Hey Remember When I Said We Shouldn't Take Pleasure In Someone Else's Humiliation? Yeah Forget That, I Was High

I got this from Ed Morrissey's post on #GamerGate, and his interview about it with Adam Baldwin. Check out his post if you're interested. Adam Baldwin does a pretty good job of explaining it on Morissey's podcast.

(And it's a hard thing to explain, because it gets into potentially objectionable stuff, like someone's revealed sexual affairs -- but Baldwin does a good job of keeping it out of those weeds, and on the subject of media accountability and integrity. If you're interested, Crank T-Rex has more on the whole scandal.)

If you don't have time for that, enjoy this dude DESTROY (and I do mean destroy) dopey feminist critics who, let's face it, have given up any kind of legitimate critique and now are just looking for things to be OUTRAGED!!! about on a daily basis.

I don't know who this dude is but he brings the thunder.*

Well, I mean, he brings the thunder to the extent it can be brought in a stupid internet nontroversy about an "overly sexualized" drawing of Spider-Woman.

Within that limited sphere, he brings the thunder. Favorite quote: "By constantly bitching about this horseshit..."

Here's a video metaphor of the regularly scheduled feminist outrage:



* Oh, I do know who it is: It's Maddox, who did this piece telling people who claim to "love science" that they don't love science and need to shut the f*** up.

He's great but someone needs to tell him the word is "provocative" not "evocative."

I mean, "evocative" is a word; it's just not the one he intends.

Posted by: Ace at 07:16 PM




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1 Um

Posted by: Scott Anderson at September 05, 2014 07:18 PM (I2LwF)

2 All I see is a butt. Is this one of those Horshack tests?

Posted by: Scott Anderson at September 05, 2014 07:18 PM (I2LwF)

3 is that a metaphor?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:22 PM (tk9x5)

4 It depends on 'who' is being humiliated.

Posted by: wheatie at September 05, 2014 07:23 PM (LcQ0i)

5 She's got a GREAT an AMAZING ass!!!

Posted by: Vincent Hanna at September 05, 2014 07:23 PM (SXAIh)

6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTx5sqvVJ4

Posted by: Tilikum KillerAssault Whale at September 05, 2014 07:23 PM (F0Cog)

7 That "Warning" in the middle of the clip with the siren made me LOL.

That vid definitley brought the thunder.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 05, 2014 07:24 PM (4Mv1T)

8 Who knew Spider-Woman's ass would be hairy?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 05, 2014 07:24 PM (xhKCK)

9 RE: the Spider-Woman cover, its not the pose, that's pretty standard for spider-man. Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint, not wearing a costume.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:24 PM (zfY+H)

10 I bring the thunder and they put me outside.

Posted by: The Amazing Spider Dog at September 05, 2014 07:24 PM (JdEZJ)

11
Peter Jackson should take over direction for Game of Thrones and he should have elves and dwarfs and big mean looking spiders and orcs...

...and TWO f*cking elves should easily kill ALL the spiders and then easily kill ALL the orcs....while dancing on the heads of the dwarves (whom are in barrels traveling down the river)...

...so let it be written...so let it be done...

Posted by: Peter Jackson fanboy #1 at September 05, 2014 07:25 PM (3VwrO)

12 Now that's a nice gap!

Posted by: Janeane Gahbuffalo at September 05, 2014 07:26 PM (RgqiI)

13
oops.... wrong thread....


But the point still stands.

Posted by: Peter Jackson fanboy #1 at September 05, 2014 07:26 PM (3VwrO)

14 that is how my brother died.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 07:26 PM (F0Cog)

15 I'm kind of glad I stopped reading Maddox about 5 or 6 years ago. He was decent and then got a bit boring and looks like now he will occasionally do some good stuff like the "I love science" thing.

Though ace has taken that idea and run with it and made it much funnier than Maddox.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2014 07:26 PM (lWHFh)

16 Well, I mean if Spiderwoman didn't want to be drawn in a sexual fashion she probably shouldn't have uploaded those pictures to the cloud.

Posted by: Lauren at September 05, 2014 07:27 PM (BPMYx)

17 @9 Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint, not wearing a costume.
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Which is also normal for most superheroes.

But yeah, my first thought when seeing the pose was, "Isn't that just how Spiderman ordinarily poses?" The only difference is the angle. And if they'd gone with the usual angle, we'd be hearing all about how they were emphasizing her breasts instead of her butt.

Posted by: junior at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (UWFpX)

18 Maddox definitely brings the pwnage.

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (doBIb)

19 Nerd

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (jucos)

20 >>>RE: the Spider-Woman cover, its not the pose, that's pretty standard for spider-man. Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint, not wearing a costume.

all superhero characters are nudes. they always have been.

the "sheer clothing" is an artist's convenience -- they're drawing nudes, then just coloring them as if they're wearing clothes.

clothing is apparently troublesome to draw.

Posted by: Hodor at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (/FnUH)

21 Spiderman can shoot all the web he wants...

I'm right here Spidey!

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (lN8KC)

22 Heh. ...I love that killer-parakeet gif.

Posted by: wheatie at September 05, 2014 07:29 PM (LcQ0i)

23 16 Posted by: Lauren at September 05, 2014 07:27 PM (BPMYx)

I feel a lot like I do about the Ernie and Burt sexuality controversy....

SpiderWoman does not give a fuck BECAUSE she is ink....

just like Ernie and Bert are not gay because they are puppets....


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:29 PM (/4AZU)

24
RE: the Spider-Woman cover, its not the pose, that's pretty standard for
spider-man. Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint,
not wearing a costume.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:24 PM (zfY+H)


Tell me about it.

Posted by: Dr Manhattan at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (QIVJq)

25 Do Slut Marchers object to this art?

If so, I don't get it.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (RgqiI)

26 9
RE: the Spider-Woman cover, its not the pose, that's pretty standard for
spider-man. Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint,
not wearing a costume.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor


Yeah, watch the video.

Posted by: Spiderman at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (7V0lh)

27 16 Well, I mean if Spiderwoman didn't want to be drawn in a sexual fashion she probably shouldn't have uploaded those pictures to the cloud.
Posted by: Lauren at September 05, 2014 07:27 PM (BPMYx)




LOL!!!!!!


Thread winner.

Posted by: EC at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (doBIb)

28 "all superhero characters are nudes. they always have been."

No, they wear very tight, form fitting clothing. There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (zfY+H)

29 24 Posted by: Dr Manhattan at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (QIVJq)

You think you had it bad?

//The Human Torch

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (/4AZU)

30 20 >>>RE: the Spider-Woman cover, its not the pose, that's pretty standard for spider-man. Its the fact that she's basically sprayed with body paint, not wearing a costume.

all superhero characters are nudes. they always have been.

the "sheer clothing" is an artist's convenience -- they're drawing nudes, then just coloring them as if they're wearing clothes.

clothing is apparently troublesome to draw.

Posted by: Hodor at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (/FnUH)


And conceals muscles which makes it much more difficult to show how strong your hero is.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (lWHFh)

31 30 Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (lWHFh)

Yup...

Colossus....Naked with a few triangles drawn and some lines...

of course the X-Men all started wearing leather jackets in the 90s b/c some artist was showing off his fetish or something....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:32 PM (/4AZU)

32 Maddox definitely brings the pwnage.





Posted by: EC at September 05, 2014 07:28 PM (doBIb)



IIRC Maddox said rude things about both of my little car/trucklets. I know he did a rip on the Baja, and I think he did one on the Rampage as well.


I love my little car/trucklets. Maddox is a asshole.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 05, 2014 07:32 PM (6fyGz)

33 ever find yourself in a dead thread talking to yourself?

GUH! I HATE that.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:32 PM (ejb/Q)

34 What do ze women want--yust a zigar?

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at September 05, 2014 07:32 PM (RgqiI)

35 Best Comic destruction of feminazi's

Space Moose. Google it.

You will laugh your way to incontinence.

Posted by: simplemind at September 05, 2014 07:33 PM (hTeQK)

36 I have noticed superheroes never have to worry about getting cold (females) or sexually aroused (males).

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 07:33 PM (F0Cog)

37 Willow! In my office! Now!

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:33 PM (ejb/Q)

38 28 "all superhero characters are nudes. they always have been."

No, they wear very tight, form fitting clothing. There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (zfY+H)

Did you even watch the video? He shows multiple instances where male characters are shown "nude" as Spiderwoman. Including a pose that would've caused shitfits if it had been a woman, but got shrugs because it was a man.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at September 05, 2014 07:33 PM (Opyrm)

39 And conceals muscles which makes it much more difficult to show how strong your hero is.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (lWHFh)


And boy howdy, do these guys looooove to draw rippling man muscles. I think spider woman's butt is just a beard to distract from all the homoerotic masculine musculature.

Posted by: wooga at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (Zpaa/)

40 No, they wear very tight, form fitting clothing. There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (zfY+H)
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What about this spray-on clothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScvdFeh1aOw

Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (RxU4k)

41 I wonder if she lives in poverty due to her dad spending $30 million on an underground lair he could have built in his basement for like 3 grand.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (7V0lh)

42 BTW, Noonan at least got Joan Rivers right. Nicely done, too.

Posted by: Feh at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (alXd1)

43 Did you even watch the video?

Signs point to "No."

Posted by: Magic Eight Ball at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (RgqiI)

44 Wow, what kind of wheezing rage does Frank Frazetta's work cause?

Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2014 07:34 PM (bAGA/)

45 >>>No, they wear very tight, form fitting clothing. There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you.

dude, they're nudes.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. yes, they're supposed to be wearing "very tihgt, form fitting clothing."

But how they draw them is by drawing a nude (something young artists have done a lot of), they coloring in "clothing" over the nude form.



Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (/FnUH)

46 The "long march" through the institutions proceed unabated...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (lN8KC)

47 There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:30 PM (zfY+H)


uh... only if you're fat.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (ejb/Q)

48 Wooga, like Rob Liefeld?

Posted by: nnptcgrad at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (Opyrm)

49 Is he a Metroid fan?


Posted by: EC at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (doBIb)

50 of course the X-Men all started wearing leather jackets in the 90s b/c some artist was showing off his fetish or something....


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:32 PM (/4AZU)


I quit reading when Wolverine started wearing a yellow handkerchief in his back pocket.

Posted by: some guy at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (QIVJq)

51 Come on now, we have all seen those nature films where the female spider eats her mate after mating. There is no spider woman hot enough for me.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 07:36 PM (hqVUe)

52 just like Ernie and Bert are not gay because they are puppets....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:29 PM (/4AZU)


With fists up their bottoms...

Posted by: Rubber Ducky at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (lN8KC)

53 I quit reading when Wolverine started wearing a yellow handkerchief in his back pocket.

Wolverine is out? Wolverine is OUT?

Posted by: Howard Cosell at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (RgqiI)

54 Some women are just insecure no mater what. A woman I was dating saw the woman on the cover of Ghost In The Shell and declared that women aren't built like that.
Thing is, she almost was built like the character. She was an absolute bombshell. I saw men getting whiplash as she walked by. Yet she was very insecure about her looks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (F0Cog)

55 (adjusts tie)

As a university professor, I can say with integrity that I was never attracted to any of my students or any students on campus that wore yoga pants.

As a guy, HAHAHAHAHA! BINGO!

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (ejb/Q)

56 as someone who tried to DRAW THE MARVEL WAY (a book they put out), let me assure you, they're drawing nudes, just without genitals or nipples.

even the most muscular guy's muscles are not visible through a shirt.

That rippling separation in chest muscles is only visible... in a nude, which you have colored over as "clothing."

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (/FnUH)

57 Come on now, we have all seen those nature films where the female spider eats her mate after mating. There is no spider woman hot enough for me.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 07:36 PM (hqVUe)


Looks like Ace has a spider theme going today...

Posted by: The Archnid Hat at September 05, 2014 07:38 PM (lN8KC)

58 52 Posted by: Rubber Ducky at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (lN8KC)

Proud members of No Labels to be certain but yes....puppets

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:38 PM (/4AZU)

59 56 ah yes, it all becomes clear now.

Posted by: simplemind at September 05, 2014 07:38 PM (hTeQK)

60 as someone who tried to DRAW THE MARVEL WAY (a book they put out), let me assure you, they're drawing nudes, just without genitals or nipples.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (/FnUH)


Caresses rubber bat-nipples...

Posted by: Clooney-era Batman at September 05, 2014 07:39 PM (lN8KC)

61 Proud members of No Labels to be certain but yes....puppets

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at September 05, 2014 07:38 PM (/4AZU)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APAMYUyc390

Posted by: Gummi-Ente tanzt Techno-Musik at September 05, 2014 07:40 PM (lN8KC)

62 as someone who tried to DRAW THE MARVEL WAY (a book
they put out), let me assure you, they're drawing nudes, just without
genitals or nipples.





Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (/FnUH)


And therein lies the rub.

ok if no one else was going to say it, I had to!

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:40 PM (ejb/Q)

63 @54 Some women are just insecure no mater what. A woman I was dating saw the woman on the cover of Ghost In The Shell and declared that women aren't built like that.
------------------

The irony, of course, is that the Major is *quite literally* built like that. As in, a machine-made construct.



Posted by: junior at September 05, 2014 07:40 PM (UWFpX)

64 Whose image was shown as 'vagina' in the video? Bill O'Reilly?

Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2014 07:41 PM (RxU4k)

65 Ok, that was awesome.

I laughed really hard at the "vagina" pic he flashed up there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 07:41 PM (GEICT)

66
Ace, why do you never post Naked Testicle Spider Man anymore?

London Boys, sure. But no more naked testicle spider man?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-400 days left until climate chaos) at September 05, 2014 07:42 PM (yKi7k)

67

Potato Bug woman is model after Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Posted by: YIKES! at September 05, 2014 07:42 PM (mETGQ)

68 The days are too short now. I've been out in rose garden since 11 this am & didn't do half of what I planned.

Why do these imbeciles make a big deal about a comic book? Don't buy it if you don't want it!! I think that is solution to Spiderwoman cover.

I don't read any of those women's magazines.

I was talking to man down the street about women ( I did not know that quite a few do this) getting dumped & then woman threatens to cry rape. WTF? Man told me one woman did that to him & he told me women are evil. I told him I would never even think to accuse someone of that. It's happened to two of my male friends.



Posted by: Carol at September 05, 2014 07:42 PM (sj3Ax)

69 the whole day has been spent discussing various means of:

DUH!

Guys like Girls' sexy bits. Well, no shit.

Can we move on?

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:42 PM (ejb/Q)

70 Some women are just insecure no mater what. A woman I was dating saw the woman on the cover of Ghost In The Shell and declared that women aren't built like that.
Thing is, she almost was built like the character. She was an absolute bombshell. I saw men getting whiplash as she walked by. Yet she was very insecure about her looks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (F0Cog)


Shirow Masamune tends to draw his females, more now than ever before, with tiny wastes and broad shoulders. It's like he's using trannies as models...

