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Of Course: Miley Cyrus' Public Circle-Twerk Was Also Super-Racist You Guys


And then there is this bitter racialist.

1) Macklemore won best hip hop music video for his popular single ‘Can’t Hold Us’ over Kendrick Lamar, A$AP Rocky among others. He also won best song with a social message for ‘Same Love’, a ballad in support of same-sex marriage that reflects on the relationship between his queer uncles. And yes, while ‘Same Love’ is beautiful, it has received attention and sold albums mainly because Macklemore is a white dude. Many young, queer women who are artists of color—like Angel Haze and Azealia Banks—have stepped into the spotlight over the past couple years. It’s difficult to shine when you’re in always in the white, heterosexual man’s shadow.

2) Miley Cyrus’s minstrel show ‘Can’t Stop’ filled the room with the sounds and sights of the cultural appropriation of working class Black culture. Her music video, which has been criticized for using Black women’s bodies (her backup dancers) as accessories for white profit by major culture blogs on the internet, proves once again that she needs a racial justice consultant. She finished her on-stage performance by triggering me (and from the looks of it, the Smith family) by “dancing” with rape anthemist, Robin Thicke.

3) Justin Timberlake, who has been busy whitewashing R&B for over a decade, walked away from the VMAs with the Michael Jackson Vanguard Video Award as well as the top honor of the evening...

So, it's racist if Black People Don't Win at the VMAs. And also, it appears black people have some degree of ownership over R&B, such that anyone white who works in that medium is "whitewashing" it and stealing from the black man.

People shouldn't think this way, but they do. That's what makes them racist. They have little reason for valuing themselves apart from their race, and therefore they view everything in terms of Stuff My Race Made, rather than Things I Myself Made, which is of course what actually matters.

It is strange and horrifying to see that those who are the most stridently "anti-racist" are in fact those most infected with racism. "This belongs to our tribe. We, The Collective Based Upon Our Slightly-More-Similar DNA, have collective ownership rights to this."

Noah Rothman found another example of this idiocy at Vulture magazine, perpetrated by some no-account named Jody Rosen.


“[T]he shock that Cyrus was peddling wasn’t sex. It was all about race,” Rosen wrote, priming his readers for maximum shock.

“Cyrus has spent a lot of time recently toying with racial imagery,” he adds, revealing the disturbing fact that he sees racial imagery everywhere.

“Cyrus twerking her way through the video for her big hit ‘We Can’t Stop,’ professing her love for ‘hood music,’ and claiming spiritual affinity with Lil’ Kim,” Rosen continues. “Last night, as Cyrus stalked the stage, mugging and twerking, and paused to spank and simulate analingus upon the ass of a thickly set African-American backup dancer.”

It's interesting that she (or he, I don't know) is fixated on the racial angle and overlooking the somewhat more present angle of "Lesbian Analingus Pantomime for Tweeners." Oh and by the way, it was performed on a bear.

But of course no judgments on that.

If you’re keeping score, Cyrus is “toying with racial imagery” by virtue of her being a fan of and collaborating with African-American artists and by performing hyper-sexualized dancing with one of her black backup dancers. But this workmanlike presentation of damming evidence continues:

“Her act tipped over into what we may as well just call racism: a minstrel show routine whose ghoulishness was heightened by Cyrus’s madcap charisma, and by the dark beauty of “We Can’t Stop” — by a good distance, the most powerful pop hit of 2013,” Rosen adds.

By the way I've never heard that song. I'm just saying this so those of you thinking "I've never heard that song" know that you're not alone.

Rothman analyzes this through a prism similar to one I've suggested, the notion of the tribal shibboleth, the exchange of passwords and countersigns indicating allegiance to a tribe or cult.

And you can read that take at the link. However, it occurs to me that another useful analogy is to the idea of connoisseurship. These three sad mugs are all connoisseurs of Racism You Guys..

What is the point of connoisseurship? Well, as a primary matter, to develop a refined, cultured, and sensitive palate for detecting the most subtle effects of a thing. The wine connoisseur trains himself to pick out "smoky notes" and "hints of blackberry" and wines that profited from "good ash in the soil."

Of course connoisseurship is not restricted to the physical sense of taste; art connoisseurs are fond of saying things like "It's the colors that aren't present that really stand out!"

And connoisseurs of music are given to saying things as "What wonderful silences are in this piece, where you can simply enjoy the room's tone, the vibrations and echoes in the walls themselves."

The connoisseur is trained to sense things that no one else can sense, or, at least, no one but an elite cadre of dedicated Detectors of the Subtle and Sublime.

The secondary value of connoisseurship is, of course, impressing other connoisseurs, intimidating non-connoisseurs, and, by these effects, gaining a Social Advantage which maximizes one's chances for financial and sexual success.

I actually think the secondary value is really the primary one but let's be generous and just say it's a nice unintended consequence.

Now maybe I was goofing on connoisseurship a little bit there, but I have to admit, I'd like to pick up that kind of skill. So long as it does not take a great deal of time and effort, I mean.

But of course it would take that. One can fake these things, as one can fake most things, but there's nothing more embarrassing than a fake connoisseur outed as a poser.

I am suggesting, of course, that people of little talent and little liking of hard work and training have created a new connoisseurship, a connoisseurship rather easily achieved, requiring, as it does, so very little practice and so very little reading; they have created a connoisseurship of Racism, savoring (or so they say) each note so delicate as to be imperceptible to the proletarians whose sense are too unrefined to detect anything but the boldest, most obvious flavors.

And by demonstrating their connoisseurship of racism, they gain a social advantage, that of impressing the other would-be racist connoisseurs, and the various stooges and goons stupid enough to be impressed by this shabby parlor trick.

And, as with any fake connoisseur, as with any bluffer, they gain the most when they make the most ludicrous claims: "I can virtually taste the post-war global depression in this wine; there's a character in the sweat of the grape-stompers that imparts to it a sadness that is almost transcendent."

For connoisseurs, noting that a wine has a chocolate aftertaste is rather elementary and crude. No, to really impress people -- or to really bluff -- you have to really commit to it and claim that your tastes are so refined that they can perceive flavors which exist only on an atomic level:

"Mmm.. those d-orbital electrons are really a kick, aren't they? The complexity of flavors he's managed to achieve while working within the confines of just a few electron states is simply magnificent."

And so it is with the Connoisseurs of Racism.

By Jove I Think He's Got It! @empireofjeff is now expert in the New Connoisseurship:

The peanut was invented by George Washington Carver, a known black man.

I go to the store these days, and what do I see? Cans of Planter's peanuts. You know where Planters do their business?


On plantations.

When I pop the top on that can of peanuts, that hiss of air sounds to me like the sharp intake of breath made by an enslaved black, as he clings to the whipping post and bears down on the pain the lash inflicts on his tortured flesh; rebelling in the only way he knows how - by denying his cruel overseer the music of his screams.


Posted by: Ace at 12:55 PM




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1 They are constantly doubling down on this stupid bullshit.

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 12:56 PM (XG/4K)

2 The high point was when Cyrus shoved her nose in a black dancer's ass. She is trying pretty hard to get that ghetto pass.

Posted by: Ken Royall at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (h+2SD)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (/PCJa)

4 People shouldn't think this way, but they do.

Do they?

Honestly, I think it's a hammer in desperate want of a nail...any nail.

If you're paid to discuss race, then there's only money in one kind of narrative.

Maybe if they say it enough times, they'll believe it themselves. But to me it's Six Degrees of Racism.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (T0NGe)

5 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (/PCJa)

6 It's really not surprising. It's almost all they know how to do.

Posted by: loneduck at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (n+hGq)

7 I take it ace didn't like the movie.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:00 PM (/PCJa)

8 Racism will never die because blacks will never let it die. It is the nexus of their existence in America. Consequently, they see it in everything, and we are racist if we disagree with their imaginary racist monster rants.

Posted by: shibumi at August 27, 2013 01:00 PM (25HWz)

9 The high point was when Cyrus shoved her nose in a black dancer's ass. She is trying pretty hard to get that ghetto pass.
Posted by: Ken Royall at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (h+2SD)

Generally that requires being a concubine for a pro basketball team.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:00 PM (XIxXP)

10 In The Gondoliers, there is a lyric reading, "when everybody's somebody, then nobody's anybody!" Just the same, when everything's "raycisss!", then nothing is racist.

If nothing else, at least the complete devaluation* of the racism card will be a worthwhile legacy of the dog-eating crackhead's term in office

*except among limp-spined GOPers

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:00 PM (zF6Iw)

11
Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 12:59 PM (T0NGe)

I was going to say this.
But AmishDude said it better.

So I'll just note that.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:01 PM (GaqMa)

12 I'm still in shock that Robin Thicke is Alan Thicke's son.

What world am I living in?

Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 01:02 PM (GQ8sn)

13 They are staging the planes in that country they robbed a few months ago.

Posted by: Chelsea Montana at August 27, 2013 01:02 PM (443dZ)

14 The. Hell.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:02 PM (Tnlh/)

15 Ace stole my time machine!

Posted by: H.G. Wells at August 27, 2013 01:02 PM (fN+Wl)

16 8
Racism will never die because blacks will never let it die.


They are brainwashed from birth with the idea that they are perpetual victims.

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 01:03 PM (XG/4K)

17 wow- that's a lot of post

I like Dwight Yoakam and have all the B-52s albums

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:03 PM (8sCoq)

18 These people are fucking insane. Period.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:03 PM (euACX)

19 I won't be satisfied until the Beetlejuice photo shop is on the front page.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 01:04 PM (LSJmV)

20 And I thought it was about Teddy Bears and vagine. Where did I go wrong?

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 27, 2013 01:04 PM (oDCMR)

21 And sadly.... these idiots don't know their own history...

Take a look at the MOTOWN Band.... and you'll see a couple of white guys...

Why? because it was about the music....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (lZBBB)

22 I liked that video. Especially the part with the teddy bears.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (443dZ)

23
Wow, she must really hate the NFL then.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (lnFK0)

24 And also, it appears black people have some degree of ownership over RB, such that anyone white who works in that medium is "whitewashing" it and stealing from the black man.
This has been one of the things taht has annoyed me for years. Have you ever noticed when a new blackmusic star jumps onto the scene, he or she is always - ALWAYS -- placed in the RB section? Always. It doesn't matter if their music isn't remotely "rhythm and blues." It's because "black people sing RB" while "white people sing pop."

PISSES. ME. OFF. Talk about stereotyping!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (4df7R)

25 Holy crap, this "racism is everywhere" meme is getting very tiresome. These people need to get a life.

Posted by: runningrn at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (PLOz8)

26 she needs a racial justice consultant.

The saddest part is that there probably is such a thing and that the consulting consists entirely of apologizing for being white.

Posted by: booger at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (xRDdL)

27 For connoisseurs, noting that a wine has a chocolate aftertaste is rather elementary and crude. No, to really impress people -- or to really bluff -- you have to really commit to it and claim that your tastes are so refined that they can perceive flavors which exist only on an atomic level.

--------------------------

You have to say things like "peppery", "notes of leather" and "cassis" - things which would normally trigger wedgies and purple nurples amongst the incognoscenti.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (CJjw5)

28 Jesus, Mary and Joseph...Miley Virus again?

She is a no talent walking STD who is boring.

Posted by: MrsChelsea'sFishSticks at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (0KGqp)

29 I just knew Miley should have laid off of the purple drank.

Posted by: Fritz at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (UzPAd)

30 When I hear the word "racist" it means nothing, because the abundance of imbeciles using it to wipe their asses have made it meaningless.

Posted by: maddogg at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (xWW96)

31 I'm having trouble with the word--

connoisseurship.

Keep translating it to

Sewer-ship.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (r2PLg)

32 Aura Bogado's Twitter page shows that she hates George Zimmerman too.

She covers all the race bases.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (7ObY1)

33 Look out, she might get "triggered." Anything triggers these people. And by "these people" I mean online "social justice" advocates, not....oh nevermind.

Posted by: brak at August 27, 2013 01:06 PM (M2qTM)

34 I won't be satisfied until the Beetlejuice photo shop is on the front page.


Ha. I thought that was real.


Yeah I know. I've only just been barely paying attention.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (KXm42)

35 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

AYUP!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (X7MMs)

36 Have to disagree on the Connoisseur angle.

The Third purpose of the Connoisseur is to *prevent* the "untrained" or the "proles" from ever sampling the "beauty" of that thing they can sense that you can't.

They may SAY things like, "Note the subtle influence of blah blah blah." But what they really mean is, "Give up, I have forgotten more about this than you'll ever know."

That is- they don't exist to make their niche more accessible, but less so.

OTOH, what these Race Mongers want is for everyone to see everything as racial. What you eat (or don't eat) is racist. What music you listen to is racist. Where you go to Church (or don't, or if you don't go at all) is racist.

It's not merely for them to "detect" but to train the rest of us to instinctively self-censor and cower- lest what we do (whatever it is) be called racist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (/PCJa)

37 she needs a racial justice consultant



What the fuck is this???? This can't possibly be a real thing....


Wait, wait just a sec. Miley Cyrus shoved her face into the ass, and pretended to rim out, a black lesbian pedobear? Is that what happened? Cause that's about the weirdest fucking thing I could possibly think of.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (da5Wo)

38 By the way, you'd think freelance ghost bio-exorcists would be pissed too, considering Robin Thicke blatantly ripped off Beetlejuice.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (waJ+2)

39 a minstrel show routine whose ghoulishness was heightened by Cyrus’s madcap charisma,

***

Wait. Miley Cyrus has charisma?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (XUKZU)

40 Miley Cyrus is a tongue-wagging clusterfuck of a miserable no-talent.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (7ObY1)

41 Bogado, bogado, bogado... let's go racist, boyz.

Posted by: Ol' Whitey Waltrripp at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (6xhLc)

42 I'm still trying to get my sex drive back after seeing that latex ....thing.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (KXm42)

43
I'd also note this: Several of the authors seem mad because whites have taken over "traditionally African-American" categories or some such.

That's just math.

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and so, if someone does something popular (like RB or Hip hop) people will start to emulate it, and because there are more white people to emulate it than there are blacks, there's probably a higher chance that one of them will be good.

Kinda like the game Risk, where one side rolls more dice than the other. That person has a better chance of high numbers.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (GaqMa)

44 Justin Timberlake, who has been busy whitewashing RB for over a
decade, walked away from the VMAs with the Michael Jackson Vanguard
Video Award as well as the top honor of the evening...


Michael Jackson? "(It don't matter if you're) Black Or White" Michael Jackson?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_or_White

We've fallen a long way since 1991.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (/kI1Q)

45 I also read an article denouncing the slut-shaming of Miley. Because, you know, humping a bear is totes normal and healthy.

Posted by: Pretty, Pretty Princess Lauren at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (ELdpj)

46 Is that first tweet serious? Because that is the sort of thing you would expect someone to write as a parody of the racism obsessed liberals.

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (LI48c)

47 >>>hey may SAY things like, "Note the subtle influence of blah blah blah."
But what they really mean is, "Give up, I have forgotten more about
this than you'll ever know."

i said the second purpose of it was to "intimidate" non-connoisseurs.

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (/IWYB)

48 You know Yo-yo Ma? He's Asian. He plays white people music.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (XUKZU)

49 This inoculation of seeking to being a victimized person is how one ends up with a black youth doing a victory dance for clubbing to death a WWII veteran and Arabs in Gaza dancing on 9/11/2001.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (SxI9Z)

50 She is a no talent walking STD who is boring.

Now guess who's being talked about. Milky Virus, Sandy Fluke, Hillary! or Nasty Pelousy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (zF6Iw)

51 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (GjPnA)

52 This stuff slays me. White people doing rap and RB is a compliment to Black culture, not a ripoff! Sheesh. White audiences and black audiences love this music, why the heck should white artists NOT want to do the kinds of music people of all races want to hear and will pay for? (I myself was a serious funk/RB/disco fan in the 70s, never listened to the Eagles or Cheap Trick or Springsteen or any of those white rock bands. My first concert was The Isley Brothers.) Miley Cyrus is trying to act black because she thinks black people are cool. Why is it always deemed a "minstrel show"? Macklemore has black singers on all of his songs and uses black musicians. His video WAS the best this year, it was very inventive besides being a good song. Black rappers really don't put much effort into their videos, except for Kanye.

Jay-Z has done shows all summer with Timberlake. Does that make Jay-Z a minstrel or a race traitor? Anyone wanna say that to his face??

Good grief.

Posted by: rockmom at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (Q4elb)

53
By the way I've never heard that song. I'm just saying this so those of you thinking "I've never heard that song" know that you're not alone.


I have heard it, but didn't know who was to blame for it until last night. It is a fairly unremarkable piece of drivel about how the singer and her friends are gonna party and nobody can tell them not to, like, 'cause it is their body and stuff. It brings back unpleasant memories of living next to a frat house and a few hundred yards away from a Mexican dance-hall (until there was a shooting and it was closed down) back in my grad school days.

Also, Miss Cyrus does have a really raspy, unpleasant voice, like folks were saying.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (210xL)

54 And, as with any fake connoisseur, as with any bluffer, they gain the most when they make the most ludicrous claims: "I can virtually taste the post-war global depression in this wine; there's a character in the sweat of the grape-stompers that imparts to it a sadness that is almost transcendent."

Wine connoisseurs are almost always humiliated by blind taste tests.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (T0NGe)

55 MPPPP or Sydney Leathers?

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (SxI9Z)

56 bonus points to me for bothering to look up how to spell "connoisseur"

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (/IWYB)

57
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (CJjw5)

This wine has a taste of leather, implying the whip used to oppress the grape crushers was dropped into the barrel by accident.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (GaqMa)

58 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think about the way that enslaved blacks were whipped for white entertainment.

Geez, how do you even respond to inanity such as that? I guess you can't. It wasn't enough for the likes of Aura Bogado that the skank's "performance" was just plain vulgar and stoopid. The race card is just reflexively pulled from the deck and slapped on the table. These folks are being chased by their own shadows.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (Dwehj)

59 Old and busted: How can you nerds whine about Affleck! Don't you know what's going on in Syria!?

New hawtness: Let's all talk about Miley Cyrus!!




Dear Those-Who-Know-Better,

We got more upset over the Batman thing because we think we have a better chance of influencing Hollywood than our own government.

Posted by: Shoot Me at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (qiXMt)

60 I'm perfectly happy to assign twerking, analingus, gangster rap, and Justin Bieber to black culture.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (XUKZU)

61
And by demonstrating their connoisseurship of racism, they gain a social advantage, that of impressing the other would-be racist connoisseurs, and the various stooges and goons stupid enough to be impressed by this shabby parlor trick.



Also money, ace. They gain social advantage, but more importantly they gain MONEY. Racism connoisseurs translate their "skills and knowledge" into becoming racism columnists, racism consultants, and racism counselors.

"Call 1-800-Racism-R-Us. We can pinpoint even the most piddling drop of racism in your organization, for pennies on the dollar! It's a small price to pay for being politically correct!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (4df7R)

62 Connoisseurs of Racism™

I like that.

It explains the obsession some cable newsies have of constantly beating that drum. And they all seem to be white. or whitish.

Only thing is, wine can be made again and again, art can be created with a new and unique value, but racism loses by repetitive declamation.

If everything is racist, there is no racism.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (28TG+)

63 It's not merely for them to "detect" but to train the rest of us to instinctively self-censor and cower- lest what we do (whatever it is) be called racist.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:07 PM (/PCJa)

------------------------------

That's why I don't even bother, anymore. Fuck it, just concede the point. I'll be damned if I'm going to tippytoe or wring my hands wondering if what I say will be construed as racist. OF COURSE IT WILL BE.

"I am a racist. Now that that's out of the way, what would you like to discuss?"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (CJjw5)

64 If I made a list of the 25 greatest recording artists of all time, over half of them would be black. None would be from this century. This is because I'm obviously a racist.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (LSJmV)

65 i said the second purpose of it was to "intimidate" non-connoisseurs.

