SCOTUS Saves ObamaCare....Again

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Vote GOP because....Judges!

Oh yea, Anthony Kennedy also delivered another win for the liberals today.





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1 what a surprise....so close

Posted by: Mr Wizard at June 25, 2015 10:11 AM (eOpVe)

2 first

Posted by: mallfly at June 25, 2015 10:11 AM (qSIlh)

3 6-3?

God...

Posted by: HH at June 25, 2015 10:12 AM (Qia1Z)

4 ok, I lose twice in two minutes. What a way to say goodbye to one's country.

Posted by: mallfly at June 25, 2015 10:12 AM (qSIlh)

5 HIS LEGACY!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 25, 2015 10:12 AM (U6f54)

6 This sucks. Just absolutely sucks.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 10:12 AM (1BQGO)

7 Goodbye, USA, it was a good run.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at June 25, 2015 10:13 AM (rhjQp)

8 This will allow the GOPe to continue to pretend to be against it.

Posted by: Far Post at June 25, 2015 10:13 AM (EO4+3)

9 Fuck it

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 25, 2015 10:13 AM (BZAd3)

10 Game... Blouses

Posted by: dirty comma at June 25, 2015 10:13 AM (BeQwJ)

11 Laws mean what we say they mean, bitchez!

Posted by: SCOTUS at June 25, 2015 10:14 AM (7vbG1)

12 I wanna throw up

Posted by: Buddha at June 25, 2015 10:14 AM (3CczE)

13 Meh.

Our GOP leadership had already admitted they were going to save Obamacare no matter what the court ruled.

Posted by: Paul at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (egEWw)

14 Are we there yet?

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (W5DcG)

15
So, where is Gabe to lecture us that things dont mean what they clearly mean?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (iQIUe)

16 It's apparent that SCOTUS is just an activist organization. Legal reasoning is irrelevant.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (oVJmc)

17 So, yeah, about that whole voting thing..

Posted by: eman at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (MQEz6)

18 We are lost.

A republic, if you can keep it.

We couldn't.

Posted by: fuckme at June 25, 2015 10:15 AM (MNbm0)

19
"9 This will allow the GOPe to continue to pretend to be against it."

They won't need to keep up the pretense much longer, methinks.

Posted by: Advo at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (7vbG1)

20 18 yeah it's been gone for a while now

Posted by: Buddha at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (3CczE)

21 Go Galt.
Stop the engine.

Posted by: Shelley at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (P9kAG)

22 I tell the Delegation Doctrine about the lube and I tell it. . . .

Fuck this shit, I'm eating that entire can of Pringles. Let's all pretend I wasn't going to do that anyway, shall we?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (mf5HN)

23 Did a whole bunch of comments just disappear?

Posted by: johnd01 at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (ukNFU)

24 Stupid FSA parasites. If you like your subsidies you can keep your subsidies.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (1BQGO)

25 So, I guess laws mean whatever we want them to mean.

Welcome to Humpty Dumpty Land.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:16 AM (/Ho8c)

26 Not so fast on the housing:

"Court holds that illegal disparate impact arises only if the policy is "arbitrary, artificial, and unncessary."

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:17 AM (iQIUe)

27 Don't use the flaming skull and SCOTUS until the king vs but well results. I'd prefer to have only one massive stroke.

Posted by: Jimmy Wing Palantine Records at June 25, 2015 10:17 AM (Ww2BM)

28 The good news that if a Republican were ever elected to the WH, he could just do away with the subsidies without Congressional input.

The bad news is, now that this POTUS has carte blance from SCOTUS to deliberately ignore the text of the law, will a Republican ever be elected again?

The worse news is, even if a Republican were elected, you honestly think they'd fight for the Republican platform? They'd Boehnor-ize so fast...

Posted by: SaveFarris at June 25, 2015 10:17 AM (R1HtA)

29 Let's be honest here. Even if the ruling had gone the other way, there was no way Dogeater was going to abide by it. All this does is formally announce that his word is Law.

Posted by: Anonymous Scandi Hobo who doesn't want to be turned into Jerky at June 25, 2015 10:17 AM (TExOc)

30 How does GOP do such a shit job selecting judges? Gotta vote for them to protect court.

Posted by: Dan in Michigan at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (2yD4G)

31 New Legislative Method: The Executive makes it up. The courts say it's law.

Posted by: Mr Wizard at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (eOpVe)

32 Follow-up to question asked on prior thread:

If some of the (R) appointees on the SCOTUS were somehow thoroughly compromised, would they behave any differently?

It's done, folks. Vote all you want, but it's done. But it had to be.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (bGLSw)

33 While everyone is going collectively batshit crazy over symbols of slavery from 150 years ago, we are ignoring all becoming slaves of the government, what with forced purchases and providing labor for another against one's will.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (/Ho8c)

34 We need a new fucking party. Voting idiot REPUB is fucking pointless. They give us bigger government, liberalism writ large, and liberal judges.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (COpZ4)

35 Can we have an Article V convention now?

Posted by: Phil at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (39FGM)

36 Yay!

Posted by: The FSA/LIV/LGBT/Marxist/LaRaza coalition at June 25, 2015 10:18 AM (L52Oz)

37 It's now inarguable that the only options that are left are an Article V convention, or secession.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (hjQw4)

38 "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government . . ."

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (4KoRb)

39 NO longer my government. THIS government is at war with me. I WILL fight back.

Posted by: Talkin' Taqyia2Me, aka DNC/MSM at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (sJuKe)

40 I have lost all zeal for the mission. I will terminate it.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (VcOqI)

41 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f)

42 off sock

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (L52Oz)

43 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f)

44 "The majority also acknowledges that the challengers' "arguments about the plain meaning . . . are strong."

But because its important to uphold Obamacare, words don't have meaning, and what is passed by Congress doesn't matter. So screw it, we love Obamacare... aka SCOTUSCare.

Posted by: Patrick H at June 25, 2015 10:19 AM (6dcmF)

45 When you're stockpiling ammunition, don't forget that stockpiling magazines is just as important.

Posted by: Chupacabras at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (kZVsz)

46 Shit, fan, fan, shit.

Posted by: eman at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (MQEz6)

47 Let's be honest here. Even if the ruling had gone
the other way, there was no way Dogeater was going to abide by it. All
this does is formally announce that his word is Law.

Posted by: Anonymous Scandi Hobo


I agree, I don't think it would've changed anything in the results. But it does set further precedent for not upholding the laws as written.


Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (/Ho8c)

48 LET IT ALL FUCKING BURN...........

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (0O7c5)

49 And tomorrow, gay marriage will be made mandatory.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (oVJmc)

50 The Constitution and Magna Carta had good runs.

Posted by: gm at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (K0tm3)

51 Terrible.

Posted by: Y-not at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (RWGcK)

52 I hate everything.

Posted by: Crizzyboo at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (ivSky)

53 OK.. but what about teh gays???? I was hoping for a rainbow party in the streets this afternoon!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (so+oy)

54 Basically the court said, well yeah the law says one thing, but they didn't really mean it, so we will say it's OK.

This is the legal system in America led my douchebag bald spot John Roberts.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (COpZ4)

55 Thanks Kennedy. Thanks Roberts. "Intent" trumps all.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (DGi08)

56
Whew! Off the hook.

Well, looks like we'll be using the "Obamacare Ruling Draft A" fundraising letter today.

Posted by: The Republicans

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (kdS6q)

57 I am indifferent. If this had been struck down, it wouldn't even have provided a brief respite before the Republicans restored the credits.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (evdj2)

58 Stick a fork in it (USA).

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (L52Oz)

59 OK.. but what about teh gays???? I was hoping for a rainbow party in the streets this afternoon!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (so+oy)


They are going to OK Gay marriage.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (wq4B0)

60 God save us.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (s/yC1)

61
PINK! is my favorite crayon.

PINK! is like red, but not quite.

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (gTEMl)

62 No words. Foregone conclusion.

The country is now the USSA.

We should now look to the history of eastern Europe for the way to continue.

Low-growth socialism is the future of the USSA.

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (QoSR8)

63
This is great news! Congress can be disbanded, and the Preznit and Supreme Court can rule by decree! Say goodby to our beloved America!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (P330y)

64 SCUMBAGS. Third Party now. Kennedy and Roberts are useless.

Posted by: crusader at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (tSPir)

65 While Roberts' opinion is just plain stupid, it is definitely better than his law Obamacare opinion. Which was probably one of the worst reasoned opinion of all time.

Posted by: gm at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (K0tm3)

66
Roberts went right the fuck out of the way last time to save this law. Anybody that thinks they were gonna dunk it in the toilet this time is nuts.

No surprise.

Posted by: Sam In VA at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (FcHky)

67

"I would liked to have seen -- Montana."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (kdS6q)

68 Next year they steal another Election.

Posted by: eman at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (MQEz6)

69 I welcome our new totalitarian state. To the victor goes the spoils. Embrace the spoils...

When do the hunger games start?

Posted by: Leland at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (6a9j4)

70 It was a great run.

Dr. Franklin, I'm sorry we couldn't keep it. Some of us tried.

Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (7ObY1)

71 So, they used an original intent argument?

Looking forward to seeing that applied across the board.

Any. Day. Now.

Posted by: Chupacabras at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (XiVKO)

72 SS"M" is going to become abortion's roommate tomorrow as they squat in the house that is the Constitution.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (shFKH)

73 That's it! Now, I'm mad! I'm gonna start a petition for secession today! Illinois will secede from Chicago!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (so+oy)

74 So the next time somebody tells me I absolutely, positively MUST vote Republican because of Supreme Court nominations I'll just beat them to death instead.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (sdi6R)

75 What difference, at this point, does it make? We are not ruling this country with our vote. Its past time to stop playing THEIR game. If the Supreme Court can disregard law, if they can disregard actual words of a law, then what the fuck is left?

Time to change the rules, kids.

Posted by: jagoff at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (WNYK+)

76 Why haven't John Roberts underage mail order brides been deported yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (C5Jpx)

77 Shocked, shocked we all are.

Or not. Totally predictable. At least they threw out the idiotic raisin law for what its worth.

Even if they had somehow shown a shred of intellectual firepower and thrown out the entire bill, the GOP in congress would save it with an emergency piece of legislation.

People wonder why I say this country cannot be turned around. Its not that there are no good people or potentially great candidates. Its that they're too much in the minority. And that's because a democracy gets the government that reflects its culture and social identity. Until that culture changes, until the virtue of the republic is recovered, things will only head in one inevitable direction.

Only a spectacular act of God or ruin will change this trajectory.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (39g3+)

78 But, but!

We have to keep voting GOP because Supreme Court picks!!!!1!!

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (SCcgT)

79 Thanks Kennedy. Thanks Roberts. "Intent" trumps all.

And 'intent' allows for mission creep.

If reality fails to conform, greater action is licensed, because 'intent.' Whether the law outlines it or not, the court says its allowed because 'intent.'

In other words, power is not unlimited.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (oVJmc)

80 Not only will they OK gay marriage they will say you must be fucked in the ass by a gay man or else pay a fine, errr tax of 100 dollars.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (COpZ4)

81 Sorry, 'not limited.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (oVJmc)

82 It's fitting that Roberts is leading the way: he obliterated his religious conscience years ago.

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (QoSR8)

83 OK.. but what about teh gays???? I was hoping for a rainbow party in the streets this afternoon!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:20 AM (so+oy)


I suspect Gabe is stocking up for the mother of all celebrations.

His sneering at we troglodyte breeders should be epic.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (zF6Iw)

84 That Confederate Flag is looking better everyday. I guess Sparky knew this decision so he wanted to celebrate with a flag lynching.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (oDCMR)

85 "A fair reading of the legislation demands a fair understanding of the legislative plan."

Except a fair reading of the plan means that it should not have been upheld. And you can't go by the plan because there were 60 different voices. And so you must make a fair reading of the legislation. And its clear what the legislation said.

Posted by: Patrick H at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (6dcmF)

86 Again, my penetrating legal analysis. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCKING FUCK!!! Fuck the majority of SCOTUS judges, and fuck Roberts in particular. The statute wasn't ambiguous, you stupid lawless sucker of Obama's cock!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (2Ojst)

87 Its an appalling ruling. What a disappointment Roberts has been.

Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (gmeXX)

88 Second look at GWB being the worst President in history?

Posted by: gm at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (K0tm3)

89 3rd Party?

Posted by: Nevsky at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (uingK)

90 Emanations and penumbras redux.

Posted by: Talkin' Taqyia2Me, aka DNC/MSM at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (sJuKe)

91 Anyone who votes for any GOP candidate, donates money to any GOP PAC or candidate, or volunteers time and effort to any GOP candidate or organization, is a fool and is not remotely conservative.

The GOP is to be judged by its actions - not its fundraising appeals. the GOP does not stand for smaller gov't, reducing the size of gov't, reducing spending, repealing Obamacare, deregulation, strong borders, or any other thing that Conservatives believe in.

Voting for the GOP is voting for the DNC. If you vote GOP, you are a leftist. Period.

Don't tell me how we need to vote GOP to save SCOTUS. SCOTUS a) won't "save us" and b) doesn't vote conservative most of the time anyway, even with alleged conservatives on the Court.

The only way to achieve any conservative result is to destroy the GOP and build it back up again. The GOP will not move right if you vote for it despite its leftist actions. If you believe it will - that you are "doing something" because you vote for a "conservative" candidate in this or that primary - you are an idiot. You are the GOP's wet dream - someone they can keep selling the same bridge to over and over and over again.

All conservatives should refuse to vote GOP until the GOP gets rid of its entire current leadership (including Boehner, McConnel, everyone at National GOP, all "consultants", all aides in the house and senate - everyone remotely connected to the current incarnation of GOP leadership in any way) and starts to take action in furtherance of conservative goals. Otherwise, you are voting for the GOP to pursue the same exact policy as the DNC.

Suckers.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (3ZtZW)

92 So they can overturn a state constitution decided by a plurality of voters, but not a backroom FU from Fascist Socialists.

Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Ghost of Charlemagne on his throne atop SMOD at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (1GtsO)

93 "The good news that if a Republican were ever elected to the WH..."

You can put that worry out of your mind. Just look around you at the mounting hysteria over an ancient flag. Is this a center-right republic? It's an open-air insane asylum.

Posted by: despair at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (J6suc)

94 Iran is looking better every day.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (zauWW)

95 57 I am indifferent. If this had been struck down, it wouldn't even have provided a brief respite before the Republicans restored the credits.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:21 AM (evdj2)

Yeah, this. The best the GOP can do now is wait for a friendly president, take out the really bad bits, and move along. We're stuck with it.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

96 now watch them rule against gay marriage just to create a wedge issue.

Posted by: DCPensFan at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (ma/2m)

97 Everyone should have gotten As on all their exams. After all, I'm sure everyone's intent was to ace them, right?

My brain hurts.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (shFKH)

98 Failure Theater - Curtains Up in 5 minutes


Boneless and Turdle pass a meaningless repeal bill

cuz they're the fightin'est fighters whatever fought.


Please return to your seats.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (0cMkb)

99
Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to give insurance companies access to your wallets.

Posted by: Wendy at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (KydDZ)

100 "God save us."

Not going to happen. Things are now (and have been for 2,000 years) as they were at Babel: all nations have been set aside in rebellious unbelief. He's dealing solely with individuals at the moment, and that solely through the cross of Christ.

But the Day will come (before too long, I reckon) where He once again deals with nations, and this time it will be in wrath the like of which the earth has not yet seen.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (bGLSw)

101 "Can we have an Article V convention now?"

Sure, why not. How bad can it be?

I'm sure there is a point out there somewhere, a point too far. We might well get there one day, but we're not there yet. Apparently.

Can you feel it? The power of LOVE!

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (gTEMl)

102 Not surprised one bit. Roberts The Fucker, invented shit to affirm it the first time, this was easy compared to that.

Posted by: Walknot at June 25, 2015 10:24 AM (FnHBZ)

103 So IVY LEAGUE wins again.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (oDCMR)

104 88 Second look at GWB being the worst President in history?

I'm just wondering how Harriet Miers could have been any worse.

Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (7ObY1)

105 But...but... NO ONE read the Act before they voted on it! It wasn't the will of the electorate but the Fiat From The King that created ObamaCare.
Jeez, it's not like the Supremes haven't shot down dozens of laws that the vast majority of folks supported.

Posted by: 5Cats at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (EbYrW)

106 Congressional intent is determined BY THE PLAIN FUCKING LANGUAGE OF THE LEGISLATION!!! Goddam shit-eating political hacks!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (2Ojst)

107 At this point in time, I would willingly join an armed insurrection or IRA like group focused on enforcing the constitution.

The U.S. is no more. Only violent revolution can reinstate the nation.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (3ZtZW)

108 Well, at least we will have a cool looking rebel flag this time, before our ultimate defeat by the Leviathan State: The Gadsden, of course.

Time to buy more guns and ammo and finish Sharkman's Apocalypse Redoubt and Whiskey Distillery/Whore House/Armory.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (rXB/r)

109 I'm DONE! I have changed my voting affiliation to Independent but that's not enough. I will NEVER vote again. They win, we always lose. Too bad we never fought hard enough to stop what has happened.

Posted by: Terry at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (qPkh1)

110 Let it burn! This is why all I have been investing since 2012 is Ammo and Metals. Looks like I also need to add Marshmallow to the list.

Posted by: MarkyMark at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (mTi2/)

111 Intent can mean anything.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (C5Jpx)

112 Why people cling to the "blackmailed Roberts" idea is beyond me. This is who he is: he will not ever overthrow Obamacare because he believes that would taint his legacy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (39g3+)

113 "After acknowledging the strength of the plain language arguments from the challengers, the majority says "In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent statutory phrase."

Because screw what is written on the page. That's clearly not what they meant!

That's a recipe for success.

Posted by: Patrick H at June 25, 2015 10:25 AM (6dcmF)

114 So why did they bother putting anything on paper? No one read the thing before it was passed. The president doesn't follow any of the provisions that were put on paper. And the Supreme Court says one word is as good as another in its texts --- mandates can be taxes --- states subsidies can be federal ones.

It is complete and utter madness. I will say it again. Our government has not been a legitimate entity for a long time now and this ruling just rubs that fact in our faces. You have no recourse in the law because the law is what they decide it is even if they decide it is something completely opposite the text.

Posted by: Thatch at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (pBZp4)

115 Should we still vote for that Flynn guy?

Posted by: eman at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (MQEz6)

116 two words: Jonathon Gruber.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (Uq9ly)

117 So according to SCOTUS, poorly written law means whatever those in power wants it to mean? Yeah that will go over well.

Posted by: LizLem, Flynn for the Win! at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (3Oe6N)

118 Collapse the system. Sign up for everything no matter what your income.

That is one thing you can do. Anything that will take time, labor, and money from the gub'mint just do it. It is one thing you can do while syill paying for your Home and Family.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (6yehy)

119 I wonder what dirt the NSA found on Roberts and Kennedy? Just sayin'.

Posted by: MC Slammer at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (eKIg1)

120 To 80, it's called a penalty, now bend over

Posted by: Leland at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (6a9j4)

121 Remember, folks, we all need to get firmly behind Jeb for President. So that we can have more great Bush family judicial picks like Chief Justice John Roberts.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (noWW6)

122 So, yeah, we have reached "peak liberalism."

Just like Kristalnacht signified "peak Nazism."

The Fuckening proceeds apace.

Posted by: Milesdei at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (q7RPx)

123 The One Payor system is just over the Horizon and all that comes with that. Like long lines foe simple procedures unless your rich and famous

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (wq4B0)

124 So, yeah, we have reached "peak liberalism."

Just like Kristalnacht signified "peak Nazism."

The Fuckening proceeds apace.

Posted by: Milesdei at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (q7RPx)

125 The disparate impact decision is a HUGE loss for common sense. This is a very dark day.

Posted by: SavetheEarth at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (/85s/)

126
Chief Justice John Roberts again voted with
his liberal colleagues in support of the law. Roberts also was the key
vote to uphold the law in 2012. Justice Anthony Kennedy, a dissenter in
2012, was part of the majority on Thursday.



