Food Thread: "You can have any color as long as it's black"

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I realize that this is a tortured comparison, but I see in the typical food lunatic a touch of the Colorado bakery insanity. When I go to a restaurant I expect that the business will accommodate me...up to a point. Sure, asking for extra-crispy fries is a reasonable request, but there is a point at which those requests become too time-consuming and expensive for any restaurant to tolerate.

It is a view that places the individual at the center of the universe, and I simply cannot tolerate that attitude. We are a (mostly) free people, but that freedom does not extend to the power to control others.

But back to food...I am usually happy to accommodate guests in my home with specific dietary requirements, but I have a line that I will not cross. If you don't like it...don't eat it.

Lewis Carroll had it exactly correct:

..."don't give yourself airs!
Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"

That being said, recently we had dinner guests* who brought a home-made gluten-free cake, and it was pretty damned tasty!

*Of course one was a conservative, and both loved baseball...

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Look, it's just a quiche without a pie shell. But it does sound easy, although what the hell is "dry biscuit mix?" Seriously...I have seen the biscuits in the tins in the refrigerator case, and have eaten my share of them. But is there really a product marketed as biscuit mix? Why? It's flour and baking powder and a bit of salt and maybe sugar. Am I missing something elemental about the complexity of mixing three dry ingredients in a bowl?
Impossible Ham And Swiss Pie
I like dishes like this for large breakfast or brunch gatherings, because they can feed a bunch of people and they don't require the skills of a short-order cook. I like cooking as much as the next guy, but sometimes I want to be able to relax with the people around the table with my breakfast bourbon and wax poetic about the joys of French Toast with butter and salt.
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Skip puts beans and vodka on his French Toast, and you give me shit for putting on salt and butter?

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I haven't had the opportunity to mock Chipotle for months! I guess their much-vaunted programs to address filthy, microbe-ridden food didn't work quite as well as they expected. It's one thing to address specific breakdowns in the logistics that allowed tainted ingredients to enter their restaurants, but when multiple attempts to remedy the problem have failed, perhaps it is time to address the overall design of the system. It is obvious that Chipotle does not get it. Their ersatz "farm-to-table" marketing plan is based on a chaotic supply chain that is uncontrollable. There is something to be said for that Sysco or McDonalds semi rolling up to the restaurant. Maybe the ingredients aren't locally sourced and caressed by vegan wood nymphs before harvest, but usually people don't get sick from them. And the current catastrophe is even worse. Unsafe temperatures means that the food safety system within the restaurant broke down.
CDC: Food left at unsafe temperatures led to illnesses at Ohio Chipotle
McDonald's has almost 20 times the number of restaurants, yet we hear about far fewer cases of food poisoning! Why is that?

I will cheerfully eat oysters and beef tartare, love a runny egg in my ramen, and become apoplectic over medium-well pork, but I would think twice before eating at a Chipotle.

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It's lunch. It isn't an existential attack on your way of life. It isn't someone sneaking into your house and kidnapping your children. It's the shape of your french fries.
Furious customers threaten to attack restaurant owner and his CHILDREN after he changed the shape of his famous $4 french fries
1. Anyone near Waterville Maine? Please spend a few bucks at this place.
B. People are crazy.
III. The owners should buy shotguns.
Four. I like straight-cut fries more than crinkle-cut.
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I love this dish, which is simply a fancy version of the chopped chicken livers my maternal grandmother made. That, and her cheese blintzes were my happiest memories of her kitchen (everything else was...um...sort of crappy)

Don't bother with the Cognac Gelée unless you really want authenticity. It's nice, but this dish used to be quite rustic until it was dandified by snooty city chefs.

Julia Child’s Chicken Liver Mousse

(Adapted from Mastering the Art of French Cooking)

• 2 c. chicken livers
• 2 tbsp. minced shallots
• 2 tbsp. butter
• 1/3 c. cognac
• 1/4 c. whipping cream
• 1/2 tsp. salt
• 1/8 tsp. allspice
• 1/8 tsp. pepper
• Pinch of thyme
• 1/2 c. melted butter
• Kosher salt and pepper

1. Remove any greenish or blackish spots from the livers, as well as any sinew. Cut the livers into 1/2″ pieces.

2. Melt butter over medium heat in a sauté pan until foam has subsided. Sauté livers with the shallots in butter for 2 to 3 minutes, until the livers are just stiffened, but still rosy inside. Scrape into the blender jar.

3. Pour the wine or cognac into the pan and boil it down rapidly until it has reduced to 3 tablespoons. Scrape it into the blender jar.

4. Add the cream and seasonings to the blender jar. Cover and blend at top speed for several seconds until the liver is a smooth paste.

5. Add the melted butter and blend several seconds more. Adjust seasoning.

6. Pack into the bowl or jar and chill for 2 to 3 hours.

Cognac Gelée
• 1/2 c. water, separated
• 1/2 tsp. unflavored gelatin
• 1/2 tsp. sugar
• 1/2 c. dry vermouth
• 2 tsp. cognac
1. Place 1/4 c. of warm water in a ramekin, sprinkle unflavored gelatin and let it stand for about 10 minutes.
2. In a small saucepan heat wine and sugar over medium-low heat for about 5 minutes.
3. Once the gelatin has softened, add the other 1/4 c. of hot water to the ramekin and dissolve until mixture becomes clear. Add the gelatin mixture to the warm wine mixture and mix thoroughly.
4. Remove the saucepan from the heat and add cognac. Let the warm mixture stand until it almost reaches room temperature. 5. Once it has cooled, pour over chilled mousse. Return the mousse to the fridge and chill until the gelée has set.

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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, Henry Big Boys in .357, gefilte fish replacements, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Being stubborn
It's show time

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (lxZ71)

2 I'll say 4th

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (5edY6)

3 Ok... 4 th

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (5edY6)

4 Last time 4 th

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (5edY6)

5 All is savory

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:02 PM (5edY6)

6 You call this a Food Thread? It's barely even a light snack thread!

Posted by: Michael Moore at August 19, 2018 04:04 PM (AcZtS)

7 although what the hell is "dry biscuit mix?" Seriously...I have seen the biscuits in the tins in the refrigerator case, and have eaten my share of them. But is there really a product marketed as biscuit mix?

Ummm.. unless I'm totally missing something that would be Bisquick.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:05 PM (dUJdY)

8 CBD, I don't know if you're kidding or not, but "dry biscuit mix" is Bisquick. They developed that whole line of "impossible" pies way back when as a way to entice people to use the mix for more than just biscuits.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:05 PM (JJZzu)

9 Mikey...put u foot in u cake hole and nosh. Very little assembly required!

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (5edY6)

10 Dry biscuit mix = Bisquik

Posted by: Low Energy Jeb at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (x7rWu)

11 See, Jewells knows.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (JJZzu)

12 You're gonna post a picture of Vodka without the recipe?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (lwiT4)

13 Gee, even I know what Bisquick is. Duh

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (lwiT4)

14 1 My tablet that is.
Finally have bacon in the house and had a BLT at lunch, but bought dough and ham to make a stomboli with some of the hot peppers, basil and tomatoes I got from garden. Also onion, pepperoni, cheese. Will fry up the vegetables roll out dough, chop up ham and pepperoni, cover with cheese, coat with egg wash then bake.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (lxZ71)

15 12
You're gonna post a picture of Vodka without the recipe?



Ummmmm, low T?

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (T6t7i)

16 Skip puts beans and vodka on his French Toast, and you give me shit for putting on salt and butter?
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Yes. Skip doesn't claim to be a pompous foodie.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (JJZzu)

17 Temperature, not testosterone. That would be silly.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (T6t7i)

18 The people of Waterville, Maine seem crazier than the ones in Brattleboro, Vermont.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 04:08 PM (AcZtS)

19 Re CHIPOTLE: I am so I tired of the smug grub fad. I wish Chipotle's patrons no harm, but I do get a little schadefreude every time I hear that theyve poisoned their customers again. And they'll never poison me because I won't go there.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at August 19, 2018 04:09 PM (d9Cw3)

20 On the subject of dinner: We are going to the fair and eating cheese curds and cotton candy while we stare at the carnies.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (lwiT4)

21 One WAS a conservative and both Loved baseball.

Gluten free finally did them in?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (dEFp1)

22 Forgot the maple syrup, CBD.

You've never heard of Bisquick?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (ZCD4H)

23 I tried something today I haven't done in years because the last time was a disaster but I am trying my hand at a brisket again. Not BBQ.. this is made with 2 cans of beef consomme, brussel sprouts, carrots, garlic etc. It smells divine but I will be broken hearted if it turns out tough again. I got a 6 pounder since it's just us 3 but figure leftovers for a few days!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (dUJdY)

24 Agree, its Busquick. Use to have it always around, would whip up what we called Ship's Biscuits in a flash when needed.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (lxZ71)

25 Wait...

Baked beans...and vodka.

On french toast.

Okay...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (ZCD4H)

26 I made some rather spectacular shish kebab last night, to the point where 3 women and I put away almost 4 lbs of meat (sirloin prime) with tons of marinated veggies. I marinated the meat for 8 hours in vinegar, lemon juice, and lime juice, plus Worcestershire sauce, cardamon, soy sauce, etc.. I was afraid the meat would be to acidic, but it was really, really good. The veggies got a nice balsamic vinaigrette.

All in all, one of my better efforts.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (T6t7i)

27 As a southerner, I'm afraid I cannot use instant biscuit mix. Very often.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (MVjcR)

28 22 It all makes sense now

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:12 PM (lxZ71)

29 The people of Waterville, Maine seem crazier than the ones in Brattleboro, Vermont.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 04:08 PM (AcZtS)
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They call them Mainiacs for a reason.

I had to laugh at the cop who wrote that he took his buddy there after he attended an autopsy. Also, I have to salute the titanium lining of his stomach if he was able to eat after that.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:12 PM (JJZzu)

30 25 Wait...

Baked beans...and vodka.

On french toast.

Okay...
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (ZCD4H)
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Needs syrup. Maple syrup.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:12 PM (MVjcR)

31 I'm doing the fridge-cleaning recipes right now. I had half a dozen slightly-past-their-prime tomatoes, some chicken stock, a bit of salsa, and a few squirts of ketchup left in the fridge, so I made some pretty decent tomato sauce and served it over mafaldine pasta.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 04:13 PM (kQs4Y)

32 It smells divine but I will be broken hearted if it turns out tough again.

A good thermometer is indispensable here (in fact I use multiple ones to be sure). I usually let mine go to 200-205C, and it's perfect. Less than that, and the connective tissue hasn't yet broken down, hence toughness.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 04:13 PM (T6t7i)

33 It smells divine but I will be broken hearted if it turns out tough again. I got a 6 pounder since it's just us 3 but figure leftovers for a few days!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (dUJdY)
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Jewells, the secret to getting it tender is to cook it low and slow in the oven. Maybe 300 degrees, and at least half an hour per pound, maybe a bit more. Don't take it out until a knife goes into it really easily. Or a shiv.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:14 PM (JJZzu)

34 I was in the market yesterday and I noticed a can of mushrooms marked "gluten-free"
Are there actually mushrooms with gluten ?
... or can I expect "gluten-free" tomatoes next ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 19, 2018 04:14 PM (e8kgV)

35 My tablet that is.
Finally have bacon in the house and had a BLT at lunch, but bought dough and ham to make a stomboli with some of the hot peppers, basil and tomatoes I got from garden. Also onion, pepperoni, cheese. Will fry up the vegetables roll out dough, chop up ham and pepperoni, cover with cheese, coat with egg wash then bake.
Posted by: Skip

Skip, what kind of dough do you buy? When we visit my SIL in western PA we have strombolis. We've made them at home, but the dough isn't quite right.

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2018 04:14 PM (8ikIW)

36 23 I tried something today I haven't done in years because the last time was a disaster but I am trying my hand at a brisket again. Not BBQ.. this is made with 2 cans of beef consomme, brussel sprouts, carrots, garlic etc. It smells divine but I will be broken hearted if it turns out tough again. I got a 6 pounder since it's just us 3 but figure leftovers for a few days!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (dUJdY)

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Brussel sprouts smelling divine...

Does not compute.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 04:15 PM (ZCD4H)

37 Eris! There you are! I'm making the bocaditos again for tonight (p. 133 of TDG, y'all) and this time I made my own phyllo cups out of phyllo sheets I had in the freezer. Stacked 5 sheets with melted butter in between each layer, cut the stack into 12 pieces, and smooshed each one into a mini muffin cup. Baked at 350 about 10 minutes. They turned out great. Will see how they do with the filling in them but I think they will be fine.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:16 PM (JJZzu)

38 This is my SIL's recipe and she said an hour per pound at 325. Hers turned out great. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:16 PM (dUJdY)

39 I interpret the dietary jihadis as adopting a passive aggressive way of controlling people and seeking their attention.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 04:16 PM (YqDXo)

40 Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort? (Blue crabs. In a restaurant, you perverts). I say no. Too much work, and it takes forever and you're expected to talk to the people you go with. Like in-laws.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (MVjcR)

41 "As a southerner, I'm afraid I cannot use instant biscuit mix. Very often."

Weasel--have you seen the "Alexa for Southerners" video? Hilarious bit about biscuits.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (S+f+m)

42 Bluebell, I would imagine they would ship very easily across state lines *HINT HINT*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (kQs4Y)

43 Impossible Pie looks like a big fat frittata.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (uLWyW)

44 37 Eris! There you are! I'm making the bocaditos again for tonight (p. 133 of TDG, y'all) and this time I made my own phyllo cups out of phyllo sheets I had in the freezer. Stacked 5 sheets with melted butter in between each layer, cut the stack into 12 pieces, and smooshed each one into a mini muffin cup. Baked at 350 about 10 minutes. They turned out great. Will see how they do with the filling in them but I think they will be fine.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:16 PM (JJZzu)
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Microwave burritos take 50 seconds in the WeaselAcres atomic oven.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (MVjcR)

45 Smoked a Pork shoulder yesterday and man I'm still high.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (kG2lj)

46 I got a pork roast in the crock pot covered with tomatoes, onions, celery, chicken stock and a 12 oz jar of pepperoncini.

Pork, it's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (EoRCO)

47
It's flour and baking powder and a bit of salt and maybe sugar.

I tried this recipe for biscuits and ended up with toasted flour.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (e1mEI)

48 Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (S+f+m)
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I have not- I'll check it out. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (MVjcR)

49 Store sells pizza dough that they also use for pizzas and do make up stomboli unbaked to sell.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (lxZ71)

50 Pork, it's what's for dinner.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (EoRCO)

That sounds delicious!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (dUJdY)

51 but I would think twice before eating at a Chipotle

Poorly trained, minimum wage employees, who lol'd at the 15 minute long Food Safety 101 training video... what the hell could go wrong?

Seriously, fresh food and vegetables still need to be kept cool. Sitting in a 72 degree environment means (math involved) some huge array of bacteria are replicating every minute. On a long enough time line those who show up at the end of the day are bound to pay homage to the porcelain gods shortly thereafter.

This isn't rocket science. Chipotle needs to die. It's obvious they're not learning from the experience of poisoning their customers.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (LOgQ4)

52 I get frozen pizza dough at a local bakery that has been here for years. It's wonderful. $1.25. Let thaw in fridge overnight. You can make tons of stuff with it.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (pcnVL)

53 Use to make lots of home made dough, best was using a lager beer,
http://thebeeroness.com/2012/11/29/beer-pizza-dough/

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (lxZ71)

54 31 I'm doing the fridge-cleaning recipes right now. I had half a dozen slightly-past-their-prime tomatoes, some chicken stock, a bit of salsa, and a few squirts of ketchup left in the fridge, so I made some pretty decent tomato sauce and served it over mafaldine pasta.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 04:13 PM (kQs4Y)
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Sometimes those fridge-cleaners make great meals!

And I find them extra-fun to cook because (1) you're usually doing something different and (2) there's no pressure since expectations are low.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (0jtPF)

55 Store sells pizza dough that they also use for pizzas and do make up stomboli unbaked to sell.
Posted by: Skip

Thanks. I'll give that a try
No strombolis anywhere near Chicago that I'm aware of

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2018 04:24 PM (8ikIW)

56 Skip puts beans and vodka on his French Toast, and you give me shit for putting on salt and butter?

You don't get sh*t for putting salt and butter on French Toast. You get sh*t for your advocacy/crusade/jihad against putting maple syrup on it, a position fly-over country finds incomprehensible.

However, this is only the latest in lunacies to spread miasmatically from the infestation that is NYC, salsa from said location being another in recent memory.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2018 04:25 PM (DMUuz)

57 "a view that places the individual at the center of the universe" That's why a-holes eat at restaurants: not because they are hungry, but because they like to play with the wait-staff like puppeteers. I cringe whenever I see diners being flirty, coy, chatty, jocular, or whatever with wait-staff. I wouldn't last 2 hours doing that job, having to take that lip and attitude from people.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:25 PM (mk9aG)

58 I was an adult before eating liver pate but grew up eating chicken liver. My grandmother would fry them up in clarified butter, salt and pepper to taste and they were served with warm Syrian bread (AKA pita). Delish! I still like them that way but had to cut back on the amount. As I got older and approached 29 the mass quantities didn't sit well. Instead of a meal, they are now a small appetizer. Damn!

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 04:26 PM (V+03K)

59 Making a pot a feu, simple version. Some root veges and alliums. Cabbage qrtrs on side
Always good on a sunday with a good bottle of red or two,

As its 95 or so outside, had to turn therm down to 68 inside.

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:28 PM (5edY6)

60 Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort?
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM


If you have a date tonight, yes.

Posted by: Lena at August 19, 2018 04:28 PM (DMUuz)

61 "I was in the market yesterday and I noticed a can of mushrooms marked "gluten-free"" Irony: they sell 5-lbs bags of pure gluten right there in the baking section. Mix it with flour, makes your pizza crust more rubbery-chewy.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:28 PM (mk9aG)

62 I made a Bisquick breakfast bake that was pretty good - eggs, cheese, some cream, peppers, tomato and dry mix. Tasty.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 04:30 PM (uLWyW)

63 Even better, Jewells!

Eris, I'll send you the leftovers, I promise!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:30 PM (JJZzu)

64 60 Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort?
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM

If you have a date tonight, yes.
Posted by: Lena at August 19, 2018 04:28 PM (DMUuz)
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I knew it!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

65 Bisquick has a whole bunch of those "Impossible Pie" recipes, ham and cheese, spinach, hamburger, quesadilla, etc. I'm only familiar with the savory and quiche-like pies, but a quick look at the Betty Crocker website shows recipes for impossible dessert pies, too (pumpkin, pear).

Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 04:30 PM (A/iod)

66 I was not joking about the dry biscuit mix. I haven't used Bisquick in years and years.

It just seemed silly to pay someone else to put a bit of leavening in some flour...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 04:31 PM (sW7iu)

67 local market had a Hatch Chile event yesterday: two bags of hot peppers, some guac, salsa and a pack of fresh roasted.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (s+Fdw)

68 Leavening = Crisco?

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (MVjcR)

69 All those Animal Rights Idiots who oppose using all animal products should all be stranded in the wilderness and lets see how long they would last their so brainwashed with the crap from PETA or some mindless movie with anamatronic talking piggies in them and HEY IF YOU DONT LIKE MILK,HONEY,GLUTEN or MEAT,POULTRY,EGGS or FISH then JUST GO OUT AND EAT GRASS or as my mom would say GO OUT IN THE GARDEN AND EAT WORMS

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (FLiOE)

70 It just seemed silly to pay someone else to put a bit of leavening in some flour...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 04:31 PM (sW7iu)
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Not everybody has waitstaff chained up in the basement, Dildo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (kQs4Y)

71 40 ... "Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort? (Blue crabs. In a restaurant, you perverts). I say no. Too much work, and it takes forever and you're expected to talk to the people you go with. Like in-laws."

Weasel, that only works when the restaurant pours a bushel worth of the steamed crabs in the middle of the table and everyone takes what they want. This is for serious shell fish consumers. Talking is permitted but usually restricted to terse comments with grunted replies. Getting the meat out of a crab is serious business, requiring attention. Socialize with steak or pizza.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (V+03K)

72 If you dont have Crohn's disease or Ulcerative colitis don't even think of trying your gluten-free b.s. with me. I don't believe in global-warmng either. These are both lame attempts at manipulating my behavior with your b.s.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (EZebt)

73 Skip, what kind of dough do you buy? When we visit my SIL in western PA we have strombolis. We've made them at home, but the dough isn't quite right.

Posted by: Bruce


Use the same as you would for pickle bread.

Start with a good dill dough.....

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 04:34 PM (kknE9)

74 Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (V+03K)
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That's the kind of place. Paper on the tables, wooden mallets and all. WeaselWoman is a fan. I'm staying home with WeaselDog.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (MVjcR)

75 I was once stuck in a McDonald's drive-through behind a woman who ordered a few Happy Meals for her kids, then she ordered "Meat" for herself. I know this because she started screaming, "MEAT! I SAID I WANT MEAT! JUST MEAT!" at the top of her lungs at the hapless McDonald's employee who was trying to figure out what she wanted. At first I didn't understand what she was saying, either. Then I thought, "Okay, you're probably doing low carb. Just order a few plain hamburgers, no buns. Why torture the employee?"

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (2NqXo)

76 I seldom eat in restaurants, usually only when travelling. I avoid lunch hours, and choose to eat at two. One thing I despise is the use of wait staff used as personal serfs, so I usually just ask them, when presented a menu, "what did you have for lunch?". More often or not, that's what I'll order, and for some reason get a smile, good service, and leave a good tip.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (xzqr4)

77 Dry biscuit mix = Bisquik, ese!

Posted by: Carlos Mencia at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

78 Come For The Dysentery And Save The Cost Of Airfare To Mexico!

Posted by: Chipotle's at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (TQyCa)

79 I have a friend whose daughter is extremely allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, eggs, and dairy. She pretty much has to bring her own food when she goes out. We recently had a one-week summer camp and my friend and her daughter came for a few days bringing their own food. While I think most people with special food requests are narcissists, for some people it's a matter of life and death.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (A/iod)

80 >>The people of Waterville, Maine seem crazier than the ones in Brattleboro, Vermont.

You have no idea.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (/tuJf)

81 68 Leavening = Crisco?
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (MVjcR)

A rising agent, like yeast or baking powder.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 04:37 PM (NWiLs)

82 You're gonna post a picture of Vodka without the recipe?


Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (lwiT4)

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Step 1: open bottle
Step 2: consume contents
Step 3: comment on the ONT

repeat until either a legend or banned, or both.



you're welcome.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:37 PM (s+Fdw)

83 Use the same as you would for pickle bread.

Start with a good dill dough.....
Posted by: JT

That's what I use and what some people say Bernie Sanders is.

Posted by: Elizibeth Warren at August 19, 2018 04:37 PM (kG2lj)

84
Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort?
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM



If you're at a location that specializes in crab picking it's quite fun. The traditional red striped picnic table covering, or hard core places -- even raw newspaper. Crayons for the kids. Lots of beer. Lots of crab.

Unhurried atmosphere. Fenwick Island, Delaware.

Worth every penny. But if the crab place doesn't specialize in that environment it's not worth it. They'll want to chase you out the door. Crab pickin' takes a lot of time and requires much beer.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 04:37 PM (LOgQ4)

85 Crab pickin is an acquired skill. Some good tutorials on tube you and elswhere.

Eating steamed blue crab ifits in nicely with the concept of 'slow food'. Just add wine and good company!

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:38 PM (5edY6)

86 so I usually just ask them, when presented a menu, "what did you have for lunch?". More often or not, that's what I'll order,

And hope that Cannibal Bob isn't your waiter.

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 04:38 PM (kknE9)

87 Greetings:

So, I'm in the checkout line at the local Safeway supermarket and the woman ahead of me has the whole conveyor covered with her groceries and there's not a piece of meat in sight.

So, I give Joe, the checker, the high sign and say, "You know, Safeway should have a separate checkout line for vegetarians.". The woman turns toward me and gives up a kind of half-smile.

So, I continue, "That way I wouldn't have to worry about their vegetables touching my meat.".

Posted by: 11B40 at August 19, 2018 04:38 PM (evgyj)

88 Chipotle is horrible. The last time I ate there, (several years ago), I had a coupon for free food. And I wanted my money back.

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 19, 2018 04:39 PM (PzBTm)

89 And I just heard about Kool-Aid pickles. Has anyone tried this? Apparently you take a jar of dill pickles, mix a package of sugar-free kool-aid and 1/2 or 2/3 cup sugar with the pickle juice, then refrigerate for a week. I have no idea if it's good or not, but I might have to try it.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 04:40 PM (A/iod)

90 In which Town was Funny Farm? I love that movie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 19, 2018 04:41 PM (PUmDY)

91 If you dont have Crohn's disease or Ulcerative
colitis don't even think of trying your gluten-free b.s. with me. I
don't believe in global-warmng either. These are both lame attempts at
manipulating my behavior with your b.s.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (EZebt)

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i have UC, and gluten isn't a problem.

of course, i got the disease via a non-standard mechanism that my docs refuse to consider in my treatment, because the VA's idea of "patient centered care" is to treat everyone with the same disease exactly the same way.

have i ever mentioned just how much i despise the VA?

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:41 PM (s+Fdw)

92 And I just heard about Kool-Aid pickles. Has anyone tried this?
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yes: they're great!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:41 PM (s+Fdw)

93 so I usually just ask them, when presented a menu, "what did you have for lunch?". More often or not, that's what I'll order,


Do they run over to Burger King and bring it back for you?

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 04:42 PM (kG2lj)

94 Julia Child's Chicken Liver Mousse

Ah, we have duck liver pate for lunch today... It's been a while since we had some. Room temperature smeared on a toasted slice of baguette - heaven.

Nice recipe, CBD.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:42 PM (uPlWr)

95 I'm cracking up, didn't see the picture caption

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:42 PM (lxZ71)

96 I'm kicking myself for not bringing my basil plant home from dad's. I have some wonderful fresh tomatoes and mozzarella. Big juicy ribeye. Maybe make some chive butter for the meat.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 04:42 PM (pcnVL)

97 A professor friend at a local college noted that it is now virtually impossible to have a dinner party for students, because their dietary requirements vary so widely.

I think the essence of millennial snowflakeness is to decide that a very limited range of food is acceptable, without any actual medical reason for doing so.

Posted by: The ARC of History at August 19, 2018 04:43 PM (dlwIY)

98
Wooden mallets at a crab place? Just proves you're a newbie. Folks with 'sperience break those little suckers apart, and strip the meat from the cartilage with their bare left hand. While signaling for more beer with their right hand.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 04:43 PM (LOgQ4)

99 Good afternoon! I'm 45 min late, and not even 100 comments? Everybody else must have been working in the yard today, too.

I, too, have pork roast in the crockpot, but cubed and smothered with Stubb's Rub. It makes a nice pulled pork that I'll eat for lunch pretty much every day.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 04:43 PM (e8PP1)

100 This isn't rocket science. Chipotle needs to die. It's obvious they're not learning from the experience of poisoning their customers.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM

Their customers don't seem to be learning, either. It's a mystery how multiple incidents over several years hasn't taken them out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 04:43 PM (2NqXo)

101

...Always make quiche when we have overnight guests, or host a breakfast/brunch thing.

Can't go wrong. I usually make a couple. One with meat (mostly bacon!) and one with veggies.

They are good cold later on or the next day. Although I try to rewarm mine. Hubby will eat it cold, no problem.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:44 PM (uPlWr)

102 As a kid I didn't question the purpose of Biscuit. Probably assumed there was some special ingredient involved. Hey, it made biscuits and pie crust and stuff so it had value to little boys.

Now I'm insulted that I'm too stupid and/or lazy to mix flour and one or two other dry ingredients. And the more persnickety I am about my ingredients, the more I'm insulted with the boxed crap.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 04:45 PM (V+03K)

103 and now i must go outside and finish the rack for the bottom of the big frig.

cut all the aluminum tubing last night, but need to get it assembled and installed today, *then* try one last trick to get the log splitter up and running, otherwise it's off to a service center to get the new high pressure line installed.

if i can fit it in, there's some shingles that need to go on a roof face too.

hope to be back NLT the gub thread, all things being equal.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:45 PM (s+Fdw)

104 I might add the fat of the blue crab is the condiment that should never be tossed. It is the essence of that ararchnid!

One of the great gifts God put here for us to savor.

'Sides wine, beer is perfectly acceptable

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 04:45 PM (5edY6)

105 OT: I had a terrible thought this morning when I woke up... What if the social media platforms are also shadow-censoring conservative "Get out the Vote" efforts? I was out of town for work when our state held its primaries, but I don't recall getting any kind of notification or update, like I have in past years, about the date or where to vote. I didn't even realize it was the day until I started seeing all of my liberal connections on FB posting about how they voted.

I think this would explain at least some of the significant drop in turnout for Republicans compared to 2016... Any thoughts? Is there any way we can verify or test this?

Posted by: I smell something rotten at August 19, 2018 04:45 PM (IBt/r)

106

I was trying to remember an Asian show I started watching on Netflix where the girl ended each show with a real recipe, and how to make it. They wove the food into the show, and she highlights it later on.

I cancelled Netflix, but I think it was called The Cravings. Was very cute from what I remember.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:46 PM (uPlWr)

107 Reminds me, I haven't made aunt Martha's breakfast casserole for a long time.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 04:46 PM (pcnVL)

108 so I usually just ask them, when presented a menu, "what did you have for lunch?". More often or not, that's what I'll order,


Do they run over to Burger King and bring it back for you?

Posted by: X-ray


LOL !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 04:47 PM (kknE9)

109 Leavening = Crisco?
Posted by: Weasel


No, stuff that makes bread rise. Baking powder, other chemicals, or you know, yeast.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2018 04:47 PM (1jWCo)

110 It just seemed silly to pay someone else to put a bit of leavening in some flour...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 04:31 PM (sW7iu)

I'm with you on this. Same with self-rising flour. WTH?

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 04:47 PM (e8PP1)

111 If you have fries as a marquee product you better not suddenly swap out for a new version. I suppose they can do the new coke thing and bring back "classic fries" only a slightly inferior version. Then your customer will get the Mexican version that still has phosphates.

No I'm not punchin' anyone over fires I shouldn't be eating anyway but I would probably be mad enough to go somewhere else if I ever did want to, you have to ease into changes like that and make the new version seem like a step up. Bad move to end the old way all of a sudden like that.

Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 04:48 PM (Sp1NT)

112 People in Maine sure take their French fries seriously.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 19, 2018 04:49 PM (eAMlh)

113 Vodka and beans? That actually sounds kinda yummy...

And time spent busting on Chipotle is time well spent. It was a "statement" from go, but they didn't anticipate that the statement would be "filthy hipster farms = filthy hipster diseases." Don't feed me a way of life, feed me a decent burrito and get out of my face.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 19, 2018 04:50 PM (1FhAQ)

114
I love Ham n Swiss keeyssh, but I won't eat quince. They put spinach in quince.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 19, 2018 04:50 PM (I9Sw7)

115 Fresh basil is wonderful.
Made refrigerator pickles last week, couple co-workers thought they were really good. Having them with lunch every day.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (lxZ71)

116

We're having Nachos tonight. One big mountain of chips and layers of meat and glop. While watching an episode of Agatha Christie's Partners in Crime. Fun stuff.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (uPlWr)

117 Inflammation / anti-inflammation is the big thing. Bing it and one will find much contradictory information.

PBS show yesterday, the MD presenter said it's basically the Mediterranean Diet but also fat; good fat like butter.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (B7Uun)

118 I always felt my mother's handcut chicken soup noodles tasted better than absolutely even and consistent pre-packaged noodles.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (eAMlh)

119 While I think most people with special food requests are narcissists, for some people it's a matter of life and death.
Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (A/iod)

I feel for those people, I really do. What pisses me off is when they demand that everyone in a two-mile radius of them refrain from eating things that they are allergic to.

On the other hand, hangers-on like the not-really-gluten-intolerant crowd create a market for better gluten-free products that truly intolerant people can enjoy, so, there's that.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (e8PP1)

120 The vodka is for the vanilla, have to get more

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (lxZ71)

121 Step away from the French Toast Skip.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (NpK5V)

122 Oh, is that middle aged woman trolling him or is he trolling her?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (B7Uun)

123 While watching an episode of Agatha Christie's Partners in Crime. Fun stuff.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (uPlWr)
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Is that the new version? Is it any good?

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (JJZzu)

124 A professor friend at a local college noted that it is now virtually impossible to have a dinner party for students, because their dietary requirements vary so widely. ---


I've been to dinner party's where the food was not what I liked. Never thought to ask anyone to make something special for me though. I'll go hungry and pick something up on the way home. Or just eat what I don't like to be courteous. I get that this is not an option for people with real food allergies.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (kG2lj)

125 My dad was a baker, had his own small shop . For some reason, we always had Bisquik on the shelf. Mom used it all the time, as did the old man when baking and cooking and drinking at home (a good hobby).

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (xzqr4)

126 Mixes are formulated to be as fool-proof as possible. It takes any guess work out of the recipe. The ingredients are also milled/ground to certain specs to help out the results. ( and they're more likely to be within expiry, unlike the grab bag of ingredients you have lying around.)

Things like cake mixes have industrial ingredients that few home cooks would mess with and produce better results for 85% of home cooks.

And if you only make a couple of cakes, trays of biscuits, etc, per year - who fucking cares.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2018 04:54 PM (1jWCo)

127 79 I have a friend whose daughter is extremely allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, eggs, and dairy. She pretty much has to bring her own food when she goes out. We recently had a one-week summer camp and my friend and her daughter came for a few days bringing their own food. While I think most people with special food requests are narcissists, for some people it's a matter of life and death.
Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (A/iod)
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Heh.
One thing I have noticed is that most of the people like your friend's daughter, the ones who have GENUINE problems, tend to bring their own food, etc. They try not to mess things up for the rest of the world.

It's the fancifully "sensitive" ones who are usually the most demanding.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 04:54 PM (0jtPF)

128 " People in Maine sure take their French fries seriously."

It's all that Canuck influence.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 04:55 PM (V+03K)

129 Things I wish I could get around here that aren't crinkle fries -

a real pavlova.

Really good cream

Heart shape waffles



Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 04:55 PM (Sp1NT)

130 Here's how I define a restaurant accommodating my food preferences: they allow me to substitute a vegetable or salad for the starch they usually include with an entree. And if they won't, then it's just okie dokie with me. It's their fucking restaurant after all.

Love that photo/meme.

Posted by: steve walsh at August 19, 2018 04:55 PM (lD3v6)

131 But is there really a product marketed as biscuit mix?

The Bob's Red Mill gang have one without chemicals.

As a tribute to your picts and the first few paragraphs, it's Kosher AND Gluten Free!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:56 PM (uPlWr)

132 You're gonna post a picture of Vodka without the recipe?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (lwiT4)


+ Vermouth, stirred in ice

add a few olives if you like

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (uPlWr)

133 lol.. some of the morons are still having some fun on the thread below.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (dUJdY)

134 But is there really a product marketed as biscuit mix? Why? It's flour and baking powder and a bit of salt and maybe sugar. Am I missing something elemental about the complexity of mixing three dry ingredients in a bowl?



Tell your attorneys to expect a call.

Posted by: Bisquick, a General Mills product brought to you by Betty Crocker at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (fuK7c)

135 SarahW, making pavlova is really easy! You should try it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:58 PM (JJZzu)

136 I s for those people, I really do. What pisses me off is when they demand that everyone in a two-mile radius of them refrain from eating things that they are allergic to.

On the other hand, hangers-on like the not-really-gluten-intolerant crowd create a market for better gluten-free products that truly intolerant people can enjoy, so, there's that.
Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 04:52 PM (e8PP1)

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Yeah, this gets me too. A woman with a daughter with such food allergies tried to get everything her little angel was allergic to banned at my daughter's elementary school, instead of sending her with her own food.

A group of us got together and said "lawsuit" to the Principal. The woman's daughter transferred schools a week later.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 04:59 PM (I16G8)

137 I was not joking about the dry biscuit mix. I haven't used Bisquick in years and years.

It just seemed silly to pay someone else to put a bit of leavening in some flour...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 04:31 PM (sW7iu)


I always that the same. It doesn't make sense. But if there are people who do not bake at all, and just don't have the dry ingredients in the house... it works.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 04:59 PM (uPlWr)

138 I bought 1" thick bone in pork chops yesterday and have been brining them since last night. Starting the grill now. Ohboyohboyohboy

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 19, 2018 04:59 PM (NpK5V)

139 Red Lobster sells their cheese biscuit mix in stores. Friggin' awesome, them biscuits.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 05:00 PM (EhZNT)

140 I have a friend whose daughter is extremely allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, eggs, and dairy. She pretty much has to bring her own food when she goes out. We recently had a one-week summer camp and my friend and her daughter came for a few days bringing their own food. While I think most people with special food requests are narcissists, for some people it's a matter of life and death.
Posted by: biancaneve

If I was extremely allergic, I would be scared to even eat at a restaurant. The food is one thing, but the possibility of cross contamination of whatever it is you are allergic to would be the biggest problem

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2018 05:00 PM (8ikIW)

141 I made a fabulous pavlova last month. It's not hard, but I can never get one anywhere when I eat out, or even at a bake shop.

Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 05:00 PM (Sp1NT)

142 I saw an article somewhere that "inflammation" is the only real problem on this planet. Read the whole thing, learned nothing. Waking up in the morning and opening your eyes is a major contributor, though.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 05:01 PM (RuIsu)

143 You're gonna post a picture of Vodka without the recipe?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (lwiT4)

+ Vermouth, stirred in ice

add a few olives if you like
Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Shaken not stirred.

Posted by: Bond James Bond at August 19, 2018 05:02 PM (kG2lj)

144 That sounds delicious!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (dUJdY)

Thanks Jewells! It's like pulled pork with a twist.

1 hour and 26 minutes till Martini Time......

Tick tock body rock......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 05:03 PM (EoRCO)

145 Vodka makes most recipes better. This is known.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 05:03 PM (zLDYs)

146 I made a fabulous pavlova last month. It's not hard, but I can never get one anywhere when I eat out, or even at a bake shop.
Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 05:00 PM (Sp1NT)
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Ah. I see. I can see why they wouldn't have them in a bakery (they would melt) but I would think a restaurant might have them now and again. Weren't they created in Australia? Maybe you could try there!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 05:04 PM (JJZzu)

147 Is that the new version? Is it any good?
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 04:53 PM (JJZzu)


I don't know. I just subscribed to ACORN and started watching it there.

oh, just looked it up, it's this one

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3574152/?ref_=nv_sr_1


I really like ACORN so far. Catching up on goofy shows like Doc Martin and QI and dramas I used to watch like Vera, but also trying some new ones, Jack Irish, Hidden, and oldies like Mr. Palfrey of Westminster, Single-handed, Five Days the Train, etc.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 05:04 PM (uPlWr)

148 of course, i got the disease via a non-standard mechanism that my docs refuse to consider in my treatment, because the VA's idea of "patient centered care" is to treat everyone with the same disease exactly the same way.

have i ever mentioned just how much i despise the VA?
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 04:41 PM (s+Fdw)

"Evidence based medicine" has been all the rage for a while now. It does lend some efficiencies to treating commonly occurring conditions, but slavish devotion to it creates problems by discounting more idiosyncratic presentations.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:05 PM (NWiLs)

149 126 Dad would often get a special cake order. His menu at the shop was limited, so he would just walk across the street to the neighborhood grocer and get a few boxes of Duncan Hines. Not that the old man couldn't do it, it was just a pain in the ass. Ask me about stretching fruit pie fillings with tapioca.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 19, 2018 05:05 PM (xzqr4)

150 Hey everybody.

Anyone ever have a meal that was SO good, it wasn't just a good meal, it was a good *experience*?

In my own experience, this has been true even with things you wouldn't expect to cause it... like for instance, a few Big Macs I've eaten over the years. When the teenager at McD's actually cares about what they're doing, OMG.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:05 PM (km8m2)

151 150 Hey everybody.

Anyone ever have a meal that was SO good, it wasn't just a good meal, it was a good *experience*?

In my own experience, this has been true even with things you wouldn't expect to cause it... like for instance, a few Big Macs I've eaten over the years. When the teenager at McD's actually cares about what they're doing, OMG.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:05 PM (km8m2)

Yep. Local Cajun restaurant. It was a foodgasmic experience.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:07 PM (NWiLs)

152

Time to get the ladder and build the Nacho's!

Have fun and bon appetit y'all!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2018 05:07 PM (uPlWr)

153
"... I would be scared to even eat at a restaurant. The food is one thing, but the possibility of cross contamination of whatever it is you are allergic to would be the biggest problem
Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2018 05:00 PM

Especially from waiters and waitresses who are porting around the allergenic foods and can't take time to go through a decontamination shower to serve the vulnerable. If you are serving peanut soup to multiple tables or four dusted rolls a person with peanut allergy or real gluten ntolerance rolls the dice just being served anything.

Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 05:07 PM (Sp1NT)

154 40 Here's a question - is crab picking worth the effort? (Blue crabs. In a restaurant, you perverts). I say no. Too much work, and it takes forever and you're expected to talk to the people you go with. Like in-laws.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (MVjcR)

I always thought the cost/benefit ratio on any crab other than Alaska king crabs was unfavorable. But then I wolf my food and don't talk much, so maybe it's my misanthropic tendencies speaking.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 19, 2018 05:07 PM (1FhAQ)

155 Bluebell quit sucking up to the Cob

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 19, 2018 05:09 PM (3Pma+)

156 I assume people had a peanut allergy way back in the dark ages of my youth. But I NEVER heard of anyone who coudn't eat peanut butter when I was growing up.


Food allergies are real for some people. I know that. But I have to wonder how many 'allergic' folks are being fashionable.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 05:09 PM (V+03K)

157 It occurred to me recently that whatever Old Country food traditions that lingered in my Dad's family since the 1830's when they came over from Germany to Brooklyn died out in my generation. We always had rye bread, pumpernickel, liverwurst, sauerkraut, etc. in the house because my Dad wanted those things. Grandma's house meant sauerbraten dinners, while Xmas Eve was always cold cuts and potato salad, stollen, etc. After the old folks and my Dad passed on, those food traditions bit the dust. I never ate most of that stuff anyway. The only thing that still makes it on the menu is sweet and sour red cabbage. Love that stuff with pork.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 05:10 PM (2NqXo)

158 Jimmy Deans Turkey Breakfast Sausage patties are pretty good. Had them on an English Muffin with a slice of Kraft cheese. Yum.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 19, 2018 05:10 PM (r9UYA)

159 Good Lord sorry to go OT but hubby is sick AGAIN. He hasn't felt really good in over a month. Started in AZ, he thought he was better now he's down again. Sore throat, congestion, no energy at all. I wonder if all the meds he takes is taking a toll on his immune system?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 05:12 PM (dUJdY)

160 Jimmy Deans Turkey Breakfast Sausage patties are pretty good. Had them on an English Muffin with a slice of Kraft cheese. Yum.


Turkey sausage. Kraft "cheese".

The only word not wrong in that sentence is English muffin, and you probably didn't even get Thomas'.


*(it is important to be judgey in a food thread).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:13 PM (fuK7c)

161 150 I stopped in a roadhouse in Texas, a little place called Hamburger Dan's.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 19, 2018 05:14 PM (xzqr4)

162
*(it is important to be judgey in a food thread).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:13 PM (fuK7c)
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I tried to start a fight over crab picking earlier and it just didn't get legs.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:15 PM (MVjcR)

163 I agree that some people are genuinely allergic to certain foods. But I suspect it's rare, otherwise there'd be a lot more serious illness and death. If you diagrammed the overlap of people with kids who are "allergic" to various foods with parents who don't believe in childhood vaccines but do believe in homeopathic remedies, my guess is that the overlap would be large.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 05:15 PM (H5knJ)

164 Dry biscuit mix = Bisquick or Jiffy

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (9BwmK)

165 ".....Australia? Maybe you could try there!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 05:04 PM"

I am dreading winter so much, the idea of a second summer a some Pavlova sounds pretty good right now.

Posted by: SarahW at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (Sp1NT)

166 I tried to start a fight over crab picking earlier and it just didn't get legs.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:15 PM (MVjcR)

Folks just wouldn't come out of their shells.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (NWiLs)

167 Quit picking on Chipotle, the one Pizza Hut in the nearest town sickens more people on an average weekend than Chipotle does in a year.

The Pizza Hut corporate troubleshooter spent so much time here he bought a house and married one of the girls from town.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse It's not rape if I'm wearing the dress Tyson at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (1L9V9)

168 I cannot stand crab feasts or whatever. I do not do the crab picking thing. It is a pain in the keester.

Maybe it has something to do with the crab looking at me with lifeless eyes while I dismantle it. And the legs. I am not a big fan of food on my plate with legs on it. That is like getting a steak with a hoof hanging off of it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:17 PM (++G28)

169 164 Dry biscuit mix = Bisquick or Jiffy
Posted by: Antisocialist at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (9BwmK)

You always get a stiffy when you bake with Jiffy.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:17 PM (NWiLs)

170
Folks just wouldn't come out of their shells.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (NWiLs)
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Yep. Kinda has me steamed.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:17 PM (MVjcR)

171 I saw an article last night claiming that P. Terry's, in Texas, is the all-time best American burger chain, anywhere.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:19 PM (km8m2)

172 162. Weasel
Most wrestle/fight with the blue crab, the legs go into the stockpot for stock/soup (after they get noshed on of course).

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (5edY6)

173 I tried to start a fight over crab picking earlier and it just didn't get legs.


Yeah, I don't have enough experience with that. I have spent some time at picnic tables covered in newspaper hitting crustaceans with a hammer, but I don't know it inside and out.

The song of my people is lobster. It was important that you get everything out of legs and the thorax and that you eat the tomalley and such, but crabs are a Dark Art of the Mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (fuK7c)

174 bill in arkansas, hmm. Back in the 1950s here in California, there was a chain of coffee shops called Coffee Dan's.

(It's what caused the owners of a then-new place started up in my hometown of Lakewood, to change their name from Danny's Donuts, to Denny's.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (km8m2)

175 170
Folks just wouldn't come out of their shells.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (NWiLs)
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Yep. Kinda has me steamed.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:17 PM (MVjcR)

Sometimes things just go sideways.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (NWiLs)

176 Taking early photos for the gardening and pet threads this week. Out of town for a coupla days later.

I know. Off topic. Unless you mention edibles from the garden or something pets can eat.

Posted by: KT at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (BVQ+1)

177 I should probably save this for the Home Furnishing Thread, but our new living room couch was delivered while I was at the farm. Not as comfy as the old couch.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (MVjcR)

178 I feel the same way about crawfish. Like crab, I like them a lot. But the time and effort involved . . .

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 05:21 PM (H5knJ)

179 If you don't like the food I like then you are a big dummy who should not be allowed to live.

Posted by: Food snob at August 19, 2018 05:21 PM (IqV8l)

180 Insomniac, cajun is always good for a foodgasm. ;-)

Food that takes your mind of your troubles...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:21 PM (km8m2)

181 KTY is genuinely but only mildly allergic to crab and some shellfish.
It can make her get cramps, nausea, dizziness, pallor.
But fortunately not very sensitive- cross contamination does not seeman issue with her, just actually eating it.

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 19, 2018 05:22 PM (CE6iV)

182 175 170
Folks just wouldn't come out of their shells.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (NWiLs)
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Yep. Kinda has me steamed.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:17 PM (MVjcR)

Sometimes things just go sideways.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (NWiLs)
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I was hoping it would be something everyone could get their claws into.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:22 PM (MVjcR)

183 dry biscuit mix= find the wet spot.

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 05:22 PM (5IHGB)

184 I cannot stand crab feasts or whatever. I do not do the crab picking thing.

They're big ticks with a shell. I'll be over at McD's...

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2018 05:23 PM (oTMWb)

185 Bluebell quit sucking up to the Cob
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 19, 2018 05:09 PM


Holy moley! bluebell has gone pin stripes!

Posted by: Dumcanthrax at August 19, 2018 05:23 PM (DMUuz)

186 Also I posted at FB last night:

I can go for months and months, and then BAM!...

Big Mac craving.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:23 PM (km8m2)

187 176 Taking early photos for the gardening and pet threads this week. Out of town for a coupla days later.

I know. Off topic. Unless you mention edibles from the garden or something pets can eat.
Posted by: KT at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (BVQ+1)
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WeaselDog rolled in cow-poo and I suspect ate a little. No pics though -I was busy chasing her with the garden hose.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:25 PM (MVjcR)

188 I wonder if all the meds he takes is taking a toll on his immune system?

Could be. I have a sneaking suspicion that modern medicine in large quantities quite often does the opposite of what it was intended to do.

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 19, 2018 05:25 PM (9BwmK)

189 I've made the Impossible Ham and Swiss Cheese Pie. Assumed "dry biscuit mix" meant Bisquick so I used that. (Had to go out and buy a box because I don't use it.)
The recipe is easy and good although it has a little too much ham for my family's taste. It's fun to get creative with it and substitute ingredients: zucchini and hot pepper jack, bacon and cheddar, etc.
The family loves it but I love the taste of eggs and find it just a little "doughy". I searched recipes for crustless quiche and found a trove of them online. They're all very easy and fast to make, and none of them call for "dry biscuit mix".

Question: Anyone know if there's a difference between a frittata and a crustless quiche?

Posted by: jix at August 19, 2018 05:26 PM (Xx3z8)

190 175...OMG! The pun wars have started!! Now I'm steamed.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 05:27 PM (V+03K)

191 I can go for months and months, and then BAM!...

Big Mac craving.



Well, in a world where things just keep getting worse one thing has got better.

I was in the same boat. About once a year I'd say to myself, self, remember how you really liked those Whoppers at Burger King? And myself would say Yeah! and fail to mention that they don't make them the same any more and that each annual experiment ends in regret, disaster, and uncomfortable bathroom experiences.

Well, McD now makes its quarter pounders out of real meat. They taste good. It's astounding.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:27 PM (fuK7c)

192 The only thing I know about quiche is that real men don't eat it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:28 PM (km8m2)

193 Saw this earlier, seems timely. McDonalds sickens 476 in 15 states.
https://tinyurl.com/y9uskpde

Posted by: never enough caffeine at August 19, 2018 05:28 PM (N3JsI)

194 Another use for Bisquick: breading for deep-frying. I call it "redneck tempura".

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 05:28 PM (yzxic)

195 Bandersnatch, I know. McDs coming up with an actual good idea. It's like something got into their water or something.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:28 PM (km8m2)

196 Smoked a big pork shoulder yesterday. Thinking of taking a pound of it and mixing it with taco seasoning packet out of the pantry for tonight's dinner. Can't think of how that could be bad and it was a big shoulder so I will be eating different versions of left over pulled pork for awhile.

Posted by: Bond James Bond at August 19, 2018 05:29 PM (kG2lj)

197 never enough caffeine, so McD's campaign to emulate Chipotle is paying off!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:29 PM (km8m2)

198
I can go for months and months, and then BAM!...

Big Mac craving.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:23 PM


That's what I liked about the movie 'Burnt' with Bradley Cooper. He sits down at a fast food place and in effect breaks down the components of a Big Mac in high-hifalutin culinary terms.

There's a reason it tastes good. Another reason why it's about 800 calories.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 05:29 PM (LOgQ4)

199 Question: Anyone know if there's a difference between a frittata and a crustless quiche?


I believe a frittata is fried and a quiche is baked.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:29 PM (fuK7c)

200 lso I posted at FB last night:
I can go for months and months, and then BAM!...
Big Mac craving.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:23 PM (km8m2)

Yup.....I get a Big Mac and order an extra hamburger.

Then I take the meat from the hamburger and slap it under the top bun of the Big Mac, as it should be.

I call it the Big Mac Daddy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 05:30 PM (EoRCO)

201 Question: Anyone know if there's a difference between a frittata and a crustless quiche?
Posted by: jix at August 19, 2018 05:26 PM

Frittata starts cooking on the stovetop in a frying pan then transferred to oven. Quiche goes into the oven "raw" as it were, in a pie plate, crustless or not.

I don't like pie crust so I love to make crustless sweet or savory pies or angel pies (meringue crust, kind of like a pavlova but no vinegar).

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 05:30 PM (2NqXo)

202 I wonder if all the meds he takes is taking a toll on his immune system?
--

Jewell, almost certainly contributing.
Prescription meds almost always take a toll on the body because of side-effects.
Is he eating enough meat to get healthy?

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 19, 2018 05:30 PM (CE6iV)

203 Forgot My Nic, yup!

Hairyback Guy: sounds tasty. I would love to also see McD's offer the Bacon Mac.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:31 PM (km8m2)

204 A Bacon Big Mac, made with the new fresh McD's beef, would taste incredible, I'd bet.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 05:33 PM (km8m2)

205 Jix...
Quiche has cream in it and most of its cooking is in an oven. Crust or no crust

Frittata more resembles a omelette but always served flat. No cream.

Consider all the variatins of omelette, spanish tortillas and quiche cousins but usually by marriage...or something

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 05:33 PM (5edY6)

206 Oh, a bacon Mac. Be still my heart. Broke down and got a subway Sammy for lunch after lunch time errands. It was horrible.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 05:34 PM (pcnVL)

207 Jujubee said it better than i,...

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 05:34 PM (5edY6)

208 Votermom..well we try to eat healthy so I have cut back on the red meat. Although this brisket, which I just took out of the oven and TURNED OUT PERFECT!!! should help out!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 05:35 PM (dUJdY)

209 Aside from being a Russian ballet dancer, what is a pavlova?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 05:35 PM (AllCR)

210 Votermom.. any supplements he could take that may help? I hate to ask him to take another pill, poor guy already takes so many but if it helps he will take it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 05:36 PM (dUJdY)

211 Broke down and got a subway Sammy for lunch after lunch time errands. It was horrible.


I think it's the bread. I went on a Subway kick for a while and then it just made me sick. The ingredients were just ingredients so I concluded that the bread was trying to kill me.

I might not be wrong. They make a fetish out of fresh baked bread but it's factory bread that they ship to be bake-ready, so god knows what they do to it.

Also, I told alex this story and she said her late friend Lucy also thought the Subway bread was trying to kill her.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:37 PM (fuK7c)

212 I used to know Californians years ago who claimed to be vegetarians. They ate chicken and fish but but as long as they avoided that icky beef and pork they assumed the mantle of superiority.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 05:37 PM (2NqXo)

213 Bander, that was the worst part. I miss the old white bread and when they used to cut a V in it. I would just pull out the V.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 05:38 PM (pcnVL)

214 I was going to smoke a pork shoulder once, but I was unable to find a wrapper paper large enough.

Plus it was very difficult to light.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:39 PM (++G28)

215
That quiche looks like something my grandmother made at Easter. Pizza Chena. the filling was egg, ham and sausage. It was insanely good and sadly no one else made it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 05:39 PM (SiINZ)

216 A long time ago I knew a family and their kids (no pun intended) were all allergic to cow's milk and cheese. Fortunately, they had some land. The children weren't allergic to goat milk. So the parents started a small herd of dairy goats. Problem solved. No demands on others, just finding a solution to a problem. Word got out and I think they even made a few dollars on their excess. I admired their resourcefulness then and even more these days thinking about them.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 05:39 PM (V+03K)

217 "Evidence based medicine" has been all the rage for a while now. It does lend some efficiencies to treating commonly occurring conditions, but slavish devotion to it creates problems by discounting more idiosyncratic presentations.
Posted by: Insomniac


"Evidence based medicine" means "look it up on WebMD", right?

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (P1f+c)

218 About once a year I'd say to myself, self, remember how you really liked those Whoppers at Burger King? And myself would say Yeah! and fail to mention that they don't make them the same any more and that each annual experiment ends in regret, disaster, and uncomfortable bathroom experiences.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 05:27 PM


I was at a Wegmans recently. They have a restaurant attached to them that seems to want to appear upscale. I picked up their menu and shoved it into my pocket. Last night I looked at it.

Their 'signature' meal seems to be a hamburger that they proudly announce as being 'irradiated meat'.

Yeah, I have a unit in my own home that irradiates meat. It's called a fvcking microwave oven.

The difference being, I know how to put a slab of burger meat between two containers, add some water and sauce, nuke it, flip it, drain it, add cheese, and end up with something pretty close to edible.

Close. But no cigar. Certainly not worth twelve bucks.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (LOgQ4)

219 Gah, I hope I have charcoal.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (pcnVL)

220 34
I was in the market yesterday and I noticed a can of mushrooms marked "gluten-free"
Are there actually mushrooms with gluten ?
... or can I expect "gluten-free" tomatoes next ?

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My wife and son are celiacs, and we've found that the vast majority of products on the shelf have gluten-based fillers. This includes soups, mixed-flavor seasonings, flavor packets. Anything that would use flour as a thickener. Even candy like Nerds and twizzlers have it.

Then you have products like Cheerios that advertise as GF and still are not (at least reliably so) due to cross-contamination within their facilities.
Then you have restaurants that provide a gluten free menu that is not prepared correctly.
Celiacs cannot have even have a little gluten. Microscopic amounts still destroy the digestive system's ability to work correctly. So food labeling is vital, yet often inadequate. And restaurant staff would do well to learn a few more things about food allergies too.




Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (ToAbj)

221 Something else that is different than what I remember.

Little Caesars Pizza.

I remember it being garbage pizza 30 years ago. Well, I just had one and while not haute cuisine it...was not bad. Huh.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (++G28)

222 In the hierarchy of victim-groups, "Muslim" has just trumped "rape victim":

https://apnews.com/aabbd7fac25c4145
8fe026fd1730c79d/ Doctor-convicted-of-
sexual-assault-of-patient-gets-probation

"A former Houston doctor convicted of sexually assaulting a patient while she was tethered to machines and receiving treatment for asthma won't serve any prison time and will instead serve 10 years' probation.

The punishment has surprised defense attorneys, disappointed law enforcement and raised concerns from a victims advocacy group, the Houston Chronicle reported . The victim said through a former attorney that she had no comment and wanted to put it all behind her.

Dr. Shafeeq Sheikh was sentenced Friday, a day after a Harris County jury of five women and seven men found him guilty after 14 hours of deliberations. "

Posted by: zombie at August 19, 2018 05:41 PM (c+2jX)

223 Comedy act make SJW snowflake heads explode:

https://apnews.com/d065e7d98cb04d358
0bbcddaedf63c53/ Comedian-Andy-Gross-
stirs-outrage-at-Purdue-University

Humor not allowed.

Posted by: zombie at August 19, 2018 05:42 PM (c+2jX)

224 Nothing more maddening than reading Yelp and seeing jerkoffs complain about the lack of glutton free options at an Irish pub. GTFO with that and don't undermine Yelp reviews with you weird cult.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 19, 2018 05:42 PM (7PllL)

225 I used to know Californians years ago who claimed to be vegetarians. They ate chicken and fish but but as long as they avoided that icky beef and pork they assumed the mantle of superiority.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey


I knew a (real) vegetarian who hated people like that.

"You just won't eat anything cute".

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 05:42 PM (P1f+c)

226

224 Nothing more maddening than reading Yelp and seeing jerkoffs complain about the lack of glutton free options at an Irish pub. GTFO with that and don't undermine Yelp reviews with you weird cult.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 19, 2018 05:42 PM (7PllL)
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The downside to social media is that people feel compelled to use it.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:43 PM (MVjcR)

227 Just finish another successful dinner grilling chicken. For some reason my relatives can't grill meat without ruining the meal. The concept of timing the grilling of the meat is foreign to them.
Last week, an in-law ruined some expensive porterhouse steaks.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 19, 2018 05:44 PM (v1udk)

228 Forgot My Nic, yeah I tried the Wegmans burger bar. It is a bistro burger place, and bistro burgers are a fad that needs to die.

Our local one features a maple bacon burger. Meh. If you want to know the prowess of your local burger place, or any restaurant in general really, order something that is not all fancified up. I tried the Wegmans regular burger and was very underwhelmed.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:44 PM (++G28)

229 I agree that some people are genuinely allergic to
certain foods. But I suspect it's rare, otherwise there'd be a lot more
serious illness and death. If you diagrammed the overlap of people with
kids who are "allergic" to various foods with parents who don't believe
in childhood vaccines but do believe in homeopathic remedies, my guess
is that the overlap would be large.
Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls
+++Like two of my granddaughters for example?

I seem to remember I was blistered here for stating I fed them real food when they stay at Papa's. Those little shits can keep a secret, I'll give them that.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 05:46 PM (9rIkM)

230

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Yeah, this gets me too. A woman with a daughter with such food
allergies tried to get everything her little angel was allergic to
banned at my daughter's elementary school, instead of sending her with
her own food.



A group of us got together and said "lawsuit" to the Principal. The woman's daughter transferred schools a week later.

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My celiac son feels great when the class throws a pizza party with cookies, and he has to bring his own boring food. He loves feeling left out. And jealous. He also loves going to summer camp where every meal that he eats is what we brought for him to eat, because the staff won't prepare anything for him. He loves the questions and teasing from the other kids.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:46 PM (ToAbj)

231 Some may want to control the school administration. Others of us just want consideration and not be entirely blown off.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:47 PM (ToAbj)

232 (222) My standard answer is, and will remain: Throw him in the water, let him swim home.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 05:47 PM (RuIsu)

233 My celiac son feels great when the class throws a pizza party with cookies, and he has to bring his own boring food. He loves feeling left out. And jealous.


What do you suggest?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at August 19, 2018 05:48 PM (fuK7c)

234 KT sent a picture for the garden thread, will be from blackpowder

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 05:48 PM (lxZ71)

235 I knew a (real) vegetarian who hated people like that.

"You just won't eat anything cute".
Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 05:42 PM (P1f+c)


I won't eat any meat that isn't cute. Not because I'm some tough carnivorous type, but because if it isn't cute then it probably looks like a huge bug or a wad of snot in a shell or something like that. Eew. Icky.

Lambs are adorable, which is why they're tasty. No lamb ever waved antennas at me and tried to scuttle away on chitinous legs.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 05:49 PM (y87Qq)

236 Rex, that is not a great situation for your son. It sucks.

Is there a good solution? I mean, all I can think is to stop all pizza parties and such, but that has problems of its own, I think.



Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:50 PM (++G28)

237 yeah I tried the Wegmans burger bar. It is a bistro burger place, and bistro burgers are a fad that needs to die.

Our local one features a maple bacon burger. Meh. If you want to know the prowess of your local burger place, or any restaurant in general really, order something that is not all fancified up. I tried the Wegmans regular burger and was very underwhelmed.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:44 PM[i/]


I mean, I'm sorry to disappoint a 'bistro burger' place, but admitting that you use a microwave oven to cook hamburger is like admitting you go to a 'family picnic' to meet girls.

They both give me the heebie-jeebies... or the willies. Something not good, that's for sure.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 05:51 PM (LOgQ4)

238 Then you have products like Cheerios that advertise as GF and still are not (at least reliably so) due to cross-contamination within their facilities.





Yep. I could not eat oatmeal and couldn't understand it bcz it was supposedly okay. The cause was cross contamination. Only reason I know that is bcz Quaker Oats now makes one without the cross contamination issue. I'm pretty happy to be able to eat oatmeal after a lifetime of being sick everytime I tried.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 05:52 PM (WEFox)

239 I should add that I get the summer camp thing. I was recently leading a Cub Scout Pack at camp and we had a vegetarian (religious based) Scout. He was getting teased by another Scout from a different Pack and I had to reprimand him rather publicly (I had him recite the Scout Law and talk about what it means to be reverent).

Again, it sucks for your son to be in a situation like that.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 05:53 PM (++G28)

240
I love how some parents create 'special snowflake' kids who they won't allow to play outside in the dirt and disease then bitch when the rest of the world won't conform to their lack of immunity.

It breaks my heart.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (LOgQ4)

241 199, 201, 205: Thanks people! Now I know. My Italian family may excommunicate me for not knowing the difference. No cream makes sense because most of Italy seems to abhor cream with the exception of the northerners.

