Sunday Morning Book Thread 03-29-2020

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Thomas Jefferson's Library, Charlottesville, VA


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), hermits, louts, layabouts, recluses, introverts, and other low-energy morons whose hair is not yet on fire. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which would look fine back in the 70s at Harvey Milk's barbecue/disco party.



Pic Note:

Thomas Jefferson built up his library from scratch more than once. A fire destroyed his first library in 1770, which included all of the books he inherited from his fater, Peter Jefferson. He built it back up again and then when the invading British Army burned the congressional library in 1814, he was able to sell 6500 books to Congress to replace the ones lost in the fire.

But wait, there's more:

Following the 1815 sale of almost all of his library to Congress, Jefferson continued to acquire books. The Retirement Library Catalogue in Jefferson’s hand constitutes his third and final library at Monticello. This 83-page bound manuscript is at the Library of Congress and available online. After Jefferson died in 1826, his library at Monticello was sold at auction by Nathaniel P. Poor in 1829 in Washington, D.C. The printed Poor Catalogue is available here, and is almost identical to the Retirement Library Catalogue. A transcription of the Retirement Library Catalogue was completed by John R. Barden in 1999, and edited by Thomas Baughn. More about the Retirement Library here.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

If you’re EFFASCINABLE, then you’re susceptible to being enchanted or bewitched.

I think "fascinate" "fascinating" and "fascination" may be related words.

I found it used in a 17th-century book entitled (take a deep breath): An explanation of the grand mystery of godliness, or, A true and faithfull representation of the everlasting Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the onely begotten Son of God and sovereign over men and angels.

The word occurs in a paragraph wherein the author (Henry More, 1614-1687) has got a pretty good anti-astrology rant going:

...and lastly, seeing there is that affinity and frequent association of Astrology with Daemonolatry and ancient Pagan Superstition; that person certainly must have a strangely-impure and effascinable passivity of Phancie, that can be bound over to a belief or liking of a Foolery so utterly groundless as Astrology is, and so nearly verging toward the brinks of Apostasie and Impiety.

I think he's saying that belief in something silly like astrology is evidence that that person will be easily sucked into believing things that cross the line from 'silly' over into 'dangerous'.



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Some of TJ's Books, Monticello



What Would Thomas Jefferson Read?

Those interested in finding out more about TJ's reading should check out Five Books Thomas Jefferson Owned That Every Patriot Should Read:

Today, Jefferson is long dead, and...[t]oday, untold numbers of books are available free online, and many more can be purchased...The paradox is that while we are awash with the sum total of human knowledge readily available at little or no cost, our society is increasingly ignorant.

We must take a page from the lives and practices of many of the Founding Fathers, and return to the wisdom inherent in a broad education. We must once again pick up those books that they read, and then build on that timeless wisdom to further secure the future for the United States. We cannot continue as a nation unless we understand the very ideas that created our nation.

With that in mind, I sat down and studied the lists of books Jefferson is known to have owned, and compiled a list of five that should be of great interest to American patriots and scholars. In some cases, I put the book on my list because I wanted to read it. In other cases, it is because I have read it. In all cases, I will speculate on why Jefferson might have found a particular book to be of value, and how it might benefit you today.

Spoilers: Two of the books mentioned are Locke's Treatises of Government and Plutarch's Lives.



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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Fantasy World Map

I thought this was fun:

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Not shown:

LaLa Land
Fantasy Island
Gor
Cimmeria
Cloud 9

...and of course:

Lower Middle Earth (from Bored of the Rings). I couldn't find a decent scan of the BotR map. This is the only one I was able to find, and it's way small.

But, I did discover that this book existed: Fantasy Map Maker Jump Start: 61 Easy Tips for Fantasy World Building with Real Earth Science:

In this concise and practical how-to guide, professional author and creative cartographer, D.N.Frost, explains the myriad ways our planet creates all the environments on Earth, and she delivers those concepts in 61 useful bite-sized tips that help you to:

* Build your fantasy world with a blueprint of how civilizations thrive and the power of geology in your back pocket.
* Make your world make sense. And keep all the features you love.
* Create the coolest world you can dream up. With unique places and cultures that defy logic but still feel real.

Within FANTASY MAP MAKER JUMP START, you’ll learn why the Earth formed as it did, how to mirror that realism in your invented world, how to adapt your fantasy cultures to their unique environment, and how to break all the rules for the most epic fantasy setting your stories have ever seen.

Only $4.99 on Kindle

(h/t Albert Pupo for the fantasy map)



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Moron Recommendations

Did you know that in 1953, newly crowned Queen Elizabeth II commanded that all children born in Britain that year were to be given a copy of the King James bible in celebration of her coronation?

I didn't, either, but you can learn about this and other surprising facts about the KJV in In the Beginning: The Story of the King James Bible and How It Changed a Nation, a Language, and a Culture, by Alister McGrath, recommended by a lurking moron:

This fascinating history of a literary and religious masterpiece explores the forces that obstructed and ultimately led to the decision to create an authorized translation, the method of translation and printing, and the central role the King James version of the Bible played in the development of modern English

You'll also learn about the Great She Bible and the Vinegar Bible.

Because KJV + Shakespeare = English.

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And speaking of current events, here is one that might be of interest, and by "of interest", I mean "disturbing and maybe even depressing". It's called China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine

Millions of Americans are taking prescription drugs made in China and don't know it--and pharmaceutical companies are not eager to tell them. This is a disturbing, well-researched wake-up call for improving the current system of drug supply and manufacturing. Several decades ago, penicillin, vitamin C, and many other prescription and over-the-counter products were manufactured in the United States. But with the rise of globalization, antibiotics, antidepressants, birth control pills, blood pressure medicines, cancer drugs, among many others are made in China and sold in the United States. China's biggest impact on the US drug supply is making essential ingredients for thousands of medicines found in American homes and used in hospital intensive care units and operating rooms.

It is a bit disturbing to be so dependent on a country whose government hates us.

The author, Rosemary Gibson, has written a number of other books about healthcare in America, including Wall of Silence: The Untold Story of the Medical Mistakes That Kill and Injure Millions of Americans and The Treatment Trap: How the Overuse of Medical Care Is Wrecking Your Health and What You Can Do to Prevent It.

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40 I continued my China reading jag.
I finished China: A History, by John Keay. It covers the entirety of Chinese history, and is quite readable and entertaining. Recommended.

I'm now reading Mao: The Unknown Story, by Jung Chang. It is also quite readable. I'm only 100 pages in, and Mao is weaseling his way into positions of power in the CCP. The real takeaway is what a total toolbag the man was. Lazy, duplicitous, entitled, a shameless lickspittle to those who could help him, and an absolute sadist, he was the whole package. He may be the only man in history to make Stalin look good by comparison.

Posted by: pep at March 22, 2020 09:20 AM (T6t7i)

There's a whole lotta history in John Keay's China: A History:

Taking into account the country's unrivaled, voluminous tradition of history writing, John Keay has composed a vital and illuminating overview of the nation's complex and vivid past. Keay's authoritative history examines 5,000 years in China, from the time of the Three Dynasties through Chairman Mao and the current economic transformation of the country. Crisp, judicious, and engaging, China is the classic single-volume history for anyone seeking to understand the present and future of this immensely powerful nation.

And if Jung Chang's Mao: The Unknown Story is not the definitive biography of Mao ZeDong, it darn well should be. A man possessed by Satan himself. And it's disturbing to read the Amazon customer reviews that actually defend this monster.

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Who Dis:

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Last week's 'who dis' was British actress Jennifer Jones.



National Emergency Library

A lurking moron sent me a link to this:

To address our unprecedented global and immediate need for access to reading and research materials, as of today, March 24, 2020, the Internet Archive will suspend waitlists for the 1.4 million (and growing) books in our lending library by creating a National Emergency Library to serve the nation’s displaced learners. This suspension will run through June 30, 2020, or the end of the US national emergency, whichever is later.

During the waitlist suspension, users will be able to borrow books from the National Emergency Library without joining a waitlist, ensuring that students will have access to assigned readings and library materials that the Internet Archive has digitized for the remainder of the US academic calendar, and that people who cannot physically access their local libraries because of closure or self-quarantine can continue to read and thrive during this time of crisis, keeping themselves and others safe.

This library brings together all the books from Phillips Academy Andover and Marygrove College, and much of Trent University’s collections, along with over a million other books donated from other libraries to readers worldwide that are locked out of their libraries.




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Books By Morons

We have some quarantine price reductions from a couple three moron authors:

A lurking moron who goes by the nic 'Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader' e-mailed me with this offer:

I wanted to tell you about a project I've started in this time of quarantine. For as long as I can keep it up, I'll be giving away a brand-new short story every other day to the folks on my mailing list. A few of these are already written, but most of them I'm writing as I go, and none of them have ever been published before. I released the first one today.

What kind of stories will he be writing? He didn't say, but perhaps we can get some idea from the novel that he wrote, Fate's Balance:

The citizens of Skyrah enjoy a unique gift: the ability to exert influence over the essence of existence, redirecting the flows of nature as they live their lives in service to the tenets of Justice and Mercy. Yet despite this gift, Skyrah's promises have failed to materialize for many of its people:

A prideful thief, desperate to escape the city.

An optimistic novice, innocently colliding with reality.

An aging guard, grappling with shame and regret.

An old woman, whose mysterious blind eyes somehow see the darkness at the heart of Skyrah... a growing doom that threatens to consume them all.

Fate's Balance is available for 3.99 on Kindle. Also available in paperback.

To join LtCFtR's mailing list, you can sign up at this link: https://mailchi.mp/a94bf3e5e2ff/willneely.

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'Ette author Libby Malin has a pretty drastic price reduction on one of her novels:

My romantic-comedy FIRE ME! will be free for five days in the Kindle store starting Monday, March 30 through Friday, April 3, 2020.

I've been offering some freebies to fight blahs during our isolation. FIRE ME! tells the story of Anne Wyatt, who goes into work one day prepared to resign, but changes course and tries to get laid off instead when she finds out her boss is about to let someone go -- she wants the severance package. The action takes place in one day, and this book was bought for film by Fox Studios and Ben Stiller's Red Hour Production company (alas, no movie yet!). It was originally published by a traditional publisher, but rights reverted to me a few years ago, and I updated and self-published it.

Here's what Publishers Weekly says of the book: "...an amusing tale of a woman who finds herself and love while trying to get fired...Malin populates the novel with a number of entertaining characters, such as poor unlucky Lenny and Anne’s termination competition, Sheila. Many will empathize with Anne as she struggles to figure out just what she wants to do in life. Readers...will enjoy Anne’s antics and daydream of making their own splendid exits from hellish jobs."

Here's a link to FIRE ME! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C54NC9V.

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'Ette author Celia Hayes is putting her three biggest books (lengthwise!) on sale for half price in the Kindle version, hoping to provide escape and diversion during the Kung Flu lockdown.

The Luna City Compendium #1
The Luna City Compendium #2

She says

I can't help thinking that Luna City is a nice place to escape into...I'm having fun escaping into writing the next installment in the series...

Ms. Hayes has also reduced the price on her Adelsverein Trilogy, which is the historical series set in the Hill Country of Texas - all about how so many Germans settled there, starting in the 1840s.

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Speaking of immigrants, I just started the first installment in Swedist writer Vilhelm Moberg's Emigrant series, The Emigrants:

Considered one of Sweden's greatest 20th-century writers, Vilhelm Moberg created Karl Oskar and Kristina Nilsson to portray the joys and tragedies of daily life for early Swedish pioneers in America. His consistently faithful depiction of these humble people's lives is a major strength of the Emigrant novels.

Moberg's extensive research in the papers of Swedish emigrants in archival collections, including the Minnesota Historical Society, enabled him to incorporate many details of pioneer life. First published between 1949 and 1959 in Swedish, these four books were considered a single work by Moberg, who intended that they be read as documentary novels...

Book 1 introduces Karl Oskar and Kristina Nilsson, their three young children, and eleven others who make up a resolute party of Swedes fleeing the poverty, religious persecution, and social oppression of Småland in 1850.

Just like a bunch of German families came to America and found their way to Texas, a bunch of Swedish families came to America and found their way to the upper Midwest, notably Minnesota. In fact, the novel's intro says that one-quarter of Sweden's population fled that country during the 1850s. Living conditions there must've been really bad to produce that immense a migration.

The novels in Moberg's quartet are The Emigrants, Unto A Good Land, The Settlers, and The Last Letter Home. In the early 70s, they were adapted for film in two 3+ hour movies, The Emigrants and The New Land. Mrs. Muse and I just finished watching them, which is how I found out about the books.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.



Checklist For Morons:

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1 PROLOGUE – CONCERNING BOGGIES

Before the crossing of the Papier-Mâché Mountains, the boggies had become divided into three distinct breeds: Clubfoots, Stools, and Naugahydes. The Clubfoots, by far the most numerous, were swarthy, shifty-eyed, and short; their hands and feet were deft as crowbars. They preferred to live in the hillsides where they could mug rabbits and small goats, and they supported themselves by hiring out as torpedoes for the local dwarf population. The Stools were larger and oilier than the Clubfoots, and they lived in the fetid lands at the mouth and other orifices of the Anacin River, where they raised yaws and goiters for the river trade. They had long, shiny black hair, and they loved knives. Their closest relations were with men, for whom they handled occasional rubouts. Least numerous were the Naugahydes, who were taller and wispier than the other boggies and who lived in the forests, where they maintained a thriving trade in leather goods, sandals, and handicrafts. They did periodic interior decorating work for the elves, but spent most of their time singing lurid folk songs and accosting squirrels.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 I regret not getting a book at the used book store, and greatly fear their survival in a long shutdown.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:02 AM (ZCEU2)

3 Unusually shallow chair in the library. For ladies with voluminous skirts?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:02 AM (Dc2NZ)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 09:02 AM (arJlL)

5 Patti Smith

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:03 AM (ONvIw)

6 Books!

Posted by: ALH at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (NP5PC)

7 Alice Cooper sans make-up.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (X/Pw5)

8 Nice Lieberry!

Those ain't pants. They ain't even shorts.

Patti Smith after an all-nighter servicing her band mates.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2020 09:05 AM (Z+IKu)

9 As for fantasy mapmaking, Lin Carter's excellent little book "Imaginary Worlds" suggested that the would-be author study an (Earth) atlas to understand logical terrain formation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_
Worlds:_The_Art_of_Fantasy

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

10 Journal of the Plague Year (The "Curate edition" read well in e-book).

Posted by: Slow Learner at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (hafXH)

11 Is that Patti Smith?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

12 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's Patti Smith having a universal reaction to reading Finnegan's Wake, although it looks like she made it well past the point that most sane people did.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 29, 2020 09:07 AM (y7DUB)

13 Imma gonna hafta try TBOTR

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 09:07 AM (BiNEL)

14 11 Is that Patti Smith?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

Who else has that face?

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:07 AM (ONvIw)

15 Patti Smith. Who wrote a good auto bio

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (9TdxA)

16 The Who Dis is Fred Gwynn

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (arJlL)

17 Hey everyone!

No writing last week, still building up momentum for Battle Officer Wolf II. Re-reading the original, I'm struck by how much my writing style has change (for the better, I think).

Reading this week: "Battles and Leaders of the Civil War." I mentioned this last week and given the stress and crazyness (and having my kids stuck at home), these wonderful anthologies are the perfect tonic.

You can just open up a book, flip to an article and dig in. This week I read all about the Union capture of New Orleans. The great thing about this is that each topic will have a main article, then responses and sub-articles.

This was because these are all taken from Century Magazine, a big publication in the 1880s. What would happen is one article would appear, and then other veterans would write in with their views, and pretty soon you have the equivalent of a 19th Century comment board, complete with flame wars!

This series (there are four books total) is where a lot of the controversies regarding the war came into play. This was where Longstreet dared to question Lee's strategy at Gettysburg, for example.

Anyhow, it's a combination between big-picture histories and small vignettes. More on that in another comment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (cfSRQ)

18 booken morgen horden

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (G546f)

19 The fantasy map unfortunately leaves out the important detail that Solla Sollew was on the banks of the beautiful river Wahoo.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (H8QX8)

20 Good morning all! There was some talk a few weeks ago about generation ship books, which I have never read but sounded interesting. So this week I am reading Orphans of the Sky.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (6ofTb)

21 I read the content like a sucker.

Gawd I love Patti Smith.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (gd9RK)

22 And Jennifer Jones was American, not British

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)

23 They did periodic interior decorating work for the
elves, but spent most of their time singing lurid folk songs and
accosting squirrels.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

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"Slow and sullen, yet stupid..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

24 Patti Smith is also a talented photographer. Saw an exhibit at the Smithsonian (or was it the DIA?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (Dc2NZ)

25 Unusually shallow chair in the library. For ladies with voluminous skirts?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:02 AM (Dc2NZ)


It's actually an upholstered sugar scoop.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (t+qrx)

26 wait,aside from must wear pants rule,we now have a no stabbing rule?

OM flexing his tyrant muscle in this quarandemic!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (G546f)

27 "I think he's saying that belief in something silly like astrology is evidence that that person will be easily sucked into believing things that cross the line from 'silly' over into 'dangerous'."

I'd love to hear what he'd say about people who believe in Howard Zinn's teaching.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (V2Yro)

28 19
The fantasy map unfortunately leaves out the important detail that Solla Sollew was on the banks of the beautiful river Wahoo.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (H8QX

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The original printing of The Lorax contains a reference to Lake Erie (specifically the humming-fish pond).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:11 AM (cfSRQ)

29
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

that's Alice Cooper

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 09:11 AM (CeiD8)

30 Ahoy, bookfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (NWiLs)

31 I'd love to hear what he'd say about people who believe in Howard Zinn's teaching.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (V2Yro)

They're enlightened, of course.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (H8QX8)

32 Gawd I love Patti Smith.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (gd9RK)


Same here. In fact, I've been listening to her in my song rotation for the last week.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (fg6n8)

33 Who Dis:



Looks like Boris Karloff wearing a wig

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (4mKR9)

34 OK, no cheating, for five points what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)

35 Looking at your list, OM -- two out of four ain't bad, right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (Dc2NZ)

36 Fun fact: In 1897, when the Library of Congress finally moved into a building of its very own for the first time (which is now known as the Jefferson Building), the Library had been taking up a quarter of the space in the Capitol Building.



Around 2003 when Tony Blair spoke before a Joint Meeting of Congress, he got a laugh when he apologized for the British burning down the Library and not mentioning who else occupied the building.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (nRNOc)

37 Alice Cooper is Vincent something, and he's a golfer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (NWiLs)

38 34 OK, no cheating, for five points what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)

Its his real name and he is good at making barrels?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (fg6n8)

39 Patti Smith is also a talented photographer.


She was besties with Mapplethorpe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:14 AM (gd9RK)

40
OK, no cheating, for five points what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM


don't recall his actual name, but Alice Cooper is 'sposed to be a really good golferer

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 09:14 AM (CeiD8)

41 Although golf is a game moreso than a sport.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:14 AM (NWiLs)

42 Is that Joyce Carol Oates?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:14 AM (2JVJo)

43 Half marks to Insom.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:15 AM (gd9RK)

44 Anyway, I bought the Olive Beaupre, The Bookhouse, to read to the grandsons. The stuff that passes for literature these days makes me ill.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:15 AM (ONvIw)

45 All but hit send on a Amazon book History of Napoleon by same author who just wrote about Churchill this week. The Churchill book would be a great read too.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:16 AM (ZCEU2)

46 Vincent Furnier and golf.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:16 AM (gd9RK)

47 OK, no cheating, for five points what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)


Vincent Furnier. Golf.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:16 AM (2JVJo)

48 Rereading the Narnia chronicles. And I've been enjoying Nancy Forbes and Basil Mahon's "Faraday Maxwell and the Electromagnetic Field," a marvelous look at the history of electromagnetics.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (FXjhj)

49 Alice Cooper is Vincent something, and he's a golfer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (NWiLs)

Vincent....starts with F......supposedly took up golf to cure his drug/alcohol problem.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (X/Pw5)

50 WTF, Bander?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (2JVJo)

51 I can't seem to focus for very long on any one book. I keep flitting from one to another.

I blame the quarantine! Which is odd, in that it gives me an excuse for burrowing in without guilt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

52 I don't read much newer sci-fi, but decided to give a book with six short stories by current authors a chance. The book is called "Forward." The result is mediocre. One story is that if all of the white men left, everyone else would make a near utopia of earth. Yet, that wasn't the worst story. The worst is one that was a chick sci-fi story which meant virtually no science and lots of feelings. I will say that Andy Weir had a decent story. The ending though was a big neon sign of "THIS PLAN WILL FAIL."

Posted by: WOPR at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (YNKh1)

53 Just finished reading "Secret on the Tarmac" by Christopher Sign. It was OK but it really had no revelations past page 75. I have loaned it to a friend but if any Morons want to read it, shoot me an Email at dlkerns30@hotmail.com I will mail it to you.

