Science: Actually, Mass Shooting Incidents Aren't Going Up At All, If You Bother To Do the Actual Research

...as Science demands.

Mother Jones is pushing some more fake numbers at the public.

[A] recent article in Mother Jones asserted that we have "entered a new period in which mass shootings are occurring more frequently." This report relied on the well-known list compiled by Mother Jones, which has been one of the key sources used to support the claim made in the last few years that the incidences of mass shootings have accelerated.

Grant Duwe, a researcher with Minnesota's Department of Corrections, and author on mass murders in America, has already run the numbers -- and Mother Jones' numbers are simply wrong. Mother Jones seems to rely only on newspaper accounts of mass shootings, and therefore does not know about a large number of mass shootings which are documented in FBI files but are not easily discoverable through Lexis/Nexis searches of newspapers. And this problem gets worse the further back in time you go:

[T]he underreporting in the Mother Jones list grows more severe the further back in time we go. When looking at the data by decade, we see that the Mother Jones list captured 89 percent of the 18 cases from 2010-2013, 69 percent of the 29 cases from 2000-2009, 55 percent of the 42 cases from 1990-1999, and just 32 percent of the 25 cases from 1982-1989.

Hit the link to see Mother Jones' graph of some mass shootings, showing an upward trend; and then page down to see the author's graph of all mass shootings, showing no particular trend at all.

Posted by: Ace at 05:24 PM




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1 I'm feeling all boxed in!

Posted by: Smash'em at October 29, 2014 05:20 PM (kQh9Z)

2 Pscience!

Posted by: BignJames at October 29, 2014 05:20 PM (j7iSn)

3 Didn't someone recently prove that bicycle deaths were greater in number over a recent time multi-year period than mass-shooting deaths?

Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2014 05:21 PM (LISuA)

4 David Kornhole

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 29, 2014 05:21 PM (6/J77)

5 I'm feeling a little blue lately, what with all the Ebola.

Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2014 05:22 PM (LISuA)

6 Ace is just feeling a little more inclusive.

Posted by: Burn the Witch, who don't know nothin' 'bout launchin' no rockets at October 29, 2014 05:22 PM (xSCb6)

7 Don't fence me in...

Posted by: Countrysquire, celebrating white history month at October 29, 2014 05:23 PM (8FyP4)

8 Mass shooters are known to corral their victims in ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 29, 2014 05:24 PM (k1nNw)

9

Science and grey boxes make my head hurt.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 29, 2014 05:24 PM (IXrOn)

10 Mmmm corn.

Posted by: David Corn at October 29, 2014 05:24 PM (HstNY)

11 Good ol' MoFo Jones.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 29, 2014 05:24 PM (W5DcG)

12 Mass shootings? Is the Church doing something about this?

Posted by: USA at October 29, 2014 05:24 PM (m8hf7)

13 Blue boxes are better than blue balls...

Posted by: Countrysquire, celebrating white history month at October 29, 2014 05:25 PM (8FyP4)

14 I await the open season on liberals.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at October 29, 2014 05:28 PM (XzRw1)

15 How about OVERALL shooting deaths?

Are those going down now?

Posted by: looking closely at October 29, 2014 05:28 PM (hoiM7)

16 Yeah, but the more recent shootings have those scary guns with the things that fold and the pistol grips and stuff. Every death with one of those is, like, 1,000 dead people.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:29 PM (4/i9Y)

17 Don't confuse Science! with facts.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

18 And the further back you go the less these mass shootings are committed by black scary assault weapons with the thingy in front.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at October 29, 2014 05:29 PM (5Ah1i)

19 Let me consult the goat entrails on this issue. Because SCIENCE.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (NIm2/)

20 I'm surprised that Mother Jones isn't happy to see the herd thinned via mass shootings.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (jPT60)

21 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:29 PM (4/i9Y)

Hey get out of my sarcastic side of my brain.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (5Ah1i)

22 Rolling Stone's Top 5 liberal rags that make shit up to try and win the argument against the 2nd Amendment:

Haha just kidding, as if you could narrow it down to just 5.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (4/i9Y)

23 15 How about OVERALL shooting deaths?

Are those going down now?

-------

I don't think they categorize them by clothing style.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (NIm2/)

24 Blue boxes are better than blue balls...

I agree

Posted by: Doctor Who at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (W5DcG)

25 Do they even science?

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 29, 2014 05:31 PM (rwI+c)

26 "Posted by: Bob Belcher at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (5Ah1i)"

Brains have a non-sarcastic side?

Maybe that got removed during my lobotomy...

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:31 PM (4/i9Y)

27 Mother Jones has little in the cupboard.

Posted by: tbd at October 29, 2014 05:32 PM (+1frE)

28 There is so much crap in the world to be pissed off about.

Posted by: Sambo at October 29, 2014 05:32 PM (sPp6M)

29 You know what else is going down?

Me.

Posted by: Huma Abedin Edmund Weiner at October 29, 2014 05:32 PM (NIm2/)

30 If it just feels like mass shootings are going up, that's good enough.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 29, 2014 05:32 PM (AC0lD)

31 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:31 PM (4/i9Y)

Yes it's on the same side used to beg for sex.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at October 29, 2014 05:33 PM (5Ah1i)

32 Mother Jones, better known as Sugar Tits, had no comment to this fisking.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 29, 2014 05:33 PM (xm9fj)

33 See, the more mass shootings there are, the more scared single college educated white women vote for me.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 29, 2014 05:33 PM (uqV2n)

34 "Are those going down now?"

Not in Chicago.'
Maybe not Detroit.
Pretty sure not a major drop in Baltimore.


All cities where legally carried handguns are pretty much non existent





.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2014 05:33 PM (V4MhU)

35 No body ever talks about mass burnings ...

Posted by: Adriane the Meme Critic ... at October 29, 2014 05:34 PM (P+IZm)

36 Can a neutrino have a mass shooting? I don't think so.

Posted by: Stephen Hawking at October 29, 2014 05:34 PM (NIm2/)

37 20. Kathy Mother Jones knows that a totalitarian gubmin't that managed to take guns away can do a lot more herd thinning than these random tragedies.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 29, 2014 05:34 PM (dkExz)

38 Apropos of nothing, does anyone else besides me find the dancing
bridesmaid of the Southwest Airlines commercial oddly attractive?

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 29, 2014 05:34 PM (rwI+c)

39 And ALL serial killers are white.
Except for the beltway snipers, and a whole bunch of other non-whites....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:36 PM (D/504)

40 Fuck MJ and David Corn. Biggest news of the day Scotty Walker up 7 points on the failed bicycle saleswomen. Meet the new boss of 2016.

Posted by: redenzo at October 29, 2014 05:36 PM (Vh8GA)

41 Tornadoes are becoming more common. I know because I'm seeing a lot more video of tornadoestaken on cellphones than I remember seeing in past decades.

Posted by: Logic is a Mother at October 29, 2014 05:36 PM (6cOMd)

42 Doesn't Mother Jones know the graph should be a Hockey Stick?

It's Science!!!!!! after all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 05:37 PM (/Xhke)

43 It's almost like a journalism major shouldn't be messing with statistics.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:37 PM (D/504)

44 "Except for the beltway snipers, and a whole bunch of other non-whites....


Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:36 PM (D/504)"Richard Ramirez must have been one of those legendary white Hispanics.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:37 PM (4/i9Y)

45
First guy I look to for science is Josh Earnest.

First guy, everytime. Dude is all science, all the time. Big Science. Huge Science. Just like the Science Guy. All science, all the time.

Tons of science. You guys all wish you were as science as they are.


Posted by: Rev. Dr. Esp PhD Buzz Bunnies at October 29, 2014 05:38 PM (cNiT0)

46 "Posted by: redenzo at October 29, 2014 05:36 PM (Vh8GA)"

All he does is win, baby. Scott Walker/Al Davis 2016.

(Sure, Al's dead, but still smarter than Biden.)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 05:38 PM (4/i9Y)

47 Posted by: toby928(C) at October 29, 2014 05:34 PM (rwI+c)

You just like the end when she's sleeping with her mouth opened.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at October 29, 2014 05:38 PM (5Ah1i)

48 Well those weren't mass shooting, mass shootings.

Posted by: Whoppi Goldberg at October 29, 2014 05:39 PM (WGm5T)

49 Gotta move fast at the HQ.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 05:39 PM (xeL9v)

50 Is it just me, or did that mass shooting in WA quiet down way too fast? Did the indian kid not fit the right narrative? This is right before the election and the dems should be screaming, cause they don't have much left. But gun control is always a leftie favorite.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at October 29, 2014 05:39 PM (hqVUe)

51

What do I know, ABBA is on my stereo atm.

haha

Yeah, I went Easy Listening - TheDove, FL

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 29, 2014 05:39 PM (IXrOn)

52 Tell us more about how a sheep bladder may be used to prevent mass shootings.

Posted by: King Arthur at October 29, 2014 05:39 PM (NIm2/)

53 I also love journalists and newsreader yammering about "extreme weather"!!!!
As in, like, winter snow.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:40 PM (D/504)

54 Liberals lie?

GTFO

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 29, 2014 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

55 My science says that 95% of all mass shootings are done in "Gun Free Zones" and the shooter was a a hardcore leftist democrat voter.

It's a bitch facts and reality.

Posted by: Jukin at October 29, 2014 05:40 PM (WGm5T)

56 "Did the indian kid not fit the right narrative?"



Nope. Local story.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 29, 2014 05:40 PM (LA7Cm)

57 I wonder how many trees Gaia had to give up to MJ so they could print their crap all these years.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 29, 2014 05:41 PM (xm9fj)

58 I heard MJ's first on the FEC FCC LIST for talking shit on the interwebz.. Oh wait!

Posted by: Fewenuff at October 29, 2014 05:41 PM (zPNX5)

59 Our son has an open carry permit.

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, he's an expert marksman and former military. On the other hand, he gets angry looks from some. And I don't want some street thug targeting him just because.

He does love his guns, most of which he tragically lost in a boating accident.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:41 PM (lVPtV)

60

Parallel: The US is having its coldest year in history.

Libiedoodle: Facks dun matta to meh.

The Hickoxing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 29, 2014 05:42 PM (IXrOn)

61 Nope. Local story.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 29, 2014 05:40 PM


that story did not last 24 hours

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 29, 2014 05:42 PM (WRseu)

62 MJ talking all sciencey and mathz...hmmm yeah baby.

BRB

Posted by: Fewenuff at October 29, 2014 05:43 PM (zPNX5)

63 >>He does love his guns, most of which he tragically lost in a boating accident.