Yes, and my point is that these people aren't trying to "intimidate" (at least: not in that way) the "non-connoisseurs." They're trying to indoctrinate us.

They aren't trying to make us afraid to *try* to see racism everywhere (as a wine connoisseur might trty to make others afraid to try to find that "hint of smoke" or whatever); they're trying to make us afraid not to.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (/PCJa)

66 "she needs a racial justice consultant"


See, and you guys thought those "______ Studies" degrees were useless

Posted by: Brendan at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (ZeQ8L)

67 Ace's time machine!

Are you sure that first tweet wasn't sarcastic?

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (r+7wo)

68 I wonder what the London Boys would have to say about all this nonsense.


Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (jvd3N)

69 I refuse to discuss anything to do with people who think they're poets but can't conjugate the verb "to be"
did anyone besides me notice that Ace is in another time zone again?

Posted by: mallfly at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (bJm7W)

70 Just an observation, how can it be black music when its performed on exclusively European instruments? Doesn't it make white music?

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (oDCMR)

71 "the way that enslaved blacks were whipped for white entertainment" Is that even historically accurate? I can easily believe that slaves were whipped for punishment, or discipline, or deterrence of unwanted behavior. But were they whipped for entertainment? Just for funsies? I guess I'd need to see some source documents cited before I'd believe that "whipping for white entertainment" was commonplace.

Posted by: gp at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (+Jpqc)

72 I can't imagine dedicating my life to something so toxic and divisive and being happy with myself as a person. These people are miserable human beings.

Posted by: Ed at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (E8rdu)

73 I thought the Begado tweet was a joke until I saw she wrote for The Nation. Mystery Solved.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (C2//T)

74 Yeah, I'm sure it would be A-OK if Miley Cyrus announced that, heneceforth, she would only emply WHITE back-up dancers, so as not to "accessorize black dancers for white profit".

Posted by: buzz at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (i27M5)

75 It is a fairly unremarkable piece of drivel about how the singer and her friends are gonna party and nobody can tell them not to, like, 'cause it is their body and stuff.

On behalf of men everywhere, I just want to say that free and consequence-free sex just disgusts us and we are appalled by this sort of attitude.

We are all about makin' the babies. Syria you guys.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (T0NGe)

76 The bubbly has a hint of grape drank.

Posted by: Thurston Howell the Third at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (443dZ)

77
I have lived over seas and racism is alive and well in Europe, the Middle East, Africa and parts of Asia. The liberal meme for years is that the US is a racist, mysoginst country - they obviously haven't traveled much as slavery and racism are rampant in many countries.
When I remind libs of this they quickly try and change the subject.
This is a tired old game.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (G+Wff)

78 hors d'eouvres

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (KXm42)

79 and this...


If you have to explain to me why it's 'art', it's not art

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (8sCoq)

80 56 bonus points to me for bothering to look up how to spell "connoisseur"

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (/IWYB)



"Bonus points" is code for "swirlie" right?

EoJ? Wanna give me a hand?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (da5Wo)

81 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think
about the way that enslaved blacks were whipped for white entertainment.


"Every time"? Someone who's not at work with Twitter blocked needs to ask her why the fuck she keeps rewinding it to watch it over and over again if it's so horrible.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (/kI1Q)

82 Miley Cyrus has a face like a bastard rat and a voice like a trucker. I don't get the appeal.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (waJ+2)

83 Second look at Milli Vanilli?

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (jvd3N)

84 Cultural quarantine is in order.

Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (naUcP)

85
60 I'm perfectly happy to assign twerking, analingus, gangster rap, and Justin Bieber to black culture.

Thanks, I'm still laughing.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (oDCMR)

86
Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 01:09 PM (T0NGe)

Steve Levitt (of Freakonomics fame) got into some trouble if I recall with some hoity toity group at Harvard for something like this.
He swapped all their wine with 3 buck chuck, and they didn't know so he mocked them relentlessly.

I'd note, that I can tell about 3 things with wine: Sweet, dry, and earthy (I can't really explain the last one.) With "Good" and "bad" axis's on each of those that are more or less relative to my own tastes.
That's all I need to know.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (GaqMa)

87 Miley Cyrus has a face like a bastard rat and a voice like a trucker. I don't get the appeal.

Money can't buy love, but it can rent a whole lot of denial.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (/PCJa)

88
Bogado....that word makes me want a sammich for some reason. I don't know why.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (lnFK0)

89 Watch it bub. D orbitals are mine. I'll not have you Ace-washing them.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (KjlbF)

90 56 bonus points to me for bothering to look up how to spell "connoisseur"
Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (/IWYB)


***************

Seriously.

Hell addd a ship and spell check is--

"it's all good.."

Let's see connoisseur--could all be bullshit artiste right?

First--no one describes the same wine--with the same notes--that rarely happens.

Second--that time Two Buck Chuck won a wine off or whatever.

Third--why do they rarely "discover" a master artist while he is alive?

It's almost always after they are dead.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (r2PLg)

91 For the record, I read this post with my pinky finger extended.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (0HooB)

92 Whatever happened to Ke$ha?

Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)

93 In her latest video she employees a lot of minority performers. However, I don't remember he sexualizing any of them at all. All her gross preening is solo. At the end she lays besides a man, head on seen, and she kisses his chest. Can't tell what race he is.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (FnJUz)

94 f you have to explain to me why it's 'art', it's not art


Posted by: Jones in CO

Agreed.
I know shit when I see it and that was a big, steaming pile of shit.

Posted by: MrsChelsea'sFishSticks at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (0KGqp)

95 I'm told by the younger set in the office that what Cyrus did was actually "twerping," not "twerking."

I'd look up the difference if I gave a shit.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (7ObY1)

96 I am proud to say that I have never heard Miley Cyrus sing a single note

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (8sCoq)

97 It's because "black people sing RB" while "white people sing pop."


Insert Michael Jackson joke here.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (L8r/r)

98 Wow, another black person cries racism when a black artist is shut out at the VMAs.

Let me know when Miley Cyrus is up for an award at the soul train music awards.

Posted by: Hawk at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (2dYnc)

99 I'm more offended that there's a best song with a social message category.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (q/kmn)

100 You know the economy is bad when black studies majors have to go out and hustle business the hard.

Posted by: Invictus at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (OQpzc)

101 Chris Mathews is to racism as a blood hound is escapees. He can detect it a mile away even when it's raining.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (XUKZU)

102 How do you intimidate someone who gives a honey badger shit what you think? I mean really, I don't give a sugar frosted fuck what these idiots think about anything. They prove themselves idiots every time they move their tongues.

Posted by: maddogg at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (xWW96)

103 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think about the way that enslaved blacks were whipped for white entertainment.

-----------------------------

And also, Whitey licked the enslaved blacks' assholes for entertainment?

Does this skirt have some type of undisclosed head trauma?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (CJjw5)

104 92 Whatever happened to Ke$ha?

Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)



She's busy taking more pics with baby batter all over her to leak to the internet.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (da5Wo)

105 92 Whatever happened to Ke$ha?
Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)


She's selling dick jewelry online.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (FnJUz)

106 Posted by Ace at 01:55 PM Comments
-----
^^^^
I think time travel belongs to black people.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (UypUQ)

107 "Holy crap, this "racism is everywhere" meme is getting very tiresome. These people need to get a life."

Get a life? Hell, this *is* their life!

This is their identity, their meal ticket, and their raison d'etre. They will let it go from their cold, dead hands.

Oh, and BTW, "they" ain't just racialist blacks. They be whitey too. It's the only colorblind thing about the racial grievance industry.

Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 01:15 PM (4I3Uo)

108 71

Well everyone was whipped--and put in stocks and pilloried and even executed---both for punishment and everyone else's entertainment. Kind of a twofer.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Billy Currington at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GmTxn)

109 Also, Miss Cyrus does have a really raspy, unpleasant voice, like folks were saying

I always said her signing sounds like she's been smoking for 30 years.

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (LI48c)

110
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (CJjw5)

See I roll with "I'm an economic elitist."
I'll freely cop to that, because I'm fairly certain it's true.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GaqMa)

111 Well, I suppose that we are past the 100-mark point by the time I post on this tedious thread, but if you can catch the replay of Ralph Peters' epic rant about Syria, it is well worth watching. He was on Fox just now and here are the high points:

1. This is all because Obama shot his mouth off.
2. No one he knows in the military thinks going into Syria is a good idea.
3. He doesn't think Samantha Powers should be controlling military actions.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (GoIUi)

112 I am so glad I don't go through life like that. Offended!! OFFENDED!! OFFENDED I SAY!

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (fWAjv)

113 In late, even for Ace, but man did he Bring It.

Posted by: Andy at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (dqUox)

114 And here I used to think racial justice andharmony were being advanced by white artists like Timberlake who pay homage to black music, and Daft Punk and Robin Thicke using Pharell Williams in their songs. Hall and Oates did "blue eyed soul" 30 years ago and when I go see them I see plenty of black people in the audience. I saw Stevie Wonder a few years ago and marveled at the integrated audience. Everyone likes RB music that has a great beat. Doesn't Beyonce have millions of white fans? Millions of young white people like black rap music too. They don't just wait for the next Eminem album.

This is a GOOD thing!

People who argue against this are racial separatists who do not want justice and equality and harmony.

Posted by: rockmom at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (Q4elb)

115 Check the SRV thread for more stupidity along the post lines.

Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (jI23+)

116 Ooooh...


connoisseur has the word "con" in it.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (r2PLg)

117 You have to say things like "peppery", "notes of leather" and "cassis" - things which would normally trigger wedgies and purple nurples amongst the incognoscenti.



Pro Tip: If you "detect" notes of leather, quit drinking ripple out of a boot.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (E7Zh9)

118 My three categories of wine: Box, twist cap or cork.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (0HooB)

119
"White profit"

"Racial Justice Consultant"


I don't even know what those mean.

Posted by: Most interesting man in the world at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (lnFK0)

120 101 Chris Mathews is to racism as a blood hound is escapees. He can detect it a mile away even when it's raining.


Ditto Charles Johnson.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (7ObY1)

121 Ace, and I'm not kidding on this -- When are you going to do a book of your essays? I'd buy it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (BDU/a)

122 This post is peaty and piquant, with just a hint of White Privilege.

Posted by: joncelli at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (RD7QR)

123 *toddlerfists*

I wanna be a connoisseur of the time machine ace totally doesn't have and only lets Mike Judge borrow!

*toddlerfists some more*


I wonder if these oh so special snowflakes are aware that claims that the white man is stealing the black man's music goes back to at least Elvis. Hell, it goes back to actual minstrel shows.

You know what's more boring than that idiot Can't Stop song? Whinging about how oh noes racist everything is.

As far as Robin Thicke stealing anything, I'm pretty sure all he stole was Snoop's weed habit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (VtjlW)

124 "art connoisseurs are fond of saying things like "It's the colors that aren't present that really stand out!""

So it's the racism that wasn't present that's so terrible.

Posted by: BignJames at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (HtUkt)

125 I obviously didn't look up misogynist. Sigh.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:17 PM (G+Wff)

126 LOL.



S.M ‏@redsteeze 16h
Every time @aurabogado retweets me I think back to how black slaves were just retweeted for white entertainment.

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (fWAjv)

127
The high point was when Cyrus shoved her nose in a black dancer's ass.
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So if they reversed position and the dancers nose was in Miley's ass, i guess that would not be racist...good to know

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (SO2Q8)

128 "Call 1-800-Racism-R-Us. We can pinpoint even the most piddling drop of racism in your organization, for pennies on the dollar! It's a small price to pay for being politically correct avoiding the lawsuit that DOJ will bring against you at our behest!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:11 PM (4df7R)


FIFY

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (OtQXp)

129 I like this. We should start calling them "Connoisseurs of Race" instead of "race baiters".

Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (zoehZ)

130 My ancestors used to beat on a hollow log and dance around a fire.

Everything since then is derivative and racist, you wingnuts.

Posted by: Fritz at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (UzPAd)

131 I demands reparations.

Posted by: Racial Justice Connosewer at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (443dZ)

132 You know Yo-yo Ma? He's Asian. He plays white people music.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:08 PM (XUKZU)

And when Zamfir played Baby got Back on the pan flute, well you can see how this gets started.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (XIxXP)

133 i thought it was rather pathetic that the skinny white girl who couldn't keep her tongue in her mouth and hand off of her vagina stomped around breathlessly and her mother, who was there, didn't yank her off stage and beat her

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (8JJ6O)

134 I don't even see the attractiveness factor with Miley Virus.

That blond who played her friend on TV, the older sister of that Sixth Sense kid...now SHE grew up to be a hottie.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (7ObY1)

135 If I ever get the opportunity to punch Shepard Smith in the face, it will be a bittersweet moment as I recall the Negro League catchers who got spiked at home plate.

Posted by: Moron in a Homestead Grays Snuggie at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (Ks4nX)

136 118
My three categories of wine: Box, twist cap or cork.

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When I wuz a drinkin' man, if it didn't have a pop-top or a twist cap, I usually didn't buy it. (One look at the current prices of the brands I used to imbibe back then is usually enough to keep me sober.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (BDU/a)

137 Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:12 PM (G+Wff)

As a filthy furriner, I can tell you that the US is, IMO, the most open society on earth.

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (r+7wo)

138
Generally that requires being a concubine for a pro basketball team.
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ahh, so concubining for the Philadelphia 76ers wouldn't do it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (SO2Q8)

139 I say whitey demands reparations for Rockwell and the Eddie Murphy dance album. We can never unhear that shit.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (jvd3N)

140 Hey Aura - I am wearing black shoes today. I walk on them so that is like walking on the 'black man' and holding him/her down right? The laces on my BLACK shoes is like stringing black people up in trees and lynching them right? Oh lawdy.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (G+Wff)

141
how do these "experts" of subtle racism miss the racism of Farrakhan, Sharpton, Obama etc

I know, I know

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (zOTsN)

142 Whatever happened to Ke$ha?

Ugh. Just seeing that name makes me feel like I've picked up a dose of the clap.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (zF6Iw)

143 Dear Ms. Bogado,

With the amount of racism you're seeing everywhere, have you ever considered working for the Southern Poverty Law Center?

Posted by: NR Pax at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (U+O64)

144 My ancestors played mandolins and sang "O Solo Mio."

I denounce myself.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (7ObY1)

145 This review is racist. The reviewer’s hash is “I Want Yellow Blacks!!!!!”

!!!!!

Posted by: Happy Happy Foot Time at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (QF8uk)

146 Didn't Ace slap his gf's butt a few years ago? Do we know the race of the gf whose ass he slapped? Is ace guilty of slapping black booty in the manner that black slaves were whipped for white entertainment, too? We do know he was giggling like a moron.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (FnJUz)

147 Macklemore's win = Grievance Battle : Gay vs. Black

Posted by: Jenny Hates Stinky Sockpuppets at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (GmTxn)

148 Any day that people pay attention to an ignorant fatass like Aura Bogoda is a wasted day.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (SD89Q)

149 Chris Mathews is to racism as a blood hound is escapees. He can detect it a mile away even when it's raining.


Ditto Charles Johnson.



At least a bloodhound is on target.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (E7Zh9)

150 The "stealing from black artists" complaint/allegation/charge has been leveled for decades. I want to note that the ultra-liberal by-no-means-racist entertainment industry has completely ignored that also.

Why? My guess is that it is too profitable to do otherwise; and in the Entertainment Industry moral posturing and sanctimonius preaching definitely take the back of the bus when it comes to money.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen! Now with Oxidizers! at August 27, 2013 01:20 PM (hLRSq)

151
40Miley Cyrus is a tongue-wagging clusterfuck of a miserable no-talent.
^^^^
THIS

Posted by: Gene Simmons at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (SO2Q8)

152 I guess this is Miley Virus' target audience?

Amanda Catherine Hein can face murder charges in Allentown, PA. She was at a sports bar and excused herself after saying she felt back pains. She vanished into the bathroom for 40 minutes. When she rejoined her three male friends she asked them to ignore the blood on her. Ms. Hein had delivered in the bathroom a baby boy and then stuffed the baby into a garbage bag before placing the body in the tank of a toilet. She and her friends stayed another hour in the pub and only later was the dead baby found as the bathroom was cleaned.
http://tinyurl.com/lgd5w7a

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (SxI9Z)

153 82 Miley Cyrus has a face like a bastard rat and a voice like a trucker. I don't get the appeal.
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:13 PM (waJ+2)

Yesterday, to be polite, I said she wasn't that cute in the face, but this is more descriptive and accurate.

I've never understood how such an unpretty girl could be so popular. But before her were the Olsen twins.

I guess this is not such a shallow society after all? (Trying to look for the silver lining on this excrement cloud.)

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (r+7wo)

154 98 Wow, another black person cries racism when a black artist is shut out at the VMAs.

Let me know when Miley Cyrus is up for an award at the soul train music awards.
Posted by: Hawk at August 27, 2013 01:14 PM (2dYnc)

I know what your point is here, but several white artists have won awards from the STMA.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (Tnlh/)

155 So I guess Andre Watts is 'stealing' from the white man.

Posted by: profligatewaste at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (R3JkO)

156 I'm pretty sure Krugman and Friedman at the NYT are-


Connoisseurs of Economics

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (r2PLg)

157 I am so glad I don't go through life like that. Offended!! OFFENDED!! OFFENDED I SAY!
Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (fWAjv)


**points**

I didn't get an "OFFENDED!" from that guy!

Posted by: The Hon. William J. LePetomane at August 27, 2013 01:22 PM (zF6Iw)

158 The only rap music I ever heard that I liked was by white dudes. Weird.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:22 PM (KXm42)

159 144
My ancestors played mandolins and sang "O Solo Mio."

*
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Mine sang Swedish sea chanteys (are there such things?) and Ruthenian madrigals. So I'm rayciss. So be it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:22 PM (BDU/a)

160 129 I like this. We should start calling them "Connoisseurs of Race" instead of "race baiters".

Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (zoehZ)



Mmm... Heavily bitter taste with an undertone of anger.

/chug

Posted by: Pretentious Racism Connoisseur at August 27, 2013 01:22 PM (oY6Yp)

161 minstrel show routine whose ghoulishness was heightened by Cyrus’s madcap charisma

Unpacking a bit here: white actors in black-face dancing and singing in a highly ritualized manner (minstrel show routine) whose morbid fascination with death (ghoulish) was amplified by Cyrus' amusingly eccentric (madcap) natural charm (charisma).

Does that make a single bit of sense? Her eccentric charm amplified the morbid death fascination?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (2hTlI)

162 Haven't read the comments yet but isn't Alan-- Excuse me-- Robin Thicke's song not racist?

He's been cribbing the hip-hop/ R B scene for his entire career.


Posted by: Dave C at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (POpH/)

163 If I was black I'd be pretty pissed a Miley right now.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (KXm42)

164 Dana Loesch said on TV yesterday Milky Virus needs to learn about two things. Jesus and Squats.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (XIxXP)

165 /lurk
Great post!
lurk

Posted by: Arnie Fufkin at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (cHIOd)

166
When I wuz a drinkin' man, if it didn't have a pop-top or a twist cap, I usually didn't buy it. (One look at the current prices of the brands I used to imbibe back then is usually enough to keep me sober.)

I was so very fond of Chateau de Boone's Farm, 1973.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (0HooB)

167
Miley Cyrus’s minstrel show ‘Can’t Stop’ filled the room with the sounds and sights of the cultural appropriation of working class Black culture. Her music video, which has been criticized for using Black women’s bodies (her backup dancers) as accessories for white profit by major culture blogs on the internet, proves once again that she needs a racial justice consultant.
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Now if i were to rewrite this and substitute Tiger Wood and Golf. How would that sound?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (SO2Q8)

168 How appropriate that this post comes on the morning of the one previous, where our resident racial connoisseur (Blues division) dismissed SRV thusly:

"10 SRV: white guy, technically proficient, lacked soul.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2013 11:50 AM (TOk1P) "

Posted by: AtlasMugged at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (URn6H)

169 http://tinyurl.com/kdmpp9m

“For Obama, economics is a safe way to talk about race,” said Taylor
Branch, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of a three-volume history of the
King era widely regarded as the definitive chronicle of the civil rights
movement.