Posted by: シェルでハット at September 05, 2014 07:43 PM (lN8KC)

71 Music is called Cuntra

Posted by: Steven S. at September 05, 2014 07:43 PM (9oI4k)

72 That Maddox guy is pretty funny! Is that a +5 Dexterity Axe of Alacrity the parakeet is wielding there?

Posted by: mugiwara at September 05, 2014 07:44 PM (3a584)

73 as someone who tried to DRAW THE MARVEL WAY (a book
they put out), let me assure you, they're drawing nudes, just without
genitals or nipples.



Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:37 PM (/FnUH)


I still have a copy of that book! As a kid I used to practice for hours drawing Sue Richards', err, figure.

Posted by: some guy at September 05, 2014 07:44 PM (QIVJq)

74 What pissed me off - or, if you like, upset me, or in another turn of phrase made me "butthurt" - was how one of the people I'd looked up to, when I started getting into all this blogosphere, turned a 180 over this.

Those of us who've been around the block, check this out:
https://twitter.com/SpinsterAndCat

I think the bit of snark I appreciated most was her "#GamerGhazi" retweet but there's lots more.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 07:44 PM (3kZUM)

75 What Spider-Woman needs is a flannel onesie and to come over for a nice cup of cocoa so we can discuss health insurance.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at September 05, 2014 07:44 PM (SXAIh)

76 48 Wooga, like Rob Liefeld?
Posted by: nnptcgrad at September 05, 2014 07:35 PM (Opyrm)


Neeeeerd!
-Ogre

Posted by: wooga at September 05, 2014 07:45 PM (Zpaa/)

77 Drawing talent is one of the few things I actually tried to develop and made almost no progress on.

I taught myself how to play guitar and piano as an adult. I didn't get great, but it was passable.

I tried to teach myself to draw and made almost no visible progress.

Some of it just in-born. Maybe most. I expect kids learning pre-puberty can make some decent progress.

As an adult I just made no headway.

Buddy of mine is a natural. From a young boy he could just draw nearly anything he saw. He didn't go into art cause he said other guys were so much better than him. He still draws for fun.

Almost everything else I've ever done the auto-didact bit for, I made some decent improvements. Not drawing, though. That part of my brain doesn't seem to exist.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 07:45 PM (zwdxl)

78 I've known some old time artists and those figures are exaggerated on purpose. They called it heroic proportions. The Greeks and Romans did the same thing. The statue of David is an example. It sells.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 07:45 PM (ahBY0)

79 For this with an interest in historical art, Frank Frazetta's Flashman at the Charge cover:
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/273523377339271058/
NSFW

Posted by: andycanuck at September 05, 2014 07:46 PM (xhKCK)

80 Actually, Ace, I think evocative was correct to the context of what Maddox was saying.
http://tinyurl.com/nfapfe4
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evoke

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 07:46 PM (IdCqF)

81
Flip her around so I can see the other side.

Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at September 05, 2014 07:46 PM (3/wAJ)

82 Can we have a picture of Spiderwoman in yogurt pants? That would be something.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 07:46 PM (NeFrd)

83 meh, comic book nerds are pervs. Didn't cracked do an article on this point.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (tk9x5)

84 I lost it at the fart sound gag.

I'm sorry. I can't help it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (kAPuS)

85 >>>Drawing talent is one of the few things I actually tried to develop and made almost no progress on.

me too. Complete loss. I got frustrated because what was in my head would not show up on the paper and I stopped.

It's hard.

I think you really just need to be able to accept something that everyone has trouble with: You are going to be as like an infant at first, doing absolute shit work, and you need to accept that, and be ready for it, and do it anyway, over and over again, until you draw like a child, and then keep at that until you draw like a teenager.

Probably the same thing with music.

or anything else.

also the same thing with learning a language. I'm keeping at this thing because for once I do not want to give up just because it's hard and I feel stupid being so bad at at it.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (/FnUH)

86
Evocative- makes you think of something.


Provocative- makes you think of something naughty.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (NeFrd)

87 The days are too short now. I've been out in rose garden since 11 this am didn't do half of what I planned.





Posted by: Carol at September 05, 2014 07:42 PM (sj3Ax)


Girl, this time of year is my favorite. No longer does the sun set at 9PM and rise at 5 AM.

I'm out of town on business right now and will entirely miss my winter, but...

Parrots, of which I care for 7, sleep immediately when the sun goes down and rise immediately when the sun breaches the bluffs. I *hatehatehate* summer because it means I get 6 hours of sleep, max.

I BEG for winter.

Stupid earth and it's 23 degree inclination to the solar plane...

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:48 PM (ejb/Q)

88 Maddox always brings the thunder. He's been one of the funniest writers on the net for well over a decade now.

I hate this SJW shit creeping into my nerd hobbies. One of my favorite video series, Hey Ash Whatcha Playin, started tagging all their old videos with "Trigger Warnings" and Anthony Burch has generally become a giant pussy in the face of the Tumblr Perpetually Offended Army.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 07:48 PM (3H4Zj)

89 Tangonine,
I was thinking of you earlier. A month or so ago you said something about Forged website so I went to it & bought 3 T Shirts there.

It was hot here & I have to wear neck collar in rose garden. I had black T Shirt on, my friend told me white is best when it's hot out. I took that one off & put on a white T Shirt I bought from there. It's very well made & high quality.

Posted by: Carol at September 05, 2014 07:48 PM (sj3Ax)

90 "Did you even watch the video? He shows multiple instances where male characters are shown 'nude' as Spiderwoman. Including a pose that would've caused shitfits if it had been a woman, but got shrugs because it was a man."

I'm sure it would with feminists, I'm just pointing out why people are reacting poorly to this particular image. And since those images were not widely publicized and pushed hard by Marvel trying to increase sales... only comic book geeks ever saw them.

Hence, no outrage or concern.

In any case, the artist in this particular case is a softcore erotica artist, who specializes in drawing nymphets in sexual situations and positions. Its like asking Bob Guccione to do a picture of a nun. What do you think you're going to get?

This response of huffing "why, its nothing, this is just another picture you people are outrageous!!!" is just silly posing. Its clear what the issue is, its why guys look at the pic and go "sweet"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 05, 2014 07:49 PM (zfY+H)

91 #79

That horse is a good example of the way superheroes are drawn, with skin tight clothes to emphasize the musculature. The horse would not be as powerful looking if it had a hide like a Shar Pei.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 07:49 PM (IdCqF)

92 It's true that I am naked under my fur. But so what?



Hey, a squirrel! In a tree!!

brb...

Posted by: The Amazing Spider Dog at September 05, 2014 07:49 PM (JdEZJ)

93 the feminist argues teh same way the redskins complainant argued. "I read that sports teams are named after things they make fun of so I am upset about the redskins being so named."

Right, no male hero wears tights because sexism.

Anyway...came we get sam raimi back in the spiderman franchise?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:50 PM (tk9x5)

94 I'm so bad at drawing that it's shameful. My oldest son, however, it a total natural. I'm a little jealous.

Posted by: Lauren at September 05, 2014 07:50 PM (2+WNz)

95 >>>>>I know he did a rip on the Baja, and I think he did one on the Rampage as well<<<<

Theses guys;

http://www.carlustblog.com/

dedicated a week to inappropriately named Chrysler products one time. The Rampage featured prominently.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (dJCJQ)

96 I gave up about at the "draw spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms, and then connect those to form the rough outline of a body" phase.

Da f**k?! I don't want to draw no spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms. U high, dude?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (/FnUH)

97 I thought this was a post about journalists and their hypocrisy, so I got out my cudgel.
You all know what Dr. Samuel Johnson said when they asked him about freedom of the press: "Freedom of the press, yes; but also freedom of the cudgel."

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (hNREx)

98 Whoa. Spiderman is as gay as Aquaman.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (4+Wfi)

99 me too. Complete loss. I got frustrated because what was in my head would not show up on the paper and I stopped.



It's hard.





Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (/FnUH)


Measure your fingers and toes.

Laugh all you want. But:

long fingers and toes are artsy people. short and stubby are logic people.

dismiss it as you wish, and I can't prove it in a lab without becoming Dexter, but 46 trips around the sun? eh... just an observation.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:52 PM (ejb/Q)

100 That said,

Offenditarians need to be shouted down at every opportunity. They are a cultural cancer.

If shit like this isn't curbed considerable countries like China and India are going to walk in one day and ask us to take our piddly wittle feewings and leave the internet while they create the next 100 years of innovation.

A fundamentally unserious nation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 05, 2014 07:52 PM (kAPuS)

101 Drudge says I can get me a robot couch that will drive me to the fridge.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 05, 2014 07:52 PM (tmFlQ)

102 For language learning I've used LiveMocha before. I've heard DuoLingo is good. Both are free. DuoLingo is the new language learning hotness apparently.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 07:52 PM (zwdxl)

103 How many horny female ewoks are there after someone posts a pic of Ace? How many I ask?

Posted by: dogfish at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (1vYi0)

104 The feminists think that cover is offensive? Imagine if it showed Spiderwoman coming down off the ceiling to land on a sleeping ewok.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (+XMAD)

105 DuoLingo does the whole gamification thing, getting XP and leveling up to motivate you.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (zwdxl)

106 Did everybody see the jokester who dressed his dog up as a giant spider and video taped peoples reaction to him? Pretty funny, and a good job at making a doggie spider suit.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (hqVUe)

107 85...also the same thing with learning a language. I'm keeping at this thing because for once I do not want to give up just because it's hard and I feel stupid being so bad at it.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:47 PM (/FnUH)

------

Well you've mastered the English language, Ace...with a mastery that few English-speaking people ever achieve.

So that's something.

Posted by: wheatie at September 05, 2014 07:54 PM (LcQ0i)

108 Learning to draw is not magic. It's like any skill that takes a shit ton of work to learn. Some take to it more easily than others but it's mostly work. Work isn't too popular these days.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 07:54 PM (ahBY0)

109 I don't want to draw no spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms. U high, dude?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (/FnUH)


the first person to approach me with an "ovoid" gets one warning.

TF is a rectangular prism? As opposed to just a prism?

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 07:54 PM (ejb/Q)

110 >>>That said,

Offenditarians need to be shouted down at every opportunity. They are a cultural cancer.

If shit like this isn't curbed considerable countries like China and India are going to walk in one day and ask us to take our piddly wittle feewings and leave the internet while they create the next 100 years of innovation.

A fundamentally unserious nation.

...

indeed, it's such a waste of time, and even worse, it stands in as a substitute for actual thinking or reading.

These idiots are not doing this Outrage!!! nonsense on top of their homework, as it were; they are doing this in place of any actual thinking.

It's an intellectual, aesthetic, cultural, social, psychological, and moral cancer. People are making themselves stupider, cruder, and worse than they were designed to be, and they're doing so because it's... EASY!

Dumb is easy and easy is holy.



Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:54 PM (/FnUH)

111 There was an Avengers story a few years ago in which Spider-woman was caught by a group called the Intelligentsia, comprised of baddies whose running theme was was hyper-intellect, like the Leader and MODOK.

Spider-woman awakes to find herself not only locked in a cell but completely naked as well. She berates the Intelligentsia for stealing her clothes and they try to make excuses for why this was necessary but despite their massive cognitive ability they cannot bring themselves to admit they just wanted to appreciate her fabulous body. It was pretty funny while at the same time giving the artist and excuse for naked Jessica Drew.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 07:55 PM (IdCqF)

112 Anyway...came we get sam raimi back in the spiderman franchise?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:50 PM (tk9x5)


Until Marvel gets him back, I think Spiderman is just going to suck.
Maybe someday we'll get Secret Wars...

Posted by: some guy at September 05, 2014 07:55 PM (QIVJq)

113 >>>TF is a rectangular prism? As opposed to just a prism?

you can have a triangular prism. I think you can have a circular one, too.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:55 PM (/FnUH)

114 Apropos of nothing, how would you type the sound that Homer makes when he's drooling?

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 07:55 PM (4+Wfi)

115 >>>There was an Avengers story a few years ago in which Spider-woman was caught by a group called the Intelligentsia, comprised of baddies whose running theme was was hyper-intellect, like the Leader and MODOK.

Spider-woman awakes to find herself not only locked in a cell but completely naked as well. She berates the Intelligentsia for stealing her clothes and they try to make excuses for why this was necessary but despite their massive cognitive ability they cannot bring themselves to admit they just wanted to appreciate her fabulous body. It was pretty funny while at the same time giving the artist and excuse for naked Jessica Drew.

...

did... did you download this as a free giveaway form Comixology or Marvel or something?

I have this issue. It was free.

POSER!!!!!

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:56 PM (/FnUH)

116 Secret Wars? Can u imagine the contract negotiating between the rights holders

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:56 PM (tk9x5)

117 I dunno, I think the use of "evocative" is just fine in this context...and I'm not just saying that to be provocative.

Posted by: Albie Damned at September 05, 2014 07:57 PM (nGaMY)

118 100...Offenditarians need to be shouted down at every opportunity. They are a cultural cancer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop

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This.

And the same for Aggrieved-itarians.

Posted by: wheatie at September 05, 2014 07:57 PM (LcQ0i)

119 Dumbartist I can't draw other than line drawing mechanical type stuff. My wife is an artist and a natural. I don't think I could ever draw or paint like her, even with lessons and 50 years,

Posted by: freaked at September 05, 2014 07:58 PM (JdEZJ)

120 Insufferable prigs!! Ain't that the truth - but only when it comes to straight sex. That homo stuff? Bring it on, baby!!

Posted by: joanne at September 05, 2014 07:58 PM (s/quq)

121 96 I gave up about at the "draw spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms, and then connect those to form the rough outline of a body" phase.

Da f**k?! I don't want to draw no spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms. U high, dude?
Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (/FnUH)


You know as a nerd I have watched the marvel animated shows on disneyxd. They used t have these little bits where they would show the artists actually drawing the characters in an action pose. And granted it is the cartoons and not comics so they don't have the super defined musculature. They always started out with drawing very basic shapes.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (z/Ubi)

122 WE need to bring back Mr. A to kick some SJW ass.

Posted by: A is A at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (lN8KC)

123 "Offenditarians need to be shouted down at every opportunity. They are a cultural cancer."

Amanda Marcotte finds something new to be offended by just about every day. She's now pissed off about women cooking dinner for their families. Because Oppression.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (+XMAD)

124 InternetAristcrat has a three part takedown of the bloody mess here:

bit.ly/ZbsgU9

bit.ly/1quzCwp

bit.ly/1nBkE2Z

Enjoy.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (0zVEV)

125 Learning to draw is not magic. It's like any skill that takes a shit ton of work to learn. Some take to it more easily than others but it's mostly work. Work isn't too popular these days.