So sad. *sniff*

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:43 PM (D/504)

64 Mother Jones is white, college educated and single.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2014 05:43 PM (g1DWB)

65 I have noticed (in a very sciency way) that lefties seem to take facts, stomp on them and then make up the necessary numbers to support their own narratives.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2014 05:43 PM (A98Xu)

66 43
It's almost like a journalism major shouldn't be messing with statistics.


Posted by: Lizzy


If you're discussing things journalism majors shouldn't be messing with, that's a pretty large set. Paste is okay for them, though.

Posted by: pep at October 29, 2014 05:43 PM (4nR9/)

67 40 years ago with no internet and only a handful of stations on TV, nobody knew nottin and that is all she wrote folks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 29, 2014 05:44 PM (A7h1e)

68 Let me summarize Ace: "I will shoot scientists on sight."

Posted by: Margaret Carlson at October 29, 2014 05:44 PM (1CroS)

69 So, at my son's school today they had their Halloween party. The rule said no weapons allowed. My son made an extremely cool set of "shurrkins of ice" as used by Zane the White Lego Ninja. They had some cardboard on the ends of some pvc pipe tied together in a triangle. An equilateral triangle.

When I came to the party, he was in tears because the principal had ripped off the cardboard parts because they were "too pointy--someone could put an eye out."

I asked her if she usually destroyed things the kids made rather than take them away in once piece. She just said they were weapons. I told her they were cardboard toys. She said they could have put someone's eye out. I asked if she took away all their pencils, pens and scissors, too.

She said of course not.

Then I asked her if it was her job to break little boy's hearts. She had no answer for that.

Thank the good Lord that we are leaving in January, or someone would end up a lot more butt-hurt than she planned.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)

70 Flash fact: Mother Jones is the wrong magazine to bring to a gunfight.

Posted by: Barry Allen at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (HrUMd)

71 Narrative uber alles. Facts be damned.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (mx5oN)

72 It's the free penguins, Vern, the free penguins...

Posted by: Fewenuff at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (zPNX5)

73 You never see mass shootings on trains. We should have more trains and swimming pools, lots more swimming pools.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (WGm5T)

74 The Science Is Settled!!!

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at October 29, 2014 05:46 PM (MMC8r)

75 He does love his guns, most of which he tragically lost in a boating accident.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:41 PM (lVPtV)

How is the D'oh boy?

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:46 PM (g+qqc)

76 The more terrible under-girding for this is simple. It seems the writer at Mother Jones only considered news articles. If it did not make the paper it never happened. Odd bit of amnesia and troubling if this conjecture is true.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (/Xhke)

77 Science, schmience.

Posted by: Mother Jones at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (fBxC6)

78 Is it just me, or did that mass shooting in WA quiet down way too fast? Did the indian kid not fit the right narrative? This is right before the election and the dems should be screaming, cause they don't have much left. But gun control is always a leftie favorite.


Notice how no one is mentioning the name of the girl that was killed?

And OH, by the way, the poor little psychotic killer texted all the victims to meet him for lunch at the table where they were shot.

Posted by: Unintended Consequences at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (J7NUM)

79 For researchers and I use that term loosely who started working post internet age the very concept that there is information not on Lexis Nexis or available just by googling is beyond them.

Having to use a microfilm machine would make them weep.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (EJx1G)

80 >>Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)

That is so sad! Hope your son can repair the damage.

I suppose you should be happy he wasn't suspended for bringing a "weapon" to school?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:48 PM (D/504)

81 Having to use a microfilm machine would make them weep.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (EJx1G)

They are probably afraid to go to the library because that's where the homeless hang out these days.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:48 PM (g+qqc)

82 I keep forgetting about the gun initiatives in Washington State. So the left has two hope now: Crist over Scott in FL and that anti-gun initiative in Washington State.

Even Mark Warner has been removed to a unknown secure location.

Posted by: Czar Peter -- Czar of Spades at October 29, 2014 05:48 PM (LUHc/)

83 Make the numbers fit the result they want. SCIENCE!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 05:48 PM (KuU4f)

84 >>Notice how no one is mentioning the name of the girl that was killed?

Why is that?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:49 PM (D/504)

85 tcn, he's good. Going to college full time. Living with two roommates in an apartment not too far from us.

Hates TFG as much as his dad and I do.

Took him eight months to get into the VA for an injury he suffered in Shitholistan. And they want him to travel all the way to Charleston, SC to see a doc.

Thanks Preezy McFuckstick. Great job on straightening out the VA.

*seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:49 PM (lVPtV)

86 That is so sad! Hope your son can repair the damage.

I suppose you should be happy he wasn't suspended for bringing a "weapon" to school?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 05:48 PM (D/504)


The power of mom's superglue wins in the end.

And I was rather hoping they would suspend him, so I could just home school him until the end of the semester, but he would really miss his buddies from school, so I suppose I can swallow my inner Grizzly for now and let him go for another couple of months.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:50 PM (g+qqc)

87 Flash fact: If you are defending yourself with a shotgun, you can improve your accuracy by shooting through a closed door.

Posted by: Barry Allen at October 29, 2014 05:50 PM (HrUMd)

88 Thank the good Lord that we are leaving in January, or someone would end up a lot more butt-hurt than she planned.
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)


good on you for fighting back

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 29, 2014 05:50 PM (IXrOn)

89 Notice how no one is mentioning the name of the girl that was killed?

Why is that significant? What was her name?

Posted by: Sambo at October 29, 2014 05:50 PM (sPp6M)

90 Mother Jones is proof that hippies should be beaten, not heard.

Posted by: An I can damn well do it at October 29, 2014 05:51 PM (28pxY)

91 "Did the indian kid not fit the right narrative?"



It seemed more like a crazy kid that had a beef with family members. I guess more of a domestic issue that ended at school. Probably happened there based on convenience.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 29, 2014 05:51 PM (U4SLf)

92 Thanks Preezy McFuckstick. Great job on straightening out the VA.

*seethes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:49 PM (lVPtV)

I think you and I both know that those who serve do it in spite of TFG, rather than in support of him.

Would be nice if they kept their promises to our protectors, but you can't expect serial assholes to do that.

I'm really glad he came home in one piece.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:51 PM (g+qqc)

93 I see no problem with 'Mother Jones' chart, Ace. You are just a denier!

Posted by: michael mann at October 29, 2014 05:51 PM (VDovR)

94 I thought two girls were killed?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:52 PM (lVPtV)

95 It has a certain sciencey-ness, right?

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at October 29, 2014 05:52 PM (MMC8r)

96 Flash fact: bullets travel so fast that if someone stops a potential mass shooting using a personal firearm, there was never going to be a mass shooting to begin with.

Posted by: Barry Allen at October 29, 2014 05:53 PM (HrUMd)

97 You know a Glock can shoot under water and it makes a great game of Marco Polo at my pool parties.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 29, 2014 05:53 PM (WGm5T)

98 Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:45 PM (g+qqc)

Ida knocked a bitch or a bro out with a blunt object.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 05:54 PM (wVWRM)

99 96 and schrodinger says that if you close your eyes it might go away.....

Posted by: Czar Peter -- Czar of Spades at October 29, 2014 05:55 PM (LUHc/)

100 good on you for fighting back
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 29, 2014 05:50 PM (IXrOn)

I have known for some time who the real bullies are at school, and it ain't the kids.

I spent some quality time today with a kindergarten kid who was pitching a serious fit, kicking and screaming, in the principals office. She was trying to hold his arms (so he wouldn't hurt himself, supposedly) and telling him to behave.

Kid was about 10 on the rage-o-meter. Talking was a waste of time and yanking his arms wasn't doing anyone any favors either.

Once he dragged her out of the office, I just scooped him up and held him close and rubbed his back. He told me at top volume that he hated everything. I said I hated everything too.

He looked at me and said, "Really?"

I had him calmed down in about one minute, and off to the Halloween party.

I'm still waiting for this Catholic school to hire a few adults.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:55 PM (g+qqc)

101 Our son has an open carry permit.

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, he's an expert marksman and former military. On the other hand, he gets angry looks from some. And I don't want some street thug targeting him just because.

He does love his guns, most of which he tragically lost in a boating accident.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:41 PM (lVPtV)


Can he conceal carry? I know of people that carried every day even though it was not allowed, but no one ever knew they did.

As far as thugs, most will walk the other way, they would rather pick on the easy victims. But the do-gooder anti-gun psychos may try to sick the police on your kid if they see a "OMG Gun." Google swatting. If they cannot see it, they cannot call the police.

Posted by: rd at October 29, 2014 05:56 PM (J7NUM)

102 Concealed carry is really the way to go. I often have to ask DH if he has his with him. I really can't tell. And that's just fine by me.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 05:57 PM (g+qqc)

103 Posted by: rd at October 29, 2014 05:56 PM (J7NUM)


Yeah, he can conceal, but in certain areas he carries openly.

I want the gun he has. In pink.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:57 PM (lVPtV)

104 Yes no you too can watch vote fraud in person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=YtbqebpV9vY

Posted by: GMB at October 29, 2014 05:57 PM (2wB8W)

105 Mother Jones is just committing liberal taqiyyah.

Posted by: --- at October 29, 2014 05:58 PM (MMC8r)

106 105 Mother Jones is just committing liberal taqiyyah.
Posted by: --- at October 29, 2014 05:58 PM (MMC8r)

This might be the answer to the question we keep asking, as in:
"What in hell are these people thinking?"

Liberals lie and think we believe them.

No wonder they like those goat-humping mass murderers. It isn't the rapey, murdery part, but the bald-faced lying.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:00 PM (g+qqc)

107 Husband's out of town tonight.

I'm torn as to whether to make a nice salad for dinner or order out.

*drums fingers*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:00 PM (lVPtV)

108 Order out. No dishes.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:01 PM (Z1SI2)

109 Lets try that again.

http://tinyurl.com/la5x8fv

I just love Illinois!

Posted by: GMB at October 29, 2014 06:01 PM (2wB8W)

110 The Left is upset that the viral catcalling video meant to show that all men are pigs has almost no white dudes behaving badly.

Left on Left action is so hot!

Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer 1m
Straight white men behaving well are racist http://www.unz.com/isteve/straight-white-men-behaving-well-are-racist/

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 06:01 PM (ZPrif)

111 You could always just eat all the ice cream in the freezer and call that dinner. Not like I've ever done that, but...

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:01 PM (g+qqc)

112 What? The well known leftist front rag Mother Jones LIED? What a surprise!!!!!...eleventy!!..!!!!!

(Do I really need a /sarc tag here?)

