Bob Owens: An Open Letter To A Hack Journalist

As we related on the NRA Annual Meeting podcast episode, Bob Owens, John E. and I had a discussion there with a tech journalist who was working on a piece about "smart guns".

Based on the journalist's (using that term loosely) tweets before the meeting ...


... I guess I'm not really surprised at the final product he turned in. Despite John and me both witnessing exactly what Owens describes in his post, it seems that Levine just couldn't find anyone who didn't go for his jugular at the mere mention of the term "smart gun".

A very interesting article, Yasha… and a very interesting bit of selective memory.

As I recall, I spoke to you for 30 minutes in the press room about “smart guns,” along with Andy and John from Ace of Spades.

That conversation even made it into a mention of their podcast.

You wanted to talk about “smart guns,” and how in your view, the industry and the NRA are against them.

I explained that very few of people who I know in the industry (and being the editor of an industry news site, I know a few) are against the concept of so-called “smart guns.” What we are against is the mandating of the technology, especially when it is still incredibly new and dangerously unreliable.

...

Read the whole thing and then, knowing what really happened, follow Owens' link to the piece-of-shit article Levine turned in.

He got the story he set out to get, truth and facts be damned. His publication's readers now have their stereotypes reinforced thanks to this bit of dishonesty, and one of the publication's investors now has a ready-made excuse for why he can't find his "Zuckerberg of guns".

[Update JohnE.]: I just have to quote this amazing paragraph from his article:

He thought the NRA was a harmless gun trade/lobby outfit, and didn’t seem to realize that it was much more than that: a cultural nexus for some of the most toxic politics in America: rabid xenophobia, racism, longing for a purer past, the glorification of extrajudicial justice against a creeping threat from within… tendencies that are not all that different than the bile that brought Hitler to power, I might have pointed out.
#NailedIt!

[Update2 JohnE.]: Just in case you weren't convinced this guy was a dim-witted hack yet, from his original article:

A free market investment into a tech that will be required by law by the government. Brilliant. You can’t think of a better business climate.
#NailedItAgain!

Posted by: Andy at 10:43 AM




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1 FIRST!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Syme (a.k.a. The Man Who Was Thursday) at May 14, 2014 10:44 AM (np9Kw)

2 Who doesn't like the idea of a gun that can be remotely deactivated by a dispassionate third party like the federal government?


You'd have to be some kind of reactionary to be against that.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 14, 2014 10:46 AM (9LuAk)

3 Will there be an Angry Birds app for the iPhone of guns?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 14, 2014 10:47 AM (2AlPN)

4 We don't need smart guns, the smart is supposed to reside within the user, just like every other product. I don't want a smart car that decides when to hit the brakes or swerve, either.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 10:47 AM (sBUAE)

5 I thought we were only allowed muskets? For hunting?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 10:47 AM (Fp7JI)

6 We need smart hammers. And smart nail guns. And smart circular saws. And definitely smart chainsaws.

Smart people? That would be way too much trouble.

Posted by: akula51 at May 14, 2014 10:48 AM (6LDr1)

7 That's what you get for not having a shoulder thingy that goes up, Andy.


You know, my smart phone locked up whilst I streaming the audio of a baseball game yesterday. The real world consequences of that? I missed hearing about my team scoring a run.

My smart gun locked up whilst attempting to pull the trigger. The real world consequences of that? I am raped and dead.


Gee. Why would I be skeptical of a government mandate for a smart gun? It's a mystery.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 10:49 AM (mf5HN)

8 5 I thought we were only allowed muskets? For hunting?


That's for The Ruling Class only, plebe.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 10:49 AM (7ObY1)

9 I wonder why smart guns are so attractive to dumb people.

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2014 10:49 AM (xWW96)

10 From the..uhhh article? Screed? Hacking? Whatever:
In February 2014, legendary Silicon Valley angel investor Ron Conway (also, a Pando investor) launched a foundation and a $1 million competition to find and fund inventors of next-gen smart gun technology.

All well there, I think I see your problem.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 10:50 AM (HDwDg)

11 If Zimmerman would have had a properly-programmed smart gun little Trayvon would still be alive today.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 14, 2014 10:50 AM (2AlPN)

12 >> I can only guess you must have lost that business card, those 30 minutes of your life, and perhaps worst of all, your integrity.

That would sting if he had any integrity to start with.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 14, 2014 10:50 AM (SUKHu)

13 Back in 1994-1996, when national assault rifle bans and local gun bans were the rage amongst the liberalazis, reporter hackwork was the norm. Nice pushback, Andy.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 10:50 AM (JBggj)

14 The news boy may have to start selling french fries. Fuck'em all.

Posted by: killerdog at May 14, 2014 10:50 AM (iz8V5)

15 If Yasha Levine needs a smart gun,

he's not smart enough to own a gun.

And therefore doesn't need and shouldn't own one.

For his own protection.

Cuz he's libtarded.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (0cMkb)

16 The primary beneficiary of smart guns would be police officers, who are probably the most at risk of being assaulted or killed with their own weapons. After they have tested this for twenty or so years I will be willing to think about it for myself. (Probably not for very long - but on the other hand I'll be seventy, so I'll mostly be yelling, "Get off my lawn!!")

Posted by: Have Blue at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (Y0i54)

17 What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Marry my daughter"? These are the people of the East. The common clay of New York City. You know--morons.

Posted by: Klawnet at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (AYfPj)

18 We need smart knives that only cut when the user is wearing a watch or bracelet!


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)

19 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 10:49 AM (mf5HN)

They made the good point in the podcast: if this were truly a free market "solution" no one would care.
But the New Jersey law shows quite explicitly this is the farthest thing from free market anything.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (HDwDg)

20 A Smart Gun is your backup piece.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (XCLgZ)

21
I cut my finger on my razor sharp hunting knife last week. All that pain and suffering could have been avoided with a smart knife mandate.
/drool

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (xWW96)

22 " it seems the Levine just couldn't find anyone who didn't go for his jugular at the mere mention of the term "smart gun"

smart gun is a trigger phrase for me.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (x3YFz)

23 I've got an even better idea for the smart gun folks.


Why don't we have some kind of call center where citizens call in to the Fed, reporting an in-progress assault / robbery / what have you, requesting permission to activate their weapon to defend themselves.


I mean, really, let's just full-bore with the damn thing.


Private Citizen John Doe, requesting authorization for deadly force and the unlocking of my SmartGun.


Standby, citizen, we're turning you over to the D.C. Division for authorization. Don't worry, these guys know their stuff. They handled the authorization of force for the Benghazi incident.

...


Yeah, that'll go over real nicely.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (9LuAk)

24
In my world, where safety is truly the number one issue, we have a saying: While you can continue to make the technology more and more idiot-proof, the world continues to make better idiots. I am not about to trust any technology over my own brain, and I am not about to allow the government to mandate it for me.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (sBUAE)

25 I tried reading the Pando article. too many dog whistles.

The shrieking made it impossible to read.

Posted by: Smythe the Incredulous at May 14, 2014 10:53 AM (qDAPV)

26 #SoundsLikeAGreatIdeaToMe

Posted by: Yasha Levine at May 14, 2014 10:53 AM (2AlPN)

27
Yeah, that'll go over real nicely.


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (9LuAk)


*SpongeBob Squarepants cue card*
FOUR HOURS LATER....

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

28
I think that any smart gun should be tested by the professionals. After the police are armed with smart guns and are happy with them for 5-10 years, then they should be allowed to be used by everyone else.

After all, who uses their guns more, the police or normal people? And police need all the safety advantages of smart guns. They often end up scuffling with suspects. A smart gun would prevent their gun from being used against them. If smart guns are not safe enough for the police, then they are not safe enough for me.

Posted by: rd at May 14, 2014 10:53 AM (N7QgG)

29 I dont know what a smart gun is. But the IPhone sucks.

Posted by: kancho assassin at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (qPxLX)

30 Regarding the comparison of the $1400 POS pistol to the poll tax, I grew up with the poll tax. As I recall the poll taxes never remotely approached anything of that magnitude even allowing for inflation.



And good take down of a liberal idiot. On liberals and gun control I keep going back to the first amendment.



What if we regulated the news like we do guns, especially since they are nothing more than lying jackasses for the corrupt Dem politicians.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (T2V/1)

31 Of course, when everyone is mandated to own only "smart guns" the government will have a means of turning them off via radio signal. It's for the children.

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (xWW96)

32 These people want Judge Dredd technology when they can't even make a fucking website.


No way.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (GQ8sn)

33 I really could use a smart dong! An I phone of dongs would be even better.

Posted by: Bob Dole's four hour woody at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (iz8V5)

34 Ace has written about Yasha's problem, something along the lines of prideful ignorance of things they deem to be vulgar.

Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (Ua6T/)

35 I try to open my iPhone using my fingerprint and it fails 80% of the time. Bring on the iPhone of guns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 14, 2014 10:55 AM (2AlPN)

36 The best part of hollwood movies that center in NY or LA is when the actor hears a bump in the night and grabs a baseball bat and sneaks out of the bedroom in his undies.

I don't know where ya'll grew up, but in our neck of the woods a bump in the night is met with the sound of a OO buck round being chambered in the remington 870 or the mossberg.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:55 AM (x3YFz)

37 I got a smart shot gun. I go out and blast it every now and then....

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (32Ze2)

38 These people want Judge Dredd technology when they can't even make a fucking website.


No way.


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (GQ8sn)


Thread winner. >_> Wrap it up, folks.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (9LuAk)

39 I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid I can't allow you to shoot that.

Posted by: The iPhone of Guns at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (2AlPN)

40 We should be skeptical of ANY government mandate, Alex.

Where does the government get authority to mandate anything to begin with?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (Fp7JI)

41 I actually got about halfway through the original article, skimming.

That fuck will be the first to be eaten during the burning times.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (/29Nl)

42 shotgun = smart gun

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (x3YFz)

43 I try to open my iPhone using my fingerprint and it fails 80% of the time. Bring on the iPhone of guns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 14, 2014 10:55 AM (2AlPN)


If it was like the iPhone, you will only be allowed to use ammo that Apple approves of, and everyone will know every time you fire it.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (GQ8sn)

44 When I hear "smart gun" I'm thinking about the end of "Breaking Bad."

Posted by: kancho assassin at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (qPxLX)

45 Please don't get me wrong. It's certainly valuable to read literature of writers who are not white and not male. I know somebody who just had an English Honors course with the novel "Things Fall Apart" by the Nigerian writer Chinua Achebe, and that is a fine book. However, their course was taught by a AA woman and the course which was called "Classics of Modern Lit" had not one white writer. i assume that was the teachers choice. i think it was a poor one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2014 10:57 AM (XyM/Y)

46 An android dong might be better though, more apps.

Posted by: Bob Dole's four hour woody at May 14, 2014 10:57 AM (iz8V5)

47 If you ask this fuck what party he is affiliated with, he will likely say he is "independent".

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2014 10:57 AM (xWW96)

48 Is there a Pulitzer Prize for condescension?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 14, 2014 10:57 AM (2AlPN)

49 I don't know where ya'll grew up, but in our neck of the woods a bump in
the night is met with the sound of a OO buck round being chambered in
the remington 870 or the mossberg.
=========
Or the windows rattling after midnight.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 10:58 AM (JBggj)

50 Do these smart guns explode ala 'Judge Dredd' when in the wrong hands?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 10:58 AM (Fp7JI)

51 If you ask this fuck what party he is affiliated with, he will likely say he is "independent".

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2014 10:57 AM (xWW96)

he's of the party of "People Who Go Willingly Into The Gas Chamber."

There's a lot of them.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:58 AM (x3YFz)

52 It's my nature.

Posted by: the scorpion at May 14, 2014 10:59 AM (QupBk)

53 does this shotgun make my ass look fat?

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:59 AM (x3YFz)

54 There really should be an open season for stupidity like this yoyo spews.

Posted by: Killerdog at May 14, 2014 10:59 AM (iz8V5)

55
Do these smart guns explode ala 'Judge Dredd' when in the wrong hands?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 10:58 AM (Fp7JI)


"Daddy, can I hold your gunARRRRRRRRRRGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

56 I think smart gunz are gonna be awesome! They'll all be connected up bluetoothy-like and when the rabble gets all uppity some crappy politician will press the oppressor button to turn em all off at once - and the police and military will find themselves all disarmed.

Posted by: Bigby's Secret Handshake at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (3ZtZW)

57 >>> The primary beneficiary of smart guns would be police officers, who are probably the most at risk of being assaulted or killed with their own weapons.

And they may be the only ones.

So my wife gets a smart gun for home defense but is out of town when we get burgled by some crackhead. I'm stuck with poorly designed brass knuckles.

Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (Ua6T/)

58 Yasha Levine writing about guns is as appropriate as me writing about eyeliner. In the good old days, writers had at least a passing understanding of the subjects they wrote about, instead of an agenda in search of justification.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (sBUAE)

59
does this shotgun make my ass look fat?

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:59 AM (x3YFz)

Yes. That recoil pad adds 10 lbs to your ass.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (GQ8sn)

60 Anyone who has ever played Metal Gear Solid 4 knows why smart guns are a bad idea.
Now where is my tactical cardboard box?

Posted by: Jollyroger at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (t06LC)

61 I closed the tab when he said Zimmerman shot St.Trayvon for "looking suspicious."

People like this are fundamentally unable to tell the truth.

I guarantee every single thing he called out was made up or exaggerated to the point of absurdity, up to and including the guy on the plane.

What kind of emo douchebag endures another guy's elbow in the ribs for an entire flight and doesn't say a fucking thing?

The same kind of emo douchebag that thinks guns = teh evil.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:01 AM (/29Nl)

62 they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (x3YFz)

63 the zuckerberg's of guns have come and gone already.
stoner
colt
browning

Posted by: elrobalo at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (wH5Tk)

64 When your smart gun fails, peeing your pants and projectile vomiting can save the day.

Posted by: University of Colorado at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (2AlPN)

65 Where does the government get authority to mandate anything to begin with?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 10:56 AM (Fp7JI)

__________________
Yoo hooooooo

Posted by: Dred Judge Roberts at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (32Ze2)

66 The snark in that tweet is amazing and completely devoid of self-awareness. It's amazing how disdainful of the common man that today's "liberals" are.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (T0NGe)

67
they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

--

That would help explain the lines at Cabelas for 'dumb' guns.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (sBUAE)

68 California Approved Handgun Safe http://youtu.be/oWucDHAphQ8

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (QupBk)

69
they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (x3YFz)

Like in Fast and Furious?

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)

70 You must disarm so that those less-equipped to survive can bring you down to their level.

Never mind the fact that people who want to survive don't cut off their nose to spite their face.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (/29Nl)

71 Posted by: Klawnet at May 14, 2014 10:51 AM (AYfPj)

+100 for the Blazing Saddles reference

Posted by: phrehone at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (kFxpe)

72 When your smart gun fails, peeing your pants and projectile vomiting can save the day.

Posted by: University of Colorado at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (2AlPN)

heh.. ISWYDT

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (x3YFz)

73 they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (x3YFz)


If not for the obvious implications of that, I could see a market that actually.

