Gun Thread: The Dried Stuff in a Basket in the Bathroom Edition [Weasel]

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Flowery Dried Stuff


Well this past week I've been at the Texas MoMe, and should just be getting home about the time this thread goes up on Sunday. Since I will not have had much time for Gun Thread writin' over the last few days, what I'm going to do is post some stuff sent in by you all - kind of a big Mail Bag section for the week. Some will certainly recognize this as a half-ass effort, or perhaps even a quarter-ass effort, but I prefer to think of it as a potpourri of content! That's it! It's a potpourri of gun thread content! Let's get to it below, shall we?

First up is a field report from our pal Diogenes who sends us the following:

While attending the Washington Arms Collectors gun show yesterday I saw these really clever shivs. I didn't realize Bluebell had started marketing her products.

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It's a Brush and a Shiv!

Nice find Diogenes! Bluebell has certainly captured some of the concealed shiv retail market. Word on the "street" is she's planning to introduce a new line this fall and a Shiv's 'n Beans Bistro is in the works for Spring!

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Next we have this nice submission from our pal rocdoctom who spotted this sign on a recent trip.

Not a sign you see everywhere. Eureka Nevada on Hwy 50...the friendliest town on the loneliest road in America.

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Eureka, NV is Gun Friendly!

Nice to know there are still some places in the United States that aren't filled with retards! Thanks rocdoctom!

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Next we have a range report from the SW Ohio MoMe from last weekend from our pal ibguy:

As prelude to the 6th(!) Annual SW Ohio MoMe a bunch of us met at the Vandalia Range & Armory. Our group included special guest Alton Jackson, the HQ's resident dead guy (buzzion), and a handful of others. Most had at least *some* experience with firearms, but buzzion was a virgin.

Emphasis on *was*.

Attached is a photo from his first-ever shooting experience (this with my Walther P22). He went on to shooting equally accurately with a 9mm and a 1911. Wow!

Retired Buckeye Cop brought his amazing AR (chambered in .22). It was waaaay too much fun to shoot! And incredibly accurate. RBC explains:

"It was a replica of the WWII-era Sturmgewehr 44 (StG 44) made by German Sport Guns chambered in .22 Long Rifle. The original StG 44 was the first assault rifle ever designed: the StG 44 has a lot of features that Kalishnikov copied directly into his AK-47 and Stoner adapted when he designed his Armalite 15 (AR 15), the basis of the M-16."

Alton Jackson brought a replica 6-shooter (chambered in .22 Magnum). What a HOOT - *everyone* wanted a turn!

Lurker Allan Y and his family also joined us (he and his wife and daughters have been MoMe fixtures from the very beginning). His HS sophomore daughter outshot pretty much everyone in our group - it was eery!

We had a great time, and will definitely be adding this "extra" as a regular MoMe feature going forward.

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Dead Guy's Target

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Retired Buckeye Cop Takes a Turn

Great report, thanks ibguy!! Sounds like a good time was had by all. And who would have thought a dead guy could shoot?!

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THANK YOU

I'd like to take a moment to thank all those who attended another spectacular Texas MoMe. It was the stuff legends are made of, and it was an absolute pleasure to meet and re-meet each and every one of you. Special hat tip and love for Ben Had, Rancherbob and CowHorseQueen - our gracious and super-fun hosts for the weekend. My God that was a good time. We cannot thank you enough!!!!!

We did a lot of great shooting over two days, with a list of weapons too numerous to mention. Thank you to Jim Sunk New Dawn and Eromero for their help running the various ranges and all the others for bringing personal weapons and ammo for everyone to shoot!

Please feel free to discuss all the shooting, or the now concluded 4th Annual TXMoMe in general, in in the comments below!

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Link-O-Rama

Outdoor Life: Most Notable Guns from Remington
Guns Magazine: 2019 Gift Guide
Ammoland: Ahnold and the Lever-Action Shotgun
Grand View Outdoors: Walnut Stocks
Shooting Times: Colt King Cobra Review
Handguns Magazine: Walther PPK/S Review


***Mail Bag***

Returns next week!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 I has envy.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:05 PM (+a9vj)

2 I also haz a first.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:06 PM (+a9vj)

3 Ready on the left. Ready on the right. All is ready on the commenting line.

Commence commenting!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 07:06 PM (DMUuz)

4 Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:07 PM (arJlL)

5 I've got one of those .22 replica StG-44s. Heavy as hell and cool as f***.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 07:09 PM (j4zcI)

6 showed a local couple a bit of the toy collection Fryday, as we had been talking about going shooting.

they were somewhere a bit passed impressed.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 07:11 PM (Kyj0g)

7 I'm confused. Is the potpourri bowl where you stash the bathroom pistol?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 07:11 PM (xG/b0)

8 There was a very limited edition of custom shivs by bluebell available at the TX MoMe.

Besides being signed, rumor has it that, under the right circumstances, the phrase "Troll Drengi" can be seen glowing faintly along the blade.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 07:11 PM (DMUuz)

9 .22 conversion for AR is the titz.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:11 PM (+a9vj)

10 I'm confused. Is the potpourri bowl where you stash the bathroom pistol?


Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 07:11 PM (xG/b0)
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Good idea!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

11 So this M1919, air or water cooled?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (ZCEU2)

12 Weasel I know 'somebody' that talked a dude into smoking some of that dried flowery stuff. After his first couple of draws he said 'man this stuff burns hot, but I'm starting to feel it.' We said 'I bet you are.'

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (UUkQp)

13 So have all of those people left Texas?

The roads will be empty...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (6qErC)

14 Weasel I know 'somebody' that talked a dude into smoking some of that dried flowery stuff. After his first couple of draws he said 'man this stuff burns hot, but I'm starting to feel it.' We said 'I bet you are.'


Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (UUkQp)
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Yeah, brother. Gotta pick the seeds out, too!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

15 11 So this M1919, air or water cooled?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (ZCEU2)
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I think we should allow Ladyl to answer that!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:17 PM (MVjcR)

16 So this M1919, air or water cooled?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:13 PM (ZCEU2)
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I think we should allow Ladyl to answer that!
Posted by: Wease

Isn't she still stuck at the airport ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:19 PM (arJlL)

17 Did WeaselWoman attend?

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:20 PM (+a9vj)

18 Is there anyone in the Hq that does long range shooting competitions? I had been heretofore aware of but knew nothing about such a thing. Then I got involved with someone who does and and various parts of my place have been converted into a range and skunks are no longer a problem for me now.

But the teenie tiny targets are an amazement to me.

Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM (f2wz/)

19
Isn't she still stuck at the airport ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:19 PM (arJlL)
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They may have nabbed her at the security checkpoint.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

20 17 Did WeaselWoman attend?
Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:20 PM (+a9vj)
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Sadly she couldn't make it this year. So I sent her pictures the whole time to make her feel bad.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

21 Damn right she's stuck at the airport. She should have known better than to try taking that thing on the plane. Just kidding, she was a nice lady, unlikely to carry a M1919. A hairbrush shiv sure, but not a M1919.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:22 PM (UUkQp)

22 Who could have guessed that more ladies wanted to shoot the machine gun?

I was chastised by a good friend for not telling her that the machine gun was an option.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:23 PM (7CZws)

23 Is there anyone in the Hq that does long range shooting competitions?
Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM


The host of this Thread, Weasel, has probably forgotten more than most of us know.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 07:23 PM (DMUuz)

24 Now that I've got 6 full size auto pistols, I've got a basis for comparisons. One thing that surprised me was that my CZ-75 feels as thin in the hand as my 1911 (which is renowned for its slim, svelte butt). Not expected, since it's a double-stack 9mm. Double-stacks are thicker-er, yes?

So I busted out my caliper (non-digital, so I had to eyeball and estimate the decimals) and measured the grip thickness of all of my pistols. The results, from thinnest to thickest:

1) Yugoslav Tokarev: 1.15"
2) CZ-75: 1.213"
3) Browning Hi-Power: 1.24"
4) S+W Model 39: 1.28"
5) 1911: 1.287"
6) Beretta M9/92: 1.375"

(Caveat: The CZ-75 is wearing excellent frag-pattern VZ grips, which are wah-fer thin, but I think even the stock grips wouldn't bump it down more than one spot.)

The characteristics of the pistols, from the top:

1) Steel frame, 9mm, single-stack
2) Steel frame, 9mm, double-stack
3) Steel, 9mm, DS
4) Aluminum, 9mm, SS
5) Steel, .45, SS
6) Aluminum, 9mm, DS

Conclusion: grip thickness is determined less by single-stack vs double-stack mags than by frame material. Aluminum frames apparently must be made thicker than steel for strength.

So, if you've got small hands and/or put a premium on concealability, don't automatically assume you need a single-stack magazine pistol.

Now, modern plastic-fantastic pistols, I'm sure, are a whole different matter, but I own no combat Tupperware, so I can't make any comparisons there.




Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 07:24 PM (j4zcI)

25 Savoring the awesomeness !

I have had a similar configuration of shiv for many years, but not plastic - search "al mar wild hair" to see a pic.
Great tittle urban carry knife.

No range time today, doing Linux file server configuration for the home network, a tedious and arcane task not helped by mountains of not-quite-right information online.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 07:24 PM (bwo3w)

26 18 Is there anyone in the Hq that does long range shooting competitions? I had been heretofore aware of but knew nothing about such a thing. Then I got involved with someone who does and and various parts of my place have been converted into a range and skunks are no longer a problem for me now.

But the teenie tiny targets are an amazement to me.
Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM (f2wz/)
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Some of the clowns here have rifle skills.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

27 19 They may have nabbed her at the security checkpoint.
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

Well i just got the extra special pat down & one of my bags tossed. >: (

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:25 PM (/bbyo)

28 How many attended this MoMe of Distinction?

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:25 PM (+a9vj)

29 ooops, substitute "little" !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 07:26 PM (bwo3w)

30 27 19 They may have nabbed her at the security checkpoint.
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

Well i just got the extra special pat down & one of my bags tossed. >: (
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:25 PM (/bbyo)
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Aw, crap!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

31 I'm still not seething with envy. Nope. Not a bit.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 07:26 PM (NWiLs)

32 test

Posted by: gunga din at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (B+t5k)

33 22 Who could have guessed that more ladies wanted to shoot the machine gun?

But but it was FUN!!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (/bbyo)

34 Well i just got the extra special pat down & one of my bags tossed. >: (
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:25 PM


Two name tags often presage the extra special, I've heard.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (DMUuz)

35 Well, I'm home and unpacked. I have to say, this was my first and I had a great time. There's nothing like putting faces to nics and comments in gray boxes. Everyone was pure joy to meet. I'm so blessed and thankful I was able to attend. Alas.. my one regret was not spending more time talking to Weasel. I had some great conversations with so many but I'm sad I didn't have at least one long discussion with our beloved Weasel.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (dUJdY)

36 Pheasant season is coming and I miss my pup; Lady Samantha of South Windsor.

My Remington Wingmaster rusts in the attic.

Posted by: Regular joe at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (6/uwW)

37 Isn't she still stuck at the airport ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:19 PM (arJlL)
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They may have nabbed her at the security checkpoint.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:21 PM

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I believe she said she got next connecting flight after missing original connector and will get home tonite.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (Dhht7)

38 Tried to make sure that no one that had a flight got any of the contraband as a door prize. I might have failed.

Do you need bail, bebe?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:28 PM (7CZws)

39 28 How many attended this MoMe of Distinction?
Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:25 PM (+a9vj)
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Ben Had could tell us for sure but I'm guessing 50+? 60?

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:28 PM (MVjcR)

40 Well i just got the extra special pat down & one of my bags tossed. >: (
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at

I'm sorry bebe, I got that treatment in March and August, totally different destinations. I really hate flying.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:28 PM (m+0jM)

41 Well i just got the extra special pat down & one of my bags tossed. >: (

I told you those things were gonna get you in trouble!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:29 PM (dUJdY)

42 Some of the clowns here have rifle skills.
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

I had never seen such a thing since Grimmy kept his work life separate from me and he used a 240 bravo. This is all new and I am finding myself intrigued. Lurch pretty much is trying his level best to teach me, and I will report if theres success. Scope sure helps!

Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at October 20, 2019 07:29 PM (f2wz/)

43 35 Well, I'm home and unpacked. I have to say, this was my first and I had a great time. There's nothing like putting faces to nics and comments in gray boxes. Everyone was pure joy to meet. I'm so blessed and thankful I was able to attend. Alas.. my one regret was not spending more time talking to Weasel. I had some great conversations with so many but I'm sad I didn't have at least one long discussion with our beloved Weasel.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (dUJdY)
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Next year!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:29 PM (MVjcR)

44 Jewells, darling, What a pleasure and Thank You so much for everything.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:30 PM (7CZws)

45 35 Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (dUJdY)

Thank you again for the lovely bracelet that matched my dress!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:30 PM (/bbyo)

46 Wow. I had an RI mini MoMe with three. But we were special.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (+a9vj)

47 For sure Weasel!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (dUJdY)

48 Weasel, I'm so glad everyone had such a great time in Texas, with and without firearms. Wish we could have been there.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (bmdz3)

49 Still laughing over the Bluebell shivs. Glad everybody had such a rollickin' good time.

Posted by: Notorious BFD, double-naught Rooskie asset at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (EgshT)

50 Weasel! What a great weekend! Just got home.

D'oh Boy had a blast, and especially enjoyed shooting some cool stuff.

I'm exhausted and will post more tomorrow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

51 Jewells!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

52 50 or 60 ?

*Harry Caray voice*

Holy Cow !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 07:32 PM (bwo3w)

53 42 Some of the clowns here have rifle skills.
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:24 PM (MVjcR)

I had never seen such a thing since Grimmy kept his work life separate from me and he used a 240 bravo. This is all new and I am finding myself intrigued. Lurch pretty much is trying his level best to teach me, and I will report if theres success. Scope sure helps!
Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at October 20, 2019 07:29 PM (f2wz/)
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There is a link at the bottom of the thread to an archive of Gun Threads. A few last year before Christmas discussed long range shooting. We also had a little clinic in Texas on Friday.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:32 PM (MVjcR)

54 You're very welcome Bebe!

Ben Had.. you are a true treasure. I just adore you. I wouldn't have been there without your efforts and others who helped me along the way. You refused to take no for an answer!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (dUJdY)

55 I'm still not seething with envy. Nope. Not a bit.
Posted by: Insomniac

Jealousy and envy are of the evil one.

Just be happy for those fortunate enough to attend .

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (arJlL)

56 50 Weasel! What a great weekend! Just got home.

D'oh Boy had a blast, and especially enjoyed shooting some cool stuff.

I'm exhausted and will post more tomorrow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)
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Glad you made it home safe and sound. Shooting with D'oh Boy was a highlight for me!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

57 Weasel, 55 Friday night and 50 Saturday.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (7CZws)

58 It was asked in food thread but not answered. Do you go by nics at a MoMe or real names? Or both?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (Dhht7)

59 As it happens, I got to the range this week. Went to NORVA with my shooting buddy Rick. I brought my M1, a Mossberg 44US 22, and a Remington 512 tube mag 22..
I put 5 clips through the M1 to confirm it was correctly sighted in.
I switched to the Remington...I was unable to ascertain where it was hitting at 25 yards. This gun is a project that I am rebuilding...More work to be done. It feeds and fires OK though, so can check that box.
Then on to the mossberg... I have plinked with it some over the years, but this time it was for accuracy work. At 25 yards it was so spot on it was boring. I switched to 50 yards, with the same result. I then switched to 22 shorts at 50 yards. Had to "hold over" a bit with the shorts, but if I did my part, I couldn't miss. Lovely gun...
Meanwhile, everyone else at the range was having a full auto schutzenfest. 4 belt fed guns, BAR, Thompson, Sten, belt fed H and Ks... A very good day at the range.

Posted by: Jesse in DC at October 20, 2019 07:34 PM (ouR/N)

60 Taro Tsujimoto @24- doublestack vs singlestack. Everything is shot placement, right? Having said that, I confess to owning the CZ, 1911 nad Berretta. But I carry them rarely. I normally conceal carry a G19 Gen2. But this past weekend I carried a G48 which is a singlestack 9mm with 10rd mags, and is al little over 1 inch thick. There is a company, Shield something or other, that has produced a steel 15 rd mag for the G48. Yeah, how does it fit? I don't know but as soon as they go back in stock, I'm ordering a half dozen.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:34 PM (UUkQp)

61 I got the full body pat down and gyno exam at Love Field, because of this damned aircast. Also had my hands checked for explosives residue.

As usual, Mr. D'oh just breezed through.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:34 PM (ptqGC)

62 38 Do you need bail, bebe?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:28 PM (7CZws)

Thanks, but i finally flashed the angry lesbian & she let me through.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:35 PM (1gZ9R)

63 Hey Jane!!! Hope that foot gets better quick! Baby yourself and stay off of it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:35 PM (dUJdY)

64 "combat Tupperware", LOL !

One here, the SIG P290, maybe 2 if I buy the LCP2 for Mrs Eez.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 07:35 PM (bwo3w)

65 olddog, either or.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:35 PM (7CZws)

66 Olddog, some had just nics but most had their nic and real name under it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:35 PM (dUJdY)

67 41 I told you those things were gonna get you in trouble!
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:29 PM (dUJdY)

lol

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:36 PM (1gZ9R)

68 48 Weasel, I'm so glad everyone had such a great time in Texas, with and without firearms. Wish we could have been there.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 07:31 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks JTB. It was a crazy good time. When I travel I immediately get homesick but I sure didn't want to leave Texas this time!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:36 PM (MVjcR)

69 Oh Jane I'm so sorry. What a bunch of fucking bullshit!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:36 PM (dUJdY)

70 Husband is staying over in ATL tonight for a fundraiser and golf tournament tomorrow.

First, he forgot his nighttime insulin when we left Savannah, and today at Love Field, realized he'd left the $100 insulin the doc phoned in for him, in the fridge at the rental house. Oh, and his favorite gin in the freezer.

I can't even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:37 PM (ptqGC)

71 61 As usual, Mr. D'oh just breezed through.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:34 PM (ptqGC)

Arrggghhh don't you hate that?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:38 PM (/bbyo)

72 24 ... Taro,
I believe the CZ 75b is the most adaptable full size 9mm on the market. It is comfortable for Mrs. JTB's tiny hands and my catcher mitts size hands. If it was concealable, it would be my carry gun.

BTW, the 22lr adapter kit for the CZ is as accurate as the 9mm.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 07:38 PM (bmdz3)

73 57 Weasel, 55 Friday night and 50 Saturday.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (7CZws)
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Impressive!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:39 PM (MVjcR)

74 Eromero, Knowing that you were the pistol range master was such a sense of security.

My thanks are as big as the state of TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (7CZws)

75 We ran into Ladyl at the Whataburger in Love Field, and got to spend some time with her. We were on the same flight to ATL. The ATL flight ran over an hour late, and she was going to miss her connection. D'oh Boy and I made it to our Savannah flight just before it was due to leave. I tipped the wheel chair girl really well.

Whew. Anyhow, Imma going to order some delivery food of some kind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (ptqGC)

76 Hmm, a lot of military planes fueling at the local airport last night and today. Just heard another sound of freedom take off from this little burg.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (m+0jM)

77 Hiya

Sounds like everyone had a great time this week-end!

Posted by: ALH at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (f7Tfe)

78 Posted by: Regular joe at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM

What state, Joe?

Posted by: clutch at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (Z3oWA)

79 Did the piggies hunt take place?

Posted by: Notorious BFD, double-naught Rooskie asset at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (EgshT)

80 Ben Had, I love you to death. The entire event was perfect, and you are an absolute angel!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (ptqGC)

81 I'm glad everyone had a good time at the TX MoMe. I really enjoy reading all your comments and generally lurking. Good job by all. I hope I can hook up with you folks sometime in the future.

Posted by: Spankmeister at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (dn8lZ)

82 And we had the best weather you could hope for. It was perfect.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (dUJdY)

83 olddog - if it was me I'd rather stay with nics as it would be to confusing

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (ZCEU2)

84 80 Ben Had, I love you to death. The entire event was perfect, and you are an absolute angel!!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 07:41 PM (ptqGC)
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Isn't that the truth!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

85 We ran into Ladyl at the Whataburger in Love Field, and got to spend some time with her. We were on the same flight to ATL. The ATL flight ran over an hour late, and she was going to miss her connection. D'oh Boy and I made it to our Savannah flight just before it was due to leave. I tipped the wheel chair girl really well.

Ah crap!!! I almost stopped there for lunch. Dammit.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:42 PM (dUJdY)

86 Jane, I'm sorry I'm laughing but the last things my hubby and I would ever leave behind are his meds and our booze.

We may forget the bag with our clothing, but we're not losing the Val-U-Rite!

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 07:42 PM (RfzVr)

87 Did anyone drink the Everclear NaCly brought? I had tiny sip. Holy shit...

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:44 PM (dUJdY)

88 Congratulations and felicitations to all the TxMoMee attendees and organizers !
Really enjoying all the after-action commentary !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 07:44 PM (bwo3w)

89 I keep wanting to go to the MiMoMe but life gets in the way. I had Guard drill for the summer one and then a cardiac event that kept me from the fall one.

Maybe someone's trying to tell me something...

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:45 PM (cfSRQ)

90 Jane, said it in the food thread and will say it again here, I love You , Lady.

For those of you that haven't met Jane D'oh she is the epitome of kindness and graciousness.

And, she can cook shrimp to perfection.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:45 PM (7CZws)

91 Congratulations and felicitations to all the TxMoMee attendees and organizers !
Really enjoying all the after-action commentary !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (arJlL)

92 For those of you that haven't met Jane D'oh she is the epitome of kindness and graciousness.

And, she can cook shrimp to perfection.


Amen to that!!! She's a gem and I could not stop eating the shrimp!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (dUJdY)

93 Sorry I missed it! I were in FLA and got home last night late. Today I am putting together my equipment for the start of big game season, elk and deer. Got a place that me and one of my Scouts and his Dad are gonna go to that is shotgun only. Right on the Missouri. Should be interesting. I'm rigging the Remingtons (12 for me and the 20 for the Scout) up with their rifled barrels.

And also setting up my 30-06 for helk

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (gMngZ)

94 76
Hmm, a lot of military planes fueling at the local airport last night
and today. Just heard another sound of freedom take off from this
little burg.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:40 PM (m+0jM)

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Probably a drill weekend for the Guard or Reserve.

We share a municipal airport, so you'd see similar sights on drill weekends.

I use past tense because they took our planes away.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (cfSRQ)

95 Ben Had @ 74- Working the range was my pleasure. The thing many people forget about shooting is to see how much people enjoying shooting, especially young people.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (UUkQp)

96 95 Ben Had @ 74- Working the range was my pleasure. The thing many people forget about shooting is to see how much people enjoying shooting, especially young people.
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (UUkQp)
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And such a variety of guns to shoot!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:48 PM (MVjcR)

97 87
Did anyone drink the Everclear NaCly brought? I had tiny sip. Holy shit...

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:44 PM (dUJdY)

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You're supposed to mix it.

Unless you're really, really hardcore...

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:48 PM (cfSRQ)

98 Great shivs, bluebell!

My favorite secret shivs sort of look like jewelry, and in fact are jewelry. You'd never know they were shivs in hiding. No one has ever stopped me while wearing one, and they go well with my sterling knuckles.

I'd really like a brush shiv, but are they sharp enough when you need them?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:48 PM (U7k5w)

99 "BTW, the 22lr adapter kit for the CZ is as accurate as the 9mm."

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Damn you, JTB! Those have been a sore temptation to me. I may have to bust out the credit card after that recommendation.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 07:49 PM (j4zcI)

100 You're supposed to mix it.

Unless you're really, really hardcore...


Now you tell me.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:50 PM (dUJdY)

101 Did anyone drink the Everclear NaCly brought? I had tiny sip. Holy shit...
Posted by: Jewells45

That's good stuff.

But ya gotta be careful; if ya mix it with something to make the taste less obnoxious, you'll be knocked on your ass before ya know what hit ya.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:50 PM (arJlL)

102 Eromero, Those young couples and D'oh Boy make me have hope for the future.

One special gal could ride and shoot too.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:50 PM (7CZws)

103 So if I was to start planning to attend the next TxMoMe, and I would be traveling by train, where would you all recommend I detrain at?

The obvious choice would be Dallas, but I am concerned about driving a rental car in a congested metro area that I am unfamiliar with. Fort Worth any better?

Or could get off in Cleburne and I'm wondering if that might be the best for a more peaceful drive.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 07:51 PM (RfzVr)

104 skip @ 83- See, the real name thing can be...problematical. Mrs. E asked m why I didn't put my real name on the tag. I told her I didn't want everybody in the world knowing I'm Clint Eastwood. I meant Eromero.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:52 PM (UUkQp)

105 I only wish I had thought of inventing the brushiv. I could have retired at 30.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 07:52 PM (M9b/h)

106 I only wish I had thought of inventing the brushiv. I could have retired at 30.
Posted by: bluebell

Next year ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (arJlL)

107 Believe when I say the open bar was stocked with no less than Tito's and Woodford reserve.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (7CZws)

108 Thanks so much to Ben Had and the wonderful hosts! This was my first MoMe and a total blast.

Weasel, really appreciate the clinic that you put on on Friday. I can't shoot for shit but learned a ton! Mirage is now top of the list of things to constantly evaluate.

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (SDmIR)

109 105 I only wish I had thought of inventing the brushiv. I could have retired at 30.
Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 07:52 PM (M9b/h)

Exactly! I found my sterling shiv jewelry quite by accident, and always buy pretty ones when I see them on ebay

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (U7k5w)

110 I'd really like a brush shiv, but are they sharp enough when you need them?
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:48 PM (U7k5w)


Buy one and get a Boston butt to try it out on.

then you can either try out your surgical stapler too, or just put cloves of garlic into the holes and make a nice Sunday roast.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 07:54 PM (xG/b0)

111 Guy in Washington SSR has his guns confiscated under Red Flag Laws solely because of his alleged "Neo-Nazi" affiliations.

hill.cm/Gj7b3eC

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 20, 2019 07:54 PM (LOOYt)

112
I use past tense because they took our planes away.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM (cfSRQ)

Heh, may help that it is a military refueling site. You know, flyover country.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:54 PM (m+0jM)

113 cfomom, Cleburn definitely.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:55 PM (7CZws)

114
Weasel, really appreciate the clinic that you put on on Friday. I can't shoot for shit but learned a ton! Mirage is now top of the list of things to constantly evaluate.
Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (SDmIR)
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Well it was my pleasure to have you there! Thank you, and glad you enjoyed it.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:55 PM (MVjcR)

115 Next year ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (arJlL)
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Of course!

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 07:55 PM (M9b/h)

116 Well I'm gonna go sit in the easy chair and pet the dog. I stayed up way to late last night and had a wee bit too much to drink. If I can make, I may drop in to the ONT.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:56 PM (dUJdY)

117 And, she can cook shrimp to perfection.

Amen to that!!! She's a gem and I could not stop eating the shrimp!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 20, 2019 07:47 PM

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Was that the thrice repeated shrimp recipe from the Deplorable Gourmet?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 07:56 PM (Dhht7)

118 Am probably going to some place warm for laughing at this. Nyah.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y26pozbf

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 07:56 PM (xcJZI)

119 Yep. Deplorable Gourmet made a solid showing at the MoMe

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:57 PM (SDmIR)

120
Was that the thrice repeated shrimp recipe from the Deplorable Gourmet?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 07:56 PM (Dhht7)
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So good we used it 3 times!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:57 PM (MVjcR)

121 In Exile, Thank you so much for coming. It was such a pleasure to meet you and your lovely wife.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:57 PM (7CZws)

122 Glad everyone had fun. I'm going to check out early tonight, stuff to do.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)

123 First thing I did when I got home from the MoMe was to purchase a spotting scope and a shorter bipod. Next up is a great .22lr rifle since I only have access to a 100yd range

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:58 PM (SDmIR)

124 122 Glad everyone had fun. I'm going to check out early tonight, stuff to do.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)
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'Night!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 07:58 PM (MVjcR)

125 Am probably going to some place warm for laughing at this. Nyah.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y26pozbf
Posted by: Anna Puma

Nah, that was pretty good.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)

126 Does anyone know offhand what the cyclic rate of a M1919 is? The one at the MoMe was slow enough that you could count the shots "onetwothreefourfive." I wondered if maybe it had been modified to slow it down but forgot to ask the guys who operated it.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 07:59 PM (qc+VF)

127 Sad that I didn't get to watch the 'Ettes on the machine gun. Have heard that much fun was had

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:59 PM (SDmIR)

128 55 I'm still not seething with envy. Nope. Not a bit.
Posted by: Insomniac

Jealousy and envy are of the evil one.

Just be happy for those fortunate enough to attend .
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:33 PM (arJlL)

I'm happy for those that got to go. Well, most of them anyway. I really really would have liked to have been there is all. Maybe next year.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:00 PM (NWiLs)

129 123 First thing I did when I got home from the MoMe was to purchase a spotting scope and a shorter bipod. Next up is a great .22lr rifle since I only have access to a 100yd range
Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 07:58 PM (SDmIR)
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Great! You know how to contact me if you have any questions. Please do!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:00 PM (MVjcR)

130 *waves at the Horde from somewhere in KS*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 20, 2019 08:00 PM (2h9uQ)

131 A mere M1919?

*waves hand in dismissal*

Get a German MG3 in 7.62NATO and then we are talking.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 08:01 PM (xcJZI)

132 A local pawn and gun shop is across from a Walmart super center. Since Walmart went crazy, and stopped selling a lot of ammo, the shop owner dramatically increased his ammo inventory, and his sales are great. Free enterprise 1, SJW 0.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 20, 2019 08:01 PM (C1Lsn)

133 Good one, Anna Puma!

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 08:01 PM (UUkQp)

134 Next year ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (arJlL)
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Of course!
Posted by: bluebell

LOL !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:02 PM (arJlL)

135 Buy one and get a Boston butt to try it out on.

then you can either try out your surgical stapler too, or just put cloves of garlic into the holes and make a nice Sunday roast.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 07:54 PM (xG/b0)

I don't think a surgical stapler is practical for travel, and some are quite like weapons with the handles and all. A brush would work well.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:02 PM (U7k5w)

136 LOL, Anna !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 08:02 PM (bwo3w)

137 Helena Handbasket, safe trip home and don't get stopped with that shiv in possession.

Thank You so much and once again, the deep fried bacon was incredible.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 08:03 PM (7CZws)

138 So- most unique weapon? Most popular? How many admitted to packing? You know, all the good stuff.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:04 PM (+a9vj)

139 I'm confused. Is the potpourri bowl where you stash the bathroom pistol?
Spice to see you. [bam, bam, bam]

Posted by: McBain at October 20, 2019 08:04 PM (Dh1wo)

140 Went to the range here, far edge of Chicagoland (spit), where as a non-resident, I can shoot my own ammo but cannot buy any.

A non-rez can purchase handgun or shotgun or long gun ammo if carrying a valid HUNTING license from the state of one's ID issue. Go figure. And fuck Illinois.

Shot the two Rugers, the Mark III Government Target .22LR, and the SP101 3" wheelgun, using 38 SPL, not the big louds.

10 rounds of .22, 5 of 38. At 7.5 yards. I was able to settle quickly to 2" groups with the .22 and 3-1/2" with the SP, firing off and on single and double action.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 20, 2019 08:04 PM (4ZE6o)

141 "Does anyone know offhand what the cyclic rate of a M1919 is?"

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About 500 rpm. American military automatic weapons of the era are VERY slow. A continuation of the Ordnance Dept's hatred of ammo wastage dating back to the Civil War.

You can easily squeeze off single shots from an M3 "Greasegun" SMG.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (j4zcI)

142 Anna, Carter needs to be in there somewhere.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (m+0jM)

143 I'm happy for those that got to go. Well, most of them anyway. I really really would have liked to have been there is all. Maybe next year.
Posted by: Insomniac

Mebbe we'll run into each other.

If I may ask, WHY aren't you happy for everyone ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (arJlL)

144 Planning to go to the toy store in the near future.

Maybe one piece to conceal carry and one AR-15 for home defense.

Does that seem as well-rounded as possible for only two items?

I suspect I will end up with the S&W EZ rack, but still need to take test drives. I want to try Ruger LCP but sales lady said I will probably prefer the S&W when I try them out. Don't know where to begin on the AR-15.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (i/wJA)

145 This year's Texas Mo Meet was the best, ever!

Until next year's that is.

Heartfelt thanks to Ben Had for the...well... EVERY thing. Such a friend to us all.

And special thanks to Rancher Bob, who patiently bore my visit this morning, helping me (and finally found) a mis-located pistol in the midst of a carload of gear.

I feared I had left it at one firing line or another, but no, it was in the "wrong" compartment of my computer case. And at only 12 oz., it lends itself to not being an obvious "weight" in one place or another.

Found it, got the car re-packed (not an inconsiderable task) and back on the road.

Arrived in Galveston about 4:30, had dinner and melded with the recliner for a while.

Now, alas, it's time to go unload the car. I could really use a team of Sherpas to help with this, you know.

It was AWESOME meeting so many Legends of the Horde, Lurkers and outright Newbies. I'm honored and humbled to be counted among ya.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 08:06 PM (QzJWU)

146 142 Anna, Carter needs to be in there somewhere.
Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (m+0jM)

And Pelosi. Definitely. Not that I'm wishing death on anyone, because I'm not the Grim Reaper, so that would be wrong.

Posted by: April at October 20, 2019 08:06 PM (OX9vb)

147 And thanks to everyone who let D'oh Boy fire their various weapons. He really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:07 PM (ptqGC)

148 Jim, Thanks is in no way sufficient.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 08:07 PM (7CZws)

149 If I may ask, WHY aren't you happy for everyone ?"

Ah, you're new...ish.

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (6qErC)

150 I hear Jimmah Carter just recently gave himself a black eye.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (xcJZI)

151 Jim, thanks so much for your counsel on both weapons and cameras. Though I'm now on the hook for some serious spend on both

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (SDmIR)

152 Someone told me D'oh Boy was pretty good at the 500 yd. range.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (ptqGC)

153 If I may ask, WHY aren't you happy for everyone ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:05 PM (arJlL)

You see, it all started when I was about four years old...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:09 PM (NWiLs)

154 138 So- most unique weapon? Most popular? How many admitted to packing? You know, all the good stuff.
Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:04 PM (+a9vj)
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Too many to count, but I'd say the M1919 and an M1D. And about a dozen others.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

155 Ben Had, I want to know if you liked the Hawaiian banana bread and chocolate peanut butter one.

Also, that wrought iron thingy is an oyster knife, made by an artisan in Savannah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (ptqGC)

156 You see, it all started when I was about four years old...

... when I discovered Penthouse magazine.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (xcJZI)

157 152 Someone told me D'oh Boy was pretty good at the 500 yd. range.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (ptqGC)
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That was me!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

158 I hear Jimmah Carter just recently gave himself a black eye.

It was a thing of beauty.

Going to hell for that one.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (m+0jM)

159 want to try Ruger LCP but sales lady said I will probably prefer the S&W when I try them out. "

The LC Rugers are small - easy to carry, but I've found the SW a bit easier to handle.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (6qErC)

160 Ah, you're new...ish.

Heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse

Nope !

Catholic !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (arJlL)

161 156 You see, it all started when I was about four years old...

... when I discovered Penthouse magazine.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (xcJZI)

Heh. No, that wasn't until much later.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (NWiLs)

162 Someone told me D'oh Boy was pretty good at the 500 yd. range.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (ptqGC)

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That was me!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)


So all that Marine Corp(se) training paid off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)

163 160 Ah, you're new...ish.

Heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse

Nope !

Catholic !
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (arJlL)

So, guilty as charged.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

164 "Don't know where to begin on the AR-15."

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You'll get lots of answers to that and it can be overwhelming. My suggestion for easily available and relatively cheap would be to look into the S+W M+P15 Sport and the Ruger AR-556. Been seeing a lot of good deals on the Ruger lately. Read some reviews on those and see where that takes you.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (j4zcI)

165 ...Jim, thanks so much for your counsel on both weapons and cameras. Though I'm now on the hook for some serious spend on both

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (SDmIR)



Seems all the cool hobbies are the spendy ones, yes?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (QzJWU)

166 So all that Marine Corp(se) training paid off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)

Thanks, Obama?

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (SDmIR)

167 I hear Jimmah Carter just recently gave himself a black eye.

Funny how often that happens.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (dzJ3R)

168 I hear Jimmah Carter just recently gave himself a black eye.
Posted by: Anna Puma

I bet it was Roslyn.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (arJlL)

169
So all that Marine Corp(se) training paid off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)
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Apparently so. I had fun hanging out with him.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (MVjcR)

170 Thanks, Obama?

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (SDmIR)


Hellz no.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (ptqGC)

171 You see, it all started when I was about four years old..."

Snort

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:13 PM (6qErC)

172 Seems all the cool hobbies are the spendy ones, yes?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (QzJWU)

Understatement of the year

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:13 PM (SDmIR)

173 Super glad all of you who went had a great time and weather

4am comes early even on weekends I don't need to get up.
May all your dreams end in gunsmoke.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (ZCEU2)

174 Weasel, our son really enjoyed you, and the Cuban cigars.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

175 Heh. No, that wasn't until much later."

5...ish?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (6qErC)

176 I got a kick out of Doh Boy when he came back to the pistol area and goes "Can I shoot the Luger again?"

Posted by: Panhandler at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (9YJH4)

177 165 ...Jim, thanks so much for your counsel on both weapons and cameras. Though I'm now on the hook for some serious spend on both

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:08 PM (SDmIR)


Seems all the cool hobbies are the spendy ones, yes?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (QzJWU)


Guns, planes, boats, fast cars, women...yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (NWiLs)

178 130 *waves at the Horde from somewhere in KS*
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 20, 2019 08:0

Hi Helena! Thank you for the lift yoo!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (/bbyo)

179 174 Weasel, our son really enjoyed you, and the Cuban cigars.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (ptqGC)
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Good job, Mom & Dad.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (MVjcR)

180 The LC Rugers are small - easy to carry, but I've found the SW a bit easier to handle.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:10 PM (6qErC)


Thanks, Anon. I'm expecting that the small size would mean more of the percussive power would be transmitted to my tender li'l hands.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (i/wJA)

181 Thank you Ben Had. That was my thought, but it is not familiar territory to me, so hard to guess. I'd much rather drive a few miles more but have less stress.

Cleburne and Corsicana both look like nice towns from what I've been able to glean and riding the Texas Eagle will be great fun!

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (RfzVr)

182 Damn, I wish I didn't have to get up so damn early. 172 comments is just the thread warming up. Have fun, kids. Keep your booger hooks off the bamg switch.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (j4zcI)

183 The Morons are just a thoroughly enjoyable group of people to spend time with. Both on the interwebs and meatspace

Posted by: In Exile at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (SDmIR)

184 I got a kick out of Doh Boy when he came back to the pistol area and goes "Can I shoot the Luger again?"

Posted by: Panhandler at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (9YJH4)


Yeah, my late dad left his guns to us, and included was a Luger. Mr. D'oh was liberal-ish at the time and we sold all Daddy's guns. D'oh Boy is still unhappy about that choice.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (ptqGC)

185 175 Heh. No, that wasn't until much later."

5...ish?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:14 PM (6qErC)

What can I say, I had a very sheltered and repressed life.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (NWiLs)

186 Jane, I shared your largess with our hosts and we flipped and I got the chocolate peanut butter one so I WON.

Would you mind if loan the oyster knife to B/J as they are planning on coming to your oyster roast.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (7CZws)

187 Guns, planes, boats, fast cars, women...yeah, pretty much.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (NWi

So cartel leaders are really just hobbyists?

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

188 Well, I spent the weekend cleaning and organizing the garage. Under Mrs. Red's supervision. It looks much neater. But I'll be darned I can find anything. And all my range stuff went to winter quarters in the basement.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (+a9vj)

189 Jim @ 145- The Eromeromobile is in the garage, unloaded except for carry pieces, personal go-bags, and and Pepper dog stuff. Madison The Cat was happy to see the dog and I suppose us as well. She jumped on my lap and headbutted me. So tomorrow, I will unload the vehicle and clean gubs.I'm pleased you found the missing item, and amazed the table we had the handguns was sorted out in the end. At the busiest period there were a minimum 10 different handguns with attendant magazines and ammo on that table and open bags and boxes to the rear. Jim, it was a pleasure to watch you run the drills and next year I even intend to shoot.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (UUkQp)

190 Jane, I shared your largess with our hosts and we flipped and I got the chocolate peanut butter one so I WON.



Would you mind if loan the oyster knife to B/J as they are planning on coming to your oyster roast.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (7CZws)


Thumbs up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (ptqGC)

191 187 Guns, planes, boats, fast cars, women...yeah, pretty much.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (NWi

So cartel leaders are really just hobbyists?
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

No, but that's how they're able to fund all those hobbies.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

192 My suggestion for easily available and relatively cheap would be to look into the S+W M+P15 Sport and the Ruger AR-556. Been seeing a lot of good deals on the Ruger lately. Read some reviews on those and see where that takes you.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (j4zcI)


Oooh, nice suggestions! Thanks, Taro! Seems like there are a lot of makes to consider.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (i/wJA)

193 Welp, I'm exhausted.


'night everyone. I'll be back tomorrow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 08:18 PM (ptqGC)

194 *waves at the Horde from somewhere in KS*
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 20, 2019 08:00 PM (2h9uQ)

You made it to the MoMe?

Hive Five.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 08:18 PM (x8Wzq)

195 192 My suggestion for easily available and relatively cheap would be to look into the S+W M+P15 Sport and the Ruger AR-556. Been seeing a lot of good deals on the Ruger lately. Read some reviews on those and see where that takes you.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 20, 2019 08:12 PM (j4zcI)

Oooh, nice suggestions! Thanks, Taro! Seems like there are a lot of makes to consider.
Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 08:17 PM (i/wJA)

There are a number of AR15s out now for $500 or less, brand new. This is like the Golden Age of the AR if you're looking to buy one.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

Food Thread: Keep It Simple Stupid, Or: Keep It Simple And Tasty Stupid

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This is what you do when you are stuck for something to eat for dinner but aren't willing to settle for something crappy. That's a fried egg, some sauteed chicken, a handful of arugula, and some sauteed vegetables. The topper is out of a jar of chili-garlic crisp from Trader Joe's. That whole thing probably took 10 minutes to make and was, by all reports (it's not my concoction, but I trust the cook who made it) it hit the spot.

The point is: why settle for crappy and boring food? With a bit of thought and some spelunking into your spice rack or the back of your refrigerator you can make some mighty fine tasting food. There are hundreds of fantastic pastes and dressings and fun concoctions that are as close as the spice aisle or the oriental section at your local market.

So give it a try. It doesn't really matter what you make, just jazz it up with some thing bright and pungent and vibrant. Hell, plain old scrambled eggs topped with chili crisp are great!

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After months (years?) of dithering and delaying and procrastinating, I finally ordered a "sous vide" machine from Anova. They came out with a new one recently, and by pre-ordering I saved a fair amount of money. I also added to my impatience level because I had to wait an entire month! By the way, I chose the Anova over the other popular brand (Joule), because it does not require an account and internet connectivity to operate. I'll be damned if I am going to cede more of my privacy to industry, however trivial it might seem.

So, the thing seems well built, it is simple to operate, and I can even control it from my phone via bluetooth or my wifi network. That sounds stupid, but it's sort of convenient and amusing.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the whole idea, it is cooking food in a water bath at the exact temperature you choose. So if you like your steaks cooked to 131°, that's what you get, without the inconsistency of cooking in a pan or on a grill or in the oven. And it's not magic, it doesn't require any skill, and it really works.

But there is a kicker...the food is ugly. It's not browned or crisp or caramelized, so there is an additional step that is required for most "sous vide" dishes, and that is the tough(er) part. But with a little practice and some trial and error it is manageable. The technique is worthwhile, and for some things like fish I really think it is better, but it won't replace traditional cooking, and there are some dishes that you simply can't make with "sous vide," like my dinner tonight...roast chicken!

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This is long on supposition and very, very short on actual facts and data.
Chance of negative food standards impact from Brexit rises
And they get in a two-fer...a shot at Brexit and a shot at America.

I'm sort of sick of the constant "The Sky Is Falling!" crap from the media about our food supply. It is safe, and when there are failures the market and our overbearing regulatory state smack the crap out of the offenders. I never worry about food safety, and I hope you folks don't either.

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I found this video when I was poking around for "sous vide" information (did someone around here recommend her?). This is exactly the kind of dish I love. Simple, fun technique, and it looks like it tastes great.

There is nothing earthshaking about it, but it's simple and fast and clean up is a breeze.

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There are restaurant lists with rankings. And there are restaurant lists with purpose. This is the latter.

And clearly there are some pompous asses in charge of headlines over at Bon Appetit. But that's not the best part of this list.

The first restaurant on the list was just shut down for failing a health inspection!

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And we thought that Skip only made breakfast!

Stromboli a la Skip

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Although...I might quibble with the "stromboli" part. My impression of stromboli is that it is rolled, but this looks more like a calzone.

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From garden - 2 ripe Anaheim peppers grilled and peeled, couple ripe sweet peppers , 1/3 tomato, basil leaves and oregano, and few slices of onion all sauteed. Chopped up 2" pepperoni and 1/4 pound of sliced ham placed all on a rolled out pizza dough, topped with mozzarella and provolone. Folded up and a wash with egg into 400 degrees with a pizza stone.

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Either way, it looks good.

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My apologies to the Moron commenter who sent me this link. I saved the link and discarded his email, and I simply don't remember who it was! My apologies, especially since you sent it in the nick of time...my last few chili attempts were...um...fine. Boring, bland, and useful for nothing but fuel.

There's No Chili Like Texas Chili and These 10 Recipes Do It Best

Every single one of these looks great. All nine of them. What...there are 10 recipes? Nope. Turkey chili isn't chili, and I won't have it in my kitchen.

And now I remember! Hrothgar...thank you!

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Food and cooking tips, Castelvetrano olives with a sprinkle of chili flakes, young wild pigs, crisp bacon (although I am moving toward less crisp), thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

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1 First.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:01 PM (Dhht7)

2 I'll summon the Corgi's.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:01 PM (Dhht7)

3 Corgi's summoned.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:02 PM (Dhht7)

4 I do egg plates like that ever so often

Posted by: Tengo hambre at October 20, 2019 04:02 PM (5aCkc)

5 Have only thrown fried egg on beef. Steak or burgers. Never thought of using chicken or pork for that matter.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:05 PM (Dhht7)

6 There's a guy out in the Berkshires that cooks a mean chili

forget his name

Askhole sumptin another

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 04:05 PM (rpxSz)

7 5
Have only thrown fried egg on beef. Steak or burgers. Never thought of using chicken or pork for that matter.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:05 PM (Dhht7)

++++Me, too. Not sure how I feel about this.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 20, 2019 04:06 PM (sIyWR)

8 Skip, your stromboli looks awesome!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:07 PM (dyO5W)

9 Skip's house for lunch!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 20, 2019 04:07 PM (jYnPD)

10 I must say, that after winning the greatest Wisconsin Maple Syrup ever at the TxMoMe, the only way to truly appreciate it is having it liberally poured over French Toast.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 04:08 PM (lD3vL)

11 Chance of negative food standards impact from Brexit rises

Ok, I'm stupider for glancing at that article. Oh, and eff Wales.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:09 PM (Dhht7)

12 I've had biscuits and gravy with chicken and fried over easy eggs on top of the biscuits, smothered in the gravy. Can't do it often, but it's good. Also steak benedict. Same as regular eggs bene, but with rare- medium rare filets. Heaven.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 04:11 PM (dyO5W)

13 CBD--

Speaking of sous vide and chili, I cut up a cheap roast (chuck or even shoulder) in bite size pieces, season with salt and pepper, and then sous vide for 24 hours. Mix with your favorite chili seasonings. Makes the best chili I've ever had (and I'm a native Texan).

Ditto on the disdain for turkey chili. If you've got leftover turkey and want to do something exotic with it, try turkey mole (pronounced MOH-lay), a more classic recipe. You can buy prepared mole sauce pretty easily.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 20, 2019 04:11 PM (S+f+m)

14 Could have rolled it but it was fairly stuffed.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:14 PM (ZCEU2)

15 I bought some dried habanero flakes and dried jalapeno flakes from Sonoran Spice Company to make Bloody Mary mix with for a 9 am tailgate party I was bartending.

If you like spicy chili peppers but don't like prepping them, these really add great flavor and heat. The Bloody Mary mix was a smashing success for those that wanted them spicy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 20, 2019 04:14 PM (LQMoO)

16 When I was a kid my dad got those very often in place of a pizza, ham, steak or meatball.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:15 PM (ZCEU2)

17 Damn, I haven't eaten yet today.

So, I've gone from cooking everything from scratch to pretty much buying everything pre-made. This is what happens when you go back to work from being a stay at home. Costco had some sous vide lamb shanks I'm going to heat up for dinner with some roasted veggies.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 04:16 PM (UUBmN)

18 For a quick meal, nothing beats a good homemade taco.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:17 PM (5aX2M)

19 whoa! Skip brings the 'boli chops!

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 04:18 PM (JaLUs)

20 Skip - You are a man of many talents.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 20, 2019 04:18 PM (sIyWR)

21 WTF? Food wasn't plentiful, or safe, or whatever, prior to the EU? Pure idiocy, like most of what is said/published on any important topic any more.


Wow, that strom/calzone looks great! Dinner at Skip's tonight everybody!


CBD, thanks, I do that [improvised/leftover/jazzed up] food all the time. One of my favorite things.


After the gym, just did great grilled cheese sammiches. Good bread, lots of butter [the essentials], good cheese - but then added something. Caramelized balsamic onions [from a jar - though I do make these occasionally to use on burgers or chicken], and a walnut-infused mustard. Fantastic.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:18 PM (QDnY+)

22 Mmmmm....Texas Chili.


They only use the best parts of the carrot.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:19 PM (bEuc8)

23 my chili is simmering on the stove. wish i had fritos though.

Posted by: trapper's girl at October 20, 2019 04:19 PM (nC4FN)

24 Damnit, CBD. Why didn't you bring this awesome food to the TXMOME? By the way a lurker brought some really good shrimp salad, as was all of the chow we had. Weather was great, and people were just the bestest. We did miss you though. There was a M11A1 there for you to shoot which Ex-Ex and Hrothgar really liked.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 04:20 PM (UUkQp)

25 Waiting for the weather to ever be less than perfect to help me finally do my mole poblano again. About 4O+ ingredients, I roast and grind the nuts and spices myself. Used to do it, years ago, and was amazing, so many layers of flavor. Friends/colleagues who'd had it would ask me if/when I was making it again.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:22 PM (QDnY+)

26 are those potatoes in the first egg pic?

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 04:22 PM (JaLUs)

27 Nice. A proper Mole is so good that you can cook a goat and it tastes great!

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:22 PM (bEuc8)

28 What was the machine gun at the TXMoMee? Or is that a spoiler for the gun thread?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:23 PM (QDnY+)

29 For a quick meal, nothing beats a good homemade taco.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:17

Agree. But it's ok to buy the shells, right?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:25 PM (Dhht7)

30 >>For a quick meal, nothing beats a good homemade taco.


I always tell Huma this.

Posted by: Hillary at October 20, 2019 04:27 PM (bEuc8)

31 25. Walnut-infused mustard sounds interesting. So does your mole poblano, put me down for one jar, thanks.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 04:27 PM (JaLUs)

32 I want to thank Jane D'oh and Mr. D'oh for cooking the shrimp at the MoMe to perfection.

Stephen Price Blair brought his incredible eggplant recipe again.

Nurse ratched turn a good salmon into an epicurean delight.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:27 PM (7CZws)

33 My grandma turned me on to Middle eastern Sumac when I was a kid.

Found a jar of African Harissa spice on the clearance rack at the Jewel for like a dollar.

Both are indispensable in my kitchen

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at October 20, 2019 04:28 PM (o/b07)

34
What was the machine gun at the TXMoMee? Or is that a spoiler for the gun thread?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:23 PM (QDnY+)




M1919 Browning. Because I'm an insensitive prick that doesn't care about being a spoiler. *sticks out tongue*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2019 04:28 PM (eXA4G)

35 >>Nurse ratched turn a good salmon into an epicurean delight.


The secret ingredient?


Pounce

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:28 PM (bEuc8)

36 Agree. But it's ok to buy the shells, right?

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I just do the toasted white soft-tacos, because im a gringo and they're real quick. Plus, I think they're a little less fattening than the deep fried corn kind.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:28 PM (5aX2M)

37 rhomboid, for the gun thread. It was there.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:29 PM (7CZws)

38 Just made what might be THE top item on the Ease of Preparation/Flavor of Result ratio scale.


Misissippi slow cooker pot roast. Jane D'oh originally brought it to my attention, here. Probably literally not even 15 total minutes of work. Great pot roast.


Another slow cooker fave: pulled chicken. Also almost no work, at all, and very very good.


Chicken thighs [trimmed; on sale, cheap is part of the game here]

Basic rub spices [for me: smoked paprika, cumin, black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, salt]

Bottle of BBQ sauce [or home-made version]


Rub spices on chicken, toss in slow cooker, 7 hours later, remove chicken, shred, return to cooker, mix with BBQ sauce. Done. Delicious. By itself, in a sandwich.


Use all the time you've saved reloading 45ACP. Or doing push-ups. Or working on your Russian pronunciation.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:30 PM (QDnY+)

39 Garrett, there aren't any bad Roxy Music songs either

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 04:30 PM (PUmDY)

40 it's finally comfort food weather here but I don't have all the ingredients for lentil soup. Guess I'm headed to my fave burrito place down Delaware way.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 04:30 PM (JaLUs)

41 That chili garlic crisp is addictive and goes well with almost everything.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 04:31 PM (EZebt)

42 I never got into Roxy.

Loved the nipples and bush on the album covers, though.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:32 PM (bEuc8)

43 I have had stromboli both rolled, and folded calzone-style. Rolled is better for cheesier. Folded is better for saucier.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 04:33 PM (EZebt)

44 Rolled is better for cheesier. Folded is better for saucier.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 04:33 PM (EZebt)

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I'm both cheesy AND saucy. Just ask my girlfriend about my dumb jokes and smart mouth

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:35 PM (5aX2M)

45 Dang, M1919? Literally my *favorite* WWII machine gun.


Guess I'll have to make it out to the Big Sandy shoot in March, or stop by Battlefield Vegas sometime.


Am watching a documentary on the Battle of Moscow and there's footage of PPsh-41s being assembled. Whole wall lined with the suckers - sigh. Probably my favorite sub-gun, though of course the Thompson has its place.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:35 PM (QDnY+)

46 {{{Ben Had}}}

Did you guys have a good time?? I imagine there are some weary but happy folks today!!!

Posted by: Moki at October 20, 2019 04:35 PM (mFoNl)

47 The cabrito was marinated and roasted to perfection.

There was not a scrap left and people even had the bones to chew on.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:36 PM (7CZws)

48 I'm both cheesy AND saucy. Just ask my girlfriend about my dumb jokes and smart mouth 

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:35 PM (5aX2M)

**********

My wife won't let me have a girlfriend... she's such a bitch

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 20, 2019 04:37 PM (flINI)

49 Since YD mentioned tacos, it reminds me of 2-3 yrs ago asking for fish taco recipes on the Food Thread. Never had one, but daughter requested for b'day meal.

Got several suggestions from 'ettes. Ended up with some flounder, red cabbage, pico de gallo, guac, and blue taco shells and more. We had a wonderful meal for her b'day.

Never would have happened without CBD and his Food Thread. Thank you and Ace for providing this forum. (Not sucking up.)

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:37 PM (Dhht7)

50 Can't imagine kebab without sumac, now. Very good. Friend's Lebanese wife
switched me on to it a few years ago.

Harissa they even have at Trader Joe's now, but I haven't used it in anything.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:38 PM (QDnY+)

51 For the scotch fans (and really, who isn't): I just watched a wonderful show entitled Scotch: A Golden Dream, on Amazon Prime. It's part documentary on how scotch is made, part travelogue on the beauty of Scotland, and part biography of some of the old masters making scotch.

The main drawback is that it's not 5 pm yet. The other drawback is that they discuss and recommend Bruichladdich Black Art, which is $400 / bottle.
Otherwise, very enjoyable.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:38 PM (T6t7i)

52 Cabrito. Wow. The good stuff.


Gonna make me hit a Mexican super-market today.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:40 PM (QDnY+)

53 49 olddog, how is your lovely wife doing?

I agree, the food thread (heck all the threads) provide a great forum for the free exchange recipes. (Ideas too, but we're talking recipes right now.) There are some amazing cooks around here.

Posted by: Moki at October 20, 2019 04:41 PM (mFoNl)

54 Supper tonight is simple and costs around $5-9 bucks.

3 cans of Margaret Holmes seasoned butter beans
1 pound cooked ground chuck
2 slices crisp bacon, finely crumbled
splash of cream to thicken it up
dash of onion powder, pepper and Spike seasoning

My 9 year old said it's great, but like all these throw-togethers it'll taste even better tomorrow.

Posted by: Utility muffin at October 20, 2019 04:42 PM (ldmQR)

55 Thai pepper and sesame oil makes a fabulous chili oil, I hadn't thought about putting garlic in it.

Mmmm. Nom.

Few thing perk up a nice meal with rice in it.

CBD, if no one has suggested it, the traditional finishing for a sous vide meat is to run over it with the propane torch. A nice fan-tail nozzle might be what you need to avoid rowling burns across it.

when you are done, of course you can either finish that creme brule, or start silver soldering your copper plumbing.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 04:42 PM (xG/b0)

56 M1919 eh? Guess I will save the questions for the gun thread

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:42 PM (ZCEU2)

57 Make that around $5-6 bucks.

Posted by: Utility muffin at October 20, 2019 04:43 PM (ldmQR)

58 pep @ 51, it's 1540 in my piece of Texas and after some strenuous and ardent research I've found that Wild Turkey in a chilled glass is just about perfect for this time of day. Of course I'm a bit weakened by the MoMe and in need of 'invigoration'.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 04:43 PM (UUkQp)

59 Moki, The MoMe was so much fun. The weather was great and this Horde are the nicest people there are.

Getting to meet the D'oh family and Ladyl was a big time high for me and seeing all of regulars made it even better.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:43 PM (7CZws)

60 Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 04:20 PM (UUkQp)

Next year! And I am still trying to drag Nevergiveup and JJ Sefton along...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 04:45 PM (wYseH)

61 Bryan Ferry kills every cover he does,

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 04:45 PM (PUmDY)

62 Eromero, make sure you make it to the gun thread and a big hug for Mrs.E

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:46 PM (7CZws)

63 I love chili, stromboli/calzones and lazy thighs.

But first, a martini. One olive please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 04:47 PM (Z+IKu)

64 olddog, how is your lovely wife doing?

Posted by: Moki at October 20, 2019 04:41 PM

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Tough question. Yesterday she was good so I was going to make lemon garlic shrimp w/ spinach today. Unfortunately, woke up today and stomach not so good. She's napping now and I'm in quandary whether to cook or not. Will see how she feels when she wakes up.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:47 PM (Dhht7)

65 When the meat don't look done
and yeer a mo-ron
Propane.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 04:47 PM (RuIsu)

66 CBD, if no one has suggested it, the traditional finishing for a sous
vide meat is to run over it with the propane torch. A nice fan-tail
nozzle might be what you need to avoid rowling burns across it.

when you are done, of course you can either finish that creme brule, or start silver soldering your copper plumbing.


It's also useful for encouraging Extinction Rebellion twits to move along.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:47 PM (T6t7i)

67 Loved the nipples and bush on the album covers, though.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:32 PM (bEuc

They're hard not to love in any setting...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 04:48 PM (wYseH)

68 We agree that meals of many ingredients more often are better a day later.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:48 PM (ZCEU2)

69 Loved the nipples and bush on the album covers, though.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:32 PM (bEuc

They're hard not to love in any setting...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 04:48 PM (wYseH)

********

Hi Boys!

Posted by: HILLARY! at October 20, 2019 04:49 PM (flINI)

70 the traditional finishing for a sous vide meat is
to run over it with the propane torch.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 04:42 PM (xG/b0)

One of my friends whose taste I trust has sworn off propane finishing. he has compared propane vs. pan or grill and claims that the propane adds a discernible flavor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 04:50 PM (wYseH)

71 Guys. You guys. I was all set to go to Texas. But shit went pear-shaped financially and I had to cancel my plans.

next year, though.

I normally hate any kind of gathering involving anyone outside my immediate family (Hell, office parties are a friggin' chore - even though I work and chat with these people daily). But I've been to two Colorado meetups, and I truly had a great time both times. It's a rare thing that I feel relaxed around a group, especially since most of the group is stacked in tiny gray boxes. My retirement plans include visiting meetups all over the country.