I recall many moons ago ('93 or '94) seeing on C-SPAN a conference that was held then at the offices of Mother Jones. The confab was comprised of people from every anti-gun group in the country, and was held to lay out their long term plans for disarming the American populace. Stage 1 was the first Brady bill, which had been passed not long before. Stages 2 through 4 of their plan were laid out in detail. The gist was that by the time Stage 4 was completed, the ownership of any kind of firearm, or ammunition for same, by anyone, would be illegal, and the Feds would have the power to search anyone's property that they thought might be still holding any weapons or ammo.

And you can bet the enforcers who would come to search would still have their guns.

THAT is "Mother Jones"...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud--SMOD is inbound at October 29, 2014 06:02 PM (l1Nun)

113 >>I'm torn as to whether to make a nice salad for dinner or order out.

Order out!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 06:03 PM (D/504)

114 105 Mother Jones is just committing liberal taqiyyah.

Posted by: --- at October 29, 2014 05:58 PM (MMC8r)


One more thing the cult of islam and the cult of leftist utopians have in common. I find it hard to name one thing the two cults do not have in common other than the love of homos.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 29, 2014 06:03 PM (WGm5T)

115 111
You could always just eat all the ice cream in the freezer and call that dinner. Not like I've ever done that, but...

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:01 PM (g+qqc)


Heh. Since the son moved out a few months ago I don't keep anything sweet in the house.

*sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:03 PM (lVPtV)

116 Are they trying to wish away from our collective memory that the murder rate in this country has been cut in half the last 20 years?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 29, 2014 06:03 PM (U4SLf)

117 20
I'm surprised that Mother Jones isn't happy to see the herd thinned via mass shootings.


Posted by: kathysaysso at October 29, 2014 05:30 PM (jPT60)

Not to worry. Working on that.

Posted by: Ron "they call me the ebola man" Klain at October 29, 2014 06:04 PM (0XBx+)

118 Science is so complicated, we need a common core decoder ring to help us.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at October 29, 2014 06:04 PM (WNERA)

119 "Having to use a microfilm machine would make them weep.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at October 29, 2014 05:47 PM (EJx1G)"I'm a millennial, and I've used microfiche. A lot of stuff simply hasn't been digitized.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 06:04 PM (4/i9Y)

120 116 Are they trying to wish away from our collective memory that the murder rate in this country has been cut in half the last 20 years?
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 29, 2014 06:03 PM (U4SLf)

They want to happen in the USA what happened in Australia, one mass shooting and gun control was passed nationwide. That's why they scream when it happens...

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 06:05 PM (4OZqu)

121 118 Science is so complicated, we need a common core decoder ring to help us.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at October 29, 2014 06:04 PM (WNERA)

Got mine from Honey Comb. Sucky cereal but prizes of grandeur

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 06:06 PM (KJLlE)

122 Every graph must have a hockey stick projection or it isn't science, because science is about change and change means rising or falling trend lines because without rising or falling trend lines you have stagnation and that is just unacceptable.

There must be change or we can not progress.

Posted by: Clive Coptic, professional skeptic at October 29, 2014 06:08 PM (3ntXd)

123
107 Husband's out of town tonight.

I'm torn as to whether to make a nice salad for dinner or order out.

*drums fingers*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:00 PM (lVPtV)

Your husband should've made dinner for you before leaving. What a galoot

Jk

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 06:08 PM (KJLlE)

124 So, what qualifies as a "mass" shooting? Two. Three. Maybe Four?

Just in case I need to use my "shurrikins of ice" on somebody, I need to know the proper terminology.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:08 PM (g+qqc)

125 Cream corn, corn on the cob, corn casserole, shredded corn, corn chowder, caramel corn, corn salad, cornbread, corn fritters, scalloped corn.........

Posted by: Bubba Corn at October 29, 2014 06:09 PM (HstNY)

126 Husband's out of town tonight.

I'm torn as to whether to make a nice salad for dinner or order out.

*drums fingers*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:00 PM (lVPtV)



Order out a nice salad.

Or make a quick Chick Fil A run. I love the Cobb there.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at October 29, 2014 06:09 PM (IrByp)

127 James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
I have a feeling @donnabrazile and @DavidCornDC heads are going to explode tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 06:09 PM (ZPrif)

128 127 ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 06:10 PM (l1zOH)

129 It looks like MJ just counted all the mass shooting stories.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:11 PM (0HooB)

130 About 10 years ago, my high school let me dress as a Naruto character (I know, I'm a super weeb) and I had one of the plastic Kunai they sell and some duct tape shuriken. I wonder if today I'd get suspended under 'zero tolerance' rules.

Pretty sure I also brought fake weapons in elementary school as a Ninja Turtle.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 06:11 PM (4/i9Y)

131
Honeycomb's big..

YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!

It's not small...

No! No! No!


Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Of Being (Approximate) Knowledge at October 29, 2014 06:11 PM (IESRt)

132 Actually, Mother Jones may have accidentally had a point.

Let me explain:

There are actually two different kinds if mass shootings (and I'm going to be completely blunt here):

1. Mass shootings in which white people are the victims; and

2. Mass shootings in which white people are not the victims.

Incidents in category 2 tend to get not as much media coverage.

Basically, nobody in the white liberal media commentariat gives a shit when Rastus shoots up a rival street gang and four black gangbangers die.

Ah, but if a schizophrenic white teenager brings a gun to school and go psycho and kills four classmates, it's national news for weeks.

But, surprisingly, black-on-black (or minority-on-minority) mass shooting outnumber white-on-white or even minority-on-white mass shootings.

Which is why when the Reason researcher tracked down all the incidents that Mother Jones missed, he found a whole hell of a lot of them - because they were very likely minority-on-minority crimes that therefore got little publicity and therefore were not found by Mother Jones when they searched the newspapers.

So, Reason technically debunked Mother Jones by pointing out that the frequency of mass shootings overall has remained unchanged.

HOWEVER, they did not disprove the notion that shootings with white victims is increasing.

The very fact that more mass shootings made it to the paper in recent years is very likely due to the fact that more of those shootings involved white people, and thus were deemed newsworthy by the liberal press.

In short: Reason proved that ALL mass shootings are trending neither up nor down; but Mother Jones may have demonstrated that shootings-with-white-victims ARE on the increase.

Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:12 PM (K4YiS)

133 James O'Keefe retweeted
j___eraghty @j___eraghty 8h
That agreeable new guy in your progressive organization asking about unethical stuff? He's probably recording you for @JamesOKeefeIII.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 06:13 PM (ZPrif)

134 A reasonable explanation for not releasing the name of the girl killed in WA is that she was a minor. Have they released *any* of the victims names?

I am also sueprised there hasn't been more "OMG mass shooting!" From the left. Wonder if the teibe made it *very* clear that they wouldn't cooperate in any attempted disarmament.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at October 29, 2014 06:13 PM (GDulk)

135
Order out a nice salad.



Or make a quick Chick Fil A run. I love the Cobb there.







Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at October 29, 2014 06:09 PM (IrByp)



I think I'm going to do a quick pasta dish. Toss some hot pasta with olive oil and parm. and red pepper. Yum.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:13 PM (lVPtV)

136 In short: Reason proved that ALL mass shootings are trending neither up nor down; but Mother Jones may have demonstrated that shootings-with-white-victims ARE on the increase.
Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:12 PM (K4YiS)

This probably just proves that having schools be "no gun zones" is causing fatalities.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:15 PM (g+qqc)

137 Interesting zombie, I may have to fix your wire recorder as a reward.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at October 29, 2014 06:15 PM (WNERA)

138
A is for apple!
J is for jacks!
Cinnamon toasted Apple Jacks!
Lots of crunch in every bite!
Just right for your appetite!

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Of Being (Approximate) Knowledge at October 29, 2014 06:16 PM (IESRt)

139 Once he dragged her out of the office, I just scooped him up and held him close and rubbed his back. He told me at top volume that he hated everything. I said I hated everything too.


Wow, that was awesome, tcn.

That kid will remember that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:16 PM (0HooB)

140 When the Progressives' faith conflicts with reality, reality will always lose in their eyes.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 29, 2014 06:16 PM (lN8KC)

141 I had cereal and blue berries with yogurt. Filling with not too many calories.



Lots of carbs though.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 06:17 PM (0FSuD)

142 "Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:12 PM (K4YiS)"

My best friend got expelled in sixth grade and ended up so stygmatized that he had to move away. All because a girl claimed he had a "hit list." He didn't, of course, and he was probably the least violent kid I knew. But he was a big white kid, a gentle giant, probably somewhere on the Autism spectrum, and he 'fit the profile.' And this was ground zero right after Columbine, and everyone was on high alert. Oh, and he was a gamer, too. That sealed it.

That was my first encounter with all this bullshit, and one of the things that made me start to distrust centralized authority.


Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 06:17 PM (4/i9Y)

143 Newspaper accounts of mass shootings are like the tree rings of global warming.

Next the word, semi-auto will become like the CO2 of greenhouse gasses.

Posted by: Fritz at October 29, 2014 06:17 PM (UzPAd)

144 Jane D'oh!!!! WTF?! How ya doin? How's the D'oh Boy making the transition post Corps?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 29, 2014 06:18 PM (uI+er)

145 In short: Reason proved that ALL mass shootings are trending neither up nor down; but Mother Jones may have demonstrated that shootings-with-white-victims ARE on the increase.
Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:12 PM (K4YiS)


Or perhaps just being reported more?

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 29, 2014 06:18 PM (lN8KC)

146 A reasonable explanation for not releasing the name of the girl killed in WA is that she was a minor. Have they released *any* of the victims names?Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Yes, it's just not front-page news anymore. And they all are minors. It's one of the few ethical courtesies that the MSM generally observes, refraining from using the names of children in crime stories.

I am also surprised there hasn't been more "OMG mass shooting!" From the left. Wonder if the tribe made it *very* clear that they wouldn't cooperate in any attempted disarmament.

I don't think the tribe said anything. The MSM has become preternaturally attuned to potentially awkward stories that involve minorities.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 29, 2014 06:19 PM (k1nNw)

147 Maths: How does it work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:19 PM (0HooB)

148 There's also the issue that psycho kids are kept medicated and mainstreamed as long as possible.

In the past they would have offed themselves or been institutionalized, but now they can be doped up and sent off to the local high school.

Possible this saves some kids, but also makes things worse if and when they do snap.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 06:20 PM (ZPrif)

149 These sterile old maids with their war on boys and men will come back to haunt them. After a woman has a little boy the world changes, men aren't all beasts.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at October 29, 2014 06:20 PM (WNERA)

150 All the lies that's fit to print.

Posted by: YoMama Jones at October 29, 2014 06:21 PM (Dwehj)

151 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 29, 2014 06:18 PM (uI+er)


He's good. In college full time, living in an apartment with two roomies.


