WSJ Op-Ed: Hey, Conservatives, Stop Beating Up on Crony Capitalism

!!!

He actually, out of his own mouth, seems to equate "big business" with "crony capitalism."

I guess we're not debating the terminology any longer.

Amid the fight for the soul of the Republican Party, some elements of the GOP coalition have become overtly hostile to Big Business.

Defeating crony capitalism has become the battle cry of libertarian conservatives.

The Export-Import Bank has become the latest in a long line of targets that include highway funding, terrorism risk insurance and "too big to fail" banks.

Big Business wants immigration reform and higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools--policy priorities that drive the hard right into conniptions.

...

What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides? What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?

Ah, so it's hardball, then.

Well here's another question, then: What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business?

So long as we're talking about Things We Each Could Do.

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1 first?

Posted by: jwb7605 at July 21, 2014 07:44 PM (ZALPg)

2 WSJ is going left wing.

Posted by: Ronster at July 21, 2014 07:45 PM (vPP2c)

3 or just demanded that all the large, evil corporations follow the EEOC, SEC, CPSC, EPA .... regulations or face jail time for officers and stockholders. I think the stinky left would vote with us.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 07:45 PM (TETYm)

4 Stop this taxation nonsense at once!

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 21, 2014 07:46 PM (jPT60)

5 Chamber of Commerce is our enemy and they own the Establishment.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 21, 2014 07:46 PM (KL49F)

6 You mean there's a risk that big companies like GE and Goldman Sachs could start supporting democrats? Huh.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (+lsX1)

7 WSJ has been a progtard tool for years...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (ASn1R)

8 Big Business wants immigration reform and higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools--policy priorities that drive the hard right into conniptions.

--The "reform" and the "standards" conflict.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (GW/jL)

9 What exactly is meant by that term...'crony capitalism'?

Has it ever been defined?

Because it was coined by the Left as a way to demonize Capitalism.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)

10 I think Big Business and the USCOC would find themselves paying for a lot of politicians whose constituents would want to gut them unless they completely kowtowed.

You like your chances better with "small government" Republicans or with Dems who have been in Big Labor' pocket for decades?

Posted by: Austin Danger Powers at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (oPQ6g)

11 WSJ: Beard for radical progerrorists and financial ass rapists.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 07:49 PM (ASn1R)

12 Those poor poor strawmen.

Let not their sacrifice be in vain!

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at July 21, 2014 07:49 PM (dMSj2)

13 Shorter WSJ: Why are you so mad? Just swallow it.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Troll What Trolls At Midnight at July 21, 2014 07:50 PM (dUGHS)

14 >>Well here's another question, then: What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business?

Good start. How about we get rid of all subsidies as well. No farms, no oil, no green energy bullshit.

The freer the market the better.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 07:51 PM (g1DWB)

15
WSJ isn't Big Government.

WSJ is HUGE All-Controlling Government.

If you watch the mediocre Canadian Sci-Fi series Continuum with the exceptionally sizzling canuckette Rachel Nichols, you know the future has a "Corporate Congress."

That's what the WSJ wants.

WSJ is pro-fascism, yet weirdly anti-regulation.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:51 PM (HY/zQ)

16 That's why Socialism is better!!
Because crony capitalism!

There wouldn't be any cronyism if we get rid of capitalism!!

Posted by: dumbass low-info millenial at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (1hodj)

17 "Well here's another question, then: What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business?"

Agreed. If they want to play hardball, let's play hardball. If the CoC thinks they can bully us into submission, let's see what happens when they see a bidding war break out between -two- parties over who can tax big businesses higher than the other.

Posted by: Crude at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (/IrCS)

18 Crony capitalism is where you use the power of government to enrich your friends, who, in turn, feed you campaign money, business insider tips, special opportunities on land purchases, and offer to start up businesses in your district where your voters can score high paying jobs if you can get the business a tax exemption

In other words, 'crony capitalism' is corruption in government.

Honest government is where all laws are administered equally without special exemptions for special friends of government. Where all laws apply equally to everyone even government officials. Where paying bribes to government officials for special favors gets both the bribe payer and the bribe taker a long prison sentence.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)

19 >>>>higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools


Read "common core is awesome you stupid idiots!"

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (z/Ubi)

20
Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)

21 >>Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

Degree.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (g1DWB)

22 I believe that some hostility toward big business and preferential treatment for those who are connected is the surest path to winning the presidency in 2016.

A candidate who espouses a return to a level playing field will attract a huge number of the so-called independents, and probably energize the base.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (QFxY5)

23
It's exactly because THIS type of bullshit the libertarian candidate in 2016 will spoil the election. People are sick of it and they want a third option.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (HY/zQ)

24 18...In other words, 'crony capitalism' is corruption in government.

Right! That's why socialism is way better.

Posted by: dumbass low-info millenial at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (1hodj)

25 Because it was coined by the Left as a way to demonize Capitalism.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)

Even if true, it's a real phrase that means something. It's ok to rail against it, because people understand that ____ capitalism != capitalism.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Re-branded at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (E8IHS)

26 What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides? What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?

Didn't big business and Wall Street throw a shit ton of cash at Obama? Don't they already send money both ways?

Posted by: Xander Crews at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (vlOFh)

27 So long as we're talking about Things We Each Could Do.

you guys could hold something for me while I move back and forth
thatd be cool

Posted by: navycopjoe at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (YS3vj)

28 Support me or I go Democrat!

Posted by: J. Immelt at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (GW/jL)

29 It's exactly because THIS type of bullshit the libertarian candidate in 2016 will spoil the election. People are sick of it and they want a third option.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (HY/zQ)

That's Perry's biggest weakness in 2016, imo. He's a bit too much of a cronyist. Not the worst kind, but he certainly gives favors to big companies to lure them into Texas.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Re-branded at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (E8IHS)

30 Dude needs an editor, - something or someone to tie together his non sequitur bullshit.

Posted by: Fritz at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (3wLHY)

31
Didn't big business and Wall Street throw a shit ton of cash at Obama? Don't they already send money both ways?

Posted by: Xander Crews at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (vlOFh)

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They buy anyone that can be bought, which is most everybody.

Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (UvR6d)

32 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.


Crony capitalism is where you use the power of government to enrich your friends, and yourself. You don't tell business how to operate, or what to make as long as you get your cut.

Fascism is where the government tells business what to make, and how to make it. Fascist government doesn't care if the business makes a profit, or if the business owner makes a profit, and if the business owner gets to be too much of a pest, you just replace him with someone else.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (NKlr4)

33 29 That's Perry's biggest weakness in 2016, imo

perry only have three problems
1. ummmmmmmmmm

Posted by: navycopjoe at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (YS3vj)

34 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)



Crony capitalism has two words in it, fascism only one.

You're welcome.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (dMSj2)

35 >>Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

The Nazis had snappier uniforms ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (TTOGv)

36
higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools


That one always bugs me, I mean besides the stupid populism of it - who is against high academic standards?

But the standards can be whatever you want them to be, make them Einsteinian, there has to be actual teachers there and actual students to understand them... you want higher achievement, that is a different ball game and will take a break of the mostly public school monopoly.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (cbUUP)

37 The single problem we face in this society is that too many people depend on government to provide them money. Fuck this lobbyist bastard and his hungry pockets.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (MMC8r)

38
Well, the point is that both crony capitalism and fascism is basically partnership with the government.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:59 PM (HY/zQ)

39 If you wingnuts would just mellow out, I might support a Republican.

Because at heart I'm all for a free marketplace with no government meddling whatsoever.

Posted by: W. Buffett at July 21, 2014 07:59 PM (GW/jL)

40 Hey, the Wall Street Journal is published for...Wall Street. What a surprise! There is an opportunity for conservatives who are willing to broaden their approach a bit and not be completely reflexive in their support of "capitalism." Adam Smith himself was not a supporter of capitalism, at least not in the sense that Big Business uses the term. Not in the sense of the smug summer cottage owners represented in this article. WSJ conservatism is just one kind of conservatism, and an ugly one at that. The false hubris on display in this article indicates that it may be on the decline. And that's not necessarily something to be lamented.

Posted by: Caliban at July 21, 2014 08:00 PM (2ArJQ)

41 you guys could hold something for me while I move back and forth
thatd be cool


Maybe if you ask Charlie Brown ... submissively, a'course ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (TTOGv)

42
For instance, Costco. They're eager to be obama's partners. It benefits both parties -- obama has control over the giant retailer, and Costco's competition goes away.


Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (HY/zQ)

43 fascism has funny hats and / or snazzy uniforms; crony capitalism just settles for having too much money and power

Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (8CdUx)

44 This article is just an ad for this guy and his lobbyist firm.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (MMC8r)

45 AtC, if the power grid is withstanding your attempts to crash it

This might take out the whole Upper Midwest

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vibrator_DeLight.JPG

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (aTXUx)

46 The WSJ pines for the good old days when Bob Michel was the Republican leader. Leader of a small minority that is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (cZmyL)

47 No Mr Buffett, you are all about winning. If we were all in the reeducation camps you would be playing contract bridge for buttons off people's shirts, just so you could have more shirt buttons than everyone else.

Then you would start trading shirt buttons for food biscuits.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (NKlr4)

48
er, corporate partnership with the govt

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (HY/zQ)

49 What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business?

What is your bidding, my master.

Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (QupBk)

50 What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides?

They already have.

What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?

Ditto.

Posted by: The Free Market Hat at July 21, 2014 08:03 PM (lN8KC)

51 Chamber of Slavers

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 21, 2014 08:03 PM (uhAkr)

52 Mussolini began as the editor of the Socialist Party newspaper in Italy


he made the jump to fascism.... tutti pronto. Because it wasn't much of a jump

Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (8CdUx)

53 CoC is small business - we currently besmirch them because they (the restaurants, construction firms, etc.) rely on illegal labor. The crony capitalists are big business.

(I don't hate EXIM, of all the crap in DC - the one place that fights our trade wars, is self -funded, and is small - catches heat. How about OPIC or ITA if you want some blood?)

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (TETYm)

54 I like the cut of that editorial staff's jib.

Very good... very good indeed.

Posted by: Benito Mussolini at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (lN8KC)

55 Capitalism is a meritocracy.
Or at least in it's purist form, it is.

You make a good product...people will choose to buy it.

Cronyism is a corruption of Capitalism.
It's paying off government officials to grant you...something...either a grant, or a contract, or something that gives you an edge over your competitors.

So...cronyism is the opposite of what capitalism is supposed to be.

The term 'Crony Capitalism' hurts the cause of capitalism, by making it sound like the cronyism is the fault of capitalism.

When in fact...there is even more cronyism in a socialistic form of government.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:06 PM (1hodj)

56 What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides? What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?

They've become huge fundraising machines for ANTI-business Democrats, so kind of wonder what kind of threat is "back off or we'll keep doing what pisses you off"

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (aTXUx)

57 It's getting interesting in this country. I mentioned Ralph Nader's book here a few weeks ago (probably not in an actual book thread) - Nader's decided that the Tea Party is not his enemy.

This link goes to al-Jazeera, but: http://tinyurl.com/pwaqyqz

Anyway if Nader could also get it through his head that the Israelis are not his enemy either, he might be worth listening to again.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (3kZUM)

58 Wow. And I spent all that effort to become an engineer because I thought it would be a good way to make a living. Well, I guess stupid people need to eat too. But do they really need to make so much more money than smart people?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (8MjqI)

59 What exactly is meant by that term...'crony capitalism'?

Has it ever been defined?

