EMT 5/20/18

How many EMT would a woodchuck chuck?

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, May 20, 2018. On this day in 1873 Levi Strauss and Jacob Davis received a U.S. patent for blue jeans with copper rivets. Thus Levis were born.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:52 AM (aC6Sd)

3 Some clues as to the motive of the TX school shooter.


http://tinyurl.com/y7mlh3ef

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

4 Trump is telling the DOJ and the FBI to release those documents related to putting a spy in his campaign to help Scankles.


http://tinyurl.com/ybjj2bar

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

5 G'mornin' Horde !

Thanks, krakatoa and Vic !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 20, 2018 05:53 AM (xJrIn)

6 Cohen file leaker caught in a lie and in addition he could go to jail for 5 years. If he does he will be the first in this mess to do so.


http://tinyurl.com/y8v4rual

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

7 Those new gun confiscation laws passed in FL, called 'Red Flag Laws' would have done nothing to prevent the TX school shooting. It has been said repeatedly gun control laws do not work and only hinder honest people.


http://tinyurl.com/y94yw7nn

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

8 But the Communist gov of CT doesn't believe in anything but gun confiscation. When these liberals tell you they only want common sense gun control laws they are lying out their ass. They want to illegally end the 2nd amendment and confiscate all guns from law abiding people.


http://tinyurl.com/y74fully

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

9 Ramirez



http://tinyurl.com/y97fhwb8


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:54 AM (mpXpK)

10 It really is a slow news morning today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

11 Coffee is up, how do you want it?

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:56 AM (aC6Sd)

12 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 20, 2018 05:58 AM (EyPfd)

13 Thanks Vic for the Newz

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2018 05:58 AM (8ikIW)

14 Coffee - hot, light cream and just a touch of some sweetener.

Why yes, a shot of whiskey will do nicely - thanks!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 06:01 AM (akHM/)

Saturday Night Open Thread (5/19/18 )

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Via my email this past week.


Ford Airplane - History Time

A Ford Airplane - AMAZING

This was 6 months BEFORE Pearl Harbor! Henry Ford was determined that he could mass produce bombers just as he had done with cars, so he built the Willow Run assembly plant in Michigan and proved it. It was the world's largest building under one roof at the time.

This film will absolutely blow you away - one B-24 every 55 minutes. . . and Ford had their own pilots to test them. and they had no recalls


ADOLF HITLER HAD NO IDEA THE U.S. WAS CAPABLE OF THIS KIND OF THING.


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The Saturday Night Joke


Kind of a cool way to take a casket to the cemetery.

A funeral procession pulled into Pressley Cemetery in South Carolina. Several car loads of family members followed a black truck towing a boat with a coffin in it.

A passer-by remarked, "That guy must have been a very avid fisherman.”

"Oh, he still is," remarked one of the mourners. "As a matter of fact, he's headed off to the lake as soon as we bury his wife."

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Well that is certainly one way to get rush hour traffic rolling again. The police don't care for rush hour traffic either, apparently.

Peters lost control of his vehicle after striking two other vehicles on the ramp. He emerged naked from his disabled vehicle and ran into the northbound lanes of I-95/64, police said. Witnesses said they saw him dancing and rolling around on the interstate before running back to the on-ramp.

Police said Peters then charged the Richmond officer who deployed his Taser in an effort to disable Peters. The Taser was ineffective, police said, so the officer fired his service weapon, striking Peters, who was unarmed.

Well, we know who won that pissing contest.


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The ONT Musical Interlude


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Be careful in the woods of Michigan. h/t redc1c4

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Meet Fred Garvin, male prostitute Genius Award Winner.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Lotters.

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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC.

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1 Ooh....first

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 19, 2018 09:37 PM (mMeIQ)

2 Nice

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 09:37 PM (R5lpX)

3 Yes

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 19, 2018 09:37 PM (mMeIQ)

4 I'll go get others

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 19, 2018 09:38 PM (mMeIQ)

5 Early! Thanks!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 09:38 PM (kufk0)

6 Bon soir, mes otteurs.

Posted by: Miklos, international intern at May 19, 2018 09:39 PM (zCyNd)

7 L'Otters.

L'LOL.

Posted by: shibumi, feeling French at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (0s3bJ)

8 Just finished watching Do Over with Adam Sandler and David Spade. Funny movie, which brings to mind what my wife said...Sandler has successfully created his own modern version of the Rat Pack.

Also watched the original School of Scoundrels last night from 1960.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (R5lpX)

9 Lurker in the house!!!

Posted by: BigZesty at May 19, 2018 09:41 PM (9cZ+H)

10 Is this the ont?

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 09:41 PM (UdKB7)

11 Korean singing show winner is pretty bad:

youtube.com/watch?v=hiBPUpCJ7MQ

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 09:42 PM (LNPd9)

12 Is this the ont?

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 09:41 PM (UdKB7)

L'ONTers.

Posted by: Miklos, glass half full at May 19, 2018 09:42 PM (zCyNd)

13 I thought it said Lottery
Don't wanna win that one

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:43 PM (hMwEB)

14 What a nice surprise -- an early ONT. Hola everyone.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:43 PM (Ju3ed)

15 Woot ONT. Love the cat joke up top. Now to check out all the other content.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 09:43 PM (84F5k)

16 Those boys from Texas...hope they shoot "lotters" better than they spell!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 09:44 PM (kufk0)

17 I don't see anything odd about that cat. All cats are weird. It's what they do.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:44 PM (Ju3ed)

18 I thought it said Lottery
Don't wanna win that one

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:43 PM (hMwEB)

In that case, you get shot with a Powerball.

Posted by: Miklos, glass less than half full at May 19, 2018 09:44 PM (zCyNd)

19 You had ONE job.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:44 PM (dUJdY)

20 Lotters stole the prises from the spelin be.

Posted by: Miklos, glass refilled at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (zCyNd)

21 How did they spell "sight" right, after missing "looters" and "shot"?

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (JGBbg)

22 Lotters are people, too. They have a right to be. But Looters, that's a different thing ain't it?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (Ju3ed)

23 HEY THE CRAPITALS HAVE LOST 3 IN A ROW !

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 09:46 PM (y3aQB)

24 Dirty Lotter Scoundrels

Posted by: Miklos, AKA Rupprecht at May 19, 2018 09:47 PM (zCyNd)

25 Got a whole lotter love.

Posted by: Tex Zepplin at May 19, 2018 09:47 PM (UdKB7)

26 Just to be safe, I wouldn't loiter around there, either.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (JGBbg)

27 How did they spell "sight" right, after missing "looters" and "shot"?

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (JGBbg)

They misspelled that too. It should say "shot on site".

Posted by: Miklos, teleshooter at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (zCyNd)

28 Heh @ that coffin in the fishing boat and joke.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (pvjTE)

29 Looks like Mueller has come up empty on Russian collusion and anything criminal done by Trump. That stereotypical Nazi looking clown should go back and hide before someone starts looking at him.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (kWrQ3)

30
Lotters, Gawd I loathe the lot of 'em!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 09:49 PM (pNxlR)

31 woot woot SNOT

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (y87Qq)

32 All your lotters are be shoot by us.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (sBHZx)

33 I had a chat today with a guy who is not exactly with the FBI, but who has connections. He said he was appalled by the stuff that started coming out about Comey et al. (just as most of us were). But when he asked a good friend who is a veteran agent, he learned that the rank and file were also disgusted. This is what I have always thought must be the case. No, they didn't all resign in protest, but why should they anyway? No need to fall on a grenade when you can just jump behind a wall and wait for events, dear boy, events to take place. As they are.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (Ju3ed)

34 Currently watching a documentary on Fred MacMurray on Amazon Prime. It's good, interesting.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (yJ1e6)

35 Svengoolie is over. What now?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (+Tibp)

36 Thanks for the Nick Lowe songs.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at May 19, 2018 09:51 PM (yScAF)

37 Another Nick Lowe sighting???

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 09:51 PM (EzdLW)

38 so, watching the pilot of Sliders for the first time.

LOL @sliding into the Pleistocene.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 09:51 PM (6FqZa)

39
We oughter change the lotter water

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (pNxlR)

40 1 - And another fun ONT - Thank you MisHum!

That Ford B-24 item is da bomb!

II) I can *never* express enough my gratitude to The Horde for your love, prayers and support the past year and a half.

C. mrs ibguy uis out of town for the weekend, visiting the daughters, so went to shul by myself this morning (first time ever solo, which is weird). Was fine until Mourner's Kaddish, and I came >this< close to losing it. Hunh.

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (vUcdz)

41 Batman. The Green Hornet is on it.

Posted by: Tex Zepplin at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (UdKB7)

42 Wary

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (iTpm7)

43 Just dawned on me this afternoon that next weekend is Memorial Day weekend. I booked a show for Friday and Saturday months ago not realizing it was Memorial weekend. Well fuck. My three day weekend got winnowed down to a regular weekend because I'm a retard.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (dUJdY)

44 There's a whole lotter opportunity for pun-ishment here.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (Ju3ed)

45 MH, I always enjoy those gorgeous photos you often use but that cat is going to leave me smiling for a long time. Thanks.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (V+03K)

46 Every 55 minutes. That war was over before it began.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (+Tibp)

47 Hey Miley!! *does Forest Gump wave

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (dUJdY)

48 Whole lotter shakin' going on

Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (zCyNd)

49 Thanks MH.
Been around this place 10 years.
Best ont, or any other cob in that time.
Just one man's opinion.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (Ixqnq)

50 Currently watching a documentary on Fred MacMurray on Amazon Prime. It's good, interesting.
Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (yJ1e6)


Considering all the movies he's done, I ought to be ashamed that the only one I can ever picture him in is The Caine Mutiny. On the other hand, The Caine Mutiny is a really really good movie, so... meh.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (y87Qq)

51 lol,
the Genius Award Winner's boss, saying about him "I liked Lynn. I still like Lynn. He would give you the shirt off his back. He would do anything for you."

Dude solicited sex from male prostitute

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (EzdLW)

52 Evening, y'all.

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 09:54 PM (lQn8Y)

53 MacMurry lost his reputation as a good guy when he played the bad guy in The Apartment. It really put people off on him.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (Ju3ed)

54 Ibguy.. so sorry about your sister. I saw on the sidebar she has passed and wanted to extend my thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (dUJdY)

55 Oh, we're the boys of the chorus
We hope you like our show
We know you're rooting for us
But now we have to gooooooooo!

Posted by: Les Boys at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (+Tibp)

56 He would do anything for you."

No one is claiming HE asked for money.

Posted by: Second shift Miklos at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (zCyNd)

57
He stopped, bent down and stared at the scat. He spat.

"Lotters," he said, "Pair of 'em, and one's wearing a Depend undergarment."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (pNxlR)

58 Don't muss with Toxas

Posted by: lotter shooters at May 19, 2018 09:56 PM (EzdLW)

59 27 How did they spell "sight" right, after missing "looters" and "shot"?

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (JGBbg)

They misspelled that too. It should say "shot on site".

Posted by: Miklos, teleshooter at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (zCyNd)

++++

Nope. Looters should be shot when you see than, not when they step on the property.

But, the sign should have gone with "cite". That would have been wrong either way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:56 PM (pvjTE)

60 lol,
the Genius Award Winner's boss, saying about him "I liked Lynn. I still like Lynn. He would give you the shirt off his back. He would do anything for you."

Dude solicited sex from male prostitute
Posted by: Hands

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: half of DC at May 19, 2018 09:56 PM (sBHZx)

61 54 Jewells45

Thank you, ma'am.

Must admit, it's rather unnerving not posting BSU's any more.

Worse still it took me 'til darn near the end to even figure out that I *could* abbreviate to BSU.

/facepalm

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (vUcdz)

62 The other night, I shot a lotter in my pajamas...

Posted by: Zombie Groucho Marx at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (EzdLW)

63
53 MacMurry lost his reputation as a good guy when he played the bad guy in The Apartment. It really put people off on him.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (Ju3ed)


He didn't come off so good in The Caine Mutiny, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (pNxlR)

64 I was just talking about Bruce Lee earlier and now he's on Batman on MeTV.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (UdKB7)

65 How did they spell "sight" right, after missing "looters" and "shot"?

Posted by: mikeski


There isn't a consistency filter in Photoshop is why.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (LNPd9)

66 The NYT attempted spin I saw today was the hilarious ever.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (kWrQ3)

67 What was a lotter doing in your pajamas? *required response*

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (Ju3ed)

68 Ibguy.. so sorry about your sister. I saw on the sidebar she has passed and wanted to extend my thoughts and prayers to you and your family.
Posted by: Jewells45

Same here. My condolences.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (sBHZx)

69 Those boys from Texas...hope they shoot "lotters" better than they spell!!

Posted by: lin-duh
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Isn't that pic from Ferguson?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 09:58 PM (NY0r1)

70 MacMurry lost his reputation as a good guy when he played the bad guy in The Apartment. It really put people off on him.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (Ju3ed)

He blamed it on a fit of absentmindedness, and donated all his royalties from flubber to charity.

Posted by: short shift Miklos at May 19, 2018 09:58 PM (zCyNd)

71
62 The other night, I shot a lotter in my pajamas...
Posted by: Zombie Groucho Marx at May 19, 2018 09:57 PM (EzdLW)


How'd it wind up wearing your jammies?

* ba-da bump tssss *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 09:58 PM (pNxlR)

72 Hitler also did not know that the Soviets had over 22,000 tanks in inventory in 1941 with the new T-34 already rolling off the assembly lines.

The Germans had about 6,000.









Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 09:58 PM (EoRCO)

73 68 Prince Ludwig

Thank you.

Hubby has scheduled a Memorial Service for her on June 4th. I'm on the fence about flying sown, because our connection was with Joyce, not him or Daughter.

We'll see.

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (vUcdz)

74 LRA

Les Otters Resistance Army

Les Otters Rule!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (0tfLf)

75 I guess Caine Mutiny made me think of it but has anyone been watching The Terror? Holy shit.. great show, top notch acting. I'm getting ready to watch episode 10 tomorrow.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (dUJdY)

76 The Germans learned about Soviet tanks at the Battle of Kursk. Not fun for the Nasties.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (Ju3ed)

77 Nick Lowe's so hot in that vid.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (uJ09Y)

78 He would do anything for you.

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And when I say "anything" . . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 10:00 PM (+y/Ru)

79

Aspiring rapper L'Otter E.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 10:00 PM (IqV8l)

80 YOU win a L'ottery and YOU win a L'ottery and YOU win a L'ottery.... You ALL win a L'ottery!


Posted by: L'Oppruh at May 19, 2018 10:00 PM (QzJWU)

81 Was fine until Mourner's Kaddish, and I came >this
Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (vUcdz)


Very sorry for your loss. From your updates, it's obvious that Joyce touched the lives of many people and they loved her for that.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2018 10:00 PM (5Yee7)

82 Hi ibguy, I put up a post about your friend's book.
link in nic

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:00 PM (hMwEB)

83 Willowed from previous thread. I love that beach shot of Col Kilgore so much that embrassingly I have Charlie don't surf on a tattoo .

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at May 19, 2018 10:01 PM (Nv7Oi)

84 http://bit.ly/2LhfJaS
+++++
Senator Chuck Grassley Asks Rod Rosenstein if He Gave Mueller Independent FISA Authority The Last Refuge

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 10:01 PM (y3aQB)

85 In case you stop in NaCly, Gary told me last night that True North got asked to headline the party the night before the "official start" of the country stampede this year.

I'll be there helping out and, well, partying.
At least what passes for partying for this old man any more.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 10:01 PM (Ixqnq)

86 I didn't do it.

This time.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (NY0r1)

87 fucking otters

Posted by: Gollum at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (HlG5d)

88
Considering all the movies he's done, I ought to be ashamed that the only one I can ever picture him in is The Caine Mutiny. On the other hand, The Caine Mutiny is a really really good movie, so... meh.


Check out Double Indemnity, where he teamed up with Barbara Stanwyck and Edmund G Robinson.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (pNxlR)

89 Isn't that pic from Ferguson?
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That door those shoters are standing in front of is painter like the Texas flag.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (kufk0)

90 And so early in the evening.

Hey, say hello to logprof while you're down there.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (NY0r1)

91
MacMurry lost his reputation as a good guy when he played the bad guy in The Apartment. It really put people off on him.

He didn't come off so good in The Caine Mutiny, either.


Or as an insurance salesman.

Being versatile and convincing is what makes an actor, right?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 10:03 PM (IqV8l)

92 Ha. Just recently read a book about WWII production in the US (Forge of Freedom).


Actually, Willow Run was the obsession/project of Ford's production guy at the time - whose name escapes me. Volatile character. Had actual fist fights with other executives at the Willow Run plant early on, when things were not taking off as hoped.


He was the successor to Big Bill Knudsen, who moved to GM from Ford and helped make it the dominant auto company. He was also Roosevelt's key guy prior to Pearl Harbor in organizing private industry for military production.


Ford himself was strongly isolationist/pacifist/opposed to involvement in war production, until Pearl Harbor. Pretty amazing story, after FDR called on Knudsen to head up the mobilization effort, Knudsen immediately quit GM and launched into the task.


One of the best episodes was a meeting Knudsen convened, in Detroit, of all the key auto industry players (his long-time colleagues and competitors), at which he basically went around the room, asking things like "Who can handle large forgings? Who can make aviation engines?".


Book said that roughly 20% of all US war production was done by the auto industry (anybody here have a Saginaw Steering M-1 carbine?). Partly of course because it was the largest best organized mass production entity in the economy, and partly thanks to Knudsen's incredibly efforts, and those of his successors (he moved to the Army Air Corps, was the only civilian ever made a major general, and was a global troubleshooter for Gen. Hap Arnold).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:03 PM (QDnY+)

93 We're still burning daylight out here in Moab, and it's ONT time!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:03 PM (Ju3ed)

94 Okay, at the piece on bacon and doughnuts being used to lure black bears (look out, Ron Funches!) there's a link to the new fad among the Ladies Who Lunch, called "brieing" -- MDMA wrapped in cheese:

https://tinyurl.com/yce99y5h

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 10:03 PM (qJtVm)

95 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2018 10:03 PM (KCxzN)

96 Hitler also did not know that the Soviets had over 22,000 tanks in inventory in 1941 with the new T-34 already rolling off the assembly lines.

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Both the T-34 and the Il-2 ground attack aircraft were just going operational when Hitler struck. Both proved very effective against the Krauts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 10:04 PM (+y/Ru)

97 Beware of Otter and all the Delta's

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:04 PM (n13/j)

98 Muldoon otter have some clever comments tonight.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:04 PM (ga0eq)

99 "Hey, say hello to logprof while you're down there"

Logprof is still in the barrel??? Quick get him out before he mutates!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 10:04 PM (UdKB7)

100 50 Currently watching a documentary on Fred MacMurray on Amazon Prime. It's good, interesting.
Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (yJ1e6)

Considering all the movies he's done, I ought to be ashamed that the only one I can ever picture him in is The Caine Mutiny. On the other hand, The Caine Mutiny is a really really good movie, so... meh.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (y87Qq)

++++

Perhaps you are forgetting Double Indemnity? If not, I recommend you correct that oversight posthaste. It's a great movie.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 10:05 PM (pvjTE)

101 That door those shoters are standing in front of is painter like the Texas flag.

Posted by: lin-duh
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Oh. In my mind I remember white guys dressed like that at some riot zone.

Did they have a riot in Texas?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:05 PM (NY0r1)

102 I guess Caine Mutiny made me think of it but has anyone been watching The Terror? Holy shit.. great show, top notch acting. I'm getting ready to watch episode 10 tomorrow.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (dUJdY)


I hadn't heard of it, but it really looks like something I'd like. Do you know if it's on any streaming service? There's a thing on the AMC website that says "You can watch video extras and free full episodes even if you don't have a supported cable provider" but it doesn't say how.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:05 PM (y87Qq)

103 {{{teej}}}

Just popped in and saw your comment. I can hear Country Stampede from my house with the right wind. And we always count on rain over the venue. We see that also.

So, are we going to get together in Manhattan? That would be fantastic, and ... unexpected.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:06 PM (hyuyC)

104 Considering all the movies he's done, I ought to be ashamed that the only one I can ever picture him in is The Caine Mutiny. On the other hand, The Caine Mutiny is a really really good movie, so... meh.

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It was no Son of Flubber, but....

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:06 PM (ga0eq)

105 The NYT spin was that Trump made some crazy claims about Obama administration interference in a presidential election, when that is exactly what happened.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (kWrQ3)

106 MacMurry lost his reputation as a good guy when he played the bad guy in The Apartment. It really put people off on him.

He didn't come off so good in The Caine Mutiny, either.

Or as an insurance salesman.

Being versatile and convincing is what makes an actor, right?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


And he went on to "My Three Sons". The man had range.

Another bad guy who went good is Raymond Burr.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (+lVUW)

107 75 I guess Caine Mutiny made me think of it but has anyone been watching The Terror? Holy shit.. great show, top notch acting. I'm getting ready to watch episode 10 tomorrow.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:59 PM (dUJdY)
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I love it, it's horrible and I can't look away.

I was reading about all the attempts to find the Northwest Passage and it always seemed to end in scurvy, cannibalism, and death.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (qJtVm)

108 No riots I know of in Texas but during hurricanes they have issues...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (kufk0)

109
If you like the water,Then you really otter,
Learn how to swimAt the YMCA!

Posted by: Old Jingle at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (HlG5d)

110 I guess Caine Mutiny made me think of it but has anyone been watching The Terror? Holy shit.. great show, top notch acting. I'm getting ready to watch episode 10 tomorrow.
Posted by: Jewells45

I've been watching and it's both fascinating and top notch quality. Can't wait for the finale on Monday.

Posted by: Les Boys at May 19, 2018 10:08 PM (+Tibp)

111
Her Majesty just arrived at her first stop for the night in Salina, Kansas. So Step 1 of her drive to Richland is over. Cheyenne is the next stop, then Salt Lake City, then Twin Falls.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 10:08 PM (KhZeB)

112 The thing about the role in The Apartment was that he was cheating on his Mrs. Didn't go over well back in the early 60s.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:08 PM (Ju3ed)

113 "Did they have a riot in Texas?'

Remeber the Allamo!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 10:08 PM (UdKB7)

114 Those boys from Texas...hope they shoot "lotters" better than they spell"

Indeed.

And yes, it's a Photoshop.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 10:08 PM (7LY+6)

115 was reading about all the attempts to find the Northwest Passage and it always seemed to end in scurvy, cannibalism, and death.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Don't forget the sodomy!

Posted by: Les Boys at May 19, 2018 10:09 PM (+Tibp)

116 Being versatile and convincing is what makes an actor, right?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
-----------------------------

He was a leading man and played serious villains in the 30s.

Yes, he was a true actor.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:09 PM (NY0r1)

117 Another great McMurray/ Stanwyck pic is "Remember the Night". The very idea that Stanwyck never won an Oscar is shameful. She in good company though, along with Cary Grant, Deb Kerr, Hitch and others. But of course Hilary Swank has won two. All makes sense don't it ??

Posted by: REDACTED at May 19, 2018 10:09 PM (Ymy4N)

118 I work less than three miles (as the crow flies) from the Willow Run airport

the air museum at Willow Run still flies a B-17 & a B-25

we're right on the glide path (turning off of base onto final); was overflown by the B-25 half a dozen times on Friday

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (KCxzN)

119 Hey everybody. Been noticing license plate slogans lately.

New Hampshire: "Live Free Or Die"
Kentucky: "In God We Trust"
California: "Spay & Neuter Saves Lives"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (eMKNe)

120 Those Texans really don't like Trent Lott supporters...

Posted by: short shrift Miklos at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (zCyNd)

121 Both the T-34 and the Il-2 ground attack aircraft were just going operational when Hitler struck. Both proved very effective against the Krauts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

It helped that the Hun made 1200 Tiger tanks during the course of the war, the Soviets made 1200 T-34s a month (in factories we built for them. You're welcome Vlad)
Production wins wars.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (sBHZx)

122 66 The NYT attempted spin I saw today was the hilarious ever.
Posted by: Cm9000


You know someone is lacking in character and integrity when they screw up and can't manage a decent apology.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (+lVUW)

123 Hitler also did not know that the Soviets had over 22,000 tanks in inventory in 1941 with the new T-34 already rolling off the assembly lines.

The Germans had about 6,000.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 09:58 PM (EoRCO)


The Germans had a complete failure in intelligence-gathering concerning Soviet tanks. The Germans thought that their Panzer III tanks with the short 50mm guns would be a match for the Soviet tanks. The Germans were still using the 37mm PAK anti-tank gun for their infantry.

The Germans were shocked once they encountered the Soviet heavy tanks. I read a contemporary account where the Germans were employing 105mm howitzers in a direct-fire role during Operation Barbarrosa in 1941.

By 1943, the Germans had developed better tanks but the Soviets had overwhelming numbers. As they say, quantity has a quality all its own.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (5Yee7)

124 The Ottermo?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (IqV8l)

125 Ibguy. I know funerals/memorials are more for the immediate family than the deceased; but I would encourage you to go or at least send a letter or video statement of what Joyce meant to you.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (84F5k)

126 81 RBC

Thank you! Looking forward to next SWOHMoMe.

82 votermom

Saw that - Thank You!!

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (vUcdz)

127 New Hampshire: "Live Free Or Die"
Kentucky: "In God We Trust"
California: "Spay & Neuter Saves Lives"
Posted by: qdpsteve

Oklahoma is OK.

No shit. OK. Meh

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (+Tibp)

128
I read that Willow Run, while eventually putting out B-24s at a fast clip, had a lot of teething pains and didn't hit projected rates until 1944.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (KhZeB)

129 Hogmartin, I really don't know. We are still attached to cable, for now. Not sure if it can be streamed but my son wanted to watch Walking Dead after he cut the cord and hasn't been able to.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (dUJdY)

130 As they say, quantity has a quality all its own.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (5Yee7)

Just roll us in flour...

Posted by: Fat Chicks Everywhere at May 19, 2018 10:12 PM (zCyNd)

131 The German 88s were originally meant to be AA guns, but they used them as anti-tank weapons to good effect.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:12 PM (Ju3ed)

132 Blutarski, OK ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:12 PM (eMKNe)

133 Hadrian the Seventh

Salina is pretty peaceful these days. Still a lot of aviators training there. But Her Majesty is safe from the ubiquitous drone operator wannabes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:12 PM (hyuyC)

134 Was reading about WW1 yesterday.

The more I learn about it, the more it sounds to me like it could be described as a giant geopolitical barroom brawl.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:13 PM (eMKNe)

135 Mass " we're full up with massholes"

Posted by: REDACTED at May 19, 2018 10:13 PM (Ymy4N)

136 125 PaleRider

Agreed and understood. Hence the ambivalence. But it looks like a fair number of her friends (and perhaps some family) will be there, which is why I'm currently leaning slightly towards going.

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 10:13 PM (vUcdz)

137 I'll try to figure out how to make it work.
What I probably will have to do is fine a way to park my ride outside the backstage area then hop in the vehicle with the band to ride on in.

They get really persnickity about such things there.

If not at the stampede we'll get something set up to get together over your way.
And if you get the chance and still have my email, could you shoot me a short hello so I can write yours down.
Can't get my cheap phone to save to contacts.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 10:14 PM (Ixqnq)

138 Oklahoma is OK.

No shit. OK. Meh

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (+Tibp)

You can ask for "Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains" but you have to pay for three plates

Posted by: Miklos collects vanity armadillo plates at May 19, 2018 10:14 PM (zCyNd)

139 Batman and The Green Hornet vs Harry Mudd.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 10:14 PM (IqV8l)

140 The Otterman Empire might have dominated Europe except that shallfish population collapsed during the Last Glacial Maximum.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:14 PM (ga0eq)

141 L'Otters better be afraid.

Posted by: French-Canadian Fur Trappers at May 19, 2018 10:14 PM (WU8si)

142 Production wins wars.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (sBHZx)


"We lost the Balkans and Ukraine. They're moving on Russia now."
"Where do we make the tanks?"
"Here, in the east."
"Move them all a couple hundred miles away from the lines... here."
"The tanks?"
"The factories. And the workers."

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:15 PM (y87Qq)

143 The NYT spin was classic. Brennan probliibly was the source.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 10:15 PM (kWrQ3)

144 Hadrian, correct, as I noted above, Willow Run had a rough start. As I recall from the book, a lot of progress was made when they started farming out sub-assemblies, and doing final assembly at Willow Run. That allowed them to hit full potential.


Interesting story, when the Ford team flew to San Diego to study how Consolidated built the B-24, they discovered that unlike their auto production, there were constant design tweaks and changes, and a lot of "craft" type production - hand-fitting and finishing. Not true flexible mass production. They had to transform the B-24's plans into the kind with tight tolerances in order to go to mass production.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:16 PM (QDnY+)

145 So, Henry was gearing up for WWII, actually in production for WWII 6 months before it started.

Puts a little dent in the stories of him being a Nazi sympathizer the likes of Joseph Lobotomy.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:16 PM (NY0r1)

146 Evening, Horde. Posting from an alternate computer. My regular machine cacked out on me. I think the hard drive controller is gerfookt. It won't boot from either the Win7 hard disc, or from the XP hard disc. I did get it booted from a rescue disc, and it's running a disc analyzer program in a Linux environment. Slow process. Finding a kinds of errors.

Anyhow, I am posting from an eMachine on which I loaded Linux Mint 18.1 and it's working OK. Mozilla Firefox is the default browser, so I got to see all the ads.

Once the disk exam is over, I may power things down, and move my Win7 drive to this machine, and see if it will boot. If it does, then that confirms a bad controller on the other machine's MB, I guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 10:17 PM (dOgJt)

147 Sometimes even the most fearsome vehicle of war can be taken down by a simple thing, like when the Joker shot down the Batmobile with a long-barreled .38 special.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:18 PM (Ju3ed)

148 Anyhow, I am posting from an eMachine on which I loaded Linux Mint 18.1 and it's working OK.

Meh, OK. Like Oklahoma

Posted by: Will Rogers at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (+Tibp)

149 PA is boring, instead of a motto it has "visitpa.com"

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (hMwEB)

150 Salina, Hadrian?
And headed west on, I presume I-70?
She could have waved south to me as she went through Topeka and north to NaCly as she went past the Manhattan exit.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (Ixqnq)

151 "We lost the Balkans and Ukraine. They're moving on Russia now."
"Where do we make the tanks?"
"Here, in the east."
"Move them all a couple hundred miles away from the lines... here."
"The tanks?"
"The factories. And the workers."
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:15 PM (y87Qq)


One of my theories about China's "Ghost Cities" is that they're practice/cover for preparing to move large portions of the manufacturing base beyond range of US carrier-based strikes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (Tnhbr)

152 PA is boring, full stop.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (Ju3ed)

153 Anyhow, I am posting from an eMachine
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 10:17 PM (dOgJt)


*stunned awe*

...are you a wizard?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:20 PM (y87Qq)

154 PA is boring, instead of a motto it has "visitpa.com"

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:19 PM (hMwEB)

We'll see about that.

Posted by: Ma, you never visit your old Ma at May 19, 2018 10:20 PM (zCyNd)

155 Interesting story, when the Ford team flew to San Diego to study how Consolidated built the B-24, they discovered that unlike their auto production, there were constant design tweaks and changes, and a lot of "craft" type production - hand-fitting and finishing. Not true flexible mass production. They had to transform the B-24's plans into the kind with tight tolerances in order to go to mass production.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:16 PM (QDnY+)


So you're saying what we need is a war...

Posted by: Elon Musk at May 19, 2018 10:20 PM (Tnhbr)

156 Was reading about WW1 yesterday.

The more I learn about it, the more it sounds to me like it could be described as a giant geopolitical barroom brawl.

Posted by: qdpsteve
******************

THey say if the queen had still been alive she would have taken those cousins by the ear and settled the matter quickly.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:21 PM (NY0r1)

157
New Jersey: Come for the Casinos, Stay for the Brown Fields Reclamation Sites

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 10:21 PM (pNxlR)

158 eMachines! Haven't heard that term in a long time.
They were big in the early 90s along with Packard Bell.

Anybody else remember the Power Macs? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (eMKNe)

159 Hey everybody. Been noticing license plate slogans lately.

Saw a Colorado plate that said "Honorably Discharged Veteran".

I wonder if they print a "Dishonorably Discharged" one, too? Gotta be inclusive.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (JGBbg)

160 I miss cats and other stuff. Guess that's ONT

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (l9m7l)

161 One of my theories about China's "Ghost Cities" is that they're practice/cover for preparing to move large portions of the manufacturing base beyond range of US carrier-based strikes.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Good in theory, but you can't escape rods from God.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (sBHZx)

162 If we have enough production there is no need for war. Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (Ju3ed)

163 Interesting story, when the Ford team flew to San Diego to study how Consolidated built the B-24, they discovered that unlike their auto production, there were constant design tweaks and changes, and a lot of "craft" type production - hand-fitting and finishing.

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So, like Jaguars.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (ga0eq)

164 AOP maybe you'll prefer Mint to Windows

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (hMwEB)

165
Delaware: Only Three Counties and One Has More Chickens Than People

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (pNxlR)

166 Hogmartin, I really don't know. We are still attached to cable, for now. Not sure if it can be streamed but my son wanted to watch Walking Dead after he cut the cord and hasn't been able to.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 10:11 PM (dUJdY)

-------------------

Has your son checked out Sling?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 10:23 PM (+F0Wk)

167 Watching the end of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith.

If I was Ewan McGregor, I'd be ashamed.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 10:23 PM (+Tibp)

168 THey say if the queen had still been alive she would have taken those cousins by the ear and settled the matter quickly.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:21 PM (NY0r1)

Even as kids they fought over the rubber duchies.

Posted by: Miklos, historical revisionist at May 19, 2018 10:23 PM (zCyNd)

169 Krebs, I thought it was "NJ: Come for the casinos, stay because a mobster wannabe or MS13 stuck you in a shallow grave"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:23 PM (eMKNe)

170 Krebs, around a year ago we did what should be all the states' actual slogans.

One I remember, because I came up with it: "Maine: Nothing like what Stephen King says."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)

171 Hey everybody. Been noticing license plate slogans lately.



New Hampshire: "Live Free Or Die"

Kentucky: "In God We Trust"

California: "Spay Neuter Saves Lives"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (eMKNe)

Connecticut: "The Nutmeg State".

It's one of those things you never think about until you need it.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:24 PM (n13/j)

172 Anybody else remember the Power Macs? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (eMKNe)


How many do you need? I got a 7100, two 8500/120s, a PowerBook 3400c, and a PowerBase 240 clone, but that one's got BeOS on it.

I think they all boot, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:24 PM (y87Qq)

173 teej

Sent

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:24 PM (hyuyC)

174 Good in theory, but you can't escape rods from God.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (sBHZx)


No, but I fully expect in a war against a near-peer, for satellites to be non-existent after the first few days. And with dispersed manufacturing you'd need a lot of rods to try and kill everything.

Posted by: Elon Musk at May 19, 2018 10:24 PM (Tnhbr)

175 MO - The Showme State. That's where I was spawned.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:25 PM (Ju3ed)

176 THey say if the queen had still been alive she would have taken those cousins by the ear and settled the matter quickly.
Posted by: gNewt

That would've been great. The Great War ending by the Kaiser and Austrian Emperor being ordered to London and having to say "Sorry, Gran".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:25 PM (sBHZx)

177 FL probably should have Crazies R Us as a motto.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (Ju3ed)

178 I love me some Nick Lowe. Saw him when he was in Little Village with Ry Cooder, Jim Hiatt and Jim Keltner. They only did two albums and one tour. Glad I saw them. One of my favorite concerts ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw1SCbpwnwE

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (RfzVr)

179 hogmartin, are they still upgradeable? And would any of them take Mac OS Sierra? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)

180 26 Just to be safe, I wouldn't loiter around there, either.

Posted by: mikeski


Or litter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (0ogQG)

181 gNewt, according to this last book I read, Henry was bitterly opposed to involvement in war production, and turned Knudsen down flat when first approached about joining other companies in his pre-war mobilization. This was 1940. FDR finally panicked and called in Knudsen as the Brits were evacuating Dunkirk.


Forget when Ford finally came on board, but I think Edsel was really running the company at that point. Don't know about Ford's other possible motives, but for whatever reason he was a firm "no", and the only big one, when Knudsen first went around trying to get things going.


And recall things *were* going before Pearl Harbor. In shipbuilding - Kaiser was already jumping into the sector and bringing his new methods - but most of the product was going to the UK. The US military mobilization acquisitions actually suffered greatly as much of the ramped up production went to the UK, prior to Pearl Harbor. Of course after that, production increased astronomically, and the US consumed the bulk of it.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (QDnY+)

182 Pretty sure they're changing CT to "We're Screwed"

Posted by: pretty sure at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (Ymy4N)

183 I still have 3 Power Macs. I have an ibook, an all in one (that's dead) and the G5 with an aluminum case. I'm keeping the ibook (which I had to dismantle to Put in a hard drive) but will get rid of the others. I'm done with Macs, but I am the one tech at work that seems to know something about them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (Lqy/e)

184 Who needs RFG's when we have nukes? Lots and lots of nukes.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (Ju3ed)

185 "California: Land of Fruits and Nuts"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

186 Kansas: "You're Not In Kansas Anymore. Oh Wait. Yes You Are."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (ga0eq)

187 168 Miklos

/golf clap

Posted by: ibguy at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (vUcdz)

188 Thanks NaCly.

And we had a plate years back...

Kansas - Land of Ahhhs

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (Ixqnq)

189 saw a comment earlier that Queen Liz at age 90 navigates stairs more easily than Hillary

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (hMwEB)

190 Henry Ford was really an unbearable peacenik in WWI. Once all of Yerp had laughed him around and patted a flat spot on his head for trying to convene his own peace conference, he presented the government with a scheme to mass produce tanks based on Model T components. It didn't take.
It was during his anger at the small-mindedness of the old European interests that he was introduced to "Protocols of The Elders of Zion," someone said by the president of the Sloan Valve Company ("Royal Silent Flush") of Chicago.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2018 10:27 PM (rtvho)

191 Every 55 minutes. That war was over before it began.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (+Tibp)

That's what Yamamoto warned his political masters of. They didn't believe either. Six months after Pearl, the IJN was stopped at Coral Sea, then wrecked beyond recovery at Midway. The Japanese launched only one other carrier before the war ended, and she was sunk before fitting out. We launched what, 35 fleet and light carriers, plus an untold number of escort carriers.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 10:28 PM (brIR5)

192 Oklahoma: You probably didn't know we mostly speak English.

Mostly.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 10:28 PM (+Tibp)

193 Cicero, I hear Hillary visited Kansas once but she ended up underneath a house...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:28 PM (eMKNe)

194 Wyoming: "Like Idaho, But Farther East."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:28 PM (ga0eq)

195 I have owned more than 30 Macs and never had one fail. They are well built. I also owned a company that had a PC-based management system, and those fuckers were always going tits up.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:28 PM (Ju3ed)

196 Fred MacMurray played Bob in The Egg and I

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 10:29 PM (2K6fY)

197 175 MO - The Showme State. That's where I was spawned.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:25 PM (Ju3ed)

I self- identify with MO

Posted by: Jared Fogel at May 19, 2018 10:29 PM (Ymy4N)

198 You can't upgrade Power Macs above Tiger. Newer Intel based ones can be upgraded. And there's not much development for Linux on Power Macs either.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (Lqy/e)

199 And would any of them take Mac OS Sierra? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)


macOS hasn't supported PowerPC since Leopard, about 10 years ago.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (y87Qq)

200 Thought CT was the "Constitution State". For some time I've found that darkly humorous, as (like many other states) CT does not seem to produce any public or elected figure with the slightest understanding of, or regard for, the US constitution.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (QDnY+)

201 Utah! Gateway to Nevada

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (+Tibp)

202 North Dakota: "Holding The Line Against Canada Since 1889."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (ga0eq)

203 The beginning of the First World War had a terrible inevitability, based on long-standing grievances and alliances; after Nicky delivered the Second Balkan Wedgie, Willie's Purple Nurple response was foreordained...

Posted by: Miklos, historical revisionist at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (zCyNd)

204 Notsothoreau and hogmartin, drat.
If I could upgrade one to the current OS, I would consider working something out with you. Thanks anyway. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (eMKNe)

205 Hawaii: You're Gonna Lava Our Beaches.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:31 PM (Ju3ed)

206 Iowa: "Adventureland and Chuck Grassley. That's about it."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:31 PM (sBHZx)

207 teej

I had a Kansas flag with me and a Kansas Land of Ahs bumpersticker on my attache case while I was in the Navy.

Some people in Perth, Australia were mighty amused by that slogan.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:31 PM (hyuyC)

208 That would've been great. The Great War ending by the Kaiser and Austrian Emperor being ordered to London and having to say "Sorry, Gran".

Were the Austrian Hapsburgs related to Victoria? That would have crossed the Rome/Wurms line.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (brIR5)

209 Ooooh, Dave Edmunds.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (2NqXo)

210 MN doesn't even get their whole motto on their plates.

They just say "10,000 Lakes". Not "Land of [...]".

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (JGBbg)

211 And would any of them take Mac OS Sierra? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)

that reminds me, on our MacBook - the monitor brightness can't be adjusted anymore

I think it's some kind of driver issue

seems to have happened when hubby upgraded to High Sierra or whatever it's called

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (hMwEB)

212 Gotta get.
Gig last night really wore me out.
One twenty minute break in the middle of three hours.
Crowd appreciated it though,, and so did the owner.
Lots of compliments from folks who'd never heard us.

Night

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (Ixqnq)

213
AOP maybe you'll prefer Mint to Windows

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 10:22 PM (hMwEB)

I like it just fine. It's all I run on my desktop when I am in Arizona. But my main computer here has the two flavors of Windows because of work-related software.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (dOgJt)

214 Ruthless, I'm falling back in love with the Mac as well. I went from 2001 to 2016 without, but now am really enjoying my Mac Mini.

REALLY hoping some new Mac Minis later this year, with significantly more power and un-outrageous prices. (That latter wish is probably too much to hope for from Apple, alas.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:33 PM (eMKNe)

215 Just got out of a screening of Wrath of Khan with a long Q/A after with William Shatner.

Pretty fucking awesome.

Shatner is 82 years old and can command a stage with the best of them.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 19, 2018 10:33 PM (XrqEi)

216
200 Thought CT was the "Constitution State". For some time I've found that darkly humorous, as (like many other states) CT does not seem to produce any public or elected figure with the slightest understanding of, or regard for, the US constitution.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (QDnY+)



Pretty sure that's Delaware because they were the first to ratify.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2018 10:33 PM (cAnNx)

217 When I was a pup, I used to drive the lonely highways in ID and count maybe 100-150 dead jack rabbits per mile.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 19, 2018 10:33 PM (Ymy4N)

218 ''Being versatile and convincing is what makes an actor, right? ''

He was quite a good actor. If you watch enough TCM you'll find out he was paired with practically every leading lady in the 30's and 40's.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 10:33 PM (jm1YL)

219 Washington: "Neveux Riche Hippies"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (sBHZx)

220 Rhode Island: "What The Fuck Are You Looking At?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (ga0eq)

221 Thought CT was the "Constitution State". For some
time I've found that darkly humorous, as (like many other states) CT
does not seem to produce any public or elected figure with the slightest
understanding of, or regard for, the US constitution.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:30 PM (QDnY+)

I don't think the nutmeg thing was ever on a license plate, but it is one of their nicknames. It is funny and memorable. Unlike Connecticut politicians.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (n13/j)

222 I think the US total carrier production (including escort type, just converted freighters) was well over 100. Over 100. And the Essex class (the heart of the "new" US Navy that started showing up in 1943) was designed and planned prior to Pearl Harbor.


Odd factoid. According to that book, the GM properties (factories) in Germany were *never* utilized for German war production. I think they were damaged by Allied bombing, but apparently Todt and Speer never actually made use of them. Seems odd, though don't know details about these facilities.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (QDnY+)

223 Prince Ludwig, I'd go with:

"Iowa: deciding who you get to vote for for President for way too long now"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (eMKNe)

224 Hawaii: You're Gonna Lava Our Beaches.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:31 PM (Ju3ed)

Aren't all emergency lights in Hawaii lava lamps?

Posted by: Miklos, groovy, man at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (zCyNd)

225 Ruthless, LOL.

"Hawaii: Is it hot in here or is it just me?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (eMKNe)

226 Delaware: "First In The Nation, And Punch. But Mostly Punch."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (ga0eq)

227 That's "nouveau riche".
Stupid auto cucumber

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (sBHZx)

228 Aren't all emergency lights in Hawaii lava lamps?
Posted by: Miklos, groovy, man at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (zCyNd)


Tiki torches.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:35 PM (y87Qq)

229 Were the Austrian Hapsburgs related to Victoria? That would have crossed the Rome/Wurms line.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (brIR5)

No. The Hapsburgs were only related to each other.

Posted by: Brother Miklos, your friendly neighborhood Carpathian at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

230 Hawaii: You're Gonna Lava Our Beaches.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:31 PM (Ju3ed)



Hawaii: New Beach front property coming soon!

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (cAnNx)

231 I think Delaware was called "The First State", possibly the motto too. Thing is, I don't recall hearing from them since I kid, I kid.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (n13/j)

232 219 Washington: "Neveux Riche Hippies"


Nah, Washington: "We're Californias 'Mini Me."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (LOq4H)

233 "Hawaii: Come for the beaches, stay because you suffocated underneath a mountain of ash"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (eMKNe)

234 MN doesn't even get their whole motto on their plates.

They just say "10,000 Lakes". Not "Land of [...]".
Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:32 PM (JGBbg)

-----------------

Yeah, well, with 10,000 Lakes, we don't have a whole lot of land.

Though I'm convinced some of those lakes are little more than mud puddles after a storm.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 10:36 PM (+F0Wk)

235 "Hawaii: Come for the beaches, stay because one of our circuit court fed judges ordered you to become his personal slave"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (eMKNe)

236 North Dakota: "Holding The Line Against Canada Since 1889."
Posted by: Cicero


"Stay back, or the Peace Garden gets torched!"

"Hey, no need for that, eh?"

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (JGBbg)

237 191 Fox2! ISTR the real insiders knew that Japan was overmatched in WWII against the US. But the know-nothing militarists overruled them.

The military thought elan, submarines, the Long Lance, long-range aircraft and a hard core of aviators would prevail. They did, for 1.5 years. Then the bitter harvest came in.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (hyuyC)

238 Does this mountain make my ash look bigger?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (Ju3ed)

239 CT "where state troopers drive with a .24 BAC"

Posted by: REDACTED at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (Ymy4N)

240 Washington DC "10,000 Lawyers".

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:37 PM (n13/j)

241 buzzion, LOL.

Way things are going, Hawaii and California may be merging before too long...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:38 PM (eMKNe)

242 New Mexico: "Like Mexico, If Mexico Was Run By Real Americans"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:38 PM (ga0eq)

243 DC has a LOT more than ten thousand of those scum-suckers. I think I have read that about a third of the population are lawyers.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:38 PM (Ju3ed)

244 "Hawaii: We'll kick your ash!"

"Oregon: Like Portlandia but even worse"

Colorado: "We're, uh, really stoned right now"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:39 PM (eMKNe)

245 How's the Brave browser coming along?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:39 PM (NY0r1)

246 DC: "We got yer tax money bitch! Whatcha gonna do about it?!?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:40 PM (eMKNe)

247 Arkansas: We Gave You the Clintons, What Else Do You Want?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:40 PM (Ju3ed)

248 Those guys have gubs.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at May 19, 2018 10:40 PM (w7KSn)

249 Was reading about WW1 yesterday.

The more I learn about it, the more it sounds to me like it could be described as a giant geopolitical barroom brawl.

-
Thank God nothing like that could happen today. You see, in those days, the major European powers were governed by a bunch of buffoons whereas today . . . Ahhhh, ignore this post.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 10:41 PM (+y/Ru)

250 Ruthless, LOL.

"Arkansas: We're so, so sorry about Hillary"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:41 PM (eMKNe)

251 How's the Brave browser coming along?
Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:39 PM (NY0r1)


I split about 50/50 between Brave and Safari on iOS. They each have sites that they render better than the other. It's pretty nice on mobile but I haven't run it on a desktop OS or anything.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:42 PM (y87Qq)

252 Ruthless

They used to have an ambulance lead the DC lawyers 10K run.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:42 PM (hyuyC)

253 about to go out and throw a pork chop* on the fire for dinner...

BIAB!

*CBD would call it a pork roast, even though this chop is only about 1.75#s.

must be "meat envy". :S

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2018 10:42 PM (OK5xV)

254 Yeah, only Bubba was from Arkansas. The Hillbeast was from Shitcago, or actually one of the northern suburbs.

Illinois: Land of Alinsky.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:42 PM (Ju3ed)

255 Ruthless, didn't know that. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:43 PM (eMKNe)

256 South Carolina: Thank God for Mississippi

Posted by: Sandlapper Miklos at May 19, 2018 10:43 PM (zCyNd)

257
How's the Brave browser coming along?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 10:39 PM (NY0r1)

It was working fine for me on the other machine, until the machine cacked out. Don't think the browser was the cause.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 10:43 PM (dOgJt)

258 Arizona: Mentioned In A Popular Eagles Song.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:44 PM (ga0eq)

259 "Georgia: Nothing like Deliverance, we swear"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:44 PM (eMKNe)

260 Arkansas: "not just interstates"

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:44 PM (n13/j)

261 Squeal like a pig!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:45 PM (Ju3ed)

262 Ruthless, that was my second choice for Georgia ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:45 PM (eMKNe)

263 Off, sock.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 19, 2018 10:45 PM (Tnhbr)

264 Georgia: Mentioned In A Popular Ray Charles Song

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:45 PM (ga0eq)

265 I want to thank whoever mentioned us (Gab) last night.
We've received over 450 new followers last night because of that. Thank you.

Posted by: Dick at May 19, 2018 10:45 PM (SRarZ)

266 WWI as a bar fight:

Germany, Austria and Italy are standing together in the middle of a pub when Serbia bumps into Austria and spills Austria's pint. Austria demands Serbia buy it a whole new suit because of the new beer stains on its trouser leg. Germany expresses its support for Austria's point of view.

Britain recommends that everyone calm down a bit. Serbia points out that it can't afford a whole suit, but offers to pay for the cleaning of Austria's trousers. Russia and Serbia look at Austria. Austria asks Serbia who it's looking at.

Russia suggests that Austria should leave its little brother alone. Austria inquires as to whose army will assist Russia in doing so. Germany appeals to Britain that France has been looking at it, and that its sufficiently out of order that Britain not intervene.

Britain replies that France can look at who it wants to, that Britain is looking at Germany too, and what is Germany going to do about it? Germany tells Russia to stop looking at Austria, or Germany will render Russia incapable of such action anymore. Britain and France ask Germany whether it's looking at Belgium. Turkey and Germany go off into a corner and whisper. When they come back, Turkey makes a show of not looking at anyone.

Germany rolls up its sleeves, looks at France, and punches Belgium. France and Britain punch Germany. Austria punches Russia. Germany punches Britain and France with one hand and Russia with the other.

Russia throws a punch at Germany, but misses and nearly falls over. Japan calls over from the other side of the room that it's on Britain's side, but stays there.

Italy surprises everyone by punching Austria. Australia punches Turkey, and gets punched back.

There are no hard feelings because Britain made Australia do it. France gets thrown through a plate glass window, but gets back up and carries on fighting.

Russia gets thrown through another one, gets knocked out, suffers brain damage, and wakes up with a complete personality change.

Italy throws a punch at Austria and misses, but Austria falls over anyway. Italy raises both fists in the air and runs round the room chanting.

America waits till Germany is about to fall over from sustained punching from Britain and France, then walks over and smashes it with a barstool, then pretends it won the fight all by itself.

By now all the chairs are broken and the big mirror over the bar is shattered.

Britain, France and America agree that Germany threw the first punch, so the whole thing is Germany's fault. While Germany is still unconscious, they go through its pockets, steal its wallet, and buy drinks for all their friends...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (hyuyC)

267 MisHum

Thanks for the Ian Hunter. Always was one of my favorite musicians. But, after seeing him play the Pier in NYC one summer in my teens, he has always been close to m heart. A truly sublime show during a perfect summer.

As the recording you selected attests, he was, in many ways, better live than he was in the studio ~ and he was excellent in the studio.

You're never Alone with a Schizophrenic is one of the best albums ever.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (0/0WS)

268 Hadrian (if you're still here), do you find it hard to find motels that allow pets? Are there certain chains known for being more pet friendly?

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (RfzVr)

269 TL;DR

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (Ju3ed)

270 After watching the clip on the B-24 and all it took to pull off such an accomplishment, it makes me fully appreciate how much the gender studies graduates truly bring to the table...jack shit NOTHING!

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (yhf6w)

271 Ohio: Gateway To Southern Indiana

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (ga0eq)

272 N. and S. Carolina: We don't actually like James Taylor

Posted by: Sandlapper/Tarheel Miklos at May 19, 2018 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

273 Texas: Mentioned in every third country song. And Saginaw, Michigan for some reason.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:47 PM (n13/j)

274 "Indiana: 'One Day At A Time' took place here"

Michigan: "Please please please just stay out of Detroit"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:48 PM (eMKNe)

275 It's because Saginaw rhymes with, er, something something...

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:48 PM (Ju3ed)

276 WWI as a bar fight: ...
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (hyuyC)

Yup. That about sums it up.

Well done.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (T71PA)

277 "Massachusetts: No, we don't really believe Liz Warren is an indian, stop asking us"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (eMKNe)

278 Ha!
Leave it to MisHum to find a picture of a beret-topped otter for the L'otter gag!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (0jtPF)

279 Oregon: "Fuck This Place"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (h1jJh)

280 We don't actually like James Taylor
Blasphemy!

Posted by: John F'N Kerry at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (Tyii7)

281 Michigan: the only state* where people actually have strong opinions about Ohio.

* including Ohio

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (y87Qq)

282 Muldoon will come along and make a poem with Saginaw, rhymes with saggy squaw or something like that.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (Ju3ed)

283 It's because Saginaw rhymes with, er, something something...
Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:48 PM (Ju3ed)

It took us 3 days to hitchhike there.

Posted by: Simaon and Garfunkle at May 19, 2018 10:50 PM (T71PA)

284 Illinois: The Cardinal is our state bird, along with six other states.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:50 PM (n13/j)

285 The U.S. industrial ramp-up before and during WWII was nothing short of impossible, but they did it.

Thing was then, that the U.S.A. was still a very robust blend of agricultural and heavy industrial industries.

Those men and women knew ALL about Hard Work, and most everyone was possessed of skills held as common knowledge, be it shop, field or both.

So, what are our odds now, of responding rapidly to the demands of an impending war, the glow of which fires are visible just over the horizon.

They gonna hire that insurance kid, who doesn't know a lug wrench from a jack-handle? (one and the same in many cases!)

And yeah, that thankless twelve hour, back breaking, sweat filled day. They can learn that swiftly enough, I suppose.

But most of 'em are so very soft, so unused to the slightest difficulty in life.

I can predict only one thing, for sure. It *will* be interesting.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2018 10:51 PM (QzJWU)

286 The Cardinal! What about the Pope?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:51 PM (Ju3ed)

287 "Idaho: No, YOU da ho!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)

288 Washington: Here come the brides, after transitioning

Posted by: Miklos, boycotting Washington oysters too at May 19, 2018 10:51 PM (zCyNd)

289 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997888920527523848

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997889041453473798

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997889164413685761

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997889276640727040

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997889385931726848

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/997889488201441280

Posted by: kbdabear at May 19, 2018 10:52 PM (eh0Va)

290 Well, if it comes to war we'll just ramp up our industrial base -- in Mexico and China. Um, er, will that work?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:52 PM (Ju3ed)

291 Kentucky: "Yes we really love KFC, ha ha, we've never heard that joke before"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:52 PM (eMKNe)

292 rhymes with saggy squaw or something like that.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:49 PM (Ju3ed)

That's the one about Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: Miklos, uncorking a new box at May 19, 2018 10:52 PM (zCyNd)

293 North Dakota: "Holding The Line Against Canada Since 1889."
Posted by: Cicero


Actually... at the height of the Cold War, had N.D. seceded, they would have had the third-largest nuclear arsenal in the world (USA & USSR would have still been #1 & #2, but ND would have had more nukes than China and India and everyone in Europe. Probably "combined".)

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:53 PM (JGBbg)

294 Florida: America's Foreleg

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:53 PM (ga0eq)

295 An otter that is also a frog?

How does it surrender?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (EZebt)

296 South Carolina: "Hey it's not our fault Denny's chose to put their HQ here, we don't like them either"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (eMKNe)

297 266. Funny, nicely done

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (xFZUI)

298 Michigan: you're welcome for all the asparagus, you ungrateful pricks.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (y87Qq)

299 Maine: Sorry about Susan Collins.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (f3MDZ)

300 North Dakota: "Holding The Line Against Canada Since 1889."



Keeping us safe from the Tim Horton's Pooper.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (Tyii7)

301 Florida: North America's Flaccid Penis.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (Ju3ed)

302 Illinois: The Cardinal is our state bird, along with six other states.
Posted by: Quint


Even declaring six other states as your "state bird", you won't have enough tax revenue to survive, ya crazy commies.

The Minnesota state bird is the Common Loon. It's also our state politician.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (JGBbg)

303 hogmartin, LOL.

"Michigan: putting the rust in the rust belt"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (eMKNe)

304 Dang it teej and NaCly. I booked my annual Kansas trip at the wrong time. I'll be in Manhattan but not till the end of July. That's where I pick up my rental car. Would have liked to meet you. My final destination is Clay Center.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (RfzVr)

305 "Idaho: No, YOU da ho!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:51 PM (eMKNe)

Ho ho ho!

Posted by: Miklos, uncorking another new box at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (zCyNd)

306 Florida: America's Foreleg
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 10:53 PM (ga0eq)


Dong Of The South

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (y87Qq)

307 Ruthless, that's another great one.

"Florida: America's wang"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (eMKNe)

308 So sorry for your loss ibguy. Glad you said your are dealing w/ it well.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (yJ1e6)

309 Virginia: Land of the Dead White Males

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 10:55 PM (0jtPF)

310 Kansas: Like a washboard with nipples.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 10:56 PM (LNPd9)

311 Illinois is the state that the highest percentage of productive people have fled from.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 10:56 PM (kWrQ3)

312 sock off

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 19, 2018 10:56 PM (T71PA)

313 DC has a LOT more than ten thousand of those scum-suckers. I think I have read that about a third of the population are lawyers.
Posted by: Ruthless


when The Road becomes reality, DC shall be known as 'New America's Larder'

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 10:56 PM (6FqZa)

314 Michigan: you're welcome for all the asparagus, you ungrateful pricks.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (y87Qq)
lol

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 10:56 PM (n13/j)

315 Kansas: "Yes we like 'Carry On Wayward Son' and no most of the band isn't actually from here, stop asking us"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (eMKNe)

316 Pennsylvannia: Land of 10,000 ethnic stereotypes!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (LNPd9)

317 I once lived in Illinois, actually for more than twenty years. Then when nobody was looking, I escaped. Don't ask me about the five years I spent living in New Yawk State. OMG.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (Ju3ed)

318 Texas: Mentioned in every third country song. And Saginaw, Michigan for some reason.

Posted by: Quin


Ah hmm

Posted by: Tennessee at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (NY0r1)

319 Hadrian (if you're still here), do you find it hard to find motels that allow pets? Are there certain chains known for being more pet friendly?
Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 10:46 PM (RfzVr)

----------------

I can weigh in on this. We had to do a bit of traveling with a cat and a dog last summer. We stayed at La Quinta Inns while we were on the road. Very pet friendly. We used BringFido.com to book the rooms.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (+F0Wk)

320 Florida: "Hey remember when Miami Vice was cool? Good times..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:58 PM (eMKNe)

321 Tennessee: "You're welcome for Dolly Parton, America"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:58 PM (eMKNe)

322 Miami Vice > CSI Miami

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:58 PM (Ju3ed)

323 North Carolina: Welcome Yankees

(Actually, those are counterfeits from South Carolina)

Posted by: Miklos, uncorking another new box at May 19, 2018 10:58 PM (zCyNd)

324 Keeping us safe from the Tim Horton's Pooper.


Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (Tyii7)

Heh. That was in Langley, B.C. About a 20 minute drive from the border.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 10:59 PM (dOgJt)

325 West Virginia: "Not everybody's dead from black lung yet"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:59 PM (eMKNe)

326 Montana: Some rat in the swamp was born here, we never thanked him for leaving.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 19, 2018 11:00 PM (LOq4H)

327 South Carolina: "Hey it's not our fault Denny's chose to put their HQ here, we don't like them either"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:54 PM (eMKNe)

Don't laugh-SC state tax refunds are paid in Denny's coupons.

