's is funny though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:37 PM (3ZoRf)

300 293

OK, got it. I've not heard if he's actually said anything yet. I guess he will shortly.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 17, 2016 12:37 PM (mmIVx)

301 I keep hearing this is going to be like the summer of 68. I was only 6 then. Not sure what I read about it is true or not.

Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2016 12:38 PM (I5pd9)

302 277 That Squirl app sounds fascinating, but the link you gave is kind of dead

http://www.squirl.co/

worked for me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)

Must have been a secret Squirl.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 17, 2016 12:38 PM (0mRoj)

303 I can go to Amazon and buy a hardcover copy of a Lucas Davenport "Prey" novel for $.01 ($3.99 shipping). The Kindle price is $7.99.

Some of these are 25+ years old! I had figured by now the Kindle prices would be say, a buck or so. I figured I could get the whole set for maybe $50ish or certainly less than $100. Current prices are ridiculous. Simply don't have the shelf space for hundreds of books, particularly hardcover.

At $8.00 per, I cannot imagine they could sell more than a few a year. But there could be hundreds of fans who would pay a buck or so for the convenience. I guess they would rather piss people off.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 12:39 PM (U3LtS)

304 Reading "Police" by Jo Nesbo.

Did you know that Norwegians have sex?

Is it because they put a slash through their O's?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at July 17, 2016 12:39 PM (U6f54)

305 261 The two seat fighter style cockpit of the B-47 along with the overall sleekness of the airframe makes that bomber far sexier than an F-14. It just screams speed even when parked.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 12:19 PM (P6IAq)



You're right on the visual and visceral appeal, of course. But Gen. LeMay vetoed the tandem layout of the XB-52, for what we have today.

Pilot workload, teamwork and coordination are far better in the conventional cockpit, alas.

But I'm sure a more B-1-ish interface of aluminum and plexi could be drawn into the lines, vs the B-52's Greyhound Bus looking visage.

And modern manufacturing for the new wings, I think they'd whip the spar cracking and such, that resulted from the "over the shoulder" nuke delivery manuvers?

There's been so much development of better airfoils since then, too. The efficiency and strength of a modern wing and engines would be most impressive on a B-47, I think.

Changing gears.

Prayers for blessings to SMFH and her friend, Carl.

And for the cops and everyone affected in Baton Rouge.

Sad, but the 72 hr. rule for all info coming out of that is going to have to apply. But I hope the bastards what done these shootings end up with chalk outlines.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2016 12:39 PM (v5iqM)

306
Harris Faulkner is being very passionate about the BR shootings.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 17, 2016 12:41 PM (JmjOe)

307 Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2016 12:38 PM (I5pd9)

I wasn't born yet, but a foreign missionary said that in Europe '68 was called something like "The Year of the Madness" because the civil disaster was world-wide. I haven't checked the publishing date, but I suspect that Agatha Christie's Passenger to Frankfurt was written near that time. Current events certainly remind me of the book frequently.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2016 12:41 PM (GDulk)

308 294 Since this is the book thread, I would take the Chateau D'lf from Count of Monte Cristo.


Naah....too easy to escape.
Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2016 12:34 PM (qUNWi)


You and I have very different definitions of "easy."

Posted by: Edmond Dantes at July 17, 2016 12:42 PM (0mRoj)

309 Good comment at the top of the page on WZ about a tweet from the DBIC.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:45 PM (3ZoRf)

310 Unitarian churches are just a social club for lefties who want to feel spiritual and hear lectures on the latest lefty cause.
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I'm getting the same shit at my LCMS church these days.

Which is why I slept in this morning.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 12:45 PM (3Liv/)

311 Authors can put their books and locations into Squirl on their website, by the way. I'm adding Life Unworthy spots into their database.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

312
On this day in 1959, Billie Holiday died from heart and liver failure. What a sad and pitiful death. She was arrested in the hospital for drug possession and they put an armed guard in front of her door like she could escape even if she wanted to.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:48 PM (iQIUe)

313 Looks like you got the stink eye of whichever of the hamsters hands out hashes.
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Yeah, I apparently made one too many pro-Trump comments :p

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 12:48 PM (3Liv/)

314 Finished Reading all Jane Austen's books... Moved on to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte... I like the old stuff...

