Obama Wins One: Maliki Steps Down

I assume this is good -- everyone says that al-Maliki was bad for Iraq (and bad for US interests), and I've never heard anyone on the right speak up for him.

Obama had long said he would not commit resources to aid the Iraq government until al-Maliki stepped down -- and I sincerely hope that with this obstacle now cleared, we can kill some IS fighters.

Eli Like predicted this last night on the podcast, citing just this event, noted by Allah:

It was Sistaniís letter a few days ago demanding a new prime minister that sunk him, apparently. Without a Shiite base of support, he had nothing.

Obama is now claiming that the siege of Sinjar is broken, however, and now the "majority" of the combat -- I mean, non-combat-- personnel assigned to this mission can depart the country.

The UN disagrees:


Good God.

I think he really does support Tom Friedman's idea of "no victor, no vanquished" in warfare.

Tom Friedman suggested that he does agree, in a column about an interview he had with Obama. He didn't claim he'd asked the president if he agreed (and I wonder why he didn't...? Perhaps he was worried that the president would openly agree...?), but suggested that what Obama said to him was consistent with Friedman's own "no victor, no vanquished" theory of war.

So, the Islamic State cannot be humiliated with a "vanquishing" defeat?

What?

Talk about an "uncertain trumpet."

Posted by: Ace at 06:37 PM




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1 Naw, Obama only creates failures.

Posted by: D-Lamp at August 14, 2014 06:39 PM (Vutl+)

2 It's hard to know who to believe in the UN v. Obama Sinjar issue.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 14, 2014 06:39 PM (7V0lh)

3 I think he really does support Tom Friedman's idea of "no victor, no vanquished" in warfare.

So Friedman is unfamiliar with World War II?

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

4 If Obama wanted it,it will turn out badly.

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2014 06:40 PM (zqvg6)

5 But it can be construed as political cover for him.




He can point to it as proof of his steadfastness and determination. Of course we all know this is a load of crap.

Posted by: D-Lamp at August 14, 2014 06:40 PM (Vutl+)

6 OT, but good job rdbrewer linking the SpaceX video in the right sidebar. I got an e-mail notification about it, and I was going to link it.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 06:41 PM (sdi6R)

7 Talk about an "uncertain trumpet.



Someone will be along to blow it shortly.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 06:41 PM (0Um7l)

8 I saw Uncertain Trumpet open for John 3:16 at Monsters of Rock 2007.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 14, 2014 06:42 PM (7V0lh)

9 See, when I leave town shit happens. I am so powerful!



Oh, wait, never mind.

Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry at August 14, 2014 06:42 PM (0FSuD)

10 rdbrewer always does a hell of a job with his sidebar links.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (8FyP4)

11 Lauren, some more advice in the last thread.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (doBIb)

12 Abbott has announced that Australia will accept up to 4,000 Iraqi Christian refugees.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (tLbmD)

13 Does Team Obama send Obama out there to say the crisis is over, in the hopes that him merely saying it will make it so?

Delusion... not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (xzb8X)

14 So IS sub-animals can go on slaughtering people wholesale because the siege is "broken." I guess being killed in the valley is better than starving to death or dying of thirst on the mountain.

And we all know that there is no way, no way, I say, that's none of these IS things would ever make their way to any western country.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (r+7wo)

15 Obama is now claiming that the siege of Sinjar is broken,



Since the siege is broken, Maliki can have his old job back, right?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (0Um7l)

16 Al Malaki did this to himself. He went a good way towards dismantling what the coalition had put together by putting cronies and buddies in positions of power in both his government and the military. WHen the SHTF, they mostly ran away because they were incompetent.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (jucos)

17 No victor, no vanquished....everybody gets a participation trophy.

Posted by: BignJames at August 14, 2014 06:44 PM (j7iSn)

18 I wonder how many billions of our dollars fiat currency al-Maliki has squirreled away?

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 06:44 PM (knfPD)

19 Where's Anna Puma? She had the perfect comment this morning. Hold on...



Here.

SHAFE HQ, 16 April 1945

Contrary to
previous reports, Allied forces upon reaching the National Socialist
Labor Relocation Camps found very few people living there. And they seem
to be in reasonable condition even after six years of brutal war in
Europe.

VIA, something like that is what the MSM is doing today?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 14, 2014 07:54 AM (uizHE)

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at August 14, 2014 06:44 PM (KuU4f)

20 That uncertain trumpet might be the one that blows before one of the Seven Seals is broken.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 14, 2014 06:44 PM (tLbmD)

21 Oh my.

Be careful for what you wish for BHO. Now you might have to be decisive

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (HVff2)

22 For what it's worth, this guy makes the point that we need to just keep killing young Arab men until we get to three million.



General William Tecumseh Sherman burned the city of Atlanta in 1864. He warned: "I fear the world will jump to the wrong conclusion that because I am in Atlanta the work is done. Far from it. We must kill three hundred thousand I have told you of so often, and the further they run the harder for us to get them." Add a zero to calibrate the problem in the Levant today. War in the Middle East is less a strategic than a demographic phenomenon, whose resolution will come with the exhaustion of the pool of potential fighters.



http://pjmedia.com/spengler
/2014/08/12/
shermans-300000-
and-the-caliphates-3-million/



I'm suspecting he may be right.



Posted by: D-Lamp at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (Vutl+)

23 So, the question becomes, why is Obama heading back to DC this weekend?


His problem in with Malki is solved.


Is he going to "save" the people on the mountain, or the people crossing the river?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (0FSuD)

24 God help anyone anywhere who relies on the JEF for their survival

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (EEu0y)

25 Al Malaki did this to himself. He went a good way towards dismantling what the coalition had put together by putting cronies and buddies in positions of power in both his government and the military. WHen the SHTF, they mostly ran away because they were incompetent.

Sounds sufficiently Chicago-like to me.

Posted by: --- at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (MMC8r)

26 Sad, but it seems to me that George Will has lost a real step. He is much less certain and eloquent than he used to be. I suspect age is catching up with him.

Posted by: pep at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (4nR9/)

27 [Ace:] ...I assume this is good -- everyone says that al-Maliki was bad for Iraq (and bad for US interests), and I've never heard anyone on the right speak up for him.

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He was 'duly elected' by the fledgling new democratic process in Iraq.
So we had to deal with him.

But yeah...he quickly showed what kind of a guy he is.
And we can't keep doing 'regime changes' for that country.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 06:45 PM (FNT/7)

28 At least they have a mountain.

Posted by: Parkinson's-riddled NYT doodler at August 14, 2014 06:46 PM (vgIRn)

29 Also, someone this morning reported that parents are actually slicing their veins open to sate the thirst of their children, it is that bad.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at August 14, 2014 06:46 PM (KuU4f)

30 16 Al Malaki did this to himself. He went a good way towards dismantling what the coalition had put together by putting cronies and buddies in positions of power in both his government and the military. WHen the SHTF, they mostly ran away because they were incompetent.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:43 PM (jucos)


In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 06:47 PM (sdi6R)

31 Sad, but it seems to me that George Will has lost a real step. He is much less certain and eloquent than he used to be. I suspect age is catching up with him.

It's all them whippersnappers in their dungarees.

Posted by: --- at August 14, 2014 06:47 PM (MMC8r)

32 No victor no vanquished no deposit no return.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 14, 2014 06:47 PM (W5DcG)

33 Sieges also end when everyone being besieged is dead

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:47 PM (EEu0y)

34 And we can't keep doing 'regime changes' for that country.



No more mulligans for Pres-Golfs-Alot?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (0Um7l)

35 I'm not sure about the uncertain trumpet, but The Vuvuzela of Destiny is one of the most popular exhibits at the Peruvia State Museum of Inexpensive National Treasures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (vCR1W)

36
I don't know what to believe, anymore.

But I do know one thing for certain: to never ever believe obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (z96ra)

37 Screw you peons, when's my tee time

Posted by: President Fraud Maximum at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (tcXSC)

38 You know what's funny? Where's Jonnnn Kerrrrryyyy in all of this.

SecState had no words to Maliki? It was all PBO? No 'victory' for SecState in an orderly change in Iraq?

Jonnnnn Kerrrryyyy wasn't there to help lead change?

Jeez...can he do ANYTHING?

