Defense Secretary Ash Carter: We Might Be Going Back to Fight in Combat in Iraq Again (and Syria Too)

Obama fails. It's what he does.


Obama has once again proven the long-known wisdom -- of which he was ignorant, and when it was told to him, he jeered at it, because it conflicted with his "new" thinking -- that the surest way to waste men's lives in pointless warfare is to adopt a craven, cowering position and invite aggression.

All hail the Eternal Failure and Bringer of Destruction, Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Obama.

They are resorting to Orwellian double-speak to not call it combat, because, of course, Obama declared the end of combat action in Iraq, and Obama is a vain and weak man who mistakes himself for a god.

So they're calling it "direct action on the ground."

Like that soldier who died when entering, um, a hostile non-permissive environment. Totally different from "combat."

An American service member was fatally shot during a U.S. Special Forces raid to rescue 70 hostages--some chained to a wall--in an ISIS compound in central Iraq. The death marks the first U.S. combat death since its withdrawal from Iraq in 2011. And it calls into question President Obama’s repeated promises that "American combat troops are not going to be fighting in Iraq again."

Even after the raid, Pentagon officials, who once insisted there were no American boots on the ground, continued to call the U.S. effort a "train, advise and assist" mission, not a combat one. It marked the latest game of military semantics in a war defined as much by its messaging as by its tactical results.

At a briefing with reporters, Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said the U.S. military was "not in an active combat mission" in Iraq. Cook repeatedly called the raid "unique" but refused to say whether the U.S. military had conducted similar mission before this one or whether anyone in the Iraqi government had asked for similar help in the past.

Rather he said Secretary of Defense Ash Carter approved putting U.S. troops in harm's way because the Kurdish forces asked for raid and because both Kurdish and U.S. forces believed hostages had recently been killed; more could die within hours, they feared.

...

To be sure, Special Forces are deployed in combat missions in areas officially considered non-combat areas. But until Thursday, the Obama administration had never suggested that those elite troops were exempt [from] how the U.S. defines it mission in Iraq. But White House spokesman Eric Schultz did just that Thursday, saying there are several unique missions in Iraq: "We have also delineated several types of operations that would be permitted under the President’s directive. That includes the train and advise and assist program. That includes Special Operations forces. That includes humanitarian rescues. And that includes counterterrorism missions."

Maybe Sgt. Joshua Wheeler died in a Workplace Violence Event.

Posted by: Ace at 01:21 PM




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1 Oh, die in a fire.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:22 PM (F26eZ)

2 Let's not.

Posted by: HH at October 28, 2015 01:22 PM (DrCtv)

3 It won't be combat combat.

Posted by: Whoopi Cushion at October 28, 2015 01:23 PM (FkBIv)

4 I'm the new willow.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 01:23 PM (C3E0x)

5 What did the banner say in that GWB pic on an aircraft carrier that the Dems went crazy over?

Someone needs to photoshop O into that one, for sure.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:23 PM (NOIQH)

6 "...that the surest way to waste men's lives in pointless warfare is to adopt a craven, cowering position and invite aggression."

In Obama's defense, he doesn't care!

Posted by: gewa76 at October 28, 2015 01:23 PM (S9rS1)

7 This is like saying we should have gone back into Vietnam in 1977.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:24 PM (F26eZ)

8 He actually made a graphic for himself? ....?

Posted by: sunny-dee at October 28, 2015 01:24 PM (YE6fT)

9 I ended the war In Iraq before I started it.

Posted by: Obama at October 28, 2015 01:24 PM (wrS2o)

10 So....just muscular enough to not be mocked? Again?
Or is this leading from behind?
Or strategic non-patience?


The Obama doctrine is what now?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:24 PM (NOIQH)

11 Will our soldiers receive "direct action on the ground" pay?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 28, 2015 01:24 PM (FkBIv)

12 Can't we just go back to ignoring Afghanistan now?

Posted by: andycanuck at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (7+WUk)

13
We can still call it war. He just promised to end THAT war, which was evil and wrong.

THIS war is totes legit. Totes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (o98Jz)

14 So wishful thinking doesn't work in the real world.




Oh crap, that just makes everything so much more complicated.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (AC0lD)

15 I want two bumper stickers, parroting Ace's line above.

Left side: All Hail the Eternal Failure and Bringer of Destruction

Right: Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Hussein Obama

And in the middle: Frack You!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (U6f54)

16 "direct action on the ground."



Extra shooty stuff.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (LA7Cm)

17 Eff that noise!

Orbit, nuke, some assembly required.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (JOG+K)

18 So. If we go back in, does Bush get blamed?

Haha, yeah, of course it's his fault.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (F26eZ)

19 you are SO motivated by racism for attacking our wise and caring President!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Rattlesnake VT at October 28, 2015 01:25 PM (qSIlh)

20 The Obama doctrine is what now?

To get elected, then re-elected. Great success!

Posted by: gewa76 at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (S9rS1)

21 Will it be kinetic?

Posted by: Blue Hen who predicted that the Libyan stunt would be a disaster at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (326rv)

22 As usual, Obola's promise comes with an expiration date.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (H/5vA)

23 I was pro-invasion in '03. Saddam was acting as if he had WMD, I bought into the neocon argument that we could prop up a decent middle class country in the Mid East to serve as a beacon for all of the good things and all that.

It didn't work. I recognize that. There was at least a purpose, a reason to do it.

What is the current purpose?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (JtwS4)

24 If Jeb were SecDef he'd say "I'm heading to my parents house to try to figure out a new strategy!"

Posted by: Drop Kick Muslim Truckers at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (LISuA)

25 This effort will be unbelievably small. Like my penis.

Posted by: John Kerry at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (sspT/)

26 'direct action on the ground'

isn't that what the street protesters do out on the west coast?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 01:26 PM (OsxVm)

27 Beautiful, Ace. Says so much, by saying so little. That's art.

Thanks.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (3dOE/)

28

Hey Barry!
boots on the ground, boots on the ground
lookin' like a fool with your boots on the ground

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (wAQA5)

29 >>He actually made a graphic for himself? ....?


Nope. Organizing for Obama, his ongoing campaign org, has always managed his official WH twitter account. Now they're a "non-partisan" 501c org --- still managing his twitter feed.
Makes perfect sense, right?
Having a campaign org do all your official WH messages via twitter, and then a "non-partisan" group. Instead of, you know, someone from the WH press office. *headslap*

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (NOIQH)

30 And I want the candidates tonight to talk above Harwood no matter what he asks:

Barack Hussein Obama promised to end all wars, but look where we are. I promise to get us out of Iraq and to get us out of Syria!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (U6f54)

31 we all know that this wouldn't have happened if that lovely Ms Pelosi was still the Speaker of the House! The republicans just want our President to fail!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Rattlesnake VT at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (qSIlh)

32 No, no, no... that was "The War in Iraq". This is "The War in Iraq and Syria". Totally different thing.

Posted by: Ginwis at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (nACXe)

33 I think the current purpose is ISIS raping and pillaging its way across the ME.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (F26eZ)

34 Meanwhile, pulling naval and air forces out of the Gulf. This will end well.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 01:27 PM (mbuvg)

35 "What is the current purpose?"



Obama butt-hurt.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 28, 2015 01:28 PM (LA7Cm)

36 Pentagon officials, who once insisted there were no American boots on
the ground, continued to call the U.S. effort a "train, advise and
assist" mission, not a combat one


GLWT


Posted by: MACV - SOG at October 28, 2015 01:28 PM (0dcbp)

37  I'm the new willow.

Posted by: Blano
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I'm sorry, you pathetic db. I f*cking identified as willow before you were even aware of the problem. I deserve another award for this, bitch.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (MmVtG)

38 I don't care what they effing call it. JUST WIN!

Dump the lawyers and send in the military and JUST WIN!

Posted by: PJ at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (cHuNI)

39 You gotta admit, boots on the ground will be the biggest Aspirin factory of them all.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (F26eZ)

40 How long does it take to put Wheeler up for the Medal of Honor?



From what I have read, which could be nothing but propaganda, he deserves it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (jJRIy)

41 this only goes to show that if Bush knew anything about foreign policy he would have left Saddam alone and would have overthrown Khaddaffy and Mubarak!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Rattlesnake VT at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (qSIlh)

42 I am deeply saddened and, err, disappointed that the world has once again let me down.

Posted by: BHO at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (FohCt)

43 Obozo can analyze the NBA but the Middle East hurts his head. Who knew it would be so hard?

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (PvCxa)

44 >>What is the current purpose?


"In your face, Putin!!"?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (NOIQH)

45 I'm glad my son walked away. He didn't want to, but it was the right call. This CiC will get them all killed, then explain it away saying it wasn't really "WAR-war".

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (dFi94)

46 Why is he doing this? Seriously?
I think Putin got under his skin and so he trying to prove that he has balls.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (EdhH3)

47 Is it just me or does it feel like Obama was forced to do this by Putin?

I'd rather Obama make a decision to pull out of the middle east or to be involved.

But he seems to go back and forth.

Posted by: Harun at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (UBBWX)

48 If troops are sent into Iraq and Syria, won't that piss off our only offical new, bestest ally Iran?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (mbuvg)

49 Good thing we didn't die for nothing.

Oh wait...

Posted by: OIF's 4,491 dead at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (RZQNw)

50 What's next! GM dead? Bin Laden alive?

The world has gone topsy-turvy.

Posted by: Drop Kick Muslim Truckers at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (LISuA)

51


'Mission Accomplished'

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (0dcbp)

52 Who could have seen this coming?

*taps fingers on desk while waiting for extensive list of names to be delivered*


Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (2oWD2)

53 Obama, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia.

Posted by: Vizzini at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (3dOE/)

54 guerra ?


No. Accion directa sobre el terreno.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (JtwS4)

55 Sec. Def. Ash(ole) Carter.

What is it with that last name and abject failure?

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (JOG+K)

56 >>I'm glad my son walked away. He didn't want to, but it was the right
call. This CiC will get them all killed, then explain it away saying it
wasn't really "WAR-war".


Or worse, say "Yeah, I never really bought into it; I knew it would fail." like he recently did on 60 Minutes.

Glad your son is out, grammie!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (NOIQH)

57 So, is dissent patriotic now or not?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (F26eZ)

58 Lest we forget -- the Iraq War ended BEFORE OBAMA EVEN TOOK OFFICE:

http://www.zombietime.com/vi_day/

Read the article (published November, 200. I prove beyond any dispute that the war in iraq was over at that point, and that we had won.

I was not aware of Obama's "I ended the IRaq War" tweet in 2012. Absolutely infuriating.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (jBuUi)

59 my son has expressed interest in the military. he keeps asking me about my service, and has even said that he wanted to be a Marine, like i was/am.

I've been trying to dissuade him.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (326rv)

60 That is, " published November, 2008 ".

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (jBuUi)

61 46
Why is he doing this? Seriously?

I think Putin got under his skin and so he trying to prove that he has balls.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (EdhH3)


That's the only Obama rationale that makes sense. Leading from behind.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (3dOE/)

62 Barry, I'm in your head... you punk ass bitch...

Posted by: Whispering Putin at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (2oWD2)

63 Defense Secretary Ash Carter: We Might Be Going Back to Fight in Combat in Iraq Again (and Syria Too)


Now I can safely leave the presidential race; my work here is done.

Posted by: Senator Lindsey Graham at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (LISuA)

64 >>>and Obama is a vain and weak man who mistakes himself for a god.

It's always a grotesque, sorry spectacle when vain, weak men mistake themselves for that which they are not.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:32 PM (MmVtG)

65 57 So, is dissent patriotic now or not?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:31 PM (F26eZ)

Of course not. It's only patriotic when the CiC is a Republican.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (2Ojst)

66 Troll status: Total Success

Posted by: Vlad P. at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (0dcbp)

67 What is it that DOD knows that we don't that require US Combat troops in Iraq? Syria?

Who are we fighting in Iraq/Syria?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (OsxVm)

68 Policing Iraq and Syria is a lot like policing Baltimore, except the cops and republicans are ISIS, or something.

Posted by: King Barry of the Gilded Putter at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (3tjn4)

69 Once again, I demand to know the exit strategy!!!



What?

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (326rv)

70 59: "I've been trying to dissuade him."

I've counseled my youngest to go Navy, do his four, and get out.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (4nmNX)

71 "I'd rather Obama make a decision to pull out of the middle east or to be involved. "


And, if involved, be committed to winning. Not the half-hearted, weak-kneed mainly for PR BS we've been up to for the last few years.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (LA7Cm)

72 >>'Mission Accomplished'


Posted by: Mortimer


Yes, that's the one!!

I know that the banner was for that particular carrier's tour, not Bush's Iraq war mission being accomplished, but....can you ever imagine Obama saying "Mission accomplished!"?

He would first have to define the mission, other than it being some political blah blah to get up his poll numbers or squirrel!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (NOIQH)

73 re 57: depends on whether it's that terrible Trump person or our wonderful progressive Senator Sanders.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Rattlesnake VT at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (qSIlh)

74 These stupid, half-assed, responses of his to most everything have really worn me out.

He'll send his flying monkeys up our asses for liking a type of ammo he doesn't, but he'll tinkerfuck around in the ME after losing all the gains we'd made over the past decade.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (F26eZ)

Posted by: Code Pink at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (0dcbp)

Posted by: Human Shields at October 28, 2015 01:34 PM (0dcbp)

77 So they're calling it "direct action on the ground."

I guess "man-made destruction by the Nobel savage" lost out by a couple of votes ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 01:34 PM (zc3Db)

78 Direct action on the ground, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing.
Say it again.
Direct action on the ground, good God, y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing...

Posted by: Edwin Starr at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (lqmAz)

79 It's easy to "end" a war by walking away from it if you're okay with the subsequent defeat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (8ZskC)

80 I think Putin got under his skin and so he trying to prove that he has balls.


Posted by: L, Elle


Putin was not impressed by that video of Obama's 8 pound dumbbell workout.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (2oWD2)

81 I miss human shields. They were always the people I would miss the least in life.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (iQIUe)

82
Michelle: "You know, Barry, you really are a f*ckup."

Barry: "Shut up, Michelle."

Michelle: "No, you shut up, and get those ofay staff members of yours in line. I'm going to lunch with Val, and by the time I get back, I want Gitmo closed , you got that?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (9mTYi)

83 "They are resorting to Orwellian double-speak to not call it combat,
because, of course, Obama declared the end of combat action in Iraq, and
Obama is a vain and weak man who mistakes himself for a god. So they're calling it 'direct action on the ground.'"

I will briefly remind you all that recourse to elaborate linguistic contortionism on this subject is nothing new for Obama in these matters. It is a time-honored tradition for him.

It was the Obama administration which when it started bombing the blazes out of Libya without Congressional authorization (or asking the Nobel Peace Prize committee), described the process of dropping explosive warheads on soldiers who were shooting back as being not combat in war, but instead as a "time-limited scope-limited military activity". A "kinetic" activity, no less.

Except that, well, the fighting in Libya which the bombing helped kick off has hardly been "time-limited". It is progressing with increasing ugliness and ferocity to this very day. Nor was that fighting "scope-limited". It's spilling over borders, too. It is, however, HIGHLY "kinetic". Give them that point.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (noWW6)

84 51



'Mission Accomplished'


Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:30 PM (0dcbp)


More like 'Mission Demolished'


Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (3dOE/)

85 re 69: It all comes down to a nine letter word: Stratergy!

Posted by: Joe Biden and not mallfly at all at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (qSIlh)

Posted by: Bruce Springsteen at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (0dcbp)

87 I hate these bastards so much. Hey Barky, how about we send you to the meat grinder instead? That's all it will be. A goal without a strategy is a wish, you mother f'er.

Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (GgxVX)

88 Our poor troops. They must all want to AWOL. So many more will die being led by a CiC and generals who don't care about them or any desire to actually be victorious.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (EdhH3)

Posted by: Michael Moore at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (0dcbp)

90 O/T

Just a note about fired SC cop. His boss, Sheriff Lott is a democrat.



Richland Co, SC? 47% Black. Looks like he knows how to get reelected.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (jJRIy)

91
Since anything Barry touches turns to shit... what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (wAQA5)

92 75
Posted by: Code Pink at October 28, 2015 01:33 PM (0dcbp)

76
Posted by: Human Shields at October 28, 2015 01:34 PM (0dcbp)


Threadwinners!

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (jBuUi)

93 >>>What is it that DOD knows that we don't that require US Combat troops in Iraq? Syria?

An interesting point. Maybe there is something truly awful going on that the public doesn't know about.