Anyone who ever makes the "bu - bu - judges" argument for voting GOP again gets fed to the hounds.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (kdS6q)

127 116 two words: Jonathon Gruber.


Fuck that guy in particular

Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (7ObY1)

128
I suspect Gabe is stocking up for the mother of all celebrations.

His sneering at we troglodyte breeders should be epic.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (zF6Iw)

He'll probably post here tomorrow.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (shFKH)

129 g

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (JOG+K)

130 "Roberts went right the fuck out of the way last time to save this law. Anybody that thinks they were gonna dunk it in the toilet this time is nuts. "

Exactly. The only precedent that matters. He's got his reputation on the DC cocktail circuit to consider. What's our nation next to that? Be reasonable.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (s/yC1)

131 John Roberts:" Now can I be lionized as a real cool guy by the MSM." Constitutional Douchenozzle. Say that fast five times in a row.

Posted by: Hulugu at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (VSm85)

132 That is the only thing it would let me post

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (JOG+K)

133 "Congress passed the ACA to improve health insurance markets, not destroy them"

Quite an assumption to base a ruling on.

Congress passed legislation that they barely read, amongst unified opposition, and did so using parliamentary procedures against normal protocol to do so.

How about agreeing that their intent was nothing but devious and malicious.

Posted by: dirty comma at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (BeQwJ)

134 Second look at GWB being the worst President in history?

I'm just wondering how Harriet Miers could have been any worse.

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It certainly doesn't help. Even if Roberts were to vote correctly 100% from hereon - you are kind of defined by your big case. You write Koramatsu - no matter what else you do - you have done great disservice to the Constitution.

Miers likely could have been worse. Alito replaced her. But Miers for Roberts - sure I'd make that trade.

Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (gmeXX)

135 The Culture of Rape continues. Thanks Roberts.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (oDCMR)

136 Remember, folks, we all need to get firmly behind Jeb for President. So that we can have more great Bush family judicial picks like Chief Justice John Roberts.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (noWW6)

hey what am I, chopped Liver?

Posted by: Souter at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (wq4B0)

137 The reason is racism.

The Republican leaders only have one constituency--The Media. And the Media tell them that The only reason a person would question the intelligence, abilities or achievements of a black man, would be if that person was a racist. There is NO other legitimate reason.

So the GOP runs away with its tail between its legs because it doesn't want to be called "racist." Never mind the fact that they will be, time and time again.

Posted by: Null at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (xjpRj)

138 unbelievable

Roberts really was a stealth liberal justice.
Next up is gay marriage.

Here's what pisses me off, I'm not a Bush fan, but he absolutely did not try and sneak a liberal SC justice in there, he genuinely thought he was appointing a conservative

Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (EU6nT)

139 "In a democracy, the power to make law rests with those chosen by the people"*
-Roberts

*except if it's something we arbitrarily feel like substituting our judgment on, like abortion, homosexual 'marriage', obamacare, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: crusader at June 25, 2015 10:27 AM (tSPir)

140 Intent is utterly irrelevant to constitutionality. Has no bearing whatsoever. it does not matter what the bill was intended to do, only what it does.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (39g3+)

141 Surprised, anyone?

Really?

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (6xtq3)

142 #77 "a democracy gets the government that reflects its culture and social identity. Until that culture changes, until the virtue of the republic is recovered, things will only head in one inevitable direction."

Exactly, and we are seeing the current culture in all it's "glory". It will get worse since virtually all the centers of power are held by the worst of our culture. And the ones in power mean to stay in power.

Posted by: jjod at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (0r7PZ)

143 What other laws can use 'intent' to our favor? That a lifetime appointment to the supreme court was 'intended' to only mean while you are sane?

Posted by: RedDish at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (5eXg1)

144 Speaking of the CIVIL WAR

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (wq4B0)

145 i'm getting sick of people saying we actually win when we are fucking losing........looking at you greta van sustren....... and fuck paul ryan.....this is what he wanted....and why he wouldn't fucking answer the question asked of him weeks ago about what the plan was when the sc overturned the subsidies.....he fucking knew....so fuck him....fuck the scotus....fuck the gop time to turn the tables over......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (0O7c5)

146 118 Collapse the system. Sign up for everything no matter what your income.


While I appreciate the sentiment, I just don't have it in me to be a parasite. Couldn't be one even if I tried.

Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (7ObY1)

147 I blame Bush for giving us Roberts. I'll blame anyone else that suggests we vote Jeb.

Posted by: Leland at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (6a9j4)

148 Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to give insurance companies access to your wallets.

Funny because it's true. If you haven't thought about it, I need to point out that in the New United States, it is you obligation as a citizen to cheat the government at all levels out of money. Actually steal from them if you have the opportunity but at least deny them your money, by hook or by crook.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (evdj2)

149 Welcome to Lewis Carroll's drug trip.

'When I use a word', Humpty dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (JOG+K)

150 Justice John Marshall better be getting every inch of Satan's barbed cock.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (2Ojst)

151
Depressing.

Posted by: dan-O at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (rnB5q)

152 Corruption top to bottom. I was going to 'half Galt' it anyway but I think 'half Galt' is just a stop along the way to 'full Galt'. Deny your vote, deny your taxes.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (7v8o1)

153 Luckily for me, the court is composed of American people. And They're STUPID

Posted by: Gruber at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (/eTPT)

154 Put your money under your mattress and start drinkin'.

I predicted it: no one has the guts to take candy away from the babies.

Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (cHuNI)

155 If you have have a large house and live alone, why not invite your Children or Grand Children to come live with? Not only will you save money this way you will probably be happier with people around you.

You have unwanted or unneeded land, vehicles, or anything else of value deed it or gift it to a Church. Take it off the Tax Rolls.

Deprive the system of money while taking as much as you can.

No shame. Collapse the system.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (91eZY)

156 Piece of shit traitors.

Posted by: ElKomandante at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (APQ2q)

157 SS"M" is going to become abortion's roommate tomorrow as they squat in the house that is the Constitution.

Now there's a metaphor.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (ZKzrr)

158 Chief Justice Roberts rules in favor of continued tongue-baths from the NYT editorial boards.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (O7MnT)

159 If we ever thought otherwise, it is now confirmed. We are
f--ed. By a supposed conservative judge. He apparently fooled W into thinking him even mildly conservative!

Posted by: AnnaS at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (P+I7L)

160 I'm not surprised, but goddam I'm fucking pissed.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ojst)

161 Thank Heaven they won't be passing any more laws without reading them first!/

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (l3vZN)

162 Term Limits for Everyont, including SCOTUS!
The JEF has something on Roberts!
Justice Scalia said it should now be called SCOTUSCare!

Posted by: Carol at June 25, 2015 10:29 AM (sj3Ax)

163 "I would liked to have seen -- Montana."


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix


LOL

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (/Ho8c)

164 So a court made up of Jews and Catholics has spoken for a country of Protestants.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (oDCMR)

165 I have about 6 more years in the Navy, then I can declare Bankruptcy and fuck everyone. And be like everyone else

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (wq4B0)

166 MP4 - His sneering at we troglodyte breeders should be epic.

............
Yeah.. it will be a Prancercise chain party going on for blocks..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (so+oy)

167 Should we still vote for that Flynn guy?

God bless Ace for supporting his friend but this ship is dead in the water.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (oVJmc)

168 This is the end of law in America.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (4KoRb)

169 So subsidies remain meaning health care costs will continue to soar. At what point can it no longer be sustained? 25% GDP? 30% GDP? I guess we just keep printing and borrowing money to cover the spiraling deficits. This disaster just continues to get worse.

On the other hand no more confederate flags so the country is addressing it's big problems and headed in the right direction.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (1BQGO)

170 Peak Liberalism!

Peak!

It's all downhill from here! The Conservative Sun is Rising!

Peak! Liberalism!

Posted by: Milesdei at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (q7RPx)

171 he genuinely thought he was appointing a conservative

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Most people did. But he ultimately made the choice. And he then elevated Roberts to CJ. Perhaps Roberts as an associate justice would have remained more conservative - who knows.

Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (gmeXX)

172
well, you all know that I am in salesman mode, but we can either let them beat us into submission, or we can start tearing this fucking place up.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:30 AM (bhepQ)

173 While I appreciate the sentiment, I just don't have it in me to be a parasite. Couldn't be one even if I tried.





Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM (7ObY1)

More than likely you will not qualify for anything. Your application has to be preprocessed by law. Time, labor, money. It all costs the gub'mint.
Starve the beast.
No shame!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (91eZY)

174 #38

That declamaration of independenture stuff? Yeah tl;dr.

Posted by: LIVs at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (3Oe6N)

175 Time to go on TV and admit the truth about subsidies. There's no double jeopardy for scotus, right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Posted by: Gruber at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (/eTPT)

176 GWB would have done a better job picking a random drunk hobo off the street and appointing him Chief Justice. Either Roberts is truly a mental midget, or he is totally compromised. I'm starting to think the conspiracies about him may be right. Or maybe he's a deep cover Russian sleeper working to destroy the Republic. There's got to be something more to the story about the most foolish man to ever sit on the court.

Posted by: gm at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (K0tm3)

177 Clean up requested.

Drunken retard barfing all over the place-

Aisle 107.


Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (0cMkb)

178 God save us.

Posted by: rrpjr


Amen.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (/Ho8c)

179 Still doesn't change the fact we have no money. Every dollar the feds reimburse states and insurance companies for these subsidies is printed and borrowed money, weakening every dollar you earn. All SCOTUS did was bring our fiscal collapse even closer.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (nkUcM)

180 In Bush's defense, Roberts looked amazing at the time. There wasn't any reason to suppose that he'd be so idiotically easy to manipulate by the left.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (39g3+)

181 I feel sorry for my kids

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (wq4B0)

182 Yeah, up is the new down.

Not really surprised, somewhat disapointed but even if they had the GOPe would have reserected it.

Posted by: Gmac - Just Fuck it all at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (4CRfK)

183 Don't forget 41's choice of David Souter, how did that work out?

Posted by: Terry at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (qPkh1)

184 I have about 6 more years in the Navy, then I can declare Bankruptcy and fuck everyone. And be like everyone else
Posted by: Nevergiveup
...............
Have they given you guys mandatory gay indoctrination training yet? Do they include lessons on the best place on the ship for a quick BJ?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (so+oy)

185 To Mr. Taylor, re 140... The intent of AUMF in Iraq was to overthrow Saddam, it is even what is says. But today, by title alone, it is used as justification to send a paltry amount of US troops to fight ISIS beyond the intended 90 days of the War Powers Act. Intent is just a pretense for argument sake.

Posted by: Leland at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (6a9j4)

186 Basically, the court is offering a technical opinion as to what will "improve" or "destroy" insurance markets, and changing the law accordingly to what IT says will improve them.

It's outrageous. Justices have been compromised, and so we do not have rule of law - the law is whatever the commies SAY it is.

Posted by: Optimizer at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (/q6+P)

187 15


So, where is Gabe to lecture us that things dont mean what they clearly mean?
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Wasn't he the leader, in regards to the first ruling to save Obaaamacare, that it was totally awesome 'cause of the restrictions on the Commerce Clause?

Yeah, because that's been fucking great.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (ZvKdv)

188 >>>Should we still vote for that Flynn guy?

>>>>God bless Ace for supporting his friend but this ship is dead in the water.

John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale might want to have a word with you all about giving up in the face of stiff adversity.

I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (bhepQ)

189 Ugh. Canada has so many of its own problems with the socialists and SJW crowds. Republic of Texas would be cool but I'm not migrating to that weather for only state of Texas.

I'd love to join in a general strike to demand O-care and the EPA carbon crap be removed but until then just trying to enjoy life and not be overwhelmed by the political BS.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (iA/+T)

190 As if we needed more proof:

America's status - "fundamental transformed."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (NOIQH)

191 When do the Repubs come out and start whining that the big bad Court has stopped them again from fixing everything in the country that Obama wrecked, like health insurance?


Oh, and I can't wait till they put up a Section 8 housing project next to some rich liberals!

Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (cHuNI)

192 Boy, the GOP guys and gals are really going to have to work some overtime now!

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (6xtq3)

193 So...when will hear that SCOTUS has made SSM the law of the land?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (NOIQH)

194 Nevergiveup,

So do I.

As well as my grandchildren.

SMFH.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (kmtse)

195 Impeach Judge Roberts.

Posted by: Talkin' Taqyia2Me, aka DNC/MSM at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (sJuKe)

196 And now, as Drew points out: Anyone still want to make the case that we must vote for the GOP because of the courts?

And if you do: GTFO--you are just too fucking stupid.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (ZvKdv)

197 Monkeytoe,

you're aware that the US attorneys are going after Reason for their commenters' IPs and such, right?

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (bhepQ)

198
re: Gabe

Gabriel Malor
It's a very big deal that SCOTUS takes Obamacare out of normal Chevron framework. It means a future GOP executive can't reverse the reg.

Whatever that means in lawyer moon language. Doesn't sound good.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (kdS6q)

199 In a democracy, the wolves get to eat the sheep.

Posted by: SCROTUS at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (W5DcG)

200 Now that they're safe, watch every other state exchange shut down

Posted by: Gruber at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (/eTPT)

201 What is the point of congress writing laws?

If Obama and supreme court can just make the law say whatever they want?

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (COpZ4)

202 Between racist flags and gender fluidity, the USSC ruling that the text of a law means whatever preezy awesome says it means makes this a much saner day than usual.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (D5hxK)

203 It's a madhouse! A Maaaaaaaad Hooouuuuuuuuuuuse!!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (JO9+V)

204 Kakistocracy. It's us.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (s/yC1)

205 Ok great. So it's secession then.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (6qR/9)

206 Next up ...repeal the 2nd

Posted by: John R - Lib hack at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (yq4gk)

207 Come oh mighty SMOD!

Posted by: Ghost of Charlemagne on his throne atop SMOD at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (1GtsO)

208 Oh well.

SMOD, now would be good.

Posted by: eman at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (MQEz6)

209 Fucking shit up.

Sounds like a plan, ace.

I just don't see how voting accomplishes that, though.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (kmtse)

210 Concur with 177

Posted by: Leland at June 25, 2015 10:34 AM (6a9j4)

211 Eric Holder Calls Charleston Shooting Domestic Terrorism Still Labels Ft. Hood Islamic Terror Attack Workplace Violence

Weasel Zippers

I'm am posting this as good news to cheer you all up. That is how bad things are getting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (wq4B0)

212 Who ever it was that recommend SAMe as a supplement and an aid to combat depression, I have to say thank you. It seems to be working.


This news out of the Supreme Court is good news! It means we are one step closer to getting some long held and carefully nursed grudges settled.

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (gTEMl)

213 And now, as Drew points out: Anyone still want to make the case that we must vote for the GOP because of the courts?

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It gets harder each day.

Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (gmeXX)

214 "Oh, and I can't wait till they put up a Section 8 housing project next to some rich liberals!


Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (cHuNI)"
Won't happen. Sudden Rezoning Law Syndrome" will strike.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (91eZY)

215 Great, I get to tell my kid he has to pay off $10 Trillion of Obama debt and carry a crushing debt for the remainder of his life while receiving third world medical care. Viva La Revolution.

I hope my kid will grow to like rice and beans.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (oDCMR)

216 >>>Gabriel Malor
It's a very big deal that SCOTUS takes Obamacare out of normal Chevron framework. It means a future GOP executive can't reverse the reg.

yes that sounds like they gave their ruling an Extra Special Dose of Unconstitutionality and said "This isn't even a reg, this is the law of the land."

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (bhepQ)

217 I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.

Not really. Lack of hope is sinful, but despair is not an improper thing. Read the Psalms some time.

Its cool to go down fighting but in the end, it didn't make any difference to Godzilla's foot. And the people who found a way to pull back and survive are still around when Godzilla goes back into the sea.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (39g3+)

218 I am so depressed any more. I don't know how much more of this crap I can take. The left has won. I feel like it's over for this country.

Posted by: runningrn at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (sUP4M)

219 I just got a call from the Young Republicans. I laughed, said "F you traitors.." The caller said "But Hillary!" I said "Truly at this point what difference does it make?"

Then I hung up.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (u0lmX)

220 @GOP is promising that a Republican president will repeal Obamacare.

Who believes them?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (O7MnT)

221 I don't give a shit about Laws or the Feral government anymore.
I've spent decades being an honest citizen, voting and trying to pull my weight. I'm done. Fuck all the alphabet agencies, secret executive orders and fuck the secret courts and the Supremes. Fuck the Congress in particular.

I may not have ever been in a Country while it collapsed but I've lived in enough not so free places and read enough history to know this doesn't turn around.
Funny how States' Rights and Civil War history is being "outlawed" at the same time as all this shit. Funny.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (eKysA)

222 Committees of Correspondence

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (QoSR8)

223 Steiner Jeb will come.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (evdj2)

224 "John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale might want to have a
word with you all about giving up in the face of stiff adversity."

True, but they weren't being betrayed from within and rendered more and more powerless by the very people they thought were their own.


"I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin"

I'd bet I'm more religiously conservative than anyone posting on AoS and I'm not despairing. Humanly disappointed, maybe, but not despairing. I'm just watching events unfold with uncannily predicted precision.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (bGLSw)

225 So is this Reagan's fault?

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (CCNCh)

226 Anyone who continues to serve in the United States military after what has happened these past several years, or allows their kid to serve in the United States military, really looks like a fool right now.

Putting yourself or your child in harms' way to defend a tyrannical left wing dictatorship.

No thanks.

Posted by: crusader at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (tSPir)

227
Gabriel Malor

Next decision day is tomorrow. Still pending: EPA, ACCA, redistricting, lethal injection, and marriage.



Gosh -- wonder what's going to happen!?!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (kdS6q)

228 If reality fails to conform, greater action is licensed, because 'intent.' Whether the law outlines it or not, the court says its allowed because 'intent.'



What is not allowed, is intended.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (JtBPN)

229 I hope my kid will grow to like rice and beans.

He may get a chance to work in the rice fields.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (W5DcG)

230 Ugh, news showing Obama telling off heckler about how to behave "in my house." and the people freakin' cheered while each holding up their dang smartphone videoing the exchange.
#WASTF

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (NOIQH)

231 I served in the Marine Corps for 25 yrs, I believed in America and all that she stood for.

No more....our system is broken and no longer does the rule of law mean anything.

Posted by: Jprs at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (YQ4mh)

232 I just got a call from the Young Republicans. I laughed, said "F you traitors.." The caller said "But Hillary!" I said "Truly at this point what difference does it make?"

Does the GOP leadership have any conscious idea how angry and alienated their base is feeling?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (O7MnT)

233 "The law is an ass."...Dickens

"Kiss my Ass."...Roberts

Posted by: Hulugu at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (VSm85)

234 Can yu now imagine the arrogance of the this Fredo Admin in the months to follow. And especially after they trumped the great Iran Nuclear Treaty in a few weeks with hop along horseface right behind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (wq4B0)

235 I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.
Posted by: ace

Sticking your dick into a revolving prop isn't a virtue.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (Spluw)

236 Putting yourself or your child in harms' way to defend a tyrannical left wing dictatorship.

No thanks.
Posted by: crusader at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (tSPir)

And after defending the left wingers, they'll still spit on you and call you a baby-murdering savage.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (u0lmX)

237 John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale
might want to have a word with you all about giving up in the face of
stiff adversity.



I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.





Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (bhepQ)

Stupid. Giving up on the GOP is not "giving up" on conservatism. It is fools like you who believe we can "change" the GOP by electing one guy, or even a few guys every cycle - that empower the GOP to continue doing what it has always done.
The only way to get the GOP to change is to force it to change. The only way to force it to change is to take away its votes until it does change. Everyone arguing otherwise is simply supporting the status quo.
Your friend Flynn may be a great guy. He may even stay committed to conservatism once elected (I doubt it - experience tells us that principles only remain in less than 1% of elected "conservative" candidates once they are seated). But he is not going to change a thing. Just like Cruz didn't, or DeMint, or Santorum, or any other conservative that got elected in the last 30+ years changed nothing. Hell, even Reagan did not really change anything in the GOP.