Because it was coined by the Left as a way to demonize Capitalism.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)


It is corporatism.

Corporatism is when labor, business, farmer, &c. is brought into the fold of the state for the aims and benefit of the state, and where said labor, business, farmer, &c. is benefited in turn by the state for their service.

Corporatism is a way of organizing the economic life of a country under the direction of the state. It is the state that creates a corporatist economy, not the free market.

Posted by: Benito Mussolini at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (lN8KC)

60 >>CoC is small business - we currently besmirch them because they (the restaurants, construction firms, etc.) rely on illegal labor. The crony capitalists are big business.

It's all a symptom of government having too much control. Every business, no matter what size, has to fight an every increasing monster of bureaucracy and rules from an ever increasing alphabet of agencies.

Shrink the size of government and you shrink their control and the need to lobby them for favors.

Pretty simple equation.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (g1DWB)

61 Pretty much sums up why I never watch Fox News anymore or read the WSJ.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (0LHZx)

62
Speaking of corporate d-bags and the people who suffer them...

Here in MA, NH, and ME there's a popular and growing supermarket chain Market Basket -- a family business.

Today in stores all over, shelves are bare. Why? Because the beloved CEO was ousted by his cousins. The employees are revolting! I've never seen anything like it. Employees are calling in sick; store managers are risking their jobs by openly demanding the return of "Artie."

It sucks for me because now I have to shop at the inferior Stop And Shop.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (HY/zQ)

63 In Crony Capitalism, man oppresses man.

In Socialism, it's the other way 'round.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (PEIly)

64 "... pro-business Democrats..."

I dare you to name any three. I don't think they exist.

And will only accept names of those who support business generally. A Democrat who routinely screws the productive sector, but favors grants and guaranteed subsidies for the solar company his brother owns or the factory in which he owns a 30% share, is NOT a pro-business Democrat.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (iIzG7)

65 Can you imagine what would happen if some megacorp...say, GE...went hard for the Dems?

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (MMC8r)

66 What if the Wall Street Journal jumped into bed with Obama and his corrupt billionaire donors?

Posted by: Cloward-Piven jumping through Alinsky's Overton Window at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (jYxCp)

67 Crony Capitalism: GM during the bailout. Fascism: GM after the bailout.

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (/kBoL)

68 Big Business loves crony capitalism because it protects it from the guy with the next big idea.

Regulate the fuck out of the guy in the garage tinkering with the better mouse trap and BIG MOUSE TRAP, Inc. will never have anything to worry about.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (0LHZx)

69 22
I believe that some hostility toward big business and preferential
treatment for those who are connected is the surest path to winning the
presidency in 2016.

A candidate who espouses a return to a level
playing field will attract a huge number of the so-called independents,
and probably energize the base.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Absolutely agree. People are tired of it.

Tell the WSJ that they should follow their hearts and do just what they suggest. It's time to call their bluff.

Posted by: pep at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (4nR9/)

70 Stop whining or no spice for you!

Posted by: Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (lN8KC)

71 "Well here's another question, then: What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business?"

That is still vote buying, influence peddling, just with a different bunch of cronies.

Government is supposed to be neutral, not bailing out the failures, or restricting the successes, or trying to make everything 'fair'.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (NKlr4)

72 Republic... a system of Government where the law is Supreme. Where all are equal before the Law.

Crony Capitalist. Those who use Government to change the rules for THEM, for economic gain... ie all are NOT equal before the Law... as they get exemptions and special deals.

Republican Party... supposed to be in favor of... and defenders of... the REPUBLIC.

GOPe, in favor of Crony Capitalism...


So we see the problem....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (84gbM)

73
Semantics are for a-holes.

Look, obama is a tyrant, right? But he really doesn't act like the typical tyrant, does he?

Well, the fascism we suffer today under obama is the same dealio -- fascism...with a smile. Plus, The People are oblivious to the frying pan they reside in.

Times are different today. People are Dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (HY/zQ)

74 64 "... pro-business Democrats..."

I dare you to name any three. I don't think they exist.

And will only accept names of those who support business generally. A Democrat who routinely screws the productive sector, but favors grants and guaranteed subsidies for the solar company his brother owns or the factory in which he owns a 30% share, is NOT a pro-business Democrat.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (iIzG7)

______________

There are lots of pro **BIG** Business Democrats. All of them except the extreme far left support Big Business.

On the other hand you will find ZERO Democrats who support small business.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (0LHZx)

75 he made the jump to fascism.... tutti pronto. Because it wasn't much of a jump


Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (8CdUx)
"Jump to"? I created the Fascist movement, the Fascist ideology, and the Fascist Party, and literally wrote the encyclopedia entry on Fascism (scurrilous rumors that Gentile was the author notwithstanding).

Posted by: Benito M. at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (FEKsH)

76 Shrink the size of government and you shrink their control and the need to lobby them for favors.



Pretty simple equation.





Posted by: JackStraw



Uhhhhhhh, let's not go overboard here.

Posted by: Morton's Steak House at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (4nR9/)

77 "The employees are revolting!"
You're telling me, they stink on ice!

Posted by: Louis XVI at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (dUGHS)

78
GM is a good example.

obama has personally chosen the last, what, 3 CEO's of GM?



Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (HY/zQ)

79 Corporatism: Goldman Sachs (not quite there yet, but they're trying!)

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (/kBoL)

80 That one always bugs me, I mean besides the stupid populism of it - who is against high academic standards?

For a start, people who aren't cruel.

It is cruelty to impose overly high standards upon people who cannot meet them. It might be callous and unthinking cruelty, like Bush's "No Child Left Behind"; or it might just be sadism, like when "literacy tests" were imposed on Jim Crow blacks and not so much on their equally-at-least-bumpkin redneck neighbors.

The educational system needs to understand that people don't start out with the same abilities and potential.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (3kZUM)

81 Under capitalism, man oppresses man. Under socialism, it's reversed.

Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (QupBk)

82 Apparently, this fuck thinks we still have too many choices in light bulbs.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (MMC8r)

83 WSJ, Rupert Murdoch, Shep Smith,

'Nuff said

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (HVff2)

84 67 Crony Capitalism: GM during the bailout. Fascism: GM after the bailout.

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (/kBoL)


Absolute proof of Crony Capitalism????


I paid more in Taxes last year as an independent contractor..... than General Electric.... as I have for a number of years...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (84gbM)

85 What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides? What would
happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge
fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing
pro-business Democrats?


Well, the corrupting influence of their money would go to the Dems, who are evil anyway, so no biggie. And Americans would finally have an alternative party to vote for.

I say let's do this.

Posted by: Methos at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (hO9ad)

86 Funny how I became "hard-right" by standing still.

"Could Democrats make a coalition of big business and labor work? "

Sure. Read Atlas Shrugged, and The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. They'll grant cheap loans, waivers, and tax credits to "too big to fail" firms, import cheap labor, and make effectively impractical to strike without Administration permission, or effectively impractical to resist a strike without Administration permission.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (HZLYB)

87 Look, obama is a tyrant, right? But he really doesn't act like the typical tyrant, does he?

Well, the fascism we suffer today under obama is the same dealio -- fascism...with a smile. Plus, The People are oblivious to the frying pan they reside in.

Times are different today. People are Dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (HY/zQ)


You wanted Galt's Gulch

You'll settle for Jackson's Whole

You'll get "Brave New World"

Posted by: Mustafa Mon at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (lN8KC)

88 SMOD...SMOD...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (PEIly)

89 There's a reason CEOs of GE, Facebook, Google, salesforce.com, etc are Democrats. I don't think they're all that into paying 90% personal income taxes.

What they are into is being BFF with the president who will make life a living hell for anyone who tries to challenge their supremacy.

It's not so much they like Democrats, they like the party that likes regulation. And it happens to be the Democrats. If Republicans came out tomorrow and said we'll regulate twice as much, they'd all be Republicans tomorrow as well.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (0LHZx)

90
If Ace were a puppy, this is how I imagine he would look:

http://goo.gl/TEKcT9

Posted by: pug at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (uT0LN)

91 Think back to the beginning of the movie Schindler's List, where Schindler's plan was to get business contracts based not on the proven quality of his products, but on party membership and making the right friends.

Crony capitalism. The Third Reich was big-time corporatist.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (iIzG7)

92 Pro business democrats are a myth because the modern democrat 'business' requires government subsidies to survive. Without the government money the business fails to make a profit, and usually the VIPs running the business loot the cash flow to the point where government subsidies can't keep the business in business.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (NKlr4)

93 59...It is corporatism.

Corporatism is when labor, business, farmer, c. is brought into the fold of the state for the aims and benefit of the state, and where said labor, business, farmer, c. is benefited in turn by the state for their service.

Corporatism is a way of organizing the economic life of a country under the direction of the state. It is the state that creates a corporatist economy, not the free market.

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No...what you've described here, TPH, is Statism and Socialism.

The Corporations are doing what they can to survive in the socialistic burdens that the State has created.

The same corruptions occur in totally socialist countries...as a way to survive, on the part of the Corporations.
And as a way for the corrupt governments to profit from their positions of power.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (1hodj)

94
Solyndra - crony capitalism

Hobby Lobby - not crony capitalism

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (8MjqI)

95 I love crony capitalism! And young boy-children!

Posted by: Harry Reid, Searchlight Strangler at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (7+fAS)

96 What if I quit compromising with the Republicans on every issue (Health Care, Taxes, Immigration, Nominations) and just used the power of my pen and phone to issue EOs? Appoint Czars? Make recess appointments? Stymie investigations into my administration's doings?

Posted by: Bronco Bammy at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (BAS5M)

97 Socialism: Fannie and Freddie. (And, as always, friends of the government make all the money. Such as Holder.)

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (/kBoL)

98 Ummmmm..... the funny thing is....Ahhhhhhh I know absolutely nothing about business.

Posted by: Prezit Urkel X at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (jucos)

99 Crony capitalism? Hey, it worked for me...for a while.

Posted by: Hitler's Brain in a Jar at July 21, 2014 08:17 PM (7+fAS)

100 I'd like to think the voters were smaht enough for a 3rd party candidate to 'spoil' the election. That degree of optimism is not within me. Not after so many Texas Republican fucktards voted for Cornyn.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 21, 2014 08:17 PM (jtgkZ)

101 What made America great was that any company, no matter how big, could go out of business if it failed to innovate and keep customers happy.

This doesn't happen in S. America or Europe or Asia. Today's 10 biggest companies in those areas are the same 10 biggest companies as 10 years ago or 50 years ago.

And it's happening in the US as well. Too big to fail = too big to give a fuck about innovation and meeting customer needs.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)

102 Crony Capitalism;

The Fed prints money out of thin air for large banks to borrow almost or at no interest which they pour into the stock market, REITs, MBS derivatives or Auto Loan derivatives. If they fail the taxpayer covers their losses but they keep the windfalls minus the kickbacks to politicians and bureaucrats


Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (aTXUx)

103 >>>I paid more in Taxes last year as an independent contractor..... than General Electric.... as I have for a number of years...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (84gbM)>>>

GE, along with Goldman Sachs, is really trying to take over the government - at least in regards to their own area. They are making the Corporatist play.

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (/kBoL)

104 Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (1hodj)

You want Corporatism? I give you... Ethanol Subsidies.

It raises food prices... it makes food into fuel that we already have... and it does nothing energy wise, but make cars run worse (less gas mileage, while no real energy net gain once you grow it, ship it, and process it).

