Boehner: Amnesty 2014 Or Bust

I'll just leave this here without further comment.

Speaker John Boehner and other senior House Republicans are telling donors and industry groups that they aim to pass immigration legislation this year, despite the reluctance of many Republicans to tackle the divisive issue before the November elections.

Many lawmakers and activists have assumed the issue was off the table in an election year. But Mr. Boehner said at a Las Vegas fundraiser last month he was "hellbent on getting this done this year," according to two people in the room.

Added: Senator who partnered with Democrats to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill that Obama would sign in a heartbeat, fumbles and flips around on amnesty some more.

“I think this administration has probably reached the point of irreconcilable differences with regards to trust, particularly among Republicans,” Rubio explained during a conversation at a Texas Tribune event on Tuesday.

...

“There is a true distaste--and rightfully so--for comprehensive pieces of legislation,” he said.

Rubio explained that he believed that immigration would always have to be addressed in a sequential process.

“It doesn’t happen all at once, but I think it’s a lot better than continuing to go in circles here, and this all-or-nothing approach that for 14 years has led to nothing.”

So....we're just supposed to forget that less than a year ago he was the GOP poster-boy for what he's now saying is bad policy?

Rubio should stick to giving speeches about how much he loves America. He's very good at that. He's not quite as good at actual politics.

As Churchill once said about returning to the Conservative Party after abandoning it for the Liberal Party, "Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.". Rubio, who has gone from amnesty opponent to supporter and is now trying to get back to opponent, does not have Churchill's level of ingenuity.

Posted by: DrewM. at 10:57 AM




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1 No further comment needed.

That's just click-bait.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 10:59 AM (MPIX5)

2 Oh, and foist.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 10:59 AM (MPIX5)

3 *drinks*

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

4 NO and HELL NO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 10:59 AM (t3UFN)

5 Stupid Party assemble!

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 18, 2014 11:00 AM (rXcBX)

6 In Las Vegas?

Did Harry offer him a cut from the solar panel deal on the Bundy Ranch?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:00 AM (aTXUx)

7 That orange tanning crap seems to affect Boehner the same way botox affects Pelosi.

Posted by: Beer Ninja at April 18, 2014 11:01 AM (GhDQ1)

8 Dammit! The whole blog is going to need a Chill Groove track.

Posted by: Andy at April 18, 2014 11:01 AM (2OaXr)

9 Can any of them explain why this would be a good idea beyond #ActsOfLove?

Fuck acts of love, that's what families are for. Not for the government.


Posted by: Dave C at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (6jCDY)

10 Boehner lies to us all the time, so why should anyone give any credence to this report?

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (GOoUs)

11 What fucking part of the word represent/representative doesn't he understand?

I don't ever remember hating a republican like this douche.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (HVff2)

12 Burn. Him. With. Fire.

Posted by: acat at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (4UkCP)

13 Boehner lies to us all the time, so why should anyone give any credence to this report?

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (GOoUs)

If he lies to us, he will also lie to big business. The question here who is he lying to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (t3UFN)

14 This would be a great way to convince me not to vote Republican in 2014 and 2016, but I'm a Tea Party supporter so Boehner doesn't want me in the GOP anyway.

Posted by: DRJ at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (1Mxs7)

15 All we need is a 'realist' to explain to us that it's all a lie. The Good Masters would never do something like this.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (uhAkr)

16 Off, you chinless sock!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (uhAkr)

17 Lord, here we go again. Everyone is going to get a case of the Vapors over this announcement, just like the 357 announcements before it. Not going to happen in an election year.

Posted by: Registered Voter at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (AHX9J)

18 I don't ever remember hating a republican like this douche.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (HVff2)


the senile bastard from AZ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (t3UFN)

19
10 Boehner lies to us all the time, so why should anyone give any credence to this report?
Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (GOoUs)


Because he's been looking to do this since 1 day after the 2012 elections. There's even an article quoting his desire for it.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (LI48c)

20 Fuck Boehner in particular.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (Gth7i)

21
Tsunami. November.


Right?


hahahaha

Posted by: Soothie § at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (Dv34P)

22 READY...... FIRE!.....AIM

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (32Ze2)

23 I wish I lived in Boner's district. I'd vote for the democrat, god forgive me.

Posted by: Whitey99 at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (TRkgs)

24 Can any of them explain why this would be a good idea beyond #ActsOfLove?


I'm sure Boehner's amnesty agenda is being pushed by some corporate interest with a major lobbying presence on K Street.

My guess is Agri-biz. Cheap farm labor.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 11:05 AM (i5GO4)

25 Tell me again that there's a difference between our "two" parties.

Anyone?

Where are all the howling GOPe monkeys from yesterday?

Posted by: Citizen X at April 18, 2014 11:05 AM (7ObY1)

26 Status update.

Mouth, promise, broken.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:06 AM (/KiIU)

27
11 What fucking part of the word represent/representative doesn't he understand? I don't ever remember hating a republican like this douche.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (HVff2)


He's not a representative. He's a "Facillitator."

http://tinyurl.com/mf9n2yq

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:06 AM (LI48c)

28 Seriously, isn't this a big "so what?" report? Boehner is dodging rotten tomatoes coming from all directions right now, because the GOP hasn't got an ideological leader setting the tone for the party. We all know there is no fucking way amnesty will pass this year.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (GOoUs)

29 In before a commenter attacks Drew for being divisive.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (uhAkr)

30 Fuck all these guys with the Washington monument in their ass.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (Q8vlx)

31 The question here who is he lying to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (t3UFN)

My guess is that the people who write the biggest checks get the most honesty.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (QFxY5)

32
23 I wish I lived in Boner's district. I'd vote for the democrat, god forgive me.
Posted by: Whitey99 at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (TRkgs)


I do. I will be voting for Winteregg in the primary. And in November I will not vote for Boehner if he is on the ballot, and will vote for the Democrat.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (LI48c)

33 So the GOP doesn't really represent us anymore and to change that out, we need spirited primaries.

Last time that happened we got Christine O'Donnell running for the Senate in Delaware.

Sweet Meteor of Death or Giant Volcano.. Please happen.

Posted by: Dave C at April 18, 2014 11:08 AM (6jCDY)

34 Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:07 AM (LI48c)

Have you told him, loudly, repeatedly, and with contempt in your voice?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:08 AM (QFxY5)

35 Import moar unemployment Fing brilliant

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 11:08 AM (tf9Ne)

36 "Las Vegas fundraiser"

Fishing in Harry's private pool? Naughty naughty...

Posted by: HAL at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (AIC5Z)

37 Boehner (et al?) already has cushy jobs lined up lobbying or "running"
various crony-capitalist industry organizations. The level of cushiness
depends strongly on whether amnesty passes. It does not depend at all on how Republicans do in November.

Posted by: gs at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (Wc9US)

38 you are all morons. All of you.

Boehner is playing 10th dimensional chess.
Here's why:

1) Pass Amnesty to enable additional millions of people to sign-up for ObamaCare immediately
2) ???
3) Victory!

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (4CVLy)

39 Awesome! I see the GOP strategy is laid out for our victorious 2016 KrispyKreme/Bush winning ticket! I'm so psyched.

Since it is Good Friday, I will do my best not to swear. When the GOP tells me (AGAIN) that we must save the Republic from Hillary, by voting for KrispyKreme/Jebby/Mr.Amnesty, etc. etc. etc. you can take a long walk off a short plank. I'll be at home.

Posted by: rightwingva at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (kCnae)

40
If you haven't figured it out yet, Democrats want obamnesty only if Republicans pass it with them.

Amnesty will kill the GOP in the long run.
But Republicans passing amnesty will kill the party instantly; which is what the D's are angling for.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (Dv34P)

41 "hellbent" Interesting choice of words. Isn't that the position one assumes before the barbed cock?

Posted by: Tantorious Maximus at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (uIpVh)

42 Here's a game of hot potato the states are starting to play.

I heard of an anchor baby (Mexican parents) who needs a heart transplant. Baby has Medicaid from one state, a state that does not have a heart transplant program for children. Transplant surgeons in another state discussing what to do with the baby, made the comment to the effect of, "That state's Medicaid program doesn't treat us very well, the baby should go somewhere else for the transplant." Oooh, oooh, hot potato, hot, hot, hot.

Mexico, successfully outsourcing its pricey indigent medical care to the U.S. since 1964

Posted by: S. M. at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (MKpBT)

43 Tar. Feathers. Rail to push this piker on out of DC.


You, Sir, have entered the RINO zone!

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (zL/eJ)

44 What a surprise.

Shocking.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (V0aFE)

45 I hope Boehner's primary opponent puts this into an ad today. God I hate the GOP.

Posted by: rrpjr at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (s/yC1)

46 38 you are all morons. All of you.

Boehner is playing 10th dimensional chess.
Here's why:

1) Pass Amnesty to enable additional millions of people to sign-up for ObamaCare immediately
2) ???
3) Victory!

-
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 18, 2014 11:09 AM (4CVLy)

--Threadwinner at only #38.

Posted by: rightwingva at April 18, 2014 11:10 AM (kCnae)

47 *sniff.. sniff* B b but who is going to clean my house? Do my garden? Apply my spray tan?

*sniff... sniff*

Posted by: Jon Boner at April 18, 2014 11:10 AM (32Ze2)

48 I choose "Bust". That's an option, right?

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at April 18, 2014 11:10 AM (N8Ijm)

49 28 Seriously, isn't this a big "so what?" report? Boehner is dodging rotten tomatoes coming from all directions right now, because the GOP hasn't got an ideological leader setting the tone for the party. We all know there is no fucking way amnesty will pass this year.

It's very sad when Boehner's best defense is that he's like North Korea, and his threats to destroy us aren't credible.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:11 AM (uhAkr)

50 *bashes head against wall*


OK, that's it. I'm out before I hurt myself.

Time to hit the garden!

Posted by: Y-not at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (zDsvJ)

51 At Breitbart they claim his staff has tried to walk this back.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (thLL8)

52 Tantorious Maximus, a really good point.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (V0aFE)

53 I had a link to it this morning Drew but tinyurl went down and is probably still down. Boner needs to go.


My response:



Why is the RNC leadership so intent on destroying the Party?





Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (T2V/1)

54 >>>Speaker John Boehner and other senior House Republicans are telling donors and industry groups that they aim to pass immigration legislation this year

Why wait for a better position with the Senate in Republican hands? You might win the hand, if you want to lose you had better fold now!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Now Posting From Chrome at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (0q2P7)

55 Watching the GOP commit suicide is interesting...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (tVTLU)

56
New York/New Jersey Moron Meet-up

Thursday, May 1st
6pm-9pm
West Village

All Morons and their handlers are welcome.

for additional info, email me at: nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (QFxY5)

57 John Boehner has been a bit of a disappointment.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (QupBk)

58 F the Party of St00pid.

Let.
It.
Burn.

Wendy Gruel for Congress!

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (q+fqH)

59 I hate the GOPe.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (4df7R)

60 17
Lord, here we go again. Everyone is going to get a case of the Vapors
over this announcement, just like the 357 announcements before it. Not
going to happen in an election year.

Posted by: Registered Voter at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (AHX9J)


It will happen in late Nov or in Dec

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (T2V/1)

61
Ms. Pelosi, start boxing up your stuff. You're moving back into the Speaker's office in January

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (kdS6q)

62 and In b4 the Republican toadies!

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (QupBk)

63 Have you told him, loudly, repeatedly, and with contempt in your voice?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:08 AM (QFxY5)


I can't trust myself to do that without winding up on a list somewhere. Here's something though. In all the years I've lived in his district, I never remember seeing more than one ad for his election, and that's run before the actual election. He's been running them for the primary this year.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (LI48c)

64 I refuse to be a punching bag for these fucktards again. I'm voting Libertarian party from this day forward.

GOP=Dead to me.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (thLL8)

65 Y'all are just criticizing Boehner because he is a dark-skinned individual.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM (MKpBT)

66 You want Fonzie

You'll take Richie

You get Potsie Boehner.