Posted by: jix at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (Xx3z8)

242 So quick refresh
Had from garden 1 Anaheim pepper, 1/4 tomato, 3 sweet basil, 2 sprigs Greek oregano and few slices of hot pepper, combined in frying pan onion slices and 1/4 sweet bell pepper, chopped up ham and pepperoni together played on a rolled out pizza dough. Placed sauteed veggies on top then 2 white cheese types, ( usually like provolone and mozzarella but don't have them today) rolled up dough into closed off tube and with a peal put into a 425 degree pizza stone in oven. Maybe 35 minutes

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (lxZ71)

243 In the last years of his life my dad developed a severe gluten intolerance. It was so bad that he had to check what the pharmaceutical companies were using as binding agents (gluten is apparently a popular choice) in the medicine he took.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (Ze5Wq)

244 I know you didnt mean to ruin my apetite Zombie...

In houston no less.

There will be a reckoning...soon!

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (5edY6)

245 I'm pretty happy to be able to eat oatmeal after a lifetime of being sick everytime I tried.
Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 05:52 PM (WEFox)


That's super cool for you, but I'm sorry that it doesn't make oatmeal any less oatmeal. Oatmeal is not really a good reward, on balance.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (y87Qq)

246 What would I suggest?

From the school administration, you can celebrate a class thing in other ways besides with food. Like a field trip or going to some jump-zone place. But if it's going to be food, there's chic fil a (Fr fries grilled chicken is GF), or burgers (sans bun), or hot dogs, etc. If you gotta have pizza, then buy some frozen GF pizzas at the grocery and have the school kitchen warm them up.

From all the jerks here, a little empathy. Imagine your wife wakes up one day in her 30s and now can't eat anything (except Salads) in 90% of the restaurants you go to.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (ToAbj)

247 Lambs are adorable, which is why they're tasty. No lamb ever waved antennas at me and tried to scuttle away on chitinous legs.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 05:49 PM (y87Qq)

*waves antennae at Hogmartin*

*scuttles away on chitinous legs*

Posted by: Nuclear Mutant Lamb of the Future at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (AcZtS)

248 Hogmartin, I don't share your aversion to shellfish etc., but I totally understand it. A lot of what we eat out of the ocean really don't seem much different than big insects. I'm surprised that it does not turn off more people than it does.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 05:59 PM (H5knJ)

249 And a glass of Petite Syrah.

Hogmartin - What do you mean oatmeal isn't a good reward? Its good

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (lxZ71)

250 220---.....So food labeling is vital, yet often inadequate. And restaurant staff would do well to learn a few more things about food allergies too.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:40 PM (ToAbj)
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Yes to the food labeling. If they are going to mandate it at all, they should have high standards so that people like your wife and son can have more confidence.

But restaurants? Maybe they could stand improvement, especially as to honesty, but ..... at what point can they draw the line at accommodating every eccentricity?
I just don't know.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (0jtPF)

251 Dude. McCann's steel cut oatmeal. Cook it with butter, add some blueberries along the way. It can carry some vanilla extract if you want.

At the end of the day it's a platform for pure, lovely, godly, maple syrup.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (fuK7c)

252 Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 05:54 PM (lxZ71)

That sounds pretty good, especially since you didn't put beans and vodka on it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (sW7iu)

253 Jim Gaffigan has a whole stand-up bit about how God must feel so bewildered, when He gave us cows and chickens to eat, and we choose to go and eat the... crab and lobster.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:01 PM (km8m2)

254 That sounds pretty good, especially since you didn't put beans and vodka on it.

What about carrots?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:02 PM (y4EGh)

255
I have little empathy for trolling trolls who troll.

My kids scraped the cat scat off the sand box sand and enjoyed themselves.

There's some comedian who brags about his super-charged immune system because he spent his early years wallowing in dirt. As they say, 'Many a truth is told in jest.'

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:02 PM (LOgQ4)

256 Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (ToAbj)

People are jerks because they don't adjust to your personal needs?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 19, 2018 06:02 PM (2DOZq)

257 Dr Lectors Chicken Liver Mousse
(Adapted from Mastering the Art of French Cooking)

2 c. Dr Chiltons livers

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 19, 2018 06:03 PM (JFO2v)

258 Oh yeah posted a comment down on the dinosaur killing asteroid versus the volcano thread in case anyone still cares about it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:03 PM (y4EGh)

259 One thing I recently realized:

The one salad I truly like to eat, is Olive Garden's salad.

Anyway, I realized it shouldn't be hard to make at home. Lettuce, tomatoes, olives, onions, pepperoncini, caesar croutons. And here in SoCal, OG's dressing is available at the supermarket.

Anyway, I'm probably gonna end up having some for dinner tonight. Will let y'all know how it comes out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:03 PM (km8m2)

260 I was driving around and stopped in a random pizzeria to get something to eat, on the menu they had veal parm hero and an eggplant parm hero, I asked them for a veal and eggplant parm hero, the reacted as if I had asked them to undertake the Normandy landing.


I ended up just having a slice.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:04 PM (kT3/m)

261 I'm pretty happy to be able to eat oatmeal after a lifetime of being sick everytime I tried.
Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 05:52 PM (WEFox)

That's super cool for you, but I'm sorry that it doesn't make oatmeal any less oatmeal. Oatmeal is not really a good reward, on balance.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (y87Qq)


LOL
No, it isn't. But, it is great as something to fill me up. Since I hate going to the grocery store, it is awesome to have a pantry item that has an incredible shelf life. Also, it is great bcz it is so filling! If I want to lose some weight, it is a great tool for that.

I know some people can do the diets without carbs, but it is not my body. I could eat a whole roast chicken and still be hungry. However, a serving of oatmeal and I'm fine.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:04 PM (WEFox)

262 good price on the vodka

I pay about 26 bux for 1876.

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 19, 2018 06:04 PM (JFO2v)

263 qdpsteve need some help here.

There is this want that is bugging me to buy. Help me resist.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (y4EGh)

264 Or maybe only around 20 minutes

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (lxZ71)

265 Liverwurst on a sammich is OK if you kill it with enough mustard and onions. Other than that, liver is about the only mainstream food I refuse to eat.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (Ze5Wq)

266 A lot of what we eat out of the ocean really don't seem much different than big insects. I'm surprised that it does not turn off more people than it does.
Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 05:59 PM (H5knJ)


Yeah, I don't mind if someone's digging into a lobster at my table or something, but I'll go ahead and decline. It's not rational, because I like fish and eel, which aren't particularly personable animals, but at least you can look at it and say "that's a piece of meat". Maybe that's it. Raw oyster e.g. doesn't look like anything good.

Hogmartin - What do you mean oatmeal isn't a good reward? Its good
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (lxZ71)


Oatmeal is OK. I don't know if I'd call it "good". Some kinds are better than others, but it's still oatmeal. I was never bribed with the promise of oatmeal when I was little. I've never said the words "I get to eat oatmeal" in that order. I've never come downstairs thinking "I really hope there's oatmeal".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (y87Qq)

267 Anna, which want is it? Do you crave pizza? Burgers? Tacos? Something else?

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (km8m2)

268

There are no results for Site:acecomments.mu.nu (ToAbj)

New troll.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (LOgQ4)

269 Some of us will eat 'ANTHING' as long as it is properly prepared.....and cooking is not essential on some items

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 06:05 PM (5edY6)

270 Hogmartin, I don't understand your aversion to shellfish (of course, that may just be because I'm a surfperch). If you take a good long look at one, you'll realize that they exist solely to be eaten and don't seem that gross when you keep that in mind.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (AcZtS)

271 Food is a need. This is just a geegaw want.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (y4EGh)

272 Kasha > oatmeal

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (fA1SL)

273 I like Oatmeal generally, but I've always been especially partial to Cream of Wheat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:07 PM (km8m2)

274 I'm also reasonably certain several Horde members have tried to turn their Malt-O-Meal into beer... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:07 PM (km8m2)

275 Demanding that everyone else change everything to accommodate your specific needs or wants is not a reasonable position.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:08 PM (NWiLs)

276 Latest triumph of SMR engineering:
Vodka-cooled PC.

https://youtu.be/IYTJfLyo_vE

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:08 PM (fA1SL)

277
I always enjoy restaurants where 90% of the food I can't eat. It makes dining out such a special occasion.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:09 PM (LOgQ4)

278 Also, keep in mind, approximately 1% of the population has celiac disease. 1 in a 100. 3 to 4 million in America. It's not such a rare thing.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ToAbj)

279 271 Food is a need. This is just a geegaw want.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (y4EGh)

A mere geegaw? Skip it. Now if it were a gimcrack, we'd have something to talk about.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

280 Dude. McCann's steel cut oatmeal. Cook it with butter, add some blueberries along the way. It can carry some vanilla extract if you want.
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at August 19, 2018 06:00 PM (fuK7c)


I've had it, and it's one of the better ones, but meh. Still oatmeal.

272 is right, I'd rather have kasha with butter and onion than oatmeal for breakfast.

If you take a good long look at one, you'll realize that they exist solely to be eaten and don't seem that gross when you keep that in mind.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (AcZtS)


If I take a good long look at shellfish I'll throw up a little in the back of my throat and then also in my lap and probably all over my shoes and a bit on the couch and some on the cats if they're too stupid to get out of the way (they're too stupid to get out of the way).

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:10 PM (y87Qq)

281 A vegan, a crossfit enthusiast, and an atheist walk into a bar. They see a celiac-awareness activist, and walk the fuck out, because even they can't take his endless bullshit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (fA1SL)

282 Gimcrack corn and I don't care.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (y4EGh)

283 256
Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:58 PM (ToAbj)



People are jerks because they don't adjust to your personal needs?

---
The ones who call me a narcissist, and to shut up, because my family is celiac are the jerks.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (ToAbj)

284 Kasha > oatmeal
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:06 PM (fA1SL)




Yes, but my body rejects it. However, I have some weird-ass genetic anomaly. My body and I war over things constantly. Some things I just break out in hives. So I may eat it anyway. Other things...not worth being sick all day, or for a few days. It just depends what I think I can get away with.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (WEFox)

285 Italian sausage sandwich on a nice bun, dipped in juice with red sauce and giardinaira and hand cut fries so greasy the bag is soaked in oil by the time you get it home. No one lives forever.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 06:12 PM (K22Va)

286 Oatmeal a a great carrier for many slabs of melting butter and spoonfuls of refined sugar. refined sugar

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:12 PM (dEFp1)

287 286 Oatmeal a a great carrier for many slabs of melting butter and spoonfuls of refined sugar. refined sugar
Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:12 PM (dEFp1)

Brown sugar. Accept no substitute.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)

288 That's ok. I'll eat your shellfish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:13 PM (fuK7c)

289 If some strange genetic quirk defines one's whole identity one might have a problem. Yeah I am looking you deaf activists who attack deaf people for going through surgery to hear.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (y4EGh)

290
I think 100% of the 1% population should stay the hell home and make their own meals instead of torturing the wait-staff at restaurants.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (LOgQ4)

291 I have empathy for people with special dietary needs (none for wants), but I'm not going to order the world around them. 1 in 100 is one percent of the population; sorry, you're problem to navigate in life, just like I'm not going to arrange bathrooms around folks who don't fit into traditionsl categories. I'm below average height; I imagine this is true of certain demographics in general (certain southeast asians). I sometimes have to climb shelves to get what I want at the store. It's never occurred to me to demand that stores be reordered for my deficiencies.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (H5knJ)

292 Wait what? Shellfish going to waste?

Nyah???

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (y4EGh)

293 Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ToAbj)

Approximately 0.7% display the immunologocal.markers for celiac disease, but not all display symptoms.

I am sympathetic to people with significant food allergies, but the question, which has been asked above, is: why is it my problem?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (sW7iu)

294 That's ok. I'll eat your shellfish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:13 PM (fuK7c)


That's a bit forward, but sure, why not.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:15 PM (y87Qq)

295 I am sympathetic to people with significant food allergies, but the question, which has been asked above, is: why is it my problem?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM (sW7iu)

Because this shotgun says so.

Posted by: Handicapper General Diana Moon Glampers at August 19, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)

296 I was driving around and stopped in a random pizzeria to get something to eat, on the menu they had veal parm hero and an eggplant parm hero, I asked them for a veal and eggplant parm hero, the reacted as if I had asked them to undertake the Normandy landing.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:04 PM (kT3/m)

===

Anyone Mixing eggplant and veal parm must spend a night in the Box.

Everyone knows this is just not done.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 06:16 PM (EZebt)

297 Posted by: Handicapper General Diana Moon Glampers at August 19, 2018 06:15 PM

Great nic. I doubt 'Rex' recognizes it.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (LOgQ4)

298 281 A vegan, a crossfit enthusiast, and an atheist walk into a bar. They see a celiac-awareness activist, and walk the fuck out, because even they can't take his endless bullshit.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (fA1SL)

You have described one of my brothers to a tee.
He has been banned from familiy functions forever. True

The lib black sheep .

Posted by: Loneranger at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (5edY6)

299 I've been eating a combo of buckwheat groats, burger wheat and lentils made in vegetable stock for breakfast, with a little bit of ham cubes.


If you get the ratios correct it's sort of a porridge consistency if you get them wrong it's soup, which is still good.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (kT3/m)

300 You know what is a real problem?

The 1930 population of the United States now lives along the entire US shoreline.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (y4EGh)

301 296. I just assumed it was a misplaced 'Truth or Consequences' post from earlier.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (fA1SL)

302 281 A vegan, a crossfit enthusiast, and an atheist walk into a bar. They see a celiac-awareness activist, and walk the fuck out, because even they can't take his endless bullshit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


Well there just went a mouthful of beer on my screen.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (Dhht7)

303 If I take a good long look at shellfish I'll throw up a little in the back of my throat and then also in my lap and probably all over my shoes and a bit on the couch and some on the cats if they're too stupid to get out of the way (they're too stupid to get out of the way).
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:10 PM (y87Qq)


Yes, but isn't that true of a lot of food? I love lobster and crab and shrimp and calamari. I also loved when I knew nothing about them, bcz knowing kinda put a damper on things. Same with meat though, I can't moon over cows and buffalos and chickens or I'd never eat them.

I'd have to live on gluten free oatmeal! The horror!

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (WEFox)

304 I've been eating a combo of buckwheat groats, burger wheat and lentils made in vegetable stock for breakfast, with a little bit of ham cubes.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (kT3/m)


That sounds approximately f'n delicious.

What do you use for seasoning? Just salt from the ham?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:18 PM (y87Qq)

305 I've always liked oats, cereal, cookies, you name it. But once I learned about steel cut oats (thanks to Alton Brown) I was in heaven. Takes about 30 minutes to cook but I make enough for several meals. Mix in some berries or unsweetened stewed fruit and a dollop of cream for a great breakfast. The carbs are high for the amount but the nutritional value is very high. Don't forget the fresh perked coffee.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 06:18 PM (V+03K)

306 299 I've been eating a combo of buckwheat groats, burger wheat and lentils made in vegetable stock for breakfast, with a little bit of ham cubes.

And spend the next eight hours on the toilet.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:19 PM (NWiLs)

307 And spend the next eight hours on the toilet.

But boy howdy are you regular after that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:20 PM (y4EGh)

308 The 1930 population of the United States now lives along the entire US shoreline.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (y4EGh)


*perks up*
*fires up armored RV*
*racks shotgun*

I've never been more ready for anything in my entire life. Just promise you'll put one in my head if I get bitten. I won't turn into one of them.

Let's do this.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:21 PM (y87Qq)

309 I sometimes have to climb shelves to get what I want at the store. It's never occurred to me to demand that stores be reordered for my deficiencies.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 06:14 PM


If you see a tall woman of color nearby, protip: don't ask for her help.

Posted by: Baroque Obama at August 19, 2018 06:22 PM (LOgQ4)

310 Maybe it is my Great Plains origin, but I do not think shellfish are worth the effort to get them out of the bones and into my mouth. Imitation crab meat is easier and tastier.

Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2018 06:22 PM (VWE5i)

311 Wait, you never ate Liz Warrens Great Plains crab cakes?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:23 PM (y4EGh)

312 Bitten? By what? Gators or libs?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:23 PM (y4EGh)

313 Wait, you never ate Liz Warrens Great Plains crab cakes?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:23 PM (y4EGh)


"The secret ingredient is saltpeter!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:24 PM (km8m2)

314 That's super cool for you, but I'm sorry that it doesn't make oatmeal any less oatmeal. Oatmeal is not really a good reward, on balance.
Posted by: hogmartin

Much like French Toast. Oatmeal is great with maple syrup.

I'd do the winky emoji if I had any real computer skills.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 06:24 PM (kG2lj)

315 San FranPsycho, Is the Cand H sugar refinery still in Carquinez?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:25 PM (dEFp1)

316 * puts maple syrup on grocery list

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:25 PM (WEFox)

317 You know what is a real problem?

The 1930 population of the United States now lives along the entire US shoreline.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM


I was looking at the population of the current Russian population recently. Half of the USA. But considering how a huge percentage of our population is in the neon blue cities in this country, I have to give them a slight advantage.

Posted by: Baroque Obama at August 19, 2018 06:25 PM (LOgQ4)

318 @296

I can't help it I love it so.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (kT3/m)

319 Imitation crab meat is easier and tastier.
Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2018 06:22 PM (VWE5i)


What is that made of?

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (WEFox)

320 My celiac son feels great when the class throws a pizza party with cookies, and he has to bring his own boring food. He loves feeling left out. And jealous. He also loves going to summer camp where every meal that he eats is what we brought for him to eat, because the staff won't prepare anything for him. He loves the questions and teasing from the other kids.

Posted by: Rex at August 19, 2018 05:46 PM (ToAbj)

----------

So your solution for your son's very unfortunate situation is that everyone else adjust their diet to his?

Well, sure. I guess it's the only reasonable thing to do.

Bear in mind I was talking about daily meals at school, not special occasions.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (I16G8)

321 Yes, but isn't that true of a lot of food? I love lobster and crab and shrimp and calamari. I also loved when I knew nothing about them, bcz knowing kinda put a damper on things. Same with meat though, I can't moon over cows and buffalos and chickens or I'd never eat them.
Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:17 PM (WEFox)


Nah, two different things in my mind. Ordinary meat-flavored meats (steak, chicken wings, trout filets) are... I don't know what the word would be. Familiar maybe? I don't mind if an animal's cute. I just like to know that I'm eating something I wouldn't be afraid to pet.

If my first reaction would be to step on it or spray it with organophosphates, it's not food to my mind, it's vermin. Things that skitter away when you lift logs. Things that drop on your tent when you're camping. Things that are icky when you step on them barefoot.

Not trying to hijack or anything, btw, like I said I don't freak out if people suck crayfish heads at the same table as me, I just can't make the connection that they're anything but nasty.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (y87Qq)

322 317. Almost no Aztecs or Mayans there, so....definitely, Advantage: SMR

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (fA1SL)

323 What is that made of?

Cod fish that identifies itself as crab.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:27 PM (y4EGh)

324 Hey Kids What Time Is It?

Martini Time!!!!!!!!!

One olive please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 06:27 PM (EoRCO)

325 What is that made of?
Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:26 PM (WEFox)


Imitation crabmeat = surimi = mostly pollock. It's like fish hot dog.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:28 PM (y87Qq)

326 Anna: mmm, trans fish! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:28 PM (km8m2)

327 @304

Just cracked pepper.

The ham delivers the salt

Takes a little over 15 minutes to make.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2018 06:28 PM (kT3/m)

328 That was the ultimate perfection of sweet but hotness.
And I can't believe I ate the whole thing.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:29 PM (lxZ71)

329 327. Pro tip: Dollop of sour cream in the bowl.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:29 PM (fA1SL)

330 Bitten? By what? Gators or libs?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:23 PM (y4EGh)


*lowers shotgun*

So... not all of the actual people who were around in 1930?

*kicks dirt*

OK.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:29 PM (y87Qq)

331 Maple syrup is good on bacon.

http://tinyurl.com/od3ebfz

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 06:30 PM (K22Va)

332 My first lobster was in Dover, DE. I have hit handballs that were less rubbery and likely tasted better. I understand that is not how lobster should be, but it was one and done for me.

Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2018 06:30 PM (VWE5i)

333 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 06:27 PM (EoRCO)

grandma always had two, so I could have one.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 06:30 PM (pcnVL)

334 Rex my man, I think you are misreading some of the comments.

My wife is what I'll call a borderline celiac, with a pile of auto-immune illness stacked on top of that. When go out to eat, she picks from what will not make her sick. Simple as that. Doesn't beat on the staff or chef. She doesn't *suggest* a host/hostess alter their menu to reflect her limitations. But then again, sometimes she doesn't eat anything at a function.

For her, it's simply a matter of making the proper choices for her and not being annoyed that the rest of the world is different. It's just the way the (gluten free) cookie crumbles for her.

No one is poking fun at your fam because they have an illness.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 06:31 PM (9rIkM)

335 damn forgot the important ingredient from post 62 - Sausage!

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 06:31 PM (4MRvZ)

336 Regarding food safety, both Chipotle and McDonalds are looking at temperature monitoring systems. No idea the timescale they're looking at, but it's "being worked on".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 19, 2018 06:31 PM (BYLU3)

337 My biggest food rule is if I can't gut it I wont eat it. #Nopoopinmyfood.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 06:31 PM (kG2lj)

338 I used to get dad cold water Australian lobster. I never had it before. Damn it was good. Only kind he would ever eat.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 06:32 PM (pcnVL)

339 Oh yeah posted a comment down on the dinosaur killing asteroid versus the volcano thread in case anyone still cares about it.


Posted by: Anna Puma


Do I have to climb aboard the asteroid to read it ?

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 06:32 PM (kknE9)

340 So your solution for your son's very unfortunate situation is that everyone else adjust their diet to his?

Well, sure. I guess it's the only reasonable thing to do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor


In fact, we should expand this and be very inclusive.

List out all the possible medical reasons not to eat certain foods (peanut allergies, lactose intolerance, celiac disease, etc.)

List out all the other possible health reasons not to eat certain foods (low-carb, paleo, vegetarian, etc.)

List out all the moral and religious reasons not to eat certain foods (kosher, halal, vegan, etc.)

Now make sure that no public provider of food breaks any of the rules.

And please enjoy your water.

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 06:33 PM (P1f+c)

341 Imitation crab meat is easier and tastier.
Posted by: Downcast at August 19, 2018 06:22 PM (VWE5i)


What is that made of?



Pollack. It's called surini.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:33 PM (fuK7c)

342 I prefer maple syrup with breakfast sausage but bacon works fine.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:34 PM (lxZ71)

343 Pollack.


Posted by: Bandersnatch

Hey! Who you calling what?

Posted by: Tonypete-ski at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (9rIkM)

344
And please enjoy your water.
Posted by: mikeski


Is it Kosher water?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (IqV8l)

345 Bacon on a maple frosted donut is good.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (MVjcR)

346 My pussy hurts. Can you recommend a recipe that doesn't make my pussy hurt?

*wah*

Posted by: 300 lbs Slob at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (CdLX2)

347 I was using the 1930 census number to point out that over 100 million now live on the coastline. But in 1930 that was the total US population. No zombies involved.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (y4EGh)

348 And please enjoy your water.
Posted by: mikeski

In Flint you can't even drink the water.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 06:35 PM (kG2lj)

349 mikeski, that's bottled water.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:36 PM (dEFp1)

350 a friend of mine was losing a lot of weight, couldn't keep anything down. Went to ER in pain...turns out gluten intolerant. When we shared a beach house she brought her own food.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 06:36 PM (4MRvZ)

351 I understand that is not how lobster should be, but it was one and done for me.


Lobster don't live in Dover, DE. You might as well eat them in Kansas.

Eat lobster on the coast from Cape Cod north.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:36 PM (fuK7c)

352 * puts maple syrup on grocery list

Posted by: platypus,


You don't already have some ?

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM (kknE9)

353 Do I have to climb aboard the asteroid to read it ?

Nah, not giant asteroid sized. But pretty lengthy as I tried to condense about ten pages of Bakker's opinions with a bit of supplementary stuff from me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM (y4EGh)

354 342
I prefer maple syrup with breakfast sausage but bacon works fine.

Oh, that's good too, with runny egg yolks and crispy taters.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM (K22Va)

355 Some of the worst seafood I've ever had has been within sight of the ocean.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM (MVjcR)

356
Liberals -- who go out to dinner and think wait-staff should make $15.00 an hour, yet waste an hour of their time attempting to find something/anything their bodies will accept to eat.

The idea of 'Cognitive dissonance' hasn't yet been integrated into their feeble brains.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:38 PM (LOgQ4)

357 Bacons good on anything. I'd bet bacon and maple syrup on oatmeal would be good.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2018 06:38 PM (Dhht7)

358 I make my 5 minute oatmeal in milk with just raisins and cinnamon, sometimes a splash of vodka

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:39 PM (lxZ71)

359 Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2018 06:38 PM (Dhht7)
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We were visiting the Central Market in Lancaster, PA when I first saw the maple donut/bacon combo. It was really more of an eclair than a donut. Been a fan ever since.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (MVjcR)

360 I drink a lot of coffee and I take my cup out in the barn and set it down to do one thing or another. When I come back if there's a dead fly in it I just fish that sucker out and finish my coffee. Hasn't killed me yet.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (dEFp1)

361 I still have not forgiven one eatery, will not call it a restaurant, in Baltimore's Inner Harbor that served crawfish like lobster. They steamed the crawfish.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (y4EGh)

362 Some of the worst seafood I've ever had has been within sight of the ocean.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM (MVjcR)


That makes sense, I guess. Isn't everything that's caught offshore flash frozen anyway? So as long as it stays that way and it's only a few days old, something like swordfish or halibut would be the same inland as it would at the dock.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (y87Qq)

363 Nice summertime cocktail ahoy!


Sunshine

2 oz white rum*

1 oz pineapple juice

1/2 oz dry vermouth**

splash of grenadine

Shake with ice. Strain into cocktail glass Drink!


*Very simple cocktail so it's best to use a white rum with lots of flava:

First choice - Bank's 5 Island Rum - pure rum joy in a bottle. Your tongue will explode from happiness.

Second choice - Bayou Silver - pure sugary, marshmallow, vanilla-y goodness. It will make your tonsils shiver.

**La Quintinye Vermouth Royal Blanc is good for this and all your other vermouth needs, but use what you like.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (9q7Dl)

364 I make my 5 minute oatmeal in milk with just raisins and cinnamon, sometimes a splash of vodka
Posted by: Skip

You misspelled fifth.

Posted by: Hillary C. at August 19, 2018 06:41 PM (kG2lj)

365 Many moons ago I was in Boca Raton, Florida and there was a little bar by the railroad tracks off of Dixie Highway.

They had a "lobster night" which was a lobster at five dollars with corn and taters.

You could order all the lobster you wanted only after you ate the previous one and it was five dollars per bug but no extra veggies.

I must have ate 5 or 6 before I was done.

Good times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 06:42 PM (EoRCO)

366 OT, but I can't resist. Icky weirdo Kevin Spacey's movie tanked bigly this weekend, less than 300 bucks.


*Nelson Muntz laugh*


Easy dinner tonight. Grilled New York strips, baked taters and a bag of steamed veggies of some kind.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (EhZNT)

367 I like my bacon like I like my women...extra crispy. Have no idea what that means.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (EPnrI)

368 Flies. Yeah, you're going to ingest a certain amount of feces in life. Whatever a fly has on it has to be eithin tolerance or we'd have died long ago.

Gutting. I ordered a whole-fish dish in a Korean place once. That thing was filled with caca. I can't say I'll order that one again.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (H5knJ)

369 The last few weekends I've been trying to learn how to make a cheesesteak at home. I watched several YouTube videos, but this one was my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Z1VjyTQck

arieswoman suggested I check out a place called Sam's Italian Market for ingredients. I looked it up and it turned out to be very close to where I work. They sell top round steak that is sliced very thin, and also rolls that are made with high gluten flour. That is a key. You need a roll that can stand up to the filling.

The one I made yesterday was the best one yet. It took a few tries to get the proportions and technique right, and I think I'm getting the hang of it.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (sdi6R)

370 I drink a lot of coffee and I take my cup out in the barn and set it down to do one thing or another. When I come back if there's a dead fly in it I just fish that sucker out and finish my coffee. Hasn't killed me yet.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:40 PM (dEFp1)


Same, but I don't go to a nice restaurant and order fresh air-shipped live fly, have it boiled, crack it open, and eat it, then go on about "oh, how can you not LOVE EATING FLIES what is WRONG WITH YOU I mean you dip them in drawn butter and they're SO DELICIOUS". I just throw 'em away, because they aren't food.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (y87Qq)

371 Alternate headline; Millennials are pillow biters

Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.

http://trib.al/wBxB9cJ

Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (0Ntuf)

372 I see a frying pan in Cannibal Bob's future, one wielded by Heidi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (y4EGh)

373 As for seafood, it's one of those things I prefer to leave to the professionals.

Except fish and shrimp. I'm okay at those. But crab, lobster, mollusks, eh, rather not.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (EhZNT)

374 C and H building is still there, but I don't think they are in biz any more.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 19, 2018 06:46 PM (w7KSn)

375 >>I like my bacon like I like my women...extra crispy. Have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob



Considering your nic...?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 06:46 PM (W+vEI)

376 A similar to the above and classic cocktail from the 1920s or so-

Algonquin Cocktail

1 1/2 oz rye whiskey

3/4 pineapple juice

3/4 oz French vermouth (I like La Quintinye Vermouth Royal Blanc but use what you like)

You may or may not want to use a dash of orange bitters with this.

Shake with ice. Strain. Drink!

Classic cocktail for a reason....It's delish.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 06:46 PM (9q7Dl)

377 That makes sense, I guess. Isn't everything that's caught offshore flash frozen anyway? So as long as it stays that way and it's only a few days old, something like swordfish or halibut would be the same inland as it would at the dock.


Flash frozen, sure. Same everywhere.

Lobsters are sold live. Time in the pound changes their flavor. Even in a seaside town lobster from the pound are not as sweet as lobster you just pulled from your traps.

Oysters and clams are similar. You want to eat them as close to the source as possible. I know of chi-chi restaurants that serve oysters from the Pacific Northwest as if they're some sort of delicacy, to match the wine.

Yeah, no. They're oysters from 3,000 miles away. I'm sure that they're succulent in Portland.

Fresh ocean caught seafood is best near where it's caught. Previously frozen codfish these days is almost always Alaskan because New England ate all its cod, but it's not fresh.

I believe that Louisiana oysters are really good. I'll eat them in Louisiana some day.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:47 PM (fuK7c)

378 372. Yup.
Bob, for the love of God - after she hits ya, do the right thing. Sing out and slap hot iron to it. And have a maxipad on standby.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 06:47 PM (fA1SL)

379 372 I see a frying pan in Cannibal Bob's future, one wielded by Heidi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (y4EGh)

Lol...theres no need for her to know Anna. Pushes chocolate and flowers thru USB.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:47 PM (EPnrI)

380 rickl - practice makes perfect
Will check that place out when I get over that way, sooner or later

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:48 PM (lxZ71)

381 like my bacon like I like my women...extra crispy. Have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (EPnrI)

I like my women like I like my oatmeal. Nice and thick.

( heard a black guy say this)

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 19, 2018 06:48 PM (2DOZq)

382 >>Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.


Or they're going to the Tilted Kilt?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 06:48 PM (W+vEI)

383 Palp.....after 'the. Head incident'. I keep them handy. Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (EPnrI)

384 Alternate headline; Millennials are pillow biters

Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.

http://trib.al/wBxB9cJ

Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (0Ntuf)

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (AcZtS)

385 Alternate headline; Millennials are pillow biters

Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.

http://trib.al/wBxB9cJ

Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (0Ntuf)



I'm surprised that Hooters and other breastaurants haven't been considered hate crimes and closed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (SiINZ)

386 Found a pearl in an Apalachicola oyster once.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

387 My mom made an impossible pie with coconut in it. It was delicious and easy to do

Posted by: keena at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (f6S+V)

388 But crab, lobster, mollusks, eh, rather not.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (EhZNT)


I had a buddy from London who rented a room in my old house and would get drunk and start craving mussels. He'd get the frozen bags (the only fresh mussels you can get here are zebra mussels) with butter already in the bag, prepare them however you're supposed to, and sit there watching TV snacking on a big bowl of mussels, happy as a bivalve. Then, without fail, 6-12 hours after, he'd be in the downstairs bathroom groaning like death and firing jets of dirty dishwater from whatever orifice seemed most suitable at the time, for about four hours straight.

And then he'd do it all again a few weeks later.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (y87Qq)

389 >Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.


Or they're going to the Tilted Kilt?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 06:48 PM (W+vEI)

Twin Peaks has better food.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 19, 2018 06:50 PM (2DOZq)

390 Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs. ---


How can that be? I thought the love of boobs and ass was a hardwired male DNA thing.

Oh wait you can see all that at home for free on the internet. Probably a Hooters pics website.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 06:50 PM (kG2lj)

391 Some of the worst seafood I've ever had has been within sight of the ocean.


Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:37 PM

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Yep, got garbage seafood more than once in CT while dining where we could throw a rock and hit the ocean.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 19, 2018 06:50 PM (JUOKG)

392 Alternate headline; Millennials are pillow biters

Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.

http://trib.al/wBxB9cJ

Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (0Ntuf)

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I haven't been in a Hooters in several years, but the last time I was, the food sucked and the QC on hiring waitresses had seriously slipped.

Methinks they need to look inward.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 06:51 PM (I16G8)

393 And I believe the secret ingredient in Bisquick etc. is they contain hydrogenated oil (Crisco). Saving you from the mind numbingly simple task of cutting in the shortening. I would also bet there are dough conditioners in some form but too lazy to Bing it.

Posted by: mildycitusy at August 19, 2018 06:51 PM (UQFhP)

394 hogmartin. I love lobster and shrimp but I'm not a scallop fan and have already willed my lifetime quota of scallops to lin-duh and bluebell.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 06:51 PM (dEFp1)

395 As for seafood, it's one of those things I prefer to leave to the professionals.

Except fish and shrimp. I'm okay at those. But crab, lobster, mollusks, eh, rather not.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (EhZNT)

I gather that you're not from New England....

Posted by: KWDreaming at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (Ula5x)

396
I think coastal seafood has a certain rule... when the tourists are around it's kinda not so good... when they're gone it's great.

The wife and I hit the shore restaurants only while school is in session. Any time other then that, it's a crap shoot.

It's tough to get a great meal when the table next to you is spending an hour of the wait-staff time trying to weigh a dozen food allergies against the menu.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (LOgQ4)

397 Damn, I've got a whole cookbook of "Impossible" recipes. I've been making them for 25+ years. My son especially loved the Impossible Cheeseburger Pie and the Impossible Tuna Piewhen he was a kid. The leftovers keep well also.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (jm1YL)

398 Then, without fail, 6-12 hours after, he'd be in the downstairs bathroom
groaning like death and firing jets of dirty dishwater from whatever
orifice seemed most suitable at the time, for about four hours straight.


Could you be a bit more graphic and descriptive there... like describing the stereophonic sound effects generated by the interior void of the loo??? ;P

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (y4EGh)

399 372 I see a frying pan in Cannibal Bob's future, one wielded by Heidi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (y4EGh)

Heatin' up the iron, boss!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (NWiLs)

400 Could you be a bit more graphic and descriptive there... like describing the stereophonic sound effects generated by the interior void of the loo??? ;P
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (y4EGh)


I think the parts left out are best left out, thanks all the same.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (y87Qq)

401 Or they're going to the Tilted Kilt?



Posted by: Lizzy

Oh, the Titled Kilt. Where you go to work if you were too skanky to work at Hooters.

Posted by: Tonypete-ski at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (9rIkM)

402 I think coastal seafood has a certain rule... when the tourists are around it's kinda not so good... when they're gone it's great.


Popular Cape Cod bumper sticker: "If it's tourist season why can't we shoot them?"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (fuK7c)

403 >>>Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.


Honestly, it may be that millennials are more interested in more twitter/selfie/Instagram-friendly food. I've noticed that with the local station's Phantom Gourmet show - a lot of emphasis on presentation.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (W+vEI)

404 I'm surprised that Hooters and other breastaurants haven't been considered hate crimes and closed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (SiINZ)

I just fought that 'breast'areunts. And you're right. Some ugly dykes picketed it awhile back and there was some funny comments as some babes brought their own sins out.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (EPnrI)

405 And then he'd do it all again a few weeks later.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:49 PM (y87Qq)

Did he ever mention winkles?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 06:54 PM (EoRCO)

406 Fresh ocean caught seafood is best near where it's caught. Previously
frozen codfish these days is almost always Alaskan because New England
ate all its cod, but it's not fresh.

My brother just got back from vaca that way and said the cod is fished out. Is that true? The cod I get from Trader Joes is wild caught Alaskan or so the package says.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 06:54 PM (K22Va)

407 Alternate headline; Millennials are pillow biters



Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.



http://trib.al/wBxB9cJ



Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2018 06:44 PM (0Ntuf)



--------------



I haven't been in a Hooters in several years, but the last time I
was, the food sucked and the QC on hiring waitresses had seriously
slipped.



Methinks they need to look inward.


Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 06:51 PM

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The last time I was in one almost a year ago they had some smoked Memphis wings that were very good. IIRC that was a limited time item.


Tons of nice boobage though .

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 19, 2018 06:54 PM (JUOKG)

408 SIGNS! Not sins!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:55 PM (EPnrI)

409 Buffalo Wild Wings is better than Hooters IMHO.
And the waitresses at BWW won't be pissed off if you don't leave a $100 bill as a tip.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:55 PM (km8m2)

410 The Sins of Hooters Bewbers

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:55 PM (y4EGh)

411 My brother just got back from vaca that way and said the cod is fished out. Is that true?


Alas, yes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (fuK7c)

412 Did he ever mention winkles?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 06:54 PM (EoRCO)


Not that I recall, no.

I did grudgingly accept his premise that American tea is awful, after trying a cup of PG Tips. It's the only tea I buy now.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (y87Qq)

413 Or they're going to the Tilted Kilt?

Posted by: Lizzy

Oh, the Titled Kilt. Where you go to work if you were too skanky to work at Hooters.
Posted by: Tonypete-ski at August 19, 2018 06:53 PM (9rIkM)

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The Twin Peaks around here seem to get it right.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (I16G8)

414 Bisquick makes great dumplings. I'd doctor them a bit depending on what I was dropping them into but They always turned out light and fluffy.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (jm1YL)

415 Heatin' up the iron, boss!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 06:52 PM (NWiLs)

LMAO! Heidi says she in the bullpen warming up.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (EPnrI)

416 Use to be a Tilted Kilt in KoP but its gone, don't know if they moved, never been to one or a Hooters

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (lxZ71)

417 I was paired up with the sniper from the Cape Cod SWAT Team at a rifle course once. He said it was a pretty quiet place until a bunch of Katrina refugees were relocated there.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (MVjcR)

418 Here in Lakewood, it seems like every chain restaurant waitress at Chili's, BWW, Applebee's, Outback and Red Lobster, is a student at Cal State Long Beach nearby.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (km8m2)

419 My wife is what I'll call a borderline celiac, with a pile of auto-immune illness stacked on top of that. When go out to eat, she picks from what will not make her sick. Simple as that. Doesn't beat on the staff or chef. She doesn't *suggest* a host/hostess alter their menu to reflect her limitations. But then again, sometimes she doesn't eat anything at a function.

For her, it's simply a matter of making the proper choices for her and not being annoyed that the rest of the world is different. It's just the way the (gluten free) cookie crumbles for her.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 06:31 PM (9rIkM)




I do the same. I try and be sly so I don't have to tell anyone or explain it. I'll pile stuff on my plate and move it around so people will think I ate something when I haven't.

This is the hand I was dealt and I learned to deal with it. Yes, it sucks, but that's life. I don't expect others to conform...nor would I want them to. Hell, I don't even like admitting it.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (WEFox)

420 1 hour till Sharknado 6

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (SiINZ)

421 New Orleans Katrina refugees ruin everything. Look what they did to Houston.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 06:58 PM (y4EGh)

422 Remember a few weeks ago, the footage of the waitress who went Chuck Norris on a patron who grabbed her by the... uh... 'naughty bits'?

What was the consensus on her actions here? Justified? Unjustified?

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 06:58 PM (km8m2)

423 Not a millennial. But I have visited Hooters maybe 3 times in my life. If I want to pay to see boobs I go to a strip club. If I want chicken wings I go to Art Song's. Which I'm pretty sure closed many years ago.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 07:00 PM (6BjFc)

424 1 hour till Sharknado 6
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 06:57 PM (SiINZ)


Spoiler alert: in a tender heartbreaking scene at the animal hospital, the shark dies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:00 PM (km8m2)

425

Chance of blowing out the margins here, will be a squeaker. Veganism: https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2018/05/20

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM (CDGwz)

426 It is storming like a mofo right now.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM (NWiLs)

427 '' If I want chicken wings I go to Art Song's. Which I'm pretty sure closed many years ago.''

I'm probably in the minority but I just don't get chicken wings. Such a lot of work for such a tiny amount of meat.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM (jm1YL)

428 Remember a few weeks ago, the footage of the waitress who went Chuck Norris on a patron who grabbed her by the... uh... 'naughty bits'?

What was the consensus on her actions here? Justified? Unjustified?
Posted by: qdpsteve


There are two versions now was it the guy or the gal?

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 07:02 PM (6BjFc)

429 Tuna, that's why you order the nuggets or tenders instead.

Or do what I do at BWW, get the chicken ranch sandwich with Wild sauce, or a po'boy. Yum...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:02 PM (km8m2)

430 X-ray, the waitRESS who got grabbed. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:03 PM (km8m2)

431 I have a friend who's celiac. Here's the conversation with a waitress.
What's gluten free on the menu?
Are you gluten free by allergy or preference?
You think I eat this bullshit by preference?

Posted by: Regular joe at August 19, 2018 07:03 PM (7PllL)

432 ''Tuna, that's why you order the nuggets or tenders instead. ''

That I do.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:03 PM (jm1YL)

433 Fresh ocean caught seafood is best near where it's caught. Previously
frozen codfish these days is almost always Alaskan because New England
ate all its cod, but it's not fresh.

My brother just got back from vaca that way and said the cod is fished out. Is that true? The cod I get from Trader Joes is wild caught Alaskan or so the package says.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 06:54 PM (K22Va)

Most of the cod around here (RI) is coming from Norway...

Posted by: KWDreaming at August 19, 2018 07:03 PM (Ula5x)

434 I'm probably in the minority but I just don't get chicken wings. Such a lot of work for such a tiny amount of meat.
---
Tuna, I'm with you. Not only that, I can't get past the idea that we use to feed them to the pigs cause they weren't worth the trouble after butchering chickens.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:04 PM (9rIkM)

435 If I want to pay to see boobs I go to a strip club. If I want chicken wings I go to Art Song's.
Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 07:00 PM (6BjFc)


Concur. I've never been to one and don't really care to. Not a fan of paying to look at girls, not a fan of chicken wings.

Or shellfish. Or lobster. Or oatmeal. Pecan pie's good though.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 07:04 PM (y87Qq)

436 So food. Eating mostly bacon. An. Beef jerky these days. Homemade beef jerky. Bought one of them Big Easy dry fryers but its a 1000 degrees here so I'll wait till winter to try it. Now I'm drying apple slices for Heidi.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:04 PM (EPnrI)

437 Reposted from the morning thread:

177 A couple weekends ago I tried making bacon in the microwave. I had previously used the conventional oven. It took a little experimentation with cooking times, but eventually I was pleased with the result.

I used a dinner plate lined with paper towels, but I had to arrange the bacon so it wouldn't hang over the side. Friday night I went to Bed, Bath, & Beyond to see if I could find a rectangular tray the right size, and I found one for $10. The bacon sits atop ridges and the grease drips between them. I tried it yesterday and it works well.

Of course, everyone has their favorite way of cooking bacon, but I think I like the microwave best. It enables me to fine-tune the cooking time until it's perfect. And it doesn't burn. The first time I tried it, I cooked it too long and it was as dry and stiff as cardboard. But it wasn't burnt, and was still edible.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:05 PM (sdi6R)

438 Remember a few weeks ago, the footage of the
waitress who went Chuck Norris on a patron who grabbed her by the...
uh... 'naughty bits'?



What was the consensus on her actions here? Justified? Unjustified?

Posted by: qdpsteve

There are two versions now was it the guy or the gal?

Posted by: X-ray
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I thought only the ettes had pussys. Damn I am confused.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:05 PM (9rIkM)

439
Or shellfish. Or lobster. Or oatmeal. Pecan pie's good though.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 07:04 PM (y87Qq)
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I like pie too.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:05 PM (MVjcR)

440 426 It is storming like a mofo right now.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM (NWiLs)

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"'Twas a dark and stormy night. The stout little blog struggled to remain upright, but wave upon wave crashed over its pitiful superstructure, causing its topics to veer crazily between the wisdom of cooking one's own seafood to the fading quality of the rackage at Hooters."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (uSlc8)

441 I'm probably in the minority but I just don't get chicken wings. Such a lot of work for such a tiny amount of meat.
Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM (jm1YL)

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A place I used to hang out at on Friday evenings had free wings with a 3 drink minimum from 6-8. Price was right, and I got them to give me all drumsticks. All you could eat, too.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (I16G8)

442 If I want chicken wings I go to Art Song's. Which I'm pretty sure closed many years ago.''



I'm probably in the minority but I just don't get chicken wings. Such a lot of work for such a tiny amount of meat.


Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:01 PM

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It's the experience mostly. Sort of like eating blue crabs. You need a bucketful of them and 30-45 minutes to put a small pike of crab meat on the table.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (JUOKG)

443 I'm probably in the minority but I just don't get chicken wings. Such a lot of work for such a tiny amount of meat.

Me either, pricey too. Local grocery now sells chicken feet. Wtf does one do with chicken feet, pick your teeth with the toes?

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (K22Va)

444 not a fan of chicken wings.

Or shellfish. Or lobster. Or oatmeal. Pecan pie's good though.



You and I will have no conflicts in the camps.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 07:07 PM (fuK7c)

445 I don't get the chicken wing thing, other than at bars they gave them away

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:07 PM (lxZ71)

446 Chicken wings are chicken arms!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:07 PM (MVjcR)

447 I really like soft shell crab sandwiches.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:08 PM (EPnrI)

448 Wtf does one do with chicken feet, pick your teeth with the toes?
Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (K22Va)


Stock. Feet are for stock. I guess you can eat them as-is, but they're perfect for cooking down and discarding because it's all... collagen I think? Whatever gives chicken stock really good body.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 07:08 PM (y87Qq)

449 Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.

You know what you need...?


Posted by: Male NFL Dancers at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (x/2Z8)

450
So food. Eating mostly bacon. An. Beef jerky these days. Homemade
beef jerky. Bought one of them Big Easy dry fryers but its a 1000
degrees here so I'll wait till winter to try it. Now I'm drying apple
slices for Heidi.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:04 PM

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I make all of my jerky on my pellet smoker now. Hands down it is 100% better than dehydrated stuff. Got 5 smaller jerky trays that I can cram in that thing.


I have a 10 tray commercial dehydrator I bought years ago that can make 20+ pounds of jerky at a time that I haven't used in over two years sitting in the garage.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (JUOKG)

451 ''It's the experience mostly. Sort of like eating blue crabs. You need a bucketful of them and 30-45 minutes to put a small pike of crab meat on the table. ''

Too messy for me. Going through 20 napkins to get a mouthful of meat from chicken wings is not my thing.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (jm1YL)

452 >>I was paired up with the sniper from the Cape Cod SWAT Team at a rifle course once. He said it was a pretty quiet place until a bunch of Katrina refugees were relocated there.


Oh, geez, that is a bad place to relocate Katrina people. Did he say where - maybe Wareham?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (W+vEI)

453 Here's the gal version from Twitter for 428.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybpkstqx

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (6BjFc)

454 Me either, pricey too. Local grocery now sells chicken feet. Wtf does one do with chicken feet, pick your teeth with the toes?


Posted by: dartist

Ever been to an authentic Chinese restaurant? DO NOT get between an elderly Chinese woman and chicken feet. And somehow, they do it with chopsticks.

It's sorcery I tell you.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (9rIkM)

455 My dog won't even eat chicken feet.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (dEFp1)

456 367 I like my bacon like I like my women...extra crispy. Have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (EPnrI)

Uhhh...what's your nic again?

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (QE8X6)

457 Chicken wings are chicken arms!

So fly right into Weasel Farms !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (kknE9)

458 Stock. Feet are for stock. I guess you can eat them as-is, but they're perfect for cooking down and discarding because it's all... collagen I think? Whatever gives chicken stock really good body.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 07:08 PM (y87Qq)

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I think it is the bone marrow.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (I16G8)

459
Oh, geez, that is a bad place to relocate Katrina people. Did he say where - maybe Wareham?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (W+vEI)
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I can't remember exactly. He said they went from having very little drug related crime to pretty much nothing but drug related crime.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

460
447 I really like soft shell crab sandwiches.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:08 PM (EPnrI)


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You are an embarrassment to cannibalism.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:11 PM (uSlc8)

461 ''Wtf does one do with chicken feet, pick your teeth with the toes?
Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:06 PM (K22Va) ''

My son had a part time job at McDonalds when he was in high school and he was told that chicken nuggets was not just the white meat, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:12 PM (jm1YL)

462 457 Chicken wings are chicken arms!

So fly right into Weasel Farms !
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (kknE9)
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I think that needs to be my new motto.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

463 I have a 10 tray commercial dehydrator I bought years ago that can make 20+ pounds of jerky at a time that I haven't used in over two years sitting in the garage.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 19, 2018 07:09 PM (JUOKG

I dont seem to like smoked anything. Maybe ribs, but turkey? Tastes like ham. Salmon. Nope. Im not a fan of ham either so theres that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:12 PM (EPnrI)

464 Jewell, if you are still here...no supplements - honestly red meat is probably all he needs to heal (unless he is allergic to meat).

A lot of meat - around 2 pounds a day, at least. Don't need any other food.

Eliminates any possible sources of food intolerance, allergy, inflammation, resets your internal insulin/glucose meter, provides all the nutrients neede to rebuild da!aged organs.
(This advice is totally disavowed by the AMA; caveat eater)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 07:12 PM (CE6iV)

465 So I guess that nobody wanted to share what kind of food item a Pavlova is?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 07:12 PM (AllCR)

466 I also dont like barrbque sauce. Too smoky.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (EPnrI)

467 I think that needs to be my new motto.

Have it with my compliments !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (kknE9)

468 Having some soup I made in the slow cooker: chicken, cabbage, tomatoes, potatoes, celery tops and spices. Fantastic, if I may so myself

Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (Izzlo)

469
I mean I think I understand people with food issues. Sort of like I understand someone in front of me at the gas station arguing over the fact that ethanol free gasoline isn't available. For 15 minutes.

You want ethanol free gasoline? You do your homework and find where the stations are. They're out there.

Don't be an ass. It's that simple.

These days, 'not being an ass' doesn't seem to be an option.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (LOgQ4)

470 I like my bacon like I like my women...extra crispy. Have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 06:43 PM (EPnrI)

I like my coffee like I like my women. Vacuum sealed in cans.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (NWiLs)

471 The waitress in the photo is cute.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

472 467 I think that needs to be my new motto.

Have it with my compliments !
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (kknE9)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

473 The Twin Peaks around here seem to get it right.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 06:56 PM (I16G


The one here just reopened, but I haven't been back in yet. They had to shut down for awhile. . .a disgruntled former cook drove his car inside, jumped out with a gas can, spread fuel everywhere, and lit the place on fire. During business hours. IIRC there was an employee love triangle involved.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (yzxic)

474 Back in a bit, guys. Save me a bunk near Bander in the camps. I'll see if I can snag some crustaceans from the slop line.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (y87Qq)

475 Fenelon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlova_(food)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (km8m2)

476 >>So I guess that nobody wanted to share what kind of food item a Pavlova is?



It's a lovely meringue dessert!
I make a chocolate one for Easter, it's shaped in a ring and topped with fresh berries.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (W+vEI)

477 We must have skinny chickens around here, I can't see a spoonful of meat on 50 chicken feet combined. Stock I can see and they sell beef bones and suet now too. Everything but the lips.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (K22Va)

478 most of Italy seems to abhor cream with the exception of the northerners.

Who are actually German (well, Austrian) from the Tyrol. Which Italy got for breaking their non-aggression treaty with the Austro-HungarianEmpire in The Great War.

Posted by: Fox2! at August 19, 2018 07:14 PM (WqEER)

479 Bert G, sounds like an episode of Twin Peaks... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:15 PM (km8m2)

480 Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:10 PM (9rIkM)

Chicken feet are in our local supermarket. Spouse h running joke everything we pass them, "Shall we get some chicken feet?" I tell him that some April Fools Day I'm going to make up a mess of them and he will have to eat them all.

I have a friend who dated a Chinese guy. He thought chicken feet were gelatinous messes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 07:15 PM (AllCR)

481 I mean I think I understand people with food issues. Sort of like I understand someone in front of me at the gas station arguing over the fact that ethanol free gasoline isn't available. For 15 minutes.

You want ethanol free gasoline? You do your homework and find where the stations are. They're out there.

Don't be an ass. It's that simple.

These days, 'not being an ass' doesn't seem to be an option.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (LOgQ4)

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It is a downward race to the lowest common denominator.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:15 PM (I16G8)

482 I see some people wouldn't be fans of crawfish. To the uninitiated, it's a ton of work.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 19, 2018 07:16 PM (2DOZq)

483 Say, where did Rex go? (And don't say "over here")

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 07:16 PM (QE8X6)

484 Wings are what I call "Drunk Food".

You go to a watering hole, you drink some beers, eat some wings, watch what they have on the boob tube.

Not real food, just filling the gut while I catch a buzz and bad mouth the libs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 07:17 PM (EoRCO)

485 ''It's a lovely meringue dessert!
I make a chocolate one for Easter, it's shaped in a ring and topped with fresh berries.''

Meringue, lovely meringue. This reminds me that I haven't had lemon meringue pie in ages. Yummy.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 07:17 PM (jm1YL)

486 I like my coffee like I like my women. Vacuum sealed in cans.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (NWiLs

We must be brothers and I say that with great reservation.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:17 PM (EPnrI)

487 Fen - this is the one I make:

https://www.finecooking.com/recipe/chocolate- pavlova-with-tangerine-whipped-cream

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:18 PM (W+vEI)

488 I like my coffee like I like my women. Vacuum sealed in cans.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (NWiLs)

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My preference is freshly ground and kept in the freezer.

This one's for you, Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:18 PM (I16G8)

489 Wings are an excellent excuse, with martinis, for eating blue cheese dressing. But they should be banned in California because...napkins.

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 07:19 PM (QE8X6)

490 Thanks for the info on Pavlova dessert, everyone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (AllCR)

491 My preference is freshly ground and kept in the freezer.

This one's for you, Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:18 PM (I16G

Me likee. Thanks CM!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (EPnrI)

492 486 I like my coffee like I like my women. Vacuum sealed in cans.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:13 PM (NWiLs

We must be brothers and I say that with great reservation.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:17 PM (EPnrI)

You could so worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (NWiLs)

493 I like my coffee like I like my women: Aromas of rich dark currants, nectarine skins, gushing blackberry,
but lots of fragrant tobacco, rich soil, white flowers, smashed minerals
and metal.


Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (9rIkM)

494 459--- He said they went from having very little drug related crime to pretty much nothing but drug related crime.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:11 PM (MVjcR)
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Diversity!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (0jtPF)

495 *do* worse

Dammit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (NWiLs)

496 Rickl, I've been cooking bacon more often out on the gas Weber. Wife loves bacon, but doesn't care for smell in house. Been using a cookie sheet sometimes with cooling racks inserted, or not. About 15-18 mins turning half thru. Win-win.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (Dhht7)

497 o I guess that nobody wanted to share what kind of food item a Pavlova is?

If I remember correctly, it's kind of like lemon meringue pie, but without the pie. Mostly air. I didn't get it. Our Australian friends loved it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2018 07:21 PM (dVAq+)

498 Wings are an excellent excuse, with martinis, for eating blue cheese dressing.


Well, here is a fight worth having.

Do you alternate wings with carrots and celery dipped in bleu cheese or do you dip the wings in the blue cheese like some fucking heretic who doesn't know how to eat wings and should probably be kept in a closet with duct tape and cattle prods?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 07:21 PM (fuK7c)

499 Wife loves bacon, but doesn't care for smell in house.

??? Burn the heretic!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:22 PM (9rIkM)

500 >>I like my coffee like I like my women. Vacuum sealed in cans.

OK, I'll bite....

I like my coffee like I like my men: hot, sweet and ready to go first thing in the morning!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:22 PM (W+vEI)

501 I will have to say my tequila/lime wings are outstanding.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 07:23 PM (dEFp1)

502 We need a Sharknado thread.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 07:23 PM (J70i0)

503 Fresh ocean caught seafood is best near where it's caught. Previously
frozen codfish these days is almost always Alaskan because New England
ate all its cod, but it's not fresh.
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So...did you miss the ONT pic of the desert restaurant advertising lobster?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 07:24 PM (xSo9G)

504 >>Do you alternate wings with carrots and celery dipped in bleu cheese or do you dip the wings in the blue cheese like some fucking heretic who doesn't know how to eat wings and should probably be kept in a closet with duct tape and cattle prods?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 07:21 PM (fuK7c)

Why the latter. And don't overestimate your capacity to "fight." After all, this is a food thread.

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 07:24 PM (QE8X6)

505 496 Rickl, I've been cooking bacon more often out on the gas Weber. Wife loves bacon, but doesn't care for smell in house. Been using a cookie sheet sometimes with cooling racks inserted, or not. About 15-18 mins turning half thru. Win-win.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (Dhht7)


I don't have a grill, and was previously cooking it on a baking sheet lined with aluminum foil in the oven. But the microwave is faster, with less cleanup.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

506 Bandersnatch: I skip the veggies and dip my wings right into the blue cheese and/or ranch. Come git me!! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (km8m2)

507 Well, here is a fight worth having.

Do you alternate wings with carrots and celery dipped in bleu cheese or do you dip the wings in the blue cheese like some fucking heretic who doesn't know how to eat wings and should probably be kept in a closet with duct tape and cattle prods?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 07:21 PM (fuK7c)

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Ahem.....I believe this is what some of the more legal minded among us would tend to call a "leading question".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (I16G8)

508 ''It's a lovely meringue dessert!
I make a chocolate one for Easter, it's shaped in a ring and topped with fresh berries.''
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Cream of Tartar. It's an aluminum cleaner, and a desert topping!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (xSo9G)

509

Why have marble countertops become so ubiquitous?

Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?

Posted by: US Air Force at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (HkNlg)

510 You could so worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 07:20 PM (NWiLs)

I'm sure of that. Not only do I think we'd get along I have two younger and kinda whacky sisters. I still go to bed at night praying for brothers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (EPnrI)

511 Hey votermom, thanks for the info. I took a break to pig out on my amazing brisket! lol. I told him if he's not better by Tuesday he needs to see the doc. We need to try to figure this out. Could very well be diet.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (dUJdY)

512 Is licking the blue cheese bowl wrong?

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

513 Here's the Twin Peaks story I was talking about: https://tinyurl.com/y9n3mc9t

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (yzxic)

514 "I can go for months and months, and then BAM!... "


There she is...

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (0q4vG)

515 Wings are annoying if they're puny. Thankfully though, whenever I've fried my own, I've been fortunate enough to get Sprouts' drummettes, which are nice and meaty.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (km8m2)

516
That really chaps my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (HkNlg)

517 Weasel: if it is, I don't wanna be right!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:26 PM (km8m2)

518 >>Cream of Tartar. It's an aluminum cleaner, and a desert topping!


Srsly?

It's also a key ingredient in snickerdoodles!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:27 PM (W+vEI)

519 We need a Sharknado thread.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 07:23 PM (J70i0)

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Oh, Good Lord. No. No, we don't.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:27 PM (I16G8)

520 Here Soothsayer, take my ChapStick. No you don't need to return it. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:27 PM (km8m2)

521 I don't have a grill, and was previously cooking it on a baking sheet lined with aluminum foil in the oven. But the microwave is faster, with less cleanup.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

Use parchment paper instead of foil. You get a crispy bacon and faster.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:27 PM (EPnrI)

522 . Wife loves bacon, but doesn't care for smell in house.
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Another Pearls Before Swine comic:
https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2018/05/19

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 07:28 PM (CDGwz)

523 509

Why have marble countertops become so ubiquitous?

Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?

Posted by: US Air Force at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (HkNlg)


My house was built in 1956 and the kitchen still has the original Formica countertops with the boomerang squiggles. I wouldn't dream of replacing them. People pay good money for retro decor, and I have the real thing!

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:28 PM (sdi6R)

524 When choosing a nice Cream of Tartar, always look for a rich robust plaid appearance...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:28 PM (km8m2)

525

Prison inmates across the country are preparing to go on strike by refusing to eat or work, as a way to protest what they call 'prison slavery' and poor conditions.

Though the extent of the planned strike is not known, prisoners in at least 17 states say they will be taking part in coordinated action, which will begin on Tuesday and last through September 9.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (IqV8l)

526 Why have marble countertops become so ubiquitous?

Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?

Posted by: US Air Force at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (HkNlg)



We're so rich we can have anything we want.

I've a KitchenAid electric stove top. Not a scratch on it. I can't give it away.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (0q4vG)

527 Also, I've read Cream of Tartar goes great with a nice Cream of Nicotinenicotine.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (km8m2)

528 Why have marble countertops become so ubiquitous?

Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?


I think the technology to cut the marble has improved.

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (kknE9)

529
People pay good money for retro decor, and I have the real thing!

Ha!

But wow 60 year old countertops.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:31 PM (HkNlg)

530 Carnival food is not food.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4)

531 Looking for something to watch put on Sharkanado, what a waste of film

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:31 PM (lxZ71)

532 Prison inmates across the country are preparing to
go on strike by refusing to eat or work, as a way to protest what they
call 'prison slavery' and poor conditions.




Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (IqV8l)

Let 'em have at it, maybe it'll save us taxpayers some money in food costs.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:32 PM (yzxic)

533 Bacon nuked in Dead Sea Scrolls. mmmm 2000+ years of goodness.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 07:32 PM (RuIsu)

534 Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?

Posted by: US Air Force
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Mostly the $, and the tools to easily fit it, I expect. My grandmother had a marble-topped table in the kitchen that she used for making candy, and for floury things.

Our counter tops, btw, are still Formica.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 07:33 PM (CDGwz)

535 Carnival food is not food.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4)


You shut up! Now have some delicious fried cat chow!

Posted by: The Carny at August 19, 2018 07:33 PM (km8m2)

536 Prison inmates across the country are preparing to go on strike by refusing to eat or work, as a way to protest what they call 'prison slavery' and poor conditions.


They're gonna need a bigger box !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 07:33 PM (kknE9)

537
Oh good, now the Cuck-led Senate will have something to pass a resolution for: the poor treatment of prisoners.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:34 PM (HkNlg)

538 Mine are 53 yr old.

Posted by: Porosity at August 19, 2018 07:34 PM (0q4vG)

539 Why have marble countertops become so ubiquitous?

Did we have a shortage of marble and granite decades ago? Or was Formica so wonderful everyone loved it?

Posted by: US Air Force at August 19, 2018 07:25 PM (HkNlg)

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Fads like this seem to change every five years or so. This allows my whacked out sister an excuse to spend $50k or so to remodel her kitchen with each new iteration.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:34 PM (I16G8)

540 which will begin on Tuesday and last through September 9.

That sends a powerful message. "We're going to stamp our feet for a specific amount of time."