But try to get rid of it? And suddenly Famers are all in on the Government subsidy band wagon...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (84gbM)

105 A Democrat Big Business Buyoff?

ObamaCare.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (MMC8r)

106 WTF r u talking bout?

Obama is very pro-business!






(Click "Like")

Posted by: M. Zuckerberg at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (GW/jL)

107 And it's happening in the US as well. Too big to fail = too big to give a fuck about innovation and meeting customer needs.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
********
Hellooooooooo......

Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)

108 The fundamental problem in regard to big business is that the left plays hardball and we don't.

So if you are a big time CEO, consider the matrix of results;

Support Democrats, Democrats Win: The economy does worse, but you get major favors out of the government, that accrued to YOUR company, not your competitors.

Support Democrats, Republicans Win:The economy does better, you get neither helped nor hurt by the government

Support Republicans, Republicans Win: The economy does better, you might get small favors out of the government.

Support Republicans, Democrats Win: The economy does worse. The government actively comes after you and aides your competitors.

It is no surprise that big business is slowly but surely trending left...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (5DM9u)

109 Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (aTXUx)

Meanwhile... the stockholders of the Fed Reserve Bank... which is a SECRET group....

Takes a 6% cut right off the top of Fed Res Profits...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (84gbM)

110 All this is telling me is that the r party is just as much my enemy as the d. No news there, known that for quite some time now. They keep on telling us where they stand, and it is not with the American people.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (8RZhE)

111 "... Obama is very pro-business!"

There's a world of difference between being pro-business and "giving us the business."

Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (iIzG7)

112 "We're gonna work up a Number 6A on 'em."

"Number 6A? I'm not familiar with that one."

"Thats where we go ridding into town, a whoopin everything within an inch of it's life. Except the boys of course."

"You spare the boys?"

"Hell No! We ass-rape the shit out of them at the Number 6A ball later that night!"

Posted by: Gay Mafia Crony Capitalist Taggert at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (PEIly)

113 104 Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (1hodj)

You want Corporatism? I give you... Ethanol Subsidies.

It raises food prices... it makes food into fuel that we already have... and it does nothing energy wise, but make cars run worse (less gas mileage, while no real energy net gain once you grow it, ship it, and process it).

But try to get rid of it? And suddenly Famers are all in on the Government subsidy band wagon...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (84gbM)

______________

I'll see your ethanol subsidies and raise you a military cut. Oh what's that? You want to cut military spending? FUCKING COMMIE!!!! Don't you know how many jobs depend on the military? FUCKING COMMIE!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (0LHZx)

114 Posted by: M. Zuckerberg at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (GW/jL)


You have a very punchable face.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (BAS5M)

115
When a man who is about to take over the federal govt tells you he's gonna eliminate the "bubbles and bursts" in the market and eliminate the "winners and losers" business environment, you'd be wise to believe him.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (HY/zQ)

116 >>>It is no surprise that big business is slowly but surely trending left...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (5DM9u)>>>

It's not so slow.

Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (/kBoL)

117 Wall Street absolutely LOVES the Fed's $2.5 Billion *A DAY* propping them up.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (MMC8r)

118 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
********
Hellooooooooo......
Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)

That's nothing or so says Fiat

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (HVff2)

119 104...You want Corporatism? I give you... Ethanol Subsidies.

All Government Subsidies are socialistic policies, Romeo13.

All of them.

It is taking from some people to give to other people.
That's socialism.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (1hodj)

120 >>>What made America great was that any company, no matter how big, could go out of business if it failed to innovate and keep customers happy.

Real freedom includes the freedom to crash and burn. And then try again. And again. And again.

In other news, AMC is showing all the Jurassic Park movies tonight. And that's cool.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (5hsHQ)

121 A lot of wall Streeters are ivy league. All leftie

Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (qdKd9)

122 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (0LHZx)

At least defense of the country is a Government function mandated by the Constitution...

Still don't see where Congress gets to tell me what I have to buy.... or what Producers have to make.

But that ship sailed a lonnnnnggg time ago.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (84gbM)

123 A little monopoly-busting might be in order.


...Oh, Hi, Comcast. Didn't see you standing there.

Posted by: HAL at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (s7QM/)

124 I will say this about Government Motors. They had a "Fuck You, we're GM" attitude in the 70's but for different reasons. They thought, then, that people had no where else to go. They were partly right.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (jucos)

125 107 And it's happening in the US as well. Too big to fail = too big to give a fuck about innovation and meeting customer needs.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
********
Hellooooooooo......
Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)

_______________

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone buys a GM. Put aside the fact that's it's run by the govt, what the fuck makes someone choose a Chevy over a Honda or Toyota? It's like saying hmmm, for the same price I can eat a nice steak or I can eat dog shit. I think I'll go with the dog shit.

Are Americans that fucking stupid to not realize they are buying pure junk?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (0LHZx)

126 20 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)



I think of capitalism as free market. I think of crony capitalism as the Libtards giving hand outs to their preferred businesses/ideology. Solyndra comes to mind.

Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (VwjGX)

127 >>There's a reason CEOs of GE, Facebook, Google, salesforce.com, etc are Democrats.

Of the four companies, 3 have been around less than 20 years. The fourth up until a decade or so ago was run by one of the most prominent Republicans in the country.

Business hasn't necessarily gone Democrat because they became in love with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over their corporate lives.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (g1DWB)

128 3 Jean,

I think theChamber of Commerce vastly overestimates the amount of control the DNC has overthe cimmunists they caucus with.

You want to jump CoC let's jump.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (/4AZU)

129

No, it's taking from Many People and giving it to a chosen few.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (HY/zQ)

130 Sure glad them film subsidies and tax breaks keep on coming!

Coming! SWIDT? HAHAHAH, you'll take it and like it...

Posted by: Gay Mafia Crony Capitalist Hollywood Freak at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (PEIly)

131 Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (1hodj)

More.... its making rules that you have to do something as a business...

Like make so much gas, with so much ethanol... whether your customers want it or not.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (84gbM)

132 What was the whole purpose of this editorial? Buy me a new Porsche or I'll take off with my boss?

They're worried that the GOPe is in danger of becoming irrelevant and they'll have no counterweight to the Dems who start talking about taxing and regulating THEM until their stock options go tits up or forces them to move everything overseas

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (aTXUx)

133 Business hasn't niecessarily gone Democrat because they became in love
with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over
their corporate lives.


And the money to fill their pockets.

A big government is a corrupt government.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (MMC8r)

134 121 A lot of wall Streeters are ivy league. All leftie
Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (qdKd9)

Don't knock Ivy League or the bovine Bloviator will go ape, errr mean cow shit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (HVff2)

135 132 What was the whole purpose of this editorial? Buy me a new Porsche or I'll take off with my boss?

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (aTXUx)


What editorial?

Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (VwjGX)

136 We pimp 0bama because he is the cutting edge Information Age President.

Posted by: Twatter at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (GW/jL)

137 Cui Bono? Follow the money beatches!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (PEIly)

138 It's not Crony Capitalism, so don't call it that. Call it what it is:

Crony Government.

Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)

139 Crony Government.

Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)


Exactly. payback for contribution to the Libtard agenda.

Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:29 PM (VwjGX)

140 Will no one rid them of these meddlesome preists?

Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (qdKd9)

141 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.


No overhead spent of snappy uniforms.

Posted by: DaveA at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (DL2i+)

142 127 >>There's a reason CEOs of GE, Facebook, Google, salesforce.com, etc are Democrats.

Of the four companies, 3 have been around less than 20 years. The fourth up until a decade or so ago was run by one of the most prominent Republicans in the country.

Business hasn't necessarily gone Democrat because they became in love with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over their corporate lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (g1DWB)

____________

Two totally unrelated stories:

#1

Salesforce.com has unveiled a multitenant cloud that will let government agencies deploy and share new social and mobile technologies.
The Government Cloud will include a dedicated, multitenant instance of Salesforce.com's cloud infrastructure compliant with Federal Information Security Management Act requirements for federal, state and local agencies. It also includes AppExchange for Government, a new application marketplace for the public sector where government agencies can find, try and deploy cloud apps that meet their needs.


#2

In the months before the election, the campaign typically received 10,000+ emails each day with stories, questions, or feedback for President Obama growing to almost 50,000 in the days following the Democratic convention. Staffers used Service Cloud to personalize messages to voters

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (0LHZx)

143 When in fact...there is even more cronyism in a socialistic form of government.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:06 PM (1hodj)

When in fact...there is only cronyism in a socialistic form of government.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (o3MSL)

144 Adam Smith's 'Wealth of Nations' is a great read if you can get past the archaic English. 'Way more better than Atlas Shrugged which is a bitch to read.


Smith's discussion of why surplus labor goes into the 'cartage trade' really hit me 'cuz it applied to me personally.

Friedman is easier to read, mostly.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:31 PM (NKlr4)

145 138 It's not Crony Capitalism, so don't call it that. Call it what it is:
Crony Government.

Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)

-----------

THIS!

Ding. Ding. Ding.
Someone finally gets it.

Cronyism is corruption. Period.
The fact that is happens in a country which is supposed to be embracing capitalism...doesn't mean that it is 'because of capitalism'.

The term 'Crony Capitalism' was coined by Leftists to demonize capitalism.

Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1hodj)

146 I *still* do not get why these guys are all-in for Common Core.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1UzRc)

147 It's all a fucking language game and we're losing:

BAD GOOD
crony capitalism Big Business
Illegal Undocumented
Handout Access

Blur the lines enough and you can get away with anything and tar your opponent for anything because the words are no longer recognizable and apply to reality according to whoever has the bigger megaphone.

The schools and the media. I repeat, the schools and the media.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (Y5I9o)

148 It is not Crony Capitalism. It's Soft Fascism.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (jucos)

149 A lot of the Wall Streeters and K Streeters are Ivy League cohabitants who share certain bizarre sexual and personal practices they learned in their secret societies and yacht club orgies... lets face it, nothing makes for a lifetime bond to share the goodies with each other like shoving legless skinks up each others assholes during devil worship orgies at Bif & Muffie's private dock...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (PEIly)

150 Honest government is where all laws are administered equally without special exemptions for special friends of government. Where all laws apply equally to everyone even government officials. Where paying bribes to government officials for special favors gets both the bribe payer and the bribe taker a long prison sentence.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)]/i]

Which leads us right back to: The most honest government, is the smallest government.

Because human nature.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (6S1sD)

151 138 It's not Crony Capitalism, so don't call it that. Call it what it is:

Crony Government.
Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)
---------------------------
^^THIS!!!!^^^^

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (Y5I9o)

152

Da fuq...

Barrel.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (6S1sD)

153 To Mr. Feehery (sp?) - who are you, again?

Posted by: BobinTx at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (JiUtI)

154 Crony Capitalism = Communism = Fascism

...it's when a bunch of elites at the top determine outcomes for everyone...what you call it doesn't matter.

Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (5Aom+)

155 ObamaPho'!

Speaking of which, Carlos Slim has his slimy ass in the news today ("We should all work just three days a week!"), and it begs the question: Why isn't he in Guadalajara exploiting all these workers that are the building blocks of the 21st Century Economy? If they're that fucking good, why isn't Mexico the engine of Tomorrow?