Posted by: Picric at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (nonGu)

54 49 Alice Cooper is Vincent something, and he's a golfer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (NWiLs)

Vincent....starts with F......supposedly took up golf to cure his drug/alcohol problem.
Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (X/Pw5)

IIRC he's spent a lot of time helping musicians overcome substance abuse, and is overall a really good dude.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (NWiLs)

55 Greetings, all, from The Land of the Knee-Walking Turkeys!

No idea who the Mystery Guest is. Something tells me that even when she (?) was younger, she was no Jennifer Jones.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (rpbg1)

56 So I recently heard a defense of Astrology that might, could, sort of, perhaps have an actual basis in science. That in ancient times (like when Biden was a young man) the month you were born in determined what food your mom ate while pregnant and the nutrients, amount, preparation & etc. could have a common impact on everyone's personality who was born during that time. I don't really buy it but it's better than believing magic planet rays determine you should play the lottery this month.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (fg6n8)

57 I can't seem to focus for very long on any one book. I keep flitting from one to another.



I blame the quarantine! Which is odd, in that it gives me an excuse for burrowing in without guilt.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

It's the feeling that you should be doing something. You ever go on vacation for two or three weeks and it is only about halfway through that you start to relax? Same thing, your mind is stuck on its routine.

Posted by: WOPR at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (YNKh1)

58 Vincent....starts with F......supposedly took up golf to cure his drug/alcohol problem.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (X/Pw5)



IIRC he's spent a lot of time helping musicians overcome substance abuse, and is overall a really good dude.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (NWiLs)


I've watched some videos of him on youtube. He's very down to earth and tells some great stories. I really liked the ones he had about Keith Moon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (4mKR9)

59 When I was probably about 13 or so I spent time in the school library looking for books with racy, sexy parts. Always found a few, wish I could remember the titles. Sex sold me on a good school library book. School boys have strange tastes at that age. I wonder if the girls did the same.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (VW+Vt)

60 Now I'm listening to Patti's "The People Have the Power".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (Dc2NZ)

61 a way a lone a last a loved a long the / riverrun, past Eve and Adams from swerve of shore to bend of bay

That's all I got

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 29, 2020 09:21 AM (9TdxA)

62 Stuff I learned about New Orleans' capture...

No one agrees on who thought up the Union goal or plan.

The USS Brooklyn was one tough ship. Took a Confederate shell that smashed into the hull and lodged there. Had it detonated, she would have sank, but the rebel gunners were so panicked they forgot to remove the safety on the fuse.

When the rebel ram Manassas slammed into the Brooklyn, a man emerged from the rear hatch, only to topple over immediately. Apparently the quartermaster of the Brooklyn tagging him with the sounding line (which had a lead weight on the end).

The Governor Moore (part of the Louisiana Navy) slammed into the USS Varuna and was so close that she couldn't bring her pivot gun to bear, so the rebels depressed it all the way and fired at the Varuna through their own deck. Twice.

Upon capturing the city, the US flag was raised over the post off and customs house, but not city hall, because that wasn't federal property. The state flag was, however, hauled down.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:21 AM (cfSRQ)

63 Those pants are dreadful, btw, sort of Christopher Street meets Easter Parade

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (ONvIw)

64 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I'm late, which kinda sucks, since I actually knew the who dis for once. I don't know any of those old movie stars, but I'm pretty good with punk/alt rock musicians.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (OX9vb)

65 59
When I was probably about 13 or so I spent time in the school library
looking for books with racy, sexy parts. Always found a few, wish I
could remember the titles. Sex sold me on a good school library book.
School boys have strange tastes at that age. I wonder if the girls did
the same.


Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (VW+Vt)

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V.C. Andrews.

Yes, yes they did.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)

66 Thanks for the Henry More link. I love the way - typically for the 17th C - the table of contents is effectively a Cliff Notes version of the book.

More was one of the Cambridge Platonists. And that should caution against this reading:

"I think he's saying that belief in something silly like astrology is evidence that that person will be easily sucked into believing things that cross the line from 'silly' over into 'dangerous'."

I don't think that's it. At the time, astrology was associated with a strong determinist view of life. Those who then embraces it would be talking of DNA today. The Platonists tended to the opposite view; something almost akin to existentialism at times. They were the sort that William James called "hard headed".

Once again, a link to the truly indispensable reading on this period: Lewis's introduction contains a discussion of this (and much else):

https://tinyurl.com/qlqs42j

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (ZbwAu)

67 Candyland is way easier than Golf. Hell, Trivial Pursuit is easier than golf. I have heard the arguments as have we all but they are mainly arbitrary. Many will say in a sport you have to run around or you have to get hit etc. We see so many examples of how that can't be right. Is figure skating a game?


This is a complicated subject and not the right thread even. But I will leave this as the kids say. Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus combined have been on more Sports Illustrated covers than any other human. I could be wrong as thing change and maybe Lebron is on every month. But I bet I am right. They have both been on the cover over 20 times.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:23 AM (hHxp2)

68 WTF, Bander?


Thread was slow and I got bored. You get the five points.

Five Points to Poppins!

I has been announced.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:23 AM (gd9RK)

69 I'd love to hear what he'd say about people who believe in Howard Zinn's teaching.

Effascismable.

Posted by: t-bird at March 29, 2020 09:24 AM (asM0l)

70 Now reading War and Peace. Just finished Sense and Sensibility. Wealth of Nations and Annals of Rome on the sideboard, since I can only take them in small doses.

Posted by: Caliban at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (QE8X6)

71 Anyway, didn't do any writing this week. Started to, since I thought I had an idea of where to go (and had sketched it out), but I broke Ian Fleming's cardinal rule - never re-read what you've already written. I did, and got paralyzed.

So I am planning to take out my "scene slips" - pieces of paper where I sketch down ideas for a scene or even a chapter - today and work my way forward a bit, which is progress even if none of it gets translated into actual notebook writing today.

And for reading? Well, last night I decided to see if any new reviews for The Director's Cut or Thirteen Moons had popped up. They hadn't, but I did find a short story, Theda, which is described as:

An overly shy college student who is enamored with the long-deceased actress Theda Bara is transported one night across the veil that separates the realm of the living from that of the dead. It is here that, to his astonishment, the beautiful silent film star appears and seductively convinces him that if he can only invoke her presence properly, she could join him on his side of the veil. As the young man returns to the earthly realm and begins working toward that goal, he is totally unaware of what his actions will lead to.

This could be good. It could be awful. In the words of Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott, I'll let you know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (2JVJo)

72 Good morning all - and thanks for the linkage, OM!
The Daughter Unit and I have taken to doing home renovation during this time of Serious Social Distancing ... including rebuilding the hallway book shelf, in a floor to ceiling fashion. Our local handy guy suggested setting the shelves between the studs, to maximize space, and offered a discount if we did the demolition ourselves ... so we've spent the weekend ripping out plasterboard ... and discovering that a good portion of that plasterboard had been damaged by a water leak from the AC unit in the attic some years ago.
Nothing like having to spend a lot of time at home to look around and think, "You know, I'm not happy with the way this room/floor/paint looks. I'm gonna go down to Home Depot/Lowes' and do something about it..."
Both those joints were absolutely jumping all last week - and Home Depot to the point where they were controlling access.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (xnmPy)

73 One story is that if all of the white men left,
everyone else would make a near utopia of earth.


Posted by: WOPR at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (YNKh1)

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This is 100 percent true.

Posted by: The Aztecs, eating your heart at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (cfSRQ)

74 Who Dis:

A young, very young Keith Richards.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (P1GvV)

75 I wonder if "effascinable" would be right to describe Catherine Moreland in Northanger Abbey. Watched the new movie version with my wife. I am VERY skeptical about The Monk being on Catherine's reading list. That book was a bit porny for Jane. But I haven't checked; does any hordester remember?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (ZbwAu)

76 My small-size British edition of Bored of the Rings also has ia hard-to-read map, but I can make out regions such as Anacin, Bardahl, Tudor and Fordor, and Gonad.

Maybe some of the references, like Bardahl and Krona, would be hard to comprehend by today's younger audiences. I don't care. It's still one of the funniest books ever written.

Look also for National Lampoon's Doon, a parody of guess what series which emerged in the '80s when the David Lynch film came out. It is in the same style as Bored, and it even parodies the glossary of the original Herbert novel. Example:

"Orthodontothopter: An appliance consisting of fixed metal strips held in place by rubber bands. Expensive, but in the long run, definitely worth it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:26 AM (rpbg1)

77 60 Now I'm listening to Patti's "The People Have the Power".

I'm not super fond of that one, or that whole album, really.

But I never get tired of anything on Easter or Horses

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:26 AM (OX9vb)

78 That in ancient times (like when Biden was a young man) the month you were born in determined what food your mom ate while pregnant and the nutrients, amount, preparation & etc. could have a common impact on everyone's personality who was born during that time.


I have a simpler theory. The month you are born in puts you in a cycle of days getting longer or days getting shorter and your first experience of a year imprints itself on your personality, so people born in January experience life opening up in summer and have that in common.

I got nothing for when Jupiter alligns with Mars.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:26 AM (gd9RK)

79 I read Bird Box: Don't Open Your Eyes by Josh Thalerman. In this horror novel an entity causes people to commit deadly violence and suicide if they as much as glimpse this unknown. A woman and two children survive for four years in a house with the windows covered, and go out only if blindfolded. Finally, Malorie decides to take a chance and floats down a river in a rowboat with the children in hopes of finding a sanctuary. This was made into a movie in 2018 with Sandra Bullock.

On the Kindle, I read The Last Marine by T. S. Ransdell. An ad for the book describes it as "culture war fiction." In a future totalitarian America, the SJW's are running the show. The President is just a figurehead, and the real power rests with a woman (of course) general who is not only the head of the military, but of the internal security forces as well. She hires a young, ambitious historian/journalist, Joel Levine, to write a piece to remind the nation of its past sins in the Sino-American War. Levine is allowed to interview Sean Harris, the last living Marine veteran who has been in prison for fifty years after a failed coup attempt against a SJW government. Harris tells the story of the war from a Marine's point of view. The last battle scene is especially well written. Riveting. The premise of the book is frightening because it looks like we are heading in that direction. Ransdell is a Marine veteran and served deployments in the Middle East. I'm going to spend the $4.99 on the second book.


Posted by: Zoltan at March 29, 2020 09:26 AM (3ugDL)

80 This is a story from WW2 I'd never heard of. "The Forgotten 500" by Gregory A. Freeman is the story of Operation Halyard (Aug-Dec 1944), the rescue of over 500 Allied aircrew from German occupied Yugoslavia. Most were American bomber crews that escaped capture by the Germans. Protected by Serbian villagers and Chetniks commanded by Gen. Draza Mihailovich they were rescued by a few OSS agents and C47 crews that landed at a tiny makeshift landing zone on a mountain plateau near Pranjane, Serbia. Not a plane nor man was lost.

Most of the book is the back stories of those involved with the rescue and the political intrigue between the Allies, Chetniks (royalists), and Partisans (commies) led by Josip Broz Tito. Thanks in part to British SOE agent James Klugmann (a Soviet spy who helped recruit the "Cambridge Five" British spy ring) who lied in reports about Mihailovich thus ensuring by mid 1944 all support would go to the "good" commie Tito. Churchill would regret this decision. In Italy the 15th Air Force instructed it's bomber crews to avoid the Chetniks; "They will cut your ears off and turn you over to the Germans." Of course that wasn't true.

And how was Milhailovich's support for the Allies rewarded? July 1946 he was executed by Tito's government after a show trial for treason and war crimes (he fought Tito's Partisans as well as the Germans). 1948 Truman posthumously awarded him The Legion of Merit, but thanks to the U.S. State Dept. it was kept secret for decades. They didn't want to offend the commies.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (P1GvV)

81 For those interested in military/espionage thrillers, C.W. Lemoine has offered the first four books in his "Spectre" series for $.99 (ebook only) through the end of April. I can't comment about the quality as I've not read them, but I figured I'd pass it along.

https://books2read.com/u/3JKQBB

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (DTX3h)

82 A young, very young Keith Richards.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (P1GvV)
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I don't think photography existed when Keith Richards was young.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (WEBkv)

83 64 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I'm late, which kinda sucks, since I actually knew the who dis for once. I don't know any of those old movie stars, but I'm pretty good with punk/alt rock musicians.
Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (OX9vb)

And I would typically be no good at punk singers, but I lived in a 70s student co-op and one of the women was a crazed Patti Smith fan.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (ONvIw)

84 Alice Cooper's Killer album was a gem when it came out. Wore out the tracks on the vinyl as a rebellious yout.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 29, 2020 09:29 AM (EgshT)

85 Upon capturing the city, the US flag was raised over the post off and customs house, but not city hall, because that wasn't federal property. The state flag was, however, hauled down.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020


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Was the story we've always heard, about General Butler confiscating all the family silver and thus becoming known as "Spoons" Butler, true?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:29 AM (rpbg1)

86 Hopefully I won't be interrupted on book matters this week or experience 505 errors from this wonderful software. Finished Sister Carrie last week and I couldn't agree more with Edmund Wilson when he said Dreiser was a terrible writer. Some of the passages where he tried philosophizing about the human condition read like a clunky parody of Proust. Purportedly he was an influence on Fitzgerald, whom I think is wildly overrated, and Faulkner (maybe the decline of Hurstwood fascinated him and, welp, for all his greatness Bill drank a lot). As I've said previously he reminds me of those depressing Midwest contemporaries like Upton Sinclair and Sherwood Anderson who stained up my wonder years with their crap. Plus he was a journalist by trade about which my disdain should be obvious.

That said it wasn't unrelentingly terrible and was a page turner of sorts. I gave it a three at Goodreads so that's ok. He really only had two main characters, Carrie and Hurstwood, and the title character was oddly ill defined (I'm guessing that Dreiser isn't a fave of the wimmenz studies harpies and might even have his own chapter of REEEE within the coven). Hurstwood, whom I internally pictured as Stacy Keach, was a good example of "a man's gotta know his limitations" when he gave up a good, but boring, life to pursue young cooch.

That was a book group read and since, in Pandemic mania, our meeting place is closed, who knows when we'll get together next? There was talk of discussing it by email but that hasn't happened. Plus it's not like I don't have other stuff to read.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 29, 2020 09:29 AM (y7DUB)

87 That book was a bit porny for Jane. But I haven't checked; does any hordester remember?
Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (ZbwAu)
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Yep, Lewis's The Monk was porny.

Oh, would she have read it? It was very popular. And as it was, uh, seminal, any parody of gothic novels would have to give it a nod.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:30 AM (Dc2NZ)

88 Another thing I have been doing is clearing out some books that I am never going to read again. Some will go to used stores that accept them in trade, but I will be putting up a list in the summer for any NH or MA Morons who want to come by Stately Poppins Manor and leave with a couple of boxes full of books.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:30 AM (2JVJo)

89 I wonder if "effascinable" would be right to
describe Catherine Moreland in Northanger Abbey. Watched the new movie
version with my wife. I am VERY skeptical about The Monk being on
Catherine's reading list. That book was a bit porny for Jane. But I
haven't checked; does any hordester remember?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (ZbwAu)

It makes sense because in chapter 7 of novel Henry Tilney tells her that hadn't been a "terribly decent (novel) come out since Tom Jones, except The Monk" and all the others "are the stupidest things in creation." She preferred Mrs. Radcliffe's novels like Udolpho.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 09:30 AM (nRNOc)

90 Alice Cooper wore a bra at home? I know he was weird until he became normal and took up golf. But no way he wore a bra lounging at home. I get the joke and wish I could ad more to the discussion.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:30 AM (hHxp2)

91 For you Post-Apocalyptic-ish fantasy fans, Moe Lane (formerly of RedState) is kickstarting his first novel he drafted during NaNoWriMo starting Wednesday; Frozen Dreams.

I was a Beta reader, and it was pretty good. A fantasy/noir detective novel set in a future Baja California.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moelane/frozen-dreams-a-novel

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 29, 2020 09:30 AM (ijEPD)

92 But I never get tired of anything on Easter or Horses


or....

Posted by: Radio Ethiopia at March 29, 2020 09:31 AM (gd9RK)

93 Left off the Fantasy Map: Galt's Gulch

Posted by: FloridaMan - still believes this is overreaction at March 29, 2020 09:31 AM (r28kI)

94 Those who then
embraces it would be talking of DNA today.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (ZbwAu)

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Yes, I've noticed that mentality popping up more recently, particularly regarding various social problems. "Well, X group simply is biologically predisposed to doing that. Nothing can be done."

And they then ignore historical periods where things were totally different, pretending that social conditions are irrelevant.

To give a well-known example, Thomas Sowell has pointed out that black families were once the most cohesive of any ethnic group. After liberation from slavery, the desire to be near one's kin, having children close, etc. was immensely powerful. Abandoning children was unspeakable.

It took decades to destroy those values and get where we are today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

95 82 A young, very young Keith Richards.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 29, 2020 09:25 AM (P1GvV)
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I don't think photography existed when Keith Richards was young.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (WEBkv)

The bird in the "camera" would chisel the picture in a stone tablet with its beak.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (NWiLs)

96 I'll be back. Going to throw some clothes into the wash.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (2JVJo)

97 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

98 And I've been enjoying Nancy Forbes and Basil Mahon's "Faraday Maxwell and the Electromagnetic Field," a marvelous look at the history of electromagnetics.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at March 29, 2020 09:17 AM (FXjhj)

*coughnerdcough*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:33 AM (G546f)

99 Those pants are fine. I would wear them to a gay hop.

Posted by: The Easter Bunny at March 29, 2020 09:33 AM (Tnijr)

100 Who Dis?


Every formerly sentient human after reading one paragraph of James Joyce.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 09:33 AM (m45I2)

101 Who dis?


That's a man baby!

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2020 09:33 AM (/bKbU)

102 Am reading Patrick Quentin's A Puzzle for Fools, the first (1936) in a series about theatrical producer and ex-drunk Peter Duluth, who turns amateur detective while in a sanatarium drying out. Two murders happen, and his future wife Iris is suspected. There are a few of those "said-isms" that modern writing texts warn us about, like "I exclaimed imploringly." Touches of humor, too.

No idea whether this will turn out to be a well-reasoned solution like those in Ellery Queen, or a more modern thing were the detective just gets a hunch and follows it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:34 AM (rpbg1)

103 The bird in the "camera" would chisel the picture in a stone tablet with its beak.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (NWiLs)


It's a living!

Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 09:34 AM (t+qrx)

104 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a pleasant, if separate, week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 09:34 AM (7EjX1)

105
I cant believe Thomas Jefferson wouldnt own a porn collection.

Posted by: MHK at March 29, 2020 09:34 AM (iQIUe)

106 There was talk of discussing it by email but that hasn't happened. Plus it's not like I don't have other stuff to read.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 29, 2020 09:29 AM (y7DUB)
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My book club is supposed to try doing our early April meeting via Zoom. I don't know how well that will work, but we will see.

As an aside, my youngest daughter told me that Generation Z has now taken to calling themselves Zoomers since so many of them are using it for their college classes now. She said they used to use Zoomers as a joke playing on Boomers but now it actually makes sense.

Posted by: bluebell at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (/669Q)

107 I don't think photography existed when Keith Richards was young.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (WEBkv)

The bird in the "camera" would chisel the picture in a stone tablet with its beak.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020


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Fun fact: Keith dated Betty Rubble before she married Barney.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (rpbg1)

108 the lady from that tv show "MOM" after a really hard week?

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (hHxp2)

109 I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

yeah
not ready, not crafting
over snacking
bad signs

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (G546f)

110 Who Dis?


Finnegan, not yet a wake.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (m45I2)

111 Morning, Horde!

I've been reading The Dark Ages 476-918, by Charles Oman. It was published in the 1800s, and I'm not sure how much value it has as a history book. What I like about it is the tone. Books from the era have a confidence in their narrative that's missing from today; modern nonfiction writers try, but it just comes across as whiny to me. Older authors happily tell you what to think about XYZ historical figure, and while I don't usually like people telling me what to think, it is kind of fascinating in these cases.

On the writing front, I've finished the first book of my Mercenary series; it should be out soon. Big tough guy wanders around pseudo-Europe slaying monsters and ogling the ladies in a series of short, episodic adventures. Yes, I was inspired by The Witcher; why do you ask?

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (zlzYb)

112 Daguerre took one of the first pictures with Keith Richards as the subject

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (ZCEU2)

113 Jordan61 @20, if you are interested in the concept of generation ships, a more recent (from the 1990s) use of the concept is Gene Wolfe's series "The Book of the Long Sun".

"Orphans of the Sky" is, of course, a classic.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (9AOND)

114 "Vincent Furnier"

Discovered by FZ btw.

Posted by: A Zillion Dollar Baby at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (Tnijr)

115 {{{vmom}}}

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (lwiT4)

116 I didn't read anything this week, either, except for the HR slide presentation from the company who is taking over my department at work.

So, in the midst of isolation, we have to try to decide whether to try to get hired by the new company, or look for another job (as if anyone is hiring right now).

Sigh.

I need a good humorous book this week.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (OX9vb)

117 Alice Cooper was also on a top state level track team in high school.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (HX5Qm)

118 As an aside, my youngest daughter told me that Generation Z has now taken to calling themselves Zoomers since so many of them are using it for their college classes now. She said they used to use Zoomers as a joke playing on Boomers but now it actually makes sense.
Posted by: bluebell at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (/669Q)

It's certainly more succinct than "Tide-Pod-eating retards who bring shame to their families and disgrace to their ancestors."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (NWiLs)

119 I need a good humorous book this week.
Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (OX9vb)
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Can't go wrong with P.G. Wodehouse.