Dealing with a back injury from A-stan. For months I believed his story that he "fell off his vehicle." Husband finally told me the boy was blown airborne by a mortar round. The VA has *surprise!* been of no help.


He's dating a girl we're to meet next week. So he's happy. And we're happy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:22 PM (lVPtV)

152 Or perhaps just being reported more?
Posted by: The Gun Hat


Yes, also that -- the internet is like gasoline on any tabloid-y news story. Stuff now "goes national" in a matter of minutes; back in the old days, that wad not necessarily the case.

The more recent in time, the more "viral" things become. Throughout history.

For example, everyone's heard of people like Charles Manson and Ted Bundy and so forth, but there were serial killers back in the Revolutionary War era who were even more psycho and deranged and killed more people than modern killers. But they are not well-known now, and were not even well-known at the time -- an era without daily newspapers in most areas, and no organized police forces.

One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees. A complete maniac, much worse than modern killers. But no one's heard of him.

Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:24 PM (K4YiS)

153 He's dating a girl we're to meet next week. So he's happy. And we're happy.

That's great, Jane D'oh.

Did he ever tell any of his war stories here? I really wanted to read them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:24 PM (0HooB)

154 Jane!

>>Husband finally told me the boy was blown airborne by a mortar round.

Whoa.

>>He's dating a girl we're to meet next week. So he's happy. And we're happy.

Yay!

(I've almost lost my voice, so I'm trying not to talk much.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 06:25 PM (0xTsz)

155 "One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies
by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e.
Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees. A complete
maniac, much worse than modern killers. But no one's heard of him.

Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:24 PM (K4YiS)"Must have been a lot easier to get away with being a serial killer back in the day, if you were smart about it. I'm sure there were a lot of them that never got caught.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 06:26 PM (4/i9Y)

156 Ahhhh... but you see...

The Left truly believes that Perception is Reality.

If you don't HEAR about something, like reading it in the newspaper, you do not Perceive that it exists.... therefore, it does not.

Therefore... a search of newspapers gives you Reality.... not that messy science and statistics stuff.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2014 06:26 PM (f0pWu)

157 Sorry for going off topic, but I gotta vent. I was just reading the Lena Dunham pervert thread below. Wow, just wow. She can brazenly talk about diddling her little toddler sister and molesting her and that's ok. The left not only does not condemn her, but pays her huge amounts of money to flaunt her incredible nude ugliness on a TV show. Imagine if Sarah Palin gave an interview and talked of openly molesting her little sister. Yes, there are two America's right now, and two very distinct peoples. There's a big clash coming. These people have basked in the full glory of their unfettered, demented liberalism for 6 years now. They will not let that power go easily.

Posted by: Havedash at October 29, 2014 06:27 PM (G1XMn)

158 So many thread-winners above, just wow, go Horde !

I'm glad someone takes the time to do formal debunkings of all the crap the media spews, I mostly just assume that anything the US media tells me on a wide variety of subjects is a boldface lie.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 29, 2014 06:27 PM (jNNWD)

159 One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees. A complete maniac, much worse than modern killers. But no one's heard of him.
Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:24 PM (K4YiS)

Well, he was just helping out with post-birth abortions... Practically a hero really.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at October 29, 2014 06:27 PM (3+/nF)

160 >>One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out
of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and
bashing their heads in on trees. A complete maniac, much worse than
modern killers. But no one's heard of him.

What a waste!

Posted by: Alferd Packer at October 29, 2014 06:28 PM (D/504)

161 Did he ever tell any of his war stories here? I really wanted to read them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:24 PM (0HooB)



I don't think he's ever commented here. This past year (he's been in-active reserves for one year now) he's opened up a bit more. Said that twice he's convinced prayers saved his life.

Makes me cry the stuff we've learned. He's a strong, brave young man. He's active with our church youth and his BSA troop.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:28 PM (lVPtV)

162 Thank God he came home safe Jane. You raised a good kid.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:30 PM (Z1SI2)

163 162 Thank God he came home safe Jane. You raised a good kid.
Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:30 PM (Z1SI2)

+1000

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 06:31 PM (4OZqu)

164 162 Thank God he came home safe Jane. You raised a good kid.
Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:30 PM (Z1SI2)

+1000

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 06:31 PM (4OZqu)

165 Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:28 PM (lVPtV

May God continue His blessings

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 06:31 PM (KJLlE)

166 >>>One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees. A complete maniac, much worse than modern killers. But no one's heard of him.<<<

Hillary Clinton has recently had to curtail her prolific activities now that she's restricted by a walker. Harry Reid, on the other hand, can still work his magic finger puppets with pharmaceutical regularity.

Posted by: Fritz at October 29, 2014 06:31 PM (UzPAd)

167 Must have been a lot easier to get away with being a serial killer back in the day, if you were smart about it. I'm sure there were a lot of them that never got caught.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean


Another factor to consider:

Native Americans would also stage raids during this era and kill and scalp people and carry away children. And Native American raids were much more common that serial killer murders. So the folks out in the cabins had more pressing matters to worry about that some random maniac. They had whole tribes of people who seemed to the settlers to be acting like maniacs.

Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:32 PM (K4YiS)

168
151>> Well I am so happy to hear you guys are OK after all this time, and you're happy. I'd just like to say if there anything I can do for you, just email me.

Semper Fi!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 29, 2014 06:32 PM (uI+er)

169 I don't care if the damn chart goes straight up.

Mass shootings have nothing to do with the Consititutional Right To Keep and Bear Arms.

Except that maybe there aren't enough people bearing.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2014 06:33 PM (1Y+hH)

170 Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:32 PM (K4YiS)

Damnation.... did they kidnap Rebecca AGAIN???

Posted by: Daniel Boone, episode 27 at October 29, 2014 06:33 PM (f0pWu)

171 Socialists? Wrong? Really?

Posted by: Iggy Slanter at October 29, 2014 06:33 PM (osMCQ)

172 Makes me cry the stuff we've learned. He's a strong, brave young man. He's active with our church youth and his BSA troop.

I'm glad to hear he and you are OK. Send him a big ol' hound dawg howdy for us and thank him for his service.

I'm glad God watched over him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:33 PM (0HooB)

173 @ 143
Hey, watch what you are sayin'. Tree rings are absolutely reliable evidence that global warming is real! So, give most of your money to centralized govm't that knows best and stop being such denier haters!

Posted by: michael mann at October 29, 2014 06:34 PM (VDovR)

174 zombie, thanks for that interesting thought.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 29, 2014 06:34 PM (jNNWD)

175 So glad your son made it home safely, Jane D'Oh!
You must be very proud of him.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 06:34 PM (D/504)

176 Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:28 PM (lVPtV)

Hi Jane, so good to hear from you and hear the good news about the D'oh boy.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2014 06:35 PM (1Y+hH)

177 Wow just caught the clip from Jen Psaki on the anonymous sources calling Bibi as chickensh*t. Says the White House is not going to try and find out who the sources are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:35 PM (/Xhke)

178 >>Native Americans would also stage raids during this era and kill and scalp people and carry away children.

I have a relative, Hannah Dustin, who was kidnapped by Indians, along with her midwife, after they brained her newborn baby. She ended up killing and scalping her captors in order to escape. Hate to think of what the PC peeps would think of her actions today.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 29, 2014 06:37 PM (D/504)

179 168

151>> Well I am so happy to hear you guys are OK after all
this time, and you're happy. I'd just like to say if there anything I
can do for you, just email me.

Semper Fi!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 29, 2014 06:32 PM (uI+er)



Thanks. You're a sweetheart. We're good.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:37 PM (lVPtV)

180
Zombeavers.

anyone seen it?

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Of Being (Approximate) Knowledge at October 29, 2014 06:37 PM (IESRt)

181 Damn I can't wait for this election cycle to be over.

Because I'm a Wise-ass Latina (stiletto, not sombrero), I get the occasional call to speak with ((here they pronounce my name with lots of labial fricative and palate frottage, and not with my usual Midwestern honk)) about the Democratic candidate. I always tell them I don't play the identity politics game and they should be ashamed to ghettoize me! It's great fun to hear them backpeddle on the ethnic solidarity crap.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:38 PM (QBm1P)

182

Kaolaraptor.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Of Being (Approximate) Knowledge at October 29, 2014 06:38 PM (IESRt)

183 RIP, Gia Soriano, who was shot last Friday at Marysville Pilchuck High School. She was 15.

My Boy, who attended Kindergarten with her just told me she died on Monday. He showed me her picture in his Kindergarten year book. Apparently he gave her a Barbie doll for her 6th birthday.

Very glad I got my Kids out of that school district and into a good Christian school.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 29, 2014 06:39 PM (6fTHn)

184 Hmmm, this may be them:

"Micajah "Big" Harpe (1768? - August 1799) and Wiley "Little" Harpe (1770? - February 8, 1804), pronounced (mickey) and (Why-lee), were murderers, highwaymen, and river pirates, who operated in Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, and Mississippi in the late 18th century. Their crimes appear to have been motivated more by blood lust than financial gain and many historians have called them America's first true "serial killers"

...


As young men, the Harpes lived with renegade Creek and Cherokee Indians who committed atrocities against white settlers and against their own tribes. By 1797 the Harpes were living near Knoxville, Tennessee. However, they were driven from the town after being charged with stealing hogs and horses. They were also accused of murdering a man named Johnson, whose body was found in a river, covered in urine, ripped open and weighted with stones. This became a characteristic of the Harpes' murders. They butchered anyone at the slightest provocation, even babies. R.E. Banta in The Ohio claims that Micajah Harpe even bashed his infant daughter's head against a tree because her constant crying annoyed him. This was the only crime for which he would later confess genuine remorse. From Knoxville they fled north into Kentucky. They entered the state on the Wilderness Road, near the Cumberland Gap. They are believed to have murdered a peddler named Peyton, taking his horse and some of his goods. They then murdered two travelers from Maryland."

etc. etc.

Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:39 PM (K4YiS)

185 The other thing these graphs show is how uncommon these shootings are. It's just a handful per 100 million. Gun grabbers call the ones who carry fearful, but they want to pass feelgood laws that won't even have any effect stopping these rare events.

Posted by: stace at October 29, 2014 06:39 PM (ImzkZ)

186 If this state elects Jimmuh's idiot grandson for governor, I'm.....

....ah hell. And Michelle Nunn looks like her dad in drag.

Jack Kingston should have won over Perdue, but I'll hold my nose and vote for him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:39 PM (lVPtV)

187 Wow, that was awesome, tcn.

That kid will remember that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:16 PM (0HooB)

That's just it. Any mom would do this. It isn't out of the ordinary.

