Food Thread: A Tale Of Two Restaurants...And Tacos!

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Those are the tacos from Cocina Madrigal, a casual Mexican restaurant in Phoenix. Below are the tacos served in lettuce wraps, which sounds sort of silly but is actually quite good!

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A Sunday dinner reservation during a holiday weekend in Sedona Arizona is a difficult thing indeed. But Mariposa (no link, because they don't deserve it) was well reviewed, and I thought, "What the hell, if there are no tables, maybe they will take walk-ins, and of course there is always the bar (which I love)!

As we drove up the valets started waving frantically for me to continue to pull around the circle in front of the restaurant...or maybe they were in the midst of some sort of drug-induced seizure...I couldn't tell.

Apparently the lights of the cars in the driveway shine into the restaurant (brilliant design!), and we can't have that! We were then informed that they wouldn't park the car for us because we didn't have a reservation, and that "We eat early in Sedona," whatever that is supposed to mean. They were condescending and rude and altogether unpleasant, telling us that if we really wanted to come into the restaurant we would have to go to another parking lot, but that they didn't recommend it.

We went to another equally packed restaurant, where we were welcomed by a friendly greeter who said that we might have luck at the bar...and we did. Five minutes later we were sitting at a crowded but friendly bar having cocktails and reading the menu.

Fast forward 24 hours...

We walked into Cocina Madrigal, a new restaurant in an industrial part of Phoenix. We had made a reservation (look! I can learn!) so we weren't worried, and I was intrigued by the uniformly excellent reviews.

Except...the young lady who had taken the reservation earlier that day had forgotten to note it in their system, and we were once again without a table for dinner! But Leo Madrigal runs a better restaurant than the pompous asses of Mariposa, and he had trained his employees in customer service. The greeter cheerfully took care of us, with a gentle warning that the restaurant was crowded and that there may be an extended wait for the food.

We wandered over to the bar (packed) hoping to order a drink, and while we waited we observed the waiters and bus boys and greeter and yes, the owner, bussing tables and serving food and taking orders, all at top speed with smiles on their faces and a cheerful word for every customer.

Was there an extended wait? Nope. And the Margaritas were good while we waited! We ordered simply....a bowl of guacamole and those tacos above the fold. The guacamole was excellent, and those tacos were great. Perfectly in balance, without too much of anything and without the big piles of cheese that ruin so many tacos I have eaten. Well, not ruin, but the cheese, while tasty, masks the other flavors, and Mr. Madrigal's kitchen was making top notch pork and beef and fish and chicken and shrimp, so why not feature that? Oh, those beans? They were fantastic!

We had the pleasure of the owner's company for a few minutes after we finished our excellent meal. We chatted about this and that, and his pride in his employees and his food was clear, and absolutely deserved.

How did one man create a friendly and welcoming atmosphere in which to showcase his culinary and hospitality skills, and another create a restaurant that made us feel so unwelcome that I felt compelled to write about it? I think we all have some ideas about that, but it comes down to not losing that human connection to one's customers.

I am sure that the food at Mariposa is fine, although when I go back to Sedona (and I will, because it is beautiful) I will carefully steer clear. But when I am next in Phoenix? I'm going straight to Cocina Madrigal from the airport (less than 10 minutes away). And I hope any of you in the area for business or pleasure and in need of a restaurant for a simple and excellent meal will give it a shot. This isn't white tablecloth dining...it is spartan and simple. But the food and service are topnotch, and the prices are extremely reasonable, and that is a combination that is hard to beat.

[No, he didn't comp our meal (nor should he have)]

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Okay...it's old, but it's also weird. Butter cookies with peanuts? I guess?

Actually, it is Canadian peanut butter, courtesy of commenter "Vendette," who seems to have some strange connection to America's hat.

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I like hot sauces, and I can't recall one that I did not like, aside from the really stupid ones made from pure ghost pepper or scotch bonnets. That is pure masochism and food virtue signalling.

Here's a fun video about the production of the most famous hot sauce of them all...How the Tabasco Factory Makes 700,000 Bottles of Hot Sauce Per Day. I like Tabasco sauce, although I have very limited experience with their flavors other than the classic one.

Speaking of hot sauces, I really enjoy the regional ones, and will seek out those bottles at breakfast joints and more casual restaurants when i am traveling.

How about you? Any regional favorites?

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TMI. Way, way TMI!


So you just ate a pile of hot chicken. Guess what happens in about 24 hours?

If you thought that hot chicken you just braved burned going in, imagine what it's gonna feel like on its way out. Sure, all the hot flashes and cold sweats were a real gas, when you were showing off around a table of like-minded thrill-seekers. But as with so many difficult challenges in life, you'll be doing battle with the demons of intestinal fortitude completely alone. (Unless you're into some weird group-elimination thing we don't even want to know about.)

Oops! Hat Tip: TxMarko
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I am vastly amused by British recipes (yes, I am simple). The cooking vernacular is a strange mix of all sorts of things, like "courgette" for zucchini, or "runny honey" for...um...honey. I guess the British also used solidified honey so they have to specify, but it still makes me chuckle.
Roast pork with peaches, garlic roast potatoes and courgette gratin
Anyway, this is a pretty standard pork-with-fruit dish, but I noticed the potato variety as a new one to me. I take British potatoes very seriously, because they are, in the main, better than ours. Fried, roasted, stewed...they're usually great.
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Food and cooking tips, Large-breasted Muscovy ducks, well-marbled NY strips, bartenders who use vermouth in Martinis, crisp bacon (although I am moving toward less crisp), thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

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1 Yay! Food thread in grey boxes.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:01 PM (Dhht7)

2 Chow time

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:01 PM (ZCEU2)

3 Ha ha, old dog its your turn to get them

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:01 PM (ZCEU2)

4 Sedona, huh? So now you're going to go on about healing crystals and sleeping under power pyramids?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:05 PM (gd9RK)

5 https://i.postIMG.cc/QxG8PTMv/20200223-073856.jpg
My Dutch Baby today came out perfect, leftover for a easy breakfast tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:05 PM (ZCEU2)

6 OT Early:

A Flat Earth Lunatic named Mad Mike Hughes launched himself into the air on Saturday on a homemade rocket ship, as part of his quest to prove that the Earth is shaped like a frisbee.

Results pretty predictable:

https://tinyurl.com/Mad-Mike-Rocket

ProTip: Make sure parachute doesn't deploy on takeoff.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (M2rKR)

7 Vendette caused this, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (tT0V4)

8 I thought last week you said we didn't need to nood on wknd threads, Skip?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:07 PM (Dhht7)

9 "My Dutch Baby today came out perfect, leftover for a easy breakfast tomorrow"

Are they done in a Dutch Oven?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 04:07 PM (tT0V4)

10
Sedona? Not particularly surprising, given the kind of town it is. Snooty, rich lefties apparently like to be treated like dog shit. Saw the same thing in snooty SoCal coastal towns.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2020 04:08 PM (eXA4G)

11 9 "My Dutch Baby today came out perfect, leftover for a easy breakfast tomorrow"

Are they done in a Dutch Oven?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 04:07 PM (tT0V4)

They're already very tender. Like veal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:08 PM (NWiLs)

12 Your dutch baby looks very good, Skip.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:09 PM (Dhht7)

13 Wonderful food thread - Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: ibguy at February 23, 2020 04:09 PM (EHVbt)

14 I don't eat French toast so maple syrup advocacy is very unlikely.
I feel like stopping for a beverage on my way home. I'd like a cocktail but they're twice as expensive as beer. Hmmm what to do?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at February 23, 2020 04:11 PM (eAMlh)

15 I always sit at the bar when I go out to eat.

Talk to the bartender, ask what's good and how are things going, have a few drinks, eat and leave a nice tip.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (Z+IKu)

16 I feel like stopping for a beverage on my way home. I'd like a cocktail but they're twice as expensive as beer. Hmmm what to do?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at February 23, 2020 04:11 PM (eAMlh)

Stretch your dollar by purchasing two beers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

17 I'm making jambalaya. Portuguese sausage, duck and prawns.

I am using the Slap Yo Mama seasoning I got from Ben Had. It smells wonderful.

And, yes....there is okra. Lots of fresh okra.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (PkVlr)

18 Stretch your dollar by purchasing two beers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

My thinking exactly.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (eAMlh)

19 I always sit at the bar when I go out to eat.

Talk to the bartender, ask what's good and how are things going, have a few drinks, eat and leave a nice tip.



Also, the bartender will notice much more quickly when you want a refill than a waitress will.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:13 PM (gd9RK)

20 Sorry to hear that about Mariposa. My wife and I walked in and ate at the bar. It was good, I don't recall it being worth the hype but it was good. I think the deal with Mariposa is to catch the sunset there. We were too late but the sunset on the red rocks is stunning.

Posted by: Liberace at February 23, 2020 04:13 PM (g9x4e)

21 My Dutch Baby today came out perfect

I want to fight him.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at February 23, 2020 04:14 PM (EgshT)

22 Everything in those two pics looks delicious, however, I am not sure they qualify as tacos since there is no way that you ate those without half of what was in the tortilla falling out.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:14 PM (HALdu)

23 Those tacos look great-with or without tortillas.
Maybe I should go out and get some (but not in AZ while husband and son are having a male bonding experience going to see the movie 1917.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:15 PM (WI7YS)

24 Stopped at a favorite little place on the way back from the range on Thursday. They're (rightly) famous for their carnitas, but this time went with tacos. They only do "street" or Mexico City-style tacos (little ones, open-faced) on weekends, so these were regular. Very good.

Funny, but the quality and diversity of Mexican food have improved dramatically the last few decades in the border region. Used to be just "border Mex" - which is great, but basic. Now there are many more interesting items or twists on many menus (regional dishes, birria, etc.).

Still not very many truly regional Mexican restaurants, though. LA has a few. Mexican cuisine is actually one of the largest and best in the world, but very little of it makes it to restaurants in the US.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:16 PM (El6T/)

25 I love sitting at the bar for dinner. I'm teaching my oldest son it's the place to be. It's fun to go out with him as an adult and have a beer or two and eat at the bar. So much more social, and real.

Now, if I could learn how to do it by myself...

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (PkVlr)

26 Um, I suspect Vendette sent you that photo for the expiration date contest, not the recipe.

Posted by: bluebell at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (/669Q)

27 Great thread CBD, thanks!

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (K22Va)

28 I used to make many business trips to S. California before I retired. Often taken to snooty restaurants where the waiter spent 20 minutes describing each item on the menu. And our host would point out the very expensive car parked out front belonged to the owner. After seeing the bills, I can see why he could afford it. Living in a small town back east, I just didn't enjoy it at all! Wine at 100 dollars a bottle??

Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (sUl9n)

29 olddog - its Saturday's, who is hanging out on the pet thread all afternoon commenting.

Browning the apples in butter is a guess in time, actually it all is I guess. Should have done a few extra sausages today for tomorrow as well.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:18 PM (ZCEU2)

30 Those tacos look great-with or without tortillas.
Maybe I should go out and get some (but not in AZ while husband and son are having a male bonding experience going to see the movie 1917.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:15 PM (WI7YS)


Just FYI, "al pastor" doesn't mean they actually make the tacos out of real pastors. It's mostly pork and lay leaders.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 04:18 PM (t+qrx)

31 Think I'll have some boilt peanuts!

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:18 PM (MVjcR)

32 And "protein style" has spread to many things, including tacos. Which is good, to have as an option.

The lettuce garden always produces more than we can use, and this year I started doing "protein style" (the In n Out name for lettuce subbing for bun with a burger) at home with grilled burgers. Outstanding (lettuce picked 10 minutes before eating does have better flavor and crispness).

Of course Vietnamese and some Thai dishes have always used lettuce as the "tortilla", with great success.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:19 PM (El6T/)

33 Tossed a bunch of odds and ends I found in the fridge (spinach, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower) into the Instant Pot, along with some elbow macaroni, diced tomatoes, veggie broth and oregano and basil. Stirred in some fresh basil and Parmesan cheese after it cooked. It turned out surprisingly well - basically lazy ass minestrone.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at February 23, 2020 04:19 PM (d6Ksn)

34 I will preface this by the admission that I am a culinary troglodyte but those just don't look like tacos that I would order. I'm guessing that they are tasty, though.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 23, 2020 04:20 PM (EgshT)

35 And, yes....there is okra. Lots of fresh okra.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:12 PM (PkVlr)


Mmmm...snot!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:20 PM (NWiLs)

36 "Get a popsicle and stick it up there"

You're not here for the chicken, are you?

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 04:20 PM (Tnijr)

37 Um, I suspect Vendette sent you that photo for the expiration date contest, not the recipe.
Posted by: bluebell at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (/669Q)


It's still good. It's labeled in Canadian years.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 04:20 PM (t+qrx)

38 I use a black iron, butter well and fry apple slices for some time, still on stove pour pancake batter over and cook awhile. After the guess bottom is done into a preheated oven at 350 until top is done, often browning the top ( bottom really) then flip out like a upside down cake.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:21 PM (ZCEU2)

39 CBD, was it real a "reservation" they lost or a "preferred seating reservation?" So few restaurants do true reservations, except for the high end ones.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (Dhht7)

40 oh, Insom..

If I make it, you'll like it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PkVlr)

41 Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 04:18 PM (t+qrx)

Thanks; I always get nervous when I see "pastor" on the menu.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (WI7YS)

42 OK, I can't tell what the tacos on top are supposed to contain. Grilled chicken, pulled chicken, and falafel?

I'm not a taco purist but that seems like calling a choclatini a martini. A taco is ground mystery meat, lettuce, tomato, and sour cream.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:23 PM (gd9RK)

43 I bought a thermal yogurt maker. It's non-electric, stainless steel. I like it, so much that I ordered a thermal cooker.

And I tried making no knead bread with my new sourdough starter. I thought it was okay at first. I took it out of the oven, then came back later and found it deflated. I put it back in for 15 minutes. It tastes fine.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 23, 2020 04:23 PM (Lqy/e)

44 Still not very many truly regional Mexican restaurants, though. LA has a few. Mexican cuisine is actually one of the largest and best in the world, but very little of it makes it to restaurants in the US.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:16 PM (El6T/)

Yep. I remember going to a Yucatan restaurant in Puerto Rico and having a great dish - it was pork cooked in oranges and some sort of spices. I've never seen it in any other Mexican restaurant I've been to.

The ceviche was also quite good.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at February 23, 2020 04:23 PM (d6Ksn)

45 Hi Fen!

I so enjoyed seeing you chatting books yesterday on the Chess Thread.

And I love the story of your boy playing word games and laughing. I hope he is dong well. Yall are still in my thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:24 PM (PkVlr)

46 On my second try, got "pollo al limone" (lemon chicken) right.

Doubled the amount of lemon juice and zest.

It was as good as what I remember having in Rome, where I originally fell in like with the dish.

Our meyer lemons are extremely tasty.

So now I have another way to use them. Added pickled lemons to the product line-up this year (also make preserves, limoncello, and salted/preserved lemons). Pickled slices are great on baked or grilled fish, or chicken.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:24 PM (El6T/)

47 Ok, CBD, so if the Mariposa took a collective dump on you and yours, what was the name of the restuarant you went to that you *were* successful at?

On an unrelated note, I checked the shelves and found a matched pair of Marmite jars with May 2005 expiration dates...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (7s3Gx)

48 I'm going to have a double bourbon and try reading this post again.

Posted by: Caliban at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (QE8X6)

49
Went to brunch today with FiL and MiL up the road in their retirement community in PA. Nothing special about the food -- standard Sunday brunch fare -- but FiL mentioned he was beginning to forget things (he turns 91 in two months) and MiL ventured that she was receiving transfusions for low iron in her blood (she's 89). I take it as my job to keep things light and humorous, but I also made a point of inquiring of FiL about things that I knew he had done in younger years, just to boost his spirits.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (pNxlR)

50 Think I'll have some boilt peanuts!

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:18
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AKA, spoilt peanuts.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (Dhht7)

51 Oh, just noticed Vendette's picture. For those of you not fluent in Canadian, "Biscuits au beurre arachide" means "biscuits in spider butter".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (gd9RK)

52 Went to brunch today with FiL and MiL up the road in their retirement community in PA. Nothing special about the food -- standard Sunday brunch fare -- but FiL mentioned he was beginning to forget things (he turns 91 in two months) and MiL ventured that she was receiving transfusions for low iron in her blood (she's 89). I take it as my job to keep things light and humorous, but I also made a point of inquiring of FiL about things that I knew he had done in younger years, just to boost his spirits.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February



100?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:26 PM (HALdu)

53 I don't think I've ever eaten that was that hot. Even the buffalo wings which I've had are not incredibly hot.

I like spicy food, but the hottest thing which I have ever eaten was when I was in my mid twenties. It was some Thai vegetable. (I was a vegetarian at the time) It burned my mouth. I don't recall when happened at the other end The owners of the restaurant (it was new) must not have acclimated to the food tastes of many Americans yet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (WI7YS)

54
Thanks; I always get nervous when I see "pastor" on the menu.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (WI7YS)


How about "rector"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (pNxlR)

55 Wife use to make yogurt in a cooler, with milk and a heat pad, Did it alot, thankfully not any more.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (ZCEU2)

56 51 Oh, just noticed Vendette's picture. For those of you not fluent in Canadian, "Biscuits au beurre arachide" means "biscuits in spider butter".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (gd9RK)

Made from spider milk, or ground like peanuts?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

57 40 oh, Insom..

If I make it, you'll like it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PkVlr)

That so?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:28 PM (NWiLs)

58 On a continent, keep walking and you can find some decent food. On an island, you might have to swim for it.

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 04:28 PM (RuIsu)

59
100?
Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:26 PM (HALdu)


I guess. Apologies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:29 PM (pNxlR)

60 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:24 PM (PkVlr)

Thanks. That's very sweet of you and I greatly appreciate the thoughts and prayers. I'm glad you didn't mind me discussing books in the chess thread. The only time I can get on that thread is when I have a day off or it begins right before I leave for church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (WI7YS)

61 In my humble opinion, the BEST Mexican cuisine in all of Arizona (I've lived here more than 40 years) is Elote Café in Sedona. They're changing locations soon but the food is spectacular. For what I call traditional, old-school Arizona Mexican food (plates too hot to touch!), try TeePee on Indian School Road in Phoenix.

Posted by: Joseph E. Shaffer at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (Qf08A)

62 Donna, coulda been "cochinita pibil", the Yucatan-style pork stew using citrus and achiote. Authentically done, it's steamed in banana leaves. But a slow-cooker version is pretty good and much easier.

Achiote pork chops (grilled) are easy and very tasty. Just look for the little box of achiote paste in a Latin grocery store. Recipes are simple and easy to find online. Marinate the chops, nice version of pork chops if you're looking for variety.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (El6T/)

63 Wife is determined to teach me how to cook. Tonight is Shepard's Pie. Basic recipe of mashed taters, ground beef and corn.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (J9I4C)

64 No cooking for me the past few days. My kitchen is mostly torn up. Although hubby is working on the last section that includes the sink area...which he has ripped out.

No where to order dinner from.....?

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (cF8AT)

65 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (pNxlR)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:31 PM (WI7YS)

66 I believe 100 rule is only "strictly" enforced on art thread. Or did I miss a memo?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:31 PM (Dhht7)

67 57 40 oh, Insom..

If I make it, you'll like it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PkVlr)

That so?
Posted by: Insomniac

or not. nevermind then

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:31 PM (PkVlr)

68 There is a restaurant in Cozumel that makes the best shrimp tacos I have ever eaten. They come out on a sizzling platter with nothing but carmelized onions and little shrimp that fit perfectly on the small tortillas. There is guacomole and two excellent sauces, but no cheese. It is always my first dinner when I get to the island. The owner comes out and greets you like an old friend. One time when I commented that his avocados were alwasy perfectly ripe and how did he know, he went back in the kitchen and brought out a couple and showed me how to judge them. Haven't picked a bad one since.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (QzF6i)

69 I don't think Krebs was in violation anyway, he mentioned that whatever transpired was over a meal at a restaurant.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (gd9RK)

70 63 Wife is determined to teach me how to cook. Tonight is Shepard's Pie. Basic recipe of mashed taters, ground beef and corn.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (J9I4C)

Made from real shepherds!

My understanding is that authentic shepherd's pie is made with ground lamb. If it's made with beef it's cottage pie.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (NWiLs)

71
The advantage with the lettuce wrapped "tacos" would be lower carbs than with tortillas and you'd get a better idea of the flavors of the filling(s). Worth giving it a try, I guess.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (pNxlR)

72 Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (M2rKR)

Weird how only Earth is horizontally flat and everything else is flat vertically. This explains why bernie still has support.

Posted by: Shadow Inc at February 23, 2020 04:33 PM (vKhgw)

73 I suspect Vendette sent you that photo for the expiration date contest, not the recipe.

Posted by: bluebell at February 23, 2020 04:17 PM (/669Q)

I guess the "Okay...it's old" part of the commentary was too subtle for you?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:33 PM (dLLD6)

74 I don't think Krebs was in violation anyway, he mentioned that whatever transpired was over a meal at a restaurant.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:32
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Agreed.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:34 PM (Dhht7)

75 Worth giving it a try, I guess.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (pNxlR)

Yes, the low-carb is nice, but the lettuce was actually pretty flavorful and added a bit of texture, so it worked well on its own.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:34 PM (dLLD6)

76 In the EMT thread yesterday, NaturalFake requested (and BlueBell provided) a Sauerbraten recipe. For anyone interested, here is a nice side dish ...

MILD AND CREAMY SAUERKRAUT
In a moderate saucepan with lid, fry 8 slices thick bacon until crisp. Leave grease in pan; drain bacon, crumble and set aside. Saute 1 medium onion (chopped) in bacon grease just until tender. Add 2-lbs. sauerkraut (bagged or canned); mix thoroughly. Stir in 1.25 cups unsweetened applesauce (half of a 24-oz. jar). Bring to simmer; then cover and simmer all day (at least 4 hours); the longer the creamier. Alternately, this long stretch of cooking can happen in an oven, or in a slow cooker overnight. Serve warm. Yummy on grilled bratwurst and hotdogs also.

Posted by: Kathy at February 23, 2020 04:34 PM (qv3wo)

77 I think the lettuce wrapped taco was invented by the Koreans.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:34 PM (HALdu)

78 I don't think Krebs was in violation anyway, he mentioned that whatever transpired was over a meal at a restaurant.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:32




B. S.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (HALdu)

79 How about "rector"?

rector ?

Durn near kilt 'er !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (arJlL)

80 Insom, there's a place here you might like on North Street ... Insomnia Cookies. I think of you every time we pass it.

Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (Zmx4Q)

81 Yummy on grilled bratwurst and hotdogs also.


Turning Germanese I think I'm turning Germanese I really think so.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:36 PM (gd9RK)

82
Yes, the low-carb is nice, but the lettuce was actually pretty flavorful and added a bit of texture, so it worked well on its own.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:34 PM (dLLD6)


Good to know - thanks. Will definitely give this a try as I have to get back into the intermittent fasting regimen and regular exercise and there's no point in having my food choices work against me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:36 PM (pNxlR)

83 B. S.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:35
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Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:37 PM (Dhht7)

84 B. S.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (HALdu)



You don't have any friends, do you?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:37 PM (gd9RK)

85 Not a winner for oldest use but finished a can of Crisco been using for years expired Aug 2017, was determined to get every bit out of it. Meanwhile its replacement has been sitting unopened, expiring as I write I guess.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:37 PM (ZCEU2)

86 what was the name of the restuarant you went to that you *were* successful at?


Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (7s3Gx)


https://thehudsonsedona.com/


Nice place. Has a corporate restaurant vibe, but the food was fine.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:38 PM (dLLD6)

87 Not every thread is an invitation for everybody to dump their misery at the HQ

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:38 PM (HALdu)

88 My understanding is that authentic shepherd's pie is made with ground lamb. If it's made with beef it's cottage pie.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:32 PM (NWiLs)


The cow's name was Lamb. Does that count?

And the verdict is in. Not enough beef and I cooked it too long, but everyone ate it so I guess that's something.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 04:38 PM (J9I4C)

89 80 Insom, there's a place here you might like on North Street ... Insomnia Cookies. I think of you every time we pass it.
Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (Zmx4Q)

Sweet! I'm famous and I didn't even know it!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:38 PM (NWiLs)

90 I made the Tuscan Meat Roll out of a Marcella Hazan book yesterday. I don't know of a bad recipe in that book.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 04:39 PM (K22Va)

91 CBD, was it real a "reservation" they lost or a
"preferred seating reservation?"

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (Dhht7)

No idea! But it worked out perfectly, and everyone was so damned friendly that we just chuckled and enjoyed the evening.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:39 PM (dLLD6)

92 Hot sauce: How about you? Any regional favorites?
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Not exactly regional, but I've always figured that this is the one that Hillary carries in her purse:
http://thescornedwomanhotsauce.com/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 04:39 PM (xSo9G)

93 That hoity-toity over priced food scullery deserves to go out of f business. But knowing Finagles Law, it will probably succeed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 04:40 PM (Rdohv)

94 https://thehudsonsedona.com/


Nice place. Has a corporate restaurant vibe, but the food was fine.


Cool. If I get on back up that way, I'll have to give it a go...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 04:40 PM (7s3Gx)

95 Insomnia cookies......made with meth ?

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 04:40 PM (arJlL)

96 Tuscan Meat Roll? Where does he drink?

Posted by: shep Smith at February 23, 2020 04:40 PM (11H2y)

97
You don't have any friends, do you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:37 PM (gd9RK)


LOL. My son used to love to play a "clear the decks and reset everyone to initial conditions" card in a game we used to play as a family. I'd usually say to him when that happened, "And that is why no one wants to play games with you." Then we'd both laugh.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:41 PM (pNxlR)

98 67 57 40 oh, Insom..

If I make it, you'll like it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PkVlr)

That so?
Posted by: Insomniac

or not. nevermind then
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:31 PM (PkVlr)

Boiled okra is...a challenging substance, is my only point.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:41 PM (NWiLs)

99 A fellow in my church won a cake from a local bakery and he brought it for after church. It was beautifully decorated with blue flowers and leaves. I couldn't eat any because of gluten issues, but it had red devil cake which I like. I said "Don't you want to take some home for your family?" He said my daughters don't eat any of that stuff. They don't live with him, but they are food Nazis. They're are wonderful daughters and I like them very much, but they are so worried about their mother's health (she had a heart attack) but they ban everything when they come in the house. He said "We're in our late 80s. How long do you expect us to live?''

On the other hand, another guy at church said "Yesterday was my birthday. I had cake even though I'm not supposed to because I'm diabetic.
I'm 77. If I want to have cake on my birthday. I darn well am going to. His family didn't mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:42 PM (WI7YS)

100 97
You don't have any friends, do you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:37 PM (gd9RK)

LOL. My son used to love to play a "clear the decks and reset everyone to initial conditions" card in a game we used to play as a family. I'd usually say to him when that happened, "And that is why no one wants to play games with you." Then we'd both laugh.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:41 PM (pNxlR)

Some people have peed-in Wheaties for breakfast every day.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:43 PM (NWiLs)

101 B. S.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:35 PM (HALdu)


You don't have any friends, do you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February




uh, huh, which I why I am here to share every bit of misery and depression with strangers.

sack up

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:43 PM (HALdu)

102 In my humble opinion, the BEST Mexican cuisine in
all of Arizona (I've lived here more than 40 years) is Elote Cafe in
Sedona.

Posted by: Joseph E. Shaffer at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (Qf08A)

It's pretty much a two hour wait unless you get there really early. That was my first choice, but I simply won't stand on line that long for anything other than a young Kim Basinger

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:43 PM (dLLD6)

103 Fen, if they are in their late 80's and still up and around, God Bless 'em, let 'em have the darn cake!!

Posted by: vivi at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (11H2y)

104 I was a fan of Sedona about 30 years ago. It has since gotten very popular and commercial. Yes, the Red Rocks are stunning, and there is a real extrasensory vibe to the place, but it's just too crowded now.

Norther AZ, up by Marble Canyon and Lee's Ferry are pretty in a different kind of way, and not crowded at all.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (PkVlr)

105 Hmm. And apparently they're nationwide. Here's their website:

https://insomniacookies.com/

Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (Zmx4Q)

106 Is it past 100? Good. Put a popsicle in it not so.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (Tnijr)

107 Kim Basinger on the piano?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (Rdohv)

108
I need to find a diversified source for hot sauces here in DE, or order bottles of them online. The garden variety grocery stores' cartel appear to have settled on Texas Pete varieties, Cholula varieties, and Tabasco varieties. It wasn't that way here ten years ago.

I prefer a sauce with moderate "heat" that brings other flavors along with it. Those do not cut it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:45 PM (pNxlR)

109 Is it past 100? Good. Put a popsicle in it not so.
Posted by: freaked at Februar



Yeah, the hq is supposed to be funny and lighthearted, not depressing.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:45 PM (HALdu)

110 106 Is it past 100? Good. Put a popsicle in it not so.
Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (Tnijr)

LOL

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:45 PM (NWiLs)

111 Good afternoon, Horde!

I've had two food-filled days in a row. I took my daughter's family out to lunch today, and I honestly don't think I can ever eat again.

I 'm going to stay here until something sounds appealing...

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:45 PM (TdMsT)

112 I don't seem to get to restaurants these days but always liked Mexican food, now days at home is the best I get.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZCEU2)

113 105 Hmm. And apparently they're nationwide. Here's their website:

https://insomniacookies.com/
Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (Zmx4Q)

Cool!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:46 PM (NWiLs)

114 Kim Basinger on the piano?


That was Michelle Pfeiffer.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:46 PM (gd9RK)

115

1) Yummm, tacos.

I love them all, but my all time fav are the potato cheese ones - deep fried. Heaven.

2) received a nice gift from one of my brothers last week. The Southerner's Cookbook: Recipes, Wisdom, and Stories from the Editors of Garden and Gun.

3) Played with spiralizing zucchini into noodles this week. I used both green and yellow in an asian Zucchini Noodle Salad with Tahini-Ginger Dressing
Tahini, soy sauce, rice vinegar, fresh ginger, honey, hot sauce (I used Sriracha) garlic, toasted sesame oil, broccoli, zucchini, red bell pepper, carrot scallions, toasted sesame seeds. There are many variations of this, but this one was particularly good.

4) made pot roast for the weekend. And a side of green and yellow (string) beans. Simple. Comforting. A nice baguette roll to soak up the juices. Wine.

bon appetit y'all.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 04:46 PM (vEIlU)

116 Thin sliced, corn meal crusted (with only the okra slime adhering the corn meal to it), skillet fried okra in hog lard to the point where it is nearly burnt, but not burnt, is manna from heaven.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 04:47 PM (tfrVs)

117 I love them all, but my all time fav are the potato cheese ones - deep fried. Heaven.


So...pieroges?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:47 PM (gd9RK)

118 116 Thin sliced, corn meal crusted (with only the okra slime adhering the corn meal to it), skillet fried okra in hog lard to the point where it is nearly burnt, but not burnt, is manna from heaven.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 04:47 PM (tfrVs)

As God intended.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)

119 I visited Sedona a couple of years ago and I think it was one of the few places I really don;t remember the restaurants. The scenery was spectacular and after hiking all day, didn't really care where we ate as long as it was quick and filling so I could get to bed and get up early to go hiking again. I keep trying to tell my East coast friends about the beautiful West but I think lazy beach vacations are way more popular. Maybe it's having to survive New England winters.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (QzF6i)

120 Im an el mucho bigly fan of fried okra.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (MVjcR)

121 Some people have peed-in Wheaties for breakfast every day.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 04:43
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Yeah, but aren't you s'pose to do that in someone's else Wheaties and not your own?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (Dhht7)

122

I also looked up a lot of baked goods that use vinegar.

Some people may already have noted, here, using vinegar in chocolate chip cookies (or plain ole vinegar cookies), but it can be used in so much more.

Cider or white are the top choices.

Lots of stuff out there on the web about it if you're interested. The King Flour folks (I have their huge cookie companion cookbook) have some info on it online too.

It reacts with the baking soda and lifts up the baked goods a bit more than without the vinegar. Fun stuff.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (vEIlU)

123 appear to have settled on Texas Pete varieties, Cholula varieties...
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As an aside, 'Texas Pete' is made in North Carolina.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (CDGwz)

124 Posted by: vivi at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (11H2y)

It's not a problem for me, but I'm not their daughter although age wise I could be.

It's very challenging-these health issues when you have a couple where the wife has done all the cooking and she can't now because of mobility issues (It's hard for her to stand that long) and they suddenly have to change their entire diet and he has to do the cooking. So sometimes when I go over to visit they might say "This is the breakfast crumb cake that ______just banned from our house" and they look at it sadly.
But I give them credit. They roll their eyes and try to maintain a sense of humor about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:50 PM (WI7YS)

125 When we were in Sedona I asked the housekeeping lady to recommend a lunch place. After abit of back and forth I managed to convince her that no, I didn't want to go to a tourist place but rather, somewhere she would eat.

She gave me directions - some no name hole in the wall place off the beaten path and we were the only folks there that didn't speak spanish/mexican. No menu, no nothing. They served whatever they cooked. It was terrific. The folks were terrific. I sat on a stone wall with everyone else and had a ball. I think a few beers were passed back and forth also.

Sedona's scenery is breathtaking, but the smug is overwhelming.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 04:50 PM (Y4EXg)

126 I was a fan of Sedona about 30 years ago. It has since gotten very popular and commercial. Yes, the Red Rocks are stunning, and there is a real extrasensory vibe to the place, but it's just too crowded now.

"Nobody goes there any more; its too crowded"

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 04:51 PM (arJlL)

127 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:49 PM (QzF6i)

That's fair. We found a good breakfast place, and the restaurants were...fine. But I won't be going back for the food...it will be for the hiking and scenery and the incredible stars.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:51 PM (dLLD6)

128 I like my Mexican food in the "New Mexico" style.

Around Phoenix metro that's Si Senor, New Mexican Grill, and every great once in a while, Los Dos Molinos.

For the secret mountain lair it's pretty much El Rancho in Payson. La Sierra there isn't bad, just more Old Mexico style of cooking.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at February 23, 2020 04:51 PM (xkSJa)

129 Hot sauce: How about you? Any regional favorites?

In So. Cal. I prefer Pico Pica hot sauce. It is a little thicker than many and while it has heat it also has flavor. Most grocery stores carry it. I've grown up eating hot sauce and I really dislike hot-for-the-sake-of-hot sauces.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 04:52 PM (aS1PU)

130 I used to shoot in a big match north of Phoenix every year and always left a day at the end of the trip to drive up to and around Sedona.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:52 PM (MVjcR)

131 So...pieroges?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:47 PM (gd9RK)


not even close

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 04:52 PM (vEIlU)

132 Krebs, there is -- or used to be, when we were still there -- a place called Peppers or similar in the Rehoboth Beach outlets. Since we left five years ago, dunno if it's still there, but they let you sample various sauces. It's where Mr. Empire fell in love with Dave's Insanity Sauce.

Be warned, though ... he eats habaneros raw, and isn't too cautious about ghost or Scotch Bonnet peppers, where I am VERY cautious! I like them, but in very small quantities.

Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 04:52 PM (Zmx4Q)

133 No menu, no nothing. They served whatever they cooked


I've dreamed of running a place like that. I had that dream for years before I learned that Italians have a word for it, trattoria.

You show up because you like my cooking. Tonight it's pork chops and sauerkraut. So maybe you come back tomorrow, but there are enough people to keep a Banderia running.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:53 PM (gd9RK)

134 Thin sliced, corn meal crusted (with only the okra slime adhering the corn meal to it), skillet fried okra in hog lard to the point where it is nearly burnt, but not burnt, is manna from heaven.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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That would be because it is no longer what it was. You could prepare almost *anything* that way and it would be edible. Carp skin would be tasty prepared thusly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 04:53 PM (CDGwz)

135 It's pronounced "tay-kohs", don't ya know.

Posted by: North Dukotah at February 23, 2020 04:53 PM (K+wVX)

136 there are enough people to keep a Banderia running.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 04:53 PM (gd9RK)

Do the customers have to tend their own fires?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (dLLD6)

137 126 I was a fan of Sedona about 30 years ago. It has since gotten very popular and commercial. Yes, the Red Rocks are stunning, and there is a real extrasensory vibe to the place, but it's just too crowded now.

"Nobody goes there any more; its too crowded"
Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 04:51 PM (arJlL)


I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (TdMsT)

138 That would be because it is no longer what it was. You could prepare almost *anything* that way and it would be edible. Carp skin would be tasty prepared thusly.

....

I would ordinarily agree, but I submit to you this:

Kale.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (tfrVs)

139
I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...
Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (TdMsT)
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I'm telling.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

140 I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...
Posted by: Ladyl

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Oh no! THAT'S the disturbance in the force!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (Y4EXg)

141 I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...
Posted by: Ladyl

I won't tell anyone.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (arJlL)

142 Smoked my first pork belly last week. I McGoogled how to do it, but there's some weird stuff out there. So, I pretended it was a brisket- except using cherry and hickory.

It was damn good. And, cheap, too: 3.5 lbs less than $15 buckazoids.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (SFPPt)

143

3) Played with spiralizing zucchini into noodles this week. I used both green and yellow in an asian Zucchini Noodle Salad with Tahini-Ginger Dressing
How do you keep the noodles from getting mushy. Have never had any luck doing that.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (QzF6i)

144 Yeah, the hq is supposed to be funny and lighthearted, not depressing.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:45
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I found Krebs post uplifting. Sharing food with in-laws and boosting his FiL's spirits. Not depressing at all.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (Dhht7)

145 I used to make yogurt by heating it and wrapping it in a down sleeping bag. But I can't be around down any more. This is a nice little container. And I always wanted a hay box, which was the original thermal cooker. I'll see if this works out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 23, 2020 04:56 PM (Lqy/e)

146 144 Yeah, the hq is supposed to be funny and lighthearted, not depressing.

Posted by: not so

you're new around here, huh

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:56 PM (PkVlr)

147 >>>[122]I also looked up a lot of baked goods that use vinegar. It reacts with the baking soda and lifts up the baked goods a bit more than without the vinegar. Fun stuff.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 04:49PM

I use a cousin's pie crust recipe that calls for a tablespoon of vinegar (the taste is undetectable after baking).

Posted by: Kathy at February 23, 2020 04:56 PM (qv3wo)

148 I was gonna make mom and dads New Mexico flat red enchiladas tonight. I will wait until Wed. Decided I should give up pork for Lent. I love everything pork. Pork for 48 hrs. Then no pork until Easter.

May even take a cleansing trip to Ouray Hot Springs.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 04:56 PM (MTxDQ)

149 You salt the veggie noodles and let sit about a half hour. Rinse the salt off then cook

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 23, 2020 04:57 PM (Lqy/e)

150 I saw in the supermarket something I had never seen before in the meat section-pork belly bacon. I get that it's from a different part of the pig, but is there a difference in taste from regular bacon?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:57 PM (WI7YS)

151
Northern AZ, up by Marble Canyon and Lee's Ferry are pretty in a different kind of way, and not crowded at all.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 04:44 PM (PkVlr)


About nine miles SW of Marble Canyon, AZ on route US-89A is Cliff Dwellers Lodge, at which we stayed on two different evenings twenty years ago when we visited both rims of the Grand Canyon ( I preferred the North Rim, myself). At that time it had NO in-room phones and NO television reception whatsoever. I took no small delight in revealing those facts to our two teenage kids as we were about to set out for it after dinner for our first night's stay -- they were appalled.

There's a restaurant there, too, run by the same outfit, but the menu was pedestrian. What was spectacular and well worth seeing were the night skies: clear and far reaching views in all directions save to the north (cliffs, duh).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (pNxlR)

152
I would ordinarily agree, but I submit to you this:

Kale.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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I think they sell Kale chips. A shot at the same technique, to make palatable the unpalatable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (CDGwz)

153 I was gonna make mom and dads New Mexico flat red enchiladas tonight.

If it was green I'd consider making the drive. I'd get fired for missing work if I did it, but I'd consider it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (xkSJa)

154 Sedona is nothing, I have half the rocks and sea glass of Maine in and outside my house.

I'm going to be eating lobster daily in a few months.

I think I'm getting my appetite back!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (TdMsT)

155 Played with spiralizing zucchini into noodles this week. I used both green and yellow in an asian Zucchini Noodle Salad with Tahini-Ginger Dressing
How do you keep the noodles from getting mushy. Have never had any luck doing that.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:55 PM (QzF6i)


Buy them fresh and do them fairly quickly after you buy them. I have never had a problem with that.

I have the attachment to my mixer, but they have some decent ones you can anchor to your counter - but you have to buy the good quality, heavier brand.

Last resort use a sharp peeler, but use the ones shaped like a T, not the straight ones. I have done it this way and made "ribbons" like fettucine instead of spaghetti shaped.

Mine were very sturdy. I re-heated leftovers for lunch by quickly flashing them in a hot pan. They still held their texture.

I don't use the seed section. Maybe that is what is giving you trouble? I spiral until the seed core, which I toss. It's more sour.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 04:59 PM (vEIlU)

156 Amusing British recipe items: rashers (streaky bacon) and sultanas (golden raisins).

Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2020 04:59 PM (bDqIh)

157 I sure hope my elk meatballs turn out good...I worry I overworked them since I had forgotten the egg and had to reincorporate and shape everything again.

Posted by: Taylork at February 23, 2020 04:59 PM (+AUVB)

158 My son likes I new thing from the supermarket. They are like nachochips but made with ghost pepper. They are really hot-too hot for me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:59 PM (WI7YS)

159 I have a spiralizer. Do you cook them?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 05:00 PM (QzF6i)

160 Used to be an old Mexican woman that sold awesome tamales out of the back of a gas station near here for 50 cents each. She has a little stand in the grocery store now and gets $2.50 each now, with a less meat in them. She learned the American way well.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:00 PM (K22Va)

161 My son likes I new thing from the supermarket. They are like nachochips
but made with ghost pepper. They are really hot-too hot for me.


Dust from those chips is considered a chemical weapon.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan at February 23, 2020 05:01 PM (xkSJa)

162
I think they sell Kale chips. A shot at the same technique, to make palatable the unpalatable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (CDGwz)


Kale is one of the initial steps in the Left's march to misery.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (TdMsT)

163 Krebs,


I've stayed there too!

The stars were magnificent. We sat outside our little room and drank a couple of cheap but very cold beers and watched the sun set behind us.

Went over to Monument Valley afterwards and stayed at the View Hotel. Very expensive, like 300 plus bucks per night, but the rooms all have an unobstructed view of the valley. We brought a cooler with us (it's dry) and sat on the deck for about 7 hours. It was amazing, and well worth the expense

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (PkVlr)

164
Been on the low carb keto thing since after Thanskgiving and have lost close to 15 pounds. A go-to recipe is an oven-baked fajita.

Sautee a whole lot of onions, red and green peppers with spices of your choice (I use spicy paprika and chipotle chilis) until half cooked. Then bury some slices of boneless skinless breasteses of chicken underneath them, and bake in the oven at 350 for about 2025 minutes.

Yum.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

165 It's very challenging-these health issues when you have a couple where the wife has done all the cooking and she can't now because of mobility issues (It's hard for her to stand that long)

That's why my wife is teaching me how to cook. She has mobility issues and can't stand long enough to cook most of the time. Before I go out of town for work again, I'm going to make her up a bunch of meals that she can just reheat in the microwave. A big pot of chili, big bowl of Shepard's Pie, some Spaghetti and a pork shoulder for pulled pork. We have a bunch of microwavable bowls with lids that can go from freezer to microwave.

In the meantime, she'll be complaining about me "Living the life of Rielly" because I'll be eating out all the time...and I don't do fast food as a rule, so its usually sit down restaurant or grills.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (J9I4C)

166 I get that it's from a different part of the pig, but is there a difference in taste from regular bacon?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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Is it uncured? If so, yes - it will be a bit different in taste.

In other sad news - After I sold the last piece of the family farm, I took my final walkaround. Stuck my head into every nook and cranny of the place as I wouldn't be back.

The smokehouse had lost the hickory smell. It took 40 years of non-use but - all gone. Sad.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Y4EXg)

167 Tonight, I grilled the chicken from a Thai chicken recipe and baked some veggies with a recipe for an Asian chicken recipe. It's excellent.

Thai Chicken Tacos https://tinyurl.com/t2trrgc
Sheet Pan Sesame Chicken https://tinyurl.com/t252rsh

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (MmFTx)

168 ...2025 minutes.

Yum.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

That's 20 to 25 minutes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 23, 2020 05:04 PM (zBaqJ)

169 Almost all the "Mexican Restaurants" you see in the US are what is called 'Tex Mex", not true Mexican dishes. However back when I used to live in Castro Valley, CA we used to go over to Hayward and hit some places that were true Mexican. In fact, the menus were in Spanish and the waiters spoke Spanish. The food was OK, but I have gotten so used to "Tex Mex" that I prefer it. It helps that my wife is from Texas.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

170 Kale is one of the initial steps in the Left's march to misery.
Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (TdMsT)

You'd think a gateway drug would be more tempting.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 05:04 PM (NWiLs)

171 I get that it's from a different part of the pig, but is there a difference in taste from regular bacon?

Good question. Bacon is from the pork belly but pork belly bacon's not necessarily cured and/or smoked like regular bacon.

In fact, Mike Symon called his braised pork belly "fresh bacon" to get people to try it and eat it...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 05:05 PM (7s3Gx)

172 Dust from those chips is considered a chemical weapon.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan

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Plan any bathroom trips carefully after touching the chips.

Especially you ettes. Just say'n.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 05:05 PM (Y4EXg)

173 Leftover pizza tonight. WeaselDog will be happy!

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 05:05 PM (MVjcR)

174 Is it uncured? If so, yes - it will be a bit different in taste.

Or not smoked like pancetta.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (K22Va)

175 172 Dust from those chips is considered a chemical weapon.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan

----

Plan any bathroom trips carefully after touching the chips.

Especially you ettes. Just say'n.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 05:05 PM (Y4EXg)

This is not the spicy taco you want...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (NWiLs)

176 Kale is one of the initial steps in the Left's march to misery.

Posted by: Ladyl


Kale is a gateway food to Brussels Sprouts. Just say no.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (T6t7i)

177 I think you are supposed to follow a hot recipe like that with ice cream. Only you don't eat it, you just sit on a gallon of it.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (MmFTx)

178 .2025 minutes.

Yum.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

That's 20 to 25 minutes.



In the minute twenty-five twenty-five, if Sefton's quesadilla's still alive...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (gd9RK)

179 Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (J9I4C)

Even though he's not used to it, I think he's rather pleased with the fact that he is learning to do this. He's always been good with his hands (and cooking is a hands on thing, obviously) and he can help out his wife, so good for you too. Much better to eat home made stuff than frozen things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 05:07 PM (WI7YS)

180
I decided after last weekend's camping trip that the "spice kit" container that we take on our troop's monthly camping trips needs an owner and active management by one of our scouts. It's overloaded with some items -- chili powder, for example -- and devoid of others one would expect -- cinnamon, for example.

The principles and actions of leavening agents are something that I'll personally resurrect my chemistry and baking background to explain to them, too. That, and the concept of "al dente" as applied to pasta.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 05:07 PM (pNxlR)

181 I like Cholula hot sauce much better than Tabasco.. Tabasco is way too vinegary for me.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 23, 2020 05:08 PM (CjFDo)

182 We are going to Arizona for spring training in about 3 weeks (yay!) and then Grand Canyon so this discussion is very timely. We were thinking about spending one night in Sedona, but by an odd series of events we wound up staying in funkier Jerome instead. Sounds like we made the right choice.

Staying near the airport for one night on the way back, so we may have to check out Cocina Madrigal.

I have some leftover pot roast and veggies converted into beef pot pie in the oven now. Smells great; I hope it measures up.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 23, 2020 05:08 PM (fTtFy)

183 I have a spiralizer. Do you cook them?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 05:00 PM (QzF6i)


both, this was a salad, so not in this case.

Here is a link that might help:

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/guides/paleo/spiralizing-101/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 05:08 PM (vEIlU)

184 Much better to eat home made stuff than frozen things.

So I shouldn't try things dug up from the Siberian permafrost?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan at February 23, 2020 05:09 PM (xkSJa)

185
Kale is a gateway food to Brussels Sprouts. Just say no.
Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 05:06 PM (T6t7i)


IMHO Brussels sprouts are horrific UNLESS

they are sautéed in a cast iron skillet in bacon grease and garlic over an open campfire, the way my son-in-law prepares them. OMG.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:09 PM (TdMsT)

186 Kale is one of the initial steps in the Left's march to misery. Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (TdMsT)

I don't like fresh kale. I do like home made kale chips which I sometimes make at home in the oven.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 05:09 PM (WI7YS)

187 I make bacon from pork shoulders to keep in the freezer. A lot less fat than belly meat.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:10 PM (K22Va)

188 That, and the concept of "al dente" as applied to pasta.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars

Why al dente ?

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 05:10 PM (arJlL)

189 So I shouldn't try things dug up from the Siberian permafrost?



I would so totally eat thawed out mastadon.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 05:10 PM (gd9RK)

190 "but made with ghost pepper. They are really hot-too hot for me.

Dust from those chips is considered a chemical weapon."


reminds me of when I boiled several Carolina Reapers.


And then hit the very hot peppers with an immersion blender.

Vapors damn near Killed Mrs VIA, three rooms away.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:11 PM (tT0V4)

191 I would so totally eat thawed out mastadon.

Mastodon munchies. You can bake it, fry it, broil it, grill it...

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan at February 23, 2020 05:12 PM (xkSJa)

192
reminds me of when I boiled several Carolina Reapers.





And then hit the very hot peppers with an immersion blender.



Vapors damn near Killed Mrs VIA, three rooms away.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


aka Mace.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 05:13 PM (T6t7i)

193 I baked brownies from a mix today.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 23, 2020 05:13 PM (COzlW)

194 I would so totally eat thawed out mastadon.

Posted by: Bandersnatch


Fresh is better.

Posted by: F. Flintstone at February 23, 2020 05:13 PM (T6t7i)

195 Good Lord, VIA, that would have killed me. I accidentally gassed myself with a jalapeno under warm water. I sure couldn't handle a ghost pepper.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:13 PM (MmFTx)

196 I don't mind kale and I like Brussels sprouts so drum me out of the Horde

I like meat better.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:14 PM (xj+jQ)

197 Fen, those ghost pepper chips? Mr. Empire loves 'em -- I avoid them like the plague!

Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 05:14 PM (Zmx4Q)

198 I know, I am blaspheming totally here, especially being from TX, but I love the Doritos shell tacos from Taco Bell. That was a bloody stroke of genius. It's a guilty pleasure. Judge away.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:14 PM (kFLDt)

199 53 I like spicy food, but the hottest thing which I have ever eaten was when I was in my mid twenties. It was some Thai vegetable. (I was a vegetarian at the time) It burned my mouth. I don't recall when happened at the other end The owners of the restaurant (it was new) must not have acclimated to the food tastes of many Americans yet.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:27 PM (WI7YS)


Here's a guess: som tam, shredded green papaya. It's a cold dish, white and crunchy, and it's excellent. But yeah, it can be incredibly hot, with virtually no visual warning.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2020 05:15 PM (dOV9E)

200 I baked brownies from a mix today.

I'll just leave a plate under my USB port, you know what to do.

BBL, all this stuff isn't going to move itself to the mountains.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Green Chili fan at February 23, 2020 05:15 PM (xkSJa)

201 Hey everybody.

CBD, once again you read my mind. I tuned in while eating my lunch... four Jack-In-The-Box tacos.

Those things are made of voodoo, I think. Good grief they're addictive.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:15 PM (L2ZTs)

202 Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 05:14 PM (Zmx4Q)

My husband won't eat them. Just son. I don't think they've been around all that long.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (WI7YS)

203 Catch Thirty-Thr33, you can buy them in the grocery store. Old El Paso makes 'em. I buy it for my kids.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (MmFTx)

204 Brussel sprouts are the Barack Obama of vegetables, many hate them, but there are many that will sing their praises.

Kale, on the other hand, is the Adolph Hitler of vegetables. Only a handful of cult-like supporters approve.

I'm not sure what Trump is. Maybe peanuts, because he sends a number of individuals into allergic convulsions.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (tfrVs)

205 My favorite taproom has a spicy IPA. I like spicy and IPA so it works for me. It might not work for anyone else.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (xj+jQ)

206 Art Rondelet,

Jerome is a really fun little town! I'm glad you stumbled upon it. Did you also go through Nowhere?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (PkVlr)

207 Chinese lettuce wrap dishes, generally a finely-chopped warm stir-fry in a cold, crunchy iceberg lettuce cup, can be absolutely fantastic. I've had great ones with seafood, duck, and pigeon (aka squab).

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (dOV9E)

208 " I sure couldn't handle a ghost pepper."


And Carolina Reapers are an order of magnitude hotter than ghost peppers.

I wanted to make a liquid to spray on the garden to repel tree rats.

The liquid didn't phase them a bit.

And to segue from cooking to gardening thread, that pepper plant will be traveling to South Carolina with us in its own pot. Getting planted in the back yard. It will be four years old this spring, and still puts out tons of peppers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (tT0V4)

209 On my bucket list: a weekend in New Iberia, LA for a tour of the Tabasco factory. I also plan to eat at least three meals at their restaurant.

I'll have to wear Depends the whole way home, but it'll be worth it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (L2ZTs)

210 qdpsteve, that's hangover prevention at 0300 food...or so I have heard.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (MmFTx)

211 I get nothing from it but to show off my work that the Williams Sonoma in King of Prussia opens tomorrow. Use to hit that store for gifts every Christmas years ago. They do carry lots of nice kitchen tools.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (ZCEU2)

212 Sedona is indeed beautiful and bar dining solo is spectacular there when running away from visiting family.

Posted by: Summer of Love at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (FJrl0)

213 Eating stuff in lettuce leaves is very Korean. I stacted planting lettuce for that very thing. We do chicken and rice, pickled daikon on and various sauces.

It is a good backyard meal for late spring

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (g1G5z)

214 I made a banana bread with walnuts and dates. So It was actually a banana date nut bread.It freezes really well and when I want a piece, just take it out of the freezer, slice with a sharp knife and pop into t he toaster. Great when I get bored with eggs for breakfast.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (QzF6i)

215 Brussel Sprouts ain't bad. Kinda like eating miniature cabbages. Add some garlic and pistachios, slice the sprouts in half and saute them.

Kale on the other hand, I wouldn't feed that to my pig, if I had one.

I think one of the 'rons had the best recipe for Kale...boil it up, then throw it on the compost pile.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (J9I4C)

216 205 My favorite taproom has a spicy IPA. I like spicy and IPA so it works for me. It might not work for anyone else.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (xj+jQ)


Yikes. I first read this as "tampon," rather than "taproom."

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:18 PM (TdMsT)

217 I'm not sure what Trump is. Maybe peanuts, because he sends a number of individuals into allergic convulsions.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 05:16 PM (tfrVs)

I like peanuts too. I can't actually think of any foods I hate. I'm not crazy about green beans.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:18 PM (xj+jQ)

218 I took my kiddos on a tour of Avery Island a couple of summers ago. It's a great time. My great-grandmother was a maid in the family house at one time.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 05:19 PM (MmFTx)

219 Probably healthier with the lettuce, hey? I had a ham/cheese omelet and tomato soup for supper and now off to church. Be back later to talk gubs and watch TWD.

Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2020 05:19 PM (UUkQp)

220 I like peanuts too. I can't actually think of any foods I hate. I'm not crazy about green beans.

Posted by: Northernlurker


I can't stand olives of any color, which is odd because olive oil is fine.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 05:19 PM (T6t7i)

221 "I get nothing from it but to show off my work that the Williams Sonoma in King of Prussia opens tomorrow"

How far are you from Cristiana Mall in Delaware, right off of I-95?

Great W&S, with no sales tax.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:19 PM (tT0V4)

222

This link, below, was fun. I was looking for a specific White "Velvet" Cake my sister made recently, and ran across this, from Southern Living.

https://tinyurl.com/qst2f46

I did find the cake I was looking for, here:

Winter White Velvet Cake
With coconut and nuts


From Carolina Country (she found it in a magazine)

https://tinyurl.com/ul5rx2p

It's loaded!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 05:20 PM (vEIlU)

223 I love spicy food. I go through 12 oz bottles of Tabasco fairly quickly. What's funny is that I was raised by a native German who you would think would ensure I had a bland diet, but oh no. Once she got to Texas before meeting the man who would in due course be my father, she took to spices, and went overboard even more than I do.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:20 PM (kFLDt)

224
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2020 05:20 PM (shkju)

225 I talk a lot about moving to Nevada or Arizona...

but, one thing that was complete culture shock to me, just visiting Bullhead City a few times: outside of Taco Bell, maybe Del Taco and maybe Chipotle (which I can't stand), they have NO major Mexican food restaurant chains out there. No El Torito, no Acapulco. Nothin'.

I have tried this place and it was good, but something of an exotic experience for me:

http://epfamilyrestaurants.com/

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:21 PM (L2ZTs)

226 Being the husband I am, I have spent a large portion of my afternoon cooking assorted meat products for my bride, who is a week into a keto diet.

Some might say I am whipped *whip-crack noise*

I do it because:

a) wasn't doin' nothin' anyway, aside from watching Rifftrax.

b) I love my girl, and want her to be happy and healthy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:21 PM (x8Wzq)

227 no good deed, I've heard that too. I know JITB specializes in being open during ungodly hours.

Never had one of their tacos drunk though.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:22 PM (L2ZTs)

228 And to segue from cooking to gardening thread, that pepper plant will be traveling to South Carolina with us in its own pot. Getting planted in the back yard. It will be four years old this spring, and still puts out tons of peppers.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:17 PM (tT0V4)


Where in SC VIA? We live in the upstate about 40 miles west of Greenville.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:22 PM (J9I4C)

229 I know, I am blaspheming totally here, especially being from TX, but I love the Doritos shell tacos from Taco Bell.

Oh Lordy. The Cool Ranch ones are the *best*!

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 05:22 PM (7s3Gx)

230 Gabby, I love those too!
But, they give me actual heartburn, and I don't usually ever get heartburn. The "Spicy" version is even worse on my chest. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:23 PM (L2ZTs)

231 "Where in SC VIA? "

Summerville.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:23 PM (tT0V4)

232 Catch 33, I once asked someone who lived in Texas, where the best place is there to get chili.

They answered, "Wendy's."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:24 PM (L2ZTs)

233 Here is a link that might help:



https://www.americastestkitchen.com/guides/paleo/spiralizing-101/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2020 05:08 PM (vEIlU)

+++++Just checked out the link and after going through all the ways I ruined them, they recommended roasting them. I would never have thought about doing it that way. Article says it makes the best pasta type noodle. Going to have to find where put the spiralizer but going to have to try it. Have the perfect friend to try it out on. She served red lentil pasta last time she cooked for me and I was not thrilled.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 05:24 PM (QzF6i)

234 >>>>>Thanks; I always get nervous when I see "pastor" on the menu.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (WI7YS)



Try a little Priest?

Posted by: Sweeny Todd at February 23, 2020 05:24 PM (g1G5z)

235 The "Spicy" version is even worse on my chest. :-)

I put Tabasco brand habanero on them...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 05:24 PM (7s3Gx)

236 Gabby, LOL. You are apparently made of a stronger constitution than I am any more.

I do love the Tabasco Habanero sauce. It's my fave of their sauces outside of the original, although I also just rediscovered their Cayenne Garlic sauce, which is great on Popeye's chicken.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:25 PM (L2ZTs)

237 thnx CBD

Posted by: trapper's girl at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (Kue/z)

238 Also, I just came from the supermarket. Red Hot now has a 'thick' sauce, and a buffalo ranch sauce.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (L2ZTs)

239 209
On my bucket list: a weekend in New Iberia, LA for a tour of the Tabasco
factory. I also plan to eat at least three meals at their restaurant.

I'd like to visit myself. I saw something on tv about it one time. The peppers they use are proprietary and they age it in barrels, iirc.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (K22Va)

240 Where in SC VIA? "

Summerville.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:23 PM (tT0V4)


Cool...right outside of Charleston. That's where my next job is. I'll be there for about 5 or 6 weeks, unless something changes between now and then.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (J9I4C)

241 Tabasco also just came out with their own version of Sriracha sauce. Haven't tried it yet.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

242 Sheesh, I go run errands and my peanut butter photo shows up.


It's Kraft Light Peanut Butter, and yes, it's the better part of a decade old, unopened. When I visit America's Hat I usually bring back a jar or two, but this one somehow got neglected.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 05:27 PM (nRNOc)

243 dartist, if you can wait 'til 2021, maybe we can coordinate our visits and meet up. :-)
Let me know. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

244 Pug, that is pure love. Blessings on you!

Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 05:27 PM (Zmx4Q)

245 Yeah, I have always held that if a business signals strongly enough that they would prefer I went elsewhere, I will respect their wishes.

Mrs. Eez has been doing that taco-in-lettuce thing for years, excellent way of doing it !

That peanut butter cookie recipe seems close to the one in the Moron Cookbook; from Tonypete as I recall, and insofar as my limited menu-French allows, though I don't see oatmeal in the ingredients, or the rice krispies I typically use ... I usually make a couple-three hundred of them every year at Christmas to hand out by the paper-platefull to all and sundry ... quite a few go to Amish families we buy produce from during the growing season.

My incredibly whitebread upbringing has left me hotsauce-impaired, I am afraid; Mrs Eez is more adventurous.
One year she made a batch that was just terrifying, neither of us could deal with it - I took a couple of jars to work and gave them to a cast-iron-lined cow-orker, the bleepard ate a half-pint of it with a spoon and pronounced it "mild". Jeebus.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 23, 2020 05:28 PM (zlgJP)

246 Try a little Priest?


A priest is a bludgeon with which to humanely dispatch fish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 05:28 PM (gd9RK)

247 VIA its a hour at least but we did the womens beauty shop there maybe 3 years ago. Hated that drive.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 05:29 PM (ZCEU2)

248 Peanuts are delicious.

I pretty much like peanuts in anything. Chopped up on Thai food. Straight out of the shell. Peanut butter cookies (real or Nutter Butter). Sammiches with strawberry jelly. Reese's cups. Tag-a-longs.

The other day I stopped and got little some candy at a place where they still do the penny candy thing and I got her those old school Chick-o-sticks, the old school peanut butter bars that have those really crispy layers in them, and some Mary Jane's.

Alas I could eat none of them, because I'm on a diet and my life sucks.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 05:29 PM (tfrVs)

249 Tabasco also just came out with their own version of Sriracha sauce. Haven't tried it yet.

I recommend it. It, of course, has the Tabasco undertone but a nice not too hot overall flavor.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 05:30 PM (7s3Gx)

250 243
dartist, if you can wait 'til 2021, maybe we can coordinate our visits and meet up. :-)

That might be fun, God willing and the creek don't rise!