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1> Blame Republicans.

2> Send Hairy Reed out to call Republicans racists.

3> Repeat.

Posted by: Little Red Book of Obama at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (6xhLc)

170 Miley's number insisted upon itself. There's a fine line between Miley twerking and Miley twerking Miley. That line has been crossed.

Posted by: Twerking and twerping connoisseur at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (XUKZU)

171 82 Miley Cyrus has a face like a bastard rat and a voice like a trucker. I don't get the appeal.
*
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Don't know about the voice, but from glimpses I caught on TV, she was certainly cute in her HM incarnations. Screeching and wailing in a "performance," well, nobody looks good doing that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (BDU/a)

172 I was so very fond of Chateau de Boone's Farm, 1973.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 27, 2013 01:23 PM (0HooB)

I liked Annie Greensprings Peach Creek.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (XIxXP)

173 Racism II: Electric Bogado

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (zF6Iw)

174 It's like when Michael Jackson got that plastic surgery to look white.

I was like, damn is that what we look like to them?

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (KXm42)

175 Miley Cyrus's performance made masterful use of the negative space betweenthe asscheeks of a black woman wearing a giant teddy bear head, evoking the imagery of racial reconciliation, where the traditional tribal rhythms of the Dark Continent are passed on, anally, to the white Madonna-figure, ushering in a new dawn of shared musical experience.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:24 PM (CJjw5)

176 Just thinking Ace. Been a while since you hammered old Chucky Johnson into the ground. Don't you think he is due a new beating? Kinda fun, cause you know he would read every word and every comment. And then run sobbing to his ass lickers for aid and and comfort. A couple of the dumber ones might even make an appearance to allow us a personal shot. Just thinking, as I said.

Posted by: maddogg at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (xWW96)

177 So by this logic then it's wrong that Tiger Woods excels at golf because golf is my Scottish ancestors' domain and no non-Scot should be allowed to reign in this particular sport!?! How about the best person win at whatever because they're the best not because they're a particular race?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (UrtRh)

178 I appreciate art connoisseurs. I had a show a few weeks ago and a very knowledgeable lady examined one of my paintings for a very long time. I approached her, introduced myself, and asked her opinion of the piece (this one: http://tinyurl.com/ljjd5tu ). She proceeded to break down, in detail, everything I was striving for in that particular painting. She was able to pinpoint artistic influences, identify the golden section compositional arrangement, and essentially follow my thinking throughout every stage of the process. She was uncanny. We talked for a long time about art and politics and life in general. I felt at a disadvantage since I was clearly getting more from her than she from me.

So yeah, connoisseurship is sometimes a very good thing. We can learn from such people. Racial connoisseurs? Not so much.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter's Nightmare Killer Rabbit at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (2jF2B)

179 When I see Miley smack dat ass I think about da buttseks.

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (5fSr7)

180 159 144
My ancestors played mandolins and sang "O Solo Mio."
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Mine sang Swedish sea chanteys (are there such things?) and Ruthenian madrigals. So I'm rayciss. So be it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:22 PM (BDU/a)

Mine played banjos and said " You got a purty mouf"

Posted by: BignJames at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (HtUkt)

181 i thought it was rather pathetic that the skinny white girl who couldn't
keep her tongue in her mouth and hand off of her vagina stomped around
breathlessly and her mother, who was there, didn't yank her off stage
and beat her


Say what? I was never more proud in my entire pathetic life!

Posted by: Miley's Baby Mama at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (Dwehj)

182

Can I get a ruling on a Maine Handshake?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (Lu41K)

183 I think it's time for the Irish and the Scots to start demanding reparations from the American country-western and bluegrass industries for blatantly ripping off their musical stylings.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (4df7R)

184
Side note folks.
Wired just showed some population by race map of America some Ivy Leaguer is turning in as his thesis statement.
Prepare to be hammered by racism all day long.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (GaqMa)

185 And when Zamfir played Baby got Back on the pan flute, well you can see how this gets started.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:18 PM (XIxXP)



By the insanity of cthulhu, that needs to be a real thing.


I will say this for Robin Thicke, I really really really enjoyed the video for Blurred Lines. It's more or less the Horde makes a music video though needs moar weaponry.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (VtjlW)

186 And when Zamfir played Baby got Back on the pan flute, well you can see how this gets started.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton OSP - you can't go wrong with a Zamfir reference. I actually miss those late night commercials with Zamfir's world class elegance!

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (G+Wff)

187
she needs a racial justice consultant

What the fuck is this???? This can't possibly be a real thing....
---
Whites need not apply. Only those who can pass the paper bag test.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (SO2Q8)

188 Is Aura Bogado black? 100% black?

If not, I, as an unadulterated black person, pronounce her racist for... *searches mind, tries to imagine what it's like to be bat-guano insane*

...daring to speak on behalf of enslaved blacks, many of whom are still around today (e.g., Maxine Waters, or was that Sheila Jackson Lee?). Being a person of relative pallor, Ms Bogado's pronouncements are the pronouncements of the oppressors and their lackeys.

OK. I can't go on. I'm getting disoriented.

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (r+7wo)

189
Don't you see the game here?

i) Celebrities do something shocking
ii) it is followed by 'deep' racio-socio-economic analysis
iii) and the rest of us soak it all in.


This is how you dismantle and destruct a civilization, folks.


Posted by: soothsayer at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (cfAmX)

190 Mmm... this Colt 45 has a whiff of--wait--

eau de Compton and is reminiscent of Early East Pittsburgh.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (r2PLg)

191 What the fuck is a "rape anthemist?"

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (waJ+2)

192
I have a racist antisemetic kicked out of Nation of Islam now head of Houston New Black Panther Party going to my kids Jewish school to talk about racism and tolerance


help me

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (zOTsN)

193
I'm guessing this makes CAC our biggest racist.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (Lu41K)

194 I always look for the "Close it Up" at the end of an Ace post, but it's never there!

Good read nonetheless.

Posted by: NotCoach at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (rsudF)

195
109 I always said her signing sounds like she's been smoking for 30 years.

I always thought her signing sounded kind of like the sound of one hand clapping.

Her singing, now, can't say that I've ever listened to it intentionally.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (IrbU4)

196 My ancestors played mandolins and sang "O Solo Mio."

***

Does your "family" put out "contracts" on people who then "sleep with the fishes"?

Posted by: Twerking and twerping connoisseur at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (XUKZU)

197 Holy Epic Blog Posts, Batman.

I hope to see every person with a brain and an internet following to mention and link to this post in the next 48 hours. These kinds of posts are powerful enough to develop campaign communications strategies around.

Race Baiting = Shabby Parlor Trick is a stroke of genius, easily comprehended and obviously true to even the most casual of observers.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (tWmgi)

198 That was embarrassing. Off damn sock.

Posted by: troyriser at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (2jF2B)

199 Coming soon: CMT awards for white performers only!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (UrtRh)

200 166

When I wuz a drinkin' man, if it didn't have a pop-top or a twist
cap, I usually didn't buy it. (One look at the current prices of the
brands I used to imbibe back then is usually enough to keep me sober.)

I was so very fond of Chateau de Boone's Farm, 1973.

*
*
For me, Old Milwaukee beer and Harwood Canadian whiskey. Harwood was cheap, but so bad it gave me a hangover before I went to sleep.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (BDU/a)

201 Didn't Gordy Howe screw a lot of these true RB artists out of a fuck ton of
money??


Posted by: dananjcon at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (jvd3N)

202 Personally, I prefer the f-orbital electrons. They have a much bolder spin. The hints of quarkiness are just sublime.

Posted by: chemjeff, electron connoisseur at August 27, 2013 01:27 PM (vEIeT)

203 My grandfather was the life the party when he'd retell his stories about slapping his black slaves on the ass. Because it was a funny thing that all the slave-owners did.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (8ZskC)

204 ***looks at my black car with black tinted windows and black rims***

Yep, must be

Posted by: Navycopjoe at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (wNsNP)

205 >>This is how you dismantle and destruct a civilization, folks.


Bingo

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (UrtRh)

206 Who knew that committing analingus on a black chick was racist?

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (oDCMR)

207 auro write on native American rights. I hope she is native American. Otherwise, minstel show, serious you guys

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (zOTsN)

208
So by this "logic" Cyrus, Madonna, Timberlake, etc. are enslaving black performers to appear in their shows? They are not paid, they can not eat, they have no free will because these white entertainers are enslaving them?

The infantilizing of blacks never ceases to amaze me by these connoisseurs.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:28 PM (G+Wff)

209 How did she go from perky Hannah Montana to The Little Demon Who Could in so short a time?

Did they do surveys? Focus Groups? Polls?

What genius created this and what level of hell did they originate in?

You can see Medieval Demonic art that doesn't evoke a more terrifying and revolting creature than was shown on the VMA.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (28TG+)

210 Here. But I warn you, once you've seen and heard this, you CANNOT unsee or unhear it.

I give you.....Miley Cyrus covering Nirvana.

http://youtu.be/tK8Vs7nyWd0

May God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (da5Wo)

211 People who argue against this are racial separatists who do not want justice and equality and harmony.
Posted by: rockmom at August 27, 2013 01:16 PM (Q4elb)

True. In fairness, however, were it not for Twitter, few would have ever heard of this Aura Boogie person.

In my novel, I had one of my characters' rhetorically ask: "How do you steal someone else's culture? Do you snatch it out of their hand, put it in your pocket and walk off?"

Or something like that.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (Tnlh/)

212 Wow. Double Espresso Latte with Goat's milk?

That's some heavy shit.

We don't have Black people in VT.

Do they really eat collards? Our goats love them.

Posted by: Mary's lesbian lover from Brattelboro, VT at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (wR+pz)

213 I always thought her signing sounded kind of like the sound of one hand clapping.



She ripped it off from Helen Keller.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (E7Zh9)

214
'...twerking, and paused to spank and simulate analingus upon the ass of a thickly set African-American backup dancer.”


I don't care who you are, this is worth the price of admission.


Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:30 PM (Lu41K)

215 How did she go from perky Hannah Montana to The Little Demon Who Could in so short a time?


Tequila, blow and the discovery of her clitoris.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:30 PM (XIxXP)

216 Miley Cyrus mimes interracial salad tossing .
Writers search for meaning in the performance .
Talk about a grubby fuckin' narrative .

Posted by: awkward davies at August 27, 2013 01:30 PM (WK8VM)

217 184 Side note folks. Wired just showed some population by race map of America some Ivy Leaguer is turning in as his thesis statement. Prepare to be hammered by racism all day long.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (GaqMa)



That the one with colored dots for each person in America? I thought it was interesting to see how much wilderness there is in the west side of the country in contrast to the east side.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:30 PM (sGtp+)

218
Miley Cyrus's performance made masterful use of the negative space betweenthe asscheeks of a black woman wearing a giant teddy bear head, evoking the imagery of racial reconciliation, where the traditional tribal rhythms of the Dark Continent are passed on, anally, to the white Madonna-figure, ushering in a new dawn of shared musical experience.

*sniff* That was beautiful, man.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (0HooB)

219 Is Aura Bogado black? 100% black?

"An immigrant from South America of indigenous (Guarani) decent, she is currently based in New York, and plays son jarocho music in her spare time.

"

http://colorlines.com/archives/author/aura-bogado/

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (/kI1Q)

220
When I first heard Soul Provider by Michael Bolton, I thought he was black.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (lnFK0)

221 ... and paused to spank and simulate analingus upon the ass of a thickly set African-American backup dancer.”

If I were teh backup dancer I'd be complaining, "Who the hell are you calling 'thickly set?'!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (4df7R)

222 does the peanut butter sandwich I'm snacking on mean I'm supporting racism? Ever since I learned thatEdward 'Skippy' Williamson and Frederick 'Jiff' Armstrong ripped off George Washington Carver's invention of butter made out of peanuts I've never been sure.....

Posted by: the Butcher at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (8g9qq)

223 Serious, you guys - what's the deal with that creepy tongue thing she' s doing? Head trauma? Chemical imbalance? Channeling Gene Simmons?

Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (4I3Uo)

224 alligators and lizards are just ripping off the dinosaurs

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (8sCoq)

225 Bootsy Collins played funk because secretly he was a pasty white tweener girl just aching to bust loose.

Posted by: Fritz at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (UzPAd)

226 What the fuck is a "rape anthemist?"
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:26 PM (waJ+2)



Apparently Blurred Lines is a rape anthem because omg it's him telling some girl that he knows what she really really really wants is Robin Thicke's big dick even though she presents herself as a good girl.


You know how boring this Miley is a racist stuff is? The raaaape stuff is worse.


Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (VtjlW)

227 How did she go from perky Hannah Montana to The Little Demon Who Could in so short a time?

***

Are you familiar with The Exorcist?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (XUKZU)

228 How about we apply this logic to music purchases, too? You can only be a consume of music for your genetic/racial ancestry.
Yeah, Jay Z and Beyonce would not be happy!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (UrtRh)

229 158 The only rap music I ever heard that I liked was by white dudes. Weird.
Posted by: eleven

-----------------------------------------------------------

The only rap music that I ever heard and liked was performed by mimes.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (LSJmV)

230 Is there any money to be made in coming up with retarded bullshit words to stick into rap songs, like "twerking"?

How about "smorching"? Just as stupid and meaningless. Album dropping Sept. 30, bitches.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (CJjw5)

231 I'm sure her Father/Brother is very proud of her

Posted by: Beto at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (MhA4j)

232
Who knew that committing analingus on a black chick was racist?

If it involves black people, it is racist. If it doesn't involve black people, it is exclusionary and therefore racist.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (210xL)

233 In my novel, I had one of my characters' rhetorically ask: "How do you
steal someone else's culture? Do you snatch it out of their hand, put it
in your pocket and walk off?"


Awesome.

You can destroy a culture, suppress a culture, mimic a culture, shame a culture, but steal one?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (IoTdl)

234 O/T: Paging lostmonkey70...

Busted!

Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (naUcP)

235 before placing the body in the tank of a toilet

Freaking noobs. Everyone who's seen an episode of Bones or CSI knows you stuff your dead bodies into the used fry oil recovery bins where they won't be found for months.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (2BHYC)

236
"......twerking, and paused to spank and simulate analingus upon the ass of a thickly set African-American backup dancer.”


Was that wrong?

Because if anyone had said anything about this when I was hired...

Posted by: George Costanza at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (Lu41K)

237 I'm taking pan flute lessons.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (Dwehj)

238 I give you.....Miley Cyrus covering Nirvana.


Not gonna click. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (XG/4K)

239 Ke$ha only has one good song. And it is only good when mashed up with video from the original Star Trek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWaWrvJ7nA

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (LI48c)

240 The only rap music that I ever heard and liked was performed by Hellfire Missiles

Posted by: Beto at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (MhA4j)

241 I guess the moral lesson here is Don't Toss Salad With Bears - cause racist.

Posted by: The Stupid Hurts at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (oDCMR)

242 What we need are more N*gga work songs.


http://tinyurl.com/mwv37w9

Posted by: Mary's lesbian lover from Brattelboro, VT at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (wR+pz)

243 Is this article RREALLY a thing? By which I mean, does anybody besides the author read this and agree with it? Or is it one of those "because the internet exists, drivel like this must necessarily exist."

This article just seems satire to me, but maybe some people are just beyond parody.

Posted by: taylork at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (ppNDn)

244 Serious, you guys - what's the deal with that creepy tongue thing she' s doing? Head trauma? Chemical imbalance? Channeling Gene Simmons?
Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 01:31 PM (4I3Uo)


I dunno. She thinks it's sexy or something? Like, "Look at my tongue! I can do all kinds of perverted things with it, wanna see?" I find it about as appealing as if she had popped out her eyeball and was swinging it around like a morningstar.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (4df7R)

245 does the peanut butter sandwich I'm snacking on mean I'm supporting racism?

Yes.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/332723.php

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (/kI1Q)

246
Every time I hold a poster of The One one-handed, I think about the way that enslaved blacks were whipped for white entertainment.


Then, I cum. Hard. REAL HARD

Posted by: Chelsea Bogado at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (bUmSq)

247 Everyone who's seen an episode of Bones or CSI knows you stuff your dead bodies into the used fry oil recovery bins where they won't be found for months.




Appreciate the heads up!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (E7Zh9)

248
114I saw Stevie Wonder a few years ago and marveled at the integrated audience. Doesn't Beyonce have millions of white fans? Millions of young white people like black rap music too.

Maybe, but they don't like-like it. The white fans *pretend* to like black music so that they can hide their racism down deep where no one will see it.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (IrbU4)

249 My white 'rons and 'ettes, it appears the only way for y'all not to be "racist" if for y'all to just disappear off the face of the earth. Because you are racist just by looking a black person in the face - actually, just by breathing.

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (r+7wo)

250 ..."Peanut Butter" or what we may as well just call racism.

Posted by: The Inverted States of America at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (EZl54)

251 watch this video

black guy doing song written by white guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqz876VkwwY

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (8sCoq)

252 I'm no JT fan, but really the guy does R&B better than almost anyone in the last 20 years. I'm guessing these race hustlers would be shocked and angered to find out how much classic R&B and Motown was written by old jewish men, white giant Steve Cropper and terrifying Carol King.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (U9o8f)

253 When was the last time a white girl even medaled in the 100m Salad Toss, anyway?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (Lu41K)

254
Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:30 PM (sGtp+)

Yep, that one.

Wired cut the map unfairly though.

Take St. Louis, they kept it specifically inside the 170 loop. If you take a shot of my area it's surprisingly more integrated. Not completely, but still.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (GaqMa)

255 Miley Cyrus’s minstrel show ‘Can’t Stop’ filled the room with the sounds and sights of the cultural appropriation of working class Black culture

This 'working class Black culture,' as they lionize it, the vulgarity, the crass, animal, consequence-less and nihilist sexuality, and illiterism, is one of the things breaking the back of 'Black culture' and the wider culture when it penetrates into larger society. But I'm sure I would be the raaaaaacis' for pointing out that they're blaming blacks for this without realizing it.

The 'culture' on display on that stage is pure cultural cancer.

Posted by: zsasz at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (MMC8r)

256 231 I'm sure her Father/Brother is very proud of her
Posted by: Beto at August 27, 2013 01:32 PM (MhA4j)

her mother was there off stage watching....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (8JJ6O)

257 >>>So yeah, connoisseurship is sometimes a very good thing. We can learn from such people.

I parodied it some but I mostly intended to parody the bluffers, the duffers, the poseurs and les frimeurs.

I do think that people are too quick to denigrate any learning they themselves don't have. I think that's a natural and understandable ego-driven response, but it's not a GOOD response.

I happen to know a connoisseur. I won't say of what. I will say it's the sort of connoisseurship you guys would respect. And given he's an acknowledged leader in his field of expertise, I could never say, "Oh, he's just FAKING his refinement of taste."

He's not. I could never tell him, "Oh, that's JUST your taste." Well yes it is his taste. But not JUST his taste. There is a great deal of work involved in it.

And not to get credentialist but he's got the credentials, including from (this isn't the case but I'm trying to hide his identity) people who call him up for his opinion to evaluate their wares.

I have to think when different people keep coming to the same conclusion about his taste and ability to craft the thing he crafts, it's a real thing, and not some massive con.

That said, there is a high, high bullshit factor in much of this. And particularly in the case of Fields of Expertise that don't actually exist, like Detectin' Dog Whistles and Minstrel Shows.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (/IWYB)

258
How did she go from perky Hannah Montana to The Little Demon Who Could in so short a time?


Reminds me of that Steely Dan line: ...plays like a Roman with her eyes on fire...

The tongue......she had to be on something to walk around with that latex catastrophe going with her tongue sticking out.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (KXm42)

259 Steve Cropper and terrifying Carol King.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (U9o8f)


I believe the same steve cropper that was in the Blues Brothers.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (XIxXP)

260 >Maybe, but they don't like-like it. The white fans
*pretend* to like black music so that they can hide their racism down
deep where no one will see it.