--

No, there is such a thing as natural talent. Some people are just naturally better at some things than others.

And the human brain is fundamentally different after puberty than before, mastering new skills post-puberty is more difficult. Language is a perfect example of that, but most elite athletes, singers, artists, etc learn their skills as young children.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (zwdxl)

126 This is the dumb shit that feminism is about, and that's why it needs to be laughed at.

STOP SLUT-SHAMING SPIDERWOMAN!!!!

Posted by: --- at September 05, 2014 08:00 PM (MMC8r)

127 #70

Yeah, it's almost like they were custom made in a factory instead of grown or something.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 08:00 PM (IdCqF)

128 Secret Wars? Can u imagine the contract negotiating between the rights holders

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 05, 2014 07:56 PM (tk9x5)


One day we'll own it all!

Posted by: Walt's Frozen Head at September 05, 2014 08:00 PM (QIVJq)

129 After very close and vigorous inspection I can assure you she was not a tranny.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:00 PM (F0Cog)

130 >>>I've heard DuoLingo is good. Both are free. DuoLingo is the new language learning hotness apparently.

a commenter here recommended it and I tried it.

It's decent for what it is. They make some good choices. They try to turn the learning process into a game (with leveling up, buying extra lives, extra health (for when you make mistakes on quizzes), and they try to get you reading real foreign language materials ASAP.

What they make you do is TRANSLATE WIKIPEDIA PAGES IN OTHER LANGUAGES, which is pretty smart, as you're actually helping expand wikipedia as you learn.

And they start you doing that fast.

By the way, if you ever read a really shitty translation of a Wikipedia page imported from the foreign wikipedias, this is why.

My bad.

On the other hand, DuoLingo is not deep, does not have grammatical instruction, does not have some key stuff (like being able to talk to other students learning, though I imagine you could arrange this on your own easily enough).

It's great for a free product, but it has the limitations of a free product.

it also annoys me when it kills me in a quiz because I wrote a correct sentence, but not the exact sentence they wanted (that is, it is only programmed to accept one answer, though one could write several possible correct sentences answering a question).

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:01 PM (/FnUH)

131 And the same for Aggrieved-itarians.

Without these guys we wouldn't have such humorous phrases as Homo Rapiens and PIV.

The world would be a darker place.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:01 PM (4+Wfi)

132 That would be the Zoe Quinn mess ...

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 08:01 PM (0zVEV)

133 what ever happened to wolverine? the poster....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, lucky seven at September 05, 2014 08:01 PM (u8GsB)

134 Did everybody see the jokester who dressed his dog up as a giant spider
and video taped peoples reaction to him? Pretty funny, and a good job at
making a doggie spider suit.

No. I was too busy reading this great book by Jonah Goldberg---Liberal Fascism.

BTW, Ace, you misspelled, "Da duck".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 05, 2014 08:01 PM (xhKCK)

135 Learning to draw is not magic. It's like any skill
that takes a shit ton of work to learn. Some take to it more easily than
others but it's mostly work. Work isn't too popular these days.


Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 07:54 PM (ahBY0)


you're misunderstanding the fact that there's those of us who can do some things exceptionally well, and you can save your lectures on hard work. We just suck at translating thought/emotion to media (paper, verbiage, et al)

Everyone's good at something, and everyone just totally sucks at a lot of things. Just is what it is.

I teach. I had kids who wanted to learn; tried oh so hard; gave it their all. But at the end of the day? "F"

I had others that didn't want to be there and mailed it in: "B"

You are either given to a talent, or you ain't.

I come from a family of renowned painters. Just... amazing. Runs in the family.

Until me.

My white board drawings are known campus-wide as "wtf?"

I will fk up a stick figure.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:02 PM (ejb/Q)

136 well fuck.

Posted by: Killerdog at September 05, 2014 08:02 PM (Oi60j)

137 You wait until we're in charge. We'll show these hippie punks how real men loot the treasury.

Was that off topic? Sorry. Well, don't forget to vote for us because we're not democrats.

Posted by: Mitch "the hound dog" McConnell at September 05, 2014 08:02 PM (1mtKP)

138 >>>I dunno, I think the use of "evocative" is just fine in this context...and I'm not just saying that to be provocative.

no, he means provocative every time.

"Evocative" can mean evoking anything. He plainly means evoking a sexual response, and we say "provocative" when we mean that.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:03 PM (/FnUH)

139 An interesting thing about art students. When first learning to get a likeness in a portrait it will almost always look like a crude drawing of themselves. That's because they haven't learned to draw what they see, they draw from memory. What they see in a mirror every morning is their only knowledge of the subject and that's what gets put to paper. Kinda strange but true.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:03 PM (ahBY0)

140 @100 Years ago I took a date to a ballet on campus at my alma mater. It was part of a "dance series" and I bought 2 season tickets cuz chicks dig dance n art n s**t. Anyway, apparently the choreographer, a female whose name I cannot now recall, was controversial and had offended the offendistas for liking men or some such horror. At one point, the dykes in the audience began hissing. In Minneapolis, fer crissakes, the former epicenter of Minnesota Nice (apparently, it's genetic). You, my fellow morons, will be proud to know that I very loudly and clearly told those obstreperous dykes to "Hiss off!"

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:03 PM (hNREx)

141 You are either given to a talent, or you ain't.

Everyone in my family plays an instrument. I can't play the spoons.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:03 PM (4+Wfi)

142 106 Did everybody see the jokester who dressed his dog up as a giant spider and video taped peoples reaction to him? Pretty funny, and a good job at making a doggie spider suit.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (hqVUe)



Not reading the blog is a Time Honored Moron tradition.

Posted by: CM at September 05, 2014 08:04 PM (0NdlF)

143 These women don't know nothin about nothin

Posted by: Stupefyin' Jones at September 05, 2014 08:05 PM (1mtKP)

144 Jonah Goldberg wrote about this in his book "The tranny of chiches"

Posted by: farad at September 05, 2014 08:05 PM (lgU2M)

145 Spiderwoman's ass is evocative of a ripe plum.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:06 PM (4+Wfi)

146 Not reading the blog is a Time Honored Moron tradition.

Posted by: CM

****
You assume we can read.
In fact my 5 year old niece is typing this.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:06 PM (F0Cog)

147 Lotta musicians in my family .
I can play the stereo .

Posted by: awkward davies at September 05, 2014 08:06 PM (Z+Mqb)

148 You know as a nerd I have watched the marvel animated shows on disneyxd. They used t have these little bits where they would show the artists actually drawing the characters in an action pose. And granted it is the cartoons and not comics so they don't have the super defined musculature. They always started out with drawing very basic shapes.
Posted by: Buzzion


One of the DC artists, Bart Sears I think, wrote a series of drawing lessons in the back of one of the comics.

He's known for super-exaggerated musculature. He called his style 'bag of potatoes;' the potatoes being the musculature underneath clothing, the 'bag.'

Of course you still have to get proportions right, but his explanations made sense ... if you practiced like a mofo of course.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 05, 2014 08:07 PM (kAPuS)

149 >>>When first learning to get a likeness in a portrait it will almost always look like a crude drawing of themselves. That's because they haven't learned to draw what they see, they draw from memory.

i've heard that, or i've been told, "Stop drawing like you've been trying to draw since you were a child; that's plainly not working, now STOP, and obey the proper technique."

Adam Carolla has a whole riff that everything in live consists of breaking your natural technique and accepting that there is a non-natural but much better technique -- whatever you're doing, you have to stop what "feels right," because plainly, that's not the right way to do it.

Batting a baseball, for example. It's a specific technique, not the "natural" way you might think to do it.

anyway he expanded this idea to all of life, and how one of our biggest impediments is our refusal to abandon our "natural technique" and listen to someone who knows what the hell he's talking about and try HIS technique.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:07 PM (/FnUH)

150 No, there is such a thing as natural talent. Some people are just naturally better at some things than others.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (zwdxl)

Yeah. I took art classes in high school and ended up being tremendously frustrated because no matter how much I practiced I couldn't make whatever I was trying to draw look remotely like the picture I had in my mind.

People who have a natural talent for something tend to apply themselves to developing that talent and they get even better at it. They sometimes make a mistake in thinking that it's something everyone can do if they work at it. But if you are tone-deaf, you can't sing - period. If you have poor hand-eye coordination, you are not going to hit like DiMaggio.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 08:07 PM (+XMAD)

151 This is the dumb shit that feminism is about, and that's why it needs to be laughed at.

It's not about feminism. I've been on and off a feminist myself since, oh, birth. (Mum was one of the strong ones.)

It's about the whole fucking Western world turning into LGF.

It's about how someone has the right to voice an opinion . . . until someone else, with no real opinions of his/her own but with lots of ambition, decides they can use that opinion to get an "upding".

Feminism is nothing to these guys. If a strong woman shows up arguing for the Right like - oh - that Alaskan chick, O GODS AND GODDESSES WATCH OUT.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 08:07 PM (3kZUM)

152 There's some good UFC fights tonight. Couple heavyweights that should be fun. And in a smaller than usual cage. The heavyweights tend to have crap cardio, so the less running they do the better.

UFC's actually a good example of pre vs post-puberty training.

They are just starting to get the first generation of UFC guys who've been training MMA their whole live. Like from the age of 5.

The first 10+ years it was guys who trained in some other discipline -- wrestling, boxing, jiu-jitsu, bjj, kick-boxing, karate, etc, etc -- who then tried to add the other skills to their arsenal as an adult.

Now you got 20 year olds who've been training all this since they were in kindergarten. As a result, the new guys are a lot better than the last generation of fighters who tended to be one-dimensional.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:09 PM (zwdxl)

153 Batting a baseball, for example. It's a specific technique, not the "natural" way you might think to do it.

Like everything athletic, it's all in the hips. There's a saying about this in baseball, 'Do what's natural as long as it works, otherwise, do what works until it's natural.'

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:09 PM (4+Wfi)

154 an example of that is that people will mispronounce words in foreign languages when there is a near-cognate in their own language, but when the word is completely different than anything in their own language, they actually pronounce the entirely-alien word more accurately.

Everyone just defaults to their learned way of doing things, and pretty much everyone has to break that pattern at some point.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:09 PM (/FnUH)

155 One of the people who draws the Cyanide and Happiness / Zen Pencils types of strips had a long-ish piece on becoming an artist.

Apparently, developing fine motor control is part of the process. He made a point of saying "Everybody thinks they can just pick up a pencil and BOOM! - you have to work at it." He then showed exercises like making small loops in cursive style and getting the same size across the page, et cetera.

Which - for some reason - makes me want to kill Bob Ross.

Also, re: Amanda Marcotte - anymore I think of her as the evil twin of Ann Coulter. I just conjoin them into a Amanda MarCoulter being that's just generally offputting.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 08:10 PM (4CVLy)

156 Trigger Warnings == crimestop.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 08:10 PM (3kZUM)

157 Right, people work hard at stuff they're naturally good at because it's fun and rewarding.

Nobody works hard at stuff they suck at. Cause that sucks.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:10 PM (zwdxl)

158 the context calls for provocative....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, lucky seven at September 05, 2014 08:10 PM (u8GsB)

159 You, my fellow morons, will be proud to know that I very loudly and clearly told those obstreperous dykes to "Hiss off!"

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:03 PM (hNREx)


I pushed about 3K kids through basic training. I pushed alongside at least 20(?) "dykes" as you call them.

Those troops have been in service for (does the math) 18-23 years now.

One of my best bosses was MSgt Hermanson. She's gay. And she'll fucking grind your ass into the ground, shit on you and then call in the airstrike.

Now, that's not to say that the liberal hippie lesbians have their shit together, because they don't. They're commies, and liberals. That's why we hate them. Not because they're gay. They're gay because they were raped and/or abused by men. It's pretty much that simple.

But, eh, ya might wanna rethink in some places.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:11 PM (ejb/Q)

160 Which - for some reason - makes me want to kill Bob Ross.

Posted by: BumperStickerist

****

EVERYONE wants to kill Bob Ross...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:11 PM (F0Cog)

161 >>>You are either given to a talent, or you ain't.

that's true but most people can learn to do something with discipline.

They may not be destined to ever be great at something, but they can learn how to do things.

The "ya either got it or you don't" sounds like it might be a too-easy excuse for giving up. At least it sounds like it could have that use.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:12 PM (/FnUH)

162 I seem to sense a theme here....Spider Dog, Spider Woman, Giant faced sized Spiders.......Ace, why are you upset with AtC?

Posted by: lfw - 14 days to retirement at September 05, 2014 08:12 PM (vVSOO)

163 everything hunter pence does on the field is fundamentally unsound....but he gets the job done...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, lucky seven at September 05, 2014 08:12 PM (u8GsB)

164 pushed about 3K kids through basic training. I pushed alongside at least 20(?) "dykes" as you call them.

Those troops have been in service for (does the math) 18-23 years now.

One of my best bosses was MSgt Hermanson. She's gay. And she'll fucking grind your ass into the ground, shit on you and then call in the airstrike.

Now, that's not to say that the liberal hippie lesbians have their shit together, because they don't. They're commies, and liberals. That's why we hate them. Not because they're gay. They're gay because they were raped and/or abused by men. It's pretty much that simple.

But, eh, ya might wanna rethink in some places.


Posted by: TangoNine
****

You have me thoroughly confused and a bit aroused. Need more beer.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:13 PM (F0Cog)

165 I think it has to do mostly with interest. Most of you folks in here must have had such an interest in putting words together that you naturally took to it like sponges. I can't write 3 sentences that make sense but I can get a pretty fair likeness in charcoal. I don't mean to say that you're lazy if you can't do one thing or another. Maybe it's a born interest that leans certain ways but no one hits the ground knowing how to draw well without working at it.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:14 PM (ahBY0)

166
162 I seem to sense a theme here....Spider Dog, Spider Woman, Giant faced sized Spiders.......Ace, why are you upset with AtC?



I'm more concerned if she's going to dust off and nuke this site from orbit.

Hear of any missing nuclear warheads lately?

Posted by: CM at September 05, 2014 08:14 PM (0NdlF)

167 Clearly, Spider Woman is not married. Wedding cake causes a chemical reaction that suddenly makes that position "hurt my back."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 05, 2014 08:14 PM (yxw0r)

168 @159 You don't know me, you only think you know me. I never, for example, underestimate the enemy.

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:17 PM (hNREx)

169 It's both:

1) People are born with different levels of natural talent. Literally genetically superior -- faster, stronger, smarter, ability mimic, hand-eye coordination, visual imagination, direction sense, etc, etc, etc.