Pretending that we must "hope" for the GOP and that if we fail to support the GOP we are "despairing" or "giving up" or "being childish" is nonsense. The only strategic way to change the GOP is to starve it of our votes. the GOP can then decide to either go full fledged and honest after the left vote, competing with the DNC as to who can be the most leftist - or it can move rightward in an effort to win elections.
Any other plan is silly nonsense. It is pissing in the wind.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (3ZtZW)

238 Ok great. So it's secession then.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner


Nope, that's racist.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (/Ho8c)

239 Congress wasted a lot of paper and time debating Obamacare. They should have just written the law as follows:

"We intend to improve healthcare."

Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (gmeXX)

240 Congrats to George Bush. Another shit stain on your legacy. You beat your Dad's great pick of David Souter.

Fuck!

Posted by: Dan in Michigan at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (2yD4G)

241 Gruber's comments are all on tape on how deception was used against the states and American people.

The ends justify the means and the SC is okay with that. SMOD, you're late.

Posted by: Cheri at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (oiNtH)

242 Great, I get to tell my kid he has to pay off $10 Trillion of Obama debt and carry a crushing debt for the remainder of his life while receiving third world medical care.
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or just flee to the third world...

Posted by: Gruber at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (/eTPT)

243 I don't want to come down too hard on Kennedy. He rode the right wave back in 2012. We HAD the win, then. And, Roberts defected.

So, I am more disappointed in, but sadly not surprised by, Roberts more than anyone else.

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (RLFFI)

244 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (/HC6x)

245 I may not have ever been in a Country while it collapsed but I've lived in enough not so free places and read enough history to know this doesn't turn around.

Yup.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (O7MnT)

246 Gabriel Malor
Next decision day is tomorrow. Still pending: EPA, ACCA, redistricting, lethal injection, and marriage.
Gosh -- wonder what's going to happen!?!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (kdS6q)



Spoiler Alert: The Left wins on every issue. That's why you gotta keep voting GOP! Derp-a-derp.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (D5hxK)

247
So, now common human emotions are sins? Fk that shit!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (iQIUe)

248 It gets harder each day.
Posted by: SH at June 25, 2015 10:35 AM (gmeXX)
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Hello Sailor!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (/eTPT)

249 Screw this, I'm done.

There is no rule of law in this country anymore.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Brains for TV) at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (4X5NS)

250 "Collapse the system. Sign up for everything no matter what your income"

Been thinking the Alinsky method might be the better option. Instead of going Galt I'm going full FSA.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (1BQGO)

251 Steiner Jeb will come.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (evdj2)


I lol'd.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 25, 2015 10:39 AM (JO9+V)

252 >>>So, now common human emotions are sins? Fk that shit!

I know right?!?!

Posted by: Lust, Greed, Sloth, etc. at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (bhepQ)

253 Putting yourself or your child in harms' way to defend a tyrannical left wing dictatorship.

No thanks.
Posted by: crusader at June 25, 2015 10:36 AM (tSPir)

And after defending the left wingers, they'll still spit on you and call you a baby-murdering savage.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (u0lmX)

Have not caught the whole thread, but if your talking about being in Uniform, i do it for myself. I hear what your saying but I like being with my Unit better than being around most civilians.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (wq4B0)

254 85 "A fair reading of the legislation demands a fair understanding of the legislative plan."


Sure. They read all 20,000 pages.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (n6jqo)

255 I see that ##%Mitch is blasting TFGCare! Jerk promised a few days before the election to repeal with 51 seat Majority but after election - not a word!!!

Posted by: Carol at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (sj3Ax)

256

f**k it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (qCMvj)

257 So it's only the intent that matters right? Yeah, let's hold Congress to lower standards than we hold elementary school students.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (shFKH)

258
I still think Roberts fell for social justice catholicism.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (iQIUe)

259 "And the people who found a way to pull back and survive"

Everyone should expect the worse and prepare accordingly. This despair and doom? Who really needs it?

Anyone have any tips on non refrigerated food storage to share/ Anyone have a better recipe for black powder than the one I use?

Hows your Garden coming along?

Do something that will help.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (91eZY)

260 Monkeytoe,



you're aware that the US attorneys are going after Reason for their commenters' IPs and such, right?





Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (bhepQ)

Yeah, and they got shot down. So? Are you afraid to fight for what's right? Based on your always coming back around to support the GOP no matter what - I'd say yes. Just like you went silent about Kimberlin. Too much fear in you there is. You are a brave soul fighting the power.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (3ZtZW)

261 "Funny how States' Rights and Civil War history is being "outlawed" at the same time as all this shit. Funny."

Excellent point. The Left is always scared, even when winning. Can't see what they have to be scared about anymore, though.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (s/yC1)

262 Fredo/Robertscare will bankrupt America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (wq4B0)

263 So the next time somebody tells me I absolutely, positively MUST vote Republican because of Supreme Court nominations I'll just beat them to death instead.
Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2015 10:22 AM (sdi6R)

You've pinpointed the real story here. We're no longer bound to the GOPe. So if they, say, orchestrate the nomination of that pudgy, squishy cipher Jeb Bush with a comparative handful of big money donors, then they can't really say there'd be a qualitative difference between a Bush or Clinton administration.

Go-along, get-along Republican moderates are quislings and collaborators. They're Whigs, and if they manage tonominate one of their own as they have in the two previous presidential elections, then I'm no longer a Republican. Enough is fucking enough.

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (S08gh)

264 The MUTHERS on SCOTUS

Posted by: T Heinz-Kerry at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (e8kgV)

265 >>Giving up on the GOP is not "giving up" on conservatism

The GOP gave up on Conservatism in 1988.

Did you listen to the Flynn-LaHood debate last night? LaHood was calling himself a fiscal conservative while his daddy lobbied for high-speed rail subsidies. The GOP uses the word 'conservative' like a whore uses cheap perfume.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (O7MnT)

266 My only (and tiny) satisfaction is that I have not been sullied by affiliation with the useless R party since 2007.

And now I can use the time I used to waste on voting stockpiling canned food.

Posted by: Lurking in the Wilderness at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (hTqVx)

267 Say what you will about Ayn Rand, but the first chapter of AS with the oak tree...

Yeah, that.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (SCcgT)

268 Is anyone surprised? I mean seriously surprised?

This law was not going to be torpedoed over a "technicality" (aka: what a plain english reading of the text says).

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (AkOaV)

269 Sometimes the call of history is more important than the rule of law in America.

Posted by: John Roberts at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (bhepQ)

270 Ugh, news showing Obama telling off heckler about how to behave "in my house." and the people freakin' cheered while each holding up their dang smartphone videoing the exchange.

He doesn't understand its the house of the citizens of the USA or any concept of dignity. Just people that annoy him and those who agree with him.

Does the GOP leadership have any conscious idea how angry and alienated their base is feeling?

I don't think they care either way.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (39g3+)

271 Looks like I picked a great week to start sniffing glue!

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (6xtq3)

272 I love these fucking Republican candidates talking about securing the border. A little fucking late for that, don't you think?

Posted by: Foul Mouthed HAL 9000 at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (VcOqI)

273
David M. Drucker

Now, Repubs can run cleanly against #Obamacare in 16 w/ plans to repeal/replace or "just start over get reform right" - their other mssg



Well, let me just get out my checkbook and write that RNC donation now..

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

274 Clean up requested.



Drunken retard barfing all over the place-



Aisle 107.







Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2015 10:31 AM (0cMkb)

Why?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition greatest thing since before sliced bread at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (R8hU8)

275 You can go Galt and alinski at the same time. No need to choose one or the other.

Do anything that will increase the burden on the gub'mint. Face it, it is here to stay until it dies of hunger.

Anyway to make it hungrier is good.

No shame!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (91eZY)

276 The answer is simple....you guys play by the "rules", you have "morals" and "fair play". You use "common sense" and seek "liberty". We have and are none of those things and that's why we win all the time. Where is Boehner? Someone get Boehner! It's time to toss my salad....

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (D0NZx)

277 Not a surprise at all.

I'm leaving as soon as I can.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (oFCZn)

278 Words don't have a clear meaning to the court system. They have a political goal and find a way to distort the clear meaning to get there. I often say only a lawyer could say 'shall' means maybe.

"Roberts, Kennedy and the four liberal justices" this is disturbingto many of us because, well, liberal is a political word and the court should be straight up following the letter of the law because Congress is charged with writing the law.

This should have been turned back to Congress to fix it, PERIOD. There seems to be little the Courts don't feel the need to put their stamp on. Over stepping their place in the Constitution with Obama doing the same. One thing in common they are liberal. You can't win when your side has rules and the other doesn't.

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (wkuqO)

279 "Can we have an Article V convention now?"

I look at the people of this country, and I see an Article V convention enshrining gay "marriage" and Obamacare into the revised Constitution, along with "disparate impact", affirmative action, racial set-asides, and every other evil we can imagine.

The majority of Americans are not conservative. They ARE the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: despair at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (J6suc)

280 People cant afford it or cant afford to use it. What it will do is kill more people off which is what they really want to do. They never factor in that even if you are eligible for subsidies you have to find a doctor who will take you and is in your area.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (iQIUe)

281 The Left is always scared, even when winning. Can't see what they have to be scared about anymore, though.

If they don't point at outside boogey-men their internal contradictions will tear them apart.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (oVJmc)

282 Well, Jonathan Gruber was right about some people being stupid, just not the voters - Congress, SCOTUS, all those rubes who thought it was now going to be free (just like food stamps and Obamaphonze!!!!).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:43 AM (NOIQH)

283 I never expected the SC would overturn federal subsidies for over eight million people based on one sentence in the Statute. We lost any chance to overturn Obamacare by the court on the first go around. That argument was sound and no question was in violation of the Constitution. Roberts can go down in history as almost as responsible destroying the Country as Obama.

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (CCNCh)

284 Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:40 AM (3ZtZW)

Dude, chill.

Seriously.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV)

285 Somebody tell me again how Mike Flynn is going to Make A Difference.

Posted by: RLTW at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (mJLvJ)

286 So they chose to hew to some fictitious "legislative plan" rather than enforcing the actual words in the legislation (that our betters at the time actually SAID were written to "encourage" states to form their own exchanges by denying their citizens subsidies if they didn't). Suckers of cock, every last one of them.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (OrI3J)

287 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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Was it over when the French nuked Nagasaki?

Posted by: Bluto Gruber at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (/eTPT)

288 Ahhhh. The 'intent' of the 2nd amendment was 'shall not be infringed' actually meant, 'at the discretion of the powerful in government'.

Posted by: RedDish at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (5eXg1)

289 Article 5 Convention is our only hope.

That should be clear to all now.

Posted by: MTF at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (LISuA)

290 FUCK.

Well.

This just means the collapse will come faster.

Onward!

Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (FA3Z7)

291 I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (lKSyl)

292 Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:37 AM (NOIQH)

The people want a king. Bu you know, kings can have class. Pretty sure Queen Elizabeth would never say anything like that.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (shFKH)

293
This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life




If you see a silver lining, pray point it out.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:45 AM (kdS6q)

294 Woah. He Who Shall not be Named was just named in a comment.

I sense a banhammer on the horizon.



Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:45 AM (7ObY1)

295 Say what you will about Ayn Rand, but the first chapter of AS with the oak tree...

Yeah, if she'd stuck to that kind of clarity and focus, it would have been a far better book. She took 1200 pages to tell a 500 page story.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:45 AM (39g3+)

296 Is this one party rule?

Posted by: Game Set Match at June 25, 2015 10:45 AM (VcOqI)

297 Grubering is now official US law.

The US Supreme Grubers

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (oSA0W)

298 Posted by: Velvet Ambition greatest thing since before sliced bread at June 25, 2015 10:42 AM (R8hU

because some of us enjoy hanging out here and don't want this place ruined like the court system is / was trying to do with reason.

the proprietor gives us a lot of leeway. if we lose that, this place becomes another tepidair, just with an angry ewok in charge instead of a RINO bald man.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (AkOaV)

299
John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale might want to
have a word with you all about giving up in the face of stiff adversity.


Captain Edward Smith might want to talk to you about going down with the ship.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (oVJmc)

300 Anybody who votes for the GOP is a chump.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (JKoPF)

301 And the GOP is happy about it, make no mistake.

Posted by: Lauren at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (MYCIw)

302 Anybody who votes for the GOP is a chump.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (JKoPF)

303 I suppose it'll not be considered at all relevant that Marbury/Madison's been a lynchpin of this republic almost from the beginning. To find in favor of the challengers' position here would be not just to find AS A MATTER OF BLACK LETTER LAW that the Moops DID conquer Spain, but that the Civil War, our participation in the 2 World Wars, the War of 1812, the Spanish American War, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf the First: First We Take Back Kuwait, Gulf the Second: Then We Take Iraq, the Fed, all the federal domestic programs the SCOTUS has upheld since the Great Crash I in October 1929, ALL that stuff, was but illusion.

Posted by: Wax the Jungle Hog at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (lqeGC)

304 So by SCOTUS logic, when they said they sided with the government, what they really said is they side with the plaintiff because words don't really mean anything anymore and I don't want it to say that, which we know is the real test.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (t06LC)

305 I love the fucking GOPe, and the GOPe loves fucking me.

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (AZ1HA)

306 I suspect Gabe is stocking up for the mother of all celebrations. His sneering at we troglodyte breeders should be epic.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (zF6Iw)

He'll probably post here tomorrow.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:26 AM (shFKH)


It will be entertaining - in a dark way - to watch his mental gymnastics or faux-baffled "how could I have forseen this?" puzzlement when a YayGay! SCOTUS ruling leads to demands for polygamous and incestuous "marriages."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (zF6Iw)

307 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:45 AM (39g3+)

Yes. Great book, but she shouldn't have written it as if she was getting paid per word.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (AkOaV)

308 Thanks for nothing Bush!

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (59qrX)

309 Meh.

Our GOP leadership had already admitted they were going to save Obamacare no matter what the court ruled.

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That's right. This way we can delude ourselves with the thought that maybe Bitch Boner would have saved us.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (lKSyl)

310 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

What we s'posed to do now, ya mo-rons??

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (39g3+)

311 Dude, chill.

Seriously.



Yeah. His valid point is diminished by his over-caffeinate rant against our host.


As Tim notes above, our only recourse is to withdraw our consent. Do not voluntarily render unto Caesar. Make them work for every cent of your money.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (evdj2)

312 The Republic is dead.

Long live the king.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (b2cFu)

313 >>>I suspect Gabe is stocking up for the mother of all celebrations.

His sneering at we troglodyte breeders should be epic.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:23 AM (zF6Iw)


...

stop it, gabe was on the side of knocking the subsidies down

don't just start picking out targets to vent at based on their proximity to you.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (bhepQ)

314
Tammy Bruce
Today's SCOTUS decision on #obamacare reinforces to every conservative the imperative of taking the WH in 2016.



Tammy, luv ya like a girlfriend who's up for a tequila three-way, but you're so wrong.




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (kdS6q)

315 Hey look on the bright side, NONE of this will matter when Iran gets the Bomb

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (wq4B0)

316 Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 10:46 AM (t06LC)

I believe it was a SCOTUS justice who memorialized the infamous judicial words, "words have meanings."

Which, uh, no longer is the case.

But to be fair, hasn't been for a while.

Read the decision in Griswold v Connecticut sometime if you want to see some REAL pretzel logic.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (AkOaV)

317 285 Somebody tell me again how Mike Flynn is going to Make A Difference.


I doubt he's really different, honestly. Anybody in the GOP is not trustworthy. Why is he still in it if he hates the leadership as much as we do?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (JKoPF)

318 Oh.

Joy.

More fresh hell.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (eEb+d)

319 ACA POS needs total repeal....and then SCOTUS would rule repeal unconstitutional.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (59qrX)

320 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky
reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl
Harbor.


I've got some experience making floats.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (ZKzrr)

321 I don't know when I've ever felt so deeply alienated from my own country.

Posted by: Fred at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (Jcvz2)

322 I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (sH832)

323 I fucking told you so, bitches.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (MYCIw)

324 Posted by: MTF at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (LISuA

An Article V convention would only be for show since you would need 2/3 of the States to ratify anything. We have about only 3/5 at the most that would ratify.

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (CCNCh)

325 From the Dissent:

"We should start calling this law SCOTUScare."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (fwARV)

326 Truth be told, the only question in my mind was whether it would be the SC or the congress that would cave on the issue.
i was rooting for it to be congress as that had the potential to be a bit more fun.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (/eTPT)

327 I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto.
Posted by: The Great White Snark

What a coincidence; neither am I! And yet you assholes banded together and kept me here in DC!!

idiots.

Posted by: Sen Moran (GOPe-DC) and Kansas, a long, long time ago at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (Spluw)

328 I don't know when I've ever felt so deeply alienated from my own country.
Posted by: Fred at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (Jcvz2)

Wait until tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (wq4B0)

329
Our GOP leadership had already admitted they were going to save Obamacare no matter what the court ruled.



But -- they said that was so the justices would feel comfortable in revering it. They said that. I took notes!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (kdS6q)

330 Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (evdj2)

what if they don't give a shit about our consent? (which they clearly dont).

They have the power, the money, the influence, and the guns.

We got nothing, bud.

Which is why I'm ... not getting too upset about this stuff. It is what it is, it's out of my hands.

For the believers among us, it's gods plan.

For those of us who are heathen atheists, well... it is what it is. Can't let it ruin your day.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:49 AM (AkOaV)

331 But the "intent" was to incentivize the states to establish exchanges, so the words matched intent.

The SCOTUS has imposed its own "intent" into reading the law.

That was the problem with Gruber but apparently it doesn't matter, because "squirrel!"

Posted by: hmitchell3rd at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (3YCXd)

332 Roberts, like Obama, has a PEN and can use it to change law when he needs to:

"In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent stat phrase"

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (yj/Rg)

333 So "I meant to do that, LOLWUT" is now the law of the land?

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (DL2i+)

334 As Kevin Williamson says, "We are ruled by criminals."

Criminals don't have any respect for the rule of law, and when criminals get to make and interpret rules, compunction about limiting their own power is the last thing on their minds.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (noWW6)

335 It's time to withdraw from politics. Participating when you won't be heard is just masochism. They have shut their ears to us. Pull back, prepare, preserve the good things about America for the next generation. I'm going to concentrate on work and home for a while.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (RD7QR)

336 Does the GOP leadership have any conscious idea how angry and alienated their base is feeling?

I don't think they care either way.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor



^^^^^
This!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (Yf6eY)

337 That's great, this is really fuckin' great, man. Now, what the fuck are we supposed to do? We're in some pretty shit now, man.

That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over! What the fuck are we supposed to now, huh, what are we gonna do?

Posted by: Count de Hudson at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (JO9+V)

338 I can't wait.

Posted by: Hildabeast at June 25, 2015 10:50 AM (59qrX)

339 you're aware that the US attorneys are going after Reason for their commenters' IPs and such, right?

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (bhepQ)


Absolutely, puts the fear of government in us all doesn't it?

Free speech or fear it will go one way or the other.

Most of us are pretty careful, because we don't want to pay for your defense. LOL

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (wkuqO)

340 Dude, chill.



Seriously.





Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV)

What have I said that isn't accurate or defensible?
Are you now like the left - to PC to hear truth?

this is why conservatives can't win - weak sisters like you.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (3ZtZW)

341 Congress will not save you.
SCOTUS will not save you.
No President will save you.

Getting the picture yet, folks?

The coup is complete.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (2l5vw)

342 Roberts original ruling was knotted and twisted more than a gold necklace chain..... I hope I live long enough to know what Obama has on him.....has to be something big.

Posted by: dixigal at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (+04aH)

343 Meanings don't even have meanings these days.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (eEb+d)

344 'When I use a word', Humpty dumpty said, in rather a
scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more
nor less.'

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at June 25, 2015 10:28 AM


That's what you call an Outmoded Concept.

I mean, who the hell even needs words? Congress is busy dumping ChoomTrade on our laps, and most of the slimy sonsabitches don't know what the America-hating treasonous fuckwits who initiated it want.