Posted by: Mr Wolf at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (cNPlD)

39 >>In many ways, this is the story of Obama.>>

That one will never wear out.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 14, 2014 06:48 PM (tLbmD)

40 The "Saving of the Mountain People" does not pass the smell test. A week and a few bombing runs later and Teh JEF is declaring victory while the cock sucking media shake their heads vigorously. Yeah.... we believe you alright.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:49 PM (jucos)

41 Siege of the Warsaw ghetto also ended

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:49 PM (EEu0y)

42 No victor
no vanquished


No shoes
No shirt
No service

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 06:49 PM (0Um7l)

43 Maliki stays in place thirty days or so while new government is set up.

Maliki leaves, Baghdad falls to ISIS. (Just a WAG, it's like buying a lottery ticket. )

But to hedge my position like buying both puts and calls,
Maliki doesn't leave and Baghdad falls to the ISIS when the sunni half of Baghdad joins the ISIS.

For all the Obama loyalists hoping for change isn't necessarily a good thing because you might not like the changes you get.

But change is coming to Iraq, and hell is coming with it.

Posted by: Crash Harliquein at August 14, 2014 06:49 PM (wguJ9)

44 At least they have a mountain.

First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 14, 2014 06:50 PM (W5DcG)

45 You say "X dictator, uh must go" enough times and eventually you'll "win" one of those statements

Posted by: Arcadehero at August 14, 2014 06:50 PM (27BfC)

46 And we won't accept any Iraqi Christians.

EVIL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2014 06:50 PM (oyOpn)

47 Hey Barry, do I have to go too?

Posted by: Bashar Assad at August 14, 2014 06:51 PM (vCR1W)

48 Actually, to be honest, I'm not even sure I'm talking about the same mountain.

*blushes*


Does anyone have any wine?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at August 14, 2014 06:51 PM (KuU4f)

49 No shit, no Sherlock.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 06:51 PM (8FyP4)

50 Siege of the Maccabees also ended. When they all died or committed suicide

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:52 PM (EEu0y)

51 Don't pass go. don't collect 200 billion dollars

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:52 PM (jucos)

52
Speaking of Iraq, Halloween is coming up. Have you bought your pet a thoughtful and tasteful costume yet?
http://tinyurl.com/m6e8lq9

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2014 06:53 PM (xWW96)

53 The prisoners liberated from Buchenwald were still mostly alive.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:53 PM (jucos)

54 Barry's going to be so pissed when he reads about this in the papers....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 14, 2014 06:54 PM (PZ6/M)

55 Speaking of Iraq, Halloween is coming up. Have you bought your pet a thoughtful and tasteful costume yet?
http://tinyurl.com/m6e8lq9
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2014 06:53 PM (xWW96)
********
How fucking awesome is that? .... and it's a cat, so I'm ok with it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:54 PM (jucos)

56 "Even a Flopped Cock is right twice a day."



Okay, work with me, here.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 14, 2014 06:55 PM (TM1p8)

57 There are many ways a siege can be broken and they aren't all good

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:55 PM (EEu0y)

58 Thank God that dumb rabble rouser is finally listening to my advice.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at August 14, 2014 06:55 PM (vCR1W)

59 Obama is an ecumenical, he supports both Shia *and* Sunni.

Posted by: toby928(C) at August 14, 2014 06:55 PM (aqMeV)

60 I gotta go.

Bad.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 14, 2014 06:56 PM (vCR1W)

61 How fucking awesome is that? .... and it's a cat, so I'm ok with it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 06:54 PM (jucos)

Dress up ten of them and let them loose in DC near the White House.
Pandemonium to follow.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 06:57 PM (0FSuD)

62 52
Speaking of Iraq, Halloween is coming up. Have you bought your pet a thoughtful and tasteful costume yet?
http://tinyurl.com/m6e8lq9

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2014 06:53 PM (xWW96)


I KNEW it was going to be that photo!

No point buying lottery tickets now, I guess.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

63 There are many ways a siege can be broken and they aren't all good.


"Go away or I shall taunt you a second time" really doesn't work.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 06:58 PM (0Um7l)

64 First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 14, 2014 06:50 PM (W5DcG)


Sounds like climate change.

Posted by: BignJames at August 14, 2014 06:58 PM (j7iSn)

65 Pentagon says there are at least four to five thousand still stuck on the mountain


Victory!

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (EEu0y)

66 I LOL'd.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (r+7wo)

67 Pentagon says there are at least four to five thousand still stuck on the mountain

A rounding error.

Posted by: toby928(C) at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (aqMeV)

68 59 Obama is an ecumenical, he supports both Shia *and* Sunni.

Probably because he is an Apostate.
Well...supposedly.
He doesn't want either side to issue fatwas on his ass.

We still don't know if he's a closet rug-sniffer or not.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (FNT/7)

69 Ahem.

52
Speaking of Iraq, Halloween is coming up. Have you bought your pet a thoughtful and tasteful costume yet?
http://tinyurl.com/m6e8lq9
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2014 06:53 PM (xWW96)

I LOL'd.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (r+7wo)

70 @66

Hair shit? Amazon. Use Ace's link, he gets a cut.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 06:59 PM (0FSuD)

71 Barry doesn't give a shit about the people ISIS is torturing and slaughtering. To him they're just an abstraction, not real human beings.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 14, 2014 07:00 PM (7ZeZv)

72 It's not fair to interrupt IS while they're on a murdering rampage. That would be, among other things, racist.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:01 PM (r+7wo)

73 Talk about an "uncertain trumpet."



Nothing uncertain about my trumpet.

*FAAAARRRRRT*

Posted by: Joey B at August 14, 2014 07:01 PM (Y6xQZ)

74 "no victor, no vanquished" theory of war.

IOW, Foreverwar.

Congratulations. I've just heard the dumbest thing in my lifetime and the bar is pretty damn high for that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at August 14, 2014 07:01 PM (lK6mM)

75 Thanks, Nip.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:01 PM (r+7wo)

76 Cheque that isn't fair. They are also rapists

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 07:02 PM (EEu0y)

77 Friedman is a horse's ass. Obama is a braying ass. They have something in common.

Posted by: Caliban at August 14, 2014 07:02 PM (2ArJQ)

78 Chique. Sorry. Ipad

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 07:02 PM (EEu0y)

79 If His Majesty says it, it must be so. Who believes the UN anyway?

Posted by: The American Press at August 14, 2014 07:03 PM (nNOfv)

80
So, the question becomes, why is Obama heading back to DC this weekend?

Ran out of blow.

Posted by: wth at August 14, 2014 07:03 PM (wAQA5)

81 Damnit. Shoulda gone with "Even A Slopped Cock Is Right Twice A Day."

Posted by: Sharkman at August 14, 2014 07:04 PM (TM1p8)

82 Imagine you were busy minding your own business committing genocide against a group of people, when the US just barged in and dropped food supplies for your targets. How would you feel? Haven't we disrupted their way of life enough already?

So the decision to just up and leave makes perfect sense.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:04 PM (r+7wo)

83 He is running back to DC in order to make ferguson and race an issue in the next election. Like a war on women. Only this time it's a war on race. Part of their get out the vote strategy

Posted by: ThunderB at August 14, 2014 07:05 PM (EEu0y)

84 64 First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.

-----

Sounds like climate change.
Posted by: BignJames at August 14, 2014 06:58 PM (j7iSn)


Well....that settles the science, once and for all.

Posted by: Billy the Mountain ....maybe at August 14, 2014 07:05 PM (lK6mM)

85 American Thinker
Obama's One-sided 'No victor/No vanquished' Maximalist Philosophy
http://tinyurl.com/pmfjhzm

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:05 PM (ZPrif)

86 Yup, no victors, no vanquished.

Posted by: The Carthaginians, the Moriari, the Caananites, et al. at August 14, 2014 07:06 PM (Y6xQZ)

87 "No victor,no vanquished." Is it too late to sign up for that?

Posted by: Hannibal at August 14, 2014 07:07 PM (2ArJQ)

88 Nut. Sometimes. Blind squirrel. Some assembly required.

Posted by: dogfish at August 14, 2014 07:07 PM (1vYi0)

89 "No victor,no vanquished." is the dumbest thing I've ever heard a grown man say.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif)

90 No victors, no vanquished?



Peace in our time!

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:08 PM (EEu0y)

91 He is busy lining up colored faces to stand behind him as he speaks to the racist nation on Sunday.... wait, did I say HE is doing it? No.... His people are doing it. This would be too much like real work.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 07:08 PM (jucos)

92 Participation trophies all around!

Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:08 PM (NeFrd)

93 Cut, jib, newsletter!

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:09 PM (EEu0y)

94 87
"No victor,no vanquished." Is it too late to sign up for that?