I had a friend after getting his deer up a ridge was so tired he left his gun there. Luckily we found it before dark, but had we not a GPS tracker would have been nice.

But as I said, the obvious government implications make that...unwanted.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:04 AM (HDwDg)

74 >> I closed the tab when he said Zimmerman shot St. Trayvon for 'looking suspicious.'

Well, wouldn't you be suspicious of someone beating your head against the ground??

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 14, 2014 11:04 AM (SUKHu)

75
>>>they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

It'll make geocaching fun for the kids!

Posted by: Bigby's Secret Handshake at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (3ZtZW)

76 Like in Fast and Furious?

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)

I've never seen the movie. From the title, I'm assuming it's a Moron movie about Kate Upton and pointy elbows.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (x3YFz)

77 Before throwing out reference about Hitler:
Hitler's power was unchecked because he disarmed the people. Duh.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (1e3lQ)

78 A "smart gun" would neither be smart, or a gun.....in any practical sense.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (32Ze2)

79 I've got better ways to spend $1400 on a gun.

It's called a Springfield TRP.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

80

Normal
0


From Ann Coulter


There must be a 5 day waiting
period for posting news stories on violent crimes.

These stories must be registered
with a local dealer in news and can not be sold via the mail or over the
internet.




Only non-felon people who are
citizens over 21 may buy and read newspapers.



One can not buy more than 1
newspaper each month.





Automatic newspaper vending
machines are forbidden if built after 1986.




Since Television news can not be adequately regulated,
it is hereby forbidden.

Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (T2V/1)

81 (I had to edit and change those double quotes to single quotes before I could post that.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (SUKHu)

82 Server go boom!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - #incensed by the #imbecility at #Outrage Outlet at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (hLRSq)

83 63 they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.


Hey! We can track the criminals then!

Posted by: Fast and furious bastards at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (Fp7JI)

84 I got as far as the guy talking about Nazis.

Yeah, know where this is going.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (fWAjv)

85 I've never seen the movie. From the title, I'm assuming it's a Moron movie about Kate Upton and pointy elbows.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (x3YFz)


Yeah, it's about my right arm movements.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:06 AM (GQ8sn)

86 "A free market investment into a tech that will be required by law by the
government. Brilliant. You can't think of a better business climate."

Not all that different than the way crony industrialists made $ under Hitler, I might have pointed out.

Posted by: forest at May 14, 2014 11:07 AM (stMuz)

87 Interesting. Vic only has to take a big whiff of the barrell.

Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2014 11:07 AM (Ua6T/)

88 (I had a comment that got two server errors. There may be some fifth columnists amongst the hamsters.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - #incensed by the #imbecility at #Outrage Outlet at May 14, 2014 11:07 AM (hLRSq)

89 Well, wouldn't you be suspicious of someone beating your head against the ground??

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 14, 2014 11:04 AM (SUKHu)


No, he was a nice boy, just went to get a drink and candy for his little brother.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (/29Nl)

90 Old Yasha is takin' it in the shorts in the comment section of his article.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (v0/PR)

91 Reminder: All "government mandates" exist to give inferior products advantage over superior ones, and to make it possible to sell things no sane person would purchase otherwise.

Health care, smart guns, unions...when you really think about it? Boils down to the same thing in all cases. (I would consider hiring preferences in the same light, but I know mileage varies on that point.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (rt3TY)

92
Not all that different than the way crony industrialists made $ under Hitler, I might have pointed out.

---
Solyndra, GE, Warren Buffet, etc

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (sBUAE)

93 Smart guns do not solve his problem. If kids with an eighth grade education can put together zip guns, his problem still exist.

Posted by: burt at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (yp2Xd)

94 Reading the Levine piece was like watching a Hollywood movie. Every stereotype of the right was in it. Very tiring. How do you counter that?

Posted by: Sphynx at May 14, 2014 11:09 AM (OZmbA)

95 >>> I got as far as the guy talking about Nazis.
>>> Yeah, know where this is going.

That's unfair to assume that big government types favor putting undesirable people in camps.

Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2014 11:09 AM (Ua6T/)

96 Interesting. Vic only has to take a big whiff of the barrell.

Vic left graffiti on the original barrel.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 14, 2014 11:09 AM (rt3TY)

97
Smart guns do not solve his problem. If kids with an eighth grade education can put together zip guns chew their toast into a shape of a gun, his problem still exist.

Posted by: burt at May 14, 2014 11:08 AM (yp2Xd)



Fixed.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:09 AM (GQ8sn)

98 63 they actually (I read off some drudge article a while back) want to put GPS trackers in guns.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:02 AM (x3YFz)

And guns that self-destruct or can be destroyed remotely.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:10 AM (fWAjv)

99 If kids with an eighth grade education can put together zip guns

With Common Core, an 8th grade education isn't sufficient.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 14, 2014 11:10 AM (T0NGe)

100 *trigger pulled*

Do you wish to fire a bullet?

*trigger pulled*

INVALID OPERATION

Do you wish to fire a bullet?

*trigger pulled*

"Yes, yes, yes!! He's got a knife. He's going to rape me."

*trigger pulled*

For Safety Reasons, please answer the following questions:

If this is an attempted rape have you urinated on and defecated upon yourself to make yourself undesirable to the alleged potential rapist?

*trigger pulled*

No. Please, I'm trapped in this alley he's coming .

*trigger pulled*

Please urinate and defecate upon yourself.

*trigger pulled*

Please urinate and defecate upon yourself.

This is the first step of a ten step process, which will allow you to fire a bullet.

*trigger pulled*

*trigger pulled*

*trigger pulled*

*scream registered*

*scream registered*

*iGun released by owner*

*scream registered*

*iGun shutting off*

Posted by: The iGun at May 14, 2014 11:11 AM (0cMkb)

101 How about "smart" laptops that prevent journalists from spewing their hate of those not like them or those they don't understand?

Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2014 11:11 AM (wrwPZ)

102 >>> Vic left graffiti on the original barrel.

He was pissed because old man Noah wouldn't let him play in his scrap pile.

Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2014 11:11 AM (Ua6T/)

103 When y'all talk about "the barrel" are y'all talking about a gun barrel? Or a whiskey barrel? Or some other kind of barrel?

Posted by: Sphynx at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (OZmbA)

104 The paragraph quoted in the JohnE update ...

That kind of stuff is just one more city block of evidence that the progs have slammed into a wall. Reality has penetrated the DC-NY corridor bunkers and the inhabitants are reacting just as expected - vile, tendentious libel; tendentious because we've been reading and listening to this crap since the 60s. And he's preaching to the converted. This isn't a tactic for an optimistic, victorious vanguard, it's the incandescent rage of the delusional facing imminent defeat.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (JBggj)

105
If smart guns are mandated, traditional guns will be illegal.

If traditional guns are made illegal, only criminals will have traditional working guns

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (sBUAE)

106 Ima hold out for the smart plasma rifle , until then , I'll stick with the hundred plus year old tech of my 1911 among others .
In fact the less moving parts , the better .
Electronics and batteries in firearms , fuck you .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (whqez)

107 Oh ye who can't envision our future Utopia where panaceas truly are, and wonder freely through the fields sprinkled with fairy dust in the company of herds of unicorns.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (BZAd3)

108
I had a friend after getting his deer up a ridge was so tired he left his gun there. Luckily we found it before dark, but had we not a GPS tracker would have been nice.


Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:04 AM (HDwDg)

not to sound dickish, but... how to put it... ok a story is best:

Rule #1: Know exactly where your weapons are

In ranger school, candidates are disqualified on the spot for safety, and the two quickest ways to get thrown out are to put your booger hook on the bang switch when not engaging or to lose track of your rifle.

Hell, forgetting to change mags prior to an assault will buy you an hour of upside down koala bear. (Invert, hug tree, don't let your brain bucket touch the ground)

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (x3YFz)

109 103 When y'all talk about "the barrel" are y'all talking about a gun barrel? Or a whiskey barrel? Or some other kind of barrel?

Posted by: Sphynx at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (OZmbA)

C'mere and I'll show ya.....

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:13 AM (fWAjv)

110 wonder = wander

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 14, 2014 11:13 AM (BZAd3)

111 The only purpose behind the push for smart guns is to make guns so expensive that a lot of people can't afford them. No other reason.

Posted by: Yancey Ward at May 14, 2014 11:14 AM (RGR0F)

112
C'mere and I'll show ya.....

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:13 AM (fWAjv)

oh this is going to be fun!

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:15 AM (x3YFz)

113 109
103 When y'all talk about "the barrel" are y'all talking about a gun barrel? Or a whiskey barrel? Or some other kind of barrel?



Posted by: Sphynx at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (OZmbA)



C'mere and I'll show ya.....

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:13 AM (fWAjv)


The straight man. Why do I always have to play the straight man?

Posted by: Sphynx at May 14, 2014 11:15 AM (OZmbA)

114 Noting the Gun story in the Morning Dump, one would have to be crazy to go to a 'mental health professional' these days. No matter what the voices may say about it, I'm not giving the state the excuse to take my weapons. Liquor is treatment enough.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 14, 2014 11:15 AM (QupBk)

115 and the two quickest ways to get thrown out are to put your booger hook
on the bang switch when not engaging or to lose track of your rifle.



The NCO's used to pull all sorts of stuff on the cadets going through their advance camp training and selection. Like reaching under toilet stalls to grab weapons while they were taking a shit, sneaking up behind them during meals if they had them leaning against a tree, etc. Made them think about weapon security a whole lot.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:16 AM (GQ8sn)

116 meh
chrome still not showing AOSHQ for me
have to use alt

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2014 11:17 AM (IXrOn)

117 A gun that requires a battery to operate is a contradiction in and of itself, putting all other issues aside.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:19 AM (aDwsi)

118 Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:12 AM (x3YFz

He knew well and good where it was until he passed out (it was a big deer and a steep ridge, and frankly he wasn't in the best of shape.)

There was also some miscommunication in there about who had his gun when we arrived to help him get the deer out of the ridge (Which took another hour or so.)

I'm not saying it wasn't a big mistake, indeed we all agreed in the chaos we screwed up big time (I also dropped a 3 round magazine I had in my overall pocket that I hadn't loaded into my rifle yet.)

I'm saying mistakes happen.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:19 AM (HDwDg)

119 the left is just skared of the armed citizenry.

it's really that simple.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:19 AM (x3YFz)

120 chrome still not showing AOSHQ for me
have to use alt

Posted by: artisanal
----------------

I would suggest dumping Chrome, but people often bristle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:20 AM (aDwsi)

121 Sharknado 2

http://tinyurl.com/mw9cmp8

Posted by: Gabriel Syme (a.k.a. The Man Who Was Thursday) at May 14, 2014 11:20 AM (np9Kw)

122 Falls into the category of:

Being too far apart in beliefs to ever have a coherent discussion about guns.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (A98Xu)

123 Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:16 AM (GQ8sn)

I'd also note that none of us at deer camp are in the military, and would all probably wash out of the military the first day.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (HDwDg)

124 Next up for Smart Gun technology: malware.



"Your gun may be infected with a virus. Send $50 to unlock your gun!"


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (GQ8sn)

125 the left is just skared of the armed citizenry.

it's really that simple.

Posted by: tangonine
-----------------------------------

They are fooking dangerous!

Posted by: Boko haram zombies at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (aDwsi)

126 your booger hook


Joe Garcia (D-Pig) calls that an eating utensil

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (7ObY1)

127 I'm saying mistakes happen.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:19 AM (HDwDg)

they do, indeed. As long as they don't involve C-4 or an aircraft, you mostly live through it and learn the lesson.

I had an AD on a revolver (.22 mag) right in front of my wife about 15 years ago.

Will. Never. Happen. Again.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (x3YFz)

128 Noting the Gun story in the Morning Dump, one would
have to be crazy to go to a 'mental health professional' these days. No
matter what the voices may say about it, I'm not giving the state the
excuse to take my weapons. Liquor is treatment enough.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 14, 2014 11:15 AM (QupBk)


I made the mistake of reading some of the comments.
No one, NOT ONE, person seemed to understand that psychiatrists can make shit up due to a political agenda.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (/29Nl)

129 @120 - chrome works fine here.

Of course, it doesn't work at PJ Media, something chrome does with its cookies blows up their comment engine.

Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (o+SC1)

130 the left is just skared of the armed citizenry.

They should be.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (QupBk)

131 When people say this kind of shit, you can't reason with them:

"He thought the NRA was a harmless gun trade/lobby outfit, and didn't seem to realize that it was much more than that: a cultural nexus for some of the most toxic politics in America: rabid xenophobia, racism, longing for a purer past, the glorification of extrajudicial justice against a creeping threat from within tendencies that are not all that different than the bile that brought Hitler to power, I might have pointed out."

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (A98Xu)

132 I'd also note that none of us at deer camp are in the military, and would all probably wash out of the military the first day.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:21 AM (HDwDg)


This was in ROTC during the summer inbetween the cadets' junior and senior year. They go and get evaluated on everything they've learned and come back with a grade that determines their overall performance and selection for what branch they want to get in. Cadets that score below a certain grade are washed out.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:23 AM (GQ8sn)

133
We've seen this movie before and know how it ends .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 11:24 AM (whqez)

134 (I had a comment that got two server errors. There may be some fifth columnists amongst the hamsters.)


Damn gerbils.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2014 11:24 AM (UO/AH)

135 I use Chrome and the comments at PJ Media load fine for me.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (7ObY1)

136 Will. Never. Happen. Again.

Posted by: tangonine
-----------------

Fox Model B,side-by-side, 20 ga., discharged while carrying it on my shoulder. Cold beads of sweat followed. I was maybe 15. NEVER.FORGOTTEN.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (aDwsi)

137 Before, a prime reason for owning a weapon was because we had a right to.

Now, a prime reason to own a weapon seems to be because the government doesn't want you to.

The significance of the nuance in that to me, is striking.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (BZAd3)

138 "...rabid xenophobia, racism, longing for a purer past, the glorification of extrajudicial justice against a creeping threat from within..."

***

Projection ain't just a river in Egypt....

Posted by: B at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (Pson9)

139 What the hell is Pando? Just another lefty internet rag? The article by the guy is unreal. What a propagandist. Well, he knows his audience...

Posted by: Harvard Satanists at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (26E00)

140 the left is just skared of the armed citizenry.

They should be.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (QupBk)

The odd part is that they're the aggressive, annoying ones. We just want to be left the hell alone.

But nope. They keep poking my eagle with a stick.

Eventually, the Eagle is going to lose patience.

Ass will be had.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (x3YFz)

141 They should just ban oxygen...that way, the gunpowder won't burn, and those icky bullets will just stay where they are. For the children!

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:26 AM (yaeMF)

142 129 @120 - chrome works fine here.

Of course, it doesn't work at PJ Media, something chrome does with its cookies blows up their comment engine.

Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (o+SC1)


Thanks. I cleared all history, etc, then updated version.

Now, it works.

thx

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 14, 2014 11:27 AM (IXrOn)

143 Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:22 AM (x3YFz)

I'll say this for my friend (cousin actually) he had already unloaded his rifle before he set it down as he knew we were coming for him, we just couldn't get the ATVs to him.

Relatedly a friend was just telling me he was at the range with one of his friends (trap) who had bad trigger control and had an AD while loading his break action .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (HDwDg)

144 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)

145 The odd part is that they're the aggressive, annoying ones. We just want to be left the hell alone.

But nope. They keep poking my eagle with a stick.

Eventually, the Eagle is going to lose patience.

Ass will be had.
***

To borrow from Hobbes, CW 2.0 will be nasty, brutish, and short.

Posted by: B at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (Pson9)

146 O/T

Housing bubble, here we come again!

http://tinyurl.com/lhufkha

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (GVzTZ)

147 Now, a prime reason to own a weapon seems to be because the government doesn't want you to.

The significance of the nuance in that to me, is striking.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (BZAd3)

heh... had this discussion with a friend.

Tell me I can't do something and it becomes the thing I want to do.

Try to track the mileage on my car and I'll find a workaround.

Try to measure how much electricity I use via the box outside the house and I'll hack it.

We're 'mericans. It's what we do.

Tell me I can't do something and I'll do it, paint it pink, put a bra on it and laugh at you.

We're bred to resist.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (x3YFz)

148
Going OT. This got enstompened in the last thread.

Horde sourcing, please? Advice on digital cameras.

I have an old one that's not great and dying anyway. I came up through old school emulsion photography and still use a 35 mm Canon and a medium format Bronica, but I'm looking for a reliable digital that's actually good.

How much money do I have to spend? What is good? There are some DSLRs on ebay for less than $600. Will I be disappointed at that price point, etc.?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (JtwS4)

149 At the bottom of the Pando article is a link to David Bam Sirota. I'd almost forgotten about him.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 14, 2014 11:30 AM (ZshNr)

150 144 - Wow!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (aDwsi)

151
Big laugh, that last line in Owens' article is awesome. He split Robin Hood's arrow that split another arrow, with a bullet.

That sissy from Pando Daily didn't go to that meeting to get information, he just went to say he was there so he could submit his pre-written trash.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (hJauc)

152 How much money do I have to spend? What is good? There are some DSLRs on
ebay for less than $600. Will I be disappointed at that price point,
etc.?



Nikon 5100.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)

153 We're bred to resist.
Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (x3YFz)

Unfortunately, quite a few of us seem to resist education, manners and common sense.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (yaeMF)

154 Please wait while iPhone of guns installs an update...5% complete...

Posted by: TxDan at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (GoAPH)

155 144 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu
Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)



That's amazing!

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 1 at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (oMKp3)

156 There are some DSLRs on ebay for less than $600. Will I be disappointed at that price point, etc.?
-------------

* looks at dopey $90.00 Coolpix.., sighs *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (aDwsi)

157 Tell me I can't do something and I'll do it, paint it pink, put a bra on it and laugh at you.



That's why I come here. The poetry!

(and I'm the same way, tangonine. Tell me I can't do something and I'll find a way to do it.)

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (7ObY1)

158 From previous thread, re. camera queston:

Frumious Bandersnatch

I am using a Canon T3i, you can get one of these for under $1000 with a kit 18-55mm lens. It is more than sufficient for anything but the most demanding pro work. I have shot everything from portrait to hockey to ski jumping with mine, some of that work actually being published.

With lenses appropriate to the type of work you wish to do, you couldn't find a much better camera for the price.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (qRDBx)

159 Fox Model B,side-by-side, 20 ga., discharged while carrying it on my shoulder. Cold beads of sweat followed. I was maybe 15. NEVER.FORGOTTEN.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (aDwsi)

That comment actually made me sweat some. YIKES.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (A98Xu)

160 I didn't shoot that guy, officer....my iGun was hacked!

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (yaeMF)

161 Tell me I can't do something and it becomes the thing I want to do.

Try to track the mileage on my car and I'll find a workaround.

Try to measure how much electricity I use via the box outside the house and I'll hack it.

We're 'mericans. It's what we do.

Tell me I can't do something and I'll do it, paint it pink, put a bra on it and laugh at you.

We're bred to resist.
Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (x3YFz)

You absolutely CAN NOT give me a couple grand!!

I dares ya!

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:34 AM (fWAjv)

162 I hope some psycho breaks into Yasha's loft, pistol whips him and then ass rapes him. Then Yasha can pivot to important articles on how the night he realized he was gay.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 14, 2014 11:34 AM (o6hCV)

163 (and I'm the same way, tangonine. Tell me I can't do something and I'll find a way to do it.)

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (7ObY1)


Ok.


You can't come clean my house and cook dinner.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:35 AM (v0/PR)

164 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:



http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)



I wonder if that dog has been put down yet.


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:35 AM (GQ8sn)

165 144 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu
Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)

SUPERCAT!

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 11:36 AM (fWAjv)

166 I suspect many of us here would be diagnosed with "opositional defiance disorder" or some such. I don't want to cause trouble (and generally follow the rules) but anyone who takes that as qn invitation to *control* me is in for a surprise.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 14, 2014 11:36 AM (GDulk)

167 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:



http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)

Damn, if that was my cat, he'd get so many treats. Awesome.

Posted by: KG at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (p7BzH)

168
I wonder if that dog has been put down yet.




That dog was scary. I couldn't see any provocation on the child's part. It looked like the dog just snuck up on him and attacked. Good cat.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 1 at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (oMKp3)

169
I wonder if that dog has been put down yet.




That dog was scary. I couldn't see any provocation on the child's part. It looked like the dog just snuck up on him and attacked. Good cat.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 1 at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (oMKp3)

170 I simply cannot believe that Keith Crisco just happened to fall down and die immediately before mounting a recount challenge (for which he had a very strong case) against a protected species - a Ghey Democrat.

Call me a tin-foil hatter but that's one HELL of a coincidence.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (7ObY1)

171 Note that the cat first turns back to the kid, but seeing the Cavalry arriving, commences hot pursuit of the canine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (aDwsi)

172 @146 - oh God.

Think I've said before that my spidey-sense went on full alert back around 2006 when - I think it was NPR - did some kind of tongue-bath of a couple mortgage lenders who were so wonderfully expanding their lending into the illegal-immigrant community.

What was that old definition of insanity?

Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (o+SC1)

173 Well huh.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 1 at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (oMKp3)

174 24
In my world, where safety is truly the number one issue, we have a saying: While you can continue to make the technology more and more idiot-proof, the world continues to make better idiots. I am not about to trust any technology over my own brain, and I am not about to allow the government to mandate it for me.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 10:52 AM (sBUAE)

And you all wonder why we do mass murders: fewer idiots and others. Of course we have to find rationales to disarm you idiots first.

Posted by: every leftist government ever at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (36Rjy)

175 Unfortunately, quite a few of us seem to resist education, manners and common sense.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:31 AM (yaeMF)

If you look around, the Horde has more degrees than a thermometer. Polite and courteous when need be. Quite possibly the greatest squirrels on the planet.

Rude and abrasive when it's fun to be.

If you're referring to the populace in general, then yup, I agree. But don't use "us" and include yourself with "them."

"us" is The Hall, a combine on a field, a 15 year old moving hand irrigation lines before two-a-day football practices. That's "us"

They're not "us"

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (x3YFz)

176
OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

--

Wow, I really dislike cats, but that one has my respect.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (sBUAE)

177 Call me a tin-foil hatter but that's one HELL of a coincidence.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (7ObY1)


Seems to me if you were going to go all old school political machine like that, you wouldn't waste your big bullet on Clay Aiken.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (HDwDg)

178 anagrams of ole Yasha:

heavy saline
heavy aliens
hyena, vile as
eyelash vain

#3 and #4 fit best. Also, I suspect Yasha could give Pajama Boy a run for his money in the sucking down of hot cocoa while wearing a onesie.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (wNF3N)

179 That's one heroic cat.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (7ObY1)

180 (and I'm the same way, tangonine. Tell me I can't do something and I'll find a way to do it.)

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:33 AM (7ObY1)
Ok.
You can't come clean my house and cook dinner.

Posted by: Tami
--------------

You'd damn sure better not try to paint my house.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:39 AM (aDwsi)

181 Seems to me if you were going to go all old school political machine like that, you wouldn't waste your big bullet on Clay Aiken.


Given the current push for the gheying of everything, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

The Ghey Mafia may be becoming an actual Mafia.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (7ObY1)

182
Nikon 5100.
Is that > or < than the Nikon 3200? I saw some of those on ebay, too.

And thanks for the Canon T3i tip, too.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (JtwS4)

183 We're bred to resist.
Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:29 AM (x3YFz)


The Left has been trying to destroy the very Idea of the Rule of Law, through selective enforcement, and making bad law.

The only reason America still works, is the vast Majority of people, who are NOT leftists, still have try to follow the law....

But we are at a tipping point.... because:

Consent of the Governed....

Posted by: Romeo13, Salty Sea Dog at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (84gbM)

184 Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (o+SC1)

What happened to winding the Mac twins down?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (HDwDg)

185 Some E-4 returning from the range to the barracks, hops out of the rear of the deuce and a half, his M60 fires right through his boot. Burned his toes, but he kept them all. M60's required a final clearing or something that people had to be reminded of, right? Well, he forgot that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (ZshNr)

186 Leftists gonna lie.

They can't help themselves.

Also the racist bigoted depiction of a gun owner in the leftist's tweet is all the preview one needs. No need to waste time on a fool. Next!

Posted by: prescient11 at May 14, 2014 11:40 AM (tVTLU)

187 Bob Owens should have stuck to running roadside restaurants.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (BAS5M)

188 That cat is a goddam ninja. I *really* like how once the kid was safe, he took off after the damn dog.

Score one for cats.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (/29Nl)

189 Wait, nevermind. wrong guy. Scratch that.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (BAS5M)

190 wonderfully expanding their lending into the illegal-immigrant community.

What was that old definition of insanity?

Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (o+SC1)

When I left the service, I wasn't a resident of the state (claimed TX). The illegals got in-state tuition.

As a vet I had to pay out of state tuition for a year until I could establish residency. Illegals? Nope. Free ride. Veteran? Fucked.

/not happy face

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (x3YFz)

191 That dog was scary. I couldn't see any provocation
on the child's part. It looked like the dog just snuck up on him and
attacked. Good cat.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 1 at May 14, 2014 11:37 AM (oMKp3)


I'm a dog person, but once an animal attacks a person in that manner without cause, it's 20 minutes of nature footage and classical music time.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (GQ8sn)

192 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

This, too, is the story of Obama.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (T0NGe)

193 Bob Owens should have stuck to running roadside restaurants.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (BAS5M)


That's Bob Evans!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (GQ8sn)

194
I'm a dog person, but once an animal attacks a person in that manner without cause, it's 20 minutes of nature footage and classical music time.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:41 AM (GQ8sn)


I'm a dog person too but....I'd like to first meet the dog's owner before putting the dog down. Might need a twofer.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (v0/PR)

195 This is a big part of why problems persist with the press.

Bob Owens, Andy and a lot of the commenters here are blaming Yasha Levine for this article. For all we know, Levine may have written a totally acurate, fair and balanced piece for publication. As always, we on the right jumped to condemn Levine without knowing all the facts.

Regardless of Levine actually wrote, the blame for the article that appeared is held by Sarah Lacy. As the editor-in-chief, she is responsible for what ends up on her site. Critisism should be directed at her. By not holding the editor-in-chief accountable, the same scenario will play out again and again, no matter how many Levines come and go.

When we begin to focus ridicule on people like Lacy for publishing articles like this, we will begin the process of changing how lies are transmitted to the public.

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (u2a4R)

196 Smart guns? Hell I dislike the palm safety on the XD based on a possibility that I wouldn't be able to engage the safety for a couple of reasonable scenarios.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 14, 2014 11:43 AM (kJMLd)

197 They're not "us"

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:38 AM (x3YFz)

Yes, I was referring to the goobers, windowlickers and Democrats currently stealing oxygen from our country.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:43 AM (yaeMF)

198 Digital cameras have come a long way, the Canons are great, even the dopey small point and shoots in the 100-200 range are capable of good photography. Case in point, at the Intrepid museum I was trying to take a picture of the Lego Intrepid with my camera and it didn't turn out due to my choosing wrong settings. The boy used his cheap Canon and got an amazing shot.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 14, 2014 11:43 AM (+0txR)

199 86 "A free market investment into a tech that will be required by law by the government. Brilliant. You can't think of a better business climate."

Not all that different than the way crony industrialists made $ under Hitler, I might have pointed out.

Posted by: forest at May 14, 2014 11:07 AM (stMuz)


You win, sir.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:43 AM (YT2it)

200 Well crap. Can't post the video link. But I'd love to have a smart gun. That's what Drake and Vasquez hauled around in 'Aliens'.

"Let's rock!"
- Vasquez

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at May 14, 2014 11:44 AM (BVTtz)

201 36 The best part of hollwood movies that center in NY or LA is when the actor hears a bump in the night and grabs a baseball bat and sneaks out of the bedroom in his undies.

I don't know where ya'll grew up, but in our neck of the woods a bump in the night is met with the sound of a OO buck round being chambered in the remington 870 or the mossberg.
Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:55 AM (x3YFz)

The most seen one like this isn't in a movie, but in a home security commercial. I would crack up every time I saw it.

If the husband hears an unfamiliar noise and isn't investigated with a gun in hand, the wife ought to start planning the funeral.

Posted by: every leftist government ever at May 14, 2014 11:44 AM (36Rjy)

202 Yes, I was referring to the goobers, windowlickers and Democrats currently stealing oxygen from our country.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 14, 2014 11:43 AM (yaeMF)

yup. solid copy.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:44 AM (x3YFz)

203 144 OT: Cat saves child from dog attack:

http://tinyurl.com/qc5l3yu
Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 11:28 AM (v0/PR)


Wow!

Nice kitteh!

Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2014 11:45 AM (zoehZ)

204 My gun is smarter than this hack. It's never misfired like him.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 14, 2014 11:45 AM (inH3k)

205 @192 - well, we know who the dog is, and we know we're the kid, but our feline GOP seems to be kinda stooging around looking to lick up a few drops of blood.

Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2014 11:46 AM (o+SC1)

206 Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (u2a4R)

Given the content of the author's tweets, I think it's fair to hold him in at least some of the blame.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:46 AM (HDwDg)

207
Guns are only as smart as the owner--no matter how they are configured.

I will still take my 1911, with both passive and active safeties.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 14, 2014 11:46 AM (SAMxH)

208 No doubt one of those Americans who believes he is much smarter than average.

Posted by: Kirk at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (GBnWt)

209 Much like guns, camera brands have their loyalists. For example, I think Canon has far superior optics to Nikon so all we get are Canon cameras.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (+0txR)

210 Well crap. Can't post the video link. But I'd love to have a smart gun. That's what Drake and Vasquez hauled around in 'Aliens'.