Ok, see you on the 10th.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2018 07:34 PM (n6bs1)

541 When homes in my neighborhood in Lakewood were being sold brand-new (1952-56), they featured full long stainless steel sinks and countertops.

Don't think many of those are still around...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (km8m2)

542 Also, I've read Cream of Tartar goes great with a nice Cream of Nicotinenicotine.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:30 PM (km8m2)

Huh. You mean I shouldn't have been putting Cream of Tartar on my Steak Tartare?

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (yzxic)

543
Oh good, now the Cuck-led Senate will have something to pass a resolution for: the poor treatment of prisoners.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:34 PM (HkNlg)
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Shouldn't we wait for bluebell's opinion on this?

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (Ze5Wq)

544
Yeah, I have formica counters. But when I do update the kitchen, I'll be going with marble or granite.

Thing is, the formica is in good shape.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (HkNlg)

545 Just heard on the news that becuse of Climate Change a big increase in Sharknados is expected.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:36 PM (EPnrI)

546 Granite counter tops are the best thing evah!

Nothing stains them. (so far)

You can put over hot pots on them to no effect.

They clean beautifully and instantly.

Live is just better with granite counter tops.

Easy, clean, virtually indestructible.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 07:36 PM (9q7Dl)

547 Doing construction for over 30 years I've seen lots of fads come and go.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (lxZ71)

548 529
But wow 60 year old countertops.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:31 PM (HkNlg)


I also have the original 60 year old gas range. The oven was replaced some time in the 1980s and uses electronic ignition, which I've had to have replaced twice.

But the range still uses pilot lights, so it works when the power is out. My power was out for three days after Hurricane Sandy, and I was able to heat up leftovers from the freezer. I never had to dip into my stockpile of canned food.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

549 When homes in my neighborhood in Lakewood were being sold brand-new (1952-56), they featured full long stainless steel sinks and countertops.

Don't think many of those are still around...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (km8m2)

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Don't sell anything. Harvest gold appliances are due for a big comeback.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (uSlc8)

550
Stainless steel countertops??

I'm a huge fan of stainless steel, but SS countertops in the home seem a bit...industrial.

But I'm warming to the idea..

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (HkNlg)

551 >>Prison inmates across the country are preparing to go on strike by refusing to eat or work, as a way to protest what they call 'prison slavery' and poor conditions.


Gosh, that sounds so ...coordinated. How do prisoners nationwide manage to organize themselves for a protest, one with racial overtones, just a few months before a crucial mid-term election?!?


The Left really pushing the race war angle to regain the House and Senate.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (W+vEI)

552 If I ever do a replacement it will be a drain board and not a counter top.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:38 PM (0q4vG)

553 I would rather starve than eat some kinda meat-on-a-stick from the Day-Glo shack next to Mr. Whizzer.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 07:38 PM (lwiT4)

554 Cicero and Sooth, yup. Supposedly stainless steel countertops were considered state-of-the-art in the 1950s.

The 1950s get a bad rep IMHO. People think everyone was afraid of communism and nuclear war, but there was also a lot of innovation going on.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (km8m2)

555 (523) Grey and Pink boomerangs? How many? I have 5,482.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (RuIsu)

556 Do you alternate wings with carrots and celery dipped in bleu cheese or do you dip the wings in the blue cheese like some fucking heretic who doesn't know how to eat wings and should probably be kept in a closet with duct tape and cattle prods?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 07:21 PM (fuK7c)

Always dip the wings in the blu cheese.

Anything else is an infamia.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (EoRCO)

557 Marble?!? Fvck that shit!! Form-I-Ca!!!

Posted by: Frank Booth at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (eKpPz)

558 554 Cicero and Sooth, yup. Supposedly stainless steel countertops were considered state-of-the-art in the 1950s.

The 1950s get a bad rep IMHO. People think everyone was afraid of communism and nuclear war, but there was also a lot of innovation going on.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (km8

Tang!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:40 PM (EPnrI)

559 The 1950s get a bad rep IMHO. People think everyone was afraid of communism and nuclear war, but there was also a lot of innovation going on.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (km8m2)

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Back then refrigerators were so well built they could save you from a nuclear blast.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:40 PM (uSlc8)

560 Gosh, that sounds so ...coordinated. How do prisoners nationwide manage to organize themselves for a protest, one with racial overtones, just a few months before a crucial mid-term election?!?

The Left really pushing the race war angle to regain the House and Senate.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (W+vEI)

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Yes, it is quite strange how incarcerated individuals with, theoretically, no access to a place to centrally organize could pull this off.

It is quite the conundrum.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 07:41 PM (I16G8)

561 553 I would rather starve than eat some kinda meat-on-a-stick from the Day-Glo shack next to Mr. Whizzer.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 07:38 PM (lwiT4)

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Mr. Whizzer and deep fried twinkies do not mix.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:41 PM (uh2Uo)

562 saw up above that someone (Voter Mom?) had a kid with minor shellfish allergies... so they still let her eat it.

i'd check with the docs, but that's likely NOT a good idea.

speaking from personal experience, allergies tend to get worse every time they are triggered.

also speaking from personal experience, neither of you want to go through an anaphylactic event.

they ARE exciting, but there is nothing fun about your body trying to kill you. i've been through 3.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 07:41 PM (s+Fdw)

563
Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead door?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:42 PM (HkNlg)

564 Oil will stain granite. Best way to ruing an expensive tombstone is WD40. I used to be in the tombstone business, not countertops. Having said that, I'd go with stainless steel if building new.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 07:42 PM (zLDYs)

565 Formica is a pimp. It could never have outfought Bakelite.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:42 PM (uSlc8)

566

Those fridge door handles were kinda lethal, tho. You stuff someone in your fridge, they ain't getting out.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (HkNlg)

567 When were terazzo floors a thing? I still see some in old apartment buildings.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (EPnrI)

568 The Left really pushing the race war angle to regain the House and Senate.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2018 07:37 PM (W+vEI)



At the rate they are losing the black population to Trump they will need to double their importation of plantation Latinos.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (0q4vG)

569 Tang!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:40 PM (EPnrI)



Foster Brooks - Every morning I have a glass of Tang just like the astronauts excepts I put prunes in mine. (audience laughs) What's the matter? Don't any of you guys like a little Prune Tang in the morning?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (SiINZ)

570 541 When homes in my neighborhood in Lakewood were being sold brand-new (1952-56), they featured full long stainless steel sinks and countertops.

Don't think many of those are still around...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:35 PM (km8m2)


That sounds like it was way ahead of its time. If it's good enough for restaurants, it's good enough for home use.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

571 I am offended by this post and I shall then sue.

yes garçon ... another would be great, thanks

Posted by: Valu rite at August 19, 2018 07:44 PM (LB9RI)

572 Bet with the large growing Muslim population in prisons it's getting hard for food service

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:44 PM (lxZ71)

573 Granite counter tops are the best thing evah!


Nothing stains them. (so far)


You can put over hot pots on them to no effect.


They clean beautifully and instantly.


Live is just better with granite counter tops.


Easy, clean, virtually indestructible.

Posted by: naturalfake
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All true of soapstone too except they are somewhat softer. I have soapstone counters and sinks. Grammy had it in the old homestead - getting on 80 years old now. Just gets better with age.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 07:44 PM (9rIkM)

574 Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead door?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:42 PM (HkNlg)



Or protect Indiana Jones from an atomic blast

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

575 Those fridge door handles were kinda lethal, tho. You stuff someone in your fridge, they ain't getting out.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (HkNlg)


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Much like the capacious trunk of a '55 Cadillac Eldorado.

Posted by: Tommy DeVito at August 19, 2018 07:45 PM (uSlc8)

576 rickl, yup!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 07:45 PM (km8m2)

577 A lot of dreams went up in smoke during the Form-I-Ca miner riots of '59. Those little boomerangs were never the same after that.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 07:45 PM (RuIsu)

578 The 1950s get a bad rep IMHO. People think everyone was afraid of
communism and nuclear war, but there was also a lot of innovation going
on.

After the war there was boom in manufacturing to make young house wives' lives easier using materials rationed during. Canned vegetables sucked.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:46 PM (K22Va)

579 Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (SiINZ)

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:46 PM (EPnrI)

580 Terrazzo mostly only gets ripped out, there are some modern equivalent, looks similar .

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:47 PM (lxZ71)

581 563
Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead door?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:42 PM (HkNlg)


When I was in college, we had an old refrigerator with a handle that was broken off.

But it still worked fine. We left it sitting on the top, and just held it in place and applied pressure to the button that opened the refrigerator.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

582
Anyone remember Cottages?

Back in the, what, post WWII, things were so good, people were buying Cottages as little vacation homes nearby their primary homes.

Remember that? Cottages. Of course, there needed to be a lake or a pond nearby...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:48 PM (HkNlg)

583 I got granite from Brazil in my kitchen. It emits so much radon that I didn't have to get the cat spayed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:48 PM (uSlc8)

584 they ARE exciting, but there is nothing fun about your body trying to kill you. i've been through 3.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2018 07:41 PM (s+Fdw)



Allergies are the opposite of bacteria which our bodies can build up an immunity to. We are born with or by the age of six we develop, - two theories - a cache of allergic resistance and as we go through life we use it up.

One may not be allergic to yellow jacket bites but if one is bit enough it will result in an allergic reaction.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:48 PM (0q4vG)

585 At the rate they are losing the black population to Trump they will need to double their importation of plantation Latinos.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (0q4vG)


Dems: "Our cotton plantation is doing so well, so for the sake of diversity we're expanding our operation with a banana plantation."

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:49 PM (yzxic)

586
So buying a Cottage were a thing to do.

The best thing about Cottages is you'd see all your old furniture there!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:49 PM (HkNlg)

587
That's where all our old fridges and couches would end up -- at the cottage.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:50 PM (HkNlg)

588 *isn't doing so well

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 07:51 PM (yzxic)

589 Terrazzo was used on a lot of supermarket floors for a while.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:51 PM (uSlc8)

590 Wire saws used for cutting granite run on sheaves mounted on towers few hundred yards apart and come back cooled off, then run in the cut with water and sand. sounds primitive, doesn't it? Well, it is.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 07:53 PM (zLDYs)

591 555 (523) Grey and Pink boomerangs? How many? I have 5,482.
Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 07:39 PM (RuIsu)


Mine are red, green, and blue. I haven't counted them.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 07:53 PM (sdi6R)

592 Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead door?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

We have a 50s propane fridge at the cabin with the big chrome handle, it broke. So it now has a semi truck hood latch like this one.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7vry7mc

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (6BjFc)

593 We started putting in Stonehard in grocery stores in late 80's

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (lxZ71)

594 Remember that? Cottages. Of course, there needed to be a lake or a pond nearby...

Our family still has it. Bought just before Pearl Harbor in 1941 near Janesville, WI for my oldest aunt who was thought to have tuberculosis. We still call it "The Cottage".

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (K22Va)

595
It's dark before 8pm. Nice.
Summer is ending.

I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (HkNlg)

596 Just saw the ending of 'The Day After' and a view of America from the space station. whoreyweird sure hates the old Confederacy, don't they? Cause it was under water.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 07:55 PM (zLDYs)

597 I wonder why they chose boomerangs to decorate Formica. Seems like an odd pick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:56 PM (uSlc8)

598 They're not boomerangs they are flying wings.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:57 PM (0q4vG)

599 597 I wonder why they chose boomerangs to decorate Formica. Seems like an odd pick.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:56 PM (uSlc
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Lawn Darts weren't invented yet?

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 07:58 PM (MVjcR)

600 Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (K22Va)

My aunt and uncle used to own a campground outside of Janesville, in Milton. Nice place. Had a lot of fun there.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at August 19, 2018 07:58 PM (C1NyB)

601 If you are not frying your french fries in beef tallow you are wasting you time.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 19, 2018 07:58 PM (3MaAt)

602 Had a question on Twitter - is anyone seeing an ad pretending to be a virus warning? I'm not seeing it, want to track it down if I can.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 19, 2018 07:58 PM (2yngH)

603 Sharknado!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 07:59 PM (9q7Dl)

604 601 If you are not frying your french fries in beef tallow you are wasting you time.
Posted by: tmitsss at August 19, 2018 07:58 PM (3MaAt)

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Didn't McDonalds get sued for that a few years ago by a disgruntled Indian vegan?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 08:00 PM (uSlc8)

605 Few years ago spent every day, all day outside in the worst winter I ever saw. I detest winter now.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:01 PM (lxZ71)

606 My aunt and uncle used to own a campground outside of Janesville, in Milton. Nice place. Had a lot of fun there.

That's where we are. You guys were on the river?

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:01 PM (K22Va)

607 Just saw the ending of 'The Day After' and a view of America from the space station. whoreyweird sure hates the old Confederacy, don't they? Cause it was under water.
Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 07:55 PM (zLDYs)

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Yeah, that is their wishcasting. They would be thrilled if this came to be, with the exception of necessary fact that if it were to become so, the West coast would then start around Arizona.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:02 PM (I16G8)

608 I hate winter. Work goes nuts, it's cold, and the days are too short.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:02 PM (MVjcR)

609 Sharknado!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 07:59 PM (9q7Dl)



Looks like they borrowed the special effects from Dr Who. Did he just slid down the dinosaur like Fred Flintstone?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:02 PM (SiINZ)

610 598 They're not boomerangs they are flying wings.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 07:57 PM (0q4vG)


OK. I choose to believe that.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

611 Terrazzo was used on a lot of supermarket floors for a while.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:51 PM (uSlc

And my high school. Built in 1967.

Posted by: golfman at August 19, 2018 08:03 PM (If3tB)

612 Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (K22Va)

No. Clear Lake. At the time, the place was called Blackhawk Campgrounds. They sold it many years ago. I haven't been up that way in probably 15 years or more. It might have been off 26?

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at August 19, 2018 08:03 PM (C1NyB)

613 me no likey winter

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 08:04 PM (CE6iV)

614 611 Terrazzo was used on a lot of supermarket floors for a while.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 07:51 PM (uSlc
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A buddy of mine lived in base housing on Patrick AFB. They had supermarket floors.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

615 Looks like they borrowed the special effects from Dr Who. Did he just slid down the dinosaur like Fred Flintstone?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:02 PM (SiINZ)



I predict a ghey old time.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 08:04 PM (9q7Dl)

616
They could have put some of the budget into making Tara Reid look human

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

617 611 & 614. It's heavy and labor-intensive. But it's as close to a 'forever floor' as can be got.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fA1SL)

618 me no likey winter
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 08:04 PM (CE6iV)

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This is me too. Grew up in Chicago, and had enough of it. Sucks when it comes to the South, mild as it might be.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:07 PM (I16G8)

619 When were terazzo floors a thing? I still see some in old apartment buildings.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 19, 2018 07:43 PM (EPnrI)


When I was in FL, they were a big deal because terazzo laughed at the sand you inevitably tracked in.

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:07 PM (n9EOP)

620 They could have put some of the budget into making Tara Reid look human

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)


Time has not been her friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 08:07 PM (9q7Dl)

621 And my high school. Built in 1967.
Posted by: golfman


Had Terrazzo floors in my elementary school built in 1928.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 08:07 PM (6BjFc)

622 Whoa.

The thread's still going. Not complaining, just noting.

Hello, guys.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:09 PM (y87Qq)

623 Time has not been her friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 08:07 PM (9q7Dl)



Time, drugs, plastic surgery

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:09 PM (SiINZ)

624 Winter is my favorite season. No yard work and no centipedes.

I understand that people in upstate New York and Minnesota may beg to differ.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:09 PM (sdi6R)

625 I like Fall the best I think. Or maybe Spring.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:11 PM (MVjcR)

626 Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 07:54 PM (K22Va)

No. Clear Lake. At the time, the place was called Blackhawk Campgrounds. They sold it many years ago. I haven't been up that way in probably 15 years or more. It might have been off 26 59?

Looked it up. Still called Blachawk, according to Creepy Maps.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at August 19, 2018 08:12 PM (C1NyB)

627 Winter is my favorite season. No yard work and no centipedes.

I understand that people in upstate New York and Minnesota may beg to differ.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:09 PM (sdi6R)


Winter's just fine with me. We get the real thing in lower Michigan videlicet lake effect from a big ol' lake.

But when you've lived in Hawaii, what passes for centipedes here are a joke. For clowns to laugh at. At the circus. You can't even ride them. Leave them all night outside and your car still has rims the next morning. They aren't running human trafficking rings. How are they even centipedes?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:13 PM (y87Qq)

628 Golfman, my HS in SC was built in the early 1900's. It had tongue and groove oak floors about 3/4 inch thick. Couple jackasses burned it to the ground. Jackasses. Our house has oak tongue and groove 5/8 inch thick in the old part. The old ways of building were the best. and better looking.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:14 PM (zLDYs)

629 "I like my coffee like I like my men: hot, sweet and ready to go first thing in the morning! "

It's twuuue!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:14 PM (N1ZXu)

630 Summer is hot but the womens wear less clothes so a good trade off. Winter sucks because shoveling snow is worse than mowing grass.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (6BjFc)

631 625 I like Fall the best I think. Or maybe Spring.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:11 PM (MVjcR)


I have always liked Fall. I can finally turn off the air conditioner and open the windows.

But Fall has more yard work than any other season.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

632 No. Clear Lake. At the time, the place was called Blackhawk Campgrounds.
They sold it many years ago. I haven't been up that way in probably 15
years or more. It might have been off 26?

Wasn't familiar with it but it seems to still be there.
http://tinyurl.com/y7gzeegm

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (K22Va)

633 Is there no Gun Thread today or something?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:17 PM (tA/XW)

634 Surfperch, I think the food thread is slowly morphing into the gun thread.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:18 PM (km8m2)

635 Yeah, Surfperch, I gotta get up at 0400 tomorrow. Let's talk gubs.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:18 PM (zLDYs)

636 I could take this summer year round, if anything the rain every other day is getting old. My tomatoes are starting to rot faster than they can produce

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:19 PM (lxZ71)

637 583 I got granite from Brazil in my kitchen. It emits so much radon that I didn't have to get the cat spayed

'Feldspar, mica, and quartz' is what I remember from the minerals-for-tots books I read in second grade. Feldspar has the uranium.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:19 PM (N1ZXu)

638 630 Summer is hot but the womens wear less clothes so a good trade off. Winter sucks because shoveling snow is worse than mowing grass.
Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (6BjFc)


That depends on your property and where you live. Where I am, shoveling snow once in awhile is not as bad as mowing every f*cking week.

Of course, if you live in a place like Minnesota, Wisconsin, or upstate New York where you get snowfall every couple of days, I can see how that could get old real fast.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

639 Eromero - Welcome to the club, make sure you log in then.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:20 PM (lxZ71)

640 Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (6BjFc)


Sundresses, oh yes!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:20 PM (n9EOP)

641 Jeebus, this thread is still going?

Have you resorted to cannibalism yet?

If not, why not?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (kQs4Y)

642 I should be lights out but was napping this afternoon.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (lxZ71)

643 Is there no Gun Thread today or something?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:17

Are not all threads ultimately gun threads?

Is this not the story of the blog?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (mxvSl)

644
Surfperch, I think the food thread is slowly morphing into the gun thread.
Posted by: qdpsteve


Potato gun

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (IqV8l)

645 Go like survivor and vote people out

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:22 PM (lxZ71)

646 Have you resorted to cannibalism yet?
If not, why not?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (kQs4Y)


We're fresh out of fava beans and chianti.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:23 PM (km8m2)

647 Surfperch, I think the food thread is slowly morphing into the gun thread.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Potato gun
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (IqV8l)

It's spelled P-O-T-A-T-O-E!

Posted by: Dan Quayle at August 19, 2018 08:23 PM (tA/XW)

648 Jeebus, this thread is still going?

Have you resorted to cannibalism yet?

If not, why not?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM (kQs4Y)


Bob must not be hungry right now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 08:23 PM (SiINZ)

649 Have you resorted to cannibalism yet?

If not, why not?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:21 PM

Um...Bob isn't here with recipes?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2018 08:23 PM (mxvSl)

650 Feldspar has the uranium.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:19 PM (N1ZXu)


On the positive side, I don't need nightlights in my kitchen because of the feldspar counter tops.On the negative side, my dog's last litter were all two headed pups!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:23 PM (n9EOP)

651 I was up for a Precambrian Mantle geology thread.

Speaking of. Here is a cave in Abkhazia with no bottom -
t.co/oU5sFO6s04

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:24 PM (N1ZXu)

652 Was hoping for a gun thread, seems my tree trunk around 10 feet long is supported on each end, tough to chainsaw through as well as about 2 feet in diameter. Pondered drilling a hole in middle, filling with blackpowder and setting it off. Wondered how much radius people thought I need.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (lxZ71)

653 Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I think wimmenz all bundled up in winter look cute.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (sdi6R)

654 I hate winter because it just slogs on forever. If it lasted two weeks, or maybe to the end of January, that would be okay. December in Australia is nice. Then after that you can visit New Zealand.
Looking at hotels in Sydney - Sheraton on the Park is supposed to be good.

Posted by: sarahw at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (Sp1NT)

655 The segue is food -> picnics -> picnics in boats -> canoes -> canoe accidents -> gub thread!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (n9EOP)

656 Speaking of. Here is a cave in Abkhazia with no bottom -
t.co/oU5sFO6s04
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:24 PM (N1ZXu)


That'll come in handy. Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (km8m2)

657 MisHum is Keeper of the gun thread, yes?

Have we tried making a crude effigy of him and offering it spent casings in return for a bountiful gun thread?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (y87Qq)

658 New threads are a privilege, not a right.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

659 Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I think wimmenz all bundled up in winter look cute.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (sdi6R)


You're not wrong.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:27 PM (y87Qq)

660 Was hoping for a gun thread, seems my tree trunk around 10 feet long is supported on each end, tough to chainsaw through as well as about 2 feet in diameter. Pondered drilling a hole in middle, filling with blackpowder and setting it off. Wondered how much radius people thought I need.
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (lxZ71)

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You need a tree service. Please do not attempt this.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:28 PM (I16G8)

661 Skip, sounds like you'd end up turning your tree into a missile :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (km8m2)

662 New threads are a privilege, security clearance is a right
John Brennen

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (lxZ71)

663 Whether you call it Autumn or Fall it's the most beautiful time of year. The sunlight is the best of the year, golden and clear. The smell of the leaves, their colors, their sound as they go skittering across the road. Instead of a mass of green, the trees stand out as individuals. Warm days and crisp nights, apples and pears, pumpkins and cornstalks, Fall baking, Halloween, Thanksgiving. The relief from summer, the anticipation of the holidays. Not a single bad thing about it. Even the leaf-raking is fun, make big piles and watch the dog romp around.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (2NqXo)

664 New threads are a privilege, not a right.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

#NewThreadPrivilege

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (n9EOP)

665 Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I think wimmenz all bundled up in winter look cute.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM

Hmmm...nice cashmere sweaters, dresses that leave things to the imagination...

You are correct.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (mxvSl)

666 The segue is food -> picnics -> picnics in boats -> canoes -> canoe accidents -> gub thread!
Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (n9EOP)

For the Pet Thread it's pets-> hunting dogs-> hunting-> gub thread!

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (tA/XW)

667 Mrs. E is pfissed at pfolks with their granite and other stone countertops because it's a nonrenewable resource. I say that's why we use stainless steel. Recycle steel is good business. Recycled granite is road base.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (zLDYs)

668 I was going to make a bomb to blow up some bees a couple of summers ago, then realized I could spend about a thousand years in jail.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

669 Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (lxZ71)


If you are in the NoVA area, I know the only (or at least one of the very few) guys that can do this safely!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:31 PM (n9EOP)

670 Speaking of. Here is a cave in Abkhazia with no bottom -
t.co/oU5sFO6s04
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:24 PM (N1ZXu)
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So you're saying it is pantsless?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:31 PM (kQs4Y)

671 Weasel, LOL.

"We're gonna throw the book atcha. Those bees just converted to Islam!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (km8m2)

672 I was going to make a bomb to blow up some bees a couple of summers ago, then realized I could spend about a thousand years in jail.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (MVjcR)


Only if the sentences run consecutively for each bee. But yeah, not the best idea. If I tried something like that, I'd end up in jail and wouldn't even kill half the bees.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (y87Qq)

673 Only wondered what could happen, my house is only 30 feet away from tree, gas line is under ( way under, like a dozen) house across the street is only 100 feet so road isn't but 20 feet away.
But do I have a quantity of blackpowder at hand.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (lxZ71)

674 Dropping a tree? Three wraps of detcord. Black powder ain't gonna get it done.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (fA1SL)

675 660 Was hoping for a gun thread, seems my tree trunk around 10 feet long is supported on each end, tough to chainsaw through as well as about 2 feet in diameter. Pondered drilling a hole in middle, filling with blackpowder and setting it off. Wondered how much radius people thought I need.
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (lxZ71)

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You need a tree service. Please do not attempt this.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:28 PM (I16G


Not 2 ft in dia, but today I reduced an 18 in limb that broke of in a storm a couple weeks ago.

Son sold me a new chainsaw (divorce sale) yesterday. He had it ported, so non-CARB compliant and 30%+ better than stock. 24 inch bar and it was chewing through the limb like butter.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (di1hb)

676 You need a tree service. Please do not attempt this.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:28 PM

Seriously. This is not a "here, hold my beer" moment.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (mxvSl)

677 FORMICA.
Where did they get that name?
For heaven's sake, it means ANT in Latin.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (0jtPF)

678 I was going to make a bomb to blow up some bees a couple of summers ago, then realized I could spend about a thousand years in jail.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

Tell me more...

Posted by: Not the BATF at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (tA/XW)

679 660
Was hoping for a gun thread, seems my tree trunk around 10 feet long is
supported on each end, tough to chainsaw through as well as about 2 feet
in diameter. Pondered drilling a hole in middle, filling with
blackpowder and setting it off. Wondered how much radius people thought I
need.

Chainsaw it from underneath in the middle.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (K22Va)

680 In the middle if Weasel acres I'd have a go, just to see what would happen.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:34 PM (lxZ71)

681 (651) 58 pages of PDF about Krubrera-Voronja cave. 7k feet deep. Can't wait to read it.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 08:34 PM (RuIsu)

682 He was going to drop a bee bomb from a B-29.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 08:34 PM (IqV8l)

683 Bertram, potato guns are all but useless. It's really tough finding a decent magazine for your potatoes...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (km8m2)

684 [iPosted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

Please do not do this with honey bees, but for any other stinging insect/bee/wasp, I have found that ethanol free gasoline applied liberally after dark, works like a charm!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (n9EOP)

685 Where did they get that name?
For heaven's sake, it means ANT in Latin.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (0jtPF)


From the mineral, not the bug or the acid.

But thank you for giving me the opportunity to say that the etymology is unrelated to entomology. I really do appreciate that and it bugs me that I don't have words to express it.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (y87Qq)

686 679 - There is only a couple inch clearance but could dig, undermine it and chainsaw from there,

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (lxZ71)

687 granite is a fucking rock.
Who the fuck cares if it is renewable. If you remove the rock, there is another rock beneath it. SCIENCE.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (N1ZXu)

688 Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I think wimmenz all bundled up in winter look cute.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:25 PM (sdi6R)

Better Stompy boots yes.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (6BjFc)

689 665
Hmmm...nice cashmere sweaters, dresses that leave things to the imagination...

You are correct.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (mxvSl)


And nice long stylish coats, too.

And boots.

BRB.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

690 685. 'It bugs me.'
**
ISWYDT

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (fA1SL)

691 He was going to drop a bee bomb from a B-29.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 08:34 PM (IqV8l)


"Slight miss, landed on the nearby police station. Oopsie!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (km8m2)

692 Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (n9EOP)
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Yellow jackets. They started the shit!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (j9z6A)

693 I don't know. My highest electricity bill in the Summer is half the worst one in the Winter.

Posted by: JAS at August 19, 2018 08:37 PM (3HNOQ)

694
If you remove the rock, there is another rock beneath it. SCIENCE.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo


When all the rock is gone the planet ceases to exist.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 08:37 PM (IqV8l)

695 Good lord. Regarding Krubera Cave, "Ukrainian cave diver Gennadiy Samokhin was responsible for reaching a new world depth record of −2,197 metres (−7,208 ft)."

Would that not drive a normal person mad?

Are there any effects related to being that far down into the earth? I know it's barely scratching the surface, but for a human that's a very unusual environment.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)