We'll also take some of that shit.

Posted by: Zombie Robert E Lee at August 14, 2014 07:09 PM (0FSuD)

95 Genius, pure genius!

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:09 PM (EEu0y)

96 Cut, jib, newsletter!

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:09 PM (EEu0y)


*****


Dude. You only had one jib...

Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:10 PM (NeFrd)

97 89 "No victor,no vanquished." is the dumbest thing I've ever heard a grown man say.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif)


If that philosophy had been in effect during WWII, all of Europe would certainly be Judenrein by now.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 07:10 PM (sdi6R)

98 The new leader of Iraq will be a fellow named Jack Isis.

Biden vouched for him.

Posted by: eman at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (Hppvk)

99 "Sad, but it seems to me that George Will has lost a real step."

Will was saying a few weeks ago that, why, of _course_ America should take in these sad Central American waifs flooding across its border, and proudly raise them up to be red-white-and-blue believers in baseball and apple pie.

Delusional. As bad as Glenn Beck on the issue.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (noWW6)

100 Surely this will satisfy ISIS

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (EEu0y)

101 91 He is busy lining up colored faces to stand behind him as he speaks to the racist nation on Sunday.... wait, did I say HE is doing it? No.... His people are doing it. This would be too much like real work.

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Posted by: Rent-A-Rainbow at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (vCR1W)

102 Peace in for our time!

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at August 14, 2014 07:08 PM (EEu0y)

Quote yourselfs correctly. http://tinyurl.com/yzmkls2

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (0FSuD)

103
So the only 'progress' in Iraq is Maliki ceasing to be a nuisance to an ineffective, pathetic Iraqi govt.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (z96ra)

104 Colonics for everyone!

Posted by: President Goines at August 14, 2014 07:12 PM (sDapq)

105 Greetings from Scenic El Paso, if Obama were an agent lf the Muslim Brotherhood being as subtle in aiding and prtecting RadIslam as he had to be to keep Xian Donkey types on the rez what would look any different?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:12 PM (gOBUy)

106 89 "No victor,no vanquished." is the dumbest thing I've ever heard a grown man say.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif)

Like he has that attitude towards elections.

But remember, Repubs and conservatives are worse than actual terrorists.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:13 PM (r+7wo)

107 Delusional. As bad as Glenn Beck on the issue.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 07:11 PM (noWW6)


The only thing missing were the Teddy bears.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 14, 2014 07:13 PM (W5DcG)

108 New headline at Drudge... Police Chief rips Obama: "Discussing tactics from Martha's Vineyard not helpful."

Posted by: andycanuck at August 14, 2014 07:13 PM (SSKck)

109 No victors, no vanquished

I think I'd do very well in this century.

Posted by: A. Schicklegrueber at August 14, 2014 07:14 PM (lK6mM)

110 Thomas Friedman makes a lot of sense to me, even though he is a Jew.

Posted by: President Obama at August 14, 2014 07:14 PM (2ArJQ)

111 So the only 'progress' in Iraq is Maliki ceasing to be a nuisance to an ineffective, pathetic Iraqi govt.

In #ThirtyDays. While a fast moving crisis heads his way.

Posted by: toby928(C) at August 14, 2014 07:14 PM (aqMeV)

112 SCOAMF does not the US to be a Superpower &
I think Freidman didn't ask JEF for that reason.

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (sj3Ax)

113 Honey, he's not a Jew. He writes for the New York Times.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (2ArJQ)

114 No victor, no vanquished eh? That must be what the call for martial law in MO is all about:

http://tinyurl.com/ogj9gf7

Can't have the local po pos subjugating yoots who just wanna steal things and riot. But you could confiscate personal weapons and round up and detain 'questionable' people...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (60Vyp)

115 So Friedman is unfamiliar with World War II?

Posted by: rickl


Many on the Left wish the West would have lost. Only a fraction of them are willing to admit it. Remember Hitler and Stalin were allies at the beginning.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (Y/M/K)

116 108 New headline at Drudge... Police Chief rips Obama: "Discussing tactics from Martha's Vineyard not helpful."

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I foresee a tax audit in somebody's future.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (vCR1W)

117 No victors no vanquished?


So, not even an overtime period. Or penalty kicks?

Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (NeFrd)

118 Georgy gone at Meet the Press. Chuck, truck driver goatee, Todd to replace him.


Per NY Slime

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (0FSuD)

119 116
108 New headline at Drudge... Police Chief rips Obama: "Discussing tactics from Martha's Vineyard not helpful."



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I foresee a tax audit in somebody's future.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:15 PM (vCR1W)

*golf clap*

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (sDapq)

120 106 Africa Chick,

Look one set of people are bigoted religious fundamentalist genociders...


The other side are my mortal enemy....

What do you want from me?

//Barky Ogabe

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (gOBUy)

121 About this "no victor, no vanquished" bullshit:

I can't remember who it was -- Stan McChrystal? -- but someone within DoD wrote, after dealing with Obama early on in his first term, that they were struck by the flat categorical refusal by Obama to state "victory" as being an end-state goal for America's military engagements abroad.

Nevertheless, in any fight between two ideologies, if one of the two believes in victory, and the other of the two does not believe in victory, expect for there to be a victory and expect for it to go to the former.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (noWW6)

122 Wife of Robin Williams said he had Parkinson's disease.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:17 PM (0FSuD)

123 So ... when does the rioting start tonight?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (ZPrif)

124 109 No victors, no vanquished

I think I'd do very well in this century.

Does that mean we are exporting Participation Trophies?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (HVff2)

125 118 Georgy gone at Meet the Press. Chuck, truck driver goatee, Todd to replace him.


Per NY Slime
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (0FSuD)

I'm sure Chuck Todd will fare so much better.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (r+7wo)

126 In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 06:47 PM


Maliki probably wishes he was President of the U.S., so he could be as lawless and disdainful of his own country as he wised, all the while knowing the two top "leaders" of the "opposition" party -- that would be Great Americans John Boner and Kevin McCarthy -- have announced that, no matter what, impeachment is "off the table."

Choom Boy's godlike power is absolute now. And I'm betting the "fairness" eunuchs at Tepid Air are busy doing the Happy Dance knowing that Bad Optics have been kept at bay.

Will our government degenerate into the kind of tin-pot dictatorship so beloved in the Middle East and South America? Bet on it, folks....

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (dDzOj)

127 Power vacuum in Baghdad? That sucks. Sounds like something President Hoover would have accomplished.

Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (NeFrd)

128 121 About this "no victor, no vanquished" bullshit:

I can't remember who it was -- Stan McChrystal? -- but someone within DoD wrote, after dealing with Obama early on in his first term, that they were struck by the flat categorical refusal by Obama to state "victory" as being an end-state goal for America's military engagements abroad.

Nevertheless, in any fight between two ideologies, if one of the two believes in victory, and the other of the two does not believe in victory, expect for there to be a victory and expect for it to go to the former.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (noWW6)


Yes, I remember that very well.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (sdi6R)

129 There is no substitute for victory.

Posted by: Douglas MacArthur at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (Y6xQZ)

130
Damn, I was pretty sure it would be andrea mitchell not Chuck Todd

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (z96ra)

131 I heard of "no justice no peace," but I never heard of no "no victor, no vanquished." Who do these people think they are, Bambi?

Posted by: The Rev. Al Sharpton at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (2ArJQ)

132 123 So ... when does the rioting start tonight?

----------

Meet in the big screen department at Best Buy at 11. Get there on time or there won't be any justice left.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (vCR1W)

133 I said a very long time ago that SCOAMF is our Neville Chamberlain!
I wonder if he knows who Neville was?

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (nMqL2)

134 122 Wife of Robin Williams said he had Parkinson's disease.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:17 PM (0FSuD)

My father had Parkinson's, MG and a wife with Alzheimer's. He died of natural causes. I suspect he had some pretty fucking depressing days.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (HVff2)

135 124 Misanthropic Humanitarian,

I'm pretty certain only our side is playing generation tippy cup...

Jihadi Jim like Ogabe plays CavinBall...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:20 PM (gOBUy)

136 Georgy gone at Meet the Press. Chuck, truck driver goatee, Todd to replace him.


Per NY Slime

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:16 PM (0FSuD)


Well, at least Meet the Press won't get (much) worse with the firm hand of Chuck Todd at the tiller!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 14, 2014 07:20 PM (o3MSL)

137 Funny, when Obama deals with Republicans he has clear goals of victory.

But President "I Won" never wants to bring to the jihadis the same ruthless aggression he unleashes on the American Right.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:20 PM (ZPrif)

138 Wrong again, imagine that.

Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2014 07:20 PM (G8ga7)

139 Theme music?



http://youtu.be/hamKl-su8PE

Posted by: Kaiser Chiefs at August 14, 2014 07:21 PM (Y6xQZ)

140 I wonder if he knows who Neville was?

*****


Wasn't he in Bridge On The River Kwai?

Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:21 PM (NeFrd)

141 Georgy gone at Meet the Press. Chuck, truck driver goatee, Todd to replace him.

Posted by: Nip Sip



Darn, I was hoping Mike Frank would get the job. Or Dick James. Or Fred John. Or Jack Mark...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:21 PM (Y/M/K)

142 Obama treats us like dirt, but doesn't want to hurt the feelings of ISIS.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 14, 2014 07:21 PM (ZPrif)

143 126 Mr Scribbler,

Fate arguably dealt JFK a Harsh Hand over Diem....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:22 PM (gOBUy)

144 No victor, no vanquished...All Bush's fault!

Posted by: Rgallegos at August 14, 2014 07:22 PM (AVODN)

145 No victors, no vanquished...

Except for those Tea Party people.

Oh...and all those global warming Deniers.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:22 PM (FNT/7)

146 127 Power vacuum in Baghdad? That sucks. Sounds like something President Hoover would have accomplished.
Posted by: Seamus M. at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (NeFrd)

Maybe General Kirby

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:23 PM (HVff2)

147 AoS lifestyle, PNW edition.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Seattle-lawn-chair-humper-576432

Posted by: flounder at August 14, 2014 07:23 PM (sDapq)

148 I'm sure Chuck Todd will fare so much better.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:18 PM (r+7wo)


How much lower can the ratings go?

Reckon, we'll find out.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (lK6mM)

149 Russian trucks heading to Ukraine border where Ukrainians have no control.



This could get ugly. Maybe that's what Obama's DC trip is all about.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (0FSuD)

150 122 Wife of Robin Williams said he had Parkinson's disease.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:17 PM (0FSuD)


That adds another dimension to his situation. Being diagnosed with an incurable degenerative disease would turn almost anybody to thoughts of suicide, even if they didn't already suffer from depression.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

151 Ace, Who's Eli Like???

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (r+7wo)

152 I read on Hill app that Ds in congress are upset because he
won't meet with them.

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (sj3Ax)

153
Maybe that's what Obama's DC trip is all about.

What's obama gonna do about it?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (z96ra)

154 Should have elected Billy Ayers prezzy, at least the camps would be open by now. That guy gets results man.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (ucDmr)

155 It is not a Truck Driver Beard..... as you say.... It is a Van Dyke. It hides the stretch marks on my face.

Posted by: F Chuck Todd, Rabid Sports and Van Dyke Enthusiast at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (jucos)

156 How much lower can the ratings go?



Reckon, we'll find out.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (lK6mM)

Trust me, a lot lower.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (0FSuD)

157 Fate arguably dealt JFK a Harsh Hand over Diem....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:22 PM


I've never bought that theory. I don't think the assassination had anything to do with VeetNam, and never did. I guess there was an outside chance Cuba was somehow mixed up in it, but my opinion has always been that Oswald was a fucked-up malcontent who got off a couple of one-in-a-million good shots.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2014 07:26 PM (dDzOj)

158
obama to the rescue!

Wait, what?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:26 PM (z96ra)

159 Ace, Who's Eli Like???

Posted by: chique d'afrique


The inventor of Like Cola, duh!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:26 PM (Y/M/K)

160 What's obama gonna do about it?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days
left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:25 PM (z96ra)


Hold his breath til he turns blue or Black and Blue, ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:26 PM (0FSuD)

161 149 Russian trucks heading to Ukraine border where Ukrainians have no control.



This could get ugly. Maybe that's what Obama's DC trip is all about.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (0FSuD)

Expect him to flaunt house GOP with amnesty. He's trying to get impeached. Only way that the public will rally around dems and him. It's gonna be bad, real bad

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:26 PM (HVff2)

162 A Madisonian idiot has gotten us into a war again ... but this one is too stupid to let the Jacksonians sort it out.

He just thinks he can make people like him at gunpoint.

What a broken-assed narcissist.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 14, 2014 07:27 PM (0zVEV)

163
Don't question my ability to make military decisions. I am better versed than all general officer's and especially the pundit class on cable television.

Posted by: Hussein the Vanquisher at August 14, 2014 07:27 PM (3eAHj)

164
obama is like Hancock (minus the super powers) who leaves a trail of destruction as he "helps" people

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:27 PM (z96ra)

165 I wonder if he knows who Neville was?

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:19 PM (nMqL2)


He'll tell you that he returned his bust to the Polish.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at August 14, 2014 07:27 PM (lK6mM)

166 "Funny, when Obama deals with Republicans he has clear goals of victory. But President 'I Won' never wants to bring to the jihadis the same ruthless aggression he unleashes on the American Right."

Proving that this odd asymmetry of response crosses party lines, see also Mitt Romney's having ruthlessly gone for the jugular of his 2012 Republican primary opponents, and then in the general election against Obama proceeded to whimper passive beta-male lines such as "Candy, can I just say that I agree with the President on this?"

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 07:27 PM (noWW6)

167 155
It is not a Truck Driver Beard..... as you say.... It is a Van Dyke.



Yeah, I know, but every fucking red neck truck driver and hipster has one.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (0FSuD)

168 Ace, Who's Eli Like???
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM (r+7wo)
*******
I believe he is most like his brother Rupert.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (jucos)

169 Hey, thanks ISIS!!!!

Posted by: Tony Stewart at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (IgN1D)

170 as he "helps" people

Posted by: Thoughts that never cross his lack of a mind at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (lK6mM)

171 Maybe that's what Obama's DC trip is all about.


Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:24 PM


My bet's on amnesty.

Now that Choom Boy has the gold-plated Get Out Of Jail Free Card, what's to stop his treasonous punk ass?

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (dDzOj)

172 Yeah, I know, but every fucking red neck truck driver and hipster has one.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (0FSuD)


Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at August 14, 2014 07:30 PM (lK6mM)

173 I posted that RW widow said today that he had Parkinson's & wasn't comfortable sharing diagnosis & Rush mentioned at end of show today.

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:30 PM (sj3Ax)

174 Chique -- Eli Lake is a columnist with Daily Beast. Holdover from Newsweek. Excellent reporter, and he is one of the few I would trust. Don't know how much longer he will be at the Beast, he is so far above the rest that it is hard to follow his reporting amidst the dreck.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at August 14, 2014 07:30 PM (MIKMs)

175 Well the Hill story says it's not about amnesty.


That means it probably is.


http://tinyurl.com/lxtg3u7

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (0FSuD)

176
Well, with the major accomplishment in the mountains of Iraq under his belt, obama now has fresh new political clout.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (z96ra)

177 157 Mr. Scribler,

It's why I said "fate" there's a apocryphal legend that Madam Diem inveighed a curse on Kennedy...

Me I think a commie defector did him in....

But it never ceases to amuse me that the "party of don't interfere with foreign nations" also gets to be the party of "hey you you you're fired..." (only when they are in charge....otherwise the US is evil for doing so...ask Al-NYT)

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (gOBUy)

178
"A good time was had by all."

Indeed.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (z96ra)

179 167 155
It is not a Truck Driver Beard..... as you say.... It is a Van Dyke.



Yeah, I know, but every fucking red neck truck driver and hipster has one.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:28 PM (0FSuD)

Fuck you. I've had mine for 20+ years and I'm none of the categories you mentioned. Lol

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (HVff2)

180 No victor, no vanquished?

No casualties?

They expect people to support this crap with their lives?

No wonder the military can't keep anyone and recruiting is down.

Posted by: Trainer needs a militia at August 14, 2014 07:32 PM (szCYi)

181
I suggested to the president that Maliki had to go before Iraq could progress to defeat the terrorist.

Posted by: Cankles Rodham at August 14, 2014 07:33 PM (3eAHj)

182 Peace in our time BITCHES!

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at August 14, 2014 07:33 PM (jucos)

183 179 plus one.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 07:34 PM (ucDmr)

184
obama's Armed Forces: A Force For Indifference!

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:34 PM (z96ra)

185 But it never ceases to amuse me that the "party of
don't interfere with foreign nations" also gets to be the party of "hey
you you you're fired..." (only when they are in charge....otherwise the
US is evil for doing so...ask Al-NYT)

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM


Yeah, and they're all so sanctimonious about it.