The Horde is a unique phenomenon. We need to cherish it.

And one of these times someone needs to lure The Boss to a meetup.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 04:52 PM (x8Wzq)

72 This should be a good gubthread, Ben Had. Everybody is still amped up by that cordite smell.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 04:53 PM (UUkQp)

73 >>One of my friends whose taste I trust has sworn off propane finishing. he has compared propane vs. pan or grill and claims that the propane adds a discernible flavor.


Your friend is a Commie Fag.

Posted by: Hank Hill at October 20, 2019 04:54 PM (bEuc8)

74 >>And one of these times someone needs to lure The Boss to a meetup.


We should just have one when he tries to jump the Snake River Canyon on his Vespa.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 04:54 PM (bEuc8)

75 Drop ordinary corn tortillas into a bread toaster. Not a perfect alternative to frying in oil (kinda leathery), but it's low calorie and there's no messy leftover oil to handle. Nuke corn tortilla into steamy softness.

Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2019 04:54 PM (K3B2k)

76 pep at October 20, 2019 04:38 PM (T6t7i)

In 1982 I bought a bottle of MacAllan's 18 yr. old Scotch for $40.00! Can't believe what it is now.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 04:54 PM (u5LFV)

77 One of my friends whose taste I trust has sworn off
propane finishing. he has compared propane vs. pan or grill and claims
that the propane adds a discernible flavor.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I prefer the PFAS tang from teflon-coated pans.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:55 PM (T6t7i)

78 Pug, it's always wonderful to see you and your wife at the Morondezvous.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 04:55 PM (i/wJA)

79 Grocery store had chicken quarters 89 cents/lb. today. Got 6lbs. Will grill half for daughter and me. Make soup for wife. Win-Win.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:55 PM (Dhht7)

80 Every november is the Casi chilicookoff. In Terlingua

I have two family members who are judges in this event.

We have discussed the chilis made at this competition. I say that they are all virtually the same in texture and flavor. I looked at dozens of the winning recipes and runner ups for the last few decades. I understand the need for NO one chili to look different from another for judging purposes may be necessary but then there is no truly individual, outstanding chili tho they may taste good.

They both have told me 'tis true.

Chili should be an extension of 'self' .

My chili would not be allowed at Terlingua.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 04:55 PM (5aCkc)

81 In 1982 I bought a bottle of MacAllan's 18 yr. old Scotch for $40.00! Can't believe what it is now.


Posted by: Grannymimi


If my math is correct, it's a MacAllan 55.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:56 PM (T6t7i)

82 serving eggs and chicken meat in the same dish isn't food...

it's pollo-genocide.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 04:56 PM (Kyj0g)

83 rhomboid--I'm so impressed that you make your own mole sauce! Back when I was a serious foodie, I did that--once. The flavor was definitely superior, but I couldn't justify the time expenditure.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 20, 2019 04:57 PM (S+f+m)

84 82
serving eggs and chicken meat in the same dish isn't food...

it's pollo-genocide.


Sounds like that would be distinctly non-kosher.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:57 PM (T6t7i)

85 olddog, I'm glad someone else appreciates the goodness that is blue corn.

It makes divine enchiladas as well. I do mine with duck.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 04:57 PM (7CZws)

86 Whiskey isn't supposed to age once in the bottle, but that isn't my experience

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 04:57 PM (ZCEU2)

87 703, haha

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 04:59 PM (PUmDY)

88 [86
Whiskey isn't supposed to age once in the bottle, but that isn't my experience

Posted by: Skip


Yeah, that was a little joke. Very little.

It makes divine enchiladas as well. I do mine with duck.

That sounds awesome.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 04:59 PM (T6t7i)

89 Sitting on tarmac in ATL heading home to Savannah after awesome TX MoMe.

We have some spicy, crispy fried onions our Sri Lankan friends brought us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 04:59 PM (SyYPU)

90 Pug, it's always wonderful to see you and your wife at the Morondezvous.
Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 04:55 PM (i/wJA)

My bride is even more of a wallflower than I am, but each time as we depart, she says she gets it, she gets why I am so drawn to this weird venue.

Best to you and hubby.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 05:00 PM (x8Wzq)

91 Corked booze continues to change in the bottle. Hermetically sealed, not so much.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 05:00 PM (RuIsu)

92 The ad just above the Food Thread said "How to spot fake CBD".

After pondering this, I'm not sure. I mean, c'mon, even a bot would be programmed to badmouth maple syrup on French Toast, or spew Red Sox H8.

Given there are no hashes for the thread content posts, how DO we know we're getting real, authentic CBD, and not fake CBD?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 05:00 PM (DMUuz)

93 LoneRanger @80- My chili won't be allowed at Terlingua neither. I put both beef and pork in mine, and....wait for it.....beans! But no effing carrots. And I serve it over white rice with sharp cheddar cheese, chopped sweet onions, and cornbread. I is not from Texas but like Travis and Bonham came from South Carolina and here is where I make my stand.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 05:01 PM (UUkQp)

94 Wife put together some scalloped potatoes to go with the tri-tip I'm about to put on the pellet grill.

Mmmm.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 05:01 PM (WEBkv)

95 Eromero!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 05:02 PM (SyYPU)

96 93 LoneRanger @80- My chili won't be allowed at Terlingua neither. I put both beef and pork in mine, and....wait for it.....beans! But no effing carrots. And I serve it over white rice with sharp cheddar cheese, chopped sweet onions, and cornbread. I is not from Texas but like Travis and Bonham came from South Carolina and here is where I make my stand.
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 05:01 PM (UUkQp)
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Is this a dinner invitation? Because it sounds pretty darn good.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 05:02 PM (WEBkv)

97 Propane finishing with an odd flavor? Probably the result of dirt, who knows what sort of industrial filth and corrosion inside the propane bottle.

Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2019 05:02 PM (K3B2k)

98 Happy eating Horde. If I tell you how fabulous the food was a the Texas Mome, you'll aready be making plans to attend next year's!

Holy cow!!!


And, oh yeah, I'm stuck in an airport with a missed connection as per usual.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:04 PM (MaZ4y)

99 Hi, Ben Had. It's hard to find blue corn masa around here. I stumbled upon some ready made blue taco shells at the store for daughter's b'day and got them because that's her favorite color. LOL.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:04 PM (Dhht7)

100 Duncanthrax, the pecan butter is sheer bliss. A spoon is the only thing needed.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:05 PM (7CZws)

101 Eromero...

I'm sure what you make is good. Pork is good. Stand sir.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 05:05 PM (5aCkc)

102 Have only thrown fried egg on beef. Steak or burgers. Never thought of using chicken or pork for that matter.
Posted by: olddog in mo

++++Me, too. Not sure how I feel about this.
Posted by: washrivergal


Eggs and meat together is "big in Japan", with various styles of donburi being a common comfort food or restaurant 'fast food'. Donburi just refers to food served over a bowl of rice.

Gyuudon (beef bowl), katsudon (fried pork cutlet bowl), and oyakodon (chicken bowl) are common choices.

And while "gyuu" is "beef" and "katsu" is "cutlet", "oyako" doesn't mean "chicken". Since it's chicken and egg, oyakodon is the "parent (oya) and child (ko) bowl". Funny, but a bit morbid.

Posted by: mikeski at October 20, 2019 05:06 PM (P1f+c)

103 Hi, Ben Had. It's hard to find blue corn masa around here. I stumbled upon some ready made blue taco shells at the store for daughter's b'day and got them because that's her favorite color. LOL.
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:04 PM


Get some blue potatoes, and make mashed potatoes with them for Thanksgiving. Always a kid favorite around here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 05:06 PM (DMUuz)

104 Ladyl! Our flight home was already boarded as we landed. Wheelchair woman was amazing and got us to our way far away gate. I tipped her very well. Husband is staying in ATL for a fundraiser.

I hope and pray you get a flight home soon!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 05:06 PM (SyYPU)

105 And, oh yeah, I'm stuck in an airport with a missed connection as per usual.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:04 PM (MaZ4y)

yikes.

that's why I drive anywhere that is not blocked by a large body of water.

Hang tough.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 05:06 PM (x8Wzq)

106 YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (SyYPU)

107 Duncanthrax, that there is quite funny.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (RfzVr)

108 8 Happy eating Horde. If I tell you how fabulous the food was a the Texas Mome, you'll aready be making plans to attend next year's!

Holy cow!!!


And, oh yeah, I'm stuck in an airport with a missed connection as per usual.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:04 PM (MaZ4y)
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Hah, wife has already agreed and we plan to attend next year.

I might even bring a gun or three.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (WEBkv)

109 I thought it was a joke. It's so hard to tell these days. But it's not.


Kellogg's is doing a Start Your Day With Maximum Gay "inclusive" cereal. Basically, they dump all their crap offerings into a single box and call it All Together.


I won't link to all the gay sites and Yahoo! raving about it. It appears although it was just supposed to be available 10/17 (does that mean something?) Kellogg's still has it on their website. A box can be yours for just $20. Where else can you see all the mascots living in harmony and not trying to kill each other like they normally do?


So, if you're sick of that hetro cis-norm cereal you've been forced to eat your entire life, they've got your fix.


https://www.kelloggstore.com/all-together-cereal

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (Z1ykJ)

110 Art - *used* to make mole poblano, intend to return to doing so. Back then life was very different, didn't cook much at all, but I'd spend an entire rainy weekend day making it. Anyway, have begun reviewing recipes, remember my own, and will be getting ingredients lined up.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 05:09 PM (QDnY+)

111 Can I just say--Ben Had is my new hero. There are not enough good words to describe this incredible lady. I've never experienced hospitality like hers in my life.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:10 PM (MaZ4y)

112 Ladyl, I'm so sorry that this has happened again.

My life is enriched by meeting you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:10 PM (7CZws)

113 YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (SyYPU)

YES

this

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:10 PM (KhHxZ)

114 YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!
YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!
YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!
YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!
YUGE HUGS to Ben Had!


Because it can't be said enough.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 05:11 PM (qc+VF)

115 Jane D'Oh, meeting y'all was like old home week, your shrimp made me have flashbacks. I plumb forgot to ask if you had ever been to a Chitlin Strut at Salley, or Okra Strut at Irmo. My guess is maybe. We are a peculiar people. I have to admit that the horde is the handsomest example of humankind left on this planet, with me being perhaps the only exception. But hell there's always one.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 05:11 PM (UUkQp)

116 Hi Ben Had-this time it's not too bad. I got on the next flight which will get me home tonight. Whew!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:11 PM (MaZ4y)

117 Duncanthrax, the pecan butter is sheer bliss. A spoon is the only thing needed.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:05 PM


We're very happy you enjoy it!

BTW, Ace of Spades-Ben Had, the TX MoMe cat, appreciates all the love and pets you and everyone else sent down to her!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 05:12 PM (DMUuz)

118 I did the no knead artisan bread recipe. I have the Kitchen Aid grain grinder so turned the wheat into flour last night. I did not weigh things but will the next time I try. I have a Romertoph and decided to use it for this batch of bread. It turned out fine. I'm going to do rye next time and hopefully sourdough. I think there are times I'd rather do a knead recipe as this dough is too sticky to shape.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 20, 2019 05:12 PM (Lqy/e)

119 I might even bring a gun or three.

Piker. Between them, Jim SND and Panhandler would have been the envy of many Central and South American nations.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 05:13 PM (qc+VF)

120 Who uses spelunking in a cooking thread?

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 05:13 PM (HALdu)

121 Lovely food thread.

My plum gin is strained and rebottled and waiting until the winter holidays. I did give it a quick taste and was very pleased. Should be better in another 60 days.

OT: Saw a version of Tartuffe. It was done all in traditional rhyme, with traditional dress, but with a bit of technological anachronism. I expected cellphones to spoil Moliere, but this "modernization" worked. There was one stunning casting change, but that was off stage.
Sometimes a politically incorrect regional theater can kick the big guys in the ass.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 05:13 PM (U7k5w)

122 I'm having a hard time copying/pasting on my phone--so I'm not ignoring my Moron friends.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (MaZ4y)

123 So, if you're sick of that hetro cis-norm cereal you've been forced to eat your entire life, they've got your fix.


https://www.kelloggstore.com/all-together-cereal

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM

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I told myself not click, but I did. Don't know whether to be pissed at you for posting or myself for clicking. Probably both.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (Dhht7)

124 I love all y'all! Now we're finally taking off.

Son tried to comment earlier and Pixy wouldn't let him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (SyYPU)

125 Jane D'oh, There are only three words.

I Love You, and the rest of the D'oh family also.

Shrimp has never tasted so good. Your touch made all the difference.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (7CZws)

126 So sorry we missed the Texas MoMe. Sounds legendary. As others here have said, we wanted to come but something major prevented us. Hope to make it next year.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (S+f+m)

127 Basically, they dump all their crap offerings into a single box and call it All Together.

OH, but if you read the description carefully, these 6 oh-so-inclusive cereals are neatly segregated into their own little packages within the big box. For a ridiculously inflated price.

Heh.

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 05:16 PM (gP/Z3)

128 Between them, Jim SND and Panhandler would have been the envy of many Central and South American nations.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 05:13 PM (qc+VF)

Even more so if you include their guns

Then it's no contest

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:16 PM (KhHxZ)

129 Piker. Between them, Jim SND and Panhandler would have been the envy of many Central and South American nations.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 05:13 PM (qc+VF)
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Oh, wow, I guess I'll just leave the M1 Garands and the K-31 along with a couple thousand rounds of ammo at home then.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 05:16 PM (WEBkv)

130 I thought the TxMudMoMe last year was the best trip ever but the past weekend was out of this world. To meet all the as-yet unmet morons/ettes was way cool. I love you people.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 05:17 PM (UUkQp)

131 Well over 100, so OT:

Something I stumbled across years ago and just found again -- George Washington's prophecy for America, from his time at Valley Forge.

https://tinyurl.com/y38nhcdt

I thought of Irongrampa when I read this, but I'm almost never around when he is, so could someone point him to this? Please?

Posted by: Empire1 at October 20, 2019 05:17 PM (m0+G9)

132 https://www.kelloggstore.com/all-together-cereal

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM


Dear Lord clutch, I am just shaking my head. $20 for 6 single serving boxes of cereal? And they'll give up to $50,000 of the profits to GLADD?

One more reason to continue my boycott of all things Kellogg. (At least they included Frosty Flakes and Fruit Loops in the mix. Most appropriate.)

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 05:18 PM (RfzVr)

133 next year i shall close down shop and go four hours north east.

Wasn't possible this october.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 05:20 PM (5aCkc)

134 Whiskey isn't supposed to age once in the bottle, but that isn't my experience
Posted by: Skip


While the comment was a joke, I suppose there are compounds in whiskey that could start to oxidize once you've opened the bottle. It probably wouldn't make it taste better, though.

Posted by: mikeski at October 20, 2019 05:20 PM (P1f+c)

135 Bob the Bilderberg, hugs right back to both you and your lovely wife.

Mark it on your calendar for next year.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:20 PM (7CZws)

136 LoneRanger, I'll be looking for you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:22 PM (7CZws)

137 Basically, they dump all their crap offerings into a single box and call it All Together.

OH, but if you read the description carefully, these 6 oh-so-inclusive cereals are neatly segregated into their own little packages within the big box. For a ridiculously inflated price.

Heh.

Posted by: JQ


Of course. Everyone knows that the people who are so into this "inclusiveness" crap are idiots who will waste all kinds of money just to signal their "virtue".

We'd be derelict in our fiduciary duty to our shareholders if we didn't bilk these fools for all they're worth.

Posted by: The Kellogg's Board of Directors at October 20, 2019 05:24 PM (P1f+c)

138 Eromero, I think the young couples that came have become full fledged Morons.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (7CZws)

139 I brought some toasted pecans to the MoMe yesterday (the Mother Pecan tree was from central Texas, after all) and in any wanted to make some yourselves, it is really quite easy and makes a great party snack.

Ingredients:
1 stick butter
1/3 cup Worcestershire sauce
2 cups shelled pecan halves
plenty of ground sea salt

melt the stick of butter in a bowl, add the Worcestershire sauce, add 2 cups pecan halves and stir until all are liberally coated with the mixture Place the pecans on a tray, salt liberally (to taste) and then roast them at 300 degrees for 20 minutes. (test for crispiness at that point, depending on your oven you may need a bit more time)

and that's it! Very quick, easy, and enjoyable party or snack dish to make.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (V2Yro)

140 Looked like you guys had great wx for the TxMoMe. How was the goat? Did the East Coast morons like it?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (Dhht7)

141
TX chili is best served salted with the tears of Yankees fans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (7rVsF)

142 This needs to be said- hogmartin and AltonJackson are the real life example of chivalry.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:26 PM (7CZws)

143 I made bean and beef chili for a potluck years ago. Used northern white beans and dark, dried chili peppers. Served it with Cheese Nips white cheddar crackers and ordinary black raisins on the side. Looked super cool.

Presented it in a very nice cream colored / sea foam green striped antique crock and used a small 1930's dry-goods scoop for serving. I wrapped rusty barbed wire around the throat of the crock and attached a clothspin at the free end of the wire and pinned a creepy closeup Polaroid photo (Dutch 45) of Ronald McDonald sitting on a bench I took at the local Walmart.

I used used a paint pen on the blank section and wrote the words:
"MAd cOW cHili" on it.

ProTip: No one touched it. It was all art. Never-ever name a dish containing beef "mad cow xyz" during a national media-driven mad cow scare

Renamed it White and Black Chili.

Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2019 05:26 PM (K3B2k)

144 TX chili is best served salted with the tears of Yankees fans.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (7rVsF)



I would guess that is exceedingly good, while exceedingly uncommon.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 05:27 PM (HALdu)

145 I made bean and beef chili for a potluck years ago. Used northern white beans and dark, dried chili peppers. Served it with Cheese Nips white cheddar crackers and ordinary black raisins on the side. Looked super cool.

Presented it in a very nice cream colored / sea foam green striped antique crock and used a small 1930's dry-goods scoop for serving. I wrapped rusty barbed wire around the throat of the crock and attached a clothspin at the free end of the wire and pinned a creepy closeup Polaroid photo (Dutch 45) of Ronald McDonald sitting on a bench I took at the local Walmart.

I used used a paint pen on the blank section and wrote the words:
"MAd cOW cHili" on it.

ProTip: No one touched it. It was all art. Never-ever name a dish containing beef "mad cow xyz" during a national media-driven mad cow scare

Renamed it White and Black Chili.
Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2019 05:26 PM (K3B2k)




That is funny.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 05:28 PM (HALdu)

146
Hats off, letters of commendation and Mentions in Dispatches to Ben Had for hosting the TXMoMe. What an incredibly big heart it takes to open your home to a crowd of, uh, diverse personalities.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:29 PM (7rVsF)

147 How was the goat?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (Dhht7)

Ben Had's friend did what he could, but the goat did not make it

Last I heard, its condition was listed as critically delicious

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:29 PM (KhHxZ)

148 Ben Had

While i have never met a moron, i would rather meet and talk and laugh and drink face to face..

That is why all MoMe's work so well.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 05:29 PM (5aCkc)

149 This needs to be said- hogmartin and AltonJackson are the real life example of chivalry.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:26 PM

Care to share any specifics?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:29 PM (Dhht7)

150 olddog, I'm going to let others give their opinion but there was nothing left, not even the smell and the bones were chewed also!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:30 PM (7CZws)

151 Re: simple and tasty...
Two poached eggs on a pile of corned-beef hash. Plus pepper to taste.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 20, 2019 05:32 PM (7s3Gx)

152 Turkey chili isn't chili,

For when you forget how to make larb gai.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2019 05:32 PM (FhXTo)

153 I told myself not click, but I did. Don't know whether to be pissed at you for posting or myself for clicking. Probably both.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 05:14 PM (Dhht7)


LOL, I could have posted one of the websites posting what a step forward this is. Nothing says inclusion like a cereal specifically for gay people.

I always knew Snap Crackle and Pop were homo. But didn't they already have the LGBTQ thing covered with Fruit Loops?

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (Z1ykJ)

154 TX chili is best served salted with the tears of Yankees fans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:25 PM (7rVsF)

In 10 years the Astros will be a blip on the baseball graph.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (wYseH)

155 Someday, maybe, I should go to a MoMe and impress everyone with my wallfloweriness.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (n1yOz)

156
Two poached eggs on a pile of corned-beef hash. Plus pepper to taste.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy


God has this for breakfast.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (7rVsF)

157 You can buy prepared mole sauce pretty easily.

They're pretty average though.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (FhXTo)

158 olddog, not possible but they are both the kindest, most caring guys that can both sing and dance!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (7CZws)

159 Someday, maybe, I should go to a MoMe and impress everyone with my wallfloweriness.
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (n1yOz)

You really should

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (KhHxZ)

160 I have and had whiskey that was 20 years old, smooth as glass it was.
Have a bottle of Crown Royal bottled 1975, guess this holiday season I should break it open.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (ZCEU2)

161 >>Turkey chili isn't chili,


Not without Carrots it isn't.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 05:35 PM (bEuc8)

162 Northernlurker, they really are fun!

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:35 PM (m+0jM)

163 Re the young couples, so do I, Ben Had. I pointed them to a competent range to get licensed as they are the future.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 05:36 PM (UUkQp)

164 >> This needs to be said- hogmartin and AltonJackson are the real life example of chivalry.


They say 'please' and 'thank' you and they always wipe their dick on the drapes?

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 05:36 PM (bEuc8)

165 Dear Lord clutch, I am just shaking my head. $20 for
6 single serving boxes of cereal? And they'll give up to $50,000 of the
profits to GLADD?

One more reason to continue my boycott of all
things Kellogg. (At least they included Frosty Flakes and Fruit Loops in
the mix. Most appropriate.)


Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 05:18 PM (RfzVr)

I'm waiting for somebody to complain they can't figure out the nutritional value (I mean, how do you?) and sue them. They probably should have said "not for human consumption" just to cover that.


I have to appreciate this though, I've got a huge list of companies I won't buy from, but honestly, I start to forget why I'm mad at them after a few years. So a reminder every now and then is nice to have.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:36 PM (Z1ykJ)

166 I will say that I should have had more to drink before the dancing started! Needed a little more lubrication for the knees.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:36 PM (7CZws)

167 Who were the youngins?

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 05:37 PM (m+0jM)

168 can both sing and dance!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (7CZws)

Oh no

Not even close

Ben Had, now. Ben Had can sing and dance.

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:38 PM (KhHxZ)

169 I knew it was old, not that old though should have known.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:39 PM (ZCEU2)

170 Its turkey chili night here at chez Follywood!

Practically no carbs, until you throw in stuff, tastes fantastic and gets better the second day. What a great meal!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 05:40 PM (NVYyb)

171 Actually get a beer into me and I turn oddly friendly. If in vino es veritas I suppose I'm friendly.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:40 PM (n1yOz)

172 hogmartin, a moments foolishness and I am sorely paying for it.

Thank You so much for everything.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:40 PM (7CZws)

173 Ben Had, now. Ben Had can sing and dance.

Dang. I knew we left too early. Maybe next time I won't be too cheap to spring for the extra night's stay.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 05:42 PM (qc+VF)

174 Actually get a beer into me and I turn oddly friendly. If in vino es veritas I suppose I'm friendly.
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:40 PM


Aren't you 1023/1024ths Canadian? 'Friendly' is in the genes up there, eh?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 05:43 PM (DMUuz)

175 My wife makes turkey chili every once in a while, it can't beat made with beef.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:44 PM (ZCEU2)

176 I think I had to leave before the dancing, which was just as well, since 5 miles down 709 my truck and I did our own quick Pass de Doe on the road. There's some damned big deer out their running around Navarro County! Fortunately the duet ended without injury to either party, but I was the closest I've come in quite a few years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 05:45 PM (V2Yro)

177 I have and had whiskey that was 20 years old, smooth as glass it was.

Have a bottle of Crown Royal bottled 1975, guess this holiday season I should break it open.



No doubt that CR is probably much better than anything they're producing these days.



I have a bottle of Wild Turkey I purchased back in the mid 90's, what we used to call lead top. I found it in a liquor store in SF, and it was probably about 10 years old then. Back in the olden days before they were bought by the French, WT used to be 8 years old. It was much better than the small batch junk they make now, and I'd put it against most of the other micro distillers. WT has gotten increasingly worse over the years.



I was going to crack the bottle new years 2000, but didn't. When I moved out on my #$%^ ex, I grabbed my clothes, my camera gear, and this bottle. Thought I might open it on my 60th, but didn't do that either. So now, it'd better be a pretty special occasion!

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 20, 2019 05:46 PM (Z1ykJ)

178 Tom Servo, Whew. Glad of the outcome.

So glad to have met you and the roasted pecans were fantastic.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:47 PM (7CZws)

179 I learned at 8 this morning that I was scheduled to preach this morning. Oops.
The pastor was ready to preach but oops.
So I'm drinking beer and wondering where I went wrong.
Actually I think I could have had a message ready. I'm pretty good at spontaneous.
But oops.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:47 PM (n1yOz)

180 Wish I could make it to a Texas MoMe. Would be nice to be around a group of people that did not inhibit my conservative speech. Sigh.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 05:47 PM (u5LFV)

181 https://youtu.be/L168fisFvyM
United Spot - Russian Asset

A Hillary vs Tulsi fight

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 05:48 PM (ZCEU2)

182 >>> So, if you're sick of that hetro cis-norm cereal you've been forced to eat your entire life, they've got your fix.

When sales tank, Breitbart will do above-the-fold articles for a week.

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 05:48 PM (dCRRg)

183 I just had a beer described as having a bourbon finish. It was pretty good. It probably had the longest finish of any beer I've had lately.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:49 PM (n1yOz)

184

Lots of foods taste better the 2nd day. We regularly do spaghetti with my edited sauce (use whatever you wish) and park it in the fridge overnight then reheat ON THE STOVE.


Never nuke it. I guess I should mention the spaghetti is sauced to your desire, even the extra gets the overnight thing.
The garlic knots are made fresh, of course.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2019 05:49 PM (KATBx)

185 Fortunately the duet ended without injury to either party, but I was the closest I've come in quite a few years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 05:45 PM (V2Yro)

Oh wow, that'll wake you up. Glad it ended without incident. It gets dark there at night!

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:49 PM (KhHxZ)

186 Someday, maybe, I should go to a MoMe and impress everyone with my wallfloweriness.

Yes, start off with a simple Michigan or Ohio MoMe, then work yourself up to the TxMoMe.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 05:50 PM (lD3vL)

187 We went through 12lbs of deep fried bacon in a flash.

We also had to appoint a new Bacon Wench.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:51 PM (7CZws)

188 Someday, maybe, I should go to a MoMe and impress everyone with my wallfloweriness.

Yes, start off with a simple Michigan or Ohio MoMe, then work yourself up to the TxMoMe.


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 05:50 PM (lD3vL)
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Every MoMe I've been to has afforded an opportunity to lurk from the sidelines if that is what you prefer.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 05:52 PM (MVjcR)

189 >>> It gets dark there at night!

What a crazy place!

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 05:52 PM (dCRRg)

190 ...pray tell.....who is the bacon wench?

I may fall in love...

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 05:53 PM (5aCkc)

191 We went through 12lbs of deep fried bacon in a flash.

We also had to appoint a new Bacon Wench.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:51 PM (7CZws)
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WeaselWoman wants her title back!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 05:53 PM (MVjcR)

192 BBofF'ingJoy, There are a lot of happy coffee drinkers out there today.

Much appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:54 PM (7CZws)

193
Delilah, Sonny and Finn got bathed this afternoon and our matriarch Carmen was blow cleaned. Nap time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 05:54 PM (7rVsF)

194 Continuing with my cold-smokes fish obsession, have settled on trout as go-to. Been working on brine/rub ratios, now at about 1/8 cup each of pink salt and brown sugar, into bag with fish, refrigerate overnight, then cold smoke for 6-8 hours. Trying to get the salt to a point where it's there, but not overwhelming.

We'll see.

Oh! For last hour or so am experimenting with two different block cheeses: mozz and mild cheddar. Because why not?

SD news: MIL's SO passed this afternoon. We told her, but not sure if it "stuck." All around suckiness.

Posted by: ibguy at October 20, 2019 05:54 PM (EHVbt)

195 Now I'm drinking a beer called Hoof Hearted, suitable for a TxMoMe.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 05:55 PM (n1yOz)

196 194 moi

SD = sad.

Posted by: ibguy at October 20, 2019 05:55 PM (EHVbt)

197 On final into Detroit Rock City
ttyl and safe travels

Posted by: hogmartin can see his house from here at October 20, 2019 05:57 PM (KhHxZ)

198 Weasel, I said that wrong. I meant we had to send in a Sub. The title will always be WeaselWoman's.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:57 PM (7CZws)

199 SD news: MIL's SO passed this afternoon. We told her, but not sure if it "stuck." All around suckiness.
Posted by: ibguy at October 20, 2019 05:54 PM (EHVbt)

Condolences, ibguy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 06:00 PM (QugKX)

200 Howdy y'all!

I am soooo happy the Tx MoMe was a smashing success!

I hope to be there with Insom next year. It would be a hoot!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:01 PM (PkVlr)

201 Weasel, I said that wrong. I meant we had to send in a Sub. The title will always be WeaselWoman's.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:57 PM (7CZws)
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HA! I will let her know.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:02 PM (MVjcR)

202 I'm sorry but I don't know what SO means. Doesn't matter though. Condolences IB guy

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 06:02 PM (e5MIm)

203 Sous vide cooks any kind of meat tender, moist, and flavorful. My favorite is pork teriyaki. It doesn't have to be browned in a skillet after cooking because it has soy sauce and brown sugar. I also sous vide homemade meat or seafood sausages. Best $60.00 small appliance I bought from amazon.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 06:04 PM (Bk5Q+)

204 Howdy y'all!

I am soooo happy the Tx MoMe was a smashing success!

I hope to be there with Insom next year. It would be a hoot!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:01 PM (PkVlr)
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Bonus *peck* for you! The salmon was delicious!! Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:05 PM (MVjcR)

205 Significant t Other, most likely

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 06:06 PM (Kyj0g)

206 ibguy, sorry to hear that. Prayers that this will not set back your MiL's recovery and prayers for the family of her SO.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 20, 2019 06:07 PM (RfzVr)

207 gotta go play with power tools and such, to earn my daily beer.

back for the gub thread, if i 'member!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 06:07 PM (Kyj0g)

208

205 Significant t Other, most likely
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 06:06 PM (Kyj0g)

That makes sense.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 20, 2019 06:08 PM (n1yOz)

209 Ok, who didn't make the Mo-me?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:09 PM (ZCEU2)

210 Mr Churchill Says is very excellent.

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 06:09 PM (PUmDY)

211 I'm still sick that I couldn't make it...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 06:10 PM (UUBmN)

212 Ok, who didn't make the Mo-me?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:09 PM (ZCEU2)

Most of us.

Looking like next year will be off da hook.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM (x8Wzq)

213 Wish I could make it to a Texas MoMe. Would be nice to be around a group of people that did not inhibit my conservative speech. Sigh.

Surprisingly, I would say that less than ten percent of the lively and vastly fascinating conversation had anything to do with politics.

I think what was probably the greatest part is that we all could just talk openly on any topic without any concern that someone would be offended.

Much of what we say and do in real-life has to be guarded so that it isn't taken wrong. This is true whether at church, work, neighborhood block party, bar or family reunion.

What was special is that we all brought in our own stories, backgrounds, specialties, avocations and life experiences to color the conversation, so that on any thing, you will have the view from a lawyer, engineer, neurosurgeon, rancher, first-responder, artist, and mother's perspective.

We are much better for it.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

214 I've made all-chili chili before, but it comes out intensely bitter.

The only cure was either brown sugar at the end, tomato paste up front, or a combo of fresh tomatoes fresh hatch chilis.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2019 06:12 PM (1Vobx)

215 Couldn't make it this year. Too much funeral travel. Next year is going to be better!!

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 06:12 PM (m+0jM)

216 lin-duh, you were so missed and not out of our thoughts. Glad kiddo is better.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:13 PM (7CZws)

217 I hope to be there with Insom next year. It would be a hoot!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:01 PM (PkVlr)

D'aw! I was hoping Insom would be there.

Y'all are so cute I could strangle you both.

In a loving way. Like the abominable snowman in the Looney tunes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 06:14 PM (x8Wzq)

218 I'm still sick that I couldn't make it...

There were a lot more coffee door-prizes because of your absence. I roasted about ten pounds and had several bags waiting for you.

Hopefully there are now others having a caffeine addiction satiated.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:14 PM (lD3vL)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 06:14 PM (x8Wzq)

220 Wallflowers are good for hiding behind.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 06:15 PM (RuIsu)

221 the secret to non bitter chili is camelized carrots and some mexican coke!

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 06:15 PM (5aCkc)

222 BB of F'ing Joy. I could just meet up with you to get my coffee... you are relatively close to me...just saying.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 06:16 PM (UUBmN)

223 I baked a Swedish apple cake yesterday - a recipe that I hadn't made in over 20 years, but used to make frequently. I cut it in half for a 9" cake pan, and it came very close to running over, but didn't. A moist cake. Measurements are weird due to conversion.
Prepare by bringing 10 T of butter to room temp (cut into 1/2" cubes). Butter the pan and use plain bread crumbs instead of flour to line the pan.
Beat 13 T sugar with 3 large eggs until pale. Add 1 cup flour mixed with 1 tsp baking powder, then 1/2 tsp vanilla. When thoroughly mixed, beat in softened butter. Spread evenly into the pan with a spatula (it's thick). Peel and slice 2 apples 1/4" thick and either press vertically into batter or lay nicely on top. Sprinkle with cinnamon and bake at 340F for as long as it takes - in my case, 60 minutes. Allow to cool before cutting.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 20, 2019 06:16 PM (NMAzL)

224 >>I've made all-chili chili before, but it comes out intensely bitter.


People add a lot of spices that don't require heat too early in recipes. Cooking them always leads to more bitterness than flavoring.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 06:16 PM (bEuc8)

225 If you wonder what pre-op Pelosi looked like, check out her now late brother.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 06:17 PM (RuIsu)

226 Lots of foods taste better the 2nd day. We regularly do spaghetti with my edited sauce (use whatever you wish) and park it in the fridge overnight then reheat ON THE STOVE.


Never nuke it. I guess I should mention the spaghetti is sauced to your desire, even the extra gets the overnight thing.
The garlic knots are made fresh, of course.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2019 05:49 PM

I defrosted some meat sauce and made lasagna with it. It was very good, and so easy if you have the sauce ready to go. I'll be sure to make extra meat sauce next time and freeze a few bags. (Agree on the no nuke thing.)

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 20, 2019 06:17 PM (COzlW)

227 Turkey chili isn't chili

You're missing out, CBD. Was just finishing making my turkey chili as I read your post. The main spices are coffee and sage, and the peppers I use are more for flavor than for heat (like anchos).

When I want a red-meat chili, I use bison. Can't remember the last time I had a beef chili.

Posted by: crisis du jour at October 20, 2019 06:18 PM (qVX10)

228 Nurse ratched turn a good salmon into an epicurean delight.

Posted by: Ben Had

She was aiming at a woodpecker and shot a salmon ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:19 PM (arJlL)

229 We are much better for it.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

What you said is what I love about this venue. Look at the weekend threads, like the pet thread, the chess thread, and the book thread. Hell, I learn more and gain more access to wisdom on the book thread than I do anywhere else.

And as you said, when I met with the CO morons, we spoke only passingly about politics. It was mostly just chatting among friends.

the average IQ of the Horde, I would guess, is pretty fricking high (excluding myself).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 06:19 PM (x8Wzq)

230 Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM

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Thanks for sharing that. Not sure the word I'm looking for.... lovely, endearing, special.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 06:22 PM (Dhht7)

231 There was a recipe last week that used apple juice concentrate. I put it on my list, now for the life of me I cant remember the recipe. Help?

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 06:22 PM (m+0jM)

232 In 10 years the Astros will be a blip on the baseball graph.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 05:33 PM (wYseH)
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Not just salted tears, but sour grapes, it seems.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:22 PM (M9b/h)

233 BB of F'ing Joy. I could just meet up with you to get my coffee... you are relatively close to me...just saying.

I only roast for close family, certain friends, and Morons. Lets coordinate through Ben Had, I would like to get your opinion on a couple roasts.

For example, there is a certain geisha variety that I'm trying to get just right.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:23 PM (lD3vL)

234 you will have the view from a lawyer, engineer, neurosurgeon, rancher, first-responder, artist, and mother's perspective.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

Don't forget "cage dancer". Just sayin'.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 06:23 PM (PJ1Iy)

235 Miley that sounds delicious, was goi ng to buy something baked today but didn't because I thought I had Kodiak chocolate mix but don't have that either

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:24 PM (ZCEU2)

236 Turkey anything isn't the same.

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 06:24 PM (PUmDY)

237 Hrothgar and I were on the same flight home today and were having a post-MoMe discussion and analysis. A MoMe really has to be experienced to be understood and appreciated.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:24 PM (MVjcR)

238 Pug, it was a pleasure to meet WDS and bebe.

The vintage dress show was a highlite.

Added a whole lot of class.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:25 PM (7CZws)

239 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:11 PM (lD3vL)

Unfortunately, where I live any subject can be a "politically incorrect" one if you don't say the right thing. GAG!

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 06:25 PM (u5LFV)

240 She was aiming at a woodpecker and shot a salmon ?

I was wondering where those little tiny drumsticks came from.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (qc+VF)

241 Vintage dress show? Oh, do tell.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (m+0jM)

242 Tom Servo, those were your pecans? They were delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (M9b/h)

243 I'm a mess today.

Dropped boy off for boot camp. Had a bbq send off for him last night. It was awesome to have 24 folks come to see him off and pray for him.

Crap. I love my boys so damn much.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (PkVlr)

244 I used the tomato overflow from Rutgers/San Marzanos for sauce this year. Peeled the tomatoes after dropping in boiling water for about 25 seconds, then strain the juice from the seeds and gelatinous liquid to extract as much yumminess as possible. 1 1/2 pounds, coarsely chopped, then maybe 10 pulses in the food processor. You can freeze as is in a bag laid flat, or continue to make a nice pasta sauce by slicing 2 garlic cloves thinly and sauteing with 1/4 tsp of pepper flakes in 1-2 T of EVOO. Add tomatoes and bring to a simmer. Add 4 fresh basil leaves and 1/2 cup of white wine. Simmer until thickened. Makes a little over 1 cup of very tasty sauce.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (NMAzL)

245 Oh yeah - and salt and pepper to taste.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 20, 2019 06:27 PM (NMAzL)

246 the secret to non bitter chili is camelized carrots and some mexican coke!
Posted by: LoneRanger


I hear you but I'm not going to stand with you in front of that freight train a'coming.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2019 06:27 PM (1Vobx)

247
The vintage dress show was a highlite.

Added a whole lot of class.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:25 PM (7CZws)
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Very classy!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:27 PM (MVjcR)

248 Don't forget "cage dancer". Just sayin'.

Definitely an eclectic crowd. Where else could you go and find a Moron that lodged for a couple nights in a horse trailer?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:28 PM (lD3vL)

249 God bless him, nurse ratched. That's wonderful.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:28 PM (M9b/h)

250 Thanks Skip! Give it a try, it's pretty easy.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 20, 2019 06:28 PM (NMAzL)

251 Thank you all for your well wishes. Sad, indeed.

Welp, I'm off to birthday dinner (29 again!) so will likely miss the gub thread

Posted by: ibguy at October 20, 2019 06:28 PM (EHVbt)

252 Added a whole lot of class.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:25 PM (7CZws)
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Very classy!
Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:27 PM (MVjcR)

Especially with the boots

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 06:29 PM (PJ1Iy)

253 . Where else could you go and find a Moron that lodged for a couple nights in a horse trailer?
But he saved $300.00!

Posted by: Panhandler at October 20, 2019 06:30 PM (9YJH4)

254 Camelized is funny. No water?

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 06:30 PM (PUmDY)

255 bluebell, Mr. bluebell is such a great guy but then you already know that, so thanks for sharing him.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:30 PM (7CZws)

256 Nurse ratched- He will be ok, his new short term mother will take care of him.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:31 PM (ZCEU2)

257 I made something along the lines CDB was talking about. Last night was thinking about a ham sandwich of some sort but I'm trying to go kind of low carb not extreme. So I put down a piece of krakus ham, then topped it with some mushrooms grilled Julia Child Style check that out makes em great, then top that with gruyere cheese and sharp cheddar in another piece of ham. Zap it in the microwave a bit and you've got a tasty meal. So I was in tune with the quick cheap and easy theme here today.
IB guy my sympathies and best wishes for your m i l and her significant other. Prayers up from here for you and your family.

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2019 06:31 PM (K0WxZ)

258 Thank you, Ben Had. He's pretty okay. He had a great time meeting everyone.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:31 PM (M9b/h)

259 I haven't had a hotdog or a sammich in DAYS!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:31 PM (MVjcR)

260 CC

Just duckfat...

Posted by: LR at October 20, 2019 06:32 PM (5aCkc)

261 OK.

I was talking about homemade tacos, and I remembered how freakin' awesome my tacos are, and couldn't stop thinking about it. So I strongly encouraged Ms. YD to go get my taco stuff. And beer. Because like Supreme Court Justices, I like beer.

*TACO INTENSIFIES*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:32 PM (GMaND)

262 Did weaseldog make the trip?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:32 PM (PkVlr)

263 Wesael, I told you there would be NO sammiches.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (7CZws)

264 Happy birthday, ibguy!

And sorry to hear about the misfortune.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (GMaND)

265 Did weaseldog make the trip?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:32 PM (PkVlr)
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Sadly, no. She was there in spirit though!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (MVjcR)

266 MS YD?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (PkVlr)

267 263 Wesael, I told you there would be NO sammiches.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (7CZws)
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You weren't kidding, either. What an amazing few days.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:34 PM (MVjcR)

268 MS YD?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:33 PM (PkVlr)

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Now, now... we're not hitched yet, so I dropped the "r."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:35 PM (GMaND)

269 Oh, rats!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:36 PM (PkVlr)

270 Now, now... we're not hitched yet, so I dropped the "r."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:35 PM (GMaND)
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Want us to plan your wedding? We're good at it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:36 PM (M9b/h)

271 Helloooooooo nurse!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 06:37 PM (NWiLs)

272 Unfortunately, where I live any subject can be a "politically incorrect" one if you don't say the right thing. GAG!

I reside near the People's Republic of Austin. You would either have to be in Seattle or San Fran to beat that.

I was working a quick rescue mission for a major financial services institution and an internal email went around showing photos of the new offices where the cubicles were very small. Soon after the Creatives in the department I was helping out Photoshopped images mocking the tiny sizes of the cubicles so I simply added a comment "If the cubicles were occupied with chickens rather than employees, PETA would be organizing a boycott". That quickly triggered several people who escalated it to where a SVP had to intervene and have people called in to account for the disruption.

Everywhere, a Normal must either walk on egg shells or have their head on a swivel and ready for violence or worse.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:37 PM (lD3vL)

273 bluebell, Mr. bluebell is such a great guy but then you already know that, so thanks for sharing him.

Definitely second that.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:39 PM (lD3vL)

274 Where else could you go and find a Moron that lodged for a couple nights in a horse trailer?
But he saved $300.00!
Posted by: Panhandler at October 20, 2019 06:30 PM (9YJH4)

Thought my ears were ringing.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at October 20, 2019 06:39 PM (4CsSF)

275 Hi Insom


I'm a mess, can you just curl up with me and kiss my tears away?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:39 PM (PkVlr)

276 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:37 PM (lD3vL)

SF East Bay. Does the name Berzerkeley ring a bell?

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 06:40 PM (u5LFV)

277 bluebell, wasn't Jane D'oh everything you expected?

What a charmer.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:40 PM (7CZws)

278 Amazing Bridgewater season.

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 06:40 PM (PUmDY)

279 Want us to plan your wedding? We're good at it.
Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:36 PM (M9b/h)

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Gotta get through the next four or five months before I start thinking about the next massive outlay, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:41 PM (GMaND)

280 SF East Bay. Does the name Berzerkeley ring a bell?

OK, you win - by a long shot.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:42 PM (lD3vL)

281 bluebell, wasn't Jane D'oh everything you expected?

What a charmer.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:40 PM (7CZws)
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I'll second that!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 06:42 PM (MVjcR)

282 Oh, rats!
Posted by: Nurse ratched

You're in Baltimore ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:44 PM (arJlL)

283 Brooklyn holds the charmer over me

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM (PUmDY)

284 What cowboy hasn't slept in a horse trailer?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM (ZCEU2)

285 Jane and her family were indeed lovely. It was a pleasure to meet everyone and see old friends from last year.

Thank you, Ben Had, for a lovely weekend. And thanks to J & B too.

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM (M9b/h)

286 I'm a mess, can you just curl up with me and kiss my tears away?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:39 PM (PkVlr)

Of course I can. C'mere...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM (NWiLs)

287
Normally I can't stand sappy stuff, but the whole Insom/Nurse thing always makes me smile.

I'm glad for you guys, especially Insom (no offense nurse, but he was super bummed-out before he met you).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM (GMaND)

288 You know what else is such a great thing about a MoMe?

Nobody is afraid to hug somebody. Full on Im, ' so glad to see you, hugs.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:47 PM (7CZws)

289 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:42 PM (lD3vL)

Wish I didn't "win", but with God's help my octogenarian carcass will be able to leave this are in a couple of years.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 06:47 PM (u5LFV)

290 Want us to plan your wedding? We're good at it.

I'm pretty sure they don't want to have their nuptials end in jail or the ER.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 06:47 PM (lD3vL)

291 Nurse Ratched: {{hugs}}

Posted by: shibumi at October 20, 2019 06:48 PM (2KYgn)

292 SF East Bay. Does the name Berzerkeley ring a bell?

Wow, kudos for surviving in that environment!

Berkeley used to be charmingly loopy, like Marianne Williamson, only trashier. Now, it's a nightmare. The stepping-over-the-passed-out-wino-to-get-into-the-restaurant gets old pretty quickly.

Posted by: crisis du jour at October 20, 2019 06:49 PM (qVX10)

293 Thanks, shibumi

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:49 PM (PkVlr)

294 Want us to plan your wedding? We're good at it.

I'm pretty sure they don't want to have their nuptials end in jail or the ER.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

Instead of a shotgun wedding, it would be a switchblade wedding.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:49 PM (arJlL)

295 {{{{{{Ben Had}}}}}}}}}

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Bebe and I are at Love waiting for our flights.

Great, fantastic time! Was wonderful to meet you all!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 20, 2019 06:50 PM (7mSw0)

296 I'm a mess, can you just curl up with me and kiss my tears away?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:39 PM (PkVlr)

Of course I can. C'mere...
Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 06:46 PM

*****


Be strong Nurse. When he comes home in his Blues you're gonna burst with pride!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 06:51 PM (axyOa)

297 Hey Diogenes!


It was awesome meeting you yesterday.

Thank you for your kindness.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:52 PM (PkVlr)

298 crisis du jour at October 20, 2019 06:49 PM (qVX10)

I'm not actually in Berzerkeley but close, and the prissy prog/libs are the same. The closest I get is upper Solano to Cactus Mexican restaurant.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 06:52 PM (u5LFV)

299 .....what cowboy never slept in the saddle.......?

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 06:52 PM (5aCkc)

300 Waiting at DTW to pick up our bags

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 06:53 PM (Nrf6R)

301 Right back at cha!!!

Had a great time at the range. Huge kudos to MAE too for making my Walther shoot gooder!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 06:53 PM (axyOa)

302 Infidel, It was more than worthy of an OM dress thread entry.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:54 PM (7CZws)

303 142 This needs to be said- hogmartin and AltonJackson are the real life example of chivalry.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 05:26 PM (7CZws

Absofuckinglutely. Thank you again gentlemen.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 06:55 PM (/bbyo)

304 Absofuckinglutely. Thank you again gentlemen.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 06:55 PM (/bbyo)

Aww, no problem. Sorry the stereo got stuck on "Angel of the Morning" the whole drive back.


Not very sorry though.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Nrf6R)

305 Glad to hear, Ben Had. This place is a God send for sanity, knowledge and fun!

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:00 PM (m+0jM)

306 Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 06:52 PM (u5LFV)

Were you able to keep your lights on last week?

Not one of my Bay Area friends have reported that they did

Posted by: crisis du jour at October 20, 2019 07:01 PM (qVX10)

307 Dropped boy off for boot camp. Had a bbq send off for him last night. It was awesome to have 24 folks come to see him off and pray for him.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM


In a few days, call and ask for the Lead Instructor. Inform him of your concern, and ask him to ask the Instructors to give him special care.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 07:01 PM (DMUuz)

308 bluebell, Mr. bluebell is such a great guy but then you already know that, so thanks for sharing him.


****

I have met Team Bluebell and can attest they are great people.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 07:01 PM (axyOa)

309 Great, fantastic time! Was wonderful to meet you all!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 20, 2019 06:50 PM (7mSw0)

Am about to toast you with my Beaver Liquors whiskey you and Mr. WDS worked to get.

Thanks again and have a great trip home!!

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at October 20, 2019 07:02 PM (4CsSF)

310 Haha

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 07:02 PM (PUmDY)

311 Yeah Nurse, what Duncanthrax said. And don't forget to add that he likes to be sung to sleep. Senior NCO's just love to do that. Oh yeah.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:03 PM (UUkQp)

312 In a few days, call and ask for the Lead Instructor. Inform him of your concern, and ask him to ask the Instructors to give him special care.

Nurse ratched do nothing like that ever

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:04 PM (ZCEU2)

313 I heard that there were more non-Texas morons than natives this year...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 07:05 PM (UUBmN)

314 Yeah Nurse, what Duncanthrax said. And don't forget to add that he likes to be sung to sleep. Senior NCO's just love to do that. Oh yeah.
Posted by: Eromero

LOL !

OMG, that is just cruel.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:05 PM (arJlL)

315 Nurse, I doubt I can hug you and make you feel better.

I could throw rocks at your car until you are ready to skin me, though.


Would that be helpful?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 07:05 PM (xG/b0)

316 lin-duh, just for a little while.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:06 PM (7CZws)

317 So that stuff was made by beavers, Emperor Country Boy? That's why it was so stout. I guess all we have available here is the kind made by raccoons.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 07:06 PM (UUkQp)

318 Only a fool would say that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 07:07 PM (PUmDY)

319 You know what else is such a great thing about a MoMe?

Nobody is afraid to hug somebody. Full on Im, ' so glad to see you, hugs.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 06:47 PM (7CZws)

Right? My first CO meetup I got to meet Infidel, and when I was leaving she gave me a big ol' hug.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 07:07 PM (x8Wzq)

320 394 Not very sorry though.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2019 06:59 PM (

Not sorry at all, lol.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:07 PM (/bbyo)

321 Nood Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 07:08 PM (arJlL)

322 crisis du jour at October 20, 2019 07:01 PM (qVX10)

Yes. But the refinery explosions and fire last Tuesday really screwed everything up here. Took me 1 hour and fifteen minutes to drive home two miles from Fiat Music Co.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 20, 2019 07:08 PM (u5LFV)

323 My people call it chilli...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at October 20, 2019 07:09 PM (7WaWV)

324 Thank you again for the hospitality BenHad, it was lovely to meet you in person, along with all the 'ron's & 'ettes. Plus machine gun fun time!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 20, 2019 07:09 PM (/bbyo)

325 OK, clean your plates and move to the gun thread

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 07:10 PM (7CZws)

326 Aw, Pug.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 07:12 PM (m+0jM)

327 229 pug
I found that true at the Las Vegas Momi. Just a bunch of good folks enjoying each other and getting to know each other better, although this place lets us I know each other pretty well. But very little talk of politics that doesn't consume Our Lives. The other Mommy I was too was to a small Wisconsin one miss him was there Donna and Hugo Chavez and we had a blast. Excellent folks The Horde is outstanding, and as you said probably a bit above the average intelligence. As evidenced by they don't vote for Democrats.

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2019 07:18 PM (K0WxZ)

328 I just made Steak-Umms tonight. What can I say? I was tired.

Posted by: Slapweasel, H.M.F.I.C., Slapweasel Industries at October 20, 2019 07:27 PM (Ckg4U)

329 Check out the Youtube channel Sous Vide Everything. Those guys are great. They also have lots of great tools they use for searing sous vide stuff. Hint: BLOWTORCH

Posted by: chris at October 20, 2019 07:50 PM (aYfVg)

330 Hey slap,
How's things? Give me a holler sometime when you want to talk.

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2019 08:15 PM (K0WxZ)

It's Time For Automated Ball And Strike Calls In MLB

The Yankees got beaten fair and square, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. And the crap calls at the plate hurt both teams last night, so this isn't a partisan gripe about the inherent unfairness of MLB toward The Yankees (that's for another rant).

But the strike zone last night was pathetic, and it affected the play of both teams. When a batter has to wonder where the strike zone is, in addition to having just a split-second to decide whether to swing, it plays havoc with the essence of the game.

Whose fault is that? Well, MLB does not have sufficient controls in place to moderate the often overbearing and ridiculously sensitive behavior of its umpires, so they have the well-founded impression that they can do no wrong. As Lord Acton famously said:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
And is there a more corrupt and capricious and arrogant group than MLB umpires? Is there another sport into which the officials inject themselves to such an extent?

And I'm not talking about the outliers on the asshole scale like Joe West and Angel Hernandez. Even the relatively good umpires have vast egos and are unwilling to tolerate any challenge to their authority, even when it is completely obvious that they have screwed up. Their prickly insistence on total obeisance from the players and managers is an affront to the game.

The frustrating thing is that the number of bad calls in the field is minuscule compared to the pathetic and subjective job the umpires do at the plate. Perhaps that is a function of the increase in velocity of the average pitch, or maybe (and I am guessing here) evolutionary changes in pitches so that there is simply too much movement for the home plate umpires to judge them with any degree of accuracy.

It's simple...let the software call balls and strikes, and the home plate umpire can concentrate on other things like whether the batter has swung, or been hit by a pitch, or fouled off a pitch, etc. Or, and this is my preferred solution, publicize the accuracy statistics that MLB keeps on their umps, and have the software call balls and strikes for the bottom half of the umpires for the month following their low ratings. And if they remain in the cellar for the month after, suspend them.

Below the fold are some videos that should bolster the point that something has to be done. Let's start with forcing Joe West to lose about 100 pounds!

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1 Meh. They can all go set themselves on fire.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 03:07 PM (ywNoU)

2 I do recall the moving strike zone bit Cliff Lee in the ass during the playoffs with the Cards in 2012.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:11 PM (JaLUs)

3 Where shall we begin when its about bad officials.

Posted by: Detroit Lions at October 20, 2019 03:12 PM (9YABs)

4 There's also the real possibility the umps are having vision issues as they age.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:14 PM (JaLUs)

5 To me the Yankees are in baseball what the Cowboys are in football.
Hate them both

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:14 PM (ZCEU2)

6 How did the Yankees do last night?

Posted by: Caliban at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (QE8X6)

7 The Umpire strikes back..........................WGAF.

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (5IHGB)

8 Let's start with firing Joe West into the Sun

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (BqBId)

9 100 comment rule.

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 03:16 PM (BqBId)

10 When I first saw the strike zone box on MLB Gameday, I wondered why they couldn't implement that IRL. I guess the Umpire's Union will not allow it.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:18 PM (JaLUs)

11 Right. What MLB needs more of is technology.

Maybe the umps need to take the same steroids guys like Lemahue are taking.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:18 PM (hku12)

12 Every umpire has his own strike zone on a given day. The first thing you do as a pitcher is figure what it is.

Some umpires call the pitch where it crosses the plate, as they're supposed to. Some call it by where the pitch starts out, i.e., they call it too soon. Others call it by where the catcher catches, i.e., they call it too late.

As a pitcher you can work with any of those. The guys who are really tough require the pitch to be a strike out of your hand AND all the way to the catcher's mitt, i.e., grooved. On those days you spend a lot of time backing up third base.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

13 Sorry for the short fuze O/T

Former Baltimore Mayor, Tommy Delasandro has died.

Who dat?


Nancy Pelosi's father.



We now return you to your regularly scheduled basabowl thread.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (cqNba)

14 5 Skip, IIANM a lot of Philly fans want Gerardi. I know I do.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (JaLUs)

15 When I first saw the strike zone box on MLB Gameday, I wondered why they couldn't implement that IRL. I guess the Umpire's Union will not allow it.

Do we really want AI and machine vision to replace umpires and referees? The 'bots will catch everything they are programmed and trained to pick-up but would the game itself suffer from the wooden rigidness rather than the human nature inherent in our inability?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (lD3vL)

16 How did the Yankees do last night?

Ummmmm......I dunno/

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:21 PM (arJlL)

17 Skip, IIANM a lot of Philly fans want Gerardi. I know I do.
Posted by: kallisto

Girardi's a good manager.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:23 PM (arJlL)

18 Every umpire has his own strike zone on a given day. The first thing you do as a pitcher is figure what it is.

Some umpires call the pitch where it crosses the plate, as they're supposed to. Some call it by where the pitch starts out, i.e., they call it too soon. Others call it by where the catcher catches, i.e., they call it too late.

As a pitcher you can work with any of those. The guys who are really tough require the pitch to be a strike out of your hand AND all the way to the catcher's mitt, i.e., grooved. On those days you spend a lot of time backing up third base.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 03:19 PM (YqDXo)


You know what else is a skill? Being a hitter who can "work" an umpire. Some guys get walked more, not just because they have a better eye than others, but because they know HOW to question the ump's call.

Is that fair?

Hell no, but it sure as hell beats the sterile game that would result if calls were made by lasers and robots.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:23 PM (hku12)

19

Why not just have Robits play the game, then?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 20, 2019 03:23 PM (oelf+)

20 How did the Yankees do last night?

What exactly is the internet for ?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:24 PM (ZCEU2)

21
The older I get, the more I wonder how adults can root for jerseys.

Professional group sports are GARBAGE.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (oelf+)

22 Do we really want AI and machine vision to replace umpires and referees? The 'bots will catch everything they are programmed and trained to pick-up but would the game itself suffer from the wooden rigidness rather than the human nature inherent in our inability?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (lD3vL)


Might as well take the humans out altogether. Just have robots play, ump, and call the games on tv. Imagine no more Joe Buck in the booth.

What a wonderful world that would be.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (hku12)

23 Speaking of World Series, part of the world's current karmic imbalance can be attributed to a certain obligation, voluntarily undertaken last year, to wear a Red Sox T-Shirt while in public, for a week, should the Red Sox, and not the Yankees, win the World Series.

History records that the Red Sox won the WS. What history does not record is said obligation holder honoring that sacred obligation.

Given that a butterfly beating its wings in the Amazon can induce stock market swings and/or moral turpitude in Olangapo, who can say what dire circumstances today are a result of this?

Posted by: Comrade Duncanthraxbot at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (DMUuz)

24 We can't spell words without having the computer look over our shoulder, and we usually screw up the programming of that. Takes two back-up committees to do the calls for a football game. I don't think anyone is in charge of basketball. And NASCAR has special overnight meetings to try to copy the rest of them.

We've made ourselves an Idiocracy, and have no damn business making fun of foreigners or the next generation. If we can't do balls and strikes without starting a damn riot every time out, let's just hang it up and concentrate on our extra-absorbent undies. Jesus, are we ever a bunch of screw-ups.



Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (8ZmvG)

25 Good refs/umps are critical to being able to enjoy pro-sports. Mostly you shouldn't even notice they are there. When NFL refs were at the top of their game about a decade ago, they would call things that a replay would confirm. When replay shows refs or umps wrong (or worse when you can see they are wrong as the viewer) on a regular basis, it gets frustrating really fast.

Posted by: MKopef at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (DfSI5)

26 OOPS.

Nancy Pelosi's Brother, not father.

Both were Mayors here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:26 PM (cqNba)

27 This has always bothered me since my dear departed Uncle - MLB pitcher (Athletics, Yankees, Sox (Red and White!) pointed it out years ago. A MLB umpire is the only sports official that is required to stand in such a position that he cannot fully see the placement of the pitch and then must call a ball or strike.

The umps in the field can see the strike zone more clearly but they will very rarely override the plate ump.

Something needs to be done.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 03:26 PM (Y4EXg)

28 What exactly is the internet for ?

Girly Pictures ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:26 PM (arJlL)

29 How did the Yankees do last night?
Posted by: Caliban at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (QE8X6)


What I'm wondering is whether Aroldis Chapman's girlfriend/wife has a shiner this morning.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:26 PM (hku12)

30 15 oh there's enough quirkiness about baseball, I don't think clinical precision in calling pitches will hurt the overall zeitgeist of the game.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:27 PM (JaLUs)

31 >>> What exactly is the internet for ?

The internet is for porn.

