Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-18-2014: Unamerican Gothic [OregonMuse]


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The Most Famous Painting In American History


Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to AoSHQ's stately and prestigious Sunday Morning Book Thread.

I'd like to digress for a moment to go on a rant that only tangentially relates to books. I found an article for the book thread that listed 25 books every man should read, which I'll be discussing shortly. But it's amusing to read the beta male metrosexuals whining in the article's comment section about the selection.

That includes this gem from some guy I'm going to refer to as "the fool", because, well, that's what he is. In one paragraph, he managed to encapsulate virtually every error of the progressive world view:

Hilariously narrow view of manhood. What a surprise! I just came on here to laugh, I already knew the books would be violent, close-minded, etc... I was raised in America by an American father who never read: Chuang Tzu, Montaigne, Voltaire, Schopenhauer, Neitzsche. They've read Mark Twain, but they don't understand it. Just like they don't understand Grant Wood's painting "American Gothic". They see two fine, upstanding, God-fearing Americans. Backbone of the country. But Grant Wood was a gay intellectual painter who saw the neighbors for what they are and have been throughout history: sour, mean, Nazi's. Just like Twain thought.

So, where to begin? First, it's clear that the fool has serious daddy issues. But let's ignore that. Second, while the fool no doubt considers conservatives as h8ers, it's obvious that he is full of hate himself. Let's ignore that, too. Leaving these aside, the one thing that stands out about this screed is that it is so brutally and mind-numbingly dull. Dull, dull, dull. And boring. The whole "transgressive" schtick is just so boring, boring beyond belief. There's not a hint of originality or insight anywhere within miles of it. It is so utterly predictable and parrot-like, it reminds me of that idiot troll erg, whom some of you remember, used to show up occasionally because he was smitten with ace and wanted attention from him (but that's another story). He used different socks, but you always knew it was erg because he would say the same stupid crap over and over again, and you always knew who it was. I'll bet that someone could write a rudimentary state machine in java to generate erg comments, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

But the fool's claim that Wood painted the couple as "sour, mean, Nazi's" is flat out wrong. Not that the fool would be at all interested in facts, but after about 5 seconds of Googling, I found a letter Wood wrote specifically stating American Gothic was not satire. The letter is worth a read. Wood spells out plainly what he was trying to do with American Gothic, and it's nothing like the fool thinks it is. He wanted what he thought was admirable about the rural couple, as well as their faults.

But you see, that's nuance. Progressives aren't so good at nuance.

Too bad the fool didn't know Grant Wood's work well enough to use one of his other paintings, namely Daughters of Revolution, that Wood has explicitly called satirical, which would have better served his purposes.

And as for Wood being a "gay intellectual painter", this is an almost empty claim. Yeah, it's believed these days that he was secretly homosexual, but so what? Even if it's true, it doesn't follow that he's the fool's ideological soul mate, liking what he likes and hating whom he hates. Sexual inclination doesn't determine political inclination.

But progressives have to keep saying this, because it's one verse of the "all gay, all the time" song that they like to sing to each other to reassure themselves of how cool and how transgressive they are.

But enough of this. Let's talk about books:


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Rush Limbaugh About To Devour A Small Child


More Manly Stuff

This "manly men doing manly things" bit seems to be a recurring theme on the book thread, but there's lots of material out there. For example, this is what I was referring to earlier: 25 Books Every Man Should Read. There are a lot of interesting books on this list, classic novels as well as modern, many of which were previously unknown to me, such as:

Rogue Male, by Geoffrey Household (1939)
Penned on the eve of war in Europe, Household's novel has an unnamed protagonist - a British sportsman with a penchant for danger - who goes on a hunt for the world's most dangerous game. Which, in this case, is not a Bengal tiger or man himself, but an unnamed European dictator. (Guess who.) Household's hero must use all of his hunter's cunning and British reserve to survive and bag his prize, especially once his cover is blown and the secret
police come knocking.

Warning: The Amazon blurb for this book contains some big spoilers, i.e what appear to be major plot points that you typically wouldn't discover until you were well into the book. I don't know why they did this, maybe they think that it's OK because it's an old book.

And:

Butcher's Crossing, by John Williams (1963)
John Williams is the greatest writer you’ve probably never heard of. The man wrote four slim works of fiction, and each could rightly be called a masterpiece, and Butcher’s Crossing may be the greatest of these. In the years following the Civil War, young Will Andrews decides to emulate the likes of Emerson and Muir, dropping out of Harvard and heading out to Kansas. Here he falls in with a frontier huckster who tells him of a near-mythological herd of buffalo in a hidden Colorado valley. Shockingly enough, they find the valley and the lost tribe of buffs, but that’s when shit starts to get real. Things get all Treasure of the Sierra Madre as they’re snowed in and forced to survive the elements.

One more, and then I'll shut up:

Wind, Sand and Stars, by Antoine de St. Exupery (1939)
The well-known author of The Little Prince also wrote one of the more moving meditations you’ll ever read on flying, freedom, friendship and survival. St. Exupery, a French aristocrat, pilot and national hero, was lost while flying over the Mediterranean in 1944, but it’s probably safe to say he died doing what he loved. An account in Wind, Sand and Stars describes he and his copilot going down near in the desert near Benghazi in 1935. They survived only by the barest chance, but our dauntless hero was back up in the air in no time.


Limbaugh Wins Book Award, Liberals Throw Tantrum

The bias in coverage of this in the LA Times is jaw-dropping. First, look at the photo. It's obvious they went out of their way to find the most unflattering photo of Limbaugh they could find to use with the article. Yes, they want you to know that Rush is a seething, hate-filled rage-monster:

In accepting the award, Limbaugh was typically combative (if somewhat more subtly than usual standards).

So just what did the seething, hate-filled rage-monster Limbaugh say?

“I love America. I wish everybody did,” he said. “I hope everybody will. It's one of the most fascinating stories in human history ... and it's a delight and it's an opportunity to try to share that story with young people so they can grow and learn to love and appreciate the country in which they're growing up and will someday run and lead and inherit.”

That's it? That's "combative"? Really? Jeez, what a bunch of pussies.

Then there's this:

Limbaugh said: “If your children have read 'Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims' or if they are reading 'Rush Revere and the First Patriots,' second book ... and if they would like to vote, simply go to RushLimbaugh.com and we've got a link that will take you right to the voting page.”

So Rush won because he stacked the deck. And by the way, it is important for you to know that the book is crappy:

At Kirkus Reviews, Limbaugh’s nomination for the award prompted editor Vicky Smith to take a new look at the Limbaugh books. She found poor production qualities and a notable lack of proofreading

So to recap: The seething, hate-filled rage-monster Rush Limbaugh wrote a crappy book that won an award because he rigged the voting for his crappy book, which incidentally is crappy.

The LA Times refers to this as "news."

The LA Times story is based on the NPR coverage which is a bit more even-handed. They even used a more neutral accompanying photo.


Low Tech

When it comes to writing, George R.R. Martin prefers the old ways:

Martin appeared on "Conan" on Tuesday night to talk about "Game of Thrones," his books and his writing habits. He explained that when it comes to fiction, he writes uses WordStar 4.0 on a desktop DOS machine. DOS came before Windows and all those Mac operating systems with cute names; WordStar 4.0 was released in 1987.
br<>"I actually like it, it does everything I want a word processing program to do and it doesn't do anything else," Martin said. "I don't want any help. I hate some of these modern systems where you type a lower case letter and it becomes a capital letter. I don't want a capital. If I wanted a capital, I would have typed a capital. I know how to work the shift key."

Heh. He probably uses the old ^KB ^KK ^KV commands to mark and move a block of text.


Ripped From the AoSHQ Sidebar!

In The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, author Nina Teicholz challenges the purported connection between fat and heart disease:

She shows that reducing fat, especially of the saturated kind, has been disastrous for health, and that neither olive oil nor fish oils have convincingly been shown to prevent disease. Her groundbreaking claim that more dietary fat leads to better health, wellness, and fitness is sure to spark controversy and conversation everywhere.

Me, I love carbs. Carbs are my downfall. Pasta, rice, bread, yeah, pile it on. I wish I had Mrs. Muse's dietary discipline. I'm threatening to go over 200 lbs. Meanwhile, Mrs. Muse has reduced her weight from a high of 177 back down to 155 lbs. She's done this by using the Weight Watcher's low-carb points system, and it works very well for her.

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I grew up in the SF Bay Area and I remember the Zodiac killer back in the late 60s, early 70s. I think the creepiest part, other than they never found the guy, was the ambiguity of it all. Every time there was an unsolved or spectacular murder, you'd think, "oh no, is this another Zodiac killing?" It was hard to know right then if it was Zodiac, or just some random murder. And then he'd go quiet for awhile, and then months later, a SF newspaper would publish yet another Zodiac letter. The murders took place in and around the Bay Area, but there are some probables that occurred other places in California.

And then one day the murders just stopped. And Zodiac was never heard from again.

So this guy thinks his father is, in fact, the Zodiac killer and has set forth the evidence in his just-released book, The Most Dangerous Animal of All.

Eh. Maybe, I guess. Others have claimed they are either related to, or personally know, the Zodiac killer. But at this point, 40 years later, God only knows.

And the movie Zodiac is actually pretty good.


What I'm Reading

Via BookBub, I picked up A Cast of Stones from Amazon. It came in under the "Religious and Inspirational" category, but it's actually a fantasy novel with a young-kid-has-to-grow-up-and-discover-his-destiny plot. Nothing we haven't seen before, but it's a fun page-turner. If you're a fan of "sword-and-sorcery" fantasy, I would recommend it. It's the first of a trilogy, and they're offering it for the low, low price of FREE, presumably to get you hooked on the story so you'll pay for the two sequels. It's also available on Google and also Barnes&Noble.


Books By Morons

Moron Rory e-mailed to let me know his new eBook is out, The 100 Most Influential People In American Soccer History. Rory is also the author of Free Kicks: A Novel About Pro Soccer In the US


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as I keep saying, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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Comments

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1 I was just suggesting to the wife this morning that we recreate American Gothic with an AR10 instead of a pitchfork. She got a chuckle out of that.

Heh.

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at May 18, 2014 10:58 AM (NnjE8)

2 "WordStar 4.0 on a desktop DOS machine"


Gah. Emacs or dd, that's what real men use.

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at May 18, 2014 11:00 AM (NnjE8)

3 Your assessment of the fool seems spot on.

Nice find on Wood's letter.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 18, 2014 11:00 AM (zDsvJ)

4 one thing about those gays that are so filled with hate, to the best of my recollection they have never advocated for laws banning straight sex

Posted by: righter at May 18, 2014 11:01 AM (M1EuU)

5 I enjoyed your rant Oregon Muse. You should rant more often.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 11:04 AM (oMKp3)

6 Yawn.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 18, 2014 11:04 AM (zDsvJ)

7 I'll bet that someone could write build a rudimentary state machine in java robot brain to
generate erg comments, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It would just have to be able to say "What?", "Huh?", and "Where's the tea?".


Fixt to include literary reference. This is the book thread, after all.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:06 AM (o78gS)

8 Grant Wood is America's greatest artist and an Iowan to boot. You guys are jelly.

Posted by: @koenigjojo at May 18, 2014 11:08 AM (2wawf)

9 Maybe a minor point, but isn't the couple depicted in American Gothic father and daughter?

Posted by: Jim at May 18, 2014 11:08 AM (fGQup)

10 Posted by: righter at May 18, 2014 11:01 AM (M1EuU)

Of course not, they just want to ban freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

That's all.

La di da.

La di da.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2014 11:08 AM (KBvAm)

11 Maybe a minor point, but isn't the couple depicted in American Gothic father and daughter?

Well, that's a good point, the trouble is, we don't know for sure. Wood has said different things on different occasions about who they are and so it is kind of ambiguous.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:11 AM (fTJ5O)

12 And as for Wood being a "gay intellectual painter", this is an almost empty claim. Yeah, it's believed these days that he was secretly homosexual, but so what?
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Hasn't the left decided everyone that has a positive historical reputation was gay?