Posted by: bluebell at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (/669Q)

120 I didn't read anything this week, either, except for the HR slide presentation from the company who is taking over my department at work.
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This is the saddest sentence I've ever read.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (Dc2NZ)

121 In keeping with the theme of keeping yourself pleasantly occupied during Wuhan Lung Rot lock-down, here's information some vintage cocktail books:

The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks by David A. Embury ("new, revised ed." 195. An important book with lots of information concerning the development of the cocktail. Author was an attorney with a knowlege of cocktails before, during and after Prohibition. Not just a book of recipes, the author sets out to help the reader avoid some pitfalls and tells you what he likes (strong "dry" cocktails) and doesn't like. Rating = 5.0/5 (Book went through three editions and rather expensive; there is a fairly recent reprint but I don't for which ed.)


Esquire's Handbook for Hosts ("new enlarged ed." 1953). Lot's of mid-century advice for the eligible bachelor on food and drink. Sprinkled with some amusing drawings, it is a bit frank about how the bachelor should pursue and capture his prey (his not too unwilling lady friend). Fun book; rating = 4.5/5 (the reprint does not have the information on outdoor parties).


Trader Vic's Bartender's Guide ("revised ed." 1972). Lots of recipe's and some advice on how to run a bar. Pretty good but he does tend to brag about how great and innovative he is. Rating = 4.25/5.0 (There is a 1947 edition out there, but Trader Vic writes that he dropped a number of unpopular/outdated recipes from his revised book).


Three Bottle Bar by H.i.Williams (1952, I have the British ed. from 1954). Curious little book with 50 recipes in which you only need 1 bottle each of gin, whiskey and white wine. He gives a bit of advise on mixing drinks, expanding the bar (add rum and scotch) and using a simple syrup to avoid wasting sugar (post-WWII shortages!). Some original ideas but not indispensible; rating = 4.0/5.


Esquire Party Handbook (1965 edition). More food recipes than the "Handbook for Hosts" but not as well organized. Rating = 3.5/5.


The "Old Mr. Boston" Bartender's Guide is useful, too. I have the 1948 (lots of older recipes) and 1979 editions (newer recipes and a bit more mixing advise). It is interesting to see how some some liquors disappear (such as Creme d' Yvette) and appear (such as vodka) between the two editions. Lots of these are available at different price-points; rating = 3.9/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (00fXp)

122 Was the story we've always heard, about General
Butler confiscating all the family silver and thus becoming known as
"Spoons" Butler, true?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:29 AM (rpbg1)

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The part I read only covers the initial capture, not the occupation. There may be a piece on that later. It runs chronologically.

Funny you mentioned that, though. One of my ancestors claimed to have owned the shop where the alleged theft took place.

I suspect it's like being at Woodstock.

Anyhow, having been ruined financially, they went back to Germany for a spell, returning later on, presumably when their fortunes improved.

This time they settled in Long Island. They were Jewish (and proud Confederates!), and the branch that stayed in Europe was wiped out in the subsequent unpleasantness.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (cfSRQ)

123 She isn't from State Farm and she isn't Jake
She's trying to read about someone's wake
His name is Finnegan
And she has to begin again
Poor Patti Smith just can't stay awake

Posted by: Radio Ethiopia at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (gd9RK)

124 Amazon has a number of Kindle C.S. Lewis books on sale today.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (DMUuz)

125 97 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

I'm doing supr

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (NWiLs)

126 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (u82oZ)

127 Foolery so utterly groundless as Astrology

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I think that that there may be or, back in olden days, may have been some validity to astrology. A baby born on December 21 who first several months are an experience of cold, snow, and ice may have a different view on the world than a baby born on March 21 amidst the greenery and flowers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (+y/Ru)

128 Today is a rare case of my being here and actually wearing pants. A bathrobe is my usual attire. But I had to pick up an order at Krogers. I was pleased about how fast it was; they'd warned of delays. One nice thing was that, for 3 items I had ordered, they didn't have them in stock, so they replaced them with more expensive variants, at the originally quoted price.

For my current reading, I'm mentally down, as I don't feel very well (no, not the Yellow Plague). So I'm as usual going to the standard backups, GKC, Lewis, and Bill James. Also Waugh's essays. The last included one, "Two Unquiet Lives" which has a brutal (and fun) takedown of Steven Spender.

Of course, Waugh was notable for viciousness. But there are a few where that changes. His "The American Era in the Catholic Church" includes a very favorable note on the black Catholics in Maryland. And of course, there is the entire shift of tone when he writes about Wodehouse.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (ZbwAu)

129 thanks grammie
sucky weather doesn't help
must remember to take my vit F

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (G546f)

130 I need a good humorous book this week.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (OX9vb)
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Can't go wrong with P.G. Wodehouse.

Posted by: bluebell at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (/669Q)

Dave Barry can make me lol.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (X/Pw5)

131 I am surprised TJ's library remains standing and that the left hasn't torched the place. Nice pic.

Posted by: Locke Common at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (0rJX+)

132 lol vit D
not F

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (G546f)

133 ... effascinable passivity of Phancie...


*********

I heard this in Mike Tyson's voice.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (m45I2)

134 I'm purring through "Treasure Island," which I've never read before. For a classic of literature, it's a good story. Much more straightforward than I had expected, which is a relief. Hooray for the Internet Archive!

I see that "The Andromeda Strain" is being snapped up around the country. I read this in high school and loved it. The printout pages and the like really grabbed me.

Now I see a different author has grabbed the concept and produced "The Andromeda Evolution," with updates in technology. I flipped through this in the supermarket, and it looked interesting.

As a rule, I dislike piggyback authors, but Crichton's name appears on the cover, so he might have had a hand in this.

Have any Morons read this? What did you think?

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (u/nim)

135 11 Is that Patti Smith?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)


Yes, but CN beat you at #5. You have to be pretty quick on the book thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 09:40 AM (Nq3+Y)

136 Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (9AOND)

Thanks for the recommendation!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 09:40 AM (6ofTb)

137 ALERT!! BREAKING NEWS!!

The today only Kindle Daily Deals has a shit ton (sorry about the technical jargon) of CS Lewis books for $1.99 each. This includes most of the Narnia books and some compendiums of his essays on prayer and being Christian.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 09:40 AM (7EjX1)

138 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week
but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I
can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with
depression are experiencing the same.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

I've been having similar issues, partly because I'm also stuck in the house with a person who is NOT taking this well. I've been doing a lot of sewing, to keep myself away from the news.

Hang in there.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 09:40 AM (zlzYb)

139 Plutarch? Wasn't he one of the Keebler Elves?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (+y/Ru)

140 Look also for National Lampoon's Doon, a parody of guess what series which emerged in the '80s when the David Lynch film came out. It is in the same style as Bored, and it even parodies the glossary of the original Herbert novel. Example:



"Orthodontothopter: An appliance consisting of fixed metal strips
held in place by rubber bands. Expensive, but in the long run,
definitely worth it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:26 AM (rpbg1)

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Bored of the Rings is unquestionably funnier than Doon, but the latter has its moments. I own both.

For those who don't know, the central joke of Doon is that Arruckus - Dessert Planet - is a vast sugary wasteland populated with giant salt pretzels. It is also the sole source of beer.

The Freedmenmen have permanently bloodshot eyes from constant exposure.

Lots of mocking Herbert's oddball writing style as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (cfSRQ)

141 I need a good humorous book this week.
Posted by: April

Dave Barry's Big Trouble

Tricky Business is good too !

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (arJlL)

142
Alice Cooper was Eddie Haskell

In the early 70s, it was widely reported that Leave It to Beaver
star Ken Osmond had become "rock star Alice Cooper." According to
Cooper, the rumor began when a college newspaper editor asked him what
kind of kid he was, to which Cooper replied, "I was obnoxious,
disgusting, a real Eddie Haskell." However, the story ended up reporting
that Cooper was the real Haskell.

It got to the point where Cooper had a t-shirt made reading: No. I'm not Eddie Haskell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (4mKR9)

143 lol vit D

not F

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:39 AM (G546f)


LOL I was wondering

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (lwiT4)

144 "Alice Cooper" is used a chorus/refrain on one of the songs on Frank Zappa's Fillmore East 1971 album.

MisHum has been providing an excellent introduction to Frank Zappa on the ONT, BTW.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (DMUuz)

145 124 Amazon has a number of Kindle C.S. Lewis books on sale today.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (DMUuz)

Will definitely look into this.

As for Patti Smith, my college experience with the fellow co-op person who blasted her shit day and night, turned me off forever. Wasn't she a big fan of Nader and other leftist causes?

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:41 AM (ONvIw)

146 This is the saddest sentence I've ever read.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (Dc2NZ)

*snif...thank you

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (OX9vb)

147 >>I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.


Yes. I though I would catch up on reading but no.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (bDqIh)

148 What the hell? Let's try this again:


97 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

I'm doing surprisingly well, but mostly by keeping up with my usual activities as much as possible. The hair-on-fire hysteria going on all around is aggravating, though I'm trying to tune that out as much as possible.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (NWiLs)

149 Hang in there.


Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 09:40 AM (zlzYb)


You too!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (lwiT4)

150 I've been playing duolingo though
added Latin last week
so far I can say a bunch of people are sleeping
it's a bit weird

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (G546f)

151 "Can't go wrong with P.G. Wodehouse"


Gutenberg has a bunch of free Wodehouse. Latest addition in February was "Ukridge".

"Ukridge is always on the verge of making a fortune and counting his thousands before they are made. But Dame Fortune is a fickle jade. She eludes him in his great scheme about the dog college, wherein he was to turn out a world supply of trained dogs"

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (Tnijr)

152 "The Atlas of Middle Earth" is a good read that "explains" middle earth in the context of real earth geology and geography. (It doesn't neglect all of the historical maps.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at March 29, 2020 09:42 AM (cT2Wi)

153 Good morning, y'all. Thanks for the National Emergency Library link, OM. Methinks it will be useful.

Posted by: Bert G at March 29, 2020 09:43 AM (OMsf+)

154 Insomniac - that's wonderful!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:43 AM (lwiT4)

155 Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (OX9vb)

April! I remember you mentioning you are a true crime fan, like me. There is a podcast called Small Town Murder which I am really enjoying. It's done by two comedians which sounds weird I know, but it's good.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 09:44 AM (6ofTb)

156 34 OK, no cheating, for five points what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9R


Vincent Damon Fournier, and he's quite a golf enthusiast.

Used to golf regularly with Bob Hope.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 09:44 AM (Nq3+Y)

157 Bored of the Rings is unquestionably funnier than Doon, but the latter has its moments. I own both.

For those who don't know, the central joke of Doon is that Arruckus - Dessert Planet - is a vast sugary wasteland populated with giant salt pretzels. It is also the sole source of beer.

The Freedmenmen have permanently bloodshot eyes from constant exposure.

Lots of mocking Herbert's oddball writing style as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020


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Doon is so on-target with its lances that even if it isn't as funny as Bored, it's as memorable.

The "gom jabbar" from the original is called the "kareem-abdul jabbar," translated as "the long-legged, high-handed enemy." And the "Kwisatz Haderach" becomes the "Kumquatz Haagendasz."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:44 AM (rpbg1)

158 This has been mostly light and amusing reading this week.

The MASH books have long been a weakness of mine, silly and over the top as they are. However, the first two in the series, "MASH Goes to Maine" and "MASH Mania" are my favorites and better than the original for my taste. This week it was "MASH Mania" which is damn funny, completely non-PC, and sometimes quite poignant. These first two were written by Hooker himself, not co-written. I wish he had done more like these.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (7EjX1)

159 Hope I'm not too OT but this video about the virus I think needs to go..uh...viral. This was posted by a friend whose wife is a cardiologist who has been tangentially involved in fighting this thing in NYC. I highly recommend watching this.

https://youtu.be/cjUOpvmDE7k

Posted by: WTP at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (WQfDg)

160 The hair-on-fire hysteria going on all around is aggravating, though I'm trying to tune that out as much as possible.

Yep. I think doing just that is key to weathering this storm.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (EgshT)

161 Insomniac - that's wonderful!
Posted by: grammie winger

Oh, here we go........

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (arJlL)

162 If anyone is looking for a good movie, PATTERNS (195 written by Rod Seeling. The ultimate "tell off the asshoe boss (but who isn't entirely an asshoe)" story. It's on YT.

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (ldmQR)

163 Finnegan's Wake didn't put Patti to sleep, she's just resting her eyes. She's a sharp chick who tears through books like this the way I tear through P.G. Wodehouse or Saki.

Posted by: so many clever people at March 29, 2020 09:45 AM (vc4+d)

164
Thomas Jefferson's Library featuring The Un-Comfy Chair.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (z0XD8)

165 IIRC he's spent a lot of time helping musicians overcome substance abuse, and is overall a really good dude.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (NWiLs)


Politically conservative, too, iirc.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (Nq3+Y)

166 154 Insomniac - that's wonderful!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:43 AM (lwiT4)

I reckon it is. I've experienced that inability to concentrate many a time over the years. Going and doing something you like that doesn't require much concentration, yet is sufficiently distracting, can help.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (NWiLs)

167 Now that I've read the content...

Thomas Jefferson was a cool dude. I like people who are curious about what's going on around them, and he certainly had wide ranging interests. The experimental garden at Monticello is one of my favorite 'tourist' attractions.

I may have to pick up a copy of the mapmaking book. Part of authoring is worldbuilding, and geography isn't always as intuitive as it looks. I have some background because I grew up on construction sites (drainage is drainage, whether it's a little culvert or a giant river) but I should probably do some actual learning about the subject instead of winging it.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (zlzYb)

168 Yeah, CN, Patti Smith is definitely a leftist.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (OX9vb)

169 I'm going to go watch church online. Not ours - Ha

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (lwiT4)

170 29
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

that's Alice Cooper

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 09:11 AM (CeiD


Tisn't.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 09:47 AM (Nq3+Y)

171 I read Louis L'amour's book "The Sackett Brand". I remember it as cannon but this time the story seemed bland and obviously part of a series. The story had no twists and turns at all other than to say over and over that if you messed with a Sackett, they would all team up and never quit.

There were some good Sackett books and obviously they meant a lot to the author. But I much prefer his stand alone novels. Two I have read recently that I really liked were The Iron Marshal and To Tame a Land.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:47 AM (hHxp2)

172 Currently reading The Bombers and the Bombed: Allied Air War Over Europe 1940-1945 by Richard Overy. This is very well sourced. The strategic implications are well laid out. He shows how the UK effort was bungled, the USAAF finally got the right strategy, and plenty from the German perspective, from the defenses, leadership, and the local fire and civil defense efforts.

He shows how the Germans, under severe bombing, never buckled. He has a spot-on detail missed by many others on what the Combined Bombing Offensive missed in their target analysis. This is going to be the definitive top-down analysis of the bombing campaign. He puts the personal struggles of all into bracing context.

I recommend this, and other books by this author.

He is the same author of that tour-de-force analysis, Why the Allies Won.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 29, 2020 09:47 AM (u82oZ)

173
I'm Your Huckleberry, Finn - a limerick

A young water skier named Jake
Soon realized he'd made a mistake
He tried some hot-dogging
But it's mighty tough slogging
To make it through Finnegan's wake

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 09:47 AM (m45I2)

174 From Doon:

The boy grew silent. Something was troubling his mother - something she chose to deny rather than explain. And he knew she knew he could perceive them - had she not been his teacher? Had she not made it her own goal to educate her son in the Boni Maroni Ways and Means?

True, such training was unusual for a boy; the Boni Maroni order was, after all, principally composed of women.

Perhaps I am a woman, Pall thought.

But his heightened powers of observation were able to discern, between his legs and hidden from the casual observer by the clothing of his race, those telltale organs that confirmed his intuition that he was indeed a male-man.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

175 Since our books are sourced from the public library, a voracious reading habit has me jonesing.
Savoring "the roosevelt myth" (john t flynn) 1948. Devastates the TCM old movies attitude where everybody worships him. Absolutely prolonged and deepened the depression and ww2 while exploding growth of federal control and budget. A lying manipulative jerk.
Must reading, every page rich with "he f*ucking did What?"

Posted by: getting the banned back together socialist distancing at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (BuDVX)

176 Greetings, O Book Thread!

While I have been industriously writing during the Great Hunkering, I wish to bring news of particular interest to the 'ettes. A relative of mine, Olivia Sinclair, is writing a romance series (that I have christened the "Abs" for the splendid muscular torsos that grace the covers). The particular volume I recommend for Horde consumption is "Damon" -- because it features a love scene with extensive (and pertinent!) quotations from the Constitution. Which is something not often encountered in romance novels!
Now, for another work of mine in progress--can anyone recommend some good early histories of China? Bonus points for fortresses and wars vs court intrigue.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (exg7Q)

177 My first and almost certainly last attempt with James Joyce was Dubliners. I know I didn't make it through the first chapter.

My enjoyment rate with classics is probably over 75%, so I try to get to something "new to me" several times a year.

Favorite recently was Tristam Shandy. Never on my radar, but thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably at least a few others hear that would enjoy novel with odd discressions about obscure 18th century British Dutch sieges.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (x8Q/V)

178 I finished up the flight attendant (soon to be an hbo max series with kaley cuocco) I picked up one of Andrew kaplan's scorpions series, he's ex israeli army, he started this series with an freelance cia operative, who was raised by a Saudi sheikh, he uses a fair number of foreign names and smatterings of languages, in Arabic or Russian or Ukrainian for authenticity, the first places are close to reality, the second are on point, the last one,scorpion winter takes place in the Ukraine and yemen, the first part is that an op is blown in the latter region, and he ends up in the former, where he is given a tip that one candidate is to be assassinated, guess what happens next, oh and he gets involved with a scorching hawt campaign staffer, as they get chased through all the places, that hunter biden would hang out,

Posted by: gaius martius at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (hMlTh)

179 "His fater,Peter Jefferson" maybe HE ate the books?

Posted by: saf at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (5IHGB)

180 Hey, Jordan, I'll check that out! I like My Favorite Murder, which is also done by a couple of very funny gals.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (OX9vb)

181 Is that Patti Smith?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

Who else has that face?
Posted by: CN

Who'd want one?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (+y/Ru)

182 Nearly 50 years ago I worked in the computing/math department of a major medical school. In a group dripping with nerds, the biggest nerds were the three systems programmers.

One of these guys said he believed in astrology to some extent because he had been a physics major. Physical forces vary during the year, so it just made sense to him that there might be something to the idea that being born at different times of the year made a difference in your personality.

He also used to talk about how someday computers would be small enough to carry around with you. Mind you, this was in the days in where there were only room-sized mainframes.

But then he also went up on the roof to smoke a joint at lunch every day.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 29, 2020 09:49 AM (fTtFy)

183 If anyone is looking for a good movie, PATTERNS (195 written by Rod Seeling. The ultimate "tell off the asshoe boss (but who isn't entirely an asshoe)" story. It's on YT.
Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at March 29, 2020


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I saw that on the Oldmovies channel. Friday night I watched Phone Call From a Stranger. It's a drama, not a thriller, but very good, with Gary Merrill, Michael Rennie as a doctor with a sad past, Shelley Winters when she was young and cute, Keenan Wynn as an obnoxious but lovable novelty salesman, and Bette Davis. Script by stage writer Nunnally Johnson. Quite good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:49 AM (rpbg1)

184 Yes, I've noticed that mentality popping up more recently, particularly regarding various social problems. "Well, X group simply is biologically predisposed to doing that. Nothing can be done."

This is a fairly common position amongst the actual "alt right" (as opposed to the media definition where everyone to the right of Mao is "alt right").

It's possible to accept that there are differences among groups and to still treat members of those groups as individuals. Treating people as individuals is one of the foundations of modern conservatism.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 29, 2020 09:50 AM (6XLoz)

185 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)


Same here. I'll pick up a book and then put it back down again. I'm pissed at myself for not writing, and I really am depressed, though I can't put a finger on exactly why. There's a sort of hollow feeling in me that's more than my usual depression. I can't sleep, and even doing something completely mindless- sitting on the couch watching TV - drives me batty.

I need a reward. "Finish this scene and I'll dress up like Anna Held. Finish this chapter and I'll undress, too."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

186 168 Yeah, CN, Patti Smith is definitely a leftist.
Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:46 AM (OX9vb)

This wouldn't bother me if I liked listening to her, but I don't. I remember myself having to leave my room because her greatest fan was playing the same 2 LPs over and over and over. It became unbearable to the point two of the guys threatened to vote her out of the co-op.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:52 AM (ONvIw)

187 185 I've read not one thing this week. I usually average two books a week but this isolation-thing is doing some very bad things to my head and I can't concentrate on anything. I'm wondering if other people with depression are experiencing the same.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

Same here. I'll pick up a book and then put it back down again. I'm pissed at myself for not writing, and I really am depressed, though I can't put a finger on exactly why. There's a sort of hollow feeling in me that's more than my usual depression. I can't sleep, and even doing something completely mindless- sitting on the couch watching TV - drives me batty.

I need a reward. "Finish this scene and I'll dress up like Anna Held. Finish this chapter and I'll undress, too."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

I think the circumstances we're in right now play a huge part in that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:52 AM (NWiLs)

188 I'm continuing with "Praying the Rosary Like Never Before". It is so different from the simple rote that I was taught as a youngster, with no attempt to provide depth, understanding, or context. It was a mechanical process that was meaningless. That kind of approach led to half a century of me being an agnostic. What a waste.