From now on, all we need is for the Mocha Messiah to tell us what he wants, and it shall be done.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (P8YHq)

345 Hey look on the bright side, NONE of this will matter when Iran gets the Bomb
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:47 AM (wq4B0)

To be sure, the prospect of fairly imminent annihilation does clarify the mind and simplify the issues.

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (S08gh)

346 backwards boy, yup!

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (bhepQ)

347 Thank GOD we all held our noses to vote for the GOPe who would nominate good judges or keep bad judges from being confirmed.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (eytER)

348 "Hate crime legislation was passed to protect blacks from whites, not to protect whites from blacks."

Coming soon from a SCOTUS near you.

From the Majority: "Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (fwARV)

349 Dovetailing it all together, I think in the last few days I've had a lot more sympathy for the confederacy than I otherwise would mostly because I feel like in many (but not one major) aspects I basically agree with them.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (t06LC)

350 Remember when this blog used to wax poetic about Chris Christie? Vote REPUB you idiot purists they said.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (COpZ4)

351 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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amount to contribute to the GOP
ZERO POINT ZERO

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (/eTPT)

352 I guess its a good thing that we have a court that can understand the incoherence of Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (oDCMR)

353 I mean, who the hell even needs words?

I actually would not be surprised if the SSM opinion is issued in emoji.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)

354 There goes my 2nd to last reason to vote republican - supreme court nominees.

My last reason - 2nd amendment. We'll need guns to protect our families when our economic system collapses, as it surely will with this over-spending and out of control entitlements. Only question: will we be Greece or Venezuela?

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (yj/Rg)

355 For the first time in my life I am excited about the next fund raising call that comes from the RNC. When they ask for the donation, I am going to ask for a refund. And I will demand it and suggest others here us the same tactic.

Posted by: booter at June 25, 2015 10:52 AM (Lg1F3)

356 "If you see a silver lining, pray point it out."

It can't go on forever?

One step closer to the end times?

One day this will just be a footnote in the history books?

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (gTEMl)

357 258

I think Roberts fell under the spell of big, overpriced billable hours law. When most of your clients are corporations, you go out your way to please them.

Posted by: Wendy at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (KydDZ)

358 The GOPe would prefer us conservative / libertarian types fuck off.

In their dream world, we're replaced by Latinos or "moderates" or whoever. As long as they don't pay attention and don't bother them too much, but still show up to vote for them every 2 years.

They'll even reward that behavior by giving them free shit and bringing home pork.

We're just big party fouls to them. Ruining their day with our blahblahblah nonsense about constitutions and laws and all that noise.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (AkOaV)

359
this is why conservatives can't win - weak sisters like you.

Dude, you are aware that our host has been sued by a guy you've been asked not to name?

And he reminded you that Reason was subpoenaed for commenters' IPs?

Just behave, please.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (JtwS4)

360 Now, every state that IS PAYING for Obamacare can eliminate its state subsidies because the FEDERAL government will pay.

So, NO state needs to pay ANYTHING for Obamacare. It is now fully funded by the Feds, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WAS INTENDED WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (4AVeu)

361 It will be entertaining - in a dark way - to watch his mental gymnastics
or faux-baffled "how could I have forseen this?" puzzlement when a
YayGay! SCOTUS ruling leads to demands for polygamous and incestuous
"marriages."


No, the next demand will be for legalized pedophilia.

Posted by: Null at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (xjpRj)

362 We got nothing, bud.


We've got money, make them work for it.

The tax system work by voluntary compliance. Stop being a "good citizen".


you're aware that the US attorneys are going after Reason for their commenters' IPs and such, right?

Retention is not mandated. Ask Pixy to purge his logs every 48 hours.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (evdj2)

363 349 Dovetailing it all together, I think in the last few days I've had a lot more sympathy for the confederacy than I otherwise would mostly because I feel like in many (but not one major) aspects I basically agree with them.

Enjoy your slavery comrade.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (oDCMR)

364
Reince Priebus 41 minutes ago

Republicans Go On #Obamacare Offensive: A Reckless Law:



Ahhhh. Hate you so much!!!

*pounds desk*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (kdS6q)

365 It's worth pointing out (for those not watching FBN right now): Hospital and Health Insurer stocks have jumped in an almost across the board increase of 10% or so.

Big money going to big companies, as Scalia calls it, SCOTUScare continues.

Posted by: Marashir at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (sFu4P)

366 We all knew Boehner and McConnell were going to extend the subsidies anyway, but it still sucks to know SCOTUS doesn't support the rule of law.

Posted by: DRayRaven at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (9YRwm)

367 ace, could even a sweep of Flynn clones in the next election undo the damage of the last 6 years? Or have we so twisted and distorted the Constitution from what the Framers actually wrote and meant that we will need to start over completely?

Even if our Flynn clone army can fix it, how long will it take? 2 generations? 3?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (b2cFu)

368 It's judges you idiots! Judges!

Posted by: The GOP cheerleaders, 2012 at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (JKoPF)

369 Well all is not lost here. McConnell and Boehner will write legislation and strong arm O into repealing it.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (59qrX)

370 This thread is starting to look like Delta House right before Blutosky reminded everyone that it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
---
Senator Blutarsky was a RINO too

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (/eTPT)

371 Boy, the next president has carte blanche, he'll basically be a dictator.

He can just institute a flat tax by saying the current tax code is a drafting error.

Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (bv/SG)

372
Non-Breaking News: The Republic is fucked.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (ODxAs)

373 John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale might want to have a word with you all about giving up in the face of stiff adversity.
I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:32 AM (bhepQ)


Jones, Washington and Hale (well, not so much Hale) also took up arms against the (now laughably benign) British "tyranny." We, being cautioned against such remedies, have only a worthless, compromised and watered-down vote.

**shrugs**

I'm beyond despair. I've given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (zF6Iw)

374 Barack, when's our tee time?

Posted by: John Boehner at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (VcOqI)

375 Why should we assume that GWB didn't know Roberts was a closet progressive?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (O7MnT)

376 Just behave, please.


He's flinging the same monkey poo over at Tepid Gas.

Posted by: Citizen X at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (7ObY1)

377 "In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent stat phrase"

The Bill of Rights? Usually taken totally out of context.

Posted by: The Supreme Rulers at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (eKysA)

378 Roberts original ruling was knotted and twisted more than a gold necklace chain..... I hope I live long enough to know what Obama has on him.....has to be something big.


Illegal Irish adoptions.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (Yf6eY)

379

Not even close.

Hey, but we saved the raisins...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (qCMvj)

380 Ace, Gabe can be pretty obnoxious and passive aggressive about the SSM issue (and some others), although that could be a reaction to perceived hostility, and then commenters react to him, and the cycle goes on and on.

He's very good, IMO, on other things though.

(And I like him on the podcast.)

I do think he'll have a SSM victory post here tomorrow just to rub it in.

Which is whatever. Your house.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (shFKH)

381 Next up is gay marriage.

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So spread your ass cheeks.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (lKSyl)

382 "For the believers among us, it's gods plan.


For those of us who are heathen atheists, well... it is what it is. Can't let it ruin your day."

Just a thought...you should seriously reconsider your paradigm. I hope you'll forgive me here but your existing worldview has no explanation for what's occurring save some evolutionary process...survival of the strongest through means of betrayal. Paint a coat of moral evil on top of it if you like but that's it. Period, end of story, turn the page.

A few others here, myself included, have a paradigm which explains in perfect detail why all this must take place and, more importantly, what most of us here will live to see established. That lends us calm.

But like I said...just a thought.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (bGLSw)

383 I think Roberts fell under the spell of big, overpriced billable hours law. When most of your clients are corporations, you go out your way to please them.

He probably raped a high school boy like 99% of the GOP leadership and the Dems have proof.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (JKoPF)

384 I wanna high-five Roberts. With a chair. In his face.

Posted by: Harley Quinn at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (CpsRI)

385 I, for one, welcome our new Soviet state. Long may the hammer and sickle, non-slave-owning-just-slave-making banner wave.

Posted by: Sphynx at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (OZmbA)

386 188
>>>Should we still vote for that Flynn guy?



>>>>God bless Ace for supporting his friend but this ship is dead in the water.



John Paul Jones, George Washington, and Nathan Hale might want to
have a word with you all about giving up in the face of stiff adversity.



I don't know much about religion but I know despair is a sin.

============
Which is true.

But: It doesn't change the facts, does it?

Where is the pathway to more freedom, more liberty, more prosperity?

It doesn't lie in voting anymore, does it?

Refusing to vote is not giving up. No more than refusing to send another letter to King George was "giving up."

I keep saying this and saying this: There is only one possible brake on the federal government now. The only one left is the states.

The states have to stand up for their citizens.

But: Every state legislator dreams of one day getting called up to the big leagues.

So really, not one fucking thing is going to change until a state legislator(s) starts talking about "no, we will not comply. We will not make the citizens of _____ subject to this tyranny."

We are, ladies and gentlemen, at a crossroads: Either we are subjects or we are citizens.

If the former, do nothing.

If the latter: war.

Don't try to soften the blow, don't delude yourself with thoughts of a process solution, don't think there is anything but the extreme political solution left.

Or be a subject.

But don't try and tell me you haven't made the choice to be a servant, a slave, a subject.

You have. You just want me to agree with you self-betrayal.



Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (ZvKdv)

387 today is George Orwell's birthday https://twitter.com/parisreview/status/614083665463779328

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (bhepQ)

388 The only strategic way to change the GOP is to starve it of our votes. the GOP can then decide to either go full fledged and honest after the left vote, competing with the DNC as to who can be the most leftist - or it can move rightward in an effort to win elections.
Any other plan is silly nonsense. It is pissing in the wind.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:38 AM (3ZtZW)
------------------------------
Yeah, at this point I think this is correct. Fuckers have betrayed me too many times at this point.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (6qR/9)

389 The truth is that the Republicans were already planning on saving Obamacare anyway.

This gets them off the hook electorally - big time.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (BZAd3)

390

Alcohol sales go through the roof.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (qCMvj)

391
I'm going to be sick...hold me, Ace.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (iQIUe)

392
Well, it's better that we understand the game we're really playing. And who's on what team.

Information is power. Its going to be harder to fool us in the future.

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (yj/Rg)

393 Why should we assume that GWB didn't know Roberts was a closet progressive?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale

Then how do you explain Alito?

I think Bush was a worthless conservative but I honestly don't think he tried to put a liberal on the Court

Same with Reagan and Kennedy

I think unfortunately this is how judges operate, they seem to always drift left

Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (bv/SG)

394 Wabbit season!
Judge season!
Wabbit season!
Judge season!
Wabbit season!
Wabbit season!
Judge...


Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 25, 2015 10:56 AM (sH832)

395
Reince Priebus 41 minutes ago

Republicans Go On #Obamacare Offensive: A Reckless Law:


Uh, they've been on an #Obamacare DE-fensive, Priebus, you crooked fuck.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (oVJmc)

396 >>It will be entertaining - in a dark way - to watch his mental gymnastics
or faux-baffled "how could I have forseen this?" puzzlement when a
YayGay! SCOTUS ruling leads to demands for polygamous and incestuous
"marriages."


And the outright destruction of churches that refuse gay clergy, performing a SSM ceremony, etc. That's crazy talk, amiright? (uh, no, look what's already happened in the UK).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (NOIQH)

397 I give up. I just effing give up.

Wake me when the shooting starts. Maybe after that we can have a dose of sanity.

Until then, we can all enjoy our accelerating descent into oblivion.

Posted by: Jaws at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (Jktp1)

398 Are you now like the left - to PC to hear truth?

this is why conservatives can't win - weak sisters like you.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 25, 2015 10:51 AM (3ZtZW)

Okay, fine, I'm a "weak sister."

I'm also not an idiot.

Maybe infowars is okay with that kind of talk in their comments, but it really is not productive and makes us all look like kooks, and opens this place up to law suits, OH and more importantly for US, opens all of us up to being doxed by the government if anyone of importance notices this wretched hive of scum and villainy that we call the aoshq comments.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (AkOaV)

399 I'm proud to be an Italian-American today. Scalia and Alito are the real deal.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (WFNgq)

400 "In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent stat phrase"

-
That's sounds so much better and smarter than "Eat suck, suckface!"

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (lKSyl)

401 It's sure a good thing we didn't get that idiot Harriet Miers, huh? Really dodged a bullet there/sarc

Posted by: Lauren at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (MYCIw)

402 well, this used to be a great country...

at least i don't have any kids to worry about.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (pZtrP)

403 Then how do you explain Alito?

Bush wanted unknown quantity Harriet Miers.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (JKoPF)

404
After the National Divorce, the constitution of the new red state nation needs to include term limits for SCOTUS judges.

Posted by: Jon at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (HA+/6)

405 By 2017 we will be 20 Trillion on debt adding more like a snowball rolling downhill.... and that doesn't include 100 Trillion or more in unfunded liabilities. Yeah, I am not too worried about Obamacare because by 2020 we will be livin' in a Mad Max World.

Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (fLKzW)

406 Did you ever need more reasons for voting GOP?

Vote GOP for the justices!



Sarc - in case you missed it.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (BZAd3)

407 Some of you know I work at a radio station. Part of my job is producing the station IDs you hear between songs. Today, I was supposed to start work on the IDs
for the Independence Day holiday weekend. I'm listening to the usual stuff...cheering for freedom, and how America is the greatest country on earth.

I wish I could substitute the truth...that our freedom slips away a little more every day, and that what was once the greatest nation has become just another socialist piece of "meh".

But I'm a coward. I have to eat. I have medication I must buy to keep myself alive. However, I'm not sure I want to stay alive to see what the USA will turn into.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Brains for TV) at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (4X5NS)

408 It's ok to disagree with the host. Insulting him? Not so great.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (shFKH)

409

The SC is sinking the country, not just illegally, but financially. Obamacare is a financial disaster of epic proportions. And the left cheer it on. What dopes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (qCMvj)

410 Good luck paying for that Obamacare when the TPP hands your job over to an H1-B1 worker fresh off the boat, liberals!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (oFCZn)

411 "If you see a silver lining, pray point it out."
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hot conservative women needing consolation oral sex?

who am i kidding, that'd be a gold lining

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (/eTPT)

412 >>Republicans Go On #Obamacare Offensive: A Reckless Law:


So, are we now pretending that the GOPe readying legislation to *maintain* Obamacare subsidies should SCOTUS have ruled the other way was a super-sekrit Jedi-mindtrick-headfake????

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (NOIQH)

413 385 I, for one, welcome our new Soviet state. Long may the hammer and sickle, non-slave-owning-just-slave-making banner wave.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (OZmbA)

Gutfeld made fun of Rush for saying they were coming for the US flag next.

Well, Drudge headline says they already are.

Slowly at first then all at once

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (wkuqO)

414 Big win for the "Let it Burn" crowd

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (t06LC)

415 The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (UypUQ)

416 I'd rather be paying health insurance than a mortgage anyway. Because that's how much we're paying now.

Our insurance has gone up 100% since 2010. And it doesn't cover anything near what it used to. But, if we had kids we'd have pediatric eye care, and isn't that what it's all about? The Children?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (sH832)

417 I was reading a website where people are looking for suicide partners. Not sure why one would need a partner but I noticeds they all want photos and descriptions. lol I guess it is a suicide hook up dating site.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (iQIUe)

418 What a fucking joke.

Posted by: Garrett at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (M5DBf)

419 Uh, they've been on an #Obamacare DE-fensive, Priebus, you crooked fuck.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 10:57 AM (oVJmc)

Priebus would have more credibility with me if he didn't look like Liberace on estrogen.

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2015 11:00 AM (S08gh)

420 Maybe it's time to change the way the Supreme Court works. Instead of judicial review, maybe the court could pre-approve laws. Or better, they could help draft the laws. *

*Based on Roberts' affirmation.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 25, 2015 11:00 AM (BZAd3)

421 Then how do you explain Alito?

Bush wanted unknown quantity Harriet Miers.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

Still, if you're going to go with the whole "Republicans want to stack court with liberals" why not appoint two liberals instead of just one?

I think he was duped like Reagan was with Kennedy and Bush 1 was with Souter.

I would say 99.9% of conservatives were wholeheartedly behind Roberts nomination

Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 11:00 AM (bv/SG)

422 "Roberts original ruling was knotted and twisted more than a gold
necklace chain..... I hope I live long enough to know what Obama has on
him.....has to be something big."

The Roberts children are adopted. The kids are from Ireland.

It was facially illegal under Irish law for the Robertses to travel to Ireland, and adopt the kids, and take the kids back to the States. So the Robertses paid the birth mothers to travel out of Ireland to a third country, and adopted there, and took the kids back to the States. That moved the transaction from "facially illegal" to "questionably legal".

You have to wonder if Roberts received a late night visit from some people who had some things to say regarding this bit of business.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 11:00 AM (noWW6)

423 President Obama will deliver a statement 11:30 am ET on the Supreme Court ruling today which upheld the Obamacare law.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (gTfX/)

424 Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 10:55 AM (bGLSw)

My thought process is as follows:

There's literally nothing you can do about what happens in DC.

Protests, phone calls, emails, voting, donating, etc. doesn't seem to make a difference.

So why not follow the Christian serenity prayers advice,

"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (AkOaV)

425 Gotta knock off the leadership. Gotta knock off the leadership.

I'm a bit more distressed by the 'disparate impact' case than I am the Obamacare thing, 'cause we knew Chinless and Orange would roll over and pee themselves like a new puppy at the chance to throw more money in the Obamacare bucket without getting a damn thing for it.


Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (o+SC1)

426 415 The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.


Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (UypUQ)


Which is funny, because the way things are going I only gave the union another 8 years or so...

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (t06LC)

427 Gutfeld made fun of Rush for saying they were coming for the US flag next.


Farrakhan has already called for the US flag to be banned. Because more hate has been directed towards blacks under those colors than under the confederate flag.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (fwARV)

428 375 Why should we assume that GWB didn't know Roberts was a closet progressive?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM (O7MnT)

Don't rewrite history. Roberts was fully recommended and supported by the conservative faction of the GOP. I don't fault them or anyone for not seeing how Roberts turned out. He's a lawyer after all .

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (CCNCh)

429 The Supreme Court has ruled that Gruber was correct, re. the stupidity of the American People.

Posted by: steve at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (tNSR3)

430 "Jones, Washington and Hale (well, not so much Hale) also took up arms against the (now laughably benign) British "tyranny."

Yes. King George was nothing next to what we're up against. It is not only the size and power of the monolith we face but its psychological reach across the culture, both its aggressive agenda and how it unites and swarms against the slightest resistance.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (s/yC1)

431 Can we finally ramp up production now???

Posted by: Torch and Pitchfork Industry Association at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (kFxpe)

432 Supreme Court affirms Obama's right to appoint his horse as Senator...

Posted by: jim at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (VwhRo)

433 407 Some of you know I work at a radio station. Part of my job is producing the station IDs you hear between songs. Today, I was supposed to start work on the IDs for the Independence Day holiday weekend. I'm listening to the usual stuff...cheering for freedom, and how America is the greatest country on earth. I wish I could substitute the truth...that our freedom slips away a little more every day, and that what was once the greatest nation has become just another socialist piece of "meh". But I'm a coward. I have to eat. I have medication I must buy to keep myself alive. However, I'm not sure I want to stay alive to see what the USA will turn into.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Brains for TV) at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (4X5NS)





Some years ago I actually heard a DJ on the local "Alternative Rock" station introduce a "Rage Against The Machine" song by pointing out that the band were a bunchof cop-killing sympathizers and "poser phonies". Sadly, that guy didn't last long on the air either.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (GsebS)

434 I was waiting to see how this outcome went, now I'm really looking into one of those health care Ministry/sharing programs that ObamaCare allowed as a carve out.

I own my own business, and there's just no way I'm going to shovel like $1,200 a month for an insurance policy with a $5,000 deductible for the next 30 years

Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (bv/SG)

435

obama's SCOTUS...

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (9Mqkr)

436 We will set up single payer medical offices which will also perform gay marriages.

Posted by: SCROTUS at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (W5DcG)

437 >>423 President Obama will deliver a statement 11:30 am ET on the Supreme Court ruling today which upheld the Obamacare law.