Personally, though, I think this is just random, pure incompetence.

Posted by: Max Power at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (QCc6B)

94 I used to engage teenage boys in some of that direct action on the ground. Yeah.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at October 28, 2015 01:36 PM (u5gzz)

95
Who are we fighting in Iraq/Syria?

--

Russia, Assad, and Iran.

Our new enemies in the region are Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Israel, who are all aligned against Assad.
Our new ally in the region, Iran, who we will be fighting, is supporting ISIS, Hezbollah, and the PLO.

I hope that clarifies things.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 01:37 PM (mbuvg)

96 Geez, I thought that the Obama administration bullshit term de jour was "man caused overseas contingency".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 28, 2015 01:37 PM (Sda6L)

97 No Blood For Oil!









you fckers.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:37 PM (0dcbp)

98 Followed by direct action in the air and direct action on the sea.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 28, 2015 01:37 PM (FkBIv)

99 Dump the lawyers and send in the military and JUST WIN!


Posted by: PJ at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (cHuNI)
======================================

They will not win. They are cannon fodder. The ROE are ridiculous. They can't fight with this - they can't fight with that. They can't fight in a box - they can't fight with a fox. Childish, I know. But so is the CiC. He does not see our soldiers as men with a mission. He sees them as "how can I use them to win the next 24 hour news cycle". He will get them killed. And then he will lie about it and make a mockery of their deaths. They know he does not have their backs. They know when they go over, they are on their own in enemy territory with one hand tied behind their backs and basically subject to Sharia law WITH NO HELP from either State, the Pentagon, or the CiC. Do not send them. Do NOT.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (dFi94)

100 I'm sorry, you pathetic db. I f*cking identified as willow before you were even aware of the problem. I deserve another award for this, bitch.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:29 PM (MmVtG)

I would consider complaining to ace about this attack on my good name, but I'd have to stop giggling first.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (C3E0x)

101 "President Obama kept his promise to end the war in Iraq"



Yeah. But there are two ways to end a war: winning it, and losing it, and one is considerably easier than the other.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (oKE6c)

102 I fill BO with "direct action" every night.

Posted by: Reggie at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (F26eZ)

103 95

Who are we fighting in Iraq/Syria?


At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: The Hillabeast, duck they are shooting at us at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (jJRIy)

104 My son returned from his first Afghanistan deployment a little over a year ago. He's seriously considering reenlisting since he's recently successfully boarded for his Sergeant's stripes and is guaranteed E-6 in two years if he reenlists. He loves the infantry, loves being a soldier.

Jake's a grown man. It's his decision. I'm an infantryveteran myself but it's all I can do not to beg him to get the hell out of the Army before the weak and feckless Obama gets him and hundreds of other people's sons and daughters wounded or killed.

Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (cCEFD)

105 Even after the raid, Pentagon officials, who once insisted there were no American boots on the ground, continued to call the U.S. effort a "train, advise and assist" mission, not a combat one.

Hey, hey, Barry O, how many kids will you force to go!

Posted by: Lyndon Johnson at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (8ZskC)

106 Nothing will happen.

The pretending game will just keep going. We have to do a lot of pretending with this guy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (4ErVI)

107 BIDEN IN 2010: IRAQ WILL BE 'ONE OF THE GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS' OF THIS ADMINISTRATION

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (XUKZU)

108 Obama doesn't want to defeat ISIS or even fight them. He just want to make look like he cares and that he's not a wimp.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (No/ki)

109 Threadwinners!

Posted by: zombie


High praise coming from you.


I just don't feel like much of winner right now.

My son just made sergeant.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (0dcbp)

110 I'd ask all the candidates this: you have bitterly criticized the Obama Syria strategy for months and even years. Do you feel some vindication, now that you've been proved right? Does this failure exemplify the results Obama has achieved generally in foreign and domestic affairs?

Posted by: Questions John Harwood Will Never Ask at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (LISuA)

111 I have a direct action on the ground every time I go camping.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (wAQA5)

112 Yah. Pulls us out of Iraq in 2011 after much dithering, and in so doing lights up a much larger war involving the entire Middle East. and Russia. Heckufajob, Barry. You done well and truly earned that Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: Bill H at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (Baojj)

113 To put it in full Geico ad form:

"When you're Obama, you fail. It's what you do."

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (2mC6G)

114 Sending prayers for the troops and to for once relieve the ROE.

Posted by: FCF at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (kejii)

115 If they do go back in, it won't be to win. Rather, it will be to do just enough to salvage Obama's wounded pride. Putin has humiliated him.

Why send soldiers anywhere to do anything for that purpose?

God bless the troops and all that, but if I were them, I'd not be interested in signing up to risk life and limb merely to cover King Barry's smacked ass.

Posted by: Hollowjoint at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (yvwr7)

116 Suggested book titles for Obama's foreign policy:

"Dielectric Kinetics" or "Dianectics"

Posted by: derit at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (jT+gh)

117 88,

Not like they'll get any better treatment when they get out.

Stay in, get out, makes no diff.

But hey, they get three years of identity/credit monitoring if they have ever had a security clearance, so there's that.

Posted by: Vets everywhere at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (RZQNw)

118 I ended the war in Japan.

Posted by: Emperor Hirohito at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (FkBIv)

119 This is the "just muscular enough to not be laughed at" strategy, right?

Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (GgxVX)

120 An interesting point. Maybe there is something truly awful going on that the public doesn't know about.

Personally, though, I think this is just random, pure incompetence.



IOW, Wednesday.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (H/5vA)

121 Chickenshit Turd puts troops on the ground from a military that he had diminished, demoralized, and purged the good officers from and then wants to fight ISIS and the allies of Russia.


I am sure this will be hugely successful just like all his other foreign policy crap. And if we actually had an opposition Party they would invoke the war powers act and ask him where we have been directly challenged at. And tell him he only gets 60 days before he has to go to congress.


But due to Obama being an idiot, the Republicans being gutless assholes who only answer to the chamber of congress the ignorant bastard is going to stumbler us into WWIII with the Russians.


Time for an Art V convention, maybe the States can impeach the sorry SOB before he destroys the world.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (t2KH5)

122 well, I for one have our President's back, because I know he'd have my back if I had one.

Posted by: Joe Biden and not mallfly at all at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (qSIlh)

123 This is not Presdent Obama's fault. Bush started this illegal war ..............

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (EIFYf)

124 Going back into Iraq is like my vagina; big, hairy, and smelly.

Posted by: Germaine Greer at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (sI4OA)

125 "Direct action on the ground" leaves the door open to resupplying and feeding the ISIS troops.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (2oWD2)

126 Halp us Jon Karry or wheel git stuk in Irak... and Seeria now two!

Posted by: poor unejumacated soljers at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (lqmAz)

127 It will all be fun and limited, useless airstrikes and on the ground "training" until ISIS captures one of our guys. And then, I suspect the Jordanian pilot snuff film will look like child's play.

And Obama will be out golfing when it hits the news/internet.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (NOIQH)

128 Time for an Art V convention

Oh good! We want the freedom from unwanted male gaze amendment!

Posted by: Third Wave Feminists at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM (2Ojst)

129 Testosterone is the problem. No men, no violence. Mandatory sex changes or you get no US aid.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (MmVtG)

130 C'mon, MSM, doesn't this rate a "grim milestone?" Just one? Own up: the Magic Negro f*cked up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (oKE6c)

131 M Sgt. Joshua Wheeler went through training with friends of mine. He was the consummate quiet professional and will be dearly missed.

And it's M SGT. Joshua Wheeler.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (GGCsk)

132 OT but the Navy's doing some stupid "energy security" program now about reporting using too much heating and cooling or "over-lighting".

So, maybe I'd rethink that sending your kids into the Navy thing...

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (F26eZ)

133
As we already know His main function of our military is to undermine its strength financially and use it as a political tool box for the Lefts current PC cmmunity.
I am not in agreement wth sending more of our troops at small -sh enough increments that they are more liekly to be used as Targets .
I don't want to lose one more soul to this administration if it hasn't the heart to win against the frakish terrorists of the ME.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (nqBYe)

134 If they do go back in, it won't be to win. Rather, it will be to do just
enough to salvage Obama's wounded pride.


"Just muscular enough not to get mocked"?
*spit*

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (vn2q2)

135 Whatever happened to Overseas Contingency Operations?

I really miss that one.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (zc3Db)

136 My son just made sergeant.


Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:39 PM (0dcbp)
===========================

That's a good thing. Your son is a good man. It's not his fault that the CiC is a piece of shit.


Excuse my French.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (dFi94)

137 >>> Putin was not impressed by that video of Obama's 8 pound dumbbell workout.
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (2oWD2)
------
Ha! I forgot about that workout video. I need to watch it again so I can laugh at that worthless weakling.

Seriously, this is so sad for our troops. They are dealing with an even more vicious enemy now with one hand tied behind their backs. It will be Black Hawk Down over and over again if any of our troops get captured. I am so sad about this.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (EdhH3)

138 A very nice spanking, Ace. I can't make good snark any more about the Stammering Clusterfuck in Chief. All that comes out is spittle and cursing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (rwI+c)

139 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_military_action

Now direct action.

What's next?

Are we gonna have lively contests? Intense fretting? Brisk encounters.


Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (3dOE/)

140 So, our troops will be shot at by a minimum of 3 factions?

Yes, I see this working out well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (w/iDp)

141 This time we'll have enough helicopters to get everyone off the embassy roof.

Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (8ZskC)

142 Experienced infantry NCOs will be in great demand during the burning times in upscale neighborhoods organizing the neighborhood self defense irregular militia. Probably better pay and working conditions too.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (OsxVm)

143 How badly has Obama failed the world?

Take a look at the South China Sea, and take a look at China's claims and the islands that she is building. What she is claiming is absurd. It would be like, literally, the USA claiming sovereignty of the whole Caribbean, except for 12-mile slices of coastline. It would be like us blocking the Panama Canal to free travel.

The S. China Sea is a major ocean-way for a huge amount of commerce. Not only from the region, and not only from the extended region (like Japan and Australia and S. Korea), but globally. Oil and goods from the mideast and Europe and the Americas. They all pour through that region.

And China wants to block it all. To own it.

Reagan, Clinton, either Bush... heck, even Carter and Ford would have been able - easily - to rally the world, with the possible exception of Russia, to oppose this. Large task forces of ships from every NATO nation, every SEATO nation, and even Mexico and Chile would be there.

China would back down, and rightfully so. What they are demanding is absurd.

But Barack Obama has alienated the whole world. His incompetence is near total... and now the USN, and the USN alone, with a bit of help from Japan, which only pisses China off more, are standing alone.

This could actually turn into a shooting war. With China, one of our largest trade partners as well as a foe that we certainly do not want to have ground combat with.

Why?

Because, as a people, we hired a SCOAMF. We hired Chauncey Gardner as POTUS, and are now surprised that all he knows how to do is grow roses...

Posted by: RobM1981 at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (zurJC)

144 "I'm glad my son walked away. He didn't want to, but it was the right
call. This CiC will get them all killed, then explain it away saying it
wasn't really 'WAR-war'."

I remember the 1970s hippie bumper sticker which said,

"Join the military. Travel to exotic, distant places. Meet exciting, unusual people. And kill them."

The modern updated version of which would have to be enlarged. And which would read,

"Join the military. If you win your battles, watch the gains for which you paid in blood then be casually given away. If you lose your battles due to crazy rules of engagement, expect to be blamed for the failure. Because there ain't no way this President is accepting that he screwed up on anything."

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (noWW6)

145
I miss human shields. They were always the people I would miss the least in life.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM



It isn't as glamorous as you'd think. Sometimes you can get stretched pretty thin.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at October 28, 2015 01:43 PM (O2jYw)

146 Who wants to be the last soldier to die for a muzzie communist dickbag?

Wait, wut?

Posted by: John Kerry at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (u5gzz)

147 Well, at least by bringing the gender-open, army purged of all experienced leadership, the Iraqis will know how to accessorize by the time we leave.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (2mC6G)

148 That's a good thing. Your son is a good man. It's not his fault that the CiC is a piece of shit.
Excuse my French.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:42 PM (dFi94)


Thank you. Sincerely.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (0dcbp)

149
not one more soul! to be used as fodder for Idological purpose not American.
we do't know Why those people were saved instead of the thousanads we've been watching Die for the last several years.

as they don't clearly specify we are going to fkk them up until they lose their will to lop off everyone they don't likes head.
Just fk that.

fk it.
no more of Our souls fighting for____?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (nqBYe)

150 Oh, and the logo for the Navy energy bullshit looks almost exactly like O's logo.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (F26eZ)

151 Shithead never closed Gitmo.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (Hp+ZP)

152 Going back into Iraq is like my vagina; big, hairy, and smelly.

Posted by: Germaine Greer

---

Your vagina is a recursive definition of yourself, you ersatz-human chimp.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (MmVtG)

153 Time for an Art V convention, maybe the States can impeach the sorry SOB before he destroys the world.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 01:40 PM (t2KH5)

One can hope, but there is a better chance of monkeys flying out of our asses.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (w/iDp)

154 What if they gave a war and nobody went?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (XUKZU)

155 now surprised that all he knows how to do is grow roses...

Posted by: RobM1981

Nope. Obama would also fuck that up.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (2oWD2)

156 To Quote Starship Troopers "It does not matter what they call it, War, Police Action, or Limited Engagement. If you die, your dead."

Posted by: Picric at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (QnQ+g)

157 Is there a minimum body count for one to be considered a successful Nobel prize winner?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (mbuvg)

158 The administration is preparing the public for when we go in again. It will, however, be much worse than Iraq when Bush was president. Then, it was the US and its coalition inside Iraq with various insurgents and the Iranians staying low-visibility. Now, it is spread over a couple of countries with many players openly in the field, including an aggressive and hostile Russia.

With Bush a slip up could be fixed with an apology and a check; with Obama a slip-up will be fixed by spreading the war wider and perhaps a direct firing-on with Russia. Could Democrats please tell us about that "Smart Power" stuff again? I like fairy tales.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

159 "Take a look at the South China Sea, and take a look at China's claims
and the islands that she is building. What she is claiming is absurd.
It would be like, literally, the USA claiming sovereignty of the whole
Caribbean, except for 12-mile slices of coastline. It would be like us
blocking the Panama Canal to free travel."

If you closely read the wording of the articles in the Chinese state media (not often translated and repeated in the West), what the PRC are asserting is that essentially the entirety of the South China Sea is an "inland waterway" of China's.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 01:46 PM (noWW6)

160 Obama will do a half-assed job, the bare minimum, like he's been doing w/the Syria air strikes for 1+ year (resulting in what, exactly?).
When he knows full well that if he unleashed the full power of the US military, ISIS could be seriously damaged.

*That's* what make me so mad. All the people who will die simply because Obama is trying to play it both ways - "direct action" but not a war-war..

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 01:46 PM (NOIQH)

161
The bear is loose! And he's going to take a direct action on the ground.
Watch where you step.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 01:46 PM (wAQA5)

162 Oh good! We want the freedom from unwanted male gaze amendment!
Posted by: Third Wave Feminists at October 28, 2015 01:41 PM


A burqa will take care of that problem for you, and a lot cheaper and easier than a national political convention.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 01:46 PM (OsxVm)

163 I'd have a conscientious objection to this one if I were brave enough (and young enough!) to serve. WTF is the plan or the goal? To not look like a cavernous vagina to Putin? Too late.

Posted by: Ben Franklin, stopping by for a visit from the past at October 28, 2015 01:47 PM (a+WIL)

164 They should avoid wars. There may not be welcomed back into this country when they are done fighting Wars for Satan's racist Apartheid children in the Levant.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:47 PM (Hp+ZP)

165 If we go in again, President Boyfriend will be Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:47 PM (F26eZ)

166 I suppose Obama (his advisors, I mean) decided that shit was about to get 10X heavier over in the Mideast, and it would happen on his watch. Collapse of nations, ever-spreading wars, etc. So he's going to try to sow complication/confusion as a temporary stopgap to help occupy the vacuum he created, hoping to slow the course of events, but not stop them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 01:47 PM (2cS/G)

167 Jake's a grown man. It's his decision. I'm an
infantryveteran myself but it's all I can do not to beg him to get the
hell out of the Army before the weak and feckless Obama gets him and
hundreds of other people's sons and daughters wounded or killed.