Anyhow, I'm taking the book slowly to absorb the many references and meanings that are so new to me. There are a lot of diversions as I spend time with JP II writings and, finally, start to read the Gospels.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (7EjX1)

189 Once again, a link to the truly indispensable reading on this period: Lewis's introduction contains a discussion of this (and much else):

https://tinyurl.com/qlqs42j

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (ZbwAu)


That book is actually in the public domain? Wow. I guess the Estate of C.S. Lewis did not care enough about it to renew the copyrights.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (Nq3+Y)

190 Same here. I'll pick up a book and then put it back down again. I'm pissed at myself for not writing, and I really am depressed, though I can't put a finger on exactly why. There's a sort of hollow feeling in me that's more than my usual depression. I can't sleep, and even doing something completely mindless- sitting on the couch watching TV - drives me batty.

I need a reward. "Finish this scene and I'll dress up like Anna Held. Finish this chapter and I'll undress, too."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020


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I'm still getting used to having Internet at home. But I need to apply the seat of my pants to the seat of my chair and write *something*. I have an idea that is bounding around the back of my mind like a kitten with a rattle ball. So I need to sit down and start playing with it. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (rpbg1)

191 Was going to ask this Thomas Jefferson, is he a daytime commentator?
Don't see him in the evening or weekends, nice library though.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (ZCEU2)

192 Reason # 2,593,228 why I hate the MSM:
ABC's GMA lead story is about how President Trump is mulling over quarantining parts of the country, and "the immediate, strong reaction" to the idea.
Here's the formula: spend 10 minutes on the story, using as many Democrats as possible (because Orange Man Bad), and at the end taking 10 seconds to turn into Emily Litella "He changed his mind. Never mind!"

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (T09ml)

193 I need a good humorous book this week.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:36 AM (OX9vb)


The late Patrick McManus was a funny writer. He wrote columns for Field and Stream magazine about hunting and fishing and the adventures he had as a child in northern Washington State. Even if you're not into the outdoors (and I am not), he can be gut-bustingly funny at times.

https://tinyurl.com/wc9973m

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (2JVJo)

194 Started Landscape and Memory by Simon Schama last week, which I think was the last thing he wrote before he went full lib retard. I started it years ago and put it down for some reason; maybe I got bogged down on looking up some footnotes or something. Anyway it's well narrated and about telling the history of an era by scrutinizing the landscape. He starts with a section on visiting the Cross at Giby in Poland with stones commemorating partisans who fell to the krauts and commies. He then goes on to describe his family's ties to the area as Jew lumberjacks, pretty much laying waste to a stereotype. He then finds a grown over jooo cemetery out in the sticks that barely anyone knew about.

He then goes on to narrate Polish/Lithuanian deep forest areas that remained fairly pristine though massive border realignments through the 17th through 19th centuries and how the Lithuanian bison was such an awesome wild beast that could only thrive in the deep woods. It's very enjoyable to read and shows what a good writer Schama was before he became a bitter politicized dickhole.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 29, 2020 09:54 AM (y7DUB)

195 Of course, Waugh was notable for viciousness. But
there are a few where that changes. His "The American Era in the
Catholic Church" includes a very favorable note on the black Catholics
in Maryland. And of course, there is the entire shift of tone when he
writes about Wodehouse.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:38 AM (ZbwAu)

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A friend of mine is reading Waugh's Sword of Honour trilogy. He says it is alternately hilarious and heart-breaking. Waugh's satire was subtle, which made it both funnier but also more potent.

I much prefer it to Catch-22 or MASH, because the things Waugh writes about may actually have happened, though in a slightly different form.

He piles minor absurdities on top of each other, creating a mountain of foolishness, but each step is all too plausible.

And unlike Heller or Hooker, he never forgets the seriousness of the war itself. When you least expect it, he'll drop a line to the effect of:

"At that very moment, unbeknownst to Guy, another train packed with doomed souls rolled mournfully into the night."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)

196 Just finished rereading Ordeal by Sea: The Tragedy of the U.S.S. Indianapolis by Thomas Helm. Talk about being in the shit due to a life-altering experience. Whew.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 29, 2020 09:55 AM (EgshT)

197 May the depression is maybe due to hardly anything being normal anymore.

This shit has to stop and soon.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 29, 2020 09:56 AM (f7Img)

198 The late Patrick McManus was a funny writer. He wrote columns for Field and Stream
magazine about hunting and fishing and the adventures he had as a child
in northern Washington State. Even if you're not into the outdoors
(and I am not), he can be gut-bustingly funny at times.



https://tinyurl.com/wc9973m

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (2JVJo)

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My parents loved his stuff. He's got a bunch of memorable characters who pop up from time to time and does riffs on camping with Army surplus gear.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

199 112 Daguerre took one of the first pictures with Keith Richards as the subject
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (ZCEU2)
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But it was disappointing compared with the Velasquez portrait of Richards.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:56 AM (ZbwAu)

200 That post was horrid. I need more coffee.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 29, 2020 09:57 AM (f7Img)

201 I switched to audio books. I am new to them, trying to figure out if I like them.
I finished "Founding Fathers" by Captivating History. 24 hours worth.
The Amazon free trial offer.

Posted by: navybrat at large at March 29, 2020 09:57 AM (w7KSn)

202 "The Atlas of Middle Earth"
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A brilliant idea. Thanks! I just pulled it from the shelf.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:58 AM (Dc2NZ)

203 I'm continuing with "Praying the Rosary Like Never
Before". It is so different from the simple rote that I was taught as a
youngster, with no attempt to provide depth, understanding, or context.
It was a mechanical process that was meaningless. That kind of approach
led to half a century of me being an agnostic. What a waste.



Anyhow, I'm taking the book slowly to absorb the many references and
meanings that are so new to me. There are a lot of diversions as I
spend time with JP II writings and, finally, start to read the Gospels.





Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (7EjX1)

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Bless you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:58 AM (cfSRQ)

204 I need a good humorous book this week.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020


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Aside from the aforementioned Bored of the Rings and Doon, look for Red Sky at Morning by Richard Bradford. It's a 1968 novel, a coming-of-age story of a teenage boy during WWII, when his father, a shipbuilder, joins the Navy and sends him and his mother to Sagrado, NM (a town modeled on Santa Fe), to keep them safe. Hilarious, with colorful eccentric characters -- a novel with people you'd want to spend time with in real life.

H'wood filmed it in 1968 or '69 with Richard Thomas in the lead. I'm not sure he was right for it, as I've never seen the flick. The novel is dynamite.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 29, 2020 09:58 AM (rpbg1)

205 118
It's certainly more succinct than "Tide-Pod-eating retards who bring shame to their families and disgrace to their ancestors."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (NWiLs)
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Well, unlike some my age, I think the name "Boomer Removal" for the Yellow Peril is pretty funny. The kind of thing we would have said, back in the day when Lampoon formed our thinking.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:58 AM (ZbwAu)

206 Thanks for the suggestions! I think I'll go with Dave Barry or Patrick McManus.

I've never read P. G. Wodehouse, though...come to think of it, I think I have one of his books lying around here somewhere, which I picked up at a thrift store. Maybe I'll try that one.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 09:59 AM (OX9vb)

207 Daguerre took one of the first pictures with Keith Richards as the subject
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (ZCEU2)
_______

But it was disappointing compared with the Velasquez portrait of Richards.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 09:56 AM (ZbwAu)


Fun fact: Vic fronted Keef the money for his first guitar.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:59 AM (2JVJo)

208 Regarding the word EFFASCINABLE, one of my favorite words is ENSCORCELL, which means 'to enchant'. I can never use it in a real sentence, unfortunately.

I first encountered the word by reading an article by Maureen Dowd, of all people Once she started using it, I saw it published several times after that. It was kind of like James Taranto's crusade to have a word - I now forget which one - used in common parlance again.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 29, 2020 09:59 AM (m2EfB)

209 It's certainly more succinct than "Tide-Pod-eating retards who bring shame to their families and disgrace to their ancestors."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (NWiLs)

I prefer your long form.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:59 AM (H8QX8)

210 Prefacing this book review by saying that I despise all vampire, werewolf, zombie and assorted other monster genres.

With that established, I tell you this: Hie thee hence immediately and read our own Christopher R. Taylor's Life Unworthy. It is an excellent story well written.

Imagine you are a Pole in 1942, living in the Bloodlands (the area of Eastern Poland/Western Ukraine in which Stalin and Hitler managed to murder 12 million people between 1933 and 1945), just trying to survive another day, trying to keep your head down, terrified every second of every day.

Unleashed into this environment is an extremely pissed off werewolf who has just survived being gassed at Auschwitz. A situation that cannot be imagined to be worse suddenly is.

I really enjoyed this book even though the subject matter was so dark. Well-written characters, a lot of action, plenty of terror, and a huge number of Nazis getting what they deserve via angry lycanthrope.

I cannot recommend this book too highly.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:00 AM (ulOTf)

211 210 Prefacing this book review by saying that I despise all vampire, werewolf, zombie and assorted other monster genres.

BURN THE HERETIC!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:00 AM (NWiLs)

212 I loved the first two Sackett books. (Which got made into the movie) The movie annoyed me by having the two younger brothers show up to help the older brother.

The movie was more reflective of the later Sackett books then the ordinal two.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at March 29, 2020 10:01 AM (XEC2p)

213 We went to Monticello this September and the SJW tour ruined it.

We did get plenty of architectural pics for ideas and the grounds are cool, being on top of a mountain.

My wife and I looked at each other more than a few times wanting to get out of the house tour, but we ended up just ignoring the girl giving the tour who was probably one of the perps tearing statues down. Disappointing. But we got what we needed. Beautiful home. Back in the day, that must have been quite a sight for visitors.

Madison's Montpelier was a much more enjoyable tour.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 10:01 AM (B95HO)

214 Last week had Read Tolkien Day, which got me going on some of his non-LOTR stories. I already had a nice hardcover edition of "Tales From The Perilous Realm", which contains most of these and has illustrations by Alan Lee. The first I read was "Roverandom", a story that began as a bedtime story for Tolkien's small children. Not surprising, it is a sweet, creative story about a toy dog and his adventures. Besides the pleasant reading, it is fun to note certain echoes that made me think of Bilbo in "The Hobbit".

The second story was "Farmer Giles of Ham", written (or published) in the late 1940s. Tolkien had a sly, sometimes michievous, sense of humor and this story shows that. He skewers certain academics and turns the 'brave knight dragom slayer' motif on its head. Thoroughly enjoyable. It was easy to imagine Tolkien sharing this at meetings of the Inklings with a smile on his face.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 10:02 AM (7EjX1)

215 It's certainly more succinct than "Tide-Pod-eating retards who bring shame to their families and disgrace to their ancestors."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 09:37 AM (NWiLs)



I prefer your long form.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:59 AM (H8QX

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The thing is, there's a clear line between the Zoomers and the Millennials, and they resent the conflation just as much as Gen Xers dislike being called Boomers.

My eldest daughter is a Millennial, but her sisters are Zoomers and their worldviews are quite different.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:02 AM (cfSRQ)

216 There were some good Sackett books and obviously
they meant a lot to the author. But I much prefer his stand alone
novels. Two I have read recently that I really liked were The Iron
Marshal and To Tame a Land.


Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:47 AM


I'm a huge fan of The Walking Drum. It sucks that L'Amour died before finishing the sequel, though.

Posted by: Bert G at March 29, 2020 10:03 AM (OMsf+)

217 Riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay of horses.

Horses!

Horsey, horsey, HORSES!

Horsey, worsey, coursey, florsey, HORSES!!!

PORSEY!!! Pony! PHONY Ponies.

HORSES!

Can you do the Pony? Like My Little Pony?

The Mashed Potaty? The Alligaty?

All the way a lone. Lost my horsey scone! A last a loved a long the

HORSES!!!

Posted by: Patti Smith Dream at March 29, 2020 10:03 AM (z0XD8)

218 OM, Thanks for the thread, of course, and especially for that fantasy chart. Delightful!

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 10:03 AM (7EjX1)

219
The second story was "Farmer Giles of Ham",
written (or published) in the late 1940s. Tolkien had a sly, sometimes
michievous, sense of humor and this story shows that. He skewers certain
academics and turns the 'brave knight dragom slayer' motif on its head.
Thoroughly enjoyable. It was easy to imagine Tolkien sharing this at
meetings of the Inklings with a smile on his face.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 10:02 AM (7EjX1)

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That is a great story. It's basically Sam Gamgee unleashed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:04 AM (cfSRQ)

220 210 Prefacing this book review by saying that I despise all vampire, werewolf, zombie and assorted other monster genres.

With that established, I tell you this: Hie thee hence immediately and read our own Christopher R. Taylor's Life Unworthy. It is an excellent story well written.

I second this, including the part about despising the genre. Life Unworthy is very good.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 10:04 AM (OX9vb)

221 On apocalypse, few did it better, more richly and amusingly than Walker Percy in "Love in the Ruins."

Percy's beat was the human paradox which is always holding the seeds of ruin.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 10:05 AM (H8QX8)

222
The late Patrick McManus was a funny writer. He wrote columns for Field and Stream

magazine about hunting and fishing and the adventures he had as a child

in northern Washington State. Even if you're not into the outdoors

(and I am not), he can be gut-bustingly funny at times.


https://tinyurl.com/wc9973m



Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 09:53 AM (2JVJo)

I second this recommendation. McManus was hilarious.

And, MP4, when I'm feeling depressed, but can't even settle down to something mindless, I turn on whatever mindless tv show I can find, then do stretches, sit ups, push ups, etc. whenever I start getting restless. Usually in sets of five. I don't know how much benefit there is in it, but it makes me feel like I'm not just sitting on the couch, letting my brains ooze out of my ears.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 10:05 AM (zlzYb)

223 Imagine you are a Pole in 1942, living in the Bloodlands (the area of Eastern Poland/Western Ukraine in which Stalin and Hitler managed to murder 12 million people between 1933 and 1945), just trying to survive another day, trying to keep your head down, terrified every second of every day.

Unleashed into this environment is an extremely pissed off werewolf who has just survived being gassed at Auschwitz. A situation that cannot be imagined to be worse suddenly is.

I really enjoyed this book even though the subject matter was so dark. Well-written characters, a lot of action, plenty of terror, and a huge number of Nazis getting what they deserve via angry lycanthrope.

I cannot recommend this book too highly.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:00 AM (ulOTf)


That sounds right in my wheelhouse. One of my favorite parts of Bloodlands was about the Polish Underground out in the sticks, which what I gathered from the narrative is what you encountered very quickly when leaving an urban area. Anyway those guys trusted nobody because both sides were gunning for them, and were major league asskickers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 29, 2020 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

224 And, MP4, when I'm feeling depressed, but can't even settle down to something mindless, I turn on whatever mindless tv show I can find, then do stretches, sit ups, push ups, etc. whenever I start getting restless. Usually in sets of five. I don't know how much benefit there is in it, but it makes me feel like I'm not just sitting on the couch, letting my brains ooze out of my ears.
Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 10:05 AM (zlzYb)

Exercise, even mild exercise, is beneficial.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:07 AM (NWiLs)

225 @158 --

JTB, count me among those who love the "M*A*S*H" books. "Vienna" and "Miami" are my favorites, and "Montreal" and "Moscow" were disappointments. Consequently, I never read "Mania." Never read "Maine" or "New Orleans," either. The others -- constant rereads. Loved the footnotes.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 29, 2020 10:07 AM (u/nim)

226 A lot of folks commenting on C. S. Lewis today. Having listened to Bob Dylan's new 17-minute track on the JFK assassination, with all its name-dropping, I was rather hoping Bob might have spared a plug for Brother Jack, whose death on the very same day was completely ignored by the world, owing to the far higher profile end of POTUS 35. But he did not.

Posted by: Slow Learner at March 29, 2020 10:08 AM (hafXH)

227 177 My first and almost certainly last attempt with James Joyce was Dubliners. I know I didn't make it through the first chapter.

My enjoyment rate with classics is probably over 75%, so I try to get to something "new to me" several times a year.

Favorite recently was Tristam Shandy. Never on my radar, but thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably at least a few others hear that would enjoy novel with odd discressions about obscure 18th century British Dutch sieges.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at March 29, 2020 09:48 AM (x8Q/V)
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I have a friend who is deeply into military history. (That is, on land.) He said that Tristram Shandy was the best book he'd read to understand the Vauban system of fortifications. Things like exactly how a Half Moon differed from a Ravelin.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:08 AM (ZbwAu)

228
Once In A Lifetime - a limerick

I once read Ulysses by choice
(I say in my still, small voice)
'Twas so darned depressing
I shall e'er count my blessing
I'm so happy I'll never re-Joyce

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 10:08 AM (m45I2)

229 Jefferson died broke. So very sad, his final years.

Posted by: navybrat at large at March 29, 2020 10:09 AM (w7KSn)

230 Speaking of writing, though not of books...

Is anyone watching "Devs" on Hule or FX?

Excellently written series. Almost novelistic -wehat with the casual foreshadowing and excellent play of ideas in both dialogue, characters, and the action.

All within the context of a slow burning thriller.

Extremely well done.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 29, 2020 10:09 AM (z0XD8)

231 Anyone else struggling with the stuff they crank out for kids' reading these days? I know the whole "just be thankful they're reading" mantra. But, a lot of it is too snarky by half or PC preacht

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:10 AM (ONvIw)

232 213
We went to Monticello this September and the SJW tour ruined it.



We did get plenty of architectural pics for ideas and the grounds are cool, being on top of a mountain.



My wife and I looked at each other more than a few times wanting to
get out of the house tour, but we ended up just ignoring the girl giving
the tour who was probably one of the perps tearing statues down.
Disappointing. But we got what we needed. Beautiful home. Back in the
day, that must have been quite a sight for visitors.



Madison's Montpelier was a much more enjoyable tour.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 10:01 AM (B95HO)

Well that's a bummer, Nurse Ratched and I were talking about taking a trip to Monticello while we're at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:10 AM (6ofTb)

233 There's a really nice hardback edition of Farmer Giles, profusely illustrated by Pauline Baynes (I grew up with the basic paperback version, which had a few pictures).

It would make a nice gift.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 10:11 AM (Dc2NZ)

234 Keef is on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. With a cig and Lute slung low.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 10:11 AM (RuIsu)

235 "Treasure Island" is a lot of fun, WG. But when you are done, "Kidnapped" is better.

Posted by: Slow Learner at March 29, 2020 10:11 AM (hafXH)

236 Good morning all, Thanks OM, as ever.

Not much reading this week, just an occasional Conan. Mostly editing and trying to prep my own work, so i can send it off to a publisher sometime. Meanwhile, struggling mightily with MS Word and citations and references. Drowning in their self-help tutorials, none of which sink in. there seems to be some magic i am missing (I am NOT an MS fan, only using it as that's the standard. i drafted everything in Open Office).

Ya'll hang in there.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 29, 2020 10:12 AM (iUjXP)

237 Grandpa, what did you do in the Great Hunkering Down?

Why, Little Boo, I was a hero.
I did jack shit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 29, 2020 10:13 AM (9TdxA)

238 With that established, I tell you this: Hie thee hence immediately and read our own Christopher R. Taylor's Life Unworthy. It is an excellent story well written.

I second this, including the part about despising the genre. Life Unworthy is very good.
Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 10:04 AM (OX9vb)

I've been toying with reading this, but as my husband is forever watching and reading Holocaust themed books and shows, I find it hard to mix the camps with werewolf lit. I may read it anyway, as I always enjoy the author's more philosophical posts

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:14 AM (ONvIw)

239 213
We went to Monticello this September and the SJW tour ruined it.


Sounds awful. Is there anything they haven't ruined?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 10:14 AM (H8QX8)

240 Prefacing this book review by saying that I despise all vampire, werewolf, zombie and assorted other monster genres.



Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:00 AM (ulOTf)

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LOL, same here. Didn't keep me from writing one, and I hear people like it as well.

I think the key is how much you use the supernatural element as a crutch. It's like the sidebar Ace posted during the week about how so many current writers can't write actual dialog because they have no idea how people talk.

Same thing. I think a lot of monster genre writers don't have a lot of life outside their fantasy world, and that makes it flat.

My wife and I are watching Cowboy Bebop on Hulu and it's funny how awful the shows they advertise are. They look downright bad - stupid premise, bad acting. These are clearly people who live sheltered lives and can't write anything else.

You write what you know. Even if you don't know an actual vampire (or werewolf), you can know real people and real events.

Over 29 years of reading books and living life, I've noticed that the best authors - the ones that feel real - use life events to spur their work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)

241 >>With that established, I tell you this: Hie thee hence immediately and read our own Christopher R. Taylor's Life Unworthy. It is an excellent story well written.


Yes!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 10:14 AM (bDqIh)

242 I cannot recommend this book too highly.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:00 AM (ulOTf)

Life Unworthy is a really great book

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 10:15 AM (G546f)

243 Nurse Ratched and I were talking about taking a trip to Monticello while we're at the NoVaMoMe.


Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:10 AM (6ofTb)
If you can tune out some of the OMG! Those Poor Slaves! rhetoric, it's a great place to visit. Go on a sunny day if you can; the view from the top of the hill is magnificent.

Posted by: right wing yankee at March 29, 2020 10:15 AM (zlzYb)

244 195
A friend of mine is reading Waugh's Sword of Honour trilogy. He says it is alternately hilarious and heart-breaking. Waugh's satire was subtle, which made it both funnier but also more potent.

I much prefer it to Catch-22 or MASH, because the things Waugh writes about may actually have happened, though in a slightly different form.

He piles minor absurdities on top of each other, creating a mountain of foolishness, but each step is all too plausible.