The Shucking and Jiving will continue until Morale improves.

Posted by: Garrett at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (M5DBf)

438 429 The Supreme Court has ruled that Gruber was correct, re. the stupidity of the American People.
Posted by: steve at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (tNSR3)

And we have a winner. Wind up the thread, please.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (RD7QR)

439 Farrakhan has already called for the US flag to be banned. Because more
hate has been directed towards blacks under those colors than under the
confederate flag.


I didn't know Gutfeld went after Rush on that - he should f*ing know better. I thought that wasn't a particularly prescient thought on Rush's part - rather an obvious next step.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 25, 2015 11:03 AM (sH832)

440 What is the point of swearing an oath to a document that no longer means anything? Why not swear to a puppy dog or naked girl; 'Oh God, stop licking yourself' or 'Oh God keep licking'. It clearly would have more real world truth than what we have now. Raise the black flag and start slitting throats.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:03 AM (oDCMR)

441 Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 25, 2015 10:58 AM (shFKH)

I don't think ace wades in to the comments enough to see / know / care if people insult him.

But insulting ace, all the cobs, and 90% of the follow commenters is just... classless and unnecessary.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:03 AM (AkOaV)

442 The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.

Of course not. That's how this was designed to work. Gruber and others said very obviously that's the plan: to create a system that destroys private insurance and thus requires government takeover of all health insurance.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:03 AM (39g3+)

443 I'm really getting tired of the day to day keeping score of political wins and losses and I'm not looking forward to media coverage of the upcoming election. I know Obama is going to take a victory lap and gloat because of this ruling and I'm trying really hard not to give a shit.
I'm 53, still in good shape, and I want to live out my days being stupid and dumb and shallow and not really giving a shit. We Lost.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2015 11:03 AM (WFNgq)

444 Disappointed, not surprised.

Roberts is the political twin of GW Bush.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (zOWjo)

445 437 >>423 President Obama will deliver a statement 11:30 am ET on the Supreme Court ruling today which upheld the Obamacare law.



The Shucking and Jiving will continue until Morale improves.
Posted by: Garrett at June 25, 2015 11:02 AM (M5DBf)

More in-your-face trash talk. Has there ever been a POTUS with less dignity than this clown?

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

446 Your first mistake is "survival of the strongest" That is not correct. It is "survival of most able to adapt"

Play the system against itself while working to become independent of the system.

Example? Underground economy. Start looking for it. It exists in your area.

Got something to trade? Do it. No sales tax to the beast. Know a Doctor?
You would be surprised what you can get for cash upfront.

Starve the system.

Have no shame doing it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (wQ7l/)

447 Okay, interrupted by a meeting during composition, but PRL Incoming. Those so inclined should move to bunkers now.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (kff5f)

448 "Big win for the "Let it Burn" crowd"

It will. Just not at the hand of man. All man is doing is stacking gas-soaked kindling around what he's convinced is the beginning of Utopia.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (bGLSw)

449 I would say 99.9% of conservatives were wholeheartedly behind Roberts nomination


Posted by: Kal at June 25, 2015 11:00 AM (bv/SG)

Roberts and Alito were picked precisely because Bush thought they would side with the government on the War on Terror stuff more often than not. Its probably a surprise Alito doesn't side with the government more, given their propensity for government deference.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (t06LC)

450 I've been MAD~~ ANGRY for a long time now, but today things changed to AFRAID. I'm now terribly afraid.

Posted by: Disgusted at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (59jdD)

451
Thank you George Cocksucking Bush for losing Congress in 2006 and then assuring the win for obama in 2008.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (9Mqkr)

452 434
I own my own business, and there's just no way I'm going to shovel like $1,200 a month for an insurance policy with a $5,000 deductible for the next 30 years

You will soon look back on this as the 'good times'.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (oDCMR)

453 Ok, so can we now start seriously considering an Article V Convention of the States?

A remedy for what the court is doing is an amendment to the Constitution that allows SCOTUS cases to be overturned by a majority of the States. Remember, we are in control of a huge number of State legislatures so this ruling would have been dead in the water.

All fears aside, this is the only Constitutional option we have left.

Posted by: Arson Wells at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (UnJ7w)

454 Words mean nothing.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (+ttLq)

455 Dear Justices of the Supreme Court, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Mitch McConnel, and all other Federal Officials.

Fuck. You.

Fuck you up the fucking fuck holes you motherfucking motherfuckers. May you be fucked to hell with a pineapple wrapped in rusty barbed wire, and then fucked back again. God damn you to motherfucking Hell you God damned tyrants.

You do not have the God-damned fucking right to my labor. You have no right to what someone else must produce or provide. That means there is NO MOTHERFUCKING RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE YOU GOD DAMNED IMBICILES.

The Constitution provides no authority for the Federal Government to weigh in on Health Care matters in the first place.

Nevertheless, you, there in your ivory palaces decided that you knew better than God when He made man, and that he'd forgotten that Right To Enslave Others -for that is exactly what a right to someone else's labor is. And you wrote a law - which you never even bothered to read - and passed it to enshrine that "Right."

Then you found out you'd written the law wrong, and it went to the Supreme Court. There, you - for you are all of a unit- a single parasite feeding on the labor of others, banning this and that at your whim, attempting to rewright nature to your benefit - decided that the plain language of the Constitution did not matter, that you knew best, and so you upheld the law anyway.

Then you found out you'd written it wrong another way, and it went back to the Supreme Court. There, once again, you decided plain language did not mean anything. No, we cannot base our compliance on the law upon the actual words of the law. Instead we have to guess at the whims of our Feudal Lords.

Fuck. That.

You undermine the Rule of Law at your own peril. Do you think you won't pay the price for instituting the Rule of Man? Most of Human History is the story of the Rule of Man- and it is a brutal, blood-soaked history as one Man continually attempts to overthrow another Man. And this is not ancient history, but recent. What was the Communist Revolution in Russia if not one Man overthrowing other Men? What was the rise of Naziism except for the attempt of one Man to overthrow other Men?

So fuck you. Fuck you for taking this dream that was America and destroying it. Fuck you for turning the Bright Shining City on a Hill into "just one more nation among nations." Fuck you for returning us to the barbarism of the past, all because of your avarice and desire for more power, more privilege.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (kff5f)

456 @422 - yeah, if one wanted to go all Alex Jones you could argue that "now that OPM's been hacked" admin and associated Dem thugs can leak anything they want to leak on any Federal staffer or official and plausibly claim 'Oh, that must have come from the Chinese, or someone who bought or stole it from them'.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (o+SC1)

457 You have to wonder if Roberts received a late night visit from some
people who had some things to say regarding this bit of business.


At this point I'd believe any grassy knoll alien probe planted explosives theory that came out, because it would make a f* of a lot more sense than anything that happens in what was previously known as reality.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (sH832)

458 Exactly according to plan. Once everyone is on welfare, unemployment, and food stamps and the government runs out of money to pay all those benefits, the Communist revolution will be inevitable once the rioting starts!

Muhahahahaha!

262
Fredo/Robertscare will bankrupt America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 10:41 AM (wq4B0)

Posted by: Cloward and Pliven at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (fVOPU)

459 214 "Oh, and I can't wait till they put up a Section 8 housing project next to some rich liberals!


Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 10:33 AM (cHuNI)"
Won't happen. Sudden Rezoning Law Syndrome" will strike.

Oh, they won't have to be 'next' to each other.

If, anywhere federal money is being spent, one place is comparatively worse than another, despite the reason being that in one place the people are shiftless, lazy shitheels, the 'disparatively imacted' area will get more funds.

Posted by: West at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (1Rgee)

460 America wins again. I want to thank the Republican Party for continuing to nominate judges and justices that vote with the liberals. Good job, you.

Posted by: Trace at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (ibvmu)

461 We are now officially Venezuela. The last hope of stopping the train, just disappeared.


Like IowaHawk, said it was a good run. I guess the two illegally adopted kids of Roberts trumps his morals.


Posted by: Nip Sip at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (0FSuD)

462 you're aware that the US attorneys are going after Reason for their commenters' IPs and such, right?
========
Reason is a bunch of cowardly shits who complied with the gag order and actually treated the subpoena as legitimate.

I shall tell you all a story, a fable, if you will:

The leaders are not following the law but expect you to, why are you following the law?

Do you no know that you will be destroyed whether you follow the law or not?

Do you no know that there is no safety left in following the law?

But, as you follow the law and they do not, you further their advantage.

What choice will the frog make?

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)

463 418 What a fucking joke.....

Um, I'm not sure I get the punchline. I think I'm the butt of the joke.

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (yj/Rg)

464 Look for the silver lining, and try to find the sunny si...

Oh, screw it.

Posted by: dantesed at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (88xKn)

465 Thank you, dubya.

Posted by: Zombie Rehnquist at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (gTfX/)

466 Thank you George Cocksucking Bush for losing Congress in 2006 and then assuring the win for obama in 2008.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 25, 2015 11:04 AM (9Mqkr)





And that happened because of Hispandering. It is no accident that Bush's approval numbers plummeted when "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" was trotted out.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (GsebS)

467 "Disparately Impacted" BIRM.

Posted by: West at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (1Rgee)

468
I am sticking with my pet theory, those in DC know the jig is up, the debt can't be maintained, let alone paid. So they are going to grab what they can power and money, and do the best to replace the electorate with people who are used to and want socialism. They keep their cushy positions and won't have to face an uprising, which is their biggest fear. I suddenly want to be in the new politburo too.

btw, getting a little chuckle at the immediate campaigning against obamacare by the GOPe trying to maintain the LIV vote. They have no shame.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (ODxAs)

469 Well, one thing's for certain.

Obama's eulogy for the Charleston dead is going to be FULL of Obamacare.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (fwARV)

470 Don't rewrite history. Roberts was fully
recommended and supported by the conservative faction of the GOP. I
don't fault them or anyone for not seeing how Roberts turned out. He's a
lawyer after all .

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 25, 2015 11:01 AM (CCNCh)


You are the one who is rewriting history. Roberts was known to be a Big Precedent kind of guy. People (conservatives) were saying at the time they HOPED that didn't mean he would give in to legislative whims.

Everyone knew this was possible. Even someone like me, who knows jack sh*t about the who and whats of the legal profession.


What is surprising to many however, is how much Roberts is consistently doing the left's bidding. People thought he would at least lean right.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (TOk1P)

471 The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (UypUQ)
---
I dont know, the socialist healthcare systems in Europe seem to linger for more than half a century now.

Posted by: Harley Quinn at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (CpsRI)

472 423 President Obama will deliver a statement 11:30 am ET on the Supreme Court ruling today which upheld the Obamacare law. ---
heres the text....
How does my ass taste? followed but 13 minutes of giggluing.

BTW, he'll be 37 minutes late

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (/eTPT)

473 Any 'ettes that require hugs and consolation, I'm in Oregon and single so no angry wife conflicts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (39g3+)

474 "I would say 99.9% of conservatives were wholeheartedly behind Roberts nomination"

I took one look at Roberts and figured him for a readily manipulable corporatist hack, not as a staunch defender of black-letter law and Constitutional principle.

And not just nominating Roberts, but sweeping him directly into the Chief Justice's seat?

This *after* the various debacles of "conservatives" who turned out to be anything but. O'Connor, Kennedy, Souter...

Genuine conservatives pay attention to history, and history counsels care in judicial selection, whereas Dubya couldn't be arsed to pay attention.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (noWW6)

475 Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)

The frog would say shaddup, dummy, or you could be doxxed in the next round of secret subpoenas.

It's not so much the legal aspect -- they have no case -- its the lawfare aspect.

Your name, DOB, address, etc., will be made public. The SJWs and Twitter Mobs will seek to destroy you, your family, and anyone who looks like you.

How does that help anything?

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (AkOaV)

476 I was 100% on board with Roberts. I thought the way he handled his interrogations from the left wing was masterful, and I was impressed.

I am less impressed now.

I still think Alito is a good jurist for the most part.

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (RLFFI)

477 Oh well.... gotta leave the innertubes for the day.... maybe the week. Just too depressing.

Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (fLKzW)

478 If I were to offer Chief Just Us Roberts some good advice it would be to stay out of dark alleys - but I'm not offering him any advice.



Posted by: An Observation at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (ZxEaK)

479
BTW, he'll be 37 minutes late
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (/eTPT)

I'll take that bet and raise you 5 minutes.

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (wkuqO)

480 Next up? Queer marriage OK

Posted by: Nip Sip at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (0FSuD)

481 Then there's this.

The Chinese now have a possible base of operations in the Northeast.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Alibaba billionaire Jack Ma has purchased 28,100 acres in New York's Adirondacks.

Ma claims he has conservation plans for the property.

28,000 acres equals 44 square miles. Manhattan Island is 33 square miles.

Sleep well, America.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 25, 2015 11:08 AM (4AVeu)

482 So do we need to all strap mattresses to our backsides now?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (oDCMR)

483 Heh. "Roberts turned for much less"


Longshanks talking to Caitlynn the Bruce

Posted by: Sphynx at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (OZmbA)

484 BTW, he'll be 37 minutes late

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (/eTPT)

He may be on time. Can't wait to rub it in America's face.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (fWAjv)

485 You have to wonder if Roberts received a late night visit from some

people who had some things to say regarding this bit of business.


I honestly believe that every person in elected office in Washington has a file of dirty laundry that breaks their opposition. At that point it either becomes 'get on the gravy train or be a headline in 24 hours.'

That's why every conservative that goes to Washington is Boner or Yertle's bitch within the first vote.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (oVJmc)

486 "In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent stat phrase"

For instance, the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, ninth and tenth amendments have really been misunderstood for a very long time. You have to take them in context with the glorious intent to create a special new world that is ongoing.

Posted by: The Supreme Rulers at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (zWnWk)

487 468

I am sticking with my pet theory, those in DC know the jig is up,
the debt can't be maintained, let alone paid. So they are going to grab
what they can power and money, and do the best to replace the electorate
with people who are used to and want socialism. They keep their cushy
positions and won't have to face an uprising, which is their biggest
fear.

* * *

That would explain much. If your theory is accurate, the Great Disillusionment must be imminent.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (bGLSw)

488 >>> Jones, Washington and Hale (well, not so much Hale) also took up arms
against the (now laughably benign) British "tyranny." We, being
cautioned against such remedies, have only a worthless, compromised and
watered-down vote. <<<



'Zactly. All I've ever seen from the GOP, the conservative blogosphere,and any others who've asked for $$ and pretended to be leading this cause is "Oh, no, let's give the System/Process a chance!", when the System/Process has been utterly compromised and aided in it's unraveling by the very same "Conservative Leadership" to which $$$$ and votes have been given, increasingly grudgingly, for years. It reminds me of the idiotic Israeli government which acts with such timidity and shiftlessness with the Arab murderers living next door to them, but literally slap the shit of any Jewish actions which remotely smack of well-founded frustration at being staked out like sheep for the slaughter.

"We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor."

What do words mean?

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 25, 2015 11:09 AM (sCHw2)

489 The next president will be Hillary. There's no point in thinking otherwise. The Left gets whatever it wants because the GOP hands it to them.

Posted by: Null at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (xjpRj)

490 iowahawk


Supreme Court rules US President is the US Congress, and also the US Supreme Court

Thanks, Constitutional government, it was a good run

If the government can pretend a law is constitutional, I'll go ahead and pretend to obey it

Can we finally abandon the pretense of SCOTUS as learned priestly scholars in holy vestments? Only 1 thing matters in DC: raw power.



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (qCMvj)

491 Any 'ettes that require hugs and consolation, I'm in Oregon and single so no angry wife conflicts.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (39g3+)





I'm down Interstate 5 in Sacramento. Likewise.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (GsebS)

492 This puts into perspective the courage of the early colonials who rebelled against their king.

Had they lost, they would have been hanged.

I suspect a part of the explanation for Roberts/Alito is quite simple, they didn't want to face the chaos that would result. It was just easier to define 'The State' as including the Federal government.

Those men at Concord who faced the British Army? Put yourself in their shoes. Could you have done it?

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (gTEMl)

493 471
The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.



Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (UypUQ)

Yes it will fail and the answer?


SINGLE PAYER BITCHES. The plan all along. Hello.

Posted by: Nip Sip at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (0FSuD)

494 Do you suppose the Commiecrats have blackmail stuff on Justice Roberts, a la Denny Hastert?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (GsebS)

495 The next president will be Hillary. There's no point in thinking otherwise. The Left gets whatever it wants because the GOP hands it to them.
Posted by: Null at June 25, 2015 11:10 AM (xjpRj)


Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote, or none of us will vote for Jeb!!!!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (qCMvj)

496 Wait till obama gets gay "marriage?"...

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (Bn6aD)

497 #455: what he said...

cubed.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (pZtrP)

498 Has rockmom shown up to lick Roberts nuts like she did last time he caved on Obamacare.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (YbEO/)

499 There's really no point in talking about constitutionality any longer. Its not an issue. We've abandoned it as a country. The voters don't even know what it says, let alone care. The politicians and judges simply don't give a crap about it. The constitution isn't binding any longer. That's how law works: once everyone starts ignoring it, its no longer a law.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:11 AM (39g3+)

500 I will probably wait until I have a full bottle of American Rye Whiskey in my hands on Independence Day to read this decision and the prior Obamacare decision. But at first glance it looks like the two decisions cannot be intellectually reconciled.


Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (4KoRb)

501 The supreme court is used to finding hidden meanings and making law out of whole cloth. This is just more of the same. The only intent they should be looking at is what the founders wanted plus the amendments and what they intended. By the way there is no way you can come up with if you are born here you are a citizen out of the civil war set of amendments. Another liberal appointed by a republican, Earl Warren found out birth citizenship, and duel citizenship. You think about it nothing new here at all.

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (wkuqO)

502
My allegiance to this country is GONE, gone, gone.

And, funny thing, they NEED people like to work hard and 'play by the rules' for this country to 'work'. And I'm just out. I'M SO VERY TIRED OF BEING A CHUMP FOR THIS COUNTRY!


Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (yj/Rg)

503 , the socialist healthcare systems in Europe seem to linger

Not having to pay for your own defense helps.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (DL2i+)

504 if you want to keep up with Ace

he's on

https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (qCMvj)

505 It still would've been 5-4 if Roberts had voted with the dissent. Why does Kennedy get a pass just because we know he'll vote lib?

Posted by: RLTW at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (mJLvJ)

506 I don't know if this deserves a flaming skull. Who wasn't expecting the supreme court to rule in favor of obama care?

Posted by: Draki at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (0eidE)

507 Here's the deal - it would have been nice if the ruling had gone the other way. It would have made us feel better and encouraged us to hope.

Truth is, it ain't going to get better. Sorry to be so gloomy.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (6xtq3)

508 416 The ACC is how the insurance industry and Congress has killed co-pay plans. Welcome to the world of the annual high deductible.

Posted by: Wendy at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (KydDZ)

509 Who looks crazy now?

Posted by: Article V at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (UnJ7w)

510 Apart from "Let It Burn" what crazy choices do we have now?

1. Finally turn the Tea Party into a viable political party organization as opposed to the proven worthless "let's hold their feet to the fire" org. The Rs love the fire for fundraising.

2. Start a serious effort for independence from the Federal government - i.e. secession.

Rule of whim, cronyism at its finest, no major difference between parties in action, judges willing to do whatever it takes to support tyranny, no privacy, true enemies of the people given aid and comfort at the highest levels of government, your God-given rights outlined in the Constitution not just pissed away but mocked...and we honestly think that any political party is going to turn the tide on this down the road? IMO time for real talk about Red State secession.

Posted by: The Most Secessionist Man In The World at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (f7UVF)

511 Stop being a good citizen. Do what you are compelled to do and no more. Protect others that do likewise. Offer to pay everyone in cash. If you know of tax cheating, keep your mouth shut. If called to jury, refuse to convict.

They need us more than we need them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (evdj2)

512 @485 - the point is that now since the OPM hack whatever information's in the SF-86 is now fair game for arm-twisting by admin officials and anyone they want to leak it to because it's known to be in the wild, and if it shows up somewhere it obviously came from the Chinese, right?