2) Working hard, people can improve most skills. Often a good bit. Your rate of improvement and peak are probably a function of your natural talent.


It's not an either or. Some of us are born stronger and faster than others. If you exercise and practice you'll get even stronger and faster. And the weak and slow can also improve with exercise and practice and technique.

Steroids, HGH, TRT, and EPO also work.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:17 PM (zwdxl)

170

I have a relative that's a great self-taught play-by-ear pianist. I'm mean really fun at parties etc. He always refused to take lessons. I think it's because if he did, he'd just be a good player rather than a fabulous self-taught pianist.

people are strange.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:17 PM (4+Wfi)

171 #115

Avengers 12.1, published in 2011. I get my comics by the gigabyte.

You should know better than to bring a geek to a nerd fight.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 08:18 PM (IdCqF)

172 There are some things I am good at and some I am not very good at. After 53 years I pretty much know what those things are.

Posted by: freaked at September 05, 2014 08:19 PM (JdEZJ)

173 I mean a woman grinding me into the ground AND pooping on me- HOT!!!!!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:19 PM (F0Cog)

174 I had a grandparent who spoke French. He gave me a silver-like mug when I was 18 which was engraved:

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"

He explained that phrase meant "Drink until it all makes sense."

Good advice. I miss him.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 08:19 PM (4CVLy)

175 Drawing live nude models is interesting up to the point your professor starts giving you shit about the lack of "gesture" in your careful rendering of her back and ass.

I say thank God comic book artists are still drawing human bodies. Pig-Woman I can do without.

Posted by: Feh at September 05, 2014 08:20 PM (g/zj9)

176 Is this a post where we're supposed to grow as people?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 08:21 PM (oFCZn)

177 I have a general go-to rule. If a woman likes other women, she is a lesbian. If she is also screaming "Die Fucking Breeders!" then she is a dyke.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at September 05, 2014 08:21 PM (Opyrm)

178 Ace, you said that you're learning French. How's that going for you? I'm turning sixty-two and retiring in a couple of weeks and I want to learn German. I'm going to go the Rosetta Stone route and see how that works. What method are you using? I'll check out Duolingo and any other method to see what works best.

Posted by: lfw - 14 days to retirement at September 05, 2014 08:21 PM (vVSOO)

179
https://soundcloud.com/star-one/joan-rivers-vs-darcus-howe

Joan rips black brit broadcastrs who call her a racist new ones. Very much worth a listen.

Posted by: The Progs at September 05, 2014 08:21 PM (iQIUe)

180 Adam Carolla has a whole riff that everything in live consists of breaking your natural technique and accepting that there is a non-natural but much better technique -- whatever you're doing, you have to stop what "feels right," because plainly, that's not the right way to do it.

I'd add in that most "experts" at something are 90% of the time doing the basics really well. I see this a lot with dancing. Couples will memorize complex figures without really understanding them. The result is that they can muddle through together, but put them with separate partners and they fall apart. The instructors or professional tango dancers, on the other hand, can improvise and make it look complex, but when you look closely it's just a sequence of basic figures done very precisely and very quickly and in time to the music.

Posted by: Leo Tolstoy at September 05, 2014 08:21 PM (hJTYs)

181 Spider Woman's figure is one of those "Danger Shapes" that Ace mentioned in the previous post

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 05, 2014 08:22 PM (jWPU7)

182 People told me I had natural ability at basketball, sure I was tall quick but I put in a lot of hours my whole life at being good. I was a natural artist, It came easy with no real effort. My work was constantly on display in the cases in school. My father was a basketball coach and an art teacher growing up. My father sold his art on the side for extra money when i was a kid. So, natural or learned through hard work? Six of one, half dozen of the other is what I really think.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 08:22 PM (hqVUe)

183 I saw Alien Cognate open for Cake at the Bronze once. Willow and Buffy were both there!

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:24 PM (qyomX)

184 Spider-Woman?

Blech.

Spider Dog?

Yum.

Posted by: Barky at September 05, 2014 08:25 PM (Y6xQZ)

185 Right, interest is key, but people tend to be interested in things they have some natural talent for because they get positive rewards.

I was a good athlete. I remember being 5 or 6 and I was just ... better ... at almost every sport than the other kids. I was faster and more coordinated. I had no training. Neither did the other kids.

I remember kids being selected for choir in like 2nd grade. Nobody had any training, but some kids could sing on pitch. I could not.

I remember theater stuff as a kid. Some kids were naturally funnier, had more natural charisma, could mimic voices and walks and stuff.

It's not a binary talent or not. It's a gradation. And people with high levels of talent tend to migrate to activities where their talent is rewarded.

That said, one of childhood friends was a tiny Japanese dude who loved playing basketball even though he was short, slow, couldn't jump and was a terrible shooter.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:26 PM (zwdxl)

186 184 THREAD WINNER!

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:26 PM (hNREx)

187 Heh. My oldest 11-year-old has been writing a Pong program at school in java, and came home and asked -ASKED!- to get out one of my old pong consoles and play it with me.

Posted by: --- at September 05, 2014 08:27 PM (MMC8r)

188 >>>How's that going for you? I'm turning sixty-two and retiring in a couple of weeks and I want to learn German. I'm going to go the Rosetta Stone route and see how that works. What method are you using? I'll check out Duolingo and any other method to see what works best.

i want to learn german now too.

It's going okay. You just have to be prepared for frustration, but also know that by keeping at it, it will come.

There is something called Coffee Break German available which gives you 15-20 minute lessons. it's an easy way to start, in preparation for the other stuff.

Incidentally, my theory -- and we will see if this is vindicated; I don't know if it will be yet -- is that you should try to read (and hear) the actual language as much as possible, as early as feasible (which is not immediately), so you should have an eye towards reading the German newspapers and stuff within a month or so of starting the language.

Like, it's my theory that this is how I learned English (by actually reading and hearing English), and ergo, this should, in theory, be a good way to learn a foreign language.

The theory sure seems sound to me but I don't know if it actually works any better than sticking just to texts and such.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:27 PM (/FnUH)

189 I will say that this has been a long time coming (#GamerGate), and I'm glad some people are fighting back.

As IneternetAristocrat has noted in his videos, gaming journalism has been a cesspool for years now. Sites like Kotaku and RPS waded into the SJW bullshit and it's made me completely avoid those sites.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 08:27 PM (3H4Zj)

190 96
I gave up about at the "draw spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms,
and then connect those to form the rough outline of a body" phase.



Da f**k?! I don't want to draw no spheres, ovoids, and rectangular prisms. U high, dude?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 07:51 PM (/FnUH)

Same here. I can sketch out some lumpy circles but then it's a bit of a roadblock. The pros make it look easier:
http://i.___ur.com/CGbfVxE.jpg

Posted by: Dan Kojak at September 05, 2014 08:27 PM (ukE6C)

191 He also couldn't dribble very well, was a bad passer, and had terrible court vision.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (zwdxl)

192 185
Right, interest is key, but people tend to be interested in things they have some natural talent for


How about me? What am I good at?


Paste is yummy.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (4nR9/)

193 The femynysts never bitched about Foreskin Man.

Posted by: --- at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (MMC8r)

194 I noticed Kristopher linked to InternetAristocrat, who's been doing videos on the Zoe Quinn scandal. That guy is awesome. Great representative of the conservative, under-30 demographic. I almost want conservamedia to reach out to him, but that might dent his brand so oh well.

If you have some time though, ace, his stuff might be worth checking out.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (7gb3a)

195 188 i want to learn german now too.

Oh, man, do not do that. It's really hard.

If you want a sample, try to pronounce the German word for "orange juice."

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (qyomX)

196 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 08:27 PM (3H4Zj)

amen

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 05, 2014 08:29 PM (7gb3a)

197 Are we still talking about spider-girl's ass cheeks?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 08:29 PM (GEICT)

198 180 If a bricklayer can't mix a nice mortar or handle a trowel or read a level he can't be expected to put up buildings very well. When you haven't learned the basics you won't get much riffing on your natural abilities.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:30 PM (ahBY0)

199 I believe that this Maddox fellow once had a classic post about beating the crap out of a roomful of children. It sounds horrible, but I know I laughed a lot at the time. Maybe I'm just a bad person. Can't seem to find it now.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:30 PM (qyomX)

200 If you want a sample, try to pronounce the German word for "orange juice."

Posted by: Splunge


I have no idea what the German for orange juice is, but IMHO, German is one of the easier languages. There are similarities to English, and it has pretty well established rules, because Germans.

I'd even say that it can be a beautiful language to listen to. Think Lili Marlene.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 08:32 PM (4nR9/)

201 Thanks Ace. I'll give it a try. I've just bookmarked both pages. I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted by: lfw - 14 days to retirement at September 05, 2014 08:32 PM (vVSOO)

202 Also, re: Amanda Marcotte - anymore I think of her as the evil twin of Ann Coulter. I just conjoin them into a Amanda MarCoulter being that's just generally offputting.


I have a recurring nightmare where I am compelled by a mysterious, unexplained social commandment to be Amanda Marcotte's boyfriend, like it's a prison sentence, or some other kind of hideous Kafkaesque hell-scape.

Cold sweats, that one.

Can you fucking imagine having to share a bathroom with that genetic abomination?

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 08:33 PM (pR/At)

203 Did you hear about the artistic koala bear?



Draws shoots and leaves.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 08:33 PM (NeFrd)

204 German is as about as sexy as male castration with a rusty spoon.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:34 PM (F0Cog)

205 If you have even the slightest appreciation for the human form, in my case the female form, and a modicum of talent, you have drawn this woman, with perfect proportions, a thousand times...it's what keeps me drawing and painting. I guess these same ofenditanarians must lay an egg when they go to museums with nude paintings. Why on earth is the essence of the female form so offensive to some women?*


* Do you suppose any guys objected?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 08:34 PM (WS+CW)

206 200 I have no idea what the German for orange juice is, but IMHO, German is one of the easier languages. There are similarities to English, and it has pretty well established rules, because Germans.

You are conflating "orderly," which it is, with "simple," which it is not.

I believe the German word for "orange juice" is something like "Orangensaft". When I tried to pronounce it for the first time in Germany, because I wanted some, the vendor apologized for how bad the German language is. Of course he was being very polite, but he may also have been onto something.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:35 PM (qyomX)

207 "167
Clearly, Spider Woman is not married. Wedding cake causes a chemical reaction that suddenly makes that position "hurt my back."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 05, 2014 08:14 PM (yxw0r)"
Oh, that's funny right there

Posted by: Albie Damned at September 05, 2014 08:35 PM (nGaMY)

208 Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:28 PM (qyomX)

German can be a mouthful because of it's long, awkward compound words, but I didn't find it's pronunciation rules all that difficult. I think pronouncing French is much harder for English speakers, which is why the French can be such snots about it. The French (and Spanish) "r" is terribly difficult to pronounce correctly - or at least it was for me.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 08:35 PM (+XMAD)

209 He also couldn't dribble very well,

****


That would explain the bib.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 08:35 PM (NeFrd)

210 Frank Frazetta the artist almost signed with the New York baseball giants .

God throws around talent in the strangest ways .

Posted by: awkward davies at September 05, 2014 08:35 PM (Z+Mqb)

211 German is fucked. Look up what my surname means.

Posted by: Bastian Schweinsteiger at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (Y6xQZ)

212 OT:

The last few weeks I've been...stuff.

So let's skip to lessons learned:

1) this ain't the internet of 1994. This is a wall-to-wall nightmare of govt agencies and hackers and ne'er do wells... How do I put it... It's like walking down a hallway covered in shit and blood to get to a room wherin lies shit and blood.

The internet is fuxored. You do NOT want to be here.

2) Lose your cell phone. I don't give a shit what you paid for your contract or your phone or how much you love texting. Lose it.

3) Never social media. EVER. FB? Twitter? Are you stupid?

4) do not let your kids on the internet unless it's like an xbox account or some harmless thing like that. No FB. No tweeting.

5) Everything has been hacked. Twice or more.

Pull your sim card when you travel. Kill the GPS in your car (it's why I drive what I drive when I'm home). It's easy, takes 5 seconds: pull the sim card before you move, replace it as needed if you really need a cell.

What I've seen in the last 25 days would make your skin crawl. Me? Not so much because I figured.... this shit ain't Archie Veronica and Gopher anymore.

Get small.

Now.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (ejb/Q)

213 >>.German can be a mouthful because of it's long, awkward compound words, but I didn't find it's pronunciation rules all that difficult. I think pronouncing French is much harder for English speakers, which is why the French can be such snots about it. The French (and Spanish) "r" is terribly difficult to pronounce correctly - or at least it was for me.

now that i am semi-acquainted with French, when I hear German, for the first time I can hear it as fairly close to English.

I mean some of it like "gibts mir" (give me) is virtually English.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:37 PM (/FnUH)

214 Re their languages, the Germans spit, the French swallow and the Italians go up and down.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 08:37 PM (NeFrd)

215 208 German can be a mouthful because of it's long, awkward compound words, but I didn't find it's pronunciation rules all that difficult. I think pronouncing French is much harder for English speakers, which is why the French can be such snots about it.

Yes, you are probably right about that. Really the German pronunciation is not too horrible, orange juice and subtle umlaut modifications aside; it's the complexity. I once owned a book listing the conjugations of the 500 common German verbs that do not conjugate in the usual way.

I think one of the Nero Wolfe books has a passage to the effect that pronouncing French properly requires cultivating an active hostility to the Anglo-Saxon way of speaking.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:38 PM (qyomX)

216 Posted by: Bastian Schweinsteiger at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (Y6xQZ)

Pig climber?

Posted by: CM at September 05, 2014 08:39 PM (0NdlF)

217 I thought the German for orange juice was 'Boehnertrinken'

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 08:39 PM (NeFrd)

218 When I tried to pronounce it for the first time in Germany, because I
wanted some, the vendor apologized for how bad the German language is.


Tomato, tomahto.

I find it fairly easy to pronounce, but then 5 years of middle and HS German may have something to do with it. Sadly, I haven't kept it up in the intervening years, but I still like the sound. Of course, if you're looking to harangue people, it's in a league of it's own. Nicht wahr, Adolf?

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (4nR9/)

219 Ace, which French newspapers do you read? I'm working on re-gaining the high school French skills I lost over the last few years, and some links/names would be a huge help.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (iRaJO)

220 Maddox... oh. THIS guy.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart

I remember that guy.

The guy who doesn't care if your employer boots you to hire three FOBs with temp visas, because "they took our jerrrbs!!" *chuckle* *snark*

Okay, that was 11 years ago but the page is still up there.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (3kZUM)

221 He who raises pigs? You're a democrat?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (F0Cog)

222 InternetAristcrat has a three part takedown of the bloody mess here:

bit.ly/ZbsgU9

bit.ly/1quzCwp

bit.ly/1nBkE2Z

Enjoy.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 07:59 PM (0zVEV)


Remember, those who rant about "equality" and how "the people" will be the basis for power/control, are the same ones who build up their own personal satropies and form cabals to advance their interests.