And unlike Heller or Hooker, he never forgets the seriousness of the war itself. When you least expect it, he'll drop a line to the effect of:

"At that very moment, unbeknownst to Guy, another train packed with doomed souls rolled mournfully into the night."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)
______

In the introduction to Arthur Marder's Operation Menace, there's a part saying "Apologies to Evelyn Waugh. We all thought you were making it up. Turns out to have been accurate." (Not a direct quote, paraphrase from memory.)

You've got a point. It is all too common for people to use folly-of-war arguments based on the inevitable SNAFUs as entailing the idea that resisting the enemy is itself folly. Non sequitur.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:16 AM (ZbwAu)

245 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)

And I did like your vampire work. It was devoid of the modern vampire chicklit feel that so many are fond of, and replaced it with action, action, action.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:16 AM (ONvIw)

246 Well inspired by Patti Smith and my youth in East Lansing, I looked up the old student co-op and it still exists and sadly, pretty much in its old form. I even spotted some of the old furniture.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:19 AM (ONvIw)

247 I'm going to put the clothes in the dryer, make another cup of tea and see if I can at the least sketch out one scene.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 29, 2020 10:20 AM (2JVJo)

248 Late to the game. Did anyone already do

"I saw The Effascinable Passivity of Phancie open for The Incredible String Band at the Springfield Faire in '69, right before they played Woodstock."

Posted by: mindful webworker
Congregation and Contagion
at March 29, 2020 10:22 AM (Sr48m)

249 I read Farmer Gil of Ham as a kid.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 29, 2020 10:22 AM (LxTcq)

250 You've got a point. It is all too common for people
to use folly-of-war arguments based on the inevitable SNAFUs as
entailing the idea that resisting the enemy is itself folly. Non
sequitur.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:16 AM (ZbwAu)

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The other element that my friend has noticed is how the work becomes more somber as it progresses.

Men at Arms (the first book) is very light-hearted and silly. It's about the Phoney War and training, etc.

But as the series progresses, the tone changes. I pointed out to him that the US version of WW II was that we sat it out, then got in, ramped up production and won.

But the British were in a lot longer and suffered a lot more. Even the upper-crust "Smart Set" that Waugh wrote about was feeling the pinch. Yes, there were casualties, but not as bad as 1918. Still, everything was cramped and short, even booze was hard to find.

And what was it for? Did Poland get saved? Waugh doesn't go for Heller's "War is just a racket" cop-out because it's not. There was a real difference in your life depending on whether you lived under Nazi occupation or not.

But what about those abandoned to the Soviets? Didn't that undercut the whole point of the war?

The most important work of fiction in my life was Lord of the Rings. Sword of Honour is a close second.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:24 AM (cfSRQ)

251 Here's another vote for Patrick McManus. I remember reading one of his Field & Stream pieces in the high school library and achieving my highest stage of laughter -- shaking soundlessly and producing tears. Then I looked up over the top of the magazine and saw two of the girls looking at me and grinning.

Damn -- they do notice me!

Wish I could remember the piece. I think it was about him blackmailing a TV station friend to put on a hunter advice show. With Retch Sweeney. I'd love to find that one again.

***

The map is missing Xanth.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 29, 2020 10:25 AM (u/nim)

252 "One story is that if all of the white men left, everyone else would make a near utopia of earth."



*Looks back at the history of human civilization*

If it weren't for white men, we would all still be wearing skins for clothes and grunting for language.

I actually have a theory about why this is, let's call it Sharkman's Anthropological Theory of Civilizatiion. I postulate that complex science/logic based civilization arose first in Europe among white folk because the weather is so bad that you will die trying to live outside year round. So we had to invent proper housing, heating systems, food storage, sanitation systems, etc.

I may be full of shit on this, but I compare Europe to Africa, where the natives can live out in the bush year round without freezing to death, for the most part.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:25 AM (ulOTf)

253 I've been on a mystery jag. I have reread several of the Judge Dee mysteries by Robert Van Gulik. He was a Dutch historian who lived in China for many years. These are classics of the historical mystery genre.

Also took a crack at the Midnight, Texas series by Charlaine Harris. Not bad.

Posted by: Dr Alice at March 29, 2020 10:25 AM (oW/8k)

254 BOOK NERDS!!

Posted by: Ogre at March 29, 2020 10:27 AM (KnJdm)

255 Zoltan, sometimes a review gets me to order a book right away. The Last Marine is now on my kindle .
Thanks!

Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2020 10:29 AM (p/KmR)

256 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

257 Print, is dead.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

258 Did Mao like little boys because I'm thinking he liked little boys.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (2DOZq)

259 Now everyone is going to know it was me.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

260 Did Mao like little boys because I'm thinking he liked little boys.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (2DOZq)


Tighter holes.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:32 AM (Zz0t1)

261 257 Print, is dead.
Posted by: Egon Spengler at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

I love print, especially for the kids, but I still buy hardcopies, although many are used. I prefer page turning to scrolling down.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

262 Sad to hear about the Monticello tour going all SJW. But not surprising in the least. The UVa Alumni magazine has become a guilt fest.

Back when I was a the U, I joined the Jefferson Society. One of the perks was a tour - at dawn - of Monticello on Founder's Day (Mr Jefferson's birthday.) We got to see stuff that wasn't included in normal tours, like the upstairs, and the indoor privy off the bedroom. One guy almost got us kicked out by playing the harpsichord. (BTW, none of the chairs was uncomfortable.)

But that's probably gone now. In the 90s the effing administration evicted the society from Jefferson Hall (temporarily, at least) for sexism and underage drinking. I was talking to a Richmond reporter, explaining what a total pile of crap the case was - the usual officialdom pack of lies and distortions, swallowed whole by the effing journos. He tried to quiz me to see what I knew about it; then gave up when I killed every question. I did grant that the underage drinking was true. He said 'Yes,m but no one cares about that."

No, that was the most important thing. It was the one actual charge they could make stick, and which was illegal. After that, when they returned, they no longer could have a keg at the meetings. (Except the 175 year reunion in 2000. No university administration will ever do anything to piss off the alums. That could cost money.)

During that time, we had a letter writing campaign to support the Society. But I was unable to send one. Every time I tried, it turned into "You fucking Stalinist bastards." One of my friends said his wife had the same problem, so he ended up writing two, one for each of them.

Sorry to rant. This still pisses me off. Another friend from those days has pointed out that, to a university administrator, nothing counts as "a tradition" unless they can raise cash off it. The Hell with all of them. They're as vile as jouirnolists.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (ZbwAu)

263 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (NWiLs)

264 Posted by: Sharkman at March 29, 2020 10:25 AM (ulOTf)

Shorter version: Necessity is the Mother of invention.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (2DOZq)

265 I knew a chick that could accurately tell strangers what star sign they were just from meeting them and assessing their personality. She was weird.

Posted by: ... at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (uEbPt)

266 Print, is dead.


******

Are you referring to the art form formerly known as 'prints'?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (m45I2)

267 261 257 Print, is dead.
Posted by: Egon Spengler at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

I love print, especially for the kids, but I still buy hardcopies, although many are used. I prefer page turning to scrolling down.
Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

Reading long documents on the computer screen gives me a massive fucking headache, so I still print stuff out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

268 I'm here!
I think the book thread is my favorite. So many ideas. You are really an eclectic bunch.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (QzF6i)

269 I prefer page turning to scrolling down.
Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:32 AM (ONvIw)


I agree.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

270 INSOM!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

271 265 I knew a chick that could accurately tell strangers what star sign they were just from meeting them and assessing their personality. She was weird.
Posted by: ... at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (uEbPt)

A WITCH!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

272 I still print stuff out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)


This.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

273 268 I'm here!
I think the book thread is my favorite. So many ideas. You are really an eclectic bunch.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (QzF6i)

You take that back!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:35 AM (NWiLs)

274 So I recently heard a defense of Astrology that might, could, sort of, perhaps have an actual basis in science. That in ancient times (like when Biden was a young man) the month you were born in determined what food your mom ate while pregnant and the nutrients, amount, preparation & etc. could have a common impact on everyone's personality who was born during that time. I don't really buy it but it's better than believing magic planet rays determine you should play the lottery this month.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 09:20 AM (fg6n

I have entertained similar thoughts. Diet may well enter into it, but simply what season of the year it is, as children go through the various stages of childhood development could have an effect.

In a nutshell: astrology arose from centuries of keen observation of behavior traits linked to birthdate, and then got monetized by charlatans who posited the stars as causative agents, rather than simple seasonal markers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 10:35 AM (miJU3)

275 Reading long documents on the computer screen gives me a massive fucking headache, so I still print stuff out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

Me too and that blue light filter thing actually makes it worse for me.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:36 AM (ONvIw)

276 A WITCH!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)


Is it just me that finds the strategy of throwing a woman in the lake to determine her witchness a GENIUS plan?

I mean, if she drowns, not a witch. Swims, kill her. She's a witch.

Doing what they can to keep the bitches in place.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

277 Reading long documents on the computer screen gives me a massive fucking headache, so I still print stuff out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

Quickly looking back at previous pages is why I print it out.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:37 AM (2DOZq)

278 There's a historic plantation near New Orleans -- Laura Plantation -- which uses a clever dodge around the "all slavery, all the time" narrative so many other antebellum historic sites have resorted to. Instead, their tour focuses on the Strong Empowered Creole Women who ran the place, and how oppressed they were by the Patriarchy of Anglophone American society. Which is utter bullshit, by the way, since Louisiana's law code didn't change when it became a state. But at least it provides some variety.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (DKCFT)

279 Lest anyone forget:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

280 253 I've been on a mystery jag. I have reread several of the Judge Dee mysteries by Robert Van Gulik. He was a Dutch historian who lived in China for many years. These are classics of the historical mystery genre.

Also took a crack at the Midnight, Texas series by Charlaine Harris. Not bad.
Posted by: Dr Alice at March 29, 2020 10:25 AM (oW/8k)
______

I love Judge Dee. The books, generally, can be classed in 3 groups:

1. Celebrated Cases Solved by Judge Dee. (Dee Goong An). This is a straight translation, not a story by Van Gulik.

2. Those with titles of the form The Chinese X Murder. These are written by Van Gulik, but are almost entirely built up from actual old Chinese detective stories.

3. The rest. There is a clear loss of quality, although not always so. Most still have good parts.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (ZbwAu)

281 Thanks for the signal boost OM! And thank you for the weekly book thread. I work most Sundays, but I always make time to go back and read through it.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (jDjQx)

282 OK, you guys sold me. I just downloaded the Kindle version of Life Unworthy. I'm a fan of the Monster Hunter series, so I'll probably enjoy a story about a Nazi-eating werewolf.

Posted by: PabloD at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (skjjf)

283 The article on Jefferson's book is crap. There is considerable debate over how much Locke actually influenced the founding fathers, with very little evidence that Jefferson himself ever even read Locke's treatises on government (the "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" being about the only reference anywhere in his writings). The supposed influence of Locke is likely a bit of 19th century revisionism.

Locke was well respected for his writings on epistomology, not necessarily on government. People forget he wrote about aspects of philosophy other than political theory. Jefferson was asked to give the three most important writers in different areas, and he classified Locke as an epistomologist, not a political theorist.

The guy people should be reading is Algernon Sidney, a friend and contemporary of Locke but a bit more traditionalist. Well well known and respected in Colonial America, and quoted a lot by the founding fathers. He was remembered with honor by both British and Americans into the early 20th century, but has largely been forgotten; in part, I suspect, because he doesn't fit so neatly into the "American Revolution as a straight-up product of the Enlightenment" paradigm that dominates a lot of thinking today (he also highlights the problem that the Enlightenment wasn't the clean break from the past that it is often portrayed as).

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (nBq51)

284 Quickly looking back at previous pages is why I print it out.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:37 AM (2DOZq)

and 49% or 1432/27583 is no substitute for a page number and book mark

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:39 AM (ONvIw)

285 The local library is closed, the entire library system of five towns. I understand to one degree; its impossible to disinfect books at any reasonable rate of speed (not that this was somehow an issue the last 250 previous infections we faced).

So I went into their online catalog for some ebooks, figuring if I can't get real books at least I can get some things to read. They have a fair number, including copies of books that they no longer carry in print for... reasons which elude me.

So I try to "check some out" and the books are on hold. Ebooks. As if they have only one physical copy which has to be handed around physically. An electronic file.

Which makes me wonder what imbecile came up with the idea that libraries should only be able to get single DRM copies of books. What knuckle-dragging retard at publishing thought this was a reasonable concept? Why on earth can libraries not get a version of an ebook that can be shared to multiple people?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:39 AM (KZzsI)

286 I think the book thread is my favorite. So many ideas. You are really an eclectic bunch.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (QzF6i)

You take that back!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:35 AM (NWiLs)


Ease up, she just means we have photographic memories.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 10:40 AM (t+qrx)

287 Good morning Hordemates.
I have to say, the pants of the last couple of weeks has caused me to recheck my manhood. Having done so I find my Levi's provide a kind of comfort I hadn't realized before. Manhood secured. And for this I am grateful.

Now after coffee I will be cleaning the guns that didn't get lost in the canoe accident, followed by knife sharpening, and then some W.E.B.Griffin reading while drinking whiskey and smoking a cigar.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (axyOa)

288 I have a good friend, Tom Pado. He wrote an autobiography which is on Amazon now, fascinating! Lots of personal stuff, lots of technical stuff (underwater exploration, inventions, patents). He went from growing up poor just down the street from the steel mills in Gary, Indiana, to living large in Australia and traveling the world to sell his invention. Name of the book, Damn the Pressure, Full Speed Ahead.

Posted by: AgathaPagatha at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (xDMjB)

289 Eeyore, so glad to see another Judge Dee fan! The short stories are good too - I think there are one or two collections.

Posted by: Dr Alice at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (oW/8k)

290 Ease up, she just means we have photographic memories.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 10:40 AM (t+qrx)


And cake!

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (Zz0t1)

291 275 Reading long documents on the computer screen gives me a massive fucking headache, so I still print stuff out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

Me too and that blue light filter thing actually makes it worse for me.
Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:36 AM (ONvIw)
_____

I have the same problem. By the time this thread ends, I will have one (coming on now). That happens always.

But I still show up.

I do, however, stick mostly to print. The Lewis sale is nice to see - for others. I believe I now own everything he published under his name, in paper. (Not Spirits in Bondage - didn't care for it.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:42 AM (ZbwAu)

292 Good morning Hordemates.
I have to say, the pants of the last couple of weeks has caused me to recheck my manhood. Having done so I find my Levi's provide a kind of comfort I hadn't realized before. Manhood secured. And for this I am grateful.

Now after coffee I will be cleaning the guns that didn't get lost in the canoe accident, followed by knife sharpening, and then some W.E.B.Griffin reading while drinking whiskey and smoking a cigar.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (axyOa)


Remember, Levi Strauss wants to take your guns.

Cleaning guns in Levi's is a slap to the face.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

293 Kindle editions of CS Lewis books are $1.99 today.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 29, 2020 10:43 AM (/+bwe)

294 Ease up, she just means we have photographic memories.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 10:40 AM (t+qrx)

And cake!
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:41 AM (Zz0t1)


But then she would've said we were an enteric bunch.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 10:43 AM (t+qrx)

295 So I try to "check some out" and the books are on
hold. Ebooks. As if they have only one physical copy which has to be
handed around physically. An electronic file.



Which makes me wonder what imbecile came up with the idea that
libraries should only be able to get single DRM copies of books. What
knuckle-dragging retard at publishing thought this was a reasonable
concept? Why on earth can libraries not get a version of an ebook that
can be shared to multiple people?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:39 AM (KZzsI)

Yeah, that drives me nuts!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:43 AM (6ofTb)

296 285 - somebody on Twitter told me that libraries can get hard copy books for steep discounts, whereas the ebooks are not discounted and cost them a lot more. I have not verified this but that could be the reason. I too have had difficulty in finding some ebooks available on my library website.

Posted by: Dr Alice at March 29, 2020 10:44 AM (oW/8k)

297 I think next week's word of the week should be "eclectic".

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:44 AM (QzF6i)

298 Hi, sharon! You arrived while we are still discussing books!

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 10:44 AM (OX9vb)

299 277 Reading long documents on the computer screen gives me a massive fucking headache, so I still print stuff out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)

Quickly looking back at previous pages is why I print it out.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:37 AM (2DOZq)

That. And highlighting and notes. Especially when reviewing documents in a professional capacity.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:44 AM (NWiLs)

300 @Oilfield_Rando

"Old expression. The proof of the, uh, you know, is gonna be in eating the pudding, you know. What's it gonna look like?"

Video: https://tinyurl.com/rlbzfyy

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

301 Why on earth can libraries not get a version of an ebook that can be shared to multiple people?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:39 AM (KZzsI)


It's a token ring mentality.

Old school network people will get this.

Everyone else will just think it's gay.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:45 AM (Zz0t1)

302 Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (DKCFT)

The Myrtles Plantation in St Francisville avoids the everything is about slavery by being known as the haunted plantation.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (2DOZq)

303 I finished The Peenemunde Raid by Martin Middlebrook about the August 17-18, 1943 Bomber Command raid on the Nazi's rocket research/production facilities at Peenemunde. (This is not rocket science.) Eisenhower suggested that this raid prevented us from losing the war on the theory that if the Nazis had had operational V-1 a few weeks earlier, they could have bombarded the English ports and prevented Overlord. Ike was probably exaggerating in that the raid neither targeted nor seriously disrupted the V-1 program (although they were tested and produced very near by) but rather they targeted V-2 research and production. Nevertheless, the raid probably did delay the V-2 becoming operational by a few months which saved thousands of Allied lives (mostly civilian).

The raid is noteworthy in addition to its effects for several reasons. It was an early example of the Germans' use of wild boar and tame boar night fighter tactics which freed the inceptors from being tied to ground control radar. It was the first, although limited, use of Schrage Musik upward-firing night fighter armament, a weapon that would create havoc among British bombes. The British continued their use of "window" antiradar defense that had proved so successful at Hamburg a few weeks earlier but, contrary to standard doctrine, flew much lower and in full moonlight with master bombers accepting the increased risk in exchange for increased accuracy against a crucial target.

Middlebrook is one of my favorite historical writers. (I won't call him a historian because I'm quite sure that this farmer turned author isn't welcome at the we-are-serious-historians meetings. (You know farmers; stick a seed in the ground and it grows.) He visited the Somme battlefield and was so moved he wrote his first book, The First Day On the Somme, and the rest, as they say, is history.

He is quite objective and fair. The German experience is related as well as the British and he fully fully describes the horror of being under the bombs as, in this case, Wernher von Braun was. Middlebrook is good at describing the full range of the experience if battle, the heroism, the cowardice, the horror, the genius, the stupidity etc.

Other Middlebrook books I recommend include Battleship (about the Japanese sinking the Prince of Wales and the Repulse), The Nuremburg Raid (the Brits lose 96 heavy bombers), and The Berlin Raids (Bomber Harris tries and fails to win the war without invading the continent).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)

304 Yeah, that drives me nuts!
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:43 AM (6ofTb)

Arrrr, that it do, lass, that it do.

Posted by: Pirate with a ship's wheel on the front of his pants at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (NWiLs)

305 "could have a common impact on everyone's personality who was born during
that time. I don't really buy it but it's better than believing magic
planet rays determine you should play the lottery this month."

what I learned long ago, was the Zoroastrians (or some such) branched into two groups ... one watched the stars for signs/seasons ... and maybe some indication of special events when significant conjunctions occurred. iirc, this was the "Magi" that knew of the birth of JC, before it happened I presume. So we can look back and see some interesting conjunctions and even some retrograde motion ("the star stood" ... over Bethlehem, I think) ...


The other branch did the evil corrupted side ... astrology, your life is "controlled" by your sign, let me tell you your future. Seems like less free will.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (Cus5s)

306 231. When I started working at the library I was taken aback by the gross titles and subject matter of children's books. So many scatological references, also boogers, behinds, etc. I'd never get those for any child. But there is so much childrens lit that is genius.

Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (y+Ufa)

307 298
Hi, sharon! You arrived while we are still discussing books!



Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 10:44 AM (OX9vb)

++++++++Although had to start at the beginning to figure out why Alice Cooper was important.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (QzF6i)

308 Good morning to our literate hordelings.

Just began reading Guts and Gunships by Dr. Mark Garrison. He was a gunship pilot during the Vietnam War and this work is his account of his tour.

Hell of a story teller.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:47 AM (Y4EXg)

309 Why on earth can libraries not get a version of an ebook that can be shared to multiple people?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:39 AM (KZzsI)

Licensing, just like how many computers you can put Microsoft Word on, or how many people can have access to the scanner at work.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 10:47 AM (OX9vb)

310
Yeah, that drives me nuts!
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:43 AM (6ofTb)

What's worse is how the e-copy vanishes the second your borrowing period is over. I do not use the library e-books for that reason alone.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

311 Ease up, she just means we have photographic memories.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 29, 2020 10:40 AM (t+qrx)

Oh. Carry on, then.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:47 AM (NWiLs)

312 283

Locke was well respected for his writings on epistomology, not necessarily on government. People forget he wrote about aspects of philosophy other than political theory. Jefferson was asked to give the three most important writers in different areas, and he classified Locke as an epistomologist, not a political theorist.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 29, 2020 10:38 AM (nBq51)
________

The trouble with that (and I don't disagree on Locke's influence) is that his epistemology doesn't work. At best, it's full of holes and loose ends. That's what led both Berkeley and Hume to come up with their systems. And note, BTW, I came to this conclusion at Mr Jefferson's University. That wasn't because of hostile professors; all but two of who were of the Empiricist tradition.