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (o+SC1)

513 Some days I seriously question the wisdom of my decision to stop drinking.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (YFw5T)

514 Isn't this decision simply an admission that the Supreme Court is unneccessary?

Simply do what Congress wanted.

Or are they still needed to overturn the will of the rabble (like they will tomorrow)?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (oVJmc)

515 >>"Oh, and I can't wait till they put up a Section 8 housing project next to some rich liberals!

The super-rich who bankroll Democrats are safe - this will be aimed squarely at the middle-class who have fled the cities for more space and safer communities. It will make the suburban and rural* communities for most of us unsafe while the coastal people who live in the really pricey neighborhoods will be fine - they can buy up enough land to separate themselves from the riff-raff.

*They're flooding rural small towns with "new Americans", not just sending them to big cities - this will have a disproportionate impact on those communities.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (NOIQH)

516 "Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote"

Been saying that for a couple weeks, ever since Ryan said "...so you can know what's in it." That was my final personal epiphany that it's truly all over and nothing political matters anymore.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (bGLSw)

517 506 I don't know if this deserves a flaming skull. Who wasn't expecting the supreme court to rule in favor of obama care?

Silly Me, I wasn't

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (Bn6aD)

518 Plan for this afternoon: I have some items to drop off at my gunsmith and I think I will get a milkshake for the ride.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (6xtq3)

519 BREAKING: President Obama to deliver statement on Supreme Court ruling on Affordable Care Act at 11:30am ET, White House says

I'm watching soccer.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (qCMvj)

520 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (q+zA9)

521 513 Some days I seriously question the wisdom of my decision to stop drinking.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (YFw5T)

You and me both buddy, you and me both.

Posted by: Arson Wells at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (UnJ7w)

522
I'm not going to celebrate "independence day' this year. No BBQ or fireworks for me.

I'll probably watch a Jane Austen movie marathon this year.

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (yj/Rg)

523 This is why I favor civil war rather than some equitable national divorce.

There is a whole lot of justice that needs to be done.

Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (ZbV+0)

524 I also confess to being one who gave Roberts the benefit of the doubt way back during round 1. After today, it appears I was as mistaken as I could be.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (bGLSw)

525
Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote, /i]

Doesn't matter if we all vote. We're a tiny minority and the system is rigged anyway. After the last 7 years, what exactly do you think is beyond the left, to retain power? Does anyone really think they wouldn't cheat, lie, and doctor the results to keep the presidency? That they have any shred of honor left, that they would say "no, this is bad for the country" and stop?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:16 AM (39g3+)

526 I'm watching soccer.


Sock drawer already alphabetized?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 11:16 AM (ZKzrr)

527 Now Obamacare gets to implode on its own. If it doesn't implode, maybe they were right and we were wrong and it will be a good thing.

That being said, there is no fukking way it is not going to implode due to the huge deductibles, co-pays and/or premiums coupled with a scarcity in availability of actual health care rather than health insurance. The States who accepted it now face more and more Medicaid costs which will destroy the balance of their budgets.

Its probably better this way.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 25, 2015 11:16 AM (QdAXQ)

528 Meh. It was already burning. Just another confirmation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 25, 2015 11:16 AM (LA7Cm)

529 >>>
518
Plan for this afternoon: I have some items to drop off at my gunsmith and I think I will get a milkshake for the ride.

Posted by: Weasel at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (6xtq3) <<<

So, DDD, at least?

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 25, 2015 11:16 AM (sCHw2)

530 IMO time for real talk about Red State secession.
Posted by: The Most Secessionist Man In The World at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (f7UVF)

The federal government already answered the question of, "I wonder what would happen if the states tried to leave this 'voluntary' union?" 150 years ago.

Not happening.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)

531 There is a whole lot of justice that needs to be done.
Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (ZbV+0)


Words have lost their meaning so there will be no justice served. LOL

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 11:17 AM (wkuqO)

532 "Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote ever trust the GOP again after so many betrayals."

FIFY

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 11:17 AM (O7MnT)

533
I've noticed that famous french women tend to kill themselves by jumping our of buildings.

Olga Georges Picot - she was the countessa in Love & Death and the young thing in Day of the Jackal whose fiance was killed. Jumped out her 5th floor window.

Jane Birkin's kid, a fashion photog - jumped out her 4th floor window

Capucine - jumped out her 11th floor window.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 11:17 AM (iQIUe)

534 " Who looks crazy now?

Posted by: Article V"




They won't pay attention to you either.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (LA7Cm)

535 My guess is Hillary will now run on zero deductibles for Democrats and double deductibles for white males cuz oppression.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (oDCMR)

536 The one good thing about jumping to your death, after the first step, you're committed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (evdj2)

537 516 "Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote"

I know that sounds terrible - but how will voting republican change the trajectory? We're headed in the same direction - to the same destination - regardless of whether it's Clinton or Bush or Rubio. It may take an other few years to get there under the republicans, but we'll end up there just the same.

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (yj/Rg)

538 516 "Hillary will be potus because none of us will vote"

I know that sounds terrible - but how will voting republican change the trajectory? We're headed in the same direction - to the same destination - regardless of whether it's Clinton or Bush or Rubio. It may take an other few years to get there under the republicans, but we'll end up there just the same.

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (yj/Rg)

539 517 506 I don't know if this deserves a flaming skull. Who wasn't expecting the supreme court to rule in favor of obama care?

Silly Me, I wasn't

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:14 AM (Bn6aD)

I was actually pretty surprised by this one. We've gone fully through the looking glass on this one. When writing a law or a contract there usually is a definitions section. If the document says "State" it means State. If words have no meaning, and there is no limiting factor, why even write laws anymore?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (t06LC)

540 The law will fail on its own, anyways. No way these Health Care "Markets" survive more than a decade.



Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 10:59 AM (UypUQ)

---

I dont know, the socialist healthcare systems in Europe seem to linger for more than half a century now.

Posted by: Harley Quinn at June 25, 2015 11:07 AM (CpsRI)
---But those are paid fully and directly by their government. The ACA scheme is built on the bonkers idea that the govt. can set product features, and contract policies of private tranasactions and it will all just work out. Eventually this thing will get into a nasty death spiral and the middle class will revolt.
18 months, folks.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (UypUQ)

541 418 What a fucking joke..... Um, I'm not sure I get the punchline. I think I'm the butt of the joke.
Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:06 AM (yj/Rg)

The saying goes: if you're sitting at a table with a group of con-artists planning a scam and you don't know who the mark is, then you're the mark.

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (S08gh)

542 I understand the anger and disappointment, but surprise? Nope, this is par for the course. The States have a remedy for just this sort of thing, you know?, thanks to George Mason.

Posted by: Arson Wells at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (UnJ7w)

543 511 Stop being a good citizen. Do what you are compelled to do and no more. Protect others that do likewise. Offer to pay everyone in cash. If you know of tax cheating, keep your mouth shut. If called to jury, refuse to convict.

They need us more than we need them.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (evdj2)

This I'm on board with 100%.

Already basically live my life that way.

I figure "if its good enough for the clintons, its good enough for me"

Just fly under the radar, and let everyone else fly under the radar without being a narc. The amigos want to get "out of the shadows"? Great! That'll make more room "in the shadows" for me.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (AkOaV)

544 Here is how I feel.....I am happy to pay the subsidies for Obamacare. Bring it on.

But, stop charging me for Medicaid. Just stop it. I'm never going to see a dime of it. It will probably be so depleted, my parents won't even get to use it.

It's one or the other. The fact that you are asking me....a lower income individual to pay in taxes for BOTH Medicare and to subsidize Obamacare? No...just no.

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (RLFFI)

545 "
The federal government already answered the question of, "I wonder what would happen if the states tried to leave this 'voluntary' union?" 150 years ago. "

Yeah, but the tables have turned this time around. The US needs Texas a lot more than Texas needs the US. I'm sure other conservative states will see that calculus and join up as well, if it comes to it. We could get the entire gulf coast and probably a straight shot up to Canada as well.

Posted by: Lauren at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (MYCIw)

546 There are people very upset in every state. It won't be just the south that tries to leave in a shit hits the fan time.

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (wkuqO)

547 From now on, lets swear an oath to a chair instead of the constitution. You can at least trust a chair.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (oDCMR)

548 And these guys say jury nullification is a bad thing. Looking like it may become the law of the land.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (4KoRb)

549 I'll probably watch a Jane Austen movie marathon this year.





Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:15 AM (yj/Rg)



Pride and Prejudice and Zombies?

Posted by: Count de Hudson at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (JO9+V)

550 Reince Priebus 41 minutes ago

Republicans Go On #Obamacare Offensive: A Reckless Law:



Ahhhh. Hate you so much!!!

*pounds desk*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 25, 2015 10:53 AM (kdS6q)



Please return to your seats.


Failure Theater starts in 5 minutes.


Please return to your seats.


Failure Theater starts in 5 minutes.


No food or drink is allowed inside Failure Theater.


Please return to your seats.

Posted by: naturalfake - Usher at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (0cMkb)

551 526
I'm watching soccer.



Sock drawer already alphabetized?


Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier
<<


Heh. I have a German daughter in law. I often have to resist the temptation to tell her that watching 'football' to me is about as exciting as watching grass grow. Maybe I just don't 'get it'?

Posted by: Sphynx at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (OZmbA)

552 513 Some days I seriously question the wisdom of my decision to stop drinking.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (YFw5T)

This X 1000. Been on the wagon 19 years. I might discuss booze but I don't drink. Now? Why bother being responsible? There's no reward for it.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (RD7QR)

553 What the fuck do they mean by "The legislature" wrote it a certain way and We "Intemperate" it to mean this when it really means that?

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (Bn6aD)

554 The ACA is really more in the nature of an enabling act. It sounds so much better in the original German: Ermächtigungsgesetz.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (SGtBn)

555 The federal government already answered the question of, "I wonder what would happen if the states tried to leave this 'voluntary' union?" 150 years ago.

Permanent marriage. No divorce allowed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (W5DcG)

556 Welp, I'm dead.


You're on your own now, bitchez.

Posted by: The Rule of Law at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (0cMkb)

557 For example, I allegedly accidentally (allegedly) stumbled upon an alleged illegal (allegedly) marijuana grow room in a house.

Did I say anything? Nope!

Not my business, and I sure as hell am not in the mood to help the government fuck over my fellow citizens.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (AkOaV)

558 Unleash the comment Krakken!!! Then let's get lunch.

Posted by: Blah oh at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (/SdD1)

559 So do we need to all strap mattresses to our backsides now?

Will that stop the buggering we're getting from DC?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (eEb+d)

560 I'm in The Navy for many reasons but one of the big ones is TRICARE Reserve Select. It may be one of the only good health insurance plans left. And it's still good for 2 years at least. It's saving me 30-40 thousand tax free.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (wq4B0)

561 Ermaechtigungsgesetz.

(Apparently Ace don't do umlauts.)

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (SGtBn)

562 Illegal Irish adoptions.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2015 10:54 AM

I hope the next prez can tell him to resign in January 2017.

Posted by: Lester at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (2UPXV)

563 C'mon. Who's really surprised by this?

And is it just me but do all these turncoats seem to have this facial tic where they look like they're trying to hide a smirk when they're photographed?

Is it because they know they're screwing the country while claiming otherwise? Or are they trying to keep from laughing at all the rubes that put them in positions of power and now they can shove it up our ass?

Posted by: Jakee308 at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (x3GpS)

564 Obaamacare will never implode. Our leaders will just borrow and print more money to pay for it and to pay for the illegals while your job gets shipped overseas. This blog supported the Christie type of republican over the Palin type, and now you are seeing how stupid you were, but it is too late now! Sorry.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (COpZ4)

565
I've got some experience making floats.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 10:48 AM (ZKzrr)

I'd like a root beer float, please.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (2Ojst)

566 Can't get that Stones song outta my head

Oh well I used to love herrrrr
But it's all over now

Posted by: ginaswo at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (+kfYT)

567 Shocking, actually shocking. I ummm...wow.

Posted by: BuckIV at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (CLfqv)

568 Don't forget Evelyn McHale who jumped from the Observation Deck of the Empire State Building on May 1, 1947.

Famous picture of her embedded in the roof of a car as if she were asleep.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (8BTx6)

569 I didn't INTEND to rob that store I just thought Fuck It!

I hate these fucking hacks.

Posted by: mpfs, Questioning My Sanity at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (7XLMK)

570
Isn't this decision simply an admission that the Supreme Court is unneccessary?

Simply do what Congress wanted.

Or are they still needed to overturn the will of the rabble (like they will tomorrow)?


Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 25, 2015 11:13 AM (oVJmc)


They have that nice building. It would be a shame if it went unused. And there's probably a snack shop in the building, and janitors... what, you want to put them out of work? How cruel.


let's not even discuss the black robe industrial complex. And gavel makers...

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (TOk1P)

571 545

Expect federally-backed foreign amphib assaults on the Gulf coast of Texas.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:21 AM (bGLSw)

572
So... very... thirsty...

Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (9TK8E)

573 414
Big win for the "Let it Burn" crowd
==========
Pretty much.

I said it yesterday but, LiB has to include the courts--they are just as much a part of the State as Congress and the bureaucracy.

There is no part of the federal government that is legitimate any more but some still cling to the courts as the neutral referee--they are not.

And we are very much to the point where you cannot call yourself a conservative and an American but still give legitimacy to the courts.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (ZvKdv)

574 The most striking thing in Roberts' affirmation is that he sites the intent of the legislature.

The legislature didn't draft the law and few, if any of them, read the law. So it is impossible to know what the intent of the legislature was.

They relied on consultants, like Gruber to draft the law and we know what his intent was. It was to punish the state who didn't set up exchanges.

So Roberts is full of shit.

Surprisingly.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (BZAd3)

575 536 The one good thing about jumping to your death, after the first step, you're committed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 11:18 AM (evdj2)

=========

Yeah. I saw a student after he jumped from the 9th floor. It was not a pretty sight. You wd think women would still want to look good. I guess not. It must partly be a fixation. I read about weird suicides and I think b/c people are mentally ill they get fixated on these weird methods.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (iQIUe)

576

The only tiny silver lining is that the left that voted for this sh*t, and have to pay the huge fees and deductions, and not be able to choose their doctor, and not getting care... bankruptcy just around the corner.

f**k 'em.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (qCMvj)

577 Scalia's dissent: "We lack the prerogative to repair laws that do not work out in practice, just as the people lack the ability to throw us out of office if they dislike the solutions we concoct."

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (hiT/m)

578 My allegiance to this country is GONE, gone, gone.
And, funny thing, they NEED people like to work hard and 'play by the rules' for this country to 'work'. And I'm just out. I'M SO VERY TIRED OF BEING A CHUMP FOR THIS COUNTRY!

Posted by: Lily at June 25, 2015 11:12 AM (yj/Rg)


Aren't we all?

Now would be a very good time for someone of national stature to stand up and call for an open revolt, whether that takes the form of tax withholding, strikes or what-have-you, as our vote has been rendered impotent.

But that would get them downtwinkles from the media. So it won't happen.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (zF6Iw)

579 The Pirate's code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (evdj2)

580 Now Obamacare gets to implode on its own. If it doesn't implode, maybe
they were right and we were wrong and it will be a good thing.


It will implode. Unless I've mistaken, we haven't hit the point where existing health plans for the rich (ie the employed) are taxed as income. That's about the last thing that can be done to prop up the greedy scum in the health care industry, but it won't be sustainable in the broader economy.

Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (ZbV+0)

581 This blog supported the Christie type of republican over the Palin type, and now you are seeing how stupid you were, but it is too late now! Sorry.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 25, 2015 11:20 AM (COpZ4)


That's bullshit. THIS Blog never supported a RHINO type candidate. We might have said those POSs were better than Fredo, but that is about as far as any of us went, so don't put words in our mouths.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (wq4B0)

582 555 The federal government already answered the question of, "I wonder what would happen if the states tried to leave this 'voluntary' union?" 150 years ago.

Permanent marriage. No divorce allowed.

I've often wondered if a State had a 90% income tax and a year end good behavior rebate bonus could they not shield most of their citizens from paying Fed income taxes?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (oDCMR)

583 Yeah, but the tables have turned this time around. The US needs Texas a lot more than Texas needs the US. I'm sure other conservative states will see that calculus and join up as well, if it comes to it. We could get the entire gulf coast and probably a straight shot up to Canada as well.

Also, slavery gave the Civil War a moral impetus that is currently lacking.

Can you imagine a Brooklyn hipster or a Boston beta-male college student willing to fight and die to keep Texas and South Carolina in the USA?

I can picture it, but it's kind of hilarious.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (O7MnT)

584 Yeah, but the tables have turned this time around. The US needs Texas a lot more than Texas needs the US. I'm sure other conservative states will see that calculus and join up as well, if it comes to it. We could get the entire gulf coast and probably a straight shot up to Canada as well.
Posted by: Lauren at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (MYCIw)

Oh yeah? Well if Lincoln was willing to let 650,000 people or whatever die to "preserve the union" what do you think someone like Obama would be willing to do -- especially if it were to a bunch of dumb toothless pick up truck driving confederate flag waving, cousin kissin rednecks?

Yeah. It's not about "who needs who" its about who controls the money, military, and nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:22 AM (AkOaV)

585 United States of Adolescence

Posted by: derit at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (jT+gh)

586 "The question whether the judges are invested with exclusive authority to decide on the constitutionality of a law has been heretofore a subject of consideration with me in the exercise of official duties. Certainly there is not a word in the Constitution which has given that power to them more than to the Executive or Legislative branches."

Posted by: Evil, racist T. Jefferson at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (MYCIw)

587 The federal government already answered the question of, "I wonder what
would happen if the states tried to leave this 'voluntary' union?" 150
years ago.



Not happening.


In the nuclear age there are better solutions to central government than defensive wars.

Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (ZbV+0)

588 i know today's a doom and gloom day, but seriously, where's the recoverability from 'the law means whatever we say it means'?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (fwARV)

589 I don't see marching in the streets, banging pots and pans comes first. As for a tea party working there are too many LIVers. Way outnumbered and way more hated.

Just have to wait til they run out of other peoples money and watch and wait.

Posted by: just saying at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (wkuqO)

590 The Drudge headline says it all...

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:24 AM (Bn6aD)

591 So. Affirmative Action now applies to Court Rulings?
Apparently, Justice Roberts fancies himself as The Man in The Yellow Hat...

Good to know.

Posted by: Garrett at June 25, 2015 11:24 AM (M5DBf)

592 Willowed from the prior thread:


The hero commander of the Second Battle of Sabine Pass and Houston's
first prominent citizen is going to get the Moses treatment - banished
and stricken from the record, so let it be petitioned, so let it be
done.

It seems the chirrun in the HISD middle school named for
the Irish bartender turned Confederate hero, the Richard W. Dowling
Middle School of Fine Arts, cannot learn and excel in an institution so
named.

They need to let this die because it's divisive to black people, brown

people, and it represents that period in history which was a bloody

period; and a lot of people say it wasn't about slavery but it was,


said Linda Scurlock, barking moonbat, who is collecting signatures to change the name of
Dowling Middle School.

Last year, the Houston school district spent about $250,000 to change mascot names,

like the then-named Lamar Redskins, that were deemed offensive to the

Native American Community.





Let it Burn, Let it Burn, Let it Burn!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 25, 2015 11:24 AM (JO9+V)

593
Wango Tango - BAY BAY! BAY BAY! BAY BAY!

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 11:24 AM (gTEMl)

594 Socialists = Communists
Democrats = Socialists
Republicans = Democratic Socialists

We have no party.

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (QoSR8)

595 Lets face it, we are all in this pirate ship together and there's no escape possible. All you can do is slit throats, drink rum and rape. Kind of like Detroit.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (oDCMR)

596 Heh. I have a German daughter in law. I often have to resist the temptation to tell her that watching 'football' to me is about as exciting as watching grass grow. Maybe I just don't 'get it'?
Posted by: Sphynx at June 25, 2015 11:19 AM (OZmbA)


She better be rooting for Bayern Munich!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (qCMvj)

597 Wow, I made Ace's Twatter feed.

Somehow, I still don't feel any better about this revolting development.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (eEb+d)

598 I often have to resist the temptation to tell her that watching
'football' to me is about as exciting as watching grass grow. Maybe I
just don't 'get it'?