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:30 PM (K22Va)

251 "I'll be there for about 5 or 6 weeks, unless something changes between now and then."

Cool.

Reach out through the NoVaMoMe link to either weasel or Bluebell, via e-mail, and ask them to forward your e-mail to me.

Perhaps the house will be put together enough to entertain and have guests by then.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:30 PM (tT0V4)

252 Also, Arrogant Bastard now has a hot sauce.

CBD: I will look for that Mexi restaurant someday when I'm passing through Sedona, which I very much want to visit as it's one spot in Arizona I think I wouldn't mind living in someday. Thanks for the review.

And finally, re the stories of hot stuff on the way out: I consider myself very fortunate in that regard. I guess my body does a good job of sopping up the really spicy stuff, because although I've eaten some extremely spicy dishes, I've never had anything feel uncomfortable on the way out. Warm, yes, but always comfortably so.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)

253
Okay, so here's The Best Hot Sauce in the Entire Universe.

Say, "Thank you, naturalfake." You might as well get that out of the way cuz you're gonna want to thank me after you try it.

It's called....

Marie Sharp "Smokin' Marie Sauce"

It's a sauce from Belize that made from smoked habanero peppers and a few other things.

Hot but not too hot and balanced by a wonderful smokey taste and smell.

Just great stuff. Makes everything better.

Buy it now.

Now!

You don't even have to fly to Belize. It's available on Amazon.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 05:31 PM (z0XD8)

254 About nine miles SW of Marble Canyon, AZ on route US-89A is Cliff Dwellers Lodge, at which we stayed on two different evenings twenty years ago when we visited both rims of the Grand Canyon ( I preferred the North Rim, myself). At that time it had NO in-room phones and NO television reception whatsoever. I took no small delight in revealing those facts to our two teenage kids as we were about to set out for it after dinner for our first night's stay -- they were appalled.

There's a restaurant there, too, run by the same outfit, but the menu was pedestrian. What was spectacular and well worth seeing were the night skies: clear and far reaching views in all directions save to the north (cliffs, duh).
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 04:58 PM (pNxlR)
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Been there! Actually, we had breakfast at the restaurant and did not spend the night. We were on a scouting trip to Kanab. And the food was pedestrian. Edible and pricey but nothing special. But the cliffs there (the Vermillion Cliffs) are stunning and I can imagine the night skies are wonderfully clear, as most of them are in this part of the world.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 05:31 PM (WFcrO)

255 CBD, did you happen to go by the Sedona Divine Oil Co? They have a copy of TDG.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:32 PM (h4GWf)

256 Gabby, sounds like I'd like it then. Thanks!

And I know some people don't like Tabasco. I'd bet it's at least partially because they've only had it stale. It does seem to weaken a bit after a month or so.

My recommendation, try some right out of a fresh-brewed bottle. It definitely at least seems thicker and more flavorful at that time. You might still not be crazy about it but it's the best way to try it IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (L2ZTs)

257 247 Ulta was the name of that store, had to look it up.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (ZCEU2)

258 Reach out through the NoVaMoMe link to either weasel or Bluebell, via e-mail, and ask them to forward your e-mail to me.

Perhaps the house will be put together enough to entertain and have guests by then.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:30 PM (tT0V4)


Sounds good, although just meeting up at a local watering hole for a drink or three and dinner would be good too.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (J9I4C)

259 naturalfake, I'll look for that. Thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (L2ZTs)

260 Been there! Actually, we had breakfast at the restaurant and did not spend the night. We were on a scouting trip to Kanab. And the food was pedestrian. Edible and pricey but nothing special. But the cliffs there (the Vermillion Cliffs) are stunning and I can imagine the night skies are wonderfully clear, as most of them are in this part of the world.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 05:31 PM (WFcrO)


Arizona is amazing. There are many different areas that have their own uniqueness and beauty.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (aS1PU)

261 Kale is a gateway to crabgrass.

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 05:34 PM (RuIsu)

262 Beef pot pie came out great. Had to make the crust myself because no prepared crusts in the house. I'm actually good at it, but don't usually do it because lazy.

FWIW, CBD I remember you said that pastry was a challenge for you. It was for me too for a long time. My mom used a pastry cutter for the shortening. Tried that, also cutting in with knives. Finally tried fingers, which I figured would overwork the pastry, but that turned out to be the trick. YMMV.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 23, 2020 05:34 PM (fTtFy)

263 I have a small bottle of some super hot stuff.
Many years ago we had a couple of nitwits over. I broke this fire out for them. I warned them this stuff was crazy stupid, hot but they ignored me.
And then they started rubbing their eyes. I was picturing blindness and law suits.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:35 PM (xj+jQ)

264 "Sounds good, although just meeting up at a local watering hole for a drink or three and dinner would be good too."

That works too!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:35 PM (tT0V4)

265 Another thing I like about Tabasco is they have a lot lower sodium than other sauces. Good for old bastards with clogged arteries like me.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:35 PM (K22Va)

266 Skip, Ulta is the name of a big-time chain of makeup places in my area. Lots of locations. Considered rather high-end, but not as much as Sephora.

I once spoke to my 14-year-old niece about those places. Sure, she loves treating herself from time to time, but she's told me that for the price of one lipstick at Sephora or Ulta, she can buy a full table full of cosmetics at Walmart.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

267 That peanut butter cookie recipe seems close to
the one in the Moron Cookbook; from Tonypete as I recall, and insofar as
my limited menu-French allows, though I don't see oatmeal in the
ingredients, or the rice krispies I typically use ... I usually make a
couple-three hundred of them every year at Christmas to hand out by the
paper-platefull to all and sundry ... quite a few go to Amish families
we buy produce from during the growing season.


Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 23, 2020 05:28 PM (zlgJP)

The photo has the French instructions because that's the side the expiration date is on (gotta have English and French on everything). If you want the English version I still have the jar and can type it out.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 05:36 PM (nRNOc)

268 dartist, yup. I love the simplicity of the recipe too. Red pepper, vinegar, salt. That's it.

Northernlurker, the first time I tried Dave's Insanity Hot Sauce I got myself in big trouble because I didn't take it seriously and put a sizable gob on whatever it was I was eating that night. I had a surprise, oh boy. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:37 PM (L2ZTs)

269 I recently tried "Hot Sauce from Hell Devil's Revenge".

Too hot. Made me sweat after the second bite and burned going in and going out.

Pro Tip: Have an ice cube on stand by while on the thunder bucket and a little rub up and down on the burning area works wonders.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM (Z+IKu)

270 When traveling around Southern California, I couldn't understand why the chain Mexican restaurants survive. but they do.

Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM (sUl9n)

271 Yellowbird sauces made in Austin are excellent, and have received rave reviews from those I've shared them with.

Cartel Coffee in PDX (Concourse B, IIRC) is excellent. Maximo bueno!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM (DMUuz)

272 When I am in Canada, I like to try out different things that are available in the United States solely to detect the subtle differences between what is available in both countries. My favorite example: Kit Kats. I love them. Judge away. But anyways, there is a difference between the American ones, made under a license by Hershey, and the Nestle made ones available in Canada.

(I still think it is quite funny that in a country that has the metric system, you can order a 6 inch sandwich from Subway. Not a 15 cm sandwich; a 6 inch. Canadians, especially those my age and younger [given their switch to metric on 30 Sep 1977] do not know WTF "6 inches" is. Sort of like how the French do not know WTF a quarter pound is.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM (kFLDt)

273 Dave's? Yeah, that would do it.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 23, 2020 05:39 PM (7s3Gx)

274 Chick-o-sticks, the old school peanut butter bars that have those really crispy layers in them...

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 05:29
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Loved Chick-o-sticks. Prolly couldn't eat them today either, BC. Would yank my crowns out.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 05:39 PM (Dhht7)

275 Colin, IMHO El Torito and Acapulco are good quality. No, not the most authentic, and I'm sure there are family-owned places that make everything there better, but I'd say you get your money's worth.

Also I admit I love the free salsa and chips at both places. :-) I could pull a Bernie Sanders and make a meal just out of them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:39 PM (L2ZTs)

276 "Sort of like how the French do not know WTF a quarter pound is.)"

A Royale?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:39 PM (tT0V4)

277 Pro Tip: Have an ice cube on stand by while on the thunder bucket and a little rub up and down on the burning area works wonders.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM

Right hand or left hand?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:40 PM (xj+jQ)

278 Actually, reading the French instructions in the photo, it's 1 cup of the peanut butter, half a cup of sugar, and 1 egg.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 05:40 PM (nRNOc)

279 240 Where in SC VIA? "

Summerville.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:23 PM (tT0V4)

Cool...right outside of Charleston. That's where my next job is. I'll be there for about 5 or 6 weeks, unless something changes between now and then.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (J9I4C)

I got family out that way. It's a nice area.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:40 PM (kFLDt)

280 olddog, what's cookin?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:40 PM (h4GWf)

281 Pro Tip: Have an ice cube on stand by while on the thunder bucket and a little rub up and down on the burning area works wonders.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 05:38 PM


That's an Office Of The President-Elect level Tip!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 23, 2020 05:41 PM (DMUuz)

282 ...used to be a small restaurant down the street from work on Industrial Blvd.; it was an industrial section and you could go in early to pick up some grease to help coat your stomach from last nights bad chaser... It was called "Las Lupes" I think, but was known everywhere as "Lost Puppies"!
--- Lord, stay away from the chorizo sausage! (Egg breakfast tacos were hard to mess up)

Posted by: LaRro at February 23, 2020 05:41 PM (10GNe)

283 Some people are just fugbuckin nuts about the heat. I don't understand it.

I know of at least one hot sauce shop that actually sells capsaicin PILLS hotter than anything on earth. Millions of Scoville units. So many in fact, you have to sign a waiver before they'll sell them to you. My only question is, why???

I know that too much capsaicin at once can actually cause brain damage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:41 PM (L2ZTs)

284 Right hand or left hand?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:40 PM


Don't be like ace. Know your threads.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2020 05:42 PM (DMUuz)

285 Some people are just fugbuckin nuts about the heat. I don't understand it.

I know of at least one hot sauce shop that actually sells capsaicin PILLS hotter than anything on earth. Millions of Scoville units. So many in fact, you have to sign a waiver before they'll sell them to you. My only question is, why???

I know that too much capsaicin at once can actually cause brain damage.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:41 PM (L2ZTs)

I've been to a spice store that has a couple of sauces that require a waiver.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (xj+jQ)

286 I find fault with the pictures above. There is not a lime slice in evidence.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (h4GWf)

287 b) I love my girl, and want her to be happy and healthy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:21 PM (x8Wzq)


You are a good man, Pug.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (TdMsT)

288 In my younger years, I used to buy chicken meals from a black owned takeout. They offered a smoking hot sauce covered chicken, where after a few minutes you just had to stop eating it. Miss those days when I wasn't taking a pill to control my stomach acid.

Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (sUl9n)

289 181 I like Cholula hot sauce much better than Tabasco.. Tabasco is way too vinegary for me.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 23, 2020 05:08 PM (CjFDo)

I can see that. My father will explode in psychotic rage if he detects a molecule of vinegar in the air in his house. Probably right to this day and the man is pushing 80. Me, on the other hand, am far from hostile to vinegar (and have become more friendly to vinegar over time) so I have no problems with Tabasco. Except possibly with addiction.

One day I am going to make a pilgrimage to New Iberia, LA to see where this magic substance is made.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (kFLDt)

290 The only cure I've ever found for over indulging in blazing hot spicy is a bite of apple. Kills the heat almost instantly for me. Nothing works for the other end.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:44 PM (K22Va)

291 286 I find fault with the pictures above. There is not a lime slice in evidence.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (h4GWf)


Ben Had!

Come on over--I'll get limes!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:44 PM (TdMsT)

292 Northernlurker, yup. That's too much.

Slater's 50/50 supposedly has a spicy burger with so much heat, you have to sign a waiver if you order it. Not sure it'd be worth it to try.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:44 PM (L2ZTs)

293 Can anyone enlighten me about whether it is less expensive to use a toaster oven for (example) heating a frozen pizza or making tater tots, or should I use my gas oven?

I know there are a lot of variables and it depends on what your gas and electric rates are. I have been able to figure my electric costs 17.5 cents per kilowatt hour and my gas costs $7.20 per Mcf, but that doesn't really help me much. Anyone got thoughts on what is more efficient?

Posted by: cfo mom at February 23, 2020 05:44 PM (RfzVr)

294 One day I am going to make a pilgrimage to New Iberia, LA to see where this magic substance is made.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (kFLDt)


I've never been there but I've heard that the air there smells like Tabasco.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 05:45 PM (aS1PU)

295 Decades ago, when we still lived in Chicago was the acme of homestyle Mexican food for us ... El Milagro on south Halsted by Maxwell St market, tacos for breakfast on Sunday mornings (always bought a couple "lengua" (tongue) because good, and they grossed out all my buddies ... out in the market, shrimp cocktails in plastic cups, "tamalitos calientes" out of big steaming coolers, little kids selling Corona longnecks out of buckets full of ice in defiance of the blue laws (cops would just confiscate the bucket from a little kid where they would arrest anyone else).

Elotes (corn-on-the-cob) from street vendors everywhere, paletas in the summer, oh my, so good.

The upside of "diversity".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 23, 2020 05:45 PM (zlgJP)

296 Ladyl, I'll bring the tequila.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:46 PM (h4GWf)

297 Here's a new cocktail, that I like to call-

The Pine-Scented Druid

1 oz Grande Liqueur de Sapins

1 oz Gin (use Navy Strength)

1 oz Maraschino Liqueur (Luxardo is best)

1 oz fresh lime juice

Shake with ice. Strain into glass. Garnish with cherry (Luxardo Maraschino cherries are the shizznizzle)


Those of you with some cocktail know-how will recognize this as a variation on the "Last Word".

Sapin liqueur has some similarities to Chartreuse (more Yellow than Green) but is also brewed with fir buds. So, you get a really nice, oily pine taste and scent just making it's presence known in the after-taste. Delicious. I think I like it better than the "Last Word". And I luvz me some Last Word.

And Sapin make a nice digestif all by it's lonesome.

But, beware....it's 110 Proof.


Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 05:46 PM (z0XD8)

298 A store here in out town sells just about every hot sauce made, a whole wall of little bottles. All most like craft beers, a quarter of the local market has nothing but craft beers....

Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2020 05:46 PM (sUl9n)

299 "Sort of like how the French do not know WTF a quarter pound is.)"

We like it.

Lots of small family eating' places around there there as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 05:46 PM (tT0V4)

300 286 I find fault with the pictures above. There is not a lime slice in evidence.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:43 PM (h4GWf)

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Did you look in de coconut?

Posted by: Harry Nilsson at February 23, 2020 05:47 PM (EimXz)

301 DrWTF, supposedly the entire town of Gilroy, CA smells like garlic. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:47 PM (L2ZTs)

302 My freind eats the hottest peppers he can get, I figure the taste must besides being acquired my also get desensitized.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 05:48 PM (ZCEU2)

303 244 Pug, that is pure love. Blessings on you!
Posted by: Empire1 at February 23, 2020 05:27 PM (Zmx4Q)

Gracias.

We have never been wealthy, but we have each other, and two adult sons who are good men. Family-wise, I hit the jackpot, and that includes the rascals I grew up with (3 sisters, 3 brothers), and my folks.

Best thing: my lady still laughs at my dumb jokes. Mostly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:48 PM (x8Wzq)

304 DrWTF, supposedly the entire town of Gilroy, CA smells like garlic. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:47 PM (L2ZTs)


I've been there and it does.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 05:48 PM (aS1PU)

305 Nothing works for the other end.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:44 PM (K22Va)

Preparation H. Srsly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:49 PM (x8Wzq)

306 Leftovers, Ben Had. Daughter made stuffed bell peppers yesterday and working on those. (She's just learning to cook with me in the house.) Fixing Cob Salad for wifey.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 05:49 PM (Dhht7)

307 296 Ladyl, I'll bring the tequila.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:46 PM (h4GWf)


I've got gin and tonic water, too!!!

I'll leave the porch light on!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:49 PM (TdMsT)

308 I am shilling for the Sedona Divine Oils Co.

They have without a doubt the best olive oils I have ever used and I grew up with the Napa Valley oil Co,

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 05:49 PM (h4GWf)

309 cfo mom. I would guess the toaster oven is much more cost effective. It takes less time to pre-heat and typically less time to bake. I use mine a lot when making small casseroles, baked beans for 2, etc. Much quicker and easier then the oven.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 23, 2020 05:49 PM (y3cwg)

310 Summerville used to be a small bedroom community. But with the expansion of Charleston it has become a Charleston suburb with extreme home prices for SC. A 1300 ft2 house

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 05:50 PM (mpXpK)

311 El Milagro on south Halsted by Maxwell St market

Hands down, best tortilla chips around here.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:50 PM (K22Va)

312 b) I love my girl, and want her to be happy and healthy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:21 PM (x8Wzq)


You are what I call a "luxury-model husband."

Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2020 05:51 PM (87gB3)

313 I grow cayenne and Thai peppers, and dry them to grind them to powder. Last year I got smart and ran the grinder on the back porch, and then had an idiot moment and took the grinder into the kitchen to clean the burrs with a toothbrush over the sink and still Maced myself

Posted by: Sweeny Todd at February 23, 2020 05:51 PM (g1G5z)

314 Here's the website description of Slater's 50/50 super-spicy burger:

50 ALARM BURGER
So hot, you have to sign a waiver to eat it. Our 50/50 beef and bacon blend rubbed with ghost chile powder, topped with ghost chile jack cheese, grilled jalapenos, habanero-bacon spread and sunny-side up egg on a brioche bun with spicy fried peppers

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:51 PM (L2ZTs)

315
thnx CBD

Posted by: trapper's girl at February 23, 2020 05:26 PM (Kue/z)

You're very welcome!

[Anyone know what I did?]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 05:52 PM (dLLD6)

316 Arizona is amazing. There are many different areas that have their own uniqueness and beauty.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 05:33 PM (aS1PU)
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Wait till you see Utah!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 05:53 PM (WFcrO)

317 Interesting about Mariposa. BIL and SIL love it. It's one of 4 to 6 restaurants owned by the same person. I believe she actually built Mariposa from scratch. Since it's right on the highway she should have known about the problem with car lights.
Her other establishments are in older buildings. One I believe used to be a Pizza Hut in a former life. We dined at 2 of them, not impressed with the swanky one but did enjoy the pizza place that took over the former Pizza Hut.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 23, 2020 05:53 PM (y3cwg)

318 I grow cayenne and Thai peppers, and dry them to grind them to powder. Last year I got smart and ran the grinder on the back porch, and then had an idiot moment and took the grinder into the kitchen to clean the burrs with a toothbrush over the sink and still Maced myself
Posted by: Sweeny Todd at February 23, 2020 05:51 PM (g1G5z)


Heh. When I was 8 or 9 I found a wild chili pepper plant in a vacant lot. I handled the peppers while admiring it. I went home to pee and WOW!

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 05:53 PM (aS1PU)

319 Utah is one of the nicest parts of Arizona.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Severe Conservative & Leading Republican at February 23, 2020 05:53 PM (EimXz)

320 Wait till you see Utah!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 05:53 PM (WFcrO)



I hear that Utah has them their very own, real honest to God-

Elder Statesman!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 05:54 PM (z0XD8)

321 Wait till you see Utah!

And try to find a real beer!

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:55 PM (K22Va)

322 Utah is very nice.

But, don't try the Orrin Hatch green chiles. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:55 PM (L2ZTs)

323 Finally tried fingers, which I figured would overwork the pastry, but that turned out to be the trick. YMMV.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 23, 2020 05:34 PM (fTtFy)
Great minds and all that...


That is exactly what I have discovered to be the best technique for me!

I rinse my hands in very cold water first...I don't know if it makes a difference but it seems like it should.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 05:55 PM (dLLD6)

324 Green Tabasco sauce is awesome used to flavor Mexican dishes. Highly recommended on tamales.

Posted by: The Guy at February 23, 2020 05:56 PM (6ykST)

325 We have never been wealthy, but we have each other, and two adult sons who are good men. Family-wise, I hit the jackpot, and that includes the rascals I grew up with (3 sisters, 3 brothers), and my folks.

Best thing: my lady still laughs at my dumb jokes. Mostly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, at February 23, 2020 05:48
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A blessed man. Good on you, Pug.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 05:57 PM (Dhht7)

326 Can't say why except from cross breeding that the peppers I grow, always Anaheim and often Jalapeno can vary in hot from very mild to very hot.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (ZCEU2)

327 Preparation H. Srsly.

Lol, I do keep a tube in the cabinet but try to stay away from situations where I'll need it.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (K22Va)

328 Here's the website description of Slater's 50/50 super-spicy burger:

50 ALARM BURGER
So hot, you have to sign a waiver to eat it. Our 50/50 beef and bacon blend rubbed with ghost chile powder, topped with ghost chile jack cheese, grilled jalapenos, habanero-bacon spread and sunny-side up egg on a brioche bun with spicy fried peppers
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:51 PM (L2ZTs)

315

That's too much. I like spicy but I don't need to prove anything.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (xj+jQ)

329 Green Tabasco sauce is awesome used to flavor Mexican dishes. Highly recommended on tamales.
Posted by: The Guy at February 23, 2020 05:56 PM (6ykST)

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No love for ketchup? Ketchup is great on everything.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (EimXz)

330 neverenoughcaffeine - that's what I thought, but my husband claims that with gas being so much cheaper and the amount of gas needed to heat the oven to 400 as opposed to the amount of electricity to heat the toaster oven, that using the big oven is better, price wise.

I don't know, I think both of our ideas make sense and I have zero ideas how to figure it out. Probably is pennies and not worth my time.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (RfzVr)

331 I like spicy but I don't need to prove anything.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 05:58 PM (xj+jQ)

Agree completely. If I can't taste the food past the heat then it is too hot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 05:59 PM (dLLD6)

332 I hear that Utah has them their very own, real honest to God-
Elder Statesman!

Saving the repubic from ourselves he is

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:00 PM (ZCEU2)

333 Wait till you see Utah!

And try to find a real beer!
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 05:55 PM (K22Va)
* * * *

Great craft breweries abound! Polygamy is a favorite.

As for "elder statesmen" politicians - they are up near Salt Lake, several hours and a universe away from here. And we arrived after the current members were already in place.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:01 PM (WFcrO)

334 [Anyone know what I did?]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 05:52
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Yes. Just being you and bringing Food Threads to us weekly. I think.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 06:01 PM (Dhht7)

335 CBD, are you at home for the next week?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2020 06:01 PM (h4GWf)

336 I'm 29 1/2 and have never been to Taco Bell. I like Tex-Mex but not hard shell tacos. They are just too messy.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 23, 2020 06:02 PM (G9Y8y)

337 6pm and still a little light out, whoo hoo!

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:02 PM (ZCEU2)

338 DrWTF, supposedly the entire town of Gilroy, CA smells like garlic. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 05:47 PM (L2ZTs)

It does. Sometimes you can even smell it on the other side of the County.

Nearby Morgan Hill smells like mushrooms, not nearly as strongly, but if you pass through, you'll notice it.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 23, 2020 06:02 PM (tVQUs)

339 Speaking of ho0t sauce...

Here's Gordon Ramsay on "The Hot Ones"

It's pretty funny and you can get an idea of the hot sauces you might want to try from his reactions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DyHthJ6LA


I got "Cheeba Gold" after watching this. It's interesting - a curry-spiced habanero sauce.

But, there are many others.

Watch, laugh, and learn.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 06:03 PM (z0XD8)

340 cfo mom. Probably pennies, but the toaster oven is faster for small items. I'll take that when I'm running a bit behind on getting dinner to the table.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 23, 2020 06:03 PM (y3cwg)

341 Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 05:48 PM (x8Wzq)

That is wonderful!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2020 06:03 PM (WI7YS)

342 Gone for a bit. Came back to these pics. My stomach is growling so loud I'll bet the neighbors can hear it.


Back to the content.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:04 PM (XxJt1)

343 Northernlurker and CBD, yup and yup.

If I do ever try that burger, I'll take it home first before eating it. I don't trust my lower GI to be able to handle it. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 06:05 PM (L2ZTs)

344 Surfperch, really? Wow. :-)
Between them, it probably smells like pizza.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 06:06 PM (L2ZTs)

345 I sure hope my elk meatballs turn out good...I worry I overworked them since I had forgotten the egg and had to reincorporate and shape everything again.
Posted by: Taylork at February 23, 2020 04:59 PM (+AUVB)
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Bet they are going to be just fine! You will have to let us know.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:06 PM (WFcrO)

346 The Guy, green jalapeno Tabasco sauce is indeed pretty tasty. Not too spicy either, just great flavor.

I like it on my mom's tuna casserole. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 06:06 PM (L2ZTs)

347 I work a couple blocks from the Phoenix Airport. Review sounds like it's worth giving a chance and I think going the extra mile to make a customer happy enough they go out and recommend it deserves some payback.

Posted by: Mst3k at February 23, 2020 06:07 PM (DTxSf)

348 Hey CBD! Watch out for Cannibal Bob, he just found out that you didn't call, visit, write while you were here in Phoenix. Glad you found a good restaurant in Phoenix. Sedona has beautiful landscape but the people up there are a bit too much for me.

Posted by: Heidi at February 23, 2020 06:08 PM (Orx/W)

349 I've also found throwing in some diced jalapenos does wonders for Stove Top stuffing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 06:08 PM (L2ZTs)

350 Happy Food Thread!!!!
Son's birthday is today, and i made the Ramdan from Parasite for him. Apparently i did okay, cause he said it was really good.

Very easy, with a rib eye cut into pieces, salted, peppered and seared in olive oil, make the chappagetti and neoguri noodles, waiting until the noodles are cooked before draining part of the water and then adding the seasonings. Top with the seared steak and then enjoy!!

Posted by: Moki at February 23, 2020 06:08 PM (mFoNl)

351 LOL! Read that as "buerre de arachnide".

Spider butter?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:09 PM (XxJt1)

352 Cicero, throw some Tabasco into that ketchup and then come talk to me

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2020 06:09 PM (L2ZTs)

353 Believe it or not, you can get good beer in Utah.

And liquor. just have to find a State Store. More of them in SLC than in some of the weird small towns.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 06:11 PM (x8Wzq)

354 When I got my first smoker I smoked everything just to try it. Smoked a bunch of jalapeno's and couldn't believe how much hotter they had become. I don't know if it was because the heat released the oils or what but I couldn't eat them. I think I turned them into chipoltles without the tomatoes.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 06:12 PM (K22Va)

355 I see CDB ran into Sedona Snobtards. I won't get it to that we are in Phoenix and would have loved to meet Mrs. CBD

Anyway Sedona has become overrun by Cali-East Coast Dbags and New Age charlatans. Sure, go get your chakras balanced by some guy from Joyzee with a ponytail and earrings. Or get harmonic therapy and psychic surgery from some ex-surf bum from Cali. Yeah, no thanks. Red rocks are awesome though.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:14 PM (Orx/W)

356 I drove across Utah a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Of course, it was on I-80 so it was nothing but high desert plains.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (J9I4C)

357 6 OT Early:

A Flat Earth Lunatic named Mad Mike Hughes launched himself into the air on Saturday on a homemade rocket ship, as part of his quest to prove that the Earth is shaped like a frisbee.

Results pretty predictable:

https://tinyurl.com/Mad-Mike-Rocket

ProTip: Make sure parachute doesn't deploy on takeoff.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (M2rKR)


Gravity can be a helpful tool, or it can be a real b!tch. Carefully determine which it will be before making drop cookies or jumping off a 200-foot building!

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (AMIL/)

358 Watching this crazy golf tournament from Mexico. Wonder how the Mexican food is down there?

Posted by: Caliban at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (QE8X6)

359

Okay all you cooks.
You have browned some dove breasts and finished em off in the oven in a rectangle cake dish with Gallo hearty burgundy.

Any particular spices you're going to add to the wine along with sour cream to make the sauce?

The birds and then the sauce are going on top of noodles.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (CeZq3)

360 Believe it or not, you can get good beer in Utah.

And liquor. just have to find a State Store. More of them in SLC than in some of the weird small towns.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 06:11 PM (x8Wzq)
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Whoa, buddy! Who ya callin' weird? Actually, there is a movement afoot to roll out some private-public liquor stores in Utah. And I have found that any town that has cowboys, has a place to buy liquor. Supply meets demand.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:16 PM (WFcrO)

361 LOL! Read that as "buerre de arachnide".

Spider butter?



Spider butts. Or "hindquarters" for those more refined.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 06:16 PM (HaL55)

362 CBD, your mention of the beans reminds me. Someone (I think here and maybe sidebar) posted a link to beans in the Instant Pot. You have to try these. They're fantastic. I can't link on this tablet and I'm too lazy to move to the desktop but if you DuckDuck "instant pot beans better from scratch" it will come up. This is THE bean recipe.

pssst...But use half the vinegar.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:16 PM (XxJt1)

363 I drove across Utah a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Of course, it was on I-80 so it was nothing but high desert plains.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (J9I4C)
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The same trip on I-70 would be vastly different. Such amazing views!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:18 PM (WFcrO)

364 teej...a little sage?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:20 PM (XxJt1)

365 by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:16 PM (WFcrO)

361 LOL! Read that as "buerre de arachnide".

Spider butter?


Spider butts. Or "hindquarters" for those more refined.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 06:16 PM (HaL55)

In a cook book I have somewhere I came across a recipe for big assed ants. Using the Spanish words of course.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 06:21 PM (xj+jQ)

366 I hope Mr Madrigal reads this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2020 06:21 PM (VHffN)

367

Maybe creeper.
I'm clueless. It's how the ex cooked dove. After eating it I swore I'd never eat dove just wrapped in bacon and grilled.

I have really missed dove hunting.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:22 PM (CeZq3)

368 @cannibal blob if you're ever down to try summa these tacos at lunch lemme know

Posted by: Mst3k at February 23, 2020 06:23 PM (DTxSf)

369 Results pretty predictable:

https://tinyurl.com/Mad-Mike-Rocket

ProTip: Make sure parachute doesn't deploy on takeoff.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (M2rKR)

Whoa. Thinning the herd.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:23 PM (Orx/W)

370 Any particular spices you're going to add to the wine along with sour cream to make the sauce?

The birds and then the sauce are going on top of noodles.
Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (CeZq3)
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Thyme is delicious with chicken, and should be with dove.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:23 PM (WFcrO)

371 Weird. "Find in page" (search) does not find my name @362. Skips right over that comment. Pixy? You okay?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:25 PM (XxJt1)

372 Oh, teej... a hint of nutmeg might be good to set off the sour cream.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:25 PM (WFcrO)

373 After eating it I swore I'd never eat dove just wrapped in bacon and grilled.


What about a jalapeno with cream cheese and bacon wrapped? I love dove cooked like that.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 06:25 PM (MmFTx)

374 The wind in Moab drove me out of there. That red dust gets everywhere.

Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2020 06:25 PM (K22Va)

375 Who knew that driving from 30 miles south of Laramie to just west of San Francisco would take 20 hours? With a brief stop in Battle Mountain, NV because the bearings went out on our tool trailer about a mile and a half from that exit. Talk about being out in the middle of nowhere, that's Battle Mountain NV. and maybe that someone was looking out for us because anywhere else on that stretch of interstate and that trailer would have been sitting on the side of the highway for a while.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 06:27 PM (J9I4C)

376 You know the song "Ring of Fire" Johnny Cash sang?

It's actually about your reaction to spicy food the next day.

"And it burns, burns, burns...."

IOW catastrophic failure of your O-rings.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at February 23, 2020 06:27 PM (WJcbb)

377 368 @cannibal blob if you're ever down to try summa these tacos at lunch lemme know

Posted by: Mst3k at February 23, 2020 06:23 PM (DTxSf)

Another SE moron. Excellent. I have to admit I'm not crazy about Mexican food Mst3k. Tacos, Burritos. Meh. Ok with tamales but not crazy about them. Except Menudo. I love Menudo.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (Orx/W)

378 Weird. "Find in page" (search) does not find my name @362. Skips right over that comment. Pixy? You okay?
Posted by: creeper


That works on my machine. It finds your name is 5 "posted by" lines (including 362), and one reply.

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (P1f+c)

379 re: Herbs

My dad told me, "When you want something but you don't know what you want you want thyme."

Going with Legally Sufficient on this. Scratch the sage.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (XxJt1)

380 Got all the ingredients for wife's Cobb Salad cooked and chopped. Waiting and 30 mins until she's ready to eat. Hollywood's Brown Derby would be impressed.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (Dhht7)

381 Watched that Mad Mike video awhile ago, wtf was he thinking?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ZCEU2)

382 After eating it I swore I'd never eat dove just wrapped in bacon and grilled.


One of my hunting buddy's dad back home in Alabama would pan-fry ours in sauce that I think may have been wine-based. Mmmm, fine eatin'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (HaL55)

383 Sedona has beautiful landscape but the people up there are a bit too much for me.
Posted by: Heidi at February 23, 2020 06:08 PM (Orx/W)
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You can safely freeze the uneaten portions.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

384 My aunt makes a delicious dove gumbo. I haven't had that in forever.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (MmFTx)

385 I just found out theres a town in AZ called Nothing. And yep, theres nothing there. Hardly a ghost town. One abandoned trashed store.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Orx/W)

386

Might have been some Thyme, LS.
Don't think there was any nutmeg. I know that taste.

Don't know about the jalapeno thing.
They have their place but, for me, that doesn't include being a large portion of the main course.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:31 PM (CeZq3)

387 Legally Sufficient, I wish you would make up our minds. Nutmeg would be heavenly, too.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:31 PM (XxJt1)

388 Damn. SW I meant.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:31 PM (Orx/W)

389 381 Watched that Mad Mike video awhile ago, wtf was he thinking?
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ZCEU2)
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He had a little time to regret his chute deployment setup.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:32 PM (MVjcR)

390 ---
You can safely freeze the uneaten portions.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Dc2NZ)


I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 06:33 PM (TdMsT)

391 Got all the ingredients for wife's Cobb Salad cooked and chopped. Waiting and 30 mins until she's ready to eat. Hollywood's Brown Derby would be impressed.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (Dhht7)
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You're a good man, olddog!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:33 PM (WFcrO)

392 mikeski, thanks for running it. I tried a fourth time, after I'd posted another comment and it came up. Quien sabe?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:34 PM (XxJt1)

393 389 381 Watched that Mad Mike video awhile ago, wtf was he thinking?
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ZCEU2)
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He had a little time to regret his chute deployment setup.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:32 PM (MVjcR)

I keep watching it. Sometimes someone that stupid...I mean you can't help but shake your head and laugh. Hell the guy with the lawn chair, helium balloons and a BB gun had a better plan than him.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:35 PM (Orx/W)

394 I guess Mad Mike did die as hitting the ground a couple of hundred miles a hour isn't to survivable

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:35 PM (ZCEU2)

395 Legally Sufficient, I wish you would make up our minds. Nutmeg would be heavenly, too.
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 06:31 PM (XxJt1)
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Embrace the healing power of "and" my friend! I like a little nutmeg in creamy sauces and some soups (like potato soup). Just enough nutmeg in there to make you think you taste it, but yet you are not really sure.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:36 PM (WFcrO)

396 393 389 381 Watched that Mad Mike video awhile ago, wtf was he thinking?
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ZCEU2)
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He had a little time to regret his chute deployment setup.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:32 PM (MVjcR)

I keep watching it. Sometimes someone that stupid...I mean you can't help but shake your head and laugh. Hell the guy with the lawn chair, helium balloons and a BB gun had a better plan than him.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:35 PM (Orx/W)
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Clearly not a rocket surgeon.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:36 PM (MVjcR)

397 The Guy, green jalapeno Tabasco sauce is indeed pretty tasty. Not too spicy either, just great flavor.

I like it on my mom's tuna casserole. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve


Tabasco Green is excellent on raw oysters.

Posted by: Miklos, Molluskatorian at February 23, 2020 06:37 PM (QzkSJ)

398

Thyme it is then. I'm gonna guess a little goes a long way?
Like maybe half a teaspoon to a couple pints of wine?
I figure I'll just keep adding the sour cream till I hit the right thickness.

Watch out dovies! I've got a LT-20 and it's loaded for bear, er, doves.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:37 PM (CeZq3)

399 Never been to Sedona, but I've been to Albuquerque NM and those people there are just weird. Me and a buddy were working on the job and this dude comes traipsing in wearing a pair of rainbow colored spandex pants. We both looked at each other and said man...I'll never get that image out of my head. Spandex is ruined forever.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 06:37 PM (J9I4C)

400

Come Sept 1st, it's on.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (CeZq3)

401 I pondered roasting a head of cauliflower in spices and then making curried cauliflower with chick peas in ginger sauce, but then I parked my butt in front of the 'puter and now I'm eating white meat chicken out of a can. And it's good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Dc2NZ)

402 You can safely freeze the uneaten portions.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

LOL! Bob is the lone cannibal in the family...I was a vegetarian for the first 20+ years of our marriage. I have added back chicken, etc. but leave the hobos to Bob.

Posted by: Heidi at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Orx/W)

403 Clearly not a rocket surgeon.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:36 PM (MVjcR)


LOL. No shit Weasel. gees. Darwin all the way.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Orx/W)

404 139
I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...
Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (TdMsT)
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I'm telling.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

Is that like stealing tears from Pele?

Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (qyH+l)

405 Teej, be sure to rub the thyme between your fingers as it goes from jar to sauce. More yummier!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:39 PM (WFcrO)

406 You're a good man, olddog!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 23, 2020 06:33
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*blushes* Thanks, LS. But behind every good man is a great woman.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 06:39 PM (Dhht7)

407 Mad Mike Hoare > Mad Mike Rocket Boy Flat Earther

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Z+IKu)

408 404 139
I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (TdMsT)
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I'm telling.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

I KNEW something was missing!

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Orx/W)

409 "401 I pondered roasting a head of cauliflower in spices and then making curried cauliflower with chick peas in ginger sauce, but then I parked my butt in front of the 'puter and I'm eating white meat chicken out of a can. And it's good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Dc2NZ) "




I have found myself in that kind of situation a few times, myself ... and so has Mrs. Eez !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 23, 2020 06:41 PM (zlgJP)

410 CBD
I thought I would mention the photos of the tacos are upside down or maybe you did that on purpose?

Posted by: Jon at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (Uq2FT)

411 404 139
I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...
Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (TdMsT)
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I'm telling.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

Is that like stealing tears from Pele?
Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2020 06:38 PM (qyH+l)


Better.

It makes leftists cry when they see it on my bookshelf.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (TdMsT)

412
If one "steals" a rock from somewhere on Earth and does not launch it into space, can one be said to actually have stolen it?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (cUjHa)

413
I KNEW something was missing!
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Orx/W)
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Yeah! Now the whole damn place is harmonically imbalanced and shit.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (MVjcR)

414 Of all things a turkey sale at the grocery store. I thought.. WTF. Bought a 17 pounder to cook in the Big Easy this weekend.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (Orx/W)

415 I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...

Posted by: Ladyl

I have some Healing Crystals, for a very reasonable compensation.

Remain Blessed

Posted by: Holistic Healer Miklos, for all Modalities at February 23, 2020 06:43 PM (QzkSJ)

416 413
I KNEW something was missing!
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Orx/W)
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Yeah! Now the whole damn place is harmonically imbalanced and shit.

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (MVjcR)


Well you can cross that of your list of places to visit now that LadyL RUINED it.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:44 PM (Orx/W)

417 darwin designed mad mike's rocketship. darwin always wins.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 23, 2020 06:44 PM (KP5rU)

418 Yeah! Now the whole damn place is harmonically imbalanced and shit.
Posted by: Weasel

Ancient Southwestern Feng Shui Theorists say YES

Posted by: Miklos, balanced and mindful at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (QzkSJ)

419 Traveling Man, I forwarded your email to VIA. Sorry I'm such an airhead and can't type either.

Posted by: bluebell at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (/669Q)

420 Cooking turkey outside of holiday season is so transgressional!

I often have a mini-Thanksgiving feast in the summer just to have all those turkey leftovers and to smell those fall spices.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (Dc2NZ)

421 Yay! Late to the Food Thread!

Still playing with the sous vide circulator with great results. Other than that, been reupholstering dining room chairs all afternoon. One project down.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (rBtIz)

422 Yeah! Now the whole damn place is harmonically imbalanced and shit.


That Japanese funk shwing thingy is all out of whack.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (HaL55)

423
413
I KNEW something was missing!
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Orx/W)
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Yeah! Now the whole damn place is harmonically imbalanced and shit.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 06:42 PM (MVjcR)




Bwahahaha!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 06:45 PM (TdMsT)

424 415 I stole a red rock from Sedona. It's on my bookshelf...

Posted by: Ladyl

I hope it's not a red rock spider.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 06:46 PM (xj+jQ)

425 170 Kale is one of the initial steps in the Left's march to misery.
Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 05:03 PM (TdMsT)

You'd think a gateway drug would be more tempting.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 05:04 PM (NWiLs)

The next step is arugula.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2020 06:47 PM (qyH+l)

426

Well you can cross that of your list of places to visit now that LadyL RUINED it.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 06:44 PM (Orx/W)


I did! I ruined it and laughed all the way home on the plane!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 06:47 PM (TdMsT)

It's Our Constitution...If We Can keep It.

It's a little histrionic, but the point is valid and powerful...

The Law That Ate the Constitution

During a democratic town hall event hosted by the Human Rights Campaign and CNN on October 10, 2019, then-candidate Beto O’Rourke proposed revoking the tax-exempt status of churches and religious organizations that oppose gay marriage. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break,” he intoned, “for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us.” O’Rourke’s abuse of the term “civil rights”—his pandering attempt to borrow the moral grandeur of 1964 in order to abrogate the First Amendment—is no longer an anomaly. On the contrary, as Christopher Caldwell so ably shows in The Age of Entitlement, his remark is a perfect example of what civil rights has come to mean.

One of the most astute observers of contemporary politics, Caldwell argues that the United States now has two constitutions. The first is the one on the books. The second arose in the 1960s and replaced the old liberties with new, incompatible ones based on group identities. “Much of what we have called ‘polarization’ or ‘incivility’ in recent years is something more grave,” he writes. “[I]t is the disagreement over which of the two constitutions shall prevail.” More bracing still, he puts the blame for this crisis on the most sacred totem in American politics: our civil rights legislation.

Civil Rights today is no more than an industry designed to transfer wealth from person "A" to person "B," at the expense of the intent of the framers.

I find most offensive the idea that Americans are incapable of change. That we are incapable of making informed decisions. For instance, I believe it is a business owner's right to exclude anyone he wishes from his establishment. And it is my right to bypass his establishment on the way to one whose owner is more in tune with what I believe about "civil rights."

Would America have moved past race as a primary indicator of social standing (and so much more) without federal civil rights legislation? Yes, I believe so. Would it have happened as quickly? Perhaps not, but we would not have been left with a massive federal bureaucracy that is coupled to an equally massive grift, which have combined to sour the basic idea of civil equality.

It's a mess, and I don't see much on the horizon that can reverse it.

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1 Okay first.

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:19 PM (WX+x0)

2 The national compact has been dissolved.

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:20 PM (WX+x0)

3 Rapture?

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:21 PM (WX+x0)

4 power corrupts

Posted by: chango butt at February 23, 2020 02:21 PM (B+t5k)

5 There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break, he intoned, for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us.

I don't know of any religious institution that opposes civil unions sanctioned by the state. State protocols have no right to intrude on a religious institutions sacramental tradition.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 02:22 PM (kD8Fh)

6 LBJ should be dug up, taken out back and shot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:23 PM (XyVor)

7 If you think about it, slavery would have ended without the tragedy of the Civil War. Slavery was becoming untendible as an institution anyway because of mechanization. It might have just taken a few years longer.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 02:24 PM (J9I4C)

8 Good Afternoon Horde.

Posted by: BigZesty at February 23, 2020 02:24 PM (jPXu7)

9 We laughed when Beto, with all his talk about taking our AR-15s, had to bow out after getting pretty much zero support.

Sanders is a strong contender for the Dem nomination, and he's 50 times crazier.

Posted by: PabloD at February 23, 2020 02:25 PM (a0kj6)

10 Would America have moved past race as a primary indicator of social standing (and so much more) without federal civil rights legislation? Yes, I believe so.

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Fighting fire with fire just burned the house down.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

11 Having doubts lately

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:27 PM (ZCEU2)

12 Wuzzat mean, zackly?
Is is now hyper-sensitive? Lightened the trigger down to 2 lbs?
Untested?

Maybe just keep it pointed at the floor until it's time.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:28 PM (z79tQ)

13 Er, perhaps I should've copied and pasted the relevant part.

[The Ban HammerTM was just overhauled, so please be aware!]

Posted by: CBD at 02:15 PM

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:28 PM (z79tQ)

14 Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@davidfrum: Trump is ""one of the fattest presidents ever, the least physically capable president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair"

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Yeah, boy, that Trump is a lazy SOB who never does anything.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)

15 Gotta wonder if the pendulum will stop and start swinging back before it reaches rights for pedophiles or not.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 23, 2020 02:29 PM (hr5kG)

16 Only a matter of time European Hate Speach laws will get here, probably in the same form as Virginia taking away 2nd Amendment rights.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:30 PM (ZCEU2)

17 Can we haz the new banhammer specs, please?

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 23, 2020 02:31 PM (JRXet)

18 Yeah, boy, that Trump is a lazy SOB who never does anything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)

He seems filled with Vim and/or Vigor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:32 PM (XyVor)

19 Regarding the civil rights thing, it appears that civil rights not enumerated in the constitution have taken precedence over the enumerated ones. That's the way the left likes it.
Freedom of association has been stripped away from regular folks, to the detriment of all.
For example, I wonder how many duplex units would become available if the live-in owners were allowed to choose who to rent to, or not.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:32 PM (z79tQ)

20 .@davidfrum: Trump is ""one of the fattest presidents ever, the least physically capable president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair"
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"...the least physically capable..."

What does this mean? I'd like to see Frum do three rallies in three months , not three days--as Trump just did.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2020 02:33 PM (CqE5x)

21 Here's what I have noticed about the Left:

They opposed civil rights as long as it was about ensuring that everyone got to enjoy their God-given, inalienable rights.

The Left only champions "civil rights" when it involves allowing some people to trample the inalienable rights of other people.

Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2020 02:33 PM (87gB3)

22 If a lawyer wins a civil rights lawsuit against the government the government pays the lawyer on top of the settlement.

Congress did that to encourage feasting at y government trough. Ex Congress critters get put on the pad at biglaw firms to dip their legal beaks in the moola.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:33 PM (G5XIB)

23 So according to Jack Posobiec on Twitter that Bernie Bro, Alex Friedmann, arrested in Nashville last week for planting loaded guns in a jail under construction and planning a mass escape turns out to have served a previous prison sentence of 20 years for attempted murder and aggravated robbery.

He also served as a "criminal justice consultant" on Bernie's 2016 campaign.

Of course no one in the MSM is touching the story at all.

Posted by: Nevyan at February 23, 2020 02:34 PM (a7HML)

24 Almost every law passed since FDR was President has been unconstitutional. The reason: FDR packed the court with communists who did not give a shit for the constitution. 4 terms will allow a lot of SCOTUS appointments.

We are just now recovering from those awful years but all those laws are not going away.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 02:35 PM (mpXpK)

25 If I were black, I'd be highly insulted that gays and transgenders utilize the language and political apparatus of the Civil Rights movement for the ends.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2020 02:35 PM (CqE5x)

26 Yeah, boy, that Trump is a lazy SOB who never does anything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)

He seems filled with Vim and/or Vigor.

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Jumpin' Don Flash he's a gas gas gas!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:35 PM (+y/Ru)

27 There was no need for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The 14th Amendment had it covered and all that was needed was to enforce it.

Of course the people who were not enforcing it were......wait for it........democrats.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 02:36 PM (Z+IKu)

28 "Civil rights" as currently intoned is just another weapon used to beat on the opponents of the left's constant grasping for power over every aspect of our lives.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 23, 2020 02:36 PM (xkSJa)

29 "It's a mess, and I don't see much on the horizon that can reverse it.

[The Ban HammerTM was just overhauled, so please be aware!]"

There is only one absolutely proven method to reverse it. Your second sentence reveals why WE will never be organized enough to actually use it.

Posted by: SDN at February 23, 2020 02:37 PM (K9d/B)

30 Buttseks is an essential human expression and we are doomed if there is not a tax advantage applied to it!

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:37 PM (RuIsu)

31 Yeah, boy, that Trump is a lazy SOB who never does anything.
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I'm a lot younger and thinner than Trump, but I wish I had half his stamina. He's like the Energizer Bunny. I was impressed with him back in 2016, flying or riding from one campaign event to the next, without missing a beat: holding rallies, giving speeches, answering questions, and always appearing sharp. It's an exhausting way to live, even for a relatively short period of time, but he never acted like he was feeling the strain -- unlike, say, Hillary Clinton, who wasn't putting forth anywhere near the physical effort that Trump was, but still appeared worn and tired much of the time.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 02:37 PM (k4dH2)

32 Rapture?
Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:21 PM (WX+x0)

Funny.

Except if true and you're still here...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:38 PM (z79tQ)

33 #19. If you keep your rentals under five you an discriminate on any basis you want. Especially true in fourplexes you live in.

But don't be overt because a strike suit against you can cost you lots of money defending it.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:38 PM (G5XIB)

34 Rapture?


It was about Fab 5 Freddy and eating cars from Mars.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 02:40 PM (gd9RK)

35 I don't know of any religious institution that opposes civil unions sanctioned by the state. State protocols have no right to intrude on a religious institutions sacramental tradition.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 02:22 PM

My church values matrimony and childrearing. In fact, one of the few reasons to get a divorce and annulment is that the union is incapable of producing children.Artificial means are, too, as it requires selective abortion.

Pete thinks he can do the job on the Catholics that Henry VIII couldn't? He thinks the Orthodox Churches that endured violence and gulags is going to blanch because of taxes?

He needs to repent.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 02:41 PM (/+bwe)

36 There is only one absolutely proven method to
reverse it. Your second sentence reveals why WE will never be organized
enough to actually use it.

Posted by: SDN at February 23, 2020 02:37 PM (K9d/B)

Wrongo. This is a private blog. I enforce Ace's rules, and if you don't like that you can leave.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 02:41 PM (dLLD6)

37 27
There was no need for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.



The 14th Amendment had it covered and all that was needed was to enforce it.



Of course the people who were not enforcing it were......wait for it........democrats.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 02:36 PM (Z+IKu)

There are a lot of things in the civil rights act of 1964 that are not in the 14th amendment. And most of them are unconstitutional. The civil rights act of 1964 essentially eliminate private property. And that was long before Kelo which is also unconstitutional as hell.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

38 34 Rapture?


It was about Fab 5 Freddy and eating cars from Mars.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 02:40 PM (gd9RK)

I thought it was an underwater Objectivist paradise.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:41 PM (XyVor)

39 The '64 civil rights bill passed using JFK. Being dead helped get it done.

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:42 PM (WX+x0)

40 #19. If you keep your rentals under five you an discriminate on any basis you want. Especially true in fourplexes you live in.

But don't be overt because a strike suit against you can cost you lots of money defending it.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:38 PM (G5XIB)

You say that, and I hear that we have free speech as long as you have the correct opinion.
btw, that doesn't sound like it would stand up in court, unless you live somewhere with an ordinance that specifically says so.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:43 PM (z79tQ)

41 39 The '64 civil rights bill passed using JFK. Being dead helped get it done.
Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:42 PM (WX+x0)

How many things can be tied to JFK? He was a technocrat, but liked lower taxes (what I consider the root of many ills.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:43 PM (XyVor)

42 Huh, how bout that. I can use returns with brave and not have pixy freak.

apostrophes are still not allowed.

Posted by: Dread Justice Roberts at February 23, 2020 02:44 PM (h8gt6)

43 It's pretty great that Sotomayor is doing interviews claiming that SCOTIS is now biased toward Trump.

She's not even per se disagreeing with the immigration decision.

Just trying to undermine the entire legitimacy of the high court.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 23, 2020 02:44 PM (hr5kG)

44 The Founders recognized "Natural Rights" as those endowed by the Creator.

Man created "Civil Rights" in order to claim that man can "create" rights, and, therefore, try to claim that which is reserved to God.


Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (WEBkv)

45 How many things can be tied to JFK? He was a technocrat, but liked lower taxes (what I consider the root of many ills.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:43 PM (XyVor)


Allowing the Federal bureaucracy to unionize. Disastrous.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (GRbI+)

46 Just trying to undermine the entire legitimacy of the high court.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 23, 2020 02:44 PM (hr5kG)

Which is not a bad argument.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (XyVor)

47 Academic arguments that "Inequitable result" with no proof of actual intent shows iillegal discrimination has destroyed common sense. Funny how the judicial pinheads who argued that trope dont see it in the other direction, ie, the stark racial imbalance in professional sports - look at any pro NBA or NFL team and you'll find egregious examples of abhorrent racism. No?

Posted by: Mike G. at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (DYHi4)

48 #27 Heart of Atlanta Motel civil rights case busted the log jam.

Most of employees were black but blacks couldn't rent a room. 75% of roomers were from out of state. So government stepped on owner's right of association under Commerce Clause.

I remember my parents bitching about being refused service at a Howard Johnson because they wore denim in the 1950's.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:48 PM (G5XIB)

49 We are no longer a nation of Americans. We're even growing out of being a nation of tribes. We're approaching a nation of individuals who have zero connections to anyone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (l9m7l)

50 I remember my parents bitching about being refused service at a Howard Johnson because they wore denim in the 1950's.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:48 PM (G5XIB)

I would go to that HoJo, but I would walk past it to the next restaurant if they refused service to Blacks.

And that is the heart of my argument. America would have made institutional racism wither. We didn't need the cudgel of Federal law.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (dLLD6)

51 Academic arguments that "Inequitable result" with no proof of actual intent shows iillegal discrimination has destroyed common sense. Funny how the judicial pinheads who argued that trope dont see it in the other direction, ie, the stark racial imbalance in professional sports - look at any pro NBA or NFL team and you'll find egregious examples of abhorrent racism. No?
Posted by: Mike G. at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (DYHi4)


No.

Sports, where results and only results matter, are a good example of how things work best.
You could use their duplicitious arguments against them using that logic, but all that would be accomplished is highlighting their hypocrisy.

Which they don't care about.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (z79tQ)

52 #43 yes...I noticed that.

Remember when Trump said 'Obama judges'?

They went berserk.

Lolol.

I expect ...nae DEMAND... Sotomayor pen all dissents going forward with vitriol.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (G5XIB)

53 Why it is almost like WASTF?


Five sets of laws (at least some have internal refinements/categories within):

Political Class
Diversity Class (LBGTQWERTYUIOP*+)
Illegal Class
muslim Class
Legal Citizen Class (underclass of white straight males)

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 02:52 PM (BiNEL)

54 JFK really didn't get the ball rolling long enough, not that he didn't do bad things in time allowed.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:52 PM (ZCEU2)

55 And that is the heart of my argument. America would have made institutional racism wither. We didn't need the cudgel of Federal law.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (dLLD6)

We bureaucratized Right and Wrong. Does not work so well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:53 PM (XyVor)

56 I remember my parents bitching about being refused service at a Howard Johnson because they wore denim in the 1950's.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:48 PM (G5XIB)

Must've been owned by George Will's parents.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)

57 After I read the Sotomayor piece I went and pinched a loaf.

Don't go in there.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2020 02:54 PM (G5XIB)

58 >U goes at the end of the qwertyuiop*+

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:54 PM (RuIsu)

59 54 JFK really didn't get the ball rolling long enough, not that he didn't do bad things in time allowed.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:52 PM (ZCEU2)

FDR and Wilson (or the institution of the permanent income tax) really got the ball rolling.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:54 PM (XyVor)

60 The death of JFK generated great emotion and as democrats never waste a crisis his death was used to pass the bill. Would it have passed otherwise maybe not.

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:55 PM (WX+x0)

61 60 The death of JFK generated great emotion and as democrats never waste a crisis his death was used to pass the bill. Would it have passed otherwise maybe not.
Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 02:55 PM (WX+x0)

Yeah the Assassination (by a pinko commie SOB) was used to make a cultural C change.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:56 PM (XyVor)

62 the stark racial imbalance in professional sports - look at any pro NBA or NFL team and you'll find egregious examples of abhorrent racism. No?

Posted by: Mike G. at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM
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Yeah, but NFL owners have a "plantation mentality" per Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 02:57 PM (Dhht7)

63 And that is the heart of my argument. America would have made institutional racism wither. We didn't need the cudgel of Federal law.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 02:51 PM (dLLD6)


We have never been a perfect Nation, but once upon a time we were actually quite reasonable and institutional racism is unsustainable in a rational modern civilization.

Now we have formalized inverse racism/discrimination and enshrined them into thousands upon thousands of laws/regulations that enhance only the State!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 02:57 PM (BiNEL)

64 42 Huh, how bout that. I can use returns with brave and not have pixy freak.

apostrophes are still not allowed.
Posted by: Dread Justice Roberts at February 23, 2020 02:44 PM (h8gt6)

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Apostrophes require Platinum Level membership.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 23, 2020 02:57 PM (CAJOC)

65 What does Beto say about my human right to boldly and publicly state that gays are created out of daddy issues run amok, and they are CLEARLY substituting a man's anus for a vagina because they've psychologically placed women out of reach?

Am I "allowed" to say that in his world?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 02:58 PM (OtBmD)

66 I think the problem , as with all government solutions , is they don't know when to stop and always exceeds its original mandate. I blame lawyers who haven't found a law they can't reinterpret.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 02:58 PM (NWEal)

67 apostrophes are still not allowed.

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First they came for the apostrophes and I did nothing because I'm illiterate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:58 PM (+y/Ru)

68 Does a Catholic church have to perform a Jewish wedding?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (OtBmD)

69
I wish people would stop following Frum and posting his crap. It is not worth reading.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (zr5Kq)

70 What about endostrophes?

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (RuIsu)

71 Civil Rights today is no more than an industry designed to transfer wealth from person "A" to person "B," at the expense of the intent of the framers.

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Because ALL conflict is about resources.

Show me a "war started by religion" and I'll show you a war over resources that historians are lying about because they are insufferable atheist bigots.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (OtBmD)

72 Yeah, but NFL owners have a "plantation mentality" per Rev. Jesse Jackson.

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The Reverend Jackson has a grifter mentality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (+y/Ru)

73 70 What about endostrophes?
Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (RuIsu)

Endostrophy looks and sounds like a real word.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (XyVor)

74 ...then they came for ampersands...

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (zr5Kq)

75 And that is the heart of my argument. America would have made institutional racism wither. We didn't need the cudgel of Federal law.


Do you know any black people who agree with that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:02 PM (gd9RK)

76 The Old Constitution was based on the INDIVIDUAL Sovereign Citizen.

The new Order is based on treating everyone as part of some group, ethnic, economic, Gender, or how you self identify.

Those two outlooks are incompatible.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2020 03:02 PM (NgKpN)

77 14 Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@davidfrum: Trump is ""one of the fattest presidents ever, the least physically capable president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair"

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Yeah, boy, that Trump is a lazy SOB who never does anything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)

He's big-boned.

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:02 PM (Y3R0d)

78 David Frum (this morning): Fatty Fatty two-by-four, POTUS can't get through the kitchen door!

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (Roy2Z)

79 Katzenbach v. McClung was a bigger stretch than Heart of Atlanta. Ollie McClung ran Ollie's Barbecue, which the federal courts held was engaged in interstate commerce and therefore subject to the CRA because some of its supplies originated out of state. Sure, those purchases may have implicated interstate commerce, but sales at his lunch counter were completely within Alabama. Hard cases make bad law, as they say.

The logic of Jim Crow laws is interesting. If all whites were discriminating on the basis of race, no Jim Crow laws would have been necessary. They just would have gone on discriminating. Instead, logic would dictate that Jim Crow laws had to be passed because there were whites who didn't discriminate sufficiently and this lack of discrimination was a threat to the white power structure. That would indicate that the white power structure knew that discrimination was an untenable position.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (jK8Z7)

80 Am I "allowed" to say that in his world?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 02:58
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You can say it. But it'll get you 5-10. H8tr. /

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (Dhht7)

81 Show me a "war started by religion" and I'll show you a war over resources that historians are lying about because they are insufferable atheist bigots.
Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (OtBmD)

Ok, Crusades?

Control of the trade routes from the Orient?

Control of access to Holy sites (which one could look at as a resource.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (XyVor)

82 Yeah, but NFL owners have a "plantation mentality" per Rev. Jesse Jackson.

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That explains why all the players can be heard in the locker room singing spirituals, the blues, and praying loudly, "Oh, Lord, whens we gunna be free?"

It also explains all those white players in the game. And Samoans.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (OtBmD)

83 No, there's only one constitution, and one set of animating concepts and values shaping it (even as it evolved and was amended).

The racism, tribalism, rent-seeking, and authoritarian/totalitarian obsessions now grouped together as "civil rights" or "human rights" issues are simply directly contrary to the most fundamental concept of the USA: the individual is the unit of account, the individual has the rights, the government has limited authority.

There are no tribes, races, colors, genders, or preferences for paper or plastic involved.

Chicken and egg, as far as how the country devolved to this sad state. But the combo of - 1) lack of historically American values (see above) actually held by so many current "Americans", 2) lack of critical thinking capacity 3) lack of knowledge or understanding of our history 4) the institutionalization of shake-down/theft, hate, bigotry, and the normalization of authoritarianism - seem to present pretty daunting challenges.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (El6T/)

84 70 What about endostrophes?
Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (RuIsu)

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Exploratory procedures are covered by the Ace of Spades health plan, available only to Cobs.

Everyone else must pay out the wazoo...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 23, 2020 03:04 PM (CAJOC)

85 78
I thought body-shaming was bad.

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 03:04 PM (Roy2Z)

86 davidfrum: Trump is ""one of the fattest presidents ever, the least physically capable president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair"


What insane jibberish is this?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 03:05 PM (NWEal)

87 78 David Frum (this morning): Fatty Fatty two-by-four, POTUS can't get through the kitchen door!
Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (Roy2Z)

*with apologies to... the Andrews sisters?*

Mr Five by Five,
he's five feet tall,
and he's five feet wide.
He don't measure no more,
from head to toe,
than he do,
from side to side.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:05 PM (XyVor)

88 75 And that is the heart of my argument. America would have made institutional racism wither. We didn't need the cudgel of Federal law.


Do you know any black people who agree with that?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:02 PM (gd9RK)

What really killed equal rights, was the Supreme Court saying it was legal to discriminate against individual Citizens, based on perceived GROUP identity, to supposedly make up for past wrongs.