Why in hell the school "officials" can't figure out "basic kid" is beyond me.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:41 PM (g+qqc)

188 The AR-47, choice weapon of drug dealers, gang members, and the NRA, is a fully semi-sutomatic machine gun, and can gun spray hundreds of rounds with just a few pulls of the trigger while simultaneously being used to bayonet kittens.

Posted by: Don Lemon Party at October 29, 2014 06:43 PM (28pxY)

189 >>>....ah hell. And Michelle Nunn looks like her dad in drag.
-------

Actually I think he would have looked better in drag than her

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 06:44 PM (KJLlE)

190
Why in hell the school "officials" can't figure out "basic kid" is beyond me.

Maybe they don't have kids. Remember the Union before anything else. There are also all kinds of rules, I am sure, about touching kids these days.

Mine have been out of school for some time.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:44 PM (Z1SI2)

191 Except that maybe there aren't enough people bearing.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2014 06:33 PM (1Y+hH)

Gun free zones are killing our children.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:44 PM (g+qqc)

192 188 The AR-47, choice weapon of drug dealers, gang members, and the NRA, is a fully semi-sutomatic machine gun, and can gun spray hundreds of rounds with just a few pulls of the trigger while simultaneously being used to bayonet kittens.
Posted by: Don Lemon Party at October 29, 2014 06:43 PM (28pxY)

But it doesn't hurt the puppies? right?

Posted by: B Leadin Hart at October 29, 2014 06:45 PM (4OZqu)

193 >>>with just a few pulls of the trigger while simultaneously being used to bayonet kittens.
-------

Kittens don't do it for me. Now, puppies on the other hand

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 06:45 PM (KJLlE)

194 Yep All Hail Eris, amazing how the party that is screaming equality is very happy to categorize everyone in thirty different ways.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:46 PM (/Xhke)

195 Via Insty

WI Gov candidate Burke was fired, by her family, for incompetence...

http://tinyurl.com/mdl2zxe


Posted by: davidt at October 29, 2014 06:46 PM (fBxC6)

196 Maybe they don't have kids. Remember the Union before anything else. There are also all kinds of rules, I am sure, about touching kids these days.

Mine have been out of school for some time.
Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2014 06:44 PM (Z1SI2)

This is a Catholic school, so, no unions. And in WI, so again, no unions. If it was okay for the principal to yank the kids arms, it was probably okay to pick him up and soothe him. This is kindergarten--just babies really, in school age.

I'm going to assume the idiots in charge are just idiots, and go forward with that.

I'd even settle for that, if they hadn't lied to me about how my son's toy got broken.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:46 PM (g+qqc)

197 >>One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees. A complete maniac, much worse than modern killers. But no one's heard of him.

I had never heard of H.H. Holmes until I read The Devil in the White City. He is thought to have murdered as many as 200 people in his custom built murder castle and I had never heard of the guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2014 06:47 PM (g1DWB)

198 Pretty sure I also brought fake weapons in elementary school as a Ninja Turtle.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 29, 2014 06:11 PM (4/i9Y)
-----------
I dressed up as a Nazgul (nerd alert!!) in junior high and carried a seppuku knife my dad liberated from its late unlamented user.

Don't recall mass panic. Mostly "cool!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:47 PM (QBm1P)

199 This is a case where Math! beats Science!

Posted by: wooga at October 29, 2014 06:47 PM (/Tpqt)

200 WI Gov candidate Burke was fired, by her family, for incompetence...

http://tinyurl.com/mdl2zxe

Yeah, and everyone around here knows it. Won't stop the union shills from voting for her, though.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (g+qqc)

201 Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 05:49 PM (lVPtV)


Very late to the party as I have been off the grid for a few days, but I am glad you have returned to AoS and that the D'oh boy is doing well. I am sure others have said this, but you were missed!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (o3MSL)

202 Don't recall mass panic. Mostly "cool!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:47 PM (QBm1P)

Yeah, but did you put out somebody's eye with it?

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (g+qqc)

203 Can college educated single white women get a ballot for each one of their cats? If they can, were done for.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (NLYaJ)

204 "Did the indian kid not fit the right narrative?"

That was my impression judging by the outpouring of sympathy toward the shooter and the shooter's family and entire tribal community, and very little in the way of sympathy toward his victims. Was there such generous sympathy for the families of the Columbine shooters? Nope. Sandy Hook? Nope. UC San Diego? Nope.

Moreover, the stories immediately afterward were quickly trying to paint the shooter as a good kid. Seems to me, in the other cases, the media immediately looked for evidence that the shooters were "troubled."

Posted by: fly gal at October 29, 2014 06:49 PM (8TdcF)

205 The Left wants to stigmatize any kind of weapon as this great harbinger of death and destruction so any weapon will be avoided like unshielded Plutonium. Its all about using fear to control.

The type of person the Progressive-Socialists likes to produce if the Bene Gessarit tested them would classify them as animals.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:50 PM (/Xhke)

206 That's just it. Any mom would do this. It isn't out of the ordinary.

Why in hell the school "officials" can't figure out "basic kid" is beyond me.


Hmm, not any mom. Mumsy Dearest's first reaction was pretty much the exact opposite.

You're a dear heart and a gentle soul. Regardless of how the Horde carries on in here, I'm pretty sure we're all that way. Except the trolls, naturally.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:50 PM (0HooB)

207 Posted by: GMB at October 29, 2014 05:57 PM (2wB8W)

Oddly, no I can't.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 06:50 PM (wVWRM)

208 203
Can college educated single white women get a ballot for each one of their cats? If they can, were done for.


Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (NLYaJ)

They have to bring them to the polls, big problem.

http://tinyurl.com/bt92lg

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 06:51 PM (0FSuD)

209 Yep All Hail Eris, amazing how the party that is screaming equality is very happy to categorize everyone in thirty different ways.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:46 PM (/Xhke)
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Of course they think I'm Hispanic. Why isn't anyone pandering to the paisans and micks anymore?

Why doesn't anyone care enough to buy my vote? I feel slighted.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:51 PM (QBm1P)

210 >>he other thing these graphs show is how uncommon these shootings are.

Stace,

I just read about the guy with a knife in the Del Rio Walmart. Stopped by a guy with a gun.

I guess it happened a while ago, but nobody heard much about it.

I'll go find the link...

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 06:52 PM (0xTsz)

211 It's a little warm in here, somebody open the window, wouldja?

*minor episode of projectile vomiting over emasculated boyfriends lap*

That's nothing, I spoon fed a black baby, so I'm immune.

Posted by: Kaci Hichcocks at October 29, 2014 06:52 PM (zxQ4h)

212 Yeah, but did you put out somebody's eye with it?
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 06:48 PM (g+qqc)
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That's why God gives us two of them. And eye patches are cool, and chicks dig scars!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:52 PM (QBm1P)

213 Native Americans would also stage raids during this era and kill and scalp people and carry away children. And Native American raids were much more common that serial killer murders. So the folks out in the cabins had more pressing matters to worry about that some random maniac. They had whole tribes of people who seemed to the settlers to be acting like maniacs.
Posted by: zombie at October 29, 2014 06:32 PM (K4YiS)

Oh jeez, read Imdian Depredations in Texas, or any history of settling the Edwards Plateau. Decades of ranchwives turned into pin cushions, babies dragged or bashed to death, women and children kidnapped. I remember one story of a toddler girl who was kidnapped and tied to a Comanche horse's tail, so she was gradually kicked to pieces. The ranchers trailed them by finding pieces of her guts.

Posted by: stace at October 29, 2014 06:53 PM (ImzkZ)

214 Next the word, semi-auto will become like the CO2 Argon of greenhouse gasses.
Posted by: Fritz

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Just saying...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 06:53 PM (l1zOH)

215 Irish names like Cuevas. How did that name get into Ireland? Spanish Armada anyone and survivors washing ashore maybe?

If magnets confuse them, various forms of migration seem to also. The world is not static no matter how much they wish it to be.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:53 PM (/Xhke)

216 Just sitting here reading all the comments.
Really enjoying seeing Jane's nic and hearing Doh boy is doing well.
And a number of my horde faves are here so back to reading and....
Go Royals!!!!

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 29, 2014 06:54 PM (vOkF1)

217 They can pry the black handle thingee that goes up out of my cold dead hands.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 06:54 PM (NLYaJ)

218 The AR-47, choice weapon of drug dealers, gang members, and the NRA, is a fully semi-sutomatic machine gun, and can gun spray hundreds of rounds with just a few pulls of the trigger while simultaneously being used to bayonet kittens.

Posted by: Don Lemon Party at October 29, 2014 06:43 PM (28pxY)


The last part's my favorite.

Posted by: Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (lN8KC)

219 Greta is on. Barry and his minions ignoring ISIS.

And my pasta is yummy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (lVPtV)

220 @207

I know bad link.

Try my next post or go to Illinois Review. Thats where the story came from.

Posted by: GMB at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (2wB8W)

221 Guy with gun stops guy with knife.

Doesn't even need to draw his gun.

Link to the Blaze

http://tinyurl.com/n6coh53

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (0xTsz)

222 One psychopath around 1800 killed dozens of babies by snatching them out of people's cabins on the "frontier" (i.e. Kentucky, Virginia) and bashing their heads in on trees.

He was just ahead of the curve, that's all.

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (mx5oN)

223 Jane D'oh! So glad to see you!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 06:57 PM (KuU4f)

224 Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 06:52 PM (QBm1P)


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 06:53 PM (/Xhke)

Dammit, you people are supposed to be easier to label. I wish you would quit moving around so much so I could assign you to the correct grievance group permanently.

Posted by: Hrothgar Ethnicity Tsar for a Day at October 29, 2014 06:58 PM (o3MSL)

225 221 Go home and get your crossbow, piker.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 06:58 PM (NLYaJ)

226 CrotchetyOldJarhead, I don't know if you're still here, but I may have missed your response this morning.

I was wondering if you were ok?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 06:59 PM (KuU4f)

227 He was just ahead of the curve, that's all.

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (mx5oN)



Post-birth abortion...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:59 PM (0HooB)

228 while simultaneously being used to bayonet kittens.

Posted by: Don Lemon Party at October 29, 2014 06:43 PM (28pxY)

The last part's my favorite.
Posted by: Jean-Baptiste
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As I pointed out earlier, it is the anniversary of Bill Maudlin's birthday. One of his cartoons that works :
http://tinyurl.com/pn87u8l

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (l1zOH)

229 Hrothgar darling, my family immigrated to New Orleans in the 1850s. Since then we have inter-married with Irish, Italian, English, Hispanic, and just about every other group. Go ahead try to label us.

That is how insane the Democrats and their 'one drop' world view is.

