Hillary Clinton: Hey, This Executive Action Thing Seems Like Fun! I'll Implement Gun Restrictions By Fiat.

Hillary has proposed to close the so-called, "gun show loophole" by executive fiat. Well, she generously has agreed to allow Congress a chance to do it first but if they don't, well, as Queen she will rid herself of this troublesome body and do it herself.

Clinton’s campaign says that this could theoretically be accomplished via a new rule by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that would more clearly define what it means to be “engaged in the business” of selling firearms. Gun control advocates point out that under federal law, those “engaged in the business” of selling firearms must perform background checks, but federal regulations defining that phrase are too vague, allowing too many gun sales to proceed without such a check. Such federal regs, they say, could be changed through executive action that, for example, would set a clearer threshold defining “engaged in the business” of selling firearms in terms of the number of guns sold.

So in a Clinton II administration they will simply decide that the Gun Control Act of 1968 is suddenly too vague to enforce and they will decree what Congress has refused to define because....go to hell, that's why.

Something to consider...these "common sense reforms" are supposed to address the "epidemic" of mass shootings and rampant gun violence in general. But all of the mass shootings of late have been committed by people who acquired their guns legally from federally licensed dealers. So adding this restriction on private sales (and that's what this about) wouldn't do anything except expand the role of the federal government into ever more private activities.

As for gun violence in general...do you think people selling weapons to gang members are going to be deterred by yet another federal rule? Of course this new proposal ignores the fact that it's already illegal to sell a gun to someone who isn't eligible to purchase or own one and there are substantial criminal penalties to doing so.

But GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE!

The real challenge here is the mainlining of the idea that if a Republican Congress doesn't bend to the will of a Democrat President, then Congress can be by-passed (because you damn well know the press wouldn't allow a Republican to do this).

The real question in the House leadership races should be about which candidates have a plan to restore the legislative branch's rightful place in our Constitutional system. But that would mean Congress would have to write laws that are more than first drafts for regulators and then fight the President (of either party) who encroaches on their authorities. But that would mean work and doing stuff which is way beyond the competency and interest of most of these people.

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1 McConnell would never allow this to happen.

Heh. I kill myself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 10:54 AM (ham8J)

2 Not the hill to die on.

*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at October 05, 2015 10:55 AM (ham8J)

3 One day, the Emperor will dissolve the council permanently. The regional governors will have direct control over their territories.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 10:55 AM (YQA13)

4 Ah, interesting times.

Posted by: eman at October 05, 2015 10:56 AM (MQEz6)

5 Benghazi loophole.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 10:56 AM (W5DcG)

6 Hey, this chick has the right ideas.

Posted by: Chancellor Palpatine at October 05, 2015 10:56 AM (KUaJL)

7 Hillary 2016: Taking the Dick Out of Dictator

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 10:56 AM (ham8J)

8
Oh yeah,, I've got this in the bag!!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 05, 2015 10:57 AM (HSmrB)

9 And the GOPe will do not a damn thing to stop her.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 10:57 AM (yJUoa)

10 Of course she would embrace the "pen and phone" approach!

So much easier to make good on the Clinton Foundation's donor requests.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 10:57 AM (NOIQH)

11 And yes, this is the reality now. The GOP president could issue an Executive Order to ban gay marriage and undo the Iran War. And they should.

The rule of law is gone, and you can thank the Senate and House for destroying it by surrendering and claiming only the president can stop it.

Guess what? Now only the president matters.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 10:57 AM (YQA13)

12 I think Hillary should run with this.

Because no one in America has any really, really, really strong feelings about the right to bear arms.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (0dcbp)

13 Hillary, America's Ex Wife

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (iYJ8P)

14 Iran War should be Iran deal.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (YQA13)

15 Did she already debate Bernie?
I thought that was last week - see anything in the news about it?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (NOIQH)

16 Keep trying to push left Hillary!, see what that gets you.

You're not going to out-left Bernie on anything, you dipshit, and gun control wipes out your center support.

Not that I'm going to try and stop you while you're defeating yourself.

So, as I always say, see you at the Constitutional Convention. Until then, STFU.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (CGjum)

17 The Modern Man likes strong women like Hillary who aren't afraid to ignore stupid things like "separation of powers" and "checks and balances" for the people who are too stupid to know what is good for them.

Posted by: joe at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (KUaJL)

18 There is no "gun-show loophole" you neurologically-defective scrunt, but you know that.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (2Ojst)

19 Fuck you very much, McCarthy.

Fucking saboteur.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (9krrF)

20 Zombie Republic shambles on.

Posted by: eman at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (MQEz6)

21 Close the email loophole.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (W5DcG)

22 If Hillary becomes President I imagine her acting much like Empress Wu of China-who to put it mildly- was not at all a nice woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (cgZPg)

23 Come on guys it's for the children, why do you hate children?

Posted by: Monsieru Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (IffJr)

24 As I said this morning, the big gun show loop-hole lie. What they are talking about is sales and trades between PRIVATE individuals. Gun Shop owners already do background checks at gun shows.



And since private individual sales do NOT fall under the 1968 gun control law she can not do it w/o congress. Scankles is a dumb liar.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (t2KH5)

25 Fuck you very much, McCarthy.


Fucking saboteur.

Posted by: Brother Cavil


Another Uniparty victory.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 05, 2015 11:00 AM (0dcbp)

26 I'd like to ask people who yell about "government shutdown!!" the following: suppose the president submits a complete budget to Congress and says "I want this passed exactly as it is. Add or cut anything and I will veto the whole thing." Congress proceeds to make some changes, the president vetoes it, and the government shuts down.
So, Noisy Liberals, if that were to happen who would be to blame, the president or the Congress?

Posted by: mallfly at October 05, 2015 11:01 AM (qSIlh)

27 Does this mean when she's elected I'm not to go outside and fire off several of my weapons? For me it's culturally appropriate. Who's to say which culture is more appropriate than another?

Posted by: fairweatherbill at October 05, 2015 11:01 AM (0U/NF)

28 >>"gun-show loophole"

Just a key phrase they use, like "selectively edited", to get the LIVs to stop thinking.
Oh, we all know that loophole, no reason to stop and consider whether or not that would have stopped Mercer (no) or what that even means.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:01 AM (NOIQH)

29 The spluge must flow!

Posted by: emperor obama at October 05, 2015 11:01 AM (gmaUh)

30 One other thing, if she was still a politician from AR instead of NY she would not touch this with a ten foot pole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 05, 2015 11:01 AM (t2KH5)

31 heh.


Steyn:


"I see Hillary is proposing a no-fly zone over Syria, but why stop there?
Surely Obama could declare the Middle East a gun-free zone and put that
unarmed security guard in charge."

Posted by: Mortimer at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (0dcbp)

32 26 I'd like to ask people who yell about "government shutdown!!" the following: suppose the president submits a complete budget to Congress and says "I want this passed exactly as it is. Add or cut anything and I will veto the whole thing." Congress proceeds to make some changes, the president vetoes it, and the government shuts down.
So, Noisy Liberals, if that were to happen who would be to blame, the president or the Congress?


Which side does big business want? That's the side they'll fight for.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (YQA13)

33
Her full wish list: http://tinyurl.com/ph4zkab

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (kdS6q)

34 Crap, this means a run on ammunition and magazines again. Up goes the prices and down goes the supply.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (+lSVr)

35 Ooops! I meant "spice". Honest. Spice.

Posted by: emperor obama at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (gmaUh)

36 Who does this hurt? Gangbangers? It's not like the donks really care if they kill each other.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (iQIUe)

37 An EO extending the definition of aggravated murder to cover abortion seems easier now, or one ending with holding.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 11:03 AM (ztOda)

38 Asked what would constitute 'a significant number of guns,' a Clinton aide responded, 'There are a number of studies being conducted currently regarding illegal gun sales that could inform an eventual rulemaking.'
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So she will make it extra extra illegal?!?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 11:03 AM (fWAjv)

39 Be interesting to see how much stock in weapons and ammo makers that so called left wingers hold.

My guess. More than a teensy bit.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 11:04 AM (dOD0J)

40 The Hill to die on!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 05, 2015 11:04 AM (so+oy)

41 Hillary, call me when you come up with the perfect EO that would have prevented Kathy Steinle's death. Solving issues like:

--- Sanctuary cities
--- Lax immigration enforcement/deportations
--- And the little problem of *lost* or *stolen* guns being used to commit a crime.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:05 AM (NOIQH)

42 Can we close the email server loophole first? What about the Dead Ambassador in Benghazi loophole?

Posted by: Fritz at October 05, 2015 11:05 AM (UzPAd)

43 The real question in the House leadership races should be about which candidates have a plan to restore the legislative branch's rightful place in our Constitutional system. But that would mean Congress would have to write laws that are more than first drafts for regulators and then fight the President (of either party) who encroaches on their authorities. But that would mean work and doing stuff which is way beyond the competency and interest of most of these people.

Congresscritters don't write bills these days, lobbyists and their special interests do. People who are unaccountable and unelected control DC. And the Congresscritters don't even have to abide by the laws they make.

How and why we tolerate this is a mystery to me.

I'd love to see someone follow a bill all the way through the hog farm and then tell us what they see. That would probably have to be done on the sly to prevent deception. Hell, just saying you were going to do that and then getting turned away would be instructive.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 11:05 AM (LUgeY)

44 How is Hillary's Russian coming along? Much improved? Been hitting the books has she?

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 11:06 AM (KYA56)

45 So she will make it extra extra illegal?!?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

Double secret extra illegal.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at October 05, 2015 11:06 AM (0U/NF)

46 "How and why we tolerate this is a mystery to me."

If you don't, you're a "conservative" and public enemy no. 1.

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 11:07 AM (KYA56)

47 Oregon has closed this "loophole" already, with the law going into effect 2 months ago. What Hillary is proposing already existed in Oregon.

How did that work out?

And why the fuck doesn't anyone from the GOP point this out?

Posted by: Monsieru Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 11:07 AM (IffJr)

48 I did not know that straw purchases were legal under federal statute. I thought a Supreme Court case in June 2014 ended challenges. But Hillary will make them illegal. She just lost the BATFE union vote, I think. She'd have to prosecute them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 05, 2015 11:07 AM (xq1UY)

49 Fuck you very much, McCarthy.

Fucking saboteur.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (9krrF)



You are giving him waaaaaay too much credit.

Like Boehner, McCarthy is a rather stupid man who was just smart enough to learn to-

latch onto some rising star and follow their orders without question whatever it took.

Subordinates by nature, they have no idea what to do at the top. Thus, Boehner and probably McCarthy bending to Obama's will because that's what they do.

McCarthy stupidly tried to speak as a "conservative leader" would but is too stupid to know how to do it.


In the navy, you could always tell the XO who should've never been promoted to CO.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 05, 2015 11:08 AM (KUa85)

50 I see that Hillary is angry with Republicans for 'exploiting' Benghazi.

-
2nd string quarterback McCarthy fumbles the ball and rookie Hillary! scoops it up and heads for goal line!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 11:08 AM (fFIVI)

51 I'm starting to see things from Ace's point of view now.

Having served on a GOP platform committee, I can see now that such things are simply put out there to keep the activists thinking they are doing something productive.

The candidates are not obliged to do anything set forth in the platform. It's just a bit of Issue Theater to get us out there knocking on doors and calling people.

Thank God there are organizations like the NRA and GOA keeping order with the gun-control issue. Otherwise, the GOP would be rolling over on this just like they do on spending, taxes and "entitlements."

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at October 05, 2015 11:08 AM (gE+zH)

52 All this is based on the assumption that Angry Choom Boy won't decide to do that his own self. I believe he hinted at his interest in confiscation during his yammering about Roseburg.

You can be damn sure it's at the top of every Democrat's agenda.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 05, 2015 11:09 AM (1GuiX)

53 How many dead bodies were created that last time a Clinton did something unilateral with the ATF? Thank God they were white people. Imagine the sturm and drang if people of color were liquidated.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 05, 2015 11:09 AM (oDCMR)

54 If conservatives in Congress had a pair amongst themselves, they'd write a bill called the "Gun Show Loophole Elimination Bill" and use it to defund Planned Parenthood. Then promote the hell out of it to the LIV idiocracy, and dare the Dems to not vote for it.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2015 11:09 AM (VndSC)

55 Okay so there were multiple deaths at a location that should have been safe. Going back and rehashing the causes now is useless. What difference does it make?

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 11:09 AM (+lSVr)

56 Why should they point it out? They haven't pointed out that none of her solutions would have prevented this imported halfling killer from shooting those students.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 11:09 AM (t2KH5)

57 Advocate for comprehensive federal background check legislation.

-Already have it

Close the 'Charleston Loophole.'

-Neat. A new term. Well, you can just hire competent people.

Tighten the gun show and Internet sales loophole if Congress won't.

-4473. Never heard of it..

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 11:10 AM (fWAjv)

58 Kate Steinle was killed with a gun stolen from a vehicle of a Federal employee.
It was a Federal gun, a pistol, left on the car seat, in plain sight, in downtown San Francisco, which tells you that the Federal employee was either completely irresponsible or had sit for brains, or both.

Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2015 11:10 AM (ETxiG)

59 By saying she would disarm American patriots, she just overcame the email/Benghazi thingie. What a bwich. Hey, that reminds me. Thinking of hellary, she has a big oven for children, right? I have to change the element in Mrs. E's big oven today. Can't let that go until right at Thanksgiving. Turkey time!

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2015 11:11 AM (go5uR)

60 Hillary's not just a Social Justice Warrior. She's a show gun warrior.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 11:12 AM (E5UB0)

61 13 Hillary, America's Ex Wife
Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 10:58 AM (iYJ8P)

Every man's ex

Every woman's in-law

Like clap, only worse.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 05, 2015 11:12 AM (RD7QR)

62 Wow, by that logic, by Presidential Fiat, you could make ANYTHING illegal - eating fast food, not supersizing, voting non-Democrat.

The mind boggles.

Funny, hasn't this happened before? 1930's? 1917? 1949?

Posted by: Fred Zeppelin at October 05, 2015 11:12 AM (zL/eJ)

63 The real question in the House leadership races should be about which candidates have a plan to restore the legislative branch's rightful place in our Constitutional system. But that would mean Congress would have to write laws that are more than first drafts for regulators and then fight the President (of either party) who encroaches on their authorities. But that would mean work and doing stuff which is way beyond the competency and interest of most of these people.


*POINTS WILDLY*

This. All of this.

I was reading an article where Chaffetz was noting that some 60% (I may have this wrong since I'm going from memory and am too lazy to look it up) of Republicans say the GOP has betrayed them. As he notes, that's a very harsh word. It's also accurate.

I scream and scream and scream about the delegation doctrine because it matters. One of the primary checks on untrammeled governmental authority is making sure that legislation is written by legislators who can be voted out if they go too far. Well, the administrative state removes that pesky problem.

By the insanity of cthulhu, I do not comprehend why people who will battle tooth and claw to get into Congress will then lie there and think of England when Obama takes away their power.

Oh. Wait. It's the lack of responsibility thingy. What was I thinking?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at October 05, 2015 11:12 AM (IrByp)

64 The lying Trayvonified mass media is putting us at risk by not honestly reporting what is happening in America.
LIVS are being told a murderer of white people is a white supremacist. How Fu ked up is that? Pretty damm fu ked up.

The LA times and other leftist media aren't content to hide the profile of these monsters. They want us to believe they are the opposite of who that are. That's criminal endangerment of the public.

Posted by: WOLF. NO REALLY. WOLF!! at October 05, 2015 11:13 AM (PSusW)

65 Keep military-style weapons off our streets. Military-style assault weapons do not belong on our streets. They are a danger to law enforcement and to our communities. Clinton supports keeping assault weapons off our streets.
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Great. A run on shoulder things that go up.

Already doubled the price on gunbroker!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 11:14 AM (fWAjv)

66
The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 05, 2015 11:14 AM (VvOZ5)

67 Outlaw the weapons that kill the most people every year.

Abortion Prongs and skull crushers.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 11:15 AM (+lSVr)

68 I have yet to hear anyone on "our side" mention one gigantic political and legal point and it's become more pronounced as TFG's junta has progressed: the president cannot just do as he pleases, he is bound by the Constitution and only has the power that it gives him.

I know we've beaten this point to death here over the years, but why has no one in DC brought it up? I thought it had been firmly fixed in everyone's mind because of Nixon.

I guess I was wrong.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 11:15 AM (LUgeY)

69 Love how that Plumline post never points out that doing all this by EO is problematic, and the only gun expert they consulted/quoted is from Soros' Center for American Progress.

Wacky world these DC people live in.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:16 AM (NOIQH)

70 Gun rights groups should be lawyering up and pressing for Scankles to charged with all the multiple felonies she has committed and see her ass thrown in jail for 50 years.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 11:16 AM (t2KH5)

71 @BWB

Because they like the lack of accountability that bureaucratic fiat produces.

As in, it's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:17 AM (CGjum)

72 Here's a question nobody seems to be asking: is all of this covered by legislation? If so, is there any precedent for simply waving it away with a flick of the imperial pen and phone?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 05, 2015 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

73 For the LIV, which in this case, constitutes pretty much anyone who hasn't seen or touched a firearm outside of seeing one in a movie, this is manna from heaven for them.

I have an acquaintance, who on their Facebook page, has been regurgitating this gun control crap for the past two days. This person was, until retirement, a CEO of a large service company and of course, a rich Democrat. Hillary supporter(no joke). It's a female and I believe she relates in many ways to Hillary.

What it demonstrates is that one can be a female, take the right classes at the right college, get with the right people and spout the right diatribe and do quite nicely for oneself.

Having an original thought, or common sense is not a requirement. Spouting the Democrat religion(last week this same person was sounding the" abortion for all " alarm) is a requirement.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:18 AM (rFdsN)

74 Ruling by decree would be much more efficient and save the taxpayers loads of money. And we know how important that is too Democrats.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 05, 2015 11:18 AM (1BQGO)

75 The only "pro-gun" democrats will be those who are allowed to throw away a "pro-gun" vote to help them keep their rural seat(s).

But if it comes down to a pinch, just like Obamacare, you can count on Every. Single. Democrat..... voting to strip us of our 2nd Amendment Rights.

And sadly, they'll have a few RINOs on board with 'em in this.

It's like we've got a rope around our necks, and they're systematically kicking out the soap-box, the jury-box and the ballot-box, all out from under our feet.

What box then, remains? They would have us in a coffin-box. I would resist their notions, and believe myself to be in good and like company here.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 11:18 AM (McRlu)

76 oooh, so I get an answer to my question above: just noticed at weaselzippers:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-N.Y.) on Friday said Democratic lawmakers should shut down the federal government until Congress passes stricter gun control laws.

"I'd love to see the Democrats stand up and say, 'We're going to shut down the federal government or threaten to shut down the government if we don't get real gun control legislation,' " he told NY1 News.

Posted by: mallfly at October 05, 2015 11:18 AM (qSIlh)

77 >>Outlaw the weapons that kill the most people every year. Abortion Prongs and skull crushers.

In 2013:
--- 8,454 gun deaths in America (FBI stats)
--- 300,000 (approximately) abortions performed in America

http://www.bookwormroom.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:19 AM (NOIQH)

78 Spouting the Democrat religion(last week this same person was sounding the" abortion for all " alarm) is a requirement.


Socialism runs on slogans.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 05, 2015 11:19 AM (hsCpX)

79 72 Here's a question nobody seems to be asking: is all of this covered by legislation? If so, is there any precedent for simply waving it away with a flick of the imperial pen and phone?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 05, 2015 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

Yeah immigration law is covered by legislation as well. And yet we still have amnesty for one and all thanks to the pen and phone.