Affirmative Action institutionalized legal Racism far more than Jim Crow ever did IMO.

Why? Because we can't seem to ever get stupid Supreme Court decisions overturned.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2020 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

89 The Reverend Jackson has a grifter mentality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 03:01
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Tell me about it. Had to pay off his Rainbow Coalition some 25k to get them off my back.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 03:05 PM (Dhht7)

90 He's absolutely right about their being 2 constitution; and also he could go farther and talk about the written law, and the hidden law, and how the hidden law is far more powerful today.

This is why people get so mad at lawyers, because lawyers are the agents of a system that runs on the hidden law, not the written law. It's their job to know it and navigate it, for a fee.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:06 PM (q3gwH)

91 Show me a "war started by religion" and I'll show you a war over resources that historians are lying about because they are insufferable atheist bigots.
Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (OtBmD)

Ok, Crusades?

Control of the trade routes from the Orient?

Control of access to Holy sites (which one could look at as a resource.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD

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Try this:

There's World Power A (an older, established power) and World Power Z (the fresh, new upstart).

Everywhere they meet there are skirmishes on every border. A tense situation hangs over them.

World Power Z is taking ground bit by bit, region by region.

Eventually, World Power Z takes a small patch of land that causes World Power A to snap, "THAT DOES IT!"

World Power A shoves troops into that tiny spot "whereon the numbers cannot try the cause; which is not tomb enough and continent to hide the slain."

World Power Z send troops in.

A stalemate ensues. Villages are burned. Innocents are slaughtered.

The Question:

...Did I just describe the Crusades or the Vietnam War?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (OtBmD)

92 Many white people marched with MLK Jr.

Over time, institutional racism is economically unsustainable.


Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (CTN7u)

93 Frum obviously doesn't remember Bam working out or shooting hoops - that was physical inability.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (xceTB)

94 Allowing the Federal bureaucracy to unionize. Disastrous.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 02:45 PM (GRbI+)

Sure, unionize. But you don't have to join and political contributions are illegal. Also, every 3 years the union has to go through a recertification by secret ballot. Fail, no union.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 03:09 PM (e1mEI)

95 Caesar, excellent point about Jim Crowe.

And when you have "affirmative action" - just about the platonic ideal of a violation of everything the constitution was supposed to establish and protect - tolerated for a nano-second (much less blessed by such idiotic nonsense as O'Connor's infamous deranged opinion) - then the whole system really has surrendered its legitimacy.

And though judicial lawlessness and constitutional derailment are responsible for most of today's dysfunction, it was/is the most pathetic failings (race "guilt", victimhood mentality) that have allowed evisceration of our values like affirmative action.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 03:09 PM (El6T/)

96 Do you know any black people who agree with that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:02 PM (gd9RK)

That isn't an argument against my point.


[Clarence Thomas]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:09 PM (dLLD6)

97 Did I just describe the Crusades or the Vietnam War?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (OtBmD)

Bravo.

I am not arguing against the idea, but you will notice the above scenario is not about resources (except tangentially.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:09 PM (XyVor)

98 Frum obviously doesn't remember Bam working out or shooting hoops - that was physical inability.
Posted by: rammajamma

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Or just image search for "Obama bike" for a laugh.

What a fairy.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:10 PM (OtBmD)

99 "Civil Rights" are a projection of power by the judiciary. Every home and business becomes a Federal property where behavior is dictated by the ruling class. They love it.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 23, 2020 03:10 PM (CTN7u)

100 Did I just describe the Crusades or the Vietnam War?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (OtBmD)

Bravo.

I am not arguing against the idea, but you will notice the above scenario is not about resources (except tangentially.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD

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Yes it is.

It's about land being taken bit by bit, region by region.

Just because it explodes in one tiny spot doesn't mean that tiny spot is what's really being fought over. It's just the MacGuffin.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (OtBmD)

101 Clinton used to humble brag about his golfing and golf scores. Then they had a pro-am at one of the PGA tournaments with Bush Sr, Ford and Clinton in a group. Both Bush and Ford kicked Clinton's butt and he was left making excuses. Glorious.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (NWEal)

102 [The Ban HammerTM was just overhauled, so please be aware!]

*spock eyebrow*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (yQpMk)

103 "Civil rights" is the nonsensical idea that "everybody must agree with me."

If you can do your dumb little hobby somewhere, then you're not being oppressed. People are allowed to call your hobby dangerous, sinful or flat-out stupid. If you can do it, then STFU.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:14 PM (OtBmD)

104 It's just the MacGuffin.
Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (OtBmD)

Hey, I learned to read with those things.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 03:14 PM (e1mEI)

105 I've never understood people who don't go to a church, but then want to rent one for their wedding.

Major hypocrisy.

It's particularly absurd for gays.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (OtBmD)

106 past 100 -

Costa Mesa CA went to court to bar the Coronaviroids from being "settled" there, and won an injunction from the district court.

Are these the people that Trump was pissed came back to the US after DHS told him they were going to be quarantined offshore?

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (kD8Fh)

107 CBD, you have the sear on the banhammer filed down to the point where it's threatening to go full auto. We are not the enemy.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (XxJt1)

108 The MacGuffin with cheese is a good breakfast sandwich.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (yQpMk)

109 Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (OtBmD)

church weddings are a rapidly fading quaint custom in my neck of the woods. The millennials are all about the barn weddings.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 03:16 PM (kD8Fh)

110 Just because it explodes in one tiny spot doesn't mean that tiny spot is what's really being fought over. It's just the MacGuffin.
Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (OtBmD)

I'd argue against that, at least in as regards the Crusades. Jerusalem is far more symbolically meaningful than anything in Vietnam was to the US. That is laying aside the harassment of pilgrims, trade routes, etc.

Any war, no matter which one we are talking about, has a lot of stuff as far as the reasons, be it historical, cultural, resources. The Leftist dream (or rather their degenerate argument) is that they are for this one thing or that. Religion. Oil.

I like and endorse your point. I just like to argue.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:16 PM (XyVor)

111 The English civil war was nominally about religion, but it was really about how the nation had developed two distinct factions which opposed each other in religion, in class, in style of governance desired. Resources was the least of what they fought over, intense personal hatred th as t the sides had for each other was the cause. And they called it religion.

It was a time much like today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:16 PM (q3gwH)

112 church weddings are a rapidly fading quaint custom in my neck of the woods. The millennials are all about the barn weddings.
Posted by: kallisto

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Foreshadowing their impending legalization of bestiality?

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (OtBmD)

113 The MacGuffin with cheese is a good breakfast sandwich.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

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I liked Merv MacGuffin at Arthur Treacher's.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (Y4EXg)

114 81
Show me a "war started by religion" and I'll show you a war over
resources that historians are lying about because they are insufferable
atheist bigots.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:01 PM (OtBmD)



Ok, Crusades?



Control of the trade routes from the Orient?



Control of access to Holy sites (which one could look at as a resource.)





Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:03 PM (XyVor)


They also used the "crusades" to attack Constantinople which was a Christian nation. But it was rich in "booty".

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (mpXpK)

115 102 [The Ban HammerTM was just overhauled, so please be aware!]

*spock eyebrow*
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2020 03:12 PM (yQpMk)

I think we should bring back the old usage. Example: The Ban Hammer was just overhauled. BEWARE!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (XyVor)

116 Well I sure hope they keep the magic virus out of Costa Mesa. Some good ramen places there, might be hitting one of them soon.

Never did follow it afterwards, but there was a disgusting and chilling story out of there back in the dark days of the affirmative action intern "president".

City council member was being harassed, seriously, by police - he was pushing some sanity on police pensions/pay etc.

A very nice, Third World, Weimar Germany kind of feel to it.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (El6T/)

117 I don't know if I should feel happy about Bernie's win or disgusted (and afraid) that so many Americans are willing to drink the socialist koolaide.

I am not as sure as many that Bernie will lose in November, if he's the nominee, just because I remember people making the same confident predictions about Trump.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at February 23, 2020 03:18 PM (d6Ksn)

118 https://moonbattery.com/graffiti-vandals-awarded-6-7-million/

Where else but in a Socalist nirvana can graffiti become art to be protected and on property not owned by the " artist"?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 03:18 PM (ZCEU2)

119 I don't know if I should feel happy about Bernie's win or disgusted (and afraid) that so many Americans are willing to drink the socialist koolaide.

I am not as sure as many that Bernie will lose in November, if he's the nominee, just because I remember people making the same confident predictions about Trump.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V

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Ditto.

And ditto.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:19 PM (OtBmD)

120 They also used the "crusades" to attack Constantinople which was a Christian nation. But it was rich in "booty".
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (mpXpK)

Also fat and lazy and was not hospitable to the Crusaders it was using for it's own ends.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:19 PM (XyVor)

121 112 church weddings are a rapidly fading quaint custom in my neck of the woods. The millennials are all about the barn weddings.
Posted by: kallisto

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Or "destination" weddings where they, and the wedding party, has to shell out monster bucks just to get there and do it all over again in seven years.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 03:19 PM (Y4EXg)

122 Many white people marched with MLK Jr.

Over time, institutional racism is economically unsustainable.


Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 23, 2020 03:08 PM (CTN7u)

Tracy Turnblat was instrumental in Baltimore's civiil rights battle.

Posted by: LASue at February 23, 2020 03:20 PM (Ed8Zd)

123 Foreshadowing their impending legalization of bestiality?



Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:17 PM (OtBmD)


I hope not!

It's rustic, and trendy.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 03:20 PM (kD8Fh)

124 107 CBD, you have the sear on the banhammer filed down to the point where it's threatening to go full auto. We are not the enemy.
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (XxJt1

(H. Simpson refers to electric hammer patent, calls attorney)

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 03:20 PM (e1mEI)

125 I think the war on terror is a one sided religious war.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (NWEal)

126 Why did Constantinople get the works?


Nobody's business but the Turks.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (dNzKv)

127 Aetius, at least there was a "please" appended.

We're Morons. We forget sometimes. It's nicer to be reminded with a smile than a cudgel.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (XxJt1)

128 [Clarence Thomas]


The web is a crude research tool, but all I found was Thomas saying that affirmative action isn't enabled by the CRA 1964 because it isn't mentioned in the Act. He did not attack the validity of the Act itself.

I'm going to wander out toward life so I won't be able to stick around for much debate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (gd9RK)

129 Or "destination" weddings where they, and the wedding party, has to shell out monster bucks just to get there and do it all over again in seven years.
Posted by: Tonypete

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If someone dragged be out to a wedding where I actually have to take the weekend off and rent a hotel room...

...I should be able to sue them when they get divorced.

Thankfully, my wife is a great singer, so people always want her to sing at weddings, so our hotel room is free.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (OtBmD)

130 For many reasons not providing general reassurance about America, I doubt Bernie would have much chance electorally in the fall.

And on a related topic, jeebus the idiotic "Bernie is transforming the Dem Party like Trump did with the GOP" crap from the Beltway lightweights is already beginning.

Bernie isn't transforming anything. And Trump hasn't transformed the GOP, barely at all. But such grandiose b.s. represents about the zenith of intellectual effort by 99% of the punditry.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 03:22 PM (El6T/)

131 Or "destination" weddings where they, and the wedding party, has to shell out monster bucks just to get there and do it all over again in seven years.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 03:19 PM (Y4EXg)


My cousin and his wife wanted to get married in Jamaica or somewhere and my uncle said, "fine. don't expect your mom or me to be there."

So they got married close by. Hardly anyone in my family would have gone to their destination wedding, we're not made of money.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 03:22 PM (kD8Fh)

132 127 Aetius, at least there was a "please" appended.

We're Morons. We forget sometimes. It's nicer to be reminded with a smile than a cudgel.
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:21 PM (XxJt1)

I just think signs with BEWARE! on them would be more effective.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:22 PM (XyVor)

133 You're kidding?! The banhammer is electric? Sort of like a cattle prod, huh?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:23 PM (XxJt1)

134 133 You're kidding?! The banhammer is electric? Sort of like a cattle prod, huh?
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:23 PM (XxJt1)


Tiny turbines turned by Hamsters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:23 PM (XyVor)

135 Speaking of Meathead, there was one episode where he was passed over for promotion at the skool he taught at for a black guy.

He whined to his boss and asked him how long will we have to have affirmative action and his boss said about 40 years or so to balance things out.

That episode was around 1975 so I guess times up!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 03:23 PM (Z+IKu)

136 We are not the enemy.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:15 PM (XxJt1)

Do you know how much time I have spent in the last two weeks cleaning up shit from trolls and other idiots?

No, you aren't the enemy, but there are people around here who love to test the theory that they are Ace's secret racist friends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:24 PM (dLLD6)

137 Barry had a handicapped permit for hoops.

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 03:24 PM (RuIsu)

138 Bernie will be rebranded as a compassionate democratic socialist who did more to fight communism and bring about the downfall of the Soviet Union than Reagan.

Bernie was CIA, his travels there were sooper secret classified missions.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 23, 2020 03:24 PM (dNzKv)

139 No, you aren't the enemy, but there are people around here who love to test the theory that they are Ace's secret racist friends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:24 PM (dLLD6)

What about people like you and me? You know, virulent anti-Semites?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

140 Afternoon

I got nothing but I hate the left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 03:26 PM (85Gof)

141 Arab-Israel Lovefests of '67 and '73. Wars fought over religion?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:26 PM (gd9RK)

142 You know, virulent anti-Semites?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

That's me! And I keep warning you people, but no...you don't listen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at February 23, 2020 03:27 PM (dLLD6)

143 Post-modern definition of civil rights: I, me, mine.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 23, 2020 03:27 PM (EgshT)

144 Arab-Israel Lovefests of '67 and '73. Wars fought over religion?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

I believe the Lutheran - Methodist casserole wars still rage.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (Y4EXg)

145 Arab-Israel Lovefests of '67 and '73. Wars fought over religion?

Posted by: Bandersnatch

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Everything about Israel / Arabs / Persians is about land.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (OtBmD)

146 This history channel is very amusing. Here is their 6 part history of the first crusade

http://bit.ly/2wBmf9q

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (yQpMk)

147 I just think signs with BEWARE! on them would be more effective.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:22 PM (XyVor)


https://stoatnet.org/danger.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (t+qrx)

148 Dems Still Dont Have Final Results In Nevada, Pete Buttigieg Alleging Irregularities


Lol. Hey buttplug your behind by 30 points

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (85Gof)

149 What about the "secret nazis" the ones the media wants you to see but aren't there?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (ZCEU2)

150 I believe the Lutheran - Methodist casserole wars still rage.
Posted by: Tonypete

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Casseroles are... say it with me: Resources.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (OtBmD)

151
What'd I miss?

Have we gotten an influx of Racist Mobys?


I'm just about Tha-a-a-a-a-a-at far from saying that 97.9% of racism on the internet comes from leftists trying to run false flag smears.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (9wmyx)

152 Arab-Israel Lovefests of '67 and '73. Wars fought over religion?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:26 PM (gd9RK)


Falafel.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:30 PM (zr5Kq)

153 Have we gotten an influx of Racist Mobys?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (9wmyx)


On some threads, yes. I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm not seeing because they're cleaned up before I can see them.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (t+qrx)

154 Everything about Israel / Arabs / Persians is about land.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (OtBmD)

So when Gaza was given to the Arabs they stopped launching rockets at Israel?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (dLLD6)

155 >>> 139 No, you aren't the enemy, but there are people around here who love to test the theory that they are Ace's secret racist friends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:24 PM (dLLD6)

What about people like you and me? You know, virulent anti-Semites?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

You two!!

Posted by: Veronica Sawyer's mother at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (0ReGO)

156 Everything about Israel / Arabs / Persians is about land.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (OtBmD)

for arabs/persians maybe. for Israel - existential

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (zr5Kq)

157 Falafel.


Hmm. If you'd said shawarma that would be worth fighting for.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (gd9RK)

158 What's this shit about banning people?

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (uEbPt)

159 So when Gaza was given to the Arabs they stopped launching rockets at Israel?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (dLLD6)


21 rockets so far today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (85Gof)

160 Have we gotten an influx of Racist Mobys?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (9wmyx)

On some threads, yes. I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm not seeing because they're cleaned up before I can see them.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (t+qrx)

oh, yes. we had an overflow of manure on some threads.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (zr5Kq)

161 Everything about Israel / Arabs / Persians is about land.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (OtBmD)

So when Gaza was given to the Arabs they stopped launching rockets at Israel?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

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They want ALL of Israel.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (OtBmD)

162 Oh because of the subject matter. Fine.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (uEbPt)

163 CBD, we know how much you do. The evidence is right in front of us every day. The HQ would look like Swiss cheese if you weren't here. But going straight to "Get out" just seems a little harsh.

Many times I've seen a Moron post a reminder of the hundred comment rule. We have your back, my friend. Rest easy.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (XxJt1)

164 Everything about Israel / Arabs / Persians is about land.

Posted by: RKae at February 23, 2020 03:28 PM (OtBmD)

So when Gaza was given to the Arabs they stopped launching rockets at Israel?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (dLLD6)


Israel hadn't relinquished enough land yet. So, rockets continue until Israel has given up just enough land. Which is all of it.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:33 PM (t+qrx)

165 Falafel.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:30 PM (zr5Kq)

There is a Falafel place on McDougal Street in the West Village that has been around forever. Hole-in-the-wall (probably 200 square feet), with great and cheap falafel. Open 'til 4:00am so the drunks can eat something before they go back to their dorms.


And they just opened a branch in Paramus NJ!

What is the world coming to?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:34 PM (dLLD6)

166 Legally, the constitutional problem began with the sloppy wording of the 14th amendment, which essentially is the amendment that rewrote the entire constitution in it image. There's an enabling element at the end of the civil rights clauses that says "Congress may pass any laws which are necessary to enact this" which right there wiped out all of the existing restrictions on federal power. That's why the CRA of 1965 is constitutional.
The 14th is where all the trouble with citizenship come ssf from as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (q3gwH)

167 Bernie isn't transforming anything. And Trump hasn't transformed the GOP, barely at all. But such grandiose b.s. represents about the zenith of intellectual effort by 99% of the punditry.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 03:22 PM (El6T/)

It's scripted bs to minimize Trump's accomplishments. What he did in 2016 was nothing short of miraculous.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (uEbPt)

168 141 Arab-Israel Lovefests of '67 and '73. Wars fought over religion?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:26 PM

Why does religion keep getting dragged into these property disputes? Because they are used as a motivator, like cheerleaders initiating a crowd frenzy.
Sorta kinda.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (e1mEI)

169 I've had this argument with people before.

Virtue by force of law is not virtue at all.

No one can even have this discussion these days, other than anonymously, because to suggest that one may be permitted to hold exclusionary ideals is considered tantamount to holding those views yourself.

And there is no worse label to have in today's society that "-ist"

You can parade in the streets of San Francisco with crucifix-shaped dildos and be thought less of a heretic.

When the man above returns, he will not be pleased.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (tfrVs)

170 I can't see the MSM/Dems/Deep StateBig Tech fraud and propaganda machines going into overdrive for Bernie like it did for Hillary. He, or rather his movement, really scares a lot of people that just like to play socialism. I lot of libs are going to have to feign support public ally while staying neutral in privately or (gasp!) even voting for Trump,

Posted by: Ripley at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (MxEKc)

171 And they just opened a branch in Paramus NJ!

What is the world coming to?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:34 PM (dLLD6)

Yeah but on the wrong side of the highway

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (85Gof)

172 Israel hadn't relinquished enough land yet. So, rockets continue until Israel has given up just enough land. Which is all of it.


I believe the "land" of Israel is not markedly different from the "land" of Lebanon. Coastal, arid, butt buddies.

Second look at religion?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (gd9RK)

173 Have we gotten an influx of Racist Mobys?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 03:29 PM (9wmyx)

On some threads, yes. I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm not seeing because they're cleaned up before I can see them.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:31 PM (t+qrx)

The daywalker threads have gotten a few in the past couple of weeks, and they change hashes, so it's been hard for Ace and the Cobs to find them and squash them. So, not sure how many there actually are, but they have become pretty fvcking vile. They've even socked a few regulars, which is even worse.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (x8Wzq)

174 Lurkers rarely break the 100 comment rule. True story.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (eAMlh)

175 Need falafel recipe.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (XxJt1)

176 Harry Browne of the Libertarian Party proposed the repeal of the 1964 CRA decades ago, and was thought to be a lunatic. Turns out he was just ahead of his time.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (xiOrX)

177
And they just opened a branch in Paramus NJ!

What is the world coming to?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:34 PM (dLLD6)


Have they a dedicated bridge between them just like the Palis do between the West Bank and the Gaza Rubble Pile?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (pNxlR)

178
Dems Still Dont Have Final Results In Nevada, Pete Buttigieg Alleging Irregularities

He is quite familiar with irregularities.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (aKsyK)

179 But going straight to "Get out" just seems a little harsh.


Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:32 PM (XxJt1)


Possibly.


But I have been burned on too many occasions to be complacent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (dLLD6)

180 What about endostrophes?
Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 02:59 PM (RuIsu)


Funny thing. I looked it up to see if that was an actual word and your post came in at number 6 in the Google search.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 23, 2020 03:37 PM (J9I4C)

181 Thanks to Trump, Gaza has lost and Israel has finally won. There's about 50 years of slow mopping up action to go, but the issue is decided. Gaza is now much like Snake Pliskins New York. Nasty and dangerous, but totally confined and impoverished.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:38 PM (q3gwH)

182 Trump is going to grind his opponent into a very fine dust. Have faith.

I forget which fallacy it is, but it is a fallacy to say "well it wasn't true when they assumed Trump was gonna lose, so I'm not confident that X will lose because they're assuming that about X too".

In fact it would likely be more logical to believe that if Trump was underestimated in 2016, he's probably going to be underestimated again.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:40 PM (uEbPt)

183 Shit about banning?

Well you can't see them now because CBD cleaned them up but mostly the ONTs lately have been filled with hate comments often to a standing commentator if not a attack at them.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (ZCEU2)

184
You people laff, but I hear falafel is serious business in the ME. And if you think (cold) wars did not start over who makes best falafel, and where it originated, think again...

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (zr5Kq)

185 Endorphins $9.99.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (Lolzb)

186 I believe the "land" of Israel is not markedly different from the "land" of Lebanon. Coastal, arid, butt buddies.

Second look at religion?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (gd9RK)


I don't think so. They wouldn't care if it were Jews or Christians or Marduk followers or martians. It's land, and it's right over there, and it's under someone else's feet. Maybe being a Jewish homeland makes it easier to get fired up about.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (t+qrx)

187 He is quite familiar with irregularities.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2020 03:36 PM (aKsyK

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (M3a0a)

188 182 Trump is going to grind his opponent into a very fine dust. Have faith.

I forget which fallacy it is, but it is a fallacy to say "well it wasn't true when they assumed Trump was gonna lose, so I'm not confident that X will lose because they're assuming that about X too".

In fact it would likely be more logical to believe that if Trump was underestimated in 2016, he's probably going to be underestimated again.
Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:40 PM (uEbPt)

If the "they" is the same, and the topic they're declaring on is the same, I think that wouldn't be a fallacy.

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (Y3R0d)

189 Or "destination" weddings where they, and the wedding party, has to shell out monster bucks just to get there and do it all over again in seven years.

Posted by: Tonypete at February




Destination weddings are for the bint for whom having an entire day and 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars spent upon her and a white dress to celebrate her are not enough.

Weddings are a bin enough inconvenience these days those having destination weddings should be shunned.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:42 PM (HALdu)

190 They just had the Miracle on Ice team at the NASCAR race in Las Vegas. They all tried to say "Gentlemen, Start your Engines" at the same time but didn't quite do it. It was mangled a bit. Show business is hard, guys.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2020 03:42 PM (g6OQO)

191 And there is no worse label to have in today's society that "-ist"
- - - - - - - - - -

Aye. Except all the Lefty-approved ones like femin-ist... social-ist.... jihad-ist....

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:43 PM (uEbPt)

192 Well you can't see them now because CBD cleaned them up but mostly the ONTs lately have been filled with hate comments often to a standing commentator if not a attack at them.
Posted by: Skip at February


when were there hate comments at an ont here?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:43 PM (HALdu)

193 Yes, I suspect that lefties are spamming the HQ with overtly racist comments because the Google/Big Tech monopoly will soon begin conspiring with domain hosts to deplatform blogs.

I understand why it's taken very seriously.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 23, 2020 03:43 PM (tfrVs)

194
Weddings are a bin enough inconvenience these days those having destination weddings should be shunned.
Posted by: not so


Why can't they just get married by Sheriff Andy Taylor?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2020 03:44 PM (aKsyK)

195 100 lost souls click here and get lost.

Trafficking ghosts for The Ace.

Intern # 7

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 23, 2020 03:44 PM (Lolzb)

196 when were there hate comments at an ont here?


there is a troll that keeps targeting a regular

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:44 PM (zr5Kq)

197 Skip @ 183

Now there's a legitimate reason for banning. I hope no warning was given and that the last sound they heard was the "swish" of the banhammer.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:44 PM (XxJt1)

198 I believe the "land" of Israel is not markedly different from the "land" of Lebanon. Coastal, arid, butt buddies.

Second look at religion?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:35 PM (gd9RK)


Or to put it another way, say they drive the last Jew into the sea. Do they become peaceful farmers, or do they start eyeing each other's plots and sizing up their neighbors at the victory party?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (t+qrx)

199 the Google/Big Tech monopoly will soon begin conspiring with domain hosts to deplatform blogs.


We just saw someone say that a comment from this very thread is already highly ranked on google. The future is happening very fast.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (gd9RK)

200 there is a troll that keeps targeting a regular
Posted by: runner at February

who when?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (HALdu)

201 192 Well you can't see them now because CBD cleaned them up but mostly the ONTs lately have been filled with hate comments often to a standing commentator if not a attack at them.
Posted by: Skip at February


when were there hate comments at an ont here?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:43 PM (HALdu)



Some dipshit has been showing up typically on the Saturday ONT threads bitching about MisHum's ONTs.

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (Z7lwY)

202 Two teachers were separated from a local Catholic high school last week when they married same sex partners.

As expected, the SJWs and the progressives and everyone who hate the Church is on board with the hate. Catholics are quite clear about Church teaching on this matter. Teachers sign a contract. Nevertheless, they are the victims when said contract is broken. The kids are used as pawns, marching out of classrooms, decrying "love is love!"

Such utter bullshit.

Luckily, the Archdiocese is, so far, standing firm.

Why is everyone else allowed to have their belief system, but Catholics are not. I think these guys did this on purpose, to seed discord, to cause problems.... to try to bully the Church.

Makes me so very angry.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (PkVlr)

203 Well you can't see them now because CBD cleaned them up but mostly the ONTs lately have been filled with hate comments often to a standing commentator if not a attack at them.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (ZCEU2)

Miklos seems to be a popular target.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (XyVor)

204 Wayne Newton's face looks like skeletor.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (w6f/8)

205 If the "they" is the same, and the topic they're declaring on is the same, I think that wouldn't be a fallacy.
Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (Y3R0d)

Maybe. Maybe not. Either way I don't believe it's a good reason to worry about the outcome of 2020.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (uEbPt)

206 If you wonder what we can do to change things, we need to rewrite and revise the 14th amendment, both in its civil rights provisions and its citizenship provisions.

The 14th required a civil war for it to be enacted in the first place (one of the three Reconstruction Amendments which rewrote the existing constitution) , and it will most likely require another civil war to rewrite it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (q3gwH)

207 Back to CBD's question - "Would America have moved past race as a primary indicator of social standing (and so much more) without federal civil rights legislation?". I don't believe so. A gut feeling.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:47 PM (zr5Kq)

208 Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2020 03:42 PM (g6OQO)

Puddle glum. Chevy's have no chance.

Posted by: Golfman at February 23, 2020 03:47 PM (M3a0a)

209 It's a mess, and I don't see much on the horizon that can reverse it.


.


Correct.

Posted by: National Divorce at February 23, 2020 03:48 PM (45Em2)

210 204 Wayne Newton's face looks like skeletor.
Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (w6f/

Has anyone ever seen Frank Langella and Wayne Newton at the same time?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:48 PM (XyVor)

211 Miklos seems to be a popular target.


Just because he draws a few trolls doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the Magyar Menace.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:48 PM (gd9RK)

212 207 Back to CBD's question - "Would America have moved past race as a primary indicator of social standing (and so much more) without federal civil rights legislation?". I don't believe so. A gut feeling.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:47 PM (zr5Kq)

See, I say the opposite. Also a gut feeling because we are speculating.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (XyVor)

213 I refuse to take this lying down!

Posted by: Zombie St. Pancake at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (EgshT)

214 Meh, the thing is that when the shift back to the Constitution and normal happens it is going to be quick and unanticipated by everybody.

It may be happening even now.

The democrats are reaping the whirlwind of intersectionalism and "undocumented" invaders with sanders winning.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (HALdu)

215 If an influx of trolls is endangering the blog I wish ace or one of the cobs would put up a post addressing it directly. Is there anything we garden variety Morons can do?

BitterClinger's post was an eye-opener. I hadn't thought of it in those terms.

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (XxJt1)

216 213 I refuse to take this lying down!
Posted by: Zombie St. Pancake at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (EgshT)

Rachel Corrie has spoken!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:50 PM (XyVor)

217 I don't think so. They wouldn't care if it were Jews
or Christians or Marduk followers or martians. It's land, and it's
right over there, and it's under someone else's feet. Maybe being a
Jewish homeland makes it easier to get fired up about.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (t+qrx)

Let's not forget one particular piece of real estate that cannot be separated from its religious significance: Jerusalem, in particular the Holy Mount, important for Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

There is the larger issue that in Islam, anyone who isn't Muslim is supposed to submit or die. Christians in Africa aren't being beheaded over land disputes.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 03:50 PM (nRNOc)

218 Well you can't see them now because CBD cleaned them up but mostly the ONTs lately have been filled with hate comments often to a standing commentator if not a attack at them.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (ZCEU2)

Gotcha. I missed that, sorry. Seemed at first like a warning to regulars, not trolls.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:50 PM (uEbPt)

219 The interesting question is how do you go back to the Constitution in a logical way?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:51 PM (HALdu)

220 So here I am sitting at a coffee house and a woman was sitting close by, drinking from her "Beto for Senate" cup. I am most appreciative that she broadcast to all the world that she is a very evil woman. (Well, I'm sorry, but she clearly supports a VERY evil man. Therefore she will never be able to claim to be a victim of evil. Rather, she is an accomplice.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 03:51 PM (kFLDt)

221 215 If an influx of trolls is endangering the blog I wish ace or one of the cobs would put up a post addressing it directly. Is there anything we garden variety Morons can do?

BitterClinger's post was an eye-opener. I hadn't thought of it in those terms.
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (XxJt1)

Actually an entire post would kind of work in the troll's favor. The point is to disrupt our ability to communicate and persuade. It is to get the people who wander in because ace likes some pop culture thing and start saying 'you know, this guy makes sense' and instead go 'gah, racism!' and move right along and then tell their friends about the racist blog they visited.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (XyVor)

222 See, I say the opposite. Also a gut feeling because we are speculating.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:49 PM (XyVor)



I can say that about 100 yrs after the Cicil War segregation was still okey dokey would indicate that on its own racism and prejudice refuses to die. Or at least go away.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (zr5Kq)

223 On its own.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (zr5Kq)

224 So here I am sitting at a coffee house and a woman was sitting close by, drinking from her "Beto for Senate" cup. I am most appreciative that she broadcast to all the world that she is a very evil woman. (Well, I'm sorry, but she clearly supports a VERY evil man. Therefore she will never be able to claim to be a victim of evil. Rather, she is an accomplice.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February



She has used condoms in her purse.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (HALdu)

225 Is it true that Cap'n Bill promises his cruise in 2020 will be free from coronavirus and Trumpite infections?
Imagine how awful it would be to be stuck on a Plague Ship in Venezuela stuffed with NeverTrumpers.


Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 03:53 PM (e1mEI)

226 *Civil War

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:53 PM (zr5Kq)

227 Is it true that Cap'n Bill promises his cruise in 2020 will be free from coronavirus and Trumpite infections?
Imagine how awful it would be to be stuck on a Plague Ship in Venezuela stuffed with NeverTrumpers.


Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February




The big question is why would sombody get aboard a cruise now?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:53 PM (HALdu)

228 *and refused...

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (zr5Kq)

229 205 If the "they" is the same, and the topic they're declaring on is the same, I think that wouldn't be a fallacy.
Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:41 PM (Y3R0d)

Maybe. Maybe not. Either way I don't believe it's a good reason to worry about the outcome of 2020.
Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:46 PM (uEbPt)

I wondered if you might have been thinking of the logical fallacy "appeal to authority." Nicely discussed here:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/rpaedot

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (Y3R0d)

230 202:Why is everyone else allowed to have their belief system, but Catholics are not. I think these guys did this on purpose, to seed discord, to cause problems.... to try to bully the Church.


They are allowed to have a belief system because they don't have one. Post-modernism, all truth is relative. All churches are going through this kind of thing, not just Catholic. It will only get worse.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (g6OQO)

231 The big hurt between moslems and Jews is that hatred of Jews is hardwired into the very beginning of Islam. Their foundational myth in the Koran is that Ishmael was the firstborn son of Abraham and beloved of Allah, but Isaac conspired against him and his mother, drove them out, and stole his birthIslam. And Ishmael's descendants , the Arabs, have sworn revenge against isaac's descendants ever since.

So hatred of the Jews is at the very center of islam, always has.been, and always will be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (q3gwH)

232 I can say that about 100 yrs after the Cicil War segregation was still okey dokey would indicate that on its own racism and prejudice refuses to die. Or at least go away.


Your gut feeling and my gut feeling should have lunch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (gd9RK)

233 I think that yes, the civil rights legislation of the 1960s was in fact needed as many governments were very keen to deny them to people based on pigmentation. As one obsessed with everyone being as free as possible and for governments on ALL levels being as microscopic as we can get away with, this had to be done. BUT I am willing to concede that as beneficial as this was, the pendulum has swung so far as to have society thoroughly reject individualism and embrace the group mentality (which leads to concepts such as group rights, which the Left and too many on the Right believe trump individual rights.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (kFLDt)

234 Stole his birthright

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (q3gwH)

235 $80 to watch the fight on PPV last night?


Watched it for free on YouTube today.

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (45Em2)

236 Why is everyone else allowed to have their belief
system, but Catholics are not. I think these guys did this on purpose,
to seed discord, to cause problems.... to try to bully the Church.



Makes me so very angry.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 03:45 PM (PkVlr)

A few years ago, World Vision announced it was going to provide benefits for same-sex partners. The usual suspects proclaimed how wonderful it was, but it took them about a week to reverse the decision and I don't think they've fully recovered from. Thousands upon thousands of faithful donors and sponsors said, "See ya" and found other charities to give their money.
Personally, I quit giving to them years before that. Still makes me mad as to why I finally pulled the plug.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (nRNOc)

237 On the other hand, bench interference - legislation from the bench, scares me.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (zr5Kq)

238 I can say that about 100 yrs after the Cicil War segregation was still okey dokey would indicate that on its own racism and prejudice refuses to die. Or at least go away.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (zr5Kq)

I don't think you will ever get rid of prejudice based on the other not looking like you, that is fairly hard wired into the human psyche.

However, black integration and society at large was moving upward and segregationists were starting to be called out (how else would there have been a cry for legislation or protests?)

The question is not unlike abortion. In a sane society, you would not need a law against something in order for it not to happen except in aberrant cases.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:56 PM (XyVor)

239 Your gut feeling and my gut feeling should have lunch.




falafel and shawarma

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:56 PM (zr5Kq)

240 The big question is why would sombody get aboard a cruise now?

There is no cause for concern.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at February 23, 2020 03:56 PM (EgshT)

241 I think the very fact that this country fought a civil war over slavery is proof that it would have died out on its own eventually. It wasn't going away fast enough for most people but it was indeed going away.

We seem to have a problem with patience.

Random thought...if the soldiers who died in the Civil War could come back and see what they wrought would they be so quick to fight?

Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:57 PM (XxJt1)

242 237 On the other hand, bench interference - legislation from the bench, scares me.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 03:55 PM (zr5Kq)

Which is why I do not mind seeing SotoOscarMeyer's comments. The court should be seen as partisan hacks only interested in imposing their views by judicial fiat. Then maybe, just maybe, someone will look at taking that power away.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (XyVor)

243 Actually an entire post would kind of work in the
troll's favor. The point is to disrupt our ability to communicate and
persuade. It is to get the people who wander in because ace likes some
pop culture thing and start saying 'you know, this guy makes sense' and
instead go 'gah, racism!' and move right along and then tell their
friends about the racist blog they visited.







Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:52 PM (XyVor)

Also, they can take screen shots of their posts and post those elsewhere on the internet to "prove" this place is racist.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (nRNOc)

244 I think the very fact that this country fought a civil war over slavery is proof that it would have died out on its own eventually. It wasn't going away fast enough for most people but it was indeed going away.

We seem to have a problem with patience.

Random thought...if the soldiers who died in the Civil War could come back and see what they wrought would they be so quick to fight?
Posted by: creeper at February



That is kind of an oversimplification

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (HALdu)

245 Seemed at first like a warning to regulars, not trolls.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:50 PM (uEbPt)

Unfortunately the trolls don't listen to warnings, and there are a few regulars who keep testing the waters to see whether Ace lives in one of those fabled compounds in Northern idaho where all is White and good and clean and pure and free of Jooos and Papists.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (dLLD6)

246 We may have moved past race, but the Left is incredibly evil and cunning (or at least their Master is) so they would have found another cudgel with which to institute their warped ideology.

Look how quickly they create a victim group out of thin air. Not five years ago, "trans" were a societal sideshow and afterthought. Suddenly they are the most oppressed people in history and are about to be featured in every movie and TV show.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (uEbPt)

247 Random thought...if the soldiers who died in the Civil War could come back and see what they wrought would they be so quick to fight?
Posted by: creeper at February 23, 2020 03:57 PM (XxJt1)

My buddy and I did a bit in college where the founding Father's come back to life today. And then start screaming.

THIS IS HELL! YOU'VE MADE A HELL ON EARTH!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:59 PM (XyVor)

248 The faulty engineering that placed the 14th Amendment in the Constitution mirrors that of MCAS placed in a 737 MAX.
Wild oscillations leading to instability and crash.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 04:00 PM (e1mEI)

249 However, black integration and society at large was
moving upward and segregationists were starting to be called out (how
else would there have been a cry for legislation or protests?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:56 PM (XyVor)

Yes! And the Black middle class was the fastest growing in the country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 04:00 PM (dLLD6)

250 Unfortunately the trolls don't listen to warnings, and there are a few regulars who keep testing the waters to see whether Ace lives in one of those fabled compounds in Northern idaho where all is White and good and clean and pure and free of Jooos and Papists.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (dLLD6)

That's fair. I hadn't seen regulars doing that lately but I'm not in every thread. I also quickly realized the subject matter *is* touchy so I corrected myself right away.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 04:00 PM (uEbPt)

251 Unfortunately the trolls don't listen to warnings, and there are a few regulars who keep testing the waters to see whether Ace lives in one of those fabled compounds in Northern idaho where all is White and good and clean and pure and free of Jooos and Papists.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (dLLD6)

ace needs to stop printing out those brochures.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:00 PM (XyVor)

252 I keep warning you people, but no...you don't listen.

It's all that maple syrup on the french toast causing tinnitus.

Posted by: DaveA at February 23, 2020 04:01 PM (FhXTo)

253 That is kind of an oversimplification
Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (HALdu)

WHAT ISN'T? Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:01 PM (XyVor)

254 The CRA has many fatal flaws (discussed in this thread), and had costs and damage that have to be weighed against the "benefits" (namely, compelling behavior that most would agree was normal and desirable). Dunno, maybe a very serious and very very laser-like restrictive public accommodation standard would "fix" most of the grievous damage done to freedom of association.

But it's really a separate question about "racism", attitudes, etc. As well as state discrimination/social engineering ("affirmative action").

Even doing a half-hearted version of MLK's character-not-color approach, and refraining from idiotic outrages like affirmative action, in the decades following the CRA would have yielded a very different current reality, which is what we're discussing.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:02 PM (El6T/)

255 Which is why I do not mind seeing SotoOscarMeyer's comments. The court should be seen as partisan hacks only interested in imposing their views by judicial fiat. Then maybe, just maybe, someone will look at taking that power away.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:58 PM (XyVor)



Only a fool would believe otherwise.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2020 04:03 PM (1g7ch)

256 WHAT ISN'T? Lol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February



Sure but why offer such an oversimplifcation?

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:03 PM (HALdu)

257 I don't think you will ever get rid of prejudice based on the other not looking like you, that is fairly hard wired into the human psyche.

You cannot get rid of personal prejudice - haters gonna hate. Institutional, codified prejudice is a different story altogether. And that is what we had.

However, black integration and society at large was moving upward and segregationists were starting to be called out (how else would there have been a cry for legislation or protests?)

Was it ? It was entirely dependent on "the kindness of strangers".

The question is not unlike abortion. In a sane society, you would not need a law against something in order for it not to happen except in aberrant cases.

Abortion is a premeditated act. Race is essence - what you are. Not sure you an equate the two.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 03:56 PM (XyVor)


Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 04:04 PM (zr5Kq)

258 Only a fool would believe otherwise.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2020 04:03 PM (1g7ch)

If I had a nickel for every fool we churn out, I would not have to accept Bloomberg's bribe for my vote.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:04 PM (XyVor)

259 Nood tacos.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:05 PM (Dhht7)

260 I need to figure out how to get my hands upon some cheetos without leaving the house.

Posted by: not so at February 23, 2020 04:05 PM (HALdu)

261 In todays pc woke world any difference of opinion from the party line is considered racist

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (85Gof)

262 Abortion is a premeditated act. Race is essence - what you are. Not sure you an equate the two.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 04:04 PM (zr5Kq)

I am equating the two in how you react to them. Each is an evil. Do you react as a society with cultural force or with legislative force?

Then the argument becomes whether the same holds true for murder or other crimes, which is a good argument.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (XyVor)

263 I wondered if you might have been thinking of the logical fallacy "appeal to authority." Nicely discussed here:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/rpaedot
Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (Y3R0d)

No not that one. It's the one where you think "at one time scientists thought mercury was safe to handle but it turned out to be poisonous. Now scientists think X is safe to handle, so that will turn out to be poisonous too."

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (uEbPt)

264 The dramatic, and horrendous, social implosion in black America coinciding with the CRA and the Great Society (divorce rates, out of wedlock birth rates, probably even graduation rates - though the evisceration of "education" in this period almost makes comparisons there useless) are by far the most important factoids in this area.

Not CRA, not social engineering.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (El6T/)

265 Nood tacos.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 04:05 PM (Dhht7)


Is it SFW

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (1g7ch)

266 I am equating the two in how you react to them. Each is an evil. Do you react as a society with cultural force or with legislative force?

Then the argument becomes whether the same holds true for murder or other crimes, which is a good argument.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (XyVor)

I would like to answer this, but need more time and CBD is serving tacos....maybe another time.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 04:08 PM (zr5Kq)

267 I would like to answer this, but need more time and CBD is serving tacos....maybe another time.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 04:08 PM (zr5Kq)

Of course, man. I have got to go out and get my oil changed (not a euphemism.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 04:09 PM (XyVor)

268 compounds

Hard to build a compound without drilling. A Vespa might come in handy inside the wall though.

Posted by: DaveA at February 23, 2020 04:11 PM (FhXTo)

269 You are mistaken if you think the war against Israel is about land. It is the eradication of Jews. Just like the holocaust was about Jews. Not their businesses or business practices or anything other than the fact that they are Jews. Muslims, Arabs can live in Israel but no Israeli can live in Palestine. There is a reason that the United Nations passses more decrees against Israel than any other country on earth. It is not about land. They don't care about human rights in North Korea or Somalia or Kenya or Venezuela. No, everything is about Jews. As Christians you can lament things being imposed on you that impinge on your right to practice your religion the way you want but it is not he existential threat that Jews face every day in Israel. The Muslim world does not want Jews to exist. Period.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:16 PM (QzF6i)

270 263 I wondered if you might have been thinking of the logical fallacy "appeal to authority." Nicely discussed here:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/rpaedot
Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 03:54 PM (Y3R0d)

No not that one. It's the one where you think "at one time scientists thought mercury was safe to handle but it turned out to be poisonous. Now scientists think X is safe to handle, so that will turn out to be poisonous too."
Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 04:06 PM (uEbPt)

Hmm. I don't know.

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 04:16 PM (Y3R0d)

271 sharon(willow's apprentice): You almost got willowed!

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 04:18 PM (Y3R0d)

272 Hilarious.

Bloomberg put up a pathetic billboard that said "Donald Trump Cheats At Golf"

Trump tweeted

"Mike Bloomberg cheats at....mini golf"

Presidential Troll Level: Evil Eddorian Galactic Overlord

Link to Instapundit:

https://tinyurl.com/uvror9q



Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 23, 2020 04:22 PM (T09ml)

273 Hmm. I don't know.
Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 04:16 PM (Y3R0d)
It's possible I made it up! Maybe tangentially related to the Causal Fallacy.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 04:23 PM (uEbPt)

274 That is why I'm only an apprentice. Sigh.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 04:25 PM (QzF6i)

275 On Codevilla's essay about the little law that ate the Constitution, in 2016.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/vcsrthu

Posted by: KT at February 23, 2020 04:30 PM (BVQ+1)

276 "I find most offensive the idea that Americans are incapable of change."

What I find most offensive is the notion that these commies are nominally Americans in the first place.

What can't go on, won't go on.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 23, 2020 04:40 PM (67XdO)

277 If the founding fathers could come back, they wouldn't scream. They knew their history well, and they'd shake their heads sadly and say "yep, it's Rome all over again. We were afraid of this." And they would know what was coming next better than we do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 04:56 PM (2w7OO)

278 OT: ButtJizz is demanding a "review" of the Nevada results from yesterday, claiming "irregularities".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 06:28 PM (Ewo9R)

279 Sorry if this is too off-topic but the Mrs. and I just watched the first episode of "Washington", courtesy of the history channel (dead give-away there) and it took a serious effort to watch the whole thing even though I revere him. So many red flags... Commentators such as Bubba, all the "Pulitzer prize winning historians", the GW portrait done in Barkey's image, etc. The actor with the sniveling face as GW. (reminded me of Dennis Allen from Laugh In). And that's just scratching the surface. Needless to say, not watching the rest. Total waste of one's time!

Posted by: jollyr at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (qSkIy)

280 Sorry if this is too off-topic but the Mrs. and I
just watched the first episode of "Washington", courtesy of the history
channel (dead give-away there) and it took a serious effort to watch the
whole thing even though I revere him. So many red flags... Commentators
such as Bubba, all the "Pulitzer prize winning historians", the GW
portrait done in Barkey's image, etc. The actor with the sniveling face
as GW. (reminded me of Dennis Allen from Laugh In). And that's just
scratching the surface. Needless to say, not watching the rest. Total
waste of one's time!


Posted by: jollyr at February 23, 2020 06:30 PM (qSkIy)


Its actually pretty good. You just have to ignore the parade of losers they interview. Some are ok.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 06:35 PM (9Om/r)

281 The real problem here goes back to the FDR administration. Roosevelt, like his grandpa, wanted to sweep aside inconvenient things like our constitutional rights; but unlike Teddy he didn't have the patience to go through the process of actually amending the Constitution, so instead he started appointing unjust "justices" who would lie about what it meant. Then when even that started to fail him, he threatened to pack the Court if it didn't start reading things his way.
The result has been about a century of illegitimate precedents which cry out to be struck down no matter who says we can't. Trump was elected, in my opinion, to be the bull who will rampage through that china shop and smash it but good.
If even he proves unequal to the task, we'll need to consider farther-right candidates. Rush Limbaugh anyone?

Posted by: jdgalt at February 23, 2020 06:44 PM (3SFo/)

"Woke" Is Nothing More Than A Rejection Of 2,500 Years Of Western Philosophy

This is a common theme in the posts and comments around here, but it bears repeating and repeating and repeating, because it really is an existential danger to Western civilization. You know; the best one yet devised.

It is a careful rejection of many things that have made us great, among them the Scientific Method, rational analysis, and, I think most of all, the simple skill of observation.

Woke Irrationality Is Undermining Civilization

It's a good article, worth reading in its entirety, but this passage encapsulates so much of what is wrong with our current culture. Here is one of the preeminent universities in the country consciously rejecting its own scholarship.

A variation on these ponderous themes is the kind of thing we recently encountered in an article published by Stanford University’s news service that seems a perfect example of largely symbolic idealism: “simple, but meaningful steps [people on campus] can take to reduce their environmental footprint.” Those steps consist of actions like converting lights to LEDs, updating aerators to save water, and reducing the use of disposable packaging and utensils.


Those actions are aimed at addressing climate change at the micro level, and there’s nothing wrong with them, to be sure. Certainly, small contributions can make a difference if they’re aggregated across a large population. But at Stanford, they seem to be missing the forest for the trees. At the same time the university encourages those baby steps, it embraces and encourages organic farming, which is wasteful of water and arable land. The university’s organic gardens prohibit the cultivation of plants crafted with modern genetic engineering technologies (including a groundbreaking one that was co-invented by a Stanford professor), and, incredibly, invited Vandana Shiva, an aggressively anti-science and anti-technology activist, to lecture to its students. Her rejection of modern agricultural technologies and encouragement of primitive farming methods in poor countries leads to low yields, vulnerability to pests and diseases, under-nutrition, and diminished longevity.

The dissonance between Stanford’s ostensible priorities—preeminence in science and technological innovation, and environmental stewardship—and its actions is a prime example of the schizophrenia of much of America’s liberal intelligentsia.

It's a theme that I have hammered in the Food Thread; caring for the environment and animal welfare are laudable ends, but when pursuit of those ends jeopardizes the health, and in some cases the lives of human beings, then those objectives must be subordinated to the larger and more important goal of the improvement in the human condition. Anything less is a rejection of the primacy of man, which of course is one of the points of Woke culture!

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1 They're anti-civilization and anti-human.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

2 Exactly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2020 12:18 PM (dLLD6)

3 Ha ha, your turn to get them Insomniac

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:18 PM (ZCEU2)

4 BRAWNDO!!! It's what plants want!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (q3gwH)

5 Just kinda posted about this downstairs, Barak fundamentally changing America, so a do over without freedom and liberty.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (ZCEU2)

6 Similar to your comments in food threads...Russ Roberts in his book "How Adam Smith Can Change Your Life" has a great quote on the buying local food movement. Paraphrased, he said, "We tried buying local once. It was called the Middle Ages."

Posted by: D G at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (hnwLO)

7 "Woke" is just a bunch of crap that the utes of today will look back on and realize how stupid they are and were and what a waste it was in their rush to the poor house.

Nothing will "Wake" you up faster than being over 40 and a broke ass chump.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 12:21 PM (Z+IKu)

8 A "rejection of the primacy of man" -- right, no more dominion over animals, 'cause like, we're just like them, man! The leftists are trying very hard to make this so through their so-called education.



Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 23, 2020 12:23 PM (0ReGO)

9

Woke is embracing stupidity. Woke is denying reality and saying whatever fantasy some lunatic wants we have to accept

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 12:23 PM (SpbMr)

10 My wife keeps telling me that I am the wokest!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 23, 2020 12:25 PM (Pgcou)

11 So you're saying wokeness is just another name for Marxism.

You're not wrong.

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2020 12:25 PM (ZfRYq)

12 These are the people that would rather poor Africans and Asians starve to death than get accesse to golden rice and other such sources of sustenance because "ZOMG GMO FRANKENFOOD!"

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 12:25 PM (NWiLs)

13
I have almost had nothing to do with any college or university for some time. Apparently the full scope of the political correctness disaster has to be seen to be believed.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 23, 2020 12:26 PM (t5m5e)

14 "Woke" Is Nothing More Than A Rejection Of 2,500 Years Of Western Philosophy



Or as Thomas Sowell put it:




"Much of the social history of the Western world, over
the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with
what sounded good."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 12:27 PM (SpbMr)

15 They're anti-civilization and anti-human.

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They're radical humanists who believe that the human soul, human spirit, and human freedom have no value.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:27 PM (+y/Ru)

16

I used to say, just a few years ago, we were living out
The Grand Inquisitor. I still think so.

The Leftists, who are really Fascists pretending to be Leftists, who have had no hand in developing Civilization nor technology, have decided that they can convince the World it would do better under their Rule.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:29 PM (TiELo)

17 "Woke" Is Nothing More Than A Rejection Of 2,500 Years Of Western Philosophy

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Woke is just another word for nothing left to lose
And nothing ain't worth nothing but sure ain't free

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:30 PM (+y/Ru)

18 It's a nice day to start again.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:31 PM (PUmDY)

19 Howie Kurtz media show is unwatchable without Mollie Hemingway. Today's big media outrage? That Trump had the audacity to point out that the jury in the Stone trial was tainted...the liberal reporter on from Axios was literally full of rage over it! the horror! When Mollie points out that if PDT hadn't pointed it out, Americans would probably never had been talking about the problems in the judicial system in DC - since the media was ignoring it - Howie just cut her off and told her what the real story was here...OrangeManBad, that's what!

God, what a retard Kurtz is.

Posted by: Boswell at February 23, 2020 12:32 PM (32YRo)

20 I don't believe Biden has anywhere close to 28% support in South Carolina. That poll is 6 months ago numbers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 12:33 PM (q3gwH)

21 "caring for the environment and animal welfare are laudable ends, but when pursuit of those ends jeopardizes the health, and in some cases the lives of human beings, then those objectives must be subordinated to the larger and more important goal of the improvement in the human condition. Anything less is a rejection of the primacy of man"

A more cogent argument for pure maple syrup on French Toast has yet to be made.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austerely Unwoke at February 23, 2020 12:34 PM (hRBhw)

22 Somehow I doubt the manbun sporting soyboy would have lasted long 2501 years ago.

Posted by: henry at February 23, 2020 12:35 PM (J3Rfi)

23 Willowed from the Book thread...and edited for more as my blood pressure rising caused me to forget a point...

I'm old enough to recall 2008, when Obama, encouraging his supporters in a Columbia, Mo campaign event saying '...we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.'

Also fresh in my memory is the hubris from the then WH 'occupant' that prolonged the Great recession, pushed unemployment to new heights--only to be exceeded by the spike in US debt. Wasted spending on alternative energy (Solyndra), cash for clunkers , not to mention the government-grab of health insurance. Fundamentally transformed enough so the Obama's added to their $1.65 million (2005) Chicago home, a 2017 home purchase in DC at $8.1 million and recently a 29 ac. Martha's Vineyard Estate for $11.75 million (reduced from over 14 million!). No wonder Bernie needs 3 homes-- keeping up with the Joneses/Obamas. Smells alot like a 'banana republic' socialism to me.

I've seen enough of this. Now, new bottles of snake-oil (cancelling student loans, M4A {O-care deux?}, NGD, gun control) are up for sale by Bernie and AOC (& Warren). But, we should trust Bernie to get socialism right this time- not me.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice...

I was born at night. Just not last night.

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 12:35 PM (Roy2Z)

24 Who needs a coherent philosophy espousing dignity and ethical behavior as the basis for a "social" civilization, when a socialist utopia awaits us here on earth!


But only if we elect Comrade Bernie.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (BiNEL)

25 Those actions are aimed at addressing climate change at the micro level, and there's nothing wrong with them, to be sure

Sure there is something wrong with it. That is what the liberals always do. They talk about "climate change" or originally "global warming" as if it is already a proven FACT. The actual fact is here is no climate change, or global warming. They are all either liars or idiots.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (mpXpK)

26 Glad I don't watch Fox news anymore

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (ZCEU2)

27 [Tried to quote the last paragraph, mu.nu won't accept it... you can read it above yourself]

In addition to misusing the word "schizophrenia," I think the article rather misses the point by a mile.

There is nothing incongruent between the "woke" culture, and the Gospel of Scientism. To say that places like Stanford are chock full of the historical achievements of science, is not the same as saying what currently passes for science is anything like that.

Indeed, I would be curious to know what the so-called scientists at Stanford are working on, when it comes to agriculture and all that. I'm assuming it's overrun with globall warmening tripe, and not at all fixed on making agriculture more workable for humans.

Because the overarching theme of all of this, the communist push that underlies it all... we humans are the problem, and they want fewer of us. They want to see a world without humanity polluting the precious planet, and they're pretty darned sure that whatever they can do to kill off as many of us as possible, that's the greater good.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (hku12)

28 We here believe that you should learn "2500 Years of Western Philosophy" from the back of comic graphic novels. A little light reading in your spare time. "Anybody can learn it." What could go wrong?


If you actually study that stuff, you can look forward to a career making coffee. All fucking week long, eight days a week. Without cease.

We suddenly rediscover it, a few cherce quotes at a time, when we have just had our ass handed us in argument. But then, we can burn a university.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (8IOEj)

29 Woke is another way of saying, " I'm a fucking retard who cannot survive without other fucking retards telling me what to think, say, and do. And if you don't agree with us then we must destroy you because you are not a fucking retard and that gives us bad feels. "

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 23, 2020 12:37 PM (myjNJ)

30 So many of the people pushing this "woke" stuff are, uh, new to western civilization, IYKWIM? I am all for immigration (with assimilation) but it seems so often when you read some an online woke rant, or read about some campus/industry woke scandal, you look at the bio of the one(s) who started it and see that they are a foreign student, immigrant, or 1 generation American (or Australian, Brit, etc.).


Not saying all immigrants or even majority of immigrants are anti-western civilization, or that this is exclusive to newcomers (Lord knows there are a lot of idiot woke Americans) just that there's a noticeable pattern when these woke movements and scandals pop up.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2020 12:38 PM (bDqIh)

31 They are DEVO!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2020 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

32 The Leftists, who are really Fascists pretending to be Leftists, who have had no hand in developing Civilization nor technology, have decided that they can convince the World it would do better under their Rule.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:29 PM (TiELo)


But they know in their black and shriveled hearts that their ability to reign correctly is a true fact, and after all only a few eggs are required to be broken in order make a perfect socialist omelet.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 12:40 PM (BiNEL)

33 Nothing sure/pure lyrics are great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:40 PM (PUmDY)

34 That Trump had the audacity to point out that the jury in the Stone trial was tainted...the liberal reporter on from Axios was literally full of rage over it! the horror!

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NBC News claims some Democrats are worried Trump might drag Bernie for basically being a communist!

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THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:40 PM (+y/Ru)

35 I was reading an article the other that presented data showing boomers as a generation and people who are global warming skeptics recycled more of their waste than the younger and/or "woker" counterparts.

Recycling be hard work.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 23, 2020 12:41 PM (cCxiu)

36 'Woke' is the latest weapon used for 'progress' against their enemies.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2020 12:41 PM (g6OQO)

37 Liberalism is a mental disorder. The worst thing it does is enable other, more horrible mental disorders.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2020 12:42 PM (l9m7l)

38 It's a perfect pre-fab philosophy for people without the knowledge or reasoning capacity to develop their own, a list of dos and don'ts that should just be blindly followed, requiring no understanding.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 12:43 PM (oVJmc)

39 Wokeness and SJW activism is simply the means by which incompetent people gain power and control over competent people.

And even the most competent amongst the woke will always be denounced ("cancelled") by the treacherous malevolent incompetents.

Posted by: RokShox at February 23, 2020 12:44 PM (fW/Hg)

40
The Left: Okay, Boomers, you built everything, and now it's time to let us take over and make it good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:44 PM (TiELo)

41 So many of the people pushing this "woke" stuff are, uh, new to western civilization, IYKWIM? I am all for immigration (with assimilation) but it seems so often when you read some an online woke rant, or read about some campus/industry woke scandal, you look at the bio of the one(s) who started it and see that they are a foreign student, immigrant, or 1 generation American (or Australian, Brit, etc.).

Not saying all immigrants or even majority of immigrants are anti-western civilization, or that this is exclusive to newcomers (Lord knows there are a lot of idiot woke Americans) just that there's a noticeable pattern when these woke movements and scandals pop up.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2020 12:38 PM (bDqIh)


I've noticed this too. Lots of people in print media, and maybe to a lesser extent, you see names like Grbazooba Mkbunga for bylines.

You see a lot fewer "journalists" with names like Mary and John, or Kevin. Granted, there aren't that many smart people named Kevin, but still...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)

42
I was reading an article the other that presented data showing boomers
as a generation and people who are global warming skeptics recycled more
of their waste than the younger and/or "woker" counterparts.
=====

I think enough older people have respect for waste that they would not lightly throw away either people or objects.

If you know some depression and before people, you will see that the idea of throwing away something useful is anaethema.

These little snowflakes have no earthly idea.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 12:45 PM (MIKMs)

43
I've noticed this too. Lots of people in print media, and maybe to a lesser extent, you see names like Grbazooba Mkbunga for bylines.

You see a lot fewer "journalists" with names like Mary and John, or Kevin. Granted, there aren't that many smart people named Kevin, but still...
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)


Meant to say there "to a lesser extent on teevee..."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)

44 From the article:

"The broader point is that, echoing Professor Sagan and Lord Taverne, we are increasingly sacrificing common sense and rationality to a kind of mindless idealism."

Oh it might be mindless at the edges, but its cultural Marxism at its core, and it is working exactly as intended.

Posted by: Flubber at February 23, 2020 12:46 PM (PQnIX)

45 They are like woke defective robots.

"KILL ALL HUMANS"

Their solutions always involve eliminating a hefty percentage of present and future humans. Bonus points for getting every last one.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 12:46 PM (e1mEI)

46

In conclusion:

There Will Never Be A Jonas Salk Among This Crowd/Generation of Leftists

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:48 PM (TiELo)

47 Somehow I doubt the manbun sporting soyboy would have lasted long 2501 years ago.

Posted by: henry at February 23, 2020 12:35 PM


Oh they had a place. For instance, the Tahitians called them Mahu and they took care of domestic tasks.

Posted by: Bert G at February 23, 2020 12:48 PM (OMsf+)

48 The Left: Okay, Boomers, you built everything, and now it's time to let us take over and make it good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:44 PM (TiELo)


Statistically, I bet there's a much stronger correlation between people who were NOT raised in two parent (bio father and mother) families and wokeness, than there is between wokeness and age/generations.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

49

All of these companies that go woke are too stupid to understand that they can never appease the mob. Once you give in at all you are finished because the woke monster will demand more and more until there is nothing left. So go ahead with the rainbow shit, global warming and other wokeness and just go out of business.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 12:48 PM (kWkNp)

50

Okay, you got all these idiots running around espousing this "woke" shit, so what do you DO with them?
Stick them over to one side, where they bother no one, change their viewpoint or kill 'em to allow the sane ones to administer things?