I go further than that: go back to Aristotle and Aquinas.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:48 AM (ZbwAu)

313 306 231. When I started working at the library I was taken aback by the gross titles and subject matter of children's books. So many scatological references, also boogers, behinds, etc. I'd never get those for any child. But there is so much childrens lit that is genius.
Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (y+Ufa)

I've had an idea for a children's picture book kicking around in my head for years but haven't had the guts to write it yet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:49 AM (NWiLs)

314 Late to the thread but that picture of the woman with Finnegan's Wake is photoshopped. Nobody has ever made it that far into that book.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 29, 2020 10:49 AM (aS1PU)

315 Continuing my ''escapism only" reading journey. Will finish Sabrina Chase's "'Sequoyah'' trilogy today. Another fun read as was her ''Argonauts of Space" trilogy that I mentioned last week. I'll miss the world and the characters she created when I'm done. What to read next? Hm, hm, hm...

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 10:49 AM (gLRfa)

316 OK, you guys sold me. I just downloaded the Kindle version of Life Unworthy.

-
I quite enjoyed it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

317 This week I've done a fair amount of re-reading in my old science fiction collection -- some Poul Anderson short stories and an anthology called "Beyond Flesh" edited by Gardner Dozois.

Anderson deserves a revival. Damn, that man was a good writer, and his stuff only got better as he got older. His late work is some of the best SF and fantasy ever written. But he's been stuffed down the memory hole so completely that the usual suspects don't even bother to include him on their lists of Things Which Are Problematic.

The Dozois anthology is all good stories, but it dates from the early Nineties and it shows. The Scary Christians! theme is there, fortissimo. Apparently every SF writer who didn't vote for Reagan decided that the US was doomed to a fundamentalist Christian dystopia future.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (DKCFT)

318 I borrow ebooks from my library all the time. They have a list of newly acquired ones by date so as soon as they get them, I can reserve a copy. When it's available, they email me and I can download. You can only keep for 2 weeks but if you don;t finish, you can rereserve and when it arrives, it will have your bookmark.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (QzF6i)

319 306 231. When I started working at the library I was taken aback by the gross titles and subject matter of children's books. So many scatological references, also boogers, behinds, etc. I'd never get those for any child. But there is so much childrens lit that is genius.
Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (y+Ufa)

Yes there is, but the crappy stuff is pushed hard. That's why I ordered some vintage anthologies.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (ONvIw)

320 Remember, Levi Strauss wants to take your guns.

Cleaning guns in Levi's is a slap to the face.
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)


Sponge,
I'm old enough to remember sitting around the campfire and discovering the Levis "crotch rivet" the hard way. My dad thought that was very funny. A right of passage on my first fishing trip.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (axyOa)

321 I've had an idea for a children's picture book kicking around in my head for years but haven't had the guts to write it yet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:49 AM (NWiLs)


Remember, new rules state it must turn all kids gay or trannies.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:51 AM (Zz0t1)

322 321 I've had an idea for a children's picture book kicking around in my head for years but haven't had the guts to write it yet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:49 AM (NWiLs)

Remember, new rules state it must turn all kids gay or trannies.
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:51 AM (Zz0t1)

Good thing I've never been much for rules.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:51 AM (NWiLs)

323 I very much appreciate the kind words for Life Unworthy, it am very fond of that book and how it turned out. It was a blast to write and research for, although I fear it marked me on some kind of sinister figure FBI list for all the reference material I went through.

There were some good Sackett books and obviously they meant a lot to the author. But I much prefer his stand alone novels.

Sackett Brand was a bit of a problem for L'Amour as an author because it crashed two beloved, but conflicting concepts that he wrote about: the rugged individual who needs no one and finds his way by force of will, character, and skill... and the family that always sticks together and helps each other out through any adversity.

Those two concepts just do not blend, so the book feels oddly uneven and conflicted to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:51 AM (KZzsI)

324 It's funny how photos of Monticello and Mt.Vernon make the rooms look much bigger than they actually are.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (gLRfa)

325 Well, Thomas Jefferson did have a copy of Cesare Beccarias On Crimes and Punishment, which is supposed to be one of the greatest book on the reform and understanding of the reason for people to submit to governance.

I see that he read it in the original Italian too.

Some historian once pointed out, how can one do anything with Jefferson, when he appears to have done everything already? Millionaire Playboy Philanthropist, with interests from anthropology and archeology through farming, economics and politics? He sounds like Doc Savage.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (6rS3m)

326 285 Christopher R TaylorWhich makes me wonder what imbecile came up with the idea that libraries should only be able to get single DRM copies of books.

Precisely the knuckle-dragging retards in legacy publishing that just want ebooks to go AWAY! They are terrified that people will read the ebooks, then not buy the (very expensive) paper books. They only understand the market for paper books, how to tweak and manipulate it. Then the scampering mammals of indie publishing, frolicking in the electronic undergrowth, start gnawing on their profits and they can't figure out why they aren't able to take over the same way.

The good news is the indies (like me) are finding ways to get in the library catalogs with much more rational pricing schemes. (The legacy publisher scheme that really makes me mad is the "25 reads and then you have to buy a new copy" which is INSANE, like electrons wear out or something.) Librarians want to get books to readers and they have very fixed budgets to do so. All these extortionate library costs the legacy publishers come up with do is push librarians to try indie (cheaper, simpler, and just as good). So I'm following Bonaparte's dictum to "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" and giggling from the sidelines....

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (exg7Q)

327 So many scatological references, also boogers, behinds, etc. I'd never get those for any child. But there is so much childrens lit that is genius.
Posted by: kallisto

----

"Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

328 Sponge,
I'm old enough to remember sitting around the campfire and discovering the Levis "crotch rivet" the hard way. My dad thought that was very funny. A right of passage on my first fishing trip.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 10:50 AM (axyOa)


A bit before my time, but I remember the stories.

I'm a Duluth Trading Ballroom Jeans guy now.

No crotch rivet, but you can squat without blowing the seams.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Zz0t1)

329 Shorter version: Necessity is the Mother of invention.

-
Whaaa? We're all Zappa all the time now?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (+y/Ru)

330
"Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)


Isn't that a song by REM?

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

331 "Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

Hit REM song back in the day.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (NWiLs)

332 329 Shorter version: Necessity is the Mother of invention.

-
Whaaa? We're all Zappa all the time now?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (+y/Ru)

In the future. For fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:54 AM (NWiLs)

333 What's worse is how the e-copy vanishes the second
your borrowing period is over. I do not use the library e-books for that
reason alone.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

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I've never tried to check out an e-book.

I do read books on the i-pad, but they're the OOP stuff from the Hathi trust or whatever.

If I were hard-up for reading material, I'd probably go that route. There so much old stuff that I really should read and it's just sitting there, free.

Of course I've got books around the house also stockpiled, so not as much of an issue.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (cfSRQ)

334 303 I finished The Peenemunde Raid by Martin Middlebrook about the August 17-18, 1943 Bomber Command raid on the Nazi's rocket research/production facilities at Peenemunde. (This is not rocket science.) Eisenhower suggested that this raid prevented us from losing the war on the theory that if the Nazis had had operational V-1 a few weeks earlier, they could have bombarded the English ports and prevented Overlord. Ike was probably exaggerating in that the raid neither targeted nor seriously disrupted the V-1 program (although they were tested and produced very near by) but rather they targeted V-2 research and production. Nevertheless, the raid probably did delay the V-2 becoming operational by a few months which saved thousands of Allied lives (mostly civilian).
...
Other Middlebrook books I recommend include Battleship (about the Japanese sinking the Prince of Wales and the Repulse), The Nuremburg Raid (the Brits lose 96 heavy bombers), and The Berlin Raids (Bomber Harris tries and fails to win the war without invading the continent).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)
________

D K Brown wrote in a few places that one effect of the bombings which is often overlooked is the disruption of the workers' nights. That led to slower and sloppier work. But it won't show as material damage.

Haven't seen that book on PoW; will have to look it up.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (ZbwAu)

335 Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

Beat me to it, you sedentary invertebrate bastard!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

336 "Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

Appalling. I have also read some reviews of the Thomas the Tank Engine series that complain hideously about the need to be "really useful". I guess they need a stoner engine that loafs on the sidings

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (ONvIw)

337 Good thing I've never been much for rules.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:51 AM (NWiLs)


Good.

Carry on.

As you've told me. No better time than the present.

GetRdone.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (Zz0t1)

338 "One story is that if all of the white men left, everyone else would make a near utopia of earth."

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Ahhh, the fantasy genre.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (+y/Ru)

339 Beat me to it, you sedentary invertebrate bastard!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (NWiLs)


WINNING!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:56 AM (Zz0t1)

340 I'm following Bonaparte's dictum to "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" and giggling from the sidelines....

Publishers are a perfect example of a business that is so set in its ways and determined that not only are their opponents wrong but that doing the opposite of what is smart will somehow win in the end.

However, they should love ebooks because they are extremely cheap to produce and they are getting away with charging as much for an ebook as a paperback novel. The profit margins are huge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 10:56 AM (KZzsI)

341 what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)

Golf. No idea what his real name is though....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at March 29, 2020 10:56 AM (90+00)

342 grammie,

Mrs. JTB has a suggestion for your reading. Try the Amelia Peabody Egyptology mysteries by Elizabeth Peters. Set in the early 1900s, lots of adventure, lots of humor, and well written. We read the whole series as it came out and loved it. The first in the series is "Crocodile on the Sandbank" introduces the characters and sets the tone. Chances are any used book store or library will have it.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 10:56 AM (7EjX1)

343 I'm reading Orlando Furioso, Paradoxes of Defense, and Python Crash Course.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 29, 2020 10:57 AM (SgjGX)

344 341 what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)

Golf. No idea what his real name is though....
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at March 29, 2020 10:56 AM (90+00)

Puddin Tame

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:57 AM (NWiLs)

345 Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Thanxs for the tip on The Pennemunde Raid.
I'll give it a go next.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 10:57 AM (axyOa)

346 Leaving the thread early. Going to go . . .
Read a book.

Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2020 10:58 AM (p/KmR)

347 My Livestream of Mass is blaring the air raid/civil defense warning sound.

Weird. And fascinating at the same time.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:58 AM (Y4EXg)

348 347 My Livestream of Mass is blaring the air raid/civil defense warning sound.

Weird. And fascinating at the same time.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:58 AM (Y4EXg)

PUT OUT THAT LIGHT!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

349 what's Alice Cooper's name and what sport is he good at?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (gd9RK)


He was discovered by Frank Zappa.

Frank saw his show at an LA club. Cooper did his blood and gore antics on stage and everyone left repulsed.

Zappa said "If you can clear a room that fast, you MUST be on my record label."

And the rest is history.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)

350 The Dozois anthology is all good stories

I loved those, but by sometime in the 90's, I noticed all this SJW crap creeping in without knowing what SJW even was. Had to take them off my Christmas wish list.

Posted by: t-bird at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (IMdOQ)

351 The trouble with that (and I don't disagree on Locke's influence) is that his epistemology doesn't work. At best, it's full of holes and loose ends. That's what led both Berkeley and Hume to come up with their systems. And note, BTW, I came to this conclusion at Mr Jefferson's University. That wasn't because of hostile professors; all but two of who were of the Empiricist tradition.

I haven't studied beyond pop-culture/sophomore Phil101 depth, but that was my impression as well.

In addition to Algernon Sidney, the other "lost" influence on the founding fathers that seems to be completely ignored is Vindicaea Contra Tyrannos. Not to hard to see why it is ignored - it is a 16th century Huguenot text written during the Wars of Religion. It also happens to be the first development of "Contract Theory," predating both Locke and Hobbes a couple generations. In other words, THE foundational concept of the US system - the idea that rulers are legitimate only as long as they fulfill their duty to the ruled - was developed by an anonymous French Calvinist using the Bible as a source. Kinda puts a crimp in the usual "enlightenment" narrative.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (nBq51)

352 Vince Fournier

Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (y+Ufa)

353 oh JTB, tell missus I love that series!

Grammie, I think the first book might be Crocodile on the Sandbank

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 10:59 AM (G546f)

354 My Livestream of Mass is blaring the air raid/civil defense warning sound.

Weird. And fascinating at the same time.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:58 AM (Y4EXg)


Reenactment of "The Diary of Anne Frank?"

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

355 347: I remember the civil defense siren blaring every Saturday at 1PM. I don't miss it.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (ONvIw)

356 Appalling. I have also read some reviews of the
Thomas the Tank Engine series that complain hideously about the need to
be "really useful". I guess they need a stoner engine that loafs on the
sidings

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (ONvIw)

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That's funny!

The engineer with a goofy smile and bag of munchies feeding weed into the furnace and deeply breathing in the resulting smoke.

The fire never gets hot enough to produce much steam, but hey man, mellow out.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)

357 Thomas Jefferson's Library featuring The Un-Comfy Chair.

If I am ever fortunate enough to have a dedicated library room, it will have a chair like that to suggest that visitors are welcome but not expected to stay for very long.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (qc+VF)

358 Alice Cooper is important because when you are crazy about girls but at 14 the art/war of seduction learned from TV are useless in real time.
Bullies, shitty no soul teachers. Bad grades. Bad at sports. Snarking at boys loops us back to Bullies.

If you bang your head might as well have some music for the occasion.

So Miss Sharon...there you go.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (1oqSI)

359 Can anyone recommend novels similar to Michael Connelly's Harry Bosch series?

I stopped reading when he went WOKE and introduced GENERIC STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER as a quasi-replacement to Bosch, so now fuck him.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Reading a Book at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (+dsLj)

360 I prefer Wrangler myself in jeans, they fit and are comfortable. Levis seem deliberately designed to be uncomfortable the first fifty wearings. Plus the stupidity of the ownership.

Regarding writing from home, the key is regularity, lack of distraction, and pattern.
-Pick a specific time when you write, set it aside. Write that time period without anything turned on (no TV, no music, nothing). Treat it as a work period, a set number of hours.
-Turn off your internet on that system, make notes of what you need to research, and check that later.
-Don't write every day, because you'll burn out. Force yourself to take at least one day off a week, to let your brain explore other ideas and wander off various paths you might not have considered
-Make sure you're rested and well-fed before writing. A lot of "writer's block" is just not feeling up to the job.
-Write. Even if its awful or stupid or you feel it was a waste, when you're in that time period... write. Its like practicing throwing a ball as a kid when you want to be a pitcher, no matter how awful you throw, you're still training your body to do it better.
-Remember that when you're not writing you're still a writer. Every author is thinking about what they will write even when not writing, or is absorbing phrases, events, personalities, and life around them to better write about it later. Don't feel guilty when you can't be writing, you aren't cheating, you're studying.
-Keep a schedule, keep on that schedule. Treat it seriously, as if its a job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (KZzsI)

361 but you can squat without blowing the seams.
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM


Is this a reference to GAINZZ! Threads or tinyurl?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (RY7ZM)

362 Oh, yes. Earlier this week I did finish Gaston Leroux's Mystery of the Yellow Room. I found it a bit disappointing. One event in particular was implausible; the villain just didn't have time to change quickly enough not to be recognized in one of his disappearances. It is the choice of both Chesterton and Carr as best locked room story. Actually, there's a clever twist at the end which I liked, but which didn't related to the locked room.

Leroux is better remembered for Phantom of the Opera.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (ZbwAu)

363 Alice Cooper = Vince Furnier. Grew up in (and AFAIK, still lives in) NE Phoenix, he's adopted my old high school (Arcadia) as his pet project, and does benefits there most every spring.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (V2Yro)

364 My Livestream of Mass is blaring the air raid/civil defense warning sound.

Weird. And fascinating at the same time.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:58 AM (Y4EXg)


Did Hawaii's civil defense guy screw up again?

Or...did he get it right this time?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2020 11:03 AM (axyOa)

365 The fire never gets hot enough to produce much steam, but hey man, mellow out.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)

While the series added some "foreign" engines, it blessedly has not tossed aside the need to be useful and take responsibility. The other line that repeatedly shows up in the books is "It's all my fault".

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 11:04 AM (ONvIw)

366 civil defense siren

There are two still standing near me, tho not tested in years.
Dont think many people around here know what these relics of the cold war are.

Posted by: getting the banned back together in surplus CD doughboy helmets at March 29, 2020 11:05 AM (ee9Yd)

367 A. H. Lloyd, in volume 4 of Battles and Leaders, check out Lt. Cushibg's account of the destruction of the C. S. S. Albemarle. It would make a damn good movie.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 29, 2020 11:05 AM (g8Yc+)

368 If you bang your head might as well have some music for the occasion.



So Miss Sharon...there you go.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (1oqSI)

+++++++Understood.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 11:06 AM (QzF6i)

369 Did Hawaii's civil defense guy screw up again?

Or...did he get it right this time?
Posted by: Diogenes

---

If we ever have a real tornado at noon on Wednesday in our area, no one will pay any attention at all to the sirens.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 11:06 AM (Y4EXg)

370 Cushing. Geez.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 29, 2020 11:06 AM (g8Yc+)

371 For any military history nerds, Osprey is making five books a week available for free for the next four weeks.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ul9hgna

Posted by: spindrift at March 29, 2020 11:06 AM (75Q6c)

372 If we ever have a real tornado at noon on Wednesday in our area, no one will pay any attention at all to the sirens.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 11:06 AM (Y4EXg)


This.

And, you asked for it.

https://youtu.be/m6HtoWWpJpg

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

373 Alice Cooper = Vince Furnier. Grew up in (and AFAIK, still lives in) NE Phoenix, he's adopted my old high school (Arcadia) as his pet project, and does benefits there most every spring.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (V2Yro)

Thought he was from Mich.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 11:07 AM (X/Pw5)

374 I go further than that: go back to Aristotle and Aquinas.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:48 AM (ZbwAu)

I agree that the consent of the governed thing was Locke's biggest claim to fame. On the "episemology" side, he was indeed part of the great stream that included Aristotle and Aquinas. So was Newton. Hume was an allergic reaction to Newton on behalf of the idealists, as he makes quite clear with the billiard balls thing, and so too probably was Berkeley.

Posted by: Caliban at March 29, 2020 11:08 AM (QE8X6)

375 Oh, the Left has been after Thomas since before they were after the Confederate statues. He's been a hate figure for the woke-folk for some time now.

Remember it doesn't have to make sense - except in context of "all ideation preceding the current iteration of the neo-Maoists' party line must be excised from cultural memory."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (II2Y0)

376 ''Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

Isn't that a song by REM?
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)''

Damn you. Now I've got an ear worm with that singer's whiny voice ..."Everybody poops...."

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (gLRfa)

377 Damn you. Now I've got an ear worm with that singer's whiny voice ..."Everybody poops...."
Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (gLRfa)


Just doin' my job, ma'am.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

378 I stopped reading when he went WOKE and introduced
GENERIC STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER as a quasi-replacement to Bosch, so now
fuck him.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Reading a Book at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (+dsLj)

So many books are like that nowadays. I'll go looking to see what's free with Prime, and it seems every plot summary starts with a description of the Strong Female Lead Character. Ugh.
The only series I can think of that might be similar to Bosch is the John Sandford Prey series.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 11:10 AM (6ofTb)

379 Day 2 of the East Texas Lockdown: Just got back from a trip to Home Depot, picked up $300 worth of gardening stuff and plantings so I can work in the yard most of the day. (nice sunny spring day here so far!) Home Depot is only allowing 100 people in at a time (voluntarily) but I didn't have to wait in line. (maybe this afternoon it'll be more crowded) Overall, a lot of people on the road, doing stuff. Small businesses, parks, and public venues closed, but other than nobody seems to be treating this like House Arrest.

I suspect that the main real world impact of the Stay at Home order will be to shutter most small businesses, and to give the local Constabulary the right to Lean On anyone who's out doing anything that bugs them for any reason, without having to worry about "probable cause" or other technicalities like that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:10 AM (V2Yro)

380 Fascinate is probably the right root. EFFASCINABLE is one of those words which strike the eye wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (QrImU)

381 Dozois made Asimov's SF Magazine the pre-eminent SF magazine . . . and then he killed it himself. It was politics. Beginning around 1990 or so, every single issue had to contain at least one Climate Apocalypse story and one Scary Christians! story. Sometimes they managed a twofer, where it was the Scary Christians! who caused the Climate Apocalypse, or the Climate Apocalypse led to the Scary Christians! taking over. After Clinton got elected a third theme crept in: the Future Healthcare Dystopia in which nobody gets proper treatment for anything because we won't have Hillarycare in the dystopian future. Occasionally it was the Scary Christians! who created the Healthcare Dystopia to stop abortion, but usually it was just generic white men in ties.

I stopped subscribing in the mid-1990s, when I realized I had something like a year of unread issues piled up, and no desire to read them because I knew what would be inside.

When Dozois stepped down as editor, his deputy Sheila Williams took over and doubled down, adding a steady drumbeat of Women Being Oppressed stories.

I just wanted to read about spaceships.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (DKCFT)

382 Puddin Tame

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 10:57 AM (NWiLs)


And if you aks me again, I'll tell you the same!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (Nq3+Y)

383 Greetings:

/and speaking of 1814, I'm taking a little trip down the mighty Mississip via "The Greatest Fury: The Battle of New Orleans and the Rebirth of America" by William C. Davis and which probably wasn't in any of Mr. Jefferson's libraries.

History-wise, it includes almost incredible amounts of detail but the maps are poor in the extreme barely legible without a 10-power magnifier. Their letterings are poorly done and they shouldn't have been reduced so much. Apparently, fold-ins/fold-outs are no longer recognized for their value especially when it comes to mappings. As a typography buff, legibility comes first for me.