Posted by: Miklos, Carolina Meridionalis at May 19, 2018 11:00 PM (zCyNd)

328 South Carolina: Too small to be an independent nation, too large for an insane asylum.


Oh wait, someone already thought that one up.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:00 PM (6FqZa)

329 Alaska: Don't Call Us Eskimos

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 11:00 PM (ga0eq)

330 Miklos, bet that's popular with the natives :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:00 PM (eMKNe)

331 You're just a bunch of Eskimos. There, I said it.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:01 PM (Ju3ed)

332 Come for the lava, stay for the communism.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judges at May 19, 2018 11:01 PM (Tyii7)

333 Alaska: "Land of 1,000 Sarah Palin jokes"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)

334 I once lived in Illinois, actually for more than twenty years. Then when nobody was looking, I escaped.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 10:57 PM (Ju3ed)


Don't worry, friend. You're safe here. We won't let them take you back.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (y87Qq)

335 Alaska: "We're still really mostly Russia and Canada but don't tell DC that"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (eMKNe)

336 cfo mom

I'd be delighted to meet you. There is a pretty good Mexican Restaurant in Clay Center. And there are other possibilities.

We will be here in Manhattan in July.

my e-mail, in rot-13, is: AnPyl_qbt@xfoebnqonaq.arg

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (hyuyC)

337 Hawaii: "yes Moana was a neat movie, no it isn't like that"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (2K6fY)

338 Wisconsin: Everybody Likes Cheese, Right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (ga0eq)

339 >>>We used BringFido.com to book the rooms.

Thank you! Never heard of that site. Bookmarked now.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

340 Hawaii: "Stop asking us about that stupid multi-part Brady Bunch episode with the idol"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:03 PM (eMKNe)

341 Wowee in Maui, Wahoo in Oahu.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:04 PM (Ju3ed)

342 my e-mail, in rot-13, is: AnPyl_qbt@xfoebnqonaq.arg

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 11:02 PM (hyuyC)

Aha! They have modified the rotors on the Enigma machine!

Posted by: Bletchley Park at May 19, 2018 11:04 PM (zCyNd)

343 Hawaii: "Stop asking us about that stupid multi-part Brady Bunch episode with the idol"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:03 PM (eMKNe)

Jan was hot.

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 11:04 PM (lQn8Y)

344 tbodie, yup but everyone was so fixated on Marcia Marcia Marcia :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:05 PM (eMKNe)

345 So, what are our odds now, of responding rapidly to the demands of an impending war, the glow of which fires are visible just over the horizon.
------------------------------

Jim, you have a valid perspective but the difference in our production during our recent eight year ombanation and the last year and a half illustrates that the core of America if full of big brass can do.


Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 11:05 PM (NY0r1)

346 So this is where Greg wiped out! click click.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:05 PM (n13/j)

347 Hey Miley!! *does Forest Gump wave

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (dUJdY)

Belated HEY to you, Jewells!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 11:06 PM (iTpm7)

348 Wisconsin: Our economy is based entirely around cheese, Red Letter Media, and Badgers merch.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 11:06 PM (f3MDZ)

349 Greg was okay, but that Mr. Brady was a fag.

Bwa hah hah hah.

Bwa hah hah hah hah hah!

Posted by: Vincent Price at May 19, 2018 11:07 PM (ga0eq)

350 >>>We used BringFido.com to book the rooms.

Thank you! Never heard of that site. Bookmarked now.
Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:03 PM (RfzVr)

Even using the site, though, make sure to check the pet policy of the hotel. Some have restrictions on the number of pets. In our case, some wouldn't allow cats, so we had to be careful of that.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 11:07 PM (+F0Wk)

351 Vincent, you were the best thing about that episode. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:08 PM (eMKNe)

352 If you need to take a cat into a motel, disguise it as a rabbit like the picture up top. Gotta work every time. Who could ban a cute rabbit?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:09 PM (Ju3ed)

353 Hawaii: "Everything's burning"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:09 PM (eMKNe)

354 Someone on the radio said "All of the smart people left Illinois in the last three years."

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:10 PM (kWrQ3)

355
To answer a question asked earlier, Her Majesty usually uses La Quinta when traveling with dogs.

Up at 5:00 to take care of the critters, shower, dress and an hour's drive to church to say the Rosary at 7:00 before 7:30 Mass. Good night, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 11:10 PM (+o4FL)

356 So did all the smart people from IL go to CO to get high?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:10 PM (Ju3ed)

357 NaCly -

Oh yes. I am staying at the hotel attached to that restaurant. Of course I would have to since there are no other hotels in town. I saved your info for when the time gets closer. (I have zero idea rot-13 means and the rest of it looks strange, but I saved it.) I am cfomahm (note spelling) at the hotmail thingie. Would be fun if we could have lunch or dinner one day.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:10 PM (RfzVr)

358 Minnesota: "No not all of us talk like Frances McDormand in Fargo, shut up"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (eMKNe)

359 Prayer request please:
My nephew graduated with a master's in business administration today and he and his wife threw a party. It was a lot of fun, but I heard something there that deeply frightens me. My niece who will be turning 26 in just a few days, had severe abdominal pain and a lot of bleeding from the rectum a few days ago. Her parents took her to the ER and were told it was food poisoning, which was ridiculous since she had eaten nothing but a PBJ sandwich and some ice cream. She has an appointment with a GI doc on Tuesday. Colon cancer runs in her mother's side of the family - a few have died young of it. I'm scared. Bleeding from the rectum is never a good sign. She got a good job last August and is looking to buy a condo. She's 26, for God's sake.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (H80UQ)

360 Illinois: A great place to be from

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (2WfB0)

361 NyCla, that was awesome.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (a3OL0)

362 New York: "Millions of people, billions of rats, trillions of cockroaches"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:12 PM (eMKNe)

363 Donna, will do

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:12 PM (eMKNe)

364 New York: "We hated Trump before it was cool"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:13 PM (eMKNe)

365 Ibguy: I just read about your sister's passing in the sidebar.

My deepest sympathies to you and the rest of the family and the friends who rallied around her this past year and a half. There is very little to say that is good about her cancer and her passing. But with a bit of luck, Joyce's doctors have learned a little more about her specific cancer that will help somebody else down the road, and the whole miserable experience will not have been in vain. I know it doesn't do one thing for Joyce herself, but from your descriptions of her, I suspect it would please her to know that she contributed to another person's chances of just possibly surviving.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 19, 2018 11:13 PM (twkXM)

366 If we could teach the rats to eat the cockroaches, then get a kazillion cats, it would be all good in New York. Except for the people.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:13 PM (Ju3ed)

367 Nevada: "Try To Leave With A Balance On Your Account, And We'll Kill You"

Posted by: Vincent Price at May 19, 2018 11:14 PM (ga0eq)

368 Donna, it could Crohns disease. Our older daughter had the same symptoms. It sucks but it's not cancer. She's the same age, 26.

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2018 11:14 PM (2WfB0)

369 Ruthless, LOL.

New York: "Spawning too many Cuomos since 1953"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:14 PM (eMKNe)

370 ...trillions of cockroaches"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:12 PM (eMKNe)

I had no idea the NY government was so big!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 11:14 PM (+F0Wk)

371 California: "Bienvenidos en Mexico"

Posted by: Miklos de Molnar at May 19, 2018 11:15 PM (zCyNd)

372 Nevada: "Come for the casinos, stay because you gambled away your car"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:15 PM (eMKNe)

373 Prayers up for your niece, Donna.

Posted by: Toni at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (SEY8G)

374 Miklos, most accurate slogan yet

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (eMKNe)

375 If we could teach the rats to eat the cockroaches, then get a kazillion cats, it would be all good in New York. Except for the people.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:13 PM (Ju3ed)

And what about us?

Posted by: Alligators in the New York sewers at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (zCyNd)

376 I have zero idea what rot-13 means

Short for "rotate-13". Move every letter 13 spaces ahead in the alphabet. It was the default "encoding" for spoilers and such back in the USENET days, before html/php/etc.

Since 13x2=26, rot-13'ing a rot-13'ed message decodes it. (A becomes N, and N becomes A again).

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (JGBbg)

377

1. Riot in Texas?
2. Send in one Ranger.
3. What riot?

Am seldom up this late, but kinda nice to get in on the ONT while it's still live.

Posted by: empire1 at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (6qGGX)

378 Lots of people drive into Vegas in a fifty thousand dollar Cadillac, and leave in a five hundred thousand dollar Greyhound.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (Ju3ed)

379 Illinois homeowners are in for some interesting times.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:17 PM (kWrQ3)

380 Aha, feed the people to the alligators in the storm sewers and New York will be just like Oklahoma, OK!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:17 PM (Ju3ed)

381 It also may help determine whether one of these bears is responsible for as many as 37 murders in Northern California during the late 1960s and early 1970s.
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Murders? In northern California?

Someone is jerking the reporter around.

That aside, has there been any mention of bicyclist killed by the mountain lion? https://preview.tinyurl.com/yceb6qjb

To a mountain lion, I expect a bicyclist looks a lot like a deer. At any rate, I don't blame the cat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:18 PM (cp1if)

382 Nevada: "Arrive in a fifty thousand dollar Cadillac, leave in a million-dollar bus."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:18 PM (dOgJt)

383
(I have zero idea rot-13 means and the rest of it looks strange, but I saved it.) I am cfomahm (note spelling) at the hotmail thingie. Would be fun if we could have lunch or dinner one day.
Posted by: cfo mom


Do a search on rot-13 and enter the info into the on line translator.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:18 PM (IqV8l)

384 Ruthless is on fire tonight

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:18 PM (eMKNe)

385 And what about us?
Posted by: Alligators in the New York sewers at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM

Carry on scaring tourists.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 11:18 PM (2NqXo)

386 Virginia is for lovers ... of bureaucrats, lobbyists, and mass 3rd world immigration

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (0jtPF)

387 Wisconsin: Hillary Clinton Never Slept Here

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (6FqZa)

388 Is there an echo in here? And I guess the cost of busses has gone up.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (Ju3ed)

389 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (H80UQ)

I do hope you're at least a little relieved that it's being checked out right away. It's an awful thing to worry about, but there are lots of things it could be, and the absolute best thing to have on your side is early detection.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (y87Qq)

390 New York: "That alligator in your hotel toilet is just our way of saying 'welcome!'"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (eMKNe)

391
Illinois homeowners are in for some interesting times.
Posted by: Cm9000


Illinois needs to legalize pot. It will fix everything.
And it's right next door.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (IqV8l)

392 prayer - National Anthem (with Flags and jets) - test pattern

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (NY0r1)

393 I may not be on fire, but I am having fun. I always wanted to be a class clown but I didn't have the nose for it. Here I can live my dream. Thanks Horde.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:20 PM (Ju3ed)

394 Best way to leave Vegas with a million bucks? Go there with two million.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 11:20 PM (+F0Wk)

395 I went to Colorado to not get high. I must be a schmuck.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:21 PM (6FqZa)

396
Is there an echo in here? And I guess the cost of busses has gone up.


Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (Ju3ed)

heh. You posted while I was composing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:21 PM (dOgJt)

397 375 If we could teach the rats to eat the cockroaches, then get a kazillion cats, it would be all good in New York. Except for the people.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:13 PM (Ju3ed)

We gonna need a lot more fried rice!

Posted by: Chinese restaurants at May 19, 2018 11:21 PM (jp0Bv)

398 Have a great night, everyone.

And tomorrow; may you be bragging about your night, not complaining.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 11:21 PM (hyuyC)

399 Short for "rotate-13". Move every letter 13 spaces
ahead in the alphabet. It was the default "encoding" for spoilers and
such back in the USENET days, before html/php/etc.



Since 13x2=26, rot-13'ing a rot-13'ed message decodes it. (A becomes N, and N becomes A again).



Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 11:16 PM (JGBbg)

Well thank you very much. I now understand what I should do to decode, altho I doubt my capacity to do so correctly. I will try tomorrow. If I get the same results twice I will figure I MAY have it right.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:22 PM (RfzVr)

400 398 Have a great night, everyone.

--------

Don't tell me what to do, fascist.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 11:23 PM (ga0eq)

401 Jan was hot.
Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 11:04 PM

Her fever spiked to 106 degrees after I bit her, so yeah, she was totally hot. Dunno why I passed up Bobby and sung my fangs into her instead. Just seemed right somehow.

Posted by: Tarantula that spared Bobby at May 19, 2018 11:23 PM (2NqXo)

402 ...huge mounds of doughnuts and 900 pounds of bacon to attract black bears...

What could possibly go wrong??~~??!!!

Posted by: mindful webworker - snug inside with the doors locked at May 19, 2018 11:24 PM (ECLlc)

403 It's cool, I got Bobby -- The Rattlesnake

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:24 PM (Ju3ed)

404 GULP! Ok I am going to say it! Henry Ford also built manufacturing plants in England that produced trucks for the Third Reich . Henry took all that Adolph cash. I guess he also took a page from the House of Rothschild playbook and played both sided of a war to make money.... Just sayin.. Me Mum was born in Hull (sometimes referred to as hell by the locals) on the east coast of the isle on the English channel.. That has sparked my interest in WWII since I was not a lad but after I was over my 60's hippie days and engaged watching World at War on (Bill Moyers archetech of El BJ's Great Society) PBS..

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:24 PM (ICWiF)

405 Have a great night, everyone.



And tomorrow; may you be bragging about your night, not complaining.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 11:21 PM (hyuyC)

Good night, Salty!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 11:25 PM (iTpm7)

406 >>>Do a search on rot-13 and enter the info into the on line translator.

Very cool Bertram. Thanks. (Thinking I'm not smart enough or military enough to be on this smart military blog.)

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:25 PM (RfzVr)

407 359----Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (H80UQ)
--------------------
OMG.
That is so scary.
Given her age, it is probably something relatively benign.
I will pray that it is so.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 11:25 PM (0jtPF)

408 We have a B-24 here this week (among others). I think I'm going to take a ride. $450, which is about the same as I ever get for a Southwest round-trip, but no TSA!

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2018 11:26 PM (QxXRY)

409
Well thank you very much. I now understand what I should do to decode, altho I doubt my capacity to do so correctly. I will try tomorrow. If I get the same results twice I will figure I MAY have it right.
Posted by: cfo mom


http://www.rot13encoder.com/index.html

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:26 PM (IqV8l)

410 I remember seeing a slogan for California: Our women have more plastic in them than our cars do.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:26 PM (H80UQ)

411 387 Wisconsin: Hillary Clinton Never Slept Here
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (6FqZa)
--------------------
Thread winner!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 11:27 PM (0jtPF)

412 TSA Motto: The Government Pays Us to Grope You

(and who pays the government? Hmm.)

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:27 PM (Ju3ed)

413 Minnesota: "No not all of us talk like Frances McDormand in Fargo, shut up"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:11 PM (eMKNe)
Ya? too bad, it is fun to say Ya.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:27 PM (n13/j)

414 I now understand what I should do to decode, altho I doubt my capacity to do so correctly.

There are scripts for it everywhere (rot13.com, for example), so you don't have to decode by hand. But you can if you want!

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 11:28 PM (JGBbg)

415 Thanks to everyone for your prayers. I hope it is benign. She's a sweet young woman.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:28 PM (H80UQ)

416 Florida: Bat-shit crazy is our baseline

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 11:28 PM (+F0Wk)

417 Ohio: "WKRP in Cincinnati took place here"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:28 PM (eMKNe)

418 Virginia: where all the non-Virginians go.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:29 PM (n13/j)

419 and quite a schnoz it is.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 11:29 PM (a3OL0)

420 Florida: "Making Californians looks sane since 1970"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:29 PM (eMKNe)

421 Will add you niece to my list Donna.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:29 PM (RfzVr)

422 Florida: "Come for our amusement parks, stay because one of Disney's alligators dragged you into a swamp"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:30 PM (eMKNe)

423 Minnesota: "No not all of us talk like Frances McDormand in Fargo, shut up"

Posted by: qdpsteve

Hate tah disagree with ya there, but if ya don't, yer probably not a native Minnesotan.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 11:30 PM (f3MDZ)

424 Hi Infidel! Good to see you.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:31 PM (Ju3ed)

425 Quint and Prince Ludwig, hmmm ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:31 PM (eMKNe)

426 I am surprised WVA has not been renamed Robert Byrd's State since damn near everything in WVA has been named after him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:31 PM (H80UQ)

427 Florida: the further south you go, the more northern it gets.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:32 PM (n13/j)

428 Are we supposed to be surprised that Titans of Industry "Do That."

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:33 PM (kWrQ3)

429 West Virginia: "Giving America the Byrd since the 1940s"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:33 PM (eMKNe)

430 Minnesota: You call it drain cleaner; we call it fish marinade

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 19, 2018 11:33 PM (+F0Wk)

431 Minnesota: "The Mary Tyler Moore Show took place here"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:34 PM (eMKNe)

432 You know mikeski, I am the kind of person who will decode it myself (twice) and then put it through the translator. Just to make sure the results jibe. Just because 1) I like a challenge and 2) I trust no one to not be pulling my leg.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 11:34 PM (RfzVr)

433 Cheers Ruthless.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 11:36 PM (a3OL0)

434 Wisconsin, Home of the Bronze Fonz

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2018 11:36 PM (2WfB0)

435 Florida: "Most of our residents are dead"

Illinois: "Most of our voters are dead"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:36 PM (eMKNe)

436 Hate tah disagree with ya there, but if ya don't, yer probably not a native Minnesotan.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable


Depends what part of MN you're from. If you were born in Burnsville, you probably speak with a Somali accent, for instance.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 11:36 PM (JGBbg)

437 Arizona-"It's a dry heat"

Posted by: Gila Bend sounds nice at May 19, 2018 11:37 PM (zCyNd)

438 I'm Somali, ya.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:37 PM (Ju3ed)

439 New Jersey: "Yes we know The Sopranos was a really cool show, we've seen it thanks"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:37 PM (eMKNe)

440 GULP! Ok I am going to say it! Henry Ford also built
manufacturing plants in England that produced trucks for the Third
Reich . Henry took all that Adolph cash. I guess he also took a page
from the House of Rothschild playbook and played both sided of a war to
make money.... Just sayin.. Me Mum was born in Hull (sometimes referred
to as hell by the locals) on the east coast of the isle on the English
channel.. That has sparked my interest in WWII since I was not a lad but
after I was over my 60's hippie days and engaged watching World at War
on (Bill Moyers archetech of El BJ's Great Society) PBS..

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:24 PM (ICWiF)

I don't think Ford's manufacturing plants in England supplied the Third Reich, certainly not after Sept. 3, 1939. But he plants in Germany, and also in Russia. The workhorse truck of the Wehrmacht was the Opel Blitz, and Opel was a GM partner. The trucks Ford made in Russia were based on the early '30's Ford AA truck, and were sadly out of date by the time the war began.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:37 PM (dOgJt)

441 Washington: "Hey, remember Pearl Jam? They were a thing."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 11:38 PM (f3MDZ)

442 Michigan-"Some parts are nice"

Posted by: Not all though at May 19, 2018 11:38 PM (zCyNd)

443 Michigan: "Warranty void if you drink the water"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:39 PM (eMKNe)

444 Vermont: The Green Mountain State, and home of Mary Clogsthedrain.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:39 PM (Ju3ed)

445 New Jersey- Where teachers live like royalty on their pensions.

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:40 PM (ICWiF)

446

Wander Indiana

https://tinyurl.com/y9gs5uhq

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:40 PM (IqV8l)

447 Wyoming: 'If you run out of gas, it sure sucks to be you'

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:40 PM (6FqZa)

448 I read about Larry Correira's "disinvitation" in the side bar. What a bunch of weak kneed ninnies that com committee is.

It sounds like the Gamer-gate harpies have simply moved their operations to a new venue.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 19, 2018 11:40 PM (twkXM)

449 Louisiana: "Land of hot sauce and killer mud"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:41 PM (eMKNe)

450 boulder, LOL.

Wyoming: "We'll find your bones next month"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:41 PM (eMKNe)

451 Wyoming: "Try not to make Dick Cheney shoot you in the face"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:42 PM (eMKNe)

452 California: "Get murdered by a criminal alien and your next visit is free"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:42 PM (eMKNe)

453 Hey Infidel, the Moab Brewery now has their own distillery with various kinds of brewed up vodka and gin. And I am pretty sure they do sell beer every day, since 1) they are a brewery, and 2) they are open every day.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (Ju3ed)

454 New Jersey- The Garden State famous for tomato's and bodies strewn off the turnpike

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (ICWiF)

455 North Dakota-" "

Not big talkers, are they?

Posted by: Miklos, no Chatty Cathy himself at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (zCyNd)

456 Maryland: I know we are south of Mason Dix, but that is only ironically. Check out our renaissance fair the mead is on point.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (n13/j)

457 Maryland: "Just stay out of Baltimore and you'll be fine"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:44 PM (eMKNe)

458 Colorado: "Get high without wearing out our mountains."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:44 PM (dOgJt)

459 New Jersey: Be A Part Of Us, Like Jimmy Hoffa

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 11:44 PM (ga0eq)

460 GEORGIA PEACH FODY FI!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:44 PM (Ju3ed)

461 Alabama, we are famous for our mud.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:44 PM (n13/j)

462 Louisiana-"Free nutria recipes"

Posted by: Miklos, they look like giant rats at May 19, 2018 11:45 PM (zCyNd)

463 Cicero, LOL.

New Jersey: "Jimmy Hoffa is our spirit animal"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:45 PM (eMKNe)

464
411 387 Wisconsin: Hillary Clinton Never Slept Here
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 11:19 PM (6FqZa)
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Thread winner!!!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 11:27 PM (0jtPF)








The White House - Hillary Clinton will never sleep here again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:46 PM (eXA4G)

465 New York: what, no one has mentioned us? WTF, we are the center of our universe!

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:46 PM (n13/j)

466 Alabama: "Yeah we know, Lynyrd Skynyrd was great"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (eMKNe)

467 I read about Larry Correira's "disinvitation" in the side bar. What a bunch of weak kneed ninnies that com committee is.

It sounds like the Gamer-gate harpies have simply moved their operations to a new venue.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats

SJWs are out there! They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (f3MDZ)

468
Okay, so the White House isn't a state....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (eXA4G)

469 454 New Jersey- The Garden State famous for tomato's and bodies strewn off the turnpike
Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (ICWiF)
Joisey - where the guy tied up in the trunk counts for HOV-2.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (brIR5)

470 New Jersey- The Garden State famous for tomato's and bodies strewn off the turnpike
Posted by: sOME mORON at May 19, 2018 11:43 PM (ICWiF)


Truth: I have seen more dead bodies along the side of the highway in Indiana* than in Jersey. New Jersey, to me, will always be the state where the license plates are the same color as the sky over the fire that's always burning for some reason on the far side of the Hudson River. What the hell are they even burning over there anyway?

* I-94 outside Gary. If you ever need a reasonably fresh human carcass, they've got stacks of 'em.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (y87Qq)

471 B-24 film very cool. Yeah, the industrial ramp-up for WWII was astonishing. I don't know if we could do it again today. Read General Groves' book on the Manhattan Project. That was a gargantuan challenge of management and engineering. I doubt we have managers of Groves' caliber today.

Posted by: gp at May 19, 2018 11:48 PM (mk9aG)

472 DC: A State of Confusion (and Collusion)

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:48 PM (Ju3ed)

473 hogmartin, thanks for the tips!

**The More You Know**

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:48 PM (eMKNe)

474 Cicero has a long mob history.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (kWrQ3)

475 DC: "The Deep State welcomes you"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (eMKNe)

476 NY-"New York, also a state"

Posted by: Miklos, who visited once at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (zCyNd)

477 Cicero has a long mob history.
Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (kWrQ3)


Oh not you too with the Radio Londres stuff...

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:50 PM (y87Qq)

478 50
Currently watching a documentary on Fred MacMurray on Amazon Prime. It's good, interesting.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (yJ1e6)



Considering all the movies he's done, I ought to be ashamed that the only one I can ever picture him in is The Caine Mutiny. On the other hand, The Caine Mutiny is a really really good movie, so... meh.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:53 PM (y87Qq)
MacMurray was great in "Double Indemnity." Before I saw that movie, I knew him only as the dad in "My Three Sons" so it was interesting to see him play a much less wholesome character.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:50 PM (H80UQ)

479 New York: The Umpire State. How about them Yankees?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:50 PM (Ju3ed)

480
Cicero has a long mob history.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (kWrQ3)

Porky was a wise guy, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:50 PM (dOgJt)

481 DC: where a 5 is a 9.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (n13/j)

482 474
Cicero has a long mob history.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 19, 2018 11:49 PM (kWrQ3)

Isn't that where Capone was from?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (H80UQ)

483 I want to thank whoever mentioned us (Gab) last night.
We've received over 450 new followers last night because of that. Thank you.
Posted by: Dick at May 19, 2018 10:45

Can you give me directions to this GAB thing?

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (yJ1e6)

484 Just watched the video that's sweeping the nation, This is America.
Even by rap standards the song is ludicrous and lacks any artistic merit.
What is it about modern rap that they just repeat the same two or three lines FOR AN ENTIRE FUCKING SONG!!!??

Posted by: Kreplach at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (UfMVm)

485

Speaking of Ford aero planes, I've been up flying in the Tin Goose, a Tri-Motor. Still have the pin.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 11:52 PM (GdWl+)

486 Vermont-"Subaru"

Posted by: Miklos, hi Mary! at May 19, 2018 11:52 PM (zCyNd)

487 Rhode Island: Not An Actual Island, So Sue Us

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2018 11:52 PM (ga0eq)

488 Almost Haiti, West Virginia

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:52 PM (H80UQ)

489 WV > H8i

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:53 PM (Ju3ed)

490 Puerto Rico-"Send money"

Posted by: Miklos, en Ingles at May 19, 2018 11:53 PM (zCyNd)

491 RICO Puerto Rico

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:54 PM (Ju3ed)

492 DC: where a 5 is a 9.
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (n13/j)

You talking math, accounting, or chicks?

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (lQn8Y)

493
Just watched the video that's sweeping the nation, This is America.
Even by rap standards the song is ludicrous and lacks any artistic merit.
What is it about modern rap that they just repeat the same two or three lines FOR AN ENTIRE FUCKING SONG!!!??


Posted by: Kreplach at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (UfMVm)

There's a limited number of memory registers available for lyric storage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (dOgJt)

494 Puerto Rico has all the advantages of a state, without the responsibilities. Sweet deal, for them. Sucks to be us.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (Ju3ed)

495 DC: where a 5 is a 9.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:51 PM (n13/j)



You talking math, accounting, or chicks?

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (lQn8Y)
yes

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (n13/j)

496 West Virginia: "Giving America the Byrd since the 1940s"
Posted by: qdpsteve
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Bonus - KKK!

To their credit, they have a town named Nitro, which I always thought was cool. And, country roads, I hear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:56 PM (5OO3x)

497 Ruthless, think I can make it between Memorial Day and Independence day. Need to start packing, moving furniture and painting next weekend.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 11:56 PM (a3OL0)

498 Mike, yup

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 11:56 PM (eMKNe)

499 Infidel, cool!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 19, 2018 11:57 PM (Ju3ed)

500 Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:55 PM (n13/j)

Thanks for clearing that up!

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 11:57 PM (lQn8Y)

501 perhaps I should have said "wiseguy" rather than guy.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 11:57 PM (brIR5)

502 MacMurray was great in "Double Indemnity."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 11:50 PM (H80UQ)


You're about the sixth person in this here thread to recommend it, it's on the list and I even put a SECOND line under it just now.

ARE YOU PEOPLE HAPPY NOW

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:57 PM (y87Qq)

503 And, country roads, I hear.

Almost heaven!

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 11:58 PM (brIR5)

504 New York. The only city so stupid that they named it twice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:58 PM (5OO3x)

505 Maine: also a state.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 11:58 PM (n13/j)

506

Alabama: All the jokes about us are true.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 12:01 AM (GdWl+)

507 ARE YOU PEOPLE HAPPY NOW

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:57 PM (y87Qq)

Read the DVD package carefully. You don't want to get stuck with Gerbil Indemnity, starring Richard Gere.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:01 AM (dOgJt)

508 464---The White House - Hillary Clinton will never sleep here again.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:46 PM (eXA4G)
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Yeah, not a state, but still.....It never gets old!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 12:02 AM (0jtPF)

509 Nebraska -- Where mediocrity is king.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 20, 2018 12:02 AM (twkXM)

510 WE PEOPLE ARE NEVER HAPPY!

Well, some days are better than others....

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:03 AM (Ju3ed)

511 ALABAMA: Swear To God, Next Person Bringing Up Roy Moore Gets A Fat Lip

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 12:03 AM (lLeln)

512 Truth: I have seen more dead bodies along the side of the highway in Indiana* than in Jersey. New Jersey, to me, will always be the state where the license plates are the same color as the sky over the fire that's always burning for some reason on the far side of the Hudson River. What the hell are they even burning over there anyway?

* I-94 outside Gary. If you ever need a reasonably fresh human carcass, they've got stacks of 'em.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:47 PM (y87Qq)

Truth be told since Rudy Giuliani wiped out the Italian mob deez jamokes over heh are bunch of amatures. We used to take a drive to the Jersey Pines IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 20, 2018 12:03 AM (ICWiF)

513 Say, whatever happened to Roy Moore. *whack* Ow!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:04 AM (Ju3ed)

514 Read the DVD package carefully. You don't want to get stuck with Gerbil Indemnity, starring Richard Gere.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:01 AM (dOgJt)


I can't believe Brian Dennehy didn't pick up a supporting actor nomination for his role as the gerbil. Dude got robbed.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 12:04 AM (y87Qq)

515 Hello, Horde! Buzzing the tower...

Hard day of hashing; dead-knackered. Only hope of resurrection is mindless TV and a glass of wine.

Ciao!

Posted by: LadyTheo, Ann Landers is my pen name at May 20, 2018 12:05 AM (X+6iw)

516 New Jersey: "We're really, really sorry about Chris Christie"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:05 AM (eMKNe)

517 South Carolina: Thank God for Mississippi

Posted by: Sandlapper Miklos


Actually, that's the motto of several of the southern states. However --

Mississippi -- Thank God for Louisiana and their Dem Gubner John Bel Edwards; We Lookin' Smart Yo!

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 12:05 AM (0ogQG)

518 “If I had a brother in jail and one in Georgia, I'd try to bust the one out of Georgia first.”
― Charles Frazier, Cold Mountain

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 12:07 AM (w1zJX)

519 I'm off.
Night all.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 20, 2018 12:07 AM (f3MDZ)

520 Nebraska: "We hate Bruce Springsteen"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:07 AM (eMKNe)

521 Hard day of hashing; dead-knackered. Only hope of resurrection is mindless TV and a glass of wine.

Ciao!

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BOO-YAH!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS at May 20, 2018 12:07 AM (ga0eq)

522 Kansas - Corn something, Toto something.

Posted by: Quint at May 20, 2018 12:08 AM (n13/j)

523 Georgia-"here by grace of Delta"

Posted by: Miklos, near I-20 at May 20, 2018 12:08 AM (zCyNd)

524 Was it already mentioned they also wrote "Shoot" instead of "Shot"?

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 20, 2018 12:09 AM (w45mR)

525 Kansas: "Evan flatter than your date to prom"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:09 AM (eMKNe)

526 evan? even

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:09 AM (eMKNe)

527 South Dakota: I Guess They Had To Carve Those Presidents Somewhere

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 12:10 AM (6FqZa)

528 524 Was it already mentioned they also wrote "Shoot" instead of "Shot"?
Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 20, 2018 12:09 AM (w45mR)

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Couricked

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 12:10 AM (ga0eq)

529 Kansas - Corn something, Toto something.
Posted by: Quint
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Elephants eye.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 12:10 AM (w1zJX)

530 While I was having fun here I got a text from ATT telling me I had gone over my data plan and was being charged $15 for another 1GB (using my iPhone hotspot). I saw it was getting close and ordered a wifi booster, but it won't come until Monday. Drat. I have wifi, but am located in a kind of dead spot that doesn't work well. Hope this gadget will let me stop using the hotspot.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:11 AM (Ju3ed)

531 Kansas-"What's the matter with us?"

Posted by: Miklos, near I-26 at May 20, 2018 12:11 AM (zCyNd)

532 Capone made Cicero a byword for organised crime. It wasn't where he got his he start, just a place he made an early mark.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 12:11 AM (kWrQ3)

533 Kansas: "Yeah this is where the house fell on Hillary, ha ha, we've never heard that joke before"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:11 AM (eMKNe)

534 I want to thank whoever mentioned us (Gab) last night.
We've received over 450 new followers last night because of that. Thank you.
Posted by: Dick at May 19, 2018 10:45


Mother of Lotters, that is a lot of people.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 20, 2018 12:12 AM (w45mR)

535 Kansas: "Bob Dole is from here, Bob Dole!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:12 AM (eMKNe)

536 Kansas - Corn something, Toto something.

Posted by: Quint

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Elephants eye.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 12:10 AM (w1zJX
hey, we don't really have a lot to pass around.

Posted by: Oklahoma at May 20, 2018 12:12 AM (n13/j)

537 Kansas - Corn something, Toto something.
Posted by: Quint
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Elephants eye.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Rains down in Africa ?

Posted by: Adriane the Carbohydrate Critic ... at May 20, 2018 12:12 AM (AoK0a)

538 Kansas: "Carry On Wayward Tourists"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:13 AM (eMKNe)

539 Matt Damon! Hey, he probably isn't from Kansas. Sorry.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:13 AM (Ju3ed)

540 359 Donna,

Bright red blood would be atypical of colon cancer. More likely an acute injury of some kind. Ischemic, possibly.

When I run really hard, I often get cramping and bright red blood. GI says it is transient ischemia brought on when my body shunts blood from my bowel to my limbs to provide oxygen for the intensity of my workload.

Colon cancer usually involves stool that resembles coffee grounds-old blood that has accumulated up in the colon and gets passed. NOT something to ignore.

Prayers up.

Posted by: LadyTheo, Ann Landers is my pen name at May 20, 2018 12:14 AM (X+6iw)

541 Kansas: "Bob Dole is from here, Bob Dole!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:12 AM (eMKNe)

The original thing that goes up!

Posted by: tbodie at May 20, 2018 12:14 AM (lQn8Y)

542 If you're up in Kansas for more than five hours, call a doctor.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:15 AM (Ju3ed)

543
In Oklahoma, not Arizona
What does it matter?

Posted by: Three Dog Night at May 20, 2018 12:16 AM (y3sT9)

544 Good night all, off to work tomorrow. Our program is "Corn and How it Changed Itself and Changed the World". I you live near N IL check it out, my email is in my sig. This presenter is a pro, should be good.

If you are a Moron and show up introduce yourself to Terry.

Posted by: Farmer at May 20, 2018 12:16 AM (yJ1e6)

545 Green Day > Pearl Jam

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (rnAwa)

546 In Oklahoma, not Arizona
What does it matter?
Posted by: Three Dog Night at May 20, 2018 12:16 AM (y3sT9)

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Ever been to Spain?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (ga0eq)

547 Indiana: Full of Kentuckians who couldn't make it to Michigan.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (X+6iw)

548 Washington state: we don't know why we are named for George Washington either.

Posted by: Quint at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (n13/j)

549 Iowa: "We got corn growin' out of our hoo-ha"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (eMKNe)

550 Porn? Oh, corn. Nevermind.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (Ju3ed)

551 Cicero, Never been to Spain, but I heard the rain falls mostly on the plain.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:18 AM (X+6iw)

552 tbodie and ruthless, and up and up and up :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:18 AM (eMKNe)

553 South Dakota-"America's Perfect Rectangle"

Posted by: Miklos, slowing to a stop at May 20, 2018 12:18 AM (zCyNd)

554 467 -- Prince Ludwig -- Actually, I ran across a incident where a SJW got knocked back HARD!!!

A gal released a fantasy novel a few years back. Came out in hardback, which is not usual for a new author. Got great reviews and everybody, including me, was happy. Interesting premise, pretty good execution. Second book comes out in hb the following year, and the author swings a mighty SJW bat at all of us "homophobes". You could have held a wienie roast over the Amazon reviews, the readers were so ticked off. Third book was scheduled for the next year, except it never happened. The publisher kept pushing the pub date back and back and back. After three years, the third book was finally released -- in trade paperback, not hardback. Big demotion for author. I read it and there was not a single hint of SJW.

Somebody somewhere took note of the author's audience's displeasure and stomped that little SJW flat as a pancake.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 20, 2018 12:18 AM (twkXM)

555 Most of Spain doesn't get very much rain. It was there that most of the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were filmed, so that gives you some idea of how it is.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:19 AM (Ju3ed)

556 @ Lady Theo.

Sounds like sliding down into a neck deep tub of nearly unbearably hot water for the next ten minutes or so, is in order.

Don't drink the wine first. You might slide under, and never comment here, again.

*throws in life preserver*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 20, 2018 12:19 AM (QzJWU)

557

Alabama: The toothbrush was developed here because teethbrush sounded funny.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 12:19 AM (GdWl+)

558 Alabama: "Hey, at least we're not Mississippi"
Mississippi: "Hey, at least we're not Alabama"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:20 AM (eMKNe)

559

'Night Prince Ludwig. Luv your drums.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 12:20 AM (GdWl+)

560 This is random:
Come to California to meet people you know from Chicago!

OK, that's not really a motto.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:20 AM (X+6iw)

561

One plane every 55 minutes.
I keep saying the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people.
And the examples keep on popping up.
Then and now, it still holds true. Regardless of our present difficulties, this pace will, in time, conquer our problems.
Because we're America.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 20, 2018 12:21 AM (S/hVx)

562 Well, I spent most of the afternoon, after mowing some patches of grass, refurbishing a Beaver. A Beaver table saw, made by Rockwell Canada Corp., lo these many years ago. The only parts of it that aren't cast iron are heavy pressed steel and cold rolled steel. I think it will accept a ten-inch blade.

I disassembled it, and ground the rust off the table with an angle grinder, followed up with the D/A sander ( and that item broke in mid-job, and needed a bearing replaced, which I found). I will have to make a crank or handwheel for the blade-raising worm, and a motor bracket. With both wings on the table, it's 4 feet wide, and weighs about 200 pounds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:21 AM (dOgJt)

563 South Dakota-"America's Perfect Rectangle"

? Nice rivers you got there.

Posted by: Colorado and Wyoming (which are close, but not perfect) at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (7ThJ3)

564 Alabama: "Hey, at least we're not Mississippi"
Mississippi: "Hey, at least we're not Alabama"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:20 AM (eMKNe)

*tries to be inconspicuous*

Posted by: Louisiana at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (zCyNd)

565 I knew it would turn to beavers eventually.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (Ju3ed)

566 Most of Spain doesn't get very much rain. It was
there that most of the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were filmed, so
that gives you some idea of how it is.


Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:19 AM (Ju3ed

Yeah but dust bowl doesn't rhyme with Spain. The whole country is not like that, but they definitely have some deserts. Those Old West movie sets are still around last I heard.

Posted by: Quint at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (n13/j)

567 Ruthless, it always does ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (eMKNe)

568 Hey y'all.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:23 AM (MKLBv)

569 Jim,

Sagacious advice. Off to do just that. Left ankle a bit hinky; calves very sore.

But gosh darn it, I had a really good day. I am so thankful I have found people here in the Bay and here at the HQ who help me feel whole and happy.

I hope G-d shelters you all safely tonight.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:23 AM (X+6iw)

570 The Inevitable Beaver, starring Brian Denehey as a horde of beavers.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:24 AM (Ju3ed)

571 I shipped a large transformer to a guy in Texas, and apologized in advance for the kinda marginal packing.

The guy called me when he received it, and said that he was, in fact, impressed with the crate that I had knocked together. "From the way you talked", he said, "I expected something that looked like it was made in Arkansas."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 12:24 AM (w1zJX)

572 Then and now, it still holds true. Regardless of our present difficulties, this pace will, in time, conquer our problems.
Because we're America.


Posted by: irongrampa at May 20, 2018 12:21 AM (S/hVx)

God bless you, irongrampa. I love your spirit.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 20, 2018 12:24 AM (iTpm7)

573 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:21 AM (dOgJt)

Is there much call for sawing beaver tables these days?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 12:25 AM (y87Qq)

574 I don't think Ford's manufacturing plants in England supplied the Third Reich, certainly not after Sept. 3, 1939. But he plants in Germany, and also in Russia. The workhorse truck of the Wehrmacht was the Opel Blitz, and Opel was a GM partner. The trucks Ford made in Russia were based on the early '30's Ford AA truck, and were sadly out of date by the time the war began.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 11:37 PM (dOgJt)


I stand corrected on the location of production but the dates are during war time..and by the time the Germans were armed for war Ford already made his cash so I stand in my statement of fact.with this caveat..
https://tinyurl.com/ycjkq46c

Posted by: sOME mORON at May 20, 2018 12:26 AM (ICWiF)

575 I often wonder just how valid certain people's grievances are. A particular example are the African-Americans. Then I realize it's all a bunch of bullshit.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 12:26 AM (kWrQ3)

576 Yeah but dust bowl doesn't rhyme with Spain. The whole country is not like that, but they definitely have some deserts. Those Old West movie sets are still around last I heard.
Posted by: Quint at May 20, 2018 12:22 AM (n13/j)


Also: the Tree of Woe. Along the southern coast of Spain.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (y87Qq)

577 Illinois is at the door. Wants to come in and dig around in the couch for change.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (RuIsu)

578 Do you saw a beaver with the grain, or across? I always wondered.

Actually, I once saw a beaver "sawing" down a tree. Neat. A Sawzall couldn't do it any better.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (Ju3ed)

579 Cicero, Never been to Spain, but I heard the rain falls mostly on the plain.
Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:18 AM (X+6iw)

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#FakeNews

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (ga0eq)

580 Night all. Got to get up before noon tomorrow.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (twkXM)

581 Posted by: sOME mORON at May 20, 2018 12:26 AM (ICWiF)

Shouldn't that be s'mORON?


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:28 AM (iTpm7)

582 Hey Miley.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:28 AM (MKLBv)

583 OMG, I have to open up at the campground tomorrow at o'dark eight ayem. Better crawl off to my hole. Night all.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:29 AM (Ju3ed)

584 Night all. Got to get up before noon tomorrow.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 20, 2018 12:27 AM (twkXM)


Aw nuts, so do I. On the other hand, I can't sleep past sunrise anyway, so I can stay up as late as I want! I just can't function the next day.

So basically what I'm saying is good night, Ms. Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 12:30 AM (y87Qq)

585 You lost the F, sweetheart. How you doing?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:30 AM (iTpm7)

586 I'm doing fine.

No need for the F anymore, heh.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:31 AM (MKLBv)

587 Glad to hear it! I'm in PA now, living with my brother and SiL, mostly retired at present.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:32 AM (iTpm7)

588 Oh, new email addy...

Lima-Juliet-Charlie-Oscar-Papa-Echo-Lima-Alpha-November-Delta-Eight-Three-Eight-Three at the gee male dot com.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:34 AM (MKLBv)

589 PA? Wow.

I'm culturally appropriating a redneck here in southern IL.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:36 AM (MKLBv)

590 Got it, joyful one! I have a hot phone date in a few minutes, so I've gotta run. Sooooo good to see you here again!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:37 AM (iTpm7)

591 I just got out of seeing "Avengers: Infinity Wars" and I'm pretty disturbed by the ending. Was going to go home and get to bed, but instead I headed to my parents place to watch some HGTV and try to calm my nerves.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 20, 2018 12:38 AM (GtG/j)

592 Have fun on your date!

TTYL.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:38 AM (MKLBv)

593 Indiana: Full of Kentuckians who couldn't make it to Michigan.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 12:17 AM (X+6iw)

They got lost. It's a straight shot up US-23. Shouldn't have even been in Indiana.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 12:40 AM (RfzVr)

594 590 Got it, joyful one! I have a hot phone date in a few minutes, so I've gotta run. Sooooo good to see you here again!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:37 AM (iTpm7)


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PRO TIP: At $1.25 a minute, don't let them put you on hold.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 12:42 AM (ga0eq)

595 @ AOP.

Sanding "flapper wheel" bits, GREATLY > grinder wheels, for dressing a cast iron saw table.

The ultimate "rescue" for such?

Get that machine to a proper machine shop, and have 'em surface mill the bed and extensions down about 0.01~0.02, to expose a vast expanse of virginal iron and steel.

The "flapper wheel" won't gouge the bed like a grinder wheel, and the machine shop solution, will result in a single, unified, utterly flat and square plane atop the bed.

That said, I now have to re-tap the belt tension locknut (female) hole in the motor mount casting, on mine. Gonna drill it, sleeve it, and re-tap it in the original thread.

Cause that's the right way to get 'er done.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 20, 2018 12:42 AM (QzJWU)

596 Heya Jim!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:43 AM (MKLBv)

597 ...Most of Spain doesn't get very much rain. It was
there that most of the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were filmed, so
that gives you some idea of how it is.


Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 12:19 AM




Grew up mostly in San Diego, CA. Annual rainfall, averages what, four, six inches a year?

Been in the Greater Houston area, since '99. Annual rainfall average, 'bout 48 inches a year. It's a very green, lush, humid environment.

Last year, Hurricane Harvey dumped 52 inches of rain here, in only three days time.

Sergio's movie here would be The Good, The Bad, and the Soggy.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 20, 2018 12:47 AM (QzJWU)

598 Heya Jim!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:43 AM (MKLBv)



email me your new email please, m'dear?

I've gotta eject now and hit the snoozer.

Zero sick hunnert alarm is a bawl buster, fer sher, dood.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 20, 2018 12:50 AM (QzJWU)

599 Is Mueller like Steiner for liberals? Their last chance to take Trump down.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 12:51 AM (kWrQ3)

600 This is a similar saw, except mine has the side wings on both sides. A nine-inch saw, it is.


http://lumberjocks.com/topics/52868

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:53 AM (dOgJt)

601 I'm culturally appropriating a redneck here in southern IL.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 12:36 AM (MKLBv)
Great minds think alike ;-)


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 12:54 AM (iTpm7)

602 Goodnight Jim.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 12:57 AM (WU8si)

603 Time for me too. Got a sick boat motor--the 5horse kicker--thanks ethanol, for fucking up ONE MORE piece of my equipment. This will cost me a carb, I'm sure.
Anyway, remember that we're Americans, so that head is held HIGH and PROUD.
Goes with being exceptional.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe and warm.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 20, 2018 12:57 AM (S/hVx)

604 Jim, I used a 36 grit resin-bonded "paper" disc on the angle grinder to remove the rust, not a grinding wheel. There are some slight scratches, and lots of tiny pits, but the overall surface is now smooth enough to work.

Apparently this was a contractor-grade saw, and made circa 1969.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 12:58 AM (dOgJt)

605 Goodnight IGP.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 12:59 AM (WU8si)

606 Goodnight all. Thanks for the fun, funny chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 01:00 AM (eMKNe)

607 139
Batman and The Green Hornet vs Harry Mudd.

Harcourt has a big mustache. Repeat: Harcourt has a big mustache.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 20, 2018 01:01 AM (2//jc)

608 SMH: if you has new e-mail addy, i would like to have it as well...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 01:05 AM (OK5xV)

609 Is Fahrenheit 451 a quasi incognito way of tweekin the establishment?

Came home and turned HBO on after the FAILitals current display of FUCKitUPitNESS.....oh well.....
More to come.....but the cinematography an production of 451....(AAA...Isn't spell check/correct FUCKIN GREAT after a few drinks...heh)......of Fahrenheit 451 is very, very Well done. Have to watch it less intoxicated to offer any logically cohesive opinion.

But fuckin A.....these tribal genes that are Hardwired in.....hmmmm...maybe, Humans?....heh.

Those genes ....are entertained with the Whole "Royal" wedding thing to an absurd degree.......(don't worry, eventually "they'll" mimic neurochemical synapses patterns of cognitive recognition shortly....just keep watching.).....that the whole pageantry is rather eye catching........

Anyways, As ALWAYS ALL THE BEST!!!!!! The Horde of Magnificence DESERVES IT....
Thanks for Being AWESOME Y'all...

Posted by: Hillbillyking at May 20, 2018 01:06 AM (y27jS)

610 Well, time for me to call it a night. Getting real sleepy. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 01:07 AM (dOgJt)

611 Just a question......how much do Royal Groundskeepers earn?.....
Cause that's some fuckin seriously precise mowing these blokes are about....

Posted by: Hillbillyking at May 20, 2018 01:10 AM (y27jS)

612 doesn't matter how much the Groundskeepers earn....

you have to live in Sharia England to earn it...

F that: i'd rather sharecrop Weasel Acres for Massa.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 01:15 AM (OK5xV)

613 Lima-Juliet-Charlie-Oscar-Papa-Echo-Lima-Alpha-November-Delta-Eight-Three-Eight-Three at the gee male dot com.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:16 AM (MKLBv)

614 1. i really think i'm posting comments that are mean, not witty, which i regret.

2. i think meghen markel's [sp?] wedding dress was markedly shapeless and unsexy to compensate for her not being a virgin.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:16 AM (Pg+x7)

615 ... the latter was just an observation - neither mean nor witty. thank goodness.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:19 AM (Pg+x7)

616 Iowa: Hog chute to the White House

Posted by: Downcast at May 20, 2018 01:21 AM (VWE5i)

617 Welcome to KY - the Jelly state!

Posted by: Gooshy at May 20, 2018 01:28 AM (ehTOw)

618

Ok, Hordelings, it's Bedtime for Bonzo here too.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:30 AM (GdWl+)

619 Heh.

The man who is sixth in line to be king of Great Britain is getting married today -- and America has lost its mind.

https://tinyurl.com/yckkknco

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:31 AM (MKLBv)

620 the story i heard was that the ford and g.m. factories in germany were appropriated for war production by the reich but still technically owned by ford and g.m. prior to bombing them, especially around frankfort, the govt went to the two companies to get permission to flatten them - g.m. said yes, ford said no. after the war, g.m. was compensated but ford wasn't.

that's the story i heard by people involved.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:32 AM (Pg+x7)

621 ... i.e. i knew someone who knew someone in g.m. who related that story.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:34 AM (Pg+x7)

622 ... p.s. they are all flattened.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:35 AM (Pg+x7)

623 ... i.e. all of frankfort was pretty much flattened.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:37 AM (Pg+x7)

624 624 611 Just a question......how much do Royal Groundskeepers earn?.....
Cause that's some fuckin seriously precise mowing these blokes are about....
Posted by: Hillbillyking at May 20, 2018 01:10 AM (y27jS)

The grounds keepers here in London are truly dedicated and accepting, tolerant individuals as they comply with our new laws requiring them to gnaw down plants in order to trim them, as deadly weapons such as hedge clippers, pruning shears, chainsaws, leaf blowers, gnomes, lawn mowers, weedwhackers and watering cans are illegal here in London.

They are paid a lot however and will soon be seeing salary cuts as we need more money to give to refugees as welfare.

Posted by: Sadiq Kahn, Mayor of Londonistan at May 20, 2018 01:39 AM (WU8si)

625 So, did I miss anything?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 01:40 AM (ga0eq)

626 So, did I miss anything?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


Why, were you shooting at anything?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 01:40 AM (lLeln)

627 I thought the appeal of the royal wedding was obvious. Every girl wants to be a princess. And since Meghan Merkel is in her late thirties, half the middle aged women on the country are looking longingly into their cat's eyes saying breathlessly, "There's still hope for me, Mr. Mittens!!"

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 20, 2018 01:41 AM (jp0Bv)

628
The man who is sixth in line to be king of Great Britain is getting married today -- and America has lost its mind.

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AND the head honcho of the Church of England. Don't forget that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 01:42 AM (ga0eq)

629 Hullo?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:48 AM (m45I2)

630 i think i scared everyone off.

sorry about that.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 01:50 AM (Pg+x7)

631 629 Hullo?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:48 AM (m45I2)

Zzzzzzzzzz- I'm awake! I wasn't sleeping!

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 01:51 AM (WU8si)

632 Can't say I ever wanted to be a princess as a little girl.

*shrugs*

But yeah, a lot of women still believe in fairy tales.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:51 AM (MKLBv)

633
i think i scared everyone off.



sorry about that.

Not quite everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 01:52 AM (IcT7t)

634 I also always wanted to be a little girl.

Posted by: Bruce Caitlyn Jenner at May 20, 2018 01:54 AM (6FqZa)

635 While much of the world's attention is on the fairy-tale story of the latest British royal wedding, out on the other side of the Earth, the Chinese have been up to creating problems, throwing out a new challenge to the status quo, sending in the bombers to the disputed Paracel Islands out on the South China Sea.

https://tinyurl.com/ybot2u3x

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:55 AM (MKLBv)

636 I've been more off than on here lately, and am almost afraid to ask, but what happened to Insomniac? Did he get banned? Or taking a self-imposed time-out? Or...?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:56 AM (m45I2)

637 Taking a self-imposed time-out last I heard.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:57 AM (MKLBv)

638 I've been more off than on here lately, and am almost afraid to ask, but what happened to Insomniac? Did he get banned? Or taking a self-imposed time-out? Or...?
Posted by: Muldoon


Seeing to family issues, among other things.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 01:57 AM (lLeln)

639 Anyone got an extra smoke?

Posted by: 2001 Space Fetus at May 20, 2018 01:58 AM (ga0eq)

640

Missed the movie thread this week. Typical. It was about Apocalypse Now. If TJM or any movie buffs are still up for discussion, I'm keen. It's a masterpiece of cinema and possibly the best war movie ever made. It's Kubrick great and actually edges out Full Metal Jacket and Lean's Lawrence of Arabia. Coppola's AN is, imho, the greatest extended, non stop work of art (with a capital "A") comitted to the screen. Every frame is stunning and only 2001 is it's equal. As for content, let me say that amongst vets that know what they're talking about, AN captured the ESSence of memories. No, it's not a faithful account of day to doings... but the the take away is AN captures the overall feeling and sense of what it was like there at that time. The bizarre, the danger, the madness and the surreal. The best description I heard was that AN, though over the top, represents what the dreams and (admittedly distorted) memories of of the experience. "You don't really remember the tedium and routine much at all. But the otherworldly stuff stays with you forever". That's what AN is, a dream and a nightmare of various things presented as a story on film.

As for Willard's final act... Kurtz wanted to go out on his feet as a soldier. Not die from a tropical disease. Willard gave him that.

Posted by: otho at May 20, 2018 02:00 AM (7xR2D)

641 Maybe next movie thread, I guess, a recap. Just sad I missed this one.

Posted by: otho at May 20, 2018 02:02 AM (7xR2D)

642 That's good.

I hope.



As far as the British wedding thing here's my $.02. It, like every other damn thing (I'm looking at you Preakness, NBA playoffs, Olympics, etc.) is such a contrived, ginned up, fakey fake, overhyped, bit of non-event that it holds no real interest. She's not a f***ing princess for crying out loud. Just another excuse for Johnny Weir to put on a woman's hat and mince about on-camera. (I don't know, can only imagine that he had a role). Effing bread and circuses.

Other than that it was very enjoyable.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:04 AM (m45I2)

643 632 Can't say I ever wanted to be a princess as a little girl.

*shrugs*

But yeah, a lot of women still believe in fairy tales.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:51 AM (MKLBv)

Well, I might have wanted to, but I was more into fishing, hunting, shooting handguns, using black powder, running with dogs, that sort of fun.

Princessing seemed a bit boring by comparison.

Mind you, I wear skirts daily and I cook, sew and knit, but those are just pastimes. I know fun when I see it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 20, 2018 02:05 AM (NXsWM)

644 Also, to be a princess, you'd have to be in a country with a monarch, and we fought a war to get away from all that. No parade of silly hats changes that fact one iota.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 20, 2018 02:07 AM (NXsWM)

645 These things suck. In no particular order:

1. Yard work

2. Chronic neuropathy pain

3. Horse racing coverage

4. Car commercials

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:08 AM (m45I2)

646 Anyone got an extra smoke?


*****


Shoves a $2.50 Nicaraguan cigar through the USB port.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:09 AM (m45I2)

647 Just kidding. I didn't watch any of the wedding coverage.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:11 AM (m45I2)

648 I was at a bluegrass festival.

Lots of good bands.

Even with the inclement weather. it was fun.

And no funny hats.

tcn, *fistbump*

Princessin' does seem a bit dull.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 02:14 AM (MKLBv)

649 645 These things suck. In no particular order:

1. Yard work

2. Chronic neuropathy pain

3. Horse racing coverage

4. Car commercials
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:08 AM (m45I2)

Then you must hate commercials where Race Horses doing Yard Work sell Cars while coping with Chronic Neuropathy Pain.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 02:15 AM (WU8si)

650 Perches surf?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 02:17 AM (MKLBv)

651 Then you must hate commercials where Race Horses doing Yard Work sell Cars while coping with Chronic Neuropathy Pain.

Posted by: Surfperch


*******


'Zactly!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:17 AM (m45I2)

652 Just dropped in on the gab group. 200 new members in 24 hours.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:18 AM (IcT7t)

653 650 Perches surf?
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 02:17 AM (MKLBv)

North of San Luis Obispo at least.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 02:19 AM (WU8si)

654 643 tcn:

"... hunting, shooting, using black powder, running with dogs, that sort of fun."

i think that's called a fox hunt. princesses used to do that, too, but i believe it's been banned. still, there's some shooting'.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 02:20 AM (Pg+x7)

655 Pain meds kicking in. I will leave you fine folks to it. Try not to trash the place.

Endeavour to persevere!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:21 AM (m45I2)

656 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 02:22 AM (MMrzc)

657 some english dames in short tight coats, jodhpurs, and high boots cut a striking figure.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 02:23 AM (Pg+x7)

658 *sniffs Nicaraguan cigar*


Anyone got a light?

Posted by: 2001 Space Fetus at May 20, 2018 02:26 AM (ga0eq)

659 I have never seen Vanishing Point. Its on TCM right now. I like it. That Dodge is a beauty!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 02:26 AM (pY+s4)

660 645 These things suck. In no particular order:

1. Yard work

2. Chronic neuropathy pain

3. Horse racing coverage

4. Car commercials
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:08 AM (m45I2)

1. It isn't yardwork if it's gardening.
2. Neuropathy is a bitch. Can you RFD it?
3. Why don't they ever interview the horse after the race? Seems like he did all the hard work.
4. Car commercials, at least used car commercials, used to entertaining. Now they take themselves much too seriously. And new car commercials are never about the cars. So, I suggest that, when they come on, go to the icebox for a cold one. Problem solved!

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 20, 2018 02:26 AM (NXsWM)

661 659 I have never seen Vanishing Point. Its on TCM right now. I like it. That Dodge is a beauty!

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The car? Just wait til they get to the naked chick on the motorcycle.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 02:28 AM (ga0eq)

662 The car? Just wait til they get to the naked chick on the motorcycle.
I never could figure out where that whistling was coming from when she was going down the road.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:30 AM (IcT7t)

663 4. Car commercials

20! years ago ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvTVk0doJJM

(For decorum's sake, we won't mention what shitty fat stupid crossovers will do sub-6-second 0-60 times today.)

Posted by: and even your ugly Hyundai is turbocharged at May 20, 2018 02:31 AM (OX9gJ)

664 Nicaraguans roll too tight!

Posted by: Cosmo Cramer at May 20, 2018 02:34 AM (rdl6o)

665 Just dropped in on the gab group. 200 new members in 24 hours.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:18 AM (IcT7t)
---
Is there a hostile horde takeover happening? Do I need to get on gab?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 02:34 AM (UiRxW)

666 My cousin's second husband was an extra in one of the scenes in Vanishing Point. Look for a blondish dude with a mullet and cutoff jean shorts as the guy roars through western Colorado.


My one brush with fame.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:35 AM (m45I2)

667 *closes book and takes a deep breath*

If this book didn't cost me $40, wasn't about the last surviving Doolittle Raider, and wasn't signed by the 102 year old man himself; I would probably think about chucking this book just because of one sentence.

What is this sentence? The author, Dennis R. Okerstrom when describing Richard 'Dick' Cole's hometown of Dayton, OH just has to slip in this - and it laid claim to one of the first accepted African American poets, Paul Lawrence Dunbar.

Who? And how does that have any bearing on a story rooted in aviation, Orville Wright, Jimmy Doolittle, World War II, and one Dick Cole?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 02:35 AM (MMrzc)

668 Okay. Now I'm leaving.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:36 AM (m45I2)

669 Is there a hostile horde takeover happening? Do I need to get on gab?
Doesn't seem to be hostile, since gab actually welcomes free speech.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:36 AM (IcT7t)

670 Nicaraguans roll too tight!
Posted by: Cosmo Cramer at May 20, 2018 02:34 AM (rdl6o)
---
I don't give a fuck about Nicaragua. I hate your politics, I hate your politics, I hate the way you smell! Oy Oy Oy!

Posted by: Screeching Weasel at May 20, 2018 02:39 AM (UiRxW)

671 661 659 I have never seen Vanishing Point. Its on TCM right now. I like it. That Dodge is a beauty!

-------

The car? Just wait til they get to the naked chick on the motorcycle.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)



Oh. Oh, she is nice. I think I like this movie. Have I mentioned she's nice?

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 02:40 AM (pY+s4)

672 Oh, and before I go-

282 Muldoon will come along and make a poem with Saginaw, rhymes with saggy squaw or something like that.


********


Saginaw
Mackinaw
Sam Packinpaw
Dragon claw
Wagon law
Flagon flaw

And what am I, a trained rhyming monkey for your amusement?


Okay. Now I'm leaving.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:41 AM (m45I2)

673 My cousin's second husband

This sound suspiciously like the start of a limerick.