Diam could have stayed if only he had done what the Kennedys wanted -- which was, of course, What's Good For America -- and Maliki could have kept his job if only he'd played footsie with Choom Boy.

We're damn lucky President I Stand With Muslims doesn't have the authority he wishes he had over Israel....

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2014 07:34 PM (dDzOj)

186 I think he really does support Tom Friedman's idea of "no victor, no vanquished" in warfare.

THEN WHO IS WON

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:35 PM (Y/M/K)

187 Did anyone hear or see audio of black man yelling at others in MO to stop acting like animals? It was great. Man went on & at one point asked where is Hollyweird because they have
Planet of Apes & told them to stop looting.

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:35 PM (sj3Ax)

188 Isn't Marthas Vineyard on an island? Wouldn't it tip over with all those corpulent fuckers all in one place?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 07:35 PM (ucDmr)

189
I'm kind of itchy down there tonight, so I won't be posting any brilliant commentary so beloved by so many.

Posted by: Sir Edmund Clinton at August 14, 2014 07:36 PM (3eAHj)

190 Why is Ferguson not imposing a curfew?



WTF? They just want to use the new equipment

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:36 PM (0FSuD)

191 Iowahawk, as usual, gets right to the point:

Washington is full of people who believe police need to have tanks and Marines need to have arrest warrants.

https://tinyurl.com/l2czqk7

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 07:36 PM (sdi6R)

192 Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:36 PM (0FSuD)

Curfew was floated.

Media balked about "rights"

They pulled back.

Highway Patrol is saying "A new tone!" We'll see what happens around 10PM

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 months! at August 14, 2014 07:37 PM (HDwDg)

193
Why is Ferguson not imposing a curfew?

We only impose curfew's on white people.

Posted by: MO Attorney General at August 14, 2014 07:37 PM (3eAHj)

194 Man is Jonathan Gentry & video is @
Howiecarr.com

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:37 PM (sj3Ax)

195 #185, added --

Also, look at how much good it did to broom Diem in the 'Nam. Ditto Qadaffi (or however the hell you spell it), ditto the Shah, and probably ditto Maliki.

Just because you toss out the asshole leader of some shithole "nation," doesn't mean they don't have a whole raft of new assholes ready to take over.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2014 07:38 PM (dDzOj)

196 I got rid of Gaddafi. I got rid of Mubarak. I got rid of Maliki. I'm on a roll!

Posted by: President Obama at August 14, 2014 07:38 PM (2ArJQ)

197 Obama's Armed Forces: An Army of Fun

Posted by: andycanuck at August 14, 2014 07:38 PM (SSKck)

198 So let me get this straight. 0bama is basically saying, crisis over and is going to adandon the Kurds? Da Fuq does he get his information. Vox?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 14, 2014 07:39 PM (/KiIU)

199
Tonight we burn the bitch down!

Posted by: Ferguson Protesters at August 14, 2014 07:40 PM (3eAHj)

200 196 I got rid of Gaddafi. I got rid of Mubarak. I got rid of Maliki. I'm on a roll!
Posted by: President Obama


Ham on a roll, if you ask me.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 14, 2014 07:40 PM (2ArJQ)

201 @190

Curfew? Fucking Balto has one for all teenagers under 18. It's run by democrats.


Keeping the doped up teens off the street is a good start in cleaning up shit.



http://tinyurl.com/md63fzt

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:40 PM (0FSuD)

202
Its the broken clock theory of foreign policy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 14, 2014 07:40 PM (w4KwQ)

203 There's a bridge from Mount Sinjar to Baghdad that the besieged are using to make their escape.

Posted by: vox splainin' at August 14, 2014 07:41 PM (SSKck)

204 Fuck you. I've had mine for 20+ years and I'm none of the categories you mentioned. Lol

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 07:31 PM (HVff2)


concur.... had mine since I retired from the Nav...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2014 07:41 PM (84gbM)

205 NOT IN MY NAME!

Posted by: Craig Ferguson at August 14, 2014 07:41 PM (jucos)

206 200 196 I got rid of Gaddafi. I got rid of Mubarak. I got rid of Maliki. I'm on a roll!
Posted by: President Obama

Ham on a roll, if you ask me.
Posted by: Mitt Romney


Hold the pickle!

Posted by: Sandra Fluck at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (2ArJQ)

207 So, the Islamic State cannot be humiliated with a "vanquishing" defeat?

Since I am already tagged with the scarlet 'R', I can say this with a degree of impunity . . .

Human populations differ.

Semites differ from the rest of humanity in some important ways. I am part Semitic myself so I see this with the Jews and with the Arabs alike: for Semites, the written word has an importance which borders on the mystical. A Jew simply cannot understand when a western Christian speaks of "the curse of the Law". The written Law, to a Jew, is a blessing. So it was to Hammurabi's Akkadian-speaking Babylonians. And so it is to Arab Muslims. I'd be surprised if even Syrian Christians talked about "the curse of the law" very much (and they are no fans of Jews).

Arabs, in turn, differ from Jews and Syriac Christians in some important ways. Relevant here, Arabs appreciate strength. They do look out for the weak among their tribe - orphans, widows, those crippled in battle - but the operative sense here is pity. The Arab would not say "blessed are the weak". It'd make his head spin to hear it.

So the only way to defeat a bandit gang which happens to be run by Arabs, is to defeat it. Make it known that the gang is weak.

As for Islam at large, it would help - if I am right about the Semitic mindset - if it could be demonstrated across the Near East that the Muslims' written kitab is not Divine.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (3kZUM)

208 Greta just showed streets full of protesters in NYC...

What's that about? What are they protesting?

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (FNT/7)

209 Isn't Marthas Vineyard on an island? Wouldn't it tip over with all those corpulent fuckers all in one place?Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 07:35 PM (ucDmr) ......Not if they put Hillary right in the middle, but if they let her waddle over to the beach...

Posted by: wth at August 14, 2014 07:43 PM (wAQA5)

210
are you guys talking about evil Spock beards?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-412 days left until climate chaos) at August 14, 2014 07:43 PM (z96ra)

211 Ah, "no victors, no vanquished."

I presume Friedman is not claiming this is a historical fact (um, Rome vs. Carthage, Yanks vs. Rebs, Allies vs Axis., etc. etc.), but rather that this is how war SHOULD be.

And yes, some wars do "end" with "no victors, no vanquished." But guess what? When that happens, hostilities simmer forever and things get worse and never resolve themselves and the animus doesn't end until the war re-ignites and someone finally does win, or until one side just implodes through the pressure of attrition after decades.

Look at three famous examples of modern wars with "no victors, no vanquished":

1. Korean War. Still raging. Active shooting stopped only due to a ceasefire. Nobody won. Result? Country divided, half the population living in epic tragedy, the other half fearing missiles at any moment, the world constantly having to police the border, etc. Yay! So much better than a decisive victory for the good guys.

2. The Arab-Israeli War. Israel has won major battles, but never fully conquered the enemy. The fighting stops for a bit, and then inevitably breaks out again, through state or non-state actors, over and over ever since 1948. Result? Israel constantly living under threat, Pal. Arabs living in isolation, extremism breeding there endlessly. If Israel had truly won, just had the leash let go and kicked ass, they'd control everything from the Jordan to the Nile, and the Arabs who lived there would be a zillion times better off, with prosperity, voting rights, no extremism, etc. But no. Better to have "no vanquished."

3. The Chinese Civil War. Raging since 1911. Still unresolved. Nationalists retreated to Formosa, set up superior society. Communists seized mainland, plunged it into totalitarianism. Nationalists still regard themselves as legitimate rulers of all China; Communists regard Taiwan as "breakaway province." They're still at war, but too afraid to shoot. Yay! So much better than a unified country at peace.

Friedman: Thou art buffoon.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2014 07:44 PM (izqG1)

212 >>>Obama Wins One: Maliki Steps Down


-------------

Obama is now batting a very respectable .0016 on foreign policy decisionmaking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:45 PM (vCR1W)

213 208
Greta just showed streets full of protesters in NYC...



What's that about? What are they protesting?

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (FNT/7)

Not having a QT to burn down. Excuse for a little warm weather night time "shopping".

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:46 PM (0FSuD)

214 That picture of Hillary on Drudge right now is....perfect.
It should be used hereafter as the quintessential picture of the Hildebeast.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:46 PM (FNT/7)

215 Also, I'll just reiterate, that Krugman will suck cock for $50,000 but Friedman sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:46 PM (3kZUM)

216 You know if the "hood" decides, thanks to Obama, that this can be the new "Trayvon" cause, then we can see some good rioting all over the country.