Sit on it, Potsie

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 11:15 AM (BAS5M)

67 My guess is Agri-biz. Cheap farm labor.


Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 11:05 AM (i5GO4)


Not just farm labour, but the tech industries as well. It's not just illegals, but also easing all the H1-B visa process for tech workers to come in.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 11:16 AM (GQ8sn)

68 Just imagine if the GOP were a real opposition party..... These schmucks win in spite of themselves.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 11:16 AM (32Ze2)

69 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:11 AM (uhAkr)
=====================

OK, I concede. Because that was the most awesome reply evah.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:16 AM (F58x4)

70 Amnesty 2014 Or Bust




I vote Bust.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:16 AM (d0Dmj)

71
My congresscritter, who seems like a good little Republican, will easily win her election this year.

I'm still going to be informing her that she isn't going to get my vote, or any of my money, because of John Boehner.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 11:17 AM (TOk1P)

72 Because fuck you, that's why.

Posted by: Daddy Warpig at April 18, 2014 11:17 AM (kTxjv)

73 Si se puede come se llama me llamo en fuego.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 11:17 AM (fWAjv)

74 John Boehner - November 08, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/ptt3jah

"“It’s an important issue that I think ought to be dealt with. This issue has been around far too long,” the Ohio Republican told ABC’s Diane Sawyer in an interview. “While I believe it’s important for us to secureour borders and to enforce our laws, I think a comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I’m confident that the president, myself, others, can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all.”
The gutless fuck has been wanting to do this for a long time.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 11:17 AM (LI48c)

75 What could go wrong? Blanket amnesty worked so well for us last time.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 11:17 AM (32Ze2)

76 Fuck acts of love, that's what families are for. Not for the government.




Posted by: Dave C at April 18, 2014 11:02 AM (6jCDY)

Well, it's for you own good.

Posted by: TSA at April 18, 2014 11:18 AM (AWmfW)

77 It's clear that Boehner wants immigration reform, even if he has to use Democratic votes to get it:
http://tinyurl.com/mp9uusx.

Posted by: DRJ at April 18, 2014 11:18 AM (iqHi+)

78 Now we know why he was crying at that Taco Bell event.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:18 AM (/KiIU)

79 Luckily, I get to sit this one out.

No Senate election in PA. So no worries about Obama's SCOTUS picks.

My current Rep is a stone NE liberal who has voted with the establishment every effing time. (district mostly encompasses Reading, Allentown and some other New York/New Jersey fleeing transplants who brought their insanity with them.)
And I live in a Gerrymandered conservative section 60 miles from all that but it's a tiny slice so we have about as much influence on the outcome as a fart in a hurricane.

The only thing I could do that might give me a sense of accomplishment is to vote Democrat so's the GOP gets the smug wiped off their face . . . maybe.

So this election's a wash for me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:18 AM (JS0vr)

80 I vote Busty.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:16 AM (d0Dmj)


Fixed.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 11:18 AM (GQ8sn)

81 Amnesty 2014 Or Bust

>>>

I vote Bust.

>>>



Me too. And the bigger the better.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (BAS5M)

82 They're running "World at War" on the History channel. It's somewhat refreshing.

American politicians who speak clearly and with passion (for both war and isolationist)

Extended 'Rosie the Riveter' sequences and shots of women taking off their stockings for the war effort.

My favorite: A fire-plug of an carpenter - hand saw tucked under his arm and his tool box in his other hand - a Bob Hoskins look-alike saying:

I agree with our first president - Washington - we should avoid attachments and entanglements
in foreign affairs, especially those of Europe.

-

Sum-uva-bitch. Ordinary, plainspoken tradesman quoting a relevant passage from Washington's farewell address when asked about his thoughts regarding an issue of national importance ...

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (4CVLy)

83 it can't be farm labor: Failifornia is letting all our farms die to either save bait fish or tear down dams...

and the rest of the farm land is going to be unusable because "global warming".

must be because the new citizens are natural conservatives that will lead the GOP to electoral dominance, right?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (q+fqH)

84 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:12 AM (QFxY5)
=================

Disappointed to say I cannot be there. I'm in DC that day, offering myself as tribute to our rulers in hopes they will leave my family in peace for a day or two.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (F58x4)

85 Posted by: Whitey99 at April 18, 2014 11:04 AM (TRkgs)
Granted it is Holy Week, no need to ask for forgiveness as their really isn't much difference between a Boner and a Democrat.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (HVff2)

86 77 It's clear that Boehner wants immigration reform, even if he has to use Democratic votes to get it:
http://tinyurl.com/mp9uusx.


Voice vote!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:19 AM (uhAkr)

87 73 Si se puede come se llama...


****

I know you can eat a llama, but why would you want to.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (MKpBT)

88 It's all part of our grand strategery. You little people wouldn't understand.

Posted by: Highly Paid GOP Consultant at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (2jF2B)

89 I don't ever remember hating a republican like this douche.
Thank you, my friend, for that nod of support.

Posted by: j. mcain at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (hn5v5)

90 And just in case you missed it a few days ago, here is the Executive Director of the Republican Party of Virginia basically calling conservatives racists. You know, open borders is very conservative now!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lasknza

I guess the Tea Party and conservatives should just sit the next few elections out. Looks like Boehner and Kenney have it all planned out.





Posted by: rightwingva at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (kCnae)

91 If he lies to us, he will also lie to big business. The question here who is he lying to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (t3UFN)

It's more likely he's lying to us than to the people who write him big checks.

Posted by: KG at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (p7BzH)

92 Voice vote!

Deemed passed.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (thLL8)

93
57 -

In the same way the Titanic's initial voyage was a bit of a disappointment.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 11:21 AM (TOk1P)

94 Well, the good news is, we won't have Boehner as Speaker after that. Unfortunately the Speaker will be a Democrat...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 18, 2014 11:21 AM (XO6WW)

95 Since amnesty is a poison arrow aimed straight at the heart of the American middle class,

a bullet aimed straight at the American poor,

a noose around the neck of American young,

and will effectively cancel out my vote for the rest of my life with 30-40 million new Democrat voters,

if they pass it, I'm done with the Republican Party and will work to defeat it wherever and whenever possible.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 18, 2014 11:21 AM (0cMkb)

96 Well, the good news is, we won't have Boehner as Speaker after that. Unfortunately the Speaker will be a Democrat...


Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 18, 2014 11:21 AM (XO6WW)


Pelosi.


Ugh...

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 11:21 AM (GQ8sn)

97
A day after reports that House Speaker John A. Boehner is telling fundraisers he is determined to get an immigration bill done this year, the Ohio Republican’s spokesman walked those comments back slightly, saying any action will still depend on President Obama.

Wapo



"Eppur si muove"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 11:22 AM (kdS6q)

98 Karl Rove will be on Fox News for the next 6 months to explain why you are all brown hating racists. Just the opposite of Jeb.

Fuck Fox News as well.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:22 AM (thLL8)

99 94 Well, the good news is, we won't have Boehner as Speaker after that. Unfortunately the Speaker will be a Democrat...


Since the crying orange drunk took over, most of what he's done has been to get his stooges and Democrats to pass bills for Obama to sign.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:23 AM (uhAkr)

100 Immigration Reform is going no where.

Posted by: Dick Morris at April 18, 2014 11:24 AM (32Ze2)

101 Boehner got a boner for mexican voters.

And a tear.


Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:24 AM (OZmbA)

102 OMG. Speaking of Pelosi - Headline on Drudge:

POPE PELOSI WASHES FEET OF IMMIGRANTS


How can this abortion supporter walk into a church without bursting into flames?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (d0Dmj)

103 The Stupid Party™ continues its march into oblivion.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (kbOju)

104 Pass it, and see the end of the GOP you idiots

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (/i3Yt)

105 Whoa! Gray bar hotel?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (d0Dmj)

106 Whoa

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (fWAjv)

107 What I've not understood is why it is considered "inhumane" to send people back to the country that they presumably spent most of their lives in before hopping our border?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (YYJjz)

108 There are two groups who want amnesty:


Agribusiness and chicken processors to hold down wages (and that has always been the main draw for open borders, even in the early 1900s.


Democrats who see a new endless supply of voters.


Those high-tech H1B visas that folks talk about are a different animal all together. They are NOT amnesty, but the high tech companies want them for the same reason; hold down wages. Currently we have have a LOT of unemployed high tech workers. There is no reason what-so-ever to import another batch except for cheap labor.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (T2V/1)

109 The blog has become slim shady.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:26 AM (JS0vr)

110 Did somebody dim the lights in here?

Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:26 AM (OZmbA)

111 I feel boxed in...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:26 AM (4df7R)

112 I like it. Can you add just a bit of chartreuse ?

Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:26 AM (OZmbA)

113 the Ohio Republican’s spokesman walked those comments back slightly, saying any action will still depend on President Obama.

We all know Obama is reluctant to talk about something other than Obamacare, and he sure wouldn't want a big bill which would put a wedge into his opposition before an election. And telling your donors you are committed to getting something passed wouldn't weaken your negotiating position at all.

What an orange retard. What idiot would be stupid enough to believe this lame spin?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (uhAkr)

114 Who boxed in the blog?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (aTXUx)

115 Suddenly I feel like I'm in a early Cure video.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (TOk1P)

116 You better not be puttin' me in no box!!

Posted by: Bossy Box at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (VjL9S)

117 O.K who ate the magic brownie?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (/KiIU)

118 Magnitude-7.5 earthquake shakes Mexican capital


Perhaps no longer an issue.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (thLL8)

119 Amnesty 2014 Or Bust



I'll take "Bust" for the Daily Double, Alex.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (4df7R)

120 We're going to need a bigger barrel

Posted by: Chief Brody at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (aTXUx)

121 As Paul Giamatti said in the Howard Stern movie: you god**mn mother f**kers!

Posted by: Keena at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (RiTnx)

122 50 Shades of Grey?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:27 AM (JS0vr)

123 Drudge says Boehnaers office issued a statement saying "we didn't think anyone would notice, so we pandered". Well, that's my summary of their statement but i think it captures the essence.

By the way, Countess Dracula Pelosi has a picture at Drudge of herself washing some teenagers feet (the girl is being called an illegal) . If I were that kid I'd be worried about Pelosi biting her if given half a chance.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (F58x4)

124 Could on of you morons give the Commodore 64 a kick. That usually does it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (/KiIU)

125 Less than 2% of illegals are picking fruit but over 40% are on welfare

Posted by: MAx at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (b7yum)

126 Semi OT: via Drudge, Pelosi at church washing the feet of "immigrants." Source is the SF Gate which is a division of the SF Chronicle--comments are hilarious---and not in Nancy's favor.

Posted by: small town girl at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (dKrTw)

127 Oh no! ORCA has gone wild. Shtay calm, my friendsh! Shtay calm!!!

Posted by: j. mcain at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (hn5v5)

128 I do not know who mentioned The Moody Blues and Nights in White Satin last night on the ONT, but I'm going to find out..., and when I do I do I am going to hunt you down and burn your house.

That tune has become a nasty ear worm....
gaaaaah!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (aDwsi)

129 What I've ALSO never understood is why DrewM. can't write a simple blogpost without corrupting the color and formatting.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (YYJjz)

130
depend on obama doing what??

inviting Boner to dinner?

Posted by: Soothie § at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (Dv34P)

131 Turn a whiter, shade of pale....

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (/KiIU)

132 Magnitude-7.5 earthquake shakes Mexican capital




Perhaps no longer an issue.


Huge issue. Where do they run to?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:29 AM (d0Dmj)

133 One more reason, Vic: the idiots think that bringing in millions of low wage earners will somehow keep social security solvent.

The fact that these immigrants will be a net cost to the system of taxes vs spending never seems to enter the equation.

Oh, and EITC. That alone ensures that if they pass amnesty, the US will have to default. So, essentially Boehner is desperately wanting to collapse our economy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:29 AM (/i3Yt)

134 Is it too much to hope for that "or bust" means the limp boner hands over the speaker's gavel?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 11:29 AM (L02KD)

135 That tune has become a nasty ear worm....

gaaaaah!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:28 AM (aDwsi)


Never reaching the end, eh?
Letters I've written, never meaning to send...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (4df7R)

136
"But Mr. Boehner said at a Las Vegas fundraiser last month he was "hellbent...this year,"

Quite possibly. But he's not all bad.