Posted by: Monsieru Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 11:19 AM (IffJr)

80 And someone needs to give Toomey a damned history book, as I'm sure he'll be the first in line to stab us in the back.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:19 AM (CGjum)

81 Well, Mrs. Clinton, I see the Right Wing Hate Machine has shifted targets from the alleged email "scandal" to accusations of "gun grabbing". If it wasn't for concerned leaders like Mrs. Clinton, I'm sure the NRA and the haters of the right would be perfectly happy to see the bodies of innocent civilians piled like cordwood in America's streets due to this plague of gun violence in order to protect their precious "rights"!

Posted by: Real Everyday American at October 05, 2015 11:20 AM (EDYaR)

82 69 Love how that Plumline post never points out that doing all this by EO is problematic, and the only gun expert they consulted/quoted is from Soros' Center for American Progress.

Obama could do this tomorrow and no one would stop him. What, would some wimp in the GOP sue him so two years from now the order gets removed *maybe*?

The fact is the only way to stop a president is to impeach him. He controls the military and the bureaucracy. He can issue executive orders as legislation. He can conduct treaties on his own.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 11:20 AM (YQA13)

83 75 Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 11:18 AM (McRlu)


Democrats in toss-up States have avoided gun control like the plague since their CO fiasco. The only ones pushing this crap are Dems from nice safe seats in deep blue States like NY.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 11:21 AM (t2KH5)

84 Candidates should be forced to confirm now that they will abide by their oath of office if elected.

Posted by: Snake Plissken at October 05, 2015 11:21 AM (pZpIo)

85
"If conservatives in Congress had a pair amongst themselves, they'd write a bill called the "Gun Show Loophole Elimination Bill" and use it to defund Planned Parenthood. Then promote the hell out of it to the LIV idiocracy, and dare the Dems to not vote for it."

And our State loving media would run stories about it 24/7 so that even the LIVs would know all about it.

I have said it before, until we take back control of the schools, legal system, and at least half the media we are fighting like a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 11:22 AM (uhftQ)

86 Hillary plans to use a Presidential Fiat, which will pollute more than a Volkwagen does.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2015 11:25 AM (VndSC)

87 >>>This person was, until retirement, a CEO of a large service company and of course, a rich Democrat. Hillary supporter(no joke). It's a female and I believe she relates in many ways to Hillary.

You'd think she'd find it easier to relate to Carly Fiorina.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 11:25 AM (E5UB0)

88
Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Clinton's biography: Ctrl+Alt+Del

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 05, 2015 11:25 AM (OiFtZ)

89 O/T:
The Bishop of Stockholm has proposed a church in her diocese remove all signs of the cross and put down markings showing the direction to Mecca for the benefit of Muslim worshippers.

Eva Brunne, who was made the world's first openly lesbian bishop by the church of Sweden in 2009, and has a young son with her wife and fellow lesbian priest Gunilla Linden, made the suggestion to make those of other faiths more welcome.


It's stories like these that show how opening your mind can make your brain fall out.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:26 AM (NOIQH)

90 Pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: Grump928(c) ponders at October 05, 2015 11:27 AM (evdj2)

91 I say again: disarm ghetto rats first - they're the ones responsible for the vast majority of gun violence. Besides, talk about disparate impact ...


And where are the studies on where they get their guns? I'm guessing it's not gun shows.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:27 AM (oKE6c)

92 Congress can be by-passed (because you damn well know the press wouldn't allow a Republican to do this).

And there, in a nutshell, is why this nation teeters on the brink of anarchy.

D-Lamp was a prophet without honor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2015 11:27 AM (zF6Iw)

93 A couple of things:

1) There seems to be an increase in the number of mentally ill males. Maybe we should look at what drugs and chemicals we are pumping into young boys and into the environment. It's not good.

2) There are many aspects of today's society that are literally insane and could cause marginally stable people to go over the edge, like constantly telling white males that they are evil and must be exterminated, that men are rapists if they even look at a woman, etc. This latest killer and the previous one are black or half black, and may have been influenced by the #blacklivesmatter bullshit. The people and institutions that originate and propagate these lies need to be held to account and stopped, and the truth needs to be told.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (VrdxH)

94 This is ultimately about one thing: confiscation. Unless you force all sales to be documented, you cannot create a comprehensive registry. If you don't have a comprehensive registry of all the guns, you cannot confiscate (or attempt to confiscate) all the guns.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (nL0sw)

95 Buy a used gun from an individual seller. Hide it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (u5gzz)

96 89 O/T:
The Bishop of Stockholm has proposed a church in her diocese remove all signs of the cross and put down markings showing the direction to Mecca for the benefit of Muslim worshippers.

Eva Brunne, who was made the world's first openly lesbian bishop by the church of Sweden in 2009, and has a young son with her wife and fellow lesbian priest Gunilla Linden, made the suggestion to make those of other faiths more welcome.

It's stories like these that show how opening your mind can make your brain fall out.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:26 AM (NOIQH)

Sigh. It's never pretty when Lutherans go wild. I'm thinking there's jello involved and I just don't want that image in my head.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 05, 2015 11:29 AM (RD7QR)

97 So Mr. White?Black murderer in Oregon bought His guns at a gun show....?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 11:29 AM (hUdMz)

98 Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Clinton's biography: Ctrl+Alt+Del
Posted by: Doctor Fish
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That would at least preserve the status quo. She's more like, smash the motherboard with a sledgehammer.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 11:30 AM (E5UB0)

99 So that's how to eliminate a Constitutionally recognized Right?

Good to know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 11:30 AM (VPLuQ)

100 Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (nL0sw)

With data mining and access to credit card and cellular company records (which the government has), I'll bet they could identify 99% of the gun owners in America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 11:30 AM (Zu3d9)

101 84 Candidates should be forced to confirm now that they will abide by their oath of office if elected.
Posted by: Snake Plissken at October 05, 2015 11:21 AM (pZpIo)




Ask them what they think should happen to any government official who appears to have broken the law.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:30 AM (oKE6c)

102 D-Lamp was a prophet without honor.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


A knight without armor in a savage land.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 11:30 AM (W5DcG)

103 I thought the whole ballgame in Christianity is believing that the only way into Heaven is through Jesus?

So this interfaith bullshit is basically being perpetrated by people that aren't of the faith and just look at it as a job.

I'm not a Christian, but I have a pretty good read on that, right?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (CGjum)

104 "Buy a used gun from an individual seller. Hide it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (u5gzz)

Better yet. Have someone with a backwoods machine shop build you a new one from plans you printed off the net. If you look, you can find several.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (dOD0J)

105 Gun control - its been a winning issue since 1992.

Posted by: SH at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (gmeXX)

106
Ask them what they think should happen to any government official who appears to have broken the law.

Or a "Journalist?" who does it on National TV...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (hUdMz)

107 Sorry, Vic with No Party. On this one, they'd be whipped into compliance, exactly like they were for the Christmas Eve Obamacare Reconciliation (fraud) Vote.

You're right in normal terms and conditions. Those toss-up State dems cower on the entire issue. But in the end, they'll do as they're told.

On guns, they just haven't "been told" yet, and it's always been left to the electoral math matrix as to whether their votes were "demanded" or "expendable". This time around, the dems will not allow any "expendable" votes.

I might well be wrong, but I don't think that I am.

This is every bit as much as a Democrat Brass Ring as was nationalized health insurance.

They're relentless, and they have to be utterly and soundly defeated, because they will absolutely never give up.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (McRlu)

108 2015 study of Chicago inmates

~80% of guns obtained by criminals were obtained from friends or family members. NOT gun shows or dealers. Surprisingly, very few were stolen.

http://tinyurl.com/qeytehc

Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (nCSwS)

109 Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-N.Y.) on Friday said Democratic lawmakers should shut down the federal government until Congress passes stricter gun control laws.

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I fully support that plan.

Posted by: SH at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

110 D-Lamp was a prophet without honor.

Not gonna deny, when that live shooting back East took place, that was the first name that sprung to mind.

Beginning to feel like the way the First is read to cover the press may have been a mistake. Accountability is badly needed, and I'd prefer it not come through vigilantism.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (9krrF)

111 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (dOD0J)

Hell....just have him finish an 80% lower and buy the rest of the parts, or a complete upper, off the grid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (Zu3d9)

112 If you don't have a comprehensive registry of all the guns, you cannot confiscate (or attempt to confiscate) all the legal guns.
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 11:28 AM (nL0sw)



Those of the gang bangers, not so much.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (oKE6c)

113 I'm a Republican who supports the 2nd amendment, but if the extremists refuse to stand up to the special interests and stop mass shootings, this action may be required.

I salute Ms. Clinton for having the wisdom and courage to discuss these issues, while the leading candidates on my Republican side are freakshows.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (Ui7Rt)

114 You'd think she'd find it easier to relate to Carly Fiorina.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 11:25 AM (E5UB0)

One would think that.
A couple of weeks ago, she posted an article listing all of Carly's lies regarding the PP abortion videos.

If you are a Democrat, the Democrat religious tenets are more important than family, friends, or society as a whole. I believe this is why they sympathize so strongly with radical Muslims, they admire the Muslims adherence, in the face of complete contradictory evidence and decency, to their beliefs in beheadings, rape, etc. No amount of evidence, decency or common sense is going to deter a modern Democrat from believing what they are told.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (rFdsN)

115 I thought it was found that they weren't deleting the background check information once the transaction was complete, and gave Congress a big F-U we're gonna keep doing it anyways?

So, The Man already knows you're a gun owner and they don't need to even bother looking at the gun store's logs to know that.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (CGjum)

116 "So adding this restriction on private sales (and that's what this about) wouldn't do anything except expand the role of the federal government into ever more private activities."


And based on the sterling job performance by the VA we can assume that this expanded role will be done with the competence for which the federal government has become renowned.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (hLRSq)

117 In Australia where guns are banned, terrorists with guns took hostages and killed people. Even in China, with its authoritarian government, there have been mass killings using knives. In Japan, it was poison gas in the subway. Here, it was box cutters and airliners. Over the weekend Trump wisely admitted that no matter what you do, these things will happen, but armed teachers, or at least an armed security guard, could have prevented at least some of the deaths.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (VrdxH)

118 108 2015 study of Chicago inmates
~80% of guns obtained by criminals were obtained from friends or family members. NOT gun shows or dealers. Surprisingly, very few were stolen.
http://tinyurl.com/qeytehc
Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (nCSwS)




That's amazing, assuming the study corrected for the obvious statistical problem: a gun originally obtained by theft, followed by ten "hand me downs," should be accounted for as obtained by theft, i.e. the subsequent transfers shouldn't count.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (oKE6c)

119 I think that what should be the most troubling about this to people isn't that Hillary says that she will do this, is the fact that this implied power is now something that is unquestionable - that it is an absolute power available to the executive.

Lies repeated enough, become truths. That's not true, but it is true that lies, when repeated enough, become accepted. And that is especially true in our political system it seems. There are innumerable examples in our politics that once something begins to be repeated, it becomes truth:

Tax increases that are less than what was desired are tax cuts. Money collected from individuals in taxes becomes 'federal money'. A cut in the growth of federal spending becomes a cut in overall government spending. The list could go on forever and these things are all bad, but they become innocuous, insidious truths that we not only ignore, but we take for granted.

It's bad shit, but it becomes part of our 'democracy' and we accept it.

That's the dangerous part of this, in my weak mind.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 11:36 AM (BZAd3)

120 That's amazing, assuming the study corrected for the obvious statistical problem: a gun originally obtained by theft, followed by ten "hand me downs," should be accounted for as obtained by theft, i.e. the subsequent transfers shouldn't count.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (oKE6c)

Exactly what I thought...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 11:36 AM (hUdMz)

121 If I got elected again, I would ban Hillary Clinton by fiat.

Posted by: Soon to be Zombie Jimmay Carter at October 05, 2015 11:36 AM (D0NZx)

122 Saw somewhere an analysis of just what gun confiscation would entail.

something like, "if just 1% of gun owners were willing to resist, that's over 800,000."

800,000 dead, minimum. To say nothing of those they'd take with them.

And, the author of that didn't note: The size of the entire US military is only 1.2 million.


Good gawd we are going to have another bloody fucking civil war--and the nasty fucking leftists are cheering this on.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (ZvKdv)

123 111 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (dOD0J)

Hell....just have him finish an 80% lower and buy the rest of the parts, or a complete upper, off the grid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (Zu3d9)

That's one of those ghost guns that can empty a 30-caliber clip in under 1.5 seconds, right?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (2Ojst)

124 Those of the gang bangers, not so much.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:33 AM (oKE6c)




Voting for the gun-grabbers makes their job easier.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (nL0sw)

125 And where are the studies on where they get their guns? I'm guessing it's not gun shows.
Dredging Lake Michigan.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (gmaUh)

126 Legal Sophistry... is the Death of Freedom.

When growing feed for your own chicken becomes InterSTATE commerce...

When Money becomes speech... but only sometimes...

When Corporations become people.. but only sometimes...

When suddenly 'the people' covered under the Constitution becomes those here illegally... so we HAVE to treat them the same as Citizens...

And when the government forcing us to buy a commercial product becomes a Tax, that's not a Tax....

Its all sophistry to subvert the Freedoms that our Constitution was supposed to protect.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (qh617)

127 In my opinion as a minister it is fine to occasionally have Interfaith services such as for Thanksgiving or prayer services for peace. I've done it several times. It is absolutely unacceptable for a minister of the Gospel to take down crosses. Jesus' death and resurrection is the foundation of our faith. If you need to take down the cross to make people feel comfortable you don't belong in any Christian pulpit. I have a feeling this particular minister may be a UU in Church of Swede clothing. The practicing Muslims outnumber the Christians, I imagine. She's trying to save her skin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (cgZPg)

128 Crap, this means a run on ammunition and magazines again. Up goes the prices and down goes the supply.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 11:02 AM (+lSVr)


I swear, it's almost if Colt, Remington, and Ruger are paying these politicians to say these things.


...hey, wait a minute!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (hLRSq)

129 I thought the whole ballgame in Christianity is believing that the only way into Heaven is through Jesus?

So this interfaith bullshit is basically being perpetrated by people that aren't of the faith and just look at it as a job.

I'm not a Christian, but I have a pretty good read on that, right?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (CGjum)

First, when you have a church who discards church teachings to allow an openly lesbian become a priest along with her openly lesbian priest partner, why would anyone be shocked that the next step is to eliminate other symbols and tenets of faith in order to open up to alternate faith and lifestyles?

And what Muslim is going to go to this church headed by two lesbians females to worship?

These people do not live in reality, other than the one in their head.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (rFdsN)

130 Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (2Ojst)

I wonder how difficult it is to install a full-auto sear in a stock AR-15?

I am no expert, but I would bet that the design of the civilian version makes it tough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (Zu3d9)

131 CBD

Depends on what kind ow weapon you want and what type of ammo it uses.

The longer the cartridge the more material you will need and the longer it will take to produce ammo to go along with it.

Plans for several weapons of soviet ww2 vintage weapons can be found. One weapon has only 43 parts. Most of them can be stamped, simplifying the process.

Ammo will be the real bottle neck. Unless you have your own mine, lead is getting harder to find.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 11:40 AM (dOD0J)

132 Big biceps are micro aggression. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 05, 2015 11:40 AM (iQIUe)

133 These mass shootings are increasing NRA membership, so that's great.

I mean the NRA is great, of course. Not the shootings.

Shit.

Posted by: Kevin 'Trustable' McCarthy at October 05, 2015 11:41 AM (Ui7Rt)

134 Unless you have your own mine, lead is getting harder to find.
Use silver. It'll work on werewolves too.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 05, 2015 11:41 AM (gmaUh)

135 And if you're embarrassed by Jesus and won't witness for him (such as in taking down crosses), he won't witness for you. That's my paraphrase of Matthew 10:33

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 11:42 AM (cgZPg)

136 Speaking of not owning guns it occurs to me that since the Left has no inherent virtues, they must co-opt traditional virtues and try to reinvent them for their own use. So they reach their mid-thirties and finally discover what most of us learned when we were 12-year-old

Boy Scouts. I give you the Modern Man motto.

A Modern Man is:

Trustworthy "On occasion, the modern man is the little spoon, and who doesn't truts the little spoon?"

Loyal "The modern man buys only regular colas, like Coke or Dr. Pepper because brand loyalty matters."

Helpful "He makes sure his spouse's phone and his kids' electronic devices are charging for the night."

Friendly "The modern man still waves at his neighbor as he ambles half-naked down his driveway each morning to scoop up a crisp

newspaper."

Courteous "At the movie theater, he won't munch down a mouthful of popcorn during a quiet moment."

Kind "The modern man buys fresh flowers more to surprise his wife than to say he is sorry."

Obedient "The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn't own one, and he never will because President Hillary said not to."

Cheerful "The modern man doesn't scold his daughter when she sneezes while eating an apple doughnut."

Thrifty "Every bite of steak is a privilege, and it all goes down the hatch."

Brave "The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off."

Clean "The modern man checks the status of his Irish Spring bar before jumping in for a wash."

Reverent "The modern man cries. He cries often, realizing he has nothing in his life worthy of reverence."



(No real pixels were harmed in the re-editing of these quotes.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 11:42 AM (NeFrd)

137 Unless you have your own mine, lead is getting harder to find.
Use silver. It'll work on werewolves too.


I'm not sure that all-white cowboy kit and a raccoon mask are really my style.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 05, 2015 11:43 AM (JtwS4)

138 It's like Ace has said previously, modern liberalism is basically just revenge fantasy against people they don't like.


Someone that goes to a gun show is considered evil, so it's time to shut the whole thing down, which is what this proposal would do.

BTW, I'm actually glad Democrats are engaging this issue because we ALWAYS win when it comes to the 2nd Amendment.

I honestly believe Obama would have been a 1 term President had he gone after guns earlier.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 11:43 AM (lvuzz)

139 if she was still a politician from AR instead of NY

She was NEVER a politician from AR. She was never a politician in Arkansas. She was a politicians wife.

Posted by: Lea at October 05, 2015 11:43 AM (lIU4e)

140 Mitch should have a bill on the Senate floor tomorrow implementing this for her majesty -- lets see how many Dims vote for it.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 11:44 AM (ztOda)

141
108 2015 study of Chicago inmates
~80% of guns obtained by criminals were obtained from friends or family members. NOT gun shows or dealers. Surprisingly, very few were stolen.
http://tinyurl.com/qeytehc
Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (nCSwS)



That's amazing, assuming the study corrected for the obvious statistical problem: a gun originally obtained by theft, followed by ten "hand me downs," should be accounted for as obtained by theft, i.e. the subsequent transfers shouldn't count.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (oKE6c)








As I understand it, there's a big urban gang market for "rented" guns. Rent it for your revenge killing/home invasion/robbery/drive-by shooting, then return so it can be rented to another miscreant.

By the time the cops get their hands on it, there's a dozen or more murders that come up with the ballistics. Which makes it nearly impossible to use the forensics to get an arrest/conviction for the majority of the killings associated with the gun, because there's no real connection between the gun and the perp.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 11:44 AM (UBLhq)

142 "I am no expert, but I would bet that the design of the civilian version makes it tough."

My understanding is that it makes it either very very hard, or impossible.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 11:44 AM (VPLuQ)

143 So when will the NRA make an announcement thanking the Hildabeast for helping turn out the pro-gun vote?

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 11:45 AM (ry4ab)

144 (No real pixels were harmed in the re-editing of these quotes.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon


/blinks twice

I recognize the framework. I wonder if the Empress will let me..."borrow" the Ravage...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 11:45 AM (9krrF)

145 So, they say we can't deport 11 million illegal aliens but confiscating 300 million guns is totally possible.
Got it.

Posted by: navybrat at October 05, 2015 11:45 AM (ETxiG)

146 I say again: disarm ghetto rats first - they're the ones responsible for the vast majority of gun violence. Besides, talk about disparate impact ...