Posted by: Anachronda at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (IrbU4)\

damn you could have a nightly half hour on MSNBC

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (8sCoq)

261 Can you say "beclownment"?

What utter nothingness. What must it feel like to live a life composed of nothing but ether, devoid of any true reality or meaning? Where self-awareness is unknown?

Guess what, honey. You're being laughed at. A lot.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (wtvvX)

262 I dunno. She thinks it's sexy or something? Like, "Look at my tongue! I
can do all kinds of perverted things with it, wanna see?" I find it
about as appealing as if she had popped out her eyeball and was swinging
it around like a morningstar.


Brilliant! Next VMA, here we come.

Posted by: Miley Cyrus' Agent at August 27, 2013 01:35 PM (IoTdl)

263
I thought she was imitating stripper culture

am I right?

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

264 I guess the moral lesson here is Don't Toss Salad With Bears - cause racist.

Also because "you are made of meat and bears like meat" but yeah.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (/kI1Q)

265
210 Here. But I warn you, once you've seen and heard this, you CANNOT unsee or unhear it. I give you.....Miley Cyrus covering Nirvana. http://youtu.be/tK8Vs7nyWd0 May God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (da5Wo)


I shall top you. Celine Dion covering ACDC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULmC8JTTVy0

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (LI48c)

266 So, can I safely assume the left's reaction to the Russian Deputy Premier who just said we are acting like "a monkey with a hand grenade"?

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (8/DeP)

267 My white 'rons and 'ettes, it appears the only way for y'all not to be "racist" if for y'all to just disappear off the face of the earth. Because you are racist just by looking a black person in the face - actually, just by breathing.

--------------------------

That's what I'm saying! We're racists!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (CJjw5)

268 OK. So I finally decided to read past the first tweet, and all I have to say is:

Dear Sweet Fancy Moses. These people are certifiable.

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (r+7wo)

269 >How did she go from perky Hannah Montana to The Little Demon Who Could in so short a time?


too much money + stupid = miley cyrus

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (8sCoq)

270
"BROWN EYE, GIRL" - Van Morrison (1974)

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (Lu41K)

271 Prepare to be hammered by racism all day long.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 27, 2013 01:25 PM (GaqMa)




Can I be hammered by vodka and Norman Reedus instead? Cause I'd like that better.

Here. This is also something which once seen cannot be unseen. Protip: mine's better.


http://bit.ly/16OjuuH



Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (VtjlW)

272 When was the last time a white girl even medaled in the 100m Salad Toss, anyway?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (Lu41K)


1976, the East Germans were experimenting with steroids.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (XIxXP)

273
I thought the tongue thing might have been a side effect of drug use

some drugs do that

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

274 Hey Miley,

Next video, have an all white cast with all white backup dancers.

Then we can watch these whiny bloggers accuse you of racism. Again!

Posted by: Hawk at August 27, 2013 01:37 PM (2dYnc)

275 This 'working class Black culture,' as they lionize it, the vulgarity, the crass, animal, consequence-less and nihilist sexuality, and illiterism, is one of the things breaking the back of 'Black culture' and the wider culture when it penetrates into larger society. But I'm sure I would be the raaaaaacis' for pointing out that they're blaming blacks for this without realizing it.

The 'culture' on display on that stage is pure cultural cancer.
Posted by: zsasz at August 27, 2013 01:34 PM (MMC8r)


***************

That is it.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:37 PM (r2PLg)

276 >My white 'rons and 'ettes, it appears the only way for y'all not to be
"racist" if for y'all to just disappear off the face of the earth.
Because you are racist just by looking a black person in the face -
actually, just by breathing.


you mean, "I am, therefore I am racist" ?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:37 PM (8sCoq)

277 I sometimes wonder if part of the popularity of rap is that white kids can drive down the street in their PT Cruiser while the N word is blaring from their car stereo and no one accuses them of racism

Posted by: mallfly at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (bJm7W)

278
206Who knew that committing analingus on a black chick was racist?
---
Obviously it is only properly done to the Irish...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (SO2Q8)

279 Ihappen to know a connoisseur. I won't say of what. I will say it's the sort of connoisseurship you guys would respect.

______________________

Titties?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (CJjw5)

280 263

Well yes. But I read a piece that seriously claimed that stripper culture (at least the kind Miley was...honoring) is black culture. Not even kidding.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Stinky Sockpuppets at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (GmTxn)

281 I thought she was imitating stripper culture

am I right?




Needed a pole.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (E7Zh9)

282 Thanks AtC, I figured it was something equally idiotic.

Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (waJ+2)

283 Because you are racist just by looking a black person in the face - actually, just by breathing.

Also, you're racist by not looking a black person in the face exactly the same way as you would a white person in nice clothing. See "micro aggression".

Posted by: Miley Cyrus' Agent at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (IoTdl)

284 263
I thought she was imitating stripper culture

am I right?

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

Well, when the boys strip our maple trees, they sure don't look like that.

Posted by: Mary's lesbian lover from Brattelboro, VT at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (wR+pz)

285 Time to go warm up get ready, won't be long now.

Posted by: Earl Turner and the Order at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (UjZK5)

286 I think "The Princess and the Pea" covered this territory quite nicely.

What is old is new again, nothing new under the sun, and so forth . . .

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (nnkXw)

287 My white 'rons and 'ettes, it appears the only way for y'all not to be "racist" if for y'all to just disappear off the face of the earth. Because you are racist just by looking a black person in the face - actually, just by breathing.
--------------------------
That's what I'm saying! We're racists!


With this much privilege floating around I guess it can't be any other way. Looks like mass suicide is the only option. On the other hand I hear 90% of us are "nasty" so maybe it's all for the best. What did white people ever do for civilization anyway?

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (8/DeP)

288 These folks are being chased by their own shadows.
Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 27, 2013 01:10 PM (Dwehj)


-------------------------------------------------


And shadows are totes black.

RACISSSSS!

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (IFLI+)

289 >>>Titties?

nailed it in one.

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (/IWYB)

290 I shall top you. Celine Dion covering ACDC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULmC8JTTVy0

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (LI48c)



*stands up, turns around and calmly runs out into traffic*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (da5Wo)

291 White people and rap music explained

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (8sCoq)

292 Since when are Japanese pedo bears "working class Black culture"?

Posted by: Sarahw at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (LYwCh)

293 Haldol, an antipsychotic drug for schizophrenia, can cause weird tongue thrusting

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (zOTsN)

294 He's not. I could never tell him, "Oh, that's JUST your taste." Well yes it is his taste. But not JUST his taste. There is a great deal of work involved in it.

And not to get credentialist but he's got the credentials, including from (this isn't the case but I'm trying to hide his identity) people who call him up for his opinion to evaluate their wares.


*************

Okay--if he is finding artists--masters while they are--


alive--more power to him.


If he's Frank Rich of the NYT.....

No go.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (r2PLg)

295 I thought the Guarani were pretty much wiped out after a little war in South America. So now most people in Paraguay who speaks Guarani are really of German descent?

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (SxI9Z)

296 he innovated the Pencil Test.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (/IWYB)

297 Prepare to be hammered by racism all day long.

Didn't Hammered By Racism open for Smashmouth in 2010?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (zF6Iw)

298 I thought she was imitating stripper culture am I right?

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

--------------------------

Strippers don't have culture. They have cocaine.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (CJjw5)

299
I think tweeting is owned by the white culture, so this Bogado lady (again sammich) is raaaaacist.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (lnFK0)

300
It was a white woman playing the saxaphone of a blues song that got her assaulted by two black women. Why? They said the song was "black" and shouldn't be played by a white person.

Sharpton Jackson along with white liberals....you've done one helluva job.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (G+Wff)

301 It took me quite a while to realize that the Bogado person wasn't being facetious.

Posted by: steevy at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (9XBK2)

302 Sorry, but anyone "concerned" with racism is automatically boring to me. When I hear "racism" I translate that directly into "false accusation" because it almost always is.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (TSf9W)

303 He was also the innovator who first said, "Hey, I kind of like them when they're different sizes. It's like having a menage a trois with just the one."

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (/IWYB)

304 Well, geez. I'm curious how these racial faux-connoisseurs feel about upwardly mobile blacks who have finally made their way into professions previously largely occupied by whites? Do they abhor the Civil Rights movement as some type of racial betrayal?

This tribal mentality, perpetrated by a class of lazy, self-important, underachieving, non-contributors is destroying the fabric of our country that was seemingly at the cusp of overcoming such prejudices. It's as if they like the friction, drama and hate that was seemingly on the verge of abolition.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (GGCsk)

305 So what these stupid bints are saying is "White people have no place in Black music." Is that right? Nice segregation you got going on there.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (Zswg6)

306 When I first heard Soul Provider by Michael Bolton, I thought he was black.

Rickrolling?

Stolen.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (T0NGe)

307 Strippers don't have culture. They have cocaine.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (CJjw5)



They also have titties.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (da5Wo)

308 And why all this outrage over Miley Cyrus, when it was MTV that broadcast it?

They escape with barely a mention, when they deserve a torch-bearing mob. These stunts always escape long-term consequences-- it's an early outrage, then eventual resurrection after tempers fade, and reap the resultant publicity.

Posted by: zsasz at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (MMC8r)

309
Haldol, an antipsychotic drug for schizophrenia, can cause weird tongue thrusting


Really? Do you know where I can score some?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (Lu41K)

310 >What did white people ever do for civilization anyway?

white people are just ripping red brown black and yellow people off

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:41 PM (8sCoq)

311 It was a white woman playing the saxaphone of a blues song that got her assaulted by two black women. Why? They said the song was "black" and shouldn't be played by a white person.

Racial copyright. Nice.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (T0NGe)

312 he innovated the Pencil Test.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (/IWYB)

------------------------------

Nice! Think you could get him to hook me up with a signed 8x10 glossy?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (CJjw5)

313 Her fee-unce-say must find the tongue porn sexy. He's an aussie.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (FnJUz)

314 Sorry, but anyone "concerned" with racism is automatically boring to me. When I hear "racism" I translate that directly into "false accusation" because it almost always is.

Fixed that.

Any *accusation* of racism is a false accusation. Why? Because any *actual* racism is self-evident, and does not require accusation at all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (/PCJa)

315 296 he innovated the Pencil Test.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (/IWYB)


*************


Howard Hughes is--dead.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

316 >Haldol, an antipsychotic drug for schizophrenia, can cause weird tongue thrusting


that's why I take Dammitol

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (8sCoq)

317 We stole fire from the gods.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (KXm42)

318
I am not white

I am melanin challenged

h8ters

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (zOTsN)

319 I thought the Guarani were pretty much wiped out after a little war in
South America. So now most people in Paraguay who speaks Guarani are
really of German descent?


Ten bucks says she's "Guarani" like Elizabeth Warren is "Native American".

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (IoTdl)

320 When I hear "racism" I translate that directly into "false accusation" because it almost always is.

It's virtually meaningless, like "hate."

When I hear the words hater or racist I automatically translate them into "someone I disagree with."

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (8/DeP)

321 We stole fire from the gods.
Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (KXm42)

And the way things are goin, they may want it back.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (XIxXP)

322 Outtakes from Miley's VMA rehearsals
http://preview.tinyurl.com/567se5

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (XG/4K)

323 It's honestly some type of sick nostalgia for racial tensions and despicable societal mores we discarded long ago.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (GGCsk)

324
281 I thought she was imitating stripper culture am I right? Needed a pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (E7Zh9)


She did that a few years earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tchax_Wyb4

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:43 PM (LI48c)

325 Isaw Stevie Wonder a few years ago and marveled at the integrated audience.

Shh! Don't tell him! Now you'll spoil it for all of us!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (zF6Iw)

326 Reading her other articles that Aura Bogoda gal seems like she would be a joy to be around.

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (fWAjv)

327 OK. So I finally decided to read past the first tweet, and all I have to say is: Dear Sweet Fancy Moses. These people are certifiable.
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (r+7wo)


{{{chelsea chique}}}

When the Connoisseurs of Race come knocking down my door to drag me off to prison for the crime of being pale as the pallid bust of Pallas in Poe's "The Raven," I promise I won't mention our twinship. Wouldn't want you getting tarred with the "collaborates with whites" brush!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)

328 Connoisseur is French for plonking which I can't find a formal definition for.

Someone trying to pass themselves off as a chess master who is playing against a chess master. They know they're going to get beaten quickly so they forfeit quickly saying something like,"You would have had checkmated in 4 moves." but they actually have no clue how many moves it would have taken.

There are books on it.

Ace did a post about it a while back.

Posted by: CozMark at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (gYPAF)

329 She was just exposing--

Disney Try-Outs.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (r2PLg)

330 Johnny Mathis and Nat King Cole owe me some fuckin' royalties for stealing my fucking musical heritage, yo.

Posted by: zsasz at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (MMC8r)

331 that's why I take Dammitol


Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:42 PM (8sCoq)

That stuff stopped working. I am now on Fukitol.

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (XG/4K)

332 I dunno. She thinks it's sexy or something? Like, "Look at my tongue! I can do all kinds of perverted things with it, wanna see?" I find it about as appealing as if she had popped out her eyeball and was swinging it around like a morningstar.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (4df7R)

First LOL of the morning.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (Tnlh/)

333
this is just the bizarre universe "one drop" rule

they are obsessed with race. Its the prism through which they see everything

Posted by: thunderb at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (zOTsN)

334 It was a white woman playing the saxaphone of a blues song that got her
assaulted by two black women. Why? They said the song was "black" and
shouldn't be played by a white person.


Saxophone was invented by a white man (a Walloon living in Paris).

So no more using it in "black music."

O_O

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (/kI1Q)

335 Aura laid down the " trigger" card again, which is her part of the monopoly deck that makes her unaccountable for anything stupid or ill informed she might venture to say. It's the ultimate J'accuse in her quiver of rubber arrows.

Posted by: Sarahw at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (LYwCh)

336 Purp that case is a damning indictment of current Western humanity.

She told her homies after she came back, "Oh just ignore the blood on me dudes..." And they did. WTF????

So many people desperate to have a baby to love and this bint just tosses a human baby away like trash so she can still have a good time. It is very evil and wrong of me, but damn wish she had bled to death. Then she would have been at the Pearly Gates facing St. Peter at the same time her baby arrived. The Heavenly PPV of the beat down St. Peter would have been delivered would have been so awesome to see.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (SxI9Z)

337 We stole fire from the gods.

Poor Prometheus. Hey, it's not like he took it away and the Gods didn't have it anymore. He simply copied it. (Cue digital music can't be stolen rants.)

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (IoTdl)

338 To Bogado, Nostasio, and Rosen;

The next time your choice of things to do today is either write victim industry drivel or masturbate ..

Choose masturbation

Posted by: kbdabear at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (/9IC1)

339 Van Morrison , now that is one black , white dude .
Check out his " Gloria" with John Lee Hooker .

Posted by: awkward davies at August 27, 2013 01:45 PM (WK8VM)

340 Two days ago I had no idea what "twerking" was.

It was a more innocent era.

Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2013 01:46 PM (zoehZ)

341 Needed a pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:38 PM (E7Zh9)


Pretty sure Robin Thicke was providing that.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:46 PM (4df7R)

342
When I first heard Soul Provider by Michael Bolton, I thought he was black.

--
Wait, Michael ISN'T black?

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at August 27, 2013 01:46 PM (SO2Q8)

343 So basically Miley Cyrus is imitating actual musicians in the hope that some of the talent will rub off on her? It's as good a theory as any...

Posted by: joncelli at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (RD7QR)

344 Reading her other articles that Aura Bogoda gal seems like she would be a joy to be around.

Bitter from cradle to grave is no way to go through life.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (Dwehj)

345 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think about how superior I am.

Posted by: Anna Bogado at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (klzyR)

346 307 Strippers don't have culture. They have cocaine.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:40 PM (CJjw5)


They also have titties.


Wait till I tell Mary!

Posted by: Mary's lesbian lover from Brattelboro, VT at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (wR+pz)

347 >>>Okay--if he is finding artists--masters while they are--
alive--more power to him

well, look, I have done this an awful lot myself, but I think it's just kind of dumb to DENY that entire sectors of human learning or expertise exist at all. Like:

Psychology? Bullshit.
Art? Bullshit.
Music? Bullshit.
Theater? Bullshit.
Literature? Bullshit.

And so on. I mean it's kind of fun pose, but... eh, I don't think it's a good way to think. I think the lure of Denying Everyone Else's Abilities and Education is too strong, too comforting, too delicious, and should be resisted.

I don't know how serious you are and how much an act you're putting on (as I don't know how serious I was when I used to do this all the time), but I do think this is something that hurts conservatives, because conservatism winds up being sort of pro-philistinism and pro-know-nothingism.

At some point skepticism turns to cynicism and cynicism turns into a wholesale denial of entire swathes of learning and experience.

Anyway I'm not really ragging on you per se. As I keep saying, I've done this a lot. I still do it.

But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."





Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)

348 I shall top you. Celine Dion covering ACDC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULmC8JTTVy0
Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (LI48c)


I shall top you. Pat Boone covering Ronnie James Dio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmcrXNuCwg

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (zF6Iw)

349 *stands up, turns around and calmly runs out into traffic*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 27, 2013 01:39 PM (da5Wo)


I gave you a nice thing.


It's because I'm better.


I am so damn tempted to bust out the alter ego because if any thread deserve it, it's this one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (VtjlW)

350 The peanut was invented by George Washington Carver, a known black man.

I go to the store these days, and what do I see? Cans of Planter's peanuts. You know where Planters do their business?


On plantations.

When I pop the top on that can of peanuts, that hiss of air sounds to me like the sharp intake of breath made by an enslaved black, as he clings to the whipping post and bears down on the pain the lash inflicts on his tortured flesh; rebelling in the only way he knows how - by denying his cruel overseer the music of his screams.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (CJjw5)

351 344 Reading her other articles that Aura Bogoda gal seems like she would be a joy to be around.

Bitter from cradle to grave is no way to go through life.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 27, 2013 0


Iron my shirt, BITCH.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (wR+pz)

352 I happen to know a connoisseur. I won't say of what. I will say it's the sort of connoisseurship you guys would respect. And given he's an acknowledged leader in his field of expertise, I could never say, "Oh, he's just FAKING his refinement of taste."


-----------------------------------------------


Ah. A fellow titteh connoisseur. Don't worry, Ace. He's among friends here.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (IFLI+)

353 343

I guess that explains her rubbing all over Robin Thicke.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Stinky Sockpuppets at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (GmTxn)

354 Who wants to talk to me first? Mr. Hall or Mr. Oates?

Posted by: Racial Justice Consultant at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (/Mla1)

355 We don't have Black people in VT.

Posted by: Mary's lesbian lover from Brattelboro, VT at August 27, 2013 01:29 PM (wR+pz)

It's all the effing snow. That and no public transportation.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (28TG+)

356
This all starts in colleges with the black studies and women's studies departments. The people that take this as their major graduate with no job skills. They go into an interview with that on their resume and 99% of employers will laugh at them.

So they need to create an industry to give these degrees some sort of value.

Posted by: i rule u drool at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (YV/s9)

357
basically Miley Cyrus is imitating actual musicians in the hope that some of the talent will rub off on her?


Pretty sure that the talent has been rubbing off on her for quite some time.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (Lu41K)

358 Geez, I dunno. I kind of think if it were possible for a race to own something that they'd be delighted someone was taking twerking off their hands.

Posted by: Cameron at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (OZa6k)

359 It was a more innocent era.

Do not google Minnesota Hotpocket.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (KXm42)

360 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think, "Hey! She did it again!"

Posted by: Anna Bogado at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (klzyR)

361 So, if you don't like this tribalism crap, spend your time at dinners celebrating mathematicians, not musicians.

Posted by: Anchovy at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (7Dbui)

362 Why can't Disney simply open an exhibit at one of their themes parks where all their former stars can express their adolescent angst? They could stock it with a stripper pole, drug paraphernalia and skimpy, revealing clothes.