I've enjoyed watching Die Mannschaft (*giggle!*) but I wasn't actually watching them for the beauty of the game, IFYKWIM.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (ZKzrr)

599 "Can't get that Stones song outta my head"

Actually, I have been thinking about Gimme Shelter:

Oh, a storm is threat'ning
My very life today
If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away

War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin' our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet, mad bull lost its way

War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away


Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (4AVeu)

600 the socialist healthcare systems in Europe seem to linger

They're collapsing. England is now allowing private medical care for the rich, Norway is about to totally implode financially, etc, etc. They've reached not only the end of other people's money, but other country's as well. That's all the EU was, a last ditch desperate attempt to keep socialism going longer by sharing the cost between all countries.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (39g3+)

601 The Federal exchanges self-identify as State.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (4KoRb)

602 So ... NOW is it OK for me to espouse my STOP PROPPING UP THIS COUNTRY attititude ?

You know ... the one where I tell you quit sending your kids to serve in it's armies, quit all the hokey GOD BLESS THE USA shit every time they wave a flag, quit obeying your natural reflex to instinctively supporting their law enforcement programs because you just can't help but want to see them as the LAW AND ORDER GOOD GUYS.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 25, 2015 11:25 AM (sdG82)

603 So we have gone from interpreting the law by what the law says, to interpreting the law by what it's intent is, to this new way of Supreme Court ruling: Interpreting the law by what we think they want to accomplish with the law.

Oh wait, no, we skipped right on past that one, because they knew what that section of the law wanted to accomplish (that being forcing states to start up their own exchange through political pressure) and ruling that way would mess it up. So the new way to interpret the law:

Assume the law was made with all good intentions and interpret sections of the law to mean that good intentions were meant.

Posted by: dougq at June 25, 2015 11:26 AM (IYEs/)

604 Oh thank God we don't have to try to save Obamacare ourselves and instead we can campaign on it to get all those stupid rubes to vote for us again.

Posted by: GOP fuckheads at June 25, 2015 11:26 AM (zt+N6)

605 455 Dear Justices of the Supreme Court, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Mitch McConnel, and all other Federal Officials.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 25, 2015 11:05 AM (kff5f)



You forgot "and everyone who voted for them".

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2015 11:26 AM (zoehZ)

606 The SCOTUS just saved Republicans' asses.

Had the ruling gone the other way, we'd be looking at Socialized Single Payer under President Hitlery Clinton

BELIEVE IT

liberturdians won't. But who cares what they think? They're too stoned to think most of the time anyway

Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (ZbB1q)

607 "where's the recoverability from 'the law means whatever we say it means'"

What reality is higher than The State?

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (QoSR8)

608 Roberts has been clear in previous opinions that he isn't going to use the Court to save the people from their electoral choices.

If people want the ACA repealed they are going to have to elect a president and a Congress who will, rather than relying on the Court to do their work for them.

Conservatives can bitch and moan, or they can organize and vote next year.

Frankly, this ruling denies Hillary the optics of "Defending Your Health Care" (tm) had subsidies gone down and various "solutions" been subsequently argued about in Congress for the next 18 months.

It's a horrible decision for a slew of reasons, but one of those reasons is NOT that it huts Republicans running next year, because it doesn't. It enhances their case and simplifies their ability to clearly oppose ACA without the distractions having to "solve" the lack of subsidies problem would present.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (ljZD2)

609 Hey, you serfs had a good run of almost 239 years. You serfs should be happy, we are in the bread and circus phase of the republic and should be thanking me for this you ingrates!

Posted by: King Baracky the furst at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (eObHQ)

610 Watched Boys in the Band again. Every gay actor dies of aids in the 80s and the early 90s. Only the straights survived...

One died of cancer and the imdb forum was arguing about whether he really died of aids. He did. They dont remember that the tip off that something was wrong in the gay community was all the rare cancers gay men were coming down with.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (iQIUe)

611 iowahawk

Obamacare: It's. The. Law.

The Law: It's. An. Arbitrary. Royal. Edict. Enforced. By. People. With. Guns.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (qCMvj)

612 What reality is higher than The State?


Me.

Posted by: Math at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (evdj2)

613 "*They're flooding rural small towns with "new Americans", not just
sending them to big cities - this will have a disproportionate impact on
those communities."

Yep. I'm always amazed when I go on road trips around the south how wide ranging and advanced the invasion is. Not in any way limited to big cities. And any state park with a beach? You would never know you are in the United States.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (1BQGO)

614 No secession. Our non-existant border and ever-increasing non-assimilating immigrant population will turn red states blue. And even if they don't, now the govt can sue under the FHA whenever conservatives live near each other. Break up those red districts with some Section 8 housing.

The libs play to win.

Posted by: brak at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (Tj+s6)

615 Lets face it obamacare isn't going anywhere...It's like the frog in the pot of cool water..... Seems nice at first but by the time it figures it out it's too late...

Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (Bn6aD)

616 @564

Rofl...THIS blog supported Christie?

Are you high?

This blog was firmly on the side of "I'd stay home before I EVER voted for Christie."

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (RLFFI)

617 i know today's a doom and gloom day, but seriously, where's the recoverability from 'the law means whatever we say it means'?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 11:23 AM (fwARV)



That's the thing isn't it?


The Rule of Law is dead.

Under this ruling, you could literally shit on a piece of paper, have it passed by Congress and signed by the President-

then interpret it to mean whatever you want-

becuz intentions.


The Coward John Roberts and Obama have broken the United States of America.

The Humpty Dumpty Principle is now operative.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (0cMkb)

618 Btw, to the morons who are disgusted and are going to skip tv and internet today I have a great suggestion for a great read. The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin.

Posted by: Arson Wells at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (UnJ7w)

619 "Words no longer have meaning" -Scalia

I do not know how much longer it will take, but this simple truth, uttered by a member of the highest court, is the proof that we are on path to decline.

This ruling will set a new precedent for judges when making rulings.
This ruling will now make it easier for them to finish off the rule of law.


As much as I dislike the ACA, in the bigger scheme that is Minor.The consequences of this will go beyond this case.


Posted by: observation at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (jJn7d)

620 Nood.

Posted by: HH at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (Qia1Z)

621 All Is Well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (L52Oz)

622 Lets face it obamacare isn't going anywhere...It's like the frog in the pot of cool water..... Seems nice at first but by the time it figures it out it's too late...
Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (Bn6aD)


Remember, the left's response, if this was to be slashed, "single payer is better, anyway."

Now what do they do? It is the law.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2015 11:29 AM (qCMvj)

623 This ruling was awesome you stupid idiots! Now excuses I need to go lick Boehners taint.

Posted by: Rustytrombonedaddy at June 25, 2015 11:30 AM (zt+N6)

624 June 25, Battle at the Little Bighorn river, should we ban the U.S. Flag also?

Posted by: GT 5.0 at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (4DRs9)

625 Lets face it obamacare isn't going anywhere...It's like the frog in the pot of cool water..... Seems nice at first but by the time it figures it out it's too late...
Posted by: donna at June 25, 2015 11:28 AM (Bn6aD)

Fredocare wasn't going anywhere from the second it was passed. Tell me a major Law that was ever shot down after it passed?

That is why EVERY Hill is the Hill to fight on. And we fucked up and lost and those who voted for it should all be........ fill in the blank

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (wq4B0)

626 on the upside, pretty soon all y'all will be getting VA quality healthcare...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (044Yr)

627 Well, I am relived now that Mr. Rove, Genius political analyst has explained this Supreme Court Decision.

Who are you? Who Who -- who who. I really wanna know. Who the fuck are you?

Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (gTEMl)

628 I think it's time to admit that the tide has turned against liberty and responsibility and the rule of law.

Obama and his ilk won for a reason.

Same sex marriage is being accepted for a reason.

Access to abortion is allowed for a reason.

Our economy is in the shitter for a reason.

There aren't two parties (if there every were two) for a reason.

The media can lie and obfuscate for a reason.

Etc.

The reason is that the majority in the country believes those actions or situations are okay.

We're on the minority side and probably will be from now until the cumulative effects of these uninformed and ill conceived ideas overwhelm the country. And perhaps beyond that point.

Posted by: Jakee308 at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (x3GpS)

629 608 Roberts has been clear in previous opinions that he isn't going to use the Court to save the people from their electoral choices.

So the Rule of Law doesn't matter. Fine. Why listen to him anymore?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (JKoPF)

630 "Roberts has been clear in previous opinions that he isn't going to use
the Court to save the people from their electoral choices."

Silly me. And here I had thought that restraining incoherently written laws and/or laws which clash with Constitutional stipulations was THE JOB of the Court.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (noWW6)

631 What reality is higher than The State?

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (QoSR

Scary answer? Force.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (fwARV)

632 It enhances their case and simplifies their ability to clearly oppose ACA without the distractions having to "solve" the lack of subsidies problem would present.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy


The GOP has had 4 fucking years to 'oppose' the ACA and they've done dick all to change it let alone end it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (fYgrm)

633 liberturdians won't. But who cares what they think? They're too stoned to think most of the time anyway
Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (ZbB1q)

Oh, that's very nice.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (AkOaV)

634 I am sticking with my pet theory, those in DC know the jig is up, the
debt can't be maintained, let alone paid. So they are going to grab what
they can power and money, and do the best to replace the electorate
with people who are used to and want socialism. They keep their cushy
positions and won't have to face an uprising, which is their biggest
fear. I suddenly want to be in the new politburo too.
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It is a mafia "bust out" operation and has been since 2008.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (ZvKdv)

635 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (ljZD2)

Fuck off, collabortor.

Posted by: Methos at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (ZbV+0)

636 But, hey, there's no way on earth they're going to uphold that gay marriage thing, right?

Right?

Posted by: i give up. really. at June 25, 2015 11:32 AM (ZYzBq)

637
Yes, vote GOP "because judges".

At least 50% of GOP judges on the Court are GTG. 100% of Dem judges are crap.

Posted by: DonS at June 25, 2015 11:33 AM (Q2pWM)

638 It's a horrible decision for a slew of reasons, but
one of those reasons is NOT that it huts Republicans running next year,
because it doesn't. It enhances their case and simplifies their ability
to clearly oppose ACA without the distractions having to "solve" the
lack of subsidies problem would present.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at June 25, 2015 11:27 AM (ljZD2)


You're right. It doesn't hurt the Republican Party. What hurts the Republican Party is that it is being run by a bunch of unprincipled, power-grabbing pigs. Who now think they have enough muscle to completely marginalize conservatives.


Do they?


We'll see. If next year gives us two more years of Boner leadership in the House, I guess we'll know.

I'm done thinking what's good for the Republican Party is good for me, however.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2015 11:33 AM (TOk1P)

639 I'm sitting in the ER now with my aunt who has lung cancer. We came by ambulance because gdamn she struggles to pay her health insurance. I'm watching all these bottom feeders in here who are living off ME. They will never pay their bills.

Fuck them all. Not a penny from me to Republicans.

Posted by: mpfs, Questioning My Sanity at June 25, 2015 11:34 AM (7XLMK)

640 Just think serfs, when I call the election of November 2016 null and void for treasonous reasons. You'll still have me, plus now I will have your guns. Hahahahahahaha! You will bow to me!!!!Eleventy+

Posted by: King Baracky the furst at June 25, 2015 11:34 AM (eObHQ)

641 "The libs play to win."

Yep, and they have.

I keep running the Texas secession scenario through my head and keep coming up with...

*thousands of leftists are trucked in to ally with the Mexicans, all of whom are whipped into riot status all across the state.

If Texas manages to contain that...

*The President announces that all federally held land in Texas is now free to claim and settle by Mexicans. That's only 1.8% of the state but the border is allowed to completely disintegrate as the flood really begins.

If THAT fails...then the foreign military measures, also up through Mexico and from the Gulf.

Posted by: Doomed at June 25, 2015 11:34 AM (bGLSw)

642 Posted by: Jakee308 at June 25, 2015 11:31 AM (x3GpS)

We're just a fundamentally unserious peoples.

We got incredibly wealthy and successful incredibly quickly and we're now at the point where people just expect that to be the default way of life.

...Plus a very large number of people actually believe in "societal progression" like the Democrats sell. That we're constantly "evolving" in to a better world, a better country, a more perfect version of human beings.

They take all of that for granted.

Posted by: mynewhandle at June 25, 2015 11:34 AM (AkOaV)

643 Nope, here is what will happen.

The court will swing conservative on gay marriage to restore the "balance" to the court.

And, all those liberal independents will go nuts. And, all those uninformed conservatives will think it is some major victory, and sing the praises of the high court. So, there will be little pressure on the court from the right. And, the right will lose a large faction of independents.

Hillary, here we come.

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 11:34 AM (RLFFI)

644 "If people want the ACA repealed they are going to have to elect a president and a Congress who will, rather than relying on the Court to do their work for them."

Under the socialist Obama:

The USA is bankrupt.
We are no longer a world leader.
Our middle class is dwindling.
The destruction of the family is nearly complete.
Nearly fifty million Americans are on food stamps.
Almost 100 million Americans are out of the work force.

And there is no functional opposition to any of this.

Posted by: Feh at June 25, 2015 11:35 AM (QoSR8)

645 Court won't save the People from their political decisions. The People likely won't save the Court from its judicial decisions.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 25, 2015 11:35 AM (4KoRb)

646 AllenG, I loudly applaud your PLR at 455. Bravo, good sir, bravo!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2015 11:36 AM (2Ojst)

647 Today is just further proof of my theory of The DeRP! having been totally reconstituted.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 25, 2015 11:36 AM (8hctH)

648 644 "If people want the ACA repealed they are going to have to elect a president and a Congress who will, rather than relying on the Court to do their work for them."

Under the socialist Obama:

The USA is bankrupt.
We are no longer a world leader.
Our middle class is dwindling.
The destruction of the family is nearly complete.
Nearly fifty million Americans are on food stamps.
Almost 100 million Americans are out of the work force.

And there is no functional opposition to any of this.

You left out 'Obama's ass taste like skittles'.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 25, 2015 11:37 AM (oDCMR)

649 The plain meaning of the words in laws mean nothing anymore. The intent of the authors means nothing anymore: The intent of Congress was to deny subsidies to states without exchanges.

No, this meaning of "intent" is wholly new. "Intent" in the Roberts court means, "What's popular among the aristocracy."

Posted by: theCork at June 25, 2015 11:37 AM (hbAdE)

650 Breitbart has a piece about black pastors planning civil disobedience if (but let's be realistic... WHEN) SCOTUS upholds c*ck to bunghole "marriages". Don't know how to do the tiny url thingy or i'd link.... Can't wait to see that unfold!

Posted by: i give up. really. at June 25, 2015 11:37 AM (ZYzBq)

651 Conservatives can bitch and moan, or they can organize and vote next year.

This is how Lucy can keep getting Charlie Brown to try to kick that ball every Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 25, 2015 11:37 AM (39g3+)

652
This thing is beyond human intervention. Even if both houses and president were 100% republican it would make no difference. Even if they all become 100% Conservative in 2016 -its too late to fixanything. Obama hascompleted his mission. Its all over but the shouting.
You can'tfix the world. You can't fix acountry. You can do something about yourself however. I suggest those of you who are so inclined, make efforts in that direction -and I am not talking about losing weight, if anything you might want to put on a few pounds. The correction that is coming is literally going to bebiblical. Even an agnostic economist can tell you that.

Posted by: Simplemind at June 25, 2015 11:37 AM (5vV+V)

653 It's a horrible decision for a slew of reasons, but one of those reasons is NOT that it huts Republicans running next year, because it doesn't. It enhances their case and simplifies their ability to clearly oppose ACA without the distractions having to "solve" the lack of subsidies problem would present.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy

You need to vote for me to stop the filthy rethuglickkkkkkkkans from seizing power and usurping the SCOTUS! If they win, they will end the subsidies. Would i lie to you?
Vote for me! And send me piles of money.

Posted by: Hillarity wipes her ass with trumpetdaddy's drivel at June 25, 2015 11:38 AM (Spluw)

654 Less that $100 dollars a month insurance for millions? Why can't I get that price?

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 11:38 AM (1BQGO)

655 I dont know, the socialist healthcare systems in Europe seem to linger for more than half a century now.
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That would be because the didn't have to spend on defense.

ISIS advances; they will be in Turkey by the end of the year.

In two years, they will have killed more than 1,000 people in Europe.

Other danger arise.

Russia will offer her protection whether it is wanted or not.

China must move to keep her people distracted.

When the strike comes on the United States--from whatever source--will you rally to the flag?

Do you still feel loyalty to this government, that you will give your blood for it? Bow down to the voices calling you a traitor and a coward for not defending cushioned elite in Washington DC?

When 3,000 of your fellow Americans were killed 14 years ago, did your government rise up and protect you?

Or did they expand their power to rule over you?

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:38 AM (ZvKdv)

656 Roberts has been compromised.

Twice now he has ruled to hide behind the bench with the "we must not legislate, that is for congress" mantra concerning this horrible law.

I think it is quite obvious the man's balls are being held by someone or something else.

Posted by: master of puppets at June 25, 2015 11:39 AM (Ww1dU)

657 I think Hillary should be president (so I'm not voting in 2016). She's so politically stupid she would cause less domestic damage than a GOP progressive like Bush. Let's go full progressive! None of this compassionate conservatism BS that fooled a lot of conservatives once.

And let me know when Bams nationalizes Best Buy ala Maduro. I need a new TV.

Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 11:40 AM (cHuNI)

658
Conservatives can bitch and moan, or they can organize and vote next year.


To elect more Republicans that will immediately screw us over again and again and again.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 25, 2015 11:41 AM (O7MnT)

659 Okay, off dirty sock. Did I miss something about the rule of law is now toilet paper? Well, going long on .223 and 5.56, while I can. Plus need to re-stock 9, Foty, and 45, since the stash is getting low. Just send the Ace o Spades signal when it's time.

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at June 25, 2015 11:41 AM (eObHQ)

660 608 You're sort of right but you're mostly wrong. This law hurts full time employed people the most. The longer this abortion of a law stays on the books, full time workers in America will be a growing minority.

Posted by: Wendy at June 25, 2015 11:42 AM (KydDZ)

661 Oh, now he is claiming everybody that has employer insurance eis paying $1800 less than they would have without Obamacare. Where did he get that lie from, the DNC?

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 25, 2015 11:42 AM (1BQGO)

662 I believe Roberts wife works (or worked for a law firm that has numerous healthcare clients. Can't interrupt the Roberts money gravy train with a ruling against SCOTUScare. I guess the idea of "Conflict of Interest" is a quaint notion of ethics these days, especially in the Roberts household.

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at June 25, 2015 11:47 AM (eObHQ)

663 Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 11:40 AM (cHuNI)

That's if Best Buy survives long enough to be nationalized. They've made it further than I expected after that fiasco over a Christmas a few years ago.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at June 25, 2015 11:48 AM (lJJaE)

664 @661

Riiiiiiiiiight.

I don't know about the numbers, but the coverage is insane.

My dad's employer switched insurance companies, and nearly every doctor my parents use are out of network.

So, they either have to get a bunch of new doctors. Or go through this crazy process where they can get their insurance company to make an exception due to distance/whatever purposes, for every single doctor.

Posted by: TickledPink at June 25, 2015 11:49 AM (RLFFI)

665 I've often wondered if a State had a 90% income tax and a year end good
behavior rebate bonus could they not shield most of their citizens from
paying Fed income taxes?
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I've run that thought too.