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (MMC8r)

156 148 It is not Crony Capitalism. It's Soft Fascism.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (jucos)


It is. Because half the population is helpless, naive and beyond stupid. Hardcore Fascism not required, in this case.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:36 PM (6S1sD)

157 ...it's when a bunch of elites at the top determine outcomes for everyone...what you call it doesn't matter.
Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (5Aom+)
---------------------------------------------------

It DOES matter because that's what influences the LIVs and the fashionable "swing" voters. [cf. "Hope" and "Change"]

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:36 PM (Y5I9o)

158 Common core sounds like a good idea, everyone can read and write, and do arithmetic.

Then the liberals write the rules, take over the language, and all of a sudden it's not just doing arithmetic it has to be done 'the right way' as defined by liberals. . and then schools start teaching morality which should be left to the churches, but churches are bad because that morality is bad.

The left's long march through the institutions was deliberate, methodical, and designed to get us to where we are now, and the conservatives never saw it coming. Like being murdered by a baloney slicer, one little sliver at a time.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)

159 To Mr. Feehery (sp?) - who are you, again?

He's the Concigliere.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (MMC8r)

160 It DOES matter because that's what influences the LIVs and the fashionable "swing" voters. [cf. "Hope" and "Change"]

...well, I should say then that it doesn't matter to someone who doesn't want to be a slave to it.

Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (5Aom+)

161 What the hell is "hard right"? Is it when you eat a burrito and you bite into your hand because it tastes so good?

Posted by: Illegal Alien at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (rCS6C)

162 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days
left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)



Fundamentally identical, but the Left threw the word around so much in the Bush years that fascism to most people now means conservative and/or insufficiently jubilant about homosexuals marrying.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (3a584)

163 ...being murdered by a baloney slicer, one little sliver at a time.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)-----------------Newsletter?

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (XtIgv)

164 I think theChamber of Commerce vastly overestimates the amount of control the DNC has overthe cimmunists they caucus with.



You want to jump CoC let's jump.

Posted by: sven10077

I think the CoC over estimates the power they have with small business men. A couple a leading questionnaires and a small fee for a few networking events do not a power base make. A real Conservative play would be to demand a review of those bullshit questions.

Raise a red flag like - end withholding or make health care a personal deduction and lets see how the CoC handles it.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (TETYm)

165 Drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip

Posted by: The Country's Patience at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM (jucos)

166 We interrupt our usual programming to bring you this important Livin La Vida Moron Alert!

http://tinyurl.com/mw46rkr

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM (PEIly)

167 6 You mean there's a risk that big companies like GE and Goldman Sachs could start supporting democrats? Huh.

And Google, and Big Hollywood, and Facebook too? Who would have thought?

And lets not forget all of Big Green! Boy oh boy, has Al Gore and all of his cronies cashed in on the government teat.

Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (53CCM)

168 158 Common core sounds like a good idea

Everything about LIbEraliSm sounds good...

....then comes flight test.

*prang*

They never seem to ring it out and push the envelope in college. Huh......

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (6S1sD)

169 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.


Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days

left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)


Shiny, stompy boots

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (TETYm)

170 My uniforms are FABULOUS!

Oh, and fuck PETA. Leather is a MUST!

Posted by: Gay Fascist at July 21, 2014 08:43 PM (PEIly)

171 158 Common core sounds like a good idea, everyone can read and write, and do arithmetic.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)
----------------------------------------------------

Common Core in and of itself isn't a problem. In fact, there are some ways it could be very good, since in many ways it gives teachers freer rein to do what needs to be done.

The problem is that most teachers are not that good. Worse, many are activist-minded cogs in the machine.

So what CC is doing is essentially freeing up the people who are in the system already to further disseminate their propaganda and blend it in with teaching materials.

This doesn't HAVE to happen; very little in CC that I've seen mandates this. But that's what will happen--Personnel is policy. Just like the IRS, the schools have already weaponized themselves; they don't need CC to do that. All it does is give them cover to implement.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:44 PM (Y5I9o)

172 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (0LHZx)

In my defense a used Chevy Aveo was all I could afford at the time. I looked.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:44 PM (HDwDg)

173 Shiny, stompy boots


Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM
------------------

Indeed. Smartly designed and well-pressed uniforms are really a must, amiright?

Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM (XtIgv)

174 This story confirms the wisdom of cancelling my WSJ subscription.

Posted by: Donna and V. at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM (+XMAD)

175 Anyone seen my wallet?

I lost it and it had $100,000,000 in it. I owe Obama.

Posted by: S. Spielberg at July 21, 2014 08:46 PM (GW/jL)

176 It'sOK tsrblke, we've all been there. Once I had to buy a ... oh god....

AMC Pacer.

WAGON!!!!!

My pills, my pills...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:46 PM (PEIly)

177 They used to talk about the military industrial complex


Ok



Let's talk about the academic media complex. That's what drives common core. Forcing people to buy your product, nd your ideology

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (zOTsN)

178 We interrupt our usual programming to bring you this important Livin La Vida Moron Alert!

http://tinyurl.com/mw46rkr

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM
---------------------------

Why steal new panties?

Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (XtIgv)

179 161 What the hell is "hard right"? Is it when you eat a burrito and you bite into your hand because it tastes so good?
Posted by: Illegal Alien at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (rCS6C)



Uh huh huh, huhuhuhuhuh.

Hard.

Huh huh huhuhuhuhuh.

Heeheeheeheeheehee.

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (GW/jL)

180 When in fact...there is only cronyism in a socialistic form of government.

Posted by: Hrothgar


At some point in the future, when we are herded by wise, eternal robots. The fourth law of robotics will be to give some love to guy who rubs the robots' feet and Asimov's decedents.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (TETYm)

181 I'm in Akin's old district, so it's a done deal here obviously, but I'm voting libertarian even if it is a pot platform hippie. It's an impotent gesture, but not much else you can do.

Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (UvR6d)

182 So, this gem was penned by a D.C. lobbyist for big business who is "a former spokesman for then-House Speaker Dennis Hastert."

Just the everyday ordinary shitweasellery and trough-lining of the Beltway, then. Nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 08:49 PM (noWW6)

183 Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (UvR6d)

Akin's district you say? I really need to throw a Missouri Moron Meetup.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:50 PM (HDwDg)

184 Why steal new panties?
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (XtIgv)

The mansion staff trade off every 60 minutes until Delicious!

Posted by: Gay Fascist at July 21, 2014 08:51 PM (PEIly)

185 They used to talk about the military industrial complex... Let's talk about the academic media complex.

You may be aware of this, but Eisenhower warned about both of these in his famous farewell address. But it's pretty rare to hear this quote from that speech:

"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 21, 2014 08:51 PM (J0IP0)

186
Akin's district you say? I really need to throw a Missouri Moron Meetup.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:50 PM (HDwDg)

------
I joined the Yahoo group a few weeks back just in case one gets lined up.

Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:52 PM (UvR6d)

187 Off topic - a couple of threads back there was a discussion of whether or not Sarah Silverman is hot. I would like to add a few comments about women you see on television. Women on TV are to beauty what NFL players are to the game of football. If you actually met one of those women in a typical social setting you would realize just how stunning they really are. People are put on television primarily for their looks - if you have a choice between two talented people - the better looking one goes on the air. Because of the constant flow of beauty on TV the audience develops a perspective distortion.

Here is an example of how that perspective distortion effects people. Twenty some years ago I was a bouncer at the topless bar where Anna Nicole Smith danced before she became famous. One of the waitresses decided to become a dancer and the other bouncers and I discussed her decision - we thought she was OK looking - but nothing special. A few days later after Judo practice we were in a mall in Houston having lunch and looking at the girls in the mall. There were perhaps 2000 people total in the main concourse of the mall having lunch. Suddenly the room quieted noticeably and every male head turned to look at this stunning beauty who had just walked in. I nudged my friend who had his back to the scene and said "Check her out." He said "Wow she is really fine." As she got closer we realized it was the waitress we had been discussing at the bar. When Anna Nicole Smith at her young best looks normal to you - you have lost perspective.

Posted by: An Observation at July 21, 2014 08:53 PM (ylhEn)

188 Yoo-hoo! Over here!

Posted by: Liberace at July 21, 2014 08:54 PM (PEIly)

189 Because of the constant flow of beauty on TV the audience develops a perspective distortion.

So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)

190 but make cars run worse

Hello!

Posted by: Try getting 87 octane from oil sands at July 21, 2014 08:56 PM (DL2i+)

191 Must be a new thread

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:56 PM (TETYm)

192 Because of the constant flow of beauty on TV the audience develops a perspective distortion.

It's also important to understand that presentation in movies and media is a controlled, and massaged, environment. Professional hair, makeup, trainers, wardrobe, lighting, and editing can make less-remarkable people standouts.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (MMC8r)

193 Yes --- the "hard right" wants lower standards for schools.


How did I miss that?


Fucking Lie-Bot.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (fsLdt)

194 There are a helluva lot more people who vote than there are K Street cronies trying to fleece them.

The sooner the GOP wises up, the better.

In other news, the sooner we get footage of Sasquatch tittyfucking Nessie...

Posted by: CAC at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (5fVHU)

195 189 Because of the constant flow of beauty on TV the audience develops a perspective distortion.

So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)

--That probably goes double for the Interwebz.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 08:58 PM (GW/jL)

196 Why steal new panties?

Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM
------------------

Word. Gotta love a lady with a full hamper.

Posted by: ...what're you lookin' at? at July 21, 2014 08:58 PM (hvewj)

197 What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides?

Big business is on our side? Really?

Toss aside the crony capitalism aspect of it. I didn't the political donation breakdown of large corporations has been favorable to Republicans in decades.

Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (V641o)

198 189 Because of the constant flow of beauty on TV the audience develops a perspective distortion.



So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)



--That probably goes double for the Interwebz.

Posted by: logprof

I'm pretty sure Aquinas would hold that the internet was taking humanity in reverse.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (TETYm)

199 Did the obligatory Atlas reference get made?

The aristocracy of pull.

We are there.

Posted by: tlc, real airline pendant at July 21, 2014 09:02 PM (iViyu)

200 I golf, shoot pool, and eat White House dinners with ordinary folks, not with rich Wall Street fat cats.

Posted by: Baraka at July 21, 2014 09:02 PM (GW/jL)

201 Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:52 PM (UvR6d)

I don't do the group much. Problems with my yahoo account.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (HDwDg)

202 Moonshine futures are looking better all the time.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (eAJwE)

203 197
Big business is on our side? Really?

Toss aside the crony capitalism aspect of it. I didn't the political donation breakdown of large corporations has been favorable to Republicans in decades.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (V641o)
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Most people think this due to half-recalled High School propaganda about the GOP in the 1920's leading to the crash. Think about it: The Dems are all Jimmy Stewart, and the GOP is Mr. Potter. That's the script most people have, and it's a hard narrative to break.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (Y5I9o)

204 Women on TV are to beauty what NFL players are to the game of football. If you actually met one of those women in a typical social setting you would realize just how stunning they really are.

Recently sat on a plane from Dallas to DC. My seatmate was Sean Lee of the Cowboys. He was stunning.

Or have I botched the analogy?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (9y18Y)

205 Moo Moo my wife has a 2005 Equinox we bought new and she still loves it. We also have a 76 GMC motorhome. I drive Fords. Some people like American cars.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:05 PM (JdEZJ)

206 Recently sat on a plane from Dallas to DC. My seatmate was Sean Lee of the Cowboys. He was stunning.

Or have I botched the analogy?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (9y18Y)

--Well, if it was the latter half of last season he was useless to his team.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:06 PM (GW/jL)

207 Moonshine futures are looking better all the time.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron

I'm long on copper tubing.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:06 PM (TETYm)

208 Most people think this due to half-recalled High School propaganda about
the GOP in the 1920's leading to the crash. Think about it: The Dems
are all Jimmy Stewart, and the GOP is Mr. Potter. That's the script
most people have, and it's a hard narrative to break.