Posted by: was in the local jazz band at May 20, 2018 02:41 AM (OX9gJ)

674 OK I assume I need to download gab, which I'll do forthwith. What then, is there a group I have to join, or follow someone or something?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 02:43 AM (UiRxW)

675 Now the author spends two entire pages on what was printed in the Dayton paper the day Dick Cole was born. One paragraph is all about racism, again Dunbar is mentioned. I am about to track this arse down to his ivory tower at the University of Missouri and pillory him for this cr@p.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 02:44 AM (MMrzc)

676 again Dunbar is mentioned


*******


Okay, I'm not leaving just yet.

Funny you mention Dunbar. Dunbar is my (sort of) boss's middle name. Ostentatious name, if you ask me.

5. Incompetent bosses


There's another thing that sucks.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:47 AM (m45I2)

677 OK, it's missing two syllables.

I'll get you next time, Muldoon.

Next time.

Posted by: Dr. Maw, Grammar Terrorist at May 20, 2018 02:47 AM (OX9gJ)

678 OK I assume I need to download gab, which I'll do forthwith. What then,
is there a group I have to join, or follow someone or something?

https://gab.ai/groups/ 00666130-79e9-42ed-af1f-e2d60f07c6ea
Once you remove the space, that link should take you directly to the AoSHQ group.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:48 AM (IcT7t)

679 Now we finally get to Cole's birth and describing his father. Lost railroad job due to accident that cost an eye. Author has to slip in this jab this was before workers' compensation...

Grrr...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 02:50 AM (MMrzc)

680 Sick, dog! Thanks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 02:50 AM (UiRxW)

681 My cousin's second husband was a man of some acclaim
A bit part in a movie is his biggest claim to fame
But my husband's second cousin was a man of ill repute
He died way to early, now I miss the big galoot!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:51 AM (m45I2)

682 Dunbar is my (sort of) boss's middle name. Ostentatious name, if you ask me.

5. Incompetent bosses


Dunbar was my 2nd boss. He was competent, but in every other respect an ozweepay.

He f'd off back to Eire two years after I signed on.


Posted by: it's pronounced "asswipe" at May 20, 2018 02:51 AM (OX9gJ)

683 Goodnight Horde.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DX42_3ZKv8c

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 02:54 AM (WU8si)

684
Dunbar was my 2nd boss. He was competent, but in every other respect an ozweepay.


*****


Heh.

Yeah, mine has a perfectly good first name, but he goes by the middle name for some inexplicable reason. ozweepay indeed.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 02:54 AM (m45I2)

685 Okay.

Now I'm leaving.

For real this time.

Endeavour to persevere.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 03:00 AM (m45I2)

686 Vanishing Point. I really liked it. That Dodge. The American Southwest. That smoking hot blonde on the bike, nekid. I really liked this flick. I can see why it's a cult classic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 03:01 AM (pY+s4)

687 I would assume a lotter is someone who arranges, designs, and sells lotteries. I don't know why he should be shoot, though.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:14 AM (sdi6R)

688 directly to the AoSHQ group.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 02:48 AM (IcT7t)
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Aw'ite. I'm in. But I have no Twitter experience so this is new to me. Expect plenty of stupid shit while I figure this out

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:22 AM (UiRxW)

689 I always wanted to be a Princess.......cruise liner Das Big BOOT.'eh.

New Hampshire somewhat better than the Old One.

Posted by: saf at May 20, 2018 03:22 AM (5IHGB)

690 Just checking in the middle of the night. So how do you do this GAB thing?

Posted by: Farmer at May 20, 2018 03:25 AM (yJ1e6)

691 Here's the link for the live lava cam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN4ai47iNOE

It's sort of like a natural version of the Yule Log video. Maybe they ought to give a soundtrack of hula music, in lieu of Christmas carols.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:34 AM (sdi6R)

692 Just checking in the middle of the night. So how do you do this GAB thing?
Posted by: Farmer at May 20, 2018 03:25 AM (yJ1e6)
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I just did this minutes ago, with no Twitter experience or any hung, so it's pretty simple.

Go to gab.ai.

Press the create account button

It'll ask for an email, so give it a throwaway/spam address if you've got one.

You can give any "full name" I think.

By some insane coincidence, my strange username had been claimed, so if that happens to you, you might have pick something besides "Farmer"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:44 AM (UiRxW)

693 Once you finish signing up and return the verification email back to gab, go to:

https://gab.ai/groups/ 00666130-79e9-42ed-af1f-e2d60f07c6ea
Once you remove the space, that link should take you directly to the AoSHQ group.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:48 AM (UiRxW)

694 That lava flow live feed is awesome.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 20, 2018 03:53 AM (8iiMU)

695 Luc Besson is getting #MeTooed. Just another sanctimonious lefty hypocrite.

Posted by: Bear phone at May 20, 2018 03:53 AM (iynDC)

696 Doctor to Hawaii: Open wide and say a'a....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 20, 2018 04:00 AM (8iiMU)

697 Can't say I ever wanted to be a princess as a little girl.



*shrugs*



But yeah, a lot of women still believe in fairy tales.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:51 AM (MKLBv)

Better a Duchess than a princess. But I do believe in fairy tales.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 04:13 AM (iTpm7)

698 I've been more off than on here lately, and am
almost afraid to ask, but what happened to Insomniac? Did he get banned?
Or taking a self-imposed time-out? Or...?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:56 AM (m45I2)

He's OK. You know.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - I have no marshmallows at May 20, 2018 04:16 AM (iTpm7)

699 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:17 AM (BvUjA)

700 I like it when the molten lava splashes on the dark solidified lava in the foreground. That's new crust being formed right before our eyes.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:34 AM (sdi6R)

701 Hmmm.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 04:34 AM (iTpm7)

702 That's new crust being formed right before our eyes.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:34 AM (sdi6R)

That happens to me every morning. New crust before my eyes.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 04:35 AM (iTpm7)

703 Hmmm ?

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:36 AM (BvUjA)

704 That happens to me every morning. New crust before my eyes.


Posted by: Miley,


That's pretty funny; even though I'm eating breakfast.

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:41 AM (BvUjA)

705 That's pretty funny; even though I'm eating breakfast.

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:41 AM (BvUjA)

It could be a croissant. You never know.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 04:44 AM (iTpm7)

706 I'm off to sleep. Good night, y'all!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 04:46 AM (iTpm7)

707 Nope.

Pork roll on an English muffin.

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:46 AM (BvUjA)

708 Nite Miley.

Was it something I said ?

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2018 04:47 AM (BvUjA)

709 Good night, Miley. I should go back to sleep myself.

I went to bed early, then woke up in the middle of the night. Now I'm sitting here watching the lava cam and reading about the B-24 at Wikipedia.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:48 AM (sdi6R)

710 Wow, check this out. "Notable B-24 Crewmen"

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y73tay7a

A lot of familiar names there.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:56 AM (sdi6R)

711
By some insane coincidence, my strange username had been claimed, so if that happens to you, you might have pick something besides "Farmer"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:44 AM (UiRxW)


Gab does not allow spaces in your username. You can use ubderscore instead. The second you type a space in your possible name, gab says it's already claimed, which is a misleading error message.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 04:58 AM (pNxlR)

712 Early Morning Horde.

Be at work no later than 0430!!

Doors locked.

Le sad face.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 05:05 AM (xhZSJ)

713 Had a sore throat when I went to bed, little worse now. Running around all week in rain without much covering didn't help.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:18 AM (aC6Sd)

714 Should have seen where the pop up ad was going, woman getting surprised in bed. These pop ups I get are like tv commercials, very benign.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:21 AM (aC6Sd)

715 Thanks YD and KvC, help much appreciated.

Posted by: Farmer at May 20, 2018 05:23 AM (yJ1e6)

716 Might as well make coffee and wait for the EMT to show up.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:25 AM (aC6Sd)

717 What does GAB do or used for?

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:25 AM (aC6Sd)

718 Fritos and Dr. Pepper are breakfast foods, right?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 05:28 AM (xhZSJ)

719 Er, no

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:29 AM (aC6Sd)

720 Only if you didn't get to bed at all yet

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:30 AM (aC6Sd)

721 Skip @ 713- Dress for the weather! Running around in the rain without much cover is......sorta.....cargocultish.....isn't it?

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 05:31 AM (zLDYs)

722 I work inside, but continue to run out to my truck for tools. Did also run around here 3 evenings in the rain.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:33 AM (aC6Sd)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 20, 2018 05:42 AM (mpXpK)

724 The rain does suck. Maybe it is global warming.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 05:43 AM (/qEW2)

725 That lava flow is awesome, not unlike a tornado destroying everything in its path.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:43 AM (aC6Sd)

726 May be a bit o' rain here in ETEX Tue/Wed/Thur/Fri. That would make the maters, okra, watermelon, eggplant, and peppers happyhappyhappy. And no, I doubt I'll dress for the weather either.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 05:44 AM (zLDYs)

727 As of yesterday Wednesday is first day without a chance of rain

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:45 AM (aC6Sd)

728 Guess we're heading over to the EMT

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:50 AM (aC6Sd)

729 Guess we're heading over to the EMT
Posted by: Skip

Not yet, though Vic is in the start blocks

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2018 05:52 AM (8ikIW)

730 Now I'm sitting here watching the lava cam and reading about the B-24 at Wikipedia.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:48 AM (sdi6R)


B-24 link was pretty cool. That 55 min thing was what we used to call "tach time".

Every auto plant I worked in was around 1:00 to 1:15.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:54 AM (UdYkW)

731 NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2018 05:55 AM (8ikIW)

732 Can't say I ever wanted to be a princess as a little girl.


*shrugs*


But yeah, a lot of women still believe in fairy tales.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 20, 2018 01:51 AM (MKLBv)
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not to rip scabs, but ISTR that you were one man's princess, and that's more than most people ever get.

you may now hate me forever.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 05:59 AM (K6DB5)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-19-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Number Five

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So, here I am with the next installment of "Let's go through my personal top ten movies of all time because it's all about me!"

Moving chronologically after Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey is Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now.


The Seventies

In terms of the 1970s of American cinema, in my opinion, the most imposing individual was Francis Ford Coppola. Beyond his own creative output, which was obviously significant, he helped foster some of the most prominent filmmakers of the generation with relationships from mentor to collaborator with people like George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, and Paul Schrader. He was at the center of the new movement of American cinema that we're still seeing the effects of today (most are still making movies, although generally just not at the same level of quality as when they first started).

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But back in the seventies, Coppola was king. From '72 to '79, he made four movies. All four were nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. He won for two of them (The Conversation's loss was to his own The Godfather Part II). The second loss was to Apocalypse Now, which lost to Kramer vs. Kramer Now, I do really like Kramer vs. Kramer, but it's nothing compared to the mad odyssey into the depths of the jungle that is Apocalypse Now.


A Difficulty

With the other movies on my list, I had little difficulty explaining to myself why I loved them individually. The disparate parts of each film assembled so easily together into something often beautiful that I found the experience of writing about them easy. Apocalypse Now is very different. I really see it as a work of genuine madness. Coppola went into the jungle and lost his mind on the way out, the perfect mirror of the main character's journey, and I really do feel like the movie captures that amazingly well.

But then that leads to the question: How does madness lead to great art? How do you read an art born of madness?

I think the only way to really approach it in an abstract sense. Its effect on the viewer as he watches it. There are arguments that all art should be approached that way, but I do personally feel that formal structural and character based approaches are important to both creating and taking in art, but Apocalypse Now largely forbears any formal approach. Long story short, this post is going to be messy. Let's roll!


Apocalypse Now

Rewatching the movie for this post, I was struck by something that I've seemingly never really processed before. The movie is gorgeous to look at. The colors are vibrant with the wide range of greens of the jungle and the great palate of colors that fill in the gaps. The framing of every shot is beautiful, especially around the flight of the helicopters during the "Ride of the Valkyrie" scene. Even during smaller moments, like when Kilgore walks out of frame, it's perfectly shot.

Kilgore is crouching down, talking to Willard, ending on a melancholy note, and then proceeds to stand up and just walk to the right. We never see him again. He just disappears into the war. It's such a perfect end for him, and it's done through simple and effective framing.

Besides, the movie is filled with shots like these:

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Themes

As with my other favorite films, Apocalypse Now isn't terribly explicit about what the movie is actually about. The closest it gets, I think, is this line from General Corman near the beginning of the film:

Well, you see, Willard, in this war, things get confused out there. Power, ideals, the old morality, and practical military necessity. But out there with these natives, it must be a temptation to be God. Because there's a conflict in every human heart, between the rational and irration, between good and evil. And good does not always triumph. Sometimes, the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature.

That quote outlines the idea at the heart of the film. The conflict between the rational and irrational and good and evil. What we end up seeing during Willard trek up the river into Cambodia is the increasing madness.

Is that madness specific to the Vietnam War? The surface of the movie? Is that all there is?

I don't think so. I think that the surface is part of the equation, but also the least interesting part. As with all great art, Coppola uses the subject of his film to talk to more immediate and relatable concerns. Not much of the audience lived through Vietnam in country, but most of the audience has seen madness. They've understood obsession. They've understood being lost. They've also understood making a choice to turn back from madness.


The Journey's End

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Many people consider the journey to Kurtz to be great, but once Willard actually gets there, for the movie to peter out. I disagree, the ending is my favorite part of the whole thing.
I believe that part of the issue people have is with Marlon Brando. It's not that he plays the part badly, but that he's pretty obviously fat. He promised to show up lean and mean to the set, but he just loved eating too much to actually do what he promised. Coppola panicked. Kurtz wasn't going to be the highly mobile killing machine as he was in the script. Instead, Coppola had to find another solution, choosing to shoot Brando mostly in shadow and turning what was supposed to be a thin man of action in a bulking heavy threat. I actually think that the combination of shadows that the man's size, along with his insane ramblings makes him a rather terrifying figure.

I consider the threat of madness infecting others to be a more imposing threat than a single man swinging through the jungle as some great killer, and by stripping Kurtz of the physicality of the character's original ideal and leaving him with only the madness makes the madness all that much stronger in my mind.

And besides, the actual death scene is fantastic, using the sacrificial bull to imply that Kurtz himself is a sacrifice, but to what? Is Willard killing Kurtz out of orders? He says no in the voiceover. I think that it's a rejection of the madness in its entirety. What solidifies that in my mind is how Willard could obviously take Kurtz's place, but he simply grabs Lance, the last member of the boat crew, and walks away.


In Conclusion

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The movie is both a hard watch and an easy one. It's hard because of the inhumanity on display and the questions that it raises. It's easy to watch because of the magnificent cinematography on display and the great performances by everyone involved.

In regards to the two versions of the film, I've only ever seen the original cut. I actually own the Redux version (the DVD I bought years ago came with both on the same pair of discs), but I've simply refused to watch it. I'll probably do it one day. I've heard both good things (people saying that it finally completes the package of the movie and makes it great) and bad things (those saying that, in particular, the French plantation isn't worth the price of admission and doesn't add to the movie in any significant way).

In the end, though, this work of madness by a madman who lost himself in the jungle is one of the most significant and greatest films made. A great companion piece, by the way, is Hearts of Darkness, the movie that Coppola's wife made about the making of the movie.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Deadpool 2
Book Club
Show Dogs

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Danton

Movies I Saw This Week:
Bullhead (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Poster blurb: "A compelling story of immasculinity with one very hard scene to watch." [Netflix DVD]
Paths of Glory (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Absolutely devastating portrait of the abuse of power. Kubrick's most emotionally affecting movie." [Personal Collection]
Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Very funny satire." [Personal Collection]
A Clockwork Orange (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) [Rewatch] "Alternating Kubrick's easiest and most difficult movie to understand." [Personal Collection]
Barry Lyndon (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Kubrick's other greatest movie ever." [Personal Collection]
The Shining (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Pure cinematic horror." [Personal Collection]
Full Metal Jacket (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "I've never quite understood the love for this movie. The first half is great, but the second half feels muddled." [Personal Collection]
Eyes Wide Shut (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Seriously underappreciated. This movie is biting and great." [Personal Collection]
Airplane! (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) [Rewatch] "Just…so funny." [Personal Collection]
Airplane II: The Sequel (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Another victim of 'not as good as the original' being equated with 'bad'." [Personal Collection]
Apocalypse Now (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "What he said." [Personal Collection]
Galaxy Quest (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) [Rewatch] "One of the best Star Trek movies ever." [Personal Collection]
Avengers: Infinity War (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Large, bombastic entertainment. Pretty good stuff." [Theater]


Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.

I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.

And, please, visit my website.

My first collection of short stories is on sale now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:17 PM




Comments

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1 Wake up, dickheads! Faust is here!

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2018 07:11 PM (XoAz8)

2 !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 07:11 PM (um4Es)

3
Wake up, dickheads! Faust is here!
Posted by: Gem


The devil, you say!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (IqV8l)

4 Never really watched it, though I've seen parts of it.

But I love 'Pork Lips Now.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

5 Just a little RLM quote to get things going.

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (XoAz8)

6 Kilgore is crouching down, talking to Willard, ending on a melancholy note, and then proceeds to stand up and just walk to the right. We never see him again. He just disappears into the war. It's such a perfect end for him, and it's done through simple and effective framing.




Yes, it was. Which is why the Redux was such a travesty. The added scenes of him looking for his surf board were better left out of the movie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (SiINZ)

7 There was a post on FB from I don't know who but it was promoting Book Club. I scrolled through the comments and EVERY person on there said they refused to see anything with the traitor Fonda in it. I hope it bombs.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:13 PM (dUJdY)

8 And Charlie don't surf...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:14 PM (MMrzc)

9 Charlie don't surf.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

10 Wait wut? Kubrick directed Airplane! ?

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (EzdLW)

11 Jinx!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (MVjcR)

12 I'm a whipper snapper. But had a neighbor who was an Army Vietnam veteran. Anyway, we used to get together and watch movies on the weekends. One time we watched "Apocolypse Now" (on VHS). After it was over, he said to me "That's exactly what it was like".

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (sXefu)

13 It is a good movie to see, no where near my favorite war movie.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (aC6Sd)

14 Just a little RLM quote to get things going.

Robert Louis Mevenson ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 07:17 PM (um4Es)

15 13 It is a good movie to see, no where near my favorite war movie.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (aC6Sd)

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Neither is it mine.

The Thin Red Line is mine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:18 PM (Jj43a)

16 but it's nothing compared to the mad odyssey into the depths of the jungle that is Apocalypse Now.

The thing about Coppola is ... Apocalypse Now was arguably the best movie ever made ... until Coppola put out his crappy "Director's Cut" which turned it into one of the shittiest movies ever made. Amazing that Francis could manage that with just a couple of added scenes which managed to destroy the entire movie.

The studio's cut of Apocalypse Now was fantastic. Coppola's was absolute dogshit.

Make of it what you will but thems the facts.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:18 PM (uSurQ)

17 Not a lot of people know this, but Apocalypse Now was actually based on the Joseph Conrad novel Moby-Dick.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 07:19 PM (y87Qq)

18 Wait wut? Kubrick directed Airplane! ?

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (EzdLW)



Surely you must be joking

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 07:19 PM (SiINZ)

19 There are miniature figure rules for Vietnam under the name Charlie Don't Surf.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:19 PM (aC6Sd)

20 What was really great about Apocalypse Now was Heart of Darkness, really. You don't get source material that good every day.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:20 PM (uSurQ)

21 Karate school in Man with a Golden Gun is fun

70s is when martial arts got popular in Hollywood right?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 07:20 PM (hMwEB)

22 Coppola went into the jungle and lost his mind on the way out


Too much cocaina can do that to a fella' it can others a heart attack too.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 07:20 PM (NY0r1)

23 Robert Louis Mevenson ?
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 07:17 PM (um4Es)


Reichsluftfahrtministerium.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (y87Qq)

24 I don't like Apocalypse Now. I understand its greatness, but I don't enjoy it.

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (XoAz8)

25 Debra Winger as a not much older than a teenager in Wonder Woman episode

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (aC6Sd)

26 20 What was really great about Apocalypse Now was Heart of Darkness, really. You don't get source material that good every day.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:20 PM (uSurQ)

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Joseph Conrad was the shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (Jj43a)

27 TheJamesMadison'sPhone:

"The Thin Red Line is mine."

Wow. Not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested, because I hated that movie. No offense. I'm generally a war movie fan, and I was completely let down. Thought it was beyond boring when it wasn't completely fatuous. What made it your favorite?

Posted by: JPS at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (9ziuC)

28 Reichsluftfahrtministerium.

Oh. Him.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (um4Es)

29 27 TheJamesMadison'sPhone:

"The Thin Red Line is mine."

Wow. Not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested, because I hated that movie. No offense. I'm generally a war movie fan, and I was completely let down. Thought it was beyond boring when it wasn't completely fatuous. What made it your favorite?
Posted by: JPS at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (9ziuC)

========

I'll do a post on it in a few months.

But, short hand, I love Terrence Malick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (Jj43a)

30 I like Apocalypse Now. But I'm not sure that it's a good movie per se, so much as a series of great vignettes that are so entertaining that it makes up for the fact that it the movie as a whole doesn't quite add up.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 19, 2018 07:23 PM (H5knJ)

31 Charlie don't surf!



Apocalypse Now is my fave.

https://youtu.be/AArnc3PPgGs

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 07:23 PM (e7oj4)

32 Apocalypse Now I have seen in fragments but have never evinced any strong desire to actually see the whole movie because it's not really about what happened and more about the time frame it was released. Movies from that era like The Deer Hunter had already colored the cynical prism I view movies about Viet Nam. Just as I can't remember a single scene from Platoon except the F-5s dropping nape and wondering if the pilots could take out the film crew also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:24 PM (MMrzc)

33 I don't like Apocalypse Now. I understand its greatness, but I don't enjoy it.

Posted by: Gem
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I hear it's better if one ingests quantities of value rite+ before watching.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 07:24 PM (NY0r1)

34 The Thin Red Line is mine as well.

I get why it rubs folks the wrong way though. Or at least I think I do.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 19, 2018 07:25 PM (H5knJ)

35 Apocalypse Now; one of my favorite war movies of all time.


The filmed part of that movie in the Philippines while I was there too.


And I have it on Bluray.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 07:25 PM (mpXpK)

36 In regards to the two versions of the film, I've only ever seen the original cut. I actually own the Redux version (the DVD I bought years ago came with both on the same pair of discs), but I've simply refused to watch it.

++++

Why? I thought you were all about going with the director's cut? Coppola was the driving force behind Redux, from start to finish. While he never turned his back on his original, Redux is Coppola's vision.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 07:26 PM (pvjTE)

37 Favorite scene is the helos coming in to the tune of Ride of the Valkyrie.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 07:27 PM (mpXpK)

38 16 The studio's cut of Apocalypse Now was fantastic. Coppola's was absolute dogshit.

Make of it what you will but thems the facts.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:18 PM (uSurQ)


I generally prefer the "director's cuts" over the theatrical versions of films, but Redux is one of the few exceptions. It improves nothing and, in some places, causes regressions--most notably with the aforementioned Kilgore scene.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 19, 2018 07:27 PM (NL6wI)

39 32 Apocalypse Now I have seen in fragments but have never evinced any strong desire to actually see the whole movie

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same here

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 07:27 PM (hMwEB)

40 Paths of Glory (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Absolutely devastating portrait of the abuse of power. Kubrick's most emotionally affecting movie." [Personal Collection]

I'll reiterate what I said about this:

Regardless of anyone's intentions, I never saw anything in Paths of Glory that was a general; comment about power or abuse. All I saw was a commentary on the French and a movie of them being the cheese-eating surrender monkeys they are.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:27 PM (uSurQ)

41 I like Apocalypse Now. But I'm not sure that it's a good movie per se, so much as a series of great vignettes that are so entertaining that it makes up for the fact that it the movie as a whole doesn't quite add up.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 19, 2018 07:23 PM (H5knJ)

I'm glad someone else has the same assessment. There are great moments but the story just isn't there.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 07:28 PM (J70i0)

42 You can't talk about 70s movies without mentioning Rocky. It was one of the most significant movies made and had a very deep cultural impact of its own.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:28 PM (uSurQ)

43 I took a date to Apocalypse Now when it came out.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:28 PM (MVjcR)

44 Those nekkid women dancing out there in the middle of hell was pretty surreal.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (NY0r1)

45 On war films. I just saw Dunkirk last night. I really enjoyed it, especially once I understood Nolan's time frame approach. Loved the cinematography. The score was great and matched what was happening on screen, so I don't get why some people didn't like it. But I could I also see why some of the criticisms about it not showing the sheer scale of what happened, though.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

46 FMJ and Hamburger Hill to me are better Vietnam movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

47 36
Why? I thought you were all about going with the director's cut? Coppola was the driving force behind Redux, from start to finish. While he never turned his back on his original, Redux is Coppola's vision.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 07:26 PM (pvjTE

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That's fair.

But I'm a terrible person, so I'm inconsistent.

I love the movies as it stands in the original, and I don't want to mess with that in my head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (Jj43a)

48 I saw Redux and wish I hadn't. The extra scenes don't add anything IMHO to the basic story. The scene with Kilgore begging for return of his stolen surf board, from a loudspeaker on his helicopter, is silly.

Posted by: Gref at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (AMIL/)

49 Wow. Not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested, because I hated that movie. No offense. I'm generally a war movie fan, and I was completely let down. Thought it was beyond boring when it wasn't completely fatuous. What made it your favorite?
Posted by: JPS at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (9ziuC)

I thought the point was the senselessness of war. However it seemed like a poor man's Paths of Glory.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 07:30 PM (J70i0)

50 45 On war films. I just saw Dunkirk last night. I really enjoyed it, especially once I understood Nolan's time frame approach. Loved the cinematography. The score was great and matched what was happening on screen, so I don't get why some people didn't like it. But I could I also see why some of the criticisms about it not showing the sheer scale of what happened, though.
Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

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According to the Horse, it was the best movie of 2017.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (Jj43a)

51 Maybe in the Redux Coppola should have sacrificed Kilgore in a volcano. Or the surfboard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (MMrzc)

52 Just re-watched _Bridge On The River Kwai_ on DVD. One thing that struck me was how UN-realistic it is. I mean, it's a great movie and I love it, but it's totally unrealistic. And I don't just mean the way that Colonel Nicholson's insanity gradually takes over both the British POWs and their Japanese captors. I mean things like the commandos trying to time their mission to catch a train going over the bridge, or the oddly civilized and restrained behavior of the Japanese. (Conditions in the actual slave-labor camps on that rail line were far more brutal.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (zOGzb)

53 Maybe it's just cause I'm an 'ette, but I seriously dislike this movie. So scenes are so dark and so loud that I can't tell anything that's going on. It is just completely unwatchable for me. I'm not into having to work for a movie. I want to be entertained and this is not it. Hubby loves it, but he has to rewatch it with his headphones on or I will lose my mind. Too each his own.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (RfzVr)

54 Couple of Vietnam films I liked:
The Boys In Company C
We Were Soldiers
Bat*21

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (EzdLW)

55 Paths of Glory has to be in my top 10 war movies, never miss it when it's on. Saw it a few months ago.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (aC6Sd)

56 1. madness doesn't lead to great art.

2. i thought apocalypse now was sort of a mess - tedious and pretentious.

3. speaking of the 70's, there's a columbo coming up tonight on cozi, the rerun station called "publish or perish". it's about an author (played by micky spillane!
) killed by a publisher. the plot turns on his unpublished manuscript - "60 miles to saigon" - which is about a retired green beret who leaves his buddhist monastery to return to viet nam to rescue american p.o.w.'s. sound familiar?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 07:32 PM (Pg+x7)

57 25
Debra Winger as a not much older than a teenager in Wonder Woman episode

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (aC6Sd)

And she is so short!

She comes up to Lynda Carter's chin.
Nice yellow outfit, too.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 07:32 PM (8iiMU)

58 54 Couple of Vietnam films I liked:
The Boys In Company C
We Were Soldiers
Bat*21

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (EzdLW)

>>>

I enjoyed Hamburger Hill, too.

Posted by: Gref at May 19, 2018 07:32 PM (AMIL/)

59 But I could I also see why some of the criticisms about it not showing the sheer scale of what happened, though.
Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

I mentioned a week or two ago that it really is an old style war film with a modest budget. You got a small slice of what was going on. However, I can understand why some people wouldn't like that.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 07:34 PM (J70i0)

60 Yes, We Were Soldiers was a damn good movie too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 07:34 PM (mpXpK)

61
scenes are so dark and so loud that I can't tell anything that's going on. It is just completely unwatchable for me.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM



cfo mom, that's how I feel about a lot of today's movies.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:34 PM (EzdLW)

62 The scene with Kilgore begging for return of his stolen surf board, from a loudspeaker on his helicopter, is silly.

Posted by: Gref at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (AMIL/)


The worst part of the additions to the surf scenes was Willard yukking it up with the others and the surfboard stealing - totally out of character for Willard, to put it mildly, and part of the reason that the director's cut absolutely destroyed the movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (uSurQ)

63 I try to be shallow and generally avoid deep thoughtful analysis - but I always thought Apocalypse Now was meant to coney the absolute chaos of war. It's about different things to different people in different situations.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

64 I really liked Dunkirk, little disappointed it didn't take a wider view but as a personal viewpoint it was extremely good.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (aC6Sd)

65 I saw AN with my parents as a teen in a theater when it came out. It took another viewing years later for me to sort of understanding what was going on. Then I read Heart of Darkness and realized AN was a ripoff without knowing about it beforehand. Anyway I still liked both, specially the dancing cowgirl bunny.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (UdKB7)

66 The most disturbing scene in AN is the interview scene

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:36 PM (PUmDY)

67 ... rambo!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 07:36 PM (Pg+x7)

68 But I'm a terrible person, so I'm inconsistent.

I love the movies as it stands in the original, and I don't want to mess with that in my head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (Jj43a)

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Finally! You admit it.

That's somewhat how I feel about Blade Runner. I saw the original and loved it. I did watch his dogshit director's cut, though. It just wasn't as good. But, I gave him a chance.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 07:36 PM (pvjTE)

69 63 I try to be shallow and generally avoid deep thoughtful analysis - but I always thought Apocalypse Now was meant to coney the absolute chaos of war. It's about different things to different people in different situations.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

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That's what's great about art and there's delivered dramatically instead of explicitly. There are more than one valid interpretations.

I like mine.

Yours is probably just as good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:37 PM (Jj43a)

70 68 Finally! You admit it.

That's somewhat how I feel about Blade Runner. I saw the original and loved it. I did watch his dogshit director's cut, though. It just wasn't as good. But, I gave him a chance.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 07:36 PM (pvjTE)

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Oh, I've admitted it to my wife many times. And she agrees.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (Jj43a)

71 Darkness as allegory is one thing as in Sin City but when most of a movie is murky, Ghost in the Shell live action, it simply becomes uninteresting and might as well watch the gray paint dry.

Loudness, yeah the whole 'cinematic experience' of being subjected to 2000W of bass booming plus explosions. Earplugs become required. It in fact detracts because your ears are bleeding.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (MMrzc)

72 I actually liked AP better than Platoon. But Full Metal Jacket takes the cake. Hamburger Hill was ok too. I always wondered why a movie was not made of Sand In The Wind. Or was one made and I never heard of it? Bottom line for me is this, did the people who made the movie (or wrote the book) seek to blame America for everything?

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 07:39 PM (zLDYs)

73 but I always thought Apocalypse Now was meant to coney the absolute chaos of war. It's about different things to different people in different situations.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)


I thought it was pretty explicitly about the hypocrisy that is endemic to fighting with one hand tied behind your back while claiming that you are fighting to win. That was the point Kurtz was making and Willard generally accepted it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:39 PM (uSurQ)

74 I enjoyed We Were Soldiers except for the Barry Pepper, photographer scene. It simply didn't work.

Side note, I got to hear one of the guys who was a Ranger in the Mogadishu fiasco. He was in that movie as an advisor and is on the firing line in a scene or two. I guess Gibson came by and joked with him about him acting like a soldier.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 07:40 PM (J70i0)

75 Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:37 PM (Jj43a)
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Watch the expression on the face of the Cajun chef during the helo beach assault scene. He shows several different emotional reactions without saying a word.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:41 PM (vX75W)

76 I've got to say that Debra Winger fills a Wonder Woman outfit near bout as well as Lynda Carter. Yowsa!
That is all.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:41 PM (UdKB7)

77 76
I've got to say that Debra Winger fills a Wonder Woman outfit near bout as well as Lynda Carter. Yowsa!

That is all.



Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:41 PM (UdKB7)

Yes indeed!
She ate just enough fast food to be curvy!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 07:42 PM (8iiMU)

78 018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

I thought it was pretty explicitly about the hypocrisy that is endemic to fighting with one hand tied behind your back while claiming that you are fighting to win. That was the point Kurtz was making and Willard generally accepted it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:39 PM (uSurQ)
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That's certainly valid, too.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

79 I'm pretty sure Francis Ford Coppola also wrote the screenplay for Patton, which was when - 1970? 1971? So yeah, I guess the Seventies were good for him.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:42 PM (EzdLW)

80 When it comes to Blade Runner, either the work print version or The Final Cut are the only ones I watch.

Blade Runner 2049, there are plenty of filler dead scenes that could be cut and no one would notice. For example the long shots of a deserted Las Vegas, did we really need multiple establishing shots to prove the place is a wasteland? The original movie on a far smaller budget implied a decaying world far better than the sequel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (MMrzc)

81 Duvall Valkyries scene was over the top and not meant to be taken seriously. I am probably incorrect

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (PUmDY)

82 A great - GREAT! - movie from the 70s that I haven't seen in a long time (and doesn't appear to be on Netflix) is The White Dawn, with Lou Gossett, Warren Oates and one of the Bottoms guys. It is an awesome movie. The first version I saw was without subtitles for the eskimo conversations (so, point of view of Oates and the crew) but I saw a later version with subtitles for the eskimos. I liked the version without subtitles better.

I highly recommend this movie if you can find it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:44 PM (uSurQ)

83 I read "Heart of Darkness" many moons ago.

Conrad is boring, guilt ridden and long winded.

I tried to read his other book about the sea captain and it was more of the same; dark, boring, crap. Couldn't finish it.

Apocalypse Now was meh. I always thought in the real world Col. Kurtz would have whacked Martin Sheen before he even got to the compound. Probably would have worn his ears to the bull's dance.

"Hard Eight". Now that's a movie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (EoRCO)

84 46 FMJ and Hamburger Hill to me are better Vietnam movies.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

--Apocalypse Now is less a war movie than about the human condition: dissimulation, duty, and making the best of a shitty situation.

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (e7oj4)

85 Bottom line for me is this, did the people who made the movie (or wrote the book) seek to blame America for everything?

Posted by: Eromero
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That's rhetorical, right?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (NY0r1)

86 Other good war movies:

Sand Pebbles
Gallipoli
Das Boot

My late husband's father was on a gun boat in China during the Depression. He always said he understood why Mao won.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (Lqy/e)

87 I'm pretty sure Francis Ford Coppola also wrote the screenplay for Patton, which was when - 1970? 1971? So yeah, I guess the Seventies were good for him.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:42 PM (EzdLW)


He did it was 1970

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

88 81 Duvall Valkyries scene was over the top and not meant to be taken seriously. I am probably incorrect
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (PUmDY)
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I think it was over the top on purpose. The boat crew at least seem to be wondering what the hell they were doing.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

89 I found Apocalypse Now slow, but I also have a short attention span.

Dad was attached to ARVN and worked with many Hmong and hill people before major U.S. involvement in the war, and he said that movie was the closest depiction to his own experience there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2018 07:46 PM (EZebt)

90 Das Boot has to be on my list

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

91 Love this post every week James. Thanks.

Posted by: Mega at May 19, 2018 07:47 PM (rv0Fo)

92 FMJ was more of a boot camp movie than a war movie. but it is the best boot camp movie every made.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 07:47 PM (mpXpK)

93 If it was serious, it was crap.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:47 PM (PUmDY)

94 Das Boot

Porsche dealership representative, "All right, who's the U-boat commander?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:48 PM (MMrzc)

95 91 Love this post every week James. Thanks.
Posted by: Mega at May 19, 2018 07:47 PM (rv0Fo)

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That means a lot.

Thank you very much!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:48 PM (Jj43a)

96 Deadpool 2 was a bit of a disappointment. The movies ends about 30 minutes before the end, but it just keeps ending and ending and ending. Endlessly.

Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2018 07:48 PM (VWE5i)

97 "So, here I am with the next installment of "Let's go through my personal top ten movies of all time because it's all about me!""

Are you sure you are not Ann Althouse?

Posted by: NCC at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (c1ah2)

98 Watched Unlocked today on tv. Spy thriller woulda been ok but of course the CIA are tge bad guys and tge Muslim imam is the good guy.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (hMwEB)

99 Kurtz's madness wasn't madness, it was a rejection of all morality. He gives his horrifying speech of a pile of "little arms" and then says a small group of people who have no compunction at maiming small children, no moral sense which would get in the way, would be unstoppable. Morality is a hindrance, it stops us from doing what is necessary to accomplish our goals. That's the same reason why people are fascinated by serial killers: we think they have a strength, an ability to move past morality, and do what they want. The problem of course is that it's not a strength, it's a lack. It's not that such people have a power that normal people don't have, they lack a power that normal people do have, and that allows them to behave like mere animals, creatures that do not bear the image of God.

Posted by: Jim S. at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (ynUnH)

100 Blade Runner 2049, there are plenty of filler
dead scenes that could be cut and no one would notice. For example the
long shots of a deserted Las Vegas, did we really need multiple
establishing shots to prove the place is a wasteland? The original movie
on a far smaller budget implied a decaying world far better than the
sequel.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (MMrzc)


Ridley Scott should smoke a turds in hell for the absolute asshattery he has wrought with his sequels.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (sXefu)

101 The movies ends about 30 minutes before the end, but it just keeps ending and ending and ending. Endlessly.

Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2018 07:48 PM (VWE5i)


I felt exactly that way about Age of Innocence ... though it seemed like a hell of a lot longer than 30 minutes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (uSurQ)

102 97 "So, here I am with the next installment of "Let's go through my personal top ten movies of all time because it's all about me!""

Are you sure you are not Ann Althouse?
Posted by: NCC at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (c1ah2)

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I am not nearly obsessed enough with vocabulary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:50 PM (Jj43a)

103
Kurtz wasn't going to be the highly mobile killing machine as he was in the script. Instead, Coppola had to find another solution, choosing to shoot Brando mostly in shadow and turning what was supposed to be a thin man of action in a bulking heavy threat.



I coulda been somebody. I coulda been a mobile killin' machine, instead of a fat heavy threat, which is what I am.

Posted by: Zombie Marlon Brando at May 19, 2018 07:50 PM (EzdLW)

104 Other good war movies:

Sand Pebbles
Gallipoli
Das Boot

My late husband's father was on a gun boat in China during the Depression. He always said he understood why Mao won.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (Lqy/e)

Sand Pebbles is an interesting film. The cynic lives while idealists (patriot and globalist) bite the dust.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 07:51 PM (J70i0)

105 Apocalypse Now could have been set in most any war, as long as they had rivers to go up.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:51 PM (UdKB7)

106 TJM, You've had a Kubrick kind of week.

I saw Full Metal Jacket in tne theater twice. I was so
blown away, I went back the next night and saw it again.

First half = micro level madness
Second half = macro level madness

The NVA demonstrated what they would do to the south if they won, and that is what they did.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2018 07:52 PM (EZebt)

107 Bridge on the River Kwai is gorgeous and one of my absolute favorites. A must see.

Posted by: Mega at May 19, 2018 07:52 PM (rv0Fo)

108 Aaahh, 1976.
LOL:


Wonder Woman!
Wonder Woman!



All the world is waiting for you

and the power you possess

In your satin tights

fighting for your rights

And the old red white and blue



At least there is some patriotism there.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 07:53 PM (8iiMU)

109 Pretentious steaming pile.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at May 19, 2018 07:53 PM (yScAF)

110 Movies I saw this week:

"Darkworld" on Netflix. Not a bad horror movie, not great either.

"Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." I saw it on the big screen, with a live Q&A with William Shatner afterwards. If you ever get a chance to see him live, do it. He is a great storyteller.

Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (ANIFC)

111 Sara Carter is hot.

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (e7oj4)

112 106 TJM, You've had a Kubrick kind of week.

I saw Full Metal Jacket in tne theater twice. I was so
blown away, I went back the next night and saw it again.

First half = micro level madness
Second half = macro level madness

The NVA demonstrated what they would do to the south if they won, and that is what they did.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2018 07:52 PM (EZebt)

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I've been trying to read people who think the movie's great in order to see what I'm missing.

I haven't read anything to move me yet, but I'm still looking.

I really want to love it, I just don't yet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (Jj43a)

113
I was just looking. With this royal wedding shit, as is tradition, the Queen gives a royal all sort of titles upon marriage. And Meghan gets em too.

So Meghan is now Duchess of Sussex, Countess of Dumbarton, and Baroness Kilkeel. I like that. The Lady Kilkeel. Kate is the Lady Carrickfergus with here Irish title same thing. If I wuz here, I think I'd demand to be called the Lady Carrickfergus all the time.

That's England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. That's some big deal, got to get all three in there.

I'm only interested in the Duchess of plain Sex.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (8O3HH)

114 111 Sara Carter is hot.
Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (e7oj4)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:55 PM (MVjcR)

115 Westworld on hbo had a Kurtz "new narrative"

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:56 PM (PUmDY)

116 John Saxon just chloroformed Debra Winger and "20 Million Miles to Earth" is coming on Svengoolie. All this for free, right out of the air!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:56 PM (UdKB7)

117 Conrad's novel has as its center feature the colonization of a civilization that's more primitive than the colonizers' homeland, and man's inhumanity to man. Civilizing brutes.

kurtz was treated like a godlike figure, wasn't he? I've never been able to finish the novel, or the film. seen the napalm in the morning and the Wagner scenes, but overheard the rest from somewhere else in the house, as i kept house, cooked, etc.

my take: Coppola borrowed Conrad's greatness trying to make artistic sense of Vietnam. I'm not sure the dots all connect. for me.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 07:57 PM (uJ09Y)

118 Pretentious steaming pile.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at May 19, 2018 07:53 PM (yScAF)


I saw them open for tUnE-yArDs at the 9:30 Club.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 07:57 PM (sXefu)

119 The best theory I ever heard about Apocalypse Now was from John Nolte of Breitbart. I don't know if its his theory or one he heard about. Basically, Apocalypse Now is a retelling of Dante's Inferno. In the beginning of the movie, with The End hauntingly playing, Willard loses his mind. And then shoots himself. The rest of the movie is him descending into Hell, Dante style. With each part of the movie a further decent into Hell. Lots of holes in this theory but I still kind of like it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 07:57 PM (pY+s4)

120 I think for Teddy?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:57 PM (PUmDY)

121 Loved the original Apocalypse Now; hated Redux. Less is more.

Posted by: Toad-O at May 19, 2018 07:58 PM (cct0t)

122 A fat Marlon Brando?

The horror, the horror....

Posted by: Col. Kurtz at May 19, 2018 07:58 PM (7ThJ3)

123

Helicopters flying to the tune of "Kill the Wabbit"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 07:59 PM (IqV8l)

124 Charlie can't meme.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2018 07:59 PM (rnAwa)

125 Just got done watching Valerian.

Horribly miscast.

Posted by: MAGA at May 19, 2018 07:59 PM (LnOh3)

126 Is the new ceasing any good?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 07:59 PM (PUmDY)

127 >>> Willard loses his mind. And then shoots himself. The rest of the movie is him descending into Hell

**** SPOILER ****

A lot like Jacob's Ladder

Posted by: fluffy at May 19, 2018 07:59 PM (cHbmY)

128 I have a funny feeling in my chest...I think it's from being around all of these guns.

Posted by: Marin Sheene at May 19, 2018 08:00 PM (7ThJ3)

129 Kate is the Lady Carrickfergus with here Irish title same thing. If I wuz here, I think I'd demand to be called the Lady Carrickfergus all the time.



Did they play Carrickfergus for her?

I wish I was in Carrickfergus
Only for nights in Ballygrand
I would swim over the deepest ocean
Only for nights in Ballygrand

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:00 PM (SiINZ)

130 As TJM's list gets shorter I'm wondering which Bruce Lee movies is it that's in the top 5?

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)

131 116
John Saxon just chloroformed Debra Winger and "20 Million Miles to
Earth" is coming on Svengoolie. All this for free, right out of the air!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:56 PM (UdKB7)

And, 20 million miles to Earth is like, only 1/5 the way to the sun.....

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 08:01 PM (8iiMU)

132 Season

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:01 PM (PUmDY)

133 Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 07:57 PM (uJ09Y)

--Heart of Darknaess was more a novella than novel.

It fit quite snugly in my ~1,100 page reader for AP English, Literature and the Writing Process.

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 08:02 PM (e7oj4)

134 "And, 20 million miles to Earth is like, only 1/5 the way to the sun....."

Those are, um, Venusian miles.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:02 PM (UdKB7)

135 It has been over a decade since I watched it, but as Willard looks through Kurtz's things he finds a book called the Golden Bough. It is a huge book about the common strains of magic and superstition in primitive cultures and how it relates to the temple of Diane in Rome where a priest king would rule until he was sacrificed by the succeeding priest king. Obviously, Willard sacrifices Kurtz, and the natives accept him as the successor, but Willard rejects the priest-kingship. Heavy stuff...

Posted by: tommylotto at May 19, 2018 08:02 PM (WqpA2)

136 Hey I lean!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:02 PM (UdKB7)

137 Where's Kate Winslet? That thing is sinking.



Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 08:03 PM (8iiMU)

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 08:03 PM (e7oj4)

139 127: I loved Jacob's Ladder!! Underrated.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 08:03 PM (pY+s4)

140 Hi, Barrel.

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 08:03 PM (e7oj4)

141 A book which should be made into a movie is "Whistle" by James Jones.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:04 PM (EoRCO)

142 John Saxon just chloroformed Debra Winger and "20 Million Miles to Earth" is coming on Svengoolie. All this for free, right out of the air!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:56 PM (UdKB7)



The stuff on the retro stations is much better than the modern swill

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:04 PM (SiINZ)

143 My my bye bye logprof. Don't forget your full body condom.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:04 PM (UdKB7)

144
The horror... the... BARREL...

Posted by: Zombie Marlon Brando at May 19, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

145 I see that Fantom Events is showing June 11th a director's cut of Doctor Who: Genesis of the Daleks.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 08:05 PM (J70i0)

146 Not a lot of people know this, but Apocalypse Now was actually based on the Joseph Conrad novel Moby-Dick.

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So that's why Brando was a great white whale.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)

147 As TJM's list gets shorter I'm wondering which Bruce Lee movies is it that's in the top 5?

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)


Return of the Dragon is my favorite.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 08:06 PM (uSurQ)

148 Conrad's story is about Kurtz, an isolated man who who goes mad in the jungle. It takes place in the colonial Belgian Congo.
I didn't serve in Vietnam, so I can't address the authenticity of the film, but I have been in the jungles of Zaire (the Congo). The movie does capture the atmosphere of oppressive isolation one feels after a few weeks. I liked the movie, but don't really care to watch it very often.

Posted by: Raven One at May 19, 2018 08:06 PM (qSnW8)

149 I love the smell of the Barrel in the morning

Posted by: Col. Kilgore at May 19, 2018 08:06 PM (EzdLW)

150 Annosaurus Wrecks @ 146- Great White Whale?It was all that butter. And probably coconuit oil.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 08:07 PM (zLDYs)

151 "Return of the Dragon is my favorite"

I'm hoping TJM says" All of them".

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:08 PM (UdKB7)

152 The stuff on the retro stations is much better than the modern swill

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:04 PM (SiINZ)


Indeed! I was mesmerized by this scene, for the athleticism and the boobehs, but mostly for the boobehs. And, the young Debra Winger was cute.

https://youtu.be/WiriW2qX-Vc

Yeah, yeah, it's dubbed in Spanish, but does that really matter?





Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 08:09 PM (8iiMU)

153 They're chicken-fuckers, sent by pussies, to collect a Bill. No wonder I lost.

Posted by: colonel hillary shartz at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (Evws/)

154
I see that Fantom Events is showing June 11th a director's cut of Doctor Who: Genesis of the Daleks.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist


Does that mean it's even longer than the original long long long version?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

155 logprof, lol.

does the piece's length bear at all on the themes I mentioned?


oh, sorry; how long do you have to stay in that barrel?
do you have internet there?

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (uJ09Y)

156 I loved Jacob's Ladder!! Underrated.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 08:03 PM (pY+s4)


It's one of my top five ever. In any category.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (y87Qq)

157 I generally prefer the "director's cuts" over the theatrical versions of films, but Redux is one of the few exceptions. It improves nothing and, in some places, causes regressions--most notably with the aforementioned Kilgore scene.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 19, 2018 07:27 PM (NL6wI)

++++

The extra Playmate scenes were a definite improvement. Only a heartless Soviet commie could think otherwise.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:11 PM (pvjTE)

158 Indeed! I was mesmerized by this scene, for the athleticism and the boobehs, but mostly for the boobehs. And, the young Debra Winger was cute.

https://youtu.be/WiriW2qX-Vc

Yeah, yeah, it's dubbed in Spanish, but does that really matter?


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 19, 2018 08:09 PM (8iiMU)



Zounds, what...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:11 PM (SiINZ)

159

"Apocalypse Now"!

I love that mooooooooooooovie!



Posted by: Apocalypse Cow at May 19, 2018 08:11 PM (ZSkht)

160 But I love 'Pork Lips Now.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (oVJmc)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ciu-ZxxnVI

It is genius.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:12 PM (qJtVm)

161 The new version of "Fahrenheit 451" looks like they didn't quite get the tone and story right for today's audience.

But, I'll watch it anyway to see.

Obviously, today's Firemen are Google, Facebook, Twitter etc. who bury info and/or books with the click of a mouse.

They should be called "Grave Diggers".

Not so cinematic though.


The old version of F451 is available at, of all places, Walmart even as we speak.

Though slow, it's quite good in it's dystopian depiction of how grey and dead life become when you try to smother out all controversy and emotionally upsetting viewpoints.

Yep. once again, the Left had taken a dystopian novel as a blueprint.

Strong script. Great acting. Nice directing by Truffaut. Bonus! Young Julie Christie.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:12 PM (ZSkht)

162 "do you have internet there"

AOL dialup with a 300 baud acoustic modem.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:12 PM (UdKB7)

163 That Rolls is awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:12 PM (PUmDY)

164 Does that mean it's even longer than the original long long long version?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

Sorry Fathom Events.

It's listed as 1:50 running time.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 08:13 PM (J70i0)

165 Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:08 PM (UdKB7)

I just watched two of the movies about Bruce Lee (Dragon - The Bruce Lee Story - an older one - and Birth of the Dragon) and thought they were pretty good (though they each painted a different Bruce Lee).

Then I just watched some of the Ip Man movies (which I always read with an internet accent - I.P. Man ...) and thought they were fun. He was Bruce Lee's teacher, they say.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 08:13 PM (uSurQ)

166
Are you sure you are not Ann Althouse?

Posted by: NCC at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (c1ah2)


She should drop the banhammer on half her regular commenters, but the only time she does is when they attack her.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (vWLQZ)

167 You watch two movies a day? I can't even.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (Kr0FZ)

168 @110 --

Ever since the Priceline ads, I have the feeling that Shatner is one of the most satisfied people in the entertainment business.

Is he still making those? We cut cable three years ago.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (a4DII)

169 The longest version of AN is way too long. If you are going to keep the French plantation scenes in, you should cut the Playboy Bunny parts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (yQpMk)

170 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:12 PM (qJtVm)

o_O

where did you even come from

I was just wondering how you'd managed to miss a chess/dress thread.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:15 PM (y87Qq)

171 Conrad's novel has as its center feature the colonization of a civilization that's more primitive than the colonizers' homeland, and man's inhumanity to man. Civilizing brutes.

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I saw a "small" movie with a similar theme some time ago whose name I can't recall (although I think it had primitive or savage or some such in the title). I was about a middle to lower middle class student scholar studying a tribe of stone age people and their barbaric ways who is invited into the home of an upper class family. It contrasted the unsophisticated savagery of the stone age with the sophisticated, but just as savage, savagery of the upper class. Wish I could remember the name.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)

172 167 You watch two movies a day? I can't even.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (Kr0FZ)

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I worked from home this week and Dolley was out of town, so I had plenty of opportunity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:16 PM (Jj43a)

173 You CAN NOT cut the dancing cowgirl bunny scene. That would be like erasing a part of my history.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 08:17 PM (UdKB7)

174 Kurtz's madness wasn't madness, it was a rejection of all morality.
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I wonder if 'rejection' is the right word.

Do psychopaths and sociopaths willfully reject morality, or is it simply an unconscious absence of that? I mean, they might well be absent any ability to feel genuine (as opposed to feigned) empathy/sympathy

By way of example, we know that many high IQ (and possibly low IQ) people are wired differently than people in the middle of the curve. It seems possible that if they regard morality at all, it might be just as a curious trait of other people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 08:17 PM (QxXRY)

175 I loved Jacob's Ladder!! Underrated.


Yes! Though I still don't know for sure what is happening in the movie. Is it is a fever dream of man dying and trying to make sense of his own passing?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:17 PM (yQpMk)

176 The best theory I ever heard about Apocalypse Now was from John Nolte of
Breitbart. I don't know if its his theory or one he heard about.
Basically, Apocalypse Now is a retelling of Dante's Inferno.
Eh, for me not a strong correlation to Inferno.
But I do think it is instructive to remember the 8th circle of hell is for those guilty of Fraud. Panderers, liars and thieves. Hillary, Bill - I'm looking at you.
And the 9th circle is for betrayers and treachery. Obama, Brutus and most of our Senators.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 19, 2018 08:18 PM (9rIkM)

177 Yes! Though I still don't know for sure what is happening in the movie. Is it is a fever dream of man dying and trying to make sense of his own passing?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:17 PM (yQpMk)


It's all right here, everything you need to know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA4WrejvOHo

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:19 PM (y87Qq)

178 AOL dialup with a 300 baud acoustic modem.
Posted by: f'd
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That sounds like...I dunno...the 50's or something.

Posted by: A Millenial at May 19, 2018 08:20 PM (QxXRY)

179 "It seems possible that if they regard morality at all, it might be just as a curious trait of other people."

*** raises eyebrow ***

Posted by: Mr Spock at May 19, 2018 08:20 PM (UdKB7)

180 Full Metal Jacket (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "I've never quite understood the love for this movie. The first half is great, but the second half feels muddled."

++++

I'm going to quote you back at you (terribly unfair, I know).

"Another victim of 'not as good as the original' being equated with 'bad'."

Same thing, just applied to the two halves of the movie. Of course, the first half was exceptional. But, the second half was well done as well. The next phase of his life. Kind of a sequel to what happened in boot camp.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:20 PM (pvjTE)

181 where did you even come from

I was just wondering how you'd managed to miss a chess/dress thread.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:15 PM (y87Qq)
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I've been visiting Dear Mater in Michigan. Just got back an hour or so ago.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:21 PM (qJtVm)

182 Lol, oh it's Charles

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:22 PM (PUmDY)

183 Everybody remembers "The Horror, the Horror", from Heart of Darkness, but the line of the dying Kurtz that really resonates with me was "Exterminate the brutes!"

Posted by: Toad-O at May 19, 2018 08:22 PM (cct0t)

184 The best theory I ever heard about Apocalypse Now was from John Nolte of Breitbart. I don't know if its his theory or one he heard about. Basically, Apocalypse Now is a retelling of Dante's Inferno.

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I have a similar theory about the Obama administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:22 PM (+y/Ru)

185 Why's everyone talking about Debra Winger as Wonder Woman? What'd I miss?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:23 PM (pvjTE)

186 180 Same thing, just applied to the two halves of the movie. Of course, the first half was exceptional. But, the second half was well done as well. The next phase of his life. Kind of a sequel to what happened in boot camp.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:20 PM (pvjTE)

======

I really want to like that second half, but I can't help but feeling like either there's no point at all, or the point is way too obvious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:24 PM (Jj43a)

187
The Ugly American

Someone had to mention it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (w1zJX)

188 Debra Winger was Wonder Woman's little sister all growed up. And I mean GROWED.

Posted by: Mr Spock at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (UdKB7)

189 Apocalypse Now is a great film - the one that allowed my father to talk about Vietnam.

Posted by: rammajamma at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (xceTB)

190 Caught the last 2 minutes of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly as I was flipping through the channels earlier. Mama Mia, at'sa great ending!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (w+Jhj)

191 It contrasted the unsophisticated savagery of the stone age with the sophisticated, but just as savage, savagery of the upper class.--Anonosaurus Wrecks


that's where the 'inhumanity to man' comes in. the Heart of Darkness may refer to many things, such as 'darkest Africa,' or human capacity for evil. You may know me, by now; I see the Bible in most things. there's a scripture that says something like

the heart of man is exceedingly wicked. Who can know it? in Conrad's work, Kurtz, the civilized, the native's idea of a divine being, was capable of callously pronouncing their death sentence: exterminate the brutes.

and then Apocolypse Now turns that on its head. that's where it lost me. as far as making sense.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (uJ09Y)

192 I saw Apocalypse Now at a matinee back in the early 70s.

I still remember walking out into the daylight afterwards and feeling like I'd been mugged. I don't think I'll watch it again.

Posted by: girldog at May 19, 2018 08:25 PM (g5YYQ)

193 Uh, sorry. I am half human you know.

Posted by: Mr Spock at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (UdKB7)

194 TheJamesMadison'sPhone:

"The Thin Red Line is mine."

Wow. Not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested, because I hated that movie. No offense. I'm generally a war movie fan, and I was completely let down. Thought it was beyond boring when it wasn't completely fatuous. What made it your favorite?
Posted by: JPS at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (9ziuC)

========

I'll do a post on it in a few months.

But, short hand, I love Terrence Malick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (Jj43a)



Terrence Malick found his technique in his second(?) movie, "Days of Heaven", a brilliant movie IMHO and well matched to the Malick technique.

So, once Malick found his technique, he was damn well going to use it in every fucking movie he made. Whether it fit the story or not.

Most often it doesn't fit.

Think of it this way...if Terrence Malick had used performing ducks as the characters in "Days of Heaven".

"The Thin Red Line" would've been about the Great Pacific War of the Mallards.

He's basically a one trick pony.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (ZSkht)

195 I've been visiting Dear Mater in Michigan. Just got back an hour or so ago.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:21 PM (qJtVm)


Aw, nice. Lovely weather here right now. Fog and overcast is always calming.

We kept your side of the couch warm for you. There are some leftover tacos on the side table, you can pick off most of the cat hair.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (y87Qq)

196 I worry that Chelsea might not understand what I've tried to be. And if I
were to be killed, Ace, I would want someone to go to my home and
tell my Chelsea everything. Everything I did, everything you saw, because
there's nothing that I detest more than the stench of lies. And if you
understand me, Ace, you will do this for me.

Posted by: colonel hillary shartz at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (Evws/)

197 Asheville Robert - A good day to be on high ground, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (w1zJX)

198 If you think Paths of Glory is about abuse of power (and I do), just take a gander at Breaker Morant, one of my favorites.

Also, Lightening up 3-1.

I'll be in the barrel watching Svengoolie.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 08:27 PM (+Tibp)

199 BTW: No love for The Green Berets with John Wayne?

Posted by: Toad-O at May 19, 2018 08:27 PM (cct0t)

200 Oops meant to say early 80s. Typo

Posted by: girldog at May 19, 2018 08:28 PM (g5YYQ)

201 Same thing, just applied to the two halves of the movie. Of course, the first half was exceptional. But, the second half was well done as well. The next phase of his life. Kind of a sequel to what happened in boot camp.

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In my opinion, the second half informs the first half. They endure the first have so they have a reasonable chance of surviving the second half. Also, I think that it is very powerful when we find out that the commie monster who continues to shoot the wounded soldier in order to draw the others out is just a chick with an AK.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:28 PM (+y/Ru)

202 We kept your side of the couch warm for you. There are some leftover tacos on the side table, you can pick off most of the cat hair.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:26 PM (y87Qq)
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One of these days we really need to do a MichiMoMee.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:28 PM (qJtVm)

203 what's the best Brosnan Bond movie?
Goldeneye?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:29 PM (hMwEB)

204 "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." I saw it on the big screen, with a live Q&A with William Shatner afterwards. If you ever get a chance to see him live, do it. He is a great storyteller.
Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (ANIFC)

That sounds like a great time!