And where are the studies on where they get their guns? I'm guessing it's not gun shows.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:27 AM (oKE6c)

Wrong....I would like more guns and keep illegal drugs illegal so the violence goes through the roof in da ghetto. Just keepin it real G and all according to my plan, remember?

Posted by: Zombie Lyndon Baines Johnson at October 05, 2015 11:45 AM (D0NZx)

147 >>The practicing Muslims outnumber the Christians, I imagine. She's trying to save her skin.

Yep, and as a woman and lesbian she is especially clueless as to how much they despise her in particular.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (NOIQH)

148 No wonder idiot's get confused.

Read down to the part about where criminals get their guns.


http://records.com/what-is-included-in-a-background-check-for-a-gun

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (VPLuQ)

149 Posted by: RoyalOil at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (ZvKdv)


Deporting eleven million illegals is logistically impossible, but disarming sixty million gun owners is.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (YQA13)

150 Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (rFdsN)



The Ten Commandments ---> the Half Dozen Polite Suggestions

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (oKE6c)

151 What is the point of sending a liberal to law school when they can't even understand the Bill of Rights?

I'm looking at you Hillary, Barack and Holder.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (4AVeu)

152 >>So, they say we can't deport 11 million illegal aliens but confiscating 300 million guns is totally possible.
Got it.

Also:
Obamacare = The law of the land!!
2nd Amendment = Negotiable to the point that it is all but eliminated

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH)

153 In my opinion as a minister it is fine to occasionally have Interfaith services such as for Thanksgiving or prayer services for peace. I've done it several times. It is absolutely unacceptable for a minister of the Gospel to take down crosses. Jesus' death and resurrection is the foundation of our faith. If you need to take down the cross to make people feel comfortable you don't belong in any Christian pulpit. I have a feeling this particular minister may be a UU in Church of Swede clothing. The practicing Muslims outnumber the Christians, I imagine. She's trying to save her skin.

muslims already have their own churches, so why turn a Christian church into a mosque? Do they not already know which building they're walking into?

She should be somewhere else, not lying to her congregation or kowtowing to muz. She should be kicked out of that church.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (LUgeY)

154 As I understand it, there's a big urban gang market for "rented" guns. Rent it for your revenge killing/home invasion/robbery/drive-by shooting, then return so it can be rented to another miscreant.
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Maybe they should rent out one that you don't need to hold sideways to shoot and can actually hit the target , instead of people standing nearby.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (VndSC)

155 I wonder how difficult it is to install a full-auto sear in a stock AR-15?

I am no expert, but I would bet that the design of the civilian version makes it tough.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 11:39 AM (Zu3d9)

Good question. I suspect that getting your hands on the full-auto sear is the hard part.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (2Ojst)

156 As I understand it, there's a big urban gang market
for "rented" guns. Rent it for your revenge killing/home
invasion/robbery/drive-by shooting, then return so it can be rented to
another miscreant.





Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 11:44 AM (UBLhq)


Now if they only showed that kind of entrepreneurial spirit in other contexts ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (oKE6c)

157 NRA: The government is not interested in your personal safety against threats foreign and domestic. The government will take your guns and leave you defenseless so the government can rule unchecked and unchallenged for your own "good".

Hillary!2016: That is exactly right!

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (ry4ab)

158 122
And, the author of that didn't note: The size of the entire US military is only 1.2 million.

Good gawd we are going to have another bloody fucking civil war--and the nasty fucking leftists are cheering this on.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (ZvKdv)/i]


How many armed members of Federal agencies? Those are the ones who are really going to come for us.

They consider us the enemy. We're the ones who want to downsize or eliminate Federal agencies, which will cost them their jobs and pensions.

They will fight to keep them.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (zoehZ)

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (zoehZ)

160 Deporting eleven million illegals is logistically impossible, but disarming sixty million gun owners is.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (YQA13)




They expect the status quo: the illegals are going to break the law anyway, so why bother? Likewise, those law-abiding gun owners will just turn over their guns because the government told them to. Right?

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (nL0sw)

161 Maybe they should rent out one that you don't need
to hold sideways to shoot and can actually hit the target , instead of
people standing nearby.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (VndSC)


Safest place to stand is right in front of the intended target.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (oKE6c)

162 So I'm waiting for Little VIA at the church which sponsored his Boy Scout Troop.


And then I see this logo prominently displayed in the lobby.

And my heart sinks.

http://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (VPLuQ)

163 I'll Implement Gun Restrictions By Fiat.

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lol what does a car have to do with guns lol

Posted by: LIV at October 05, 2015 11:50 AM (VAsIq)

164 Safest place to stand is right in front of the intended target.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 11:49 AM (oKE6c)

Works on gangbangers and NYPD.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:50 AM (2Ojst)

165 >>First, when you have a church who discards church teachings to allow an openly lesbian become a priest along with her openly lesbian priest partner, why would anyone be shocked that the next step is to eliminate other symbols and tenets of faith in order to open up to alternate faith and lifestyles?


Yep. Once one (big) rule is broken the remaining ones are seen as merely optional, negotiable.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:50 AM (NOIQH)

166 In Australia where guns are banned, terrorists with guns took hostages and killed people.
Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:35 AM (VrdxH)

Guns are not banned in Austrailia, including handguns.

The gov. regulates who can have a gun, and for what purpose(gee, isnt that nice). You have to belong to a gun club or have a farm, etc. proving need for a shotgun and rifle. For a handgun, you have to do the same thing, including so many visits per year to target shoot.

Bullshit, yes. Australia doesn't have the second amendment, so this is the kind of gov. benevolence you get from your betters.

Estimated their are 5 million firearms in Austrailia.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:51 AM (rFdsN)

167 A knight without armor in a savage land.

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Does he have a gun and will he travel?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 11:51 AM (fFIVI)

168 She should be somewhere else, not lying to her congregation or kowtowing to muz. She should be kicked out of that church.

I suspect the congregation at that church is non-existent. I bet that liberal harpy has driven off all the Christians years ago.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 11:52 AM (ztOda)

169 Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 11:37 AM (qh617)

The greatest agent of destruction and enemy of freedom may be the Supreme Court. It was a mistake the founders must have regretted.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:52 AM (VrdxH)

170 Gun violence at 60 year low.

Gun ownership at all time high.

These dillholes don't deal in facts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 05, 2015 11:52 AM (659DL)

171 Bullshit, yes. Australia doesn't have the second amendment, so this is the kind of gov. benevolence you get from your betters.

Estimated their are 5 million firearms in Austrailia.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 05, 2015 11:51 AM (rFdsN)

Well, Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, as everyone knows.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:53 AM (2Ojst)

172 >> Likewise, those law-abiding gun owners will just turn over their guns because the government told them to. Right?

Wasn't that not the case recently in CT where gun owners were supposed to register their weapons and the majority didn't? Major civil disobedience. No idea how people will react if the state/feds went door-to-door, though.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH)

173 Well, Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, as everyone knows.

Drunk criminals. With kangaroos.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 05, 2015 11:54 AM (659DL)

174 Estimated their are 5 million firearms in Austrailia.

And if a jihadi wants to fire one outside of a police station, it's easy enough for him to do so.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 05, 2015 11:54 AM (Xd2w5)

175 Most of the parts that you'd need to make an AR full auto are out there and legal. I always buy full-auto BCG's for my AR's. The bitch is the sear (and I believe the holes in the receiver are placed differently, too). You even own a sear and they'll hit you for an NFA violation.

But if you've got the plans, don't see why it wouldn't be doable with a decent knowledge of machining. Not that I see much use for it; if you aren't laying down suppressing fire it's not super useful, and if SHTF, there will be plenty of giggle-switch equipped AR's lying on the ground.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:55 AM (CGjum)

176 I scream and scream and scream about the delegation doctrine because it
matters. One of the primary checks on untrammeled governmental
authority is making sure that legislation is written by legislators who
can be voted out if they go too far. Well, the administrative state
removes that pesky problem.




Legislation-laundering.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 05, 2015 11:55 AM (0dcbp)

177 162
So I'm waiting for Little VIA at the church which sponsored his Boy Scout Troop.



And then I see this logo prominently displayed in the lobby.



And my heart sinks.



http://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/
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Holy Gee-sus, the SJW Gospel crowd is everywhere now! It's why I stopped attending ELCA churches on a regular basis. Brother-in-Law is UM pastor, but he hasn't endorsed such a platform, nor has anyone called him to do so...yet. Of course his parish is in the north OH cornfields so it's unlikely to come up, but it's waiting at his next one, no doubt.




Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 11:55 AM (ry4ab)

178 Royaloil, the left is cheering it on because they are convinced that the govt will crush us like bugs in a heartbeat. The fact that even IF it goes that way, that a number of leftists will be taken out does not occur to them.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 11:55 AM (0x/TW)

179 "Guns are not banned in Australia, including handguns."

Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:56 AM (VrdxH)

180 >>Unless you have your own mine, lead is getting harder to find.


Boat Anchor makes a lot of projectiles.


Posted by: Paolo at October 05, 2015 11:56 AM (3Hskx)

181 The Geneva Small Arms Survey cited in the very anti-gun Wall St Jrnl article today says that there are 270 million firearms in the U.S. So the New Boss will be able to claim 110 million less from day one, making "mopping up" seem real do-able.

I don't know why so many people think statistics is a science, or, like, math.
It's just another weapon in the hands of your enemies. You'll die by it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 05, 2015 11:56 AM (xq1UY)

182 >>The fact that even IF it goes that way, that a number of leftists will be taken out does not occur to them.

Yep, witness the BLM nonsense. Police are evil killers that make our cities unsafe AND YET we want only the government to have guns.

Does
Not
Compute

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 11:57 AM (NOIQH)

183 The obvious solution is to invade several countries and bring their western-culture-loving refugees here to vote for conservatives.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at October 05, 2015 11:57 AM (Ui7Rt)

184 "Enlightened despotism"

Learn that term. The Left has gone back to the French Revolution.

They always go back to the French Revolution.

Sadly, we won't be lucky enough to get a Napoleon, no we get stuck with Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 05, 2015 11:57 AM (Xd2w5)

185 Yep. Once one (big) rule is broken the remaining ones are seen as merely optional, negotiable.
Posted by: Lizzy

_________________________

My opinion is 90% of the driving force behind gay marriage is this principle.

Once a very taboo thing regarding morality gets not only smashed but openly celebrated, it's a blank check to do whatever they want.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 11:59 AM (lvuzz)

186
No longer interested in discussing possible gun confiscation.

I've already decided on my response to the question, but won't divulge it on the Internet.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 12:00 PM (jeCnD)

187 I forsee gun trusts becoming much more popular.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 05, 2015 12:00 PM (4nmNX)

188 The greatest agent of destruction and enemy of freedom may be the Supreme Court. It was a mistake the founders must have regretted.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 05, 2015 11:52 AM (VrdxH)


The greatest threat to the Freedom of the US, can be encapsulated by a phrase that HAS been used by the US Supreme Court...

ie... that the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

They then use that 'idea' to destroy the very freedoms explicitly stated BY the Constitution.

They change it without amendment... and ignore explicitly stated prohibitions, to embrace Powers only granted through Legal Sophistry.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 12:00 PM (qh617)

189 "These dillholes don't deal in facts."

As with most things of the left, reality throws a wrench in the works. So, they ignore it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 12:00 PM (LA7Cm)

190
"I am no expert, but I would bet that the design of the civilian version makes it tough."

My understanding is that it makes it either very very hard, or impossible.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 11:44 AM (VPLuQ)








IIRC, MilSpec FA parts are fairly difficult to adapt to semiauto AR15s, but there are Drop In Auto Sears that supposedly work fine. When the FA manufacturing ban went into effect, there was a HUGE manufacturing/licensing push on DIASs which were legally licensed before the ban start date.

You can still find them for legal transfer on occasion, except they're insanely expensive. There's one on gunbroker right now for $29k. Yes, 29 thousand dollars. Looks like it'd cost about $20 to manufacture.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 12:01 PM (UBLhq)

191
"Drunk criminals. With kangaroos."

The kangaroos are drunk too?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 12:01 PM (0x/TW)

192 @175 you can own a sear so long as you do not also own an AR15.

Posted by: blaster at October 05, 2015 12:01 PM (2Ocf1)

193 160
Deporting eleven million illegals is logistically impossible, but disarming sixty million gun owners is.



Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 11:46 AM (YQA13)







They expect the status quo: the illegals are going to break the law
anyway, so why bother? Likewise, those law-abiding gun owners will just
turn over their guns because the government told them to. Right?
----------
My dear Singer, I don't believe half of the Left understand the ultimate result of their actions any more than King George's ministers understood where their actions would ultimately lead. Some of the gun-grabbiers would love nothing better than to use confiscation as a means of forcing a showdown or otherwise dealing with troublesome bitter-clingers. Some of them are Kool-Aid drinkers who would be genuinely shocked when told "no". Some of them are Pollyannas who seem unable to understand that crime starts in the heart, not the wallet or the neighborhood. But all of them would join together in expecting us to all line up and turn in our weapons, or face the consequences. Because only BAD people disobey the government, right?

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:02 PM (ry4ab)

194 As I understand it, there's a big urban gang market for "rented" guns. Rent it for your revenge killing/home invasion/robbery/drive-by shooting, then return so it can be rented to another miscreant.

Ubang.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 12:03 PM (LUgeY)

195 @blaster

What kind of commie doesn't own at least one AR?

I kid; yes, you are completely correct.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:03 PM (CGjum)

196 ""I am no expert, but I would bet that the design of the civilian version makes it tough."


www.bumpfiresystems.com

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 12:04 PM (LA7Cm)

197 "Reconciling Ministries Network mobilizes United Methodists of all sexual orientations and gender identities to transform our Church and world into the full expression of Christ's inclusive love."

This is no shock. UMC leans liberal. Their American constituents are just as bad as the Episcopal Church, PCUSA and ELCA.

The only thing that keeps them from going over the cliff as quickly as the others is the fact that the African branch is yuge, and very conservatives.

The Americans libs have been plotting to reduce their influence. Maybe it worked? You know they are like zombies. They never give up.

I'm not sure what (if any) conservative counterpart is to the UMC. I'm sure John Wesley is rolling over in his grave, seeing as how the Book of Discipline specifically condemns this sort of sexual sin.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 12:04 PM (E5UB0)

198 very *conservative*

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 12:04 PM (E5UB0)

199 I heard the Hindabeast propose that we establish a "No Fly Zone" over Syria. This being a smart military blog...wouldn't that pretty much put Maverick and Iceman in a showdown with Boris and Ivan and WWIII?

Posted by: Paladin at October 05, 2015 12:05 PM (bxc5w)

200 My dear Singer, I don't believe half of the Left understand the ultimate result of their actions...

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:02 PM (ry4ab)




I concur and would opine that the level is much less than half.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 12:05 PM (nL0sw)

201 Sadly, we won't be lucky enough to get a Napoleon, no we get stuck with Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 05, 2015 11:57 AM (Xd2w5)



Actually... historic trends all point to a despot... we may not get LUCKY enough to get a Napoleon...

But the trend also shows that if the despot cannot deliver on basic economic reform, AND public safety... he / she / xe will be replaced by another despot who can....

And I don't see either Obama or Clinton being competent enough to run this country and fix problems.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 12:05 PM (qh617)

202 Sooner or later,Ace is gonna get tired of me hauling shit over here from Zip's place.

But until then, another feel good story of the day.


http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=235986

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:05 PM (VPLuQ)

203 Did anyone get gun magazines like in the 90's?

Do you remember those ads for "Hell-Fire" in the back?

Wasn't it something like the trigger "bounced" off of your finger or some such loophole? I was always wondered how they got away with that.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 12:06 PM (lvuzz)

204 With practice, it's possible to shoot SA about as quickly as you can with a bump-stock.

Mind, a lot of practice, but it's doable.

Certainly not saying I can do it, as I almost never shoot rifle.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:07 PM (CGjum)

205 "The kangaroos are drunk too?"

Just what we need, a drunk kangaroo with a concealed carry permit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:07 PM (VPLuQ)

206 Gun violence at 60 year low.

Gun ownership at all time high.

These dillholes don't deal in facts.


This isn't about facts. It was never about facts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 12:08 PM (ham8J)

207 The size of the entire US military is only 1.2 million.

The number of people who go deer hunting in a weekend in WI during the gun season makes the hunters, in the woods, in WI the 8th largest army in the world.

At least those were the stats I saw recently.

Posted by: GMan at October 05, 2015 12:08 PM (sxq57)

208

You could not pay me to see a movie about Steve Jobs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 05, 2015 12:08 PM (AdpVm)

209 I think the Hellfire was the one that had a rocking trigger that fired when you pushed and pulled?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:09 PM (CGjum)

210 At these prices, you won't get many more.

Posted by: A Kangaroo In A Bar at October 05, 2015 12:09 PM (ham8J)

211 This isn't about facts. It was never about facts.

Never let a tragedy go to waste....

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 12:09 PM (hUdMz)

212 well the koalas are stoned so the kangaroos may as well be drunk

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 05, 2015 12:10 PM (0O7c5)

213 Don't kangaroo's kill more people in Australia every year than sharks?

Speaking of statistics and all that...

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:10 PM (CGjum)

214 184
"Enlightened despotism"



Learn that term. The Left has gone back to the French Revolution.



They always go back to the French Revolution.



Sadly, we won't be lucky enough to get a Napoleon, no we get stuck with Obama or Clinton.
------------
Oh no, the hypothetical future Napoleon will arrive in due course to clean up the mess caused by the Obama and the Clinton. The whole point of fundamental transformation is to make it possible for the Dictatorship of the Proletariat to be created in the USA. Many of the useful idiots currently making trouble will eventually get the STFU and STFD orders from the Dictatorship when it takes over. Those who do not get in line will receive Napoleon's solution to disorderly mobs that have outlived their purpose.

The real stinger that the Left always forgets is that they can create a Bonaparte, a Stalin, or a Guevera. But they cannot control him, and if they cannot send him away from the capitol fast enough he will own them all. Some of the current Leftists though are foolish enough to think that would be better than the current Republic though....

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:11 PM (ry4ab)

215 I've found the bee under Hillary's bonnet.
Three years ago, her alma mater Yale re-established its rifle club.
And this weekend, they had their first victory, in a match with Canisius.

Note these are clubs, not NCAA teams. MIT also has a rifle club.
NRA's collegiate national is for the club schools, not the varsity teams.
An old friend of mine is a department head at Canisius.
I'll have to send sympathies.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 05, 2015 12:11 PM (xq1UY)

216 172,

I'm taking a guess it would go about as well as "no knock" raids at the wrong house do.

By that, I mean cops breaking in without IDing themselves then wondering why citizens shoot them because they think it is a home invasion.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 05, 2015 12:11 PM (hTPJO)

217 Don't kangaroo's kill more people in Australia every year than sharks?

And Moose in Alaska way more than bears...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 12:11 PM (hUdMz)

218 You could not pay me to see a movie about Steve Jobs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 05, 2015 12:08 PM (AdpVm)

me either......i love my apple products but i really don't care about steve jobs.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 05, 2015 12:12 PM (0O7c5)

219 Here's a little from TAH on the topic:

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=62155

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 12:12 PM (nL0sw)

220 I'm waiting for someone to come up with an electronic trigger and solenoid firing circuit, similar to modern paintball markers.

I can walk the trigger and get about 12-15 rounds per second myself.

Little VIA, who plays speedball on the tournament circuit can rock at almost 30 rounds per second on short bursts with the trigger set perfect.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:12 PM (VPLuQ)

221 Boy, Hillary isn't getting any mileage out of McCarthy's fuck up, is she?

Let's make that boy Speaker so he can apply the same amount of smartness to all our business.