Modeled after that fund that all the Alaskans get paid from-- a share of the "revenues" if you will. But, as you say: It's a rebate--not income.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 25, 2015 11:49 AM (ZvKdv)

666 2+2=3
Thank you justice Roberts
Have another seizure

Posted by: Avi at June 25, 2015 11:50 AM (Gx3Fe)

667 One silver lining here: It's going to be a lot of fun reading the dissent.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 25, 2015 11:51 AM (+ttLq)

668 Nice rant, AllenG.

Hope I get a cot in your barracks in the Adult Fun Camps.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 25, 2015 11:53 AM (/Ho8c)

669 we need actual plans.
written out and do-able

we need to be as active as the leftist hordes.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2015 11:54 AM (nqBYe)

670 This stinks and it does sting. But really, did anyone here honestly expect anything other than this?

Posted by: RM at June 25, 2015 11:55 AM (fRppw)

671 i guess the long march through the institutions also included congress, senate, and supremes.

Posted by: willow at June 25, 2015 11:56 AM (nqBYe)

672 "I can't breathe!"

Posted by: Moron Labe at June 25, 2015 11:58 AM (h3yxu)

673 We must deviate from the usual rules of statutory construction when interpreting the 22nd Amendment. While Section 1 states that "[n]o person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," the ratifying States left the term "twice" undefined. We find that as used in the Amendment, the States intended the term to mean "ten times."

Even without the Court's finding of the State's intent, the current President would not be ineligible. The 22nd Amendment clearly states that no person "shall be elected" more than ten times. Because the President continued in office as a result of a general acclamation and not as the product of an election, the 22nd Amendment does not control.

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at June 25, 2015 12:03 PM (4KoRb)

674 662
Jane Roberts was a communications lawyer. She mostly does legal recruiting now.

Meh, big law doesn't exactly work that way. They let their conflicts departments figure out if different matters cause conflicts. They can either provide a means of setting up boundaries to protect clients, or they advise clients to take work to other firms. In some instances if the client provides lucrative work, an attorney take the client and go to another firm.

Posted by: Wendy at June 25, 2015 12:03 PM (KydDZ)

675 Jesus H. Christ, people, get a grip.

Yes, we must still vote Republican, for the sake of the occasional decent court appointment. The next Clarence Thomas will not be appointed by President Shrillary McCankles. Every great once in a while, Republicans appoint a good one. Democrats never, ever do. If we had 9 hard-left justices on SCOTUS we wouldn't be having this sob-fest, we'd already be in the camps.

And yes, we must still support candidates like Flynn. That is how we change what the GOP is: One congressperson, one governor, one dog catcher at a time. Primary the RINOs and replace them with conservatives. Yes, this will take time and effort. And money. Anyone who flounces in with "I will not vote, I will not contribute" -- fuck off.

No, we won't succeed with violent revolution. We can't bring on "the burning times" by applying for welfare.

We need to purge the RINOs from the GOP, electorally. Yeah, it will be hard. Stop your pissing and whining. You're demoralizing your compatriots.

Posted by: Pastafarian at June 25, 2015 12:04 PM (LqrRo)

676 I'm not a legal scholar. I don't even play one on TV. But I see a lot of anger at the GOP over this, and I consider that to be a separate issue. At issue here is a principle that the words written of a law are all the SCOTUS can and should rule on. It is not their place to deign intent. If the congress intended something to be in the law, it should have been written into the law.

That the GOP would have quickly changed the part of the law that needed changing is a political issue, and all the scorn heaped on the GOP would be deserved, at that time.

This ruling is absurd. The original ACA ruling was absurd.
We aren't governed by principles which limit.... anything... anymore.
We are ruled by men with power.
Take from that what you will. My flag comes down today.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 25, 2015 12:08 PM (XmOA9)

677 Idjits The "intent" WAS CLEAR. To force the States to create exchanges which they had the OPTION of doing or not. It wasn't the META-INTENT of passing a new healthcare structure that is the analysis of legislative intent. It was the intent of the TACTIC of having the States picking up the cost of the exchanges. This is pure anti Aristotelian muddled thinking. Freudian wishfulfillment as government policy.

Posted by: Hulugu at June 25, 2015 12:10 PM (VSm85)

678 If things get bad enough, the law will come down. Remember, it took 13 years to repeal Prohibition . . .

Posted by: DynamiteDan at June 25, 2015 12:12 PM (BaDMP)

679 I'm gathering by the MSM editorials that Obama is ready to go to war against Russia, you know, because we have to protect the freedom that we enjoy to say whatever the government allows us to say, live where the government allows us to live ...

All fought by young men who will be put on watch lists as potential terrorists when they get back home

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2015 12:13 PM (GrXXa)

680 The IRS tried to silence dissent. They got caught, but will try again. If anything because they believe their jobs are at stake if Conservatives win. They have a stake in silencing you.

The Rule of Law has officially ended. King v Burwell has now made that certain for future rulings. ("Words no longer have meaning" -Scalia. "We must look to the over all intent" -Roberts. The intent was to strong arm the States and the "stupid American voters" -paraphrasing Gruber

Legislators at various levels introduce measure after measure to infringe on Free Speech (such as climate change/same sex marriage). They are supported by the mob to shame people into silent compliance. Other issues come into play with their success.

Parents are no longer allowed to parent. Kids are taught dependence is good and that the State has ultimate authority. Teachers work to separate the parents' teachings from government endorsed teachings (common core/over protective Child protection services)

The borders are being reduced systematically.

You have no privacy. Your info (read, YOU) may be bought and sold as a commodity. The State routinely ignores its own privacy laws, and creates new programs to circumvent it (Healthcare IT part of the ACA, the government will store all health care records digitally).

The people who collect your taxes are also intimately tied to your healthcare.

The organization that manage communications is trying to silence you by taking more control of your access internet, and your ability to use it as a platform to speak. They have been slowed, but not halted.

Clauses of articles and various amendments are being rendered irrelevant.

Yes we live in interesting times, indeed.

Posted by: observation at June 25, 2015 12:15 PM (jJn7d)

681 It's kind of hard to make this post, when words don't mean anything anymore. So picture monkey dung flung on your screen.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2015 12:21 PM (2mC6G)

682 Next law: "President can do pretty much whatever he wants with regard to [fill in the blank]"

I mean it's stupid to write a bunch of stuff that doesn't really matter.

Posted by: OCBill at June 25, 2015 12:25 PM (cPg42)

683
Look around your local area. Join clubs likely to have like minded people. Gun clubs, hunting clubs. Learn martial arts, learn how to make things you might need. Stock up on books about useful skills, plumbing, electricity, gardening, wilderness medicine. I am not kidding. Teach your wife and kids how to shoot if they don't know already. Lighten up your possessions. All that shi* in the basement isn't doing you any good, sell it on ebay you won't be able to pack it when you have to move quickly later. Buy durable goods that are tradeable and lightweight ie guns, ammo, medicine. If you take medicine see if you can get several months supply.
If you are gonna have kids, well, learn to pray if you don't already.
Second look at Peruvia's immigration laws in order.

Posted by: Simplemind at June 25, 2015 12:28 PM (5vV+V)

684
Speaking of doctors. There's no friggin way even if there was money to pay for it thatthere are going to be enough doctors to go around. Ya'll will be seein' a nurse if you are lucky, and she'll be working off a flowchart mandated by the Gov't.Average Life expectancygonna take a nose dive.
Solves a lot of budgetary/political problems doesn't it Boehner?

Posted by: Simplemind at June 25, 2015 12:33 PM (5vV+V)

685 Shall we start a pool as to when Obamacare goes belly up?

Posted by: burt at June 25, 2015 12:36 PM (ls8AU)

686 The republic is dead, and Roberts is the Brutus who stuck in the two final daggers.

Fuck you, John Roberts, you spineless fucking coward.

Posted by: thirteen28 at June 25, 2015 12:39 PM (ILfVM)

687 It really is "Tree of Liberty" time.

Posted by: Sam In VA at June 25, 2015 12:40 PM (FcHky)

688 678 if things get bad enough, the law will come down. Remember, it took 13 years to repeal Prohibition . . .
That only applies to drugs like Marry Jane.

Posted by: burt at June 25, 2015 12:45 PM (ls8AU)

689 This decision is the ultimate in the "they meant well" excuse always given to liberals.

The rule of law means nothing.

Posted by: pj at June 25, 2015 12:47 PM (cHuNI)

690 At least I don't have children.

For those of you that do.. remember what your ancestors did: when things got bad in the Old Country, they left.

Your kids can leave.

As for the rest of us... it's harder.

/RIP USA

Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at June 25, 2015 12:53 PM (GwjEG)

691 #37 - agree

Anything aside from an Article V convention or SECESSION is just pissing into the wind.

Posted by: Reggie 1971 at June 25, 2015 12:55 PM (7oIvj)

692 I would be careful of what your sayin' you'all... See those funny little letters after your name? What do those mean? You think it doesn't matter? Look at Reason Mag.. Is it such a reach that it could be here next?

Posted by: catman at June 25, 2015 12:57 PM (suSQi)

693 Obamacare was designed to go "belly up" The designers say so.. It is a stepping stone to nationalized health care.. It always was..

Posted by: catman at June 25, 2015 12:59 PM (suSQi)

694 Limbaugh just said that there is supposedly an article claiming the Republicans will fight tooth and nail to take down Obumblecare. I hope this is a snarky joke, because if they are seriously thinking that we believe any of their lies, they are even more delusional than we thought. We are used to the Republicans and Democrats saying fuck you wing nuts, but now the Sulremes are going the same route. I hope the idiots that voted for Obumbles twice are really proud of themselves. Sadly, they probably are.

Posted by: MacGuffin at June 25, 2015 01:05 PM (6QHER)

695 Not that it still wouldn't have won, but I'm sure they're still hanging the illegal adoption of Roberts' Irish kids over his head.

Posted by: Jaimo at June 25, 2015 01:06 PM (9U1OG)

696 DynamiteDan, I have no doubt that ObamaCare will fail.

But I can't quite picture a scenario where it's replaced with the free market. Hell, we haven't had a free market in medicine for...what, 50 or 60 years?

Once insuring everyone, regardless of pre-existing condition, inevitably bends the cost curve up (which it must, of course -- imagine what your car insurance would cost if the insurance company wasn't allowed to ask you how many tickets or accidents you've had), and once they get rid of all grandfathered "transitional" plans and force them into ACA-compliant plans (which they're scheduled to do in 2016, but they'll delay it a year, after the elections), the shit will hit the fan and the whole thing will collapse.

But then what? They will have driven the cost of medical care even higher than it is now; they will have driven independent GPs out of practice and into retirement, so supply will be diminished. At that point, I'd guess we'll all gladly embrace single-payer.

Which was the plan all along.

Posted by: Pastafarian at June 25, 2015 01:07 PM (LqrRo)

697 "Roberts has been clear in previous opinions that he isn't going to use
the Court to save the people from their electoral choices."


Apparently he did with this ruling

He allowed an executive branch regulation defy a clearly written law. His whole reasoning this time is that the healthcare system will be so screwed up without the illegal executive regulation that the intent must have been different.

Posted by: Ken at June 25, 2015 01:12 PM (LXJ1e)

698 Iwish I could say I saw it coming, but hope springs eternal. . . . until today.
Stop listening to anything they say, because it's all lies, lies, and now, officially, from the Supreme Court, a ruling that declares that wordsmean anything you want. Given their love of stare decisis, that means it's over for the USA from now on, as they can rewrite "intent" of any law that comes before them.
Welcome to the new nation, and its name is1984.

Posted by: Biblio at June 25, 2015 01:30 PM (7o8VY)

699 Shit written down doesn't mean what it clearly says....great. Is it too early to start drinking?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 25, 2015 01:31 PM (EzgxV)

700 Takeaways:

Another nail in the coffin of the "Supreme Court appointees matter so TeamGOP" argument.

Article V Supporters: SCOTUS and all lower judges need to be term-limited and forever barred from acting as mediators, arbitrators, lobbyists or otherwise having even the appearance of impropriety/bias/conflicting interests after they've served as a judge. Judge needs to be a career capper or a career track in and of itself - no switching hats to get the private gravy which prospects might further enhance your existing political or other biases. Accountability must be introduced into the judicial decision-making process, with parties having standing to bring suit or otherwise to scrutinize the judge's potential conflicts of interest, their contacts and communications during the decision making process, and to enforce discipline - by a jury, not a peer/Congressional vote - on judges who cross the line of impropriety in that process (Judge Walker's refusal to recuse himself in the CA Prop 8 case comes to mind).

An independent judiciary is an unaccountable judiciary, and with the rabid politicization and overreach into areas 19th century judges feared to tread, the risk/reward ratio of judicial accountability has shifted since John Adams advocated for our present lifetime appointed Star Chamber system. If they won't self-police, we need to police them.

The guys already kowtow to "public opinion" (as expressed by the media and their 20+% prog base, not the actual public), so all "independence" is doing is letting them grease the slippery slopes for the progs without accountability.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 25, 2015 01:49 PM (WIOql)

701 For any political office, the amount of power, the scope of that power, the length of your term, and your accountability to the electorate and to oversight all have to be balanced.

For SCOTUS and lower judges alike, this is the present "balance" : lifetime tenure, no electoral accountability and almost no oversight, and the ability to essentially write legislation from the bench and make orders which will almost certainly be implemented by executive authority.

This needs to change. In the first 100+ years, judges voluntarily limited their activities, mitigating these concerns. Not so much in the era of "active, progressive, take-charge" government.


Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 25, 2015 01:54 PM (WIOql)

702 See, this is exactly the kind of shit that won't happen in the Independent Republic of Greater Texas.

Face it, DC sucks the souls out of people faster than it sucks taxes out of the nation.

Posted by: TallDave at June 25, 2015 02:01 PM (/s1LA)

703 "We need to purge the RINOs from the GOP, electorally."

That will take longer, with less results, than a third party. Our future conservative and libertarian leaders will either be corrupted and co-opted in the GOP or our resources will be spent for false-flag candidates (see Paul Ryan, Ayotte, etc...).

Better a third party to gauge our real strength in numbers or lack thereof, with better message integrity, discipline and branding, wielding power as a pivot point like minor parties do in parliamentary systems.

From what I've seen of some GOPers like Flynn, Amash, Gomert and a few others, I'd welcome them. I'm taking an "if we build it they will come" approach to existing pols, but I think we'll find our best leaders in building the party, ground up.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 25, 2015 02:03 PM (WIOql)

704 The court ruled today that a law is nothing more than a set of goals and aspirations. The text and intent quite literally do not matter. They did nothing short of endorse rule by fiat.


Posted by: Thatch at June 25, 2015 02:14 PM (pBZp4)

705 @5: "HIS LEGACY!"

Who? Obama, or Dubya - the guy who gave us Roberts?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 25, 2015 02:47 PM (amQXf)

706 Brattleboro wants to thank Presdent oblama and the Suprime Court for saving our free healthcare. Thank You Sir and we love you......

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at June 25, 2015 02:56 PM (lNSdJ)

707 Next time I'm in DC I should borrow a custom of mourning and set a stone on the steps of SCOTUS. I visited. I remember. RIP Liberty. And if on a later trip my stone has become a cairn, I'll know I do not grieve alone.

Posted by: Spice at June 25, 2015 03:05 PM (8PqRA)

708 KING ARTHUR:
Each evening, from December to December,
Before you fall asleep upon your cot,
Think back on all the tales that you remember
Of Camelot.

Ask every person if he's heard the story,
And tell it strong and clear if he has not:
That once there was a fleeting wisp of glory
Called Camelot.

CHORUS:
Camelot! Camelot!
I know it gives a person pause,
But in Camelot, Camelot,
Those were the legal laws.

KING ARTHUR:
Where once it never rained til after sundown,
By eight a.m. the morning fog had flown . . .
Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief, shining moment . . .
That was known as Camelot!

(Richard Burton in the 1960 Broadway cast recording): http://tinyurl.com/o22r4el

Posted by: Beverly at June 25, 2015 03:21 PM (MC5dk)

709 We seriously need to game the best ways to abuse the system without breaking the law or going bankrupt.

I want to Go Galt by BLEEDING THE SYSTEM every chance I get. How do I do that?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at June 25, 2015 03:23 PM (xeeHA)

710 #221 "Funny how States' Rights and Civil War history is being "outlawed" at the same time as all this shit. Funny."

Yep. Funny about that.

Posted by: Beverly at June 25, 2015 03:41 PM (MC5dk)

711 Lol. You losers are still irrelevant.

I love the taste of RWNJ tears

Posted by: Harold at June 25, 2015 03:51 PM (/rmUU)

712 I still love -- and mourn -- AMERICA.

But what we have now? This ain't America any more, my friends: it's an alien viral entity that has bored into America's nucleus and injected its own foul DNA.

So what do we do? We Christians have a model on how to live and die under an Emperor Nero. I hope our non-Christian friends can find a way to hold fast.

From circa three thousand years ago: "De Profundis."

"Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord,
Lord, hear my voice; let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.
If thou, Lord, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou may be feared.

I wait for the Lord, my soul does wait, and in his word do I hope.
My soul waits for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.

Let Israel hope for the Lord, for with the Lord there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities."

We've been here before, and we'll be here again, until his coming again in glory to judge both the quick and the dead. What we need is a new Great Awakening.

Posted by: Beverly at June 25, 2015 03:53 PM (MC5dk)

713 I understand the ruling; but I still have confusion on this topic.

Yes, that part can't stand as the "Affordable Care Act" was designed to provide affordable care, and couldn't with that provision.

My question. Why bother writing 800+ page laws?
SCOTUS has ruled it is the Judiciary's job to figure out how to make a law actually work; and to change it as needed.

The legislature should simply write 3-4 sentences outlining the goals; and have the Judiciary make the actual specific details and change those as needed.

That's what the SCOTUS just ruled is the proper method; why is the Legislature still trying to write 800+ page laws?

Paragraphs written on a cocktail napkin; that's all the legislature should be doing. Everything else is the province of the Judiciary. Right?

Posted by: gekkobear at June 25, 2015 04:05 PM (kq7Of)

714 Republicans...

What are they good for?

Absolutely nothin'!

I'm done with the party and politics. If ... as in Canada ... our curent collection of cheese-eating shitheels is ever replaced with a genuine Conservative Party, I'll be back. Until then, stop wasting my time.

Posted by: Pops53 at June 25, 2015 04:56 PM (PVKnK)

715 #43
Burn it down.

Scatter the stones.

Salt the earth where it stood.
And have a shot of tequila or two, three....

I got nothing.

Posted by: DefendUSA at June 25, 2015 06:28 PM (nAHMK)

716 I'll quote King George VI in "The King's Speech":

Fuck fuck fuck fuckety fuck shit fuck.

On the other hand, did we really expect any other outcome?

Still. Fuck.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at June 25, 2015 06:52 PM (AcTdG)

717 Chief Justice Roberts is a despicable human being. He is a piece of fecal matter. Decades from now as people discuss the collapse of the once great United States, his name will feature prominently in the tragic tale.

How this man sleeps at night is a complete mystery to me. Roberts, perhaps more than anyone else, was the one man that had the power to keep us from going utterly over the cliff. Instead, he has enthusiastically embraced Obama's agenda. The democrats must have some serious dirt on Roberts - that or he really is just evil to the core.

Every time I see a pic of his smiling face I think of a boot stomping on a human face forever and cringe. He's smiling because he is one of those wearing the boot.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at June 25, 2015 09:54 PM (BCTRd)

718 In a two-party system, the only thing a third-party gets you is one-party rule. The only way forward is to remake the Republican Party. Running some Kamikaze third party will simply split the moderate to right-wing vote and assure electoral victory for Democrats in perpetuity. Honestly, it's not rocket surgery.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 26, 2015 02:16 AM (Rtyzj)

719 On a side note, Scalia has one helluva zinger in his dissent when he said, "We should start calling this law SCOTUScare."

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 26, 2015 02:19 AM (Rtyzj)

720 I read both the majority decision and the dissent. Scalia has not only prevailed over Roberts and the majority, he has deeply embarrassed them. He has shown them to be utter cravens who have sacrificed their impartiality and their honor to provide an unlawful outcome.

I hold Scalia in great honor. He is a national treasure, as are Alito and Thomas. The majority, however, are faithless curs who deserve the rough edge of every honest man's tongue and the back of every decent man's hand.
May God damn those who voted for this decision to endless torment in Hell.

Posted by: mac at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (ilMXv)

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