Yeah, I know that's the standard narrative from the 1950s. I wouldn't have expected it from the Wall Street Journal, though...at least without a caveat. People who read that editorial are political junkies and are perfectly aware the donations from very many (and, I think, most) large corporations lean Dem.

Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:07 PM (V641o)

209 Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:06 PM (TETYm)

My Lab experience might pay off!

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:07 PM (HDwDg)

210 Richard Gere is short and looks like a rat


Norman mailer was short smelly and pearled as though he loved in a tree or middle earth somewhere


Brad Pitt died his hair, needs to bath and has acne scars


Kelly Rippa is flat as a board, has a massive head, and really needs a sammich


Most of the people you see on TV don't even really look like you think they do

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:08 PM (zOTsN)

211 201 Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:52 PM (UvR6d)

I don't do the group much. Problems with my yahoo account.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (HDwDg)

****

You too, huh. I was getting emails until a couple of weeks ago, when volume apparently went through the roof and they were seen as spam.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 09:08 PM (ojnk6)

212 Megyn Kelly needs to wrestle her guest Brooke Goldstein.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:09 PM (QUZnq)

213 People railing against the phrase "crony capitalism" here sort of sound like they're fight last century's battles, like arguing over the label "liberal" as it's used today.

Get over it guys. Just roll with it. You can smear Obama as one with impunity.

Posted by: HoboJerk at July 21, 2014 09:09 PM (GSl5X)

214 I think we might be at the bleeding edge of a massive political realignment in this country. The problem for conservatives is that ground zero appears to be on the right side of the spectrum, leaving the left free to work their evil essentially unopposed for a few election cycles.

Posted by: holygoat at July 21, 2014 09:10 PM (9FUuj)

215 People know what we mean when we call Obama a liberal. They don't think we are saying he's the second coming of Jefferson.

Posted by: HoboJerk at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (GSl5X)

216 Corporations should not pay taxes, period. It's just another way for govt to exert control. And look at the mountains of people, (e.g., accountants, lawyers) intelligent people, whose only purpose is to avoid or minimize taxes. Any taxes a business pays are passed on in higher prices for goods and services anyway. The consumers ay the "business" taxes. The "owners" of businesses, small and large, already pay taxes on the dividends an salaries they receive.

Can you imagine the tidal wave of innovation and productivity that would be released if business taxes were eliminated?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (8MjqI)

217 "This article is just an ad for this guy and his lobbyist firm"

And pushing the priorities of his firm's paying clients.

He says:

"Big Business wants immigration reform and higher academic standards"

On his firm's client list: "Immigration Voice" and "Strong American Schools".

Immigration Voice == H-1B visa mill

Strong American Schools == backed by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, proponents of Common Core

By the way, one of the founding partners of this firm, Ed Gillespie, is standing as the GOP candidate for Senate in Virginia against Warner.

Senators become lobbyists, lobbyists become Senators, the shitweasel revolving door of the Beltway never ceases to rotate.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (noWW6)

218 Off topic - a couple of threads back there was a discussion of whether or not Sarah Silverman is hot.

Let me also argue that disputes like that are you get into when you mix politics into other areas. Sarah Silverman wouldn't hesitate to make fun of the right. I can understand people not liking her. She's also starting to age.

Arguing that she isn't hot, though, puts you on the wavelength as liberals who try to argue that Dennis Miller was never funny or Charleton Heston wasn't that big of an actor. It's just not believable.

Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (V641o)

219 Threats from the fucking WSJ? Yeah well, fuck them.


Posted by: effit at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (knfPD)

220 Is this human rights person on Meghan going to a party later?


Leather mini and chrome stilettos

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (zOTsN)

221 Well shit, why not abandon all our principles and become Democrats? I mean, if we don't, donors may take their money elsewhere. The Politics of Fear. Nice gig, if you can get it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:12 PM (GrtrJ)

222 Evening Horde.

Who we pissing off?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (GEICT)

223 Anyone else get a chuckle out of the libtard sports media dissembling Tony Dungy's comments today?

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (GW/jL)

224 Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (zOTsN)

She has to balance the yin of Megyn wearing pants yang.

Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (OYOmf)

225 20
Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.



The marketing.

Posted by: Phinn at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (i5GO4)

226 How does the NRA win elections and dominate their sphere with a minimal political budget, How do the Pro-Lifers keep up the fight with so little cash, hmmmmm!

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (TETYm)

227 Sarah Silverman is just not hot.


She just isn't.

Your definition of hot needs to be recalibrated.

My standards aren't all that high.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (fsLdt)

228 18 Crony capitalism is where you use the power of government to enrich your friends, who, in turn, feed you campaign money, business insider tips, special opportunities on land purchases, and offer to start up businesses in your district where your voters can score high paying jobs if you can get the business a tax exemption

In other words, 'crony capitalism' is corruption in government.

Honest government is where all laws are administered equally without special exemptions for special friends of government. Where all laws apply equally to everyone even government officials. Where paying bribes to government officials for special favors gets both the bribe payer and the bribe taker a long prison sentence.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)


Actually the first part is the spoils system.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (oFCZn)

229 Let me also argue that disputes like that are you get into when you mix politics into other areas. Sarah Silverman wouldn't hesitate to make fun of the right. I can understand people not liking her. She's also starting to age.

Arguing that she isn't hot, though, puts you on the wavelength as liberals who try to argue that Dennis Miller was never funny or Charleton Heston wasn't that big of an actor. It's just not believable.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (V641o)

--Agreed.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (GW/jL)

230 146 I *still* do not get why these guys are all-in for Common Core.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1UzRc)

Easy. Follow the money. The big business folks pushing this shit are all heavily invested in developing all the new technology they want to use with it. Computer programs designed to test the kids on their skills daily and provide immediate feedback, monitoring equipment that measures student interest in a lesson based on body language, tracking students from one place to another, etc and so on. That fucked Bill Gates has funded all the development and promotion of the CC shit and he's invested in all the curriculum and tech on the other end. It's basically big business designing the education system in such a ways as to provide themselves constant demand for their products no services.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (qFpRI)

231 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 09:08 PM (ojnk6)

I had a yahoo account back in the day for a listserv. It's how I got my Gmail account back when you needed an invite.
So my Gmail became my yahoo backup, linking my Yahoo id to both.

Anyway, spam started appearing in folders that were for auto sorting the listserv stuff, which should have been impossible, I suspect yahoo was in on ot, especially when my account spammed my friends with no log on

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (HDwDg)

232 Yep, La Raza gets to call us Un-American now.

Weasel Zippers @weaselzippers 17m
La Raza President: "Un-American" Anti-Illegal Immigration Protesters "Cloaked Their Hatred In Patriotism" http://shar.es/NVhrr

Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (ZPrif)

233 Jean at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (TETYm)

Fanatical voting block, just a guess. Volunteer labor.

Did I win?

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (NKlr4)

234 Sarah Silverman was sorta hot at one point. She no longer is. She looks like a brunette Ann Coulter now.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:17 PM (ZPrif)

235 he shitweasel revolving door of the Beltway never ceases to rotate.

Nice catch.

And we all know who pays for the grease.

Posted by: DaveA at July 21, 2014 09:18 PM (DL2i+)

236 Testing new tablet

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:18 PM (dULJN)

237 Was I ever hot?

Posted by: Elaine Boozler at July 21, 2014 09:19 PM (GW/jL)

238 Taking a look at this:

http://tinyurl.com/msosqfr

and saying "nope, not hot" is like saying the Sun rises in the West in an astronomy class where you're still trying to argue the Sun actually circles around the Earth.

Just because a chick is not blond does not mean she isn't hot.

Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:19 PM (V641o)

239 How hard is it to understand that being pro-business is not the same as being pro-BIG BUSINESS.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)

240 Ah, the guy who says fuck America's laws calls us un-american.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (MMC8r)

241 "Follow the money. The big business folks pushing this shit are all heavily invested in developing all the new technology they want to use with it. ... That fucked Bill Gates has funded all the development and promotion of the CC shit and he's invested in all the curriculum and tech on the other end."

Yep. And Microsoft are out there telling K-12 technology officials up and down the country that in order to be "Common Core ready", they all need to implement Windows 8 immediately.

Note that, as usual, the bullshit is impeccably bipartisan. The Bush family are all in for Common Core, and a ton of the groundwork for CC was laid by George Dubya.

The fact that Neil Bush owns a digital courseware company that provides Common Core to schools? Left discreetly unmentioned at all times. You and I, as members of the serf class, are not expected to notice or understand the doings of Our Betters.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (noWW6)

242 239 How hard is it to understand that being pro-business is not the same as being pro-BIG BUSINESS.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)

___________

Just slightly less hard than understanding that anti-ILLEGAL immigration is different than anti-Iimmigration.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (0LHZx)

243 Back in the mid 80's, I met Brooke Shields at a convention.

She was at the height of "hot" at that time, or so we were told.

I was disappointed, she was a tall, average looking, wearing too much make-up.

Girls her age, from the neighborhood totally outclassed her.

I guess hype works.

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (v9TmF)

244 Yep, by the next generation it'll be unAmerican to oppose Socialism.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (ZPrif)

245 Since I dont know who Sara S is I looked her up. Unbiased opinion = 5.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:23 PM (JdEZJ)

246 How hard is it to understand that being pro-business is not the same as being pro-BIG BUSINESS.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)

Strike that first 'pro-business' with pro 'free market' and I'd agree with you.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:23 PM (NKlr4)

247 I *still* feel like a perv thinking Brooke Shields is hot and she's probably my age.


WTF.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (fsLdt)

248 We could really, really hose big business if we wanted.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (yh4lQ)

249 So not only is it un-American to want low taxes, it's also un-American to want American laws enforced.

Lovely.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (0LHZx)

250 And I like brunettes.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:25 PM (JdEZJ)

251 Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (V641o)

Silverman is that thin as a rail body type. Many people think that's attractive. It's not my preference, is that ok?

I mean i'd hit it, screen door, hurricane all that.

But if we're fantasizing, i'd Ike someone with curves.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:26 PM (HDwDg)

252 Since I dont know who Sara S is I looked her up. Unbiased opinion = 5.


Honestly.....I'd give her a 7.


Which isn't "hot". Plus the ugly inside lowers the score even more.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:26 PM (fsLdt)

253 We need to raise our voices, make ourselves citizens, sign up to vote and punish those who speak ill and criminalize children who come to our border

-Luis Guittierez



Awful lot of talk about 'punishing' folks since the fuckstick came into power.

Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:27 PM (OYOmf)

254 I met Tyra Banks at the height of her hotness, mid 90s and same thing...I was kind of disappointed. She was just a regular looking woman. But had I not known who she was, I would have just though, kinda hot looking tall chick.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:27 PM (0LHZx)

255 246 How hard is it to understand that being pro-business is not the same as being pro-BIG BUSINESS.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)

Strike that first 'pro-business' with pro 'free market' and I'd agree with you.


How hard is it to be against any govt subsidies of business what so ever? How about treat everybody the same, with no carve outs for crony capitalism.

Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 09:28 PM (53CCM)

256 I always thought Brooke Shields was a beauty

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)

257 I'd take a pass on the Hollywood types and go for the hotter athletes instead. I doubt Mia Hamm, Eugenie Bouchard, or Venus Williams would disappoint in person. Some of the more manly ones like the WNBA, OTOH . . .

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (GW/jL)

258 How dare you right-wingers call us unAmerican!

BTW, it's unAmerican to oppose Diversity and Affirmative Action.