Still a worthwhile read about an important American battle.



Posted by: 11B40 at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (evgyj)

384 Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (exg7Q)

Everything I read is in the public domain, and I love to read it on my laptop because I can make it REALLY BIG. At my age, reading hard copy print editions is just too exhausting.

Posted by: Caliban at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (QE8X6)

385
I remember the civil defense siren blaring every Saturday at 1PM. I don't miss it.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM


ours goes off at Noon every Saturday

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 11:12 AM (jBVKC)

386 357 Thomas Jefferson's Library featuring The Un-Comfy Chair.

If I am ever fortunate enough to have a dedicated library room, it will have a chair like that to suggest that visitors are welcome but not expected to stay for very long.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (qc+VF)

better save your cash for the chair

even if you removed the provenance from the chair, one would still be looking at 10K plus for a chair of that order

and it's actually just a sitting room chair in the library

Period chairs made specifically for the library are off the chart $$$

Posted by: REDACTED at March 29, 2020 11:12 AM (rpxSz)

387 Alice Cooper = Vince Furnier. Grew up in (and AFAIK,
still lives in) NE Phoenix, he's adopted my old high school (Arcadia)
as his pet project, and does benefits there most every spring.



Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (V2Yro)



Thought he was from Mich.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 11:07 AM (X/Pw5)

Maybe you're thinking of Kid Rock? He's from Detroit.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 11:12 AM (nRNOc)

388 civil defense siren

More recently the area around san luis obispo nuke power plant (as seen in china syndrome) was required to install widespread OMG WE GONNA DIE CUZ NUCULUR BAD!!11 sirens around the county. Of course more recently the plant was shut down CUZ WE DONT NEED NO STEENKING LECTRICITY!! IT COMES OUT THE WALL FINE, DUH!!

Posted by: getting the banned back together for a plant tour at March 29, 2020 11:13 AM (ee9Yd)

389 >>> In the early 70s, it was widely reported that Leave It to Beaver

star Ken Osmond had become "rock star Alice Cooper."

The rumor I always heard was that John Holmes was Eddie Haskell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 29, 2020 11:13 AM (vuisn)

390 When the bowels are full
And the john, the john is yours alone
When you're sure you've had enough
Of the pain, don't hang on

Just let yourself go
'Cause everybody cries
And everybody poops sometimes

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

391 Damn you. Now I've got an ear worm with that singer's whiny voice ..."Everybody poops...."

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (gLRfa)

Don't use many plys

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 11:14 AM (nRNOc)

392 Wife made a bitchen breakfast this morning.

Bacon, scrambled eggs, biscuits and gravy......with a cup of coffee, I'm not complaining about life at this moment.....

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

393 Just let yourself go
'Cause everybody cries
And everybody poops sometimes
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

REM? Whiny, Harping people holding hands?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:15 AM (QrImU)

394 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:02 AM (V2Yro)

Thought he was from Mich.
Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2020 11:07 AM (X/Pw5)

Alice Cooper / Vince Furnier was born in Detroit; but his family moved to Phoenix when he was still young because the Detroit winters were very damaging to his health.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:15 AM (V2Yro)

395 ''Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids. And thus in adults.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

Isn't that a song by REM?
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)''

Never let it be said that a Moron will waste an opportunity to expand on a bad idea. LOL

Now that ear worm is working overtime. Help!

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:16 AM (gLRfa)

396 REM? Whiny, Harping people holding hands?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:15 AM (QrImU)


Even THEY admitted that song was a HUGE mistake.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

397 I stopped reading when he went WOKE and introduced
GENERIC STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER as a quasi-replacement to Bosch, so now


I was reading a Roman mystery series by Lindsey Davis involving a detective who somehow manages to hook up with a Senator's daughter way out of his class reach. The Senator's daughter character does a lot of the detecting and thinking. Then they have a daughter, who grows up and takes over as the main character doing the detecting.

Now, putting aside how this is incredibly a-historical and ridiculous, the author clearly always meant for a female character to be the main one, but didn't think that would sell so they wrote a series with the guy to establish themselves.

The same sort of thing is going on with Gary Corby's Athenian mystery series, where the main character (Socrates' older brother) meets a girl who is smarter and righter than he is, who ends up being the main detective even though he always "solves" everything in the end, even if it doesn't make sense how he worked it out.

If you want to write a female character, do it, don't make her the better half of a team over your alleged protagonist guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:16 AM (KZzsI)

398 Isn't that a song by REM?

If you feel like letting go
Hold on
If you think you've had too much...
Well hang on
Cause everybody...

Posted by: t-bird at March 29, 2020 11:17 AM (cfSLd)

399 The only series I can think of that might be similar to Bosch is the John Sandford Prey series.

***********

Thanks, i havent read that so might finally give me something worth reading this week.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Reading a Book at March 29, 2020 11:17 AM (+dsLj)

400 "Zappa said "If you can clear a room that fast, you MUST be on my record label."


There was a rumor going around that Cooper bit the head off a live chicken onstage. Zappa phoned him to ask if the story was true. Cooper denied it, and Zappa then told him, "Well, whatever you do, don't tell anyone you didn't do it".

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 11:17 AM (Tnijr)

401 Even THEY admitted that song was a HUGE mistake.
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

Just like Stalin.

Wait...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:17 AM (QrImU)

402 359 "Can anyone recommend novels similar to Michael Connelly's Harry Bosch series?"

I got tired of Connelly and all his big L.A. cop department politics bullshit.

But liking crime novels set in L.A., I like everything by Robert Crais, with his ex-military L.A. guys Elvis Cole, private detective, and his partner Joe Pike, as deadly a character as there ever was.

And the food. Crais always slips in kitchen food prep mealtime stuff, so you learn how to do such things as cottage cheese pancakes.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 29, 2020 11:17 AM (+fPHo)

403 Regarding the Who Dis - Yeah, that happened to me every time I tried to read Finigans Wake too.

Posted by: Last at March 29, 2020 11:18 AM (BdIMF)

404 My uncle called. He's leaving some food on the front porch for me to pick up.

Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 11:18 AM (y+Ufa)

405 I too have been reading a lot of public domain old books lately. Partly because the library is closed, and partly because it is my determination to read all the classic books I should have in my youth but never could get into back then.

I still have a hard time reading Dickens, he writes too much a tract and not enough a novel.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (KZzsI)

406 Well that's a bummer, Nurse Ratched and I were talking about taking a trip to Monticello while we're at the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 10:10 AM (6ofTb)

At one point the SJW started talking about mass incarceration and my wife said "For breaking the law?"

Silence.

After that, we just trailed back and paid her no mind.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (aiWhJ)

407 Growing up in Phoenix was interesting in the 60's and 70's; I didn't have a single school friend who was actually born there. The city went from a population of 50,000 to 1 million in 20 years. Now the Valley is at about 5,000,000 I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (V2Yro)

408 Morning Horde.
Did the majority of my move yesterday. Spent the night in my new place.

Didn't sleep hardly at all
Trying to decide if I want to make some coffee and try to get Lucy out of her hiding place or cry.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (mJH4o)

409 Oh, the Left has been after Thomas since before they
were after the Confederate statues. He's been a hate figure for the
woke-folk for some time now.



Remember it doesn't have to make sense - except in context of "all
ideation preceding the current iteration of the neo-Maoists' party line
must be excised from cultural memory."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (II2Y0)

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The Jefferson/Jackson dinners are now "Legacy Dinners."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

410 Meghan poops on my face and I call it French toast

Posted by: Prance Harry at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (CLteG)

411 Didn't sleep hardly at all
Trying to decide if I want to make some coffee and try to get Lucy out of her hiding place or cry.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (mJH4o)


Embrace the power of and.....

Sorry....it'll get better. It usually does.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

412 395 ''Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)


And then add a dollop of Drag Queen Story Hour to groom little kids so they won't defend themselves against being molested later on.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (Nq3+Y)

413 404 My uncle called. He's leaving some food on the front porch for me to pick up.
Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 11:18 AM (y+Ufa)

Is he going to leave it out in a shiny metal bowl?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (V2Yro)

414 Day 2 of the East Texas Lockdown: Just got back from a trip to Home Depot, picked up $300 worth of gardening stuff and plantings so I can work in the yard most of the day. (nice sunny spring day here so far!) Home Depot is only allowing 100 people in at a time (voluntarily) but I didn't have to wait in line. (maybe this afternoon it'll be more crowded) Overall, a lot of people on the road, doing stuff. Small businesses, parks, and public venues closed, but other than nobody seems to be treating this like House Arrest.

I suspect that the main real world impact of the Stay at Home order will be to shutter most small businesses, and to give the local Constabulary the right to Lean On anyone who's out doing anything that bugs them for any reason, without having to worry about "probable cause" or other technicalities like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 29, 2020 11:10 AM (V2Yro)

Went to Home Depot in East Mesa a couple of days ago. They were doing that "hundred person" BS, and there was a long line. I walked back to the truck and drove a mile to Lowes, and waltzed right in, got my three items, and left.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (miJU3)

415 Meghan poops on my face and I call it French toast
Posted by: Prance Harry at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (CLteG)


I thought that was a Cleveland Steamer.

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

416 "the rugged individual who needs no one and finds his
way by force of will, character, and skill... and the family that
always sticks together and helps each other out through any adversity.
Those two concepts just do not blend, so the book feels oddly uneven and conflicted to me."

Posted by C Taylor

good observation. Gangs tend to win, in real life. Self reliance, maybe now more than ever, may include the ability to form social alliances with various groups, yet maintain "social distancing" when it comes to the sovereign family unit. (as opposed to teachers showing grade school kids how to have save sex, perverse being taught as normal)


And maybe that is the story of America ... sovereign rights, yet federal government with the limited intent of fighting the roving gangs ... enemies foreign and domestic. The rugged individuals need to be able to have their own version of "collective bargaining" over their sovereignty. "We must all hang together, or surely we will all hang separately". (Ben said that, I think)


Some preppers figured out they need strong community preparation, not just a bunker.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 29, 2020 11:21 AM (Cus5s)

417 " I too have been reading a lot of public domain old books lately"

Most everything I had read lately is on Gutenberg. It's great resource and has more stuff than I could read in a lifetime.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 11:21 AM (Tnijr)

418 233 ... " There's a really nice hardback edition of Farmer Giles, profusely illustrated by Pauline Baynes (I grew up with the basic paperback version, which had a few pictures).

It would make a nice gift."

Eris, Great minds think alike. I just ordered a copy for myself. Birthday coming soon.) I have the corresponding first edition of "Smith of Wooten Major". Got it at a library sale and it is a 'sorta' uncommon book, one of the few I have that qualifies.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 11:21 AM (7EjX1)

419 If you want to write a female character, do it, don't make her the better half of a team over your alleged protagonist guy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:16 AM (KZzsI)

The problem is many modern writers seem to be crap. They do not know how to write an interesting cast of characters instead of one 'wunderkind'- be it male or female.

I am trying to think of a good example of ensemble and I am only coming up with Star Trek (TOS.) Each of the characters is strong, but different. They compliment each other.

Complement or compliment? I am thinking complement for this usage...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:22 AM (QrImU)

420 I fear that the same fate that has befallen comic book stores will also crush most small used book stores. They are in the same kind of boat: huge inventory, small profit margin, month-to-month survival, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)

421
Hey now....re: Alice Cooper... I get a half credit for getting the sport.....right? Even though I'm about 300 comments behind everyone else.... lol


Oh.... and I also thought 'Life Unworthy' was an interesting read....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at March 29, 2020 11:22 AM (90+00)

422 In the early 70s, it was widely reported that Leave It to Beaver


star Ken Osmond had become "rock star Alice Cooper."

The rumor I always heard was that John Holmes was Eddie Haskell.


Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 29, 2020 11:13 AM (vuisn)


Maybe he was both and that's what got Jerry Mathers killed in Vietnam

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 11:22 AM (865w5)

423 Yeah, I was hoping for a trip to Monticello on my way to the NoVaMoMe if we have it. Now I'm afraid it'll just annoy me. Nurse and Jordan61 and I should coordinate the same tour, and all roll our eyes in unison, heh.

Posted by: skywch at March 29, 2020 11:23 AM (Y/Ps0)

424 If it wasn't for the fucking NYC peeps coming up, the Berkshires would be pretty calm atm

I happy to see the locals acting very calm and responsible

Posted by: REDACTED at March 29, 2020 11:23 AM (rpxSz)

425 Everybody Poops" as an example? Children's libraries have become the
initial step in destroying Protestant work ethic and modesty in kids.
And thus in adults.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Y4EXg)

for
real the first time I saw this book was in a doctor's office. The
doctor turned out to be a real jagoff but that is beside the point. It
was odd that this guy had that book on display, he was not a
pediatrician to say the least. Also, who needs a book to tell them
everybody poops? What is the point? Don't people still have parents?
I never followed it but the first cartoon that I recall that was just pure gross out for the sake of being gross was ren and stimpy. Others shows are more obscene or controversial but that first one was when I new cartoons would never be the same.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 11:24 AM (hHxp2)

426 My special personal government is shitty muzak earworm...all day everyday forever and ever stop. Repeat.

Muzak was a perverse rape of anything musical.

Warning to the youngsters...do not research muzak. Unless you have the knack too strip power from the black sabbath that plummets memories beyond the healings of the vapors of thunderpussy.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 29, 2020 11:24 AM (9PtLS)

427 414 I've been working in the yard as well to pass the time. I went to Home Depot last week but they had hardly any plants yet. Also ground is really wet here still so can;t do much except rake and clean stuff up. Hard part is a day like today, rainy and cold. Glad I have you all to talk to.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 11:24 AM (QzF6i)

428 for
real the first time I saw this book was in a doctor's office. The
doctor turned out to be a real jagoff but that is beside the point. It
was odd that this guy had that book on display, he was not a
pediatrician to say the least. Also, who needs a book to tell them
everybody poops? What is the point? Don't people still have parents?
I never followed it but the first cartoon that I recall that was just pure gross out for the sake of being gross was ren and stimpy. Others shows are more obscene or controversial but that first one was when I new cartoons would never be the same.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 11:24 AM (hHxp2)


I'm working on a sequel book, "If it eats, it shits."

Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

429 There was a rumor going around that Cooper bit the head off a live chicken onstage.



Maybe Ozzy Osbourne started the bat eating craze in China

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 11:25 AM (865w5)

430 In these almost burning times, there is no more dining en famille. Just outdoor food transfers, with love.

Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 11:25 AM (y+Ufa)

431 Most everything I had read lately is on Gutenberg. It's great resource and has more stuff than I could read in a lifetime.

Yeah I've downloaded tons from there. Some of the copies aren't very well transferred to ebook format, but its fee and so much is available. Some I've had to find libra vox voice versions of, because I can't quite read myself but can handle with someone else reading.

I have "read" a lot of books like that lately while playing Skyrim and World of Warcraft.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:25 AM (KZzsI)

432 I would think the truth Everybody Poops is kind of self evincing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:26 AM (QrImU)

433 Spring is here; so are the black sugar ants. Anyone know any ant hacks?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 29, 2020 11:26 AM (7Fj9P)

434 I never followed it but the first cartoon that I recall that was just pure gross out for the sake of being gross was ren and stimpy.

Ren and Stimpy was creative but deliberately grotesque and terribly drawn. It was the start of a whole new wave of just horrible animated artwork that was cheap to produce because it didn't matter if it look awful, it was supposed to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:27 AM (KZzsI)

435 Go to Monticello. Don't let the idiots deprive you of a wonderful experience. The grounds are beautiful and should be in full blossom in May.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 11:27 AM (QzF6i)

436 433 Spring is here; so are the black sugar ants. Anyone know any ant hacks?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 29, 2020 11:26 AM (7Fj9P)

Fire. Beautiful, purifying flame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2020 11:27 AM (QrImU)

437 I just wanted to read about spaceships.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2020 11:11 AM (DKCFT)


About half the people out there would accuse YOU as being the who injects politics into everything, "It is Sci-Fi. Rockets. Why do always got to make everything about politics... wing-nut."

Propaganda works.
It works on about half the people ALL the time.
And the first to point it out is the one accused of doing it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 29, 2020 11:28 AM (1g7ch)

438 374 I go further than that: go back to Aristotle and Aquinas.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 10:48 AM (ZbwAu)

I agree that the consent of the governed thing was Locke's biggest claim to fame. On the "episemology" side, he was indeed part of the great stream that included Aristotle and Aquinas. So was Newton. Hume was an allergic reaction to Newton on behalf of the idealists, as he makes quite clear with the billiard balls thing, and so too probably was Berkeley.
Posted by: Caliban at March 29, 2020 11:08 AM (QE8X6)
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I don't agree about Locke 'On the "episemology" side, he was indeed part of the great stream that included Aristotle and Aquinas.'

He, like virtually all the early moderns, fell into the trap the pre-Socratics did. As Aristotle points out, you will go awry if you identify intellect with sensation. And that's really what Locke did. Even Descartes sails awfully close to the wind there.

I do not see how you can start with Locke's epistemology and not end in idealism of some sort. That certainly is true of the vast body of British Empiricists.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 11:28 AM (ZbwAu)

439
Spring is here; so are the black sugar ants. Anyone know any ant hacks?



Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 29, 2020 11:26 AM

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Terro liquid ant bait/killer. Works on the ones here in Texas. We get them every Spring and they get in the dog food/

Put some of that out and within a day or two they are gone.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 29, 2020 11:28 AM (JUOKG)

440 Spring is here; so are the black sugar ants. Anyone know any ant hacks?

Those Terro ant traps really work, but you gotta give them time. IN a couple weeks the entire nest will be wiped out.

Unfortunately, they only work on a certain sort of ant, so if you don't have that sort in your house, they just ignore the traps.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:29 AM (KZzsI)

441 "picked up $300 worth of gardening stuff and plantings so I can work in the yard most of the day."

Probably a lot of families are bending toward such healthy activity now, and the impact on "TheEconomy" may be healthy as well. Money still circulates, but maybe more toward home activities, less to corporate sports and mind bending TV.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 29, 2020 11:30 AM (Cus5s)

442 Read Forrest Gump this week by Grooms. Quite a hoot of a read. If you want laughs pick it up. Currently reading my sister's compilation of her husband's great, great granddaddy who served with 74th Illinois during the unpleasantness. The book is Letters Home and that is just what it is, Henry V. Freeman's letters home to his family. So far have read to the capture of Nashville and battle of Murfeesboro. Couple of things repeat - his need for money (they have not been paid), boots, candy and a hat. After the battle his company numbered less than forty. For those that like first hand accounts of soldiering in the 19th century, you would enjoy this book.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 29, 2020 11:30 AM (QZCjk)

443 Another vote for Patrick McManus. But I only read his columns (I have several collections of them) when I'm in a position to roar with laughter and have oxygen handy when I can't catch my breath from laughing so hard.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2020 11:31 AM (7EjX1)

444 435 Go to Monticello. Don't let the idiots deprive you of a wonderful experience. The grounds are beautiful and should be in full blossom in May.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 11:27 AM (QzF6i)

I agree. I only wish I had a heads up is all.

We had a much better tour and time at Montpelier. The tour guide there really gave a sense of the history in some of the rooms. The gardens are nice also.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 11:31 AM (aiWhJ)

445 Reading right now on Kindle through the Libby library app, Alan Furst's excellent "Mission to Paris."

Almost all Furst's novels are set in pre WW2 Europe, in that nervous mess when everyone knows Germany is building up to mayhem, but no one can figure out any way to stop it. And his settings almost always involve Paris.

Furst lived in Paris and so the descriptions of salon life, bistros, cocktail receptions, the buildings, streets, waiters, bartenders, all of it seems really genuine. And the late 30s settings are like traveling in time.

Mission to Paris resonates quite well with our current situation, the world on the brink of something huge but no one knows what, and the instigator of all the mess, Hitler's Germany, is playing a monstrous game of political disinformation propaganda.

Sounds like today, right? Except that then we had the Atlantic ocean as our Maginot line. Today, the enemy, the invisible virus, was carried here by unknowing civilians landing on airplanes in New York and everywhere else.

And WW2 even though it destroyed much of Europe, it did not crash our economy.

The central character in Mission to Paris is a Viennese-born Hollywood actor, fluent in English, German, and French. He is in Paris to shoot a film, and the Nazis want him as a vehicle to promote propaganda. Nasty people. Deadly. Vicious.

But so far, the actor has pretty good survival skills.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 29, 2020 11:31 AM (+fPHo)

446 Those Terro ant traps really work, but you gotta give them time. IN a couple weeks the entire nest will be wiped out.

Unfortunately, they only work on a certain sort of ant, so if you don't have that sort in your house, they just ignore the traps.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:29 AM (KZzsI)


*Taking notes*

Posted by: China at March 29, 2020 11:31 AM (hku12)

447 Anyone know any ant hacks?

That illegal but available at bodegas chinese insecticide chalk.

Oh wait.

Posted by: getting the banned back together at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (mz9JE)

448 ''Yeah, I was hoping for a trip to Monticello on my way to the NoVaMoMe if we have it. Now I'm afraid it'll just annoy me. Nurse and Jordan61 and I should coordinate the same tour, and all roll our eyes in unison, heh.''