Then they could twerk, jerk and snort until their hearts are content without bothering normal people.

Just a suggestion.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (GGCsk)

363 Stop me if you've heard this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1DC-3G0wcU

Posted by: Ava Pagoda at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (6xhLc)

364 "Justin Timberlake, who has been busy whitewashing RB for over a decade..."

Not that they've ever been accused of anywhere near a modicum of self-awareness, folks who can make this kind of complaint with a straight face still surprise me.

You would think Jackie Robinson was the villain of the movie '42' for having the unmitigated gall to 'darken' the game of baseball. Who did he think he was?!1one!eleventy!11!

Just unbelievable.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (tWmgi)

365 First they came for the racist analinguist strippers, and I said nothing...

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 01:50 PM (LSJmV)

366 I find it about as appealing as if she had popped out her eyeball and was swinging it around like a morningstar.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:33 PM (4df7R)



While not appealing, that sounds very hardcore.

Though on further thought, that doesn't sound like a very effective weapon. It is intimidating though.

"Don't get close - she might give you rabies or whatever crazy she's on."

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:50 PM (v3pYe)

367 When I pop the top on that can of peanuts, that hiss of air sounds to me like the sharp intake of breath made by an enslaved black, as he clings to the whipping post and bears down on the pain the lash inflicts on his tortured flesh; rebelling in the only way he knows how - by denying his cruel overseer the music of his screams.

Now that was some good shit there.

Course, all that shit is printed in the Master's language in BLACK!

Take that MFers

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 01:50 PM (wR+pz)

368 In the future, everyone will be racist for 15 minutes.

Posted by: Andy Whorewall at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (HYFht)

369 ...which isn't to say one should agree with the current tastemakers, of course.

But like if you knock art -- if you say that art is just crap and awful -- well, true, but not ALL art. Just the crap that the current crop of leftist assholes are champinoning.

You could read, say, Camille Paglia, to get a more classic take on art that insists that art should exhibit things like "talent" and "craft" and "ambition," and not just be some whimsical throw-together some asshole made out of two trashcans and a piggy bank bust of George Bush.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (/IWYB)

370 361

But math is racist.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Stinky Sockpuppets at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (GmTxn)

371 I like Prog Rock.

In the entire history of Prog there's maybe a dozen people of color. And the drummer for Genesis, (no, not HIM, the OTHER one,) Chester Thompson, wasn't even an official member (cause Genesis were rayciss.)

So, I once again denounce myself.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (7ObY1)

372 But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any skill
I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."


Dilbert's Boss: I don't know how to do this so it must be easy.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (KXm42)

373 So, if you don't like this tribalism crap, spend your time at dinners celebrating mathematicians, not musicians.
Posted by: Anchovy at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (7Dbui)


That would just encourage the tribalism.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (4df7R)

374 OK, I'm raced out. Nice work today kids, later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (XIxXP)

375
"I'd also note this: Several of the authors seem mad because whites have
taken over 'traditionally African-American' categories or some such."

I'm old enough to remember when some opera fanatics were pissed off that Leontyne Price and Marian Anderson were singing opera and blowing audiences away. The knuckleheads muttered that they should stick with their own "jungle" music. These assholes are cut from exactly the same cloth.

Bigots. Every generation grows a new crop of them.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (VrNoa)

376 It wasn't sunny today, but cloudy instead, because RACISM.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (VndSC)

377 Anyway I'm not really ragging on you per se. As I keep saying, I've done this a lot. I still do it.

But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."





Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)

***************


Don't get mad but anything that predicts human behavior is--

an art form.

btw--I like to debate--that's all it is.

I'm frwanch like that.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:51 PM (r2PLg)

378 Yes, because Miley Ray Cyrus sat in her home, wondering how she could "stick it to the blacks" in her performance prep.

You fucking people are THE BIGGEST RACISTS the world has ever known. It's truly only a matter of time before you start taking to the streets and killing every whitey you see.

I'm serious, you guys.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (xmcEQ)

379 The one picture of Anna Patricia C. Bogado I am finding, she looks pure European.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (SxI9Z)

380 i thought it was rather pathetic that the skinny white girl who couldn't keep her tongue in her mouth and hand off of her vagina stomped around breathlessly and her mother, who was there, didn't yank her off stage and beat herPosted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM (8JJ6O)EXACTLY. Her mom sat there in the audience applauding, and these people aren't complaining about this and the effect it will have on her young fans. I'm nearing 40 and to this day, if I wore shorts as short as the girls I see walking around, my mom would beat the living daylights out of me. And I would thank her for it.

Posted by: shinypie at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (Kz85k)

381 When I pop the top on that can of peanuts, that hiss of air sounds to me like the sharp intake of breath made by an enslaved black, as he clings to the whipping post and bears down on the pain the lash inflicts on his tortured flesh; rebelling in the only way he knows how - by denying his cruel overseer the music of his screams.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 01:48 PM (CJjw5)



Sir, you are a poet.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (sGtp+)

382 364 "Justin Timberlake, who has been busy whitewashing RB for over a decade..."

Not that they've ever been accused of anywhere near a modicum of self-awareness, folks who can make this kind of complaint with a straight face still surprise me.

You would think Jackie Robinson was the villain of the movie '42' for having the unmitigated gall to 'darken' the game of baseball. Who did he think he was?!1one!eleventy!11!

Just unbelievable.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (tWmgi)

Yeah...

The spirit of chaos is becoming more prevalent.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (Tnlh/)

383 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)

Lol, my pale one. I shall never deny you, my sweet sister, even in the face of crazy racism connoisseurs!

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (r+7wo)

384 >The peanut was invented by George Washington Carver, a known black man.



I can't stop laughing at this

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (8sCoq)

385

More Cheesesteak, Less Hate

A Philly cheesesteak at Joe’s comes with a side of justice.

by Aura Bogado - Colorlines.com August 16 2013

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (kdS6q)

386 "Don't get close - she might give you rabies or whatever crazy she's on."

Isn't that an old New Yorker trick. ace should know this one. If you're in a situation where you feel threatened, just act balls-out crazy. Even tough guys will back away from crazy.

The problem is that all of New York sucks, and feel threatening all the time. So people can't stop. 99% of the crazies found out they really are crazy.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (IoTdl)

387 "I find it about as appealing as if she had popped out her eyeball and was swinging it around like a morningstar."

You joke, but some no-talent "artist" will be doing this on stage at the VMAs by 2016. Hell, maybe a backup dancer will saw off his member and stick it in the socket during the guitar solo.

Shock. It's the new talent.

Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (4I3Uo)

388 So, if you don't like this tribalism crap, spend your time at dinners celebrating mathematicians, not musicians.



Ahhhh, the old slide rule tribe!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (E7Zh9)

389 So, why not do a YouTube skit of fake Connoisseurs of Racism, each one-uping the other on their skills of detecting the most subtle of racism--using the exact words and phrases these fools have used.

Seriously.

A bunch of lily-white folks in turtlenecks and sweaters using these exact phrases in a most concerned tone would be damned funny. Even have them swishing wine in a glass through most of the skit. A fire in the fireplace in the background, reflections of the flames dancing off the deep mahogany paneling. Maybe eating cheese, too.

Then at the end, you could give credit to the actual script-writers.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (VjL9S)

390 Lol, my pale one. I shall never deny you, my sweet sister, even in the face of crazy racism connoisseurs!
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (r+7wo)


*fist bump!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (4df7R)

391 I think the lure of Denying Everyone Else's Abilities and Education is
too strong, too comforting, too delicious, and should be resisted.


Not a lot of space between "I don't understand your painting so it's SHIT!" and "you're only more successful than me because WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (/kI1Q)

392 re 369: Ace, if it's art, it definitely isn't crap.

Posted by: mallfly at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (bJm7W)

393 But, but- I like peanut butter. Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (GGCsk)

394 >The peanut was invented by George Washington Carver, a known black man.

He just happened to be black.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (KXm42)

395 IOW--

it's objective vs. subjective.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (r2PLg)

396 You joke, but some no-talent "artist" will be doing this on stage at the VMAs by 2016. Hell, maybe a backup dancer will saw off his member and stick it in the socket during the guitar solo.Shock. It's the new talent.
Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (4I3Uo)


Mayonnaise enemas: they're about to go mainstream.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:55 PM (4df7R)

397 The problem is that all of New York sucks, and feel threatening all the time. So people can't stop. 99% of the crazies found out they really are crazy.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 01:53 PM (IoTdl)



Perhaps the instinctual aversion has some truth to it. You can get crazy on you, and then you go crazy.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:55 PM (v3pYe)

398 In 1973, we had "Midnight Train to Georgia" from Gladys Knight and the Pips.

In 2013, we get this from Drake:

I touched down in '86
Knew I was a man by the age of 6
I even fucked the girl that used to babysit
But that was years later on some crazy shit
.....
Ain't no wishing over on this side
Y'all don't fuck with' us and we don't fuck with' y'all, it's no different over on this side
God damn
Should I listen to everybody or myself?
Cause myself just told myself, "You the motherfuckin' man, you don't need no help"

Can't you just smell the RB?

Posted by: B at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (XyoGP)

399 So, what is with ace commenting on his own blog?

I thought he owned this Twitter company or something?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (wR+pz)

400 I'm finally back on line. Installed a new Wi-Fi network with password encryption that works. Now lets see if my code changed.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (zZbNF)

401 Speaking of Nat King Cole, I was watching a movie that had him singing in the background. Do not know the song, but it was fucking smooth.

I mean smooth.

My usual taste is more Dave Mustaine.

Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (jI23+)

402 I can't stop laughing at this

Me either.

Posted by: Jimmah Carter, ex-peanut farmer at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (Dwehj)

403 ...which isn't to say one should agree with the current tastemakers, of course.

I haven't been in much of this discussion, but I think there's a difference (and a pretty big one) between an expert and a connoisseur.

The latter is condescending and annoying, and exists to "put you in your place." The former has truly perfected (or as close as can be) his "art." The quick way to tell the difference is that the connoisseur will say things like "it takes a refined palette" where the expert says things like, "here, let me show you..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (/PCJa)

404 391 I think the lure of Denying Everyone Else's Abilities and Education is too strong, too comforting, too delicious, and should be resisted.

Not a lot of space between "I don't understand your painting so it's SHIT!" and "you're only more successful than me because WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 01:54 PM (/kI1Q)



Maybe it's like those impossible Escher paintings. See? Art!

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (v3pYe)

405 And... now I have a meeting.

Yay me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (/PCJa)

406 Yep, it changed and I am not a sock folks.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 01:57 PM (zZbNF)

407 Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)

I think it's a double-edged sword. From my observations, the connoisseurs become mocked and discounted when they adopt the attitude that due to their connoissuerism, that deep understanding or knowledge of a single topic, they are thus not only somehow innately better humans than the unwashed ignorants, but that they are also inherently deeply understanding or knowledgeable of all topics.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 27, 2013 01:57 PM (L8r/r)

408 You know, I had to google up this Bogado womyn.

No doubt a graduate of Wesley or Smith and on a trust fund life of joy.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 01:57 PM (wR+pz)

409 Purp that case is a damning indictment of current Western humanity.

Its worldwide. Lotta people these days that are just kinda blank. They can be rich, poor, ignorant, or educated, you look into them and there's just nothing there.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp at August 27, 2013 01:57 PM (2BHYC)

410 Here's a question--

What Krugman and Friedman do at the NYT--is that science or more opinion--art?

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (r2PLg)

411 >>>Don't get mad but anything that predicts human behavior is--



an art form.


very true, but then, medicine is an art form.

Not everything can be reduced to hard science. In many fields, there are simply too many unknowns and too many things which cannot be measured.

In such areas, we have two choices:

Do nothing at all, for we will never understand the area with a scientific level of rigor;

or at least construct a system of guesses, observed tendencies, syndromes, etc. A much "fuzzier" form of science (that's why it's soft science), but then, all actual hard science began, long ago, as soft science.

What I'm doing right now -- arguing with you -- is not a hard science but that doesn't mean it's without value.



Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (/IWYB)

412 white people are just ripping red brown black and yellow people off

***

Specially those Greek homos.

Posted by: Reverend Al at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (XUKZU)

413 Speaking of Nat King Cole, I was watching a movie that had him singing in the background. Do not know the song, but it was fucking smooth. I mean smooth. My usual taste is more Dave Mustaine.
Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (jI23+)


Nat King Cole's voice makes me shiver. He had such a gorgeous voice. "Nature Boy" is a song that I could listen to a hundred times in a row wihtout tiring of it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (4df7R)

414 Y'all racist fo even writin about this

Posted by: Rev Jesse MLK Sharpton Evers at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (vYB+W)

415 401 Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (jI23+)


Nat has been in a LOT of movies. And yes, he was smooth. I have a double album of his with greatest hits and a few singles I downloaded.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (zZbNF)

416 About a year or two ago, ace brought up twerking. He refused to post the video but did throw up a link. Besides being disgusting, the woman doing it was in her underwear and her 3 year old son kept running up to her. Why would you do that in the presence of your children??

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (FnJUz)

417 What Krugman and Friedman do at the NYT--is that science or more opinion--art?

***

Or is it real subtle satire?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 01:59 PM (XUKZU)

418 I shall top you. Celine Dion covering ACDC

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 01:36 PM (LI48c)



NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1111!!!!

Please God Help ME.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 27, 2013 01:59 PM (28TG+)

419 @398

Still rhymed better than anything Steve Miller ever did. Just sayin, yo.

Posted by: Cameron at August 27, 2013 01:59 PM (OZa6k)

420 I think it's terrible that blacks (and others) are using electricity, which was invented by white people.

Posted by: TallDave at August 27, 2013 01:59 PM (/s1LA)

421 "the cultural appropriation of working class Black culture."

Um, really? They really want to claim this embarrassing attention-whoring cesspool spectacle and say it represents a white artist stealing Black culture? That's what they consider "working class Black culture"? Which means that if a black person had performed that horrific little number it would have been okay and somehow not a tasteless mess? That's honestly one of the saddest things I've seen in recent memory.

Posted by: MojoRojo at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (eDHo4)

422 So 'queer' is ok again? I give it 5 years before 'colored' makes a comebackand replaces African American as the descriptor of choice.

Posted by: Joe at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (7pOq5)

423 The spirit of chaos is becoming more prevalent.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 01:52 PM (Tnlh/)


-------------------------------------------


The spirit of chaos. I like that. I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (IFLI+)

424
Speaking of Nat King Cole, I was watching a movie that had him singing in the background. Do not know the song, but it was fucking smooth.

Check out Sam Cooke: 'Live at the Copa'. Great Record.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (Lu41K)

425 Specially those Greek homos.

Posted by: Reverend Al at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (XUKZU)

Don't forget those assholes in Hymie town.

Posted by: The Rev Jesse at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (wR+pz)

426 I was taught by an economist that had a nationally syndicated column--he informed a lot of my--opinion but then--we are both--how shall I say this--

honest.

He's probably dead by now--so he was honest--maybe because he knew he was dying.

(and with that I am off.)

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (r2PLg)

427 that deep understanding or knowledge of a single topic, they are thus not only somehow innately better humans than the unwashed ignorants, but that they are also inherently deeply understanding or knowledgeable of all topics.
Posted by: Country Singer at August 27, 2013 01:57 PM (L8r/r)



*lightbulb of sudden realization*

By God... THAT'S IT.

JOURNALISTS ARE CONNOISSEURS OF OMNISCIENCE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (4df7R)

428 Every time I see @MileyCyrus slap that black woman's butt, I think...

Shouldn't that be "African American woman's butt," you racist?

Posted by: Speedy Gonzalez at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (klzyR)

429 Don't look now, but most of the current Treasury Market is trading "special".

I'm pretty sure that's a racist codeword.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (GGCsk)

430 Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (9Xc5j)

431 BTW, my favorite was Lazy Hazy Days of Summer. They used to play that in the morning theater while we were waiting for the movie to start.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (zZbNF)

432 But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)



I don't know. When I see people who are able to do things that I could never do, things like pediatric neurosurgery or getting the mugs off the second shelf, I'm pretty damn impressed and think "Wow. That's an amazing thing they can do." I don't think it's not a skill merely because it's something that I cannot do or because it's in an area in which I lack expertise.

I do agree that everyone tends to think the areas in which they are skilled are the most important evah omg. I would also agree that credentialism is creeping into everything. It's not enough to hey I like cooking I'm going to watch some Rachel Ray. Now it's all turned up nose how dare you watch something so very common as that. Why, how can you say you cook when you don't grow your own herbs and local source artisinal heirloom organic vegetables. The push back on that is screw you I'm going to eat solely off the dollar menu.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (VtjlW)

433 Re: Stripper culture

Miley already did a pole dance at Kid's Choice Awards show.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (UrtRh)

434 430
Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (9Xc5j)

Playboy is too tame. She has already got a self-made porno out on the internet and it is easy to find.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (zZbNF)

435 Hold up ace, I'ma let you speak but ...

I agree that a lot of the Miley Cirus crap is a ripoff of black hip hop culture.

And I vote we give it back.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (g1DWB)

436 ...and as much as I hate the Liberal Douchbag, Belafonte had some fuckin' pipes.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (Lu41K)

437 Nat has been in a LOT of movies. And yes, he was smooth. I have a double album of his with greatest hits and a few singles I downloaded.
Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (zZbNF)


--------------------------------------------------


Meh. Nat's got nothin' over Lou Rawls.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (IFLI+)

438 I haven't been in much of this discussion, but I think there's a difference (and a pretty big one) between an expert and a connoisseur.

The latter is condescending and annoying, and exists to "put you in your place." The former has truly perfected (or as close as can be) his "art." The quick way to tell the difference is that the connoisseur will say things like "it takes a refined palette" where the expert says things like, "here, let me show you..."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (/PCJa)



I don't think that's it. The expert is able to do; the connoisseur is able to identify the expertise of the expert.

Being a connoisseur is an expertise of its own, but it is different than being an expert in the field of question. That doesn't mean the connoisseur is useless - he's acting as a sort of information broker.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (oY6Yp)

439 >430
Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?<

Because that's not enduring or shocking enough.

Maybe they have a room for her next to Amanda Bynes.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (GGCsk)

440 I was taught by an economist that had a nationally syndicated column--he informed a lot of my--opinion but then--we are both--how shall I say this--

honest.



I use to teach Econ. Give me my assumptions and I'll prove to you any fucking thing you want.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (wR+pz)

441 Nat King Cole's voice makes me shiver. He had such a gorgeous voice. "Nature Boy" is a song that I could listen to a hundred times in a row wihtout tiring of it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (4df7R)

It breaks my heart to tell you this, O beloved twin, but this statement makes you racist.

*sobs*

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (r+7wo)

442 How far back the outrage goes? Taco putting on the Ritz with some blackface performers.
http://youtu.be/OG3PnQ3tgzY

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (SxI9Z)

443 152--- stuffed the baby into a garbage bag before placing the body in the tank of a toilet. She and her friends stayed another hour in the pub and only later was the dead baby found as the bathroom was cleaned.

http://tinyurl.com/lgd5w7a
Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 01:21 PM (SxI9Z)
----------------------
Practicing medicine without a license, I guess.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (C8mVl)

444 FLASHBACK: Pelosi Visits Assad In Syria, Tells Him “We Came In Friendship, Hope, And Peace”…

Hum? That did not work so good in that Mars Movie ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (9Xc5j)

445 "I do think this is something that hurts conservatives, because
conservatism winds up being sort of pro-philistinism and
pro-know-nothingism."

Ace, I'd like for you to expand on this thought a bit. Not only have I noticed this, but (perhaps to a larger extent), I've also noticed that this is the perception of conservatives as people, whether it's the case or not.

There are likely a variety of factors (religiosity, hard work, simple living, etc.) but I'm not sure I could appropriately assign percentages to each factor. I think it would be worth a post if you've got a larger opinion of why it's not just a perception of the Left but a reality among some in the conservative community (particularly when conservatism requires an understanding/grasp of issues that so many have not exhibited).

