Viral Catcall Video Sets Left Into Internal Purge Mode

Allah's "Quotes of the Day" on this video were pretty good, this one especially.

My own take on this was "This has nothing to do with me." This is a fight between two factions of the leftist coalition -- white feminist women and black and hispanic males.

I think the woman was indeed harassed at several points in the video, but then, I have been repeatedly instructed that I am to never criticize any historically-oppressed minority's culture, and I'm also not permitted to have an opinion on anything that vaguely Affects Women's Health, Well-Being, or Dreams, so I am left without any voice here.

(I suppose that the video should be taken as an indictment of the Designated Villain in all social dysfunctions, that is to say, White Males. But as almost no White Males appear in the video, I decline to accept that indictment.)

The left will just have to resolve this feud among its constituent members itself.

And they are indeed in a bit of a feud, Charles C.W. Cooke report.


As it has grown in popularity, the video has been transformed into a blank canvas, onto which America’s brave advocates of hyphenated-justice have sought to project their favored social theories. Evidently unwilling to let the spot stand on its own, Purdue’s Roxanne Gay wrote sadly that "it's difficult and uncomfortable to admit that we have to talk about race/class/gender/sexuality/ability/etc, all at once." Alas, she was not alone. Soon, the claims of "sexism" had been joined by accusations of "racism" and of "classism"” Hollaback had been forced to acknowledge that it had upset the more delicate among us, and those who had celebrated the video had been denounced as unreconstructed bigots. By this process was its message diluted and appropriated, the country's most prominent peddlers of grievance and discord electing to squabble and bicker over its meaning, and to strip it of its value in favor of their own, fringe fixations.

"The fact that the video chooses to showcase the experience of a white woman experiencing harassment almost exclusively at the hands of black and Latino men," Brooklyn Magazine’s Kristin Iverson proposed earlier this week, "is a pretty clear indication of who the audience for this video is supposed to be, namely, those who seek to protect and defend innocent white women, aka the already existing societal power structure." This theme was picked up in more explicit terms elsewhere, the less direct references to the "power structure" quickly giving way to overt accusations of white supremacy. "Thousands of satisfied racists are sharing that viral catcalling video," griped Lindy West at the Daily Dot, lamenting that its creators had imposed "manipulative, specific, politicized constraints on the issue of street harassment" and thereby permitted "the bulk of the audience to divorce themselves from the problem."

To be honest, I have "divorced myself from the problem," as neither I nor anyone in my cohort (that is, anyone I could be reasonably expected to socially chide into behaving better) does this.

Ever.

I've actually never seen it.

Yesterday, the Root's Dion Rabouin dispensed with euphemism entirely, confirming that "some of the video’s intentional choices seem to play on the Birth of a Nation trope that white women simply aren't safe from sex-crazed black and brown men." How that’s for a thumb in the eye for the millions who shared the spot on their Facebook pages?

I think there are actually some issues here worth discussing, such as different cultures' differing opinions on how forward men can/should be with strange women. We all have heard, of course, that some men in foreign countries are quite forward, for example. Mediterranean countries, largely, though not exclusively.

We could talk about whether or not it's fair or right for the dominant culture -- which is a liberal, college-educated urban-oriented Northern-European White culture -- to impose its own mores on less-powerful undercultures.

We could discuss whether it's entirely fair of women to expect that only attractive men will express interest in them.

We could talk about these things, but we can't talk about these things, because we live in a world of Puritan Repressiveness and Offense-Taking.

We cannot have any intelligent conversations whatsoever. We do not have discussions; we have Coordinated Group Accusations. We also have a lot of Coordinated Hysteria and Scalp-Hunting.

So we can't talk about any of these things. The penalty for venturing an opinion that someone else disagrees with is potentially career-ending.

So I really have nothing at all to say.

These people made this world, in which there is no discussion, only accusation; in which there is no search for truth, only imposition of consequences; in which there is no thought, only political campaigning and recruitment of persons for purposes of ritualized hazing.

I read a good piece by David French on Obama's insult of Netanyahu. I think it states things well.

French states that the viciously trivial mode of college campus invective has infected foreign policy discussions; I would expand that and say it's infected every mode of discourse.

For those who've lived under a rock for the past four-plus decades, the American academy has been characterized by two prime impulses: one substantive, the other stylistic. First, there's the substantive claim that the problems of the world can largely -- if not entirely -- be traced back to America's sins and the sins of our Western allies, most notably Israel. These sins have caused the peoples of the world to accumulate a long list of 'legitimate grievances,' and the problem of anti-American or anti-Israeli violence is therefore best dealt with by dealing with the underlying grievance...

Next, there's the sophomoric, malicious style of campus rhetoric, where stigma is the preferred method of argument. It's hard to overstate the propensity towards name-calling even of "elite" academics, and the culture of the academy is one where groupthink is enforced and reinforced through vicious rhetoric. Their opponents can't be merely wrong. Instead they are racist, bigoted, homophobic, or -- despite professed love of the disabled -- "Aspergery." The arrogance is overwhelming, and the fake tough-guy posture of name-calling elitists is laughable to everyone but themselves.

So this is a particularly nasty dispute between the stigma-flinging, groupthink-enforcement goonsquads of leftist identity politics; I say fuck 'em all, and let them destroy each other with their grotesque tactics.

I'll let the people who live for Identity Politics Attacks & Recriminations do what they do best.

I'll be over here, completely ignoring it all, waiting for the survivors to announce themselves.


Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM




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1 There's a reason she's being harassed. That's one fine piece of woman.

Posted by: Bob Beckel at October 31, 2014 05:33 PM (HstNY)

2 meh. a 5, maybe six if yer really, really hankering for a Roll in the Hay, as the Old Folks used to say

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at October 31, 2014 05:34 PM (8CdUx)

3 she seems to have a little butter on her face.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:34 PM (/FnUH)

4 Very few people are interested in truth anymore.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (3B+O8)

5 I would debate whether each of these instances of "harassment" truly rise to that level.

I submit that saying hello to an attractive woman does not constitute harassment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (Zu3d9)

6 okay, maybe a 7 if yer experiencing a drought, as the desert people say

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (8CdUx)

7 >>> I would debate whether each of these instances of "harassment" truly rise to that level.

the guys walking with her (or right behind her) seemed pretty harassy.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (/FnUH)

8 Ace a modest suggestion....?

Take out the hobojerky and silently watch...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (/4AZU)

9 Here's my earlier comment on this topic:

This video has to be the biggest beyond-parody "own goal" self-immolation PR disaster of the year so far.

In a lame attempt to make a point about purported sexual harassment, they ended up instead proving only one of two possible points:

1. Black (and New-Yor-Rican) men are sexist pigs, but white men are polite -- thereby aggravating existing racial stereotyping by the people seeing the video; OR (or should I say AND/OR)
2. The filmmakers are a bunch of racists, a fact which trumps their feminism.

So, they just either declared themselves racists in public, or unwittingly proved that the "war on women" is being waged by minorities -- black men in particular.

So, filmmakers: which do you choose? Option 1? Or 2?

Or how about a little of both?

Do they have a "Darwin Award" medal in the Culture Wars?

Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 05:36 PM (K4YiS)

10 To be honest, I have "divorced myself from the problem," as neither I nor anyone in my cohort (that is, anyone I could be reasonably expected to socially chide into behaving better) does this.

Ever.


Exactly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:36 PM (IXrOn)

11 "These people made this world, in which there is no discussion, only accusation; in which there is no search for truth, only imposition of consequences; in which there is no thought, only political campaigning and recruitment of persons for purposes of ritualized hazing."


Very well put, Ace.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 05:36 PM (3B+O8)

12 So, I'm a male chauvinist pig because I'm a male. Is that it? Fine Sugar Tits. Hurry up with my sammich. And Sweet Pea, make sure the beer is cold this time.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 05:36 PM (5ic5a)

13 We all have heard, of course, that some men in foreign countries are quite forward, for example.

aka: My trip to Italy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (IXrOn)

14 These males should show some class. Why don't they act like the left's most beloved ex-pres and drop trou and ask her to kiss it.

Posted by: Bob at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (fVGlW)

15 You think that's bad? Try speaking on an American college campus.

Posted by: Ayaan Hirsi Ali at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (ppaKI)

16 she seems to have a little butter on her face.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:34 PM (/FnUH)

You looked at her face?

She was chosen because she has a nice rack and curvy hips.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (Zu3d9)

17 Heh. I'd hit it.

Posted by: Bob Filner, Graduate, Encounter Groups of Cleveland, Inc. at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (pbr7X)

18 I love it when Red theology encounters an insoluble conundrum. This one is sort of like a Commie version of rock-paper-scissors between pressure groups. The pity is that they can't all lose.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (SLea8)

19 Live by the DIVERSITY RAINBOW COALITION, then die by it when disparate factions quarrel.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Who Just Voted for TWO Conservative Senators! at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (kXoT0)

20 Why wait for the survivors....can't we just hit them with AtC's flamethrower when they emerge?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (OWjjx)

21 In Peruvia, it's rude not to harass a female pedestrian. Especially if she has such huge elbows.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2014 05:38 PM (iLyyg)

22 Yes, being offended is like checking with your flashlight app to see who is sucking your cock.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 31, 2014 05:38 PM (Y92Nd)

23 Give them all scissors and lock them in a small room.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 31, 2014 05:39 PM (pbr7X)

24 "(I suppose that the video should be taken as an indictment of the
Designated Villain in all social dysfunctions, that is to say, White
Males. But as almost no White Males appear in the video, I decline to
accept that indictment.)"

It was incredibly funny after the videographers suddenly realized they had inadvertently stuck their heads into the identity-politics hornets' nest.

Wait a minute, nearly all the men shown behaving in rude and frightening ways here are black and Hispanic. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU IMPLYING HERE?!?!?!?! ARE YOU SENDING SOME SORT OF A RAYCISS ELEVENTY DOGWHISTLE MESSAGE?!?!?!

What followed were frantic assurances that, why yes, of course, there had been _plenty_ of cases of white men behaving crudely and making unwelcome advances. A ton of them! Except, um, the video was washed out or the sound had been obscured. So they couldn't be included.

And the dog ate their homework. Seriously! Honestly!

Posted by: torquewrench at October 31, 2014 05:39 PM (noWW6)

25 20 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:37 PM (OWjjx)

Neutron bomb baby....

why risk the infrastructure?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:39 PM (/4AZU)

26 I don't think I've ever seen anyone I know do this. Then again I don't hang with too many thugs.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

27 Fun Fact : The Wolf Whistle is actually named after Wolf Blitzer.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (iLyyg)

28 They purposely chose a white chick with a Mix-a-Lot-worthy BIG TUSH-y ASS so as to appeal the butt-lovin's dusky demographic.

That choice alone could be deemed racist.

Why oh why chose the kind fo body black men love for this experiment? Hmmmm?

Was this choice intentional, to entrap black men, or was it simply unconscious racism?

And if they had chosen a heroin-chic skinny blond model-type, would the white hipsters have harassed her?

Or did the filmmakers know that they'd get a lot less harassment action by appealing to white men, so they purposely enticed black men?

INQUIRING MINDS DEMAND TO KNOW!

Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (K4YiS)

29 We could discuss whether it's entirely fair of women to expect that only attractive men will express interest in them.

You could say how they express interest....

I already spoke of this yesterday and earlier today.

Some guy, riding by on a bike says Looking good, baby... while I was pumping gas in my car. But, it was creepy.

I think of another case, where I had just come out of a wake, dressed in a somber suit, and suede pumps, and it was very snowy and icy out. My husband went to get the car so I wouldn't have to tackle the ice, or ruin my suede. A man came up to me, and asked if I needed an arm to my car.

Big difference.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (IXrOn)

30 LOL; just had 15 kids hit at once.

Posted by: Vic at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (u9gzs)

31 blue on blue cat fight. only thing to do is pop the kettle corn and pull up a comfy chair.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (dkExz)

32 They said there were white men who harassed her, but inconveniently it always seemed to happen out of camera range or when a noise occurred.

Of course, they could have used subtitles for the poor audio clips.

You know. Like they did with all the other men.

Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Patrick at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (kFjTj)

33 Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:35 PM (/FnUH)

Agreed. But some were mild.

I am not condoning the behavior...it mortifies me. If I observed my male brat doing that I would use force to dissuade him from doing it again.