My parents told me as a child that I am not Irish or German or whatever, I am an American.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (/Xhke)

230 Post-birth abortion...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 06:59 PM (0HooB)

Always wondered why the concept of post-birth abortion up to the age of 26 (when they have to get off the parents healthcare insurance) never really caught on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (o3MSL)

231 Got it GMB.

Sadly in some locales carrying video device into a pollo___ booth is illegal.

DOJ soon to arrive.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (wVWRM)

232
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 06:55 PM (0xTsz)

Thanks for the link! I hadn't heard that, and no surprise since the presstitutes like to keep a lid on those stories.

Posted by: stace at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (ImzkZ)

233 Oops. Mauldin

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (l1zOH)

234 I wonder if there'll be a WS Game 7 thread?

Shirley there are elbows to be deployed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:02 PM (0HooB)

235 @231

In NC you can not bring your cell phone into the polling area.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:02 PM (0FSuD)

236 Polling**?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:03 PM (wVWRM)

237 Dammit, you people are supposed to be easier to label. I wish you would quit moving around so much so I could assign you to the correct grievance group permanently.
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Yorkshire white trash here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 07:03 PM (l1zOH)

238 My parents told me as a child that I am not Irish or German or whatever, I am an American.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (/Xhke)

What a novel New World concept. Reminiscent of RR saying that not everyone could become British, but anyone could become an American! Good on them!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:04 PM (o3MSL)

239 Hello Nip. Hoping for the best Tuesday.

No one has ever stopped me. Weird.

That would be cause for a riot on the south side of town.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:05 PM (wVWRM)

240 I hope this news out of NZ means PM Key has created a panel to distract the loony elements. Vote on a new flag for NZ.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29812549

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:05 PM (/Xhke)

241 True Seattle shooter was less a spree killer and more a woman abuse case

Shooter dated 14 year old girlfriend since they were in 7th grade. It's very clear from their tweets she slept over at his house and they smoked pot and drank together.

Last summer she suspected him of cheating. They fought. There are allegations he beat her. Her family insists she break up with him. She does this fall. Then his 17 year old cousin starts dating her

He becomes unglued. He invites all her friends at his school to lunch. He also invites the little brother of the cousin who is dating her.

While he waits for them he texts her a selfie of him waiting for them with a hand gun between his legs. He sent a message with the photo but authorities will not say what it said. Authorities do say the message was meant to hurt her

When all her friends he invited to lunch at seated at the table, he approaches them and shoots them, and then kills himself.

The tribe is falling all over itself to bury this. The woman at the tribe who is in charge of domestic abuse prevention programs on the reservation is insistent the shooter must have had some trouble straddling two worlds. Not that he was an abuser. Over and over again tribal spokesman say he was a good boy. These tribes are run like the mafia

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:06 PM (zOTsN)

242 Holy crap. I hadn't heard until now (on Greta) that Preezy Choom Boy said our troops are under different quarantine orders because

they're not volunteers

No. Fucking. Works.

*twitches*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 07:06 PM (lVPtV)

243 240 They should go with the Southern Cross.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:07 PM (NLYaJ)

244 works = words

*rage headache*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 29, 2014 07:07 PM (lVPtV)

245 Posted by: Hrothgar Ethnicity Tsar for a Day at October 29, 2014 06:58 PM (o3MSL)
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Are you a Berserker-American?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:07 PM (QBm1P)

246 @231

That vid is now up on Drudge. Illinois Review made the big time!

Posted by: GMB at October 29, 2014 07:08 PM (2wB8W)

247 Kill all humans... Kill all humans... Kill all humans... Oh! Hi! (Yawn) I was just having the most wonderful dream! And you were there! We had fun!

Posted by: Bender at October 29, 2014 07:08 PM (fBxC6)

248 Elbows?
Elbows?
There are no elbows in baseball.
Well, not since Morganna anyway.
wonders if any of those vids are on utube

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 29, 2014 07:08 PM (vOkF1)

249 I hope this news out of NZ means PM Key has created a panel to distract the loony elements. Vote on a new flag for NZ.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29812549

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:05 PM (/Xhke)


Speaking of the New Zealand Prime Minister..

http://tinyurl.com/mcefood

Posted by: The Space Pope at October 29, 2014 07:08 PM (lN8KC)

250 Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:06 PM (zOTsN)

I see it everyday. Mafia? Err. Whores.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:08 PM (wVWRM)

251 I sure hope Matt doesn't tell anybody.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:09 PM (NLYaJ)

252 39 And ALL serial killers are white.
Except for the beltway snipers, and a whole bunch of other non-whites....

Posted by: Lizzy

A terrific book by sociologist Elliott Leyton "Hunting Humans" was a bestseller on the topic of serial killers. As I recall the connection was that serial killers felt held back from what they should have achieved and took it out on those who held him back or against that most prized by those who held him back. (failed law student Ted Bundy preyed on upper class college girls). There's lots of examples in the book. High personal expectations tied to personal failure and an identifiable group that is perceived to be holding one back). This is a recipe that Obama, Holder, Rev Al and the rest of the race hustlers have been cooking up for years among young blacks ('white privilege is holding us down") and why in my opinion black serial killers have become less of an exception and will be more prevalent that they have been in the past.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 29, 2014 07:09 PM (TIgJq)

253 As I pointed out earlier, it is the anniversary of Bill Maudlin's birthday.

Mauldin. He was never maudlin. And hopefully he's in heaven quaffing root beers with Snoopy.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:09 PM (mx5oN)

254 I've got bacon meatloaf in the oven and it smells heavenly. BRB.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:09 PM (QBm1P)

255 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 07:03 PM (l1zOH)

Scots, Yorkshire English, and Irish (just ahead of being transported) here.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:09 PM (o3MSL)

256 They should go with the Southern Cross.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:07 PM (NLYaJ)


A little mood music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpDvQj9tESg

Posted by: Zor at October 29, 2014 07:10 PM (lN8KC)

257 Ah, I'd missed that idiocy of Obama, claiming he can order around the volunteer military at will cause they aren't volunteers.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 07:10 PM (ZPrif)

258 Yorkshire white trash here.

Heh. When I was a wee Moron, Mumsy Dearest came home from the library one day after researching the family tree, fit to be tied.

Me: "What's wrong?"

Mumsy: "Dammit! I found a ni**er in our lineage today!"

She wasn't happy to hear me laugh. At. All. Did I mention how bigoted she was?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:10 PM (0HooB)

259 It appears Kerry might be jettisoned from Star Ship Obama.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at October 29, 2014 07:10 PM (XzRw1)

260 But All Hail Eris, do you have enough for the whole Horde??

Well TPH, that is certainly an interesting post. Ready to roast some Slor then?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:11 PM (/Xhke)

261 Are you a Berserker-American?



Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:07 PM (QBm1P)

Only in my heart of hearts!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:11 PM (o3MSL)

262 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:10 PM (0HooB)

Best not ask the question you don't want answered.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:12 PM (wVWRM)

263 He should dump Kerry and make Rashid Khaledi Secretary of State. More honest

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:12 PM (zOTsN)

264 Hrothgar darling, my family immigrated to New Orleans in the 1850s. Since then we have inter-married with Irish, Italian, English, Hispanic, and just about every other group.

Go ahead try to label us....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:01 PM (/Xhke)



Challenge accepted!



Where y'at?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 29, 2014 07:12 PM (0cMkb)

265 Polling**?

You prolly inadvertently typed i-m-g. Years ago, I figured out how to post an i-m-a-g-e at AoS and Pixy has been relentlessly closing every possible avenue of me ever doing that again. My very last i-m-a-g-e that snuck past Pixy was B'roke and Jimma Carter, hand in hand.

It repulsed even me. Maybe even especially me.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (zxQ4h)

266 259 Isn't there a tired maxim about changing horses midstream?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (NLYaJ)

267 Scots, Yorkshire English, and Irish (just ahead of being transported) here.
Posted by: Hrothgar
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On my mother's side, we had one 'transported' to Barbados. He picked the losing side of the Monmouth Rebellion. He was lucky, hundreds were hanged.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (l1zOH)

268 OT, but I found this 2000 documentary about Russian rocket engines and how they came to be used in the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbl_ofF3AM

In some ways, they were more efficient than American designs.

The documentary is 49 minutes long. I've only watched the first 18 minutes, but that's enough for me to recommend it. There is some rarely-seen footage of early Soviet rocket failures. It's easy to find footage of American failures. It's all over YouTube, and in movies like The Right Stuff.

Posted by: rickl at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

269 Seattle shooter is more like the guy who shows up at his ex wife's house and kills the family and then himself

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:14 PM (zOTsN)

270 I still can not believe that there is still 6% of NC voters that are undecided.


Tillis said that's what their polls show. WTF after a $100 mill has been spent how the hell could anyone not have a clue who they are supporting?



The winning combination is we take 2% from the Pizza Delivery guy and take 2/3's of the 6% undecided.



Burr thinks we will win by 52% or 53%. He was sober when he told me that.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:14 PM (0FSuD)

271 BB, I used to laugh at the people here who claimed that Dutch people weren't Scandis.

Then I got an Ancestry dot com account and found ancestors who went from Amsterdam to New Amsterdam.*

Now it is clear to me that 'Scandi' should be more narrowly defined.


*In addition to finding 3 women tried for witchcraft. Three. Someday my husband will stop laughing.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:15 PM (0xTsz)

272 rickl, I am waiting for Putin to embargo those engines. Then watch NASA get the super sour lemon face.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:15 PM (/Xhke)

273 @266
Yep. Tower of Power even did a song using that one.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 29, 2014 07:16 PM (vOkF1)

274 Seattle shooter is more like the guy who shows up at his ex wife's house and kills the family and then himself
Posted by: ThunderB
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"I killed her cuz I loved her."

Posted by: What they all say... at October 29, 2014 07:16 PM (l1zOH)

275 **shoves bacon meatloaf through the pneumatic tubes**

Enjoy, Hordelings!

Also, some concorde grapes from exotic Paw Paw, Michigan!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:17 PM (QBm1P)

276 272 rickl, I am waiting for Putin to embargo those engines. Then watch NASA get the super sour lemon face.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:15 PM (/Xhke)

Maybe with all the muslim outreach they'll lend NASA Mohammed's flying horse.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:17 PM (mx5oN)

277 Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (zxQ4h)

That's as good an explanation as any. And I'm taking a veterans word for it. Img

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:17 PM (wVWRM)

278 *In addition to finding 3 women tried for witchcraft. Three. Someday my husband will stop laughing.
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:15 PM (0xTsz)
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Did they sink? Innocent!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:18 PM (QBm1P)

279 272
rickl, I am waiting for Putin to embargo those engines. Then watch NASA get the super sour lemon face.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:15 PM (/Xhke)

Putin won't do that. he needs the cash.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:19 PM (0FSuD)

280 Burr thinks we will win by 52% or 53%. He was sober when he told me that.
Posted by: Nip
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It's going to be a squeaker, and the Dems are shit-stirring the race pot as hard as they can.