Posted by: troyriser


Getting dusty in here. Gonna go take a walk.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:47 PM (0dcbp)

168 Once President Hillary! takes over, there will be no more strategic fuck ups. But just now, check WZ, a number of Hillary staffers managed to lock themselves in the ladies' wymyn's room.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:48 PM (XUKZU)

169 Gaylord has turned Iraq into Vietnam. Way to go Barky.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 01:48 PM (tZOdt)

170 L* good to see you, hope your nerves are calming down .

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:48 PM (nqBYe)

171 Why waste time discussing this... Don't You know there are more important things in the World like White cops beating up defenseless little black girls?

Posted by: donna at October 28, 2015 01:48 PM (/dSsq)

172 Our troops en made should tear up their deployment orders on the White House lawn and refuse to go. I dare that motherfucker or any D and R to go after our soldiers. They don't have the guts of backbone and know how bad it would look to the American public.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (EdhH3)

173 Does Putin $hit in the woods?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (Hp+ZP)

174 Our poor troops. They must all want to AWOL. So many more will die being led by a CiC and generals who don't care about them or any desire to actually be victorious.

And he vetoed the defense appropriation bill AND they are cutting the army again.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (326rv)

175 I think we can safely make a couple predictions about this Kinetic Ground-Boot Reshuffling Mission:

1. The MSM will either ignore it completely or praise it to the skies;

2. It will not be criticized, examined, or even noticed by anybody on the left;

3. Code Pink will be silent and have stinky vaginas.

Remember Fen's Law: The Left believes none of what it says.

Posted by: joncelli, Stalking the Night at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (RD7QR)

176 You trailer park red state racists have no idea what our historic first multiracial President goes through to rule you trash. Maybe he wouldn't have to carry out these actions if that retarded faux Texan cowboy from Connecticut hadn't declared war on half the world on behalf of Xtian Dominionists who illegally support the Zionist entity for profit.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (zfvHs)

177 Obama and Hillary pulled out of Iraq and in the process disregarded all the various studies and advice our military provided. This is exactly the way most of them stated this would end.

But don't note the failure, or the thousands of men they belittled and bypassed with their political quest. The hundreds of men who died, only to be told be Obama and Hillary it was for nothing and in "vain".

Somehow this is a...positive for Obama? Finally getting out of diapers and cutting some teeth?

Don't make me laugh. He's a calculating wimp who is cutting the military and just distinguished himself by being the first to shut down military funding with his veto of the Defense authorization Bill.

Him and that cackling, lying hag Hillary should be catching rotten cabbage in every town square across America. Yet the MSM cover their fat lying asses by lying some more for them.

More than anyone, I blame the dishonest propagandists in the media. This would neve happen if they brought the truth to LIV's.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (GGCsk)

178 104 I'm an infantryveteran myself but it's all I can do
not to beg him to get the hell out of the Army before the weak and
feckless Obama gets him and hundreds of other people's sons and
daughters wounded or killed.

Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2015 01:38 PM (cCEFD)

Obama will stumble into a war with Russia and get us all killed.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (t2KH5)

179 Maybe Sgt. Joshua Wheeler died in a Workplace Violence Event-ace

I suspect he will be blamed for his death

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (w/iDp)

180 Call me a traitor but I'd love to see Putin literally slap Preznit Bitch across the face.


What's the little bitch going to do about it?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (4ErVI)

181 146 Who wants to be the last soldier to die for a muzzie communist dickbag?

Wait, wut?
Posted by: John Kerry


I strongly disagree with your inclusion of the syllable "dick" in any summation of Obama's characteristics.

A more appropriate title would be "muzzie communist cunt."

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (jBuUi)

182 Congratulations to your son Mortimer.

Hopefully, he'll be more than a glorified babysitter.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (RZQNw)

183 See, ubama knows, because he reads and believes his koran, that any muslim killed doing jihad goes to paradise. So it's all good with him. Especially that part where he signs us over to the caliphate.

Posted by: Eromero at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (b+df9)

184 "What is a Pansy ?"

Posted by: Jeopardy Contestant at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (nCSwS)

185 LOL, Trump gets the presidential suit, Rand Paul gets the restroom. Hopefully they don't keep it open AS a restroom for the random passer by..

Posted by: OP at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (TzeLs)

186 132: "So, maybe I'd rethink that sending your kids into the Navy thing..."

The men of every generation of my family have served. At least as far back as any of us have record of.

Beyond being a family tradition, we tend to believe that each man owes a debt to his country. So until the Republic of Texas is reestablished, we're stuck with the nation we have.

I wouldn't advise making a career out of it, just do the four years and move on. Even with its problems, the U.S. Military is still one of the best places for young men to develop their independence and finish growing up.

The skills learned are a bonus that will serve them well in whatever future endeavors they enter.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (4nmNX)

187 No more half measures.

Posted by: Mike Ehrmantraut at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (S9rS1)

188 you know who I feel sorry for?

all the replacement americans the Administration is using the Obama-stash of cash the GOPe gave to him to use to pay them to come here.

They're going to be really bummed when this all blows up in their faces.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (ajMhd)

189 Your vagina is a recursive definition of yourself, you ersatz-human chimp.Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:44 PM (MmVtG

You wanna piece of me pencil dick? You're no more a woman than the entire east german women's swim team.

Posted by: Germaine Greer at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (sI4OA)

190
unless the Head of the country is open and clear abou tthe goals of war, We should just resoundly slap them for this.

what good is it to send Ours people to die when clarity is denied and will given to fight is limited?

Why allow us to die for no clarity of conviction from the Head of this country?
no-no-NO

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (nqBYe)

191 What is a Pansy ?

In the dictionary the definition is obama...

Posted by: donna at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (/dSsq)

192 What if they gave a war and nobody went?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (XUKZU)

---

Wouldn't that 'game' asshole the Russell Crowe portrayed disagree?

If no one showed up, it would be in the best interests of both sides to show up to win a phyrric victory. But if both sides show up, there will be war.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (MmVtG)

193 >>3. Code Pink will be silent and have stinky vaginas.
-------
No Obama being hung in effigy as Bush was? No Hitler mustaches on him? Oh that's right Moochelle has one of those

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (w/iDp)

194 Our poor troops. They must all want to AWOL. So many more will die being led by a CiC and generals who don't care about them or any desire to actually be victorious.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (EdhH3)

So why ARE they joining up then?

WHY are they still following orders? This whole "I'm serving my country" shit just doesn't fly anymore.

Today's soldiers aren't serving their country....they're serving an Empire run by elitist/mostly liberal scum who would kill every Christian and Conservative, and likely a lot of whites too if they thought they could get away with it.

If so many soldiers know what's going on is wrong, and unconstitutional, then why is there no rebellion against it?

I don't understand anymore.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (C3E0x)

195 Yeah, but if it's Obama's war it's totes okay. See?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (oDCMR)

196 Boner passed a two year budget on his way out of town.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:52 PM (Hp+ZP)

197 No Obama being hung in effigy as Bush was? No Hitler mustaches on him?

Actually I think some LaRouchies did the Obama with a Hitler mustache thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 28, 2015 01:52 PM (2Ojst)

198 3. Code Pink will be silent and have stinky vaginas.


And there will be no grim milestones.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 28, 2015 01:52 PM (HMt16)

199
What's the little bitch going to do about it?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2015 01:49 PM (4ErVI)

Sick Valerie on him.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:52 PM (w/iDp)

200 Congratulations to your son Mortimer.

Hopefully, he'll be more than a glorified babysitter.


Thank you.

He certainly is to me.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 01:52 PM (0dcbp)

201 Oh thanks, Willow. You are so sweet to ask..

I wish I was better. I'm worse. I'm scared to drive now. I am actually still in bed. I hate this. I used to love driving. I used to take long drives into the mountains to relax. I moved to CO because I've had a life long love affair with the mountains. Now, I hate the mountains, and want to move to Wyoming, the flat part.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (EdhH3)

202 "Direct Action on the Ground."

Who comes up with this shit?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (2XHX/)

203 And there will be no grim milestones.

any more have died under obamas"watch" and there have been no grim milestones have there?

Posted by: donna at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (/dSsq)

204 "Putin was not impressed by that video of Obama's 8 pound dumbbell workout."

Obola is the 80 pound dumbbell...

with sand being kicked in his face.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (mOvRk)

205 Well duh...

didn't that Soldier see the sign???

It was a Gun Free Zone!

Posted by: Lefty Leftowski at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (qh617)

206
35 "What is the current purpose?"



Obama butt-hurt.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 28, 2015 01:28 PM (LA7Cm)


I have a special purpose, pa!

Posted by: The Jerk President at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (yoVdb)

207 I seem to recall that Monty Python has a youtube video about 'direct action boots on the ground shuffle'. Seems like it's set to music.

My hearing is so bad, I can't make out the lyrics.

Wait, it was Martin Sheen in the movie 'colors'.

No, that's not it.

Maybe it was "Please Mister Custer, I don't want to go."

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (OsxVm)

208 No blood for dickbags.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (Hp+ZP)

209 It's easy to "end" a war by walking away from it if you're okay with the subsequent defeat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2015 01:35 PM (8ZskC)


It seems now that they aren't okay with the aftermath(s) of the subsequent defeat.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (hLRSq)

210 Well, at least by bringing the gender-open, army purged of all experienced leadership, the Iraqis will know how to accessorize by the time we leave.

-
Send in the transgender brigade!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (XUKZU)

211 Blano,

They have bills too. And families.

And considering the employment outlook once they get out...especially if they're in an MOS where their skills don't exactly translate to the civvie world.

As for those close to retirement, well...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (RZQNw)

212 Preznit Peace Prize wants to start the War of Love.

Let our drones kiss you!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (oVJmc)

213 Obama wants us to ignore that direct action in our mouths.

Posted by: Roy at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (VndSC)

214 Upon further reflection, from Iraq to Syria to Afghanistan to Libya; Gaylord has turned the Middle East into South-East Asia with Iran as North Vietnam. And the Russians are in the mix also.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (tZOdt)

215 grim milestones.

***

kudos to GOP contender that brings this up when Candy Crowly colludes with Hillary in debate #2 to say that Hillary always said Benghazi was terrorism.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (ajMhd)

216 Cry, "Havoc!" And let slip the dogs of direct action on the ground!





Mmmmm... dogs... **Homer Simpson hungry gurgling noise**

Posted by: Barack Antony at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (lqmAz)

217 Meanwhile, Trump is already calling tonight's CNBC debate "unfair."

What a wuss.

Nothing sharp, or tough, or hardnosed, or brilliant, or even quick, about this asshat.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (U6f54)

218 -
Send in the transgender brigade!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (XUKZU)

Chicks with Dicks for the Win!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (w/iDp)

219 Someone up with the twitter should associate the famous "Mission Accomplished" picture from the aircraft carrier with Obola's proclamation.

Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (S4sMa)

220 But the little "tussle" last week when We lost a Soldier wasn't an action...

Posted by: donna at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (/dSsq)

221 Shitty Wok tried to shoot down a U.S. aircraft.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (Hp+ZP)

222 We have also delineated several types of operations that would be permitted under the President's directive.....

In other news, pin-dancing angels have given up, and will no longer try to compete.

Posted by: pep at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (GMG6W)

223 Upon further reflection, from Iraq to Syria to Afghanistan to Libya; Gaylord has turned the Middle East into South-East Asia with Iran as North Vietnam. And the Russians are in the mix also.

***8

yeah, the world has gone to shit, the middle east is more violent and all the christians have been killed and and soon europe will be swallowed by the beggars army invading them

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (ajMhd)

224 Biden 2010: Iraq will be the greatest achievement of this administration.

http://tinyurl.com/n9woagn

Posted by: McCool at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (nCSwS)

225
L'elle, look, if i went through that i would definately analyze it to death as i'm that way.

But the end result was You were saved and therefore still Meant to be here, You have a purpose here . You are alive honey as you were meant to be.

i know it's stressful, painful and scary. But You are here and that to me means you have a srs purpose to exist.


love willow.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (nqBYe)

226
Now, I hate the mountains, and want to move to Wyoming, the flat part.

--

L'Elle, if you move to Eastern Wyoming, try to find a place to live where you can see the tree from your window. You know, the one tree in the entire region.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (mbuvg)

227 The Presidency of Epic Fail.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (Dwehj)

228 I'm glad that I got out of the Army back in 2012, even though I still miss it most weeks.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (OiH3z)

229 If so many soldiers know what's going on is wrong, and unconstitutional, then why is there no rebellion against it?



I don't understand anymore.





Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (C3E0x)
=========================================


I can't answer for anyone but our family. Our son felt is was his calling. He felt at the time that God wanted to place him in the military as a service to others. When I told him about my misgivings as to his safety, he told me "There is no place safer than in the center of God's will." After that I pretty much shut up about it.



Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (dFi94)

230
Sure, but he didn't put a sign on a ship....or something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (ODxAs)

231
"Direct Action on the Ground."

Who comes up with this shit?
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (2XHX/)
..................

Gotta be Psaki or Harf or some other military genius.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (wAQA5)

232 I don't get it. What has changed to make da Zero give a shit?

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (xWW96)

233 Hey, Azenogoth, I get it; I did 6 myself. But the Navy, as it stands, has a brutal optempo if you're a sea duty sailor. And the other shit doesn't really help.

What few shore billets there are get picked up by pregnant females, so there's that.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (F26eZ)

234
as for the jeep, maybe it should have flew off that cliff instead it Stopped half way.
Maybe it is really a good sign for that truck.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (nqBYe)

235 "What is a Pansy?"

Posted by: Jeopardy Contestant


A guy who can beat the ever-loving shit out of Barry Obama without even breaking a sweat could still be called a pansy.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (2oWD2)

236 The blimp is loose!

Posted by: Trash Carter at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (FkBIv)

237 Speaking of big, hairy, smelly, vagina's Huma loves to wash mine.

Posted by: The Hillabeast, duck they are shooting at us at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (jJRIy)

238 Ugh--I would not want to be Ash Carter, --look at the anguish on his face.

Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (mcm0N)

239 Direct Action on the Ground." Who comes up with this shit?
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (2XHX/)

So glad you asked...

Posted by: Mortimer Shindeckle, Assistant Undersecretary, Dept Of Euphemisms, Gobbelty-Gook, and Double-talk at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (cCEFD)

240 #PantsOnTheGround

Posted by: Marie Hork and Jen Psocki at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (Dwehj)

241 "Direct Action on the Ground."

Who comes up with this shit?
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (2XHX/)
..................

Gotta be Psaki or Harf or some other military genius.
Posted by: wth

Would you believe they shot down "midnight basketball"!?!

Posted by: Mitzi harf SoS spokeschick at October 28, 2015 01:59 PM (326rv)

242 Boots on the ground is archaic. Ballet slippers on the ground?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 01:59 PM (Hp+ZP)

243 240 #PantsOnTheGround
Posted by: Marie Hork and Jen Psocki


Coffee. Screen.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 01:59 PM (jBuUi)

244 Great, now the Dept. of Defense has lost a blimp. How do you lose a frigging blimp?

Even better, it's filled with sensitive military equipment and the DoD is asking for the public's assistance in finding it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 01:59 PM (/tuJf)

245 Bombs Away, Dream Babies!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:59 PM (XUKZU)

246 DoD lost a blimp?

When did Rosie O'Donnel enlist?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:00 PM (tZOdt)

247 Syria and Iraq are the hotbed of Climate Chaos. No serious, you guys.

Posted by: The Pentagon at October 28, 2015 02:00 PM (UzPAd)

248 Well, I'd imagine you lose a blimp all at once.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (F26eZ)

249 Willow -

hope you are well. Did you manage to get any sleep - a few nights ago?

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (qOsoH)

250 Blimps are important considering space flight is impossible.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (Hp+ZP)

251 The beauty of it all is that no matter what happens, it's still gonna be Bush's fault. It could turn out to be the most fucked up thing in the history of combat--er, "Direct Action on the Ground"--and it will still be the fault of BushiltlerChickenhawkHalliburtonCheneyNeoconJoos.

Sweet.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (2XHX/)

252 232 I don't get it. What has changed to make da Zero give a shit?
Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2015 01:57 PM (xWW96)

This clown's foreign policy is almost random, like he puts policy options on little pieces of paper, tapes them to a dartboard, and then tosses a dart when his aides ask him for a decision.