Posted by: donna at July 17, 2016 12:48 PM (O2RFr)

315
BREAKING NEWS: Officers are in a standoff with the second shooter at an unknown location. #BatonRouge

2nd shooter?!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:49 PM (iQIUe)

316 Re: e-novel pricing

Are authors still getting a larger percentage of profit from the sale of an e-book than dead tree form? That was one of the major reasons (aside from convenience) I switched to primarily e-books.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:49 PM (3ZoRf)

317 I am all big smiles! My grandson just helped me unpack and sort out the last 5 boxes of books for my library. Not quite the dewey decimal system but at least I got authors back together!

Posted by: FCF at July 17, 2016 12:49 PM (kejii)

318 Three shooters.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 17, 2016 12:50 PM (sqHNm)

319 315
BREAKING NEWS: Officers are in a standoff with the second shooter at an unknown location. #BatonRouge

2nd shooter?!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:49 PM (iQIUe)

The stuff I have seen speculate that there are as many as three shooters. A tweet I saw said that one guy was dead, and the police were pursuing two others.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2016 12:51 PM (3ZoRf)

320 At least we had 1 quiet day.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:51 PM (bksJQ)

321 At $8.00 per, I cannot imagine they could sell more than a few a year. But there could be hundreds of fans who would pay a buck or so for the convenience. I guess they would rather piss people off.

I think they are fixated on how much money they can make per sale, and worried that if they go too low, they seem cheap and no better than those awful independent authors.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:51 PM (39g3+)

322 2nd shooter?!
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Fox is reporting 3 shooters, one of which is dead, the other two were in the wind. Guess they found one.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 12:51 PM (3Liv/)

323 So, they killed the first shooter but there is a 2nd one, too??

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:52 PM (iQIUe)

324 I'm getting the same shit at my LCMS church these days.

Which is why I slept in this morning.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat



LCMS?? You didn't just misspell ELCA? That's depressing. I used to listen to Issues, etc., tabletalk radio and God Whisperers, though I am not Lutheran. It was good stuff.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 12:52 PM (gF+Qw)

325 So, they killed the first shooter but there is a 2nd one, too??


Do they have any idea why?

Posted by: donna at July 17, 2016 12:52 PM (O2RFr)

326 At least we had 1 quiet day.
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19 days to Rio

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 12:53 PM (3Liv/)

327 Harris Faulkner is being very passionate about the BR shootings.

Last year she called out the president about his lack of passion when it comes to Islamic terror. It was one of the best editorials I'd heard in the past decade. She's underrated as an anchor and deserves her own show!

Posted by: Gungrabby McGrabberson at July 17, 2016 12:53 PM (2X7pN)

328
Thanks for the updates, everybody! I cant keep up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 12:54 PM (iQIUe)

329 I was in Kearney, NE yesterday during the Summer Car Cruise.
There is a branch of Univ of Nebraska - Kearney up there--there was a BLM march of about 20 people heading for the main drag with a rainbow flag at the head, so maybe it was LGBTBLM.

It got interesting when they came to the main drag with the Confederate flags flying off the back of pickups.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2016 12:54 PM (VxHD9)

330 stenson up 2 at the 16th hole...

the swede is cooking a smorgasbord!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 17, 2016 12:55 PM (WTSFk)

331 I'm getting the same shit at my LCMS church these days.

My denomination (Christian Reformed Church) is heading that way rapidly. The local church is still good, and I imagine you could find a unitarian group that isn't hard left as well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:56 PM (39g3+)

332 Big Fat Meanie- I will have to ask the kids about that. They participated in Rocky Mountain Road week again this year. They were in Kearney yesterday as well.

Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2016 12:56 PM (I5pd9)

333 New thread for Breaking might be appropriate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2016 12:57 PM (3hIZX)

334 Guy on Fox blaming ISIS.

No, how about the terrorist group Black Lives Matter.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 17, 2016 12:58 PM (hlMPp)

335 Speaking of churches, congregation at Broadmoor Baptist in Baton Rouge being kept in the building following services. Evidently the church is pretty close to the scene.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 12:58 PM (GUBah)

336
Fox News now saying there is a standoff between police and one of the shooters. The MFM is quickly looking for his Tea Party affiliation.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 17, 2016 12:58 PM (GILMl)

337 Clinton News Network yesterday had a segment on black open carrying group in Texas. In a interview they were talking to one man who had a handgun 1 in chamber and fully loaded with no safety. He was asked who was his greatest potential enemy and he said the police.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:58 PM (bksJQ)

338 He was asked who was his greatest potential enemy and he said the police.


I guess black-on-black murders are friendly fire.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2016 01:00 PM (3hIZX)

339 It has been brought up before it would be nice to have a open thread like yesterday's below the garden thread.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 01:00 PM (bksJQ)

340 Mr Peeples that's what I got out of it.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 01:01 PM (bksJQ)

341 Cnn says military style garb and "hint" White..... Why would White people do this? Unless it was the Amish...

Posted by: donna at July 17, 2016 01:02 PM (O2RFr)

342 Reports of shots fired in the parking lot of Cortana Mall in BR.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 17, 2016 01:02 PM (GUBah)

343 337 Clinton News Network yesterday had a segment on black open carrying group in Texas. In a interview they were talking to one man who had a handgun 1 in chamber and fully loaded with no safety. He was asked who was his greatest potential enemy and he said the police.
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:58 PM (bksJQ)

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Sounds like he is a future "selfie" :

http://heyjackass.com/

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 01:03 PM (iQIUe)

344 I feel like I'm living in the seventh level of Dante Algoreieri's Inferno . Time to set up the AC.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 17, 2016 01:04 PM (gF+Qw)

345 LCMS?? You didn't just misspell ELCA?
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It's the same building I've been going to for a quarter century. Our previous bad apple who left two years ago took the Missouri Synod reference out of the sign to the street in order to 'be more inviting' and nobody had noticed until he went off the rails. The new guy is 'nice' and coasting into retirement and thus has most of the conservative wing of the congregation lulled into a stupor.

And despite being a glorified temp, he seems to think he needs to push sweeping changes to our by-laws in order to 'modernize' us. He's the sort who writes off anything inconvenient to his goals in the Bible as cultural bias and at least my perception is that most everyone's eating that shit up, and the few folks I talk to who see it for what it is just feel too overwhelmed by the entire society's slide into the abyss to offer resistance on Sunday mornings.

It's dispiriting.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 01:04 PM (3Liv/)

346 Thanks for the tip. Any other info on the typical plots, etc. of these. My pit bull is sleeping right now next to my feet under my office desk. You could say I am a dog lover.

Terhune was big on collies as best I remember. I had 3 from age 3-17, so maybe that's why I remember them so fondly. Big emphasis on loyalty, heart, steadfastness on the part of the dog, obviously from a time long past.

Posted by: Tireddoc at July 17, 2016 01:04 PM (69DCz)

347 nood open.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 17, 2016 01:06 PM (tEhtH)

348 There was a story in the sidebar by a blogger saying he, as a black man, couldn't play Pokemon Go because he'd get shot going into all those new places while playing the game.