Posted by: jwest at October 05, 2015 12:13 PM (Zs4uk)

222 AA Pilot died in flight.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 05, 2015 12:13 PM (iQIUe)

223
FIXERS IDEAS TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE

1.) Mandatory LIFE/Capital Punishment with no parol for the deliberate taking a life in the commission of a felony (allowances for no Capitol states). Legislatively prohibit lessor plea deals.

2.)25 Year minimum/mandatory for using a firearm in the commission of a felony.

3.)25 Year minimum/mandatory for theft of any firearm.

4.) 15 Year minimum/mandatory for a prior felon in possession of a firearm.

5.) 15 Year minimum/mandatory for straw purchases of firearms.


... but ... none of those will EVER happen because the left *REALLY* isnt about reducing gun violence.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 12:13 PM (8XRCm)

224 209 I think the Hellfire was the one that had a rocking trigger that fired when you pushed and pulled?
Posted by: Chupacabra
_______________________

I guess I would have to see it in action to understand how it worked.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 12:13 PM (lvuzz)

225 I'm always thinking about doing an NFA trust, but the only reason I'd really need it is for a suppressor for the bedstand gun, and maybe SBR/suppress a PS90.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:14 PM (CGjum)

226 Manatees take a few lives every year when Florida Men try to wrestle them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 12:14 PM (ham8J)

227 I see that Pope Frankie the Boehner is now more popular here in the US than before he came. He may be more popular with the hate religion, Christianity, and Catholics crowd but I wonder what his popularity is with church goers.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 12:15 PM (fFIVI)

228 Don't look at Drudge unless You want to be scared.. It's the all new and improved Angry Hillary!.... When will they come out with the Chia pet?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 12:15 PM (hUdMz)

229 Someone upthread already mentioned Obama's admiration for Australia's 'solution to the gun problem'; i.e., outright, door-to-door confiscation.

Do the Democrats really think they can pull that off--nationwide door-to-door confiscation, I mean? I can see any number of ways where sending cops or troops or whoever the hell to individual private homes on gun sweeps could end catastrophically and potentially spark widespread insurrection.

I guess what I'm asking is if Obama (or his Democratic successor should the Dems win the White House in 2016) would be willing to risk Civil War in order to disarm the populace? In my view, the only thing preventing a socialist dictatorship is the prevalence of privately owned firearms. The Left knows this, too. What are the odds, I wonder, they'll get impatient andoverreach?

Posted by: troyriser at October 05, 2015 12:15 PM (CMthJ)

230 AA Pilot died in flight.

A lot of that going around.

Posted by: zombie Johnny Strange at October 05, 2015 12:15 PM (ZtFr+)

231 @Coolio

You used your index finger to pull the trigger, then the middle finger to "push" the trigger to where the reset would be. The gun would go "bang" at the apex of each action.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:16 PM (CGjum)

232 Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.
The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at October 05, 2015 12:16 PM (uPxUo)

233 This horror show Obama has gifted the nation with, isn't going away even if he does, is it?

Why did this anti American drug addled communist have to succeed in this particular campaign promise? (that of fundamentally changing America)

I can't express how I feel about him because to do so would invite banning from the blog, investigation by the guys in suits and earpieces and a general disruption in my relatively bland and mediocre life.

*crap*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (x3GpS)

234 You want Napoleon.

You have Marshal Petain.

You'll get Marcel Marceau.

Posted by: Zombie Charles de Gaulle at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (D0NZx)

235 Without closing the 'gun show loophole' the state will have no way to track used guns that get sold to friends, relatives, shooting buddies. That's the goal. Universal tracking. You can't have a Canadian or Australian turn in until you know what everyone owns.

Dems could care less about mass shootings.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (Z+7WE)

236 199
I heard the Hindabeast propose that we establish a "No Fly Zone" over
Syria. This being a smart military blog...wouldn't that pretty much put
Maverick and Iceman in a showdown with Boris and Ivan and WWIII?
-------------
If by "no fly zone" the Hildabeast means what Boosh I, Boosh II and Billy-boy had in place on Iraq, yes it would mean U.S. SAM batteries and fighter squadrons attempting to dominate Syrian airspace against hostile air elements. Right into the danger zone, Goose!

Sadly, I must now agree with Tsar Putin against our current Government. Those idiots are not serious, have no serious goals, and have no fear of consequences.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (ry4ab)

237 Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.
The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.



But a socialist paradise would follow. Right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (ham8J)

238 Lets say they passed all these restrictions, all these news laws. Lets say they required all these waiting periods and licensing and so on.

Which of the last 10 shootings would that have prevented? Columbine was the first big media one that happened, and most of the guns the kids used were illegal, so were the bombs. What law do they think is going to stop this?

Why do they think enough government will make bad things go away?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 12:18 PM (39g3+)

239 Dems could care less about mass shootings.

I disagree..... They long for them...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 12:18 PM (hUdMz)

240 229 Someone upthread already mentioned Obama's admiration for Australia's 'solution to the gun problem'; i.e., outright, door-to-door confiscation.

Do the Democrats really think they can pull that off--nationwide door-to-door confiscation, I mean? I can see any number of ways where sending cops or troops or whoever the hell to individual private homes on gun sweeps could end catastrophically and potentially spark widespread insurrection.

I guess what I'm asking is if Obama (or his Democratic successor should the Dems win the White House in 2016) would be willing to risk Civil War in order to disarm the populace? In my view, the only thing preventing a socialist dictatorship is the prevalence of privately owned firearms. The Left knows this, too. What are the odds, I wonder, they'll get impatient andoverreach?
Posted by: troyriser

__________________


I think most of it is they just want a "victory" against the gun lobby, just for the notch on their belt.

If they could get something passed that made up mad, then that would be mission accomplished.

Again, it's just revenge fantasy. They know gun shows aren't where gun crimes come from, it's just people in the hobby.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 12:18 PM (lvuzz)

241 >>226 Manatees take a few lives every year when Florida Men try to wrestle them.



That's not Wrasslin'!

Posted by: Garrett at October 05, 2015 12:19 PM (3Hskx)

242 The Left wants Bonaparte.
The Left will settle for Santa Ana.
The Left will get Ceaucescu.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:19 PM (ry4ab)

243 Been gone for a few days. Just reading the comments. Did Ace ban profanity here now? Because I have a few choice words to use in this thread.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 12:19 PM (+Ms7H)

244
The number of people who go deer hunting in a weekend in WI during the gun season makes the hunters, in the woods, in WI the 8th largest army in the world.

At least those were the stats I saw recently.

Posted by: GMan at October 05, 2015 12:08 PM (sxq57)


WI hunters making up the 8th largest army. Isn't that cute?

Posted by: Texas during a typical day during hunting season at October 05, 2015 12:20 PM (t06LC)

245 I disagree..... They long for them...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 12:18 PM (hUdMz)

Yep

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:20 PM (fWAjv)

246 The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at October 05, 2015 12:16 PM (uPxUo)




Just makes Bill Ayers' work that much easier:

https://youtu.be/HWMIwziGrAQ

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 12:21 PM (nL0sw)

247 Ok so I as president will use an executive order to the FCC to yank everyone's broadcast license.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:21 PM (4ErVI)

248 You want Napoleon.

You have Marshal Petain.

You'll get Marcel Marceau.



!

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at October 05, 2015 12:21 PM (LUgeY)

249 Actually... historic trends all point to a despot... we may not get LUCKY enough to get a Napoleon...

Napoleon was competent. We'll get the Obama version. All the despotism, none of the military acumen.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:22 PM (jhqr1)

250 237 Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.
The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.


But a socialist paradise would follow. Right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (ham8J)

Someone wrote a short story about an attempted coup from the perspective of a democratic aide that was really good. Anyone know what I'm talking about or where to find it?

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 05, 2015 12:22 PM (t06LC)

251 232
Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.

The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.

--------
In that case the cause of Freedom is in no great danger. Those idiots in the ATF couldn't take Fort Ticonderoga without incompetence. The first time they co-opt the NPS and FDA SWAT teams for a raid and splash the results all over cable and internet news, every gun owner will be on the alert.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:22 PM (ry4ab)

252 237
Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.

The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.




Oh,
the ambushes the government would suffer. In the age of the internet
where it's so easy to spread tactics and ideas. Not to mention, the
left's lack of resolve if people start going Beslan in liberal areas.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (AC0lD)

253 Napoleon was competent. We'll get the Obama version.

We already HAVE the Obama version. We're already there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (9krrF)

254 Someone wrote a short story about an attempted coup
from the perspective of a democratic aide that was really good. Anyone
know what I'm talking about or where to find it?

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 05, 2015 12:22 PM (t06LC)


What I saw at the Coup by Mike Bracken.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (4ErVI)

255 "Did Ace ban profanity here now? Because I have a few choice words to use in this thread."

I don't think so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 12:24 PM (LA7Cm)

256 What I saw at the Coup by Mike Bracken.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (4ErVI)

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That was an awesome.... and chilling.... read.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 12:24 PM (8XRCm)

257 Look at how long it takes to catch a serial killer, do they really think they'd do better against well-armed and trained citizens targeting federal agents?

Really stupid people, sometimes.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:24 PM (CGjum)

258 My hu-man consultants have advised me to play both sides of this issue in order to win election as first female hu-man United States of America President.

Posted by: Hillary Robot Clinton at October 05, 2015 12:24 PM (Y8P5w)

259 OH.... joy....

Negotiations done on the Trans Pacific Partnership....

Which is more than a trade agreement... having to do with everything from Gun control, to Environmental law...

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (qh617)

260 4.) 15 Year minimum/mandatory for a prior felon in possession of a firearm.

Why? Did he or she lose their right to free speech also? Or their right to practice their religion?

It is either a right or its not.

The 2A is the only one that says "shall not be infringed".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (ODxAs)

261 238

Why do they think enough government will make bad things go away?
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To ask the question is to know the answer.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (ry4ab)

262 What I saw at the Coup by Mike Bracken.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (4ErVI)

Hey thanks! I read that a few years ago and thought it was pretty good.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (t06LC)

263 "I don't think so."

By consent, we all seem to try to reserve C*nt for when absolutely no other word will suffice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (VPLuQ)

264
252 237
Um, the gun seizing would most likely be an ATF SWAT operation.

The nation will bloom with a million fiery Wacos.




Oh,
the ambushes the government would suffer. In the age of the internet
where it's so easy to spread tactics and ideas. Not to mention, the
left's lack of resolve if people start going Beslan in liberal areas.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (AC0lD)

the State has already proven it will back down...

Think back on the standoff with the Rancher in Nevada....

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 12:26 PM (qh617)

265 Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.


Excellent scripture reference. This one always gives me chills.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:27 PM (jhqr1)

266 By consent, we all seem to try to reserve C*nt for when absolutely no other word will suffice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (VPLuQ)


And considering the huge number of candidates for the title, the restraint here is admirable.


I'm constantly self editing...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 12:27 PM (AC0lD)

267 And btw folks, they won't attempt any mass confiscations.

Here's how they could do it and it fits with past successful product purges.

First raise taxes on all firearms products.
Raise fees and taxes on firearms dealers
Allow current laws concerning law suits be left to lanquish (as is currently been done over the Sandy Hook shooting. The appeals judge has allowed the state to take back control of the lawsuit even though there is a Federal law protecting Manufacturers from those suits.)
Raise fees and change zoning laws for gun ranges.
Ban the use in as many places as can be done.
Require that every weapon have liability insurance.
Ban Ammunition and raise the prices.
Then enact a ban on ownership and rely on informers and well meaning children of gun owners to allow confiscation in detail.

This was successfully done against Tobacco and although it still exists it is not as widespread as it was and there will never be a return to where it's in use by so many.

Guns will slowly become a thing only the boorish and ignorant participate in and eventually through seizures and confiscation from estates will reduce the availability FOR LEGAL OWNERS.

Which is why NO CLAIMS OF COMMON SENSE OR REASONABLENESS OF A GUN LAW SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO UNCHALLENGED.

And that includes mental state. Because it is too easy for the Gov to make whatever they want to to become an indication of unstable mind and that will be a big foot in the door for confiscation. Worked for Russia.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (x3GpS)

268 The 2A is the only one that says "shall not be infringed".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

____________

They get one more Supreme Court vote and that is gone, even Scalia has said as much.

If they can find gay marriage buried in the Constitution they can sure as hell set aside the 2nd Amendment and make it meaningless.

Oh, you'll get to have your deer rifle, but you'll basically have to hire a lawyer to get all the right paperwork and apply for ownership with some sort of renewal fee.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (lvuzz)

269 I decided some time ago that I wasn't paying any attention to any new gun laws. It's really that simple.

Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (6xtq3)

270 I see that coffins are popping up out of the ground in some areas of South Carolina from the saturated ground, and flood waters.

During Hugo, we had underground gas station fuel tanks pop up, right through foot thick slabs concrete.

Looked almost like our subs surfacing at the north pole.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (VPLuQ)

271 Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 11:48 AM (2Ojst)

I suspect that a good machinist can knock one out in about five minutes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (Zu3d9)

272 Massacre averted thank G*d.


http://tinyurl.com/njhn2d8

A day before a gunman in Oregon killed eight classmates and his college writing teacher, Tuolumne County sheriff's detectives foiled a plot by students to go on a shooting rampage at their high school near Yosemite National Park, authorities said.

The Summerville Union High School students, all male, had detailed plans that 'included names of would-be victims, locations, methods in which the plan was to be carried out,' Sheriff Jim Mele told reporters at a news conference Saturday. The targets included other students and faculty members.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:29 PM (fWAjv)

273 And that includes mental state. Because it is too
easy for the Gov to make whatever they want to to become an indication
of unstable mind and that will be a big foot in the door for
confiscation. Worked for Russia.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 05, 2015 12:28 PM (x3GpS)


Seriously. Look how much the psychiatric manual has changed over the last couple of decades, mostly due to political correctness.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:29 PM (4ErVI)

274 Regarding guns, I want each of you voting hu-mans to know that I agree completely with whatever position you have on the issue. GOTO 400.

Posted by: Hillary Robot Clinton at October 05, 2015 12:31 PM (Y8P5w)

275
263 "I don't think so."

By consent, we all seem to try to reserve C*nt for when absolutely no other word will suffice.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:25 PM (VPLuQ)


Juuuuust checking. This thread could be reprinted in the Southern Baptist Week in Review

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 12:31 PM (Fmupd)

276
"Oh,
the ambushes the government would suffer. In the age of the internet
where it's so easy to spread tactics and ideas. Not to mention, the
left's lack of resolve if people start going Beslan in liberal areas."
I somehow wound up on You Tube and found all kinds of "educational" videos giving step-by-step instructions on explosives making.
I have new found respect for gun-cotton, that's for sure.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 12:33 PM (0x/TW)

277 "Juuuuust checking. This thread could be reprinted in the Southern Baptist Week in Review"

And most of it written by people sitting around without pants on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 12:33 PM (VPLuQ)

278 Seriously. Look how much the psychiatric manual has changed over the last couple of decades, mostly due to political correctness.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:29 PM (4ErVI)

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If I eat, then puke.... eat.... then puke.... eat .... then puke, I have body dysmorphia and am in need of psychiatric help.

If I want to parade around in womens clothes and actually go to the trouble of hacking off my penis and chemically grow bewbs.... I have "courage" and get my own Vanity Fair cover.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 12:34 PM (8XRCm)

279 In the spirit of this thead: Freedom Munitions is running a 10% off sale on 9mm and .45acp. If you were thinking you could use some more...

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:35 PM (CGjum)

280 >> Seriously. Look how much the psychiatric manual has changed over the last couple of decades, mostly due to political correctness.


IIRC, they were considering removing narcissistic personality disorder from the most recent DSM.
????

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (NOIQH)

281 And that includes mental state. Because it is too easy for the Gov to make whatever they want to to become an indication of unstable mind and that will be a big foot in the door for confiscation. Worked for Russia.

Yep. I caution gun advocates about this one all the time. They keep saying "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental illness problem".

Here's how that can be twisted.
1. Get everyone on board with taking guns from the seriously mentally ill.
2. Start relaxing the definition of "seriously mentally ill"
3. Create a bureaucratic nightmare agency to judge who qualifies as "seriously mentally ill" and seek out undiagnosed ticking time bomb cases
4. Empower the agency with broad confiscation powers
5. Donezo.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (jhqr1)

282 If I eat, then puke.... eat.... then puke.... eat .... then puke, I have body dysmorphia and am in need of psychiatric help.

If I want to parade around in womens clothes and actually go to the trouble of hacking off my penis and chemically grow bewbs.... I have "courage" and get my own Vanity Fair cover.

The reason is obvious...

Puke is yucky.

Duh.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (BZAd3)

283 In the spirit of this thead: Freedom Munitions is running a 10% off sale on 9mm and .45acp. If you were thinking you could use some more...
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:35 PM (CGjum)

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You guys stock up.... I refill your empty's.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (8XRCm)

284 Juuuuust checking. This thread could be reprinted in the Southern Baptist Week in Review

I kinda kiboshed that by leading off with F-bombs early on. Might still be able to get it into the minutes of a Church of the Subgenius meeting, though...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (9krrF)

285 Someone wrote a short story about an attempted coup from the perspective of a democratic aide that was really good. Anyone know what I'm talking about or where to find it?

I remember it. If I recall there were short stories from both sides.

I don't recall where it was though.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 12:38 PM (YQA13)

286 They get one more Supreme Court vote and that is gone, even Scalia has said as much.

Yeah, that was my point, I don't understand conservatives though trying to help come up with solutions to an inalienable right. We need to be absolutists about our rights. If you aren't incarcerated, you should have your full rights.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2015 12:39 PM (ODxAs)

287 we all seem to try to reserve C*nt for when absolutely no other word will suffice.


****


Competent?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 12:39 PM (NeFrd)

288 Here's how that can be twisted.
1. Get everyone on board with taking guns from the seriously mentally ill.
2. Start relaxing the definition of "seriously mentally ill"
3. Create a bureaucratic nightmare agency to judge who qualifies as "seriously mentally ill" and seek out undiagnosed ticking time bomb cases
4. Empower the agency with broad confiscation powers
5. Donezo.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:37 PM (jhqr1)


I've been thinking about that for awhile now: Have doctors report anyone they believe "may pose a risk with a gun". Maybe provide some monetary incentive for being socially proactive. How easy would that be?

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 12:40 PM (BZAd3)

289 Why? Did he or she lose their right to free speech also?

You can. A person out on parole or on probation most certainly can. But it's nearly always on a case by case basis.

Or their right to practice their religion?

I think the courts are generally shy of attempting to do any such thing, but it would not be outside of the bounds of possibility.

I would agree, though that a blanket federal law banning the ownership of firearms for persons convicted of non-specific crimes, just certain levels of crimes is certainly unconstitutional. But good luck with that. Your Betters in the Supreme Court know what's good for you, pleb.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 05, 2015 12:40 PM (k9qR4)

290 >>Here's how that can be twisted.

They could even take a short-cut and, say, peruse all medical records (yay, Obamacare electronic medical records requirement!) and say if you've ever been prescribes X, Y, or Z dugs, or seen a licenced therapist for more than N sessions, you cannot get a gun. Just think of all the Americans who have at one time take anti-depressants, or have consulted a therapist - it could be so very easy.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 12:40 PM (NOIQH)

291 256 What I saw at the Coup by Mike Bracken.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (4ErVI)

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That was an awesome.... and chilling.... read.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 12:24 PM (8XRCm)


But at least it had a happy ending.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 12:40 PM (zoehZ)

292 My fix for this executive creation of laws and limits would be to legislate that all regulations must be voted on before implementation. So the first "draft" gets sent to executive, they nerdify it with actual enforcement levels, but THEN it gets sent back to congress. This way Senators and Reps can't hide from the garbage regs that come of monster legislation, they are accountable on a Yes/No vote.