Posted by: joncelli, Stalking the Night at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (RD7QR)

253
Now, I'm no airship expert, but I seem to recall that blimps are large, relatively slow-moving devices.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (mbuvg)

254
I don't get it. What has changed to make da Zero give a shit? <<<<<<<

Putin's Order.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (ODxAs)

255
also about Benghazi and the purorted delayof any assets around going to the compound until 2 weeks later.
where was That decision made and why?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (nqBYe)

256 I don't get it. What has changed to make da Zero give a shit?

Posted by: maddogg


Don't make the mistake of thinking he gives a shit. He just wants to look tough, like Putin. So right now he wants to divert attention from Putin. Think like a toddler and you'll figure out what Obama's thinking pretty quick.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (2oWD2)

257 #BlimpLivesMatter

Posted by: Marie Hork and Jen Psocki at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (Dwehj)

258 "OT but the Navy's doing some stupid 'energy security' program now about
reporting using too much heating and cooling or 'over-lighting'."

A former USN petty officer told me he aborted his naval career and got out after a brutal WESTPAC cruise during the late Carter years. The air conditioning was out of service the entire time, and conditions below decks were absolutely brutal.

I asked if they had something impromptu set up to cool the absolutely critical sectors of the ship internals such as CIC. He said, yes, of course, but unreliably so. If they'd actually had to vigorously maneuver and fight the ship, those jerry-rigged arrangements would have failed almost at once.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (noWW6)

259 Declaring victory and going home sounded so easy when Samantha Powers and Susan Rice first brought it up. There never have been any repercussions to any of Obama's prior failures - Altgeld Gardens, Annennberg Challenge - why would this be different?


And now he learns that other people elsewhere in the world don't look at Obama quite the same way he and his groomers did. Well, maybe he'll learn, but I remain skeptical.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (hLRSq)

260 If so many soldiers know what's going on is wrong, and unconstitutional, then why is there no rebellion against it?

I don't understand anymore.



Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 01:51 PM (C3E0x)

Because the Left has used Political Correctness to weed out anyone in the military who WOULD rebel...

There is no freedom of speech in the military... there is no freedom of association.... even things said in private off post and off duty, can and will be used against you PROFESSIONALLY...

It started under Carter... got pruned back under Reagan.... raised its ugly head again during Bush 1.... went on steroids under Clinton.... was INCREASED under Bush 2... and has jumped the shark under Obama.

My Son (US Navy, active duty) was ORDERED not to discuss Gays in the military with Civilians... think on that for a minute...

The Military constantly talks about Following orders... you are penalized if you do not... and it programs you TO follow said orders...

They do not talk about, in even Leadership Classes ( I'm a retired Navy NCO meself) about when it would be OK NOT to follow an order...

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (qh617)

261 >>>> When I told him about my misgivings as to his safety, he told me "There is no place safer than in the center of God's will." After that I pretty much shut up about it.
------
grammie, thanks for sharing that. That's very inspiring. What a fine man you have raised. Pat yourself on the back for that.

All you guys that have kids going in, I am so sorry. Your kids will be constantly in my prayers.

And, thanks, Willow. Your words were very comforting to me.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (EdhH3)

262 Jackstraw,

That happened once or twice in Iraq, where we'd have to chase after them.

In Baghdad.

Fun times.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:02 PM (RZQNw)

263 239 Direct Action on the Ground." Who comes up with this shit?
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 01:53 PM (2XHX/)

So glad you asked...

Posted by: Mortimer Shindeckle, Assistant Undersecretary, Dept Of Euphemisms, Gobbelty-Gook, and Double-talk at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (cCEFD)


Barry Soetero replaces George C. Scott as the Flim Flam Man. Has a degree: BSCSDD. Back-stabbin' Cork-Screwin' and Dirty-Dealin'.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 28, 2015 02:02 PM (yoVdb)

264 185
LOL, Trump gets the presidential suit, Rand Paul gets the restroom. Hopefully they don't keep it open AS a restroom for the random passer by..

Posted by: OP at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (TzeLs)



Stand with Rand, but in a different stall.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 02:02 PM (3dOE/)

265 Oh, and it happened at Aberdeen, my old stomping grounds....

Sometimes you just gotta laugh and go on your merry way.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:02 PM (RZQNw)

266 >>Now, I'm no airship expert, but I seem to recall that blimps are large, relatively slow-moving devices.

Yea, that was my understanding as well. So slow moving and visible that some have even suggested they be used as a platform for advertising.

You'd think they would put a Lo-Jack on that thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

267 246
DoD lost a blimp?

When did Rosie O'Donnel enlist?


Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:00 PM (tZOdt)

Tread WINNER!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (jJRIy)

268 http://gawker.com/gigantic-unmanned-military-blimp-on-the-loose-outside-b-1739217483

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (RZQNw)

269 3. Code Pink will be silent and have stinky vaginas.


Code Pink has not grown silent. The MFM is just no longer covering them.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (t2KH5)

270
Adrienne i did that night.
I have since still managed to hang in misery not often repeating the sleep experience.

insomnia is a bear. im hoping when life isn't o full of potholes i will regain some sense of equlibrium

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

271 Speaking of big, hairy, smelly, vagina's Huma loves to wash mine. Posted by: The Hillabeast, duck they are shooting at us at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (jJRIy)

Huma should write a book about her experience, 'The Feminine Musktique'.

Posted by: Germaine Greer at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (sI4OA)

272 There is no substitute for surrender.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (XUKZU)

273 Azenogoth @ 70- youngest son
I would counsel your youngest son to stay well away from today's military, even the Navy. Our government has, and will again leave Americans twisting in the wind in BAD places. They can't be trusted. Maybe (but I doubt it) they can be trusted again one day. Besides, your youngest son may have an opportunity (actually be required) to fight for liberty right here on American soil. Soon.

Eromero, 22 years Navy

Posted by: Eromero at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (b+df9)

274 If you love having troops in Iraq, just wait until I lob a nuke into Iran!!!

Posted by: Preznit Jugears McFuckstick!!! at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (wtvvX)

275 For one, they're tethered.

Or supposed to be anyway.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (RZQNw)

276 "Even better, it's filled with sensitive military equipment and the DoD is asking for the public's assistance in finding it."

ok, I laughed.

Do they offer a hint on where in might be, like one of the continents?

Hhmmmm I feel a book coming on.

Somewhere in Africa, on a dark and stormy night. The Department of Defense lost a blimp, that fell to the ground, we know not where. Ministers of War sent out messengers across the globe, "Help us find it." They cried, for the blimp held sensitive military equipment the government did not want to fall into the wrong hands.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (OsxVm)

277 186 Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 01:50 PM (4nmNX)


Bless you and your family. We are similarly situated re: generational service. I will have a hard time when it comes time to counsel my sons, after what I have seen these last eight years.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (3dOE/)

278 This clown's foreign policy is almost random, like he puts policy
options on little pieces of paper, tapes them to a dartboard, and then
tosses a dart when his aides ask him for a decision.>>>

Have you seen me throw? I can't hit the wall let alone the dart board.

I spin the wheel of policy.

Posted by: Obama at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (wrS2o)

279 Mother f'er.

If I called it Direct Action On the Ground and Peace I could have made it the longest novel ever...

Posted by: zombie Tolstoy at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (lqmAz)

280 You know it's Orwellian when you have to use ten syllable phrases to describe a two syllable concept.

Posted by: Beorn at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (dGF4J)

281 I WON A MOTHER-FUCKIN' PEACE PRIZE, BITCHES!!!

Posted by: Preznit Jugears McFuckstick!!! at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (wtvvX)

282 Maybe the blimp should be manned. The Germans had that figured out a hundred years ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (Hp+ZP)

283 Don't make the mistake of thinking he gives a shit. He just wants to look tough, like Putin. So right now he wants to divert attention from Putin. Think like a toddler and you'll figure out what Obama's thinking pretty quick.
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:01 PM (2oWD2)


So Putin rubbed his dick in Zero's face and humiliated him, so now Americans must die in a conflict that da Zero has nothing but a passing interest in. Yeah, that would be correct.

Posted by: maddogg at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (xWW96)

284 Send in the transgender brigade!

===

Diversity is our strength, b1tchez!

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (3ZtZW)

285 Maybe the blimp's got the unaltered temperature readings?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (F26eZ)

286
Ugh--I would not want to be Ash Carter, --look at the anguish on his face.
Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (mcm0N)
......................

Poor guy. Sucks to let yourself be pimped out for a stooge.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (wAQA5)

287 Had to stop myself from asking a USAF Security Forces Airman why he was in Wal-Mart with his beret on if he wasn't bearing arms. NCO training dies hard. At least his hands weren't in his pockets.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (tZOdt)

288 I, er, uh, have not seen that blimp.

**burp**

Posted by: Bartolo Colon at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (lqmAz)

289
Look, would there be some strategic advantage if, instead of playing word games, Obama came out and said, yeah, we will strike ISIS when and where we please, with whatever weapons we choose? Of course there would be. In fact, such a statement, followed up with a few strategic actions, might actually help crumble ISIS, and discourage recruitment. Make those head chopping lunatics look over their shoulder for a U.S. Marine with a sniper rifle. Time wasted on defense, especially against unknowable threats, is time not spent on offense.

But no, we can't have that, because Obama MIGHT receive a SMIDGEON of criticism, especially from the left. we can't ever have that.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (dEwvU)

290 Off, treasonous CiC sock...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (wtvvX)

291 >>That happened once or twice in Iraq, where we'd have to chase after them.

>>In Baghdad.

I had no idea that blimps were so easily misplaced.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

292 219
Someone up with the twitter should associate the famous "Mission
Accomplished" picture from the aircraft carrier with Obola's
proclamation.

Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at October 28, 2015 01:55 PM (S4sMa)

Someone should do that after the first US city goes up in a massive mushroom shaped fireball.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 02:06 PM (t2KH5)

293
My Son (US Navy, active duty) was ORDERED not to discuss Gays in the military with Civilians... think on that for a minute...

The Military constantly talks about Following orders... you are penalized if you do not... and it programs you TO follow said orders...

They do not talk about, in even Leadership Classes ( I'm a retired Navy NCO meself) about when it would be OK NOT to follow an order...
Posted by: BB Wolf


We were told by Gabe Malor that gays in the military were dreamy, and that the proof was that "there were no reported complaints".

Think about that for a minute.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 02:06 PM (326rv)

294 Fighting under a GOPe regime isn't any better.


You can spend all the money in the world on the military and it doesn't matter if they're not allowed to, you know, actually go in and win.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2015 02:06 PM (4ErVI)

295 Ugh, I don't want to go back there. Why the hell are they sending us back there... Why can't ISIS' neighbors kill ISIS.....

Posted by: Draki at October 28, 2015 02:06 PM (6fj5G)

296 If the one at APG are like the ones that floated above the FOBs in Iraq and the 'stan, the 'stats come loaded with different types of cameras and other security doodads.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:07 PM (RZQNw)

297 "Even better, it's filled with sensitive military equipment and the DoD is asking for the public's assistance in finding it."

ok, I laughed.

Do they offer a hint on where in might be, like one of the continents?

-
Did you ever see Black Sunday?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:07 PM (XUKZU)

298 The blimp from @USAGAPG has come off its tether. If you see it on the ground, call 911. Here's what it looks like. pic.twitter.com/mRHhpJdfHU

- Joppa-Magnolia VFC (@jmvfc October 28, 2015


... okay ... this is about the funniest thing I have ever read in my life!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:07 PM (zc3Db)

299 If the blimp is filled with sensitive military equipment. Why did they not include a GPS or maybe Onstar.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (wrS2o)

300 So Putin rubbed his dick in Zero's face

Posted by: maddogg


Actually, that's how Barry and his friends greet each other.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (2oWD2)

301 BTW - I don't think it is really a good idea to be calling for military personnel to take actions that will earn them hard time in a military prison. It was classless when the Left was calling for it and it hasn't gotten any classier since. I recommend dialing the emotions back a bit.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (hLRSq)

302 Ugh--I would not want to be Ash Carter, --look at the anguish on his face.
Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (mcm0N)
......................

Poor guy. Sucks to let yourself be pimped out for a stooge.
Posted by: wth a

After I pimped out my wife to Joe Biden at the swearing in ceremony, it's all kinda routine.

Posted by: Jackash Carter Sec. of Defense at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (326rv)

303 Jackstraw,

Not misplaced. Untethered. Usually due to poor installation or a good strong wind.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (RZQNw)

304 Bush's War = BAD

Obama's War = doubleplusgood

/Leftard

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (oVJmc)

305 At least his hands weren't in his pockets.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:05 PM (tZOdt)

I haven't been an active duty NCO in thirty years and seeing soldiers in uniform with hands in pockets drives me batshit. I don't say anything, just shake it off and drive on, but still...

Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (cCEFD)

306 Help Wanted. Blimp Tender.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (Hp+ZP)

307 Well, I'd imagine you lose a blimp all at once.

====

One of our Air Machines
Is missing
Tonight
Seems it ran aground
On maneuvers

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (3ZtZW)

308 Funny shit, the missing blimp.

How come the Goodyear Blimp never comes loose off it's tether and goes missing?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (2XHX/)

309 >>Now, I'm no airship expert, but I seem to recall that blimps are large, relatively slow-moving devices.

Not exactly stealth, either.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (NOIQH)

310 willow at October 28, 2015 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

I saw this in a catalog and thought of you ... No idea as to it's effectiveness.

http://www.hammacher.com/Product/86494

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (qOsoH)

311 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (RZQNw)

312 Uh, they stopped filling those blimps with hydrogen gas, right?

Posted by: Mayor of LLakewood New Jersey at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (sI4OA)

313 "Did you ever see Black Sunday? "

I think I read the book. That was the one about the football stadium blimp big bomb attack?

That's about all I remember about it.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (OsxVm)

314 Willow, Idk about the Jeep. I can't even look at it. That's a good way to look at it though. Yesterday I was blaming the Jeep and crediting all the men that helped me through that. Maybe the Jeep doesn't suck as much as I think.

Everyone that stopped to help me were men. And they all basically lied to me. I kept saying "I am going to die. I don't want to die this way." They kept telling me the Jeep was in a good position and I could be towed out. After I got pulled out and calmed down, they all said "yeah, that was bad. You could have died." It was sort of funny. Really great guys, they stayed with until the tow truck came and talked me through it with my window down.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (EdhH3)

315 Carter was a supporter of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as an advocate of preventive wars against North Korea and Iran.
In response to increase in tension in Ukraine, Carter considered proposing deployment of ground-launched cruise missiles in Europe that could pre-emptively destroy Russian weapons.

Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (mcm0N)

316 It might just be me, but this doesn't seem very Nobel Peace Prizey.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (YFFpo)

317 Year and a half ago, my house was visited by a recruiter. Daughter wouldn't answer the door, so I did. Went outside and talked to the gentleman. Thanked him for his service, but that she was not interested.

We do not know who gave her test scores, etc. to the recruiters, but it was rather worrisome.

I do not see how any of my kids could have survived in the 'modern' service no matter how much they were promised in education benefits. Remember, if they do not succeed, that bad rep follows for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (MIKMs)

318 I haven't been an active duty NCO in thirty years
and seeing soldiers in uniform with hands in pockets drives me batshit. I
don't say anything, just shake it off and drive on, but still...

Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (cCEFD)
==========================================

When I see that, sometimes I wonder if they are fake military up to no good.


Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (dFi94)

319 BTW, they're not blimps.

They're aerostats.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (RZQNw)

320 The blimp is off its tether. Repeat. The blimp is off its tether.

John has a long mustache. Repeat. John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (2Ojst)

321 Meanwhile, Trump is already calling tonight's CNBC debate "unfair."



What a wuss.



Nothing sharp, or tough, or hardnosed, or brilliant, or even quick, about this asshat.


Meanwhile, Limbaugh says it's terrific battlefield prep.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (oVJmc)

322 I think the blimp did indeed have Onstar, but during the hullabaloo over the GM bankruptcy, someone forgot to pay the monthly bill for it, so it got turned off.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (mbuvg)

323 So SMFH, the non-rigid airship is no longer TARS'd?*

*say it with Hillary!'s fake Southern accent.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (tZOdt)

324 Not misplaced. Untethered. Usually due to poor installation or a good strong wind.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:08 PM (RZQNw)


The blimp aspired to be part of some kinetic action. It didn't like being on a leash. Remember, call 911 if you see it. It doesn't have any tags on it (since it was on a leash and not expected to leave the yard) but if you see a stray blimp in your neighborhood, it's probably this one. It answers to "Fattie".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:11 PM (zc3Db)

325 I have no desire to go back to Iraq, certainly not under this President. There will come a day when we will have no choice. I hope we have the right CIC in place when that day comes. But for now, the people have spoken - stupidly IMO.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (gmeXX)

326 "There never have been any repercussions to any of Obama's prior failures
- Altgeld Gardens, Annennberg Challenge - why would this be different?"

I have _never once_ gotten any flash of recognition of what I was talking about when I have brought up Altgeld or Annenberg with Obama liberals.