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2018 08:29 PM (XoAz8)

205 You all came back, Why?

I differentiate war and westerners into two groups, hmmm where does that put samurai movies?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (aC6Sd)

206 As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

Posted by: colonel hillary shartz at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (Evws/)

207
The Ugly American

Someone had to mention it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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I'll see your Ugly American, and raise you a Burmese Days.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (7Cr6v)

208 I really want to like that second half, but I can't help but feeling like either there's no point at all, or the point is way too obvious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:24 PM (Jj43a)


If you're going to apply that standard, then, what's the point of the first half? It seems like you want to just say that you like the first half better - which is fair, because everyone else does too. Does it matter why?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (y87Qq)

209 what's the best Brosnan Bond movie?
Goldeneye?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:29 PM (hMwEB)



D) None of the above

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (SiINZ)

210 I saw Apocalypse Now on like the second day after it had been released. This was back early in my somewhat misguided youth. Went with four peeps and we were extremely "baked" by the time we got there. I just remember it being three times as intense whilst...uh...in an altered state of consciousness. Me and my buds just kept looking at each other like "WTF? WTF?". Heh. Classic flick, no doubt.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 08:31 PM (Tyii7)

211 The longest version of AN is way too long. If you are going to keep the French plantation scenes in, you should cut the Playboy Bunny parts.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (yQpMk)

There is a slender grain of truth there, however. As late as 1972-3, the VC were still collecting "taxes" from the French owned (Michelin?) plantations for protection.

Hell, the French are probably still paying them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:31 PM (EoRCO)

212 One of these days we really need to do a MichiMoMee.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:28 PM (qJtVm)


Mikey NTH and I already grabbed lunch at Harrison Roadhouse a few weeks back.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:32 PM (y87Qq)

213 Where can a find a free place on line to watch movies.? Firestick took a crap.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 08:32 PM (a3OL0)

214 "Asheville Robert - A good day to be on high ground, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer"
I slept through most of it. The middle of the day turned out quite nice, then the thunderstorms came back.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (w+Jhj)

215 BTW: No love for The Green Berets with John Wayne?
Posted by: Toad-O

I hated all movies that showed Americans in a bad light as a kid. I love John Wayne and have a picture of him on my wall right now. I believe the Viet Nam War was moral.

But I can't stand this movie.

I'll be in the barrel.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (+Tibp)

216 D) None of the above
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (SiINZ)

So picky
That's the answer someone gave me when I asked about Moore's best Bond movie too

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (hMwEB)

217 There is a slender grain of truth there, however. As late as 1972-3, the VC were still collecting "taxes" from the French owned (Michelin?) plantations for protection.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:31 PM (EoRCO)


Not entirely unrelated, has anyone else seen R-Point?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

218 We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig... cow after cow... village after village... army after army... bottle after bottle...

Posted by: colonel hillary shartz at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (Evws/)

219 If you think Paths of Glory is about abuse of power (and I do), just take a gander at Breaker Morant, one of my favorites.

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In Paths of Glory, we all know that the accused are innocent. In Breaker Morant we don't know whether Breaker did what he was accused of let alone whether it was morally justified. Both are excellent movies.

Speaking of which, somebody ought to do a non-demoguic (is that a word?) movie about My Lai.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (+y/Ru)

220 208 If you're going to apply that standard, then, what's the point of the first half? It seems like you want to just say that you like the first half better - which is fair, because everyone else does too. Does it matter why?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:30 PM (y87Qq)

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So the point I read on the second half is the duality of man, as said by Private Joker.

If that's the case, then the second half feels unfocused and unconvincing. There's too much there that's going in random directions, especially the interview section.

Again, I'm open to it being a great movie that one just missed, but I need convincing first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (Jj43a)

221 He best Brosnan movies go along with Moore's best Bond movies

None.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (aC6Sd)

222 The Bond movie about the helicopter with the yoyo sawblade (stolen from Robert Moore in India thugee sawblade assassins). The yoyo sawblade was totally unbelievable, but movies have showed the helicopter main rotor blades chopping up stuff, too. I can tell you as a helicopter pilot that you DEFINITELY should not chop up shit with your rotors. Bad juju.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (zLDYs)

223 Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2018 07:54 PM (ANIFC)

Whatever that show is where Shatner, Winkler, Bradshaw and Foreman travel abroad is a hilarious show. Shatner is truly a funny guy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (4Hf9E)

224 I just watched Danton on TCM on demand. Very interesting. Done by a Polish director during the time of the Solidarity movement. Two characters, Danton and Robspierre fighting to move the French Revolution. Lots of talking and conniving going on. I could just see the Left on Left eating each other to be more revolutionary than the other. Some of the same language used now is pretty haunting.

Posted by: Winston at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (wgCUV)

225 as i think of apocalypse now i'm struck by how self-indulgent it is - not just copolla's overrun budget or the operatic histrionics (it's not really a war movie), but the nearly insulting moral self-indulgence that we're so important. the intellectual left elite specialized in that sort of thing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:35 PM (Pg+x7)

226 Although Paths of Glory and Sand Pebbles are both excellent anti-war pics (both IMHO better than AN), my favorite war flick has Jack Hawkings, Michael Caine and Stanley Baker: Zulu. Spectacular movie. I'm also partial to the old "small team behind enemy lines" movies. For an uplifting one, try Guns of Navarone. For a totally cynical one, it's hard to beat Play Dirty.

For the most charming of all anti-war pics, it's hard to beat The Americanization of Emily with Julie Andrews and the late great James Garner, who also managed to steal The Great Escape from the overblown Steve McQueen.

However, I've always had a soft spot for submarine pictures, especially Das Boot, Destination Tokyo, Run Silent Run Deep, The Hunt for Red October and Up Periscope (not to be confused with the very funny Down Periscope).

But I'm totally a sucker for airwar movies, with The Blue Max, The Battle of Britain and 633 Squadron topping the list.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 19, 2018 08:35 PM (KguO5)

227 Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (zLDYs)

What do you fly?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2018 08:36 PM (4Hf9E)

228 Mikey NTH and I already grabbed lunch at Harrison Roadhouse a few weeks back.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:32 PM (y87Qq)
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I have never been to Lansing. Is it the Vegas of Michigan?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:36 PM (qJtVm)

229 I love Breaker Morant as well, AW has it correct.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:37 PM (aC6Sd)

230 225 Get over yourself dude

Posted by: rammajamma at May 19, 2018 08:37 PM (xceTB)

231 I really want to like that second half, but I can't help but feeling like either there's no point at all, or the point is way too obvious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:24 PM (Jj43a)

++++

Louie CK does a bit about how you can't joke about rape. It's too awful. Then he turns it around and jokes about rape. And the audience laughs.

Kubrick wanted to do something similar. He wanted to make it the right thing to execute a little girl. Given the plot, it was the right thing to do.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:37 PM (pvjTE)

232 BTW: No love for The Green Berets with John Wayne?
Posted by: Toad-O at May 19, 2018 08:27 PM (cct0t)

I liked it. The assassination of the NVA General was a little hokey, but the fire base scenes and overrun were not far off base.

Plus Sulu going all Sat Cong is priceless.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:39 PM (EoRCO)

233 If Danton is on TCM on demand I want to see that tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:39 PM (aC6Sd)

234 231
Kubrick wanted to do something similar. He wanted to make it the right thing to execute a little girl. Given the plot, it was the right thing to do.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 08:37 PM (pvjTE)

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See, if that's the extent of it, then most of what the movie does doesn't really support that. There's too much else.

Plus, from what I know of Kubrick, I don't his intention was to say, "It's okay to kill girls sometimes." It was probably closer to, "War makes killers if us all."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:40 PM (Jj43a)

235 If that's the case, then the second half feels unfocused and unconvincing. There's too much there that's going in random directions, especially the interview section.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (Jj43a)


It just doesn't focus as well as the first half because boot camp is stripped of distraction by comparison.

Rafterman is Joker's new Pyle. He doesn't ask for him, but he gets stuck with him and has to be his big gumpy Virgil. At the end of the 2nd half, Pyle/Rafterman shoots again, again sparing/saving Joker. Notice that these are the only times Joker is actually faced with personal mortal peril in the whole story.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

236 for me, what elevates paths of glory is the last scene of the woman singing in the cafe - the most powerful epilogue in film.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (Pg+x7)

237 Danton will be on for another few days. It's a very good flick in my opinion. Humble as ever it is.

Posted by: Winston at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (wgCUV)

238 Vanishing Point is on TCM late tonight. I've never seen it but I know it has a cult following.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (+Tibp)

239 musical jolly chimp, you make a point I support; Apocalypse Now was trying to lump Vietnam in with the imperialism thing that the 60s revolutionaires were so against. That's it.

Where Conrad, i think, may have been discussing brutes like members of a certain gang currently in the news, when he said 'exterminate the brutes' Coppola was attempting to say we America wanted to conquer the Vietnamese, that we were imperialist, when I believe we were trying to keep it free from communism.

Right?

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (uJ09Y)

240 224 I just watched Danton on TCM on demand. Very interesting. Done by a Polish director during the time of the Solidarity movement. Two characters, Danton and Robspierre fighting to move the French Revolution. Lots of talking and conniving going on. I could just see the Left on Left eating each other to be more revolutionary than the other. Some of the same language used now is pretty haunting.
Posted by: Winston at May 19, 2018 08:34 PM (wgCUV)

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I added it to my queue because I remembered seeing snippets of it in high school on TV.

It's the movie I'm most looking forward to.

As I told my mother yesterday, I've seen Danton and any movie coming out this summer the same number of times, and I'm more excited about Danton. Is that wrong?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (Jj43a)

241 ... itt brings home the humanity of the soldiers and the tragedy of war - just gut-wrenching.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:42 PM (Pg+x7)

242 CrochetyOldJarhead @ 227- All recip, no turbines, back in the 70's. Mostly Hughes 269/300's (think TH55) and Bell 47's. Low and fast over cotton, the most blade-choppingest fun you can have with your clothes on.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 08:42 PM (zLDYs)

243 I agree the movie is visually stunning. But by the time it came along I was too cynical about Nam and the criminal way the vets were treated and portrayed in media. I could not stand it. I sat through the whole thing and wasn't the only one leaving who looked disgusted. I can't even imagine the reactions from the Vets if they watched it.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 08:42 PM (V+03K)

244 Battle of Britain has to be the absolute best non computer generated movie, they did in air war what no one even in the early 60's could do with ground war machines.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:42 PM (aC6Sd)

245 I have never been to Lansing. Is it the Vegas of Michigan?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2018 08:36 PM (qJtVm)


Not by any definition, no. Unless saying yes will get all the Michimorons to come here so I can just walk down the street to the meetup in which case... yes.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:43 PM (y87Qq)

246 235
It just doesn't focus as well as the first half because boot camp is stripped of distraction by comparison.

Rafterman is Joker's new Pyle. He doesn't ask for him, but he gets stuck with him and has to be his big gumpy Virgil. At the end of the 2nd half, Pyle/Rafterman shoots again, again sparing/saving Joker. Notice that these are the only times Joker is actually faced with personal mortal peril in the whole story.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

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That's an interesting way to look at it.

I'll have to consider that structural element the next time I watch it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:43 PM (Jj43a)

247 236 for me, what elevates paths of glory is the last scene of the woman singing in the cafe - the most powerful epilogue in film.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (Pg+x7)

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I've seen the movie a few times, and I was still almost in tears in that scene.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:44 PM (Jj43a)

248 I love Vanishing Point, probably seen it a half dozen times since being a teenager.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:44 PM (aC6Sd)

249 Not entirely unrelated, has anyone else seen R-Point?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

No.....I will check it out though, thanks!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:45 PM (EoRCO)

250 Abuse of power? I'm reminded of 'The Hill'. Sean Connery, et al.

Trailer - http://tinyurl.com/y7w78bx2

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 08:45 PM (y3sT9)

251 Deadpool 2 was a bit of a disappointment.

I concur. I'd add that it also ripped the plot from 'Looper'.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 08:46 PM (6FqZa)

252 218
We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig... cow after
cow... village after village... army after army... bottle after
bottle...


Posted by: colonel hillary shartz at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (Evws/)

I'm workin' on it!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 08:46 PM (aljs9)

253 wow, Vanishing Point has Delaney and Bonnie in it. cool beans

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 08:46 PM (uJ09Y)

254 Come to Boulder! It's the most moron-friendly city in Colorado!!1

Oh wait, I meant, the most idiotic

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (6FqZa)

255 Going lights out in 4 minutes

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (aC6Sd)

256 I'd be interested in anyone else's take on Danton. I'm usually not a movie guy but this one caught my attention since the French Revolution went so bad so quickly for them.
It's in French but the subtitles are well done and, at least for me, since my French sucks, not very intrusive.

Posted by: Winston at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (wgCUV)

257 Coppola was attempting to say we America wanted to conquer the Vietnamese, that we were imperialist, when I believe we were trying to keep it free from communism.

Right?
Posted by: booknlass

I personally think LBJ escalated Vietnam to appear to be a Red fighter while implementing Commie Lite domestic policies. He wasn't fighting to win, just a cynical ploy for power.

Posted by: zombie Vince Foster at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sBHZx)

258 12
I'm a whipper snapper. But had a neighbor who was an Army Vietnam
veteran. Anyway, we used to get together and watch movies on the
weekends. One time we watched "Apocolypse Now" (on VHS). After it was
over, he said to me "That's exactly what it was like".


Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (sXefu)
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My dad was there in 67 and he absolutely HATED Apocalypse now. Said the exact opposite of your neighbor.

Posted by: elliot at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (D+Jl9)

259 242>> The 269 is a sporty little recip. I've flown it a few times, but only in the pattern for post maintenance checks. You couldn't pay me enough to spray bugs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2018 08:48 PM (4Hf9E)

260 I love Vanishing Point, probably seen it a half dozen times since being a teenager.

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It was filmed around my home town back in the days when I was a stinking hippy. Some of the stinking hippy I hung with were extras in the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:49 PM (+y/Ru)

261 Abuse of power? I'm reminded of 'The Hill'. Sean Connery, et al.
Trailer - http://tinyurl.com/y7w78bx2
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 08:45 PM (y3sT9)

Great film....especially when Ossie Davis "quits" the Army.

"What? I suppose you want me to wear a top hat and stick a bone through me nose?".....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:49 PM (EoRCO)

262 253 wow, Vanishing Point has Delaney and Bonnie in it. cool beans
Posted by: booknlass



I saw Bonnie Bramlett's kid (Bekka) when she was singing with Fleetwood Mac in the mid 90s. They were touring for there 'Time' album. She was quite cute and a damn good singer. I think she was temporarily taking Stevie Nicks spot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 08:50 PM (pY+s4)

263 So picky
That's the answer someone gave me when I asked about Moore's best Bond movie too

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:33 PM (hMwEB)


Roger had some good ones, Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Octopussy.
Brosnan could have been a good Bond, but the stories were a waste of time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:50 PM (SiINZ)

264 Back when SNL was funny, Martin Sheen did an A.N. cold open.

I can't seem to find it on video, just the transcript

Josh, every man has his breaking point -- Coppola's reached his. His ideas and methods are... well, they're unsound. He's out there on location, operating without ANY human restraint. Your job is to go to the Phillippines, find Coppola, and TERMINATE production of this film.


http://bit.ly/2IRHNmW

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:50 PM (yQpMk)

265 Abuse of power? I'm reminded of 'The Hill'. Sean Connery, et al.

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That's a lean and powerful movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:51 PM (+y/Ru)

266 About once a year, TCM will run a Japanese movie called The Grass Harp. It was filmed not long after the end of the war and the vibe I get is that it is not so much an anti-war movie, but tells its Japanese audience that they should welcome back and respect the soldiers that suffered in the war.

There's a scene where the Jap POWs and British guards sing (in their own languages) Be it Ever So Humble There's No Place Like Home, which I always thought was a hopelessly sentimental joke, but actually chokes me up a bit in the film.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 08:51 PM (+Tibp)

267 /off suspicious Arkanside sock

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 08:51 PM (sBHZx)

268 I think you're reading too much into the meaning of Apocalypse Now. Coppola was trying to merge Heart of Darkness, a commentary on the morality of war and the men that fight it, and his own visions of internal conflict in the soul. But, he didn't really have a complete script. He was running out of time and money in the Philippines and he threw together the end, with ad libbed dialogue by the actors, especially Dennis Hopper. The fact that it worked is a testament to how important the editing process is. But, I agree, it is one of the all-time greats.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (9BLnV)

269 Back when SNL was funny, Martin Sheen did an A.N. cold open.


IIRC, it was a running theme through the whole show...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (oVJmc)

270 Every time I am laying under the ceiling fan in the summer I steal the line.

I asked for a mission, and for my sins they gave me one.



Good night all.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (aC6Sd)

271 So, no love for Lolita?

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (0s3bJ)

272 264 Back when SNL was funny, Martin Sheen did an A.N. cold open.

I can't seem to find it on video, just the transcript

Josh, every man has his breaking point -- Coppola's reached his. His ideas and methods are... well, they're unsound. He's out there on location, operating without ANY human restraint. Your job is to go to the Phillippines, find Coppola, and TERMINATE production of this film.


http://bit.ly/2IRHNmW

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 08:50 PM (yQpMk)

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Reminds me of an Animaniacs episode that did essentially the same thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (Jj43a)

273 Come to Boulder! It's the most moron-friendly city in Colorado!!1

Oh wait, I meant, the most idiotic

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Didn't you peace and live monkeys just ban all firearms?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 08:53 PM (+y/Ru)

274 Conrad's story is about Kurtz, an isolated man who who goes mad in the jungle. It takes place in the colonial Belgian Congo.

I didn't serve in Vietnam, so I can't address the authenticity of
the film, but I have been in the jungles of Zaire (the Congo). The movie
does capture the atmosphere of oppressive isolation one feels after a
few weeks. I liked the movie, but don't really care to watch it very
often.
Posted by: Raven One at May 19, 2018 08:06 PM (qSnW


Belgium's Congo was administered like a Haitian slave plantation, and this was official policy. (ammunition was issued to colonial troops, and if it were fired, the soldier had to prove it was for reason: they were required to bring in the hand of the native they shot, which were cured over a smoky fire for transport.)

The Kurtz character was not driven mad by the jungle, he made a moral decision. He could be human and listen to the morals and rules of civilized society, or he could do his job which was following the dictates of his civilized and cultured society in the only manner that was open to him, given the time, place and demands put on him.

This was the whole point of Col. Kurtz in AN: He had a job he was told was essential, and then had to choose to be fenced in by the rules that kept him from being effective in the face of brutality, or he could become a monster without boundaries and without limits.

Add to this that he would be called a monster either way, and he expressed as much, as did willard.

Isn't this also the subtext for HAL as well?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 08:53 PM (2K6fY)

275 271 So, no love for Lolita?
Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (0s3bJ)

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Did that blurb last week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:53 PM (Jj43a)

276 257 Commie Lite domestic policies. not only LBJ though.

if my history studies are accurate those policies originated in Johnson's Congress, as well.

war waged by Congress instead of Generals.

commie lite is a good name for it.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 08:53 PM (uJ09Y)

277 Anonosaurus Wrecks: the city council did. I was out this afternoon at a 2A rally in Longmont.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 08:54 PM (6FqZa)

278 For what its worth, he said Hamburger Hill was the most realistic, and he liked the scene in We Were Soldiers where you first see Sgt Plumley. He (my dad) said he was a young Sgt in the 101st and there were senior NCOs like Plumley who had multiple stars on their jump wings from WWII and Korea. They were intimidating as hell to the young paratroopers.

Posted by: elliot at May 19, 2018 08:54 PM (D+Jl9)

279 So, no love for Lolita?

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (0s3bJ)



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Did that blurb last week.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:53
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Ah, I see. I was vacationing in the Great White North at the time.

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:55 PM (0s3bJ)

280 I personally think LBJ escalated Vietnam to appear to be a Red fighter while implementing Commie Lite domestic policies. He wasn't fighting to win, just a cynical ploy for power.

Posted by: zombie Vince Foster at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sBHZx)



LBJ is in the running for the worst and most destructive to the country president we've ever had. It's a pity the bastard has so much competition for that title

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:55 PM (SiINZ)

281 The Comedy of Terrors just came on channel 3. Comet. All the greats Price, Lorre, Rathbone, Karloff.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 08:56 PM (aljs9)

282 And some chick with BOOBIES!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 08:57 PM (aljs9)

283 279 Ah, I see. I was vacationing in the Great White North at the time.
Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:55 PM (0s3bJ)

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I know some people love Lolita, but I merely like it. It's good, not great in my mind.

Felt more like a reaction to what he had to contend with in Spartacus than a work of art on its own.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:58 PM (Jj43a)

284 So, no love for Lolita?

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 08:52 PM (0s3bJ)



Yes, but not until she's of age

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:58 PM (SiINZ)

285 I must have been pretty shallow in my misguided youth. I took AN for what it was - a movie. It certainly didn't change my views on Vietnam, nor my unwavering support for those who served. I guess I've never let fantasy influence my reality. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 08:58 PM (Tyii7)

286 I didn't know Brando was supposed to show up lean and mean. I just always took it as his madness is so acute and has reached its final stages that he's physically deteriorated because of it.

I've seen the longer version of the film and liked it, but the cuts they made definitely helped the movie. The plantation scene, while interesting, does bog things down a bit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2018 08:59 PM (4ErVI)

287 Well, C-O-J, bugs just need killing sometimes. If we didn't kill them they'd eat all the cotton (no levi's) and soybeans (no starbucks). Wait a damn minute, I don't use either of those things so why should I care? Anyway, killed my last bugs over 40 years ago.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 08:59 PM (zLDYs)

288 what kind of car is the guy driving in Vanishing point? it looks like a Torino

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 09:00 PM (uJ09Y)

289 Anyway, killed my last bugs over 40 years ago.
Posted by: Eromero

He's done his part to end the bug menace.
Have you?

Posted by: Alex Trebec at May 19, 2018 09:01 PM (sBHZx)

290 He's done his part to end the bug menace.
Have you?
Posted by: Alex Trebec at May 19, 2018 09:01 PM (sBHZx)


*desire to know more intensifies*

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq)

291 My dad was there in 67 and he absolutely HATED Apocalypse now. Said the exact opposite of your neighbor.


Posted by: elliot at May 19, 2018 08:47 PM (D+Jl9)


He was a cool guy, but a little kooky. He had this hippie girlfriend that ran off with another guy. The last he heard she was in LA, so he packed up all her stuff, wrote her name and the address of the Los Angeles city hall on the box, and mailed it.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 09:04 PM (sXefu)

292 If that's the case, then the second half feels unfocused and unconvincing.

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I suspect that a part of the reason the second half feels unfocused is that Kubrick was attempting to avoid the trap that some great Frog director (Truffaut?) warned about. He (whoever the hell he was) said it was impossible to make an anti-war movie because if you show the horror you cannot avoid showing the grandeur. Like The Ride of the Valkyries scene in Apocalypse Now. Sign me up! I wanna ride in on helicopters and blow shit up!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 09:04 PM (+y/Ru)

293 I heard an interesting movie-related factoid today. I had a conversation today with a guy who once interviewed John? Gresham, who was the son of C.S. Lewis's wife Joy.
According to Gresham Debra Winger, who played Joy in the movie Shadowlands, was the spitting image of his mother,.
There was a time I quite liked Winger. IIRC she had a little scar on her cheek that drew my eye.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 19, 2018 09:04 PM (eAMlh)

294 He's done his part to end the bug menace.
Have you?
Posted by: Alex Trebec

Do you want to know more?

Posted by: Johnny Rico at May 19, 2018 09:06 PM (+Tibp)

295
I know some people love Lolita, but I merely like it. It's good, not great in my mind.

I went through a Nabokov phase.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 19, 2018 09:06 PM (eAMlh)

296 273 Come to Boulder! It's the most moron-friendly city in Colorado!!1

Oh wait, I meant, the most idiotic

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Didn't you peace and live monkeys just ban all firearms?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler



To be fair, I don't want live monkeys using firearms either. Did you not see the Planet of the Apes? Dead monkeys are not a threat. Well disease but otherwise....

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 09:06 PM (pY+s4)

297 If you gave an infinite number of hand guns to an infinite number of monkeys would there eventually be only one monkey left?

Posted by: Mr Spock at May 19, 2018 09:08 PM (UdKB7)

298 Come to Boulder! It's the most moron-friendly city in Colorado!!1

Oh wait, I meant, the most idiotic

I was in Golden last weekend for my son's graduation. I got a little wistful since I don't know that I'll ever visit it again. I really got to know it over the last four years.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 19, 2018 09:08 PM (+Tibp)

299
To be fair, I don't want live monkeys using firearms either. Did you not see the Planet of the Apes? Dead monkeys are not a threat. Well disease but otherwise....
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 09:06 PM (pY+s4)

Dorothy would never have made it back to Kansas if the flying monkeys had firearms.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 19, 2018 09:08 PM (eAMlh)

300 I went through a Nabokov phase.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 19, 2018 09:06 PM (eAMlh)


Too old.

Posted by: Harry Reid at May 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sXefu)

301 I suspect that a part of the reason the second half feels unfocused is that Kubrick was attempting to avoid the trap that some great Frog director (Truffaut?) warned about. He (whoever the hell he was) said it was impossible to make an anti-war movie because if you show the horror you cannot avoid showing the grandeur. Like The Ride of the Valkyries scene in Apocalypse Now. Sign me up! I wanna ride in on helicopters and blow shit up!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sBHZx)

302
32 Apocalypse Now I have seen in fragments but have never evinced any strong desire to actually see the whole movie because it's not really about what happened and more about the time frame it was released. Movies from that era like The Deer Hunter had already colored the cynical prism I view movies about Viet Nam. Just as I can't remember a single scene from Platoon except the F-5s dropping nape and wondering if the pilots could take out the film crew also.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 07:24 PM (MMrzc)

Thank you Anna. Well said. AN also contributed a lot to the perception that all Vietnam vets were kill-crazy and should be shunned.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2018 09:11 PM (qj1RH)

303 Ah, I see. I was vacationing in the Great White North at the time.
Posted by: shibumi

Oh really?

Take off, you hoser!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2018 09:12 PM (S6Pax)

304 I know some people love Lolita, but I merely like it. It's good, not great in my mind.



Felt more like a reaction to what he had to contend with in Spartacus than a work of art on its own.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:58 PM
--

I thought it was an interesting character study of both Humbert and Lolita.

By the end, I did feel sympathy for him, although, in reality, he was a pedophile. I do think that Kubrick downplayed the age thing-- IIRC, Lolita was younger in the book, but made to look older in the movie.

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 09:13 PM (0s3bJ)

305 Like The Ride of the Valkyries scene in Apocalypse Now. Sign me up! I wanna ride in on helicopters and blow shit up!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler



Yup, now I have to go watch that scene again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:13 PM (SiINZ)

306 I think Apocalypse Now Is a great film. I basically agree with TJM's take. As far as it being a "realistic portrayal" of Vietnam, you will never get agreement from people on that. There were many "Vietnams". For example, the experiences, and more importantly the memories of career military early in the war vs draftees later in the war are not going to be the same.

If one guy says in his Vietnam no one smoked pot and all were into the mission, he is accurate. When another guy says everyone one smoked pot and and they were at each other's throats, well, ok,

I consider Apocalypse Now to be an allegory, a story that happened to be set in Vietnam. But Coppola famously said otherwise, he said his story "WAS Vietnam". Then again, how would he know?
Anyway, it is a good flick. And no doubt the source material from Conrad played a big part in that. Just read it and you will see.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:13 PM (n13/j)

307 Uh oh. They've figured us out.

Matt Walton
@themattwalton
You know what benefits from school shootings?

The home school movement.

You know what benefits from the home school movement?

Ignorance.

You know what benefits from ignorance?#Republicanism.

You know what benefits from Republicanism?

The #NRA.

See it now?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 09:14 PM (+y/Ru)

308 "war is senseless"
War makes perfect sense to F'n Communists. In fact, nothing else makes sense, except war.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 09:16 PM (RuIsu)

309 274 kindtot:

maybe that's my problem with a.n. - to conflate the brutality of war, even vietnam at its worst, with the horrors of the belgian occupation of congo - where slaughter and slavery were policyes - is wrong.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (Pg+x7)

310 I know some people love Lolita, but I merely like it. It's good, not great in my mind.

Felt more like a reaction to what he had to contend with in Spartacus than a work of art on its own.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 08:58 PM (Jj43a)

++++

I had a discussion with a middle-aged woman who hated that movie. She didn't care for Kubrick at all. Thought he had a bias against middle-aged women. She pointed to the bobble-headed knick knack behind Shelly Winters as she was first showing James Mason her home. She said it demonstrated that Kubrick thought that all middle-aged women, not just that one character but all of them, were silly.

I think sometimes people over-interpret movies.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (pvjTE)

311 Someone may have already said this, but-

The reason "Full Metal Jacket" works as a whole is that-

The First Part shows what it takes to convert American teens into "killers" to fight in Vietnam

The Second Part functions as a demonstration why Americans will lose in Vietnam. Their greatest adversary in the movie is a young woman. Nobody had to convert her into a killer to fight for her homeland.

That's the meaning of the "Mickey Mouse" song at the end. In the end, these are just American kids. Unserious American kids.


Yeah, it's Anti-war and Anti-American but what else is new.

Still, a great movie to watch.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (9q7Dl)

312 My Dad died three years ago on my birthday. It was hard. Mom met a guy from her childhood that seemed pretty cool. The other day he asked her if we really knew what the NRA was about. My brothers and I are Benefactor members. I don't think I am looking at a wedding for them. I hope she finds someone that works.

Posted by: Nobody in particular at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (PU2XV)

313 Are we having dessert tonight?

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (NY0r1)

314 Ooh, movie thread.

I saw "The Commuter" with Liam Neeson on PPV last week. Really good flick, and not at all "Taken on a train" like the trailers made it look like. It's much more suspense/thriller with a little bit of mystery than it action (although there is some), and it suits him better at his age.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (gm9yG)

315 They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

As anti-war as "The Americanization of Emily" was (and it was very funny), even in the end, James Garner couldn't bring himself to totally denounce what had happened, because then he would have made himself into the martyr figure he so seriously detested.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (S6Pax)

316 310 ++++

I had a discussion with a middle-aged woman who hated that movie. She didn't care for Kubrick at all. Thought he had a bias against middle-aged women. She pointed to the bobble-headed knick knack behind Shelly Winters as she was first showing James Mason her home. She said it demonstrated that Kubrick thought that all middle-aged women, not just that one character but all of them, were silly.

I think sometimes people over-interpret movies.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (pvjTE)

=====

Over interpret movies?!?!?

The horror! The horror!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (Jj43a)

317 Crack out that second disc. It makes the original original seem like just another war Movie.

Posted by: Nato at May 19, 2018 09:19 PM (A9iyd)

318 Run Charlie!

There's R Lee Ermy.

Should have put Col Kilgore in charge of the war. He would have had it won in months

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:19 PM (SiINZ)

319 Madness. All is madness.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 09:20 PM (iTpm7)

320 317 Crack out that second disc. It makes the original original seem like just another war Movie.
Posted by: Nato at May 19, 2018 09:19 PM (A9iyd)

=======

I may end up doing it soon.

But having just gone through every Kubrick, I think I need to lighten up for a bit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 09:20 PM (Jj43a)

321 Madness. All is madness.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 09:20 PM (iTpm7)



Unless you get Far From the Maddening Crowd

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:21 PM (SiINZ)

322 There was a time I quite liked Winger. IIRC she had a little scar on her cheek that drew my eye.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 19, 2018 09:04 PM (eAMlh)

++++

She was really something in The Sheltering Sky.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:21 PM (pvjTE)

323 I think sometimes people over-interpret movies.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (pvjTE)


You're telling me.

Posted by: George Lucas at May 19, 2018 09:21 PM (sXefu)

324 Should have put Col Kilgore in charge of the war. He would have had it won in months
Posted by: TheQuietMan

The great tragedy of the Viet Nam war was that it was never fought to be won. Lyndon's war of Great Society Economic Stimulus. All the brutality, violence and killing was just senseless. All those things are terrible, but if there is a point to them, and a better end can be made, then it at least makes something for the Vets to justify in their own minds that it wasn't all for nothing.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2018 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

325 " Deadpool 2 was a bit of a disappointment. The movies ends about 30 minutes before the end, but it just keeps ending and ending and ending. Endlessly."

All's well that ends. at the right time.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2018 09:22 PM (ii30j)

326
Another movie that didn't need a director's cut was Cinema Paradiso. Great movie on initial release the scenes that were cut needed to stay out

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:23 PM (SiINZ)

327 Great movie -- one of those that I can enjoy watching multiple times.

Posted by: ShainS at May 19, 2018 09:23 PM (BiLU+)

328 Like The Ride of the Valkyries scene in Apocalypse Now. Sign me up! I wanna ride in on helicopters and blow shit up!



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

That is why Hollywood today leaves no wiggle room, they beat you over the head with who the bad guy is, so you can't get it wrong. I think Oliver Stone was not happy that some people thought Platoon was cool. Certainly the movie was made as an attack on American soldiers imho. I mean, come on, every war atrocity possible in a ten year war with 2.7 million serving piled onto one platoon over a couple weeks?
Stone was pissed when his attack on capitalism movie, Wall Street, seemed to backfire. Quite a few kids wanted to become stock brokers after watching that movie. And many more loved to quite Gordon Gekko. lol

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:23 PM (n13/j)

329 Isn't it rather creepy that Lolita is a celebrated book and movie (s)?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:24 PM (hMwEB)

330 By the end, I did feel sympathy for him, although, in reality, he was a pedophile. I do think that Kubrick downplayed the age thing-- IIRC, Lolita was younger in the book, but made to look older in the movie.

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 09:13 PM (0s3bJ)

++++

I think making the girl older was a studio thing. They never would have allowed him to make that movie with someone who was, and looked, younger.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:24 PM (pvjTE)

331 Joan Blondell and Shelly Winters took the glass ceiling, broke it into pieces, ate it and asked for seconds.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 09:25 PM (NY0r1)

332 Stone was pissed when his attack on capitalism movie, Wall Street, seemed to backfire. Quite a few kids wanted to become stock brokers after watching that movie. And many more loved to quite Gordon Gekko. lol
Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:23 PM (n13/j)

Gekko's phone on the beach was startling for the time.

Like, wow.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 09:25 PM (EoRCO)

333 BERwyn!?

Posted by: Kerwyn at May 19, 2018 09:25 PM (+Tibp)

334 314 Commuter was ok, kinda Agatha Christir-ish.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:25 PM (hMwEB)

335 Isn't it rather creepy that Lolita is a celebrated book and movie (s)?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:24 PM (hMwEB)


Not sure I'm seeing the problem.

Posted by: John Podesta at May 19, 2018 09:26 PM (sXefu)

336 329 Isn't it rather creepy that Lolita is a celebrated book and movie (s)?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:24 PM (hMwEB)

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I guess it depends on how you think the movie/book feels about pedophilia.

Never read the book, but I think the movie views the man as a twisted man, who deserves to be broken.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 09:26 PM (Jj43a)

337 Kurtz is not a big fat fuck. He's just a chubby murderous bastard. You don't need to be ripped to murder third world tyrannical Cambodians.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 09:27 PM (J7XgW)

338 All those things are terrible, but if there is a point to them, and a better end can be made, then it at least makes something for the Vets to justify in their own minds that it wasn't all for nothing.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America

The sad thing is: that same angst that it was all for nothing is being experience by the British WW2 generation. Their was a poll a while back asking the remaining people who lived through the war (either as vets or civilians) if the hardships and loss of the war was worth it given the state of Britain today. Something like 90% said no.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:27 PM (sBHZx)

339 They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sBHZx)

Peter O'Toole made this quote in the movie The Stunt Man:

I know a man who made an anti-war movie... a good one. When it was shown in his home town, army enlistment went up six hundred percent.

War movies always have that effect. Some people see them and think, "My God, war is horrible!" Others see war movies and go, "Shooting people and blowing up shit looks like fun!" The dichotomy of man thing.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 19, 2018 09:27 PM (9BLnV)

340 Creepy in the sense that we know now that Hollywood is full of pedos, and so did they pick the book coz the topic is titillating to them?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:28 PM (hMwEB)

341
If they had just let the Germans take over it would have saved a lot of trouble and fuss over royal weddings.

Posted by: Mr Spock at May 19, 2018 09:30 PM (UdKB7)

342 The Hill is a fantastic movie.

As is Zulu.

Don't forget A Man Who Would Be King.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2018 09:30 PM (+BKF+)

343 Margot Kidder passed away this week.

I always liked her. What a sad story her life ended up being.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2018 09:32 PM (+BKF+)

344 Guns won't stop it!
Rockets won't stop it!
Run to the shelter!

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 09:33 PM (UdKB7)

345 If they had just let the Germans take over it would have saved a lot of trouble and fuss over royal weddings.
Posted by: Mr Spock

I think their rationale goes: a nazi conquered Europe would look a lot like the modern EU, except there wouldn't be gangs of Pakis running around raping white children.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:33 PM (sBHZx)

346 I think their rationale goes: a nazi conquered
Europe would look a lot like the modern EU, except there wouldn't be
gangs of Pakis running around raping white children.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:33 PM (sBHZx)


So I one upped it?

Posted by: Angela Merkel at May 19, 2018 09:35 PM (sXefu)

347
Never read the book, but I think the movie views the man as a twisted man, who deserves to be broken.
--

I found Humbert to be a very flawed, pathetic character, who seemed to be manipulated by Lolita. Even in the end, he was still lusting after her when she was a dumpy sort of housewife, and she was still taking advantage of him.

However.. he wanted to do those things for her, so really, is she at fault for taking what is offered?

I'm conflicted about it, since it is a movie about pedophilia. That being said, Kubrick-- and maybe Nabokov-- seemed to make Lolita the one in charge of the relationship, which tends to echo the claim of many pedophiles; "She seduced me."

Which I don't really think happens IRL.

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 09:35 PM (0s3bJ)

348 Saw a funny comment on the wedding -
note that 90 year old Queen can navigate stairs a lot easier than Hillary

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 09:36 PM (hMwEB)

349 They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to
make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all
they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable



As anti-war as "The Americanization of Emily" was (and it was very
funny), even in the end, James Garner couldn't bring himself to totally
denounce what had happened, because then he would have made himself
into the martyr figure he so seriously detested.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2018 09:18 PM (S6Pax)

It was the 70's, we took what we could get . No one was going to make a pro America/pro military movie. The Green Berets yes, but I am talking the later, post war 70's.
I still like the tv show MASH because it was part of my childhood and on all the time before other shows were on all the time lol. But every time I watch that show I am amazed how mainstream they made anti-Americanism and anti-military thought. Sure, it was a creature of it's time, and not about Korea but Vietnam. Still, a beloved sitcom that was anti-military 99 percent of the time. I don't think that would fly today. It certainly would be more controversial.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:36 PM (n13/j)

350 "a nazi conquered Europe would look a lot like the modern EU, except there wouldn't be gangs of Pakis running around raping white children"

Yea right. No Jews either. Idiots.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 09:37 PM (UdKB7)

351 I saw a "small" movie with a similar theme some time ago whose name I can't recall (although I think it had primitive or savage or some such in the title). I was about a middle to lower middle class student scholar studying a tribe of stone age people and their barbaric ways who is invited into the home of an upper class family. It contrasted the unsophisticated savagery of the stone age with the sophisticated, but just as savage, savagery of the upper class. Wish I could remember the name.

-
The title is Fierce People.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 09:39 PM (+y/Ru)

352 ONT up

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 19, 2018 09:39 PM (mMeIQ)

353 maybe that's my problem with a.n. - to conflate the
brutality of war, even vietnam at its worst, with the horrors of the
belgian occupation of congo - where slaughter and slavery were policyes -
is wrong.


Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 09:17 PM (Pg+x7)


I don't believe it was a movie about the horrors of war. At least not in effect. I think it is a discussion of how to push back against horror. In the 80's there was a lot of talk about how we walked away sickened by what was going on.

So the question is how do you deal with a regime that is willing to perpetrate horrors to achieve political goals.
A terror war is a war that is fought through perpetrating acts to terrorize your opponents to the point that their fear of further action on your part outweighs the consequences of their defeat.

Kurtz' method was one solution, kill them, drive them before them and turn the tables on them. Create horrors in response. This was ultimately a moral decision.

Not a decision that was moral, mind you, but a decision about the morality of what action to take.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 09:39 PM (2K6fY)

354 I'm conflicted about it, since it is a movie about pedophilia. That being said, Kubrick-- and maybe Nabokov-- seemed to make Lolita the one in charge of the relationship, which tends to echo the claim of many pedophiles; "She seduced me."

Which I don't really think happens IRL.

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2018 09:35 PM (0s3bJ)

++++

You know there are young girls who rob, right? Who murder, who tell false tales of abuse. Why is it so hard to believe that there are those who would use sex to get what they want?

That doesn't mean that's the story all the time, or most the time, or even lots of the time. Just that it can happen on occasion.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (pvjTE)

355 Yea right. No Jews either. Idiots.
Posted by: f'd

A) You can't really expect elderly Brits watching the recent news to think of that.
B) Give the muslim gangs a few more years and there won't be any.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (sBHZx)

356 Just not fan of Apocalypse Now. In my mind it continues the BS misinterpretation of the VN war.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (0tfLf)

357 Another movie that didn't need a director's cut was
Cinema Paradiso. Great movie on initial release the scenes that were cut
needed to stay out

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:23 PM (SiINZ)

I am not a sophisticated movie reviewer by any means. But most of the time when I see "deleted scenes" it is pretty clear why they were deleted.
Also, Mediterraneo was a good anti-war flick.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:41 PM (n13/j)

358 307: Sure Matt. Go with that. Its an Election WINNER!!

{giggle}

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 09:44 PM (pY+s4)

359 This is interesting, from a 2004 online article at The Guardian:
"... what is less well known is that [Harvey] Keitel was not the first or even second
choice to play Willard. Coppola offered the part first to Steve McQueen,
who did not want to leave the country at that time, then to Al Pacino.
Pacino could not stand 17 weeks of filming in the jungle, as he had been
extremely ill in the Dominican Republic while filming Godfather II, so
Coppola offered Willard's role to James Caan and then to Jack Nicholson,
who both declined. He finally gave it to Harvey Keitel, only to fire
him six weeks into production. Sheen eventually picked up the baton."
Also, from a 2009 Daily Mail online article:
"In the opening scenes, Willard has a violent mental breakdown brought
on by heavy drinking. Sheen played it with all the stunning realism of a
man who was himself out of his head on booze after a 24-hour birthday
bender.

He could hardly stand up and when, for the film, he smashed a
mirror with his fist, he was so drunk he didn't realise his hand was
badly cut and streaming blood. Those on the set with him were on
tenterhooks, scared that he was going to take a swing at the director
and the camera crew.

Shortly afterwards, Sheen collapsed with a heart attack, though
he was just 36 years old, and was found crawling along a road looking
for help. The jungle heat may have had something to do with his
condition, but his drinking and the fact that he was woefully out of
shape for such a demanding role can't have helped."

Posted by: ShainS at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (BiLU+)

360 Unless you get Far From the Maddening Crowd

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:21 PM (SiINZ)

That's the plan!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 09:45 PM (iTpm7)

361 Just not fan of Apocalypse Now. In my mind it continues the BS misinterpretation of the VN war.



Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:40 PM (0tfLf)

That is a whole other issue, and a big one. Too many people see a movie and that is the extent of their historical knowledge of the subject. I have met people that thought the movie JFK was the definitive documentary. To others, Gone With the Wind "WAS" the Civil War.

Posted by: Quint at May 19, 2018 09:46 PM (n13/j)

362 Love da movie thread!
My tuppence:

sub movies
Das Boot hands down best. Closest you'll get without actually dogging down hatches, imo.

Red October a close second.

I know my fellow bubbleheads will disagree, but I get a kick out of Hostile Waters. "Get me UP!!" Martin Sheen being a dick is just gravy.

Worst ever: Crimson Tide. Totally cluelesd.

On the ground: original MASH, Kelly's Heroes, Guns of Navarrone, Where Eagles Dare, Catch 22, Dirty Dozen, Silent Night (my wwii vet dad loved that one), and I'm boring myself now.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 19, 2018 09:46 PM (Dt8rf)

363 They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to
make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all
they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sBHZx)this was the intent/result in A Few Good Men, too. Nicholson's character was supposed to represent the vile military mindset, but the audience loved him (or at least his speech). Aaron Sorkin wrote it, and he is a full blown Lefty.

Posted by: elliot at May 19, 2018 09:47 PM (D+Jl9)

364 Matt @307

Right....sarc.

I have sat on a board for a local Representative to interview and screen applicants for the Military Academies. Over the last 5 years the home school applicants have kicked ass over their public school counterparts. Public schools are failing.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:48 PM (0tfLf)

365 nood ont

but talking movies is still fun

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 09:49 PM (EzdLW)

366 54 Couple of Vietnam films I liked:
The Boys In Company C
We Were Soldiers
Bat*21
Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:31 PM (EzdLW)


84C Mopic is a good one.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 19, 2018 09:50 PM (di1hb)

367 "They did the same thing with Patton. They tried to make an anti-war film painting Patton as a warmongering psycho, but all they did was make people say "That guy was fucking awesome!"
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable "

Making Patton was the life-long project of producer Frank McCarthy, who served as an aide to Patton in WWII before he went to Hollywood.

It could have been made in the 50s or 60s if Frank had had is way. That it came out in 1970 with a hagiographic Coppola script just made it incredibly ironic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2018 09:51 PM (pV/54)

368 Fishy @362

Das Boot.
My ol man was on subs in WW2 and he agreed. Easily the closest thing to real underwater warfare in the war. He said he could still smell the diesel, sweat, coffee and hanging salamis.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (0tfLf)

369 Full Metal Jacket has two separate parts.

I saw this as a ying-yang thing, with ironic contrast between the two.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2018 09:55 PM (pV/54)

370 Das Boot.

My ol man was on subs in WW2 and he agreed. Easily the closest thing
to real underwater warfare in the war. He said he could still smell the
diesel, sweat, coffee and hanging salamis.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2018 09:52 PM (0tfLf)
+++++I hate to tell you what I thought you were talking about with "hanging salamis" I gagged a little, then realized you were being literal.

Posted by: elliot at May 19, 2018 10:02 PM (D+Jl9)

371 Hi TJM, hope you're still out there. Sorry I missed another weekend movie thread...

Just gotta say I recently saw The Conversation, and... wow. I thought it was an incredible great flick.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (eMKNe)

372 In 1974,

Coppola had Godfather II and The Conversation

Nicholson was nominated for Best Actor for Chinatown and The Last Detail

And Mel Brooks had Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2018 10:10 PM (pV/54)

373 371 Hi TJM, hope you're still out there. Sorry I missed another weekend movie thread...

Just gotta say I recently saw The Conversation, and... wow. I thought it was an incredible great flick.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 10:07 PM (eMKNe)

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I saw it in a college class for the first time.

It really is Coppola's forgotten masterpiece.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at May 19, 2018 10:12 PM (Jj43a)

374 Every military vehicle deserves a $10,000 preamp and mega speaker system to play badass music.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 20, 2018 01:49 AM (jRAUB)

375 Why am I gettting Ann. Inntnal error when I try to post?

Posted by: DocAnnie at May 20, 2018 05:57 AM (l4l/z)

Chess Thread 05-19-2018

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Spock Plays Chess


As always, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.


Easier Problem - White To Play (672)


Hint: Win material with a pin


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A Moron's Chess Table

WOPR chess table 525.jpg(Click for larger view)

WOPR writes:

My wife, the garage sale and auction shopper, found the table for me when I told her I wanted to make a chess table. From there it became a grim reminder of shop class back in high school. Stripping and staining were fairly straightforward. Instructions from online sites have you painting or staining in the squares. After considering that, I realized that with my skills it probably wasn't a good plan. So, I decided to get wood squares and solve my problem. The squares are 2" x 2" x 1/4". Of course, laying out the squares did not go quit as planned and they are off a bit at points. It is not bad if you do not look to closely. Overall, it is probably a C in shop class.

The chess pieces are a hand carved, weighted, House of Staunton set. They were on clearance with free shipping. House of Staunton has a piece sizing feature that matches the pieces to square size. The pieces have a good feel to them.


More Challenging Problem - White To Play (624)

Hint: e7 is vulnerable


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Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:






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It's great to have a First Lady who can really rock a pantsuit.



...and A Little Shoe Pr0n:



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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - White To Play


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1.Qa6+ Kd7

Not 1...Qb7?? 2. Qxb7#

2.Rb7

White pins and wins Black's queen for a rook. With the pin, he pulls just slightly ahead in material. Did you notice that White started out this problem down a piece? Now the material is Q v. R+N, so he's up by about a pawn.


More Challenging Problem - White To Play


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White can force a mate in 7 moves:

1.Rfe1! ( not 1.Rde1? Qd7 and the win slips away. Maintaining control of the d-file is crucial)

1...Qd7
2. Rxd7 Kxd7
3. Qxe7+ Kc6
4. Qe6+

Or 4.Qc5+ Kd7 5.Re7+ Kc8 6.Qxc7#

4...Kb5
5.Qd5+ c5
6.Qxc5+ Ka4
7.Qa5#


Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:05 PM




Comments

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1 Love the Spock pic.

Posted by: HH at May 19, 2018 04:57 PM (mIJBI)

2 !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 04:58 PM (kZuFG)

3 In the 1st pic, is the nice lady holding her pet raccoon ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:00 PM (kZuFG)

4 Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:05 PM

OM has control of the time machine today?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:01 PM (Dhht7)

5 Great photo of Nimoy.

Even better photo of Melania, with a Marine who appears to be saluting her.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 19, 2018 05:01 PM (du45m)

6 Easier Problem.

1. Qa6+ Kd7
2. Rb7

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 19, 2018 05:02 PM (vWMNq)

7 That purple dress is SO my color! And those shoes are charming.

Thanks, OMuse!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:03 PM (oMtOd)

8 Chess Thread Yippee!

Dress #2.....She looks like she wants to make fourteen dollars the hard way.

Amok time.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 05:03 PM (EoRCO)

9 OM has control of the time machine today?

JJ is doing the weather.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:03 PM (kZuFG)

10 Problem 1:

1. Qa6+ Kd7
2. Rb7

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:03 PM (sdi6R)

11 That vintage dress and hat are lovely. They almost look like something that could have been worn at today's royal wedding.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:05 PM (oMtOd)

12 Hillary could rock the pant suit also...One part Kirby vacuum bag, One part hall drape. One part oven mitt.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2018 05:05 PM (4cIxl)

13 Oooooh I LOVE that purple dress!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:07 PM (Enq6K)

14 Hillary could rock the pant suit also...One part Kirby vacuum bag, One part hall drape. One part oven mitt.


Posted by: Colin


Or borrow a tent from Barnum & Bailey.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:07 PM (kZuFG)

15
Good looking table, WOPR. Nice work.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 19, 2018 05:07 PM (WtQOO)

16 Hey everybody.

Article I saw being advertised online:

"We tried everything on Taco Bell's Dollar Menu... here's our thoughts"

I hope one of them wasn't "Wow, I had no idea I could spend so long on the toilet!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2018 05:07 PM (eMKNe)

17 That vintage dress and hat are lovely. They almost look like something that could have been worn at today's royal wedding.


Posted by: bluebell


That's over now right ?

Finally ?

It didn't go into extra innings ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:08 PM (kZuFG)

18 Problem 2:

1. Rfe1 threatening Qxe7#. What can Black do about it? Nothing as far as I can see.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:09 PM (sdi6R)

19 Hiya Bluebell !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:09 PM (kZuFG)

20 More Challenging Problem

1. Rfe1

Black has to sacrifice queen to stop mate.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 19, 2018 05:09 PM (vWMNq)

21 Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:05 PM (oMtOd)
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WeaselWoman was looking for a replay on tv or the innernet - any suggestions?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 05:09 PM (MVjcR)

22 Apparently, Spock is playing chess in the mirror universe. The board is off by 90 degrees. (The white square is in the left corner)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (KOF8G)

23 That's over now right ?



Finally ?



It didn't go into extra innings ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:08 PM (kZuFG)

Did they say where they are going on their honeymoon? I'm sure the Queen would let them use one of her palaces if needed.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (4cIxl)

24 Well, hellary could fill the seat of that pantsuit. At least until it dribbled down her legs to her cankles.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (zLDYs)

25 Who was Leonard Nimoys barber anyway?

Posted by: Rosie Odumbell at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (O9JR8)

26 I didn't watch the wedding - didn't really have an interest in it aside from the clothes. And yes, it's all over now.

Weasel, tell Mrs. Weasel to try Daily Mail. They have photos and video clips. And I'm sure if you search on YouTube you'll find tons of stuff.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:12 PM (oMtOd)

27 WeaselWoman was looking for a replay on tv or the innernet - any suggestions?
=====

Daily Mail.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 05:12 PM (MIKMs)

28 That's me playing Spock in 7-dimensional chess.

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (Tyii7)

29 WeaselWoman was looking for a replay on tv or the innernet - any suggestions?

He really married Stormy Daniels disguised as whatshername.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (kZuFG)

30
In fairness Clinton was going for the Chairman Mao look and FLOTUS appears to be going more for the I just stole this suit from Cary Grant's closet look

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (10vO4)

31 Wow, really foggy at the Preakness. Muddy too. Maybe that'll be good for Justify.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (Dhht7)

32 No way I'm wearing that first dress on a sandy beach.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (BVQ+1)

33 10 1/4 hours at work and hardly had lunch.

Isn't Spock supposed to be playing 3d chess?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:14 PM (aC6Sd)

34 Speaking of dresses, Tami, do you have your MOB and MOG dresses yet?

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:14 PM (oMtOd)

35 Vulcans suck at chess. Or maybe Spock is just an idiot, I don't know.

Posted by: James T. Kirk at May 19, 2018 05:15 PM (/qEW2)

36 I *think* I have my MOB dress. Haven't looked yet for my MOG dress.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:15 PM (Enq6K)

37 Thanks everyone.
Yeah -isn't Dr. Spork supposed to be playing 3D?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (MVjcR)

38 Melania can wear anything and look great

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (iF4iV)

39 Tell, Tami, tell!!!!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (oMtOd)

40 My solutions were being banned by Pixy. Someone naughty uses the same VPN as I do, it seems.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (uSurQ)

41 Who was Leonard Nimoys barber anyway?
Posted by: Rosie Odumbell at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (O9JR

Lloyd Christmas.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 05:17 PM (EoRCO)

42 Prince Harry and his new wife Meghan Markle leave Windsor Castle in a
Jaguar E-Type Concept Zero for their evening wedding reception at
Frogmore House on the Windsor estate.
They were driving without seatbelts. It would be something if they had been pulled over by the police!

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2018 05:17 PM (4cIxl)

43 WeaselWoman was looking for a replay on tv or the innernet - any suggestions?

Posted by: Weasel

Utube it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:18 PM (Dhht7)

44 Melania can wear anything and look great

Posted by: Kallisto
Or nothing with the same result.



Posted by: Tonypete at May 19, 2018 05:18 PM (9rIkM)

45 They were driving without seatbelts. It would be something if they had been pulled over by the police!

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2018 05:17 PM (4cIxl)


You would think that Harry would have a thing for using seatbelts.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 05:18 PM (uSurQ)

46 Remember, this is an outdoor wedding, at our house next month.

I ordered it online from Macy's. I have it...haven't tried it on yet.

http://tinyurl.com/yaqcw2yg

With these shoes:

http://tinyurl.com/ybbt2xyd

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:19 PM (Enq6K)

47 Melania can wear anything and look great
Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (iF4iV)

Mrs. Trump would look good wearing baggy sweatpants and a New Jersey Devils sweater.

She gots grace and stuff.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 05:19 PM (Mkuv2)

48 Nice job on the table WOPR.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:19 PM (kZuFG)

49 22 Apparently, Spock is playing chess in the mirror universe. The board is off by 90 degrees. (The white square is in the left corner)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (KOF8G)


What? You must be hallucinating. Look at the picture again.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:20 PM (KfVRF)

50
Who was Leonard Nimoys barber anyway?
Posted by: Rosie Odumbell at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (O9JR


It's the same guy that did Moe Howard's hair

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 05:20 PM (10vO4)

51 The Brit royals are boring AF

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:21 PM (iF4iV)

52 Weasel, I believe there may be a wedding replay at 6 on WETA UK.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at May 19, 2018 05:21 PM (V+03K)

53 38 Melania can wear anything and look great

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (iF4iV)


Melania would look great even if she were wearing nothing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:21 PM (KfVRF)

54 Ooh la la, Tami - very chic! In the blush color? It's lovely. And the shoes are gorgeous too.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:22 PM (oMtOd)

55 The picture has always been correct.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:22 PM (sdi6R)

56 The wedding was just beautiful. I sobbed and sobbed.

Posted by: Shemp! at May 19, 2018 05:23 PM (Tyii7)

57
Melania would look great even if she were wearing nothing.

Yeah. But she might catch a cold.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:23 PM (kZuFG)

58 54 Ooh la la, Tami - very chic! In the blush color? It's lovely. And the shoes are gorgeous too.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:22 PM (oMtOd)

I got it in the navy color...hides more sins.

It's ok for a MOB dress, right? Lie to me if you have to. I am soooo not into this dress thing.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:23 PM (Enq6K)

59 Good lord that woman is gorgeous.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 05:24 PM (/tuJf)

60 Not that I was watching the Royal Wedding, but Meghan's gown was bleh. And listening to the chick on Fox News (no, not Shep) talk about how the "star" of the wedding was Meghan's mom was double bleh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:25 PM (Dhht7)

61 I suppose it's too much to ask that now that "The Wedding" has happened, that folks can stop gushing over "The Royals." Ugh.

Please, enough of the Loyalist bootlicking. The Crown is nothing but a well-dressed clown show.

So sick of it all. Especially what with all else going on in that horrifically blighted nation.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 05:25 PM (Mkuv2)

62 Town and Country did a fantastic pictorial on the fashion
Of melania

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:25 PM (iF4iV)

63 He was like, "That move was illogical" and I was like, "No. You were just too dumb to see my combination. Some science officer you are".

Posted by: James T. Kirk at May 19, 2018 05:26 PM (/qEW2)

64 I was tempted to get it in the light blue color but that's almost exactly the color of the bridesmaid's dresses and that's a no-no.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:26 PM (Enq6K)

65 Ah, it came up for me in the blush color so I assumed you had done that when you linked it. I'm a yuuuge fan of navy so I think it's a great choice!

It's a very pretty dress. I'll bet when you try it on you'll love it. As to whether it's appropriate, I think it certainly is, but you could ask your daughter for her opinion.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:26 PM (oMtOd)

66 Did they play White Wedding?

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 05:27 PM (zLDYs)

67 First time commenting from iPhone, getting used to it

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:27 PM (iF4iV)

68 Half forgot all about it but in shop class maybe 9th grade made a chess coffee table. Remember it around sometime after but doubt my mom still has it.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:27 PM (aC6Sd)

69 Did they play White Wedding?
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 05:27 PM (zLDYs)

A Red Wedding might have been fun.

*Cue up Rains of Castamere*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 05:28 PM (Mkuv2)

70 Skip, was that your first foray into carpentry? A table sounds very ambitious!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:28 PM (oMtOd)

71 Town and Country did a fantastic pictorial on the fashion
Of melania

Posted by: Kallisto


Barns & Stables did one on Shillary.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (kZuFG)

72 62 Town and Country did a fantastic pictorial on the fashion
Of melania

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:25 PM (iF4iV)


Which is where I stole a lot of my Melania photos from.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (KfVRF)

73 Bluebell, the page defaults to the blush color.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (Enq6K)

74 Geraldo will be hosted by local talker. Wonder if I should go. He does like Trump.

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (iF4iV)

75 Town and Country did a fantastic pictorial on the fashion
Of melania

Posted by: Kallisto


Barns & Stables did one on Shillary.
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (kZuFG)


Crazy Larry's Discount Carpets and Drapes weekly sales ad did one on Moochele.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:30 PM (cY3LT)

76 Did they play White Wedding?
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 05:27 PM (zLDYs)


Brown Sugar.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:31 PM (cY3LT)

77 Mel aaaaaaaaahn i ah

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 05:32 PM (xx+WQ)

78 Does this boob belt make my resting face look bitchier?

Posted by: Mooch at May 19, 2018 05:32 PM (Tyii7)

79 Geraldo will be hosted by local talker. Wonder if I should go. He does like Trump.
Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (iF4iV)


Throw a chair at him.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 05:32 PM (2K6fY)

80 72 - oh please post the one of her deplaning AF1 on Easter in that beautiful white dress w pink belt and pink shoes!

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:32 PM (iF4iV)

81 Melania has flawless taste. Even Princess Diana had the occasional flop but I have not seen a single fail with Mrs. Trump.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at May 19, 2018 05:33 PM (2ZUTy)

82 Per Fox, $50 million for the Royal Wedding. 600 bottles of $1,700 champagne for a cool million bucks. But we were assured most of the expense was for security.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:33 PM (Dhht7)

83 I like the dress on the gal next to Melania better than the pantsuit. But I do love our current FLOTUS, I don't like every style she wears but she never looks like she let a frenemy dress her and she always looks gracious rather than grumpy.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 05:34 PM (84F5k)

84 22 Apparently, Spock is playing chess in the mirror universe. The board is off by 90 degrees. (The white square is in the left corner)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 19, 2018 05:11 PM (KOF8G)

What? You must be hallucinating. Look at the picture again.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:20 PM (KfVRF)


Oops. My mistake.


Hey, why so I suddenly have a beard?