It's also unAmerican to oppose Gay Marriage.

It's also unAmerican to oppose Women's Reproductive Health.

It's also unAmerican to oppose economic justice.

It's a new America. And there's a new group of unAmericans .. you.

Fundamental Transformation, baby!

Posted by: Socialist Party of America at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (ZPrif)

259 "... pro-business Democrats..."

-
I understand Harry Reid is willing to do business.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (Mogjf)

260 I met Tyra Banks at the height of her hotness, mid 90s and same
thing...I was kind of disappointed. She was just a regular looking
woman. But had I not known who she was, I would have just though, kinda
hot looking tall chick.


Remember Claudia Christian from Babylon 5?

Not terribly remarkable when you'd see her in person, but when someone took a picture, it was really strange. Everyone around her would look normal (aka, bad). Her face, however, would light up and she'd be perfect.

Photogenic bones structure, camera awareness, and proper makeup, I guess.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (MMC8r)

261 "and go for the hotter athletes instead."

Gina. Carano.

Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (dkesm)

262 256 I always thought Brooke Shields was a beauty


Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)


Perv.








I keed =)

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (fsLdt)

263 Fanatical voting block, just a guess. Volunteer labor.



Did I win?

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus

I was going for purpose and values, but I'd accept fanatics.

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (TETYm)

264 on the topic of women & desire & politics, this is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read (/Instapundit):

"My secret lust for right-wing women"

http://tinyurl.com/pszykxe

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (Y5I9o)

265 >>>257. Venus Williams-----

Over the grunting?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (HVff2)

266 Jack at July 21, 2014 09:28 PM (53CCM)

Ya, I'm with the guy...wait, let me look. . .

bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (8MjqI)

Ya, him, what he said.

Corporations, business doesn't pay taxes, they collect them.

The disruption to the economy would be chaos until it all shook out.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (NKlr4)

267 He actually, out of his own mouth, seems to equate "big business" with "crony capitalism."

It wouldn't be the first time someone on the WSJ backed something stupid. Most of them are also gung-ho on amnesty.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (QhD3Y)

268 262 256 I always thought Brooke Shields was a beauty


Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)


Perv.








I keed =)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (fsLdt)

Easy, bud.

Posted by: A. Agassi at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (GW/jL)

269 Since I dont know who Sara S is I looked her up. Unbiased opinion = 5.


Honestly.....I'd give her a 7.


Which isn't "hot". Plus the ugly inside lowers the score even more.

-
How thick are the lenses in my beer goggles?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (Mogjf)

270 Taking a look at this:

http://tinyurl.com/msosqfr



Sorry, but to me a woman has to be pretty to be "hot." Probably because my mother was pretty.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (8MjqI)

271 I sat next to the girl from the Bundy's on a plane. She was good looking, but the girls at the Jet Strip before the flight were hotter

Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:35 PM (TETYm)

272 Transparency is a bitch. I am glad we are calling out crony capitalism. Makes the movement authentic.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at July 21, 2014 09:35 PM (LnE5F)

273 Beer goggles would make Sarah Silverman a 9 at least.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (fsLdt)

274 It wouldn't be the first time someone on the WSJ backed something stupid. Most of them are also gung-ho on amnesty.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (QhD3Y)
yeah, i'm totally done with the wsj. shitweasels, every last one of 'em. dailymailonline is the only thing i trust anymore.

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (8lmkt)

275 265 >>>257. Venus Williams-----

Over the grunting?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (HVff2)

--I have never watched an entire tennis match in my life, and not a single set of hers. But in terms of looking good for the camera, she's a babe to me.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)

276 'How thick are the lenses in my beer goggles?'

That is a factor. Worth up to 5 points depending on thickness.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (JdEZJ)

277 >>>I met Tyra Banks at the height of her hotness, mid 90s and same thing...I was kind of disappointed. She was just a regular looking woman. But had I not known who she was, I would have just though, kinda hot looking tall chick.

Hot chicks are a dime a dozen. No matter who the flavor of the month is, Kate Upton, Christina Hendricks, Jessica Alba, just pick one, doesn't matter. Go into any high end bar in Miami, LA, NYC, DC or a dozen other big cities and I can guarantee you can find 5 hotter women.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (5hsHQ)

278 It's also un-American to speak English, pendejos.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:38 PM (Mogjf)

279 yeah, i'm totally done with the wsj. shitweasels, every last one of 'em. dailymailonline is the only thing i trust anymore.
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (8lmkt)

--Ever since they put Taranto behind a paywall a few weeks ago, I've had no cause to visit that site.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:38 PM (GW/jL)

280 Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)

Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)

281 "Hot chicks are a dime a dozen. No matter who the flavor of the month is, Kate Upton, Christina Hendricks, Jessica Alba, just pick one, doesn't matter"

Hell, Fort Collins has more hot women per square mile than most places I've lived.

Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (dkesm)

282 280 Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)

Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)

--The anger is part f the fun, right?

Hello, Katerina Witt!

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (GW/jL)

283 Silverman is an ugly soul.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (QKbPo)

284 >>>and go for the hotter athletes instead."
Gina. Carano.

Be right back. Something just popped up.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:41 PM (5hsHQ)

285 " Shiny, stompy boots


Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM
------------------

Indeed. Smartly designed and well-pressed uniforms are really a must, amiright?


Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM
"

And Jodhpurs. Must have.

Posted by: HAL at July 21, 2014 09:41 PM (s7QM/)

286 281 "Hot chicks are a dime a dozen. No matter who the flavor of the month is, Kate Upton, Christina Hendricks, Jessica Alba, just pick one, doesn't matter"

Hell, Fort Collins has more hot women per square mile than most places I've lived.
Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (dkesm)


--FSU in the '90s. Damn, so many tanned and taut asses wearing short-shorts with "FSU" on the bum jogging and walking around.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (GW/jL)

287 I can guarantee you can find 5 hotter women.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (5hsHQ)
well, I know you're being modest, DC, but I'm sure they seek you out. like moths to a flame, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (8lmkt)

288 I might postulate a theory, that in younger days, beer goggles were over-ridden
by beer nuts.

No one is ugly at closing time, to my memory's regret. Lotta good times, tho.

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (v9TmF)

289 she's a babe to me.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)
you wanna google some bikini pics before you go all in on that. and, if it still works for you, i ain't judgin'

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (8lmkt)

290 Men are really not that picky. God love em for it. They think most women are beautiful. Particularly the woman that loves them

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (zOTsN)

291 What my mother looked like:

http://tinyurl.com/or74h8j

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (8MjqI)

292 Dash 260

Marilyn Monroe said the same thing, she could be Norma Jean, or Marilyn, turn it on or off.

If one were ever to believe in extra sensory perception (PSI) that would be an example I'd believe, or another one is the ability of a confidence man to get inside your head, or a really good salesman. Even criminals sometimes have the power to beguile the innocent. Politicians do it all the time.

Is it a real psychic ability? Damnfino!

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (NKlr4)

293 And Jodhpurs. Must have.

-
And Sam Browne belts.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (Mogjf)

294 On the other hand, I never understood the 'pretty woman' thing about Julia 'Frogmouth' Roberts.

Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (MMC8r)

295 282 280 Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)

Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)

--The anger is part f the fun, right?

Hello, Katerina Witt!
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (GW/jL)

Oh yeah

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (HVff2)

296 I grew up with a girl who was one of the stars of a very famous sitcom. I talk with her often and with her younger sister almost every day.

The character she played was a tart. In real life, she's fairly shy and quiet. Married to one guy for years, two kids, and not outspoken at all.

I always thought the girl was pretty and still do. However, she was wasn't considered anything special in high school (as evidenced by the fact she hung out with me and people like me).

I still find it amusing to see her described as a super-hot wild women by people who project her TV personality on her real personality.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (oWhIO)

297 So, Rick Perry. Can I get a "hell, yeah?"

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (8lmkt)

298 So second look at Occupy Wall Street?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (dvRYt)

299 Sarah Silverman is ugly on the inside. There is no overcoming that.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (jucos)

300 294 On the other hand, I never understood the 'pretty woman' thing about Julia 'Frogmouth' Roberts.
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (MMC8r)

--Heh, my dad and Jonah Goldberg pretty much hit on that independently: why in the Ocean's 11 movies did the music stop an the action cut to slow-mo when Julia's character descended a staircase?


Not that hot, Fat Tire Lips

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:48 PM (GW/jL)

301 Hell Yeah!


Out presidenting the president

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:49 PM (zOTsN)

302 Julia Roberts -- Darby Shaw "Pelican Brief"

Or like James Garner as Maverick or Rockford.

Or Gene Hackman.

How much of the fictional character is the writer, the director, and the actor? We love the fictional character without ever knowing the actor.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:49 PM (NKlr4)

303 >>>well, I know you're being modest, DC, but I'm sure they seek you out. like moths to a flame, eh?

Hiya, Peaches! And yes, all the wimmenz love me. More so since Cougar locked me up for good. Odd, that.

Note to single morons: go buy a cheap gold or silver band at Target. Then go to the nearest bar. Then just relax and let the wimmenz do what they do.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (5hsHQ)

304 Did you guys see the drudge link about son of luapnor fellating silicon valley douchenozzles? gives me the fuckin' shivers, it does. and, no, i didn't click the link or read the article. not a fan of the luap family, in any guise. Rick Perry for President!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (8lmkt)

305 Not that hot, Fat Tire Lips----

The more to blow ya logprof

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (HVff2)

306 Julia Roberts is a chick thing.


No guys ever talk about Julia Roberts.


She was sexy in that Erin Brockovitch thing tho...

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:51 PM (fsLdt)

307 297 So, Rick Perry. Can I get a "hell, yeah?"
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (8lmkt)

Hell yeah I'd vote for him & send him some money

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:52 PM (HVff2)

308 305 Not that hot, Fat Tire Lips----

The more to blow ya logprof
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (HVff2)


--I'd prefer a natural set of DSL like Laurie Dhue's.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:52 PM (GW/jL)

309 "304 Did you guys see the drudge link about son of luapnor fellating silicon valley douchenozzles? gives me the fuckin' shivers, it does. and, no, i didn't click the link or read the article. not a fan of the luap family, in any guise. Rick Perry for President!!!!!"


Now that's HOT!

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (JdEZJ)

310 Go Perry

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (zOTsN)

311 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.

-
Fascism: The elite dress in uniforms.

Crony capitalism: The elite dress in suits that look like uniforms.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (Mogjf)

312 {{{{{{Thunderb}}}}}} let's make this happen

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (8lmkt)

313 290 Men are really not that picky. God love em for it. They think most women are beautiful. Particularly the woman that loves them
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (zOTsN)

****

And there ya have it, for 90 percent of men out there. Great comment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (ojnk6)

314 She was sexy in that Erin Brockovitch thing tho...

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:51 PM (fsLdt)


It was the push up bra and low cut tops....certainly not her face.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)

315 Big Club, we ain't in it

Just watched AZ Gubernatorial GOP Debate.

Gabe Malor is gonna lose his mind, cuz I liked Sndrew Thomas the best and he may do well! He is the former embattled Atty who with Sherif Joe traded accusations investigations lawsuits & fines vs Maricopa Cohnty Board of Supervisors and drove Gabe nuts then

But he is far and away best on immigration issue/ all aspects
He cited the CIS study showing all the job creation has find to legal & illegal immigrants
He is a loose cannon but IMO he is pointed in the right direction He recognizes AZ is make or break situation if border not secured and isnt afraid of a fight with the media He is virulently anti CommonCore.