That's probably fifty or sixty times, and a hit rate of zero.

For that matter, many self-described conservatives don't recognize those things either. The media couldn't run away from those topics fast enough in 2008, and of course they'll never go back anywhere near them now.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (noWW6)

327 troyriser,

Drives me nuts to this day also.

Which is why I avoid Ft Hood.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (RZQNw)

328 240
#PantsOnTheGround

Posted by: Marie Hork and Jen Psocki at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (Dwehj)


That's a good one.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (3dOE/)

329 Meanwhile, Trump is already calling tonight's CNBC debate "unfair."

What a wuss.

Nothing sharp, or tough, or hardnosed, or brilliant, or even quick, about this asshat.



I don't understand why some other candidate doesn't steal his issues.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (evdj2)

330 We were told by Gabe Malor that gays in the military were dreamy, and that the proof was that "there were no reported complaints".

Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: Blue Hen


"Shut up", he explained.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (FkBIv)

331 Actually, the thing that the Army let float away, despite what the headlines say, is NOT a blimp!

It is, technically speaking, merely a "balloon" or "tethered aerostat."

It goes like this:

Things that use aerodynamics to fly -- stuff like airplanes and missiles -- are called "aerodynes."

Things that float due to lighter-than-air gasses are called "aerostats."

Among the category of aerostats, powered aerostats that can be steered are called "dirigibles."

Amongst dirigibles, those with rigid frames and generally filled with hydrogen were called "Zeppelins." Those with soft/malleable frames but which can still be steered and have self-guided power/engines are called "blimps."

However, the thing that floated away DOES NOT HAVE AN ENGINE OR A GUIDANCE SYSTEM. Therefore it is not a blimp.

Going back to the category I purposely left out of the typography, among aerostats, those that AREN'T dirigibles and CAN'T be steered and DON'T have self-guiding power are called "balloons."

Balloons that float around freely are called "untethered balloons."

And balloons that stay tied to the ground are called "tethered balloons."

What the Army lost was in that last category -- an aerostat that is a tethered balloon.

But headlines gotta headline, so everyone is calling it a "blimp," even though that is totally wrong.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (jBuUi)

332 Blano,

They have bills too. And families.

And considering the employment outlook once they get out...especially if they're in an MOS where their skills don't exactly translate to the civvie world.

As for those close to retirement, well...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (RZQNw)

I see your points. It's just a shame their choices may be the lesser of two evils, i.e. unemployment or the Empire.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 02:12 PM (C3E0x)

333 Send in the transgender brigade!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 01:54 PM (XUKZU)

Chicks with Dicks for the Win!!!!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop using that term. I'm going to annihilate it. I really will. And then we will get another post all about me. I will be able to 'scissor' with Huma and Hillary. It will be awesome.

They can preserve enough of the tissue so that I will still be able to orgasm with them.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (E5UB0)

334 Take care of Iran, and the rest of the ME will settle down.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (evdj2)

335
Any ideas for a Slutty Ewok costume for Halloween? Asking for friend.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (iQIUe)

336
The Question Is: Who Does obama Want The U.S. To Fight In Iraq?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (3KTk5)

337 The aliens may have stole it to use as a giant garbage bag.

Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (wAQA5)

338 It is balloon!

Posted by: Chief Wild Eagle at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (FkBIv)

339 The blimp is off its tether. Repeat. The blimp is off its tether.

John has a long mustache. Repeat. John has a long mustache.



The tits are not calm! The tits are not calm!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (H/5vA)

340 Uh, they stopped filling those blimps with hydrogen gas, right?

===

Yup, bad for the environment. Now they're filled with ______

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (3ZtZW)

341 Everyone that stopped to help me were men. And they
all basically lied to me. I kept saying "I am going to die. I don't
want to die this way." They kept telling me the Jeep was in a good
position and I could be towed out. After I got pulled out and calmed
down, they all said "yeah, that was bad. You could have died." It was
sort of funny. Really great guys, they stayed with until the tow truck
came and talked me through it with my window down.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (EdhH3)
==========================================
Sounds to me like there was some Divine intervention going on there. You are blessed.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (dFi94)

342 Hey Anna : )

Do you have any experience with Final Draft software?

Just d/l the trial version for this month's class, which deals with scriptwriting, which is proving to be a bit of a challenge.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (RZQNw)

343 335
Any ideas for a Slutty Ewok costume for Halloween? Asking for friend.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 28, 2015 02:13 PM (iQIUe)

A fur half-coat and a banana hammock?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (2Ojst)

344 When I told him about my misgivings as to his safety, he told me "There is no place safer than in the center of God's will." After that I pretty much shut up about it.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 01:56 PM (dFi94)

Well said on his part.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (C3E0x)

345 The administration is preparing the public for when we go in again.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (hLRSq)




I'm pretty sure the idea is to keep the lid on until January, 2017, and then start agitating against whatever action the new patriotic (i.e., non-Democrat) President takes.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (oKE6c)

346 I was driving down 95 last Friday to meet a ginger midget and I was telling her about seeing two large blimps blimping about.

Just checked the map and yes, that would have been Aberdeen.

I wonder if it was one of those.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (JtwS4)

347 I have _never once_ gotten any flash of recognition of what I was talking about when I have brought up Altgeld or Annenberg with Obama liberals.

ditto.

Although, "well, the press hates Obama" is a standard rebuttal to anything ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:14 PM (qOsoH)

348 They are going to have to dig deep to blame this on Bush.

But I have an idea they'll manage.

*If they haven't yet, they will. Gaar An Teeeed.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 28, 2015 02:15 PM (BZAd3)

349 rats: the article says its at 16K feet...

lower and you could punch a few holes in it with a rifle

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:15 PM (mOvRk)

350 Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon
We could float among the stars together, you and I
For we can fly we can fly
Up, up and away
My beautiful, my beautiful balloon
The world's a nicer place in my beautiful balloon

Posted by: Fifth Dimension at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (OsxVm)

351 340 Uh, they stopped filling those blimps with hydrogen gas, right?

===

Yup, bad for the environment. Now they're filled with ______
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs


Ever since the Hindenberg disaster, they're always now filled with helium, which is inert and not flammable. Been that way for almost 80 years.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (jBuUi)

352 I remember the 1970s hippie bumper sticker which said,

"Join the military. Travel to exotic, distant places. Meet exciting, unusual people. And kill them."




No longer necessary to travel to exotic, distant places to find enemies of America.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (oKE6c)

353 Three miles high.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (Hp+ZP)

354 "yeah, that was bad. You could have died." It was sort of funny. Really great guys, they stayed with until the tow truck came and talked me through it with my window down. Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:10 PM (EdhH3) Yes, but you did Not die, you are afraid , it probably sent your adrenal glands through the roof, but L is here, and that means something.In my mind a Big something.1 not your time2 you have a purpose remaining here3. it's almost as if you have been blessed (oh that word i get so mad at)4.guardian angel, said fk that come back here and finish your job!i really don't know. i hust know You didn't die as maybe in other circumstances another might.but You didn't and that doesn mean more to me than chance.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (nqBYe)

355 I must of course note that Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Fort Worth, almost all derived from a commodity that must be exported via tanker or exposed pipeline.

It's really really ridiculous.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (evdj2)

356
Somebody lost a zeppelin?

Posted by: Jimmy Page at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (wAQA5)

357 Why would Obama even worry about optics? He could conduct a war in Syria and Iraq and the MSM will just not cover it. We live in a Soviet age where people just believe what they see on TV and have no skepticism or desire to find out what really happened.

I don't even know what really happens any more. I just want to hear that there is a secession movement going on and I will gladly join them. I want out of this situation.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (E5UB0)

358 Yikes, L'Elle - I'm glad you're OK!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (NOIQH)

359
Take care of Iran, and the rest of the ME will settle down.


-----

The one (correct) solution which I double damn guarantee you will NOT be implemented.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (mbuvg)

360 The Question Is: Who Does obama Want The U.S. To Fight In Iraq?

Posted by: Soothsayer

the Kurds.

I don't have a frickin' clue why they are doing this.

Their base is cheering on the death of four human beings in Benghazi. They have proven repeatedly that they will ignore all of the human rights abuses and misery, and pretend that they're noble by taking in "refugees". That's it.

And now this. My bet is that the intell is far worse than we've been told. We know that Assad is resurgent, and that Iran is heavily involved, as is Russia. Is there a move to carve up iraq into zones? That might do it.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (326rv)

361 Where's that confounded Zeppelin?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (Hp+ZP)

362 275
For one, they're tethered.



Or supposed to be anyway.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (RZQNw)

Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (jJRIy)

363 "Meanwhile, Trump is already calling tonight's CNBC debate 'unfair.' What a wuss."

All of the GOP candidates in unison should be denouncing this debate as unfair and refusing to participate in it until Harwood is removed as the "moderator".

Those of you who missed the _Federalist_ piece on Harwood which Andy linked from the Morning Thread should go back and read it.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (noWW6)

364
i really hate this IE i'm using it doesn't really do as i commnad with breks or pragraphs. i'm entering several times to get a separation of ideas written. but it doesn't do as asked.

hate it

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:18 PM (nqBYe)

365 The administration is preparing the public for when we go in again.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

-------------------------------------------------

They're getting ready to blame it on the next GOP president though, I'm sure.

Once you cannot blame the last one you are forced by necessity to blame the next.

Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2015 02:18 PM (LISuA)

366 No longer necessary to travel to exotic, distant places to find enemies of America.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 02:16 PM (oKE6c)
=============================================

Heh. Heard a variation on that in regards to missionary work. "No longer any need to travel half way across the world to go to the mission field. Look -they've come over here to us!"

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:18 PM (dFi94)

367 Babylon 5 pretty much summed this up..
Emperor Turhan "How will it end?"
Kosh: "In fire."

Posted by: Janir at October 28, 2015 02:18 PM (7I9m/)

368 My son just made sergeant.


Posted by: Mortimer


God bless him and you.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, like totally sad about current happenings and stuff at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (/Ho8c)

369 Is it possible to live stream the Republican debate tonight? My daughter needs to watch some of it for school, and we don't have cable.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (0MJkC)

370 "Ugh--I would not want to be Ash Carter, --look at the anguish on his face.
Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 01:58 PM (mcm0N)"


Feel sorry for him? No way, he gets to go home to that hot MILF every night. I couldn't keep my hands off her. Lucky devil.

Posted by: Your Vice President at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (OD2ni)

371 Nip Sip,

Yeah, they tend to drag a fuckton of cable.

Especially fun when you and your team have to gather all that cable through the wonderful streets of Baghdad.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (RZQNw)

372 None of this really matters, the media doesn't care, the GOP doesn't care, the LIVs certainly don't give a shit.

The only way anyone pays any fucking attention to anything or gives a shit is when Republicans control the White House.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (2yquu)

373 Led Zeppelin, you say? It will sink like a Lead balloon!

Posted by: Keith Moon at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (2XHX/)

374 The blimp from @USAGAPG has come off its tether. If you see it on the ground, call 911.

-
Maybe it self identifies as a tank.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (XUKZU)

375 **discovering his gift under floating above the Christmas tree**

Woweee! A zeppelin!

Posted by: Randy (from A Christmas Story) at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (lqmAz)

376 OK, not blimps, aerostats.

As in: She had quite the set of tethered aerostats so I reached around to the clasp and untethered them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (JtwS4)

377 I need to sober up. Sh*t.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (E5UB0)

378 and it steals my letters.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (nqBYe)

379 Why would Obama even worry about optics? He could conduct a war in Syria and Iraq and the MSM will just not cover it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (E5UB0)


Yep. And the Vichy GOP won't say shit about it, either.

When Barky slimed into office he screwed Afghanistan up so that there were tons more fatalities there as compared with any time during the Bush years, but not one MSM outlet bothered to cover any of it. Most AMericans thought we had stopped fighting there while fatalities and casualties were breaking records monthly. And all that death was in pursuit of nothing but cutting America down to size, on Barky's part as that was always his main goal.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (zc3Db)

380 i really hate this IE i'm using it doesn't really do
as i commnad with breks or pragraphs. i'm entering several times to get
a separation of ideas written. but it doesn't do as asked.

hate it

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:18 PM (nqBYe)
==========================================
Does it do it just on this site, or everywhere? If it's just here - it's our state-of-the-art blog thing. I use Firefox and I can't do page breaks or paragraphs here to save my life.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:21 PM (dFi94)

381 >>Now, I'm no airship expert, but I seem to recall that blimps are large, relatively slow-moving devices.

Not exactly stealth, either.


Posted by: Lizzy


*looking through Lizzy's sock drawer for cash*

Posted by: That Blimp at October 28, 2015 02:21 PM (2oWD2)

382 For one, they're tethered.



Or supposed to be anyway.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:04 PM (RZQNw)

Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?



That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 02:21 PM (H/5vA)

383 This is some really smelly stuff. I repeat, let those murdering bastards kill each other until someone wins, and then we can go and bomb a nation, instead of tramping around in the middle of nowhere fighting tribes and individuals. It's not like we owe those suckers anything at this point.

Posted by: goon at October 28, 2015 02:21 PM (gy5kE)

384 None of this really matters, the media doesn't care, the GOP doesn't care, the LIVs certainly don't give a shit.

The only way anyone pays any fucking attention to anything or gives a shit is when Republicans control the White House.

Posted by: Kreplach

We're busily playing Igor and digging up the Em-IM 'bank'. The one fricking thing in government that died. Piss off peasants.

Posted by: The Stupid Party at October 28, 2015 02:21 PM (326rv)

385 "I'm pretty sure the idea is to keep the lid on until January, 2017, and
then start agitating against whatever action the new patriotic (i.e.,
non-Democrat) President takes."

I remember in January of 2009 how dissent went from its previous status of being patriotic to instead being racist, in the space of just one afternoon.

I don't expect it will take any longer for dissent to flip back from being racist to being patriotic.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (noWW6)

386 abylon 5 pretty much summed this up..
Emperor Turhan "How will it end?"
Kosh: "In fire."
Posted by: Janir


Fire hehehehehehehehe Fire!

Posted by: Beavis at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (FkBIv)

387 377
I need to sober up. Sh*t.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 02:20 PM (E5UB0)

Why? You are going back to OH to run your dad's bar right? Drink the profits, that way, no taxes!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (jJRIy)

388 FREEDOM!!!

Posted by: That Blimp at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (2oWD2)

389 Ever since the Hindenberg disaster, they're always now filled with
helium, which is inert and not flammable. Been that way for almost 80
years.>>>

One of the reasons the Hindenberg was filled with Hydrogen even back then. Was that the US had embargoed Helium sales to Germany.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (wrS2o)

390 The Baltimore blimp has its own parody twitter account: BmoreBlimp. He's got a lot of people laughing today.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (GzDYP)

391 Is it possible to live stream the Republican debate
tonight? My daughter needs to watch some of it for school, and we don't
have cable.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (0MJkC)
===============================


I think C-Span has a radio stream. I think I used it one time. Let me check......

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (dFi94)

392 grammie, i don't know i don't actualu type anywhere else. But i know it also lets me load hotair once than stops working altogther and i have to restart

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:22 PM (nqBYe)

393 More cocktails, PLEASE

Posted by: dufuss at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (2u4CD)

394 SMFH, never used Final Draft.

What I use for screenplays is Celtx because it automates a lot of the formatting for you. Newer versions are all Cloud, I have an older version that doesn't do the Cloud and it works pretty nicely. Best of all it is free.
https://www.celtx.com/index.html

Scrivener can also do screenwriting, but it is more manual than Celtx. And Scrivener costs $40 to buy. Unless you win NaNoWriMo and get a 50% off coupon.

As for literature, try Syd Field's Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting. See if the library has it. My copy is a revised version from 2005. There are other books out there, but Syd Field's is one usually recommended.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (tZOdt)

395 The lost Zeppelin is kinda funny but more ridiculous. It's like the Hunt for Red October scene with the Russian diplomat asking the American guv official to help find their second lost sub.

And, hugs, Willow. Yeah, it ended well. One of guys actually said "you must be hopped up on andrelin." It ended with me hugging all of them and a lot of joking trying to make light of it all to help me keep things in perspective. Btw, they were all religious and said the same thing to me that you just did.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (EdhH3)

396 Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (jJRIy)


That makes it an ad-hoc barrage balloon and not something you want to fly into.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

397 Did anyone check for any black holes around where the blimp was?

Posted by: CNN at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (lqmAz)

398 Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon
We could float among the stars together, you and I
For we can fly we can fly
Up, up and away
My beautiful, my beautiful balloon
The world's a nicer place in my beautiful balloon
Posted by: Fifth Dimension

-
Well, duh.

http://tinyurl.com/o8ty93v

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (XUKZU)

399 The blimp is in my pants...

Posted by: John Holmes at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (2XHX/)

400 233: "But the Navy, as it stands, has a brutal optempo if you're a sea duty sailor"

Just about every branch and specialty faces this. Some for so than others.