Then the suppression of the riots will be racist and hopefully for Obama the brothers will get mad an go vote.



That's their plan.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:48 PM (0FSuD)

217 Ugh, I expect Occupy wannabes to make downtown Boulder a PITA this weekend, especially during the evenings.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:48 PM (3kZUM)

218 208 Greta just showed streets full of protesters in NYC...

What's that about? What are they protesting?
Posted by: wheatie


As I posted in variosu threads earlier today: Anonymous announced nationwide anti-police protests tonight, and the occupy infrastructure picked up the call. Mostly there will be protests in the big urban areas. But it will be mostly white people and communists.

It is tomorrow night that the race riots are scheduled in major black slums around the country.

Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2014 07:48 PM (izqG1)

219 >>>Obama Wins One: Maliki Steps Down

-------------

Obama is now batting a very respectable .0016 on foreign policy decisionmaking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:45 PM (vCR1W)


Mendoza Line's lookin' pretty good now.

Posted by: Mario Mendoza at August 14, 2014 07:48 PM (3a584)

220 208 Greta just showed streets full of protesters in NYC... What's that about? What are they protesting?
Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (FNT/7)

They're protesting the lack of summer. It violates the Narrative.

Posted by: Stanley Fish at August 14, 2014 07:49 PM (2ArJQ)

221 I just told my older brother about Mr. Gentry. He told me a black athlete said Al (racist word) Sharpton only stirs things up & to get him out of MO!

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 07:50 PM (sj3Ax)

222 What's that about? What are they protesting?
Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (FNT/7)
********
They are protesting all of the black kids killed by other black kids in New York so far in August.......NOT. Just kidding. They are protesting the krazed killer kops krushing kolored kommunities. They are everywhere..... Zombie killer cops

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 07:51 PM (jucos)

223 Race riots are back circa. The 60's. Thanks prezzy Choad Load, for taking race relations back thirty years. Fuckstick.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 07:51 PM (ucDmr)

224 215 Also, I'll just reiterate, that Krugman will suck cock for $50,000 but Friedman sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:46 PM (3kZUM)

In for a penny, in for a pound!

Posted by: Shep Smith at August 14, 2014 07:51 PM (2ArJQ)

225 218...Posted by: zombie at August 14, 2014 07:48 PM (izqG1)

Thanks, zombie.
Yeah, the footage that Gretaran showedmostly all white people in the streets.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:53 PM (FNT/7)

226 Yeah, I got in my #217 before zombie's #218...

I live here. I've seen the #occupy goons up front. One of them thrust at me with a placard (admittedly I'd given them the finger first).

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:53 PM (3kZUM)

227 222... They are protesting the krazed killer kops krushing kolored kommunities. They are everywhere..... Zombie killer cops

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Heh.

I guess they figure it's Okay for all the big government agencies to be militarized, though.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:55 PM (FNT/7)

228 Obama has worked for six years to inflame racial tensions and divide America on lines of race and economics. He even named an unreconstructed racist as his Attorney General. Now all those efforts may be finally coming to fruition.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 14, 2014 07:55 PM (vCR1W)

229 ThunderB: God help anyone anywhere who relies on the JEF for their survival.

Tell us about it ...

Posted by: The Ukrainians at August 14, 2014 07:56 PM (0zVEV)

230 226 I live here. I've seen the #occupy goons up front. One of them thrust at me with a placard (admittedly I'd given them the finger first).
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:53 PM (3kZUM)

My girlfriend is from Boulder. I call her "twin peaks."

Posted by: Kyle Merritt MacLachlan at August 14, 2014 07:56 PM (2ArJQ)

231 "The wife of former Egyptian president Muhammad Morsi is the latest Muslim Brotherhood 'insider' to threaten to expose the special relationship between Morsi and the Obama administration---a relationship the latter insists never existed."
See the sock for the link. Let's hope the bitch spills her guts.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 14, 2014 07:56 PM (SSKck)

232 WINNING

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at August 14, 2014 07:57 PM (jucos)

233
If obama is going back to DC, it's only to strategize on how to make things worse in Ferguson.

I really believe that. obama is, after all, a political terrorist.

Posted by: soothern man at August 14, 2014 07:57 PM (z96ra)

234 Brutal Michael Ramirez Op-Ed cartoon at Powerlineblog.com

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (Y/M/K)

235
The O'Ingraham Factor on now!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (3eAHj)

236 226...Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:53 PM (3kZUM)

Well hopefully the ones there in CO will be really stoned, Bth.
That way they'll just go loot some donut shops and crash.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (FNT/7)

237 The Blogmocracy is down

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (3kZUM)

238 Hey Barry, do I have to go too?

Posted by: Bashar Assad at August 14, 2014 06:51 PM (vCR1W)
Not if my writers have anything to say about it.

Posted by: Bassam Al-Fayeed at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (A6vWB)

239 No victor, no vanquished. Just the sort of philosophy that would take into account the value of "face".
30 years from now there will be a small news item that says that Tom Friedman was on the PRC payroll for 20 years and that he approached them first.

Posted by: Daybrother at August 14, 2014 07:59 PM (9WmFE)

240 Laura is in for O'R and is kicking ass. I'd DO her!

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:59 PM (0FSuD)

241 Weft cut loop,
I love Powerline blog emails.

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 08:00 PM (sj3Ax)

242
Laura is in for O'R and is kicking ass. I'd DO her!


Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:59 PM (0FSuD)

Actually, she'd do you with vigor and for revenge!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:00 PM (3eAHj)

243 this is the way I imagined it

Posted by: John Lennon at August 14, 2014 08:00 PM (bRL1M)

244 235 The O'Ingraham Factor on now!

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I watch it when Laura is subbing...it's always better than when O'Bloviate is there.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 08:00 PM (FNT/7)

245 bill o'really.....is a blow hard...yet i watch his show almost every night.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 14, 2014 08:01 PM (u8GsB)

246 See, President Obama's plan worked and Bush's did not. We love our Black President in Brattleboro.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline from Brattleboro,VT at August 14, 2014 08:01 PM (hP/Mt)

247 No victor, no vanquished. Isn't that kind of how the Korean war ended? And that worked out just fine for everyone (except for the North Korean trees which have had their bark stripped for that local delicasy, "Tannin Tea.")

Posted by: bergerbilder at August 14, 2014 08:02 PM (8MjqI)

248
Dorcus, you ignorant slut!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:02 PM (3eAHj)

249 I saw "uncertain trumpet" open for Van Halen in 1983.

I really pissed off Maliki the last time I visited Iraq: I skinny-dipped in the Euphrates.

Talk about a square...

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 14, 2014 08:02 PM (vRFDA)

250 Interesting, if disheartening, map:

http://iswiraq.blogspot.ca/2014/08/control-of-terrain-in-iraq-august-13.html

Posted by: logprof at August 14, 2014 08:03 PM (Y6xQZ)

251 North Korean trees which have had their bark stripped for that local delicasy, "Tannin Tea.")
Posted by: bergerbilder at August 14, 2014 08:02 PM (8MjqI)

I'm So Ronery

Posted by: Kim Jong-il at August 14, 2014 08:03 PM (bRL1M)

252 For the nice person who tried to answer my question?0, thank you.

I know who Eli Lake is. Just trying to alert Ace to the typo.

Posted by: Chique - free MWR! at August 14, 2014 08:03 PM (r+7wo)

253 Dorcus would have to get coherent to be ignorant.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 08:04 PM (ucDmr)

254 "Laura is in for O'R and is kicking ass."

Please, oh Lord, for once hear my earnest prayers, and have Fox permanently can O'Blowhard, and replace him with Ingraham.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 08:04 PM (noWW6)

255 191 Iowahawk, as usual, gets right to the point:

Washington is full of people who believe police need to have tanks and Marines need to have arrest warrants.

https://tinyurl.com/l2czqk7
Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 07:36 PM (sdi6R)

Outstanding

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 08:04 PM (HVff2)

256 NO injuries in Ferguson as a result of 'police brutality'


none, zero, zilch


but two dweebs had to leave a McD.