Like this open carrier at the march, he's actually *safer* getting out among white people, since the overwhelming majority of black shooting victims are shot by other black people. By sheer statistics, staying in black neighborhoods is by far the greater danger.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2016 01:06 PM (3hIZX)

349 Standoff is ongoing according to sources being reported on Fox

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 01:07 PM (bksJQ)

350 Which is why I slept in this morning.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 17, 2016 12:45 PM (3Liv/

Yup...between Pope Karl Francis Marx Che' and the blathering's about helping the poor illegal invaders I stay home more now and say my prayers when I am washing my pimp mobile on sundays.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2016 01:08 PM (ej1L0)

351 Posted by: Tireddoc at July 17, 2016 12:21 PM (69DCz)

I was recently lucky enough to score six of Terhune's books at an estate sale, all in very good condition. Now if I can just get my grand-kids to give them back!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 01:08 PM (wYnyS)

352 Turkey reporting 42 helicopters missing. Sign of another coup?Or more reason for govt to press for harsher punishment on secular dissenters?

Dissenters stay home! In 2015, Erdogan imprisoned 1800 people, including children, for making fun of him.

And the Turks are celebrating the failed coup with the ISIS salute and chants of Allie Snackbar.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 01:10 PM (iQIUe)

353 Posted by: Tireddoc at July 17, 2016 01:04 PM (69DCz)

I think Terhune raised show collies ( Sunnybank Kennels) and yes, he had a definite bias towards them

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 01:11 PM (wYnyS)

354 Not thinking we're gonna make it till Nov. 8. Americans way of living is gonna be altered significantly between now then. Hey, look it's the Kardashian's.

Posted by: WeBoned! at July 17, 2016 01:11 PM (SOVQ8)

355
Cop is stopped in the middle of the intersection, hiding behind his car, gun out, gunfire all over the place, and cars just keep driving thru...

https://goo.gl/AqdlKH

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 17, 2016 01:13 PM (iQIUe)

356 320 At least we had 1 quiet day.
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2016 12:51 PM (bksJQ)

We did! That was Saturday, wasn't it? But now it's time for another round of "getting sick to my stomach."

Posted by: washrivergal at July 17, 2016 01:18 PM (CFc5L)

357 Not thinking we're gonna make it till Nov. 8.
Americans way of living is gonna be altered significantly between now
then. Hey, look it's the Kardashian's.


Posted by: WeBoned! at July 17, 2016 01:11 PM (SOVQ

Truth in unusual places? Daughter's farrier told her six months ago that he was convinced Obama and the libs would stage some horrible events that would be used as the pretext for Obama to declare martial law, cancel elections because "if it saves one life", and remain in office until "calm" was restored! At the time this seemed far-fetched, now, however...

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 01:19 PM (wYnyS)

358 Sorry for the people who didn't have a good Sunday morning or don't feel like going to church because of conflict. I wasn't at the little churches I serve communion or sometimes conduct worship or preach at at. Instead I got up at 4;15 and travelled and then I prayed along with the pastor of the church I just served as interim along with kids and adults going to West Virginia to help rehabilitate homes for "Appalachian Service Project." Then I spent a lot of time listening and praying with people who have various troubles and stand in the need of prayer.

Then I went to the Orthodox Church where I listened to a great sermon on the healing of the centurion's servant-,given by a priest who spend 30 years "under authority" in the military. First time I've heard that passage preached on by a man who had been supervising chaplains in the military.

Sometimes it's just nice to sit and listen and pray and not have to do anything. I can't take the Eucharist because I am not Orthodox, however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2016 01:27 PM (bpZlE)

359 358-Sorry; That had nothing to do with books so I'll make it about books. I am reading a book of Orthodox Prayers through the centuries which i am enjoying.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2016 01:29 PM (bpZlE)

360 Sgt Mom, Voter Mom, Christopher Taylor re: Squirl

I wonder if I should add a site from Alexandria to it? A little prepublication media buzz and link to Golden Isis on Amazon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 01:32 PM (P6IAq)

361 Wow, late to the thread today.

I'm on the fifth "Green Field's" book by Adrienne Lecter. A good twist on a post-apocalyptic zombie novel. The author has a background in science so that makes it interesting.