But my wife and I figure the Navy will be the safest place to be if he's going to be worked like a galley slave.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (4nmNX)

401 Something really big just sailed past my window. Not sure what it was but it had a bumper sticker on it

How am I floating?
Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT

Posted by: se pa moron at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (sI4OA)

402 Zeppelins suck.

Posted by: Kanye West at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (wAQA5)

403 Balloon Boy on the loose again?

Posted by: Infidel at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (Z1SI2)

404 Barb the Evil Genius at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (0MJkC)


===============================================


Here's the link to the C-Span feed:



http://www.c-span.org/networks/?channel=c-span



Hope this helps.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (dFi94)

405 "The blimp from @USAGAPG has come off its tether. If you see it on the ground, call 911."

Thought I saw it earlier and had the phone in my hand to report it in, but then realized it was just that other blimp off its tether, Bob Beckel.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (noWW6)

406 "393 More cocktails, PLEASE
Posted by: dufuss at October 28, 2015 02:23 PM (2u4CD)"


I'll drink to that.

Posted by: Grandma Hillary at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (OD2ni)

407 306
Help Wanted. Blimp Tender.


Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (Hp+ZP)


Pick me! Pick me!

*waiving arms like Harry Reid at a Backstreet Boys concert*


Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (3dOE/)

408 Adrienee, it might work, yet it would have to go next to the arrangeent of other lights , sound makers, ocean waves etc, bottle of nyquil, and a big huge fan (white noise) to block out as much outside noise as possible)

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (nqBYe)

409 The Chris Christie came loose from it's moorings.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (Hp+ZP)

410 369 Is it possible to live stream the Republican debate tonight? My daughter needs to watch some of it for school, and we don't have cable.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 28, 2015 02:19 PM (0MJkC)


Yes. You can pull it up on CNBC.Com

Posted by: goon at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (gy5kE)

411 Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (jJRIy)


That's going to be nasty when that tampon comes out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (zc3Db)

412 246: "When did Rosie O'Donnel enlist?"

You should see some of the Guard units on a drill weekend.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (4nmNX)

413 Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?

====

I'm sure ISIS will find it and use it for some really creative snuff videos

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (3ZtZW)

414 I would love to hear the Jake from State Farm call when that blimp rams into someones house.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (/tuJf)

415
obama wants to fight the Kurds??

I wouldnt be surprised.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (3KTk5)

416 Tethered balloons, ok, that reminds me of a true story.

Hot air balloons are a big thing, and Albuquerque is/was the home port. So one of the local balloon guys rented his hot air balloon to a local store for promotional purposes. They were having a big sale and wanted to attract some attention. So they had this guy launch his hot air balloon from the parking lot. It was going to be tethered to keep it over the store.



on a windy day.. . .






ya




they had to close ABQ International airport when the tether broke and the balloon entered restricted airspace. The guy got the balloon down on the airport somewhere. He didn't say where.

Posted by: Fifth Dimension at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (OsxVm)

417 "BTW - I don't think it is really a good idea to be calling for military
personnel to take actions that will earn them hard time in a military
prison"

since they aren't going to prosecute Bergdahl for going over to the enemy in a combat zone, they'll have a hell of a time convicting anyone else for a lesser offense.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (mOvRk)

418 "The blimp from @USAGAPG has come off its tether. If you see it on the ground, call 911."


if you see it in the air, wave and wait for the second half to start.

Posted by: Why yes, I'm from the government. How did you know? at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (326rv)

419 How come the Goodyear Blimp never comes loose off it's tether and goes missing?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (2XHX/)


Because somebody might get fired?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (0yhH4)

420 Blimp is a very funny word. especially when verbing it. Blimping toward Gomorrha

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (RwwCT)

421 Close enough for Government Work.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (Hp+ZP)

422 They found it.

https://youtu.be/k8qjxT1iIAM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 28, 2015 02:27 PM (FkBIv)

423 Thanks for the suggestions, Anna.

My instructor is ok with Celtx, so I'll d/l that also.

I bought Syd's book on Amazon, plus I have this book:

http://tinyurl.com/q3fc7bv

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:27 PM (RZQNw)

424 Iraq will be one of Obama's greatest successes!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 28, 2015 02:27 PM (f+6Pd)

425 The blimp is floating over Pennsylvania now. How much do you want to bet CAC is behind this?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at October 28, 2015 02:27 PM (kSWKO)

426 In my screenplay the runaway blimp would be chased down by a "hot-tempered" Goodyear blimp who's helped by a past-her-prime hot air balloon with a heart of gold.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (2oWD2)

427 obama wants to fight the Kurds??

Whoa. You might be on to something. They're the only threat to his buddies the Islamists.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (evdj2)

428 Time for a 99 Luft Balloon cover?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (XUKZU)

429 I'm sure ISIS will find it and use it for some really creative snuff videosPosted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:25 PM (3ZtZWlikely to string a thousand captives to a museum they blow up.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (nqBYe)

430 I say send some hot air balloons after it.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (wAQA5)

431

obama's Fed did exactly what I said it would do: Nothing.

Because obama's economy is a house of cards and it is so fragile, so precarious that even a quarter point hike in rates will send it tumbling.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 28, 2015 02:28 PM (3KTk5)

432 willow at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (nqBYe)

Many apologies ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (qOsoH)

433 Blimp is a very funny word. especially when verbing it. Blimping toward Gomorrha

Blimping at Golden Corral.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (evdj2)

434 >>>>> Something really big just sailed past my window. Not sure what it was but it had a bumper sticker on it
How am I floating?
Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT
Posted by: se pa moron at October 28, 2015 02:24 PM (sI4OA)
-------------
Okay, that made me laugh. Ha!

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (EdhH3)

435 Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:17 PM (jJRIy)

That's going to be nasty when that tampon comes out.



Even nastier as that cable starts bouncing off homes, cars, thru a mall parking lot, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (H/5vA)

436
alright, out to do chores.

peace

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

437 The blimp is over Pennsylvania.

http://bsun.md/1MttaTj

Be free, little blimp, be free!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (JtwS4)

438 This is some really smelly stuff. I repeat, let those murdering bastards kill each other until someone wins, and then we can go and bomb a nation, instead of tramping around in the middle of nowhere fighting tribes and individuals. It's not like we owe those suckers anything at this point.

Posted by: goon
--------------------------------------------
Yes, I don't think we owe them anything. How can you owe someone something when they are a) ingrateful b) openly state how they will be the majority and relish the thought of oppressing you? My response to that would be to kick them all out of the country along with Jeb Bush, Sonjya Sotomeyer, RBG, and anyone else who thinks we owe some moral obligation to illegal scum who want to plunder us, rather than honest citizens.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 02:29 PM (E5UB0)

439 Help Wanted. Blimp Tender.



Did Lena Dunham fire her personal assistant?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 02:30 PM (oKE6c)

440 So this $1.4 billion blimp is used for long distance tracking of missiles and other threats but somehow it is invisible to our own systems and the government is now reduced to asking for the public to call if they happen to see it float by.

We are in the best of hands.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (/tuJf)

441
They found it.
......................

False alarm. That was Kim K's butt.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (wAQA5)

442 SMFH, I should probably buy that book. Though I think my issue is the networking thing and my ideas for screenplays are not Millennials Facing X in the Real Word like so many of the scripts. Or Progressive wank fantasies like others.

I found out about Celtx because that is what Amazon Studios had a link to for suggested software.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (tZOdt)

443 I am fucking LOVING this runaway blimp story! GO BLIMP!! YOU CAN MAKE IT!!!

Posted by: Thetherball ball at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (2oWD2)

444 Thank you , grammie and goon.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (0MJkC)

445 407
306

Help Wanted. Blimp Tender.



Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:09 PM (Hp+ZP)


Pick me! Pick me!

*waiving arms like Harry Reid at a Backstreet Boys concert*

Posted by: BarrieSanders at October 28, 2015 02:32 PM (DlmoZ)

446 424 Iraq will be one of Obama's greatest successes!
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 28, 2015 02:27 PM (f+6Pd)



The tragic part is that might actually be true.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 28, 2015 02:32 PM (oKE6c)

447 since they aren't going to prosecute Bergdahl for going over to the enemy in a combat zone, they'll have a hell of a time convicting anyone else for a lesser offense.

When it's not what you do, it's who you know, the above can be tricky advice ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:32 PM (qOsoH)

448 Shoot it down over an unpopulated area. I'm sure there are plenty of AF guys who could use some training.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 02:32 PM (2cS/G)

449 since they aren't going to prosecute Bergdahl for going over to the enemy in a combat zone, they'll have a hell of a time convicting anyone else for a lesser offense.


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (mOvRk)



Yeah, I wouldn't bet someone else's life on that one. Bergdahl was about getting an excuse to release some guys from Gitmo, and once that was completed and they had the Obama preening in the Rose Garden the military couldn't prosecute Bergdahl - not politically feasible.

Some other random Joe or Jane, one that Obama hasn't spent his time strutting around the Rose Garden about? That poor sad sack is under the bus so fast his ears will bleed from the change in air pressure.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

450 The TARS is trying to reach Canada for refugee status?

https://youtu.be/Lur-SGl3uw8

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:33 PM (tZOdt)

451
By order of the Secretary of Defense, M/SGT John Q. American was awarded the Bronze Star with "V" devise and Purple Heart for his actions during 'Workplace Violence' from an armed insurgency.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 28, 2015 02:33 PM (OiFtZ)

452 Story says it's dragging 6700 ft of cable. WTF?


Posted by: Nip Sip


Sounds like some "direct action on the ground" is needed here!

Posted by: Precedent Jugg Ears at October 28, 2015 02:33 PM (2oWD2)

453 The blimp is over Pennsylvania? USS Shenandoah went down in southern Ohio.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

454
The Dollar is shit today in obama's economy.

The housing market rebounded!! No it didnt. Houses that are worth $200K are selling for $350K because obama KILLED the Dollar.

obama printed more dollars than we can imagine and he's lending it out for free. And obama s spending and subsidizing to the hilt. The Dollar is shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (3KTk5)

455 Fly, little blimp! Fly like the wind!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (XUKZU)

456 FREEDOM!!!

Posted by: That Blimp


lmfao

youse guys is funneh

Posted by: Moderate Salami, like totally sad about current happenings and stuff at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (/Ho8c)

457 since we're on the subject, here's an odd bit of SoCal history about the guy who tied weather balloons to his lawn chair, and went for a little ride...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Walters

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (mOvRk)

458 Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:31 PM (tZOdt)

My issue is applying seat of pants to seat of chair ... and then ditching writing to comment here, so, I myself is to blame ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (qOsoH)

459 Shoot it down over an unpopulated area.

===

*bang* POP!

**fragments fly everywhere**

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (3ZtZW)

460 You know what would make this story perfect? If Trump corralled the blimp using his helicopter.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:36 PM (XUKZU)

461 His 1990 and early 1991 experience were described in a paul Pillar wiki:

2006 interview, in which he spoke of the CIA role in assessing Iraq in preparation for the 1991 war.
At that time, according to Pillar, the intelligence community judged that Iraq had active programs for development of weapons of mass destruction.
One of the revelations after the invasion and after the inspections began in Iraq was that some of those programs had gone farther than had been believed.
The intelligence community had undershot, if you will, in its assessment of just how far along, especially on the nuclear program,the Iraqis had been".

Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 02:36 PM (mcm0N)

462 Some witch, some warlock. The witch is taking the warlock to court for three years of harassment.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pfjvynn

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:36 PM (tZOdt)

463 I think fragments would mainly fall one direction, down.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 02:36 PM (2cS/G)

464 Is there any local news coverage of the balloon yet? we could kill the whole afternoon watching this...

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 28, 2015 02:36 PM (kXzR8)

465 Yes, I don't think we owe them anything. How can you owe someone something when they are a) ingrateful b) openly state how they will be the majority and relish the thought of oppressing you? My response to that would be to kick them all out of the country along with Jeb Bush, Sonjya Sotomeyer, RBG, and anyone else who thinks we owe some moral obligation to illegal scum who want to plunder us, rather than honest citizens.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner

it's not a matter of owing anyone anything at this point.

For several reasons, the situation in Iraq has gone south. Iran is expansive, with reason. Russia is now directly involved. Israel is being isolated. Syria had a civil war, with predictable dire consequences in the power vacuum created amidst the chaos. Turkey is having its own problems, and still no one is willing to deal with the very real aspirations of the Kurds.

The situation is far worse than it was in 2003. And the military is far weaker and its leadership is worse AND hostile to it.

The chances for any sort of success are minimal, and the chances for anything other than casualties and face saving gestures is high.

Hopefully we won't inadvertantly shoot at or be shot at by Russian forces. During the cold war, the left wouldn't stop fretting over the prospect. Now were' blundering into it.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 02:37 PM (326rv)

466 Oy.

Chores ain't gonna do themselves.

Stay sane, all!

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Advice Critic ... at October 28, 2015 02:37 PM (qOsoH)

467 minor nit: the proper abbreviation for "Master Sargent" in the Army is "MSG"...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:37 PM (mOvRk)

468 Did you catch the blimp yet, Daddy?

Posted by: Malia at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (ZQfW9)

469 467 Isn't that rayciss?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (Hp+ZP)

470 This blimp thing will not go congressionally unexamined!

- Trey Gowdy

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (XUKZU)

471 Got to run to the post office and mail packages off.

Don't let the TARS tether drag the blog away.

SMFH, if I can help anymore let me know.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (tZOdt)

472 My parents live within visual range of that blimp. That is fucking hilarious.
Oh nooooo there it gooooooes

Posted by: Ghost of kari at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (xuouz)

473 Best blimp hastag so far...#BlimpLivesMatter

Posted by: Beer Ninja at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (TT6a9)

474 Just trying to picture it, Lincolntf

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 28, 2015 02:38 PM (3ZtZW)

475 I've only heard of the balloon here on this site, is there footage of it flying around? I imagine anyone on the path with a cellphone will be recording video.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (2cS/G)

476 War or direct action, shooting ISIS guys in the face is a good thing no matter what it is called.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (DkXQB)

477 The blimp has a Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/AberdeenBlimp/with_replies

Kind of hilarious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (JtwS4)

478 Terrorists could hijack it and fly it into a building.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (Hp+ZP)

479 If you recognize the name Paul Pillar, good job.

Yes it's the very same crap weasel that leaked to NIC materiels to the NYT.

Posted by: Adele at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (mcm0N)

480 My turn to tie the blimp knot? No, it was your turn to tie the blimp knot!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:40 PM (XUKZU)

481 We need to figure out some way to tax blimps.

Posted by: Tom Wolf at October 28, 2015 02:40 PM (kSWKO)

482 Where did the term "slugline" come from?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:40 PM (RZQNw)

483 Visibility here in Pennsylvania is just about zero as that illegal Mexican hurricane makes for Canada.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 28, 2015 02:41 PM (sI4OA)

484 Thanks Anna : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:41 PM (RZQNw)

485 since they aren't going to prosecute Bergdahl for going over to the enemy in a combat zone, they'll have a hell of a time convicting anyone else for a lesser offense.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:26 PM (mOvRk)


Meh. They had no problem putting Colonel Terry Lakin in prison just for refusing to deploy until Barky presented even a smidgeon of proof that he is actually Constitutionally eligible to be CiC.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:41 PM (zc3Db)

486 Maybe the blimp learned it was going back to Iraq, and decided to AWOL

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 28, 2015 02:41 PM (mbuvg)

487 It must have been underinflated.

Posted by: Tom Brady at October 28, 2015 02:41 PM (Hp+ZP)

488 Blimp escaping? Wait, what....?

Has anybody seen my B.O.B.?

(battery operated boyfriend)

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 28, 2015 02:42 PM (DlmoZ)

489 Terrorists could hijack it and fly it into a building.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (Hp+ZP)


Doink!


"Back up, and try again, Achmed!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2015 02:42 PM (0yhH4)

490 486,

That made me giggle.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:42 PM (RZQNw)

491 My understanding is that military recruitment is off, even with the lower force levels. Didn't they have to loosen their no visible tattoo rules recently?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (LXJ1e)

492 I think they are tracking the blimp and two F-16 are following it. It's at 16,000 Ft.



I guess that's too high for your local TV helicopter to get pics of it?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (jJRIy)

493 This could be the makings of a blockbuster movie :

"The Great Balloon Chase of 2015"

National Security is at risk as saboteurs set loose a balloon filled with highly sensitive high tech military equipment, starring . . .