Did you, btw, see the segment following Brandon on Al-Jazeera last night?

Posted by: What they all say... at October 29, 2014 07:19 PM (l1zOH)

281 *In addition to finding 3 women tried for witchcraft. Three. Someday my husband will stop laughing.

He'll stop laughing when you turn him into a newt.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:19 PM (mx5oN)

282 BB, I used to laugh at the people here who claimed that Dutch people weren't Scandis.


Color me shocked on the day one of the Horde informed me of the Viking roots of the Irish. I honestly had no idea.

If I had the money, I'd like to have my DNA worked up. The results would probably come back as "pretty much everybody."

That 'splains a lot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:19 PM (0HooB)

283 "I killed her cuz I loved her."

Posted by: What they all say... at October 29, 2014 07:16 PM (l1zOH)


Except he didn't kill her. He killed her friends. So she has to live the rest of her life feeling guilty that her actions killed them.
It's truly pathological. He was a sick young man.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 07:20 PM (KuU4f)

284 Something for the Caterday ONT?



http://tinyurl.com/mdszhl3

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:22 PM (0FSuD)

285 No convictions. Was just looking at one of the legal documents. So funny to see the familiar format from so long ago and for witchcraft.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:22 PM (0xTsz)

286 She went to a different high school. Otherwise I think she would be dead too

I am pretty sure the text he sent her said something along th lines of " you took away who I love so I am taking away all those you love"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:22 PM (zOTsN)

287 282 BB, I used to laugh at the people here who claimed that Dutch people weren't Scandis.


Color me shocked on the day one of the Horde informed me of the Viking roots of the Irish. I honestly had no idea.

If I had the money, I'd like to have my DNA worked up. The results would probably come back as "pretty much everybody."

That 'splains a lot.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:19 PM (0HooB)

"Beyond the pale" - meant go outside the Scandi areas of Ireland

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 07:22 PM (4OZqu)

288 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:14 PM (0FSuD)

God bless you Nip. Wish I had FaceTime with these folks.

I'd only have it once. Security would escort me away and cross me off the list.

You really need to advise the Horde when you have these opportunities. Bet you could get some bang up questions to offer. I bet they'd be much less snarky than what I have in mind.

Well, some anyway.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:22 PM (wVWRM)

289 @280

No didn't see it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:23 PM (0FSuD)

290 It's also why 14 and 15 year olds shouldn't be having sex with each other -- they can't handle it emotionally.

Also, mental illness often develops in the teenage years -- the longer you wait, the lower the chance you get involved with a psycho.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 07:23 PM (ZPrif)

291 The documentary is 49 minutes long. I've only watched the first 18 minutes, but that's enough for me to recommend it. There is some rarely-seen footage of early Soviet rocket failures. It's easy to find footage of American failures. It's all over YouTube, and in movies like The Right Stuff.

Posted by: rickl at October 29, 2014 07:13 PM (sdi6R)



Very cool vid. It's also sad what NASA has become. From crew cuts, skinny black ties, men with brains, brawn, and true guts to muslim outreach and imaginary global warming.

Posted by: Havedash at October 29, 2014 07:23 PM (G1XMn)

292 Unasked questions are why was a 14 year old girl spending the night with her 15 year old boyfriend? Where are they getting to booze and the pot? Where are the parents? Why didn't daddy lock up the handgun? Why the tribal white wash of this kid


I denounce myself

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:24 PM (zOTsN)

293 Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:17 PM (QBm1P)

De licious!

Thanks, I needed that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:24 PM (o3MSL)

294 279 -- Nip Sip -- That he does; however, I'd keep a sharp eye on those engines... I wouldn't put it past Putin to sell us rocket motors made of (mostly) ChiCom knock-off parts.

And increase the price to boot...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 29, 2014 07:25 PM (lJaja)

295 Not to mention heavy pot use in teens can bring out psychoses

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (zOTsN)

296 Golfman, I've known these guys for 20 years or so. Politics is a cult. I am in it, have been since Goldwater.


These guys are just regular people trying their best. It's a pretty thankless job.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (0FSuD)

297 Ancestry dot com has a cool DNA test for $99. I'm going to ask for that for Christmas.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (0xTsz)

298 Cpt Charles and Nip Sip, worry when the rocket motor inspection is signed by Baba Yaga.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:27 PM (/Xhke)

299 295 Not to mention heavy pot use in teens can bring out psychoses
Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (zOTsN)

It's the pans that really send them over the edge.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:28 PM (mx5oN)

300 Ancestry dot com has a cool DNA test for $99. I'm going to ask for that for Christmas.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (0xTsz)

Complete privacy is assured, right? Asking for a friend!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:28 PM (o3MSL)

301 300 Ancestry dot com has a cool DNA test for $99. I'm going to ask for that for Christmas.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (0xTsz)

Complete privacy is assured, right? Asking for a friend!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:28 PM (o3MSL)

Be interesting if you could send in POTUS

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 07:29 PM (4OZqu)

302 It's the pans that really send them over the edge.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:28 PM (mx5oN)


Especially the Dutch Ovens.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 07:29 PM (KuU4f)

303 Ancestry dot com has a cool DNA test for $99.

How many chances do I get to pass it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 29, 2014 07:30 PM (W5DcG)

304 Right, but if your daughter is still keeping her 14 year old boyfriend above the waistline, it'll be a lot easier to disengage if he turns out to develop serious mental illness. It'll be easier for her to cut off contact (less emotionally invested) and less traumatic for psycho kid (same reason).

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 29, 2014 07:30 PM (ZPrif)

305 I took that DNA test. My mothers people are Scottish and norwegian. But the test came back with a pretty sizeable portion of English. The part of Scotland they were from were in the borderlands

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

306 It's also sad what NASA has become. From crew cuts, skinny black ties, men with brains, brawn, and true guts to muslim outreach and imaginary global warming.

From some NASA Guys: "We believe the claims by NASA and GISS [NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies], that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data," the group wrote. "With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled."

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at October 29, 2014 07:32 PM (zxQ4h)

307 *takes DNA test*

"You're related to President Obama!"

*gunshot*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 29, 2014 07:32 PM (oFCZn)

308 "Beyond the pale" - meant go outside the Scandi areas of Ireland

One of the really neat-o-rooney parts of history for me is studying where the different flavors of American music came from. Like bluegrass' roots in Irish folk songs and the blues from Africa.

It's a big ol' world out there with so much to know and so little time to appreciate it fully.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:32 PM (0HooB)

309 JANE!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 07:32 PM (G5aNk)

310 >>He'll stop laughing when you turn him into a newt.

When we were dating, there was a minor earthquake when he was on the phone with an ex-girlfriend.

He was in New Jersey, which doesn't have a whole lot of earthquakes.

So let's just say he wasn't surprised by the genealogy; more of a confirmation kind of thing, ya know.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:33 PM (0xTsz)

311 Posted by: Havedash at October 29, 2014 07:23 PM (G1XMn)

Found a web site that had a discussion of slide rules (introducing grand-daughter to survival technology), and there was a picture of the 5" Pickett aluminum slide rule used by the astronauts in the Apollo Moon Mission.

https://tinyurl.com/n7e2q4e

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:33 PM (o3MSL)

312 I took the test. It pretty much confirmed what I already knew (Italian/German/Irish/English/Scots) plus ... Turkish?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:34 PM (QBm1P)

313 One of the really neat-o-rooney parts of history for me is studying where the different flavors of American music came from. Like bluegrass' roots in Irish folk songs and the blues from Africa.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:32 PM (0HooB)

"Red Haired Boy" vs. "Little Beggar Man"

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 07:34 PM (4OZqu)

314 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:26 PM (0FSuD)

I figured. Sad. If that was my best, I'd be in the soup line. Do the right thing and the good Lord will take care of you.

Vote for cloture, knowing the bill will pass if it comes to vote in Harry Reid's Senate. Then vote against the bill so you can go tell the working man that you are against X. Because the working man doesn't know anything about cloture.

No wonder we're screwed.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:35 PM (wVWRM)

315 Color me shocked on the day one of the Horde informed me of the Viking roots of the Irish.

Northern Irish, and thus, the Scots.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 29, 2014 07:37 PM (PzsUf)

316 "Red Haired Boy" vs. "Little Beggar Man"

Heh, the research continues...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:38 PM (0HooB)

317 302 It's the pans that really send them over the edge.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:28 PM (mx5oN)

Especially the Dutch Ovens.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at October 29, 2014 07:29 PM (KuU4f)

Ummm....

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:38 PM (mx5oN)

318 Scots, French, and Scandis. Lots of cross-mojination

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM (zOTsN)

319 Found a web site that had a discussion of slide rules (introducing grand-daughter to survival technology), and there was a picture of the 5" Pickett aluminum slide rule used by the astronauts in the Apollo Moon Mission.

https://tinyurl.com/n7e2q4e
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:33 PM (o3MSL)
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Cool, Hrothgar! I wouldn't mind reacquainting myself with slide rules. I was never very quick with the infernal things.

I remember when the uber-nerds would strut around school with their slide rules hung on their belts in special holsters. I probably went to one of a handful of junior highs where that wouldn't get you an automatic atomic wedgie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM (QBm1P)

320 Cpt Charles and Nip Sip, worry when the rocket motor inspection is signed by Baba Yaga.

What! Chicken Feet ain't good enough for ya?!?

Posted by: Baba Yaga - Alternative Architect at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM (P+IZm)

321 >.Complete privacy is assured, right?

LOL.

Maybe if we all take it they'll find a Moron gene.

>>How many chances do I get to pass it?

I will not make comments about your ability to control your bodily fluids. I will not...

>>Send in your kit with a small saliva sample.

The kit should not be dripping wet when you put it in the mail box. We're getting complaints from the Post Office...

I don't think they have much to say on the Mexican/Indian side yet, though. Although if it comes back as nearly 1/4 Spanish, I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:40 PM (0xTsz)

322 I got just about everyone running in my veins. Not worth the price of the test. I am an American.

My son is 100% Guatemalan Mayan Indian. He self-identifies as "American." He is correct in that assessment.

When I ask him what color he is, he says "Punkin' colored," because we call him "Punkin'".