696 Chainsaw it from underneath in the middle.
Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM
~~~~~

Then slap a hot iron to it.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 19, 2018 08:37 PM (Ri0Ku)

697 And nice long stylish coats, too.

And boots.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (sdi6R)


Still not wrong. Actually getting more and more right.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:38 PM (y87Qq)

698 Yellow jackets. They started the shit!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (j9z6A)



In that case, a napalm equivalent is morally consistent ecologically!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:38 PM (n9EOP)

699 Uh oh, the bees just called the SPLC.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2018 08:39 PM (km8m2)

700 Imagine someone who is unmoved by the thought of food, and how hard it can be to keep a person like that from starving to death, surrounded by food.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:39 PM (txw6d)

701 695. Other, lesser, veaker peoples, to be sure. But heroic explorer of SMR has no fear.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:39 PM (fA1SL)

702 Twice been stung by yellow jackets like 8 times within 10 seconds, lived to tell about it so guess I'm not allergic

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:39 PM (lxZ71)

703 Don't you become weightless the closer you to the center of the Earth?

Posted by: JAS at August 19, 2018 08:40 PM (3HNOQ)

704 But heroic explorer of SMR has no fear.

I'm in luck!

Posted by: Lena! at August 19, 2018 08:40 PM (N1ZXu)

705 686
679 - There is only a couple inch clearance but could dig, undermine it and chainsaw from there,

If you cut from the top it will close on the blade and bind it if it has room to fall. Maybe jam logs under it on either side of the cut and it won't bind the saw. Should be a piece of cake.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:40 PM (K22Va)

706 Are there any effects related to being that far down into the earth? I know it's barely scratching the surface, but for a human that's a very unusual environment.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)


Like... barometric effects? I don't think so, not really. 33 feet underwater is one atmosphere. So the effect of being under about 100 kilometers of air (some thin, granted) is the same as being 10 meters underwater. 20 meters underwater would be another 100km of air.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (y87Qq)

707 698 Yellow jackets. They started the shit!

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (j9z6A)


In that case, a napalm equivalent is morally consistent ecologically!
Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:38 PM (n9EOP)
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Truth be told I wiped them out with about a quart of Diazinon while prepping the battle space

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (j9z6A)

708 Look for Raid in the black can. Wasp and hornet. Sprays up to 22 feet away.

Posted by: JAS at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (3HNOQ)

709 Thought of wedges like lumberjack do but a stuck bound blade would be the end so wasn't going that way. Probably will try digging a trench under about 2 feet wide, 2 deep

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (lxZ71)

710 (695) I would guess that the barometric pressure would go up a bit, might even start getting warmer, being closer to heck, and all.

I'll flip through the report later.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2018 08:44 PM (RuIsu)

711 So, when you get past the last hard rock you run in to molten rock. Isn't that kinda like warm pudding? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:45 PM (zLDYs)

712 Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (j9z6A)

But the smell of napalm in the morning is so invigorating!

Posted by: LTC Bill Kilgore at August 19, 2018 08:45 PM (n9EOP)

713 Well 4am is almost a hour closer so it's going to be lights out.
Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:46 PM (lxZ71)

714 Look for Raid in the black can. Wasp and hornet. Sprays up to 22 feet away.

Posted by: JAS at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (3HNOQ)

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Yeah, that stuff works great. Wasps were just getting started with a nest under the gutter off of my deck. I used that stuff at dusk on it. 4 bees immediately came out. I thought they were just pissed off. Then they fell down on the deck. Took about one second.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (I16G8)

715 709 Thought of wedges like lumberjack do but a stuck bound blade would be the end so wasn't going that way. Probably will try digging a trench under about 2 feet wide, 2 deep
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (lxZ71)


Plastic felling wedges. Cut partway through, pound wedges in (near top, front and back). Finish cut. Wedges prevent pinch. Plastic, so if you bump one, it won't break the chain.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (di1hb)

716 On Sharknado the gang traveled back in time to the American revolution. Yes.

Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (+Tibp)

717 So, when you get past the last hard rock you run in to molten rock. Isn't that kinda like warm pudding? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:45 PM (zLDYs)


Well, speaking from my extensive geology experience of hitting things with my fists in Minecraft, it's water with a different texture map.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (y87Qq)

718 Didn't Al Gore warn us that the center of the Earth was like 20 billion degrees?

Listen up people!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 08:48 PM (EoRCO)

719 Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (lxZ71)

A trace of dirt will ruin your chainsaw's day pretty quickly!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:48 PM (n9EOP)

720 Then they fell down on the deck. Took about one second.

lol.. works like a charm. We've had to do it many times.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 08:48 PM (dUJdY)

721 Speaking of food, media supports effort to destroy Mexican restaurant where Jeff Sessions ate.

Leftist loons wining votes daily:

https://tinyurl.com/y8mjdf9l

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 08:49 PM (AllCR)

722 Th oh, the bees just called the SPLC.
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The Southern Pollen Locating Channel?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:49 PM (Evws/)

723 http://theprocutter.com/how-to-cut-logs-with-a-chainsaw/

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (di1hb)

724 709
Thought of wedges like lumberjack do but a stuck bound blade would be
the end so wasn't going that way. Probably will try digging a trench
under about 2 feet wide, 2 deep

It's a bitch cutting up but if you can get a kerf cut under it, you might finish it on top without problems. Binding the blade would not be good.

Posted by: dartist at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (K22Va)

725 "Leftist loons wining votes daily"

Yeah, the Dems are for the Little Man.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (w7KSn)

726 721
Speaking of food, media supports effort to destroy Mexican restaurant where Jeff Sessions ate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 08:49 PM (AllCR)

And Univision has jumped into the fray to ruin this guys' business.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (gEvQ8)

727 Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:45 PM (zLDYs)

Well, speaking from my extensive geology experience of hitting things with my fists in Minecraft, it's water with a different texture map.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (y87Qq)

It also doesn't flow as far as water and it will catch you on fire unless you drink a potion of fire resistance or have armor with a really high level of Fire Protection on.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (tA/XW)

728 726.
REMOVE AZTEC

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (fA1SL)

729 No gub thread yet so I'm just a-goint to brag on my frankenglock. I plan to shoot it this coming week for the first time and it will be .....well.....orgasmic. Or close to what I remember as orgasmic.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (zLDYs)

730 It's been raining all day. Just a nice rain, no storms. Doggie has been holding his pee in.. thankfully I see it starting to clear up.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (dUJdY)

731 And Univision has jumped into the fray to ruin this guys' business.Posted by: Old Blue at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (gEvQ

Univision is a disgrace!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (AllCR)

732 Nice night out, fairly clear. Dusk, but no stars out yet. Venus, Jupiter, and the moon all in a nearly straight line. Mars is up in the east

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (xSo9G)

733
Star Wars is on. It's the episode when Spock has shuttle trouble and is forced to make "logical" decisions for survival.

I just noticed this is the only episode with pretty darn good special effects.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (HkNlg)

734 granite is a fucking rock.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2018 08:35 PM (N1ZXu)


Before the white man invade our land, Great Spirit come to my ancestors, who were all ears of corn. Great Spirit say, you fuck on sandstone, you become Man. From that day, my ancestors all fuck on sandstone. It was the fucking rock.

Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (uSlc8)

735 Wow! Beans, vodka, French toast... is this the sex thread?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (FTPVM)

736 It also doesn't flow as far as water and it will catch you on fire unless you drink a potion of fire resistance or have armor with a really high level of Fire Protection on.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (tA/XW)


This is true. If you put it in a bucket, you can also burn items with it in a furnace.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)

737 Speaking of food, media supports effort to destroy Mexican restaurant where Jeff Sessions ate.

Leftist loons wining votes daily:

https://tinyurl.com/y8mjdf9l
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 08:49 PM (AllCR)

Wait! Did Jeff Sessions actually wake up, or did he just sleepwalk there?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (tA/XW)

738

Nice going, Cuck-led Senate, to pass that stupid and wrong resolution about the fake news not being the enemy of the people.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (HkNlg)

739 Speaking of food, media supports effort to destroy Mexican restaurant where Jeff Sessions ate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2018 08:49 PM (AllCR)

And Univision has jumped into the fray to ruin this guys' business.
Posted by: Old Blue at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (gEvQ

------------

I can, in some small way, get why they hate Sessions. Team Trump and all.

But a restaurant he happened to choose for dinner? WTAF?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (I16G8)

740 Wait! Did Jeff Sessions actually wake up, or did he just sleepwalk there?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (tA/XW)



The irony is, he doesn't even know he ate there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (uSlc8)

741 But a restaurant he happened to choose for dinner? WTAF?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (I16G


Conservatives must eat at home. It's the new Black Lives matter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (uSlc8)

742 A trace of dirt will ruin your chainsaw's day pretty quickly!
Posted by: Hrothgar Bot
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Pfft.

Posted by: Earth First! Pounding spikes into trees at August 19, 2018 08:55 PM (xSo9G)

743 This is true. If you put it in a bucket, you can also burn items with it in a furnace.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)

It'll burn 100 items exactly, to be precise. Which is a bit of a nuisance as it's impossible to fit 100 items in the top slot of the furnace.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 08:55 PM (tA/XW)

744 Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super
duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead
door?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Dad said he was always impressed by the Nash motorcars because they used the same door handle as the Kelvinator refrigerator.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 08:56 PM (2K6fY)

745 There is a theory, called Paleoweltschmerz, which expresses a possible explanation for the extinction of dinosaurs. It claims that dinosaurs became so disillusioned with their ancient world that they died of boredom.

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2018 08:57 PM (e8kgV)

746 741. Then, get the grocers to cut them off, after you've got the utility companies to cut off service, but before you get their houses condemned by the local government.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:57 PM (fA1SL)

747 Nice going, Cuck-led Senate, to pass that stupid and wrong resolution about the fake news not being the enemy of the people.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (HkNlg)

------------

They just said The Media in that idiotic vote. Trump came out and corrected them with the "fake news".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:57 PM (I16G8)

748 674 Dropping a tree? Three wraps of detcord. Black powder ain't gonna get it done.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:32 PM (fA1SL)

Funny story:

Last week at Insights training class, the instructor Greg Hamilton is a shouty Ranger/Special Forces operator. He was doing a long discussion about how kitted out his house is, etc. Really making us armchair commandos sound reasonable in comparison, frankly.

He mentioned that in his truck, he has seat covers and he asked "And what do you think I have wrapped around both seats under those seat covers?"

And I said, "Det Cord?"

That actually broke his verbal stride. I laugh at my own jokes.

Anyway good course, Greg's a good trainer but not for new shooters, not unless you don't mind getting shouted at.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 19, 2018 08:58 PM (xJa6I)

749
They probably already make faux granite out of recycled plastic bags and newspapers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (HkNlg)

750 Nice going, Cuck-led Senate, to pass that stupid and wrong resolution about the fake news not being the enemy of the people.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (HkNlg)


Can you imagine the great things that would be already accomplished if the Congress was not infested with cuck-RINOs with their hands in the till!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (n9EOP)

751 746 741. Then, get the grocers to cut them off, after you've got the utility companies to cut off service, but before you get their houses condemned by the local government.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 08:57 PM (fA1SL)


Soon we will be small, mobile bands of hunter-gatherers, foraging at night and choosing our leaders by mortal combat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (uSlc8)

752 Calm, all the media is tainted. We know, or can imagine, what that smells like.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (zLDYs)

753 745
There is a theory, called Paleoweltschmerz, which expresses a possible
explanation for the extinction of dinosaurs. It claims that dinosaurs
became so disillusioned with their ancient world that they died of
boredom.

And breathing giant farts!

Posted by: al at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (K22Va)

754
I get a boner from Masonry.

I love Rocks.

Granite, marble, bricks, concrete, natural stone, slate, bluestone, limestone, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 09:00 PM (HkNlg)

755 Anyone remember those old refrigerators from the 50's with the super
duper handles that belonged on a bank vault or in a submarine's bulkhead
door?

Posted by: Soothsayer
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That's because they were actual latches, as opposed to the magnetic seals now used.

We have a Gibson, like this, in the basement:

http://tinyurl.com/y7grajee

Posted by: Earth First! Pounding spikes into trees at August 19, 2018 09:01 PM (xSo9G)

756 Oops /Eco Freak sock

Posted by: Earth First! Pounding spikes into trees at August 19, 2018 09:01 PM (xSo9G)

757 Bah!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:01 PM (xSo9G)

758 Are there rocks in the sock?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:01 PM (y87Qq)

759
I like Rocks and Glass and Steel. Hate wood.

If I ever build my own house from scratch, it will be Granite and Glass, and Steel. No wood.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 09:02 PM (HkNlg)

760
Latches!
Yes. I couldn't think of the word.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 09:02 PM (HkNlg)

761 It claims that dinosaurs became so disillusioned with their ancient world that they died of boredom.


Summon the meteors.


http://bit.ly/2N12YS4


Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (yQpMk)

762 'I just noticed this is the only episode with pretty darn good special effects.'

They updated some of the effects. Some of it is ok but not really necessary.

Posted by: freakd at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (UdKB7)

763 If I ever build my own house from scratch, it will be Granite and Glass, and Steel. No wood.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 09:02 PM (HkNlg)


Mine will be rolls and rolls of pink fiberglass insulation and nothing else.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq)

764 I love Rocks.

Granite, marble, bricks, concrete, natural stone, slate, bluestone, limestone, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer
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I come from a family of stonemasons. Yorkshire is peppered with their carvings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (xSo9G)

765 Conservatives must eat at home. It's the new Black Lives matter.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (uSlc


Its not like they are allowed to eat at our lunch counters or go to our schools! I mean, the separate bathrooms and drinking fountains are so they won't feel socially awkward. Conservatives can't be allowed to do what they want, they will break society by mixing in.

It's like someone told you Apartheid was a bad thing, are you one of them?

Posted by: Social Justice Barrista at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (2K6fY)

766 Tori Spelling so Tara Reid can look good

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (SiINZ)

767
They updated some of the effects.

Oh?
Like how they colorized Gilligan's Island??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (HkNlg)

768 Mine will be rolls and rolls of pink fiberglass insulation and nothing else.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq)



How about adding some Christmas lights? They're always nice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (uSlc8)

769 745 There is a theory, called Paleoweltschmerz, which expresses a possible explanation for the extinction of dinosaurs. It claims that dinosaurs became so disillusioned with their ancient world that they died of boredom.
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2018 08:57 PM (e8kgV)
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L'ennui, l'ennui!

Posted by: Parasaurolophus in a black beret puffing on a Gauloise at August 19, 2018 09:05 PM (kQs4Y)

770 I have always wanted to build a wattle and daub house.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 09:05 PM (yQpMk)

771 If I ever build another house, I'm going underground. Or at least bermed over.

Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2018 09:05 PM (zLDYs)

772 759.
Earthbags, ftw!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 09:05 PM (fA1SL)

773 How about adding some Christmas lights? They're always nice.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (uSlc


Good idea. AAAAA holy shit not kidding, huge spider right here brb

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)

774 fuckity fuck

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)

775 I was sitting on this, hoping for the gun thread, but I'll drop it now.

For those of you who occasionally break free of this smart military blog, you may have heard of Smallest Minority blog at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com . Kevin routinely posts discourse with gun grabbers, and he does great work.

He's run into some health trouble, and his family has set up a gofundme page. The goal is a very modest $5k, but I think he's going to need more than that. I am posting this here in the hopes the Horde can do for him what it did for the Scout Sniper raffle and blow the doors off the goal.

https://tinyurl.com/y72ch8zb

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (C1NyB)

776 I saw Wattle & Daub open for Hamilton Joe Frank & Reynolds at the Forum in '77.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (uSlc8)

777 I'm going with Yak skins. Yurts are where it's at.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (xSo9G)

778 ok got it

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (y87Qq)

779 It's like someone told you Apartheid was a bad thing, are you one of them?


Posted by: Social Justice Barrista at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (2K6fY)


Obviously we are all equal, but when you get right down to it, some of us are deservedly more equal than the rest of you!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (n9EOP)

780 773 How about adding some Christmas lights? They're always nice.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (uSlc

Good idea. AAAAA holy shit not kidding, huge spider right here brb
-----
Still have the bee bomb stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (MVjcR)

781 fuckity fuck
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)



Try to negotiate!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (uSlc8)

Truth Or Consequences....Moron Edition

Tell us a story...it can be true, or mostly true, or partly true, or a complete load of unadulterated bullshit.

The only rule is that it should sound good.

Whoever tells the best true one that sounds ridiculously farfetched wins a Platinum Membership with the ampersand utility and Troll-B-GonTM.

Whoever tells the best tall tale and passes it off as true wins a set of steak knives.

Oh...if you just feel like bragging about something, go ahead!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 I read the content....

Posted by: AnthonyB at August 19, 2018 01:59 PM (VE1wO)

2 Frist!

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2018 01:59 PM (wnFFv)

3 Damn!

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2018 02:00 PM (wnFFv)

4 I had my last child at the age of 45. My oldest daughter was 18 at the time, so the summer I was pregnant I made sure to send her on a visit to my parents in New York - because I knew that unless they could see her, my mother would firmly believe that Daughter was pregnant, and I was just covering up for her.

Posted by: Annalucia at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (S6ArX)

5 First!!!!!!

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (AcZtS)

6 If I was any good at that, I would have gotten laid a lot more often.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (sdi6R)

7 I got nothin'

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (O98j8)

8 Yo mo fos

Posted by: Kentucky kid at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (WTpkS)

9 Frost!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (9BLnV)

10 Best story of the year gets the Brian Williams trophy, complete with an autographed golf sock.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (0tfLf)

11 The moron who wins this should be the guy whose cousin was in the Manson family but got evicted for being too crazy.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (O98j8)

12 Hillary Clinton did not win the election and Donald Trump did.

Posted by: Average Jen at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (K3XFO)

13 I ever tell you about the time I woke up and found myself dead?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:07 PM (gC2IV)

14 OK, so here is a story, and this is no BS. Just finished my second rotation at the National Training Center as a M109A6 battery commander. We were at ENDEX and and NCOs were getting things organized for the movement back to the Dust Bowl. Really nothing for me to do, so I kicked my driver out and drove up into the mountains north of the live fire area and stripped for my first actual water bath in more than two weeks. I was enjoying the process when I heard a helicopter in the valley below. No problem, everyone was getting ready to move back to main post. I was bare assed naked except for my boots when the News Six helicopter came into view. The pilot hovered about 100 meters above and pelted me with sand, while the blonde reporter in the back of the bird laughed and pointed for what seemed like a very long time. I don't think they aired that one on the local news that night. And that is my second most embarrassing NTC story....

Posted by: AnthonyB at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (VE1wO)

15 Jake Tapper's dad is a psychiatrist in S. Philly. He went public with his son's various and sundry neuroses in a notorious FB rant.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 02:11 PM (O98j8)

16 Once, many years ago, when I was on the can, I had a sudden intuition that something was moving in the bowl beneath me. I jumped up, barely in time to avoid being bitten by a very, very angry shat-upon cottonmouth. I then screamed and beat the fucker to death with the plunger while my then roommates started yelling about all the noise and what the fuck was going on in there.

Apparently the snake crawled up the pipe? I don't know how it got up there, but I've had a new irrational fear ever since.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:12 PM (d0Ce4)

17 Are you kidding me? A build-up like that and you don't even give us a story to get us started? What, you expect us to write your content for you? This is why you get paid the big bucks AND the dental plan, CBD!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 02:13 PM (JJZzu)

18 I met Nancy Pelosi's niece in San Francisco once; believe it or not, she actually seemed human.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:13 PM (AcZtS)

19 MUMR could bust some shit out.
Oh well.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2018 02:13 PM (89T5c)

20 True story. Worked at gas station in College. Little old lady, regular customer, 64' Impala. While getting gas she cracks the window down and asks if I have a whisk broom. I didn't, and assumed she wanted her floor mats cleaned. I grabbed a big air hose on the fuel island and said 'No, but I'll blow it out'
She looked at me in horror, started the car and drove off with the fuel hose, gas going everywhere. A week later she brought the hose back and told my boss he should fire that disrespectful young man. She had asked if we had a restroom...

Posted by: DBCooper at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (X/NON)

21 Oh no, I'm not dropping my brilliance on to you all just to get willowed! From the Science! thread below:
Palaeontology is just archaeology as applied to nonhumans.





Vox Day (a former programmer) is right that "science" is too broad a

term to be much useful. Useful science is engineering. Palaeontology is

about dead things and so isn't directly useful, in the same way knowing

about the Holocaust isn't directly useful.


Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2018 12:46 PM (N1ZXu)

Over
the past few years I've come to use the term Natural Philosophy for the
sciences one can't experimentally prove hypotheses with. The funny
thing is, it's subject to change. Linneaen taxonomy is Natural
Philosophy but with DNA analysis biological taxonomy has become science.
Paleontology and Archeology have hypotheses that make sense and may be
true but we can never really "prove" them by observation or experiment.
Hence, Natural Philosophy.


Posted by: J. Random Dude at August 19, 2018 02:11 PM (FfJxM)

Posted by: J. Random Dude at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (FfJxM)

22 I voted for Trump.

Posted by: B. Obama at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (LOq4H)

23 I invented a joke that is used everywhere now - that all of you have heard and a fair number have used - all because Ace put it in a bunch of his headlines and spread it far and wide.

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 02:16 PM (uEbPt)

24 NTC is for you kids today.

Back in the Cold War, we were finishing up shooting at Grafenwhor. Waiting on the troopsa and NCOs to pack up the Fire Direction Center, we were standing in a small group near the S3's track. All of a sudden, WOMPH! Right in our midst a 155mm projectile landed. It was sticking about half way out of the ground.
Nobody said anything.
Nobody moved.
I quietly reached into my field jacket and pulled out a cigar. I offered one to the battalion commander and the command sergeant major. We lit up and stood there, each waiting for the other to make the first move.
True story.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:17 PM (0tfLf)

25 Firken are short hairy breeches work by 8th century Norsemen.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:17 PM (yQpMk)

26 20 ROFL

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 02:18 PM (CE6iV)

27 I ever tell you about the time I woke up and found myself dead?

I was actually born dead, the fact that I blame for my lack of a soul.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

28 I coined the word "fantabulous" back in the mid-90s.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 02:20 PM (CE6iV)

29
Once, many years ago, when I was on the can, I had a sudden intuition
that something was moving in the bowl beneath me. I jumped up, barely in
time to avoid being bitten by a very, very angry shat-upon cottonmouth.
I then screamed and beat the fucker to death with the plunger while my
then roommates started yelling about all the noise and what the fuck was
going on in there.



Apparently the snake crawled up the pipe? I don't know how it got up there, but I've had a new irrational fear ever since.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:12 PM (d0Ce4)

Assuming you're not bullshitting, I'd say that's not an irrational fear but an utterly rational fear backed up by concrete evidence.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at August 19, 2018 02:20 PM (FfJxM)

30 I got better.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:20 PM (gC2IV)

31
I'm in...

I brought Chuck at LFG (stet) a couple million hits, created an international story, and Chuck still banned me. Months later, a person I personally knew got the NYT to write a story about LFG, who then linked to my story, which caused Chuck to re-direct, because I was linking back to an anti-LFG site.

Mama/Gramma Winger can collaborate my story. If that Felon Speaker hasn't offed her.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (LOgQ4)

32 This one time at band camp, this chick was hot for me so I took her riding on my rocket to the stars. Years later I saw her again but by then she was known as Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (+y/Ru)

33 My FIL ran over my MIL in a snowstorm, and killed her. He was also in the Swedish Navy.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (lwiT4)

34 23 I invented a joke that is used everywhere now - that all of you have heard and a fair number have used - all because Ace put it in a bunch of his headlines and spread it far and wide.

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 02:16 PM (uEbPt)


"But Mostly...."

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (cvabZ)

35 Ladies, I WAS "that" guy your mother warned you about.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (LOq4H)

36 Mama/Gramma Winger can collaborate my story. If that Felon Speaker hasn't offed her.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (LOgQ4)



I'm a witness. I can testify.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (lwiT4)

37 My FIL ran over my MIL in a snowstorm, and killed her. He was also in the Swedish Navy.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (lwiT4)
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Oh come on, grammie. You don't really expect us to believe there's such as thing as the Swedish navy, do you?

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 02:23 PM (JJZzu)

38 Mrs928 is cooking pork chops in the oven. The aroma is maddening.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:24 PM (yQpMk)

39 I once licked the containment bulkhead of a 165MW S6G fission reactor while it was critical, under about 400 feet of water. I did this
- so i could always say that I did
- to see how it tasted (answer: ok)
If this is the oddest Moron bubblehead story on these forums I'll be absolutely stunned. Shit, it's not even my oddest story, just the first one that came to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:24 PM (y87Qq)

40 Englebert Humperdink was once on tour.
Stopped in Greensboro NC.
After the sold out show, he retired to his green room, took a shower, put on a robe.
A knock on the door came, Englebert answered it.
"Hi, Mr. Humperdink, we are you biggest fans in all of Greensboro" said 2 young girls.
"Well, come on in!" said Englebert, "I'll make some drinks".
He made the drinks and at this time, he noticed that the 2 girls were, in fact, conjoined twins. A quick leg count confirmed this.
Nonetheless, drinks were consumed, one thing led to another, Englebert parted his robe just a bit to reveal his manhood.
Stunned by the sight of it, one of the conjoined twins immediately went down on Englebert.
The other pulled out a clarinet and started playing "Begin the Beguine" at the same time.
Soon, their top slipped off and Englebert could not believe his eyes.
They had 3 boobs!
They carried on until about 4 in the morning and Englebert thanked them and put them in a cab.

A year goes by, the tour returns to Greensboro.
One of the twins asks the other "Should we go back to see Englebert again?"

"No" says the other "Englebert is a big star. He'll never remember us..."

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 02:25 PM (w7KSn)

41 bluebell - I have a picture. He's mostly just staring down at the water, doing nothing. It's what the Swedish military is famous for.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:25 PM (lwiT4)

42 Oh come on, grammie. You don't really expect us to believe there's such as thing as the Swedish navy, do you?

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 02:23 PM (JJZzu)


*elbows grammie*

Tell her about the bar codes on the side of the ships!

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:25 PM (y87Qq)

43 ok, this one is real.
I have a few memories from my childhood that I am not sure is real or imagined. I choose to think it's imagined because they would be very not good if real.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 02:25 PM (CE6iV)

44 I flew out of Boston from the gate next to Flight 11. I saw Mohammed Atta waiting for his flight.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (cvabZ)

45 I started a joke which started the whole world crying. I couldn't see that the joke was on me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (lwiT4)

46 After a long night of drinking, some buddies and I decided to recreate some dinosaurs using DNA we found in amber. We couldn't replicate the entire genetic code so we substituted amphibian DNA. One thing led to another and we had to shut it down. Oh man, the laughs we had!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (gC2IV)

47 I once got some sweet, juicy, rich, and thick information out of James Wolfe after a debriefing session using only my earlobes, ;D.

Posted by: Ali Watkins, NYT Reporter with Great Debriefing Skills at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (Ta69/)

48 I'm a witness. I can testify.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM


LOL. I'll bet Chuck could never in his wildest dreams ever realize that I brought the NYT to him. By the time the NYT got around to the story, Chuck had banned me. The timing was definitely off on his side.

Life is very, very strange.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (LOgQ4)

49 I once read the entire thread before commenting.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (uSlc8)

50 Once upon a time, I had purpose and a reason to go on living.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:27 PM (NWiLs)

51 I ever tell you about the time I woke up and found myself dead?

Hah! I can top that one!

Posted by: Franz Kafka at August 19, 2018 02:27 PM (uSlc8)

52 So I went to see my buddy in Jamaica, and he said, "screw this, let's go to Haiti and round up some of that Clinton Money!"


Before you knew it, we were living like kings! True Story!

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (CdLX2)

53 39-hogmartin

Good thing it wasn't a Russian sub. Your tongue would have fallen off on the spot.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (T71PA)

54 Once upon a time, I had purpose and a reason to go on living.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:27 PM (NWiLs)


Have you ever read any Kierkegaard? Just curious.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (y87Qq)

55

Netflix's Insatiable star Alyssa Milano railed against President Donald Trump's nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court, declaring that he will "affect everything we know to be true as American citizens."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (IqV8l)

56 So back maybe 25 years ago, a girl I had dated on and off called me at like 9pm one night out of the blue. We started talking about everything and just kept at it. This wasn't anything out of the ordinary for us. Around midnight I turn of my bedroom lights and we keep talking. And something starts bugging me. I have no idea what it is, but I know there's something odd going on here. So I just keep listening more and talking less. And she keep talking about all kinds of stuff. Her friends, her little sister and brother, random stuff on the news. And I just keep listening and start asking myself what do I want to ask her. Because I had the strangest feeling there was something she *wanted* me to ask her. So about 1 am, I finally stop talking totally and just let her voice kind of wash over me for maybe 10 min or so. And she gets quiet, and asks are you there. Yup, still here. She says, what's up? And I feel this pressure in my brain like I know the question is almost there. I tell her, I dunno. She's asks, do you want to hang up, it is late. And I ask here, give me just a minute. So total quiet for 2 or 3 minutes. And I can feel the pressure of this question just bursting my brain. And finally I ask her, totally out the blue, not even knowing what's coming out of my mouth until I say it, "So when did you get the abortion?" She nearly screams "How did you know?" and then breaks down sobbing telling me how she had been dating some football player from the local university and had gotten knocked up and then had the abortion. So we talk for another hour or so and then we finally say goodbye. Still have no idea what gave me that idea to say those words to her.

Posted by: McDirty at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (HCh/n)

57 I once walked off a ledge and fell down a 40ft crevice in the darkness of a cave. I literally knew that I was a goner as I realized that there was nothing under my feet. Instinctively I threw out my arms and legs while yelling NOOOOOOOOOO! and could just reach the sides to drag and slow myself enough to not splatter at the bottom, where I landed in a crumpled dirty and somewhat bloody heap, right in from of some tourists who where walking the lower path. I bet that scared the shit out of them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:29 PM (yQpMk)

58 Once upon a time, I had purpose and a reason to go on living.



And then you met us and ..... wait. This doesn't end the way I thought it would.....

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:29 PM (lwiT4)

59 Hogmartin,
My 'ol man was on subs in WW2. Used to tell about seeing the flash of depth charges while submerged.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:30 PM (0tfLf)

60 bluebell - I have a picture. He's mostly just
staring down at the water, doing nothing. It's what the Swedish military
is famous for.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:25 PM (lwiT4)


No, they hunt Russian subs too. They are really big on hunting Russian subs.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:30 PM (2K6fY)

61 My FIL ran over my MIL in a snowstorm, and killed her. He was also in the Swedish Navy.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM


I can vouch for that. Back at LFG (stet) .Except the Swedish Navy part. That sounds a tad embellished.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:30 PM (LOgQ4)

62 After returning from a deployment to the Persian Gulf a few years ago, a fellow officer from my unit committed suicide. The police report said that he had killed himself in his car at a rest stop after his foreign-born wife had him arrested for domestic violence. A DEA agent, they took his service weapon and badge when he was arrested. They never took his personal weapon away which eh killed himself with. I attended the open casket funeral.

Strangely, when we were on deployment, he never let anyone take his picture for the unit tour book because of his work with the DEA. He told me about how he was trying to get into a Colombia/Switzerland undercover operation. At his funeral, his colleagues told me was despondent because the domestic violence charge torpedoed any hopes that he had of being assigned to that op, therefore, he killed himself.

While on deployment, he and I would speak French and listen to heavy metal music. A lot of metal. I spoke French because I wanted to be sent to Djibouti as liaison to the French Marine. He wanted to practice for his prospective Switzerland op.

Last year, several years after our deployment, I travel to France went into a supermarket in Lyon. I was in the checkout line and noticed someone in the next line. It was my friend. I was 100 percent sure it was him just by looking at him.

My first thought was "Oh my god, that can't be him" but I KNEW IT WAS HIM. He had a scruff and long hair, but I KNEW IT WAS HIM.

He and I made brief eye contact, but I was not going to say "Hey, buddy, how are you?" He said nothing to me and we both checked out. He left first.

I ignored him and tried to process the shitstorm swirling in my head.

When I got onto the street. Another man came up to me and handed me a Slayer CD. In French, he said "I believe you dropped this." I said, thank you and went my way. On the CD box was written "56.5" -- the designation of our Command Task Force in the Persian Gulf. It was my friend confirming it was him.

I never saw my friend again and have never told anyone this story.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2018 02:31 PM (OBcoN)

63 Wait, are these supposed to be true stories, or no-shit stories?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:32 PM (yQpMk)

64 I owned a triplex once and I kept getting a call from a new tenant. She was a young broad, 26 years old, and quite attractive.

She would call and complain that the floor of her unit was keeping her up at night and making weird noises.

I told myself, WTF?, and went and paid her a visit.

While I was there she walked me around the place and said at night she would hear large rumblings and sliding noises coming from the floor and was worried "it" would get in.

I asked her, "What would get in?". She said "it" again.

I looked at her dumbfounded. I finally asked her what was "it" under her floor because I had no clue.

She said "The big penis under her unit would get in through the floor."



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 02:32 PM (EoRCO)

65 True now


A terrible wreck in the Indy race at Pocono. Up in the fence.

Still in the car. Red flag. It was pretty bad. Fence has to be repaired to even think about restarting.

NBCSN

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 19, 2018 02:32 PM (/WtnO)

66 20 True story. Worked at gas station in College. Little old lady, regular customer, 64' Impala. While getting gas she cracks the window down and asks if I have a whisk broom. I didn't, and assumed she wanted her floor mats cleaned. I grabbed a big air hose on the fuel island and said 'No, but I'll blow it out'
She looked at me in horror, started the car and drove off with the fuel hose, gas going everywhere. A week later she brought the hose back and told my boss he should fire that disrespectful young man. She had asked if we had a restroom...
Posted by: DBCooper at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (X/NON)

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ROFL

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 02:32 PM (ZCD4H)

67 I once pitched a movie idea to the SyFy network. They told me it was too outlandish and no one would believe it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:33 PM (gC2IV)

68 63 Wait, are these supposed to be true stories, or no-shit stories?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:32 PM (yQpMk)


Both. That's the beauty of it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 02:33 PM (cvabZ)

69 My 'ol man was on subs in WW2. Used to tell about seeing the flash of depth charges while submerged.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:30 PM (0tfLf)


Yep, that'll do it. Beaten in 20 comments.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:34 PM (y87Qq)

70 I never saw my friend again and have never told anyone this story.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2018 02:31 PM (OBcoN)



Oh my gosh. If that's a true story - oh my gosh.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:34 PM (lwiT4)

71 I ever tell you about the time I woke up and found myself dead?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:07 PM


I was napping, and dreamed that I wanted to wake up... but couldn't. Couldn't move my arms or legs. Completely paralyzed. Because it's a dream.

There's some medical terminology for that type of event. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:34 PM (LOgQ4)

72 I was driving through rural Virginia on my way south to Florida, and I got off the highway because of construction and Waze routed me along FM route for a few miles. I came across a farm and on the gate was a sign that said "Black Lab For Sale - He Can Talk!" It was just odd enough for me to stop and check it out. I drive up to the old house and there was a guy sitting on the porch. I asked if the dog was still for sale. He nodded. So I asked what he meant by "He can talk". The old man said "Just what it says." I looked at him and he saw my disbleief so he said "Run back around the house and see for yourself. So I made my way around the house and opened the gate to the yard and there was a beauftul black lab. He looked a little older, with some gray around his whiskers, but he seemed to be in good health. He came up to me looking for some puppy loving, so i reached out to pet him and said Who's a good boy?" To my amaze ment, he looked at me at said with a big grin "This guy!" I must have jumped back ten feet. What the hell? The lab looked at me again and said "I know. I get that all the time." I asked him how he was able to talk and he said " I have no idea. Every since I was a puppy I was able to form words and put together sentences. I can even read. " "That's amazing, I told him. "Yeah, It's been pretty useful. I started off as a circus act, performing for treats and stuff, but then one day a guy approached me after a show and said he was from the CIA. He told me they could use someone like me because I could go places where people couldn't go and get near people without arousing suspicion. They trained me as a spy, and I would find ways to get near political leaders and military planners to overhear what they were saying. I'm just a dog, so people would talk and talk and reveal all kinds of secrets. I would report back to the guys at Langley and they would brief the president. I've been all over the Middle East, Latin America and even China. I started getting old though and just couldn't do it anymore. The President held a retirement party for me at the White House, but only a few CIA guys were there because it was so top secret. The guy out front is a former CIA agent, so they let me retire here where I can run in the fields and play all day."

I looked at him, my mouth probably wide open with my jaw on the ground the whole time. I went back to the old man sitting out front. "First, thank you for your service." The old man just gave me a look like he had no clue what I was talking about. "That dog is amazing. Not only can he talk, but is an honest to God American hero! Why in the world would you sell him?"

The farmer looked up at me from his newspaper and said "I'm just so tired of his bullshit. He lies like a rug. That old dog was born here and he ain't never been outside these gates."

Posted by: Dilsin at August 19, 2018 02:35 PM (3OMsg)

73 I once spent an hour at Tokyo's Lexington Queen drinking beer with John Bon Jovi.

Also talking small talk at Chumley's in NYC with Uncle Junior from The Sopranos and the Mayor from Ghostbusters.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 02:36 PM (cvabZ)

74 There's some medical terminology for that type of event. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:34 PM (LOgQ4)


Sleep paralysis. Sorry it isn't a more exciting term

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:36 PM (y87Qq)

75 You want a story, I'll give you one.

Every male in NYC wants a piece of me! They fantasize about me when they go home after seeing me on the streets...

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (Ta69/)

76 70 I never saw my friend again and have never told anyone this story.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2018 02:31 PM (OBcoN)

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Damn.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (ZCD4H)

77 There's some medical terminology for that type of event. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


I have encountered a succubus.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (yQpMk)

78 I once met an honest FBI agent. And, a helpful government office worker.

Posted by: Winston at August 19, 2018 02:38 PM (wgCUV)

79 Dear AOSHQ,

I never thought this could happen to me, but...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 02:38 PM (gC2IV)

80 Have you ever read any Kierkegaard? Just curious.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (y87Qq)

Not in depth.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:39 PM (NWiLs)

81 I renewed my drivers license last week.
Dreaded it.
Went in to the DMV and was done in 10 minutes.
No shit!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:39 PM (0tfLf)

82 My grandfather sold the family cow for a package of cigarettes.

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 19, 2018 02:40 PM (8w2G9)

83 Moki needs to be in this thread. She's got some doozys from her years as a diplomat. It would be easy for her to pass a tall-tale since topping some of her real experiences would be difficult.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 02:40 PM (uquGJ)

84 Thanks for "...But Mostly...".

I saw But Mostly open for the Rock Bottom Remainders at the Coconut Grove in '78.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 02:41 PM (Ndje9)

85 I ever tell you about the time I woke up and found myself dead?

I was actually born dead, the fact that I blame for my lack of a soul.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

Come on! I was dead once for three days, but you don't see me bragging about it!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 02:41 PM (9BLnV)

86 Theres a mushroom growing in my pointsettia pot today that came out of nowhere!

OMMMMMMGGGGGG IS IT POISONOUS CUZ I TOUCHED IT AND NOW IM SEEING COLORS??!??!?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 19, 2018 02:42 PM (+dsLj)

87 Thanks for "...But Mostly...".

I saw But Mostly open for the Rock Bottom Remainders at the Coconut Grove in '78.



The warm up act was First You will Blow me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:42 PM (yQpMk)

88 I worked with this guy who used to be in logistics for the Air Force missile command at Mcguire AFB in NJ. He had these stories ...

The best ...
One day a train pulled into Mcguire with no manifest. The logistics guys all poured out to the train cars and started to unload them, making their own manifest. Eventually, they came to the only rail car to have a padlock. Inside, they found a bunch of "blue" containers. Not knowing what they were, they started to unpack one. When they came to a nuclear symbol, they packed it back up an surrounded the railcar with MPs, until these containers could be properly stored.

Some months later, he received a call late in the evening that a car would pick him up at 5AM and take him to accompany a shipment. The car took him to the flight line where he boarded a plane and took off shortly thereafter. After getting a cup of coffee, he went back to see just what he was accompanying. There they were ... those blue containers. He was on the way to Gitmo. It was October 1962. This was an unknown part of the Cuban missile crisis.

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2018 02:42 PM (e8kgV)

89 Moron version of spin the bottle without any meatspace consequences. heh.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 02:43 PM (pcnVL)

90 77 There's some medical terminology for that type of event. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


I have encountered a succubus.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (yQpMk)

Yeah, I was married once too.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:43 PM (NWiLs)

91 I renewed my drivers license last week.
Dreaded it.
Went in to the DMV and was done in 10 minutes.
No shit!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:39 PM (0tfLf)


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a bullshit story winner for the thread. You people are going to have to work to bet this one.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 02:43 PM (9BLnV)

92 Ages ago my cousin was sitting on her porch with a puppy she had had for about a month when a cottonmouth showed up looking to make a meal of the dog. She yelled for my uncle who ran out of the house and dispatched the snake with his shotgun, which frightened the dog so much in ran out into the road where it was flattened by a passing car.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM (AcZtS)

93 This may not be a really good story, so I don't expect to win any prizes, but it's a TRUE story--every word---and it happened just the other day.

On Friday, a friend of mine called and said she needed to borrow $100. With every other thing going on in my life, I really don't have an extra hundred lying around, but there was no way I was going to say no, so I went to the ATM and withdrew $100. On the way home, I was passing a convenience store where I sometimes buy lottery tickets ( no lectures, please) so I decided to stop and buy a scratch off-ticket. I said to myself, "I'm going to buy one ticket and walk out. Hopefully I'll win. $ 50 would be nice."
I went in bought a $5 scratch off and went back to my car and started scratching.
I won $100.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM (y8Foj)

94 Dear Penthouse,

I never thought something like this could happen to me...

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 19, 2018 02:46 PM (fRgt5)

95 I won $100.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM (y8Foj)



That's so cool.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:46 PM (lwiT4)

96 23 I invented a joke that is used everywhere now - that all of you have heard and a fair number have used - all because Ace put it in a bunch of his headlines and spread it far and wide.

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 02:16 PM (uEbPt)

"But Mostly...."

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (cvabZ)

LOL I wish.
I always thought it was hysterical that the libs always referred to the agendas of "Big Pharma" and "Big Tobacco" and "Big Oil" and no one ever questioned it.

So one day in July of 2009 after Obama gave a particularly stupid speech about foot and tonsil-stealing doctors I found my chance and remarked on Hot Air that finally someone had the balls to go after "Big Tonsil". It got repeated and quickly found its way here and then Ace started using it in headlines. Shortly thereafter, Andrew Breitbart branded all his sites with "Big" things which I always assumed was a play on that joke.

Over the course of the next few years, I started seeing it pop up in various forms and various places, even from lefties themselves. Now it's just sort of an accepted meme. Never before that, though.

Posted by: America for the Last Two Years at August 19, 2018 02:46 PM (uEbPt)

97 frightened the dog so much in ran out into the road where it was flattened by a passing car.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM (AcZtS)



That's definitely horrible.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:47 PM (lwiT4)

98 Freakin sock

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 02:47 PM (uEbPt)

99 My horse fell off a mountain road. Not only lived but was able to do the 50 mile ride the next day.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 02:47 PM (cLj/v)

100 frightened the dog so much in ran out into the road where it was flattened by a passing car.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM (AcZtS)



That's definitely horrible.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:47 PM (lwiT4)

It was the only time I ever saw my Uncle cry.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 02:48 PM (AcZtS)

101 One time I hung out and drank adult beverages with Ronnie James Dio at the Rainbow Bar and Grill in Hollywood. There were at least ten guys douchebags stomping around singing Rainbow and Sabbath lyrics while he smiled and laughed. He never had a harsh word for anybody.

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 02:48 PM (CdLX2)

102 You probably won't believe this, but my Victorian sex toys talk back to me sometimes. Then I punish them for being naughty.

Posted by: Dr. Fern at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (2NqXo)

103 True story. Back when I was young and dumb in the 80s. I had a 1975 Honda Civic great cheap car. Anyways me and some friends drinking at my families cabin in the woods. Thought it would be fun to explore the logging trails in the Civic. At one point during our adventure the car gut stuck. Then someone said it was bright out tonight. The brightness was from the fire
(due to a puncture in the gas tank and lit by backfiring muffler) caused by 4x4ing a Civic down logging trails. No one was hurt and it didn't start a forest fire. And while dragging the bunt out shell of my Civic back to our property. We had to winch the 8N tractor across two streams the Civic crossed.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 02:50 PM (kG2lj)

104
I went in bought a $5 scratch off and went back to my car and started scratching.
I won $100.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 02:44 PM


I believe it. Every time I'm completely 100% positive I have the universe completely figured out... God throws some random craziness my way that throws me off the trail.

I like the fact he/she/they has a sense of humor. I may just need it some day.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:50 PM (LOgQ4)

105 I renewed my drivers license last week.
Dreaded it.
Went in to the DMV and was done in 10 minutes.
No shit!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:39 PM (0tfLf)


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a bullshit story winner for the thread. You people are going to have to work to bet this one.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 02:43 PM (9BLnV)

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No, I actually believe this, because I have done it. Went to a brand new Driver Services office at 2:30 in the afternoon. Spent 5 minutes on their computer, then took a number. Was 2nd in line. Gave the lady my ID stuff. She entered a few more things, then printed out my temp license. Out the door.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 02:51 PM (I16G8)

106 I saw Donald Trump order the Kremlin to find Hillary's missing emails so I had him wiretapped. Again.

And charged with Obstructing a Punchline.

Posted by: J. Brennan, Gus Hall's Joke Police at August 19, 2018 02:51 PM (Ndje9)

107 Another true story:

One night in the ER we had a fantastic trauma case: Florida Man had ingested a wide variety of recreational substances, driven his car at high speed, went airborne, and took out some power lines while crashing into a pond. He'd then been dragged to us in terrible shape, literally missing an arm and a leg. The leg arrived at the same time he did.

The arm showed up a little later, brought in by police. It was even more mangled than the leg and the officer who brought it in explained that one of the officers on the scene had recovered it from an alligator.

We had to digest that for a second. One of our local cops had taken time out from securing the accident scene to jump into a pond with a downed power line to fight a hungry alligator for its prize with his bare hands AND WON.

Florida Cop is even more hardcore than Florida Man.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:51 PM (d0Ce4)

108 So there we were, me and the Woof, minding our own bidness sitting at the end of the tarmac on the ramshackle airstrip at Peshawar figuring we were done -- the rebels had taken the Governor's palace and were moving on the radio station and the airstrip would obviously be next; we could already hear small arms fire in the distance -- when, all of a sudden, Shorty comes running up and says an old beat-up Dakota was at the other end of the airstrip and getting ready to take off -- the last plane out of Peshawar. I gave Shorty one of the gold bars and told him to get us on the plane. A minute later, he waved to us so we grabbed the weapons cache, the duffel bag full of gold bars, the two nuclear physicists, the five Swedish nurses (Ingelise was always my favorite) and the box of contraband pork chops (Woof loves pork chops) and hustled down to the plane. By this time, 76mm mortar fire was starting to land all around the airfield. We got down there and I threw Woof on the plane, then Ingelise (she was always my favorite) and the other Swedish nurses, the two nuclear physicists, the gold bars and the weapons cache and Woof's pork chops. Just as they were hauling me aboard, a mortar shell landed several yards away and that's how I got this five inch scar all along my knee. The rest of the trip to Srinigar was a breeze.

Posted by: AytchMan at August 19, 2018 02:51 PM (AEtcC)

109 All my true stories are really damn depressing, and I'm not great at composing fiction.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:52 PM (NWiLs)

110 I'm actually not dead.

Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

111 I have met and shaken Jack Nicklaus' hand twice, once in 1968 in San Antonio, when he was the Golden Bear, and then again in 1986 in Augusta, when he won the Masters for the last time, though it was on Saturday, and not after the amazing Sunday round that won him the title.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

112 All my true stories are really damn depressing, and I'm not great at composing fiction.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:52 PM (NWiLs)



C'mon -- remember that one time you voted for Trump? eh?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:55 PM (lwiT4)

113 110 I'm actually not dead.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

Not buying it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:55 PM (NWiLs)

114 Sleep paralysis. Sorry it isn't a more exciting term
Posted by: hogmartin


A sleep-cycle disorder. I've had it happen a few times.

Mentally, you're moving from "REM sleep" to "awake".

Physiologically, you're still in REM sleep. One of the effects is a three-pack of neurotransmitter inhibitors, which do paralyze your skeletal muscles (except, for some reason, for your eyes). They keep you from thrashing around and injuring yourself while you're dreaming.

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 02:55 PM (P1f+c)

115 AytchMan at 108.

Now that's a real BS story. I've been to Peshawar and there's no way in hell you could get pork chops there for Woof.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:56 PM (0tfLf)

116 C'mon -- remember that one time you voted for Trump? eh?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:55 PM (lwiT4)

I remember. Who knows if it even got counted.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:56 PM (NWiLs)

117 Cute story to no one but me. Watching the Cubs play the Pirates the other night on MLB. The Pirates announcer sees a fan wearing a Cubs jersey that says on the back (where they put they player's name and number) - well anyway, it said "RAIN DELAY 16". The announcer had no idea what it meant.


Seriously.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:57 PM (lwiT4)

118 One night, Gal Godot came to me and said "Rather than make 'Wonder Woman' I want to divorce my husband and marry you, Mr. Patriot, to make you a happy, happy man."

I told her "The movie industry needs you more than me and I must spurn your sexual advances."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (OBcoN)

119 I'm a compensated endorser and spokesmodel for Big Eyebrow.

Posted by: Justin Trudeau, CEO, Brezhnev Eyebrows, Inc. at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (Ndje9)

120 C'mon -- remember that one time you voted for Trump? eh?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 02:55 PM (lwiT4)

I remember. Who knows if it even got counted.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:56 PM


Yeah, it didn't. He voted straight (D). When we got through, that is.

Posted by: George Soros at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (LOgQ4)

121 110 I'm actually not dead.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

Good one!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (CE6iV)

122 One time I hung out and drank adult beverages with Ronnie James Dio at the Rainbow Bar and Grill in Hollywood. There were at least ten guys douchebags stomping around singing Rainbow and Sabbath lyrics while he smiled and laughed. He never had a harsh word for anybody.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 02:48 PM (CdLX2)

I believe it. There are A FEW celebrities who know they are fortunate for being where they are in life and let the little annoyances that go with the territory just roll off their back...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (y8Foj)

123 I once admired a girl from afar and never mustered the courage to even talk to her.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:59 PM (NWiLs)

124 I would tell a story or three, but, I'm quite sure everyone's first thought would be, "No one can be that stupid," and, well, I prefer not to confirm that which is probably already suspected.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 02:59 PM (WEBkv)

125 I told her "The movie industry needs you more than me and I must spurn your sexual advances."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot


*****

So you're saying I got your cast off???

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 02:59 PM (0tfLf)

126 119 I'm a compensated endorser and spokesmodel for Big Eyebrow.
Posted by: Justin Trudeau, CEO, Brezhnev Eyebrows, Inc. at August 19, 2018 02:58 PM (Ndje9)

All we have to do is ask Palp to see if that's true or not.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

127 Lovitz, a liar? Pfft.

Actually, I can't get over the resemblance of Thurm's mannerisms/persona to Rosenstein's.

Posted by: Nathan Thurm at August 19, 2018 03:00 PM (CDGwz)

128 A college roommate of mine was an enlisted man in intelligence in Germany in the '70s. His job was to listen in on routine East German military radio traffic. Strictly small potatoes. But every Christmas he'd get a Christmas card from the Kremlin just letting him know they knew who he was.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 03:01 PM (+y/Ru)

129 For nearly as long as I can remember I never wanted to be me.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:01 PM (NWiLs)

130 There was this one time, when I was staying at an apartment close to McGill University...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 03:02 PM (xSo9G)

131 I suck at this. True story.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:03 PM (NWiLs)

132 This isn't a story so much as a fact that I just recently had confirmed.
We've all heard of six degrees of separation between you and a famous celebrity, but I have one degree of separation from President Trump.
A guy that owns the business down the street from ours, someone I've known for years, attended the New York Military Academy with President Trump. He showed me pictures and letters--including one from about ten years ago inviting this guy up to Trump Tower to say hello.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 03:03 PM (y8Foj)

133 For nearly as long as I can remember I never wanted to be me.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:01 PM (NWiLs)



Two weeks ago at my biological father's funeral, a long-lost cousin came up to me and said, "When I was little, I wanted to be you. Not, I wanted to be LIKE you. I actually wanted to BE you."


I'm a better actress than I thought.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:03 PM (lwiT4)

134 All my true stories are really damn depressing, and I'm not great at composing fiction.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:52 PM (NWiLs)


All of mine are only entertaining if you were there, or are still secret, or are dumb and only I think they're funny. Or else pretty mundane compared to what lots of other people have experienced. I was in a coma for nine days from blood loss and I while I was out I went swimming with my grandpa when he was my age in a river in Poland. Then I woke up and was convinced for a few days that I was being held as a POW by the Canadians, evidence being that I was in restraints (I kept pulling out the feeding tube and IVs), wearing red wooly socks (so the nurses knew not to let me talk them into trying to let me escape) and I was guarded by people in green uniforms (scrubs) some of whom carried Tim Horton's cups. The end.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:03 PM (y87Qq)

135 Two weeks ago at my biological father's funeral, a long-lost cousin came up to me and said, "When I was little, I wanted to be you. Not, I wanted to be LIKE you. I actually wanted to BE you."


I'm a better actress than I thought.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:03 PM (lwiT4)

Wow.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (NWiLs)

136 I worked with this guy who used to be in logistics for the Air Force missile command at Mcguire AFB in NJ. He had these stories ...

The 2nd best ...

Being in missile logistics, he had to run an inventory of spare parts periodically. In order to take the printout from the line printer and place it in a locked box, he was required to have crypto-clearance. The fighter jockey officer he served under only had top secret. One day his officer demanded to be allowed into the printer room, but not having the crypto-clearance, he refused. His officer made a real scene of it banging on the door. The MPs arrived and the matter was sent to the base CO, who ripped the officer a new one.

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (e8kgV)

137 So one time this dude had a vampire wife sucking his lifeblood away but he was praying for his marriage to last. I got the call when the big guy was busy and put divorce into the vampire's head while the guy was at least still walking. Sometimes I wonder if he made it, but I don't dare ask the big guy since I acted w/o authorization.

Posted by: outlaw angel at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (cLj/v)

138 I'm actually not dead.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 02:54 PM (cAnNx)


*snif*

*poke with stick*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:05 PM (y87Qq)

139 As Mary Travers was leaving a concert, I realized that she was going to pass by me. I slyly extended my left elbow so that it brushed her left breast as she went by.

I didn't wash it for a week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 03:05 PM (xSo9G)

140
Two weeks ago at my biological father's funeral, a long-lost cousin came up to me and said, "When I was little, I wanted to be you. Not, I wanted to be LIKE you. I actually wanted to BE you."


Sounds like she was planning to kill you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:05 PM (HkNlg)

141 All my true stories are really damn depressing, and I'm not great at composing fiction.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:52 PM (NWiLs)


Dude. My mom died in a one car crash on my 40th birthday.

She had been in the process of having dental implants put in, and had kept the gold crowns, gold caps, and amalgam fillings. She had had a mouth-full of them. We found them in a drawer, she apparently hadn't gotten around to selling them for the melt value. I mean, that was a shock, having Mom's smile in a sock drawer.

She had opted to be cremated, so by step-brother brought her to the cemetery in the saddle bags of his Harley. He said that she had been bugging him for a ride, which he had been reluctant since she was in her 80's and he was worrying about putting the bike down with her on it.

To save money, we brought the post-hole digger, and I pulled the tarp out of the back of my Honda to put the dirt on to keep a tidy site.

I mean, really, it's funny now. Time heals wounds, and lets you see the punchlines.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 03:05 PM (2K6fY)

142

You are kinda cool, tho.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (HkNlg)

143 128 A college roommate of mine was an enlisted man in intelligence in Germany in the '70s. His job was to listen in on routine East German military radio traffic. Strictly small potatoes. But every Christmas he'd get a Christmas card from the Kremlin just letting him know they knew who he was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 03:01 PM (+y/Ru)

-------------------------

Read a Reader's Digest story years ago that was similar. Guys in Russia knew they were being bugged on New Year's eve, lifted a toast to their listeners and mocked them a bit, a bit later, the phone rang and the only sound of a bottle being poured into a glass.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (WEBkv)

144

That reminds me, last week I saw this bumper sticker on a Minivan:

I Used To Be Cool

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (HkNlg)

145 Sounds like she was planning to kill you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:05 PM (HkNlg)



Which would have been a kindness.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (lwiT4)

146 I once made an informative and well thought out post on Ace of Spades.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (dNzKv)

147

Anyone else feel like that? That you used to be cool?

And getting old sucks?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (HkNlg)

148
In my late teens a friend suggested we fly halfway across the planet. Being young and stupid with a few bucks in my wallet I agreed. Jet lag is a bitch. You're halfway across the planet, walk into an obscure bar really late at night and one of the penultimate sports figures of all time is sitting on the stool.

My friend walked up to him and blurted out some fan stuff. I was simply in shock.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (LOgQ4)

149 Read a Reader's Digest story years ago that was similar. Guys in Russia knew they were being bugged on New Year's eve, lifted a toast to their listeners and mocked them a bit, a bit later, the phone rang and the only sound of a bottle being poured into a glass.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (WEBkv)


Comrade Major really likes that story.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:08 PM (y87Qq)

150

And what is "cool" today isn't really Cool, at all? It's just Stupid? And you are still cool?

Or is it just me?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:08 PM (HkNlg)

151 78 you lie

Posted by: renowebb at August 19, 2018 03:08 PM (irc3O)

152 Kindltot - oh geez. Oh wow.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:09 PM (lwiT4)

153 Read a Reader's Digest story years ago that was similar. Guys in Russia knew they were being bugged on New Year's eve, lifted a toast to their listeners and mocked them a bit, a bit later, the phone rang and the only sound of a bottle being poured into a glass.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (WEBkv)

Russians are crazy and fatalist , but they also have a dark sense of humor. I bet that many of them envied us.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 03:09 PM (y8Foj)

154 Two weeks ago at my biological father's funeral, a long-lost cousin came up to me and said, "When I was little, I wanted to be you. Not, I wanted to be LIKE you. I actually wanted to BE you."
Posted by: grammie winger

Sounds like she was planning to kill you.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Wait... grammie is Iowahawk's cousin?

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 03:10 PM (P1f+c)

155 Jim Kinnier, Pat Murphy, Richard Salmon and John Diorio are all spinning in their graves over what young Andrew has done with the education they gave him.

Posted by: Fox2! at August 19, 2018 03:10 PM (jMG5u)

156 That reminds me, last week I saw this bumper sticker on a Minivan:

I Used To Be Cool
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:06 PM (HkNlg)

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My little brother's wife wears the pants in their family. Right up until their first kid was born, he had a Harley Fat Boy. From the hospital, she made him sell it so they could buy.....a Honda Odyssey.

He has never lifed that one down.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (I16G8)

157 I once posted here sober with pants on.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (kG2lj)

158 Wait... grammie is Iowahawk's cousin?



Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 03:10 PM (P1f+c)



Could be. I've known him to visit Kenosha.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (lwiT4)

159 I was doing a project at the Conde Nast building in Times Square, home of magazines like Vogue, when I passed right by Anna Wintour, the real life Devil Who Wears Prada.

So I said to Anna, Love your suit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (1UZdv)

160 I was about eleven, growing up in a small town of about 1200 folks in Western Kentucky. It was in late summer and, as usual, and I was walking home from the ball field at dusk. I would head down to the field as soon as I got in the morning and wait for someone to show up. Most days we would have enough kids for as least a good practice, if not a game.
Anyway, it was barely light enough enough to see trees and telephone poles silhouetted against a dim skyline as I and a buddy were nearing my house. Just at that time a bird, a dove as I recall, flew up from the left roadside. I was carrying my bat at right shoulder arms so I assumed a good firing position and went "phew".
The bird burst into a ball of feathers and dropped to the ground. Every hair on my body stood on end. I looked at my buddy and all I saw were the wide whites of his eyes staring back. When composed, I walked over to where the bird lay and was almost clothes-lined by the same guy wire that it had hit.
True story


Posted by: Javems at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (hKXB0)

161 I had a between deployment fling with the first runner up ms. Emersum from the San Diego over~the~line tournament. 88 or 89.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (xutw/)

162 147

Anyone else feel like that? That you used to be cool?

And getting old sucks?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (HkNlg)

Not exactly. I never felt that I used to be cool. Life sucks, and getting old especially sucks.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (NWiLs)

163 I knew people were suffering in Bosnis so I decided to bring some food and medical.supplies in. Shot my in. Shot my way out. But it was worth it if I brought a smile to the face of one child.

Posted by: Hillary! at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

164 I started my grandson shooting hoops when he was two years old on a plastic hoop using a tennis ball. He got so good at it that no one could beat him at horse. When he was nine, he started organized ball. I never missed a practice, but his grandma had health problems. As he warmed up for practice, he came over to me & asked me how grandma was. I told him she was at home with diarrhea. He answered, "Grandpa, are you trying to tell me that while I'm out here shooting hoops, Grandma is home shooting poops?"

Posted by: Frank T at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (XxjA5)

165 I saw Ray Charles in the airport in Reno once.I nearly bumped into him.

He didn't see me.
True story.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (8iiMU)

166 penultimate sports figures

"Penultimate" doesn't mean "more awesome than 'ultimate'", it means "second-to-last".

Unless you're talking about someone who nearly lost every NASCAR race he was in...

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 03:13 PM (P1f+c)

167 For a year or so, I'd wake up saying a guy's name. I could never remember the dream behind it, and I knew no one by that name. One night I awoke sobbing that man's name. I was so annoyed and frustrated, I yelled: Who the f is That Name?!?***About 6 months later I met a guy and he took me to his fam's house. He intrnduced me to his sister, who then turned to my date and addressed him by That Name.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 03:13 PM (O98j8)

168 Hi, my name is Mike Hausfrau and I'm a severe conservative Republican. I'm so Republican that I think Fred Phelps won't get into Heaven because he was a registered Democrat, and no amount of Holy Queer stomping is going to get that black mark off your soul. I'll never vote Democrat, because I don't want some commie New Yorker getting in my face telling me I can't marry my cousin Bonnie. We have 3 lovely children, Glenda, who has a great smile even with a cleft pallet, Jeff whose a little slow, but not chink lookin' retarded, and Cleetus whose right foot only has 3 toes, but that's OK, 'cause he'd probably shot them off by now if they weren't missing in the first place.
Anyway, now that the lead smelting plant is gone, I'm outta work and money is tight. So we do our own doctoring. And they said my years of cooking meth would never amount to anything. I'll tell you my special blend moonshine will kill any of those microscopic buggers you poor it on. When it burns you knows its workin. Heck, it'll degrease your combine too!
Anywho, we had to pull one of Cleetus' tooths the other day, so I decided to add it to our homeschool lesson on the space program. So we tied the tooth off to our Aerotech model rocket, at let fly. Faster than you can say "Houston we have a problem" the rocket exploded and took Cleetus' tooth with it. Unfortunately the force of the blast also dislocated his jaw, and gave him 1st degree burns on his frontside. Since dousing in my special blend just set Cleetus to smoldering, Bonnie insisted we take him down to the hospital.
I took him to Doc Johnson's, but he wouldn't take Cleetus because he didn't have enough fur. I said "But it done burned off!" and Doc Johnson said, we'd have to take him to a hospital for people. So I said "Fine!" and drove him down to St. Luke's with all them rosary rattlers.
So we get down there, and I tell 'em we don't have much money, with the meth heads switching to Krocadil and all. And they say "No problem. Just sign up for Obamacare"
And I say what's an Obama?
And they said "Its free health care"
So I say "what's the catch?" And they said "Do you pay taxes? and I said "Hell no!" and they said "No catch".
So now Cleetus got his jaw wired up, Glenda got her face fixed, but Jeff's still slow so there's that. But thank the Good Lord for Obamacare! Wait...whatdya mean the President's black? That's unpossible!

Posted by: AsTrueAsACA at August 19, 2018 03:13 PM (EyFCU)

169 From the hospital, she made him sell it so they could buy.....a Honda Odyssey.

He has never lifed that one down.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 03:11 PM (I16G


Well, it's a nice van. So there's that.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:14 PM (y87Qq)

170 Russians are crazy and fatalist , but they also have a dark sense of humor. I bet that many of them envied us. Posted by: JoeF.

My dad says Cubans are like that, too.

Posted by: Justin Trudeau, CEO, Brezhnev Eyebrows, Inc. at August 19, 2018 03:14 PM (Ndje9)

171 One of the engineers I worked with at Nasa had one of the strangest stories I ever heard. He said that there was a baby in the neighborhood that freaked everyone out. While only a couple of months old it was able to speak full sentences in English and carry on conversations with the adults around him.


The story has a happy ending; 20 years later he was still able to speak in full English sentences and carry on conversations with the adults in the room - but nobody seemed freaked out by him any longer.

Posted by: An Observation at August 19, 2018 03:14 PM (le57Z)

172 I knew people were suffering in Bosnis so I decided to bring some food and medical.supplies in. Shot my in. Shot my way out. But it was worth it if I brought a smile to the face of one child.
Posted by: Hillary! at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

I was glad I was there to fire cover for you.

Posted by: Brian Williams at August 19, 2018 03:14 PM (y8Foj)

173 In my late teens a friend suggested we fly halfway across the planet. Being young and stupid with a few bucks in my wallet I agreed. Jet lag is a bitch. You're halfway across the planet, walk into an obscure bar really late at night and one of the penultimate sports figures of all time is sitting on the stool.

My friend walked up to him and blurted out some fan stuff. I was simply in shock.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 03:07 PM (LOgQ4)

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I was sitting in a bar in Minneapolis a couple of decades ago, looked over, and Tom Clancy was sitting with a blond bombshell at a table. I did a double-take and the bartendress laughed and said, "yes, it is and he'd prefer to be left alone."

I'm not big on bothering celebrities when they're out enjoying a meal so, wasn't a problem.

Another time, more than a few decades before I turned 29, I was working in a restaurant and, much to my surprise, Paul Benedict was sitting a table with a very good looking and busty young lady.

In the back we were trying to figure out whether it really was Paul Benedict and one of the guys said it had to be because, not good looking guy, very good looking younger woman.

Consensus was it was he. And, the restaurant in question did get the odd celebrity now and again.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:15 PM (WEBkv)

174 On the way home the weekend my horse fell off the road I had a flat tire on my p/u right in the city. Three angels, one a State Patrol officer, helped change the tire, and they took off before I could even thank them let alone offer cash.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:15 PM (cLj/v)

175

For years I couldn't sleep with the closet door being open, wherever I was. Because that would let the Monsters out in the bedroom while I sleep.

I still do it today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:15 PM (HkNlg)

176 I have an Angel story, but it makes me look bad, so I'll keep it to myself.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:16 PM (lwiT4)

177 I kept Hillary from going to Wisconsin.

Posted by: Zionist Redneck at August 19, 2018 03:16 PM (i4jWn)

178 ...and when I got home there was a hook hanging from the car door handle!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2018 03:17 PM (gC2IV)

179 Polliwog, that is so sweet!! Y'all have heard my good stories that I am allowed to talk about. The rest are classified, so...

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2018 03:17 PM (V+V48)

180

looked over, and Tom Clancy was sitting with a blond bombshell at a table. I did a double-take and the bartendress laughed and said, "yes, it is and he'd prefer to be left alone."

I wouldn't be able to pick Tom Clancy out of a lineup.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (HkNlg)

181 I kept Hillary from going to Wisconsin.
Posted by: Zionist Redneck at August 19, 2018 03:16 PM (i4jWn)

Nyet. That was us.

Posted by: OMG! Russians! at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (y8Foj)

182 Well, it's a nice van. So there's that.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:14 PM (y87Qq)

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Yeah, it was. We used to do a draw at Christmas for the adults, so we had just one gift to buy. That year my brother in law got my brother. He got him a straight gift, but also got him.....a skirt. Many laughs were had.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (I16G8)

183 I wouldn't be able to pick Tom Clancy out of a lineup.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (HkNlg)


Well not now.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (y87Qq)

184 Back years ago I was riding passenger in a company truck near the King Ranch, South Texas, with my buddy driving, just about sunrise, we'd been up all night. And a long ways still to go. Well we saw this poor dead dog in the middle of the 2 lane road, he'd been hit. Buddy decided best thing to do was just straddle him with the tires, road was too narrow to get to the side. Well he was must mostly dead, not all the way dead, because just as we were upon him that poor old dog lifted up his head and looked straight at us. A second later we heard the "Thump!" and figured well, at least we put him out of his misery. Kept smelling a weird burnt smell, so about an hour later we stopped for a gas at a little station in a little town along the way. Popped open the hood - and there was that damn dog's head, jammed in between the motor mount and the engine, looking up at us, with his tongue hanging out. Not the whole dog, just the head, like it had been cut off with a knife.

Buddy looked at it a second, didn't say much, just went up to the kid at the register and said "hey you got a broom?" Kid said sure, and so he got the broom, stuck the handle down there and knocked the head out onto the concrete below. Then he took the broom back and said to me "get in we're leaving." I said Huh? he repeated "Get In, We're Leaving." So we took off, and I have always wondered about the next person after us who pulled up to that pump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:19 PM (V2Yro)

185 "Penultimate" doesn't mean "more awesome than 'ultimate'", it means "second-to-last".

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 03:13 PM


I screwed that up, obviously. Not sure where Wilt Chamberlain would reside on anyones list. Being from the Philly area, he was near the top of a short list which would include perfect game pitcher Jim Bunning, Mike Schmidt, Larry Bowa, and Pete Rose.

Maybe I was correct.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 03:19 PM (LOgQ4)

186 Crap. Paul Benedict, "The Jeffersons" upstairs British neighbor.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:19 PM (WEBkv)

187 I advised Sarah Jeong to go there.

Posted by: Colin Powell at August 19, 2018 03:20 PM (D4BQa)

188 Grammie Winger, "punctuated equilibrium"

Life goes on, we get a massive dump of crap that we get the feeling that even Job would say, "whoa" and then we make life normal again.

To paraphrase Mark Twain, at times life is like falling over a wheelbarrow. Every time we think we have reached the end, we have a bit further to go.


Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 03:20 PM (2K6fY)

189 When I was a child, I would sometimes see a dark, swirling mist in the shadows of the hallway at my house. It felt menacing and sinister. Sometimes I would have recurring nightmares of a dark and shadowy figure standing over my bed. I chalked it up to over active imagination, until years later I started talking about it for some reason and my brother confessed he'd witnessed the same things.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

190 Nyet. That was us.

Posted by: OMG! Russians! at August 19, 2018 03:18 PM (y8Foj)
I saw your Facebook ads. You didn't do squat. Might be time to lay off the vodka flavored borsch.

Posted by: Zionist Redneck at August 19, 2018 03:21 PM (i4jWn)

191 i remember when ace told us his story about being in the woods with his friends and one of them got scared, so they all got scared and started running.

i still lol at that. i just did.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2018 03:21 PM (Tm+wy)

192 Consensus was it was he. And, the restaurant in question did get the odd celebrity now and again.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman


The Skyway bar on Hennepin?

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:21 PM (kG2lj)

193 Ace's real name is Marty McFly.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2018 03:22 PM (m54Mo)

194 193
Ace's real name is Marty McFly.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2018 03:22 PM (m54Mo)

Nah, it's Allahpundit.

Posted by: Zionist Redneck at August 19, 2018 03:22 PM (i4jWn)

195 ONCE I TYPED A LOWERCASE LETTER, WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE I CANNOT PERCEIVE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 19, 2018 03:23 PM (AcZtS)

196 Where's StuckOnStupid when you need him?

Posted by: Smash'em at August 19, 2018 03:23 PM (4A5fG)

197 Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)