Ok, Sean Penn? Matt Damon?

there would be intrique and car chases. Turn coat federal agents, terrorists infiltrators, and spy hunters. The Spy Hunter would have to be the female lead. Who would we cast in that role? Angelina Jolie? She did good in SALT.

This could be worth billions.

Posted by: Fifth Dimension at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (OsxVm)

494 447, 449:

i totes agree, but at the same time, i pointed out to Kurt Schlicter, with whom i served, and who is a lawyer, the problem with going after garden variety AWOL GI's if they DON'T prosecute Bowe. he agreed that a lack of prosecution in such an egregious violation would make it difficult to justify harsh punishment of a lesser offender, and that, if he was defending someone, it was an argument he would use before the bench.

DOD is hosed either way: if they go after Obola's adopted white son, his majesty will be pissed, but if they don't, the military justice system is hopelessly hamstrung going forward.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (mOvRk)

495 Shoot it down over an unpopulated area.



===



*bang* POP!



**fragments fly everywhere**

Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs


*picks up blimp fabric* Look! Alien technology!

Posted by: Roswell, New Mexico Resident at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (2oWD2)

496 So if they bring back the draft you can evade it with a well placed tattoo?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (Hp+ZP)

497 The first story I found with a Search says two AF jets are following/monitoring it. You know they're hoping for an order to shoot. I would be, never get another chance to do it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (2cS/G)

498 Fly me to the moon
And let me play among the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars
In other words, hold my hand
In other words, darling kiss me

- Da Blimp Does Sinatra!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (XUKZU)

499 >> The blimp from @USAGAPG has come off its tether.
>> If you see it on the ground, call 911.
>> Here's what it looks like.

If you see it on the ground, call 1-800-CALL-PRC. We have trucks waiting.

Posted by: Your Friendly Chinese Embassy at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (o+SC1)

500 If I am elected President, I will not rest until the makers of Runaway Balloon (1925) are brought to justice.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 28, 2015 02:44 PM (3dOE/)

501 The Army will barely make their numbers; Navy, Marines, and AF will more than make theirs.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:45 PM (RZQNw)

502 I can see my house from here!

Posted by: That Blimp at October 28, 2015 02:45 PM (2oWD2)

503
the proper abbreviation for "Master Sargent" in the Army is "MSG"...



Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28

I'm from the ancient past, and M/SGT was the proper acronym used during that era. The most significant was M/SGT Roy Venavidez awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions on a SF "A" team in 1968.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 28, 2015 02:45 PM (OiFtZ)

504 Wow that blimp is getting blown more than me.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 28, 2015 02:46 PM (DlmoZ)

505 454
The Dollar is shit today in obama's economy.

The housing market rebounded!! No it didnt. Houses that are worth $200K are selling for $350K because obama KILLED the Dollar.

obama printed more dollars than we can imagine and he's lending it out for free. And obama s spending and subsidizing to the hilt. The Dollar is shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 28, 2015 02:34 PM (3KTk5)

-----------------

I agree with that. Inflation rate of 10% to 20% is killing us.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 28, 2015 02:46 PM (LXJ1e)

506 It's sad, but most runaway blimps wind up on drugs and working as prostitutes - so none of this is funny.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (2oWD2)

507 YEE-HAAAAAAAAAW!

Posted by: Slim Pickens riding a Blimp to start WWIII at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (3ZtZW)

508 Terrorists could hijack it and fly it into a building.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:39 PM (Hp+ZP)


Doink!


"Back up, and try again, Achmed!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Breaking News: Day three of the savage terror attack...on the same building

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (326rv)

509 Would a Blimp make a Blip on the Radar?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (Hp+ZP)

510 >> My understanding is that military recruitment is off, even
>> with the lower force levels. Didn't they have to loosen their
>> no visible tattoo rules recently?

It's apparently not in the American military psyche to go after Obama as the French officer corps went after De Gaulle after Algeria.

Of course, that one didn't exactly accomplish much, anyway.

Posted by: JEM at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (o+SC1)

511 Hast du etwas Zeit fuer mich
Singe ich ein Lied fuer dich
Von einem Spionage-Ballon
Auf irren Weg zum Horizont.

Posted by: Nena at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (JtwS4)

512 496: "So if they bring back the draft you can evade it with a well placed tattoo?"

Judging by the gate guards I've been seeing lately....No.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 28, 2015 02:48 PM (4nmNX)

513 506
It's sad, but most runaway blimps wind up on drugs and working as prostitutes - so none of this is funny.


Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:47 PM (2oWD2)

Well, this is a White blimp so maybe not.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:48 PM (jJRIy)

514 Blimp did not just float away. I blame Santa. Even he is pissed over the constant surveillance on Chistmas Eve.

Boy, are those Special Ops elves good.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at October 28, 2015 02:49 PM (uPxUo)

515 So I just get home in time to find out that our blimp is missing.



Normally, you can see both of them from Fortress VIA.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 02:49 PM (VPLuQ)

516 Didn't they have to loosen their no visible tattoo rules recently?





Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (LXJ1e)

Sort of. They were going to tighten the rule (from no tattoos on your head/hands to none on any area that would be showing if you wear a t-shirt and shorts), but went back to the old rule.

Posted by: Tom Wolf at October 28, 2015 02:49 PM (kSWKO)

517 Bad idea.
Democrats don't win wars.

Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2015 02:49 PM (ETxiG)

518 The housing market rebounded!! No it didnt. Houses that are worth $200K are selling for $350K because obama KILLED the Dollar.

Actually, that is because of the phoney-baloney zero interest rates. A house that is worth 200K at a normal 7.5% 30 year mortgage is worth about 350K with a 3.75% mortgage.

I know that this is part of the funny money you are talking about but it's a bit different since it's not inflationary but directly related to the manipulation of interest rates more than the direct printing of cash (though the two are, themselves, related).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 02:49 PM (zc3Db)

519 Off, Ed Rendell wannabe sock.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at October 28, 2015 02:50 PM (kSWKO)

520 I woke up this mornin' with the sundown shinin' in
I found my mind in a brown paper bag within
I tripped on a cloud and fell-a eight miles high
I tore my mind on a jagged sky
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in

- Da Blimp Does Kenny Rodgers

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:50 PM (XUKZU)

521 In the United States of Obama, "administration of justice" bears no relation to actual administration of justice, and that includes the DoD justice system.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 28, 2015 02:50 PM (LXJ1e)

522 Blimp's already on the ground. Half the media's all over the guy who posted vid of it on Twitter. Dude's footage will be all over. Start the 15 minute timer...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 02:50 PM (9krrF)

523 #BringBackOurBlimp

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 02:50 PM (VPLuQ)

524 How do you lose a frigging blimp?



Even better, it's filled with sensitive military equipment and the DoD is asking for the public's assistance in finding it.


Blimping across PA with 6000+ feet of cable dragging. Let's bet on how many guys are hanging off when it gets out of the mountains... And the #deerifle holes.

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (DL2i+)

525 Obama fails. It's what he does.


He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or humility. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until we are dead.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (fWAjv)

526 The inhumanity.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (Hp+ZP)

527 http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/r670_1.pdf

Permanent makeup is allowed.

Ring tat is allowed.

No tats on face, neck, wrists, hands, inside mouth, ears, or eyelids.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (RZQNw)

528 The commie queer had botched up foreign policy, emasculated the military, and now he wants to start combat operations again like it's a video game that you can go back to your last save point are redo it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (493sH)

529 Sky pilot.....sky pilot
How high can you fly
You'll never, never, never reach the sky!

Da Blimp Does the Animals!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 02:51 PM (XUKZU)

530 No tats on face, neck, wrists, hands, inside mouth, ears, or eyelids.

Inside mouth? I am boggled.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (evdj2)

531 Got an extra radar blimp laying around?

Need cash?

Tweet @PutinRF_Eng

We pay top dollar.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (o+SC1)

532 Hopefully we won't inadvertantly shoot at or be shot at by Russian forces. During the cold war, the left wouldn't stop fretting over the prospect. Now were' blundering into it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 02:37 PM (326rv)



-----------------


That's why I was saying yesterday that it now seems that Baraka wants to start a worldwide conflagration. Gotta remember what's going on with China too.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (Fmupd)

533 Army has the ability to valve off helium from the blimp remotely.

I'm guessing that's how they got it down.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (VPLuQ)

534 Obama fails,than the media sucks his dick over what a great success he is.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (8HTq1)

535 Can we just send all of Obama's new special people that are now allowed in the military? That'll teach'em.

Posted by: Jaimo at October 28, 2015 02:53 PM (9U1OG)

536 They've taken the vote on Ryan. It was something like eleventy billion to one.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 28, 2015 02:53 PM (dFi94)

537

"The Great Balloon Hoax of 2015"

Extraterrestrial Aliens slowly cruise over the Eastern US scanning for signs of life while the government tries to cover it up as a weather balloon that broke its tether.

Starring Keanu Reeves as the Alien from outer space.

Posted by: Fifth Dimension at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (OsxVm)

538 You can get a tat inside your mouth? Where? Your tongue or gums? That's insane.

The things I learn here.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (EdhH3)

539 Here in Pennsylvania we have this big low pressure from that border jumping Mexican hurricane so upper winds are blowing east to west so it's gonna spend a long time over the state. It's probably gonna head in the direction of Canada.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (sI4OA)

540 DOD is hosed either way: if they go after Obola's adopted white son, his majesty will be pissed, but if they don't, the military justice system is hopelessly hamstrung going forward.


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2015 02:43 PM (mOvRk)


Someone will come up for a way to differentiate the treatment Bergdahl got from the treatment Private Sad Sack is about to get. "Bergdahl spent years with the Taliban! You don't understand the horrors he went through!" is one. another is that the circumstances of Bergdahl are unique and the good order of the military will not suffer if we let him just disappear. Private Sad Sack here needs to be made an example of to keep others from going AWOL. Sort of like Pvt. Slovik being made an example of.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (hLRSq)

541 I'm thinking it was ancient alien astronauts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (Hp+ZP)

542 In my screenplay the blimp's tether gets dragged across a highway and is tangled in the axle of a semi tanker truck carrying gasoline. The tanker is hoisted into the air and is heading straight for a school right in the middle of a blimp-free zone as it's tracked by a heroic tv weatherman trying to reclaim his honor after a disastrous weekend forecast...

Working title: Runaway Blimp With a Fucking Gasoline Tanker Hanging from It!

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (2oWD2)

543 This is damned depressing.

Posted by: Lea at October 28, 2015 02:55 PM (lIU4e)

544 One of my younger daughter's friends had a tat of some weird ass symbol on the inside of her bottom lip.

So yeah, it's bizarre.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 02:56 PM (RZQNw)

545 I'm guessing that's how they got it down.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 02:52 PM (VPLuQ)

Is it down??

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 02:56 PM (jJRIy)

546 It's already down? Booo. I wanted it to land in a pumpkin patch on Halloween Eve.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 02:56 PM (2cS/G)

547 It is BAAAALOOOOOOON!!!

Posted by: Chief Wild Eagle at October 28, 2015 02:56 PM (YFFpo)

548 No, Obama is not a weak and petty man, he is at best a tween girl with delusions of sentience.

So, what can be done, though? Impeachment is off the table. No one wants a military coup. What is left? The ballot box isn't working too well, and heaven help us all if we have to resort to the ammo box.

Seriously, what is left that has a reasonable chance of excising the racist tumor of Obama?

Posted by: acethepug at October 28, 2015 02:57 PM (RHPFv)

549 On a related note, the 240 foot long military blimp on the loose is now about 40 miles west of me.

And it's trailing 6,700 feet of cable.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 28, 2015 02:57 PM (RcpcZ)

550 What do you want to bet that they'll deny combat death benefits to Wheeler's family?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2015 02:57 PM (EzgxV)

551 Remember the last time the American Left sent "advisors" to a foreign country?

A little country called "Vietnam?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 28, 2015 02:57 PM (ZvKdv)

552 "Is it down??"

Reported to be down in Bloomsburg Pa.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (VPLuQ)

553 Local news says closer to ground in PA and blowing out power on the ground... 6k feet of cable will short a lot of power lines I guess.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (kXzR8)

554 I would think some of those body-shaping guys with the sharpened fang teeth and cat slit-eyes would be a pretty terrifying opponent.

Thundercats Ho!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (evdj2)

555 I wouldn't mind landing in pumpkin patch myself.

All 1,300 ft of me.

Posted by: Spooky the Asteroid at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (RZQNw)

556 Even on this thread, it's impossible to stop a runaway meme.

Some idiot somewhere in the first news-wave erroneously called this thing a "blimp," and we're off to the races: No amount of corrections, no amount of explanation, can ever erase the false first impression of a news story. We saw it on this very thread. Everyone is susceptible to the "A lie travels around the world seven times before the Truth even finishes lacing up his boots" syndrome.

No one cares that it is not, in fact, a blimp. All that matters is that everyone else is mistakenly calling it a blimp, based on a single mistaken original tweet or headline; the mass social grouping of the error makes joining in on the error literally irresistible, even when you know it's wrong.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (jBuUi)

557 "The most significant was M/SGT Roy Venavidez awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions on a SF 'A' team in 1968."

Roy Benavidez, surely.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (noWW6)

558 It's bee a thing for a while where they tattoo stuff inside their lip.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (8HTq1)

559 No one wants a military coup.

Hmm.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (evdj2)

560
Mouth tats are so passe, I have one on my hoo-ha and it's always a great laugh at parties when I show it for effect!

Posted by: Dena Dunham at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (OiFtZ)

561 No, no, of course not.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (evdj2)

562 *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (evdj2)

563 If you've never had a Pennsyltucky blimpkin, you don't know what you're missing.

**trigger warning**

Posted by: The Blimp at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (UzPAd)

564 Reported to be down in Bloomsburg Pa.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



I've been seeing this hot air balloon in Bloomsburg...

Posted by: That Blimp at October 28, 2015 02:59 PM (2oWD2)

565 Grump,

Hmm indeed.

Posted by: Spooky the Asteroid at October 28, 2015 03:00 PM (RZQNw)

566 Oh, just.....fuck you all!

Posted by: President Bitchy Girl at October 28, 2015 03:00 PM (YFFpo)

567 Off SMOD sock

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:00 PM (RZQNw)

568 I been floatin all night my flaps wet as my wheels
There's a voice on my comms that drives my heel
Its the handlers callin say I need you here
And its half-past four so I'm floatin here
When I am lonely and the wind just gets too much
I slip my cable and start flyin round above
Don't need no remote controls

We've got a thing
and its called Radar Blimp

Posted by: Slim Pickens riding a Blimp to start WWIII at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (3ZtZW)

569 The smell of fail from this administration is smothering the country. And it smells like the dumpster that sits behind the XXX Butterfly lounge on K street after 5 days in 100 degree heat.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (OWndX)

570 No one wants a military coup.

You mean "freak weapons malfunction".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (9krrF)

571
You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get General Disorder

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (evdj2)

572 as it's tracked by a heroic tv weatherman trying to reclaim his honor after a disastrous weekend forecast...Working title: Runaway Blimp With a Fucking Gasoline Tanker Hanging from It!
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 02:54 PM (2oWD2)

...The weatherman's boss at the station, a grizzled veteran of the news, weather and sports racket (played by Ed Asner or a lookalike from Central Casting), orders the weatherman to stay away from the balloon story but knows the weatherman will ignore his order because the weatherman's a wild card renegade maverick with nothing left to lose...

Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (cCEFD)

573 No one cares that it is not, in fact, a blimp. All that matters is that everyone else
is mistakenly calling it a blimp, based on a single mistaken original
tweet or headline; the mass social grouping of the error makes joining
in on the error literally irresistible, even when you know it's wrong.



H8r. It's a Trans-Blimp that identifies as a blimp. We're going to name it Blimp of the Year.

Posted by: Glamour magazine at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (kSWKO)

574 Zombie


It started limp,

Autoplay warning

https://youtu.be/MVNsqUVDz0Y

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (VPLuQ)

575 Wait. So, it's not a blimp? What is then?
I actually think everyone here ran with blimp bc the jokes are easier to make than whatever it actually is.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (EdhH3)

576 Working title: Runaway Blimp With a Fucking Gasoline Tanker Hanging from It!

-
Can you get Samuel L. Jackson to play the disgraced weatherman?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 03:02 PM (XUKZU)

577 Take care of Iran

And then you'll have to take care of the other 60+%?