Posted by: Chuck C at May 19, 2018 05:34 PM (KOF8G)

85 I have a crush on FLOTUS ; no homo

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:34 PM (iF4iV)

86 Whoa !

Nice dress Tami !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:34 PM (um4Es)

87 Per Fox, $50 million for the Royal Wedding. 600 bottles of $1,700 champagne for a cool million bucks. But we were assured most of the expense was for security.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:33 PM (Dhht7)


Why am I reminded of the old saying about a fool and his money...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:35 PM (cY3LT)

88 That's a very nice chess table, WOPR.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (sdi6R)

89 I like the dress on the gal next to Melania better than the pantsuit. But I do love our current FLOTUS, I don't like every style she wears but she never looks like she let a frenemy dress her and she always looks gracious rather than grumpy.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 05:34 PM (84F5k)


Agreed. I assume the other gal is somebody?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (cY3LT)

90 Insomniac.....

If you're out there......

Hiya.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (um4Es)

91 WOPR you're rocking some fine wood,wot is a chest table? The second dame has too much fur down below.

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (5IHGB)

92 Thanks JT!

Now I wonder where I can order the model's body?

BRB...checking Amazon.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:37 PM (Enq6K)

93 Agreed. I assume the other gal is somebody?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (cY3LT)
------------

Darned right she is!

Posted by: Somebody's mom at May 19, 2018 05:38 PM (oMtOd)

94 OM cheated. Spock pic flipped!

The Russians have hacked OM.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 05:38 PM (Mkuv2)

95 Per Fox, $50 million for the Royal Wedding. 600 bottles of $1,700 champagne for a cool million bucks. But we were assured most of the expense was for security

D'ya think she married him for the Royal Dental Plan ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (um4Es)

96 I think she was Aussie First Lady

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (iF4iV)

97 I don't even wear high heels and those burgundy velvet shoes with the leather appliqués are lovely. The purple dress is quite nice as is the old fashioned black and white dress.-that's my favorite. very elegant ,I'm not really big on flowers on clothes unless subtle, but the model is quite attractive. I think this is the fourth or fifth time we've seen her., OM,' is it not?. Do you have a crush on her? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (vw6r3)

98 Agreed. I assume the other gal is somebody?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (cY3LT)

Trudeau's wife...Sophie Gregorie

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (Enq6K)

99 The other women in the picture with Melania Trump is Sophie Gregoire, Justin Trudeau's wife.

Yes, she looks very nice too.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (S6Pax)

100 Game thread!

Bethesda are teasing / trolling the crap out of their upcoming releases. Last week they announced Rage 2, formally. (Informally, Walmart in Canada accidentally leaked a bunch of their upcoming releases.)

And we're all still awaiting E3 when Bethesda and others announce and demo more of their stuff. Starfield is the one I'm looking forward to, most.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 05:40 PM (6FqZa)

101 Now I wonder where I can order the model's body?


Awww..... I'm sure you're fine.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:40 PM (um4Es)

102 Ah, it came up for me in the blush color so I assumed you had done that when you linked it. I'm a yuuuge fan of navy so I think it's a great choice!

It's a very pretty dress. I'll bet when you try it on you'll love it. As to whether it's appropriate, I think it certainly is, but you could ask your daughter for her opinion.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 05:26 PM (oMtOd)


The only way it might be... MIGHT be inappropriate, is if everyone thinks you look better than the bride.

Otherwise, as a duly designated hetero (and unattached) male, I approve.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (cY3LT)

103 Trudeau's wife...Sophie Gregorie
Posted by: Tami


Beat me by THIS much. (holds finger very close together).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (S6Pax)

104 ''Agreed. I assume the other gal is somebody?''

The boy emperor of Canada's wife I think. Could be wrong though and too lazy to look her up.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (jm1YL)

105 Blue bell, you know I think it was, It was pretty basic with white and mahogany boards and a chess board on one end.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (aC6Sd)

106 The Aussie first lady is cute, but even beautiful Melania doesn't look good in a pantsuit. Nobody does. I say that as someone who wears pants a lot of the time-just not pantsuits. I think she needed higher heels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:42 PM (vw6r3)

107 So what made Melania decide to wear a pants suit? It seem out of character for her.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:43 PM (sdi6R)

108 80 72 - oh please post the one of her deplaning AF1 on Easter in that beautiful white dress w pink belt and pink shoes!
Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:32 PM (iF4iV)


I believe that one is in my backlog. But the belt looks gold to me, not pink.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:43 PM (KfVRF)

109 Thanks JT and Burt...you're too kind!

I better go try that puppy on.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:44 PM (Enq6K)

110 Speaking of dresses any one see a picture of Oprah at the royal wedding? LOL. Not an attractive design. Her boobs are so large she looks like she's going to tip over.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 05:44 PM (jm1YL)

111 That's Mrs. Trudeau then, not the wife of the PM of New Zealand?. Poor woman being married to such an idiot, but she probably agrees with all his politics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:44 PM (vw6r3)

112 Agreed. I assume the other gal is somebody?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:36 PM (cY3LT)

Trudeau's wife...Sophie Gregorie
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (Enq6K)


Oh that's right. Sometimes fine looking woman, ruined by the douchebag to whom she is married.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:44 PM (cY3LT)

113 I think this is the fourth or fifth time we've seen her., OM,' is it not?. Do you have a crush on her? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM (vw6r3)


No, just a lot of photos of her. I think the consensus here is that she's Korean.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 05:45 PM (KfVRF)

114 111
That's Mrs. Trudeau then, not the wife of the PM of New Zealand?. Poor
woman being married to such an idiot, but she probably agrees with all
his politics.


She probably writes all his policies.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 19, 2018 05:45 PM (vWMNq)

115 In other gaming news, Borderlands 3 is delayed, and No Man's Sky (remember that?) is getting co-op / multiplayer.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 05:45 PM (6FqZa)

116 Beat me by THIS much. (holds finger very close together).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (S6Pax)

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:46 PM (Enq6K)

117 Love the purple gown above. Doesn't it just shout "Prom" ?

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 05:47 PM (jm1YL)

118 108 - yes its gold, my bad

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:47 PM (iF4iV)

119 ...


@dcexaminer

Stormy Daniels performance cut short after man throws wallet at her face https://washex.am/2wUFFWG

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 05:47 PM (LNPd9)

120 Stormy Daniels performance cut short after man throws wallet at her face

Huh.

I guess the wallet was empty.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:48 PM (um4Es)

121 Is that the Prime Minister of Peruvia's wife?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at May 19, 2018 05:48 PM (Tyii7)

122 Justify is a 2-5 shot today.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:49 PM (Dhht7)

123 @dcexaminer

Stormy Daniels performance cut short after man throws wallet at her face https://washex.am/2wUFFWG
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 05:47 PM (LNPd9)


My wallet is made of old distressed leather. I don't think anyone would notice if I threw it at her face.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 05:50 PM (cY3LT)

124 Justify is a 2-5 shot today.

That's right, the Preakness is today.


I bet a horse wins.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:50 PM (um4Es)

125 Stormy is not attractive. She has a dusty aura about her.

Posted by: Kallisto at May 19, 2018 05:51 PM (iF4iV)

126 Stormy is not attractive. She has a dusty aura about her.


Lotta miles.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:53 PM (um4Es)

127
Speaking of dresses any one see a picture of Oprah at the royal wedding? LOL. Not an attractive design. Her boobs are so large she looks like she's going to tip over.
Posted by: Tuna


O, That's Good!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 05:53 PM (IqV8l)

128 That's terrible that a man throw a wallet at Stormy. I don't like her, but com'on.... Her performance should be cut short...The whole Stormy performance is overdone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:53 PM (vw6r3)

129 I would think the wallet was filled so she cut short the engagement because she was payed in full early.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:54 PM (aC6Sd)

130 >>> Overall, it is probably a C in shop class.

I give you a B+ for playing Scandinavian defense.

Posted by: fluffy at May 19, 2018 05:54 PM (cHbmY)

131 I would think the wallet was filled so she cut short the engagement because she was payed in full early.

Posted by: Skip


An optimist !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:55 PM (um4Es)

132 I won't worry about seeing the ONT tonight, might not even barely make the movie thread if we get that.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:55 PM (aC6Sd)

133 Why was Oprah at the Royal Wedding ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:56 PM (um4Es)

134 Bertram. The Oprah pic. Check out the shoes. Not sure how she walked in them or even kept her feet in them.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at May 19, 2018 05:57 PM (HDV2C)

135 I won't worry about seeing the ONT tonight, might not even barely make the movie thread if we get that.

Posted by: Skip


Sleep well Skip; you earned it.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:57 PM (um4Es)

136 Love the show pron. Thank you. (Did CBD request it?)

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 05:57 PM (w45mR)

137 Serena Williams had one of the weirder hats. It look like some spiky plant growing out of her head. I didnt watch the wedding-just looked at youtube clip o stars arriving because I like hats. Victoria buckram looked like she was going to a funeral-no hat

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:57 PM (vw6r3)

138 Stormy Daniels performance cut short after man throws wallet at her face

I'm not a Stormy Daniels fan, but that was rude and uncalled for.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:58 PM (sdi6R)

139 I'm with jt, why was Oprah there?

Posted by: NCKate at May 19, 2018 05:59 PM (0rbYy)

140 Bertram. The Oprah pic. Check out the shoes. Not sure how she walked in them or even kept her feet in them.


She's rich enough to have a guy walk for her.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:59 PM (um4Es)

141 133 Why was Oprah at the Royal Wedding ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:56 PM (um4Es)

To eat?

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:00 PM (Enq6K)

142 Why was Oprah at the Royal Wedding ?

I mistakenly ordered 1 million lamb shanks.

Posted by: The Royal Wedding Chef at May 19, 2018 06:01 PM (Tyii7)

143 Love the show pron. Thank you. (Did CBD request it?

Show pron ?

Am I on the wrong channel ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:02 PM (um4Es)

144 Speaking of dresses any one see a picture of Oprah at the royal wedding? LOL. Not an attractive design. Her boobs are so large she looks like she's going to tip over.
Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 05:44 PM (jm1YL)


Ya know, I saw a pic of her from a different angle and she looked much better. Much thinner. I do think those boobs make her look heavier from the front, especially because she is not really tall.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:02 PM (w45mR)

145 I wondered about Oprah too, and Serena Williams. My guess is that they are friends of Harry's. Is Markle a big enough actress that she would be friends with the glitterati like Clooney? I honestly never heard of her until she got engaged but that doesn't mean much.

Posted by: Somebody's mom at May 19, 2018 06:04 PM (oMtOd)

146 Serena Williams had one of the weirder hats

She was there too ?

No WONDER it cost 50 mil !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:04 PM (um4Es)

147 Love the show pron. Thank you. (Did CBD request it?

Show pron ?

Am I on the wrong channel ?
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:02 PM (um4Es)


Oops. Typo!
*Shoe pron.

Did I mention I poked myself in the eye recently? Yea, I'm gonna milk that excuse.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:04 PM (w45mR)

148 Stormy is not attractive. She has a dusty aura about her.


Lotta miles.
Posted by: JT


Not attractive?

She looks like a criminal defense attorney's waiting room couch.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 06:04 PM (LNPd9)

149 Victoria buckram looked like she was going to a funeral-no hat

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 05:57 PM (vw6r3)

She had a hat on. It was navy, against her dark hair it may have looked like no hat but she had a hat on.

But, like I said this morning, she did forget her bra.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (Enq6K)

150 Whoops, need to shed the sock.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (oMtOd)

151 I might have worked all day but at least I wasn't subjected to this royal wedding.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd)

152 Didn't see Oprah this morning, but saw Clooney strutting his stuff. Made me want to harf.

Other than that, the African American minister was met with mixed reviews. What did he say? "Controlled fire makes all things of modern life possible." Was he talking about the rocket in Prince Harry's pants?

The MSM thought he was awesome. The Brits not so much. At least that was my read.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 06:06 PM (Dhht7)

153 What time is the race?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:06 PM (aC6Sd)

154 But, like I said this morning, she did forget her bra.
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (Enq6K)
----------

And her seamstress forgot to finish the dress.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:06 PM (oMtOd)

155 Speaking of George C. Looney, does anybody else mis-read his wife's name as Anal ?

Is it just me ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:07 PM (um4Es)

156 124 Justify is a 2-5 shot today.

That's right, the Preakness is today.


I bet a horse wins.
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 05:50 PM (um4Es)

So you're saying there's a chance?

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at May 19, 2018 06:08 PM (jp0Bv)

157
*raises left eyebrow*


Fascinating.


Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:08 PM (ZSkht)

158 Touch move, you green blooded, pointy eared Vulcan!

Posted by: Ironwood at May 19, 2018 06:08 PM (3T/nT)

159 153
What time is the race?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:06 PM (aC6Sd)

6:48 ET is post-time. Until then it is a bunch of talking and stuff.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 19, 2018 06:09 PM (DxWUs)

160 The MSM thought he was awesome.

Of course they would. If he had read the London telephone directory they still would've gushed and gushed.

Posted by: The Royal Wedding Chef at May 19, 2018 06:10 PM (Tyii7)

161 The first dress, in the painting...did you see how tiny her waist was? The corset must have been pulled soooo tight.

Corsets were made with whale-bone and so uncomfortable. They had fainting couches because women would become short of breath from the damn things and pass out. Don't know how women moved around in those things.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:11 PM (w45mR)

162 Wasn't sure if I missed it, have it on now

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:13 PM (aC6Sd)

163 Amal thought she was all that and a bag of chips walking in.

Video show several 'celebrities' arriving.

http://tinyurl.com/y92mxa8g

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:13 PM (Enq6K)

164 Don't know how women moved around in those things.


Mebbe that was the idea.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (um4Es)

165 Brilliant job on the table. What kind of wood is that for the board, WOPR who is apparently absent at the moment?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (y87Qq)

166
From People.Com

Oprah Winfrey Changed Her Royal Wedding Dress 'Overnight' Because It Looked 'Too White'

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (IqV8l)

167 Haven't made heads or tails of the first chess problem.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)

168 O.K. I'm glad Victoria Beckham was wearing a hat.

And I guess the yellow is a good color for Amal Clooney, but I don't like that color.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:15 PM (vw6r3)

169 Oprah Winfrey Changed Her Royal Wedding Dress 'Overnight' Because It Looked 'Too White'
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (IqV8l)


That was very nice of her.

No one but the bride is supposed to wear white to the wedding. It is a major faux paux.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:17 PM (w45mR)

170 But, like I said this morning, she did forget her bra.
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (Enq6K)
----------

And her seamstress forgot to finish the dress.



Posted by: bluebell


!

!

I'm gonna have to get up earlier !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:18 PM (um4Es)

171 Trudeau's wife...Sophie Gregorie
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 05:39 PM

I'm surprised she wasn't wearing kente cloth in honor of the bride.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 06:18 PM (2NqXo)

172 I thought Kate looked lovely, as always. I really like the way she dresses. Although I can't believe she looks so good so soon after giving birth. But she always does.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:18 PM (oMtOd)

173 Amal thought she was all that and a bag of chips walking in.



She always does.

She adores the limelight and being in it, and spends a fortune on clothes. She becomes more and more insufferable.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:18 PM (w45mR)

174 Corsets were made with whale-bone and so uncomfortable. They had fainting couches because women would become short of breath from the damn things and pass out. Don't know how women moved around in those things.
Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:11 PM (w45mR)



It's true. I boned many a Victorian woman.

And they all fainted from the experience.

Posted by: Sperm Whale at May 19, 2018 06:19 PM (ZSkht)

175 167 Haven't made heads or tails of the first chess problem.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)


Well, there's your problem. It's a chess position, not a coin toss.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 06:19 PM (sdi6R)

176 No one but the bride is supposed to wear white to the wedding. It is a major faux paux.

Oh oh! I committed major faux pas at the wedding I just offiated at. I wore a white robe and white stole because my black robe is from 1994 and it looks really shabby.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:19 PM (vw6r3)

177 The less said of Oprah Winfrey's sartorial malpractice at the wedding the better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2018 06:20 PM (kH8TU)

178 Haven't made heads or tails of the first chess problem.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (aC6Sd)


I think it starts with Qa6 but only because it's the only bold move to a space that's not immediately in check, and it gives check. But I'm not sure where to go from there, or if that's even the right move.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:20 PM (y87Qq)

179 Is it time for another go at organizing Ace's wedding? That was so much fun the last time.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 06:20 PM (hyuyC)

180 Oprah Winfrey Changed Her Royal Wedding Dress 'Overnight' Because It Looked 'Too White'
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (IqV8l)

I thought that meant-what a white person would wear- not the color. I hope it was the latter which would make me feel better about Oprah.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (vw6r3)

181 Solutions up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (KfVRF)

182 Veil and tiara were fantastic, the dress and her bouquet were a disappointment. That fabric was too heavy. It bunched up everywhere, her waistline was gone. As she descended the church steps afterward, the train went flop down each step like a fish slapping its tail. Should've had a little more flow to it.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (2NqXo)

183 O.K. I'm glad Victoria Beckham was wearing a hat.

And I guess the yellow is a good color for Amal Clooney, but I don't like that color.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:15 PM (vw6r3)



Yellow hides the pee stains when your catheter leaks.

Uh...or so I'm told.

Posted by: Hillary! at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (ZSkht)

184 Did I mention I poked myself in the eye recently?

I hate when that happens.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (um4Es)

185 179 Is it time for another go at organizing Ace's wedding? That was so much fun the last time.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 06:20 PM (hyuyC)

Hobo meat and val-u-rite doesn't take a lot of organizing.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:22 PM (Enq6K)

186 >>> Oh oh! I committed major faux pas at the wedding I just offiated at.

I think you are exempt.

Posted by: fluffy at May 19, 2018 06:22 PM (cHbmY)

187 Kate always does look lovely. She never puts a foot wrong.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:22 PM (w45mR)

188 The more I read about how the kid in Texas was bullied at school the happier I am that he enacted some serious and bloody retribution on that school community.

Posted by: Paybacks a bitch at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM (K+v02)

189 Salty, I don't see how we could possibly improve on the plans we already made. We thought of everything.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM (oMtOd)

190
Did I mention I poked myself in the eye recently?

I hate when that happens.
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:21 PM (um4Es)



I did that last week too.

Poking yourself in the eye is like the new Ebola.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM (ZSkht)

191 bluebell,

As kids say nowadays " Who are we going to ship him to?"

Ann Coulter is right out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (hyuyC)

192 189 Salty, I don't see how we could possibly improve on the plans we already made. We thought of everything.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM (oMtOd)

I missed it, damnit!

Musta been busy...organizing a wedding.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (Enq6K)

193 Clean up on aisle #188.


Another low IQ Soros troll.

*sigh*


We gotta get better trolls.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (ZSkht)

194 Reminds me of this. http://tinyurl.com/zxnleal

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (J70i0)

195 94 OM cheated. Spock pic flipped!

The Russians have hacked OM.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 05:38 PM (Mkuv2)

++++

Real Russian hackers wouldn't have left the evidence sitting on the server.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/spock%20plays%20chess.jpg

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/spock%20plays%20chess%20-%20flip.jpg

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (pvjTE)

196 so do we have any evidence that leonard nimoy was smarter than average?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (MTjB1)

197 Tami. you're going to shine in that dress and those shoon. Thanks for showing us.

I'm going to an outdoor graduation ceremony tomorrow (my youngest -- B.A., Sociology, Pre-Law)

and I haven't figured out what to wear. I do this to myself all the time. I don't like shopping.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (uJ09Y)

198 Kate always does look lovely. She never puts a foot wrong.

Never stepped on broken glass, huh ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (um4Es)

199 Now that OM put up the solutions.

Doh!

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (aC6Sd)

200 Good looking table, WOPR. Nice work.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 19, 2018 05:07 PM (WtQOO)

Thanks.

And thanks to OregonMuse for doing the chess thread and for posting my picture.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (J70i0)

201 so do we have any evidence that leonard nimoy was smarter than average?
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:25 PM (MTjB1)



Well....he didn't marry Hillary!

so, there's that.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:27 PM (ZSkht)

202 Tami, it was over a year ago! On a Saturday morning.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:28 PM (oMtOd)

203 Booknlass-

How's da cats ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:28 PM (um4Es)

204 I like bourbon in my moustache. Is that wrong?

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 19, 2018 06:28 PM (WX+x0)

205 Tami, it was over a year ago! On a Saturday morning.


I gotta get up even earlier !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:29 PM (um4Es)

206 No worse than Gin in your beard.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (R5lpX)

207 "Great photo of Nimoy"

*** disappears photo with blast of brain energy ***

Posted by: bratty space teen at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (UdKB7)

208 WOPR, you did a great job on that table. It's very pretty. You should be very proud of it. And kudos to your wife for spotting it!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (oMtOd)

209 Melania's legs go alllllll the way up, don't they?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (xJa6I)

210 Kate always does look lovely. She never puts a foot wrong.

Never stepped on broken glass, huh ?
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (um4Es)

No.

She fit the glass slipper perfectly.

Badum-bum.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (w45mR)

211 What's the best Roger Moore Bond movie?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (hMwEB)

212 Riders , start your horses

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:31 PM (aC6Sd)

213 and I haven't figured out what to wear. I do this to myself all the time. I don't like shopping.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:26 PM (uJ09Y)

I have nooooo problems shopping...at all. But shopping for fancy dresses? Ugh...hate it.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:31 PM (Enq6K)

214 What's the best Roger Moore Bond movie?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (hMwEB)



"The Spy Who Loved Me'

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:31 PM (ZSkht)

215 Yogsothoth knows the gate

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

216 Yogsothoth IS the gate

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

217 202 Tami, it was over a year ago! On a Saturday morning.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 06:28 PM (oMtOd)

Well poop. How'd I miss that?!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (Enq6K)

218

You have your shoes on the wrong feet.

But these are the only feet I have!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (IqV8l)

219 hi JT!

I just got home from work a little bit ago, and I went straight to my room to see them.

Little yeller was sitting like a big cat in front of the night stand, all by himself. Eyes open, not mewing.

the other three were still under there, piled up like puppies. mom's strutting around, taking a breather. I'm a little worried about Pepe le Pew. I'll go check on him now and let you know....

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (uJ09Y)

220 Brilliant job on the table. What kind of wood is that for the board, WOPR who is apparently absent at the moment?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:14 PM (y87Qq)

The squares are hardwood maple. I ordered them from here. http://tinyurl.com/y9alej7j

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (J70i0)

221 "For Your Eyes Only" is also good.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (ZSkht)

222 My fav dress is the black/white photo. It's really the whole look, the model, the time period and France.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (w45mR)

223 I hate shopping for clothes

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (vw6r3)

224 Many times drove back from MB and got through Baltimore just as this race was happening. Best time if you have to transverse Baltimore.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (aC6Sd)

225 Yogsothoth knows the gate

Never marry a woman named YOGSOTHOTH.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:34 PM (um4Es)

226 WOPR, lovely table!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:34 PM (hMwEB)

227 215 Yogsothoth knows the gate
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

But he ain't the Gatekeeper

Posted by: Zuul at May 19, 2018 06:34 PM (jp0Bv)

228 best moore bond movie - for your eyes only

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:35 PM (MTjB1)

229 225 Yogsothoth knows the gate

Never marry a woman named YOGSOTHOTH.
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:34 PM (um4Es)

Good advice

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:35 PM (xJa6I)

230 i am certain that the irony of the royal wedding coinciding with the preakness is not lost on the womyn's studies departments.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 06:35 PM (Pg+x7)

231 I'm going off to see Deadpool 2, so likely to miss the movie thread.

Anyone here seen it yet?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (xJa6I)

232 ... iykwim...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (Pg+x7)

233 The squares are hardwood maple. I ordered them from here. http://tinyurl.com/y9alej7j
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 06:33 PM (J70i0)


Did you use the same wood for both squares and just stain half of them?

You should do a writeup for the weekly woodworking projects thread. I'd read it.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (y87Qq)

234 Melania is definitely a very pretty woman, perhaps the prettiest first lady ever, and she does the best someone could do with that suit but that suit is awful.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)

235 Good advice

I have my moments.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (um4Es)

236 Blokes don't care about a horse race in Maryland

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (aC6Sd)

237 Did Justify win?

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (e7oj4)

238 227 215 Yogsothoth knows the gate
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

But he ain't the Gatekeeper
Posted by: Zuul at May 19, 2018 06:34 PM (jp0Bv)

No, he ain't.

Posted by: Saint Peter at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (jp0Bv)

239 I don't have the same disdain for monarchy that many here do but my interest in this wedding is close to zero.
Yeah, Harry is the grandson of the queen, etc., etc., but it's just not that big of a deal.

That said --- and as with the otherwise snoozeworthy Oscars --- I always check out the fashion.

The wedding dress? The bride said she was going for the kind of look Caroline Whoever wore when she married JFK Jr. Yeah, nice. But you can't get that sleek, sophisticated look when you're adding a fussy tiara, long veil, and big train. So it ended up being just okay.
The reception halter-top dress was much sharper.

Best dressed of the celebs that I saw --- Victoria Beckham. Understated and sleek, as usual.

Amal Clooney overdid it in a neon-bright yellow dress and matching hat. She wears the color well, as few women do, but it registered an eleven on the attention-whore scale.

Oprah, who usually dresses very well, looked dreadful in a tight boob-enhancing pink dress. This may be what Miss Piggy looks like naked --- except for the ginormous boobs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (0jtPF)

240 Posted by: Paybacks a bitch at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM (K+v02)

That's nuts. Sounds like you're a troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (vw6r3)

241 Best Moore Bond movie?

None

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:38 PM (aC6Sd)

242 is markle's mom black?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:38 PM (MTjB1)

243 Melania is definitely a very pretty woman, perhaps the prettiest first lady ever, and she does the best someone could do with that suit but that suit is awful.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)


Yea, that was a rare miss for her.

Yes, Meghan's mom is black.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 06:39 PM (w45mR)

244 i LOL'd at the bride wearing white...

she's had more rubber rubbed off inside her than you can find on the runways at LAX.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2018 06:39 PM (OK5xV)

245 Best Moore Bond movie?

None
Posted by: Skip at May



you have to give Moore his due. He did pretty well with the trash that was written into those scripts.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (MTjB1)

246 Best Moore Bond movie?
None
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:38 PM (aC6Sd)

Zardoz II: 007's Boogaloo.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (EoRCO)

247 This may be what Miss Piggy looks like naked --- except for the ginormous boobs.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 06:37 PM (0jtPF)


This is the kind of commentary that keeps me coming back to the Saturday evening chess thread on the smart military blog.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (y87Qq)

248 White can force a mate in 7 moves

++++

6 is better, no?

1.Rfe1 Qd7
2.Rxd7 Kxd7
3.Qxe7+ Kc6
4.Re6+ Kb5
5.Qc5+ Ka4
6.Qa5#

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)

249 The 40's fashions were pure class. Anybody could wear them and look good.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (VB3UB)

250 Yes, Meghan's mom is black.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May




interesting. would never have know had I not scrolled through some pics.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:41 PM (MTjB1)

251 Best Moore Bond film is "A View To A Kill"

Christopher Walken. Period. Done.

All other answers are paper assed nonsense.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 06:41 PM (LNPd9)

252 Sean is better in Zardoz than Moore in any Bond movie

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:41 PM (aC6Sd)

253 e7's are always vulnerable, but fragging them is UCMJ action,

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2018 06:42 PM (OK5xV)

254 I like Moore's Bond - he was funny

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:42 PM (hMwEB)

255 it's amazing that over the 50-some years since secretariat no horse has come close to his times. for humans, race times are broken yearly in sprints and distance.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 06:42 PM (Pg+x7)

256 This reminds me of the Fog Bowl, Eagles vs Bears

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:43 PM (aC6Sd)

257 What's the best Roger Moore Bond movie?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (hMwEB)


Live and Let Die is not a good Bond movie, a good Roger Moore movie, or even a good movie by any definition but I will watch the hell out of it if it happens to be on. Je ne regrette rien.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:44 PM (y87Qq)

258 ''The Spy Who Loved Me'''

Yep. Saw that on the big screen when it came out. Back when movie theaters had one screen.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 06:44 PM (jm1YL)

259 (22) The pic is mirrored L-R. Where is his watch.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 06:44 PM (RuIsu)

260 Moore Bond film is "A View To A Kill"

Christopher Walken. Period. Done.

All other answers are paper assed nonsense.
Posted bfirey: weft cut-loop at May




meh, fun movie, but definitely not one of his best bond movies. hard to take a bond movie seriously that includes escaping a second story fire via ladder and driving the ladder car as major plot points.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:44 PM (MTjB1)

261 ''she's had more rubber rubbed off inside her than you can find on the runways at LAX. ''

I'm so using that.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 06:45 PM (jm1YL)

262 Good manic has track position

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:45 PM (aC6Sd)

263 Hello all! Checking in today and the first comment I read was that of a troll. In the chess thread.

Posted by: IC at May 19, 2018 06:45 PM (PEJUg)

264 Justify wins!

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:46 PM (aC6Sd)

265 what fun! the kitties are 2 weeks old. all of them can walk around and sit, and are healthy, although little pepe rolls over onto his back way too much and too easily. he's a weeble.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:46 PM (uJ09Y)

266 Justify won the Preakness in very tight and very foggy race.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 06:47 PM (Dhht7)

267 Sparkle's reception dress was much nicer than her wedding dress. She really shouldn't have worn a white wedding dress, it was tacky. Even if she were a virgin getting married for the first time...she is too old to wear white. a beautiful off white or ivory would have suited her much better. She does seem to wear lots of white. There were a lot of hideous dresses at this wedding. Why??? These people have tons of money, why do they choose such ugly dresses. Pippa's dress was horrible, ugh!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 06:47 PM (kufk0)

268 I usually love what Melania wears but not this particular one. Her hair is always so lovely though; must have her own stylist on hand at all times.

Posted by: IC at May 19, 2018 06:47 PM (PEJUg)

269 i would have liked to wear clothes like the second picture. I love the angle of that hat. and the fur.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:48 PM (uJ09Y)

270 ''There were a lot of hideous dresses at this wedding. Why''

I know. So much money. So much bad taste.

Posted by: Tuna at May 19, 2018 06:48 PM (jm1YL)

271 Gotta hope the next race is a muddy mess too

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:49 PM (aC6Sd)

272 ''she's had more rubber rubbed off inside her than you can find on the runways at LAX. '

Eww; She's been married twice and is an actress and is 38. I expect that she's not a virgin-no, but then there aren't a lot of them out there unless they come from a religious background, respect the admonitions against pre-marital sex and have not been married before. I don't expect Harry will have blood on his wedding sheets tomorrow either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:49 PM (vw6r3)

273 I was watching the video in the sidebar. I've only gotten halfway through it so far, but Michael Dyson is an utterly evil and dishonest racist Marxist scumbag who exemplifies everything that is wrong with American education today.

He is a perfect advertisement for one-way helicopter flights.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 06:49 PM (sdi6R)

274 ''There were a lot of hideous dresses at this wedding. Why''

I know. So much money. So much bad taste.
Posted by: Tuna


Who exactly thought the Left's March Through the Institutions would leave aesthetics unharmed?

They didn't exactly do wonders for art.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 06:50 PM (LNPd9)

275 Enough of the mud pies. I want some oats.

Posted by: Justify at May 19, 2018 06:50 PM (Tyii7)

276 "The Spy Who Loved Me" The opening was hard to beat. Also, Barbara Bach!


"For Your Eyes Only" I'm a little biased here. One of the locations the movie was shot at was the Greek Isle of Corfu. I spent a week there and I have fond, somewhat blurry and in some cases blacked out, memories of my time there. Ouzo is good, dangerous, but good. Pints of Lager was about 50 cents a bottle. About the movie? How Roger Moore's Bond dispatched the bad guy on the edge of the cliff was cold blooded awesome!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 06:50 PM (pY+s4)

277 I don't expect Harry will have blood on his wedding sheets tomorrow either.

Meaning Harry's no blushing virgin bridegroom either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:51 PM (vw6r3)

278 FLOTUS has class and grace and a stunning sense of style. The two Mrs. Bushes also had it/has it. Hillary and the Wookie, Hillary is a lesbian Mao clone and the Wookie is, well, a Wookie. And a mean one at that. Even Chewbacca says he'd never stick it in that.

Course having a love of country and respect for the office is the basis for a fabulously stunning FLOTUS.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 19, 2018 06:52 PM (Ie8wE)

279 watching Man with a Golden Gun now coz Christopher Walken

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:52 PM (hMwEB)

280 277, Fenelon, he certainly is not. Can't say I am optimist about their long term chances but hey, if it works out good for them.

Posted by: IC at May 19, 2018 06:53 PM (PEJUg)

281 My mom asked me today if I watched the wedding. I said I couldn't give two shits about that wedding. "WHAT??? she says..you're British!".. no mom, I was born there. I'm an American and I just really don't care. Poor dear...she almost got the vapors.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

282 Flipping channels and Wonder Woman on ME TV has as a guest star introducing Debra Winger

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 06:54 PM (aC6Sd)

283 watching Man with a Golden Gun now coz Christopher Walken
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May




?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 06:54 PM (MTjB1)

284 i mean Christopher Lee

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:55 PM (hMwEB)

285 It won't last a year. They may keep up appearances for longer but it's doomed.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 06:55 PM (UdKB7)

286 Jewells, my dear old mom in Malaysia stayed up to some ungodly hour to watch. They love their royalty in the commonwealth countries. She asked me if I was watching - told her I'd rather be doing just about anything else.

Posted by: IC at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (PEJUg)

287 lin-duh, please tell me the gecko that you are sending Weasel home with is named Gordon.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (VB3UB)

288 back when moore was bond the connery movies were in total eclipse - nearly forgotten. the gimmicky, joky moore films were massive international hits.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (Pg+x7)

289 watching Man with a Golden Gun now coz Christopher Walken
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May



Lee. Not Walken

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (pY+s4)

290 Breitbart has a write up about Markle's wedding fashion.

hint: they did not like it.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (uJ09Y)

291 watching Man with a Golden Gun now coz Christopher Walken Lee
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books!


I've been to that island. It's really tiny.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (LNPd9)

292 Did you use the same wood for both squares and just stain half of them?

You should do a writeup for the weekly woodworking projects thread. I'd read it.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:36 PM (y87Qq)

Same wood for both and I stained both colors.

Trust me, you don't want around any sort of wood working projects. I had fun doing it but I'm all klutz.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 19, 2018 06:57 PM (J70i0)

293 Hillary is fat. She will probably always be fat unless she loses a lot of weight because of illness. What would people dress her in to make her look better?. I'm serious here-don't tell me " a casket" "prison strikes" or "orange" ;^). I ask because there was a woman-the grandmother of the bride at the wedding I officiated at. She had some beautiful black silk pants and a white blouse with some short of sheer Japanese looking white and black gossamer thing over it. She looked beautiful and she is not a small woman. It's hard for people who are heavy to look good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:57 PM (vw6r3)

294 I've only gotten halfway through it so far, but Michael Dyson is an utterly evil and dishonest racist Marxist scumbag who exemplifies everything that is wrong with American education today.
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 06:49 PM (sdi6R)


I got as far as "white people invented race" (!) and just skipped all of his parts, because there's nothing he could possibly say that I want to hear.

In fairness I only watched it for Stephen Fry.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 06:57 PM (y87Qq)

295 ... late last night my insomniac self saw a family feud that asked for the best bond movies - goldfinger was number one followed by 5 moore movies.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 06:57 PM (Pg+x7)

296 Royal Wedding? Meh. Not my Royal Family. I didn't vote for them

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 06:58 PM (pY+s4)

297 Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 06:55 PM (UdKB7)

I don't think anyone can know that. If she is pregnant as some of the tabloids claim it would be nice if the marriage lasted longer than that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:58 PM (vw6r3)

298 lin-duh, please tell me the gecko that you are sending Weasel home with is named Gordon.
------
Actually it's Dillion aka Diablo. hahaha

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 06:58 PM (kufk0)

299 It won't last a year. They may keep up appearances for longer but it's doomed.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 06:55 PM (UdKB7)



Hyacinth would never have approved of that marriage

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 06:59 PM (SiINZ)

300 It's hard for people who are heavy to look good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 06:57 PM (vw6r3)


Not if they just hang around chubby-chasers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 06:59 PM (uSurQ)

301 Not if they just hang around chubby-chasers.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May




or have fatter friends.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:00 PM (MTjB1)

302 298 lin-duh, please tell me the gecko that you are sending Weasel home with is named Gordon.
------
Actually it's Dillion aka Diablo. hahaha
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 06:58 PM (kufk0)
-------
I think the airline has a rule about checking rifles and geckos on the same flight. It's called the Geico Rule.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:00 PM (MVjcR)

303 Hyacinth would never have approved of that marriage
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 06:59 PM (SiINZ)

On of the best shows ever!. It's funny to think that Patricia Routledge is quite a fine singer and has done a lot of musicals and musical performances

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:00 PM (vw6r3)

304 What's the best Roger Moore Bond movie?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (hMwEB)



If you like Roger Moore, This TV channel runs 4 Saint episodes every Saturday night. Starts at 7pm Central. A number actors and actresses from the Bond movies were guest stars

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 07:01 PM (SiINZ)

305 What dead animal is the b&w picture holding?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)

306
or have fatter friends.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:00 PM (MTjB1)


Or always stand behind concave lenses.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:02 PM (uSurQ)

307 Or always stand behind concave lenses.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May




or lamp posts, so you will seem to be two people.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:03 PM (MTjB1)

308 or lamp posts, so you will seem to be two people.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:03 PM (MTjB1)


Clever.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:03 PM (uSurQ)

309 I feel the same way about wood that Michelangelo felt about marble. It speaks to you, Too bad I don't even come close to 1% of his talent.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2018 07:03 PM (VB3UB)

310 I think the airline has a rule about checking rifles and geckos on the same flight. It's called the Geico Rule.
------
That's ok, you can just hide him in your pants....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 07:04 PM (kufk0)

311 Fen... I see so many overweight women that dress so horribly. Trying to squeeze into size 12 when they are clearly 2 sizes above that. There IS a way to dress nice but first you have to admit you are overweight and dress accordingly. Hildebeast could look so much better but her taste in clothes is just hideous.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:04 PM (dUJdY)

312 ...and has done a lot of musicals and musical performances.

Poor Emmett knows that only too well...

Posted by: Toni at May 19, 2018 07:04 PM (SEY8G)

313 What's the best Roger Moore Bond movie?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 06:30 PM (hMwEB)


Live and Let Die.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 19, 2018 07:04 PM (sXefu)

314 What dead animal is the b&w picture holding?
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)


Beaver.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:05 PM (w45mR)

315 Skip I think it looks like fox.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 07:05 PM (uJ09Y)

316 http://bit.ly/2LfMN39
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Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 07:05 PM (y3aQB)

317 What dead animal is the b&w picture holding?
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)


Beaver.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:05 PM (w45mR)


I like dead beaver.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 19, 2018 07:06 PM (uSurQ)

318 314 What dead animal is the b&w picture holding?
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)


Beaver.
Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:05 PM (w45mR)

Are we doing 'beaver' again?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 07:06 PM (xJa6I)

319 You know all those colorful red-eyed frog images you see all over, whenever you find someone with more money than taste?

Yeah . . . nope.

https://youtu.be/sYP68KkbBIk



Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (2K6fY)

320 My sister in law(brothers wife) invited my other sis in law (hubby's sister) over to spend the night last night so they could get up early and watch the wedding. First sis in law forgot to wake up second sis in law and second sis in law got in her face and yelled at her for not waking her up. I don't think she will ever do that again.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (dUJdY)

321 Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:04 PM (dUJdY)

I think she;'s knows she's fat which is why she disguises it with Mao jackets. She wouldn't look good in a dress above her knees so what would look good?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (vw6r3)

322 I like dead beaver.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 19, 2018 07:06 PM (uSurQ)




Theodore Cleaver: I like dead Jello pudding spokesmen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (SiINZ)

323 SHUT UP




HOCKEY'S ON

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (e7oj4)

324 Hey lin-duh, you could release Dillion somewhere in WeaselAcres. He could be a free-range gecko!!

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (0ReGO)

325 >>>Paybacks a bitch at May 19, 2018 06:23 PM

Uh, no.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (RfzVr)

326 I can see getting up early for a gun show or farm implement auction, but for a royal wedding?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

327 Breitbart has a write up about Markle's wedding fashion.

hint: they did not like it.



Breitbart doesn't like Markle's politics. She's anti-Trump, anti-Brexit, and then all the other celebrity talking point crap. Royalty is suppose to zip it on that stuff though. So, we will see how that goes.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (w45mR)

328
I feel the same way about wood that Michelangelo felt about marble. It speaks to you

Wood speaks to me

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (IqV8l)

329 Are we doing 'beaver' again?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


It is Stupid Saturday again?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (LNPd9)

330 nood movie

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (KfVRF)

331 Are we doing 'beaver' again?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 19, 2018 07:06 PM (xJa6I)


I don't think I can physically do that again this soon.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (y87Qq)

332 Are we doing 'beaver' again?

Did we ever stop ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (um4Es)

333 267--- Sparkle's reception dress was much nicer than her wedding dress. She really shouldn't have worn a white wedding dress, it was tacky. Even if she were a virgin getting married for the first time...she is too old to wear white. a beautiful off white or ivory would have suited her much better. She does seem to wear lots of white.......
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 06:47 PM (kufk0)
---------------------------------
She looks good in true white and probably doesn't look so good in the ivory shades.

I personally don't think a big, fancy wedding with a traditional veil and long dress is appropriate for a second wedding, whatever shade of white is chosen.

But then, this is Harry's first. I dunno.

Can you imagine the outcry if the queen had insisted on a more low-key, informal ceremony?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (0jtPF)

334 First sis in law forgot to wake up second sis in law and second sis in law got in her face and yelled at her for not waking her up. I don't think she will ever do that again.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (dUJdY)


How do you forget to wake someone else when the two planned to watch something on TV together? The fact that one is not sitting next to the other watching the TV they both planned to watch seems like a little clue to go wake her up.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:10 PM (uSurQ)

335 My last trip two trips to WeaselAcres I've seen lizards about 6 inches long running around in the pine straw. I looked them up ant think they're some kind of skink. Not sure how skinks and lizards are different but apparently they are.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

336
Royal Wedding? Meh. Not my Royal Family. I didn't vote for them
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2018 06:58 PM



And more than 10 miles from my home

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (EzdLW)

337 Breitbart doesn't like Markle's politics. She's anti-Trump, anti-Brexit, and then all the other celebrity talking point crap. Royalty is suppose to zip it on that stuff though.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:08 PM (w45mR)


I don't know. The British royal scumbags were all pro-barky, even after he and Lt, Worf manhandled them and made a mockery of their customs in their own house.

As far as I'm concerned the Revolution would have been that much better if we had sacked London.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:13 PM (uSurQ)

338 http://bit.ly/2IwSzeB
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Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 07:13 PM (y3aQB)

339 Posted by: Jewells45 at May 19, 2018 07:07 PM (dUJdY)


That SIL story is hilarious.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 07:13 PM (w45mR)

340 6 is better, no?
1.Rfe1 Qd7
2.Rxd7 Kxd7
3.Qxe7+ Kc6
4.Re6+ Kb5
5.Qc5+ Ka4
6.Qa5#
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)


Missed it. Yours is indeed better. Congrats.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at May 19, 2018 07:16 PM (KfVRF)

341 Tyne Daly (sp?) looked pretty good in Judging Amy IMO. I think the first rule for any woman looking good is wear a smile so Shrillary was and is doomed and same with Michelle 90% of the time. Shillary chose to hook herself to Bill and be the evil lawyer smearing his conquests and assault victims.

I never got why Michelle seems so sour so much of the time, Barry adored her and the girls and she got tons of press adoration and free rein to gad about anywhere she wanted to, WTH reason did she have to look/be so grumpy, even if Barry is a hapless nerd who couldn't figure out gate/umbrella combos. And I don't need to hear about "just Barry's beard" Might be true but if so Barry adored her for being the cover and for being mom to the kids. That was his only decent feature IMO.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (84F5k)

342 How do you forget to wake someone else when the two planned to watch something on TV together? The fact that one is not sitting next to the other watching the TV they both planned to watch seems like a little clue to go wake her up.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May




or, how does an adult need someone else to wake them up to watch a stupid wedding? what is the definition or "wake up"? nudge them once or drag them out of bed over their protestations?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (MTjB1)

343 337
I don't know. The British royal scumbags were all pro-barky, even after he and Lt, Worf manhandled them and made a mockery of their customs in their own house.

As far as I'm concerned the Revolution would have been that much better if we had sacked London.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 07:13 PM (uSurQ)


Yeah, I used to give England the benefit of the doubt, but no more. They have surrendered to Islam and treat their own people like criminals if they dare object. Fuck 'em. They've made their bed; let them lie in it.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

344 Not sure how skinks and lizards are different but apparently they are.

Are the blue or brown? They can get pretty big and will bite you hard. Trust me it hurts.

Posted by: f'd at May 19, 2018 07:28 PM (UdKB7)

345 Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 07:22 PM (84F5k)

Yes, a smile goes along way as does avoiding a perpetual air of entitlement. I never think negatively about the outfits of the heavier woman in my congregation because i love them all. they look fine to me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (vw6r3)

346 Not sure how skinks and lizards are different but apparently they are.

Are the blue or brown? They can get pretty big and will bite you hard. Trust me it hurts.
Posted by: f'd at May




skinks are allowed to marry members of the royal family while lizards only sire their illegitimate red headed children.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 19, 2018 07:29 PM (MTjB1)

347 Breitbart's fashion critique of Markle's dress was awash in fashion whys and wherefores, supporting their overall pan of the dress. wasn't an empty kneejerk at all.

totally an enjoyable read, if you like fashion.

Posted by: booknlass at May 19, 2018 07:30 PM (uJ09Y)

348 She looks good in true white and probably doesn't look so good in the ivory shades.

I personally don't think a big, fancy wedding with a traditional veil and long dress is appropriate for a second wedding, whatever shade of white is chosen.

But then, this is Harry's first. I dunno.

Can you imagine the outcry if the queen had insisted on a more low-key, informal ceremony?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (0jtPF)

I liked the idea of the dress having little adornment, lace and ribbons and bows would have looked ridiculous on a 36 year old divorced woman. IMO, the veil was ridiculous. That dress would have looked fabulous with a hat and short veil. I know they wanted to incorporate Queen Mary's diamond tiara, which was pretty much obscured by all the tulle.

by the way, the commentators on PBS(that is the channel I watched this on, as it had no commercials and no obnoxious Anderson Cooper and posse all commenting and joking, etc.) noted that Harry wore the uniform of the Blues or some such thing, which was several stations down from where he finished his Army career. They said he could have worn the higher up uniform with it's insignia, medals, awards, etc. but he wanted to show where he was most at home.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 07:30 PM (7Ozit)

349 I am hardly a fashion maven, but I think Hillary could choose more colors that are flattering to her complexion and hair color too

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:32 PM (vw6r3)

350 I think Hillary got a lot of her clothes given to her possibly for future financial favors.(certainly wasn't to make the label look good). Since she wears the same Mao pantsuit all the time, it didn't take much to keep tossing the same thing at her door.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 07:37 PM (7Ozit)

351 That hideous dress that Pippa worn that looked like a can of Arizona Ice tea...shudders. Her boobs also look really low, I mean really. Wear a better bra and pretty dress for that much money!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (kufk0)

352 Or borrow a tent from Barnum & Bailey.

They're on clearance since the circus closed.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (brIR5)

353 The worst Hillary outdfit was that green caftan thing which had some kind of triangle design on it, I think, where she looked like she just rolled out of bed.

The best-I don't know,

But you're probably right about the outfits being given to her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:39 PM (vw6r3)

354 That hideous dress that Pippa worn that looked like a can of Arizona Ice tea...shudders. Her boobs also look really low, I mean really. Wear a better bra and pretty dress for that much money!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (kufk0)

PBS commentators said the invitations requested a hat and a "day dress". They added that because of the religious ceremony in a church, that meant no bare shoulders, sleeveless was ok, but not encouraged, and hats were required.

I was surprised Breitbart thought Beckham's dress was great. Why would you wear a black dress to a noon wedding in May?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (7Ozit)

355 Also, since I'm indulging in cattiness, both Eugenie and her sister are, um, chubby.
On the other hand, the brief view I had of Sarah Ferguson showed her looking good, no real pudge, and was dressed stylish and conservative. Something she has not previously been known for.

I was amazed that Prince Philip was able to walk into the church and to his seat.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 07:45 PM (7Ozit)

356 This made me laugh-worst Hillary outfits:

https://tinyurl.com/ya5qumfn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:46 PM (vw6r3)

357 No; I think this is the worst-leftists and conservatives agreed. It looked like bed jacket and pajamas gone bad :

https://tinyurl.com/ybh5y8m3

God grief, I'm catty. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:48 PM (vw6r3)

358 358-meant "Good grief"

I don't think I'd care so much is she were a kindly and charitable person.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:49 PM (vw6r3)

359 Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 07:43 PM (7Ozit)

Someone aid it was navy blue, but I didn't like it either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:50 PM (vw6r3)

360 IMO, I personally think that the best, most beautiful wedding dress I've seen on a royal was Queen Rania of Jordon.
If you google Queen Rania, wedding dress, it will come up. She is breathtakingly beautiful, in that she is equal to Melania in looks and fashion and has the same kindness, concern for others and charity.

Her personal website.
https://www.queenrania.jo/en/rania

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 08:00 PM (7Ozit)

361 Thanks, Jen. That is a very pretty wedding dress.

And I laughed that people compared Piippa's dress to the Arizona iced tea bottle

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 08:05 PM (vw6r3)

362 Fen, that dress does have the exact cherry tree floral branch on the cans of tea.

LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2018 08:10 PM (7Ozit)

363 Nice to chat with you, Jen. Now I have to leave having had fun discussing fashion with you, which I know nothing about. because I've now easily made it to the frequent poster Hall of Shame. ;^)

God bless.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 08:14 PM (vw6r3)

364 Donald J. Trump
If the FBI or DOJ was infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign, that is a really big deal. Only the release or review of documents that the House Intelligence Committee (also, Senate Judiciary) is asking for can give the conclusive answers. Drain the Swamp!

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 08:41 PM (y3aQB)

365 Spock only acts like this after he's smoked some of that Vulcan Death Moss and eaten half a Romulan Cheeto pie.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 09:15 PM (J7XgW)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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Good afternoon. Welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Sit back and relax!

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A Little of This. A Little of That.

An amazing feat.

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What a cute cop!


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A Moron's Story

I had a paper route as a 10yr old in the 70's (so, no pics). It was mostly older people who all seemed to have a dog in the house. There were three I still remember.


First up, the evil one and the only one on my entire route that I didn't like- It was a Chihuahua named Pancho who defined the phrase "ankle biter". He might have got "punted" once. )


Then there was "Snuffy"- a Scotch Terrier who initially would jump all over me when "collecting" until I trained him to wait until "business" was done (His owner found her purse). I would just snap my fingers and point- and he would sit there until I got paid- then he got a little time with me.


The most awesome was a Jack Russell named Doc who lived in a house with a 75 foot setback where all you had to do was ring your bicycle bell. He'd bust through the doggie door and fly down the hill. But, if you tried to just hand him the paper, he would turn his head. You had to get off your bike and pet him a couple times and tell him he was a "good doggie". Then he would fly back up the hill with the paper in his mouth. Dogs can be great sometimes.


"Lurker" Scott


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Hey Mis Hum,

I'm not much of a bird lover, but I thought this video was pretty hilarious.

One of these days I will send some pictures of our two wild and crazy Golden Retrievers. My wife and I are big fans of the pet thread.

Bob - a deplorable lurker in Tennessee

Thank Bob, that deplorable lurker for this Funny video.


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Meet The Pet Morons

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When I finally got the nerve to send in my library photo, I had such good luck with it, I thought I should go ahead and send in pet photos. Use one or both or neither, as you deem fit.

FIRST photo: The late, great Coco the Psycho Cat. She was crazy as a loon, but it didn’t matter. She was so beautiful, she had no reason to be normal.

SECOND PHOTO: Our two current cats. On the right is King Tut, who we rescued from the local Cat Haven shelter after his owner turned him in. I cannot understand why anyone would turn him in, this is the friendliest, most lovable, HUGE cat. On the left is Leffe. We took him in from our niece, when we all realized that both Tut and Leffe were bored being only cats, and they needed cat company. Tut and Leffe bonded within a day, and like to play hide & seek then jump and pounce with each other, when they aren’t napping. - Fran

Thank you for going through your photos and submitting these for the Horde. They look like happy critters. It's obvious you're a "good human".


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Companion to Sir Calvin, definitely some Maine Coon cat but born of a barn cat. Plays fetch, offended by bathroom rugs.-Len

Looks fluffy and fun!

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This is my Chihuahua, Caya. I've been been a lurker and occasional commenter since 2005 and Caya entered my life in 2009. Ace and Caya have been the only constants in my life for many years and have sustained me through some tough times. Caya was abused before I got her so she's very wary of anyone but me. I believe her motto is "All mama, all the time". She's happiest with what I call The Trifecta - on the couch, on my lap, wrapped in her blanket. - IAjewels

Wow. Quite the life Caya has. Every dog deserves their own blanket. Thanks for the submission.

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I'm sending a two pictures of my first, sweet pups. Their names are Eppie Sue and Pablo. Eppie Sue is the one with the sweet smile and Pablo is the one who looks like he's afraid we're up to something. I'm afraid he's right. I took this picture on our move from Arkansas to Connecticut. They were terrific car riders.

Eppie Sue was my first, and best, dog. I found her outside my apartment when she was a puppy, but couldn't keep her. A friend took her to the animal shelter where no one adopted her and she was set to be euthanized. They called me the day before her time was up and I happily agreed to adopt her. We moved into our first house a few weeks later. Eppie Sue was very shy, but once she warmed up to a person, she would be your friend forever. If you were ever mean to her, she'd remember that too. She could keep a grudge longer than anyone.

I decided Eppie needed a friend after watching her play with Pablo, who was a friend's foster dog. After babysitting Pablo for a weekend, I decided to keep him. He was a also very shy, but incredibly smart. Together, they slowly grew a little less weary of people.

Eppie and Pablo were the best friends. One February, I let them out. I didn't realize that their wireless fence wasn't working. By the time I realized it, they were gone. We searched and searched, but could not find them. Three weeks later, I heard a little whining at the front door, and Eppie Sue was sitting there looking through the window. The second picture is of her sleeping after she got home. She was very thin and needed surgery to help her walk normally again. She did not bring Pablo back with her though. If she could have, I am sure she would have.

We adopted another dog after Pablo, but Eppie just tolerated him. Eppie Sue moved with me seven times and lived for about 13 years. The last three were bonus years. She passed away in April of 2017. I miss them very much and I'll always wonder what happened to them on their "adventure." - Heather

What a cute pair. Sorry to hear they are no longer with you. We appreciate the photos and the story.

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What a fine bunch of pets this week. Thank you so much for taking the time to send in a story and their photos.

Do you have an animal story? Have a photo or two you would like to share with us? Well you can reach us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Have a great week.

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1 First on a Pet thread? I don't even have a pet...

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 19, 2018 02:58 PM (3JQ/p)

2 yay pet morons!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 03:00 PM (hMwEB)

3 Hello to all Pet Morons and their owners! I need advice about introducing a 4th cat into a 3-cat household.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (iTpm7)

4 rainy day
hubby and kte put mr dog on the treadmill

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (hMwEB)

5
Then get one!!!

Great Pet Thread, as usual, MisHum. Think you can take a video?

God bless all the Moron Pets and God bless their loving, if sometimes exasperated owners.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 03:02 PM (MVcof)

6 poser!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 03:02 PM (kufk0)

7 I was scheduled to have my old cat, Jack, put down on Thursday. I just couldn't do it yet. He's not paralyzed but he's lost use of his back legs and losing some function on the front legs. The vet thought it could be bone spurs. I will probably take him in next week and see what the vet thinks. His appetite is good and kidney function is fine. He's incontinent so lots of extra work for me. I know he will hit the point where it really is time for him to go, but I wanted him around for awhile longer. He is the best cat I've ever had.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:04 PM (Lqy/e)

8 Used to have a couple cats, including a diabetic kitty that need insulin shots twice a day. Too busy for pets at the moment; seems like we're hardly ever home. Wouldn't be fair to them.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 19, 2018 03:05 PM (3JQ/p)

9 "He's just friendly."

Which is dog owner-speak for "poorly trained".

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 19, 2018 03:06 PM (3eV0J)

10
I know he will hit the point where it really is time for him to go, but I wanted him around for awhile longer. He is the best cat I've ever had.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:04 PM (Lqy/e)


Very sorry you're facing this. We call it "the last act of love."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 03:07 PM (MVcof)

11 "I don't even have a pet..."

Get several!
You won't regret it.
I am sitting here and my cat Dexter comes to me without calling him, sits next to me starts purring his head off.
It's wonderful.

The shelters are full of potential loving companions.

Posted by: navybrat, chillin' and thrillin' at May 19, 2018 03:07 PM (w7KSn)

12 Miley,

Is the 4th cat a kitten or full grown?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:07 PM (Lqy/e)

13 Rainy, soggy day here. Got my geriatric gray tabby huddled close to me as we watch movies. She is 19, and aside from no longer being able to jump onto the couch, she is doing just fine. We may end up bequeathing her to my older son, as she might outlive us.

Her calico "sister" is approaching 17 years, and she is not doing as well. Still eats, and purrs, but she has lost weight and sleeps a lot. She is not sick, per se, just old.

then there's Scout, a black half-Persian who is 13, but still tear-asses around the house like a kitten.

I am fond of my fur babies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 19, 2018 03:09 PM (Mkuv2)

14 Mmmm mmmm mmmm! The Food Thread!

Posted by: Barky H. Obama at May 19, 2018 03:10 PM (b1bLJ)

15 As always, somebody had better adopt me because they have nicer lives.

Granddog here this weekend and she is especially working her 'cute' factor because 'auntie' is home. Dog is having problems sharing his girl. Cat still growls at granddog -- that will probably never be resolved.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 03:10 PM (MIKMs)

16 I'm trying to make the decision on Jack about what's right for him. We are trying Metacam for pain and it seemed like he was a bit more mobile on Thursday, which is why I called it off. I suspect it's cancer. He has a large fatty tumor on one side. This started about two months ago and is slowly getting worse. He's an old cat that sleeps most of the day, so this is no different. I picked up a gel pad for him and I've found it's pretty easy to bathe a partially paralyzed cat. So we'll see how it goes for a few more weeks. We'll be selling this house in a month or so and I don't think he's in any shape for a move.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:13 PM (Lqy/e)

17 Pet Thread!!! Great looking group this week!
IAjewels - Caya sounds just like WeaselDog!!!

WeaselGuppy went to live on a farm in the country this week. Just came back from the pet store with four little minnow looking guys and a snail. I wanted a little shark but our tank is too small, These guys are swimming around checking out their new crib. Their names are WeaselFish I - IV.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:13 PM (MVjcR)

18 3 Hello to all Pet Morons and their owners! I need advice about introducing a 4th cat into a 3-cat household.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (iTpm7)

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Tie a pork chop around her neck.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 19, 2018 03:14 PM (pvjTE)

19 Miley,



Is the 4th cat a kitten or full grown?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:07 PM (Lqy/e)

She's 10. The three other cats are 17, 12 and 10 (or something like that). Her biggest problem seems to be with Tank (the last one acquired by my brother and his wife). She seems to be the aggressor, not Tank. But maybe he's giving her the kitty evil eye. I don't know.
She chased him off the deck last night. As in, he jumped off the side. This is so not cool.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:14 PM (iTpm7)

20 Nice pets Ya'll!

Great story Scott....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 03:15 PM (EoRCO)

21
Her Majesty, Finn and Delilah have taken off for the Borzoi Club of America National Specialty in Richland, Washington. Four days driving each way.

Delilah is entered in the Bred by Exhibitor class and Finn is in Best of Breed. The two of them together are entered in Brace competition. I have a nice video of them at handling class so folks can see how it looks, how difficult it is to do and how well Her Majesty has trained them.

From the top-winning purebred to the muttiest mutt, God love our Moron dogs, every one of them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 03:15 PM (MVcof)

22 3 Hello to all Pet Morons and their owners! I need advice about introducing a 4th cat into a 3-cat household.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (iTpm7)
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The universal advice I've heard is to keep the new kitty in a closed room and let the others smell him or her through the door. After a day or so try some limited introductions through a baby gate.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:16 PM (MVjcR)

23 Wow a little dusty in here reading about Eppie Sue and Pablo. Sorry for your loss Heather, we never have the best ones long enough, even if we get bonus years beyond expected breed life span.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 03:17 PM (84F5k)

24 dunno about cats
with dogs they sometimes suggest just keeping them apart for a couple of weeks until they get used to a new critter being around

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 03:17 PM (hMwEB)

25 Put the new cat in a cat carrier, then introduce it to the new cats.
If a fur ball is going to happen, you'll know, and the new kitty will be safe.

Posted by: navybrat, chillin' and thrillin' at May 19, 2018 03:17 PM (w7KSn)

26 I like to have a new cat in a crate. I put the crate in the room with the other cats, so they can smell each other. That gives you a chance to see which cat is the most upset. Give them as much time as they need. When I uncrate the new cat, I try to make sure it still has a safe place to hide in. It usually goes pretty smoothly.