Posted by: Cthulhu Baratheon at October 05, 2015 12:41 PM (QBnYs)

293
Yeah, so the mainstream democratic president for president is saying: YOLO I'm going to do whatever I want if you You don't do what I want.
I measure of how far gone we are at this point. 8 more years of democrats with complicit Rinos and you'll have nostalgia for today.
Its going to get worse before it gets any better at all.

Posted by: simplemind at October 05, 2015 12:41 PM (5vV+V)

294 So Hillary! is still flapping her pancakes?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 12:42 PM (C6cTZ)

295 We have no Constitutional Republic anymore. And everyone that is elected and/or works in that town knows it.

Too bad the individual states aren't putting up any fight.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 12:42 PM (Fmupd)

296 Just dropping in to direct moron attention to an interesting factoid over at Powerline. Jeff Sessions put this chart together to describe the impact current immigration law will have on American population-- even before pen and phone executive action is considered -- and, I promise you, it's worse than you (probably) knew.

http://bit.ly/1L25ors

Posted by: MTF at October 05, 2015 12:43 PM (TxJGV)

297 Yep. I caution gun advocates about this one all the time. They keep saying "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental illness problem".

________________________

I agree, I really don't want some sort of "mental testing" to be a part of firearm ownership because it's such a slippery slope and "doctors" in that field will be more than happy to participate in banning guns and come up with anything the gun grabbers need.

I will concede it's a difficult thing to argue against.

I do think though it should be easier to institutionalize people.

Posted by: Coolio at October 05, 2015 12:43 PM (lvuzz)

298 @fixerupper

At $271.88 per 1,000 of new .45 230gr, I don't know if I could reload it for much cheaper.

I'm sure that math changes dramatically if you have access to range brass, though.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:44 PM (CGjum)

299 Juuuuust checking. This thread could be reprinted in the Southern Baptist Week in Review

This is one of our genteel days. The week is yet young.

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at October 05, 2015 12:45 PM (LUgeY)

300 Psst. Wanna see my gun show loophole poophole?

Posted by: Gun-grabbng Lefty at October 05, 2015 12:45 PM (VAsIq)

301 Gack! I meant...


!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 12:45 PM (LUgeY)

302 Now, if we're talking the same testing it takes to get "medical" marijuana...

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:45 PM (CGjum)

303 Posted by: Marcel Marceau


****

You're certainly verbose for a mime.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 12:46 PM (NeFrd)

304 Here's the chaser for this thread:

San Diego students face expulsion for American and military flags:

http://tinyurl.com/oreoth2

Some of y'all still think this is going to have a happy ending.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 12:46 PM (BZAd3)

305 You should see Marcel Marceau's greatest act: in the barrel.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:46 PM (CGjum)

306 Remember, Hilly was part of the selling guns to the cartels.

She was reading the charge on the '50% of cartel guns come from the US' bullshit that they were pushing.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 05, 2015 12:47 PM (oVJmc)

307 They could even take a short-cut and, say, peruse all medical records (yay, Obamacare electronic medical records requirement!) and say if you've ever been prescribes X, Y, or Z drugs, or seen a licensed therapist for more than N sessions, you cannot get a gun. Just think of all the Americans who have at one time take anti-depressants, or have consulted a therapist - it could be so very easy.

I think the only thing missing from this scenario is getting everyone on board with confiscation from the mentally ill. You have to start with the people who can't judge reality. Aural hallucinations and such. Then once you've got the idea and bureaucracy fully entrenched, that's when they strike.

They will have the official rules, and the actual rules. They will lie and obfuscate about what they're actually doing. Nobody will believe the stories of the schoolmarm with a stalker getting her gun taken away. People will argue about the case. One side will call the other truthers. The other side will call the first fascist. The Republicans will grandstand, but won't even consider defunding the agency. Etc.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:48 PM (jhqr1)

308 It's nearly 1:00pm. Do you know where you Ewok is?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 12:48 PM (LUgeY)

309 The Umpqua College shooting was ended as with most (all?) other mass shootings - by a good guy with guns.


I have a great idea! Let's limit access to guns by the good guys. Yeah!

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 05, 2015 12:50 PM (1DH1V)

310 I agree, I really don't want some sort of "mental testing" to be a part of firearm ownership because it's such a slippery slope and "doctors" in that field will be more than happy to participate in banning guns and come up with anything the gun grabbers need.

Yep. The USSR had "lazy schizophrenia". Which presented like a normal, everyday person. IOW it was a BS diagnosis they used when they wanted to declare a political enemy crazy. Away they went into the system, never to be heard from again.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:50 PM (jhqr1)

311 "But at least it had a happy ending.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 12:40 PM (zoehZ)

Not for the girl headed to the hangman.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 12:50 PM (dOD0J)

312 It's nearly 1:00pm. Do you know where you Ewok is?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy

I was walking past an alley and tripped over some empty ValuRite bottles and gagged on the smell of vomit.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 12:51 PM (VAsIq)

313 285 Someone wrote a short story about an attempted coup from the perspective of a democratic aide that was really good. Anyone know what I'm talking about or where to find it?

I remember it. If I recall there were short stories from both sides.

I don't recall where it was though.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 12:38 PM (YQA13)

256 What I saw at the Coup by Mike Bracken.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 12:23 PM (4ErVI)


Link for anyone who hasn't read it.

http://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:51 PM (fWAjv)

314 If it was the truly crazy people that had the guns, hobo's would be much harder to hunt.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:52 PM (CGjum)

315 I would not call this art...

http://www.ufunk.net/artistes/jean-pierre-roy/

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 12:52 PM (C6cTZ)

316 I don't really like being called the "Hangman." Can we all agree to change my title to the "Hungman?"

Posted by: Executioner at October 05, 2015 12:53 PM (VAsIq)

317 If it was the truly crazy people that had the guns, hobo's would be much harder to hunt.

Give hobos lawn mowers, not shotguns.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 12:53 PM (9krrF)

318 316 I don't really like being called the "Hangman." Can we all agree to change my title to the "Hungman?"

Posted by: Executioner at October 05, 2015 12:53 PM (VAsIq)

Either way it is SEXIST!!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:54 PM (fWAjv)

319 I don't really like being called the "Hangman." Can we all agree to change my title to the "Hungman?"

Think of yourself as a "human transvital suspension engineer".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 12:54 PM (9krrF)

320 I'll just leave this here.

$11 million grant

"The program, designed after a pilot program started by the Grand Junction-based Rocky Mountain Health Plans, is designed to get doctors, nurses and other medical professionals to go beyond whatever discipline they practice to find the root cause of a physical ailment, mental issue or behavioral problem.

It is part of a national effort spurred by the federal Affordable Care Ace, which requires the Medicare and Medicaid center to find ways to reduce costs with expanded coverage. Driving it is a premise that a physical problem, even something as seemingly simple as a b roken bone, might have occurred because of a mental illness or behavior problem, such as substance abuse."



Link in nick


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 12:55 PM (NeFrd)

321 Or would that be 'human transversal cis-suspension engineer' instead?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 12:55 PM (C6cTZ)

322 "Can we all agree to change my title to the "Hungman?"

Send a pic to an Ette willing to view it. You may have to make a donative. Once the Ette says yes, you can change titles.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 12:55 PM (dOD0J)

323 OT but I don't care...

The entire American political establishment has been predicting the demise of Trump's campaign for weeks, even months now, in fact they are so desperate for Trump to go away that many of them are just beginning to pretend that it has already happened.

I fully realize that Trump is only marginally conservative, ok?

but he is the ONLY one I trust when he says he will deport illegals, all the progressive nonsense has already been foisted upon us and the current GOP leadership has done NOTHING to stop it, so the little bit of progressive nonsense I get from Trump is irrelevant.

I just want a leader who I can trust to do at least ONE thing that is conservative, I believe Trump when he says he will deport illegals, I don't believe ANY of the others when they speak about illegal immigration.

I don't like Trump, he's a big-mouth and a hot-head and his political philosophy is not well thought out or even coherent.

none of that matters to me anymore, this whole Syrian refugee thing has crystallized one thing in my mind, our Ruling Class is out to destroy my culture by flooding it with people who have no love or respect for it and this MUST be stopped and reversed or none of the other stuff matters.

we MUST deport at least several million illegals if not 10's of millions of them soon or there won't be any United States of America anymore, it will just be another 3rd world hell-hole.

Trump is the only one serious about this so he is my guy, even though it leaves a very bad aftertaste.

Posted by: Shoey at October 05, 2015 12:55 PM (vA94g)

324 Trump had a friend at military school called Ace??



DESTINY I TELL YOU!!


Hey morans.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 05, 2015 12:56 PM (W7w/T)

325 I hate to admit this, but Hillary's Donald Trump impression on SNL was pretty funny.

[shoots self in head]

Posted by: Derp Williams at October 05, 2015 12:56 PM (2X7pN)

326 178
Royaloil, the left is cheering it on because they are convinced that the
govt will crush us like bugs in a heartbeat. The fact that even IF it
goes that way, that a number of leftists will be taken out does not
occur to them.
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The point is, they have no idea of the number against them.

All they know--all they care to know--is inside their cocoon.

The entirety of the US military and every federal law enforcement officer and every single armed federal employee all armed against and moving against the citizens wouldn't even be enough to take on the gun owners in Pennsylvania.

That 800,000 is ONE FUCKING PERCENT of the gun owners in America.

But, they don't own any guns and they don't know anybody who does ergo: No one really owns guns except a few kooks.

And let's not forget their alternative fantasy: That the cannon fodder they're raising in the ghettos (used to shooting handguns at innocents and the unarmed) will rise up as their back-up army to help defeat normal America.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 05, 2015 12:56 PM (ZvKdv)

327 Rocky Mountain high!

Posted by: John Denver at October 05, 2015 12:56 PM (VAsIq)

328 Yep. The USSR had "lazy schizophrenia". Which presented like a normal, everyday person. IOW it was a BS diagnosis they used when they wanted to declare a political enemy crazy. Away they went into the system, never to be heard from again.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2015 12:50 PM (jhqr1)


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If that happens here, I want to be diagnosed with something where they put a cage over my head. That would be so cool looking. And no one could hit me I the face because I've got a cage over my head.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 12:57 PM (Fmupd)

329 Since it's lunchtime...


http://tinyurl.com/q3jj83r


NYC Chick-Fil-A grand opening satisfies cravings, upsets animal and gay rights activists

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:57 PM (fWAjv)

330 Seamus, how about almost live organ donations?

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/06/monty-python-predictor-of-future.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 12:57 PM (C6cTZ)

331 Seriously. Look how much the psychiatric manual has changed over the last couple of decades, mostly due to political correctness.

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Cutting your dick off and becoming a pretend woman is totes OK and disagreeing with that is crazy.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 12:57 PM (fFIVI)

332 We're about 5 years out from non-leftists being declared mentally disturbed at an official level as is, I fear. Its already gotten to the point where anyone who isn't socially outgoing and comfortable with crowds is considered mentally damaged and autistic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 12:58 PM (39g3+)

333 318
316 I don't really like being called the "Hangman." Can we all agree to change my title to the "Hungman?"



Posted by: Executioner at October 05, 2015 12:53 PM (VAsIq)



Either way it is SEXIST!!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 12:54 PM (fWAjv)


I like, "Hugman."

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 05, 2015 12:58 PM (1DH1V)

334 So Hillary is being urged to hire a criminal defense attorney:

http://tinyurl.com/qaeckh6

Maybe she should ban orange jumpsuits.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 12:59 PM (BZAd3)

335 by the way, did you see that Bobby Jindal is way up in the polls? Is that the Ace effect? Maybe the Podcast has vast power...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 12:59 PM (39g3+)

336 Cutting your dick off and becoming a pretend woman is totes OK and disagreeing with that is crazy.

John Hopkins (?) has stopped doing gender reassignment surges after documenting that the individuals were not helped by aid procedures ...

Posted by: Adriane the Medical Critic ... at October 05, 2015 01:01 PM (qOsoH)

337 Lots of authoritarian personalities on this thread. I'll load up the firehose with thorazine

Posted by: theodor adorno at October 05, 2015 01:01 PM (+pgzR)

338 Lawfare, paramilitary LEO confiscation, or outright warfare, those are only the means to the desired outcome of the gun-grabbers. Or more to the point, the people who support the gun-grabbers with their eyes on the prize. It is the outcome that is the real goal to be observed and countered. Sun Tzu said that the primary goal of a successful strategy was disruption of the enemy's strategy, and that must likewise be the gun owners' goal.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 05, 2015 01:01 PM (ry4ab)

339 If that happens here, I want to be diagnosed with something where they put a cage over my head. That would be so cool looking. And no one could hit me I the face because I've got a cage over my head.

Posted by: Soona


They called that Puddytat Syndrome.

Not fatal unless you have a hammer in hand.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 01:01 PM (JmGFJ)

340 That would be so cool looking. And no one could hit me I the face because I've got a cage over my head.

Posted by: Soona


*****


I tot I taw a puddy tat!

Posted by: Tweety at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (NeFrd)

341 I see this Afghanistan hospital tragedy will surely help Zippy withdraw the US even further from engaging ISIS/ISIL. There's a reason they call it the "fog of war". This is the same sh!t they pulled on Israel during the conflict in southern Lebanon a few years back. If you operate in a war zone innocent people are going to die. Have they threatened Zippy with war crimes yet.

Posted by: Derp Williams at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (2X7pN)

342 I'd leave it for medical professionals to argue, but isn't a permanent ban on ownership due to mental health issues an admission that therapy is ineffective?

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (iSOwH)

343 In case there is a Moron left who has not bought my book -
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

And buy Christopher Taylor's book while at it.
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014TKK4RU

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (C6cTZ)

344 Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 01:01 PM (JmGFJ)


***

Curse you!!!


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (NeFrd)

345 Screw that Constitution thingy. Dead, white, slave-owning, misogynist, patriarchal males

Posted by: thespellingpolice at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (miAG4)

346 Have they threatened Zippy with war crimes yet?

If it were Bush you know that would happen and the hospital bombing would be front page news across the world for a month straight.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:03 PM (39g3+)

347 " Have they threatened Zippy with war crimes yet.


Posted by: Derp Williams at October 05, 2015 01:02 PM (2X7pN)

Not zippy himself. There has been a call or two for the Pilot of the plane to charged with a war crime.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 05, 2015 01:03 PM (dOD0J)

348 Doctors Without Borders was screaming about war crimes as of last night.

Don't know if they've gotten their hey, cool it guys memo yet.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:04 PM (CGjum)

349 So this interfaith bullshit is basically being perpetrated by people that aren't of the faith and just look at it as a job.

I'm not a Christian, but I have a pretty good read on that, right?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 11:31 AM (CGjum)


I'd say so.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 01:04 PM (0yhH4)

350 How tough is it to setup a bookstore on Amazon? I mean a page with moron books, there's dozens of writers here it seems like. We all could use more attention and sales.

By the way, whoever left me a 5 star review on Amazon, thanks! I like to think it came from here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:04 PM (39g3+)

351
Did Hilldog get one of those Popemobiles?

Posted by: freaked at October 05, 2015 01:07 PM (BO/km)

352 2015 study of Chicago inmates

~80% of guns obtained by criminals were obtained from friends or family members. NOT gun shows or dealers. Surprisingly, very few were stolen.

http://tinyurl.com/qeytehc

Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 11:32 AM (nCSwS)


And whence came the guns provided by the friends and family members? All legal purchases, or stolen or straw-bought somewhere up the supply chain?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 01:07 PM (0yhH4)

353 ha! Apropos of this thread, my M39 just arrived. I ordered it from Classic in the second sorted lot and I was quite concerned because of all the bad reports from the first lot ("handselects with broken stocks etc) but this one looks great through the cosmoline. No cracks in the post-war stock on this 1942 VKT. Matching numbers too.

I was apprehensive and now I'm stoked. My toothbrush and I will be very busy tonight.

Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM (rwI+c)

354 Here's the scenario:

- Sweden
- Lesbian bishop
- Crosses
- Islam

http://tinyurl.com/nvylyp3

Oh yeah. It's just that good.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM (BZAd3)

355 "Plans for several weapons of soviet ww2 vintage weapons can be found.
One weapon has only 43 parts. Most of them can be stamped, simplifying
the process."

This is great if you need 100,000 of them. Not so great if you want one. I run a metal stamping shop in Illinois. A progressive stamping die costs $10,000+.

Posted by: Chris M at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM (k3w9p)

356 I was apprehensive and now I'm stoked. My toothbrush and I will be very busy tonight.

Euphemism or phrasing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM (C6cTZ)

357 Euphemism or phrasing?

Heh. Cosmoline removal. I want to break it down and look for the date on the original Russian receiver part, and look for shimming in the forearm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:11 PM (rwI+c)

358 Wow. Just turned on FNC. They're going on and on about Trump losing support and that Rubio has become the Trump stalker. But, of course FNC it's fair and balanced.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 01:12 PM (Fmupd)

359 Cutting your dick off and becoming a pretend woman is totes OK and disagreeing with that is crazy.

Posted by: The Great White Snark
---------------------------------
Now yer talkin'! Oh wait, you're being snarky, aren't you?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:12 PM (E5UB0)

360 Even with the cosmo soaked through it, the trigger breaks like a glass rod.

Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:12 PM (rwI+c)

361 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:12 PM (kff5f)

362 I hate auto cucumber.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 01:13 PM (Fmupd)

363 establishment types are now hoping for a Rubio/Kasich ticket

ugh

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:13 PM (zOTsN)

364 Banning guns will work as effectively as banning meth.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)

365 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:13 PM (kff5f)

366 I may have to call in well to work this afternoon.

Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:13 PM (rwI+c)

367 or they are just pimping Rubio to split the Trump vote in Fla and it will go by default to JEB

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (zOTsN)

368
And whence came the guns provided by the friends and family members? All legal purchases, or stolen or straw-bought somewhere up the supply chain?

=====

I'm sure its a mix. Guns are a contentious issue in AA households, at least, and its obvious why. A fair amount of households ban them under their roof, yet the streets are still what they are and an uncle might slide a young man a firearm "just in case". Unfortunately, that doesn't allow for much in the way of instruction.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (3ZtZW)

369 establishment types are now hoping for a Rubio/Kasich ticket

Do.
Not.
Want.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (kff5f)

370 We have laws that say only 21+can drink, yet you go to any college in the land on a Friday night and 90% of those under 21 are drunk.

We have laws that say you can't drink and then drive. Yet every year thousands of people are killed by drunk drivers.

The solution then is to ban alcohol. Oh wait, we tried that once upon a time.

OK then the solution is ban cars.

Aww fuck it let' just ban people and solve every problem.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (0LHZx)

371 ...will work as effectively as banning meth.


*****

I was told there would be no meth on this blog.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (NeFrd)

372 Did Hilldog get one of those Popemobiles?



Posted by: freaked

She got an armored Rascal.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (VAsIq)

373 remember Florida is winner take all for the first time this year

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (zOTsN)

374 Is she going to close the fast and furious loophole?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:15 PM (E5UB0)

375 I was told there would be no meth on this blog.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (NeFrd)


It always seems to get drug in someway or other.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:15 PM (kff5f)

376 We have laws that say only 21+can drink, yet you go to any college in the land on a Friday night and 90% of those under 21 are drunk.


Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

You've clearly never been to a party at BYU.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:16 PM (VAsIq)

377 I'm sure its a mix. Guns are a contentious issue in AA households, at least, and its obvious why. A fair amount of households ban them under their roof, yet the streets are still what they are and an uncle might slide a young man a firearm "just in case". Unfortunately, that doesn't allow for much in the way of instruction.
Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (3ZtZW)

_________

I was talking to a black woman who lived in the South. She casually mentioned that she has a CCW. And I was like, whoa? Really? She said yea she does and a lot of her friends/family do as well. The reason: she spends a lot of time in the bad parts of town and would rather be safe than sorry.