Just an observation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (Zu3d9)

34 So I really have nothing at all to say.


haha

I love when you have nothing to say.

It says so much.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (IXrOn)

35 These sexist actions would stop if African Americans were given reparations and the Latino community was given Amnesty.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (OWjjx)

36 You could have a video where 10 black men beat the shit out of a white guy, then sign and affidavit saying yes we beat him up ONLY because he's white, and still the professional left would turn it around and accuse the white guy of racism.

They are fucking insane. Period.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (0LHZx)

37 21 In Peruvia, it's rude not to harass a female pedestrian.

-------

You haven't really been harassed until you've been harassed with a vuvuzela.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (pbr7X)

38
I'm going with the video maker is racist.... because I can find flimsy or more evidence of it by her not walking in white neighborhoods.... but mostly because its fun.... raaaaacist.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (1nB6R)

39 just had 15 kids hit at once.


I usually have to take a break between kid 2 and kid 3.

Posted by: Mohammed at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (iLyyg)

40 Just a thought: I wonder if the guys who kept following her were doing so because they were thinking, "Wow, she hasn't told me off yet?"

Posted by: Vendette at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (yvrbO)

41 f white men behaving crudely and making unwelcome advances. A ton of them! Except, um, the video was washed out or the sound had been obscured. So they couldn't be included.
---------

They also said the white guys said things "in passing". Whatever that means.

Posted by: Adam at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (HstNY)

42 37 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (pbr7X)

in the ear....literally

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (/4AZU)

43 And fuck it, 2008 showed that minority men can act with no class and still get a pass from women, especially single, fat, dumpy ones with low expectations. Why else do you think Lena Oldham's a role model? They're desperate skanks and are lucky gangbangers catcall at them. I'm offended when they do it in the same way as when someone compares me to Drew Barrymore or Elizabeth Moss i.e. fat 'n easy.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (Y92Nd)

44 I say fuck 'em all, and let them destroy each other with their grotesque tactics.

it's just that it effects our children
that hurts

oh well, need to go build my pizza

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (IXrOn)

45 But as almost no White Males appear in the video, I decline to accept that indictment.

Yeah, but they were silent but thinking they wanted to rape-rape the woman. We can all agree that is the higher offense.

Posted by: Radical Feminist at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (zxQ4h)

46 Harassment my ass. This was taken in New York. New York is full of too many people packed in too tightly and they are loud, rude and obnoxious as a group. Walk around showing off your assets and then be surprised when low-lifes notice? Good luck with that.

Next time, take a taxi. Then you won' t have to be exposed to the seamy side of town.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (g+qqc)

47 White men don't have to hang out. They're your boss.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (Y92Nd)

48 I think of another case, where I had just come out of a wake, dressed in a somber suit, and suede pumps,

-------

I read "wake" as "cake." Actually, it works better that way.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (pbr7X)

49
oh well, need to go build my pizza


Keep it simple. Keep it thin.

Posted by: Gandalf at October 31, 2014 05:43 PM (iLyyg)

50 Anybody else got a lurking suspicion that a bunch of elections are about to get stolen?

Maybe that's the real October Surprise. It happens in November this year.

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (OLFrt)

51 Ace,

This won't amount to much on the Left. Doublethink insures that they will blame the designated enemy: White cis-hetero males (AKA, the "Kyriarchy").

They believe that any such conflicts (such as White women vs. non-White men) is due to those "Kyriarchs" instituting oppression via intersectional hierarchies.

In other words, they get black men to oppress White women and White women to oppress men in order to have the non-"Kyriarchs" oppress themselves in some nefarious tyrannical plot.

More:

Kyriarchy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
and
http://tinyurl.com/bnh6qnd

Intersectionality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Posted by: The Intersectional Hat at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (lN8KC)

52 I'm confused by these crybaby women who think the world owes them something.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (g+qqc)

53 >>>She was chosen because she has a nice rack and curvy hips.

really? I didn't notice that.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (/FnUH)

54 Hey babe, them thighs need at least another 100 miles.

Posted by: wth - knows he's not going to get any at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (wAQA5)

55 I'll be over here making moar popcorn.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (rt3TY)

56 I'm also confused by anyone who wants to live in a city where everything is paved and you can smell the open sewers and piss in the subway.

But that's just me.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)

57 50 Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (OLFrt)

Al Wa-Po may have been shaking its ass at us on illegals voting....

if so the country is as gone as Mexifornia

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (/4AZU)

58 Hey babe, where's the wide load sign?

Posted by: wth - knows he's not going to get any at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (wAQA5)

59 @53...but if she had tan lines it would not have escaped your eagle eye.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (OWjjx)

60 I didn't notice that.

It's NY. You were busy looking at the Trash piles she walked past.


Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (iLyyg)

61 Ace sez:

" I say fuck 'em all, and let them destroy each other with their grotesque tactics."

I disagree.

We must POUR GASOLINE ON THE FIRE to turn the flagration into a massive pyre of LEFTIST SELF-IMMOLATION!

Get out the whip and whip up that hysteria!

White women are racists!

Black men are grotesque sex-animals -- according to the racist white liberals framing them!

Yeah baby.

Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (K4YiS)

62 53 Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (/FnUH)


I was impressed by her wrists though...

very nice wrists

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (/4AZU)

63 That was a nice little bit of Friday evening blogging there ace.


Good said.

Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (MDgS8)

64 I haven't seen the video, only minor clips here and there, but dayam, it sure seems like it backfired on the videographers. OTOH, having a curvacious young starlet being wolf whistled by construction workers was a staple in early movies.

Posted by: Old Blue - Need MOAR Beer at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (vVSOO)

65 >>>arassment my ass. This was taken in New York. New York is full of too many people packed in too tightly and they are loud, rude and obnoxious as a group. Walk around showing off your assets and then be surprised when low-lifes notice? Good luck with that.

she wasn't really "showing off her assets." She's a curvy girl. These curves will always be present.

She was not dressed in a particularly sexy way.

Curvy girls are *always* sort of sexy because you always see the curves but you can't blame that on them.

She didn't do anything in particular to signal sexual availability. She's not wearing nightclub clothing. She's wearing standard hipster/student faux-proletariat clothing.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (/FnUH)

66 By some strange coincidence, my sister - who lives in Utah - just posted on Facebook roughly ten minutes ago, complaining about some guy who whistled at her as she arrived at work.

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (UWFpX)

67 61 Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 05:46 PM (K4YiS)

Scratch one flat top....

you know I love you Zombie....

in a purely platonic sense but I do love you

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (/4AZU)

68
I don't witness this behavior here on the west coast, at all.

So she supposedly got over 100 cat calls etc, but the white guys were out of camera range etc ?

What kind of odds are working there ?

Check out the Black marriage rate, any correlation on how they treat women ?

you decide

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (6/J77)

69 I'm offended when they do it in the same way as when someone compares me to Drew Barrymore or Elizabeth Moss i.e. fat 'n easy.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 31, 2014 05:42 PM (Y92Nd)



So, ah...do you look like either one of them?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (6fyGz)

70 Hey baby, I have a very small penis right here for you, bitch!

Posted by: Hector at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (pbr7X)

71 I never experienced any sort of street harassment. Until I started dating a hot black chick.

Random black dudes on the street don't like hot black chicks dating outside their race. And they aren't shy about letting you know.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (ZPrif)

72 So is there a link to the actual video or just links to people talking about the video?



Posted by: Dang at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (MNq6o)

73 Posted by: The Intersectional Hat at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (lN8KC)


Damn, this is getting complicated. But what I take away from this is 1) everybody's apparently oppressing everybody else, and 2) ultimately, white men are to blame for everything, but that's an eternal verity of the universe.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (SLea8)

74 I saw Manhattan for a long weekend once.

It was awesomely awesome.


To visit. Would not want to live there.

Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (MDgS8)

75 Hey babe, phew is that you or the manhole overflowing?

Posted by: wth - knows he's not going to get any at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (wAQA5)

76 Steven Crowder's wife nailed it on twitter. if the woman in the video was walking next to a more attractive woman who was getting all the attention, she (original, curvy video gal) would be jealous and pissed off

Posted by: the Butcher at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (fUjxW)

77 LOL; just had 15 kids hit at once.
Posted by: Vic at October 31, 2014 05:40 PM (u9gzs)


----------------------------------


Geez, Vic. You don't have to hit all of them. Just the one little shit that screams, "trick or treat".

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (AWcPC)

78
Meh ...

That chic ain't part of my tribe ... so fuck her. Literally. Do it to one of my tribe ... and I start doing shit that makes Ace really uncomfortable.

Not my fault. This is the world the Progs made. Not me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (SJdgi)

79
This sheep is purposely walking by wolves and shocked when the wolves take notice. Not really a surprise.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (1nB6R)

80 Yeah, I'm really shocked by the actions of the less than polite crowd, no really. I'm surprised they weren't cruder or more, shall we say, physically active, with her.

As was said earlier, fuck them all, they created the climate, let them live in it.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving rope and a tree at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (baiNQ)

81 Check out the Black marriage rate, any correlation on how they treat women ?

you decide

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (6/J77)

But consider the great respect offered women in rap lyrics.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (SLea8)

82 How else are you supposed to proposition a prostitute?

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (DESkV)

83 Video description:

"wearing jeans and a crew neck shirt"

Tight jeans. Tight shirt. Things that signal "look at these".

But men are wrong for noticing.

Logik.

Posted by: Mama AJ, who is mooing and scaring her kids at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (0xTsz)

84
Bowl of popcorn

Ice cold brewski

Barcalounger

Some assembly required

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (TIIx5)

85 80 Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving rope and a tree at October 31, 2014 05:49 PM (baiNQ)

"Chivalry is dead"

//Femynyst


"Yeah you fucking bitch you strangled it for decades and demanded we not save its life"

//Me

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (/4AZU)

86 Hey babe, nice threads, Kmart or yard sale?

Posted by: wth - knows he's not going to get any at October 31, 2014 05:50 PM (wAQA5)

87 Obumbles just told women not to stay home and take care of their children, to put them in daycare instead. Speech in Rhode Island. Maybe he's purposely throwing this election.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (3B+O8)

88
I'm also confused by anyone who wants to live in a city where everything
is paved and you can smell the open sewers and piss in the subway.



But that's just me.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)



*checks nic*

Just wanted to see if I posted that, cause I sure didn't remember it if I did.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (6fyGz)

89 >>>Agreed. But some were mild.

some were mild, yeah, but I do get the annoyance, because while no particular "mild" catcaller would be guilty of any major faux pas, you can see how the weight of so many sexualized remarks in the course of a day would get to somebody.

A woman, I mean.

One point I saw a leftist make that I thought made sense was this: Straight white guys would see the problem if you imagined yourself, a dude, walking through a gauntlet of gay guys, getting sexual bon mots tossed at you.

You'd be kind of pissed off. Strangers would be forcing you to confront decisions you don't even want to think about.

Plus, women are the weaker sex, so this is intimidating, too.

Still, OTOH, I don't see how you can have a law against someone throwing his hat in the ring.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (/FnUH)

90 Will this cause another annoying NFL "no more" PSA....cause those things are just irritating.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (OWjjx)

91 I say fuck 'em all, and let them destroy each other with their grotesque tactics

Amen.

Posted by: Pennywise at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (Dwehj)

92 74 I saw Manhattan for a long weekend once.

It was awesomely awesome.


To visit. Would not want to live there.
Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (MDgS

______________

I lived there for 3 years. I loved it. I was single, no kids, making good money and in my 20s. Couldn't ask for a better place to be.

But living there north of 30 with kids? Not a chance in hell.

Which is why the stereotype of as soon as you have kids, you move to NJ or CT is true.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (0LHZx)

93 @68 I don't witness this behavior here on the west coast, at all.
------------------

I don't think I've ever seen it, either, here in SoCal. But I suspect that certain areas of LA County - specifically the ones with lots of non-citizens where machismo might be important - would see some of it.

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 05:52 PM (UWFpX)

94 >>>"wearing jeans and a crew neck shirt"

Tight jeans. Tight shirt. Things that signal "look at these".

But men are wrong for noticing.

Logik.

..

yeah but... t-shirts don't tend to be baggy.

As for the jeans, yeah, a little tight, but that's how people wear jeans, mostly.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:52 PM (/FnUH)

95 I didn't notice that.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:45 PM (/FnUH)

In the interest of Science! I re-watched the video in 1080HD. She clearly has a significant rack.