I have thoughts.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:23 PM (lwiT4)

198 196 Where's StuckOnStupid when you need him?
Posted by: Smash'em at August 19, 2018 03:23 PM

Man, that guy sure could spin a yarn.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:23 PM (NWiLs)

199 Posted by: McDirty at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (HCh/n)

Did you ever talk to her again?

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2018 03:24 PM (kiSdp)

200 about your shadowy figure I meant to say before the ice tea made my hand slip

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:24 PM (lwiT4)

201 196: He was there with the feel good tale back when we really needed it in the dark months of Demonrat rule.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:24 PM (cLj/v)

202 Insomniac, I remember that saga. Did he make all of that up??

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2018 03:25 PM (V+V48)

203 I once woke up, had a decent day and nothing shitty happened.

Once.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 03:25 PM (T71PA)

204 200 about your shadowy figure I meant to say before the ice tea made my hand slip
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:24 PM (lwiT4)

I figured, but it did help to elaborate.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

205 Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:12 PM (d0Ce4)\

I found a 4' long black snake in a drain pit that had to have traversed over 100' of 4" drain pipe followed by 50' of 2" PVC. He was very happy to be released into the wild, as he could never escape from that pit on his own! So I rate your story believable.

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 03:25 PM (n9EOP)

206 I did not have sex with that woman.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 19, 2018 03:26 PM (AcZtS)

207 202 Insomniac, I remember that saga. Did he make all of that up??
Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2018 03:25 PM (V+V4

Can't say for certain, but I believe he did.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:26 PM (NWiLs)

208 "That's the Content"....where is your ticket...JUSTIN your other pants?...so you are Trudeau,the cartoonist or the Maharajah impressionist one. Canucks wanna know?

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 03:26 PM (5IHGB)

209 So what are your thoughts? I've considered two main theories: the presence of actual evil, or psychological manifestations of constant childhood trauma.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (NWiLs)

210

Murder She Wrote is on.
bill maher is in this episode. What a creep.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (HkNlg)

211 The Skyway bar on Hennepin?
Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:21 PM (kG2lj)

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No, left coast restaurant located in a small fishing town. Well, it was fishing town at the time.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (WEBkv)

212 An Observation

That baby might plausibly have been me; my mother told me that when she would make baby noises at me, I would clap and Google but not generally make baby noises back, which worried her. Then, when I was at a family dinner, my grandmother asked me an actual question directly and (very unexpectedly) got direct, grammatically correct sentences ("That's my daddy. I love my daddy.") which freaked everyone out.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (d0Ce4)

213 Went camping on my honeymoon (1st marriage, not the other two) in Montana. Husband-at-the-time comes out of the shower area and tells me he just met George Montgomery. Yes, the movie star. Or was.
Handsome man that George.

Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (sBDDH)

214 I remember that saga. Did he make all of that up??

Posted by: Moki



Oh THAT guy?!? That one went on for days and days! I started getting suspicious when the girlfriend started posting.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (lwiT4)

215 My brother, who is a very loquacious sort, butt-dialed me one time and on the message kept repeating "Madison Street", like he was in the back of a car, maybe giving directions?

So the next day when I talked to him, I decided to play a little joke. Like he's one of these that probably believes in ghosts and stuff, and it scares him, but he won't really admit it? He's not a hardcore skeptic or anything and he's not religious, but he talks pretty tough and likes to feign like he doesn't believe in anything. So this was going to be a very brief and very inoffensive joke... or so I thought.

So I'm on the phone with him for about five minutes and then I tell him I have a call coming in, and then made him wait a minute. This was in the days of Call Waiting. I put the phone down for about 60 seconds. When I got back on the phone, I tell him that this is going to sound ridiculous but it was my wife's crazy "psychic" friend Phil who said the absolute stupidest thing to me.
He had heard of Phil a few times, and he knew that my wife had some crazy friends who were all just... crazy.
So I told him that Phil said, "Are you on the phone with your brother right now? I have a message for him. Two words."

He goes "Yeah?"
So expecting him to react with a "that's weird" or "that's spooky" or "that's crazy" or even "oh geez, was that you I butt dialed yesterday?", I said to him:
"Madison Street".
Instead of a normal or somewhat surprised reacion, I got a parade of:
"HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING! WHAT THE FUCK! HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT!"
When he finally settled I asked him what it was. "HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! ARE YOU KIDDING? WHAT THE FUCK! WHAT. THE. FUCK."

Then he explains that he went to the Bulls game last night and it was his first date with this girl and he thought that maybe they hit it off okay but this fucking totally cinched it!!!

"HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT! HOLY FUCK! HOLY SHIT!"

I couldn't say anything. I couldn't tell him. I didn't have the heart. How could I tell him? How the fuck could I tell him? I couldn't. I just... couldn't.

They got married 18 months later.

Posted by: Guy at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (uEbPt)

216 213 Went camping on my honeymoon (1st marriage, not the other two) in Montana. Husband-at-the-time comes out of the shower area and tells me he just met George Montgomery. Yes, the movie star. Or was.
Handsome man that George.
Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (sBDDH)

So your husband was meeting handsome men in camp showers?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (NWiLs)

217 On the way home stopped at the Canal Blvd grocery store in New Orleans and checking out with 1 can of diet soda was John Goodman.

Saw John Goodman at the post Muses parade party.
His wife was a member of the Mardi Gras Muses.
Dr John was the 2 hour entertainment. John sat alone at a table and enjoyed the fun.

The grocery drowned in Katrina. We floated outta town to Cowtown. Damn. Flood insurance is a very good thing indeed.

Posted by: d9 at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (WX+x0)

218 207 well, he should be writing for a living. He kept us rapt for a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Moki at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (V+V48)

219 Oh, forgot to add, I'm older than I look.

Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (sBDDH)

220 So what are your thoughts? I've considered two main
theories: the presence of actual evil, or psychological manifestations
of constant childhood trauma.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (NWiLs)



Physical manifestation of presence of evil

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:29 PM (lwiT4)

221 Giggle, not google.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 03:29 PM (d0Ce4)

222 psychological manifestations

of constant childhood trauma.



Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:27 PM (NWiLs)



Nope.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:30 PM (lwiT4)

223 Physical manifestation of presence of evil
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:29 PM (lwiT4)

I don't discount it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:30 PM (NWiLs)

224 Sometimes I would have recurring nightmares of a dark and shadowy figure standing over my bed. I chalked it up to over active imagination, until years later I started talking about it for some reason and my brother confessed he'd witnessed the same things."

My brother and I had similar experiences, in our old house when we were very young. Later after we'd left we tried to convince each other it was just our imagination. More people have seen stuff like this than will admit it - the shadow people.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:31 PM (V2Yro)

225 Oh, forgot to add, I'm older than I look.
Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 03:28 PM (sBDDH)


You look marvelous.

Posted by: Fernando Llamas at August 19, 2018 03:32 PM (T71PA)

226 223: And you said you couldn't tell an interesting tale Insomniac, that one is pretty darn hair raising.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:32 PM (cLj/v)

227 Neighbor, the nurse, has the best story.
Man came into the ER with an injury from playing horseshoes. Seems he wasn't able to pound the rebar stake into the ground with his 2x4 hammer, so he laid the board across the top of the rod and used his body weight to pile drive it into the dirt. Unfortunately, the rebar did not go into the ground, but it did split the board and literally tore him a new a-hole. The staff at the hospital took their time getting him into surgery so that everyone on staff had a chance to see him before he got unimpaled.

Posted by: Conor Macleod at August 19, 2018 03:33 PM (4KA7J)

228 This is an absolutely true story that I could swear to under oath in court: I once had breakfast with Anna Nicole Smith.
I really ought to leave things there - in fact I think I will.

Posted by: An Observation at August 19, 2018 03:33 PM (le57Z)

229 Nood

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:33 PM (cLj/v)

230

Next movie thread, we can discuss that scene in Big Jake, and all the movies that copied that scene.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (HkNlg)

231 I invented Al Gore and his rhythms..............

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (5IHGB)

232 I don't discount it.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:30 PM (NWiLs)

---------------------

Real life tends to be much more interesting than fiction.

Stuff happens in real life that if one tried to include the incident in a work of fiction, it would be dismissed out of hand as too farfetched.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (WEBkv)

233 That is a 100% no bullshit story too. There's actually a bit more but is gets even weirder.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (NWiLs)

234 128 A college roommate of mine was an enlisted man in intelligence in Germany in the '70s. His job was to listen in on routine East German military radio traffic. Strictly small potatoes. But every Christmas he'd get a Christmas card from the Kremlin just letting him know they knew who he was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

*****

Had similar experience while stationed at a place in Turkey, up on the Black Sea.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (0tfLf)

235 I'm actually not a fish.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (AcZtS)

236 Giggle, not google.
Posted by: Locarno


Don't be evil

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (S6Pax)

237 I voted Republican, had sex with Donald Trump and made him a sandwich after were done.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein at August 19, 2018 03:35 PM (OBcoN)

238 Nood
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:33 PM (cLj/v)


Where?

You can't just yell nood in a crowded thread.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 03:35 PM (T71PA)

239
Nood

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable


/tips hat

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:35 PM (HkNlg)

240 DUDE, I can on this thread /s

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 03:35 PM (cLj/v)

241 Insomniac, were you ever baptized/christened?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (CE6iV)

242 When I was a semi-delinquent teen in The Bronx we would go into the local cemetery at night. The Bronx back then was known for wild things, and we had Santeria and other weird worshipers around.

While badly buzzed, we chanced upon a votive shrine on a grave, centered on a severed goat's head. We thought it fun to toss the head at each other, using the horns, until we collectively realized that whoever put it there might still be around.

Did I say there was a full moon ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (1UZdv)

243 I used to work in nursing and home health care. One of my patients was an ancient black guy somewhere in his 90's, very kind and down to earth.

One day, while I was working with him, because of something in the news, I asked him what he thought about UFO's. He clammed up and didn't want to talk. I finally got him to tell me what was bothering him. He was ashamed and convinced I would laugh at him, but sincerely believed that he had once seen a mermaid come out of the ocean onto the beach.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (jq0/v)

244 So a guy is driving his wife to a scheduled C-section. Problem is, he's a illegal alien wanted for murder in Mexico. When ICE grabs him, the #VeryFake News reports "Monster Trump Makes Pregnant Woman Drive Herself to Hospital!" instead of "Trump Complies With Request From Mexican Authorities, Ushering In New Era of Cooperation".

Probably stripped him of his security clearance, too.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (Ndje9)

245 I'm actually not a fish.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (AcZtS)


Do you like fish sticks?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (y87Qq)

246 True story: I was dating Lovitz's best friend when he did this show. We had drinks that night, I think. I thought Lovitz was sort of fat at the time, but now I think he looks trim.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (Z48ZB)

247 I have the biggest, grithiest penis on the internet.

Now to make up a story.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 03:37 PM (/tuJf)

248 241 Insomniac, were you ever baptized/christened?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (CE6iV)

Yes.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:37 PM (NWiLs)

249 My ex FIL would make a trip every year to Nebraska with several of his buddies t go pheasant hunting. They had been gone for about a week and were due home that day. I was finishing up chores when a pheasant flew into the indoor arena and perched on one of the rafters in the arena. On a lark I picked up a rock and chuncked it at the bird and knocked it to the ground where my Australian shepherd jumped on it and held it there so I could grab the bird and wring its neck.
I carried the bird home to add to the hunters collection. They had not gotten one bird in a week.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2018 03:37 PM (dEFp1)

250 Next movie thread, we can discuss that scene in Big Jake, and all the movies that copied that scene.


Which scene?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 03:37 PM (yQpMk)

251 I still have my security clearance.

Posted by: John Brennan at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (AcZtS)

252
Insomniac, were you ever baptized/christened?

I have a follow up question:

Is your name Damien?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (HkNlg)

253 Giggle, not google.
Posted by: Locarno

Don't be evil
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (S6Pax)

---------------

They had just ONE job......!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (I16G8)

254 I lived and worked in a third world shit hole in South America for a couple years. I had been out working in a remote area working with friend for a few days and was desperate to get back to town for some edible food, drink, shower and rest. Daily bus was due in the afternoon so waited patiently on the side of the muddy road for a couple hours until it finally arrived.

Turned out the bus was even more packed that usual. Aisle was filled with adults, kids,babies animals and not one more person could be packed in as people were already hanging out the door. The bus driver, who we knew, said we could sit on top of the bus with the luggage and chickens if we wanted. We gladly accepted and climbed up. The three hour ride back, despite the wind and drizzle, was far better than hellish the conditions inside which I was too familiar with. Even with dodging the low hanging branches SOB driver was getting a good laugh from.

Posted by: Ripley at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (MxEKc)

255 Sometimes I would have recurring nightmares of a dark and shadowy figure standing over my bed. I chalked it up to over active imagination, until years later I started talking about it for some reason and my brother confessed he'd witnessed the same things."

My brother and I had similar experiences, in our old house when we were very young. Later after we'd left we tried to convince each other it was just our imagination. More people have seen stuff like this than will admit it - the shadow people.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:31 PM

Holy crap this made me think of a similar incident when I was around five years old. It was around dawn. I woke up, it was still dark in the bedroom but then I saw a shadow. It had a round head (like a Smiley-Face from the 70's). I started moving my arms around and sitting up/lying back down. It copied all my moves. I screamed for my mom who of course said, "No, you don't have a shadow that shows up in the dark." Oh yeah?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (2NqXo)

256 Any man that calls a false Nood spends the night in the box.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (yQpMk)

257 I'm actually not a fish.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 03:34 PM (AcZtS)

Do you like fish sticks?
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 03:36 PM (y87Qq)

No.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (AcZtS)

258

Which scene?

The scene in the beginning when he saves Col Krittendon from hanging.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (HkNlg)

259

er, or Dr Bombay

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (HkNlg)

260 My father was in a bar in Florida when a guy came in with a Labrador Retriever.
The bartender said, "We don't allow dogs in here!"
The dog's owner said "But this is a talking dog and he should be allowed to stay!"
The dog said "I believe my owner has a most cromulent point and I think you would look ridiculous throwing the only talking dog you are likely to ever see out of your establishment!"
The bartender said "OK, he can stay!"
My father then struck up a conversation with the dog's owner and found out that the owner had fallen upon really hard times and was willing to sell the dog for $50. My father thought how can I possibly loose on this deal, I can make a circuit of nightclubs with a talking dog and make the $50 back many time over.
So my father said, "It's a deal, I'll buy the dog and here's your $50!"
The owner took the $50, counted it to make sure it was right, and said "All right, the dog is yours!"
As my father took the dog's leash, the dog looked at his former owner and said with scorn "Wretch, you have sold me! Just for that I'll never speak another word."

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (n9EOP)

261 228 This is an absolutely true story that I could swear to under oath in court: I once had breakfast with Anna Nicole Smith.
I really ought to leave things there - in fact I think I will."

If you were around Mexia Texas when Anna Nicole was in high school, all you had to do was go to the Dairy Queen where she worked - only DQ in town. I traveled through there a few times in those years, figure I probably ran into her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (V2Yro)

262
I was stuck at a busy airport once, big delays, big crowds, so I got a seat at an airport dive, bought some chips and drink. Another dude sits down, and I start eating, then he takes one of my chips, I thought weird but whatever. I eat one and then he looks at me at eats another. I thought ok this is strange, so I eat like 6 at once, then he eats a bunch, and just when I was gonna say 'WTF dude' he gets up and leaves. What a weirdo!

Then I go to get my laptop out and I see my bag of chips. I was eating his!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (r+sAi)

263 Me and my little brother, Billy Ray was born and raised in a dusty little West Texas town where the government schools were so bad Momma wouldn't let us go to school and kept us home. When we was little we followed Momma everywhere she went. When she fed the chickens, ducks, and geese we helped. When the little babies hatched out, they imprinted on Me n Billy Ray, and Momma, and our dog Rustler. It was common to have flocks of chickens and ducks and geese follow us around everywhere we went. When they were little babies, they would shelter with us every time we sat down somewhere. Poor Rustler gave us a look every time as if to say, "Why did you do this to me?" He would be surrounded by baby chicks or baby ducks. Even after they was growed they follow us everywhere.

'Cuz Momma wouldn't let us go to government school, she had to teach us our letters and numbers, and then teach us to read, and she always gave us study assignments on the things we had to know to manage our farm. At first, we helped in the garden, so we had to learn all about plants and stuff. Then we had to help her with canning and preserving.
Poppa worked in the oil patch when he could, and Momma would manage the farm with hired help. When there wasn't any work in the oil fields, Poppa managed the farm and we followed Poppa around and did what he did, and he gave us study assignments on machinery, engineering, accounting, and taxes. Poppa hated taxes and once we started doing the Environmental Impact Statements, and Income Taxes, we learned to hate the government as much as Momma and Poppa did.

We took our High School Equivalency Test when we was fifteen, two years early, and started in on college course work in advanced math and engineering. We had our college degrees two years earlier than anyone else our age and we knew more than the other kids in our dusty little town.

Poppa died in an oil field accident about two years later when a well head blew out, and it broke Momma's heart. We were pretty shook up about it when Momma died less than a year after Poppa. We worked the farm a couple more years and then the Immanel Drive was invented. We sold everything and went into space as crew on a Merchant Freight Hauler. We were pretty familiar with computer networks 'cuz that's where we did all our studying and such. We left Earth behind and never looked back. That is how we ended up doing forty years in the Merchant Space Fleet, and that is how we ended up here on this mudball where dinosaurs rule and humans hide in caves.

...

Yes, they are sentient. The one Billy Ray is friends with is named 'Big Roady.' Billy Ray gave him the name because they really don't have names themselves. You can wave at him, and he'll wave back. They were curious about us when we first started setting up our station and watched everything we did. Billy Ray said they were just curious, so I didn't worry about it. I insisted on the electrified fence 'cuz I thought they would eat our cows and horses, but Billy Ray says that Big Roady has scent marked our homestead as his territory.

The big lizards don't often fight because something that big can do a lot of damage. Mostly it is a lot of head noddin' n hissin' and stuff like that. The big lizards are really energy efficient; they don't move if they don't have to. You ever see any of those big river crocodiles from Old Earth? Ya, they don't move much. Usually they just float in water or hide in the swamp and wait for their next meal to show up.

I saw a vid once, where there was a big river croc just below the surface, or just out of the camera frame, and this little gazelle or some such was trying to drink the river water. You could see the little gazelle was very cautious about something; might have been eye to eye with that croc. Anyway, the croc makes a lunge that was faster than you can blink, but the little gazelle was quicker and escaped.

Our big lizards are a lot like that. They don't chase their food; they wait for their food animals to present themselves to be eaten. The lizards won't move more than a body length or so, just like that river croc.

You ever eat mudnuts? Ya, well some people like'm and some people don't.

...

Ya, Billy Ray, I see'm. Looks like they are trailing smoke; probably had to redline the engines to outrun the big wings and now they are cooking the transmission. They will be lucky to get on the ground before the thing catches fire. I'll go talk to them. No, you young'uns stay here with Billy Ray. You'll get your chance to meet them later.
...

Who is in command here? Master Sergeant Wu? He's in charge of this screw up? What happened to the Major? Fell back to rear guard while you ran for it. Well that explains everything. I hope you brought plenty of food; we're not an agricultural station. For one, it is too far from the settlement. Just how do you expect to get back to the settlement? That machine will never fly again. Changing out a cooked tranny is a depot level repair. No such repair capability 'round here.

How the hell did you get it this far? External Drop Tanks! So you don't have enough fuel if the damn thing could fly! Well, I never.

Professor Sterling, I tolt you not to come out here, and I tolt you we couldn't feed all y'all.

Science my left front foot! Oh, that's just a local expression. You could have done your damn science much closer to the settlement. Of course you do. We're the first humans to make a deal with the locals. The big lizards! They own this environment! We can live out here because we've made friends with some of the smart ones. Big Roady is ok, but Junior is a handful; don't mess with him. He is still trying to win a place in the command structure and it makes him dangerous to be around. It's not just the big guys. Everything out here eats something. Big Roady won't eat you; says he doesn't like the metallic taste, but the younger ones haven't learned that yet. No, it's all the gear all y'all carry. Gives them an upset stomach.

Well, let me draw you a picture. The toads are stupid; just stay away from them. They can't eat raw mudnuts, but if you carry some with you, the stink calls in the many-legs. Mudnuts? Itsa tuber; grows in the mud. Many-legs? Your worst nightmare. Camp? Here is as good a spot as any. Nope, Billy Ray doesn't want you near the place.

Mind your camp sanitation. The water table is pretty high here and boil your drinking water. You need to build your shelters three meters above ground level. Well it floods during the rainy season. High Ground? How are you going to get all that gear to high ground? Ya, sure. One last flight out of that machine and what are you gonna do if it crashes and burns with all your gear onboard? You were lucky the pilot could get it on the ground before the tranny caught fire.

...


Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 19, 2018 03:41 PM (XeN7w)

264 When I was a first year grad student, a fellow student begged me to lend her $100 so she could take the train home to see her mom, who had just been diagnosed with cancer.
No one else would or could help her.

I had $125 or so dollars in my account, so I could ill afford to lose the money even temporarily, but her distress seemed genuine to me.
So I gritted my teeth and gave it to her.

She went down to a pawn shop, bought a pistol, and blew her brains out.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)

265 As a teen I used to run the gas pump at a small airport in Vancouver WA. One day a beautiful Aero Commander came in and the pilot asked for fuel. It was Arnold Palmer.
I top off the tanks and went inside to do the credit card.
Everyone there was wanting to talk golf but he asked if anyone could tell him about the local fishing.
We chatted for almost 15 minutes.
Very cool guy.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0tfLf)

266 Dang Ace. I was with you, but, damn bro, yall done crossed the line with the "ampersand utility." Not only do you have to disavow yourself and your attitude and response, you need to grovel at the temple of Squak with the other non uber menschen who have fatally crossed the line of (leftist) dogma, distaste, and utter bullshit. Pls Pls Pls - I prefer my left autophagy with tapatio, kosher bacon, and Jack Daniels - Shaken NOT stirred -Pls. Otherwise, wtf! Only the shadow knows for sure. I'm sure you are as welcome as a burr in the saddle to one and all leftists. Keep up the stellar anti-troll trolling !!!

Just sayin'!

Posted by: Ray at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (AVxHd)

267 252
Insomniac, were you ever baptized/christened?

I have a follow up question:

Is your name Damien?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:38 PM (HkNlg)

Heh. No, it's not. But my mother would essentially accuse me of being the root of all evil, in various ways.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (NWiLs)

268 there is a common belief that children can see ghosts/spirits/etc and most lose that as they grow up.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:43 PM (CE6iV)

269 Guy Mohawk: I have a similar story, but it involved a Nissan Murano.

I was at a mall and went to leave. I got into a black Murano and the key didn't fit in the starter.

I looked around and my briefcase was missing from the front seat. I panicked and then realized I was in someone else's black Murano.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2018 03:43 PM (OBcoN)

270 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)



Oh my gosh.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 03:43 PM (lwiT4)

271 Then I go to get my laptop out and I see my bag of chips. I was eating his!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (r+sAi)


Winner!

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 03:43 PM (T71PA)

272 I had $125 or so dollars in my account, so I could ill afford to lose the money even temporarily, but her distress seemed genuine to me.
So I gritted my teeth and gave it to her.

She went down to a pawn shop, bought a pistol, and blew her brains out.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)

Her distress was genuine even if her story was false.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:44 PM (NWiLs)

273 he had once seen a mermaid come out of the ocean onto the beach. Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs

I once saw Kate Winslet's boobs come out of the ocean onto the beach.

Posted by: Leonardo DiCrap...Decapp...DiBlas...DaVinci at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (Ndje9)

274 260 My father was in a bar in Florida when a guy came in with a Labrador Retriever.
The bartender said, "We don't allow dogs in here!"
The dog's owner said "But this is a talking dog and he should be allowed to stay!"
The dog said "I believe my owner has a most cromulent point and I think you would look ridiculous throwing the only talking dog you are likely to ever see out of your establishment!"
The bartender said "OK, he can stay!"
My father then struck up a conversation with the dog's owner and found out that the owner had fallen upon really hard times and was willing to sell the dog for $50. My father thought how can I possibly loose on this deal, I can make a circuit of nightclubs with a talking dog and make the $50 back many time over.
So my father said, "It's a deal, I'll buy the dog and here's your $50!"
The owner took the $50, counted it to make sure it was right, and said "All right, the dog is yours!"
As my father took the dog's leash, the dog looked at his former owner and said with scorn "Wretch, you have sold me! Just for that I'll never speak another word."


Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (n9EOP)



That there was a clever ventriloquist.

Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (cAnNx)

275

Her poor mom with cancer must've been horrified. Sad.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (HkNlg)

276 There's some medical terminology for that type of event. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 02:34 PM (LOgQ4)

Sleep paralysis. Sorry it isn't a more exciting term
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:36 PM (y87Qq)


I used to have those dreams a lot in college. It is awful...absolutely terrifying.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (WEFox)

277 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)

omg how horrible
depressed suicidal people can be totally selfish a-holes

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (CE6iV)

278 My dad was a big Dale Earnhardt Senior fan. I didn't like him so we would always argue about it. I spent about a week at his house about twenty years ago. He had an African grey parrot. Whenever I was alone with the bird I kept repeating "Earnhardt sucks". I didn't think it was working. Parrot never said anything. A couple of days after I got home the phone rings. I picked it up and the first thing I hear is "What the fuck did you do to my bird?"

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (xPl2J)

279 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)

I'm at a loss for words...

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 03:46 PM (AcZtS)

280 "She went down to a pawn shop, bought a pistol, and blew her brains out."

But you got the gun, right?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 03:46 PM (1UZdv)

281 After seeing Lena's latest nudes, I finally made up my mind to ask her out. Next thing I knew, we were jetting to Moscow for a pee-party at one of my favorite hotels.

Having held my water for the entire trip, I was of course quite eager to begin. Upon entering the crowd, I immediately withdrew my sporty spout, and let forth upon her large doughy torso. As she undressed, I directed my sparkling shaft in an "interlace" pattern, much like that in a TV "cathode-ray tube." Hot and ample, this drenching yielded an even coating, yet I was also able to apply touches of deft splash in all the right places. The relief was ecstatic.

"Ohhh!" she squealed. "Such a forceful dousing!" Yes, the velocity, distance and volume were impressive indeed, thus I would soon need to throttle back so as to preserve 75% capacity for the long night ahead. "Yes Lena! And you are such a big target, I fear I may not be adequate!" Replenishing myself with a few liters of the foulest Russian champagne, I leisurely sought my next aim-point.

Modesty prohibits me from sharing the remaining tale of that night's golden delights. I will never forget my last sight of her, plump, moonlit and glistening in the puddle on the parquet, smiling with satisfaction wetter than she had ever known. Alas, I could not tarry, for news of my performance had already reached Bill Kristol, and I had to respond quickly to his summons, in order to catch his cruise at the first port of call.

Posted by: Celebrity Pee-Party Confidential! at August 19, 2018 03:46 PM (mk9aG)

282 When I was a junior in high school a friend had an old Volkswagen beetle. One night while drinking, 4 of us decided to go and visit his sister at Carnegie Mellon. We lived in suburban Pittsburgh. We get down there around 11 and his sister who was a freshman wants no parts of high school boys. We drive around the city, still drinking in the car until around 1 am. We're driving back while the shithead who owns the car decides that we should go 4 wheeling. There is a couple of acres on a hillside where people rent little plots of land to grow gardens. That is where we end up. Instead of following the roads, said shithead drives straight down through the gardens, off of huge dropoffs. We are bouncing all around the car, beer cans flying around. Nearly rolled the thing 4 times. No idea how we didn't suffer some damage that night. Ahh the '80's.

Posted by: Timon at August 19, 2018 03:46 PM (h3t5U)

283 Everybody pretends like there's nothing going on, but let me sound the alarm: we are constantly pelted with high-energy particles, the origin of which is unknown.

Some source is flinging fast nuclei, electrons, gamma and x-rays at Earth. The nuclei crash into our atmosphere, showering us with muon shrapnel.

What're muons, you ask? They are elementary charged particles 207 times more massive than electrons, hitting our soft mushy defenseless bodies at a substantial fraction of the speed of light, hundreds to thousands a minute.

What're gamma rays, you ask? They are very high-energy electromagnetic radiation more powerful than x-rays. In 774AD, we received a burst of gamma rays so intense that it changed the chemistry of our trees and rocks.

And don't even get me started about meteors and bolides.

Now, the eggheads will try to tell you this cosmic barrage comes from black holes, or magnetars, or some other "natural" phenomena. Yeah, right!

The sinister character of this relentless onslaught can mean only one thing: some foul enemy is shooting at us. Does it not behoove us to shoot back?

I don't know yet whether the many salvos of 30cal that I have fired at the moon have reached their target. Actually, there is considerable doubt that these so-called "cosmic rays" even come from the moon. All I know is that it's the nearest, easiest-to-hit celestial target, and I need to do my part.

I fear I am, so far, alone in counter-attacking. Around me I see only people strangely unconcerned about this relentless relativistic cannonade. I exhort them all to arm themselves with knowledge of the threat, particle detectors, weapons to return fire, and courage to squarely face the foe, as have I.

Posted by: Cosmic-Ray Coverup! at August 19, 2018 03:47 PM (mk9aG)

284 I was playing in my backyard one day (about 9 yrs old) and saw a squirrel walking the fence line. I threw a rock just to scare it but hit it square in the head and killed it. Oddly my older brother was taking taxidermy classes at the time. So that squirrel sits at our cabin above the fireplace.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:47 PM (kG2lj)

285 I don't understand the point of this thread.

Posted by: Brian Williams at August 19, 2018 03:48 PM (OBcoN)

286 True Story.

My dearest friend, now dead, worked at St. Patrick's Cathedral as Sacristan, (rather like a Stage/Props Manager, for those who don't know the term). He stood six foot one and dressed immaculately, and enjoyed both his public and private duties.

Of course, St. Patrick's has many visitors, and he enjoyed interacting with them. One of his favorite things in life was to treat people exactly the opposite of what they felt they deserved -- meaning that he loved to exalt the humble, and bring the pompous down a peg or two.

It seems that the President (GWBush) was coming to town, and a Secret Service detail came to the Cathedral to survey and evaluate the security measures, and the lead of this detail was an extremely unpleasant and conceited fellow who was quite a pain in the neck to anyone around him - including his crew.

It was my friend's duty to take him where he wanted to go -- which was everywhere -- the altars, and the crypt, the dressing rooms, etc. And he insisted upon seeing the fuse box. So my friend dutifully led him to the fuse box and explained the setup briefly.

"This fuse is the circuit breaker for the main area, and if it blows, then THIS fuse is for the backup system." my friend said, helpfully.

"And what happens if the backup fuse also blows?" the Secret Service man asked.

"It gets dark." my friend deadpanned.

As you can imagine, there was much stifled merriment among the assembled company. No further questions were asked.

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at August 19, 2018 03:48 PM (bbLS2)

287 She went down to a pawn shop, bought a pistol, and blew her brains out.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM


Sometimes, late at night I watch some PronTube videos, just to find a face I don't recognize. I find the face, and next day look up the story. A beautiful girl, every door on the planet would open for her.

Ends up with a bullet in the brain. Time after time.

There's always more to the story then meets the eye.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 03:48 PM (LOgQ4)

288 285Those who the jokes on rarely get it

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (lxZ71)

289 depressed suicidal people can be totally selfish a-holes
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (CE6iV)

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Oh, that helps.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (ZCD4H)

290 Does it not behoove us to shoot back?
Well, we are hammering them with radio waves of "We Built This City" so its a fair fight.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (r+sAi)

291 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)

Oh shit that is terrible.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (kiSdp)

292 While badly buzzed, we chanced upon a votive shrine on a grave, centered on a severed goat's head. We thought it fun to toss the head at each other, using the horns, until we collectively realized that whoever put it there might still be around.

Did I say there was a full moon ...

Wow that is a great first scene of an awesome horror movie...

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (V2Yro)

293 Well, that went on longer than I intended. I cut out alot.

Now I gotta change my nic/hash outa embarrassment.

Don't taze me bro.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 19, 2018 03:51 PM (XeN7w)

294 It's all an act. I like girls.

Posted by: Shep at August 19, 2018 03:51 PM (xzqr4)

295 289 depressed suicidal people can be totally selfish a-holes
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:45 PM (CE6iV)

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Oh, that helps.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (ZCD4H)

LOL

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:52 PM (NWiLs)

296 I almost got kidnapped once. Mom was divorced from my dad and we were living in a run down house. I slept by the window in the 2nd bedroom. Middle of the night mom gets up and normally she didn't check on me (I was 9 so she figured I was okay)..but this night she did. Just in time to see some guy reaching for me. She screamed and he ran off. We moved a week later.. and no it wasn't my dad.. he was still back east. We were living in Texas.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 03:52 PM (dUJdY)

297 296 I almost got kidnapped once. Mom was divorced from my dad and we were living in a run down house. I slept by the window in the 2nd bedroom. Middle of the night mom gets up and normally she didn't check on me (I was 9 so she figured I was okay)..but this night she did. Just in time to see some guy reaching for me. She screamed and he ran off. We moved a week later.. and no it wasn't my dad.. he was still back east. We were living in Texas.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 03:52 PM (dUJdY)

Holy shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:53 PM (NWiLs)

298 As others have noted, as a very young boy, I sometimes saw a shadowy figure in my bedroom at night. I just rolled over in bed and like a good Catholic boy, said prayer after prayer, hoping I wouldn't be killed.

Decades later, four of my brothers said they had seen the same thing at different points in their lives...

True as shit.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 19, 2018 03:53 PM (pZox7)

299 280
But you got the gun, right?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 03:46 PM (1UZdv)
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Okay, okay.
That is semi-funny.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:54 PM (0jtPF)

300

Speaking of getting kidnapped, dog-theft is on the rise.

So Be Aware.

These rotten dog thieves use the stolen dogs for fighting or, even worse, for bait/training.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:54 PM (HkNlg)

301 298 As others have noted, as a very young boy, I sometimes saw a shadowy figure in my bedroom at night. I just rolled over in bed and like a good Catholic boy, said prayer after prayer, hoping I wouldn't be killed.

Decades later, four of my brothers said they had seen the same thing at different points in their lives...

True as shit.
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 19, 2018 03:53 PM (pZox7)

Damn. Maybe there's something to this after all.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:54 PM (NWiLs)

302 I'm allergic to pine pollen and bought a pine tree farm.

The End.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 03:55 PM (MVjcR)

303 I fear I am, so far, alone in counter-attacking. Around me I see only people strangely unconcerned about this relentless relativistic cannonade. I exhort them all to arm themselves with knowledge of the threat, particle detectors, weapons to return fire, and courage to squarely face the foe, as have I."

Had a pal who lived in a trailor park, heavily wooded area. One night at about 2 am everybody was woken up by the sound of 6 shots from .357 magnum, right in the middle of the place. They all ran out, and were met with the sight of an extremely large and dishevelled looking man wearing only his boxers, holding the smoking gun in his hand, starting up at the tree above him.

"Gawdamm Squirrels keep throwing nuts at my roof! I told 'em they better quit and they didn't!!!" was all he said.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 03:55 PM (V2Yro)

304 My late wife was chronically late for every event she ever tried to attend. Late for work, late for dinner dates, birthday parties, church, you name it. Honestly, it was a great source of friction for us for decades as I am a punctual man.

When she passed, I had the funeral home that my high school buddy ran with his father attend to her and the services.

The day of the service my buddy sent the limo to fetch me early and I rode to the funeral home. When I arrived, my buddy meets me at the door, says the appropriate things, and asks me to come to his office. He had a pained look on his face so I thought, hmmmm, somethings up. He told me that they had worked on her for two straight days and there were a number of things that had gone very badly and even with all his years experience took much longer than usual. He added that they got all the issues worked out but as a consequence of the troubles, he absolutely had to delay the service for two hours from the appointed time.

Yes friends, my wife was late to her own funeral.

True story.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2018 03:55 PM (9rIkM)

305 Many moons ago, back when I was a rookie patrolman and was greener than Aqua Man, I got a radio call to meet a woman involved in a Domestic Dispute out in the parking lot of our local shopping mall. Upon arrival, I contacted the distraught woman and she told me that her husband had locked himself in their pickup truck with their young daughter.

I then talked to the man that was sitting in the driver's seat of the truck. I asked what was going on and he said that his wife was a vampire and she wanted to drink their daughter's blood and he was protecting their daughter. The guy then breaks-off two pieces of the antenna of a portable radio and holds the pieces up in a cross. At that point I thought, WTF? and radioed for the Sargeant to assist me.

Sarge arrives on scene and starts talking to the guy. Sarge asks him how we could proove we weren't vampires and this guys says if we could hold "living wood" and the leaves don't wither and die, then we weren't vampires. So Sarges breaks off a twig from a nearby tree and says, "See? It's living wood. The leaves are still green -- that means we aren't vampires. The guy replies, "OK, you're not vampires but fvkc you, I'm not coming out."

Sarge and I regroup and make a plan: he's going to break-out the passenger door window and grab the girl while I break-out the driver's window and grab the guy. Plan goes off without a hitch and I pull the guy out and stand him up agains the truck. Well ... he starts to topple over to one side and I realize he only has one leg!

We "Pink Slipped" him for mental evaluation and the wife informs us that her husband had been attacked previously by a man weilding a machete and lost his leg in the attack. Ever since the attack, her husband had been mentall ill.

This is not a tall tale; it really happened exactly as I have written the account.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 03:55 PM (5Yee7)

306 I was at a mall and went to leave. I got into a black Murano and the key didn't fit in the starter.

I looked around and my briefcase was missing from the front seat. I panicked and then realized I was in someone else's black Murano.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot


There are only so many ways to cut a key. Number of teeth times number of different depths for each tooth. For a car key? That might only be a four-digit number. Five, if you're lucky.

A friend of my mother's had keys that both opened AND started a car the same make/model/color as hers.

She didn't notice she was driving the wrong car until she looked in the rear-view mirror and saw a kid's stuffed animal on the rear window ledge. I think she was able to get the same parking spot, so the real owner may have never known.

I would have backed it in, instead, to add a bit of surrealism to someone's life.

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2018 03:56 PM (P1f+c)

307 After working skinning buffalo for the AZ Game and Fish in 1976 at their annual buffalo hunt, I left with only a quick hand wash. My jeans were caked with blodd, there was dried blood on my boots and arms, and probably some streaks on my face.

Just outside Winona AZ on old Rt. 66, I burned up a rear wheel bearing in my 62 Ford Falcon. I removed the axle with a box end wrench, and started thumbing my way to Flagstaff to get a bearing.

This was unsuccessful.

No one would stop for a big 20 year kid, covered in blood, and carrying a long iron bar.

Until the Coconino County Sheriff pulled over.

He was unamused by my demeanor, accoutrements, and general serial-murderer appearance.

I explained my situation at gunpoint.

After he called the Game Dept. and verified my story, he gave me a lift to Flag, and back again.

I pounded the axle bearing on with a piece of pioe, and drove to Phoenix.

Posted by: retropox at August 19, 2018 03:56 PM (6Li50)

308 24 NTC is for you kids today.

Back in the Cold War, we were finishing up shooting at Grafenwhor. Waiting on the troopsa and NCOs to pack up the Fire Direction Center, we were standing in a small group near the S3's track. All of a sudden, WOMPH! Right in our midst a 155mm projectile landed. It was sticking about half way out of the ground.
Nobody said anything.
Nobody moved.
I quietly reached into my field jacket and pulled out a cigar. I offered one to the battalion commander and the command sergeant major. We lit up and stood there, each waiting for the other to make the first move.
True story.


Posted by: Diogenes

So far so good.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 19, 2018 03:57 PM (IeDO8)

309 *pipe

Posted by: retropox at August 19, 2018 03:57 PM (6Li50)

310 True story: July, 1974, I am on TAD assignment while in the U.S. Navy overseas. I drove a Soviet Army jeep from Africa to Asia. The trip took about 10 minutes. Wise readers will understand how that can be true. . .

Posted by: I Peaked Early at August 19, 2018 03:57 PM (zr3uM)

311 This happened years ago to older NYC rugby players I know.

Randall's Island sits in between Manhattan, Queens and The Bronx on the East River. The rugby field is on a tilted hill, so that a long kick can roll and roll right down into the river.

Which it did one day, so that the fullback found a floater.

I thought it'd make the best cold open for the old Law & Order.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (1UZdv)

312
True story:
Some lady tried to steal our dog. Dad just happened to be driving home and saw the lady put a dog in her car (near our house) so Dad followed her, and then forced her to pull over. Sure enough it was Karl Kleiner, our little Schnauzer!

Dad said she a few dog collars in her car...

Dad, who could be very scary, scared the shit outta her and let her go.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (HkNlg)

313 These rotten dog thieves use the stolen dogs for fighting or, even worse, for bait/training.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 03:54 PM (HkNlg

That's been happening in Detroit for years. When I used to live close to Detroit i was always irrationally afraid that would happen to my dog.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (kiSdp)

314 302 I'm allergic to pine pollen and bought a pine tree farm.

The End.
Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 03:55 PM (MVjcR)
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Oh, c'mon, Weasel.
The story is supposed to be true or at least credible.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (0jtPF)

315 "an extremely large and dishevelled looking man wearing only his boxers, holding the smoking gun in his hand, starting up at the tree above him." Such a man is fully prepared to fulfill his Earth Defense duty. Godspeed, Trailer-Man!

Posted by: Cosmic-Ray Coverup! at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (mk9aG)

316 I don't understand the point of this thread. Posted by: Brian Williams

Wiped. Like with a cloth, Brian.

Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at August 19, 2018 03:58 PM (Ndje9)

317 With all the stupid crap I did when I was young and drunk (sometimes sober). Looking back I am lucky to be here to comment on this thread.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (kG2lj)

318 Any alien abductions reported here yet? If not, I claim alien abductions.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (MVjcR)

319 Lost Spanish city found. In Kansas!

https://lat.ms/2wgWF5I

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (+y/Ru)

320
Shadowy figure, checking on children late at night? It was only when I woke up one night, with the burglar alarm blaring, standing outside of my front door that I realized I sometimes walk in my sleep.

I could swear on a Bible I don't do such a thing, but the evidence was pretty convincing.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (LOgQ4)

321 When I was in college a buddy and I decided to take a road trip to Middlebury College for their Winter Carnival. It's actually a pretty cool event with lots of parties and ski racing and general winter fun and games.

We brought sports coats in case we needed them to get into some of the parties but it was all pretty casual partying. Well we got bored and decided it would be a great idea to tell the kids at the various parties that we were potato farmers from Skowhegan Maine and we were working a deal with the college to buy the land the college was on and plant potatoes. We would leave the buildings and let the college continue but every other square inch was going into potatoes.

We were there age, dressed in blue jeans and sports coats and at least as drunk as anyone there but almost to a person they bought it and were horrified. They spent hours arguing with us and begging us not to buy the place but we remained firm, it was going to be potatoes all the way down.

I think we traumatized a few coeds. I like to think so anyway.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (/tuJf)

322 Passing by, had to stop to read some.

A friend and I saw a UFO about Midnight, July 4, 1976.

Not that interesting. Too long to type out on the cell.

But he had just been telling how his brother and friends had been chased through countryside in Arkansas a few days earlier by a UFO.

Ours didn't chase us. Just flew by. Slowly. No noise except in the quiet night we could hear the whoosh of it thru the air...

Posted by: mindful webworker's cell at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (utimh)

323 "OK, you're not vampires but fvkc you, I'm not coming out." I LOLed!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (mk9aG)

324

It was a weather balloon.

Posted by: US Air Force at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (HkNlg)

325 Whoever tells the best true one that sounds ridiculously farfetched

Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: The Horde at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (czQnf)

326 189 When I was a child, I would sometimes see a dark, swirling mist in the shadows of the hallway at my house. It felt menacing and sinister. Sometimes I would have recurring nightmares of a dark and shadowy figure standing over my bed. I chalked it up to over active imagination, until years later I started talking about it for some reason and my brother confessed he'd witnessed the same things.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)


Well, that's super creepy. Did you ever research the history of your house or the land to see if anything bad had occurred there?

Of course, you could have made this story up since that is the kind of thread we are doing.

Crap, I just remembered my dream from last night. I thought I was in church, but there were signs of evil things around...but my vision was blocked, so I couldn't see everything. Suddenly, I could. Then I realized I was at some evil type of church gathering that was worshipping something evil. I ran, and this guy started pursuing me in a purple porsche with black detailing. Then I thought, these guys are all such shysters...stealing people's money.

Based on stuff I read this week, it is easy for me to see where this dream came from.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (WEFox)

327 Insomniac.. not the only time I had a close call. Two other times in my life it was God or whatever someones version of that might be, that practically screamed in my ear DON'T DO THAT! Both times.. if I hadn't listened I have no doubt I would not be here right now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (dUJdY)

328 One night back in the late 60s after a night of drinking driving thru SW Philly smoking some fine weed when a cop pulled up behind us.

I'm panicking and my friend just keeps on driving.

FINALLY the cop took a turn.

Whew.

"I have paranoid delusions running thru my head !" I said.

My buddy said, "That's funny, I have gas."

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (T09ml)

329 Posted by: mindful webworker's cell at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (utimh)
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Please see #318.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (MVjcR)

330 FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (lxZ71)

331 Freshman year at college, living in the dorm. We had a pretty tight group on the floor I lived on that regularly partied together so everyone knew each other pretty well. Not far from campus is the Noxubee National Wildlife Refuge, which back then was a popular place to bruise around and consume adult beverages and other substances due to the isolation.

One night a pair of roommates from our floor are out riding around the refuge and drinking (heavily) when they see a buck standing in a ditch along the side of the road. This is where I mention two details: both of the guys are Cajun, and the truck they're in is an Izuzu Pup with a brushguard.
The guy in the passenger seat looks at his roommate behind the wheel and simply says, "You ain't got a hair on your ass, you don't hit that deer."
At about 1:30AM they're rolling down the hall in the dorm banging on doors and yelling, "Hey, y'all help us come butcher this deer!"
Our dorm had communal showers on each floor with six shower stalls. So about ten of us brought the carcass in from the truck, hung it up in one of the stalls, and proceeded to butcher the deer. The meat was divvied up amongst everyone with space in their dorm room mini-fridges.
The look on the janitor's face the next morning was priceless. I walked into the shower room and he was standing there with a bewildered look, obviously wondering if he should call campus security because of all the blood everywhere in one of the stalls. We told him what happened, gave him some backstrap, and that was the end of the Great Connass Deer Caper.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 04:02 PM (yzxic)

332 until years later I started talking about it for some reason and my brother confessed he'd witnessed the same things.

Holy crap.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:03 PM (dUJdY)

333 True story: July, 1974, I am on TAD assignment while
in the U.S. Navy overseas. I drove a Soviet Army jeep from Africa to
Asia. The trip took about 10 minutes. Wise readers will understand how
that can be true. . .


Posted by: I Peaked Early at August 19, 2018 03:57 PM (zr3uM)

You drove across the Suez Canal? That small section of Asia was occupied by Israel at that time, I think.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 19, 2018 04:03 PM (xPl2J)

334 This movie trailer seems over the top but I'll probably see it because I've got the warbird monkey on my back.?

https://youtu.be/vJkz1pEBqf8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 04:06 PM (+y/Ru)

335 We handed over all the emails.

Posted by: The DOJ at August 19, 2018 04:07 PM (n6bs1)

336 Based on stuff I read this week, it is easy for me to see where this dream came from.

Oh easily, you dreamed you were at a DNC board meeting.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:08 PM (V2Yro)

337 True story: July, 1974, I am on TAD assignment while
in the U.S. Navy overseas. I drove a Soviet Army jeep from Africa to
Asia. The trip took about 10 minutes. Wise readers will understand how
that can be true. . .


Posted by: I Peaked Early at August 19, 2018 03:57 PM (zr3uM)

First, we must start with the understanding that "TAD" is an acronym that stands for "Traveling Around Drunk". Then the rest makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 04:09 PM (yzxic)

338 I'll tell a little romantic vignette:
When I was working as a bouncer at a topless bar one of our dancers was a substitute dancer for the Houston Ballet. If somebody in the Corps got sick or injured or went on vacation they called her up to dance with the company. There are only so many slots for professional dancers, and when you have spent your whole life in dance and are right on the edge of being good enough - how do you support yourself? For her, dance was dance, a chance to perform on stage and hear the applause of the audience.
The girls would do two dances in each set - only the second one was topless. When I would hear her name called to the stage I would always go in and watch her dance her first dance. Since she knew I was watching she would always put a little ballet into her performance. She knew I would see it - even if no one else did. Then I would walk back outside into the empty dark, to let her dance for the customers.

Posted by: An Observation at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (le57Z)

339 Well thanks for this thread! It gave me a chance to post some stuff that I was _sure_ wasn't good enough for the ONT. Tough crowd!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (mk9aG)

340 "OK, you're not vampires but fvkc you, I'm not coming out." I LOLed!
Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:00 PM (mk9aG)


I tell that story to the young engineers that I now work with and it is pretty funny in retrospect. I hadn't been on the force for a year when it happened to me and at the time I was just following the Sergeant's lead.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 04:10 PM (5Yee7)

341 Of course, you could have made this story up since that is the kind of thread we are doing.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (WEFox)

Nope. 100% no bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (NWiLs)

342 Way back in the early 80's before we were a police state, cop often were lenient and would just let you go for things that today would land you in jail and ruin your life. One time, me and a couple of buddies were headed to Grateful Dead concert somewhere around Madison, WI, after driving from a massive party in Chicago the day before. Were were high on all sorts of things and had a small keg in the car we were working on as well. We were competently lost and my friend driving drunk, high and weaving. Cop pulls us over and asks where we were going and what was the problem We explained we were going to the Dead concert and completely lost. Cop actually gave us directions, a firm bitching out and as he was getting ready to walk away said in a strict voice:

"Oh, and untap that damned keg until you get to the concert. Please drive safley."

Posted by: Ripley at August 19, 2018 04:12 PM (MxEKc)

343 First, we must start with the understanding that "TAD" is an acronym that stands for "Traveling Around Drunk". Then the rest makes perfect sense.

There was a time back in College when me and some pals were on spring break and bar hopping in McAllen, Texas, and it wasn't until we saw a truckload of Federales with M-16's (luckily they weren't interested in us) that we realized that somehow we'd crossed the border. Well that, and suddenly all the roads were mud and there was a pig rooting around in the middle of an intersection.

Border security back then wasn't what it is now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:12 PM (V2Yro)

344 I was once refused service at a LBQGT bakery because no one could bake a fucking CAKE!!!

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 04:14 PM (5IHGB)

345 341 Of course, you could have made this story up since that is the kind of thread we are doing.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:01 PM (WEFox)

Nope. 100% no bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 04:11 PM (NWiLs)


Just wanted to be sure. I believe you. I've experienced too many things to doubt it. You should research your house history...see if something bad occurred there.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:15 PM (WEFox)

346 I could tell you an incredible true story that would win those steak knives. But then I'd have to kill you. All of you. And I don't have the time.

Posted by: hepcat at August 19, 2018 04:15 PM (5b+Sr)

347 I was attending college in Brainerd MN. And was going to meet up with family for deer hunting. My friends car breaks down so I am hitch hiking with a rifle in a soft case and an army surplus duffel bag. Was sure I wasn't going to get a ride. Right away a guy and his son pick me up but aren't going the full distance. They drop me off at where they needed to turn off the highway. Shortly after another car pulls over to pick me up. I joke how I was surprised anyone would pick up a guy carrying a rifle. The driver opens the center console and pulls out a pistol. And says I wasn't worried about you cased rifle because I have this.

Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 04:16 PM (kG2lj)

348 342 Beer is the life-blood of Wisconsin. I stay away during hunting season.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (mk9aG)

349 With all the stupid crap I did when I was young and drunk (sometimes sober). Looking back I am lucky to be here to comment on this thread.
Posted by: X-ray at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (kG2lj)


As I began going through my memories, I thought the exact same thing.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (WEFox)

350 This is all true:

The leading cause of death in America is...taking showers!

Here's how (short version):

Leading cause of death in America: heart disease and cardiovascular problems.

Leading cause of cardiovascular problems: Too much cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Until fairly recently is was assumed, mistakenly, then a high-cholesterol diet caused high cholesterol in the bloodstream. But it turns out that's not true -- diet only accounts for about 10% of bloodstream cholesterol.

But then what does cause it?

Well, the whole reason cholesterol exists in one's blood int he first place is to carry it to the tissues, which use the cholesterol to keep supple and bendable and soft. And the largest organ in your body, and by far the largest user of cholesterol, is you skin.

Your body converts the cholesterol to sebum, the oily coating on your skin, which keeps it supply, fends off infections, etc. etc. Without sebum, your skin would crack little brittle paper, you'd get infections and quickly dies.

But where does the other 90% of the cholesterol in your blood come from? It comes from your liver, which produces it naturally for this purpose.

Since sebum is oily, it does not come off much in day-to-day living -- at least for the last few million years. But the invention of soap, and the invention of running water and showers, allowed for the first time a new concept in human history: hot showers with soapy water.

As good as this may feel to do, it actually causes a major crisis in the body each time you do it: Using hot soapy water over your entire skin surface washes of ALL the sebum ALL AT ONCE, which causes you liver to go into overdrive to produce as much cholesterol as possible, which is pumps into the bloodstream,w here it is carried to the skin to make new sebum.

But then 24 or 48 72 hours later, you do it again -- another hot shower! And once again the liver goes into overdrive and make a massive amount of new cholesterol to replace all the stuff you washed off.

The end result of the 20th-century lifestyle is that your liver is ALWAYS in panic mode, ALWAYS pverproducing cholesterol, and thus your blood is ALWAYS overloaded with cholesterol -- which over time starts to clog up the arteries, cause heart attack and strokes, etc. etc.

All of this has by now been pretty much proven with all sorts of studies and experiments. But to no avail: medical scientists simply can't convince everyone to stop taking hot showers with soap. Ain't gonna happen.

So: We actually know the solution to the most pressing medical problem, but it's so socially unacceptable, no one would ever agree to do it!

Posted by: zombie at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (c+2jX)

351 Barack Obama is a Lightworker.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (5b+Sr)

352
Unbroken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrjJbl7kRrI

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 19, 2018 04:18 PM (XeN7w)

353 Ace's Phas3 shelves will be rated at 350 lbs. capacity each.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2018 04:19 PM (DMUuz)

354 Remarkably, those are the only conversations that we don't have on tape...

Posted by: Bob @ NSA at August 19, 2018 04:20 PM (9uM40)

355 Just wanted to be sure. I believe you. I've experienced too many things to doubt it. You should research your house history...see if something bad occurred there.
Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:15 PM (WEFox)

I've thought about that but probably wouldn't be worth the effort.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 04:21 PM (NWiLs)

356 Back in the summer of '80, me and my platoon o' Dragon gunners from Weps Co 2/4, blew up a demolitions range.

Destroyed it. Killed it dead.

We were surprised that the brass was surprised. What did they think was gonna happen when a 6x6 loaded to the max with demo is left for a bunch of grunts, with no adult supervision?

Posted by: Pugmak at August 19, 2018 04:22 PM (k6WlL)

357 Back in 78 or 79 I was working as a bike meseenger in NYC. One day going down 35th Street I passed Liz Taylor coming out of Macy's with a bunch of shopping bags. I darn near fell off my bike. She just gave me a funny look and laughed.

Posted by: JimK at August 19, 2018 04:23 PM (uAlm4)

358 I'm lucky to be here, tapping on this phone. I could have died when I was 4.

See, I grew up on a farm, and I loved going out with Dad. (At that age I didn't have to work.)

One day, Dad was towing the bush hog -- what folks in other areas call a brush chopper -- and I was riding on its PTO gearbox. The chopper wasn't running; Dad is no fool.

As Dad drove over a terrace, I tumbled onto the ground in front of the chopper's left wheel. I still remember seeing that wheel roll over my midsection. Surely I screamed, because Dad looked back and saw me lying there. He hustled me 10 miles to the hospital, where I stayed overnight. The diagnosis: no permanent damage.

However (and this comes from Mom), a guy in the next room was suffering from multiple wasp stings. He carried on so that after I was discharged, I never again wanted to go outdoors if it were possible for me to stay indoors. Thus, a farm boy became a committed bibliophile.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 04:24 PM (wDrsJ)

359 Wow.

Great thread.

Sorry I missed it.

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 04:24 PM (kknE9)

360 I met the Vikings running back Adrian Peterson three times and hung out with him once. On my 21st I drank with Justin Morneau, Joe Mauer and Joe Nathan. Those guys were super nice and wouldn't let me pay for anything.
I also almost got murdered at a strip club for inadvertently getting this broad kicked out who was paying for lap dances. I got over 20 dances that night paid for by her.
And Insomniac? My mother, may she RIP, and my father to THIS day said they saw a shadow person AT THE SAME TIME moving across their doorway. The shadow person looked at them, turned and glided into my bedroom. My pops ran to my room finding nothing but me wrapped in my blanket like a burrito.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 19, 2018 04:25 PM (IYHxL)

361 I just read the story from the UK about Stormy Daniels and the Big Brother Celebrity fiasco - as in that is a VERY funny story, where everyone involved gets what they truly deserve.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:26 PM (V2Yro)

362 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (r+sAi)

LMFAO

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 04:27 PM (uEbPt)

363
361 I just read the story from the UK about Stormy Daniels and the Big Brother Celebrity fiasco - as in that is a VERY funny story, where everyone involved gets what they truly deserve.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:26 PM (V2Yro)



Link?

Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 04:28 PM (cAnNx)

364 Wow.

Great thread.

Sorry I missed it.
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 04:24 PM (kknE9)

Me too...arrived at the tail end. I'm still reading the stories.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 19, 2018 04:29 PM (WEFox)

365
Oh, that helps.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 03:50 PM (ZCD4H)

I'm sorry, but it's true. All that inner pain makes them ignore the harm they cause others.

Like that guy who stole an airplane last week.
Or any of those people who throw themselves in front of a train - the train conductor and engineer can only watch helplessly.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 04:31 PM (CE6iV)

366 I was sitting in a bar in Minneapolis a couple of decades ago, looked
over, and Tom Clancy was sitting with a blond bombshell at a table. I
did a double-take and the bartendress laughed and said, "yes, it is and
he'd prefer to be left alone."
--------------------------------------

Oddly enough, and I am not shitting you... in 2013, of all thing I had a dream I met Tom Clancy in a restaurant. It was very vivid. I realized at the time that I was dreaming because I said to him, "I know I can' t be meeting you, you're dead."
I woke up and told wifey about it.

The only thing is it was September 2013 and Tom Clancy was very much alive. He died two weeks later.

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (uEbPt)

367 Stormy Daniels story from the Daily Mail (UK)

https://tinyurl.com/yc9vd5mf

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (V2Yro)

368 Zombie.. a doctor told me years ago to only wash my privates with soap and water every day. Leave the rest of the body alone. Just let the water run over it. Maybe once a week give yourself a nice soapy shower.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:33 PM (dUJdY)

369 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 03:43 PM (CE6iV)

There is absolutely something to this. Again my parents would swear on this story; As super young lad 3 or 4 years old my mom heard me talking in my room and assumed I was playing and pretending. I told my mom I was talking to my grandma who lived in the big house with lots of people and that her favorite food was egg noodles. Well my moms mom and grandmother were alive and asked if it was one of them, I said no and repeated the story.
When my dad got home my mom told him the story, he phoned up his father and asked him if his late mom/my grandma liked egg noodles. His father responded with "Oh your mother LOVED egg noodles!" apparently my dad went white because she died before I was born and there was no way I could have known that.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 19, 2018 04:34 PM (IYHxL)

370 You would not believe the stories I could tell.

That's why they call me 'bad luck' in Engrish.

Posted by: yùn qì bù hǎo at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (I9Sw7)

371 I don't get Stormy Daniels.

But Karen McDougal, yowzaa!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (1UZdv)

372 I once went shooting with Gary Coleman and his blind girlfriend. True story....I was at a now defunct outdoor range in Tucson, I was in the attached gunshop, and in stomps Coleman toting a suppressed sub machine gun. He was pissed cause it kept jamming. Eventually, back on the firing line, he asked to try my Remington copy .44, as he had never shot blackpowder before. I also helped his blind girlfriend shoot it....once. They were in Tucson doing some sort of animation for a video game company in Tucson, Running with Scissors. God's truth. I have video somewhere.

Posted by: jasonj at August 19, 2018 04:36 PM (LxKAY)

373 Tom Clancey wrote a book RAINBOW SIX its all about radical enviromentalists lead bya wealthy Eco-Wacko wanting to come up witha virus to wipe out all humans and watching the rewiling of the earth froma special enclosuer

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 19, 2018 04:38 PM (FLiOE)

374 Mrs. Burton and I met in Okinawa as young sailors in '73 when the military finally allowed women service members to be stationed there for duty. We were the second Navy couple to get married on the island, having just missed being first by two weeks. We would have been the first except that she had a terrible dislocation of her left kneecap and we had to delay the wedding for four weeks... which leads to the following sea story (of which every word is true, I swear).

We were attached to the Naval Security Group Activity at Hanza, on Torii Station Army Base. It was a month before we were due to get married and we were still living in the barracks. The navy had its own barracks for the men, but because there were only about five Navy WAVES on base they were billeted in the WAC shack (open bay style).

An apartment opened up unexpectedly when a shipmate got orders to ship off the island with 72 hours notice. We jumped on the apartment, and also bought his entire furnishings sight unseen. We went over late at night to inventory and were moving some of the furniture around.

Joan had a weak knee that she had dislocated several months earlier in boot camp, and while lifting the sofa it gave way again and twisted completely around to the other side of her leg. I ran out to start the car, but it wouldn't start. I hailed a passing cabbie to take us to the Army hospital.

When we got to the hospital they couldn't find the one person on the island who was qualified to put a cast on... and he wasn't answering his pager. By this time it was about one in the morning. They told Joan to just go home and they would fix her knee the next day. We were young and stupid so instead of putting up a fight and demanding a bed in the hospital, I called the duty officer and had them come to get us (fortunately it was her immediate supervisor).

We went back to the WAC shack and there was no way in the world that she could walk. Her knee was swollen to the size of a basketball. I went into the duty room and told the WAC duty sergeant what happened, and that Joan couldn't walk to her bunk. She said it was cool, that everyone was asleep and that I could carry her inside. She would go with us to make sure everything was okay. (Joan was looked upon as a kid sister by all the hard-bitten WACs. She was very sweet and innocent in those earlier days.)

I was carrying her in a cradle carry, and when I got to her bunk (open bay, remember) I swung her into it... and hit her knee right on the support bar for the upper bunk.

She massively jerked in my arms, and I fell and dropped her on the bunk. My arms were now trapped under her, I'm on my knees on the side of the bunk, and my nose is buried in her stomach. She's now moaning (loudly) "Oh, it hurts, it hurts so bad, why'd you do that," while thrashing back and forth on the bunk, and I'm going "Oh, I didn't mean it" over and over while trying to pry my arms out from underneath her along with ignoring what now felt like two broken kneecaps of my own.

In about ten seconds I was surrounded by over 100 WACs in various stages of night dress (and undress), with half of them with very nasty looking, sharp pointy items in their hands. The duty WAC was laughing so hard she couldn't pull herself together to explain what was going on.

I survived, which is why I am able to now tell the story, but if anyone asks, I can honestly say that I have seen the elephant(s) and it doesn't look pretty.

She got out after three active years, I did five active, and we both spent the next twenty in the USNR. If you ever meet Mrs. Burton please don't tell her that I told you the story. She is a little sensitive about it even after 45 years.

Posted by: Jack Burton at August 19, 2018 04:39 PM (A4zoG)

375 Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 19, 2018 04:38 PM (FLiOE)

I wonder if the original games represented that story?

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 19, 2018 04:40 PM (IYHxL)

376 Greetings:

So, I'm in the checkout line at the local Safeway supermarket and the woman ahead of me has the whole conveyor covered with her groceries and there's not a piece of meat in sight.

So, I give Joe, the checker, the high sign and say, "You know, Safeway should have a separate checkout line for vegetarians.". The woman turns toward me and gives up a kind of half-smile.

So, I continue, "That way I wouldn't have to worry about their vegetables touching my meat.".

Posted by: 11B40 at August 19, 2018 04:40 PM (evgyj)

377 367 Stormy Daniels story from the Daily Mail (UK)

https://tinyurl.com/yc9vd5mf

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (V2Yro)



Now that's funny. And yeah All are getting what they deserve. Honestly it seems like the stuff about the sets on the show they had made would have been mentioned in the negotiations.

Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2018 04:40 PM (cAnNx)

378 What wonderful stories!

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 19, 2018 04:41 PM (I9Sw7)

379 While attending the funeral of our beloved neighbors' Grandma, we followed her casket outside to the awaiting hearse only to see a dry spot on the pavement where the hearse HAD been. It had been sleeting and the driver had left it running while he ducked inside the church to get warm. Who the hell steals a hearse outside a funeral? A dude named Omar, apparently. He was busted a few hundred miles away for stealing a hamburger while driving the stolen hearse. Asshole took Grandma V's last ride. I have no doubt she prays for him.

Posted by: Lurketta DuBois at August 19, 2018 04:46 PM (fuWEF)

380 While working at a search engine directory, my fellow workers and I invented a new corporation. We called it: eVil. Everything back then was a small "e" before a word. We were very proud.

Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 04:49 PM (sBDDH)

381 Dad has a picture of John B Salling on his wall, it is a picture of a very old man in a fancy Confederate tunic in front of the Confederate Battle flag.

Dad had been a reporter at a base in Alexandria VA when he was in the Army in the late 50's, and there had been a report that one of the last three Confederate vets, John Salling, was turning 112 and had told a reporter that he didn't have his uniform anymore, and this caused him some distress.

Some of the WACs at the Pentagon, on hearing this, decided to sew him up a replica of Robert E Lee's tunic, and got a public affairs guy, my dad as a reporter, a photographer, and I think one of the WACs who did the sewing, to go down to Slant VA to present it to him.
Dad had gotten the word that Mr Salling would pay more attention if he was brought a bottle of something, and so they stopped and bought him a pint of peach brandy on the way. (Dad's comment was that Mr Salling put the first drink down very handily)

The drove down, up some very tough back roads, and spoke with him and presented him the tunic, took a picture and thanked him for his time.

Mr Salling was buried in it a few years later, dad heard of it in the news.

Dad says they stopped and spoke to the editor of the local paper when there, and the editor mentioned that there was some doubt about Mr Salling's claim. In the 1890's the Virginia legislature enacted a veteran's benefit for Confederate veterans, and if the papers were not available, all that was needed was for the vet and two other men who had been proved to be vets to swear an oath. Dad said that he was told that at that time every old guy came out to swear that oath.

The editor had told him that he figured Mr Salling was only 108.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 04:49 PM (2K6fY)

382 The guy that played Boy in the old Tarzan series lives around the corner from my cousin in Chula Vista.

Posted by: sally at August 19, 2018 04:50 PM (sBDDH)

383 Posted by: Lurketta DuBois at August 19, 2018 04:46 PM (fuWEF)

OMG!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 04:55 PM (dUJdY)

384 I once tried to give mouth to mouth resuscitation to my cat, who my dogs had gotten ahold of.

Posted by: doomed at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (w6Y4b)

385
Oddly enough, and I am not shitting you... in
2013, of all thing I had a dream I met Tom Clancy in a restaurant. It
was very vivid. I realized at the time that I was dreaming because I
said to him, "I know I can' t be meeting you, you're dead."
I woke up and told wifey about it.

The only thing is it was September 2013 and Tom Clancy was very much alive. He died two weeks later.


Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 04:32 PM (uEbPt)

I met Tom Clancy in a restaurant bathroom years ago when he was hosting his daughter's rehearsal party. I said "having a group dinner" and he said "no having a rehearsal dinner for my daughter and the idiot she is marrying"

Posted by: Timon at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (h3t5U)

386 "All your stuff belong to me....." Bob...sorry I was just pissed that y'all wouldn't give me ANY STUFF and I hate smoking a pipe....crying ....like a girlie man now.
You can retrieve your stuff by sending a $100 bankers check to Saf-enomics Belonging Co. 125078.

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (5IHGB)

387 I dropped my darling daughter off at her freshman dorm at Indiana University in Bloomington a few years ago; as I was driving off, I yelled out the window: "Sweetie, don't let those professors brainwash you!" And she saluted me and called back: "Don't worry, Mother, you already have!"

Posted by: AgathaPagatha at August 19, 2018 05:01 PM (xDMjB)

388 @Diogenes at 115
You don't know Ingelise.

Posted by: AytchMan at August 19, 2018 05:10 PM (AEtcC)

389 When I was young I worked in the Gulf as a roustabout on an oil rig. One day we were loading the boat up with around six big Ingersoll-Rand air-compressors. As the crane lowered them down the 90 feet to the boat, me and John Satterfield had to basically get underneath them, and push them into position.

We'd done a few, and as we walked toward the next one I felt a hand, five fingers and a palm, in my chest as if to hold me back, and a voice said to me as clear as day, "Don't go near this one, there's something wrong." So I reached out my hand and stopped Satterfield, repeating the words that were spoken to me.

About that time one of the cables let go and the compressor swung in a lazy arc downwards, the force snapping the other eyelet. The entire assembly fell twenty feet and punched a nice hole in the plate steel deck as it bounced into the Gulf.

As you might imagine, Satterfield stared at me with a surprised look on his face. I mumbled something incoherent about 'a voice', and left it at that. The question I am left with after all these years is, why? Why would God take time out of his busy schedule to save a dissolute wastrel like me?

Odd, that.

Posted by: Mr. W at August 19, 2018 05:10 PM (aR6p7)

390 Posted by: AgathaPagatha at August 19, 2018 05:01 PM (xDMjB)

LMAO!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2018 05:15 PM (dUJdY)

391 I met Tom Clancy in a restaurant bathroom years ago when he was hosting his daughter's rehearsal party. I said "having a group dinner" and he said "no having a rehearsal dinner for my daughter and the idiot she is marrying"
Posted by: Timon at August 19, 2018 04:57 PM (h3t5U)

LOL That dude must have spent a lot of time in restaurants.

Posted by: Mega at August 19, 2018 05:16 PM (uEbPt)

392 I was 3 years old and standing in the back of a 57 ford car and my dad T boned another car. I Flew between my dad and mom broke threw the windshield with my head and body. Landing in the ditch across the road. True story ... I have scares to prove it.

Posted by: Yep at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (shvYT)

393 I have "scares" from many a defenestration whateffer that is.......I now use airbags for butt enhancers and boob jobs for GF's......safe sex baybee.

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 05:27 PM (5IHGB)

394 Posted by: Yep at August 19, 2018 05:20 PM (shvYT)


Years ago, eldest son hit a buck that ran into the road suddenly. The buck came through the windshield headfirst between son and his wife. The tip of one antler just grazed my grand-daughter in the back seat leaving a slight scar on her chin which she has to this day. An inch either way, or another MPH at impact and she'd have been dead or severely injured!

Posted by: Hrothgar Bot at August 19, 2018 05:29 PM (n9EOP)

395 I shook hands with Larry Fine in 1962. True story!

Posted by: LarryFineHandShaker at August 19, 2018 05:36 PM (rOZLf)

396 The look on the janitor's face the next morning was priceless. I walked into the shower room and he was standing there with a bewildered look, obviously wondering if he should call campus security because of all the blood everywhere in one of the stalls. We told him what happened, gave him some backstrap, and that was the end of the Great Connass Deer Caper.
Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 04:02 PM (yzxic)

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I was living in Colorado Springs just outside of Fort Carson when a bunch of Army guys decided to hunt some deer with the .50 mounted on the jeep. If memory serves, they got a few deer and got a court-martial or two.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 05:48 PM (WEBkv)

397 "what the hell is "dry biscuit mix?"
It's what many a young, recently married lass in the south's turned to when she didn't have a clue how to make biscuits.
"Just Add Buttermilk"

Posted by: Bildo at August 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+Rf4+)

398 Awright -- true story about my best buddy, Bruce (R.I.P.).

G.H.W. Bush, then the VP, was in Tulsa one Saturday night to deliver a speech. Secret Service goes along the motorcade route with sniffer dogs. Bruce's car -- a '60s hand-me-down from his parents -- is parked on the route, which goes past the Tulsa World building. Bruce is inside at work. (Copy editor, like me.)

Car is full of his clothes and other property because he is changing apartments. Trunk also contains road flares.

Dog twigs on flares.

SS breaks into car, opens trunk, glove box, and hood, and drains battery. Leaves everything open with a note of explanation.

It rains.

Bruce comes out onto the street after work, say 1 a.m., to find his car ransacked, doors open, full of wet clothing, and with a dead battery. I think he had to call a cab -- I was visiting my parents that night, so I couldn't take him home.

HE. IS. FURIOUS.

Results:

A 1A story for the World.
A payment to Bruce, after some wrangling.
A story Bruce could repeat -- and laugh at -- for years afterward.
Finally, a decision by Bruce to buy a new car. No more "Berthas" for him!

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 06:02 PM (uY5Ht)

399 I once interrogated Mueller and he squealed like a pig.........then we had bacon sammies.Now I believe in reincarnation.......

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 06:11 PM (5IHGB)

400 I was in college and visiting my cousin who lived in Paris. She was in the process of breaking up with her boyfriend and me being there didn't make things any better. She told me their was a bus that would take me to Amsterdam and a few other cities like Brussels and that I should take it for a week and then come back at the end of my Christmas break. I picked Amsterdam at random, I had no idea what happened there, no idea about the drugs or prostitution. Just that Heineken was from Amsterdam and i liked beer.
I got there after a all night bus ride and walked off the bus with my backpack and was greeted by a bum who spoke perfect English. I am not naive about cities since i grew up in Chicago but this guy was a lot smaller than me and since I didn't know my way around I offered to buy him breakfast at McDonald's if he would help me find a hotel and point out some attractions. When we sat down he asked me if I smoked hash and liked prostitutes and that's when I fully realized where I was. He set me up at a cheap hotel that was actually pretty nice and we made plans to meet that night to go to a hash bar. We met and he did all the ordering and rolling of joints. Being the rank amateur that I was I choked like a bitch. I gave him the joints and he said take the small amount of hash in a pack of cigarettes and then we parted. I had a lot of adventures that week but this post would be ten pages long if I documented them all.