Posted by: a meme is a terrible thing to waste at August 14, 2014 08:04 PM (8CdUx)

257
FACTOID: Laura Ingram at the lowest point of her life dated Keef Olberdork!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:05 PM (3eAHj)

258 240 Laura is in for O'R and is kicking ass. I'd DO her!
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 07:59 PM (0FSuD)

With mkh as desert?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 08:06 PM (HVff2)

259 234 Brutal Michael Ramirez Op-Ed cartoon at Powerlineblog.com

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 07:58 PM (Y/M/K)


Just bumps in the road, brah.

Posted by: Barky the Duffer at August 14, 2014 08:06 PM (Y6xQZ)

260 Ferguson is a distraction. It is the fuse for something bigger. I'm glad I live in Jesusland.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 08:06 PM (ucDmr)

261 254...Please, oh Lord, for once hear my earnest prayers, and have Fox permanently can O'Blowhard, and replace him with Ingraham.

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That would be great, wouldn't it.
Then, it would be back-to-back blondes on their lineup.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 08:07 PM (FNT/7)

262
MKH is the beautiful chick in college that would never agree to a blowjob because of her religious background. Or something.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:07 PM (3eAHj)

263 Where does ISIS go after crushing Irak? I say Fraudi Arabia.... Horde?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 14, 2014 08:07 PM (jucos)

264 Brutal Michael Ramirez Op-Ed cartoon at Powerlineblog.com

Whoa.

Posted by: toby928(C) at August 14, 2014 08:08 PM (cfLE7)

265 libs want to turn war into a soccer game


GOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: a meme is a terrible thing to waste at August 14, 2014 08:09 PM (8CdUx)

266 The 60's. Thanks prezzy Choad Load, for taking race relations back thirty years.

You do realize those numbers don't subtract up, right?

I would put it closer to 100 years, you know, to when the progressive Dems threw the blacks out of the Navy and segregated the federal civil service.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 14, 2014 08:09 PM (xq1UY)

267 Shit, the Ramirez link got all Pixy'd.

Trying ag'in

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 08:10 PM (Y/M/K)

268 FACTOID: Laura Ingram at the lowest point of her life dated Keef Olberdork!
Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:05 PM (3eAHj)

--Was that when he was Sportsqueef or Progqueef?

Posted by: Barky the Duffer at August 14, 2014 08:11 PM (Y6xQZ)

269 YeahStringer, I saw that after I posted. I stand corrected. Thank you sir.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 14, 2014 08:11 PM (ucDmr)

270 /scoamf sock

Posted by: logprof at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (Y6xQZ)

271 Where does ISIS go after crushing Irak? I say Fraudi Arabia.... Horde?

The caliphate (don't call it "ISIS") will move south *before* crushing Iraq. They didn't wait to crush Syria before taking all those towns on the map.

The caliph'll tell the Arabs in Saudi-occupied Arabia that they're offering the same shari'a but with a track-record of victory.

First, the caliph will want to turn some of those red and yellow dots to black. Just to secure the flank.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (3kZUM)

272 You are what you is
A cow, not a ham

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (HVff2)

273 On the Mt. Sinjar issue...

Obama sent a 20 Man... er... person? Team in to access the situation, then declared it done...

The area in question is 45 miles long, and several miles wide... there is no way in ONE day that team could really search or access that area....

So... I call bullshit....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (84gbM)

274 Nighty night, Morons. See you before the sun comes up.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (KuU4f)

275
Donkey kills saudi attempting to sodomize it.

http://goo.gl/OjVrn8

I would believe it more if the picture had his dick out.

Posted by: Pug the Boneless at August 14, 2014 08:15 PM (QZcg+)

276 Hold the pickle!

Posted by: Sandra Fluck at August 14, 2014 07:42 PM (2ArJQ)

Would you like a picture with that?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 14, 2014 08:17 PM (sDapq)

277 Anyone notice that Drudge site is down?

Posted by: madtechie at August 14, 2014 08:19 PM (KcIpf)

278 Dorcus, I appreciate your thoughts. I am glad you are with the correctly thinking persons of Brattleboro and not those horrible Sarah Palin worshipping sluts from the Brattleboro Republican Women's Club. Now think correct thought and not about how much you miss the heroin or truck stop dick.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 14, 2014 08:19 PM (kQfOx)

279 268
FACTOID: Laura Ingram at the lowest point of her life dated Keef Olberdork!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 14, 2014 08:05 PM (3eAHj)



No. You are thinking about Ann Coulter I believe or did Ann date the porn guys son?


I get confused.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:19 PM (0FSuD)

280 Obama sent a 20 Man... er... person? Team in to access the situation, then declared it done...

The area in question is 45 miles long, and several miles wide... there is no way in ONE day that team could really search or access that area....

So... I call bullshit....
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2014 08:12 PM (84gbM)

Not if,that's what you are looking for

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 08:20 PM (HVff2)

281 no, Drudge is on. They did an update.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 08:20 PM (3kZUM)

282 No. You are thinking about Ann Coulter I believe or did Ann date the porn guys son?


I get confused.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:19 PM (0FSuD)


--Coulter dated Bill Maher.

Posted by: logprof at August 14, 2014 08:21 PM (Y6xQZ)

283 The GTO is up next. Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:21 PM (8FyP4)

284 Oh look, Malaysian Airlines is now under scrutiny for sexual assault

I do believe I'll be going Qantas if I have to get to Kuala Lampur

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 08:21 PM (3kZUM)

285 @277

Drudge working for me although all day I have had problems with firefox crashing

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:23 PM (0FSuD)

286 263
Where does ISIS go after crushing Irak? I say Fraudi Arabia.... Horde?
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Considering that the most fundamental strain of Sunni Islam, Wahhabism, originated in SA, I would say that the Saudi royal family has got to crapping in their pants right now. Because IS is predominately Sunni, they could turn their sights on SA and overthrow the House of Saud because they are not "pure" enough, and the oil money may not buy them off like they've been doing for decades. Although Jordan may be the next stepping stone as well.

Posted by: lfw - 35 days to retirement at August 14, 2014 08:23 PM (vVSOO)

287 Careful if you venture over to Weasel Zippers, the site tried to give me a virus disguised as a Java update.

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 08:23 PM (knfPD)

288 no, Drudge is on. They did an update.

My bad.

Posted by: madtechie at August 14, 2014 08:24 PM (KcIpf)

289 If they take out Saudi Arabia, they will also end the petro-dollar.

The petro-dollar was the only reason the Saudis did not get slapped for 9-11.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 14, 2014 08:25 PM (0zVEV)

290 287 Careful if you venture over to Weasel Zippers, the site tried to give me a virus disguised as a Java update.

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility

________________________________________

Really? My home computer keeps asking me to upgrade Java, even though I have the latest version. Damn.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:25 PM (8FyP4)

291 @282


Yeah, she also dated Bob Guccione, Jr, while he was publisher of Penthouse.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:25 PM (0FSuD)

292 GTO on the stage.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:25 PM (8FyP4)

293 As per Countrysquire - possibly-world-record GTO up for auction at Bonhams now!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:26 PM (0NHQp)

294 Opens at 10 million

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:26 PM (8FyP4)

295 Already at 30 million

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:26 PM (8FyP4)

296 #ThinkAboutMtSinjar

Posted by: Liberal answer for helping dying christians at August 14, 2014 08:26 PM (KlVdw)

297 Bidding has stalled at 31.5 MM.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:27 PM (8FyP4)

298 Really? My home computer keeps asking me to upgrade Java, even though I have the latest version. Damn.

If a browser tab pops open and it indicated an IP address instead of a URL be careful . Get rid of the tab immediately and DO NOT CLICK ON ANY HOT BUTTONS.

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 08:28 PM (knfPD)

299
Excellent and scary article by Karol, Allahpundit's and Ace's Beard:

http://goo.gl/GU3Evn

Posted by: Pug the Boneless at August 14, 2014 08:28 PM (QZcg+)

300 297
Bidding has stalled at 31.5 MM.

Holy crap !

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 08:29 PM (knfPD)

301 Now at 33.5

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:29 PM (8FyP4)

302 Anyone notice that Drudge site is down?



Up now.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 08:30 PM (2MF4y)

303 34 million, still going.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:31 PM (8FyP4)

304 "Careful if you venture over to Weasel Zippers, the site tried to give me a virus disguised as a Java update."

Yep. Seems to be more and more of this bogus-update stuff going on as a vector for malware.

Best practices are always to say, "Oh, an update? Great. I'll go directly to the actual authorized Web site and download it there."

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (noWW6)

305 302
Anyone notice that Drudge site is down?







Up now.

Big Bro making some changes?