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (tWmgi)

446 So, what is with ace commenting on his own blog?


He must have had an off night hobo hunting.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (E7Zh9)

447 Nat King Cole's voice makes me shiver. He had such a gorgeous voice. "Nature Boy" is a song that I could listen to a hundred times in a row wihtout tiring of it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (4df7R)

"Unforgettable" was our wedding song. I suppose I should denounce myself now for that racist expropriation of black culture.

Posted by: rockmom at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (NYnoe)

448 JOURNALISTS ARE CONNOISSEURS OF OMNISCIENCE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:00 PM (4df7R)

I was actually thinking "liberals" when I wrote that, so yeah, we're on the same page, lol.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 27, 2013 02:04 PM (L8r/r)

449
430 Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (9Xc5j)


They won't let her bring the pedo bears along.

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 02:04 PM (LI48c)

450 So, what is with ace commenting on his own blog?

He just got unbanned.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 02:04 PM (zF6Iw)

451 Miley should have just gone out with a mattress strapped to her back and a sign that said, Empowered Feminist.

Posted by: Invictus at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (OQpzc)

452 AlextheChick its a very screwed up version of envy.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (SxI9Z)

453 Every time I see a light-bulb it makes me hate the bastards that use my race's idea for their own betterment.

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (GGCsk)

454 Posted by: B at August 27, 2013 01:56 PM (XyoGP)

He rhymed "six" with "eighty-six".

Genius.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (T0NGe)

455 432 But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)


So, is ace saying twerking is a skill and it is egotistical of us to call it crap?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (FnJUz)

456 When I see people who are able to do things that I could never do,
things like pediatric neurosurgery or getting the mugs off the second
shelf, I'm pretty damn impressed and think "Wow. That's an amazing
thing they can do."



You could always ask Karl Urban to lift you up there with his well-sculpted arms.


Speaking of Karl, I just realized this not too long ago. I saw an old movie of his, from a little while back called "The Price of Milk". Have you seen it?

Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (GQ8sn)

457 @442 Taco Black face?

How far back? Start here.


http://tinyurl.com/6fqql89

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (wR+pz)

458
But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any
skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."



Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:47 PM (/IWYB)

I suffer from envy in my own wheelhouse more than take it to others in their respective fields. Example: I fancy myself a better writer than Stephanie Meyer and yet she's the one with millions of dollars.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (tWmgi)

459 He just got unbanned.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 02:04 PM (zF6Iw)



Never not be funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (VtjlW)

460 439 >430
Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?

Because that's not enduring or shocking enough.


Because it's not "mainstream" culture.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (T0NGe)

461 WAR DRUMS: IRAN THREATENS ISRAEL
'FIRST VICTIM' OF STRIKE ON SYRIA

Hum? So obama strikes Syria and then Iran and Hexbellah strike Israel and obama asks Israel to hold back and not to act disproportionally ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (9Xc5j)

462 Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 01:49 PM (GGCsk)

I'd pay a dollar to see that.


Wait. Can't we see that NOW on TMZ?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (28TG+)

463 Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2013 02:01 PM (9Xc5j)


Are you kidding? Even Al Goldstein wouldn't touch that diseased skank.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (zF6Iw)

464 "Why doens't Miley Cyrus just strip bare and pose for playboy and get it over with?"

Playboy? We've blown past Playboy without even tapping the brakes. She's far more likely to end up on the Bang Bus.

Posted by: Jaws at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (4I3Uo)

465 an art form.


very true, but then, medicine is an art form.

Not everything can be reduced to hard science. In many fields, there are simply too many unknowns and too many things which cannot be measured.

In such areas, we have two choices:

Do nothing at all, for we will never understand the area with a scientific level of rigor;

or at least construct a system of guesses, observed tendencies, syndromes, etc. A much "fuzzier" form of science (that's why it's soft science), but then, all actual hard science began, long ago, as soft science.

What I'm doing right now -- arguing with you -- is not a hard science but that doesn't mean it's without value.



Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 01:58 PM (/IWYB)


*******************

I very much get your point--but Democrats worship at the altar of the soft sciences as if they are--proven.


They also like to ignore precedence--so I think it is worth shooting holes or taking down their Demi-Gods if you get what I mean.

I don't see a way to fight their mythologies without doing that.

The problem with Democrats--the huge problem is that they think they can usurp everything that has been tested by time with their pie in the sky hypotheses.

Posted by: tasker at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (r2PLg)

466 The latter is condescending and annoying, and exists to "put you in your place." The former has truly perfected (or as close as can be) his "art."

I don't think so. I would view an expert as someone who has a great deal of knowledge, whereas a connosseuir is one who has a great deal of insight. The two are not mutually exclusive, of course, but I expect that you would find an expert to tell you about great works of art, whereas it is the connosseuir who finds the NEXT great artist.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (4df7R)

467 Two words that should be banished from the language are "inappropriate" and "offended" as in "I am offended by your inappropriate language..."

They are the perfect expressions of the PC solipsism: facts need not be discussed, as the (unnamed) shared assumptions of the collectively-correct-thinking have been transgressed.

Posted by: NYC Parent at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (HEo6y)

468 "the cultural appropriation of working class Black culture."

Um, really? They really want to claim this embarrassing attention-whoring cesspool spectacle and say it represents a white artist stealing Black culture?

The sad truth is that, yes, white Americans have appropriated a lot of "black culture." None of it has improved culture overall. None of it.

Posted by: CJ at August 27, 2013 02:07 PM (9KqcB)

469 But I do think there's an ego-based temptation to sort of say "Any

skill I don't have is a crap skill and maybe not really a skill at all."

***

I'm not envious of anybody because, as an attorney, I run the world. Just ask Amishdude.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (XUKZU)

470 452 AlextheChick its a very screwed up version of envy.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:05 PM (SxI9Z)



Those grapes are sour. You can tell by the hue of the grape skin, and their aroma at ground level.

Posted by: Fox at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (v3pYe)

471 WAR DRUMS: IRAN THREATENS ISRAEL
'FIRST VICTIM' OF STRIKE ON SYRIA



War drums? That sounds ray ciss.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (E7Zh9)

472 If you want to know how far these bozos will go, my alma matter once had the school paper start a fuss over whether to air a pornographic film in a class room. Why? One of the writers wanted to discuss whether some pirate porno was racist or something.

Posted by: Shoot Me at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM (qiXMt)

473 When I hear the term 'I am offended' it is automatically translated into 'I must whine!'

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM (SxI9Z)

474 You could always ask Karl Urban to lift you up there with his well-sculpted arms.

A very cromulent suggestion indeed.


Speaking of Karl, I just realized this not too long ago. I saw an old movie of his, from a little while back called "The Price of Milk". Have you seen it?
Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM (GQ8sn)


I have not seen that! *scurries to add to queue*

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM (VtjlW)

475 It breaks my heart to tell you this, O beloved twin, but this statement makes you racist.
*sobs*

Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at August 27, 2013 02:03 PM (r+7wo)



*weeps* Why? WHY was I born with such a cold, icy heart? WHY was I steeped in the culture of racism, such that it has stained my very SOUL?

*shaking fists at sky* WHYYYYYYY?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM (4df7R)

476 My favorite Tweet on the subject by Iowahawk;

>If an ex-child star wants to really go for shock value, they should get an engineering degree.— <

Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (GGCsk)

477
True Story.....(well, synopsis there of) of a conversation I recently had a black friend of mine.


Her: I went to an all black college, majored in Black Studies. I watch BET, I like black music, black culture, balck arts... black black black black.

Me: ".... not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Her: You got that riiiiight!!!!!

Me: How can I do that when you continually set yourself apart as black??

Her: You Raaacist Honky White Privileged Living Redneck Cracker.

Me: ..... nevermind.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (nELVU)

478 Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:06 PM

Before that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_song

Posted by: Ava Pagoda at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (6xhLc)

479 WAR DRUMS: IRAN THREATENS ISRAEL

'FIRST VICTIM' OF STRIKE ON SYRIA



Hum? So obama strikes Syria and then Iran and Hexbellah strike
Israel and obama asks Israel to hold back and not to act
disproportionally ?

***

Obozo has skillfully strategized himself into a no-win situation. Next, blundering into WWIII.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (XUKZU)

480 I'm not envious of anybody because, as an attorney, I run the world. Just ask Amishdude.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (XUKZU)


Wait, I thought that was the Illuminati?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (4df7R)

481 War Drums?

Fuck, everyone is having such a good time out here, do we have to come back?

Posted by: Martha Vineyard Dickheads at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (wR+pz)

482 I'm afraid I cant take too seriously the pronouncements of someone named "Aura"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (gTN+E)

483 So inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist?
Well then.

Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (jA+VS)

484 Life is getting stilted. You have to think about everything you're going to say, before you say it, from too many perspectives. People are just going to keep quiet and say nothing.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (/b8+5)

485 Playboy's way too classy for that skank.

Their layouts are practically demure.

Posted by: eleven at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (KXm42)

486 Ohhhh shit, Russian Deputy Premier brings the WAYYYYCIS!!


http://tinyurl.com/md5jy57


MOSCOW, August 27 (RIA Novosti) – A firebrand Russian nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday that the West was acting in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand grenade

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (fWAjv)

487 *weeps* Why? WHY was I born with such a cold, icy heart? WHY was I steeped in the culture of racism, such that it has stained my very SOUL?

*shaking fists at sky* WHYYYYYYY?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM (4df7R)



Now concentrate those feelings into a dark ball of hate.

Good. You have tasted the power of the Dark Side.

Posted by: Sith Lord, Not That One at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (oY6Yp)

488 >If an ex-child star wants to really go for shock value, they should get an engineering degree.— <
Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (GGCsk)


Case in point: Danica McKellar.

BTW, I would pay good money for a movie or TV show where Danica McKellar and Summer Glau are sisters. They look eerily similar.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (4df7R)

489 Would now be a bad time to talk about pants down past the ass, showing me said ass?

Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (jI23+)

490 Word on the street is that Ace is a connoisseur of fine twerking.

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (LSJmV)

491 South Park did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcwyOaYyu7Y

Posted by: real joe at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (XG/4K)

492 Wait, I thought that was the Illuminati?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (4df7R)


We bought them.

Posted by: The Biderberg Group at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (wR+pz)

493 Next, blundering into WWIII.


Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (XUKZU)

----
Blundering????
Im convinced we're running at top sprint speed into it..... on fucking purpose.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (nELVU)

494 482 I'm afraid I cant take too seriously the pronouncements of someone named "Aura"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (gTN+E)

that's how i feel about someone called "caustic"

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (8JJ6O)

495 133
i thought it was rather pathetic that the skinny white girl who couldn't
keep her tongue in her mouth and hand off of her vagina stomped around
breathlessly and her mother, who was there, didn't yank her off stage
and beat her

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 01:19 PM

That's because mom and her has-been dad are making a shitload of money off Miley's crack whore act

Posted by: kbdabear at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (/9IC1)

496 So inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist?
Well then.
Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (jA+VS)



I just had to slap both hands over my mouth due to the laughing so loudly.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (VtjlW)

497

The air of Racist Denial abounds ...

Long-legged Mr. Peanut carries a cane and wears a top hat, gloves ... and spats !11 SPATS!!!!-ty He's practically a walking minstrel show, and no one mentioned this.


.... ooooooohhh .... rrrrrraaa ......

Posted by: Arbalest at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (FlRtG)

498 BTW, I would pay good money for a movie or TV show where Danica McKellar and Summer Glau are lesbian sisters. They look eerily similar.


Fixed.





Oh, and shut up and take my money!!!

Posted by: EC at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (GQ8sn)

499 480 I'm not envious of anybody because, as an attorney, I run the world. Just ask Amishdude.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (XUKZU)

Wait, I thought that was the Illuminati?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (4df7R)


The Illuminati are lawyers? EGADS.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (v3pYe)

500 437 Meh. Nat's got nothin' over Lou Rawls.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:02 PM (IFLI+)


Yeah Lou was smooth too, as well as Sam Cook.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (zZbNF)

501 >>Playboy's way too classy for that skank.

And not "empowering" enough. These kids brand themselves, and by golly, she'll insist on branding her descent into porno - posting pics on twitter, incorporating it into her latest single's music video, tweeting links to her YouTube channel, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (UrtRh)

502 Hey Ace: Racist Dog Whistle Flaming Skull Time (International Addition). Russia accuses the West of acting "like a monkey with a hand grenade."

Posted by: NYC Parent at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (HEo6y)

503 I'm not envious of anybody because, as an attorney, I run the world. Just ask Amishdude.



I'm not envious of anyone because I'm from Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (E7Zh9)

504 I didn't watch Miley. Never have and never will. Well, maybe her upcoming porn efforts. Nah. As for blacks in entertainment? Flip through the channels, blacks everywhere. What's the problem? Do they not get paid? I don't know who they are and don't care what their 'talent' is. When they reach the level of say, Diane Shur, or The Four Tops? Maybe. Miley will never get there. And BillyRay needs his ass kicked.

Posted by: EROWMER at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (OONaw)

505 Some dude named "Wentworth" just came out of the closet.




Shocking.

Posted by: nip at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (jI23+)

506 Yeah, how long before we get to see Miley's va jay jay close up and personal?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (FnJUz)

507 A firebrand Russian nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday
that the West was acting in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand
grenade."


Yep, nobody wants to take on crazy. I think the comparison is inapt. It's more like a crypto-fascist Leninist with a football.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (A0glY)

508 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_song

I briefly mention it in my book when Sophie Tucker has a cameo, but when she was a young girl on the Lower East Side, she would black up her face and sing "darkie" songs. Performers like that - especially if they had back-of-the-house leather lungs - were called "coon shouters."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (zF6Iw)

509 MOSCOW, August 27 (RIA Novosti) – A firebrand Russian
nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday that the West was acting
in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand grenade.

----

That.Is.AWESOME.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (nELVU)

510 And people wonder why I don't watch television, nor do I allow my children to do so.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (a3/N/)

511 Gaylord Focker and his lackeys are blundering into WWIII. You see they have this idea on how things work that they are trying to force upon a chaotic world that his run by base human impulses. And that chaotic world is violently resisting.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (SxI9Z)

512 "The sad truth is that, yes, white Americans have appropriated a lot of
"black culture." None of it has improved culture overall. None of it."
~CJ

Oh, I'm not claiming they haven't. I'm just shocked someone would look at that sleezefest and rush to stake claim to it as a representation of their "culture." But then again I worked hard to come out of a white trash background so perhaps I don't see the appeal in embracing that sort of thing.

Posted by: MojoRojo at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (eDHo4)

513 "Edition" not "Addition"
Yeesh.

Posted by: NYC Parent at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (HEo6y)

514 >>Playboy's way too classy for that skank.

Playboy stopped being shocking after Marilyn posed for it. Now it's like some kind of rite of passage for attractive young actresses or models to be in Playboy (though you get more sexualized content from a typical Vogue photospread anymore).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:15 PM (4df7R)

515
488 >If an ex-child star wants to really go for shock value, they should get an engineering degree.— < Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (GGCsk) Case in point: Danica McKellar. BTW, I would pay good money for a movie or TV show where Danica McKellar and Summer Glau are sisters. They look eerily similar.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:12 PM (4df7R)


Miyam Bialik also has an advanced degree. Its not the same as what her character on Big Bang Theory has but its similar.

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 02:15 PM (LI48c)

516 Nevergiveup, it's going to happen, probably tonight. Hopefully the Israelis are doing their usual self-defense due diligence.


On another note, what do you (or any of the other military morons) expect in the first, say, 72 hours? The first couple weeks? I really can't decide what we will/should do, above and beyond all questions of the wisdom of the operation. My old rocket crews aren't going to be involved, that's for sure. We only shot 50 miles, on a good day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 27, 2013 02:15 PM (ZshNr)

517 So when is the father-daughter version of Achy-Breaky Twerk coming out?

C'mon, you all know you were thinking it.

Posted by: Fritz at August 27, 2013 02:16 PM (UzPAd)

518 >>>There are likely a variety of factors (religiosity, hard work, simple
living, etc.) but I'm not sure I could appropriately assign percentages
to each factor. I think it would be worth a post if you've got a larger
opinion of why it's not just a perception of the Left but a reality
among some in the conservative community (particularly when conservatism
requires an understanding/grasp of issues that so many have not
exhibited).

i think another big driving factor is rejectivism. We are speaking, largely, of industries/areas of learning in which almost all of the workers are actively hostile to us, so it is natural to reject that which gives them power in a blanket way.

But that kind of rejectivism is sort of the reaction of the weak against the strong. I think rejectivism is underclass blacks' response to a dominant white culture they see as hostile to them, or at least unfair, which then leads them to reject half (or more) of the habits that create and sustain the middle class.

I think you see this in the Muslim world. The White Christian West has become good at making things, having a secular government, advancing pluralism, etc. But that's the White Christian West way; we must Reject that, and find Our Own Way.

Blanket rejectivism is often a crude tool where a scalpel is required. Reject the stupid and evil, appropriate the good and smart. But to simply write off entire categories of human learning as wisdom as Something The Other Tribe is Good At almost always results in bad outcomes.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)

519 515 Yeah,but she's ugly.

Posted by: steevy at August 27, 2013 02:17 PM (9XBK2)

520 If an ex-child star wants to really go for shock value, they should get an engineering degree.—
Posted by: Marcus at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (GGCsk)



Other case in point: Mayim Balik

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:17 PM (VtjlW)

521 I think Aura Bogata and Crystal Ball should team up and do essays together.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2013 02:17 PM (gTN+E)

522 484. Can you say that in here?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 27, 2013 02:17 PM (pDRpv)

523
Oh, I'm not claiming they haven't. I'm just shocked someone would look at that sleezefest and rush to stake claim to it as a representation of their "culture." But then again I worked hard to come out of a white trash background so perhaps I don't see the appeal in embracing that sort of thing.
Posted by: MojoRojo at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (eDHo4)

mojo

look at all the people claiming that they were "trayvon"and/or worried that the same fate would come to their son(s)....they identified with a drug dealing, thief, suspended how many times from school.....instead of the guy who wanted to be a police officer.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (8JJ6O)

524 506
Yeah, how long before we get to see Miley's va jay jay close up and personal?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (FnJUz)


As I said earlier it's already out there. She has made porn movies with some guy and it is all over the net. I would link to it but ace don't like us linking to porn.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (zZbNF)

525 507 A firebrand Russian nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday that the West was acting in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand grenade." Yep, nobody wants to take on crazy. I think the comparison is inapt. It's more like a crypto-fascist Leninist with a football.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 27, 2013 02:14 PM (A0glY)



Okay, monkey, let's go over this again. You pull the pin on the hand grenade and throw it at the enemy.

"OOook!"

Stop throwing your poop at me, or you won't get your treats! I told you, the grenade is not edible - Okay, I'm done. Screw this experiment.

"EEEEK!" *Splat*

Posted by: Frustrated Scientist at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (sGtp+)

526 Want to send some support to the soldiers of Israel? Pizza and soda even?
http://pizzaidf.org/

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (SxI9Z)

527 CAC wins the thread. Collect your intertubez on your way out, you silly racist.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (XctgQ)

528 I'd rather get a hug from Filner than have to watch Miley.

Posted by: Big Ben at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (I5Htn)

529 Miley Cyrus is an adult. As such she is free to do as she pleases whether her parents approve or not. They can do nothing, nor should they. Whoever said her mother should have yanked her off the stage is not living in the real world.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (/b8+5)

530 " such that it has stained my very SOUL?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:09 PM"


Soul? I was led to believe you're a ginger...
*ducks*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (knoK7)

531 "...and stealing from the black man."

So I take it you are against taking stuff from others? May I quote you on that?

Posted by: dogfish at August 27, 2013 02:19 PM (nsOJa)

532 Not everything can be reduced to hard science. In many fields, there are simply too many unknowns and too many things which cannot be measured.


--------------------------------------------------


That's why they call any medical professional's career a "practice".

Because that's what it takes to become a good medical professional.