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 03:27 PM (dCRRg)

32 What exactly is the internet for ?

Girly Pictures movies?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:27 PM (cqNba)

33 What exactly is the internet for ?

The internet is for porn.
Posted by: fluffy

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This is known.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 03:28 PM (Y4EXg)

34 When the idiot spit on the ump years back, and the umps didn't immediately sit out until the cretin was banned for life, it told anyone with a brain all they needed to know about the umps, the players, and the game [and a bit about the culture].


But sportsball.


Neighbor was a major leaguer when I was a teenager, cut his lawn/did yard work for him. He gave me one of his gloves, and a ball signed by the whole team. Very nice guy, and family. I'll just keep that as my memory of baseball.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:28 PM (QDnY+)

35 The 2d box on the video isn't a good way to tell where the 3d ball is.

Posted by: Wodun at October 20, 2019 03:28 PM (OkKDg)

36 30 15 oh there's enough quirkiness about baseball, I don't think clinical precision in calling pitches will hurt the overall zeitgeist of the game.
Posted by: kallisto

(trudges back to 15.In the rain)

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:28 PM (arJlL)

37 Joe West has been not just bad but an arrogant douche who thinks he is the most important part of the game for years yet he still has a job.

It's a mystery.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)

38 Hitter can't hit after 40, why do we expect Umps to be any better.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2019 03:29 PM (B7KlG)

39 As infuriating as bad calls are, I hope they never go to an automated strike call.
That's just wrong.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 03:29 PM (NFEMn)

40 It is Nancy's bro that just died VIA. Both dad and bro were big in Maryland politics but Tom Sr would have been ancient, he was born in 1903 according to wiki.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 20, 2019 03:29 PM (n4y+3)

41 Confucius say Umpire Wrong, Man with 4 balls cannot walk

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 03:30 PM (BqBId)

42 We can't spell words without having the computer look over our shoulder, and we usually screw up the programming of that. Takes two back-up committees to do the calls for a football game. I don't think anyone is in charge of basketball. And NASCAR has special overnight meetings to try to copy the rest of them.

We've made ourselves an Idiocracy, and have no damn business making fun of foreigners or the next generation. If we can't do balls and strikes without starting a damn riot every time out, let's just hang it up and concentrate on our extra-absorbent undies. Jesus, are we ever a bunch of screw-ups.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (8ZmvG)


You know, it's sometimes very hard to understand what you are trying to say.

So here, lemme lay this in there...

You know what used to be quite common more than a 100 years ago in professional baseball? Umpires being assaulted and run out of town for making bad calls.

It's true!

This modern game is nothing compared to how bad it used to be.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:30 PM (hku12)

43 AL umpires have been notoriously bad for a long time.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 03:30 PM (iB1oa)

44 Joe West has been not just bad but an arrogant douche who thinks he is the most important part of the game for years yet he still has a job.

It's a mystery.
Posted by: JackStraw

A mystery. Wrapped in a riddle.

Inside an enema.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:30 PM (arJlL)

45 Imagine no more Joe Buck in the booth.

Over a decade ago, there was an AI application that was able to read the various sports data streams and generate Turing complete sports articles - that is, the output was indistinguishable from professionally written sports articles.

A decade later, surely with Google Assistant technology and good automated speech, Joe Buck, et al could be replaced.

I could even see individual mobile devices that have apps that have been trained to know each user's preferences able to dynamically tailor the play-by-play for each customer's satisfaction.

Heck, might even include product placement and segues into the stream so that games can be run without advertisement breaks.

Speed the heck out of the game and maintain continuity and personalized advertisements (for those who don't have paid subscriptions).

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:31 PM (lD3vL)

46 there is no AL & NL Umps anymore

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 03:31 PM (BqBId)

47 >>AL umpires have been notoriously bad for a long time.

True, but this is about baseball refs.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 03:31 PM (ZLI7S)

48 Gwynn had his own strike zone, right? But he earned that by being one of the best, and hardest-working, hitters in history. Probably not applicable to the masses of hitters.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:31 PM (QDnY+)

49 Why not just tie an ump's pay to the quality of his calls, with demonstrably wrong ones resulting in subtraction of some amount from his check?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2019 03:32 PM (H5knJ)

50 Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

And thank God!

Posted by: Hillary! at October 20, 2019 03:33 PM (IPZPl)

51 If you automate it, they will come.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 20, 2019 03:33 PM (JUOKG)

52 I think I lost interest in baseball about the same time they started with the radar gun to measure the exact mph of the pitch. I think a lot is lost when electronic technology becomes the supreme analysis of a game of sport. If you want to much preciseness just play video games. Exact preciseness is for internal surgery and NASA rockets.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 20, 2019 03:34 PM (sIyWR)

53 I like baseball, but am not a super huge fan like many here... mostly just watch the Rockies (when it's available, sigh).

But, I kind of like the lack of automation. I don't know... maybe I'm crazy, but it feels more real than having robots do the work.

Before I quit watching NFL, I liked instant replay, though, because it allowed refs to revise opinions on questionable plays.

Maybe MLB could try out IR/manager challenges for a season instead of Robot Overlords?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:34 PM (5aX2M)

54 Replace Joe Buck with one of these guys....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUEqGMVv58g

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:35 PM (arJlL)

55 NAP TIME !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:36 PM (arJlL)

56 I knew early on that I would never go far in baseball. I was a decent fielder, especially first base, being a southpaw. But hitting was where I simply sucked. If my bat made contact with the ball, I was giddy, even though more often than not, it was a pop-up, a foul, or a dribbling grounder. If I got on base, it was mostly on walks.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 03:36 PM (x8Wzq)

57 I think I lost interest in baseball about the same time they started with the radar gun to measure the exact mph of the pitch. I think a lot is lost when electronic technology becomes the supreme analysis of a game of sport. If you want to much preciseness just play video games. Exact preciseness is for internal surgery and NASA rockets.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 20, 2019 03:34 PM (sIyWR)


Exactly. Sports are all about the human drama, of excellence... and failure.

I don't believe anything improves in sports, with more technology.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:37 PM (hku12)

58 44 Joe West has been not just bad but an arrogant douche who thinks he is the most important part of the game for years yet he still has a job.

It's a mystery.
Posted by: JackStraw

A mystery. Wrapped in a riddle.
J
Inside an enema.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:30 PM (arJlL)

That explains why he's so fat. He's the turducken of umpires.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 20, 2019 03:37 PM (eAMlh)

59 I really like the idea of publicizing the percentage of missed calls. However, it may help to remember that MLB expects umps to get 95% of ball and strike calls correct. That accuracy rate is pretty good in almost any line of work.

Posted by: mongo at October 20, 2019 03:38 PM (LROYh)

60 They are testing a robot umpire out in the minor leagues. There is still an umpire behind the plate but he simply relays the calls made by the robot. It has some issues though, such as balls that bounce in the dirt then come across the plate are called strikes.

https://archive.fo/4j4vJ

Posted by: SamVonSam at October 20, 2019 03:40 PM (95KET)

61 I'm a bigger fan of MiLB than the majors. It's more fun attending the minor league games, not to mention MUCH cheaper.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:40 PM (JaLUs)

62 Bob Menery for the win.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 03:40 PM (m+0jM)

63 >>I really like the idea of publicizing the percentage of missed calls. However, it may help to remember that MLB expects umps to get 95% of ball and strike calls correct. That accuracy rate is pretty good in almost any line of work.

It's also a pretty frigging easy job. They aren't splitting atoms out there.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 03:40 PM (ZLI7S)

64 Greetings:

I grew up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s, about a mile or so north of Yankee Stadium. When we played stickball in our local after-schoolyard, we would chalk up a strike zone on the wall and if the pitch had chalk on it, it was a strike.

P.S. Your spellcheck doesn't accept "stickball" as correctly spelled.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (evgyj)

65 Replace Joe Buck with one of these guys....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUEqGMVv58g
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 03:35 PM (arJlL)


No thanks, I'd rather have my teeth drilled, without anesthesia.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (hku12)

66 Yeah but if it's a machine making the calls how do you hurt the 'ump's'feelings by calling him blind?

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (UUkQp)

67 So is the strike zone more of a cube that the ball has to remain within while it is over the plate or is it simply a rectangle that it has to be within when it crosses over come point on the plate?

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (HALdu)

68 My love for baseball got stomped when the Expos moved to Washington.
But I am happy the Nationals are in the World Series-not dancing on the dugout roof happy but happy enough in a meh sort of way.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (eAMlh)

69 I mean it does hurt the ump's feelings being called blind, right?

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 03:42 PM (UUkQp)

70 I would have liked to see Earl Weaver peck a robot umpire with the bill of his cap.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 20, 2019 03:43 PM (eAMlh)

71 Falcons suck.

Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 03:43 PM (PUmDY)

72 If the software is calling balls and strikes for the bottom half, how do they get out of the cellar? They have no chance to improve.

Posted by: Boone at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (qHXO8)

73 not so, the strike zone is like the G spot. some guys can find it and some can't.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (UUkQp)

74 So is the strike zone more of a cube that the ball has to remain within while it is over the plate or is it simply a rectangle that it has to be within when it crosses over come point on the plate?

It's not a cube but it is three dimensional (math majors, help me) but theoretically the ball doesn't have to remain in the cube all the time. It can enter and exit the strike zone anywhere (think curveballs).

Posted by: mongo at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (LROYh)

75 I'm a bigger fan of MiLB than the majors. It's more fun attending the minor league games, not to mention MUCH cheaper.
Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:40 PM (JaLUs)


There's a minor league team here, where I moved. The season was already over when we got here. Can't wait for Spring!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (hku12)

76 Falcons suck.
Posted by: Cosmic Charle at October 20, 2019 03:43 PM (PUmDY)
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Just generally down on raptorial birds, eh?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 03:45 PM (iB1oa)

77 Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (HALdu)

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Dunno. I always thought of it as being a square at the front, relative to the batter's size/stance. That's why I also think it would be hard to automate. Too subjective.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:45 PM (5aX2M)

78 not so, the strike zone is like the G spot. some guys can find it and some can't.
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (UUkQp)



sure, but there is always a strike zone, you never wander across a baseball game where the game does not know whether or not it has a strike zone.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:45 PM (HALdu)

79 AI calls would also cockblock any ump who'd be inclined to throw a game via bad plate calls. I think the baseball purists aren't giving the real influence of sports betting due consideration.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:45 PM (JaLUs)

80 What the heck is MiLB, some weird subset of milfs?

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:46 PM (HALdu)

81 Dunno. I always thought of it as being a square at the front, relative to the batter's size/stance. That's why I also think it would be hard to automate. Too subjective.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:45 PM (5aX2M)



Yeah you would have to adjust it for the batter. You would think this would give shorter batters an advantage.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:47 PM (HALdu)

82 I always thought the strike zone was over the plate between the shoulder and knees.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 03:47 PM (m+0jM)

83 So they just tried a controlled explosion to bring down the cranes at the collapsed hotel in downtown New Orleans. Did not go as planned.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 20, 2019 03:47 PM (TLxpZ)

84 So is the strike zone more of a cube that the ball has to remain within while it is over the plate or is it simply a rectangle that it has to be within when it crosses over come point on the plate?
Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (HALdu)


It's supposed to be where it crosses the FRONT of the plate.

So yeah, a rectangle.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (hku12)

85 With the snowflakes in the young generation any name called will turn them into a teddy bear hugging cry baby.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (ZCEU2)

86 So is the strike zone more of a cube that the ball has to remain within while it is over the plate or is it simply a rectangle that it has to be within when it crosses over come point on the plate?

I would imagine that there would be two or more camera angles that are consistent for each game, the machine vision system would be trained over time to identify balls and strikes by comparing pitches to declared calls. That way there would still be some human element as the top umpires would have "taught" the systems their own personal strike zone.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (lD3vL)

87 My love for baseball got stomped when the Expos moved to Washington.

But I am happy the Nationals are in the World Series-not dancing on
the dugout roof happy but happy enough in a meh sort of way.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 20, 2019 03:41 PM (eAMlh)

Expos got screwed by the 1994 strike.
I once went to Olympic Stadium when the place was full. I understand completely why no one wanted to go there for football or baseball.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (Yeuu4)

88 What the heck is MiLB, some weird subset of milfs?
Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019

Minors.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (5aX2M)

89 So they just tried a controlled explosion to bring down the cranes at the collapsed hotel in downtown New Orleans. Did not go as planned.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 20, 2019 03:47 PM (TLxpZ)



When the controlled erection of a crane did not go as planned it is not surprising that the controlled explosion to bring down the controlled crane did not go so well either.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (HALdu)

90 We've identified the problem! The strike zone should be a triangle!! They're innately known and thus umpire's will intuitively get ball/strike calls right!!!

Posted by: Rene Descartes at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (H5knJ)

91 >>> What exactly is the internet for ?

The internet is for porn.

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 03:27 PM (dCRRg)
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I dunno, that dude in Iowa watched so much porn that he thought if you saw a nice lady out in a store, with her young daughter, that all you had to do to get her motor running was to "whip it out". Because in porn that's the number one turn on for the ladies.

Which he proceeded to do. Which of course freaked her the hell out, and she called the cops, who arrested him and took him to jail, where he admitted he did it.

Posted by: Boots at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (oGBso)

92 I see Nothing Nestor has disappointed the nattering nabobs of negativity.

Look out Mexico, Priscilla is just off-shore.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (E2dMO)

93 What the heck is MiLB, some weird subset of milfs?

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:46 PM (HALdu)

Minor league baseball.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (Yeuu4)

94 Minors.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (5aX2M)




that is definitely not kosher. maybe halal

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (HALdu)

95 Soccer refs are the worse, as far as being authoritarian jerks, imho.

Posted by: danoso at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (2idx/)

96 Comment above references wrong kind of balls.

Posted by: Boots at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (oGBso)

97 Minor league baseball.
Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2019 03:49 PM (Yeuu4)




Whew

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:50 PM (HALdu)

98 I like baseball, going to a game is a lot of fun, but haven't watched any on tv all year. Maybe if the Phillies were a real contender that would be different.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:50 PM (ZCEU2)

99 I always thought the strike zone was over the plate between the shoulder and knees.
Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 03:47 PM (m+0jM)


Yep, and NOBODY calls it that way. If you had a robot doing so, the game would get even more boring than it already is, because the strikeouts would escalate, and they're already historically higher than ever.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:50 PM (hku12)

100 It looks like they just made things waaay worse at the collapse site. Wish I had a live stream of the local coverage. I'm sure it'll be on the nat'l news soon enough.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 20, 2019 03:51 PM (TLxpZ)

101 It's supposed to be where it crosses the FRONT of the plate.

So yeah, a rectangle.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:48 PM (hku12)



Then that should be easy enough. They do it for tennis.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:51 PM (HALdu)

102 OT your end-of-the-world update, cease-fire holding more/less, Ottomans allowing Kurd militia to evacuate Ras al Ayn, which is kind of a big deal in terms of this whole thing, and we're demilitarizing [blowing up more s**t] of ours as we quit various positions.


Likely some really awful s**t has in fact been done by all sides - it's kind of how they roll - but appears Kurdish militia has kind of given up on generating "atrocity crisis" after some half-hearted stuff.


Of course I'm sure Norway now is losing sleep in the event that Russia can wake up and detox enough of its soldiers and get a few of their ships under way without sinking in order to mount an invasion near the North Cape - I mean, we're no longer reliable allies - but they can always take some of their oil zillions and take an extended diving trip to the Maldives or something.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:52 PM (QDnY+)

103 I like baseball, going to a game is a lot of fun, but haven't watched any on tv all year. Maybe if the Phillies were a real contender that would be different.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:50 PM (ZCEU2)


Gotta admit, one of the best things about this baseball season is that the Senators have finally made the World Series... IMMEDIATELY after Bryce Harpy left.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:53 PM (hku12)

104 Minor league baseball games are fun, really fun to take kids with all the in between innings events going ons.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 03:53 PM (ZCEU2)

105 And is there a more corrupt and capricious and arrogant group than MLB umpires?


PAC-12 refs.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 03:53 PM (axyOa)

106 The Umps blow. Stick them up their unions ass.

Embrace the new technology and get with the times.

It's 2019 not 1919.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 03:54 PM (Z+IKu)

107 It looks like they just made things waaay worse at the collapse site. Wish I had a live stream of the local coverage. I'm sure it'll be on the nat'l news soon enough.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 20, 2019 03:51 PM (TLxpZ)




It always makes me nervous when anything goes wrong in New Orleans because you know they are always just this far away from eating babies.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:54 PM (HALdu)

108 It would be funny to watch a batter reflexively abuse pitch calling software.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:54 PM (JaLUs)

109 Not having a job to cover New Orleans has to be driving Shep Smith mad.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:54 PM (HALdu)

110 The Umps blow. Stick them up their unions ass.

Embrace the new technology and get with the times.

It's 2019 not 1919.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 03:54 PM (Z+IKu)


I'm not sure there's anything better about 2019 than 1919... except the massive death rates from the flu.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:55 PM (hku12)

111 It looks like they just made things waaay worse at the collapse site. Wish I had a live stream of the local coverage. I'm sure it'll be on the nat'l news soon enough.

I would think that the lawyers would insist that there is no uncontrolled video of these rescue images.

Don't want to see a Charlie Foxtrot presented from multiple angles to a jury when seeking damages.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:56 PM (lD3vL)

112 So they tried to blow up two cranes that were tangled in the collapsed building. One of them collapsed semi-properly but the other is now hanging across the top of the building with no support at all. Probably 75 tons or so dangling over Canal Street.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 20, 2019 03:56 PM (TLxpZ)

113 Have kind or started to like Sundays with CBD. Kind of like Sunday morning television with a witty and vulgar Charles Osgood.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 03:56 PM (HALdu)

114 I'd go to minor league, if it's cheap enough. There's a team about an hour away, wish one was closer. If cheap and easy enough a few games every season would be fine. Major league not even close to worth half of the expense and hassle.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:56 PM (QDnY+)

115 I mean, we're no longer reliable allies

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I mean, when have we been? Going back to the XYZ Affair, the US has always been a "play it as it lies" kind of country. Britain, oddly enough, being the exception. For some reason, we always hook them up.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (5aX2M)

116 The variable strike zone from umpire to umpire is a part of the game. As long as they are consistent. Just like hitters, every team has a book on strike callers and you bet they read it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (yQpMk)

117 104. yes. Blue Rocks are closest to me. It's also fun to witness young talent developing.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (JaLUs)

118 There's a minor league team here, where I moved. The season was already over when we got here. Can't wait for Spring!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM (hku12)

We have a single A team moving in next year. Not sure who they're affiliated with. We lost our Oakland affiliated Double A team a few years ago. They were great their first season 35 years ago or so, with Canseco and McGuire on the field.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (MwFQu)

119 So yeah, a rectangle."

Nope. The animated rectangle on tv isn't the strike zone. It's a 5 sided prism, and the ball only has to touch it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (Dx2t8)

120 Have they considering just demo'ing a huge part of NOLA and starting from scratch? Would be fun to watch.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (QDnY+)

121 As part of home plate training, do they ever practice being in the batters box, as another ump calls balls and strikes?

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (Bf3hj)

122 NOT a Yankee's fan. But that organization somehow, someway, always finds a way.

Sell the team, Wilpon!

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 20, 2019 04:00 PM (Bf3hj)

123 I'd go to minor league, if it's cheap enough.
There's a team about an hour away, wish one was closer. If cheap and
easy enough a few games every season would be fine. Major league not
even close to worth half of the expense and hassle.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 03:56 PM (QDnY+)

I learned to appreciate Stephen Strasburg when he was on assignment to the Potomac Nationals after his Tommy John surgery. Saw him warm up from about 50 feet away and pitch 3 innings in a tin can of a ballpark. Ticket was something like $10.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2019 04:00 PM (Yeuu4)

124 "Last night, so this isn't a partisan gripe about the inherent unfairness of MLB toward The Yankees"

Fuck the fucking Yankees in the ass with a flaming concertina wire wrapped pineapple.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 04:00 PM (88cFV)

125 Trying to care less

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 04:01 PM (rpxSz)

126 "Yeah you would have to adjust it for the batter. You would think this would give shorter batters an advantage."

See Eddie Gaedel.

Fun fact: Eddie Gaedel's grandnephew, Kyle Gaedele (6'3") played in the minor leagues for a while.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 20, 2019 04:01 PM (S+f+m)

127 Nood Food.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 04:01 PM (Dhht7)

128 nope can't do it

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 04:02 PM (rpxSz)

129
Umpiring clearly needs federal regulation. Which requires a new federal agency. It will be paid for with a new baseball tax.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 20, 2019 04:02 PM (t5m5e)

130 I mean, when have we been? Going back to the XYZ Affair, the US has always been a "play it as it lies" kind of country. Britain, oddly enough, being the exception. For some reason, we always hook them up.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (5aX2M)

There was that disagreement in 1812-1814. And there was the occasional local dustup over the exact location of the US-Canada border, especially in the Puget Sound islands.

54-40 or fight.

A Maine man, James Blaine, traded all of Upper Canada worth having for Aroostook County.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 04:02 PM (MwFQu)

131 We have a single A team moving in next year. Not
sure who they're affiliated with. We lost our Oakland affiliated Double
A team a few years ago. They were great their first season 35 years ago
or so, with Canseco and McGuire on the field.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (MwFQu)

I saw Canseco and McGuire when the As came to visit; hometown had the triple-A affiliate.

Among others, I saw Fernando Valenzuela pitch, close enough to see the eye-roll.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2019 04:03 PM (Yeuu4)

132 Pitchers could rightly complain that they don't get the high strike anymore.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:04 PM (yQpMk)

133 Was sarcasm. For this planet and species, we're very reliable.


And for those who doubt us, the solution is easy - never, ever, seek our help again. Voila.


Oh. Right.



Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:04 PM (QDnY+)

134 Anyway here's a bro-hug to anyone smarting from their team not advancing in the playoffs. It's disappointing. *very superficial hug at arm's length*

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 04:05 PM (JaLUs)

135 My love for baseball got stomped when the Expos moved to Washington.

Washington:

First in War.
First in Peace.
Last in the American League.

But this year, oddly, first in the National League.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 04:06 PM (MwFQu)

136 To me, one of the most endearing aspects of baseball rules is that they are essentially common law, having been codified to address actual occurrences in the game. For instance, there was originally no rule that said that he runner had to advance from home plate to first on a ball hit in fair territory. Batsmen who hit in to obvious double play balls refused to advance, and force baserunners to advance, and just waited at the plate to be tagged out, exchanging one out for two.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:07 PM (yQpMk)

137 Was sarcasm. For this planet and species, we're very reliable.

And for those who doubt us, the solution is easy - never, ever, seek our help again. Voila.

Oh. Right.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:04 PM (QDnY

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LOL. Ok, I get it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:07 PM (5aX2M)

138 Vendette, saw Strasburg pitch his last college game. Now that was priced right. Think it was free. Can see the stadium lights from my porch.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 04:07 PM (QDnY+)

139 Yudishthira's Dice @ 115-Always hooked England up? Looks like they're on their own with this mohadan invasion they got going on. But hey, we are allowing that to happen here too. Question is who is gonna step in and call this pitch?

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 04:09 PM (UUkQp)

140 The other cool thing about baseball is that if you don't know the actual rule, just imagine what is the fairest thing to do in a situation and you will be correct. I know of no counter intuitive, contradictory, or unfair rules in baseball.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:11 PM (yQpMk)

141 There was that disagreement in 1812-1814. And there was the occasional local dustup over the exact location of the US-Canada border, especially in the Puget Sound islands.

54-40 or fight.

A Maine man, James Blaine, traded all of Upper Canada worth having for Aroostook County.

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Oh, for sure. I was mostly talking about the last 150 years. Particularly the last 75, when we've been maintaining them as a prosperous regional power for nothing in return (except for the constant undermining and backbiting, Thatcher excepted).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:11 PM (5aX2M)

142 I do encourage you, CBD, to write that piece about MLB's "inherent unfairness" towards the poor, poor Yankees. I haven't read a good piece of written humor in quite a long, long time!

Posted by: John Rogers at October 20, 2019 04:16 PM (IQhlk)

143 Babylon Bee reports MLB replacing umpires with bears.

Posted by: phillip weiss at October 20, 2019 04:18 PM (pECoJ)

144 Sometimes the rules are set up to be fair to the umpire. For instance, a tipped ball into the catchers mitt, in his normal position, being a called strike. Sure, most times it's obvious to the umpire's eyes and ears that the bat touched the ball, but sometimes it barely touches. Having this rule prevents the umpire from having to call very marginal cases. The batter swings, the ball is in the catchers mitt, it's a called strike. One could argue that it is fairer to the hitter as well since it's not a caught foul and an out, except on strike three, just like any called strike.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:19 PM (yQpMk)

145 The best definition that I ever heard for a called strike is "a ball thrown so well as to be hittable, yet thrown so very well that it remains unhit".

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:22 PM (yQpMk)

146 I live in Houston so F the Yankees and their woose fans.

Posted by: Dogbert at October 20, 2019 04:23 PM (+dTjI)

147 Oh, and there was that time when they abetted a coup attempt a couple of years back.

If I were SecState, Britain would bend the knee, or twist in the wind.

Luckily for Britain, the fake-o, one-sided "Special Relationship" is maintained, despite the manifest reasons it shouldn't.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:23 PM (5aX2M)

148 CBD, you are right, the NBA refs inject themselves into the game an order of magnitude beyond the MLB. The MLB umps are pikers in comparison. Still, the strike zone in game 6 ALCS sucked.

I'm just glad to quit hearing Joe Buck go down on all the Yankee team members.

Posted by: Leland at October 20, 2019 04:24 PM (IG4sd)

149 95 m/h is 140 ft/s. Home plate is about 18 inches wide and less than 18 inches deep. A pitch is over home plate around 140th of one second. How can anyone reliably call that in all but the most obvious cases. Anything around the perimeter of the zone is impossible. And is the zone defined by the extended distance when the batter is standing or by the compressed distance when he is ready to hit? How many other variables are there?

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 20, 2019 04:25 PM (+Kpte)

150 Oh, and there was that time when they abetted a coup attempt a couple of years back.

If I were SecState, Britain would bend the knee, or twist in the wind.

Luckily for Britain, the fake-o, one-sided "Special Relationship" is maintained, despite the manifest reasons it shouldn't.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 04:23 PM (5aX2M)




The have to be made to pay for what they did.

Posted by: not so at October 20, 2019 04:35 PM (HALdu)

151 In the past 5-6 years I have come back to watching MBL since the strikes. With that being said I only watching about 10 reg season games but will watch all of the playoffs and series. Lovin' it that the series will be Astros vs Nationals

Originally from Jersey. Mother loved, loved the Yankees and Fred Couples (not that either has anything to do with the other). Me, eh, when it comes to the Yanks. Sorry for your loss.



SOOOOOO GLAD THE YANKS DIDN'T MAKE IT.

Posted by: zanne at October 20, 2019 04:40 PM (NLEnr)

152 Guess I'll have to dig out my Mets cap.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 04:42 PM (MwFQu)

153 The only problem with inter league play is that both Boston teams can't lose when they play.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2019 04:43 PM (MwFQu)

154 not so, the strike zone is like the G spot. some guys can find it and some can't.
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 03:44 PM


My people have developed a solution for this issue.

Posted by: Abdul bin McAbdullyface at October 20, 2019 04:50 PM (DMUuz)

155 What is best in life? The lamentations of Yankee fans.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 04:54 PM (WEBkv)

156 The older I get, the more I wonder how adults can root for jerseys.

It IS pathetic. Especially when grown men act as though THEY play on the team. All they do is sit on the sofa and watch.

"My team beat your team, which makes me ... uh ... what?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 05:08 PM (YqDXo)

157
*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: strong pimp paw mcclaws at October 20, 2019 05:09 PM (13dPG)

158 Unfairness of the MLB towards the Yankees??

You're just trolling. Well done.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 20, 2019 05:09 PM (A+lP4)

159 95 m/h is 140 ft/s. Home plate is about 18 inches wide and less than 18 inches deep. A pitch is over home plate around 140th of one second. How can anyone reliably call that in all but the most obvious cases. Anything around the perimeter of the zone is impossible.

Actually, it's not as hard as you might think. Good hitters are looking at the ball in passing, and usually have a very good eye for balls and strikes.

Umpires are in a great position, standing directly in the path of the ball and looking down at the plate to see if the ball passes through where they're looking. Umpires invariably set up on the inside corner (i.e., 3B side for a RH hitter, 1B side for a LH hitter) so they can usually call inside pitches pretty well. Outside pitches, not so much. Most umpires will give a few inches on the outside corner, probably partly because they have to judge the distance the ball is away from them.

Usually umpires can also judge balls and strikes by reference to the catcher. For example, anything above shoulder height on the catcher was high when it crossed the plate. If the catcher is set up directly behind the plate, his knees are good approximations to the corners of the plate. Pitchers in bullpens often throw left knee, right knee, left shoulder, right shoulder for this reason.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 05:17 PM (YqDXo)

160 132 Pitchers could rightly complain that they don't get the high strike anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 20, 2019 04:04 PM (yQpMk)


That's absolutely true. They don't get it because batting averages would plummet if they did. Even now, working hitters up and down is very effective, especially when the pitcher is throwing 90+. Notice how many batters whiff when they get strikes 1 and 2 down, and then a fastball up (out of the zone). If high strikes were called, strikeouts would skyrocket.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 05:22 PM (YqDXo)

161 http://bit.ly/33F8cuS
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Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (BqBId)

162 Joe West needs to lose about 20 pounds ... from the neck up.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 20, 2019 05:37 PM (jWe5r)

163 Want your MIND BLOWN?

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Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 05:34 PM (BqBId)

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Message to content creators: if your content is something you deem to be important, and you want it widely disseminated, don't wrap it up in funky scripts or novel software. Use the tried and true.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2019 05:44 PM (QugKX)

164 http://bit.ly/33F8cuS
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Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 05:51 PM (BqBId)

165 121 As part of home plate training, do they ever practice being in the batters box, as another ump calls balls and strikes?

Posted by: Raul Endymion at October 20, 2019 03:58 PM (Bf3hj)

No, they don't. In fact, umpire schools don't even teach their students how to call balls and strikes, because it's too hard. The schools figure the umps will figure it out for themselves as they work their way through the minor leagues (just as the players do).

Posted by: mongo at October 20, 2019 05:52 PM (LROYh)

166 Does your seeing-eye dog need laser eye surgery too!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2019 05:53 PM (Dh1wo)

167 "And there was the occasional local dustup over the exact location of
the US-Canada border, especially in the Puget Sound islands"

Pig War!

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 20, 2019 05:54 PM (jWe5r)

168 I can hear the screams of George Will from here.

Posted by: JoeBar at October 20, 2019 05:55 PM (u02T3)

169 I'd just point out that the Yankees used to win when George Costanza was the Assistant to the Traveling Secretary. Just sayin'.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2019 05:59 PM (Dh1wo)

170 I stopped caring about baseball when my Astros moved to the Fake Baseball League in 2013.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 20, 2019 06:01 PM (ZXzOT)

171 Not a baseball fan, but just a comment on CBDs recommendation.

It is a little ill-thought. Half the umps will be below average every month. If it was completely random, then half of them will be below average the next month. That would suspend 25% of them!

His point is well taken though. In manufacturing we use control charts and there are accepted ways of determining if a measured parameter is "out of control" and in need of remediation.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 20, 2019 06:42 PM (LWu6U)

172 reading the comments,...

I think humans have two needs that pro-sports satisfies. First, I think most people have a need to belong to a group, or groups. Religion, Work, families, communities, etc. are all examples, but pro sports also qualifies.

Not sure why this is, but it is interesting to me to think of how changes on other areas like the decay in religious participation, the disintegration of families, and the dilution of communities has possibly caused people to identify with groups in other areas such as politics.

Anther basic human need is some success each day. People can not deal with constant failure, defeat, oppression and attack; and so they find ways of declaring victory over what they can.

This too affects our political life and I think it can be seen in people becoming "activists" and SJWs. They suck at everything and lose at everything, so they attack others for not being as woke as they are. I think it also causes people to cheat and break laws, and it causes people like the never trumpers - who may have been legitimately against Trump before the election - to distort reality and become so smug in their attacks on him now. These are constructed victories since they are not really winning or succeeding at anything and that is much the same with pro sports.

OK, I go to work now.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 20, 2019 06:50 PM (LWu6U)

173 Meh, they already have graphic super imposition of the 'strike zone' on TV. Getting 3 camera's set up to take pitches out of the umpire's power would improve the game. Fuck judging umpires, those assholes are blind or stupid, sometimes both.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at October 20, 2019 07:06 PM (qZdIZ)

174 F that

I'm okay with them being trained with the pitch computer as part of the process but replacing umps with a computer? F that with a backhoe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 07:53 PM (KZzsI)

Groucho Marx Redux: "Who Are You Going To Believe, Me Or Your Own Eyes?"
Islam Isn't Responsible For Islamic Terrorism? Huh?

My grandfather was a policeman in pre-independence Israel, and he used to patrol Arab villages on horseback (he also hunted wild pigs with a spear!). He used to say that the people were always friendly, but that they were incredible liars, and here we have a fine example of just that!

Professor Claims Islam Is Not The Root Of Islamic Terrorism

This continues a common trend of denying the Islamist roots of jihadi attacks, even as survey data show that a deeply disturbing minority of Muslim believers support terrorism. As Israeli analyst Shmuel Bar wrote in 2004, in leading Islamic clerical circles, “radical ideology does not represent a marginal and extremist perversion of Islam, but rather a[n] … increasingly mainstream interpretation.”
But I thought that "Islam is a religion of peace!"

Of course none of this is new, but what I find interesting are the similarities between this apologist for mass murder and the modern Left in America. They effortlessly obfuscate and lie and ascribe their own beliefs and actions to their enemies. Perhaps that is why they are such vociferous defenders of Islamic hate and killing?

Below the fold is a short video on "Tagiya," which isn't quite what the learned professor is doing, but its close!

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 Afternoon Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:16 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Roomy!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (a4EWo)

3 We have the whole place to ourselves DDS.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

4 Islam - religion of war, conquest, deception, slavery

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 12:19 PM (G546f)

5 3 We have the whole place to ourselves DDS.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

There's a dentist in the house?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 12:20 PM (NWiLs)

6 A religion of slaves and slayers, raiders and robbers. It sucks the West is declining just as Islam ramps up its fuckery, what am I saying, cause and effect.

Posted by: Brother Cavil says at October 20, 2019 12:23 PM (D5yyd)

7 Oh, I tend to judge a person or group not by what they say, but what they DO.

Which is why that taqiyya bullshit doesn't work on me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (Z4rgH)

8 But I thought that "Islam is a religion of peace!"

You would be correct.

Posted by: Mesquite-scented Druid phiolospher GWB at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (EgshT)

9 Islam - religion of war, conquest, deception, slavery

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 12:19 PM (G546f)

Ya left out 'submission'.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 12:25 PM (X/Pw5)

10 Just finished Haxan, and now convinced Hillary is a witch

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:26 PM (ZCEU2)

11 David Wood's videos on Islam are simultaneously entertaining, educational and depressing.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 20, 2019 12:26 PM (JCZqz)

12 It's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: Abdul Costanza at October 20, 2019 12:27 PM (ZLI7S)

13 Lots of people practice Taqiyya. If you live in some states, or work in some places, you do it every day, because if the people around you knew you were not a practicing leftists, they would get you fired from your job, kicked out of your university, or wouldn't let you shop for groceries without hounding you, or worse.

So if you're someone doing that, it sure makes sense. Two questions though: Why are you living there, and what are you doing to fight the leftists with whom you associate?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:27 PM (hku12)

14 OT. WAY OT...

Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

Felicity... just STFU.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:28 PM (Cssks)

15 It would fun to have a conversation with him, and say "you know I agree with you, I don't think it's Islam, I think rather that it's simply the fact that all Arabs are vicious untrustworthy barbaric murderers."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (V2Yro)

16 Let's not bicker and argue about who kills who.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (XVuno)

17 It's on my tablet as a ebook but haven't read it in awhile History of Jihad, Mohammed to Isis by Robert Spencer so I have no illusions on what Islam's followers are doing.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (ZCEU2)

18 What would we do without those tenured dhimmis?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (y7DUB)

19
A religion of slaves and slayers, raiders and robbers. It sucks the West is declining just as Islam ramps up its fuckery, what am I saying, cause and effect.
Posted by: Brother Cavil


What will China and Indian have to say about it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 12:29 PM (aKsyK)

20 You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere who disapprove of tactics like suicide bombing - except in Israel.

Sorry - if you support terrorist bombings of civilian targets in Israel, eventually you will support terrorist bombings of civilian targets everywhere else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2019 12:30 PM (I2/tG)

21 Of course Islam is THE religion of peace!

Peace comes after you subjugate the non-believers, and keep a tight lid on what the believers can and cannot do.

Peace is easy, when you have total control.

Peace is not freedom.

Again, look at your leftist enclaves. They SEEK peace, they crave it! They want YOU to adhere to their standards, and will work tirelessly to see that you do, because to them, peace will come when nobody disagrees with them.

Peace, needless to say, is overrated.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:31 PM (hku12)

22 Until we get the balls to really fight back, this will continue

make a "she devil" list and carry it out

check off one or two, it will stop

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:33 PM (rpxSz)

23 Oh, I tend to judge a person or group not by what they say, but what they DO.



Which is why that taqiyya bullshit doesn't work on me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:24 PM (Z4rgH)


Bingo. I view islam as a cancer, its followers as cancer cells, and nukes as chemo. Fuck'em

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 20, 2019 12:33 PM (9Om/r)

24 Just came to me Leftism is also a religion of peace, they constantly say do what we want and we will leave you alone as long as you follow our beliefs.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (ZCEU2)

25 14 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

"They made us eat the sushi with a plastic fork!!"

"I couldn't even get a hair appointment!"

"The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'."

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (Z4rgH)

26 Tagiya!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6amDbAwlY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

27 Islam is the religion of submission.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (I2/tG)

28 Chris Wallace thinks if he blows Rick Wilson in a gloryhole. he's a connected republican

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:36 PM (rpxSz)

29 You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere

We do? Well I'll be dipped in barbecue sauce!

Posted by: Mesquite-scented Druid phiolospher GWB at October 20, 2019 12:36 PM (EgshT)

30 25 14 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

"They made us eat the sushi with a plastic fork!!"

"I couldn't even get a hair appointment!"

"The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'."
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (Z4rgH)

"My schmundie's the wrong shade of pink"

oh, wait

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:38 PM (rpxSz)

31 And since I have to go out for the day, imma go OT too.

Drinking (and partying in general) is a violent pastime.

So go ahead, have a shot or ten. Pound it down, slam back another, and get

smashed, hammered, ripped, wasted, tanked, bombed, plowed, totaled, wrecked, spaced, stoned, lit, blasted, tore up, blitzed...

Afterwards, don't blame me for the hangover.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Z4rgH)

32 Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Posted by: Islam Hulk at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (+y/Ru)

33
Sorry - if you support terrorist bombings of civilian targets in Israel, eventually you will support terrorist bombings of civilian targets everywhere else.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


They'll claim there are no civilian Israelis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

34 I think the administration should be backing Mulvaney more.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2019 12:39 PM (ZfRYq)

35 The house wine was terrible. They called it 'Pruno'.

That's good stuff. *hic* *shart*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at October 20, 2019 12:40 PM (EgshT)

36 Islam is not worth one drop of American blood

Bombs R US, it's what we do

Should have flatten Mecca after 9-11

I don't mean bomb, I mean flatten

It's what they understand

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:41 PM (rpxSz)

37 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

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Hard time! She's doing hard time!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:42 PM (+y/Ru)

38 Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:34 PM (ZCEU2)

Bingo!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 12:42 PM (wYseH)

39 AOS contaminated with Marxist comedy!!!!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 20, 2019 12:42 PM (e1mEI)

40 Why does everyone want Me to read Felicity 's time in the slammer?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:43 PM (ZCEU2)

41 Afterwards, don't blame me for the hangover.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 20, 2019 12:38 PM (Z4rgH)

I wont

Just don't try to horn in on the fun

deal ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:43 PM (rpxSz)

42 So go ahead, have a shot or ten. Pound it down, slam back another, and get

smashed, hammered, ripped, wasted, tanked, bombed, plowed, totaled, wrecked, spaced, stoned, lit, blasted, tore up, blitzed...

Afterwards, don't blame me for the hangover.
Posted by: GnuBreed

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In such cases, I normally stand over the participant while they are yakking it up and holler things like; "Greasy pork chops!!, bacon fat!! and the like."

I do enjoy the quiet for the next two days.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:43 PM (Y4EXg)

43 So would this professor agree that being white is not the root of White Supremacy?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2019 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

44 The college scam is a resume enhancer to the grool of Hollywood

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:45 PM (rpxSz)

45 Islam is, was and always has been pure shit.

Not hard to understand.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 12:45 PM (Z+IKu)

46 Wait, pork chops?

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 12:45 PM (dCRRg)

47 I do have to ask the cob, M Dildo, why he keeps sending me emails urging me to buy his essential oils.

And I thought everyone knew that White Christianity is responsible for Islamist violence. Obama thought so, and he cannot be in error.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 12:46 PM (ZbwAu)

48 Love a good pork chop.

Posted by: Mesquite-scented Druid phiolospher GWB at October 20, 2019 12:47 PM (EgshT)

49 46 Wait, pork chops?
Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 12:45 PM (dCRRg)

in a dirty ashtray

Posted by: zombie CHET at October 20, 2019 12:47 PM (rpxSz)

50 Is Haxon good? There is a yt video of Donovan Season of the Witch with Haxon footage that is very good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 12:48 PM (PUmDY)

51
Hope Ben Had's homeowners insurance covered the damage and everyone managed to meet bail after this weekend's TxMoMe. Understand it was epic. Perhaps, some day....

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 12:48 PM (7rVsF)

52 Speaking of feckless pieces of shit . . .

Pete Buttigieg totally wusses out on Meet the Press, refuses to defend Tulsi Gabbard from Hillary's 'Russian asset' attack

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Maybe he's allergic strolls in Fort Marcy Park.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (+y/Ru)

53 I saw Donovan open for the 4 seasons in Salem, May 1647

Posted by: Aurther Miller at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (rpxSz)

54 " Obama thought so, and he cannot be in error."

To be fair, he once thought he was mistaken.

But, he was wrong.

And openly admitted it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (cqNba)

55 Islam seems to me to be carrot and stick, follow and it's promises of rape, pillage and loot, if not it's a beating with the stick until you decide to follow. Every conquest into new territories follows this as soon as they are the ruling class.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (ZCEU2)

56 If you really want to delve into islam, go to jihadwatch.org. Scary stuff there kids.

Posted by: shibumi at October 20, 2019 12:51 PM (2KYgn)

57 >>> in a dirty ashtray

Da fuq is wrong witchoo?

You're trying to make someone puke. I just want pork chops.

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 12:51 PM (dCRRg)

58 53, in Atlantis?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 12:52 PM (PUmDY)

59 'Sup y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:53 PM (HBuMf)

60 RR should of put some hurt on the fucking SN in 1981

it's all they understand

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:53 PM (rpxSz)

61 The Left. Not only grossly unfit for any responsible role in society but a complete moral hazard. And their unfitness and hazardousness are matched by their aggression. What a mess.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 12:54 PM (H8QX8)

62 Whoops missed Salem part.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 12:54 PM (PUmDY)

63 58 53, in Atlantis?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 12:52 PM (PUmDY)

Way down, below the ocean.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 12:55 PM (X/Pw5)

64
If you want to engender anti-Islsmic feelings among teenagers, remind them who invented algebra.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 12:55 PM (7rVsF)

65 "You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere"

Moderate compared to what?

They won't actively cut your head off, but will demand Sharia compliance? Will protect/house jihadists in their midst? Will be "moderate" until they have 10+% of the community?

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 12:55 PM (Cus5s)

66 A reminder that Islam is not the only threat.

https://www.amgreatness.com/2019/10/19/who-the-hell-do-they-think-they-are/

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

67 57 >>> in a dirty ashtray

Da fuq is wrong witchoo?

You're trying to make someone puke. I just want pork chops.
Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 12:51 PM (dCRRg)


how soon we are forgotten

Posted by: Bill Paxton at October 20, 2019 12:56 PM (rpxSz)

68 Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 12:53 PM (rpxSz)

Gonna call you that subtle reference.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 12:56 PM (cqNba)

69 51
Hope Ben Had's homeowners insurance covered the damage and everyone managed to meet bail after this weekend's TxMoMe. Understand it was epic. Perhaps, some day....
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 12:48 PM (7rVsF)
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Amazingly excellent MoMe. Beg Had is the BEST.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:56 PM (HBuMf)

70 Speaking of feckless pieces of shit . . .

Pete Buttigieg totally wusses out on Meet the Press, refuses to defend Tulsi Gabbard from Hillary's 'Russian asset' attack

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Maybe he's allergic strolls in Fort Marcy Park.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (+y/Ru)


I watched a nice clip from the Democrat/Tranny show they had last week. Some dude in a dress was roasting the so-called Presidential candidates on the stage, and all of them, every single damned one of those "candidates" treated this clown with deference.

As painful as it was for me to watch, I realize it was that much more painful for these clowns on the stage to have to pretend to respect this idiot who was ranting and raving about basically nothing.

Like it or not, Buttgig and Cori and Beano O'Fraud have to pretend to want to listen to their voters, and that, my fronds, is pure joy to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:56 PM (hku12)

71 Question is, will Huffman portray herself in the made for Wal-Mart bargain bin movie about her prison time?

Hope the DVD cover has oldtimey 50's artwork from women's prison movies. That would be perfect.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 20, 2019 12:56 PM (e1mEI)

72 F'n phone. Ben Had.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 12:57 PM (HBuMf)

73 Weasel! You on terra firma yet?

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 12:57 PM (M9b/h)

74 Recap Erdo-san threatens to unleash me on Europe if they don't do what he wants.

Posted by: Turkish Godzilla at October 20, 2019 12:58 PM (RqQOX)

75 Gonna call you on that subtle reference.

Fat fingers of stupid seem to be spending the day on my keyboard.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 12:58 PM (cqNba)

76 65 "You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere"

dynamite without a blasting cap = Mod Muzz

Posted by: Bill Paxton at October 20, 2019 12:59 PM (rpxSz)

77 It's quite shocking to see how many Muslims are here, but moderates? If 1 in 100 is radicalized that only leaves one million on the planet

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 01:00 PM (ZCEU2)

78 Pete Buttigieg totally wusses out on Meet the Press, refuses to defend Tulsi Gabbard from Hillary's 'Russian asset' attack

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Maybe he's allergic strolls in Fort Marcy Park.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 12:50 PM (+y/Ru)

Tulsi aint got a hangdown

Cankles just might

Posted by: Bill Paxton at October 20, 2019 01:00 PM (rpxSz)

79 "You have a lot of "moderate" Muslims in the United States and elsewhere"
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Moderate compared to what?

They won't actively cut your head off, but will demand Sharia compliance? Will protect/house jihadists in their midst? Will be "moderate" until they have 10+% of the community?
Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 12:55 PM (Cus5s)


PJ Watson had a nice video of clips from an event of "moderate" Brit muzzies, and the guy doing the talk was asking everyone in the audience to raise their hands if they agreed with this, that, and the other.

All those so-called moderates were pretty much fine with the violence and coercion perpetrated by radical Islam.

They're not really hiding it.

It's the Western white guilt crowd who are fighting REAL hard to pretend otherwise.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 01:00 PM (hku12)

80 His bit at the end is dead on.

Fully Westernized Muslims usually know jack-shit about Islam. It's fascinating. As a Jew, I know more about Islam. And lapsed Jews know more about Judaism. And lapsed Christians know more about Christianity.

But many, many American "Muslims" know little more than "don't drink or eat pork." And yes, I'm sure some are practicing taqqiya. But most are clueless. If they ever traveled to the mother country they'd get a rude awakening.

It's why I always draw a distinction between them and the Omars and Tlaibs of the world, who damn well know the score and should be extirpated.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:01 PM (5aX2M)

81 Weasel! You on terra firma yet?

Posted by: bluebell at October 20, 2019 12:57 PM (M9b/h)
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Not yet, in the air. Just left Dallas.
That was soooooo much fun.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:02 PM (HBuMf)

82 My face is sore from laughing.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:04 PM (HBuMf)

83 Call me incredulous about Islam's boast of having invented algebra. Mainly because a culture that produced that level of science and logic would have expressed such brilliance in other areas of society, imho.

Posted by: fly gal at October 20, 2019 01:05 PM (QHoyZ)

84 Can't believe Linda Graham has risen to such a place of importance


he is an ineffectual FOOL

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 01:07 PM (rpxSz)

85 Why is Hillary attacking Tulsi?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:07 PM (PUmDY)

86 " Call me incredulous about Islam's boast of having invented algebra. Mainly because a culture that produced that level of science and logic would have expressed such brilliance in other areas of society, imho."

I always thought they peaked at the 'Buzzing Rug' level of aeronautic travel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 01:07 PM (cqNba)

87 Magic Carpet Ride?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:09 PM (PUmDY)

88 All those so-called moderates were pretty much fine with the violence and coercion perpetrated by radical Islam.

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The Muslims who regularly attend mosque are more-or-less accepting/enthusiastic about Sharia. But we aren't allowed to talk about that.

The problem, as always, is the Left. As long as they command the culture, it's unacceptable to demand loyalty from the Muslims. Fuck, we can't even speak about their open disloyalty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:09 PM (5aX2M)

89

Bing home page has a smiling Ewok looking thing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 01:09 PM (aKsyK)

90 After meeting Ben Had, it's easy to understand why she is so loved.

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at October 20, 2019 01:10 PM (xkudx)

91 I'm trying to stifle my jealousy of all the TxMoMe attendees.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 01:10 PM (NWiLs)

92
A reminder that Islam is not the only threat.

https://www.amgreatness.com/2019/10/19/who-the-hell-do-they-think-they-are/
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


They're openly bragging about their Seven Days In May coup plotting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 01:11 PM (aKsyK)

93 Not sure if anyone has mentioned that there was a woman killed here in a small town outside Charlotte on Monday by a person driving a car thru a parking lot, trying to hit people. Murder 1 charge. And several other charges. Driver named Sawan al Shabani. How often is this happening in small towns across our country?

Posted by: NCKate at October 20, 2019 01:11 PM (rx1QH)

94 *waves bye to Weasel, bluebell, and everyone else leaving Texas*

Posted by: SMH at October 20, 2019 01:12 PM (s5Kql)

95 Why is Hillary attacking Tulsi?

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She's Kookoo for Cocoa Puffs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

96
Why is Hillary attacking Tulsi?

Hillary hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2019 01:16 PM (aKsyK)

97 It is like Bride of Frankenstein vs the Witch

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:16 PM (QF1yA)

98 Why is Hillary attacking Tulsi?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:07 PM (PUmDY)

She'll get around to all of them, eventually.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 01:16 PM (X/Pw5)

99 Moderate Islam.

Ahhhh....I don't think so.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 01:17 PM (axyOa)

100 Bye SMH. It was so nice to see you and Ex-Ex again!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:17 PM (HBuMf)

101 Explaining Hillary Clinton's feud with Tulsi Gabbard

https://tinyurl.com/yx9kos8c

Posted by: SMH at October 20, 2019 01:18 PM (s5Kql)

102 I'm something of a taqiyyologist, myself.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at October 20, 2019 01:19 PM (upfer)

103 So...the lead investigator (I think I got that right)of Epstein's "suicide " has died after a short illness. He was 50.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 01:19 PM (axyOa)

104
he is an ineffectual FOOL

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 01:07 PM (rpxSz)
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This is about me isn't it?

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:19 PM (HBuMf)

105 Sincere prayers for all to return home safely from Corsicana as the Eromers have. It was a taste of heaven to hobnob with the horde and we miss y'all something fierce aready. A short handgun range report: First nobody got shooted self-inflicted nor otherwise for which I give thanks to Allmighty GOD. I estimate some tad shy of 2000 rounds assorted was fired from an assortment of of probably 30 handguns including one BFR belonging to some desperado. It was awesome as was the autobeebee dispenser, and in betwixt those projectiles was a plethora, a cornucopia of different calibers.
Was pleased to see all gunners show up with ear and eye protection and pants although some ettes had on rather lowcut casecatching blouses (yeah you, Mrs. E). Some good clean fun was had and valuable knowledge obtained. According to final inventory/field day everybody left with all their equipment except for a unique eyeglasses and case, which were given to Jennifer. A box of Luger ammo is believed to be returned to owner. Now for the negative. Whoever got Mrs. E's black Keltec beercoozie out of her silver ice chest better watch their six. You have seen her shoot.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 01:20 PM (UUkQp)

106 Why is Hillary attacking Tulsi?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie
________

Since this is the Oracle of Tanqueray we're talking about, let's start with the obvious: It's true.

Now unless you can prove that she intended to lie, we have to accept it.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 01:20 PM (NH9pa)

107 Thee first thing one needs to learn to understand 'islamic terrorism' is that to the islamist it is 'terrorism' but a well established and moral means of warfare and telling the kafir that they are not at war.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2019 01:20 PM (1g7ch)

108 85 That is so out from outer left field it's a misery to me other than the possibility Hillary is fkin nuts.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 01:21 PM (ZCEU2)

109 Didn't GWB coin spew the phrase "religion of peace"?

And if so, why are the same leftards-- who insist that everything that man ever did, thought, spoke, &etc. was WRONG-- quoting him all the fcuking time?

Posted by: JQ at October 20, 2019 01:22 PM (gP/Z3)

110 94
*waves bye to Weasel, bluebell, and everyone else leaving Texas*


I hope everyone had as good a time as we did. Looking forward to next time!Safe travels to all.

Posted by: Rancherbob at October 20, 2019 01:22 PM (Jf1JH)

111 Moderate Islam.

Ahhhh....I don't think so.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2019 01:17 PM (axyOa

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It exists, but only sort of. What we understand as being moderate paints a target on your back. It's much more accurate to refer to them as radical reformers.

What can be understood as "moderate" Islam is just "not actively strapping a bomb to your kid."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:22 PM (5aX2M)

112
Not that I'm going to add a lot to the proceedings, but I'd like to come to a MoMe some year. Her Majesty's knee prevented me from going this year. Happy everyone had a good time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 01:22 PM (7rVsF)

113 There are plenty of Muslims in my neck of the woods and , to tell the truth, at present ,most of them seem to only care about making money-- (and driving around like maniacs in their BMW's and Mercedes) --something they are allowed to do here that they can't do in the shitholes they hail from.
I know most of them support terrorism to one degree or another--as long as it's "over there."

That said, the real radicalization often occurs when the second or third generation American Muslim goes to college and is exposed the toxic ideas of our very own radical Left professoriate.
This is why I think it's going to get worse.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 01:23 PM (NFEMn)

114 "other than the possibility Hillary is fkin nuts."


Let us ask Occam's 8'Ball


*Shakes*


The spirits say 'Yes'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 01:23 PM (cqNba)

115 More like the Oracle of Kirkland

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:24 PM (QF1yA)

116 Proof that a Stratocaster makes everything better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPYDJVEPt4

Posted by: Abdul Costanza at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

117 Yes, Muslims are easy, natural liars. They lie as easily as breathing, and without breaking a sweat.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (NFEMn)

118 "It's the Western white guilt crowd who are fighting REAL hard to pretend otherwise" Posted by: BurtTC

right ... imo that white (and Western) guilt tripping is the root of many/most troubles. "The Strange Death of Europe" says it is so odd that they refuse to believe in or defend their own heritage/identity.

I put emphasis on such teaching in the institutional church ... their teaching we are shameful sinners, and an emphasis on how we made Jesus suffer. The resurrection/glory/victory is central. The defeat of the evil one ... we are more than conquerors now. "Church" is a time to rejoice and remind ourselves of that, after a week of the world telling us how evil/vile we are. Sin nature does not rule us, that was paid for, overcome.


We are freed from that condemnation, we are not supposed to swim in the guilt of the past. When the church is laying guilt trips on us, they are doing it wrong. It is an evil SJW tactic -- one of the worst tactics about how the institutional church tries to control us. (I'm not evangelical, but I like the Blues Brothers church scene of rejoicing, Elwood seeing the light)


... it is more evident to us on the political scene ... but I think the societal rot is not just the attacks on the Church, such doctrinal error has infiltrated the church. We know we are not perfect, but we live rejoicing in thankfulness for redemption ... Adam's sin no longer holds sway over us ... no guilt, victory in hand.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (Cus5s)

119 That guy presents very well. I liked his bit where your Western Muslim friends might very well believe the same charade that you were told about Islam.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (NpvYf)

120 We did too, rancherBob!

See you next year, Weasel.

Posted by: SMH at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (s5Kql)

121 possibility Hillary is fkin nuts.

The sun rising in the east, death and taxes are all black swans by comparison.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 01:26 PM (T6t7i)

122
I hope everyone had as good a time as we did. Looking forward to next time!Safe travels to all.
Posted by: Rancherbob at October 20, 2019 01:22 PM (Jf1JH)
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Really hated to leave last Rancherbob! I'm normally immediately homesick but not this week! Best to you and your bride - can't say thank you enough!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:27 PM (HBuMf)

123 Were there any people that RVed or tent camped this year?

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 01:27 PM (UUBmN)

124 So the IC IG report comes out this week. I mean right...right.

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at October 20, 2019 01:27 PM (xkudx)

125 Proof that a Stratocaster makes everything better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPYDJVEPt4
Posted by: Abdul Costanza at October 20, 2019 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

Uhh....those are Telecasters.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 01:27 PM (X/Pw5)

126 Really meaty burritos?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:28 PM (PUmDY)

127 Any religion that condemns you to death if you leave it isn't for me.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 20, 2019 01:29 PM (w7KSn)

128 It was a lovely day until I spied that mug of the Sarsour dame. Ugh.

The Book Thread was lovely. Thank you, Oregon Muse.

Posted by: Flyover at October 20, 2019 01:29 PM (B5K06)

129 123 Were there any people that RVed or tent camped this year?
Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 01:27 PM (UUBmN)
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A few!
You're late by the way.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:29 PM (HBuMf)

130 A reminder that Islam is not the only threat.

"If we ask what they have done for us that we should have confidence in them, we realize that these people have lost every war they have waged since 1945. Accommodating themselves to our corrupt ruling class, they have been happy enough to wage endless no-win wars which have killed as many Americans as did World War I. The current military dictionary has no entry for 'victory.'"

Well, there's Grenada, and the half-won 1991 Kuwait clearance, and you could claim the Balkan thing that Wesley Clark got a reluctant Clinton to go for as a success...

I think I've said before that there are wars of necessity and wars of convenience, and wars of convenience must be fought for clearly defined goals, must be fought decisively, and the public will tolerate them for about four years.

I've been proven wrong. Afghanistan was arguably a war of necessity, but nothing else that's gone since has been, and the fact that the country has not risen up in disgust over the whys, the wheres, and the whens of everything that's gone after is puzzling, and probably due to the lack of conscription.

Posted by: JEM at October 20, 2019 01:30 PM (8erNz)

131 9 Islam - religion of war, conquest, deception, slavery

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 12:19 PM (G546f)

Ya left out 'submission'.
Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 12:25 PM (X/Pw5)


...and death.

Posted by: Flyover at October 20, 2019 01:30 PM (B5K06)

132 >>Uhh....those are Telecasters.

You're right. Brain fart.

Posted by: Abdul Costanza at October 20, 2019 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

133 Weasel,
I know I'm late. I will be there next year, hell or high water. If you do a clinic again We'll be there for that too.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 01:34 PM (UUBmN)

134 The sooner Islam follows the Thuggee, the sooner we can start worrying about the Communists, again.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:34 PM (bEuc8)

135 Angelo Codevilla is one of the only people currently alive who had a long career in the IC without becoming a traitor. I wondered how it happened, and then I figured out he's 76... his dago genes make him look younger.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:35 PM (5aX2M)

136 >>those are Telecasters.


And vastly superior to the Stratocaster. No Fender growls like a Tele can.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:35 PM (bEuc8)

137 Hell hath no fury like a Huma scorned.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 01:35 PM (RuIsu)

138 That's some heavy shit, man!

Ya'll just don't know the difference between an extremist muslim and a moderate muslim.

Kill, kill, kill, - - kidnap, kidnap, kidnap, - rape, rape, rape, - enslave, enslave enslave!

Posted by: Fritz at October 20, 2019 01:37 PM (kLDv+)

139 Sarsour is one lying woman, keep a watch on her and you see what a pack of lies Islam is to non Muslims.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 01:37 PM (ZCEU2)

140 And vastly superior to the Stratocaster. No Fender growls like a Tele can.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:35 PM (bEuc

Also, hard to get that "tele twang" from anything else.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 01:37 PM (X/Pw5)

141 The Bible is pretty clear on the Arabic problem in the world that led to Islam and today:

And the angel of the Lord said to her, "Behold, you are pregnant and shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, because the Lord has listened to your affliction.