Posted by: The Hat Game at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (lN8KC)

223 216 Posted by: Bastian Schweinsteiger at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (Y6xQZ)

Pig climber?
Posted by: CM at September 05, 2014 08:39 PM (0NdlF)

More like "pig mounter"

Posted by: Schweinsteiger at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (Y6xQZ)

224 >>>You are conflating "orderly," which it is, with "simple," which it is not.

I believe the German word for "orange juice" is something like "Orangensaft". When I tried to pronounce it for the first time in Germany, because I wanted some, the vendor apologized for how bad the German language is. Of course he was being very polite, but he may also have been onto something.


...

german has all that endless declension shit and three different genders for nouns, and that's annoying (French is actually SIMPLER in terms of gender and declensions), and yeah, that's not simple like English is, but it is close to English in other ways.

when you get past basic stuff like vowel pronunciations and consonant clusters that exist in English but are uncommon, it does seem to me to sound more like English than French does.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (/FnUH)

225 The only hard part about German is the thing where they put all the important verbs at the end of the sentence. Other than that, it's pretty fun.

The other fun one is Latin. There's a book called Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, which is entirely in Latin. Learning that way is extremely easy. It's just a matter of spending time on it consistently.

Which is hard to do when you have a job and a family that makes the job necessary.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 08:41 PM (pR/At)

226 213 I mean some of it like "gibts mir" (give me) is virtually English.

That's because everything lined up just right in that case. Consider the dativ case, or the many variations on things like "haben gehaben desagt" (that may not be right, I never mastered the language) required to get out some very simple ideas with the proper time signature.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (qyomX)

227 Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (ejb/Q)




......he posts on the internet...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (GEICT)

228 What was the short story where the mahout (or whoever it was) had a magic elixir that produced abnormal intelligence, and was trampled to death by the elephant for trying to teach it German irregular verbs? "Flowers for Algernon"?

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (hNREx)

229 204
German is as about as sexy as male castration with a rusty spoon.
----------
I read and watch a lot of WWII books and videos. Often times, like in the "World at War" series, they will be interviewing a German who doesn't speak English, translating what they are saying with subtitles. I've always had the sense that what is being printed in the subtitles doesn't translate into English quite what they were saying. I hate to use the word "nuance" (only because it has been so overworked by the Obama fellators) but that's what is missing. If I could understand what they are saying I might have a better understanding of what they are truly trying to say.

Posted by: lfw - 14 days to retirement at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (vVSOO)

230 English is a Germanic language.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (sDQVM)

231 Bobby Lashley just beat up some tomato can on Bellator.
Bellator is the #2 mma org after UFC. Airs on Spike.
TNA is the #2 pro wrestling org after WWE. Also airs on Spike. Lashley is the TNA heavyweight champ.

Spike is trying for some mma/pro wrestling crossover ... something. Kinds dumb.

Lashley is a giant, jacked-up black dude. Crazy muscled. he just beat up some fat white guy with his gut hanging over faux roman solder fight shorts.

Silliness.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:43 PM (zwdxl)

232 Another great comics nerd moment: In the Grant Morrison run of Animal Man, a villain is dispatched by reality-editing beings by a reversal of the 'how to draw comics' technique. He devolves into simpler renderings until there is nothing left but a few ovoids and then nothing at all.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 08:43 PM (IdCqF)

233 Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (ejb/Q)




......he posts on the internet...

***

My goodness, he's concerned, isn't he?

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:43 PM (sDQVM)

234 223 More like "pig mounter"
Posted by: Schweinsteiger at September 05, 2014 08:40 PM (Y6xQZ)


With some names, it is better to not even think about translating them.

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at September 05, 2014 08:43 PM (qyomX)

235 230 English is a Germanic language.
Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (sDQVM)



English a language that beat a bunch of other languages unconscious, went through their pockets and stole what it wanted. It happened to take the most from German.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 08:44 PM (GEICT)

236 I was watching O'Reilly (aka Old Blowhard) on Fox News tonight. He showed clips of Jen Psaki (aka, "let's sack up more shit") and Mary "Heifer" Harf, spokesholes for the State Department. You got bonus clips of Debbie Wasseman Schultz claiming that Scott Walker was pulling women's hair.

Anyway, he had some lady from the Washington Post on. She was complaining that O'Reilly had used the term "that woman" in referring to Heifer Harf. Using the the term "that woman" was supposedly condescending and sexist.

Of course if O'Reilly had wanted to be accurate, he could have used the term "that asshole" in referring to any of the three of them. But he got pummeled for using the term "that woman".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 05, 2014 08:45 PM (wdHk6)

237 That was "Wie sagt der Elefante?" by Pachydermynous Stompf.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 08:45 PM (NeFrd)

238 Okay. I howled when Bill O'Reiily's stupid mug popped up when he mentioned the vagina.

Pretty good beatdown, overall. of course, deaf ears and all that happy horseshit.

Posted by: Art Cognomen, Sad, confused corgi at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (dkesm)

239 >>>Ace, which French newspapers do you read? I'm working on re-gaining the high school French skills I lost over the last few years, and some links/names would be a huge help.

lefigaro.fr is my main one, but I have my twitter feed filled with French feeds from dozens of papers, le monde, les echoes, le nouveau observateur, huffpo francais, slate francais (really), etc. Shit I have french psychology feeds in there.

My theory for this is that frequent contact breeds familiarity, so if I just get used to seeing and reading french in my twitter feed, I will jsut sort of naturally (without feeling like I'm "studying") get familiar with it.

As I said, I think it's a good theory, but I can't swear that it's definitely better than a more textbook-based system.

Obviously you will also have to have certain websites bookmarked: Wordreference.com (great, great dictionary for 20 different languages), and wiktionary.fr (french definitions and etymologies in french; sometimes more useful than WordReference), and sometimes I like to read stuff in wikipedia.fr (french wikipedia).

Google translate is okay in a pinch but I prefer wordreference and wiktionary.fr.



Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (/FnUH)

240 I'd web it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (2cS/G)

241 Using the the term "that woman" was supposedly condescending and sexist.

***

Except when followed by the words "Miss Lewinsky."

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (sDQVM)

242 English is a Germanic language that stole from other languages.

But the core is a Germanic language. And the English ethnic group are a German tribe.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:47 PM (zwdxl)

243 ......he posts on the internet...

***

My goodness, he's concerned, isn't he?


Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:43 PM (sDQVM)


fk it. I really don't care if you do or don't. Was simply trying to help

And I don't know you so... knock yourselves out.


Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:47 PM (ejb/Q)

244 je me souviens

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 08:47 PM (Cq0oW)

245 I've learned French and German and I had way more problems with German.

They have a tendency to want to shove multiple words together into one long word.

It's sort of neat but after awhile I found myself trying to do it with English words.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 08:47 PM (oFCZn)

246 241
Using the the term "that woman" was supposedly condescending and sexist.


I prefer the term "bitch". As in "set me up".

Posted by: M. Barry at September 05, 2014 08:47 PM (4nR9/)

247 Megan Kelly later showed clips of O'Reilly being a dick to both genders and explained he's like that to everyone.
She actually defended him better than he did.

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at September 05, 2014 08:48 PM (Bl4dy)

248 >>>That's because everything lined up just right in that case. Consider the dativ case, or the many variations on things like "haben gehaben desagt" (that may not be right, I never mastered the language) required to get out some very simple ideas with the proper time signature.

okay you're right; I am aware that there are some very, very strange word-order choices in german (and this is the shit that really bugs me, the deviation from the natural logic of english word order).

But the fact is that English is the world's simplest language to learn. All other languages have all of this fucking nonsense going on in them that English largely abandoned.

So, all languages (besides our own) are going to be hard to learn.

i mean, at least German isn't Russian.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (/FnUH)

249 And I don't know you so... knock yourselves out.

***

Hugs and kisses.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (sDQVM)

250 I believe the German word for "orange juice" is something like "Orangensaft"

Probably the 'r' got you. Can't go wrong with "O-saft".

You are conflating "orderly," which it is, with "simple," which it is not.

Difficult for an English (and probably Spanish) speaker's first foreign language because we don't know a thing about syntax. I wonder if it's harder for a German to learn English- "this can't be right- where are the damned rules!"

Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (FcR7P)

251 I was stationed in Germany for 3 yrs. I moved off post 2 months after I got there. They were offering BAQ, ration allowance and COLA, it was a good deal. I knew enough German to make out good in the local community. Now, 30 yrs later I have trouble remembering much at all I could use effectively. But I did remember orangensaft. Fanta had the best orange soda ever when I was there.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (hqVUe)

252 The more you have grappled with German, the more you will enjoy Mark Twain's notes about the German language:

http://tinyurl.com/mktr

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (qyomX)

253 ace.... It's hard for Germans to learn English too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg0fmaCSDPg

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (jucos)

254 German phone sex has to be pretty horrific sounding, right?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (3H4Zj)

255 Why can't these female journalists spend less time bitching in their columns and more time presenting themselves?

Women just don't write enough about the topic of presenting.

Posted by: Fritz at September 05, 2014 08:50 PM (C0dQz)

256 Women just don't write enough about the topic of presenting.

***

Suddenly I understand why Obama always voted "Present."

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:51 PM (sDQVM)

257 254 German phone sex has to be pretty horrific sounding, right?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (3H4Zj)


It's not easy when they put the verb fapping at the end of a long sentence.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 08:51 PM (oFCZn)

258 I'm sure you'll agree that the German "Neunundneunzig Luftballons" is far superior to the bastardized American version. **sniff**

Posted by: Leonard Pinth Garnell at September 05, 2014 08:51 PM (4nR9/)

259 And apparently English chose to steal the most irregular constructs it could find from every language group that conquered that island, from the Picts to the present.

I'm sure the original Flint Men tongue was fairly regular ... until they decided to prove how smart they were by learning the most insane constructs they could steal from every sword swinging a-hole that jumped them.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 08:52 PM (0zVEV)

260 Hugs and kisses.


Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:49 PM (sDQVM)

oh. that was the comment where you were being cute but hateful, but like in a gay way.

Yeah.

Think that went out in 1996.

Work on it.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:52 PM (ejb/Q)

261 235 230 English is a Germanic language.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (sDQVM)





English a language that beat a bunch of other languages unconscious,
went through their pockets and stole what it wanted. It happened to
take the most from German.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 08:44 PM (GEICT)
Lol. I've always thought it interesting that English is such a hodge-podge, in terms of grammar and vocabulary. Hell, I was watching a movie, in English, with Norwegian subtitles, and I could recognize about every third word. Norwegian, for heaven's sake! England hasn't been ruled by Norse speakers since 1035, and yet the languages retain some similarity. Strange stuff.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 08:52 PM (iRaJO)

262 Fanta had the best orange soda ever when I was there.

Any American fizzy drink is better than German Sprudel of any flavor.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 08:52 PM (4+Wfi)

263 >>>English is a Germanic language that stole from other languages.

it's less important that english stole from other languages that it is that it mixed with multiple languages,* which caused English to become a pidgin, a creole, with the stripped down grammars that pidgins tend to have, and it wound up being a language that was largely subtracted from -- and it's kind of a cool thing, because it turns out you don't *need* all that other crap for a language to be intelligible.

* like early on Old English (a Germanic language, with German declensions) was spoken at the same time that actual German was, and while both languages had all these declensions and cases, *they had different declensions and cases,* and they wound up getting rid of the declensions and most cases so they could communicate with each other in stripped-down German.


Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:53 PM (/FnUH)

264 Ooooh, Mr. Internet Tough Guy thinks I'm ghey!

I do believe I have the vapors.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:53 PM (sDQVM)

265 254
German phone sex has to be pretty horrific sounding, right?


You either just had an orgasm or invaded Poland. I'm not sure which.

Possibly both.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 08:53 PM (4nR9/)

266 T9 Get small.
Now.

What you posted is pretty common knowledge I thought. What are you saying that makes it so dangerous now?

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (ahBY0)

267 #38 "There's a big difference between yoga pants and buck naked with spray paint on you."

Not so much. Sure, the yoga pants smooth over some smaller details, but so does the naked spray-paint heroic style.

Posted by: Synova at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (aez/F)

268 If you don't think they have your street address, then your current location, in moments if you somehow get flagged by the algorithms, you're smokin' somethin' that ain't right.
They will get warrants based on algorithmic predictions in the near future unless we take a stand now.
Never underestimate the enemy.

Posted by: Freedom of the cudgel at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (hNREx)

269 Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (/FnUH)

Merci beaucoup for the recommendations. Looks like I have some new reading material for this weekend.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (iRaJO)

270 English is a Germanic language.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 08:42 PM (sDQVM)


Not anymore!

Posted by: William the Bastard at September 05, 2014 08:55 PM (lN8KC)

271 all I remember is "niney nine luft baloons!"

because I was $#*#@( Heidi.

TMI?

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (ejb/Q)

272 I apologize in advance to any Nipponese morons, but I'm sorry, that language is completely unintelligible and sounds angry and stupid.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (4nR9/)

273 269 Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:46 PM (/FnUH)

Merci beaucoup for the recommendations. Looks like I have some new reading material for this weekend.



Other than the Fappening, of course.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (pR/At)

274 H1B Visa English is easy to learn. Proper English is a cast iron bitch for a non-speaker.

A bunch of techs from other countries will use it to discuss work with each other ... and then stare in incomprehension when a British English speaker joins the convo ... until he figures it out and dumbs it down to H1B English.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (0zVEV)

275 Mark Twain's musings on the German language are pretty good:

"The Germans have an inhuman way of cutting up their verbs. Now a verb has a hard time enough of it in this world when it's all together. It's downright inhuman to split it up. But that's just what those Germans do. They take part of a verb and put it down here, like a stake, and they take the other part of it and put it away over yonder like another stake, and between these two limits they just shovel in German."

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 08:57 PM (+XMAD)

276 English and German are both West Germanic languages.
Norwegian is North Germanic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 08:57 PM (zwdxl)

277 T9 Get small.
Now.

What you posted is pretty common knowledge I thought. What are you saying that makes it so dangerous now?


Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (ahBY0)


Define "Common"

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:57 PM (ejb/Q)

278 274 H1B Visa English is easy to learn. Proper English is a cast iron bitch for a non-speaker.

A bunch of techs from other countries will use it to discuss work with each other ... and then stare in incomprehension when a British English speaker joins the convo ... until he figures it out and dumbs it down to H1B English.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (0zVEV)


Yeah English has scads of exceptions that make it rough.