Anyway, on the last day I got back on the bus and started back to Paris. At the border we stopped at a police station and they started leading people off the bus. I had no idea what was happening until I saw people walking with their bags into the station. Then it hit me. I had put the pack of cigarettes in my backpack with the hash. This was probably a stop to search our bags for drugs and I was fucked. It came to be my turn and I grabbed my bag. I thought if I got a chance I would rummage through my bag but they lead me into the station and the police officer pointed to the end of a long hall where I saw a bunch of people sitting. I walked to the end of the hall and sat down. Then the next person came in and about ten feet from the sitting area he turned into a room. In that room is where they were searching the bags and I walked right past it. Then I noticed my fellow passengers looking at me sideways and I realized what I had done. We sat there for 1 million years while they searched the rest of the passengers. Then they lead us out of the station. Had us put our bags on the bus. The lurch as that bus pulled away from the station was one of the greatest thrills of my life.
I never found out what was the punishment for drug smuggling into France. I never had the nerve to ask. But I smoked the hell out of that little piece of hash when I got back to school. I definitely earned it.

Posted by: Bill C at August 19, 2018 06:16 PM (HqPBH)

401 clutch - Yea a few more times. We were more friends then anything else by that point.

Posted by: McDirty at August 19, 2018 06:51 PM (HCh/n)

402 McDirty, good for you. It sounds like she deeply regretted her decision.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2018 06:55 PM (kiSdp)

403
Paradox Alice - Earth's water supply has turned toxic. We have space travel but no way to purify water so we have to go to Jupiter's moons for water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqr-hfamiE&t=41s

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 19, 2018 06:59 PM (I9Sw7)

404 371
I don't get Stormy Daniels.



But Karen McDougal, yowzaa!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 04:35 PM (1UZdv)

Wheat, chaffe.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 19, 2018 07:17 PM (UsCnO)

405 Inmates Across The Country Plan To Go On Strike Refusing To Eat And Work To Protest 'Prison Slavery'

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Knock yourselves out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 07:24 PM (+y/Ru)

406 The Nov Mid-Terms results are in...I came FIRST,Trump a close second the rest too few votes to count.CNN went bankrupt and that Acosata dude got stilletoed to death by the cocktail bint staff stampede for book deals......and life goes on....Pelosi has retired to farm asparagus and says it does not make her pee smell bad,
Chuck Schumer begs to differ as he has to empty the bedpans @ Rancho Democratico Socialista in Mexico......

Posted by: saf at August 19, 2018 07:45 PM (5IHGB)

407 I married a Swede to get him a green card, and ended up staying married for 16 years. Unbelievable, but true.

Posted by: zero turn riding mower at August 19, 2018 08:05 PM (txw6d)

408 Not sure this should count as bragging, but as of this evening, Mr. Empire and I have been married for 52 years ...

Posted by: empire1 at August 19, 2018 08:05 PM (htU4m)

409 /off mower sock

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:10 PM (txw6d)

410 Well, happy anniversary!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:10 PM (txw6d)

411 I've fallen in love with a Moron.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:11 PM (txw6d)

412 Thanks, Miley! It's been the usual ups and downs, but we've weathered them together, and it's been mostly good.

Posted by: empire1 at August 19, 2018 08:12 PM (htU4m)

413 I've fallen in love with a Moron.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:11 PM (txw6d)

---------

Really? Do tell......

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:13 PM (I16G8)

414 Hmm. Miley, this is good -- Mr. Emprire is one as well, though since he doesn't come here, he wouldn't recognize it as the compliment it is.

Posted by: empire1 at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (htU4m)

415 It was a dark and stormy night and there hadn't been a new open thread since early afternoon. Then the zombies arrived.

Posted by: amdycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:26 PM (Evws/)

416 Really? Do tell......

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 19, 2018 08:13 PM (I16G

Not yet.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:27 PM (txw6d)

417 Hmm. Miley, this is good -- Mr. Emprire is one as
well, though since he doesn't come here, he wouldn't recognize it as the
compliment it is.

Posted by: empire1 at August 19, 2018 08:15 PM (htU4m)

Morons are the good stuff.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:29 PM (txw6d)

418 It would never work out, Miley. You're a little rock and roll and I'm a little country and western. Sorry.

Posted by: amdycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (Evws/)

419 It would never work out, Miley. You're a little rock and roll and I'm a little country and western. Sorry.


Posted by: amdycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:30 PM (Evws/)

I like a little country and western.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

420 BTW, I'm typing on the tablet.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:31 PM (Evws/)

421 I won't judge you.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (txw6d)

422 Oh. The food thread was taken over as the open thread.

Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:33 PM (Evws/)

423 I could have written about the salmon in phyllo we had for dinner tonight, but I was drawn to this thread.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:34 PM (txw6d)

424 #420
I'm getting high.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:36 PM (txw6d)

425 LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfkgOWrd1vc

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (txw6d)

426 Them's lipstick lesbians, btw.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:42 PM (txw6d)

427 Need to modify my nic a bit ...

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 08:42 PM (htU4m)

428 One might be a tranny, though. Hell, more than one, I suppose.
Those tranny lesbians are rare creatures. Problem-solvers, for some kinds of problems.
/end hate speech

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (txw6d)

429 Okay, that worked. I think I'll keep it, at least for a while

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 08:43 PM (htU4m)

430 "Thursedov" sounds like the leader of a fictional country.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:44 PM (txw6d)

431 Thanks for the warning about the link, Miley. Uh, I've got somewhere else to be. Yeah, that's. I have to be someplace else.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:45 PM (Evws/)

432 James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:46 PM (Evws/)

433 I thought it was a great video for the 'rons. You're welcome. Have a nice time!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:46 PM (txw6d)

434 James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner.


Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2018 08:46 PM (Evws/)

He fell in love with a hard-headed woman, and vowed to woo and win her.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:47 PM (txw6d)

435 Miley, I'm a Skyrim addict ... and the Player Character ends up as head of the dragons after defeating Alduin. Thursedov is Overlord of Dragonkind, in the dragon speech.

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 08:48 PM (htU4m)

436 Thank you for the background, empire1, Thursedov. Dragon Overlord is a lot of responsibility.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:50 PM (txw6d)

437 I think I'd rather do the baking and gardening for the dragons, though.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:51 PM (txw6d)

438 What's all this tosh about the mine being unsafe? [Knocks truss with walking-stick. CRASH!!!]

Posted by: James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (Evws/)

439 Dragon favorites: crisp bread. Moses' Burning Bush

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (txw6d)

440 What's all this tosh about the mine being unsafe? [Knocks truss with walking-stick. CRASH!!!]


Posted by: James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 08:52 PM (Evws/)

JAMES! JAMES! Are you alright? Speak to me!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:53 PM (txw6d)

441 Take two medium peasants and truss with hands and feet in the small of the back...

Posted by: cookbook for your dragon at August 19, 2018 08:54 PM (Evws/)

442 I've never been good at trussing. Something always ends up sticking out.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:55 PM (txw6d)

443 It is, if you're writing fanfic for the universe. In the game, it sort of ends when Odahviing acknowledges you as thur, or overlord. Since he was Alduin's chief lieutenant, that makes you head honcho, but in the game, well, it doesn't make any further changes.

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 08:56 PM (htU4m)

444 I'll always love you, Miley. I promise to come back as a glittery vampire who only talks about his feelings.

Posted by: zombie James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 08:56 PM (Evws/)

445 There is a theory, called Paleoweltschmerz, which expresses a possible explanation for the extinction of dinosaurs. It claims that dinosaurs became so disillusioned with their ancient world that they died of boredom.

Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2018 08:58 PM (e8kgV)

446
They probably already make faux granite out of recycled plastic bags and newspapers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 08:58 PM (HkNlg)

447 I'll always love you, Miley. I promise to come back as a glittery vampire who only talks about his feelings.


Posted by: zombie James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 08:56 PM (Evws/)

That sounds burdensome, James. Perhaps you could just return as a silent succubus?

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 08:59 PM (txw6d)

448 Miley, you're hired. Report to Skuldafn -- one of my dovah will take you -- and request what you need for equipment and aides. I have plenty of gold to provide them.

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 09:00 PM (htU4m)

449 I'm so bored. And I hate eating fronds.

Posted by: zombie brontosaurus at August 19, 2018 09:01 PM (Evws/)

450 Oh, yeah, Miley -- you may add Steward of Skuldafn to your titles.

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (htU4m)

451 I'm retired, empire1, and I'm hot on the trail of love, and will not be seduced by the prospect of feeding dragons.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 09:03 PM (txw6d)

452 But I thank you for the honor.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at August 19, 2018 09:04 PM (txw6d)

453 How about I come back as even-richer rich guy who's into BDSM and you let me do things to you that you'd never let a poor guy do to you? I could change my name. Maybe a xolor or something.

Mr. Fuscia.

No.

I know! Mr Green.

Posted by: zombie James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 09:05 PM (Evws/)

454 "color"

Posted by: zombie James Thursedov, III. Victorian mine owner at August 19, 2018 09:06 PM (Evws/)

455 Okay, Emeritus, then, and I'll find another active Steward. If you wish, of course.

Posted by: empire1, Thursedov at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (htU4m)

456 *bows and whispers* Dovakhiin...

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! - Leigon of Gloom founding member/too sweet at August 19, 2018 09:07 PM (IYHxL)

THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!

The scientific method is unforgiving, and not quite as simple as one would think. I was having a conversation about it with a friend who knows a lot more about it than I, and he corrected my lazy definition with a more complete one:

Instead of "true" and "not true" I'd substitute "consistent with what we know so far" (i.e., not yet disproven), and "not true." The problem with characterizing an explanation as "true" is that it gradually accretes more and more credibility over time, until it becomes received truth. It's important to remind oneself that any explanation could be overturned tomorrow.
Does that sound familiar?

So I was immensely amused to find this article recently about a scientist whose theory is upsetting the "settled science" apple cart, and it is awesome. The Nastiest Feud in Science: A Princeton geologist has endured decades of ridicule for arguing that the fifth extinction was caused not by an asteroid but by a series of colossal volcanic eruptions. But she's reopened that debate.

There are many instances of accepted science that were disproven in a flash, and years or decades or centuries of fact were simply discarded. And that is as it should be. Having an emotional or financial or egotistical connection to a scientific conclusion is an invitation to sit at the head of the table and get the first and largest serving of crow.

I have no knowledge or expertise in this field, but her theory certainly makes sense. it may be right..it may be wrong, but it should battle it out honorably on the field of logic and science, not on the post-modern field of malleable rules and acceptance of the popular as the truth.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 First.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:15 PM (/qEW2)

2 Okay, then

Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 12:17 PM (+Tibp)

3 Roomy. Good mornin' Horde.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 19, 2018 12:18 PM (2sCft)

4 Interesting. But why does it matter?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:19 PM (atTnz)

5 Yeah, been having this argument for years.

If Scientists were truly honest, every assertion would end with '...we think.'.

Funny, too. In the History of Science, there were many a False Theory that had a more 'accurately predictive' model than the 'correct' Theory that followed.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:20 PM (zevYT)

6 I was dubious from anything from the Atlantic, but it's a good read. Politics over Science is the leftist way.

JJ calls it Lysenko ism.

Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 12:20 PM (+Tibp)

7 From what I have seen and read 99% of the 'science ' today has no science in it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

8 This is how one knows that AGW is more hoax for funding from idiot politicians than science. The journals refuse to print the letters to editor or papers that disagree with the approved narrative.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 12:21 PM (cLj/v)

9 Eh, willowed:

You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)"


This !
Loved finding stuff that way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (58Au

He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work....
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)
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In one of his NR articles years ago, VDH observed that few of his colleagues in academe could actually DO anything practical, such as was required on his farm.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 12:02 PM (kQs4Y)


Going and doing has been the human way since forever,

and so, is deeply satisfying.

But, also keeps one connected to the real world and reality by physical learning.

A big part of our current problems as a nation is that Our Betters so disconnected from reality by their jobs, education, and inclination,

that they can't even change a tire.

It's beneath them, as is all physicality and thus the lessons of the possible.

That's the reason they fail us as gov't officials, educators, media.

Yes, yes, geniuses. Your minds can conceive anything,

but, your stupid ideas have real world consequences to real people if applied in the real world. (Hello-o-o-o-o-o Socialism!)

I don't know what the solution to this is-

However I do understand why one of the first actions by Castro, Mao, Pol Pot, etc was to stick intellectuals (even those who supported them) out in the cane fields for hard labor.

It was a dose of the real for their flighty minds.


And that's what happened to the dinosaurs*







*staying on topic

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (9q7Dl)

10 "Science advances one funeral at a time"
Max Planck

Posted by: TheMascotArmy at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (IAGvD)

11 I saw Ptolemic Epicycles open for Rocket from the Crypt at The Bottom Line back in 94!

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (zevYT)

12 From what I have seen and read 99% of the 'science ' today has no science in it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

There was an article here a few months ago that suggest that a very large percentage, like over 40%, of scientific 'studies' could not be replicated. That seems like a lot.

Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (+Tibp)

13 Dear Members Only: A Letter Back to Twelve Angry CIA Bureaucrats, Swampville, USA

It's Not About Freedom of Speech and You Know It.

Dear Club Members,

I read your letter. Thank you so much.

You know what else constitutes "ill-considered and unprecedented remarks and actions by the White House"?

A: Obama's One-Man Nuclear Treaty with Iran.

Every nuclear treaty of our lifetime until then was ratified by the Senate--truly unprecedented. But none of you heroes piped-up when Obama was sending them pallets of cash and uranium. Why is John Brennan's clearance more important to you than Iran? In what possible world?

When Brennan retired in 2006 and opened The Analytics Company, his security clearances allowed the company to break into the State Department's computers to repeatedly access McCain's and Obama's birth certificates, which he somehow leveraged into a directorship.

Odd; I don't remember any of you mentioning it.

Nor did we hear a peep from you when your fellow director John Brennan spied on another branch of government.

Is this what you mean by "patriotic"? Hacking into Sen. Feinstein's Senate Committee computers, removing files and threatening investigators with FBI prosecution, then lying until caught. This all sounds so familiar. If that's how he treats friendlies, how do you think he treats the Opposition? The guy probably wiretapped his Mom to find out what he was getting for Christmas.

I won't even go into his bugs in the House cloakroom, wiretaps in the Court chambers or spying on reporters. Since you are all super-spies, I'm sure you can dig it up yourselves.

You have all been as quiet as churchmice about Brennan's spying and Agit-Prop activities in the 2016 election. Is it "service to the nation" to turn the CIA into a wing of the Democratic National Committee?

It begs the question: since you vouch for his actions, did any of you spy on Congress also? Threaten staffers with FBI inquisitions? Lie in your testimony? Did you hire spies to infiltrate American political campaigns, too?

As former directors, you would know that founder President Truman wanted the CIA to remain a non-operational information service. He didn't want the Agency involved in foreign election-tampering, let alone election tampering in America. Yet John Brennan did just that--and you all couldn't manage a syllable to stop it then or condemn it now.

None of these high crimes and misdemeanors caused you to speak up--not even Obama's "ill-considered and unprecedented" Unconditional and Pre-Emptive Surrender to Iran.

Only the loss of John Brennan's security clearance stirs you to protest.

Only then do you find your collective voice.

Only when your Order of the Creased Pant-Leg Gentlemen's Club for Distinguished Alumni-perks are threatened. Meh.

You know what? Donald Trump is doing the job you refused to do. Brennan has gone rogue and none of you--not one--has the guts to say so. Only Donald Trump.

I'm sorry you've lost your way. But you have. Thank you for your previous service. Go back to sleep now. We'll manage without you. We're used to it.

Sincerely,

America

ps: And thank you President Trump for serving and defending America today.

Somebody's got to do it for a change.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (Ndje9)

14 >>There was an article here a few months ago that suggest that a very large percentage, like over 40%, of scientific 'studies' could not be replicated. That seems like a lot.


That's nothing. Try and get a cup of Tea out of one of those things!

Posted by: Arthur Dent at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (zevYT)

15 Karl Popper was a philosopher of science who took the position that science could only prove things false. e.g., Europeans thought that all swans had to be white, because no European have ever seen a non-white swan. Until they got to Australia and had a Black Swan Moment. In Popper's view, anything we think true can always be dis-proven.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (1UZdv)

16 Science is never settled

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (lxZ71)

17 I think Lysenkoism is an extreme form of "unscientific method", in which personal power and power, period, substitute for actual science.


The original, having been one of the many extreme pathologies related to Stalin's insanely violent cult of power, does not (happily) apply perfectly to today's hijacking of "science" for power and self-enrichment - but it applies well enough. And the malevolent human basis, while less extreme, is of the same general nature.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (QDnY+)

18 I was always taught the definition if science was nothing is ever settled, just what is known at the time and subject to change.

When I'm dancing close to her
Blinding me with science, science
Science!
I can smell the chemicals
Blinding me with science, science
Science!
Science!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (EoRCO)

19 LOL! Everyone knows the fifth extinction was really caused by an alien artifact.

Posted by: Michael Altman at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (iSqF0)

20 Interesting. But why does it matter?

It doesn't!

Posted by: Global Warming Science at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (LBYpQ)

21 Excellent post.

Remember when it was -truth-that the atom was the smallest unit of matter, until someone smashed one and all kinds of crap started flying out?

The only truth in science is that we do not know what we do not know.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (lRvWa)

22 A prehistoric eruption by Mt Toba almost exterminated humanity.

Posted by: Volcano guy at August 19, 2018 12:26 PM (zPonD)

23 The problem with characterizing an explanation as "true" is that it gradually accretes more and more credibility over time, until it becomes received truth. It's important to remind oneself that any explanation could be overturned tomorrow.

Someone here posted a quote a few years ago "that the earth is a sphere is false, but it's a lot less false than believing that it's flat".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:26 PM (/qEW2)

24 >>The only truth in science is that we do not know what we do not know.


So, you are saying that the Unknown Knowns that we Know are Unknowble not only in fact but in scale?

Far out, man.

Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld at August 19, 2018 12:28 PM (zevYT)

25 19. Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 12:28 PM (fA1SL)

26
I was reading some article this morning that made the rather curious claim that dinosaurs were wiped out by lack of Vitamin D.

That seems to settle the science for me.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:28 PM (LOgQ4)

27 One thing has always bothered me about dinosaur extinction and why there aren't any current animals that come close in size to the dinosaurs. My thought has been that gravity is heavier now than it once was. Physicist claim gravity has remained the same throughout time. But this can only be true if the earth remained the same size throughout. If earth had been a larger planet than it is today, it would have experience a lighter gravitational force. Not a physicist, but this has always bothered me. One other theory is gravity is an energy that is required to expand the universe. If the universe expands faster than gravity as measured on any planet would be less.

Brain fart time.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (vV/gB)

28 13>>>Sincerely,

America

ps: And thank you President Trump for serving and defending America today.

Somebody's got to do it for a change.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (Ndje9)

+++++
*** slow clap ***'

Nicely done, Gipper.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (2sCft)

29 Then there's AGW and CAGW, which violate every tenet of the Scientific Method.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (1UZdv)

30 If Scientists were truly honest, every assertion would end with '...we think.'.

And begin with, too. I often come across in context-poor media as either hedgy and indecisive or egotistical because I bracket everything with 'I think ' or 'seems to me', but that's really just because using an absolute to describe a subjective observation feels jarring and dishonest. But it is also because I'm a waffling egotist.

I saw Ptolemic Epicycles open for Rocket from the Crypt at The Bottom Line back in 94!
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (zevYT)


I saw Rocket from the Crypt open for Rancid at the Intersection in 1996 and... wasn't super-impressed really.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:31 PM (y87Qq)

31 This is how one knows that AGW is more hoax for funding from idiot politicians than science. The journals refuse to print the letters to editor or papers that disagree with the approved narrative.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at August 19, 2018 12:21 PM (cLj/v)


========

^THIS^. The author obviously intended the title "The Nastiest Feud in Science" to serve as clickbait, but it unwittingly reveals the tragedy - isn't AGW far more worthy of being "The Nastiest Feud in Science"?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:31 PM (/qEW2)

32 Carbon Credits: Pay tribute to me, Bitches!

Posted by: Al Gore at August 19, 2018 12:32 PM (CdLX2)

33 Only a scientist still looking for grants would say science isn't settled, because if it was why give out research money?

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 12:32 PM (lxZ71)

34 Study not replicable means it is not empirical. If it's not empirical it is not science. I learned this decades ago. Is this no longer taught?

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:34 PM (LGXGf)

35 Gipper Lives, nicely done.


There was a time - not THAT long ago - when former intel chiefs were, generally, simply not heard from after their terms. No books. Certainly no dabbling in political or controvesial matters, invoking their presumed status as former bigs.


Occasionally you'd have someone like James Schlesinger whose intellectual heft and broad experience caused Congress and others to specifically draw on his views on major topics.


Um - none of the 12, or the 60-whatever lower-level intel types with their other statement, together, equal a Jim Schlesinger. And this is just the illogical, ad hominem, but unavoidable assessment. The substance of their protest is ridiculous.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2018 12:34 PM (QDnY+)

36 Only a scientist still looking for grants would say science isn't settled, because if it was why give out research money?
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 12:32 PM (lxZ71)

And, in the same breath, they would say, "Climate Change is settled science. And anyone that doesn't agree is a Neanderthal poopy-head!"

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:34 PM (9BLnV)

37 The dinosaurs were killed by Trump's tax cuts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 12:34 PM (+y/Ru)

38 One thing has always bothered me about dinosaur extinction and why there aren't any current animals that come close in size to the dinosaurs.

There are. Whales. In the ocean.

And so it's easier for them to hide from the best apex predator of all time....Man!

Pretty sure cavemen enjoy quite the smorgasbord of large animals.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:35 PM (9q7Dl)

39 Science and logic are old white cis-male hetero concepts.

Therefore, they must be dispensed with.

Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2018 12:35 PM (DH5wZ)

40 Study not replicable means it is not empirical. If it's not empirical it is not science. I learned this decades ago. Is this no longer taught?
Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:34 PM (LGXGf)

Taught? Who teaches anymore? That's for the inferior minds! Those on the right side of history merely need to be programmed.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:36 PM (9BLnV)

41 I was only a minion but I am familiar with some of the back-and-forth here. It seems reasonable that either a Yellowstone size eruption or a Chixulub size impact could wipe out species. There has been some ... factionalism?? ... of geologists being open to catastrophic changes vs paleontologists associating such with Biblical rather than empiric understanding. Apparently volcanoes are as catastrophic as paleontologists can stand. Rocks falling from the sky can't possibly cause that much damage!!! Except when they do.

.... ok I guess I have to read the article now to see what this person says (and probably look for other sources than just the Atlantic ;p )

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2018 12:37 PM (m54Mo)

42 Har! Har!


I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)

43 Pretty sure cavemen enjoy quite the smorgasbord of large animals.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:35 PM (9q7Dl)


Aren't the only continents that still have terrestrial megafauna the ones that also have terrestrial megafauna that can straight murder you to death? Australia and the Americas, I think, had fossil records of things with names like "ground sloth" and "slow-moving tastybeast" right up until a brief overlap with humans. Then, vanishingly few.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (y87Qq)

44 Theories can never be proven, but they can always be disproven.

And Al Gore can fuck his carbon credits up the their fullerene asses.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (QMwOT)

45
Global warming is caused by Republicans. Exclusively. No one else. Only an anti-science denier could hold otherwise.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2018 12:39 PM (LsBY9)

46 Still think it would be to cool to have saber tooth tigers, wooly mammoths and ground sloths roaming in Yellowstone

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 12:39 PM (lxZ71)

47
There are. Whales. In the ocean.
---------------------
A whale or elephant is merely one tenth the size of the gigantic dinosaurs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (vV/gB)

48 Europeans thought that all swans had to be white, because no European
have ever seen a non-white swan. Until they got to Australia and had a
Black Swan Moment. In Popper's view, anything we think true can always
be dis-proven.

I think there are some areas on which we can agree, though. For example, Lena Dunham will never be attractive. It's axiomatic.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (T6t7i)

49 Thanks--Russian Collusion is the new "Settled Science(tm)".

aka, superstition.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (Ndje9)

50 I am going to see Mastadon open for Dinosaur Jr. at The Wilma in 2 Weeks!

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (zevYT)

51 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)


Not from the front. From the sides, and the other two raptors you never even knew were there.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (y87Qq)

52 Taught? Who teaches anymore? That's for the inferior minds! Those on the right side of history merely need to be programmed.
Yeah, and woe betide anyone who could not defend his study with verifiable data, or who got caught fudging data.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (LGXGf)

53 12 There was an article here a few months ago that
suggest that a very large percentage, like over 40%, of scientific
'studies' could not be replicated. That seems like a lot.

Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (+Tibp)


That is on top of the fact that most of them have no study or anything else to support them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (mpXpK)

54 If something cannot be measured directly it can't really be science. It can be theory, but that's all. Until a way to measure it is discovered, things like evolution and "dinosaurs turning into birds" will just be fanciful imaginings, not science.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (9BLnV)

55 I am going to see Mastadon open for Dinosaur Jr. at The Wilma in 2 Weeks!
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (zevYT)


Oh, they were good on that tour with Jurassic 5.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (y87Qq)

56 I thought blue whales are the biggest animal ever.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (1UZdv)

57 But this can only be true if the earth remained the same size throughout. If earth had been a larger planet than it is today, it would have experience a lighter gravitational force. Not a physicist, but this has always bothered me.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM


You kinda got that bass ackwards.
Surface gravity is determined by both radius and mass.
The moon is 1/4 the size of Earth, while it's mass is only 1% of Earths.
Its gravity is 1/6th of Earths. Don't make me math you.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:43 PM (LOgQ4)

58 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)

I've seen several land whales, but no dinosaurs. Except Mr. Jenkins. God, what a relic!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:43 PM (9BLnV)

59 The Siberian and Deccan traps have been mentioned in the past as proof of vulcanism on a massive scale that would have had enormous influence on the planet, and I am happy either way. The KT impact theory is based on a hole in the Yucatan and the conclusion that a lot of sulfur would be thrown into the atmosphere to cause planetary cooling on top of the the giant impact, continental firestorms and seriously affected weather patterns. Massive eruptions would do the same.


Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 12:43 PM (2K6fY)

60 I thought blue whales are the biggest animal ever.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 12:42 PM (1UZdv)

++++
I did as well. Can someone please do some Google research?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 19, 2018 12:43 PM (2sCft)

61 I read that article yesterday, and I have a lot of reservations about it. First is her contention that the Deccan Traps were the result of explosive vulcanism. I have never seen them myself, but the Columbia Plateau, and similar plateau basalts in British Columbia are typically fairly non-violent events. The crust of the Earth develops a tension fracture, and basaltic magma wells up through the crack, and flows out over the land like hot molasses. And why are there no extinctions related to all the other plateau basalt events? And why is iridium not concentrated in the traps themselves, or in other plateau basalts, if the iridium originated in the eruptive event?

Finally, toward the end of the article, it becomes apparent that she is a Gerbil worming True Believer, and is convinced that we are poisoning the planet with mercury from fossil fuels, and that we are in the midst of a mass extinction event brought on by our own actions. If that is an example of her scholarship, then it taints her other work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:44 PM (LI7AQ)

62 There's a practical level, or version, of scientific "truth" that probably should be distinguished from the platonic ideal, which indeed remains only a hypothesis with more/less empirical and analytical basis.


Nuclear explosives, based on very advanced science, do in fact work. And their design and nature, in fact, are based on very specific practical truths and understandings of nuclear physics and other areas.


But to be the basis for any part of any public policy - i.e. rules and laws affecting freedom and people's actual lives - needs to be at that level of practical truth. AGW isn't remotely close to being at that level. And yet it's invoked as a basis for near-totalitarian control over, essentially, all human behavior.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2018 12:44 PM (QDnY+)

63 56
I thought blue whales are the biggest animal ever.


Not so.

Posted by: Jason Statham at August 19, 2018 12:44 PM (T6t7i)

64 >> I thought blue whales are the biggest animal ever.


The role Brian Denehey was born to play.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (zevYT)

65 It's funny how the asteroid theory was considered radical when it was first proposed, and now it's orthodoxy.

The debate between catastrophism and gradualism dates beck to the beginning of geology as a science. In the 18th and 19th centuries, many features in the geological record were attributed to the Biblical Flood, i.e., a sudden catastrophe.

But early geologists showed how those features could be explained by gradual processes like earthquakes, volcanoes, and erosion. Gradualism seemed to win the day.

When the asteroid impact theory was proposed in the late 1970s, geologists had a visceral negative reaction. Here was catastrophism rearing its ugly head again! From the Earth's point of view, an impact from the sky is indistinguishable from an angry God smiting the Earth.

But to an astronomer looking at the solar system as a whole, impacts are gradualism. All the planets and moons were built up by many impacts, mainly early in the solar system's history. Most of the loose material has been swept up, but there is still lots out there that can cause impacts.

I guess the most important lesson is that science is never "settled".

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (sdi6R)

66 56. All hail Blue Whale, Krill be unto his name.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (fA1SL)

67 Fun Fact: Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)

68 People have always longed for explanations to the point where they accepted crap explanations. That's one reason technology is so beneficial - it delivers us from the necessity of having to settle for crap explanations. It gives us a predisposition to expect a rational, deterministic cause.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (/qEW2)

69 Until a way to measure it is discovered, things like evolution and "dinosaurs turning into birds" will just be fanciful imaginings, not science.

Palaeontology is just archaeology as applied to nonhumans.

Vox Day (a former programmer) is right that "science" is too broad a term to be much useful. Useful science is engineering. Palaeontology is about dead things and so isn't directly useful, in the same way knowing about the Holocaust isn't directly useful.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2018 12:46 PM (N1ZXu)

70 I'd substitute "consistent with what we know so far" (i.e., not yet disproven), and "not true."

So, maple syrup on French Toast is still open for examination. Good.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2018 12:47 PM (DMUuz)

71 Fun Fact: Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)


How have I lived this long without knowing that?

Could it even be called "living"?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:47 PM (y87Qq)

72 >>>Not from the front. From the sides, and the other two raptors you never even knew were there.

Posted by: hogmartin<<<

If you drop your can of buffalo-ranch flavored Pringles, you can slip away without incident.

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM (CdLX2)

73 Fun Fact: Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)
++++
I will carry that Fun Fact with me til my dying breath.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM (2sCft)

74 Fun Fact: Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)


Sounds like a good premise for a horror flick. "Boobeh Dentata".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM (/qEW2)

75 Not so.
Posted by: Jason Statham at August 19, 2018 12:44 PM (T6t7i)

I have Meg on my to-read pile, btw.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM (CE6iV)

76 Unfortunately, there's now 2 types of Science:- True Science, which proves things based on Scientific method- Chicken Little science, which 'proves' things on the severity of the claims
A MAJOR example of Chicken Little science is: humans causing Global warming.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM (1bnL3)

77 The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.

That is what I have been reading lately.

The result is the same, an extinction level event.

Whether it was sudden or unfolded over time, decades, centuries, the result is the same.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 12:49 PM (w7KSn)

78 I recall the first time I heard "The Science is Settled!"
I was attending a small business conference with our local elected Congress guy as the featured speaker. (Boss made me go as she didn't want to.) This was back in the early '00's when Global Warming was ramping up. One old former State-level elected official (of the same party as the Congress dude) fairly shouted at the room, "The Science is Settled!!!" and his pugnacious look dared anyone to doubt him.
I leaned over to the guy next to me, whom I knew to be the head of a bio-med firm, and said, "Well, so much for the scientific method."
He laughed.
Pugnacious asshat noticed and came up to me afterwards and demanded to know if I believed global warming. "Nope," says I, "I think the Russians go this one right...it's getting colder."
And walked out.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2018 12:49 PM (0tfLf)

79 Useful science is engineering.

I disagree on that. I think a more useful distinction is between basic and applied science. I'm not entirely sure where to draw the line between applied science and engineering, other than perhaps to say that applied science wants to know why something useful works the way it does, but engineering wants to know that it works. These are not absolute distinctions, of course.

Posted by: Jason Statham at August 19, 2018 12:49 PM (T6t7i)

80 >> The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.

>>The result is the same, an extinction level event.


We weren't impressed.

Posted by: Crocodiles at August 19, 2018 12:50 PM (zevYT)

81 Fun Fact: Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)


I'm going to start a beverage company that does Snapple-type fun facts under the caps, except every single one of them will say "Mastodon means 'Nipple Tooth'".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:50 PM (y87Qq)

82 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)

I have a hunk of dinosaur bone in a box in my basement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:50 PM (LI7AQ)

83 Greetings:

When it was time for me to go off to college, my Father wanted me to attend a local Jesuit university. His pitch was basically, you'll like the Jesuits, they're like God's Green Berets. So off I went.

One of the best and most useful things I learned was from my Philosophy 101 professor who introduce me to his "my current conclusion is...". That weaselly "current" word can save one a world of grief.

Posted by: 11B40 at August 19, 2018 12:51 PM (evgyj)

84 Hadrian, I read about your wall last night. Maybe you can tell me if it was intended as a defensive wall or simply as the delineator of the far reach of the Roman Empire.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:51 PM (atTnz)

85
Global warming is caused by Republicans. Exclusively. No one else. Only an anti-science denier could hold otherwise.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


97% of Democrats agree

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 12:51 PM (IqV8l)

86 I have Meg on my to-read pile, btw.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 12:48 PM


If she weren't such a loser, you could listen to collected audio expostulations, like Queen Elizabeth II does for mine, daily.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama, Once and Future President at August 19, 2018 12:51 PM (DMUuz)

87 pep = Jason Statham
Jason's a good guy, but he's not much in the science department.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (T6t7i)

88 >>97% of Democrats agree


'Ask a Democrat' is one hell of a Predictive Model.

Posted by: Crocodiles at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (zevYT)

89 The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 12:49 PM (w7KSn)


I thought yesterday's daytime threads were just fine. MisHum's got some stuff, he just needed a little time off.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (y87Qq)

90 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)

Winston Smith: "But the rocks are full of the bones of extinct animals -- mammoths and mastodons and enormous reptiles which lived here long before man was ever heard of."

O'Brien: "Have you ever seen those bones, Winston? Of course not. Nineteenth-century biologists invented them. Before man there was nothing. After man, if he could come to an end, there would be nothing. Outside man there is nothing."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 12:53 PM (EoRCO)

91 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?

Posted by: Fritz


Nancy Pelosi?

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 12:53 PM (T6t7i)

92 Mary Ann > Ginger

Settled science.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 12:53 PM (/tuJf)

93 85 - 97% of Democrats agree

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Posted by: Steven Wright at August 19, 2018 12:54 PM (TiIoH)

94 And on earth started this "right side of history crap?" It is one of the stupidest things I have heard.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 12:54 PM (pcnVL)

95
I remember a time when science actually reined, when a bunch of guys with pocket protectors whipped out their slide rules, calculated the radius and mass of the moon, and calculated almost to the ounce the amount of fuel needed to both decelerate to land on the moon, and then also escape it's gravitational pull. Guys with misogynist shirts.

Now we probably have half the population of this country denying the moon landings ever actually occurred.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:55 PM (LOgQ4)

96 You're blinding me.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 12:55 PM (NWiLs)

97
And on earth started this "right side of history crap?"

Progressives, who else? Because their political philosophy is "scientific" even though every experiment has ended in failure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2018 12:56 PM (LsBY9)

98 97% of Democrats agree
As one of my quantitative methods instrucrors was fond of saying, "there are lies, damn lies and statistics."
Mary Ann > Ginger, this is TRUTH.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:56 PM (LGXGf)

99 I have a petrified piece of dinosaur tooth...two teeth, actually...given to me by an oil-hunting geologist. It's nasty-looking.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:57 PM (atTnz)

100 The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.

>>The result is the same, an extinction level event.

We weren't impressed.
Posted by: Crocodiles at August 19, 2018 12:50 PM (zevYT)

Extinction level event? We laugh at extinction level events! --the cockroaches.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:57 PM (9BLnV)

101 Argentinosaurus was the size of about 20 elephants...

from National Geographic

Posted by: MarkY at August 19, 2018 12:57 PM (8Vxlz)

102 94 And on earth started this "right side of history crap?" It is one of the stupidest things I have heard.
Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 12:54 PM (pcnVL)

It's a Hegelian/Marxist idea.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (NWiLs)

103 89 The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 12:49 PM (w7KSn)

I thought yesterday's daytime threads were just fine. MisHum's got some stuff, he just needed a little time off.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (y87Qq)


Heh.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (sdi6R)

104 Treason > Jeff Sessions

Settled science.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (r9UYA)

105
Extinction level event? We laugh at extinction level events! --the cockroaches.

Them, and Cher.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (LsBY9)

106 >>>I have a hunk of dinosaur bone in a box in my basement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon<<<
That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to your 40 volume dissertation on the life and times of the dinosaur bone what roamed and conquered the heavens and Earth for a millennium.

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (CdLX2)

107 97% of Democrats agree
As one of my quantitative methods instrucrors was fond of saying, "there are lies, damn lies and statistics."
Mary Ann > Ginger, this is TRUTH.
Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:56 PM (LGXGf)

Not in the hammock! --Professor.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (9BLnV)

108 106 >>>I have a hunk of dinosaur bone in a box in my basement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to your 40 volume dissertation on the life and times of the dinosaur bone what roamed and conquered the heavens and Earth for a millennium.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (CdLX2)

He used it to bash other bones when the monolith gave him sentience.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (NWiLs)

109 Finally, toward the end of the article, it becomes apparent that she is a Gerbil worming True Believer, and is convinced that we are poisoning the planet with mercury from fossil fuels, and that we are in the midst of a mass extinction event brought on by our own actions. If that is an example of her scholarship, then it taints her other work.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:44 PM (LI7AQ)
-----------

AOP, that bothered me too. She may well be right about the volcanoes, and if she is, good for her. But I hated to see her call one of her "enemies" the "Trump of science" and the later lamentation about global warming.

I wish she would have just stuck to her lane.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (JJZzu)

110 It's a Hegelian/Marxist idea.

So, imported with those Frankfort School frauds, eh?

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (LGXGf)

111 When the asteroid impact theory was proposed in the late 1970s, geologists had a visceral negative reaction. Here was catastrophism rearing its ugly head again! From the Earth's point of view, an impact from the sky is indistinguishable from an angry God smiting the Earth.

But to an astronomer looking at the solar system as a whole, impacts are gradualism. All the planets and moons were built up by many impacts, mainly early in the solar system's history. Most of the loose material has been swept up, but there is still lots out there that can cause impacts.

I guess the most important lesson is that science is never "settled".
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (sdi6R)

Look at the Moon: absolutely riddled with impact craters. The Earth was right there with it. We don't see many craters on Earth because on-going geological processes erase them, for the most part, but as we get better at mapping both the surface and sub-surface, we are finding more and more of them, and some of them are huge.

And I don't have a problem with the notion that a very large impact on one side of the Earth could send a shock wave through the core, and cause the crust to split at a weak point at or near the opposite side, leading to a flood basalt eruption.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (LI7AQ)

112 >>I have a hunk of dinosaur bone in a box in my basement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon



If you ever want to bury that thing, call me.

Posted by: Hope Solo at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (zevYT)

113 Wait, I thought this is why they went extinct:


https://tinyurl.com/y7ytmrsp

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 01:00 PM (yzxic)

114 Mastadon means "Nipple Tooth".
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (AcZtS)

I saw Nipple Tooth open for Megadeth at the Fillmore in 2001.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 19, 2018 01:00 PM (EhZNT)

115 Mary Ann would make you a sammy, Ginger would be making your best friend

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 01:00 PM (lxZ71)

116
Now we probably have half the population of this country denying the moon landings ever actually occurred.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic


That's no moon!

Posted by: Deny Guy at August 19, 2018 01:00 PM (IqV8l)

117 Wait, I thought this is why they went extinct:
https://tinyurl.com/y7ytmrsp
Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 01:00 PM (yzxic)


http://pbfcomics.com/comics/dinosaur-meteors/

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:01 PM (y87Qq)

118 110 It's a Hegelian/Marxist idea.

So, imported with those Frankfort School frauds, eh?
Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (LGXGf)

Most likely. They also brought with them critical theory which gave us cultural Marxism which gives us bullshit like gender studies and intersectionality theory.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 01:02 PM (NWiLs)

119 But I hated to see her call one of her "enemies" the "Trump of science" and the later lamentation about global warming.

I was at an international scientific conference recently, and saw something that made me what to punch the speaker. He's a big name in the field, although overrated IMHO. Nonetheless, he started an invited talk by apologizing to the audience for Trump. It was the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen. I planned to tell him that to his face, but apparently he left before I could confront him.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:03 PM (T6t7i)

120 I'm like a dinosaur nerd and have read much about the demise of the dinosaurs so I'll add my $2.27 (inflation). I'm suspicious of both the meteor/asteroid/comet theory and the massive volcanoes in the Deccan Traps theory for the same reason. Both depend on the idea of global cooling caused by particulates in the atmosphere. Both of these theories arose roughly contemporaneously with the nuclear winter anti-war, anti-nuke propaganda theory. Also, there are many unanswered questions about how some species lived and others died. Our little mammal rodent ancestors didn't need to eat but the dinos did?

The dino-killing asteroid theory is one of those not altogether uncommon scientific theories that are much more believed by the general public than by the experts. And why not? All it needs is Elvis, Princess Diana and Kim Kardashian in a UFO piloted by Bigfoot to have it all.

I suspect it wasn't any one thing that killed the nonavian dinos. Dr. Robert Bakker thinks it was diseases arising from different dino populations coming into contact what with continental drift. There is pretty convincing evidence that an asteroid crashed into or off of Mexico at roughly the end of the cretacieous and that may well have played a role as did the Deccan Traps and other factors.

Incidentally, creeper was asking for a good, light read in the book thread. I might suggest The End of an Era by Robert J. Sawyer, a syfy time travel in which two rival scientists go back to settle the issue of what killed the dinos once and for all and get a surprising answer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:03 PM (+y/Ru)

121 115 - Mary Ann would make you a sammy, Ginger would be making your best friend

Go with Ginger.

Posted by: My Best Freind at August 19, 2018 01:03 PM (TiIoH)

122 Applied science uses mechanisms from basic science, when known.

And for centuries, the knowledge of how something worked was normally obscure. Today, we have a good idea on mechanisms of how things work.

The ultimate 'Why it works?" is theology.

Engineering is building something to use the applied science. JASWAG.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (hyuyC)

123 68 People have always longed for explanations to the point where they accepted crap explanations. That's one reason technology is so beneficial - it delivers us from the necessity of having to settle for crap explanations. It gives us a predisposition to expect a rational, deterministic cause.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:45 PM (/qEW2)
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I don't think technology has that benefit for the vast majority of us. Quite the opposite.

Who was it that said that technology can advance to the point that it is indistinguishable from magic?
I don't remember but he was right in a sense.

All of those people out there with their fancy cellphones --- do they have any concept of processes behind them?
On a simpler level, all of those clowns agitating for electric cars --- do they think electricity comes from unicorns?


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (0jtPF)

124 Nipple Tooth's rendition of I am the Eggman was the schnizzle.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (vV/gB)

125 ''The dinosaurs were killed by Trump's tax cuts.''

Is there anything he can't do?

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (jm1YL)

126 111
And I don't have a problem with the notion that a very large impact on one side of the Earth could send a shock wave through the core, and cause the crust to split at a weak point at or near the opposite side, leading to a flood basalt eruption.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM (LI7AQ)


That's what I think too.

The earlier--and much worse--Permian extinction is blamed on the "Siberian Traps". So far there is no evidence of an impact for that one.

But what causes these waves of intense volcanism lasting decades or centuries that are unmatched by anything in recorded human history?

I'll take "impacts" for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (sdi6R)

127 Dinosaurs chose to transition to birds. They be woke.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:05 PM (vV/gB)

128 Who was it that said that technology can advance to the point that it is indistinguishable from magic?
I don't remember but he was right in a sense.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (0jtPF)


Clarke's third law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)

129 That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to your 40 volume dissertation on the life and times of the dinosaur bone what roamed and conquered the heavens and Earth for a millennium.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:58 PM (CdLX2)

Bone was part of a mososaur. It swam around in the late Cretaceous seaway that ran up the middle of North America, and noshed on yummy ammonites. There's yer dissertation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:06 PM (LI7AQ)

130 Look at the Moon: absolutely riddled with impact craters. The Earth was right there with it. We don't see many craters on Earth because on-going geological processes erase them, for the most part, but as we get better at mapping both the surface and sub-surface, we are finding more and more of them, and some of them are huge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:59 PM


I've read that if it was possible to magically reduce Earth from every direction to the size of a pool ball, it would be just as perfect in appearance.

The kind of stuff I'd ponder daily if I had a drug habit.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 01:06 PM (LOgQ4)

131 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 12:38 PM (CdLX2)

Well...https://youtu.be/imNRmIujsPk

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 01:06 PM (yzxic)

132 Margarita DeVille

Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 19, 2018 01:06 PM (hyuyC)

133 ...of which, Clarke's first law is kind of relevant here: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:07 PM (y87Qq)

134 If our core is full of molten lava and one side of the earth is slammed hard, wouldn't we just bounce around the universe? My knowledge of basketball says yes we would.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:07 PM (vV/gB)

135 On a simpler level, all of those clowns agitating for electric cars --- do they think electricity comes from unicorns?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (0jtPF)

Well, of course it does! What are you, a unicorn denier? I guess you believe in the movement of a metal coil moving through a magnetic field? Ha ha ha! What a conspiracy theorist!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 01:07 PM (9BLnV)

136 The KT impact reverberated through the whole planet, shock waves travelled across the globe to present day Indonesia, volcanoes resulted.

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Women and minorities hardest hit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)

137 I don't science. Or cook. Sunday afternoon threads have cut me right out.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (lwiT4)

138 Allow me to wax philosophical a moment

Instead of "true" and "not true" I'd substitute "consistent with what we know so far" (i.e., not yet disproven), and "not true."

This is a good approach for science, because it is not, as Indiana Jones notes, the search for truth. It is the search for fact. You do not find truth from science, you find facts, which are subsets of truth (they are things which are true).

Science determines its conclusions using the "inductive" method. This is distinct from the "deductive" method, which Sherlock Holmes is famous for (although he used both); deductive is where you deduct -- remove -- data until you are left with what must be true.

Inductive is where you examine the data until you discover what is the most likely conclusion. You study until you find the highest probability of truth. Thus, instead of finding the only surviving truth, you find the greatest likelihood.

And that's all science can do, it never gives absolute answers, it never can offer certainty. It can only offer highest probability.

For example, ordinary water is made up of H20, right? Well probably: we haven't tested all water everywhere to know for certain. Its extremely unlikely (to the point of stupidity) that in any place there is water made up of anything else, but its not literally impossible that it could be in some circumstances (and there is "water" made up of alternate chemical combinations we know of (heavy water is made up of D20 for example).

If anyone in science or describing science claims that they have certainty or absolute answers, much less attacks you for doubting or disagreeing whatever the topic then they are doing bad science and at least to some degree don't understand the discipline. Yes, even evolution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (39g3+)

139 If our core is full of molten lava and one side of the earth is slammed hard, wouldn't we just bounce around the universe? My knowledge of basketball says yes we would.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:07 PM (vV/gB)

Or pool.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (9BLnV)

140 I've said it before, and here is one more time.

The tragedy of science is that a beautiful theory can be killed by one ugly fact.

True then, true today, and true tomorrow.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (hyuyC)

141 128---Clarke's third law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)
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Thank you!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (0jtPF)

142 Anonosaurus Wrecks, thanks for the book suggestion. I've never been a huge sci-fi fan but Teh Horde is slowly converting me. 'Preciate the rec.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (atTnz)

143 ''I planned to tell him that to his face, but apparently he left before I could confront him.''

I suspect he left because he knew he would be confronted about that statement by someone or multiple someones. Cowards do that.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (jm1YL)

144 Nonetheless, he started an invited talk by apologizing to the audience for Trump. It was the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen. I planned to tell him that to his face, but apparently he left before I could confront him.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:03 PM (T6t7i)
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Ugh. It's disappointing to me how many stories like this we hear. If we conservatives managed to hold it together through 8 years of Obama ruining our country, they should be able to hold it together for the (hopefully) 8 years of Trump putting our country back together again.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (JJZzu)

145 For what it's worth, the "long-term volcanic eruption" is the one replaced by the "impact theory", and the Alvarezes (father and son) were mocked for years about their silly "asteroid fairy tale", until a 65 million year old 200-mile wide crater was discovered, but even then the theory was slow to become "accepted science".

Posted by: Spiny Norman at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (YJhzI)

146 Wikipedia is usually fastidious about saying how endangered an animal is, rating it from Least Concern to Extinct. None of the dinosaurs are labelled Extinct, they omit the rating.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (/qEW2)

147
Bone was part of a mososaur.



Hey, hey, hey. We're not judgy here.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (T6t7i)

148 ''Dinosaurs chose to transition to birds. They be woke.''

LOL

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (jm1YL)

149 If we stopped believing in gravity, would we be able to float?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (vV/gB)

150 The Ice Ball Earth is a scarier possible event than the asteroid or volcano theories.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (yQpMk)

151 If anyone in science or describing science claims that they have certainty or absolute answers, much less attacks you for doubting or disagreeing whatever the topic then they are doing bad science and at least to some degree don't understand the discipline. Yes, even evolution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2018 01:08 PM (39g3+)

Does that include the hollow earth theory?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (9BLnV)

152 149. That was O'brien's point.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (fA1SL)

153 Its good that science is reluctant to accept new theories, it should be deliberate and slow, testing and questioning and challenging. Jumping on a bandwagon too quickly is how you get ALAR scares and Global Warming hysteria. It might be sweet for funding but its not going to give you good results.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

154 creeper, I also left you a suggestion in the book thread - the Nero Wolfe mysteries by Rex Stout. They're exactly like what you described you're looking for. They're old, but that's a positive for me.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM (JJZzu)

155 Bone was part of a mososaur.
Hey, hey, hey. We're not judgy here.


Although it might explain why they're extinct.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (T6t7i)

156 If women make $.80 for every $1.00 a man makes then why don't companies fire all the men and just hire more women?

Help me out science.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (/tuJf)

157 132
Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 19, 2018 01:06 PM (hyuyC)
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I knew there'd be a helpful smarty-pants or two here!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (0jtPF)

158
I wonder what stupid resolution the Cuck-Led Senate will pass unanimously this week...

Hey, how about a Senate resolution stating illegal invaders "are not animals!"


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (769qx)

159 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?

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One well known dino scientist is adamant that birds are dinos, not descended from dinos or like dinos, but dinos. Everything we use to define what a dino is is present in birds.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/Ru)

160 137: Right there with you, grammie.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (KP5rU)

161 If gender is just a social construct why do people march for women's rights?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (/tuJf)

162
On a simpler level, all of those clowns agitating for electric cars --- do they think electricity comes from unicorns?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille


I've recently been seeing a TV commercial for electric cars. Not a particular brand, just electric cars in general.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (IqV8l)

163 I am not an animal!

Posted by: John Merrick at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (NWiLs)

164 145 For what it's worth, the "long-term volcanic eruption" is the one replaced by the "impact theory", and the Alvarezes (father and son) were mocked for years about their silly "asteroid fairy tale", until a 65 million year old 200-mile wide crater was discovered, but even then the theory was slow to become "accepted science".
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Well if gravity increased you would see a lot of squirting of earths innards and gigantic animals would be hardest hit. The earth would become more compact as well. Toothpaste tube theory says so.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (vV/gB)

165
How about a Cuck Senate resolution stating the Russians did indeed meddle in the 2016 election!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (769qx)

166 If women make $.80 for every $1.00 a man makes then why don't companies fire all the men and just hire more women?

Help me out science.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (/tuJf)
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You're the CFO of your company, aren't you.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (JJZzu)

167 I am personally acquainted with Dr. Alvarez, he is a great guy, you all would like him.
His most recent book is a real gem, too.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (w7KSn)

168 I ain't never seen a dinosaur. Has anybody?

Kinda, there are some paleo fish that have been discovered, and bugs that are still around. But dinosaurs as we think of them Jurassic Park style, no. Even with the African stories.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (39g3+)

169 One well known dino scientist is adamant that birds are dinos, not descended from dinos or like dinos, but dinos.

Uh-oh.

Posted by: Chicken farmers with an impeding sense of doom at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (T6t7i)

170 Speaking of junk science, what is going to be legal endpoint for the RoundUp verdict? That one really seems like a no-facts judgement.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

171 >>You're the CFO of your company, aren't you.

I'm just asking questions.

Like if crocs aren't gay why do they look so gay?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (/tuJf)

172
Would you like to buy some of my special velociraptor repellant? I have used it for years and have never seen a velociraptor.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2018 01:14 PM (LsBY9)

173 The Ice Ball Earth is a scarier possible event than the asteroid or volcano theories.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:10 PM


If you give some credence to 'Milankovitch cycles' of three separate cycles that occasionally inter lap in the worse possible way and pitch the planet into an ice ball, then the at-least two times it has already happened should keep you awake at night for the next hundred thousand years.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 01:14 PM (LOgQ4)

174 Ugh. It's disappointing to me how many stories like this we hear. If we conservatives managed to hold it together through 8 years of Obama ruining our country, they should be able to hold it together for the (hopefully) 8 years of Trump putting our country back together again.



Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018


bluebell, that is why they are so upset. Trump and the deplorable flyover country are ruining their plans for utopia.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 01:14 PM (pcnVL)

175 pep, it would be nice in such situations to have an opportunity to apologize for the *speaker's ignorant and inappropriate comments, and emphasize that in fact Americans present wanted to apologize to anyone present whose countries had suffered from the insanely misguided policies of the previous administration*.


But that's of course a question of context, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2018 01:14 PM (QDnY+)

176
Anyone else still waiting for all these miracle cures derived from Stem Cells??


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:15 PM (769qx)

177 what is going to be legal endpoint for the RoundUp verdict? That one really seems like a no-facts judgement.

Reminds me of the breast implant decision that wiped out silicone implants.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2018 01:15 PM (39g3+)

178
If women make $.80 for every $1.00 a man makes then why don't companies fire all the men and just hire more women?

MBA consultants and HR departments are working on how to do this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (LsBY9)

179 \

You know what does perform like a miracle cure, tho?

HGH. But guess who prevents it from being affordable and accessible.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (769qx)

180 OMG, Bluebell! I completely forgot about Nero Wolfe. Thank you SO much for the reminder.

I've blown through my book budget for the month already but Wolfe will go on the top of the list for September.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (atTnz)

181 Anyone else still waiting for all these miracle cures derived from fetalStem Cells??


FTFY. There are already treatments for leukemia and some other diseases using adult stem cells.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (yQpMk)

182 173. Ancient Slavonaut Overlords triggered the last ice age. Environmental engineering to make the climate more comfortable for them. And to reduce the chances of overheating in their Space Ladas.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (fA1SL)

183 Go with Ginger.
Posted by: My Best Freind at August 19, 2018 01:03 PM (TiIoH)

Yup....and Ginger smoked. Which meant back in the day she was fast and loose and knew how to keep her pie hole shut.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (EoRCO)

184 Speaking of junk science, what is going to be legal endpoint for the RoundUp verdict? That one really seems like a no-facts judgement.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

Monsanto and Bayer should simply withdraw all their products from sale in California. No more Roundup, no more Bayer Aspirin. Let the farms be choked by weeds, and the city slickers be plagued with headaches and other diseases.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (LI7AQ)

185 >>>Well...https://youtu.be/imNRmIujsPkPosted by: Bert G<<<
Damn you. That's it! Elon Musk and I have a date with Mars!

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (CdLX2)

186 179. It's the Icebacks and Fritz, ain't it?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (fA1SL)

187 I like to look at the crows and robins traipsing through my front yard and thinking that they are the descendants of dinosaurs still living today. How nice!

It's a lot more convenient than having tyrannosaurs and brontosaurs stomping around.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (sdi6R)

188 Ugh. It's disappointing to me how many stories like this we hear. If we conservatives managed to hold it together through 8 years of Obama ruining our country, they should be able to hold it together for the (hopefully) 8 years of Trump putting our country back together again.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 01:09 PM (JJZzu)


James Comey said that he was so ashamed of US immigration policies that he considered telling Irish customs officials that he was Canadian when he arrived back in June. Should've granted him his fondest wish and revoked his citizenship while he was overseas and let him find out at customs on the way back when he tried to enter the US without a visa.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)

189 somebody should ask keith richards what happened to the dinosaurs.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (KP5rU)

190 The Left makes the Rules. We gave them that authority.

The Left will continue to make The Rules about Science and Speech, etc. until we revoke their undeserved, unwarranted authority.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (769qx)

191 California seems to have laws only for people that have money and obey the laws.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (vV/gB)

192 175
pep, it would be nice in such situations to have an opportunity to
apologize for the *speaker's ignorant and inappropriate comments, and
emphasize that in fact Americans present wanted to apologize to anyone
present whose countries had suffered from the insanely misguided
policies of the previous administration*.


That's one way to go, of course. Me, I'd lean more towards "everything that guy just said is bulls***".

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (T6t7i)

193 ''One well known dino scientist is adamant that birds are dinos, not descended from dinos or like dinos, but dinos. Everything we use to define what a dino is is present in birds.''

I sat at an outdoor cafe on the sound side of the Outer Banks many years ago and watched a huge Blue Heron poking around for lunch. It's not a stretch of the imagination to see a dino in that particular bird.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (jm1YL)

194 You know what does perform like a miracle cure, tho?

HGH. But guess who prevents it from being affordable and accessible.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (769qx)


Big CBD Oil, that's who.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (y87Qq)

195 I've blown through my book budget for the month already but Wolfe will go on the top of the list for September.
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 01:16 PM (atTnz)
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creeper, check your library. Mine has all of them, or at least it seems like it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (JJZzu)

196
There are already treatments for leukemia and some other diseases using adult stem cells.

Are they as effective as the miracle drug called Marijuana? That shit can do anything. Just ask any pothead.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (769qx)

197 Speaking of junk science, what is going to be legal endpoint for the RoundUp verdict? That one really seems like a no-facts judgement.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

End result is lots and lots of cash for the tort attorneys to buy whores, yachts, fast cars and democrat politicians.

But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (EoRCO)

198 Reminds me of the breast implant decision that wiped out silicone implants.


I think this one is worse because the jury found that this plaintiff had his cancer caused by RoundUp. It's one thing to suggest that a chemical might be harmful to someone somewhere, that's what the EPA does all the time, and quite another to decide in this particular case it was so.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

199 James Comey said that he was so ashamed of US immigration policies that he considered telling Irish customs officials that he was Canadian when he arrived back in June...
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)


Shit. Some 70's hippies called and they want their schtick back.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 01:21 PM (T71PA)

200 171---Like if crocs aren't gay why do they look so gay?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:13 PM (/tuJf)
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I know I am deviating from the scientific consensus, but.....
Crocs do not look gay to me.
Dorky, okay, but not gay.
Gay men, at least the ones I know, do not wear plastic shoes. And they wear expensive ones.

The science is not settled.
We need a generous federal grant for further study.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:21 PM (0jtPF)

201 Are they as effective as the miracle drug called Marijuana? That shit can do anything. Just ask any pothead.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (769qx)

Heh. The only disease pot can cure is lackachoom, and even then, the cure is only temporary.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:21 PM (LI7AQ)

202 somebody should ask keith richards what happened to the dinosaurs.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (KP5rU)

They all OD'd on heroin. That's why Keith quit using.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (9BLnV)

203 Everything we use to define what a dino is is present in birds.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/Ru)


And yet, everything we use to define a Dino 246 GTS is not present in my garage.

*sigh*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (y87Qq)

204 Yup....and Ginger smoked. Which meant back in the day she was fast and loose and knew how to keep her pie hole shut.


I also learned the hard way not to date girls who smoke or chew tobacco.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (LGXGf)

205 Will do, bluebell. Kindle and Nook prices are pretty dear.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (atTnz)

206
Notice how all the anti-fracking junk science seems to have disappeared? I mean, people were turning on their kitchen faucets only to be greeted with flames!


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (769qx)

207 193
I sat at an outdoor cafe on the sound side of the Outer Banks many years ago and watched a huge Blue Heron poking around for lunch. It's not a stretch of the imagination to see a dino in that particular bird.
Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:18 PM (jm1YL)


Yeah, I saw one fly overhead once. It was startling how big and pterodactyl-looking it was.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (sdi6R)

208 Gay men, at least the ones I know, do not wear plastic shoes. And they wear expensive ones.



The science is not settled.

We need a generous federal grant for further study.


I suggest starting with the literature. In this case, Legally Blond.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (T6t7i)

209 Are they as effective as the miracle drug called Marijuana? That shit can do anything. Just ask any pothead.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (769qx)

Have you heard about the synthetic pot in Connecticut that cured to death some users?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (9BLnV)

210 "Scientists" gave us the food pyramid which is making us fat. They also told us eggs were going to kill us, to substitute margarine for butter because butter was going to kill us, and to stop drinking coffee because coffee was going to kill us.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (NWiLs)

211 There was an article here a few months ago that suggest that a very large percentage, like over 40%, of scientific 'studies' could not be replicated. That seems like a lot.
Posted by: Blutarski at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (+Tibp)


That was biomedical science, not science generally. (I do not include social science, which is basically weaponized agitprop, as far as I can tell.) Biomedical science is notoriously bad. Physics (apart from climastrology) and chemistry do not have a problem. It's important to keep that straight.

"Glenn Begley, former head of research at Amgen and roundtable panel member, spoke of his March revelation that the biotech company's scientists were unable to replicate the results of 47 out of 53 papers that were seminal to launching drug-discovery programs. "This is a systemic problem built on current incentives," he said according to Nature."

https://www.the-scientist.com/the-nutshell/sciences-reproducibility-problem-40031

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

212 Science never provides proof, it cannot. In a very literal sense. It can provide falsification, or a null result. Most interpret the null result as being "not inconsistent" with the hypothesis under test.

The problem as I see it, having been in this world for the first part of my career, is that most non-scientists, and even a fair number of scientists mistake non-falsification for "proof". We "know" for example, that the climate has been changing over geological timescales, as we've found direct physical evidence, as well as consistent proxy evidence, of this. The "know" in this case is not absolute certainty. It means, that there isn't a strong enough case being made by evidence for an alternative explanation.

Note: this doesn't mean the earth is getting warmer. This merely means we have evidence consistent with the hypothesis that over geological time scales, the climate environment of the earth has changed.

Doesn't sound like global warming now, does it?

The earth may have once been a snowball. There is some data, not conclusive, that this is possible. Not enough to state without doubt that there is strong non-contradictory evidence which supports this hypothesis.

Really, politics drives science. Egos drive science. Being in good with the right teams, and coming from the right schools, and right professors as advisors for Ph.D and postdoc matter ... far more than what it is you study or how skilled you are.

For people like me, having left that rat race, I decided that if I have to put up with assholes, I may as well get paid well to do so.

But yeah, real science is messy. And clubby. And often wrong.

Posted by: Uncle Al at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (t3YBx)

213 ''They all OD'd on heroin. That's why Keith quit using.''

You know the saying about what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? I think in Keith's case the maxim rings true times a hundred. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (jm1YL)

214 James Comey said that he was so ashamed of US immigration policies
that he considered telling Irish customs officials that he was Canadian
when he arrived back in June...

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)


Fine. Strip his ass of U.S. citizenship and put him on a tramp steamer bound for South America.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (yzxic)

215 Here's some really fun science. The powers that be have been curtailing both recreational and commercial fishing in the northeast for years. Some of it was probably justified, some an overreaction.

But the net effect has been a surge in the fish stock. Fishing has been excellent this summer and it is not slowing down.

It's been equally good around Cape Cod. More fish -> more seals -> more sharks. This is not exactly a new phenomena.

And now the powers that be are freaking out about what to do with the large increase in the number of large sharks cruising the beaches looking for a hookup.

Here we go round in circles.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (/tuJf)

216
Isn't it strange how "apolitical" Comey has become so political?
We were told by the Cucks that Comey was "stand up" and above politics.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (769qx)

217 I know from 2nd hand knowledge that Monsanto's lawyers wanted to go to trial on the Dioxin/Agent Orange cases. They were confident that they would win, but the company chose to settle, allowing the idea of the perils of dioxin to gain currency.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

218 All of those people out there with their fancy cellphones --- do they have any concept of processes behind them?
On a simpler level, all of those clowns agitating for electric cars --- do they think electricity comes from unicorns?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (0jtPF)


Heh. One thing that's puzzled me about electric cars - most people are not going to recharge them with windmills, they're going to plug them into an outlet. And then you'd get fossil fuels generating electricity to charge a battery to run a car. Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (/qEW2)

219
Can one of you fine gents or gent-ettes remind us of the exact quotes by the Republican Cucks vouching for comey and mueller?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:26 PM (769qx)

220 Notice how all the anti-fracking junk science seems to have disappeared? I mean, people were turning on their kitchen faucets only to be greeted with flames!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:22 PM (769qx)


Yep. Same thing with the anti-vaxxers and the silicone breast implant rubbish. Now onto Roundup, and the well-known public health menace, straws!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

221 I think this one is worse because the jury found that this plaintiff had his cancer caused by RoundUp. It's one thing to suggest that a chemical might be harmful to someone somewhere, that's what the EPA does all the time, and quite another to decide in this particular case it was so.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

I think you make an equally sound (i.e. unsound) argument that the plaintiff was responsible for his own cancer because some inherited chemical defect in his genetic code made him uniquely susceptible to Roundup, and he should have known better, and not handled the stuff. Should a person with an allergy to bee stings become a beekeeper?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:26 PM (LI7AQ)

222 Think I'll go watch the hummingbird wars while I work up enough enthusiasm to shorten the blinds I didn't do yesterday.

Keep yer hand on it, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (atTnz)

223 208---I suggest starting with the literature. In this case, Legally Blond.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (T6t7i)
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Y'no, I'm not sure that scene would be allowed today.
In fact, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (0jtPF)

224
Have you heard about the synthetic pot in Connecticut that cured to death some users?

I will not hesitate for a second to let you know that I laughed when I heard that story on Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (769qx)

225 ''Fine. Strip his ass of U.S. citizenship and put him on a tramp steamer bound for South America.''

No, South Africa. Much better place for him.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (jm1YL)

226 A million times YES!!!


As soon as someone says "the science is settled" you already know that what they're selling you is NOT, in fact, science.

Let's not even talk about Global Warming - it's just TOO obviously a complete rejection of the Scientific Method, in it's entirety.

A better example is The Big Bang Theory. That involves one of those sciences where you can't really conduct a bunch of experiments to test out a theory. You'd need the TARDIS from the Doctor Who TV show to really prove THIS theory. Everything is an educated guess, based on observations of extremely indirect evidence.

The Big Bang is spoken of, and taught as, "fact". That literally makes it the creation myth of a quasi-religion. If we were only talking science, we would be calling it a theory - no more than an educated guess, and the current scientific consensus on the matter - one that could be changed (whether on minor details, or completely replaced altogether) at any time, if new information or different fancy figuring points in a different direction.

Pretty much anything in certain other sciences, like archaeology or geology are the same way. Even evolution could experience a significant revision.

In fact, blowing up a theory is the second-most exciting thing a scientist can do. It means that there's some new insight into the secrets of the Universe that they need to uncover. It's literally what they live for.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (hOOi9)

227 I thought the new theory was an asteroid/meteor and the old theory was volcanoes.

Everything that was old is new again.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (n3xLS)

228 Can one of you fine gents or gent-ettes remind us of the exact quotes by the Republican Cucks vouching for comey and mueller?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:26 PM (769qx)


Not an exact quote, but I remember Krauthammer using the words "standup guy."

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 01:28 PM (T71PA)

229 218 All of those people out there with their fancy cellphones --- do they have any concept of processes behind them?
On a simpler level, all of those clowns agitating for electric cars --- do they think electricity comes from unicorns?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 01:04 PM (0jtPF)

Heh. One thing that's puzzled me about electric cars - most people are not going to recharge them with windmills, they're going to plug them into an outlet. And then you'd get fossil fuels generating electricity to charge a battery to run a car. Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (/qEW2)


I made exactly this point to some gal on the Web ("so where do we get the electricity from to charge the car?"), and she chirped back with scorn, "From batteries, you nitwit!"

I weep for the state of science education in this country.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:28 PM (YqDXo)

230 -
One well known dino scientist is adamant that birds are dinos, not descended from dinos or like dinos, but dinos. Everything we use to define what a dino is is present in birds.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:11 PM (+y/

I heard that a long time ago.