He shall be a wild donkey of a man, his hand against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen."
Genesis 16:11-12

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 01:39 PM (KZzsI)

142 Teles and Jazzmasters. Those are my fav Fenders.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:39 PM (bEuc8)

143 ...and the Robben Ford sig. That's a beast of a guitar model.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:40 PM (bEuc8)

144 133 Weasel,
I know I'm late. I will be there next year, hell or high water. If you do a clinic again We'll be there for that too.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 20, 2019 01:34 PM (UUBmN)
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Deal! Missed you.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 01:40 PM (HBuMf)

145 there are ignorant (of their own religion and religious heritage) Muslims AND Christians. Many of these people move toward ??? secularism and hedonism. This new godless religion is rooted in ?? nothing, or perhaps in paganism ... if it feels good do it.

imo "Man" inherently knows good from evil, on a basic level. But the constraints of governments for instance, need to be rooted in something higher ... a recognition of man's liberty coming from God, for instance.


The AOC version ... Government is God ... if elected, she will force all to bend the knee. (for the greater "good", as defined by her, rooted in her feelings of the moment, but really from her commie handlers).


"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"? (Janis Joplin) No, I think freedom comes from fighting for our heritage, and being willing to walk away from corrupt comforts. (founders risked their life/fortunes to maintain/acquire liberty, they DID have something to lose)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Cus5s)

146 For those in love with Tulsi Gabbard there is a pic with her with Pantifa

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 01:41 PM (BqBId)

147 Garrett remaster of Arthur releases this week with extra Dave songs for a solo album from then that never happened

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:42 PM (PUmDY)

148 Teles and Jazzmasters. Those are my fav Fenders.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:39 PM (bEuc

I've got 4 Teles, all config. different....std... strat... 2xhumbucker...2x p90s.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 01:43 PM (X/Pw5)

149 The truth is, this is why they always spit out that lame "motivation unknown" line when some Muslim yelling ALLAHU AKBAR!! blows up a crowd or drives a van into an event or knives people or whatever.

Because "Islam" is considered a neutral force, a world religion, no different than Shintoism or Amish or Ba'Hai. Its just a faith, its not inherently problematic. So they presume that it must be something else that drove this person to yell religious phrases and do terrible things.

And no matter how many times the actual murderer makes it abundantly clear that they did it because of Islam, the authorities reject it: they must be crazy, or troubled, something is making them say this, but we can't figure out what it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

150
But.. but... The Inquisition!!-!

(BTW, almost everything you learned about the Inquisition is flat out wrong)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 01:44 PM (7rVsF)

151 For those in love with Tulsi Gabbard there is a pic with her with Pantifa
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 01:41 PM (BqBId)

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Tulsi is a leftist witch.

I also wrote her a sycophantic letter to her this morning asking - nay, BEGGING! - her to run 3rd-party for the good of the country and the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:44 PM (5aX2M)

152 Kill, kill, kill, - - kidnap, kidnap, kidnap, - rape, rape, rape, - enslave, enslave enslave!

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You said rape thrice.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)

153 >>I've got 4 Teles, all config. different....std... strat... 2xhumbucker...2x p90s.


Nice. Versatile lineup.

I have the cleanest 52 on the planet, right now.

... and a few One-Off Custom Shop Elites. My fav being a Nitro finished Maple Capped Japanese C-Shop with a Hum in the Neck (Kinman) and a Tele Bridge (Kinman). It is just a monster of a tele.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:46 PM (bEuc8)

154 " something is making them say this, but we can't figure out what it is."



Truly a mystery for the ages.

If only we had some written reference which might define and explain the positions that these folk take.

Perhaps a document explaining their doctrine.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 01:46 PM (cqNba)

155 Nice.

Kinks, ftw.

You can keep the Beatles and the Stones as far as I am concerned. Give me more Kinks!

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:46 PM (bEuc8)

156 The Dario Argento witch movies were very good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 01:46 PM (PUmDY)

157 He shall be a wild donkey of a man

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Hee haw! Hee haw! Is lam! Is lam!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 01:47 PM (+y/Ru)

158 Yeah Tulsi is a tax and spend leftist, she's all in for abortion, reparations, medicare for all, college debt "forgiveness" and every other hot button leftist thing except the most recent lunacy. She's just like 10 years behind the others in "progress"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 01:47 PM (KZzsI)

159 Bill Kirchen and Junior Brown for lunchtunes.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 01:48 PM (RuIsu)

160 Never trust a Muslim.
Can never be sure.

Deport them all.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 20, 2019 01:48 PM (QMwOT)

161 I am rocking a Comp from Wand Records, this morning. Great deep soul cuts.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:48 PM (bEuc8)

162 Not sure if I enjoy pointing this out or if I feel like an annoying pedantic dick (or maybe that's what I enjoy), but the "Who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?" is a line from Chico, not Groucho, in "Duck Soup."
Oh, and "Haxon" is an ahead-of-it's-time silent film in a lot of ways, certainly worth seeing, especially in its depiction of witch-hunt hysteria.

Posted by: fescadi at October 20, 2019 01:49 PM (odMWV)

163 146
For those in love with Tulsi Gabbard there is a pic with her with Pantifa


?

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 01:51 PM (T6t7i)

164 Rangers are a dumpster fire right now. Young is one thing but this is just bad hockey.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

165 Tagiya is my middle name.

Posted by: Hillary Tagiya Clinton at October 20, 2019 01:52 PM (+y/Ru)

166 Because "Islam" is considered a neutral force, a world religion, no different than Shintoism or Amish or Ba'Hai. Its just a faith, its not inherently problematic.

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Do a terrorist attack and shout "Deus Vult," and watch how fast it's "problematic." They'll haul every Christian from coast to coast over the boards. Every major denomination's leadership will be forced to make groveling public apologies for the Christian faith in the media.

Islam is treated like it is, because unlike Shinto, the Amish, or Ba'Hai, it is adversarial to the United States and Western Civ.

If most Muslims were running around in MAGA hats, the Left would be shoving a budget through the House as we speak, and it would provide for shiny new rail sidings in Dearborn that connect directly to our new camps in the Dakotas.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 01:52 PM (5aX2M)

167
Happy the Astros won, delighted the Yankees lost.

Nothing against the Yankees players, who seem hard-working, professional and well-mannered. It's their obnoxious fans and the sycophantic media following them I want to suffer.

We had to mute the sound because Buck and Smoltz were talking Yankees, Yankees, Yankees all series. All the news stories today are Yankees, Yankees, Yankees. Hey guys, there was another team playing and they're pretty good, though not from New York.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 01:53 PM (7rVsF)

168 1. Never equate peace with with freedom.
Freedom is much. much, much greater than peace.

2. We are not the world's policeman.

3. Our immigration policy should be the toughest in the world. Why? Because everyone wants to come here and bring their shit with them. They fucked up their corner of the globe now they want to do it here. Heed Washington's warning: read his Farewell Address.


Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 20, 2019 01:53 PM (QMwOT)

169 "Any religion that condemns you to death if you leave it isn't for me"

Posted by: navybrat

good point ... look at the "walk away" thing with blacks against the left, and the left condemning them (as if they own them). Same for Luther leaving the Pope/Catholicism after attempts to admonish, the founders walking away from the king (war ensued) ...


The individual must be ready to walk away, even if he never has to. But Groups are very powerful thangs ... that become mafia like very easily. The OT and epistles are full of men of God trying to bring people back to God, away from various salacious groups, often without much success.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 01:54 PM (Cus5s)

170 one of the more, er, interesting moments when my son graduated from a small, but prestigious technical college, was when a young woman received her PhD in chemical engineering. She was decked out in a colorful niqab outfit.

My Spidey senses tingled a bit.

but, then I'm just a H8r.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 01:56 PM (x8Wzq)

171 Oh, and butt fuck the Libtards and Commies and SJW assholes with a pineapple sideways. Except Buttplug; make him beg for it then deport him to Iran.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 20, 2019 01:56 PM (QMwOT)

172 So Islam's Forever War will continue even if we quit fighting? Huh.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2019 01:56 PM (FhXTo)

173 everything i needed to know about Islime i was reminded of on 9/11

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (Kyj0g)

174 >>We had to mute the sound because Buck and Smoltz were talking Yankees, Yankees, Yankees all series. All the news stories today are Yankees, Yankees, Yankees. Hey guys, there was another team playing and they're pretty good, though not from New York.

It was sort of like that last week when the Jets beat Amercia's Team. The Cowboys also lost which really seemed to give he announcers a sad.

I'm not a fan but at least the Yankees are good. The Cowboys, not so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (ZLI7S)

175 After we are all dead, Islam's war is with the other Islam.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (RuIsu)

176 >>Rangers are a dumpster fire right now. Young is one thing but this is just bad hockey.


They should really trade Panarin back to the Hawks.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:59 PM (bEuc8)

177 "So Islam's Forever War will continue even if we quit fighting? Huh."


I believe the teachings would lead to...

First, you stop fighting.

Then you are offered three choices

[ ] Convert

[ ] Submit

[ ] Die.

Pretty simple, actually.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 01:59 PM (cqNba)

178 Word to the wise: don't ever travel with me. You will find your flights delayed or cancelled and your connections will be missed.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 01:59 PM (8g9Ji)

179 After we are all dead, Islam's war is with the other Islam.
Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (RuIsu)

They are the serpent that consumes its own tail.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 02:00 PM (x8Wzq)

180 My Spidey senses tingled a bit.

but, then I'm just a H8r.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 01:56 PM (x8Wzq)

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My "spidey sense" goes full on "Physical Removal" when I see those verkakte shmatas.

That shit has no place here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:00 PM (5aX2M)

181 >>Then you are offered three choices

[ ] Convert

[ ] Submit

[ ] Die.



...but, Mostly 'C'.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:00 PM (bEuc8)

182 >>They should really trade Panarin back to the Hawks.

The Rangers sure as hell aren't taking advantage of him.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 02:01 PM (ZLI7S)

183 Samuel Bar is out of date. militant Islam jumped the shark with ISIS. I don't think Islam today is where it was in 2004.

in North Africa especially the Ennahda party keeps losing seats in Tunisia's parliament and Tunisia is 45% nonreligious now. terrorists scaring off the tourists will do that. Libya is a third nonreligious and Algeria a quarter.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 02:02 PM (5I0ZI)

184 My math says the Islam cannot feed itself for long. It cannot produce enough of the food-energy matrix to keep going. Without slaves, that is.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:03 PM (RuIsu)

185 It's weird seeing Pavelski in a Stars Uniform.

How do you trade THAT guy?

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:03 PM (bEuc8)

186
All those atheist progs who fervently defend Islam will either die, screaming "What for?" or become the most ferocious imams. My bet is on the latter.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:03 PM (7rVsF)

187 islime is not the problem.... moose slimes are.


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 02:04 PM (Kyj0g)

188 My math says the Islam cannot feed itself for long. It cannot produce enough of the food-energy matrix to keep going. Without slaves, that is.
Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:03 PM (RuIsu)

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A whole lot of US/EU foreign policy is centered around feeding, housing and arming them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:04 PM (5aX2M)

189 I blame Trump.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 20, 2019 02:05 PM (jYnPD)

190
For those in love with Tulsi Gabbard there is a pic with her with Pantifa

In panties with Sasha Grey?

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2019 02:05 PM (B7KlG)

191 "Then you are offered three choices



[ ] Convert



[ ] Submit



[ ] Die.



Pretty simple, actually.


Posted by: Village Idiot's"


At least that is one more choice than the left is offering conservatives.

Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2019 02:06 PM (MxEKc)

192 klaftern- I think you would be wrong about that., many places like here and Europe its just starting with the prize way ahead.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 02:06 PM (ZCEU2)

193 Since DC and NY are HQs for the overthrow of America, I'm glas it is not those two in the series. Nationals have never won, so that might be OK, except it would make too many corrupt politicians happy. Astros have won once. I'm a Cardinal fan (to the extent I care at all) ... I grew up with them winning frequently ..

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 02:06 PM (Cus5s)

194 My "spidey sense" goes full on "Physical Removal" when I see those verkakte shmatas.

That shit has no place here.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:00 PM (5aX2M)

I also find it odd that I only started seeing muzzies in my city AFTER 9-11. We even have a mosque now, which just super.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 02:06 PM (x8Wzq)

195 183 If you have a virulent fraction of radicals in a Muslim country, you have a problem period. That problem becomes severe when circa 10-15% of these populations are either involved or support materially or intellectually the fringe. Places like Lebanon and Iran used to be non-secular as examples.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 20, 2019 02:07 PM (xceTB)

196 It all fits into my T.O.E., which must remain unspoken.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:07 PM (RuIsu)

197 For those in love with Tulsi Gabbard there is a pic with her with Pantifa

In panties with Sasha Grey?
*******
Antifa obviously

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 02:07 PM (BqBId)

198 Lots of Jawas running around Missoula.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:07 PM (bEuc8)

199 A whole lot of US/EU foreign policy is centered around feeding, housing and arming them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:04 PM (5aX2M)

Until the oil runs out, or we don't need it anymore.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2019 02:07 PM (B7KlG)

200 Have 3 hours before my flight. Anything up?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2019 02:08 PM (QmbFX)

201 When the oil runs , we DO NOT NEED THEM

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2019 02:09 PM (QmbFX)

202 Word to the wise: don't ever travel with me. You will find your flights delayed or cancelled and your connections will be missed.
Posted by: Ladyl

Stay safe Ladyl !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 02:10 PM (arJlL)

203 "A whole lot of US/EU foreign policy is centered around feeding, housing and arming them."Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


with the ends being, keeping them from invading us? or keep them fighting each other, over there?


The part where they insist on importing them, that seems more like a globalist goal of overcoming the nation states and moving toward that new world order ... domestic and foreign chaos, as "they" centralize control inside "DeepState"? idk ... why such effort on open borders?

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 02:11 PM (Cus5s)

204 Its when Islam is the dominant force it becomes the award winner. As Robert Spencer's book shows if anything once it is the overwhelming majority it loses its reward and the population has tobekept in line by a strong arm like in Iran.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)

205 Garrett, Fav kinks album?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:12 PM (PUmDY)

206 John Esposito, Professor of Credulous Beliefs, founded the Georgetown-based center on Dhimitude. I have always wondered what Bernard Lewis thought of this idiot.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 02:12 PM (NVYyb)

207
20 years ago what happened in MENA was vitally important to the US. Now? Not much at all.

"They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:12 PM (7rVsF)

208 I'd like to point out that religious freedom allows me to lie under oath if I'm a Muslim, which I'm totally not.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 20, 2019 02:12 PM (g0Lfb)

209 Happy the Astros won, delighted the Yankees lost.

Nothing against the Yankees players, who seem hard-working, professional and well-mannered. It's their obnoxious fans and the sycophantic media following them I want to suffer.

We had to mute the sound because Buck and Smoltz were talking Yankees, Yankees, Yankees all series. All the news stories today are Yankees, Yankees, Yankees. Hey guys, there was another team playing and they're pretty good, though not from New York.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 01:53 PM (7rVsF)

Kind of a myth that Yankees fans are more obnoxious than fans of other teams. Ever been to Philly? Or Boston?
And at least Yankee fans don't resort to obnoxious towel-waving.
Yankee Stadium is probably the best-policed stadium of all. They don't put up with any nonsense at all.

And I agree that Smotz and in particular Joe Buck--suck, but it's interesting because all Yankee fans heard was "Altuve! Altuve! Cole! Verlander!!" and how great Houston is from them all series long.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:13 PM (NFEMn)

210 Bernard Lewis despised Edward Said as I recall.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 02:14 PM (03ZXJ)

211 "I'd like to point out that religious freedom allows me to lie under oath if I'm a Muslim..."

Correction:
Your Muslim faith REQUIRES that you lie and otherwise deceive the Infidel, at all times. Not "allows".

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 20, 2019 02:14 PM (w7KSn)

212 When the oil runs , we DO NOT NEED THEM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2019 02:09 PM (QmbFX)

------

It hasn't run out, but the disposition of the US energy sector means we no longer need to treat them differently than anyone else. We are past dependence on ME oil.

That we continue to aid and abet Muslim countries is a function of our surplus - our surplus of domestic enemies.

Trump is trying to change this, but it's a tough row to hoe.

Any Muslim country that isn't actively serving American interests needs to be frozen out. We can finally afford the economic consequences of dismissive foreign policy in the Islamic world.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:15 PM (5aX2M)

213 oh great, that stupid new Terminator trailer is up.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 02:15 PM (03ZXJ)

214 Drudge is super excited that Romney will vote to convict on impeachment.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (w9bLq)

215 It was sort of like that last week when the Jets beat Amercia's Team. The Cowboys also lost which really seemed to give he announcers a sad.

I'm not a fan but at least the Yankees are good. The Cowboys, not so much.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (ZLI7S)

I noticed that last week. The NFL loves the Cowboys.
They always show Jerrah celebrating up in his box.
And also, it's always an ex-Cowboy in the booth--last week was Tony Romo. Other times it's Aikman or Moose Johnson. When Whitten finally retires, he'll be there too.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (NFEMn)

216 School Boys in Disgrace

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (Kyj0g)

217 I suppose if you think about it, there is a general human temptation to deceive, and Islam is not necessarily the source, but it is one of the manifestations. Leftism is another manifestation.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (i/wJA)

218
One exception: Brett Gardner always whines at the ump after he's called out on strikes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (7rVsF)

219 Blessed by your enemies


MILF Tulsi rises in Iowa after Cankle attack

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (rpxSz)

220 Skip @ 204- Agree on Robert Spencer he's a modern-day oracle on islam. Just like Glenn Beck on the leftist/progs/commies, he has a lot to offer in the way of enlightenment and education of America on the danger posed by our enemies

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (UUkQp)

221 New Nike shoe.

https://bit.ly/2o0RzKQ

Posted by: Hillary Tagiya Clinton at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (+y/Ru)

222 Kinks/Kinda/Kontroversy

and

Muswell Hillbillies

They get the most spins, here.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:18 PM (bEuc8)

223 Drudge is super excited that Romney will vote to convict on impeachment.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (w9bLq)

Romney has already announced that?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:18 PM (NFEMn)

224 178 Word to the wise: don't ever travel with me. You will find your flights delayed or cancelled and your connections will be missed.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 01:59 PM (8g9Ji)
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Hi Ladyl!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 02:18 PM (HBuMf)

225 >>oh great, that stupid new Terminator trailer is up.


Saw that. Sarah Conner looks like a lesbian Prune.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:19 PM (bEuc8)

226 One exception: Brett Gardner always whines at the ump after he's called out on strikes.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (7rVsF)

Which is why they always call balls strikes on him.
It's a cycle.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:19 PM (NFEMn)

227 214 Drudge is super excited that Romney will vote to convict on impeachment.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (w9bLq)

I fucking hope so

will sign his own political death warrant

best news I've heard in the last five minutes

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:19 PM (rpxSz)

228 Elijah Cummings is still dead.

Not that you'd know it. You call that a Funeral?

Posted by: John McCain's Ghost at October 20, 2019 02:20 PM (bEuc8)

229 Impeachment conviction? Lady Clinton Dunsimae?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:21 PM (QF1yA)

230 Correction:
Your Muslim faith REQUIRES that you lie and otherwise deceive the Infidel, at all times. Not "allows".
Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 20, 2019 02:14

I was never deceived by the JEF or any of his cronies.

Posted by: Infidel at October 20, 2019 02:21 PM (m+0jM)

231 I read an article recently about Missoula and how proud they were to welcome refugees. Missoula is 100k people. Wont take many muzzies to turn the city into a shithole.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:21 PM (w9bLq)

232 Bad lip reading, Biden edition. Not as good as some of the old ones, but still worth a look.

https://tinyurl.com/y3cdh9uh

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 02:21 PM (T6t7i)

233 I also find it odd that I only started seeing muzzies in my city AFTER 9-11. We even have a mosque now, which just super.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 20, 2019 02:06 PM (x8Wzq)


That's conquest of the West. Planting a flag. Claiming in the name of allah.

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (i/wJA)

234 Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 20, 2019 01:56 PM (QMwOT)

---
do you have a newsletter?

if so, how does one subscribe to it?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (Kyj0g)

235 One exception: Brett Gardner always whines at the ump after he's called out on strikes.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:17 PM (7rVsF)


He had reason to last night. Usually umpires will give a ball diameter on one side, or on the other, but not both. Gardner got hosed in that AB. The second strike was clearly inside, the third strike was clearly outside.

We had an umpire in my rec league who was a very nice guy, but we used to joke that he would ring you up on a brushback pitch, or on a pitchout. As long as the ball was over either batter's box, that was a strike.

But it's fair to expect better from an MLB umpire.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (YqDXo)

236 Saw that. Sarah Conner looks like a lesbian Prune.
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:19 PM (bEuc


she always looked like Jillian Michaels smush

wuts the diff ??

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (rpxSz)

237 >>Drudge is super excited that Romney will vote to convict on impeachment.


Based on NO Evidence.

Mitt has always been a man of principles. Deep principles.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (bEuc8)

238 For starters: no more Islamic immigration, period. Majority Muslim country? Sorry. No room at the inn, Fatima. Go sleep in the European manger.

If you're not obsequiously submissive, while brutally repressing your anti-American elements? Sorry. Embargo!

And don't even ask about USAID or arms deals until you get past proviso #2. Don't care how hungry you are, or the danger you're in, because... guess what?! You don't fucking matter.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (5aX2M)

239 Mittens cant announce it yet since technically he will hear evidence and all that before making a decision. But he is basically saying Trump is a criminal. Draw your conclusions on how he votes....

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:23 PM (w9bLq)

240 Which is why they always call balls strikes on him.
It's a cycle.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:19 PM (NFEMn)


Time to get new umpires. It's unprofessional to conduct personal vendettas as an umpire.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

241 Andy Ngo at Hillary's speaking tour.

https://youtu.be/GDlVml5VAH4

She brought Chelsea. Andy Ngo spent an hour watching her, because he sacrifices for you, the people.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (LxTcq)

242 It is sad that I used to believe Mitt was honest

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (PUmDY)

243 228 Elijah Cummings is still dead.

Not that you'd know it. You call that a Funeral?
Posted by: John McCain's Ghost at October 20, 2019 02:20 PM (bEuc

Elijah did lie in state

albeit in a dumpster

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (rpxSz)

244 238 For starters: no more Islamic immigration, period. Majority Muslim country? Sorry. No room at the inn, Fatima. Go sleep in the European manger.

If you're not obsequiously submissive, while brutally repressing your anti-American elements? Sorry. Embargo!

And don't even ask about USAID or arms deals until you get past proviso #2. Don't care how hungry you are, or the danger you're in, because... guess what?! You don't fucking matter.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:22 PM (5aX2M)


This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

245 >> I read an article recently about Missoula and how proud they were to welcome refugees.


Liberal cocksuckers, all. They could care less about the poor rural folk or the self destructive Native population.
Lord knows we have enough of both.
They want a National Stage upon which to Signal their Virue.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (bEuc8)

246 You can keep the Beatles and the Stones as far as I am concerned. Give me more Kinks!
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 01:46 PM


"The Beat Goes On" and "Switch Into Glide" were awesome

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (r6GXX)

247 If Charles Dickens wrote The Lord of the Rings.

https://bit.ly/33WZYP1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 02:25 PM (+y/Ru)

248 242 It is sad that I used to believe Mitt was honest
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:24 PM (PUmDY)

how about bridges ??

ya got a use for a nice bridge ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:25 PM (rpxSz)

249 So did Cummings have a top notch sign language guy for his funeralization?

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:25 PM (UUkQp)

250 >> It is sad that I used to believe Mitt was honest


He Honestly believes he's entitled to lead.

He is Al Gore in magic underwear.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:26 PM (bEuc8)

251 No place is safe anymore. Even small towns and cities in flyover states are getting populated with refugees. And it happens fast. One day there are none and the next 1/2 the city is non English speaking.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:26 PM (w9bLq)

252 249 So did Cummings have a top notch sign language guy for his funeralization?
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:25 PM (UUkQp)

gary coleman

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:27 PM (rpxSz)

253 >>Even small towns and cities in flyover states are getting populated with refugees. And it happens fast.


They just give them driver's licenses, homes, food and money and then turn them loose.

So many fucking 3rd world drivers these days.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:27 PM (bEuc8)

254 250 >> It is sad that I used to believe Mitt was honest


He Honestly believes he's entitled to lead.

He is Al Gore in magic underwear.
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:26 PM (bEuc

not even

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:28 PM (rpxSz)

255 170
one of the more, er, interesting moments when my son graduated from a
small, but prestigious technical college, was when a young woman
received her PhD in chemical engineering. She was decked out in a
colorful niqab outfit.



My Spidey senses tingled a bit.


I've been on the PhD defense committee for Muslim women in hijabs, and had no problem with it. For one thing, it's got to annoy the hell out of the Muslim men who think women are vessels for their lusts and nothing more.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 02:28 PM (T6t7i)

256 It is sad that I used to believe Mitt was honest


He Honestly believes he's entitled to lead.

He is Al Gore in magic underwear.
Posted by: garrett

The skidmarks are chocolate !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 02:29 PM (arJlL)

257 But guys...


I saved the Salt Lake City Olympics!

Posted by: Rhett Wombley at October 20, 2019 02:30 PM (bEuc8)

258 Cummings had Zombie Barbara Billingsley doing the translation.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:30 PM (RuIsu)

259 I've got Muswell spinning now.

Such great shit.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:30 PM (bEuc8)

260 Re 3rd World drivers

Nearly every Uber driver Ive had in the past year has been one. Doesnt matter where, big city, small city, east coast, west coast, north or south. no different than taking a taxi these days.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:31 PM (w9bLq)

261 258
Cummings had Zombie Barbara Billingsley doing the translation.

Posted by: klaftern


I heard him described on NPR as "eloquent". They are delusional.

Posted by: pep at October 20, 2019 02:32 PM (T6t7i)

262 (((Weasel)))

Posted by: Ladyl at October 20, 2019 02:32 PM (8g9Ji)

263 252 249 So did Cummings have a top notch sign language guy for his funeralization?
Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:25 PM (UUkQp)

gary coleman
Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 02:27 PM (rpxSz)

more like Garrett Morris.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zy0nd

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 02:32 PM (V2Yro)

264 Even small towns and cities in flyover states are getting populated with refugees. And it happens fast.


They just give them driver's licenses, homes, food and money and then turn them loose.

So many fucking 3rd world drivers these days.
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:27 PM (bEuc

Some day it will be revealed how this was done purposefully during the Obama reign.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

265 Garrett, God Bless the Kinks. They get left out because they conservative, imo

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:33 PM (PUmDY)

266 264

Did Obama try to hide this? It was out in the open that they wanted to dilute voting in red areas was it not?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:33 PM (w9bLq)

267 Numero nineteen-o way upthread called it: Chindia is our future.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 02:34 PM (XNkEi)

268 Happy the Astros won, delighted the Yankees lost.

Nothing against the Yankees players, who seem hard-working, professional and well-mannered. It's their obnoxious fans and the sycophantic media following them I want to suffer.

We had to mute the sound because Buck and Smoltz were talking Yankees, Yankees, Yankees all series. All the news stories today are Yankees, Yankees, Yankees. Hey guys, there was another team playing and they're pretty good, though not from New York.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 01:53 PM (7rVsF)

Kind of a myth that Yankees fans are more obnoxious than fans of other teams. Ever been to Philly? Or Boston?
And at least Yankee fans don't resort to obnoxious towel-waving.
Yankee Stadium is probably the best-policed stadium of all. They don't put up with any nonsense at all.

And I agree that Smotz and in particular Joe Buck--suck, but it's interesting because all Yankee fans heard was "Altuve! Altuve! Cole! Verlander!!" and how great Houston is from them all series long.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:13 PM (NFEMn)


I despise Fox broadcasts with the heat of a thousand suns. Didn't watch any of this, and only saw clips this morning.

That being said, the look on Chapman's face was precious to me... except I was wondering if the thought bubble above his head was something like "crap, now I'm going to have to beat up some bitch."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:34 PM (hku12)

269 >>Some day it will be revealed how this was done purposefully during the Obama reign.


Libya was 100% about Refugees.

Same with the Central American Policy.

The UN / Globalist Cabal wants to flood the 1st word with the dregs of the 3rd world.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:35 PM (bEuc8)

270 Sittin' on the tarmac at Love Field. Flight delayed bigly. Ladyl is on here somewhere.

First MoMe for the D'oh Fam, and it was better than we ever imagined.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:35 PM (QMuDZ)

271 Hey, Eromero. What breed of dog was that you sent to MisHum? It was posted in yesterday's Pet Thread.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 02:36 PM (Dhht7)

272 Drudge is super excited that Romney will vote to convict on impeachment.


Based on NO Evidence.

-
Evidence? We ain't got no evidence. We don't need no evidence. I don't have to show you any stinking evidence!

Posted by: Erasure of the Sixteen Elections at October 20, 2019 02:36 PM (+y/Ru)

273 I learned everything I need to know about Islam and Muslims on 9/11.

Posted by: Regular joe at October 20, 2019 02:36 PM (6/uwW)

274 John Smoltz needs to take EFL, English as a first language.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

275

Nothin' wrong with Dallas a new head coach, offensive and defensive coaches can't cure.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2019 02:37 PM (KATBx)

276 Or at least libertarion

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:37 PM (PUmDY)

277 Saw a couple of the sunday shows, and it astounds me that the Uniparty is still so "outraged" at Trump's efforts to end the fighting in Syria. Now it's worked, fighting is ending without huge atrocities and without Iraqi Kurdistan being touched, and without a single American life being lost. Not to mention that the American people support us getting out of there, because they never wanted us in there.

and yet still the Uniparty is going on and on about what a horrible, terrible thing Trump has done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 02:37 PM (V2Yro)

278 270 Sittin' on the tarmac at Love Field. Flight delayed bigly. Ladyl is on here somewhere.

First MoMe for the D'oh Fam, and it was better than we ever imagined.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:35 PM (QMuDZ)
-------
Hi Jane D'oh!! Is was so great meeting you all!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 02:37 PM (HBuMf)

279 Weasel, you are amazing! D'oh Boy is sitting next to me attempting his first post.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:38 PM (QMuDZ)

280 9-11 was an inside job orchestrated but cheney and the Joos. Everyone knows that. Muslims in NJ cheering as the buildings collapsed was purely coincidental.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2019 02:38 PM (w9bLq)

281 >>Or at least libertarion


They also never got too full of themselves. In public or in the Studio. They always had a great ability to edit their material to keep shit from getting ridiculous.

Nobody ever told McCartney or Lennon 'No'.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:39 PM (bEuc8)

282 Also, US embargoes on hostile Muslim countries have the downside of increased (though no longer crippling) oil prices for American consumers.

But there's a follow on domestic benefit, too.

There's only one US State that's still dependent on foreign-flagged oil.

And that state is CA, as they have by-and-large embargoed US oil and gas.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:39 PM (5aX2M)

283 D'oh Boy looks like he's typing a novel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:39 PM (QMuDZ)

284 Saw a couple of the sunday shows, and it astounds me that the Uniparty is still so "outraged" at Trump's efforts to [insert anything here].

and yet still the Uniparty is going on and on about what a horrible, terrible thing Trump has done.

Posted by: Tom Servo
________

Made your post evergreen.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (NH9pa)

285 The Indians are historically inimical to I-slam, and the Chi-coms are persecuting them. But I could see Chi-coms allying with islam agitators such as CAIR to destabilize the U.S.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (XNkEi)

286 The NeverTrumpers are driven by their delusion that when Trump is out of the way--no matter how--things will go back to exactly the way they used to be. As though this is a cheap plot twist in a shitty TV series and tomorrow their going to wake up and it was just a bad dream.

Mitt REALLY believes he can be president with Trump out of the way.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (NFEMn)

287 John Smoltz needs to take EFL, English as a first language.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:36 PM (YqDXo)


Smoltz seems like a decent guy. I don't doubt it's hard for him to do broadcasts on Fox. Basically, nothing that comes out of their mouths is not dictated to them by the voices in their ears.

Buck is smoother at doing this than the analysts tend to be, and if Smoltz has a hard time with it (I haven't heard him do a game), I don't think that reflects badly on him.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (hku12)

288 >>and yet still the Uniparty is going on and on about what a horrible, terrible thing Trump has done.


He removed a lever the UniParty had on foreign policy.

Everyone and everything is a tool to them. Take one away and they bawl like children in a checkout line.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (bEuc8)

289 Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:38 PM (QMuDZ)
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Aw, shucks.
D'oh Boy haz skillz!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (HBuMf)

290 For 5 years plus I worked with a Catholic refugee from Iraq. And another from Kenya. Both educated people. I love source material over filtered propaganda.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:41 PM (RuIsu)

291 BREAKING: Thomas D'Alesandro III, a former Baltimore mayor and the brother of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, has died - CNN

Baltimore?!

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:41 PM (CE5C/)

292 Saw Ray right after the Crash, played several Low Budget songs.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:42 PM (PUmDY)

293 Since Weasel was at the MoMe, does that mean no gub thread today?

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 02:42 PM (i/wJA)

294 Not So Obvious, A Totally Accurate History of Hong Kong

https://youtu.be/0LL7rHy2PJg

British absurdity

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2019 02:42 PM (LxTcq)

295 D'oh Boy looks like he's typing a novel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:39

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Better tell him to hurry up or he's going to get willowed.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 02:42 PM (Dhht7)

296 olddog @ 271- That dog is a kangaroo, soft as a baby rabbit. Damn things get to be 6 feet tall but cute when little. Heh.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:43 PM (UUkQp)

297 Saw a couple of the sunday shows, and it astounds me that the Uniparty is still so "outraged" at Trump's efforts to end the fighting in Syria. Now it's worked, fighting is ending without huge atrocities and without Iraqi Kurdistan being touched, and without a single American life being lost. Not to mention that the American people support us getting out of there, because they never wanted us in there.

and yet still the Uniparty is going on and on about what a horrible, terrible thing Trump has done.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 02:37 PM (V2Yro)


The military industrial complex is real, and there are real politicians dedicated to keeping the money flowing.

Trump's gotta go. These people can't stand the thought of perpetual war coming to an end.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:43 PM (hku12)

298 ...oh. He was 90 years old. Ninety years is a good run.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:43 PM (OiC69)

299 THE PEOPLE IN GREY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaY-YQpy5U

Posted by: KINKS at October 20, 2019 02:43 PM (bEuc8)

300 293 Since Weasel was at the MoMe, does that mean no gub thread today?
Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 02:42 PM (i/wJA)
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No worries. It'll be a little lite on content but will go up at the regular time tonite. I'm about to land in DC now.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 02:44 PM (HBuMf)

301 Pixy just kicked son's first post out and I don't knew why.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 20, 2019 02:44 PM (QMuDZ)

302 D'oh Boy looks like he's typing a novel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh


Make sure he knows to compose it in Word, and then he can just copy and paste it.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:44 PM (OiC69)

303 Joe F: Sorry but Yankee fans have achieved the impossible: they make the Philly fanbase seem civilized.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 02:44 PM (XNkEi)

304 >>Pixy just kicked son's first post out and I don't knew why.


That's just Pixy's way of saying 'Welcome'.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:45 PM (bEuc8)

305 >>Pixy just kicked son's first post out and I don't knew why.


Tell him to turn on Smart Punctuation.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:45 PM (bEuc8)

306
Baltimore?!
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:41 PM (CE5C/)


Tom D'Alesandro, Jr., Nancy's corrupt dad, was Baltimore mayor from 1947-1959. Tom III was mayor of Baltimore between 1967 and 1971.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:45 PM (7rVsF)

307 ...oh. He was 90 years old. Ninety years is a good run.
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:43 PM (OiC69)


Only the good die young.

That being said, I hope Nanzi is hearing the hooves coming for her... soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:46 PM (hku12)

308 So many fucking 3rd world drivers these days.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:27 PM (bEuc

*******

So much so this! The DC beltway is lousy with refugees/ foriegners who have no business behind the wheel. I rage when having to deal with these fools

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 20, 2019 02:46 PM (flINI)

309
Make sure he knows to compose it in Word, and then he can just copy and paste it.
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:44 PM (OiC69)
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Reposting the entire thread thru cut and paste fail makes a great first impression.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2019 02:47 PM (HBuMf)

310 Sorry but Yankee fans have achieved the impossible: they make the Philly fanbase seem civilized.
Posted by: kallisto

Santa Claus may beg to differ !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 02:47 PM (arJlL)

311 Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 02:41 PM (RuIsu)

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I love African/ME Christians. Every one I've met is a fine American. Every. Single. One.

If I could trade every Muslim fake "refugee" for them tomorrow, the deal would be done by close of business today.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:47 PM (5aX2M)

312 Jane if he's using iPhone he needs to turn off "Smart Punctuation" in Settings>General>Keyboard.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 20, 2019 02:48 PM (Dhht7)

313 The Kinks finest tune is Big Sky -- it's about God's indifference to the plight of man.

Posted by: Regular joe at October 20, 2019 02:48 PM (6/uwW)

314 I love African/ME Christians. Every one I've met is a fine American. Every. Single. One.

If I could trade every Muslim fake "refugee" for them tomorrow, the deal would be done by close of business today.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:47 PM (5aX2M)


Eons ago, I knew an Egyptian doc who was a Christian. I once rather innocently asked him when his church "broke off" from the Catholic Church.

He corrected me: We didn't "break off" from the Catholic Church, they broke off FROM US!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:50 PM (hku12)

315 Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2019 02:50 PM (i/wJA)

316 Smoltz seems like a decent guy. I don't doubt it's hard for him to do broadcasts on Fox. Basically, nothing that comes out of their mouths is not dictated to them by the voices in their ears.

Buck is smoother at doing this than the analysts tend to be, and if Smoltz has a hard time with it (I haven't heard him do a game), I don't think that reflects badly on him.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (hku12)/i]

Smoltz does seem like a nice guy, but he mangles the English language something fierce. He'd be better off if he DID have someone telling him what to say, because what he does say is idiotic half the time, and agrammatical and/or non-colloquial the other half.

I collected a number of his bon mots:

"The key to the game is the Yankees scoring more runs!"

"You've got to be prepared to have an opportunity for a game plan."

"You never want a hitter to feel like you've taken away a pitch from him."

"He did strand the bases loaded."

"Watching the Yankees take BP is humiliating for a pitcher."

"Cole's ERA in the first inning is higher, but that's nothing the Yankees can be proud of."

WTF??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

317 Village Green Preservation Society is a very great album.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:52 PM (PUmDY)

318
I love African/ME Christians. Every one I've met is a fine American. Every. Single. One.

Their ministers and priests are more Orthodox than our home-grown weenies too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:52 PM (7rVsF)

319 >>The Kinks finest tune is :


I'm Not Like Everybody Else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmb7TU0OrOI

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:53 PM (bEuc8)

320 TXMoMe was incredible! Lots of great food, and wonderful people. Ben Had and crew continues to raise the bar every year!

Sadly, apparently garrett has sussed out that all the attendees are Russian Bots. We do, however, foresee a bright future for him on the Hillary! 2020! "It's MY turn, dammit!" campaign.

Posted by: Comrade Duncanthraxbot at October 20, 2019 02:53 PM (DMUuz)

321 >>Village Green Preservation Society is a very great album.


I have the new Deluxe Box sitting in the 'Up Next' pile.

It's a big ass pile, though.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 02:54 PM (bEuc8)

322
Dizzy Dean >>>> John Smoltz

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2019 02:54 PM (7rVsF)

323 This Time Tomorrow.. they have so many

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 02:54 PM (PUmDY)

324 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:50 PM (hku12)

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AFAIK, the Copts are the oldest extant Church.

They've also been nearly fully murderized by modern Islam.

Case in point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 02:55 PM (5aX2M)

325 Their ministers and priests are more Orthodox than our home-grown weenies too.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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Cardinal Robert Sarah for Pope!, ur nevermind.

Not quite yet.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 02:56 PM (Y4EXg)

326 Yudishthira's Dice @ 311- We have several African and M/Easterners in our Presbyterian church. Good people. I agree with you on this one.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2019 02:57 PM (UUkQp)

327 TXMoMe was incredible! Lots of great food, and wonderful people. Ben Had and crew continues to raise the bar every year!

Do you guys remain known by your nics at these things? I'm just kind of wondering how Masturbatin' Pete handles these situations.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:57 PM (OiC69)

328 my friend told me Trump signed an EO making it easier for worldwide Christian refugees to seek asylum in US, don't know if it's true

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2019 02:57 PM (XNkEi)

329 Has there ever been an article easier to SKIP than, "Felicity Huffman Discusses Her 2 Weeks In Prison."

So did she come out with clipped hair, prison tats, cigarette voice and a sexual preference for hard women?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 02:58 PM (lD3vL)

330 Do you guys remain known by your nics at these things? I'm just kind of wondering how Masturbatin' Pete handles these situations.
Posted by: t-bird

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Only the brave shake his hand. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 02:58 PM (Y4EXg)

331 "5 years plus I worked with a Catholic refugee from
Iraq. And another from Kenya. Both educated people. I love source
material over filtered propaganda."Posted by: klaftern

on a case by case basis, importing Christians makes much more sense, especially if they have "sponsors" to help them become American.


The downside is we pull these good people from their homelands, where one could help they would do outreach, either Christian or in liberty minded political views. I'd like to see Christian outreach continue to reach out into other cultures, go forth into all the lands. We don't need to consolidate all Christians here, as useful as that might be for us ...


Bush Doctrine was to spread "democracy", to the extent we are still thinking globally, I see more virtue in spreading Christianity to strengthen other nation states in sovereign liberties ... and we could build bridges with them with favored trade status (instead of the commies or other enemies).

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 02:58 PM (Cus5s)

332 Listening to sports commentators during a game is the equivalent of 3 hours of color commentary from a 3- or 4-year-old about what the dogs are doing in the backyard. I'm watching the game. Having someone describe what I'm watching simultaneously . . . it'd be great, if I were retarded.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2019 02:58 PM (H5knJ)

333 Do you guys remain known by your nics at these things? I'm just kind of wondering how Masturbatin' Pete handles these situations.

Lets put it this way, he doesn't need a name tag for identification.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 02:59 PM (lD3vL)

334 >>it'd be great,


...if I was fucking her.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:00 PM (bEuc8)

335 64
If you want to engender anti-Islsmic feelings among teenagers, remind them who invented algebra.
_____________

Teenagers have something against ancient Babylonians?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 03:00 PM (k4dH2)

336 Visualize Felicity Huffman makin' littluns out of bigguns in the red hot Texas sun.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 03:00 PM (RuIsu)

337 >>Only the brave shake his hand. LOL


He never has a free hand for shaking.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:00 PM (bEuc8)

338 Strangers is fantastic.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 03:03 PM (PUmDY)

339 Listening to sports commentators during a game is the equivalent of 3 hours of color commentary from a 3- or 4-year-old about what the dogs are doing in the backyard. I'm watching the game. Having someone describe what I'm watching simultaneously . . . it'd be great, if I were retarded.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2019 02:58 PM (H5knJ)


One nice thing on MLB.TV is that at least some of the time you can choose just the game sounds audio track. Useful for when Jessica Mendoza is giving MLB players tips on how to play the game she never played.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 03:03 PM (YqDXo)

340
The downside is we pull these good people from their homelands, where one could help they would do outreach, either Christian or in liberty minded political views.

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I feel ya.

But, in North Africa/ME the battle is over, and the cult has won... people like Copts and Yazidis are simply prey now.

They can die there or contribute here.

Lebanon could be retrievable. Kenya is more hopeful.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:03 PM (5aX2M)

341 Do you guys remain known by your nics at these things? I'm just kind of wondering how Masturbatin' Pete handles these situations.
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 02:57 PM


When it comes to handling, Masturbatin' Pete is in a class of his own.

Posted by: Comrade Duncanthraxbot at October 20, 2019 03:05 PM (DMUuz)

342 337
>>Only the brave shake his hand. LOL





He never has a free hand for shaking.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:00 PM (bEuc

Ironically, if you are shaking his hand, you are still strangers.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 20, 2019 03:05 PM (jYnPD)

343 notice the Sauds don't take in refugees ... but they offer to build 300 mosques in Germany, to "help out". They are exporting Islam.


We (Christian based efforts perhaps, since government won't do it directly) need to export Christianity, and not import other religions that are not willing to accept our law. (since many "religions", especially Islam, put their religion above our law, in direct defiannce of our law ... Sharia, most notably). That should be a dis-qualifier.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 03:06 PM (Cus5s)

344 Meh, I might have gotten my urban dictionary slang mixed up.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 20, 2019 03:07 PM (jYnPD)

345 Sittin' on the tarmac at Love Field. Flight delayed bigly. Ladyl is on here somewhere.

It made my day to see the Doh family and Ladyl.

Safe travels !

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:08 PM (lD3vL)

346 >> might have gotten my urban dictionary slang mixed up.


It's all Dutch to him.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:09 PM (bEuc8)

347 Nood baseball.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 03:10 PM (ywNoU)

348 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 02:40 PM (hku12)/i]

Smoltz does seem like a nice guy, but he mangles the English language something fierce. He'd be better off if he DID have someone telling him what to say, because what he does say is idiotic half the time, and agrammatical and/or non-colloquial the other half.

I collected a number of his bon mots:

"The key to the game is the Yankees scoring more runs!"

"You've got to be prepared to have an opportunity for a game plan."

"You never want a hitter to feel like you've taken away a pitch from him."

"He did strand the bases loaded."

"Watching the Yankees take BP is humiliating for a pitcher."

"Cole's ERA in the first inning is higher, but that's nothing the Yankees can be proud of."

WTF??
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2019 02:52 PM (YqDXo)


That's my point. Somebody's shouting in his ear "TALK ABOUT COLE'S ERA IN THE FIRST INNING!!"

And he can't do that smoothly, because his brain doesn't work like a parrot, which is how guys like Buck can do it so well. They don't actually think. They just repeat.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 03:11 PM (hku12)

349 RE the TX MoMe, I'm at a loss of words to explain how much fun was had.

This has quit being a MoMe and is now a family reunion.

I have never met a finer group of people in my life.

RancherBob and CowHorseQueen, You make all of this possible. If was possible to type in something larger than all caps my Thank You still wouldn't be big enough.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 03:11 PM (7CZws)

350 Waterloo Sunset is brilliant as well

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 03:12 PM (PUmDY)

351 Yep.

Their catalog is loaded with gems. From all eras, too.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:13 PM (bEuc8)

352 illiniwek, 331 -"I see more virtue in spreading Christianity to strengthen other nation states in sovereign liberties..."

It would be good. A long-term project.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 20, 2019 03:13 PM (k3g2v)

353 Comfortably Smug
@ComfortablySmug
You might dismiss Hillary's comments about Tulsi as Hillary being a paranoid psychopath, but being a paranoid psychopath is why Hillary killed Epstein before he could snitch, and why Hillary has avoided prison all her life.

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 20, 2019 03:14 PM (BqBId)

354 I put emphasis on such teaching in the institutional church ... their teaching we are shameful sinners, and an emphasis on how we made Jesus suffer.

Agreed. That is so wrong.

The wages of sin is not "suffering" - it is "death". So when I see those "His Pain, Your Gain" or those trite "Every Time You Sin You Add To Christ's Suffering On The Cross" ignores the Death & Resurrection which is salvific, and actually puts a value on a sin as suffering not death.

Sort of like when some pastors translate the Greek word for sin to "missing the mark" as yet another way to diminish and trivialize sin.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:14 PM (lD3vL)

355 "But, in North Africa/ME the battle is over, and the cult has won... people like Copts and Yazidis are simply prey now.
They can die there or contribute here. Lebanon could be retrievable. Kenya is more hopeful." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

thanks, I know little of on the ground logistics and realities. I was thinking the Copts were getting better protection now, maybe not. Seems any deals we make with Sauds or Egyptians should require such protections. And we should move refugees to the nearest location that is safe, establish (offensive?) beachheads there. ... NOT be consolidating much more foreign cultures all the way back to the West. imo.


That would build the marginal areas like Lebanon and Kenya, and we could offer economic incentives in those regions, where the refugees could fit in more readily, maybe become landowners, not servant class.


But maybe that is my UglyAmerican interventionist view, more than Christian/Democracy outreach view ... but if we are playing global helper/charity, that makes more sense than importing the world here. We are the superpower after all, world leader ... the ones under assault for Western values ... I say we should inoculate them all with our heritage and western ways.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (Cus5s)

356 Rangers are finishing strong.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:15 PM (bEuc8)

357 "I see more virtue in spreading Christianity to strengthen other nation states in sovereign liberties..."


The Doctrines of Grace dictate that it is the Godhead that determines salvation, aka "Election".

So who is a true Christian and who is nominal is outside of our control. I'll take a nominal Christian who is not overtly hostile to virtuous living over the secular who mock righteousness.

Yes, bring Christianity, the real, or the cargo cult version everywhere, society and culture will benefit.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 03:17 PM (lD3vL)

358 Christianity is a universalist faith and aside from the Vatican there is no "Christian State," like Jews have in Israel. Western Europe is gone to Islam, and will be a caliphate soon. I think the Eastern Europe and the US is the closest you've got these days. Eastern Europe is locked down because of the Islamic wave. So ingathering of persecuted Christians to here makes sense.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (5aX2M)

359 They lay me out

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 03:20 PM (QF1yA)

360 Sorry for the short fuze O/T

Former Baltimore Mayor, Tommy Delasandro has died.

Who dat?


Nancy Pelosi's father.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:21 PM (cqNba)

361 Former Baltimore Mayor, Tommy Delasandro has died.

Who dat?


Nancy Pelosi's father.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:21 PM (cqNba)

Brother

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2019 03:23 PM (NFEMn)

362 >> Former Baltimore Mayor, Tommy Delasandro has died.

Who dat?
...
Nancy Pelosi's father.
...
Brother



She's Somali?

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2019 03:24 PM (bEuc8)

363 "Brother"

You be correct.

I forgot...both father and brother were Mayors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 03:25 PM (cqNba)

364 Shangri La is very great as well

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 20, 2019 03:34 PM (PUmDY)

365 "being a paranoid psychopath is why Hillary killed
Epstein before he could snitch, and why Hillary has avoided prison all
her life."Posted by: derp state is in deep shit

it\s not paranoia if they really are out to get you. "They" being justice, in Hillary's case. Killing off her enemies is practical gangland management ... best practices for maintaining the cartel. Any person that is a perceived threat must be publicly punished or killed, as a message to the other snitches .... doesn't matter if they are innocent .. not allowed to embarrass the mob boss.


But I think Hillary served higher powers ... her big bankers. The grifters in politics are a weakness in our system ... because they sell America out to enemies ... BigBank or China. I think Big Bank is most powerful, not the swamp itself, which serves Them, the silent ones. Madoff was nothing compared to Long Term Capital M' ... or Morgan and Goldman.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 03:34 PM (Cus5s)

366 "Western Europe is gone to Islam, and will be a
caliphate soon. I think the Eastern Europe and the US is the closest
you've got these days." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

imo they are not yet gone, but certainly the "West" shows little interest in fighting back. My impression is a majority are just silent, the sleeping giant if you will. Awakening is occurring, but without strong action and a change of the (government, especially the bureaucratic EU) guard, they are doomed.


But demographics is still not destiny ... a wake up could still happen, once they realize the knife is at their throat. Most are rather isolated from the violence ... the yellow vest thing showed there may still be hope ... Brexit also ... signs of resistance, but a massive fall of the EU probably has to happen first.


Population growth is less essential than it used to be ... imo. It might actually be more of a problem, than a (forced) solution. (Merkel and others seem to feel they must import more breeders, same wrong think in the US)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 03:46 PM (Cus5s)

367 Something I stumbled across years ago and just found again -- George Washington's prophecy for America, from his time at Valley Forge.

https://tinyurl.com/y38nhcdt

Posted by: Empire1 at October 20, 2019 04:18 PM (6Hv6f)

368 Want to know about Islam? Get sword and the Simitar by Raymond Ibrahm. Intro alone should kill the religion of peace crap!

Posted by: Aelishdad at October 20, 2019 06:26 PM (P8upX)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 10-20-2019

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University Library of Leuven-Louvain, Belgium


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), jokers, smokers, midnight tokers, and the pompatus of love, whom I just know gets up early on Sundays just for this thread. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look like a lot of wishful thinking went into making them. In fact, one might call them the triumph of hope over experience.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®




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'Girl Reading', Franz Ebyl, 1850

A Book By A Bunch of Guys Named Dave

This is cute:

The history of science fiction and fantasy is littered with stories by Davids of distinction. Now, for the first time, an anthology by people named David, for everyone.

Read along as editor David Afsharirad guides you through the strange, wondrous imaginations of the great Davids of the field, past and present. Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller, and many more.

And what do these Davids like to write about?

Herein you will find: a Depression-era magic man who comes face-to-face with an ancient evil. A once-promising filmmaker whose fate depends on a movie-producing AI. A shape-shifting detective on the trail of a pack of werewolves. A sentient tank who must confront one of its own. And a diner regular who gets more than he bargained for when he orders the soup du jour.

Yes, The Chronicles of Davids has all that and more!

Some SJW types are whining at Baen because, well, because all of the authors are named Dave and so therefore it's not very inclusive. Particularly toward women. So Baen said, hold on, we've got this, Women of Futures Past, edited by Kristine Kathryn Rusch.

You'll find Northwest Smith, C.L. Moore’s famous smuggler who predates (and maybe inspired) Han Solo by four decades. Read Leigh Brackett’s fiction and see why George Lucas chose her to write The Empire Strikes Back. Adventure tales, post‑apocalyptic visions, space opera, aliens‑among‑us, time travel—these women have delivered all this and more, some of the best science fiction ever written!

Also stories by Lois McMaster Bujold, Pat Cadigan, CJ Cherryh, Zenna Henderson, Nancy Kress, Ursula K. Le Guin, Anne McCaffrey, Andre Norton, James Tiptree, Jr., and Connie Willis.

And then the SJWs went, "oh, women, pfft!" and rolled their eyes. I guess they wanted more gay Muslim midgets of color. And complained that there weren't any *contemporary* women authors.

Hell with them. Let them watch the new, super-woke Batwoman series on CW. Nobody else is.




Who Dis:

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Last Sunday's 'Who Dis' was Ethan Hawke.



Moron Recommendations

Vic digs up an old classic:

8 I started to read Islands of Rage and Hope by John Ringo but I noted reference to a 1950s dystopian book named 'Alas, Babylon' by Pat Frank. It was about a nuclear war between the US and Russia and how a small town in FL coped with it. It sounded interesting so I downloaded it and read it. It was a short novel and pretty cheap. It was interesting.

Posted by: Vic at October 13, 2019 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

That brings back memories. I first read Alas, Babylon when I was in high school back in the 70s. What I remember best about it is the episode where the family had to find a source of salt. In post-apocolyptic America, there is no electricity and hence no refrigeration, so the preservative qualities of salt have suddenly become very important.

Alas, Babylon is a 1959 novel by American writer Pat Frank (the pen name of Harry Hart Frank). It was one of the first apocalyptic novels of the nuclear age and has remained popular more than half century after it was first published, consistently ranking in Amazon.com's Top 20 Science Fiction Short Stories list (which groups together short story collections and novels) and has an entry in David Pringle's book Science Fiction: The 100 Best Novels. The novel deals with the effects of a nuclear war on the fictional small town of Fort Repose, Florida, which is based upon the actual city of Mount Dora, Florida. The novel's title is derived from the Book of Revelation: "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come."

So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic science fiction sub-genre.

Sometimes Amazon will gouge you for these sorts of classic books, but surprisingly, the Kindle edition is only $2.99. As Vic says, it's a short, cheap read.

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Stuff they don't teach in schools any more:

31 Last week, my wife, the lovely and gracious Annalucia, and I visited Montpelier, the home of James and Dolley Madison. The estate has been restored relatively recently and is well worth visiting. Madison's study on the second floor, a small room looking east that in his day was literally stacked high with books, is impressive in its simplicity; and to stand in the place where that genius devised his "Virginia Plan", the first draft of what was to become the US Constitution, was for me quite moving. If you have the opportunity, you should go.

I mention this because the docent who guided us through the mansion, and who was excellent, recommended "The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President" by Noah Feldman. Annalucia and I are reading it aloud, as is our habit, and we're about halfway through the Philadelphia convention. So far, the book is excellent. Feldman organizes and presents this complex material in a way that is lucid and compelling.

Previously, I'd read Lynne Cheney's biography of Madison, and found it to be superficial. Feldman is much more substantive. I think it is a good introduction to Madison's life and thought; and understanding Madison is a key to understanding our Republic. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Brown Line at October 13, 2019 09:17 AM (S6ArX)

The Amazon blurb for this book is quite lengthy. Madison hoped to

...eradicate partisanship yet found himself giving voice to, and institutionalizing, the political divide. Madison’s lifelong loyalty to Thomas Jefferson led to an irrevocable break with George Washington, hero of the American Revolution. Madison closely collaborated with Alexander Hamilton on the Federalist papers—yet their different visions for the United States left them enemies.

This is great stuff. What *do* they teach in schools these days?

We may be more familiar with other Founding Fathers, but the United States today is in many ways Madisonian in nature. Madison predicted that foreign threats would justify the curtailment of civil liberties. He feared economic inequality and the power of financial markets over politics, believing that government by the people demanded resistance to wealth. Madison was the first Founding Father to recognize the importance of public opinion, and the first to understand that the media could function as a safeguard to liberty.

"Could".

One wonders what Madison would have to say about what our media has become, namely, fluffers for the basest sorts of perfidy, assholery, and totalitarianism. Of course, it was Geo. Washington (I think) who referred to the journalists of his day as "infernal scribblers", so maybe he wouldn't be all that surprised.

It's $12.99 for the Kindle edition of The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President

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A lurker writes:

I just finished a copy of Thomas Sowell's In Search of Cosmic Justice. Written about 20 years ago, still worth the read and very prescient.

Any book whose Amazon blurb begins with:

This is not a comforting book

...is probably worth a look:

[I]t is a book about disturbing issues that are urgently important today and enduringly critical for the future. It rejects both "merit" and historical redress as principles for guiding public policy. It shows how "peace" movements have led to war and to needless casualties in those wars. It argues that "equality" is neither right nor wrong, but meaningless.

The Quest for Cosmic Justice shows how confused conceptions of justice end up promoting injustice, how confused conceptions of equality end up promoting inequality, and how the tyranny of social visions prevents many people from confronting the actual consequences of their own beliefs and policies. Those consequences include the steady and dangerous erosion of the fundamental principles of freedom -- and the quiet repeal of the American revolution.

The Quest for Cosmic Justice is available on Kindle for $12.99, but there are cheap, used paperbacks available, too.

Of course, pretty much any book by Thomas Sowell is worth reading. The man is a national treasure.


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Old and Busted:

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The New Hotness:

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Books By Morons

Last we heard from conservative author Adam Lane Smith, his action hero, Maxwell Cain, couldn't eat his burrito lunch without bad guys trying to kill him. But now it seems he's pioneering a new subgenre of science fiction, called "heavy metal Christian pulp" with his latest novel, Gideon Ira: Knight of the Blood Cross, which is the first installment of his new Deus Vult Wasteland series:

Demons and Necromancers haunt a burnt and blasted future in the ruins of what was once America.

A holy crusader sworn to slaughter the dark cults of Ba’al the Ever-Hungry must rescue a band of innocent children with his blade and blood-soaked gauntlets, or die trying.

All of Hell thirsts for his blood, but a man of God will never be broken. This holy crusader’s vengeance will be brutal.

The Kindle edition is $3.99. It is also available in paperback.

This is the first in Smith'a Deus Vult Wastland series.

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I think pimping an academic author really classes up the joint. A lurking moron author e-mails:

I'm a history/archaeology professor at a small Texas College (TJC-The College of East Texas) and publish quite a bit, usually in other people's books.

But, my own collaborator, Jennifer Loughmiller-Cardinal recently published our own book on Native American tobacco.

It's an academic book, so it is not cheap. They're expensive because the print run is so small.

At any rate, for those who are interested in not reading anything political, it's about pre-Colombian tobacco among the Maya peoples of Central American, the largest group of Native Americans in the Americas, its ritual, medicinal, and recreational uses, the oldest snuff bottle tradition in the world, and the chemistry, biology, history, and archaeology of all of the above.

And not just the Maya, apparently, because the Amazon blurb says

...this volume assembles scholars from a variety of disciplines and specialties to discuss tobacco in modern and ancient contexts. The chapters utilize research from archaeology, ethnography, mythic narrative, and chemical science from the eighth through the twenty-first centuries.

And he ain't kidding about it not being cheap. Breath and Smoke: Tobacco Use among the Maya sells for $75.00, hardcover.