"Let's rock!"

- Vasquez

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at May 14, 2014 11:44 AM (BVTtz)

That smart gun didn't actually stop the user from firing it. It was more of an auto-aim assist because the gun was worn instead of being carried. The gun was mounted on a gimbal with servos that helped the user track targets and aim.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (GQ8sn)

211
Given the content of the author's tweets, I think it's fair to hold him in at least some of the blame.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:46 AM (HDwDg)


In the end, its his byline. It's his responsibility to stand up for himself if the editor misrepresents him.So, basically, fuck him.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (/29Nl)

212 I'm a dog person, but once an animal attacks a person in that manner without cause, it's 20 minutes of nature footage and classical music time.


Look at the flowers, Spot.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (aJd5W)

213
Given the content of the author's tweets, I think it's fair to hold him in at least some of the blame.
--------

I bet a HOA could get to the bottom of it!

Posted by: Adam at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (Aif/5)

214 OO buck round being chambered in the remington 870 or the mossberg.
------------------

*sigh*
I just can not get any respect in this place.

Posted by: Ithaca Model 37 at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (aDwsi)

215 In the end, its his byline. It's his responsibility to stand up for himself if the editor misrepresents him.So, basically, fuck him.


Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (/29Nl)


Well that too. I realized I didn't put that in there right after I hit post.

such is life.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 11:48 AM (HDwDg)

216 96 Interesting. Vic only has to take a big whiff of the barrell. Vic left graffiti on the original barrel amphora.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 14, 2014 11:09 AM (rt3TY)



Fixed it for you.

(Dear lord I hope I closed my tags)

Posted by: J. Random Dudes phone at May 14, 2014 11:49 AM (N5DcK)

217 I think Canon has far superior optics to Nikon so all we get are Canon cameras.

Posted by: Paranoid
------------

And that's when the fight started.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)

218 jwest chimes in with the daily idiocy .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 11:49 AM (whqez)

219 Windows 8 would make the perfect operating system for a smart gun

Posted by: Stuff Steve Ballmer would say and idiots would agree at May 14, 2014 11:50 AM (1vYi0)

220 as far as home security goes, I offer this:

4 dogs. Belgian Malinois or G Sheps.

You do not want to walk into my house uninvited.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:50 AM (x3YFz)

221 Canon vs Nikon


Longbow vs crossbows


Shag vs hardwood




It never ends...

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:50 AM (GQ8sn)

222
Clearly, God didn't install the smart person app for Yasha. or the integrity app.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2014 11:50 AM (hJauc)

223 Can we get that dog-attacking cat to run for office?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 14, 2014 11:50 AM (69uZ+)

224
Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (u2a4R)

right, because people who write balanced and fair articles about guns write tweets like "LOL NOW I'M GONNA HANG OUT WITH SARAH PALIN AND THE REST OF THE REDNECKS AT THE NRA"

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (GVzTZ)

225 Okay... I want you to know- I read that trash (the hack article).

I now feel about 10 IQ points dumber.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (PYAXX)

226 testing

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (A98Xu)

227 Always been a cat person.


There was a story out of Maine some years back about a lady who was attacked in her home by a would-be rapist.


Lady owned a cat. The cat did not take well to the intruder screwing with his owner, launched himself at the assailant, and, through Providence or just plan wily frantic Cat Scratch Action, ripped both the dude's eyeballs open.


Cats, man. Cats rule.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 14, 2014 11:52 AM (9LuAk)

228 That cat is kickass!!

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:52 AM (A98Xu)

229
I think Canon has far superior optics to Nikon so all we get are Canon cameras.

Nikon makes some very fine cameras and lenses. I use Canon because I have a lot of $$$ tied up in lenses and other equipment, plus I am obviously more familiar with Canon menu systems, etc.

I would happily recommend either without reservation.

BTW, Nikon 5100 > 3200.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 14, 2014 11:52 AM (qRDBx)

230 Fox Model B,side-by-side, 20 ga., discharged while carrying it on my shoulder. Cold beads of sweat followed. I was maybe 15. NEVER.FORGOTTEN.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:25 AM (aDwsi)


I had a delayed fire from chambering an old paper shell in a 20 guage when I was about 14. Went off when I was unshouldering the weapon.
Took me a few minutes to gain composure. My cousin was standing next to me.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (Fp7JI)

231 (Dear lord I hope I closed my tags)

You're OK, though it would have been hilarious to see someone go to the Barrel over a comment regarding the Barrel...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (rt3TY)

232 That picture he tweeted is his header and he tweeted during LaPierre's speech that he was in the "belly of the beast".

Just throwing that out there.

Posted by: Adam at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (Aif/5)

233 I don't know where ya'll grew up, but in our neck of the woods a bump in the night is met with the sound of a OO buck round being chambered in the remington 870 or the mossberg.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 10:55 AM (x3YFz)


I know I'm just a racist, sexist, xenophobic homophobe with toxic political tendencies and a persistent fantasy of extrajudicial justice and a purer past, but when I hear a bump in the night, I gear up exactly like Legolas -- bow & arrow, two swords, long hair, the whole deal.

So far, it's worked like a charm.

Until they mandate smart arrows, I guess.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (YT2it)

234 Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:42 AM (u2a4R)

Actually a good point....

There will always be idiots writing stuff... its the Editor's job to ensure that an idiots stuff does not get published....

But as we saw with that video of the Editor Board asking stupid questions of a Republican candidate (do you believe in the Easter Bunny?)....

Its the Editor's that driving this.

Writers will write whatever Editors will publish....

Posted by: Romeo13, Salty Sea Dog at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (84gbM)

235 Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (GVzTZ)

Stop confusing jwest with facts, you hater you.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 14, 2014 11:54 AM (wNF3N)

236 No doubt one of those Americans who believes he is much smarter than average.

Posted by: Kirk at May 14, 2014 11:47 AM (GBnWt)

Stupid people announce how smart they are. Smart people STFU.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:54 AM (x3YFz)

237 Okay... I want you to know- I read that trash (the hack article).



I now feel about 10 IQ points dumber.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (PYAXX)


Good on you. I couldn't make it.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:54 AM (/29Nl)

238 Comment 162 made me laugh.

Some dolts need to learn the hard way.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 11:54 AM (A98Xu)

239 gun: squirrel!

smart guns: Big Squirrels!

Hypocritical authoritarian concern for smart guns given the production and sales of armed robots pre-programmed with the "morals" of transnational corporate eugenicists.

As if The Terminator would or could repent to become your friendly Defender of Life, Liberty and Equality Under the Law.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 11:55 AM (gmrH5)

240 Canon, for digital.
Longbow.
Hardwood.
.45

But first, you will get off my lawn !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 14, 2014 11:55 AM (+jyzN)

241 Would i be correct that an EMP attack on the United States would render all these guns inoperable?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 11:55 AM (SO2Q8)

242 I know I'm just a racist, sexist, xenophobic
homophobe with toxic political tendencies and a persistent fantasy of
extrajudicial justice and a purer past, but when I hear a bump in the
night, I gear up exactly like Legolas -- bow arrow, two swords,
long hair, the whole deal.



So far, it's worked like a charm.



Until they mandate smart arrows, I guess.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (YT2it)


When you ride down the stairs on a shield firing arrows at the home invader....

....get video

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:55 AM (/29Nl)

243 215 "In the end, its his byline. It's his responsibility to stand up for himself if the editor misrepresents him.So, basically, fuck him."

The point is that there are a dozen Levines stacked up behind him ready to take his paid position, so it doesn't matter how hard you swat this particular fly.

As people like "awkward davies" stand and piss in the wind, others may want to make an actual difference.

Writers on the right should be contacting Lacy and Pando investors to ask for comments on the article and if they stand behind all the "facts" and characterizations presented.

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (u2a4R)

244 Crossbows are for assholes.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (YT2it)

245 Left wing writer writes for left wing rag with left wing editor .
Yeah, I'm sure his balanced article was sabotaged by his editor .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (whqez)

246 So I see JugEars is giving a speech today in NYC about "crumbling bridges" again and how we need another metric fuckton of cash from the year 2067 to fix them.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Messiah fixed all that shit when he descended to Earth in 2009.

The flop sweat around the WH is turning into a moat.

Posted by: B at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (Pson9)

247 jwest is such a persistent troll.

And he man's up and runs the gauntlet here on AoS so I can't not give him credit for being able to take a punch.

That doesn't mean he can wash my back in the shower.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (x3YFz)

248 Longbow vs crossbows.
----------

Okay, waaay OT.
We still have a lunch counter at the local pharmacy. The other day I was sitting next to an older lady (probably.., 75) and got to talking about local history & etc.

It turned out that as a young girl, she had been the NC Archery Champ. Her dad was the World Champion in 1957. She mentioned that she, her brother (who was also state boy champ) and her father had appeared on I've got a Secret. Yesterday I looked in Youtube, and sure enough, there it was.
FWIW: http://tinyurl.com/lgktgsx

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)

249
Good on you. I couldn't make it.


Yeah, any more when I see somebody saying, "read the whole POS article," I never do.

I need to protect the few brain cells I have remaining. The Guinness needs something to do...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 14, 2014 11:58 AM (0HooB)

250 Writers on the right should be contacting Lacy and
Pando investors to ask for comments on the article and if they stand
behind all the "facts" and characterizations presented.





Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (u2a4R)


Decent point, but not one that lets the author off the hook.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:58 AM (/29Nl)

251 Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (YT2it)


Oh..... crap....

Long hair.... check....

Multiple swords hanging on the wall... historical fencer.... yup...

45s instead of longbow but....


DAM! Am I a Legolas Wanna be???? Is that a Man Card violation?

Posted by: Romeo13, Salty Sea Dog at May 14, 2014 11:58 AM (84gbM)

252 It turned out that as a young girl, she had been the
NC Archery Champ. Her dad was the World Champion in 1957. She mentioned
that she, her brother (who was also state boy champ) and her father had
appeared on I've got a Secret. Yesterday I looked in Youtube, and sure
enough, there it was.

FWIW: http://tinyurl.com/lgktgsx



Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)

Nice.
This show brought you by Winston's.
"Me and my Winston's....we got a real gooood thing!"

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 11:59 AM (GQ8sn)

253 Greetings:

So Mr. Levine hasn't yet discovered the the connection between the NRA and climate warming/change/continuation ???

Posted by: 11B40 at May 14, 2014 11:59 AM (evgyj)

254 Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (x3YFz)

Yeah.... but he does have a point this time...

We should make fun of the writer... that's a given...

But his Editor and Publisher should also be taken to task for Professionally Publishing Crap.

Posted by: Romeo13, Salty Sea Dog at May 14, 2014 12:00 PM (84gbM)

255 .
And here we go..

remember two weeks ago when I said obama needs some wild fires?

Well, he's got em.

All the "news" is bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2014 12:01 PM (mjKr1)

256 Canon, for digital.
Longbow.
Hardwood.
.45

But first, you will get off my lawn !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 14, 2014 11:55 AM (+jyzN)

______________

You forgot Maryann

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 14, 2014 12:01 PM (32Ze2)

257 243 >> The point is that there are a dozen Levines stacked up behind him ready
to take his paid position, so it doesn't matter how hard you swat this
particular fly.

And there are a hundred Tina Browns stacked up behind this editor too, ready to take the much better paid editor's spot.

Or are you under the mistaken impression that there is a nationwide shortage of leftwing editors in the US?

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 14, 2014 12:01 PM (wNF3N)

258 244 Crossbows are for assholes.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (YT2it)


WE Agree!

Posted by: Richard the Lionheart, pulling a French Bolt out of his eye at May 14, 2014 12:01 PM (84gbM)

259 36. tangonine

TV series Under The Dome, the cafe owner was clubbed to death with her "self defense" baseball bat (because they could).

TV Showtime series, Ray Donovan, the strong man tells the stalked woman to get a dog, not a gun, since she and her limp brain functioned like a wet noodle in the best of circumstances, tralala, let alone under duress.


Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (gmrH5)

260 rdbrewer put the cat video in the sidebar with a link to the story:



BAKERSFIELD - A cat came to her best friend's rescue Tuesday when the young boy was attacked in his driveway in Southwest Bakersfield.

The surveillance video shows the boy playing on his bicycle when a dog sneaks up behind him and grabs his leg.

The family's cat, named Tara, rushes the attacking dog and chased it away.

The boy's mother told 23ABC the boy needed a few stitches, but he is doing fine this morning.

She also said the dog belonged to a neighbor and is now under observation.

23ABC will be hearing from the boy, the mother and the cat later in the day.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (v0/PR)

261

So...

what's next for Lois Lerner?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (mjKr1)

262 You forgot Maryann


and Pollock!

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (XCLgZ)

263 Okay... I want you to know- I read that trash (the hack article).
---
Me too, i was pleased that John E. picked things for the updates that also set off alarm bells for me.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 12:03 PM (SO2Q8)

264 Decent point, but not one that lets the author off the hook.


Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 11:58 AM (/29Nl)


What I'm saying is that the author is a nothing and a total waste of time.

If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get a bit of action.

Focus on what is important, not some little twit.

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 12:03 PM (u2a4R)

265 I know I'm just a racist, sexist, xenophobic homophobe with toxic political tendencies and a persistent fantasy of extrajudicial justice and a purer past, but when I hear a bump in the night, I gear up exactly like Legolas -- bow & arrow, two swords, long hair, the whole deal.



Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:53 AM (YT2it)

you could have just said you're white.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:04 PM (x3YFz)

266 Posted by: GnuBreed at May 14, 2014 12:01 PM (wNF3N)

Then you need to go after the people who chose the Editors...

The largest problem we have with the media, is the Lefts OWNERSHIP of it.

Every major media outlet... Fox included... is part of the Crony Capitalist set up....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:04 PM (84gbM)

267
the dog is "under observation? "

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2014 12:05 PM (mjKr1)

268 Interesting and worth noting on the political ramifications of "possible" Google ranking tactics.

I did a Google search NEWS for "Sarah Palin". Top of the list was a Palin appearance at a Alabama high school commencment. Nothing on the first page about the Sasse win in NE. I then did a "Ted Cruz Senator" and the same for Mike Lee. Articles related to their endorsements of Sasse appeared on the first page. Then a search was performed for "Sarah Palin Sasse" Article count result: 685 At least the first four pages were solid Sasse - Palin.

Interesting.


Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:05 PM (JBggj)

269 Shorter jwest .
Stop punching down!

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 12:05 PM (whqez)

270 Oh..... crap....

Long hair.... check....

Multiple swords hanging on the wall... historical fencer.... yup...

45s instead of longbow but....

DAM! Am I a Legolas Wanna be???? Is that a Man Card violation?

Posted by: Romeo13, Salty Sea Dog at May 14, 2014 11:58 AM (84gbM)


Because of your gear? No. But at this point, the final answer on your manliness quotient depends entirely on the amount of meat your diet and music preferences.

And body count, of course.