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2020 12:49 PM (KATBx)

51
There's not a Henry Ford among them.

There's not a George Washington among them.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:49 PM (TiELo)

52
This is the making of Idiocracy.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:50 PM (TiELo)

53 Rush has said it best, I think. The woke crowd is made up of all the people that were never taught critical thinking nor how to connect the dots.

They are easily manipulated, and will always do what they're told by their masters.

Posted by: Sooner at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)

54 Because the overarching theme of all of this, the communist push that underlies it all... we humans are the problem, and they want fewer of us. They want to see a world without humanity polluting the precious planet, and they're pretty darned sure that whatever they can do to kill off as many of us as possible, that's the greater good.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (hku12)



They believe in the zero sum game - kill off 90% and that is ten times as much for them.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (1g7ch)

55 Joe Biden held a rally in Las Vegas and his comments raised more questions about just how firm his grip on the narrative really is. He told his supporters, "Y'all did it for me! Now we're on our way to South Carolina!"

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Yes, Virginia, there really is brain damage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)

56 Okay, you got all these idiots running around espousing this "woke" shit, so what do you DO with them?
Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2020 12:49 PM (KATBx)


Carnival sideshow.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (t+qrx)

57 Recycling is a net money loser. Most of what we dutifully "recycle" winds up in the landfills anyways. I have a box of dead batteries...it's not easy to find anyone who will take them much less actually recycle them. There were some recent articles about this. Now that we are all mostly trained to recycle they want to keep us trained so they won't stop recycling programs even though there is little actual recycling going on.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 12:52 PM (WUuhi)

58 Okay, you got all these idiots running around espousing this woke shit, so what do you DO with them?

Buy them spots in Musks Mars Colony

Posted by: henry at February 23, 2020 12:52 PM (J3Rfi)

59 Okay, you got all these idiots running around espousing this "woke" shit, so what do you DO with them?
Stick them over to one side, where they bother no one, change their viewpoint or kill 'em to allow the sane ones to administer things?
Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2020 12:49 PM (KATBx)


Well, they're here, and you could kill them all, but that would get messy.

No, I think the answer is, preach to the next generation. Go back to the basics.

Start with the concept that a mother and father raising their children as married couples is an ideal that is worth shooting for, wherever and whenever possible.

There are lots of kids who haven't yet started to have kids, who know this well, because of what they are seeing in their own lives, and the lives of classmates around them.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

60 There's not a Henry Ford among them.

There's not a George Washington among them.

-
But plenty of Lavrentiy Beria.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:54 PM (+y/Ru)

61 Nothing will "Wake" you up faster than being over 40 and a broke ass chump.





Posted by: Hairyback Guy


Sadly, no. There are plenty of post-40 people who are willing to attribute all their many problems to "millyuna-as and billyuna-as".

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 12:54 PM (T6t7i)

62 There's not a Henry Ford among them.

There's not a George Washington among them.

But plenty of Lavrentiy Beria.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 12:54 PM (+y/Ru)


Stacks of Trofim Lysenkos.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 12:54 PM (t+qrx)

63 I don't believe Biden has anywhere close to 28% support in South Carolina. That poll is 6 months ago numbers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 12:33 PM (q3gwH)


The Real Clear Politics average on Jan 1 was Biden +19% over whoever was in second. The most recent was +3.7%. He's collapsing faster than a dog faced pony soldier

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 12:55 PM (kWkNp)

64 35 I was reading an article the other that presented data showing boomers as a generation and people who are global warming skeptics recycled more of their waste than the younger and/or "woker" counterparts.

Recycling be hard work.
Posted by: The Walking Dude

As in my primitive camping days. Always left the spot cleaner than when found.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 12:55 PM (MTxDQ)

65 "Yes, Virginia, there really is brain damage"

He's gonna make a great Presidential candidate.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:55 PM (Tnijr)

66 Rush has said it best, I think. The woke crowd is made up of all the people that were never taught critical thinking nor how to connect the dots.

They are easily manipulated, and will always do what they're told by their masters.
Posted by: Sooner at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)


That's true, for the masses. It's always been true for the masses... but it's not true for the leaders. They know damned well what they are doing, and are applying some of the most disciplined reasoning and critical thinking that is happening on the planet right now.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

67
The only population these people want to limit is the one that built the country and remembers what it is.

One demographic is taught they are a planetary toxin, others are paid to have eight children per family.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (t5m5e)

68 The woke crowd is made up of all the people that were never taught critical thinking nor how to connect the dots.

I know a public school "teacher" with whom I argued about critical thinking; his stance was that he taught critical thinking to his students and that's why their thinking was leftist like his. What he really meant by "critical thinking" was actually critical theory. He thought it was all the same.

Posted by: Bert G at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (OMsf+)

69 One of the most absurd things I've heard lately is Delta going carbon neutral.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (Tnijr)

70 I just woke up

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 12:58 PM (rpxSz)

71 For every mile of plane flight they could plant a million trees. Pretty soon the planet will look like f'n Endor.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:59 PM (Tnijr)

72 Recycling is a net money loser. Most of what we dutifully "recycle" winds up in the landfills anyways. I have a box of dead batteries...it's not easy to find anyone who will take them much less actually recycle them. There were some recent articles about this. Now that we are all mostly trained to recycle they want to keep us trained so they won't stop recycling programs even though there is little actual recycling going on.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 12:52 PM (WUuhi)


Landfills get a bad rap. Remember when we used to have garbage dumps? Those were nasty, but landfills are often, if you go anywhere near a metro area, the most pristine areas in and around a community.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:59 PM (hku12)

73

Yeah, because Jet Blue announced they were going to be 100% carbon neutral!

Solar planes, you say??

No, of course not!
Jet Blue will be purchasing the SCAM carbon offsets.
Here's the punch-in-the-nuts-line: Jet Blue says they won't raise fares.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:59 PM (TiELo)

74 69
One of the most absurd things I've heard lately is Delta going carbon neutral.


Everybody flap your arms, we're losing altitude!

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 12:59 PM (T6t7i)

75 I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM (X/Pw5)

76 I know a public school "teacher" with whom I argued about critical thinking; his stance was that he taught critical thinking to his students and that's why their thinking was leftist like his. What he really meant by "critical thinking" was actually critical theory. He thought it was all the same.
Posted by: Bert G at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (OMsf+)


Yes. Critical theory is not LIKE communism, it IS communism.

Plain and simple.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM (hku12)

77 I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM


I don't know that there is one yet. It appears they handled it worse than Iowa.

Posted by: Bert G at February 23, 2020 01:01 PM (OMsf+)

78
What's funny is I'll bet my left nut that the CEO of Jet Blue is involved in the Carbon Offset scam, therefore putting $$ in his pocket every time he "buys" an "offset."

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 01:02 PM (TiELo)

79 I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?
Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM (X/Pw5)


Final score:

F*cktardism 1, USA 0.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)

80 My idea for nanobots that separate the trash into its constituent parts will eventually become reality, so in the meantime it's ok to throw all of your trash into a landfill. You are in effect concentrating resources for future generations to mine.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 01:02 PM (Tnijr)

81 I wish I could get my wife woke this Sunday morning. Breakfast won't gonna cook itself.

Posted by: Slow Steve at February 23, 2020 01:03 PM (Pgcou)

82 Rush has said it best, I think. The woke crowd is made up of all the
people that were never taught critical thinking nor how to connect the
dots.



They are easily manipulated, and will always do what they're told by their masters.

Posted by: Sooner at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)



It is a generation of Red Guards. They don't know their ass from their elbow but they can squawk like well trained parrots all of the leftist talking points. And they flip the fark out if you question them on any of it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 01:04 PM (kWkNp)

83
That's what this Carbon Offset Scam is all about.

The rich and elite (politicians) are the ones who are operating the scam, so when they buy the offsets, it's coming out of one pocket and going into another. But when they Force Us to buy offsets, it's all going into their pockets!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 01:04 PM (TiELo)

84 And if we never develop the technology to mine landfills, the Earth will take care of the recycling part eventually anyway.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 01:04 PM (Tnijr)

85 I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?



Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM

I don't know that there is one yet. It appears they handled it worse than Iowa.


Posted by: Bert G at February 23, 2020 01:01 PM (OMsf+)

Here's a link to the LV Review-Journal's results page. I've found it's best to hit refresh every once in a while than to rely on their auto-refresh. Right now it's sitting at 1266 of 2097 precincts reporting:


https://www.reviewjournal.com/nevada-caucus-results-2020/

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (nRNOc)

86 One of the most absurd things I've heard lately is Delta going carbon neutral.
Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (Tnijr)


Chaining the passengers to the oars is going to make a really big comeback when flying Delta!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (BiNEL)

87 Someone should put together a video with Lenin's words on a Bernie video and show students and ask if they agree or not.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (ZCEU2)

88 the whole "Stay Woke!" bumper sticker/mindset/resistance du jour/retardation/whatever is right up there with
"When Clinton lied, no one died!"
or my personal favorite
"Where were you when the bridges blew??" (reference to GW Bush and Brownie at DHS blowing up bridges in New Orleans in the wake of the Katrina Hurricane in order to kill/remove urban dwellers because rayciss.

Posted by: secret squirrel at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (xyImL)

89 83
That's what this Carbon Offset Scam is all about.

The rich and elite (politicians) are the ones who are operating the scam, so when they buy the offsets, it's coming out of one pocket and going into another. But when they Force Us to buy offsets, it's all going into their pockets!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 01:04 PM (TiELo)

It's selling indulgences all over again.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 01:06 PM (NWiLs)

90 57
Recycling is a net money loser. Most of what we dutifully "recycle"
winds up in the landfills anyways. I have a box of dead batteries...it's
not easy to find anyone who will take them much less actually recycle
them. There were some recent articles about this. Now that we are all
mostly trained to recycle they want to keep us trained so they won't
stop recycling programs even though there is little actual recycling
going on.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 12:52 PM (WUuhi)

It is a proven fact that the recycling of residential waste has always been a money making racket. Here in or county that went to a program where you had to separate trash into different bins at the dump for recycling. If you hung around the dump and waited for a truck to some by to collect it the only thing that separate trucks came for was steel and aluminum cans. Everything else went into one truck and straight to the dump.


The citizens after a while got tired of it and the "special bags" we had to buy for household garbage. The county finally said OK, we will get rid of it but we will have to raise taxes to make up for the "loss of revenue". That was the the admision that the whole thing was a fraud.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 01:07 PM (mpXpK)

91 74 86

Hive mind!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:07 PM (BiNEL)

92 >>I was reading an article the other that presented data showing boomers
as a generation and people who are global warming skeptics recycled more
of their waste than the younger and/or "woker" counterparts.


I would imagine that older generations - Boomers, Gen X - in general are less inclined to use disposable items, where possible, simply because these single use habits, such as buying your morning coffee, buying bottled water weren't always the norm. As things have gotten more convenient, they've often gotten more wasteful/generate more trash.


And then there's so many items today that are built to be obsolete sooner - buying a new phone every year, upgrading/replacing appliances more often - this generates more waste/trash, too. If younger generations have been trained to upgrade more frequently, then they are generating more waste.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2020 01:08 PM (bDqIh)

93 And if we never develop the technology to mine landfills, the Earth will take care of the recycling part eventually anyway.
Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 01:04 PM (Tnijr)


What's really really funny is, people in the suburbs gnashing their teeth at the thought of a large landmass, some distance away from any development, with grass and trees growing meekly... wind whistling through... all on top of a heap of waste matter.

So where do you think they buried all that stuff BEFORE we came up with landfills? Hmmm???

That's right, folks, right there under you freakin' suburban house. You wouldn't even have to dig down that far (not that you're allowed to dig on your own property, but still...), that's where it is. Everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink, when the city folk wanted to get rid of it, they went a few miles out of town, and dumped it.

Where you're living.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:08 PM (hku12)

94
In my 2x4 town there isn't a lot of "woke", most live in reality. But in the last few years, you can notice it bubbling around the edges.

I can wear my MAGA hat with impunity and incur nothing more threatening than an occasional side eye.


We have a LARGE military presence so conservatism is prevalent in politics though the wokies are around, just not very loud about it.


Could this change? Sure could, it would only require one, maybe 2 elections going wrong.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2020 01:09 PM (KATBx)

95 Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (nRNOc)

Being a #Woke progressive doesn't mean you need to, or should, be a "competent" progressive!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:10 PM (BiNEL)

96 One of the most absurd things I've heard lately is Delta going carbon neutral.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:56 PM (Tnijr)


Microsoft wants to be carbon negative by 2030. Negative. I guess they are going out of business in 10 years

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 01:10 PM (kWkNp)

97 You are in effect concentrating resources for future generations to mine.

Posted by: freaked

Making aluminum from ore is very energy intensive so it makes recycling sense, as (maybe) does steel. Everything else is a waste of time. However, you are correct. We are simply making it easy for future generations to use more advanced technology to mine the resource.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 01:10 PM (T6t7i)

98 Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (nRNOc)

Thanks V!

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:11 PM (X/Pw5)

99 Could this change? Sure could, it would only require one, maybe 2 elections going wrong.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2020 01:09 PM (KATBx)


Slowly...

then all at once!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:11 PM (BiNEL)

100 New Economic Theory : Go Woke, Go Broke.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 01:12 PM (zr5Kq)

101 To my understanding carbon offsets are pollution all you want just pay off someone else who isn't.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 01:12 PM (ZCEU2)

102 75
I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM (X/Pw5)


The NV caucus results are on Wiki. Just "Bing" 2020 Nevada Democratic caucuses and you will get the results. Commie Bernie won big.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

103
I can't find any "final" Nevada #'s because of paywalls...what was the final score?

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 01:00 PM (X/Pw5)


Most sources are showing Comrade Bernie: 46%, Slow Joe: 19%, Buttplug: 15%, Squaw Liz: 10%, No Klo-mentum: 5%, Steyerfoam: 4%

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 01:15 PM (kWkNp)

104 To my understanding carbon offsets are pollution all you want just pay off someone else who isn't.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 01:12 PM


Pay no attention to the polluter behind the Carbon Exchange curtain!

Posted by: The Great and Powerful ManBearPig at February 23, 2020 01:16 PM (OMsf+)

105 To my understanding carbon offsets are pollution all you want just pay off someone else who isn't.
Posted by: Skip

Send all you monies to me. I promise I won't carbon dioxide anymore.

Or build nuclear weapons. Honest!

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 01:17 PM (vd8XM)

106 The Dems are not going to let a crazy old white guy who isn't even a Democrat be their candidate. They are going to let a crazy old white guy who has always been a Democrat be their candidate.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 01:17 PM (Tnijr)

107 It is a proven fact that the recycling of residential waste has always been a money making racket. Here in or county that went to a program where you had to separate trash into different bins at the dump for recycling. If you hung around the dump and waited for a truck to some by to collect it the only thing that separate trucks came for was steel and aluminum cans. Everything else went into one truck and straight to the dump.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 01:07 PM (mpXpK)

We used to have Mexicans paw through the recycling bins. What did they take? Glass and aluminum. Left everything else. Because it was worthless.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 01:17 PM (GRbI+)

108 "Could this change? Sure could, it would only require one, maybe 2 elections going wrong.
Posted by: irongrampa
Slowly...
then all at once!"

Change "elections" to "electrons" and that would still hold true.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 01:19 PM (Tnijr)

109 it's better for Gaia to make new glass than it is to recycle from what I've read....

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 01:19 PM (WUuhi)

110 One of the things I look forward to seeing in a Sanders v Trump match is exactly where people and states stand.


This is exactly what we should want.

Not a Dem lying about who and what they are.


May all the masks fall.

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 01:19 PM (45Em2)

111 I believe I (and most everyone here) understands what delta and JetBlue are doing with their "carbon neutrality" announcements. The airlines take a lot of criticism from the green freaks like aoc. They're too gutless to fight it, so instead they decided " let's buy indulgences,and then share our own passengers a surcharge for them, and then we can proclaim our Great Virtue at no actual cost! "

When companies start running morals based marketing, this kind of scam will be everywhere.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 01:19 PM (q3gwH)

112 It is a proven fact that the recycling of residential waste has always been a money making racket. Here in or county that went to a program where you had to separate trash into different bins at the dump for recycling. If you hung around the dump and waited for a truck to some by to collect it the only thing that separate trucks came for was steel and aluminum cans. Everything else went into one truck and straight to the dump.

Posted by: Vic

The plant I worked for was big on recycling the cardboard that we received in with our raw materials. When first started, we actually got money for it. Then we started paying more...and more...and...

The upper management wanted us to find an outfit that would pay US again. When told that wasn't happening, they were gobsmacked.

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 01:20 PM (vd8XM)

113 When companies start running morals based marketing, this kind of scam will be everywhere.

Posted by: Tom Servo


When?

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 01:21 PM (T6t7i)

114 Chaining the passengers to the oars is going to make a really big comeback when flying Delta!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (BiNEL)


With a big beefy guy beating a drum to keep the passengers in rhythm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax7wcShvrus

Coming to a Delta airliner near you.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 01:22 PM (GRbI+)

115 75
Bernie is doubled the second place holder (currently Uncle Joe).

The whole Nevada Caucus process is a bit confusing, but according to the decisiondeskhq website (free with registering) still shows barely over 60% reporting.

IDK is this delay usual, Iowa Caucus problems, or something else altogether (DNCe preparing to screw Bernie, again?)

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 01:22 PM (Roy2Z)

116 114 Chaining the passengers to the oars is going to make a really big comeback when flying Delta!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 01:05 PM (BiNEL)

With a big beefy guy beating a drum to keep the passengers in rhythm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax7wcShvrus

Coming to a Delta airliner near you.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 01:22 PM (GRbI+)

Captain wants to go parasailing after lunch...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

117 Most sources are showing Comrade Bernie: 46%, Slow Joe: 19%, Buttplug: 15%, Squaw Liz: 10%, No Klo-mentum: 5%, Steyerfoam: 4%
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 01:15 PM (kWkNp)

"Steyerfoam"....hahahaha.

Classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 01:22 PM (Z+IKu)

118 To my understanding carbon offsets are pollution all you want just pay off someone else who isn't.
=====

Trading Pokemon cards.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 01:24 PM (MIKMs)

119 "Anything less is a rejection of the primacy of man, which of course is one of the points of Woke culture!"

That's really it. It's an ideology planted in self loathing.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 01:24 PM (H8QX8)

120 So Stanford wants to go full Malthusian?

Okay, the students can only eat what the school farms produce. Nothing else.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 01:24 PM (Rdohv)

121 Steyerfoam is pretty good. Where's Blumburg in all that?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 01:24 PM (WUuhi)

122 Lol they are only reporting 60% in NV so far and Buttgig is questioning the results.


Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 01:25 PM (45Em2)

123 I love being anti-woke.
Idiots have no idea anyone could be.
It's fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2020 01:25 PM (9OMtu)

124 Steyerfoam is pretty good. Where's Blumburg in all that?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 01:24 PM (WUuhi)


I don't think Bloomers was on the ballot. He's sitting it out until Super Tuesday.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 01:27 PM (kWkNp)

125 Idiot liberals (BIRM) are drawing a bead on styrofoam, apparently not recognizing styrofoam is mostly air, with very little polystyrene in it. Put a little acetone on a piece of styrofoam and be amazed as it crumples to practically nothing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 01:27 PM (GRbI+)

126 Certainly the NeverTrumpers have to have a Bernie dossier. Don't they? Wouldn't they? How can they NOT!

I mean, a guy that old has to be pissing the bed. A little photoshop, and voila!

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 01:28 PM (Roy2Z)

127 125
Idiot liberals (BIRM) are drawing a bead on styrofoam, apparently not
recognizing styrofoam is mostly air, with very little polystyrene in it.
Put a little acetone on a piece of styrofoam and be amazed as it
crumples to practically nothing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Our waste sites are filling up with aerogels as we speak!

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 01:28 PM (T6t7i)

128 Captain Oveur wants his gladiators?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 01:29 PM (Rdohv)

129 townhall.com/grab the popcorn unhinged lefties are demanding msnbc fire chris matthews

Straying off the plantation is a no-no

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 01:29 PM (ZCEU2)

130 129
townhall.com/grab the popcorn unhinged lefties are demanding msnbc fire chris matthews


Dude is 74! He looks pretty good for that age, although his liver may be a different story.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 01:30 PM (T6t7i)

131 The DNC, media and IC will attack Bernie relentlessly this week.


They must stop him before super Tuesday.

They won't be able to but he is about to experience what Trump has for years.

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 01:30 PM (45Em2)

132 Our waste sites are filling up with aerogels as we speak!
Posted by: pep at February 23, 2020 01:28 PM (T6t7i)


LOL. Yep.

Next up: aerogels cause global warming! Also, net neutrality! And halitosis!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 23, 2020 01:30 PM (GRbI+)

133 Styrofoam is a perfect metaphor for Wokeness, lots of emptiness with just a smidge of lies to hold it together.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 01:32 PM (Rdohv)

134 Buying carbon offsets is just a good way to make somebody rich. The next wave will replace the rich carney grifters of today with the government pollution taxing bureaucrats of tomorrow.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 01:33 PM (e1mEI)

135 I think it was called oikophobia, by Roger Scruton.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 01:34 PM (JFO2v)

136 Guilt and shame were critical to human evolution, and tied to religion those human emotions helped civilize the western world by helping people avoid deadly and destructive sins. Modern secular leftists who are detached from western religions that embrace civilization (e.g. Judaism and Christianity) still feel guilt and shame, but they channel their guilt and shame into tearing down civilization.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at February 23, 2020 01:34 PM (d9Cw3)

137 I think it was called oikophobia, by Roger Scruton.
Posted by: rhennigantx

A fear of Greek style yogurt

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 01:34 PM (vd8XM)

138 Modern secular leftists who are detached from western religions that embrace civilization (e.g. Judaism and Christianity) still feel guilt and shame, but they channel their guilt and shame into tearing down civilization.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton

I got problems, and it's all your fault

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 01:36 PM (vd8XM)

139 When our county got rid of the recycling scam everyone's property taxes went up 30 dollars per year except renters. I imagine theirs went up even more as landlords used the "new" fee to raise their rent even further.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 01:36 PM (mpXpK)

140 I love being anti-woke.
Idiots have no idea anyone could be.
It's fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2020 01:25 PM (9OMtu)


I have a friend with whom I do NOT discuss politics, but not too long ago she was going on about how some movie she saw was a reflection of the awfulness of living in the age of Trump. Whatever.

So I made the rather innocuous statement to the effect that much of the awfulness of Trump was exaggerated and misguided.

I got about 2 days worth of "how could you" type comments. All I said in response was, essentially, I'll do me, you do you.

That was not acceptable.

Eventually she apologized. Sort of.

Oh well.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

141 A friend of mine lives near a lake in No Wisconsin. He has to drive his recycling to the town center about 10 miles away.
He mainly has bottles from beer drinking. So he's burning gas to recycle sand

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 01:40 PM (vd8XM)

142
>>Her rejection of modern agricultural technologies and encouragement of primitive farming methods in poor countries leads to low yields, vulnerability to pests and diseases, under-nutrition, and diminished longevity.

=======

These are the people that would rather poor Africans and Asians starve to death than get accesse to golden rice and other such sources of sustenance because "ZOMG GMO FRANKENFOOD!"
Posted by: Insomniac


========

They're death cultists. I used to think that was hyperbole.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 23, 2020 01:41 PM (G51Gf)

143 Guilt and shame were critical to human evolution, and tied to religion those human emotions helped civilize the western world by helping people avoid deadly and destructive sins. Modern secular leftists who are detached from western religions that embrace civilization (e.g. Judaism and Christianity) still feel guilt and shame, but they channel their guilt and shame into tearing down civilization.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at February 23, 2020 01:34 PM (d9Cw3)


Guilt, yes.

Shame, no. It's destructive, always. And frankly, it's probably the main reason why people reject religion as they do.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:42 PM (hku12)

144
townhall.com/grab the popcorn unhinged lefties are demanding msnbc fire chris matthews

=======

Yeah, for comparing Bernie's win in Nevada to the Nazi invasion of France.

They were okay with AOC calling CBP detention centers "concentration camps," though.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 23, 2020 01:42 PM (G51Gf)

145 I got about 2 days worth of "how could you" type comments. All I said in response was, essentially, I'll do me, you do you. 
...


The rules are they get to have opinions and you don't.


That's why I don't hang around leftwing people.


They can GF'd.

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 01:42 PM (45Em2)

146 Elderly neighbors across the street put out recycling and the big city trash can every week. I have a little city trash can and it is almost never full unless I'm mucking out. I have 1/2 a garage full of stuff I haven't unpacked from moving. Thankfully, the city wide "Spring Cleanup" starts the first week in April. Need to get it cleaned out before then. I actually found my sewing machine today. So, it's a start.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 01:45 PM (MTxDQ)

147 I actually found my sewing machine today. So, it's a start.
Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 01:45 PM (MTxDQ)


You should've asked; I'd have lent you mine. The first and last thing I made with it was... a sewing machine dustcover. Which has been on it ever since.

I can't remember why I got it, except that I didn't have one, and it seemed like a useful thing to have around.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 01:47 PM (t+qrx)

148 Lefties in general hate human flourishing and would be glad to see humanity reduced. It is evil incarnate.

Posted by: USNtakim at February 23, 2020 01:50 PM (0OmEj)

149 A few nights ago Tucker Carlson had a guest on who wrote a book about society. I wasn't really paying attention so I don't know who the guest was or what book he wrote, but the book was about china and how they are shaping our behavior. What I did hear, however, was that China realized that America feels badly about our slavery history, so they decided to exploit our guilt and cause racial friction. It makes sense, because BO ( before Obama),I don't remember racial tensions being so pronounced.

Posted by: Chillin the most at February 23, 2020 01:52 PM (lonOK)

150 They don't want fewer of "us", they want fewer of "you".

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 01:53 PM (RuIsu)

151 Pretty soon the planet will look like f'n Endor.
Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 12:59 PM


You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

Posted by: Amalgated Ewoks, AoSHQ Local #9 at February 23, 2020 01:54 PM (+Obm8)

152 "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it."

This is pretty much the issue. Those who remember actual tough times, those who built America, those who invented the technology to improve lives of everyone across the world that everyone takes for granted... are all dying or have died.

Those who are still around who remember or at least learned to appreciate and have proper perspective... are simply dismissed by ignorant millennials with "ok, boomer".

A question that would be interesting to hear millennials answer: "Can you name an invention you use that came from a socialist/communist country?"

The Left controls the schools from K-12 and to the universities and makes sure history is not taught. So instead of people realizing that the last 100 years have seen some of the most amazing technological advancements in human history to improve the lives of every person on the planet, kids and teens and young adults today are brainwashed to believe that humans are evil and we're all somehow worse off than we were in the past.

And it doesn't even matter if the majority of people are waking up to the fact that "global warming" and "climate change" are lies. All it takes for any movement to succeed is a few radical people in the right positions of power and influence.

It's depressing.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 23, 2020 01:54 PM (gWGi6)

153
SCTV "Lipschitz & Lipschitz"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtpYZV738as

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 01:55 PM (TiELo)

154 I can't remember why I got it, except that I didn't have one, and it seemed like a useful thing to have around.
Posted by: hogmartin

lol. I got mine for my 21st bday in 19blah blah. Made baby clothes, drapes, clothes, reupolstered furniture, and on and on. It's from Monkey Wards.

Need to oil and it and finish a project I promised someone.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 01:56 PM (MTxDQ)

155 remove an and.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 01:59 PM (MTxDQ)

156 57 Recycling is a net money loser. Most of what we dutifully "recycle" winds up in the landfills anyways.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2020 12:52 PM

Penn and Teller: Recycling is bullshit

https://bit.ly/2v9nyMw

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 23, 2020 01:59 PM (gWGi6)

157 I always refer to the Law of Conservation. It's states simply, that energy cannot be created nor destroyed.

This law applies not only to matter and the physical world, but helps explain why "shortcuts" in life have a cost, and why solutions to certain problems invariably lead to other problems. It's a good lesson to remember in business. I refer to it often. There is no "get rich quick". No legal scheme to squeeze energy out of something where energy has not first been put in.

If you have 7 billion people creating and consuming, it's going to leave a "footprint". This is unavoidable. And whatever you come up with to deal with that footprint - multiplied by 7 billion, it's going to leave a footprint of its own. To deny this is to deny basic reality.

The marxist envirolunatics understand this law, which is why their arguments are all lies and obfuscation. They plan to "get rich quick" but off of breakin your damn back.

In the end they are merely denying the right of human existence. If they throw us all in gulags and serve only gruel, it will have a very minimum "footprint". If only the elite 10,000 or so people in the world live like kings, it will have zero impact as long as the other 7 billion are locked in a cage. That's their logical conclusion. There can be no other.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 01:59 PM (Wge+f)

158 Ever notice that every five years or so they appear to come up with another concept or term who's actual only meaning is "Marxism"?

Progressivism: Marxism
Liberalism: Marxism
Political Correctness: Marxism
Environmentalism: Marxism
Anti-Fascism: Marxism
Intersectionality: Marxism
Wokeness: Marxism

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:02 PM (Wge+f)

159 Here in Northern VA, two counties and the city of Alexandria have stopped curbside glass recycling in favor of people taking the glass themselves to designated bins, otherwise they are told to just put the glass in the trash. The recycled glass is being used for road projects. More glass is being recycled now than when curbside was available, and one big reason is that cross-contamination from things like plastic grocery bags, pizza boxes, etc is largely gone.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2020 02:04 PM (nRNOc)

160 Nap time over

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:04 PM (ZCEU2)

161
And the solution to every problem, real or imaginary is _____.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 02:04 PM (TiELo)

162 They're death cultists. I used to think that was hyperbole.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 23, 2020 01:41 PM (G51Gf)

I was going to say they are ignorant, but I think that misses the mark. I think the big problem overall is insulation- mental, financial and emotional insulation from bad choices.

BurtTC about how his friend was injured by the very mild rejection of her cherished views. This is a common thing on the right: we have long defaulted to 'You do whatever the hell you want, leave me to do what I want.' So we insulate them from having to hear contrary views (not our intent, but that is how it works out) to the point that they do not ever have to examine them in any substantive way and when they do encounter any sort of contrary view, they have no way to respond except emotionally- they are hurt.

The principle extends to the Laboratories of Democracy, the States. The idea being, two states. Each starting out even. State A pursues one set of policies. State B pursues another set. State A fails miserably. State B prospers. The idea is that the people in State B will be happy and order more of the same. State A's people are supposed to say 'Hey, this is not working, let's try something else.' This does not happen. Instead, people from state A move to state B, state A continues to fail miserably and people from State A now in state B start voting for the same policies that wrecked state A. They are insulated from the bad choices they made in state A and since they never get a confrontation of how and why state A fails, they continue to make the same bad choices.

Business. A company that forgets that their primary goal is to provide a good enough product that people want to buy. They instead pursue stupid crap and let the company become overburdened with bureaucrats. Company fails. They ask for a bailout (instead of going out of business to serve as a warning to other business or, get this, changing their practices.) We give them a bail out. We insulate them from their bad choices.

The Live and Let live ethic has been a tremendous failure because we have not left people to suffer the results of their bad choices.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:06 PM (XyVor)

163 And the solution to every problem, real or imaginary is _____.

Whatever it is, I'm the deliveryman.

Posted by: Steiner at February 23, 2020 02:06 PM (JJDuU)

164 The Left controls the schools from K-12 and to the
universities and makes sure history is not taught. So instead of people
realizing that the last 100 years have seen some of the most amazing
technological advancements in human history to improve the lives of
every person on the planet, kids and teens and young adults today are
brainwashed to believe that humans are evil and we're all somehow worse
off than we were in the past.



And it doesn't even matter if the majority of people are waking up
to the fact that "global warming" and "climate change" are lies. All it
takes for any movement to succeed is a few radical people in the right
positions of power and influence.



It's depressing.


Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 23, 2020 01:54 PM (gWGi6)

There is an old book that explains in great detail our imperfect world, our imperfect selves, our horror-filled existence, and how to look and deal with it in a way that actually *works*. Take that away from people and it's a cakewalk to convince everyone there is evil all around and yours is the only possible solution.

The removal of God and Christianity from public discourse and our (true) collective mind paved the way for this in gold.

The good news is that same book explains what *they* are up to as well. So as depressing as it is, I get it and I handle it that bit better. This is what humans inevitably do because we live in a fallen world.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:08 PM (Wge+f)

165 Welcome to the WOKE generation:

I be graduated from colleredge with a degree in Ancient Vulcan Poetry and cans not finds a job except at K-Mart. I be owe $120,000 in college debt and cans not find a better job because the world is racist against people of alternative lifestyles taught in High Schrool. I be graduated from Stamford and it is Trump's fault I be cannot finds a job and gets married. How be that toaster thing work again ???

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at February 23, 2020 02:09 PM (qM84C)

166 townhall.com/grab the popcorn unhinged lefties are demanding msnbc fire chris matthews

-
Gulag the sumbitch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

167 The Live and Let live ethic has been a tremendous
failure because we have not left people to suffer the results of their
bad choices.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:06 PM (XyVor)

I think the greatest failure of live and let live is that it opens the door wide for those who do not want to live, but not also let.

I remember for 60 or so years our side would say "I don't agree with your opinion but I would DIE for your right to express it". And we genuinely believed it, too. And while we thought the other side was saying the exact same thing back to us, what they were really saying was "Cheers. Thanks, mate."

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM (Wge+f)

168 166 townhall.com/grab the popcorn unhinged lefties are demanding msnbc fire chris matthews

-
Gulag the sumbitch!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

The Revolution eats it's own.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM (XyVor)

169 Ugh. "who *want* to live, but not also let"

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM (Wge+f)

170 Chris Wallace has lost it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM (PUmDY)

171 Yell at me all you want, but the change in western civilization - meaning its decline from Independence, freedom, and liberty toward central control, strict adherence to irrational rules, and a duty to state before person - is directly connected to the rise of the female, and the men who fear them, in public life. Those qualities that make a family the solid and successful foundation of civilization are largely the province of the female/motherhood, but those same qualities are impossibly imported into public policy today; the results are predictable and destructive because a small family is homogeneous, small, controllable within small age ranges, and insulated from outside controlling influences.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM (AsjQP)

172 "There's not a Henry Ford among them.



There's not a George Washington among them.





Posted by: Soothsayer"


Yeah but plenty of Pavlik Morozovs. Thousands, maybe millions. So there is that.

Posted by: Ripley at February 23, 2020 02:12 PM (MxEKc)

173 I've read that turnout for the NV caucus was maybe 2/3 the turnout of 2016. Once we see the raw vote totals it may be that 50k voters pulled the lever for Bernie. 8k for Warren. In a State of 3 million, maybe 1.2 million are registered Democrats and I think that's generous. So Bernie gets a huge victory on the backs of less than 5 per cent of Democrat voters in the State? Is this enthusiasm?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (uM6CE)

174 My favorite, recent woke argument that I had was on the subject of power generation and the generation of CO2. After listening to her argument and how poorly grounded it was in facts and critical thinking, I pointed out that she should love living up here because there are 5 hydro plants within 20 miles of this place. Our local power grid is very nearly 100% free of carbon emissions. Of course, she does not love living here. Hydro plants are Bad because, um, they totally change the state of nature that existed here prior to the white Debils showing up.


Wokeness does not allow room for problems to be solved. In any way, shape or form. Wokeness demands a state of permanent grievance.





Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (sjdRT)

175 Guilt and shame were critical to human evolution, and tied to religion those human emotions helped civilize the western world by helping people avoid deadly and destructive sins. Modern secular leftists who are detached from western religions that embrace civilization (e.g. Judaism and Christianity) still feel guilt and shame, but they channel their guilt and shame into tearing down civilization.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at February 23, 2020 01:34 PM (d9Cw3)


Guilt, yes.

Shame, no. It's destructive, always. And frankly, it's probably the main reason why people reject religion as they do.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 01:42 PM (hku12)



Western culture is by and large a Guilt Culture.

Most failed societies are Shame Cultures such as inIslamic and/or Communist countries.

Guilt provides motivation for the self.

Shame is administered by forces outside the individual to force the individual to conform.

Look at the whole Woke nonsense and their Cancelling of Individuals.


This is why it's all Will to Power with the Left.

Their morality, such as it is, is might makes right.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (9wmyx)

176 So, it seems like a decent step would be to leverage the student debt problem to defund the Marxist finishing schools by forcing the schools to hold the debt.

However, it's the diversity Commissars in corporate HR departments that scare me. I'm not sure how we lance that boil.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (Wm5SB)

177 Just what the world has been begging for, a daily podcast and multipart documentary about Watergate.

They literally have one play in their playbook.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 23, 2020 02:16 PM (NdsWb)

178
Wokeness does not allow room for problems to be solved. In any way, shape or form. Wokeness demands a state of permanent grievance.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (sjdRT)

This is a good example. The do not want hydro because of reasons. They do not want nuclear because of the same reasons. They love solar, they love wind- For some reason, laying aside that solar does not work at night and wind becomes salad shooters for birds.

They are ignorant because they never have to sit down in the dark and wonder why the lights are not on because of coal, hydro and nuclear plants keep the lights on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:17 PM (XyVor)

179 No idea how ( and suspect they don't either) how the Bernie and Fauxahonas idea of free higher education works other than turn every university faculty into a goverment worker and costs are paid by taxes.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 02:18 PM (ZCEU2)

180 Guilt provides motivation for the self.

Shame is administered by forces outside the individual to force the individual to conform.

-
I've heard it argued that it was because Japan was a shame that their atrocities were allowed to happen. There was no shame in torturing and killing Chinese so . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

181 My unPC take on "wokeness" as a religion:

It doesn't emulate Christianity but rather Islam. Christians sin and their guilt is only washed away in the blood of Christ. If they fake repentance for the world to see, it is hypocrisy. Their internal conversion matters. In fact, Jesus told his disciples to NOT to publicize their good deeds, praying, fasting, etc. (Matthew 6) And they must love their enemies, which is the hardest thing to do IMO.

Islam is about outward appearances, just like the "wokeness." The Five Pillars are a public declaration of faith, praying in the proscribed manner, giving about 2.5 % to one's own community, fasting sunrise to sunset during Ramadan (but pigging out at night is fine), and making the very public Hajj once. Love your enemies? Hell, no! Like the drug-taking, fornicating jihadis of 9/11, you can indulge yourselves as long as you destroy the designated enemies of your "woke" crowd.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 02:20 PM (/+bwe)

182 However, it's the diversity Commissars in corporate HR departments that scare me. I'm not sure how we lance that boil.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (Wm5SB)

A company I worked at for 7 years. The guy who started it had built the idea up from nothing. Made a very nice business. This worked for 20 years. During a management meeting the subject of firing bad employees and keeping good ones came up. Someone made the comment that they would love to get rid of the dead weight, but HR was throwing road blocks. The owner got frustrated and yelled 'HR does NOT own this company.'

If you have to say it, they do. They always do. And they do not give a shit about whether the business prospers financially.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:21 PM (XyVor)

183 Nood. Franklin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2020 02:22 PM (XyVor)

184 I'm stealing "salad shooter for birds."

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2020 02:24 PM (MTxDQ)

185 I remember for 60 or so years our side would say "I don't agree with your opinion but I would DIE for your right to express it". And we genuinely believed it, too. And while we thought the other side was saying the exact same thing back to us, what they were really saying was "Cheers. Thanks, mate."

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:11 PM
-----------------------

So true. So depressing.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 23, 2020 02:28 PM (Dhht7)

186 So Bernie gets a huge victory on the backs of less than 5 per cent of Democrat voters in the State? Is this enthusiasm?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at February 23, 2020 02:13 PM (uM6CE)

Worked for me in South Bend!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 23, 2020 02:33 PM (nRNOc)

187 Also the core tenet of Christianity is "Because God loves you". The core tenet of Islam is "Because Allah said so or face the consequences, worm."

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2020 02:34 PM (Wge+f)

188 "8 A "rejection of the primacy of man" -- right, no more dominion over animals, 'cause like, we're just like them, man! The leftists are trying very hard to make this so through their so-called education."

I like to point this out to them occasionally, that if we are simply animals and morality doesn't really exist, then we have no reason not to murder and crush anyone who gets in our way, offends us or that we think are dumb. If we are simply animals, then you cannot provide a reason not to kill rivals without religious based morality and that is what the origin of our laws are.

Posted by: Silentbrick at February 23, 2020 02:46 PM (y/tEx)

189 Another point missing is that this new environmentalism sees humans as a pest whose life is not worth protecting. In fact most of them think we should be eradicated for the good of Mother Earth.

Posted by: Redinabluestate at February 23, 2020 03:07 PM (60MN6)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-23-2020

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Rare Book Room, Henry Charles Lea Library, University of Pennsylvania



Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), stumblers, fumblers, mumblers, and other maladroits. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which, if you're looking for evidence that we're hurtling toward a very unpleasant dystopian future, you've hit the jackpot.



Pic Note:

*No one* expects the Spanish Inquisition:

Henry Charles Lea, Philadelphia publisher and civic reformer, was also America's first distinguished historian of the European middle ages, focusing on the Inquisition and ecclesiastical history and magic and witchcraft. His library became a specialized working collection out of which Lea wrote his History of the Inquisition of the Middle Ages (188, History of the Inquisition of Spain (1906-190, and other studies including substantial work on the Inquisition in Spanish America.

All of Lea's books on the history of the Inquisition are available on Kindle for cheap.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

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"Yet somehow, those guys keep
getting elected."




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Page from a book about witchcraft from the 1400s

More photos from the Lea Library here



Trump's Books -- Part 2

As I said last week:

If I were a reporter assigned to cover Trump, the first thing I'd do is try to find out as much as I could about him. I'd try to find out what he thinks and why he thinks what he thinks. And one of the ways I could accomplish this is to find out what books he has read, what books he recommends and which books are his favorites.

I wonder how many of the reporters yelling questions at the president as he walks to his waiting helicopter have actually done this?

Anyway, I found this article that contains a list of Donald Trump's 10 favorite books. The author doesn't say how she knows this is the definitive top-10 list, so I'm taking her word for it here.

Last week, I covered the surprising number of books on the list about China. There are still some surprises left. Such as Ideas and Opinions by Albert Einstein

Topics include the meaning of life, wealth, personality, academic freedom, human rights, socialism economics, good and evil, and much more.

And then there's The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale, the classic self-help book that teaches the reader to

· Believe in yourself and in everything you do
· Build new power and determination
· Develop the power to reach your goals
· Break the worry habit and achieve a relaxed life
· Improve your personal and professional relationships
· Assume control over your circumstances
· Be kind to yourself

Sounds like President Trump has put a lot of this into practice.

Another surprise is Essays and Lectures by Ralph Waldo Emerson. I'm not sure what to say about this book or how to speculate why PDT might have liked it since I'm completely unfamiliar with the author and with the philosophy known as Transcendentalism.

The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli, is no doubt useful in the world of business as well as politics:

The Prince is sometimes claimed to be one of the first works of modern philosophy, especially modern political philosophy, in which the effective truth is taken to be more important than any abstract ideal. It was also in direct conflict with the dominant Catholic and scholastic doctrines of the time concerning how to consider politics and ethics. Although it is relatively short, the treatise is the most remembered of Machiavelli's works and the one most responsible for bringing the word "Machiavellian" into usage as a pejorative. It also helped make "Old Nick" an English term for the devil, and even contributed to the modern negative connotations of the words "politics" and "politician" in western countries.

Finally, The Art of War by Sun Tzu is at the top of the list of Trump's favorite books. I can see why. It's principles are general and flexible enough that they can be used in any human conflict or competition, not just military.

I downloaded a copy and glanced through it. I thought this was notable:

The 14 Deceptions:

01. pretend to be incompetent
02. disguise when troops are about to be deployed
03. when near, appear far
04. when far, appear near
05. offer the enemy what it wants
06. create disorder and strike
07. when the enemy is prepared for attack, prepare to defend
08. avoid engaging an enemy that is stronger than you
09. enrage the enemy into making mistakes
10. feign inactivity to put the enemy off guard
11. when the enemy is at full strength, tire them out
12. where there is unity, sow discord
13. attack where the enemy is unprepared
14. appear where and when unexpected

Are these not Trump, or what? I think he uses them all, especially numbers 1,6,9,13,and 9. Yeah, I said 9 twice. Because I think Trump really likes #9.

We should be really thankful that everyone in the MSM/infortainment complex are all so caught up in how super-smart they are so it will never occur to them to realize that if this is Trump's favorite book, then maybe they should read it and try to understand the principles it espouses to get a handle on how Donald Trump thinks and why he does what he does. But not only do they not do this, but Trump knows they will never do this, so he's not shy about telling the press what he's doing.

But if reading an entire book is too taxing, then maybe they should understand this famous Sun Tzu quote:

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”

Or, as Donald Trump would say, "the leaks are real, but the news is fake."



Who Dis:

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Last week's 'who dis' was Ava Gardner, and, judging from the thead comments, not her best photo.

Bookshelf Inserts

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You can see more here. Very cleverly done. The Bladerunner themed insert looked like it took a lot of work. (h/t Shibumi)



Books By Morons

The plot of the new novel by moron author A.H. Lloyd is based on a phenomenon not often discussed, namely, vampires in Michigan. In fact, that's pretty much the title of the book:

Vampires have a saying: life is good but unlife is better.

Dwight Emerson "Zip" Zimmer might find this out for himself - if he isn't killed first.

There he was, playing in a weekend band in Marquette, Michigan and trying to put his life together when a beautiful and mysterious woman approached him after one of his bar gigs. The next thing he knows, he's in the middle of a torrid love affair and caught in up in a bloody vendetta between the Vampires of Michigan.

Author A.H. Lloyd's eighth novel takes readers on a wild ride of nonstop action from the mean streets of Detroit to the shores of Lake Superior. Violent, sexy and wickedly funny, the Vampires of Michigan is a fresh take on the timeless story of boy meets undead girl.

In his e-mail to me, Mr. Lloyd did not mention whether any Yoopers were harmed in the writing of this novel.

The Vampires of Michigan can be had for a mere $2.99.

___________

Oh, and speaking of Michigan:



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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(h/t hogmartin for the photo)

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Moron Recommendations

Plucked this rec out of one of this week's rant threads:

Just finished a fascinating biography about the perpetually-indebted Jefferson and his family post-presidency entitled "Twilight at Monticello." I love that he was *proud* I'm having left the White House pooor than when he entered -- proving to his countrymen and posterity that he was neither corrupt nor in politics for personal gain.

Would recommend.

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 19, 2020 12:29 PM (HHmur)

It really is amazing how many of our congressmen and senators get very wealthy after election. It's like just living in Washington DC enables them to start soaking up money like a sponge. My favorite example of this is (now retired) senator Harry Reid, dirt poor guy from Searchlight, Nevada, got into politics and left congress a millionaire. Amazing how that works. I don't think our country will ever really be fixed until this phenomenon is addressed.

Anyway, Twilight at Monticello: The Final Years of Thomas Jefferson sounds like an interesting history:

Twilight at Monticello is something entirely new: an unprecedented and engrossing personal look at the intimate Jefferson in his final years that will change the way readers think about this true American icon. It was during these years–from his return to Monticello in 1809 after two terms as president until his death in 1826–that Jefferson’s idealism would be most severely, and heartbreakingly, tested.

Based on new research and documents culled from the Library of Congress, the Virginia Historical Society, and other special collections, including hitherto unexamined letters from family, friends, and Monticello neighbors, Alan Pell Crawford paints an authoritative and deeply moving portrait of Thomas Jefferson as private citizen–the first original depiction of the man in more than a generation.

Touring Monticello, which I have done, is a real treat, and I highly recommend it if you ever have the opportunity. I was especially impressed with Jefferson's alcove bed, that was positioned between his bedroom ("bed chamber") and study ("cabinet") where he got most of his work done. I'm not sure this is the most efficient use of indoor space, but it sure looked cool and I'm sure it suited his purposes.

The Kindle edition of Twilight at Monticello is $9.99.

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11 I read The Whisper Man by Alex North. This is a scary, well-plotted thriller about young boys going missing in a small town where five similar cases happened twenty years ago. The perpetrator of those cases is in prison, so who is the new murderer? A very enjoyable mystery.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (PevXk)

This one sounds pretty intense:

After the sudden death of his wife, Tom Kennedy believes a fresh start will help him and his young son Jake heal. A new beginning, a new house, a new town. Featherbank.

But the town has a dark past. Twenty years ago, a serial killer abducted and murdered five residents. Until Frank Carter was finally caught, he was nicknamed "The Whisper Man," for he would lure his victims out by whispering at their windows at night.

Just as Tom and Jake settle into their new home, a young boy vanishes...And then Jake begins acting strangely. He hears a whispering at his window...

The Whisper Man will cost you $13.99, about the same price as the hardcover and paperback editions.

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101 JTB, have you ever read any Edward Rowe Snow?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (Ki5SV)

I had never heard of this author, but according to his wikipedia page,

Snow is widely known for his stories of pirates and other nautical subjects; he wrote over forty books and many shorter publications. In all, he was the author of more than 100 publications, mainly about New England coastal history.

Mr. Snow was also a major chronicler of New England maritime history. With the publication of The Islands of Boston Harbor in 1935, he became famous as a historian of the New England coast and also as a popular storyteller, lecturer, preservationist, and treasure hunter. Forty years later, he was still publishing.

On Amazon, he has many seafarin' books, but few on Kindle. One that is, though, and which is very appropriate for this blog, is Pirates and Buccaneers of the Atlantic Coast

Here is a volume devoted exclusively to the buccaneers and pirates who infested the shores, bays, and islands of the Atlantic Coast of North America. This is no collection of Old Wives' Tales, half-myth, half-truth, handed down from year to year with the story more distorted with each telling, nor is it a work of fiction. This book is an accurate account of the most outstanding pirates who ever visited the shores of the Atlantic Coast.

These are stories of stark realism. None of the artificial school of sheltered existence is included. Except for the extreme profanity, blasphemy, and obscenity in which most pirates were adept, everything has been included which is essential for the reader to get a true and fair picture of the life of a sea-rover.

Bold, daring adventurers, whose deeds are still discussed from the far reaches of North America to the tropical islands of the West Indies, parade through the pages of this volume. There is hardly a square mile of sandy beach from the Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland to Key West, Florida, which has not felt the imprint of the buccaneer's boot.

Shiver me timbers! The Kindle edition is only $4.99. Arrrr!

Other titles include Mysteries and Adventures Along the Atlantic Coast, Storms and Shipwrecks of New England, and A Pilgrim Returns to Cape Cod,

...which was originally published in 1946, is an engrossing tale that chronicles Edward Rowe Snow’s 235-mile trek through Cape Cod that same year.

Owing to its historic, maritime character and ample beaches, Cape Cod, which extends into the Atlantic Ocean from the southeastern corner of mainland Massachusetts in northeastern USA, is a popular tourist attraction particularly during the summer months.

Filled with information on the maritime history of this area, with the author’s usual emphasis on the lighthouses, life-saving and shipwrecks, this book provides a wealth of information on the area.

This one is available on Kindle for $4.99.

Snow passed in 1982 at the age of 80.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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1 Foist?

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (Um2IM)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (arJlL)

3 Orson Wells?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (tT0V4)

4 Booken morgen horden

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (G546f)

5 Crap!!



**hurriedly looks for pants**

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (Um2IM)

6 Yay books! Is it Orson Wells

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (ONvIw)

7 Hey there my Book Wookies!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

8 Hey MP4 if you are around.

Read yoour post 2 weeks ago about the book "Ridin' the Rainbow" by Rosemary Taylor. I had previously read "Chicken Every Sunday", but had no idea about this other book.

So I sent for it, got it the other day and willl probably start reading it today or tomorrow.

Funny thing. When you mentioned that her father wanted the family to live on Easy Street. I grew up in Tucson and for a number of years I actually did live on Easy Street. Yep, it's an actual road there. But man, talk about a street sign that got stolen again and again.

Anyway, just want to thank you for bringing that book to my attention...

Posted by: HH at February 23, 2020 09:04 AM (mIJBI)

9 That liner note in the book of witchcraft appears to have been written by my ancestor,

the Duke of naturalfake.

It says:

"Pick up duck eggs and nematodes on way home for evil spell."

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 09:05 AM (z0XD8)

10 That's MisHum in the photo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

11 6
Yay books! Is it Orson Wells

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (ONvIw)

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Yaaahhh, the French make excellent wine, but thish California ssstufff ishn't bad.

Posted by: Orson Wells selling wine at February 23, 2020 09:05 AM (cfSRQ)

12 Nice Lieberry!

Silly pants!

Orson Welles before he became a fat ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (Z+IKu)

13
g'mornin, book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (/aKd3)

14 Orson Wells?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (tT0V4)


That's what I thought. It's the eyebrows.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (t+qrx)

15 Orson Wells is one Hollywood type I can actually envision having a library.

And, though not my typical fare, I enjoyed Vampires of Michigan. I see where you sort of set up an obvious sequel.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (ONvIw)

16 In his e-mail to me, Mr. Lloyd did not mention whether any Yoopers were harmed in the writing of this novel.
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Not in the writing.

But dere is a bit of carnage above da bridge in da U.P., eh?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:07 AM (cfSRQ)

17 Those pants! It's like a gaucho who still lives with his mom.

"Wear a sweater! It's cold on the pampas today!"
"Yes, Mother!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:08 AM (Dc2NZ)

18 Looks like Orson Welles, in his salad days.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:08 AM (H8QX8)

19 Those pants are fine, if they have no ass.

Posted by: An assless chap at February 23, 2020 09:09 AM (Tnijr)

20 Orson Welles is my guess too.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 09:09 AM (MmFTx)

21 But dere is a bit of carnage above da bridge in da U.P., eh?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:07 AM (cfSRQ)

Yes there is! And I did not expect the ending.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)

22 And, though not my typical fare, I enjoyed Vampires of Michigan. I see where you sort of set up an obvious sequel.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (ONvIw)

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Please email me the plot for this 'obvious sequel.'

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:10 AM (cfSRQ)

23 The who dis isn't Bloomburger.......

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 09:10 AM (arJlL)

24 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at February 23, 2020 09:11 AM (1CjJc)

25 Surely everyone here has heard the outtakes from Orson Welles doing the frozen peas commercial? If not: recommended.

I'm still working on the SPQR series by John Maddox Roberts. I'm up to volume X, and they're holding up quite well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPQR_series

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 09:13 AM (Ewo9R)

26 25
Surely everyone here has heard the outtakes from Orson Welles doing the frozen peas commercial? If not: recommended.

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The wine commercial outtakes are great.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)

27 OM for a weird old book look up the Voynich manuscript some time

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 09:15 AM (G546f)

28 The bookshelf inserts remind me of the Ann Arbor fairy doors, which the DNR mostly has under control. Infestations are rare these days, but it's still a good idea to have a home inspector check for signs of fairy damage before you make an offer.

https://tinyurl.com/u3dmvcv

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:15 AM (t+qrx)

29 Finished up "Little Women", which I adored, and will now seek out "Little Men".

I'm also reading "Battle Officer Wolf" by some hack.

Do comics count? I'm in Volume II of "I Hate Fairyland".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:15 AM (Dc2NZ)

30 Good morning all ... not much time for reading this week - prepping to replace some interior doors in my Tiny Suburban Cottage, and (more importantly) for the guy to come tomorrow to replace the garage door... we had to move stuff out of the way so that he could work ... and that eventually one of our cars can fit into the garage. The Daughter Unit tripped while moving a bag of mortar and bashed her knee on the concrete floor! I took a flyer last weekend and got the Kindle version of John Ringo's "The Last Centurion" which is scarier than it might have been, because of the corona virus flu. The book moves rather slowly, but the character voice in first person is interesting and convincing.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 23, 2020 09:16 AM (xnmPy)

31 Please email me the plot for this 'obvious sequel.'
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:10 AM (cfSRQ)

I'll have to do that, as I can't see adding spoilers here.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:17 AM (ONvIw)

32 I'm also reading "Battle Officer Wolf" by some hack.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:15 AM (Dc2NZ)

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By "hack" you mean "brilliantly talented but tragically underselling independent author."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)

33 The Art of War was a required read for a business class I took in college. Not surprised when Trump, or other business people, have read it.

Reread Hound of Baskervilles by AC Doyle. Still one of my favorites.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 23, 2020 09:19 AM (Aj6Tl)

34 > Surely everyone here has heard the outtakes from Orson Welles doing the frozen peas commercial? If not: recommended.

Someone has done an animation for it:

https://vimeo.com/68817558

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 09:20 AM (Ewo9R)

35 Once on the Tonite Show, Orson Welles was the first guest, then Robert Blake came out.

Welles stood up and moved over and before he sat down, Blake said


"MISTER Welles ! You make Wimpy look skimpy ! "

Welles replied

"I'm fat and you're ugly, but I can diet"

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 09:20 AM (arJlL)

36 > 28 The bookshelf inserts remind me of the Ann Arbor fairy doors, which the DNR mostly has under control. Infestations are rare these days, but it's still a good idea to have a home inspector check for signs of fairy damage before you make an offer.

https://tinyurl.com/u3dmvcv
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23


It's a fool's errand to try and root out all the fairies in Ann Arbor.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:21 AM (Um2IM)

37 The media flatly refuses to spend any time whatsoever learning what conservatives actually believe, what they actually think and how they actually live.
They prefer to fire bombs at their stereotypes of conservatives.
Imbeciles.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 09:21 AM (Uu+Jp)

38 Finished Northanger Abbey, which I liked just fine (4 stars on Goodreads) but probably not as much as vmom and a few other 'ettes who raved it up when I initially mentioned it. It was fine, and I really liked her comments on fiction within the narrative, but it just didn't flow smoothly enough to put it at the highest level. But that's not a put down by any stretch and I didn't mind reading it at all.

We're now on to Sister Carrie and already a few red flags have been triggered because it's looking like it might be some muckraking dogshit worthy of commie dolts like Sinclair Lewis over and beyond being set in Chicago. Maybe it'll get better and win me over in a Thomas Hardy manner (Saul Bellow liked Dreiser) so we'll see.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:22 AM (y7DUB)

39 Currently reading 'The Flight' by Dan Hampton. It is the story of Charles Lindbergh and his historic flight. I hadn't realized that he had gone to a Broadway show instead of sleeping the night before the flight, so add another 24 hours without sleep to the 33 he spent in the plane.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2020 09:24 AM (42uoM)

40
Those pants!

*****


Che Chic - a limerick

An Argentine commie named Parks
Wears those pants in the streets and the parks
You'll see him out on campus
Or when he rides the Pampas
A tribute to his hero-- Gaucho Marx!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 09:24 AM (m45I2)

41 Favorite books about music or musicians?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (PUmDY)

42
It's a fool's errand to try and root out all the fairies in Ann Arbor.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:21 AM (Um2IM)

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"When these are the men who populate this great campus, well, you realize why all the women here are lesbians."
https://tinyurl.com/sxgvfyj


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)

43 I had to look up Orson's bibliography, surprisingly it looks like he only wrote one book of short stories called "The Lives of Harry Lime". Well maybe not surprisingly, I never heard of any books he wrote.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (4thlk)

44 I finished reading Tony Bennett's autobiography.

For awhile now, I've been looking for a book..

you know what I mean......the kind of book that GRABS you by the lapels and PULLS you IN !

This wasn't it.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (arJlL)

45 There is hardly a square mile of sandy beach from the Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland to Key West, Florida, which has not felt the imprint of the buccaneer's boot.

And now another pirate has landed on the Vineyard's coast.

Posted by: Manufactured News Network: at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (Ndje9)

46 Favorite books about music or musicians?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (PUmDY)


The Music of Erich Zann

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (t+qrx)

47 The Music of Erich Zann

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (t+qrx)

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Technically a short story, but we'll allow it.

Posted by: The Elder Gods at February 23, 2020 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)

48 > "When these are the men who populate this great campus, well, you realize why all the women here are lesbians."
https://tinyurl.com/sxgvfyj


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)



ROFLMAO

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:29 AM (Um2IM)

49 I'm currently listening to an audiobook by Alan Pinkerton. Yeah, the guy who founded the world's first private detective agency, wrote a couple of books. Its supposedly about an actual case, with changes to names and locations, and it reads like notes about a case for the most part. It was a bit dry at first but there are some pretty hilarious bits in it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2020 09:29 AM (KZzsI)

50
[i[It's a fool's errand to try and root out all the fairies in Ann Arbor.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 23, 2020 09:21 AM

they're a protected / privileged class in The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2020 09:29 AM (/aKd3)

51 The Music of Erich Zann

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (t+qrx)

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Technically a short story, but we'll allow it.
Posted by: The Elder Gods at February 23, 2020 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)


Sonny's Blues by James Baldwin

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (y7DUB)

52 Love the bookshelf inserts. I saw some a few years back made by a Japanese artist, Mondo is his name I think. He never got around to selling them overseas, sadly.

Reading Tom Holland's Dynasty, the Rise and Fall of the House of Caesar. I'm not a huge fan of his somewhat circular style of writing, and it doesn't help that everyone in the Caesar train has some variation of about six names: Julius, Antony, Agrippa, Livia, Octavius, Lucius. I have to keep flipping back to the family tree to see exactly who the author is referring to at any given moment. I will endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (JRXet)

53 "When these are the men who populate this great campus, well, you realize why all the women here are lesbians."
https://tinyurl.com/sxgvfyj
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)


It never gets old.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (t+qrx)

54 Anyway, just want to thank you for bringing that book to my attention...
Posted by: HH at February 23, 2020 09:04 AM (mIJBI)


My pleasure. I'm glad you liked it.

And since that is the great Orson up top, allow me to recommend My Lunches With Orson: Conversations Between Henry Jaglom and Orson Welles.

Jaglom is a director (A Safe Place, Last Summer in the Hamptons), who would meet Welles regularly for lunch at Ma Mason in Hollywood, and would tape their conversations as they discussed Welles' problems finding a financier or his impressions of people or events in his past.

It's very inside baseball, and you have to be either a Welles fan or a Hollywood obsessive to really enjoy the book, but there it is.

https://tinyurl.com/ruv9lae

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (Ki5SV)

55 17 Those pants! It's like a gaucho who still lives with his mom.
"Wear a sweater! It's cold on the pampas today!"
"Yes, Mother!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:08 AM (Dc2NZ)


See, your snark about the ugly pants are always better than mine.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (eA950)

56 You laugh, but Naugas have been hunted to near extinction in Argentina to supply the corrupt Naugahyde pants industry.

Posted by: The Society For The Prevention Of Naugahyde Pants at February 23, 2020 09:31 AM (Tnijr)

57 Orson Welles!!

I hope POTUS not only wipes the floor with Breadline Bernie, but the entire Democrat Party. Then exacts a groveling apology from Cap'n Bill and the Rick Wilson. Punks.