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And speaking of another expensive academic book, another really smart moron wrote a philosophical treatise, The Epistemological Skyhook: Determinism, Naturalism, and Self-Defeat

Throughout philosophical history, there has been a recurring argument to the effect that determinism, naturalism, or both are self-referentially incoherent. By accepting determinism or naturalism, one allegedly acquires a reason to reject determinism or naturalism. The Epistemological Skyhook brings together, for the first time, the principal expressions of this argument, focusing primarily on the last 150 years. This book addresses the versions of this argument as presented by Arthur Lovejoy, A.E. Taylor, Kurt Gödel, C.S. Lewis, Norman Malcolm, Karl Popper, J.R. Lucas, William Hasker, Thomas Nagel, Alvin Plantinga, and others, along with the objections presented by their many detractors. It concludes by presenting a new version of the argument that synthesizes the best aspects of the others while also rendering the argument immune to some of the most significant objections made to it.

This isn't a light read. The Kindle version is north of $50, but you get a lot of meat for your money. But Jim gave a couple of interviews (here and here) where he talks about the issues he raises in his books, as well as many other books and authors.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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1 Rosemary Clooney

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (U7k5w)

2 The history of science fiction and fantasy is littered with stories by Davids of distinction.

best one is David Weber.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 I did NOT expect a first. Hence the answer to who's dis?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:04 AM (U7k5w)

4 Wow. Way to go, OM. BBL when I've absorbed the content.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 09:04 AM (+a9vj)

5 Nice Lieberry!

Russian Bots, what can't they do......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 09:05 AM (Z+IKu)

6 Rosemary Clooney
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM

I didn't know she was green with tentacles. The things you learn on the book thread!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (COzlW)

7 Good morning fellow Book threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (bmdz3)

8 I also love the "askhole" word. You'd think with all these damn phones, people could look up the answers and not bother others.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (U7k5w)

9 Booken morgen has

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (G546f)

10
Congress is chockablock with askholes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (pNxlR)

11 I didn't know she was green with tentacles. The things you learn on the book thread!
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 20, 2019 09:06 AM (COzlW)

She didn't used to be, but she was reincarnated

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (U7k5w)

12 The library of leavin lovin London is full of Brexiters

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (G546f)

13 Nice video. Has to do with words-if not reading.

https://tinyurl.com/y4vgc8ux

And on a reading note, I am reading "How happiness happens" by former pastor and devotional book author Max Lucado. It's a light, but nice reading with lots of references to Scripture and the Christian life.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (j0JAA)

14
I see Biden porn has earned a place at our table.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:07 AM (pNxlR)

15 Picked up a couple of used non-fiction books.

Berlin 1961 by Frederick Kempe
and
One Hell of a Gamble by Aleksandr Fursenko and Timothy Naftali


Two of my favorite Cold War subjects. Berlin post WWII and the Cuban Missle Crisis.

Can't decide which to read first!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (1GAHG)

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Have been reading a new author and series by Michael Manning, the Mage Born series. It has been a good one and someone to definitely follow. I am now on the 4th book in the series.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

17 Those pants are fine. I would wear them to CC a crossbow to a barbeque in my back yard.

Posted by: Daktari at October 20, 2019 09:08 AM (Tnijr)

18 What's that 19th Century chick reading?!

Ann Radcliffe?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

19 i wonder if Rosemary and her sister were commie-loving mouth breathers like George is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (1GAHG)

20 I just downloaded the free sample of Skyhook.

Maybe this week I'll stick to reading kiddie lit to the grandsons.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (U7k5w)

21 I know I probably shouldn't, but I laughed at the picture of Hitler on a sled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2019 09:12 AM (j0JAA)

22 19
i wonder if Rosemary and her sister were commie-loving mouth breathers like George is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 09:11 AM (1GAHG)

Rosemary Cloony was find until her son died and then she wound up going off the deep end. She gained so much weight it took 10 pallbearers to carry her coffin at the funeral.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

23 find = fine

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

24 I read Alas, Babylon in Jr. High!

I'm slogging through Cloudsplitter, which is about America's radical abolitionist John Brown through the eyes of his son, Owen. The writing captures the painstaking style from the 19th Century (2-3x too verbose). It helps me go to sleep...

Posted by: scrood at October 20, 2019 09:14 AM (V2Lun)

25 Plan is to read Les Miserables again when winter kicks in. I really love that book.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (wIfek)

26 Reading news: The Spanish Civil War obsession is fading. I'm on my last book: Polikarpov I-15, I-16, and I-153 Aces.

This is one of the Osprey Aces books, and it's a little different from the others since it focuses on an airframe that was in multiple conflicts. A couple of things I've already learned:

Soviet pilots that came back from Spain with lots of kills were treated like heroes (and even named Hero of the Soviet Union) but when the Germans attacked, a lot were used as scapegoats to cover up the crappy state of Soviet airpower. You had guys who were jumped up to general and then shot for treason. Nice place to work.

Other tidbit: Soviet manufacturing was really shoddy. Like so shoddy that wings would fold up without warning. Some of the batches of aircraft (I-16 in particular) were so badly made that the pilots refused to fly them.

Another win for Communist manufacturing!

Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia, but I'd like to case the local used book stores before I go online.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

27 Still reading Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, which is about how insanely complicated our biological makeup is, which leads to the Design Hypothesis.

Just started Consciousness and the Universe: Quantum Physics, Evolution, Brain & Mind, edited by physicist Roger Penrose. Promises to be a difficult and enlightening read.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:16 AM (88cFV)

28 I found a copy of Cinnabar the One O'clock Fox, and some other Marguerite Henry books in the recesses of my home library. Should make nice reading to the boys, who love animal stories.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (U7k5w)

29
Montpelier, James Madison's home, was last owned privately by Marion duPont Scott, who had been married to Randolph Scott (yes, THAT Randolph Scott). She was instrumental in establishing the steeplechase racing circuit here in the U.S..

Let's just say that the decor in some rooms, being horsey set focused, did not do the place justice when I visited it in the late 1980s.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (pNxlR)

30 I'm reading "Limestones and Marls - Coastal Plain of Georgia." - printed 1916.

Content is kind of dry, unless maybe you want to learn how to make your own lime.

Content aside, I found this at a library old book sale. This book is over 100 years old and I was wondering about the binding. I looks like it could be vinyl but of course it's not. Some kind of fabric I suppose. It's well bound and printed, one of those books that's more fun to look at than read.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:17 AM (Tnijr)

31 For those with an interest in U.S. history, Jas. Townsend and Son is having a sale on their 18th century cookbooks and travel journals about the frontier of the time. I have a number of them in paperback and they are well done. I am fascinated with the period. Check the website.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:18 AM (bmdz3)

32 "Like so shoddy that wings would fold up without warning."


Dive mode. Feature not a bug.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (Tnijr)

33 Writing news: Took the first halting steps of writing again after the cardiac event last month. Tough going after a break like that because you lose the mood and the sense of where things are.

On the other hand, I'm not really pushing the plot forward so much as adding detail and additional scenes to fill the story out. So it's kind of like a review. Based on word count, I'm little over halfway there. I've a busy week ahead of me, but after that things are reasonably open.

Plus, the weather is changing, which means I won't get pulled outside as much. Writing is a great way to pass the cold, dark winter in Michigan.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

34 "So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic
science fiction sub-genre."

Yeah. sure.

I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up
a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels
to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cprte)

35 26: My husband's cousin (now 95) married a Spanish Civil War vet who joined the US Army after Franco forced out his kind. He was an anarchist asshole who wanted to be a Basque Hemingway, but failed. His great novel was not translated, so I never read it.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (U7k5w)

36 I read Alas, Babylon in high school. I remember it as a whole book, not a short story. Hmmm. Now I wish I hadn't culled my copy.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (axQWp)

37 I don't always recognize the reading celebrity in the photos but today's was easy. That's what Rosemary Clooney looked like when she made "White Christmas" with Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye, a movie I've seen about 5 gazillion times.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (bmdz3)

38 Dive mode. Feature not a bug.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (Tnijr)

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Surprise dive.

The book says that five pilots were killed by 'wing failure.'

The rest of the pilots held out for inspections and rebuilds before getting into the things.

The next batch had engine defects and what the author calls "defective armament." Presumably the machine guns didn't work, which can make dogfighting extra challenging.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)

39 36
I read Alas, Babylon in high school. I remember it as a whole book, not a short story. Hmmm. Now I wish I hadn't culled my copy.


Posted by: Laura Montgomery at October 20, 2019 09:21 AM (axQWp)

Its only 189 pages.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:23 AM (mpXpK)

40 Those sci-fi anthology books that I used to read years ago always seemed to have a story by Ursula K LeGuin, one of the only woman authors usually in them

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:23 AM (UwZJZ)

41 The next batch had engine defects and what the author calls "defective armament." Presumably the machine guns didn't work, which can make dogfighting extra challenging.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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No wonder the Sovs thought that mid-air ramming was a viable tactic.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (iB1oa)

42 I read a very good book about a little known act of heroism. Lucky 666 is the story of a group of misfits in the south pacific in WWII. On a constantly bombed front line base on Papua New Guinea, the men take a bad luck B17 airframe, tail number 666, rebuild it, and convert it to a photo reconnaissance plane. They add in a couple of dozen extra guns since they don't plan on carrying bombs. One day, they are asked to photograph Bouganville Island, over 600 miles away, to glean information prior to the American invasion. Without spoiling too much of the story, this flight will earn more than one medal of honor and entail the longest running dogfight in US military history.

I wish I could tell Clint Eastwood about this book - what a movie this would make.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (G4pfN)

43 I'm reading _The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard_, an anthology of, well, what it says on the cover.

When he sticks to Texas folklore and rural horror, Howard's pretty good. But when he tries to stray into Lovecraft territory, the results are almost comical. I say that because Howard couldn't -- I almost think he physically couldn't -- write the kind of neurasthenic, fragile, helpless protagonists Lovecraft used in his stories of humans shattered by encounters with cosmic weirdness.

So Howard trying to write Lovecraft winds up being, basically, ". . . and then the powerfully-built man of pure ancient Celtic stock murdered the fuck out of the tentacled horror. The end."

Entertaining, yes, but not especially spooky.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (DYSh2)

44 What?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (eWeSU)

45 I really enjoyed Alas, Babylon as a high school kid. Not sure if I read it on my own or was assigned to read it in class.

I surmise the latter, based on my memory of my friends and I referring to it sarcastically as "Alice, Bologna".

Great story that was a realistic portrayal of what it would be like to survive after a nuclear war.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:25 AM (88cFV)

46 Yeah, I too read "Alas, Babylon" back in high school ... same stand of hard-re-covered paperbacks by a window where I found "A Canticle For Leibowitz".



LOL, "heavy metal Christian pulp" !

Might read that just because the very idea of it makes me smile.
The Amazon reviews are good, fwiw ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:25 AM (bwo3w)

47 Read In Order to Die by Henry Ainley. Published in 1955, it is the memoir of a Britisher that joined the French Foreign Legion to fight Communists in Indochina. The author served in a battalion that provided security services near the Cambodian border from 1951 - 1953. Not as much combat accounts as I was expecting because he was literate, he was used as an acting Company and Battalion Sergeant Major rather than a platoon leader. His experiences thoroughly disillusioned him due to the rampant corruption, alcoholism, cattle-rustling, looting, rape and murder committed by the troops (and condoned by the officers) he served with; it's no wonder France couldn't hold Indochina because they treated all the Vietnamese like trash, even those pre-disposed to remain under French rule. Ultimately, a somewhat interesting worm's-eye view of that war. Rating = 3.9/5.0

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:26 AM (5Yee7)

48 So Howard trying to write Lovecraft winds up being,
basically, ". . . and then the powerfully-built man of pure ancient
Celtic stock murdered the fuck out of the tentacled horror. The end."



Entertaining, yes, but not especially spooky.



Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (DYSh2)

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You can see Lovecraft's influence on Howard in some of the later Conan stories.

And yeah, it's like that. The ancient evil rises up, everyone else runs away, wails in fear and Conan walks up and uses his mighty thews of steel to rip the bugger into four pieces, all the while cursing it as a dog.

Then he carries off the babe in the translucent dress.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

49 Who Dis : Anal surprise Annie.......it was a ghostly nite with Hemmingway @ the tiller..........

Girl reading Franz Ebyl is aboot to go totes rub a dub dub and lose her place in the book.........Fapulous read...

Sorry my pants are at the cleaners don't ask don't smell...................the Belgium Library is roomy preparing for the non brexiters and waffle houseians

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

50 When America Online started calling themselves AOL,
I couldn't unsee "Albertian Order of Leibowitz".

Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cprte)

51 No wonder the Sovs thought that mid-air ramming was a viable tactic.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:24 AM (iB1oa)

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Yep. They learned it in Spain. It's mentioned in the book.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)

52 Everyone I Don't Agree With Is A Russian Bot
A child's guide to media and government excuse-making for political failings.

With a Forward Trajectory by Seth Rich

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (Ndje9)

53 By the way, didn't the beastly Hun torch that library in 1914?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:30 AM (DYSh2)

54 Girl reading Franz Ebyl is aboot to go totes rub a dub dub and lose her place in the book.........Fapulous read...


Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

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Ace just texted me to say that picture made his pants feel funny.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

55 Best example of Lovecraft vs. Howard is the Weird Tales round-robin story "The Challenge of the Unknown" which they wrote along with Kuttner and Moore. It's a hoot and a half to watch those four grabbing the steering wheel away from each other.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 09:32 AM (DYSh2)

56 Reading aloud with your spouse.....priceless!

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:32 AM (5aCkc)

57 "I find television to be very educational. Whenever somebody turns one on, I go into another room and read a book."

- Grouch Marx, the only Marxist worth paying attention to because he got the most screen time and Harpo never spoke in their movies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:33 AM (HaL55)

58 I read Alas, Babylon in Jr. High!
...
Posted by: scrood at October 20, 2019 09:14 AM (V2Lun)


I also highly recommend Alas, Babylon!. Pat Frank is pretty much forgotten now, but he was good author just not a lot of output (he started out as a crime reporter). The decisions the characters make, both good and bad, generally "ring true."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (5Yee7)

59 With a Forward Trajectory by Seth Rich

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:29 AM (Ndje9)

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It would have flowed better if he hadn't organized his remarks with bullet points.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (cfSRQ)

60 The Girl Reading brought back a great memory . I'd be in bed reading one of my favorite genre of Vampire, Werewolf, romance novels and my late husband would walk in the room and say"you've got that look on your face". I knew I would be in for a great night. She has that look.

Posted by: Sharon at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (QzF6i)

61 Plus, the weather is changing, which means I won't get pulled outside as much. Writing is a great way to pass the cold, dark winter in Michigan.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

I always found the Michigan winter to be a productive time and always took an extra course during the winter trimester at MSU, I went when they had that system.

Glad you're recovering.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (U7k5w)

62 And yeah, it's like that. The ancient evil rises up, everyone else runs away, wails in fear and Conan walks up and uses his mighty thews of steel to rip the bugger into four pieces, all the while cursing it as a dog.

Then he carries off the babe in the translucent dress.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

I saw Translucent Negligee open for Mighty Thews back in 88

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (G546f)

63 "You smell that? Do you smell that?... Books, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of books in the morning."

-Joseph Conrad

Posted by: DC at October 20, 2019 09:35 AM (/TvO8)

64 The week's reading was mostly Linux manuals, stuff that makes dryasdust look positively scintillating ... the light reading was "The Captain From Connecticut" by C. S. Forester.
Strange but true, never read a word of any of his books; dunno why, just never caught me, never picked one up cheap and used, or found one as the only reading matter available when caught bookless, but I hear much talk of him in this thread, so when it came up for 99 cents in some suggestion category on the Kindle, I bought it. Good read. Bought a couple more 99-centers afterwards.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:35 AM (bwo3w)

65 1 Rosemary Clooney

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (U7k5w)


Very nice! A first AND a correct guess.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (jjpZH)

66 Just started reading Molly's book, "Justice on Trial"

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (F6tBH)

67 When Hillary says "Russian assests", she means America's uranium $upply.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (Ndje9)

68 57 "I find television to be very educational. Whenever somebody turns one on, I go into another room and read a book."

- Grouch Marx, the only Marxist worth paying attention to because he got the most screen time and Harpo never spoke in their movies.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:33 AM (HaL55)

This is so true.

When my kids were kids, my husband and I hated TV and insisted they do better things. They thanked us for that as adults. Now, however, he wants to watch some tiresome show nearly every evening. I bought better headphones to cancel it out so I can do other things, but it still irks me that he is becoming Chauncey Gardner.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (U7k5w)

69 Read second book of P.F. Kuang trilogy, The Dragon Republic. Don't like it. Book is reading as some fun fiction by inexperienced author. Main character just annoying, pro-abortion scene does not add anything to story line, anti-western turn of plot. Disappointment. Good thing, I borrow this book in the library and did not pay for it

Posted by: remonkey at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (KL1FG)

70 Any Hillary surrogates show up on the morning shows to defend her incoherent babbling? I refuse to watch them.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:38 AM (UwZJZ)

71 Finished The Hobbit audio book and started The Fellowship of the Ring both read by Rob Inglis who's very good. Also started The Saxon and Norman Kings by Christopher Brooke. It's a bit dry.

Making note of the Madison bio since I'm trying to read bios of all the presidents.

Alas Babylon was required reading in some classes in my high school, but since I wasn't in any of those classes I've never read it. I should probably try to find a copy.

Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)

72 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (X/Pw5)

73
Very nice! A first AND a correct guess.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 09:37 AM (jjpZH)

Thanks. I did not expect a first, and it looks like an odd way to announce that feat!

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (U7k5w)

74 LOL, retropox, AOL !

Same here.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (bwo3w)

75 I finished a book by Nabokov, Despair, originally written in Russian in the 30s, as part and parcel of reading his two part biography and reading what he wrote chronologically. Strangely enough, although he's still a young man when he wrote this, Ive now read more than 50% of the number of titles he wrote, although some of the later works like Pale Fire and Ada were much longer works.

The book was kind of a slog to get through because it was written by a nutty guy who was writing an after the fact account of committing a perfect crime of insurance fraud by killing this deadbeat guy who he thought looked exactly like him and then running off and assuming his identity after which his wife would join him, after collecting the death benefit, and they'd be rich and happy together. Except nobody thought the other guy looked that much like him, including the other guy; as soon as the cops found the stiff with all the murderers IDs on him they knew it wasn't him. The murderers car was run off with by whoever came across it and when the cops finally found it, it had the dead guy's walking stick in it with his name embossed on it so his "perfect crime" turned to shit. The title is what he was feeling when he finally realized that.

It's too bad Nabokov isn't still around and with a website where you could ask him questions about this book. For starters this had plenty of Dostoyevskian elements throughout it (the main character even refers to "Old Dusty" at one point) and Nabokov badmouthed Fyodor's writing brutally in his Lectures on Russian Literature. Part of that might have been class based because he considered Dostoyevsky a lowlife who often wrote hurriedly to pay off gambling debts. But he also criticized what he thought were half assed Freudian elements so who knows. Also I've mentioned before that Nabokov uses very imaginative descriptions of the settings of his characters. Welp those are present here as described by the main character except they're clunky and awkward. So I'd like to ask him that too.

Even though I don't consider this in his top tier of books it's stayed in my mind a lot longer than an inferior book would. Writing from the perspective of a loon (his wife was obviously banging an artist friend who he thought she couldn't stand) is as old as Don Quixote, about which Vlad wrote a book of lecture notes, and this was subsequently done in Pale Fire. I just don't feel he pulled it off that successfully.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

76 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (arJlL)

77 I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz


Heh.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (88cFV)

78 *delurk*
It may amuse the denizens here to know that Kris Rusch originally wanted to title "Women of Futures Past" as "The Women that Women Forget".
*relurk*

Posted by: CMB at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (7yxtP)

79 Crap. Here, take this letter "O" and put it in my previous comment. Anywhere will be fine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (HaL55)

80 University Library of Leuven-Louvain, Belgium

Are all the books in Belgish ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (arJlL)

81 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

I love Rosemary Clooney. I don't care for what her voice became after she had her nervous breakdown, though. And let me recommend three albums of hers for your listening pleasure - Rosie Solves the Swinging Ridddle, Clap Hands! Here Comes Rosie! and her duet album with Der Bingle, Fancy Meeting You Here.

Speaking of "infamous scribblers," that's the title of a book about the Founders and their antagonistic relations with the worthless Fourth Estate:

https://tinyurl.com/yyuru5og

And I know I've recommended The Annotated HP Lovecraft here before. There's now a new companion volume, Beyond Arkham:

https://tinyurl.com/y3mjb4gq

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (Ki5SV)

82 I really splurged this week and ordered an unabridged audio CD of the LOTR. It is read by Robert Inglis. I played some of the first disc and I'm impressed. This isn't the dramatized version by the BBC, which I find somewhat distracting with the background music and sound effects.

So far, Inglis' narration is clear, varied by character, and pleasant. Also, his pace of reading makes me think this is how Tolkien would do it, based on a few examples of him in interviews I've found.

I don't use audio books often. But I so enjoyed Gary Sinise reading "Travels With Charley" and the audio of "Master and Commander" by Simon Vance. I've re-read LOTR annually for over fifty years and almost don't need my eyes to see the words on the page. But the audio of the books above gave added insight with the reader's delivery. I thought it would be worth a try with LOTR.

Anyone else try this approach with books they are thoroughly familiar with? Did it add to your enjoyment?

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (bmdz3)

83 Good morning all ... that library had the misfortune to have been destroyed twice over - in both world wars.
http://libraryhistorybuff.com/louvain.htm
The first time around, it was seen as a deliberate attempt by the invading Germans to destroy all memory of Belgian history and culture. It was rebuilt with extensive donations of money and books from England and America ... just in time to be bombed in the second war.

For myself, work proceeding on the next book, and some discussion with my co-author on the next Luna City installment. We're getting ready for the Christmas marketing season, so November and December will be very busy months for us...

We had a market yesterday, on the grounds of a local community college, and I read nearly all of Kurt Schlicter's "Indian Country". It's a book that is almost too ultra-violent for my taste, but since it concerns all-out guerrilla warfare, that's baked-in. It's redeemed by a lot of bitter humor, regarding social-justice strictures being taken to their logical ultimate extent. (Like the differentially-abled airline pilot. Who is blind...)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (xnmPy)

84 Bigunjames..........period..........

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (5aCkc)

85 Glad you're recovering.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (U7k5w)

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Thanks. I've been feeling pretty good of late. Lost some weight and I'm sleeping longer.

My freshman year was the last year MSU did the old system. After that it was semesters. I enjoyed the solid month off in December-January.

One of the challenges I'm dealing with is that my vampire story was started more than a decade ago and a lot has changed in Michigan. Smart phones, social media, cameras everywhere - all that imposed changes on the narrative.

Also the disappearance of CDs. Little things like that. Makes me feel old.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (cfSRQ)

86 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?
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"Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)

87
34 "So it's the godfather of the post-apocalyptic
science fiction sub-genre."

Yeah. sure.

I'd be happy to discuss it, but I have to go pick up
a pound of pastrami, a can of kraut, and six bagels
to bring home for Emma

Posted by: Al Leibowitz at October 20, 2019 09:19 AM (cprte)

******

It's been over 40 years since I read "Canticle". I may still have a copy in a box up in the attic. I have a few boxes I haven't gone through since we moved here 17 years ago.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (NqQAS)

88 I finished the history of the Missouri synod last week. I really loved it, I will have to write some lectures on a it.

Read a novel called Throne of Glass recommend by my cousin easy read but to girl power for me.

Starting the last 3 Fritz Lieberman books now.

Posted by: Dread0 at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (thwGF)

89 Every day is period day on the book thread.

Posted by: . at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Tnijr)

90 I've hurt my right shoulder, so typing is painful. But I have to say the Skyhook book looks interesting, though far beyond the capacity my wallet. I note "Look Inside" doesn't include the index in the Kindle version, but does under Hardcover. That's useful. Also the bibliography has SIX works cited by British PM, Balfour.

Reading through section one, it does seem promising, especially the following Epicurus section.

A key question is one of an ambiguity in words like "cause" or "determine". There is a clear distinction between the physical efficient cause of something, and (for a belief) its rational grounds. If I err in reasoning, it doesn't mean that the laws of physics or chemistry were violated in my brain. They are running on as usual. It is my reasoning which is at fault.

I do object to one thing: the use of the PC Feminine. It's just a distraction, this current use of "she" where English has always used "he". The problem isn't really a question of why one does so, rather it's simply that it breaks the flow of reading, which in a work of this sort is a problem. I suppose it's just a matter of today's academic nonsense. It may seem natural in that context; to the rest of the world, comes across like confusing which of the "two/too/to" family one uses.

I'm surprised to see no entry for "intentionality". I'd have thought that would be relevant.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (ZbwAu)

91 "Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.

Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, & guess what? He can WRITE.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

92
My calendar just reminded me that I have to set out for Sussex County in order to begin closing up for the winter months. BBL ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

93 'Girl Reading', Franz Ebyl, 1850

They had those rubber band wrist thingies in 1850 ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:45 AM (arJlL)

94 Alas Babylon was required reading in some classes in my high school, but since I wasn't in any of those classes I've never read it. I should probably try to find a copy.
Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)


Mucho paperbacks out there for cheap. If you want a hardback 1st ed; that's going to set you back at bit. I paid about $45 for mine without the jacket but Facsimile Dust Jackets (great site, by the way) has high-quality reproduction jackets for $22 plus shipping.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 20, 2019 09:45 AM (5Yee7)

95 Rosemary Clooney !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (arJlL)

96 Reading aloud with your spouse:

are PANTS optional in this situation

"and he ripped off her bodice while her heaving breasts turned on the pages and him too as the turgid
text demanded a deeper meaning than mere lust,it was a hard read she screamed as they read to the twins at bedtime..................... to be continued fer sure......"

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (5IHGB)

97 "Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)

98 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?
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"Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)


The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (y7DUB)

99 One other point. After reading a bunch of unsatisfactory mysteries I decided to play it safe and read a Perry Mason. This was the Drowning Duck.

An interesting point I noted. It was published in 1942. In it, both Perry and the judge have to ask "What's a detergent?"

It also make explicit what is implied in both the books and the show: Paul Drake's office is in the same building and on the same floor as Perry's. Since Mason is a high-priced lawyer, and his office is fairly posh (again, true both on the screen and on the page), that sounds pricey for a PI.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (ZbwAu)

100 "Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y3qe7ccr

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (X/Pw5)

101 Sussex County...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

New Jersey or England?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (wYseH)

102 91
"Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.



Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, guess what? He can WRITE.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

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Great book. There was a companion show for it on Youtube that was quite good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:49 AM (cfSRQ)

103 So this week I have been reading Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl) and the CIA (furious at Nixon's attempts at détente). Al Haig also stars as the conniver who more or less escorts Nixon out of the White House in order to gain more power for himself.

The problem with the book is that it is plagued on nearly every page with misspellings, grammatical errors and bad proofing, which make the book read like someone's self-published opus rather than a dispassionate look at Nixon, and for that reason, I can see why the book got such bad reviews when it came out.

I'm also slowly making my way through Steven Ambrose's one-volume bio of Eisenhower, which is a very good read that I recommend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (Ki5SV)

104 Time to take down the tampon tree.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (X/Pw5)

105 The rain finally let up enough for me to go out to get some bread for lunch sandwiches. But too late now so I'll heve to get something else.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

106 66 Eisenhorn

I read "Justice On Trial" too. Admired the journalism; hated what I read.

I don't EVER want anybody telling me that political discord right now is really no worse than it has been in the past, blah blah blah.

We're in uncharted waters. Don't tell me about 1968! I was there, & this is far worse.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (Cssks)

107 Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 09:48 AM (X/Pw5)
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Gah.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:50 AM (iB1oa)

108 A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true
socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of
his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)

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I've read it before, but didn't fully understand what was going on.

Now that I've been fully immersed and know the difference between POUM, FAI, CNT, etc., it will make more sense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:51 AM (cfSRQ)

109 " 'Women of Futures Past' edited by Kristine Kathryn Rusch." But... But... But everyone knows women weren't allowed to write science fiction until Margaret Atwood!

Posted by: RNB at October 20, 2019 09:51 AM (DjjZJ)

110 Prolly don't wanna read Alas Babylon if you live in the Tampa-St. Pete area...too close to home, in a literal sorta way.

Good book, though. HS assignment was probably why we had it in the house for me to find. I read it in Jr. High, but all my sibs are older.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (XuBZu)

111 The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...

Posted by: Captain Hate


Ridin' the Cotton Pony

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (88cFV)

112 Rosemary Cloony was find until her son died and then she wound up going off the deep end. She gained so much weight it took 10 pallbearers to carry her coffin at the funeral.

After they put her in the coffin, did they have to jump up and down on her to maker her fit ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:52 AM (arJlL)

113 which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

Ol' Yeller despises Dean as a disbarred felonious piece of lying human garbage. Is there any wonder CNN worships him?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (y7DUB)

114 I am also at this moment staring at a pile of notebooks on my desk, reminding me that I should be working on my own damned book.

Were any of you around for the movie thread last night? That was the longest and only piece of writing I have done in over a month.

As Teh Donald would say, "Sad!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ki5SV)

115

The library seems cold........they lost that Leuven feeling.

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (5IHGB)

116 I know I probably shouldn't, but I laughed at the picture of Hitler on a sled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Wait til ya see Mussolini on a Vespa.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)

117 71 I should probably try to find a copy.

Posted by: sinalco at October 20, 2019 09:39 AM (yODqO)


It is available for the Kindle from Amazon for 3.99.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (mpXpK)

118 The library seems cold........they lost that Leuven feeling.
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*throws tomato*

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (iB1oa)

119 One of the challenges I'm dealing with is that my vampire story was started more than a decade ago and a lot has changed in Michigan. Smart phones, social media, cameras everywhere - all that imposed changes on the narrative.

Also the disappearance of CDs. Little things like that. Makes me feel old.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (cfSRQ)

Make it a "period piece" and set it pre-cell phone. If there's a danger element, the lack of ability to capture the event on camera or call 911 will work better anyway. Can you imagine how most literature would suffer if the damsel in distress could grab her phone?

I was long away from MSU, but we had a professor friend from the English department who spent many holidays with us in NJ. He loved going into NYC for the theater, and we were cheaper than any hotel. Plus, we loved having him stay a week here and there. He hated the semester system and believed that the trimester was one of MSU's attractions. One could explore more subjects in 12 sessions than in 8. The work load could be a little stressful, but I agreed generally. The trimester allowed me to vary my subject matter as I was able to take more electives with 48 courses (based on a 4 course trimester) than with 32. It was nice to break up the required courses with forays into literature and history.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (U7k5w)

120 I have just finished reading Bess of Hardwick: Empire Builder. What a fascinating lady. One of the few high ranking Tudor ladies who survived the wrath of Good Queen Bess multiple times

Posted by: Jmel at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (OeWgo)

121 Pat Frank also wrote "Hold Back the Night", a novel about a Marine Company Commander during the retreat from the Chosin Reservoir. Very good.

This week I also re-read "On Valor's Side" by T. Grady Gallant, a memoir of his recruit training at Parris Island just before Pearl Harbor and his service with the Old Breed on Guadalcanal.
Even though his boot camp experiences were some 30 years before mine, it brought back a lot of memories. I never knew until much later that the DIs would get together after the training day was over and laugh about the seemingly insane sh*t their platoons would pull.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 20, 2019 09:56 AM (wZ9cV)

122 Wait til ya see Mussolini on a Vespa.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 09:54 AM (arJlL)
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Tojo on a tricycle?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:56 AM (iB1oa)

123 These are the Daves I know.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/luuzqc9

Posted by: Dave at October 20, 2019 09:57 AM (/bvAs)

124 MP4 I missed the movie thread - gonna go read it now

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:57 AM (G546f)

125 Stalin on a Pogo stick

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2019 09:58 AM (UwZJZ)

126 How did I celebrate period day Bloody Caesars for 5 days straight......................we need this holiday weekly..........

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:58 AM (5IHGB)

127 Been reading the 3rd volume about the war in the Pacific, Flood Tide. Really enjoying them.

A question for any navel personnel out there: do modern carriers have to "turn into the wind" to launch and recover? Just curious.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (VNfwt)

128 Beto O'Rourke Announces Support for Menstrual Equity Act on National Period Day


Of course he does......................

Via insty.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (5aCkc)

129 Alas Babylon. My wife caught me hoarding salt shortly after we were married. Funny now but book made a lasting impression on a 16 yr boy. Haven't thought about it in a while. Hahaha

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2019 09:59 AM (dtRY5)

130 Make it a "period piece" and set it pre-cell phone.
If there's a danger element, the lack of ability to capture the event on
camera or call 911 will work better anyway. Can you imagine how most
literature would suffer if the damsel in distress could grab her phone?


Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:55 AM (U7k5w)

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Too late now...

Maybe in a prequel.

RE: Higher ed, it's garbage. I don't want any of my kids to get a college education because it's worthless. I'm pushing them to applied degrees/certifications.

The switch to semesters culled a lot of classes and then PC culture started creating cookie-cut mandatory indoctrination classes in place of the varied electives that counted for other stuff.

For example, instead of picking from a list of humanities or arts classes, they made Integrated Arts and Humanities 201, which everyone had to take.

And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)

131 97 "Still mean to get a copy of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

A great book! Orwell loved the taste of "true socialism" that he got in Spain, which is sort of confusing in light of his other more famous books.

But the dude could write.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (wYseH)
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We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist. It really comes out if you read the 4 vol set of essays his wife edited. For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact. And he did read and review Road to Serfdom; giving that as a reason he didn't buy Hayek's argument.

Here's the review:

https://maudestavern.com/2008/10/09/ george-orwell-review/

(Remove space.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

132 I bought three books from the bargain bin not long ago.

Art of War, The Federalist and The Prince with other writings of Machiavelli.

I've just finished the Art of War. Trying to decide which to read next .

What we want , The Federalist or what you eventually get, The Prince.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (2DOZq)

133 Good morning Book Horde! I'm going through my stuff, doing a little fall cleaning & have some books to de-access:
"Russian Warships in the Age of Sail" by John Tredrea & Eduard Sozaen
"Destroyer Weapons of World War 2" by Peter Hodges
"The Army's Navy Series Volume II: Assault and Logistics Union Army Coastal and River Operations 1861-1865" and "Over Seas: U.S. Army Maritime Operations 1898 Through the Fall of The Philippines", bith by Charles Dana Gibson & E. Kay Gibson
"General Monck" by Maurice Ashley
"Our First Revolution: The Remarkable British Upheaval that Inspired America's Founding Fathers" by Michael Barone
"A History of Britain Volume II: The Wars of The British 1603-1776" by Simon Schama
Several volumes of "The Journal of Military History" ca. 2006-2009.

Any Morons interested in these books let me know

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)

134 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

135 Aunt Flo pays a visit.

Posted by: JAS at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (DBGf/)

136 According to Granny, the whole world is full of Russian assets--except the Downtown Moscow branch of Putin Savings & Loan where Bill gives half-million dollar speeches.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:03 AM (Ndje9)

137 In the early days of WWI, the Germans burned the midieval library of Louvain as a reprisal for a quite possibly imaginary attack on them by civilians.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

138 "Homage to Catalonia" is a fascinating book, but requires historical context, or else... what the hell?

Orwell wasn't there very long-- a few months. First he got shot-- in comparison to his Spanish comrades, he was so tall that he must've been a sniper's wet dream.

Then, he came VERY close to getting arrested, & perhaps executed, by the NKVD. Maybe his British passport would have saved his life, but who knows?

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 10:04 AM (Cssks)

139 "Earth abides " by Steward ( I think) was another good read

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2019 10:05 AM (dtRY5)

140 I've reached the point in A People's Tragedy where Figes describes how Lenin has unleashed The Terror with the Cheka sadistically torturing and killing everyone who stimulated their ire. Killing the Romanovs was a no brainer but carried out as ineptly as possible. But this was probably the first time the general population realized how fucked up these assholes were in charge. Lenin said it was better if 100 innocent people suffered than one guilty person go free. Anyone who says things only turned to shit under Stalin are lying tools.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

141 I wonder if -- after Animal Farm and 1984 -- anything bad happened to the NKVD officers who let Orwell get out of Spain alive?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (DYSh2)

142 Were any of you around for the movie thread last night? That was the longest and only piece of writing I have done in over a month.

As Teh Donald would say, "Sad!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ki5SV)
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I would say: writing is writing and it was great to read something so erudite.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)

143 Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

Britain's King George royally screwed his cousin. Pun intended.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:08 AM (2DOZq)

144 There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (DYSh2)

145 Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)
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I'm interested in several of those books.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (iB1oa)

146 Now that I've been fully immersed and know the difference between POUM, FAI, CNT, etc., it will make more sense.

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Splitters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (+y/Ru)

147 49 brexiters and waffle houseians
Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 09:28 AM (5IHGB)

heh

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:11 AM (GJ5tO)

148 Nazi Pelousi on a unicycle.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 20, 2019 10:11 AM (HaL55)

149 I am rereading The Mauritius Command right now, as I somehow began reading the O'Brian series in order again, but I stopped to read a pdf short story my brother sent me, called "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson (linked below, if you're interested).


It is a reprint of a story she published in the New Yorker in 1948, concerning a New England sounding village that holds a lottery every year, whose "winner" is put to death so to make the harvest bountiful. It is a well done story and incredibly disturbing; the difference between civilization and barbarism may not be as large as people hope.


https://tinyurl.com/ybtuhlbo

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (NVYyb)

150 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist..For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)


Of course, we all know that's nonsense.

Posted by: Google at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (jjpZH)

151 I would say: writing is writing and it was great to read something so erudite.
Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)


Thank you. You're very kind.

Someone on that thread mentioned Nosferatu, which I shall have to do one day. Not just because it is - using a word I hate - an iconic film, but because we are incredibly lucky to have it at all.

As almost everyone knows, Nosferatu is Dracula set entirely in Eastern Europe. Instead of Count Dracula, we have Count Orlok. Instead of Jonathan Harker, Thomas Hutter, and so on. It's so obviously stolen that Bram Stoker's widow sued for copyright infringement and won, the verdict being that all copies of Nosferatu were to be destroyed. Fortunately, one copy (not the master negative, however), survived and it is from that copy that all other copies were made, which explains why many public domain versions are of such poor quality.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (Ki5SV)

152 So this week I have been reading Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl) and the CIA (furious at Nixon's attempts at detente). Al Haig also stars as the conniver who more or less escorts Nixon out of the White House in order to gain more power for himself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

If you find Stone's premise interesting, you may wish to read
Silent Coup, by Len Kolodny

When G. Gordon Liddy had a radio show, he would periodically have Kolodny on to talk about Watergate and all that, and push the book. This was Liddy's theory about what happened, as he actually didn't know what was going on around him when he was involved. Well, he came to know later, of course.

And yes, John Dean is a real shit-weasel.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (hVpH7)

153 In Herodotus I've reached the point where Xerxes is bearing down on Greece and a lot of people are saying we preemptively surrender rather than being wiped out. Xerxes, at least how he's portrayed, would often seem weirdly benevolent toward people you'd think he'd be prone to crushing; but that's not exactly a good way to live.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

154 144 There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (DYSh2)


Yes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (jjpZH)

155 I wanna know what book that girl was reading.

rawr

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (ZLI7S)

156 Orwell ended up serving in the POUM by mistake if I remember right.

He went to Spain as part of the ILP volunteers which were assigned to the POUM militias. Orwell mentioned in his book that he wanted to transfer to the main Commie command in Madrid but he never was able to get it done.

So he came to being a POUM outlaw after the Commie crackdown by mistake or things may have turned out quite differently.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (Z+IKu)

157 Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

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That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)

158 The post-apocalyptic book that made a big impression on early me was Nevil Shute's book "On The Beach", which was originally called "The Last Days On Earth". It still is a chilling thought.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)

159 The partisanship or "factionalism" of the Founders was inevitable after the unity of purpose of the Revolution had been accomplished.

Jefferson was more vehement on media bias than any of them. Also on judicial tyranny.

Americans today are more propagandized than Soviet citizens in the Cold War.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (Ndje9)

160 We have a lot of stuff, music, educational materials, and books on CD, so this move away from them and their players is a concern. We've been getting backups for the players. There's no way we could replace it all with streaming versions, even assuming we wanted to spend the money for the service and storage.

And it is one more example, of too damn many, of not having physical control over property. I can't be the only one who resents this constant and ever faster obsolescence.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (bmdz3)

161 Faded Page has Alas Babylon and Pat Frank's other novels for free, but cautions they are "books in the Canadian public domain, which may be under copyright in other countries. If you live outside Canada, check your country's copyright laws before downloading or accessing the files."
https://www.fadedpage.com/csearch.php?author=Frank,%20Harry%20Hart

An yes, he was a good, commonsense writer.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (1vSH9)

162 Britain's King George royally screwed his cousin. Pun intended.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:08 AM (2DOZq)


Figes in a footnote is pretty scathing about that bit of betrayal.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:17 AM (y7DUB)

163 Been reading the 3rd volume about the war in the Pacific, Flood Tide. Really enjoying them.

A question for any navel personnel out there: do modern carriers have to "turn into the wind" to launch and recover? Just curious.

Posted by: Blutarski


Yes, I also read "The Navy at Flood Tide" last year. Very good book.

And not a Navy guy at all, but yes, they still turn into the wind to get lift on the planes at launching from catapults.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:18 AM (hVpH7)

164 145 Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Izzlo)
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I'm interested in several of those books.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 10:09 AM (iB1oa)

My email should be in my nic

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:21 AM (Izzlo)

165 136
According to Granny, the whole world is full of Russian assets--except
the Downtown Moscow branch of Putin Savings Loan where Bill gives
half-million dollar speeches.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 10:03 AM (Ndje9)


I saw Secret Russian Assets open for Pussy Riot in Red Square in 98.

Posted by: Spetnaz Pee Whores at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (9dzlp)

166 reading MP4's interesting Haxan review reminded me - I kinda wanna make one of those online quizzes - it would be "What kind of serial killer are you?"

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (G546f)

167 That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)


IIRC. Liddy talked about a break in at a Republican office a year or so before Watergate. Either I dreamt that or it has been scrubbed from the interwebs.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (2DOZq)

168 Roger Stone's Tricky Dick: The Rise, Fall and Rise of Richard Nixon, which basically pins Watergate on John Dean (desperate to prevent his girlfriend / wife Mo from being found out as a DC call girl)

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That is the basic theme of Len Colodny's Silent Coup which G. Gordon Liddy thinks is the true story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)


Stone references Silent Coup quite a bit, and I will have to get around to reading that some day. And somewhere in the bowels of Stately Poppins Manor I have Liddy's autograph.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (Ki5SV)

169 144 ... " There was a whole genre of YA postapocalyptic novels in the 1970s and 1980s. Were publishers pushing the idea that "Nuclear stuff is bad, m'kay?" to the kiddies, or was it just that it was in the air at the time?"

I wasn't reading YA stuff in the 70s and 80s but it sounds like "you can't trust adults and their values". (Western values). Sort of an intensification of "don't trust anyone over thirty" from the Hippies.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (bmdz3)

170 161
Faded Page has Alas Babylon and Pat Frank's other novels for free, but
cautions they are "books in the Canadian public domain, which may be
under copyright in other countries. If you live outside Canada, check
your country's copyright laws before downloading or accessing the
files."

https://www.fadedpage.com/csearch.php?author=Frank,%20Harry%20Hart



An yes, he was a good, commonsense writer.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 20, 2019 10:16 AM (1vSH9)

Gutenberg has it for free too and in fact I downloaded it from them originally. But I never could figure out how to get in on my Fire HD10 so I could read it. So I did what Amazon wanted with their new HD10, I bought it from them and let their service load it for me.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 10:23 AM (mpXpK)

171 I remember Alas Babylon, and the tag line at the end from some General who's asked what it means now we've lost a nuclear war. The General famously says "But we Won!!!"

The first post-apocalyptic book that really grabbed me was Daybreak - 2250 AD (also called Star Man's Son) Loved the cover art - originally published in 1952.

https://tinyurl.com/y4z9qhut

A lot of people have noticed that this one feels like the godfather of Thundar the Barbarian and that genre. I loved the passages of the young savage exploring the ancient ruins of the mysterious sckyscrapers, and wondering how humans could ever have lived in such things.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 10:24 AM (V2Yro)

172 Tom Servo, remember reading a lot of Andre Norton as a kid, not that one though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:25 AM (G546f)

173 "Death In Yellowstone"
Non-fiction, Lee H. Whittlesey

A collection of incidents at Yellowstone National Park that led to unfortunate deaths. Mostly involving being scalded after falling in to boiling pools. Heartbreaking reading, truly, especially those stories about parents with young children who got away from them quickly, and fell in. Just a few seconds in the hot spring can render 2nd and 3rd degree burns, and once you have those on 70% or so of your body, not much to be done, death can be agonizing, slow and certain.
Cheery stuff.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (w7KSn)

174 IIRC. Liddy talked about a break in at a Republican office a year or so before Watergate. Either I dreamt that or it has been scrubbed from the interwebs.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (2DOZq)


I'm sure it happened. When I first heard about Watergate it struck me as something LBJ, and his shithead operatives like Bill Moyers, routinely did.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

175 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

176 Maybe I should change it to a "What kind of violent offender are you" online quiz... hmmm

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:27 AM (G546f)

177 149 I am rereading The Mauritius Command right now, as I somehow began reading the O'Brian series in order again, but I stopped to read a pdf short story my brother sent me, called "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson (linked below, if you're interested).


It is a reprint of a story she published in the New Yorker in 1948, concerning a New England sounding village that holds a lottery every year, whose "winner" is put to death so to make the harvest bountiful. It is a well done story and incredibly disturbing; the difference between civilization and barbarism may not be as large as people hope.


https://tinyurl.com/ybtuhlbo
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (NVYyb)
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1. IMO, Mauritius Command is the best of the lot, and I love the whole Aubrey series. It is also very accurate as a portrayal of the battle. Just change a few names. Lord Clonfert is entirely made up, and of course, Maturin. The rest is spot on. (Jack Aubrey = Josias Rawley, the actual commander.)

2. We read The Lottery in HS, back in the 60s, in NY. My teacher completely missed on the pagan sacrifice aspect. My wife, OTOH, went to school in rural VA. Her teacher missed it too, but she says one of the guys asked "Were they having a drought that year?" Blew her teacher's mind.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:28 AM (ZbwAu)

178 Leigh Brackett started her file career writing on the screenplay for The Maltese Falcon, and ended with The Empire Strikes Back.
I knew her by reading her The Ginger Star trilogy which is about her principal protagonist, John Eric Stark, and his travels across the dying planet Skaith and its adapted and bred natives.

The Ginger Sun books are pretty much Barsoom books in world building, Skaith is a dying planet who's sun grows colder every century, and its seas have been drying up. It is a world of narrow tropical equatorial lands and seas, broad dry plains and frigid poles and mountains. The inhabitants are mostly like humans, and are slipping into barbarism from a high technological culture that had great abilities to shape themselves and other species to fit ecological niches: all of whom in their separate ecological roles become other than what they were. They mostly standard Skaith cultures go from the florid and corrupt states around the equatorial seas to the steppe nomads who have become fully raiding barbarians. All of whom kill strangers.

The modified Skaithians go from the ocean adapted ones who have devolved to become cannibals preying on the land-walkers who they butcher and eat in rites in ruined temples dedicated to the goddess of the sea, to the ones that live sealed away in caverns below the mountains who devote themselves to study of the ancient technology. The modified animals include the psychic hounds that kill by projecting their thoughts of terror and loss on their victims.

Stark was raised by the ape-like natives on Mercury, where he was orphaned and lost as an infant, where he learned to become tough and resilient as a child, and inured to deprivation, thirst and pain. He was taught to be human by an explorer, Clark Ashton, a great souled man who he considers his father. Stark went to Skaith to be part of the work to try to move some of the Skaith population to a world that was not doomed. He became separated from the embassy and had to travel across Skaith to be rescued. The Trilogy is about his travels across Skaith to rescue himself.

Link in my nick

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (xG/b0)

179 btw:

a few minutes ago it was 10/20/10:20

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (Pg+x7)

180 I just finished "Throne of Bones" by Vox, the first in the Arts of Dark and Light series.

It was hard getting into at first. It reads as a alt-history of the roman legion in the beginning but then picks up speed. A sword and sorcery genre with the requisite dwarves, elves, wizards, etc... but in a more realistic setting revolving around a proxy for Rome and the Catholic Church. Intrigue in the Senate and the church magisterium, vassal states rebelling all while an evil menace rises.

I liked it enough to get the next in the series.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 10:29 AM (l6b3d)

181 "file career" should be film career

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (xG/b0)

182 ... one more chance tonight for the last 10/20/10:20.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Pg+x7)

183 OK, it's time for some tea and perhaps writing. Or a nap. Or a day drinking into insensibility. Who knows?

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ki5SV)

184 And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:31 AM (U7k5w)

185 I'm reading _The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard_, an anthology of, well, what it says on the cover.

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I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (+y/Ru)

186 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

I got through it, but it was a bit of a slog, mostly because the writing was sophomoric. It's a nice idea, executed not too well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (wYseH)

187 ... 10-22.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (Pg+x7)

188 My email should be in my nic

When ya click da link, ya get a 404 not found

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (arJlL)

189 I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

It was available on Prime, not sure if it still is. Also available is One Step Beyond, a true supernatural series on about the same time as the original Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

190 150 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist..For instance, he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in fact.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

Of course, we all know that's nonsense.
Posted by: Google at October 20, 2019 10:13 AM (jjpZH)
_________

IMO, the free markets of classic economics are like the frictionless universe of classical physics. Instructive, and a model which tells a lot of truth, but ultimately unreal.

Even if we had Rothbard, Friedman, and Hayek write up a constitution and laws for the republic, there'd still be crooked enforcers, and crooked companies subverting it.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:34 AM (ZbwAu)

191 I got through it, but it was a bit of a slog, mostly because the writing was sophomoric. It's a nice idea, executed not too well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2019 10:32 AM (wYseH)

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Read it way back in my youth and really liked it.

But, again, yout's aren't necessarily the most discerning when it comes to writing.

Though, even at a yout, the book definitely came under the heading of, "Read it once, that's good enough" category.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 20, 2019 10:35 AM (WEBkv)

192 I wasn't reading YA stuff in the 70s and 80s but it
sounds like "you can't trust adults and their values". (Western values).
Sort of an intensification of "don't trust anyone over thirty" from the
Hippies.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:22 AM (bmdz3)

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It's funny how currents in the popular culture can pass you right by. I didn't read sci-fi or fantasy growing up, moving directly into military history from Dr. Seuss. At first I liked the big picture books and would read the photo captions, then I'd get into the text.

The Flying Tigers was one of my first paperbacks (bought through the school book sale - imagine that today!) and that got me hooked on pilots - Fly for Your Life, Reach for the Sky, To War in a Stringbag, The Dam Busters, etc.

Kinda missed the YA genre entirely.

I remember in high school a bunch of the girls toting around V.C. Andrews' Flowers in the Attic and giggling about it, but they wouldn't tell us guys what was in it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)

193 189 I've been watching Thriller with Boris Karloff on MeTV, a horror anthology series, and quite enjoying it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

It was available on Prime, not sure if it still is. Also available is One Step Beyond, a true supernatural series on about the same time as the original Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

Both are available on youtube

Posted by: josephistan at October 20, 2019 10:37 AM (Izzlo)

194 (... 10-22 = take no further action; disregard.)

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 10:38 AM (Pg+x7)

195 "The Lottery" has been spooking students for decades. I read it in junior high in the mid-60s and the sacrificial, pagan feeling leaped off the pages. That was part of the horror: it had gone on for so long what started as murderous superstition had become acceptable ritual carried out for no actual reason and therefore with no appeal.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

196 "true supernatural"

Posted by: Blutarski at October 20, 2019 10:33 AM (VNfwt)

the best kind

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (X/Pw5)

197 And not a Navy guy at all, but yes, they still turn into the wind to get lift on the planes at launching from catapults.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2019 10:18 AM


And also speed up the ship to maximize the wind coming over the bow. Every little bit helps.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (DMUuz)

198 Orwell was a big factor in turning me off of/to pop fiction.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (RuIsu)

199 153
In Herodotus I've reached the point where Xerxes is bearing down on
Greece and a lot of people are saying we preemptively surrender rather
than being wiped out. Xerxes, at least how he's portrayed, would often
seem weirdly benevolent toward people you'd think he'd be prone to
crushing; but that's not exactly a good way to live.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

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Classical tyrants valued their reputations for cleverness and honesty. They would also offer mercy when it was in their interest to appear benevolent.

Thus, having lost a round to a fierce warrior people, it was completely in character to praise their courage, offer them a prize position in your own command structure but remind them that further resistance would result in total destruction.

You only need a few examples of both extremes to make the point, and honestly having hardasses fighting for you is a better deal.

For one thing, it makes the whole "divide and rule" thing easier. The more diverse and disparate tribes personally loyal only to you, the better.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (cfSRQ)

200 And of course now even the profs are afraid to teach lest they get reported for wrongthink.

Very sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:00 AM (cfSRQ

My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this. I shudder to imagine SJW microbiology or physiology, but I see that "sustainable energy" is already a sort of major at Princeton, so who knows.

Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.

Even in the 70s, most MSU students were herded into ATL and Hums which could be breeding grounds for group think. The honors college gave you permission to pick and choose, I took real literature classes rather than ATL and real European history rather than "humanities". If I ruled academia, those herd classes would be abolished

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (U7k5w)

201 A comment on The Godfather got me thinking. I never read the book but it is one of the few movies I've heard people say was as good or better than the book.

Almost every movie made based on a book I've read has been a huge disappointment. I was thinking about my top two disappointments and came up with The Lords of Discipline and The Legend of Bagger Vance.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (2DOZq)

202 The other mystery I've just reread is Michael Gilbert's Killing of Katie Steelstock (aka Death of a Favorite Girl). I'm a big Gilbert fan - I've recommended him here - but this might be his worst. (There are 2 set in the Alps which are also below par.)

He breaks faith with the reader, violating basic principles of fair play mysteries. The ending is extremely forced, with an out of the hat solution, not something you could reasonably figure out. Since I'd read it before, I payed close attention to clues about the real murderer. They aren't there. The most I can say is that there are things consistent with the ending, but no indicators.

Also, both the community it happens in, and the courtroom scenes are below his usual standard. The one good thing in it is a portrait of an emotionally disturbed leftist.

So I'm now rereading his Death Has Deep Roots, which if not his best, is certainly his most typical book.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM (ZbwAu)

203 Ok, in the last 2 weeks, I read "Juiced" by Jose Canseco.

I never liked him, and I like him even less after reading da book.

He comes across as more than a little whiny, and quite proud of himself for having introduced steroids to MLB.

One good thing: at the beginning of each chapter, there is a quote about Canseco by someone else.

Near the end is a quote by Letterman : " If you're a baseball purist like me, you know the season doesn't really begin until Jose Canseco gets arrested".

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:43 AM (arJlL)

204 I saw Translucent Negligee open for Mighty Thews back in 88

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 09:34 AM (G546f)


Ahem, phrasing.

Oh wait, maybe you wrote it that way intentionally, just to be naughty.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:44 AM (jjpZH)

205 I read 1984 in high school. The idea that Winston's TV watched him, that there was nowhere he could escape the surveillance of the state, really bothered me.

Fast forward to 2019 and Iphones and Google....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (d6Ksn)

206 Then I read Bo Knows Bo by Bo Jackson and Dick Schapp.

And it was a welcome change from whiny Canseco.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

207 [Canseco] comes across as more than a little whiny, and quite proud of himself for having introduced steroids to MLB.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:43 AM (arJ


Say what?

Posted by: Barry Bonds at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (jjpZH)

208
For one thing, it makes the whole "divide and rule" thing easier. The more diverse and disparate tribes personally loyal only to you, the better.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:41 AM (cfSRQ)

And we're seeing divide and conquer with "diversity" here, IMO. The melting pot is being exchanged for a tribal mosaic for exactly that reason.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:46 AM (U7k5w)

209 We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end
of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist.


Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

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A lot of otherwise sensible leftists can't fully cross over because they can't get past the problems they see with capitalism.

I think it really boils down to a lack of religion, or fully understanding human nature, particularly original sin. If you reject that, and think that sure, we're smart and *should* be able to build a just society, you never stop hoping that someone will figure it out.

So you focus on monopolies, or greed, or profit and completely ignore that socialism incorporates all of these, just in a more hidden way.

Plus, since you don't believe in redemption, you can claim virtue by believing in something superior to everyone else, regardless of whether it works.

Thus, Orwell could write well and often about Stalin's crimes, police states and so on, but he could never quite bring himself to understand that the left ultimately had no solution for the problems he pinned on the right.

The right didn't, either, because there is no solution on this side of immortality. A lot of people can't understand that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cfSRQ)

210 What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

When I was a teen, my favorite fiction writers were probably Conan Doyle and Saki. And Lewis Carroll. And they're still up there.

It's true I no longer read Hornblower novels, but that's only because O'Brian is so much better.

Anyone else read Kirk's Creature of the Twilight? Not great, but a lot of fun.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (ZbwAu)

211 Then I read Bo Knows Bo by Bo Jackson and Dick Schapp.

And it was a welcome change from whiny Canseco.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

I think Bo could have been the Decathlon record holder for a century if that is what he pursued. But I really like him because he is an archery enthusiast.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

212 Ahem, phrasing.

Oh wait, maybe you wrote it that way intentionally, just to be naughty.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:44 AM (jjpZH)


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Sez the guy who put the pre-fapping chick at the top of the thread...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:48 AM (cfSRQ)

213 210 What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

==

it's a marketing thing
a lot of the books are actually aimed at 30-40 year old women

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM (G546f)

214 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM


It's creeping into engineering, too.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM (DMUuz)

215 Next on my to-read list - Anne Tyler's VINEGAR GIRL, a retelling of Shakespeare's The Taming Of The Shrew. This is one of the Hogarth Shakespeare series. I enjoyed the Jo Nesbo's MACBETH and waiting for Gillian Flynn's retelling of HAMLET.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (Bk5Q+)

216 91 "Fathers and Sons: the Autobiography of a Family," by Alexander Waugh.

Evelyn's grandson. Fourth generation man of letters, & guess what? He can WRITE.
Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)

So glad you posted this. I was trying to remember the title "Brideshead Revisited" a little earlier and, poof, you mention Waugh. Whew.

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (GJ5tO)

217 Nobody knows Bo like I do.

Posted by: Peep at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (DMUuz)

218 Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

Now, my HS teacher delved into the idea of human sacrifice during the reading of this work, sometimes without an obvious connection. I agree that the horror of Jackson's story is that people were doing it without a real reason, long after a connection to pagan gods.

I think western culture is partially moving back towards a pagan culture, and I find that even more horrifying.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (U7k5w)

219 And we're seeing divide and conquer with "diversity"
here, IMO. The melting pot is being exchanged for a tribal mosaic for
exactly that reason.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:46 AM (U7k5w)

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To an extent, but a lot of policy is currently driven by people too stupid to even know what will happen next.

You can go mad trying to figure out an inner logic or cunning conspiracy when sheer idiocy is the most likely cause.

Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

220 My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this.

Accounting has its methodological order to it that makes it attractive to logical types. Then you have to start assigning values to intangible things like Goodwill...

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)

221 Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 10:50 AM (Bk5Q+)

The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

222 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:53 AM (U7k5w)

223 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

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I went to high school with one of the actresses in that movie. Oddly, I've never gotten around to actually watching it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)

224 Sez the guy who put the pre-fapping chick at the top of the thread...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:48 AM (cfSRQ)


You may not believe this, but the reason that painting caught my eye was the girl's hair. It made me wonder what the artist had to do, what brushstrokes or whatever, to get it to look like that.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (jjpZH)

225 "Young Adult" fiction is what we call "Children's books" when teenagers read them.

Seriously: look at older "children's books" like Dr. Dolittle or The Wind in the Willows -- or The Hobbit! They're VASTLY more sophisticated both in writing and themes than these bloated soap-opera YA series published today.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (DYSh2)

226 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (E2dMO)

227 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)

Yet a bit more history could help here. We should be reading about how collectivism was forced on people, instead we're seeing little coverage of what Venezuela has become in the name of justice.

When the news is suppressed for political ends, it can be difficult NOT to see a guiding hand.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)

228 "My husband taught in the business school, and accounting and finance are at least partially immune from this. I shudder to imagine SJW microbiology or physiology..."

So... I teach microbiology.

Imagine the horror on the little boogers faces when
I describe how the person I know, who "became"
a girl (testosterone shots and "top surgery"),

...and left the "bottom" intact.

But no one notified the E. coli

As it Turns out, testosterone and a female reproductive tract
are a prescription for unrelenting urinary tract infections.

heh.

"It's science, bitches!" ~Jesse Pinkman.

heh. Pinkman. get it?
I'll be here all week. try the veal.

Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (cprte)

229 Needed a break from reading so I'm listening to some podcasts.

OM, maybe have a thread on interesting podcasts sometime?

Thanks for all you do!

Hugs.

Posted by: mpfs at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (79p/O)

230 209

Plus, since you don't believe in redemption, you can claim virtue by believing in something superior to everyone else, regardless of whether it works.

Thus, Orwell could write well and often about Stalin's crimes, police states and so on, but he could never quite bring himself to understand that the left ultimately had no solution for the problems he pinned on the right.

The right didn't, either, because there is no solution on this side of immortality. A lot of people can't understand that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cfSRQ)
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I don't think "claim virtue" is fair in Orwell's case. Others yes, but he was pretty free of that.

And he sort of admitted that the left had, as yet, no solutions. But he couldn't shake his faith that there MUST be a solution in democratic socialism. (He says that in several essays.)

Another weak spot in his arguments is that he often put a lot of emphasis on the way the world was headed. That's another reason he rejects Hayek. But in fact, he saw, in other contexts, that things could change rapidly. E.g., when writing about James Burnham.

Of course he was strongly anti-Christian, especially anti-Catholic. But he never seems to have even tried to understand the philosophical arguments. It's always on a level of popular piety and on it's (perceived) social effects. A lot of this comes out in his review of Winwood Reade's Martyrdom of Man. And his very frequent - and sometimes sympathetic - comments on Chesterton and Waugh. (He was grossly unfair to Ronald Knox, though. Misread him completely.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (ZbwAu)

231 it's a beautiful painting, OM

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (G546f)

232 I hate Nike and their Leni Riefenstahl, Shelton Lee, but the Bo Knows commercials were hilarious. I still watch them online for a laugh.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

233 226 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (E2dMO)

I hate this with enough rage to poison a metropolis. On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (U7k5w)

234 Before that, I read One Good Deed by David Baldacci.

GREAT story, GREAT characters, GREAT plot.

Which brings me to the ending.

..........WHADYACALLIT ALERT !..........

I'm gonna tell ya the ending......

The story was set in the Late'40's-early '50's

And a dead guy on a dictaphone confessed to the 3 murders !

WHAT a LUCKING FETDOWN !

So all you authors and would-be authors take note here....

If you're writing a story and you're stuck for an ending.....

Just pull a dead guy and a dictphone outta yer ass and you'll be all set !

(I've been watching Rickles on YouTube of late. Does it show ?)

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (arJlL)

235 You may not believe this, but the reason that
painting caught my eye was the girl's hair. It made me wonder what the
artist had to do, what brushstrokes or whatever, to get it to look like
that.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:54 AM (jjpZH)

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I believe you, and I also know that my statement is not incompatible with your explanation.

An old friend of mine was severely turned on by long, flowing hair. As men are wont to do, we'd reminisce about exes and such and he'd tell about some girl or other, comment on all the things that drove him nuts about her and how it was never going to work out, but then he'd pause.

"Her hair, however, was exquisite."

You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)

236
Accounting has its methodological order to it that makes it attractive to logical types. Then you have to start assigning values to intangible things like Goodwill...


Ugh.

I was writing banking consulting software prior to the RTC closing down most of the Savings & Loans.

These S&Ls were vanity tax dodges. Many had art as assets and the "Goodwill" column always had huge numbers relative to anything else.

Big play for TX oil and cattle men.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (lD3vL)

237 225 "Young Adult" fiction is what we call "Children's books" when teenagers read them.

==

some is, but mixed in are a lot of books you REALLY don't want your teen reading

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (G546f)

238 Unprecedented prosperity causes people to do dumb things because they don't understand how quickly things can go south.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cfSRQ)


Right, and there's actually a counseling service you can get to online, I think it's called The Sudden Money Institute, that helps people who have won the lottery, or come into an inheritance, or an insurance settlement, etc., to help them manage their new wealth.

There are lots of sad case histories you can read about, people who were suddenly millions of dollars richer, and then p*ssed it all away.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (jjpZH)

239 So, I just swung by and wrote an email to Tulsi, explaining how super awesome she is, and how she's the only hope to upset the corrupt apple cart that is the Dem party, in much the same way as Trump has done in the GOP.

And how, if they're going to freeze her out and call her a Russian bot, then she SHOULD make a third-party run to teach them a lesson.

Hopefully I've done my small part to feed her towering ego, and to rub salt in her wounded pride.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (5aX2M)

240 218 Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 10:40 AM (bmdz3)

Now, my HS teacher delved into the idea of human sacrifice during the reading of this work, sometimes without an obvious connection. I agree that the horror of Jackson's story is that people were doing it without a real reason, long after a connection to pagan gods.

I think western culture is partially moving back towards a pagan culture, and I find that even more horrifying.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:51 AM (U7k5w)
_______

C S Lewis thought that pagansm would be better than where we are headed. He said he'd be more optimistic if a garlanded white bull were sacrificed at the opening of Parliament. We know we can convert people like that. He saw something worse coming.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (ZbwAu)

241 134 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

That's just wonderful!

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (GJ5tO)

242 Imagine the horror on the little boogers faces when
I describe how the person I know, who "became"
a girl (testosterone shots and "top surgery"),

...and left the "bottom" intact.

But no one notified the E. coli

As it Turns out, testosterone and a female reproductive tract
are a prescription for unrelenting urinary tract infections.


heh. Pinkman. get it?
I'll be here all week. try the veal.
Posted by: retropox, AOL Booklegger at October 20, 2019 10:55 AM (cprte)

I'd like to see this stopped too. Doctors and APNs who write for this bullshit should lose their licenses. Telling a male he can become a female is a straight out lie and malpractice.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

243 there's also some great fantasy and sf marketed as YA

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (G546f)

244 I love good podcasts.
My faves are
Dennis Miller
John Batchelor

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (w7KSn)

245 There are lots of sad case histories you can read about, people who were suddenly millions of dollars richer, and then p*ssed it all away.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (jjpZH)

Navin Johnson comes to mind.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (X/Pw5)

246 I hate this with enough rage to poison a metropolis. On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

Just put down XX or XY based on how God originally configured you.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (lD3vL)

247 210 ... "What exactly is "Young Adults'" fiction supposed to mean? Why is it a thing?

When I was a teen, my favorite fiction writers were probably Conan Doyle and Saki. And Lewis Carroll."

I assume the age group for young adult is teenage and it wasn't enough to read literature like Sherlock Holmes. The stories had to be about them and all their teen angst, which they think (I use the word 'think' loosely) is the most important matter in the world. It allows these youngsters (NOT adults) to indulge every self-centered, egotistical sense of self-importance. Add in the sexy aspects and they consider themselves adults, which they aren't. It's like the 13 year old girl who thinks because she needs a bra and shaves that she is now a woman.

Mini-rant off.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (bmdz3)

248 Hopefully I've done my small part to feed her towering ego, and to rub salt in her wounded pride.

They won't read it unless its written on the back of a depositable cheque.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (lD3vL)

249 You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)


Heh. Hair and eyes, actually, I'm completely indifferent about shoes.

In fact, I've gotten so many negative comments about the Friday shoe pr0n that I'm thinking of dropping it. I just don't have an eye for what the 'ettes like.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (jjpZH)

250 You like hair and shoes. Fair enough.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)
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Who doesn't like hair?

Posted by: Joey B. at October 20, 2019 11:02 AM (iB1oa)

251 I enjoyed the Jo Nesbo's MACBETH and waiting for Gillian Flynn's retelling of HAMLET.


The one with Phil Silvers where they did HAMLET is my favorite episode of GILLIAN FLYNN'S ISLAND.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (oVJmc)

252 That painting of the little girl caught up in her book is lovely. Thanks, OM.

On the other hand, 'these pants' make me think of a long pants diaper. Thisis not a good look.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (bmdz3)

253 Of course he was strongly anti-Christian, especially
anti-Catholic. But he never seems to have even tried to understand the
philosophical arguments. It's always on a level of popular piety and on
it's (perceived) social effects. A lot of this comes out in his review
of Winwood Reade's Martyrdom of Man. And his very frequent - and
sometimes sympathetic - comments on Chesterton and Waugh. (He was
grossly unfair to Ronald Knox, though. Misread him completely.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (ZbwAu)

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Even otherwise thoughtful Brits still seem to have a hangup about Catholicism.

I watch a fair bit of British cinema, particularly period pieces. It's almost a requirement that whenever a Catholic character is identified, self-flagellation must then follow.

My wife and I laugh out loud now whenever we see it, because it's transparent bigotry but if confronted, I'm certain none of the producers or crew would find anything wrong with it. Orwell is of that world. Can't help it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (cfSRQ)

254 A comment on The Godfather got me thinking. I never read the book but it is one of the few movies I've heard people say was as good or better than the book.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM


Coppola justifiably cut out two sub-plots: the sex life of the bridesmaid Sonny was screwing, and Johnny Fontane's relationships.

The only scenes I wish he had included are 1) the two college boys who ruined Bonasera's daughter getting turned into hamburger by an ex-boxer; the backstory for Neri.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:04 AM (r6GXX)

255 In fact, I've gotten so many negative comments about the Friday shoe pr0n that I'm thinking of dropping it. I just don't have an eye for what the 'ettes like.

Whoa 1

Why not ask the 'Ettes ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)

256 On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."


==

I'd write something in different alphabet (maybe look up something in Korean) and act all offended if I get questions

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (G546f)

257 C S Lewis thought that pagansm would be better than where we are headed. He said he'd be more optimistic if a garlanded white bull were sacrificed at the opening of Parliament. We know we can convert people like that. He saw something worse coming.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (ZbwAu)


Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s. Nobody listened to him. I always wonder if he ever felt like Cassandra, cursed by the gods to have absolute perfect knowledge of the future, and to be believed by nobody.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:07 AM (jjpZH)

258 The girl reading actually resembles Mrs Eeyore. Well, much younger.

She reads like lightning, so she can read modern popular books. I've given that up entirely.

(God my arm hurts. I bragged months ago about finding out I was not inclined to opiate addiction. Good thing I left many pills in the vial. I'm using them now. The only "good' feeling is still the lessening of pain.)

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:07 AM (ZbwAu)

259 Whoa 1

Why not ask the 'Ettes ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)


I have! But I've received scant response.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:08 AM (jjpZH)

260 I'd like to see this stopped too. Doctors and APNs
who write for this bullshit should lose their licenses. Telling a male
he can become a female is a straight out lie and malpractice.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

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My daughter didn't respond well to conventional narcolepsy medication. We tried it all, nothing worked.

Nicotine did, though. So we tried to get this prescribed. Oh no, no way in hell! That's off-label use! Forbidden!

Yet the "puberty blockers" are also off-label and no one bats an eye.

I get the sense that all those mesothelioma lawyer ads will be replaced with puberty blocker ones. Too much money just sitting there.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (cfSRQ)

261 Some Moron recommended the Bernie Gunther novels of Philip Kerr so I'm reading the first, March Violets. Gunther is a former "bull" of the Berlin Kripo, Kriminalpolezei, who resigned and became a private investigator when he became unpopular with his superiors for being insufficiently pro-Hitler. The term March Violets refers to those who became fanatically party members after Hitler's rise to power, particularly those who acquire phony early party membership numbers marking them as Alter Kaempfer which is very good for appointment to powerful government positions. Set in Berlin in 1936, Gunther becomes involved in a double murder, arson, theft which implicates the power struggle between the old wealth and the new order. One of the intriguing style points is his use of criminal slang which makes the prose colorful but can cause some confusion. For example, a U-Boat is a fugitive who has gone underground. I'm quite enjoying it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (+y/Ru)

262 IMO, Edgar Rice Burroughs is a young adult author as well as Rudyard Kipling.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

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I liked that movie with Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger and the soundtrack too.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (Bk5Q+)

264 Tolle Lege
Late to this party but my gutters are all cleaned out.

Slowly moving along on both books I'm reading, 100 Days from Patrick O'Brien and With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, both Napoleonic era books.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (ZCEU2)

265 I'd write something in different alphabet (maybe look up something in Korean) and act all offended if I get questions
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (G546f)

That's good! Needless to say, I skipped their YK services and went to a service where we individually raced through the prayers and heard a sermon about fear and bravery, and how they were not separate. The rabbi called servicemen brave, the one at the other place would have maligned them

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)

266 And he sort of admitted that the left had, as yet, no solutions. But he couldn't shake his faith that there MUST be a solution in democratic socialism. (He says that in several essays.)

Yep.

Classic different understanding of human nature. The Calvinists see man as fallen, flawed and sinful and seeking unrighteousness constantly.

The rest of the world, despite millennia of evidence, believes that man is essentially good and can lift himself by his own bootstraps.

That is why our Founders said that a Constitutional Republic is only for a moral people and completely unsuitable for any other.

In other words, the Framers looked around, saw Presbyterians and figured it would be that demographic for ages, or they figured that they would be dead and gone before the Reprobates took over and destroyed everything.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (lD3vL)

267 I fully expect that we will see several murders by some of the kids "transitioned" early. Some, at least, will get back at those who did this to them.

And if I were on the jury, they might get off.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (ZbwAu)

268 You may not believe this, but the reason that painting caught my eye was the girl's hair.

Speaking of hair, I was at a crowded flea market and got stuck behind a white guy with dreadlocks and maaaaan, did his hair STINK !

I thought briefly of performing a public service by setting his hair on fire, but instead moved quickly away.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (arJlL)

269 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM

It's creeping into engineering, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM


No way!

Posted by: Florida International University bridge designers at October 20, 2019 11:12 AM (r6GXX)

270 Greetings:

I'm currently reading "Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy 1945-1975" by Max Hastings and can recommend it highly especially for next-gens with the interest and time to go through its 700+ pages (at about 20pp per hour pour moi).

The author keeps his British-ness under control and his bits of progressive troth plighting (and where would we be these days without such) seem both perfunctory and inconsequential. He's a bit gentle on the anti-war/draft movement in America but is clear on the failures of the media, military brass, and politicians.

He only goes into depth on a couple of battles but his sub-chapter on "Fieldcraft" (pp 392 ff) tracks so closely with my own experience that I can recommend those pages highly. The author and I seem to disagree greatly about the M-16 as an infantry weapon but as my favorite Platoon sergeant told us, "The basic combat load is 22 magazines. We hump 29." And Charlie humps a handful or less.

I was unfamiliar with the author but plan to read his "The Secret War" soon.


Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (evgyj)

271 On the High Holidays we were presented with name tags on which to write our pronouns. I wrote "If you can't figure that out...."

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"If you can read this name tag, you're invading my personal space."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

272 These S&Ls were vanity tax dodges. Many had art as assets and the "Goodwill" column always had huge numbers relative to anything else.

Big play for TX oil and cattle men.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 10:58 AM (lD3vL)


When I was wasting my work life at a third rate electric utility, I wasn't a bean counter per se but understood accounting enough to understand the chicanery that was being pulled. I really respected Arthur Anderson for refusing to sign off on their books until they stopped larding up assets with non cash revenue while building a nuke so they could keep increasing dividends to gull the rubes. When Arthur was the fall guy for Enron I figured that was a crooked outcome, which Sidney Powell subsequently confirmed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:14 AM (y7DUB)

273 263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)


And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jjpZH)

274
Why not ask the 'Ettes ?
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:06 AM (arJlL)

I have! But I've received scant response.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

Whoa !

Mebbe post pics of scantily clad male bodybuilders wearing women's shoes.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (arJlL)

275 Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s.

Don't forget Francis Schaeffer in that list.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (lD3vL)

276 Any Morons interested in these books let me know
Posted by: josephistan

I'm interested, but da link in yer nic don't work !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (arJlL)

277 That's good! Needless to say, I skipped their YK
services and went to a service where we individually raced through the
prayers and heard a sermon about fear and bravery, and how they were
not separate. The rabbi called servicemen brave, the one at the other
place would have maligned them

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)

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Our parish has taken a strong turn back to orthodoxy. Part of the reason is the scandals in the Church, and our pastor decided to harass one of the other priests. (Nothing criminal, no other allegations, but he's been removed from ministry.)

Interestingly, that same pastor used to hold a talk on sex for the college kids, nominally answering questions about Catholic doctrine, but it has a more sinister aspect in retrospect.

The younger priests seem much more assertive on doctrine. It's nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (cfSRQ)

278 Damn. Belgian kids studying in a library. What a novel concept. Also probably thinking of get some now in the stacks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (C1Lsn)

279 I'm tempted to pick up the Madison book mentioned above, but I've noticed something about my reading. There are books recommended here, and they sound both interesting and useful.

However...

Sometimes when I get into them I realize it's not the book for me. There are just some subjects that, while it would be good for me to get into them, I don't need to get THAT far into them.

I doubt that would be the case with the Madison book, but it is with, for example, some of the war books. I'm a big picture guy with war, and when I get into the details of this battle or that, I find my interest waning. So I'll put that book down, probably never to be opened again.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (hku12)

280 >>175 Everyone brags about Lucifer's Hammer but I can't get started. Read the first couple of chapters at least 3x .

Footfall is a better Niven-Pournelle collaboration, better pacing, more interesting characters, more of a novel setting, yet similar to hammer.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (l6b3d)

281 269 Engineering and science should still be safe, but there is probably no way around general ed indoctrination.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 10:42 AM

It's creeping into engineering, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 20, 2019 10:49 AM

No way!
Posted by: Florida International University bridge designers at October 20, 2019 11:12 AM (r6GXX)
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Way.

Look at climate scientists. And look at the biology of sex differences.

Orwell wrote about this, too. Scientific objectivity will be tolerate only so far as it is useful to the rulers. 2 + 2 = 4 is seen as "true" only so far as it is useful in things like building bridges. And no farther. This is Pragmatism 101.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (ZbwAu)

282 I get the sense that all those mesothelioma lawyer ads will be replaced with puberty blocker ones. Too much money just sitting there.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:09 AM (cfSRQ)

And I think attorneys can logically go after the prescribers and the parents for criminal abuse. No child can foresee or truly appreciate the side effects and horror of these medications and surgeries.

A couple from my husband's bridge circle have a 15yo adopted daughter who had a top surgery. She allegedly hated her body and cried a lot. Any female on testosterone will hate her body and have mood swings. And I just don't recall too many 15yo girls who adored the way they looked, especially after the 60s and Twiggy. The couple are proud of their actions, but I think they belong in jail. I wonder how the kid is digging those suture lines? Monsters.

As I have mentioned for months, this gender crap helped me to early retirement. We were about to be forced into adopting programs to assist "transitioning" people. Retirement was my "you can't make me" solution.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (U7k5w)

283 I just finished "Throne of Bones"

I read that as "Throne of Boners"

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (arJlL)

284 Godfather I and II were real ground breakers. The movies were actually better than the book, particularly II. And also not following tradition, the sequel II was better than the first I.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (mpXpK)

285
And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jj
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The one at that took place at Elsinore Brewery? You think?

Mel Blanc swearing at the boys was a hoot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (cfSRQ)

286 GWTW movie was better than the book too.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

287 And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM


South Park with Phillip doing Hamlet's final scene: (remove spaces)

https://southpark.cc.com/ clips/104213/ venom-to-thy-work-buddy

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (r6GXX)

288 273 263 The movie , Ten Things I Hate About You is a modern retelling of The Taming of the Shrew. Decent teen movie.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

And the movie 'Strange Brew' ("take off, eh?") is a retelling of Hamlet.

All of our stories are footnotes to Shakespeare.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:15 AM (jjpZH)
___________

Clueless came from Jane Austin.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (ZbwAu)

289 286
GWTW movie was better than the book too.


Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

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Other examples:

Last of the Mohicans
Jaws
M*A*S*H

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

290 You have to skim the first two chapters of Lucifer's Hammer, then settle down and read the rest.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (mpXpK)

291 Footfall is a better Niven-Pournelle collaboration, better pacing, more interesting characters, more of a novel setting, yet similar to hammer.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 20, 2019 11:17 AM (l6b3d)
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Fun fact: "Footfall" is the book N and P wanted to write in the '70 s, but their publisher didn't like the alien invasion aspect. So they recast it as a survival novel.

Posted by: Joey B. at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (iB1oa)

292 Vlad wrote a book of lecture notes, and this was subsequently done in Pale Fire. I just don't feel he pulled it off that successfully.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)


I should introduce you to my mother CH. She was a student of Nabokov in college, and still has some of her own lecture notes from her two classes with him. As a general matter, as I recall, he was unbelievably detailed in his plotting. For example, in discussing Dickens Bleak House, Vlad designed models of all the principal rooms in which repetitive action played out, like he was blocking a play.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (NVYyb)

293 Off hair-sniffing sock.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 11:21 AM (iB1oa)

294 I have never read the books for Mash (Catch-22) or Jaws so I could not say.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 11:21 AM (mpXpK)

295 On puberty blockers: Lupron is commonly used for prostate cancer and endometriosis, it is not for kids. I have seen it used to try to preserve fertility in some female chemo patients, but giving it to children to make them girlish is depraved.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (U7k5w)

296 I think Jaws is a wash. I'm glad they left out the sex /affair out of the movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

297 I think Bo could have been the Decathlon record holder for a century if that is what he pursued. But I really like him because he is an archery enthusiast.
Posted by: Easy Andy

His first match as a high school wrestler, he was grappling and winning and his opponent pinched him.

And Bo body slammed him and got penalized by the ref.

They went at it again, and his opponent pinched him AGAIN and Bo pile drove his head into the canvas.

Bo was disqualified, and gave up wrestling.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:25 AM (arJlL)

298 'Alas Babylon' was part of our 10th grade reading assignments in Literature back in the '70s in Lake Worth, Fl. Worthwhile read, even today.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:26 AM (RcMUX)

299 286 GWTW movie was better than the book too.
Posted by: Vic

disagree

Princess Bride, OTOH...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (G546f)

300 Greetings:

I'm currently reading "Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy 1945-1975" by Max Hastings and can recommend it highly especially for next-gens with the interest and time to go through its 700+ pages (at about 20pp per hour pour moi).

The author keeps his British-ness under control and his bits of progressive troth plighting (and where would we be these days without such) seem both perfunctory and inconsequential. He's a bit gentle on the anti-war/draft movement in America but is clear on the failures of the media, military brass, and politicians.

He only goes into depth on a couple of battles but his sub-chapter on "Fieldcraft" (pp 392 ff) tracks so closely with my own experience that I can recommend those pages highly. The author and I seem to disagree greatly about the M-16 as an infantry weapon but as my favorite Platoon sergeant told us, "The basic combat load is 22 magazines. We hump 29." And Charlie humps a handful or less.

I was unfamiliar with the author but plan to read his "The Secret War" soon.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2019 11:13 AM (evgyj)


My thing is, with the anti-American bent of some writers, it's sorta like being pregnant. Either you are or you aren't, and if you are, I'm not interested in what you have to say.

Max is one of those guys with a big fat round belly showing.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (hku12)

301 Here's some Rosie and Bing - the title track from Fancy Meeting You Here.

https://tinyurl.com/y3bj9xm5
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2019 10:02 AM (Ki5SV)

That's just wonderful!

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Mrs. Wrecks is into The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel partly because of the period music. Incidentally, Tony Shalhoub plays the Jewish patriarch. It's common to see Jews portray gentiles (even Nazis) but unusual for a gentile to portray a Jew.

Speaking of Prime, the Russki WWII documentary series Soviet Storm is pretty good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

302 I have never read the books for Mash (Catch-22) or Jaws so I could not say.
Posted by: Vic

They were ALL good, but I agree with Andy, the affair of Mrs. Chief Brody was a downer.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (arJlL)

303 as i mentioned a few weeks ago, john nash's nobel prize in economics is coming up at auction (christie's, 10/25). it's a book sale that includes first editions of hammett, ian fleming, orwell, et al.

following the sale of nash's medal is reinhard selten's nobel prize. who? selten received the prize in economics for his contributions to game theory in 1994 along with nash! (a third recipient, john harsanyi also received the award). i don't remember the movie showing all three getting the award.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Pg+x7)

304 "Clark Ashton"? Nice call-out to the Xothique stories.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ykYG2)

305 289... "Last of the Mohicans
Jaws
M*A*S*H"

Boy, did you get that right. The movies were better than the books, especially the latest version of Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis.Jaws the book wasn't terrible but it was pretty formulaic and predictable.

The best thing about the book Last of the Mohicans is the hilarious lambasting Mark Twain gave it.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (bmdz3)

306 And if I were on the jury, they might get off.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:11 AM (ZbwAu

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Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just a Darwin award waiting to happen.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

307 303 as i mentioned a few weeks ago, john nash's nobel prize in economics is coming up at auction (christie's, 10/25). it's a book sale that includes first editions of hammett, ian fleming, orwell, et al.

following the sale of nash's medal is reinhard selten's nobel prize. who? selten received the prize in economics for his contributions to game theory in 1994 along with nash! (a third recipient, john harsanyi also received the award). i don't remember the movie showing all three getting the award.
Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Pg+x7)

Nash's son must need the money. He is, unlike the character in the movie, sicker than his father ever was.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (U7k5w)

308 Where's Eris ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (arJlL)

309 Where's Bluebell ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (arJlL)

310 Where's Weasel ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (arJlL)

311 They were ALL good, but I agree with Andy, the affair of Mrs. Chief Brody was a downer.
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:27 AM (arJlL)

back in the 70s, rutty slutty shameful sex was kind of a fad in bestseller paperbacks

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (G546f)

312 OT but I think many will enjoy.

This is my birthday, which means that it is also my twin brother's birthday. I am a person of little importance, but he is a warrior and a hero, and I want to celebrate him on our birthday by sharing one of his stories with men and women who will value it, and him.

When he was in Viet Nam, on one occasion he and his men were fairly near an ammo dump, which was under fire from the Viet Cong. They were at a safe distance so they merely watched. A colonel called my brother and told him there were nine men trapped in the dump, so not to fire on it if he could avoid it.

My brother said, "You can talk to them and I can't. Tell them I'll drive my jeep through the dump at top speed, turn and drive back. That should give them time to gather in the middle. I'll slow down there so they can jump on."

The colonel said, I wasn't asking that, but I'll tell the general. My brother said, Don't you dare, he won't let me do it.

He howled with laughter, describing how nine men piled on top of each other, clinging to every imaginable part of the jeep. He had to hold one onto the hood at an angle so he could see to drive, so he drove all the way back one-handed.

And he saved them all.

Happy birthday, Spike. God bless.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)

313 Where's Insomniac ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (arJlL)

314 I think Jaws is a wash. I'm glad they left out the sex /affair out of the movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

If Benchley had instead made a throuple out of Hooper, Mrs. Brody, and Chief Brody, the tag line would have been:
We're gonna need a bigger bed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2019 11:32 AM (5v5Zx)

315 Happy birthday Wenda and Spike!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (G546f)

316 Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just a Darwin award waiting to happen.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

They would completely deserve it, and the self-orphaned kids should inherit. Let's not forget that some of these sicko SJW parents are also spaying their daughters and giving them double mastectomies.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (U7k5w)

317 I just finished "Throne of Bones"
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I read that as "Throne of Boners"
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (arJlL)


*Writes that down*


Oh, who am I kidding. There shall be no more books coming from me.

Or boners.

Posted by: George RRRRRR Martin at October 20, 2019 11:33 AM (hku12)

318 307 cn: notes on the sale state proceeds go to the john nash trust. the sale also features original notes, theses and publications that also benefit the natl. alliance for mental illness.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 11:34 AM (Pg+x7)

319 If Benchley had instead made a throuple out of Hooper, Mrs. Brody, and Chief Brody, the tag line would have been:
We're gonna need a bigger bed.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2019 11:32 AM


Fun fact: "You're going to need a bigger boat" is not in the novel.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 20, 2019 11:34 AM (r6GXX)

320 312 ... Happy Birthday to you Wenda and to your brother. And thanks for the story. It made for some interesting images.

Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (bmdz3)

321 ]i]We have to accept that Orwell was, through the end
of his life, an avowed socialist, and an avowed leftist. It really comes
out if you read the 4 vol set of essays his wife edited. For instance,
he never gave up his belief that free markets will lead to monopoly, in
fact. And he did read and review Road to Serfdom; giving that as a
reason he didn't buy Hayek's argument.


Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (ZbwAu)

Mr Orwell still didn't understand the business cycle or the role of central banking in creating the boom-bust cycle.
Which is sad, because he had all the facts demonstrated to him in Spain

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (xG/b0)

322 Transvengeance: All in the Family

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

323 318: If you saw the son, you'd want him to get some cash. I'm hoping the trust helps him in some way. The family got nothing from that movie. Ron Howard and the studio were the beneficiaries.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (U7k5w)

324 I should introduce you to my mother CH. She was a student of Nabokov in college, and still has some of her own lecture notes from her two classes with him. As a general matter, as I recall, he was unbelievably detailed in his plotting. For example, in discussing Dickens Bleak House, Vlad designed models of all the principal rooms in which repetitive action played out, like he was blocking a play.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 11:20 AM (NVYyb)


Damn straight. Your mother was surely much more mature than I was at that age to appreciate what she was being exposed to, although I had a paltry few really good profs who piqued my interest to stimulate me to do more than sit in the back of the lecture hall rolling my eyes. I'm very envious.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (y7DUB)

325 Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)

Happy birthday to both you and your brother!

And thanks to your brother for his service.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (d6Ksn)

326 The ever proliferating cornucopia of genders and pronouns is building an even more fragile Tower of Babel.

Bad Analogy.

The Tower of Babel would have been successful sans Divine Intervention.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (lD3vL)

327 322 Transvengeance: All in the Family
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:36 AM (G546f)

It's hard for me to feel anything but sorrow and anger on behalf of the kids. If a stupid adult chooses this, ok, but parents are supposed to protect the kids not encourage mutilation for SJW aims.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (U7k5w)

328 Happy birthday Wenda and Spike!!!
Posted by: vmom happy

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (arJlL)

329 "throuple" makes me think of a thermocouple

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:38 AM (G546f)

330 The Tower of Babel would have been successful sans Divine Intervention.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:37 AM (lD3vL)
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That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me.

Posted by: Dr. Egon Spengler at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (iB1oa)

331 A library pic that actually has people in the library, looking at books. Unusual!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Red Reed read a good read at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (ECLlc)

332 316
Oh hell yeah. It's inevitable that one of these boys will eventually
hack up the parents who hacked him up... I wouldn't convict. That's just
a Darwin award waiting to happen.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

Sex change operations or permanent chemical treatments of any kind should be outlawed for anyone under the age of 25. I don't think these sicko SJW parents understand the gravity of what they are doing to their children or the potential horror they will unleash on the rest of society with these disfigured and damaged individuals. Sounds like something you'd see in Dr. Mengele's (sp?) labs....

I wouldn't convict either.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (RcMUX)

333 "throuple" makes me think of a thermocouple

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Hot! Hot! Hot!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)

334 And thanks to your brother for his service.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.

Yep !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (arJlL)

335 I have! But I've received scant response.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 11:08 AM (jjpZH)

The shoes I like and the shoes I can actually wear for more than 5 minutes these days are two different things.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (d6Ksn)

336 I'm sure Bluebell and Weasel, and many others, are traveling today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2019 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

337 I'm gonna try to get stuff done before the rain.

I'll check back later

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (arJlL)

338 Those who have read "The Epic Poem of Gilgamesh" will have surely noted many similarities with the Book of Genesis, as in:
A Great Flood
An Ark
The Tower of Babel
The Nephelim

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (w7KSn)

339 Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller...

"Davidson"? That's cheating!

Posted by: mindful webworker - what da vid? at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (ECLlc)

340 Note that all postapocalypse stories are essentially ripping off "By the Waters of Babylon" by Stephen Vincent Benet, published in 1937!

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2019 11:43 AM (DYSh2)

341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

342 And he saved them all.

Happy birthday, Spike. God bless.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 11:31 AM (H3c5F)


You are NOT a person of little importance!

I believe everyone has a purpose in this world, and your brother's, you have well documented here.

The challenge for all of us is to find our purpose, and one of yours, in a way that is VERY important, is to honor his actions, which you are doing quite well.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:44 AM (hku12)

343 Fifteen tales by David Weber, David Drake, Gregory Benford & David Brin, David B. Coe, D.J. Butler, Avram Davidson, David H. Keller...

"Davidson"? That's cheating!
Posted by: mindful webworker - what da vid? at October 20, 2019 11:42 AM (ECLlc)


Yeah! Get back to us when you get his dad's stuff.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (hku12)

344 341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

are you saying trannies can't have babies? that's hate speech dude!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (G546f)

345 Orwell was a human with both blind spots and sharp insights. He deserves great credit for his courage in confronting the horrors of Stalinism at a time when most intellectuals turned a blind eye to its' evil. Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

Nobody gets it right all the time - which is why reading widely is a good thing. You get a bit of wisdom from one writer, a bit of wisdom from someone else and so on - but no one person has a lock on The Truth.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (d6Ksn)

346 OT but while I'm on my soapbox - I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

And add another amendment limiting House of Representatives' salary to 2X median income in their district and no post-government pension, health insurance, security, etc.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (RcMUX)

347 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

are you saying trannies can't have babies? that's hate speech dude!
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 20, 2019 11:46 AM (G546f)


Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)

348 Sex change operations or permanent chemical treatments of any kind should be outlawed for anyone under the age of 25. I don't think these sicko SJW parents understand the gravity of what they are doing to their children or the potential horror they will unleash on the rest of society with these disfigured and damaged individuals. Sounds like something you'd see in Dr. Mengele's (sp?) labs....

I wouldn't convict either.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:40 AM (RcMUX)

I suspect that these sex change doctors are motivated by more than just money, although greed is certainly a factor. Like Mengele, they welcome the chance to hack up human beings and conduct their little experiments. The difference of course, is that Mengele's victims didn't give consent, whereas their victims pay for the "privilege" of being mutilated.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM (d6Ksn)

349 It's trannies all the way down.

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says... at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (EgshT)

350 AOC: We Must Nationalize American Society So We Can Have More Freedom

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We must learn to love the lash!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)

351 OT but while I'm on my soapbox - I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

And add another amendment limiting House of Representatives' salary to 2X median income in their district and no post-government pension, health insurance, security, etc.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 11:47 AM (RcMUX)


Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

352 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?

All my sentences were declarative.

Book related: Mrs. the B came home from the TxMoMe with a copy of The Deplorable Gourmet. Thank you whoever was responsible for that.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (qc+VF)

353 I'm currently re-reading the Jester/Fool's Guild series by Alan Gordon. The premise is that the jesters who served kings and princes in Medieval Europe were more than just entertainers, but were part of an organization that worked to promote peace and stability.

The first book is a sort of sequel to 12th night by Shakespeare, then it goes off from there in all sorts of directions. The books are consistently hilarious, entertaining, and packed with fascinating historical detail and likable characters. Despite the odd premise, it works very well and even makes sense the way its presented (and it even has faux historical notes in the back, as if Gordon has uncovered documentation of the Fool's Guild).

There are eight books in the series so far.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

354 Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

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PJ makes remarkable assessments of people. I recommend "Intellectuals" to all Morons. It does a great job of illustrating how our modern "giants" had feet, legs, torsos, arms and heads of clay. And by clay, I mean "poo."

Also, as an aside, he once said Robert Maxwell was so radiant with evil that he refused to be near him, and didn't even like being in the same room with him.

Given Ghislaine's proclivities, I can believe this is no exaggeration.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (5aX2M)

355 I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

Hear hear! It wrecked the role of the Senate and the Founders intentions, creating a six year term second House of Representatives. Mob rule FTL.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 11:54 AM (y7DUB)

356 The difference of course, is that Mengele's victims didn't give consent, whereas their victims pay for the "privilege" of being mutilated.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM (d6Ksn)


Funny thing about "informed consent" though, if the person is nuts on a shingle, it's not possible for them to give it.

So.....

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:54 AM (hku12)

357 Dr. Sowell:

"In a sense, proponents of "social justice" are unduly modest. What they are seeking to correct are not merely the deficiencies of society, but of the cosmos. What they call social justice encompasses far more than any given society is causally responsible for. Crusaders for social justice seek to correct not merely the sins of man but the oversights of God or the accidents of history. What they are really seeking is a universe tailor-made to their vision of equality. They are seeking cosmic justice.

Socially counterproductive policies are just one of the many costs of the quest for cosmic justice. The rule of law, on which a free society depends, is inherently incompatible with cosmic justice. Laws exist in all kinds of societies, from the freest to the most totalitarian. But the rule of law-- a government of laws and not of men, as it used to be called-- is rare and vulnerable. You cannot redress the myriad inequalities which pervade human life by applying the same rules to all or by applying any rules other than the arbitrary dispensations of those in power. The final chapter of The Quest for Cosmic Justice is titled "The Quiet Repeal of the American Revolution"-- because that is what is happening piecemeal by zealots devoted to their own particular applications of cosmic justice."

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (Ndje9)

358 Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

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Assuming they made meaningful cuts, they'd all be billionaires.

Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (5aX2M)

359 347
Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)
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That's on the menu. Count on it.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (ZbwAu)

360 Great posts with great information. Long, long time lurker and this is only my second comment. Back in the 70's during the height of the Cold War, I read Nevil Shute's On The Beach, published around 1959 I think.This is an excellent post apocalyptic novel with submarine involvement. Makes one think very deeply about nuclear war.
One other thing, would you ever do a post on cold war espionage? This genre has evolved since the golden age of spy novels in the 50's, 60' 70's and early 80's and today there are a lot of violent, one-man-on-a-mission types of novels that are not really "spy-espionage" novels. There are some new authors that do try to continue the golden age sagas but are not very well known. Thanks again for the book thread and pet thread. My wife and I look forward to the moron (of which I am one) pet thread each week. Smiles are sometimes hard to come by these days. Thanks again for the great work.

Posted by: Dennis Collins at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (nNjWO)

361 Paul Johnson thinks that if Orwell and Camus had both lived longer, they might have ended up conservative since they had an integrity that others lacked, but of course, we'll never know.

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PJ makes remarkable assessments of people. I recommend "Intellectuals" to all Morons. It does a great job of illustrating how our modern "giants" had feet, legs, torsos, arms and heads of clay. And by clay, I mean "poo."

Also, as an aside, he once said Robert Maxwell was so radiant with evil that he refused to be near him, and didn't even like being in the same room with him.

Given Ghislaine's proclivities, I can believe this is no exaggeration.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (5aX2M)


Seconded. Assuming he's still alive, Johnson is a living treasure.

There was an article, waaaay back in the Spy Magazine days, when one of their writers went to Johnson's home to "interview" him, and I don't recall the details, but the guy was basically having a lark, asking all sorts of stupid questions.

After a few minutes of this, Johnson got up, left the room, and never returned.

The writer wrote his little piece for Spy, completely oblivious to the fact that only one person emerged from this little encounter with his dignity intact.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:58 AM (hku12)

362 355
I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.



Hear hear! It wrecked the role of the Senate and the Founders
intentions, creating a six year term second House of Representatives.
Mob rule FTL

With retirement rapidly approaching I'm looking for a worthwhile cause to fill my days....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (RcMUX)

363 No idea but will take a guess even getting a engineering degree bet you are not getting away without a trans genders contributions to modern architecture class.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)

364 341 Transsexualism isn't all bad. Now couples needn't continue to have babies if they don't get the sex they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

People who "change" their child's gender are perverse. It cannot be done, all you do is disfigure mentally and physically.

I know you're making a joke, but the cruelty of these parents in the name of politics is real and horrific. They should be made to take these drugs, too. You can bet they'd drop out after a dose or two.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (U7k5w)

365 Nah, they can have a pension, but the amount is 1 435th of 10 percent of every dollar they cut from the federal budget.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:52 AM (hku12)

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Assuming they made meaningful cuts, they'd all be billionaires.
Posted by: The Thunderbolt of Flaming Wisdom at October 20, 2019 11:55 AM (5aX2M)


And the taxpayers pay 90% less than they are now.

I'm going to suggest we try it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (hku12)

366 In the middle of "The Strange Alliance", the memoir of the head of the US Military Mission in Moscow, 1943-45, Gen. John Deane. Published in 1947.


Very, very good. Plain, straightforward, good sense of humor.


He wasn't a Soviet hand, and his gradual, relentless education in the problems with the Soviet attitude is clearly documented.


He also documents that, outside the bubble of Moscow, or the direct glare of the Boss and whatever the reigning attitude of the day was, Russian soldiers and officers were very friendly and cooperative to Americans - to the extent of front commanders coordinating air operations with American forces without telling the Stavka.


Highly recommended for anyone with interested in that part of WWII.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (QDnY+)

367 Even after his injuries Bo Jackson is a first round draft pick for a zombie apocalypse survival team.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (B06Zw)

368 I got a book from the library called The Golden West, which is a compilation of three stories, one by Max Brand, one by Zane Gray, and one by Louis L'Amour.

The person who did the compilation is Jon Tuska, and he has an introduction to each story. For both Brand and Gray he has poetic praise and worship, going into great detail about how wonderful they were and how their stories dig deeply into the human condition and psychology, how many books they wrote, and how amazing they were.

Then he does the L'Amour intro, and after a brief "OK he led an amazing life and wrote a zillion books" bit, he launches into a diatribe about how L'Amour's books are riddled with errors, and how he only had seven plots he recycled, and how he was a crass self-promoter and on and on.

It was so annoying and blatantly filled with bitter envy that it kind of ruined the whole book. Brand is no better an author than L'Amour, nor is Gray. Gray's books are riddled with historical errors which L'Amour avoided, for example. Max Brand was a creative plotter, but he fell into patterns as well. And it is exactly Gray's fixation on human emotion and relationships that make his books kind of boring to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (KZzsI)

369 I'm an intellectual.

Posted by: Little Lupe at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (EgshT)

370 And not that I think I will be going to this fairly far away job but have spied a used book store near there so I need to finish these books.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:02 PM (ZCEU2)

371 No idea but will take a guess even getting a engineering degree bet you are not getting away without a trans genders contributions to modern architecture class.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)


I'm assuming every "hard" science now includes a large dollop of tranny truth and glow bell warmening.

Can't gradgeate without it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:02 PM (hku12)

372
I bought three books from the bargain bin not long ago.

Art of War, The Federalist and The Prince with other writings of Machiavelli.

I've just finished the Art of War. Trying to decide which to read next .

What we want , The Federalist or what you eventually get, The Prince.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 20, 2019 10:01 AM (2DOZq)






As iconic as The Prince is, one should take it with a grain of salt. It's rather out of character with Machiavelli's other writings, which are much more friendly to a representative republican form of government.

He wrote it with the intent of gaining a government post with the new Medici regime in Florence (Nicky had been a rather high-ranking official in the Florentine Republic, before the Medici came back in and re-took the city). It's even more of a head-scratcher because about a month after the Medici came to power, they arrested Machiavelli and mercilessly tortured him using the strappado (the same torture the North Vietnamese used hundreds of years later to ruin John McCain's arms).

Why he would go to the Medici begging for an important public post after that is something that's puzzled me for years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2019 12:05 PM (eXA4G)

373 355 I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment.

16th has to go. It's what fuels Leviathan.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (NWiLs)

374 Egad, I had to do a double take there. I thought Wrecks was suggesting the couples are having sex... WITH their kid!!

As in, you want to have sex with your daughter, but then you have a son? No problem! Just start buying him finger nail polish and Barbies!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 11:49 AM (hku12)
_________

That's on the menu. Count on it.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:56 AM (ZbwAu)


Sort of off-topic, but then not, it still sticks in my craw. Dave posted in his overnight thread the other day, a link to an article by a psychologist who was basically saying the concept of repressed memory is a myth.

What a dangerous and absurd idea!

This guy was claiming, since in the 90s there were zealots who were "helping" kids recover memories that were not real, that then ALL repressed memory is fake!

The guy should have his license shredded. I feel sorry for any patient he sees, because he's as dangerous to them as they false memory folks were.

Ask any adult who was sexually abused as a child, just how easy it is to recall the memories. It's sometimes damned near impossible, because the human brain is like that. It layers protections over the harder things for the conscious brain to recall, and there are COUNTLESS people who have been REALLY REALLY abused.

Just because this psychologist clown points to the false memory cases doesn't change that fact.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (hku12)

375 The Art of War is just common sense, when you get down to it.
If you go to war, don't be stupid.
Like don't attack a well armed enemy of an unknown number as he sits behind cover and concealment.
Gen. Lee should have heeded that one.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 20, 2019 12:08 PM (w7KSn)

376 RE: The Godfather

I read Mario Puzo's autobiography once-- as I recall, it's a collection of autobiographical essays, fwiw. But it seemed pretty much like an autobiography to me.

It was fascinating, at least to me.

Pre-Godfather, he was an author who had never been able to support his family by writing. He held a long series of forgettable jobs-- one of the longest as a railroad freight clerk.

Some of his pre-Godfather writing received critical success. He was prolific.

The Godfather was his Hail Mary, mid-life attempt to achieve at least SOME commercial success before he died. He had led a life that barely supported a lower middle class existence for his family.

So... he plotted Godfather with commercial success as his one & only aim. He describes how he put a lot of stuff in there, i.e., how Sonny liked one girl because she was the only one who could accommodate his enormous penis, that Puzo wasn't exactly proud of.

The reader already knows how Puzo's one last attempt to write something that would finally SELL turned out.

Having achieved fame (& enormous fortune) late in life gave him a quizzical perspective about success, & people in general. He was a born-again skeptic.

I read a few of his pre-Godfather novels, & they were interesting. He clearly had talent & knew his craft. But... novels based on his experiences as a poor, second generation Italian immigrant never found an audience.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:10 PM (Cssks)

377 16th has to go. It's what fuels Leviathan.

The 16th Amendment eradicated legal recognition of private property and completely turned the relationship of We The People with a servant government into a hostile occupying enemy force with chattel to rule over.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 12:12 PM (lD3vL)

378 275 Exactly right. Lewis is another great prophetic voice. He knew where we were headed back in the 1950s.
Don't forget Francis Schaeffer in that list.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 11:16 AM (lD3vL)


I was reading a lot of Francis Schaeffer back in the 80s at the same time I was reading Ayn Rand. It amazed me how they were each saying nearly identical things despite being about as far apart philosophically as you can get.

Too bad about Schaeffer's kid, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 12:12 PM (jjpZH)

379 He also documents that, outside the bubble of Moscow, or the direct glare of the Boss and whatever the reigning attitude of the day was, Russian soldiers and officers were very friendly and cooperative to Americans - to the extent of front commanders coordinating air operations with American forces without telling the Stavka.

They must have known who the embedded backstabbers were and how to freeze them out, because that was a dangerous course of action.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

380 Liar nood.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2019 12:16 PM (Y4EXg)

381 OM, maybe have a thread on interesting podcasts sometime?
Thanks for all you do!



Hugs.
Posted by: mpfs at October 20, 2019 10:56 AM (79p/O)


A good podcast is like a good Netflix show. Really up to individual tastes and hard to explain.

However: Tom Wood's Show (Economics), Your Welcome with Michael Malice (cultural and God knows what), Walk-ins Welcome with Bridgette Phetasy (spotty and woo at times but focused around addiction recovery and politics), Contra Krugman (economics), Quillette (Libertarian NPR), Talking Biotech Podcast (Geeks talk about doing biotech), Free Thoughts (from the Cato institute on Libertarianism.org website - spotty), Accad and Koka Report (MDs talk about medicine) and on top of that Jordan Peterson and The Bablyon Bee both have podcasts.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:17 PM (xG/b0)

382 Nood, for quite some time.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2019 12:18 PM (Cssks)

383 We must learn to love the lash!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)


People must be induced to accept (and even like!) their inevitable social destinies.

The lash is for later, when they balk and try to object out of disrespect and resentment at what we have done for them.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2019 12:22 PM (xG/b0)

384 Thanks for your good wishes, everybody.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (H3c5F)

385 I'd like to catch up on all arguments about epistemological analysis of past cultures and their influence on formation of current cultures/states ... but in general I find the Bible has such history in a nutshell. Man desires liberty, while societies demand obedience and conformity. God (Christian and Jewish view, imo) demands we love God first ... just how we love our neighbor becomes subject to a lot of self determined decisions, but culture influences that "determination". (teach, your children well)


Our founders broke new ground in establishing government that recognized God's provenance and man's liberty, forming a more perfect union ... unions (governments) being an essential element of protecting societal achievements in liberty from the violent Genghis Khan thieves.

The free society allows liberties, if they don't impose damage on others. (state rights, individual rights, protecting children from drag queens) ... but the despot demands conformity in thought (purging the deplorable/irredeemable via deceit and violence, special laws for certain political identities).

As Orwell noted, the totalitarian must infiltrate and destroy, rewrite history even. e.g. The first man was from China, Russians invented everything, Islamists invented all math, US was built on the backs of slaves, the noble savage arguments ... etc. Most aimed against the exceptional/successful "manifest destiny" dreams of "The West".


Russians had to infiltrate our culture, not create their own nirvana (real communism can't be done right). Jihadists infiltrate by stealth (taqiya)... China also uses stealth. "Free Trade" was mostly WallStreet using stealth against US, so they ("globalists") could use slaves (not very neighborly) and freely pollute.


The environmental movement had good elements, but then became a purely commie movement, perverting science itself, now becoming tyrannical.


And the march through the institutions, all to pervert what was built, because they can't build on their own. "They" are a cancer. "The thief comes not but for to steal, kill, destroy". (and then mafia element infiltrates as well, where the law is ignored, connected crooks become above the law, if you speak up, YOU are prosecuted)


The godless ones have to infiltrate the churches ... imo the attack on "Catholics" is mostly because Catholics are more monolithic, while Protestants are "diverse". That freedom to be diverse is good (free will) ... but many stray further away from scripture, rather than toward it.

Summary, man chooses liberty for himself and others (love God and neighbor), or he chooses to reign (become god) in this world by steal, kill, destroy methods -- to gain power over his fellow man. (this can all apply to religious institutions being perverted, as a variant type of "government", and/or to crime syndicates that act as another form of shadow government ... DeepState, narco states, corporatism, banking syndicates)


At times individuals must rise up against their captor government (to form a more perfect union), but we still hope argument and elections can save our Republic. imo there are still majority "good people" that have been deceived to various degrees. The evil ones are being exposed.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2019 12:35 PM (Cus5s)

386 I've been on a Perry Mason tear that shows no sign of stopping. However, the last one I read stopped on me!

I got the book (TCOT Moth-Eaten Mink) free from archive.org -- and thanks to the Moron who advised me about this! I read it in one day; I was home recovering from eye surgery. The damned book ended in the middle of the last chapter!

I knew who done it because I'd seen the TV episode based on the book, but I wanted to read the exact wording. Fortunately, the book was available through the MOEBIUS lending system, so I'll be able to finish it officially in a few weeks.

In the meantime, "Justice on Trial" arrived for me at the library. I need to start this now because it has a waiting list. No renewals possible. Perry and the gang -- and Ace comment threads -- will just have to wait.

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 20, 2019 12:53 PM (PWPy3)

387 "I think we should repeal the 17th Amendment."

It's not going to work the way it did before, unless we manage to get reversed Baker vs. Carr and other SCOTUS decisions that mandated "one person, one vote" legislative districts in all states. Otherwise you end up with exactly the same problem we have now: the legislature is dominated by densely populated urban areas who will pick exactly the same (if not more) corrupt candidates as happens now by popular vote. Absolutely nothing would change in states like IL or CA.

Posted by: Secret Square at October 20, 2019 01:06 PM (9WuX0)

388 Drat! Ordered the Sowell 'Quest', and 'Lucky 666' books.

This place is going to bankrupt my retirement.

"Homeless Man Found Living in Hut Constructed of Books" it will say on page B4 of the paper.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2019 01:21 PM (Pu/Kw)

389 Yesterday was National Period Day. How did you guys celebrate?
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"Period" as in the punctuation mark, or "period" as in...period?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 20, 2019 09:42 AM (iB1oa)

The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 20, 2019 09:47 AM (y7DUB)

It is typical that Feminists can only think of women in the context of body parts and secretions rather than mind and spirit.

Being a sex object would be an improvement, at least the idea is for something enjoyable to happen.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2019 01:42 PM (FTPn0)

390 I assume the age group for young adult is teenage and it wasn't enough to read literature like Sherlock Holmes. The stories had to be about them and all their teen angst, which they think (I use the word 'think' loosely) is the most important matter in the world. It allows these youngsters (NOT adults) to indulge every self-centered, egotistical sense of self-importance. Add in the sexy aspects and they consider themselves adults, which they aren't. It's like the 13 year old girl who thinks because she needs a bra and shaves that she is now a woman.

Mini-rant off.
Posted by: JTB at October 20, 2019 11:00 AM (bmdz3)

I can't imagine why people think kids want to read that. I never did. I never liked the 'teen' superheroes on the cartoons for me to relate to. Kids want to relate to adults.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2019 01:55 PM (FTPn0)

391 I will throw this in perhaps a little late, the recent audiobook clearance list. Our local library system has adopted an app (Libby, Overdrive) that makes finding and borrowing ebooks and audiobooks remarkably friendly.

Below are the ones I didn't give up on and throw back early.

Bad Blood - John Carreyrou: I'd read this one in print, but it was worth going back to listen. This pretty much puts a bolt through the reputation of aging George Shultz.

Blowing The Bloody Doors Off - Michael Caine: An interesting listen from a guy who doesn't take himself too seriously.

The Road To Jonestown - Jeff Guinn, and Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi: Worthwhile as background to events that, for most people, were only known in the denouement.

The Romanovs - Simon Sebag Montefiore: This one bogged down in spots, and seemed obsessed with the sexual predilections of the Russian court. I'll have to check how long this one is in print form, I'm guessing it's a thousand pages.

Lafayette in the Somewhat United States - Sarah Vowell: I have this one in print, but haven't finished it, when the audiobook popped up as available I figured I'd do it. I still like the content, but Vowell isn't the greatest narrator...

A Short History Of Nearly Everything - Bill Bryson: I thought I'd read this one, as Bill Bryson and John McPhee are on my 'read everything they've done' list, but I realized I hadn't. Bryson occasionally coughs up a clanger, but in general he's as fun and educational a writer as there is.

Valiant Ambition - Nathan Philbrick: A worthwhile listen/read if you're into American Revolutionary history, maybe a bit of a slog if you're not.

Dead Wake - Erik Larson: An entertaining and worthwhile work on the Lusitania that isn't "Churchill sunk it to get America into the war".

The Aviators - Winston Groom: Basically a history of the '20s-40s as reflected in the lives of Lindbergh, Doolittle, and Rickenbacker. Enjoyed this one a lot.

Churchill and Orwell - Thomas Ricks: A worthwhile listen, maybe a worthwhile read. Generally I like reading Ricks' stuff, with a few quibbles along the way.

The Devil In The White City - Erik Larson: A fascinating piece on the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, I knew nothing about any of it. Highly recommended.

The Billion Dollar Spy - David Hoffman: Another one that I'd go back and re-listen to pieces of it if I'd been listening in bed and missed something.

Posted by: JEM at October 20, 2019 01:58 PM (8erNz)

392 Clueless came from Jane Austin.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 20, 2019 11:19 AM (ZbwAu)

------------------------------
Yes, Clueless movie is modern adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma. And Jane Austen's Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice) is the basis for almost all leading male characters in romance novels from Mills & Boon to 50 Shades of Grey - rich, handsome, arrogant bachelor who is later tamed by the smart female.

Posted by: Oggi at October 20, 2019 02:02 PM (Bk5Q+)

393 Eeyore @210 "Anyone else read Kirk's Creature of the Twilight?"

Yes! If you have not already read it, I highly recommend the sequel "Lord of the Hollow Dark". And I will also mention that protagonist, the suave and sinister Manfred Arcane, also appears in a couple of Kirk's short stories. Kirk's "ghostly tales" were most recently collected in a volume titled "Ancestral Shadows".

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at October 20, 2019 02:45 PM (iuRR5)

394
The pains of Eve; the Curse; 28 day nosebleed; riding the rag; that time of the month...


Aunt Flo is visiting.

Posted by: JEM at October 20, 2019 02:54 PM (8erNz)

395 Re #178 by Kindltot:

First, I strongly second your recommendation for Leigh Brackett's Skaith trilogy. The titles for anyone interested are "The Ginger Star", "The Hounds of Skaith" and "The Reavers of Skaith". There was also an omnibus edition "The Book of Skaith".

Leigh Brackett first wrote about Eric John Stark for the pulps back in the '40s. She set his adventures on excellent versions of the then standard romantic ideas of other planets (Mars is a dying world with canals, ancient, decadent cities, strange survivals from lost ages, Venus is a fog shrouded world of swamps, Mercury has a Twilight Belt). When she revived the character in the 70s these were no longer believable (even for pulp fiction) settings so she sent him interstellar. A couple of titles for her original stories, set on Mars, are "The Secret of Sinharat" and "The People of the Talisman". I will note that you can find both the versions of this stories rewritten by Brackett for book publication and the versions as they first saw print in the magazines (under somewhat different titles e.g. "The People of the Talisman" (book)/"The Black Amazon of Mars"(magazine)".

When Brackett revived Stark for the Skaith series she pulled off something that very few authors have managed: she took a memorable character and brought him back without diminishing or distorting him.

Two bits of nitpicking: the name of Stark's foster father is Simon Ashton, not Clark Ashton (I think you are confusing him with the author Clark Ashton Smith). And, secondly, Stark does not go to Skaith as part of a mission to allow some of it's people to emigrate from a dying world. Simon Ashton went there as part of an official mission to do this and then disappeared. Stark goes to Skaith to rescue his foster father or to avenge him.

Finally, I will quote my favorite line from "The Ginger Star":

"I am N'Chaka.
I do not die.
I kill."

For context read the book. You will not regret it.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at October 20, 2019 03:24 PM (iuRR5)

396 What I'm reading:

Jerry Pournelle and S. M. Stirling Sparta trilogy,

Prince of Mercenaries

Go Tell The Spartans

Prince of Sparta

GREAT military sci-fi, told by two masters.

Just downloaded them today.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at October 20, 2019 03:31 PM (T09ml)

397 @376 --

I once read that Stan Lee said that Puzo worked briefly for Marvel. He quit, saying that he found writing comics too difficult.

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (+1NOx)

398 #340 Trimegistus " Note that all postapocalypse stories are essentially ripping off "By the Waters of Babylon" by Stephen Vincent Benet, published in 1937!". I do not know this but I would bet good money that Andre Norton had this story in mind when she wrote "Star Man's Son". (re #171 Tom Servo).

Anyone wanting to read this excellent forerunner of the genre is recommended to "By the Waters of Babylon and other fantasies and prophecies" a collection for Kindle that is only $2.99. Other outstanding stories included are "Into Egypt", "The Blood of the Martyrs" and "The Curfew Tolls".

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at October 20, 2019 03:57 PM (iuRR5)

399 In late to the book thread since I have been traveling, but do like to read through all of the comments to see what all everyone is reading and what I might like to read. Did read both Alas Babylon and The Lottery short story in high school. The Lottery story is one of the most gut-punching short stories I have read and I have no desire to read it again.
A few weeks ago someone rec'd Hanging Creek Woman by Louis L'Amour and I read that and liked it. Great characters and tight plot in 150 pages of a book. Probably if it was printed today with larger font it would be around 200 pages. Still, not much extra and very little of what was not needed in terms of words and plot. Thanks to whoever rec'd it.

Posted by: Charlotte at October 20, 2019 04:10 PM (UrERF)

400 I always chuckled at the term "YA Lit" and the like. I was reading books that are ostensibly designed for that demographic when I was as young as seven! By the time I had hit the age that was the target audience, I had moved on to The Odyssey and eventually books such as The Hunt For Red October. That whole genre passed me by.

I grew up in the 1980s, and got the old Scholastic Book Order forms in school, and yes, in each one you could find post-apocalyptic fare, and 10 times out of 10 the cause of the apocalypse was a nuclear holocaust. I can't speak for the 1970s but in the 1980s, if those book order forms can be believed, this absolutely was a theme to lit aimed at the young at the time. (I'd be willing to bet this evaporated as the 1990s arrived.) Indeed, the surprising thing about reading "Red Storm Rising" was that not a single nuke was used, and the mere suggestion of such triggered the chain of events that ended the book. (No chemical weapons, either.)

I never read "Alas, Babylon".

Finally, some posters here have reminded me just how lazy Americans are, and how they are out to make the country even more lazy. We can repeal the 17th Amendment, and that would be fine and good, but nothing would change. Instead of popularly elected Senators charged with bringing home the bacon and padding state budgets, you'll just have a Senate staffed with Senators charged with bringing home the bacon and having been given marching orders from profligate state legislatures to pad the state coffers with federal dollars. People who advocate for the repeal of the 17th Amendment refuse to take into account that unless mindsets change (hah!), it will not remotely matter how we choose Senators. (Cue the indignant, uncontrollable rage from people who believe such a repeal will magically transport this country to a better age, solve all our problems, and absolve them of their civic duty to participate in and engage with the government...)
Ditto the 16th. One, what is the alternative? Two, it does NOTHING to address the size of government. If you are dumb enough to think that once it's gone the federal government is going to magically become financially responsible, I will point you to the national debt. (Another thing that's a lazy solution that is guaranteed to generate endless laziness around the land? Term limits.)