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2015 03:02 PM (DL2i+)

578 My bad.

Asteroid may actually be a comet.

http://tinyurl.com/qgn5mwd

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:02 PM (RZQNw)

579 It's bee a thing for a while where they tattoo stuff inside their lip.

Posted by: steevy


"Contents May Contain Venereal Disease(s)"

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (2oWD2)

580 482 Where did the term "slugline" come from?
Posted by: SMFH/i]

Typesetting with old lead type.

A chunk of lead occupying an otherwise blank area was called a "slug." Hey, stick some words in there so the space isn't wasted and it a "slugline."

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (jBuUi)

581 Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 02:58 PM (jBuUi)

I know it is wrong; it is just more fun to have a blimp disappear.

"Where's the blimp?"
"Two soldiers said they were taking it to get it washed."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (hLRSq)

582 Wait. So, it's not a blimp? What is then?

Aerostat. It's a baloon with a shape. A blimp is a dirigible (it has an internal frame), this thing isn't.

It's also totes not Skynet on a test run, nope.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (9krrF)

583 Alright. Alright. It's a balloon with a glandular problem and it is unfair to fat shame it.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (XUKZU)

584 L, elle,

It's an aerostat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (RZQNw)

585 And...we have been calling the damn things blimps for a long time.


They are part of our scenery, they have been in the sky so long.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:03 PM (VPLuQ)

586 the Goodyear Blimp

Does not entertain during a tequila hangover.

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2015 03:04 PM (DL2i+)

587 I will gladly pay you Tuesday for an Aeorstat today.

Posted by: J. Wellington Wimpy at October 28, 2015 03:04 PM (evdj2)

588 It's bee a thing for a while where they tattoo stuff inside

Should serve them well in the camps.

Posted by: Infidel at October 28, 2015 03:04 PM (Z1SI2)

589 What could possibly go wrong?

Was just told in e-mail that as it's coming down it's dragging its tether and causing power outages all over the place.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 28, 2015 03:05 PM (JtwS4)

590 Thanks zombie for the info.

The more you know...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:05 PM (RZQNw)

591 575 Wait. So, it's not a blimp? What is then?
I actually think everyone here ran with blimp bc the jokes are easier to make than whatever it actually is.
Posted by: L, Elle


See comment #331.

It's a tethered balloon.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:05 PM (jBuUi)

592 Mission O-complished.

Posted by: George Tirebiter at October 28, 2015 03:06 PM (/zyrl)

593 Can you get Samuel L. Jackson to play the disgraced weatherman?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 03:02 PM (XUKZU)


"I'm tired of these mother f***ing face-hugging spiders on this mother f***ing blimp!"

(AtC can play the short - yet powerful - spunky sidekick.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

594 From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ye damned blimp.

Posted by: Captain Ahab at October 28, 2015 03:06 PM (cCEFD)

595 No one cares that it is not, in fact, a blimp.


That's correct. No one cares because you're being pedantic.

It's a fucking blimp.

Also, blimp is a funnier word than aerostat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 28, 2015 03:06 PM (JtwS4)

596 During the height of OIF, aerostats were a common sight above most of the FOBs (to ensure no goatfuckers tried to plant IEDs nearby).

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:07 PM (RZQNw)

597 >>It's a tethered balloon.

Not anymore it's not.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 03:07 PM (/tuJf)

598 >>> Aerostat. It's a baloon with a shape. A blimp is a dirigible (it has an internal frame), this thing isn't.
It's also totes not Skynet on a test run, nope
--------
Well, that's a technical difference. It's a blimp.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 03:07 PM (EdhH3)

599
Working title: Runaway Blimp With a Fucking Gasoline Tanker Hanging from It!: A Love story


Posted by: Dang

FIFY

Posted by: In a World gone mad......... at October 28, 2015 03:07 PM (326rv)

600 H8r. It's a Trans-Blimp that identifies as a blimp. We're going to name it Blimp of the Year.


Posted by: Glamour magazine at October 28, 2015 03:01 PM (kSWKO)

He wouldn't be talking this way if the Blimp didn't have white privilege.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 28, 2015 03:08 PM (jJRIy)

601 So this balloon just happened to break its tether on the day the DOD announces 'direct action on the ground' in the middle east?

Heh! I say.

Look! Over there! A balloon! has broken its tether!

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 03:08 PM (OsxVm)

602 I don't mind people calling it a "blimp" anymore than I blame civilians for referring to any tracked vehicle as a "tank". They don't know any better, and it usually gets the visual image across. If this was called an "aerostat" by the press, nobody would understand, if it were referred to as a balloon, it would give an incomplete description.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 03:08 PM (2cS/G)

603 Does it answer to "Hey Aerostat!"?


Yeh....guess it ain't one.


Course, it probably doesn't answer to "Blimp" either.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:09 PM (VPLuQ)

604 I'll follow that blimp around the Horn, and around the Norway maelstrom, and around perdition's flames before I give him up!

Posted by: Captain Ahab at October 28, 2015 03:09 PM (cCEFD)

605 Technically, all lighter than air vehicles are Aerostats.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:09 PM (evdj2)

606 I mean, come on, how can you make a joke out of an aerostat? No one even knows what that word means.
It's a blimp.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 03:09 PM (EdhH3)

607 Course, it probably doesn't answer to "Blimp" either.

Try Hey Fatass!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:10 PM (evdj2)

608 Aerostat. It's a baloon with a shape. A blimp is a dirigible (it has an internal frame), this thing isn't.
It's also totes not Skynet on a test run, nope
--------
Well, that's a technical difference. It's a blimp.
Posted by: L, Elle

i thought that a blimp WAS a manned balloon. An airship/dirigible had an internal framework.

Does the Goodyear blimp have an internal framework?

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 03:10 PM (326rv)

609 It's a fucking blimp.

I hope it's not doing that. I don't know about the pregnancy cycle of Blimps but I don't want a litter of runaway blimps trailing cable all over PA and NJ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2015 03:10 PM (No/ki)

610 Was just told in e-mail that as it's coming down it's dragging its tether and causing power outages all over the place.

I figured that would happen. I'm surprised it hasn't brought down the grid that provides me power.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 28, 2015 03:10 PM (RcpcZ)

611 Also, blimp is a funnier word than aerostat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 28, 2015 03:06 PM (JtwS4)


In addition to the fact that no one uses the word aerostat for anything.

It's a friggin BLIMP!!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 03:10 PM (zc3Db)

612 606,

Just because you don't doesn't mean everybody doesn't.

Just most civvies.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:11 PM (RZQNw)

613 Aerostat

This is what my house thermostat becomes when mrs. Hen and the chicks decide that they're cold.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 03:11 PM (326rv)

614 What's wrong with the old trusty word Balloon?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:11 PM (evdj2)

615 "Try Hey Fatass!"

That's retarded, Sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel, eating a twinkie at October 28, 2015 03:12 PM (VPLuQ)

616 It's a fucking blimp.

I hope it's not doing that. I don't know about the pregnancy cycle of Blimps but I don't want a litter of runaway blimps trailing cable all over PA and NJ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The local population figures are ballooning!!

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 28, 2015 03:12 PM (326rv)

617 Well, that's a technical difference. It's a blimp.
Posted by: L, Elle


Nope. Not even close to being a blimp.

The very definition of what makes a blimp is that it must have its own propulsion source (e.g. engine/propellers) and be steerable. This thing is just a balloon in the shape of what most people think blimps look like.

If you make a balloon into the shape of a guitar, for example, that doesn't make it a guitar. It's just something shaped like a guitar.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:12 PM (jBuUi)

618 Can't we compromise and call it a Christie?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 03:13 PM (XUKZU)

619 Blimp, balloon, aerostat, whatever. Word is Trump's people are approaching it for a cabinet position.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 03:13 PM (9krrF)

620 i thought that a blimp WAS a manned balloon. An airship/dirigible had an internal framework.

Does the Goodyear blimp have an internal framework?
Posted by: Blue Hen


Comment #331!!!

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:13 PM (jBuUi)

621 I saw the Aerostats open for A Flock of Seagulls in '83 at the Bronco Bowl.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (2oWD2)

622 I appreciate that some people here actually do know what an aerostat is but it's not necessary to blimp shame the rest of us that don't.

Besides the blimp comments were hilarious.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (EdhH3)

623 Well, at least, thanks to Zombie, I now know that 'balloon' is spelled with two ells, and two ohs.

Let's see if I can remember that by tomorrow.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (OsxVm)

624 It's a blimp!
It's a dessert topping!
It's a floor wax!

Posted by: Guess what this is? at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (YFFpo)

625 If you make a balloon into the shape of a guitar, for example, that doesn't make it a guitar. It's just something shaped like a guitar.
Posted by: zombie

Guitars have strings.

This thing has over 6,000 feet of string.

it's a guitar.

Posted by: logic! at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (326rv)

626 Does Trump have a Blimp?

It would be bad if Trump jumped on the Blimp and it sprung a leak.

Then Trump would have jumped on the limp Trump Blimp.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (0dcbp)

627 The White House has released an official statement: "Blimpin' ain't easy".

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (2cS/G)

628 Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 28, 2015 03:13 PM (XUKZU)

No; It didn't reach NJ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (No/ki)

629 "After the casualties have been cleared from the stage at the Great AoSHQ Debate "On the nature of A Blimp," the next topic will be "Crossbows or Longbows".

So stick around folks."

AoSHQ Great Debates brought to you by Bactine.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 03:14 PM (hLRSq)

630 Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:12 PM (jBuUi)

Words have more than single definitions. The technical definition is one thing. The usage is another. In usage it's a blimp and that is not incorrect.

There are countless technical definitions that are different from usage. This is nothing new.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2015 03:15 PM (zc3Db)

631 "Guitars have strings.

This thing has over 6,000 feet of string.

it's a guitar."


See.....you can't argue against this degree of logic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:16 PM (VPLuQ)

632 If one wished to shoot down an aerostat, would one use a longbow or a crossbow?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 03:16 PM (2oWD2)

633 nood

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 28, 2015 03:16 PM (RZQNw)

634 Next topic...


Is Barack Obama actually black?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:17 PM (VPLuQ)

635 627 The White House has released an official statement: "Blimpin' ain't easy".
Posted by: Lincolntf


Or, "It's hard up here for a blimp."

See, I can make that joke because I'm ascribing the error to the White House.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2015 03:17 PM (jBuUi)

636 The only joke I can think of about an aerostat is something about a thermostat and it isn't even funny.

This is what happens when a thread goes on too long. We start fighting about stupid crap.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 03:18 PM (EdhH3)

637 "Guitars have strings.



This thing has over 6,000 feet of string.



it's a guitar."





See.....you can't argue against this degree of logic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Here here!

Posted by: Todd, night manager at Yarn Barn at October 28, 2015 03:18 PM (2oWD2)

638 'A blimp's love is different from a square'

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 03:18 PM (0dcbp)

639 Blimps are manned, maneuverable, and really do not have any internal framework - the skin and the frame are pretty much one.

Dirigibles, like USS Shenandoah had a rigid metal frame, separate gas sacks, access throughout the hull, a skin placed over the frame that was not gas-tight, were manned and maneuverable. USS Akron and USS Macon were flying aircraft carriers for F9C Sparrowhawk fighters.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at October 28, 2015 03:19 PM (hLRSq)

640 >>I remember the 1970s hippie bumper sticker which said,

"Join the military. Travel to exotic, distant places. Meet exciting, unusual people. And kill them."

I had a poster with that on it on my wall. I wasn't a hippie though, I was in the Navy.

Posted by: Aviator at October 28, 2015 03:19 PM (c7vUv)

641 nood

Posted by: SMFH


I don't think we're done here.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 03:19 PM (2oWD2)

642 Does Cris Christy have a rigid internal framework?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 28, 2015 03:19 PM (VPLuQ)

643 This is what happens when a thread goes on too long. We start fighting about stupid crap.

Or when it's early on the thread.

Or early in the day.

Or a long afternoon.

Or a slow news day.

Or a busy news day.

Or any day ending in 'y'.

Or...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 03:20 PM (9krrF)

644 The following Pentagon press release on the loose balloon proves it's a blimp:

Tits tits the blimp the blimp
The mother ship the mother ship
The brothers hid under their hood
From the blimp the blimp
Children stop yer nursin' unless yer renderin' fun
The mother ship the mother ship
The mother ship's the one
The blimp the blimp
The tapes uh trip it's uh trailin' tail
It's traipse'n along behind the blimp the blimp

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 28, 2015 03:20 PM (RcpcZ)

645 separate gas sacks, access throughout the hull, a
skin placed over the frame that was not gas-tight,

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Treat Your Tricksters to an I Scream at the Outrage Outlet!


Sounds like we're talking about Hillary again.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 03:21 PM (2oWD2)

646 It's a fucking blimp.





I brought a rubber... *smiles*

Posted by: That Handsome Good Year Blimp Captain at October 28, 2015 03:23 PM (2oWD2)

647 How'd that blimp make it from Delaware to Central PA without us getting a dime?

Posted by: EZ Pass at October 28, 2015 03:24 PM (DL2i+)

648 Does Cris Christy have a rigid internal framework?

No spine. His shape is maintain completely by internal pressure.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:24 PM (evdj2)

649 No spine. His shape is maintain completely by internal pressure.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 28, 2015 03:24 PM (evdj2)


Generated by doughnuts and chili.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2015 03:28 PM (4ErVI)

650
The Deathbringer.
The Reaper Of Souls.
The Lord of the Flies.
The 12th Imam.
Mmm. MMM. MMM!
Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 28, 2015 03:31 PM (9TK8E)

651 Blimp, Blimp, Blimp, Blimp
Blimp, Blimp, Blimp, Blimp
Lovely Blimp wonderful Blimp


Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2015 03:35 PM (DL2i+)

652
It matters not what the aerial devise is called, but what is important is the wording on the side of the balloon that says, "President Obama For a Third Term."

Posted by: Josh Earnest, BHO Buttboy at October 28, 2015 03:40 PM (OiFtZ)

653
From Heinlein: (Starship Troopers)

The historians can't seem to settle whether to call this one "The Third Space War" (or the "Fourth"), or whether "The First Interstellar War" fits it better. We just call it "The Bug War" if we call it anything, which we usually don't and in any case the historians date the beginning of "war" after the time I joined my first outfit and ship. Everything up to then and still later were "incidents," "patrols," or "police actions." However, you are just as dead if you buy the farm in an "incident" as you are if you buy it in a declared war."

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 28, 2015 03:56 PM (1hM1d)

654 I don't know if this was mentioned upthread but I believe that was MSgt Joshua Wheeler, not Sgt. Please don't demote him.

Posted by: Bill R. at October 28, 2015 04:35 PM (y20Dp)

655 can someone with juice tell Ace to correct the rank of Joshua Wheeler, he was a Master Sergeant (MSG, E-8, not a SGT, E-5 type). Not done with any sort of malicious intent of course, but the guy earned those three extra stripes.

Posted by: Quintapalus at October 28, 2015 05:44 PM (84elS)

656 Obama will now be able to end the war in Iraq twice!

Posted by: cranston at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (5TU+k)

657 Okay like the guy said above sometimes even a word that is not technically correct becomes essentially so by common usage over many years. Such is the case with "dirigible", originally an adjective meaning "steerable" and applied to airships, that in contrast to free-floating balloons, were powered by a propulsion device like a propellor and having aerodynamic control surfaces to make steerable. Sort of how we sometimes call a submarine a "submersible".

But dirigibily does not require an internal frame, and thus a blimp is quite rightly "dirigible", but not called A dirigible because the d-word became associated with the large rigid framed airships like the Graf Zeppelin, which came to be genarically named called "Zeppelins". A "Zeppelin" IS a good name for rigid airships, because Count Zeppelin's major innovation was to develop airships with a rigid frame ( he was not the first but this first met with acclaim). So the Graf Zeppelin was NOT a Zeppelin named after a guy named Graf. It was an airship named after Count (a German Graf) Zeppelin, just like the Queen Mary was not a Mary named after someone named Queen.


Anytime, don't mention it.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 28, 2015 06:52 PM (82IY/)

658 Master Sergeant Wheeler may you rest in peace, and may God keep your family in his loving arms!!! Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Freedom_costs at October 28, 2015 08:20 PM (9L0hB)

659 "Obama fails. It's what he does."

i doubt if Obama cares, he maintained the fiction of success long enough to get re-elected.

Posted by: iowaan at October 29, 2015 08:38 AM (VuJri)

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