Turns out, I'm Mama-colored.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 07:40 PM (g+qqc)

323 318 Scots, French, and Scandis. Lots of cross-mojination
Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM (zOTsN)

So you surrender 1/3 of the time?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:40 PM (mx5oN)

324 Turkish? So how is your recipe for Turkish Delight?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:41 PM (/Xhke)

325 It's also why 14 and 15 year olds shouldn't be having sex with each other -- they can't handle it emotionally.


I know many people who were married by the time they were 14 and 15 who handled it just fine and are still married in their 60s, 70, 80s....




Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 07:41 PM (G5aNk)

326 Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 07:40 PM (g+qqc)
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Haha! I love this! Pumpkin-Spice-American.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:41 PM (QBm1P)

327 Turns out, I'm Mama-colored.

And a lovely hue it is!

Posted by: Adriane the Genetic Engineering Critic ... at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (P+IZm)

328 Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 07:40 PM (g+qqc)

I'm a mutt American

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (KJLlE)

329 I'm a mutt American
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (KJLlE)

I, also, have been known to howl at the moon...

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (g+qqc)

330 "See! Even his nose is cold!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (/Xhke)

331 >>Especially the Dutch Ovens.

Microaggression!!1!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 07:42 PM (0xTsz)

332 Turkish? So how is your recipe for Turkish Delight?
------------
It's highly addictive! You'll want more and more and more...

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:43 PM (QBm1P)

333 Scandis were Vikings. My scots forbears were tough mofos. The French were French huegonots. I come from pretty irritable people

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:43 PM (zOTsN)

334 Northern Irish, and thus, the Scots.

I was informed by a Scottish neighbor many years ago that there was a clan with my real last name in Scotland. I even found the Tartan pattern, which no one stateside weaves.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:43 PM (0HooB)

335 Found a web site that had a discussion of slide rules (introducing grand-daughter to survival technology), and there was a picture of the 5" Pickett aluminum slide rule used by the astronauts in the Apollo Moon Mission.

https://tinyurl.com/n7e2q4e

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:33 PM (o3MSL)



Very sweet! Thanks!

Posted by: Havedash at October 29, 2014 07:44 PM (G1XMn)

336 Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM (QBm1P)

I was surprised at how many slide rule functions I could still retrieve from memory and embarrassed when I couldn't remember exactly how to use a couple of the more exotic ones. I think Vic and I have the only two fully functional remaining K+E double precision slide rules.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:44 PM (o3MSL)

337 @300


I did the 23 web DNA tests, before the FDA shut them down. It was interesting but a little vague. I guess that is to cover their asses.


Confirmed most stuff I already knew. I am English, and English and English and English.


Boring WASP. I have a low chance of Alzheimers. Oh and I have brown hair!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 29, 2014 07:45 PM (0FSuD)

338 Re slide rules. A good friend said he used the the slide rule before he was drafted in the early seventies. Went back to school after service and had to buy a $300 calculator.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:47 PM (wVWRM)

339 DNA Test?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:48 PM (NLYaJ)

340 334 Northern Irish, and thus, the Scots.

I was informed by a Scottish neighbor many years ago that there was a clan with my real last name in Scotland. I even found the Tartan pattern, which no one stateside weaves.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 07:43 PM (0HooB)

Contact our resident kilt dude, GGE

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (KJLlE)

341 Welsh, Irish and French with a bit of Pole. Yea, I've got a temper

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (P//TQ)

342 Welsh, Irish and French with a bit of Pole. Yea, I've got a temper

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (P//TQ)

343 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 07:41 PM (G5aNk)

Even 50 years ago, teenagers were expected to assume a great deal of responsibility. I don't have much faith that two stoned teenagers of today screwing in their parent's house will still be in a stable relationship in 2024, much less 2064 or 2074.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (o3MSL)

344 Clan Gunn on both sides.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (NLYaJ)

345 339 DNA Test?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:48 PM (NLYaJ)

I hope they grade on a curve.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (mx5oN)

346 Minn are you a good singer? The welsh have reputation for great voices

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:50 PM (zOTsN)

347 345 339 DNA Test?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:48 PM (NLYaJ)

I hope they grade on a curve.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (mx5oN)

Do you have to fill in all the answers? I have some gaps...

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 07:51 PM (4OZqu)

348 I hope they grade on a curve.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (mx5oN)

I'll count myself lucky if it shows up as "mostly human".

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:51 PM (o3MSL)

349 Any studies on mass stupidity?

Posted by: freaked at October 29, 2014 07:52 PM (JdEZJ)

350 Minn are you a good singer? The welsh have reputation for great voices

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:50 PM
Huh, you learn something everyday! I didn't know that, but I am actually a pretty good singer and played in some bands back in the day.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 29, 2014 07:52 PM (P//TQ)

351 346 Minn are you a good singer? The welsh have reputation for great voices
Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:50 PM (zOTsN)

Great bowmen, too.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (mx5oN)

352 349 Any studies on mass stupidity?
Posted by: freaked at October 29, 2014 07:52 PM (JdEZJ)

That's why JFK created SEIU, it was a secret gov't study to understand mass stupidity that got out of hand...

Posted by: MikeH at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (4OZqu)

353 I was watching some more of the video I linked earlier. A Russian RD-180 engine worked flawlessly this afternoon in an Atlas V launch. It launched a new GPS satellite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLydvVIRZj4

Posted by: rickl at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (sdi6R)

354 Russians lie and mislead about everything. Fucking RT Pravda and Tass. ICBM worthy. Cultural midgets have a Napoleon Complex.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (NLYaJ)

355 Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (o3MSL)

Patience. Knew a moron would state the case better than I could.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (wVWRM)

356 Sure! The welsh have beautiful voices.

Posted by: ThunderB at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (zOTsN)

357 Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:49 PM (o3MSL)

Oh I agree...I just meant that 15 year olds are fully capable of handling the emotions of sex.

It's a societal issue.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 07:53 PM (G5aNk)

358 Corgis unite!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM (o3MSL)

359 39 And ALL serial killers are white.
Except for the beltway snipers, and a whole bunch of other non-whites....
*******

I think there was a black serial killer that was just caught in Cleveland. Killed maybe seven people at least.

Posted by: Lea at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM (/bd0t)

360 Do you ever pay off when you lose a bet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM (NLYaJ)

361 The Welsh... *snicker* ...have no idea what rabbit is!

Posted by: Briton at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM (16bOT)

362 Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:44 PM (o3MSL)
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We still used "slipsticks" in my early years in the Navy. Metal, so they could be used as weapons in mid shift melees.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:55 PM (QBm1P)

363 Do you ever pay off when you lose a bet?


Posted by: Boss Moss at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM
..Always pay off a debt or bet!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 29, 2014 07:56 PM (P//TQ)

364 I think there was a black serial killer that was just caught in Cleveland. Killed maybe seven people at least.

Posted by: Lea at October 29, 2014 07:54 PM (/bd0t)


Gary, Indiana.

Also, google The Grim Sleeper.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 29, 2014 07:56 PM (oFCZn)

365 In addition to finding 3 women tried for witchcraft. Three. Someday my husband will stop laughing.
Mama AJ


About that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhDymEc5nA

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 29, 2014 07:56 PM (lJaja)

366 Russian engines work just fine most of the time.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 07:57 PM (G5aNk)

367 I'll count myself lucky if it shows up as "mostly human".
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 07:51 PM (o3MSL)
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Neanderthals are, technically, human. Aren't most people of European extraction, at least northerners, supposed to have a bit of 'thal in 'em?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:58 PM (QBm1P)

368 I still have the 5 inch Pickett slide rule I used in high school. Wasn't nerdy enough to do the 10" model worn on the belt.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 29, 2014 07:59 PM (jNNWD)

369 We still used "slipsticks" in my early years in the Navy. Metal, so they could be used as weapons in mid shift melees.





Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 07:55 PM (QBm1P)

There was a big argument over the merits of mahogany vice aluminum. Metal ones were more durable in a good melee, but the mahogany had a good feel and didn't tend to cut your hands after a good strike!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 08:00 PM (o3MSL)

370 I have Huegonots in my lineage, too. Don't know much about them, but research should be more fun.

OK genealogistas, the WS game is about to begin and I have a cold Guinness at the ready. Time to sign off. Go Royals!

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 29, 2014 08:01 PM (0HooB)

371 There was a big argument over the merits of mahogany vice aluminum. Metal ones were more durable in a good melee, but the mahogany had a good feel and didn't tend to cut your hands after a good strike!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 08:00 PM (o3MSL)
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Mahogany! You musta been one o' the swells!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:02 PM (QBm1P)

372 336 -- Hrothgar -- Add me to that list; it's still in the basement (somewhere), with its original leather case...

...I wore it on a belt in HS.

Yeah... I was a nerd.

Then I joined the Army... and became a dangerous nerd.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 29, 2014 08:03 PM (lJaja)

373 312 -- All Hail Eris -- Yup... muzzie slavers made it all the way up to Ireland.

Looks like one of them missed the boat back...

(Sorta like any tall, blond English you come across... somebody has a Viking hiding in the wood pile.)

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 29, 2014 08:11 PM (lJaja)

374 Mahogany! You musta been one o' the swells!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:02 PM (QBm1P)

First class all the way!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 08:13 PM (o3MSL)

375 373 312 -- All Hail Eris -- Yup... muzzie slavers made it all the way up to Ireland.
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It's flattering to the Irish, really, when you think of the effort they expended.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:13 PM (QBm1P)

376 It's flattering to the Irish, really, when you think of the effort they expended.



Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:13 PM (QBm1P)

The countryside there is nice but it would be even nicer if there weren't all those damn Irish laying about!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 29, 2014 08:18 PM (o3MSL)

377 375 373 312 -- All Hail Eris -- Yup... muzzie slavers made it all the way up to Ireland.
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It's flattering to the Irish, really, when you think of the effort they expended.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:13 PM (QBm1P)


I've heard that many modern Tunisians have red hair and green eyes.

Posted by: rickl at October 29, 2014 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

378 I've heard that many modern Tunisians have red hair and green eyes.
Posted by: rickl at October 29, 2014 08:19 PM (sdi6R)
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I read somewhere (pre-internet) that the Tauregs were descended from Crusaders.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 29, 2014 08:24 PM (QBm1P)

379 >>About that...

>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhDymEc5nA

Ha!

I will send that to him.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 29, 2014 08:25 PM (0xTsz)

380 Lord.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 29, 2014 08:39 PM (G5aNk)

381 She turned me into a newt.

I got better.

Posted by: PapaMAS at October 29, 2014 09:11 PM (Bm7AN)

382 I think my Pickett, with the leather belt-case, was bamboo.
It's been 45 years, so I could be wrong.
I don't remember who made the magnesium one I got from my dad.
Man, that thing corroded fast!

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