Yet at the same time she of course votes 100% for Democrats.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

378 Russia is now openly trolling Obama on public TV:

http://tinyurl.com/qjz9ah6

I feel fairly certain (because I know Obama so well now) that this is just another indicator of how weak Russia is and how they have now hope of success.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 01:17 PM (BZAd3)

379 I'm sure that math changes dramatically if you have access to range brass, though.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 12:44 PM (CGjum)

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Range Brass, yes. AND..... the fact that I cast my own projectiles from lead I encounter on jobsites. Basically free.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

380
or they are just pimping Rubio to split the Trump vote in Fla and it will go by default to JEB

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (zOTsN)
_____________________________

cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle, cackle,.....

Whatever,, I've got this thing sewn up...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 05, 2015 01:17 PM (HSmrB)

381 You've clearly never been to a party at BYU.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:16 PM (VAsIq)

___________

Do such things even exist?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

382 Putin prolly has pieces of Obama in his stool at this point

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (zOTsN)

383 During the Clinton administration deputy AG Eric Holder famously said that the Clintons did not believe that individuals had the right to own guns.
Didn't matter what the Supremes said or an old piece of paper written by dead White men.
IF she were to win and try this she would literally start a Civil War.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (NHtMs)

384 Strangely enough, re: Guns, my Liberalest Brother shared, on face book, the meme which runs around every now and again with the "We guard X ... with guns" for several lines and then "We guard our schools with a sign which says 'Gun Free Zone'. And then call someone with a gun in an emergency."

I'm moderately surprised, actually.

He's not exactly anti-gun, but he used to buy into the gun control arguments about "limiting access," and such. I wonder what changed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (kff5f)

385 How can a company from California screw up a taco as badly as Jack In The Box? How does a company with food that lousy stay open and prosper?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)

386 I was apprehensive and now I'm stoked. My toothbrush and I will be very busy tonight.
Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM (rwI+c)

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Simple Green works great to remove cosmoline.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (8XRCm)

387 Putin prolly has pieces of Obama in his stool at this point

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (zOTsN)


Somehow I think Putin is the pitcher.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (kff5f)

388 358 Wow. Just turned on FNC. They're going on and on about Trump losing support and that Rubio has become the Trump stalker. But, of course FNC it's fair and balanced.
Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 01:12 PM (Fmupd)

I've decided I'm not going to vote for a permanent politician anymore.

I'm sick and tired of their "public service" that does nothing but destroy the country. And that includes Rubio and Cruz.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (LXJ1e)

389 He's not exactly anti-gun, but he used to buy into the gun control arguments about "limiting access," and such. I wonder what changed.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (kff5f)

_________

The old liberal at 20, conservative at 40 thingy?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)

390 I was told there would be no meth on this blog.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:14 PM (NeFrd)

It always seems to get drug in someway or other.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:15 PM (kff5f)

Of course moron meth is just boiled down Val-U-Rite from which you snort the residue.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (BZAd3)

391 Allen Allen Allen

I didnt mean that way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (zOTsN)

392 How can a company from California screw up a taco as badly as Jack In The Box? How does a company with food that lousy stay open and prosper?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)


You realize they go after the stoner contingent, right?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (kff5f)

393 Putin prolly has pieces of Obama in his stool at this point
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (zOTsN)

----

Judging by the assfucking Putins been giving King Putt.... Id wager its the other way round....

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (8XRCm)

394 I didnt mean that way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (zOTsN)


Oh.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:20 PM (kff5f)

395 @Christopher Taylor:

Weed.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (CGjum)

396 To be fair to Jack in the Box, you can buy 2 tacos for $0.99, I mean how good can you expect a 50 cent taco to be?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)

397 or they are just pimping Rubio to split the Trump vote in Fla and it will go by default to JEB
Posted by: ThunderB
----------------------------------------
There's an latimes article about how tanking Jeb is going after Rubio because Rubio's improving in the polls.

I think that shows Rubio and Jeb draw from the same pool of voters, so Jeb wants his share back. So no pimping of Rubio would really affect Trump that much, since he's not the GOPe pool, but the "FOADIAF, GOPe" pool.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (E5UB0)

398 Obama - chum

Putin - shark

that kind of deal

you vulgarians are offending my delicate sensibilities

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (zOTsN)

399 Do such things even exist?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

Of course! And they always end with handshakes all around.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:22 PM (VAsIq)

400 Two tacos for 0.99 cents?

Yeah they using hobo meat...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 01:22 PM (C6cTZ)

401 you vulgarians are offending my delicate sensibilities
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (zOTsN)

----

Im fucking sorry.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 05, 2015 01:22 PM (8XRCm)

402 You realize they go after the stoner contingent, right?

Yeah but so does Taco Bell and at least their food tastes good. Destroys your guts, but tasty.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:22 PM (39g3+)

403 To be fair to Jack in the Box, you can buy 2 tacos for $0.99, I mean how good can you expect a 50 cent taco to be?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

For $0.75 you can get edible.

For $1.00, I won't tell you what ELSE I did in your food box.

Posted by: Jack at October 05, 2015 01:23 PM (326rv)

404 >>> Simple Green works great to remove cosmoline.


I hates me some cosmoline

With the mosins its almost always up in the works so you have to heat up the bolt to melt it, scrub it out, then repeat repeat repeat until the damned bolt doesn't stick anymore.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:23 PM (3ZtZW)

405 From the sidebar:

Do not care that Jeb! was misquoted by the Progtard Press Propagandists.

Esp. since he and his cronies do the same to Trump and Cruz.


However, whoever is the GOP presidential nominee better have a quick response social media team to overwhelm this kind of assholery in the election.

Unless, it's Jeb! and then his job is to lose to Hillary! anyway.

#LowEnergyLoser

Posted by: naturalfake at October 05, 2015 01:23 PM (KUa85)

406 well there is nothing to fuckng forgive, you sorry asshole

no worries

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:23 PM (zOTsN)

407 Given that most of Jack / Taco Bell is eaten while one is drunk/stoned, it doesn't much matter what is in it. It's food, it's greasy, it's DELICIOUS!

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:24 PM (0LHZx)

408 Simple Green works great to remove cosmoline.

I use that on the wood parts. I really like the spray brake cleaner for the metal parts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) on time delay at October 05, 2015 01:24 PM (rwI+c)

409 >>>I've decided I'm not going to vote for a permanent politician anymore.


GOPe has declined in quality so drastically, one can withdraw support with a clean conscience. Uniparty and all that.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (E5UB0)

410 Didn't Jack in the Box have some sort of sourdough burger that was almost like a patty melt?

That was good, and I've never been able to find its equal at another fast food place. Hardee's has something similar, but it's nowhere near as good.

Mind, it's been 20+ years since I've ate at one, but that's what I recall.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (CGjum)

411 how good can you expect a 50 cent taco to be?

=======

Fiddy Cent always fks up da tacos! Go with da DR DRE TACOS!

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (3ZtZW)

412 Yeah but so does Taco Bell and at least their food tastes good. Destroys your guts, but tasty.

Taco Bell goes after the HS/College Kid demographic. There's certainly a lot of overlap, and it makes their models look similar, but only Jack-in-the-Box calls theirs "a munchie meal" or whatever.

And, as stated, I can get 4 tacos for $2 at JitB, I can't even get 3 for that much at Taco Bell.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (kff5f)

413 you can own a sear so long as you do not also own an AR15.

Posted by: blaster


So your wife owns the sear, but no ARs

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (ztOda)

414 I liked what Trump said on the Sunday talkies. Basically guns aren't the problem, crazy people are and you're never going to solve this problem since there will always be crazy people running around.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:26 PM (0LHZx)

415 There's an latimes article about how tanking Jeb is going after Rubio because Rubio's improving in the polls.

I think that shows Rubio and Jeb draw from the same pool of voters, so Jeb wants his share back. So no pimping of Rubio would really affect Trump that much, since he's not the GOPe pool, but the "FOADIAF, GOPe" pool.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:21 PM (E5UB0)

--------------------------

Yes, let them fight over the same 12% of voters.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:26 PM (LXJ1e)

416 I agree with you, BackwardsBoy. She should be removed from her pulpit, but given that she's a Bishop I'm assuming other Bishops have to bring charges against her

Thank God someone in the Bishop of Sweden's area protested:. I'm sorry i didn't read Swedish to read what he actually wrote.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 01:26 PM (cgZPg)

417 Im fucking sorry.

Posted by: fixerupper

Knock it off!

Posted by: the goat named "sorry" at October 05, 2015 01:27 PM (VAsIq)

418 Ugh:

But Clinton also wants to use the UCC attack as an opportunity to change the law so that shooting victims and their families can sue gun makers into oblivion.

Ridiculous.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 01:27 PM (NOIQH)

419 I think it's Matt Bracken if y'all are googling .
And it's still fuckin' raining in SC . Gawdamighty .!!

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 01:27 PM (mP1RE)

420 >>> So your wife owns the sear, but no ARs

Imma rewrite Lysistrata with this in mind

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:27 PM (3ZtZW)

421

GOPe has declined in quality so drastically, one can withdraw support with a clean conscience. Uniparty and all that.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:25 PM (E5UB0)

--------------------------

Yes, and I'll sleep like a baby.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:28 PM (LXJ1e)

422 But Clinton also wants to use the UCC attack as an opportunity to
change the law so that shooting victims and their families can sue gun
makers into oblivion.>>>

Seems the schools are the ones that should be sued.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 05, 2015 01:28 PM (tf9Ne)

423 @Jean

No AR in the house at all. It's not like how a felon can't own a gun, but their wife can. If there's a sear on the property, there better not be an AR that it could be mated to.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:28 PM (CGjum)

424 "Yeah they using hobo meat..."

Ranch raised, or free range?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 01:28 PM (VPLuQ)

425 but given that she's a Bishop I'm assuming other Bishops have to bring charges against her

One massive advantage of the Church of Christ is I don't have to deal with that crap. If one of our Elders starts preaching heresy, we simply disfellowship them, and ignore their asinine pronouncements.

In my lifetime I've seen such things happen exactly never.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:29 PM (kff5f)

426 Which federal agencies cops have signed up to do door to door confiscation in Utah and Idaho?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 01:30 PM (ztOda)

427 >>Seems the schools are the ones that should be sued.


How about gun manufacturers sue criminals that use their guns to commit a crime? Or maybe sue the police for not stopping the crime?

Because when it comes to contentious issues, the solution is always more lawyers, more lawsuits!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 01:30 PM (NOIQH)

428 But Clinton also wants to use the UCC attack as an opportunity to change the law so that shooting victims and their families can sue gun makers into oblivion.

Oh, yes, that makes sense. "We wouldn't let people use your legal product in a legal way on our premises, and it's *your* fault."

How about being able to sue the owner/operator of any premise which declares itself "gun free?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:31 PM (kff5f)

429 "I use that on the wood parts. I really like the spray brake cleaner for the metal parts."

I break the whole thing down and soak everything in a container of Low Odor Mineral Spirits.

Nylon bristol brush for the wood crevices and metal nooks and crannies.

Cuts cosmo wonderfully without effecting wood finish.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 01:31 PM (VPLuQ)

430 Confiscation would make for an interesting episode of [Stephan Seagal: Lawman.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:31 PM (CGjum)

431 Confiscation would make for an interesting episode of [Stephan Seagal: Lawman.

I suspect it would be the series finale.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (kff5f)

432 Didn't Barack Obama say he was going to DO SOMETHING about George W. Bush centralizing more and more power in the Executive branch? Whatever happened to that?

Maybe he decided that the problem was George Bush doing it. It's fine when Democrats do it.

Posted by: JohnJ at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (TF/YA)

433 Damned italics messup

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (CGjum)

434 well there is nothing to fuckng forgive, you sorry asshole

no worries
Posted by: ThunderB
------------------------------
Don't bust his balls. Bust mine instead.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (E5UB0)

435 424 Ever tried Turkey Hobo? Just not the same.

Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (6xtq3)

436 Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:32 PM (CGjum)

But at least you erred away from the Barrel.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:33 PM (kff5f)

437 430 Confiscation would make for an interesting episode of [Stephan Seagal: Lawman.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:31 PM (CGjum)

Do they show the part where they draw straws to see who knocks on the door..or are they no knock raiding?

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 01:33 PM (ck8TA)

438 Here's the scenario:



- Sweden

- Lesbian bishop

- Crosses

- Islam



http://tinyurl.com/nvylyp3



Oh yeah. It's just that good.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 01:09 PM


When reached for comment, the Swedish Chef stated "That's some fucked up, repugnant shit!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 05, 2015 01:34 PM (KrAjA)

439 How about gun manufacturers sue criminals that use their guns to commit a crime? Or maybe sue the police for not stopping the crime?

====

Why not just shoot em?

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:34 PM (3ZtZW)

440 I wish I'd never invented gunpowder.

Posted by: Brian Williams at October 05, 2015 01:34 PM (VAsIq)

441 I get distracted by his stupid Hollywood pronunciation of his name.

Used to know a guy he went to high school with: at that time it was pronounced exactly as it is spelled: rhymed with beagle.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:34 PM (CGjum)

442 One massive advantage of the Church of Christ is I don't have to deal with that crap. If one of our Elders starts preaching heresy, we simply disfellowship them, and ignore their asinine pronouncements.

In my lifetime I've seen such things happen exactly never.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:29 PM (kff5f)

--------------------------

Except in many churches of Christ, they don't display crosses at all. So maybe this Swedish bishop got religion.

But in reality, yep, churches of Christ will say "take your Muslim loving business elsewhere".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:34 PM (LXJ1e)

443 And whence came the guns provided by the friends and family members? All legal purchases, or stolen or straw-bought somewhere up the supply chain?


I suspect most stolen or straw bought and thus the flaw in only asking the criminal where HE got the gun.

Point being that somewhere along the line, an EXISTING law was knowingly broken by either criminals themselves or people who are accessories-to-crime.

A requirement for background checks or similar vetting for private sales will be broken by these people who are breaking the current laws. But hey, the left will FEEL so good about themselves b/c they care.

Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (TQxRy)

444 How can a company from California screw up a taco as badly as Jack In The Box? How does a company with food that lousy stay open and prosper?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)


It is the eternal question. I was asking it over 20 years ago, and yet here they still are.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (k9qR4)

445 You can't have a Canadian or Australian turn in until you know what everyone owns.

Dems could care less about mass shootings.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 05, 2015 12:17 PM (Z+7WE)


We have not had any gun confiscation in Canada in my lifetime. In fact, the hated long-gun registry is no more. Do try to keep up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (0yhH4)

446 How about they sue the mother of this Oregon shooter piece of shit

she knew he was crazy

she described him as mentally ill

he lived with her, she knew his mental state

she knew about the guns

she even bought him some guns

Lanzas mother was killed by him first, and the press went all over her inaction which led to the tragedy

so what about this guys mother

where are the interviews with her

why isnt she being sued for negligent supervision? Anybody else would be

why isnt the press going after her? If it was me or you they would

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

447 "I wish I'd never invented gunpowder."


I use it in my clock

Posted by: Clock boy at October 05, 2015 01:36 PM (VPLuQ)

448 GOPe has declined in quality so drastically, one can withdraw support with a clean conscience. Uniparty and all that.

The GOPe is nothing more than a jobs program for closeted aggressive homosexuals and pederasts, like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Denny Hastert, and Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 01:36 PM (YQA13)

449 Because it was his white half doing the shooting.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (CGjum)

450 I wonder if the edited "stuff happens" business woke up Jebbie to how much liberals truly hate him, and that despite what he thinks, as soon as he's the nominee will turn on him.

Rhetorical question of course. RINOs never learn this lesson.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)

451 Except in many churches of Christ, they don't display crosses at all. So maybe this Swedish bishop got religion.

O_o

What? Never in any church of Christ have I failed to see a cross displayed quite prominently.

We've had a few fall off the Campbell-Stone bandwagon and start having female ministers, or instrumental music in worship, and even a couple have stopped teaching Baptism for the Remission of Sin as a requirement of accepting salvation. But not display the cross? I haven't seen that one.

Are you referring to the United Churches of Christ? Because that's a very, VERY different group.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (kff5f)

452 I have discovered a possible cure for my own Hillary mania, and maybe it'll help you too. Gratuitous Kate Upton.

http://bit.ly/1j0nYZz

Posted by: MTF at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (TxJGV)

453 Didn't Jack in the Box have some sort of sourdough burger that was almost like a patty melt?

Yes & it is fabulous.

I just checked: the nearest JitB is 233 miles away from where I'm sitting right now

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 05, 2015 01:38 PM (ZQfW9)

454 I suppose there are advantages and disadvantages to hierarchies. The advantage is that the churches can get rid of pastors like this. the disadvantage is IMO, that sometimes pastors of independent churches get removed from their pulpits for things that are not legitimate grievances but because of power struggles in the church and they have no recourse to any other authority.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 01:38 PM (cgZPg)

455 I like Del Taco better than Taco Bell. I go there every time I visit my BIL in LA. I don't have the guts to try Jack in the Box.

Posted by: Chris M at October 05, 2015 01:38 PM (k3w9p)

456 Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

__________

Because that would actually be journalism, the last thing the MSM is interested in.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:38 PM (0LHZx)

457 The old liberal at 20, conservative at 40 thingy?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)




That or he got robbed: "A liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged."

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 01:39 PM (nL0sw)

458 Kate Upton has small hands? But that would just make it look bi...

Bunk.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (CGjum)

459 Hey morans.
Posted by: prescient11 at October 05, 2015 12:56 PM (W7w/T)


'Sup.

Posted by: Erin Moran at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (8ZskC)

460 457 The old liberal at 20, conservative at 40 thingy?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)



That or he got robbed: "A liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged."
Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 01:39 PM (nL0sw)

I was never liberal. According to the old saw, that makes me heartless.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (2Ojst)

461 I have discovered a possible cure for my own Hillary mania, and maybe it'll help you too. Gratuitous Kate Upton.

http://bit.ly/1j0nYZz

Posted by: MTF at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (TxJGV)
________________________

I'd hit it...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (HSmrB)

462 How does a company with food that lousy stay open and prosper?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)




Open 24 hours + Drunk People.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (nL0sw)

463 "New IBD/TIPP is the first live-caller poll since July not to show Trump in the lead "
[JohnE.]


Wow, John, you seem almost authentically disappointed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (JmGFJ)

464 I don't have the guts to try Jack in the Box.


Nobody really jacks in the box. It's all a marketing ploy.

Posted by: Jack at October 05, 2015 01:41 PM (8ZskC)

465 My sister really fucking annoyed over the last few days. She had all these facebook posts about the "need to do something". And against my better judgement, I debated her. And every time I pointed to some statistic like murder is actually way down in the country, or pointing out that no "something" short of waving a magic wand and getting rid of every gun on earth could have stopped the shooting, her reply was still, "yes but it's crazy how many mass murders we have, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING".

Now my sister isn't a stupid person and while liberal-ish she's usually pretty sensible about politics. But when it comes to guns, holy fuck, it's like she's a different person.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)

466 Open 24 hours + Drunk high People.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (nL0sw)


FIFY.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)

467 Chris Goodman an hour ago

Our constitution never says that you can have firearms


o.O

Yeah, not even gonna bother with that one.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (fWAjv)

468 I mean, the person in the church I serve who is being difficult could gather up her family (none of whom but she attends church but are members and on the board) could decide that because her son didn't like the theology on our new website (which is traditional evangelical Christianity) that I should be removed from the pulpit. In an independent church that could happen. It;s unlikely that my Bishop would allow it because I have superiors I could appeal to,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (cgZPg)

469 The Double Decker Taco at Taco Bell is the greatest fast food invention in my lifetime.

Posted by: Chris M at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (k3w9p)

470 I wonder if the edited "stuff happens" business woke up Jebbie to how much liberals truly hate him, and that despite what he thinks, as soon as he's the nominee will turn on him.