Also it is interesting to see how the left has adopted the notion that one's sexual proclivities define them. This isn't new to the hack in question with article, but viewed from a larger perspective it is flat out weird.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2014 11:11 AM (M3hAT)

13 Seriously. Trolling a book thread.

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:11 AM (zOTsN)

14 The woman is Grant Wood's sister and the man is his dentist.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:12 AM (fTJ5O)

15 Nice rant, OM! Now reading the book part...

Posted by: baldilocks at May 18, 2014 11:12 AM (36Rjy)

16 The models he used, I mean.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:12 AM (fTJ5O)

17 2
"WordStar 4.0 on a desktop DOS machine"

Gah. Emacs or dd, that's what real men use.


Now, now, be nice. WordStar 4.0 *is* the awesomest version of WordStar, after all. Yeah, it's a pain in the butt to configure for a new terminal (you have to poke actual subroutines in to deal with the video attributes instead of just making the traditional tweaks to escape sequences), but undelete makes all the difference in the world. And the ability to plunk a new ruler line down whereever you want one is nice, too. Much nicer than clunky old WordStar 3.30.

WordStar 5 never worked on CP/M, so it's not important. Plus it abandoned the traditional close-to-text-file format, so it's dang near useless.

And the less said about WordStar 7, the better.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:12 AM (o78gS)

18 4 one thing about those gays that are so filled with hate, to the best of my recollection they have never advocated for laws banning straight sex
Posted by: righter at May 18, 2014 11:01 AM (M1EuU)


People who free base have never advocated for laws banning chewing gum, either. So what.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 18, 2014 11:12 AM (68O4K)

19 "Rouge Male" is just an excellent book and the precursor of just about every modern thriller book or movie.

Well written, moves along well, and not a glamorous bone in it's body. It's down and dirty and tries to be as realistic as it can.

Great stuff.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2014 11:13 AM (KBvAm)

20 Seriously. Trolling a book thread.

Heh. We had one a couple three weeks ago who threw a tantrum because somebody uttered a disparaging remark about Kurt Vonnegut. He was a real hoot.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:14 AM (fTJ5O)

21 How much of an agenda driven angry group think bot do you have to be to troll a book thread

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:15 AM (zOTsN)

22 I meant the troll was a hoot, not Kurt Vonnegut, although I freely allow that Mr. Vonnegut may very well have been, at some point in his life, a hoot.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:15 AM (fTJ5O)

23 Unseen, but implicit in the picture is the woman's right arm, clutching a torch, bare to the shoulder with a tattoo of a swastika dripping blood on her rippling Nazi biceps. All you have to do is imagine really intensely and you will see it. Context, and subtext people, it's there if you will only open your mind.

Oh, and she has fangs.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 18, 2014 11:16 AM (MKpBT)

24 I mean her left arm. And I made up the part about the fangs.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 18, 2014 11:16 AM (MKpBT)

25 I once got chewed up one side and down the other on a WordStar mailing list for mentioning that WordStar 4 was the awesomest version of WordStar and that I preferred it to all subsequent versions.

They claimed it was my fault that MicroPro went bankrupt, because I refused to upgrade.

But I'm not bitter. Not me. Nosirree. Not bitter at all.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:16 AM (o78gS)

26 Oops, I absentmindedly repeated the troll's comment in clear violation of AoSHQ regulations. I blame freebasing all that chewing gum or in my yute.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 18, 2014 11:17 AM (68O4K)

27 one thing about those gays that are so filled with hate, to the best of my recollection they have never advocated for laws banning straight sex

I seem to recall, from oh about two years ago, when militant homosexuals were pushing for "gay marriage" the argument that they would never, ever force anyone to participate in their ceremonies should they win - that they would be tolerant of the opposition.

Flash forward with "gay marriage" the hottest thing in legal circles and now we see the same militant homosexuals forcing people to service their ceremonies.

The next hurdle is of course forcing "gay marriage" on churches, but based on results, I certainly don't see an end to what the movement will demand if not stopped at some point.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2014 11:17 AM (M3hAT)

28
I enjoyed the entire Staff and Sword trilogy within the last month or so. Good fun.

Posted by: Tunafish at May 18, 2014 11:18 AM (26IhS)

29 Hopefully you guys didn't miss out, but the first 7 books of the Dresden Files were 1.99 on Kindle yesterday. The next book comes out in 9 days. Not that I'm counting or anything . . .

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at May 18, 2014 11:19 AM (CrJzY)

30 But I showed them. Yessirree Bob! I've got a personal variant of a CP/M emulator into which I've hacked a really nice terminal emulator, which allows me to keep running WordStar, even though they took FCB support out of Windows (those bastards!).

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:20 AM (o78gS)

31 Oh, and for manly books, let me suggest CS Lewis's Perelandra.

The main character is essentially an ordinary man of the modern sort and yet as a man he is expected to face existential horror and stand his ground whatever the cost.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2014 11:21 AM (M3hAT)

32 I saw this cool thing about a company in Boulder that creates these gorgeous book covers that will help you organize your library and look cool at the same time. It's called Juniper. Really cool

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:21 AM (zOTsN)

33 Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion:

Tesla, UFOs and Classified Aerospace Technology

By Paul A. LaViolette, Ph.D. (200

amazon.com #1 best seller
aerospace propulsion technology

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 18, 2014 11:21 AM (gmrH5)

34 Juniper books. They make custom book covers

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:22 AM (zOTsN)

35 WordStar?! That was for people who never tried WordPerfect. Until they Window'd* WP, it RULED.


*Bent over the nearest piece of furniture and driven home.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 18, 2014 11:24 AM (68O4K)

36 I finished "Our Troublesome Inheritance" by Nicholas Wade. It was disappointing. I think his conclusions will ultimately be shown to be correct, but the supporting arguments just weren't sufficiently strong in this work. That's probably a reflection of the state of the science, but still, I had hoped for more.

Also, I alluded in last week's thread to the DailyCaller story on Wade's apparent dismissal from the NYT a few days after his book came out. He has since denied that he was fired, and has, in fact, been largely retired from the Times for a couple of years. I don't know why I was so ready to believe this story.

Finally, I'm reading "Asia's Cauldron". It's a exposition of the looming conflicts in the South China Sea, some of which we're starting to see played out as we speak. There's lots of interesting history behind it, especially between China and Vietnam, but the upshot is that this battle may determine dominance in the entire Indo-Pacific region, and hence globally. Scary stuff, especially when you consider who's in charge of our interests.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2014 11:24 AM (4nR9/)

37 Not necessarily manly but very funny PGWodehouse. Fun reads, esp the Bertie and Jeeves stories

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:25 AM (zOTsN)

38 My favorite book of all time.

http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/sw_1911.pdf

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at May 18, 2014 11:26 AM (NnjE8)

39 Yay, book thread still up! I wanted to post a great book I read a couple weeks ago, "The Word Exchange" by Alena Graedon. It is set in the near future and is about the disappearance of the editor of the last print dictionary in America, a contagious word flu that makes people start speaking nonsense words without realizing it, an app for smartphone like devices that is a game where people string together random letters to form new words and then define them, a company that owns all online words and when someone wants s definition they are charged a couple cents a word, a creepy impedded smartphone like device, and how technology like smartphones affects memory as people live in the now.


Whew, that was a screenful. But it is a good book. The bad guys are not well developed but the stuff about words is the interesting bits anyway.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 11:27 AM (+0txR)

40 How much of an agenda driven angry group think bot do you have to be to troll a book thread

Well, to be fair, I had stepped out of my "book guy" persona (for lack of a better description) to do a political rant, which kind of makes me a legitimate target for the trolls.

I don't want to get into one of those Jon Stewart "clown nose on/clown nose off" things where I say something and then claim it's only the book thread.


Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:27 AM (fTJ5O)

41 Pshaw! You aren't hardcore unless you write from a naked DOS prompt.

Posted by: Todd Wiley at May 18, 2014 11:29 AM (WsECm)

42 pep 36.

http://tinyurl.com/pznm9xy

Drudge link from The West Australian

"Vietnam stifles new demonstrations..."

/teh irony, "communist" government clamoring for international investors: "We love international investment" whilst the indigenous workers evidently hate being exploited/overworked.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 18, 2014 11:29 AM (gmrH5)

43 FYI: Lifehacker's take on five best book recommendation sites -- goodreads, bookbub, librarything, reddit booksuggestions, olimenta

bit.ly/1o3KtdT

Posted by: doug at May 18, 2014 11:30 AM (QWvAN)

44 The Rush Limbaugh story is delicious, you can taste the tears.

Posted by: Madamex at May 18, 2014 11:30 AM (vaWdD)

45 Oh. Yeah. Books.

Finished Michener's Poland. Really enjoyed it, except for the middle bit which is all about minor nobles schmoozing each other in Vienna and the bit right after that, in which the newly liberated Poles try to build an echo of the society of minor nobles schmoozing each other, despite the fact that the world has moved on.

And what's my reward for putting up with reading all that schmoozing?

Then, with the abruptness of a forest fire, an event of indescribable complexity erupted, and life for everyone was severely modified.

Within eight months of having been engaged in brutal warfare against each other, General Pilsudski, semi-dictator of Poland now that Paderewski was gone, and Semen Petlura, hetmen of the Ukrainians, joined forces as brother generals to launch a full-scale war against Russia.


So while I was reading about minor nobles schmoozing each other, there was history going on in the background, but I missed it because Michener would really rather have been writing a book named "Vienna" instead of "Poland".

Fortunately, the NAZIs saved the day by marching in and rounding people up.



Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:31 AM (o78gS)

46 OM you made an observation about the lefts inability to keep their politics out of their critiques of art and literature. Not necessarily political. Fair game.


And then troll addresses your critique of leftist critics by decrying the criminalization of gay sex. Totally off topic

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:31 AM (zOTsN)

47 Manliness: rugged male and female pioneers made this country and most of us are wusses by comparison. Even a hundred years ago, most Americanhm homes did not have running water. Pump or carry every drop. Think about running to the outhouse this past winter. Off to market on foot or horseback or wagon. Medicine? Pain relief? Dentistry? How much work to cook a meal? Make bread?

Rugged individualists are measured differently today. Some are like Breitbart and Steyn. And there are those like Pat Tillman and his brothers and sisters. Thanks to them all

Posted by: Smilin' Jack at May 18, 2014 11:31 AM (Xzj0B)

48 @37 Wodehouse -- Bertie and Jeeves. Good stories. Made immortal when played by Fry and Laurie.

Check youtube dot com for Jeeves and Wooster

Posted by: doug at May 18, 2014 11:33 AM (QWvAN)

49 That is actually a very flattering photo NPR used for their story on Limbaugh.

Why wouldn't we hate the left, they make it so concise and clear that they hate us?

Posted by: Jocon307 at May 18, 2014 11:33 AM (7+F2i)

50 It's in the first line, Rush says he loves America. To lots of Americans, that's a combative and hateful thing to say.

As for GRRRRR Martin and his ancient word processor, the problem many of his fans have is not the machine on which he types, but the fact that he does so little of that there typing on the darned thing.

Hurry it up, George. You're going to die before your characters.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 11:34 AM (PEb5B)

51 36. Asian's Cauldron by Robert D. Kaplan

http://robertdkaplan.com/robert_d_kaplan_bio.htm

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 18, 2014 11:35 AM (gmrH5)

52 The painting never seemed ghey to me. (why must everything be about buttsecks to these people?)
Rush was talking about the backlash on Friday- I forget who, maybe the NYT, had pointed out that the voting didn't require a login, so it wasn't valid. Naturally Rush pointed out the hypocrisy in comparison to voter ID.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at May 18, 2014 11:36 AM (X3xYu)

53 47 Manliness: rugged male and female pioneers made this country and most of us are wusses by comparison. Even a hundred years ago, most Americanhm homes did not have running water. Pump or carry every drop. Think about running to the outhouse this past winter. Off to market on foot or horseback or wagon. Medicine? Pain relief? Dentistry? How much work to cook a meal? Make bread?