And she is walking very aggressively...perhaps to accentuate the bounce of her breasts?

Yes, I am wearing a tinfoil hat. Why do you ask?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:52 PM (Zu3d9)

96 #accidentalrapeisreal

Posted by: Jen Psocki at October 31, 2014 05:53 PM (Dwehj)

97 That back outfit isn't as slimming as she thinks it is.

Posted by: Dang at October 31, 2014 05:53 PM (MNq6o)

98 35 These sexist actions would stop if African Americans were given reparations and the Latino community was given Amnesty.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:41 PM (OWjjx)



That, and if we legalized gay marriage. Oh, and destroyed capitalism.


I'm not sure how either of those would make any difference, but you know they're coming soon.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:53 PM (SLea8)

99 I've never been cat called before but the last time I walked through Atlanta I did have rocks thrown at me. But I'm a white male so no one cares.

Posted by: Adam at October 31, 2014 05:54 PM (HstNY)

100 Did the video maker say where in Manhattan this was filmed? I have a feeling not much of it was on the upper east side.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 05:54 PM (0LHZx)

101 Straight white guys would see the problem if you
imagined yourself, a dude, walking through a gauntlet of gay guys,
getting sexual bon mots tossed at you.



You'd be kind of pissed off. Strangers would be forcing you to confront decisions you don't even want to think about.



Plus, women are the weaker sex, so this is intimidating, too.



Still, OTOH, I don't see how you can have a law against someone throwing his hat in the ring.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (/FnUH)


Not me. I'd be an absolute WHORE.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 31, 2014 05:54 PM (6fyGz)

102 If she's wantin' to rock the casbah, she should take a walk dressed like that down in funky Riyadh Town.

Posted by: The Sultan of Swat at October 31, 2014 05:54 PM (28pxY)

103 95 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:52 PM (Zu3d9)

She was an agent-provocateur sent to tempt the hetero cis-norms....

//Kos Dork Kos

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (/4AZU)

104 >>>Steven Crowder's wife nailed it on twitter. if the woman in the video was walking next to a more attractive woman who was getting all the attention, she (original, curvy video gal) would be jealous and pissed off

this is the obvious objection here: Women don't want an end to all expressions of sexual interest, they just want an end to expressions of sexual interest from guys *below their status in terms of looks or socio-economic class.*

That's something you really can't ask of someone -- you can't ask an ugly guy to just accept that he's ugly, or that he's low-rent, and has no chance with you, and ergo should not deign to speak with you.

That's palpably an aristocratic conceit, the idea that the Lower Orders should Know Their Place.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (/FnUH)

105 I blame Big Popcorn for this video. We're in the run up to a Grievance Bowl match up that will make the Ali Frazier fight look like pat-a-cake.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (SLea8)

106 oh hell...just noticed the "gay guys" thing...think I'll slink away for a while...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (6fyGz)

107 Curvy girls are *always* sort of sexy because you always see the curves but you can't blame that on them.

Hard wired into the male brain is some sort of algorithm that instantaneously computes the ratio of chest and hip size to waist. The formula scales for large women. Once that waist size falls under some percentage, every male notices, unless he's blind.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (zxQ4h)

108 98 Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:53 PM (SLea

Team Jackass-bearers of solution looking desperately for a problem.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (/4AZU)

109 What's most offensive is the low standards of these men. This should be tried again with agood looking woman.

Posted by: Joe C. at October 31, 2014 05:56 PM (xqtAj)

110 she wasn't really "showing off her assets." She's a curvy girl. These curves will always be present.

She was not dressed in a particularly sexy way.

Curvy girls are *always* sort of sexy because you always see the curves but you can't blame that on them.

She didn't do anything in particular to signal sexual availability. She's not wearing nightclub clothing. She's wearing standard hipster/student faux-proletariat clothing.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (/FnUH)

Speaking as a particularly curvy girl myself, bull.

There are ways to dress that are modest, and what she was wearing wasn't it. Any clothes that are form-fitting are that way for a purpose, and it isn't to conceal her assets.

Oh, I know, I'm just a big prude. But fashion being what it is, clothes are close-fitting, and they are that way so that curves will be shown.

Most women's clothes are designed by gay men and fit women who have no breasts or backsides. Consequently, finding clothes that fit properly and don't hug those curves is nearly impossible.

Just because what she is wearing is in fashion, doesn't mean it covers up the goodies.

And so we damn the men who notice?

Most of these catcallers are jackasses, so perhaps we should consider the source.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 05:56 PM (g+qqc)

111 You'd be kind of pissed off. Strangers would be forcing you to confront decisions you don't even want to think about.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:51 PM (/FnUH)

That's a fair point.

I lived in the Bay Area for a long time and that happened to me occasionally in SF. It's annoying, and there was no physical threat implied, unlike for a woman.

I am in no way defending the behavior of these men. It's boorish, and does not belong in a polite society.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:57 PM (Zu3d9)

112 Grievance culture clash!! Absolutely hilarious.

Posted by: Caliban at October 31, 2014 05:57 PM (3GFMN)

113 >>>>And so we damn the men who notice?

Most of these catcallers are jackasses, so perhaps we should consider the source.

...

TCN, I notice every curve in a 300 foot radius.

"Noticing" is not the same as "making lewd, forward remarks to a stranger."

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (/FnUH)

114 Hard wired into the male brain is some sort of
algorithm that instantaneously computes the
ratio of chest and hip size to waist. The formula
scales for large women. Once that waist size
falls under some percentage, every male notices,
unless he's blind.



Breeder or not. Hardwired into the brain. For survival purposes.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (5ic5a)

115 In other words, GGE would wait a bit before he grabbed his phoneb and turned on the flashlight app.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (OWjjx)

116 Iran has an answer.

Purity Police.

Posted by: eman at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (60sIH)

117 Evening all and Happy Spook Night.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (y60YF)

118 CBD, I completely agree with you, but I work 12 hours a day in a corporation, and the words "That's a fair point" make my blood run cold.

Posted by: Caliban at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (3GFMN)

119 Ever seen a chick making sammiches getting harassed? Me neither.

Posted by: flounder at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (sDapq)

120 We cannot have any intelligent conversations whatsoever. We do not have discussions; we have Coordinated Group Accusations. We also have a lot of Coordinated Hysteria and Scalp-Hunting.
***
darn straight.
And I blame straight white males in corporations and elsewhere for fucking bowing to pressure to make this so.
I hope the next GOP president says something along the lines of "no LGBT, minority, or womens study degree holder will get any job in this govt, and that includes ROTC grads"

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (/ggyL)

121 So, are we gonna go over to Little Verde Shitballs and TP their house tonite?

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (RRbuy)

122 I worked with a puerto rican guy from new york for a couple of years. He was always hanging out the truck window cat calling women. He was embarassing, he would not stop. That was the only time I remember seeing it in SoC.al

Posted by: tinfoil baby at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (hqVUe)

123 I lived in the Bay Area for a long time and that
happened to me occasionally in SF.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 05:57 PM (Zu3d9)

Same here.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (SLea8)

124 I blame upbringing, and possibly location. My mother always taught me to respect women, be polite, and to always be a gentleman. Now, I have never been afraid of admiring a beautiful woman, but I would never whistle or catcall said woman. That would embarrass me more than it would the woman, I think. There is much to said about how you are brought up.

Posted by: Old Blue - Need MOAR Beer at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (vVSOO)

125 Didn't someone go through the video and find that really only 20 comments were actual catcalls? The rest were fairly standard greetings?

Posted by: AFlyingSQRL at October 31, 2014 06:00 PM (9zlNp)

126 my take: this is fucking stupid and meaningless. Also, your bodies are not the catcaller's weapons. or something.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:00 PM (/ggyL)

127 TCN, I notice every curve in a 300 foot radius.

"Noticing" is not the same as "making lewd, forward remarks to a stranger."

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (/FnUH)

My point exactly. She could hide the curves, or she could just consider that the idiots making these comments are losers and don't really matter a damn.

You cannot be offended if you refuse to take offense.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (g+qqc)

128 And here is this also. If she did this in OKC, she'd have to go to the one or two projects that we have to get the same result. Any other place in OKC, she'd get noticed but probably not harangued.

Maybe it's just the general behaviour of New Yawkahs.

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (AWcPC)

129 this is the obvious objection here: Women don't want an end to all expressions of sexual interest, they just want an end to expressions of sexual interest from guys *below their status in terms of looks or socio-economic class.*

Posted by: ace


This is a caption I wrote to a photo from a recent "Slut Walk" protest in which a very attractive girl was carrying a sign saying "My short skirt, believe it or not, has nothing to do with you.":

----

"Miss "My Very Existence Affirms the Inevitability of Looksist Appearance Hierarchy" announced to all and sundry, "My short skirt, believe it or not, has nothing to do with you." OK. But then why are you wearing a short skirt (and lipstick and the rest)? So that people don't turn their heads and look at you? In order to make yourself look unappealing? Then who or what does your short skirt have to do with?

Once again, the simplest SlutWalk sign raises the deepest questions. In this case, all that is missing to make everything clear is an emphasis on the final word in her message: "My short skirt, believe it or not, has nothing to do with you." In other words, she's dressing up to attract only those people who are in her league, but not you, you disgusting troll. "



(Photo here:
http://www.zombietime.com/sluts_on_parade_slutwalk_sf_2012/IMG_8333.JPG)

Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (K4YiS)

130 I think it is sad. I wouldn't want any female members of my family walking through that s**t hole.


I saw her in an interview. She cleans up pretty well. She made the point that she kept her mouth shut, eyes straight ahead and tried her best to send out signals that said "not interested." Sadly, that's not enough for some dullards. I don't think it is a race thing, I think it is a class thing.


I used to work with a complete loser. Fat, stupid, reliably smelly, extremely hairy and seemly determined to wave to any female unfortunate enough to catch his gaze. The inevitable "Hey Vaaby!" would always follow. I remember it left such an impression on me, I determined right there and then to never be like that clown.


On the other hand, about what I'd expect in the big city. Most of them are not places I would choose to live in, but that's just me.

Posted by: Lloyd Loar at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (TaO1J)

131 a lot of these guys aren't cat-calling -- they're trying to pick her up.

Which is a different thing. I don't know if a woman can really claim that "No man I don't myself find attractive is permitted to attempt to pick me up."

I know that women would PREFER that kind of world, but there are obvious problems with attempting some kind of "rule" to bring that about.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (/FnUH)

132 Women are like calculus.


The key is to be tangent to the curves.

Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (MDgS8)

133 I am still on old thread slapping MUMR

Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (sj3Ax)

134 FYI:

Soho, East village, Harlem, Times Square, and probably other places.

But a lot of it was Harlem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (Zu3d9)

135 Did someone from the State Dept really call Netanyahu a chickenshit? Who ARE these people?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (3B+O8)

136 Been there, done that. I used to live in Long Beach, CA. Got hit on by dudes repeatedly. Hell, even here in Louisiana I've had a couple of passes made. BTW I'm male.

Ideal? No. But I'm not going to try and get society to shame people for me.

I half suspect this is a bid for attention. Aspiring actress, right?

Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (C6SMr)

137 Didn't someone go through the video and find that really only 20 comments were actual catcalls?
**
yeah, but they only made 77 percent of what the catcallers made while global warming is killing the polar bears and causing hurricanes.
We can't have an intelligent discussion on anything because if you take an opposing view, you want women to die or hate teachers or are anti-intellectual.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (/ggyL)

138 How dare all those Republicans harass that nice young woman!

Posted by: Democratic Beta Male at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (Mrl1e)

139 "...So this is a particularly nasty dispute between the stigma-flinging, groupthink-enforcement goonsquads of leftist identity politics; I say fuck 'em all, and let them destroy each other with their grotesque tactics..."

Money, Ace!