Feliway can help with introducing them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:17 PM (Lqy/e)

27 Welcome IAjewels, what a cutie Caya is.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 03:18 PM (84F5k)

28 My parents told me that even numbers of kids or animals were easier because nobody was left out. Kids (little animals) would unite against authority but would not kill the outsider (the proverbial 'third wheel'). According to their wisdom, two cats and one dog/two dogs and one cat = okay. Species solidarity and nobody is really hurt. I like the one dog/one cat combo because they cooperate to flummox the owner and they are so darned funny.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 03:19 PM (MIKMs)

29 Hello to all Pet Morons and their owners! I need advice about introducing a 4th cat into a 3-cat household.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (iTpm7)


Physicists have postulated a 4th cat, but there's no evidence yet that there is such a thing.

Seriously, I have no idea how cats even work. There was one I tried to introduce years ago by scrupulously following all the rules and swapping the upstairs/downstairs cats and cross-pollenating the litter boxes and using scent masker spray so they'd slowly get used to each others' scent. After a month and a half, I opened the doors and the one upstairs spent the entire day in a corner crapping herself because she was to scared or haughty to move three feet to the litter box in the same room. Then, years later, I introduced two other cats who had never met each other via the expedient of opening the carrier on the living room floor and this is them shortly after, and ever since:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GJMhURnUI

So clearly I have no idea how to operate a cat.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 03:19 PM (y87Qq)

30 Hi Fran, love that description of Coco, so cute she had no need to be normal. Tut and Leffe are a handsome duo, what wonderful pet parents to realize they didn't want to be solo cats. Course now your niece needs to adopt a pair of kittens or something.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 03:21 PM (84F5k)

31 Your "president" think that these pets are animals!

Posted by: CNN at May 19, 2018 03:21 PM (/qEW2)

32 The universal advice I've heard is to keep the new
kitty in a closed room and let the others smell him or her through the
door. After a day or so try some limited introductions through a baby
gate.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:16 PM (MVjcR)

We've been here for 3 weeks. She knows her safe space, my room downstairs. For the fist week or so, I kept her down there (well, kept the other cats away from her, since she was mostly hiding under the bed). She now comes upstairs and creeps around. Not too much going on with the other 2 kitties, who keep to their own spaces. My Harli is the growling, hissing beeyotch, for the most part.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:23 PM (iTpm7)

33 Love your handsome Maine coon mix Len, and how fun to have a cat what plays fetch. Boots will sometimes play some bottle lid hockey but I've never had a cat that did fetch.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 03:23 PM (84F5k)

34
So clearly I have no idea how to operate a cat.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 03:19 PM (y87Qq)


In Feline America, cat operate you!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 03:24 PM (MVcof)

35 Hello to all Pet Morons and their owners! I need advice about introducing a 4th cat into a 3-cat household.

Keep the new one locked in a bathroom for a week- don't let them see each other- so everybody gets used to the smells and activity. When the cats start playing with each other underneath the door (you know, paws sticking thru), then they've pretty much adjusted.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2018 03:24 PM (QxXRY)

36 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:23 PM (iTpm7)
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As long as they're not fighting then it sounds like it's going pretty well.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:25 PM (MVjcR)

37 My dogs have asked me to mention they hate rainy days. Just in case any of the weather operators are around.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 19, 2018 03:26 PM (rBnYq)

38 Had one ankle-biter literally foot pushed into the front hall closet by customer lady every collection week. Fled uphill from loose St. Bernard one time.

Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2018 03:27 PM (FhXTo)

39 Hogmartin, I had a pair of catboys who were like that. Yin and Yang, just love at first sight.

Harli has been an only cat since her mother died 5 years ago. She's not very well-socialized. I'm hoping she relaxes at some point so they can live in uneasy harmony, at least.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:27 PM (iTpm7)

40 >>>An amazing feat.

Ugh. Family's name is Becerra. Wonder if they're related to that asshole in CA.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 03:28 PM (/qEW2)

41 As usual, the pet morons are characters. The Pawciffer Donut is so cute napping by her badge. But that link of the birds is F'ing hilarious. I thought one of them was going to hold a sign: "Good beat. Easy to dance to. I give it an 86."

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 03:30 PM (V+03K)

42 Fled uphill from loose St. Bernard one time.
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Family in the neighborhood growing up had a boxer who was a relatively nice dog, but he jumped. Neighborhood response from kids was to climb up our swingset to stay away from the 'big' dog. Heh. Just a few years later, parents decided that German Shepherds were the way to go. Kids didn't worry -- the parents did.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 03:33 PM (MIKMs)

43 Hadrian, Best of luck to Finn and Delilah and may they all have a safe journey.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2018 03:33 PM (CdA/y)

44 >>>FIRST photo: The late, great Coco the Psycho Cat. She was crazy as a loon, but it didn't matter. She was so beautiful, she had no reason to be normal.

I had a psy-calico as well. I wonder if being a calico is like being a redhead in humans.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 03:33 PM (/qEW2)

45 No advice on the cats that don't want to mix with each other. When we brought Tommy home he lived downstairs for a while to get used to the new place w/o the dog or Boots. Now I have a baby gate on the stairs so that Boots can have his safe space upstairs (3 level house) because it seemed like he was just NOT ever going to stand up to Tommy when Tommy would growl and chase Boots, even though there was never any real fighting. Last summer Boots spent two months outside 24/7 and while dad caught glimpses I thought dad was mistaking neighbors similar size and color cat. So I'm OK with Boots not wanting to come downstairs where the exit doors are as long as he is not miserably bored.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 03:34 PM (84F5k)

46 The thing to watch for are abcesses, after a fight. The longer they go without a major fight, the better off you are.

We wound up with an older cat. It was born here but disappeared after the fire in 2006. It was a couple of streets down, just living in the neighborhood. A woman there took it in to the vets and they found the microchip. We had to work it in with all the other cats (maybe six or seven at that time). It had a couple of good years and then died from cancer. They don't seem to become buddies like cats that are raised as kittens

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:38 PM (Lqy/e)

47 Got a text photo from Mrs. D. during a break on this morning's motorcycle ride. The dog put his large teeth to use on 3 of our chairs; specifically, on the wooden arms and backs. Thought I was going to come home to blood and she'll casings on the floor, but she kept herself in check.

I wish I could tell the dog "Look, you can chew on any number of things, but if you destroy mom's new furniture I can't protect you."

Posted by: PabloD at May 19, 2018 03:40 PM (xA/TC)

48 I had a psy-calico as well. I wonder if being a calico is like being a redhead in humans.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 03:33 PM (/qEW2)

I should perhaps have mentioned that beeyotch Fourth Cat is a calico...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:41 PM (iTpm7)

49 We have moles tunneling in our back yard and Pepper the mini longhair dutch hound digs HUGE trenches looking for them. Occasionally she gets one. Her bravest and most foolhardy feat has to bite a raccoon in the ass while said raccoon was trying to get out of the cart room via the cat door. She is 8.5 pounds of dynamite.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 03:45 PM (zLDYs)

50 I have a reverse brindle fb. He is very handsome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 03:45 PM (PUmDY)

51 Lurker Scott:
Great story! Thank you.

Posted by: m at May 19, 2018 03:45 PM (0bRDi)

52 My oldest cat, who I am trying to type "around" as I.. eh, type, is trying to prevent me from telling you all about his younger brother.

The youngest is the only cat I have that plays fetch! He confiscated a dish (bottle) brush, which has bristles, a furry top, and a long wire handle. It became his, and so therefore, no longer useful as a kitchen tool. So I got another one. He confiscated that one too.

Long story short, when he insists on it... and yes ye does insist, I am required to throw it as far as I can. He dashes after it, jumping over, under, and through whatever, to retrieve it, and come bounding back. He drops it and waits. I would say he never tires of this game, because often I have to tell him we have to stop, which he barely tolerates, but on a few occasions, he tired out before I did.

There are not many things more adorable to me in this world, than watching him bound back to me with that brush in his mouth, all proud of himself.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 03:46 PM (cY3LT)

53 >>>>>> One February, I let them out. I didn't realize that their wireless
fence wasn't working. By the time I realized it, they were gone.
...We had a Miniature Scottie named Speck who was the master at defeating those invisible fences.

He would sit for hours in the one beep warning zone and wait for the battery to die, as soon as it quit beeping he went through the fence as fast as he could. It took us literally months to figure out what was going on. I would look out the window and see him running up the street or in the neighbors yard days after we put a fresh battery in his collar.

We kept going back to the fence company and asking for good batteries because we though they weren't fully charged when we got them in the mail from them. Back then there were specialty batteries for the collars, not sure if it still that way. They doubled our order but it still wasn't enough.

I finally watched him for a very long time one day out the window and when he thought I wasn't watching anymore he wandered over to the one beep zone and sat there for quite some time. I heard the collar beep once every 30-45 seconds and finally figured what he was doing.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2018 03:47 PM (+Dllb)

54 Oh, and gotta share this video - "Cat scold translated"

https://tinyurl.com/y7pkcxob

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:47 PM (iTpm7)

55 I could give dog advice until the cows come home, but as hogmartin said: "I have no idea how to operate cats."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 19, 2018 03:48 PM (Ckg4U)

56
She is 8.5 pounds of dynamite.

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 03:45 PM (zLDYs)


Dachsies: more guts than sense. The tin-can sailors of the canine fleet.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 03:48 PM (e0kGN)

57 Their names are WeaselFish I - IV.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:13 PM (MVjcR)


So "I", "Aye-Aye", "Ayayay", and Ivy?

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 19, 2018 03:49 PM (n9EOP)

58 I like how cnn is acting like this 2 bit actress is a progressive icon.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 03:50 PM (PUmDY)

59 Pigs will do that with electric fence. They test it a couple of times a day, just to see if it's on. If grass or weeds grow up around the fence, it can short it out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:54 PM (Lqy/e)

60 That was a funny video which Bob sent in. The other cockatoo (without the funny dance and fluffing his head feathers)i looks like he's saying "Where did you get this weirdo? I'm not crazy about this rendition of Elvis and I'd like to change my seat."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 03:55 PM (vw6r3)

61 8 03:13 PM (MVjcR)

So "I", "Aye-Aye", "Ayayay", and Ivy?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 19, 2018 03:49 PM (n9EOP)
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Right!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 03:57 PM (MVjcR)

62 We spent a lot of time and money to install one for the rottie because people seemed to get upset about her (silly me, I thought they were darned near bred for kids). She came to close to the tv inside the house and got a shock so that was the end for her. Tried again with the wild black lab -- he ignored all of it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 03:57 PM (MIKMs)

63 7 my old cat, Jack
He is the best cat I've ever had.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 03:04 PM (Lqy/e)

Bless you, Notsothoreau. Good luck.

Posted by: m at May 19, 2018 03:57 PM (0bRDi)

64 Thanks, Lurker Scott. That is a great story.

I also loved the pet photos. I also think it's a really nice effect with the purple coloring around King Tut and Jeffe.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 03:58 PM (vw6r3)

65 "Oh, and gotta share this video - "Cat scold translated"
https://tinyurl.com/y7pkcxob
"
-Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:47 PM (iTpm7)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 19, 2018 03:59 PM (Ckg4U)

66 I could give dog advice until the cows come home, but as hogmartin said: "I have no idea how to operate cats."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 19, 2018 03:48 PM (Ckg4U)


See, that's your problem right there. Thinking you could, would, or should "operate" the cat.

The cat knows better. So should you.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 04:00 PM (cY3LT)

67 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 03:33 PM (/qEW2)

We had a calico, but not as fluffy as that one. I think someone just abandoned her because she seemed too friendly to be stray. She came to us during a blizzard when i was serving my first church. If the door of the church was open she'd often walk in and come down thew aisle. She also liked attending church meetings that I was even too crazy about going to. I often thought about putting her on the membership list, because with the name Cleo and my husband's last name who at my denominational office would have known she wasn't human?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 04:03 PM (vw6r3)

68 Mayer has made me like They Love Each Other.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 04:04 PM (PUmDY)

69 Pet Thread! Just want to send a shout out to Rusty the Rooster from the live Lava cam. Keep crowing, boy!

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 04:07 PM (EzdLW)

70 Lurker Scott, thanks for sharing the newspaper boy story and deplorable lurker Bob, that was funny. Especially toward the end when he really gets going. LOL!

Coco is absolutely gorgeous and I want to know how you keep King Tut and Leffe to stay on the blanket that matches their fur color? My cats seem to hone in on anything with a contrasting color.

Sir Calvin looks quite regal. Love the extra fuzzy ears.

Caya is a little cutie.

Thanks for sharing Eppie Sue and Pablo's tale. She looks like she had a rough time while she was away from you. Glad she found her way back and now Pablo and Eppie are reunited.

Thanks MisHum and everyone who shares their photos and stories. I never miss this thread. Can't always comment, but always read.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 04:08 PM (RfzVr)

71 Perfect timing. Trying to lay a drip irrigation system prototype out on the dining table. Small connectors and tubing. huh. All the kitty help I could want.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 04:09 PM (aljs9)

72 Pet stuff comes up all week, so I just wanted to mention that individual small dogs can be wonderful (as long as they aren't underfoot at my house), but a neighbor had a literal pack of chihuahas (5+) who terrorized the neighborhood for a year or two.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 04:12 PM (MIKMs)

73 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GJMhURnUI

So clearly I have no idea how to operate a cat.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 03:19 PM (y87Qq)

Hahahahaha!

Posted by: m at May 19, 2018 04:12 PM (0bRDi)

74 My folks had the Steve Martin Cruel Shoes lp. I think King Tut was on it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 04:20 PM (PUmDY)

75 WeaselFish III seems to be aggressive. The others may need to kick his ass.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 04:21 PM (MVjcR)

76 I'm surrounded by 3 sleeping dogs. I'm letting them lie.

Major storm brewing here. My pit is scared to death of storms. He will be pacing back and forth soon.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 04:23 PM (Enq6K)

77 Did some blue strip irrigation in the past. It goes together like tinker toys. Little emitters from 1/4 gallon per hour up. Also ran small tubing from the mail line with an emitter on the tip.

Hooked a battery timer at the tap and let it go.

Have fun.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 04:23 PM (Bk0n1)

78 My all time favoritest pet was a calico named Coco. She was with us from when I was four to seventeen.

She was not longhair like the Coco above, but gorgeous. She got her name because my brother could not say "calico."

Posted by: logprof at May 19, 2018 04:23 PM (e7oj4)

79 >>>Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 04:03 PM (vw6r3)

Hah. Pious cat. But beware. It might be a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Always puzzled me that there are so few cat references in the Bible. The Egyptians had already domesticated cats by then to stop mice from eating their grain. You'd think they'd have been more widespread.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 04:23 PM (/qEW2)

80 Oh, and gotta share this video - "Cat scold translated"

https://tinyurl.com/y7pkcxob
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Some pussy-grabbers are more equal than others at May 19, 2018 03:47 PM (iTpm7)


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I think cats are the only species that can hate other members of the same species with the same intensity as humans. I once saw a kitten get petted by the woman who adopted him. When she walked away an older cat swatted him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 04:28 PM (/qEW2)

81 Just as hard with the weight of lead.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 04:29 PM (PUmDY)

82 Bob the deplorable lurker's bird video:
A must-see. And hang in there for the big finale!

Posted by: m at May 19, 2018 04:30 PM (0bRDi)

83 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 04:23 PM (/qEW2)

Alas, Cleo went over the rainbow bridge some time ago. I don't think she was a really young cat when she adopted us in 1994, but until she got sick always a very spry lady.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 04:32 PM (vw6r3)

84 That picture of Eppie sleeping melts my heart. Nothing cuter than a puppy with gangly legs all tucked in.

Dogs are the best people.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 04:34 PM (/tuJf)

85 Lovely pooches and moo-moo kitties. That video of Smokey and Remus the Lifeguard Dog is awesome. You know Remus is thinking, "Not on my watch, buddy."

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 04:39 PM (2NqXo)

86 blacked my eye and kicked my dog

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 04:39 PM (PUmDY)

87 I just broke a 3 year old orange tree. I thought I had just enough room to drop a small oak and I missed my spot by about 20 inches and landed on the Satsuma. I was just going to cut it off and see if it had enough life to sprout all new branches from the stump but Mrs928 insisted on splinting it back to see if it will mend.

I don't have high hopes for that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:42 PM (yQpMk)

88 dammit, wrong thread.

Well, I might as well post it in all three top threads.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

89 The reckless are out wrecking and the timid plea their pleas is fine songwriting.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 04:45 PM (PUmDY)

90 Notsothoreau - so sorry about Jack. I read about his problems a couple weeks ago and hoped he would improve. Jack being so young I'm sure makes you want to try everything you can. He knows he's loved by your attention to him and that is so wonderful.

My Biggie had similar problems, his inability to walk was sporadic, but getting worse (more than once a day). I was afraid to leave him alone 'cause he'd get up on a couch and then fall getting down or trip getting into his litterbox. But he was 19 years old when we finally had to let him go so we knew subjecting him to any fancy treatments too hard on him. Maybe he could have had a few more good days, but I was afraid of what could happen at night or while we were out. I didn't want him to die hurt or injured and alone. Was lucky to find a vet to come to the house so he was not scared.

Will keep you and Jack in my prayers.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 19, 2018 04:45 PM (RfzVr)

91 85 Lovely pooches and moo-moo kitties. That video of Smokey and Remus the Lifeguard Dog is awesome. You know Remus is thinking, "Not on my watch, buddy."

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 19, 2018 04:39 PM (2NqXo)

I think Remus is thinking, "C'mon... this way...watch me...the steps are over here stupid! Ohfergodssake...." Splash.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 04:48 PM (Enq6K)

92 Elephant seal males are obese, disgusting and force themselves on the females. This looks like rape to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0XwCB_6Kbc

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 04:50 PM (/qEW2)

93 Welp, cat #2 just ran to storage closet. Just thundered. She's my storm kitty.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 04:56 PM (Dhht7)

94 Garcia/Hunter were turning into songwriting giants

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:00 PM (PUmDY)

95 Nood chest thread in the future.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2018 05:02 PM (Dhht7)

96 They already were, but songs like Days and So Many Roads show they weren't slacking at the end.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:05 PM (PUmDY)

97 I think it was last week the photos didn't load for me. This thread always gives me a smile no matter what else is going on.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 05:16 PM (aC6Sd)

98 ...plungin' like stones from a slingshot on Mars.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 05:17 PM (RuIsu)

99 Even if PDT is exonerated, cnn will never stop.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (PUmDY)

100 I work from home, so I can find time to take care of Jack. We are going to be gone most of tomorrow though. I can't leave water for him as he needs to be held up to drink. I'll have make sure he gets a good drink in the morning and take care of him when I get back.

I have him up on the bed, but am going to set up a large wicker basket for him tomorrow. He should be okay. I gave him a bath this morning and he was not amused.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2018 05:33 PM (Lqy/e)

101 Just think for a second how crappy bimbo eruptions sound.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:48 PM (PUmDY)

102 I could never see Mwlania saying something like that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:52 PM (PUmDY)

103 Melania p

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 05:55 PM (PUmDY)

104 That was his "wife" classy

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 06:05 PM (PUmDY)

105 One of the problems of growing old: We pet lovers wind up having many "Eppie Sue" and "Pablo" type stories.

Thank you for the stories, always a pleasure to read in this dusty atmosphere.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 06:55 PM (WEBkv)

106 Beautiful pet morons... that was a sad story about Eppie Sue. I hope Pablo was found by some nice family and ate chicken and peanut butter all the rest of his days.

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2018 07:09 PM (XoAz8)

107 Even if PDT is exonerated, cnn will never stop.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlien
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Paraphrasing Dershowitz:

His mere being is such an offense to them that even innocence is unforgivable.

I hope he has a coterie of close friends that will stand with him over the years, because these SOB's are never going to let up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 07:51 PM (c/EDo)

Saturday Gardening Thread: A Moss Rose by Any Other Name . . . [KT]

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From Patch Farmstead:

A clone of this very old rose has been planted everywhere I've been. I don't know how old the mom plant is but older than me, was at my grandpa's house.

What a great way to preserve a legacy.

May Roses

It's traditional to think of "Roses" and "June" together, but no reason we can't start early. Around our town, the rose bushes that have died back to root stock have been red and gorgeous the past few weeks with their exuberant, once-blooming flowers, but are starting to fade. There may be some of the heirloom once-blooming roses in Southern California which have already bloomed this year. But most of the roses we plant today bloom more than once a year. Some of the tender ones start early. I think the one above may be one of those. Even though it is old.

Today, another lurker makes her debut on the Gardening Thread with a rose and some other plants down-thread a ways.

Heyo. I'm a lurker (NadineCharmichael). I love the gardening thread! I live in central Tennessee. It's hot here. Melty, don't step on the tar hot. And wet-carpet-even-with-the-air-conditioning-on humid. Also, the soil sucks. Unless you like clay, and then it's still sucky because even the clay is terrible quality. Our state crop is scrub and waving hills of beautiful tall wild grasses. But, we still plant and grow flowers and things because.

[This pic is of] roses from a bush in my front yard. Maybe knock-out roses? I don't know; it came with the house. Perhaps the Horde can identify... This bush also seems to thrive on miniscule water, clay soil, and neglect, with occasional deadheading.

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Anybody know what they are?

Moss Roses

Moss Roses are roses which are known as much for their sepals as for their blossoms. The sepals are covered with variable amounts of what to some people looks like moss. It is usually fragrant. The old ones only bloom once a year.

These roses come with a lot of history, and a lot of different names. The one below is know as Crested Moss, Rosa centifolia cristata or Chapeau du Napoleon.

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Or in Kansas, Napoleon's Hat.

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Moss roses are known for their abundant prickles. It may be better to get a small one that re-blooms. Ralph Moore bred some miniature moss roses in Visalia, California. I bought one once. The "moss" was kind of prickly, left perfume on my hands. I think it was Dresden Doll

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You can see that the "moss" on Dresden looks pricklier, even on the sepals, than the "moss" on Crested Moss. I don't understand all the genetics, but some of the "mossy" structures appear to be modified thorns. They excrete perfume, and will perfume your hand. You are likely to cradle the blossom in your hand because the stems are so prickly.

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The Moss Roses that Aren't Roses

I have sometimes wondered how little trailing succulent plants that prefer blazing sun came to be called "moss roses". These moss roses are among the few small flowering plants you can plant in the desert in May. They are related to the common weed Purslane (recipe for Puerto Vallarta Salsa at the link).

You may recall that purslane kept one Texan plant breeder alive during the cultural revolution in China. But he developed a dislike for it because it was about all his family had to eat. If you are interested because you have never been reduced to living on purslane while living in a cave, you can find more recipes from the Eat the Weeds guy at the link. (Don't comment on old threads). This is a photo of the weed you can eat, in moderation. It is sometimes called "pigweed", which may offer a clue to how to get it out of a field. Chickens like it, and it increases the amount of 0mega-3 fatty acids in their eggs:

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Purslane: enough is enough.

It turns out that Nadine, who sent that single rose photo above, also sent a photo of a relatively recently introduced moss rose (first seen in the 1980s) among other plants. The leaves look a lot like the leaves of common purslane, and it has been mistakenly called by the same species name in the nursery trade:

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Planters on my front porch. I did not grow these. I picked out the plants and potted them, though. The edges are lined with moss rose (the white flowers), Superbells (calibrachoa), and sweet potato vine. The center has some kind of very large marigold I'd never seen before but thought they looked really cool, and lantana. It's hot as blazes in the afternoon sun on my porch, so these guys will hold up to the heat (or so I've been told.)

I have a feeling that the moss roses will last longer than the marigolds.

Portulaca is the more common name, I think. I'd never heard of it until I stumbled across it on a gardening site. Lo and behold, my local nursery had acres of them in all different colors. I've found that this plant really hates any kind of shade. Even the ones I planted in the far side of the planters, that get slight shade from the other plants for just an hour or two, are growing up and around the other flowers towards the sun, rather than trailing over the edge of the planter pot. But the blooms are gorgeous , and the hotter it gets, the more it blooms. The leaves are starting to get a waxy look as they store up water for the drought season. Makes the flowers pop even more. Truly amazing.

Cheers!
NadineCharmichael

Here's a closeup of Toucan Scarlet Shades. This one is grown from seed, but will probably not breed true if you save seeds. And there is still some color variation. Note that this cultivar is still misidentified as the same species as edible purslane. Odd that no one has specifically come out and said whether or not this species is edible. Or tasty.

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A guy in Australia who studies Australian Portulaca species also took it upon himself to try to untangle the breeding of commercial P. umbraticola and to help correct some of the species mislabeling, which went international.

A paper which talks about the development of this first Portulaca umbraticola series . . . implies that the original plants used to produce the 'Wildfire' cultivars may have involved a smaller-flowered P. umbraticola subspecies that occurs naturally in the southeastern United States. However the 'Wildfire' series was most likely bred from plants originating in South America, because the flowers of the subspecies found there are much larger, with richer tones and have much greater colour diversity. It is reasonable to presume that the progenitors of the 'Wildfire' series were South American plants that were selectively grown by native plant enthusiasts in the US, who perhaps viewed them as showy and longer-lived "substitutes" for the two native subspecies of P. umbraticola. . . .

There are some interesting flower forms grown from cuttings. You can sometimes keep them over winter, on the dry side, in bright light, away from frost.

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The only moss roses I knew about growing up were Portulaca grandiflora. We had double ones growing in reflected heat in front of our chimney before the birch tree got big enough to provide some shade.

You can get old-fashioned single Portulaca grandiflora from the Seed Curmudgeon, J.L. Hudson, or a newer strain from Europe.

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But most P. grandiflora seeds sold today are for double flowers. The 'Sundial' strain was bred to stay open longer in the day, even after visits by bees. Newer strains have made the flower less daylength sensitive.

Back when breeders were introducing new separate colors in the 'Sundial' strain like 'Peppermint', 'Apricot' and 'Mango', most of my gardening activity consisted of reading seed catalogs. I started to wonder why flowers with such a wide color range were only offered as complete mixtures or as separate colors. I suggested to Park Seed that they might present some more distinctive mixtures. Suggested a couple of names. The results for the Sundial Portulaca strain are pictured below.

These two mixes have been dropped now, but they lasted a quarter century, more or less. You can still get a Tropical Mix (with scarlet, missing white) in an upright and a trailing strain of Portulaca from Harris Seeds. As well as complete color mixtures. They sell pelleted seeds for growers. You can also get some separate colors from Harris, Swallowtail and elsewhere. Breeders give these flowers fun names, like 'Happy Hour' and 'Coconut'.

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Tropical Fruit Mix and Passion Fruit Mix

The winter equivalent of moss roses (in coastal California)

As a child, I was struck by catalog photos of these bright flowers:

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Livingstone Daisies, I presume.

These little charmers are from South Africa, where they grow in the fall/winter rainy season. They are drought-tolerant, but look better with some water. These are planted in autumn or winter in Coastal California or in the desert or in Australia. Plant out after danger of frost elsewhere.

Livingstone daisies have flat, succulent leaves up to 3 inches long, with the plants hugging the ground. Flowers have dark centers and are colored pink, white, purple, lavender, crimson, or orange. Plants grow up to 8 inches high and spread to 12 inches wide. The flowers close at night and on cloudy days. . . .

Livingstone daisies need full sun and sandy, well-drained soil. They tolerate drought and are resistant to salt spray, making them good for seaside plantings. Livingstone daisies tend to sunburn in hot, humid weather. Space plants 6 inches apart for full coverage.

Think of them as an annual ice plant. They are fire-retardant if well-watered (until the plants die). I have seen spectacular sheets of these flowers at the UC Irvine Arboretum, which features South African plants. But I have also grown a few in the Intermountain West.

The tiny seeds need darkness to germinate, so should be lightly covered.

There is also a trailing variegated Dorotheathus that sometimes has small double red flowers, but is grown as a foliage plant. It seems to be more tolerant to heat. It is cutting-grown and apparently perennial in frost-free locations. Looks nice for containers or hanging baskets. "Mezoo" is an odd name. Hardly looks like the same plant as the daisies above.

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More information on Thornless Boysenberries and Thorns

Time to follow up on comments from previous threads.

Thornless Boysenberries

We have some fans of thornless boysenberry plants in The Horde. With good reason. Boysenberries are fabulous berries, and the thornless cultivar is the way to go if you can find it. Might be a little less productive than some, but were're mostly home gardeners, right?

I found a bunch o' short pieces on growing boysenberries, starting with pruning, which is a big deal unless you just plant to have a thicket. Remember that seedlings will probably have thorns.

Here is a recipe for a cake-like cobbler Not biscuit-y or pie-like. Written for blackberries, but perfect for boysenberries, which are related. It is pretty similar to the recipe Miss Hauser gave is in school, except that she heated the fruit with sugar. water and butter and spooned it over the cake batter. The fruit fell through the batter during baking. A memorable dessert warm with homemade vanilla ice cream. Just skip dinner.

She told us to remember that the recipe had no eggs, in case eggs were ever rationed again during wartime. The recipe at the link is also egg-gree. Wonder if the cornstarch is really necessary? Bet you could use other fruits, as with Miss Hauser's recipe.

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Rose Thorns and related hazards

I think we linked this piece on first aid for rose thorn punctures recently (h/t Hank Curmudgeon), but this article on infections from rose thorns made an impression on Gordon:

Pay quote:

"The finger and the tissues surrounding the tendons up his arm had become infected. During the operation, the doctor had to cut from the tip of his index finger to the middle forearm. Antibiotics were administered to fight the infection and two additional operations were performed during the following week.

Lots of articles on this.

Check out the recommendations at the end of the piece, too. Some of them we have discussed in previous threads, and some we haven't. Heh.

Gordon also said:

You know, when I got cellulitis in my leg, I was working in one of my beds, kneeling, wearing shorts. My wife is convinced I got a little cut and the whole mess grew out of that. I was in the hospital for ten days! I lost count of all of the residents who came to my bed and got a really wide-eyed look, then a really puzzled look, then a "huh! look.

Gardening is hazardous. Courage is required.

I have a couple of ideas for preventing these kinds of infections from kneeling in the garden. Got any tips for Gordon?

I have a tip for avoiding other thorn injuries, and perhaps an uncontrolled house fire: Try to avoid this style of landscaping, another hazard highlighted by the ever-vigilant Hank Curmudgeon. Those cacti are so cute when they're little . . . .

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Thorny Roses

There is one kind of rose grown specifically for its thorns, though it also has single white flowers. Particularly beautiful when back-lit.

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The Danger Garden has growing and landscaping tips for the Wingthorn Rose. And photos. The plant is really striking among other plants. Keep this one cut back. Even if your gardent theme includes plants that could put your eye out.

Here's a piece about other kinds of roses with big thorns. Some of these are wonderful in the landscape. If you are brave.

Gardens of The Horde

We got a note and a photo from Gordon:

The first harvest is rhubarb. I used the jam maker. It is milder than I would like but it was young rhubarb.

Fantastic! We have more from Gordon for later. And maybe from his wife, too.

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We also got an update from Blake, who lives in the Bakersfield, California area. We kind of agreed that Bakersfield averages about 10 degrees cooler than Phoenix in summer. Let us know if you have more exact figures.

Some interesting things about the Palo Verde Desert Museum:

The tree thrives in heat and drought. When I went to the nursery I asked if they had a tree that could take being planted in the middle of a bunch of concrete. The nursery recommended the Desert Museum and ours has really thrived, which I find amazing considering it's basically planted in the middle of a furnace during the summer. I water ours once a week but, they can go a month between waterings.

Also, the tree is deciduous, but, I think it also qualifies as evergreen.

Why?

Because the green bark contain chlorophyll and does the same job as the leaves. As a matter of fact, the green bark is part of the reason the tree is able to withstand summer temperatures in Arizona. (going from memory, the tree will drops its leaves when it gets to hot and survives as the bark takes over for the leaves.)

I got worried when our Desert Museum dropped all its leaves so late. It was already heading into spring and we suddenly had little spiky branches with no leaves. But, never fear, the tree put out a phenomenal amount of new growth.

It looks like our Desert Museum is going to bloom from one side to the other this year. Which means we won't get a tree full of yellow flowers but, it also means the tree will probably bloom much longer. Oh, and the flowers are every bit as delicate as they appear.

This particular specimen was planted a little over a year ago.

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Blake has gone Full Horde for this photo, apparently preparing for a wonderful backyard meal. Perhaps featuring Hrothgar's Easy Baked Onion on page 188 of your copy of the Deplorable Gourmet. It's still baking season in Bakersfield. Barely.

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And here's Blake's Desert Museum in full bloom a little later. You may recall that it is thought to be a cross-genera hybrid, so it doesn't make all those seed pods that are typical of Palo Verde trees.

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Hope you have a great weekend. Take a little time to enjoy some plants if you can.

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you just want to be a lurker.

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1 Whoa really?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 12:54 PM (aljs9)

2 Surf, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 12:55 PM (aljs9)

3 BTW some people here think the whole "first" thing is juvenile.

Losers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 12:56 PM (aljs9)

4 I read all the content, get to the bottom and there were no comments...coulda been first, damn!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 12:57 PM (kufk0)

5 So fbi inserted spy that helped create Russian story that got Dems and HRC to finance pee pee dossier

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2018 12:59 PM (0iZpe)

6 4
I read all the content, get to the bottom and there were no comments...coulda been first, damn!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 12:57 PM (kufk0)

That happened to me so we coulda been tie but some people dont read the comments caus they have to be first...ahem...surf. OK i just looked at the photos...ok on the way to be first. Still got screwed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 01:00 PM (aljs9)

7 Since I am anonymous, would first matter? And to whom? Other anonymous parties? Yeah, I guess it would matter after all.

Posted by: ro-man at May 19, 2018 01:00 PM (RuIsu)

8 I've been wanting to plant Livingstone Daisies for a while, but I never have any room for them.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 19, 2018 01:07 PM (b1bLJ)

9 KT, this thread always has the prettiest pictures of any other threads, and as always this week's does not disappoint.

I love roses. And heaven knows I'm no gardener, but I think Nadine is right in that her rose is a knockout rose. Lots of people grow them around here, but I can't because I don't get enough sunlight.

And Blake! Love that photo of you with the cookbook! I'll have to tell Weasel to get his bad self over here and take a look!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (oMtOd)

10 Wow, that is a LOT of content. Thanks KT and all the contributors. Great reading!

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (V+03K)

11
What's with the georgia okeefe thrad?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (WtQOO)

12 I took cuttings from my inlaws hibiscus last weekend. I'm trying to get them to root. I did it about 4 years ago and it worked, I tried again last year and totally failed. The 4 cuttings I just took are still looking pretty good. These are a very cold tolerant variety with flowers the size of dinner plates. Once they get going they will spread like crazy every year. Super easy to keep.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (kufk0)

13
oops
that was supposed to be in thrad below

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 19, 2018 01:09 PM (WtQOO)

14 bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM

I thought the Deplorable Photo was lots of fun.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:11 PM (BVQ+1)

15 And Gordon - ouch - hope your cellulitis is all gone. That must have been horrible.

I know this goes against the Horde's nature, but wear pants!!!! Long ones!

Weasel must be guppy-shopping with Mrs. Weasel.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:11 PM (oMtOd)

16 Odd that no one has specifically come out and said whether or not this species is edible. Or tasty.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:55 PM

Rule of thumb; if nobody has come out and said whether or not a plant is edible, assume that anyone who has eaten it died as a result.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 19, 2018 01:12 PM (b1bLJ)

17 We're beginning to wonder if the sun will ever show itself. It sure has been a while. And good amounts of rain EVERY day. And we've been lucky. Folks not far off, like bluebell, have gotten more. The reports are making big talk about sun shine tomorrow. I'll wait and see.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 01:12 PM (V+03K)

18 lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM

What techniques are you using to start them?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:13 PM (BVQ+1)

19 I have a couple of ideas for preventing these kinds of infections from kneeling in the garden. Got any tips for Gordon?

I have an outdoor solar shower*. On the lower part is a spigot for filling buckets and a quick washing of hands and feet. Soap, scrub brushes, and other detergents and pads are nearby. Shower has a temperature control that actually provides some moderation of temperature, especially on sunny hot days.

I'm not a 'clean freak' or anything. But gardening and landscaping is a dirty germ-filled business. Best to get the stuff off as soon as possible. Any cuts require a quick application of a topical antibiotic.

* https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4PYB03/

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 19, 2018 01:13 PM (LOgQ4)

20 That cobbler recipe looks good, KT. And to answer your question about the cornstarch, it's in there to thicken the blackberry juices a bit. You could leave it out but then the cobbler would be runnier, but it would still taste fine.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:14 PM (oMtOd)

21 My favorite thread, the sex thread!

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at May 19, 2018 01:15 PM (b1bLJ)

22 Ugh, what an eyesore. Paint that sucker red.

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at May 19, 2018 01:16 PM (/qEW2)

23 I was surprised to learn that Moss Roses are different from portulaca because I grew up hearing the terms used interchangeably. I have always loved the colors of portulaca, even when I was a kid. That was before I realized how indestructible they are in our hot Texas summers.

Well, sort of indestructible. Where we live now, the number one consideration is deer predations and although I'd love to plant a lot of portulaca, I fear the deer would view succulents in the same way retiree at the early-bird special views a newly refreshed pizza buffet. Right now the deer are fawning and apparently having cravings. They are literally eating everything in our yard, including stuff they typically avoid. Jeez.

At least I can live vicariously through KT's gorgeous pics.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2018 01:17 PM (S+f+m)

24 Right now the deer are fawning and apparently having cravings. They are literally eating everything in our yard, including stuff they typically avoid. Jeez.

At least I can live vicariously through KT's gorgeous pics.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2018 01:17 PM (S+f+m)
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That's the problem we have here too, Art. Deer are cute but pestilent. And when they are hungry they will indeed eat anything. I got tired of providing them with buffet-filled planters. This year I put lavender plants in them. I'm hoping they won't eat those, because I had some lavender last in the ground for a few years (it died because I'm a lousy gardener, not because it got eaten).

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:20 PM (oMtOd)

25 I planted thornless blackberry bushes in our yard years ago. They produced like crazy, and I never got cut-up or clothing pulls and tears while harvesting.

We had some landscaping work done last week, so I had the landscapers bucket those thornless blackberry bushes and we gave them to a friend to replant near his raspberry bramble (both need acidic soil). Even though it is a tad late for transplanting I have high hopes they will thrive on his land.

I still have a ton of veggies and herbs left to plant but have a container project to do before I finish up, including putting together a new tower (it is for the herbs)!

So far I have 7 earth boxes planted, plus a ton of lettuce (if all that comes up, we will look like rabbits).

Posted by: Ann at May 19, 2018 01:21 PM (e59uY)

26 What techniques are you using to start them?
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The very complicated cut them and stick them in water....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:21 PM (kufk0)

27 Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2018 01:17 PM

You were right, Art. "Moss Rose" is a common name for ornamental Portulaca.

But there are Moss Roses that are actual Roses.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:24 PM (BVQ+1)

28 I thought I had a "cabbage rose" out in the side yard, but apparently I have a moss rose instead. It is one of the old fashioned pink ones, and very fragrant.

Here, my roses just started popping out, and the peonies as well. There was a late, wet spring.

I have 5 rows of corn planted, and I have interplanted some volunteer squash (maybe melons, can't tell) and shell beans in among them just to see if it does any good.

Bought my first peppers and tomatoes, and one eggplant.

I am waiting for my melon seeds to germinate in a dish covered in a wet paper towel so I can plant them too.

All in all a decent start, I just need to get the grass mowed and the borders tidy.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 01:24 PM (2K6fY)

29 JTB, the one good thing about all this rain is that everything is very green. And I don't have to water the hanging baskets on my front porch - I just take them down and set them on the walkway in front of my house periodically.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:24 PM (oMtOd)

30 lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:21 PM

Probably a good choice, since that species likes water.

How many roots do you like to see before you put them in the ground.? For those who have never done it before, do you make your cut below a bud or anything?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:26 PM (BVQ+1)

31 bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:24 PM

Hanging baskets love rainwater.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:27 PM (BVQ+1)

32 Even with so little sun the salad greens and herbs are doing great. We may get our first salad in a few days.

The lilac and crepe myrtle both look good and the veggies are coming along. Figure the tomato plants will go in this week. In fact everything we've planted, including that tiny dogwood sapling, is growing and doing well.

Of course, the garden might be setting me up with false expectations. They are sneaky that way!

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 01:28 PM (V+03K)

33 Ann at May 19, 2018 01:21 PM

What a lot of work you are doing.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:30 PM (BVQ+1)

34 I love roses. And heaven knows I'm no gardener, but I think Nadine is right in that her rose is a knockout rose. Lots of people grow them around here, but I can't because I don't get enough sunlight.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (oMtOd)

Yeah, looks like a knockout single, from her description, sounds like one, too.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 01:30 PM (0+nbW)

35 Kindltot at May 19, 2018 01:24 PM

Sounds great. And there's no reason a Moss Rose can't also be a Cabbage Rose. The latter term has to do with the number of petals in the flower and its rounded form.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:33 PM (BVQ+1)

36 These friggin' rhubarb stalkers are as bad as those New England sappers. It's madness like crack cocaine.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 01:33 PM (J7XgW)

37 JTB at May 19, 2018 01:28 PM

Hope things continue to go well.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:34 PM (BVQ+1)

38 lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:21 PM

Probably a good choice, since that species likes water.

How many roots do you like to see before you put them in the ground.? For those who have never done it before, do you make your cut below a bud or anything?
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I always pick the lighter green new growth but before a bud has formed. I cut about 6-8 inches down right before a leaf. I'm just using instinct since I really have education about this stuff.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:36 PM (kufk0)

39 Of course, the garden might be setting me up with false expectations. They are sneaky that way!
Posted by: JTB

-- heh heh heh.

Posted by: The Bugs at May 19, 2018 01:36 PM (JXh4Y)

40 29 ... "JTB, the one good thing about all this rain is that everything is very green. And I don't have to water the hanging baskets on my front porch - I just take them down and set them on the walkway in front of my house periodically."

bluebell, Ain't that the truth. Our garden hose is feeling neglected and put out that everything looks so good without it.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 01:36 PM (V+03K)

41 ...since I have NO real education about this stuff.
I usually just wait for a few roots, nothing crazy.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 01:37 PM (kufk0)

42 Some of the locals are planting Kotata berries, they look like thornless Himalaya blackberries, but the local growers will correct you very quickly if you get that wrong.

They do taste like the himalayas too. They just aren't organic concertina wire entanglements.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 01:38 PM (2K6fY)

43
Our garden, apart from looking lovely, is doing what we want it to do. Bees are finding the lavender and jasmine, bluebirds are enjoying the mealyworms in the tray, hummingbirds sip at the feeders, butterflies are coming around, the roses bloom beautifully and Her Majesty is enjoying the cherry tomatoes and lettuce. A small garden, perhaps 400 square feet, but very functional.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 01:39 PM (Se1wd)

44 "I have a couple of ideas for preventing these kinds of infections from kneeling in the garden. Got any tips for Gordon?"

I read the original article linked, which referred to "wet poultry material" packed around the plants where one person picked up an infection. Maybe Step One is not to scatter animal crap all over the place.

Posted by: MW at May 19, 2018 01:42 PM (wNx6K)

45 Rose thorns etc.: Put the nozzle about one inch away from the wound and spray until it hits bottom.
It will clean and disinfect it at the same time.
Don't worry you will know when the spray hits bottom.

https://www.amazon.com/
Lanacane-Anti-Bacterial-First-Aid-Spray
/dp/B0000C860F

Years ago there were other brands but the fed kept regulating them away. I believe that one of the main reasons it is so affective is that it's pressurized - it blows disinfectant all the way to the bottom of the wound where a cream or a pour on doesn't travel. Secondly, the propellant butane, is also a disinfectant.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 01:45 PM (zdltJ)

46
For all those who have had 600 straight days of rain, please send some to Brazoria County, Texas. We haven't seen any here in weeks and it's been in the 90s. No wonder the garden fountain is so popular with the local birds.

Her Majesty is away for the next two weeks and it's my responsibility to keep the garden watered. 177,000 square feet of property that only I take care of and another 400 that I have to help with.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 01:48 PM (Se1wd)

47 On an historical note, I just got a book "Home Life In Colonial Days" by Alice Morse Earle. It was published in the 1890s and the lady used living memory and personal journals for her information. There is one chapter about gardens, mostly flowers, what was planted and why. But throughout the book there are references to gardening/farming: growing and processing flax for linen and linseed oil, some vegetable and fruit gardening, even how important bayberry was in making candles.

I've just started it but it has been informative. She devotes most things to colonial New England as is only proper. (Says the guy who grew up in Rhode Island.) But there is mention of the south and mid-Atlantic.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 01:49 PM (V+03K)

48 Lilac covered in blooms, caraganna covered in blooms. Seems that all the bushes had more than the normal blooms.

Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2018 01:59 PM (m2Ggn)

49 Brazoria County, Texas"

Too bad we can't figure out that whole reservoir thingy, as we've had plenty of spring rains N of Houston...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 02:04 PM (7LY+6)

50 I learn so much here! I love looking at those portulaca varieties. I only have the old fashioned kind, but it reminds me of my grandmother's garden so it makes me happy. It's weird that the flowers melt when they get rained on. New ones open the next morning, tho.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 19, 2018 02:16 PM (GzDYP)

51 yeah my lilacs were awesome this year. they are supposed to re-bloom once or twice if I cut them back, and the recent little storm finished them off, so it is time for the hedge trimmer assault.

lots of grass taking over, but I did transplant about ten milkweeds out of the mowing zone, so have probably 20 of those back there, to keep the Monarchs content. The turnips in my waterway came back and gave a nice yellow display, with some hairy vetch in the mix for some purple flair. Hollyhocks are growing fast, as well other things.

We went from 10-15 below average temps in April to 10-15 above average for most of May. life is good ... love the roses, I keep killing mine, neglect probably. cheers

Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2018 02:20 PM (bT8Z4)

52 33 What a lot of work you are doing.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 01:30 PM (BVQ+1)

I scaled back this year a lot. I had the landscapers sod over my garden lot, and am transitioning to container gardens.

Hubby will be planting deer plots again (I wanted him to plant this month too, but he did get the tractor out, so no summer veggies up there :-( ) on his hunting land. Since it is all edible for humans (turnips, parsnips, edamame, etc) I will be happy to get those items too (and without any work on my part!)

That land also has pear and apple trees (anyone who says organic fruit is "better for you" must like the extra bug-protein), wild grapes, rose hips, etc., so I can get my "fix" if I miss the big garden too much.

Getting old kinda sucks.

Posted by: Ann at May 19, 2018 02:23 PM (e59uY)

53 I planted some taters. I probably should buy some sulfur for next year. Hopefully these will live anyway. We are dry so they have somewhat less risk of fungus. Cool and rainy today. Good for the plants but I'd prefer sun on my weekends.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 02:25 PM (84F5k)

54 Rosebud...

Posted by: zombie charles foster kane at May 19, 2018 02:27 PM (Evws/)

55 Plant your tulips here.

Posted by: zombie charles foster kane at May 19, 2018 02:27 PM (Evws/)

56 I've fallen in love with dahlias.

Posted by: Kim Jong-fu at May 19, 2018 02:30 PM (artIV)

57 I love peonies but it's too hot and dry in Texas for them. I do have two good sized hydrangeas on one side of my house. They are in the shade pretty much all day. The soil is clay so base. I can't get blue flowers no matter how much acid I add to the soil. They are pink but still very pretty.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 02:34 PM (kufk0)

58 We don't do much with growing flowers but I can imagine some baskets for pansies and portulaca, maybe some more sweet alyssum.

I wonder if peonies can do well in a container. They are one of Mrs. JTB's favorites but I can't easily get down to the ground for now. (OK, it's the getting up again that is the challenge.) Worth checking into.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 02:53 PM (V+03K)

59 Thanks for the great thread as usual KT

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 19, 2018 02:54 PM (2DYau)

60 I need to dead head my roses.

My favorite roses are still my David Austin roses. They are so pretty and smell very nice.

My iceberg roses need to be dead headed too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 19, 2018 02:57 PM (2DYau)

61 I tried growing roses, but they usually winter kill. I've tried the straw covering.

Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2018 03:00 PM (m2Ggn)

62 Nude pets...

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 19, 2018 03:01 PM (3JQ/p)

63 JTB at May 19, 2018 02:53 PM

Maybe the portulaca could follow up when the pansies died in the summer.

Might check into the various types of peonies: herbaceous, intermediate and tree.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 03:05 PM (BVQ+1)

64 Ronster at May 19, 2018 03:00 PM

There are some extra-hardy types. Usually grown on their own roots. Sold by specialty mail order outfits.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 03:07 PM (BVQ+1)

65 I have a peony, I forget what kind it is. I got one flower this year.

I need to put ice on it in the winter. It was cold here in the winter but I don't know if it gets cold enough.

It's a tree peony or the intersectional one. I don't remember.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 19, 2018 03:09 PM (2DYau)

66 KT, Thanks for the suggestions. My knowledge of peonies is about nothing, just that my wife likes them. Even having a few would be nice for her.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2018 03:13 PM (V+03K)

67 That big marigold is an Inca Marigold. They come in yellow, pale orange, and dark orange. I used to plant entire flats of the dark orange ones, but I haven't seen them the past few years -- just the yellow and the light orange. Of course, I don't wander as far afield hunting for annuals any more, so it's entirely possible the dark orange ones are still very common, just not where I'm looking.

I cut back severely on my flowers this year -- three Black Knight butterfly bushes, two pots of marigolds, two Mexican heather, a lot of pansies, and several lantana. In the fall, I will pick up a few pots of blooming mums. It took me two weeks to get that meager amount planted because my back started aching so badly after just a few minutes. (Have I mentioned before that getting old is a bitch?) Last evening, my oldest son went home with a couple of shepherds crooks, a metal trellis, and lots of lots and players that have grown nothing but weeds the past couple years. My daughter-in-law is ecstatic. I'm just glad to get rid of them.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 19, 2018 03:14 PM (twkXM)

68 From Idaho's Treasure Valley: I have no idea how I managed to get through a full day of gardening last Saturday - I found out at the end of the day my fever was just over 100 F... I had to skip helping with our juniors smallbore class on Mon. night, and working the Ada County primary election on Tuesday. Fortunately my fever went away, then the gut issues, and now I nearly have my usual energy back.

Seeds that went in this week: green bush beans, sweet corn, butternut squash, cucumbers, cantaloupe.

Starts that got planted out: 1 cantaloupe, several poblano. (All indoor-started plants now either given away or planted.)

Still working on laying down mulch under the windbreak-row of lilacs. Husband still working on digging up the last corner of the corn bed. He's also been building drip lines as we plant in the corn bed. We're still topping up potato bags with soil, though some are close to full - the few potatoes in a raised bed are buried up to soil level now.

My job is to search front yard for large branches and pine cones before husband runs mowers. 130 pine cones this Wed. morning!

Even though my garden calendar says it's early for this, I put a pinch of 21-0-0 and some iron powder around my strawberries. (No idea why, but the strawberry leaves in one bed are always pale; iron powder seems to help.) We plan to put on the bird nets this afternoon, since there are a lot of flowers, and a number of berries starting. I do hope it will be easier to find the berries before they go moldy, since I seriously thinned out the plants last fall.

Not so pleasant surprise: dead white chicken spotted in the backyard early Tuesday morning. Posted on Nextdoor website before going back to bed (saw husband off to his election work, then remember I was still sick and needed my sleep). Found out neighbor 3 doors north of us lost all 5 of his chickens in one night.

Pleasant surprises: Spinach still producing well, and leaf lettuce harvest started this week. Alfalfa seeds in "Alfalfa Test Area" doing well so far. The "surprise yarrow" that popped up behind the alfalfa area has started flowering - hope it makes lots of seeds! Siberian Iris stunning, as they were last year; hundreds of flowers on the south side of the house alone. Wild roses in rear windbreak-row have started blooming. California Quail have been bold enough to come to the front porch several evenings this week!

Posted by: Pat* at May 19, 2018 03:36 PM (2pX/F)

69 I gave Mrs. E a Joseph's Coat rose for her birthday. She has not yet picked a place for it to be planted, so it bloomed on the deck. Just beautiful!

Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2018 03:53 PM (zLDYs)

70 I love peonies but it's too hot and dry in Texas for them. I do have two good sized hydrangeas on one side of my house. They are in the shade pretty much all day. The soil is clay so base. I can't get blue flowers no matter how much acid I add to the soil. They are pink but still very pretty.

Posted by: lin-duh
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Althea's, you can find blue althea's. They can take the heat, the sun, and the cold.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 04:10 PM (Bk0n1)

71 I just broke a 3 year old orange tree. I thought I had just enough room to drop a small oak and I missed my spot by about 20 inches and landed on the Satsuma. I was just going to cut it off and see if it had enough life to sprout all new branches from the stump but Mrs928 insisted on splinting it back to see if it will mend.

I don't have high hopes for that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

72 Such a beautiful rose. We had a similar rose to this, yellow, from my grandfather's garden in Andover, Mass. Only bloomed for about a week in mid-spring, but filled the entire area with a sweet scent that modern gardeners probably have never encountered, with our over-bred roses.

Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2018 04:54 PM (QE8X6)

73 Late to the thread. Thanks to KT for all the effort to pull it together!

Today was "Steel Challenge" day which took up my morning.

Bluebell, you're more than welcome. I was having fun and, if any leftists saw the picture and their heads exploded, bonus!

We have some miniature roses in the front yard. I cut them back this fall as they'd become somewhat unruly and unshapely. I must have done something right, because they've come back extremely well and they look as good as they ever have.

If anyone is interested, another low moisture plant is the crape myrtle. However, crape myrtles are high maintenance in that they require a fair amount of trimming. And, they need to be cut back a fair amount once they go dormant.

Pat; Thank you for your updates. I always look forward to them.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 05:12 PM (WEBkv)

74 I really didn't mention the other plants in Nadine's round planter, but I loved the combination of foliage textures and colors, as well as the flowers. The lantana and super bells would be striking just as a duo - similar colors, different flower forms.

And I am wishing her marigold a long life.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:23 PM (BVQ+1)

75 JTB at May 19, 2018 01:49 PM

It must have been a powerful lot of work to process flax for linen and bayberry for candles.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:24 PM (BVQ+1)

76 CaliGirl at May 19, 2018 03:09 PM

Herbaceous peonies need more winter chill than the others. Tree peonies need the least winter chill.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:26 PM (BVQ+1)

77
Speaking of roses...

Has anyone seen or heard from Carol lately?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 19, 2018 05:29 PM (4DCSq)

78 Ronster at May 19, 2018 01:59 PM

I didn't know what a caragana was. Had to look it up.

I know that lilacs are. Sounds wonderful.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:31 PM (BVQ+1)

79 Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 19, 2018 03:14 PM

Hope your back starts to feel better. And I hope you enjoy your flowers.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 05:41 PM (BVQ+1)

80 71 I just broke a 3 year old orange tree. I thought I had just enough room to drop a small oak and I missed my spot by about 20 inches and landed on the Satsuma. I was just going to cut it off and see if it had enough life to sprout all new branches from the stump but Mrs928 insisted on splinting it back to see if it will mend.

I don't have high hopes for that.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:43 PM (yQpMk)

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Duct tape for the win!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 06:56 PM (WEBkv)

81 Wife asked if I cut down here Easter Lilly's, of course I didn't, they are in a yard planter and I suspect it was deer.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2018 07:12 PM (aC6Sd)

82 Last week I rooted a couple of Christmas cactus fronds. I took them outside on the porch for a good misting, and left them out for the rest of the day before moving them back inside. A day or so later I noticed this:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8flfmb7


Tiny, tiny. Airborne spoors, I imagine, since the potting soil is supposed to be sterilized.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 07:21 PM (nBBdT)

83 Wel I'm well behind on the veggie garden due to weather here in N IL and my lack of energy after getting home from work. Also as Ann said above, getting old sucks!

I've got onions, peas a,d one tomato planted. Planted some mesuclun but nothing came up, it's old seed or got disturbed. I don't know whether it's squirrels or our cat, but it's pissing me off!

I'll toss in the rest of the mesculun seed and some old lettuce seed and hope for the best. And put the cover on my Vegtrug, it's worth more than keep the cold
and bugs out.

Now to clean out the other raised bed and more tomatoes planted. Onward.

Posted by: Farmer at May 19, 2018 08:02 PM (yJ1e6)

84 Leg infection: Yes, long pants. They told me to start wearing compression socks after the hospital stay. There are cute designs for gals in these but for guys, they are just ugly black. I tossed all my shorts in the donate pile. Wife asked, you're never wearing shorts ever? I am not that guy in shorts and knee-high black socks.

Don't use animal poop: Guilty. I had a great source for horse barn sweeping. Stuff was gold! Nothing else needed. But Dow has a herbicide called Grazon. It gets sprayed on pastures and hay fields. It goes see straight through cows and horses, no harm. But it stays active in their poop. It makes your plant leaves curl up. It affects everything that is not a grass, and persists.

It got in one batch of horse sweepings, and poisoned one of my beds. Now I have to dig out that bed and replace the soil. Luckily it didn't affect any trees or bushes.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at May 19, 2018 09:51 PM (Lai71)

85 79 Ktbarthedoor -- ,Thanks, but the back has been acting up for a few years now. I suspect lugging around forty to fifty pound boxes of books for twenty five years as well as constantly bending from March until November to pull weeds and pinch off the tips of plants to encourage fullness has a lot to do with it.

For the most part, the flowers and plants I grow are geared to reach maximum nectar in late summer and early fall to give the Monarch butterflies and the hummingbirds food for their trek south. Last year, we were totally over run by Painted Lady butterflies, and the experts predict even more of them this fall. They particularly loved the flowers on my garlic chives.

I also have a stand of Russian sage in the city easement between the curb and the sidewalk. I started with just two plants, but after five years, they give every sign of happily taking over the entire space. And I strongly suspect that they will outlive the cockroaches come the end of the world. They start blooming in early June and go straight through until the second or third hard freeze in the fall. Every pollinators for twenty miles in any direction must visit them over the summer and fall. You could probably teach an entire semester of entomology by watching those Russian sages.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 19, 2018 10:34 PM (twkXM)

86 Ugh, Grazon. I've heard of that stuff. Backwoods Home Magazine did an article about it a few years back. SO hard to be sure you aren't getting any of it into your garden via manure. You need to go backwards from the manure supplier (animal owner), ask where they get EVERYTHING they've ever fed their animals, then go back to every feed/grass suppliers and ask for the name of EVERY chemical they've EVER used on their grasses and grains.

This is why we stick with buying compost and soil from one source, the Zamzows chain in the Boise area, because we've found that stuff has always been great for growing everything. And we've never bothered to investigate whether we could get manure of any sort.

Posted by: Pat* at May 20, 2018 12:33 AM (2pX/F)

Thread before the Gardening Thread: Radical Chic [KT]

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Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Tom Wolfe died this week. I guess I knew him best kind of through general circulation of phrases from his work, rather than from reading his work myself. I certainly knew about that party at Lenny's, but didn't know much about the guy who described it. He was called a pioneer of "The New Journalism," which was not exactly the post-new journalism we have today. Before New Journalism was a thing, he wrote about classic cars.

I heard a few comments on his book The Right Stuff on NPR, sort of by accident. They were rather admiring, for NPR.

There's a piece about him up at Chicago Boyz called The Last Realist. It includes a long video discussion between him and William F. Buckley. Don't make TV like that no more.

Wolfe championed a literary style that was part journalism, part acerbic effervescence. Few (if any) recent writers were better able to craft stories by such vivid portrayals of particular people in particular places at particular times.

By the way, don't miss Sgt. Mom's Revolutionary War piece right below it, The Worst Day At Work, Ever.

A lot of history packed into that short piece. Fun to read.

But back to Wolfe:

Forbes ran an article concerning "Two Essential Pieces about the American Economy" that he wrote. One concerns Silicon Valley. The other was about working for government:

"Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" tells the story . . . of how, in the late 1960s, representatives of the "urban ghetto" shook down bureaucrats to get their hands on all the new welfare-state money. The preferred tactic was to intimidate--to "mau-mau" the bureaucrat, the "flak catcher."

"[T]his lifer is ready to catch whatever flak you're sending up. It doesn't matter what bureau they put him in. It's all the same. Poverty, Japanese imports, valley fever, tomato-crop parity, partial disability, home loans, second-probate accounting, the Interstate 90 detour change order, lockouts, secondary boycotts, G.I. alimony, the Pakistani quota, cinch mites...veterans' dental benefits, workmen's compensation, suspended excise rebates--whatever you're angry about, it doesn't matter, he's there to catch the flak. He's a lifer. Everybody knows the scene is a shuck."

The author of the Forbes piece, Brian Domitrovic, also notes that these "lifers" enjoy being connected to power. He makes several very interesting observations and reaches an interesting conclusion from the two Wolfe pieces, though not a surprising one:

As Wolfe's polar pieces more than suggested, if we sized down government, entrepreneurialism and real-world employment would increasingly appear as the natural, proper, and fulfilling province for so many of us.

Well, yes.