Rugged individualists are measured differently today. Some are like Breitbart and Steyn. And there are those like Pat Tillman and his brothers and sisters. Thanks to them all
Posted by: Smilin' Jack at May 18, 2014 11:31 AM (Xzj0B)

Acquaintance spent his first five years in KY without indoor plumbing. He was born in the 1960s.

Posted by: baldilocks at May 18, 2014 11:36 AM (36Rjy)

54 Reading James D. Hornfischer's "Ship of Ghosts". It's about the USS Houston, former flagship of the old Asiatic Fleet of the US Navy. What the crew of the Houston, and the other ships of the Asiatic Fleet, and later ABDA did to slow the advancing rampage of the Japanese in early 1942 is largely unknown, and forgotten if known.

Most of the ships and crews did not survive.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 11:36 AM (IZBji)

55 Well I like the looks of that pitchfork. I can imagine some places where it would be useful. The farmer no doubt used the pitchfork to help move manure. It could be used for the same purpose in an office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Lot of "stuff" to shovel there.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 18, 2014 11:36 AM (wdHk6)

56 the book rush wrote for kids was enjoyable....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 18, 2014 11:37 AM (u8GsB)

57 They are stung by Rush's quote "I wish everybody did". Cause they don't, but they dislike being unmasked

Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:38 AM (zOTsN)

58 Heh. He probably uses the old ^KB ^KK ^KV commands to mark and move a block of text.

And don't forget ^KN to turn on column mode. Try *that* in your fancy modern word processors!!!111!!!


Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:40 AM (o78gS)

59 I just want to say once again to the Horde thank you for buying so many copies of The Princess Who Caused Fear. All of you rock.

Though after inflicting Sluggor upon 17 of you, probably a very bad idea for me to ever attend a Moron meet-up.

Thanks.

Wordstar 4.0 and DOS? So his software is as fossilized as his worldviews...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2014 11:41 AM (PJwkN)

60 55. /wizard of id peasant protest, OAS today

...Given the brightest architectural minds of the day, yet they built the nation's capital in a coastal marsh out of necessity for convenience, and the least valuable real estate to donate for prestige/power.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 18, 2014 11:43 AM (gmrH5)

61 Started "American Spartan" by Ann Scott Tyson. Biography of Major Jim Grant and his unusual activities as a special forces commander in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Picked it up because it was *very* highly recommended by Steven Pressfield, as well as being blurbed by Petraeus.

Tyson is Grant's wife; met him on assignment for WaPo. She refers to him as "Jim" throughout the book, which strikes me odd in a biography. Still, it seems to be going in a good direction.

Not far enough to recommend it myself, but read Pressfield's blurb and decide for yourself.

Looking forward to Pressfield's newest -- "The Lion's Gate."

Posted by: doug at May 18, 2014 11:43 AM (QWvAN)

62 The painting never seemed ghey to me. (why must everything be about buttsecks to these people?)

I've noticed that the critics want to say two things, that is, that Grant Wood was a secret homosexual, a 'closeted' homosexual who didn't want anybody to know, but then he advertised his proclivities by stuffing his paintings so full of ghey dog-whistles for everyone to see, he might just as well as scrawled 'HI, I'M GRANT WOOD AND I AM A HOMOSEXUAL' across each of his them.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (fTJ5O)

63 AoSHQ War Novel:
For Whom The Black Diamond Tolls

Posted by: chemjeff at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (9GG/0)

64 Regarding Limbaugh's win, I'm sure the sweetest aspect is the exploding heads of liberals everywhere. The books are well received but I haven't read any of them.

Everyone seems to be jumping on the low-carb diet train, which does work but I wonder how long most people can stay the course, and what the fad to follow will be. Many people want to lose weight but say eating so few carbs isn't something they can handle for long.

Read Niven/Pournelle's book 'The Mote In God's Eye' for the first time in many years. I'm a fan of their work (Ringworld, Lucifer's Hammer, Inferno, Neutron Star, At The Core and so on) and really enjoyed re-reading this classic sci-fi tale of the accidental meeting of Man and an alien race.

I signed up for BookBub but have so many books and samples of books recommended here I don't know when there'll be time to check out what they have listed.

Funny rant against The Fool, more of them on the internet than fish in the sea.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (x+P8L)

65 Hey, chemjeff, did you ever determine why you were kicked out of Fapplebee's?

Posted by: Y-not at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (zDsvJ)

66 59
Wordstar 4.0 and DOS? So his software is as fossilized as his worldviews...

It only becomes obsolete when something better comes along. :-P

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (o78gS)

67 I think I also recommended on the book thread a few weeks ago a book called "Bomb: the Race to Build, and Steal, the World's Most Dangerous Weapon" by Steve Sheinkin. It is non fiction YA book about the making of the atomic bomb. It sourced really well and there is no retrospective political correctness in it, he wrote about it factually, yet it is really engaging to read about the Russian spies who were stealing the atomic bomb secrets as fast as American scientists were solving problems with the bomb design.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 11:44 AM (+0txR)

68 57 -

Good point. There is a significant amount of regret, sadness, and some frustration in acknowledging that many of our fellow Americans do not love their country.

Very little hatred though, and the intolerant left has a hard time dealing with their own hatred when it is met with such kindness and hope, as Rush has done with this quote.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 11:45 AM (PEb5B)

69 OregonMuse.....

Nice takedown of "the fool."

One of the things that frustrate me so much about the Left/Progressives is that they see people as monoliths.

Very few people are just one thing.

Although I suppose it is easier to demonize them if all one sees is "RACIST," or "NAZI," or "TEAPARTY."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2014 11:46 AM (QFxY5)

70 And don't forget ^KN to turn on column mode. Try *that* in your fancy modern word processors!!!111!!!

I have an old text editor, Vedit, that does the ^KN column mode thing. Dang handy at times. But I hear it's a b**ch for the developers to code.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:47 AM (fTJ5O)

71
To those of you who haven't read Endurance, please do so immediately.

It is an astounding book about a real life adventure that's simply awe inspiring. Shackleton even managed to save the whiskey. The whiskey came in handy when they had to lop off a few frostbitten, and gangrenous toes.

It is an amazing read, and can be finished in a single afternoon. If you get the E version, make sure the diagrams, charts, and photographs are included.

Posted by: Lab Grown Vaginas at May 18, 2014 11:47 AM (0IhFx)

72 Hurry it up, George. You're going to die before your characters.

That's just crazy talk. It'll never happen.

Posted by: Robert Jordan at May 18, 2014 11:52 AM (lr3d7)

73 Some of you know about my high opinion of Moby Dick, and most anything by Melville. How MD didn't make this list is beyond me. However, I would put Two Years Before the Mast not far behind. It's an easy read, and an incredible story, especially the bits describing the then unpopulated areas of Los Angeles and its environs.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2014 11:52 AM (4nR9/)

74 This week I finished "Packing for Mars" by Mary Roach about the space program, I didn't think it was as good as her other books.


I also read "Work" by Louisa May Alcott. After a slow start it was a mostly good story, though I find I have little patience for reading dialects in stories these days.


I am also working my way through "Iceland for Beginners" and dang Icelandic is a tough language to learn. I am going to be doing good to be able to say the basics on my trip.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 11:52 AM (+0txR)

75 Anachronda maybe. But I bet RR there still uses such because it gives him a cheap thrill. For his publishing house has to maintain a system to read that ossified code... he is making them dance to his whims ala a certain Appin Dungannon. And probably keeping someone in business making floppies.. or perhaps a Bernoulli drive.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2014 11:53 AM (PJwkN)

76
Read Niven/Pournelle's book 'The Mote In God's Eye' for the first time
in many years. I'm a fan of their work (Ringworld, Lucifer's Hammer,
Inferno, Neutron Star, At The Core and so on) and really enjoyed
re-reading this classic sci-fi tale of the accidental meeting of Man and
an alien race.


Lucifer's Hammer is one of the better disaster novels out there.

Posted by: Lab Grown Vaginas at May 18, 2014 11:54 AM (0IhFx)

77 Okay...one complaint about that list of books every man should read:

"Two Years Before The Mast" is a spectacular book, but the author, Richard Henry Dana, went on to become exactly the kind of heartless bastard of a captain that he railed against!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2014 11:55 AM (QFxY5)

78 @37 Wodehouse -- Bertie and Jeeves. Good stories. Made immortal when played by Fry and Laurie.

Check youtube dot com for Jeeves and Wooster

Posted by: doug at May 18, 2014 11:33 AM (QWvAN)


Wodehouse was a master of light comedy. My personal favorite set of characters is from the Blandings Castle stories, and the 1985 movie, Heavy Weather was a very faithful translation to the screen. To my surprise, it appears to be available in its entirety on YouTube. The recent British TV show, unfortunately, is not as good. The book that Wodehouse was working on when he died was another Blandings story.

Fry and Laurie's Jeeves and Wooster performances suffered from the screenplay writers thinking they could improve on Wodehouse, and from Russell Baker (the on-screen host) apparently never having read them but trying to make commentary as if he had. However, Fry Laurie themselves were excellent.

Apparently there was an earlier Jeeves Wooster dramatization starring Ian Carmichael and Dennis Price, that is forever lost because some idiot at the BBC decided to wipe the tapes to free up storage space at BBC central.

Posted by: CQD at May 18, 2014 11:55 AM (tcvYF)

79
"Two Years Before The Mast" is a spectacular
book, but the author, Richard Henry Dana, went on to become exactly the
kind of heartless bastard of a captain that he railed against!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Dude, that was, like, two years ago.

Posted by: Richard Henry Dana at May 18, 2014 11:57 AM (4nR9/)

80 Recently finished "Everyday Stalinism". A great read. Now working on a biography of Field Marshal Model. Still trying to slog through "Democracy in America". It's not easy because it lacks a great deal of concreteness and context. Adam Smith, a Scot and not a Frenchie, is very concrete and easy to read.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 18, 2014 11:58 AM (cwZTG)

81 Good point. There is a significant amount of regret, sadness, and some frustration in acknowledging that many of our fellow Americans do not love their country.

I remember back when Clinton was president, someone asked Hillary! if she loved America. Her response was 'I love what America can become.'

So in other words, no.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:59 AM (fTJ5O)

82 Some other manly books:

"Far Tortuga" by Peter Matthiessen

- a book about turtlers plying their trade in a rickety boat. The prose is stripped to the bone. Very artsy but a great book. I think it works better on the page than on Kindle so buy accordingly. Used hardback for $0.01

Two by John Calvin Batchelor:

"The Birth of the People's Republic of Antarctica"

- a group of misfits try to start up a People's Republic in Antartica. Grim hijinks ensue. Someone's read their Scandinavian mythology and Icelandic saga. The book has stuck with me for years

"American Falls"

- Dickensonian tale of spies during the Civil War. Well-researched. Great read. Ending falls short of greatness because JCB likes his characters a little too much to do what is necessary, but an excellent read nonetheless.

"Sword of Honor Trilogy" by Evelyn Waugh

-Comprising "Men at Arms", "Officers and Gentlemen" and "Unconditional Surrender"

A failure in life because he is bound by honor and honors his religion enlists as a 2nd chance to change his life through the adventure of WWII. He finds instead a long hard slog because he is bound by honor and his religion. Can he make any change in his life or the world that makes any difference at all?

This sounds grim as hell but in fact is frequently hilarious especially the first book "Men at Arms".