Good writing Ace, as usual.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (WS+CW)

140 Breeder or not. Hardwired into the brain. For survival purposes.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 05:58 PM (5ic5a)


This is my conjecture for long hair on women, and why women want their hair to be lustrous: lustrous hair signifies health, and hence fertility, and long hair shows off that property.
It's not all that different from designing lures for fly fishing, double entendre intended.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:03 PM (SLea8)

141 138 How dare all those Republicans harass that nice young woman!
Posted by: Democratic Beta Male at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (Mrl1e)



Well at least the catcallers had the good breeding not to put the women into binders.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:04 PM (SLea8)

142 Don't these girls know a compliment when they see one?

Posted by: Geraldo at October 31, 2014 06:04 PM (3GFMN)

143 I wonder if she would get the same treatment in less urban, more conservative, less "progressive" areas. No?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 31, 2014 06:04 PM (QCo5R)

144 I trust no one is bringing up the ancient history that one of the driving motives behind U.S. suffragettes was being pissed off that black men were getting the vote before white women. That would be totally uncalled for and needlessly inflammatory.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 31, 2014 06:04 PM (JMCjf)

145 "That's a fair point" make my blood run cold.

Posted by: Caliban at October 31, 2014 05:59 PM (3GFMN)

That's a fair point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 06:04 PM (Zu3d9)

146 this is the obvious objection here: Women don't want an end to all expressions of sexual interest, they just want an end to expressions of sexual interest from guys *below their status in terms of looks or socio-economic class.*
****
this is a result of soft minors in bullshit arts (BA's) giving cookies for saying this kind of bullshit.

oh noes, I got catcalled...after spending 6 years attaining said BA degree being promiscuous.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (/ggyL)

147 Shit,I'm even respectful to strippers.

Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (v5UtH)

148 >>yeah but... t-shirts don't tend to be baggy.

I don't think a woman wears a shirt that tight without meaning to.

>>As for the jeans, yeah, a little tight, but that's how people wear jeans, mostly.

I'm not sure those are jeans; they could be jeggings. They are tight.

I'm not saying she shouldn't wear stuff like that or anything, but I'd bet good money that she would have had fewer comments in a different t-shirt and jeans.

Still some comments, for sure.

I remember back when I was young and slender...summer time, 95 degrees and all the humidity. I was wearing shorts and a tank top in Center City Philly and sweating like crazy while carry groceries home. Some guy yelled out his car window at me. Seriously? Bright red face and sweat don't put you off at all?

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (0xTsz)

149 But a lot of it was Harlem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (Zu3d9)

Unemployed boors hanging around on street corners in Harlem? Imagine.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (SLea8)

150 Ah said "hey baby" once to Monica, but it wasn't out on the street. What's this world coming to?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (3GFMN)

151 The only time I've experienced cat calls is when I spent a summer in central mexico. The guys there were constantly saying things as you walked by, and one time a guy even grabbed my butt. My roommate (another college student) was grabbed and pulled into a bush on her morning run one day (she escaped, thank goodness). On my other trips to Central and South America I did not experience that, for whatever that's worth.

Posted by: not the mama at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (5dxeo)

152 I wonder if she would get the same treatment in less urban, more conservative, less "progressive" areas. No?

She's feel "harassed" because no man would let her open a door for herself.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (4WhSY)

153 105 I blame Big Popcorn for this video.
Posted by: Jay Guevara


Dare I say...threadwinner?

Oh, and I'm stealing "Big Popcorn."

Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (K4YiS)

154 My wish is that both 'factions' kill each other off.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (XzRw1)

155 These are all fair points.

Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (MDgS8)

156 The best part of all is that the left is eating itself over a harassment video that shows very little harassment.

Posted by: Just A Guy at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (CGzAz)

157 Grammie Winger,
I suspect it was John Kerry that called Netanyahu that.

Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (sj3Ax)

158 "No man I don't myself find attractive is permitted to attempt to pick me up."
***
I think the rule is, from what I've seen on FB: "I am smart and I am making an important point."*

* and I will wait until I am 40 to try to get pregnant.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (/ggyL)

159 I don't witness this behavior here on the west coast, at all.

You aren't in the right neighborhoods!

I think it's a cultural thing, like ace said, and I can tell you straight up that you are going to get a lot more catcalling in Hispanic neighborhoods. Black to a certain degree as well, but my experience is that the Latino men are more likely to shout out like that. I'm tall and redheaded, and I think that make its worse. Also, groups of men will do it often times in situations where individual guys probably wouldn't have. Safety in numbers or not wanting to get their man card yanked for not joining in, I don't know.

I will say this; it bothered me a lot when I was a young girl and I am still not crazy about it, but I have also come to the conclusion that most of them are not trying to be assholes, they're just... not shy about letting you know how they feel. And they mean it as a compliment. The Hispanic ladies will just grin right back or cuss right back, depending on the situation. Definitely cultural. You can usually always tell the creeps and the creeps are almost some weird white dude who will fooking follow you all around the bookstore, or some yahoo in Home Depot who seems to magically turn up in every aisle you go to.

Guys mostly don't get how annoying it is, because they'd be flattered in the same situation.

And I didn't think she was inappropriately dressed at all.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (G5aNk)

160 Hard wired into the male brain is some sort of algorithm

*******

Hard wired in their brain?

I think they might be gettin' an override from the man in their pants.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (RJMhd)

161 So she be walkin down that street like her pussy on fire and we don see? We don say nothin? Yo.

And don't call me a racist or a sexist. I ain't neither one.

Posted by: Erowmero at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (go5uR)

162 picking up girls with a boner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQIJkKxPf1E

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (/FnUH)

163 Oh, and i didn't click on any of the video links when they came up, because I think it's a little bit attention whorish to put out a video that basically says "look how smoking hot I am. Guys can't control themselves around me." Barf.

Posted by: not the mama at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (5dxeo)

164 Been there, done that. I used to live in Long Beach, CA. Got hit on by dudes repeatedly. Hell, even here in Louisiana I've had a couple of passes made. BTW I'm male. Ideal? No. But I'm not going to try and get society to shame people for me. I half suspect this is a bid for attention. Aspiring actress, right?
Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:02 PM (C6SMr)


------------------------------------------


Go to Key West, FL. It's a story out of hell for straight guys.

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:07 PM (AWcPC)

165 Did someone from the State Dept really call Netanyahu a chickenshit? Who ARE these people?
Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (3B+O


It was Fredo.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (y60YF)

166 It's disgusting. It's disrespectful. It's barbaric. I say we round these hooligans up and put them in a camp and show them the pain they are causing. Then we castrate them.

Posted by: Samantha Power at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (3GFMN)

167 Hard wired into the male brain is some sort of algorithm that instantaneously computes the ratio of chest and hip size to waist. The formula scales for large women. Once that waist size falls under some percentage, every male notices, unless he's blind.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 31, 2014 05:55 PM (zxQ4h).7 is the magic ratio between hips and waist

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (6/J77)

168 or to put it another way: liberalism is all about self-negations...the constitution is a suicide pact, if you like girls, you're evil...if you're a woman and want kids while still fertile, you're a traitor.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (/ggyL)

169 .7 is the magic ratio between hips and waist

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (6/J77)

170 picking up girls with a boner:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQIJkKxPf1E


I ain't clicking on that. If "she's" got a boner, run!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (4WhSY)

171 the guys walking with her (or right behind her) seemed pretty harassy.
"Pretty harassy" is sexist talk especially if you're right behind her.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (JMCjf)

172 She made the point that she kept her mouth shut, eyes straight ahead and tried her best to send out signals that said "not interested." Sadly, that's not enough for some dullards. I don't think it is a race thing, I think it is a class thing.

--

That just makes em think you didn't hear em and encourages a repeated louder catcall.
The proper response is to turn your nose up and sneer.

Posted by: @votermom at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (cbfNE)

173 what is this woman's desired method of procreation? Something out of brave new world?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (/ggyL)

174 I've lived in socal most of my life. I have seen way more women catcalling men than the other way around.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (U4SLf)

175 157 Grammie Winger,
I suspect it was John Kerry that called Netanyahu that.
Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (sj3Ax)


And then joked about it being Asbergers . These people are so crude.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (3B+O8)

176 She's a digme. Probably goes for these walks once a week to stock up on digme.

Posted by: wth at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (wAQA5)

177 170 Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (4WhSY)


Seekrea Survas?

//Thai Tranny Hooker Local 957

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (/4AZU)

178 Posted by: The Intersectional Hat at October 31, 2014 05:44 PM (lN8KC)

Damn, this is getting complicated. But what I take away from this is 1) everybody's apparently oppressing everybody else, and 2) ultimately, white men are to blame for everything, but that's an eternal verity of the universe.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 05:48 PM (SLea


Pretty much.

It doesn't actually make sense, but lefty academia is all about doublethink.

Posted by: The Intersectional Hat at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (lN8KC)

179 Did someone from the State Dept really call Netanyahu a chickenshit? Who ARE these people?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (3B+O





It was Fredo.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (y60YF)



Because nothing says "coward" like anonymously calling someone a chickens***.

Posted by: Vendette at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (yvrbO)

180 It's like having a really cool Halloween display in your front yard, then never answering the door to hand out candy and peeking out through the blinds so you can laugh at the disappointed kids.

If you dress like a prostitute, you just may drum up some business.

Posted by: The Sultan of Swat at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (28pxY)

181 "Catcall" is speciesist oppression of Feline Americans. Teh kittehs is eleventy!!! offended.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (omf9g)

182 Yeah, I totally hate it when I get all those catcalls.

Posted by: Lynne Stewart at October 31, 2014 06:11 PM (SLea8)

183 The Jackhole -- .707 the square root of 1/2

How ironic.

Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 06:11 PM (MDgS8)

184 178 Posted by: The Intersectional Hat at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (lN8KC)

It's not doublethink if we don't mean any of it....

//Ivory Tower Hipster Imams

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:11 PM (/4AZU)

185 Unemployed boors hanging around on street corners in Harlem? Imagine.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:05 PM (SLea

I have a nice stew for unemployed boors. I got it from a bushman who hated to see boors lying around.

Posted by: Anthony Bourdain at October 31, 2014 06:11 PM (3GFMN)

186 179 Did someone from the State Dept really call Netanyahu a chickenshit? Who ARE these people?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM (3B+O





It was Fredo.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2014 06:08 PM (y60YF)



Because nothing says "coward" like anonymously calling someone a chickens***.
Posted by: Vendette at October 31, 2014 06:10 PM (yvrbO)


**********


Biden.

I wonder if the whole purpose of the gossip is to float the idea of--

"it's too late."

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:12 PM (RJMhd)

187 I ain't clicking on that. If "she's" got a boner, run!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (4WhSY)

Was on the job a couple months ago, and one guy flat out said his winter plans were to go to Thailand and get with an, ahem, ladyboy. He called it a 'budget threeway'.

Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:12 PM (xqB0z)

188 Grammie Winger.
Crude is putting it mildly for them. It could have been The JEF but I think it was Kerry the man so proud of his military service

What was it 4 months

Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:12 PM (sj3Ax)

189 Catcalls? Tell me when.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 31, 2014 06:13 PM (3GFMN)

190 I ain't clicking on that. If "she's" got a boner, run!


Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (4WhSY)


Now he tells me.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:13 PM (SLea8)

191 The best part of all is that the left is eating itself over a harassment video that shows very little harassment.
Posted by: Just A Guy at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (CGzAz)


----------------------------------------


I think it's something else. They're once more re-defining sexual harrassment and rape. Watch. The rape accusation will rear it's head over this.

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:13 PM (AWcPC)

192 "Plus, women are the weaker sex, so this is intimidating, too."

Wait, what? Weaker sex?

I thought that if a woman gets grabbed by a much larger, much stronger man, then she simply executes a quadruple voodoo ninja inverted airborne spinning back kick and renders him unconscious within half a second. Without visibly exerting herself or so much as breaking a nail.

Isn't that the way the Scarlett Johansson types always take care of it in the movies?

Posted by: torquewrench at October 31, 2014 06:13 PM (noWW6)

193 picking up girls with a boner:
Not all it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: zombie eddie murphy at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (JMCjf)

194
Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 06:11 PM (MDgS

Wow, crazy

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (6/J77)

195 Was on the job a couple months ago, and one guy flat out said his winter
plans were to go to Thailand and get with an, ahem, ladyboy. He called
it a 'budget threeway'.


O.o

Does he know he's gay?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (4WhSY)

196 Brown men showing their appreciation for white women. you got a problem with that?

Posted by: Juan Williams at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (3GFMN)

197 190 Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:13 PM (SLea

REGGIE! Why are you dressed as Michelle?