Other languages do to, of course, but English has a shitload.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 08:58 PM (oFCZn)

279
another thing, if you learn a language, I've found that news shows make for the easiest watching, because:

1. They speak clearly.

2. They're in a studio with no exterior noise.

3. They speak textbook language, which, you know, is what you're learning, rather than the actual slanguage people actually speak (and that will have to come later)

4. You usually know basically what they're talking about, so that helps.

5. There are pictures to illustrate the story, so that helps.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:59 PM (/FnUH)

280 What you posted is pretty common knowledge I thought. What are you saying that makes it so dangerous now?




Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 08:54 PM (ahBY0)



Define "Common"



Sorry DA. I work left - right so your presupposition is important to define before I can answer the gist of your question.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:59 PM (ejb/Q)

281 Gah. My internet has been down for almost two hours, for no discernible reason. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: rickl at September 05, 2014 09:00 PM (sdi6R)

282 strúdung beforan bærnett

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 09:00 PM (4+Wfi)

283 For an example in French you never say Ma amie. It's Mon ami or Mon amie. It's a little thing but they add up.

English is fraught with that stuff though. If you've ever heard Brian Regan do his stand up about learning words in school it kind of highlights that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:00 PM (oFCZn)

284 it's less important that english stole from other languages that it is that it mixed with multiple languages,* which caused English to become a pidgin, a creole, with the stripped down grammars that pidgins tend to have, and it wound up being a language that was largely subtracted from -- and it's kind of a cool thing, because it turns out you don't *need* all that other crap for a language to be intelligible.

* like early on Old English (a Germanic language, with German declensions) was spoken at the same time that actual German was, and while both languages had all these declensions and cases, *they had different declensions and cases,* and they wound up getting rid of the declensions and most cases so they could communicate with each other in stripped-down German.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 08:53 PM (/FnUH)


Sometimes it becomes more complex.

You know how "hillbilly" speak has some verbs give the pre-fix "a-" (as in "he's a-leavin'" rather than "he's leaving")?

They are applied in some cases, but not others.

Many more isolated languages are particularly strong in things like this, as well as heavy declanations, a plethora of tenses, &c.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_English#A-Verb-ing

BTW:

Ace, you should post some more linguistic posts.

Posted by: The Linguistic Hat at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (lN8KC)

285 another thing, if you learn a language, I've found that news shows make for the easiest watching, because:



1. They speak clearly.



2. They're in a studio with no exterior noise.



3. They speak textbook language, which, you know, is what you're
learning, rather than the actual slanguage people actually speak (and
that will have to come later)



4. You usually know basically what they're talking about, so that helps.



5. There are pictures to illustrate the story, so that helps.


Unless you're watching Al Sharpton. In that case, only 2 and 5 apply.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (4nR9/)

286 Heh, yeah, Twain on the German language is awesome. I like this one:

"Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him until he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (NeFrd)

287 Fanta is not an american company, and they had a mandarin orange soda that was to die for.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (hqVUe)

288 Theodore Rex: Gah, flashbacks ...

My Grandma made me memorize Beowulf in Old English. It scarred me forever.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (0zVEV)

289 her name was Heidi and she spoke german and at the time the significance was completely lost on me.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:01 PM (ejb/Q)

290 Fanta is not an american company, and they had a mandarin orange soda that was to die for.

***

I miss their commercials with the hot sweaty chicks.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:03 PM (sDQVM)

291 Common

widespread; general; ordinary
"common knowledge"


Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:03 PM (ahBY0)

292 her name was Heidi and she spoke german

Just doesn't have the same ring as "her name was Lola, she was a showgirl".

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 09:03 PM (4nR9/)

293 strúdung beforan bærnett

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 09:00 PM (4+Wfi)


Spricaþ Ænglisc oþþe ácwilaþ

Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt at September 05, 2014 09:04 PM (lN8KC)

294 German compared to other languages:

http://youtu.be/ZlATOHGj9EY

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:04 PM (0zVEV)

295 Oh, I do know who it is: It's Maddox, who...

I kind of thought he'd sound different. It seems, however, that in this video he's somewhat tame compared to his articles on his site.

What made me laugh is when he talks about body parts not being inherently sexual, he rattles off a list and appropriate pictures appear, and when he gets to "vaginas", a picture of Bill O'Reilly comes up momentarily.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 05, 2014 09:04 PM (DO37j)

296
Common

widespread; general; ordinary
"common knowledge"




Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:03 PM (ahBY0)


yes, Webster. I kinda already knew the definition. Your implied sarcasm doesn't help. What I want to know is what YOU were thinking then you said "common"

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:05 PM (ejb/Q)

297 281 Gah. My internet has been down for almost two hours, for no discernible reason. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: rickl at September 05, 2014 09:00 PM (sdi6R)


Everybody still has their eyes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:06 PM (oFCZn)

298 Yeah English has scads of exceptions that make it rough.


English has more exceptions than rules. Its rules are made out of exceptions stitched together. It's bullshit, really.

But that's what makes it the most versatile and the most poetic, at the same time. And the best for comedy, hands down.

German is great for law and science. So is Latin. And they're both utterly devoid of humor. (It's the regularity and lack of ambiguity.) English is shit for law and science, because of the constant evolution, which opens the door for easy manipulation.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:06 PM (pR/At)

299 I speak Frontier Gibberish. We say, "Our current President ate dog and wants to have sex with young boys". Do you people on the east coast understand that that is a pejorative?

Posted by: Frontiersman at September 05, 2014 09:06 PM (hNREx)

300 Ok, so here's my theory: within my two son's generation technology will have put a universal translator in the hand of almost every human on the planet. Travel anywhere on the planet an be able to communicate fluidly with anyone. Once this happens (I'm assuming I'm right that it will), will there ever be any interest in learning a non-native language?

And then what a hundred years later? And another? Will we have adopted a uni-language?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 09:07 PM (WS+CW)

301 T9...what the fuck dude. I'm not implying anything, I asked a g..damn question.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:07 PM (ahBY0)

302
Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:03 PM (ahBY0)


...relative to the topic at hand.

I'd assumed you'd know that; but from your replies? I'm beginning to waver.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:08 PM (ejb/Q)

303 Travel anywhere on the planet an be able to communicate fluidly with anyone.

Ah, the babelfish

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (4+Wfi)

304 And then what a hundred years later? And another? Will we have adopted a uni-language?

***

Time for another look at Esperanto?

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (7XKHI)

305 crap

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (4+Wfi)

306 All right, which one of you bastards crashed my computer a few minutes ago? Nearly gave me a heart attack, especially after T9's latest posts.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (iRaJO)

307 And then what a hundred years later? And another? Will we have adopted a uni-language?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 09:07 PM (WS+CW)


Yes.

Now shut up and enjoy your socialist paradise...

Posted by: Starfleet Sub-Prime directive at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (lN8KC)

308 DaisyCutter:

If the Dems keep it up, We'll only need to learn Russian and Mandarin.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:09 PM (0zVEV)

309 *rasping voice*Teddy...come to me!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (qyomX)

310 Urdu.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (4+Wfi)

311 Supposedly Goring fucked with his translators at Nuremberg by going on and on and on without using a verb. They'd be shouting, "Use a verb!" but it's likely that's probably how he talked as he had a high IQ and likely learned a more literary German than your average Kraut.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (oFCZn)

312 281 Gah. My internet has been down for almost two hours, for no discernible reason. Did I miss anything?



Pictures of Kate Upton's big tits are viewable online now. Pretty much what you'd expect.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (pR/At)

313 Sometimes it becomes more complex.

I've read that, in general, the isolated outposts of a language stagnate. It is the main language that changes.

Appalachian is supposedly close to what Colonial English was, French Canadian is similar to what 18th century French was, southern English is similar to what some region in England used to sound like, Pennsylvania Dutch is close to what a dialect (Plattdeutsch? I forget) used to sound like.

Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (FcR7P)

314 If the Dems keep it up, We'll only need to learn Russian and Mandarin.

***

Don't forget Arabic.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:11 PM (7XKHI)

315 @300 Too easy. Just as there is an event cone from any point whose limits are defined by the speed of light and the shape of gravity, any uni-language (case in point) will only be ad uniform as the rate of propagation of same allows.

Posted by: Frontiersman at September 05, 2014 09:11 PM (hNREx)

316 >>>You know how "hillbilly" speak has some verbs give the pre-fix "a-" (as in "he's a-leavin'" rather than "he's leaving")?

i was reading mcwhorter's book, our magnificent bastard tongue, and he was talking about this "a-" prefix, I think he said we stole that from Celtic, but I forget.

I think he said it was used as... i don't know, I forget. I guess as a participle-marker? It came from something like the Celtic "on," so it was originally "on-hunting," then the "n" was dropped, then people realized they didn't need the a- either.

I know the basic construction "I went a-hunting" is pretty old.

we still use it, infrequently, not just appalachians. "a new day a-borning," stuff like that.



Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:11 PM (/FnUH)

317 Daisy? Did you see Blade Runner?

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 09:11 PM (hqVUe)

318 Wait, Port 1080's censorious regime has fallen?


Posted by: Liz Taylor's tight diamonds at September 05, 2014 09:11 PM (ZFu22)

319 Cool arrow:

A thousand years from now, only a few million language geeks will know Esperanto.

Same number as today.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:12 PM (0zVEV)

320 T9...what the fuck dude. I'm not implying anything, I asked a g..damn question.


Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:07 PM (ahBY0)


you asked, and correct me where I'm wrong, if (implied) my post was redundant because everyone already knew to trash their cell phones?

Facts in evidence contract your assumption.

People don't trash their cell phones.

Then you said it's "common" knowledge, which either:

1) people ignore or
2) isn't true

So I asked you to define "common"

I am one motherfucker to debate.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:12 PM (ejb/Q)

321 Into Der Fass Theodore.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:13 PM (oFCZn)

322 Ace:

A lot of those hillbillies were originally from places like Scotland. They didn't steal a-verbing ... they brought it with them.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:13 PM (0zVEV)

323 all this talk about how hard German is has made me reconsider. I will study Italian after French, as I originally planned.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:14 PM (/FnUH)

324 English is germanic but it's actually frisian, not german at all.

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)

325 >>>A lot of those hillbillies were originally from places like Scotland. They didn't steal a-verbing ... they brought it with them.

i know, obviously we all brought the language from England.

the a- prefix was a participle marker taken from Celtic, I think, later dropped as unnecessary in most strains of English.


Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (/FnUH)

326 Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 08:36 PM (ejb/Q)


Excuse the stupid, but why ditch the SIM?

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (bb34T)

327 312 281 Gah. My internet has been down for almost two hours, for no discernible reason. Did I miss anything?



Pictures of Kate Upton's big tits are viewable online now. Pretty much what you'd expect.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (pR/At)


I have not yet successfully found them.

Posted by: rickl at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (sdi6R)

328 323 all this talk about how hard German is has made me reconsider. I will study Italian after French, as I originally planned.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:14 PM (/FnUH)


Why not Spanish?

Actually, you're good to go with French, Italian, and Spanish. Learning the last two should be much easier with the French under your belt.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (oFCZn)

329 I will study Italian after French, as I originally planned.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:14 PM (/FnUH)



As much latin as appears in our language and culture, I doubt you'll have much trouble.

I bet it will come a lot more naturally than French.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (GEICT)

330 Wait, Port 1080's censorious regime has fallen?

I must break you.

Posted by: Port 1080 at September 05, 2014 09:16 PM (oR4fS)

331 For the record, we are against all this $hit.
Is #BadForBidness and #BidnessIsGOOD

Posted by: Zoe Pound (Bee-Autches!!11!!) at September 05, 2014 09:18 PM (SCB1g)

332 What could possibly be wrong with a language like German, that refers to a bra as a Büstenhalter!

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:18 PM (0zVEV)

333 324 English is germanic but it's actually frisian, not german at all.
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)


--Frisian is the closest language to English, but both are Germanic Languages.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:18 PM (Y6xQZ)

334 320
Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:12 PM (ejb/Q)

I don't usually dive into arguments uninvited, but when I read your initial post, my first thought was, 'I wonder if T9 has some new information that the rest of us aren't aware of.' Most of us know that the internet is a risky place, but I thought maybe you had discovered some proof that Panopticon is closer than we thought.

Not sure if this is what dumbartist is thinking, but I know that's what went through my mind.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (iRaJO)

335 but hey, dumb artist:

Debate and getting down to the grimy grits of words have meaning is good exercise. And If you take my original post and

well, yer saying "DUH! Eberyone Nows Dat!"

And can prove me wrong? I'll kindly accept defeat and... fuck it...I'll pay you a $500 winning fee on Paypal.

You kinda have to prove that the "common" knowledge elicits a response.... and hooooowdy boy. That's.

Well.

Heh.

Good luck.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (ejb/Q)

336 I will study Italian after French, as I originally planned.

Spanish will be a gimme at that point which will allow you to travel anywhere south of the border! ...the Canadian border.

Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (FcR7P)

337 Well sir, I have no doubt that you can be a mutherfucker as can I. I guess I didn't type it so I apologize. I should have asked why should we do all this shit?

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (ahBY0)

338 323 all this talk about how hard German is has made me reconsider. I will study Italian after French, as I originally planned.



After French, adding Italian is easy, for a native English speaker. But German is cool. It's the under-structure of English.

For a native English speaker, learning both French and German is a lot of fun, since English is basically German that's been Frenchified. It's interesting to see the two root languages, in their original forms.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (pR/At)

339 >>>Why not Spanish?

yeah I was thinking that, but I do have a romantic attraction to Italian.

Though Spanish seems kind of easy, compared to these other joker languages.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (/FnUH)

340 T9's fixin' to go over the hill .
ncj is at the main gate , you're good to go .
Careful though , he will shoot yer' dawg .

Posted by: awkward davies at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (Z+Mqb)

341 I always considered Maddox an honorary moron.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 05, 2014 09:20 PM (fIv/H)

342 258 I'm sure you'll agree that the German "Neunundneunzig Luftballons" is far superior to the bastardized American version. **sniff**
Posted by: Leonard Pinth Garnell at September 05, 2014 08:51 PM (4nR9/)


True, but only because:
(1) You can ignore the fact that it's a political song
(2) I like to pretend that "luftballons" means "breasts", which makes the song much more fun. Can't do that if you understand the lyrics.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 09:20 PM (qyomX)

343 >>>For a native English speaker, learning both French and German is a lot of fun, since English is basically German that's been Frenchified. It's interesting to see the two root languages, in their original forms.

i was thinking that, but now everyone's convinced me that German is a joker language.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:20 PM (/FnUH)

344 *eyeroll*

FFS.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 09:20 PM (GEICT)

345 We are also against HTML2 or 6...whatever. It don't play. #FirGusIn

Posted by: Zoe Pound (Bee-Autches!!11!!) at September 05, 2014 09:20 PM (SCB1g)

346 Vy zo zerious?

Posted by: German at September 05, 2014 09:21 PM (7XKHI)

347 Spanish is probably more useful for travel in Central and South America.

If you can speak English, French, and Arabic, you can get by in most parts of Ebola-land.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:21 PM (0zVEV)

348 324 English is germanic but it's actually frisian, not german at all.
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)


Ace just wants to get into my pants.