A deep, sincerely felt and unsentimental trilogy. Pure greatness.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2014 11:59 AM (KBvAm)

83 72 -

Interesting... I had to look up Jordan. He and GRR Martin were born less than a month apart, and from his pics you could say he sorta looks like a thinner, healthier GRR Martin.

I say again, hurry up, George.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 12:00 PM (PEb5B)

84 Muse.

Did you clear it with your wife before you posted her weight? I hope so or you may be sleeping on the couch. Women are a bit careful with that info.

BTW: Thank you for introducing me to Book Bub. I am still reading daily but spending 1/4 of the money I did for my nook at B&N.

Posted by: Barbara aka Bossy Barbara at May 18, 2014 12:01 PM (73mB5)

85 I think I should be on the list. Because I'm not, like, plastic, man. You're all phonies. I think I'll cry.

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at May 18, 2014 12:01 PM (4nR9/)

86 75
Anachronda maybe. But I bet RR there still uses such because it gives
him a cheap thrill. For his publishing house has to maintain a system to
read that ossified code...


It's a text file with the eight bit set on the last character of a word. Just PIP it with the [Z] option and you can paste it right into anything else.

Oh, wait; that's CP/M. You might have to write half a dozen lines of C to deal with it in Windows.

And probably keeping someone in business making
floppies.. or perhaps a Bernoulli drive.


My money's on Zip disks, as featured in the new Godzilla movie.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 12:06 PM (o78gS)

87 Now that I read his letter, when I look at the painting I can see she more resembles a daughter. Is the pitchfork the secret gay symbol?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 12:07 PM (+0txR)

88 Did you clear it with your wife before you posted her weight? I hope so or you may be sleeping on the couch. Women are a bit careful with that info

Ouch. I hadn't thought about this, but you're right. I probably should've checked first. She doesn't read this blog, anyway, so if I keep mum about it, maybe it'll be OK.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 12:07 PM (fTJ5O)

89 81 -

As I recall, our current First Lady has a similar quote attributed to her, from around the time of her husband's inauguration.

I'd like to know the origin of the sentiment, because I'm guessing it probably came from one of those sources with which we are familiar. Almost as if the same authors are doing the thinking for these two ladies.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 12:07 PM (PEb5B)

90 Posted by: Lab Grown Vaginas at May 18, 2014 11:47 AM (0IhFx)

Not long ago PBS had a 3 part series recreating Shackleton's Antarctic sea voyage to South Georgia Island, then his trek over the mountains to the whaling station. They had a radio to communicate with an escort vessel, doctors, the whole nine yards. Most of the recreators had to drop out due to health reasons.

Shackleton didn't lose a single man.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 12:08 PM (IZBji)

91 Well, to be fair, I had stepped out of my "book guy" persona (for lack of a better description) to do a political rant, which kind of makes me a legitimate target for the trolls.

I don't want to get into one of those Jon Stewart "clown nose on/clown nose off" things where I say something and then claim it's only the book thread.


Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:27 AM (fTJ5O)


-------

Your're a good egg,OM.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 18, 2014 12:11 PM (GmTxn)

92 I read that book by St. Exupery a number of years ago. Couple of things stayed with me. When he was stranded in the desert he started seeing things that weren't there. I can't recall if he was actually seeing mirages or was starting to get delirious from lack of food and water.


The other thing, iirc, he didn't believe in downdrafts. Pretty much stated that air does NOT go downwards, and anyone believing that air can force a plane down is just wrong.


The science seems to have gotten more settled since then...


Posted by: HH at May 18, 2014 12:12 PM (XXwdv)

93 And then troll addresses your critique of leftist critics by decrying the criminalization of gay sex. Totally off topic

Well, off-topic sniping is what trolls do. I dunno, I guess it just didn't bother me when he showed up, considering what I had said.

Now that Vonnegut troll from 2-3 weeks ago, that guy was a class 'A' turd, and he was stinking up the entire thread. So he deserved what he got.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 12:13 PM (fTJ5O)

94 But it's amusing to read the beta male metrosexuals whining in the article's comment section about the selection.

Isn't this, really, the story of Barack Obama?

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2014 12:14 PM (FcR7P)

95 I just finished reading "The Hiding Place" by Corrie ten Boom. Her sister was a saint: imagine thanking God for fleas in your building at Ravensbruck.

I think I started "Fatal Purity" last night but didn't get more than about two pages in. I hope it's good.

I am listening to some Ann Coulter in the car right now - nothing special, but I sure do wish Coulter would read her own books. Whoever reads them isn't bad; she's just not Coulter.

Bathroom book is a collection of short stories called "After" but it's mostly chicks who did the writing so it's been half annoying so far.

I think out of my library books that are due next week, I will pick "Beyond Good Intentions: A Journey Into the Realities of International Aid." I believe it's about some do-gooder's realization that helping often does more harm than good.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 18, 2014 12:14 PM (B7YN4)

96 I had a bowl of butter for breakfast this morning.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 18, 2014 12:15 PM (oFCZn)

97
I've seen the Wood painting many times - it hangs in the Art Institute of Chicago, and I've been looking at it since I was a boy. Satirical? Not so. The man in the painting is Wood's dentist; the woman is Wood's sister (though he lengthened her face to make her look more Gothic); the farmhouse in the background still stands, and, yes, it does have a gothic window. Wood, far from caricaturing his fellow Iowans, was celebrating them. Anyone even remotely interested in Wood and his work knows this; but as Jack London wrote, "There's no coming between a fool and his folly."

If you're ever near Cedar Rapids, Iowa, a visit to Grant Wood's studio at 1 Turner Alley is well worth your time. The Cedar Rapids Museum of Art exhibits quite a few paintings by Wood, as does the library on the campus of Coe College, both within walking distance of the studio.

As for books ... last week, I finished Margaret MacMillan's "Paris 1919", a history of the Versailles Conference. I found the book to be an outstanding read: well researched, clearly organized, lucidly written. The author displays great good sense on nearly every page; and if she has a political axe to grind, I'm damned if I can see it. If you want to understand why the world is so screwed up, MacMillan's book is a good place to start.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 18, 2014 12:16 PM (a5bF3)

98 I didn't do much reading this past week, but I did check out two books from the library that I will take with me to the hospital tomorrow. One is a theological work by Francis Chan entitled "Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God". The other is the latest thriller in the Prey series from John Sandford called Field of Prey. I've read every John Sandford book he's written . I can only recall one time when I've been somewhat disappointed.

I sure hope he hurries up and writes another Virgil Flowers book.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:16 PM (oMKp3)

99 Slightly OT- Has anyone read Upton Sinclair's 'The Brass Check'?

Or has it been covered here??

Posted by: Mr Wolf at May 18, 2014 12:17 PM (pCKXz)

100 Troll, troll, troll your boat gently down there stream full of enraged liberals, tip it over oh god please tip it over.

Posted by: Killerdog at May 18, 2014 12:18 PM (e5dzA)

101 You're going to the hospital, sister? Will you be in for a while? I will keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:20 PM (XyM/Y)

102 95 I just finished reading "The Hiding Place" by Corrie ten Boom. Her sister was a saint: imagine thanking God for fleas in your building at Ravensbruck.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 18, 2014 12:14 PM (B7YN4)



Isn't that a wonderful book?!?

I think I've heard of that Good Intentions book, too. Let me know what you think about it.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:20 PM (oMKp3)

103 Her response was 'I love what America can become.'

I have no memory of that.

Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2014 12:20 PM (FcR7P)

104 After finishing the excellent "The Stars Came Back" I jumped into the David Weber and John Ringo "Empire of Man" saga. So far so good. First set of bad guys encountered is an intergalactic empire that takes environmentalism to the extreme and makes it a religion. Love it.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 12:21 PM (7KPIw)

105 101 You're going to the hospital, sister? Will you be in for a while? I will keep you in prayer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:20 PM (XyM/Y)


Yes, my abdominal surgery finally got scheduled after the cardiologist cleared me on Friday. So hopefully they can slice and dice my adhesions Into submission, and I can get some relief from this pain. Thanks for your prayers, I welcome them.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:23 PM (oMKp3)

106 WordStar is freaking awesome. Now, we all know that I love me some Scrivener, oh yes, yes I do, but for actual word processing for work? I would love have WordStar or WordPerfect back.

I spent a good 45 minutes on Friday simply trying to get a document sent to us by someone else formatted correctly because Fuck You Word Fuck You Muchly decided that no no no no I really wanted highlighting there and numbered list here and arrrgggghhh.

If it wasn't 10 pages long, I would have just typed the damn thing over again.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at May 18, 2014 12:24 PM (dMSj2)

107 Driving a shit-ton this weekend, only available audio book was Tami Hoag's mystery/thriller Prior Bad Acts. I'm not really a fan of hers, but have only read a couple books. I Ike audio books I can listen to in 30 minute or so chunks and still follow the plot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 18, 2014 12:24 PM (ZshNr)

108 Who wants to help me pick a book for my book club? So far we've read a horrible, "edgy" religious book ("Lamb" by Christopher Moore) and a work of so-so sci-fi ("The Thunderbird Project" by Rebecca Harwell, suggested by author's brother who is in the book club). Club is half men and half women, all under 35, various levels of education. I never read Brideshead Revisited and want to suggest that or something in that vein...any ideas?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 18, 2014 12:25 PM (GmTxn)

109 The fool doesn't want to know about the real Grant Wood, because he doesn't want to be challenged only confirmed. Projection is the only psychological concept you need to understand lefties.

Posted by: 68W58 at May 18, 2014 12:25 PM (rYFmu)

110 Yes, my abdominal surgery finally got scheduled after the cardiologist cleared me on Friday. So hopefully they can slice and dice my adhesions Into submission, and I can get some relief from this pain. Thanks for your prayers, I welcome them.

Praying for you, sister.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 12:26 PM (fTJ5O)

111 Hey AlextheChick, go read the Morning thread. Vic linked someone who thinks the new Godzilla movie is Anti-Global Warming...

Talk about someone who's thoughts are constrained by the fetters of ideology...

Sorry the formatting gremlins almost got you. You collect their skulls?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (PJwkN)

112 Grant Wood painted some murals for the Iowa State Library.

http://www.lib.iastate.edu/info/6292

They're still there and look great. Unless the satire is extremely subtle, they're respectful portraits of hardworking people in a harsh world.

The thing that's a little stunning to me is that American Gothic is by far the most skillful painting Wood ever made. It's like they're by a different guy. Most of Wood's paintings are less realistic.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (1UzRc)

113
Pretty obvious "The Fool" likes his manly men, just not things regular dudes do and read and oh no the terrible violence. He's more of a ballet and ice dancing type rather than a boxing or hunting type.

Another book he might not like is anything by Ernie Pyle. Most of his books were collections of his newspaper columns as a war correspondent. You remember, real journalism. Most speak of real men (teenagers many) doing violent things to rid the world of people that would hang "The Fool".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (hJauc)

114 I sure hope he hurries up and writes another Virgil Flowers book.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:16 PM (oMKp)

Me too. You might enjoy Michael Connelly's series of books about Harry Bosch. He's an LAPD homicide detective who's a burr under the LAPDs Brass's saddle. Good who dunnits.

Best wishes for your surgery.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (IZBji)

115 Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 12:26 PM (fTJ5O)



Thank you so much, my friend.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (oMKp3)

116 Grant Wood was a gay intellectual painter who saw the neighbors for what they are and have been throughout history: sour, mean, Nazi's. Just like Twain thought..

Not only does the author probably has daddy issues, the figures in Grant wood's painting are not his neighbors. I never thought of the figures as sour and mean. The woman looks worried-maybe she's concerned about the farm and the man just looks serious. Serious does not equal mean.