Doug Ducey is my 2nd choice, current State Trez, talks tough on border but unlike Thimas doesn't want a fence Agsinst CommonCore promises no new taxes

Scott Smith former mayor of Mesa is a total Bush Rove Republican. He was proud to cite his work with head of EPA in DC to help alleviate a regulation. He wants to make deals He fully supports common core under its new name but its common core and he is a lets be sensible we can't do this of that or anything really on illegal aliens He kept talking about the children He also supported the increased sales tax

Christine Jones is a GoDaddy exec. with lots of managed talking points but is IMO a deal maker like Brewer do nothing would change there

Our current Sec State is running as well can't recall his name but he seems to be the type who would let himself get rolled in the deal making and was a weaker seeming version
of Ducey

A former CA GOP Congressman is an also ran

Posted by: ginaswo at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (b2DNm)

316 Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.


Fascism: mass produced stompy boots

Crony capitalism: hand made Italian tassle loafers



Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (8lmkt)

317 Easy. Follow the money. The big business folks pushing this shit are all heavily invested in developing all the new technology they want to use with it.

Yeah, I get why Gates and various others are pushing it. I don't get why this guy, who seems to be a generic enabler for rent-seeking, is so crazy for it.

Cui bono? Not many people, really.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (1UzRc)

318 It was the push up bra and low cut tops....certainly not her face.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)


ACTING!!!

Posted by: Teh Oscar Voters at July 21, 2014 09:55 PM (GW/jL)

319 One in a million girls? http://youtu.be/mQ_k_VG6Syc

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:56 PM (0AKks)

320 It was the push up bra and low cut tops....certainly not her face.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)


Yeah.....I knew it was the cleavage.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (fsLdt)

321 Why thank you Man With No Party


My lovely husband taught me that

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (zOTsN)

322 One in a million girls? http://youtu.be/mQ_k_VG6Syc


Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:56 PM (0AKks)


Heh. Saw those guys in concert here in Texas about 2006-2007. Still put on a hell of a show.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (GrtrJ)

323 breast reduction, breast enhancement
lip reduction , lip enhancement
ass reduction , ass enhancement

whoever created Mrs. Potatohead was a visionary.

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (v9TmF)

324 Heh. Saw those guys in concert here in Texas about 2006-2007. Still put on a hell of a show.

Cool.

I just figured it fit with the drift the thread had taken.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:59 PM (0AKks)

325 I saw Ass Enhancement open for Mr. Potatohead. Back in the 70s, shoulda paid better attention. Who knew?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:01 PM (8lmkt)

326 The 'Hard Right' is against higher academic standards? Who knew?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (1Mxs7)

327 323 breast reduction, breast enhancement
lip reduction , lip enhancement
ass reduction , ass enhancement

whoever created Mrs. Potatohead was a visionary.
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (v9TmF)


--Have you seen the cover of the latest Jennifer Lopez album? Well, I've only seen ads for it, which are splashed around the entrances to the local HMV stores. They're, uh, very distracting, airbrushing or no. What is pathetic, though, is that the woman has to be 46 or 47 or thereabouts an still tarting up for a night on the town. She's pretty naturally beautiful, but after multiple marriages has no offspring to pass along her genes an will probably die alone encased in botox and silicone.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (GW/jL)

328 Lopez is mother to twins who look like her ex husband and their father, mark Antony

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (zOTsN)

329 Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (GW/jL)

she's 44, has 2 children (with Skeletor), doesn't drink and, as far as I can tell, does everything right. ????

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)

330 The 'Hard Right' is against higher academic standards? Who knew?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (1Mxs7)


Right?

I noticed that too.



The economy has been upgraded from good to excellent comrades.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (fsLdt)

331 Which is unfortunate unless they outgrow it

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (zOTsN)

332 I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.


First!

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (JdEZJ)

333 What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?

They'd get more appointments to the Fed.

What do I win?

Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:07 PM (pZOPx)

334 Speaking of trying to pass genes


Bill Clinton has a mistress the secret service call "the energizer" as in battery operated bunny


I know you're shocked

Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:07 PM (zOTsN)

335 Sorry logprof -- not true.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (fsLdt)

336 BUT if we didn't spend BILLIONS on bailouts, subsidies, kickbacks, and no-bid contract, we might lose the MILLIONS they donate.

It's an investment... we're investing BILLIONS and getting back MILLIONS and we'd be lunatics to end this policy.

And he's right... so long as a Billion is less than a Million. If that isn't true, this entire argument seems absurd.

Posted by: gekkobear at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (k3qzM)

337 329 Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (GW/jL)

she's 44, has 2 children (with Skeletor), doesn't drink and, as far as I can tell, does everything right. ????
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)

--Heh, all those hours in checkout lines and I was never clued in that she had offspring?

Well, I for one am glad she became a gene donor.

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (GW/jL)

338 taxes? heh.

Our entire county runs on cash under the table.

Want a lawn mowed? cash.
Want a house built? cash.

F 'em.

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:09 PM (x3YFz)

339 What do I win?
Posted by: TexasDan
Well TexasDan, you win a year's supply of organic, sustainable gluten-free algae cakes and an extra month of funemployment. Prizes courtesy of the US Camber of Crony Capitalism and the federal Ministry of Plenty.

Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)

340 Higher academic standards as defined by Common Corpse.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (cZmyL)

341 Fuck off, I got work to do.

Posted by: Cyrus at July 21, 2014 10:12 PM (GW/jL)

342 *sigh*


So, the things I was supposed to remind my husband to get at Walmart this morning, I never remembered. Until two minutes ago, when he remembered and told me what they were.


And then he tested me. He asked me who the lead singer, keyboardist and bassist for Duran Duran were. I was right on all three.


Why, oh why can't that useless information about 80's music that is taking up space in my head be replaced by more useful crap?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:13 PM (GrtrJ)

343 Well TexasDan, you win a year's supply of organic, sustainable gluten-free algae cakes and an extra month of funemployment. Prizes courtesy of the US Camber of Crony Capitalism and the federal Ministry of Plenty.
Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)

I think this is the part where I gratefully accept my prize before it gets even worse.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (pZOPx)

344 Well TexasDan, you win a year's supply of organic, sustainable gluten-free algae cakes and an extra month of funemployment. Prizes courtesy of the US Camber of Crony Capitalism and the federal Ministry of Plenty.
Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)

I think this is the part where I gratefully accept my prize before it gets even worse.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (pZOPx)

345 I'm bored. We can haz early ONT? I promise we'll be good.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (5hsHQ)

346 What would happen Wouldn't it be great if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?
===================================

I fixed it. And I agree- it woukd be great. Drive out those progs, and bring Democrats back from the brink, even while returning GOP economic policy to Main Street.

Posted by: MTF at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (6um35)

347 'We have met the enemy and he is us.'
-Pogo
Truer words wuz never spoke.

Posted by: Erowmero at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (go5uR)

348 And then he tested me. He asked me who the lead singer, keyboardist and bassist for Duran Duran were. I was right on all three.



O_0

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (fsLdt)

349 Danger - Forget it..., uh..., bad choice of words.
Anyhoo....., my favorite trick is making a list, then leaving the list on the kitchen counter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (1Mxs7)

350 All over the intertubes the horde psychics are sensing a disturbance in the force. Frantically hitting F5 repeatedly trying to catch the elusive 'first'.

The horde lies in wait, watching the countdown clock ticking off the seconds. Refresh

Like supreme predators concealed in the underbrush near a dwindling water hole, refresh.

Knowing that this time they're gonna be first.

Refresh

The hamsters labor to spin the wheel..Refresh

ad revenue increments incrementally with every refresh

soon

refresh

soon

refresh

minutes away

refresh

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (NKlr4)

351 Is plasticized a word?

If not it should be.

Whoreywood should be sued for false advertising.

They should, also, set aside funds to buy their "stars" personality.

asshole enhancement

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (v9TmF)

352
302 Julia Roberts -- Darby Shaw "Pelican Brief"

Simpering victim from start to finish.

"The pelican is the hero of the story." Baaaaarrrrrf!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (Pk0vQ)

353 332 I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.


First!
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (JdEZJ)



Now that's funny, right there.

Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (53CCM)

354 Too late Joe I already called first.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (JdEZJ)

355 "I'm bored. We can haz early ONT?"


Fire off.


Posting from fresh-from-shop book on Firefox.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (3HAAY)

356 Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (1Mxs7)


Yeah, we text shopping lists, but we were discussing in bed last night before we went to sleep and I was too lazy to get up and text him. My bad.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (GrtrJ)

357 20
Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.


(Laying aside the smart part, and with apologies for the double post above)

Fascism requires an authoritative leader. Crony Capitalism, on the other hand, is so easy a community organizer can do it.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (pZOPx)

358 Is plasticized a word?

If not it should be.



It should be and is.


I always ask for plasticized paper in the supermarket.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (fsLdt)

359 Hmm. I was saving this for the ONT, but I'll post now. North America's tallest flagpole...., and probably largest flag, I do not know:
http://tinyurl.com/lj6k5el

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (1Mxs7)

360 We can haz early ONT? I promise we'll be good.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (5hsHQ)
no, because it's not, like, an hour ago. ont is late, as usual these days. it's like they want to give the cold shoulder to those of us suffering behind enemy lines on the left coast.

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (8lmkt)

361 I reckon you are about an 8 or a 9, maybe even a 9 and a half in 4 beers' time.


http://youtu.be/3Qg3rQfeZv4

Posted by: The Streets at July 21, 2014 10:19 PM (GW/jL)

362 HotGas QOTD not up yet

soon

refresh

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (NKlr4)

363 Hiya Peaches! *smooshes*

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (GrtrJ)

364 No ONT?

Posted by: EC at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (0WxOd)

365 i'ma go put out some trash and burn a parlie. if that doesn't do it, you'll have to summon willow.

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (8lmkt)

366 The tension builds.
Carly Simon sings 'anticipation'
refresh

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (NKlr4)

367 So, some WSJ guy beat off a conservative because Capitalism?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (PEIly)

368 are there a helluvalot more double posts lately ?

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (v9TmF)

369 Hector is why we can't have nice ONT.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:23 PM (PEIly)

370 Nood.








Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)

371 If ONT first was already called, then I'm calling shotgun.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (3a584)

372 Oh sorry.....


Thought I saw sumpin.....

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)

373 To be honest, ONT has been showing up as late as 10:00 or 10:30 CST lately, so.

Not a thing, just an observation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (3HAAY)

374 Everything is illusion

We are the matrix.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (NKlr4)

375 But seriously...


Ace told me it will be here in a minute.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (fsLdt)

376 The true agenda behind common core:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrZagvsP3o0

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (8MjqI)

377 false alarm- no new thread.

Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (v9TmF)

378 "
Nood."


Asshole.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (3HAAY)

379 There is no Nood, only Zhul...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:26 PM (PEIly)

380 Hey conservatard keyboard warriors, why don't you start your own lobbying firm and go fight yourselves?

Posted by: Hektor at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (GW/jL)

381 lyin' sack o' shits . . .

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (8lmkt)

382 * strokes chin*
*calculates range, windage on eleven *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (1Mxs7)

383 #twominutes

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (fsLdt)

384 Didn't see your aplogy, eleven. Apologies for the "asshole" part.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (3HAAY)

385 I like to run around in the nood.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (0AKks)

386 This WSJ thing is interesting ... is this a small indicator that BOTH parties are close to realigning ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (v3BJ5)

387 Could Democrats make a coalition of big business and labor work? How could the Republicans survive as a purely populist/libertarian political party?

Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (r4W5l)

388 #swearsies

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (fsLdt)

389 Could Democrats make a coalition of big business and
labor work? How could the Republicans survive as a purely
populist/libertarian political party?



Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (r4W5l)
Rick Perry says, I don't fuckin' think so.

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (8lmkt)

390 Hector can get fucked sideways by a flaming pineapple.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (GrtrJ)

391 Heh. Peaches said fellating, ass, and shits in the same thread...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)

392 That train has already left the station.

Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (r4W5l)

393 >>>Hector is why we can't have nice ONT.

He's the one that voluntarily and of his own free will performs fellatio on total strangers, no?

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (5hsHQ)

394 Peaches said fellating, ass, and shits in the same thread...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)
So? What's your fuckin' problem?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (8lmkt)

395 Heh, Peaches said fellating, ass, shits, and fucking in the same thread...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (PEIly)

396 "This WSJ thing is interesting ... is this a small indicator that BOTH parties are close to realigning ?"


Multi-party fascism. Controlling the strings of government/industrial power. The only concern among the is "who" is calling the shots.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (3HAAY)

397 Hector can get fucked sideways by a flaming pineapple.

That's pure poetry.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (0AKks)

398 393 >>>Hector is why we can't have nice ONT.

He's the one that voluntarily and of his own free will performs fellatio on total strangers, no?
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (5hsHQ)

I think you mean that Hector, who is a sucker of cock by choice, sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: T. Nuttall at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (GW/jL)

399 Could Democrats make a coalition of big business and
labor work?

I'm thinking the NEW Democrat party would be mostly hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate' democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL


Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)

400 Nood.



















Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)


never fake n00d.

you owe the horde 50. Push mfer!

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (x3YFz)

401 I'm thinking the NEW Democrat party would be mostly
hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate'
democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL







Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)
so, no changes?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (8lmkt)

402 395 Heh, Peaches said fellating, ass, shits, and fucking in the same thread...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (PEIly)


In other words, Monday.

Posted by: The Great Big Fires at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

403 Ok. I'm going to walk the cat, and I damn sure expect the ONT to be up when I get back.

Got it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (1Mxs7)

404 I'm thinking the NEW Democrat party would be mostly hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate' democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL


Maybe ... maybe not. I work around quite a few Union Tradesmen - being an Engineer and all. It's crazy, after a couple beers, how many of them absolutely HATE the current Democratic Party - but don't feel they have anywhere else to go.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (v3BJ5)

405 401 I'm thinking the NEW Democrat party would be mostly
hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate'
democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL







Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)
so, no changes?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (8lmkt)

Welcome to us!

Posted by: Europe at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (GW/jL)

406 >>>So? What's your fuckin' problem?

Rut-roh. Feisty peaches. We're at defcon 3, effective immediately. Take all necessary measures to protect yourselves.

For me, that involves hiding behind something heavy and covering my groin.

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (5hsHQ)

407 Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (x3YFz)

see? even pixy is sick of this shit . . .

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (8lmkt)

408 .......45.....46.....47.....48.....49...........................50.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (fsLdt)

409 Peaches said fellating, ass, and shits in the same thread...



Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)
So? What's your fuckin' problem?


Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (8lmkt)


shoot, I'm in love.

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (x3YFz)

410 "Hector can get fucked sideways by a flaming pineapple."

So, is HE sideways when he takes the flaming pineapple,or is the PINEAPPLE sideways when he gets it up his poop sqweeker?

Asking for a friend...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (PEIly)

411 "Hector can get fucked sideways by a flaming pineapple."


You forgot about the rusty barbed wire. Always, rusty barbed wire.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (3HAAY)

412 Howdy T9!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (GrtrJ)

413 .......45.....46.....47.....48.....49...........................50.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (fsLdt)


bullshit.

I didn't see it.

Do it again.

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (x3YFz)

414 You forgot about the rusty barbed wire. Always, rusty barbed wire.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (3HAAY)
Concertina. Saw 'em open for the Honey Badgers back in the 80s. I don't actually remember it, but I got the ticket stubs.

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (8lmkt)

415 Hektor would enjoy the barrel.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (8MjqI)

416 Howdy T9!


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (GrtrJ)


/hat tip and small bow to DG

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (x3YFz)

417 "walk the cat" means taking a dump.

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (fsLdt)

418 @177 Let's talk about the academic media complex. OK, let's:



Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our
industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution
during recent decades.



In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more
formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is
conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.



Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed
by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing
fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the
fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a
revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs
involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for
intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds
of new electronic computers.



The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal
employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.




Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we
should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that
public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological
elite.

--same President, same speech, very next line. How about that Ike.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (xq1UY)

419 Hold my spot while I go to the bathroom.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (JdEZJ)

420 Butch up, conservatives, and start your own lobbying groups to fight!

Posted by: The Great Fries at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (GW/jL)

421 So, is HE sideways when he takes the flaming pineapple,or is the PINEAPPLE sideways when he gets it up his poop sqweeker?


The pineapple is sideways.


You forgot about the rusty barbed wire. Always, rusty barbed wire.


You are absolutely correct. I amend.

Hector can get fucked sideways with a flaming pineapple wrapped in rusty barbed wire, followed by an isopropyl alcohol enema.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (GrtrJ)

422 So DC, you are sayin if I put my old plain wedding ring back on and went to the bars the wimmins would be trying to poach me?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)

423 "Rut-roh."


Now you gone and fucked up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (3HAAY)

424 I don't actually remember it, but I got the ticket stubs.

Chloroform's a hell of drug.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (0AKks)

425 know what 11? I'm gonna go push 50 just because I don't think you will. I'll push YOUR 50.

BRB.

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:38 PM (x3YFz)

426 Don't worry eleven, it's only Gay if you push back...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:39 PM (PEIly)

427 "push 50" means "walk the cat".

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:39 PM (fsLdt)

428 Not from T9 it don't.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (PEIly)

429 Tough break eleven.


Set your feet, try to relax, and if all else fails ... think of England.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (v3BJ5)

430 I'm back. Are we there yet?

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (JdEZJ)

431 Allahpundit has made his last post of the day QOTD is up

Allahpundit has left the 'net.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (NKlr4)

432 Anyways Horde, time to get ready to wind it down. See you before the sun rises.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (GrtrJ)

433 BRB.


Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:38 PM (x3YFz)
we got your 6, buddy. and, hey, anyone here remember when the ONT got posted at 7 PDT sharp. before all the loose shit came about?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:41 PM (8lmkt)

434 So DC, you are sayin if I put my old plain wedding ring back on and went to the bars the wimmins would be trying to poach me?
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)

*******

Ehhh, been there and done that. This attracts skanks that wanna play while on the road. No thank you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 10:41 PM (ojnk6)

435 Allahpundit has left the 'net.

Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (NKlr4)
probably out walking his cat

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (8lmkt)

436 Define 'skank' ...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (PEIly)

437 Anyways Horde, time to get ready to wind it down. See you before the sun rises.

No, time to wind it up: http://youtu.be/7J0QdXBY0wo

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (0AKks)

438
Ok. I'm going to walk the cat, and I damn sure expect the ONT to be up when I get back.


"Honest, miss, I was just walking my cat. I like to let him explore a little. I really don't know why he jumped up on your window sill. But I had to get him own. Sorry, it took a little longer than I expected."

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (8MjqI)

439 "
I'm back. Are we there yet?"

Nah. Maet must have got drunk after supper.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (3HAAY)

440 This thread --He dead.

Posted by: J. Conrad at July 21, 2014 10:43 PM (GW/jL)

441 Nah. Maet must have got drunk after supper.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (3HAAY)
why would anyone wait that long?

Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (8lmkt)

442 He Dead. He Man after his MI.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (PEIly)

443 Time to cue up the podcasts and settle in for the night.


'Night, y'all!

Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (GW/jL)

444 J. Conrad

He daid too.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:45 PM (JdEZJ)

445 so 11 now owes The Horde 150.

50 for the fake n00d
50 for faking the 50
and 50 more for the 50 I did for him.

PUSH!

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:45 PM (x3YFz)

446 "J. Conrad

He daid too."

And in the dark. The heart of it.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:46 PM (PEIly)

447 O/T Remember the guy who composed the spreadsheet detailing his 3 times in 7 weeks sex-life? And the wife posts it to reddit?

Dr. Helen Smith over at jpmedia.com weighs in.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2014 10:46 PM (V70Uh)

448 "why would anyone wait that long?"

I'm not judging. Just saying.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (3HAAY)

449 Alice Walton is a crony capitalist. Beating her up would mean getting some of it on me. Nope, not worth the risk.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (jtgkZ)

450 Yo, you know.

Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (QupBk)

451 ONT is up!

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (z3Qlv)

452 Hardball? Real hardball would be torches and pitchforks. For starters.

Posted by: tsj017 at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (EXsvS)

453 >>>434 So DC, you are sayin if I put my old plain wedding ring back on and went to the bars the wimmins would be trying to poach me?
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)

*******

Ehhh, been there and done that. This attracts skanks that wanna play while on the road. No thank you.


All depends on what you're looking for. If you want a wife, that play won't work. If you just need to get your pencil wet, it just might.

Just remember: don't be a dummy, come on her tummy

Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (5hsHQ)

454 There is no ONT, only Zuul!

Posted by: Dana Barrett at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (+1T7c)

455 I told you.


Damn..

Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (fsLdt)

456 Nood.


For real, yo.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (3HAAY)

457 Define 'skank' ...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (PEIly)

*****

Married chick, somewhere between 35 and 50, who is just looking at a one nighter away from hubby. Scores anywhere from a 4 to a 7 on the hotness scale, but quals as skank because married.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 10:52 PM (ojnk6)

458 she's 44, has 2 children (with Skeletor), doesn't drink and, as far as I can tell, does everything right. ????
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)



She hasn't done me yet.


I think the problem a lot of people have with her is that she is a publicity whore.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 21, 2014 10:55 PM (+Fae7)

459 "He thinks of himself as the bear-intimidating, wild, untamed, roving-escaping his den."

at this point: has this gone so far beyond mockable that it's not funny?

I mean the first few times you see Erkel look tough, you snicker, but after the 1,500th take, your brow starts to furrow.

I don't know 1 single American male that would be "intimidated" by Barack Obama.

Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 11:00 PM (x3YFz)

460 Being a small business owner sucks.

I get to do all the work with none of the crony.


Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 21, 2014 11:05 PM (IKYcF)

461 big business already funds the democratic party machine. the big biz cronies don't get it. the democratic party is very far to the left, and while the left will be happy to play along for a while, eventually big biz will find that they have provided the very rope from whence they shall hang. what this wsj moron is advocating is basically a partnership that is quite reminiscent of il duce: a joining of the power of the state with the corporate power. all the appearances of some private enterprise, but where in reality, only a select few are permitted to conduct business. is this really what we've come to?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at July 22, 2014 01:50 AM (2/oBD)

462 142 MooMoo
And we got "Orca."

Long time lurker here. I think MooMoo is basically ok.

Denounce me!

Posted by: Patrick Strei at July 22, 2014 06:10 AM (iVZfD)

463 I despise the term crony capitalism. Favoring a select few has nothing to do with capitalism and all to do with corruption.

Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2014 06:44 AM (T2V/1)

464
Crony Capitaism really worked out good for the Nazis!

Posted by: burt at July 22, 2014 09:07 AM (yp2Xd)

465
Mike Castle called to say he's shocked, just shocked.

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