And Viking paraphernalia.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 12:06 PM (YT2it)

271 totalitarian sock off

Posted by: baldilocks at May 14, 2014 12:06 PM (36Rjy)

272 Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)


That is awesome, thanks for sharing that.

Pop gets 3 cartons of cigarettes and the kids get cash.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:06 PM (/29Nl)

273 >> Bob Owens, Andy and a lot of the commenters here are blaming Yasha Levine for this article. For all we know, Levine may have written a totally acurate, fair and balanced piece for publication.

Hahahahahaha. You're fucking killing me.

Go back and look at the original piece Levine wrote and his tweets before and during the NRAAM and tell me again how this is probably just a case of bad editing.

The article was written before he ever left SFO, and the NRAAM really just serves as a prop in the story.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:06 PM (C/NnJ)

274 You forgot Maryann


and Pollock!

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (XCLgZ)

__________________

Boxers!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 14, 2014 12:07 PM (32Ze2)

275 36. tangonine

TV series Under The Dome, the cafe owner was clubbed to death with her "self defense" baseball bat (because they could).

TV Showtime series, Ray Donovan, the strong man tells the stalked woman to get a dog, not a gun, since she and her limp brain functioned like a wet noodle in the best of circumstances, tralala, let alone under duress.


Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:02 PM (gmrH5)

LOL... yep.

look, where I live, we have a 70 year old woman that owns a convenience store. She open carries a .357.

Her kids help out and also carry. Every time I go in there for milk or cheezy puffs, we play the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" game.

And then other customers come in, buy coffee and lo and behold it's a gun show.

I like this place.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:07 PM (x3YFz)

276 Yes, let's make this about editors and not about the douche who wrote the crap. Ridiculous.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (A98Xu)

277 I now feel about 10 IQ points dumber.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 14, 2014 11:51 AM (PYAXX)

Read some of the comments and make it another 10 or 20.

Did you know we didn't personally know any of the authors of The Constitution so it is null and void?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (fWAjv)

278 Posted by: tangonine
Posted by: grammie winger
----
why is it i keep reading you names as
Tangerine Grammy Winner

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (SO2Q8)

279 And Viking paraphernalia.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 12:06 PM (YT2it)


Damn.... no Viking.... Longsword... Bastard Sword... LOTS of Rapiers (style I competed in)... Sabers...

But I do eat a LOT of meat.... on a Caveman diet...

And I do wear me kilt Regimental....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (84gbM)

280 267


the dog is "under observation? "

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2014 12:05 PM (mjKr1)

Animal Control, verifying vaccinations, testing for rabies. If a rabid dog, to be put down, whether the owner likes that or not. If healthy but a bad dog, its owner to be fined, whatever else according to city ordinance. Certainly to be held financially accountable for the victim's medical treatment.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:09 PM (gmrH5)

281
Bwahaha. The French. Always good for a laugh. 500 days to avoid climate chaos. (drudge)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2014 12:09 PM (hJauc)

282 How is this choad's crass mischarachterization, lying and hostility not grounds for dismissal? Are any of the numerous journalists fired for plagiarism, making up stories or harassing sources worse that this idiot?

Journalism is so corrupt, as a profession, that it effectively *does not* exist at this point. We have apparently passed the point where no malfeasance other than disobedience to their masters is enough.

MFM delenda est. Because this behavior is not uncommon enough for it to be useful to anyone but political paymasters.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:09 PM (qyfb5)

283 Tangerine

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (SO2Q

Not the first time it's happened.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (x3YFz)

284 When someone that owns a multi-million dollar laser needs a photocopier, they call Canon.

When they need lenses for the laser, they call Nikon.

Canon's optics may be superior in the low end, but for high end stuff (like most of the glass in my camera bag), Nikon all the way.

Posted by: akula51 at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (6LDr1)

285 Cold Steel sells a replica Viking sword.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (JBggj)

286 >> If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get a bit of action.

Again, hahahahahahaha.

You really think they're interested in giving their readers anything other than exactly what they gave them here?

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (C/NnJ)

287 If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative
of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record
reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get
a bit of action.


Now that is a good idea.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (GVzTZ)

288 Yasa Levine is clearly Jewish.

So why doesn't he ask why Israel, with some of the best weapons manufacturers in the world, hasn't come up with a "smart gun"?

Well?


Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 12:11 PM (0FSuD)

289 Anybody who has ever cursed their cell phone knows why you won't buy a "smart gun"...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 14, 2014 12:11 PM (XO6WW)

290 Canon's optics may be superior in the low end, but
for high end stuff (like most of the glass in my camera bag), Nikon all
the way.

Posted by: akula51 at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (6LDr1)


I've got a Nikon microscope with a laser! Nikon makes really good optics.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (GQ8sn)

291 Canon's optics may be superior in the low end, but
for high end stuff (like most of the glass in my camera bag), Nikon all
the way.

Posted by: akula51 at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (6LDr1)

Or Zeiss, if you got the money.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (0FSuD)

292 283 Tangerine

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (SO2Q

Not the first time it's happened.
Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (x3YFz)


That's my favorite nickname for you.

Posted by: Mindy at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (rJGKS)

293 If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative
of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record
reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get
a bit of action.


Now that is a good idea.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (GVzTZ)

No. Ace doesn't go to them. They come here.

You never reach out to stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (x3YFz)

294 "Go back and look at the original piece Levine wrote and his tweets before and during the NRAAM and tell me again how this is probably just a case of bad editing."

Andy, I know Levine wrote the article. But is we were the smart party, we would be doing what the left does all the time - make every person even remotely associated with this article either condemn it or totally back it.

A small time hack like Levine can write things like this because he has nothing to lose. The editor needs to have some credibility and the investors have even more to lose.

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (u2a4R)

295 So why doesn't he ask why Israel, with some of the best weapons manufacturers in the world, hasn't come up with a "smart gun"?


Because smart guns aren't Kosher?

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (GQ8sn)

296 285 Cold Steel sells a replica Viking sword.


Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:10 PM (JBggj)



Yeah.... but as someone who has played with swords for about 30 years? There was a reason the Saber was the last Sword that was widely used by Militarys... (unless I'm trying to get through plate armor... in which case I'm bringing a Halberd anyway...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (84gbM)

297 >>>Did you know we didn't personally know any of the authors of The Constitution so it is null and void?
Posted by: RWC

Did you also know that the original Constitution was lost on the Santa Maria and now that the wreck has found shows that the "1787" version is totally invalid.

Posted by: Stuff Yasha Levine would say and idiots would agree at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (1vYi0)

298
I like this place.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:07 PM (x3YFz)

I'd feel safe there, as well.
Oh, came across this random "swastika in my coffee" earlier, and wonder if the laws of physics illustrate the same in toilets...hehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QCoCqweeE

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (gmrH5)

299 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QCoCqweeE

cheese

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (gmrH5)

300 They aren't for "smart guns" any more than they are for regular guns. They are anti-gun. They just see "smart guns" as being a rhetorical device that can't be argued against, and a way to get the camel's nose in the tent.

They happen to be wrong, but that's what they think.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (/29Nl)

301 Ok I give. Nikon has great optics too. But the Civil War wasn't just fought because of slavery and that is my final opinion.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (+0txR)

302 That's my favorite nickname for you.

Posted by: Mindy at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (rJGKS)

but I look nothing like a tangerine! Ok, a little bit but not orangey!

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:14 PM (x3YFz)

303 Damn.... no Viking.... Longsword... Bastard Sword... LOTS of Rapiers (style I competed in)... Sabers...

But I do eat a LOT of meat.... on a Caveman diet...

And I do wear me kilt Regimental....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:08 PM (84gbM)


You're probably safe. Just stay away from anything with unicorn themes or Celtic harp music.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 12:14 PM (YT2it)

304 If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get a bit of action.

Yes because they so wouldn't immediately claim that icky KKK rightwingers are harassing them for speaking "Truth to Power."

Posted by: nnptcgrad at May 14, 2014 12:14 PM (BD6xj)

305 >> make every person even remotely associated with this article either condemn it or totally back it.

They'll totally back it.

They're giving their audience what it wants, no different than MSNBC.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (C/NnJ)

306 7. (Yeah I'm reading the comments so 7)
The real world consequences of that? I missed hearing about my team scoring a run.

I'm tossing the bullshit flag on AtC
Her team is the cubbies....scoring a run?
Yeah right

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (OF3aH)

307 But the Civil War wasn't just fought because of slavery and that is my final opinion.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (+0txR)

Lee surrendered, we didn't.

For those watching at home? The south never forgets and the civil war isn't over, it's just a long cease fire.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (x3YFz)

308 Yeah.... but as someone who has played with swords
for about 30 years? There was a reason the Saber was the last Sword
that was widely used by Militarys... (unless I'm trying to get through
plate armor... in which case I'm bringing a Halberd anyway...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM
=======
Concur. The halberd in the hands of a well-trained conquistador was superb infantry weapon.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (JBggj)

309 Grognard @ 300 ... exactly!

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:16 PM (C/NnJ)

310 The prevailing nickelfuckery that kept me from being able to see the Mencken quote and the Ace of Spades Skull and Crossbones while in Firefox and Pale Moon seems to have ended with that Pixy meltdown the other day.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:16 PM (LJ7Ze)

311 (unless I'm trying to get through plate armor... in which case I'm bringing a Halberd anyway...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (84gbM)

4-6 lb mace.
I have a battle axe with a really nice 6" back spike, but it'd get stuck in plate armor.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:16 PM (/29Nl)

312 17
What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Marry my daughter"? These
are the people of the East. The common clay of New York City. You
know--morons.

Trivia note: In the first release of Blazing Saddles, that punchline was "assholes." It was redubbed for later releases.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 14, 2014 12:16 PM (XO6WW)

313 Mr. Levine obviously lusts for a top-tier gig in the (yet to be announced) Ministry of Truth.

The sad reality is that he's barely qualified to be a Memory Hole Attendant...

Flatworms have a better shot at inventing Contra-grav propulsion than the average liberal has at grasping the import of the Constitution.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 14, 2014 12:17 PM (lJaja)

314 Conservatives often say freedom of religion has been corrupted. That we have in effect installed a religion of secular humanism under that Amendment's cloak. In part, they're right (except that i'd define it as Progressivism, including a number of tenets like Climate Change which aren't humanist at all).

Here we find that freedom of speech has been corrupted. We have a state answerable to Big Information, whose propagandists are steering the democratic process. The politicians have to please the propagandists.

Suddenly King George III doesn't look so bad, apart from the whole talking to trees thing.

Posted by: boulder t' hobo at May 14, 2014 12:18 PM (qMd2B)

315 Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:13 PM (/29Nl)


Its more insidious than that.... as we see in California.

They are trying to do a number of things.

1. Make guns more expensive.
2. Make you register your 'new' gun.
3. Make it so only a very few gun manufacturers can play.
4. They will then make any NON Smart gun, illegal...

Its all about taking guns out of the hands of the Legal Populace.... so when the State Ends (as all states will)... they have a Monopoly on Violence so THEY will control what comes after.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:18 PM (84gbM)

316 Jwest is right (yeah, sounds funny to me, too). If Ace or one of the Cobs managed to actually get through to the editors or investors (they will ignore messages) and make them comment on the record, it could either create a tiny morsel of shame (or give more meat for a new article about how complicit they are).

Unfortunately, the far left (very deliberately) has control of all the biggest megaphones.

Worth a try.

Andy and John in particular have first-person accounts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (qyfb5)

317
244 Crossbows are for assholes.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (YT2it)






Pluck yew!

Posted by: Zombie Henry V at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (TIIx5)

318 Enjoying jwest's "don't jump to conclusions" condescension while he's doing the same to us.

We spoke to Levine at length. We read both his articles, the first of which he spoke of during our conversation. We went back through his Twitter timeline to see what he said before, during and after the NRAAM.

Thanks for the useless contrarian drivel jwest, but I think we have a pretty good handle on who exactly this guy is and what his personal views are on the subject here.

Posted by: JohnE. at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (nRTou)

319
You never reach out to stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:12 PM (x3YFz)

That was my conclusion, as well. Petitioning brain dead zombies to resurrect anew. Exercise in futility, calling on brains that REFUSE logic to be reasonable.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (gmrH5)

320 I think Canon has far superior optics to Nikon so all we get are Canon cameras.

And so it begins.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (QupBk)

321 I have a battle axe with a really nice 6" back spike, but it'd get stuck in plate armor.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:16 PM (/29Nl)

por vou, the CQC combat axe (note: no one gets knife kills, or axe kills in combat anymore, but it's just cool)

http://tinyurl.com/oa9vdkn

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (x3YFz)

322 288 Yasa Levine is clearly Jewish.

So why doesn't he ask why Israel, with some of the best weapons manufacturers in the world, hasn't come up with a "smart gun"?

Well?


Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 12:11 PM (0FSuD)

Thanks.


spends the remainder of the workday looking at IDF Babes.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)

323 For those watching at home? The south never forgets and the civil war isn't over, it's just a long cease fire.
---
You'd have better odds next time around.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 12:20 PM (SO2Q8)

324 I wonder if the Liberal Party of Canada knows that they're advertising on a site full of people that exhibit "rabid xenophobia, racism, longing for a purer past, the glorification of
extrajudicial justice against a creeping threat from within tendencies
that are not all that different than the bile that brought Hitler to
power."


Oh well, I clicked the ad, listened to the promises of the Liberals and sent them an email address.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 14, 2014 12:20 PM (AC0lD)

325 Mind you, that's a minefield of "ifs."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:20 PM (qyfb5)

326 What I'm saying is that the author is a nothing and a total waste of time.

If the "Conservative Blog of the Year" contacted the PR representative of Accel Partners and Menlo Ventures and asked for on the record reaction to the characterizations in the article, you might start to get a bit of action.

Focus on what is important, not some little twit.

Posted by: jwest


Bullshit. The writer announced his intentions prior to the NRA meet, and it's his fucking byline on the libelous, error ridden piece of shit.

Go on and tell us the writer will refuse payment for it. Go on and do that, dumbass, because the hole you're standing in can't get any deeper.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2014 12:21 PM (nZiT2)

327 305 >> make every person even remotely associated with this article either condemn it or totally back it.

They'll totally back it.

They're giving their audience what it wants, no different than MSNBC.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (C/NnJ)



Menlo Ventures - "There is no greater asset than character"

Carbonite is a portfolio company.

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 12:21 PM (u2a4R)

328 Advertising? Advertising where?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:22 PM (LJ7Ze)

329 But the Civil War wasn't just fought because of slavery and that is my final opinion.

But that's unpossible!

Despite the fact that 1.4% of Southerners owned slaves, 100% of Southerners were racist rebels bent on assassinating Abe"Pureheart"Lincoln and chaining black folks.

I have been educated.


Posted by: noone, really at May 14, 2014 12:22 PM (LSaM1)

330 I think Canon has far superior optics to Nikon so all we get are Canon cameras.

And so it begins.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (QupBk)

Pics taken by a retard (me) using a Cannon EOS. Even I cant F it up:

http://greyttimes.com/?p=515

(creepy churles pony tail vibe just hit me!)