Posted by: That Guy at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (NqPnn)

137 Yes, I'm certain John Boehner is a liberal plant, trained since birth by the democrat party to betray us at this critical moment.

Or...

He might recognize that the argument isn't whether the U.S. is going to deport 12 million illegals. That simply isn't going to happen no matter how much screaming and yelling goes on. Then the conversation shifts to what to do with all these people. The democrats want to make them citizens as quickly as possible. Republicans are willing to grant legal status, but absolutely not citizenship.

There is also the possibility that Boehner sees that, done correctly, immigration reform can end up better than the status quo.

Grab your torches, I'll be in the tower if your looking for me.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (u2a4R)

138 How can this abortion supporter walk into a church without bursting into flames?


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM
=======
The 2014 Margaret Sanger Prize winner did the feet washing at an Episcopalian church.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (JBggj)

139 Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.


Is Minx ever going to make it to beta?

Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (OZmbA)

140 If you don't think Boner has the votes after the election you better think again. Recall the link I posted yesterday with Pelousy looking for "30 good Republicans". Between the RINOs and the leadership she will get 30.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (T2V/1)

141 Pelosi washing feet... for the cameras... to make a political point... about illegal immigration... on Good Friday. Wow. As a Christian, all I can say is wow. I now know why she is such an avid cheerleader for abortion, she obviously doesn't believe in a Holy God who won't be mocked.

Posted by: rightwingva at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (kCnae)

142 When the safety net becomes a safety knot, or safety not, the time for moderation in thought and deed will have passed.

Posted by: Streets Paved with Cold at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (wu/TK)

143 *ignores jwest*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (4df7R)

144 133 One more reason, Vic: the idiots think that bringing in millions of low wage earners will somehow keep social security solvent.

How can anybody be stupid enough to think you can collect taxes from these people?

If you can't 'round 'em all up,' how the hell are you going to get them to pay you a chunk of their slave wages? You already said you won't deport them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (uhAkr)

145
Earfquake?

the Left is praying for lots of death and destruction, Im sure.

This is a good day for anti-fracking.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (Dv34P)

146 I was Speaker

For awhile

I could smile

For awhile

But then I saw Amnesty

Was all that I need

To destroy middle class dreams

With oomph-loompa skin

And a trembling grin,

I started-

CRY-Y-Y-YING for amnesty

CRY-Y-Y-YING for amnesty

Till the middle's gone

And from this moment on

I'll be crying

Crying

CRYING

CRY-Y-Y-YING

CRY-Y-Y-YING

CRY-Y-Y-YING

Ameri-i-i-ica fuck you!

Posted by: John Boehner, Artificial Man-Like, Glandless Clone Mach 2.3 at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (0cMkb)

147 Breathe deep, the gathering gloom, watch lights fade from every room.....

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (/KiIU)

148 Is Minx ever going to make it to beta?


Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (OZmbA)


#twoweeks

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)

149 @ 118---Damn. My 25 YO hipster son is down there right now.

Posted by: small town girl at April 18, 2014 11:32 AM (7Dbui)

150 jwest, amnesty without citizenship is never, ever going to be done. Cannot be done. Even if they managed to pass some bastardized bill that purports to do it, the courts won't allow it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:32 AM (/i3Yt)

151 Hey you, Boehner.... asshole!

Yeh, I'm talking to you shithead! Your job is to HELP us, not FUCK US UP!

Who ever told you that you could work with men! You fucking fairy, you company man!

Posted by: Ricky Roma at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (aTXUx)

152 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (4df7R)

Now that's just mean.

*tee hee, I was gonna do that too*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (JS0vr)

153 133
One more reason, Vic: the idiots think that bringing in millions of low
wage earners will somehow keep social security solvent.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:29 AM (/i3Yt)



I don't think anyone that has even a small idea of how the SS system works believes that. Besides that, the SS system is not the one in real trouble right now. It's medicare/medicaid which this group would instantly flood and collapse.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (T2V/1)

154 Grab your torches, I'll be in the tower if your looking for me.

'You're,' not 'your.'

If you're going to style yourself a martyr, at least use correct grammar and words.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (uhAkr)

155 Bedsitter people look back and lament: another day's useless energy spent...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (4df7R)

156 Thought experiment: is there any country on earth that would elect someone like Nancy Pelosi to national office? Venezuela maybe?

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:35 AM (F58x4)

157 O.K. ladies and gents. We have a serious shot at getting the Senate back this year! Thanks to the bad economy and Obamacare I think we can do it. Now, what we really need is a bold idea that is sure to piss off our base.....Yes, you, orange guy in the back. "Amnesty!!!"........All in favor say aye!

Posted by: GOP Strategy Session at April 18, 2014 11:36 AM (/KiIU)

158 137WHOLE bunch of unemployed and marginally-employed Americans very interested in that answer

Posted by: MAx at April 18, 2014 11:36 AM (b7yum)

159 renoB isn't going to pass shit on immigration. He is an empty shell with no influence and no respect by either side. He is done as speaker. A total fucking flop.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 11:36 AM (xWW96)

160 156
Thought experiment: is there any country on earth that would elect
someone like Nancy Pelosi to national office? Venezuela maybe?

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 11:35 AM (F58x4)

Only a SF, which is why she maintains and empty house there.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:37 AM (T2V/1)

161
Thought experiment: is there any country on earth that would elect
someone like Nancy Pelosi to national office? Venezuela maybe?


NORKs

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:37 AM (d0Dmj)

162 Even if they managed to pass some bastardized bill that purports to do it, the courts won't allow it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:32 AM (/i3Yt)


There will necessarily be a long path to citizenship that places current illegals far behind the ones doing things legally now.

The polling is already done and the fairness of this plays well.

Most current illegals won't bother with citizenship route because of time, complexity and cost.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:37 AM (u2a4R)

163 Thought experiment: is there any country on earth that would elect
someone like Nancy Pelosi to national office? Venezuela maybe?


NORKs
Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:37 AM (d0Dmj)

The Mickey Mouse Club?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (t3UFN)

164 Republicans.... snatching defeat from the jaws of victory....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (84gbM)

165 "24 Can any of them explain why this would be a good idea beyond #ActsOfLove?


I'm sure Boehner's amnesty agenda is being pushed by some corporate interest with a major lobbying presence on K Street.

My guess is Agri-biz. Cheap farm labor.
Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 11:05 AM (i5GO4)"


If it were Agri-biz, you would think that makers of farm machinery would be bankrolling a push to tighten the border and make farm labor more expensive, creating an economic incentive to substitute capital equipment for labor. The University of California at Davis Agricultural Engineering program is famous for creating these sort of machines. If the border with Mexico was closed with something like the Berlin Wall, John Deer, International and Massey Ferguson would be putting on third shifts to manufacture enough of them.

Interesting thought - are the plants that make farm equipment unionized? If so, why are the unions not looking out for the interests of their members by improving demand for their products?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (PD6iL)

166 Impassioned lovers Wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love And has none
New mother picks up And suckles her son
Senior citizens Wish they were young

Cold hearted orb That rules the night
Removes the colours From our sight
Red is gray and Yellow white
But we decide Which is right
And Which is an Illusion


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (JS0vr)

167 We need a Spanish speaking Rush Limbaugh to convert them.

Posted by: Sphynx at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (OZmbA)

168 Most current illegals won't bother with citizenship route because of time, complexity and cost.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:37 AM (u2a4R)


then why do it?

If they are still going to be resident aliens?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:39 AM (84gbM)

169
I don't get it. Is Boehner sick of paying legal immigrants or citizens to clean his house and apply his self-tanner?

Man, it must suck to be in the top 1%, having to pay exorbitant amounts to legal immigrants and/or citizens to do your bidding. No wonder they want illegal immigrants and their heady desire to work under the table for a pittance.

Posted by: MacGruber at April 18, 2014 11:39 AM (xvtYZ)

170 Bedsitter people look back and lament: another day's useless energy spent...


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM

O.K. One small edit.

Cold hearted SMOD
That rules the night
Removes the colours
From our sight
Red is gray and
Yellow white
But we decide
Which is right
And
Which is an Illusion...


Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:40 AM (/KiIU)

171
medicare/medicaid which this group would instantly flood and collapse.

Maybe you stumbled on something. If medicare/Medicaid collapses we go to single payer.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 11:40 AM (Z1SI2)

172 *points at jwest and laughs*

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 18, 2014 11:41 AM (rXcBX)

173 >>jwest

I seem to remember you from another blog I use to frequent. I recall you being a tool there too. Which blog was that?

Posted by: Aviator at April 18, 2014 11:41 AM (ZIvi3)

174 The polling is already done and the fairness of this plays well.

--

jwest, you keep talking like this is a game. I am not on the sidelines rooting for the GOP. It isn't about winning seats for republicans, it is about finding and supporting people who will agree to dismantle large segments of the federal government.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 18, 2014 11:41 AM (/i3Yt)

175 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 11:38 AM (PD6iL)

You have to understand Unionism

Members of a union fare better when the majority of their neighbors are NOT in a union.

Because THEN they have the money advantage. They make more money than the norm for the area.

Unions LOVE illegal workers (except in union jobs) as that lowers the wages and prices for goods and services which raises the standard of living for Union workers.

Unions are ONLY good for the Union members. It's a lie that they make the country/community better.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (JS0vr)

176 "Lonely man cries for love And has none"

This really is the story of Boehner.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (/KiIU)

177 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (uhAkr)

Uh, you may want to recheck your Engrish grammar rules before giving lessons.

You're= You are

Your= possessive

Posted by: Damiano at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (j0wOO)

178 Letters I've written, never meaning to send...

Posted by: MWR
---------------------

Yeah. I offered a version for Millennials:

"Emails I've keyed in, never meaning to hit Send.."

But, let's not get started again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (aDwsi)

179 "Senior citizens
Wish they were young"

This really is the story of McCain.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (/KiIU)

180 Grammar police out today?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:43 AM (aDwsi)

181 So...like I said in the last thread, if you presume that Boehner, Romney, McConnell, etc all want to move American politics in the same direction we do this is pretty hard to explain, isn't it?

If you presume that are happy with the current state of Leviathan wand while they would like to get to control it they are happy just getting the perks of office if necessary...then their actions suddenly make a hell of a lot of sense.


Posted by: 18-1 at April 18, 2014 11:43 AM (78TbK)

182 There is also the possibility that Boehner sees that, done correctly, immigration reform can end up better than the status quo.


Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (u2a4R)


So we legalize this group... here now... and we end up with a Ron R. Amnesty... where in 10 years we have to do another one...

History shows us this...


And yes... there is a solution.... its to enforce the Identity theft laws already on the books.... catch them telling lies on Official documents... tell them they have a court date but that we will not pursue them over international lines... they WILL self deport.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:44 AM (84gbM)

183 I get the impression that Boehner is trying to play both sides here.

To the pro-amnesty big business donors: Keep the money coming, we're totally going to do something.

To the voters: Well, we would do something, but we can't because Obama can't be trusted to enforce the law. Blame him.

The problem with the GOP being a pro-business party is that they sometimes act like a pro-business party. Even when they shouldn't.

What will probably happen is what has happened already- the House passes something less than "comprehensive immigration reform", the Senate tacks on amnesty, it goes nowhere in the House.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 11:44 AM (SY2Kh)

184 Unions LOVE illegal workers (except in union jobs) as that lowers the wages and prices for goods and services which raises the standard of living for Union workers.
SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (JS0vr)

______

Unions love illegals because illegals vote 99% Democrat. That's **THE** and the only reason Democrats love illegals. If they voted Republican, Obama would be on the border himself helping to build the wall.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 11:45 AM (0LHZx)

185 Vote me out? No, I'm Moe Boehner, I buy YOU out!

You conservatives make me laugh! First I take in Cantor when you guys are having problems, and now you want to force me out!

First of all, the Cons don't have that kind of muscle anymore! The Cons got pushed out of Washington!

I talked to Pelosi, I can get amnesty AND keep my Speakership!

Do you know who I am, I'm Moe Boehner! I was making my bones when you were still banging campaign volunteers!!