I also read all three Amy Lynn books by Jack July, fellow moron. I throughly enjoyed them. I wish he'd do a book about Uncle Jack and another on Bogus.

Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 17, 2016 01:33 PM (xVgrA)

362 I also read all three Amy Lynn books by Jack July, fellow moron. I throughly enjoyed them. I wish he'd do a book about Uncle Jack and another on Bogus.
Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 17, 2016 01:33 PM (xVgrA)
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Seconded.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 17, 2016 01:39 PM (jR7Wy)

363 Tireddoc,

Thanks for the Terhune lead. I will check it out. I enjoy going back in time via these older books. A time and way of life long since gone.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2016 01:40 PM (U3LtS)

364 Greetings:

"Nelson's Trafalgar" by Roy Adkins. Worthwhile read with really good diagrams of the battle at different points in time. Also, the background of those "iron men" in wooden ships lives and living conditions.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2016 01:40 PM (evgyj)

365 I wonder if I should add a site from Alexandria to it? A little prepublication media buzz and link to Golden Isis on Amazon.

I recommend creating an account and adding your book(s) and locations in them if possible. I threw some on there for Life Unworthy. The interface is a bit awkward and for some reason its location map defaults to Copenhagen no matter what you tell it to search for, so you have to zoom out and find places manually.

"Nelson's Trafalgar" by Roy Adkins.

A book I've wanted to read for a while, its supposed to be very good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 01:42 PM (39g3+)

366 The Morons are a pretty impressive bunch re the autobiographical and history books they read, but I mainly read for escape.

I have a "first sentence" rule when picking up any book. If the first sentence doesn't grab me and make me want to continue, down it goes.

So, on the recommendation of the local Sunday rag, I checked out "The Passenger" by Lisa Lutz. Try this for an opener:

When I found my husband at the bottom of the stairs, I tried to resuscitate him before I ever considered disposing of the body.

Don't know about you, but that grabbed me. I'm only halfway through, but so far, so good.

OM, maybe that could be one of the topics of an upcoming book thread: opening lines.

Harlan Coben used to KILL with some of his, and he may still have the best one ever from "Tell No One."

Posted by: RushBabe at July 17, 2016 01:51 PM (OJKE+)

367 "A brutal kick in the ribs jolted him from a sound sleep and he lunged to his feet"

First line of book I'm presently reading: The Iron Marshall (Louis L'Amour)

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 01:53 PM (39g3+)

368 289
Great, my ever-changing hash now says Fapinator.

Hmm. Come to think of it Fapinator would be a good name for a World of Warcraft character. Fapinatrix would be better (female night/blood elf), but is one letter too long.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 17, 2016 01:55 PM (Oi5b2)

369 72
Was Ted Kennedy ever sober? I mean were there any periods of time he was
on the wagon? Can you believe Joan is still alive? I remember photos
of her face down in the street she was so drunk.

********

Joan. Sad but triumphant. Outlived Ted.

Posted by: gracepc at July 17, 2016 01:55 PM (OU4q6)

370 When I found my husband at the bottom of the stairs, I tried to resuscitate him before I ever considered disposing of the body.

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That is a great opening, Rushbabe.

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 01:57 PM (7lVbc)

371 First line in Resurgence: Green Fields 5

"Dying sucks."

Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 17, 2016 02:02 PM (xVgrA)

372 "Make haste Ptolemy!"

First line for Alexandria story. But first I'm going to finish writing it before sweating killer first lines which had been a panel one year at Project A-kon in Dallas.

Finally about to reach 25,000 words.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2016 02:07 PM (P6IAq)

373 OM, maybe that could be one of the topics of an upcoming book thread: opening lines.
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It was a dark and stormy night...