Maybe the size of bones expands after 50 million years?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 01:28 PM (y8Foj)

231 ...watched a huge Blue Heron poking around for lunch. It's not a stretch of the imagination to see a dino in that particular bird.

----

Ever watch a flock of roadrunners stalking cicadas? They were "triangulating" where the sound was coming from. They looked like the "velociraptors" in Jurassic Park. Spooky weird.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at August 19, 2018 01:28 PM (YJhzI)

232 Creeper
See my 256 on the book thread for a recommendation.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (cAmtF)

233 ''Think I'll go watch the hummingbird wars while I work up enough enthusiasm to shorten the blinds I didn't do yesterday.''

They are feisty little boogers aren't they? So much fun to watch.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (jm1YL)

234 I used to know a greenskeeper at a local golf course who said you can drink Round Up with no ill effects.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (EoRCO)

235 I think you make an equally sound (i.e. unsound) argument that the plaintiff was responsible for his own cancer because some inherited chemical defect in his genetic code made him uniquely susceptible to Roundup, and he should have known better, and not handled the stuff.

Or, as Occams razor slices it, it was just bad luck.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

236 213 ''They all OD'd on heroin. That's why Keith quit using.''
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They OD on unknown potency of heroin. That's why Keith always bought medical grad Heroin in bulk. FIFY.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (vV/gB)

237 Ever watch a flock of roadrunners stalking cicadas? They were "triangulating" where the sound was coming from. They looked like the "velociraptors" in Jurassic Park. Spooky weird.
Posted by: Spiny Norman at August 19, 2018 01:28 PM (YJhzI)


More like Jurassic Park used roadrunners as a model for their CGI.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 01:30 PM (T71PA)

238 Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (/qEW2)


Not necessarily. 25% is a decent thermal efficiency for an internal combustion engine burning gasoline. Fuel oil power plants can do 45%. But you lose some in T&D and converting from electrical to chemical to electrical to mechanical. But an internal combustion engine at idle is at 0% efficiency, while a battery-powered electric motor is pretty neutral.

So I don't know. It has to do with maths.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:30 PM (y87Qq)

239 James Comey said that he was so ashamed of US immigration policies
that he considered telling Irish customs officials that he was Canadian
when he arrived back in June...

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)

Did he raise a peep about Obama's immigration policies?
Either way, this guy is a jackwagon of the highest (lowest) order. Can't figure out who the most odious one is--Comey, Clapper or Brennan...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 01:31 PM (y8Foj)

240
Wait, Roadrunners are real?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:31 PM (769qx)

241 Closer ... Agnes.

Posted by: Science of the Lambs at August 19, 2018 01:31 PM (/qEW2)

242 The Big Bang is spoken of, and taught as, "fact". That literally makes it the creation myth of a quasi-religion. If we were only talking science, we would be calling it a theory - no more than an educated guess, and the current scientific consensus on the matter - one that could be changed (whether on minor details, or completely replaced altogether) at any time, if new information or different fancy figuring points in a different direction.

Pretty much anything in certain other sciences, like archaeology or geology are the same way. Even evolution could experience a significant revision.

In fact, blowing up a theory is the second-most exciting thing a scientist can do. It means that there's some new insight into the secrets of the Universe that they need to uncover. It's literally what they live for.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 01:27 PM (hOOi9)

Thing is, as far as the Big Bang is concerned, nobody is demanding that we modify our behavior to our own detriment because of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:32 PM (LI7AQ)

243 Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.

Yes, although I suppose there might be an advantage if we had a method to sequester the byproducts like CO2, SO2, NO2 and CO generated at the central facility. That would almost certainly be easier than capturing them in individual sites, i.e. cars. Some methods for power plant gas capture exist, but I have no idea how efficient or expensive they are.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:33 PM (T6t7i)

244 >>Roadrunners are real?


Yep. Goofy fuckin' birds. Just like you would expect them to be.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (+upLV)

245 I wonder what Mrs. Comey is thinking while being mounted by a gigantic goofus?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (vV/gB)

246 I'm not sure what science is but I know it's settled.

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (Tyii7)

247 Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 01:25 PM (/qEW2)


Using wind-generated electricity to power cars would be fine, though, because at least the windmills will keep those turtles cool.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (y87Qq)

248 Gotta run, but just wanna mention that destructive criticism has a valid part to play, in science as in life generally. People are busy, and often aren't going to spend much or any time on the first thing they've ever heard from (relative) nobodies. Keeps things from getting all flibbertygibbetty.

Posted by: BJM at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (O74hG)

249
My patience, today, for bullshit and Totalitarianism is nil.


Some kid uploaded a vid of himself flying his camera drone and, sure enough, the internet police show up to tell "you can't do that!"

Sick of these fucks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (769qx)

250 If I were on a smoking cancer victims jury, I would have to acquit the tobacco companies, even though I believe smoking can cause cancer. The problem is that the defense need only show someone who has smoked for sixty years without cancer, and someone with lung cancer that never smoked. At that point, I could not determine whether this case was tobacco induced, and it's the actual harm part of tort law that would compel me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (yQpMk)

251 They all OD'd on heroin. That's why Keith quit using.''
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They OD on unknown potency of heroin. That's why Keith always bought medical grad Heroin in bulk. FIFY.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (vV/gB)

And he got his cocaine from Merck.
But the real reason why Richard's is still alive is that he had "minders" who hung out with him--paid for by the Stones organization and the record company. It is said that he O]D'ed more than once---one time "fatally" and brought back. This may have happened in Toronto.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (y8Foj)

252 "Glenn Begley, former head of research at Amgen and roundtable panel member, spoke of his March revelation that the biotech company's scientists were unable to replicate the results of 47 out of 53 papers that were seminal to launching drug-discovery programs. "This is a systemic problem built on current incentives," he said according to Nature."

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SCIENCE DENIER!!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (+y/Ru)

253
Have you heard about the synthetic pot in Connecticut that cured to death some users?

Everything old is new again. The Brits hooked the Chinese on opium. Now they're feeding it to a former British colony. Us.

And absolutely nothing is being done to stop it.

Trade war? Ask me if I give a fvck.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (LOgQ4)

254
Yep. Goofy fuckin' birds. Just like you would expect them to be.


So they go meep, meep!, too?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (769qx)

255 I wonder what Mrs. Comey is thinking while being mounted by a gigantic goofus?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:34 PM (vV/gB)


Current consensus is that the gigantic goofus was hunted to extinction by early hominids.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (y87Qq)

256 I think this one is worse because the jury found that this plaintiff had his cancer caused by RoundUp. It's one thing to suggest that a chemical might be harmful to someone somewhere, that's what the EPA does all the time, and quite another to decide in this particular case it was so.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:20 PM (yQpMk)


So ... N = 1. It's generally impossible to decide definitively that something caused something in some one person, unless on exposure to it the person immediately keels over (and even that could be happenstance).

Looking at the structure of the compound in Roundup, it's hard to see how it would be carcinogenic. It consists of an ubiquitous amino acid (glycine) bonded to methylphosphonate, which is closely related to the ubiquitous phosphate anion.* Nothing in the compound looks like an obvious source of carcinogenicity (e.g., alkylating ability, large flat aromatic rings that can intercalate between base pairs, etc.)

* Note also the Roundup is sold as a concentrate because in dilute aqueous solution it hydrolyzes pretty quickly into those components.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

257 Or, as Occams razor slices it, it was just bad luck.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

Indeed. We are all targets in a cosmic shooting gallery, bombarded every day by high energy cosmic rays. Most of them go right through us without slowing down, but the odd one interacts with an atom, and destroys it. And in most cases, that event causes us no discernible damage. But if the destroyed atom happens to be part of one's cellular DNA, it could trigger cancer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:36 PM (LI7AQ)

258 247. THAT IS NOT HOW THEY WORK! - Host of Entertainment and Earth-Conquest, close personal friend of Nixon.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 01:36 PM (fA1SL)

259 Al Sharpton.

President Trump should appoint him as Director of the Department of Education.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (EoRCO)

260 If I were on a smoking cancer victims jury, I would have to acquit the tobacco companies, even though I believe smoking can cause cancer. The problem is that the defense need only show someone who has smoked for sixty years without cancer, and someone with lung cancer that never smoked. At that point, I could not determine whether this case was tobacco induced, and it's the actual harm part of tort law that would compel me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (yQpMk)

It must be a combination of smoking and genetic predisposition. Some people are just not hard -wired for a long-life.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (y8Foj)

261 >> I used to know a greenskeeper at a local golf course who said you can drink Round Up with no ill effects.


Carl Spackler?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

262
btw, people will actually FINK on you if they see something they don't like on your youtube vids.

I don't mean they Fink on you to youtube; they Rat on you to the Feds.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (769qx)

263 Communism will return us to the good old days of a flat Earth.

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 19, 2018 01:38 PM (Tyii7)

264 247. THAT IS NOT HOW THEY WORK! - Host of Entertainment and Earth-Conquest, close personal friend of Nixon.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 19, 2018 01:36 PM (fA1SL)


Nixon's pro-war and pro-family.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:38 PM (y87Qq)

265 Nothing in the compound looks like an obvious source of carcinogenicity
(e.g., alkylating ability, large flat aromatic rings that can
intercalate between base pairs, etc.)



Perhaps, but rats force-fed kg quantities of Roundup a day suffer very high mortality. Denier.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:38 PM (T6t7i)

266 Thing is, as far as the Big Bang is concerned, nobody is demanding that we modify our behavior to our own detriment because of it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:32 PM (LI7AQ)

There are those who use it as a cudgel to beat those stupid Christ-tards and their idiotic belief in creation by their imaginary sky-friend.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

267 President Trump should appoint him as Director of the Department of Education.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (EoRCO)


That's Department of Edumacation.

Posted by: Al Sharpton's spell checker at August 19, 2018 01:39 PM (T71PA)

268
Another thing:

Do you know people in the USA are now being charged with Hate Crimes and "civil rights violations" based on things they SAY?

I shit you not: A drunken rant can get you charged with Hate Crimes by the local police here parts of USA if they say include, say, telling a non-white person to "go home" or whatever.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:39 PM (769qx)

269 Perhaps, but rats force-fed kg quantities of Roundup a day suffer very high mortality. Denier.


Fun fact: lab rats are deliberately bred to be susceptible to disease, including cancers.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:39 PM (yQpMk)

270 Carl Spackler?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

Hahaha...close. The guy's name was Dan Brown if I remember right.

And he drank anything and everything....a total booze bag.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 01:40 PM (EoRCO)

271 What's good enough for Kyrie Irving is good enough for me!

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 19, 2018 01:40 PM (Tyii7)

272 If Roundup caused cancer, every rancher in Montana would be a walking tumor.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (230eS)

273 Well, time for me to get on with my day. Later.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (LI7AQ)

274 Everytime I read something like this, I think of Robin Warren and Barry Marshall.

In the 80's they were viewed as crackpots and lunatics, in 2005 they were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine (yes Virginia, every so often the Nobel folks get something right) credited with the 1979 re-discovery of the bacterium Helicobacter pylori which is responsible for most forms of stomach ulcers.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (e8kgV)

275 210 "Scientists" gave us the food pyramid which is making us fat. They also told us eggs were going to kill us, to substitute margarine for butter because butter was going to kill us, and to stop drinking coffee because coffee was going to kill us.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 01:23 PM (NWiLs)


Hence my comment above re biomedical science.

The most toxic thing to which we're exposed every day?

Oxygen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (YqDXo)

276 Well, time for me to get on with my day. Later.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (LI7AQ)


Waitwait... we can just... do that? Stop reading and posting and... go do things?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 01:42 PM (y87Qq)

277 f I were on a smoking cancer victims jury, I would have to acquit the tobacco companies, even though I believe smoking can cause cancer. The problem is that the defense need only show someone who has smoked for sixty years without cancer, and someone with lung cancer that never smoked. At that point, I could not determine whether this case was tobacco induced, and it's the actual harm part of tort law that would compel me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:35 PM (yQpMk)


Or as we tobacco lawyers used to say, correlation is not causation.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2018 01:42 PM (Z48ZB)

278 I used to know a greenskeeper at a local golf course who said you can drink Round Up with no ill effects.

Well, it will certainly kill a ficus if it's in there.

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 19, 2018 01:42 PM (Tyii7)

279 You can own Jerry Lewis' personal .30spl S&W Model 60 for just under $3k.

http://bit.ly/2N2EwzM

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:42 PM (yQpMk)

280 There's Physics. All the rest is stamp collecting.

-Dr. Sheldon Cooper going neener neener neener

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 01:43 PM (cAmtF)

281 Thing is, as far as the Big Bang is concerned, nobody is demanding that we modify our behavior to our own detriment because of it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:32 PM (LI7AQ)



Incorrect.

I would like you to watch our new season, so I can keep collecting on my $1M per episode contract for several more years.

So, snap to it, Oilboy!

Posted by: Sheldon at August 19, 2018 01:43 PM (9q7Dl)

282 274 Everytime I read something like this, I think of Robin Warren and Barry Marshall.

In the 80's they were viewed as crackpots and lunatics, in 2005 they were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine (yes Virginia, every so often the Nobel folks get something right) credited with the 1979 re-discovery of the bacterium Helicobacter pylori which is responsible for most forms of stomach ulcers.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (e8kgV)


Yep. And the other one I think of is the downfall of the conservation of parity. It once stood alongside conservation of energy in the pantheon of physics concepts until an unfortunate experiment in 1956 showed that parity was NOT necessarily conserved.

It rocked the physics world. It was almost like someone building a real perpetual motion machine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:43 PM (YqDXo)

283 Pretty much anything in certain other sciences, like archaeology or geology are the same way.

-
One of the funniest, most enlightening archeology faux facts concerned the Mayans. Numerous pictures showed them being showered by rose pedals so they had to be ancient flower children unlike our own culture of violence. New fact, those rose pedals are actually drops of blood flying through the air from their sacrificial victims.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

284
Kofi Annan is mortadella.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:44 PM (769qx)

285 Or as we tobacco lawyers used to say, correlation is not causation.


in any particular case but, strong correlation can be the basis of policy. I could see banning the sale of tobacco based on the correlation of known health effects, while not being able to arrive at a guilty verdict in a particular tort.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

286 Perhaps, but rats force-fed kg quantities of Roundup a day suffer very high mortality. Denier.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2018 01:38 PM (T6t7i)


The rats probably drowned in the stuff.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:45 PM (YqDXo)

287 I saw Ptolemic Epicycles open for Rocket from the Crypt at The Bottom Line back in 94!
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (zevYT)


I saw Ptolemic Epicycles open for Five Platonic Solds in the Kepler's Cosmography tour.

Some styles get dated pretty fast.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 01:46 PM (2K6fY)

288
btw, where's the UN and NATO on that American Christian being held in Turkey??


Thanks a lot, Turds.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:47 PM (769qx)

289 Pretty much anything in certain other sciences, like archaeology or geology are the same way.

Observational sciences across the board (archaeology, geology, astronomy, economics) have a fundamental and insoluble epistemology problem, because good research practice involves use of positive and negative controls, and those are, of course, impossible in those subjects.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (YqDXo)

290 ''I would like you to watch our new season, so I can keep collecting on my $1M per episode contract for several more years. ''

I can honestly say that I've never watched an episode of that show.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (jm1YL)

291 Why do we keep the P in Ptolemic? Is this just to fuck with us?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (vV/gB)

292 Wouldn't it be more efficient to just use the fossil fuel directly? Ie. a normal car.

=======
External combustion at a power plant would produce less pollution than an internal combustion engine.
You also might be able to capture more energy from a given unit of fuel, although transmission loss through power lines probably makes that aspect a wash.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (cAmtF)

293 /sock

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (T71PA)

294 Norwegian Sewer Rat > Have-A-Heart Trap

Settled science.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 19, 2018 01:48 PM (r9UYA)

295 Monsanto had a fire and explosion at their Milan chemical plant that included having workers swimming for their lives in a flood of concentrated dioxin. The company had more experience with the real effects on people than anyone else.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:49 PM (yQpMk)

296 274 Everytime I read something like this, I think of Robin Warren and Barry Marshall.

In the 80's they were viewed as crackpots and lunatics, in 2005 they were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine (yes Virginia, every so often the Nobel folks get something right) credited with the 1979 re-discovery of the bacterium Helicobacter pylori which is responsible for most forms of stomach ulcers.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at August 19, 2018 01:41 PM (e8kgV)


Yes, I remember when ulcers were caused by "stress". The science was settled.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 01:49 PM (sdi6R)

297 yes

Posted by: Ptomaine Poisoning at August 19, 2018 01:49 PM (Tyii7)

298 297
yes

Posted by: Ptomaine Poisoning


Heh.

Posted by: Phthalocyanines at August 19, 2018 01:50 PM (T6t7i)

299 I am old enough to have not been taught the "asteroid hit the Yucatan and killed-off the dinosaurs" theory in elementary school.

Fads and fetishes.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 01:50 PM (3HNOQ)

300 As far as Round Up goes, why don't we feed a bunch of it to Bill Kristol and see what happens?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:50 PM (vV/gB)

301 LePetomaine!

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 01:51 PM (3HNOQ)

302 ''I saw Ptolemic Epicycles open for Five Platonic Solds in the Kepler's Cosmography tour. ''

You did? I'm jealous. The ticket prices must have stratospheric

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 01:51 PM (jm1YL)

303 I am old enough to have not been taught the "asteroid hit the Yucatan and killed-off the dinosaurs" theory in elementary school.



When I was a kid, atoms looked like a solar system, not a probability cloud.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:51 PM (yQpMk)

304 285 Or as we tobacco lawyers used to say, correlation is not causation.


in any particular case but, strong correlation can be the basis of policy. I could see banning the sale of tobacco based on the correlation of known health effects, while not being able to arrive at a guilty verdict in a particular tort.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:45 PM (yQpMk)


This.

I think for policy considerations we also need to employ the much-ignored risk-benefit calculation. There's no need to smoke, and so policy can reasonably be to discourage it, but there is a need for transportation. We collectively have decided that the latter need is worth sacrificing ca. 50,000 lives per year where there is absolutely no doubt that autos were directly involved in those deaths.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (YqDXo)

305
Wasn't there a salad dressing called Pfeiffer?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (769qx)

306 As far as Round Up goes, why don't we feed a bunch of it to Bill Kristol and see what happens?

He'd shit rainbows and dandelions.

Posted by: Ptomaine Poisoning at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (Tyii7)

307 161 If gender is just a social construct why do people march for women's rights?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2018 01:12 PM (/tuJf)


Funny you should use the term "social construct". I was just about to bring up a discussion that I was subjected to recently where "science" had declared that race is merely a "social construct", and doesn't really exist.

It just sounds to me like somebody made up a new verse to John Lennon's "Imagine". Or planted a sign in the ground that says "Welcome to Earth. This is a Race-Free Zone"

Of course, the same "intellectual geniuses" who pat themselves on the back as they proclaim this bit of dogma are the first ones to call you "racist" - simply for being white, or something. They don't seem to feel the need to explain how there can be such a thing as racism, if there's no such thing as race. Theirs is a Self-Awareness Free Zone, where irony is rendered completely invisible.

But hey - if you don't buy it, you're an anti-science Troglodyte!

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (hOOi9)

308 >>>So they go meep, meep!, too?<<<

I was watching the robins in my yard hunting for worms. Fascinating. But none of them managed to pulled out a Jurassic-age sandworm.

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (CdLX2)

309 God said "let there be.." and BANG, there it was.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 01:54 PM (n3xLS)

310 Having fun reading the volcanoes killed the dinasaurs story. I am pretty sure that New Testament versions of hell are virtually identical to Old Testament version of hell.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 01:54 PM (3HNOQ)

311
Do you know people in the USA are now being charged with Hate Crimes and "civil rights violations" based on things they SAY?

========
Hallelujah! We've reached the promised land!

Posted by: Democrats at August 19, 2018 01:54 PM (cAmtF)

312 Cereal question - in Spainish or Latin is the word toothpaste tube gendered as a male or female?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 01:54 PM (vV/gB)

313 Funny you should use the term "social construct". I was just about to bring up a discussion that I was subjected to recently where "science" had declared that race is merely a "social construct", and doesn't really exist.

OK. Let's dismantle the EEOC and all affirmative action programs, since they address something that doesn't exist. After all, there is no Department of Phlogiston, is there?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 01:55 PM (YqDXo)

314 Responding to those asking about the size of animals: the largest dinosaurs were pushing 100 tons; adult blue whales can be almost twice as heavy. Land mammals never got that big, though there were some giant rhino things that went extinct that were about 20 tons.

As for the Permian extinction.... well, they did actually find a crater (a really huge crater) made at the right time to do it. It's just under the ice in Antarctica, which is how it escaped detection until this weird anomaly in earth gravity was mapped out... as I said, a huge crater.

It may be relevant to the "impact sparks eruptions on other side of globe" theory you are developing here that siberia and Antarctica are on opposite sides of the globe, kind of like the Yucatan and India. Of course, continents move around over that long a time scale, do who knows, but it's suggestive.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 01:56 PM (d0Ce4)

315
*Lightbulb*

I'm doing laundry now and just had a brilliant thought. Instead of wasting Heat, the dryer exhaust should do a loop BACK into the drum and then go outside.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:56 PM (769qx)

316 I was watching the robins in my yard hunting for
worms. Fascinating. But none of them managed to pulled out a
Jurassic-age sandworm.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 01:52 PM (CdLX2)


I was planning on planting ginko and cycads in my yard for dinosaurs because I have been told for years by conservationists that if you bring the habitat back you can bring the populations back.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 01:57 PM (2K6fY)

317
I mean, it makes no sense to pump out all that HEAT outside when it could be used to help fry the laundry.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:57 PM (769qx)

318 in Spainish or Latin is the word toothpaste tube gendered as a male or female

Blasphemy. To the gallows with him.

Posted by: The Gender Storm Troopers at August 19, 2018 01:58 PM (Tyii7)

319 >>>Kofi Annan is mortadella.<<<

Isn't that a cheese? Or is that one of those Italian coldcuts David Brooks told us about? Mor- ta - del - la!

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 01:58 PM (CdLX2)

320 Cereal question - in Spainish or Latin is the word toothpaste tube gendered as a male or female?

It's el tubo de whatever, isn't it?

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2018 01:58 PM (9uM40)

321 I really would like to see our justice system reversed whereby the judge determines guilt based on the facts and the law, and the jury decides the punishment, or lack thereof. This would still retain the jury-of-your-peers aspect of our system, and it might help with ignorant jurors deciding scientific validity.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:59 PM (yQpMk)

322 My favorite example of the proof / truth problem is all the old star maps that had the planets doing crazy loop-de-loop orbits because they were created with the premise that the Earth was at the center of the universe. They were amazingly predictive, yet completely wrong. I have a feeling quantum physics is in the same situation.

Posted by: Captain Carl at August 19, 2018 02:00 PM (OKwGO)

323 tube of toothpaste in Spanish is masculine.

Why are you asking?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:00 PM (2K6fY)

324 >>I'm doing laundry now and just had a brilliant thought. Instead of wasting Heat, the dryer exhaust should do a loop BACK into the drum and then go outside.


You'll have to deal with the moisture.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 02:00 PM (ika5Z)

325 ''It just sounds to me like somebody made up a new verse to John Lennon's "Imagine".

Good lord, I hate that song and as I don't want to get it stuck in my head I'm exiting to the community rec center to bicycle off my dinner last night. Regrettably, all the TVs will be tuned to CNN so I hope the bikes on the outside rim are open. Yes, I live in what I call a suburban SSR. I keep my political allegiances on the down low.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2018 02:00 PM (jm1YL)

326 *Lightbulb*

I'm doing laundry now and just had a brilliant thought. Instead of wasting Heat, the dryer exhaust should do a loop BACK into the drum and then go outside.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 01:56 PM (769qx)
_____________________

It would be necessary to extract the moisture first.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2018 02:01 PM (n3xLS)

327 What the volcano advocates don't mention is the fact that one of the primary causes of volcanic traps is an asteroid impact so large that it penetrates the crust - such as the impacts that caused the lunar Mare. In fact, they are very hard pressed to come up with another plausible cause for things like the Deccan and Siberian traps.
The evidence for such a large impact is lost in the Volcanic flows that occur afterwards.

Posted by: An Observation at August 19, 2018 02:01 PM (le57Z)

328
The dryer can handle the moisture one more time around, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:01 PM (769qx)

329 tubo de pasta de dientes.

Spanish think toothpaste is pasta.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 02:02 PM (vV/gB)

330 My neighbor is closing in on a new personal record. A continuous two hours and counting with that f'n turboprop leaf blower of his. My head is ready to explode.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2018 02:02 PM (Tyii7)

331 >>I'm doing laundry now and just had a brilliant thought. Instead of wasting Heat, the dryer exhaust should do a loop BACK into the drum and then go outside.


You'll have to deal with the moisture.



You could use it in a heat exchanger to preheat the air going to the heating coils.

I have a feeling that some dryers already do this.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:02 PM (yQpMk)

332 321 I really would like to see our justice system reversed whereby the judge determines guilt based on the facts and the law, and the jury decides the punishment, or lack thereof. This would still retain the jury-of-your-peers aspect of our system, and it might help with ignorant jurors deciding scientific validity.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 01:59 PM (yQpMk)

I don't know. Concentrated idiocy/vindictiveness/corruption versus potentially diluted idiocy/vindictiveness/corruption. People suck.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2018 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

333
The dyer's drum is hot; it can evaporate a lot of that moisture.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:02 PM (769qx)

334 I live in Central WA and am surrounded by the evidence of the giant lava flows that spread across the Northwest between 17 and 6 million years ago. These are puny compared to the Deccan flows. I don't think they were large enough for a mass extinction event although locally things were screwed. The basalt that erupted, from long fissures east of here was identical to the Iceland and Hawaiian flows of today. I saw, somewhere, don't recall where, sorry, that the Siberian flows actually started the break up of Pangea. I don't know if that is anything more than the result of a drunken geology party or not. To say that the science is settled is idiotic. I also thought the gratuitous swipe at President Trump was dumb. I understand her passion for her work but it is reduced in my eyes by the name calling on all sides. Get a grip people and try to act like adults.

Posted by: Winston at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (wgCUV)

335 tubo de pasta de hombre

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (vV/gB)

336
I have a feeling that some dryers already do this.

What do you mean, like someone traveled into the Future, read my idea here, and already implemented it?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (769qx)

337 Q: "How did you find Tutu?"
Reagan: "So-so."

Q. "How did you find Cenk?"
Cruz: "Sunk."

Q: "How did you find Kofi?"
Haley: "Lukewarm."

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (Ndje9)

338 101
Argentinosaurus was the size of about 20 elephants...



from National Geographic

Posted by: MarkY at August 19, 2018 12:57 PM (8Vxlz)

Is this the Titanosaur?
I read that the Field Museum in Chicago is assembling one they got from Argentina, placing it in the spot Sue occupied. (Sue is being moved to another location.)

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (8iiMU)

339 >>The dryer can handle the moisture one more time around, I think.


The system itself will need a place to collect and remove the moisture.

Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2018 02:04 PM (ika5Z)

340 So, the asteroid that hit the Yucatan CAUSED the volcanoes all over?

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 02:04 PM (3HNOQ)

341 What do you mean, like someone traveled into the Future, read my idea here, and already implemented it?


It goes without saying.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

342 Actually a form of heat exchanger where the exhaust would pre-heat the fresh incoming air might help with that without running extra moisture into the system.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:04 PM (2K6fY)

343 I was in WA when Mt. St. Helen's went off. I can't imagine what the Yellowstone Caldera would do.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 02:05 PM (pcnVL)

344 Re: Big Bang

Whenever you see people using the big bang as a cudgel against the religious, remind the supposed "science" zealot that guys like him opposed that theory to begin with because they claimed the priest who proposed it only did it to smuggle Genesis back into the academy and it's stupid to believe the universe could have actually had a beginning, you anti science simpleton.

Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:05 PM (d0Ce4)

345 "... Can't figure out who the most odious one is--Comey, Clapper or Brennan...
Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 01:31 PM (y8Foj)"


I vote for Brennan.

He's theorized to have been the mastermind of the conspiracy, and he's a f-ing Communist. Just today I saw Giuliani being interviewed, and the subject of Brenner's clearance came up. One of the things he mention was how crazy it was to have an avowed Communist sympathizer working at the CIA back during the Cold War, much less ever put him in charge.

People still don't seem to grasp how we just had 8 years of a card-carrying Socialist in the White House, and that there are implications of that. Given Obama's admitted drug use and Communist associates, I seriously doubt if HE would have qualified for a TS security clearance, if he didn't automatically get one as POTUS. We're only scratching the surface on the implications of that horrendous mistake - a mistake created by the endless Leftist propaganda in the media.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (hOOi9)

346 "gratuitous swipe at President Trump "

Dunning-Krueger in action.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 02:06 PM (3HNOQ)

347 While working on my refrigerator, I noticed that the drain pan for any defrosting melt water is placed so that the coil fan will draw air over it, and will just nip into the water, if it's full enough, and fling some into the airstream flowing over the condensor coils. This causes it to evaporate and you don't have to empty the pan very often, if at all.

Clever.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (yQpMk)

348 I can't imagine what the Yellowstone Caldera would do.

I can imagine it. I have seen it on "the End of History" Channel.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (3HNOQ)

349 I get into this with people all the time who claim to worship at the alter of science. Such people cannot distinguish a fact from a conjecture or a hypothesis from a theory or a law from theory or truth from fact. It is maddening to see these intelligent, but ignorant asses rigidly hold on to hypotheses and theories as if they were facts and laws. The media including entertainment media greatly contributes to this phenomenon. And don't even let me get started on the educated/indoctrinated morons who cannot distinguish the philosophical concept of absolute truth from fact because it is has been drilled into their collective heads that "there are no absolutes."

Posted by: Locke Common at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (ABxG1)

350 Thing is, as far as the Big Bang is concerned, nobody is demanding that we modify our behavior to our own detriment because of it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 01:32 PM (LI7AQ)


True. Really, the reason they put it forward as immutable "fact" instead of mutable theory is to give a big, fat "FU" to competing Christian creation myths.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (hOOi9)

351 "So, the asteroid that hit the Yucatan CAUSED the volcanoes all over? "

That is the current thinking in some circles.
Seems to satisfy both theories.
But, I wasn't there.
Vic maybe was.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (w7KSn)

352 Off, foul political sock.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 02:09 PM (cAmtF)

353
Clever.

Indeed.

Currently, my freezer is building up ice. I suspect the Drain Hole to be clogged.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:09 PM (769qx)

354 Let's see:
A big anti nuclear power bloc because of the China Syndrome movie.

Outlawing alar insecticide because Meryl Streep played a farmer and brought her bio chemistry expertise to a Congressional hearing.Destroying

Destroying the effective, affordable incandescent light bulb industry for some stupid reason.

The death of how many millions of people because of the BS from Rachel Carson and banning DDT.

Making utilities less effective and more expensive like freon, 'efficient' toilets, etc. Based on alarmist, unproven shit about water running out, destroying the ozone layer, or acid rain. (When is the last time you heard about acid rain in the news?)

The obvious lies about climate change that firgets about little influences like the sun. Not to mention the industry built around all those grants and studies. Of course a profit motive would never be an influence.

Plastic straws destroying the planet.

The government 'food pyramid' that is likely a major cause for so much diabetes.

And we are supposed to accept what scientists say as gospel and the government interference in our lives that result. I am so tired of this shit.

I'm old enough to remember when 'theory' meant a possibility not a fact.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 02:10 PM (V+03K)

355 The Horde is third:
https://tinyurl.com/ycezaqgb
Long live the Horde!
We love you ace.
Sexually and non-sexually.




Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 19, 2018 02:10 PM (8iiMU)

356 I also thought the gratuitous swipe at President
Trump was dumb. I understand her passion for her work but it is reduced
in my eyes by the name calling on all sides. Get a grip people and try
to act like adults.
Posted by: Winston at August 19, 2018 02:03 PM (wgCUV)


I remember the original roll out and following controversy about the K/T impact and watched reports and read articles, and hearing any follower of Luis Alvarez today accusing anyone who doesn't agree with them of grandstanding and being a showman over a scientist to be laughable.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:10 PM (2K6fY)

357 Infidel
According to my friendly local geology prof Yellowstone Hot Spot, as it's called now, has been around a long time. The current theory is that the hot spot is stationary and the North American Plate moves over it. Tracing back across the Idaho, Oregon and Nevada geography it's possible to see a series of caldera's attributed to that spot. The evidence sited shows that an eruption would destroy everything for a 140 mile radius. The resulting lava flows and gas emissions would do a lot of harm but probably not extinction level world wide. It's going to suck to be in the central basin in Wyoming for certain.

Posted by: Winston at August 19, 2018 02:11 PM (wgCUV)

358 dinosaurs were large because there was a higher level of oxygen in the air.

Posted by: mjc at August 19, 2018 02:11 PM (Pg+x7)

359 Palaeontology is just archaeology as applied to nonhumans.



Vox Day (a former programmer) is right that "science" is too broad a
term to be much useful. Useful science is engineering. Palaeontology is
about dead things and so isn't directly useful, in the same way knowing
about the Holocaust isn't directly useful.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2018 12:46 PM (N1ZXu)
Over the past few years I've come to use the term Natural Philosophy for the sciences one can't experimentally prove hypotheses with. The funny thing is, it's subject to change. Linneaen taxonomy is Natural Philosophy but with DNA analysis biological taxonomy has become science. Paleontology and Archeology have hypotheses that make sense and may be true but we can never really "prove" them by observation or experiment. Hence, Natural Philosophy.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at August 19, 2018 02:11 PM (FfJxM)

360 >>Currently, my freezer is building up ice. I suspect the Drain Hole to be clogged.

If it's a Samsung or Kitchenaid it's best to put it out of its misery with HE explosives and buy LG.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 19, 2018 02:12 PM (r9UYA)

361 Volcanoes are basically pimples.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 02:13 PM (vV/gB)

362
It's a Kenmore!


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:13 PM (769qx)

363 >>It's a Kenmore!

It must also be destroyed.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 19, 2018 02:14 PM (r9UYA)

364 Let's see:
Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 02:10 PM (V+03K)


No list is complete without the new gas can nozzles, however tangentially related.

I hate those so much. Holy shit. So much.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:14 PM (y87Qq)

365

Nood??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:14 PM (769qx)

366 364 Let's see:
Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 02:10 PM (V+03K)

No list is complete without the new gas can nozzles, however tangentially related.

I hate those so much. Holy shit. So much.
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Yep. We have ethanol to thank for that.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (vV/gB)

367 It's a Kenmore!


Which means that is a Whirpool.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 19, 2018 02:15 PM (yQpMk)

368 There is a picture of Keller. Kind of looks like a very old William Hurt.

But then, he is kinda old too. She didn't put on the pounds.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 02:16 PM (3HNOQ)

369 recently astronomers studying the collision of massive black holes in a far off galaxy reported that their calculations of the gravitational waves produced confirmed einstein's theory of relativity - they were hoping that a variance woulkd lead to a reassessment of the theory.

so, the theory of relativity is still open to challenge after 100 years of proven validity. but agw cannot be challanged.

Posted by: mjc at August 19, 2018 02:16 PM (Pg+x7)

370 >>>I get into this with people all the time who claim
to worship at the alter of science. Such people cannot distinguish a
fact from a conjecture or a hypothesis from a theory or a law from
theory or truth from fact. It is maddening to see these intelligent, but
ignorant asses rigidly hold on to hypotheses and theories as if they
were facts and laws. The media including entertainment media greatly
contributes to this phenomenon. And don't even let me get started on the
educated/indoctrinated morons who cannot distinguish the philosophical
concept of absolute truth from fact because it is has been drilled into
their collective heads that "there are no absolutes."


Posted by: Locke Common<<<

Whoa! You're harshing my buzz, brah!

Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2018 02:18 PM (CdLX2)

371 344 Re: Big Bang

Whenever you see people using the big bang as a cudgel against the religious, remind the supposed "science" zealot that guys like him opposed that theory to begin with because they claimed the priest who proposed it only did it to smuggle Genesis back into the academy and it's stupid to believe the universe could have actually had a beginning, you anti science simpleton.
Posted by: Locarno at August 19, 2018 02:05 PM (d0Ce4)


That reminds me. The Big Bang Theory is actually such a terrible theory that is almost be rejected outright.

Think about it - it raises as many questions as it answers. "What caused the Big Bang to bang?" [that, embarassingly, practically invites a supernatural causation]. "How did something - and by 'something', I mean literally EVERYTHING just simply pop into existence, all of a sudden?"

It's kind of ridiculous. But don't get me wrong - I'm not some Creationist.

People accept it the same way they accept the religious explanations. They don't (and really CAN'T) understand it, and so they choose to believe what some authority figure tells them that the consensus of authority figures is.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 02:19 PM (hOOi9)

372 *nerd-hugs rickl and AOP*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2018 02:19 PM (m54Mo)

373 Winston- I'm further than that, but by some models I've seen we would get a lot of fall out and shitty air for some time.

Of course, it's all speculation.

Posted by: Infidel at August 19, 2018 02:19 PM (pcnVL)

374 The article just reinforces my belief that ANY theory is declared valid if you fold, spindle and mutilate the data properly.
Shoot, the giant volcanic field in India was the result of a spread of photonic torpedo from the lizard peoples ship that missed it's target. The giant crater in the Yucatan is the crash site of the battlecruiser HRGDSTRN that lost maneuvering power due to phaser hits of the engineering warp pylons.
And I can prove it if I get to only use my interpretation of known facts.

Posted by: CDC at August 19, 2018 02:19 PM (e1mEI)

375 349 I get into this with people all the time who claim to worship at the alter of science. Such people cannot distinguish a fact from a conjecture or a hypothesis from a theory or a law from theory or truth from fact. It is maddening to see these intelligent, but ignorant asses rigidly hold on to hypotheses and theories as if they were facts and laws. The media including entertainment media greatly contributes to this phenomenon.

Posted by: Locke Common at August 19, 2018 02:08 PM (ABxG1)


The one that drives me wild: casting Jeff Goldblum as the archetypal scientist in every movie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

376
Which means that is a Whirpool.

Which means it's a Maytag?

Yeah, Whirlpool owns a few brands, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 19, 2018 02:21 PM (HkNlg)

377 pasta de dientes.
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CREMA DENTAL

"Pasta" means....pasta! (Same as English, both borrowing from Italian of course.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (0jtPF)

378 Infidel
I'm well west of the blast zone from Yellowstone but at the least, I think the air would be pretty solid from dust and gas eruptions. Maybe another little ice age action? Since no one alive, perhaps save the Ancient Slavonauts, were around to write stuff down, a lot of it is guesswork and hypothesis. Not even theory.

Posted by: Winston at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (wgCUV)

379 Since there seems to be some confusion on this here, let's be clear:

1. A notion of how things might work, and hence a potentially useful line of future inquiry is a conjecture

2. A conjecture that has been firmed up enough to be testable experimentally is a hypothesis.

3. A hypothesis that has survived many, many experimental tests is a theory.

Laymen use "theory" to refer to any half-assed hunch or suggestion, and that's just inappropriate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

380 Building up ice? How is the refrigerator part?

The bottom freezer was working great but the fridge was warm

Turned out that the little fan that blows the cold freezer air into the fridge area was stuck by ice.

Using the big honking Ice chest that I bought when the power went out during Hurricane Matthew, I took everything out.

I saw that the coils in the freezer had not been defrosted by the heater. I used a hair drier to defrost those coils.

Turned it back on. Been working great since. I talked to a guy the owns an appliance store. He was great. I thought I needed something. I explained the problem and the solution. He said it happens sometimes. But rarely. Nothing for me to do.

I will go back there if I ever need service.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (3HNOQ)

381 It's kind of ridiculous. But don't get me wrong - I'm not some Creationist.

---

Perish the thought.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 19, 2018 02:26 PM (ZCD4H)

382 Todd said, Truth is a truth, Mr. Mayor do you realize this is going to become a bad meme.

Giuliani replied, No, no Don't do this to me.

Todd said, Don't do truth isn't truth to me.

Giuliani said, Donald Trump says I didn't talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says, You did talk about it. So tell me what the truth is if you're such a genius.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 02:28 PM (1UZdv)

383 One time we lowly lab techs were debating science vs religion as methods of understanding the universe. I argued for the usefulness of both. A young, just out of school colleague stated she would take science over religion because nothing in science was accepted on faith, it was all proven. I reminded her that it was all theory based on the current best understanding of the data, and that in fact in the end science was also a leap of faith. She wouldn't talk to anyone for the rest of the shift.

Posted by: Grannysaurus Rex at August 19, 2018 02:33 PM (lvhnO)

384 Science can't explain "why," the most important question of all.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 02:35 PM (1UZdv)

385 Late to the game, but will note that I have a new excuse for sick leave -- Paleo-weltschmerz.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (kQs4Y)

386 379 Since there seems to be some confusion on this here, let's be clear:

1. A notion of how things might work, and hence a potentially useful line of future inquiry is a conjecture

2. A conjecture that has been firmed up enough to be testable experimentally is a hypothesis.

3. A hypothesis that has survived many, many experimental tests is a theory.

Laymen use "theory" to refer to any half-assed hunch or suggestion, and that's just inappropriate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 19, 2018 02:24 PM (YqDXo)


You left out:
4. Unless it's about Global Warming, in which case we skip straight to "Settled Science", without bothering with all those other inconveniences. Note that there's no such thing as "Settled Science" outside of climatology.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 02:40 PM (hOOi9)

387 I sat at an outdoor cafe on the sound side of the Outer Banks many
years ago and watched a huge Blue Heron poking around for lunch. It's
not a stretch of the imagination to see a dino in that particular bird.


Years ago in Florida I went to eat at an outdoor table and there was a Blue Heron that went from table to table. It wouldn't take any thing off of plate - but if you put some of your food on the table it would eat that. Very intelligent eyes that would study you to see if you were likely to feed it.

Posted by: An Observation at August 19, 2018 02:42 PM (le57Z)

388 384 Science can't explain "why," the most important question of all.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 02:35 PM (1UZdv)


That's because there is no "why"- it actually IS a sort of "social construct". "Why" suggests "purpose", and purpose suggests the involvement of thinking being doing something for a REASON. Most of the Universe is simply there, and everything within most of it happens without human interaction - there's no "reason" to it because there's nobody even there.

So the all-important "Why" question isn't important at all, and is in fact actually completely irrelevant. If that makes you feel small, irrelevant, and pointless, than you just need to re-adjust your thinking about what makes one small, irrelevant and pointless.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (hOOi9)

389 I have a new excuse for sick leave -- Paleo-weltschmerz.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (kQs4Y)


Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (y87Qq)

390 Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (y87Qq)

I have people on the inside. They will type this into the sign-out log.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 02:51 PM (kQs4Y)

391 In the end, it will be earthquakes and ravenous jaguars that get us all. The Aztecs knew.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (jq0/v)

392 I took Rocks for Jocks from Dewey MacLean at Virginia Tech circa 1985. He strongly advocated volcanic activity and mantle de-gassification as the mechanism for the dinosaur dieoff. Alvarez et al. tried to convince the geology department at VT to deny him tenure for that. Alvarez was just an example of the kind of nasty backbiting you find in academia, even the sciences.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (1FhAQ)

393 Keller is merely looking to replace one giant smoking gun, the asteroid in Yucatan, with another giant smoking gun, volcanoes, to explain in one simple swoop why dinosaurs went extinct.

I see Anosaurus Wrecks has mentioned Robert T. Bakker, Ph.D already. Before buying off on Keller's opinion read Bakker's book The Dinosaur Heresies which was originally published in 1986. The area of interest starts in page 432 of my 1992 Zebra edition.

Bakker cites the Judith River/Scollard/Edmonton-Hell Creek Formations and the types of fossil dinosaurs found in each and how there was a decline in the number of species. He talks how in the Judith River formation there were three different duck-bill dinosaurs to be found, but in the Scollard and Edmonton-Hell Creek formations, only one is found and in fact by Edmonton-Hell Creek Triceratops was literally the big kid in the fossil record with 70-80% representation. Bakker talks about three years of study of other records across the globe that show the same decline happening as the environment itself evolves from being supportive of such fauna to being detrimental, he even mentions the the Gorgons who along with 90% of life went extinct 250 million years ago.

While the native populations were in decline on land, the seas were also changing and marine dinosaurs fared equally as badly. Some of the shallow seas became land bridges which allowed distinct species of dinosaurs to mingle, suddenly creatures only seen in Mongolia were in North America because of the Bering Land Bridge. And like Cortez meeting the Aztecs the newcomers brought diseases the locals had no defense against while the local land might not have defenses against the newcomers who's population then explodes much like rabbits in Australia.

So according to Bakker, be it asteroid or volcano, either was merely the denouement to a drama that had been heading to an end for millions of years.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 19, 2018 04:17 PM (y4EGh)

394 CBD, my training reflects that of your friend's.

I remember my profs drilling into us that you can only "reject" or "fail to reject" the hypothesis. They made if very clear that you never "accept" the hypothesis and provided several examples/case studies. The word "accept" was verboten in those stats/scientific method classes.

I'm sure most of them were liberal but they held onto fundamental science theory (also helps that the school is in conservative country). How times have changed.

Posted by: batter at August 19, 2018 06:27 PM (6k/jH)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-19-2018

rockingham library.jpg
Rockingham Public Library, Bellows Falls, VT

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I don't understand why anyone would want to wear. They don't look comfortable, they're ugly, and if you suddenly need to run, you'll be doing an instant faceplant.


Pic Note

This week's photo is courtesy of a lurking moron who spent most of his childhood hanging out in this library. This was back in the days when you had to look up stuff in massive card catalogs. More here, but the site navigation is somewhat cumbersome.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

To BRATTLE is to squander your money.

Usage: Is it a coincidence that Mary Cloggenstein lives in Brattleboro, VT?

Library - anime.jpg

(h/t to the moron who sent me this a long time ago, I forget exactly who it was, I'm guessing it was probably The Political Hat)



Looks Interesting

I discovered How to Survive an Active Shooter, 2nd Edition: What You do Before, During and After an Attack Could Save Your Life (Conversations) by Jacquelyn Lynn from a review posted on votermom's blog. It asks the question "Would you know what to do if someone started shooting?" It gives pointers on:

•What you should do when someone starts shooting

•What you can do if escape isn’t possible

•Why it’s dangerous to keep your cell phone with you

•What a kill box is and how to avoid being in one

•How to defend yourself against an active shooter

•Why playing dead can get you killed

•What weapons, other than firearms, attackers are using

•How to protect a house of worship

•What you should do before and after law enforcement arrives

The last item is a bit problematic. I've heard that during the Columbine shootings, the police stood around outside the school while the shooters blazed away. And we all know about the derelict sheriff's deputy at Parkland who thought sticking his head in the sand was the better part of valor. And of course, the answer is more gun control laws.

If I'm ever caught in one of these situations, I have to assume that law enforcement is not something I can count on to save me and my loved ones.

I understand that the Israelis teach that everybody needs to rush the shooter, even if no weapons are available. Because eventually the sheer weight of numbers will obstruct the shooter's progress.

Of course, the Israelis arm their school teachers, which undoubtedly helps.


Travel Books

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A lurking 'ette sent me this pic of books she took with her on a trip that involved a number of long flights. Along with her Kindle, she carried with her:

Island of Mad by Laurie King- liked the earlier ones better but this one was kind of fun since it was set in Venice and that is where I was headed.

The Word is Murder by Anthony Horowitz- better than expected since the author inserts himself into the story- I don't usually care for those kind of plots but this is done about as well as one can do those kind of things.

The War in the Dark- Nick Setchfield- nice moody historical fantasy with magic but characters did not ring true.

Lonely Planet Venice- solid historical summary and overview of major and minor attractions, but not great on shopping and eating recs.

first of the Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell- will be reading more of these- very sharp military scifi with engaging characters and plotting.

(And on her Kindle):

Young Trailers by Altsheler- loved these as a teenager and there are worse things a teenager could be reading now- strong male characters that value friendship and adventure but simplistic plots at times and awful dialogue.

Murder on the Oxford Canal by Martin- decent mystery setup for a series- will probably try a few more.


Moron Recommendation

Lurker Chuck e-mailed a couple of recommendations for WW I history:

Peter Englund’s “The Beauty and the Sorrow: An Intimate History of the First World War” is told through the eyes of twenty average men and women who participated in some way in the conflict. The perspectives are from all over the world, not just the Western Front. Very powerful.

Also Wade Davis’ “Into the Silence: The Great War, Mallory and the Conquest of Everest” about how the war affected the climbing expeditions of the 20s and 30s.

The Beauty and the Sorrow: An Intimate History of the First World War is available on Kindle for $14.99 (ouch), but you can buy the hardcover edition for 8.00.

The Amazon blurb describes Into the Silence: The Great War, Mallory, and the Conquest of Everest as

The definitive story of the British adventurers who survived the trenches of World War I and went on to risk their lives climbing Mount Everest.

The Kindle edition is $14.99, but used hardcover copies go for as low as $3.00.


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This week I finished The Hearts of Horses, by Molly Gloss, a look at the not-easy life of homesteaders in the 1917 Western U.S. -- an era not usually written about.

I recommended it for a maiden aunt just coming off a heart attack (she's 93) because I know she likes the Western genre and because it was "clean." Well, it was until the last 10 pages. Then the author felt compelled to wreck it with one stinking scene of "hot and bothered" characters. Ugh. Still recommended, but not for your genteel elderly aunt.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 12, 2018 09:08 AM (ihzOe)

This recommendation fit in well with the "books ruined by sex" theme I had going last week. Seems to me you can just tear out the last 10 pages before you give it to your elderly maiden aunt. The Amazon blurb calls this book an

...irresistible tale of nineteen-year-old Martha Lessen, a female horse whisperer trying to make a go of it in a man’s world. It was thought that the only way to break a horse was to buck the wild out of it, and broken ribs and tough falls just went with the job. But over several long, hard winter months, many of the townsfolk in this remote county of eastern Oregon witness Martha's way of talking in low, sweet tones to horses believed beyond repair—and getting miraculous, almost immediate results—and she thereby earns a place of respect in the community.

The Kindle edition of The Hearts of Horses is $9.99.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Currently on a re-read of The Sea of Time series by Stirling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

2 This week's photo is courtesy of a lurking moron who spent most of his
childhood hanging out in this library. This was back in the days when
you had to look up stuff in massive card catalogs. More here, but the site navigation is somewhat cumbersome.



I can remember looking for stuff in those massive card catalogs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 Rockingham Public Library, Bellows Falls, VT
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Say, isn't that where George Bailey is from?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:03 AM (CDGwz)

4 Hiya !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 09:03 AM (ieSH1)

5 Speaking of squandering... did so on a new 27" curved Samsung monitor.

Teh Horde looks so.... bigley.

Plus I don't need glasses, so there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (6qErC)

6 The only real way to protect citizens from shooters is concealed and open carry everywhere.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

7 Hello book threadists.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)

8 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)

9
I can remember looking for stuff in those massive card catalogs.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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When those were being sold off, I bought one at auction. I now have a handsome oak small-parts 'cabinet', all carefully labeled. The drawers are just the right size for holding molded plastic bins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (CDGwz)

10 I read Mayflower: A Story of Courage, Community, and War by Nathaniel Philbrick, which was recommended here a few weeks ago. Philbrick not only tells the history of the Pilgrims, their voyage to a new land, and their hardships during their first year and the first Thanksgiving; but he also describes in great detail their more than fifty years of peace with the native tribes. He goes on to describe the breakdown of that peace in 1675 which led to fourteen months of war. Well-written and researched, I learned much from reading this book.

Posted by: Zoltan at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (OZWZk)

11 I found a paperback copy of "The French Foreign Legion, A Complete History of the Legendary Fighting Force" by Douglas Porch during a recent trip to a used book store in my AO. Looks like it was printed in 1991.

I have read bits and pieces about the Legion here and there in my travels, but never a complete history.

Pretty thick and with pictures, 728 pages.

Gotta have pictures.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 09:08 AM (EoRCO)

12 Reading 'Horse Soldiers: The Extraordinary Story of a Band of U.S. Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan' by Doug Stanton. This book is about the deployment of the Green Berets of the 5th Special Forces Group to Northern Afghanistan shortly after the 9/11 attacks, the many difficulties getting there, and their joining forces with the Northern Alliance Warlords to defeat the Taliban/Al Qaeda.

For the first time in our history Special Forces/CIA would be the lead element in a ground war. Although superbly trained in the arts of war, diplomacy, and nation building, the Green Berets were lacking one important skill for battle in Afghanistan. Horseback riding. Because of the terrain horses were the main form of transport. When the first group joined their Afghan allies to ride into battle only one of the Green Berets had any horseback riding experiance. He gave a quick introduction to horsey control. 'Here's how you make this thing go.', and so forth.

'It's as if the Jetsons had met the Flintstones.' is how one Green Beret would later describe their joining the Afghans.

Here's some head music.

Berlioz - Symphony Fantastique
https://youtu.be/SCuKg6Dgc6I

Mo-Dettes - White Mice
https://youtu.be/E2_Ty6azw5I

Jimmy Buffett - Rancho Deluxe
https://youtu.be/qtJIRSWUOYg

Bluegrass Clog Dancing
https://youtu.be/cs2j8f7H2WY

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 19, 2018 09:10 AM (vpcGp)

13 Philbrick not only tells the history of the Pilgrims, their voyage to a new land, and their hardships during their first year...
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I've visited the 'Mayflower Steps' site at Plymouth. Like most historic sites, it's difficult to absorb the history that occurred there. One can try to envision and feel what the people were feeling at the time, but it just isn't possible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:11 AM (CDGwz)

14
I converted a smallish 5,000 book library from card catalog to computer based. Toughest part was convincing the librarian to ditch the card catalog. There were four networked computers to look stuff at simultaneously vs. one card catalog.

No brainer for me. It took the librarian a couple years before it got ditched.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 09:12 AM (LOgQ4)

15 "8 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)"


This !
Loved finding stuff that way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (58Au8)

16 Finally finished David Hackett Fischer’s herniatic “Albion’s Seed”. It’s not a quick or easy read; it’s very rich in detailed information and you want to linger with brandy snifter and thin cheroot.

Interesting that the chronic debts of the Virginia planters (typically second and third sons of the elite back home) seemed to echo the continual debt-dodging of the country gentlemen in south and west of England. And it’s not just the vagaries of farming. Reading Thackeray and Bronte, it’s one long struggle to pay off gambling debts and bills owed to one’s inferiors. Mere tradesmen!

The Virginia colony was much more hierarchical than the New England colonies, yet also prized individual liberty more – at least for the right sort of people. It was the special birthright of freeborn Englishmen. “Men of high estate were thought to have more liberties than others of lesser rank. Servants possessed few liberties, and slaves none at all.

John Randolph of Roanoke summarized his ancestral creed in a sentence: “I am an aristocrat,” he declared, “I love liberty; I hate equality.” Even Englishmen noted how prideful the Southern colonists were about their liberty, more as a token of rank than as an appreciation of freedom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)

17 I can't stay as I need to get to church, but I recently found out that my grandchildren's charter school is organized around the leadership principles found in "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."


I've never read the book, but I suppose I should, just to see what they're doing with the little urchins' heads. I was frankly surprised to see that they had a narrowly-defined mission of developing leadership skills.



I wonder how the kindergartener will do with that. Yesterday he was pulling bullfrogs out of the pond. Not much call for that, probably.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (lwiT4)

18 Tolle Lege
More than halfway in Patrick O'Brien Wine Dark Sea, need to finish Thomas Carlyle History of Frederick the Great so at least say I finished it.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (lxZ71)

19 So I have a book gifted to me by a ginger midget which has taken me a while to get to what with being a physical book and me mostly reading Kindle lately.

It's "15.000 Jarhe Mord und Totschlag" (15,000 years of Murder and Manslaughter), which is an anthropological study of the remains of Krauts what have slaughtered each other over the epochs.

Well, I lost it. I'm pretty sure I lost it in a school building, so I called the school but they were gone so I left a message. My message was, "it should be easy to recognize. It will be the only book in the school that is in the German language and has a skull on the front".

And then I realized how that sounded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (fuK7c)

20 Working at 'Stalingrad', as recommended here. Finishing up 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. I mentioned the latter on the ONT last night. Should be required reading at all colleges/universities. Sowell brings it, as always.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (CDGwz)

21 Recently read:

African Kaiser - It is about German East Africa, Paul von Lettow, and how he ran all over the place tying up Allied forces. This is a very good book and I highly recommend, although the author has a minor fascination with Lettow's sexual conquests or the lack of information thereof.

One of the best parts is Lettow is preparing an attack with his German, Askari (black Africans), and Arab forces. He sends away the Askari women (who always followed their husbands) and the Arab pretty boys (exactly what you think.) The Askari accept it, but the Arabs are upset, pathetically fire a couple of shots, and turn to run. The Askari slaughter them all. It brought a tear to my eye.

The Great War: A Combat History of WWI - Good overview of combat on the Western and Eastern fronts in WWI with a few of the other areas briefly covered. The problem is the author is British and has some serious bias at times. Ill fated attacks on the Western front were almost always the cause of having to save the French or political meddling. Otherwise, the British would have steamrolled the Germans with their superior tactics, numbers, and planning.

Noticeably, the author never discusses German East Africa where only the Armistice brought an end to the fighting and the Germans were beating far superior British forces.

The author has some good insights if you ignore the bias.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:16 AM (J70i0)

22 Good morning! This week I read Deeper Then the Good, five Tammy Hoag, about tracking a serial killer in the days before DNA, so phones and advanced for his age. It was pretty good, except for a little far-fetched.

Also read Simple Living, a minimalist guide. Interesting, but not sure I'm ready to let go of everything.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 09:18 AM (zSRRl)

23 "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (lwiT4)

I worked for a company that used it. So, I had to take the course. It's innocuous except for talking about competition (which the company skipped.) It's basically how to organize your time and prioritize.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:19 AM (J70i0)

24 Grammie, the "Seven Habits" thing was big with management training years back. I recall it's less about leadership than it is about time management, specifically about allotting time to the things that are truly important, not merely pressing.

I think there was a "Seven Habits" book for kids, too. Maybe not Kindergarteners, but then, I wasn't a focused self-starter at that age, except for recess.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)

25 Good morning!

Yay books! Thought I'd delurk in the Book Thread to bring up a very good book coming out in a couple of months: On Desperate Ground, The Marines at The Reservoir, the Korean War's Greatest Battle.

I just finished a review copy of this book...read it twice, and afterwards I just HAD to go visit the USMC Museum in Quantico.

It's about everything that led up to the Marines at the Chosin Reservoir. The author has clearly framed all the issues at play, from the tactical to the mistakes made at the strategic and political level. It's a riveting read, and one that sheds some much-needed light on the Korean War and the accomplishments, experiences, and sacrifices of our veterans there.

Check it out when it's released.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 09:21 AM (++G28)

26 16 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)



Let's not forget that his major point was the mistake people make in trying to apply "today's standards" to people in the distant past.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

27 Oh, I also recommend the WWI Museum in Kansas City.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:24 AM (J70i0)

28 In summary, the seven habits are:

Be Proactive
Begin with the End in Mind
Put First Things First
Think Win-Win
Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood*
Synergize
Sharpen the Saw

Seems pretty much safe.
* could be used to leftist advantage. Listen to our side, now shut-up.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 09:26 AM (LOgQ4)

29 My employer hired Tom Bay to teach the Time Management class to everyone. He was great. I still have and use the Franklin Planner, mainly for the calender.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 09:27 AM (3HNOQ)

30 Bellows Falls is often referred to as "Fellows Balls" by female students at the many colleges in that part of New England.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 19, 2018 09:30 AM (611Lm)

31 Good Sunday morning, horde!

@15: Libraries still use Dewey decimal system, so even though I'm looking up a book in the electronic card catalog, I still find similar books when I go to the shelf.

Sure would like to have one of those old card catalog cabinets, though.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 09:30 AM (e8PP1)

32 Hello, all! I'm going to an early mass today so not a lot of time to chat.

The big news this week is that my revised fantasy/historical miniatures rules are FINALLY getting published.

Or so I hope. I'm waiting for them to grind their way through the Amazon machinery. I hope to get them up this week and be done with thing.

Still reading "A Distant Mirror" which I'm enjoying less and less as Tuchman's editorializations get more and more off base. When she's confining herself to historical description and events, she's great, but then she starts doing the above-referenced thing of using contemporary standards as a point of comparison and it starts to suck.

It really makes the book seem dated because she's writing at a time when feminists argued that all women needed to succeed was a fair shot. No special treatment, just opportunity. Well, we all know how that ended.

She's also full of Protestant triumphalism regarding the Catholic Church's problems and the last two decades have shown that her smug WASP-ish perspective is pretty much bunk.

But other than that, it's not a bad narrative history. I plan on finishing it, though I'm no longer reading it with any urgency.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

33 Regarding the Dewey Decimal System, our local library still employs it in their computerized system. It is fun to go and see what's nearby.

I spent much of my youth trolling the 940 series.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)

34 When I was a youngun' my town was fortunate enough to have had an Andrew Carnegie library. Sad day when it was razed to make way for a modern, architecturally soulless building. Many, many cool memories.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:34 AM (LGXGf)

35 I've been reading "Girl Power: How Today's Young Women Can Do Anything and Rise to Any Challenge Unless Politely Challenged to Debate Ideas, In Which Case They Must Yell "Catcall!" and Run and Hide Under the Bed Until Daddy Makes the Big Bad Conservative Go Away" by Alexandra Occupational-Hazard.

I guess "It Takes a Village" was already taken.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 09:35 AM (Ndje9)

36 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

Yes, he's very good at contextualizing the story within the time, place, and culture of the colonists. I've called it a doorstop but only in jest. For being so dense with facts it is very readable.

I loved how the Border Folk -- what we would call Scots-Irish -- were poor but had a very high self regard and didn't seem to "know their place".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:35 AM (kQs4Y)

37 I still remember a Dilbert cartoon, when the competitors are reading the Dilbert company mission statement.

"Look! They're using synergy!"

Much laughter ensued.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 09:37 AM (S6Pax)

38 Reading "The Rose and the Crane" by Clint Dohman. An English nobleman and a Japanese Samurai (yes, you got that right) during the War of the Roses. The plot keeps me reading, but the deliberately anachronistic language and jokes make me want to hurl my Kindle through the window.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at August 19, 2018 09:37 AM (lApJ5)

39 This week, I've been reading Love and Death in the Sunshine State by Cutter Wood.

You think this author's name sounds pretentious? Dear sweet Jesus, it's nothing compared to his prose.

I was looking forward to a good true crime story, but it is an overwrought self-examination loosely arranged around a murder that happened where he used to go on vacation.

Probably won't finish it.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (e8PP1)

40 34
When I was a youngun' my town was fortunate enough to have had an Andrew
Carnegie library. Sad day when it was razed to make way for a modern,
architecturally soulless building. Many, many cool memories.


Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:34 AM (LGXGf)


My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.






http://tinyurl.com/y7na6qdm

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

41 Good morning, Horde! It's been a good week for me, writing and reading both. I clocked up the word-count for the next Luna City book, and I'm about three-quarters done - just have to wrap up two of the braided story lines, and map out the finished book. I don't think I'll have it in time for the Giddings Word Wrangler Book Fest late in September, but we'll be there with all the other Luna City books.
Reading - I finally broke down and bought the fourth Otto Prohaska book: Tomorrow the World, because I wanted to read some more about what the old guy had been up to, before AND after WWI. Not much about the after, but the before was pretty interesting: an around-the-world-adventure on a rickety sailboat-with-coal-fired-auxiliary steam engine at the turn of the last century. Including a brutal and unsuccessful attempt to sail around the Horn, the southernmost tip of South America. Interesting to me, as I had a great-uncle who had actually been a sailor on a commercial sailing ship at that time, and made the voyage around the Horn four times. He was slightly gaga when I knew him as a child, but he had a pair of ladies in frilly skirts tattooed on his forearms who did the shimmy when he flexed his muscles. He once fell off the rigging, from a great height, but managed to catch a rope and save himself before he fell all the way - to the great relief of the ships' captain, who confessed that he was already rehearsing the burial service in his mind, as he watched Great-uncle fall.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (xnmPy)

42 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. I sure did.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:39 AM (V+03K)

43 Off to work in a bit, so, thought I'd drop this here:

I received one of those, "It must be true, because I read it on the internet" emails and, well, decided to see if the book referenced existed. Surprise! It does.

The email was entitled, "The Oil Patch Warriors of WWII."

The book the email referenced, "The Secret of Sherwood Forest: Oil Production in England During World War II" is available on Amazon but a bit pricey.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and ordered. I look forward to reading, reviewing and comparing the book to the email I received.

I must admit, I checked because I hoped the email received is accurate in its representation of facts and events.

If anyone is interested in the body of the email, let me know and I'll see if I can get it to one of the COB's.

Cheers!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:40 AM (WEBkv)

44 One of my travel books last week was the aforementioned "Have Space Suit -- Will Travel". Great little read.

I have noticed that Heinlein juveniles often show young people “This is how you deal with the assholes you will inevitably encounter in your careers”.

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (kQs4Y)

45 My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.


http://tinyurl.com/y7na6qdm
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

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My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.

Anyway, off to work.

Later!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)

46 It's that time of year again. The 2019 Old Farmer's Almanac comes out Sept. 4. I've already preordered mine. A bit of annual fun. And, at least for my area, their winter and spring forecast was a lot better than the local news stations.

I don't get the World Book of Facts or similar every year. Not anymore. But I do pick one up every few years. Not as critical now that we have the internet but I don't trust electronic resources completely.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (V+03K)

47 45 My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.



Anyway, off to work.



Later!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)


I don't remember any age limit at our library. I do know though that my mom was a big tenant of the library and the librarians knew all of us.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (mpXpK)

48 I read the first five of the "Lost Fleet" series and found them to be pretty good reads. The main character is a bit too angst-ridden for my tastes but Campbell actually takes into account that combat would occur in three-dimensional space.

These are essentually written as two separate series. The first series of five books covers the hero defeating the Syndic Worlds while the next series covers the war with the aliens that had been manipulating the humans in the first series.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (5Yee7)

49 On the topic of ruined by sex, I was amused by the way Felix J. Palma handled a sex scene in The Map of Time, a time travel novel (more or less). One of the subplots concerns a lower class guy seducing an upper class girl by telling her a series of outrageous time travel lies. The narrator is an omniscient commenter on events who plays with time in relating the events. When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

50 46
It's that time of year again. The 2019 Old Farmer's Almanac comes out
Sept. 4. I've already preordered mine. A bit of annual fun. And, at
least for my area, their winter and spring forecast was a lot better
than the local news stations.



I don't get the World Book of Facts or similar every year. Not
anymore. But I do pick one up every few years. Not as critical now that
we have the internet but I don't trust electronic resources completely.



Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (V+03K)

I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (mpXpK)

51 11 I found a paperback copy of "The French Foreign Legion, A Complete History of the Legendary Fighting Force" by Douglas Porch during a recent trip to a used book store in my AO. Looks like it was printed in 1991.

I have read bits and pieces about the Legion here and there in my travels, but never a complete history.

Pretty thick and with pictures, 728 pages.

Gotta have pictures.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 09:08 AM (EoRCO)

I read that a while ago, enjoyed it a lot. Porch is a good historian of the French colonial campaigns, I wish he would do one on the conquest of Indochina

Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:47 AM (Izzlo)

52 After the chatter about it here last week, I pulled by $0.25 copy of Clan of the Cave Bear off the shelf and gave it a try. After a hundred and fifty pages or so I've concluded that it is a origin story - Ayla apparently is the matriarch and ancestor of all Mary Sues.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (bZ7mE)

53
My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a
historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a
little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.

Well, at least it's still there.

There was something about this place that inspired an awe-like sensation upon approaching it.
https://tinyurl.com/yb2s65wn

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (LGXGf)

54 In a nearby town they built a new (and surprisingly compatible, architecturally) wing onto the old Carnegie library.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (58Au8)

55 Since there is so much interest in WWI, I'll just mention this:

While it was announced this week that Trump had cancelled the military parade, which was ostensibly a celebration of the centenary of the ending of WWI, the National Park Service has yet to be officially informed of the cancellation. So maybe this is just a Trump negotiating strategy?

Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 09:49 AM (A/iod)

56 Part of the attraction of the Patrick O'Brian books is the cover art by Geoff Hunter. I got a separate book of his works, "The Marine Art of Geoff Hunt". Not only are these beautiful and exciting paintings, the book shows some of the sketches he makes on the way to finished works. Damn! The man is good. Hours of pleasant browsing.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:49 AM (V+03K)

57 I loved that little library, Vic! That's the kind that I had as a kid when we went "into town"; mine was a neat little white Victorian with books stuffed into small rooms, great for snuggling in with a good book on Greek mythology.

Now, towns seem to like these big modern monsters with open floor plans and lots of computers. Eh, progress, I guess.

Here's a list of Carnegie libraries. You can click on the state to find pictures of libraries in your town:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carnegie_libraries_in_the_United_States

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:50 AM (kQs4Y)

58
The Sunday Morning Book Thread was never great.

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at August 19, 2018 09:51 AM (LOgQ4)

59 Ayla apparently is the matriarch and ancestor of all Mary Sues.
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (bZ7mE)
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My sister read a few and chuckled over the florid sex scenes. "Oh dear, have you seen the author's picture on the back?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)

60 test ˘

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:53 AM (mpXpK)

61 My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)

===

My library card had a little metal plate attached to it the librarian would insert into the machine to check out books, like the credit card imprint machines that were the height of modern technology at the time.

When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or luxurious as I had imagined.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)

62 53 There was something about this place that inspired an awe-like sensation upon approaching it.
https://tinyurl.com/yb2s65wn

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (LGXGf)

That looks even older than our old one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

63 25 Good morning!

Yay books! Thought I'd delurk in the Book Thread to bring up a very good book coming out in a couple of months: On Desperate Ground, The Marines at The Reservoir, the Korean War's Greatest Battle.

I just finished a review copy of this book...read it twice, and afterwards I just HAD to go visit the USMC Museum in Quantico.

It's about everything that led up to the Marines at the Chosin Reservoir. The author has clearly framed all the issues at play, from the tactical to the mistakes made at the strategic and political level. It's a riveting read, and one that sheds some much-needed light on the Korean War and the accomplishments, experiences, and sacrifices of our veterans there.

Check it out when it's released.
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 09:21 AM (++G2

I just finished up "Inchon: MacAurthur's Last Triumph" by Michael Langley, 1979. It was a good minute-to-minute account of the landing & drive to Seoul, and the author makes no apologies for his hatred of Communism.

Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Izzlo)

64 Ok, I've done my Duty for G-D, Country, and the Wife. I am free the rest of the day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Ydx5u)

65 Nevergiveup at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Ydx5u)

===

She Who Must Be Obeyed may say differently...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (EZebt)

66 57
I loved that little library, Vic! That's the kind that I had as a kid
when we went "into town"; mine was a neat little white Victorian with
books stuffed into small rooms, great for snuggling in with a good book
on Greek mythology.



Now, towns seem to like these big modern monsters with open floor plans and lots of computers. Eh, progress, I guess.



Here's a list of Carnegie libraries. You can click on the state to find pictures of libraries in your town:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carnegie_libraries_in_the_United_States



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:50 AM (kQs4Y)

Thanks to my mom and that library to this day I read two or three books a week now since I have retired.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (mpXpK)

67 The Sunday Morning Book Thread was never great.
Posted by: Andrew Cuomo


Andrew Cuomo has a small penis, and was never great, or even mediocre. - Cuomo's wife

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (S6Pax)

68 Yay book thread!