Posted by: Moe Boehner at April 18, 2014 11:45 AM (aTXUx)

186 Here's a bowl and a pitcher John. Let's get busy honoring their labor.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 18, 2014 11:45 AM (pgQxn)

187
Hur dur. Let's all start a club about ignoring someone, and then brag about it on the internet. We'll call it "The Cool People's Club" because that's so COOL. Hur dur!
No, that's not the kind of bullshit that a middle school girl with serious mental and emotional issues does AT ALL.
AT.ALL.

Posted by: MAx at April 18, 2014 11:45 AM (b7yum)

188 "then why do it?

If they are still going to be resident aliens? "
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:39 AM (84gbM)

Because if it's done right, current illegals could be deported immediately if they don't register and get permanent legal status.

Once it's established that any current illegal can get permanent residency just by applying and passing the background check, only those with criminal backgrounds will opt out. During the writing of the legislation, a quick path to deportation can be established for foriegn criminals.

There are other reasons it's better to get these people out in the open and it can all be accomplished in immigration reform.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R)

189 #177 Damiano at April 18, 2014 11:42 AM (j0wOO)


petard, hoist, some assembly required.

you're a Common Core grad, aren't you?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (q+fqH)

190 Reason: David Axelrod Hired to Make a Socialist the U.K.'s Next Prime Minister [rdbrewer]

Good luck with that. They are moving right in the UK. And the left are increasingly seen as buffoons.

Posted by: Pug Form 4868 at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (8c12T)

191 Christ, jwest is a damn fool.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 11:47 AM (xWW96)

192 It's medicare/medicaid which this group would instantly flood and collapse.

OK now I'm starting to warm up to this amnesty thing.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 11:47 AM (L02KD)

193 When I think of "hellbent," I think of Nancy Pelosi washing the feet of immigrants. Boehner being "hellbent" on anything is laughable.

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (UzPAd)

194 Rand Paul has tried to talk to blacks and that's very commendable. I think this is the issue where he (or anyone else really) could really make a breakthrough. Talk to blacks about how 20 million newly legalized illegals will be taking the low to mid skill jobs that blacks currently have.

Right now illegals do in fact do a lot of jobs "Americans won't do". But when they are legal, you think they'll keep on cutting lawns for $8/hr? Fuck no. They'll move up to the $12/hr factory work and take the job once done by a black dude.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (0LHZx)

195 Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R)

Except they won't deport those other aliens... for the very same reason they don't deport them now...

There would be too many... and it would be 'Mean' (said with a little girl whine)...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (84gbM)

196 Told ya! Speaker Boner and the House GOP bleedership will wait until their conservativewhacko-birds have left the chamber, then pass Shamnesty with a voice vote like they did with the so-called "Doc Fix". No roll-call vote, so problem solved!

Posted by: Born Free at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (xL8Hf)

197 All those jobs we need Mexican illegals to do?

Have the able-bodied welfare cases do them.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (MMC8r)

198 177 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:33 AM (uhAkr)

Uh, you may want to recheck your Engrish grammar rules before giving lessons.

You're= You are

Your= possessive


Go back and re-read his sentence:

'If your looking for me'

My looking? Nope. He means:

If you are looking for me.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (uhAkr)

199 The polling is already done and the fairness of this plays well.
--------------------

"The polling.."?

The country is being run in the same fashion that American Idol is run.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)

200 I vaguely remember reading about the 1985 Mexico City earthquake. Terribly devastating, IIRC. City built in bad place.

Posted by: Baldy at April 18, 2014 11:49 AM (2bql3)

201 Once it's established that any current illegal can get permanent residency just by applying and passing the background check, only those with criminal backgrounds will opt out. During the writing of the legislation, a quick path to deportation can be established for foriegn criminals.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R)

Then we all get unicorns and live happily ever after

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (aTXUx)

202 Posted by: Moe Boehner

Nice. The Godfather never gets old.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (QupBk)

203 "I'm "hellbent on getting this done this year."

Soon.

Posted by: Satan at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (pgQxn)

204
Hey gringos, we're about 5M more awaiting to jump across the border and become part of the hated FSA. Congress should pass the amnesty bill so we can become the next wave of freeloaders, criminals, and democrat voters. The democrats are assholes, but they're out assholes and we love 'um!

Posted by: Border Jumpin' Local #478 at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (nQjHM)

205 There is also the possibility that Boehner sees that, done correctly, immigration reform can end up better than the status quo.


Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:30 AM (u2a4R)


So we legalize this group... here now... and we end up with a Ron R. Amnesty... where in 10 years we have to do another one...

History shows us this...


And yes... there is a solution.... its to enforce the Identity theft laws already on the books.... catch them telling lies on Official documents... tell them they have a court date but that we will not pursue them over international lines... they WILL self deport.


Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:44 AM
.........Way more simple solution. Punish a business that hires illegals 5,000 for each worker for the first offense. 25,000 thereafter. The only reason they are here is for jobs. No workie, no comey. There actually was some self deportation when the economy hit the shitter a few years back. Now its not working because these assholes keep talking about Amnesty.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (/KiIU)

206 The country is being run in the same fashion that American Idol is run.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)


/pushes the button...

Posted by: Simon Cowell at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (84gbM)

207 So we have Cantor telling obum no way then this....they're def up to something....most likely selling out there supposed values. Just cannot for the life of me figure out why do this when we have such a good chance at getting the senate

Posted by: jonmcboner at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (YUrBn)

208 You Republicans better pass Amnesty or you're doomed, Doooooomed!

I really am only trying to help you, swearsies.

It's really out of concern for the health of the Republican party and conservative coalition that I say you have to, have to, have to pass Amnesty.

It's really for your own good.

If you don't add tens of millions of reliable Democrat voters to America then you'll never win an election again.

I am filled with concern about your party and your movement. Super swearsies.

We don't really even want Amnesty, us Democrats are really only doing this to help you guys. Cause we care. We want balance. Honest.

Posted by: Democrats at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (ZPrif)

209 201 Once it's established that any current illegal can get permanent residency just by applying and passing the background check, only those with criminal backgrounds will opt out. During the writing of the legislation, a quick path to deportation can be established for foriegn criminals. Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:46 AM (u2a4R) Then we all get unicorns and live happily ever after
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (aTXUx)

Skittles and Priuses (Priusi?) for everyone!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (DrWcr)

210 194
Rand Paul has tried to talk to blacks and that's very commendable. I
think this is the issue where he (or anyone else really) could really
make a breakthrough. Talk to blacks about how 20 million newly legalized
illegals will be taking the low to mid skill jobs that blacks currently
have.



Right now illegals do in fact do a lot of jobs "Americans won't do".
But when they are legal, you think they'll keep on cutting lawns for
$8/hr? Fuck no. They'll move up to the $12/hr factory work and take the
job once done by a black dude.





Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 11:48 AM (0LHZx)

Ann Coulter has a good meme , calling amnesty supporters racist for what it does to blacks.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (AWmfW)

211 There would be too many... and it would be 'Mean' (said with a little girl whine)...

Posted by: Romeo
---------------

I'm reminded of the girl on Walking Dead, who insists on feeding the zombies "Because they are people." Of course, it is her little friend who gets killed and eaten by them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (aDwsi)

212 Then we all get unicorns and live happily ever after

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (aTXUx)



Skittles and Priuses (Priusi?) for everyone!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (DrWcr)


Better yet, the unicorns SHIT THE SKITTLES. So we get unicorns, skittles, and plug-in hybrids!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 11:52 AM (4df7R)

213 I'm reminded of the girl on Walking Dead, who insists on feeding the zombies "Because they are people." Of course, it is her little friend who gets killed and eaten by them.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:51 AM (aDwsi)

She was also a psychopath.

"Just look at the flowers, Lizzie."

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 11:52 AM (DrWcr)

214
Of course, the only proper response to the troll, jwest, on these sorts of topics is to immediately call for $25,000 vouchers to send the illegals to Detroit.

It's the only way to defeat his brilliant argument.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 11:52 AM (TOk1P)

215 You're= You are

Yore.

Posted by: Hillbilly Bob at April 18, 2014 11:53 AM (Fp7JI)

216 I much rather the country fall to its ruin with the Democrats in charge than the Republicans. Hence my vote stays in my pocket.

Those that vote for the Republican apparatus thinking they are different than the Democrats deserve the results of their choice.

Posted by: Mekan at April 18, 2014 11:53 AM (zG16+)

217 ".........Way more simple solution. Punish a business that hires illegals 5,000 for each worker for the first offense. 25,000 thereafter."

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (/KiIU)

And just how does the business determine if someone is an illegal?

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:53 AM (u2a4R)

218 Once it's established that any current illegal can get permanent residency just by applying and passing the background check, only those with criminal backgrounds will opt out. During the writing of the legislation, a quick path to deportation can be established for foriegn criminals.

We already have "a path to deportation" for foreign criminals, who would simply remain "in the shadows" as they do now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 11:53 AM (SY2Kh)

219 I don't believe the polling on American Idol.

Posted by: burt at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (1+kJ5)

220 Currently we have have a LOT of unemployed high tech
workers. There is no reason what-so-ever to import another batch except
for cheap labor.


Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:25 AM (T2V/1)

I worked for an IT company in Ohio for 7 years which had a large number of Indians on Visas.
For some reason, I was always under the impression that they actually had to be paid more than the average American IT worker to demonstrate that they were actually needed and not just cheap labor. That must be incorrect though. Does anyone know?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (AC0lD)

221 I much rather the country fall to its ruin with the Democrats in charge than the Republicans. Hence my vote stays in my pocket.

Those that vote for the Republican apparatus thinking they are different than the Democrats deserve the results of their choice.

---

Well said, brother.

Posted by: Democrats at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

222 Whatever happened to repealing Obamacare?

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (Fd8YL)

223 Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (/KiIU)

I'm actually for a National ID card... with Picture.

Tie it to your passport (citizenship), drivers license, VOTER ID (it looks like there may have been 1 MILLION in the last election who voted in more than 1 State)....

Make it online verifiable... for jobs and any Gov Benefit....

And make it free....


Even as a Libertarian IMO the problems it would solve (immigration, voter fraud) are worth the personal liberty and financial cost.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (84gbM)

224 Just cannot for the life of me figure out why do this when we have such a good chance at getting the senate

Posted by: jonmcboner at April 18, 2014 11:50 AM (YUrBn)
They don't give a shit about the Senate.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (R8hU8)

225 Punish a business that hires illegals 5,000 for each worker for the first offense. 25,000 thereafter.

Exile the owners to the illegals' country of origin.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (DrWcr)

226 Whatever happened to repealing Obamacare?

You're funny.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:55 AM (thLL8)

227 y'all = you are
yall's = possesive

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 11:55 AM (L02KD)

228 She was also a psychopath.

"Just look at the flowers, Lizzie."

Posted by: Insomniac
---------------------------

Hmm. May I assume that the emphasis is on 'also', as in:
"She was a psychopath also"?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:55 AM (aDwsi)

229 Congressfolk like Amash and Huelskamp must be doing something right if they're on Weepy's enemies list.

Posted by: Furious George at April 18, 2014 11:56 AM (yFb77)

230 >>Right now illegals do in fact do a lot of jobs "Americans won't do". But when they are legal, you think they'll keep on cutting lawns for $8/hr? Fuck no. They'll move up to the $12/hr factory work and take the job once done by a black dude.

It is, of course, racist to mention this.

Posted by: Aviator at April 18, 2014 11:56 AM (ZIvi3)

231 We also agree that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. Let's teach the Republicans a lesson and not vote!! Who's with me?

Posted by: Bloomberg's Anti-gun Coalition at April 18, 2014 11:56 AM (ZPrif)

232 The polling is already done and the fairness of this plays well.

--------------------



"The polling.."?



The country is being run in the same fashion that American Idol is run.



#2886 For
#2887 Against

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (d0Dmj)

233 This place they call Canada, it looks very appealing.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (thLL8)

234 I give up

Posted by: dan in michigan at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (ms5Fa)

235 Even as a Libertarian IMO the problems it would solve (immigration, voter fraud) are worth the personal liberty and financial cost.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (84gbM)

Yes, it's not like they don't already have all your personal info anyway.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (R8hU8)

236 We also agree that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. Let's teach the Republicans a lesson and not vote!! Who's with me?