Posted by: jmel at February 23, 2020 09:32 AM (OeWgo)

58 "It is the story of Charles Lindbergh and his historic flight."


You should read the books he wrote. With the help of his wife he was a great writer. His last book "Autobiography of Values" is probably his best work and insight into his mind.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:32 AM (4thlk)

59 "When these are the men who populate this great campus, well, you realize why all the women here are lesbians."
https://tinyurl.com/sxgvfyj
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)
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M Blow Glue!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

60 I was surprised to see Iowa has more delegates than Nevada.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:34 AM (PUmDY)

61 Mrs Bernie Sanders as flotus. I would rather Yoko Ono.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:36 AM (PUmDY)

62 52
Love the bookshelf inserts. I saw some a few years back made by a
Japanese artist, Mondo is his name I think. He never got around to
selling them overseas, sadly.



Posted by: squeakywheel at February 23, 2020 09:30 AM (JRXet)

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Someone is going to have to explain what an 'bookshelf insert' actually is.

It looks like it uses space that belongs to books. WTF.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)

63 I'm not a huge fan of his somewhat circular style of writing, and it doesn't help that everyone in the Caesar train has some variation of about six names: Julius, Antony, Agrippa, Livia, Octavius, Lucius
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The Romans suffered from a dearth of proper names. If you had a lot of kids, you'd wind up calling the later ones "Fifth", "Sixth", "Seventh", etc.

Women had it worse. They were typically just given the feminine version of the clan name ("Julia", "Octavia"), and, if there were sisters, simply called "Older" or "Younger".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 45th Carnival Barking Clowns at February 23, 2020 09:37 AM (jW9oF)

64 I read a very good first novel, Miracle Creek, by Angie Kim. It is a courtroom thriller with many twists and turns. Interwoven with the courtroom proceedings is the story of and immigrant family from Korea. The two come together in a conclusion that had me guessing right to the end. I hope Ms. Kim follows this up with a second book in the near future. The woman can write.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 23, 2020 09:37 AM (PevXk)

65 Favorite books about music or musicians?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (PUmDY)


Headed for the Blues: A Memoir with Ten Stories - Josef Skvorecky

Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues - Elijah Wald

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:37 AM (y7DUB)

66 Mrs Bernie Sanders as flotus. I would rather Yoko Ono.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:36 AM (PUmDY)


The White House would end up being repossessed.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:37 AM (t+qrx)

67 Regarding Jefferson's post-Presidency financial mess:

He tried to farm his way out of it, instead of law practicing his way out of it!

A world famous former POTUS would have had no problem whatsoever finding clients who wanted top shelf legal representation before the brand new, infant federal courts.

That Jefferson didn't see the obvious way out of his money troubles has always amazed & fascinated me.

Did I mention "obvious"?

Trump's book list doesn't interest or impress me. I love the man, but whoops, there it is. Where are the classics of world literature? Where are Burke & Adam Smith?

On another topic entirely, I'm uneasy about Trump going to India-- for a 14-mile motorcade through throngs of people! I hope the Secret Service brings their A game. India has Islamic terrorists aplenty. And probably more assassinated national leaders than anybody.

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:38 AM (Cssks)

68 Favorite books about music or musicians?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (PUmDY)


One of my many, many regrets is that I can neither read music nor play an instrument. But I have three books I like: Shaw on Music, which is a collection of critical essays / reviews he did during the 1880s - 1890s;

Arthur Jacobs' Arthur Sullivan: A Victorian Musician, because I adore Gilbert and Sullivan;

and James Hamilton-Patterson's Beethoven's Eroica: The First Great Romantic Symphony because that is my favorite piece of music.
and

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2020 09:38 AM (Ki5SV)

69 It would be another co-presidency.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:39 AM (PUmDY)

70 I'm listening to an Audible book called The Dead Drink First by Dale Maharidge.
It's about the author's search for the remains of Humphrey Mulligan, a marine who died in the WWII battle of Okinawa.
The search was spurred because of a picture his father had of himself and Mulligan.
Along the way he talks about PTSD, particularly that caused by concussive brain injuries.
I find the book quite moving.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 23, 2020 09:39 AM (Uu+Jp)

71 Yes, that's Orson Welles.

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:40 AM (Cssks)

72 This week I read "Money in the Morgue." This is a mystery set in New Zealand during WWII, begun by author Ngaio Marsh (her detective is Roderick Alleyn of Scotland Yard; he was assigned to New Zealand during the war). Somebody else took her notes and finished the book. It was...okay.

Complaints: far too many run on sentences. I think the author never heard of the semicolon. Also, the detective just can't quit quoting Shakespeare. The action takes place on midsummer's night, but all right already, two references would have been enough. And lastly the plot depends on underground tunnels which seem to have an infinite number of entrances to fit the plot. I couldn't keep it straight.

That said, the characterizations were excellent and some Marsh is better than none at all. If you are a Golden Age mystery fan I'd probably recommend it, otherwise not.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 23, 2020 09:40 AM (oW/8k)

73 GM Roonz and Roonettez! I haven't been reading much lately as I have been model building instead. And on that note, those little book nook things have really piqued (excited by challenge) my interest.
Mrs Hades is a dragon lover, in which she will read almost anything that has dragons in it. In fact one of my T-TRAK modules (model trains) has on it a dragon cave, complete with pile of gold. And so, I am contemplating a dragon cave with a snoozing dragon atop a pile of, not gold, but books, with bookshelves lining the walls and book piles here and there.
And maybe, one of these days, I'll read a book.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 09:40 AM (ZXnzo)

74 You should read the books he wrote. With the help of his wife he was a great writer. His last book "Autobiography of Values" is probably his best work and insight into his mind.
Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:32 AM (4thlk)

Anne Morrow Lindbergh actually wrote some good stuff. I remember my roommate having to read one of her autobiographical pieces, and not loving it, but about 10 years ago I started looking for some nice things I missed type books and read a few. I can see how she would have helped Charles write his pieces.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:40 AM (ONvIw)

75 66 Mrs Bernie Sanders as flotus. I would rather Yoko Ono.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:36 AM (PUmDY)


I was thinking that maybe it would be salutary for Sanders to win. It would finally ruin Socialism in the minds of many Americans.

But then I figured, no, that wouldn't happen. They'd just say, "next time we'll get it right. Next time, with the right person, and more power, we'll make it right."

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:41 AM (H8QX8)

76 OK, hubby asked me to solicit comments on a book both of us recently read: "My Father the Pornographer" by Christopher Offutt, son of noted sci-fi/fantasy/porn writer Andrew J. Offutt.

Years ago hubby read some of the elder Offutt's sword and sorcery books and was kind of a fan of them. Until recently he had the impression that Offutt was an heroic fantasy/sci fi author who wrote porn on the side (under various pseudonyms) to supplement his income.

Well, apparently the younger Offutt had the same notion, until his father passed away and he had to sort through his stuff. Turns out it was the other way around -- he was a porn writer who did sci-fi on the side. The vast majority of what Andrew Offutt wrote in his lifetime was porn, in just about every concievable iteration (other than pedophilia or child porn which was, thankfully, totally absent) including lots of BDSM and the like.

The book is interesting as a memoir of the younger Offutt's childhood in rural Kentucky (might be some parallells to Hillbilly Elegy in spots) and of what the publishing business was like in the late 20th century. Reviews of the book are generally positive.

However, my husband thinks this book was a totally unnecessary trashing of the memory of an author that he kind of respected, and is nothing more than a Boomer generation kid whining about his "daddy issues".

Has anyone else read this book, and if so, what was your takeaway from it? What do you think of Chris Offutt for having written it?

Posted by: Secret Square at February 23, 2020 09:41 AM (9WuX0)

77 Grateful Dead Annotated Lyrics is a good reference book.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:42 AM (PUmDY)

78 Spoiler alert: In Thucydides the Spartans have decided to go to war against Athens. In the past I'd always assumed the Athenians were the good guys because of Persia and all that but they could be stupid dicknoses on occasion, like lots of times.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

79 Bernie's wife outfrumps any of the old Soviet first ladies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 09:44 AM (oVJmc)

80 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.


Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."


- Groucho Marx, whom Burnye probably has confused with the other Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 09:45 AM (HaL55)

81 What is she wearing? Looks like burlap.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (PUmDY)

82 Howdy book nerds!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (NWiLs)

83 "The Real Frank Zappa Book"

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (Tnijr)

84 Beautiful day here. Think I will engage with The Outside.

Have a great Book Thread, everyone!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (Dc2NZ)

85 67 Trump's book list is meant to impress, it's meant to understand who he is. He is a man of action, he gets things done, setbacks don't deter him. His reading material supports this.

Posted by: LD at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (KxVME)

86 Speaking of Charlies Lindbergh, I see HBO is doing a mini-series of the Phillip Roth novel "The Plot Against America". An alternate history where Lindbergh becomes President instead of FDR. Lindbergh and the anti-war/isolationists are of course a bunch of anti-Semites and xenophobes.

Gee I wonder if Hollywood is trying to say something about Trump and his supporters?

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (4thlk)

87 Spoiler alert: In Thucydides the Spartans have decided to go to war against Athens. In the past I'd always assumed the Athenians were the good guys because of Persia and all that but they could be stupid dicknoses on occasion, like lots of times.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:42 AM (y7DUB)
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Yeah, well, ask the Melians about that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 45th Carnival Barking Clowns at February 23, 2020 09:47 AM (jW9oF)

88 "MISOLOGY is a hatred of reasoning, or learned, informed argument."

This word applies to the cancel culture ...

but it's opposite (pedantry?) applies to the Cuckservatives/NeverTrumpers that constantly make the "conservative case against all things Trump". They love to torture quotes from Hegel or Adam Smith, contorting context until our Land of Liberty is squeezed into their "globalist run Utopia" box (where they preside as philosopher priests, I presume).

"The Conservative Case for Commie Bernie", coming to an election near you.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2020 09:47 AM (Cus5s)

89 78 Hate

Sparta led a coalition of willing allies. Athens led a Warsaw Pact-type group of the coerced & reluctant, from what I've read.

VDH has written some wonderful histories about ancient Greece-- it's his specialty.

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:47 AM (Cssks)

90 There's also Nik Cohn's awopbopaloobop alopbamboom: The Golden Age of Rock.

Originally published in 1969, it was Cohn's summing up of what he thought rock was all about and basically, as he put it, "trying to get a jump on the mortician."

He starts with the early days - Johnnie Ray, Bill Haley, Gene Vincent and so on - before moving to Elvis, the Beatles (whom he doesn't particularly care for) the Stones (whom he loves), the Beach Boys, the Monkees, RandB, James Brown, Phil Spector, Dylan and so on.

Some of his choices are, to modern eyes, odd - he gives an entire chapter to the otherwise forgotten PJ Proby - but if you wanted a handy guide to what rock was, how far it had come and how Cohn thought 1969 was the end point - you couldn't do any better.

https://tinyurl.com/s5ob9gh

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2020 09:47 AM (Ki5SV)

91 Inspired by the MiMorons, I dropped by The Archives last week and picked up The Good Soldier by Ford Madox Ford.

I'm going to finish my re-read of LotR and that will be next.

Having finished watching "Brideshead Revisited" with one of my friends, I'm now watching it with my wife.

She HATED it when we watched it together years ago, writing it off as English decadence and a sappy story about dissolute rich people with lots of teh ghey mixed in.

That was before we became Catholic.

Now she LOVES it, because she's able to pick up all the Catholic references. We're almost done and last night we reached the part where Cordelia describes the closing of the chapel at Brideshead and when she finishes, she looks at Charles and says "None of this means anything to you, does it?"

At the end of the episode, I reminded her of that and how when we saw it before, we were like Charles and it made no sense. Now, of course, it's heart-breaking.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

92 - Groucho Marx, whom Burnye probably has confused with the other Marx
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 23, 2020 09:45 AM (HaL55)

I look forward to the day that AOC (Milton Keynes) refers to Marx as "Harpo".

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:49 AM (ONvIw)

93 I'm currently reading Paradoxes if Defense by George Silver, Orlando Furioso by Ludovico Ariosto, and telling myself that I need to restart Orthodoxy by Chesterton. The last one will likely have to wait until after Easter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 23, 2020 09:49 AM (FIj/s)

94 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Eris, I looked up I Hate Fairyland. It is described as "an adventure that ain't for the little kiddies, (unless you have super cool parents, then whatever)."

What say you? How much not for kiddies--is 11 too young? For, say, a certain granddaughter who is turning 11 today, but likes spooky things and whose favorite movie is "It?"

Posted by: Dumb, but hot at February 23, 2020 09:50 AM (OX9vb)

95 What I got out of reading the "Art of War" is basically, the key to winning the battle is not to lose.

Though I'm pretty sure I already knew that.

Posted by: Eric at February 23, 2020 09:50 AM (CcbdU)

96 Who cares what potus reads?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:51 AM (PUmDY)

97 86
Speaking of Charlies Lindbergh, I see HBO is doing a mini-series of the
Phillip Roth novel "The Plot Against America". An alternate history
where Lindbergh becomes President instead of FDR. Lindbergh and the
anti-war/isolationists are of course a bunch of anti-Semites and
xenophobes.

Gee I wonder if Hollywood is trying to say something about Trump and his supporters?


Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (4thlk)

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So Lindbergh will move to limit Jewish immigration so that more die in the concentration camps, right?

The funny thing about the left is that they don't get that bringing this crap up only makes them look worse.

"Yeah, our guys were monsters, but look at this hypothetical monster we created that's even worse!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:51 AM (cfSRQ)

98 "I can see how she would have helped Charles write his pieces."


You can really see her influence on him just by contrasting his book "We" verses "The Spirit of St. Louis". And "We" was actually pretty good but "The Spirit of St. Louis" didn't win the Pulitzer by accident.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:51 AM (4thlk)

99 Speaking of Charlies Lindbergh, I see HBO is doing a mini-series of the Phillip Roth novel "The Plot Against America". An alternate history where Lindbergh becomes President instead of FDR. Lindbergh and the anti-war/isolationists are of course a bunch of anti-Semites and xenophobes.

Gee I wonder if Hollywood is trying to say something about Trump and his supporters?
Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (4thlk)

===

It sucked. Figures they'd make a movie.

Roth's appeal has always been a mystery to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2020 09:52 AM (EZebt)

100 >>What I got out of reading the "Art of War" is basically, the key to winning the battle is not to lose.

The real story to take from the Art of War is if you properly prepare you win without ever fighting a battle.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 09:53 AM (ZLI7S)

101 78
Spoiler alert: In Thucydides the Spartans have decided to go to war
against Athens. In the past I'd always assumed the Athenians were the
good guys because of Persia and all that but they could be stupid
dicknoses on occasion, like lots of times.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

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Classical writers almost uniformly took the side of Sparta.

They wrote extensively on how its political system was superior, how its people had superior ethics, etc.

Athens' democracy was widely held up as a disaster that inevitably led to tyranny and oppression.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

102 Willowed from last thread- cleaned up since I moved from phone to puter.

390
Here is the thing about commie Sanders and the other socialist democrats
national healthcare nightmare pipe dream. You take one look at the
British health system and you would fargin scream.

Last night I
watched a hulu show "30 inches at 18" about a British girl with a rare
dwarfism syndrome. Her bone growing plates fused at about three years
old. To boot her femur heads are shaped like a 20 sided dice not round.
She is basically in chronic debilitating pain.

In the USA I bet she would have
two shiny titanium balls and sockets. In Britain, heir solution was ablate the area and then let fibrous scar
tissue fill the void in the joint that they created. Well duh the heads still look like rounded over 20 sided die. WTF? And then said swim therapy and all the morphine and
oxycodone you can stomach.

As a fella who has had deformed femur head
replaced and knows how it makes the pain go away I was screaming at the
tv because it was so sad. All the doctors were like nope. Nothing else
we can do.

And everyone in the room was like...sorry kid. Think that would fly at the Mayo Clinic or even a moderately nice teaching hospital associated with a upper tier medical school in the US.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 23, 2020 09:54 AM (9dzlp)

103 The Prince is to understand the enemy, I guess.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:54 AM (PUmDY)

104 Support your Moron author and pick up a copy of Vampires of Michigan. I laughed, I cried, it was better than Cats. And the vampires don't sparkle like that wanker from Twilight. You may need to keep a Michigan-to-English dictionary handy, though.

I give it: Two fangs up.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (NWiLs)

105 79 Bernie's wife outfrumps any of the old Soviet first ladies.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 09:44 AM (oVJmc)

And she's no slouch in the Socialist department. She bankrupted a college.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (H8QX8)

106 The real story to take from the Art of War is if you properly prepare you win without ever fighting a battle.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 09:53 AM (ZLI7S)

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The ChiComs do not read Sun Tzu.

Want proof?

Look at them right now.

They don't know themselves and they don't know their enemy. Their entire culture is now based on getting rich and lying to the boss.

It's why they are ultimately doomed as a political experiment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)

107
"President Trump never said 'it depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is,' during his sham impeachment trial. But another president did."

--Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (n/O3c)

108 For awhile now, I've been looking for a book..

Your long wait is over. Per a promo heard several times yesterday on NPR, Jessica Simpson is publishing her memoirs. Soon to take its place next to Grant's Memoirs and the Diary of Anne Frank.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (qc+VF)

109 It sucked. Figures they'd make a movie.



Roth's appeal has always been a mystery to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2020 09:52 AM (EZebt)

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Odds are that it will be even more preachy and dumb than Man in the High Castle, which actually started off reasonably well.

Burn that money, lefties! Burn it all!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:57 AM (cfSRQ)

110 At the end of the episode, I reminded her of that and how when we saw it before, we were like Charles and it made no sense. Now, of course, it's heart-breaking.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

Being "a bit" older, I loved the series when it first came out and watched it in weekly installments. It is also a work that stands the test of time, maybe better with age, as at the time I felt Olivier was in everything and overused.

Back to Vampires though. I liked the slow roll out of character development and the overarching theme (which is not spelled out for you). It's also right up the alley for those who eschew detailed description and prefer the story to move with action and dialogue. I split it over two evenings.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

111
Have you read my slogan, yet?

A fyoochah you can believe in.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 23, 2020 09:59 AM (n/O3c)

112 Morning, Readers!

Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2020 10:01 AM (MVjcR)

113
Roth's appeal has always been a mystery to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2020 09:52 AM (EZebt)

Me too. I also have it on great authority that he was personally a complete jerk

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:01 AM (ONvIw)

114 Who Dis : a guy with MUMPS smokin' and wearing shoes on my Whale Penis chaise longue FFS.

William Barr or the war of the worlds dude.

Posted by: saf at February 23, 2020 10:03 AM (5IHGB)

115 So how about a real crossing of the streams.

Perhaps we could find the list of books read by the late Neil Pearth.

I understand that for a rock drummer, he was remarkably well read.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:04 AM (tT0V4)

116
Gee I wonder if Hollywood is trying to say something about Trump and his supporters?



They did the same thing with W, with HW, and with Reagan.

Overblown delusional rants, that they stew and obsess in for the length of the Presidency.

Then forget the second anything changes, and any Dem elected is the Second Coming of Absolute Purity and Salvation.

Psychotic behavior.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 10:04 AM (oVJmc)

117 Let these mentally diseased fucktards write books no one reads and make movies that few go to. Could care less.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2020 10:05 AM (5FuoX)

118 115, good idea.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:05 AM (PUmDY)

119 Anybody seeing "The Boys" on Amazon. I'm beginning to realize the story is a liberal metaphor for "America under Trump" and the character of Homelander with the golden hair is a Donald Trump simulacrum (that is, what Leftist writers imagine Trump to be) -- shallow, self-centered, covertly cruel.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (H8QX8)

120 Psychotic behavior.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 10:04 AM (oVJmc)

I'd have said Borderline, but there is an overlap

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

121 I know I'm late. Just got back from the grocery store which was a mad house.



Current reading the novel Outlander after watching the Netflix version of season 1 episode 1 through 5. I liked the first episode but it started dragging by 5.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (mpXpK)

122 115 So how about a real crossing of the streams.

Perhaps we could find the list of books read by the late Neil Pearth.

I understand that for a rock drummer, he was remarkably well read.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:04 AM (tT0V4)

What if Neil Peart is actually a vampire, who used his superhuman speed and senses to be the world's best drummer? And what if he isn't dead, but in a state of torpor?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (NWiLs)

123 >>The ChiComs do not read Sun Tzu.

Seems pretty clear that Trump has read him.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (ZLI7S)

124 Posted by: Dumb, but hot at February 23, 2020 09:50 AM (OX9vb)

/Off, failed attempt at funny sock from yesterday

Posted by: April at February 23, 2020 10:07 AM (OX9vb)

125 Thucydides was like one of kennedys generals. He couldnt imagine pericles could do anything wrong that was for nicias and cleon (insert nixon reference here) thats what i got from donald knoxs monograph on him

Posted by: Gaius martius at February 23, 2020 10:08 AM (hMlTh)

126 Except garth ennis wtote this sbout w and cheney.

Posted by: Gaius martius at February 23, 2020 10:09 AM (hMlTh)

127 Rules for Radicals is their Art of War.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:09 AM (PUmDY)

128 Trump uses Rules for Radicals.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2020 10:10 AM (8PoSv)

129 104 Support your Moron author and pick up a copy of Vampires of Michigan. I laughed, I cried, it was better than Cats. And the vampires don't sparkle like that wanker from Twilight. You may need to keep a Michigan-to-English dictionary handy, though.

I give it: Two fangs up.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (NWiLs)

I haven't lived in MI for many years and I was not unfamiliar with terms. Vampires, etc are not my thing and I don't know anything about modern vampire lore or epidemiological fantasy, but I'd give it two fangs up as well.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:10 AM (ONvIw)

130 Back to Vampires though. I liked the slow roll out
of character development and the overarching theme (which is not spelled
out for you). It's also right up the alley for those who eschew
detailed description and prefer the story to move with action and
dialogue. I split it over two evenings.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

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Thanks!

Yes, it changed as I wrote it and part of the reason why it seemed to get locked in editing was that there were some major problems with all the changes between its conception and completion.

Funny you mentioned the description. Yesterday I had lunch with my father and gave him a paperback copy (I know he won't read it, but I like to be nice).

We chatted about description and I said I just don't have the patience to describe everything to the last detail. I mentioned how upon getting a car back from the mechanic I looked it over more carefully than I have in a long time, and noticed a few things about the dashboard's finish that I hadn't thought about before.

But who does that? Who writes about the curve of the gauges, the color of the dials, texture of the vinyl, and so on?

So I try to get to the point and say what I have to say.

I wanted it to be fast read because it's a fast story. I think it covers less than two weeks of time.

Oh, and some author trivia: The character of "Bear" just showed up. I was writing a scene and he barged in just like it happened in the story. Totally unplanned.

Must've been the whiskey.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

131 Russell mead was who made the nixon comparison in his 90s rant mortal splendor he was unhinged as any puff8ngton hoster then.

Posted by: Gaius martius at February 23, 2020 10:11 AM (hMlTh)

132 When I suggested the Neil Peart list, it was about those books which he had read, and influenced his life.

On the other hand he also wrote at least six books.


http://www.neilpeart.net/index.php/books/

Cause rock drummers be dumb, and stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:12 AM (tT0V4)

133 I haven't lived in MI for many years and I was not
unfamiliar with terms. Vampires, etc are not my thing and I don't know
anything about modern vampire lore or epidemiological fantasy, but I'd
give it two fangs up as well.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:10 AM (ONvIw)

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*points to Amazon page*

Five stars would be nice.

Hint, hint.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:12 AM (cfSRQ)

134 The Music of Erich Zann

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (t+qrx)

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Technically a short story, but we'll allow it.

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I read a syfy short story many years ago possibly entitled something like Who Will Watch the Watchers about a talented young composer who is ostracized because he unintentionally heard some music of Bach and thus hid originality was compromised.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:13 AM (+y/Ru)

135 I don't think he uses it, but he definitely knows it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:13 AM (PUmDY)

136 124 Posted by: Dumb, but hot at February 23, 2020 09:50 AM (OX9vb)

/Off, failed attempt at funny sock from yesterday
Posted by: April at February 23, 2020 10:07 AM (OX9vb)

Are we talking AOC here? I understand that some "conservative" twitterer took aim at her expensing togs and was quoted in the NYPost. Conservative is getting quite a battery of insults from the AOC fanclubbers, who see no problem with AOC's pricey wardrobe. Hence Bernie's homes will not be an issue. With the left ideological purity crushes actual behavior

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

137 Books > Groupie sluts and mountains of blow.

Posted by: Zombie Neal Peart at February 23, 2020 10:16 AM (sGKZZ)

138 103 The Prince is to understand the enemy, I guess.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:54 AM (PUmDY)
________

Not necessarily. Michael Anton, the Flight 93 Election author, is a big (and I mean BIG) fan. There is a school of interpretation of Machiavelli which sees him as actually promoting and defending republican government. Many, but not all, are Straussians.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:17 AM (ZbwAu)

139 Ok, 'rons and 'ronettes, time for me to move on. Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2020 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)

140 If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.

Might as well by the definition of Trump's twitter.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 10:18 AM (ZLI7S)

141 In the past I'd always assumed the Athenians were the
good guys because of Persia and all that but they could be stupid dicknoses on occasion, like lots of times.

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In his book, A War Like No Other, Victor Davis Hanson is amazed the destruction of Athens and, particularly, of the walls of Piraeus was celebrated with dancing, flutes, and drums.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:18 AM (+y/Ru)

142 Bookshelf inserts? That implies that there's empty space on your bookshelf to begin with

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2020 10:19 AM (Izzlo)

143 Mrs Bernie Sanders as flotus. I would rather Yoko Ono.

Speaking of the Yokester......

If Cobs get tired of punishing us with her, I nominate this as a replacement.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:19 AM (arJlL)

144 "If Cobs get tired of punishing us with her, I nominate this as a replacement"

Ummm?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:20 AM (tT0V4)

145 I read "The Vanishing Hitchhiker," the first of Jan Harold Brunvald's books on urban legends. It's from 1981, but it's still pretty fascinating. For a while, the Kindle edition was $2, dunno if it still is.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2020 10:21 AM (l9m7l)

146 Bernie will be the nominee, or the D house berns down

It's baked in that Bernie will have the most delegates and I'd bet a majority. That's because he'll always get 25% and qualify for delegates. The others won't. It gets worse when Bloomberg gets in and fizzles, leaving the rest of the field even more divided. Anyone who doesn't get to 15% in effect gives Bernie more delegates. It just happened in NV with Bernie getting half the delegates without Bloomberg in the mix

Bloomberg's plan has already failed. He'll only help Bernie, not stop him

If Bernie falls just short of a majority of delegates; and the DNC fucks him, it'll be D on D war

Will Bloomberg spend half a billion backing Bernie?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2020 10:21 AM (8PoSv)

147 If Cobs get tired of punishing us with her, I nominate this as a replacement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORPxmsBJoE

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:23 AM (arJlL)

148 Roth's appeal has always been a mystery to me.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2020 09:52 AM (EZebt)


The books of his I've read have been pretty funny although humor is subjective. I don't doubt he was a real life shithead, like that's an unusual situation, but he was also at least the face of Penguin's "Writers from the Other Europe" which opened my eyes to samizdat from behind the Iron Curtain in which I thoroughly immersed myself then and now.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 10:23 AM (y7DUB)

149 MISOLOGY is a hatred of reasoning, or learned, informed argument.

-
Higher education

Old and busted: Socratic method

New hotness: Stalinic methodx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:24 AM (+y/Ru)

150 "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORPxmsBJoE"


Thanks, JT

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:24 AM (tT0V4)

151 The ChiComs do not read Sun Tzu.

Want proof?

Look at them right now.

They don't know themselves and they don't know their enemy. Their entire culture is now based on getting rich and lying to the boss.

It's why they are ultimately doomed as a political experiment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)


Sun Tzu would have been categorized as one of the fold "olds" that the ChiComs deliberately set out to destroy during the Cultural Revolution.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:24 AM (eA950)

152 "If Cobs get tired of punishing us with her, I nominate this as a replacement"

Ummm?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

See above sorry, I'm delirious from hunger.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:25 AM (arJlL)

153 Since we're over 100...

Yesterday I went to the funeral of my ne'er do well uncle. Lifelong alcoholic, really smart, but always failed.

No, he wasn't a direct inspiration for Zip in Vampires of Michigan, but you write what you know.

Anyhow, after the service and some lunch with my father (the uncle was maternal, so he wasn't there), Mrs. Lloyd and I attended vigil mass at the Shrine of the Little Flower, which is now a basilica.

Wow. My grandmother's funeral mass was said there but we never took the time to go through the place. Truly amazing. Worth a visit for those impressed by art and architecture. They don't build stuff like that anymore.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:26 AM (cfSRQ)

154 I had a good book buying week. Yesterday there was a used book sale at a local library, and I picked up a few good books: "The Edge of The Unknown" by Arthur Conan Doyle, a non-fiction exploration of the occult & supernatural by the creator of Sherlock Holmes; Alfred Hitchcock Presents "Stories that scared even Me"; "Bunker Hill: A City, A Siege, A Revolution" by Nathaniel Philbrick; "Thunder Below: The USS Barb..." by Admiral Eugene Fluckey, about the exploits of the submarine USS Barb in WWII, the only sub to sink a train!; "George Washington's Secret Six: The Spy Ring that Saved the American Revolution" by Brian KIlmead; "The Looming Tower: Al-Queda and the Road to 9/11" by Lawrence Wright & "Pegasus Bridge" by Stephen Ambrose. All that for $10!

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2020 10:27 AM (Izzlo)

155 Rereading Murderers' Row, by G H Fleming. A newspaper clippings book on the 1927 Yankees. Unlike his previous two (The Unforgettable Season - 1908 - and The Dizziest Season - 1934) there is no suspense in the pennant race. Zero. But like the 1934 book (and unlike the 08 one) there is one personality who just dominates. Ruth and Dean, for the non-baseball fans.

One interesting thing - not often mentioned - is that the Yankees were not the preseason favorites. The Athletics were, followed by the Senators. That didn't last long.

The other 2 I read this week were Ngaio Marsh, Scales of Justice and Margery Allingham The Black Dudley Murders. The former was a disappointment. She made a mistake in the solution; the "guilty" person cannot have done it. The latter really isn't a mystery at all, just a suspense novel. There really aren't any clues pointing to the murderer.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:27 AM (ZbwAu)

156 147 If Cobs get tired of punishing us with her, I nominate this as a replacement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORPxmsBJoE
Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:23 AM (arJlL)


The thing is, Tony Bennett could actually sing. You might not like his style (I personally don't), but there's no denying his vocal talent. Yoko, not so much.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:27 AM (eA950)

157 Oh, and some author trivia: The character of "Bear" just showed up. I was writing a scene and he barged in just like it happened in the story. Totally unplanned.

Must've been the whiskey.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

Agatha Christie's author characters used to complain bitterly about their literary denizens having minds of their own. One of her "writers" was really pretty disturbed about it. I suspect it's common enough to intuit that something should happen, even though it wasn't in the master plan.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:30 AM (ONvIw)

158 Chicoms , 1.5 billion of them , may not read Sun Tzu, but experts agree that Mao certainly did read him.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 10:31 AM (jUilJ)

159 Wow. My grandmother's funeral mass was said there but we never took the time to go through the place. Truly amazing. Worth a visit for those impressed by art and architecture. They don't build stuff like that anymore.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:26 AM (cfSRQ)


When I were a wee bairn growing up in the Bay Area, my father would occasionally drive us into San Francisco to hear Mass at St. Ignatius Church. Wow. Talk about jaw-dropping art amd architecture.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:31 AM (eA950)

160 I finally finished "The Catechism of the Council of Trent." It is great. None of the Social Justice Bullshit you find in the JP2 CCC. Oh, and there is nothing wrong with the death penalty.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:31 AM (2BZBZ)

161 As for COBs, I will never think of one of them in the same way since Vampires of Michigan. This is just my free-association, btw

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

162 154
Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2020 10:27 AM (Izzlo)
________

The mention of Pegasus Bridge reminds me of a triumph of mine. Since we were married, my wife and I have had an agreement about books. If one buys a book, the other gets a purchase of about equal price*.

When Band of Brothers came on, she really got into it. So she decided SHE wanted the book. So I "balanced" it with Pegasus Bridge.

*Since my warship books tend to be costly, that usually means several for her. But not this time.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:32 AM (ZbwAu)

163 The thing is, Tony Bennett could actually sing. You might not like his style (I personally don't), but there's no denying his vocal talent. Yoko, not so much.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar

Yes, he could actually sing, I don't dislike him, but I think he tortured this song.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:32 AM (arJlL)

164 Anyone read "The Jewish War" by Josephus? I am looking forward to it.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:33 AM (2BZBZ)

165 Just checked Amazon, Brunvand's books are hugely expensive, even for the Kindle.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2020 10:35 AM (l9m7l)

166 Yes, he could actually sing, I don't dislike him, but I think he tortured this song.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:32 AM (arJlL)

Tom Waits has sold more records than me, but I think it's only because I haven't made any.

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 10:36 AM (X/Pw5)

167 Yes, Thucydides is overrated as a general.

Posted by: Brasidas at February 23, 2020 10:37 AM (x8Q/V)

168 38
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:22 AM (y7DUB)
_________

It's been a while, but I do remember that Austin showed a greater understanding of men than most women have. There's a passage where she says that had Catherine only spoken to her brother, she'd have found that it was a waste of time agonizing over which dress to wear. Tilney won't really notice.

There's something very endearing about Catherine Morland.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:37 AM (ZbwAu)

169 160 I finally finished "The Catechism of the Council of Trent." It is great. None of the Social Justice Bullshit you find in the JP2 CCC. Oh, and there is nothing wrong with the death penalty.
Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:31 AM (2BZBZ)


Did the RCC finally get around to incorporating blanket opposition to the death penalty into their "official" theology?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:38 AM (eA950)

170 164 Anyone read "The Jewish War" by Josephus? I am looking forward to it.
Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:33 AM (2BZBZ)

Which began when Moishe the tailor refused to give Herschel 50% off the bespoke two pair pants he already made.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

171 NAP time !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 10:39 AM (arJlL)

172 Did the RCC finally get around to incorporating blanket opposition to the death penalty into their "official" theology?


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:38 AM (eA950)

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No.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)

173 Another music book

Psychotic Reaction and Carburetor Dung - Lester Bangs

Read a couple Nabokov stories, Tyrants Destroyed and The Visit to the Museum. Both of them dealt with dealing with tyranny. The first one started with a lot of promise but fizzled in the end with a confusing resolution to dealing with a tyrant the narrator grew up with. The second was much better about an emigre visiting a museum and getting lost in a labyrinth of increasingly fantastic rooms until finally dumped into the Soviet Union he'd escaped from.

Both of these were written when Vlad was trying to get the fuck out of Europe because of Hitler plus he had almost no money. It's hard to imagine that not having an impact on his writing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 10:40 AM (y7DUB)

174
As president, I will make every year a Leap Year.
[waves hands wildly playing an imaginary piano]
It. Is. Not. Fair. For. Only. One. Year. Out. Of. Every. Four. Years. ToBeALeapYear!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 23, 2020 10:40 AM (ZSUyT)

175 Mrs. Orsen Wells

Posted by: robert at February 23, 2020 10:41 AM (kd/wn)

176 The lesson here, is dont try to fight autterly ruthless larger power, the zealots wanted to fight rome, they got what they wished for, just not the result they expected.

Posted by: Gaius martius at February 23, 2020 10:42 AM (hMlTh)

177
Yeah, so this is a leap year, which means babies can be born
on February 29th and only age at .25 the rate everyone else does.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 10:42 AM (ZSUyT)

178 The other 2 I read this week were Ngaio Marsh,
Scales of Justice and Margery Allingham The Black Dudley Murders. The
former was a disappointment. She made a mistake in the solution; the
"guilty" person cannot have done it. The latter really isn't a mystery
at all, just a suspense novel. There really aren't any clues pointing to
the murderer.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:27 AM (ZbwAu)

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IIRC, Frito and Spam have to work their way through the Ngaio Marsh on their way to Fordor.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:42 AM (cfSRQ)

179 > Will Bloomberg spend half a billion backing Bernie?

If Sanders gets the nomination, Bloomberg will endorse Trump.

We've already seen a few of the cuckservatives shifting to Trump.

Even for a cuckservative, an outright communist is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:43 AM (Ewo9R)

180 I'm almost finished with Charles Todd's The Murder Stone. I had read several of his Inspector Ian Rutledge murder mysteries and thought I'd give this one a try. Although I'm almost finished, I don't know whether this can be described as a murder mystery because I'm unsure if there has been a murder, although there is plenty of mystery. Francesca Hatton, burned out Red Cross nurse assisting the wounded from WWI France, returns to her grandfather's isolated estate to care for the dying man. He has already lost his two sons to violence and his five grandsons to the battlefields of France leaving Francesca the sole surviving member of the family. In administering his estate she finds that her grandfather was far more complex with far more secrets than she had imagined and moral ambiguity clouds her remembrance of an idyllic childhood with her five cousins.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:43 AM (+y/Ru)

181 Would normally say Pick up and Read but haven't had a new book in weeks myself.

No doujbt the Rare Book Room in the University of Pennsylvania is where all the conservative books are held

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 10:43 AM (ZCEU2)

182 JT,
Saw your comment on the last thread. Rough week for me. I'm getting the memorial pulled together. It's next Sunday. Saw my pulmonologist. He says I really need to move. Lots of stuff to think about. It's been one month today.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 23, 2020 10:44 AM (Lqy/e)

183 I have PR and CD. Loose definition of book.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:44 AM (PUmDY)

184 i read a very silly book, Simcha Jacobovici and Barrie Wilson's The Lost Gospel. This argues that the Genesis fanfiction "Joseph and Aseneth" encodes the marriage of Mary Magdalene to Jesus.

Those interested in a full pantsing of the silly may read here : ntweblog.blogspot.com/2014/12/richard-bauckham-assessing-lost-gospel_9.html

There are some good ideas in here, certainly the grist for several good articles and maybe a book about the reception-history of this text in Late Antiquity. But if they'd done that the only lay person who'd read the result is me. So the authors jumped for the brass ring and came back with a terlit seat.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 23, 2020 10:45 AM (ykYG2)

185
Yeahbut, if Bernie Sanders does get the D nom, he absolutely will re-adopt some of his old policies for the general election, i.e., the few policies he and Trump had in common in 2016.


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 10:45 AM (ZSUyT)

186 There will be many exemptions.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (PUmDY)

187 Those book nooks are right up my alley, I should try to make one.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (ZCEU2)

188 The JP2 CCC has words like "... the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity 'are very rare, if not practically non-existent.'"

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (2BZBZ)

189 > I understand that for a rock drummer, he was remarkably well read.

Do a web search for "Keith Richards library". Enviable.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (Ewo9R)

190 Sun Tzu tactics are basic common sense. I do like the areas where it addresses how to lead and treat your soldiers which I think is the most important.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

191 If Sanders gets the nomination, Bloomberg will endorse Trump.

We've already seen a few of the cuckservatives shifting to Trump.

Even for a cuckservative, an outright communist is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:43 AM (Ewo9R)

If Bernie gets the nomination, Bloomberg will continue to endorse Bloomberg until his dying breath.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

192 There's something very endearing about Catherine Morland.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2020 10:37 AM (ZbwAu)


Oh hell yeah. Even though she could do some Patterico level dumbfuck things, like snoop around the abbey to find where General Tilney kept his trapped and not dead wife, if you don't like Catherine you're almost officially a horrible person.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

193 I heard Keef's autobiography is good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (PUmDY)

194 The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli Seems to be one of those books everyone talks about but nobody actually bothers to read. Even less so than The Bible. Seems that's a category itself.

Posted by: WTP at February 23, 2020 10:48 AM (WQfDg)

195 Rumor has it that under the new Francis CCC, using a plastic straw is a Mortal Sin.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:48 AM (2BZBZ)

196
If piss matthews is saying he'd rather have President Trump than Bernie,
it will fun to watch the Fake Republicans-For-Media make their case for
Bernie.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 10:49 AM (ZSUyT)

197 > Seems to be one of those books everyone talks about but nobody actually bothers to read.

I've read it, and recommend it. It's short and not at all a difficult read.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:49 AM (Ewo9R)

198 > I've read it, and recommend it. It's short and not at all a difficult read.

It was the "Rules for Radicals" of its day, you might say.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:49 AM (Ewo9R)

199 I had to read "The Prince" back in the day for AP Modern European History. Yikes. My vocabulary back then seriously sucked.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:50 AM (2BZBZ)

200 Mrs. Orson Wells

Posted by: robert at February 23, 2020 10:50 AM (kd/wn)

201 Anybody seeing "The Boys" on Amazon. I'm beginning to realize the story is a liberal metaphor for "America under Trump" and the character of Homelander with the golden hair is a Donald Trump simulacrum (that is, what Leftist writers imagine Trump to be) -- shallow, self-centered, covertly cruel.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 10:06 AM (H8QX


Honestly, I think there are absolutely no allegorical aspects to the show (and the book), other than the writers basically taking a piss out of the whole superhero/comics "world."

I guess if one WANTS to see parallels to "Trump's America," you can find it, but then you can do that with pretty much everything these days.

My suggestion is enjoy the show, and leave the current politics out of it.

By the way, I would highly recommend the books. The show takes some big detours from them, so you aren't going to be spoiling much if you read ahead. Having read the books, I'm dying to see where they take the second season of the series, because they're clearly not taking it where the book goes.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 10:50 AM (hku12)

202 190
Sun Tzu tactics are basic common sense. I do like the areas where it
addresses how to lead and treat your soldiers which I think is the most
important.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

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Yet so few leaders follow them.

The ChiComs are basically doing a tour-de-force of What Not To Do.

I agree with OM: they threw him out because he's not revolutionary and it's killing them.

For all their supposed wonder-weapons, no one has any idea how any of their gear will perform in a combat environment. The export versions of their small arms are solid "mehs."

FUN FACT: Gun-free Canada allows civilian importation of ChiCom small arms, but not the US.

Just showing what a pawn little Justin from Canada is.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:50 AM (cfSRQ)

203 I found a very good book last week: it's Volume 4 of the collected short stories of Louis L'Amour. Volume 4, part 1: Adventure Stories is the full title.

Those stories are really good: mostly about sailors in the Pacific and China, adventurers in central Asia, and hobos riding the rails. And according to the end note by L'Amour's son Louis did most of those things himself.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 23, 2020 10:51 AM (m7tTY)

204 189 > I understand that for a rock drummer, he was remarkably well read.
Do a web search for "Keith Richards library". Enviable.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (Ewo9R)


As featured in a previous book thread:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=359842

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:51 AM (eA950)

205 As for the Genesis fanfiction "Joseph and Aseneth" itself, you may read that free in many places. Jacobovici and Wilson translated the Syriac version but there are Latin and Greek versions out there too.

This story proved popular among literate Christians. As Bauckham's review points out, it is indeed a Christian text but, set in Biblical times. So it had to "anticipate" Christianity. There are many books like this in Christian monastic libraries: Ascension of Isaiah is a another. It can be very hard to tell books like this apart from Jewish biblical fanfiction.

It is sort of an analogue of the marriage between Christ and His Church told as if Joseph was Christlike and Aseneth as like the Syro-Egyptian pagans before conversion.

Going from that to saying that Magdalene herself was a pagan priestess is, of course, utter balls.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 23, 2020 10:51 AM (ykYG2)

206 Speaking of talked about books that nobody reads, I know of no one who actually read 2666. I've read glowing reviews and a few dank, snoozefest reviews, but I know of no one who read the 912 pages. I suspect I know a few people who won't admit to having started it.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:52 AM (ONvIw)

207 > I read a syfy short story many years ago possibly entitled something like Who Will Watch the Watchers about a talented young composer who is ostracized because he unintentionally heard some music of Bach and thus hid originality was compromised.

"Unaccompanied Sonata", by Orson Scott Card

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:52 AM (Ewo9R)

208 I give up on modern culture revisiting any classic on stage. The new production of "West Side Story" dropped "I feel pretty." WTF?

I walked out of a movie/broadcast of "Cyrano de Bergerac" by the UK's National Theater after five minutes. They moved it to modern times, made Cyrano a master of rap battles not actual fighting, completely destroyed that beautiful language and did nothing to alter the shape of his nose.

Posted by: vivi at February 23, 2020 10:53 AM (11H2y)

209 Just showing what a pawn little Justin from Canada is.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:50 AM (cfSRQ)

So he's a lot like his dad (whether that is Castro or Pierre doesn't matter here).

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)

210 No.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)


I think that's the direction the RCC is heading, though. I think Francis is full-on anti-death penalty. What do you think?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:54 AM (eA950)

211 I'm still trudging through Neil Peart's book Ghost Rider. Its getting a wee bit tedious, because he includes a shit ton of letters he wrote to friends while on his journey, so you get to relive it twice. Still, its pretty good. I picked up his other book Masked Rider. I may start on that one.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 10:55 AM (9Om/r)

212 Another great book that I had a hard time with back then was "The Anatomy of Revolution." I read it a few years ago and it is great.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:55 AM (2BZBZ)

213 I walked out of a movie/broadcast of "Cyrano de Bergerac" by the UK's National Theater after five minutes. They moved it to modern times, made Cyrano a master of rap battles not actual fighting, completely destroyed that beautiful language and did nothing to alter the shape of his nose.
Posted by: vivi at February 23, 2020 10:53 AM (11H2y)

That's reminiscent of Roxanne, when Shelley Duvall asks Steve Martin why he doesn't just get a nose job. Also it's annoying that baldness is still an issue in TNG.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (ONvIw)

214 I currently own the most disappointing edition of Sun Tzu ever printed. The cover said it was annotated, so I snapped it up. Cool! A Chinese classic with commentary!

Well . . . the commentary turned out to be random quotes about war by various random people, with no relevance to Master Sun's writing. My guess is that they had the intern go on Google to find them. I still have it but that will last only until I find a better version. Then it will go on to a glorious destiny as kindling.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (m7tTY)

215 Another good book on musicj is Testimony by Dimitri Shostakovich. Actually, there is some question as to he actually wrote it and it was smuggled out or whether it is merely anti-communist propaganda (although most of the incidents clearly happened). Dimitri welcomed the revolution, liberated pianos from the 1%, put them on flatbed trucks and rode around entertaining thex proletariat. Later Stalin took a more hands on approach to the arts and Dimitri constantly feared that a melodic or harmonic choice would lead to a bullet in the back of his skull.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)

216 Getting near the end of A People's Tragedy and went through the part in which Lenin fucked over religion, which the people never stopped believing in and must be frustrating to the Peronist pile of shit currently stinking up the Vatican. Figes makes clear that Lenin deserves no excuses of not being as bad as Stalin because, in addition to being a lame ass rationale, it's probably not true in terms of out and out murdering religious people on top of desecrating places of worship.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

217 Regarding Jefferson's post-Presidency financial mess:

He tried to farm his way out of it, instead of law practicing his way out of it!

A world famous former POTUS would have had no problem whatsoever finding clients who wanted top shelf legal representation before the brand new, infant federal courts.

That Jefferson didn't see the obvious way out of his money troubles has always amazed & fascinated me.

Did I mention "obvious"?

....

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:38 AM (Cssks)


I'm really not a fan of Jefferson, so take what I'm about to say from that perspective... but I believe I'm right here:

Jefferson really wasn't a deep thinker. He was a big picture guy, maybe even a visionary, but he was often also wrong, and wasn't terribly committed to putting in the hard work, or seeing things through to their conclusions.

That's true of his political life, his private dealings, and his personal relationships.

I think a post-Presidency law career would have been too much work for him, and his clients would have gotten shoddy representation, had he gone that way. So I give him credit for not "cashing in," but otherwise... yeah, Jefferson's life was a mess, all said and done.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (hku12)

218 I always summed up The Prince as the ends justify the means. I'm not a fan of that philosophy and just play defense against those that do.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (2DOZq)

219 citizen welles

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (CLteG)

220 188
The JP2 CCC has words like "... the cases in which the execution of the
offender is an absolute necessity 'are very rare, if not practically
non-existent.'"

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM (2BZBZ)

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Much of the opposition to the death penalty is predicated on the notion that we are affluent enough to pay the upkeep for murderers and rapists.

If you have a killer, especially a repeat offender, there's no safe way to let them back into society.

So you have to kill them out of necessity lest they kill again.

Prison provides an alternative, and in a wealthy society, it's not much of a burden.

But I question the morality of requiring people to work to sustain murderers, especially ones who show no repentance.

I'd love to debate someone about that. "This guy killed, shows no remorse, will kill again if given the chance, so it's my responsibility to clothe and feed him...why? Show me the scripture where we are told to forgive those who refuse to repent."

There's lots of places in the Bible that show capital punishment and frequent exhortations that those who live by the sword will die by it.

I'm aware of nothing in there that creates a moral requirement for a 'leisure class' of unrepentant murderers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)

221 Even for a cuckservative, an outright communist is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:43 AM (Ewo9R)

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Think fat guys can't jump? Watch me.

Posted by: Rear Adm. Bill Kristol at February 23, 2020 10:57 AM (XVuno)

222 > I read it a few years ago and it is great.

I wonder how many kids have been put off reading by being forced to read stuff that they just aren't ready for? Not just in terms of vocabulary, but in terms of having the relevant life experiences that allow them to connect to the book.

For instance, Moby-Dick is an incredible book, but is far beyond the level that can be appreciated by most high school age kids, especially in the current snowflake era.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:58 AM (Ewo9R)

223 218
I always summed up The Prince as the ends justify the means. I'm not a
fan of that philosophy and just play defense against those that do.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (2DOZq)

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There is a lot more in there than that.

A lot more.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:59 AM (cfSRQ)

224 Being a self-published author is a great profession to pursue even if you suck at it, as long as you don't plan to make any money at it.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 10:59 AM (m45I2)

225 And I picked up one more gem this week. I purchased "Shadows 3", the third volume in a series of horror anthologies published in the 70s & 80s. This is a presentation copy, signed & inscribed by the editor & several horror/sci-fi writers, including Ray Bradbury! I thought at first that I read the bookseller's description wrong (which has happened to me before), but decided to take a chance. It's the real deal & I couldn't be more thrilled to have that in my collection. Especially at the dirt cheap price I paid.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2020 10:59 AM (Izzlo)

226 > I'm not a fan of that philosophy and just play defense against those that do.

Nor am I a fan, but playing a good defense requires understanding the strategy and tactics of your opponents. Once again, the same holds true with Alinsky.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:59 AM (Ewo9R)

227 In nine days, with Bloomberg added, the way the 15% rule works, Bernie will get 70% of the delegates in CA and many other states

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2020 11:00 AM (8PoSv)

228 I've read it, and recommend it. It's short and not at all a difficult read.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:49 AM (Ewo9R)

I'm almost certainly the least well read of the BOOKS eleventy! junkies here and I've read it.

It is short, as is AoW which I've also read.

Both are worth your time. YMMV

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 11:00 AM (cknjq)

229 I made sure both of my kids read The Prince. If you want to grow up to be an evil mastermind it's mandatory reading.

Only one of them is currently following the EM career track, but the other one shows promise as the named henchman who gets to defeat the hero at the end of the second act, so that's good.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 23, 2020 11:01 AM (m7tTY)

230 "The Real Frank Zappa Book"

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2020 09:46 AM (Tnijr)


Back when this book came out, Zappa was on Larry King's show to promote the book.

Larry asked: "So, who is the real Frank Zappa?"
Frank said: "No, Larry. There are a lot of unauthorized biographies about me out there. This isn't the real __Frank Zappa__ book, it is the real Frank Zappa __book__.

Frank went on to make fun of Larry throughout the rest the interview. Very entertaining!

Posted by: db at February 23, 2020 11:01 AM (G/Q6j)

231 Getting near the end of A People's Tragedy and went through the part in which Lenin fucked over religion, which the people never stopped believing in and must be frustrating to the Peronist pile of shit currently stinking up the Vatican. Figes makes clear that Lenin deserves no excuses of not being as bad as Stalin because, in addition to being a lame ass rationale, it's probably not true in terms of out and out murdering religious people on top of desecrating places of worship.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (y7DUB)


Oh my... having just made my comment (above) on Jefferson, I want to make sure no one thinks I'm comparing Lenin to Jefferson, but.....

Lenin was another of those Big Picture guys, and so the difference between him and Stalin would be, Stalin was a brilliant man, who wanted his fingers in everything, and was relentless about getting his way. He was patient, he was cunning, he was diabolical, and he understood people extraordinarily well.

The main reason Hilter got over on him (at first) is because I don't think Stalin thought there was anyone around who was as good as it as he.

But Lenin... yeah, he needed Lenin to get people to follow them, and to believe in them, and to have a shining example of what communism COULD be... and then Stalin shoved him aside (and did probably kill him), and went about the decades long business of being the evil genius he was.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:02 AM (hku12)

232 So MISOLOGY is basically mythology without the lisp?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:02 AM (m45I2)

233 was I a fool for not understanding the Straussian cooment?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 11:02 AM (PUmDY)

234 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 10:59 AM (Ewo9R)

Totally agree. Which brings us back to Sun Tzu.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (2DOZq)

235 I'm aware of nothing in there that creates a moral requirement for a 'leisure class' of unrepentant murderers.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)

I doubt if Veblen would add them to the ranks of leisure class or place prison garb into the canons of pecuniary taste. I do not however see any reason at all to have people like Manson, the weather underground bastards, or Jesse Timmendequas wasting perfectly good air.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (ONvIw)

236 If you do get to Monticello try to take the long tour. I think it's called behind the scenes. You'll see more of the house and time is taken for actual discussion. My wife and I had a great time.

Posted by: Robert Luebkemann at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (eohDJ)

237 > If you have a killer, especially a repeat offender, there's no safe way to let them back into society.

Repeat offenders, certainly. Hit men, serial killers, and so on.

I think I've read that garden-variety murderers are one of the LEAST likely to reoffend.

There are a lot of guys doing time for murder who are there because one specific person just monumentally pissed them off, possibly by doing something that would cause just about anyone to react violently.

They're not really much of a danger to the general public.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (Ewo9R)

238 Thanks OM. Excellent. Trump. Art of the Deal. Says a lot about the man and now especially his fight against the NY elites who hated him and wanted him to fail. But then when he had the best property in town had to buy from him so hated him even more.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 11:04 AM (Orx/W)

239 Only one of them is currently following the EM career track, but the other one shows promise as the named henchman who gets to defeat the hero at the end of the second act, so that's good.
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 23, 2020 11:01 AM (m7tTY)


In my case, I'm the Bumbling Sidekick who's put in for comedy relief.

All we're missing is a Busty Tavern Wench. Where's Eris, is Eris still here?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:04 AM (eA950)

240 I think that's the direction the RCC is heading, though. I think Francis is full-on anti-death penalty. What do you think?


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 10:54 AM (eA950)

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Francis is likely the high-water mark for the infiltrators.

They've been exposed for what they are, thanks to him.

He didn't mean to expose them, but he did.

Then he tried to find a way to get women ordained as deacons, married priests and incorporate pagan bits. That failed in a big way.

I live in a liberal town and the change to the Church here in the last ten years has been striking.

More emphasis on traditional doctrine, more use of traditional rites, much less feel-good nonsense.

The young priests coming up are very different from their Boomer predecessors.

Father Mark used to host "college sex talks."

His successor sponsors Marian consecrations. My previous parish is even more orthodox, using a variation of the Tridentine Mass. They have have kneelers to take Communion, even.

Francis' skill set was getting elected. He's botched everything else.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:05 AM (cfSRQ)

241 I've had several book/short story ideas knocking around in my noggin for quite a long time. Maybe one of these days I can get my ADD ass to focus long enough to start one.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:05 AM (NWiLs)

242 At one point about a decade ago there were over 800 people in prison for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide. It may be more today.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 11:05 AM (2DOZq)

243 There are a lot of guys doing time for murder who are there because one specific person just monumentally pissed them off, possibly by doing something that would cause just about anyone to react violently.

They're not really much of a danger to the general public.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (Ewo9R)

They could easily get pissed off again. And some of these inspirations for violence are things like community property, difference of opinions, and wanting something you can't have without stealing and killing for it. In the case of killing someone who is raping your kid, you should get an award, but many violent actions are spawned by stuff like "my sister wouldn't give me drug money." The bitch!

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:08 AM (ONvIw)

244 Little Known Muldoon Fact #1176: Machiavelli's original working title for his seminal work was "The Artist". The publisher convince him to change it, but he insisted on a subtitle, so it was published as "The Prince: (Formerly known as "Artist")

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:08 AM (m45I2)

245 Rare Book Room.

Sounds like a place for me. Making tea.

Posted by: Pussy Galore at February 23, 2020 11:08 AM (doAIC)

246 My son understands "The Prince." "It's better to be feared than hated."

My name in Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 11:08 AM (2BZBZ)

247 242 At one point about a decade ago there were over 800 people in prison for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide. It may be more today.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 11:05 AM (2DOZq)


The death penalty is a sure and certain solution for recidivism.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (eA950)

248 That Jefferson didn't see the obvious way out of his money troubles has always amazed & fascinated me.

Did I mention "obvious"?

....

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:38 AM (Cssks)

But there would have been the problem of winning cases because he was an ex-president and a Founding Father.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (/+bwe)

249
His successor sponsors Marian consecrations. My previous parish is even more orthodox, using a variation of the Tridentine Mass. They have kneelers to take Communion, even.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:05 AM (cfSRQ)

Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too. I have seen nothing to verify this.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

250 Funny how the modern RCC expects the State to pay for everything.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (2BZBZ)

251 But Lenin... yeah, he needed Lenin to get people to follow them, and to believe in them, and to have a shining example of what communism COULD be... and then Stalin shoved him aside (and did probably kill him), and went about the decades long business of being the evil genius he was.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:02 AM (hku12)


I don't know if he killed him but there's a picture of Lenin after he'd had a stroke or something fucking up his noggin and he looked really bad, like nothing going on upstairs. Don't get me wrong, the Georgian gimp was as ruthless as it gets and quite an opportunist but Lenin wasn't capable of running a fucking thing after that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:10 AM (y7DUB)

252 239

Countdown to Busty Tavern Wench as a nic in 3, 2, 1 ....

Posted by: Pussy Galore at February 23, 2020 11:10 AM (doAIC)

253 The death penalty is applied not out of hatred or a wish of retribution, but out of a duty to protect the innocent. The unrepentant murderer is a danger, as is the rabid dog, and must be put down for the same reasons. Not for revenge, or out of hatred of either dog or murderer, but simply because given the opportunity the dog will do harm (through no fault of his own) as will the murderer (of his own free will), and so both must be removed as a threat. No more, no less.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (ZXnzo)

254 Garden Variety Murdererers would be a good name for a band.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (PUmDY)

255 The death penalty is a sure and certain solution for recidivism.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (eA950)

Occupationally, I have spoken with a number of murderers, some mentally ill, some not, and I say they should never return to society.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

256 I'd love to debate someone about that. "This guy killed, shows no remorse, will kill again if given the chance, so it's my responsibility to clothe and feed him...why? Show me the scripture where we are told to forgive those who refuse to repent."

There's lots of places in the Bible that show capital punishment and frequent exhortations that those who live by the sword will die by it.

I'm aware of nothing in there that creates a moral requirement for a 'leisure class' of unrepentant murderers.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)


All true. But I have seen such nonsense put out by American bishops in the last 30 years to know that these are considerations that it would not even occur to them.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (eA950)

257 I went to the March for Life. There was a Mass at the Basilica the day before. There is an order of nuns where apparently they are all young and beautiful. Gray habit with blue fronts/backs. Absolutely angelic.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (2BZBZ)

258 Death penalty. Mansons and Dahmers should not live. I am also aware that some on death row were exonerated due to modern advancements in genetic testing. The system is not perfect. Also, I can't imagine why any christian church would support capital punishment.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:12 AM (eXYC7)

259 If piss matthews is saying he'd rather have President Trump than Bernie, it will fun to watch the Fake Republicans-For-Media make their case for Bernie.

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Shots fired!
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(((AG)))@AGHamilton29
Btw the schmucks who spent the last 2 years loudly declaring they will support any Dem should think about the incentives they created. As was always obvious, they removed any incentive for Dems to moderate or appeal to anyone but the extreme base.

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More at the link.

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)

260 Yeah, so this is a leap year, which means babies can be born on February 29th and only age at .25 the rate everyone else does.

Slightly less, assuming they make it to the year 2100 which won't be a leap year.

-- Pedants Are Us We.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 23, 2020 11:12 AM (qc+VF)

261 > At one point about a decade ago there were over 800 people in prison for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide. It may be more today.

According to the Bureau of Prisons web site, there are currently over 5,000 people in federal prison for homicide, and that's just at the federal level. The overwhelming majority of homicide cases are charged at the state level.

So 800 is not really very many.

Yeah, I'd have no problem with a "frequent flier" program for multiple offenders, gang-related killings, botched robberies, and so on.

But what about the guy whose kid got molested and proceeded to beat the perpetrator to death?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:13 AM (Ewo9R)

262
Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too. I have seen nothing to verify this.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM (ONvIw)
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I have.

Nuns were all but invisible when I started going to mass and now they're very much out and about. Lots of young women looking into the vocations in my diocese.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)

263 Francis is the Obama of Popes.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 11:14 AM (2BZBZ)

264 Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too.


********

Probably in nonconventional ways.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (m45I2)

265 > And some of these inspirations for violence are things like community property, difference of opinions, and wanting something you can't have without stealing and killing for it.

That's why we have judges, juries, and parole boards, innit?

What about the guy who kills the guy who raped his kid?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (Ewo9R)

266 Another good book on musicj is Testimony by Dimitri Shostakovich. Actually, there is some question as to he actually wrote it and it was smuggled out or whether it is merely anti-communist propaganda (although most of the incidents clearly happened). Dimitri welcomed the revolution, liberated pianos from the 1%, put them on flatbed trucks and rode around entertaining thex proletariat. Later Stalin took a more hands on approach to the arts and Dimitri constantly feared that a melodic or harmonic choice would lead to a bullet in the back of his skull.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)


One of the subplots in Europe Central by William Vollman is Dmitri dealing with the creative process not getting him in deep shit with Stalin.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (y7DUB)

267 Morning book lovin' Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (TGayj)

268 Nun shall pass!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

269 Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too.


********

Probably in nonconventional ways.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (m45I2)



It's a habit. hahahah !

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:16 AM (eXYC7)

270 No more, no less.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (ZXnzo

I would add respect for the life that was taken. The criminals life is somehow more valuable? And to give loved ones closure on their suffering, if that's even possible.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at February 23, 2020 11:16 AM (Orx/W)

271 But what about the guy whose kid got molested and proceeded to beat the perpetrator to death?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:13 AM (Ewo9R)


I would think that the number of these sorts of crimes are vanishingly small. I know that vigilantism makes for good fiction writing, but good men don't usually have it in them to beat a bad man to death.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (eA950)

272 217 Burt

Jefferson was a successful & much-admired attorney in private practice, as a young man.