Rhetorical question of course. RINOs never learn this lesson.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

The media still love me. We just went through a rough patch in 2007-2008.

Posted by: John McCain, Maverick at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (VAsIq)

471 466 Open 24 hours + Drunk high People.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (nL0sw)

FIFY.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)

The Jack in the Box mascot scares the hell out of me sober. I can't imagine what it would do to someone who was tripping balls.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (2Ojst)

472 So, going door-to-door looking for illegals is a laughable, unpossible and way too expensive crazy idea, but going door-to-door to steal personal weapons is a totes great goal for the left. Got it.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (GzDYP)

473 What, no new thread.... This one is beginning to stink...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (hUdMz)

474 Chris Goodman an hour ago

Our constitution never says that you can have firearms


Posted by: RWC

Yup, it says you have the right to bear arms.

*brushes arm fur*

Posted by: Grizzly Adams at October 05, 2015 01:44 PM (VAsIq)

475 Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

Because he was multi ethnic and killed Christians and Christians aren't a pet group.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 01:44 PM (cgZPg)

476 472 So, going door-to-door looking for illegals is a laughable, unpossible and way too expensive crazy idea, but going door-to-door to steal personal weapons is a totes great goal for the left. Got it.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 05, 2015 01:43 PM (GzDYP)

They're more than happy to have a fascist police state, as long as it's used for their purposes and their purposes only.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 01:44 PM (2Ojst)

477 >> "yes but it's crazy how many mass murders we have, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING".


And yet removing confederate flags and Confederate monuments after the SC shooting didn't stop the OR dude.

This urge to DO SOMETHING is really "do something about these intense emotions I have about the incident!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 01:44 PM (NOIQH)

478 Because they assume gun owners would continue to act lawfully against an unjust law.

At their great peril.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:45 PM (CGjum)

479 In case others missed this excellent take-down, as I did, here is RS McCain on the Slutwalk in LA from yesterday. Pretty hit stuff (the writing, I mean). Apparently, my favorite gay Breitbart writer actually managed to get himself ejected by the coppers for expressing thought crimes.


http://bit.ly/1VBuimC

Posted by: MTF at October 05, 2015 01:45 PM (TxJGV)

480 The Double Decker Taco at Taco Bell is the greatest fast food invention in my lifetime.


Posted by: Chris M

The Upper Decker at your friend's house is the greatest practical joke innovation ever.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:45 PM (VAsIq)

481 I like Del Taco better than Taco Bell. I go there every time I visit my BIL in LA. I don't have the guts to try Jack in the Box.

==========

Maybe its just me, but I've got this like mental block from buying Mexican food at a restaurant.

No, its not the cat thing. Its that I know I can make all that at home without much bother, so why buy it?

Its like Indian food. Oh wow curry powder and peas! Why didn't I think of that? pfft

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 01:45 PM (3ZtZW)

482 467 Chris Goodman an hour ago

Our constitution never says that you can have firearms


o.O

Yeah, not even gonna bother with that one.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (fWAjv)

_________

Bear arms, simply means a right to have two arms.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:45 PM (0LHZx)

483 why isnt the press going after her? If it was me or you they would


I suspect it's b/c that would draw attention to the non-white portion of the killers racial identity

Posted by: McCool at October 05, 2015 01:46 PM (TQxRy)

484 I go to a LCMS church, and there was a lesbo couple in the back row this week. It was the contemporary service, though.

Posted by: Chris M at October 05, 2015 01:46 PM (k3w9p)

485 because his mother is not white

they will not even say her name, nor photograph her, nor interview her

aside from the shooter, she had the most information, the most influence, and the most responsibility to affect what happened

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:46 PM (zOTsN)

486 483 why isnt the press going after her? If it was me or you they would


I suspect it's b/c that would draw attention to the non-white portion of the killers racial identity


Have they even mentioned it?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 01:46 PM (hUdMz)

487 but going door-to-door to steal personal weapons is a totes great goal for the left.

-
My guess is that if such a confiscation order were issued, many the cop would refuse to do it on the grounds they don't want to get shot.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 01:47 PM (XUKZU)

488 I would not call this art...

http://www.ufunk.net/artistes/jean-pierre-roy/

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 12:52 PM (C6cTZ)


Those are what I think is called "Magic Realism". The detail is almost photographic in its accuracy. A lot of skill there, but the subject matter is disturbing. Lots of metaphors there? Some of those look like covers for SF novels.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 01:49 PM (0yhH4)

489 My guess is that if such a confiscation order were issued, many the cop would refuse to do it on the grounds they don't want to get shot.
Posted by: The Great White Snark


All of a sudden, cops lives would matter to the left.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 01:49 PM (W5DcG)

490 463 "New IBD/TIPP is the first live-caller poll since July not to show Trump in the lead "
[JohnE.]

Wow, John, you seem almost authentically disappointed.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 01:40 PM (JmGFJ)

__________

And yet...

Ipsos/Reuters

Trump 32%
Carson 12%
All the rest under 10%

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:49 PM (0LHZx)

491 There is no end to this. None. Don't bother.

Listen, and understand.
They can't be bargained with.
They can't be reasoned with.
They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until we live under communism.

Cankles will say anything to get elected. She is more scripted than that SNL gig. Sad. It will end in tears.

Posted by: GBruno at October 05, 2015 01:50 PM (u49WF)

492 I guess Jack in the Box is kind of the same business model as White Castle. Awful food, cheap, for people so numbed by chemicals they can't tell the difference.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 01:50 PM (39g3+)

493 Trump 32%
Carson 12%
All the rest under 10%


Crap. Do we suck.

Posted by: The Professor and Mary Anne at October 05, 2015 01:50 PM (8ZskC)

494 because his mother is not white
they will not even say her name, nor photograph her, nor interview her


His father has a foreign accent which I cannot place.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 01:51 PM (W5DcG)

495 If a confiscation order ever did happen, I think most people would comply. At least most law abiding citizens. Are you going to shoot a sheriff's deputy knocking on your door? I mean let's be real here. The compliance rate wold be north of 90%.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:51 PM (0LHZx)

496 I guess Jack in the Box is kind of the same business model as White Castle. Awful food, cheap, for people so numbed by chemicals they can't tell the difference.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

I take offense at your words, sir! I happen to really enjoy diarrhea.

Posted by: Fan of White Castle at October 05, 2015 01:51 PM (VAsIq)

497 I would not call this art...

-
I kinda like the one where the dude is kicking the airplanes.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 01:52 PM (XUKZU)

498 In local news-

Police and social workers have uncovered a disheveled group of malnourished blog commenters who apparently have been kept in a darkened room known as the The HQ by the blog owner, a shady character known to gangland rivals only as Ace or "The Ewok". Medical authorities allege that dozens of commenters were kept for hours at a time in conditions that can only be described as horrific. Fed nothing but stale Hot Air the commenters appeared severely malnourished. They were kept in small stale grey boxes for hours at a time while the blog owner played on Twitter, leaving the commenters to amuse each other. Eyes blinking from the shock of being exposed to full daylight for the first time in two weeks the hapless commenters were heard muttering incoherent phrases like "SCOAMF" and "Peruvia FTW!!!" Many of those rescued wore no pants. When asked to point out on the keyboard where their tormenter had touched them they all pointed to the F5 key with hands frozen into a clawlike shape using a pawing motion, while drooling.


The Ewok is wanted by blogging authorities to face charges of commenter neglect.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:52 PM (NeFrd)

499 If a confiscation order ever did happen, I think most people would comply. At least most law abiding citizens. Are you going to shoot a sheriff's deputy knocking on your door? I mean let's be real here. The compliance rate wold be north of 90%.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

I think it's going to be in the middle--few people would actually shoot, but I think most would simply hide the guns and say "Lost 'em in a boating accident."

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 01:53 PM (VAsIq)

500 I think it's going to be in the middle--few people would actually shoot, but I think most would simply hide the guns and say "Lost 'em in a boating accident."
Posted by: Turd Ferguson


Then they would search your house.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 01:54 PM (W5DcG)

501 So, say 5% actively resisted?

How many motivated shooters is that again?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:54 PM (CGjum)

502 The GOPe is nothing more than a jobs program for closeted aggressive homosexuals and pederasts, like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Denny Hastert, and Lindsey Graham.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 01:36 PM (YQA13)

-----------------------------

It be interesting to know, in a looking at a traffic accident sort of way, the potential massive amounts of undercover sexual perversion in DC.

I mean that is large group of people with essentially no morals and often uses religion for personal political gain. Prime candidates for the Father of Lies.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (LXJ1e)

503 "It is the eternal question. I was asking it over 20 years ago, and yet here they still are."

I ask that about CA Piza Kitchen.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (uhftQ)

504 WHite Castle steams their burgers. Like Arby's

Meat and steam are incompatible.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (JmGFJ)

505 Wouldn't it be easier to just ban a certain group from having guns say..... Democrats?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (hUdMz)

506 How many motivated shooters is that again?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:54 PM (CGjum)


What, Approx 1/3 the population owns guns (which means that, on average, gun owners own 3 guns each)?

So 5% of 100,000,000 = 5 million.

How many cops are there in the US, again?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (kff5f)

507 Back in ancient history; i.e., before Obama was immaculated, I knew that the purpose of the second amendment was not deer hunting but rather to protect yourself from humans, particularly a tyrannical government but I would be almost embarrassed to say that because the idea of an actual tyranny here in the US was so hypothetical. It's not been nearly so hypothetical lately.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 05, 2015 01:55 PM (XUKZU)

508 501 So, say 5% actively resisted?

How many motivated shooters is that again?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 01:54 PM (CGjum)

__________

Yeah it's a lot. But there are more of them than there are of the 5% of us. And even 5% seems high. Resisting means either going to jail for a long time or dying in some shootout with the police.

I don't think there are many people out there who will do that.

I could be wrong.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:56 PM (0LHZx)

509 father is Englsih or Irish

plus father is pushing the narrative

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 01:56 PM (zOTsN)

510 509 father is Englsih or Irish

plus father is pushing the narrative

Yup. guns fault not monster kid...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 01:57 PM (hUdMz)

511 Slut Walks are just so crazy.

You have an entire women's magazine industry telling you how to dress/what messages you project with your fashion, and then on a dime they march to announce "stop judging me based on my slutty clothes!!".

*facepalm*

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 01:57 PM (NOIQH)

512 I propose a sit-in in the comments until a new post is up.


*sits*
*sings 'We Shall Overcome'*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:58 PM (kff5f)

513 468 I mean, the person in the church I serve who is being difficult could gather up her family (none of whom but she attends church but are members and on the board) could decide that because her son didn't like the theology on our new website (which is traditional evangelical Christianity) that I should be removed from the pulpit. In an independent church that could happen. It;s unlikely that my Bishop would allow it because I have superiors I could appeal to,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 01:42 PM (cgZPg)

-------------------

I don't know what church you belong to, but don't ever think your bishop has your back.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 01:58 PM (LXJ1e)

514

oh my I peeked in here hours ago between activities and this is still the thread?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 01:58 PM (dFi94)

515 So is Ace twittering or something?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 01:58 PM (hUdMz)

516 I wouldn't comply.

Posted by: Irony at October 05, 2015 01:59 PM (9miVc)

517
So I missed something something about a lesbian swedish minister?



Uff da

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 01:59 PM (dFi94)

518 *sings 'We Shall Overcome'*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther)


****


Hmmm. Let's see. Where did I put those giant papier mache keyboards from last time?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:59 PM (NeFrd)

519 oh my I peeked in here hours ago between activities and this is still the thread?


Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 01:58 PM (dFi94)


The ewok's either cooking up the best comment thread ever or sleeping off a Valu-Rite/Vicodin bender from Saturday.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 05, 2015 01:59 PM (hLRSq)

520 Vet your candidates for sheriff carefully.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 05, 2015 02:00 PM (GzDYP)

521
Maybe its just me, but I've got this like mental block from buying Mexican food at a restaurant.

No, its not the cat thing. Its that I know I can make all that at home without much bother, so why buy it?


I feel the same way about Italian food. You have to make some truly magnificent Italian to make me want to go to a restaurant for it; so easy to make at home.

Indian, though, there's a lot more to it than peas and curry powder out of a tin. Real Indian cooking doesn't even know what curry powder is.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:00 PM (39g3+)

522 Yeah I think the no comply people would simply bury the guns somewhere. But still even if that were the case, the left will have effectively got what they wanted.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 02:00 PM (0LHZx)

523 I am not surprised that the father (coming from a country with heavy gun control) would say guns are the problem, It;'s much easier to say that than being in grief and deal with the fact your son had major problems which were not addressed and evidently Christopher was enabled by his ex wife in acquiring weapons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:00 PM (cgZPg)

524 Depending on who's numbers you're looking at, that's 4-5 million private citizens with no rules of engagement.

Even 1% fighting 4G war, and politicians will change their minds pretty damned fast.

So yes, I think you're wrong.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 05, 2015 02:01 PM (CGjum)

525 Speaking of bear - that chick is damn lucky it didn't snack on her instead of her kayak.

http://tinyurl.com/nvoy2ny

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:01 PM (fWAjv)

526 Wouldn't bury 'em either.

Posted by: Irony at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (9miVc)

527 This Hillary thread is about as old and wore out as she is.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (t2KH5)

528 No, teh Ewok has not yet twat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (JtwS4)

529
So I missed something something about a lesbian swedish minister?

Uff da

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 01:59 PM (dFi94)
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Yeah,, and I'd hit it...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (HSmrB)

530 evidently Christopher was enabled by his ex wife in acquiring weapons

So why isn't the media going after Her.... They aren't even mentioning her or the event ..

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (hUdMz)

531 *sits*
*sings 'We Shall Overcome'*

===========

**pepper spray**

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (3ZtZW)

532 We're caught in a trap. We can't get out. Because he hates us so much, baby.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (S5zql)

533 WHite Castle steams their burgers. Like Arby's

Meat and steam are incompatible.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
............
But White Castles are steamed while on a griddle.. so, it's kinda both steamed and fried.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (so+oy)

534 Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 02:02 PM (3ZtZW)

Pshaw.

In this thread, who could tell the difference?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (kff5f)

535 In thinking about it, they wouldn't do confiscations. They would just grab people as they used them. No more concealed carry or hunting - they'll arrest you.

Then there's shooting an intruder in your house. You get arrested for illegal firearm possession. If the police ever search your house and find it, off you go to prison.

So you have a gun, but it never gets used or else you go to jail.

The government then starts paying a good rate for guns. People start taking these thjngs they can't use and turn them into cash.

They never cross the line where gun owners rise up, just slowly use attrition to get rid of guns.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (YQA13)

536 *switches to Kumbia*

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (kff5f)

537 I don't know what church you belong to, but don't ever think your bishop has your back.

I don't think my Bishop has my back overall, However, the hierarchy is really POed at the church (and was long before i got there)so it's not like they were a favorite to begin with. And if I lose my job I have more time to devote to my Christian drama ministry. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (cgZPg)

538 *Starts protest chant*


"What do we want?"


"Content!"



"When do we want it?"


"#twoweeks"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 02:04 PM (NeFrd)

539 536 *switches to Kumbia*
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (kff5f)

Is that a new browser or something?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 02:04 PM (2Ojst)

540 Lanzas mom was murdered first and the MFM was all over her.

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:04 PM (zOTsN)

541 You've done a nice job here, DrewM. Why don't you take the rest of the day off.

Posted by: Fritz at October 05, 2015 02:04 PM (UzPAd)

542 Maybe We could get a new pretty picture to discuss.....

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:05 PM (hUdMz)

543 Arby's meat is really tasty, though. I know its not really roast beef but I'm not all that fond of roast beef anyway. Although if you shred and fry it up with pepper, onions, and green peppers its pretty tasty.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:05 PM (39g3+)

544 Is that a new browser or something?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 02:04 PM (2Ojst)


No. That's just my... artistic and original spelling of Kumbayah.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:05 PM (kff5f)

545 Our research indicates that GOP primary voters want amnesty and tax cuts for the rich. As they learn more about Mr. Trump's radical positions, we expect his poll numbers to drop significantly.

Posted by: GOP sources say... at October 05, 2015 02:05 PM (Ui7Rt)

546 536 *switches to Kumbia*
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (kff5f)

Is that a new browser or something?


I think it's the guy what shot a cop in Philly years back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (JtwS4)

547 He only tweets because we disappoint him so much.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (NeFrd)

548 O_o

What? Never in any church of Christ have I failed to see a cross displayed quite prominently.

We've had a few fall off the Campbell-Stone bandwagon and start having female ministers, or instrumental music in worship, and even a couple have stopped teaching Baptism for the Remission of Sin as a requirement of accepting salvation. But not display the cross? I haven't seen that one.

Are you referring to the United Churches of Christ? Because that's a very, VERY different group.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 01:37 PM (kff5f)

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I come from the non-institutional coC, I never saw one, nor did the more liberal coC in Alabama have crosses, maybe one or two.

But yeah, the vast majority never have a cross on the building, nor inside if you go in.

... Just did a google search on "church of Christ" the vast majority of buildings didn't have crosses on them. A few did with crosses on the steeple. Some of the ones that had crosses where actually UCC buildings...


No problem, though, I'd take the church of Christ over Swedish lesbo bishops any day.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (LXJ1e)

549 Yeah it's a lot. But there are more of them than there are of the 5% of us. And even 5% seems high. Resisting means either going to jail for a long time or dying in some shootout with the police.
I don't think there are many people out there who will do that.
I could be wrong.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 01:56 PM (0LHZx)


Nobody, I imagine, wants to get shot or go to jail. But an unjust law has to be resisted, somehow. Otherwise, you end up five years from now saying, "resisting gay marriage in my Catholic church means either going to jail for a long time or dying in some shootout with police."

A right that is not defended is no right at all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (zF6Iw)

550 He only tweets because we disappoint him so much.

But we've been good for weeks and weeks and weeks...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (kff5f)

551 So I just got a call from the RNC. I never answer them but I'm always tempted to and yell very unChristian things at them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:07 PM (39g3+)

552 Arby's meat is really tasty, though. I know its not really roast beef but I'm not all that fond of roast beef anyway.

Is that true now? I worked at an Arby's in college *cough*mumblety* years ago and we roasted beef on site daily.

Like, a half dozen or more whole rounds at a time. It was a hoot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 05, 2015 02:07 PM (JtwS4)

553 535 In thinking about it, they wouldn't do confiscations. They would just grab people as they used them. No more concealed carry or hunting - they'll arrest you.

Then there's shooting an intruder in your house. You get arrested for illegal firearm possession. If the police ever search your house and find it, off you go to prison.

So you have a gun, but it never gets used or else you go to jail.

The government then starts paying a good rate for guns. People start taking these thjngs they can't use and turn them into cash.

They never cross the line where gun owners rise up, just slowly use attrition to get rid of guns.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (YQA13)

___________

Yeah I agree. Plus they will choke the supply of ammo. You can have all the guns you want, but nothing to fire from them.

Shit down all ammunition manufacturers and impose an import ban. Like with anything illegal, there will always be a black market.

And shit like if you are found to own a gun, you lose your kids to CPS, you lose security clearance, you can't work in a school, etc.