Posted by: Bloomberg's Anti-gun Coalition at April 18, 2014 11:56 AM (ZPrif)

Said on an issue we are winning because the NRA is willing to withhold votes from the Republicans...

Posted by: KG at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (p7BzH)

237 200 I vaguely remember reading about the 1985 Mexico City earthquake. Terribly devastating, IIRC. City built in bad place.

Posted by: Baldy at April 18, 2014 11:49 AM (2bql3)

Built on an ancient lake bed I believe, so the ground would be mostly sedimentary rock which turns to jello when the shakes come.

Throw in lots of adobe hovels and business buildings not constructed to Californian or Japanese stress designs, and corrupt deals making any building codes worthless.




Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 11:58 AM (aTXUx)

238 220 I was always under the impression that they
actually had to be paid more than the average American IT worker to
demonstrate that they were actually needed and not just cheap labor.
That must be incorrect though. Does anyone know?


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (AC0lD)

We had a few Indian engineers working in the company I was in. The hired on at a lower salary than the average American engineer. I don't now if they eventually caught up or not because I left about a year after they brought them in. I will admit that we had a damn hard time finding engineers.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:58 AM (T2V/1)

239 Hmm. May I assume that the emphasis is on 'also', as in: "She was a psychopath also"?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 11:55 AM (aDwsi)

Feel free to assume any emphasis you like. The point is Lizzie was a psychopath.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (DrWcr)

240 ".........Way more simple solution. Punish a business that hires illegals 5,000 for each worker for the first offense."


Good luck finding Americans willing to do manual labor who aren't meth heads.

In the oil business you have two kinds of roughnecks:

i. Mexican workers who are fantastic laborers
ii. white trash meth heads


Immigrants aren't "taking your job". Name how many white people want to go break out pipe in Texas in the summer? It's about zero. The uneasy fact is our economy can't be sustained without hispanic labor, but Leftists want to capitalize on hispanics for votes.

Keep them illegal; they won't vote, but they'll still contribute to the economy by providing cheap labor (that you wouldn't do anyways likely).

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (Fd8YL)

241 AP April 18 2014. During a speech on the house floor today. Speaker Boehner wept as he washed the feet of former prostitute Rosa Martinez... Through tears, Mr. Boehner was quoted as saying. "While we are different in some ways, We are alike in so many ways, while she is brown, I am orange. And under our skin we are the same. Complete and utter whores."

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (/KiIU)

242 Said on an issue we are winning because the NRA is willing to withhold votes from the Republicans...

--

Said on an issue you are winning because you won Heller 5-4. Give us 4 more years of Supreme Court picks -- you won't be winning that issue much longer.

Posted by: Bloomberg's Anti-gun Coalition at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (ZPrif)

243 Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:58 AM (T2V/1)

Thanks Vic. I was incorrect then. Good to know.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (AC0lD)

244 Wait, I need a ruling from President Douchebag on this one: is the science/debate settled here, or can America keep arguing?

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (F58x4)

245 Feel free to assume any emphasis you like. The point is Lizzie was a psychopath.

Posted by: Insomniac
------------------

I got that..., I thought perhaps you were drawing a parallel with the GOPe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (aDwsi)

246 Keep them illegal; they won't vote, but they'll still contribute to the economy by providing cheap labor (that you wouldn't do anyways likely).
Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (Fd8YL)

John? John McCain, is that you?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (DrWcr)

247 And just how does the business determine if someone is an illegal?
Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 11:53 AM (u2a4R)

Validare a Social Security card Number and/or green card

Hold them responsible when they do not validate

See if the speak any fuckin English

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:01 PM (t3UFN)

248 Keep them illegal; they won't vote, but they'll still contribute to the economy by providing cheap labor (that you wouldn't do anyways likely).

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM
......Bullshit. We already have guest worker programs. Nobody is talking about ending that.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 12:01 PM (/KiIU)

249 "I'm actually for a National ID card... with Picture. "


So am I.

As an advocate of the Fair Tax Plan, knowing who is a citizen and who isn't is critical.

Of course, if the Fair Tax Plan was enacted, I would advocate for free transportation for Mexicans to come and be permanent residents, along with immigrants from all over the world.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 12:01 PM (u2a4R)

250 Wait, I need a ruling from President Douchebag on this one: is the science/debate settled here, or can America keep arguing?

Posted by: MTF
-----------------------

I'll have check with Bill Nye. Get back to you later.

Posted by: Barky at April 18, 2014 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

251 245 Feel free to assume any emphasis you like. The point is Lizzie was a psychopath. Posted by: Insomniac ------------------ I got that..., I thought perhaps you were drawing a parallel with the GOPe.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (aDwsi)

Ah. I completely missed your subtext there. I'd liken them to someone feeding the zombie hoping it eats them last.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:02 PM (DrWcr)

252 Yes, it's not like they don't already have all your personal info anyway.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 18, 2014 11:57 AM (R8hU


Hmmm.... as President I hereby declare the Invasion of the United States by Millions of Foreign Nationals a threat to the security of the United States... and hereby order the National Security Agency, IRS, FBI, and Border Patrol, and Social Security Administration, to cooperate and find those who should not legally be here.

They will be identified, and sent a letter saying that we found them.... which they may dispute... but if not disputed, a Letter informing their Employer of their illegal status will be sent.

This letter allows existing law to come into play, as it IS still illegal to knowingly hire an illegal Alien, and fines will be forthcoming...

thank you... and God Bless...

Posted by: President Romeo13... asshole at April 18, 2014 12:02 PM (84gbM)

253 Complete and utter whores.

Newsletter, must have.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 12:02 PM (L02KD)

254 Said on an issue you are winning because you won
Heller 5-4. Give us 4 more years of Supreme Court picks -- you won't be
winning that issue much longer.

Posted by: Bloomberg's Anti-gun Coalition at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (ZPrif)

As if the Republicans would actually hold up any such nominations... they haven't up to now, and there is no reason to think they will in the future.

Posted by: KG at April 18, 2014 12:02 PM (p7BzH)

255 See if the speak any fuckin English
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:01 PM (t3UFN)

Son of beech! Sheet!

Posted by: Guy in Harold Ramis' English class at April 18, 2014 12:02 PM (DrWcr)

256
242 -

Oh goodie, we got a live one.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (TOk1P)

257 The GOPe seems to want to do this because it will make people like them more, and that maybe those people who are "granted legal status" will vote for the GOPe instead of the Demos. This is the stupidest reasoning ever.


1) The illegals will vote for Demonrats. They just will. Not all of them, but enough of them that the remainder will be insignificant.

AND

2) The GOPe does this in direct opposition to their alleged "base." So whatever votes they DO gain are more than negated by the number of votes they're going to fucking lose from disgusted former supporters who are sick of being the beaten housewife in this relationship.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (4df7R)

258 220 - I can confirm this - CSC, a biggie in finance\insurance does the same thing - claims there is a shortage of talent, then hires Packi\Indians like there is no tomorrow, and pays them far less than Yanks.

I once cornered our CSC guy, asked him what he makes, and it was amazing - probably 25-40% less than we made, and he was happy - his family lived like kings in India on that income, and he was non stop.

I also hear that VIPRO and others do the same thing, since, American labour has surpassed what the market 'wants' to pay.

Shortage of Tech Pros my eye.....

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (zL/eJ)

259 @233 This place they call Canada, it looks very appealing.
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines
___________________________

A happy story for you: I had listened to years and years of endless babble from my brother in law about how great Canada was because of their free healthcare and no gun violence and how tolerant they are to people who just don't feel like working. In 2004, he vowed to move to Canada if Bush won re-election. Brother in law then looks into becoming a Canadian citizen and is disappointed to find out that the Canadian government was not as excited to have him as he had hoped. The Canucks were concerned about this not-liking-to-work habit he had.

I giggled.

Posted by: Furious George at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (yFb77)

260 So we have Cantor telling obum no way then this....they're def up to something....most likely selling out there supposed values. Just cannot for the life of me figure out why do this when we have such a good chance at getting the senate.

They're getting pressure from business donors and are afraid that the issue remaining unresolved will continue to hurt them with the growing Latino demographic.

Passing amnesty would be a mistake, but the way they're looking at it doing so would placate the Chamber of Commerce types while denying the Dems the chance to wield it against them.

The GOP needs to frame this less as anti-illegal and more pro-American worker. That won't sit well with business donors though.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (SY2Kh)

261 There are 233 Republicans in the House now.

Any amnesty talk--which, if it is to happen--will come later in the year, closer to election time.
Meaning such will favor the more conservative Republicans who'll promise to oppose amnesty.

There are already reports of some 50 Republicans on-board with kicking Boehner out.

67 more and he is gone.

Math so easy, I'm sure even a dumb ass like him can figure it out.

The one and only constructive thing you can do to stop amnesty is to get your Congressman on record as promising to vote against Boehner if he brings an amnesty bill to the floor.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (VjL9S)

262 243 Thanks Vic. I was incorrect then. Good to know.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 12:00 PM (AC0lD)

There is one other issue to keep in mind. That was a few years before the great collapse and unemployment was between 4 and 5 percent, not the 20+% we have now.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 12:04 PM (T2V/1)

263 FWIW I've been on both sides of the immigration issue.

My wife and I are going through getting her green card, and it's overly complicated and expensive. The government presumes you guilty until proven innocent, and you basically have to shell out thousands of dollars on immigration lawyers and do pages of paperwork. Hell, the leviathan bureaucracy of government makes legal immigration so miserable it doesn't take a genius to see why so many people do it illegally.

On the other side of the coin a drunk illegal mexican crashed his truck into my mom's house and narrowly avoided killing her while she slept. He fled the scene without checking if he'd hurt anyone, passed out, was taken to the hospital by police, got free treatment, then was promptly released and slipped under the radar. He only got caught again like 4 years later to finally stand trial, and he apparently had a string of similar offenses. The government basically plays catch and release with illegals who commit dangerous crimes, and it's fucking unfair to Americans.

Keep them illegal, deport the criminals, and make legal immigration simpler please.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 12:04 PM (Fd8YL)

264 Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 11:59 AM (Fd8YL)

Come to central California... I'll show you many.

Posted by: President Romeo13... asshole at April 18, 2014 12:04 PM (84gbM)

265 John? John McCain, is that you?
=======
Si.

Posted by: John McCain (D-Juarez) at April 18, 2014 12:05 PM (MMC8r)

266 Let it burn.

Posted by: Buddha at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (s/sIv)

267 disgusted former supporters who are sick of being the beaten housewife in this relationship.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (4df7R)

They don't really mean it when they get like this. If I didn't provoke them, they wouldn't have to hit me. They love me, they really do.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (DrWcr)

268 I certainly don't dismiss that Boehner and company wish to pass this. Why I don't know. Donors I guess. I think Bush honestly felt it was the right thing to do. Boehner may feel the same, but I have more cynicism with them. I have this feeling that they want to do it more to simply spite the conservative base - to show who's boss so to speak. Regardless, I'll be surprised if this actually happens. The base gets very vocal about this issue.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (6PnZM)

269 I would just like to jump in here and say that Boehner is our enemy. He is actually working against us. Speaking of idiots, anyone who continues to be unsure of this is one.

Posted by: Sambo - Posts from whom are a sure sign that a thread is about to die at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (9UV3C)

270 If he lies to us, he will also lie to big business. The question here who is he lying to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 11:03 AM (t3UFN)


I'm hoping like hell that he's trying to keep the money spigots turned on while knowing fucking a well he'll never get it passed. Yes, I'm probably a major dumbfuck for even considering that type of strategery for the party of stoopid and Top Men.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (1Gj0g)

271 Becktard filling in for Rush today.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:07 PM (thLL8)

272 This subject is too depressing.


Let's talk about the crucifixions they do every year on Good Friday in the Philippines. These crucifixions bring in enormous numbers of tourists and are great for local businesses like hotels, restaurants and food vendors.