I actually read How to Survive an Active Shooter a month or so ago.
Slim book but practical.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (CE6iV)

69 61 My library card had a little metal plate attached to
it the librarian would insert into the machine to check out books, like
the credit card imprint machines that were the height of modern
technology at the time.



When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and
finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or
luxurious as I had imagined.



Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)

My original card had the same.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (mpXpK)

70 Nice. I just checked an my first library is still a going concern and still unadulterated.

https://bit.ly/2PltaZa

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)

71 For those who enjoy the Patrick O'Brian books, Hornblower series and similar, I've got a couple of suggestions.

The first is Dean King's "A Sea of Words". Skip has mentioned this before. It's basically a dictionary of nautical terms and places in the Aubrey novels. Helpful and just plain fun to read.


The second is "A Sailor's Word-Book" by Admiral W. Smyth. This was published in 1867 when the Admiral was in his seventies. His service went back to the Napoleonic wars in the Royal Navy. It is great for browsing and for Smyth's Victorian era, courtly vocabulary and style.(I love his use of the word 'vaunt' to mean something between a boast and a postive statement.) He also covers a lot of Celtic and even Old English terms that were archaic in his own day and are almost unknown now. If you were, or are, the type to read dictionaries (I raise my hand) this is delightful and useful. I happen to have a nice hardbound copy but there is a free Kindle version available as well.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:04 AM (V+03K)

72 Well lookey here! Wanted to see if the little library in my home town was a Carnegie library, and this is what I found:

"The Belmar Public Library as it now stands was opened to the public on December 4, 1914. The building is Colonial in style and Edward Tilton of New York was the architect. The plans for the Library were thought to be so excellent by the Carnegie Corporation that they adopted them as the standard for future libraries all over the Country.

In 1935 a portrait of Andrew Carnegie was presented to the Library by the Carnegie Corporation. It is a copy of the portrait painted by Luis Mora. One was given to each of the Carnegie Libraries in the Centennial."

Posted by: IrishEi at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (Ri0Ku)

73 Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though , like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)

74 40 our local library is still in the original Andrew Carnegie building, with remodels and expansions over the years.
I like it a lot.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:06 AM (CE6iV)

75 'Morning, psocopterans.

I just finished Daughters of the Night. It's about a regiment of female pilots in Russia during WWII. They flew only at night, bombed the Germans continually and came to be known as the "Night Witches".

It was a good story, well written and researched, and contained only one mild sex scene. I figured that was okay, since she married the guy.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:07 AM (atTnz)

76 I'm sitting at Spence Field in S Ga waiting for the Autocross to start so I can drive around like a freaked out maniac without getting arrested.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:07 AM (3fR/s)

77 When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or luxurious as I had imagined.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)


A book that I am going to give my 12 year old grandson is The Soldier by Richard Humble and illustrated by Richard Scollins. Published in 1986, it covers the evolution of soldier from ancient Egypt to the Falkland Islands War. The illustrations are nice although some of the grey-scale pictures are a bit muddy -- Scollins usually chose to portray soldiers "in the field" so they tend to be muddy, ragged and unshaven.

A useful primer for those unfamiliar with the subject with lots of tidbits of information and I was about that age when I got my first military history book. I looked at the bibliography and it was all Osprey Men At Arms titles that I already own.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 10:08 AM (5Yee7)

78 Just got done with Snow Crash by Neal Stephensen, it was a .99 special on Kindle.

Typical Stephensen - dense, wordy, cyberpunk, evocative. Ending felt abrupt and rushed. Some things that happened (late) made no sense and were only lightly explained in the story. Ominous things happened to characters and then later they were fine like nothing happened. Main bad guy killed by deux ex machina, and relationship of that to one of the main characters was just a little too cute to be believable and set up with an obvious Chekov's gun.

Otherwise an engaging study on the idea that language is human software and our minds are subject to viruses that can "crash" our minds.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:09 AM (cvabZ)

79 I'm halfway through T. R. Fehrenbach's "Lone Star," a history of Texas from the ice age up to about its publish date of 1968.

Had no idea before reading it what a large portion of its people (in antebellum years) were black slaves. It occurred to me that those same numbers existed in SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, and, to a lesser degree, the rest of the slave states.

He really disses the Mexicans. The Anglo Texans hated the Mexicans for a variety of reasons, one being the Alamo slaughter. But his facts didn't lie to him. He points out that in early Texas, from S.A. south to the Rio Grande, while the population was hugely Mexican, the whites were the ones to own and develop the big ranching ops, organize and run government, start and grow business, manage security, and more. He makes the case that neither the pure-indian Mexicans, nor the mestizo Mexicans with some Spanish blood, had no sense of what it took to create what Texas was becoming.

He wasn't wrong. Contrast Texas today with Mexico, or Guatemala, or Salvador, or Nicaragua.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (+dG9b)

80 Re: Travel Books
In the 80s I took several weeks of vacation and flew to Australia. A gal friend gave me the 'Illuminatus Trilogy' books to read on the long flight. I enjoyed all 3 and they made the flight fly by quickly.

Shortly after I got back she gave me 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.' I guess she thought I'd enjoy it like the Trilogy books. I might have, but I must have slept while reading it because the only thing I remember about it was the author kept yapping about 'Quality.'

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (vpcGp)

81 They wont cut other services though , like
support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)
Priorities, comrade, priorities. Bread and circuses, yes. Intellectual pursuits, not so much. They can be dangerous.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (LGXGf)

82 Autocross to start"

Ah yes. Parking lot racing, with speeds up to 50...

Kph.

Snort

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (6qErC)

83 50 ... "I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents."

Hi Vic: Yeah, I remember those four bit copies also. It has been a while. I also recall what an hourly wage was back then. No math on the threads but I wonder if the 50 cent edition was more costly in 1960 versus wages.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (V+03K)

84 Daniel Yergin's The Prize is one of the better non-fiction books I've read. It's a history of the oil industry but serves as a history of most of the 20th Century. Peak Oil is a recurring theme. I just ordered his follow-up, The Quest.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (1UZdv)

85 If you were, or are, the type to read dictionaries (I raise my hand) this is delightful and useful. ...
Posted by: JTB


https://www.amazon.com/Byrnes-Dictionary-Unusual-Obscure-Preposterous/dp/1559722339

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at August 19, 2018 10:12 AM (AoK0a)

86 I grew up in a Carnegie library. That building was more solid than a bank. It's still there, I see, though they made a run at closing it a few years ago. It's on the NRHP now, so maybe it's safe.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:12 AM (atTnz)

87 I happen to have a nice hardbound copy but there is a free Kindle version available as well.


Kindle offered it to me for $9.95 or $7.95. Do you have the magic search phrase that turns up the free volume?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:13 AM (fuK7c)

88 70
Nice. I just checked an my first library is still a going concern and still unadulterated.



https://bit.ly/2PltaZa

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)


This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (mpXpK)

89 I read that a while ago, enjoyed it a lot. Porch is a good historian of the French colonial campaigns, I wish he would do one on the conquest of Indochina
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:47 AM (Izzlo)

Nice! Thanks for the input Jstan!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (EoRCO)

90 This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party



Well, if the book business doesn't work out they can make it a Motel 6.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:17 AM (fuK7c)

91 Just got done with Snow Crash by Neal Stephensen, it was a .99 special on Kindle.

Typical Stephensen
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:09 AM (cvabZ)


Yep. Most interesting characters are wholly undeveloped and barely mentioned except as foils or mentors to the (HURRR!) Protagonist. Central theme is based on a reasonable premise taken to ridiculous, implausible extremes. Entire chapters are "you will never hear about this event for the rest of the book even though it would make a better story in every way". Others are "I read about this in a magazine once and don't quite understand it, but here's what it would be like if it changed the world". Climax/denouement are slapped together frantically as the narrative is mere pages away from colliding with the back cover at warp five (the wreckage will be called the "ending").

It's one of my top ten favorite books, easily.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:18 AM (y87Qq)

92 The Carnegie Library where I grew up had a small theatre in it. It is closed now because the liberal assholes who ran the foundation blew through all the money.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (89T5c)

93 The library in my hometown was in an old Victorian house until about 2002, when they built a larger, modern one. They did a good job with the new library-it's open without echoing and has a couple of conference rooms for local organizations to meet- but I still miss the old one. The childrens' section was in the basement, and it was a treat to be allowed up to the adults' section (I was in the single- and early double-digits, and didn't like the kids my age; anything to do with being an adult was cool)

Posted by: right wing yankee at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (zlzYb)

94 3 Mike Hammer I think that was Bedford Falls.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (jmIQu)

95 Just saw Alpha. Quite good for a little picture. Kids 10 and up should love it.

It's about the start of the greatest partnership in the history of the World = Man and Dog.

Igno-Daughter figured out the star right off. She's a Czech Wolf Dog, a new hybrid breed that's mostly German Shepherd but which looks more like a wolf.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (1UZdv)

96 83
50 ... "I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has
become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents."



Hi Vic: Yeah, I remember those four bit copies also. It has been a
while. I also recall what an hourly wage was back then. No math on the
threads but I wonder if the 50 cent edition was more costly in 1960
versus wages.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (V+03K)


.50 cents in 1960 according to the government numbers would be $12.63 now. Amazing what monetizing the debt will do. So I recon it is half price now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (mpXpK)

97 I finished reading Mother of God: A History of the Virgin Mary. Apparently, the gist of the book is that shortly after Christianity became a powerful political force in the eastern Roman Empire, and eventually beyond, smart political leaders and kings *including popes* used Mary as a propaganda tool to further their grip on power by claiming that the Queen of Heaven favored them and protected them. Also, the logic being that every good Jewish boy wants to please his mother.

Posted by: jmel at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (OeWgo)

98
Just how evil is Facebook?

A HUD news release Friday said that Facebook's tools, while not explicitly mentioning race, disabilities or family size, allow all of that and more for advertisers interested in targeting certain groups while excluding others from housing offers. Such groups included people interested in "assistance dog," "mobility scooter" or "deaf culture." The advertising tools also allowed offers to exclude people interested in "child care" or "parenting," or to target people based on their stated interest in Christianity, Hinduism or the Bible. Ads could also be tailored based on user zip codes, the HUD release said.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (LOgQ4)

99 90 Well, if the book business doesn't work out they can make it a Motel 6.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:17 AM (fuK7c)

LMAO

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:23 AM (mpXpK)

100 Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:18 AM (y87Qq)

Yes. You could see the sloppy knots as the ending tried to tie it all together.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:23 AM (cvabZ)

101 This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (mpXpK)


The library in the city where I lived until middle school is about as generic as it gets. About all you can say about the architecture is: it's a box you can put books in.

http://lawrencefreelibrary.org/234/About-Us

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (y87Qq)

102 currently reading Strong Medicine by Blake F. Donaldson, published 1961
it's out of print but available free online at several carnivore websites, including this one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/o28zgsm

Donaldson was a doctor who started practicing in WWIin the army, then went into private practice in NYC

He writes about curing a lot of patients with his "primitive food" regimen , which was basically keto:

30 min walk before breakfast
3 meals of a big slab of fatty meat and a small plain potato
demitasse black coffee

only water between meals
no water after 5 pm

Anyway, it's actually an interesting read because it's semi-memoir, and he talks about WWI, various cases, etc and he has a great sense of humor

It's also an interesting look into attitudes of the era - smoking, heredity, women, etc

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)

103 Mike Hammer I think that was Bedford Falls.

Posted by: kallisto


At least it wasn't Niagra Falls

"Slooooooowly I turned....

Step by step........"

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 10:26 AM (ieSH1)

104 Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though , like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)


Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.

Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)

105 I don't listen to audio books very often but Gary Sinise reading "Travels With Charley" was so good I try them once in a while. Came across two winners this week.

One was The Hobbit narrated by Rob Inglis. This isn't one of those over-produced BBC versions with multiple cast and sound effects that often obscure the words. This is just Inglis reading the book. His diction is clear, he does different voices for each character, and even sings the songs, sort of. It is easy to imagine Tolkien reading the book to small children with that playful approach he could employ. Inglis did the LOTR as well. I'm curious how good those are since they aren't as 'playful'.


I started reading Shaara's "The Killer Angels", which is excellent. I didn't realize how much of the dialogue in the movie "Gettysburg" came right out of the book. The audiobook is very good so far. Nothing fancy, like above just clear diction and use of accents for the major characters. I'm enjoying it and I'm surprised at the emotional aspects the narrator brings out.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:28 AM (V+03K)

106 104
Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for
opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though ,
like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.



Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)



Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.

Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)

The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)

107 The library in the city where I lived until middle school is about as generic as it gets.


The image flips back and forth between two buildings. One is almost brutalist concrete and glass, the other has Golden Age echos, with arched windows and some crenelation around the roof line.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (fuK7c)

108 Hope you PNW 'Rons and 'Ettes didn't miss this one yesterday:
https://www.animalhousetoga.com/
The 40th anniversary of Animal House celebration.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 10:30 AM (yzxic)

109 49 On the topic of ruined by sex, I was amused by the way Felix J. Palma handled a sex scene in The Map of Time, a time travel novel (more or less)...When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)


See, that's the way you do it. No need for a bunch of description, everybody knows what's going behind the closed doors.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:33 AM (co6jd)

110 I like that photo of the Vermont library. It looks ike a newer version of the one I haunted as a kid. I loved that place. And I miss the card catalog. It was huge, full of mystery for children, and a beautiful, solid piece of furntiure.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:33 AM (V+03K)

111 Respict we much!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (5zO3p)

112 Just how evil is Facebook?

A HUD news release Friday said that Facebook's tools, while not explicitly mentioning race, disabilities or family size, allow all of that and more for advertisers interested in targeting certain groups while excluding others from housing offers. Such groups included people interested in "assistance dog," "mobility scooter" or "deaf culture." The advertising tools also allowed offers to exclude people interested in "child care" or "parenting," or to target people based on their stated interest in Christianity, Hinduism or the Bible. Ads could also be tailored based on user zip codes, the HUD release said.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (LOgQ4)


What about "height"? Seriously, I don't see why this is wrong. Freedom of association and all that.

Posted by: Randy Newman at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (/qEW2)

113 His diction is clear, he does different voices for each character, and even sings the songs, sort of. It is easy to imagine Tolkien reading the book to small children with that playful approach he could employ.


One of the absolute joys of parenting for me was reading the Harry Potter books aloud to my boys. To Rowling's credit, she wrote the characters with distinct enough voices that it was possible to have a voice for each character.

(I used Churchill for Dumbledore).

The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Of course, growing up over that stretch they became independent readers so I didn't read the later books aloud to them, but I loved getting started that way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)

114 Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.
Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)


To be honest, there are a number of judges that said those obligations are priority.
No word on whether the judges have those pensions too.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 10:35 AM (2K6fY)

115 The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
Our staff librarians recently decide to collectively bargain under the SEIU. Several days ago they all wore their SEIU t-shirts and I, as a tax-payer, felt like I was really having it shoved in my face. Before our country's fundamental transformation I never doubted our staff's devotion to non-censorship. Let me just say that I no longer feel that way about. Hate-speak and bad-thought are very, very bad and must be eliminated.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:36 AM (LGXGf)

116 The image flips back and forth between two buildings.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (fuK7c)


We never went to the second one (south branch). The only one I have any memories of (downtown @ Lawrence & Haverhill) was the one that looks like it could have been dropped out of the sky onto any college campus in the past sixty years or so (the steel-and-glass one).

They had a summer class series there that was fun. I remember photography and cooking. I think mom still has the cookbook from that.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:37 AM (y87Qq)

117 RParking lot racing, with speeds up to 50...'

We're at an airport so the course is pretty open. Definitely over 50. There are some serious cars here. We will has blasts.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:37 AM (3fR/s)

118 >>But other than that, it's not a bad narrative history. I plan on finishing it, though I'm no longer reading it with any urgency.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

Completely agree. "Distant Mirror" was not what I hoped it would be.Too tendentious. There's a whole other way of looking at that century, but she seems unaware of it.

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 10:38 AM (QE8X6)

119 I wonder how many urban libraries are used primarily for loaning out books anymore. I think it's more about free workstation use and giving seminars to illegals and hood rats about how to game the system.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (/qEW2)

120 Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.
Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)
The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)


Right. Ever time the local citizenry gets uppity and passes a tax reduction or limitation initiative, the government gets pissy and cuts the most visible services, like police, fire, library, and parks. All under the excuse "well, we can't afford these things any more because *you* people voted to reduce our endless money supply that is ours by natural right."

But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)

121 Trump has a Nixonian enemies list, screams MSM, who are in danger of losing their clearances, to join Brennan: James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Bruce Ohr.

Hmmm. I see a cabal. It's like Murder on the Orient Express. They all put a knife in Framed Flynn's back.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:40 AM (1UZdv)

122 93 year old maiden aunt...

Yeah, no. I would not recommend ripping out pages of a book, due to steamy sex. I believe in treating older people like adults. I'm sure she knows what sex is, and if... IF I am going to give someone a book to read, which I probably would just about never do, I would leave it to them to decide what is and is not appropriate for their delicate eyeballs.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2018 10:41 AM (cY3LT)

123 Our county couldn't even get employees to contribute 4 percent to their pensions to get the budget to balance so now they are having to take furlough days and are bitching about that.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:41 AM (3fR/s)

124 OM, thanks for the rec on "How to Survive and Active Shooter". Downloaded from B and N. I'm thinking this should be required reading for everyone.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)

125 *sigh* and = an

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)

126 I do love my hometown's new library though. It's huge, has a terrific selection of books, lots of comfy chairs, and gardens and sculpture outside. Their annual book sale is epic.

I noted from the "events" listing that they will be hosting a Nerf War after hours.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (kQs4Y)

127 word power ... "Trump's pugnacity has served his country well" David Horowitz tweeted.

To me pugnacious is too negative for Trump. It is TheNarrative used to frame Trump as an ego driven jerk, but maybe useful for our time.

Trump knew the shit storm coming his way when he took on the biggest crime organization in history. (essentially what he did, and he did not skewer his opponents because he is "pugnacious") No media would cover him favorably, so he had to skewer every traitor and swindler he was running against. The VDH video KT linked yesterday explains that pretty well, where Hanson covers "the mythologies of the election".

https://youtu.be/4YtzgA310t0?t=323

Trump is audacious, or bodacious even.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (bT8Z4)

128 One was The Hobbit narrated by Rob Inglis.
Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:28 AM (V+03K)


Had to go back and make sure you were on last week's thread like I'd thought. It would have been an amazing coincidence otherwise. And yes, that recording is everything an audiobook should be and nothing it shouldn't.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=376445

It's also an interesting look into attitudes of the era - smoking, heredity, women, etc
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)


I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

129 Strozk was fired . How is losing clearance NOT part of that package?

Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 10:44 AM (XoAz8)

130 I finished reading through all my open book thread tabs.

Soon I'll look to find first Lost Fleet book and finally start reading it.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (CuFV9)

131 "I started reading Shaara's "The Killer Angels", which is excellent."

Yes. Excellent description of how the Battle of Gettysburg was unplanned, but escalated as a fight for the high ground, moral and otherwise.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (1UZdv)

132 Just how evil is Facebook?

-
I see in the sidebar that Cap'n Billy is fact checking for Facebutt. That ought to be good. Facebutt: "Trump is a doodyhead!" Cap'n Billy: "Pure D truth!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (2udiA)

133 A minor detail. I recently got some heavy weight 3x5 index cards. They are at least three times the weight and thickness of the usual index card these days. I got them for doing small sketches since they will hold up to erasing and even watercolor washes. They are archival and acid free. I have my share of older books and new ones with good quality paper that could be damaged by lousy bookmarks. I'm using some of these good cards as bookmarks since they won't discolor the book pages. I may be overly concerned but after a book has survived a century or more in decent condition it deserves coddling.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:47 AM (V+03K)

134 #123
Yeah, somehow the whole idea of Civil Service has been flipped 180 degrees. Onward!!!!

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:47 AM (LGXGf)

135 Strozk was fired .
Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 10:44 AM (XoAz8 )


That would be a great action-movie line.

"You've been Strozk from the register... and sold for scrap" *pushes him into industrial shredder*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:48 AM (y87Qq)

136 121. Is the FNM losing its clout? What is the effect of 300 newspapers editorializing against Trump, except to expose themselves as willing tools of DS.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (jmIQu)

137 120 Right. Ever time the local citizenry gets uppity and
passes a tax reduction or limitation initiative, the government gets
pissy and cuts the most visible services, like police, fire, library,
and parks. All under the excuse "well, we can't afford these things any
more because *you* people voted to reduce our endless money supply that
is ours by natural right."

But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)

Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)

138 One of the absolute joys of parenting for me was reading the Harry Potter books aloud to my boys. To Rowling's credit, she wrote the characters with distinct enough voices that it was possible to have a voice for each character.

The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)
-----------

Did you ever listen to any of the books on audio? We did, on long car rides, and Jim Dale did an EXCELLENT job with different voices for each character and keeping them consistent through all the books.

And I know exactly what you mean - my kids waited impatiently for each new one to come out. I know people here laugh at us for liking them but I was always happy to read them too. Many, many fond memories with my kids.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:50 AM (JJZzu)

139 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)

I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)


In favor of... smoking, heredity and women?

Well I'm for two of the three.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2018 10:50 AM (cY3LT)

140 Woot! Just made it through Vol 1 of Stalin by Kotkin and now into Vol 2. The pages are not flying by, as Professor Kotkin has claimed (many times in his videos), but that's because I explore his footnotes which often have interesting tidbits and wiki many characters and thus wind up on side excursions.

A wild one was Yakov Blumkin (Blyumkin). This guy was a somewhere between a Russian James Bond and someone Kipling would have conjured up. He had the dubious honor of being the one of the first Communist party members executed by the Soviet regime for a political crime (aiding Trotsky).

BTW - Very happy with my Fire HD10 - combining music with reading.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 10:52 AM (EEqRQ)

141 "Just made it through Vol 1 of Stalin by Kotkin"

Just got it from Amazon based on a recommendation here.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

142 Did you ever listen to any of the books on audio? We did, on long car rides, and Jim Dale did an EXCELLENT job with different voices for each character and keeping them consistent through all the books.


I'm sure that is a lovely memory for you. My ex started playing the audio tapes for the boys and I was pissed. I'm doing the reading here, I don't want it corrupted by something you just bought off the shelf.

I can be ornery.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:54 AM (fuK7c)

143 I would like to read Greg Jarrett's book about the Russia Hoax. Well sourced, 700 footnotes.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:55 AM (jmIQu)

144 ------------



When those were being sold off, I bought one at auction. I now have a
handsome oak small-parts 'cabinet', all carefully labeled. The drawers
are just the right size for holding molded plastic bins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (CDGwz)
-------------------------------------------------------My wife and I bought some at a school surplus sale several years ago. I use my set (five drawers wide by three tall) to hold stamps that I've soaked and sorted but not yet mounted in the albums. They are perfect for the size of glassines I store the stamps in.

Posted by: Three and One at August 19, 2018 10:55 AM (31Dqk)

145 I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

LOL

He considered smoking a harmless vice
He suspects certain inherited physical characteristics correlated to soldiers freezing (failing to fire) in the field
The women thing is just some traditional un-PC stuff

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:56 AM (CE6iV)

146 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=376579#c29318688

It's definitely worth it. Very good for setting the world history stage and then bringing Stalin into focus upon it.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (EEqRQ)

147 LOL, Bander, that's okay. I hasten to add that the audio books (which we got from the library) did not replace the initial reading of any of the books.

We took cross-country car trips for a few years, and I would always bring along a tote bag full of books on tape/CD to soothe the savage beasts. Some were just for fun, some were historical.

I also always had one going in the car for all the inevitable trips on a daily basis where I had to haul along everyone because no one was old enough to stay home alone. It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)

148 There was a Catnegie library in this town. They've turned it into a museum. I used to go to the old libarary a lot. They moved it to a new building. Sparse shelves, with a large computer room and another room that seems to be devoted to kids playing video games. I hardly ever go to it. I hope when we mive, that the new place has an old style library.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (Lqy/e)

149 124 OM, thanks for the rec on "How to Survive and Active Shooter". Downloaded from B and N. I'm thinking this should be required reading for everyone.
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)


I thought the same thing at first, but how good is this advice universally?


The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Of course, growing up over that stretch they became independent readers so I didn't read the later books aloud to them, but I loved getting started that way.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)


We read the first three to my daughter and did all the voices. Great memories. But I have an awesome picture of her curled up in a chair at a hair salon getting an up-do (because she was a flower girl in a wedding) reading Goblet of Fire, and one of the beauticians laughing and saying the book was almost as big as she was. Second grade, I think.

My son had them read to him by Jim Dale.

I feel a little guilty now.

Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (XoAz8)

150 Al Sharpton Messes Up Spelling Of Legendary Aretha Franklin Song: 'R-E-S-P-I-C-T'

Sock it to me!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:03 AM (2udiA)

151 He suspects certain inherited physical characteristics correlated to soldiers freezing (failing to fire) in the field

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:56 AM (CE6iV)


I think the post-WWII consensus is that people just naturally don't like the idea of it. I haven't gotten around to Grossman's On Killing yet. It's on The List.

The 'no water after 5pm' thing you mentioned is a little alarming. I drink a lot of water.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:04 AM (y87Qq)

152 Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)

Yup....our small town Fire Department has a Chief Looter and 3, count 'em 3, "Battalion" Chief Looters doing all manner of things in the command structure.

When the town council looks over the budget and looks for cuts, the FD Looters cry havoc and insurance rates and life safety man!

Seems the Chief Looter could do all 4 jobs but we wouldn't want him to have to actually work you see.

Rank has it's privileges and those don't come cheap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 11:06 AM (EoRCO)

153 Chicago 'Peace Picnic' Turns Violent: 3 People Shot, Another Is Beaten

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I guess they needed more R-E-S-P-I-C-T.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:06 AM (2udiA)

154 Mary Cloggenstein lives in Brattleboro
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Gah!! CloggenstIEin!!!

Posted by: Mary's #1 (and possibly only) Fan at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (j3frD)

155 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler. It's a history of the early manned Soviet spaceflights, Vostok and Voskhod. Those under 29 might not recall how the Russians kept claiming one "first" after another in the early days of the Space Age.

The book starts with some background. It discusses the visionary Konstantin Tsiolkovsky (1857-1935) who was one of the first to regard human spaceflight as a real possibility. His notebooks were filled with sketches of multi-stage rockets, spacecraft, airlocks, and even tethered spacewalking. It goes on to cover the high-altitude balloon flights of the 1930s and the development of pressurized cabins and pressure suits.

Like the Americans, after WWII the Russians also captured German rocket engineers and V-2 parts, which formed the basis for Soviet rocket development in the 1950s. A major figure during this period was Sergey Korolyev, who designed the R-7 ICBM, whose descendants are still flying over 60 years later. At the time it was more powerful than any American rocket, so it could lift heavier payloads. Sputnik 1 became the world's first satellite, and Sputnik 2 put the first living creature into orbit, the dog Laika. (Alas, they had not yet developed a means to recover an orbiting spacecraft, so poor Laika was on a suicide mission.}

The heart of the book covers the six manned Vostok and two Voskhod flights between 1961 and 1965. Yuri Gagarin became the first man to orbit the Earth, and Vostok 2 sent Gherman Titov on a 17 orbit flight, making him the first person to spend a full day in orbit. These flights took place before John Glenn became the first American in orbit.

In 1962, Vostok 3 and 4 became the first dual flight, setting endurance records that Project Mercury never matched. Although the two spacecraft lacked the ability to rendezvous and dock and never came closer than several miles apart, the Soviets led the world to believe that such missions were imminent.

After Gordon Cooper closed out the Mercury program with a 22-orbit, 34-hour flight in May 1963, the Russians struck again the following month with another dual flight, Vostok 5 and 6. Vostok 6 carried the first woman into orbit, Valentina Tereshkova, while Valeri Bykovsky aboard Vostok 5 set a record for the longest solo flight, 4 days 23 hours, that still stands today.

In 1964, as the Americans were planning the two-man Gemini missions, the Russians stole their thunder with Voskhod 1, which carried three men. Despite the name change, it was really just a modified Vostok spacecraft. They were able to shoehorn three men into a spacecraft designed for one by dispensing with spacesuits and ejection seats. This was incredibly risky since the crew had no way to escape a failed launch, but it scored another propaganda victory which was all that seemed to matter at the time.

In March 1965, Voskhod 2 carried a detachable airlock, enabling Alexei Leonov to perform the world's first spacewalk. He was only able to fit back inside by partially depressurizing his spacesuit, another tragedy narrowly averted.

There were several follow-on missions planned, but infighting between various personalities and design bureaus prevented them from happening. Korolyev was also developing the more advanced Soyuz spacecraft during this time. His untimely death in January 1966 left the Soviet space program rudderless at a crucial time. In 1965-66 the Americans played the tortoise to the Soviet hare, and ten Gemini flights gave America a decisive lead in every major category of spaceflight.

But the Vostok spacecraft gained a new life as an unmanned spy satellite, and hundreds of them flew over the next decades. Its recoverable portion allowed it to return film and other experiments back to Earth.

This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)

156 I'd recommend The Gold Bug Variations by Richard Powers. I found it to be a rich and intellectually challenging book when I read it 17 years ago.
For those of you who haven't yet discovered Neal Stephenson, please dive into Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle, a collection of 3 books (Quicksilver, The Confusion and The System of the World ) although Stephenson didn't want to call it a trilogy. I loved them all. Plus, long and complex books. Mmm, mmm, mmm.

Posted by: zero turn riding mower at August 19, 2018 11:09 AM (txw6d)

157 So, the Soviet Right Stuff.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:11 AM (1UZdv)

158 For those of you who haven't yet discovered Neal Stephenson, please dive into Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle, a collection of 3 books (Quicksilver, The Confusion and The System of the World ) although Stephenson didn't want to call it a trilogy. I loved them all. Plus, long and complex books. Mmm, mmm, mmm.
Posted by: zero turn riding mower at August 19, 2018 11:09 AM (txw6d)
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By all means dive into Cryptonomicon but be sure you're wearing your scuba suit and have plenty of oxygen, because it will be a long time before you surface! Haven't read the others yet.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:12 AM (JJZzu)

159 Al Sharpton never was that sharp.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 11:13 AM (LGXGf)

160 OMuse, I just looked at your Twitter link and I love your avatar! Ha!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:17 AM (JJZzu)

161 There was a Catnegie library in this town.
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Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (Lqy/e)


They have cat cafés. Why not cat libraries?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:17 AM (/qEW2)

162 This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM


I've watched a number of programs on the Soviet space program and they were pretty incredible, both on the 'hits' and the 'misses' that they didn't speak much of.

They could never pull the hammer on a manned mission to the moon, though. They never had the confidence they could bring their astronauts back alive and didn't want to risk the loss of face a failed mission would entail.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:18 AM (LOgQ4)

163 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler. It's a history of the early manned Soviet spaceflights, Vostok and Voskhod. Those under 29 might not recall how the Russians kept claiming one "first" after another in the early days of the Space Age.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)


Thanks for that. It sounds like something I'd like. It's amazing how few cosmonauts they managed to kill, when you read some of the stories, and then how long some of those designs have remained viable. From Vostok-K to Soyuz-FG, the first manned mission and current Russian manned flights have been on R-7 designs. It would be like the US still sending people up on Atlas and Titan rockets into the 21st century.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

164 But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.




Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)
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Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)


Sounds like my small hometown. Right after the mayor got reelected, it wa announced that property taxes needed to be raised 44% because there wasn't enough money in the city operating fund. Somehow about $3.5mil disappeared and no one knew where it went. After the townspeople lost their shit, "most" of it (about $2.5mil) turned up in an account that city officials "forgot about".

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 11:19 AM (yzxic)

165 400+ newspapers denounce President Trump, can you think of 400+ better reasons not to buy those 400+ newspapers?
Buy books, they last longer.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:19 AM (lxZ71)

166 >>>I'd recommend The Gold Bug Variations by Richard Powers. I found it to be a rich and intellectually challenging book when I read it 17 years ago.

Read Poe's short story "The Gold Bug" not that long ago. Great story, but so un-PC I imagine it'll be banned one day.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (/qEW2)

167 It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)
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Lovecraft?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)

168 It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)

Well that and the prison tattoos were pretty intimidating.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (wYseH)

169 By all means dive into Cryptonomicon but be sure you're wearing your scuba suit and have plenty of oxygen
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:12 AM (JJZzu)


They'll refill your tanks on Glory IV.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (y87Qq)

170 "I understand that the Israelis teach that everybody needs to rush the shooter, even if no weapons are available. Because eventually the sheer weight of numbers will obstruct the shooter's progress."

I've written this here before, but - that's how the Army taught me to react to a near ambush, and I can't for the life of me figure out why I should do differently in an active shooter situation.

People look at the thwarted train attack in Belgium and say, Well those were military guys. Stone and Skarlatos are, but the unnamed Frenchman who first made contact wasn't, so far as I know. Nor was the fiftysomething professor Mark Moogoolian, who got shot in the neck trying to take the shooter down. Nor was Anthony Sadler, Stone's and Skarlatos' old friend. Nor was Chris Norman, the 62-year-old Brit IT guy who said he wanted to flee, but then he saw the Americans moving and decided he should back them up.

And then there's James Shaw, Jr., who bided his time, then charged the Waffle House shooter all alone and won. He wanted to see his little girl again, he got angry, and "I figured if I was going to die, he was going to have to work for it."

Not saying I'd be the badass. I'm saying this response has a better track record than Run if you can, hide if you can't run, fight as a last resort. Which maximizes your personal chance of survival, but ensures the shooter moves unobstructed for as long as possible.

Posted by: JPS at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (UgdG5)

171 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:22 AM (1UZdv)

172 This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.
Posted by: rickl


Another great book to read on this subject is "Red Star in Orbit" by James Oberg.

As I recall, Oberg once worked for NASA, so he does bring some actual knowledge and expertise to the analysis of the Soviet space program.
For all of the sometimes false propaganda, the Soviets did do some remarkable things, and some of their cosmonauts were really remarkable and brave men.

Valeri Ryumin I think still holds the record for man-days in orbit. And he did two very long stints in the Salyut and Mir space stations. I once got a chance to talk to some American space physicians, and they knew all about Ryumin, and said he really never recovered from all his time in space/zero-G

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:23 AM (S6Pax)

173 Soon I'll look to find first Lost Fleet book and finally start reading it.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (CuFV9)


What a coincidence. I've just started "Dauntless" a couple of days ago.

I am enjoying it very much.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 11:24 AM (co6jd)

174 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.

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Just ignore the Muslim running for AG in Michigan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:24 AM (2udiA)

175
I think the post-WWII consensus is that people just naturally don't like the idea of it. I haven't gotten around to Grossman's On Killing yet. It's on The List.


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hogmartin, I liked that one a lot.
He gets flak for being worried about the effect of violent video games on kids but he's probably right - there are definitely some kids who should not be into that.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:26 AM (CE6iV)

176
I watched Fox News Sunday and it seemed pretty laid back. Andrew Cuomo's foot in mouth disease was the most interesting. The negative response from the leftist crowd in attendance when he spoke was kind of interesting... my perception is that the 'moderate' middle is waking up to the pandering to the socialist crew and they're weighing their options.

My advice:
[X] Walk away
[X] Stay home in November

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (LOgQ4)

177 Just ignore the Muslim running for AG in Michigan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


I think that is Minnesota, but keep on going.

There was a Muslim running for Gov in the Michigan Democrat primary, as well as some Hindu who wanted Single Payer in Michigan. He actually finished 2nd in the Demo primary.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (S6Pax)

178 I can't stay as I need to get to church, but I recently found out that my grandchildren's charter school is organized around the leadership principles found in "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."
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grammie, I read this a long time ago. I don't remember anything particular about it, so I don't believe you have anything to worry about in terms of weirdness. Just a generic business book.

I'm casually reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck."

Posted by: shibumi at August 19, 2018 11:28 AM (SbIX4)

179 We scheduled summer vacations around which city was near enough to a Barnes and noble or a walmart in order to stand in line at midnight to get the newest Harry Potter book. Such a huge influence on my kid loving to read.

Posted by: NCKate at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (noTUC)

180 400 hundred newspapers THAT NO ONE READS denounce Trump. OK.

Judge Pirro marks Mueller as the cleaner with ref. to Pulp Fiction and Harvey Keitel. Yeppers.

The Bengazi crime scene not exam. by fbi for 30 days. Mueller time.

Posted by: d9 at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (WX+x0)

181 Lovecraft?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)
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I didn't even have to go that route - they were happy with Henry Huggins and Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle and Calico Captive and The Witch of Blackbird Pond.

And Redwall. But egads, I got a little tired of those after a while, although I loved Brian Jacques' accent.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)

182 Gah!! CloggenstIEin!!!

Posted by: Mary's #1 (and possibly only) Fan at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (j3frD)



Mary is Portuguese?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (2K6fY)

183 There was a Muslim running for Gov in the Michigan Democrat primary, as well as some Hindu who wanted Single Payer in Michigan. He actually finished 2nd in the Demo primary.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (S6Pax)
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The Muslim woman, Tlaib(? - too lazy) seemed pretty issues-focused and moderate, but after the election was all "We've got to isolate and punish Israel!". She wanted to get punitive by withholding money.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (kQs4Y)

184 Again on changing attitudes, Donaldson was put in charge of shell-shocked soldiers in WWI despite protesting that he knew nothing of psychology.

He decided to have them march drills. Some passed out, some keeled over, but some recovered enough to serve in non combat positions. He says at least that was better than all of them ending up as dependent on the Veterans Bureau.

Btw his description of the effects of phoshene gas... wow. Awful way to die.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:32 AM (CE6iV)

185 172
Another great book to read on this subject is "Red Star in Orbit" by James Oberg.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:23 AM (S6Pax)


I already have it, and it's next on my list! I was going to mention it, but my comment was already too long.

Unlike "The Rocket Men", Oberg's book was published in 1981, when the Soviet Union was still a going concern and very secretive. Back in those days it took a lot of detective work and reading of tea leaves and entrails for Westerners to figure out what the Russkies were up to. I believe Oberg speaks and reads fluent Russian, so he was able to research Soviet publications for information.

It will be interesting to compare and contrast the two books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)

186 I didn't even have to go that route - they were happy with Henry Huggins
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)


Whoa... I spent about a cumulative year of my life on those books, and I don't think I read one after I turned 10. By the end, they were on the bookshelf with the spines down or else all the pages would have fallen out when I picked one up.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:35 AM (y87Qq)

187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:35 AM (lxZ71)

188 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (kQs4Y)

189 187 and his pro Cop killers backing

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (lxZ71)

190 hogmartin, I hope you read the Henry Reed books as well. Those were a lot of fun.

I would read those aloud to my kids after swim team practice in the summer. It would be mainly for the younger kids, but the older ones would drift in and drape themselves over the sofa and not budge, even though they'd read/heard them before.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)

191 Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - iirc, basic idea is decide what's important to you then maje time for it every day.
Kinda preachy though

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (CE6iV)

192 "I figured if I was going to die, he was going to have to work for it."

Words to live by.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 11:38 AM (atTnz)

193 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:22 AM (1UZdv)


I hope people are realizing that "a government powerful enough to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take away everything you have". Groups who want government to game the system in their favor inevitably get screwed over.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (/qEW2)

194 It will be interesting to compare and contrast the two books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)


I'm still waiting to hear what you think of Anatoly Zak's book. Mostly because I think you said you already had a copy and it's over $300 used, when I can find it.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (y87Qq)

195 170...
Not saying I'd be the badass. I'm saying this response has a better track record than Run if you can, hide if you can't run, fight as a last resort. Which maximizes your personal chance of survival, but ensures the shooter moves unobstructed for as long as possible.
Posted by: JPS at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (UgdG5)

When in dog-pile range then dog-pile.
Hiding in never a real option.
Run if you can. Run all the way home if you can.

Not to be callous, but if you can get away and don't get the cops will be even worse than the shooter. Sometimes you cannot get away from either (Boston marathon).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2018 11:40 AM (1g7ch)

196 Was just looking at the Stalin book, so little time and to much to read

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:43 AM (lxZ71)

197 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (kQs4Y)
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What link is that, Eris? I remember someone here linked an interview with him shortly after the inauguration, I think, where he said pretty much the same thing. I was really relieved that I wasn't the only one who thought that about NRO, which used to be my go-to place on the internet. How far the mighty have fallen.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:44 AM (JJZzu)

198 hogmartin, I hope you read the Henry Reed books as well. Those were a lot of fun.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)


Nope, that doesn't sound familiar. Too bad.

I pretty much went from Beverly Cleary to John Bellairs and then onward and that's made me the man I am today.

*tries to get up off couch*
*tangles feet in laptop cord, faceplants into coffee table*
*is eaten by cats*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:44 AM (y87Qq)

199 *tries to get up off couch*

*tangles feet in laptop cord, faceplants into coffee table*

*is eaten by cats*
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This seems to be my life as well.


Posted by: shibumi at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (SbIX4)

200 195 one thing the How to Survive book says is that your cell phone can get you killed.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (CE6iV)

201 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)

Nice review.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (EEqRQ)

202 ... the older ones
would drift in and drape themselves over the sofa and not budge, even
though they'd read/heard them before.



Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)


We only had one book when I was a child...Winnie the Pooh. I knew every word by heart by the time I was six. It didn't matter. I hung on every word Dad read till I was twelve.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 11:46 AM (atTnz)

203
So, the Soviet Right Stuff.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:11 AM


Or, in their case, The Left Stuff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 11:46 AM (IqV8l)

204 hogmartin:

https://tinyurl.com/HenryReed

It's never too late. You wouldn't regret spending a few hours reading this while your cats nibble your toes.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:47 AM (JJZzu)

205 Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically.

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That's nothing. He must enact programs that explicitly punish all men.

-Every third-wave femisist everywhere

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 11:49 AM (cAmtF)

206 194
I'm still waiting to hear what you think of Anatoly Zak's book. Mostly because I think you said you already had a copy and it's over $300 used, when I can find it.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (y87Qq)


Alas, that's one of many books I have that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. I spend too much time online.

It looks like it's still available from Zak's website:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/book_future.html

It's a large format paperback filled with many color illustrations, so it's more expensive than most books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:49 AM (sdi6R)

207 "VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for
over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election
he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

right, and not just to us "moron" types, they talk like that to VDH. He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work.

I cued my link to the part where he addresses the fake memes about Trump being so "low", and how they have always gone low.

That first Charlottesville rally (where violence was instigated by Antifa, yet only "white supremacists" got blame ... but Trump was roundly condemned for saying there were good people on both sides (a conciliatory, and true fact) Misguided, but many had good intent, and the whole thing was a pre-arranged "PsyOp" by the left.

The left attacks whole groups (true racism/bigotry) and in their view ... one side is evil, their side (antifa, BLM, DeepState) is good. The (often funded, as O'Keefe showed with Creamer) instigators of the left are low life liars.
link to Breitbart on exposing Creamer inciting violence, even as Hillary tries to blame Trump. The "violent pugnacious Trump" was a leftist meme.

https://tinyurl.com/ydegaz3y

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)

208 It's never too late. You wouldn't regret spending a few hours reading this while your cats nibble your toes.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:47 AM (JJZzu)


Waaaaait... maybe I have read these. "Midge Glass" sounds very familiar and that's not the kind of name where you say "oh, you mean the OTHER Midge Glass. No, not that one either, the other one."

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (y87Qq)

209 This brought back sweet memories of going to my town library with my mom when I was very little. Sometimes would drop me in the children's section downstairs. At first I could only check out a few books per trip. Eventually I could check out as many as I wanted and it was thrilling. We would tote home 10-15 picture books at a time. What a special treat.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2018 11:53 AM (Z48ZB)

210 ....and we're back!

The was one loooong mass. The homily was cut short so we could hear an appeal for contributions and the guy just went on and on and on. Two minutes in, and I think we were all ready to donate, but after 20 minutes I was starting to get a little tired of the narrative.

Meanwhile, back at the book thread:
Does anyone remember the Dilbert book titled "Seven Habits of Highly Defective People?" It was a hoot.

Libraries: Our local library never used cards until recently. If you wanted a book, you filled out a slip and simply signed it out. This was to symbolize their openness. Once you returned the book, they threw the slip away.

But with the digital age, they got actual cards (which was controversial, natch) and now we scan the bar code like everyone else.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM (cfSRQ)

211 Unlike "The Rocket Men", Oberg's book was published in 1981, when the Soviet Union was still a going concern and very secretive. Back in those days it took a lot of detective work and reading of tea leaves and entrails for Westerners to figure out what the Russkies were up to. I believe Oberg speaks and reads fluent Russian, so he was able to research Soviet publications for information.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)


Yes. Oberg had to do a lot of reading between lines, connecting invisible dots, discerning patterns in tea leaves, figuring out the truth from what Pravda chose NOT to say, etc.

And by all accounts, he did a pretty good job.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM (co6jd)

212 179 We scheduled summer vacations around which city was near enough to a Barnes and noble or a walmart in order to stand in line at midnight to get the newest Harry Potter book. Such a huge influence on my kid loving to read

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My teenager musical group was on tour when the last Potter book was released. We made arrangements to pick up books at a local bookstore at midnight when it all went down, however we didn't pass out the books that night since the big performance was the next day and we knew damn well they would stay up all night reading.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 11:56 AM (cAmtF)

213 https://youtu.be/4YtzgA310t0?t=323
bluebell, that is the VDH link all hail Eris referred to.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:56 AM (bT8Z4)

214 That first Charlottesville rally (where violence was instigated by Antifa, yet only "white supremacists" got blame ... but Trump was roundly condemned for saying there were good people on both sides (a conciliatory, and true fact) Misguided, but many had good intent, and the whole thing was a pre-arranged "PsyOp" by the left.
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Totally a "PsyOp" and everybody knows it--Trump certainly does and so does the media. That poor girl who had a heart attack--or was hit by the car, that was unplanned, and a lucky break for "the narrative."

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 11:57 AM (y8Foj)

215 Here's the VDH link, Bloobelle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtzgA310t0&feature=youtu.be&t=323

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:57 AM (kQs4Y)

216 hogmartin - the Homer Price books too. Very fun.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:58 AM (JJZzu)

217 Thanks, Eris!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:59 AM (JJZzu)

218 I watched Fox News Sunday and it seemed pretty laid back. Andrew Cuomo's foot in mouth disease was the most interesting. The negative response from the leftist crowd in attendance when he spoke was kind of interesting... my perception is that the 'moderate' middle is waking up to the pandering to the socialist crew and they're weighing their options.

My advice:
[X] Walk away
[X] Stay home in November
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (LOgQ4)


Do you think many in the audience gasped because they didn't agree with Cuomo ( that America was "never great") or because they quickly realized that he committed a faux pas that would turn up in political campaigns and commercials and strengthen Trump's hand?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (y8Foj)

219 216 hogmartin - the Homer Price books too. Very fun.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:58 AM (JJZzu)


I'll always remember 'Homer Price and the Doughnut Machine.'

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (co6jd)

220 187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

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Well, he possesses Muslim Melanin. The only thing more powerful would be to add in lesbian-disabled-immigrant.

(did I miss any boxes?)

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (cAmtF)

221 He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work....
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)
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In one of his NR articles years ago, VDH observed that few of his colleagues in academe could actually DO anything practical, such as was required on his farm.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 12:02 PM (kQs4Y)

222 87 ... "Kindle offered it to me for $9.95 or $7.95. Do you have the magic search phrase that turns up the free volume?"

Bandersnatch, When I search under books on Amazon and enter "the sailor's word book" without the quote marks the first item that comes up is the freebie Kindle version.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (V+03K)

223 187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

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Well, he possesses Muslim Melanin. The only thing more powerful would be to add in lesbian-disabled-immigrant.

(did I miss any boxes?)
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (cAmtF)

Apart from his vile comments and actions, Ellison just looks alike and talks like an asshole, a wise ass black Muslim asshole who knows that he'll never be called to account by most members of his party and the media....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (y8Foj)

224 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.

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Trump is from Queens right? Not our kind of people, or at least the kimd of people we pretend to be.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (cAmtF)

225 "The Killer Angels" was the book that got me to take a second look at Gettysburg. Prior to reading it, I found the battle rather dull, but it really brought it alive.

The movie based on it terrible. The best thing you can do is drink every time they say "general" or "ground."

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:04 PM (cfSRQ)

226 Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)

Calico Captive. I read that a couple of times as a kid. Checked it out from the town library, which was a 60s monstrosity (the one they built in the early 90s is much more attractive) but at least it held a lot of books. I wonder if Calico Captive is still available or if the SJW contingent has axed it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:08 PM (phT8I)

227 The movie based on it terrible. The best thing you can do is drink every time they say "general" or "ground."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:04 PM (cfSRQ)


They took us to see that in middle school, as we happened to be reading The Killer Angels in class at the time. I thought it was fine, but I haven't seen it since... it's ridiculously long for a movie.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

228
But with the digital age, they got actual cards (which was controversial, natch) and now we scan the bar code like everyone else.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM


The day that comes, long after you've printed and attached thousands of bar codes on books, attached them to every item in a couple of databases, printed a thousand individual library cards, installed the software, installed the bar code reader, and you hand it to the librarian and say, scan this first, then scan this, and you see the incredible smile on that persons face as the promise comes true...

Looking back, that was one of my better memories of life. And I did it all for free.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:11 PM (LOgQ4)

229 Bluebell, Calico Captive is available on Amazon and B and N.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (atTnz)

230 Loved "Killer Angels" and thought the movie was brilliant. It caused a road trip with the kids to the Gettysburg battlefield.

Posted by: Abby at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (/we70)

231 Speaking of travel books... this is what I read on vacation in Belize with my kids:

1) "Cardiac Arrest" by Howard Root. Non-fiction account of a recent DOJ prosecution atrocity. And you think Flynn is bad?

2) Autobiography (with co-author) of Sammy Hagar. The Red Rocker has genuine entrepreneurial talent! Also, he came from the most deprived background of any Caucasian I've ever read about-- got no breaks at birth whatsoever.

3) A scholarly biography of Wyatt Earp-- the first such ever written. Fascinating.

4) "Fiery Trial: Lincoln & American Slavery," by Pulitzer prize winning historian Eric Foner.

Posted by: strawdog at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (Cssks)

232 Ooops...229 was aimed at Polliwog. I'm sorry.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:13 PM (atTnz)

233 "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - iirc, basic idea is decide what's important to you then make time for it every day.

Kinda preachy though"
not sure which "leadership" book it was, maybe "In Pursuit of Excellence" that talks about KRAs, key result areas. Write down all the important things to you, label them as a, b, or c priority ... then do the A Priority things first.

It does help to have such lists, when key results are most important. One problem I saw was people can become machines acting out on prioritized lists. But constant reevaluation could still make those effectiveness tools useful.

The flip side though is what we see with the left ... a bunch of priority driven drones that are on their own self interest mission. The NeverTrumpers come to mind as well. The whole PC realm is KRA driven, but media drives their priorities.

So the parallel to a purpose driven life might be "choose your rut carefully, you might be in it a long time". People active in the arena of life have to adjust ... top down (central planners) control freaks will drive the round peg (individual liberty) through the square hole (fascism, hardened ideology). imo

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 12:15 PM (bT8Z4)

234 106---The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
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Alas, the very opposite is true. Librarians as a whole are far to the left of teachers.
(I'm talking about the individuals. Both the NEA and the ALA are hardcore left.)

I can only speculate as to why this is so, based on observations of my own and of a librarian friend.

Both fields are dominated by women, which makes them tilt left, but the proportion of MARRIED women in teaching is much higher.
Anecdotally --- AFAIK there are no stats on this --- the proportion of HETEROSEXUAL women is much higher too.

My librarian friend who got her degree back in the 90's says she was shocked when she first got to the library science school. It was like a Women's Studies department.

As for the librarian's "education," um, no. Library science is a technical field. It's all about methods. Yes, you have to be literate but you don't need a broad liberals arts education in the old sense of the word. That requirement went out in the 70's.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 12:15 PM (0jtPF)

235 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (atTnz)

236 nood dinosaurs killed not by giant meteor but by volcanoes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (/qEW2)

237 I haven't read "Killer Angels" but I liked the Gettysburg movie. I believe it featured hundreds of Civil War re-enactors as extras, firing cannons, etc.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 12:17 PM (sdi6R)

238 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)"


This !
Loved finding stuff that way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (58Au

He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work....
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)
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In one of his NR articles years ago, VDH observed that few of his colleagues in academe could actually DO anything practical, such as was required on his farm.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 12:02 PM (kQs4Y)



Going and doing has been the human way since forever,

and so, is deeply satisfying.

But, also keeps one connected to the real world and reality by physical learning.

A big part of our current problems as a nation is that Our Betters so disconnected from reality by their jobs, education, and inclination,

that they can't even change a tire.

It's beneath them, as is all physicality and thus the lessons of the possible.

That's the reason they fail us as gov't officials, educators, media.

Yes, yes, geniuses. Your minds can conceive anything,

but, your stupid ideas have real world consequences to real people if applied in the real world. (Hello-o-o-o-o-o Socialism!)

I don't know what the solution to this is-

However I do understand why one of the first actions by Castro, Mao, Pol Pot, etc was to stick intellectuals (even those who supported them) out in the cane fields for hard labor.

It was a dose of the real for their flighty minds.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:20 PM (9q7Dl)

239 Lovecraft?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)


A guy I know says that he always brought books into the field when on maneuvers, and got razzed to "read us all a story

Science fiction and horror were always cheap at the used bookstores near base, so those are what he bought to read.

So he read them Beyond the Mountains of Madness while in the middle of no-where on a dark moonless night, and never got bothered again.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (2K6fY)

240 Do you think many in the audience gasped because they didn't agree with Cuomo ( that America was "never great") or because they quickly realized that he committed a faux pas that would turn up in political campaigns and commercials and strengthen Trump's hand?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM


At times I entertain the concept of the 'moderate Democrat' who would be repulsed by such a statement of fact by Cuomo. I suppose it's because of my advancing age, and the fact that such a creature once roamed the Earth.

I'd like to believe that this rampant anti-Americanism has hit peak stupid and will now decline. November should tell the truth.

Either way, November may well be life-changing for me. I can't stay in this state anymore if the House is lost. I'll have to cut my losses, knowing damn well they'll be coming for my wallet, which isn't exactly flush with extra cash to redistribute.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (LOgQ4)

241 Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:13 PM (atTnz)

Thanks. I don't want to buy it though. Just wondering if new generations can find it in the library like I did. I guess I could check the library here at least.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (phT8I)

242 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (atTnz)


Just throwing this out - "You're Stepping on My Cloak and Dagger" by Roger Hall. Really quick and entertaining autobiographical account of a junior Army officer recruited into the OSS during WWII. People who Would Know (I'm not one) say it's one of those books that Intel people love because it's hilarious and true-to-life. I think I read it in about a day, if that's the kind of thing you're looking for.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (y87Qq)

243 He must enact programs that explicitly punish all men.

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Menocide.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (+y/Ru)

244 In Chicago. Was not at peace park shooting last night. :/

Large gathering of Milady's family for the 100th anniversary of her Dad's birth.

Books by her mom and brothers are on the table here. I don't have access to my bit.ly links, but search Amazon for Mary Jo Clark, Jack Clark, Vince Clark.

The Confidant - Vince - a politician and a detective search for vengeance

Private Path - the desk calendars of (Milady's mom) Mary Jo Ryan 1937-1943 edited by Jack Clark. Look also for Jack's detective novels.

Hard-gritten big city tales by Chicago natives.

Be sure to get to Amazon via Ace so he gets some pennies.

That's all for me. .. gotta get back to mingling.

Posted by: mindful webworker's cell at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (utimh)

245 195 one thing the How to Survive book says is that your cell phone can get you killed.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (CE6iV)

How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)

246 How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)



Could be.

My guess is that any ringing, beeping, whatever by your phone draws the shooter's attention.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (9q7Dl)

247 Thanks. I don't want to buy it though. Just wondering if new generations can find it in the library like I did. I guess I could check the library here at least.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (phT8I)
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As long as there are homeschoolers there will always be a market for books like these. I remember the Elizabeth Enright books coming back into print and I immediately ordered the whole set in hardback. She is my absolute favorite kiddie lit author.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 12:32 PM (JJZzu)

248 My guess is that any ringing, beeping, whatever by your phone draws the shooter's attention.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (9q7Dl)


The active shooter presentation they did in onboarding/indoc at work said basically that. You're hiding behind something or wedging a door shut, family and friends hear about the incident on the news. What's the first thing they do? Call to make sure you're OK. Then, when you don't answer, call again.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:33 PM (y87Qq)

249 creeper, try the Nero Wolfe series by Rex Stout. They're old and just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 12:33 PM (JJZzu)

250 Commenting now, will start thread afterward.

I finished the first two books of the Stainless Steel Rat series by Harry Harrison. I first heard of this back in college, and I purchased a collection of what was then all three books in the series but never finished it, and now it's lost to time. I got this volume through interlibrary loan. That forced me not to waste time that could be spent reading, because ILL does not allow unlimited renewal. Fortunately, I was going to fly to San Diego for vacation, so I had lots of time to read.

I was floored when I checked the copyright year of the first book -- 1961, the year I was born! That resulted in many anachronisms, particularly the idea of newspapers in an era of interplanetary travel. (I always note any mentions of newspapers; that's been the majority of my career. I even bought a NYT while in SD.)

Still, I enjoyed the books. They're the adventures of a career criminal who is captured by an agency that in turn recruits him. Set a thief to catch a thief.

HH wrote more books in the series since this collection was published, so the TBR list stays stable. At least I know I can still finish books, so the list will shrink -- provided I stay out of the library!

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:36 PM (CUP2I)

251 At times I entertain the concept of the 'moderate Democrat' who would be repulsed by such a statement of fact by Cuomo. I suppose it's because of my advancing age, and the fact that such a creature once roamed the Earth.

I'd like to believe that this rampant anti-Americanism has hit peak stupid and will now decline. November should tell the truth.

Either way, November may well be life-changing for me. I can't stay in this state anymore if the House is lost. I'll have to cut my losses, knowing damn well they'll be coming for my wallet, which isn't exactly flush with extra cash to redistribute.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (LOgQ4)

I do believe moderate Democrats still roam the earth --many of them voted for Trump in '16 (having previously voted for Obama in '08 and/or '12) but I wonder how many MORE Trump (and the GOP) can peel off. Or will the pressure they feel from friends/family/co-workers --and from the constant Trump hate of the media keep them in line next time out.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (y8Foj)

252 I've got that VDH speech going in the background, btw. Excellent stuff.
Did anyone see the CNN interview with the shrieking ex-intel lunatic?

Poster boy for incoherent privilege.

Alternate take: Upper-class white man tells black man to know his place.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:41 PM (cfSRQ)

253 How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)

yeah, what naturalfake said.

the guy being interviewed in the book speculated that the shooter who kept shooting the wounded/ dead in Orlamdo (iirc) was reacting to cell phone vibrations/ sounds.So anyone playing possum got shot.

Also pointed out that ppl were hiding in the bathroom and wasting their time and attention on their cell phones instead of on the situation

he says, I think, if you are in an active shooter situation, call 911, quickly relay relevant info, then either turn off your cell or leave it, still connected to 911 and move far away from it.
( that way 911 can hear what's happening without endangering you)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 12:41 PM (CE6iV)

254 About Carnegie libraries --

Girard, Kan., the closest thing I have to a hometown-- grew up on a farm -- is noted for being the smallest town to have a Carnegie library. It remains in use, although it's been enlarged.

One of my great-aunts was the librarian when I was young. Spent a lot of happy times there.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (CUP2I)

255 I love the Lost Fleet series and Jack Campbell is one of the nicest authors I've met. We were on a panel together last year, just the two of us, and he was deferential and genuinely curious about my work. Did you know he's also an Admiral in the U.S. Navy? His real name is John Hemry.

Posted by: William Alan Webb at August 19, 2018 12:54 PM (OhYcy)

256 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?

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creeper, try the Liturgical Mysteries by Mark Schweitzer. $2.99 apiece from Amazon. A police chief in a small N Carolina mountain town who is the Music Directo at the Episcopalian church and writes incredibly bizarre/terrible Ramond Chandleresque mysteries that even the Bulwer Lytton judges would go 'Dude, that's too weird even for us.'

And then it gets wacky.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:55 PM (cAmtF)

257 Creeper, Both the Nero Wolfe and Liturgical Mystery series are great suggestions. One caution: read the Liturgical Mysteries where you can laugh out loud without alarming people. I can't get through them without roaring with laughter.

One other suggestion. The Martha's Vineyard mystery series by Philip R. Craig. They are pleasant, witty and hard to figure out. And they usually have wonderful recipes at the end of each book that the characters mention in the story. Very enjoyable.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (V+03K)

258 "that they can't even change a tire.
It's beneath them, as is all physicality and thus the lessons of the possible.Posted by: naturalfake
yeah, their incompetence in those aspects of the self reliance arena would be embarrassing, so they cover it with arrogance/pride. probably not even a cognizant action ... it is basic "inferiority complex" anxiety, relieved/comforted by joining a group of fellow role playing self-proclaimed "academic elite".

Dirty Harry said a man has to know (and accept?) his limitations. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (bT8Z4)

259 @235
Murder in Thrall

Posted by: artemis at August 19, 2018 02:17 PM (AwPyG)

260 HH wrote more books in the series since this
collection was published, so the TBR list stays stable. At least I know I
can still finish books, so the list will shrink -- provided I stay out
of the library!
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:36 PM (CUP2I)


Try the Deathworld Trilogy also, it is more of the same. Jason dinAlt is pretty cool too, but sort of hang-dog since everyone around him is stronger, faster and deadlier than he.

Harrison decided to focus on sales early in his career, since he planned to write as a profession, and decided from his history of writing copy, that you had to catch the editor's eye in the first half page, since often that was all that was seen from the pile of new manuscripts.

He claimed to have sat down regularly and rattled off a series of exciting half page starts to stories that are designed to pop you between the eyes, introduce an individual you really like or really dislike, and make you ask, "what the heck is going to happen next?"

He stated that as an editor himself, he found so many authors should have thrown away the first 2-5 pages of their manuscripts before submitting them, and part of his job was getting the authors to accept that.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (2K6fY)

261 48
I read the first five of the "Lost Fleet" series and found them to be
pretty good reads. The main character is a bit too angst-ridden for my
tastes but Campbell actually takes into account that combat would occur
in three-dimensional space.



These are essentually written as two separate series. The first
series of five books covers the hero defeating the Syndic Worlds while
the next series covers the war with the aliens that had been
manipulating the humans in the first series.
Retired Buckeye Cop-The main character is a big angst ridden- hoping that changes somewhat, but I was taken with the combat theory as well. So, I will take a shot at the next few, but keep in mind the series.
And I those are my travel books - clocked 25K miles this summer on a plane...

Posted by: Charlotte at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (mt65F)

262 22 Good morning! This week I read Deeper Then the Good, five Tammy Hoag.

D'oh! Darn auto-cucumber! Deeper Than the Dead, by Tammy Hoag!

(I dictated my blurb to my iPad while on teh treadmill at the Y!)

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (ihzOe)

263 When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

Classeh AND frilliant!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (ihzOe)

264 229
Bluebell, Calico Captive is available on Amazon and B and N.
Not sure how long they will last, but if you are a member of Bookmooch, there are two copies of Calico Captive available.

Posted by: Charlotte at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (mt65F)

265 I saw a trailer for the movie "Operation Finale", which will be opening soon. It's about the capture of Adolf Eichmann by Israeli agents in Buenos Aires in 1961. The movie probably will suck (remember, this is Hollywood history), though Ben Kingsley plays Eichmann, which could be very interesting. However, the trailer did nudge me to pull Neil Bascomb's "Hunting Eichmann" off the shelf and re-read it.
"Hunting" is the definitive history of the Eichmann's escape from Europe, the manhunt for him, and his discovery and capture; yet it reads like a thriller, a real page-turner. I have to warn you: once you open the book, you will find it very difficult to put down.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (S6ArX)

266 Wow, this was a short thread!

Kindltot, in regard to snappy openings, that's one of the many reasons why I love Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm books. The man knew how to grab eyeballs.

"It was an acid job, and they're never pretty to look at ..."

"I always feel guilty about smuggling a gun through Mexican customs."

"That morning in Ensenada, the day I got shot at ..."

And on a related subject, Hamiltion was circumspect with his sex scenes. He would end a chapter with a leading line and pick up the story at the start of the next chapter, hours (or minutes) after the act.

I have no objection to pornographic writing, but I prefer porn to stay in porn and not stray into other genres.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (wDrsJ)

267 I'm in the middle of Michael Edelson's thriller Theft of Fire. It's a real roller-coaster, and I'm enjoying it immensely when I don't have to put it down to regain serenity. A Delta force operative is tricked into doing something he would never have done.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at August 19, 2018 04:09 PM (KcRPn)

268 One of the fun bits of the Lost Fleet series is the covers. They all show the hero in battle armor, looking all brave and tough, while he *never* gets in that situation in the books. I think it's the 4th or 5th book where that finds its way into the story.
Good reads.

Posted by: GWB at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (EFhmz)

EMT 08/19/18

I don't know if it's occurred to anyone yet, but I'm really not a morning person.

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1 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, August 19, 2018. On this day in 1692 in Salem, Province of Massachusetts Bay, five people, one woman and four men, including a clergyman, were executed after being convicted of witchcraft. IIANM these five people were executed by hanging. A lot of popular movies like to portray these 'convicted witches' were executed by burning at the stake. That is a popular myth, none of the so-called Salem witches were burned at the stake. Liberals like to hawk this as an example of mass hysteria caused by religion. I view it as mass hysteria caused by an absolute dictatorship of city leadership. Similar to what we have in a lot of blue cities now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

2 We now know that WH aids have testified to the Mueller witch hunt many times. We also now that he is given up on his charter to seek out Russia collusion after a year of searching and finding none so now he is looking for a process crime of obstruction of justice. That is what perjury traps are for and why he wants Trump to come in to be grilled by his team of witch hunters.


http://tinyurl.com/ycajakco

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

3 A University of CO professor has assigned a required reading book that falsely accuses Trump of all manner of sins. So tell me again why a 4 year college diploma is worth a shit now. CO used to be a nice Western State but has been transformed into just another blue Hell due to a massive influx of locusts from failed blue States.


http://tinyurl.com/y98lstnl

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

4 The first of the Duck Boat civil suits have started. I predict the company will file for bankruptcy.


http://tinyurl.com/y962q63n

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

5 And speaking of blue Hells, Chicago people held a picnic to promote peace in children returning to school. It was peaceful, only three people were shot and one person beaten up by thugs.


http://tinyurl.com/yau7q7ed

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

6 Mueller witch hunt says George Papadopoulos will go to prison over process crime manufactured by the witch hunt and the corrupt FBI.


http://tinyurl.com/ybdx7adl

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

7 Blue State communists in 'safe Demo-commie' districts are increasingly sending Joo-Hate commies to congress.


http://tinyurl.com/ybvv3wla

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

8 Many of you have probably seen articles blasting Trump because an illegal alien in CA was arrested while taking his pregnant wife to a hospital to deliver an anchor baby. What the MFM is not telling you is that he was wanted for murder in Mexico.


http://tinyurl.com/ybo7y2s2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

9 And heritage looks at the demands to abolish ICE and what that impact would be. They also note that the illegal arrested in CA who was wanted for murder in Mexico had been previously arrested in several hard left sanctuary cities and released.


http://tinyurl.com/y8qfcnnw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

10 Mornings are for closers.

Posted by: Jerk with watch and steak knives at August 19, 2018 06:01 AM (w6Y4b)

11 Houston man who made a bomb in an attempt to blow up an evil confederate statue gets a whole 6 year sentence. This crime was prosecuted by the State of TX and not the feds. But it does fall under the federal code for use of a weapon of mass destruction ( 18 U.S. Code 2332a) which without a death gets you a life sentence. But, it's the 'thought' that counts, not the law. We are no longer a nation of laws as far as the DOJ is concerned.


http://tinyurl.com/y98mfkdk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)