Das ist alles.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 20, 2019 05:49 PM (ZXzOT)

401 The Black Ravine by Ukrainian author Oles Honchar. A seemingly simple tale about a Soviet bureaucrat. He's a nice fellow. His mother and wife love him very much - and he loves them. The villagers mock him. Short story. 18 pages. Easy peasy.

Find it at archive.org.


Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2019 06:57 PM (K3B2k)

402 Tom Servo; I also read a lot of Andre Norton. I liked his kitty cat.

Posted by: James Causey at October 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Mwtel)

403 402 Tom Servo; I also read a lot of Andre Norton. I liked his kitty cat.

Posted by: James Causey at October 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Mwtel)


fyi, Andre Norton is a she

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at October 20, 2019 07:09 PM (jjpZH)

404 We're in the same age range I reckon.

The day the box appeared in the classroom with those little books was awesome.

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 20, 2019 07:36 PM (cknjq)

EMT 10/20/19

You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

I think I am officially old.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Put some ice on it.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:00 AM (vd8XM)

2 willowed from ONT --

First?

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (NH9pa)

3 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, October 20, 2019. On this day in 1944 liquefied natural gas leaked from storage tanks in Cleveland and then exploded, leveling 30 city blocks and killing 130 people. That LNG is some nasty stuff folks.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

4 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

5 PeeLousy leads a group of commies on an illegal visit to the Mideast and call it a 'bi-partisan' group. She included one DIABLO from TX (CR 40). I sure she will have a well balanced screed to fire at Trump with the other 10 Democrats in the group.


https://tinyurl.com/yyutb84z

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

6 Tulsi Gabbard lays into Scankles after her insane attack on her.


https://tinyurl.com/y5od23g6

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

7 The first Chick-fil-A in the UK is forced to close 6 months after it opened because the mall they leased the building from bowed to radical homosexuals cfr-cfr4dee4ex who were protesting them. They could not have done that in the US.


https://tinyurl.com/y3rtsy2b

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

8 JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon says controlling capitalist companies is socialism not social democracy, sets record straight


He's technically wrong, it Fascism not Socialism.


https://tinyurl.com/y25svm76

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

9 > Put some ice on it.

Slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (Do2h6)

10 OK, so not exactly "willowed" per se --

Took a nap at 9:50 p.m. -- woke up a few minutes ago and made it to the ONT --

-- I'm all messed up.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (NH9pa)

11 Another RINO calling it quits for 2020.


https://tinyurl.com/y2vyakkh

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

12 Democrat assholes have demonstrated that Republican Politicians can not dine out at restaurants anywhere in the US.


https://tinyurl.com/yxqyk7lq

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez


https://tinyurl.com/y4qb5qsy


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)

15 > That LNG is some nasty stuff folks.

"Then I saw her face... now I'm a BLVEr..."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (Do2h6)

16 Fear of the Left is the biggest motivating factor in the country, and apparently in Great Britain as well.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:04 AM (ZCEU2)

17 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip

What you mean?
Like math?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:05 AM (vd8XM)

18 14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)

Like roof-work?

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:06 AM (I9xeT)

19 Democrat assholes have demonstrated that Republican Politicians can not dine out at restaurants anywhere in the US.

Can you imagine the screams of RACIST if any roles were reversed?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

20 It has been raining continuously here since yesterday in the early afternoon with that tropical storm moving through.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

21 I think Skip teed up a softball for us, there.

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip

What you mean?
Like math?
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:05 AM (vd8XM)

Like roof-work?
Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:06 AM (I9xeT)

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (I9xeT)

22
Taking liquor orders only from semi drunk hotties no totties. A black russian...you aren't Justin Trudeau 'eh ------suckin' up for votes tomorrow......................


BLACK FACE MAN BAD,

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (5IHGB)

23 You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

Posted by: Krakatoa
________

No, but I knew a guy when I was stationed at Camp Frostbite in Alaska. It was the height of the Cold War, and things were always tense. We were always on the lookout for infiltrators from outside the fence as well as watching the sky for ICBMs. Polar bears were always a potential threat to security, too . . .

. . . oh, man -- I think I'm having a flashback.

Posted by: Colonel Fuzby at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (NH9pa)

24 I do need to clean gutters but still dark for another hour

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (ZCEU2)

25 G'mornin' Horde !

41 degrees, dense fog, 1/2 moon up there.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:08 AM (bwo3w)

26 70.3F and drizzling rain with fog.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

27 In Chicago, the shooting totals for the weekend up to 10:35 PM Saturday

0 Dead
25 wounded.

Hey fellas, ya know them guns got sights, don't ya?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (vd8XM)

28 Rodrigo, I was the right age for it I guess but I really liked that band.

Mother's complain about how hard life is
And the kids just don't understand

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (hFbrr)

29 And to think I started up my heat pump on Friday when it was 47F.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:12 AM (mpXpK)

30 Start on the hard stuff....I'm in my bunk,waiting....warm yer hands first......

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2019 06:13 AM (5IHGB)

31 Good Morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:14 AM (CQ8KO)

32 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:15 AM (arJlL)

33 You ever sneeze so hard you bit your tongue and hurt your ribs?

Why was your tongue on your ribs ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:15 AM (arJlL)

34 I had gutters put on the front and back of my house about 15 years ago. Every Spring I would check them. Found nothing. I had all my pine trees cut down about 25 years ago. So there is really nothing there to put mess in the gutters. So I quit cheking them other than looking at the discharge when it is raining.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:16 AM (mpXpK)

35 I broke some ribs playing industrial league softball about 20 years ago. Every time I sneezed or coughed it hurt like Hell for months.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:17 AM (mpXpK)

36 I think Skip teed up a softball for us, there.

14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?
Posted by: Skip


Constipated ?

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:19 AM (arJlL)

37 The Texas MoMeet lives in memory and in the databases of various national security and search engine compilation entities.

What a great time! Ben Had and a crew of her friends put on a wonderful show. Jane D'Oh and her gently cooked shrimp of unusual size will be the take away memory for the few that drank less than needed for memory blackout.

This group knows how to party. Led by uh ... uh, [OPSEC].

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:20 AM (CQ8KO)

38 Walk it off.

Like Altuve.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2019 06:21 AM (Dh1wo)

39 Vic - Notorious RBG laughed that shit right off.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:21 AM (ZCEU2)

40 RBG is probably stuffed to the gills on Quaaludes.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

41 Still working on the Haxan movie

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (ZCEU2)

42 0 Dead
25 wounded.


Life in wartime. Can you imagine? I may hear twenty-five shots in a weekend, but I know they're all going into targets.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 06:24 AM (NpvYf)

43 Sounds like it was a good time, NaCly!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 06:25 AM (Z/jzm)

44 It taught me that after you go past 40 you can no longer dive into 2nd base to try and avoid a tag when idiot first base coach waves you on.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:26 AM (mpXpK)

45 Thank you for those links, Vic. Much appreciated.

The link on Rand Paul was a bit squeaky when opened. Ouch!

But there is a solution to tat problem, close at hand. And those Leftist totalitarian asshole would deserve it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:27 AM (CQ8KO)

46 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 06:28 AM (EZebt)

47 krakatoa

You are not old. Old is having more hair on your ears and nose than on your head.

I bet I have socks older than you, my young pup Cob.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:29 AM (CQ8KO)

48 What I find so amusing about "Pleasant Valley Sunday" is that it was written, played, and listened to in an attitude of scorn for the stupid whitebread middleclass values described in it ... which we have all come to value and mostly exemplify.

LOL, not.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:29 AM (bwo3w)

49 t taught me that after you go past 40 you can no longer dive into 2nd base to try and avoid a tag when idiot first base coach waves you on.
Posted by: Vic

I played in a over 40 tournament about 25 years ago.
One of the rules was no sliding. I remembered that rule as I was running to second on a deep fly out. Farked my knees up trying to stop at the base instead.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

50 My life is insanity

Oh my, yes it was fun. We have stories! But we can't speak them on the open blog.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (CQ8KO)

51 Thinking back on various instances of cracked ribs and one of, I guess, separated rib cartilage.

Think I'll just bring those thoughts back forward about 35 years.

Now, what should be my first listen today.
Hmmm
5:30 am.

I think, yeah.
The great Satchmo.
You know the one.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (hFbrr)

52 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.

And that's divisible by 3 !

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:31 AM (arJlL)

53 SanFranPsycho, similar here, but 3 times.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:32 AM (bwo3w)

54 "Wonderful World" ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 06:33 AM (bwo3w)

55 I just watched the Astros game highlights.
I find baseball players the most like kids. Even with their beards, goofy hair, gold chains, etc. When they get the big win, they all hop around excited like 10 year olds again, for the game

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (vd8XM)

56 49 I played in a over 40 tournament about 25 years ago.

One of the rules was no sliding. I remembered that rule as I was
running to second on a deep fly out. Farked my knees up trying to stop
at the base instead.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

We went by the official rules for slow pitch softball. There was no rule against sliding, in fact since there was a rule against charging a player guarding a base you pretty much had to slide.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (mpXpK)

57 You are not old. Old is having more hair on your ears and nose than on your head.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that the Sandman sprinkles Miracle-Gro in my nostrils and ears whilst I sleep.

I also think he smudges my glasses.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:34 AM (arJlL)

58 Well, have a blessed day, everyone.

May all the Horde have safe travels back to home.

Gonnna sneak down to the fitness room and do something light, like look for chigger bites in the mirror. I think I'm good. But it was a very big ranch, especially to the machine gun shoot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 06:35 AM (CQ8KO)

59 We went by the official rules for slow pitch softball. There was no rule against sliding, in fact since there was a rule against charging a player guarding a base you pretty much had to slide.
Posted by: Vic

That's what I usually played. I have no idea why you could not in this tournament.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:37 AM (vd8XM)

60 Our league was not based on age, all you had to be by the rules was an employee of the company sponsoring your team. That kept managers from bringing ringers.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

61 Good morning y'all.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 06:39 AM (n0Iwq)

62 Our league was not based on age, all you had to be by the rules was an employee of the company sponsoring your team. That kept managers from bringing ringers.
Posted by: Vic

I had played in a lot of bar leagues. After getting married, I no longer played (I don't remember why /s)
This was about 10 years after I had gotten married. My cousin thought it would be fun. It was, but I think my knees paid a price

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (vd8XM)

63 30 degrees right now. Die skeeters!!!

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (n0Iwq)

64 That's the one, sock!

I'd tell ya about the one on now but fifty of ya would gang up to yank my man card.

Let's just say, a cute little thing, before she went all diva and waaay too many warbly falsettos, doing a Jackson Five song, unplugged.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (hFbrr)

65 I also think he smudges my glasses.
Posted by: JT

And, in my wife's case, then hides them around the house

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (vd8XM)

66 That's what I usually played. I have no idea why you could not in this tournament.



Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 06:37 AM (vd8XM)

The team managers usually had a pre-tournament meeting to determine if they wanted to put in any special "tournament only" rules. For example in our tournaments we all agreed to eliminate the 12 run slaughter rule.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

67 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 06:43 AM (cqNba)

68 And now, a tune of Gary's about his dad.

True North doing Old Martin and a Mandolin.
You might like that one too, MLii.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 06:46 AM (hFbrr)

69 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

https://tinyurl.com/y5oxmj7o

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 06:53 AM (wIfek)

70 I also think he smudges my glasses.
Posted by: JT

And, in my wife's case, then hides them around the house
Posted by: Bruce

One time, I couldn't find my glasses.

I looked all over, couldn't find them


So I thought "let me sit down and think where they could be.

And I sat on them.

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2019 06:57 AM (arJlL)

71 We played a tournament in Raleigh, NC once with the "Home Office". We could have used that 12 run slaughter rule. I knew that after seeing their team of hulks hitting the field. They were all
10 feet tall, 4 feet wide, and their knuckles drug the ground kicking up
sparks.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:59 AM (mpXpK)

72 I was in an old-people's softball game once. Competitive as hell. Pitcher threw a high-arc beanball, batter charged the pitcher. A minute and a half later, he was at the mound. The pitcher dropped his glove and was ready to go at it. Both benches cleared. By the time the umpires restored order, all the players were at Walmart. I don't remember who won.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (NH9pa)

73 The kissing the Devil's ass scene in Haxan.

Reminded me of Hillary for some reason.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (Z+IKu)

74 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

https://tinyurl.com/y5oxmj7o
Posted by: jsg

Why do turd chewers with nothing to say, insist on yelling it thru a megaphone?

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

75 teej, I "subscribed" to the True North channel on the u tube. I've been running through all of the selections and enjoying them all!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:02 AM (Z/jzm)

76 I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.

Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.

Same guys who couldn't hit an 80 mph fastball in Senior league.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (wIfek)

77 Competitive as hell. Pitcher threw a high-arc beanball, batter charged the pitcher

The rules prohibited intentionally throwing bean balls. I don't know why. In slow pitch the required arc and drop was such that they could be easily avoided. But charging the pitcher was also prohibited, in fact, charging anyone was prohibited.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (mpXpK)

78 I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.

Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.

I played a few years of little league. I didn't play softball until I was about 22 or so. We we're usually sponsored by a bar.
I was there for the drinking

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:04 AM (vd8XM)

79 I was there for the drinking
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:04 AM (vd8XM)

OK that is totally understandable.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:05 AM (wIfek)

80 76
I played in slo pitch softball tournaments a couple of times.



Never got it. Some people think they're Albert Pujols or something because they can actually hit a giant ball. Sort of funny.



Same guys who couldn't hit an 80 mph fastball in Senior league.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:03 AM (wIfek)

Those balls may have been larger than a baseball but they were also a soft
core ball so that every hit was not a home run.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:06 AM (mpXpK)

81 73 just passed that point of the movie,could be Hillary

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:07 AM (ZCEU2)

82 Why do turd chewers with nothing to say, insist on yelling it thru a megaphone?
Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

It may have something to do with noone would hear them with their soft voice owing to the fact that their testicles have not yet dropped.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:07 AM (wIfek)

83 Those balls may have been larger than a baseball but they were also a soft
core ball so that every hit was not a home run.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:06 AM (mpXpK)

The really sad part is I actually saw a guy swing and miss.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (wIfek)

84 Another vid of capitalism having enough of your bullshit

Posted by: jsg
________

Those protesters have a point.

I don't know what the point was, but it was loud. My awareness has been . . . raised? . . . I guess.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (NH9pa)

85 It may have something to do with noone would hear them with their soft voice owing to the fact that their testicles have not yet dropped.
Posted by: jsg

I would have to get one of those marine air horns, stick it in their face, and fire back

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:10 AM (vd8XM)

86 Glad to hear it MLii!

They're not for everyone but if you appreciate good lyrics and music that can't really be pigeonholed into one slot...

How I ended up playing music with that guy, even sitting in for the drummer in that band a couple of times, I have no idea.

It will end too soon, I'm sure.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:10 AM (hFbrr)

87 In a civilized culture the In and Out asshole would be leaving in an ambulance or hearse.
Zero tolerance for these shitstains.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 20, 2019 07:11 AM (IWA6/)

88 83 The really sad part is I actually saw a guy swing and miss.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 07:09 AM (wIfek)

I have seen several people strike out. its easy to do if you have a large drop and the ump doesn't call it and the batter is swinging for the fences.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (mpXpK)

89 So on our local NextDoor social media, somebody posted a picture of some cute pups in an open box.

And said that their anti depression meds have just arrived.

Cute pix.
Cute pups.

makes you smile.



So of course a local fun-sponge has to reply that making light of clinical depression is no laughing matter, and that they are offended.



Every idiot needs a social media platform.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (cqNba)

90 happy houston won.

no surprise here:

- that verlander gave up homers. he often does, early.

- that chapman gave up a homer. he often does, late. but amazing to see him dominate the first 2 batters throwing nasty strikes, then go wild losing the plate and giving up a walk and home run.

- that altuve came up big.

nut the houston defense really shone in the last 3 innings. that earned the win.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (Pg+x7)

91 I think it would be fun to see them live.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (Z/jzm)

92 In a civilized culture the In and Out asshole would be leaving in an ambulance or hearse.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler
________

Did you see the protesters on top of the London subway train? The funny thing was how the protesters proudly posted the video as though they were right.

(Summary: Idiots stopped the Tube, said their protest was non-violent. Commuters pulled them from the top of the train. Their response was non-non-violent.)

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (NH9pa)

93 In the meanwhile, the times, they are a -changin'

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/345852/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:14 AM (cqNba)

94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ on his belief the Trump administration has hurt itself badly with how it handled the Syria announcement. Almost nothing good has come of saying it wants to move the fifty troops around.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)

95 Congratulations Houston. Nix the Nats.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:17 AM (lwiT4)

96 ... incidentally, i wouldn't count washington out. i think houston is the better, more complete team. but little wild-card d.c. actually has the 4th highest payroll in baseball, a lot on their starters, which makes it interesting.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (Pg+x7)

97 Morning Grammie.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (n0Iwq)

98 94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)


Walter Russel Mead is FOS. The WSJ went left about 5 or 10 years ago when they got new owners.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (mpXpK)

99 Hot 100!

Posted by: fluffy, mostly sock free at October 20, 2019 07:18 AM (dCRRg)

100 To clarify that statement, the WSJ news has always been left leaning, but the editorial pages used to be center right, but that changed.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:20 AM (mpXpK)

101 That guy at In and Out with the bullhorn should leave with that thing sticking out his ass. What an annoying bozo.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:21 AM (NVYyb)

102 Vic calling Mead a POS is just ignorant.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (NVYyb)

103
42 years ago today, a Convair CV-240 ran out of fuel and crashed in Gillsburg, Mississippi, near the end of
its flight from Greenville, South Carolina, to Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Lynyrd Skynyrd's lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist/vocalist Steve Gaines, backing
vocalist Cassie Gaines (Steve's older sister), assistant road manager
Dean Kilpatrick, pilot Walter McCreary and co-pilot William Gray all
died as a result of the crash.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

104 That guy at In and Out with the bullhorn should leave with that thing sticking out his ass. What an annoying bozo.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

I'm not sure what kind of decibel level it would be at that distance. I would think you could charge them with assault to your hearing though

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (vd8XM)

105 sorry about the formatting, I blame pixy.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (lwiT4)

106 It's October 20th and you guys are still talking baseball? Can't it wait for spring training?

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 07:23 AM (g0Lfb)

107 Congrats to the Astros. Altueve is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:24 AM (NVYyb)

108 Question for the Horde. (Morning, thank Heaven's for whole bean 8 o'clock Coffee)

Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you wuss!" ??

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:25 AM (Qirt6)

109 Wait! The Astros played yesterday? At the MoMe, the only sports they talked about was Baylor football.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (edlKR)

110 They are, to me, better live than on cd.

Now that I'll be overseeing the sound and running faders at the bigger gigs where a sound company is involved or doing it all when using their own system, hopefully it will stay that way.

Why so many "sound pros" want to punch the audience in the spine with the bass and the kick drum, it's beyond me.

Hey Dummy!!
This ain't techno!!!

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (hFbrr)

111 89 So of course a local fun-sponge
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:13 AM (cqNba)

heh

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (I9xeT)

112 >>42 years ago today, a Convair CV-240 ran out of fuel and crashed in Gillsburg, Mississippi
...

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

Doesn't seem possible that was 42 years ago! I was in HS, remember hearing about it.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:26 AM (Z/jzm)

113 Altueve is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:24 AM (NVYyb)



Did they name him MVP of the ALCS yet?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (lwiT4)

114 " Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair,"

I wanna think that two pounds per week, sustained, is a desired target rate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (cqNba)

115 102
Vic calling Mead a POS is just ignorant.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:22 AM (NVYyb)---------------------------------------

I did not call him a POS, I said he was FOS.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (mpXpK)

116 I agree- playing baseball this late, and into November, is crazy. I went to one of the WS games between the Cubs and the Indians and I kept thing, what a lousy idea for Cleveland and Chicago to play baseball in November. Not warm weather cities. Plus, the Cubbies beat us. Which I did not enjoy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (NVYyb)

117 Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you wuss!" ??
Posted by: Common Tater

The experts (HA) say 2 pounds a week is good.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2019 07:28 AM (vd8XM)

118 Is it realistic to want to increase weight loss
faster than the 2 lbs a week I've averaged? 16 weeks so far. Is that
about as good as it gets? Is that considered good, average, fair, "you
wuss!" ??

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:25 AM (Qirt6)


I've never managed more than 2 lbs a week, except for that first few days of shedding water weight. Or having the stomach flu.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:28 AM (lwiT4)

119 113: yes. mvp alcs.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Pg+x7)

120 That's cool, teej!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Z/jzm)

121 Oops my mistake Vic. Fat finger typing on my phone. Well, restating then, since you did not read the essay you cannot say he is FOS. He is a fait minded guy making valid points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (NVYyb)

122 I agree- playing baseball this late, and into November, is crazy.



I think they should play every day of the year, excluding Christmas.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (lwiT4)

123 Morning grammie.

That plane crash.
We've lost to many, too soon.

Hope Dagny isn't around. Pretty sure I got the to and the too all wrong.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (hFbrr)

124 yes. mvp alcs.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (Pg+x7)



Good. He deserves it.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:31 AM (lwiT4)

125 Of all the great players in baseball today Altueve is the guy who I wish was on the Indians. He makes things happen every time the game comes his way.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:31 AM (NVYyb)

126 'Morning teej!

Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

127 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do. If you were in that position, would you want a bunch of people second guessing you? That's how Bush ran his administration. Barky didn't suffer from that, because all his decisions were made for him

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (Tnijr)

128 121
Oops my mistake Vic. Fat finger typing on my phone. Well, restating
then, since you did not read the essay you cannot say he is FOS. He is a
fait minded guy making valid points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:29 AM (NVYyb)

The one statement that Trump "hurt himself" is BS if he said it, on that score he is full of shit. The Democrats and NeverTrumpers all belie the Trump policy in Syria, but they hate everything Trump dies.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (mpXpK)

129 >> think they should play every day of the year, excluding Christmas.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 20, 2019 07:30 AM (lwiT4)

The Brewers could keep the roof open and bring in a Zamboni. Wear ice skates....I'd pay to see that!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 20, 2019 07:33 AM (Z/jzm)

130 Hah! Ok grammie. They can play every day. Just not in Cleveland. Or on the northside either. Arizona maybe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:33 AM (NVYyb)

131 127 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do. If you were in that position, would you want a bunch of people second guessing you? That's how Bush ran his administration. Barky didn't suffer from that, because all his decisions were made for him
Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:32 AM (Tnijr)

Pretty good summary.

Posted by: m at October 20, 2019 07:34 AM (I9xeT)

132 "...excluding Christmas."

And no games until after 2:30pm on Easter.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 07:34 AM (hFbrr)

133 Fudge, chance of rain today so definitely need to clean out gutters.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:35 AM (ZCEU2)

134 Has the situation with the Kurds become desperate enough for Congress to authorize war?

No?




How odd.......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:36 AM (cqNba)

135 Everyone is an expert on what the president should or shouldn't do.

Posted by: freaked
________

Not everyone. I, personally, defer to the guy at work.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 20, 2019 07:36 AM (NH9pa)

136 Trump is like me, he was against Barky going into Syria to begin with. As I said a LONG time ago, there are no good guys in that shit-hole. And we have no national interests there.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (mpXpK)

137 "Pretty good summary.
Posted by: m "

PDT is the best damn president I have ever seen and I support him even if he makes a mistake, which I don't think he has in the case of Syria. All of the "experts" can prove me wrong once they get elected and kick the shit out of the Dems.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (Tnijr)

138 I agree Trump hurt himself in Syria, empowering the idiot Turks, splitting the GOP, and causing every ally to wonder about how far to trust the US. Moving 50 guys around is inconsequential, though getting them out of harms way is a good thing. The PR part of it was the failure. Not sure anything good has come out of this at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

139 138 The PR part of it was the failure. Not sure anything good has come out of this at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

The 'good' is 100 US troops will return home soon

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (mpXpK)

140 "Not everyone. I, personally, defer to the guy at work."

Well "everyone " meaning his critics and even many of his supposed allies. It's suprising how many "experts" are, as Vic says, FOS.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (Tnijr)

141 I did not call him a POS, I said he was FOS.
Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:27 AM (mpXpK)

Trump only "hurt himself" because the donks and the MSM will turn everything he does into a fatal mistake.

The Kurds have been battling the Turks for many years, centuries. When we went into Syria, it was not to establish a Kurdish state or to save the PKK from retributions. We cannot remain everywhere to prevent anything bad from ever happening. The fact that ISIS was a common enemy, does not mean we owe them a state or eternal protection and allegiance.

If Congress wants us to fight the Turks, let them declare war and not just whine.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:39 AM (U7k5w)

142 I'm in with the there are places we have no business to be in and Hell holes like Syria are one of those.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:40 AM (ZCEU2)

143 " Not sure anything good has come out of this at all."

At the local level, more and more people are becoming educated to the roll that Congress plays in declaring war.

I bet that in the last week, I have had that simple conversation with at least twenty people in real life.

Which generally leads to a discussion about the Constitution, and government.

Now if each of us were to do that......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:40 AM (cqNba)

144 Having said that, i still support PDJT totally and would never concede an inch to the lousy GOPe. It is not like their motives are pure in their criticisms. Most of them want to police the world, using somebody elses kids to do so.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:41 AM (NVYyb)

145 The PR part of it was the failure.

What country have you been in since early 2008? The MFM has hated on Trump since then with one lie after another. He has had no PR from the media.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:41 AM (mpXpK)

146 Vic, keep dreaming. Those guys are in SA, where we are adding more troops.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (NVYyb)

147 Raining steady on the Outer Banks again, The National Weather Service is calling for about 4 inches.

Should not be an issue as we had been mostly dry for twenty days. Even the low roads and bridges had dried out.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (B06Zw)

148
Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (pNxlR)

149 Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right. He charges ahead, PR and media be dammed. Lesser presidents would hem and haw, and let themselves be led by generals and advisors, many of whom got us into the mess in the first place.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:43 AM (Tnijr)

150 Syria was a no-win situation. We supposedly have two allies over there: NATO Turkey and the guys fighting ISIS, the Kurds. T vs. K means two 'allies' fighting each other.

How is it bad PR for Trump to chose the safety of our own troops over an unresolvable situation of not being able to decide which 'ally' to defend in the battle of the Ts vs. Ks?

It was a solid decision. The PR part is the sour grapes of the leftist media trying to damage Trump. Don't listen to the propagandist media.

Posted by: squeakywheel at October 20, 2019 07:44 AM (XTHpI)

151 If ISIS was attacking Kurds, I might understand this "abandonment" bullshit. We did not enter Syria to protect Kurds from Turkey. This is another conflict.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:44 AM (U7k5w)

152 146
Vic, keep dreaming. Those guys are in SA, where we are adding more troops.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:42 AM (NVYyb)

Trump recently put some troops in SA. Those are for Iran not Syria. The one who he is looking at bring back to the States were in Syria from Obama.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

153 Syria is, was and has always been a turd.

President Trump decided it's time to stop polishing.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2019 07:45 AM (Z+IKu)

154 Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right.

This is correct, I think.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:46 AM (NVYyb)

155 OK, so I see a few live bodies that somehow made it safe out of the TxMoMe.

I'm guessing the cops were all busy and didn't have anyone able to patrol the roads within a hundred miles of the event.

Rental-Car = NASCAR

I'm glad he MoMe was spread out over a few days. No way to pack in all that much fun in just one evening.

For all of those I didn't completely offend at the MoMe, I'll try to correct that in the next few months in AoSHQ.

And for those who got stuck with the TxMoMe Official Coffee as door prizes, give the beans a few more days to rest - the roast is THAT fresh.

(except for those who got the Guatemalan roast (indicated by a 'G' on the bottom of the bag) - that is prime Right Now)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 20, 2019 07:47 AM (lD3vL)

156 I have become callous in regards to the Middle East. I believe that a good 90% of the muzzie population wants to kill each other, and, when finished, kill us. No US troops anywhere on the ground should be policy, and while we're at it, a scorched earth withdraw from Incirlik wouldn't hurt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (C1Lsn)

157 Something has bothered me about "Communist" China for some time.

With allowing private property but only controlled by party members. With concentration camps for political reeducation and suppression of religion. With the repression and forced removal of ethnic minorities.

How is China not only facist but full on Nation Socialism?

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (B06Zw)

158
46 No, but if I sneeze once, I sneeze 6 times, every time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 06:28 AM (EZebt)


I sneeze in pairs. I also am more prone now yo prolonged fits of sneezing than it seemed that I was in times past.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (pNxlR)

159 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

the u.s. withdrawal may see some good in the region, aside from removing our troops from harm's way, but that was crass. you might say "but it's true" or "who cares, it's not our fight", but 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)

160 " I also am more prone now yo prolonged fits of sneezing than it seemed that I was in times past."

Climate change.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (cqNba)

161 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

Good to meet you. And there is a story in that. One where you are the much put upon good guy!

OK, I'm over it.

Would have loved to have you join our discussion on China, for your take.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (CQ8KO)

162 Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight

Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:52 AM (rpxSz)

163 The fact that ISIS was a common enemy, does not mean we owe them a state or eternal protection and allegiance.

It is also true that when change comes it comes suddenly. This qualifies. But we need allies, both here and in the ME. Who among our allies thinks this policy change was well handled?

Your point is absolutely right, but I do not think anyone knew in the area we were going to do this until we did. That is the problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:52 AM (NVYyb)

164 It looks like the G7 will be at Camp David now. That was a bad PR move too, as portrayed by the MSM. In this case Trump bowed, but to an acceptable alternative.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:53 AM (Tnijr)

165 I agree Trump hurt himself in Syria, empowering the idiot Turks, splitting the GOP, and causing every ally to wonder about how far to trust the US.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (NVYyb)

I'm not sure about this. I think when a leader does what he knows is right, and what the people in the streets feel what is right, it accrues to his benefit in deeper, long-term ways. Trump comes off as a leader who is honoring his pledges. His stated logic about every angle of this felt true -- the Kurds are no angels, it's an ancient tribal conflict, not our affair. Meanwhile he didn't split the GOP (it's already split) but exposed and shamed the badgering warmongering munchkins.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (H8QX8)

166 I find it extremely telling all these "experts" are REEEEE!!!! about our troops protecting the Turkish/Syrian border 7,000 miles away, but they can't be bothered to protect our own border, something they are bound to do by law.

It is absurd and getting weirder by the day, or hour even. Last year the "experts" were claiming it is unconstitutional to use the military to protect our border.

I'm sure the founders were cool with that notion. Invading Armies are entitled to instate tuition and can't be questioned about their "status" right?

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (Qirt6)

167 Our church formed a team in a church softball league. We innocently thought the teams would be all middle-aged congregants with no ringers. Oh, were we surprised!

I'm 5'7" 200 lbs , a lefty, and slow as hell. I played SECOND base and batted LEADOFF. (At least I could walks or dump a single.) The one athletic guy on our team batted behind me. He would lace one in the gap and be breathing down my neck halfway between 2nd and 3rd. Fun times...

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (fbFye)

168 "given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage. "


It is well that war is so terrible.
Otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 07:54 AM (cqNba)

169 159 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

the u.s. withdrawal may see some good in the region, aside from removing our troops from harm's way, but that was crass. you might say "but it's true" or "who cares, it's not our fight", but 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)

Turks v Kurds has been going on for very long time. Just because we HAD a common enemy, doesn't mean we have to support their independence movement/war, or support them in any other conflict. Nor, does it mean that we have to import more fucking refugees. The nation states with Kurdish populations do not want to cede territory. Do we want to fight their other enemies too?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 07:56 AM (U7k5w)

170 >>> Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Why, is she slender?

Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (dCRRg)

171 I agree the man in the street was glad to hear PDJT say to the world that we are not sending our sons to fight every war. As a policy change going forward, that is very welcome.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (NVYyb)

172 Yeah those women's lives sure went downhill in the last 3 years

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (ZCEU2)

173 We need to decrease our involvement in international wars

And greatly INCREASE the punishment for hitting the US

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (rpxSz)

174 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam
and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive and 2) given
the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.





Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 07:51 AM (Pg+x7)


BS, Obama is the one who put US troops in Syria to begin with. He had the full backing of "I never met a shitty war I didn't want us to get in McShitty".

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (mpXpK)

175 "given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage. "

It's Chicago. What can you do.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (Z1eux)

176 170 >>> Wonder if Hattie McDaniel voted for Trump ?

Why, is she slender?
Posted by: fluffy at October 20, 2019 07:58 AM (dCRRg)

at the moment, probs

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 07:59 AM (rpxSz)

177 1) we have some role there from bush deposing saddam and then obama withdrawing which allowed isis to thrive

Ahh, I remember the media denouncing this as a PR disaster for Obama....not.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:00 AM (wIfek)

178 "It's Chicago. What can you do."

Latest Chicago stats are something like 25 shot...no deaths.


Sounds more like plinking, then war.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:00 AM (cqNba)

179 Hey Baltimore who would be an excellent replacement for Cummings? How about another Cummings?

"Rep. Elijah Cummings' widow, Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, may run for his congressional seat, according to a report."

The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April.

- Breitbard

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (Tnijr)

180 I admit to thinking Erdogan is an ass, bordering on an enemy. I blame Obama for kissing his ass for eight years, and the Muslim Brotherhood generally.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (NVYyb)

181 2) given the lethality of the weaponry, "let them fight" can be savage.

They're muzzies. If there were only rocks it would be savage.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (wIfek)

182
94 Great essay from Walter Russell Mead in todays WSJ on his belief the Trump administration has hurt itself badly with how it handled the Syria announcement. Almost nothing good has come of saying it wants to move the fifty troops around.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 07:16 AM (NVYyb)


I disagree. If all the naysayers believe that it was crucial to have kept those fifty in harm's way, then get Congress to vote on authorizing to keep them there. Absent that, it is just another Congressional dodge to avoid their constitutionally assigned duties, just as they have been doing for decades now with the budget process.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (pNxlR)

183 Just because we HAD a common enemy

The one which Obama helped create and/or supply? I don't think we've heard the last of Syria. Remember when we went in, and nobody could say why, or remember who we were helping? It was very strange.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (NpvYf)

184 Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.


https://tinyurl.com/y3r3q58t

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

185 Morning all. I just happened to hit today's Day-By-Day and loved the moron quality. We should be proud:
https://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
Carry on.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at October 20, 2019 08:03 AM (bIrK9)

186 180 I admit to thinking Erdogan is an ass, bordering on an enemy. I blame Obama for kissing his ass for eight years, and the Muslim Brotherhood generally.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:01 AM (NVYyb)

He's a dangerous Islamist (happy to flood Europe with muslims), and Obama's "favorite" foreign leader. Sadly, Turkey is in NATO and we have more than a few nukes parked there. Before we tangle with Turkey, we should get our assets out. What do you think about that?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)

187 BTW, I also do not like Rob Manfred, though he is no Turk. Juicing baseballs all season and then supposedly unjuicing them in the playoffs is just weird. Baseball NYC office sucks.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (NVYyb)

188 Grumpy Greta is on the move to South America from Canada. I wonder how she will get there. Maybe on the backs of some migrating hummingbirds?

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (Tnijr)

189 "The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April. "

She would be a perfect fit.

It's Cumming's seat.

Why give it to a stranger.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (cqNba)

190
162 Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight


Eschew the free gubmint cheese, dimwits.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (pNxlR)

191 I was shocked to hear we still have nukes in Turkey. They should have been removed before now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (NVYyb)

192 "59 but did trump have to say "like 2 kids in a lot, you have to let them fight..."?

The intellectuals don't like that but the people get it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (H8QX8)

193 183 Just because we HAD a common enemy

The one which Obama helped create and/or supply? I don't think we've heard the last of Syria. Remember when we went in, and nobody could say why, or remember who we were helping? It was very strange.
Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (NpvYf)

Obama's JV team, IIRC.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (U7k5w)

194 186 Turkey is in NATO and we have more than a few nukes
parked there. Before we tangle with Turkey, we should get our assets
out. What do you think about that?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)

I posted a link a few days ago where we pulled them out back in 2012. The only people who mentioned pulling them out now was the NYT. They are professional liars.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:06 AM (mpXpK)

195
189 "The article also stated that other potential candidates "will make room for her out of respect for her and her late husband" if she decides to run in April. "


Vote Cummings - 'Rats Have No Greater Friend!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:06 AM (pNxlR)

196 For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it, Merkel said. Wherever it is possible, we must lower the entry hurdles for those who bring the country forward.

So instead of making Germany a place people wish to stay we will just remake the citizens.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at October 20, 2019 08:07 AM (JFO2v)

197 191 I was shocked to hear we still have nukes in Turkey. They should have been removed before now.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (NVYyb)

I'm surprised you're surprised. Did anyone think Obama would remove nukes from buddy Erdogan's territory? Maybe the big surprise is that he didn't just give them to Erdogan and the Islamists.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:07 AM (U7k5w)

198 "we will just remake the citizens."

When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for the government to cast off the bonds of repression, and elect a new citizenry....


Been doing it here in the US for quite some time now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

199 VIA beat me to it @168.

Though I was thinking battle won, battle lost.

I wonder if PDJT just thinks these folks need to learn, or relearn, this lesson.

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (hFbrr)

200 The Conservative Case for Nepotism

Posted by: David French at October 20, 2019 08:11 AM (wIfek)

201 "137 "Pretty good summary.
Posted by: m "

PDT is the best damn president I have ever seen and I support him even if he makes a mistake, which I don't think he has in the case of Syria. All of the "experts" can prove me wrong once they get elected and kick the shit out of the Dems.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 07:37 AM (Tnijr) "



This !


As far as I can see this is just one of the left / media's more successful attempts at gaslighting.


If PDT hadn't moved the 50 troops, or had sent more troops, the exact same people would be screaming about insane warmongering or some other bs.


Life is too short already without wasting time on garbage.


My 0.02 only, you are not gonna change my mind so please don't try, okay ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (bwo3w)

202 There's no inheritance tax on Congressional seats.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (QrTqV)

203 I am surprised CN because, like The Vic link says, I thought they were out already. Erdogan has not been our friend for a long time, so why tempt him? I keep hoping Turks who have had enough depose him some fine morning but no such luck.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:12 AM (NVYyb)

204
"Rep. Elijah Cummings' widow, Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, may run for his congressional seat, according to a report."
_________________

Isn't she under criminal investigation for something (not that that would stop the idiot Dims in Baltimore from electing her).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:13 AM (k4dH2)

205 We should remove our nuclear weapons from Turkey, probably from the EU as well.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (U7k5w)

206 It is well that war is so terrible.
Otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
________

War is only good if our own country has NOTHING TO GAIN from it!!!!!

SAVE THE KURDS!!!

Posted by: WaterCow at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (NH9pa)

207 I'm hungry again already. And in my last visit to the doc last week he said he wanted be to get my blood sugar down below 150. If I keep, eating mid-meal snacks that will never happen.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:14 AM (mpXpK)

208 I tend to believe that the nukes are no longer on Turkish soil either.

As a matter of policy, at least back in the old days, would be to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at any installation, or on any Naval vessel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:15 AM (cqNba)

209 BTW, I am not in favor of us deposing him. Not our fight. Also, CIA is busy trying a coup here at home so I am more focused on leveling the agency than giving it a job in Turkey.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2019 08:15 AM (NVYyb)

210 184 Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.

she was one of the first make up awards.

Oscar shoulda went to Olivia but no

political, even then

like Irene Dunn, a "virulent" Republican, no Oscars

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:16 AM (rpxSz)

211 @201 -

Concur

Posted by: teej at October 20, 2019 08:16 AM (hFbrr)

212 "Isn't she under criminal investigation for something (not that that would stop the idiot Dims in Baltimore from electing her)."

She was indeed.

Co-mingling of charitable and non-charitable monies involving two firms that she runs.

Oddly enough, no one can find the results of the investigation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:17 AM (cqNba)

213 I heard on the radio yesterday that Sanders has received AOC's "coveted" endorsement. The news readers leave no doubt as to their position.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:17 AM (Tnijr)

214 Many reports say that we still have weapons in Turkey. Others say Obama admin moved them to Romania (who denies it, but of course they would). If Trump says they are in Turkey, I have no reason to doubt him and every reason to doubt that Obama moved them.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:19 AM (U7k5w)

215 196 For a few years, more people have been leaving our country than entering it, Merkel said.
_______________

That's probably because of the shitty kind of people you've been encouraging to come there, Merkel. Germans don't want to stay in Germany and be taxed up the wazoo so that they can support Achmed and his 4 wives and 18 kids.

Quantity isn't quality. And little Muhammad isn't German just because he was born in a Dusseldorf hospital.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:19 AM (k4dH2)

216 Been doing it here in the US for quite some time now.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:09 AM (cqNba)

Cap'n Kristol thought this was a brilliant strategy, and we know what a conservative he is?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:20 AM (U7k5w)

217 Watch Gabbard finesse and slash her way to the nomination. It's going to be interesting.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:20 AM (H8QX8)

218 Vic - Read this. It is not too difficult or technical.

http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/assets/if.pdf

It works. It isn't "easy" but it sure is simple.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (Qirt6)

219 It wasn't pulling out of Syria that will hurt us. It was the execution and unserious way it was handled. Creating that kind of vacuum for terrorist groups and terrorist nations like Iran has never ended well for us. Ask Clinton or Obama. These types of knee jerk actions hurt your credibility in a region where we've had a decent amount. The response to that is always for these assholes to test the boundaries. That means more men at risk. A negotiated withdrawal where we set the terms would have helped lessen the impact- and that's what we were doing. But the president got frustrated and pulled out. I think we're all sick of doing the heavy lifting for these ME assholes, but nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (8ts9m)

220 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

221 So liberals tell me that we can learn a lot from the European way of government.


I am beginning to think they are correct.


https://reut.rs/35OT3Jl

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

222 AOC on Cummings:

"His guidance and vision was an enormous gift. I will forever cherish his example," she added. "May he rest in power"

Not rest in peace, but in power. Sheesh.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (Tnijr)

223 I'm kind of amazed that people still write things like "Trump's p.r. was lacking" regarding anything.

CNN is actually promoting impeachment pr()n and people think he's going to get fair coverage on the Kurds???

Trump exposed the War Party in all its sordid repulsiveness. He also made it clear to the military that Trump has their back - he wants these stupid, endless, unwinnable deployments to end.

That, by the way, is why Soros dispatched a bogus soldier sock puppet here yesterday.

What Trump did do is highlight how much Obama screwed up everything, forced the Dems to go all-in on WAR FOREVER and now he steps back and plans his next move.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (cfSRQ)

224 With allowing private property but only controlled by party members. With concentration camps for political reeducation and suppression of religion. With the repression and forced removal of ethnic minorities.

How is China not only facist but full on Nation Socialism?
Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 20, 2019 07:49 AM (B06Zw)

===

This is my point of view, because the Han Chinese are every bit as racist in their worldview as the Nazis.

I think this tends to be overlooked.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (EZebt)

225 Hey everybody...

'No' is here.


Say Hi to No.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

226 Vic- you getting any flooding brother?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (8ts9m)

227
Germany will solve all its problems with this one neat trick: replace 82 million people with mean IQ of 100 with 100 million people possessing a mean IQ of 82.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:24 AM (pNxlR)

228 I eat one (1) meal a day, about 6 PM. So basically a 24 hour fasting daily. No snacks, nothing. Black coffee. No exercise, maybe 1200 calories a day. Eat whatever you want, just count the calories. Your body will protest, but soon get used to it. 3 meals a day is a legacy of when people worked their ass off outside.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Qirt6)

229 I think we're all sick of doing the heavy lifting for these ME assholes, but nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (8ts9m)

Stop taking on more muslim "refugees" and "students". We don't owe the world an education or a place to live. And I feel the same way about all the other "huddles masses yearning to get on the American benefit merry go round".

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (U7k5w)

230 "It wasn't pulling out of Syria that will hurt us. It was the execution and unserious way it was handled."

It doesn't matter what way it was done, the Dem/GOP/Media conglomerate would throw a hissy fit .

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Tnijr)

231 She would be a perfect fit.

It's Cumming's seat.

Why give it to a stranger.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:05 AM (cqNba)

she's got two things in her favor

she's already a crook

Gary Coleman's dead

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (rpxSz)

232 >> Even the PR aspect of this shows that PDT is not afraid to do what he thinks is right.

Yes, and he has been aggressive in explaining why he is doing what is doing. It is refreshing to hear someone in DC (finally say): we do not belong on conflicts that have been going for hundreds of years, and it's time for someone else in the region to step up. Yes and yes. We did what we intended with ISI, so buh-bye!

Morning, all!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (bDqIh)

233 Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

I'm thinking a McMullin/French ticket should breeze it's way to victory.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (H8QX8)

234
No, No. Just no.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (pNxlR)

235 Damn...that Merkel article I linked to is nine years old.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:26 AM (cqNba)

236 I was talking with my fellow infantrymen this morning at the DFAC, and all of us are outraged about Trump not letting us get another deployment in Syria. The per diem is awesome and the Kurds are nice, friendly people.

The Turks, on the other hand, eat their young. Screw them. We're all ready and waiting to stand by our allies the Kurds and nuke Turkey until the shadows glow.

Anyone up for lynching some Democrats?

Posted by: Rock-Solid Conservative GOP Army Vet at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (cfSRQ)

237 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.



Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (NVYyb)

238 219 marcus t: much there, there.

Posted by: mjc at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (Pg+x7)

239 2029 is a ways off. I expect to be able to fly to Mars in my car by then.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (Tnijr)

240 JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon says controlling capitalist companies is socialism not social democracy, sets record straight


He's technically wrong, it Fascism not Socialism.


https://tinyurl.com/y25svm76

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)



Little SJW Jamie is all in on the lefty agenda except when it hits his wallet. Like so many of the other liberal CEO types. Which is why they love the Clintons and other out and out crooks. They can bribe them to leave them alone while virtue signaling to the world. It's why I want Squaw Liz as the nominee. Let's see all of the millionaires like Warren Buffett who claim they should be taxed more support getting scalped by Warren

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (N88Be)

241 Say Hi to No.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

VIA, I'd rather say No to No.
How'd they get him out from under the bridge this early?

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (+a9vj)

242 237 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.



Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:27 AM (NVYyb)

Don't forget transgenderism. They support that lie, too

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (U7k5w)

243 218
Vic - Read this. It is not too difficult or technical.



http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/assets/if.pdf



It works. It isn't "easy" but it sure is simple.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:21 AM (Qirt6)

Long article. I will read it later but yes, bottom line if you eat a lot of normal food you will elevate your sugar. Sugar-free stuff is hard to find around here and there is not even much at Amazon. I have upped my insuline shot and tried harder at dieting. We will see.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:28 AM (mpXpK)

244 220 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?
Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

LOL!

Thank you. I really did need that.

Posted by: jsg at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (wIfek)

245 "How'd they get him out from under the bridge this early?"


I'm guessing there is heavy rain where he is.

The river....it be a rising.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (cqNba)

246 "Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (U7k5w)"
"Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:25 AM (Tnijr)"

Agree on both counts watching Democrats and their media division on this is like living in an alternate universe. Seeing Pelosi and the Democrats in Jordan would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious. They wont even pass a bill to protect the border or pass our trade deal.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (8ts9m)

247 213 I heard on the radio yesterday that Sanders has received AOC's "coveted" endorsement.
_____________

It's almost funny that her endorsement is "coveted." She's a know-nothing former bartender who essentially won a beauty contest to get herself elected to congress. She probably knows less about government policies than your average 8th grader, but because she has big tits and gets a lot of camera face time, Dim presidential candidates want her seal of approval. Just another indicator of the ludicrous times in which we live.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2019 08:29 AM (k4dH2)

248

Fat black women on OWN blame Trump for their plight




Because they were supermodels before he got elected?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (N88Be)

249 Even though I hate the Never Trump scum like Bill Kristol, we have to admit he makes some good points.

Trump is a loose cannon, a total wild card. A measured foreign policy would involve the US carving out quasi-states all over the place, sustained by pure, patriotic American firepower and sustained by the endless courage of our fearless volunteers who will spend generations protecting these highly lucrative enclaves.

Trump's still stuck on the stupid idea of declaring war, admitting that Syria has actual borders and other b.s. My infantry brothers would never read the Cuckshed, but I hear that scumbag Charlie Sykes did have a good take on this last week.

I'm not going to use the link because I haven't read that scum, though I hear it's really, really good.

Posted by: Rock-Solid Conservative GOP Army Vet at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (cfSRQ)

250 226
Vic- you getting any flooding brother?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:23 AM (8ts9m)

No flooding here, but it has been raining for two days straight. I'm sure there is some flooding somewhere.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:30 AM (mpXpK)

251 "Don't forget transgenderism. They support that lie, too"

Ah...the theory of the female penis.

I often bring that one up in conversation in real life.

Seems a bridge too far for some folk.
And they begin to tip back toward thinking that maybe this whole transgender thing is a mental illness.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (cqNba)

252 nobody wants to see them gaining enough strength again to blow up our embassies, kill our men on foreign bases or taking down another WTC or attacking the Pentagon."

FWIW, each one of those is a direct result of the Colin Powell school of acquiescence. Don't do anything that might offend, you know...

Morning, y'all! Fine Texas AM, so Coffeve for all!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (6qErC)

253 How big a win will PDJT have next election? Bigger than the last one. THe Demofascists have endorsed recession, joblessness, perpetual war, infanticide, racism and total poverty. Not a winning platform, especially when your leading candidates are Creepy Joe and Liawatha.
------

You left out eating bugs, rolling electrical blackouts, giving up your car, and NO SMOKING, Chicks with Dicks Choose Your Own Adventure Bathrooms!, and So Much More!

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (Qirt6)

254 Yesterday was "National Period Day". No wonder I was so bitchy.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (Tnijr)

255 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)



2029? Math. How do it work?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (N88Be)

256 Trump killed Bambi's mom

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (8jYrs)

257 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (cknjq)

258 The stale tropes of conventional wisdom always stage a final desperate rally to protect their barren regions before the onrushing gusts of fresh, bold and patriotic thinking.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:33 AM (H8QX8)

259 The 2020 election is:


[ ] Socialism

[ ] Not Socialism.


Chose only one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:33 AM (cqNba)

260
Trump is a loose cannon, a total wild card. A measured foreign policy would involve the US carving out quasi-states all over the place, sustained by pure, patriotic American firepower and sustained by the endless courage of our fearless volunteers who will spend generations protecting these highly lucrative enclaves.


It is to LOL. Well done.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (pNxlR)

261 I don't think I could get by in one meal a day, but reducing food intake by a lot sounds smart to me. Exercise helps me a lot, keeping the muscles in my legs strong. I need to do that mostly because I have a bad right knee from playing football as a kid. So I eat small meals during the day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (NVYyb)

262 255 Since Trump is pretty much toast, who will run for the GOP in 2029? Pence? Seriously, would he have a chance?

Posted by: No at October 20, 2019 08:22 AM (H0mxs)

I love toast. Especially when slathered with the chunky jam of media and Leftist innards.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

263 Problem isn't just food containing "sugar". It is carbs in general. Bread, pasta, fruit, starchy foods, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (UUBmN)

264
Cannot stale tropes be put to good use like, say, as salad croutons?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (pNxlR)

265 Nobody will beat Trump. I only worry who will follow him. There isn't a single person in the GOP I can think of that has the same temerity to fight.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (8ts9m)

266 256 Trump killed Bambi's mom
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:32 AM (8jYrs)

Which, IMO, an excellent reason to support him. The deer population in NJ is disgusting, and they are less fearful of humans than ever.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (U7k5w)

267 " Especially when slathered with the chunky jam of media and Leftist innards. "

That's not jam.

That's souse.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (cqNba)

268 263
Problem isn't just food containing "sugar". It is carbs in general. Bread, pasta, fruit, starchy foods, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (UUBmN)

The carbs is the sugar.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (mpXpK)

269 "Trump killed Bambi's mom"

I don't believe strippers. They are notorious liars.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (Tnijr)

270 I miss chocolate chip cookies. And blueberry pie.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (NVYyb)

271
Which, IMO, an excellent reason to support him. The deer population in NJ is disgusting, and they are less fearful of humans than ever.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (U7k5w)


Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs. A tree stand in every back yard!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (pNxlR)

272 There's some bint named Heather Cox Richardson that my annoying niece always links to on Farce Book.
She writes fairly well-written articles from the lefty point of view. It's so discouraging - well-written and completely factually wrong. And Mrs. Red points out that they think the same of us and our positions.
There's no way this ends well.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (+a9vj)

273 "Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs."

Crossbows.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (cqNba)

274 Trump hates old people, kids, and dogs

Posted by: Tin Cup starring No at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (wIfek)

275 Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 20, 2019 08:31 AM (6qErC)"

Truth. The question is not whether these threats exist, it's how you handle them. Powell was a giant fail on handling them.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (8ts9m)

276 Sorry,

checking the Vegas o/u on Bernie going horizontal

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (rpxSz)

277 Long article. I will read it later but yes, bottom line if you eat a lot of normal food you will elevate your sugar. Sugar-free stuff is hard to find around here and there is not even much at Amazon.
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Read it, Vic. The whole "diet" thing is a SCAM. They make so much money off junk food, they'd declare martial law if people started to eat sensibly. I'm only halfway joking. I eat whatever I want. I'm not into planning "1PM. Half cup of fat free celery, and 2 ounces of recycled douglas fir sawdust."

F that. Life is too short. I make meatloaf and mashed potatoes and gravy, steak and eggs, reuben sandwiches with chips, milk, whatever you want. Read the article!

The first 25 pages of Goolag results on dieting is probably 90 per cent BS.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 20, 2019 08:39 AM (Qirt6)

278 "There's no way this ends well."

Depends on the definition of 'well'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:39 AM (cqNba)

279 Authorize bow hunting in the suburbs. A tree stand in every back yard!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:37 AM (pNxlR)

I'd love that, but the leftist loons only want deer "birth control", and no killing ever of female deer, which guarantees that the population will continue to soar, deer shit will be everywhere, and that they will only be preyed upon by SUVs.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:40 AM (U7k5w)

280 "but the leftist loons only want deer "birth control", and no killing ever of female deer,"

Mental image of WineMoms putting a condom on a rutting buck.


Now THAT won't end well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (cqNba)

281 A deer got hit by a car that broke some legs, and then crawled to die under underbrush at the side of the house. We found it by smell

There are some jobs that always get relegated to dad. Because ....

I also got to cleanup the dead skunk caught in a rat trap in our garage

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (8jYrs)

282 I pc of toast with grape jam has 45 grams of carbs. That's 1/3 of my daily allotment.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:43 AM (mpXpK)

283 I set up my deer birth control clinic in a tree in my back 40 a few weeks back.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:43 AM (+a9vj)

284 "I set up my deer birth control clinic in a tree in my back 40 a few weeks back."


12th trimester abortions?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cqNba)

285 In Westchester we have coyotes who feed on deer. They're.in the foresty part of Van Cortlandt Park in The Bronx

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (8jYrs)

286 Mental image of WineMoms putting a condom on a rutting buck.


Now THAT won't end well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:42 AM (cqNba)

I doubted the "wine moms" stereotype until I saw it for myself. Last week I took my grandson to a local farm to pick out a few pumpkins and get some of the last Jersey vegetables before the season ends. This farm has a small winery, and there, at 11AM were the fabled "wine moms" swilling goblets of white wine. Move over orange juice, now white wine is breakfast food.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (U7k5w)

287 265 Nobody will beat Trump. I only worry who will follow him. There isn't a single person in the GOP I can think of that has the same temerity to fight.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:35 AM (8ts9m)

Laura Bush

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:46 AM (rpxSz)

288 12th trimester abortions?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:44 AM (cqNba)

Free "pills".

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:47 AM (+a9vj)

289 I'd love that, but the leftist loons only want deer
"birth control", and no killing ever of female deer, which guarantees
that the population will continue to soar, deer shit will be everywhere,
and that they will only be preyed upon by SUVs.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:40 AM (U7k5w)

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They tried this in Ann Arbor. It (predictably) failed.

It's funny because they won't just go all-in and spay the females. That might actually work. Instead, they tried to tie the tubes in order to inflict minimal harms on creatures almost entirely made up of delicious meat.

The result was totes predictable: Females still went into heat, couldn't get pregnant, after the alpha bucks gave 'em a go, all the betas took a shot and since they were still in heat, bucks from outside the area also picked up the scent.

Total shitshow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:47 AM (cfSRQ)

290 Laura Bush"

God help us. America's School Mom.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (8ts9m)

291
Over the course of the past three years our domicile has been blessed by the gifting of fasteners and tools from relatives who either have passed on or have moved out of their long time homes. I have been tasked with sorting through this treasure trove. Yesterday I consolidated easily two dozen pounds of 12d common nails. Perhaps we'll have the grandkids build a treehouse ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (pNxlR)

292 274 Trump hates old people, kids, and dogs
Posted by: Tin Cup starring No at October 20, 2019 08:38 AM (wIfek)

Pelosi, AOC and Talib, no ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:48 AM (rpxSz)

293 I feed the deer here apples by hand. As I'm doing it I say "eat up, one day that Will make you more tender in a stew".

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:49 AM (8ts9m)

294 "The result was totes predictable: Females still went into heat, couldn't get pregnant, after the alpha bucks gave 'em a go, all the betas took a shot and since they were still in heat, bucks from outside the area also picked up the scent.

Total shitshow."

Sounds more like deer gang-rape.

You would think that liberals would be against stuff like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (cqNba)

295 An interview of Crowder on Joe Rogan's show, it auto-played in the background. It took me a while to catch on that the interview is 4 years old.

Crowder saying that the dem nominees don't disagree on the tiniest things. For example, someone like Rogan who describes himself as pro-choice, but as he draws a line on the ghastliest procedures, would never win a primary. They're not capable of disagreement because they lack the small fortitude to discuss at all. If it wasn't for trans people the party would be stuck in amber like the Jurassic Park mosquito.

And he mentions in the gop primary, that Trump said "The Iraq war was a disaster!" For a moment you could hear a pin drop, and then everything continues.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (LxTcq)

296 I doubted the "wine moms" stereotype until I saw it
for myself. Last week I took my grandson to a local farm to pick out a
few pumpkins and get some of the last Jersey vegetables before the
season ends. This farm has a small winery, and there, at 11AM were the
fabled "wine moms" swilling goblets of white wine. Move over orange
juice, now white wine is breakfast food.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:45 AM (U7k5w)

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The local Whole Foods had a display for Easter last spring right when you walked in the store: mimosas. A refrigerator case with nothing but organic, fresh-squeezed orange juice and champagne.

Because Easter Sunday is a drinking holiday to these people.

(Every holiday is a drinking holiday in my family, but we're Irish.)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 20, 2019 08:50 AM (cfSRQ)

297 289: Other NJ residents are depending on a growing coyote population. The lunacy knows no limits.

Bow hunting is "cruel" they say, so I would favor buck shot.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (U7k5w)

298 Celery is a utensil, not a food.

Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (RuIsu)

299 https://www.romper.com/p/a-short-history-of-the-wine-mom-meme-9709313

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (cqNba)

300 Candice Owens can follow Trump.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (hl+Pg)

301 "Yesterday I consolidated easily two dozen pounds of 12d common nails. "

When my Grandpa died, it was like inheriting a hardware store. 10 years later I am still sorting thru stuff.

Occasionally I'll use something out of that inventory that was Grandpa's and I'll look upward and say "Thanks Grandpa!" I like to think he would be happy to see it.

Posted by: freaked at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (Tnijr)

302 Mimosa. That word makes me think of the word smegma.
Nope, not even Sunday evening.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (+a9vj)

303 Mimosa.

Aspirin for Wine Moms.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:53 AM (hl+Pg)

304 298 Celery is a utensil, not a food.
Posted by: klaftern at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (RuIsu)

I kinda like raw celery

but cooked, omg, nasty

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 08:54 AM (rpxSz)

305 Raw celery under peanut butter or cream cheese is good.

Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)

306 "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms

Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 08:56 AM (G546f)

307 306 "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms
Posted by: VMom's phone at October 20, 2019 08:56 AM (G546f)

Did they start drinking before lunch?

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (U7k5w)

308 There will only be one Trump with his unique flair and command over the theatrics. After 8 years of that people will be ready for a change. The problem is I don't see anyone at the moment who possesses his core desire to serve the people and pursue an American agenda, not some corporate, globalist worldview.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (8ts9m)

309 305
Raw celery under peanut butter or cream cheese is good.



Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)
Raw celery with bleu cheese and spicy hot chicken wings are very good.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (D3cJf)

310 308 There will only be one Trump with his unique flair and command over the theatrics. After 8 years of that people will be ready for a change. The problem is I don't see anyone at the moment who possesses his core desire to serve the people and pursue an American agenda, not some corporate, globalist worldview.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2019 08:57 AM (8ts9m

Hey there!
Hello!