I am thinking that something like that would be a way for Detroit to bring in some revenue.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 12:07 PM (PD6iL)

273 I am thinking that something like that would be a way for Detroit to bring in some revenue.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 12:07 PM (PD6iL)

Even more if they were real.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:08 PM (DrWcr)

274 Shortage of Tech Pros my eye.....

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 18, 2014 12:03 PM (zL/eJ)


I'm a tech pro.... there are a LOT of shops where you cannot get a job, unless you speak the bosses foreign language...

And as a Network Engineer... average salary 17 years ago when I retired from the Navy was 67K a year.... it is now 63K a year for the exact same job.... and that is in real, not constant dollar...

so with inflation, that salary should be in the 95K range....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 12:08 PM (84gbM)

275 A happy story for you: I had listened to years and years of endless
babble from my brother in law about how great Canada was because of
their free healthcare and no gun violence and how tolerant they are to
people who just don't feel like working. In 2004, he vowed to move to
Canada if Bush won re-election. Brother in law then looks into becoming
a Canadian citizen and is disappointed to find out that the Canadian
government was not as excited to have him as he had hoped. The Canucks
were concerned about this not-liking-to-work habit he had.


LOL! What did he say to them that tipped them off?

"Hey, how fast can I get on your welfare program? Can I start at $3000 a month? Great!"



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)

276 They don't really mean it when they get like this.
If I didn't provoke them, they wouldn't have to hit me. They love me,
they really do.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:06 PM (DrWcr)


If I was just more understanding about why they do the things they do they wouldn't hurt me anymore. If I just accepted everything they do, even the bad things that make life harder, they wouldn't beat me. If I let them blame me every time one of their plans went wrong, instead of trying to stick up for myself, they wouldn't keep trying to kill me. I know they wouldn't. They love me. They need me. They don't really want to hurt me. They need me. I can't leave them. They need me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:09 PM (4df7R)

277 FWIW I've been on both sides of the immigration issue.
My wife and I are going through getting her green card, and it's overly complicated and expensive.


I don't see that as being on the other side of the issue.

It's a travesty that we make legitimate, legal immigrants who want to become citizens endure years of expensive bureaucracy while turning a blind eye to those who came here illegally.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (SY2Kh)

278 Not a whole lot makes me angrier than amnesty for criminals. I came here legally. Paid the fees (a LOT of money), filled out all of the forms, complied with every nitpicky bullshit request time and time again.

Coulda just crossed, then said "oops".

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (N/cFh)

279 How do you get off R snail-mailing lists? I'm serious. I can tell them to stop calling me, but they won't stop sending me crap through the mail.

Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (hHFOx)

280 I am thinking that something like that would be a way for Detroit to bring in some revenue.


1. Play with heavy construction equipment: wrecking ball, earth mover, bulldozer.


2. Implode a building of your choice.


3. Hunt the most dangerous game of all: man.



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 12:11 PM (GQ8sn)

281 I worked for an IT company in Ohio for 7 years which had a large number of Indians on Visas.
For some reason, I was always under the impression that they actually had to be paid more than the average American IT worker to demonstrate that they were actually needed and not just cheap labor. That must be incorrect though. Does anyone know?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 11:54 AM (AC0lD)

________

Legally, they have to be paid a "prevailing wage" which can be interpreted very loosely. What companies get from H1B workers isn't so much cheaper bodies, it's almost 100% loyalty. They're stuck with their sponsor for 3 years. Indentured servitude basically. So no matter how shitty you treat them, their only options are take it or go back home. Transferring an H1B between employers is really a pain in the ass and rarely done.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 12:11 PM (0LHZx)

282 @274 Romeo13

I worked for a Germany software company not to long ago. They were flying techs in from Moscow to Frankfurt for interviews.

Yeah, it was hard to fill slots, but they were trying to get them on the cheap.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 18, 2014 12:11 PM (ARcTh)

283 Not a whole lot makes me angrier than amnesty for
criminals. I came here legally. Paid the fees (a LOT of money), filled
out all of the forms, complied with every nitpicky bullshit request time
and time again.



Coulda just crossed, then said "oops".

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (N/cFh)


+1
I should tell my father to skip the paperwork and just come down.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 12:11 PM (GQ8sn)

284 279 How do you get off R snail-mailing lists? I'm serious. I can tell them to stop calling me, but they won't stop sending me crap through the mail.
Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (hHFOx)

I have no idea. The state Demotards keep emailing me shit, despite the fact I've never signed up, and have asked to be taken off their list multiple times.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (DrWcr)

285 >>>The country is being run in the same fashion that American Idol is run.<<<

American Idol is the Gong Show less Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (UzPAd)

286 Right now illegals do in fact do a lot of jobs "Americans won't do".

But when they are legal, you think they'll keep on cutting lawns for

$8/hr? Fuck no. They'll move up to the $12/hr factory work and take the

job once done by a black dude.
=============
Australia is a case study on immigration.

If there is not cheap labor, these lawn jobs will pay $13+ an hour--and the legal citizens will be happy to do them.

Americans won't do these jobs because we CAN'T AFFORD TO!!




Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (VjL9S)

287 Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) denied that a nuclear Iran would pose a national security threat to the United States or Israel in a 2007 radio interview with talk show host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

“Even our own intelligence community consensus opinion now is that they’re not a threat. Like my dad [Rep. Ron Paul] says, [the Iranians] don’t have an Air Force, they don’t have a Navy,” said Paul, according to a recording of the interview. “You know, it’s ridiculous to think they’re a threat to our national security.”

“It’s not even that viable to say they’re a national threat to Israel,” Paul added. “Most people say Israel has 100 nuclear weapons, you know.”

Just FYI and for what it is worth. That nut and tree thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (t3UFN)

288 How do you get off R snail-mailing lists?

Move.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (thLL8)

289 Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (DrWcr)

I made a big mistake in supporting them. Now they rent my info out to whoever wants it. I'm sure it's because they think I'm a sucker. I am done.

Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:13 PM (hHFOx)

290 1. Play with heavy construction equipment: wrecking ball, earth mover, bulldozer.
-----------------

One of my more interesting days was a playdate with a bulldozer, a case of beer, and an AR-15.

Posted by: Barky at April 18, 2014 12:13 PM (aDwsi)

291 Move.



Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (thLL


I figured as much.

Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (hHFOx)

292 Ugh. Off Barky sock...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (aDwsi)

293 I once cornered our CSC guy, asked him what he makes, and it was amazing - probably 25-40% less than we made, and he was happy - his family lived like kings in India on that income, and he was non stop.

I also hear that VIPRO and others do the same thing, since, American labour has surpassed what the market 'wants' to pay.

Shortage of Tech Pros my eye.....


The cost of regulatory compliance has become oppressive and hostile to businesses. Since they (like we) have no control over the many DC bureaus, they seek to control costs by reducing wages. They see cheap immigrant labor as the way out.

Again, our own government is working against the interests of the average citizen. We have no representation, but plenty of taxation and regulation.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (0HooB)

294 "I don't see that as being on the other side of the issue.

It's a travesty that we make legitimate, legal immigrants who want to become citizens endure years of expensive bureaucracy while turning a blind eye to those who came here illegally."


Wouldn't you come here illegally if you were a young Mexican who wanted to make a living? Why the hell wouldn't you when you can live like a king in America mowing lawns compared to the shit hole that is Mexico. One of our closest family friends was an illegal Mexican who worked on our family farm, and eventually we helped him to become a permanent resident and get a better job. He now has an extremely intelligent daughter going to college. That's living the American dream, and it was only possible for him by bypassing the leviathan bureaucracy by coming illegally.

So I'm not offended by people who do it illegally, because I can sympathize with them. I am offended by the government turning a blind eye to the illegals who are criminals who get the "catch and release" treatment. Like the drunk Mexican who nearly killed my mother; they all but literally let him go, did not even try to keep tabs on him.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (Fd8YL)

295 Agreed! But why not just make the case to donors/chamber that we're gonna be able to craft legislation much more favorable to them with a repub senate...plus we can jam obum

Posted by: jonmcboner at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (YUrBn)

296 Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 12:04 PM (Fd8YL


you changing status on a k-1 or k-3? u can do that yourself it's not difficult.

Posted by: Hillbilly Bob at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (Fp7JI)

297 How do you get off R snail-mailing lists? I'm
serious. I can tell them to stop calling me, but they won't stop sending
me crap through the mail.


Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (hHFOx)


If they include a postage paid envelope in whatever they send you (like for donations or surveys or whatever) send it back to them with your contempt for all they do scrawled across the survey/donation form. If you've got some unassuming spammish mail lying around (coupons, shit out of the Pennysaver, what have you), stuff that into the envelope, too; weigh it down so it costs more. Do that a few times and they'll stop sending you those kinds of requests. You'll probably still get stuff from individual politicians, though.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (4df7R)

298 My name is Reek, it rhymes with bleak.

Posted by: Theon at April 18, 2014 12:15 PM (s/sIv)

299 Coulda just crossed, then said "oops".

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 12:10 PM (N/cFh)

This probably won't help your blood pressure, but that's kind of what my mom did back in the 70's. Overstayed her visa, married my dad, had me, then one day had an interview with some immigration officer where she pleaded her case and the (female) officer approved her green card. Easy peasy. She did not have to pay a single cent.


For my wife, on the other hand, we are going through the legal process now, with about $1500 going to Uncle Sam for the privilege (for now).

Posted by: KG at April 18, 2014 12:15 PM (p7BzH)

300 271
Becktard filling in for Rush today.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:07 PM (thLL

Why not Steyn again?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at April 18, 2014 12:15 PM (AWmfW)

301 American Idol is the Gong Show less Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.

Posted by: Fritz
-----------------------

..and the plaid jacket.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 12:15 PM (aDwsi)

302 297 on the right track, but tape it to a nicely wrapped brick.

Posted by: Buddha at April 18, 2014 12:16 PM (s/sIv)

303 They sold me down the river for a damned free phone. Sigh.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Sam at April 18, 2014 12:16 PM (Dwehj)

304 Boehner...this douche would send the fed army to kick in your door just as fast Reid and they would both gleefully laugh about it in a smoke filled back room!

Posted by: Dr. NO NO at April 18, 2014 12:16 PM (QQTwW)

305 If we're on the Moody Blues, the most appropriate song would be TheStory in Your Eyes.
"But I'm frightened for your children, that the life that we are living is in vain and the sunshine we've been waiting for will turn to rain."
SMOD.

Posted by: Ghost of Patton at April 18, 2014 12:16 PM (+IAze)

306 Shorter Boehner: Let It Burn.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (IdOTf)

307 Americans won't do these jobs because we CAN'T AFFORD TO!!




Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (VjL9S)

______

That's true. But it's also not about to change any time soon. Welfare is not going away. Ever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (0LHZx)

308 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:14 PM (4df7R)

Done and done. Thank you, my sweet.

Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (hHFOx)

309 Why not Steyn again?

Because Rush seems to have aligned himself with The Beck. Why I don't know.

Btw, this Beck Blaze Buxton guy on right now is an idiot.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (thLL8)

310 Done and done. Thank you, my sweet.


Posted by: Mega at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (hHFOx)


You are ever so welcome, kind sir.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:17 PM (4df7R)

311 Amnesty or the Cubs win the World Series?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:18 PM (t3UFN)

312 Just FYI and for what it is worth. That nut and tree thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:12 PM (t3UFN)


Just for starters, anybody having a mindset and a staff that green light going on Alex Jones show is showing extremely sketchy judgement.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 12:18 PM (1Gj0g)

313 And just how does the business determine if someone is an illegal?
You speak German to them on the train but as you end the interview in German you add quickly in Spanish, "Buena suerte!" and when they reply, "Gracias!" out of habit, you arrest them. I got the idea from a movie.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 12:20 PM (hn5v5)

314 Its hard to beleive that we have been beating back the GOP desire to destroy itself since at least 2004, that's a freaking decade of battle.


They will absolutely stop at nothing.