Then there's this assumption that if Grant Wood were gay he would automatically have the same point of view as the author seems to-that any gays from 50 or 100 or 200 years ago would be all on board with gay marriage and progressive politics and hate "God fearing" backbone of the nation folks. Can't we just take people as individuals? The author might not like some the conservatives gays posting at "Gay Patriot" either

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:29 PM (XyM/Y)

117 Hey AlextheChick, go read the Morning thread. Vic linked someone who thinks the new Godzilla movie is Anti-Global Warming...

Talk about someone who's thoughts are constrained by the fetters of ideology...

Sorry the formatting gremlins almost got you. You collect their skulls?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2014 12:27 PM (PJwkN)



To be fair, the director of Godzilla is out there blathering that it's about Global Warming which may be the single worst execution of authorial intent I've ever seen.

I could not yell at the person who sent it because it's not their fault Word sucks.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at May 18, 2014 12:29 PM (dMSj2)

118 Thanks Ex-snipe. I'm always on the lookout for a good thriller series. I find I like to read books of a series, it lets me get to know and care about the main characters from book to book.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:30 PM (oMKp3)

119 106
WordStar is freaking awesome. Now, we all know that I love me some
Scrivener, oh yes, yes I do, but for actual word processing for work? I
would love have WordStar or WordPerfect back.


You never had to leave them behind, you know.


I spent a good 45 minutes on Friday simply trying to get a document
sent to us by someone else formatted correctly because Fuck You Word
Fuck You Muchly decided that no no no no I really wanted highlighting
there and numbered list here and arrrgggghhh.


My big argument with Word involves bulleted lists. I have no clue how it decides which bullet to use and whenever I try to fix it when it makes a mistake, it changes bullets all over the place.

I'm *almost* to the point of doing bulleted lists by hand. But for now, I just lie back, think of England, and allow Bill Gates to stomp all over my bulletted lists with hobnailed boots.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 12:30 PM (o78gS)

120 sour, mean, Nazi's in American Gothic

Go over to Shorpy.com and look at depression era photographs of people. Look at their faces, especially the migrants. They were bitterly clinging to existence living on hard labor and pennies.

Those comments referenced above are not only foolish, but also ignorant.

Posted by: Smith of the North at May 18, 2014 12:31 PM (8NBBM)

121 OT: since the other thread has been hijacked by the gun folks, I'll post it here. MoDo's column today says that Condoleeza Rice should have gone to the commencement address and begged for forgiveness. Yeah, Mo, I'm sure she'll be willing to listen to lectures from an accomplished polymath such as yourself. And then there's this: "Yet she sailed to success at a young age. She could stand toe-to-heel on substance with world leaders". I know what going toe-to-toe means, but I'm not sure what standing toe-to-heel is. Sounds unsavory, though. Don't these people have editors, or did they fire them all?

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2014 12:32 PM (4nR9/)

122 I vote for the director to be devoured by Godzilla....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2014 12:32 PM (PJwkN)

123 37 Not necessarily manly but very funny PGWodehouse. Fun reads, esp the Bertie and Jeeves stories
Posted by: Thunderb at May 18, 2014 11:25 AM (zOTsN)


There's a weekly podcast called The Classic Tales where the guy reads stories and sometimes novels and the recordings are free. They're all works in the public domain.

He's done a lot of Jeeves stories. After a few months, the old ones expire and then he sells them as an collection.

He's good, but it is kind of boring hearing the same voice do all these different stories. However, he really nails the Jeeves and Wooster stories and characters.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 12:32 PM (1UzRc)

124 112
The thing that's a little stunning to me is that American Gothic is
by far the most skillful painting Wood ever made. It's like they're by a
different guy. Most of Wood's paintings are less realistic.


There you go, microagressing us by pushing your foolish realonormatism!

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 12:32 PM (o78gS)

125 This is one of favorite books ever about faith and family and love-This woman hasn't written many novels by those she has are beautiful. I have known both men and women who appreciate it:


Gilead:

Gilead is set in Gilead, Iowa in 1956 with the minister, John Ames, facing death from heart disease. He has a young wife and son whom he loves deeply and decides to leave his son a family history. He tells of his grandfather, also named John Ames, a fire and brimstone preacher from back east who went to Kansas to fight for abolition and then went to fight in the Union Army during the Civil War. John Ames, his father, reacted strongly to his father's violence and became a pacifist preacher. The Ames household when all three generations lived together was one of an uneasy truce. As Ames realizes his time on earth is limited, a friend from earlier in his life who left in disgrace returns to visit. Ames' life had been a solitary one before the blessing of his cherished wife came late to him in life. As he watches his friend and wife begin to bond, he must decide whether to tell his wife of his friend's past. Marilynne Robinson (author of Housekeeping) has written a novel about fathers and sons, loneliness and love, faith and family and Gilead has received high praise. The Washington Post says Gilead is "so serenely beautiful, and written in a prose so gravely measured and thoughtful, that one feels touched with grace just to read it."

She also has a novel before that "Housekeeping" which is very good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:33 PM (XyM/Y)

126 My big argument with Word involves bulleted lists. I have no clue how it decides which bullet to use and whenever I try to fix it when it makes a mistake, it changes bullets all over the place.

I'm *almost* to the point of doing bulleted lists by hand. But for now, I just lie back, think of England, and allow Bill Gates to stomp all over my bulletted lists with hobnailed boots.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 12:30 PM (o78gS)



In WordPerfect I could do nested bulleted and numbered lists without jumping through hoop after hoop, not to mention reveal codes and thus see exactly what was fucking up the lists.

Progress always isn't.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at May 18, 2014 12:33 PM (dMSj2)

127 Adding my prayers for grammie winger that your surgery is successful and you get relief from your pain.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 12:34 PM (+0txR)

128 121
"Yet she sailed to
success at a young age. She could stand toe-to-heel on substance with
world leaders". I know what going toe-to-toe means, but I'm not sure
what standing toe-to-heel is.


Standing toe-to-heel is what you do when you're leading from behind.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 12:35 PM (o78gS)

129 112 -

For me, it's almost impossible not to associate Grant Wood with Thomas Hart Benton, and his murals in the Missouri State Capitol building.

Benton's work is much more lush, I think. Very sassy, if that's an accurate way to characterize paintings.

Here's a link, for those interested: http://benton.truman.edu/

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 12:36 PM (PEb5B)

130 I believe most if not all of Wodehouse's books are in the public domain. I downloaded a bunch of Jeeves and Wooster to my IPad for free . Some other works of his too.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:36 PM (oMKp3)

131 Thanks to the moron who recommended "Dissolution" by C. J. Sansom. I enjoyed reading this very good crime novel set in England in 1537 and I'm looking forward to reading the four books in the series.

I've said for many years now that "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing is the best book that I have ever read. A great, great story of survival and leadership well told.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 18, 2014 12:37 PM (khFRP)

132 Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 18, 2014 12:34 PM (+0txR)


Thanks, sweet girl.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:38 PM (oMKp3)

133
Prayers for grammie winger, kick some adhesion butt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2014 12:38 PM (hJauc)

134 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2014 12:38 PM (hJauc)


LOL I'll try!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 18, 2014 12:39 PM (oMKp3)

135 Those comments referenced above are not only foolish, but also ignorant

"foolish, but also ignorant", in other words, progressivism in a nutshell.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 12:42 PM (fTJ5O)

136 Then there's this assumption that if Grant Wood were gay he would automatically have the same point of view as the author seems to-that any gays from 50 or 100 or 200 years ago would be all on board with gay marriage and progressive politics and hate "God fearing" backbone of the nation folks.

Harvey Milk was against gay marriage. So were most activists pre-AIDS. In short, they saw it as "heteronormative". And they will again.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 12:43 PM (1UzRc)

137 After staring (and scoffing) at American Gothic for years in books, and studying Wood in Art College, I was completely unprepared for the actual piece when I was lucky enough to go to a Grant exhibit many years ago.

My (then to be) Wife and I stood in awe of this humble painting. The power, the detail, the vibrancy cannot be conveyed except in person. To say we were floored is an understatement. That the man also echoed futurism and the pop culture comics of the 60's in other works also goes unmentioned. He did pieces you'd never recognize as his. For instance a car racing along a Midwestern interstate, with the telephone poles bending to convey the speed. He was an absolute raving genius and one of the most gifted of all American Artists.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 18, 2014 12:43 PM (pgQxn)

138 grammie winger
Adhesions suck! Prayers are queued up and ready to go.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 12:43 PM (7KPIw)

139 I read 1632 last weekend on a rainy day. I fully enjoyed it, to the point that I went on Amazon to find some historical fiction about the 30 years war. I don't think I'm going to continue in the Ring of Fire alternate history universe though. All the open borders, and union rah-rah w/o the anchor of a bit of real history that the starting book has does not appeal to me.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 18, 2014 12:44 PM (ySLI9)

140 I'm reading Greek Warfare: Myths and Realities. The author takes a different view on the tactics, techniques and social aspects of warfare in ancient Greece than other historians. He's argued against a few of VDH's positions, for example, but he's professional about it and makes some good arguments.

Also reading Candide. After this I'll probably pick up another Dresden book or some cheap paperback from the used book store before I tackle Count of Monte Cristo

Posted by: Robert Jordan at May 18, 2014 12:44 PM (lr3d7)

141 I also feel affection for the Grant Photo because the man reminds me of some the men in the churches I serve. His seriousness make me think of the man we have now as treasurer, God bless us. He's been doing it for about 15 years. He's worked hard in the church and he loves his church. He got married there and had his kids baptized and married there,He loves his family and his faith and is a generous man. He'd always worked hard. He gets choked up talking about his "baby" sister who's dying of cancer in SC. Not a sour, mean Nazis at all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:45 PM (XyM/Y)

142 @114 Sandford's Flowers & Connelly' Bosch. Agree completely.

I get the feeling that Sandford kind of of enjoys letting loose with the Flowers character when he gets tired of Davenport.

This is somewhat analogous to Robert Crais letting loose with Joe Pike when he gets tired of Elvis Cole. (Highly recommended for Sandford or Connely fans.)

Posted by: doug at May 18, 2014 12:46 PM (QWvAN)

143 You don't know suffering until you've tried to compile a thirty-page Operations Order in Word from submissions by a half-dozen staff sections.

Posted by: Robert Jordan at May 18, 2014 12:47 PM (lr3d7)

144 Good luck to you, grammie. I'm thinking you might not want to read any 'Medical' mysteries as you recover.


Like 'Coma'.

Posted by: HH at May 18, 2014 12:47 PM (XXwdv)

145 " Serious does not equal mean."

This is something liberals simply do not understand. Their entire world view is basically that anyone who thinks logically about a situation is "mean."

Daddy didn't say "I love you" enough.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2014 12:48 PM (ejehg)

146 I've always thought Mark Twain had rather a broad view of different types of people anyway.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:48 PM (XyM/Y)

147 Posted by: Smith of the North at May 18, 2014 12:31 PM (8NBBM)

Good point about the depression era photos. Would the author assume that the famous picture of the "Dustbowl" woman showed a sour and mean neighbor

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 12:54 PM (XyM/Y)

148 Everytime I see the painting "American Gothic" I see the same thing I see in photos from the 1800s and early 1900s of the same sort of people. Stoic, hard working, do what you have to do to survive, and a bit of sadness.

Describing "the fool" as a fool is too kind.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 12:55 PM (IZBji)

149 I've always thought Mark Twain had rather a broad view of different types of people anyway.

Twain was a misanthrope.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 12:56 PM (1UzRc)

150
What I find is creepy that there are so many guys out there who think their father is the Zodiac Killer. Sheesh! Or, the Black Dahlia Killer. And they always have a book to sell... What nonsense.

Posted by: Sherlock Pug at May 18, 2014 12:57 PM (QQ/fJ)

151 Greetings:

I'm in the process of reading Robert Gates' "Duty: A Memoir of a Secretary at War" and would recommend it especially for those thinking about a career in what's left of our country's officer corps(e). It struck me as what today's military refers to as an IPB, Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield.