Posted by: Snoopy at July 17, 2016 02:07 PM (9mTYi)

374 Nice topic, this opening lines of books. I'm sure I've forgotten more good ones than I can remember, but here are a few:

"The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault." (one of the Harry Dresden books)

"No one ever walked across the bridge, not on a night like this." (Mickey Spillane)

"Things often happened to Gallegher, who played at science by ear." (Henry Kuttner, The Proud Robot)

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2016 02:08 PM (iMxBJ)

375 First line of Old Habits, my second novel:

"To be fair, it really was my fault."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

376 374
Nice topic, this opening lines of books. I'm sure I've forgotten more good ones than I can remember, but here are a few:

"The penis as we know it is obsolete!" -> Steel Beach

Posted by: Anachronda at July 17, 2016 02:20 PM (Oi5b2)

377 My bad. It's actually:

"In five years, the penis will be obsolete," said the salesman.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 17, 2016 02:24 PM (Oi5b2)

378 The truth is, e-books are almost entirely profit, there's only some expense at the front end.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2016 12:26 PM (39g3+)

One of my peeves: you can get all Shakespeare works on ebook for free but I paid about $13 for the Oxford version. You get a nice intro but the works have so many errors it's ridiculous, they must've saved $$$ not editing them. My hardcover book is great, no obvious errors.

Posted by: waelse1 at July 17, 2016 02:25 PM (kZFjr)

379 A little known fact, Lafayette's grave in Paris is filled with American soil. He visited the US after the American revolution and received a hero's welcome from citizens in all the States.

I was born in Fayette County in southwestern PA. For one of their centennial celebrations they put up wooden cutouts of Lafayette, dressed in full uniform, around certain parts of the country.

Unfortunately, Fayette has the unfortunate distinction of being THE poorest county in the Commonwealth, particularly hard hit in the Rust Belt.

Posted by: RushBabe at July 17, 2016 02:31 PM (OJKE+)

380 An oldie but a goodie:

"He sat, in defiance of municipal orders, astride the gun Zam Zammah on
her brick platform opposite the old Ajaib-Gher --the Wonder House, as
the natives call the Lahore Museum."

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 02:31 PM (wYnyS)

381 Late to the Book Thread today...Working!

Work, work, work.

Gotta pay for my thrills of having vacation over the last couple of weeks.

Anywho...


I read "The Vendor of Sweets" by R K Narayan while traveling.

"Vendor of Sweets" is listed by Anthony Burgess as one of the 99 great novels of the 20th Century.

Actually, Burgess gives VoS it's position as an overall award to Narayan's Novels of Malgudi. A series of novels set in a small South Indian village.

VoS would fall into the category of gentle human comedy. Not much action, lots of talking and yet by the end of the novel, the main characters have changed profoundly.

Narayan writing is pristine and precise. The novel is very short. The comedy is mostly of the "smile" variety. An interesting view of South Indian society can be gleaned from the various characters interactions.

The story, which was written in the 50s-60s, seems rather relevant to today's world as the Vendor runs a successful business but has a son who could stand in for a modern day pajama boy.

The son rejects the Vendor's world and quits college to become a writer. Of course, he's a writer who never writes anything and as the story progresses engages in evermore frivolous schemes to prove how special he is.

The Vendor, who casts every action of the son in the best light, spoils him dreadfully...until he doesn't.

The breaking point is his son asking for roughly $50K to manufacture a "story writing machine".

The Vendor who styles himself as a follower of Gandhi and Hinduism and thus not so concerned with worldly goods finds that he, in fact, is very concerned about that huge sum of worldly goods. And he begins to contrast his son's flounderings to his own experiences as a follower of Gandhi fighting for independence.

If this sounds like heavy going, it's not. Narayan has a light humorous touch and brings things to a surprising and somewhat mixed conclusion.

Honestly, I don't know if I'd recommend this book to the modern reader. There's very little action and the story takes place in the broad grey smear of human interaction and the human heart. Because it is a comedy of the mildest sort, it's fun reading. But, low key fun.

If this sounds like your kind of thing, it's available on Amazon for $ 0.01.