The Barrister at Maggie's Farm calls him an anti-intellectual intellectual. You might want to follow the link and read the piece by Continetti, too. How much has the academic climate changed for those whose views do not fit with progressive expectations since "that evening in the sixties"?

Hope you have a good weekend. Thinking about making some history?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:12 AM




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1 So, why the long face?

Posted by: Seabiscuit Kerry, Preakness Hopeful at May 19, 2018 11:06 AM (Tyii7)

2 Quiet around here.......

Posted by: Molly k. at May 19, 2018 11:07 AM (IR0iM)

3 They are still on weird news stuff...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 11:08 AM (kufk0)

4 There was a lot of talk about Tom Wolfe this week. I couldn't remember if he was the one who wrote Bonfire of the Vanities or not. If so, I didn't get very far in that book.

Not that it's bad or anything, it was just a world in which I had zero interest.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:08 AM (cY3LT)

5 Always feel odd when I leisurely read to the bottom of the post and realize zero comments are attached. Emotionally conflicted: I coulda been a contendah vs too silly a thing to care about.

Pharst!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own risk at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (YdSkn)

6 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (PmCoA)

7 The founders knew that men being men there was no way to keep corruption out of government. They crafted the smallest government they could that would accomplish what they wanted and left the rest to the States which were closer to the people. That would keep corruption to a minimum in the federal government. It didn't take long for the politicians to undo that. It even started with Adams who always wanted a strong and big central government and was unable to get it at the convention. So he started it as soon as he was President. Good thing Thomas Jefferson undid almost everything he did.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 11:11 AM (mpXpK)

8 I can see it now...weasel getting on a plane with a match rifle, 11 lbs of ammo, and an emotional support gecko..... no red flags there...no sireee!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 11:11 AM (kufk0)

9 mindful -- I'm the same way as far as no comments. Too scared to try (think of boulder th). Don't want to be anywhere near top 10.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:12 AM (MIKMs)

10 Pulling this into the new thread, just because:

Yes, and let's be specific. Those were cheetahs, which means it ended the way it did. Had they been lions, the story would have been completely different.
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Well, to be fair, the cheetahs were probably interesting in snacking on the kids.

They were well within cheetah prey range.

And the cheetahs looked to be employing their usual tactics of rushing the group and trying to isolate the kids from panicking elders of the pack.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:06 AM (9q7Dl)


Oh yes, most definitely! Those cheetahs would have had a nice snack, had there not been adult humans around. And that's the point. Adult humans will give cheetahs pause. I'm assuming had the car not been there, and these humans were isolated enough from any other help, eventually they would have gotten their food.

However, had they been lions, anyone who they had decided to kill, would be dead. In seconds.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:12 AM (cY3LT)

11 The Right Stuff (book not movie) was a pretty good, IMO.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 11:13 AM (Tyii7)

12 Pouring down rain again. Looks like it's going to rain on and off all day today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 11:13 AM (mpXpK)

13 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (PmCoA)


You probably can't go wrong with AmVets.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:13 AM (cY3LT)

14 The Right Stuff is a stunningly good book. I haven't read any of his other work, but that one, and especially the writing style - the little asides and parentheticals (and the occasionally rambling meta-commentary) - and the inserts in an anonymous narrative voice! - is just fun to read. A lot of the minor complaints people have about the movie are addressed when you realize that it's trying to follow the style of the book in a different format.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:15 AM (y87Qq)

15 Wolfe's "A Man in Full" is excellent. It captures the late 80's/early 90's go-go lifestyle perfectly. I don't know if he was conservative, but he was contrarian.
I loved that book.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (ty7RM)

16 Thanks BurtTC, I looked up Wounded Warriors, they do good but a lot of the money goes into administration

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (PmCoA)

17 After all this mean publicity about the school shooter, We must be on guard against the massive backlash against innocent bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshippers. H8Rs gotta H8.

Posted by: mindful webworker - noose you can yoose at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (YdSkn)

18 Tom Wolfe was a very good writer--his prose style was very invigorating, especially if you were a younger reader.
I only read a couple of his books and I always planned on reading more.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (7uYFy)

19 I thought i heard that Wolfe came up with "good ol' boys" and other catch phrases.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (aljs9)

20 The founders knew that men being men there was no way to keep corruption out of government.

I'm always suspicious of people advocating for more government. The "something-must-be-done-now" crowd rarely thinks things through.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 19, 2018 11:17 AM (rdl6o)

21 It even started with Adams who always wanted a strong and big central government and was unable to get it at the convention.
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The 'consolidation' argument for strong and central is going on today all the time within the states. Taxpayers will save money -- but they lose accountability. Commenters I respect and always listen to have fallen for that nonsense. Without accountability, costs increase at an exponential rate, and taxpayer engagement decreases exponentially. No doubt that is why it is a perennial push; but a deep, dark, and swampy trap.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:17 AM (MIKMs)

22 I read where JJ Watts is offering to pay for the funerals of those children murdered in Santa Fe. And I thought to myself, you are looking at a future Governor of Texas.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:17 AM (vV/gB)

23 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (PmCoA)


DAV seems to be a good one.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

24 acerbic effervescence.



Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (roQNm)

25 Always feel odd when I leisurely read to the bottom of the post and realize zero comments are attached. Emotionally conflicted: I coulda been a contendah vs too silly a thing to care about.

Pharst!
Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own risk at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (YdSkn)


You know, as one who doesn't play that game, it does seem to me there ought to be some decorum around it. Many posts here are light enough, it's rather harmless. Some of us have learned to skim past the first several comments on any post.

Others though, I'm like "Come on, people. Some of this stuff happening in the world... can we drop the game playing here?"

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (cY3LT)

26 I tried making history once, but either I forgot the oil, or I didn't grease the pan right. I probably didn't knead long enough anyways and in truth I was guessing on temperature and time.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (2K6fY)

27 Always feel odd when I leisurely read to the bottom of the post and realize zero comments are attached. Emotionally conflicted: I coulda been a contendah vs too silly a thing to care about.

Pharst!
Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own risk at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (YdSkn)


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I've made that stupid blunder several times in the past. You NEVER read the opening post before checking for comments.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

28 I thought i heard that Wolfe came up with "good ol' boys" and other catch phrases.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (aljs9)

The "me decade", "radical chic", "the right stuff", "statusphere"

I'd always thought "good ol' boys" was around a lot longer---didn't Don McLean use the term in American Pie?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:19 AM (7uYFy)

29 Look, I don't mind an occasional noogie on my nutsack, but be gentle!

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 11:19 AM (J7XgW)

30 >>>Wolfe championed a literary style that was part journalism, part acerbic effervescence.

So, does this qualify as "gonzo"?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:20 AM (/qEW2)

31 Thanks BurtTC, I looked up Wounded Warriors, they do good but a lot of the money goes into administration
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (PmCoA)


As hogmartin said, DAV is another one. These are organizations that have a bunch of people who are on the ground, doing a shedload of work on behalf of Veterans.

It's not pretty, and they don't have a lot of fanfare around them. If there's a local chapter, they may or may not have to filter it through the national orgs, but those two in particular, they're feeding, clothing, helping with equipping houses with access ramps and other adaptive stuff. Helping Vets get disability claims processed.

They do the work. Plain and simple.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:21 AM (cY3LT)

32 Thanks hogmartin

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:22 AM (PmCoA)

33 Pouring down rain again. Looks like it's going to rain on and off all day today.
We've had maybe eight days without rain (or snow) since the beginning of April. It's wearing mighty thin.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 11:22 AM (Tyii7)

34 >>>shook down bureaucrats

Objection! It'd only be a shakedown if it was their money. As Thatcher and Milton Friedman would remind us, it's not.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:22 AM (/qEW2)

35 My favorite Wolfe book was The Kool Aid Acid Test. It was entertaining while not becoming a Massive Russian Novel like Bonfire. I had a college classmate that would obsessively type stories, novels, observations, etc. Wolfe sort of fit that pattern as he became famous. While quantity has a quality of its own, in book form, it just means someone needed an editor. See Dickens as the example.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (vV/gB)

36 Is that a princess or a can of tea?

https://bit.ly/2LgfL2K

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (+y/Ru)

37 Can anyone suggest an interesting book on the history of China?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (aljs9)

38 I tried making history once, but either I forgot the oil, or I didn't grease the pan right. I probably didn't knead long enough anyways and in truth I was guessing on temperature and time.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 11:18 AM (2K6fY)


Nothing worse than trying to make history, and ending up with a pan full of gossip. Or worse, fake news.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (cY3LT)

39 Gonzo Hunter S Thompson is really underestimated in my opinion. He still reads remarkably well while others of his generation and political inclinations are repetitive pap.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (MIKMs)

40

That moment when you realize that you just opened a can of black olives and not black beans to put in your pot of chili......oh well, into the pot you go....*


*eyes carrots in fridge


0_0 NO. Just NO. NO Carrots in chili.


Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin (thought leader) at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (YMuSO)

41 I had the good fortune to read The Right Stuff just a couple of months before the first Space Shuttle flight in 1981. It gave me some perspective on how a space plane was a natural progression of the test flights of the 1950s, and how it was sidetracked for years by the time pressure of the moon race. It also made me appreciate Young and Crippen's walkaround inspection of the vehicle after landing. It was just like pilots do, instead of being plucked from the ocean by helicopter.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 11:24 AM (sdi6R)

42 It just cost me $30 to throw away a ca. 1980 15" t.v. F-the watermelons!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 11:24 AM (ty7RM)

43
Ah-ha! I see the route of my confusion. I'm Conflating Tom Wolf with "valley of the dolls" which was all book seller hype; annal effervescence, as it were, with 'Vanity of the Bonfires' which is acerbic effervescence.

my bad.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 19, 2018 11:25 AM (roQNm)

44 >>>Wolfe championed a literary style that was part journalism, part acerbic effervescence.

So, does this qualify as "gonzo"?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:20 AM (/qEW2)

Yes. Tom Wolfe and Hunter S. Thompson were both regularly published in Rolling Stone magazine when that rag was worth reading. So was PJ O'Rourke.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:25 AM (7uYFy)

45 Mississippi Half Step is an outstanding song

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:25 AM (PUmDY)

46 Ok gotta go. Fuck China.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 11:26 AM (aljs9)

47 Gonzo Hunter S Thompson is really underestimated in my opinion. He still reads remarkably well while others of his generation and political inclinations are repetitive pap.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (MIKMs)

His "Hell's Angels" is still one of the best books I ever read.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:26 AM (7uYFy)

48 Wolfe's book "The Painted Word" is one of the best on modern art (abstract expressionism, etc).

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 19, 2018 11:27 AM (l9m7l)

49 My mom use to put sliced black olives in her chili when I was growing up. Wasn't bad...just not authentic.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 11:27 AM (kufk0)

50 It also made me appreciate Young and Crippen's
walkaround inspection of the vehicle after landing. It was just like
pilots do, instead of being plucked from the ocean by helicopter. Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 11:24 AM (sdi6R)
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The Right Stuff and Rocket Boys (October Sky) were such aspirational works in a sea of 'nattering nabobs of negativity' that they really deserved more acclaim than they received.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:28 AM (MIKMs)

51 Wolfe's book "The Painted Word" is one of the best on modern art (abstract expressionism, etc).
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 19, 2018 11:27 AM (l9m7l)

And his "From Bahaus to Our House" is one of the best on modern architecture.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:28 AM (7uYFy)

52
After all this mean publicity about the school shooter, We must be on guard against the massive backlash against innocent bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshippers. H8Rs gotta H8.
Posted by: mindful webworker - noose you can yoose


Don't call him an animal. He has a spark of divinity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

53 Movie was a hot mess, but that was intended, I thinking

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:29 AM (PUmDY)

54 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to?

I seriously considered starting a registered charity called "beers for the troops" at one point, to enable people to follow through on their wish to buy the guys a beer, but I figured it would not be conducive to a long career of passing my weigh in.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:29 AM (MIVQy)

55 >>>My mom use to put sliced black olives in her chili when I was growing up. Wasn't bad...just not authentic.<<<
Black olives are so much better on burritos and enchiladas. Mmm, enchiladas.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 11:29 AM (J7XgW)

56
Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (PmCoA)





I'm partial to Fisher House.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:30 AM (eXA4G)

57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 11:30 AM (IqV8l)

58 54 Hawkpilot, haha Love it

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:31 AM (PmCoA)

59 CDC: You can eat romaine lettuce again.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:31 AM (/qEW2)

60 No ing

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:32 AM (PUmDY)

61 "Bonfire of the Vanities" is my favorite. He is our Thackeray.

Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2018 11:32 AM (QE8X6)

62 You can eat romaine lettuce again.It's true!

Posted by: Zombie Euell Gibbons at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (Tyii7)

63
I'm partial to Fisher House.

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Fisher House and Salvation Army. They do the practical and helpful direct charity with very low overhead.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (MIKMs)

64 In college, I took a course on New Journalism from David McCraw, who is now the Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at the New York Times.

I took other courses with David, but this was 400 level course that really showed me what he was interested in. Now that he is at he NYT, I believe he is guided by the NJ standards rather than the legal standards of journalism. I would refer back to the letter he wrote the Trump campaign in 2016 requesting a retraction about two women who claimed Trump touched them inappropriately. The story became about David McCraw and not the facts of the story.

When I read the NYT today, I see the infusion of New Journalism in everything they do, even with genuine news articles. The writer's put themselves into the stories by degrees. That is how we have moved beyond New Journalism and arrived at Narcissism Journalism (see Dan Rather and Jim Acosta).

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (bWZ0m)

65
CDC: You can eat romaine lettuce again.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 11:31 AM (/qEW2)






SNL
Coneheads
Family Feud skit
Steve Martin

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (eXA4G)

66 CC - agreed - I think Wake of the Flood is one of their best albums.

Posted by: Top.Man. at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (88slR)

67 But, to answer your question: Fisher House. I have a friend on the Board of Directors. They're excellent.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (MIVQy)

68 Gonzo Hunter S Thompson is really underestimated in my opinion. He still reads remarkably well while others of his generation and political inclinations are repetitive pap.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:23 AM (MIKMs)

His "Hell's Angels" is still one of the best books I ever read.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:26 AM (7uYFy)


Thompson sure is fun to read. I'm not sure how much he had to say though, was really worth reading.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (cY3LT)

69 So, the blog is now eating carriage returns? What will the hamsters think of next?

Posted by: Zombie Euell Gibbons at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (Tyii7)

70 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?

And who say "absolutely" for just yes.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (/svhi)

71 54 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to?

I seriously considered starting a registered charity called "beers for the troops" at one point, to enable people to follow through on their wish to buy the guys a beer, but I figured it would not be conducive to a long career of passing my weigh in.
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When my dad got back from Iwo Jima after VJ Day he and all the other vets were on trains trying to get back home from California. It seems that at every train stop they would get off and visit a local bar. They never had to pay for a drink. As my dad told us, it was an eight day drunk crossing the US. As a result, he had gangrene when he arrived at Norfolk Naval hospital.

It was the practice during the island campaigns to land a shit load of booze after an island was secured. The Division(s) would pretty much stay drunk for about 30 days and then would sober up and start preparing for the next island.

This is how you win wars.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (vV/gB)

72
Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?







Absolutely

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (eXA4G)

73 Not that it's bad or anything, it was just a world in which I had zero interest.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:08 AM
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I'd figure that would be a 'great' writer/journalist's skill set. Getting you 'consumed' by the plot, despite your lack of interest in a particular part of the world.

Despite my disinterest in science and technology, Michael Crichton drew me into most of his novels.

That said, I didn't read (nor see the movie) Bonfire.

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (Roy2Z)

74 And who say "absolutely" for just yes.



Exactly.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (roQNm)

75 But, to answer your question: Fisher House. I have a friend on the Board of Directors. They're excellent.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (MIVQy)


Serious question, other than running the houses, what do they do?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

76 I read where JJ Watts is offering to pay for the funerals of those children murdered in Santa Fe. And I thought to myself, you are looking at a future Governor of Texas.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:17 AM (vV/gB)


I am sure that JJ Watts is a very nice man with good intentions, but I wonder if he knows TX AG's Crime Victims Compensation will cover the cost of funerals of up to $6,500.

Though I suppose it would be a great help for the families for someone to make a direct payment for them and then get what reimbursement possible through the program afterwards.

"Funeral and Burial Expenses include reimbursement for professional burial services, flowers, caskets, urns and grave markers. The maximum award for these costs is $4,500 for dates of crime prior to July 15, 2016 and $6,500 for dates of crime on or after July 15, 2016. Costs for transporting the body to another state or country are awarded in addition to the $4,500 or $6,500 maximum."

This is of course after prior resources have been exhausted, as is typical in most crime victim's compensation programs

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (2K6fY)

77 My mom use to put sliced black olives in her chili when I was growing up. Wasn't bad...just not authentic.
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Chili is a stew. Italian 'gravy' is a stew. You throw in what you have and add appropriate spices.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (MIKMs)

78 Movie was a hot mess, but that was intended, I thinking
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:29 AM (PUmDY)


Of The Right Stuff? I liked it. Good cast. I don't know if they could have done a better job of it. The point was to film the book, or else it would have just been another space race documentary. The book has an exaggerated style that wouldn't have come through if they hadn't included the parts that seemed ham-fisted and clumsy if you were expecting a true-to-life account.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 11:36 AM (y87Qq)

79 Bonfire of the Vanities is a very great title

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:37 AM (PUmDY)

80 I am going to tell my Tom Wolfe story.

I went to grad school in downtown Manhattan. One of my best friends lived in an Opus Dei house uptown, near that other college. He invited me to dinner one night to meet and hear a talk from Tom Wolfe.

This is shortly after Bonfire. Imagine a fraternity house where all the boys are Good Boys. (I went to a football college and was in a different kind of fraternity). There's maybe 20 kids who live there. It's way on the upper west side by Columbia. They have a cook. They have a ... something ... high ranking cleric to watch over things.

After dinner (exquisite) Wolfe gives a talk and takes questions. I've read the books and I think I'm smart but then the Columbia Opus Dei kids start asking questions and I realize that I have nothing.

"So, did you use the word 'Vanities' because..."

"Yes, exactly, you see..."

They were all on a whole nother wavelength.

He did wear the white linen suit and silk socks. The whole Tom Wolfe drag.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:37 AM (fuK7c)

81 Thanks mustbequantum

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:37 AM (PmCoA)

82 "Gonzo" journalism is something completely different. It's journalism that is indirectly about the journalist himself. The topic is mostly a vehicle, and in some cases barely even gets scratched, except as paranoia bait. Large amounts of booze and drugs are required, in fact are main characters in the story. The self-portrait that emerges is (we hope) intentionally funny and self-deprecating, assuming someone that stoned is capable of four-dimensional irony. But funny in any case.

Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2018 11:38 AM (QE8X6)

83 >>>And who say "absolutely" for just yes.
<<<
Fucking righteous, brah!

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 11:38 AM (J7XgW)

84 This is how you win wars.

It is. We seem to hav lost that concept,maybe that explains why modern wars continue indefinitely.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:38 AM (MIVQy)

85 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?
And who say "absolutely" for just yes.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (/svhi)


F'n A, bubba.

Posted by: Gus Grissom at May 19, 2018 11:38 AM (y87Qq)

86
But, to answer your question: Fisher House. I have a friend on the Board of Directors. They're excellent.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (MIVQy)


Serious question, other than running the houses, what do they do?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)






I don't thing they've branched out into other areas. Which is one big reason that they're such a good charity. They're focused, so their administrative resources aren't stretched thin trying to do too many things. Also means that there's less waste in your charity dollars.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:39 AM (eXA4G)

87 So, does this qualify as "gonzo"?


Wolfe was New Journalism.

Hunter Thompson was Gonzo.

Both arose out of the same conditions of the 1960s.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:40 AM (fuK7c)

88 You can eat romaine lettuce again.

But you can't go home again.

Posted by: Zombie T Wolfe at the Door at May 19, 2018 11:40 AM (YdSkn)

89 51
And his "From Bahaus to Our House" is one of the best on modern architecture.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:28 AM (7uYFy)


I saw an excerpt from that book quoted at Instapundit yesterday.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 11:41 AM (sdi6R)

90 Thanks all, will give a donation to each

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:41 AM (PmCoA)

91 88 You can eat romaine lettuce again.

But you can't go home again.
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Different Wolf - he's from Western NC not the one from Tidewater VA.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:42 AM (vV/gB)

92
And who say "absolutely" for just yes.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (/svhi)

defiantly*
*my favorite typo

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 11:42 AM (84F5k)

93 http://bit.ly/2IxPLxQ
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Q Anon Update May 18 - Gimme Shelter - YouTube Praying Medic

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 11:42 AM (y3aQB)

94 Not that it's bad or anything, it was just a world in which I had zero interest.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:08 AM
~~~
I'd figure that would be a 'great' writer/journalist's skill set. Getting you 'consumed' by the plot, despite your lack of interest in a particular part of the world.

Despite my disinterest in science and technology, Michael Crichton drew me into most of his novels.

That said, I didn't read (nor see the movie) Bonfire.
Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 11:34 AM (Roy2Z)


I don't read much fiction. When I am absorbed into a story, it's because the author is able to paint for me, a picture of the people in his story, so that I care.

The plot is often not the point. For me at least.

Classic example for me is the Tolkien stuff. I'm just not into fantasy worlds. He was. That was his thing, creating new worlds. But he also created characters that would do things that revealed who they were, in satisfying complex ways.

I think my favorite part of the LOTR story is the return to the Shire. We see our heroes as changed men (yes, they were men), and when faced with a crisis, it almost didn't matter at all what this crisis was, or what they had to do to deal with it. They dealt with it. Because they were not the naive people they were before they left.

And I realize this comment is getting too long, but...

Tolkien has famously stated how much he hated allegory, and yet... and YET, the trilogy became allegorical, whether he intended it or not. The Hobbits were the Brits, plain and simple.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

95 6 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 11:10 AM (PmCoA)
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Don't know if it's already been mentioned, but Fisher House is a good candidate. We donate half of the cookbook proceeds to them.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 11:43 AM (MVjcR)

96 Serious question, other than running the houses, what do they do?

I don't think so. They're basically Ronald McDonald House, but for Troops families. But I shot the question off to Mr. Board of Directors. I'll let you know if he answers.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:44 AM (MIVQy)

97 70 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?
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My latest intolerance is "No problem" as a response to "Thank you". Especially in a counter or restaurant.

The implication is (to me at least), the server perceives each interaction with a customer as a potential 'problem'.

Change your attitude, ya jerk! You had no idea what my request would be (perhaps only a water cup? or a clean knife) but you set you attitude to "Here's another bitchy customer with a problem.

I'm temped to further reply (however): No problem? That's good. I'd hate to complicate your day with a *problem*.

The phrase 'You're welcome' had gone the way of the jukebox. It seems.

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 11:45 AM (Roy2Z)

98 It includes a long video discussion between him and William F. Buckley. Don't make TV like that no more.
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'Firing Line', which I watched religiously.

And you are correct, that sort of TV just doesn't exist anymore. My own opinion is that the sundry intellects necessary to such conversations do not exist anymore either.

Charlie Rose and Bill Moyers would have a go at it now and then, but their watery cerebral substance couldn't cover their biases. By contrast with Buckley they were mere pretenders.

The current crop of pygmies merits no consideration at all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:46 AM (c/EDo)

99 I'm pretty sure Wolfe would have been called a racist if he wrote Bonfire of the Vanities after A.O. (in the year of Obama). Course, he was from Virginia.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 19, 2018 11:46 AM (9BLnV)

100 Oh, and Bonfire was supposed to be Wolfe's first "fiction" book.

The Rev. Francis Bacon (pig, get it) was Al Sharpton, who was still fat back then.

It really was NYC in that point of the 80s.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:47 AM (fuK7c)

101 When I read the NYT today, I see the infusion of New Journalism in everything they do, even with genuine news articles. The writer's put themselves into the stories by degrees. That is how we have moved beyond New Journalism and arrived at Narcissism Journalism (see Dan Rather and Jim Acosta).
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (bWZ0m)

You're correct, but like with almost everything else, the originals were great--but the thousands of imitators ruined it. New Journalism was corrupted by hordes of lesser talents and I can't blame Wolfe (or Thompson or Joan Didion for that matter) for the existence of the vapid Jim Acosta.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (7uYFy)

102 Pool balls made of styrofoam and no one's got the time are excellent lyrics.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (PUmDY)

103 97
My latest intolerance is "No problem" as a response to "Thank you". Especially in a counter or restaurant.
Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 11:45 AM (Roy2Z)


Much worse than that is:

"Thank you."
"Mmm hm."

Which sounds like, "Damn right you should be thanking me."

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

104 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?
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I always want to ask, "Okay, by 'reach out', what do you mean?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (c/EDo)

105 socalcon. Well we had a grumpy horde member who was affronted at staff that presumed to say "you're welcome" in response to a customer thank you. I suppose in a high end setting staff should be instructed to reply "my pleasure" but there are probably folks who would find that irritating.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (84F5k)

106 Oh, and Bonfire was supposed to be Wolfe's first "fiction" book.

The Rev. Francis Bacon (pig, get it) was Al Sharpton, who was still fat back then.

It really was NYC in that point of the 80s.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:47 AM (fuK7c)

Was there a character modeled on Trump in that novel?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (7uYFy)

107 >>98 And you are correct, that sort of TV just doesn't exist anymore. My own
opinion is that the sundry intellects necessary to such conversations do
not exist anymore either.

Check out the debate in the sidebar. Of course that was a one sided intellect for Peterson and Frye.

Posted by: bananaDream at May 19, 2018 11:49 AM (yRBj9)

108 But, to answer your question: Fisher House. I have a friend on the Board of Directors. They're excellent.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:33 AM (MIVQy)


Serious question, other than running the houses, what do they do?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)


I don't thing they've branched out into other areas. Which is one big reason that they're such a good charity. They're focused, so their administrative resources aren't stretched thin trying to do too many things. Also means that there's less waste in your charity dollars.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2018 11:39 AM (eXA4G)


Got it, thanks.

A noble cause, to be sure. What I like about the more traditional service orgs is that they are just a bunch of people who do whatever needs to get done, for whoever needs it.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

109 I always want to ask, "Okay, by 'reach out', what do you mean?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (c/EDo)

Reach out for ME!!!!!

Posted by: Levi Stubbs and the Four Tops at May 19, 2018 11:50 AM (7uYFy)

110 "Gonzo" journalism is something completely different. It's journalism that is indirectly about the journalist himself.

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It's the story of how they got the story in which the journalist is front and center and the story a distant second.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)

111 I can't blame Wolfe (or Thompson or Joan Didion for that matter) for the existence of the vapid Jim Acosta.


That's a problem that comes up in art threads, too. Picasso, Pollack, and even Rothko were important in changing how people see things.

People who tried to copy what they did were not.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:50 AM (fuK7c)

112

And who say "absolutely" for just yes.


I prefer Curly Howard's reply, "Soitenly!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (GdWl+)

113 The pleasantry that most irritates me is

"Have good rest of your day."

Grr. It's awkward and stilted, and absolutely grates.

I also dislike the redundant "five year anniversary." I even hear that on TV and the radio. Yrrggh!


I've always avoided "no problem," although I will catch myself using it addressing a friend. Never the general public.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (Mkuv2)

114 I thought i heard that Wolfe came up with "good ol' boys" and other catch phrases.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (aljs9)



Nah. That's been around forever.

I heard it as a wee tad in Texas.


Maybe Wolfe introduced the term to the Universe O'Yankees.


By the way, "good ole boy" wasn't used in the ironic, passive-aggressive negative manner way it's used now by Our Betters.

It was a positive, straight up compliment.

"You'll like Bubba. He's a good ole boy."

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (9q7Dl)

115 Was there a character modeled on Trump in that novel?


Hmmm. I haven't read it since then, but it does seem like there would have been.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (fuK7c)

116 I do like the Chick Fil-A version of you're welcome.

"My pleasure."

It's very folksy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 19, 2018 11:52 AM (Mkuv2)

117 The current crop of pygmies merits no consideration at all.
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The Munk Debates. The latest is featured in the sidebar. Astonishing because the US debaters were so totally clueless. Envy on parade. Highly recommended.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 11:52 AM (MIKMs)

118 "Gonzo" journalism is something completely different. It's journalism that is indirectly about the journalist himself.

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It's the story of how they got the story in which the journalist is front and center and the story a distant second.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)

True. But Gonzo and NewJourno are more like two strands of the same thing. Or maybe Gonzo is NewJourno on drugs.....

Posted by: Levi Stubbs and the Four Tops at May 19, 2018 11:53 AM (7uYFy)

119
Wolfe's "A Man in Full" is excellent. It captures the late 80's/early 90's go-go lifestyle perfectly. I don't know if he was conservative, but he was contrarian.
I loved that book.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM



Oh yes. Making Stoicism great again. Great book, great writer.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 11:54 AM (EzdLW)

120 bonfire captured everything then.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 11:54 AM (PUmDY)

121 I've largely adopted the Australian version of You're welcome: No worries. Goes over pretty well, at least in writing.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 11:54 AM (MIVQy)

122 Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (GdWl+)
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WHY SOITENLY

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 11:54 AM (y3aQB)

123 Mmm hm."

I prefer the simple snort of derision.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 11:54 AM (7LY+6)

124 I can't blame Wolfe (or Thompson or Joan Didion for that matter) for the existence of the vapid Jim Acosta.

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I blame tequila.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 11:56 AM (+y/Ru)

125 Stuff to go do. Don't start any new memes 'til I get back, mkay? Or at least keep track of them.

Ha?

Posted by: mindful webworker's sudden departure at May 19, 2018 11:56 AM (YdSkn)

126

I always want to ask, "Okay, by 'reach out', what do you mean?"

Here's another one: people "share" information instead of just telling about it.

Sounds smarmy to me.

But then again, a few decades ago there was a popular TV show "The Dukes of Hazzard." I can't count the number of times I saw the word "hazard" misspelled with 2 z's in the years that show was aired.

People are really weak.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 11:56 AM (GdWl+)

127 96 Serious question, other than running the houses, what do they do?

I don't think so. They're basically Ronald McDonald House, but for Troops families. But I shot the question off to Mr. Board of Directors. I'll let you know if he answers.
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Just my two cents, we are not seeing very many casualties these days but we do have a lot of veteran's children coming up on college expenses. I think there are a number of charities that help killed and disabled veteran's children with tuition costs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (vV/gB)

128 I saw Snort of Derision do a stand alone show in Cobo Arena in1975.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (eLgqt)

129
And who say "absolutely" for just yes.



Meh.

There's more than one way to say "yes" and I use them all.

However, I dislike the whole "no problem" from someone who's job it is to serve me, if I'm polite enough to say "thank you".

Of course, it's no problem, dipshit. It's your fucking job. I'm being polite.

A simple "You're welcome." or "My pleasure" is the proper response.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (9q7Dl)

130 "You'll like Bubba. He's a good ole boy."
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:51 AM (9q7Dl)

The Italian version is, "You'll like Rocco, he's a "goodfella"

Posted by: Henry Hill at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (7uYFy)

131 "In his book Wolfe centered on values which had no price and did not disappear with the flow of time. He decided to find out what makes people commit extraordinary deeds, overcome doubts and fear and make their job what others would call a heroic deed. Wolfe became fascinated by the characters of pilots and astronauts and as he himself wrote his book 'became a story of why men were willing - willing? - delighted! - to take on such odds in this, an era literary people had long since characterized as the age of the anti-hero'...."

--- Essay on The Right Stuff

https://bit.ly/2GvHUPK

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 11:58 AM (EzdLW)

132 "Absolutely" is an enthusiastic "yes."

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:58 AM (7uYFy)

133 Hmm. Did not know the wannabe king walked sparkle down the aisle. Where was her father?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 11:59 AM (7LY+6)

134 I find Tom Wolfe wordy, and I don't that that can be said in a good way. I bet I would have found him prattlesome and tedious in person.

Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2018 11:59 AM (VWE5i)

135
Reach out

https://youtu.be/yt6DvapiK-w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (IqV8l)

136 95 Weasel, I donated some to them and the DAV
Thanks
Tried to give to AMVets
Form would not go through so will send a check.
Thanks all for the good suggestions
Thanks all AOS Veterans

Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (PmCoA)

137 132 "Absolutely" is an enthusiastic "yes."
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 11:58 AM (7uYFy)
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Abso-fucking-loutely is more enthusiastic-er.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (MVjcR)

138 PaleRider, nothing wrong with Grumpy.that's usually my mood (just short of a-hole).

I'm giving some thought to Comical...like: No problem? Well you'd better watch out for this guy/girl behind me, then.

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (Roy2Z)

139

Hmm. Did not know the wannabe king walked sparkle down the aisle. Where was her father?

IIRC, heart problems.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (GdWl+)

140 I saw Snort of Derision do a stand alone show in Cobo Arena in1975

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On their second album they did a great cover of 'Cocaine'

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (eLgqt)

141 136 95 Weasel, I donated some to them and the DAV
Thanks
Tried to give to AMVets
Form would not go through so will send a check.
Thanks all for the good suggestions
Thanks all AOS Veterans
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (PmCoA)
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Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (MVjcR)

142 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested
-- Tom Wolfe

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)

143 However, I dislike the whole "no problem" from someone who's job it is to serve me, if I'm polite enough to say "thank you".


This is my problem with the entire country of Australia.

I have only been there once. You ask the waitress for salt. She brings it to you and you say "thank you". She says "no worries".

No worries? Why should I be worried about asking for salt, from a girl who's supposed to bring salt to a guy who asks for it, because salt would be good on the eggs she just brought?

I hate that. "You're welcome" is good. Everyone should be more American.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (fuK7c)

144 128 I saw Snort of Derision do a stand alone show in Cobo Arena in1975.
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Vlad, are you from Detroit?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (vV/gB)

145 IIRC, heart problems."

Real one, or "don't want him there" one?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (7LY+6)

146 And who say "absolutely" for just yes.

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Meh.

There's more than one way to say "yes" and I use them all.

However, I dislike the whole "no problem" from someone who's job it is to serve me, if I'm polite enough to say "thank you".

Of course, it's no problem, dipshit. It's your fucking job. I'm being polite.

A simple "You're welcome." or "My pleasure" is the proper response.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (9q7Dl)


For many of us, it is our job to express varying levels of approval and disapproval. How we respond is important. So I'm going to use every form of affirmation or dis-affirmation necessary, to give the listener a clear view of how I see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

147 135
Reach out

https://youtu.be/yt6DvapiK-w
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM
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Wow, the '70's. Not a cordless among them.

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:02 PM (Roy2Z)

148 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 12:02 PM (PUmDY)

149 Thanks all AOS Veterans
Posted by: lousagirl at May 19, 2018 12:00 PM (PmCoA)

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No problemo.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 19, 2018 12:03 PM (VHwfF)

150

Real one, or "don't want him there" one?

Not sure, but I can imagine his stress level is pretty high. May have required a hospitalization.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 19, 2018 12:03 PM (GdWl+)

151 but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel."

Fauxcahantas?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (7LY+6)

152 I find Tom Wolfe wordy, and I don't that that can be said in a good way.
Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2018 11:59 AM (VWE5i)


I agree entirely on the first point and disagree vehemently on the second. His style is crushingly verbose, but not one word is superfluous. His people used every part of the word, before the white man came.

Posted by: Gus Grissom at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (y87Qq)

153 Here's a good one:

I have no idea who coined the term 'the New Journalism,' or when it was coined. I have never even liked the term. Any movement, group, party, program, philosophy or theory that goes under a name with 'new' in it is just begging for trouble, of course
-- Tom Wolfe

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (EzdLW)

154 wait a tick, I'm not actually Gus Grissom.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (y87Qq)

155 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested if they're low IQ. If intelligent, they're a libertarian. Unless, they're a Pot Libertarian, in which case, they too are low IQ (and have moobs.)

-- Tom Wolfe

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)



Appended and improved for accuracy.

You're Welcome, Ghost of Tom Wolfe!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (9q7Dl)

156 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested
-- Tom Wolfe Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)
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Probably what I mourn the most in the divided 'culture' marketed by the MSM. No sense whatsoever of 'there but for the grace of god am I' with these people. Tear down the rule of law to spite the devil.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (MIKMs)

157 I find Tom Wolfe wordy, and I don't that that can be said in a good way. I bet I would have found him prattlesome and tedious in person.
Posted by: Downcast at May 19, 2018 11:59 AM (VWE5i)


I really do not mind a writer who seeks and uses words designed to be pleasing to the reader, as in, the language itself is part of the pursuit, not just the message.

However, Wolfe was one of those guys who, what little I read of him, I got the impression as he was writing, he was saying to himself "Oh, aren't I a clever sot!"

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:05 PM (cY3LT)

158 It just cost me $30 to throw away a ca. 1980 15" t.v. F-the watermelons!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 11:24 AM (ty7RM)

TV, remote site in countryside, .22 rifle. Some assembly required.

And when you are done, pick up the pieces, bash it down with a hammer, double-bag it, and place in your regular trash. Or somebody else's.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 12:05 PM (WFV7d)

159 Posted by: Gus Grissom


Oh, that nic carries a twinge.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:05 PM (fuK7c)

160 Vlad, are you from Detroit?

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Detroit area.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:05 PM (eLgqt)

161 154 wait a tick, I'm not actually Gus Grissom.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (y87Qq)

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Meh.

If buzzion can communicate from beyond...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM (VHwfF)

162 Retail and waitstaff work must be full of pitfalls these days. I wonder if some places have a little manual on expressions to avoid, and preferred terms. Using guys for folks turns some people completely off for instance. "what can I get you guys tonight?" to a mixed table, or H/W is a big no no for some stuffed shirt types.

But I think my favorite was this pious 'colorblind' person and she has a biracial granddaughter so she does live it, not just preaches it but once on FB she was all up in arms when, she, having failed to get the salesperson's name, just described what they were wearing and the cashier said "the black person" to confirm who it was as though using race as an identifying feature to make sure the right salesperson got the commission or credit was some kind of bigotry. I asked if someone refering to me as "the redhead" would be OK.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM (84F5k)

163 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel

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Call center or casino?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM (eLgqt)

164 4 Tops were very great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 12:07 PM (PUmDY)

165 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel
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Dot or woo-woo?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 12:07 PM (MVjcR)

166 Call center or casino?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM (eLgqt)

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LOL

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 19, 2018 12:08 PM (VHwfF)

167 160 Vlad, are you from Detroit?

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Detroit area.
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Went to Junior High there right after the riots. Detroit was still an impressive place then.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 12:08 PM (vV/gB)

168 Just seemed gratuitous

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 12:08 PM (PUmDY)

169
I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel

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Call center or casino?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM



Tomahawk or Tech Support?

Posted by: Hands, stealing other morons' lines at May 19, 2018 12:08 PM (EzdLW)

170 Mr. Board of Directors sends:

Our team at Fisher House raises money to build the houses as well as run them.
Independently, we have another board under the name of Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and we are building Brain Injury Centers for treating Warriors recovering from TBI's and Post Traumatic Stress.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 12:09 PM (MIVQy)

171 We must be doing something right.

Religion of Peace Update: Iranian President Rouhani: Muslim World Hates U.S. More Than Ever

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:09 PM (+y/Ru)

172 naturalflake: Of course, it's no problem, dipshit. It's your fucking job. I'm being polite.

Last year, at a resort, a busboy clearing some from the table responded "We're at your service"... I felt pretty good about that--until reading naturalflake. NF is absolutely right. Don't tell me that-- it's like the chef responding to me (after I complement a great dish) "Well, it's what you ordered!"

I'm following BurtTC's example: the accurate form of affirmation or dis-affirmation, as necessary

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:09 PM (Roy2Z)

173 And water is wet.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 19, 2018 12:09 PM (VHwfF)

174 Check out the debate in the sidebar. Of course that was a one sided intellect for Peterson and Frye.
Posted by: bananaDream at May 19, 2018 11:49 AM (yRBj9)


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Frye is on the *conservative* side? That's weird.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)

175 "the black person" to confirm who it was as though using race as an identifying feature to make sure the right salesperson got the commission or credit was some kind of bigotry. I asked if someone refering to me as "the redhead" would be OK.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM (84F5k)

Reminds me of a UFC fight I watched once. The bout had just started and Mike Goldberg was identifying the fighters: Jones is in the yellow trunks and Smith is in the black trunks.

Joe Rogen asked rhetorically: wouldn't it be easier to say Jones is the black guy and Smith is the white guy?

Goldberg kind of got flustered and said, can't really do that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 19, 2018 12:11 PM (Mkuv2)

176 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested
-- Tom Wolfe Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)
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Probably what I mourn the most in the divided 'culture' marketed by the MSM. No sense whatsoever of 'there but for the grace of god am I' with these people. Tear down the rule of law to spite the devil.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (MIKMs)


Absolute truth: There are whole swaths of this country, where kids (mostly boys) grow up being taught there is nothing in the "common culture" that is worth preserving, and they owe nothing to it.

So when they are ground up and spit out into the Prison Industrial Complex, these are often people for whom there was little chance they would end up any other way. In prison or dead.

So there's some sympathy due to such sorry folks. Some, and only some, whereas the social structure in which they are created, and the evil left wing political structure that perpetuates it... well there is no sympathy, no mitigation, and no quarter. They are the enemy, and must be destroyed.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:11 PM (cY3LT)

177 After all this mean publicity about the school shooter, We must be on guard against the massive backlash against innocent bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshippers. H8Rs gotta H8.

Posted by: mindful webworker - noose you can yoose at May 19, 2018 11:16 AM (YdSkn)



The left has done everything it can to destroy the family, tradition and what was normal in this country so that no one bats an eye about a bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshippers. Good thing they got rid of that Leave to Beaver world. After all Eddie Haskell giving someone the business was soooo much worse than a bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshipper shooting up a school

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (SiINZ)

178
I have no idea who coined the term 'the New Journalism,' or when it was coined. I have never even liked the term. Any movement, group, party, program, philosophy or theory that goes under a name with 'new' in it is just begging for trouble, of course -- Tom Wolfe

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (EzdLW)


It's the same thing they do with socialism. They try to repackage old ideas as new and fresh. If anything The New Journalism is just reversing the idea of an unbiased press that didn't emerge until afterWWII. For most of it's history journalism has been sleazy

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (10vO4)

179 Frye is on the *conservative* side? That's weird.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)


Not conservative, more "P.C. is dumb and SJWs should feel bad". Fry's the one, remember, who said "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (y87Qq)

180 >>>The phrase 'You're welcome' had gone the way of the jukebox. It seems.

Posted by: socalcon<<<
Not a problem.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (J7XgW)

181 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?
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I always want to ask, "Okay, by 'reach out', what do you mean?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (c/EDo)

IMHO, "reach out" should only be used when referring to someone making an extraordinary effort to contact another person.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (WFV7d)

182 Joe Rogen asked rhetorically: wouldn't it be easier to say Jones is the black guy and Smith is the white guy?


This was maddening back when if you're a certain version of 29 and you grew up with black and white TV. "Jones is in the green trunks and Smith is in the blue trunks".

Yeah, Jones is the black guy, Smith is the white guy would have helped.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (fuK7c)

183 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel

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Call center or casino?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM


Taj Mahal or Mounds?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (gyfiU)

184
Went to Junior High there right after the riots. Detroit was still an impressive place then

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I was off in New Mexico hiking with the Boy Scouts when that went down. First we knew about it was seen a 3 day old paper reporting the 101st deploying. Anxious.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (eLgqt)

185 OK. Off to the pet store to buy some fish for the tank. Back later.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (MVjcR)

186 Yeah, when I go to a restaurant, this is the kind of service I expect from my waiter.

https://youtu.be/Z9VLwV48OHs?t=17

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (/qEW2)

187 Mr. Board of Directors sends:

Our team at Fisher House raises money to build the houses as well as run them.
Independently, we have another board under the name of Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and we are building Brain Injury Centers for treating Warriors recovering from TBI's and Post Traumatic Stress.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 19, 2018 12:09 PM (MIVQy)


Interesting! There's a lot not being said here. Specifically, why are they creating centers for treatment, when that's pretty much PRECISELY what the VA exists for!

I'm not in any way questioning their purpose, I just find it interesting that they see it as a necessity.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:15 PM (cY3LT)

188 a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested

Wolfe seems to have thought that the 'liberal' was mainly a civil libertarian. I can respect that sort of liberal.

Honestly I don't even like to use the term 'liberal' to describe the SJW statists, who are tyrants.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 12:16 PM (6FqZa)

189 The suspected gunman, who carried a Remington 870 shotgun and a .38 caliber pistol during the spree

Doesn't specify which gauge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:16 PM (+y/Ru)

190
After all Eddie Haskell giving someone the business was soooo much worse than a bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshipper shooting up a school
Posted by: TheQuietMan


Pipe down, squirt!

Posted by: Eddie Haskell at May 19, 2018 12:16 PM (IqV8l)

191 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel

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Call center or casino?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM

Taj Mahal or Mounds?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (gyfiU)



Buffalo or Brahman?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 12:17 PM (9q7Dl)

192
I was off in New Mexico hiking with the Boy Scouts when that went down. First we knew about it was seen a 3 day old paper reporting the 101st deploying. Anxious.


Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (eLgqt)


I won't report you to the proper authorities this. But in future remember it's Xer Scouts

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (10vO4)

193 176: Rush had a caller who found Rush in prison after losing TV privileges for fighting and getting tired of repeat play lists for music and it turned his life around. Caller said his family was conservative but the constant drumbeat in school and on TV of "police are out to get you; whitey stacked the deck and you can't prosper" did nudge him to have no respect for authority or rules. It was a very interesting call.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (84F5k)

194 innocent bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshippers

But first, he will blow me.

Posted by: big bubba, the not-quite-so-innocent commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshipper in Cell Block B at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (6FqZa)

195 Call center or casino?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM

Taj Mahal or Mounds?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (gyfiU)

Buffalo or Brahman?
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 12:17 PM (9q7Dl)


Pemmican or pakora?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (y87Qq)

196 I love hearing news reports about a horrible crime in a city and the reporter finishes by telling everyone to be on the lookout for a man. Maybe a man in a grey shirt.

I really, truly believe they don't realize that viewers / listeners don't know exactly what they are trying to avoid saying, and I don't think they realize how much worse they make it by trying that approach.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (VgKNm)

197 I will sound like a jerk, but cnn had an Indian lady on their panel

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Call center or casino?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at May 19, 2018 12:06 PM

Taj Mahal or Mounds?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:14 PM (gyfiU)


Some people. All they ever think about is bewbs.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:19 PM (cY3LT)

198 Honestly I don't even like to use the term 'liberal' to describe the SJW statists, who are tyrants.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 12:16 PM (6FqZa)


I prefer to just use the term "leftists". As all leftists are statist and tyrants, at heart, your description is also correct, though a bit more general.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:19 PM (gyfiU)

199 Frye is on the *conservative* side? That's weird.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)
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Both Frye and Peterson are classical liberals and appalled by the 'newspeak' prevalent in even formal academic discourse. The idiot progressives in the debate demonstrated their envy and ugly prejudice masquerading as 'liberal' rather than 'my turn' reparations and authoritarianism. The US debaters lost bigly, btw.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

200 Some people. All they ever think about is bewbs.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:19 PM (cY3LT)

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Sorry, I was researching something in another tab. What were we talking about?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:20 PM (VgKNm)

201 >>The phrase 'You're welcome' had gone the way of the jukebox. It seems.

Posted by: socalcon
Not a problem.
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM

{scanning the area for security cameras, before the throat-punch}

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:20 PM (Roy2Z)

202 Student Isabelle Laymance, who hid for safety in a closet during the attack, told The Washington Post the alleged gunman seemed uncertain after police made contact.

"'I'll surrender, but I need y'all to talk to me. I can't hear you, I think I've blown my eardrum out. Can y'all get a megaphone? Don't get near me. I'll come out to y'all,'" she said he told police.

"Then he said, 'Give me a second, I'm thinking,' and while he said that, you could hear him reloading his gun. And then the cop would step closer and he would shoot. And he said, 'Don't get closer to me,'" she said, adding that after a few minutes, he did give himself up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)

203 184
Went to Junior High there right after the riots. Detroit was still an impressive place then

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I was off in New Mexico hiking with the Boy Scouts when that went down. First we knew about it was seen a 3 day old paper reporting the 101st deploying. Anxious.
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We must be the same age. I watched the DC riots from Alexandria. Deja Vu, did the same for 911.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 19, 2018 12:21 PM (vV/gB)

204 176: Rush had a caller who found Rush in prison after losing TV privileges for fighting and getting tired of repeat play lists for music and it turned his life around. Caller said his family was conservative but the constant drumbeat in school and on TV of "police are out to get you; whitey stacked the deck and you can't prosper" did nudge him to have no respect for authority or rules. It was a very interesting call.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (84F5k)


Yes. That's the sad part. At least SOME of these people, if they were exposed to a different point of view, they might decide on a different path in life.

But they are never exposed to it. Just go through life believing what is pounded into their heads from the start: That WE, the dominant culture, are the cause of all their troubles.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:22 PM (cY3LT)

205 Buffalo or Brahman?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 12:17 PM (9q7Dl)


Turquoise or Diamond?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:22 PM (gyfiU)

206 Not a problem.
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Teenaged Chicken Vendor at May 19, 2018 12:22 PM (4bKiB)

207
Rush had a caller who found Rush in prison after losing TV privileges for fighting and getting tired of repeat play lists for music and it turned his life around. Caller said his family was conservative but the constant drumbeat in school and on TV of "police are out to get you; whitey stacked the deck and you can't prosper" did nudge him to have no respect for authority or rules. It was a very interesting call.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:18 PM (84F5k)


Imagine all the blacks guys in prison who think they were framed and railroaded by law enforcement sitting in the television room watching democrats defend the FBI and Justice Dept.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 12:23 PM (10vO4)

208 I've always just heard: feather or dot

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 12:23 PM (kufk0)

209 I've always just heard: feather or dot

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2018 12:23 PM (kufk0)


Ashram or reservation?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:25 PM (gyfiU)

210 142 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested
-- Tom Wolfe
Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)


That's an outstanding quote. We're all familiar with the first part, but the second part is just as important. And even more so as the rule of law breaks down and people are arrested for political offenses.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 12:25 PM (sdi6R)

211 When I was attempting a career as a Navy pilot back in the 1970s, a Tom Wolfe short story "Jousting with SAM and Charlie" made the rounds of the squadron. No other writer managed to capture the sights, sounds, smells and "feeling" of the art of landing a tactical jet aircraft on a what he described as, best I can recall, a "small, hot, flat, greasy, heaving skillet", a.k.a, an aircraft carrier. Great reading.

Posted by: George V at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (LUHWu)

212 Sanskrit or Pre-lit?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (gyfiU)

213 Student Isabelle Laymance, who hid for safety in a closet during the attack, told The Washington Post the alleged gunman seemed uncertain after police made contact.

"'I'll surrender, but I need y'all to talk to me. I can't hear you, I think I've blown my eardrum out. Can y'all get a megaphone? Don't get near me. I'll come out to y'all,'" she said he told police

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F*ck you to any law enforcement who wants to complain about concealed carry holders who dare have the temerity to defend their friends and family in case the cops show up and can't tell who the good guys are in a shootout.

99% of them obviously aren't coming in until the shooting stops anyway, so they can sort it out with the megaphone after I'm done protecting my kids.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (VgKNm)

214 We must be doing something wrong.

Sharia Law Update: Fox News Gets Woke With Meditation Room, Complete With Prayer Rugs

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)

215 I've always just heard: feather or dot


Clovis or Aryan.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (fuK7c)

216 Others though, I'm like "Come on, people. Some of this stuff happening in the world... can we drop the game playing here?"

Posted by: BurtTC
******************

AoS comments is like recess on the playground.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 12:28 PM (8JE5H)

217 Rain dance or Sati?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:28 PM (gyfiU)

218 198 Honestly I don't even like to use the term 'liberal' to describe the SJW statists, who are tyrants.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 19, 2018 12:16 PM
~~~
re: the use of 'liberal'...
While filling my work thermos with coffee this am, mrs. socalcon was watching that hideous wedding coverage. commentator (British gal) was explaining the title earl of sussex (or some such thing). Mentioned the last (100 years ago) was Liberal--against slavery. (um, I thought that was a conservative position 100 years ago- can't trust those Limeys)

WTHF? Had to sprint to the F-150 before my head exploded. (I'm not permitted to debate the TV set.)

Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:29 PM (Roy2Z)

219 Bonfire of the Vanities is a very great book. I read the whole thing in about 3 days because I could not put it down. I couldn't wait to start reading it again after work. Don't bother with the movie. They watered it down and made it PC and the whole appeal of the novel was that it was not PC - it took a merciless look at race relations and the media in contemporary America. I thought of "The Great White Defendant" liberal DA's long to prosecute when Zimmerman was turned into a White Hispanic. 30 years before Ferguson, Wolfe wrote about white reporters transforming sketchy black street thugs into blameless martyrs.

What made Wolfe special was that while he was a part of the upper crust Manhattan world, he had little reverence for it and it he did not have contempt for the rest of America. He left NY to go out into "flyover country" (I think he came up with that one too) to talk to people about cars or NASA or hooking up on college campuses or Atlanta real estate or life in prison or - well, just about anything. And he didn't pretend to be anyone else but Tom Wolfe when he was doing it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 12:29 PM (H80UQ)

220 When I need real inspiration: Black Throated Wind.
Loud.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 12:29 PM (RuIsu)

221 If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested if they're low IQ. If intelligent, they're a libertarian. Unless, they're a Pot Libertarian, in which case, they too are low IQ (and have moobs.)

-- Tom Wolfe

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:01 PM (EzdLW)

Appended and improved for accuracy.

You're Welcome, Ghost of Tom Wolfe!
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 12:04 PM (9q7Dl)


========

That quote made no sense. Liberals enjoy mugging people, using the power of the state, which is part of the reason conservatives choose conservatism. And we all know liberals who ought to be arrested.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:30 PM (/qEW2)

222 >>>AoS comments is like recess on the playground.<<<
Our favorite playground game involved a football was called smear the queer. This is worthy of the death penalty in today's world of special snowflakes and buttercups.

Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 12:31 PM (J7XgW)

223 I wonder if Wolfe was buried in his white suit? He never wore anything else so I can't imagine not ... unless someone was playing a final joke on him and did it in bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:32 PM (gyfiU)

224 And he didn't pretend to be anyone else but Tom Wolfe when he was doing it.


This came up when we were talking about him on the book of faces.

"Meanwhile here's a neat item via David Frum: Wolfe once explained his dandified wardrobe:

Try to interview hippies or NASCAR fans dressed like one of themselves - they'll instantly sniff you out as a fraud.

Show up dressed like the Man From Mars, and they'll tell you all you wish to know. People love explaining things"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:33 PM (fuK7c)

225 Eat beef or worship beef?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:33 PM (+y/Ru)

226 Hunter Thompson was Gonzo.
Both arose out of the same conditions of the 1960s.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 11:40 AM (fuK7c)

Yup....I liked "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72".

Still humping the American Dream.

Never trust a cop in a raincoat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (EoRCO)

227 TV, remote site in countryside, .22 rifle. Some disassembly required.

FIFY

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (brIR5)

228 What made Wolfe special was that while he was a part of the upper crust Manhattan world, he had little reverence for it and it he did not have contempt for the rest of America....
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 12:29 PM (H80UQ)

Sounds like someone we all know. Bigly.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (7uYFy)

229 207: The democrats have gotten away with falsifying history for like 120 years. I hope that Kanye is defiant enough to keep sharing bits of truth he is finding from Sowell, Walther E Williams etc. and a good segment of his 28 million followers realize some truth now.

It was the DEMs who founded KKK, and LBJ hated your guts and structured the "great society" to keep you in the ghettos with the meager bribes after the R's (who yes many were and are sanctimonious, bigoted, gated neighborhood elitists who want you free from oppression but not in their country clubs) got the Civil Rights Act passed and took away much of the Democrat brute force options.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 19, 2018 12:35 PM (84F5k)

230 Eat beef or worship beef?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:33 PM (+y/Ru)


Very good. Which begs the question:

Bison or Cow?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:35 PM (gyfiU)

231 Never trust a cop in a raincoat.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (EoRCO)

Or ANYONE in a trench coat. Especially when it's not raining.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 12:35 PM (7uYFy)

232 Of course, it's no problem, dipshit. It's your fucking job. I'm being polite.

A simple "You're welcome." or "My pleasure" is the proper response.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 11:57 AM (9q7Dl)

How about if they respond to "Thank you!" with "It's my fucking job". I prefer the more generic response "Blow me."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 19, 2018 12:36 PM (9BLnV)

233 I've always just heard: feather or dot


Clovis or Aryan.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM (fuK7c)

Firewater or Slurpee?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 12:36 PM (7uYFy)

234 Or ANYONE in a trench coat. Especially when it's not raining.


You never know.

Posted by: Rick Blaine at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (fuK7c)

235 Gandhi or Geronimo?

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (EzdLW)

236 Yup....I liked "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72".

Still humping the American Dream.

Never trust a cop in a raincoat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (EoRCO)


Hunter Thompson was fun to read, but he went totally, ridiculously, insanely leftist in his last couple of decades. He was just a funny leftist who loved guns before that but then he went totally over the top and stopped being funny or witty or anything. He should have taken himself out 20 years earlier than he did.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)

237 When I was attempting a career as a Navy pilot back in the 1970s, a Tom Wolfe short story "Jousting with SAM and Charlie" made the rounds of the squadron. No other writer managed to capture the sights, sounds, smells and "feeling" of the art of landing a tactical jet aircraft on a what he described as, best I can recall, a "small, hot, flat, greasy, heaving skillet", a.k.a, an aircraft carrier. Great reading.

Posted by: George V
***********************


Of all the nerve, Esquire requires a subscription.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (8JE5H)

238 >>>AoS comments is like recess on the playground.


Our favorite playground game involved a football was called smear the queer. This is worthy of the death penalty in today's world of special snowflakes and buttercups.
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2018 12:31 PM (J7XgW)


Oh, that takes me back. We had a form of murderball game we played, which was amazingly fun, because it had rules, but there was always a point at which the decision got made by ONE guy, to suspend the rules, and everyone complied! Like it was a rule.

Anyhoo, we had a young attractive teacher, who very seriously one day, had us in the classroom, telling us when we were out there playing this game, we looked like a bunch of gay homosexuals.

Honestly, it was the funniest thing I had encountered, up to that point in my life. We were in 8th grade, and she was the person who introduced us to the concept of camel toe and upskirts. All the 8th grade girls hated her intensely, because none of the boys paid any attention to them, when she was around. But there she was, calling us queers. If she only knew... I don't think we understood the word "irony" at that point in our lives... had she been a better teacher, perhaps we would have. But man oh man, was it a sweet and funny thing, to have her sincerely questioning our collective heterosexuality. Because we were damn near killing each other on the playground.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:39 PM (cY3LT)

239 Hunter Thompson was fun to read, but he went totally, ridiculously, insanely leftist in his last couple of decades. He was just a funny leftist who loved guns before that but then he went totally over the top and stopped being funny or witty or anything. He should have taken himself out 20 years earlier than he did.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)

Ether binges....they get to you after a while.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 12:39 PM (0+nbW)

240 Hunter Thompson was fun to read, but he went totally, ridiculously, insanely leftist in his last couple of decades. He was just a funny leftist who loved guns before that but then he went totally over the top and stopped being funny or witty or anything. He should have taken himself out 20 years earlier than he did.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)

Not an exact comparison, but comedian George Carlin was a little like that too. He was always a lefty, but he skewered liberals and their institutions as much as he skewered anyone. But he got angry and bitter and less funny towards the end too.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 12:40 PM (7uYFy)

241 6 Does anyone have a suggestion for the best Veteran charity I can donate to

Posted by: lousagirl

I'll need campaign funds soon enough.

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at May 19, 2018 12:40 PM (IeDO8)

242 There's a scene in Wolfe's novel "A Man in Full" that has stayed with me: Conrad, the young hero of the book has escaped from prison after being wrongly imprisoned. I can't remember how exactly he gets involved with a elderly college professor and his wife as a helper/companion sort but he does. Connie then finds out that the couple, whose urban neighborhood has definitely decayed, are paying street thugs protection money. When they come to collect, Connie, who has done a lot of physical labor and picked up street smarts in prison, threatens them with a broken bottle and drives them off.

Throughout the novel, Connie's masculinity is feared and despised by other characters but when the shit hits the fan in that scene, the intellectual professor is helpless and scared shitless and it's the guy with the "toxic masculinity" who can successfully drive the jackals away.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 12:42 PM (H80UQ)

243
When I was attempting a career as a Navy pilot back in the 1970s, a Tom Wolfe short story "Jousting with SAM and Charlie" made the rounds of the squadron. No other writer managed to capture the sights, sounds, smells and "feeling" of the art of landing a tactical jet aircraft on a what he described as, best I can recall, a "small, hot, flat, greasy, heaving skillet", a.k.a, an aircraft carrier. Great reading.
Posted by: George V at May 19, 2018 12:26 PM



"Jousting with SAM and Charlie" is really good. You can see Wolfe just beginning his curiosity about what made someone not just want to be a Navy pilot, but to almost crave the danger. Which eventually led to him coining the term "The Right Stuff" and writing a novel about it.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:43 PM (EzdLW)

244 Senator Chris Murphy brings teh stupid:

Chris Murphy
@ChrisMurphyCT
I support the real 2nd Amendment, not the imaginary 2nd Amendment.