Posted by: Monica Bellucci at September 05, 2014 09:21 PM (Y6xQZ)

349 I can tell you from experience with Romance Languages that after you've studied 2 of them, unless you have a specialized interest in a 3rd, you're good. Before your trip, just spend what time you can spare reading the newspapers and watching TV news online. Pro tip: get a Skype number and add the country and try making some phone calls. Not phone sex, though. One, they're prolly in the Philippines anyway, and two, you don't want to get flagged by their algorithms as a guy into, say, budgie sex.

Posted by: Frontiersman at September 05, 2014 09:21 PM (hNREx)

350 french for bra is something like soutien-gorge, or "support bust"

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:22 PM (/FnUH)

351 Geez, T9...like I'm not scared shitless already.

You referred to what you have seen in the last 25 days. What HAVE you seen?

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:22 PM (bb34T)

352 Pictures of Kate Upton's big tits are viewable online now. Pretty much what you'd expect.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (pR/At)

I have not yet successfully found them.


Use Bing images, and turn off the Safe Search crap. "Upton Fappening" should do it.

So I'm told.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (pR/At)

353 WTF Pixy?


Now copying 'n' pasting is getting undermined as well???

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (Y6xQZ)

354 339 >>>Why not Spanish?

yeah I was thinking that, but I do have a romantic attraction to Italian.

Though Spanish seems kind of easy, compared to these other joker languages.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (/FnUH)


Romanian is a romance language too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (oFCZn)

355 English is germanic but it's actually frisian, not german at all.

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)


Bûter, brea, en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeC1yAaWG34

Posted by: ᛋᛖ ᛚᛇᛞᚹᛠᚱᛞᛈᚱᚫᛏᛏ at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (lN8KC)

356 The New World order say's you must learn Spanish and Mandarin.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (hqVUe)

357 I do speak German, Ace.

But the learning curve is a bit steep ( not as bad as Russian ) for a native English speaker. And it isn't as useful while travelling, unless you are visiting three countries in Europe ... or conquering France.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:23 PM (0zVEV)

358 --Frisian is the closest language to English, but both are Germanic Languages

what i said

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:24 PM (Cq0oW)

359 The New World order say's you must learn Spanish and Mandarin.

***

And Arabic.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:24 PM (7XKHI)

360 Monica ,,, ace and every other moron on this side of the grass .

Posted by: awkward davies at September 05, 2014 09:24 PM (Z+Mqb)

361 You will also learn Haitian and Austrian. (Before you blow us)

Posted by: Zoe Pound (Bee-Autches!!11!!) at September 05, 2014 09:25 PM (SCB1g)

362 358 --Frisian is the closest language to English, but both are Germanic Languages

what i said
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:24 PM (Cq0oW)

--No, it was not. The implication was that Frisian is not a Germanic language.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:25 PM (Y6xQZ)

363 Ace just wants to get into my pants.

Posted by: Monica Bellucci


Yeah, he tried that en francais with me, but I wasn't buying.

Posted by: Sophie Marceau at September 05, 2014 09:25 PM (4nR9/)

364 i just realized, I always assumed "brassiere" was french for bra (and obviously it is a french word, though I don't know what it means).

anyway, I assumed the french word for brassiere would be, naturally enough, brassiere.

but it's not. The french word for brassiere, itself a french word, is soutien-gorge.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:26 PM (/FnUH)

365 Yep. As a true Moron, you must learn Austrian.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:26 PM (0zVEV)

366 Met compulsory 2-4 yearly posts/sock posts minimum.

Posted by: Vincent Vega - DOA at September 05, 2014 09:27 PM (SCB1g)

367 Best reason to learn spanish ?
Salma Hayek .

Posted by: awkward davies at September 05, 2014 09:27 PM (Z+Mqb)

368 Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2014 09:10 PM (FcR7P)

In the book "Albion's Seed," the author, David Hackett Fischer, writes that different parts of the American colonists drew settlers from different parts of Britain and the differences between, say, New England/Boston accents and Southern accents stem from that. The New England Puritans came from East Anglia and the Virginians came from Cornwell and the Southwest of England. British accents are still pretty localized; they were much more so back in the 16th and 17th century. People from East Anglia, Somerset, the border regions (where the back-country southerners came from) ,and the English Midlands (settled in Pennsylvania and Delaware) would barely have been able to understand each other back in the 16th century.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (+XMAD)

369 There is a town named Fucking in Austria (my college German instructor visited there and took photos) and a Condom in France.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (Y6xQZ)

370 okay, so what "brassiere" means in french is some kind of undergarment meant to keep the body in shape or something, but primarily worn by children.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (/FnUH)

371 --No, it was not. The implication was that Frisian is not a Germanic language

nope. i implied frisian was not german, which it isn't. you inferred something else.

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (Cq0oW)

372 One more Twain quote about German, which I heartily endorse, as one who has fought with the language and lost:

My philological studies have satisfied me that a gifted person ought to learn English (barring spelling and pronouncing) in thirty hours, French in thirty days, and German in thirty years. It seems manifest, then, that the latter tongue ought to be trimmed down and repaired. If it is to remain as it is, it ought to be gently and reverently set aside among the dead languages, for only the dead have time to learn it.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 09:29 PM (qyomX)

373 Dammit, a linguistics conversation broke out in the blog comments and here I am, busy reading up about GamerGate.

Posted by: Jeff B., Professor Emeritus of AoSHQ RINO Studies at September 05, 2014 09:29 PM (Vl+cm)

374 I don't usually dive into arguments uninvited, but
when I read your initial post, my first thought was, 'I wonder if T9 has
some new information that the rest of us aren't aware of.' Most of us
know that the internet is a risky place, but I thought maybe you had
discovered some proof that Panopticon is closer than we thought.

Not sure if this is what dumbartist is thinking, but I know that's what went through my mind.


Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 09:19 PM (iRaJO)


just don't put anything online.

Now look. I post here. and you can google me and get 0. In fact, if you google my real name, you get nonsense.

On one level it's just algorithms that Joe went to work, joe went home. joe went to his mom's, joe went to ice capades... that shit gets filtered out.

Joe lives in Cleveland, has a job HQ'd in Galveston and he made a trip to Butte, MT?

make a note. Logged. Tagged. Filed in the database.

what dumbartist is missing is the ideal that this nation was founded upon individuals, not groups or collectives. What I do and where I go is none of your fucking business.

I could expand, but I can't: cuz: JAIL!

just drop your cell phones. buy a car that doesn't have GPS (that cash for clunkers thing? you think that was just a random plan? nono, kids, that was to get non-gps vehicles out of the grid)

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (ejb/Q)

375 Just don't confuse brassiere with brasserie. Two entirely different things. Much to my disappointment.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (4nR9/)

376 I always thought the brassiere, like the guillotine, was named for its inventor. Now I'll have to go look that up.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (+XMAD)

377 Arrow... I'm a glazier, I prefer to think that the Middle East will be a big chunk of glass in the near future.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (hqVUe)

378 Thanks for linking me to Maddox's YT account. I know what I'm doing for the next hour or so.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (3H4Zj)

379 In the book "Albion's Seed," the author, David Hackett Fischer, writes that different parts of the American colonists drew settlers from different parts of Britain and the differences between, say, New England/Boston accents and Southern accents stem from that. The New England Puritans came from East Anglia and the Virginians came from Cornwell and the Southwest of England. British accents are still pretty localized; they were much more so back in the 16th and 17th century. People from East Anglia, Somerset, the border regions (where the back-country southerners came from) ,and the English Midlands (settled in Pennsylvania and Delaware) would barely have been able to understand each other back in the 16th century.
Posted by: Donna and V. at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (+XMAD)

--Tangier Island, Virginia, i the middle of Chesapeake Bay was the most extreme example of this, although I have read that satellite TV and radio have diluted its dialect in recent years.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:30 PM (Y6xQZ)

380 Baier's interview with the CIA guys is in 25 minutes. Gonna DVR it and watch it tomorrow.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 09:31 PM (zwdxl)

381 fuck! Now I sound like one of those guys!

sonofa...

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:31 PM (ejb/Q)

382 @368

Albion's Seed is a fascinating book. Highly recommended.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 09:31 PM (4nR9/)

383 376 I always thought the brassiere, like the guillotine, was named for its inventor.

So was the crapper, which is kind of a mind-blower.

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 09:31 PM (qyomX)

384 the a- prefix was a participle marker taken from Celtic, I think, later dropped as unnecessary in most strains of English.

I think it comes from the prefix ge- (pronounced ye-; the "g" is actually a yogh) which is present in Old English, as in gecnawan "understand."

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 05, 2014 09:33 PM (B/yEP)

385 If you can't find the pics, look for a downpouring near where buccaneers might disembark.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 09:33 PM (3H4Zj)

386 I spent a year learning Korean at government expense in Monterey. The practice then was to put all military linguists through a six week (iirc) English Grammar course - the theory being that if your language instructor was teaching you present progressive verbs, it'd help if you knew what that was.

About all I remember for Korean are swear words, ordering beer, and calling in an artillery strike.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:34 PM (4CVLy)

387 I know Frisian is close to English, but closer than Scots?

(Got dozens of language books, should know this.)

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 05, 2014 09:34 PM (fIv/H)

388 I re-read my posts and thought:

who posted that? That dude's lost his shit!

Sorry horde. I get an "F"

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:34 PM (ejb/Q)

389 I'm a glazier, I prefer to think that the Middle East will be a big chunk of glass in the near future.

***

We can but hope.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:35 PM (7XKHI)

390 "...317 Daisy? Did you see Blade Runner? by: tinfoil..."

Ages ago...don't tell me, someone else's theory already? Figures. These days I'm seldom as clever as I think I am. Crap, Harrison Ford was just a kid back then.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 09:35 PM (WS+CW)

391 About all I remember for Korean are swear words, ordering beer, and calling in an artillery strike.

***

What more could you possibly need?

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:35 PM (7XKHI)

392 391 What more could you possibly need?
Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:35 PM (7XKHI)


Lots of practice eating kimchi, so you don't embarrass yourself the first time you eat with an actual Korean person?

Posted by: Splunge at September 05, 2014 09:36 PM (qyomX)

393 Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:34 PM (ejb/Q)

***

No worries here T9. You're okay by me. Stay safe.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 09:37 PM (NeFrd)

394 Lots of practice eating kimchi, so you don't embarrass yourself the first time you eat with an actual Korean person?

***

If you're going to be eating kimchi, you should probably also know how to ask where the shitter is.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 05, 2014 09:37 PM (7XKHI)

395 "272 I apologize in advance to any Nipponese morons, but I'm sorry, that language is completely unintelligible and sounds angry and stupid.
Posted by: pep at September 05, 2014 08:56 PM (4nR9/)"

Disagreed. There are few things sexier than a woman moaning "Senpai, no" as you.....err, I mean, I agree, Japanese is terrible.

If you excuse me I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 09:38 PM (3H4Zj)

396 Tangonine:

I keep a cellphone in the glove box for car emergencies. It sits in a faraday pouch, and is replaced with another disposable cellphone at the end of the year. And don't get me started on cars with onboard cellphones.

And googling my real name will get you nowhere.

Yea, some of us have been on BBSes and the Internet forever, and find the kiddies' habit of letting it all hang out very stupid.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:38 PM (0zVEV)

397 @389 There are still Christians, even Jews, among the houri-cravers. Pray for that remnant, that they be delivered.

Posted by: Am I a miaphysite?!? at September 05, 2014 09:39 PM (hNREx)

398 nope. i implied frisian was not german, which it isn't. you inferred something else.
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:28 PM (Cq0oW)

--Blame it on the alcohol, I do.

Anways, you wrote:


324 English is germanic but it's actually frisian, not german at all.
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)

--So yeah, English is not German but who was arguing it was? English is not Frisian either. My inference was that you had Frisian as a separate sub-family, when it's just a language.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:39 PM (Y6xQZ)

399 One of the DC artists, Bart Sears I think, wrote a series of drawing lessons in the back of one of the comics.



I met Bart back when I was in college. Toured his studio. Lots of work in progress. He signed my Violator #1. Super nice.

Dude also has a replica of Conan's sword, so there's that too.

Posted by: grognard at September 05, 2014 09:39 PM (84WkV)

400 what dumbartist is missing is the ideal that this nation was founded
upon individuals, not groups or collectives. What I do and where I go is
none of your fucking business.

Hells bells ol' boy, I even knew that. I don't want to know your fucking business, I come here to learn what I don't know. Your posts add a certain edge to the blog that I like and I wanted to know more, that's it brother, can I buy you a beer?

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:40 PM (ahBY0)

401 No worries here T9. You're okay by me. Stay safe.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 05, 2014 09:37 PM (NeFrd)



Yeah dude, stay safe.

Kinda sorta speaking of, aren't you up awfully damn late???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Tatted, Rested and Ready at September 05, 2014 09:40 PM (GEICT)

402 No failing grade from here, T9. My tinfoil's fimly in place.

So I have a 2011 Challenger with no GPS. Can it be tracked?

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:40 PM (bb34T)

403 Didn't Jonah Goldberg cover this in "Liberal Fascism"?

Posted by: botnet at September 05, 2014 09:40 PM (ZJrnQ)

404 So I have a 2011 Challenger with no GPS. Can it be tracked?
Posted by: creeper
-------------------

maybe not tracked but retraced via its own special black box.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 05, 2014 09:41 PM (4Mv1T)

405 Has anyone seen this Shakespeare production based on original pronunciation? (Actually treating intended rhymes as rhymes and not on current-day pronunciation).

Very close to American accent with some Irish it seems.

http://tinyurl.com/obofbja

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 05, 2014 09:41 PM (fIv/H)

406 Does removing the SIM card render a phone untraceable?

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:42 PM (bb34T)

407 Its 0400 here and I'm bone weary..

I'm staring through half-open eyes... but you little bastards, rotten lot of you, are good folk.

And if it matters? I wear the horde patch.

See you in 20 days. This one's gonna be tough. No: no prayers. 'ems been done.

night.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:42 PM (ejb/Q)

408 About all I remember for Korean are swear words, ordering beer, and calling in an artillery strike.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:34 PM (4CVLy)

--In an episode of House (I believe the one where there was an outbreak on a flight he and Cuddy were taking), when dealing with a Korean on the plane wh spoke no English,Dr. House said the only Korean he knew was "Is you sister 18?"