I think he decided to return to farming because that's what gentlemen of his class were expected to do in their golden years, i.e., emulate George Washington & Cincinnatus.

His financial troubles weren't that much different from other planters. They were all up to their adz in debt.

That he died broke, imo, reflects a failure of imagination. His "plantation" consisted of several small farms which weren't contiguous. Making his operation profitable, & getting it out of hock, was perhaps impossible.

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (Cssks)

273 Start Me Up takes a lot of crap, the dead man lyric is awesome

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (PUmDY)

274

Can I join the Boy nuns?

Posted by: saf at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (5IHGB)

275 Repeat offenders, certainly. Hit men, serial killers, and so on.

I think I've read that garden-variety murderers are one of the LEAST likely to reoffend.

There are a lot of guys doing time for murder who are there because one specific person just monumentally pissed them off, possibly by doing something that would cause just about anyone to react violently.

They're not really much of a danger to the general public.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:03 AM (Ewo9R)


I think that's generally true.

I've worked with many ex-offenders, including several who have killed. They have often absorbed more of the concept of "rehabilitation" than other types of offenders. And so their actions are often, if not motivated by anything else, are geared toward staying out of the way of law enforcement.

Of the many myths about prison, one of the most pervasive is this notion that nobody learns anything in there, except how to be better at committing crimes. That might... MIGHT be true for low level street thugs who are just getting started in their careers, but guys who go to prison, often on those "spur of the moment" crimes, even if their whole lives up to that point had been leading toward it, they do get treatment, they do learn how to be better human beings, and they do come out often realizing they want no part of the thug life.

Sometimes they're robotic about it, spouting off what they "learned," but I think that's because they don't quite believe in themselves.. yet. But a guy who has been to prison, and has learned how to be a good citizen, they're often better at it than people who have never been in trouble at all in their lives.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (hku12)

276 Brother Number 2 Nuon Chea said once that when the Khmer Rouge came into power they did not realize how hard it was and how much was involved in running the country.

Nothing worked, so they blamed saboteurs, the CIA and eventually each other.

Killing is all they were good at.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 11:18 AM (Z+IKu)

277 Rob Schneider impersonates Sundown.

Rob Schneider@RobSchneider
"Hi, I am @JoeBiden and I just did pretty good in Nevada! Now let's go on to South Korea and let's win there too!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2020 11:18 AM (+y/Ru)

278 Brother Number 2 Nuon Chea said once that when the Khmer Rouge came into power they did not realize how hard it was and how much was involved in running the country.

Nothing worked, so they blamed saboteurs, the CIA and eventually each other.

Killing is all they were good at.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 11:18 AM (Z+IKu)


Shoulda read The Prince !

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (eXYC7)

279 Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too. I have seen nothing to verify this.
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:09 AM

I switched donation money from my alma mater to the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist. Their motherhouse was in Ann Arbor and they had 4 nuns in the late 1990s. They have over 130 now, which is amazing growth.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (/+bwe)

280 "What about the guy who kills the guy who raped his kid?





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:15 AM (Ewo9R) "


After the act occurred? He cops to manslaughter and gets out after 6 with good behavior.
In order to have a working society its members must agree to adhere to the rules, and one of the rules is you don't take the law into your own hands. Now, if the guy comes upon the molester in the act (as happened in Texas once upon a time) the longest part of his trial should be the debate on what day the parade is held.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (ZXnzo)

281 All true. But I have seen such nonsense put out by
American bishops in the last 30 years to know that these are
considerations that it would not even occur to them.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:11 AM (eA950)

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Things are changing.

The bishops did not like Francis shutting down their reform effort and ended up implementing it anyway after observing his pause and seeing his empty gestures.

McCarrick's treatment was scandalous and outraged a lot of leaders as well as the laity.

Not too long ago a bunch of seminarians in Buffalo reported their instructors for inappropriately obscene language. All the priests involved were suspended and it looks like the bishop is getting investigated as well.

The Church goes through cycles, just like everything else. We had a period of complacency, decay and then crisis. Now we are moving into reform.

The pews are emptier, the donations are down, but the faith seems stronger. A lot of cradle Catholics seem to have bailed, but they were of the Pelosi/Biden variety who never really bought into all of it anyway.

Lots of interesting debates as well. One could do a thread on this, incorporating the writers at First Things, Human Events and elsewhere.

In fact, I'm planning on getting a subscription to First Things. Seems much more interesting and intellectual than anything National Review has done in a decade.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (cfSRQ)

282 So all Jefferson needed was a crime of the century to defend in court.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 11:20 AM (ZCEU2)

283 61 Mrs Bernie Sanders as flotus. I would rather Yoko Ono.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:36 AM (PUmDY)

Our eyes would be sore from all the rolling at "fashion" magazines gushing over her innate style, grace and beauty.

Posted by: Gem at February 23, 2020 11:21 AM (65i3Q)

284 > I would think that the number of these sorts of crimes are vanishingly small.

I have no idea how many there are, but I had an aunt who was the victim of an attempted date rape when she was a young teen. Smacked her around. Yanked out some of her hair before she could get out of the car.

Her brother beat the living shit out of the scumbag. I mean he fucked him right the hell up. Broken jaw, numerous other injuries.


Suppose he'd gone a little bit too far? Automatic death penalty for him, you guys are saying?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (Ewo9R)

285 276 Brother Number 2 Nuon Chea said once that when the Khmer Rouge came into power they did not realize how hard it was and how much was involved in running the country.

Nothing worked, so they blamed saboteurs, the CIA and eventually each other.

Killing is all they were good at.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 11:18 AM (Z+IKu)

See? It didn't have the right people at the top.

Posted by: Commies in the Dem Party, BIRM at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (1CjJc)

286 I have read three biographies of Thomas Jefferson. He was my favorite founding father. He was the original small government conservative. Yes, when he died he had a great mass of dept built up but it was not all his fault. His father died and left him a massive amount of debt.
He
did try farming because that was the love of his life but he never could seem to break even. And that was mainly because the upper class in VA at the time were expected to entertain visitors lavishly when they decided to drop in. And he had a lot of visitors. His wine bill was immense. And all that was financed through creditors. He also spent lavishly on books which added to all that.






Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 11:23 AM (mpXpK)

287 Now would be a good time to spread the coronavirus on the Nork leadership.


Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 11:23 AM (45Em2)

288 I switched donation money from my alma mater to the
Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist. Their motherhouse was in Ann
Arbor and they had 4 nuns in the late 1990s. They have over 130 now,
which is amazing growth.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (/+bwe)

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Yes, I've heard about that.

I see some of the sisters at the early morning daily mass. Hard to explain, but I find their presence very comforting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)

289 I'm about finished with a bio of Augustus, by Adrian Goldsworthy.

Rome should've started it's own space program.*

*(a blue water navy)

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 11:24 AM (Cssks)

290 Her brother beat the living shit out of the scumbag. I mean he fucked him right the hell up. Broken jaw, numerous other injuries.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (Ewo9R)

Old ways are best.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2020 11:24 AM (1CjJc)

291 Suppose he'd gone a little bit too far? Automatic death penalty for him, you guys are saying?





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (Ewo9R)


Not at all, but there must be an atonement. The proper course of action in a civilized world would be for the attempted date raper to make an appearance in a court of law to be tried by a jury of his peers. However, if the brother was to appear before the judge instead...I don't think there is a jury in the land that would recommend a death penalty.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:24 AM (ZXnzo)

292 But Lenin... yeah, he needed Lenin to get people to follow them, and to believe in them, and to have a shining example of what communism COULD be... and then Stalin shoved him aside (and did probably kill him), and went about the decades long business of being the evil genius he was.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:02 AM (hku12)

I don't know if he killed him but there's a picture of Lenin after he'd had a stroke or something fucking up his noggin and he looked really bad, like nothing going on upstairs. Don't get me wrong, the Georgian gimp was as ruthless as it gets and quite an opportunist but Lenin wasn't capable of running a fucking thing after that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:10 AM (y7DUB)


Yeah, one of those "lost to history" details that will never been known... but we certainly know Stalin was capable of it, and once Lenin was incapacitated, the scurry for power would have been on. Better to seal the deal early, rather than wait.

I don't remember what actual "evidence" there might be for it, but I think it's more than just "yeah, Stalin COULD do something like that."

Ironically enough, I believe there is even more evidence that Khrushchev had Stalin put down, once the old man was safely incapacitated. And if I recall correctly, his ailments were more physical, so his mind would have remained sharp, as the shoe-pounder was putting the pillow over his face.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:25 AM (hku12)

293 There's something about Mary !

Posted by: saf at February 23, 2020 11:25 AM (5IHGB)

294 But what about the guy whose kid got molested and proceeded to beat the perpetrator to death?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:13 AM (Ewo9R)

They should get an award, IMO.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

295 Suppose he'd gone a little bit too far? Automatic death penalty for him, you guys are saying?





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (Ewo9R)

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No.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:26 AM (cfSRQ)

296 What I don't get is the opposition to wal mart.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 11:26 AM (PUmDY)

297 Mrs. Squirrel and i read a great book titled, "Goodbye Things." It is written by a Japanese author and turns Marie Kondo's minimalism dial from 7 to 11.
Essentially, the author states that the things you are hoarding or holding onto are physical and emotional baggage that clutter your daily life and head. He says that you should give most of your stuff away to people who need it, or sell it, and live simply.
He says you won't miss the things you part with.
To be honest, the wife and i both had positive takeaways from the book. I got rid of a bunch of books i was planning on reading and never did; scanned numerous work papers and got rid of originals. Cleaned out a ton of stuff from the house, and you know what? I don't miss any of it. all of my knickknacks from jobs and deployments cluttering the shelves- what was it for? to show others what i did? Yeah, probably so. That is another point he makes- when your house looks like a museum of stuff, ask yourself- who is this stuff for?
I high recommend the book to the Horde. There are a lot of great points he makes. While he isn't a philosopher, there are certainly thought provoking maxims and ideas he has, and i would encourage you to pick it up.
Wife and i realized that we don't need things- and the things we already have are too much; we want to save money for trips and have experiences. Hell i'm even trying to downsize our home to a shipping container or two!

Posted by: secret squirrel at February 23, 2020 11:26 AM (xyImL)

298 (From the Onion : Guide to 2020 dem candidates)

Joe Biden :

Birthplace: Middle Class, Swing State, USA
Electoral Strategy: Inertia
Greatest Liability: Prone to speaking publicly
Anticipated VP Pick: Stacey Abrams or the other one
Position On Iraq War: All of them
Campaign Bus: Desegregated during middle of 2008 run
Biggest Endorsement: "Hi, you've reached Barack Obama's voicemail"
Number Of Accusations Of Acting Inappropriately Toward Women And Girls: Butter pecan, with mint chocolate chip a very close second

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (eXYC7)

299 And if I recall correctly, his ailments were more physical, so his mind would have remained sharp, as the shoe-pounder was putting the pillow over his face.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:25 AM (hku12)

A happy ending.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (1CjJc)

300
I can tell why nuns are making a comeback:

Because the nunnery has become the Girl Scouts group for adult, angry, bitter,
pious, leftist girls who prefer the company of like-minded and like-bodied individuals.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (ZSUyT)

301 They will still give him all superdelegates.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (eXYC7)

302 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:13 AM (Ewo9R)

The point is that 800 or more people were murdered when that could have been prevented. And based on your and my statistics that means 16% of those in prison had killed again after being released. That's not an insignificant percentage.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 11:28 AM (2DOZq)

303 Suppose he'd gone a little bit too far? Automatic death penalty for him, you guys are saying?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:22 AM (Ewo9R)

Of course not. And this was not uncommon in the good old days. I had a cousin who experienced something similar, a policeman neighbor and his friends, handled the matter personally. The perp pressed no charges, in the 60s he wouldn't have dared, now I'm not so sure.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:29 AM (ONvIw)

304 I can tell why nuns are making a comeback:

Because the nunnery has become the Girl Scouts group for adult, angry, bitter,
pious, leftist girls who prefer the company of like-minded and like-bodied individuals.


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (ZSUyT)

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Alternatively, women are seeing that disaster that modern feminism has produced and look for something more meaningful than hate tweets and careerism.

Or are you saying women can't feel a call to serve God?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (cfSRQ)

305 Someone told me that nuns are making a comeback, too. I have seen nothing to verify this.
Posted by: CN

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Recently our parish has seen an uptick in nuns attending Mass. When I was in DC last month, loads of nuns - it was the March 4 Life after all but what was striking was they were mostly very young. And many, many novices.

Our parish has also reverted to more traditional memes - some women wearing veils, kneeling for communion, reestablishing Perpetual Adoration, etc.

P. Frankie isn't well thought of here.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (Y4EXg)

306 272 217 Burt

Jefferson was a successful & much-admired attorney in private practice, as a young man.

I think he decided to return to farming because that's what gentlemen of his class were expected to do in their golden years, i.e., emulate George Washington & Cincinnatus.

His financial troubles weren't that much different from other planters. They were all up to their adz in debt.

That he died broke, imo, reflects a failure of imagination. His "plantation" consisted of several small farms which weren't contiguous. Making his operation profitable, & getting it out of hock, was perhaps impossible.
Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 11:17 AM (Cssks)


Meh. I'd be curious what his contemporaries thought of his "successful and much admired" lawyering, at the time, rather than later. He was basically still a kid when he "wrote" the Declaration.

His financial troubles weren't limited to his "farming," in that he had that boondoggle of a house he kept sinking money into.

Jefferson fancied himself an architect.

He wasn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

307
Yeah, prepare yourselves for Fake News and their paid shills, the Media Republicans, telling you that Bernie "shares many" of President Trump's anti-establishment attitudes and policies.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (ZSUyT)

308 Back from a long constitutional with the lively and athletic Mrs naturalfake.

What's new at the zoo?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (z0XD8)

309
that's IF Bernie gets the nom

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:30 AM (ZSUyT)

310 Because the nunnery has become the Girl Scouts group for adult, angry, bitter,
pious, leftist girls who prefer the company of like-minded and like-bodied individuals.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (ZSUyT)

This would surprise me, but I was hoping that it was a reaction against a lawless society, not an expression of condoning one.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

311 Tom Waits has sold more records than me, but I think it's only because I haven't made any.
Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 10:36 AM (X/Pw5)


Tom Waits' voice sounds like he is shoveling wet cement, but his music is intricate. I love the album Bone Machine. It is not ABBA, and he isn't very pretty, but I find the music compelling.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (6rS3m)

312 Well I today will start the actual rewriting of a novel. The 38 pages of story I printed out are now covered in rewrites, deletions, and fleshing out the background.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (Rdohv)

313 In fact, I'm planning on getting a subscription to First Things. Seems much more interesting and intellectual than anything National Review has done in a decade.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (cfSRQ)


Concur.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:32 AM (eA950)

314 Ironically enough, I believe there is even more evidence that Khrushchev had Stalin put down, once the old man was safely incapacitated. And if I recall correctly, his ailments were more physical, so his mind would have remained sharp, as the shoe-pounder was putting the pillow over his face.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:25 AM (hku12)


I remember as a youth thinking Nikita looked like the devil incarnate but that was at a time when our unfree press worshiped Saint JFK and would have made anyone opposing that bumbling pervert look terrible. Anyway, Khrushchev was Ukrainian and surely harbored some very bad feelings of what Stalin inflicted on his home.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

315 When your bishop gets out of line, beat him.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

316 Mrs. Squirrel and i read a great book titled, "Goodbye Things." It is written by a Japanese author and turns Marie Kondo's minimalism dial from 7 to 11.

...

I read that this past summer, and it was quirky but great. When he realized that he was using things to define himself, that really hit home for me.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 11:33 AM (/+bwe)

317 > And based on your and my statistics that means 16% of those in prison had killed again after being released.

Go back and read the part about "federal prison alone" again.

It's not "16%", or anything like it.

https://tinyurl.com/wem4tva

The recidivism rate for homicide is about 1.2%, and I would bet virtually all of those have a long history of other violent crimes.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 11:34 AM (Ewo9R)

318 Here comes...Warren?


National YouGov Poll: (Change from last week)

Sanders 28% (+4) Warren 19% (+3) Biden 17% (-1) Bloomberg 13% (+1) Buttigieg 10% (-1) Klobuchar 5% (-2) Steyer 2% (-)

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 11:34 AM (45Em2)

319 Tom Waits' voice sounds like he is shoveling wet cement, but his music is intricate. I love the album Bone Machine. It is not ABBA, and he isn't very pretty, but I find the music compelling.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (6rS3m)

He definitely comes from the whiskey and cigarettes school of voice coaching

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:34 AM (NWiLs)

320 Oh, yes. Marie Kondo. Here is funny story, she now has a line of merchandise for sale. Think about it....

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:35 AM (eXYC7)

321 315
When your bishop gets out of line, beat him.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

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That euphemism never made sense to me.

"Wrestling the bald-headed champ," on the other hand, still makes me laugh. In fact, I'm giggling as I type it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:35 AM (cfSRQ)

322 Oh No Yoko as US diplomat toPyongyang?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (Rdohv)

323 So all Jefferson needed was a crime of the century to defend in court.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 11:20 AM (ZCEU2)


Maybe an innocent black kid, accused of rapin' a white woman. Townfolk want to string him up, but ol' Jefferson, he thinks the boy dint doit!

I can see the ending speech now.....

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (hku12)

324 >>Tom Waits' voice sounds like he is shoveling wet cement, but his music is intricate. I love the album Bone Machine. It is not ABBA, and he isn't very pretty, but I find the music compelling.

Me too.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

325 322 Oh No Yoko as US diplomat toPyongyang?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (Rdohv)

Certain to be interpreted as an act of war.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (NWiLs)

326 Captain Hate, glad you liked Northanger Abbey.

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)

327 Tom Waits is a better actor than musician.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 11:37 AM (PUmDY)

328 "Wrestling the bald-headed champ," on the other hand, still makes me laugh. In fact, I'm giggling as I type it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:35 AM (cfSRQ)

Now that's one I've actually never heard before. Learn something new every day around here!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:37 AM (NWiLs)

329 >>Tom Waits is a better actor than musician.

He's a better song writer than either.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:38 AM (ZLI7S)

330 Now, if the guy comes upon the molester in the act
(as happened in Texas once upon a time) the longest part of his trial
should be the debate on what day the parade is held.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (ZXnzo)

I have a friend who has a daughter that was repeatedly molested by his ex wife's live in boyfriend. At the trial the cops in a round about way told my friend it would be a real shame if something happened to him *wink wink*. My friend who is far from stupid knew better.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 11:38 AM (9Om/r)

331 I read that this past summer, and it was quirky but great. When he realized that he was using things to define himself, that really hit home for me.
Posted by: NaughtyPine

Great point- i felt the same way- hence the purge of so many things i thought i needed or held on to for silly or baseless reasons. As Tyler Durdan said, "The things you own...end up owning you."

Posted by: secret squirrel at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (xyImL)

332 I have a friend who has a daughter that was repeatedly molested by his ex wife's live in boyfriend. At the trial the cops in a round about way told my friend it would be a real shame if something happened to him *wink wink*. My friend who is far from stupid knew better.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 11:38 AM (9Om/r)

When he's on trial, the time for shoot, shovel and shut up has passed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (NWiLs)

333 Oh, yes. Marie Kondo. Here is funny story, she now has a line of merchandise for sale. Think about it....
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:35 AM (eXYC7)


It's a trap. If you buy it, your name goes onto a list. One day, years from now, she'll be doing events at post-apocalyptic stadiums for throngs of starving, irradiated followers, and at the grand finale, she'll bring out the shambling wretches, chained together.

"These ones... they did not find the Spark of Joy."

*shakes head sadly, then cups ear to crowd*

"What do we do, friends, with things that do not Spark Joy?"

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (t+qrx)

334 Captain Hate, glad you liked Northanger Abbey.
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)


Yes, I was pleased to see when I entered it into Goodreads your and my older daughter's reviews popped up as my friends reactions.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (y7DUB)

335 Ironically enough, I believe there is even more evidence that Khrushchev had Stalin put down, once the old man was safely incapacitated. And if I recall correctly, his ailments were more physical, so his mind would have remained sharp, as the shoe-pounder was putting the pillow over his face.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:25 AM (hku12)

I remember as a youth thinking Nikita looked like the devil incarnate but that was at a time when our unfree press worshiped Saint JFK and would have made anyone opposing that bumbling pervert look terrible. Anyway, Khrushchev was Ukrainian and surely harbored some very bad feelings of what Stalin inflicted on his home.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:32 AM (y7DUB)


There is of course, the probably not true story, that Stalin was told by Lenin, that after ol' Lenin kicks the bucket, when times get tough, for Stalin to blame it all on him. After all, being a good commie, Lenin figured once he was dead, it won't matter to him if everyone blames him for the economic troubles.

Fast forward several decades, and Khrushchev is now the Grand Poobah. As he assumes and is consolidating his power, he is handed a letter from Stalin. In it, Stalin tells him "when things get tough, economically, go ahead and blame me for it, because I'll be a rotting corpse, and it won't bother me none."

Or words to that effect.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)

336 Because the nunnery has become the Girl Scouts group for adult, angry, bitter,
pious, leftist girls who prefer the company of like-minded and like-bodied individuals.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:27 AM (ZSUyT)

This would surprise me, but I was hoping that it was a reaction against a lawless society, not an expression of condoning one.
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

I don't believe leftie screechers would tolerate the vows of poverty and chastity, let alone obedience. Offering up your work, your pain, and your sacrifice without complaining or self-aggrandizing? Impossible for the self-absorbed.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 23, 2020 11:41 AM (/+bwe)

337 When he's on trial, the time for shoot, shovel and shut up has passed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (NWiLs)

That's a great line.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:41 AM (ONvIw)

338 When he's on trial, the time for shoot, shovel and shut up has passed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (NWiLs)

Exactly, although I think they were talking about in case he got away with it. Before the trial he was actually entertaining the thought of hunting him with an M1 Garand, but came to his senses.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 11:42 AM (9Om/r)

339 Finally finished Wages of Destruction, by Adam Tooze. Economics of the Nazi regime, and the late Weimar. Overall very good, especially as this critical aspect is not much discussed or covered in most histories.

He goes hard at what he calls the myth of the "armaments miracle" under Speer - not denying the numbers, but laying out how heavy investment in '41-'42, and massive increase in inputs (including forced labor), were as much responsible for the increases in production as "rationalization" or magic from the top.

One of his best angles, but not pursued very far, is how post-war assessments (US Strategic Bombing Survey, and the British equivalent) greatly under-estimated the impact of the bombing. He might have explored this more in other publications, I haven't scoured his extensive reference notes on this yet.

As seems almost standard now, at least with British historians, there were the odd moral equivalence asides. Wacky one was raising the US westward expansion/manifest destiny as an inspiration for Hitler's eastern "Lebensraum" project (huh? WTF?). Silly one was implying that the US and Allies - out of revenge - deliberately kept Germany barely above water, economically etc., in the early post-war years.

Reading the foreword to the next book in the pile, the oddly titled "Hitler Book" (the intel briefing for Stalin about Hitler prepared by Soviet analysts who'd interrogated the Hitler staff captured in Berlin), the respected British historian Overy manages to call Stalin a "populist politician". Dude.

Seems many of today's best historians share this odd moral judgement lapse, they almost have a need to blur the lines, against the facts, as the actual fairly clear story cannot be quite accepted by a culture mau-mau'd into doubting itself and even its best moments.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 11:43 AM (El6T/)

340 WISCONSIN: Sanders 30% Bloomberg 13% Biden 13% Buttigieg 12% Warren 12% Klobuchar 9%

MICHIGAN: Sanders 25 Biden 16 Bloomberg 13 Warren 13 Buttigieg 11 Klobuchar 8%

PENNSYLVANIA: Sanders 25 Biden 20 Bloomberg 19 Buttigieg 12 Warren 9 Klobuchar 5 Yougov/

@ElectionsCenter

2/11-20

Posted by: Ha at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (45Em2)

341 I love the booknooks. Now I need to get daughter a Sherlock Holmes one.

Reading The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie, by Alan Bradley. Recommended by said daughter and so far, its a very enjoyable post WWII crime mystery with an 11 year old girl and the very capable sleuth. Not YA though. I hope it continues to be good because there are several books in the series.

Posted by: LASue at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

342 It's a trap. If you buy it, your name goes onto a list. One day, years from now, she'll be doing events at post-apocalyptic stadiums for throngs of starving, irradiated followers, and at the grand finale, she'll bring out the shambling wretches, chained together.

"These ones... they did not find the Spark of Joy."

*shakes head sadly, then cups ear to crowd*

"What do we do, friends, with things that do not Spark Joy?"
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (t+qrx)

" I trashed my colander mask and bought KonMarie small bubble bud vase...what now ??"

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (eXYC7)

343
Ever notice you hardly ever see Nuns at pro-life rallies?


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:45 AM (ZSUyT)

344 Tom Waits is a better actor than musician.
------------------------
He's a better song writer than either.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:38 AM (ZLI7S)


In the movie "Dead Don't Die" he's an astoundingly good Nick Nolte, drunk and disheveled, impersonator.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:45 AM (hku12)

345
Today's nuns are feminists and Democrat voters.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:45 AM (ZSUyT)

346 Ever notice you hardly ever see Nuns at pro-life rallies?

Posted by: Soothsayer

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Huh? There were thousands when I was there.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 11:46 AM (Y4EXg)

347 Anyway, gotta get ready for lunch.

Now that I've taken the plunge into vampires, maybe Christopher's werewolf will be next.

Have a great Sunday

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:46 AM (ONvIw)

348 Exactly, although I think they were talking about in case he got away with it. Before the trial he was actually entertaining the thought of hunting him with an M1 Garand, but came to his senses.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 11:42 AM (9Om/r)

Fair enough. I certainly couldn't blame the guy if he had though. Not a great choice of weapon if he wanted to stay under the radar. You'd want to use something ubiquitous and easily disposed of.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)

349
Some nuns are better than others.


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:47 AM (ZSUyT)

350 " I trashed my colander mask and bought KonMarie small bubble bud vase...what now ??"

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (eXYC7)

In the Burning Times, my colander face mask will bring me much joy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:47 AM (NWiLs)

351 When he's on trial, the time for shoot, shovel and shut up has passed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:39 AM (NWiLs)

That's a great line.
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 11:41 AM (ONvIw)


In the movie Clueless, Dan Hedaya's character tells a guy dating his daughter, Alicia Silverstone "if anything happens to my daughter, I got a .45 and a shovel; I doubt anyone would miss you."

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (y7DUB)

352 >>In the movie "Dead Don't Die" he's an astoundingly good Nick Nolte, drunk and disheveled, impersonator.

Not exactly a stretch role of Waits.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)

353 Trying to come up with a way to work "sun's out, nuns out" into a comment here, but drawing a blank.

Gonna go clean the garage a bit.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (t+qrx)

354
Huh? There were thousands when I was there.


Posted by: Tonypete



Those were penguins.
Penguins.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (ZSUyT)

355 for

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)

356 About Jefferson. People forget these guys took a couple decades out of their lives to secure Independence and form a country/government with almost no pay. I can look past their personal financial issues.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (4thlk)

357 Half a Catholic's better than nun.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:49 AM (NWiLs)

358 >In the movie "Dead Don't Die" he's an astoundingly good Nick Nolte, drunk and disheveled, impersonator.

Not exactly a stretch role of Waits.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)


Like Crispin Glover playing a retard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (y7DUB)

359 Some nuns are better than others.


******

But in sum, nuns are better than otters

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (m45I2)

360
Seems many of today's best historians share this
odd moral judgement lapse, they almost have a need to blur the lines,
against the facts, as the actual fairly clear story cannot be quite
accepted by a culture mau-mau'd into doubting itself and even its best
moments.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2020 11:43 AM (El6T/)

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Try reading about the Spanish Civil War.

Most of it is hot communist propaganda garbage.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (cfSRQ)

361 Yesterday, I found a Folio Society edition of-

"The Great Plague in London"

for a pittance. So, I picked it up.


Thought it would be interesting for a contrast and compare depending on what happens vis a vis - 600+ years ago vs today.

as human nature doesn't really change.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (z0XD8)

362
I'll hear nun of it!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (ZSUyT)

363 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 23, 2020 11:19 AM (ZXnzo)

I have a friend who has a daughter that was repeatedly molested by his ex wife's live in boyfriend. At the trial the cops in a round about way told my friend it would be a real shame if something happened to him *wink wink*. My friend who is far from stupid knew better.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2020 11:38 AM (9Om/r)


Given how many kids are sexually molested by moms' boyfriends and uncles and older siblings, often half/step, I'm sure that more than a few of those cases we see show up on the news, where somebody supposedly kills a family member for taking the last piece of chicken, are not really about squabbles over food or what to watch on tv.

They're kills because somebody catches somebody in the kid's room.

But it doesn't seem cops or prosecutors are doing much considering of mitigating circumstances.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (hku12)

364 But in sum, nuns are better than otters
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (m45I2)


This man is gifted.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (aS1PU)

365 I'll hear nun of it!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (ZSUyT)


You sound cross.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (eXYC7)

366 Maybe an innocent black kid, accused of rapin' a white woman. Townfolk
want to string him up, but ol' Jefferson, he thinks the boy dint doit!

=====

I think John Adams made his bones by defending some Brit soldiers at risk from a mob.

Probably Adams is my favorite founder as a person (although his wife is right up there as well). His son seemed ineffectual, but then went and spent the rest of his life in the House of Reps, and was proud to do so.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (MIKMs)

367 Nuns butts the best


Oh I am so going to Hell in a hand basket

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)

368 365 I'll hear nun of it!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (ZSUyT)


You sound cross.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (eXYC7)

It's a habit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (NWiLs)

369

Some Nuns Are Better - a limerick

An erstwhile street hooker named Hemphill
Found peace in a nunnery, 'twas simple
She forsook her former friends
And thus her sinful era ends
No, not with a bang, but a wimple

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (m45I2)

370 Today's nuns are feminists and Democrat voters.


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:45 AM (ZSUyT)

---
Lots of Boomer nuns, absolutely.

Just like Boomer priests. They tried to take over the Church from within.

The new generation seems very different.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (cfSRQ)

371 Sooth,
Please knock it off. Nuns aren't the horse faced bullies of our youth. The nuns I see at Mass are sweet faced and kind. The parochial school kids flock to them for hugs and for encouragement. They sing like angels and are peaceful and protective. And I really enjoy seeing more of them.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 23, 2020 11:54 AM (PkVlr)

372 Nun desu ka?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (NWiLs)

373 Thought it would be interesting for a contrast and compare depending on what happens vis a vis - 600+ years ago vs today.



as human nature doesn't really change.



Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 11:50 AM (z0XD

---
Do you mean A Journal of the Plague Year by Defoe?

Great read. Really interesting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (cfSRQ)

374 I'll hear nun of it!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (ZSUyT)


You sound cross.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (eXYC7)

It's a habit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (NWiLs)


Makes cense.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (eXYC7)

375 315
When your bishop gets out of line, beat him.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)


I thought you usually flogged your bishop.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (eA950)

376 374 I'll hear nun of it!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 11:51 AM (ZSUyT)


You sound cross.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (eXYC7)

It's a habit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (NWiLs)


Makes cense.
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (eXYC7)

Don't let him fool you, he's actually a very gracious and welcoming host.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

377 >>I think John Adams made his bones by defending some Brit soldiers at risk from a mob.

Not just any old soldiers. It was the soldiers involved with the Boston Massacre. Defending them was not a very popular move at the time.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (ZLI7S)

378 375 315
When your bishop gets out of line, beat him.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

I thought bishops were usually flogged.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (eA950)

Dolphins.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

379 372
Nun desu ka?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (NWiLs)

---
Klaatu barada niktu!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (cfSRQ)

380 Nuns on the run!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 11:57 AM (eA950)

381 In the movie "Dead Don't Die" he's an astoundingly good Nick Nolte, drunk and disheveled, impersonator.
-----------------------------------------------
Not exactly a stretch role of Waits.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)


By the way, for anyone considering, the movie is NOT recommended.

It's a mess, and the biggest problem is not that it's supposed to be a Jim Jarmisch "comedy" about the zombie apocalypse, and it's not that the theme is kinda sorta globall warmening bullship. No, the biggest problem is they have a gazillion great actors in it, and nobody ever actually gets enough time on screen to become interesting characters. Not Bill Murray, not Adam Driver, and not any of the others, who you would really really like to see more of. Not least of all, Tilda Swinton.

Who, unsurprisingly, plays a weird "outsider."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:57 AM (hku12)

382 It's a habit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (NWiLs)

Change of Habit starring Elvis and MTM.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2020 11:57 AM (2DOZq)

383 Tom Waits' voice sounds like he is shoveling wet cement, but his music is intricate. I love the album Bone Machine. It is not ABBA, and he isn't very pretty, but I find the music compelling.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2020 11:31 AM (6rS3m)

I think he's a great songwriter.

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2020 11:58 AM (X/Pw5)

384 Nun desu ka?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (NWiLs)

---
Klaatu barada niktu!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (cfSRQ)

Kto Suka ??

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 11:58 AM (eXYC7)

385
Chaste, Yet Chased - a limerick

The madam was yelling "Dagnabbit"
If you must cop a feel then just grab it.
But don't ask the nun
If she wants to have fun
You ought not to get in the habit.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:59 AM (m45I2)

386 Lots of Boomer nuns, absolutely.

Just like Boomer priests. They tried to take over the Church from within.

The new generation seems very different.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:53 AM (cfSRQ)




The great untold story(novelwise) of the later half of the 20th Century and dribbling into the 21st-

is the take-over of all the foundational institutions of the West and the US,

by people who absolutely hate those institutions and wish to destroy them,

while simultaneously benefitting from the respect those institutions hold for those who believe in them.

I suspect there's a great novel or six in there.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 11:59 AM (z0XD8)

387 Neither here nor there my Dremel tool needs a new stop button, $2.99 for part and $5.95 to ship it and thats by slow mail. You could put part in a letter envelop and send it.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)

388 Got that title backwards. It should have been "Chased, But Still Chaste"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 12:00 PM (m45I2)

389 Chaste, Yet Chased - a limerick ....


Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 11:59 AM (m45I2)

👏 👏 👏

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:00 PM (eXYC7)

390 Reading burned up books and trying to stay hip

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:01 PM (PUmDY)

391 Maybe an innocent black kid, accused of rapin' a white woman. Townfolk
want to string him up, but ol' Jefferson, he thinks the boy dint doit!

=====

I think John Adams made his bones by defending some Brit soldiers at risk from a mob.

Probably Adams is my favorite founder as a person (although his wife is right up there as well). His son seemed ineffectual, but then went and spent the rest of his life in the House of Reps, and was proud to do so.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 11:52 AM (MIKMs)


Yeah, I'm much more partial to Adams, than Jefferson.

As most people know, Adams never thought much of Jefferson... for most of his life, and then toward the end, the two struck up a long and friendly correspondence.

Then both men went ahead and died on the same day: July 4, 1826.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)

392 Skip, are you an Amazon prime member ?

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:01 PM (eXYC7)

393 The Mother Superior was concerned about the dwindling numbers at the convent. She went to the Father to seek advice. "Father, there are fewer sisters each year. Many of the most faithful are aging and dying, and for the life of me I can't get any new initiates! What should I do?"

The Father leaned back in his chair and reflected a moment. "Well, the problem seems clear to me. If you don't start nun, there won't be nun."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 12:02 PM (NWiLs)

394 It's a mess, and the biggest problem is not that
it's supposed to be a Jim Jarmisch "comedy" about the zombie apocalypse,

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 11:57 AM (hku12)

---
Over the weekend I watched "Downfall," the source material for all the "Hitler Learns __" memes.

While watching, I realized that the original source material for the zombie apocalypse genre was Hitler in the bunker.

Now that The Vampires of Michigan has been published, I think I shall explore this in my next column for Bleedingfool.com.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 12:03 PM (cfSRQ)

395 Reading The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie, by Alan Bradley.
Posted by: LASue at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (Ed8Zd)



IT'S A COOKBOOK !!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Illiterate Literary Critic ... at February 23, 2020 12:03 PM (LPnfS)

396 Then both men went ahead and died on the same day: July 4, 1826.


*******

Simply amazing.
50 years to the day after the seminal event in Western History.


Coincidence or Providence?

Discuss.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)

397 Some cookbooks are masterpieces...just saying...

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:04 PM (eXYC7)

398 Do you mean A Journal of the Plague Year by Defoe?

Great read. Really interesting.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 11:55 AM (cfSRQ)



No, this is a history book by an English historian, Walter George Bell.

Though I should reread Danny Defoe's book as well.

The long view vs up close and personal.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 12:05 PM (z0XD8)

399 I think John Adams made his bones by defending some Brit soldiers at risk from a mob.
------------------------------------
Not just any old soldiers. It was the soldiers involved with the Boston Massacre. Defending them was not a very popular move at the time.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 11:56 AM (ZLI7S)


The mini-series, which I think was HBO, "Adams," with Paul Giamatti as the title character, is well worth seeing.

Pretty sure they were mostly historically accurate, and the casting is brilliant. Giamatti makes a great Adams... a man who was almost always right, and was insufferable at times because of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)

400 Neither here nor there my Dremel tool needs a new stop button, $2.99 for part and $5.95 to ship it and thats by slow mail. You could put part in a letter envelop and send it.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)


Dremel is great for some stuff, but not too many like it's oscillator/scraper. We went with Bosch. Arrived this week. On the way to pick it up got a call from the alarm company.

It's been a weird week.

Hope your part arrives pronto ...

Posted by: Adriane the Illiterate Literary Critic ... at February 23, 2020 12:07 PM (LPnfS)

401 No, had it as a freebee but never used it once.

Looking at those book nooks again, could carve a monster like some or go miniature.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:07 PM (ZCEU2)

402 Reading burned up books and trying to stay hip
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:01 PM (PUmDY)


You were screaming in Las Vegas? Attended one of the caucus ?

Posted by: Adriane the Illiterate Literary Critic ... at February 23, 2020 12:09 PM (LPnfS)

403 Then both men went ahead and died on the same day: July 4, 1826.


*******

Simply amazing.
50 years to the day after the seminal event in Western History.


Coincidence or Providence?

Discuss.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)


If anything it shows God has a sense of humor.

Otherwise, it doesn't seem important enough to warrant the Deity's attention.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:09 PM (hku12)

404 I have a Dremel multi-max as well, found a lld Craftsman dremel that seems to be working, no idea why I stopped using it, must be some reason.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:09 PM (ZCEU2)

405 Now that The Vampires of Michigan has been published, I think I shall explore this in my next column for Bleedingfool.com.
=====

LOL. I would dispute Vampires of MI unless they are parents of adolescents. I still remember the blood running down my chin from biting my tongue.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 12:10 PM (MIKMs)

406 The mini-series, which I think was HBO, "Adams," with Paul Giamatti as the title character, is well worth seeing.

Pretty sure they were mostly historically accurate, and the casting is brilliant. Giamatti makes a great Adams... a man who was almost always right, and was insufferable at times because of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)


Although I almost always shit all over movies being an inferior substitute for reading, I'd agree with everything you wrote.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 12:11 PM (y7DUB)

407 Say your prayers.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:13 PM (PUmDY)

408 Amazon doing a Lord of The Rings series.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:13 PM (eXYC7)

409 >>The mini-series, which I think was HBO, "Adams," with Paul Giamatti as the title character, is well worth seeing.

I agree. It is excellent.

Also the Freedom Trail in Boston is a must do for any history curious moron. The site of the Boston Massacre is one of the many sites on the walk that have been largely preserved.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

410 I'm old enough to recall 2008, when Obama, encouraging his supporters in Columbia, Mo saying '...we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.'

Also fresh in my memory is the hubris from the then WH 'occupant' that prolonged the Great recession, pushed unemployment to new heights--only to be exceeded by the spike in US debt. Wasted spending on alternative energy (Solyndra), cash for clunkers , not to mention the government-grab of health insurance.

I've seen enough of this. Now, new bottles of snake-oil are up for sale (release from college loans, M4A {O-care deux?}, NGD, gun control) by Bernie and AOC (& Warren). But, we should trust Bernie to get socialism right, this time.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice...

I was born at night. Just not last night.

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 12:15 PM (Roy2Z)

411 Say your prayers.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:13 PM (PUmDY)


Dear Lord,

Thank you for giving me a wonderful Grandmother who taught me how to read ...

Posted by: Adriane the Illiterate Literary Critic ... at February 23, 2020 12:15 PM (LPnfS)

412
If you've never seen John Adams, here's a good taste:

https://tinyurl.com/reyr4v6

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:15 PM (TiELo)

413 I don't remember how I learned to read. Think mom taught me.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:16 PM (eXYC7)

414 410 Dennis Prager plays that clip alot, adds if you love your wife or husband but want to fundamentally change them do you really?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 12:17 PM (ZCEU2)

415 he great untold story(novelwise) of the later half of the 20th Century and dribbling into the 21st-

is the take-over of all the foundational institutions of the West and the US,
by people who absolutely hate those institutions and wish to destroy them,

while simultaneously benefitting from the respect those institutions hold for those who believe in them.

I suspect there's a great novel or six in there.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 11:59 AM (z0XD


Right. I believe a great part of the "divisiveness" on social media and in public discourse these days is because the progs are walking around wearing the skins of these hollowed-out institutions and shouting "Respec' my authoritah!" Increasingly, their demands are being met with snorts of contempt, Bronx cheers, and mooning, which only makes the lefties shriek louder.

Because the devil cannot endure to be mocked.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 12:17 PM (eA950)

416 depending on what happens vis a vis - 600+ years ago vs today.


The Plague Year was 1665. (Defoe wrote about it around 1722.
Pepys kept a diary as it was actually going on.)That was about 350 years ago.
600 years ago was 1420. King Henry V was making speeches.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 12:18 PM (8IOEj)

417 If you've never seen John Adams, here's a good taste:

https://tinyurl.com/reyr4v6
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23,
2020 12:15 PM (TiELo)


That was a good series.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 12:18 PM (eA950)

418 LOL. I would dispute Vampires of MI unless they are
parents of adolescents. I still remember the blood running down my chin
from biting my tongue.


Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2020 12:10 PM (MIKMs)

---
You'll need to buy a copy first.

Probably more than one.

In fact, definitely.

Volume discounts are available!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 12:19 PM (cfSRQ)

419 White Wedding isn't bad either.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 12:19 PM (PUmDY)

420 Social media will wane in influence over time. It is new, it it hip - now. Cannot be sustained forever.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (eXYC7)

421


noood



Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (TiELo)

422 410 I'm old enough to recall 2008, when Obama, encouraging his supporters in Columbia, Mo saying '...we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.'

Posted by: socalcon at February 23, 2020 12:15 PM (Roy2Z)


And when somebody says they're going to "fundamentally transform" America, that's when you reach for your musket and cartridges.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 12:20 PM (eA950)

423 NOOD.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 23, 2020 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

424 In their old age, Adams and Jefferson used to go on about how the Revolution's true meaning had been lost, it was all over, all the purity had passed on with the founding generation, and all was now lost.

I quote them on here some nights. They fit right in.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 12:24 PM (8IOEj)

425 Simply amazing.

50 years to the day after the seminal event in Western History.





Coincidence or Providence?


Discuss.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)


A quirk of humanity. We hold on to life for a reason, when that has passed, we let go.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2020 12:29 PM (6rS3m)

426 I suffer from schizophrenia
It comes on me in spells
Sometimes I'm King of Armenia
And others I'm Orson Welles

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at February 23, 2020 12:30 PM (mq4fd)

427 ''In the movie Clueless, Dan Hedaya's character tells a guy dating his daughter, Alicia Silverstone "if anything happens to my daughter, I got a .45 and a shovel; I doubt anyone would miss you."''

That still makes me chuckle. Hedaya's delivery of that line was perfection.

Posted by: Tuna at February 23, 2020 12:30 PM (RueoN)

428 Speaking of Charlies Lindbergh, I see HBO is doing a mini-series of the Phillip Roth novel "The Plot Against America". An alternate history where Lindbergh becomes President instead of FDR.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 12:31 PM (e1mEI)

429 In their old age, Adams and Jefferson used to go on about how the Revolution's true meaning had been lost, it was all over, all the purity had passed on with the founding generation, and all was now lost.

I quote them on here some nights. They fit right in.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 12:24 PM (8IOEj)


Marbury v Madison was the beginning of the end. They should've had an Article V convention immediately and hanged a few black robed tyrants as a warning for the future.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 12:32 PM (y7DUB)

430 428
Now the half that wasn't typed in when the post key was hit due to coffee overdose jitters:

I always tried to get Lindberg as president when playing HOI4.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 23, 2020 12:36 PM (e1mEI)

431 "In their old age, Adams and Jefferson used to go
on about how the Revolution's true meaning had been lost, it was all
over, all the purity had passed on with the founding generation, and all
was now lost.
I quote them on here some nights. They fit right in. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
Marbury v Madison was the beginning of the end. They should've had
an Article V convention immediately and hanged a few black robed tyrants
as a warning for the future.Posted by: Captain Hate


thanks for helping me catch up on some founder history ... I still have many pieces to put together, but the commentary here at AoS is helpful (really, not being sarcastic)


In general ... MAGA needs to put American civics back in the classroom, so many changes to get back to "original intent" of Liberty and Sovereign rights.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2020 12:51 PM (Cus5s)

432 Notsothoreau-

Thanks for your reply. I was wondering about you.

I hope things get smoother for you.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 12:53 PM (arJlL)

433 depending on what happens vis a vis - 600+ years ago vs today.


The Plague Year was 1665. (Defoe wrote about it around 1722.
Pepys kept a diary as it was actually going on.)That was about 350 years ago.
600 years ago was 1420. King Henry V was making speeches.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 12:18 PM (8IOEj)



You are correct in each particular, sir or madame.

In my defense, my ignorance is a vast and eclectic thing of enormous breadth and depth,

encompassing not only simple mathematics but history as well.

And since I read him in high school, how could I forget Samuel Pepys!

He was the fellow who invented those delightful marshmallow chicks which we eat on Easter morn!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 01:03 PM (9wmyx)

434 All Hail Eris: Do comics count?

No. Only text, no illustrations, in ink on paper, is a book. No 'graphic novels,' no 'mixed media,' no 'coffee table art books.' And certainly nothing 'online,' or 'digital.' Must be able to hold a literal, physical bookmark.

Anything else is a 'book.' And this isn't the 'Book' Thread.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Invulnerable, a tall tale
at February 23, 2020 01:08 PM (Isn+8)

435 I own both "The Prince" and "The Art of War." Never have read them in their entirety. Keep skipping to my favorite sections.

I'd love to have bookshelf nooks, but I am no craftsman. Don't even know what I would want to show.

My Who Dis guess is Orson Welles.

Now to read the comments and see whether I am correct.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 23, 2020 01:42 PM (u/nim)

436 Speaking of Charlies Lindbergh, I see HBO is doing a mini-series of the Phillip Roth novel "The Plot Against America". An alternate history where Lindbergh becomes President instead of FDR.

Because Orange Man Bad.

The original was written to explore the sad lot of American Jewry under George Dubya Bush, well noted isolationist who herded the whole of Brooklyn into camps in Kentucky. Those were sad days.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 23, 2020 01:43 PM (ykYG2)

437 The 14 Deceptions:

01. pretend to be incompetent
02. disguise when troops are about to be deployed
03. when near, appear far
04. when far, appear near
05. offer the enemy what it wants
06. create disorder and strike
07. when the enemy is prepared for attack, prepare to defend
08. avoid engaging an enemy that is stronger than you
09. enrage the enemy into making mistakes
10. feign inactivity to put the enemy off guard
11. when the enemy is at full strength, tire them out
12. where there is unity, sow discord
13. attack where the enemy is unprepared
14. appear where and when unexpected
--------

Nearing the end of 'The Street Without Joy', I am quite certain that the Viet Minh, and later the NVA and Viet Cong were well-read so far as 'The Art of War' is concerned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 01:49 PM (xSo9G)

438 Here's comments I would have left if I'd been here on time for the first 200:

_____

Please email me the plot for this 'obvious sequel.'
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


Chuckled
_____

Gaucho Marx!
Posted by: Muldoon


Yea, verily did I LOL.
_____

Bernie's wife outfrumps any of the old Soviet first ladies.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Heh. Adding 'outfrumps' to my spellchecker and lexicon.
_____

Who cares what potus reads?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


A question deserving of an excellent answer, especially here in the book thread. I'm sure someone else has already or will provide said answer so I don't have to.
_____

I read "The Vanishing Hitchhiker," the first of Jan Harold Brunvald's books on urban legends. It's from 1981, but it's still pretty fascinating. For a while, the Kindle edition was $2, dunno if it still is.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Back in (omg) '75, I wrote a (rather tedious?) ballad about the vanishing hitchhiker after reading an article about it.
mindfulwebworks.com/best-of-spirits/the-mysterious-stranger
Don't think I ever recorded it. Small mercy.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Invulnerable, a tall tale
at February 23, 2020 01:51 PM (Isn+8)

439 Nearing the end of 'The Street Without Joy', I am quite certain that the Viet Minh, and later the NVA and Viet Cong were well-read so far as 'The Art of War' is concerned.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Read Hell in a very Small Place the siege of Dien Bien Phu

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 01:56 PM (arJlL)

440 And since I read him in high school, how could I forget Samuel Pepys!
--------

A wealth of good quotes to had, one of my favorites:

"I went out to Charing Cross to see Major General Harrison hanged, drawn, and quartered; which was done there, he looking as cheerful as any man could in that condition."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2020 02:07 PM (CDGwz)

441 @68 --

Favorite book on music/musicians?

"My Favorite Intermissions" by Victor Borge. Each chapter is about a noted opera figure, with side-splitting footnotes.

Example: Text states that [Name] was being criticized for writing an extremely long opera, so he cut it in half.

Footnote: "Now he had two operas nobody wanted to produce."

My gawd, the things those guys got up to -- Hollywood had nothing on them!

I lent my copy to a family friend, so I'll probably never see it again. Oh, well. I have lots of other books to read.

I doubt that anybody will read this comment, but I've done my part. Wish the thread didn't open when it's time for church.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 23, 2020 02:55 PM (u/nim)

442 I'm back!


What say you? How much not for kiddies--is 11 too young? For, say, a certain granddaughter who is turning 11 today, but likes spooky things and whose favorite movie is "It?"
Posted by: Dumb, but hot at February 23, 2020 09:50 AM (OX9vb)


Oh my, I don't know! There's no cussing -- the rules of Fairyland make it impossible for Gertie to swear, but there's a heck of a lot of "Fluff you!"'s and explosions and candy-colored disemboweling. I would have loved it, but then I was a horrible child.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 23, 2020 03:11 PM (Dc2NZ)

443 Earlier in the thread there was some discussion of Machiavelli's "The Prince". I have read that and I feel moved to cite my favorite piece of the advice Machiavelli offers to a would be tyrant who wants to have a long reign: If it is necessary kill your enemies but do not confiscate their estates. Because men will much sooner forgive the loss of a father than they will the loss of an inheritance. A sublime bit of cynicism and, of course, quite true.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at February 23, 2020 04:41 PM (9AOND)

444 Well, this is weird. I posted something this morning before church, but it seems to have disappeared. I'll try to reconstruct what I said:

Here are a few books I have enjoyed recently:

The Lost Husband by Katherine Center--a book about a widow and her two children who to go to live with her Aunt who owns a goat farm. It's about adjusting to new circumstances and forming a community. Some humor ensues when one of the farm hands teaches the children how to stand up to bullies. Overall, a heartwarming and touching story.

The Silent Patient--about a woman who is accused of murdering her husband. She has fallen silent and mostly expressionless since the event. She is declared insane and becomes a ward of a mental institution. The therapists at the institution try to get her to talk again. There are some twists in the story. Overall, it held my interest, was pretty good, especially for a debut novel, and it was a fast read.

I've also started reading the Callahan Garrity mystery series by Mary Kay Andrews (first published under a pseudonym). Callahan is a former Atlanta police officer who now runs a home cleaning business. She is a PI on the side and keeps finding herself in the midst of murder investigations. Full of dry humor and snarkiness. So far, I have read the first three in the series.

Hope you all are doing well.

Posted by: Violet at February 23, 2020 06:02 PM (9ppMC)

445 This is way late, but I have to respond:

Trump's book list doesn't interest or impress me. I love the man, but whoops, there it is. Where are the classics of world literature? Where are Burke Adam Smith?

Posted by: mnw at February 23, 2020 09:38 AM (Cssks)


It wasn't intended to impress. It is just a means to understand how he thinks. You can learn a lot about a man from the books he reads and likes. You'd think that the MSM, specifically those super-smaht reporters on the White House beat, would pay more attention to things like this.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 06:12 PM (nJBeS)

446 Hope you all are doing well.
Posted by: Violet at February 23, 2020 06:02 PM (9ppMC)


Hi Violet. It's always good to read one of your comments. Don't know why your earlier comment disappeared, which is why it is always good to keep a backup copy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 23, 2020 06:15 PM (nJBeS)

447 Thanks, OM. I'll live and learn! Thanks for the book thread.

Posted by: Violet at February 23, 2020 06:35 PM (9ppMC)

EMT 2/23/20

Well that party went far better than I could ever have imagined.

There really wasn't much blubbering at all, and once that passed, all those kindergartners were polite enough to pretend I never shed a tear.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good Morning Morons today is Saturday, February 22, 2020. On this date in 1455 the Gutenberg Bible was the first Western book printed with movable type. 49 copies of this book have survived to this day.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

3 Right on time.

Posted by: Nazdar at February 23, 2020 06:01 AM (JVDFb)

4 Commie Sanders wins NV caucuse. Biteme comes in second. SC is up next Saturday.


https://tinyurl.com/t8hknve

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

5 Shift for Brains has a new Republican opponent in CA. He is running ads thanking him for getting Trump reelected.


https://tinyurl.com/uc3yw5r

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (arJlL)

7 The Russians are helping commie Bernie. Where's the outrage from the MFM and the House?


https://tinyurl.com/uyh8ouw

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

8 Biteme caught in another outrageous lie.


https://tinyurl.com/ra9p8he

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

9 So a successful party means another one someday, right?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (ZCEU2)

10 My wire transfer came in...Go Bloomberg!

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (yhf6w)

11 Justice Uglymayor has the sads because the liberals no longer have complete control of the court. She should resign. She says her opponents are biased. Yes, they are biased in favor of the law and not liberal politics like you, you fat scrunt.


https://tinyurl.com/tdwhml8

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

12 Glad to hear everything went well, Krak.

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (arJlL)

13 And the LA Times has the sads because the 9th circuit is no longer a bastion of far left rulings. Gee, things sure are different with Trump in office. Even RR was not able to change so much shit so quick.


https://tinyurl.com/wr42kur

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 MSDNC is no longer even making a pretense a being a real News Organization.



https://tinyurl.com/sefmkfs

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

15 Glad to hear the party went well!

Mornin', all

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (Z/jzm)

16 Deep State bureaucrats allowed 14 Chinese-Americans who tested positive with the coronavirus to return to the US after Trump had been informed they would remain quarantined in Japan. Trump is mad. I say some heads should roll but these people appear to be unfireable.


https://tinyurl.com/ur5glqh

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

17 Clint Eastwood is getting senile in his old age. He is supporting Bloomingidiot for 2020.


https://tinyurl.com/qkpbc79

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

18 Comie Bernie wants more open bowls of sugar for illegal migrant cockroaches.


https://tinyurl.com/un3norc

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

19 RAMIREZ


https://tinyurl.com/twenp6d


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

20 'Morning, all.

Posted by: Shoeless Guy at February 23, 2020 06:09 AM (p+/iO)

21 The conservative case for 90% tax rates...

Bernie 20/20.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 23, 2020 06:10 AM (yhf6w)

22 Boker tov horde, and thanks for VNN.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2020 06:10 AM (EZebt)

23 Dispatch the state dept deep state employees to hmm let's see, I know China. Transfer them. They will fire themselves.

Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 06:10 AM (WX+x0)

24
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2020 06:13 AM (/aKd3)

25 28.2F here and still dropping.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:13 AM (mpXpK)

26 16 Deep State bureaucrats allowed 14 Chinese-Americans who tested positive with the coronavirus to return to the US after Trump had been informed they would remain quarantined in Japan. Trump is mad. I say some heads should roll but these people appear to be unfireable.


https://tinyurl.com/ur5glqh
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

Perhaps they could be transferred to a new consulate in Wuhan, China immediately.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 23, 2020 06:15 AM (Wm5SB)

27 That's colder than here, Vic! 33 and going to hit close to 50 with SUNSHINE

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:16 AM (Z/jzm)

28 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 06:16 AM (cknjq)

29 Posted by: roscoe at February 23, 2020 06:10 AM (WX+x0)

You are quicker on the draw this AM.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 23, 2020 06:17 AM (Wm5SB)

30 Good morning.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2020 06:17 AM (gAXBD)

31 Whst American needs now is proven political experience, not a flash in the pan commie.

Come to me, America. I forgive you your deplorableness. Come suckle at Mama's teat.

I am...inevitable.

*maniacal cacklesharting*

Posted by: HRC at February 23, 2020 06:20 AM (ldmQR)

32 Dems continue to look for the cleanest dirty shirt in the pile. SC next.

Posted by: Guam tipper at February 23, 2020 06:20 AM (FsgBK)

33 27
That's colder than here, Vic! 33 and going to hit close to 50 with SUNSHINE

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:16 AM (Z/jzm)


What State?

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:22 AM (mpXpK)

34 >>What State?
Posted by: Vic

Wisconsin. (Southeastern)

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:23 AM (Z/jzm)

35 32
Dems continue to look for the cleanest dirty shirt in the pile. SC next.

Posted by: Guam tipper at February 23, 2020 06:20 AM (FsgBK)

Next Saturday but it really doesn't matter. The convention will nominate who the DNC wants and it will not be Commie Bernie.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

36 34
>>What State?

Posted by: Vic



Wisconsin. (Southeastern)

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:23 AM (Z/jzm)

Wow, that is normally a much colder State.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:25 AM (mpXpK)

37 Wisconsin. (Southeastern)
Posted by: My life is insanity

Yeah, boy. 55 for a high in No Ill. I got a flank steak marinating for the grill.

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:25 AM (vd8XM)

38 Of course the forecast shows a low of 2° by Friday. Mother Nature likes to tease.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:25 AM (Z/jzm)

39 Yeah Vic, we are gonna hit hi 40s in Michigan. Humid in the summer, cold in winter in SC.

Posted by: clutch at February 23, 2020 06:26 AM (9UmRs)

40 Hey Bruce, sounds good! What time?

Vic, it's been a pretty benign winter in this corner of the state

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:27 AM (Z/jzm)

41 Morons I finally was able to get some Baking Powder and try that trick some of the Morons talked about with eggs this morning. I couldn't tell any difference. I made scrambled eggs this time. After I make a trip to the store I'll try it on an omelet.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:27 AM (mpXpK)

42 Highs in 50s through Wednesday here in the mid Atlantic

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:28 AM (ZCEU2)

43 11 Justice Uglymayor has the sads because the liberals no longer have complete control of the court. She should resign. She says her opponents are biased. Yes, they are biased in favor of the law and not liberal politics like you, you fat scrunt.


https://tinyurl.com/tdwhml8
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

no green cards for those that sup oft the people nipple. YEAH!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 06:29 AM (JFO2v)

44 40
Vic, it's been a pretty benign winter in this corner of the state

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:27 AM (Z/jzm)

It was running warmer than normal up until the last two weeks. Two weeks ago we were having highs in the high 70s.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

45 Hey Bruce, sounds good! What time?


About 11:30.

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:31 AM (vd8XM)

46 16 Deep State bureaucrats allowed 14 Chinese-Americans who tested positive with the coronavirus to return to the US after Trump had been informed they would remain quarantined in Japan. Trump is mad. I say some heads should roll but these people appear to be unfireable.


https://tinyurl.com/ur5glqh
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

Progressivism 101: Importing death and disease make the world a better place.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 06:32 AM (JFO2v)

47 8 Biteme caught in another outrageous lie.

https://tinyurl.com/ra9p8he
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

article titled "Biden: My Son Was The Attorney General Of The United States (No, He Wasn't)"

But he (Beau Biden) WAS Attorney General of Delaware. So Joe Biden will skate on this.

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 06:32 AM (UZ8BZ)

48 You do know I was arrested while marching beside Dr. King in Columbia S.C. in 67'? It was a month after I was arrested in 72' after freeing Mandela from prison in South Africa. I once owned a bar-b-que rib stand in Charleston beside the old slave auction after releasing all the slaves...I just love South Dakota!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2020 06:33 AM (yhf6w)

49 68 and sun here

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 06:33 AM (JFO2v)

50 Yeah the baking powder works best if your egg is close to room temperature.

Posted by: clutch at February 23, 2020 06:34 AM (9UmRs)

51 >>. Two weeks ago we were having highs in the high 70s.
Posted by: Vic

Nice.

I'm sure we will get more cold and snow, usually do, and March can be ugly here, but April is just around the corner.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:34 AM (Z/jzm)

52 What is funny is my next door neighbor's Bradford Pear tree is in full bloom right now. It thinks it's Spring. My Bradford Pear hasn't even started to bud yet. But my Camellia bush is in full bloom.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

53 >>About 11:30.
Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:31 AM (vd8XM)

Well, darn! Still on mom duty then.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:37 AM (Z/jzm)

54 18 Comie Bernie wants more open bowls of sugar for illegal migrant cockroaches.


https://tinyurl.com/un3norc
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

Man that crowd loves the illegals.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 06:37 AM (JFO2v)

55 Well, darn! Still on mom duty then.
Posted by: My life is insanity

Usually we have leftovers. I can save some.

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:39 AM (vd8XM)

56 54 Man that crowd loves the illegals.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 06:37 AM (JFO2v)

Because they thing they will get citizenship instantly if given amnesty. And then they will vote Democrat forever.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:40 AM (mpXpK)

57 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 06:40 AM (tT0V4)

58 43 11 Justice Uglymayor has the sads because the liberals no longer have complete control of the court. She should resign. She says her opponents are biased. Yes, they are biased in favor of the law and not liberal politics like you, you fat scrunt.


https://tinyurl.com/tdwhml8
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

no green cards for those that sup oft the people nipple. YEAH!
__________________

Yes, it's a common-sense rule, which is probably why Sotomayor doesn't like it.

It's not about "punishing immigrants" so much as it is about "protecting taxpayers" which is what the public charge law was supposed to do in the first place.