It is also a good history for those interested in the management of extremely large organizations.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 18, 2014 12:57 PM (evgyj)

152 149 -

Nonsense.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 01:01 PM (PEb5B)

153 Boys and girls, this is a teensy bit off-topic, but I am going to my first RCIA meeting today so prayers for blessings would be most appreciated.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 18, 2014 01:02 PM (B7YN4)

154 Twain was quite bitter after the death of his wife and daughter, but I don't think he presented just one view of people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:03 PM (XyM/Y)

155 I remember back when Clinton was president, someone asked Hillary! if she loved America. Her response was 'I love what America can become.'

So in other words, no.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:59 AM (fTJ5O)


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That's a very good quote to remember if/when she runs for prez. She's as evil or more evil than Dear Leader.

Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2014 01:03 PM (cb1pm)

156 Prayers and blessings coming your way, Tonestaple.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:04 PM (XyM/Y)

157 The fact is, the modern world has a difficult time with Twain, and especially the modern left has been trying for years to fit him into one hole or another.

He was a complicated man, and a genius writer. Unfortunately for him, he had the misfortune of chronicling the latter years of his life, and the deaths of the people he loved the most, giving many the mistaken impression that he was more miserable than he was.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 01:05 PM (PEb5B)

158 I don't know if it was Tammy Bruce, but some conservative woman recently said, "I'd like a woman President if she loved America more than her self."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:05 PM (XyM/Y)

159 one thing about those gays that are so filled with hate, to the best of my recollection they have never advocated for laws banning straight sex

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Did you guys see our embassies across the world donned out in their gay apparel for pervert day?

http://tinyurl.com/qfjb44j

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:06 PM (Mogjf)

160 Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 01:05 PM (PEb5B)

Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:06 PM (XyM/Y)

161 Someone brought up the excellent Thomas Hart Benton, and in light of all the ghey talk regarding Grant Wood, here's a quote from Benton on the typical art museum as being " a graveyard run by a pretty boy with delicate wrists and a swing in his gait." For this and for other disparaging comments about the influence of homosexuals in the art world, Benton was fired by the Art Institute.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at May 18, 2014 01:07 PM (jYg9H)

162 Think about this. if you dating someone would you want them to say, "I love you for what you can become." You should run from someone like that/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:08 PM (XyM/Y)

163 Waelsea1 --

I've been very low carb (mostly

Oh, and I went from 192 to 120-125 in about a year and a quarter, and have kept it off since.

Posted by: Empire1 at May 18, 2014 01:08 PM (zmc2p)

164 I've always been struck by the way the lines of the pitchfork are so clearly shown on the man's face and overalls as if to say that hard work is in the very fabric of his soul and personality. Then I look at the woman dressed with pride and wearing what is probably her only piece of nice jewelry and I imagine that it has been passed down from her mother from her grandmother, etc. and she treasures it dearly. It is a portrait of stoic, decent people.


Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:09 PM (7KPIw)

165 Twain was a misanthrope.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 12:56 PM (1UzRc)

Mostly after his daughter died.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2014 01:09 PM (QFxY5)

166 What I find is creepy that there are so many guys out there who think their father is the Zodiac Killer. Sheesh! Or, the Black Dahlia Killer. And they always have a book to sell... What nonsense.
Posted by: Sherlock Pug at May 18, 2014 12:57 PM (QQ/fJ)



BLACK ZODIAC: The True Story of How My Father Was Both the Black Dahlia Killer and the Zodiac Killer...For Reals!

Chapter One

I'll never forget the night my father came home covered in blood.

I'd just finished listening to the Jack Benny Show on the radio, when suddenly lightning flashed, thunder roared and Father stepped through the front door.

He was covered in blood.

"Father! What happened?" I queried.

"Oh, I cut some broad in half and fucked her gall bladder." he growled.

"What's fuck?" I queried once more.

Father slapped me across the face.

"Hey, don't use that word." he yelled like a banshee screaming like a banshee that had cut some broad in half.

"Okay, I won't" I said, "Well, then, what a gall bladder, Father?"

"Something good for fucking." he growled.

...to be continued.

Posted by: natural fake goes for the literary gold at May 18, 2014 01:11 PM (KBvAm)

167 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:08 PM (XyM/Y)


I am EVER so stealing that!


Thanks...

Posted by: HH at May 18, 2014 01:13 PM (XXwdv)

168 I think Americans-at least those who are truly moderate or conservative- can forgive Presidents for making mistakes-because of course they all do, but not when you get the sense that they just hate America and everything its done. Thats why as poor a President as I think he was and as nutty things he says now, I think Jimmy Carter loved America as President. With Obama, America will never be good enough. It has to be constantly apologized for and it's simply an avenue for Obama to get as much as he can until he goes onto the next step up the ladder in his life-whatever that is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:14 PM (XyM/Y)

169 Someone here wrote two books on Soccer?

Two?

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:16 PM (qafkn)

170 Jimmy Carter should die in a fire. That bastard never had any love of country.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:17 PM (qafkn)

171 168
Bingo! He's moving on up but, unlike the Jeffersons of TV fame, he's doing it on on our dime and not his own hard work.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:18 PM (7KPIw)

172 Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:06 PM (Mogjf)

Obama, Hagel and the rest of his administration will want this as the new uniform for the military cause it's fabulous!

http://tinyurl.com/kfqlwfy

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 01:18 PM (IZBji)

173 Her response was 'I love what America can become.'

I have no memory of that.
Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2014 12:20 PM (FcR7P)

Brain damage.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:19 PM (Mogjf)

174 138 grammie winger
Adhesions suck! Prayers are queued up and ready to go.
Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 12:43 PM (7KPIw)



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Just small tidbit. Researchers are studying cats because they never get adhesions after abdominal surgery.

Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2014 01:19 PM (cb1pm)

175 Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:17 PM (qafkn)

Nobody would die in a fire; It's horrible way to die, and we will have to disagree about Carter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:19 PM (XyM/Y)

176 I had adhesions after abdominal surgery. A couple of years later they started to strangulate and I went into the emergency room. I have never been in so much pain in my life. I didn't know it was adhesions, grammie. Extra prayers going up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:21 PM (XyM/Y)

177 With Obama, America will never be good enough. It has to be constantly
apologized for and it's simply an avenue for Obama to get as much as he
can until he goes onto the next step up the ladder in his life-whatever
that is.


can't speak for Carter (was only 4 when he was elected) but with Obama, I absolutely agree. it's the difference between believing America is a mostly great country with a few flaws (i.e., what patriots believe) and believing that America is a deeply horribly flawed country that needs massive structural change (i.e., waht Obama believes).

Posted by: chemjeff at May 18, 2014 01:22 PM (9GG/0)

178 174
The things Morons know. It never ceases to amaze.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:22 PM (7KPIw)

179 meant Nobody "should" die in a fire.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:22 PM (XyM/Y)

180 I got that Fenelon...
Still, if he were on fire I wouldn't piss on him.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:23 PM (hT2yW)

181 That daughters of revolution painting is awesome. I did not know about that. I notice the central character delicately holding an apparently English teacup prominently in the center. At first I thought that was the satire, while also thinking, those are seriously ugly broads. I do not think Americans made anything quite that precious as wedgewood-looking teacups. Teacups, older than our country.

Posted by: bour3 at May 18, 2014 01:24 PM (5x3+2)

182 Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 01:18 PM (IZBji)

Now, that's a naughty Nazi.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:24 PM (Mogjf)

183 I'd glad that the only beings that I think my father killed were possibly ones in WWII (he didn't like to talk about his experiences) and the many rainbow and brown trout he used to catch while fly fishing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:26 PM (XyM/Y)

184 I don't get it about Blood Meridian. I admit it's well written but it is about unpleasant people doing unpleasant things and has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:28 PM (Mogjf)

185 As for what I'm reading these days, I'm up to Yellow Eyes in the Posleen series. I did skip the two Cally books between Watch on the Rhine and that one, since Cally's War made me feel uncomfortably like a voyeur.

I've liked the non-Cally ones quite a lot, though.

Posted by: Empire1 at May 18, 2014 01:30 PM (zmc2p)

186 I don't get it about Blood Meridian. I admit it's well written but it is about unpleasant people doing unpleasant things and has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Left-wingers think that is what the American West was (and is) like: wholly without redemption.

Posted by: Robert Jordan at May 18, 2014 01:30 PM (lr3d7)

187 Posted by: bour3 at May 18, 2014 01:24 PM (5x3+2)

O...M...G...

Post your blog on the food thread.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 01:31 PM (IZBji)

188 He was a complicated man, and a genius writer.

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Did nobody understand him but his woman?

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 01:32 PM (Mogjf)

189 Most of Wood's paintings are less realistic.

They're not supposed to be "realistic", they're supposed to show idealized images. He's creating a mythology, not documentation.

Posted by: HR at May 18, 2014 01:33 PM (hO8IJ)

190 Posted by: bour3 at May 18, 2014 01:24 PM (5x3+2)

Yeah, that blog is cool.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 01:34 PM (1UzRc)

191 183 I'd glad that the only beings that I think my father killed were possibly ones in WWII (he didn't like to talk about his experiences) and the many rainbow and brown trout he used to catch while fly fishing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:26 PM (XyM/Y)



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Killing someone is a life-changing event, no matter what the circumstances. Even without the that particular act, knowing to your innermost self that you could kill another human is just as life-changing.

That could also be asked about sex. What gives a person the most thrill? The actual act of sex or the second one realizes it's going to happen?

Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2014 01:36 PM (cb1pm)

192 I liked the comment about the teacup in "Daughters of the Revolution". I had never seen that painting before and just looked it up, and the poster was correct about the Wedgewood looking teacup.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:36 PM (XyM/Y)

193 They're not supposed to be "realistic", they're supposed to show idealized images. He's creating a mythology, not documentation.

No, I get that. I also get that they look cartoonish to modern eyes.

I prefer realism just because non-realism is a slippery slope. You start to get Jackson Pollack and then you end up with paintings with second-grader quality figures and words all over it. I do like to know the painter has talent.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2014 01:36 PM (1UzRc)

194 Well Book Morons I am back from MIL's for second weekend in a row.


So the iconic American Gothic painting is about h8ters because it was painted by a homosexual huh? These people are insane.


As for what I am reading:


Have been re-reading John Ringo's Paladin of the Shadows series this week. I laugh every time I read that series of books.

Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2014 01:37 PM (T2V/1)

195 I just ordered my copy of "The Americans on D-Day: A Photographic History of the Normandy Invasion" by Marty Morgan.

Marty and I are buddies, and he put in a lot of work on this one. He pulled a lot of rarely seen photos out of the depths of the National Archives and from private collections to let us see some different views of the invasion.

For those of you who were at the NRA Annual Meetings in Indianapolis last month, he teased the book at his "Guns of D-Day Part II" discussion. I was his backup slide-flipper when Mark stepped out.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 18, 2014 01:37 PM (lx9X6)

196 Sometimes A Great Notion appears to be MIA on the list. Ken Kesey wrote a classic about a hippy becoming a man. Beautifully written, funny, and tough. See the Amazon reviews.

Posted by: pat at May 18, 2014 01:37 PM (KCg4m)

197 I've been very low carb (mostly

Oh, and I went from 192 to 120-125 in about a year and a quarter, and have kept it off since.
Posted by: Empire1 at May 18, 2014 01:08 PM (zmc2p)

Wow that's great Empire1, you obviously can handle it. I dropped from 233 to about 180 over the past two years.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 18, 2014 01:38 PM (x+P8L)

198 The LA Times is simply not a serious paper. It appears to be written and edited by, ah...rather feminine people who believe their job is to justify their delusional belief in their superiority.