Posted by: Candice Owens at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (1GAHG)

311 " "Wine mom" seems like the old 1950s cocktail moms"


Except around here, they all seem to be of the SJW variety.

They talk the same way.

They write comments on social media the same way

They vote the same way

They emote the same way.

And on...and on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

312 Re: hurting when sneezing. I had a heart valve replaced 5 years ago. It's still painful if I have a hard sneeze.

Posted by: Ron at October 20, 2019 08:59 AM (K0xn1)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (pNxlR)

314 They emote the same way.

And on...and on.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

Do they go to those acrylic painting parties to get sloshed, too? I just heard about those.

Posted by: CN at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (U7k5w)

315 Celery cooked with a nice roast is good.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:55 AM (hl+Pg)

rather eat a bocce ball

Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2019 09:00 AM (rpxSz)

316 books up

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

317 Marcus, considering how much has changed over the last 8 years, I'm sure if I have no clue how things will look in two or three years.
But it will certainly be different.

Posted by: RI Red at October 20, 2019 09:01 AM (+a9vj)

318 I guess Mo me is over? I asked and asked about it. Sent message on side board. Crickets. Is it a closed group?

Posted by: AnnaS at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (l4l/z)

319 300 Candice Owens can follow Trump.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 20, 2019 08:52 AM (hl+Pg)

You said it. Been thinking this myself. I'm done with politicians. Owens/Bongino ticket 2024. By my calculation she'll have just turned the legitimate age.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 09:02 AM (H8QX8)

320 Except around here, they all seem to be of the SJW variety.



They talk the same way.



They write comments on social media the same way



They vote the same way



They emote the same way.



And on...and on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)


THIS. They were the same women I worked with 20 years ago who fresh out of college spewed every liberal talking about while not understanding a word of it but they said it and supported it because they thought it made them smart and "progressive". 20 years later they are still as empty headed as ever except they've had a couple of kids and moved the the suburbs and they along with their beta male husbands are still voting the same way and flipping districts to lefty Dems.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 20, 2019 09:03 AM (PZ7zc)

321
Did not clear the posting box entirely, I guess.

Opinions and points of view that struggle mightily to rise to "emptyheaded" when sober are never improved upon when delivered along the path of becoming half in the bag. To wit: our son's in-laws.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2019 09:03 AM (pNxlR)

322
Hattie McDaniel in her GWTW days. Has she ever been slender? And BTW she was great in that role, but disowned it in later life.


https://tinyurl.com/y3r3q58t

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2019 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

A columnist asked her in later life if she resented playing a maid, and she replied, "I'd rather play one than BE one". The black groups went after her with a vengeance, but she did very well for herself. An amazing actress. Just that scene of her and Melanie walking up the stairs after little Bonnie Blue was killed is just incredible. She was THE focus of that scene.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 20, 2019 09:41 AM (9YBqo)

323 AnnaS, I'm sorry that we somehow missed connections about the MoMe.

Again, my apologies and hopefully it will work out for next year.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 20, 2019 10:59 AM (7CZws)

324 18
14 Coffee is done, so can I start on the hard stuff now?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)



Like roof-work?

Posted by: m


Roof work isn't hard, but the landing sure does suck.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at October 20, 2019 11:01 AM (qZdIZ)

325 Vic.

I started on the Zone about 6 months ago. As shown cut almost all bad carbs and moved to more lean meats (which I barbecue) and lots of veggies. Still have an occasional burger and stuff and do about a 16 fast between dinner and breakfast. Threw in riding my bike 10 or so miles every other day. Anyway, I am 60 and have lost 74lbs. in 5 months, but more importantly 10 in. off my waist and have never eaten more great food in my life. And threw away all my meds and CPAP. Do it for a month and then it's easy and not complicated. I am never going back.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at October 20, 2019 11:14 AM (377Zs)

326 1, 9, 38, rub some dirt on it. Get back into the game.

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at October 20, 2019 11:18 AM (7JWs5)

327 Yes.

Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at October 20, 2019 11:53 AM (L9+g/)

328 Sneezed so hard it caused a muscle spasm in my neck. It hurt to breathe, let alone move. Had to get to a physical therapist with ultrasound equipment to relax the muscle.

Posted by: ChupaMe at October 20, 2019 12:01 PM (gGMVa)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (10/19/19)

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The Saturday Night Joke


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Hey Kids! You might just have to get your own damn NetFlix account.

For a much longer time than anyone could have really expected, Netflix’s surprisingly reasonable willingness to look the other way when it came to mass password-sharing was a bright spot in an otherwise cruel and merciless universe. But since nothing gold can ever stay, it seems these halcyon days of virtually limitless password swapping are numbered.

In the company’s third-quarter earnings interview on Wednesday, Netflix executives announced that they’re keeping an eye on password sharing and are exploring ways to crack down on the practice. The company didn’t detail any specific course of action, but, as the Daily Dot posited, future attempts to curb password swapping will likely involve limiting the number of devices or IP addresses that can be linked to any one account.

Logically, this is a perfectly reasonable step for the streaming service to take, and various other competitors in the streaming space have already begun flirting with similar tactics. Disney+ initially announced its subscriptions would be limited to 10 devices, but later claimed the 10-device limit would only apply to downloads on mobile devices following pushback from customers. The platform will still limit the number of devices that can be streaming at once to four — a policy common across streaming services, including Netflix.

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So if you're driving through the Badlands, be careful. Bison return to Badlands National Park.

Little known, highly depressing fact: the bear on California’s state flag doesn’t exist anymore. It’s a California grizzly, and they were hunted to extinction in the 75 years following the Gold Rush, which began in 1848.

The United States maintains a checkered-to-woeful history with much of its iconic wildlife. Consider its national bird and national mammal, the bald eagle and bison, respectively. In 1963, there were only 417 pairs of nesting bald eagles left in the contiguous 48 states. Poaching, synthetic insecticides and habitat disruption all contributed to the decline. Bison, meanwhile, once dominated North America; an estimated 30-60 million roamed the continent in the 1500s. By the year 1884, that number was down to an astonishing 325.

Each of those creatures has made a massive comeback in the last 100 years or so, though, thanks to hard-fought battles by conservationists. The bald eagle was famously removed from the endangered species act in the mid-1990s, and is now humming along (relatively) thanks to a variety of protective measures. And bison, which climbed to nearly 250,000 by the end of the 1990s, are having a good century.


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Capitalism is not alive and well in Columbus, OH.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) — Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein says a lingerie store that doubled as a strip club has been shut down.

Klein announced Monday that Columbus secured an emergency court order to vacate and shutter an east side lingerie store located at 1471 East Livingston Avenue, called “Sexxy 4 Less” that was a front for an underground strip club called “Club Sexxy.”

According to court documents, the Columbus Division of Police began covert surveillance of the premises earlier this summer, obtaining evidence of illegal drug and alcohol sales.

Klein also states that investigators also linked a July shootout at the premises to a homicide that had occurred a month earlier.

Families with children lived in apartments directly above the lingerie store.

“There were armed security guards with body armor, and even the dancers were packing heat, which tells you all you need to know about the danger this illegal club posed to employees, patrons, and the residents living there,” said Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein.


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If it doesn't sound good from the "get-go", what makes you think it will work? College kids should know better.

Alabama freshman Connor Bruce Croll was arrested in Tuscaloosa on Sunday morning after cops say he called in a false bomb threat to LSU’s Tiger Stadium. According to the police, Croll did so because he wanted to get the game canceled and save his friend a bunch of money.

Croll is being held in Tuscaloosa County jail pending charges after being listed as a fugitive from justice, per Tuscaloosa News. An Alabama spokesperson told the News, “Threats and pranks can have serious ramifications and necessitate an appropriate response. The university and UAPD are cooperating fully with the investigation, but we cannot provide any additional details on a pending matter.” He will likely be charged in Baton Rouge.


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Will we ever run out of Participation Trophies? Only time will tell.

Kyle Williams told NBC10 he knew he was dangerously close to breaking the rules Saturday morning when his youth football team, the Conshohocken Golden Bears, went up 30 to 0. The rules of the Keystone Sports League, which features kids no older than 7 years of age, prevent a team from going up by more than 30 points.

“Less than two minutes left I called a timeout because I wanted to pull the starters off the field,” Williams said. “I put kids in there who normally never played.”

When one of the second stringers, a 5-year-old boy, got the ball he ran toward the end zone as Williams ran along the sideline and repeatedly yelled for him to fall down. The boy still scored however, putting the team up 36 to 0.

Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension.

“I have three sons,” Williams said. “I’m not gonna tell my son, especially if he’s running the ball, ‘Don’t go out there and give it your all.’”


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Did you know that the company which made your Grandmother's sewing machine also made weapons of war?

The M1911A1 handgun was designed by prolific arms developer John Moses Browning. The slab-sided semi-automatic handgun holds seven rounds of .45 ACP ammunition and was the standard sidearm of the U.S. military from World War I to the 1980s, a remarkable longevity. During World War I and World War II, companies that produced civilian machinery retooled to produce weapons, including the 1911. The Union Switch and Signal company, maker of railroad equipment, made the firearm. So did the typewriter manufacturer Remington Rand.

In 1939, the U.S. War Department contracted the Singer Sewing Machine Company to build 500 1911A1s. The contract, Educational Order W-ORD-396, was a test to see if Singer could produce 100 guns a day, a number it thought was doable. The War Department got its handguns, serial number series S800001-S800500, but the company was unable to live up to the pace of 100 guns a day.


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This story has been floating around for the better part of a week now. Too funny not to put it in a Saturday ONT.


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THE ONT MUSICAL INTERLUDE


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How to seduce a woman, if you are a Genius Award Winner.
A. [ ] Whisper sweet nothings in her ear?
B. [ ] Gift her with flowers and candy?
C. [X] Whip out your penis and hope for the best?

Nicholas Sheehy, 23, was arrested Friday afternoon at the Dollar General in Ottumwa, a city about 85 miles southeast of Des Moines. Sheehy, an Ottumwa resident, was charged with indecent exposure, a serious misdemeanor.

When confronted by police, Sheehy “admitted that he ‘whipped it out’ referring to his penis,” a criminal complaint alleges. “The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it sexually.”

Instead, the woman contacted cops, who reported that Sheehy “admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification.”

Pictured above, Sheehy was booked into the Wapello County jail, from which he was released after posting $1000 bond.


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The NFL has been spiraling down the toilet the past few years with their SJW shit. But not everyone in the league is a SJW. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day. H/T Bitter Clinger

New Orleans Saints linebacker Demario Davis' has raised $120,000 for a local Mississippi hospital through the sale of his "Man of God" headband that earned him a fine from the NFL back in September.

"This is amazing, it just shows you the power of God... I would have never thought this whole movement would have happened."

— Demario Davis on Fox Nation's "Laura and Raymond"

"This is amazing, it just shows you the power of God," said Davis on the latest episode of Fox Nation's "Laura and Raymond." "You know, I would have never thought this whole movement would have happened — and it's not just here in New Orleans. It's been national."


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the fact that The ONT Is Always Looking Out For You TM

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1 Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at October 19, 2019 09:51 PM (JFzNN)

3 Even read the content.

Posted by: Philemon at October 19, 2019 09:53 PM (IToxY)

4 Huh. Early again. Hmmph.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 09:53 PM (J6P5a)

5 Evening all.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 09:57 PM (axyOa)

6 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 09:57 PM (7WaWV)

7 PARTICIPATION!!!

That counts.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 09:58 PM (x8Wzq)

8 Lotta truth to that bottle cap...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (7s3Gx)

9 Also proves I at least skimmed the content.

Boo.

Yeah.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 09:59 PM (x8Wzq)

10 hoping the Astros win tonight

Posted by: wing at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (JFzNN)

11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

12 Buona Sera, Fapperini!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:05 PM (vhcul)

13 " 'I have three sons," Williams said. "I'm not gonna tell my son, especially if he's running the ball, 'Don't go out there and give it your all.' "

Except that that's exactly what he did to someone else's son, who'd never gotten a chance to play in the game before. He yelled at a five year old to fall down so the kid couldn't get a touchdown.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:05 PM (+lVUW)

14 At this very moment, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton are having a "conversation" in a hall in Portland!

It's very strange - the event allegedly sold out, but Andy Ngo (who is attending) tweeted a picture fifteen minutes before the event was supposed to start showing that about two-thirds of the seats in the front section were empty.

The organizers took special steps to prevent the resale of tickets - after all, the secondary market for Hillary and Chelsea tickets is huge. The cheapest tickets cost $45 (which includes a copy of the book that Hillary and Chelsea "wrote"), while the most expensive tickets were $220, which I'm sure includes a meet-and-greet with Hillary and Chelsea.

Oh - and the total seating capacity of the hall is 850. Hillary's appeal is becoming more selective, you see.

Ngo described the crowd as "filled with middle-age white women, their husbands, and gay men."

I'm so sorry I'm missing out.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (I2/tG)

15 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)

16 >>Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension.

Dura lex, sed lex. You wanna teach kids to break the rules, coach?

Williams' team of kids should've been forced to cut grass for the entire summer.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

17 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (EqKj1)

18 Chelsea Clinton has Nosferatu hands.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

19 Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (x6XkS)

20 15 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)

right??

Texas Mo Me must off da hook, yo!

Did I get the shtreet talk right?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:10 PM (x8Wzq)

21 Demario Davis sounds like a classy guy, who lives his faith. More power to him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:10 PM (QugKX)

22 So, for $45 you get to listen to Hillary list the many, many excuses she's come up with for her loss.
Oh, and you also get a book that lists the many, many excuses she's come up with for her loss.

And as Ace said the other day, "she's plopped out another one."

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (+lVUW)

23 Chelsea Clinton has Nosferatu hands.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:09 PM (XzT/D)

and a bloated, scary clown face.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (x8Wzq)

24 Dandy ONT, Mis Hum! Thank you.

About that guy who whipped it out in the Dollar General Store... I know there is a joke in there somewhere...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

25 Wow, pretty quiet 'round here tonight.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (2PXwn)


Hard to text from the drunk tank.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (axyOa)

26
So the media goaded Bush 1 into Somalia and 30 years later we have imported a fuck load of fucked in the head Somalis to the USA.

Our government is full of fuck heads who import welfare recipients

Not winning

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (EqKj1)

27 >Sheehy "admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification."

Is that wrong?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (jYnPD)

28 The Association. Saw them in 1973 at a little club in Ohio. Was a very good show, (except for the guy who got too drunk and ralphed on my back. Luckily was wearing a jacket.)

"Cherish", "Along Comes Mary", "Windy". Their harmonies were great.

Seems like they got caught between eras and seemed "uncool" to the up and coming hard rock folks. They did do many fine songs.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (RfzVr)

29 About that guy who whipped it out in the Dollar General Store... I know there is a joke in there somewhere...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

You just know that a Dollar Store dick is gonna have melamine in it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (QugKX)

30 Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:11 PM (+lVUW)

Going to see Hillary & Chelsea on a Saturday night. Talk about a sad existence.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (aA3+G)

31 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)

32 If Trump were having that event, instead of Hillary and Chelsea, there'd be 20,000 people inside, 20,000 people outside, and they'd have been waiting outside since 6 A.M.

As Hillary is speaking to her "throng" of supporters, she should think about that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

33 the best thing to happen to bison? capitalism. bison aren't farmed exactly but they are culled, and the meat sold for burgers etc.

they aren't even all that expensive.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (aUjDc)

34 I saw Mit Romney suck a fart from Kurdistan at CBGB in 1975

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (EqKj1)

35 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

The Hokies won in 6 OTs against UNC. Longest OT game in ACC history.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (6rRyd)

36 Sheehy "admitted that he exposed himself for sexual gratification."

Is that wrong?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:13 PM (jYnPD)

Hell, met too. That and having to take a whiz. Mostly taking a whiz.

Okay. Taking a whiz. And that one time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (x8Wzq)

37 31
Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)
An asshole.

Posted by: Peaches at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (14URa)

38 You just know that a Dollar Store dick is gonna have melamine in it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (QugKX)
* * * *

Ha!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (TY826)

39 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:12 PM (TY826)

You're welcome

Not sure about a joke but there could be a song in it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)

40 11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

Still a cool story, either way.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (jYnPD)

41 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?
Posted by: George at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (wuG1L)

Yeah. The time to bring out the bench-warmers would have been when they were up 14-0.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (QugKX)

42 Chelsea is going to need a turn in the clinton family bath. a shame Epstein isn't around anymore to supply the virgins

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:17 PM (aUjDc)

43 Going to see Hillary & Chelsea on a Saturday night. Talk about a sad existence.

Actually, the venue has a restaurant and a couple of excellent bars.

I'm sure that the husbands who were dragged to this thing were pounding them down prior to having to endure Hillary and Chelsea.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:17 PM (I2/tG)

44 the CU Buffs look like an endangered species after tonight. they got slaughtered.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (aUjDc)

45 I'm sure that the husbands who were dragged to this thing were pounding them down prior to having to endure Hillary and Chelsea.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

----

You're talking drinks, amiright?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (Y4EXg)

46 Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

I misread that as thong.

Arrrrgghhhhhh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

47 I kept reading that "Bison return to Badlands national park" headline posted various places and thinking "return, the Teddy Roosevelt NPs (both north and south units) in the Badlands has had Bison since I was a kiddo" Finally I clicked. Ohhh, there is a Badlands national park in SD.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 19, 2019 10:18 PM (n4y+3)

48 Not sure about a joke but there could be a song in it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Quite possibly! Trying to think of one...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)

49 Singer, like most other manufacturers, produced various precision war material.

I recall prowling around a B-17 and noting windows made by Lionel. At least one of the engines was a Studebaker.

As an aside, I have a vintage Singer bench grinder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (Pu/Kw)

50
Willowed:

the White armies spent too much time playing The Running Of The Jew and not enough time consolidating their positions and coordinating tactics
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:07 PM (aUjDc)

-------

This was a problem. But moreso, the quibbling over monarchism versus provisional government. I'd argue that Semenov and the above mentioned Ungern-Sternberg were their best commanders, but Wrangel and Kolchak basically anathematized them.

And it didn't help that Ungern-Sternberg was a barking mad Buddhist ascetic Baltic-German Tsarist warlord who dreamt of a global Mongolian Khanate above the other goals.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (5aX2M)

51 the best thing to happen to bison? capitalism. bison aren't farmed exactly but they are culled, and the meat sold for burgers etc.

they aren't even all that expensive.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:15 PM (aUjDc)

They ranch them here in Alberta, and have for years. I know a family who run a bison ranch about a dozen miles from here. Fences and corrals run big $$, because the critters are so strong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (QugKX)

52 Regardless if PSU chokes this game away or not, my hatred of Harbaugh will never quench. What a douche.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:20 PM (6rRyd)

53 They ranch them here in Alberta, and have for years. I know a family who run a bison ranch about a dozen miles from here. Fences and corrals run big $$, because the critters are so strong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

----

Regular barbed wire would just be a suggestion for those critters.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (Y4EXg)

54 I recall prowling around a B-17 and noting windows made by Lionel. At least one of the engines was a Studebaker.

As an aside, I have a vintage Singer bench grinder.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (Pu/Kw)

The B-17 based at Falcon Field in Mesa has 3 Studebaker engines on it. Saw that last January.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (QugKX)

55 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)


Ted Nugent from Free For All, when in doubt I whip it out, got me a rock n roll band, it's a free for all

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (EqKj1)

57 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aUjDc)

58 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aUjDc)

But if one got sick and died, to bury it would be a mammoth undertaking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (QugKX)

59 Funny thing is, many companies made guns when push came to shove. New England Westinghouse made M1891 rifles for the Czar, Smith Corona produced 03-A3's for Uncle Sam, and the M1 carbine was turned out by IBM, Rock-ola, etc. And I may be mistaken, but didn't General Motors make M3 submachine guns?

Posted by: eastofsuez at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (U2zca)

60 Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (TY826)


Ted Nugent from Free For All, when in doubt I whip it out, got me a rock n roll band, it's a free for all
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

You da man!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (TY826)

61 >>56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM (EqKj1)

Wunnerful, wunnerful!

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (XzT/D)

62 Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:20 PM (6rRyd)

Another thing we can completely agree upon,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

63 In a thread a few days ago a commenter said Netfllix never made a dime and was a losing venture. I said they did report a profit this quarter and have done so for a few quarters now though I put out the option that it was accounting tricks. I also said that they have probably lost more money in previous years as to overwhelm their recent profits. BTW, all this is major paraphrase.

But to be clear, the commenter was right. Netflix is hemmoraghing cash regardless of a reported profit the last few quarters. It is a money losing machine.

My personal issue with Netflix other than their lefty bias is they robbed me. I quite the site long ago but checked in on the account and found they were charging my CC with Brazilian Reals. No way anyone got my account info in a normal way. Somehow someone in Brazil logged on to my "cancelled" account and started charging it in Reals. When I called them the CS rep admitted this was a thing and not singular to me. I was done with them from that day on. Cancelled everything. I should follow up with them as they owe me money., My suggestion is to check even if you cancelled nutflix. In this day and age there is cancelling, and there is cancelling. These guys never really cancel an account unless you stomp on them about it.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (n13/j)

64 I am hoping for a return of the mammoth . how cool would a mammoth ranch be.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:21 PM



A glyptodon ranch would be waaaaay cooler...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (7WaWV)

65 If Trump were having that event, instead of Hillary and Chelsea, there'd be 20,000 people inside, 20,000 people outside, and they'd have been waiting outside since 6 A.M.

Trump campaigned a couple of times in Oregon (not in Portland) last time, and I'm sure will do so again this time - the Trump campaign is allegedly targeting Oregon (at least according to Hillary).

A majority of Oregon voters outside of the county that Portland is in voted for Trump - however, given Portland's North Korean-level voting patterns, Trump still lost by ten points statewide.

I continue in my belief that I could see a Republican presidential candidate winning in Oregon, but it wouldn't matter, since that would mean a Republican landslide nationally.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (I2/tG)

66 Re the Netflix limitations.

When we used to have Netflix (we cancelled when they gave the the Obama's $$$ for nothing, and told them that was the reason) we did share our password with our son.

Gonna limit people to 10 devices?! Oh no, the horror!

I can't even fathom having 10 devices that Netflix would be on. My home computers, that's two. My tablet, my phone, ok we're up to 4. A couple to your trusted family members, we're at six. Who the hell needs more than 10. If you have that many devices, you are plenty well off and can just go ahead and buy another subscription.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (RfzVr)

67 31 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?
Posted by: George


And then runs along the sidelines yelling at a five year old to take a dive.

I went to girls' elementary school basketball games. It was a hoot.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

68 And it didn't help that Ungern-Sternberg was a barking mad Buddhist ascetic Baltic-German Tsarist warlord who dreamt of a global Mongolian Khanate above the other goals.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:19 PM (5aX2M)
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His units had a rainbow coalition of Chinese, Mongols, Buryats, Russians, Cossacks, etc. The man was a uniter!

My favorite fun anecdote was the Baron holding an enemy's head over a train smokestack.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (vhcul)

69 I was in the Badlands (North Dakota) a month ago. Fabulous country, great GOLF COURSE! and cold beer. Highly recommended.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (n/eZB)

70 And I may be mistaken, but didn't General Motors make M3 submachine guns?
Posted by: eastofsuez at October 19, 2019 10:23 PM (U2zca)

GM made the most M1 carbines, IIRC. Inland.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (jYnPD)

71 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (H5knJ)

72 I suppose we already have a giant sloth preserve , on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (aUjDc)

73 The John Inglis company, a Canadian appliance manufacturer, made Browning Hi-Powers:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y29swznl

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (QugKX)

74 But if one got sick and died, to bury it would be a mammoth undertaking.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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Go to your room!

*nice one AOP! Snort.*

Posted by: Tonypete at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (Y4EXg)

75
Surprise Wee-Wee

I thought she would show me her tits
Once she caught sight of my dangly bits
But that creepy ho'
In the One-Dollar sto'
Said my dangly was not worth two bits.

Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)

76 I suppose we already have a giant sloth preserve , on Capitol Hill.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (aUjDc)
* * * *

You are being way too kind...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:27 PM (TY826)

77 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019?

Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

78 35 Penn State is trying to lose this game.


Not hard enough.

Posted by: iron308 at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (vEy8k)

79 Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)
* * * *

*snort*

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (TY826)

80 My favorite fun anecdote was the Baron holding an enemy's head over a train smokestack.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at October 19, 2019 10:24 PM (vhcul)

--------

Oh... I'm partial to "disciplining soldiers for drunkenness by throwing them naked into an icy river and making the survivors fend for themselves against the wolves, and promoting those who survived the second ordeal."

There was a reason that even the demon Dzerzhinsky feared him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (5aX2M)

81 69 I was in the Badlands (North Dakota) a month ago. Fabulous country, great GOLF COURSE! and cold beer. Highly recommended.
Posted by: free tibet



I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (6rRyd)

82 Who coaches a team of 7 and under year olds and doesn't let them all play?

You got scholarship players who have earned the right!

Posted by: That Coach on MadTV at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (Ry8mf)

83 >>71 How boring or weirdly partisan would you have to be to pay to see Hillary and her spawn in 2019? Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2019 10:25 PM (H5knJ)

Would not pay to see her spawn. Would point and stare in speechless horror at observing the act, but would not pay to do so.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XzT/D)

84 Ah, The Association.

When I was a kid, our neighbors named their little dog 'Windy'. Cute lil' rat dog pocket-sandwich football wire-haired terrier... whenever that dog stood still, she'd literally be trembling. Dunno if she was cold or just always overly-excited.

Thanks for the memory, lol.

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (gP/Z3)

85 "Kyle Williams told NBC10 he knew he was dangerously close to breaking
the rules Saturday morning when his youth football team, the
Conshohocken Golden Bears, went up 30 to 0. The rules of the Keystone
Sports League, which features kids no older than 7 years of age, prevent
a team from going up by more than 30 points.
......

Now Williams is facing a possible $500 fine and a 2-game suspension."


The rule is poorly worded/conceived. The game should *end* when one team is up by 30, not prevent the team from scoring. If they want to keep the game going, then don't count the points scored by the winning team. Clearly, the league is run by idiots, but what else is new. *cough* Bud Selig *cough cough*

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XKZwp)

86 Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

Male feminist predators.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (jYnPD)

87 >>Suburban wine moms and middle-aged women with cats. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:28 PM (I2/tG)

Incels.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:30 PM (XzT/D)

88 Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:29 PM (XKZwp)


Rodger Goodell feels slighted pooky

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (aA3+G)

89 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

Worst lead in the world to have: up by two (touchdowns in case). Other team scores and all of a sudden everyone gets real tight.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (IMdOQ)

90 So what is the suburban wine moms thing?


I know

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (EqKj1)

91 40 11 Ha. And I (possibly) own the rifle that shot the last grizzly in Ca., Pacoima, to be exact. A .40-65 "86 Winchester, carried by my gggg-uncle Fred Graves, (son of Graves child survivors of the Donner Party.) He was a turn of the 20th century California Ranger. Of course, I can't prove anything, but as far as I can see, it can't be disproved, either.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 19, 2019 10:00 PM (J6P5a)

Still a cool story, either way.


I am not sure if owning such a weapon is a felony today but I am certain it is an impeachable offense!

Posted by: JB1000 at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (1NxC3)

92 BSU TD !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (EqKj1)

93 Why in heavens name would Nick Mulvaney agree to be on with Chris Wallace tomorrow?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (KSBDE)

94 So has Muldoon retired from commenting, and limericking here at the HQ, or is it just the Limerick-a-Day site that is retired?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (QugKX)

95 During WWII Gerber Baby Food canned food for the army. My grandma who had a fruit farm and couldn't sell much in crops during the depression was suddenly able to sell anything she could grow to Gerber. Some of the farmers were paid in Gerber stocks. After my grandma died, my mom and her sisters inherited Gerber stock that had sat for years growing in value.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (+lVUW)

96 I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.

Posted by: Blutarski at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (VNfwt)

97 Nice Twatter takedown of the 'moderate' Tulsi Gabbard. Her going after Kameltoe and Skankles is great but lest anyone forget, she comes from the toxic socialist stew that is Hawaii. (Mazie Hirono, anyone? Or Hawaiian judge blocks Trump [again], anyone?) As the Twat thread shows, she's batshit crazy, but she isn't as batshit crazy insane as the rest of the Democrat Klown Kar Kandidates. I call that damning with faint praise. Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp. No wonder the soyboys on the right are in love with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2z8ob24

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (Y8PSl)

98 i dont think incels would bother with Hillary events. they hang with Yang.
4chan taught me this.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (aUjDc)

99
I know a bunch of wine moms.

All super cool and fun

What I missing?

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (EqKj1)

100 The John Inglis company, a Canadian appliance manufacturer, made Browning Hi-Powers:



https://preview.tinyurl.com/y29swznl

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (QugKX)
yeah, the hi power was used on both sides in ww2. After they Germans took over Belgium, they made them in Canada as you say. The Brits used the Hi Power right up til very recent times and Saddam loved the weapon. Screw Saddam but the Hi Power is a classic.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (n13/j)

101 Love the North Dakota badlands and South Dakota badlands. Seen lots of Buffalo in both. I love seeing the tourons (tourist morons) try to get close for a picture.

Posted by: Abby at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (2GZs0)

102 >>Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp.

Trump, he down. Respec'.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (XzT/D)

103 Also, auto factories in Michigan switched over to making planes, and so on. There have been a number of companies around Michigan that make tanks and/or tank parts.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (+lVUW)

104 Why in heavens name would Nick Mulvaney agree to be on with Chris Wallace tomorrow?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (KSBDE)

He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone ever again.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 19, 2019 10:34 PM (xPl2J)

105 I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places. Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc. Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

We stayed in Medora at a great hotel. Plenty of eating/drinking places. It was past Labor Day and the Medora musical was over but that is a great time, as is the pitchfork fondue. Gorgeous country. Hiking, biking, four wheeling, etc.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (f6lTY)

106 Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling dooning at October 19, 2019 10:26 PM (qBbz7)

....and Mindful takes up the mantle.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (i/wJA)

107 Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.

Should I?

Posted by: The Monterey Peninsula at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (1+J19)

108 Species becoming extinct is not necessarily a bad thing.

I am glad there are no T Rex or other carnivorous dinosaurs stalking me when I go to the local Kroger.

And unless someone can make a good case against, I would not care if mosquitos became extinct. Gnats also.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (RfzVr)

109 Rodger Goodell feels slighted pooky


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:31 PM (aA3+G)

Roger Goddell did not RUIN the uniqueness of the ultimate championship game of his sport with inter-league play and he did not WREAK PHYSICAL HAVOC on players' bodies by lengthening the playing season. He has plenty of faults, to be sure, but they pale in comparison to what Bud Selig has done to the traditions of baseball.

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (XKZwp)

110 So has Muldoon retired from commenting, and limericking here at the HQ, or is it just the Limerick-a-Day site that is retired?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (QugKX)

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Full hiatus. May or may not return from exile.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (5aX2M)

111
I've often looked into golf vacations at off the beaten path places.
Western Nebraska, Western ND, Black Hills region of SD, Montana, etc.
Those areas usually don't come up with the words Golf Vacation.

Posted by: Puddleglum

i am going to have to agree with you there. Western Nebraska is no Ireland or Myrtle Beach. But that could be a good move if you go in Summer. Some of the Northern US Open courses are the nicest we have because they get relatively less play per year.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (n13/j)

112 He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone ever again.

Maybe it's a training mission. Kid's got to learn sometime.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (g0Lfb)

113 >>extinct

Botflies.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)

114 mosquitoes deserve genocide.

you are right that Jurassic Park should not be a thing.

I still want a mammoth safari.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (aUjDc)

115 As the Twat thread shows, she's batshit crazy, but she isn't as batshit crazy insane as the rest of the Democrat Klown Kar Kandidates. I call that damning with faint praise. Never forget she called the C-in-C, her boss, a pimp. No wonder the soyboys on the right are in love with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2z8ob24
Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:32 PM (Y8PSl)

Tulis Gabbard should be no hero to the Right, but she is a loose cannon on the Donks' gun deck, and that is very amusing in itself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (QugKX)

116 56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment
Posted by: Yo!

When my dad was still alive I would put that on for him on Saturday night. That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

117 What I missing?
Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:33 PM (EqKj1)

It is considered common wisdom that their vote is mush-minded, emotional outburst, probably stemming from the 2018 midterm performance.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (jYnPD)

118 As Hillary is speaking to her "throng" of supporters, she should think about that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)


Hillary is speaking to her thong supporters.

Writing that, I just hurled dinner, lunch then breakfast.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (Y8PSl)

119 Farmington, NM has a public course that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pinion Hills, I think.



Should I?

Posted by: The Monterey Peninsula at October 19, 2019 10:35 PM (1+J19)

what is the green fee now? I would guess $600 -$700 but that is just a guess.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (n13/j)

120 Whoever did the costuming for Lawrence Welk like bright colors and lots of frou frou.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

121 Check out the Golf Course at Devil's Tower. expensive to join but they have a stay and play deal that is outstanding. Very nice "cabins" right at the course.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (f6lTY)

122 113 >>extinct

Botflies.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)

hillary's POTUS prospects.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (jYnPD)

123
Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.
Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm

========

There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (13CQC)

124 Full hiatus. May or may not return from exile.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:36 PM (5aX2M)

That is sad. If you meet him in meat space, please give him my best wishes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (QugKX)

125 I give kudos to anyone who coaches kids bc it is a difficult job, but I agree w the earlier comment that questioned why he didn't put the 5yo in earlier at 14-0. Rotating players so all the little kids can play just seems appropriate at that age.

Posted by: Ever at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (ZZDMQ)

126 >>extinct

Botflies.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (XzT/D)
* * * *

Rattlesnakes.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (TY826)

127 So exactly where those strippers in Columbus carrying their heat?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Uu+Jp)

128 The Odious RBG should go extinct... Soon...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (7WaWV)

129 >>Hillary is speaking to her thong supporters.

Paid to endorse the Feeldoe.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (XzT/D)

130 Until 1800 or so, there were Woods Bison in the east.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Pu/Kw)

131 The Singer 1911 is a classic, rare piece. If there is a WW3, i doubt Whastapp and Pewdiepie will be chipping in to make Sigs.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (n13/j)

132 The Monterry Peninsula is a world famous golf resort so not really off the beaten path. Also, way outside my budget. I'm not planning any trips at the moment. I'm sort of between jobs. I gave a 2 week notice and will start a new job soon (whenever the sec clearance paper work mosy's through the glacial Fed Gov). I have a sec clearance but they don't follow you job to job all that easily. Because, Fed Gov.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (6rRyd)

133 Penn State is trying to lose this game.

Need an OC? Because Mississippi State has a head coach they'd like to get a refund on.

Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (OMsf+)

134 51 Hey AOP I saw that your fellow Albertans were less than cordial to Scoldilocks
How dare you you have ruined her childhood

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (9TR2V)

135 >>I have a sec clearance but they don't follow you job to job all that easily. Because, Fed Gov.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:41 PM (6rRyd)

This is correct.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (XzT/D)

136 BYU QB is named Romney

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 10:42 PM (EqKj1)

137 Hey everybody.

The Association - Never My Love

GREAT song MisHum... one of my favorites... I have the Association's greatest hits CD... but oh man does it make me feel old. It came out when I was 1, and just seems so 1960s-era dated to me. (Dated isn't always bad, it just fades things a bit sometimes.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (L2ZTs)

138 That is sad. If you meet him in meat space, please give him my best wishes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (QugKX)

-----

Secondhand knowledge. Apparently he's done with the internet presence for awhile. If he's lurking I'm sure he knows he's missed though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (5aX2M)

139 There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Camp David. Maybe the military gets to keep out our domestic enemies.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (nIvDu)

140 NFL ratings are back to 2016 levels. Junkies cant stay away. Also why they will keep coming back to the NBA.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (w9bLq)

141 When my dad was still alive I would put that on for him on Saturday night. That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

A classic spoof, by Stan Freberg:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=3g17vqRY6-w

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:43 PM (QugKX)

142 I think Romney is pitching for the Yankees

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (aUjDc)

143 Most sports fans would give up food and water before they gave up watching.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (xPl2J)

144 Green fee at Pebble Beach is $550. If you stay at theLodge it is $500. Lodge is $800/night. 10 minutes away in Carmel you can get a good room for $150.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (jOEDM)

145 History will clearly show that Monica was an acceptable alternative to bedding the fatfuck sow Hillary!

Posted by: Bent dick Bill at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (yhf6w)

146 I wish so many things...on the plus side, these heel-less slippers from WalMart seem to be doing pretty well.
Oops a message from my backup program, so, see you. If you're not lucky.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (l9m7l)

147 123

********
I wonder if PT is going to reveal the Doral bid and compare to the new site cost to prove how ridiculous the hate towards him has gotten, to the point of costing the country money. I'm thinking a rally point. JMHO.

Posted by: Ever at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (ZZDMQ)

148 nerdygirl #116: ...Lawrence Welk... That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

The best one
https://youtu.be/t8tdmaEhMHE

Posted by: mindful webworker - sweet Jesus! at October 19, 2019 10:44 PM (qBbz7)

149 So exactly where those strippers in Columbus carrying their heat?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 19, 2019 10:40 PM (Uu+Jp)


Don't stick your dick in magazines

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

150 Is there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today?

I would guess Frank Zappa's early stuff (Freak Out! and Hot Rats), but I'm not familiar with those...

And for the Zappa fans here, a rarities set is coming out re Hot Rats for its 50th anniversary:

"The Hot Rats Sessions"
https://tinyurl.com/y2h2v4nm

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:45 PM (L2ZTs)

151 Good evening roonz and roonettez, what's everyone up to?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 19, 2019 10:46 PM (T8A10)

152 I had a brief exchange with the good doctor here a few evenings ago... He said he valued my opinion more than most doctors he'd worked with ( ! )...

Not worthy...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 10:46 PM (7WaWV)

153 Good evening roonz and roonettez, what's everyone up to?
Posted by: GGE
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It's gotten chilly here out west. Frost the other morning. You getting rain?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (Pu/Kw)

154 pas moi, the NBA and i are fin. The NFL can be ok but it doesn't have the same importance. They can't make me care again. I know go with baseball and golf. It has never been more clear that these are just businesses., just like the start up down the street. I understand why people care, it is part of our heritage. But the further these businesses stray from that, they risk losing out.

Hell, Millennials in particular care less about main stream sports than anyone.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)

155 There are some amazing golf courses in Montana and Idaho. And relatively cheap, by coastal standards. Also BC and Alberta. That whole area has incredible courses carved into mountains.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (w9bLq)

156 134 Albertan hospitality: https://tinyurl.com/y6mlbt48
https://tinyurl.com/y248tro7
O Canada!

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (9TR2V)

157 I'd love to golf at Bandon Dunes at some point. It's the SW coast of Oregon. Pricey but not nearly as pricey as Pebble Beach.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (6rRyd)

158 who would pay to see Hill and Chelsea..? Furries..?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (ZqRa6)

159 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "

bowie, space oddity

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (aUjDc)

160 Did I just read something about Hillary in a thong?
Arrrg - my eyes.

Posted by: An Observation at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (3HBUR)

161 Good evening horde. The Redneck Yacht Club is having their end of summer party this evening. My wife and I went for a while, it was fun. I bit my tongue and didn't mention summer has been done for nearly a month.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at October 19, 2019 10:48 PM (f9A2A)

162 It's gotten chilly here out west. Frost the other morning. You getting rain?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (Pu/Kw)


Yep, got some today, it was nice yesterday and Friday but we had rain Thursday. It was in the 70s all week but the rain knocked the temperatures back down into the 60's. Looks like fall has fallen all over us.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 19, 2019 10:49 PM (T8A10)

163 >>>56 Made the kids watch Lawrence Welk as punishment

When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..

They behaved.


Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (RfzVr)

164 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "


How about Rainy night in Georgia?

Posted by: An Observation at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (3HBUR)

165 156 Fuck yeah Alberta the first place she ever got pushback

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (9TR2V)

166 My favorite Frank Zappa interview was his last, I believe by Connie Chung. He was on limited time due to cancer (prostate?) and she asked him why he is still smoking. He replied "because tobacco is my favorite vegetable"

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (KSBDE)

167 >>158 who would pay to see Hill and Chelsea..?

"Requiem For A Dream" Jennifer Connelly final-scene kinda thing? Or just boring, preachy lecture kinda thing?

The former? Sure. I'd pay to see that. Some things *must* be seen.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (XzT/D)

168 Thanks for ONT, mishum. 'Night, morons,

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 19, 2019 10:51 PM (jYnPD)

169 164 "there any hit/pop music from the 1960s that *doesn't* sound dated today? "


How about Rainy night in Georgia?
Posted by: An Observation



Some country music hits from that era, maybe? Glenn Campbell?

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (6rRyd)

170 cfomom 163
That's diabolical.
I like it.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Tt761)

171 It has never been more clear that these are just businesses., just like the start up down the street. I understand why people care, it is part of our heritage.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)


People like rooting for laundry (team jerseys, etc.)

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Y8PSl)

172 High in low 40s all weekend. Normal high is mid 50s. All the leaves are off trees already since it has been below freezing every night for the past week. That usually doesnt happen until well into Nov.

Fuck off Al Gore and especially the angry Swedish August. Fuck off to you in particular.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (w9bLq)

173 This course is 3 miles from my home in Alberta.

https://www.travelalberta.com/us/listings/ worlds-largest-golf-tee-1490/

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (QugKX)

174 Space Oddity - early Prog Rock

Rainy Night In Georgia - early Philly Soul (I think)

I was also grooving on the Moody Blues last night. I remember as a 15-year-old in 1981 being very surprised that this "hippie group" (that's how I thought of them) was doing so well with their comeback. I had an art teacher in junior high who liked to play their original stuff during class...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (L2ZTs)

175 laundry, like how Alvarez just shat himself at the plate?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 10:54 PM (aUjDc)

176 I've noticed a lot of late 1960s songs point to the 1970s, and a lot of late 1970s songs point to the 1980s.

Cases in point: I'd bet most people think Rainy Night In Georgia is a 70s song. It came out late 1960s.

And Gary Numan's Cars, as well as a lot of Blondie's early stuff, actually came out in the late 1970s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:54 PM (L2ZTs)

177 The courses in the Banff area are wow!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (w9bLq)

178 This photo was taken by the Baron's Bolshevik captors, after his final, failed Siberian offensive. Behold the stoic defiance. Right before they shot him, he shoved his Order of St. George in his mouth and chewed up the medal, so they couldn't take it is a trophy.

I hope to have such a demeanor, when the Communists take me.

https://tinyurl.com/yy6opeq5

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (5aX2M)

179 If you love cats and dogs, you will go to heaven.

If ONLY cats, it might take a moment longer. For you.
Thank you MisHum for another great ONT

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (l9m7l)

180 I would've fined the coach.

Playing only starters until two mintues were left. He intentionally ran up the score to satisfy his own ego.

I'm not at all surprised he had kids who had never played before. This jackass would've made them sit on the bench all season if he could've.

Posted by: Sjg at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (gDSJf)

181 Just got back to our hotel room after the Texas MoMe - what fun we had! Finally got to put faces to names, are some great food, and got to shoot a machine gun!

Yes, there are pictures, and yes, they can be posted - who's gonna mess with a gal who shot a machine gun?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at October 19, 2019 10:55 PM (CQ8KO)

182 I played Torrey Pines once and thought it was waaaaaay overrated. Nice views sure, but kinda disappointed after all they hype about it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 19, 2019 10:56 PM (w9bLq)

183 actually, I think the only reason some people might pay to see Hillary is because she might fall down and crap herself. Selfies for everyone!

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (ZqRa6)

184 No updates from Andy Ngo on the Hillary and Chelsea festivities in Portland.

Perhaps he expired from boredom.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (I2/tG)

185 mallfly: if Hillary falls down and craps herself, your ticket at her next event is free! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (L2ZTs)

186 This course is 3 miles from my home in Alberta.

https://www.travelalberta.com/us/listings/ worlds-largest-golf-tee-1490/
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:53 PM (QugKX)
* * * *

That's one huge tee!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (TY826)

187 Where will these pictures of MoMe be posted?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (KSBDE)

188 >>Playing only starters until two mintues were left. He intentionally ran up the score to satisfy his own ego.

The 'Melian Dialogue' made real for kids. Children should learn at an early age what is to get the ass-whuppin'.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (XzT/D)

189 cfomom 163
That's diabolical.
I like it.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 19, 2019 10:52 PM (Tt761)


I brought back a tape of Turkish music years ago. My kids hated it.
Hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (axyOa)

190 Where will these pictures of MoMe be posted?

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at October 19, 2019 10:58 PM (KSBDE)


On post office walls.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (Y8PSl)

191 Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)

I still like watching sportsball events. But I do not attach my ego to any one team. Except the Vikings! Vikings!

Not really. I like the game. But I do not talk sports the next Monday.

if the Vikings win, yay!. if not, they still get enormous paychecks.

I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.

I spend little to no money on "The Product." So boycotting would amount to nothing more than me feeling smug about something.

I do plenty of that outside of sportsball.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (x8Wzq)

192 Did PantyFa show up at the Hillz and Chubz bun-toss in Portland?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (QugKX)

193 did the Baron secure an independent Mongolia?

Mongolia, Tibet, and Manchuria were all claimed by the Qing Emperor . post revolution China didn't hold those territories. after WW2 , China had Manchuria back, Mao took Tibet.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (aUjDc)

194

The Saturday Night Joke


That reminds me of Ed Norton referring to himself as a subterranean aquatic engineer. What does that mean? I work in the sewers

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (CEK6U)

195 After my grandma died, my mom and her sisters inherited Gerber stock that had sat for years growing in value.

I should check and see what their stock's worth these days. Gerber's been sold a number of times since Frank Gerber started it. Nestle, Novartis, etc.

My dad was Gerber's head instrument tech for quite a few years until he retired. Maternal grandfather and his first cousin (both Kingsfords) worked there and the latter is in the photo of the 1930's vintage car Gerber used for their early sales.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (7s3Gx)

196 Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Glad you enjoyed.
And your observations about the pets seem spot on

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (aA3+G)

197 One of the best comments about Scoldilocks on Yahoo News:

"Didn't I once see her in a horror flick?"

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 11:00 PM (+lVUW)

198 Doral no longer a G7 meeting option.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm



========



There's always something 4-D with Trump's thinking. What is it this time? I can't believe he just plain surrendered.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 19, 2019 10:39 PM (13CQC)

put it in the worst section of a big city. I think Trump simply did not realize how badly everyone was going to go after him at every turn. They moved the PGA Tour even out of Doral and put it in Mexico. i have no problem with and even in Mexico, i think it is pretty cool really. But the people against Trump will do anything and everything to otherise him. They think it is ok to trash him and all near him incessantly and we will not respond in kind when a lefty Dem gets in

I don't think Doral is a big issue here but what is an issue is how easy it is to stop the president when he wants to do something. I don't recall that being so easy when Obama was in office. Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)

199 My sports watching is mostly golf and racing. Indycars and IMSA seasons are over. NHRA and F1 are still going on. Indifferent to NASCAR. I'm not sure the pro golf season ever ends.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (6rRyd)

200 >>I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.

Yep. And no self-important grandstander (or whiny embargo-fanatic scold) is going to convince Zod not to watch another Redskins losing season, either.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (XzT/D)

201 Hello how was your day, Dear?

It rained all day today. The drought is over!

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (CxzJp)

202 Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best lied.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)


Gotta love all the virtue signaling from the pols of the president's party. As if the left will hate them any less.

Posted by: RickZ at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (Y8PSl)

203 So glad to hear the reports of the spectacular Mo Me. So jealous also. Looking to hear more details as the bedraggled come to and are able to post.

Next year. I am already planning. Gonna take the Texas Eagle there and back (Hubby and I do not fly.)

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

204 No updates from Andy Ngo on the Hillary and Chelsea festivities in Portland.

Perhaps he expired from boredom.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 10:57 PM (I2/tG)


He'll be found tomorrow floating face down in the Williamette River with two gunshot wounds to the back of the head. Ruling will be suicide.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (axyOa)

205 TJM, if you're out there: sorry I missed the movie thread this week. I've been meaning to tell you all about Haxan coming to blu-ray.

I also wanted to mention, Criterion is releasing Fail-Safe on blu-ray and DVD early in 2020.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:04 PM (L2ZTs)

206 I don't recall that being so easy when Obama was in office. Repubs used to say how hard it was to oppose him and they did their best.
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:01 PM (n13/j)

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Of course that's what they said.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (XVuno)

207 did the Baron secure an independent Mongolia?

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Yes. They called him the White God of War because his forces liberated Kutuktu (the Living Buddha) from the Chinese and placed him back on the throne. But it was short lived.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (5aX2M)

208 When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till
driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy
would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume
with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and
blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..

They behaved.




Posted by: cfo mom

........


I love it!
Beer Barrel Polka! A-One A-Two A-three!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (438dO)

209 Yep. And no self-important grandstander (or whiny embargo-fanatic scold) is going to convince Zod not to watch another Redskins losing season, either.
Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:02 PM (XzT/D)

yeah man. Vikings are doing well so far. Can't wait for them to disappoint me again.

*DEVIL HORNS*

*LT Speers voice* "It's all just a game. You're already dead."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (x8Wzq)

210 199: NHRA is the craziest, most fan friendly, form of motorsports, in person. Been to all the others, nitro drag racing is insane.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:05 PM (KP5rU)

211 (Hubby and I do not fly.)

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM



*fistbump

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 11:06 PM (7WaWV)

212 It rained most of the day here as well. No drought here. Had a bunch off outside things to do that didn't get done

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

213 Next year. I am already planning. Gonna take the Texas Eagle there and back (Hubby and I do not fly.)
Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

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With a well-designed trebuchet, you would fly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XVuno)

214 When my boys were at the age of "tweens, till
driving themselves" they knew if they acted up in my car that Mommy
would put her polka tapes in the player and be blasting it at top volume
with the windows down as they arrived at school in the morning and
blazing it in the parking lot in the afternoon..


They behaved.




Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 10:50 PM (RfzVr)

My dad would make us, lovers of hard rock, listen to ABBA as punishment. If we were really, really bad, we had to listen to the whole record album. Yes, he would drag out the record player just to torment us. He now denies it happened, even though it's four testamonies against one, but I think he's just avoiding being tried for war crimes under the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XKZwp)

215 CFO Mom and Zettai:

As I've mentioned here before, I flew for the very first time in my life 3 times last year: Long Beach to Sacramento, Sacto to Denver, Denver to Long Beach.

I'm glad I did it finally... but I'm not really very excited to repeat the experience. If I never fly again, meh.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (L2ZTs)

216 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....!

went to refresh the HQ this AM, only to get a screen that the satellite wasn't paid...

not of burning importance to Resident 3vil, it was only restored a few minutes ago.

and people ask me why i drink.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (P0DGT)

217 210: Maybe next year. The NHRA went to Richmond, VA this year. I assume they'll show up next year too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (6rRyd)

218 today was a wasted day. didn't go to bed until 4 am.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (KP5rU)

219
Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 10:47 PM (n13/j)



I still like watching sportsball events. But I do not attach my ego to any one team. Except the Vikings! Vikings!



Not really. I like the game. But I do not talk sports the next Monday.



if the Vikings win, yay!. if not, they still get enormous paychecks.



I guess my point is this: I like watching football. And hockey. And baseball.



I spend little to no money on "The Product." So boycotting would amount to nothing more than me feeling smug about something.



I do plenty of that outside of sportsball.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 10:59 PM (x8Wzq)
understood. Don't change. The Left wants nothing more than for you and me to change. They want us to abandon cultural tent posts. But the NFL means less to me as they have chosen to be more divisive and less of an American constant. Look at late night tv. Years ago, late night hosts brought the country together. It was late and nothing else was on. We had to share the same experience. Now, almost no conservatives watch late night tv. And the funny thing is, we are not missing anything.

But again, root for your NFL team. I still want my team to win on Sunday. Unfortunately it just doesn't matter as much as it did once.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (n13/j)

220 The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a
pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it
sexually.





I'll allow it.

Posted by: Judge Pornhub at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (RbeRr)

221 what is a good book about 1918 Khan?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (aUjDc)

222 In spite of all the resistance and impediments, Trump is making good on his campaign promises.
2 Supremes and over 150 Federal judges will make for a more conservative future for a generation.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2019 11:08 PM (0bwIz)

223 OffBeat Cinema is showing White Zombie.

I wonder is White Zombie's have privilege over the Zombies of Colour.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (oVJmc)

224 Pets define us.
Dogs love us more than we deserve.

Cats love us...on their terms. Which we are always SO eager to meet.

Dog and cats are our true masters. Some day, we'll recognize that.

Thanks again MisHum.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (l9m7l)

225 As I've mentioned here before, I flew for the very first time in my life 3 times last year: Long Beach to Sacramento, Sacto to Denver, Denver to Long Beach.

I'm glad I did it finally... but I'm not really very excited to repeat the experience. If I never fly again, meh.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (L2ZTs)

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Steve, Sacramento was your big mistake, flying there ruins it for a lot of people, sometimes for good.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (XVuno)

226 148 nerdygirl #116: ...Lawrence Welk... That show was unintentionally hilarious. Sometimes they did "rock and roll" songs. OMG.

The best one
https://youtu.be/t8tdmaEhMHE
Posted by: mindful webworker - sweet Jesus!


So, Geritol and medical marijuana.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (+lVUW)

227 I love flying in airplanes.

I loathe air travel.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

228 Did PantyFa show up at the Hillz and Chubz bun-toss in Portland?

They were busy today engaging in the most Portland of activities - a strike by a militant burger worker's union, which is part of the International Workers of The World. (I am not making this up.)

Among other things, the union is demanding a five buck an hour raise, full medical benefits for all (including part-time workers), and the right to wear left-wing propaganda on the job.

The workers put up a "picket line", which consisted of refusing to let anyone into the restaurant for a couple of hours, and refusing to let anyone use the driven. The cops did nothing, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (I2/tG)

229 Good evening, Horde, and Thanks, MisHum for another rollicking ONT.

LOVE the SNJ - will definitely be using that.

I do have a MIL update, but it's late and we just got home. Mom's doing okay, all things considered, but has been diagnosed with breast cancer (no details on stage, etc). Had left ankle operated on yesterday, and is currently in step-down from ICU.

Unfortunately, her SO isn't faring as well: he transitioned to Hospice this afternoon. The two units' nurses thoughtfully arranged for Mom to visit with him one last time: they help hands and tried to look at each other. It was the most beautiful, heartbreaking things I've ever witnessed.

Finally, our breast cancer walk this morning was wonderful, and out little team ended up #2 in fundraising among over 400 teams total. And your humble ibguy ended up #7 in the individual standings, among some 2,600.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (EHVbt)

230 pookysgirl, I actually *like* the Abba albums Super Trouper and The Visitors.

The Visitors ends with a surprisingly touching IMHO song about death, called Like An Angel Passing Through My Room. Kind of haunting.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (L2ZTs)

231 I developed a fear of flying late in life and spontaneously for reasons I can't explain... I never really liked flying before but it was tolerable...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (7WaWV)

232 puddlegum, richmond is on the schedule for next year. you won't forget nitro drag racing if you are a gearhead.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (KP5rU)

233 Cicero, LOL.
If it helps I never left the airport, which as it turns out is a distance away from the city proper.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (L2ZTs)

234 229 moi

Sorry for the typos, just a VERY long day.

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (EHVbt)

235 today I got up early, had coffee, did a poop, went to the gym, had breakfast, and then... went back to bed.
and then it was 2:45 pm.
not a wasted day exactly but where did the time go?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (aUjDc)

236 Faith Goldy is kinda super-hot when she says "aboot"

Posted by: MAxIE at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (9TR2V)

237 i've been to a strip club twice, i think, the last time a small, fairly grungy place - the stripper took interest in me, eyeing me as a mark, probably, but was definitely dancing to my benefit, which got the attention of a biker type down the bar, who gave me about the worst death-stare i've ever seen - her boyfriend? - there was a lot of tension in the air, i finished my drink and got out of there. the better part of valor and all.

Posted by: mjc at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (Pg+x7)

238 True story

Only listened to ABBA Gold

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (EqKj1)

239 "The defendant stated that he had seen someone do it in a pornographic film and believed that the female patron may respond to it sexually."


Man, don't tell me you can't even put your faith in porn.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 19, 2019 11:11 PM (oVJmc)

240 I've only read one book about him - "The Bloody White Baron," by James Palmer. It was pretty good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (5aX2M)

241 I might get into the professional bull riding association. They don't seem likely to go full lefty for some reason.

Posted by: Quint at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)

242 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/yxlcozxq

https://tinyurl.com/yxj743pb

https://tinyurl.com/y4carjzb

https://tinyurl.com/y5f37evq

Posted by: kbdabear at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (qAR6u)

243 The workers put up a "picket line", which consisted
of refusing to let anyone into the restaurant for a couple of hours, and
refusing to let anyone use the driven. The cops did nothing, of
course.


Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (I2/tG)

Send in Scrubs Guy from yesterday's post. He'll break up the line.

"GTFO! I gotta get back to work! WTF is wrong with you people?!"

Posted by: pookysgirl, tote anthropologist at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (XKZwp)

244 227 I love flying in airplanes.

I loathe air travel.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

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1. TSA Pre-Check
2. Asian carrier
3. Business class

You're in like Flynn.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:12 PM (XVuno)

245 Abba also had a non-hit song on the album Super Trouper, called On And On And On.

Kind of funny. It pokes fun at what passed for 'night life' in the late 1970s/early 1980s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (L2ZTs)

246 Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:10 PM (


You're forgiven


This time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (aA3+G)

247 The cops did nothing, of course.

It's been eight days now, and the Portland cops have still made no arrests in the case of the Antifa-guy killed by an SUV riddled with bullet holes, and have yet to provide any explanation of what happened, thereby complying with Antifa's demand that no one talk to the news media.

I thought better of the Portland Police Bureau, but my level of cynicism is rapidly rising.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (I2/tG)

248 >>>With a well-designed trebuchet, you would fly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:07 PM (XVuno)

That might actually be fun! Airlines, not so much.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:13 PM (RfzVr)

249 Antifa=mafia.
RICO time.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (aUjDc)

250 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (vQ89V)

251 You guys and gals are all great. I love all of you.

If you were dogs and cats, I'd pet all of you. You dogs would love being petted. You cats would pretend to hate every moment of being petted, but would actually love every moment and would scratch if such moments were interrupted.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

252 Boss dragged me to The Diamond by the San Diego airport.

Hottest strippers

Worst was dragged to strip club in Ensanada Mexico on same work trip, not hot there

Posted by: Yo! at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (EqKj1)

253 PS I am not actually a cat.

DAMN IT.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 19, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

254 249 Antifa=mafia.
RICO time.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 19, 2019 11:14 PM (aUjDc)

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RICO assumes they have assets to take.

A box of Kleenex and a premium subscription to pornhub aren't assets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:16 PM (XVuno)

255 ladyl!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 19, 2019 11:16 PM (KP5rU)

256 They were busy today engaging in the most Portland
of activities - a strike by a militant burger worker's union, which is
part of the International Workers of The World. (I am not making this
up.)


Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:09 PM


Holy shit, what a bunch of self-entitled, economically illiterate freaks.

https://twitter.com/BVWkrUnion

Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (OMsf+)

257 Hey fappers.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

258 I've been commuting across the Minnesota River valley for almost 30 years. Within the last 10 I'd probably see a bald eagle once a month. Over the last couple years it's almost a daily occurrence. It's really something.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (4UlPP)

259 RICO assumes they have assets to take.

Two kinds of Antifa people: broke losers, and trust fund babies (like Tim Kaine's kid).

Don't assume that they don't have assets.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (I2/tG)

260 ibguy, that is so sad. Prayers being said for all involved. May God give peace.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (RfzVr)

261 Chavez!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (vQ89V)

262 eyeing me as a mark, probably,"

"She belong to that man Jose"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (6qErC)

263 "According to court documents, the Columbus Division of Police began covert surveillance of the premises earlier this summer, obtaining evidence of illegal drug and alcohol sales."

I wonder how many beejers and lines of coke the vice cops went through before they decided they had enough evidence...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

264 Hey fappers.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:17 PM (NWiLs)

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*high five*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XVuno)

265 246 MisHum

Posted by: ibguy at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (EHVbt)

266 >>a militant burger worker's union

Haha.

I said 'no pickles,' prole.

Posted by: Zod at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XzT/D)

267 I thought she belonged to Bad Man Jose

Posted by: Texican ette at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (xQ9Ht)

268 *high five*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (XVuno)

Uh, would you mind washing your hands first? Just in case.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 19, 2019 11:19 PM (NWiLs)

269 Pro Tip: Never let a commie make your burger.