But like most lefties, Sotomayor sees the U.S. as a giant ATM, and believes that all the world's poor have some natural right to come here and live off the backs of U.S. taxpayers. And if we object to that, then of course we're raaaaaaacists.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 06:40 AM (k4dH2)

59 After all, Workers of the world unite

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 06:41 AM (ZCEU2)

60 So I got the truck aligned yesterday and when I picked it up they indicated that the right rear radius arm was seized and couldn't be adjusted, so there's another $200.

Worse yet it appears that the brand new engine I paid $50k to put in has lost oil pressure. Today I go get a pressure gauge to confirm. Haven't been able to sleep all night I'm so worried about it.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 06:41 AM (9V81o)

61

Mornin', mornin' folks.
Managed to finish up new, rear rotors, calipers and pads on the Toy yesterday.

My old body is sore.
Took way too long. Not set up here for that kind of work. As in doing it on a dirt/gravel driveway. Trying to bleed brakes by yourself equals no fun, too.

Got no laundry done or cooking either.

Ah well, at least I've got good brakes now. Should last long enough to put me in the ground except replacing pads now and again,,, well, maybe on the again part.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:42 AM (E5DvK)

62 Sweet!

I need to get the grill out at home. Craving some grilled chicken.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:42 AM (Z/jzm)

63 Biden reminds me of the 60th reunion guy from the ONT joke.

Posted by: Guam tipper at February 23, 2020 06:43 AM (FsgBK)

64 Anyone see a comparison of the dim caucus turn out numbers, pubs?

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 06:43 AM (6ofVG)

65 58 But like most lefties, Sotomayor sees the U.S. as a
giant ATM, and believes that all the world's poor have some natural
right to come here and live off the backs of U.S. taxpayers. And if we
object to that, then of course we're raaaaaaacists.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 06:40 AM (k4dH2)

Lefties are like children. They think money grows on trees so all you have to do is pick a few money leaves and you're set.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:44 AM (mpXpK)

66 So now that Chris Mathews is on record saying that four more years of Trump would be better than Breadline Bernie winning....


Where do we do from there?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 06:44 AM (tT0V4)

67 Worse yet it appears that the brand new engine I paid $50k to put in has lost oil pressure.

A new engine for 50K?

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:45 AM (vd8XM)

68

50k engine?

Geez, you driving a Lambur, um, a Lamber, um, a Porshe or sumthin'?

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:46 AM (E5DvK)

69 Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 06:41 AM (9V81o)

Do you mean $5k for the engine? What kind of truck? Should be a warranty on the engine.

Posted by: clutch at February 23, 2020 06:46 AM (9UmRs)

70 I need to get the grill out at home. Craving some grilled chicken.
Posted by: My life is insanity

I started off easy last weekend with bratwurst. It was a little cooler out, and you don't have to babysit brats

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:47 AM (vd8XM)

71 But like most lefties, Sotomayor sees the U.S. as a giant ATM, and believes that all the world's poor have some natural right to come here and live off the backs of U.S. taxpayers. And if we object to that, then of course we're raaaaaaacists.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

The Dims go all in on immigration, DJT changes the rules and only those that are proven hard workers with money to invest can get in, I laugh all morning.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 06:48 AM (6ofVG)

72 67
Worse yet it appears that the brand new engine I paid $50k to put in has lost oil pressure.



A new engine for 50K?



Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:45 AM (vd8XM)

Yeah, I though that was a typo. You can get a Ford 302 short block for about $2,000.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:48 AM (mpXpK)

73 " and you don't have to babysit brats"

Just send them to their rooms?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 06:48 AM (tT0V4)

74 A new engine for 50K?
Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:45 AM (vd8XM)
Engine was $10k. Putting it in was another $20k. Upgraded internals and turbo and CTIS leak resolution made up the balance.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 06:48 AM (9V81o)

75 Is that truck a Freightliner?

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 06:49 AM (6ofVG)

76 I hate thinking about having to get a new vehicle. Car has 250K miles, hoping to get it to 300K. Truck has 140K. Choices of new are out of my budget range.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:49 AM (Z/jzm)

77 Haven't seen Notsothorough lately.

Hope all is well in her world......

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 06:50 AM (arJlL)

78 Do you mean $5k for the engine? What kind of truck? Should be a warranty on the engine.
Posted by: clutch at February 23, 2020 06:46 AM (9UmRs)

Hummer H1. It's a P400 I put in. Evolution of the venerable 6.5 that was in it originally (that blew up)

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 06:51 AM (9V81o)

79 >>" and you don't have to babysit brats"

Just send them to their rooms?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

LOL

We do brats occasionally inside in the winter, first par boil in beer then pan fry. Not quite the same as grilling but close

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 06:52 AM (Z/jzm)

80 Geez, you driving a Lambur, um, a Lamber, um, a Porshe or sumthin'?
Posted by: teej

HA!

Reminds me of a Foster Brooks routine

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:53 AM (vd8XM)

81 Mornin' y'all

Posted by: Big V at February 23, 2020 06:53 AM (XEC2p)

82 As I posted last night, Maryland, in an effort to fund the latest education boondoggle is now proposing collecting sales tax on services, as well as traditional goods.

And this will include funerals.


So the State that taxed the rain, now wants to tax death as well.

Death and taxes folks......
Death, and the taxes on it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 06:54 AM (tT0V4)

83 Krakatoa, so glad you maintained your facade of parental infallibility! It is a short lived thing!

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at February 23, 2020 06:55 AM (PHxng)

84 82
As I posted last night, Maryland, in an effort to fund the latest
education boondoggle is now proposing collecting sales tax on services,
as well as traditional goods.



And this will include funerals.





So the State that taxed the rain, now wants to tax death as well.



Death and taxes folks......

Death, and the taxes on it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 06:54 AM (tT0V4)

Think of what sales tax on a $300,000 house or a $40,000 car would be.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:56 AM (mpXpK)

85

Mornin', Mlii.

That's why I'm hoping the '03' Explorer and '04' Solera put me in the ground with just some minor to semi major work.
And I forgot to add in previous that wrenching isn't exactly in my wheelhouse.
Solera needs plugs which also means replacing some stuff on the backside while in there and a new timing belt.
Can't do that myself but hopefully that gets me another 180k miles or so.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 06:56 AM (E5DvK)

86 They charge a sales tax on nearly every thing here but it is capped at $600 for now. The politicians have been trying to eliminate that $600 cap for a long time.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

87 @69

If it's an engine for a semi it could cost that much to buy and install.

Overhauls could go from 5-40k.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 23, 2020 06:57 AM (NdsWb)

88 As I posted last night, Maryland, in an effort to fund the latest education boondoggle is now proposing collecting sales tax on services, as well as traditional goods.

And this will include funerals.

So the State that taxed the rain, now wants to tax death as well.

Death and taxes folks......
Death, and the taxes on it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Illinois has started to tax you trade in when you buy a new car. Your old car that you already paid a tax on when you bought it. Paid taxes on it to be able to drive it. So now you will pay a tax on it to trade it in.

Another "Billionaire only" tax from our fine governor Jabba the Hutt

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 06:58 AM (vd8XM)

89 "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."

Posted by: m at February 23, 2020 07:00 AM (UZ8BZ)

90

Heh, Foster Brooks.
Bet he and Dean Martin, doing a both "being drunk" routine together would be a laugh riot.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:00 AM (E5DvK)

91 "Think of what sales tax on a $300,000 house or a $40,000 car would be."

Vic


We already pay that.

What the smarmy cork soakers came up with was to propose lowering the rate from six, to five percent.

BUT..... then making almost everything which is service based into the 'taxable' column.

So they actually that with no alteration to resident population, spending habits, or annual income levelanticipate increasing the annual State sales tax revenue annually by 53%.


BUT.......it's not a tax increase,
Because they lowered the rate.

It really is Soviet math.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:01 AM (tT0V4)

92 66 So now that Chris Mathews is on record saying that four more years of Trump would be better than Breadline Bernie winning....


Where do we do from there?
_____________

How sad is it that in a country of over 300 million people, a lazy-ass commie-wannabe, with zero real accomplishments, is the best the Dims can offer?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:03 AM (k4dH2)

93 Hey, teej!

You are fortunate to have the skills to do the stuff yourself. I can change a tire and i do know how to change the oil, and in theory understand how to do brakes, and other stuff, just don't have the physical ability.

Sigh, dad always said to marry someone who knows how to do stuff. when i was younger and2 dumber i didnt think that was so important! Ha!

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 07:04 AM (Z/jzm)

94 Morons I finally was able to get some Baking Powder and try that trick some of the Morons talked about with eggs this morning. I couldn't tell any difference. I made scrambled eggs this time. After I make a trip to the store I'll try it on an omelet.
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 06:27 AM (mpXpK)
~~~~~

The baking powder tends to clump, so you really have to whisk it into the eggs very well. Try that next time and I think you'll see the difference.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2020 07:04 AM (sGotD)

95 *So they actually anticipate that with no alteration to resident population, spending habits, or annual income level, this will increase the annual State sales tax revenue stream annually by 53%.*



Sheesh...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:05 AM (tT0V4)

96 " a lazy-ass commie-wannabe, with zero real accomplishments, is the best the Dims can offer?"

So now we're back to discussing Obama?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:06 AM (tT0V4)

97

If Bernie Sanders wins, and it's possible, it would mean the Democrats did well in the Congressional races, too, giving them big majorities in Congress.

But that would mean a big Red Wave in 2022, putting the Cucks back in power of Congress and doing very little to stop Bernie's agenda.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 07:07 AM (n/O3c)

98 #HaneyDidn'tKillHimself

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:07 AM (ZCEU2)

99 Thanks, Vic.
Just saw one of the copies of the Gutenberg Bible a couple weeks ago.
It was under glass and in German, but we could tell it was opened to the first page of John's gospel.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/dnc/bureaucracy at February 23, 2020 07:07 AM (x6XkS)

100 Bruce, does the city sticker (tax) still apply there? Lived in Elgin in the 80s. I remember having to buy a city sticker also

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 07:08 AM (Z/jzm)

101

Well, I can just handle the periphery stuff, Mlii.
Digging into the motor, especially on a front wheel drive with plugs in the back you can't get to without removing a bunch of stuff, replacing some of it as long as you're in there would use up a weeks vacation. Require nice weather and lots of utube vids.

Nice weather is meant for outdoor gigs and fishing.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:10 AM (E5DvK)

102 >>Nice weather is meant for outdoor gigs and fishing.
Posted by: teej

Priorities!

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 07:11 AM (Z/jzm)

103 So the media still shows no interest in a member of Congress credibly being accused of immigration fraud?

Mrs VIA were just yesterday having a conversation concerning the meaning of 'Intellectually Incurious"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:12 AM (tT0V4)

104 #HaneyDidn'tKillHimself

Arnold the pig did it !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 07:13 AM (arJlL)

105 An inframe engine overhaul for a class 8 truck averages between 30K to 40K.

Defenestratus, hopefully it will be just the pressure gauge that failed, not the oil pump.

Posted by: Grog at February 23, 2020 07:13 AM (weXmt)

106 Better get moving on those banana muffins i wanted to make this morning. I think i've timed it so they will be done when mom wakes up.

See ya later

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 23, 2020 07:14 AM (Z/jzm)

107 I just checked on that $600 max sales tax. The law changed in 2017. It is now $300 may but it applies to more items that sales tax did not used to apply to. Also I found that the maximum allowable conbined State and local sales tax is supposed to be 9%. In my local city the sales tax is 10.5% but I am sure they have some legal trick that allows them to do that. The problems is that our local Walmart is inside the city limits. All the car lots except a few used car lots are inside the city limits too.

I am lucky I haven't bought a house or new car in decades.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 07:14 AM (mpXpK)

108 Those NV caucus results remind me of how Hitler got elected. Low voter turnout.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 07:16 AM (2BZBZ)

109 Bruce, does the city sticker (tax) still apply there? Lived in Elgin in the 80s. I remember having to buy a city sticker also
Posted by: My life is insanity

Our village stopped it about 2 years ago. Then a year ago they decided to reinstate it. Why?
Because it will help the local police be able to identify the cars better.

I guess have plates on the car and a computer in their car just wasn't enough
I have no idea how the 3 digits on my sticker are going to help identify anything, because I'd be willing to bet, that is not part of the "system" the car computer has

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 07:16 AM (vd8XM)

110 Better get moving on those banana muffins i wanted to make this morning. I think i've timed it so they will be done when mom wakes up.

See ya later

Posted by: My life is insanity


Have a great one, MLii !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 07:16 AM (arJlL)

111 Working on a Dutch baby, wanted extra for a easy breakfast tomorrow but it was asmall apple and didn't make enough batter to fill the iron pan.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:17 AM (ZCEU2)

112 98 #HaneyDidn'tKillHimself
______________

Yeah, nothing at all suspicious about that death, right? He was talking to DHS about going back to work there, and he was getting married in a few months. So obviously he had nothing to look forward to in his life. Why not just drive out to the middle of nowhere and shoot himself in the head? Makes perfect sense! And it's surely just a happy coincidence that he was a major critic of the Obama administration's practice of erasing islamic terrorists' records so that they could obtain all sorts of nice U.S. government jobs and benefits, not to mention access to classified information.

Yeah, nothing suspicious here at all. Just move along, folks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:17 AM (k4dH2)

113 Maybe even your densest liberal acquaintances will grasp this. Maybe.

https://ibb.co/0cF6QYj

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at February 23, 2020 07:18 AM (ldmQR)

114
Mornin y'all, thanks for the links, vic!

Posted by: Gooshy, listening carefully to Zathrus at February 23, 2020 07:19 AM (A668L)

115 "Maybe even your densest liberal acquaintances will grasp this. Maybe.

https://ibb.co/0cF6QYj"


I don't get it.

Posted by: Tide-pod Timmy at February 23, 2020 07:19 AM (tT0V4)

116 looks like about 53k showed up for Nev vs 84k in 2016.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:20 AM (JFO2v)

117 113 I doubt it, said yesterday I suspect if its Comrade Bernie or President Trump my older relatives will pull the Communist lever.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:21 AM (ZCEU2)

118 Sanders got 47 percent of the vote?? Biden came in a distant second. Bloomberg got ZERO. What a clown show.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2020 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

119 118 Sanders got 47 percent of the vote?? Biden came in a distant second. Bloomberg got ZERO. What a clown show.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2020 07:22 AM (lwiT4)

Bloomie was not on ballot

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:22 AM (JFO2v)

120 It's always a good sign when you're on the phone with your Insurance people, and you wander off topic to discuss things like Federal offering new shorty shotgun shells, similar to the Aguila Mini shells.

And Boomers vs Tidepods.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:22 AM (tT0V4)

121 Bloomie was not on ballot

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:22 AM (JFO2v)



Well that would make sense then. Yang got two votes.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2020 07:24 AM (lwiT4)

122 At most Bloomie is hoping for a brokered convention if he really even wants the job at all.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:24 AM (ZCEU2)

123

Always nice seeing your nic, Mlii.
Try to get a bit of relaxing in today.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:24 AM (E5DvK)

124 " looks like about 53k showed up for Nev vs 84k in 2016."

Does that include early voting, which I believe this was the first year for it?



(How does one do 'Early Caucus, anyhow?)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:24 AM (tT0V4)

125 Defenestratus, hopefully it will be just the pressure gauge that failed, not the oil pump.
Posted by: Grog at February 23, 2020 07:13 AM (weXmt)

Yeah I pay what is referred to as the "Hummer Tax" on everything. The engines are rare - GEP (the manufacturer) is no longer making them and isn't promising to ever make them again. I got one of 5 left in the country that are unspoken for. I had to ship the truck off, halfway across the country to get the work done by a place I trusted. Now this. It's just been a non-stop financial nightmare with this thing and I'm at the end of my rope.

What was my dream truck has turned into a nightmare. If the new engine is toast them I'm just going to sell it back to the place that did the swap - pay it off, and wash my hands of the whole thing.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 07:24 AM (9V81o)

126 Read one article the voting isn't a easy count and its probably made that way, Bernie was well ahead, but it gave Crazy Uncle Joe a boost in the way the totals are figured.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:26 AM (ZCEU2)

127 oh and yeah, I'm hoping its the oil pressure sending unit. Its $40. However to get to it I have to rip out the interior of the truck and remove the "doghouse" since the engine is mounted inside the cabin area basically.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 07:26 AM (9V81o)

128

Mornin' grammie!
Spring (training) has sprung!!

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:28 AM (E5DvK)

129 Maybe instead of throwing millions at NeverTrump Republicans, I should throw millions at NeverSanders Democrats...

Posted by: Pierre Omidyar at February 23, 2020 07:28 AM (NVYyb)

130 So the media still shows no interest in a member of Congress credibly being accused of immigration fraud?


They were just barely interested for a day about a loon trying to kill a bunch of Republicans on a baseball field.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 07:28 AM (oVJmc)

131 And good morning all

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 07:29 AM (NVYyb)

132 Def - What a over engineered mess

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:29 AM (ZCEU2)

133 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:29 AM (u82oZ)

134 Mornin' grammie!

Spring (training) has sprung!!

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:28 AM (E5DvK)



Good morning teej! Sprung indeed!

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2020 07:29 AM (lwiT4)

135 G'morning, Salty

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:30 AM (tT0V4)

136 looks like about 53k showed up for Nev vs 84k in 2016.


Prob not surprising in an incumbent election.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 07:30 AM (oVJmc)

137 118 Sanders got 47 percent of the vote?? Biden came in a distant second. Bloomberg got ZERO. What a clown show.
____________

And Lieawatha came in 4th. Still thinks it's funny that the fake Indian can't even beat a shrimpy, Howdy-Doody-looking, pouf-y mayor of a dysfunctional mid-west town best known for its violence. Hell, in NV she couldn't even beat a senile old neck-sniffing coot like Joe Biden.

As Trump would say: Sad!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:30 AM (k4dH2)

138 I just cannot vote for Bernie in the SC primary. If he wins, I will be forever guilty. Slo Joe is looking better and better.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 07:31 AM (2BZBZ)

139 Hey Americans

Your commie politicians fucked you in the ass!

Most American travelers will need to apply for a new ID because two thirds of 276 million state driver's licenses do not comply with a security law, sparking fears that the measure could drastically dent tourism.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:31 AM (JFO2v)

140 If I'm not mistaken Bernie Sanders would be the first Socialist major party candidate?

What are the odds that if he secures the nomination all of the anti-Sanders stuff stops cold and entire party unites behind him?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:32 AM (H8QX8)

141 " If he wins, I will be forever guilty"

Maybe your guilt could be soothed by your increased chocolate rations?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:32 AM (tT0V4)

142 Buttplug is coming up from the rear.

Posted by: JAS at February 23, 2020 07:32 AM (2BZBZ)

143 140

That's what I'm betting on happening. An accidental bathtub drowning or pillow mishap would be too obvious.

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at February 23, 2020 07:33 AM (ldmQR)

144 I just got up for a second cup of coffee and the dogs alertly watched every move I made, in case I slipped over and put my boots on. They are ready to ramble. Not until I eat breakfast you crazy animals!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 07:33 AM (NVYyb)

145 I want Crazy Uncle Joe to fail miserably and soon just to rub it in Shiffty's and Sloppy Choppers face.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:34 AM (ZCEU2)

146 If I'm not mistaken Bernie Sanders would be the first openly Socialist major party candidate?


* Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:34 AM (tT0V4)

147 James Carville says putin helped Bernie to help reelect PDT. WTF??

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:35 AM (JFO2v)

148 What are the odds that if he secures the nomination all of the anti-Sanders stuff stops cold and entire party unites behind him?
________________

The money guys in the Dim party must believe they can control him, otherwise they'd knock him out.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:35 AM (k4dH2)

149
New Roku channel for ya - Movieland TV.
Why?
Clint Eastwood: Where Eagles Dare, Kelly's Heroes, all three Sergio Leone films, Dirty Harry and Magnum Force.
also..
Blazing Saddles.
Mad Max 2 and 3
two Monty Pythons

at least a half dozen more I can't remember, and so far excellent, crisp releases.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Gooshy, listening carefully to Zathrus at February 23, 2020 07:35 AM (A668L)

150 "An accidental bathtub drowning or pillow mishap would be too obvious."

Suicide in Ft Marcy Park, the evening before Hillary announces?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:36 AM (tT0V4)

151

In the little apple one last time (for work) this year tomorrow night, NaCly.
Just in case.
Really want to try to wet a line at the outlet or little lake below the dam sometime this year too.

Posted by: teej at February 23, 2020 07:36 AM (E5DvK)

152 The popularity of Socialism -- a totally debunked governing ideology that has produced the worst living conditions on earth for its people -- can only be credited to the saturating MSM/pop cultural propaganda and overwhelming educational indoctrination over 75 years.

To have allowed this -- to have allowed this self-poisoning -- we may go down as stupidest civilization in history.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:37 AM (H8QX8)

153 Democrats like Hollywood have no new ideas, only remakes to go to.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:37 AM (ZCEU2)

154 >So the media still shows no interest in a member of Congress credibly being accused of immigration fraud?


she's black, female, muslim, and Democrat

that's four-ply fire-proof protection

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:38 AM (iTXRQ)

155 The dems dont care about congress members, they have Katie Hill out on a rehabilitation tour fer christs sake, probably send her back in 22

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 23, 2020 07:38 AM (MU2MU)

156 "To have allowed this -- to have allowed this self-poisoning -- we may go down as stupidest civilization in history.
"

A Republic

If you can keep it.
-Shit some dead white guy said.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:38 AM (tT0V4)

157 Lol - carville's claim. Remember he's a palace guard for the clintons. He's trying to keep russia, russia, russia going while he attacks both trump and Burnie with it. Nice try, skeletor!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 07:39 AM (q3gwH)

158 146 If I'm not mistaken Bernie Sanders would be the first openly Socialist major party candidate?


* Suggested edit
_________________

Yeah, Barky Obama was a member of a Socialist party when he lived in Chicago, but that got disappeared down the black hole along with a lot of the other inconvenient stuff from his mysterious and ill-documented past.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:39 AM (k4dH2)

159 https://i.postIMG.cc/QxG8PTMv/20200223-073856.jpg
I have a winner

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 07:40 AM (ZCEU2)

160 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:40 AM (u82oZ)

161 'Democratic Socialism' is like 'a little bit pregnant.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 07:40 AM (oVJmc)

162
Looks good, skip.

Posted by: Gooshy, listening carefully to Zathrus at February 23, 2020 07:42 AM (A668L)

163 Did AOC ever make that 'big announcement?'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 07:42 AM (oVJmc)

164 >"To have allowed this -- to have allowed this self-poisoning -- we may go down as stupidest civilization in history.
"

well, Normal America allowed itself to be bullied by Weird America, because Normal wanted Weird to think it was nice. Weird took advantage of this weakness, and now we have guys growing tits and using the ladies' bathroom, and commies running for President.

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:42 AM (iTXRQ)

165 Vic

Thank you for the links and history. Much appreciated.

What an impact the Gutenberg Bible made. It must have been treasured to have 49 copies survive the destruction of history to today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (u82oZ)

166 155 The dems dont care about congress members, they have Katie Hill out on a rehabilitation tour fer christs sake, probably send her back in 22
______________

She'll appear on The View to announce her candidacy: "My only mistake was that I was just too loving!"

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (k4dH2)

167 Maybe somebody with a WSJ subscription can read the entire thing.

Breadline Bernie's favorite Caribbean vacation spot sure has history.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113590852154334404

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (tT0V4)

168 It's hilarious to watch dems turn russia russia russia against themselves. Bad news for Carville & Clinton, no one, even on your side, believes it anymore. Means you spent 3 years flogging your log on that and you can't even use it as a campaign issue!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (q3gwH)

169 139
Hey Americans



Your commie politicians fucked you in the ass!



Most American travelers will need to apply for a new ID because two
thirds of 276 million state driver's licenses do not comply with a
security law, sparking fears that the measure could drastically dent
tourism.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2020 07:31 AM (JFO2v)

The problem is that it was implemented under Obama and the Deepstate bureaucrats under Obama wrote the implementing regulations. The record keeping requirements are just about impossible to meet and are very very expensive. So it would require a massive tax increase to implement. But the Democrats like that.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (mpXpK)

170 I have known that the media is all Democrats and working for the Dem party or should I say is the Dem party but I have finally hit the point where I just don't watch it anymore because it is all BS. I can't get OAN on Spectrum so the only place to get the news that drives me insane is online but even then I have to sift through it. Why is there no way to stop the Dem media? While everyone can just stop watching, they have proven they won't stop and idiots who do watch buy everything they are slinging. It's depressing.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 23, 2020 07:43 AM (KSBDE)

171 What was my dream truck has turned into a nightmare. If the new engine is toast them I'm just going to sell it back to the place that did the swap - pay it off, and wash my hands of the whole thing.
Posted by: Defenestratus

----

Well that sucks.

Have you considered a fire? I know a guy who knows a guy.

Morning all.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 07:44 AM (Y4EXg)

172 Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:42 AM (iTXRQ)

That's about the finest most succinct analysis I've come across.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:45 AM (H8QX8)

173 "Did AOC ever make that 'big announcement?'"

She taunted Happy Fun Ball.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:45 AM (tT0V4)

174 With all the talk of Russia, I bet China, much wealthier and more corrupt, is really the one to watch. Plenty of evidence some politicians advance policy that favors China. Not so much for Russia.

China is turning into a country with very evil leadership.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:45 AM (u82oZ)

175 always buy the thing that is easiest to fix or replace

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:45 AM (iTXRQ)

176 >That's about the finest most succinct analysis I've come across.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice


thank you

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:46 AM (iTXRQ)

177 Plenty of evidence some politicians advance policy that favors China.
_________________

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Mini Mike, bite-size billionaire at February 23, 2020 07:47 AM (k4dH2)

178

The strange story of the Hawker Hurricane stolen from Royal Air Force:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7WxIwgqJE

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 07:48 AM (n/O3c)

179
She taunted Happy Fun Ball.

Oh crap.

Posted by: Gooshy, listening carefully to Zathrus at February 23, 2020 07:48 AM (A668L)

180 164 DB- just DB

Well said.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:48 AM (u82oZ)

181 And BTW that law that was passed is another unfunded mandate from Washington. The individual States have to bear all the costs.

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2020 07:49 AM (mpXpK)

182 157 Lol - carville's claim. Remember he's a palace guard for the clintons. He's trying to keep russia, russia, russia going while he attacks both trump and Burnie with it. Nice try, skeletor!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 07:39 AM (q3gwH)


I have to grudgingly admire the "Russia is Interfering to Elect ______" disinformation campaigns. The claim can be neither proven nor disproven. And the main targets - dummies - will believe it, no matter what counter-evidence is presented.

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 07:49 AM (AMIL/)

183 China - The Home of Evil Leadership since 221 BC!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2020 07:49 AM (q3gwH)

184 thank you NaCly Dog

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (iTXRQ)

185 The Danes have been trying to correct Bernie's mischaracterization of Denmark for years and years. He did it again the other night, during the debate, when he described Denmark as "socialist". It's not. And Danish political leaders keep telling him so. What Sanders wants is soviet style socialism, which he has praised any number of times, but he can't say so out loud so he lies and cites non-existent Scandi socialism instead.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (NVYyb)

186 *looks at first 38 printed pages of novel*

I think it is time to start making these changes to the computer version, the notes and revisions almost obscure what is printed on the pages.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (I7upL)

187 "I have to grudgingly admire the "Russia is Interfering to Elect ______" disinformation campaigns. The claim can be neither proven nor disproven. And the main targets - dummies - will believe it, no matter what counter-evidence is presented."

Right up there with 'Created, or saved....."

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (tT0V4)

188 mornin yall. I saw Foster Brooks on a episode of Adam-12. He was a drunk driver that killed a pedestrian.

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (Tnijr)

189 okay I'm figna make a mess a biscuits and get the bacon going


have a wonderful morning all

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:50 AM (iTXRQ)

190 Morning all

So the Democratic Party is now officially the communist party

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 07:51 AM (85Gof)

191 Great finish to the Carolina-Toronto game last night. Both Carolina goalies got hurt so they had to use the emergency goalie who in this case turned out to be the 42 year old Zamboni driver for Toronto's minor league affiliate.

He gave up two on goals on the first 2 shots he faced and then shut Toronto down and got the win.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2020 07:52 AM (ZLI7S)

192 "So the Democratic Party is now officially the communist party"

Would be kinda hard to argue against that viewpoint.....yes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:52 AM (tT0V4)

193
So the Democratic Party is now officially the communist party



After they spent the last decades in fake outrage any time they were called socialists.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 07:52 AM (oVJmc)

194 Hey Doc....


Mrs VIA asked if you're gonna be at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:53 AM (tT0V4)

195 @167 VIA

This is the gruesome description O'Grady starts with. Her 2005 article then gets worse.


"On May 27, [1966,] 166 Cubans -- civilians and members of the
military -- were executed and submitted to medical procedures of blood
extraction of an average of seven pints per person. This blood is sold
to Communist Vietnam at a rate of $50 per pint with the dual purpose of
obtaining hard currency and contributing to the Vietcong Communist
aggression.
"A pint of blood is equivalent to half a
liter. Extracting this amount of blood from a person sentenced to death
produces cerebral anemia and a state of unconsciousness and paralysis.
Once the blood is extracted, the person is taken by two militiamen on a
stretcher to the location where the execution takes place."











-- InterAmerican Human Rights Commission, April 7, 1967

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 07:54 AM (NVYyb)

196 Mrs VIA asked if you're gonna be at the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:53 AM (tT0V4)

Well since I am now Active Duty my schedule is kinda turn on its head. Down in VA during the week and home on the weekends so probably not but we will see

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 07:55 AM (85Gof)

197 Morning peeps. About 30 days to retirement.

Regarding the "Real ID" B.S. - here in Kentucky the state government has been struggling with bad equipment, software, policies and procedures for almost 2 years. The documentation requirements originally set out were nearly impossible to meet if you needed the Real ID to travel by air. Even I would have struggled to find the 5 required documents. Your current drivers license wasn't one of them until the state realized that very few legit citizens could meet the requirements.

I believe this was be design.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2020 07:55 AM (3H9h1)

198 "This is the gruesome description O'Grady starts with. Her 2005 article then gets worse. "

Thanks.

Wasn't Castro an official F.O.B. (Friend of Bernie)?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:55 AM (tT0V4)

199 be = by

No coffee yet.....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2020 07:56 AM (3H9h1)

200 "so probably not but we will see"

Well, we shall hope.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:56 AM (tT0V4)

201 Joe had a good showing in Colorado. He's gonna be the candidate. Go Joe Go.

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 07:58 AM (Tnijr)

202 Bernie Sanders: Illegal Immigrants Are Entitled To The Same Government Benefits As Citizens

Winner of the Democratic caucus in Nevada

Oki doki

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 07:58 AM (85Gof)

203 The Trump campaign and/or RNC could produce some absolutely brutal ads about Sanders and Socialism/Communism. I wonder if they will.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:58 AM (H8QX8)

204 175 always buy the thing that is easiest to fix or replace
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 23, 2020 07:45 AM (iTXRQ)

The P400 shares all of its "components" with the 6.5 Optimizer that is still being made in mass quantities to supply the military.

The things that aren't being made anymore are the ceramic coated forged pistons, the web-reinforced bottom end, forged crank.. basically all of the components of the "block" that - if they were to go - the engine would as well.

So its not like the components are hard to come by to fix it. It's that the vehicle itself is unique. It's not complicated at all. It's very very simple - it has to be to be "grunt proof" but it was also designed to be maintained in a motor pool and not on a standard "civilian" maintenance cycle (3k,6k,12k, etc). The differences between the civvy and military versions are what is complicating matters as well. In a military HMMWV, removing the doghouse is two twists, 4 latches and the whole thing pops off and you can see the whole rear of the engine and bellhousing. On my truck, I have to take off the outer doghouse that has the glovebox, HVAC controls, stereo, window switches. Then I have to wade through the biggest mess of wires you've ever seen to get to the two twists and 4 latches. Then I have to remove the engine cover THROUGH that mess of tangled wire harnesses. It takes 2 hours by itself to just GET to that stuff. 30 seconds to swap out the switch.

I had the opportunity to convert it to a LMM duramax but I decided against it because I wanted a more reliable engine setup and I didn't want to have to re-engineer the entire driveline with upgraded shafts and gears to handle the dmax.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 23, 2020 07:58 AM (9V81o)

205 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 07:40 AM (u82oZ)


Comrade NaCLy, received nice package at dacha, labeling them as "books" was a master stroke, more to follow!
Pasib!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 07:58 AM (BiNEL)

206
The Winter Without Snow?

Well, almost. But we never got any really big storms, and doesn't look like we will.

I already miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 23, 2020 07:59 AM (n/O3c)

207 Conservatives voting for Bernie in an open primary to create mischief is sort of like playing Russian Roulette.

Odds are that you're gonna win.

But if you lose....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:59 AM (tT0V4)

208 My brother is a Bernie bro. Sickmaking.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:59 AM (H8QX8)

209 Trump should get some billboards that say "Mike Blomberg wears platform shoes."

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (Tnijr)

210 It just amazes me that the evidence of the entire 20th century notwithstanding, some Democrats are still voting for Breadline Bernie.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (NVYyb)

211 207 Conservatives voting for Bernie in an open primary
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 07:59 AM (tT0V4)

I couldn't possibly do this.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (H8QX8)

212 Creepy Joe may not be as revered in the black community as some think. A local pundit (white) proclaimed Bidet's appeal to AAs. A Journalist of Color shot back with a list of Biden's offenses against blacks.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (2+GkN)

213 Well since I am now Active Duty my schedule is kinda turn on its head. Down in VA during the week and home on the weekends so probably not but we will see
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 07:55 AM (85Gof)



We just need to get Ace to ask the CinC to have a word with your CO.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (BiNEL)

214 "Bernie Sanders: Illegal Immigrants Are Entitled To The Same Government Benefits As Citizens
"

His position on the impact of illegal immigration has....evolved.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/359188/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (tT0V4)

215 210 It just amazes me that the evidence of the entire 20th century notwithstanding, some Democrats are still voting for Breadline Bernie.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (NVYyb)

We're slipping down the runs of rationality, into a black hole of a world in which truth, facts, evidence are the phantasms of the hateful.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (H8QX8)

216 Billboard?

"Mini-Mike thinks every farmer is Ted Kaczynski."

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (I7upL)

217 We just need to get Ace to ask the CinC to have a word with your CO.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (BiNEL)

That would be the surgeon general I guess lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:03 AM (85Gof)

218 My brother is a Bernie bro. Sickmaking.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

---

Yeah, one of my sisters is also. You know, the PhD., "Doctor" she wants to be known as - by her sibs.

A counselor - the one that refused to look in on my mentally ill wife now and then.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 08:03 AM (Y4EXg)

219 0 It just amazes me that the evidence of the entire 20th century notwithstanding, some Democrats are still voting for Breadline Bernie.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 08:00 AM (NVYyb)

History and Logic were never their best courses in college

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:04 AM (85Gof)

220 If you can get here by hook or by crook your entitled to all the handouts you can get.
Democrats winning strategy

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 08:04 AM (ZCEU2)

221 Oh well, time to toddle off.

Don't burn the place down. Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2020 08:04 AM (I7upL)

222 Yay congrats on the successful kids party, krak!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:05 AM (G546f)

223 "The Trump campaign and/or RNC could produce some absolutely brutal ads about Sanders and Socialism/Communism. I wonder if they will."

Kinda hard to fight against Trump saying that SOME rich and powerful men enjoy a special physical relationship with Some women.

Uphill battle.....etc.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:05 AM (tT0V4)

224 We're slipping down the runs of rationality, into a black hole of a world in which truth, facts, evidence are the phantasms of the hateful.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:02 AM (H8QX


When only your feelz are of importance, your country is headed to a bad place!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:06 AM (BiNEL)

225 I don't get why the Democrat Establishment is against Bernie. Bernie promises to deliver just about everything that for the past 12 years the Dem politicians and pundits have been saying needs to be done:

Total FedGov-controlled healthcare, free college and trade school, drastically reduced defense spending, equal rights for LGBTQXYZ persons (actually, government-enforced privileges for them), banning fracking, Green New Deal in-place by 12 hours after Bernie's inauguration, legal abortion at any stage of gestation and until X days after birth, wage equality, and socialist economics across the board.

The only Dem Utopia things Bernie is maybe squishy on are Open Borders and Foreign Trade Policy.

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 08:06 AM (AMIL/)

226 201
Joe had a good showing in Colorado. He's gonna be the candidate. Go Joe Go.
============

This is either a message from the future (a week from Tuesday) or maybe from 1988. I wonder which...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 08:07 AM (NVYyb)

227 If Grayhound can declare they have sanctuary busses, can't we all declare that we have sanctuary vehicles?

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:07 AM (Tnijr)

228 "This is either a message from the future (a week from Tuesday) or maybe from 1988. I wonder which..."

Well, it is the weekend.

Maybe Ace took his time machine out for a spin.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:08 AM (tT0V4)

229 Bernie thinks borders should be open to people wanting to get in, loves countries that have borders closed to people wanting to get out.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:08 AM (oVJmc)

230 Commissar Hrothgar

Excellent. I was promised delivery by Monday.

I hope they all arrived undamaged.

Book rate is an inexpensive way to ship things.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:09 AM (u82oZ)

231 " loves countries that have borders closed to people wanting to get out."

Did Breadline Bernie ever have a stated position on the iron curtain?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:10 AM (tT0V4)

232 Did Breadline Bernie ever have a stated position on the iron curtain?


He enjoyed his honeymoon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:11 AM (oVJmc)

233 Defenestrus can put a stained glass sunroof in and have a sanctuary Humvee.

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:11 AM (Tnijr)

234 IMO socialism is popular with the cool kidz these days because of the indoctrination they've received in public schools and the fact that upon graduation, either from HS or a "university/college" with a social degree of one sort or another, there's no work for them.

These people can't count change, drive, operate basic tools and are socially retarded. They live in their mom's basements.

Having the gubmint take care of them seems like a winner in their eyes. The more socially bankrupt ones want revenge.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2020 08:11 AM (3H9h1)

235 "He enjoyed his honeymoon."

And that hideous wall was intact at the time?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:12 AM (tT0V4)

236 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:09 AM (u82oZ)

All was in order!

And thanks for the overachieving contents.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:12 AM (BiNEL)

237 I think Bloomberg will win the PA dem primary. He's the new improved Biden.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:13 AM (2+GkN)

238 Martini Farmer

A generation of caring, feeling people deliberately asking to be a slave.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:13 AM (u82oZ)

239 Why work if the planet is going to melt down in a dozen years?

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 08:13 AM (ZCEU2)

240 Apparently we (USA) have only tested 400 ppl for the Coronavirus
Sorry but I'm pretty sure we are burying our heads in the sand if true

Look at Italy - they only started testing because one local showed up at the ER with suspicious pneumonia and now they have 4 towns in lockdown snd the Venice Carnivale canceled

Of course I'm freaking out because our trip to Florence & Rome is teo weeks away. Maybe by then there'll be an Italian mucce out front telling us sorry, country is closed

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:14 AM (G546f)

241 What's the difference between "Sanctuary" land of any kind, farms, cities, counties, states or whatever, and "Sovereign" land of a similar kind? If Democrats believe illegals have special rights under the laws, can Bitter Clingers stop paying taxes and ignore BLM rules throughout the west?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 23, 2020 08:14 AM (NVYyb)

242 235 "He enjoyed his honeymoon."

And that hideous wall was intact at the time?



I was shocked to find this out yesterday. I thought he honeymooned in the 60s or 70s, but it was 1988. He toured the USSR in its final years, and still thought it was peaches and cream. The system he came back and raved about collapsed immediately following.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:14 AM (oVJmc)

243 Commissar Hrothga

You are the one with the truest source of wealth imaginable: grandchildren. Hope this helps.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (u82oZ)

244 Got a bunch of stuff to do and still sadly no new book for the Book Thread.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (ZCEU2)

245 Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 08:06 AM

Berns approach is "right now" and that really turns off a lot of folks. Old time Dem's prefer the incrementalism they can get the GOPe to agree with

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (DB16e)

246 "Back in the 1980s, 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., wanted to send children to the Soviet Union and other communist regimes to learn about communism and socialism.

His statement was made on Bernie Speaks with the Community; a local television show show that Sanders starred in back when he was mayor of Burlington, Vermont. A recent story at Politico magazine points out some other highlights of Bernie's time as a local TV star."

with video of original broadcast, from conservativereview.com

https://tinyurl.com/v6ju5ro

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at February 23, 2020 08:16 AM (2GPSc)

247 Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2020 08:11 AM (3H9h1)

But this doesn't explain Bernie's appeal to people like my brother: undergraduate and graduate degrees from Harvard, very successful independent contractor, three kids, wife successful small business owner.

Politics operates at psycho-pathological levels we can't always measure easily.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:16 AM (H8QX8)

248 244 Got a bunch of stuff to do and still sadly no new book for the Book Thread.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (ZCEU2)

Writing a new book, or reading a new book?

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:17 AM (ONvIw)

249 Think of the idiots who actually walk into a voting booth and vote for Bernie Sanders.

They are out there......prepare accordingly.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 08:17 AM (Z+IKu)

250 You are the one with the truest source of wealth imaginable: grandchildren. Hope this helps.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (u82oZ)


A work in progress, but yesterday, with children, grandchildren, and some friends that love to cook, was delightful!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:18 AM (BiNEL)

251 The establishment dems don't want Bernie because spells disaster for the party - loses WH and kills downballot demonrats. White collar professionals in the burbs won't vote for him.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:18 AM (2+GkN)

252 Dan Smoot, is it the healthcare issue maybe? That really is the weak point of the right, imo

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:19 AM (G546f)

253 If Bernie makes it, we need to crush him -- annihilate Socialism in our time. It can't be close.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (H8QX8)

254 Time for chores to begin.

Have a blessed day, everyone. May your path through life be serene and filled with beauty. And green lights.

Hand washing is the new head on a swivel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (u82oZ)

255 Think of the idiots who actually walk into a voting booth and vote for Bernie Sanders.

Sigh. I try not to

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (85Gof)

256 249 Think of the idiots who actually walk into a voting booth and vote for Bernie Sanders.

They are out there......prepare accordingly.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 08:17 AM (Z+IKu)

Yep. Horrible failure to educate about communism and dictatorships in general. There are precious few stories coming out of Venezuela these days?

Bernie is at least trumpeting his views, Buttie, by contrast, tries to look mainstream while he was indoctrinated from the cradle by his Gramscian papa

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (ONvIw)

257 Question for candidate Sanders:

Do you wish that Russia would return to its former soviet socialist form of government?

Posted by: goatexchange at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (qQTkI)

258 Dan Smoot, is it the healthcare issue maybe? That really is the weak point of the right, imo
Posted by: vmom 2020

---

Possibly. It sounds good - healthcare for everyone!

(Nevermind about cost, availability, impact on prices, markets, medical professionals, etc.)

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 08:21 AM (Y4EXg)

259 3 If Bernie makes it, we need to crush him -- annihilate Socialism in our time. It can't be close.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:20 AM (H8QX

So you mean close down ALL the colleges and universities? I am good with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:21 AM (85Gof)

260 Even my idiot cousin in real estate in Austin isn't voting for Bernie. Rational people can't support his policies and his personality is repellent - that he may get 40-45 million votes in November is all the reason needed for an Article 5 event.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (SwWMX)

261
*maniacal cacklesharting*

Posted by: HRC at February 23, 2020 06:20 AM (ldmQR)



You know, that's actually a real thing.

Also rumored to be heard during Arkancides.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (rd+Bu)

262 240. Vmom, I am sorry to hear that. There is a significant Chinese immigrant population in Italy.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (2+GkN)

263 Possibly. It sounds good - healthcare for everyone!

(Nevermind about cost, availability, impact on prices, markets, medical professionals, etc.)
Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 08:21 AM (Y4EXg)

Who is actually denied access to "healthcare"?

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (ONvIw)

264 Think of the idiots who actually walk into a voting booth and vote for Bernie Sanders.
They are out there......prepare accordingly.
More coffee.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 08:17 AM (Z+IKu)


If anyone has doubts about the level of preparation required for the future, research Virginia's Governor public statements and the rejection of a Republican legislature majority to elect a radical Democrat majority in spite of the ample evidence that they were evil!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (BiNEL)

265 Who is actually denied access to "healthcare"?
Posted by: CN

--

Oh now, there you go - fighting back with facts.
-- leftists everywhere

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2020 08:23 AM (Y4EXg)

266 Eugene Debs, a socialist, won approx. 2% of the popular vote for President in 1920 iirc. While in Prison.

Yes boysband girls. Socialists, Anarchists, Communists, Fascists, Bombthrowers, et al. have been a problem for a very long time.

It's why a Moratorium was placed on immigration until the Rats took over in 1965 and flooded the country with more gibsmedats.

And here we are. Clown Show 2.0, or is 3.0? Tough to keep track without a program.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2020 08:24 AM (H4xk5)

267 Who is actually denied access to "healthcare"?
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (ONvIw)

Actually no one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:24 AM (85Gof)

268 But this doesn't explain Bernie's appeal to people like my brother: undergraduate and graduate degrees from Harvard, very successful independent contractor, three kids, wife successful small business owner.

Politics operates at psycho-pathological levels we can't always measure easily.


There are four large questions that everyone asks at one time or another:

1) Who am I?, 2) Why am I here? 3) Why is the world messed up? 4) Is there a way to fix it?

Socialists/Secularists answer 4) with "more education and government".

Education is why we have Common Core and this huge push to keep people, for as long as possible in an education program - for all of the rest, you need to be controlled and managed by government that knows best.

Posted by: 🐧 at February 23, 2020 08:24 AM (CVXiA)

269 Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:19 AM (G546f)

That may be part of it, vmom. I've heard him praise the national healthcare in Europe. But mainly, he thinks all republicans are patriarchal capitalist pigs, the downfall of society. It's something hard-wired in him.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:25 AM (H8QX8)

270 Well, our healthcare IS broken right now (mostly because of all previous attempted govt "fixes" including the biggest one - health insurance via employer)

The problem is that Ocare showed us that beither govt nor industry can be trusted not yo screw it up further

It is a dilemma

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:25 AM (G546f)

271 Dan, sounds like Harvard indoctrination

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:25 AM (G546f)

272 The times they are a-changing:

Virginia State Motto (Old and Tired):
Sic Semper Tyrannis!


Virginia State Motto (New and True):
Sic Semper Volgus!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:26 AM (BiNEL)

273
can't we all declare that we have sanctuary vehicles?
Posted by: f'd

I self-identify as a Greyhound bus with diplomatic immunity, so those bitches can't touch me!

I do have a helluva time using the toilet, though.

Posted by: Gooshy, listening carefully to Zathrus at February 23, 2020 08:27 AM (A668L)

274 Dan Smoot, the explanation is super easy. Does Harvard brother hate Christianity?

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:27 AM (2+GkN)

275 So you mean close down ALL the colleges and universities? I am good with that

I'm even better.

Posted by: Coronoavirus at February 23, 2020 08:28 AM (CVXiA)

276 245 Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 08:06 AM

Berns approach is "right now" and that really turns off a lot of folks. Old time Dem's prefer the incrementalism they can get the GOPe to agree with

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at February 23, 2020 08:15 AM (DB16e)


You are right. His campaign stump speech mantra is, "People are sick and tired of (fill in the blank), and I'll fix it as soon as I'm elected!!!!"

The other thing that scares the Dem Establishment to death is the same as what scared/scares them and the GOPe about Trump: Bernie is not beholden to many if any parts of the Establishment, and Bernie will bust-up a lot of Establishment rice-bowls.

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 08:28 AM (AMIL/)

277 I think people vote for their own self interests, which may be misguided by their situation and education.

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:29 AM (Tnijr)

278 Good morning everyone.

That ice fishing picture on Bing's home page looks like Coney Island on the 4th of July. So, Matthew McConaughey is lying to us?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2020 08:31 AM (sGotD)

279 People falsely equate insurance with healthcare. EMTALA assures that emergency treatment cannot be "denied" and emergency is open to interpretation. Hospitals eat a lot of uncompensated care.

Locally, in NJ, the urgent care centers actually do take cash. A two view xray, if you pay with a card or cash is 115.00 for example. Many big pharmacies give you very low cost antibiotics as well.

This notion of Americans dying in the street from infections is stupid. The fact that this lie is perpetrated might be what deters people from seeking care at all.

A few years back, when I was still working, a new MSW presented at work with an obvious infection but stated she was unable to be treated as she was not yet on the hospital's plan. She, a medical social worker, was unaware that medical groups took cash and that treatment for what turned out to be strep would not bankrupt her.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:31 AM (ONvIw)

280 "Elections are a kind of advance auction of stolen goods"

Mencken

Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2020 08:31 AM (H4xk5)

281 Regarding the "Real ID" B.S. - here in Kentucky the state government has been struggling with bad equipment, software, policies and procedures for almost 2 years. The documentation requirements originally set out were nearly impossible to meet if you needed the Real ID to travel by air. Even I would have struggled to find the 5 required documents. Your current drivers license wasn't one of them until the state realized that very few legit citizens could meet the requirements.

I believe this was be design.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Took me three trips to the DMV. Biggi problem was my SS card - I had my original laminated almost 30 years ago. Looks great. However, no laminated SS cards are acceptable for RealID, so I had to go to SS to get a new one.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 08:32 AM (B7KlG)

282 Bernie appeals to the Lib version of us. They hate the Dem party and what they see as its corruption so they want an "outsider" that wants to burn it down and rebuild it.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (cknjq)

283 The fallacy of people being turned away for health care is the same as the Russians controlling our elections

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (85Gof)

284 Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump. It's like he's some kind of savant or something. Does the press hang around outside under a balcony at his house waiting for his statement of the day?

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (Tnijr)

285 Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump. It's like he's some kind of savant or something. Does the press hang around outside under a balcony at his house waiting for his statement of the day?
Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (Tnijr)

I would like 5 minutes behind the gym with him like in high school

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:34 AM (85Gof)

286 Re: Bernie's little 'exchange program'

Letting the commies see what we have here would often result in them defecting. Why was that, Bernie?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:34 AM (oVJmc)

287 The MSW wanted us to hand her a prescription, but this is against the rules. We pushed her out the door to a local GP. Her cost 50.00. Less than she spent on a pair of shoes or a weekend dinner out.

It appalls me that people fork over plenty for clothing (AOC's 580.00 sequin get up) or entertainment, but refuse to accept responsibility for their health.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:35 AM (ONvIw)

288 I have been to Russia. I went there and met strong workers. They were committed to our revolutionary struggle of the new man's rise against the capitalist imperialists.



Please donate to my campaign.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 23, 2020 08:35 AM (Pgcou)

289 Anyone know what's happened with Blue Bird of F'ing Joy? Have not seen a comment by him in a long time. Banned?

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2020 08:36 AM (AMIL/)

290 274 Dan Smoot, the explanation is super easy. Does Harvard brother hate Christianity?
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:27 AM (2+GkN)

Doesn't talk about it. Family seems agnostic. And he has a Masters from Harvard Divinity. Of course, the Divinity School is full of "liberation theologists," aka, cultural Marxists.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:36 AM (H8QX8)

291 Part of the healthcare/ health insurance confusion problem is the messed up pricing system

Traditionally you go to a doctor or hospital and they make you sign a form saying you are responsible for all charges but they don't tell you how much, even a ballpark estimate or upper limit

Thankfully there have been more urgent care places opening up that do post prices now
Even some hospitals and doctors are doing it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:36 AM (G546f)

292 Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump.


Seriously, when was the last time you heard anything about him that wasn't over his loony politics?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:36 AM (oVJmc)

293 Dan, sounds like Harvard indoctrination.

Yep.

We had issues with our oldest daughter during HS. We were living in Kommiefornia at the time. She was skipping classes, smoking (OMG), not following directions, etc. When we met with her GC I suggested some disciplinary actions, both at school and home. I was told that sounded "militaristic" and wasn't "approved."

My response was along the lines: lolgf

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2020 08:37 AM (3H9h1)

294 "Seriously, when was the last time you heard anything about him that wasn't over his loony politics?"

Rob, who?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:37 AM (tT0V4)

295 Rep Steve King says Haney Didn't Kill Himself ... and that he was a patriot and a target.

link is to King's tweet about that

https://tinyurl.com/v33qhuw

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2020 08:37 AM (Cus5s)

296 I don't think anyone will accept a laminated SS card, Jean.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 08:37 AM (MmFTx)

297 > Even RR was not able to change so much shit so quick.

A hundred or so years from now, when the history of these times is written with the perspective of distance, it's going to be generally agreed that major factors in saving the country were Gaylord being such a lazy shit, and Harry Reid being such a fucking dumbass.

They left all those sweet, sweet judgeships just sitting there, especially after Reid put the nuclear option in play.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (Ewo9R)

298 "when was the last time you heard anything about him that wasn't over his loony politics?"

I don't know him for any other thing but "Meathead".

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (Tnijr)

299 295: Shall we trust Wray's G-men to investigate?

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (ONvIw)

300 I'm not certain the progressivevvoters are reacting to the demo party in anger by voting for Bernie. I think they are just that far left now.
They like stealing 20 percent of everybody Else's stuff.
Also the idea of shutting up dissenters from theft.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (lXk8b)

301 She, a medical social worker, was unaware that medical groups took cash and that treatment for what turned out to be strep would not bankrupt her.
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:31 AM (ONvIw)


What's this you say, pay for something myself?
Quelle horreur!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (BiNEL)

302 Who is actually denied access to "healthcare"?
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (ONvIw)

The mentally ill who should be in some level of managed care, drug users who are paranoid, wounded criminals who fear arrest, disabled veterans who can't navigate the VA maze, and illegals who don't know that they can just walk in and skip on the bill.

And, of course, regular, hard working 1099 Joe's who will never step foot in a government assistance office, ask for charity, or go into debt. They get health care when someone calls the paramedics.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (B7KlG)

303 > Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump.

It's just kind of amazing how a guy who's best known for playing a character called "Meathead" thinks that he's fucking Socrates, or Stephen Hawking, or something.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:39 AM (Ewo9R)

304 " I'm not certain the progressivevvoters are reacting to the demo party in anger by voting for Bernie. I think they are just that far left now.
They like stealing 20 percent of everybody Else's stuff.
Also the idea of shutting up dissenters from theft."

They were promised free shit.

They want their free shit.

Pretty simple, actually.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (tT0V4)

305 What's this you say, pay for something myself?
Quelle horreur!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (BiNEL)

Yet she had no qualms buying plenty of new clothes and planning a ski trip.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (ONvIw)

306 You all get up way too early.
My son just got on a flight to London for business. Going to Brussels and then to Israel. A little anxious with all this virus stuff.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (QzF6i)

307 The Phil Haney murder reeks of deep state black ops

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (G546f)

308 Mike Blomberg eats short ribs.

Posted by: Billboards we'd like to see at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (Tnijr)

309 307 The Phil Haney murder reeks of deep state black ops


Fortunately, the FBI is on the case!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:41 AM (oVJmc)

310 It appalls me that people fork over plenty for clothing (AOC's 580.00 sequin get up) or entertainment, but refuse to accept responsibility for their health.

Probably because everyone feels that a having a medical issue is "unfair". Sort of like many "intersectionalist" biological women who find it unfair that their physical condition requires them to purchase female specific products while biological males do not.

"I have this condition and you don't - it's not fair, I shouldn't have to carry this burden myself." also translates into "You are wealthier than me, its not fair you shouldn't hoard it all for yourself."

Modern individual Progressives want to socialize their miseries and yet hypocritically privatize their own gains.

Posted by: 🐧 at February 23, 2020 08:42 AM (CVXiA)

311 Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump. It's like he's some kind of savant or something. Does the press hang around outside under a balcony at his house waiting for his statement of the day?
Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (Tnijr)

That commie fat meatheaded bastard is always running his mouth.

Where's Archie when we need him.....

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (Z+IKu)

312 Sharon, prayers for your son

Remind him to wash his hands and no kissing the locals, no matter how pretty

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (G546f)

313 Via seems to be a big sale now days. We all deserve a life of gentle breezes

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (lXk8b)

314 Well when I ask what time the Yankee game is on now, I might actually get an answer

Thank G-D for base a ball , well except for that asshole commissioner and a certain team in texas

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (85Gof)

315 290. Well there you are . Evangelical Christians align with the GOP. They are the one true religious enemy of Marxism. It used to be the RCC but no longer because a liberation theo-Marxist cuot currently runs my Church.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (2+GkN)

316 I was part of an opinion panel about 14 years ago on healthcare and insurance. I cannot remember who administered it, but it was very detailed and last about 6 months. During that time, I constantly stressed the lack of knowledge or disclosure about how much treatment actually costs. I didn't want to know what insurance paid or what doctors accepted. I could never get an answer. That was my number one issue.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (MmFTx)

317 DeBlasio must be in line for some commissar role with Bernie the way he is pimping for him.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 23, 2020 08:44 AM (SwWMX)

318 During that time, I constantly stressed the lack of knowledge or disclosure about how much treatment actually costs. I didn't want to know what insurance paid or what doctors accepted. I could never get an answer. That was my number one issue.
Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (MmFTx)

Yup spot on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:44 AM (85Gof)

319 Sharon yikes. I'd detest going on a plane with others breathing the same air right now

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:44 AM (lXk8b)

320 The Phil Haney murder reeks of deep state black ops

If they really wanted to send a message, they would have left his body at Fort Marcy Park

Posted by: 🐧 at February 23, 2020 08:44 AM (CVXiA)

321 292 Every day Rob Reiner has something to say about Trump.

When you hear these leftist fools saying something stupid

just remember

It's a regurgitation of last night's cocktail party chatter

many people said they heard the "deplorable" diatribe over a Hampton's coffee table before Cankles went public with it

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 08:44 AM (rpxSz)

322
I just LOVE polishing my nuclear wombat with mango salsa rust blueing when I need to get my front left sway bar re-chakra'd!

Posted by: Joey Bidet at February 23, 2020 08:45 AM (w3OLr)

323 Who had a political platform of

He who does not work, shall not eat.

[ ] V. Lenin

[ ] Donald Trump

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:45 AM (tT0V4)

324 > Sort of like many "intersectionalist" biological women who find it unfair that their physical condition requires them to purchase female specific products while biological males do not.

I was born without a vagina.

Therefore all feminists should be required to provide me with the use of theirs at no charge.

Right?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:45 AM (Ewo9R)

325 Vmom, I asked him if he had a face mask and he said no, I have purel. They all think they are invulnerable.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 08:45 AM (QzF6i)

326 The mentally ill who should be in some level of managed care, drug users who are paranoid, wounded criminals who fear arrest, disabled veterans who can't navigate the VA maze, and illegals who don't know that they can just walk in and skip on the bill.

And, of course, regular, hard working 1099 Joe's who will never step foot in a government assistance office, ask for charity, or go into debt. They get health care when someone calls the paramedics.
Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2020 08:38 AM (B7KlG)

I don't care about wounded criminals. As for the mentally ill and paranoid drug users, they often avoid treatment. We used to get them, commit them, treat them, provide them with a discharge plan that often included a place to live. They rapidly went off their meds and back to threatening behavior and street drugs. I will give my home state some cred for Involuntary Outpatient Commitment, which has helped with some of this backsliding with the mentally ill

Many groups gladly inform illegals about EMTALA.
EMTALA is for everyone, btw, not just illegals. Nobody is told "put up the cash or GTFO".

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:47 AM (ONvIw)

327 "I was born without a vagina.
Therefore all feminists should be required to provide me with the use of theirs at no charge"

You were born without a car too, but you can rent one.

Posted by: Billboards we'd like to see at February 23, 2020 08:47 AM (Tnijr)

328 Via ha. Many wouldn't even put in the effort to make their own dinner. we're going to need more Mickey ds

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:47 AM (lXk8b)

329 Pope cautions against 'unfair' Middle East peace plans
Although the head of the Catholic Church did not mention any specific proposals by name, it appears he was referring to Trump's 'Deal of the Century' that allows Israel to annex all of its settlements along with the strategic Jordan Valley

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:47 AM (85Gof)

330 Bernie appeals to the Lib version of us. They hate the Dem party and what they see as its corruption so they want an "outsider" that wants to burn it down and rebuild it.

Sound familiar?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (cknjq)


Their party is just as fucking corrupt as the GOP is/was and needs a thorough purge of all the careerists. MiniMike is kind of their Trump equivalent in terms of being an outsider but is thoroughly unlikeable and I can't see him gaining a foothold no matter how much The View cackling hens try to convince the wine moms.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 08:48 AM (y7DUB)

331 My son just got on a flight to London for business. Going to Brussels and then to Israel. A little anxious with all this virus stuff.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (QzF6i)
~~~~~

I think he'll be okay. The virus is not widespread there.

It could be worse...went to a wedding yesterday and the bride and groom are leaving today for a honeymoon in Cambodia and Vietnam.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2020 08:49 AM (sGotD)

332 This was always the danger when we gave up civics and historic realities in schools

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:49 AM (lXk8b)

333 Pope cautions against 'unfair' Middle East peace plans
Although the head of the Catholic Church did not mention any specific proposals by name, it appears he was referring to Trump's 'Deal of the Century' that allows Israel to annex all of its settlements along with the strategic Jordan Valley



Catholic Pope involved in conflict between Muslims and Jews.

Stay in your lane, commie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:49 AM (oVJmc)

334 ""I was born without a vagina.
Therefore all feminists should be required to provide me with the use of theirs at no charge"



My underwear is a vagina desert.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:49 AM (tT0V4)

335 315
290. Well there you are . Evangelical Christians align with the GOP.
They are the one true religious enemy of Marxism. It used to be the RCC
but no longer because a liberation theo-Marxist cuot currently runs my
Church.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:43 AM (2+GkN)

---
Uh, no.

I was at mass just yesterday and they seemed pretty committed to stopping abortion.

It's fine to disagree with the pope on politics. Certainly I do.

But let's not forget that the Church is bigger by far than one man.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 08:50 AM (cfSRQ)

336 330 Bernie appeals to the Lib version of us. They hate the Dem party and what they see as its corruption so they want an "outsider" that wants to burn it down and rebuild it.

Sound familiar?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 08:33 AM (cknjq)

Good observation.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:50 AM (H8QX8)

337 > bride and groom are leaving today for a honeymoon in Cambodia

I'm old enough to remember when that was a punk rock song by The Dead Kennedys.

Well, you'll work harder with a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers till you starve
Then your head is skewered on a stake

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:50 AM (Ewo9R)

338 " This was always the danger when we gave up civics and historic realities in schools"

What some call a danger, others call a desired outcome.