//Preznit Urkle X in Psycho2-The Enscomafening

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (/4AZU)

198 My bet is on Susan Rice namecalling. She is already known to be a pottymouth and her jealousy of real accomplishments (just like her boss has the same problem) makes her the ideal name-caller. Mean girl.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (MIKMs)

199 I think I stopped paying attention when they characterized "Good morning" as a "catcall." If you're so fucking scared of old men and brown people you can't even hear "Good morning" and say "good morning" back society is not your problem.

Posted by: HR drinking beer and handing out Skittles at October 31, 2014 06:15 PM (hO8IJ)

200 I think it's something else. They're once more re-defining sexual harrassment and rape. Watch. The rape accusation will rear it's head over this.



Thought rape.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 06:15 PM (5ic5a)

201 Hardwired into the brain. For survival purposes.

A couple of things. First, I can take any image of any 'plain jane' full body shot of a woman into Photoshop, click on 'liquefy' and push her waist in on both sides. She immediately goes from a 4 or 5 on the 'hotness' scale to at least a 7 or 8. Why is that?


Second -- perhaps there is a survival message that is hardwired into male brains when confronted with such a woman. She has bosom and childbearing hips but does not seem to be eating enough. Perhaps she needs a different mate to provide for her?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 31, 2014 06:15 PM (zxQ4h)

202 173 what is this woman's desired method of procreation? Something out of brave new world?
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 31, 2014 06:09 PM (/ggyL)



Mitosis.

Looks like she's about to start anaphase, too.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:15 PM (SLea8)

203 Anybody remember the French tourist who had her clothes ripped off at NYC's Puerto Rican Day parade?

Posted by: boniface ballers at October 31, 2014 06:16 PM (m/Gc2)

204 Smart man, Ace. I look forward to your autopsy report/movie review of the corpse of this event once it shakes out.

>>> Curvy girls are *always* sort of sexy because you always see the curves but you can't blame that on them.
She didn't do anything in particular to signal sexual availability.
She's not wearing nightclub clothing. She's wearing standard
hipster/student faux-proletariat clothing.
Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:47 PM (/FnUH)


My sis lives in NYC, is curvy, and has gotten plenty of catcalls in her time there. Last year we had fam visiting and were in Times Square; one of those annoying guys on every corner advertising a comedy show or whatever abandoned his post to follow her three blocks, asking for her number and for them to go have a good time and how attractive she was. In front of her fam. And this was in her grubby afterwork clothes, no makeup, not dolled up in any way. It finally took her telling him she was gay for him to back off. (She has not officially come out to those family members yet; I'm not sure if they thought she was lying to him or if they knew she was telling the truth, lol.) Was immensely unnerving and unasked for.

That guy just happened to be black. Do I think that means that all black guys are rude pigs? No, because unlike the left I don't generalize all people in a group according to the worst examples of that group. The guys in her neighborhood that catcall her are black and latino because, guess what, she lives in a neighborhood with that as the majority ethnicities. If she lived in a different neighborhood it might be a different story.

Short answer: the vid was not a gotcha vid, this does indeed happen in larger cities where you bump into a lot of people, some people are not so great, that is life.

And watching the left eat each other over who is the more aggrieved and privileged here is popcorn worthy.

Posted by: LizLem at October 31, 2014 06:16 PM (yRwC8)

205 The angle of the dangle is directly proportional to the mass of the ass. I'm not sure why I just wrote that but it seems applicable.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 31, 2014 06:17 PM (Xmw9g)

206 "Plus, women are the weaker sex, so this is intimidating, too."


Wait, what? Weaker sex?



That horse has left the barn, pasture, and county.
Equality is a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 06:17 PM (5ic5a)

207 "Harassment"?!!! I'll show you harassment!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at October 31, 2014 06:17 PM (3GFMN)

208 OT:
6:20 and we've only had trick or treaters once; a pair of high schoolers.
Usually we get lots of little tykes.
Enterovirus fears?

Posted by: @votermom at October 31, 2014 06:17 PM (cbfNE)

209 Does he know he's gay?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:14 PM (4WhSY)

There are actually four sexual orientations, I think. Straight, gay, bi, and "As long as I get my rocks off I don't really care". He's that last one.

Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (xqB0z)

210 Mitosis.

Splitter.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (4WhSY)

211 "The only colors that matter down here are red, white, and blue."

But then he corrects himself...cuz I was gonna say...

Gov. Jindal:

https://twitter.com/BobbyJindal

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (0xTsz)

212
I'd get catcalls too, but I'd rather not walk.

Posted by: Candy Crowley at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (wAQA5)

213 Unlike the white man, my Native American people used all of the boor and left nothing to waste.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, Who Speaks With No Discernible Aboriginal Accent at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (pbr7X)

214 I've actually never seen it.

************

Not to get all "that's because you're not a girl" but that is because you aren't a girl. It happens and it's mostly totally not a big deal. Sometimes it's even funny.

It will be fun to watch the infighting though, because there is a bit of a conflict here...

Posted by: Lea at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (/bd0t)

215 Thought rape.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 06:15 PM (5ic5a)


---------------------------------------


Was laughable 4-6 years ago. Now......

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (AWcPC)

216 There are actually four sexual orientations, I think. Straight, gay,
bi, and "As long as I get my rocks off I don't really care". He's that
last one.


Keep him away from the kids.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (4WhSY)

217 The rich Corinthian leather on your ass looks good enough to eat.

Posted by: Ricardo Mantalban at October 31, 2014 06:18 PM (3GFMN)

218 208 OT:
6:20 and we've only had trick or treaters once; a pair of high schoolers.
Usually we get lots of little tykes.
Enterovirus fears?
Posted by: @votermom at October 31, 2014 06:17 PM (cbfNE)



I never get anyone. I bet tonite will be the same, seeing that we have gale force winds outside and it's 30 some degrees.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:19 PM (3B+O8)

219 Enterovirus fears?

I hadn't thought of that. I've had 13 kids. Last year this time I was digging into the second bag of candy. I was assuming it was the weather.

I think you're more likely to get the virus at school than anywhere else, though.

Posted by: HR drinking beer and handing out Skittles at October 31, 2014 06:19 PM (hO8IJ)

220 Looks like she's about to start anaphase, too.



I read that as, nevermind.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 06:19 PM (5ic5a)

221 193 picking up girls with a boner:
Not all it's cracked up to be.

--------

PRO TIP: Start with a wet towel and work your way up from there.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 31, 2014 06:20 PM (pbr7X)

222 First world problem. Most places, whiny little bitches hide from raging primates. Of course, the rape and multilation is reversed in this brave new world. Why suck it up and just deal with it when endless meaningless gossip and bickering feeds the smugness?

An armed society is a polite society. The alternative is just the global bratty little sister that will not let up.

They will hunt you, and kill you, and never give up. That is what they do, that is all they do.

Posted by: concerned american at October 31, 2014 06:20 PM (iz6K/)

223 A higher % of black guys catcall and harass women than white guys or asian guys. That's why if you go to NY and record guys who catcall women, the guys will be disproportionately black.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:21 PM (ZPrif)

224 Kids might be starting later because it's not a school night so they can stay up later.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (0xTsz)

225 I'm really pissed off about this. If any guy said anything like that to me I'd punch him right in the face.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (3GFMN)

226 That guy just happened to be black. Do I think that
means that all black guys are rude pigs? No, because unlike the left I
don't generalize all people in a group according to the worst examples
of that group.




Posted by: LizLem at October 31, 2014 06:16 PM (yRwC


Let's keep straight the distinction between a categorical statement ("ALL X are Z") and a statistical one ("Xs are MORE LIKELY than Ys to be Z"). Not all men are criminals, nor are all women law-abiding, but statistically men are more likely to be criminals than women. True?

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (SLea8)

227
So what's the story?

Tonight after trick r treatin are we watching Trilogy Of Terror?

Posted by: Soothsayer is All Knowing of Approximate Knowledge at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (t5zu8)

228 This happened to me once

and that bastion of female repression, the United States military, responded by hounding the guy and shaming him


I love men

Posted by: ThunderB at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (zOTsN)

229 225 I'm really pissed off about this. If any guy said anything like that to me I'd punch him right in the face.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (3GFMN)




You got nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (SLea8)

230 Wellpthe I've got a jury out and much outside the ordinary, I had a Perry Mason moment. The charge is violating a restraining order by consuming alcohol. The defendant took the stand and presented herself as a caring mother who would never consume alcohol now that she's pregnant. Her attorney asked her if she had kids and she named one daughter. I knew she had another daughter whose name was conspicuously absent. I asked who so and so was naming her of daughter. I asked why she left her out. She said because she didn't have custody. And then, over the vigorous objection of defense counsel, I asked if a court had entered a no contact order prohibiting her from contact order prohibiting her from contactIng that daughter and she was forced to admit it to be true. Her perfect mom persona was completely destroyed.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 31, 2014 06:23 PM (j6e8f)

231 Funny, I've been waiting for a catcall my whole life.

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 31, 2014 06:23 PM (3GFMN)

232

heres the thing

find your voice

you don't like it, say so

and who is the person filming this

it is incumbent on the lady in question and her companions to voice their objection in the bluntest terms possible

they will run away

Posted by: ThunderB at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (zOTsN)

233 >>An armed society is a polite society.

Hmm. We should start on a grant proposal.

Same woman, same outfit, open carry.

Same woman, same outfit, "concealed" carry, which wouldn't be very.

What else?

Diff cities, of course.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (0xTsz)

234 Maybe they are trying to test how much resistance there is to abandoning Israel and/or coupling up with Iran.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (RJMhd)

235 Yum. I'll bet her thong needed washing after that walk.

Posted by: Gerdildo Retardo at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (wAQA5)

236 Let's keep straight the distinction between a categorical statement ("ALL X are Z") and a statistical one ("Xs are MORE LIKELY than Ys to be Z"). Not all men are criminals, nor are all women law-abiding, but statistically men are more likely to be criminals than women. True?
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:22 PM (SLea

Not to get all hair-splitty and all that, but it also depends on what your society defines as criminal

Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (VHTIT)

237 by the way the guy hounding me was white, not that it matters

except that his peer group excised their own punishment against him

Posted by: ThunderB at October 31, 2014 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

238 234 Maybe they are trying to test how much resistance there is to abandoning Israel and/or coupling up with Iran.
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (RJMhd)


This would not end well.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 31, 2014 06:25 PM (3B+O8)

239

Kitteh Call: I love Ace!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 06:26 PM (IXrOn)

240 Oh and for some reason I am getting Planned Parenthood ads on the front page of AoS, yaaaaaaay me. *eyeroll* Jon Stewart just got a huge pat on the back from the media when he found out the Koch bros were adverting during his show and did a takedown on it; I don't mind if one of the bloggers does the same, hah.

Though if it is any of the male cobs or Ace that does it, you are obviously just knuckledragging misogynists trying to keep women down! Or something, I don't know the current rage memes du jour.

Posted by: LizLem at October 31, 2014 06:26 PM (yRwC8)

241 223 A higher % of black guys catcall and harass women than white guys or asian guys. That's why if you go to NY and record guys who catcall women, the guys will be disproportionately black.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:21 PM (ZPrif)

********

Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call--

"Hey baby let me fry your rice!"

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:26 PM (RJMhd)

242 Happy Halloween, horde. I'm closing the blinds, hunkering down and watching a movie. I might have a bite to eat too.

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:27 PM (AWcPC)

243 Guys like girls. Girls like guys. And both sexes spend a huge amount of money and more time than they should trying to make themselves even more attractive to the other. If you think not then explain why women are injecting stuff into their butts and guys are getting liposuction.

Sometimes this game plays out crudely. And it has since before Shep was eating cannibals inside the Super Dome.

First world problems.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2014 06:27 PM (g1DWB)

244 Posted by: Secundus at October 31, 2014 06:24 PM (VHTIT)


OK, change it to height, then. Not all men are taller than all women, but men generally are more likely to be taller than women. How's that?

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2014 06:27 PM (SLea8)

245 "Did someone from the State Dept really call Netanyahu a chickenshit? Who ARE these people?"

The really funny part is that the Hussein Clown Posse completely refused to apologize in any way despite pretty much everyone in the Israeli government calling it insulting and inappropriate. And despite Obama's already low approval rating with the Israeli public dropping even further.

But THEN, the Stateside identity-politics left unleashed a tsunami of indignant butthurt about how one of the anonymous epithets leveled at Netanyahu, "Asperger-y", was a horrible slight against people with Asperger's, and a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, and so on and so forth.