And there are several "Malgudi novels" available as well if you like this one.

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part One: Flaming Hoops" at July 17, 2016 02:33 PM (0cMkb)

382 Oh, if we're putting up opening lines...

This one from my novel is pretty good-


"Not bad," thought Lt. McGill as he admired the sailor's buttocks. "Wonder why she got kicked out of Japan?"

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part One: Flaming Hoops" at July 17, 2016 02:46 PM (0cMkb)

383 That library superintendent job sounds tailor-made for a Navy Chief, preferably of the topside/electronics persuasion. they can manage people, can learn "management software", and have a passing familiarity (and ability to learn) with HVAC, power, and other support systems.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 17, 2016 02:54 PM (l7VAC)

384 Okay, first lines.

"The old woman sat by the side of the bed watching her husband die."

Posted by: JTB at July 17, 2016 02:55 PM (V+03K)

385 First line in The Martian:

I'm pretty much fcuked.

Posted by: waelse1 at July 17, 2016 03:02 PM (kZFjr)

386 If this sounds like your kind of thing, it's available on Amazon for $ 0.01.

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H.D Woodard, you buried the lede!

Posted by: @votermom at July 17, 2016 04:29 PM (7lVbc)

387 "That's all the poor are good for to the left."


... and increasingly for the Right (or what is called "Right")

let's face the facts, the ENTIRE Ruling Class hates the public

Posted by: Shoey at July 17, 2016 05:08 PM (vA94g)

388 Reading "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up" by Marie Kondo. Looks like a short read. Not too thick, small page size.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 17, 2016 05:52 PM (g25eU)

389 First lines:

I never thought this would happen to me but . . . .

Every Penthouse Forum letter ever published.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 17, 2016 05:54 PM (Nwg0u)

390 Posted by: WeBoned! at July 17, 2016 01:11 PM (SOVQ
Truth in unusual places? Daughter's farrier told her six months ago that he was convinced Obama and the libs would stage some horrible events that would be used as the pretext for Obama to declare martial law, cancel elections because "if it saves one life", and remain in office until "calm" was restored! At the time this seemed far-fetched, now, however...
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2016 01:19 PM (wYnyS)

Glenn Beck recently recounted a convo he had with a couple BLM marchers (!) and a black woman who is a "prayer warrior." They were all anti-Obama. In a big way.

Beck was stunned to hear them say the election wouldn't matter because it's "common knowledge" in the black community that Zero is not going anywhere and will declare martial law if he has to.

Posted by: RushBabe at July 17, 2016 05:55 PM (OJKE+)

391 Yuimetal @#134----Thread winner

Posted by: Semilitterate at July 17, 2016 06:17 PM (0Hh86)

392 "Jackie ran interference for her kid all her life. He was constantly getting favoritism at school and even while taking the bar exam. "
Bruce With a Wang!
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If I recall correctly, John-John required tutors and three attempts to pass the bar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2016 07:13 PM (RrDm2)

393 If I recall correctly, John-John required tutors and three attempts to pass the bar.

So, a "himbo."

Posted by: RushBabe at July 17, 2016 10:23 PM (OJKE+)

394 [38] I've just begun reading Summoned by Iddo Tavory. It's about the Jewish Orthodox community in Hollywood / West Los Angeles and how it survives - thrives - surrounded by a totally alien contemporary LA.

A bit heavy on the sociobabble (the author is a sociologist at UCLA) but an enjoyable read about the neighborhood where I grew up. Some Orthodox kids were my childhood friends. And for us Christians, I'm hoping to find some survival strategies we might wish to copy as our situation becomes similar.
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I live in that area and I don't see the Orthodox Jews having problems surviving. Can't believe someone bothered to write a book on this.

Posted by: microcosme at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (8QCtS)

395 Saying "Hi" in order to join the goodreads group.

Posted by: Elena at July 18, 2016 01:10 PM (SWGHZ)

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