If I didn't love my country as I do I would be inclined to let the.GOP destroy itself.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 18, 2014 12:20 PM (5TFvk)

315 So, can we talk about hag-face Hillary, the ineffectual Weeble who wobbles and DOES fall down, for a little bit? I love that the left is incensed over Drudge using that picture of her looking like an older, more decrepit mind-raped!Theoden King with the caption "Grandma Hillary," calling it disrespectful and "anti-woman." HAH! Their rage causes me great joy! How I would love to tell them all that my opinion of Cankles is that she is one stroke away from dribbling into a cup and she'll be lucky to live through the 2016 election, the old sagging hag!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R)

316
OT:
Heh. Unbelievable
http://tinyurl.com/m56fp9g

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 12:21 PM (xWW96)

317 I am trying to get out of my Officer and go do shit but a liquor store called and said they have a delivery so i am giving them an hour.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:22 PM (t3UFN)

318 For a good story on Good Friday - whatever happened to that bastard Michael Vick's 'fighting' dogs.


http://tinyurl.com/m72c7sk


awwwwwwwwwwww

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:22 PM (fWAjv)

319 315 So, can we talk about hag-face Hillary, the ineffectual Weeble who wobbles and DOES fall down, for a little bit? I love that the left is incensed over Drudge using that picture of her looking like an older, more decrepit mind-raped!Theoden King with the caption "Grandma Hillary," calling it disrespectful and "anti-woman." HAH! Their rage causes me great joy! How I would love to tell them all that my opinion of Cankles is that she is one stroke away from dribbling into a cup and she'll be lucky to live through the 2016 election, the old sagging hag!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R)

::swoon::

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:22 PM (DrWcr)

320 288-Tried that. They still find you. And we have moved 19 times in the last 26. I just received my Republican platform survey. I was rage-stroking at the end, because it stated that it was for small government, against illegal immigration, ending Obamacare, but damn if the Repubs haven't acted like that's what they believe in. And to have it read, you have to pay.

Good thing I am seeing my doctor today.

Posted by: ` at April 18, 2014 12:22 PM (EvHC8)

321 Big Boob Friday at The Hostages

Jordan Carver is the featured model this week, she's been featured often as an Open Thread Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/mxx5gbc

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (aTXUx)

322 Dammit-320 was me. My cat is helping un-type.

Posted by: Moki at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (EvHC8)

323 317 I am trying to get out of my Officer and go do shit but a liquor store called and said they have a delivery so i am giving them an hour.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:22 PM (t3UFN)


I'm sure the Officer will appreciate you getting out of him.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (fWAjv)

324 The defeat of Traditional Marriage shows what happens when you win the public, but lose the Judiciary and Ruling Class.

Get a 5-4 anti-gun coalition on the Supreme Court and the same thing will happen with gun rights.

Posted by: Gay Marriage Coalition at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (ZPrif)

325 Just remember the photos of the Gang of Four R's grinning ear to ear with the malevolent Schumer behind them (and asking Schumer for permission to vote)

Posted by: ejo at April 18, 2014 12:24 PM (GXvSO)

326 Another uncomfortable fact: without immigration, science research (legit science research, not bullshit global warming) basically ends. Look at the demographics in a physics/chemistry department. The undergrads will be mostly Americans, the grad students/post-docs and younger faculty will be mostly europeans and asians.

There's no kind way to explain this: Americans are too fucking dumb to do science anymore. Not so much dumb, as just extremely poorly educated in math and science.

At the university where I got my PhD the only American faculty were +60 years old. All the youngblood were europeans or south americans.


Ask one of them what their undergraduate experience was like. They'll tell you their physics degree consisted of nothing but physics and math classes. Contrast that with a typical degree at an american university, where 3/5 courses for a physics degree are multiculturalism, english, public speaking, history, etc.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 12:24 PM (Fd8YL)

327 Jordan Carver is the featured model this week, she's been featured often as an Open Thread Compliance Pic


She needs to set them free.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 12:24 PM (GQ8sn)

328 I'm sure the Officer will appreciate you getting out of him.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (fWAjv)


To be fair, the Officer COULD be a she.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (4df7R)

329 I am trying to get out of my Officer and go do shit but a liquor store called and said they have a delivery so i am giving them an hour.

Then there's the required Quality Control procedures on said delivery. In order to be successful, one must have one's priorities properly assigned.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (0HooB)

330 "273 I am thinking that something like that would be a way for Detroit to bring in some revenue.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 12:07 PM (PD6iL)

Even more if they were real.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:08 PM (DrWcr)"


The crucifixions in the Philippines are real in that the people have real nails driven through their real hands and feet into the real wood of the crosses that they are hanging from. They are not real in that they are not left there to die but are cut down after ten or fifteen minutes and receive medical treatment.


My guess would be that the paramedics in Detroit have lots of practice with people who have had metal stuck through their bodies.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (PD6iL)

331 325 Just remember the photos of the Gang of Four R's grinning ear to ear with the malevolent Schumer behind them (and asking Schumer for permission to vote)

Posted by: ejo at April 18, 2014 12:24 PM (GXvSO)

You're trying to kill me right?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (thLL8)

332 "But I'm frightened for your children, that the life that we are living is in vain and the sunshine we've been waiting for will turn to rain."
SMOD.

Posted by: Ghost of Patton at April 18, 2014 12:16 PM
.....Cold Hearted SMOD who rules the night....

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (/KiIU)

333 I'm sure the Officer will appreciate you getting out of him.
Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (fWAjv)

Shit. I could never spell or type

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (t3UFN)

334 I am trying to get out of my Officer and go do shit but a liquor
store called and said they have a delivery so i am giving them an hour.





... This is probably obvious, but why is a liquor store making a delivery to a dentist's office? Are your root canals THAT painful, NGU?


I keed!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (4df7R)

335 Grandma Hillary doesn't do cookies.

That's the villages job.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (ARcTh)

336 >>she is one stroke away from dribbling into a cup

Then again, so is Bill.

Posted by: Aviator at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (ZIvi3)

337 Shit. I could never spell or type

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (t3UFN)


Mental note to always doublecheck Rx's from NGU.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (GQ8sn)

338 321 Big Boob Friday at The Hostages Jordan Carver is the featured model this week, she's been featured often as an Open Thread Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/mxx5gbc
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (aTXUx)

Daaaaaamn!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (DrWcr)

339 To be fair, the Officer COULD be a she.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (4df7R)

Now how can I keep the war on womyn going if I said that?

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:27 PM (fWAjv)

340 "There's no kind way to explain this: Americans are too fucking dumb to do science anymore. Not so much dumb, as just extremely poorly educated in math and science."


And I'm not exaggerating on this. From personal conversations with a department chairman and professors, I learned that one particular physics graduate school I was at was giving preferential admission to American born applicants. You read that right: essentially affirmative-action for Americans, because various people in that particular university system were becoming concerned about the extreme low representation of Americans in the physics grad program.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 12:27 PM (Fd8YL)

341 My guess would be that the paramedics in Detroit have lots of practice
with people who have had metal stuck through their bodies.

Or worse.

Posted by: dickless rapper at April 18, 2014 12:27 PM (hn5v5)

342
Forget the walkback, this is Boehner's 'clinging to guns and religion' moment.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 12:27 PM (BrAHD)

343 The next time a lefty whines about a picture or article concerning Hillary's age, bring up one of the many "Is John McCain too old?" posts and articles from 2008.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (SY2Kh)

344 Will Rosetta Stone have a sale price on their Spanish edition this year?

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (Z7PrM)

345 My guess would be that the paramedics in Detroit have lots of practice with people who have had metal stuck through their bodies.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 18, 2014 12:25 PM (PD6iL)

I would imagine so.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (DrWcr)

346 but why is a liquor store making a delivery to a dentist's office? Are your root canals THAT painful, NGU?


I keed!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:26 PM (4df7R)

Getting in an Officer requires a bit of liquid courage the first couple of times around.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (fWAjv)

347 Grandma Hillary, I heard PaPa Bill on the phone talking to someone, I think it was a lady. What does lick it before you stick it mean?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 12:29 PM (/KiIU)

348 Getting in an Officer requires a bit of liquid courage the first couple of times around.
Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (fWAjv)

I'll bet it does.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:30 PM (DrWcr)

349
Getting in an Officer requires a bit of liquid courage the first couple of times around.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (fWAjv)


You sound like one who speaks from experience, RWC.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:30 PM (4df7R)

350 343
The next time a lefty whines about a picture or article concerning
Hillary's age, bring up one of the many "Is John McCain too old?" posts
and articles from 2008.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 12:28 PM (SY2Kh)


I saw some stupid twat over at Twitchy who had tweeted something along the lines of, "Grandpa R. Reagan. Fuck you, Drudge." Is that supposed to be new or something? Clearly the stupid c*nt doesn't remember the Demonrats constantly implying that Reagan was a senile old man.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:32 PM (4df7R)

351 Thinking it might help if I could get my missing dick featured on milk cartons.......

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 18, 2014 12:33 PM (xWW96)

352 Will Rosetta Stone have a sale price on their Spanish edition this year?

We have nothing to fear from the abecedario, my friendsh!

Posted by: Señor Juan McCain at April 18, 2014 12:33 PM (Dwehj)

353 "Have you seen this dick"

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (xWW96)

354 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (6PnZM)

355 Amnesty in 2014 or bust?

Then I say pres Hillary or bust

Posted by: Slapnutz at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (jjxgc)

356 Don't make fun of the mayor of Peoria.

DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT
Mayor sends police to raid home of TWITTER parodist... http://drudge.tw/1f30Lhb
View summary

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)

357 354 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.
Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (6PnZM)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (DrWcr)

358 Big Boob Friday at The Hostages Jordan Carver is the featured model this week, she's been featured often as an Open Thread Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/mxx5gbc


You'll put an eye out with that!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (lUXJH)

359 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.
Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (6PnZM)

Other than that stroke she had?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (t3UFN)

360 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.

Never trust anyone over 30.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 18, 2014 12:35 PM (0HooB)

361 You sound like one who speaks from experience, RWC.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:30 PM (4df7R)

I work in DuPont Circle. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Only on days not ending in Y though.



Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 12:36 PM (fWAjv)

362 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.

You're shittin' me, right?

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at April 18, 2014 12:36 PM (Dwehj)

363 Peoria takes twitter jokes serious.

The Police Raided My Friend's House Over a Parody Twitter Account | VICE United States http://www.vice.com/read/ the-police-raided-my-friends-house-over-a-parody-twitter-account via @VICE

Jon Daniel woke up on Thursday morning to a news crew in his living room, which was a welcome change from the company he had on Tuesday night, when the Peoria, Illinois, police came crashing through the door. The officers tore the 28-year-old’s home apart, seizing electronics and taking several of his roommates in for questioning; one woman who lived there spent three hours in an interrogation room. All for a parody Twitter account.

Yes, the cops raided Daniel’s home because they wanted to find out who was behind @peoriamayor, an account that had been shut down weeks ago by Twitter. When it was active, Daniel used it to portray Jim Ardis, the mayor of Peoria, as a weed-smoking, stripper-loving, Midwestern answer to Rob Ford. The account never had more than 50 followers, and Twitter had killed it because it wasn't clearly marked as a parody. It was a joke, a lark—but it brought the police to Daniel's door. The cops even took Daniel and one of his housemates in for in-depth questioning—they showed up at their jobs, cuffed them, and confiscated their phones—because of a bunch of Twitter jokes.

Now Daniel’s panicking.

“I’m going to fucking jail,” he told me yesterday when he was on a break from his job as a line cook. “They’re going to haul me away for this shit.”

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

364 6 Bottles of wine from Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:37 PM (t3UFN)

365 Boehner needs an Alabama Hot Pocket

Posted by: People Corporation at April 18, 2014 12:39 PM (pf+hU)

366 354
Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (6PnZM)


Why did anyone care about McLame's age?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:39 PM (4df7R)

367 Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:34 PM (6PnZM)

Why did anyone care about McLame's age?

----

No one did.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:40 PM (6PnZM)

368 It's getting to the point that I'm ready to say, "Shut it down."
You want Comprehensive Immigration Reform?? Then comprehensively shut it all down for forty-five years. Period. Then get rid of "birthright" citizenship since it was there to guarantee former slaves their citizenship as well as their kids. Shut that off, shut down all immigration, and enforce the hell out of the law. DONE.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 18, 2014 12:40 PM (Qp0nB)

369 I know you can eat a llama, but why would you want to.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 11:20 AM (MKpBT)

Because you can floss your teeth with the wool afterward?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 12:40 PM (4m+Gx)

370 "164
Republicans.... snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...."