Medicine is not science. There's a strong element of science connected to it, but not the main driver. Medicine is an artform. It's why some universities put their medical schools in the liberal arts departments.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:19 PM (IFLI+)

533 MOSCOW, August 27 (RIA Novosti) – A firebrand Russian nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday that the West was acting in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand grenade.----------
Cue the racist comments from MFM in 3-2-1....

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 27, 2013 02:19 PM (pDRpv)

534
just call em Winnie and Blossom

Posted by: soothsayer at August 27, 2013 02:19 PM (cfAmX)

535 The monkey might not pull the pin...you know Obama will.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp at August 27, 2013 02:19 PM (2BHYC)

536 1) Macklemore won best hip hop music video for his popular single ‘Can’t Hold Us’ over Kendrick Lamar
2) Smith family) by “dancing” with rape anthemist, Robin Thicke.

Ok, as the token hipster, bullshit. I like Kendrick Lamar. I like quoting random lyrics of his in my generic white guy voice for irony. In one, he is talking to a lady who seems unsure, and finishes with "girl, I know you want this dick." He isn't a rapist, he's coming onto her, just like Thicke. It's bravado. So this stupid scrunt feigns her knowledge whilst name dropping and running her own thoughts against each other like colliding trains of idiocy.

Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (jA+VS)

537 I would link to it but ace don't like us linking to porn. except on the ONT

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (zZbNF)

FIFY, he he.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (wR+pz)

538 The Illuminati are lawyers? EGADS.
Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 02:13 PM (v3pYe)



Kneel before Zod, bitches.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (VtjlW)

539 477
True Story.....(well, synopsis there of) of a conversation I recently had a black friend of mine.


Her: I went to an all black college, majored in Black Studies. I watch BET, I like black music, black culture, balck arts... black black black black.

Me: ".... not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Her: You got that riiiiight!!!!!

Me: How can I do that when you continually set yourself apart as black??

Her: You Raaacist Honky White Privileged Living Redneck Cracker.

Me: ..... nevermind.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 27, 2013 02:10 PM (nELVU)

I think most black Americans go through this phase. I did, though my major was business.

I have always been a reader and have owned a lot of different sorts of books. Occasionally I cull my shelves of books which I have no plans to read or that I have picked up and put down a number of times.

At some point, I did this with most of my "black" books because, frankly, they were boring as hell. When my dad asked my why I did this, I told him that I knew how to be black and wanted to read books on topics which I had little to no knowledge of.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (Tnlh/)

540 Not everything can be reduced to hard science.

Actually, it can. It's just that the information is so complex that we, as mere human beings, even with the best of computers, can't understand it. There are only a finite number of electrons in the universe.

Do nothing at all, for we will never understand the area with a scientific level of rigor;

or at least construct a system of guesses, observed tendencies, syndromes, etc. A much "fuzzier" form of science (that's why it's soft science), but then, all actual hard science began, long ago, as soft science.


Or third, admit that what you're doing is nonmathematical, imprecise and...this is the big one...possibly very very wrong.

I have to prove shit.

I don't get to be wrong or have hypotheses based on incomplete information or get to say that it's the best theory based on what we know.

Proof or get off the pot.

It's like the old joke where the mathematician only needs pen, paper and a wastebasket and the philosopher only needs pen and paper.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (T0NGe)

541 Yeah, how long before we get to see Miley's va jay jay close up and personal?

Why should Dad be the only one?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (zF6Iw)

542 "Kneel before Zod, bitches.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM"

*lawyerly fist bump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (knoK7)

543 EmpireofJeff, much like AllenG, should start a blog.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (xmcEQ)

544 CAC, being a newlywed, that makes you a racist what, three or four times a week?

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (LSJmV)

545 @526

Now that is some cool shit. Nice Jewish mothers all over the world can send pizza!

Do they deliver during a war?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (wR+pz)

546 21 And sadly.... these idiots don't know their own history...

Take a look at the MOTOWN Band.... and you'll see a couple of white guys...

Why? because it was about the music....Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (lZBBB) I got quite a shock when I looked at my iPod's screen when "You lost that loving feeling" was playing and saw the Righteous Brothers were white. I had no idea.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (t06LC)

547
"It's interesting that she (or he, I don't know) is fixated on the racial angle and overlooking the somewhat more present angle of "Lesbian Analingus Pantomime for Tweeners." Oh and by the way, it was performed on a bear."


That would make it Bestial Lesbian Analingus Pantomime for Tweeners. Better known as BLAPT, which sounds like how Mushmouth on the Fat Albert show would pronounce "black". The racial stereotypes never end.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (29vnO)

548
monkeys??

Posted by: soothsayer at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (cfAmX)

549 Iran threatens Israel? Well I never....

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (pDRpv)

550 Occasionally I cull my shelves of books


I do not understand those words in that order.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

551 Soul? I was led to believe you're a ginger...*ducks*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (knoK7)


*sigh* FINE. I was trying to utilize brevity to make the point more heartfelt, since "stained my SOUL-SHAPED HOLLOW SPACE" doesn't roll off the tongue.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (4df7R)

552 that's how i feel about someone called "caustic"

Except that probably isn't his real name.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (gTN+E)

553 Blanket rejectivism is often a crude tool where a
scalpel is required. Reject the stupid and evil, appropriate the good
and smart. But to simply write off entire categories of human learning
as wisdom as Something The Other Tribe is Good At almost always results
in bad outcomes.
Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 02:16 PM (/IWYB)


So to take this in another direction, do you think that this approach has a great deal to do with why conservatives have been playing defense on the "Climate Change" issue for so long?

Could it be as simple as Angry Rejection vs. Effective Messaging when the message is still essentially the same? Or is that an oversimplification given that those crafting The Narrative own the media megaphones and were going to gain a foothold either way?

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (tWmgi)

554 496 So inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist?
Well then.
Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 02:11 PM (jA+VS)

Dude, you must be the Grand Cyclops.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 02:23 PM (Tnlh/)

555 And speaking of Miley Fox had a headline earlier that I laughed at. They asked if Disney's reputation would be hurt by her antics.


Hahahahaha, after years of the drunken/rug addled Lohan how could Miley be any worse?

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:23 PM (zZbNF)

556 Well Israel probably won't be having that surplus sale. Those 93 F-16s just became attrition replacements.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:23 PM (SxI9Z)

557 "Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM"

;-)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 27, 2013 02:24 PM (knoK7)

558 So where can I get me a can of piping hot slavery?

Posted by: John Kerry at August 27, 2013 02:24 PM (Lljg2)

559 So to take this in another direction, do you think
that this approach has a great deal to do with why conservatives have
been playing defense on the "Climate Change" issue for so long?

Could
it be as simple as Angry Rejection vs. Effective Messaging when the
message is still essentially the same? Or is that an oversimplification
given that those crafting The Narrative own the media megaphones and
were going to gain a foothold either way?


Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (tWmgi)
-I, for one, don't know why anyone would play defense on that issue. Just show how the data has been manipulated, and say global warmists are liars, and be done with it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 27, 2013 02:24 PM (a3/N/)

560 I'm not envious of anybody because, as an attorney, I run the world. Just ask Amishdude.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 27, 2013 02:08 PM (XUKZU)


There are more Senators who are lawyers than non-lawyers.

Sorry, it's the truth. your profession is overrepresented and has a whole branch of government to itself.

An explicit single-payer program for medicine would get a very large number of votes in Congress.

How many votes would a single-payer program for law get?

Yeah.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:25 PM (T0NGe)

561 I got quite a shock when I looked at my iPod's screen when "You lost that loving feeling" was playing and saw the Righteous Brothers were white. I had no idea.

Posted by: Jollyroger at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (t06LC

Yeah, I had that same problem.

Posted by: Zombie Charlie Pride at August 27, 2013 02:25 PM (wR+pz)

562 526 Want to send some support to the soldiers of Israel? Pizza and soda even?
http://pizzaidf.org/

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (SxI9Z)


Don't forget http://burgeridf.org/

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 02:25 PM (fWAjv)

563 Zombie Charlie Pride?

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (LSJmV)

564 As I said earlier it's already out there. She has made porn movies with some guy and it is all over the net. I would link to it but ace don't like us linking to porn.
Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (zZbNF)

There is no sex tape of Cyrus. I should know I'm an expert. I mean my friend told me and he is an expert. There are tapes people have claimed to be Cyrus but they are easily disputed.

Posted by: polynikes at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (m2CN7)

565 558 So where can I get me a can of piping hot slavery?

Posted by: John Kerry at August 27, 2013 02:24 PM (Lljg2)

You want that with your fucking "Green Tea"?

Posted by: Iowa Waitress at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (wR+pz)

566 "So inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist?"

Does that include half-blackness too?

Just... um, curious.

Posted by: Kal Penn at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (WMsq+)

567 529 Miley Cyrus is an adult. As such she is free to do as she pleases whether her parents approve or not. They can do nothing, nor should they. Whoever said her mother should have yanked her off the stage is not living in the real world.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (/b8+5)



To feed the troll a little bit. In the real world, parents have influence (respect/authority) with their children, even adult ones.

If they love their child, they will tell them, "this is a really bad idea" and even do anything within their power to influence the child to do otherwise.

The parents that don't have screwed the pooch already, either through apathy or cowardice.

Posted by: Frustrated Scientist at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (v3pYe)

568 Proof or get off the pot.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (T0NGe)


You cannot write a proof to explain why the Mona Lisa's smile has fascinated onlookers for centuries. You may be able to break down the mathetmatical angles and geometries of it, but that's not a reason. That's just Leonardo's talent for capturing his subject's features on display.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (4df7R)

569 Unsock.

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (v3pYe)

570 Why should I see past the color of black people's skin when they can't see past the color of mine?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (xmcEQ)

571 There is no sex tape of Cyrus. I should know I'm an
expert. I mean my friend told me and he is an expert. There are tapes
people have claimed to be Cyrus but they are easily disputed.

Posted by: polynikes at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (m2CN7)

Yes, she has one out there.

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (zZbNF)

572 563 Zombie Charlie Pride?


Well, shit I thought that MFer was dead by now.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (wR+pz)

573 In one, he is talking to a lady who seems unsure, and finishes with "girl, I know you want this dick."

Yeah, what young girl wouldn't want to be wooed like that? O_O

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 27, 2013 02:28 PM (/kI1Q)

574 550 Occasionally I cull my shelves of books

I do not understand those words in that order.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

Cull my books of shelves? You know what I mean.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 02:28 PM (Tnlh/)

575 Aaron Klein, the guy with the wabc radio show on sunday night, based in Israel was interviewed last night by Dr. Savage. The thing that stuck out for me during the interview is that Klein is home in the states for a book tour. Just as twitter is saying the Israelis are preparing for possible war.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:28 PM (/b8+5)

576 I'm still alive, and spell my name right, bitches!

Posted by: Charley Pride at August 27, 2013 02:28 PM (WMsq+)

577
82 Miley Cyrus has a face like a bastard rat and a voice like a trucker. I don't get the appeal.

I think you have her confused with Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: drill_thrawl at August 27, 2013 02:29 PM (fcNe2)

578 >>>Proof or get off the pot.


whatever dude, you constantly campaign for the same proposition: You, and other mathematicians, are the only people who have Real Jobs.

You sound like Sheldon Cooper.

As you will. I don't want to continue to argue this with you, this idea that you and your cadre of mathematicians are the only people in the world engaged in worthy work.

It's a childish solipsicism and I just roll my eyes when you do it, usually, but I have to tell you, the passive-aggressive putting-down of all other people is noted.

I am a writer. Apparently what I do is shit, because Only Math Counts.



Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 02:30 PM (/IWYB)

579 Haven't read all the comments yet, so maybe this has been said already, but is the takeaway that white performers should not perform with black people, because raaaaacist?

Have we done a complete 180 now, where integration is the new racism?

Posted by: Mayday at August 27, 2013 02:30 PM (eHc+1)

580 Miley Cyrus is an adult. As such she is free to do as she pleases
whether her parents approve or not. They can do nothing, nor should
they. Whoever said her mother should have yanked her off the stage is
not living in the real world.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:18 PM (/b8+5)

----

o_O

Im almost fifty..... and I guran-fricking-tee you if I behaved like that in public..... my mother would most definitely be yanking me off stage.

I can also guran-fricking-tee you if either of my sons did the same..... Mrs Fixer would STILL be kicking their 20-something behinds.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (nELVU)

581 Zombie Charlie Pride?


Well, shit I thought that MFer was dead by now.


Still living in Preston Hollow area of Dallas, iirc. I've run in to him twice over the years. Once at Braums & once at Guitar Center on 635.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (E7Zh9)

582 When it comes to the New Connoisseurship of racism, it seems that is the only subject being taught in the liberal arts departments of universities any more. I see these unknowns posting their exquisite analytical skills that were honed over four years of study paid for with a crushing load of debt as just showing off their expensive but useless skills after getting off night shift stocking shelves at Kroger.

It is kind of like British Public School educated Second Lieutenants reciting Ovid or Juvenal to each other in an underground bunker and wondering how their expensive educations were supposed to prepare them for their current job. Perhaps a better analogy would be Russian intellectuals in the Gulag trading poems by Pushkin or Gorchakov to keep up each others' spirits but realizing that this skill is not going to do much to help them survive in their current circumstance.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (31Nrp)

583 Do they deliver during a war?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (wR+pz)

They did during Lebanon/Hizballah conflict. Not sure about a full on war though.

Posted by: RWC at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (fWAjv)

584 @576

OK.

http://tinyurl.com/nh5mbo

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (wR+pz)

585 I do not understand those words in that order. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:22 PM (VtjlW)

I know. It's painful to realize this, but sometimes, people discard books.

*closes AtC's mouth, which hangs agape in disbelief*

Usually they're given away, or sold, or donated, but however it's done, people feel it necessary to clear space on their bookshelves.

Now, the good news is that this is usually done to make space for MORE books, which replace the old ones that have gone on to find new homes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (4df7R)

586
Occasionally I cull my shelves of books


I do not understand those words in that order.


Two words: Used Books.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (210xL)

587 new one

Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:32 PM (zZbNF)

588
575 Aaron Klein, the guy with the wabc radio show on sunday night, based in Israel was interviewed last night by Dr. Savage. The thing that stuck out for me during the interview is that Klein is home in the states for a book tour. Just as twitter is saying the Israelis are preparing for possible war.
Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:28 PM (/b8+5)


A demonstration of pure idiocy on display.

Posted by: buzzion at August 27, 2013 02:32 PM (LI48c)

589 544 CAC, being a newlywed, that makes you a racist what, three or four times a week?
Posted by: Countrysquire at August 27, 2013 02:21 PM (LSJmV)
ISWYDTIRTMNNWWSNM

Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 02:32 PM (jA+VS)

590
I know. It's painful to realize this, but sometimes, people discard books.

*closes AtC's mouth, which hangs agape in disbelief*

Usually they're given away, or sold, or donated, but however it's done, people feel it necessary to clear space on their bookshelves.

Now, the good news is that this is usually done to make space for MORE books, which replace the old ones that have gone on to find new homes.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 02:31 PM (4df7R)

Well that's the other reason I do it.

But...discard? Sell.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 02:33 PM (Tnlh/)

591 Yes, she has one out there.
Posted by: Vic at August 27, 2013 02:27 PM (zZbNF) Are you the connoisseur Ace spoke of?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2013 02:33 PM (kuIpN)

592 Some better notes from some beautiful pipes for this discordant world.
http://youtu.be/WXXPIpwpyNQ

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:33 PM (SxI9Z)

593 Im almost fifty..... and I guran-fricking-tee you if I behaved like that in public..... my mother would most definitely be yanking me off stage.



Ding ding ding! Mine too & I am 50.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 27, 2013 02:34 PM (E7Zh9)

594 Everyone who's seen an episode of Bones or CSI knows you stuff your dead bodies into the used fry oil recovery bins where they won't be found for months.

Damn, my plans for the perfect murder are ruined! RUINED!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 27, 2013 02:34 PM (i2Lsf)

595 I think you have her confused with Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: drill_thrawl at August 27, 2013 02:29 PM

This whole thing has been completely con-fuzed since Teh Won and his Derp of State began calling the Syrian deal "Operation Circle-Twerk."

Posted by: Chuck Haggle at August 27, 2013 02:34 PM (6xhLc)

596 a little bit of personal pride and chauvanism can be charming, but the casual denigration of all other spheres of human endeavor... a bit excessive, I think.


Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (/IWYB)

597 To feed the troll a little bit. In the real world,
parents have influence (respect/authority) with their children, even
adult ones.

If they love their child, they will tell them, "this
is a really bad idea" and even do anything within their power to
influence the child to do otherwise.

The parents that don't have screwed the pooch already, either through apathy or cowardice.


Posted by: Frustrated Scientist at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (v3pYe)
You are making a lot of assumptions. Quite possibly her parents were as surprised as the audience. The world is telling her this is a bad idea doubt her parents are going to pile on. There are parents, who when you become an adult, do not step in and shield you from the repercussions of your mistakes. Miley will either learn from this or she won't.This is a lot like the Oprah pe**s dress debacle. You can be so powerful and overwhelming that everyone is afraid to tell you anything, including the fact that the designers sent over a dress that looks like a giant male member and you are about to wear it on the letterman program making a spectacle of yourself and when you are fat, nothing can make you look thin. Even a dress that you thought was color blocking to make you look real thin.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (/b8+5)

598 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 27, 2013 02:24 PM (a3/N/)

AGW? It's simple.

Most people "believe in science".

That is, they take pronouncements from certified scientific organizations as a zealot would from a holy man.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (T0NGe)

599 I wouldn't know Miley Cyrus if she rang my doorbell. I mean, I've heard the name and I know she's a former Disney Child star turned bad. That;s about it .That must be from not having teen girls and not having TV.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (gTN+E)

600 There is no sex tape of Cyrus. I should know I'm an expert. I mean my friend told me and he is an expert. There are tapes people have claimed to be Cyrus but they are easily disputed.
Posted by: polynikes at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (m2CN7)


-------------------------------------------


There is a tape. I know it. I'm a connoisseur. I can smell it.

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (IFLI+)

601 That is, they take pronouncements from certified scientific organizations as a zealot would from a holy man.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:36 PM (T0NGe)


-------------------------------------------


Amen!

Posted by: Soona at August 27, 2013 02:38 PM (IFLI+)

602 You cannot write a proof to explain why the Mona Lisa's smile has fascinated onlookers for centuries.

Exactly. So any explanation you give could be wrong. Or, in this context, a difference of opinion.

Which means you cannot *know* why the Mona Lisa's smile does anything.

Which is fine, in and of itself, but recognize that it is imprecise, it isn't a proof, it isn't metaphysical certainty.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:39 PM (T0NGe)

603
brilliant

platinum

Posted by: WordConnoisseurs at August 27, 2013 02:39 PM (IXrOn)

604 AmishDude and Soona, knew there was a reason I was inspired to write this morning on the subject of Cult of Climate.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-cult-of-climate.html

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 27, 2013 02:40 PM (SxI9Z)

605 The parents that don't have screwed the pooch already, either through apathy or cowardice.


Posted by: Frustrated Scientist at August 27, 2013 02:26 PM (v3pYe)

Or greed.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 27, 2013 02:40 PM (L8r/r)

606 When you google "miley cyrus sex tape" you get ten pages.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:40 PM (/b8+5)

607
You read my mind in the silence.

Posted by: PhilipGlass at August 27, 2013 02:41 PM (IXrOn)

608 When you google "miley cyrus sex tape" you get ten pages.

***

Who uses Google? You really ought to know better.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 27, 2013 02:42 PM (WMsq+)

609 I'm sure if there is a sex tape it's on you tube in the same area as the Geraldo Riviera selfies.

Posted by: caustic at August 27, 2013 02:42 PM (/b8+5)

610 Well that's the other reason I do it.

But...discard? Sell.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2013 02:33 PM (Tnlh/)



I suppose if it's to get money to buy more books it's somewhat less horrific.