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:22 PM (x3YFz)

331 spends the remainder of the workday looking at IDF Babes.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)


There goes the day!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

332 The Pentax Takumar lenses are worth every penny.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:23 PM (JBggj)

333 Posted by: JohnE. at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (nRTou)

People spend an inordinate amount of time explaining things to you, don't they?

Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 12:23 PM (u2a4R)

334 Thanks for the useless contrarian drivel jwest, but I think we have a pretty good handle on who exactly this guy is and what his personal views are on the subject here.
Posted by: JohnE. at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (nRTou)

----

soooooo...... a $25K smart gun voucher is out of the question?????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (nELVU)

335 Come witness the firepower of AdBlock Plus.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (LJ7Ze)

336 Well the point is that this Yasha guy is going to be a leftist prick no matter what. He isn't going to be contrite or remorseful that he wrote a stereotype-filled hackworthy screed against "the others". The people who write the paychecks though may not want to so closely associate themselves with such a direct anti-gun agenda. Sure just looking at Pando's investors page, they are all silicon valley tech geek type firms and people so they are probably on board the leftist anti-gun train too. But do they really want to so publicly declare such loud public support when it may affect their bottom lines? Most of those people are really in it just to make money, and the politics is just a sideshow. Once the politics starts affecting their ability to make money, I really doubt they will pick politics over money.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (GVzTZ)

337 Okay, waaay OT.
We still have a lunch counter at the local pharmacy. The other day I was sitting next to an older lady (probably.., 75) and got to talking about local history & etc.

It turned out that as a young girl, she had been the NC Archery Champ. Her dad was the World Champion in 1957. She mentioned that she, her brother (who was also state boy champ) and her father had appeared on I've got a Secret. Yesterday I looked in Youtube, and sure enough, there it was.
FWIW: http://tinyurl.com/lgktgsx
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 14, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)

That is freaking awesome!

Posted by: baldilocks at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (36Rjy)

338 Canon's optics may be superior in the low end, but for high end stuff
(like most of the glass in my camera bag), Nikon all the way.


You wish.

Posted by: Carl Zeiss at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (pgQxn)

339 And thus, that one tiny moment of "right" on the part of jwest evaporates like morning dew in the Sahara...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (qyfb5)

340 Writers on the right should be contacting Lacy and Pando investors to ask for comments on the article and if they stand behind all the "facts" and characterizations presented.



Posted by: jwest at May 14, 2014 11:56 AM (u2a4R)


I took a quote from the article way back at the top.
They basically admit that Pando is propaganda for a smart gun booster/investor.

Editors will publish what people will pay for.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (HDwDg)

341 spends the remainder of the workday looking at IDF Babes.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)

There goes the day!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

no kidding.

bunk.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (x3YFz)

342 Ima hold out for the smart plasma rifle , until then , I'll stick with the hundred plus year old tech of my 1911 among others.

Care and feeding of a 1911 is just too much for me. I hate that you have to do all sorts of tinkering with it just to get it to feed properly. A $600 off the shelf probably needs a port polish at a minimum.

I hate that you need a tool to break it down. I hate that you have all sorts of weird carry configurations. Cocked and locked? I don't like that a 1911 actually CAN fire if you drop it. I don't like that it's actually pretty easy to fire two shots when you mean to fire one.

My H&K P2000 and my Sig Sauer P229 don't have any of that crap. They go bang when I pull the trigger and I can break it down for cleaning in about three seconds. That's it.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (l5wxK)

343 Jwest's dream: two chickens. At the same time.

Posted by: boulder t' hobo at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (qMd2B)

344 328
Advertising? Advertising where?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:22 PM (LJ7Ze)Main page.

spends the remainder of the workday looking at IDF Babes.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)
Do you have an url for that? There used to be an amazing site of hot military women from around the world but the guy had bandwidth issues. Too bad. Amazing pics...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (AC0lD)

345 333. !!!!!
Breaks out popcorn

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (OF3aH)

346
333
Posted by: JohnE. at May 14, 2014 12:19 PM (nRTou)



People spend an inordinate amount of time explaining things to you, don't they?


And he has the ability to listen to and comprehend what they are saying.

So there's your difference.

Posted by: noone, really at May 14, 2014 12:26 PM (LSaM1)

347 They'll totally back it.



They're giving their audience what it wants, no different than MSNBC.


FORCE them to so publicly and loudly back it, then. Right now they get away with having it both ways.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:26 PM (GVzTZ)

348 335 Come witness the firepower of AdBlock Plus.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (LJ7Ze)


Speakin' of this....since switching to the Pale Moon browser I have to load it twice. The first time I load it, all the ads appear. I have to close it and open it again for Adblock plus to kick it. Odd.

Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (v0/PR)

349 >> We spoke to Levine at length. We read both his articles, the first of which he spoke of during our conversation. We went back through his Twitter timeline to see what he said before, during and after the NRAAM.

And we speculated for days about just how bad a hackish piece of shit the follow-up article would be while holding out a little hope that he might actually report the conversation we had with him.

But, yeah, this is all a case of bad editing.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (C/NnJ)

350 So, LeBron James and others are threatening not to play next year unless both Sterlings are removed from the Clippers org.

Wouldn't those little things called CONTRACTS kinda mean that they have to play?

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (7ObY1)

351 Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:24 PM (GVzTZ)

The Left has weaponized contribution lists.

Should we not do the same?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (84gbM)

352 Heh...sidebar cat is teh awesome.

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (M+evy)

353 BTW, Nikon makes only one killer lens, the 14-24. So good that Canon folks get adapters for it.

Otherwise, my 24-70 f2.8 II has higher resolving power than the D800e can use (see lensrentals.com N vs C comparison) - too bad the EOS doesn't have the megapixels to take advantage of it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (pgQxn)

354 I hate that you need a tool to break it down. I hate that you have all
sorts of weird carry configurations. Cocked and locked? I don't like
that a 1911 actually CAN fire if you drop it. I don't like that it's
actually pretty easy to fire two shots when you mean to fire one.



Ummm...you don't need a tool to take down a 1911. And modern 1911's have firing pin blocks.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (GQ8sn)

355 Did Mr. Moo Moo change his nick?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:28 PM (LJ7Ze)

356 How do you make a black powder muzzle-loader smart? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Fritz at May 14, 2014 12:28 PM (UzPAd)

357 por vou, the CQC combat axe (note: no one gets knife kills, or axe kills in combat anymore, but it's just cool)



Oh, that's purty, T9.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (/29Nl)

358 Talking to reporters is a waste of time.

They are all ideologues and shills. Anything you say to them will be lied about. Refuse to even talk to them.

If they insist, punch them in the throat. If they don't insist, punch them in the throat anyway.

Posted by: Kristophr at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (0zVEV)

359 There goes the day!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

Amazon sell IV drips?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (fWAjv)

360 58 Yasha Levine writing about guns is as appropriate as me writing about eyeliner.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 14, 2014 11:00 AM (sBUAE)

Yasha Levine writing about eyeliner, on the other hand, would be perfectly appropriate.

Posted by: Chandler's Ghost at May 14, 2014 12:30 PM (2BL9N)

361 Amazon sell IV drips?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (fWAjv)


*mainlines Gatorade*

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:30 PM (GQ8sn)

362 348 No problems here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:31 PM (LJ7Ze)

363 356 How do you make a black powder muzzle-loader smart? Asking for a friend.


Posted by: Fritz at May 14, 2014 12:28 PM (UzPAd)


East! You transition from a Muzzle Loading 12 Lbs. Napoleon.... to a breech loading Parrot!!!

(that you of course captured from those damn Yankees!)

Posted by: Sgt. Beuregard Ramey, Confederate Artillery at May 14, 2014 12:31 PM (84gbM)

364 354 modern 1911's have firing pin blocks.

Really? I know my Springfield and T's Kimber don't

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 14, 2014 12:31 PM (OF3aH)

365 Don't want to waste time reading the crap, but did he use the phrase baby-killer? They give extra points for that.

Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2014 12:31 PM (VndSC)

366 >> But do they really want to so publicly declare such loud public support when it may affect their bottom lines?

A San Fran based tech publication that knew their audience well enough to serve this turd up in 2 helpings? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say a conservative backlash would be about as damaging to them as a gay boycott of Chick-Fil-A.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:32 PM (C/NnJ)

367 I get that 500 error on occasion. The gerbils need additional training.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:32 PM (LJ7Ze)

368 You can make a gun smart by shooting at stupid.

Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2014 12:32 PM (VndSC)

369
Boxers!

Commando.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 14, 2014 12:33 PM (JtwS4)

370 Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:27 PM (C/NnJ)

Again, to the extent that jwest is right (i.e. that publishers publishing this shit is part of the problem) that's not an easily solvable problem since the guy paying the publishers has a vested interest in ginning up this controversy to fuel his investments.

Call this what it is: Propaganda, not Journalism.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 12:33 PM (HDwDg)

371 345 333. !!!!!
Breaks out popcorn
Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (OF3aH)

Hey, squid! Pass that bowl over here, would you?

Posted by: baldilocks at May 14, 2014 12:33 PM (36Rjy)

372 The Cannon v Nikon debate.

Nikon lenses next, to Zeiss and Lecia, have always been the standard.

There was a time 20 years ago that Cannon beat out Nikon with their stabilization lenses and Nikon had to work to catch up. They have caught up.

I use to hire photographers and both lenses are good. I am a Nikon guy since all my lenses will fit on my cameras, even my 30 year old 300mm 2.8.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 12:33 PM (0FSuD)

373 A San Fran based tech publication that knew their
audience well enough to serve this turd up in 2 helpings? I'm gonna go
out on a limb here and say a conservative backlash would be about as
damaging to them as a gay boycott of Chick-Fil-A.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:32 PM (C/NnJ)

I have no doubt that the reporters, editors, and the entire publication staff are all on board the anti-gun train.
I"m talking about the investors.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:34 PM (GVzTZ)

374 @346 was for jwest.

JohnE et. al. did a great job exposing a hack in full hackery....hackage...hackaction?

whatever

Posted by: noone, really at May 14, 2014 12:34 PM (LSaM1)

375
They are all ideologues and shills. Anything you say to them will be lied about. Refuse to even talk to them.

If they insist, punch them in the throat. If they don't insist, punch them in the throat anyway.

Posted by: Kristophr at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (0zVEV)









I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2014 12:35 PM (TIIx5)

376 >> Call this what it is: Propaganda, not Journalism.

That's correct. Which is why I said I was using the term "journalist" loosely way up there in the post.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:35 PM (C/NnJ)

377 I have no doubt that the reporters, editors, and the entire publication staff are all on board the anti-gun train.
I"m talking about the investors.

Posted by: chemjeff


Which has worked so well for us seeing how MSNBC has no investors anymore.

Oh, wait.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2014 12:35 PM (nZiT2)

378 Smart guns aren't Kosher. They don't work.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (0FSuD)

379
Boxers!

Commando.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 14, 2014 12:33 PM (JtwS4)








Boxer Briefs. The RINOs of men's underwear.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (TIIx5)

380 Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:32 PM (C/NnJ

Let's be real, in the pantheon of Tech writing sites (Ars, TechCrunch, etc) this site barely scores a "Vox.com."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (HDwDg)

381 A quick Google search showed this guy to be a contributor to the S.H.A.M.E. Project (Shame the Hacks who Abuse Media Ethics). Absolutely no self-awateness whatsoever.

Posted by: Motorhead at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (GLNrT)

382

Not ot get into a pissin match.... but.... dont Kimbers use the Schwartz firing pin block??? (Grip)

Posted by: fixerupper at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (nELVU)

383 Ummm...you don't need a tool to take down a 1911. And modern 1911's have firing pin blocks.

I'm talking about twisting that part above the recoil spring plug, at the barrel face. Sorry, don't know what you call it. You can do it by hand, but I think it's a pain in the butt.

I didn't know about the firing pin block. I guess the old-timer who told me never to drop a 1911 didn't either. Good to know.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:37 PM (l5wxK)

384 Which has worked so well for us seeing how MSNBC has no investors anymore.



How many do they really need?

*strokes white cat*

Posted by: Soros at May 14, 2014 12:37 PM (LSaM1)

385 Care and feeding of a 1911 is just too much for me. I hate that you have to do all sorts of tinkering with it just to get it to feed properly. A $600 off the shelf probably needs a port polish at a minimum.

I hate that you need a tool to break it down. I hate that you have all sorts of weird carry configurations. Cocked and locked? I don't like that a 1911 actually CAN fire if you drop it. I don't like that it's actually pretty easy to fire two shots when you mean to fire one.

My H&K P2000 and my Sig Sauer P229 don't have any of that crap. They go bang when I pull the trigger and I can break it down for cleaning in about three seconds. That's it.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (l5wxK)

I have a p2000 also and a 229! GMTA.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:37 PM (x3YFz)

386 >> I"m talking about the investors.

Presume the investors know what they're invested in.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:37 PM (C/NnJ)

387 And modern 1911's have firing pin blocks.


I inherited a Kimber Raptor II. Does that have the block? Off to the Googles.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (l5wxK)

388 I have no doubt that the reporters, editors, and the entire publication staff are all on board the anti-gun train.
I"m talking about the investors.


Posted by: chemjeff at May 14, 2014 12:34 PM (GVzTZ)


See my quote above, one of the site's investors is also investing in "Smart Gun" tech.

When I say this is a "vox.com" I mean that more than a mockery of Vox.
Just like GE funds Vox to push it's green energy agenda via a "legitimate" source, Pando's pushing this guy's smart gun legislation agenda.

It's not unlike the ghost writing problem that plagued medical journals just a few years ago.
Pay a 3rd party to write something that pushes your interests then pretend it's from a neutral source.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (HDwDg)

389 You had me @2
But by all means, lets frame the debate on whether the technology is reliable.

Posted by: NYC Parent at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (HEo6y)

390 Only a crossbow enthusiast would use a Nikon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (LJ7Ze)

391 307. Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:15 PM (x3YFz)

Ah, yes, the war between the states, the war of Northern Aggression.

You might have seen, I posted this the other day, having followed F. Bastiat's wiki entry to Molinari's.

Bastiat's Tomb: Bastiat died in Rome and is buried at San Luigi dei Francesi in the center of that city. He declared on his deathbed that his friend Gustave de Molinari (publisher of Bastiat's 1850 book The Law) was his spiritual heir.

"In his last work, published a year before his death in 1912, Molinari never relented:


The American Civil War had not been simply a humanitarian crusade to free the slaves. The war
"ruined the conquered provinces", but the Northern plutocrats pulling
the strings achieved their aim: the imposition of a vicious
protectionism that led ultimately "to the regime of trusts and produced
the billionaires."
[Molinari, before revisionism usurped words to convolute into opposite game antics to thwart language, learning, records, and communication.]