And the administration actually then apologized!

You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 31, 2014 06:27 PM (noWW6)

246 Decades ago a girlfriend told me on a trip to South America (possibly Central America) she and her female companion were continuously cat-whistled aggressively for the way they were dressed. Dressed normally, they were nonetheless taken as dressing to provoke sexual attention and are kindly obliged, in that culture.

This is why Middle Eastern women wear sackcloth. So it cannot be said they are inviting sexual attention.

Oh, how we laughed.

Now I see the way women are dressed for television and I'm all, "WOOT! Show me more of your tits!"

I imagine myself dressed as provocatively to draw attention to my sexual bits.

"Hellooooo, my eyes are up here!"

"Yeah, but you're displaying your bewbs purposefully down here!"

Were I to ignore your thoughtful cleavage then you'd become even more daring. As you do. pfffft to the whole thing.

Damed when do, damned when you don't. Bitches are never satisfied so why bother?

Posted by: bour3 at October 31, 2014 06:29 PM (5x3+2)

247 Let me weigh in on this. The catcalls of the bronzed Hispanic men express the sexuality of the moment on the hot city streets against the backdrop of American prudery as enforced the the norms of a culture that is afraid of looking at itself and seeing what is reflected in its own reduction of what it means to be human in its faulty institutions and recherche self-inceptions. To the extent that the brown man speaks to the white woman from within that which reinforces his browness the woman is not violated but elevated. Can they not see this?

Posted by: Camille Paglia at October 31, 2014 06:29 PM (3GFMN)

248 Almost time to put on my Medusa headband:

http://amzn.com/B003NNVCD0

Try not to stare directly into the web cam window.

While wearing this, catcalls will just sound like "Hey Ba--" and they won't be following, will they?

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 31, 2014 06:30 PM (0xTsz)

249 245

Hussein Clown Posse

I LOLed!

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at October 31, 2014 06:31 PM (RRbuy)

250 I so totally just don't give a damn.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 31, 2014 06:33 PM (08Znv)

251 I just watched video and the majority are black men

It is typical of their behavior

Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:33 PM (sj3Ax)

252 "I have been repeatedly instructed that I am to never criticize any historically-oppressed minority's culture, and I'm also not permitted to have an opinion on anything that vaguely Affects Women's Health, Well-Being, or Dreams, so I am left without any voice here."

I think that this here is a pretty good candidate for quote of the day.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at October 31, 2014 06:33 PM (HBAcW)

253 You know what?

Fuck that shit.

Not only do I not schmooze women on the street, I generally don't talk to anyone.

So spare me the demands that I atone or condemn. It ain't my problem.

Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:34 PM (MMC8r)

254 All Hollaback ever intended to do about the problem was studiously ignore the types who behave as depicted in the video while collecting donations so they can round up a bunch of mincing, harmless beta males who never catcalled anyone and sternly lecture them about how you can't talk to women that way.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 31, 2014 06:35 PM (bitPb)

255 Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call
--
It does happen, of course, just with much lower frequency.

A lot of catcalling is done by men with mental problems or just really dumb men or men prone to criminality.

Asian-americans have the lowest rates of criminal and anti-social behavior of the racial groups the govt tracks, so they harass women the least.

That said, n my own extended family, the only guy I'd bet has said inappropriate things to women is actually asian. I don't know his exact diagnosis but he has some mild degree of retardation, I think, and he says inappropriate things and he likes women, but they don't like him since there's obviously something wrong with him.

Different populations have different rates of anti-social behavior.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:35 PM (ZPrif)

256 155 These are all fair points.
Posted by: eleven at October 31, 2014 06:06 PM (MDgS

Too funny.

Posted by: Caliban at October 31, 2014 06:36 PM (3GFMN)

257 Not only do I not schmooze women on the street, I generally don't talk to anyone.



So spare me the demands that I atone or condemn. It ain't my problem.





Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:34 PM (MMC8r)


You think innocence is a defense? Were you marooned on a deserted island the last 40 years?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:36 PM (SLea8)

258 John Wayne didn't rub up against a chick on a sidewalk while licking his lips.

Theodore Roosevelt never propositioned a woman he didn't know - in public - and with vulgar terms.

Ronald Reagan didn't grab his crotch on the street when a good looking woman sauntered buy.

Americans don't do that. Not here, not anywhere I've lived, no matter what background from Basque to Shoshone, Zia to French to Mexican American. That's shameful stuff, and only retards and foreigners do that shit.

It seems that New Yorkers are a bunch of moronic filthy dimwits. It isn't a "thing" about race.

It's a video showing stupid Northeastern Urban Assholes.

I betcha you do the same thing in Oklahoma City, Dubuque Iowa, or Salt Lake City Utah and you'd see a lot less rudeness.

Do it in Philadelphia or Boston and I bet you'd see filthy dirtbags again.

It's cultural. Americans don't do that, Europeans and Europhilic asswipes do.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 31, 2014 06:36 PM (vmltA)

259 Remake this video with Lena Dunham and let the hilarity begin.

Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:37 PM (MMC8r)

260 255 Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call


And even if they did, you'd probably need subtitles.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:37 PM (SLea8)

261


harassment?

Her-ass-ment that I had to tell her to give it up, yo!

Posted by: every black street hustler, ever at October 31, 2014 06:38 PM (XIXZz)

262 255 Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call

Me love you long time!

Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:38 PM (MMC8r)

263 @259....thanks for causing me to share my beer with the keyboard.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at October 31, 2014 06:38 PM (OWjjx)

264 @258 I betcha you do the same thing in Oklahoma City, Dubuque Iowa, or Salt Lake City Utah and you'd see a lot less rudeness.
-----------------

As mentioned above, roughly ten minutes before this post went up, I saw a post by my sister on Facebook complaining about someone whistling at her as she walked from her car to her work.

She lives in SLC.

^^;;

She told off the guy, and he got defensive about it. I posted that she should have kicked him in the crotch, and then claimed it was a Pavlovian Response.


Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 06:39 PM (UWFpX)

265 This wymyn's oppression narrative colliding with the oppressed black and brown male is one shining example of why the elite proggies smug predictions of a permanent Democrat majority is doomed to blow up on the launch pad

Democrats and the elite (and mostly rich white) who lead have a demographic following who have in common only their resentments against white heterosexual males.

Women, muslims, Jews, gays, blacks, hispanics, college educated, uneducated free shitters, techies, and union slugs need the Republican party as a common enemy or they would tear themselves to pieces in internecine warfare fighting for who gets all the goodies

Posted by: kbdabear at October 31, 2014 06:39 PM (aTXUx)

266 A lot of catcalling is done by men with mental problems or just really dumb men or men prone to criminality.





Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:35 PM (ZPrif)

Uh oh ...

You know speaking the truth is a revolutionary act now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (SLea8)

267 I understand why they killed him -- there had been jihadi raids in their village killing hundreds and he didn't speak the local language -- not clear why they ate him.

DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 5m
Congo crowd kills man, eats him after militant massacres... http://drudge.tw/10GfApp

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (ZPrif)

268 Asian man doing catcall:

"Hey baby, I love your calculus!"

Posted by: Yo-yo Ma at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (3GFMN)

269 So the "War on Women" crowd and the race hustlers are fighting an intraparty civil war four days from the election. Take a moment to savor this beautiful moment, for it does not happen often.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (qJPSp)

270 I think it's something else. They're once more re-defining sexual harrassment and rape. Watch. The rape accusation will rear it's head over this.

Well, that's what they're trying to do. Even the most ardent lefties that I know, both in person and online, are mocking the video, though.

Posted by: Just A Guy at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (CGzAz)

271 230 Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 31, 2014 06:23 PM (j6e8f)

Nice?

No really good work I suppose just a sad world that needs such good work

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:41 PM (/4AZU)

272 Didn't someone go through the video and find that really only 20 comments were actual catcalls? The rest were fairly standard greetings?

And this is NYC. There are people who will sit on the street and say "good morning" to literally *every* person who walks by. So a handful of these might not be sexually suggestive.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 31, 2014 06:41 PM (b65cm)

273 In real life it is best to ignore the men who catcall since it's a subpopulation prone to violence and serious mental illness.

Telling them off or trying to make some political point is unwise unless you have protection.

Crazy people who accost you are on the street are usually crazy.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:42 PM (ZPrif)

274 253 Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:34 PM (MMC8r)


the leftbat kult of victimhood thing has rendered me damn near a shut-in....

so yeah #NotYouBuddyGuy WRT shaming

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:42 PM (/4AZU)

275 Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call Me love you long time!
Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:38 PM (MMC8r)


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That's funny. But it's true. In Asia it's usually the women that do the catcalling.

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:42 PM (AWcPC)

276 264 @258 I betcha you do the same thing in Oklahoma City, Dubuque Iowa, or Salt Lake City Utah and you'd see a lot less rudeness.
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As mentioned above, roughly ten minutes before this post went up, I saw a post by my sister on Facebook complaining about someone whistling at her as she walked from her car to her work.

She lives in SLC.

^^;;

She told off the guy, and he got defensive about it. I posted that she should have kicked him in the crotch, and then claimed it was a Pavlovian Response.


Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 06:39 PM (UWFpX)

________________

It's not about the city. It's the part of the city.

Walk down E. 70th St in NYC for 10 hours and I will bet large sums of money you won't get a single catcalls. Walk down the street in a Hispanic 'hood in SLC (and yes there are plenty, SLC is about 20% Hispanic) you'll get 100 catcalls.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 06:43 PM (0LHZx)

277 Women, muslims, Jews, gays, blacks, hispanics, college educated, uneducated free shitters, techies, and union slugs need the Republican party as a common enemy or they would tear themselves to pieces in internecine warfare fighting for who gets all the goodies
Posted by: kbdabear at October 31, 2014 06:39 PM (aTXUx)





That's my conjecture for the failure of Air America. Dems tell each of their pressure groups whatever that group wants to hear, but the different groups have diametrically opposed interests (e.g., eco-nuts and union thugs). Usually the Dems get around this by meeting with each group out of earshot of the others, but with Air America they were in principle broadcasting to all of them, at the same time. The only way to avoid a train wreck was to make their shows so vapid and insipid that they didn't appeal to anybody.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:43 PM (SLea8)

278 Ace
Where did you find that video? It was cracking me up.

Posted by: Carol at October 31, 2014 06:44 PM (sj3Ax)

279 I trust no one is bringing up the ancient history that one of the driving motives behind U.S. suffragettes was being pissed off that black men were getting the vote before white women. That would be totally uncalled for and needlessly inflammatory.

You want fun?

What was the first great victory of the feminist movement?

Prohibition. Although the amendment came first, many states had legalized women voting and prohibition was the first fruit of that.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 31, 2014 06:44 PM (b65cm)

280 Hey babe. *watches her walk by* Never did care much for cottage cheese.

Posted by: wth at October 31, 2014 06:44 PM (wAQA5)

281 she seems to have a little butter on her face.

Posted by: ace at October 31, 2014 05:34 PM (/FnUH)

She has a ButterFacebook account?

Posted by: fly gal at October 31, 2014 06:45 PM (8TdcF)

282 Thanks dudes, I picked up some great pointers from that video!

Posted by: Creepy Rob Lowe at October 31, 2014 06:45 PM (aTXUx)

283 >>Asian-americans have the lowest rates of criminal and anti-social behavior of the racial groups the govt tracks, so they harass women the least.

Ever been to Bangkok? You want to see some sex on sale take a tour of Asia. I don't think things change all that much when they put a hyphen in their identity.

In my experience American women are the most free, least harassed women on the planet.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2014 06:45 PM (g1DWB)

284 283 Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2014 06:45 PM (g1DWB)

Eh maybe Canada or until the last 20 years or so Sweden....

but yeah "first world problems"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:46 PM (/4AZU)

285 OT, Judge says Kraci Hickox free to spread ebola.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 31, 2014 06:46 PM (4WhSY)

286 >>> I have been repeatedly instructed that I am to never criticize any
historically-oppressed minority's culture, and I'm also not permitted to
have an opinion on anything that vaguely Affects Women's Health,
Well-Being, or Dreams, so I am left without any voice here.

"I think that this here is a pretty good candidate for quote of the day."