It's worse than that.

They want to pump the stomach of victory out to regurgitate already chewed up defeat, and revive the amnesty cr*p and put it back on a sandwich.

Why? Because losing to Democrats is a lot easier than explaining to troublesome Republicans why you wont do what they want.

Posted by: Obama Lied Jobs Died at April 18, 2014 12:41 PM (wT9UL)

371 1980 Media -- Reagan is a confused, old man
1996 Media -- Bob Dole is a confused, old man
2008 Media -- McCain is a confused, old man

2014 Media -- How dare you talk about Hillary's age?! You sexist, ageist, disgusting bigots!!! How is her age of any concern? What scum would make an issue of a grandmother's age?

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:42 PM (ZPrif)

372 Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:37 PM (ZPrif)
==================

At the risk of pissing off the mayor of Peoria I'll just say that, on the surface and only having read this one piece, it looks to me as if the asshole going to jail should be the mayor, the police chief and whatever judge authorized this raid.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 12:43 PM (GOoUs)

373 Ah ain't no ways old!

Posted by: Ready for Hillary!!11!! at April 18, 2014 12:43 PM (Dwehj)

374 No one cares about age. The left simply uses whatever knock they can. Has nothing to do with age. Just like I didn't give a rat's ass about Obama's inexperience.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:43 PM (6PnZM)

375 No one did.

---

Except for the Media's constant jokes about how old and crotchety McCain is, yeah, nobody did.
If you ignore all the confused grandpa jokes, then yeah, you're right.

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:44 PM (ZPrif)

376 321 Big Boob Friday at The Hostages Jordan Carver is the featured model this week, she's been featured often as an Open Thread Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/mxx5gbc
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 12:23 PM (aTXUx)

.... that reminds me, my dipstick says I need my oil changed...

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 18, 2014 12:44 PM (zL/eJ)

377 David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog
When Hillary was born, Studebaker, Kaiser, Packard, Tucker, Hudson, Nash, &Crosley were all in business. Edsel would debut 10 years later.

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 12:45 PM (ZPrif)

378 Except for the Media's constant jokes about how old and crotchety McCain is, yeah, nobody did.
If you ignore all the confused grandpa jokes, then yeah, you're right.

My point was they really didnt care.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:45 PM (6PnZM)

379 Just like I didn't give a rat's ass about Obama's inexperience.

And how's that working out for you? Heh.

Posted by: SMOD at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (Dwehj)

380 I was in Peoria once

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (t3UFN)

381 SO it looks like Korean officials have issued an arrest warrant for the captain of that sunken ferry, as well as two other crew members.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (4df7R)

382 We really didnt care about obamas inexperience did we?

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (6PnZM)

383 Noodle!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (4df7R)

384 Nood Indian up

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 12:47 PM (tf9Ne)

385 SO it looks like Korean officials have issued an arrest warrant for the captain of that sunken ferry, as well as two other crew members.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 12:46 PM (4df7R)

well it's South Korea after all, it's not like he will be feed to hungry dogs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 12:47 PM (t3UFN)

386 And how's that working out for you? Heh.

about as i expected from electing a committed leftist.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:48 PM (6PnZM)

387 Why did anyone care about McLame's age?

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No one did.
Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:40 PM (6PnZM)


Bullshit. That was why it was so scandalous to have a stupid dodo-brain like Sarah Palin as VP candidate, because McCain was all old and he could keel over at any minute.

The Dems, though, nothing is worth criticizing, ever. Biden had a fucking brain aneurysm and nobody knows what caused Hillary to just fall down and then go into hiding and then have double vision for a month.

Because we are haters or some shit.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 12:48 PM (4+AaH)

388 reached the point of irreconcilable differences

It has taken pundits and the leadership of the GOP five years, five years to reach a conclusion that most conservatives had already reached by the end of 2008

Posted by: The Smith Family, Robinson Division at April 18, 2014 12:51 PM (rqJAU)

389 Bullshit. That was why it was so scandalous to have a stupid dodo-brain like Sarah Palin as VP candidate, because McCain was all old and he could keel over at any minute

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I agree they used it and made it an issue. I'm just making the point that they didn't really care about it. It was simply a point of attack. Perhaps it is the same thing. But I didn't really care about Obama's inexperience. I cared about his ideology.

I understand they made it an issue. But they didn't care about it.

Posted by: SH at April 18, 2014 12:53 PM (6PnZM)

390
Drew,
While no one likes a blind cheerleader for the GOP, do you really feel proud to continue the conservative civil war? All posts like this do is drain Republican enthusiasm, increase our apathy, and turn less Republicans out to the polls. Where democrats then crush us and we have more progressive rule and the country continues its downward spiral to destruction.
We would havewon in 12 if Republicans were enthusiastic about Romney, but instead people like you who are blinded by the need for pure position purity felt the need to criticize him and lower Republican turnout.
We are conservatives. We are suppose to judge actions not by their intentions, but by their results. Your intention may be to fight for the perfect candidate, but the result is you let the progressives win. They benefit from this, not us.
So why don't you start hyping pluses instead of harping on negatives?
For example, Boehner killed the planned immigration reform. If he wanted it to happen as written,it would have. Because he killed it, now he gets to dictate the terms. And immigration reform does need to be done on our terms, not the democrats, to get a secure border.

Posted by: Stone at April 18, 2014 12:56 PM (qRV1m)

391 [Carl Sagan voice]: "Fuck Boehner and Rubio in the ass with 'an infinitely hot, infinitely dense, infinitely massive, infinitely tiny point in space', one microsecond before the Big Bang."

Posted by: Sharkman at April 18, 2014 01:03 PM (TM1p8)

392 Yeah. Our POSTS drain Republican enthusiasm. The ACTIONS of McCain, McConnell, Boehner, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Kirk, Snowe et al... no effect whatever.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 18, 2014 01:04 PM (XO6WW)

393 "While no one likes a blind cheerleader for the GOP, do you really feel proud to continue the conservative civil war? All posts like this do is drain Republican enthusiasm, increase our apathy, and turn less Republicans out to the polls. Where democrats then crush us and we have more progressive rule and the country continues its downward spiral to destruction."


Dude, 8 years of GW Bush left us with more debt, more government spending than when he found it. In the long-run GW Bush administrations will bankrupt just as well as Obama's.

The problem isn't that Republicans can't win. The problem is that WHEN THEY DO WIN THEY DO NOTHING. Passing a tax break should not be a enough to win the praise of conservatives, and there aren't enough tax breaks in the world that can dig us out of the hole we are in. We have a massive government leviathan that is inefficient at all levels of government, and both establishment republicans and dems are responsible for that.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (Fd8YL)

394
"Dude, 8 years of GW Bush left us with more debt, more government spending than when he found it. In the long-run GW Bush administrations will bankrupt just as well as Obama's. "

That's simply not true. Bush was bad, but Obama has spent much more, and debt to GDP is much higher these days. We'd be in much better shape if we had a GWB than an Obama.

"We have a massive government leviathan that is inefficient at all levels of government, and both establishment republicans and dems are responsible for that."
Republicans are determined to shrink it. Democrats are determined to enlarge it. Even if Republicans try, and fail, to shrink government it is going to grow much less rapidly than under Dems.

Posted by: Stone at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (qRV1m)

395
and should they receive praise? Yes
Maybe they haven't earned it, but they should still get it. We need to back our people to the hilt.

Posted by: Stone at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (qRV1m)

396 I was wondering what the Republicans would do to completely wreck the best alignment of stars that they've had since '94; to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory; to re-affirm their "Party of Stupid" brand.

Wonder no more, I says.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I amn't at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (rz0yi)

397
Me: Hey, Thor, I need to borrow Mjolnir for a bit.
Thor: You can't lift it.
Me: Fine, then do me a solid and wack Boener with it for me.
Thor: Dude is impervious to it. I've even hit him with lightning and it just darkens his tan a bit.
Me: furk...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (1hM1d)

398 Moons aren't optional. You need one to stabilize the climate. If we didn't have one, the weather extremes would be too volatile to support human life.

Posted by: Fen at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (cYpak)

399 "That's simply not true. Bush was bad, but Obama has spent much more, and debt to GDP is much higher these days. We'd be in much better shape if we had a GWB than an Obama."

Bush left the debt bigger than he found it. Quibbling over whether it would be as big as Obama's is irrelevant, as both paths lead to financial disaster. Bush or Obama would bankrupt America. This is a fact.


"Republicans are determined to shrink it."

Can you explain the shrinking that Bush did? How much did "compassionate conservatism" shrink the government? How did Bush's expansion of Medicare shrink the government?

On the local level, I come from a small essentially 100% Republican town. Our police force is ridiculously, ridiculously too large and over-funded for the small crime-free town it's supposed to serve. My town ended up this way because gullible Reps want to be "tough on crime" and so sign onto any measure that expands the size and power and funding of the police force.

Both Reps and Dems are culpable.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (Fd8YL)

400 It will happen in late Nov or in Dec


Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 11:14 AM



This. If a conservative Congress is elected in November, ramming amnesty through the outgoing Congress can be the Establishment GOP's last hurrah FU to the base. After the base stays home in 2016, the Establishment will blame the conservative Congress for the resulting loss.

Posted by: gs at April 18, 2014 02:14 PM (Wc9US)

401 "367
Why does anyone care about Hillary's age.



Why did anyone care about McLame's age?
"


"No one did."

Leftists care passionately about using any excuse to mock a Republican. when it was 35 year old Mandel against 60 something aging Sherrod Brown it was 'maturity' against 'he's just a boy' (about a 30 something war veteran!). For McCain/Obama it was 'grumpy old man' vs 'he's the future'.

Wheeling out old warmonger grandma the screeching crone, they will be using a lot of pancake makeup to create whatever image is necessary ... to win.

Posted by: Obama Lied Jobs Died at April 18, 2014 02:22 PM (wT9UL)

402 Boehner has to go!

What a lying douche! Please don't tell him I said this or he will cry like the lying sissy he is.

Hey how about this?...

Lizze Warren (Lie-a-watha, fauxcohauntas) and Boehner (lying , crying, fake tanboy) on the same ticket.?

Would you vote for that?

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 18, 2014 02:23 PM (BWlrj)

403 It's fucking embarrassing that anyone would compare Bush and Obama or GOP and democrats, and conclude they're the same.. You people a fucking nuts

Posted by: A guy at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (5rWvu)

404 "according to two people in the room."

Hmmm. WHY would someone need anonymity to say that? Unless it's just made up, of course.

Already the THIRD "Boehner is going to betray us on immigration" scare this year, and it is only April. Nice work.

When there is a committee hearing, or a bill actually marked up, and not just Diaz-Balart talking about drafting one (seriously, that's not how the House works), wake me.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (QIQ6j)

405 "Republicans are determined to shrink it."
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I'm going to sue you for the fucking hernia I just got from laughing at this preposterous shit

Agenda 21
Medicare expansion
PARTIOT act and Homeland Security Dept
EPA

just to name 4 ridiculous government expansions under RINO GOP leadership

But We need to get with the program and just mindlessly support any candidate of the appropriate party, just like the Donks

I despise collectivism under any name and there are plenty of GOP "leaders" who are collectivists, I won't vote for a collectivist simply because of his/her party labels, That would make me a collectivist Donk in GOP garb sort of like Chris Christie

Posted by: Delurking Lurker at April 18, 2014 03:57 PM (t8sr/)

406 "Me: Hey, Thor, I need to borrow Mjolnir for a bit.

Thor: You can't lift it.

Me: Fine, then do me a solid and wack Boener with it for me.

Thor: Dude is impervious to it. I've even hit him with lightning and it just darkens his tan a bit.

Me: furk..."

Loki: What can I say? If John Boehner didn't exist, I would have to invent him. Oh, wait...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (XO6WW)

407 The LOSERship of the Stupid Party, once again planning to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Minimally, there's no reason to do immigration reform when the Dem's are in charge of 2/3rds of the process.

Posted by: Seipherd at April 18, 2014 08:10 PM (1etLu)

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