For those readers here uninitiated in French brilliance, remember Lafayette; read, live and learn of Jeffersonian-Jacksonian disciples abroad. I'm not alone unwilling to be represented by the likes of Yasha Levine in world opinion of Americans, after all.


Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:39 PM (gmrH5)

392 Boxer Briefs. The RINOs of men's underwear.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2014 12:36 PM (TIIx5)

Never did the boxer thing. The fun bits of me are happier being snuggled up by underarmour briefs.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:39 PM (x3YFz)

393 http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 12:39 PM (gmrH5)

394 337 That was excellent!

Posted by: votermom at May 14, 2014 12:40 PM (GSIDW)

395 DOUCHEBAG GONNA DOUCHE.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 14, 2014 12:40 PM (wtvvX)

396 I inherited a Kimber Raptor II. Does that have the block? Off to the Googles.
======
The Colts do. Block or no block depends on the manufacturer and/or model.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:40 PM (JBggj)

397 The Colts do. Series 80 and later.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:41 PM (JBggj)

398 I'm talking about twisting that part above the
recoil spring plug, at the barrel face. Sorry, don't know what you call
it. You can do it by hand, but I think it's a pain in the butt.



I didn't know about the firing pin block. I guess the old-timer who told me never to drop a 1911 didn't either. Good to know.



Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:37 PM (l5wxK)


The barrel bushing. It's not hard to do. Just a little practice and care with the plug to keep it from flying off into the sunset.
The older Series 70 type 1911's and copies do not have the block because the original design didn't have them either. The more modern 1911 re-designs have them on certain makes and models.

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:41 PM (GQ8sn)

399
Disassembly of a 1911 is a lot easier if you remove the slide stop first (pull the slide back about 1/8" first, push out the pin from the right side, release slide and it comes right off the frame). Once the slide assembly is off the frame, everything practically falls out for you.

It's not the US Army/John Browning (PBUH) approved method, but it works just fine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (TIIx5)

400 Aren't the older Kimbers better than the newer Kimbers now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (LJ7Ze)

401 Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 14, 2014 12:25 PM (OF3aH)

e-mail me for the patches, ya squid.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (x3YFz)

402 I used to handle trial presentations using some fairly sophisticated trial technology. I always made sure to have hard copy backups of all exhibits, pictures, etc. as well. Why? Because tech breaks. Power goes out. Monitors go wonky. You know what doesn't break (unless I trip and fall on top of it)? That 30x40 poster board blow up of the photo of the accident scene.

I bring this up for no reason whatsoever.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (mf5HN)

403 >> Just like GE funds Vox to push it's green energy agenda via a "legitimate" source, Pando's pushing this guy's smart gun legislation agenda.

Yup.

I actually give the guy a point for disclosing that and not making me dig to find out the connection.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (C/NnJ)

404 Instead of wasting my time arguing with jwest, I'm going to argue with his wife.

Posted by: Fussy Dorkstick at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (MbqmP)

405 Boxer briefs make me a RINO?

(checks inside pants) AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRGH! I am a RINO!

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 12:43 PM (7ObY1)

406 I have a p2000 also and a 229! GMTA.

No way! I love them. Got them both in .40. Reliable, accurate, and zero issues. I tend to stick with the P2000 because the trigger pull is different enough between the two that I want it to feel the same each time.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:43 PM (l5wxK)

407 I bring this up for no reason whatsoever.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (mf5HN)


*re-inserts syringe full of tar heroin into eyeball*

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:44 PM (GQ8sn)

408 A 1911 barrel bushing wrench is cheap and very useful, especially if your 1911 has a Briley bushing matched to your Kart match barell.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:44 PM (JBggj)

409
You CANNOT make a 1911 discharge in the cocked and locked position by dropping it,

Don't take my word for it, Google it, and observe the inner workings.

There are 2 safety mechanisms utilized. Weapon can't discharge unless it's gripped in the firing position--exactly as one would to for real shoot it.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 14, 2014 12:45 PM (SAMxH)

410 bonhomme , I'm sorry if that's been your experience .
I had a Colt that was kinda' finicky .
Now I have a Springfield loaded and a Kimber . They both go bang , even with hollowpoints .
H and K and Sig are nice irons too . Whatever tool works for you .
1911 and everything else is kind of like a Ford Chevy debate .
Being a Ford guy I like 1911's .
Dodgers , Yankee's now that's serious shit .
Yankees suck .
Maryanne , Ginger is too high maintenance .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 12:45 PM (whqez)

411 A 1911 barrel bushing wrench is cheap and very
useful, especially if your 1911 has a Briley bushing matched to your
Kart match barell.


Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:44 PM (JBggj)


You forgot a FLGR and flanged barrel!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:46 PM (GQ8sn)

412
The Committee has decreed that yard work will commence this afternoon so see y'all later.

Have a fine day, good people.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 14, 2014 12:47 PM (SAMxH)

413 Yup.

I actually give the guy a point for disclosing that and not making me dig to find out the connection.

Posted by: Andy at May 14, 2014 12:42 PM (C/NnJ)


Half a point though IMHO. He discloses it but in an awkward and obfuscating manner.

"A foundation" "Competition" all make it seem like he's less heavily invested than he really is. (Indeed it makes him sound like a granting agency rather than an investor)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at May 14, 2014 12:48 PM (HDwDg)

414 Also, I want my Umlauten & Esseten back, yo.


Posted by: Fussy Dorkstick at May 14, 2014 12:48 PM (MbqmP)

415 Umm.

What the fuck?


http://bit.ly/1jtOa7n

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:49 PM (mf5HN)

416 No way! I love them. Got them both in .40. Reliable, accurate, and zero issues. I tend to stick with the P2000 because the trigger pull is different enough between the two that I want it to feel the same each time.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:43 PM (l5wxK)

Yup, the p2000 doesn't get enough play, even in the spec ops community. The Group and Team guys tend to the 229.

Never had a malfunction that was the gun's fault in either. Kick ass pistols.

Call me old school but I also just love the fuzz out of an M9/beretta 92E. Lightweight, easy cleaning, intuitive takedown.

Most folks dont understand that when you're using any tool (guns included) constantly, rolling around in the mud, water, snow, sand; maintenance and reliability are the top factors. Not caliber or sexiness.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:50 PM (x3YFz)

417 Of the 5 characteristics of a defensive weapon, 1-4 are reliability.

This is why "smart guns" are generations of technology away - if they will *ever* be viable.

I suspect they would only ever be viable under very limited circumstances, like prisons, which are controlled environments. Outside that, *by necessity* they are too vulnerable to failure.

In 200 years we may have electronics that are self-powering, resistant to EMP or outside signals, waterproof and temperature resistant, and so on.

On the other hand, we darned well better have light sabers, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:50 PM (qyfb5)

418 @417
True.
And if the technology was reliable, so much the worse.
See @2

Posted by: NYC Parent at May 14, 2014 12:51 PM (HEo6y)

419 372 The Cannon v Nikon debate.

A Cannon will blow a Nikon away every time. It's a big Iron thing that shoots cannon balls.

Canon is a company. Nikon uses Sony sensors. Nikkor builds lenses. I owned a studio for years, and we used nothing but Nikon and Nikkor for our 35mm work. Our forox animation stands used Nikkor lenses as well.

If you want to know what the pros think, next time you're watching a sporting event or a news conference, count the white lenses vs the black ones. I just use Canon for my own purposes now, the Nikon stuff is always having something happen to it. I've still got 2 Nikon bodies and half a dozen lenses.

Nikkor makes a few fantastic lenses. But Canon owns the market for telephoto and mid-range. I've got both. Canon ergonomics are superior, and most of their stuff is still built in Japan, not China or Indonesia. Nikon owns the megapixel race, no doubt. But if I'm recommending a prosumer camera I lean Canon - at least until Nikon solves their current QA problems (oil on sensors).

The new Sony A7r is pretty amazing too, but again some build and light-leak issues. With these you get a compact body and can use any lens you want - and astounding MP count.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (pgQxn)

420 alex the chick , ehhh , it Massatooosits .
They'll probably be back to burning withches soon .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (whqez)

421 Never had a malfunction that was the gun's fault in either. Kick ass pistols.


My wife somehow stovepiped my 229. I suspect she limp-wristed it.

It was perfect! Straight up vertical!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (GQ8sn)

422 I'm trying to help Alex Baldwin out. He tweeted :

So, when a cop lies to protect themself, what do I plead in court on July 14th?
Even if you are innocent, w witnesses, what do you do?

-
I responded that he should call the judge a selfish little faggot pig.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2014 12:53 PM (XUKZU)

423 NYC Parent: If someone else can turn it off without my permission, it's not reliable.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 14, 2014 12:53 PM (qyfb5)

424 Pando is, overall, a shit news site, spending its time pushing issues, without providing much news.

I tried following it for a while, but grew tired of being preached at by my lessers.

Levine's hack piece is par for their course.

Posted by: Patton at May 14, 2014 12:54 PM (1Mxs7)

425 #415

Excerpt from linked article:

"The election law bill will be taken up by the House of Representatives
in tomorrow's formal session. In addition to this legislation, a local
ordinance in Lowell, lowering the voting age to 17 for municipal
elections is also on the docket."

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:54 PM (JBggj)

426 I responded that he should call the judge a selfish little faggot pig.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 14, 2014 12:53 PM (XUKZU)


Well done, sir. *gold star badge for the man card*

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (/29Nl)

427 http://bit.ly/1jtOa7n

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:49 PM (mf5HN)

16 year olds are totally responsible enought to vote.

Yet 27 year olds are considered children under the ACA.



What'd you do to piss off SMOD where it is so reluctant to do its damn job?!?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (fWAjv)

428 Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (pgQxn)


I shot Minolta in the 80's. What happened to them? I thought their equipment was great.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (Fp7JI)

429 The Cannon v Nikon debate.



Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (pgQxn)

Taken with a Cannon EOS by a guy who has zero idea what he's doing (me):
http://greyttimes.com/?p=543

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (x3YFz)

430 The thing I am looking forward to is when police have these, and some enterprising hacker figures out how to use a BT app on his phone to disable the gun remotely. Cue Keystone Cops arriving at a bank robbery, try to shoot at perpetrators. >CLICKCLICKCLICK<. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Abner "Call Me Abbie" Normal at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (qlBdX)

431 What'd you do to piss off SMOD where it is so reluctant to do its damn job?!?
Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (fWAjv)


Hey, don't be blaming me for that. I'm the one beseeching on a regular basis.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:56 PM (mf5HN)

432 Maryanne , Ginger is too high maintenance .
---
yeah. Maryanne.

Posted by: Ginger at May 14, 2014 12:56 PM (SO2Q8)

433 You won't go wrong with a T3i - sister in law has one - gets great results. They can be bought new from BH for your price range. If your film camera uses EOS lenses - that is another strong reason to stick with Canon.

Posted by: An Observation at May 14, 2014 12:57 PM (ylhEn)

434 My wife somehow stovepiped my 229. I suspect she limp-wristed it.

It was perfect! Straight up vertical!

Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 12:52 PM (GQ8sn)

yup. LOL. sounds like limp wrist to me!

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 12:57 PM (x3YFz)

435 I inherited a Kimber Raptor II. Does that have the block? Off to the Googles.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (l5wxK)

Kind of silly getting a block for something you lost in the river...right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at May 14, 2014 12:57 PM (M+evy)

436 alex the chick , ehhh , it Massatooosits . They'll probably be back to burning withches soon .
---
That's so 17th century, today's Christians look ever so flammable...

Posted by: Massachusetts at May 14, 2014 12:58 PM (SO2Q8)

437 This post needs moar umlauts.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 12:58 PM (7ObY1)

438 Hey, don't be blaming me for that. I'm the one beseeching on a regular basis.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 12:56 PM (mf5HN)

True, true.

Apologies.

It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:58 PM (fWAjv)

439 I sincerely hope Baldwin takes your advice WalrusRex.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 12:59 PM (l5wxK)

440 After read that article linked at #415, I had a vision of 3d grade teachers 'assisting" their students, who were filling out absentee ballots that included a school bond issue.

Posted by: mrp at May 14, 2014 12:59 PM (JBggj)

441 329. noone, really: of the 100% Southerners,

"the fact that [only] 1.4% of Southerners owned slaves"

Source?

I wouldn't doubt that none of the poorest Southern whites had slaves. Some plantation owner elitists snobs would call them "poor white trash" for scratching out a subsistence living from the earth. [Same snob bigotry illustrated by Steinbeck, Grapes of Wrath, employed whites vs. unemployed and displaced whites. "Who'd wanna live like that?" "They just don't know better.") Truth be known/admitted, most white emigrants arriving on the American Continent were indentured servants (snobs would say "poor white trash" without discriminating necessarily between honest folk and scallywags), or indeed, very poor Scots/Irish starving and willing to sacrifice further for the chance to live in America, from humble beginnings.

But what source quotes as fact the figure of only 1.4% of white Southerners owning slaves?

I know that white Americans, North and South, of moderate income owned a slave, whether household duty or as in the Northern presidential candidate's father's household, labor for a Tavern. I linked that wiki topic source last month when mentioning it here, but would need to think longer than I care to recall the Northern politician's' name at the moment.

Seeing your reference, I just had to call you on your "fact" noone, really. 1.4%?

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 01:00 PM (gmrH5)

442
And good take down of a liberal idiot. On liberals and gun control I keep going back to the first amendment.



What
if we regulated the news like we do guns, especially since they are
nothing more than lying jackasses for the corrupt Dem politicians.


Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2014 10:54 AM (T2V/1)

I say this all the time. "You can talk about limiting me to a musket after you've limited yourself to a manual printing press."


Posted by: D-Lamp at May 14, 2014 01:00 PM (bb5+k)

443 Hey, don't be blaming me for that. I'm the one beseeching on a regular basis.
---
Has the virgin been sacrificed yet today?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 01:00 PM (SO2Q8)

444 It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson.
Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 12:58 PM (fWAjv)

----

**blows whistle
**throws yellow flag

15 yards and loss of down for unmanly "Forrest Gump" quote.

Next infraction will cost you yer man card. Youve been warned.....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (nELVU)

445 Wilma or Betty.

Both ladies can really wear a short skirt, but I say Wilma. Betty's laugh would drive me insane.

Besides, I heard Wilma does it Dino-style.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (7ObY1)

446 390
Only a crossbow enthusiast would use a Nikon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (LJ7Ze)
OK. So tell me what do you do with those old Cannon lenses that won't fit on your new Cannon body?
Use them as door stops?

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (0FSuD)

447 1968 Democrats: "We need to get guns out of the hands of the (mostly minority) poor; lets ban all cheap guns; call the 'Saturday Night Specials' or 'Junk Guns' to disarm the poor"

2014 Democrats: "Well we tried, that won't work again. Lets force really expensive additions to all guns; that'll get the (mostly minority) poor disarmed as well. Maybe people won't see we're doing the same thing for the same reason".

Same song, different verse... why should I pretend this is different?

Oh yes, they "Care" now... I forgot. And they're totally not racist while working to hurt the (mostly minority) poor... again.