Yep. When the Ewok is in the mood he can bring the summation.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 31, 2014 06:47 PM (noWW6)

287 "These people made this world, in which there is no discussion, only accusation; in which there is no search for truth, only imposition of consequences; in which there is no thought, only political campaigning and recruitment of persons for purposes of ritualized hazing."

VERY eloquently put.

Posted by: despair at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (dcY7v)

288 with out any doubt what so ever American women are the most free


all you have to do is live some place else to know it

Posted by: ThunderB at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

289 As mentioned above, roughly ten minutes before this post went up, I saw a post by my sister on Facebook complaining about someone whistling at her as she walked from her car to her work. She lives in SLC.


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Yeah, but what I hear, SLC is a leftist hive now. NYC - leftist hive. SLC - leftist hive. Is anyone seeing the similarities?

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (AWcPC)

290 They should make a video of someone walking their dog in front of a police station

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (x42hy)

291 Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2014 06:45 PM (g1DWB)

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In Japan they have (or had anyway, maybe it's gone now) vending machines where dudes would buy women's used underwear.

My sister lived in Japan for 2 years. She's a tall blonde. She was "harassed" constantly. And I put the word in quotes because it was just pickup line type stuff which isn't truly harassment....but annoying as fuck the way she told it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (0LHZx)

292 Oh, noes!!! After the Left has worked so hard to always pit these groups against white and white males!! What will they do when there is no white male to blame? Wahhhhhhhhh!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (D/504)

293 What was the first great victory of the feminist movement?



Prohibition. Although the amendment came first, many states had
legalized women voting and prohibition was the first fruit of that.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 31, 2014 06:44 PM (b65cm)

I was watching Ken Burns's documentary on prohibition while working out yesterday, and (despite Burns's lefty tinge to things) was struck by that fact. The feminists bitching about how much better things would be if women ran the country have obviously not had prohibition brought to their attention in this context.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (SLea8)

294 290 Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (x42hy)

or in front of Ogabe...

hey how're the bears?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at October 31, 2014 06:49 PM (/4AZU)

295 The brothers were set up by having a chick with a big ass do the walking. If it as a boney assed woman, the results would have been different.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at October 31, 2014 06:49 PM (OuPNM)

296 "Hey baby want to see my hard drive?"

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:49 PM (RJMhd)

297 Posted by: zombie at October 31, 2014 06:01 PM

Nice job blowing out the margins. ASSHOLE !!!

Posted by: NativeNH at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (V5Vxu)

298
Yeah, but what I hear, SLC is a leftist hive now. NYC - leftist hive. SLC - leftist hive. Is anyone seeing the similarities?

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (AWcPC)


Good God - SLC now leftist-infested? After we lost Austin? We must keep down casualties!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (SLea8)

299 I love seeing one segment of the Left engaging in throat-clearing indignantcy only to be blindsided by another segment like competing neo-Puritans in dire competition for attention.

Of course few if any will pause a moment and wonder why they are engaged in a battle of hypersensitivity, why the baroque affection for being offended on behalf of others.

Still hope a few do though.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (k1nNw)

300 "One point I saw a leftist make that I thought made sense was this: Straight white guys would see the problem if you imagined yourself, a dude, walking through a gauntlet of gay guys, getting sexual bon mots tossed at you.

"You'd be kind of pissed off. Strangers would be forcing you to confront decisions you don't even want to think about."

Heh. When I was 14, I was catcalled by a gay adult male. I don't recall being forced to confront anything. I just smiled, shook my head and walked away.

I wonder whether a similar experiment of an attractive male (not necessarily straight) walking through gay neighborhoods would yield a similar number of catcalls and propositions. Would we find gay men to be more enlightened than the straight ones in the original video?

Posted by: stuiec at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (eetvJ)

301 monitoring for another ebloa case in portland ore
http://preview.tinyurl.com/k7o7jsh

Posted by: giving up at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (P4TJF)

302 Hi everyone!!!!11!!!

Posted by: Lurking Death at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (pM/vk)

303 So, do the random pickups EVER work?

And if its black/hispanic men that do them, does it work for THEM?

And does that mean there's a question to be asked about those particular cultures, then?

Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (MMC8r)

304 Hey baby, you got a license to tow that trailer ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (6/J77)

305 "Walk around showing off your assets"

She didn't seem dressed provocatively to me.


Some people are rude. Some men are juvenile. Sometimes it goes over the line into something beyond "hubba-hubba." Some men intend to intimidate women with their advances. That's just true.

All this stuff about political correctness or feminism or whatever doesn't mean much to me.

Just ask yourself if you'd like your daughter or wife or mom to be treated the way some of these dudes treated this gal. That's the standard by which you should measure your behavior.

But no one here needs to apologize to ME for the behavior of other dudes who crossed the line. Just don't deny that it happens or make generalizations that women ask for it. We're not all Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Y-not at October 31, 2014 06:51 PM (9BRsg)

306 hey, clear the sidewalk, WIDE LOAD comin through

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 31, 2014 06:51 PM (6/J77)

307
You ain't heard catcalls until you've walked Castro Street on Friday night.

Posted by: Pink Cowboy Hat at October 31, 2014 06:51 PM (wAQA5)

308 What's funny is how many times they attempted doing this to white male oppressors, such as sending obvious Muslims to NASCAR or a coupla gays making out at a redneck diner- - - and nothing happens!

And here they were unable to separate the white, male racist bigots from the rest of the pack - - - and the rest of the pack behaves in the way they only believe rednecks would.
FAIL

Posted by: Lizzy at October 31, 2014 06:53 PM (D/504)

309 Ever been to Bangkok? You want to see some sex on sale take a tour of Asia. I don't think things change all that much when they put a hyphen in their identity.
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Huh?
I'm talking government statistics.
Asian-Americans have the lowest rates of crime and other anti-social behaviors like welfare use, high school dropouts, etc.
It's not my opinion, it's just a fact.

People aren't all the same.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:53 PM (ZPrif)

310 I understand why they killed him -- there had been jihadi raids in their village killing hundreds and he didn't speak the local language -- not clear why they ate him.

DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 5m
Congo crowd kills man, eats him after militant massacres... http://drudge.tw/10GfApp

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:40 PM (ZPrif)

Because he was goddamn DELICIOUS, that's why!

Posted by: stuiec at October 31, 2014 06:53 PM (eetvJ)

311 303. When I was stationed in Jacksonville, my pickup line was 'hey baby, I have a family dental plan'
Worked great

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 31, 2014 06:54 PM (x42hy)

312 10 To be honest, I have "divorced myself from the problem," as neither I nor anyone in my cohort (that is, anyone I could be reasonably expected to socially chide into behaving better) does this.

Ever.

Exactly.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 31, 2014 05:36 PM (IXrOn)




Hell, 30 years ago I worked construction in NYC and never saw that kind of thing. Series!

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at October 31, 2014 06:54 PM (xtpUs)

313 @291
In Japan they have (or had anyway, maybe it's gone now) vending machines where dudes would buy women's used underwear.

My sister lived in Japan for 2 years. She's a tall blonde. She was "harassed" constantly. And I put the word in quotes because it was just pickup line type stuff which isn't truly harassment....but annoying as fuck the way she told it.
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My understanding is that the vending machines are gone. On a related note, I've heard that the LDS sister missionaries in Japan are told not to hang their laundry out to dry, or their bras will get stolen.


And on a completely unrelated note...

Yahoo has a puff piece on its front page about some older woman in Kansas who has supposedly single-handedly turned around the fortunes of the Democratic Party in that state.

Joy.

Media bias? What media bias?

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 06:54 PM (UWFpX)

314 288 with out any doubt what so ever American women are the most free
all you have to do is live some place else to know it
Posted by: ThunderB at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (zOTsN)



And a follow up: blacks in America have it better than blacks anywhere else in the world, by a mile. There's more opportunity, less discrimination, and more effort to be even-handed here than anywhere.

I lived in Europe for many years, and they talk a good game, but that's it. RSA doesn't have nearly the opportunity (for anyone) that the US has. One of my postdocs was from Nigeria, and he thought America was the Promised Land.

If I were black, I'd definitely want to live in America. It's not perfect, but a black man with talent and hard work can do better here than anywhere, by far.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:54 PM (SLea8)

315 Hey babe, my dog wants you to sit on his face.

Posted by: wth at October 31, 2014 06:55 PM (wAQA5)

316 (stealing Seamus' schtick)

I wonton noodle you!

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 31, 2014 06:55 PM (RJMhd)

317 In Japan they have (or had anyway, maybe it's gone now) vending machines where dudes would buy women's used underwear.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo


They got around to banning it. I thought it would be a clear case of just plain banning of unsanitary items for sale. But, sadly no.

They banned it under an old antiques law.

My sister lived in Japan for 2 years. She's a tall blonde. She was "harassed" constantly. And I put the word in quotes because it was just pickup line type stuff which isn't truly harassment....but annoying as fuck the way she told it.

Yep, US ladies have yet to experience the grand swath of the male character in it's multi-lingual flavors.

Japan was particularly bad even through the 90's. Groping used to be a common thing in crowded trains. The Tokyo subway even at one time had ladies-only carriages at rush hours.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2014 06:55 PM (k1nNw)

318 Of course, there's a good bit of variation among different asian ethnic groups, just as there's a lot of variation among european and african ethnic groups.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 31, 2014 06:56 PM (ZPrif)

319 What's funny is how many times they attempted doing this to white male oppressors, such as sending obvious Muslims to NASCAR or a coupla gays making out at a redneck diner- - - and nothing happens!And here they were unable to separate the white, male racist bigots from the rest of the pack - - - and the rest of the pack behaves in the way they only believe rednecks would.FAIL
Posted by: Lizzy at October 31, 2014 06:53 PM (D/504)


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You're right. It's variations of the same theme and it always turns out that the leftists are always disappointed that "Americans" are usually pretty civil

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:56 PM (AWcPC)

320 So, would this happen in Huntsville?

Posted by: --- at October 31, 2014 06:57 PM (MMC8r)

321 Yeah, but what I hear, SLC is a leftist hive now. NYC - leftist hive. SLC - leftist hive. Is anyone seeing the similarities?

Posted by: Soona at October 31, 2014 06:48 PM (AWcPC)
It is, though sane Utahs are doing their best to prevent their state turning into Colorado and SLC from turning into Portland. They say Mia Love's race is gonna be close, we'll see if she wins on Tuesday. If she does, canNOT wait to see the lefty heads explode there and the comments in the SLTrib.

Posted by: LizLem at October 31, 2014 06:57 PM (yRwC8)

322 They got around to banning it. I thought it would be a clear case of just plain banning of unsanitary items for sale. But, sadly no.

They banned it under an old antiques law.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2014 06:55 PM (k1nNw)


I think they just banned the vending machines. You can still get in in stores, or more commonly, onlilne.

Posted by: Arnold Layne at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (lN8KC)

323 I've never done this.

I mean I regularly run up to women and thrust my lower body towards them like a piston.

But saying shit? Nah I'm too shy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (oFCZn)

324 Hey babe, get your ass off my dog's nose!

Posted by: wth at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (wAQA5)

325 I wonder whether a similar experiment of an
attractive male (not necessarily straight) walking through gay
neighborhoods would yield a similar number of catcalls and propositions.
Would we find gay men to be more enlightened than the straight ones in
the original video?



Posted by: stuiec at October 31, 2014 06:50 PM (eetvJ)


Homosexual men in groups sometimes get into that "outrageous queen" schtick that can be every bit as obnoxious as the guys in the video.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (SLea8)

326 Man I can't even imagine an Asian guy doing a cat call


Me love you long time!



Even that was a female saying that.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (0SuaJ)

327 I lived in a black neighborhood in a major city in the late 2000s that could be fairly called "ghetto." A good number of murders, drug arrests/raids, etc. The type of place where a 911 call meant the cops showed up with guns drawn, which happened once or twice at my house.

One of my roommates was a young, naive white girl. She really should not have been living there. She said that any time she walked down the street the denizens of that particular community absolutely bombarded her with comments, almost like it was automatic. This isn't news to anyone here, but there is an indisputable racial/cultural aspect to this controversy.

Posted by: wte9 at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (HRXlm)

328 @321 It is, though sane Utahs are doing their best to prevent their state turning into Colorado and SLC from turning into Portland. They say Mia Love's race is gonna be close, we'll see if she wins on Tuesday. If she does, canNOT wait to see the lefty heads explode there and the comments in the SLTrib.
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Only close? Crap...