Seriously, when Mommy was helping me pack to move she suggested that I sell my books because I'd already read them. Apparently, I stared at her like she just suggested I shoot her dog.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 27, 2013 02:45 PM (VtjlW)

611
"Quite possibly her parents were as surprised as the audience."

Miley's mom was seen on cameraclapping along with the performance and was later quoted as saying how proud she was of her daughter's performance. That kid was screwed from the moment she popped out.

Posted by: shinypie at August 27, 2013 02:46 PM (Kz85k)

612 Im almost fifty..... and I guran-fricking-tee you if I behaved like that in public..... my mother would most definitely be yanking me off stage.
Did anyone see the Open Letter to my Daughter about Miley Cyrus out there? It's from a mom's blog:

"Yes, this is what happens when you constantly hear everything you do is awesome. This is what happens when people fawn over your every Tweet and Instagram photo. This is what happens when no responsible adult has ever said the word “no,” made you change your clothes before leaving the house, or never spanked your butt for deliberate defiance.

"If you ever even consider doing something like that, I promise you that I will run up and twerk so you will see how ridiculous twerking looks. I will duct tape your mouth shut so your tongue doesn’t hangout like an overheated hound dog. I will smack any male whom you decide to smash against his pelvis – after I first knock you on your butt for forgetting how a lady acts in public.

"Why would I do that? Because I love you and I want you to respect yourself. Miley Cyrus is not edgy or cool or sexy. She’s a desperate girl screaming for attention: Notice me."

Posted by: CJ at August 27, 2013 02:46 PM (9KqcB)

613
But did the thrift shop guy win anything?

"by “dancing” with rape anthemist, Robin Thicke."

Is this about blurred lines? This is why we can't have nice things. People like this.

Posted by: Lea at August 27, 2013 02:46 PM (lIU4e)

614 "Michael Jackson Vanguard Video Award"

I know Michael Hackson used to be Black, but really .. wasn't he White just before he died ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 27, 2013 02:48 PM (q2b5x)

615 "I don't get to be wrong or have hypotheses based on
incomplete information or get to say that it's the best theory based on
what we know.



Proof or get off the pot.



It's like the old joke where the mathematician only needs pen, paper
and a wastebasket and the philosopher only needs pen and paper.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:20 PM (T0NGe)"

In the real world, we have to make decisions based on incomplete information all the time. The choice is usually either act in time with the information available or wait until you have all the information and it is too late to act.

It's like the old joke about a convention where an engineer, a physicist and a mathematician stay up late in the hotel bar and then stumble up to their rooms, fall into bed but light a cigarette before falling asleep. The engineer wakes up, smells smoke, realizes what is wrong, fills the wastebasket with water, pours it on the burning bed and puts out the fire. The physicist wakes up, sees the fire, makes some calculations, goes to the sink and fills a cup with 98 ml of water, pours it on the fire and puts it out. The mathematician wakes up and sees the fire, makes some calculations, proves that the fire can be put out, rolls over and goes back to sleep and is burned to death.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 27, 2013 02:49 PM (31Nrp)

616 whatever dude, you constantly campaign for the same proposition: You, and other mathematicians, are the only people who have Real Jobs.

Only within the context of academia. Plumbers, electricians, contractors, construction workers, farmers, factory workers, engineers -- they have real jobs.

Besides, I have to advocate for the intellectual superiority of my people. We are treated like absolute shit in academia. We don't even get intellectual property protection.

You sound like Sheldon Cooper.

Never seen the show. I understand it's about physicists.

It's a childish solipsicism and I just roll my eyes when you do it,

As well you should. It's schtick. But in every schtick, there's truth.

but I have to tell you, the passive-aggressive putting-down of all other people is noted.

That's fine. Although I wouldn't say it's very passive-

Here's the deal: I see kids taking on GIGANTIC loans to go to a 4-year party which is aided and abetted by the humanities and social sciences and other fields which promise an easy sheepskin and part-time work.

Then they go to the real world, find themselves unprepared and realize -- even worse -- that they were not intellectually challenged at all because the humanities have atrophied to the point where they could be done away with -- entirely and en masse -- and no one would miss them.

I am a writer. Apparently what I do is shit, because Only Math Counts.

No, it's great. But remember, I live in academia and here, it's shit. It's masturbatory and self-referential. It's rhetoric, with the most negative connotations. It's Education About Nothing, to borrow a phrase from Seinfeld.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:50 PM (T0NGe)

617 In the real world, we have to make decisions based on incomplete information all the time.

Guess what? I do the same thing...in the real world. I don't make up an academic subject about it.

It's like the old joke about a convention where an engineer, a physicist and a mathematician...rolls over and goes back to sleep and is burned to death.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 27, 2013 02:49 PM (31Nrp)


The punchline should be something like "...and reduced it to a previously-solved problem."

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:53 PM (T0NGe)

618 Miley is aiming to be the next Lady Gaga, but I think she's going to be the next Lindsay Lohan instead. Maybe even the next Amanda Bynes.

Posted by: Null at August 27, 2013 02:55 PM (P7hip)

619 I commented on this turning into racism charges yesterday, and I think ppl dismissed it because it's whacko crazy. Oh ye of little faith


The biggest cognitive dissonance I'm seeing, that has me scratching my head, are those people who are proclaiming that twerking has its roots in African tribal dance, so when blacks are twerking they are tapping into this primal, deep form of artistic expression. BUT, when skinny white popstarlets twerk, it is a crass, trashy display. Um, NO, it was always trashy; you are displaying your shaking hindquarters for men, like an animal in heat. In what way is that deeply artistic?


Obviously teh racism, it runs deep within me. I will run to the barrel now. /sarc

Posted by: LizLem, sadly too young to start telling twentysomething hipsters to get off her lawn at August 27, 2013 03:00 PM (8wqqE)

620 581
Zombie Charlie Pride?



Well, shit I thought that MFer was dead by now.



Still living in Preston Hollow area of Dallas, iirc. I've run in to
him twice over the years. Once at Braums once at Guitar Center on
635.
--

I saw him a few years ago at an El Fenix. Used to be acquainted with his daughter-in-law, but think she and his son may have divorced. I don't think she was crazy about old Charlie.

Posted by: Mayday at August 27, 2013 03:03 PM (eHc+1)

621 I'm so thankful for the African Studies scholars' explanation of Miley's performance.

All this time, I just thought it was shit.

Posted by: red speck at August 27, 2013 03:05 PM (9/Ug/)

622 "...The biggest cognitive dissonance I'm seeing, that has me scratching my head, are those people who are proclaiming that twerking has its roots in African tribal dance, so when blacks are twerking they are tapping into this primal, deep form of artistic expression...

Riiiiight.....

And the chicks in the 2 Live Crew videos in 1989 were completely engrossed in authentic African tribal dance history.

Posted by: B at August 27, 2013 03:07 PM (XyoGP)

623 "Here's the deal: I see kids taking on GIGANTIC
loans to go to a 4-year party which is aided and abetted by the
humanities and social sciences and other fields which promise an easy
sheepskin and part-time work.




...

Posted by: AmishDude at August 27, 2013 02:50 PM (T0NGe)"

I once knew a woman who put herself through school to get a degree and certificate to council drug addicts. After years of effort and sacrifice she tried to find a job in the field that she had trained for only to discover that one of the requirements for that position is that you have been addicted at some point in your life and have overcome that addiction. During the years that she had worked and studied and denied gratification in order to earn her degree, nobody had ever pointed out this basic fact.


Now I realize that she could certainly be faulted for not having done enough due diligence before the fact, but it does seem like kind of a cruel joke that reflected that the attitude of academics towards their students is not real different than the attitude of workers in a meat packing plant towards the animals that arrive each day.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 27, 2013 03:11 PM (31Nrp)

624 When all you have is the atomic bomb, ever problem begins to look like an island full of japs.

Posted by: ASK21 at August 27, 2013 03:13 PM (8lB0x)

625 “Her act tipped over into what we may as well just call racism: a minstrel show routine whose ghoulishness was heightened by Cyrus’s madcap charisma, and by the dark beauty of “We Can’t Stop” — by a good distance, the most powerful pop hit of 2013,” Rosen adds.


There's a little clue there that the "racist" buzz is too much protest...and actually product promotion (and sales damage control for the stupid).

Miley "I know what race I am" Cyrus (or her twitter promoter tweeting as her), had been working this angle, even before the VMA; so some of this is probably not only anticipated reaction, but manufactured reaction. I

Posted by: Sarahw at August 27, 2013 03:18 PM (LYwCh)

626 I've never heard the song. I was wondering if it was just me, since I trend to older classic rock and swing music. I do manage to hear the popular songs, thou, when out of my house, commercials, etc. I am glad I wasn't the only one who asked what song that is.

Posted by: VULaw at August 27, 2013 03:23 PM (j6usx)

627 The left has become such a parody of itself that I can no longer tell when they're trying to be serious or funny. That tweet -- is it a joke? Or does the lady actually think that? Come on, it's gotta be a joke, right?

Posted by: Jay at August 27, 2013 03:26 PM (4x8W0)

628 I've been seeing all week these stuffed monkey dolls with Rastafarian hats, questioning if these things really are 'PC', then along comes this ...

MOSCOW, August 27 (RIA Novosti) – A firebrand Russian nationalist-turned-senior official said Tuesday that the West was acting in the Islamic world like a “monkey with a hand grenade.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 27, 2013 03:27 PM (q2b5x)

629 The left has become such a parody of itself that I can no longer tell
when they're trying to be serious or funny. That tweet -- is it a joke?
Or does the lady actually think that? Come on, it's gotta be a joke,
right?

***

That's what she'll say when people start mocking her. It's leftist SOP.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 27, 2013 03:41 PM (WMsq+)

630 Analingus? Isn't that what the press performs on Obama every day?

Posted by: Analingus Analyst at August 27, 2013 03:52 PM (RZP0w)

631 The argument that acting like a nasty pedo skank on stage appropriates black cultural heritage seems pretty racist all by itself.









Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 27, 2013 04:13 PM (SzAZ7)

632 If RB is the province of blacks, then baseball and other sports, invented by white dudes, should only be the province of white dudes right? I mean, this works both ways, amiright? What, no, that's not, but..Oh I see, whites can't do stuff that's invented by or primarily done by blacks but blacks can do whatever whites can do. Makes.perfect.sense.

Posted by: Jon in TX at August 27, 2013 04:21 PM (PYAXX)

633 "Lesbian Analingus"

Eeuw! There's such a thing? Glad I'm straight.

Posted by: pj at August 27, 2013 04:40 PM (ZWaLo)

634 I like the way she twerks it - no dignity.
I definitely got to bag it up (bag it up).

Posted by: Blackstreet at August 27, 2013 04:48 PM (FsqHK)

635 Analingus. Isn't that an Irish airline?

Posted by: red speck at August 27, 2013 04:48 PM (9/Ug/)

636 Here’s the thing: historically, black women have had very little agency over their bodies. From being raped by white slave masters to the ever-enduring stereotype that black women can’t be raped, black women have been told over and over and over again, that their bodies are not their own. By bringing these “homegirls with the big butts” out onto the stage with her and engaging in a one-sided interaction with her ass (not even her actual person!) Miley has contributed to that rhetoric. She made that woman’s body a literal spectacle to be enjoyed by her legions of loyal fans. Not only was that the only way that Miley interacted with any of the other people onstage with her, but all of her backup dancers were “black women with big butts” as Violet_Baudelaire so astutely pointed out. So not only are black women’s bodies being used as props, but they are also props that are only worthy of interaction if that interaction involves sexualization.

Posted by: Some feminist blog at August 27, 2013 04:55 PM (UQgtZ)

637 On would think that all the blacks would be running back to Africa if it was such a great place...wait, you don't get from money and stuff from your neighbors without running the risk of being shot...never mind.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at August 27, 2013 05:24 PM (gdGJ1)

638 This is great news guys. Nothing says women are really stupid better except maybe abortion on demand.
Keep it up girls!! RESPECT is on the rise. HAHAHA

Posted by: RIK at August 27, 2013 05:44 PM (bA1PK)

639 I'm not sure what's worse: the pettiness of the above "thinkers" finding racism in every corner, or the fact that they want "ownership" of some of the most vulgar aspects of pop culture.

Posted by: logprof at August 27, 2013 06:30 PM (bufJH)

640 This has been one of the things taht has annoyed me
for years. Have you ever noticed when a new blackmusic star jumps onto
the scene, he or she is always - ALWAYS -- placed in the RB section?
Always. It doesn't matter if their music isn't remotely "rhythm and
blues." It's because "black people sing RB" while "white people sing
pop."



PISSES. ME. OFF. Talk about stereotyping!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 27, 2013 01:05 PM (4df7R)

Yeah, it sucks.

Posted by: Bad Brains at August 27, 2013 06:35 PM (bufJH)

641 >>>Lesbian analingus?

>>>Eeuw! There's such a thing?

There sure is.

There sure is.

Posted by: Vivid Entertainment at August 27, 2013 06:55 PM (/IWYB)

642 "The peanut was invented by George Washington Carver, a known black man."

Actually dumba$$ the peanut was created by God. GW Carter invented Peanut Butter.

Posted by: Cman at August 27, 2013 08:34 PM (XhmNr)

643 >>>Actually dumba$$ the peanut was created by God. GW Carter invented Peanut Butter.

really?

are you sure? Because I think he actually physically created the peanut.

there were beakers

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 08:35 PM (/IWYB)

644 A Minstrel Show? I thought Miley was just telling us about the Krampus through the medium of dance. That or she was warning us about syphilis.

Posted by: vorak the dull at August 27, 2013 08:44 PM (OsCtd)

645 Actually dumba$$ the peanut was created by God. GW Carter invented Peanut Butter.


Posted by: Cman at August 27, 2013 08:34 PM (XhmNr)


----------------

That's fuckin BULLSHIT. The peanut is a hybrid of peas and nuts, which is why they come in a shell-like "pod", which no other nut does.

Or is it just that you can't stand the idea that a black man can be a preeminent scientist? Racist touch-hole.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 08:46 PM (JDIKC)

646 One of the scandals that kept Jimmy Carter from being re-elected was his taking credit for inventing the peanut.

Posted by: logprof at August 27, 2013 08:52 PM (bufJH)

647 GW Carver also invented the first practical lube.

Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 08:54 PM (i6ORA)

648 look, I don't know "science" like some of you do, and I don't know who really invented the peanut, but I do know this: George Washington Carver invented the peanut.

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 08:55 PM (/IWYB)

649 Cman is just anti-science.

Posted by: CAC at August 27, 2013 08:58 PM (i6ORA)

650 Actually, Cman, you might be confused here. God created the penis. This was before Eve. He had to give Adam something to pee straight with, and for something for him to do by himself.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 27, 2013 09:00 PM (d7tB2)

651 I thought peanut butter was invented by Francois Jiffy long before Dr. Carver was born.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 27, 2013 09:02 PM (6WVi+)

652 All I know is that the Wops invented anchovies.

Posted by: toby928© at August 27, 2013 09:03 PM (QupBk)

653 Why do you think all these white kids are getting peanut "allergies" all the sudden? Because the royalties from peanuts sales and it's derivatives, like peanut butter and peanut oil fund the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund through the trust established by George Washington Carver's estate and the Tuskeegee Institute.


It's fuckin HISTORY. Congrats, Cman. You hate SCIENCE and HISTORY. That's a two-fer, champ.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 09:05 PM (JDIKC)

654 "That's fuckin BULLSHIT. The peanut is a hybrid of peas and nuts, which is why they come in a shell-like "pod", which no other nut does.

Or is it just that you can't stand the idea that a black man can be a preeminent scientist? Racist touch-hole."

Actually, peanuts are not a nut or hybrid, they are a legume or "bean". They grow in pods in the ground(peanuts in the shell). And yes, they were invented by God.....

George Washington Carver came up with recipes for peanuts when the US Agriculture Dept. wanted peanuts used as food instead of livestock feed.

It was one of his many revolutionary programs that helped poor farmers become more self sufficient and provided more foodstuffs for everyone overall.

Posted by: Jen at August 27, 2013 09:15 PM (d0XPs)

655 No less an authority than Luther Burbank, the inventor of the nectarine said, and I quote:

"Mr Carver's spectacular creation, the peanut, his most fortuitous and surprising hybridization of the Langham pea and the brazil nut will prove to be the crop that revives the South."

Learn your history Cman.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 27, 2013 09:16 PM (ZR4Xh)

656 Actually, peanuts are not a nut or hybrid, they are a legume or "bean". They grow in pods in the ground(peanuts in the shell). And yes, they were invented by God.....

Posted by: Jen


That sound you are hearing isn't an airplane flying overhead.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 27, 2013 09:18 PM (HJ0MR)

657 Fear of something is at the root of hate for others, and hate within will eventually destroy the hater. On the other hand, my new legume, which I call the PeeNut, never leave you empty nor spiteful.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:31 PM (QupBk)

658 the man had beakers

case closed

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 09:32 PM (/IWYB)

659 Nothing is more beautiful than the loveliness of the woods before sunrise. Except the PeeNut.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:32 PM (QupBk)

660 Our creator is the same and never changes despite the names given Him by people here and in all parts of the world. Even if we gave Him no name at all, He would still be there, within us, waiting to give us good on this earth. Except the PeeNut, that came from me.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:33 PM (QupBk)

661 it's possible the natural peanut, or "Devil's Nut," existed before GWC, even if only in legend, but GWC definitely created the life we know today as the modern peanut.

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 09:34 PM (/IWYB)

662 Learn to do common things uncommonly well; we must always keep in mind that anything that helps fill the dinner pail is valuable. Like, for instance, my PeeNut.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:34 PM (QupBk)

663 "Let my bounty issue forth from the Genius of my Immortal Mind." -- George Washington Carver

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 09:35 PM (/IWYB)

664 If you love it enough, anything will talk with you. Especially, PeeNuts.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:36 PM (QupBk)

665 Actually, peanuts are not a nut or hybrid, they are a legume or "bean". They grow in pods in the ground(peanuts in the shell). And yes, they were invented by God.....

Posted by: Jen

That sound you are hearing isn't an airplane flying overhead.


I think I"ll leave this thread and go have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich...I"m sure some Earl invented that.....

Posted by: Jen at August 27, 2013 09:37 PM (d0XPs)

666 There is no short cut to achievement. Life requires thorough preparation - veneer isn't worth anything. Unless we're talking about the useful pod of the PeeNut, from which a hundred different building materials can be made.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:37 PM (QupBk)

667 Where there is no vision, there is no hope. Also, no PeeNut.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:39 PM (QupBk)

668 Now, peanut brittle - that was a collaboration between Thaddeus J. Brittle and Dr. Carver, but as I understand it, Brittle died of consumption and Carver screwed his widow out of the royalties.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 27, 2013 09:41 PM (JDIKC)

669 No individual has any right to come into the world and go out of it without leaving behind him distinct and legitimate reasons for having passed through it. And thus my legacy, the PeeNut.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington Carver Said Vol III at August 27, 2013 09:43 PM (QupBk)

670 my favorite george washington carver quote:

"Some look at the world as it is and ask, Why? I look at the world and say, Let's get some fucking peanuts in the mix. Which, by the way, I invented. You're welcome."

Posted by: ace at August 27, 2013 09:45 PM (/IWYB)

671 Carver invented the peanut in order to k

Posted by: Ben at August 27, 2013 09:48 PM (xTHBC)

672 Kellogg invented peanut butter people used to eat it with corn flakes before they tried it with milk, later people started to eat Corn flakes with milk too

Posted by: Tmitsss at August 27, 2013 10:13 PM (Pa9vP)

673 GWC didn't invent the peanut, but he was the first to import it from Peruvia.

Posted by: Toure at August 27, 2013 10:22 PM (2yPl+)

674 I didn't watch the show, nor have I seen the video, I chose not to view it. And, having found this take on it, I'm glad I made that choice.
Everybody Is Missing Miley Cyrus's Sad And Devastating Messagehttp://tinyurl.com/o4fuuyw



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