Posted by: gekkobear at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (aoA8q)

448 Taken with a Cannon EOS by a guy who has zero idea what he's doing (me):
http://greyttimes.com/?p=543


Gorgeous birds! African Greys are amazing. I don't know anything about photography, but I like the pictures very much.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (l5wxK)

449 What about Betty vs Veronica?


Posted by: EC at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (GQ8sn)

450 Next infraction will cost you yer man card. Youve been warned.....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (nELVU)

C'mon. That was going to be my go-to line around the office.

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 01:02 PM (fWAjv)

451 @423 Understood O Dark One.
I would add to "unreliable": GPS-able and having data recording ability.
I'm sure that once your gun is "smart" you (and anyone with access to the Codes) will also be able to keep track of its location.
And, any "smart" device worth its salt should be able to record and remember data, e.g. number of rounds fired, when, where, etc.

Posted by: NYC Parent at May 14, 2014 01:03 PM (HEo6y)

452 Kind of silly getting a block for something you lost in the river...right? RIGHT?

Yep. Academic interest only.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 01:03 PM (l5wxK)

453 John at Ace of Spades?
Never heard of him.

Posted by: charles gibson at May 14, 2014 01:03 PM (5AsM2)

454 Has the virgin been sacrificed yet today?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 01:00 PM (SO2Q


*shifty eyes*

Would I do such a thing?

*shifty eyes&

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 14, 2014 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

455 Or Barry vs. Reggie.

Posted by: Fussy Dorkstick at May 14, 2014 01:04 PM (MbqmP)

456 What about Betty vs Veronica?
--
Why choose, got something against threesomes? Man up.

Posted by: Archie at May 14, 2014 01:04 PM (SO2Q8)

457 I shot Minolta in the 80's. What happened to them? I thought their equipment was great.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 14, 2014 12:55 PM (Fp7JI)


They became the Sony line. (Bought out).

Posted by: An Observation at May 14, 2014 01:05 PM (ylhEn)

458 @429

The new cameras, any manufacturer, are amazing. Shit I've had a Nikon D-200 for years and I still can't do all the stuff it will do.

Even the point and shot shit is simply amazing. The electronics take the stupid out of most amateurs photographers.

I have an old Contax G-2. Now THOSE are some sweet lenses. It's film, damn it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 01:05 PM (0FSuD)

459 Next infraction will cost you yer man card. Youve been warned.....

Come and claim it!

*shrieks gutterally*

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 01:05 PM (l5wxK)

460 *shifty eyes* Would I do such a thing? *shifty eyes
---
If you're feeling squeamish, you only need to sacrifice her virginity...
and film it

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 01:06 PM (SO2Q8)

461 77
Before throwing out reference about Hitler:

Hitler's power was unchecked because he disarmed the people. Duh.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 14, 2014 11:05 AM (1e3lQ)

I think JPFO needs to give this guy a call.


Posted by: D-Lamp at May 14, 2014 01:06 PM (bb5+k)

462 What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Marry my daughter"? These
are the people of the East. The common clay of New York City. You
know--morons.

Excuse me while I whip out this smart-gun.

Posted by: yasha, yes, i'm a boy, levine at May 14, 2014 01:06 PM (5AsM2)

463 "Umm.


What the fuck?


http://bit.ly/1jtOa7n


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Thanks, AtC for providing the day's rage stroke! Reminds me of the time some idiots on the Cambridge city council wanted 12 year olds to be able to vote in local elections, and when one of their state senators tried to ban the serving of fluffernutters in schools. FYI, it's the state effin' sandwich.

*looks longingly north towards NH*

Soon....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2014 01:07 PM (knoK7)

464 The thing I am looking forward to is when police have these,


It would be funny, but police will never have these. The proponents know and understand all of the rationales against mandating smart guns, and would never let cops have them.

Posted by: grognard at May 14, 2014 01:07 PM (/29Nl)

465 There are no facts in journalism anymore, just the tribal war-dance around the camp fire.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at May 14, 2014 01:08 PM (CrJzY)

466
Me, I want a smart word processor manadated for fools like this: one that would refuse the save the file once the ceiling on stupidity had been breached.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 14, 2014 01:08 PM (VrNoa)

467 One simple simple "smartgun" question: What's the default failure mode? That is, in the event of a total ID-tech failure (e.g., dead battery), does the gun go BANG or not?

To put it bluntly, will a tech failure default to BANG (meaning the tech is useless and easy to circumvent), or default to NOT-bang (meaning the gun is inherently unreliable, therefore of not worthy of consideration for self defense, or any other high-value use)?

This fundamental design question must be answered before any specific technology can even be discussed, let alone getting to such thorny technical questions as "Can the fire/no-fire mode be controlled/selected/altered remotely, even theoretically, by anyone other than the primary operator?"

Posted by: Rolf at May 14, 2014 01:08 PM (hakcA)

468 OT:

The unofficial AoS Horde patch is final, ordered.

Ordered 50, 39 are already spoken for. I'll order more if need be. $6 each (just enough to break even, not looking to get rich here).

Patch is here. subdued, velcro backing:

http://greyttimes.com/?p=801

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM (x3YFz)

469 smart guns, the Fredo of self-defense

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM (SO2Q8)

470 So is MWR trapped in the phantom zone or something?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM (fWAjv)

471 Excuse me while I whip out this smart-gun.

Well, don't just stand there looking stupid and holding your smart guns in pain. How 'bout a little applause for the guy who just robbed you?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM (l5wxK)

472 425 mrp

Lowering the voting age to 17.

Hell, I remember the protests swaying public opinion to give the legal right to vote, purchase and consume alcohol to those being drafted into the Viet Nam War. If they're old enough to die for our country, they're old enough to vote.

Were that the argument now, for lowering the voting age to that of minimal age to enlist in the US Military, the law should stipulate that military personnel have the legal right to vote regardless of the voter's age. It isn't as if 17 year old juvenile delinquents, thugs and illiterate junkies before they are legally adults deserve the right to vote consideration due to US Citizen Military Personnel.

But until our military personnel votes are actually counted within the tally prior to declaring the electoral victors, even that point of "right to vote" (age 1 did not mean the votes would be counted before election results were declared /"settled science"/.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (gmrH5)

473 The Cannon v Nikon debate:

After much agonizing over the Canon vs Nikon a couple years ago the hubby went with a Nikon.
I'm not sure why - probably price plus the availability of general purpose zoom lenses? He would have been as equally happy with a Cannon, I'm guessing.
Me, I just use the camera on my phone.

Posted by: votermom at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (GSIDW)

474 Looks at disassembled smart gun .
Fuck me .

Posted by: police armorer at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (whqez)

475 Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM (x3YFz)

Did you get my email?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (fWAjv)

476 One simple simple "smartgun" question: What's the default failure mode? That is, in the event of a total ID-tech failure (e.g., dead battery), does the gun go BANG or not?

Not. It defaults to no-fire mode.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (l5wxK)

477 I am getting emails that comments are down again.

Posted by: Carol at May 14, 2014 01:11 PM (gjOCp)

478 Umm.



What the fuck?

--

Yeah, because every 17 year old I've ever known knows all about the issues and can make informed decisions on municipal elections. Maybe they're just trying to get them fresh from their 8:30-3pm indoctrination centers.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2014 01:11 PM (tsGZY)

479
So is MWR trapped in the phantom zone or something?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 01:09 PM

Apparently she can't get the HQ on her work computer at the moment. Poor thing. She must be twitching in withdrawal by now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2014 01:11 PM (knoK7)

480 Look, they don't have the tech in Star Wars or Star Trek. So clearly we are centuries from this becoming possible.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 14, 2014 01:12 PM (SO2Q8)

481 Did you get my email?

Posted by: RWC at May 14, 2014 01:10 PM (fWAjv)
zomby...

yeppers will be one of the first shipped.

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 01:12 PM (x3YFz)

482 Tinfoil hat on!

Is it just me or is Preezy Oblahblah shooting the bird at this Medal of Honor recipient as he bestows the medal?

Check the picture out:

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/14/sgt-kyle-j-

white-medal-of-honor/



I'm pretty sure that's an impossibility as we know the Preezy never surreptitiously shoots the bird.

Posted by: Hillary! at May 14, 2014 01:13 PM (0cMkb)

483
390
Only a crossbow enthusiast would use a Nikon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 14, 2014 12:38 PM (LJ7Ze)


While wearing boxer-briefs and fantasizing about Ginger.

Like I said -- assholes.

Posted by: Phinn at May 14, 2014 01:13 PM (i5GO4)

484 Can we get smart journalist legislation?

Posted by: blaster at May 14, 2014 01:13 PM (h7Onx)

485 Nood.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2014 01:14 PM (knoK7)

486 later.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 14, 2014 01:14 PM (gmrH5)

487 484 Can we get smart journalist legislation?

Posted by: blaster at May 14, 2014 01:13 PM (h7Onx)

Did you just say "smart journalist?"

Posted by: tangonine at May 14, 2014 01:15 PM (x3YFz)

488 Nood fwench up.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2014 01:15 PM (gD+aI)

489 @441

I would suspect that number is by total population, not land area. You have to remember the slave market only worked when you had a lot of land.

Almost none in the Western parts of VA, NC, SC, GA. Not enough land to make their labor pay. Slaves were both capital and labor. You had to pay for them and feed them whether not you had a crop come in or not.

My family has been here for over 350 years. I did some research on Black migration in grad school and was going through the 1790 census books. UNC grad library was a copy. Of the 100 families with my last name, only one had slaves. We were poor I guess.

They were too expensive for most farmers. There is a paper somewhere, that I read in grad school, that tried to figure out the minimum land you needed to make a slave profitable. I go search some.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 14, 2014 01:16 PM (0FSuD)

490
1968 Democrats: "We need to get guns out of the hands of the (mostly minority) poor; lets ban all cheap guns; call the 'Saturday Night Specials' or 'Junk Guns' to disarm the poor"

2014 Democrats: "Well we tried, that won't work again. Lets force really expensive additions to all guns; that'll get the (mostly minority) poor disarmed as well. Maybe people won't see we're doing the same thing for the same reason".

Same song, different verse... why should I pretend this is different?

Oh yes, they "Care" now... I forgot. And they're totally not racist while working to hurt the (mostly minority) poor... again.

Posted by: gekkobear at May 14, 2014 01:01 PM (aoA8q)







Which brings us back to zombie's classic about racism being the ultimate motivation for EVERY leftist idea.

http://tinyurl.com/nrhtzwa

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2014 01:16 PM (TIIx5)

491
They are all ideologues and shills. Anything you say to them will be lied about. Refuse to even talk to them.

If they insist, punch them in the throat. If they don't insist, punch them in the throat anyway.


Posted by: Kristophr at May 14, 2014 12:29 PM (0zVEV)

You and I are on the same page with this thinking.


Posted by: D-Lamp at May 14, 2014 01:16 PM (bb5+k)

492 Bonhomme-476: that's the usual response, but it leads directly to the questions "will it be used by the police, then? So self-defense isn't considered a legitimate reason to own/use a gun?"

Basically, adopting that position formally outs the statist as really not caring about the average person, and makes them explicitly claim that police are "special" in a way that the typical "man on the street" will not be very comfortable with. It cuts to the heart of the cultural difference between "pro smartgun" and "anti smartgun" sides, even though the firearms-knowledge difference is already well-known and vast. It also acts to highlight their total ignorance of how technology actually works, and exposes their magical thinking.

Posted by: Rolf at May 14, 2014 01:18 PM (hakcA)

493 348 -- Tami -- You might want to switch to 'Adblock Edge' 'Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon' instead.

I have none of the issues you mention.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 14, 2014 01:19 PM (lJaja)

494 @441 panzernashornAccording to the 1860 United States Census, about 385,000 individuals (i.e. 1.4% of "White Americans "White Americans" in the country, or 4.8% of southern whites) owned one or more slaves..My bad, you are correct. Should be 4.8% per wikipedia's 1860 Census reference.

I retract the 1.4% of Southerners and blame lack of sleep and eye strain.

Posted by: noone, really at May 14, 2014 01:21 PM (LSaM1)

495 Me, I want a smart word processor manadated for fools like this:

YASHA LEVINE: ...and that should do it! A masterpiece takedown of those icky gun-nuts! Now to just save it...

(Clicks Save)

WORDCZAr3k: || Nah Bro ||

(Program erases file)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 14, 2014 01:25 PM (rt3TY)

496 Now I'm all for licensing of shooters, such licences being given on a shall-issue basis to all comers with no history of unprovoked violent crime or other serious felonies and who are able to pass a basic written and practical safety and handling test (and which would obviate the need for a central repository of Form 4473's or what-have-you; you'd just show the licence at the counter when you bought your gun, ammo, powder or primers and the sales people would go "yep, fine")...

...but this smart gun business? This is bullshit. To hell with it.

Posted by: perturbed at May 14, 2014 01:33 PM (TXq4O)

497 I can't wait until they find the first NSA backdoor on these guns.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at May 14, 2014 01:52 PM (FA3Z7)

498 This all should have had a trigger warning. That pando article was full of microagressions. I am now traumatized.

Posted by: T at May 14, 2014 02:01 PM (8fGgP)

499 Maybe we can create some smart 777s that don't wander off by their lonesome before we tackle this one.

Posted by: akula51 at May 14, 2014 02:49 PM (6LDr1)

500 AllenG (225):
We've all had the experience of reading an article like this one and "feel[ing] about 10 IQ points dumber". What a lot of you may not know is, if you read it twice more, you can find out exactly what it feels like to be an Obama voter.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at May 14, 2014 03:48 PM (yxWDD)

501 Following along Smart Phones...

After smart guns, how about a legal requirement that all smart guns have the ability to be remotely "bricked" by the government...

Posted by: Old Toby at May 14, 2014 04:01 PM (dop0N)

502 My suggestion is that the NRA should publicly approach the New Jersey Legislature with a proposal that all police forces in the state must adopt 'smart' guns as their only weapons as soon as they are technically feasible.

This would be a tremendous help in developing smart guns, since 'all the police guns in New Jersey' delivers a pretty big market to the first developer.

Besides, I love the sound of crickets.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at May 14, 2014 05:14 PM (UYiBe)

503 Most journalists think of the NRA as some kind of entity that survives through gun industry money rather than a group with a massive membership (of voters to boot) concerned about their constitutional rights.

Most journalists are hacks.

Posted by: rjschwarz at May 14, 2014 07:02 PM (sWlqj)

504 the whole evil 'nra and industry' are against it is also another layer of deceit. A: the nra represents everyday gun owners. B: Gun buyers / gun owners don't want mandated smart gun tech.

Posted by: thomass at May 14, 2014 07:13 PM (H66zM)

505 The podcast on this topic was fascinating. Thank you to all of you for sharing the information about the event, your conversation with the journalist, and especially about Tracking Point technology.

Posted by: Mongerel at May 15, 2014 08:21 AM (YqWfw)

506 Sorry, but when you speak to a "reporter" with bylines on AlterNet, do you expect a fair result?

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Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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