And the real #2A isn't absolute. It allows Congress to wake up to reality and ban these assault rifles that are designed for one purpose only - to kill as many people as fast as possible.

-
If only we'd confiscated all AR-15 after the Parkland school shooting, Santa Fe would never have happened.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2018 12:43 PM (+y/Ru)

245 He should have taken himself out 20 years earlier than he did.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)

Yup....he was crazy as a shit house rat. Fun, yes, but absolutely nuts.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 12:43 PM (EoRCO)

246 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 12:34 PM (EoRCO)

Hunter Thompson was fun to read, but he went totally, ridiculously, insanely leftist in his last couple of decades. He was just a funny leftist who loved guns before that but then he went totally over the top and stopped being funny or witty or anything. He should have taken himself out 20 years earlier than he did.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)


I was very sad when I heard he killed himself.

Because, by that time in his life, it made absolute perfect sense that he should do so. In the particularly gruesome way he did.

A sad, angry, lonely, and ultimately pointless man. Who had a genius for writing.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:45 PM (cY3LT)

247 218
Mentioned the last (100 years ago) was Liberal--against slavery. (um, I thought that was a conservative position 100 years ago- can't trust those Limeys)
Posted by: socalcon at May 19, 2018 12:29 PM (Roy2Z)


In 19th Century England , a liberal was one who supported radical notions of individual liberty and economic liberty, aka free market capitalism. (Hence the modern term "classical liberal".) A conservative was one who supported the traditional privileges of the hereditary nobility and the landed aristocracy.

Today's left-wing Democrats and speech police are thoroughly totalitarian and tyrannical, and there isn't the slightest thing "liberal" about them. In modern-day America, "conservatives" want to conserve the Constitution form of government. But the Western media often uses "conservative" to describe fanatical Muslims who demand strict obedience to the dictates of the Koran.

The "gender fluid" terminology has nothing on the fluidity of the words "liberal" and "conservative" over time and across cultures.



Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 12:45 PM (sdi6R)

248 Which eventually led to him coining the term "The Right Stuff" and writing a novel about it.

Posted by: Hands at May 19, 2018 12:43 PM (EzdLW)


Wolfe used the phrase "the right stuff" to good effect but he certainly didn't create it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:45 PM (gyfiU)

249 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:37 PM (gyfiU)

Not an exact comparison, but comedian George Carlin was a little like that too. He was always a lefty, but he skewered liberals and their institutions as much as he skewered anyone. But he got angry and bitter and less funny towards the end too.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 12:40 PM (7uYFy)


I was thinking the same thing. An apt comparison, I believe.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2018 12:46 PM (cY3LT)

250 40

That moment when you realize that you just opened a can of black olives and not black beans to put in your pot of chili......oh well, into the pot you go....*


*eyes carrots in fridge


0_0 NO. Just NO. NO Carrots in chili.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin (thought leader)

Put in extra figs and beets to offset the bitterness of the olives.

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at May 19, 2018 12:47 PM (IeDO8)

251 Curry or Coup?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 19, 2018 12:48 PM (QLvwG)

252 Thugs or Braves?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:48 PM (gyfiU)

253 Tom Wolfe was my gateway drug to conservatism. I was 14 in 1968 and spent the next 10 years as a '60s radical wannabe. Then I happened on to an old paperback of Radical Chic. I quickly followed that up with Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. They made me question my assumptions. I mainlined his other books as fast as I could. In 1980 Ronald Reagan happened and my conversion was complete.

Posted by: Grannysaurus Rex at May 19, 2018 12:49 PM (90LWK)

254 I'm pretty certain the real 2nd Amendment says I can have an A10 and assorted ammunition if I can afford it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:50 PM (VgKNm)

255 >>>But I think my favorite was this pious 'colorblind' person and she has a biracial granddaughter so she does live it, not just preaches it

If she were really "living it" wouldn't she have a biracial daughter? Can't really do anything about your granddaughter. And if she were colorblind, how would she even know that her granddaughter was biracial?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:51 PM (/qEW2)

256 Check out the debate in the sidebar. Of course that was a one sided intellect for Peterson and Frye.
Posted by: bananaDream at May 19, 2018 11:49 AM (yRBj9)

========

Frye is on the *conservative* side? That's weird.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)



I don't know which side of the aisle he's on politically but I've heard him say how much against he is of the PC mindset that is taking over. You can't say this or everything is offensive. (bahhh)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 12:52 PM (SiINZ)

257 We're operating under the "abortion is mentioned in the Constitution" standard these days, so I'm going to assume the modern 2nd is exactly what these heavily protected individuals desire.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:52 PM (VgKNm)

258 I'm pretty certain the real 2nd Amendment says I can have an A10 and assorted ammunition if I can afford it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:50 PM (VgKNm)


Sure, but the FAA will never give you clearance to take off.

So you need to get your own aircraft carrier, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:52 PM (gyfiU)

259 Gardening Thread is up. Or you can hang around here if you want.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 19, 2018 12:53 PM (BVQ+1)

260 In modern-day America, "conservatives" want to conserve the Constitutional form of government.

Except for professional "conservatives" like Bill Kristol, George Will, and Max Boot, who mainly want to conserve their invitations to parties, magazine subscriptions, and sales of cruise tickets.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 12:53 PM (sdi6R)

261 104 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?
-----------

I always want to ask, "Okay, by 'reach out', what do you mean?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2018 11:48 AM (c/EDo)


"You're mistaken. I'm not one of the Four Tops."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2018 12:54 PM (jScj0)

262 Dontcha just hate people that use "reaching out" to say call, or write, or contact?

I have no problem with "reach out" but if it annoys you then blame AT+T's ad agency.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:56 PM (gyfiU)

263 Wolfe's term for wealthy and extremely thin Manhattan ladies: social X-rays.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 19, 2018 12:57 PM (H80UQ)

264 http://bit.ly/2LfZ47p
======
Nolte: New York Times' Maggie Haberman Blames Trump for Media's 'Animal' Fake News

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 12:59 PM (y3aQB)

265 https://nyti.ms/2L9LcM9
+++++
REAGAN AIDES DESCRIBE OPERATION TO GATHER INSIDE DATA ON CARTER - The New York Times
+++++
Deep State Turd Stefan Halper back then

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 01:01 PM (y3aQB)

266 Nolte: New York Times' Maggie Haberman Blames Trump for Media's 'Animal' Fake News

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 12:59 PM (y3aQB)


He made them lie about him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 01:03 PM (SiINZ)

267
I'm pretty certain the real 2nd Amendment says I can have an A10 and assorted ammunition if I can afford it.



Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:50 PM (VgKNm)



Sure, but the FAA will never give you clearance to take off.



So you need to get your own aircraft carrier, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2018 12:52 PM (gyfiU)

There's a sweet one at the pier down in Corpus Christi. And a companion battlewagon up the coast. The latter needs some work though to stay afloat.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 19, 2018 01:07 PM (QLvwG)

268
I'm pretty certain the real 2nd Amendment says I can have an A10 and assorted ammunition if I can afford it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 12:50 PM (VgKNm)


After all an A-10 is just a personal aircraft that comes with a factory equip open carry permit

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 01:08 PM (10vO4)

269 "It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."
Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 12:13 PM (y87Qq)


That's certainly true - leftists trying to shut down discussion by injecting their feelings rather than arguing the other side is wrong. He was good in Blackadder, nice to see he's got his head screwed on right on this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2018 01:11 PM (/qEW2)

270 Breaking News: Tom Wolfe, gateway drug to conservationism!

H/T: Grannysaurus Rex
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I'm pretty certain the real 2nd Amendment says I can have an A10 and assorted ammunition if I can afford it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
----------------------------

Only if you can pick it up and walk away with it.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 01:30 PM (zdltJ)

271 Dot or Feather - the plot so far

...an Indian lady...

Dot or woo-woo?

Call center or casino?

Tomahawk or Tech Support?

Taj Mahal or Mounds?

Buffalo or Brahman?

Pemmican or pakora?

Turquoise or Diamond?

Ashram or reservation?

Sanskrit or Pre-lit?

Clovis or Aryan

Eat beef or worship beef?

Bison or Cow?

Firewater or Slurpee?

Gandhi or Geronimo?

Curry or Coup?

Thugs or Braves?

____________
Sorry if I missed any and for no credits to the wits.

Posted by: mindful webworker - archivally at May 19, 2018 01:47 PM (YdSkn)

272 mindful webworker - archivally

Tis a good list. Thank you.


The last item should be Thuggee or Braves, IMHO

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 01:54 PM (hyuyC)

273 And who say "absolutely" for just yes.



Indeed.

Posted by: Teal'c at May 19, 2018 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

274 And who say "absolutely" for just yes.

What?

Posted by: Guy who always says "what?" at May 19, 2018 02:01 PM (BsGS1)

275 Who are those New York twats on the magazine cover?

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 19, 2018 02:04 PM (Sda6L)

276 I don't think the Founders owned A-10's and we all know the 2A limits us to owning weapons only available when the Founders still lived.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 19, 2018 02:12 PM (rBnYq)

277 I don't think the Founders owned A-10's and we all know the 2A limits us to owning weapons only available when the Founders still lived.


So, cannon.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 02:13 PM (yQpMk)

278 While driving around doing my errands I heard "Prayer In Open D", a song Emmylou Harris wrote and someone called Patty Griffin sang. Fantastic song.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8qdnx8l

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 19, 2018 02:15 PM (rBnYq)

279 Anyone have an extra $500k for a cup of coffee?

Posted by: Glenn Beck! at May 19, 2018 02:16 PM (r9UYA)

280 I'm not going to lie, I'd love to own a cannon. And a Gatling Gun for my car would be a good feature. When some nut starts clogging up the left lane (and we get a lot of South Asians and Chinese drivers who apparently are taught that is the slow lane) , I think a gun like that would be very useful.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 19, 2018 02:17 PM (rBnYq)

281 I'm still stuck on incredulous, because someone said earlier that the chick who married Prince Harry spent $430,000 on her wedding dress. Gee whiz.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 19, 2018 02:19 PM (rBnYq)

282 Who are those New York twats on the magazine cover?
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 19, 2018 02:04 PM (Sda6L)

That's the cover of the June, 8th 1970 issue of New York magazine in which Tom Wolfe's essay "Radical Chic" originally appeared. I'm not sure who those women on the cover are but they are raising their fist in a black power salute--wearing black gloves.

The article was about a party Leonard Bernstein and his wife/beard held in their Park Avenue apartment for the Black Panthers.

Tom Wolfe rightfully skewered these pompous liberals.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2018 02:21 PM (7uYFy)

283 Naan or frybread?

Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2018 02:25 PM (FhXTo)

284 Weasel, you in the house?

Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2018 02:26 PM (l3msd)

285
A: Fried green tomatoes.


Q: What do you call those hags on the cover when they stand naked over a mirror?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 19, 2018 02:27 PM (WtQOO)

286 Comment

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 02:52 PM (Ak/GS)

287 Looks loke The Horde is out doing Saturday stuff

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2018 02:53 PM (Ak/GS)

288 watching Dr No on tv

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 02:57 PM (hMwEB)

289 Jack Lord is so handsome
I understand my mom's crush on him LOL

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 02:58 PM (hMwEB)

290 I've just started watching the debate in the right sidebar.

Michelle Goldberg is definitely a 1.

OK, back to the debate.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 02:59 PM (sdi6R)

291 pet nood

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 03:03 PM (hMwEB)

292
Who are those New York twats on the magazine cover?
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 19, 2018 02:04 PM (Sda6L)


I believe the woman on the left is Felicia Montealegre. wife of Leonard Bernstein.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 19, 2018 03:03 PM (10vO4)

293 Michael Dyson is a nasty racist.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 03:21 PM (sdi6R)

294 Michael Dyson is a thoroughly repugnant, dishonest Marxist. He exemplifies the evil in today's academia.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 03:49 PM (sdi6R)

295 Dyson, his vacuum cleaners are expensive.

Posted by: gNewt at May 19, 2018 04:11 PM (Bk0n1)

296 Michael Dyson is a thoroughly repugnant, dishonest Marxist. He exemplifies the evil in today's academia.


I liked him on ST:NG.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:37 PM (yQpMk)

297 Looks loke The Horde is out doing Saturday stuff

I just broke a 3 year old orange tree. I thought I had just enough room to drop a small oak and I missed my spot by about 20 inches and landed on the Satsuma. I was just going to cut it off and see if it had enough life to sprout all new branches from the stump but Mrs928 insisted on splinting it back to see if it will mend.

I don't have high hopes for that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2018 04:42 PM (yQpMk)

298 http://bit.ly/2IBgx8C
+++++
Consensus' Reached to Slash $370 Billion U.S. Trade Deficit with China | Breitbart

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 05:13 PM (y3aQB)

299 There's a sweet one at the pier down in Corpus Christi. And a companion battlewagon up the coast. The latter needs some work though to stay afloat.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 19, 2018 01:07 PM (QLvwG)

I suspect Lady Lex needs some major engine work. Didn't one of her turbines seize up?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 05:14 PM (Fbs6W)

300 299
I suspect Lady Lex needs some major engine work. Didn't one of her turbines seize up?
Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2018 05:14 PM (Fbs6W)


Lady Lex (CV-2) rests in peace at the bottom of the Pacific. I don't think CV-16 was ever called that. Her nickname was "The Blue Ghost".

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 05:48 PM (sdi6R)

301 Tom Wolfe was a great writer.
bye, Tom.
Thanks.

Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at May 19, 2018 07:38 PM (v8mM1)

Weird News Dump

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(Please enjoy!)


Good morning Horde. Let's take a look at a few things that didn't get too much attention here at the AoSHQ this past week. Feel free to discuss these items or something else in this open thread.


***


Enjoy these and your caffeinated beverage. No running with sharp objects and leave the 'ettes pony tails alone.

Have a great weekend!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 07:31 AM




Comments

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1 Morning again!

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:26 AM (8ikIW)

2 Airborne beer keg vid will scare the stuff out of you

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:28 AM (8ikIW)

3 Guten morgen horden!!!


Wedding dress has a nice neckline

I hoep it sets a trend toward more modest gowns here in the USA - I always feel bad for brides squeezed into wedding gowns that are half lingerie.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2018 08:29 AM (hMwEB)

4 Top ten

Posted by: Hillary's Soiled Undies at May 19, 2018 08:29 AM (R5lpX)

5 Repost

Ibguy sent me a link to a free ebook that he published on behalf of a scientist friend of his who had passed away.

It's titled A Scientist in Search of God and it's on lulu.

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2018 08:29 AM (hMwEB)

6 From the hacking link...

Drivers on Interstate 95 Sunday in Ridley Park said they were surprised to spot the sign Sunday morning with a profane message instructing Delaware County to "suck" a certain male organ.


A certain? male organ? How many are there?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (8ikIW)

7 Crappy floor huh?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (mpXpK)

8 Tore sidewall out of my left front tire on a bad curb. Only have about 8k on those tires, damn.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (JFO2v)

9 Willowed:

The kid who shot up the school in TX was gay?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:40 AM (vw6r3)


---

Identified himself as gay via some sort of "pride" pin with all the antifa stuff.

If they say they're women/pansexuals/Muslims, it's no longer appropriate to question them. Their rules, after all.

This kid identified himself as gay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (VgKNm)

10 Cotton bud man used the wrong tool.

Wooden coffee stirrers work great and are reusable.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (EoRCO)

11 Morning, y'all!

Birds chirping and all that...


Bastages. Now where's my coffee?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM (7LY+6)

12 Drivers on Interstate 95 Sunday in Ridley Park said they were surprised
to spot the sign Sunday morning with a profane message instructing
Delaware County to "suck" a certain male organ.

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I like the highway construction sign that read "WE DONE, B*TCHES"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 08:31 AM (VgKNm)

13 I'm new to Florida. How often does Florida Man change his tee shirt?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2018 08:31 AM (xOga2)

14 The inanity of TV news is on full display this morning.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:31 AM (oVJmc)

15 There is always some tom fools who can not follow the rules. Too bad the cheetahs didn't eat their stupid ass.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 08:32 AM (mpXpK)

16 Clear non alcoholic beer?

Isn't that Corona Light?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:32 AM (8ikIW)

17 It's England, you just know that there are at least one or two transgender troops there.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 08:32 AM (6Ll1u)

18 Speaking of, I didn't know it but the hammer and sickle is apparently tied to the antifa nonsense, which makes a lot more sense why I'm often seeing the sign on cars in Charlotte, Asheville, Durham, etc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 08:33 AM (VgKNm)

19 I always feel bad for brides squeezed into wedding gowns that are half lingerie.

I am fine with that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:33 AM (sQD5x)

20 >>I hoep it sets a trend toward more modest gowns here in the USA - I always feel bad for brides squeezed into wedding gowns that are half lingerie.


No kidding! I always love how on "Say Yes to the Dress" you see a young gal wearing one of those corset dresses where the bodice is unlined lace (i.e. sheer) and loaded with big, sparkly crystals, and she exclaims, "I feel just like a princess!" Nope, princesses wear dresses with sleeves, lace over silk, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2018 08:33 AM (W+vEI)

21 Off damn tainted sock.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 08:33 AM (R5lpX)

22 always some tom fools "

Well, they're French, so...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:34 AM (7LY+6)

23 Woo doggie, just started listening to the political correctness debate linked in the sidebar. It sounds like it's going to be good! This must be what it's like when the angels drink coffee and listen to debates at 8:40am on a Saturday in shorts and a bathrobe.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:34 AM (y87Qq)

24
"woman furiously shits on floor of Tim Horton's"



It was my understanding that-

this is the traditional Canadian greeting.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:34 AM (9q7Dl)

25 Now, how in the world did somebody use the default password which is published everywhere to change that highway sign?

Posted by: PennDOT Officials at May 19, 2018 08:34 AM (w1zJX)

26 Morning all...


Nothing like waking up to a Chase fraud dept. phone call and Shemp on the TV.

Gonna be a bad weekend....

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 08:35 AM (Enq6K)

27 I never could understand what the draw for alcohol free beer is. I had a friend who drank that shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 08:35 AM (mpXpK)

28 here is always some tom fools who can not follow the rules. Too bad the cheetahs didn't eat their stupid ass.
Posted by: Vic

New safety rules at the park. They weld your doors shut

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:36 AM (8ikIW)

29 Wedding dress has a nice neckline



I hoep it sets a trend toward more modest gowns here in the USA - I
always feel bad for brides squeezed into wedding gowns that are half
lingerie.





Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2018 08:29 AM (hMwEB)
====================

Yes. I hate brides that look like they have been poured into a corset.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:36 AM (lwiT4)

30 I am fine with that."

Yep. Not seeing the problem...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:37 AM (7LY+6)

31 Well, the last time the joining of two "cultures", Brit and American, didn't turn out too well.....

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 19, 2018 08:37 AM (Z1I24)

32 *dips VM's pony tail in the ink well*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (39g3+)

33 How could someone get so angry at Tim Hortons that the appropriate response becomes taking a dump on the floor?!

I mean, if you work at the EPA I guess there is at least tradition to lean on but this is a restaurant!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (sQD5x)

34 I'm surprised that the Church of England didn't have a gay or transgender pastor marry the new couple

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (6Ll1u)

35 Nothing like waking up to a Chase fraud dept. phone call and Shemp on the TV.

Gonna be a bad weekend....
Posted by: Tami

Could be worse, could've woke up with Shemp ...

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (8ikIW)

36 Vic, same here

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (PUmDY)

37 Thanks for the link to the book voter mom.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (R5lpX)

38 Tinfoilbaby - was he an A.M.E pastor?

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (lwiT4)

39 Good morning, guys and dolls! It's rainy and cloudy in my part of the US.

I read about the waxing place earlier this week. It's in nearby Windsor ON. The person getting accused of "human rights violations" is the white male owner of the salon. The Tran called ahead, was told no one was available for male-parts Brazilian.

I think the owner will win. He has a seldom-needed contact who does male waxing, just unavailable due to illness or vacation.

In the meantime, the Tran looks like a disagreeable ass just looking for a payout.

In other words, a win-win.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - off kilter but still centered at May 19, 2018 08:39 AM (/+bwe)

40 Good morning, horde. Praise the Lord and pass the covfefe!

Posted by: April at May 19, 2018 08:39 AM (e8PP1)

41 Man, you guys are up early. Just cresting 9:00 here in rainy Connecticut. At least no tornadoes in the forecast. (For now.) Time for first coffee...

Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2018 08:39 AM (QE8X6)

42 I have heard quitting smoking will kill you. When I quit I damned near got whacked by back to back DVT and Pulmonary embolism just 20 months later. I'm worse for the wear but an 11 year ex smoker now. That was a tough addiction to beat.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2018 08:39 AM (CoiT2)

43 I never could understand what the draw for alcohol free beer is.

All the lousy taste of beer with none of the buzz? What's not to like?

A lot of non-alcoholic cocktails still are pretty tasty like Virgin Mary or non alcoholic Daquiris. But beer just tastes nasty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:39 AM (39g3+)

44 Those corset gowns are usually worn by women who are 100 pounds overweight and bulging out everywhere. Not a good look.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (lwiT4)

45 I never could understand what the draw for alcohol free beer is.

I had a friend who used to order a cheeseburger with no cheese, please.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (Zdm89)

46 Willowed but still true is that betting odds on the royal divorce open as soon as the royal wedding is finished.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (sQD5x)

47 18 You see cars with the hammer and sickle in North Carolina? And I thought the Coexist bs was bad enough

Posted by: rammajamma at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (xceTB)

48 Don't put anything smaller than your elbow in your ears.

Posted by: pogomip at May 19, 2018 08:41 AM (JXh4Y)

49 Morning, Horde! Waiting for the coffee to kick in and the sun to get a little higher here on the left coast before taking the motorcycle out for a back country ride. Enjoy your weekend!

Posted by: PabloD at May 19, 2018 08:41 AM (xA/TC)

50 Could be worse, could've woke up with Shemp ...
Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (8ikIW)


Or learned about the fraud thing later this afternoon, when the credit card was declined for a cash advance while a naked coked-out Shemp waves a gun at you. That would be worse, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:41 AM (y87Qq)

51 Well, looks like I'm excused from yard work today. On the other hand, with all the rain the grass will be knee-high by next weekend.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 08:41 AM (sdi6R)

52 Mahwidge.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 08:41 AM (/tuJf)

53 Those corset gowns are usually worn by women who are 100 pounds overweight and bulging out everywhere. Not a good look.
Posted by: grammie winger

Ummmm. Bride Back Boobs

Get plenty of pics

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:42 AM (8ikIW)

54 twoo wuv is what bwings us togewah this day

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:42 AM (39g3+)

55 Need. Moar. Covfefe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:43 AM (sQD5x)

56 Well, the last time the joining of two "cultures", Brit and American, didn't turn out too well....."

So you're saying a gifted ipod of the Won's speeches wasn't the high point of international relations?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:43 AM (7LY+6)

57 It finally quit raining here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 19, 2018 08:43 AM (mpXpK)

58 Mike Trout is a fish, and the best player in baseball

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 08:43 AM (6Ll1u)

59 Or learned about the fraud thing later this afternoon, when the credit card was declined for a cash advance while a naked coked-out Shemp waves a gun at you. That would be worse, too.
Posted by: hogmartin

And you had played a symphony on the "Rusty Trombone"

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:43 AM (8ikIW)

60 My wife said something about cleaning out the basement today, because rain. I hope she sleeps in and I get a pass. I have very important rain drop watching to do.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:45 AM (sQD5x)

61 I used to drink O'Douls na beer for a while. It wasn't bad and it allowed me to be able to be social with my friends at the bar and still be able to drive home safely.

Actually went through a DUI checkpoint with one in my console drink holder. Cop says...Is that an open beer in your console? I said...Yes sir, it's an O'Douls. He said...Well, there ain't much alcohol in that and I said...No sir. He handed me back my license and told me to have a nice evening.

This was the same Cop that had caught me for DUI ten years previous, so we knew each other.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 08:46 AM (R5lpX)

62 You see cars with the hammer and sickle in North Carolina? And I thought the Coexist bs was bad enough

Posted by: rammajamma at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (xceTB)


---

Yeah, it's like noticing the slant on the news or the trick with an optical illusion. Once you notice a couple you realize you're seeing them on a lot of yoots' cars.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 08:46 AM (tve+u)

63 Maybe Hillary will send her book as a wedding present...

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2018 08:46 AM (4cIxl)

64 Modern Scold Magazine already has an article on how to get coworkers fired for drinking Not Beer on the job.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 08:46 AM (RuIsu)

65 Whats this chicks name? Meghan Sparkle? Why is she famous?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (sQD5x)

66 Did PBO really give the Queen a dvd of his speeches or is that legend?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (PUmDY)

67 You see cars with the hammer and sickle in North Carolina? And I thought the Coexist bs was bad enough
Posted by: rammajamma at May 19, 2018 08:40 AM (xceTB)



The history of the 20th was basically about letting socialism/communism scamper about freely until they caused enough war, starvation, disease and poverty.

No one with two brain cells to rub together could possibly believe in or want either of them.

Latest example of socialism/Communism fail?

Venezuela. Prosperity to poverty in 3.8 seconds.


If you're a SocCom knucklehead, you're too stupid to vote.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (9q7Dl)

68 I saw the follow-up to the pooper story. Can't find the link, though.

The staff didn't allow the freak to use the restroom because they know her. They were concerned about health and safety of their guests.

I'm beginning to get a little callous about the mentally ill. Institutions should make a comeback.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - off kilter but still centered at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (/+bwe)

69
Trying, desperately, to get Her Majesty on the road. I am being plagued with tasks that could have been done days ago but are now being flipped to me to take care of, regardless of how much it might take.

Spent from 10:00 last night to 1:00 this morning trying to install a platform she said she must must must have. Failed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 08:48 AM (F5szg)

70 Used to be the boss had a 5th of bourbon in the drawer, now near beer gets you canned?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:48 AM (39g3+)

71 cleaning out the basement"

Good part about cleaning out the "southern basement" (attic, for you in cooler climes) is that it's easy to toss, er, carry stuff down.

'Course that means someone has to carry it up...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:48 AM (7LY+6)

72 Could be worse, could've woke up with Shemp ...

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (8ikIW)

True...but not likely. Shemp doesn't like my type.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (Enq6K)

73 And Greg Laurie has some awesome music grammie

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (6Ll1u)

74 why I'm often seeing the sign on cars in Charlotte, Asheville, Durham, etc.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Not Fayetteville?

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (FAJQW)

75 Posted by: NaughtyPine - off kilter but still centered at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (/+bwe)

Did you read the comments? "Horton, here's a poo."....spew.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (0+nbW)

76 Did PBO really give the Queen a dvd of his speeches or is that legend?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (PUmDY)


Of course not, that would just be silly. It was an iPod with his greatest hits. The DVDs he gave were Region 1 coded and don't work in UK players.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (y87Qq)

77 Megan Markle or whatever is famous for marrying a super rich guy who can't divorce her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (39g3+)

78 Sean Davis has good stuff on the lefts crumbling stories trying to refute or justify FBI spying on Trump. Andrew McCarthy too.

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2018 08:50 AM (BZA5F)

79 32 *dips VM's pony tail in the ink well*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:38 AM (39g3+)

*ties Christopher's shoelaces together*

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:50 AM (hMwEB)

80 As for no-alcohol beer, there was a time when I went dry for a few months and I would drink Kaliber if I wanted something beer-like. It's made by Guinness, and is very malty. Pretty good stuff, actually.

Posted by: PabloD at May 19, 2018 08:51 AM (xA/TC)

81 Not Fayetteville?

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (FAJQW)


---

I don't travel much to Fayettenam.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 08:51 AM (tve+u)

82 marrying a super rich guy who can't divorce her"

What's the over/under on a beheading?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:51 AM (7LY+6)

83 Megan Markle or whatever is famous for marrying a super rich guy who can't divorce her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (39g3+)
===================

I think half the royal family is divorced.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (lwiT4)

84 Yes. I hate brides that look like they have been poured into a corset.
Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:36 AM (lwiT4)

You must hate 100% of brides then. Most wedding dresses look like the seams in the back will split if she farts. Oh, that's right. Women don't fart. The methane escapes out their mouths when they complain. Which will start immediately after the honeymoon is over.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (9BLnV)

85 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2018 08:48 AM (F5szg)

Ear problem doesn't get you out of lifting eh.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (hMwEB)

86 Not likely in Fayetteville, unless you like your car keyed or tires flattened.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (R5lpX)

87 I hope Queen Elizabeth outlives Charles. I cannot stand that vague, entitled look to his face. Plus, he is one very confused dude on where money comes from.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (sQD5x)

88 Did PBO really give the Queen a dvd of his speeches or is that legend?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


IIRC it was an ipod.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2018 08:52 AM (a3OL0)

89 Obama gives queen an ipod:

http://tinyurl.com/397lx2b

They downplay it, but yeah it had his speeches on it. The DVDs were a gift to the PM Gordon Brown (who had sent Obama a pen holder made from the same wood as the Resolute Desk)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2009/mar/06/obama-dvd-brown

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:53 AM (39g3+)

90 You must hate 100% of brides then
========================


During the summer, I watch one or two weddings a weekend. I do it to be judgy.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 08:53 AM (lwiT4)

91 Couple of things that should happen during the royal wedding:

Trump should fly into his golf club in Scotland and offer to pay the back taxes on Balmoral Castle.

Americans in the wedding party (both of them) should break into a rousing chorus of Yankee Doodle

Hot dogs, apple pie, and Pabst Blue Ribbon at the reception

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at May 19, 2018 08:53 AM (9X60i)

92 Which will start immediately after the ceremony is over."

FIFY

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:54 AM (7LY+6)

93 The DVDs were a gift to the PM Gordon Brown (who had sent Obama a pen holder made from the same wood as the Resolute Desk)


....but Obama restored the image of the US abroad!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:54 AM (oVJmc)

94 I think half the royal family is divorced.

Yeah but its much more difficult for them to do so than the average guy. They not only have to do the legal stuff, but they have to get royal and parliamentary approval.

Most wedding dresses look like the seams in the back will split if she farts.

That's because she went on a crash diet to fit into it, which she'll quit as soon as the rice hits the ground.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 08:54 AM (39g3+)

95
When two violent totalitarian ideologies collide-

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/297180/#respond


Yep. The Chinese are back to their old tricks of shoving hundreds of thousands into "re-education" camps.

This time with muslims.

It's like Mao never left!.

Ah well, the old ways are best.


I believe everyone in the world will be delighted when China becomes the world's remaining superpower.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:54 AM (9q7Dl)

96 >>Sean Davis has good stuff on the lefts crumbling stories trying to refute or justify FBI spying on Trump. Andrew McCarthy too.

The days of retribution are upon us. This is going to be a wild few months.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 08:55 AM (/tuJf)

97 60 minute man on Soul Town. Pretty racy even now.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 08:55 AM (PUmDY)

98
Americans in the wedding party (both of them) should break into a rousing chorus of Yankee Doodle


While they were singing 'God Save the Queen,' the wife and I were singing 'My country, Tis of Thee'.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:56 AM (oVJmc)

99 Vapalm claims another victim.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2018 08:56 AM (RuIsu)

100 During the summer, I watch one or two weddings a weekend"

Ah. Sounds like a delightful time.

Just like having bamboo shoved under one's fingernails...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 08:56 AM (7LY+6)

101 grammie! -- look at Powerline's pictures for this week. I laughed so hard at the white-haired lady looking for her LedZeppelin album thinking of you.

Listening to the Munk debate now.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 08:57 AM (MIKMs)

102 $430,000 for that dress. She got ripped off.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 19, 2018 08:57 AM (PvFoN)

103 The Americans in the wedding partyshould have asked for open carry permits, just to watch the Brit heads explode.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 08:58 AM (sQD5x)

104 The kid who shot up the school in TX was gay?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2018 07:40 AM (vw6r3)



If he is watch how fast that story disappears unless they can somehow spin into a homophobia/bullying one and try and ignore the whole shooting part of it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 08:58 AM (SiINZ)

105 Since actresses are known for their mental stability, calm emotions, and fidelity-

I believe this Royal Marriage will be one for the ages.


Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 08:58 AM (9q7Dl)

106 While they were singing 'God Save the Queen,' the wife and I were singing 'My country, Tis of Thee'.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:56 AM
~~~~~

LOL Me too!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2018 08:58 AM (HiDrR)

107 i've never seen st. george's chapel. it's far from the most impressive medieval building, but what a great accomplishment it is - putting up those great, vaulted spaces with only stone.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:59 AM (Pg+x7)

108 The kid who shot up the school in TX was gay"

The now deleted online pics had a "rainbow flag" pin.

You'll never see it on the big media.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (7LY+6)

109 During the summer, I watch one or two weddings a weekend"

I would play trumpet for a number of them back in the day. The worst part was the Friday night rehearsal. I was basically there to go over things with the organist and make sure when and what was to be played. The wedding party comes in and all (for the most part) have to act the fool and waste time for me, the organist, and the minister.
Then some would complain about my 100 dollar fee.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (8ikIW)

110 i've never seen st. george's chapel. it's far from the most impressive medieval building, but what a great accomplishment it is - putting up those great, vaulted spaces with only stone.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 08:59 AM (Pg+x7)



Thank you!

Posted by: Visiting Aliens at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (9q7Dl)

111 Was the Duke of Earl there?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (PUmDY)

112 The days of retribution are upon us. This is going to be a wild few months.
============

You probably buy lottery tickets with certainty you will win. I love the optimism but considering zero perp walks so far maybe do not hold your breath.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (sQD5x)

113 Yeah the left is split between "spy? What spy?" and lunacy like the WaPo opinion piece "it wasn't a spy it was for Trump's protection"

Meanwhile, nothing they accuse President Trump of being or doing justifies the investigation and the tricks they pulled, and are attempting to this day. Let's say he IS a racist as they claim, like LBJ, Wilson, Andrew Jackson, etc before him. OK, then he's a jerk. But that's not illegal nor is it grounds for removal from office. Let's say he did have contact with Russia during the election. So? That doesn't mean he did anything illegal, either.

Let's say his son went to talk to a Russian about dirt they had on Hillary. So? That's not illegal or suspicious, either. Even if the woman was actually connected to the Russian government it still isn't illegal nor is it anything the president did.

Basically all the stuff they are using as justification for their abuse of power and crime isn't sufficient for what they are doing and did.

This stuff is so Nixonian, its bizarre. In a just world, with a neutral and objective press, they'd be in the dock, not running investigations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (39g3+)

114 ... and filled with light.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (Pg+x7)

115 Since actresses are known for their mental stability, calm emotions, and fidelity-"

So you're saying there is a chance...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:02 AM (7LY+6)

116 >>You probably buy lottery tickets with certainty you will win. I love the optimism but considering zero perp walks so far maybe do not hold your breath.

It's not optimism. It's been unfolding in real time for months now. We now have the NYT admitting that of course the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign but for a good reason! Even they can't lie any longer.

Perp walks come at the end of an investigation, not at the beginning.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:02 AM (/tuJf)

117 The wedding dress is lovely, but I'm a little surprised it looked like a "first wedding" dress. I thought it might be very different, like Camilla's dress was when she married Prince Charles.

Where's Anna Puma? She is going to be disappointed in the headwear of Beatrice and Eugenie, as am I.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:02 AM (oMtOd)

118 110: visiting aliens -

and i wanted to thank you for the empire state building. certainly, mere people could not build such an impressive structure!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 09:03 AM (Pg+x7)

119 I would play trumpet for a number of them back in the day. The worst part was the Friday night rehearsal. I was basically there to go over things with the organist and make sure when and what was to be played. The wedding party comes in and all (for the most part) have to act the fool and waste time for me, the organist, and the minister.
Then some would complain about my 100 dollar fee.
Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:00 AM (8ikIW)



But, that 100 dollar fee included-

a trumpet solo of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida", right?

Posted by: Visiting Aliens at May 19, 2018 09:03 AM (9q7Dl)

120 Is it really possible to spend $430,000 on a dress? I find that hard to believe.

Be sure to pay with an Amex card though, if you are doing that, and get the points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 09:03 AM (sQD5x)

121 looked like a "first wedding" dress"

A "first wedding dress"?

Is that like a "last bj dress"?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:04 AM (7LY+6)

122 Eugenia and Beatrice, have photos of their hats leaked yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:04 AM (MMrzc)

123 grammie! -- look at Powerline's pictures for this week. I laughed so
hard at the white-haired lady looking for her LedZeppelin album thinking
of you.
====================


I couldn't find it - I'll have to search again.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (lwiT4)

124 Perp walks come at the end of an investigation, not at the beginning.
===========

So, 2030 then?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (sQD5x)

125 Thank you!
Posted by: Visiting Aliens "

You're welcome.

/ ancient Egyptians

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (7LY+6)

126 King Edward VIII, Wallis Simpson? No mentions...? What's up with that?

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (Z1I24)

127 But, that 100 dollar fee included-

a trumpet solo of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida", right?

Posted by: Visiting Aliens

Nope, "Feels So Good" IGDV was another 50 for me and 75 for the organist

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (8ikIW)

128 The debate listed on the sidebar is awesome.

Posted by: Derptastic at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (DB16e)

129 How about the shoes?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (6Ll1u)

130 Ah, there you are, Anna! Yes, I saw pictures at Daily Mail, and sadly, their hats are quite mundane.

Camilla's, on the other hand, looks like a gigantic sunflower, at least from the angle I saw it.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (oMtOd)

131 102, really?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 09:06 AM (PUmDY)

132 She is going to be disappointed in the headwear of Beatrice and Eugenie, as am I.





Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:02 AM (oMtOd)
==================

I didn't see them. What were they wearing?

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

133 Nope, "Feels So Good" IGDV was another 50 for me and 75 for the organist"

So you'd throw in the drum solo for free?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:06 AM (7LY+6)

134 The NYT has this headline, and I'm not joking:

FBI Used Informant To Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not To Spy, As Trump Says

See, it was not spying it was undercover investigating. SO he was there, under false pretenses, as a federal agent, looking into the campaign's actions and documents, as the NYT freely admits, but it wasn't spying spying.

I mean, there was no suspicion or reason to suspect the Trump campaign of Russia ties when the guy was slipped into the campaign, but the NYT just transcribes the spin the Deep State slips them anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:06 AM (39g3+)

135
Was the Duke of Earl there?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


Prince Albert's in the can.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2018 09:07 AM (IqV8l)

136 So you'd throw in the drum solo for free?
Posted by: Anon a mouse

I played the shortened version that they had for radio

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:07 AM (8ikIW)

137 This stuff is so Nixonian"

Nixon would be jealous...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:07 AM (7LY+6)

138 How about the shoes?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (6Ll1u)
-----------

Excellent question, and very important! I have yet to see them but I shall. I suspect they are very proper white pumps, in a suitable bridal fabric like peau de soie.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:07 AM (oMtOd)

139 I'd like to hear more details about the vape pen explosion. What brand was it? Where was it made? Did it give any warning that something was wrong with it? Had it previously been damaged? Or did it just explode out of the blue like the penguin on the telly?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

140 According article about the incident at Horton's, allowing a non-patron access to the bathrooms is discretionary and can be denied based on past behavior of those who are requesting use of the facility.

Based on the fact the "woman," pooped on the floor after being denied, seems to me the case is easily made the woman has a history of bad behavior. But, unfortunately, we've got crazy coupled with bad behavior.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 09:08 AM (WEBkv)

141 If he is watch how fast that story disappears unless they can somehow spin into a homophobia/bullying one and try and ignore the whole shooting part of it

--

Orlando nightclub V2.0.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 19, 2018 09:08 AM (mQ0Mc)

142 Bluebell. will give it a look.

Camilla and sunflower?

A Slaver sunflower or simply solar powered?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:08 AM (MMrzc)

143 >>FBI Used Informant To Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not To Spy, As Trump Says

Wait until they have to come up with a headline that says the spy was actually inserted not to get information but to justify they spying they had already been doing on the Trump campaign.

That should be a doozy.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:08 AM (/tuJf)

144 I found picks of Beatrice and Eugenie on Daily Mail. Underwhelming. I wonder if Fergie was there.

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (lwiT4)

145 played the shortened version that they had for radio"

Ah. AM.

"Stairway" in under 3 minutes.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (7LY+6)

146 Is it really possible to spend $430,000 on a dress? I find that hard to believe.

You can spend any amount at all for a dress, if you're gullible enough and its not your money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (39g3+)

147 The debate listed on the sidebar is awesome.
Posted by: Derptastic at May 19, 2018 09:05 AM (DB16e)


I had to skip past Michael Eric Dyson after about a minute and a half.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (y87Qq)

148 Excellent question, and very important! I have yet to see them but I shall. I suspect they are very proper white pumps, in a suitable bridal fabric like peau de soie.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:07 AM (oMtOd)

----------------

Wait, are we talking about fabric or cooking?

"peau de soie" sounds like something one would bake.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (WEBkv)

149 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/ the-week-in-pictures-animals-edition.php

(remove space)

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (MIKMs)

150 "Israeli Football team that named itself after Trump has history of racism against Arabs"

(Bet they don't like Nazis either)

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (2K6fY)

151 She is going to be disappointed in the headwear of Beatrice and Eugenie, as am I.

--

Did you see pics of Lady Kitty Spencer? What a beauty.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (mQ0Mc)

152 I found picks of Beatrice and Eugenie on Daily Mail. Underwhelming. I wonder if Fergie was there.

--

She's there.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 19, 2018 09:10 AM (mQ0Mc)

153 Now watch Jean-Pierre, and see how the big kitty cats respond to mommy's gazelle impersonation!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2018 09:10 AM (m45I2)

154 Did you see pics of Lady Kitty Spencer?

Wasn't she in a Bond movie?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:10 AM (8ikIW)

155 . I wonder if Fergie was there"

Isn't she performing with Slash these days?

/

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:10 AM (7LY+6)

156 I like a good shoe, Ya I do

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 09:11 AM (6Ll1u)

157 Another eruption thru the fissure. Oh, God, these hurt...

Posted by: Hillary! at May 19, 2018 09:11 AM (y3sT9)

158 Did you see pics of Lady Kitty Spencer?

Wasn't she in a Bond movie?


Yeah but her last name was "galore" at the time.

Israeli Football team that named itself after Trump has history of racism against Arabs

US press shocked, shocked to find that racism exists outside the US, particularly among soccer fans

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:12 AM (39g3+)

159 I've had to call in drunk/sick to avoid the boss smelling alcohol on the breath a few times.

Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at May 19, 2018 09:12 AM (iW3Yp)

160 Gyah... so the idiots at Minot who lost an ammo can full of 40mm grenades for an M-19 has also managed to lose an M-240.

Hopefully SMFH has an alibi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:12 AM (MMrzc)

161 Did you see pics of Lady Kitty Spencer? What a beauty.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (mQ0Mc)


If I had a kitty 'spenser I'd put a laundry basket under the chute and get about $100 in quarters and just 'spense kitties all. Day. Long.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (y87Qq)

162 >>>>Ah. AM.

"Stairway" in under 3 minutes.

Stairways to Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBCvcBdb-E

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (3DZIZ)

163 racism against Arabs "

Que? What "race" is "Arab"?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (7LY+6)

164 The NYT has this headline, and I'm not joking:

FBI Used Informant To Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not To Spy, As Trump Says

See, it was not spying it was undercover investigating. SO he was there, under false pretenses, as a federal agent, looking into the campaign's actions and documents, as the NYT freely admits, but it wasn't spying spying.


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:06 AM (39g3+)
*****************************
I know. It's really quite stunning how they report the news. The headline is the rotating newsfeed on my computer.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (PvFoN)

165 I'm not real clear on the fascination with the British royal wedding, aside from the little-discussed fact that on average the members of the wedding party have 47.3 chromosomes.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (m45I2)

166 Watching Shep and Ainsley and whatever the other blonde's name is on Fox....

I said to my husband: "I've yet to see the queen in any of the coverage so far.

Husband: There's a queen...(points to Shep).

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (Enq6K)

167 Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (MIKMs)
===============


found it! LOL - very appropriate!

Posted by: grammie winger - I look at the floor, and I see it needs sweeping - at May 19, 2018 09:14 AM (lwiT4)

168 If I had a kitty 'spenser I'd put a laundry basket under the chute and get about $100 in quarters and just 'spense kitties all. Day. Long.

Could you 'spence me up one of those leopard kittys?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:14 AM (39g3+)

169 As I walk through this World, nothing can stop the Duke of Earl. Great song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 09:15 AM (PUmDY)

170 Que? What "race" is "Arab"?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (7LY+6)

Latino?

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 09:15 AM (0+nbW)

171 Spikey heels and what not, bit you know

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 19, 2018 09:16 AM (6Ll1u)

172 "Stairway" in under 3 minutes.

Stairways to Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBCvcBdb-E
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living

HA.. SCTV was great

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:16 AM (8ikIW)

173 I'm not real clear on the fascination with the British royal wedding"

We're all princesses, dotchaknow?

Not the guy scraping horse poop off that street.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:17 AM (7LY+6)

174 Could you 'spence me up one of those leopard kittys?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:14 AM (39g3+)


I'll set one aside if it comes out, but you never know what kind you get until you open the little plastic egg.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:17 AM (y87Qq)

175 I'm not real clear on the fascination with the British royal wedding, aside from the little-discussed fact that on average the members of the wedding party have 47.3 chromosomes.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2018 09:13 AM (m45I2)
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I only wanted to see the clothes. I'm shallow that way.

And grammie, I see you found the pics of Eugenie and Beatrice. Sorry I went AWOL, but our power blipped and the computer turned off. One of them is wearing a pillbox to go with her sixties stewardess uniform, and the other one is wearing a contraption that looks like about 6 or 7 plain headbands put together. Very disappointing.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:17 AM (oMtOd)

176 Latino?"

El snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:18 AM (7LY+6)

177 That Tim Hortons shitter is perhaps the most extreme case of irritable bowel syndrome I've ever heard of.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 19, 2018 09:18 AM (nBr1j)

178 A certain? male organ? How many are there?
Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM


This was a topic of discussion on one of the threads yesterday.

Posted by: Spock at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (DMUuz)

179 That Tim Hortons shitter is perhaps the most extreme case of irritable bowel syndrome I've ever heard of.
Posted by: Northernlurker

IBS? Why, i'm soaking in it.

...Shillary....

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (8ikIW)

180 Actual WaPo headline from last night:

If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him.

I think Trump should install spies on every Democrat running for office. To protect them.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (/tuJf)

181 My wife made the elderflower (liqueur) and lemon cake the royals are enjoying at the nuptials today. I bought the booze last night, really interesting flavor. Can't wait to try the cake. It has buttercream frosting. (I think yard clippings would taste good with buttercream frosting.)

We watched the ceremony this a.m. I was pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed it. The Queen looked really lovely in her lime green frock.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (ty7RM)

182 What is it with these humanimals dropping a deuce to protest or show displeasure? Things like this make me glad I'm on the back nine of life's golf course. This ain't the world I grew up in, that's for sure.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (Tyii7)

183 once upon a time, a prince would set up his actress mistress in a flat in mayfair - now he marries her.

but another sign of the degradation of society.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2018 09:20 AM (Pg+x7)

184 Here's a picture of Lady Jane Fellowes, Meghan's mother Doria Ragland, the Idiot and his Schtupp, along with Prince William, Charlotte, and Kate sporting a hat that is very Aussie Digger rakish. Footwear can be seen.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybwlvmzs

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:20 AM (MMrzc)

185


FBI Used Informant To Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not To Spy, As Trump Says



See, it was not spying it was undercover investigating. SO he was
there, under false pretenses, as a federal agent, looking into the
campaign's actions and documents, as the NYT freely admits, but it
wasn't spying spying.


As I've heard it, the 'spy' was actually there to entrap Popadopolous with Russian BS.

If that's the case, the FBI faked the whole case, and the mole was not there to 'investigate' anything.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (oVJmc)

186 We're all princesses, dotchaknow?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:17 AM


This.

Posted by: Caitlyn at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (DMUuz)

187 I watched none of this shit. Was Harry's real daddy there, the horse trainer?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (89T5c)

188 149 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/ the-week-in-pictures-animals-edition.php

(remove space)
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2018 09:09 AM (MIKMs)


There's some funny stuff in there. I love the Mona Lisa, Van Gogh, and Girl with an Earring (about 3/4 down).

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (sdi6R)

189 Present!

Light overcast, heavy thunder, some sprinkling, light breeze, pleasant temperature. Not bad for a NE OK AM in mid-May.

Cats went out, got wet, came back in. Everybody got a precipitation trophy.

Oh, the coffee maker j

Posted by: mindful webworker and the 2¢ worth of nothing at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (YdSkn)

190 From CTH:

Senator Mark Warner: DOJ/FBI Must Not Accept Congressional Oversight

According to Mark Warner, it would be "irresponsible" and "potentially illegal" for congressional oversight to keep demanding records from the FBI and DOJ about their spying and surveillance activity against the campaign of Donald Trump...

http://tinyurl.com/y9vqqgbc

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (Enq6K)

191 Heidi's in MN and I'm a bachelor!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 09:22 AM (aljs9)

192 Huh.

Spoze I'd have to drive to Madison or Milwo to see a hammer&sickle or coexist bumpersticker.
Those are still A Thing ? Sad !


On a related note, I was in LaCrosse a few days ago and went past a Dicks ... there were exactly 4 cars in their enormous parking area. Cue up Nelson Muntz and Sad Trombone.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2018 09:22 AM (xJrIn)

193 "A certain? male organ? How many are there?
Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 08:30 AM

This was a topic of discussion on one of the threads yesterday."

Some beavers have male organs.

Or so I have been told.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2018 09:23 AM (EyPfd)

194 That don't be evil thing was pretty evil.

Posted by: google at May 19, 2018 09:23 AM (CoiT2)

195 the FBI faked the whole case"

Neither new nor news. This sort of garbage has been a staple of DC for, well, ever.

The news is that we're hearing so much about it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:23 AM (7LY+6)

196 Regarding that alcohol beer that looks like bottled water--sorry. I enjoy a beer but over a great conversation and real beer.
I can't conceive of buying that to drink while working.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (nBr1j)

197 Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (Tyii7)

It seems like there has been a sharp increase in that behavior, although it could be that it's getting more coverage. Seems like an increasing number of people have *no* self control or boundaries any more.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (rp9xB)

198 Camilla's hat was awful. Charles just looked like a wanker.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (ty7RM)

199 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (hyuyC)

200 But yeah Beatrice and Eugenia have positively sedate hats. I guess the Queen threatened to lighten the weight on their shoulders if they did it again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (MMrzc)

201 don't be evil

"Fixed it"
--Google

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:25 AM (39g3+)

202 >>If that's the case, the FBI faked the whole case, and the mole was not there to 'investigate' anything.

The mole was planted to justify the spying on the Trump campaign that was already going on.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:25 AM (/tuJf)

203 Royal wedding, blah, blah, blah.

WGAS.

Posted by: FIIGMO at May 19, 2018 09:25 AM (E+qJE)

204 if they did it again"

Did what - fling poo?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:26 AM (7LY+6)

205 On a related note, I was in LaCrosse a few days ago and went past a Dicks ... there were exactly 4 cars in their enormous parking area.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2018 09:22 AM (xJrIn)

Those belonged to the employees.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 09:26 AM (0+nbW)

206 Charles just looked like a wanker.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 09:24 AM (ty7RM)



24/7. 365 days/year. In both the 20th and 21st century.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 09:26 AM (9q7Dl)

207 Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 08:55 AM (/tuJf)
+++++
Nah Man, Nothing is going to happen, But a strongly worded letter

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 09:27 AM (y3aQB)

208 The kid who shot up the school in TX was gay"
The now deleted online pics had a "rainbow flag" pin.
You'll never see it on the big media.
Posted by: Anon a mouse


No pics, but nbcnews.com still hasn't whitewashed it entirely (they just separate the nice "pride" pin from all the "evil" ones):

from https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8a86yu4 :

The caption below the photo appeared to be an explanation of the meaning of some of the other pins: He captioned the photo: "Hammer and Sickle = Rebellion," "Rising Sun = Kamikaze Tactics," "Iron Cross = Bravery," "Baphomet = Evil," "Cthulhu = Power."

While posts could provide clues to Pagourtzis' interests and state of mind before he allegedly barged into a classroom and started shooting, not all of them were so darkly themed.

"In one selfie from May 2, Pagourtzis wore a backwards baseball cap adorned with a pink and purple striped pin that is associated with bisexual pride, according to dozens of online retailers. In his profile photo, he wore a black hat with a white peace sign on the front.

Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:27 AM (JGBbg)

209 The mole was planted to justify the spying on the Trump campaign that was already going on.

Yeah they had a team looking into the Trump campaign to find bad stuff to hurt him with, and slipped a spy into it to get dirt they could use.

And if you think this is the first campaign they've done this with, I have a bridge to sell you

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:27 AM (39g3+)

210 On a related note, I was in LaCrosse a few days ago and went past a Dicks ... there were exactly 4 cars in their enormous parking area.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez

This weekend will be busy for Dick's though. It's the semi annual Dick's Bag O Dicks sale.

Time to stock up

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2018 09:28 AM (8ikIW)

211 Slaver sunflower hats ?

WANT !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2018 09:28 AM (xJrIn)

212 Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:21 AM (Enq6K)
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Sounds like Marky Mark's anus is tightening to the point when he farts only dogs can hear it

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (y3aQB)

213 You have to love the Queen. She said she goes out of her way to wear bright colors so people can readily see her at public appearances. Not in a "Look at MEEEE!!" way, but out of respect for their time and interest.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (ty7RM)

214 Victoria Beckham's dress was ugly, I thought. She looked dressed to go to a funeral.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (oMtOd)

215 Did anyone really watch the poo flinging?

And did I say.....Heidi's in MN and I'm a bachelor!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (aljs9)

216 The kid who shot up the school in TX was gay"
The now deleted online pics had a "rainbow flag" pin.
You'll never see it on the big media.
Posted by: Anon a mouse

No pics, but nbcnews.com still hasn't whitewashed it entirely (they just separate the nice "pride" pin from all the "evil" ones):



A Reuters story still has the picture with the pin on the hat. I'm sure that will disappear down the Memory Hole soon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (SiINZ)

217 Heh, they caught Harry's cousin Zara Phillips and her husband in a DERP moment

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7eh2syu

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (MMrzc)

218 In his profile photo, he wore a black hat with a white peace sign on the front.
Posted by: mikeski at May 19, 2018 09:27 AM (JGBbg)


I think he was trying to suggest something about the duality of man. The Jungian thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (y87Qq)

219 214 Victoria Beckham's dress was ugly, I thought. She looked dressed to go to a funeral.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (oMtOd)

I thought she must of forgot to pack a bra....and is it cold in Windsor today?

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (Enq6K)

220 Heidi's in MN and I'm a bachelor!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 09:22 AM


For the peace and repose of The HordeMind, please tell us you're well-supplied with large soldering irons, maxi-pads, and duct tape?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (DMUuz)

221 Posted by: NaughtyPine - off kilter but still centered at May 19, 2018 08:47 AM (/+bwe)

Did you read the comments? "Horton, here's a poo."....spew.
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 08:49 AM (0+nbW)

No, no, no! If there's one thing I learned in my 29 years, it's never read the comments on a gross story. Unless it's here, but those are usually funny.

Now I must go out and run errands. My neighborhood's drunk is mowing the lawn. It rained all night and most of this morning, and his lawn tractor is missing so badly, it sounds like it will die any minute. I can't take it anymore.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (/+bwe)

222 I've heard of TimBits, but jeesh.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (3dsTO)

223 >>Yeah they had a team looking into the Trump campaign to find bad stuff to hurt him with, and slipped a spy into it to get dirt they could use.

They were using the FISA database to look for information on Trump. This happened well before they had a warrant. Mike Rogers caught them.

They needed a valid warrant to justify what they were doing. They put Carter Page on the campaign, an asset they had previously used to spy on Russians, and took out a FISA warrant on him.

Presto, instant informant.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (/tuJf)

224
Anyone got a simple yet delicious InstantPot recipe they'd care to throw my way?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (9q7Dl)

225 What is it with these humanimals dropping a deuce to protest or show displeasure? Things like this make me glad I'm on the back nine of life's golf course. This ain't the world I grew up in, that's for sure.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (Tyii7)

Rabbi Daniel Lapin went into a lengthy discussion of these scatalogical events when Occupy Wall Street was taking dumps on police cars and vagrants were dumping on church altars when some churches would open their doors to the Occupy losers for the night.

He said it goes back to the Biblical days of Baal, who was a demon (?) and into poo and poo flinging.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (b4HRt)

226 NaCly Dog, I love your traditional greeting!

Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (/A+Cl)

227 While they were singing 'God Save the Queen,' the wife and I were singing 'My country, Tis of Thee'.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2018 08:56 AM (oVJmc)


I did the same thing.

Posted by: prof disarray, gg channel at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (w45mR)

228 "You have born to kill on your shirt and a peace symbol on your hat? What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?"
--Intimidating Colonel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (39g3+)

229 The caption below the photo appeared to be an explanation of the meaning of some of the other pins: He captioned the photo: "Hammer and Sickle = Rebellion," "Rising Sun = Kamikaze Tactics," "Iron Cross = Bravery," "Baphomet = Evil," "Cthulhu = Power." In one selfie from May 2, Pagourtzis wore a backwards baseball cap adorned with a pink and purple striped pin that is associated with bisexual pride, according to dozens of online retailers.




So he is a bisexual, commie, Kamikaze, Nazi, devil worshipper. Sounds normal enough

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (SiINZ)

230 They have instant pot now? Just add water.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 19, 2018 09:31 AM (3dsTO)

231 Hey kids, Elton John was awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (PUmDY)

232 Did anyone really watch the poo flinging?
And did I say.....Heidi's in MN and I'm a bachelor!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 09:29 AM (aljs9)

Yup....she was kinda hot till that happened.

Looks like she eats well, though. Solid.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (EoRCO)

233 Prosecution and conviction is the milestone for me with this ridiculous shitstorm.

.... that being said, the overall investigation - the real one, not the bs moo-ler version - is like Discover the Networks on steroids. There will be many, many more names on the naughty list.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (zra/d)

234 "180 Actual WaPo headline from last night:

If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him.

I think Trump should install spies on every Democrat running for office. To protect them.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2018 09:19 AM (/tuJf)"


Damn right. All the way down to county ratcatcher level, 24/7.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (xJrIn)

235
For the peace and repose of The HordeMind, please tell us you're well-supplied with large soldering irons, maxi-pads, and duct tape?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (DMUuz)

LMAO. She made me a AoSHQ emergency medical bag.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (aljs9)

236 I think he was trying to suggest something about the duality of man. The Jungian thing.

Full Metal Jacket high five

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (39g3+)

237 You have to love the Queen"

Sure thing, bunky.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (7LY+6)

238 Full Metal Jacket high five
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2018 09:32 AM (39g3+)


Back atcha.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (y87Qq)

239 Bringing charges against Mike Flynn was for his own good too. That house was too big for him anyway.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (3dsTO)

240 In all fairness, the Tim Horton's waitress did tell the lady there weren't any booths open but she could have a stool at the counter.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (m45I2)

241 Speaking of bright colours, there was no way to miss Amal Clooney since she sported a canary yellow form mugging dress with matching hat and some gold heels.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (MMrzc)

242 They have instant pot now? Just add water"

Already added. Just microwave for 30 seconds...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:34 AM (7LY+6)

243 I thought she must of forgot to pack a bra....and is it cold in Windsor today?
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (Enq6K)
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I thought it looked like the seamstress forgot to sew up all the seams.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2018 09:34 AM (oMtOd)

244 "Those belonged to the employees.
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2018 09:26 AM (0+nbW)"

Yeah, that's kinda what I figured, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2018 09:34 AM (xJrIn)

245 We've switched WhatWhatWhat's regular pot with Stanka instant pot.

Let's see what happens...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2018 09:35 AM (3dsTO)

246 And hopefully packed in there is some super glue. Right Cannibal Bob?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:35 AM (MMrzc)

247 I thought she must of forgot to pack a bra....and is it cold in Windsor today?
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:30 AM (Enq6K)

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She's not getting any younger and may have reached that magic age where these things happen.

Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 19, 2018 09:35 AM (WEBkv)

248 So spaced out

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2018 09:36 AM (PUmDY)

249 You have to love the Queen.




Not if you're a member of the Queen Haters (SCTV)

I hate the bloody Queen
She made me go to school
I hate the bloody Queen
And all of her bloody rules

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2018 09:36 AM (SiINZ)

250 241 Speaking of bright colours, there was no way to miss Amal Clooney since she sported a canary yellow form mugging dress with matching hat and some gold heels.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 19, 2018 09:33 AM (MMrzc)

I'm surprised she didn't dislocate her hip walking in...

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2018 09:36 AM (Enq6K)

251 I thought she must of forgot to pack a bra....and is it cold in Windsor today"

*sees an attempt to get us to turn on wedding coverage*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2018 09:36 AM (7LY+6)

252 The (R)s in the congressional investigative and judicial committees are protecting Trump campaign workers via bankruptcy, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 19, 2018 09:36 AM (VgKNm)