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (knfPD)

306 Were is the feed or what channel

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (0FSuD)

307 Keep in mind, there will be a 10% premium on top of the bid price, so we are really over $37 million.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (8FyP4)

308 264 Brutal Michael Ramirez Op-Ed cartoon at Powerlineblog.com -----

That's one chilling cartoon, cuts to the bone. Hope someone is seething at the white house

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (HVff2)

309 [io]areful if you venture over to Weasel Zippers, the site tried to give me a virus disguised as a Java update.

Posted by: Thin Veneer

I ran the URL through the McAfee SiteAdvisor.com and it came up clean.

VirusTotal.com gives it a 0/58 detection ratio.

A Google search didn't flag it.

It sounds like either it's a legit Java update, or your machine already had the problem.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 14, 2014 08:33 PM (Y/M/K)

310 215 Also, I'll just reiterate, that Krugman will suck cock for $50,000 but Friedman sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 07:46 PM (3kZUM)

Disgusting. I won't suck a cock for a penny less than $240k. I'm a man with standards, thank you very much.

Posted by: Robert Reiccccchhhhh at August 14, 2014 08:33 PM (mx5oN)

311 www.bonhams.com

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:33 PM (8FyP4)

312 Big Bro making some changes?


Probably NSA shift change.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 08:33 PM (2MF4y)

313 Yeah, she also dated Bob Guccione, Jr, while he was publisher of Penthouse.

Alphagame will out, for some females.

This is why I don't bother with MKH, by the way - at least, not for politics. She married a (successful) liberal activist. That means that she doesn't take politics very seriously. Which is fine . . . except that the only reason she gets any attention on the Internet at all is because she writes about politics.

Suppose Andrew Bostom or a similar counterjihad author married a woman in niqab and the woman continued merrily preaching in CAIR-sponsored masajid. Would we really take Bostom seriously after that? I'd suspect Bostom of playing games.

Bostom wouldn't do it. But Ham did.

I'm happy for Ham personally, but I won't take her seriously as a political thinker.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 08:34 PM (3kZUM)

314 307 Keep in mind, there will be a 10% premium on top of the bid price, so we are really over $37 million.
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:32 PM (8FyP4)


Is there something special about this car? Is it one of a kind, or did it belong to somebody famous?

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

315 Yep; It's a brutal Ramirez cartoon on Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/n7y854q

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2014 08:37 PM (oyOpn)

316 $34,400,000 and still going.

Do I bid now?

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:37 PM (8FyP4)

317 I'm happy for Ham personally, but I won't take her seriously as a political thinker.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 14, 2014 08:34 PM (3kZUM)

I like her tits and isn't she from Durham NC?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:37 PM (0FSuD)

318 The guy on the phone wants this.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:37 PM (0NHQp)

319 Ugh.

Only football game on around here is the Bears losing to the Kittehs With the Oddly Painted Helmets.

Think I'm gonna riot. Could use some new wheels for my truck.

Posted by: was hoping for a "real" game at August 14, 2014 08:38 PM (VFsPo)

320 Is there something special about this car? Is it one of a kind, or did it belong to somebody famous?

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

John Voight.

Posted by: George Costanza at August 14, 2014 08:38 PM (sDapq)

321 $34,400,000 and still going.

Do I bid now?


Pull the trigger. Pull the trigger!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 14, 2014 08:38 PM (2MF4y)

322 OK where is the feed? The website has a link somewhere? I couldn't find it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:38 PM (0FSuD)

323 http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/live/

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:39 PM (0NHQp)

324 Actually. Guess that's the only one on tonight. Most are tomorrow.

Posted by: was hoping for a "real" game at August 14, 2014 08:40 PM (VFsPo)

325 @323

All I am getting is music and a video?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:41 PM (0FSuD)

326 Well, the UN says the mountaintop refugees be in 'dire' straights and Barkey sez no dey ain't. I don't trust either. Kill all of ISIS and it won't matter, I guess.

Posted by: eureka! at August 14, 2014 08:41 PM (J1zGl)

327 It's one of 39. They are currently considered the most valuable cars in the world, surpassing the Bugatti Royale (there were only 6). A Royale hasn't sold since '89, so who knows.

My video feed is horrible, but it sounds like the final hammer was $37,950,000 with buyer premium.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:42 PM (8FyP4)

328 Kinda odd that they'd auction the biggest item in the middle of the lots, but I guess they know their business.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:42 PM (0NHQp)

329 I am getting a T 330 at $750K WTF

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:43 PM (0FSuD)

330 I see the F sold for $34.5 Mill

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:44 PM (0FSuD)

331 Did you see that cartoon? Send Ms. Lerner an email, have her put the cartoonist on the shit list.

Posted by: Someone at the White House at August 14, 2014 08:44 PM (Q3tFF)

332 All I am getting is music and a video?

Yeah, you tuned in just after the GTO was sold.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:44 PM (0NHQp)

333 @332

I guess that's like my posting. Guarantees a new thread.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 14, 2014 08:45 PM (0FSuD)

334 328 Kinda odd that they'd auction the biggest item in the middle of the lots, but I guess they know their business.
Posted by: Waterhouse

______________________________________

I thought that there would have more build -up as well, but it's a GTO, so how much does it need. There are quite a few other "cheaper" Ferraris coming up, so I guess since those buyers still have money in their pockets, they are primed to spend it.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:47 PM (8FyP4)

335 *I* have bigger tits than Ms. Ham. Nip Sip lives up to his nic, I suppose.

Posted by: A surfboard at August 14, 2014 08:50 PM (pjU4M)

336 Car similar to the Ferris Bueller car up, 4 million and moving.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:51 PM (8FyP4)

337 TOUCHDOWN!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 14, 2014 08:52 PM (YS3vj)

338 That GTO had been nearly destroyed while racing and had been rebuilt by Ferrari. There are some out there with better provenance that will bring north of $50,000,000.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:53 PM (8FyP4)

339
http://tinyurl.com/lxklswg

Here is video I posted about earlier from Mr Gentry

Posted by: Carol at August 14, 2014 08:53 PM (sj3Ax)

340 Up to 6 million. I'm not a fan of this design, but obviously many others are.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:54 PM (8FyP4)

341 323 http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/live/
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2014 08:39 PM (0NHQp)


1958 FERRARI 250 GT SERIES 1 CABRIOLET

Going for $6 million now.

My Mazda 5 looks like a bargain at $19,200 and it has a lot more cargo space.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 08:54 PM (sdi6R)

342
Obama sends a team to Sinjar,then announces the problem is solved, no need for boots on the ground.
A few hours later Russia openly sends tanks across the border into Ukraine.
Coincidence? Nah.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at August 14, 2014 08:55 PM (Hk6kY)

343 315 Yep; It's a brutal Ramirez cartoon on Obama:
http://tinyurl.com/n7y854q

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Saw that earlier. ...And yeah, it's brutal and one of Ramirez's Best Ever.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2014 08:56 PM (vU3pP)

344 My Mazda 5 looks like a bargain at $19,200 and it has a lot more cargo space.
Posted by: rickl

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And is probably faster.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:56 PM (8FyP4)

345 343
315 Yep; It's a brutal Ramirez cartoon on Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/n7y854q



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Saw that earlier. ...And yeah, it's brutal and one of Ramirez's Best Ever.

Sent it to everyone I know.

Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 14, 2014 08:58 PM (knfPD)

346 Next one is at $6.5 million, but it sounds like there are three guys bidding.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:59 PM (8FyP4)

347 344
And is probably faster.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 14, 2014 08:56 PM (8FyP4)


Dunno about that, but last week I did manage to get ahead of a SEPTA bus that was trying to merge into my lane and push me into oncoming traffic.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 09:04 PM (sdi6R)

348 Open thread up.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 14, 2014 09:06 PM (noWW6)

349 There's a car auction going on:

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/live/

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

350 Oops, wrong thread.

Posted by: rickl at August 14, 2014 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

351 Obama Wins One: Maliki Steps Down

The price, though, was rather high.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 14, 2014 11:44 PM (WwNDl)

352 Okay, so this is good news out of Iraq? I'm not an expert, but I'll accept that the consensus is that it's a positive development.

So that means we'll get to hear Obama sing his favorite cut from Let It Be: "I, Me, Mine"

But if this ultimately, through a series of twists and turns, becomes a negative development, we're guaranteed to get Obama's other favorite song: "It Wasn't Me"

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 15, 2014 08:09 AM (xN1DB)

353 Obama and his allies ISIS win. How wonderful.

Posted by: burt at August 15, 2014 09:18 AM (yp2Xd)

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