Posted by: pat at May 18, 2014 01:40 PM (KCg4m)

199 Martin also wishes they could go back to the old days of where authors were paid by the word.

Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2014 01:40 PM (LI48c)

200 20 Heh. We had one a couple three weeks ago who threw a
tantrum because somebody uttered a disparaging remark about Kurt
Vonnegut. He was a real hoot.


Posted by: OregonMuse at May 18, 2014 11:14 AM (fTJ5O)


I have never liked Vonnegut either, and here lately Amazon seems to push his stuff every other week.

Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2014 01:40 PM (T2V/1)

201 You sum bitches awake?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 01:41 PM (teYM/)

202 Ace should have someone start an art thread every week. Surely there's a moron out there with an art background who would like to share his/ her knowledge and expertise.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:41 PM (7KPIw)

203 He bears strong resemblance to Lizzy Warren. Have we found another lost relative?

Posted by: fran at May 18, 2014 01:43 PM (TbuxW)

204 202 Ace should have someone start an art thread every week. Surely there's a moron out there with an art background who would like to share his/ her knowledge and expertise.
Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:41 PM (7KPIw)


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And in true moron style the first artist to be discussed should be Vargis.

Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2014 01:44 PM (cb1pm)

205 An "art thread"? Why don't we have the "How to tuck your balls" or "How to curtsy" fucking threads either?

Yes, I am being a dick. I am in the mood. What of it?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 01:45 PM (teYM/)

206 Twain wrote several short autobiographical pieces after his daughter died. For bare-bones writing the misery comes through so strongly to floor me.

I think Twain was misanthropic the same way that Menken was; he had such a strong view of what man was capable of he was frustrated as to what silliness he actually managed to accomplish.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2014 01:45 PM (x8NN2)

207 Isn't CAC an artist? Didn't he do some art threads?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 18, 2014 01:45 PM (zDsvJ)

208
202 Ace should have someone start an art thread every week. Surely there's a moron out there with an art background who would like to share his/ her knowledge and expertise.
Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:41 PM (7KPIw)


Well there is the Con-Art-Critic. But his art tends to consist of big boobs with green paint, which got the threads pulled, and weird levitating rocks. So he sticks to elections, polls, and space stuff.

Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2014 01:46 PM (LI48c)

209 CAC used to do an Art Thread before he got lost in the Bong and Telescope.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:47 PM (hT2yW)

210 204 -

Vargas was a hack!

Now, Elvgren was a true genius.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 01:47 PM (PEb5B)

211 Vonnegut is a horrible writer. Horrible. SciFi for liberals who believe they hate SciFi because it is a pocket genre.

Posted by: pat at May 18, 2014 01:47 PM (KCg4m)

212 Clearly, I've wandered into the wrong fucking thread. I'll find my way out. Apologies.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 01:47 PM (teYM/)

213 How soon you all forget.

Posted by: Levitatin Mass at May 18, 2014 01:48 PM (hT2yW)

214 Posted by: pat at May 18, 2014 01:37 PM (KCg4m)

Never read the book, but I love the movie, especially the ending with Fonda's arm and middle finger.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 18, 2014 01:48 PM (IZBji)

215 213 -

We tried to forget. It didn't work.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 01:50 PM (PEb5B)

216 I don't want to trigger Ricardo into a seizure so I won't mention that I'm trying to get a cob to do the occasional opera thread.

Oh. Wait.

Ooops!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 18, 2014 01:50 PM (zDsvJ)

217 205
Now those would be highly amusing. Which one can we do first?

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:51 PM (7KPIw)

218 "I had adhesions after abdominal surgery. A couple of years later they
started to strangulate and I went into the emergency room. I have never
been in so much pain in my life."

Asking the surgeon tough detailed questions about adhesion control really needs to be on everyone's checklist.

I have found that some docs are blithely uncomprehending about how serious and painful adhesions can be, and do nothing to try to mitigate the risk, whereas some are fully dialed in about adhesions and work carefully to minimize the chances of adhesions developing. Needless to say, it's best to choose one of the latter sort of doc.

Of course, all this business about "choosing" a particular doctor among several possible ones is becoming a quaint historical memory in the brave new era of Obamacare. As one Obamacare-participating health insurance company CEO put it recently, "we have to break people away from the choice habit".

Yes, yes, of course. Choice is a _habit_, like a smoking habit or an overeating habit or a heavy drinking habit. And since those habits are bad for you, the habit of choice is bad for you too. How simple it all is.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2014 01:52 PM (noWW6)

219 "I'm trying to get a cob to do the occasional opera thread. "


Wait. Effing, what?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 01:53 PM (teYM/)

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 01:53 PM (teYM/)

221 "his art tends to consist of big boobs with green paint"

Not seeing the problem here.

Posted by: Captain James T. Kirk at May 18, 2014 01:54 PM (noWW6)

222 Y-Not. LOL.

I don't see anything wrong theatre, art of opera threads. I'd prefer that to an actual "f'ing" thread or "This one time I had two girls giving me a BJ in the back seat."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:54 PM (XyM/Y)

223 "This one time I had two girls giving me a BJ in the back seat."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:54 PM (XyM/Y)


Just because.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 01:57 PM (hT2yW)

224 I would have asked the surgeon about adhesion control but I was about 21 at the time and it didn't occur to me- the scars from prior surgery started to strangulate my intestines. All I remember about the experience was my saying to my poor mother, :Stop hovering over me" and "I'd be happy to die so i can just be out of this pain." I know; Too much information. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 01:58 PM (XyM/Y)

225 Anyone notice that Jill Abramson bears a resemblance to Anna Wintour?. Look at that photo Drudge is using. Give Jill the long bangs and I swear those 2 gals are twins.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 01:59 PM (7KPIw)

226 The left has an anger problem. It is a life and belief system based on a never-ending cycle of grievance. No one can ever solve anything because there is always a villain, a bogeyman and another

Seems like despair is the underlying theme...

Posted by: Where's Batman? at May 18, 2014 02:01 PM (9/iF+)

227 Have to admit I've never read Mencken. Never had two girls give me a blow job either. *Sighs* I am so deprived.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 18, 2014 02:02 PM (CLHps)

228 OT: Smoothest baseball move of all time.

http://tinyurl.com/nfk6x9p

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 18, 2014 02:03 PM (Mogjf)

229 Per #1 American Gothic AR-10

http://tinyurl.com/lwhbjm8

Posted by: bour3 at May 18, 2014 02:03 PM (5x3+2)

230 To tell you the truth, CrotchetyOldJarhead, I don't think some of the people who share that kind of stuff on here have experienced it either. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:04 PM (XyM/Y)

231 In his later years, Twain was so despairing of the human condition, that he got himself a dog for companionship. He named the dog "Stains," and he loved that dog.

One day the dog ran away. For months and months afterwards, you could here Twain calling for his dog, "Come, Stains!" But the dog never came.

Sad, really.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 02:05 PM (PEb5B)

232 How about that California Chrome? Two hard working guys buy a horse for 10 thou, hire a has been trainer and win the Derby and the Preakness. Right out of a 1940's movie script.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 02:06 PM (7KPIw)

233 "Per #1 American Gothic AR-10 "

Rifle is okay. Wife, well. Reminds of times past. Don't need the negative.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 02:06 PM (teYM/)

234 Comparatively, on the Xfinity homepage, there is the perfect example of a question that the MFM will NEVER ask of a Dem of any other person from the left:

Did Rove's remarks on Clinton go too far?

The chances of SMOD striking and the Yellowstone caldera exploding at the same time, everyday for a month, is infinitely more likely.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2014 02:07 PM (BZAd3)

235 230
Guys being guys. Such braggers. Doesn't matter if the story is true. We girls love you anyway.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 02:08 PM (7KPIw)

236
230>> I agree. But...stranger things have happened, and I really could care less if they did.

The video of the kid swapping out the balls is pretty funny!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 18, 2014 02:08 PM (CLHps)

237 " How about that California Chrome? Two hard working guys buy a horse for 10 thou, hire a has been trainer and win the Derby and the Preakness. Right out of a 1940's movie script."

Is that the story? Cali Chrome just came out of the blue to me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 02:08 PM (teYM/)

238 Should be 'or' not 'of' in the obvious place.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2014 02:08 PM (BZAd3)

239 235
Oops. Meant to say "not true"

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 02:09 PM (7KPIw)

240 I went to see "Secretariat" which was a nice little film. Some moron reviewer got all bent up of shape about "horse racing in Jesusland" and racilal stereotypes of the trainer. Even that movie reviewer who died recently thought the review was way off the beam

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:11 PM (XyM/Y)

241 "Oops. Meant to say "not true""

Oh, Tuna. You're killing my mangled faith in the opposite sex.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 02:11 PM (teYM/)

242 Manly books. As has been mentioned here before, "Rifleman Dodd" by C.S Forester. Actually, I would recommend any of Forester's books. I still regard the Hornblower series as the ultimate best reads re the British Navy during the Napoleonic era.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 18, 2014 02:13 PM (aDwsi)

243 237
The owners are so atypical . What a joy to see.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 02:13 PM (7KPIw)

244 I thought "Seabiscuit" was a great movie and a better book, so there's always a place for a great horse racing film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:13 PM (XyM/Y)

245 And I'm also drinking too much. So, you may not be pissing me off as much as I think, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2014 02:13 PM (teYM/)

246
Well...the cigar is almost gone and the baseball game starts here soon and the sugar booger is waking up so I'm out. You all don't rile the neighbors, and toss the empties in the recycling bin.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 18, 2014 02:15 PM (CLHps)

247 I much prefer car racing movies to horse racing movies because, while the dramatic finish is essentially the same for both, there is a much greater chance we'll see somebody crash and burn in a car racing movie.

Statistically it's gotta be... what, about 100% chance of it?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 02:16 PM (PEb5B)

248 I have read a lot of Patrick O'Brian (sp) (and I loved his stuff) but not any C.S. Forester. Have you read O'Brian, Mike? If so, how do they compare

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:17 PM (XyM/Y)

249 "Statistically it's gotta be... what, about 100% chance of it? "

What?

Posted by: Steve McQueen at May 18, 2014 02:18 PM (teYM/)

250 Got sidetracked from "Running For My Life" when "Drawing the Circle" arrived in the mail. If you've ever read "The Circle Maker," "Drawing" is the companion book and just as wonderful. The pastor/author has tons of admonitions as well as Biblical citations that I wish I could have hanging all over the house to remind me throughout the day.

In fact, this afternoon, during Sunday dinner, I got to use one when one of the kids was sniping non-stop at the other: You're a child of God; act like it!

Anyhoo, The Circle Maker and Drawing the Circle are by Mark Batterson and are well worth the time. I read The Circle Maker a couple years ago and wanted to buy my own copy as soon as it trickled down to used booksellers. No such luck. People do NOT give up this book. I had to finally relent of my frugal ways and pay for a new copy. Good thing. The highlighting I'll put in it will be copious.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 18, 2014 02:19 PM (hrIP5)

251 Ricardo - Consider:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuYQ9KRJms

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 18, 2014 02:19 PM (aDwsi)

252 Which is why I prefer car racing movies to actual, you know, car racing. I get to enjoy the crashes.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 02:21 PM (PEb5B)

253 I'm back from seeing Godzill-o-rama 3D: MUTOpocalypse. Awesome popcorn flick. The audience cheered when Godzilla gave his full-throated RAAAAWWRRRR, and some idiot next to me shrieked her head off when his dorsal plates lit up (okay, it was me).

But on to books. One big recommendation for "Mornings on Horseback" by David McCullough, which explores how Teddy Roosevelt grew up to be the T.R. we know from the history books. Big emphasis on the NY Roosevelts as a tightly knit clan, especially his idolized father, a respected businessman and philanthropist. TR's mother was a true Southern belle and possibly offered some fodder for Gone With the Wind.