I thought I'd been reading that she had a clear lead this time. I *really* hope the second time's a charm for her.

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (UWFpX)

329 So, would this happen in Huntsville?



Huntsville, Texas? Maybe. Around the frat houses at the college.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 31, 2014 07:00 PM (0SuaJ)

330 New Halloween-themed thread.

Posted by: Vendette at October 31, 2014 07:00 PM (yvrbO)

331 Only close? Crap...

I thought I'd been reading that she had a clear lead this time. I *really* hope the second time's a charm for her.

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 06:58 PM (UWFpX)


There were a couple of polls with her trailing.

Also, the "zOMfG the we are behind but its close so plz donate!!1!" e-mails will probably bring in extra $.

Posted by: OMHat at October 31, 2014 07:00 PM (lN8KC)

332 I am 70. If a young man were to whistle at me (highly unlikely), I would most likely give him a surprised smile and thank him.

Heck, since we moved down here, I'm astonished that they have grocery baggers who offer to help you load stuff into your car!

Posted by: Empire1 at October 31, 2014 07:01 PM (BHnW3)

333 @331 Also, the "zOMfG the we are behind but its close so plz donate!!1!" e-mails will probably bring in extra $.
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Hopefully that's all it is. It would be nice to get a *sane* black woman in Congress...

Posted by: junior at October 31, 2014 07:01 PM (UWFpX)

334 Nood.

Posted by: Y-not at October 31, 2014 07:01 PM (9BRsg)

335 As if women don't notice men. What type of male would women plunk down their dollars to see? Because I see that as the 'acid test'...

He'd be a fair representation of the 'Ken' doll. Taller then 'Barbie' so probably ~ six feet tall. No hair anywhere but on head, indicating early to late teens. Obvious muscularity, but not overly so. Slim waist -- probably about a ten or eleven inch difference between chest and waist --what fashion peeps call an 'athletic build'.

In effect a 'Chippendale' male. In the obscurity and privacy of the club, the women let loose and fondle the males, make catcalls, perhaps remove undergarments and toss them at the males.

But like the curvy woman in this video, the Ken is so far out of the realm of 'normalcy' that he attracts attention. On the street, women notice, but stay mum. Most white males have now been so brow-beaten by the feminists they keep silent. If anything the video showed that blacks and hispanics are the groups who the feminists should be showering their scorn. But I'm not gonna hold my breath for that to happen.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 31, 2014 07:09 PM (zxQ4h)

336 >>Huh?
I'm talking government statistics.
Asian-Americans have the lowest rates of crime and other anti-social behaviors like welfare use, high school dropouts, etc.
It's not my opinion, it's just a fact.

And so is Asia.

It's not some genetic disposition, it's just guys being guys in the society they live in. Asians who come to America tend to be the high achieving types but much of Asia is an oversexualized cesspool with literacy rates that would make Americans despair. And they catcall the hell out of things. Ask any military guy who has ever been stationed in the Philippines.

Guys of every socioeconomic and genetic pool are still guys. They may leery more discreetly at parties with finger sandwiches but the game is still on.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2014 07:09 PM (g1DWB)

337 All this stuff about political correctness or feminism or whatever doesn't mean much to me.


That's probably because it embarrasses you to realize that you're being one of the P.C. stooges on the subject. And it should.

Posted by: Just A Guy at October 31, 2014 07:11 PM (CGzAz)

338 She's an actress; advertises her bust size in her on-line resume.

http://shoshanabroberts.wix.com/shoshanabroberts#!biography/c13dn

Posted by: butch at October 31, 2014 07:14 PM (HLx1C)

339 She's an actress; advertises her bust size in her on-line resume.

Good find. She's also a size 4 with DD breasts. You know how rare that is? It's sure to get any mans attention. Almost impossible to hide unless she wears a burka.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 31, 2014 07:26 PM (zxQ4h)

340 My takeaway from the video was: Sheltered white progressive meets reality.

Yawn.

Also, remember how enlightened people are in liberal utopias like New York?

LOL

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 31, 2014 07:29 PM (7T0u2)

341 I for one would like to express solidarity with all my bruddaz in de video for doing their part to respond to that light-skinned elitist's microaggressions.

Each, in his own small way, was striking back at her privilege.

Take that, Lena Dunham!

Posted by: Adjoran at October 31, 2014 07:41 PM (QIQ6j)

342 Empire1 @ 332-
Brookshires, baby! We love you and want you back!

Posted by: Erowmero at October 31, 2014 08:02 PM (go5uR)

343 I didn't anything wrong with what most of the men said. I don't consider, "You are pretty!" or "Have a nice day!" sexual harassment. These men are just trying to get her attention. That is what men do, and any woman with a functioning brain figures out that there a class differences in how men approach women.

A few of them were creepy, like the guy who kept walking with her. Other than that, what is the point? Are lower-class men not allowed to speak to upper-class women? That seems to be the only message.

Posted by: Jen at October 31, 2014 08:13 PM (msAGT)

344 I have been repeatedly instructed that I am to never criticize any historically-oppressed minority's culture, and I'm also not permitted to have an opinion on anything that vaguely Affects Women's Health, Well-Being, or Dreams, so I am left without any voice here.

Don't forget as well, that if a black male attacks you, if you successfully defend yourself, you will be deprived of your job, your economic future, and basically any quiet during the rest of your life.

If you are unsuccessful in defending yourself, and the black male kills you, well, you win!

Posted by: Null at October 31, 2014 08:28 PM (xjpRj)

345 And yeah, go ahead and ban me for this if you want. Doesn't make it untrue.

Posted by: Null at October 31, 2014 08:28 PM (xjpRj)

346 343
I didn't anything wrong with what most of the men said. I don't
consider, "You are pretty!" or "Have a nice day!" sexual harassment.

You don't see it but I do.
That's because I was once a young girl in the big city tryin' to make it on my own. And had to walk a lot because I was poor and had no bus fare.

It's not what it looks like. It's a manipulation and an imposition.
I could explain more but I'm tired and I lost my car key in the front yard while I was putting out the tombstones.

Posted by: SarahW at October 31, 2014 08:38 PM (Lbv/k)

347 There is a proper, polite, civil and progressive way to express your appreciation of an attractive woman:

You send armed, uniformed state troopers to her dressing room and have her escorted to your suite.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 31, 2014 09:10 PM (XO6WW)

348 Great post Ace. Nailed it.

Posted by: Radar at October 31, 2014 09:26 PM (KzmOC)

349 Posted by: SarahW at October 31, 2014 08:38 PM (Lbv/k)

I agree with SarahW, because I was also a young girl in the big city once.

One thing you can't see on the video is most of the men's faces. There's a difference between a nod and a quick "hello" when the guy just glances at you and smiles and moves(which I didn't mind) and a guy like Super Creepy Rob Lowe saying hello or you are pretty when his eyes are fixed on your boobs.

As I said in a thread yesterday, it puts a woman in a bad situation, because I soon found that if I said hi back or responded in any way, the guy would take that as encouragement and follow me and keep up the banter. "You like me? You want to go for a drink? You got a boyfriend?" And that's annoying and can get scary.

I think it's sometimes difficult for men to realize how quickly a woman can be reminded of the fact that she's physically weaker than most men. When you're followed by a guy pestering you and you can't shake him, you're suddenly intensely aware of being vulnerable. I had a godawful experience once when I was followed by 3 young thugs for about 5 blocks who were saying things to me that were a lot cruder than "you're pretty." And I was walking home from work in a suit, with a skirt on that was below my knees (this was the 80's) so I wasn't flaunting anything. By the time they decided to leave me alone, I was trembling.

Remember, this usually happens to women who are alone. It never happens when you're with a guy, or even that much when you're with a friend or group of women.

95% of the time, it was a annoyance, not threatening. And I don't really know what any group can do about it. You can't pass a law saying men can't talk to strange women on the street!

What I could do about it: stay out of shitty neighborhoods. And carry pepper spray. And try not to take it too much to heart.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at October 31, 2014 09:37 PM (+XMAD)

350 "One of my roommates was a young, naive white girl. She really should not have been living there. She said that any time she walked down the street the denizens of that particular community absolutely bombarded her with comments, almost like it was automatic"

That was my situation also. I lived in a pretty iffy neighborhood in DC for a while - on Mass. Ave. NW near Logan Circle. I don't know what it's like now, but in the 80's, it was rough.

I lived there because I didn't have a car and so wanted to live near my job which was on K St., within walking distance. And I couldn't afford to live in the nicer neighborhoods yet. When I could, I got the hell out of there.

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Posted by: chaussures de foot at October 31, 2014 09:52 PM (AItWm)

352 You don't see it but I do.


No, you don't. You claim you do, because you wish to stigmatize behavior with which you don't agree. Those are two wildly disparate truths. We live in a society where women think they have the right to do 100% of what they want, when they want and where they want, and that men should have to accommodate that 100% at the expense of the men not being able to do perfectly harmless things that they want to do.

Sorry, but even the false equality of the U.S. means something other than 100%/0%.

Posted by: Just A Guy at October 31, 2014 09:59 PM (CGzAz)

353 I love how the angry apologists are claiming the video is racist because there weren't enough white men caught on camera harassing the girl.
I lived in NYC for 15 years. I saw girls get harassed all the time while walking down the street, uptown, downtown, east side, west side, rich and poor neighborhoods. The harrassers were always non white. Sorry. That's what I saw.

Posted by: Hamilton at October 31, 2014 10:01 PM (a3+wd)

354 I know it happens. I've never done it and I resolved some time ago to never feel guilty for that which I hadn't done.

Also, this is essentially an attempt to shakedown civilized males. Just as so many in your face confrontations with Christians try to pass themselves off as speaking truth to power, the truth of the matter is you don't do anything to address the people who are truly the problem because those people might hurt you or cut your head off or rape rape you.

No, you browbeat those who will take it and hope that in the process they open their pocketbooks to you.

Blue on blue make it continue until the last tranny standing.

Posted by: ghabberflasted at October 31, 2014 10:31 PM (wxM2L)

355 No no no #353 Hamilton, you don't understand. Every ethnic group commits offeses in EQUAL NUMBERS! Eric Holder said so! Any liberal knows that if something is SUPPOSED to be some way, it IS that way.

Posted by: WillyG at October 31, 2014 11:09 PM (2mxhZ)

356 When you go to their site, they explain that there were lots and lots of white harassers. They didn't make it into the video because the guy editing the vid was a white male racist. Oh, there is no way that an empowered feminist can escape the evil patriarchy. Life is so unfair.

Posted by: Bob at November 01, 2014 09:05 AM (fVGlW)

357 267. The worked up a big appetite what with all that rock throwing.

Posted by: Bob at November 01, 2014 09:23 AM (fVGlW)

358 NPR ran a piece on this and never once mentioned the race of the men in the video, which then makes it easy to admonish them in an "other than minority" fashion.

Posted by: 13times at November 01, 2014 01:26 PM (WHVu+)

359 wait ... to be divorced from a problem don't you first have to be married to said problem ?

how is this video any different that a Beyonce music video ?

Posted by: JeffC at November 01, 2014 04:06 PM (hYYqD)

360
These comments demonstrate a problem that conservatives need to solve. Comment after comment talks about what we are 'allowed' to think or say. If this is a free country we are allowed to think or say nearly anything. The problem is that the left has achieved the power to punish dissenting opinion, even when the opinion is shared by 90% of the public. The punishment may take a legal form (lawsuit or IRS audit or criminal prosecution) but usually it is sufficient to mobilize private sector resources (TV, social media, journalism, word of mouth, employer) to get the offender in trouble with people who canhurt him. The most powerful censor is the voice inside us that tells us not to even think about expressing our 'politically incorrect' thoughts. If we are to vote for the GOP we must insist that theyuse their considerable power to undo this cripplingsituation. The only way to do it is to spread the word and place conditions on your vote and support for the GOP.
And btw Israeloutlaws disagreement with a ratherlonglist ofpropositions that are dear to it and the Jewish community has played a prominent role in persuading the EU and evenAmerican legislators to endorse the idea of criminalizing speech. Historically, loyalty to Israel has not been a conservative tenet nor should it be.

Posted by: peter at November 02, 2014 06:35 PM (AVEwg)

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