They'll make owning a gun a living hell for people who will eventually just say fuck it, and get rid of them voluntarily.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 02:08 PM (0LHZx)

554 Heh, apparently Hillary recently said she would "shut down" Congressional investigations she didn't like.

Every presidential candidate runs on how they would mind control congress or something, and every time it works and people vote for them. Its so predicatable: "here's what I'd do as president:
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
vote for me!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:08 PM (39g3+)

555
No problem, though, I'd take the church of Christ over Swedish lesbo bishops any day.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (LXJ1e)
_____________________________

Not me....

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (HSmrB)

556 Here's a link on the Swedish Bishop who wants to make Muslims feel welcome in praying in the church by taking down the crosses.

http://tinyurl.com/nvylyp3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (cgZPg)

557 If the fed ever does pass a confiscation law, there would be actions taken by some citizens which would remind law enforcement just how costly it could be before any confiscation would even start. And there are plenty of ways to do that. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Soona at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (Fmupd)

558 Nobody, I imagine, wants to get shot or go to jail. But an unjust law has to be resisted, somehow. Otherwise, you end up five years from now saying, "resisting gay marriage in my Catholic church means either going to jail for a long time or dying in some shootout with police."

A right that is not defended is no right at all.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2015 02:06 PM (zF6Iw)

____________

In theory this all sounds very nice. But I just don't see many individuals deciding it's worth ruining their lives in order to stand up to an unjust law.

On the left standing up to "unjust laws" means invitations to the white house and late night shows. On the right it means prison time.

It's just a fact of life.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (0LHZx)

559 new PPH video

how to ger brains from babies

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (zOTsN)

560 Free Kumbia!

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic what's dead at October 05, 2015 02:10 PM (/Ho8c)

561 559 new PPH video

how to ger brains from babies

HUH?

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:10 PM (hUdMz)

562 Just did a google search on "church of Christ" the vast majority of buildings didn't have crosses on them. A few did with crosses on the steeple. Some of the ones that had crosses where actually UCC building

Ah. On the building rather than "in." Yes, that goes back to the 1950s, I think. There was a big push from the more liberal faction of the church to make us "more like the other denominations" (first problem: coC does not consider itself a denomination- so perhaps using that formulation for an argument was unwise), which included starting to call the auditorium "the sanctuary," include a choir, and other things. So in a reactionary attempt to distance ourselves, we moved to boring buildings.

Most newer ones do have a cross somewhere on the exterior, and virtually all of them have one in a public place in the building somewhere (which may or may not be the auditorium- but mostly is). That's been my experience, at least, growing up in the coC.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:10 PM (kff5f)

563 Yeah I agree. Plus they will choke the supply of ammo. You can have all the guns you want, but nothing to fire from them.

Yeah, look at what Washington DC keeps trying and keeps getting hammered by courts for it. This is where the term "pissant" came from, this kind of pathetic nickle and dimeing restrictions, just little stuff that is obnoxious and frustrating.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:10 PM (39g3+)

564 Every presidential candidate runs on how they would mind control congress or something, and every time it works and people vote for them. Its so predicatable: "here's what I'd do as president:
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
-Something only congress can do
vote for me!"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:08 PM (39g3+)

_________

Well congress **OR** my pen and phone.

Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:10 PM (0LHZx)

565 They won't confiscate. Too complicated and too much potential to get messy. They'd regulate the shit out of everything. Want to buy a box of 50 rounds of 9mm? Ok sir, just fill out this NFA paperwork and pay the $200 for the stamp and in six months you can pick it up.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 05, 2015 02:11 PM (LYCUN)

566 I don't think my Bishop has my back overall, However, the hierarchy is really POed at the church (and was long before i got there)so it's not like they were a favorite to begin with. And if I lose my job I have more time to devote to my Christian drama ministry. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:03 PM (cgZPg)

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You know, there are always bad apples. At our parish there is an old lady that is a very negative complainer. One Sunday we some members bring in some friends that were visiting from out of town and one of them sat in "her" seat and she was loudly complaining about it for 10 minutes before the service. It was quite embarrassing.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 02:11 PM (LXJ1e)

567 Yeah I think the no comply people would simply bury the guns somewhere. But still even if that were the case, the left will have effectively got what they wanted.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 02:00 PM (0LHZx)


You really think that if the despotic State ever began sending agents door-to-door to confiscate guns, that all gun owners would simply sit placidly and wait their turn? There would be teams of militia out there killing politicians, and the families of politicians. Open season, as it were.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 02:11 PM (0yhH4)

568 sorry

"how to extract brains from aborted babies for fun and profit"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:11 PM (zOTsN)

569 From Ed Henry's twitter feed: Hillary (talking about the NRA) shouting, "Let's take back the 2nd Amendment from these extremists!"

Everything you need to know about Hillary in 140 characters, or less.

Posted by: Mr. Macca Bean at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (BZAd3)

570 Here's a link on the Swedish Bishop who wants to make Muslims feel welcome in praying in the church by taking down the crosses.

Uh... why would you allow worship of a false god (which Christians must, by definition, believe of Mohammedanism) inside your building? Let alone make it easier?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (kff5f)

571 A strategy outlined as Mew Mew suggests would result in Secession, and War.

Mew ... whenever I see someone take this style of argument, they're usually trying to persuade rather than predict. What about you?

Posted by: Irony at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (9miVc)

572 559 new PPH video

how to ger brains from babies
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (zOTsN)

Link for the newest video?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (2Ojst)

573 568 sorry

"how to extract brains from aborted babies for fun and profit"


Sadly no one will pay attention to it...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (hUdMz)

574 I mean, if you didn't have a cross on your building to begin with it's one thing but to take crosses DOWN to say nothing of the crosses IN the church and the baptismal font and other symbols that may be offensive to Muslims!! Don't call yourself a Christian anymore. You're betraying the faith.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (cgZPg)

575 Salon trolling again


To this day America has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment. Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (fWAjv)

576 Ugh, another PP video.
Is this the last one - or is there one more unreleased video?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

577 But yeah, the vast majority never have a cross on the building, nor inside if you go in.


===========================



We don't have any crosses at our church either. However, we do have Martians and the Hotel Transylvania.



(we don't have our own building. we meet in a movie theater.)

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (dFi94)

578 There are more than a few churches that Christ is going to spit out for being lukewarm or forgetting their first love. Candle, gone.

Megachurches figured out in the 90s that despite their size, the actual number of people going to church wasn't rising. All that was happening was people were moving from church to church til they got bored and then to another. So the same pool was just shuffling around.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (39g3+)

579
not just brains

skulls

like beheading late term abortion babies for resale

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (zOTsN)

580 But White Castles are steamed while on a griddle.. so, it's kinda both steamed and fried.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


How did I know you were an Arby's fan?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (JmGFJ)

581 You really think that if the despotic State ever began sending agents door-to-door to confiscate guns, that all gun owners would simply sit placidly and wait their turn? There would be teams of militia out there killing politicians, and the families of politicians. Open season, as it were.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2015 02:11 PM (0yhH4)


______________

It happened in England and Australia. It's nice to think America is different, but it's not really. People aren't going to go to war with the military in order to be able to own a gun. Some will, but the vast, vast, vast majority of people will comply. Democrats know this.

Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (0LHZx)

582
To this day America has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment. Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (fWAjv)

Hahahahahahah..choke hahahahaha...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (hUdMz)

583 Here's a link on the Swedish Bishop who wants to make Muslims feel welcome in praying in the church by taking down the crosses.

http://tinyurl.com/nvylyp3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:09 PM (cgZPg)



That is some powerful stupid right there.


But, again I must admire the persistence of the Leftard,

she clearly joined the Church, not because she loved it and wished to participate in it's growth and good works but-

spent all of those years working to get into a powerful enough position to destroy it from the inside.


Well played, progtards. Well played.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (0cMkb)

584 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (kff5f)

Because clearly she's a UU in the dress of a Christian Bishop and is trying to placate Muslims perhaps so she won't get her head cut off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (cgZPg)

585 To this day America has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment. Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women

For the love of god come to our site!!!! Click us!!!! it worked for the NYT with their stupid man article!!!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)

586 new footage

at life news.com

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (zOTsN)

587 >>To this day America has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment. Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women


Ummmm......show us where that is true in *practice* in a Muslim country.

That is so seriously stupid it huts.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 02:15 PM (NOIQH)

588 not just brains

skulls

like beheading late term abortion babies for resale
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (zOTsN)

Like I said too bad the media doesn't "care."

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:15 PM (hUdMz)

589 Uh... why would you allow worship of a false god (which Christians must, by definition, believe of Mohammedanism) inside your building? Let alone make it easier?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (kff5f)

Coexist dude. Coexist.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:15 PM (fWAjv)

590 556- I read that earlier today, Fenelon, and just felt sick. I will hazard a guess, and say that she thinks the Bible is just a silly old book, written by male patriarchal jerks so long ago that it isn't relevant today. My question for her is why is she in the church in the first place? If God and Christ are so offensive that you have to dilute their message, why bother being a bishop?

Posted by: Moki at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (x303I)

591 Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA a

Yeah, as long as women don't walk too closely behind men, or try to drive cars, or be seen in public without male relatives present, or...

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic what's dead at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (/Ho8c)

592 So if that UCC killer had committed suicide would it have been classified as white on black homicide.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (LXJ1e)

593 /sniff sniff

Egads. Smells like a hobo encampment in here.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (9krrF)

594
Coexist dude. Coexist.

Everytime I see one of those bumper stickers, and I see a lot Her in Commie NorCal, I want to ram that stupid car...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (hUdMz)

595 Because clearly she's a UU in the dress of a Christian Bishop and is trying to placate Muslims perhaps so she won't get her head cut off.

Well, true.

I think maybe Christian churches need to go back to some Theology 101 and start explaining to their members (and priests, in some cases) why we believe what we believe, and what that means for others' beliefs in relation to us.

Case in point: that Mohammedanism is (at best) a religion worshiping a false god, at worst a heresy and blaspheming of the Holy Spirit, and in either case an evil death cult.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (kff5f)

596 extra footage from the crush above crush below video

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (zOTsN)

597 If God and Christ are so offensive that you have to dilute their message, why bother being a bishop?

So you can ruin it for everybody!

Posted by: Pope Francis at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (YQA13)

598 571 A strategy outlined as Mew Mew suggests would result in Secession, and War.

Mew ... whenever I see someone take this style of argument, they're usually trying to persuade rather than predict. What about you?
Posted by: Irony at October 05, 2015 02:12 PM (9miVc)

___________

I'm telling you my opinion. Most people aren't going all militia and shit in order to keep their guns. And if (or more likely when) Democrats gain full power, they will ban guns. But it won't be a bill that says "all guns are now illegal". It will be small steps like magainze restrictions, then taxes on guns, then maybe an age increase to 25....bunch of small steps that over time will lead to an effective ban on guns.

But no one step will be big enough to get millions of people to revolt over it.

Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (0LHZx)

599 The first red flag in that article about the bishop is the the pronoun "she." Its like reading that the person involved says their name is pronounced "throat warbler mangrove" and is not to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)

600 >>Uh... why would you allow worship of a false god (which Christians must, by definition, believe of Mohammedanism) inside your building? Let alone make it easier?


Dunno. Let's ask the people who pipe the Muslim call to prayer from Duke's campus chapel, or IIRC, from the National Cathedral in DC.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (NOIQH)

601 In other news: Turkey says Russian warplane violated its airspace
It would seem that Putin has plans that require testing Turkey.
Tiny Url http://tinyurl.com/na4mp3z

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (CcpOY)

602 Who put this jack inside us??? Qe want to puke.

Posted by: J. S. Bach and C. P. E. Bach at October 05, 2015 02:18 PM (O96tM)

603 The Ewok is wanted by blogging authorities to face charges of commenter neglect.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 01:52 PM (NeFrd)


I chortled.

Posted by: Grump928(c) ponders at October 05, 2015 02:18 PM (evdj2)

604 Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (0LHZx)

Fucking sock

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 02:18 PM (0LHZx)

605 To this day America has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment. Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares the equality of men and women
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:13 PM (fWAjv)


Sura or hadith?

And have you lived in a Muslim theocracy? I have. It was loads of giggles when I was beaten for have some of my blond hair showing, or refused service at McDonald's with my kids, because I didn't have a male chaperone. That's some top-notch equality right there.

Posted by: Moki at October 05, 2015 02:18 PM (x303I)

606
It happened in England and Australia. It's nice to think America is different, but it's not really. People aren't going to go to war with the military in order to be able to own a gun. Some will, but the vast, vast, vast majority of people will comply. Democrats know this.
Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (0LHZx)

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I think this too. And the reason I think this is that the gun owners seem pretty OK with the government taking all the other rights away.

Hell the NRA made a deal with Harry Reid over restricting free speech.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 05, 2015 02:19 PM (LXJ1e)

607 nood and "improved" hillary

Posted by: joe at October 05, 2015 02:19 PM (KUaJL)

608 (we don't have our own building. we meet in a movie theater.)

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That's where kids a few generations from now will learn about churches, what they looked like, etc

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 02:20 PM (3ZtZW)

609 I think maybe Christian churches need to go back to some Theology 101 and start explaining to their members (and priests, in some cases) why we believe what we believe, and what that means for others' beliefs in relation to us.

I did a class on just that a few years back for adult sunday school. Was very well received, people were fascinated. I learned a lot too, as always. I haven't read much of Buddha's teachings but I did read the Koran.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 05, 2015 02:20 PM (39g3+)

610 Amateur Webzine Salon

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at October 05, 2015 02:20 PM (evdj2)

611 >>If God and Christ are so offensive that you have to dilute their message, why bother being a bishop?


To be open and affirming, of course!

See, the church loosened up a bit to allow this lesbian bishop and she thought "Hey, if bending the rules = inclusion of more (potential) parishioners, let's break a couple more and see who else we can welcome!"

Never mind that this moth make others feel less welcome.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 02:20 PM (NOIQH)

612 It was loads of giggles when I was beaten for have some of my blond hair showing,

Well of course! How dare you act so shamefully and dishonor the all-important male egos?

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic what's dead at October 05, 2015 02:21 PM (/Ho8c)

613 It's not like it's a one-way street, though; if they are battering-ram-and-flashbanging their way through your front door, as our legal system goes today your life-as-you-knew-it is already over except for some formalities and paperwork.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 05, 2015 02:21 PM (go6ud)

614 PP Defenders: "Yayyyy!! Research using an ongoing cell line from two aborted fetuses from the 1960's has saved millions of lives via vaccines and Alzheimer's research. Let's use more baby organs from Planned Parenthood for more research! Millions!!Yayyyy!!"



Inquiring mind: "How many millions of fetuses has PP aborted since its inception?"



#LivesOfOurChoosingMatter

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 02:22 PM (NeFrd)

615 Some will, but the vast, vast, vast majority of people will comply. Democrats know this.

========

After having almost-open racist Marxist Barry *re-elected* in a shit economy they certainly know it.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 02:23 PM (3ZtZW)

616 581 It happened in England and Australia. It's nice to
think America is different, but it's not really. People aren't going to
go to war with the military in order to be able to own a gun. Some will,
but the vast, vast, vast majority of people will comply. Democrats know
this.

Posted by: Barry Hussein at October 05, 2015 02:14 PM (0LHZx)


There is a very big difference between England, Australia, and the US. England and Australia have always had a tradition of limiting arms in their population. It was a major crime in the middle ages for a commoner to be in possession of a sword.

So England, and by default Australia the people are used to having their arms limited. After many years of Americans having their arms when the British tried to confiscate them there was open warfare.


But I think before we had open warfare again people would lawyer up and engage a class action suit. If that failed I think there would be some violent action taken.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 02:23 PM (t2KH5)

617 If God and Christ are so offensive that you have to dilute their message, why bother being a bishop?

So you can ruin it for everybody!
Posted by: Pope Francis
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Liberals are parasitic. They know no one would buy into their shit raw, so they salivate when they see a large influential organization the can coopt.

But like all parasites, they eventually kill the host.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 02:23 PM (O96tM)

618 Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at October 05, 2015 02:17 PM (CcpOY)

What was that thing about playing footsie with Iran and the Isalmists again? Nice job, Turkey. You went and surrounded yourselves with enemies while ticking off your allies.

You know, one could say that this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 05, 2015 02:24 PM (hLRSq)

619 Everytime I see one of those bumper stickers, and I see a lot Her in Commie NorCal, I want to ram that stupid car...

Posted by: donna at October 05, 2015 02:16 PM (hUdMz)


Did you see the ISIS cartoon of it?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:24 PM (fWAjv)

620 I posted so Ace up now.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 05, 2015 02:25 PM (t2KH5)

621 >>I mean how good can you expect a 50 cent taco to be?

Yeah.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 05, 2015 02:26 PM (c7vUv)

622 If God and Christ are so offensive that you have to dilute their message, why bother being a bishop?

=====

An interesting legalistic twist on the bishop thing: It can't be removed.

Its not a job so much as a status. Once the hands are laid on, its as if God touched them. They can stop being a bishop as a job, but not as a person - and a bishop can create other bishops.

So, there are lineages of bishops unconnected to any recognized church.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 05, 2015 02:27 PM (3ZtZW)

623 Ehhh, that ISIS cartoon was a knockoff.

Original

http://tinyurl.com/omrkyqh

The ISIS one doesn't have 'Radical Islam' nor the crescent on it..

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 05, 2015 02:28 PM (fWAjv)

624 Well of course! How dare you act so shamefully and dishonor the all-important male egos?
Posted by: Moderate Salami
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Islamic male egos. Islam elevates the worst human impulses into virtues, like male sexism.

But many of us in the west have our male egos under control. Tee-hee.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 05, 2015 02:30 PM (O96tM)

625 This urge to DO SOMETHING is really "do something about these intense emotions I have about the incident!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 01:44 PM (NOIQH)


This, big time

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at October 05, 2015 02:31 PM (laMCB)

626 622-wow, I never knew that. I don't come from a hierarchical denomination, so I do't know the intricacies. But one would think that taking a position such as bishop, the individual would consider the enormity of the responsibility before God, and how their actions come under more scrutiny, as they are teachers. That's some chutzpah, to defy Him like that.

Posted by: Moki at October 05, 2015 02:37 PM (x303I)

627 Sock off

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 03:16 PM (NeFrd)

628 250 Jollyrodger,

Probably this http://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b

"What I Saw At The Coup"

Posted by: ChrisP at October 05, 2015 03:43 PM (wrKnK)

629 The Left doesn't give a shit about the people shot. Their whole game is to use these incidents to yank the people's "liberty teeth" (as Thomas Jefferson called the Second Amendment). If they succeed in doing that, they'll have the power to abrogate the ENTIRE Bill of Rights, because the power of the individual citizen to engage in armed resistance is the ONLY guarantee of our rights.

And they know it. That's why they're so obsessed with castrating law-abiding citizens, despite their protests that it's all about the children or some shit.

WATCH WHAT THEY DO, not what they SAY. There you'll see what they're Really up to. Oh, and remember: everything the Left says is a lie, including "a," "and," and "the."

Posted by: Beverly at October 05, 2015 03:52 PM (urCP6)

630 Its simple every time children are shot the president should arrest n.r.a. leaders and pro gun congressmen and senators and put them in rail road cars in arizona while they await their trials for supporting child killing terrorism.

Posted by: gun control at October 05, 2015 04:00 PM (TkrxL)

631 Trump is simply canary in the coal mine...We cannot have the typical GOPe politician "fighting" for us when we are facing an opposition political party which is bent on the destruction of nearly half of the country.

Let me make this clear so there is no misunderstanding, gun control is simply freedom control. Obama made it clear in his speech that he want confiscation, so does Hillary just that Hillary is willing to do it by EO. It will not stop there.

Once again we are reaching a point when words run out. You cannot have compromise with people like this. I am not sure we are two political parties, but in fact we actually are two countries now. We have just grown that far apart from one another. I hope I am wrong and this will pass peacefully, but I don't think so because history says it won't.


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