But my real triumph this week is the load of 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s classic sci-fi I got at a library book sale. Look on my books, ye Mighty, and despair! Heinlein, Simak, Cambell, Asimov, Van Vogt, Leiber, Sturgeon, Anderson, Dickson, Delaney.....some of the covers actually have finned rockets. I'm so jazzed!

Somebody carelessly donated a first edition Foundation worth $1500. The library really made bank on that one.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 18, 2014 02:21 PM (QBm1P)

254 I also love how after Chrome's owners were called dumb asses for spending the money on a nothing colt co-opted that phrase . Their "DAP"(Dumb Ass Partners)is displayed proudly on the front of the jockey's silks with a donkey on the back. Too funny.

Posted by: Tuna at May 18, 2014 02:23 PM (7KPIw)

255 If I may offer a contribution to manly books, I suggest Kabloona by Gontran de Poncins. Sure, he's French, but it's about him living with the Esquimaux (as Lovecraft would have it) back in the 30s. Fascinating true life stuff.

Posted by: Klawnet at May 18, 2014 02:24 PM (AYfPj)

256 I'm about halfway through our very own Anna Puma's short story collection and have very much enjoyed it so far.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2014 02:24 PM (ejehg)

257 American Gothic, government edition: http://bit.ly/1gEueEy

Posted by: RushBabe at May 18, 2014 02:26 PM (hrIP5)

258 But then car racing is better than the morning commute. In car racing, I can be concerned about the drivers' safety. In my morning commute, a fiery crash is going to have me mad at the sizzler for making me late for work.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2014 02:26 PM (PEb5B)

259 225 Tuna, freaky but true. Separated at birth, or are they actually the same person? Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time? Given Wintour's rep, suddenly everything about little Jill being a bitch makes sense.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 18, 2014 02:26 PM (B7YN4)

260 . Have you read O'Brian, Mike? If so, how do they compare

Posted by: Fenelon
----------------

It's a Ford vs. Chevy thing. I regard O'Brian as a Johnny-come-lately. The writing styles are different ,of course. You absolutely can NOT go wrong reading Forester. The Hornblower series should be read in chronological sequence, as there are forward and backward references. Yo might also enjoy 'The Good Shepard'

If you liked O'Brian, I think liking Forester is a sure thing. Give them a go. I have re-read the whole series and hate that it came to a close.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 18, 2014 02:26 PM (aDwsi)

261 Thanks for the recommendation and info, Mike.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:30 PM (XyM/Y)

262 I went to see "Secretariat" which was a nice little film. Some moron reviewer got all bent up of shape about "horse racing in Jesusland" and racilal stereotypes of the trainer. Even that movie reviewer who died recently thought the review was way off the beam
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:11 PM (XyM/Y)

I remember when Rush pointed out the song, "Oh, Happy Day," that was used in the soundtrack. It fit the scene to a "T."! Can you imagine a mainstream pop song about Jesus today? Then I remembered, "Put Your Hand in the Hand of the Man," "My Sweet Lord" and a few others. Might be a good trivia question, but I'd say the last mainstream rock song to have a religious bent to it was "Wheel in the Sky." Damn commies.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 18, 2014 02:30 PM (hrIP5)

263 I think I've found Jack Bauer.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at May 18, 2014 02:30 PM (Dwehj)

264 I really doubt that my wife will want to go today, but Godzilla is showing at a very convenient time for me at a theater right near the horse farm. If I go earlier, I can see the Godzilla 3D IMAX Experience at the same theater. Sounds intense.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 18, 2014 02:32 PM (ZshNr)

265 How about an NHL Conference Finals Thread?


GO BLACKHAWKS!

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2014 02:37 PM (Z05jB)

266
Some campus-pseudo-intellectual just made you counter-argue ludicrous claims about a portrait.


Who's more the fool?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2014 02:43 PM (5RE4Y)

267 Tonestaple,
Blessings and prayers for your RCIA. On that note, morons who haven't read Taylor Caldwell should pick up one of her books. She is conservative/ libertarian and has some incredible books with Roman Catholic themes ; e.g. The Listener. I especially enjoyed Answer as a Man, This side of Innocence and Grandmother and the priests. I started reading her in HS (late 70"s) and have continued to enjoy her books over the years. She was very predictive of the socialization of America.

Posted by: Barbara aka Bossy Barbara at May 18, 2014 02:46 PM (73mB5)

268 New open thread up

Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2014 02:47 PM (T2V/1)

269 No doubt I'm a fool about a number of things, but critiquing some dimwit's view of "American Gothic" on a blog which leftists don't read does not make me or anyone else who did it here a fool. I'm just chilling here. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:47 PM (XyM/Y)

270 Thanks, BB - I'll check her out. I had only heard of Taylor Caldwell and never actually read any of her stuff.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 18, 2014 02:48 PM (B7YN4)

271 "Grandmother and the Priests which I read about 25 years ago is a fine book-very entertaining, interesting and amusing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:49 PM (XyM/Y)

272 In fact, I enjoyed "Grandmother and the Priests" and the very engaging stories about heroic men of faith that I've read it about five times since then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2014 02:57 PM (XyM/Y)

273 Actually, I would recommend any of Forester's books. I still regard the Hornblower series as the ultimate best reads re the British Navy during the Napoleonic era.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 18, 2014 02:13 PM (aDwsi)


Agreed. I think my favorite Hornblower book is still Beat to Quarters. Too bad that the TV dramatization strayed so far from the original text. The Hornblower movie with Gregory Peck was not bad, however. Especially the sea battles, although again, the screenplay was very different from the three books on which the movie was based.

O'Brian is good, but I do prefer Forester. On the other hand, I liked Master and Commander a lot...more, in fact, than any of the Hornblower adaptations.

Posted by: CQD at May 18, 2014 03:03 PM (tcvYF)

274 I am learning ebook formatting to expand my little bizniss. Right now, I will format a moron's book for free, even with bullet points. I've already done one book like that for a friend and it seemed to work. It was a non-fiction history book with tables, bullet points, footnotes, illustrations, etc. I'd like more practice but I cannot write a book! Write to me at coversbykaren@gmail.com

Posted by: microcosme at May 18, 2014 03:06 PM (KvsiG)

275 253
I'm back from seeing Godzill-o-rama 3D: MUTOpocalypse. Awesome popcorn
flick. The audience cheered when Godzilla gave his full-throated
RAAAAWWRRRR, and some idiot next to me shrieked her head off when his
dorsal plates lit up (okay, it was me).


Yeah, I was pretty stoked when his dorsal plates lit up, too.

I was hoping that the pocket watch was an heirloom from the scientist who sacrificed himself to destroy Godzilla in the first movie, but no.

The bit about Yucca Mountain made me chuckle; "the place where you store all your nuclear waste"? Hah!

But overall it was awesome.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 03:08 PM (o78gS)

276 The bit about Yucca Mountain made me chuckle; "the place where you store all your nuclear waste"? Hah!

Posted by: Anachronda at May 18, 2014 03:08 PM (o78gS)

Yeah, I thought we stored it in New Jersey.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 18, 2014 03:12 PM (QBm1P)

277 "I was raised in America by an American father who never read: Chuang Tzu, Montaigne, Voltaire, Schopenhauer, Neitzsche."

I've read most of those guys, but I've never read Neitzsche. I've read Friedrich Nietzsche, but not this Neitzsche fellow. Maybe Mr. Fool could suggest a few of his books.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at May 18, 2014 03:40 PM (ZG3Fa)

278 108
Who wants to help me pick a book for my book club? So far we've read a
horrible, "edgy" religious book ("Lamb" by Christopher Moore) and a work
of so-so sci-fi ("The Thunderbird Project" by Rebecca Harwell,
suggested by author's brother who is in the book club). Club is half
men and half women, all under 35, various levels of education. I never
read Brideshead Revisited and want to suggest that or something in that
vein...any ideas?

I would say then read Brideshead Revisted- never read the other two books, but I remember liking it when I read it a long time ago. I am new to a book club too with no rules on what to choose. We have wandered into books set somewhat locally (just read Cold in July by Joe Landsdale- really had to suspend my disbelief on a few plot turns, but does nail the East Texas culture down well), so I suggested Isaac's Storm by Eric Larsen and so far it is a really good book (and I thought it might be after reading Murder in the White City s few years ago). Isaac's Storm is about the massive hurricane that took out Galveston in 1900. Some of the books club members have relatives who knew relatives that either made it or did not make it through the storm. So all of that for maybe something that is set in your local area for a suggestion?

Posted by: Charlotte at May 18, 2014 03:41 PM (euQHa)

279 Posted by: Charlotte at May 18, 2014 03:41 PM (euQHa)
----
Your book club reads Lansdale? He writes some pretty freaky stuff. I liked his steampunk edisonade "The Steam Man of the Prairie and the Dark Rider Get Down".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 18, 2014 04:01 PM (QBm1P)

280 I'll second "Kabloona" at post 255.

Excellent book about the Eskimos and their culture.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2014 04:38 PM (KBvAm)

281 Down: __Vivaldi__, by Michael Talbot and __Market Education__ by Cato's Andrew Coulson. The Vivaldi biography is sad; he dies half-way through. I knew he was dead, it's just that the second half of the book addresses the evolution and style of Vivaldi's instrumental and operatic works. It's full of terms like "glissando", "ripieno", and "descending fifth", and I don't read music or play an instrument, so it might as well have been in Italian.

Coulson's __Market Education__ provides history and informal economic analysis of the legal environment in which the education industry operates. It cites earlier scholars of the topic: E.G. West, Chubb and Moe, Myron Lieberman (any book on the topic that does not is ignorant) , and the advocates for compulsion: Mann, Dewey, Cubberley, etc.
My conclusion: homeschool.

I'm currently reading Richard Rhodes' __Arsenals of Folly__, since his __Making Love__ , __Why They Kill__ and __A Hole in the World__ so impressed me. A courageously honest author, like Orwell and Jonathan Rauch.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at May 18, 2014 04:49 PM (uHUBu)

282 279
Posted by: Charlotte at May 18, 2014 03:41 PM (euQHa)

----

Your book club reads Lansdale? He writes some pretty freaky stuff.
I liked his steampunk edisonade "The Steam Man of the Prairie and the
Dark Rider Get Down".

Cold in July (that the book club read) was one of his murder mysteries, not any of the steampunk or horror that he writes. Some of the club members has looked at his other stuff and were rather surprised by the other types of titles. Was not overly impressed with Cold in July, but I do like some good steampunk, so I may give your suggestion a try. Thanks

Posted by: Charlotte at May 18, 2014 05:10 PM (euQHa)

283 @278 - I recommend "The Speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon. It's near-future sci fi (but only barely sci-fi). It's a world where autism can be cured in vitro, and the story is told from the perspective of one of the last generations of autistics. He's pretty high functioning (has a job, friends, is in a fencing club, etc..), and is wondering whether or not to take a new treatment that will cure his autism (he needs it so he can become an astronaut).

Very compelling, lots of philosophical issues, and lots of funny points.

Posted by: RightWingPRof at May 18, 2014 05:30 PM (RtR5I)

284
I'm currently reading "Gloriana" by Michael Moorcock, a fantasy novel based on the life of Queen Elizabeth I, written in the style of Mervyn Peake, for lovers ofPeake's "Gormenghast" trilogy.
I just finished "The Guns of August" by Barbara Tuchman, a witty account of the personalities who led us into the First World War, an event that may soon be repeated, if somepredictions of the struggle in the Ukraine are to be believed.

Posted by: norrin radd at May 18, 2014 05:41 PM (aCrdp)

285 Oregon Muse--I believe you're right concerning the modelsin American Gothic, and must trust my meager knowledge on art history as to who they are supposed to depict. Thanks.

Posted by: Jim at May 18, 2014 09:15 PM (fGQup)

286 Pshaw! You aren't hardcore unless you write from a naked DOS prompt.

Dammit, man, there's no nudity on the book thread! I'm trying to run a high-class joint here.

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