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:43 PM (Y6xQZ)

409 creeper:

No, but the g-sensor/speedometer data that controls the airbags can be downloaded by a mechanic after a subpoena.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:43 PM (0zVEV)

410 @395 I did a google.translate on that phrase, and I got "Please remove that tentacle from my orifices".
Eew.

Posted by: Food's ok, but the sex seems weird at September 05, 2014 09:44 PM (hNREx)

411
maybe not tracked but retraced via its own special black box.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 05, 2014 09:41 PM (4Mv1T)
*******************************************


Thanks, TR. If the car don't get me the cell phone will.

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:44 PM (bb34T)

412 228:
You're probably thinking of 'Tobermory' by 'Saki' (H. H. Munro). The character is an Englishman, not a mahout, and the elixir makes animals able to talk, not abnormally intelligent, but he is killed by an elephant he's trying to teach German irregular verbs. (The main talking animal is Tobermory, a cat.) There should be texts on the web, since it's out of copyright (Munro was shot by a German sniper in 1916).

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at September 05, 2014 09:44 PM (o1mEh)

413 The book "Capt. Sir Richard Francis Burton'" by Edgar Rice is one I highly recommend.

Burton learned 30+ languages the old fashioned way - sleeping with prostitutes. The biography itself goes into detail about the different parts of his career.

Highlights:
1) Was the first white guy to get into Mecca during the Hadj
2) Expedition for the source of the Nile
3) took a spear to the face

Burton's take on the Arabs is still the most accurate thing I've read on the subject.

Highly recommended

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:45 PM (4CVLy)

414 I will always remember, and I don't know how to spell it, KA-GO-GEE. Is that right? Dog on a stick is always a special treat in Seoul.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 09:45 PM (hqVUe)

415 More detailed explanation, Kristophr. Thanks. At least they can't follow me in real time.

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:46 PM (bb34T)

416 "...369 There is a town named Fucking in Austria (my college German instructor visited there and took photos) and a Condom in France. by: logprof..."

And a town named Spread Eagle in northern Wisconsin

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 09:46 PM (WS+CW)

417 The phone's SIM card contains the phone number and provider info.

Pulling it and powering the phone off will probably make it untrackable.

Although I don't think pulling it will work with a powered up smartphone and a rogue tower.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:46 PM (0zVEV)

418 --So yeah, English is not German but who was arguing it was?

no one. the comparison was german to english and the observation was english is germanic, and etc etc

its really not that big a deal.

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:47 PM (Cq0oW)

419 oh... and 20 days of golf and livin large?

I'm fixin to get my.... whatcha callit... groove? on?

yeah that.

night life and ferraris. High heels.... PARTY!

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 09:48 PM (ejb/Q)

420 #406

No, it only removes the subscriber info from the phone. The hardware it self has at least one GUID and that is likely in the carrier records if you bought the phone at the same time as the subscription or from the same carrier.

If the phone is on without a SIM installed, you can still call 911. And the tower can report the phone's live existence.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 05, 2014 09:49 PM (IdCqF)

421 its really not that big a deal.
Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:47 PM (Cq0oW)

--Damn straight.

Time to fix another Kir.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:49 PM (Y6xQZ)

422 "Eew.
Posted by: Food's ok, but the sex seems weird at September 05, 2014 09:44 PM (hNREx)"

Yeah, I messed up, should have said "Senpai, iie.."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 05, 2014 09:50 PM (3H4Zj)

423 @395

i concur.

Posted by: Luigi's Index Finger at September 05, 2014 09:50 PM (OqeDl)

424 yehp - Keh-go-gee is dog meat, but it's a delicacy so you won't accidentally get any. Korean bul-go-gee is, basically, grilled marinated beef. It's delicious.

My rule of thumb when travelling is to order something that's between the third most expensive and the third least expensive thing on the menu.

I violated that rule in Germany when I looked at the menu and pointed to the item that I wanted (no pictures, just German words) I got a plate of cold jellied luncheon meats with, I think, sliced turnips.

Good beer though.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:50 PM (4CVLy)

425 Bart Sears was one helluva quarterback.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe at September 05, 2014 09:50 PM (Dwehj)

426 The phone's SIM card contains the phone number and provider info.

Pulling it and powering the phone off will probably make it untrackable.

Although I don't think pulling it will work with a powered up smartphone and a rogue tower.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:46 PM (0zVEV)

I happen to know a thing or two about this subject.
The only way to neuter a cell phone is to pull the battery. Powering it off is *not* enough.
Pulling the sim card just means you can't get service through a tower. It doesn't mean the mobile antenna stops working.

Posted by: grognard at September 05, 2014 09:50 PM (84WkV)

427 I was excited today that I know enough Spanish to listen in on the guy at the next gas pump's phone call.


His friend's wife had a son. She's doing well. He was a big baby.

Sign me up for a government job!

Posted by: Lauren at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (BPMYx)

428 German and Germanic are two different terms.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (fIv/H)

429 Maddox is great. He explained a lot about an earlier comment you made about BuzzFeed, ace. He should be required viewing in every high school classroom in America. (no really but you now what I mean.)

Posted by: eureka! at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (S8gBU)

430 [Burton] 1) Was the first white guy to get into Mecca during the Hadj

The first nonMuslim white guy to do that.

Plenty of whites did and do the Hajj - Iranians were first, but also plenty of Balkan converts and those crazy Chechens. Not to mention converts from the West.

Islam is not a race.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (3kZUM)

431 Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:45 PM (4CVLy)

--I forgot, did Burton and Speke "discover" Lake Victoria, or was it a different Nile source? When I was a teenager I had all those explorers down pat in my memory.

Posted by: logprof at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (Y6xQZ)

432 Googling my real name will get you a bunch of people who are not me, which amuses me greatly. And one of my biggest arguments for keeping my dumbphone is that its harder- but not impossible- to track. At least its not like my friend's phone, which automatically posted her location to fb every five seconds, until she figured out how to disable it.

Who says Person of Interest is a fictional show? Methinks we're living it.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at September 05, 2014 09:51 PM (iRaJO)

433 Did everybody see the jokester who dressed his dog
up as a giant spider and video taped peoples reaction to him? Pretty
funny, and a good job at making a doggie spider suit.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 07:53 PM (hqVUe)
.I would feel really bad after dumping two magazines into that poor little puppy, afterwards, but during the shooting I would be screaming in terror like a little girl.
(only two mags because I don't usually carry more)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2014 09:52 PM (t//F+)

434 grognard:

Thanx for the info. I figured there was a reason I keep the fucker in a faraday bag.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:52 PM (0zVEV)

435 Burton was also a translator of the 1001 Nights, and got into Brigham Young's Utah.

He needed a full team of camels just to carry his balls

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2014 09:53 PM (3kZUM)

436 So Bellator and UFC are both running events tonight.
UFC never runs on Friday. But they did tonight just to screw with Bellator and try to hurt their ratings.
Bellator is trying to add a lot more pro wrestling style stuff. They just had a fake brawl between Tito Ortiz and Bonnar -- two ex-UFC guys. Calling each other drug addicts and their wives whores (Ortiz wife was Jenna Jameson so ...).

But it was obviously a planned deal. Kinda silly. Trying to anything to get eyeballs, though. Bellator can't claim to have the best, though, cause UFC has the best, so they have to try something different.

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 09:53 PM (zwdxl)

437 Thanx for the tips on going invisible, 'rons. You're a gold mine.

Now to go watch Bret Baier's interview with the Benghazi guys.

Posted by: creeper at September 05, 2014 09:55 PM (bb34T)

438 German and Germanic are two different terms

====


buy this man a baclava

Posted by: le Farm de Pepperidge at September 05, 2014 09:56 PM (Cq0oW)

439 @412 Indeed I was. Kudos.
I love this place in cyberspace! Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: hNREx at September 05, 2014 09:57 PM (hNREx)

440 Ok so the parakeet with the Merovingian Battle Axe was hilarious.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 05, 2014 09:57 PM (ifYgX)

441
Thanx for the info. I figured there was a reason I keep the fucker in a faraday bag.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 05, 2014 09:52 PM (0zVEV)



Always a good plan. Better plan is just not to take the bug with you if you don't want to be bugged.
'Cause that's what it is. A locator beacon and a bug.

Posted by: grognard at September 05, 2014 09:58 PM (84WkV)

442 I've thought for a long time that if "someone" feels they have a need to draw a bead on you, they can pretty easily do it these days. Tracking people must be fairly easy with all the gadgets we all have.

Posted by: dumbartist at September 05, 2014 09:58 PM (ahBY0)

443 Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 05, 2014 09:45 PM (4CVLy)


Thanks for the protip. I purchased the book one minute ago on your recommendation.

Posted by: botnet at September 05, 2014 09:59 PM (ZJrnQ)

444 ONT up.

Corgies hooooo!

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 05, 2014 10:00 PM (lN8KC)

445 I fondly remember my first Green Bay Packers team coloring book.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe at September 05, 2014 10:00 PM (Dwehj)

446 Jonah Goldberg @JonahNRO 1m
DVR'ing! RT @BretBaier: #13Hours at #Benghazi starts now on @foxnews @FNReporting

Posted by: Captain Caveman at September 05, 2014 10:00 PM (zwdxl)

447 And a town named Spread Eagle in northern Wisconsin



Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 09:46 PM (WS+CW)

I always chuckle when I drive through Beaver, WI.

Posted by: botnet at September 05, 2014 10:03 PM (ZJrnQ)

448 I have always suspected that they put Brock Lesnar in UFC on purpose just to draw in more Wrasslin fans to UFC and try and get crossover back to WWE. I enjoy the fights, and make sure my neighbor who just lives for WWE comes and watches. So he can see what a real assbeatin looks like as opposed to the fake athlete/actors of WWE. There can be no fake hero/villan crap in UFC, natural beefs are ok and expected. Don't ruin the best new sport to come along in quite awhile.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 05, 2014 10:04 PM (hqVUe)

449 The Maddox video making fun of "Lifehackers" (10 Ways You're Doing Everything Wrong) is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlA_YXDm9bg&index=2&list=PLJ2fDHMSFWCYID2B6hxZk50dr7gNWf8_H

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2014 10:08 PM (/FnUH)

450 From the Team Room:

you moms n dads out there pass this on:

ALWAY swap mags prior to an assault. I don't care if Jesus himself came down and told you you didn't fire 1 single round, you swap mags for a full load.
MFER. If we had trees there'd be three in the bucket doing upsidedown koala bears.

change mags. ain't hard. You have 8 of them in your IBA. move left to right. (this is my calm voice... my other voice is: ARE YA FUCKING IGNANT! YOU WANNA DIE?!

woooshhhaaaa

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 10:13 PM (ejb/Q)

451 good thing it's a dead thread.

/furious

CHANGE MAGS.

FUCK!

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 10:18 PM (ejb/Q)

452 So I'll be that guy and point out that the bird in the video is a lovebird, not a parakeet; specifically, a lutino variation of a peachfaced lovebird. Lovebirds will take on just about anything, with or without a battleaxe.

And then at the end of the day, the little nuts will crawl into your shirt and go to sleep. Nice little guys to have around.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 05, 2014 10:19 PM (mIp/5)

453 rest of you try not to get eaten or otherwise die while I'm gone. I like a few of you and I'd get misty.

So don't fuck up.

Posted by: TangoNine at September 05, 2014 10:20 PM (ejb/Q)

454 yeah I was thinking that, but I do have a romantic attraction to Italian.



As it is a romance language. *snrk*



I am so pathetic.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2014 10:21 PM (t//F+)

455 "...450 ALWAY swap mags prior to an assault.... ain't hard. You have 8 of them in your IBA. move left to right. (this is my calm voice... my other voice is: ARE YA FUCKING IGNANT! YOU WANNA DIE?! by: TangoNine..."

Sgt. Hulka?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 10:36 PM (WS+CW)

456 So don't fuck up.


Let's be realistic -- it's gonna happen.

Posted by: Phinn at September 05, 2014 10:38 PM (i5GO4)

457 I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I'm gonna volunteer my leadership to this platoon. An army without leaders is like a foot without a big toe. And Sergeant Hulka isn't always gonna be here to be that big toe for us. I think that we owe a big round of applause to our newest, bestest buddy, and big toe - Sergeant Hulka.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at September 05, 2014 10:41 PM (WS+CW)

458 Just finished telling my wife about all the GamerGate shit yesterday afternoon, and it's so fucking satisfying. I stopped going to places like Kotaku and Destructoid and io9 and Topless Robot and so many other blogs years ago, because half of their content was mind-numbing "Social Justice In Nerd Culture" garbage. Every single community felt like a far-left enclave where any dissent from certain positions meant ousting. I first noticed it going on with the game Shadow Complex, where boycotts were being called for because the game was based on a book by Orson Scott Card...who was against gay marriage. Any defense of him or suggestion that his work should be separated from his politics was either shouted down and shamed, or simply banned.

Of course, complaining about this fact at the sites vaporized immediately, and trying to discuss the matter with people of similar interests usually does nothing but glaze their eyes over. Now, though...finally it's boiled over enough to get significant attention, and perhaps we can look forward to a routing of the Social Justice Whiners who have been ruining our hobbies, obsessions, and loves with endless angst and guilt trips.

Posted by: S at September 05, 2014 10:53 PM (NhLdG)

459 #GamerGate
Please merge Gun and Game Threads
Maddox is a meme.

Posted by: Neo at September 05, 2014 11:13 PM (ZIKwo)

460 Some of John Quincy Adams' thoughts on Islam. As the blogger Neoneocon points out, his words are totally un PC yet were prescient:

http://tinyurl.com/km8tlcq

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 06, 2014 12:02 AM (glk59)

461 TangoNine, you make me happy. Until this moment I didn't know how many mags I was supposed to have.

Posted by: Synova at September 06, 2014 12:08 AM (aez/F)

462 56
as someone who tried to DRAW THE MARVEL WAY (a book they put out), let
me assure you, they're drawing nudes, just without genitals or nipples.



even the most muscular guy's muscles are not visible through a shirt.


Sheeeeeit, Captain America can flash a 6-pack through chain mail!

Well, so can I but in my case it's the results of the 6-pack.

The many, many six-packs.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 06, 2014 02:25 AM (XO6WW)

Posted by: Vic at September 06, 2014 05:43 AM (T2V/1)

464 I still don't understand this story. Are gamers saying that the reviewers are biased and they can't trust the reviews because they are letting their liberal biases taint the reviews? And one guy was banging a woman programmer, so gave her good reviews, but changed his mind when they broke up? Or she was banging him TO get the good reviews. I play video games from time to time, but I am completely lost...

Posted by: rexbatt at September 06, 2014 04:53 PM (woA40)

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