Potato, Potahto.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:51 AM (tT0V4)

339 Only problem is, Sanders won't burn down anything or rebuild anything. He'll just be a God-awful soup sandwich of incompetence.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:52 AM (H8QX8)

340 Via. True ,as it was intentional

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:52 AM (lXk8b)

341 329. This pope is truly an infamnia NGU. He is a species of Antichrist.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:52 AM (2+GkN)

342 Dan. We can hope

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (lXk8b)

343 Hiya willow !

Posted by: JT at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (arJlL)

344 Andersonville Cooper demonstrates a hissy type fit, or something. Rob Reiner schedules an intervention.

Posted by: klaftern at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (RuIsu)

345
Did Sanders ever ackshuawllee formally join the Democrat party?

As much as I'd love for Burnie to win and perhaps fracture the Dim Party for a generation or so,

it seems the fix would be very easy if there's some old, never formally employed rule that any person who runs as the Democrat candidate must be a registered Democrat.

I can see the Elite Dims going all, "Oops. Well lookee here. Rules is rules. Your votes can't count. Thanks for playing."

at some point, before the convention.

Maybe with the proviso that all votes which Burnie gets after joining can count.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (z0XD8)

346 I almost forgot about this asshat..

https://twitter.com/markos/status/1069291023589769216

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (tT0V4)

347 Only problem is, Sanders won't burn down anything or rebuild anything. He'll just be a God-awful soup sandwich of incompetence.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

Just once I would love to see one of these chowderheads say "holy crap, this socialism/communism is shit!"

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2020 08:53 AM (vd8XM)

348 Only problem is, Sanders won't burn down anything or rebuild anything. He'll just be a God-awful soup sandwich of incompetence.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 08:52 AM (H8QX


That's why there's an army of unhinged violent halfwits ready to interpret his teachings.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (t+qrx)

349 Love the idea of a Bernie_ sic administration. Two little dictators.

Not

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (lXk8b)

350 > Only problem is, Sanders won't burn down anything or rebuild anything. He'll just be a God-awful soup sandwich of incompetence.

The thing I'd be worried about with Burnie is who he'd pick as a running mate. I wouldn't expect Burnie himself to last out even one term. If he had an energetic young commie as veep, though, that would worry me.

And, given the history of communist leaders, it should worry him. "Oh, Comrade Burnie has had a bad cold, that's why he hasn't been seen for the last couple of years".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (Ewo9R)

351 Kind of ironic that Sanders isn't even a Democrat and they let him run and now he is destroying the party he isn't even a member of.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (QzF6i)

352 Morning JT. Waves

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (lXk8b)

353 Romney is pals with dingy Harry now

the 987th reason why he lost in 2012

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (rpxSz)

354 I almost forgot about this asshat..



Must be hard to be yesterday's golden boy, now forgotten...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (oVJmc)

355 Have to head out. Hugs and stuff to people that need them.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (lXk8b)

356 353 Romney is pals with dingy Harry now

the 987th reason why he lost in 2012
Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (rpxSz)

So is Mike Lee, BTW

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (ONvIw)

357 bride and groom are leaving today for a honeymoon in Cambodia
----------
I'm old enough to remember when that was a punk rock song by The Dead Kennedys.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:50 AM (Ewo9R)
~~~~~

Ha! Dead Kennedys would fit as they're both in their early 40s, and both dippy hippies from Ashville, NC. They're not worried at all!

I didn't bother mentioning to anyone that Vietnam has just closed all schools until the end of March. Yeah. No worries.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2020 08:56 AM (sGotD)

358 > Must be hard to be yesterday's golden boy, now forgotten...

"Golden", in this sense, means "gay as a tree full of monkeys", right?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:56 AM (Ewo9R)

359 You Americans have too many people in prison. The solution for this is to not put so many people in prison. This can be accomplished by disposal before imprisonment.

Posted by: China at February 23, 2020 08:56 AM (Tnijr)

360 Bloomturd's spending dwarfs all the other donks

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 08:56 AM (rpxSz)

361 341
329. This pope is truly an infamnia NGU. He is a species of Antichrist.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 08:52 AM (2+GkN)

---
Pope Francis has done a great service to the Church.

He has exposed its corrupt elements far better than any reformer could have hoped. I was among the many who assumed that the abusive priests were an aberration, but Francis' actions have shown that there was in fact a Lavender Mafia and that certain leaders deliberately shielded them from being held to account.

For this we should be profoundly grateful, because now we see the problem clearly. Until we had that, reform would have been impossible.

"Oft evil will shall evil mar."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 08:57 AM (cfSRQ)

362 So is Mike Lee, BTW
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (ONvIw)


fuck him too

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2020 08:57 AM (rpxSz)

363 > Ha! Dead Kennedys would fit as they're both in their early 40s, and both dippy hippies from Ashville, NC. They're not worried at all!

Maybe there'll be a quarantine and they just won't be allowed back in the United States.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2020 08:58 AM (Ewo9R)

364 Yeah, nothing at all suspicious about that death,
right? He was talking to DHS about going back to work there, and he was
getting married in a few months. So obviously he had nothing to look
forward to in his life. Why not just drive out to the middle of nowhere
and shoot himself in the head? Makes perfect sense! And it's surely
just a happy coincidence that he was a major critic of the Obama
administration's practice of erasing islamic terrorists' records so that
they could obtain all sorts of nice U.S. government jobs and benefits,
not to mention access to classified information.



Yeah, nothing suspicious here at all. Just move along, folks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2020 07:17 AM (k4dH2)


There won't be one single damn mention of it in the MFM. It's a non story for them because they are propaganda wing of the DNC. The only way it gets any notice is if Trump brings it up and then the MFM will scream that he's conspiracy mongering.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2020 08:58 AM (t+tI7)

365 Who is actually denied access to "healthcare"?

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 08:22 AM (ONvIw)



Actually no one


Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 08:24 AM---

Nobody. Around here every hospital has signs in both English and Spanish that says it is against the law to deny anyone healthcare even if they can't pay for it or have no insurance.


And there is usually a phone number you can call to report the hospital if they turn you away for not being able to pay.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 23, 2020 08:58 AM (JUOKG)

366 I didn't bother mentioning to anyone that Vietnam has just closed all schools until the end of March. Yeah. No worries.


My friend's mom is in South Korea. She keeps sending reports back about how awful the outbreak is there.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2020 08:58 AM (MmFTx)

367 #335 "While God Himself is the ultimate rock for His people, He is not alone; for by a special gift of the Father, Peter became the rock foundation of the Church. As people from all ends of the earth call upon God because their hearts are fainting, God's Church founded on the rock of Peter is there ready to receive and strengthen them." - Daily Meditations on the Psalms

Posted by: Winston at February 23, 2020 08:59 AM (RyWXu)

368 There won't be one single damn mention of it in the MFM.

Depends if they'll be able to resist doing a "republicans pounce!" style thing in order to call Steve King a conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2020 08:59 AM (6XLoz)

369 Glad you survived, krak.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2020 08:59 AM (1CjJc)

370 That's why there's an army of unhinged violent halfwits ready to interpret his teachings.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2020 08:54 AM (t+qrx)


Yes!

Bernie would be managed from day one by the far left.

And his "accomplishments" would be putting into motion policies and definitions that will be impossible to unravel.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 23, 2020 08:59 AM (TdMsT)

371 Pope just pontificated : Henceforth it is BAT-LESS FRIDAYS.

Posted by: saf at February 23, 2020 09:00 AM (5IHGB)

372 A,H - that 'one man' carries a lot of clout. His pronouncements extend beyond the political and muddy basic Christian principles. He has also personally endangered the lives of Roman Catholic mainland Chinese. I got no time for minimization speech about the danger THAT ASSHOLE presents to global Christianity and any liberty-minded world citizen in general.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 09:00 AM (2+GkN)

373 If Bernie gets the nomination, the convention should be a hoot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2020 09:00 AM (85Gof)

374 And there is usually a phone number you can call to report the hospital if they turn you away for not being able to pay.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 23, 2020 08:58 AM (JUOKG)

And the penalties for the facility are huge.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (ONvIw)

375 Le NOOD


(Books)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (tT0V4)

376 My biggest worry about the virus(aside from my traveling son) is that it will tank the stock market and ruin Trump's re-election bid.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (QzF6i)

377 books

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 23, 2020 09:01 AM (cknjq)

378 Ah, living up to my nic again. See you all in books.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (QzF6i)

379 Honeymooning in Cambodia and Nam, Bernie winning the Dem nomination - you could make a movie about an acid trip in Chicago 68 gone wrong.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 23, 2020 09:02 AM (SwWMX)

380 #366 We have a back-office in Manila and one of the out of office replies the other day from an account rep. was "under self quarantine for 7 days having travelled to a region with an outbreak." INSTAPUNDIT is posting daily COVID-19 updates.

Posted by: Winston at February 23, 2020 09:03 AM (RyWXu)

381 Sharon, that is s worry, even though Trump is the best person to have in charge in this kind of crisis

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 09:03 AM (G546f)

382 Socialism sinks all boats...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:03 AM (tT0V4)

383 Let's also not forget that the "Church" has embraced Liberation Theology since back in the 1950's, at least. This isn't about who is pope now.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 09:04 AM (8IOEj)

384 I almost forgot about this asshat..



Must be hard to be yesterday's golden boy, now forgotten...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 08:55 AM (oVJmc)


Fuck that guy in particular, joining the cast of dumbass losers no one cares about: Jarles Chohnson, Patterico, whoever that dicknose was who had a meltdown here over EoJ...

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2020 09:05 AM (y7DUB)

385 Tyson Fury appears to be the next Buster Douglas. What

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:06 AM (PUmDY)

386 EMTALA is not the issue

It's how much you are on the hook for for the services
Last year had to call 911 for the kid
Ambulance ride (2 miles, no treatment during the ride, just transport) was around a thousand bucks
We have a high deductible plan do I had to pay out of pocket
911 EMTs are township selected and basically a monopoly do they charge what they charge
One hour at ER for dx of a virus would gsve been another thousand, but insurance negotiated rare got it down to 600

Access to care is there
Feeling helpless about how much it can cost is also there

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 09:10 AM (G546f)

387 Looks like Trump may indeed have brought a reduction in violence to Afghanistan.


Meanwhile in the Democratic stronghold of Baltimore......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2020 09:15 AM (tT0V4)

388 Odds of Eric Ciaramella killing himself in a field somewhere?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2020 09:23 AM (oVJmc)

389 307 The Phil Haney murder reeks of deep state black ops
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 23, 2020 08:40 AM (G546f)

Make sure it locks like a suicide, and a loner.

Got it?

Posted by: Deep State operative at February 23, 2020 09:37 AM (HWbuD)

390 Here is the thing about commie Anders and the other socialist democrats national healthcare nightmare pipe dream. You take one look at the British health system and you would fucki g s team. Last night I watched a hulu show 30 inches at 18. About a british girl with a rare dwarfism syndrome. Her bone growing plates fused at.about three years old. To boot her femur heads are shaped like a 20 sided dice not round. She is basically in chronic pain. In the USA I bet she would have two shiney titanium balls and sockets. In Britain. The tried to ablate the heads. And then said swim therapy and all the morphine and oxycodone you can stomach. As a fella who has had deformed femur head replaced and know how it makes the pain go away I was screaming at the tv because it was so sad. All the doctors were like nope. Nothing else we can do. Their solution was ablate the area and then let fibrous scar tissue fill the void in the joint that they created. WTF?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 23, 2020 09:40 AM (9dzlp)

391 1.80 gas, no state income tax, I can drink from a plastic straw while carrying my 45, and eating a Whataburger! God Bless Texas!

I saw this on Powerline. Yelled Yeah!

Posted by: AnnaS at February 23, 2020 09:51 AM (l4l/z)

392 But let's not forget that the Church is bigger by far than one man.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 23, 2020 08:50 AM (cfSRQ)


True. A whole bunch of Cardinals voted for this Pope. The church has a lot of problems eh?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at February 23, 2020 09:56 AM (90+00)

393 As an aside, when coming across BCE in Wikipedia, one should always edit it to BC because BCE is a white supremacist term used to diminish the role of Asians in World History as most Asian nations did not adopt Western dating systems until the 20th Century. BCE is extremely racist.


Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at February 23, 2020 10:47 AM (BJcQt)

394 383 Let's also not forget that the "Church" has embraced Liberation Theology since back in the 1950's, at least. This isn't about who is pope now.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 23, 2020 09:04 AM (8IOEj)


No, the Church has not embraced liberation theology since the 1950s at least. A few rogue bishops in Latin American countries were subscribers to this anti-Catholic philosophy. In case you missed it, John Paul II, himself a victim of both Nazis and Communists, advocated strongly against all forms of Communism, and was credited with Ronald Reagan of being instrumental in bringing down the Berlin Wall.

I *get* that you are biased against Catholics, so of course, FOR YOU...it isn't about who is Pope now.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2020 02:26 PM (kD8Fh)

395 No update from Defenestratus yet? engine troubles are never pleasant to deal with.

Posted by: Grog at February 23, 2020 06:26 PM (weXmt)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (2/22/20)

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The Saturday Night Joke

The Class Reunion

A widower and a widow attend their 60th class reunion, and a spark is rekindled. They have a lovely evening as a long ago spark is rekindled.

At the end of the night the widower asks "Dear lady, will you marry me?"

"Yes, yes I will!" she says enthusiastically.

The next morning the widower wakes up troubled. He can't quite remember if she said "Yes!" or "NO!"

Confused, he decides to call her to confirm what happened and he asks "Last night, did you say yes or no to marrying me?"

She replies "Oh I said yes! And I am so glad you called because I couldn't remember who asked me!"

H/T Hrothgar

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If you are a literal tree hugger. Be careful.

This Tree Is So Toxic, You Can't Even Stand Under It When It Rains
SIGNE DEAN21 FEB 2020
In 1999, radiologist Nicola Strickland went on a holiday to the Caribbean island of Tobago, a tropical paradise complete with idyllic, deserted beaches.

On her first morning there, she went foraging for shells and corals in the white sand, but the holiday quickly took a turn for the worse.


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Great news for you beer drinking Morons.

A DAILY tipple nearly doubles a man’s hope of hitting 90, a study says.

Those on half a pint of beer a day are 81 per cent more likely than teetotallers to reach a tenth decade.

Women who drink similar amounts increase by a third their chance of reaching that landmark.

Even blokes who consumed three nips of whisky or two pints daily — double the recommended NHS maximum — are two-thirds more likely to live to that ripe age when compared to abstainers.


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The world was saddened recently when Rush's drummer and lyricist, Neil Peart, passed away from brain cancer. What a fantastic and touching tribute. H/T Legally Sufficient


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Now that's a boat!!! And quite the Skipper. H/T Hrothgar

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Is he guilty of Valu-Rite lunch or Keto Diet?

A former American Airlines pilot says that a popular Keto diet is to blame for his “unfair” termination after he was unable to pass a breathalyzer test.

Andre Riley maintains his innocence, claiming that he “wasn’t drinking” but that a change in diet was responsible for the allegedly false negative. He had been with the airline since 2012 and was fired last year after the test was administered following a Las Vegas-to-Charlotte flight.

“I don’t want to be punished and take consequences for something that I didn’t do. That’s like admitting to a crime or going to jail even though I didn’t do it,” he said in an interview with Fox 13.

He is fighting the Department of Transportation and American Airlines, demanding his job back, but it may take a whole lot of time and effort.

“Once they forward it to the Department of Transportation you’re basically banned from being a flight attendant,” he said.


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I guess I wish I would have seen this article before my daughter was married this summer. The importance of dancing like an idiot.

One of the strangest but also most intriguing and redemptive things that humans get up to, in almost any culture one cares to study, is occasionally to gather in large groups, bathe in the rhythmic sounds of drums and flutes, organs and guitars, chants and cries, and move their arms and legs about in complicated and frenzied ways, losing themselves in the bewilderment of a dance. Dancing has a claim to be considered among the most essential and salutary activities we ever partake in. Not for nothing did Nietzsche, a painfully inhibited figure in day to day life, declare ‘I would believe only in a God who could dance’ (a comment that stands beside his equally apodictic pronouncement: ‘Without music, life would be a mistake.’

But dancing is at the same time an activity that many of us, arguably those of us who might most need to do it, are powerfully inclined to resist and deep down to fear. We stand on the side of the dance floor appalled at the possibility of being called to join in, we attempt to make our excuses the moment the music begins, we take pains that no one will ever, ever see our hips unite with a beat.


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MATERIAL WORLD - Why the Restoration Hardware Catalog Won’t Die - The surprising persistence of the mail-order business


When you enter the RH (formerly Restoration Hardware) megastore in New York City’s Meatpacking District, you might think it’s a place to buy furniture. Technically it is, with tens of thousands of square feet filled with dining-room sets and king-size beds and couches, upholstered in shades of gray and beige and beiger, and accessorized with plush rugs and metal-armed lamps. Or maybe you’ll mistake it for a hotel lobby, with its high ceilings, ample seating, and smiling concierge.

When you enter the RH (formerly Restoration Hardware) megastore in New York City’s Meatpacking District, you might think it’s a place to buy furniture. Technically it is, with tens of thousands of square feet filled with dining-room sets and king-size beds and couches, upholstered in shades of gray and beige and beiger, and accessorized with plush rugs and metal-armed lamps. Or maybe you’ll mistake it for a hotel lobby, with its high ceilings, ample seating, and smiling concierge.

But on either side of the store’s broad central path, you’ll see its true spiritual, if not practical, purpose: as a temple to the high-end furniture chain’s infamous “source books.” On twin circular tables large enough for an extended family’s Thanksgiving dinner (yours for $7,995 each), eight different editions sit in neat stacks and offer inspiration tailored to ski chalets, beach getaways, or nurseries for rich babies, depending on the tome. Bathed in golden light from enormous $12,000 chandeliers, the gods of direct-mail marketing beckon enticingly from their “carbonized split bamboo” altars.

The biggest of RH’s 2019 catalogs was 730 glossy pages—from a few feet away, you might think it’s the September issue of Vogue. The company would not reveal how much it spends on the lavish compendiums, but in 2012, an industry expert estimated that they would require a multimillion-dollar budget, with each individual book costing as much as $3 to print and ship—a figure that doesn’t include the tab for photography or page design. RH’s catalogs, and its price points, were similar to Pottery Barn’s and Crate & Barrel’s until the late aughts, when the source books and opulently appointed stores began to be introduced. Both are part of what longtime Chairman and CEO Gary Friedman has described as a strategy to project abundance and turn the heads of wealthy customers; apparently, it’s worked. In 2001, the company was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. While there have been bumps along the way, RH’s sales since then have increased dramatically, and in December its stock price hit an all-time high.

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Do you like to sing along to music? Don't always know the lyrics? Spotify is about to change that.

Spotify is finally giving you the tools to sing along without embarrassing yourself — or mumbling while you pretend you know the lyrics.

The streaming service is in the process of rolling out a new feature that displays the lyrics of a song as it plays, sort of like karaoke but without the drowned out vocals. There’s one catch, though: it appears that so far the functionality is only available to a limited number of users, according to AndroidPolice.


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Midwesterners.................



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The ONT Musical Interlude



On this day: 22 Feb 1989
A category for Heavy Metal was included at the Grammy Awards for the first time. Metallica performed on stage, but the award went to Jethro Tull. Many audience members booed. Meanwhile, Bobby McFerrin won Record Of The Year and Song Of The Year for 'Don't Worry, Be Happy', Tracy Chapman is named Best New Artist and Tina Turner won Best Female Rock Vocal Performance for 'Tina Live in Europe'. via thisdayinmusic.com

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On this day: 22 Feb 2016
American country music singer and songwriter Sonny James, best known for his 1957 hit, 'Young Love' died in Nashville, Tennessee, at the age of 87. Dubbed the Southern Gentleman, James had 72 country and pop chart hits from 1953 to 1983, including 23 No.1 Country hits. via thisdayincountry


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If he thought he was sober I would hate to see him when he's drunk. Our celebrating Genius Award Winner.

FEBRUARY 21--An Arizona man arrested for allegedly stealing a motorcycle from a Kawasaki dealership told police he was “celebrating 4 months of sobriety and decided he wanted” a chopper, according to court records.

Investigators say that Jackson Hanley, 29, was actually intoxicated when he walked into a Mesa dealership earlier this month and “grabbed a Kawasaki motorcycle and began pushing it down the street.”

Hanley, who rode his bicycle to Kelly’s Kawasaki, had his theft bid thwarted when a customer alerted an employee that a crime was in progress. Police were then summoned and Hanley was located about a mile away. “The defendant,” a cop noted, was found “resting on a fence with the bike slightly tipped over but still upright.”


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1 And now for something completely different...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

2 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (JFzNN)

3 Hot blooded

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (HuH1F)

4 Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (tT0V4)

5 ...a man with three buttocks!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

6 Check it and see

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:00 PM (HuH1F)

7 I've got a fever of 103 (point seven.)

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:01 PM (HuH1F)

8 I'll tell you what won't happen.


Bloomberg funding Bernie in a GE.

Posted by: Ha at February 22, 2020 10:01 PM (45Em2)

9 {{{{{Horde}}}}}

So......barky is endorsing fauxhontas?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.....ColoradoMorondevous2020 at February 22, 2020 10:01 PM (/UQ/R)

10
Breathes there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my
OVERNIGHT THREAD YAAAAY
?

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:02 PM (Isn+8)

11 Hiya, I can be packed & ready in half an hour!

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:02 PM (xUVVX)

12 Been listening to a lot of Rush on youtube recently.


I forgot how good a drummer Peart was.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:03 PM (tT0V4)

13 11 Hiya, I can be packed & ready in half an hour!
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:02 PM (xUVVX)


Where we going?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:03 PM (aA3+G)

14 I got yer midwest nice...

Posted by: A lotta nerve at February 22, 2020 10:04 PM (JdcHc)

15 Evening all.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:05 PM (Y4EXg)

16 My daughter-in-law is a Nevada delegate for Bernie.

I am so proud.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:05 PM (xUVVX)

17 Evening Tony

Posted by: wing at February 22, 2020 10:06 PM (JFzNN)

18 The convention is gonna be LIT!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:06 PM (tT0V4)

19 I will fetch the others.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 22, 2020 10:06 PM (Ewo9R)

20 category for Heavy Metal was included at the Grammy Awards for the first time. Metallica performed on stage, but the award went to Jethro Tull.

You suck.

Posted by: Cannibal Corpse at February 22, 2020 10:06 PM (ykYG2)

21 [I was going to sock Slayer, but even Slayer admit that 1989 wasn't their year either]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 22, 2020 10:06 PM (ykYG2)

22 Lmao


Jethro ain't metal.

Posted by: Ha at February 22, 2020 10:07 PM (45Em2)

23 Love that photo/poster up top, Mis Hum. And the tune behind it.

One can dance like an idiot at the MoMes, correct? All is not lost!

Pray for our President and valiant warriors.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:08 PM (WFcrO)

24 ONT Hot 25?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 22, 2020 10:08 PM (7WaWV)

25 Chris Mathews shares his thoughts on tonight.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/359166/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:08 PM (tT0V4)

26 Wow. More comment than you can shake a flamennwerfer at.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:08 PM (XVuno)

27 A pleasant evening to all Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 22, 2020 10:09 PM (TGayj)

28 "One can dance like an idiot at the MoMes, correct? "

Honestly?


It's kinda expected.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:09 PM (tT0V4)

29 Or content.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:09 PM (XVuno)

30 LS......you get the best stuff!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.....ColoradoMorondevous2020 at February 22, 2020 10:10 PM (/UQ/R)

31 Yeah, content.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:10 PM (XVuno)

32 Hopefully that was a joke I missed.

Posted by: Ha at February 22, 2020 10:10 PM (45Em2)

33 A widower and a widow attend their 60th class reunion

That's not funny!

Wait... what's not funny?



My 50th HS reunion coming up this year. Those of us who are left. Kinda hate to think about going. Probably gonna be a bunch old folks. Except Steve. He never ages. A little gray at the temples, at the 40th, but otherwise looked just like he did in HS. (Don't want to see the portrait in the attic!)

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:11 PM (Isn+8)

34 Let that fire burn down a little bit, and then I will go get the marshmallows.


Everyone have their stick?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:11 PM (sy5kK)

35 Nobody played metal flute like Ian Anderson.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:11 PM (XVuno)

36 I'm trying to remember if Fields Of The Nephilim has anything good in 1988. but they're probably not metal.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (ykYG2)

37 Pro tip:

If you curse at an automated call screener long enough and violently enough, it puts you through to a real person that actually can help you with your complex problem!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (BiNEL)

38 funny joke

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (G546f)

39 " Nobody played metal flute like Ian Anderson."

Hey, I can pla.....


Oh, metal flute.


Never mind

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (tT0V4)

40 When I was young, that boat pulling the giant tube and flipping everyone out would have been something I would have done and thought hilarious. Of course, even when I was younger, I would have known to tow out past the breakers at a snail's pace.

Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (MmFTx)

41 37 Pro tip:

If you curse at an automated call screener long enough and violently enough, it puts you through to a real person that actually can help you with your complex problem!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (BiNEL)


I learned something new.
I get to go home now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

42 That was a funny joke, MisHum.
I can relate. I am always thinking about the hereafter. Every time I walk into a room, I think, "What am I here after?"

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (xUVVX)

43 My new favorite phrase is "We got pheasant for days".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

44 I'm visiting the Bay Area right now. I'm staying on the south side, but took a drive up to visit the USS Hornet Museum today. Gorgeous ship. Big, but it still felt a bit cramped with the narrow halls and "stairs", which were more like ladders with thin hand-rails.
On another note, I'm pleased to report that I never had to ask for a straw. ^_^

Posted by: junior at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (eo+0+)

45 7 I've got a fever of 103 (point seven.)
Posted by: Charles the Simple

that's not good

you take an anti pyretic for it?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (G546f)

46 Hello, Horde!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (X7cnY)

47 16 My daughter-in-law is a Nevada delegate for Bernie.

I am so proud.
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:05 PM (xUVVX)


As proud as Spielberg when his daughter told the world last week that she is doing pron?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (sy5kK)

48 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (LaaND)

49 As said many times before


Election 2020:

[ ] Socialism

[ ] Not Socialism


Pick only one.

(we need tee shirts)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (tT0V4)

50 Love that Midwestern Nice. What a scream!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (WFcrO)

51 A DAILY tipple nearly doubles a man’s hope of hitting 90, a study says.

They've managed to prove once again sick people, who are less likely to make it to 90, don't drink very much.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (wGeit)

52 Spotify is finally giving you the tools to sing along without embarrassing yourself -- or mumbling while you pretend you know the lyrics.

--------

Shazam already scrolls lyrics as you listen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (XVuno)

53 7 I've got a fever of 103 (point seven.)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:01 PM (HuH1F)


Did you go to either China, or a Foreigner concert recently?


And, did you get a t-shirt?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:15 PM (sy5kK)

54 37 Pro tip:
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (BiNEL)

Or, you could patiently say "Customer Service Representative" at each prompt.

Keeps your blood pressure down to a manageable level.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:15 PM (xUVVX)

55 Politician: "Don't tell my mom what I do. She thinks I play the piano in a whorehouse."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (Ewo9R)

56 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

Always glad to help, boss!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (BiNEL)

57 Top 60? Hey, y'all!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque. Deplorable. Bitter. Clinging. MAGAbilly. Trump 2020! Because FUCK YOU again at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (KXHve)

58 Run away with who, exactly? And where?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (NWiLs)

59 "As proud as Spielberg when his daughter told the world last week that she is doing pron? "

She's only doing Solo Sex.

Lot's of folk do that.
Even without a camera watching.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (tT0V4)

60 I've got a fever of 103
Posted by: Charles the Simple 


Hot blooded?

Posted by: Foreigner at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (45Em2)

61 As proud as Spielberg when his daughter told the world last week that she is doing pron?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:14 PM (sy5kK)

I think Spielberg has more to crow about. He might get more than one grandchild out of the deal.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (xUVVX)

62 My 50th HS reunion coming up this year. Those of us who are left. Kinda hate to think about going. Probably gonna be a bunch old folks. Except Steve. He never ages. A little gray at the temples, at the 40th, but otherwise looked just like he did in HS. (Don't want to see the portrait in the attic!)
Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:11 PM (Isn+


Facebook has taken much of the fun out of reunions. I know how everyone has aged from high school. I know what they do (or did) for a living, whether or not they had children...

The reunion seems kind of pointless.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (wGeit)

63 28 "One can dance like an idiot at the MoMes, correct? "

Honestly?


It's kinda expected.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:09 PM (tT0V4)


Until you do, they won't let you leave.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (sy5kK)

64 Every time I walk into a room, I think, "What am I here after?"


Walking out of the room and walking back in is the IT unplug/plug back in for your brain.

Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (MmFTx)

65 I've got a fever of 103
Posted by: Charles the Simple


-------

Do you do more than dance?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (XVuno)

66 > My new favorite phrase is "We got pheasant for days".

Ah, but can you say "Pheasant pluckers pluck pheasants" five times, really fast?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (Ewo9R)

67 63 28 "One can dance like an idiot at the MoMes, correct? "

Honestly?


It's kinda expected.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:09 PM (tT0V4)


Until you do, they won't let you leave.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:17 PM (sy5kK)


Watch out Virginia.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

68 Keeps your blood pressure down to a manageable level.
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:15 PM (xUVVX)

My way is far more cathartic!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (BiNEL)

69 Hey wing, Teresa.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (Y4EXg)

70 foreigner blows the chunks all other bands already blew.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

71 {{{{WDS!!!!}}}}

How you doing, girl? Thanks for the compliment. I'm darn lucky to come across neat stuff. And I like to share!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (WFcrO)

72 Watch out Virginia.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (aA3+G)


Who's Virginia?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (t+qrx)

73 Dude probably isn't lying.

You can use a cheap breathalyzer to check whether or not you are in ketosis.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (MMC4G)

74 The Safety Dance is still my favorite silly group dance. It was a hit when I was a freshman in college and I have never outgrown it.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (oW/8k)

75 So it turns out that Chris Mathews is really a Never-Bernier.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:19 PM (tT0V4)

76 Vtmom- Is that medicalese for Elijah Craig? If so, the answer's yes.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:19 PM (HuH1F)

77 75 So it turns out that Chris Mathews is really a Never-Bernier.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:19 PM (tT0V4)

-------

In France, a Nev-air Bear-nyay

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:19 PM (XVuno)

78 So it turns out that Chris Mathews is really a Never-Bernier.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:19 PM (tT0V4)

The thrill up his leg is gone.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:20 PM (xUVVX)

79 54 37 Pro tip:
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:12 PM (BiNEL)

Or, you could patiently say "Customer Service Representative" at each prompt.

Keeps your blood pressure down to a manageable level.
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:15 PM (xUVVX)


Used to be some kind of web startup that would call the company you want to reach for you, and then navigate the phone tree until they reached a human, at which point they would call you. I have no idea if they're still around.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:20 PM (wGeit)

80 Ok horde, for ONE DAY ONLY! I will be a dim for the Washington primary. Really want to stick them with Bernie, but open to suggestions.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:20 PM (2ygtH)

81 I've somehow become the angel of death for my HS class. Classmates let me know of fellow passings and I have a monster email list I push the announcement out.

We've had three deaths in the last month.

We have grown old.

Is there some statistical evidence that if you make it to your late 60s there is a dropoff in death rate until late 70s/early 80s?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (Y4EXg)

82 70 foreigner blows the chunks all other bands already blew.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

^^^^THIS^^^^

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

83 76 Vtmom- Is that medicalese for Elijah Craig? If so, the answer's yes.
Posted by: Charles the Simple

No, bourbon would be an antiseptic

I meant an aspirin or similar
is it the flu?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (G546f)

84 Run away with who, exactly? And where?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (NWiLs)
* * * *

Does it matter? Okay, okay.... just imagine the best possible possibility. How's that?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (WFcrO)

85 Some rat in the swamp

Biden.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (u82oZ)

86 ...we take pains that no one will ever, ever see our hips unite with a beat.

Um, well, no, you see that hips not uniting with a beat thing is not overcome because I get up and gyrate.

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:22 PM (Isn+8)

87 72 Watch out Virginia.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

Who's Virginia?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (t+qrx)


a young-to-middle aged Elizabeth Taylor.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:22 PM (sy5kK)

88
A DAILY tipple...

Somehow I read that as doing doubles every day triples the chance of a man hitting 90. I'm thinking does this apply to drinking or golf?
Or both!?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 22, 2020 10:22 PM (TGayj)

89 Is there some statistical evidence that if you make it to your late 60s there is a dropoff in death rate until late 70s/early 80s?
Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (Y4EXg)


I have heard once you reach your 80s there's a 50/50 chance you won't make it to your next birthday. So roughly one in a thousand will make it to ninety.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:22 PM (wGeit)

90 Left coast dawg= "I went to Wuhan and all I got is this lousy coronavirus."

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (HuH1F)

91
Folks being towed hitting wave - could watch that over and over. Just perfect.

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (Isn+8)

92 I am a male Person of Pallor.


I dance like a male Person of Pallor.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (tT0V4)

93 I'm not afraid of looking like an idiot in public - I know I will

I'm afraid of everyone else judging me for looking like an idiot

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (G546f)

94 thanks, mishum.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (KP5rU)

95 How much money will Bloomberg spend until he gives up?

I'm sure tired of his non-stop commercials.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (xUVVX)

96 84 Run away with who, exactly? And where?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:16 PM (NWiLs)
* * * *

Does it matter? Okay, okay.... just imagine the best possible possibility. How's that?
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:21 PM (WFcrO)

Oh it definitely matters.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (NWiLs)

97 Does the telephone etiquette carry over to texts? My friend sent me pictures of a politician who looks similar to Nancy Pelosi, so i asked her why she texted me photos of that horrid woman.

Turns out it was Nita Lowey, a dem from New York who was politicking in Laredo, Tx. Why the hell is she in Laredo? Why is she pressing flesh and kissing babies there? And why did my dumbass friend grab her for a picture?

I'm genuinely dumbfounded.

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (mFoNl)

98 I read that as a daily Throuple.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (tT0V4)

99 The reunion seems kind of pointless.
Posted by: Ace's liver

---

Oh, not at all! Don't you just love being in a small group watching your classmates, with their spouses at their sides, nervously wondering if the gal standing next to them is gonna accidentally rat them out concerning some sketchy behavior back in the early 70s?

I live for that!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (Y4EXg)

100 Dance like an idiot at MoMe's? Hot damm. Do not bring the good booze as I will scarf it before commencing to get down.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (tAuzy)

101 I think I'll celebrate my sobriety by heading over to the Subaru dealership. *hic*

Posted by: Wine Mom at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (EgshT)

102 If the enemy nominee is Bloomberg, I hope Trump says (at one point) "Don't get short with me."

It's funny because I've been drinking too much.

Love you all, seriously, but not dangerously. Still very serious.

See you tomorrow, maybe.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (l9m7l)

103 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:25 PM (TdMsT)

104 As soon as the MSM realizes that Sanders' nomination is inevitable, they will stop pouring sewage on his head, & pronounce him the greatest statesman, & savior of the nation, since Abraham Lincoln.

Just watch. He's about to get an MSM 180-degree makeover.

Posted by: mnw at February 22, 2020 10:25 PM (Cssks)

105 And vmom- yes I took aspiring and I'm currently down to 102.4. Lauren the Gentle had this last night, whatever it is, and she's pretty good today. I hope I am tomorrow.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:25 PM (HuH1F)

106 Oh, not at all! Don't you just love being in a small group watching your classmates, with their spouses at their sides, nervously wondering if the gal standing next to them is gonna accidentally rat them out concerning some sketchy behavior back in the early 70s?

I live for that!
Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (Y4EXg)

Haven't been to a single class reunion.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:25 PM (NWiLs)

107 90 Left coast dawg= "I went to Wuhan and all I got is this lousy coronavirus."
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (HuH1F)


CtS, that makes you a trend setter!

One step away from an authentic internet Influencer!

Can you smell the big bucks around the corner?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (sy5kK)

108 80 Ok horde, for ONE DAY ONLY! I will be a dim for the Washington primary. Really want to stick them with Bernie, but open to suggestions.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:20 PM (2ygtH)

Mail ballot last day. If Bernie is close or over to clinching a majority, vote next closest. If he's not, vote Bernie.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (1CjJc)

109 I would really love to go to a MoMe. But I have a crippling fear of crowds.

So, if someone wants to have a MoMe in a fallout shelter, I am in.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (l9m7l)

110 Hi Ladyl!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (NWiLs)

111 Howdy all. I'm excited as I have two days off in a row, seldom happens. Hope AOP has a safe drive home.
And hey there WDS hope all is going well for your Colorado Mo mee. Can't make it this year but maybe when I retire.
Has anyone heard from slap lately? I emailed him yesterday but no response.

Posted by: Farmer at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (y5qNj)

112 Ladyl!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (Y4EXg)

113 Hi LadyL, Hi Insom.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (l9m7l)

114 12 Been listening to a lot of Rush on youtube recently.


I forgot how good a drummer Peart was.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



I've been going over my Rush collection and listening them. Alex Lifeson has always been underrated as a guitarist. "Time Stand Still" is a beautiful song.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (O62M1)

115 95 How much money will Bloomberg spend until he gives up?

I'm sure tired of his non-stop commercials.
Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (xUVVX)


I think the idea is he wins if he can keep someone else from running away with it and get to a brokered convention. Money talks in those back rooms.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (wGeit)

116 Turns out it was Nita Lowey, a dem from New York who was politicking in Laredo, Tx. Why the hell is she in Laredo? Why is she pressing flesh and kissing babies there? And why did my dumbass friend grab her for a picture?

I'm genuinely dumbfounded.
Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (mFoNl)
* * * *

Great questions. Why the holy hell would anyone go to Laredo? Been there, did that. Somehow survived.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (WFcrO)

117 NaCly Dog

Also a good choice, I just think the old commie and his tarded followers would be comedy gold.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (2ygtH)

118 Haven't been to a single class reunion.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:25 PM (NWiLs)

Me either, the people I wanted to keep in contact with, I have, the rest I don't care.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (Rz2Nc)

119 106: me either insom, why should i pay money to fucking stand around with assholes i never had anything to do with? makes no sense.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (KP5rU)

120 So, if someone wants to have a MoMe in a fallout shelter, I am in.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:26 PM (l9m7l)


Anywhere you happen to be is a fallout shelter, if you carry around one of those Civil Defense signs. That's my philosophy. Says so right there on the sign.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (t+qrx)

121
Turns out it was Nita Lowey, a dem from New York who was politicking in Laredo, Tx. Why the hell is she in Laredo? Why is she pressing flesh and kissing babies there?

Posted by: Moki

=======

I can't speak for your dumbass friend, but that's mildly interesting. Nita Lowey is the Rep that Chelsea Clinton would hypothetically replace.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (G51Gf)

122 How much money will Bloomberg spend until he gives up?



I'm sure tired of his non-stop commercials.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:23 PM (xUVVX)


I have not yet begun to Jeb!

Posted by: Lil' Mikey at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (2N7oZ)

123 100 Dance like an idiot at MoMe's? Hot damm. Do not bring the good booze as I will scarf it before commencing to get down.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (tAuzy)



Whadda mean, Valu-Rite isn't top shelf liquor?

Posted by: every Moron at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (sy5kK)

124 " I would really love to go to a MoMe. But I have a crippling fear of crowds.

So, if someone wants to have a MoMe in a fallout shelter, I am in."

It's not a crowd

And it's not some sort of political rally.

It's an evening with friends.

And the room has corners.

With chairs.

And potted ferns to hide behind.

No need for fear.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:29 PM (tT0V4)

125 Hi TonyPete!

Insom!

Beckoning Chasm!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:29 PM (TdMsT)

126 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/vu8lawa

https://tinyurl.com/ruo5mgz

https://tinyurl.com/v4rz84z

https://tinyurl.com/rwpc7bs

https://tinyurl.com/wg8hlmq

https://tinyurl.com/rxzjyve

Posted by: kbdabear at February 22, 2020 10:29 PM (qAR6u)

127 119 106: me either insom, why should i pay money to fucking stand around with assholes i never had anything to do with? makes no sense.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (KP5rU)


My 30th took place in the gym. For that they charged $150. Eh... no.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (wGeit)

128 When it comes to booze there are no standards after the 3rd glass.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (tAuzy)

129 Docking the cruise liner: bow thrusters.

Posted by: CMU VET at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (SqnIg)

130 I would really love to go to a MoMe. But I have a crippling fear of crowds.

Come to the Texas one in Oct., you'll have 600 acres to accommodate your fears
until you realize that Morons don't bite or judge.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (S/rwf)

131
I can't speak for your dumbass friend, but that's mildly interesting. Nita Lowey is the Rep that Chelsea Clinton would hypothetically replace.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


That is interesting. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (mFoNl)

132 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:27 PM (l9m7l)

Hey BC!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:31 PM (NWiLs)

133 feel better, Charles the Simple

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:31 PM (G546f)

134 Dance like an idiot at MoMe's? Hot damm. Do not bring the good booze as I will scarf it before commencing to get down.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (tAuzy)


NZ Frank can teach male Morons how to do the haka (Maori war dance). Here's a video of ANZAC soldiers, sailors, and airmen performing the haka at the Last Post ceremony at the Menin Gate in Ypres:

https://tinyurl.com/r9vkzod

It would be one way to put the fear of God in Blackface Northam.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 22, 2020 10:31 PM (pPNCa)

135 Hi LadyL!

VIA - it's not really crowds. It's not really friends. It's not about levels of comfort.

It's me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:31 PM (l9m7l)

136
So it turns out that Chris Mathews is really a Never-Bernier.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

=======

Bigly. And Matt Taibbi is a Never-Chrisser.

There really isn't enough popcorn for this hot Establishment-on-Socialist action on the Dem side.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (G51Gf)

137 The reunion seems kind of pointless.
Posted by: Ace's liver


Well, I don't do social media, and I don't have any contact with folks between reunions, so it's always a surprise for me. (Have to cross back over an otherwise heavily burnt bridge just to do that, but I do.)

Plus, there's good booze. My classmates have had that right. At least, there was in the past. Maybe this year it will all be Boost and Geritol and Metamucil. (Searches for hip flask, just to be on the safe side.)

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (Isn+8)

138 119 106: me either insom, why should i pay money to fucking stand around with assholes i never had anything to do with? makes no sense.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (KP5rU)

Right? I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the people from my high school I'd have any interest in finding out about. The rest, meh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (NWiLs)

139 135 Hi LadyL!

VIA - it's not really crowds. It's not really friends. It's not about levels of comfort.

It's me.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

---

BC, just imagine us all with no pants on.


Wait a minute, bad example.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (Y4EXg)

140 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (XzT/D)

141 " It's not about levels of comfort.

It's me. "

If there is anything we can do to help, let us know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (tT0V4)

142 Hey Insomniac! How about one of those awkward male hugs!

--Hug--

Then we step back and talk about man things! Like, um those sports things!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (l9m7l)

143 feel better, Charles the Simple
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:31 PM (G546f)
* * * *

Ditto!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (WFcrO)

144 Will there be music at the NoVamome?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (QzF6i)

145 No need for fear.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:29 PM (tT0V4)


VIA--you have no idea how kind the folks are at the Momes. And if you have an anxiety issue, someone will stay by your side to make sure you are doing okay and having a nice time.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (TdMsT)

146 Phillip Haney didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (oVJmc)

147 Hey Insomniac! How about one of those awkward male hugs!

--Hug--

Then we step back and talk about man things! Like, um those sports things!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (l9m7l)

----------

Take it outside, boys.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (XVuno)

148 Anyone who is lucky enough to go to the MoMe in Tx, please get on Insom's dance card. He's lovely to dance with.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (PkVlr)

149
I can't speak for your dumbass friend, but that's mildly interesting. Nita Lowey is the Rep that Chelsea Clinton would hypothetically replace.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (G51Gf)

sitting far away from New York, I thought that Chelsea was just going to be ordained one of the two Dem Senators, Gillibrand or Schumer, when one retired.

Chelsea has to be given an intermediate position as House member first?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (sy5kK)

150 People don't run away unless they got some place to go.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (xUVVX)

151 Anyone who is lucky enough to go to the MoMe in Tx, please get on Insom's dance card. He's lovely to dance with.
Posted by: nurse ratched

---

Alright, I'm game but who leads?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (Y4EXg)

152 Anyone who is lucky enough to go to the MoMe in Tx, please get on Insom's dance card. He's lovely to dance with.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (PkVlr)

-------

I'll wear my steel-toed boots.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (XVuno)

153 144 Will there be music at the NoVamome?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) a

We can ask bluebell and weasel to sing, but remember he shoots and she shivs.

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (mFoNl)

154 142 Hey Insomniac! How about one of those awkward male hugs!

--Hug--

Then we step back and talk about man things! Like, um those sports things!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (l9m7l)

Uh, yeah, so how 'bout that, uh, sportsball team?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (NWiLs)

155 Docking the cruise liner: bow thrusters.

Meh. I just order French and Goldberg to man the oars. Ahoy!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (EgshT)

156 Keeping people's ages in perspective is tricky.
One of my mom's docs in her last illness was a guy I hadn't seen since Jr. High.
Couldn't shake the visual of her being cared for by a 14 yr.old in chinos and a Madras shirt.

Then, I realized if I was old enough to be a grandmother, he was old enough to be a pulmonologist.

Posted by: Sal at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (bo8pf)

157
I read that as a daily Throuple.





Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:24 PM (tT0V4)


Daily? Even Secretariat got time off.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (5v5Zx)

158 It's only a hug. Dont judge, besides it only gay if you push back.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (tAuzy)

159 Walking out of the room and walking back in is the IT unplug/plug back in for your brain.
Posted by: no good deed


In that vein (graphic c/o PoliNation blog):
https://polination.files.wordpress.com/
2020/02/2020-reboot.jpg

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (Isn+8)

160 We can ask bluebell and weasel to sing, but remember he shoots and she shivs.
++++++I don't think you can dance to that.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (QzF6i)

161 138 119 106: me either insom, why should i pay money to fucking stand around with assholes i never had anything to do with? makes no sense.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:28 PM (KP5rU)

Right? I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the people from my high school I'd have any interest in finding out about. The rest, meh.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (NWiLs)


I went to my 10th high as a kite that was fun
Told a bunch of people to KMA

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (aA3+G)

162 @141 - thank you, VIA, it's hard to explain. Especially after some beers. And--

Sorry, too many beers, maybe at some point, I can try to explain--

But yea, lots of beers, too many infact.

Again, thank you.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (l9m7l)

163 Insom--can I have dance number 26?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (TdMsT)

164 I think you might have to do a B.A. Baracus to get BC to a MoMe.

Somebody just jam a needle of sedative in him and let him wake up 6 hours later at the MoMe.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (MMC4G)

165 Plus, there's good booze. My classmates have had that right. At least, there was in the past. Maybe this year it will all be Boost and Geritol and Metamucil. (Searches for hip flask, just to be on the safe side.)
Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (Isn+


I can just picture myself standing against the wall, eating to much food, not asking anyone to dance, and thinking "I've grown old without growing up."

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (wGeit)

166 LS....doing fine, thank you for asking and thank you for sharing. Hope you are well

Farmer.....Harry Reid

Hope all is going well for you! Last time I talked to Slap was three weeks ago

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.....ColoradoMorondevous2020 at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (/UQ/R)

167
sitting far away from New York, I thought that Chelsea was just going to be ordained one of the two Dem Senators, Gillibrand or Schumer, when one retired.

Chelsea has to be given an intermediate position as House member first?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

=======

It probably depends on which seat is vacated first, or who starts looking vulnerable.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (G51Gf)

168 128 When it comes to booze there are no standards after the 3rd glass.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:30 PM (tAuzy)


But MoMe's start on the 4th glass.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (sy5kK)

169 Walking out of the room and walking back in is the IT unplug/plug back in for your brain.
Posted by: no good deed

In that vein (graphic c/o PoliNation blog):
https://polination.files.wordpress.com/
2020/02/2020-reboot.jpg
Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (Isn+
* * * *

LOL

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (WFcrO)

170 When you go to high school reunions, do you check out who looks older than you?

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (xUVVX)

171 Hey everybody!

I was out playing poker last night. I think Mike Bloomberg was seated at my no-limit hold'em table.

Why do I think that? Because this short guy, no matter what hand he got or what position he was in, would always do the same thing: grab his chips and say "I raise 1 meeeeelion dollars!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (L2ZTs)

172 148 Anyone who is lucky enough to go to the MoMe in Tx, please get on Insom's dance card. He's lovely to dance with.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:34 PM (PkVlr)

Ain't I, though?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (NWiLs)

173 " but remember he shoots and she shivs."

The only time I really remembered music was during the trampoline jump.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (tT0V4)

174 Nicole Wallace, LOLGFY

Posted by: JoeF. at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (o1fzk)

175 Chelsea has to be given an intermediate position as House member first?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

=======

It probably depends on which seat is vacated first, or who starts looking vulnerable.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (G51Gf)


Hellooooooo.

Posted by: AOC at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (wGeit)

176 Winnowed:

Into the Spiderverse was much more clever and fun than I expected from an extra-nerdy animated movie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (LxTcq)

177 170
When you go to high school reunions, do you check out who looks older than you?

====Absolutely!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (QzF6i)

178 Chelsea has to be given an intermediate position as House member first?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

=======

It probably depends on which seat is vacated first, or who starts looking vulnerable.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 22, 2020 10:38 PM (G51Gf)


so, Chuck Schumer's seat, then.

Chuck has been crying and has a sad look in his face for a while now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (sy5kK)

179 163 Insom--can I have dance number 26?
Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (TdMsT)

Looks like I'm gonna need a bigger dance card. More like a scroll...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (NWiLs)

180 163
Insom--can I have dance number 26?

Posted by: Ladyl

Just don't let them work up a number 6 dance on ya.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (2ygtH)

181 MisHum, thanks for the ONT.

You've played hold'em poker right? Do you have any nice casinos up in your area of Wisconsin?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (L2ZTs)

182 We can ask bluebell and weasel to sing, but remember he shoots and she shivs.
Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:35 PM (mFoNl)
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If I start to sing everyone will want to shiv me.

Posted by: bluebell at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (/669Q)

183 A MoMe is just the blog in real person to person time.

it is the best group of people you will ever meet.

NZFrank, I'll be expecting a dance!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (EvnpL)

184 183 A MoMe is just the blog in real person to person time.

it is the best group of people you will ever meet.

NZFrank, I'll be expecting a dance!
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (EvnpL)


Ben Had!!!

Dahlin!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

185 so, Chuck Schumer's seat, then.

Chuck has been crying and has a sad look in his face for a while now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:39 PM (sy5kK)

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I'm worried. These are often signs of an impending suicide.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (XVuno)

186 "Dance like there's no one watching.
Because they aren't.
They're looking at their cells."
-frequently cited wisdom at BluebirdOfBitterness.com

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (Isn+8)

187 183 A MoMe is just the blog in real person to person time.

it is the best group of people you will ever meet.

NZFrank, I'll be expecting a dance!
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (EvnpL)

Everyone has a lot of pun.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (1CjJc)

188
The only time I really remembered music was during the trampoline jump.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Lol! I missed the trampoline, Mr. Moki has paid enough medical bills this year.

How is the move going?

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (mFoNl)

189 Right? I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the people from my high school I'd have any interest in finding out about. The rest, meh.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:32 PM (NWiLs)

I went to my 10th high as a kite that was fun
Told a bunch of people to KMA
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

I may go next year just so I can laugh at anyone who appears to take themselves seriously. Haven't made one yet so we will see.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (WFcrO)

190 170
When you go to high school reunions, do you check out who looks older than you?

Posted by: ALH



I find I'm checking out the underside of the table I WAS sitting at.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (2ygtH)

191 Arkancide will get Chelsea her seat. They've got it down to a science.

Posted by: ALH at February 22, 2020 10:41 PM (xUVVX)

192 3rd,4th 28th, no one should care. I am a fan of the Bacchus school of thought that booze can bring you closer to the Big Guy. Or the hot chick you would not normally talk to. Tomato, tomato.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:42 PM (tAuzy)

193 If I start to sing everyone will want to shiv me.
Posted by: bluebell at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (/669Q)

Don't know "everyone will want to shiv me." Can you hum a few bars?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:42 PM (NWiLs)

194 Dance like there's no one watching.

Amy Klobuchar tried that once.
Tragically, nine people went blind that evening.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 22, 2020 10:42 PM (L2ZTs)

195
If I start to sing everyone will want to shiv me.
Posted by: bluebell


Hey gorgeous!!!! How are you???

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (mFoNl)

196 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (XzT/D)


Let me know when ZOD PROLETARIAT gets here...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (7s3Gx)

197 I can just picture myself standing against the wall, eating to much food, not asking anyone to dance, and thinking "I've grown old without growing up."
Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (wGeit)


One of my favorite lines, from a journeyman MLB reliever, was "You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever!"

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (sy5kK)

198 Ben ,sure can we wrassle to see who leads?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (tAuzy)

199 196 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:33 PM (XzT/D)

Let me know when ZOD PROLETARIAT gets here...
Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (7s3Gx)

Soon he must face his mortal enemy: ZOD METRIC

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (NWiLs)

200 Happy Saturday, Horde! Teresa in Ft. Worth, how is your Mom doing? I am way too self-conscious to dance much, I need to be quite inebriated to make a fool of myself. Late at night, when hubby has retired, I'll crank up the tunes and "dancersize".

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (a4EWo)

201 Just watched the concluding episode of "Better Call Saul" and hope Vince Gilligan will do something all new, but in ABQ, and somehow connected.

What a writer. What a visionary storyteller.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (+fPHo)

202 NZFrank, I'll be expecting a dance!
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (EvnpL)


Oh, I can't wait to see this.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (t+qrx)

203 I dunno if Italy will even be accepting tourists in 2 weeks when our trip is supposed to happen

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (G546f)

204 I'm afraid of everyone else judging me for looking like an idiot.


I have no room to judge I am about 75% idiot on a good day.

Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (MmFTx)

205 158 It's only a hug. Dont judge, besides it only gay if you push back.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:36 PM (tAuzy)

Or get a boner.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (NWiLs)

206 ZOD CPAP.

Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (XzT/D)

207 "How is the move going? "

Just killing time till closing.

We leave for South Carolina in about a week.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (tT0V4)

208 Hey gorgeous!!!! How are you???
Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (mFoNl)
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Hello dear girl! I'm doing fine, looking definitely ungorgeous in my fluffy bathrobe and bedroom slippers. About to go to bed.

Posted by: bluebell at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (/669Q)

209 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 22, 2020 10:40 PM (L2ZTs)

I've never set foot in a casino. So I have no idea what games they play

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

210 Ladyl, I'm asking you to take very special care of Nurse Ratched at the MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (EvnpL)

211 200 Happy Saturday, Horde! Teresa in Ft. Worth, how is your Mom doing? I am way too self-conscious to dance much, I need to be quite inebriated to make a fool of myself. Late at night, when hubby has retired, I'll crank up the tunes and "dancersize".
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (a4EWo)

You go full spandex and leg warmers?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (NWiLs)

212 74
The Safety Dance is still my favorite silly group dance. It was a hit
when I was a freshman in college and I have never outgrown it.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 22, 2020 10:18 PM (oW/8k)


https://tinyurl.com/y5gatbhy

Posted by: Goldberry at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (l3+k2)

213 "I have no room to judge I am about 75% idiot on a good day."

Welcome to the club.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (tT0V4)

214 VIA, we will pray your journey is safe!!!

bluebell, I'm sure you rock fluffy slippers!! sweet dreams!!!

Posted by: Moki at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (mFoNl)

215 >>201 Just watched the concluding episode of "Better Call Saul"

Just started watching this.

Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (XzT/D)

216 So I have no idea what games they play

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

The rules are simple. You give them your money, and they pretend to like you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (dLLD6)

217 210 Ladyl, I'm asking you to take very special care of Nurse Ratched at the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:45 PM (EvnpL)


I absolutely will.

I promise!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (TdMsT)

218 OMG OMG OMG

I'm texting Marine Ratched! He's been incommunicado for the last two weeks.

He sounds good. Thank you for your support, morons.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (PkVlr)

219 Tenacious socks are...um...impressive.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (dLLD6)

220 The rules are simple. You give them your money, and they pretend to like you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (dLLD6)

So like a fraternity?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (NWiLs)

221 You all are seriously wonderful, and I love you all. I'm signing off now, seriously, because otherwise, I, um, would be like way drunk and all, and--

Sorry, not sure where the downside is (see the bit about being drunk). You folks are the best. You are all wonderful, wonderful folks, and if someone says "NO" just punch them in the gut and blame it on me.

As mentioned, I'd love to go to a MoMe. You folks are the best people I've ever met. And you could tell your great-grand-children--"The most boring person I ever met? There's no contest..." Because it would be me!

As mentioned, love you all, and see you tomorrow.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (l9m7l)

222 "The rules are simple. You give them your money, and they pretend to like you."

Are we back to discussing dating, again.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (tT0V4)

223 CHAVEZ. i have no idea.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (KP5rU)

224 CBD, ding ding ding

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (L2ZTs)

225 hogmartin, don't think I don't remember that you are an excellent dancer.

Do you want to tell NZFank or should we leave that to Weasel?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (EvnpL)

226 Is the TXMoMe in October? If it's not full already, I am putting in that trip as my requested birthday present from my family.

Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (MmFTx)

227 Hi Bluebell, my dear!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (TdMsT)

228 197 I can just picture myself standing against the wall, eating to much food, not asking anyone to dance, and thinking "I've grown old without growing up."
Posted by: Ace's liver at February 22, 2020 10:37 PM (wGeit)


One of my favorite lines, from a journeyman MLB reliever, was "You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever!"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 22, 2020 10:43 PM (sy5kK)

Ha, I told my wife that same thing earlier today

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (aA3+G)

229 The rules are simple. You give them your money, and they pretend to like you.


Posted by: Walter Mondale



Yep, easier to just walk in say, "Here's two hundred bucks, comp my drinks and laugh at my jokes."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (2ygtH)

230 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (PkVlr)

You do know a shout out from the Horde is de rigeur!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (BiNEL)

231 204 I'm afraid of everyone else judging me for looking like an idiot.


I have no room to judge I am about 75% idiot on a good day.
Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:44 PM (MmFTx)


Feerless Leader! What is Your Command?

Posted by: Morons at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (sy5kK)

232 BeckoningChasm: I would really love to go to a MoMe. But I have a crippling fear of crowds.
So, if someone wants to have a MoMe in a fallout shelter, I am in.


Not a fan of crowds m'self. But fallout shelter would make me claustrophobic. I can see how it would limit the crowd size, though.

How about a little room off to the side of the MoMe, where the socially reticent -Chasm, me, and hasn't MP4 said something of the same? -can huddle off to the side, reading AoS on our cells and ignoring everyone, together.

Posted by: mindful webworker
click me and win
at February 22, 2020 10:49 PM (Isn+8)

233 I look forward to cutting loose and being immature for a change.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:49 PM (NWiLs)

234 ZOD CPAP.

Euuuwww. Make sure you clean your equipment.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 22, 2020 10:49 PM (7s3Gx)

235 204 I'm afraid of everyone else judging me for looking like an idiot.


I have no such fear.

It's already well established that I'm an idiot, so I can only improve my standing or, if I drink enough, just confirm what everyone already knew.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 22, 2020 10:50 PM (MMC4G)

236 I'm texting Marine Ratched! He's been incommunicado for the last two weeks.

He sounds good. Thank you for your support, morons.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2020 10:47 PM (PkVlr)

Send him a picture of some crayons.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:50 PM (NWiLs)

237 hogmartin, don't think I don't remember that you are an excellent dancer.

Do you want to tell NZFank or should we leave that to Weasel?
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (EvnpL)
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Hmmmmm. Fasssssscinating. We shall have to have music at this MoMe.

Posted by: bluebell at February 22, 2020 10:50 PM (/669Q)

238 201 Just watched the concluding episode of "Better Call Saul"

Just started watching this.
Posted by: Zod at February 22, 2020 10:46 PM (XzT/D)

--------

Lenny from LaVerne and Shirley has a major role where you're unlikely to recognize him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (XVuno)

239 My son got married on a beach in Mexico. They set up a glass dance floor over the sand and had taped music that my daughter in law put together over speakers. Everyone just got up and danced away. Old people, young people, kids(until bedtime) just rocking to the beat. It is by far the most fun I have ever had at a party. Of course, several glasses of wine added to the experience.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (QzF6i)

240 Alright folk.....



G'night, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (tT0V4)

241 3rd,4th 28th, no one should care. I am a fan of the
Bacchus school of thought that booze can bring you closer to the Big
Guy. Or the hot chick you would not normally talk to. Tomato, tomato.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:42 PM (tAuzy)


Mr Magoo?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (5v5Zx)

242 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2020 10:48 PM (aA3+G)

My version, and sadly I cannot source it is
"You have to grow old...

But you don't have to grow up!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (BiNEL)

243
I can't dance. I can't talk. Only thing about me is the way I walk.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (rCwaK)

244 Feerless Leader! What is Your Command?


That's too much pressure. Um, whatever I do, do the opposite or be fruitful and multiply. Whichever of those suit you the best.

Posted by: no good deed at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (MmFTx)

245 243
I can't dance. I can't talk. Only thing about me is the way I walk.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (rCwaK)

With a limp?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 22, 2020 10:52 PM (NWiLs)

246 Hmmmm. I am starting to get a little bell begin to ring in my dense noggin. Don't tell me Iike surprises.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 22, 2020 10:52 PM (tAuzy)

247 243
I can't dance. I can't talk. Only thing about me is the way I walk.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (rCwaK)


Oh my gosh--you have the sexiest Southern accent I've ever heard!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (TdMsT)

248 I can't dance. I can't talk. Only thing about me is the way I walk.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 22, 2020 10:51 PM (rCwaK)


Saturday Night Fever?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (5v5Zx)

249 bluebell, you better start scoping out places for the after party.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (EvnpL)

250 We leave for South Carolina in about a week.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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Where in SC?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (xSo9G)

251 372
WTF?
That's the 4th Amy Klobuchar ad I've seen in the last couple of days --- all during basketball games, I think.

In SW VA?
Odd.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (M/9m0)

252 Personally, I didn't like the last episode of season 4 of bcs. Kim realizing Saul is a sociopath as he walks away celebrating his scamming of the appeals board is b.s. That's not the Jimmy we know. Not the one who cared for his domineering, mentally ill, backstabbing brother, or even the one who chased down the young girl rejected by the scholarship committee. He's a grifter, but not a sociopath. Remember how he threw himself under the bus for the old ladies? That's Jimmy.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 22, 2020 10:53 PM (87EdW)

253 Sharon, that reminds me:

For anyone who likes to buy avocados, please always check the tag on 'em from now on. If they're from Mexico, DON'T BUY THEM.

The drug cartels have muscled and murdered their way into the avocado biz in Mexico, big time.