You would be annoyed but go anyway. The place is fascinating and the setting is quite beautiful. Just tune out the ''woke stuff". The first time we visited back in the 90's the tour was fine, meaning it wasn't all woke. The 2nd time the social justice stuff had started to creep in. I ignored it. If you have time go across the valley and check out James Monroe's place. It has been added on to over the years but the tour was interesting. Monroe and Jefferson had telescopes set up so they could view each other's homes. They visited quite often.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (gLRfa)

449 Go to Monticello. Don't let the idiots deprive you of a wonderful experience. The grounds are beautiful and should be in full blossom in May.
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We went there. The docents were tripping all over their dicks to "balance" opinions about how racisty-racist TJ was b/c: slaves. There was a plaque with a long story about a slave TJ had who was raised in his field hand cabins, then got "promoted" to Monticello. Apparently TJ was so racist he educated him, let him run some of his business affairs, then freed him. The guy moved to Cincinnati, and became a successful business man. Oh and, owned several of his own slaves.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (7Fj9P)

450 412. our library has no plan to host a drag queen storytime. The parents in the community would not support that travesty.

Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (y+Ufa)

451 I liked Pat McManus' short columns he did in Field and Stream a lot but I tried to read one of his mystery novels (the Bo Tully books) and it was... awful. Seriously it was one of the worst books I've ever not been able to finish.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

452 I used to run with Alice Cooper on our indoor track in my club in the Catskills when Cooper was in the area. One of the nicer celebrities that came to the club.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 11:33 AM (2DOZq)

453 And my mother tells me they went to Monticello a year earlier than us and it wasn't white privilege preachy. So it could be the guide you get also.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 11:33 AM (aiWhJ)

454 Late today, so haven't read comments yet...

Who Dis looks like Patti Smith.

Posted by: JQ at March 29, 2020 11:34 AM (whOIk)

455 It's a token ring mentality.

Old school network people will get this.

Everyone else will just think it's gay.
Posted by: Sponge at March 29, 2020 10:45 AM (Zz0t1)

*waves.hand*
I got it!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 11:34 AM (G546f)

456 I read "Other Minds," a bunch of related essays by Peter Godfrey-Smith. It has to do with the idea of "consciousness" and also cephalopods. Recommended.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 29, 2020 11:35 AM (l9m7l)

457 wful. Seriously it was one of the worst books I've ever not been able to finish.
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Planning on giving Cuckoo's Nest another go. I absolutely loved Sometimes a Great Notion but lost interest in Cuckoo's Nest. I was reading Kesey in the mid 70s so this lack of interest in Cuckoo's Nest could have been caused by being a teenager. Who knows?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 29, 2020 11:35 AM (QZCjk)

458 Other Middlebrook books I recommend include Battleship (about the Japanese sinking the Prince of Wales and the Repulse), The Nuremburg Raid (the Brits lose 96 heavy bombers), and The Berlin Raids (Bomber Harris tries and fails to win the war without invading the continent).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)

I just purchased the Peenemunde Raid on your recommendation. I need to purchase a book on a WWII battle for my son, who is really getting into military history. He's fascinated by Alexander the Great.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 29, 2020 11:35 AM (m2EfB)

459 One thing puzzles me about the Girl Power! crap. That is that it can be made to work. In the mid-60s, my absolute favorite TV show (still high on my list) was The Avengers. And Emma Peel could do almost anything. (And anything she wanted to do to me.)

But it wasn't preachy and it was tongue in cheek. I must add that I was about 12 or 13 when it came on - exactly the right age to fall under her spell. But Dad was a fan, too.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 11:35 AM (ZbwAu)

460 Did you know who had to dust all of those books?
That's right. Slaves.

Posted by: Tourguide for school groups at Monticello at March 29, 2020 11:36 AM (M/9m0)

461 my son, who is really getting into military history. He's fascinated by Alexander the Great.

I recommend unto him The Virtues of War by Stephen Pressfield. Its the story of Alexander's great conquests, but from the perspective of military morale, virtues that got his army to be so successful, and how they can be lost through indiscipline and distraction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)

462 Thanks for feedback about Monticello, everyone. Montpelier sounds great too, if it will be open after renovations. Am also thinking about GW Mount Vernon. I've visited Washington DC proper, but never the surrounding historical sites in VA.

Posted by: skywch at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (Y/Ps0)

463 Still my opinion that Confederacy of Dunces is the worst acclaimed book ever written.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (2DOZq)

464 I knew a chick that could accurately tell strangers what star sign they were just from meeting them and assessing their personality. She was weird.
Posted by: ... at March 29, 2020 10:33 AM (uEbPt)

A WITCH!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

"Where did you learn so much about science ?"

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 11:38 AM (arJlL)

465 Well, of course I didn't expect to be the first to identify today's who dis... The woman is memorably homely (imo, and no beauty queen myself) but I like her music-- in small doses.

Posted by: JQ at March 29, 2020 11:38 AM (whOIk)

466 I recommend unto him The Virtues of War by Stephen Pressfield. Its the story of Alexander's great conquests, but from the perspective of military morale, virtues that got his army to be so successful, and how they can be lost through indiscipline and distraction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)
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Pressfield's "Gates of Fire" is also excellent.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at March 29, 2020 11:39 AM (g8Yc+)

467 One thing puzzles me about the Girl Power! crap. That is that it can be made to work.

That's what is frustrating. I'm still baffled by how the left and right almost completely swapped places culturally and almost overnight in so many ways.

Now the left is trying to ban fun and legislate morality, they're the side putting out effectively tracts that are incredibly earnest and awkward and terrible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

468 448 ''Yeah, I was hoping for a trip to Monticello on my way to the NoVaMoMe if we have it. Now I'm afraid it'll just annoy me. Nurse and Jordan61 and I should coordinate the same tour, and all roll our eyes in unison, heh.''

You would be annoyed but go anyway. The place is fascinating and the setting is quite beautiful. Just tune out the ''woke stuff". The first time we visited back in the 90's the tour was fine, meaning it wasn't all woke. The 2nd time the social justice stuff had started to creep in. I ignored it. If you have time go across the valley and check out James Monroe's place. It has been added on to over the years but the tour was interesting. Monroe and Jefferson had telescopes set up so they could view each other's homes. They visited quite often.
Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (gLRfa)
________

The story is that Jefferson designed Ash Lawn, too, and made the door at the entrance facing Monticello so low that Monroe "would have to bow to me every time he went through it."

Back in the day, I was dating a girl who was a guide at Ash Lawn, and also in the UVa guides. Of course the job she really wanted was at Monticello, but they were tough to get part time. Still, I learnt a lot about the two she did do.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 11:40 AM (ZbwAu)

469 Are we beyond books yet?

Two things, first, I watched four episodes of the Amazon series on Ted Bundy, and it's told from the perspective of his long time girlfriend, as well as family/friends of some of the women he killed.

Extremely well done, and for anyone who has READ lots about Bundy, there's insight that one doesn't get from focusing solely on him.

Second, I listened to a podcast of Eric Weinstein interviewing his brother, Bret. Are y'all familiar with these guys? Eric appears to have some rather large chips on his shoulders, and I'm going to listen to more of his podcasts to find out exactly where he's coming from, but he has some ideas about how/why we have information that does not get out there. He seems to believe there are gatekeepers in universities, in scholarly publishing, and even book publishing, that keeps new ideas from getting heard.

Interesting subject.

His brother... well, his brother has a fascinating story to tell... and I'm not talking about the fact that he and his wife were the center of the Evergreen college blow-up.

You have to listen. It's a video that doesn't have to be watched, you can play it in the background. You have to get past Eric browbeating his brother in the beginning before the really really interesting stuff gets going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLb5hZLw44s

Posted by: BurtTC at March 29, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)

470 Pressfield's "Gates of Fire" is also excellent.

He does the same thing in that book, its ostensibly an entertaining read about history and the Thermopylae battle but its actually an examination of fear and how a soldier can overcome it, and be stronger because of it.

I like how he does that with his books, but it doesn't always work. His book on amazons was just bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:41 AM (KZzsI)

471 462 Thanks for feedback about Monticello, everyone. Montpelier sounds great
too, if it will be open after renovations. Am also thinking about GW
Mount Vernon. I've visited Washington DC proper, but never the
surrounding historical sites in VA.

Posted by: skywch at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (Y/Ps0)

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Mount Vernon is definitely worth a visit. However, last time we went, we ended up with an SJW-ish tour guide. Still a great place to go. Also check out Gunston Hall, George Mason's home. It's about half an hour from Mount Vernon.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at March 29, 2020 11:41 AM (XXNQ+)

472 Mt Vernon is fun too. I don't think we had to take a tour. Different feeling than Monticello. I was in total awe of Thomas Jefferson and I felt priveleged to see where he lived and worked. Mt Vernon felt more like seeing a slice of life of the times but no real sense of George Washington.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2020 11:41 AM (QzF6i)

473 463 Still my opinion that Confederacy of Dunces is the worst acclaimed book ever written.
-----------------------------
I actually loved it. Amazing characters: Ignatius, Myrna Minkoff, and his mother. Remember, this was written during the early sixties. I think Toole killed himself in 1971 and it took Walker Percy to bring it to publication in the 80s at the request of his mother.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 29, 2020 11:41 AM (QZCjk)

474 I've had an idea for a children's picture book kicking around in my head for years but haven't had the guts to write it yet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

The Hongry Moose ?

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (arJlL)

475 My uncle called. He's leaving some food on the front porch for me to pick up.

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I miss the old days when only crack houses took such precautions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (+y/Ru)

476 Fauci is writing some really nice fiction work these days too, where everyone dies from the flu.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (Gl2vL)

477 If you have time go across the valley and check out James Monroe's place. It has been added on to over the years but the tour was interesting. Monroe and Jefferson had telescopes set up so they could view each other's homes. They visited quite often.
Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (gLRfa)

We did that also. It was good.

My wife wants to go back to Monticello but skip the house tour. She is into the flowers at the homes. Someone there gave her some growing vine seeds or deadheads she asked about. They were growing over a line of arbors, purple, and were beautiful. I'll have to ask.

Plus it is a good area to just take a minor 3-4 day vacation.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (aiWhJ)

478 I'm reading "Indestructible" the true story of Pappy Gunn. man, what a wild dude. I'm about halfway through, and he's already used up 9 lives, and probably saved more lives in the Pacific theater than any one man could. Just crazy.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (7Fj9P)

479 450 412. our library has no plan to host a drag queen storytime. The parents in the community would not support that travesty.
Posted by: kallisto at March 29, 2020 11:32 AM (y+Ufa)


In some cities, the library went ahead with DQSH events over and against objections from parents. Because freedom of expression or something.

Also, some parents are total dim bulbs who don't see anything wrong with having their children exposed to sexualized activities.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (Nq3+Y)

480 Thanks for feedback about Monticello, everyone.
Montpelier sounds great too, if it will be open after renovations. Am
also thinking about GW Mount Vernon. I've visited Washington DC proper,
but never the surrounding historical sites in VA.

Posted by: skywch at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (Y/Ps0)

There is also the Gristmill, is a couple miles away from the main Mount Vernon estate, where you can learn how they made whiskey. For a time, Mount Vernon distilled the largest amount of whiskey in the nation.


It's further down the road, but Gunston Hall (George Mason's estate) is interesting too.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 11:42 AM (nRNOc)

481 Not shown:
Gor


Well, Gor is an entirely different planet, so it wouldn't fit in on the map. No kajira for you!

I'm going back to yesterday's Kaissa problems.

Posted by: Chuck C at March 29, 2020 11:43 AM (r6GXX)

482 461 my son, who is really getting into military history. He's fascinated by Alexander the Great.

I recommend unto him The Virtues of War by Stephen Pressfield. Its the story of Alexander's great conquests, but from the perspective of military morale, virtues that got his army to be so successful, and how they can be lost through indiscipline and distraction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 29, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)
______

I know it's old, and the author was a bit of a kook, albeit brilliant, but I still think Fuller's book does the best job of actually explaining the battles' tactics. Especially the otherwise incomprehensible Jaxarta.

I was reluctant to put Alexander at #1 on the list of great captains, but had to give in. He was.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 29, 2020 11:44 AM (ZbwAu)

EMT 03/29/20

First day of spring yard work yesterday. I love doing that sort of stuff. Nothing like being able to visually see evidence of your hard work.

If only that paid like my real work.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Good Morning Morons today is Sunday, March 29, 2020. On this date in 1806 construction was authorized of the Great National Pike, better known as the Cumberland Road, becoming the first United States federal highway. The road ran westerly from Cumberland, MD to Vandalia, IL. Like most of the projects in the early 1800s it did not benefit the Southern States at all.


Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

3 Good morning, again.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 29, 2020 06:01 AM (Dhht7)

4 Fox's 'this day in history'.


https://tinyurl.com/ws64ndk

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

5 Cuomo threatening to sue over Rhode Island harassing New Yorkers fleeing the KoronaKrap to Rhode Island.


https://tinyurl.com/tame26b

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

6 RIP Tom Coburn from prostate cancer. This is a disease that is easily preventable if you get checked periodically after you turn 40. So morons take heed.


https://tinyurl.com/toag546

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

7 Heard lawn mowers the other day and thought that can't be necessary yet can it? Out yesterday and saw yep it is.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (ZCEU2)

8 americanthinker.com/coronavirus apocalypse now
https://tinyurl.com/rnytexx
Day 18 of the apocalypse

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (ZCEU2)

9 President Trump on Saturday night said the administration would not be issuing a quarantine on New York, parts of New Jersey and some of Connecticut as part of the efforts to curb the spread of the coronavirus.


However, later the CDC did issue a travel advisory.


https://tinyurl.com/st93qhe

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

10 Some companies are looking to deduct any gov stimulus money from the paychecks of their workers.


https://tinyurl.com/rb9ch99

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 06:03 AM (arJlL)

12 A cat in Belgium has tested positive for the KoronaKrap


https://tinyurl.com/td6uh8n

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

13 Another blue State Democrat uses the KoronaKrap to attack Trump.


https://tinyurl.com/ve2r3d4

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (O4024)

15 Blue State governors, Mayors, and other political AHs had begun using the KoronaKrap to ban the sale or transport of guns. Trump just put a stop to that mierda. They are using the KoronaKrap as an excuse for all kinds of their socialist wish list crap they have always wanted but have been unable to get and they are doing it by executive fiat.


https://tinyurl.com/rcse922

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

16 And here we have a Democrap from a supposed red State (MS) who doesn't like making gun dealers 'essential'. Let's face, vote Democrap and lose your second amendment rights.


https://tinyurl.com/ql76dun

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

17 A cat in Belgium has tested positive for the KoronaKrap

A beatnik ?

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (arJlL)

18 Mass shooting avoided in a Tulsa, OK shopping center. It was stopped by a man with concealed carry permit.


https://tinyurl.com/vg6bbjx

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

19
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (aUm7V)

20 Restaurant association say 11% of restaurants could close their doors for good. Well since 90 to 95 percent of new restaurants go out of business when there was no KoronaKrap I guess that is possible.


https://tinyurl.com/w28ekg2

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

21 How are you doing, Vic?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (OuZMr)

22 US KoronaKrap numbers as of yesterday's last update


total cases 124,665

Deaths 2191

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

23 Skip-

Pa's gotta have a Forestry Dep't and they gotta have a website !

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (arJlL)

24 RAMIREZ (repeat)


https://tinyurl.com/wvfjjkm



And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

25
First day of spring yard work yesterday. I love doing that sort of
stuff. Nothing like being able to visually see evidence of your hard
work.

If only that paid like my real work.


Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

My days of yard work are pretty much over.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:06 AM (mpXpK)

26 As said Leftists have a new play in the playbook, I have been convinced this is all just fear mongering to advance their agenda.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:07 AM (ZCEU2)

27 Morning all.

I've seen many YouTubers say 'That which cannot be named'
instead of using covid/WuFlu/ChinaVirus or any other name lest they be demonetized.

WTF is up with the YT SpeechNazis?

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 29, 2020 06:08 AM (d6mdH)

28 21
How are you doing, Vic?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (OuZMr)


Doing OK, thanks

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:08 AM (mpXpK)

29 Jim Gaffigan on weddings. Hilarious:

https://youtu.be/C7fZBoNjqqY

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 06:09 AM (oZuI0)

30 Hope cat story is a one in a million, heard on radio people were abandoning pets to shelters thinking a pet could give the the dreaded Wuhan virus.
Cat looks like my Cinnamon except missing the light tan spot on her forehead.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:10 AM (ZCEU2)

31 6 RIP Tom Coburn from prostate cancer. This is a disease that is easily preventable if you get checked periodically after you turn 40. So morons take heed.


https://tinyurl.com/toag546
Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

Those free gas station attendant prostate checks are a scam do not fall for them more than 3 to 5 times.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:11 AM (JFO2v)

32 I got 2 hours of sleep. A thunderstorm woke me up and that was that.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 29, 2020 06:11 AM (TdMsT)

33 Hey demi-troll:

https://youtu.be/H-HUqss4Ekg

Yummy all around.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 06:12 AM (oZuI0)

34 Harris County

Infection 213
Deaths 1

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:14 AM (JFO2v)

35 Hope cat story is a one in a million, heard on radio people were abandoning pets to shelters thinking a pet could give the the dreaded Wuhan virus.
Cat looks like my Cinnamon except missing the light tan spot on her forehead.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:10 AM (ZCEU2)

I think that was stock photo of a generic cat. I can't imagine pets, especially cats, as carriers to people. It's not like they'd go to cat school and catch it from other cats.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 06:18 AM (zqs/f)

36 30
Hope cat story is a one in a million, heard on radio people were
abandoning pets to shelters thinking a pet could give the the dreaded
Wuhan virus.

Cat looks like my Cinnamon except missing the light tan spot on her forehead.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:10 AM (ZCEU2)

My cats are all on permanent " quarantine" in the house. It is a proven fact that here in SC if you let your cats run in and out it will not be long before you have a flea infestation that is almost impossible to get rid of.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:19 AM (mpXpK)

37 Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) called for Mississippi to do something similar to the lockdown that South Korea did for gun shops and a lot of other places, not the necessary businesses that we need to have open.

Dems prove over and over that you will be left unarmed and defenceless when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:20 AM (JFO2v)

38 22 US KoronaKrap numbers as of yesterday's last update


total cases 124,665

Deaths 2191
Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

Flu Deaths in March

1850

Average per week last 6 years

153

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:23 AM (JFO2v)

39 Are all of these politicians who are calling for fun shops to close also the ones calling to release prisoners due to COVID?

'Cuz that's a great big "Nope" from me...

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (OuZMr)

40 Have not had a lick of sleep all night. Laid in bed and no joy on snoozing. Supposed to be at work in a few hours. Don't think that will happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (lY631)

41 Well Morons, links are up (did not oversleep today), my morning meds are taken and breakfast has been consumed. Time to hit the rocking chair and brown. The radio here in the living room is about to switch to church services anyway. So be good.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

42 Vic I was working county city, had to walk very close to a cat on house step every day for weeks. All of a sudden we had fleas and was a bitch to get rid of them. I am sure that interaction was the source.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (ZCEU2)

43 Gun, not fun.

Although fun works, too!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:25 AM (OuZMr)

44 I work for a Tier 1 auto manufacturer, so I was laid off 3/19 and will return when Ford, GM. Fiat Chrysler, and the unions say it's OK.

My company is paying all its employees 100% base salary for the pay period 3/22 - 4/4, so I have another paycheck in the interim. Plus, they are covering our insurance premiums up to 2 months after the layoff, after which COBRA coverage would take effect.

I'm thankful and fortunate, as I know many others who don't get the same luxury. BTW, our company's corporate HQ is in.....Canada.

Posted by: Fortcoins at March 29, 2020 06:26 AM (JbL9Q)

45 Pot shops essential
Gun shops not.

Got to keep the proles unarmed and tanked on the Borloi.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:26 AM (lY631)

46 42
Vic I was working county city, had to walk very close to a cat on house
step every day for weeks. All of a sudden we had fleas and was a bitch
to get rid of them. I am sure that interaction was the source.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (ZCEU2)

Fleas will jump on your pants legs and hop off in the house every time you walk through a mess of them.

Now off to the rocking chair.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:27 AM (mpXpK)

47 iRacing from Texas on Fox and FS1 at noon CDT

O'Reilly Auto Parts 125
Sunday, March 29, 2020 - Texas Motor Speedway
1:00pm/et
Laps: 125
TV: Fox, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports App

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:27 AM (JFO2v)

48 Have not had a lick of sleep all night. Laid in bed and no joy on snoozing. Supposed to be at work in a few hours. Don't think that will happen.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Something on your mind bothering you ?

Hope you can relax and catch some zzzzzz's.

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 06:28 AM (arJlL)

49 Restaurant association say 11% of restaurants could
close their doors for good. Well since 90 to 95 percent of new
restaurants go out of business when there was no KoronaKrap I guess that
is possible.


https://tinyurl.com/w28ekg2


Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

I can believe the 11% number; it may even be higher in certain places. What wasn't mentioned, though, were the restaurants that were in the pre-opening stages, like buildout or hiring staff or the like. How many of them will never open?

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 06:28 AM (nRNOc)

50 Here in my area of Western NYS gun stores are running low on ammo.
ROCHESTER N.Y. (WHEC) Coronavirus closures are bringing overwhelming demand for ammo at some local gun shops.....

Our beloved Gov. Cumo should get right on this and ban the sale...he has declared gun stores not essential..

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 06:29 AM (VW+Vt)

51 41 Well Morons, links are up (did not oversleep today), my morning meds are taken and breakfast has been consumed. Time to hit the rocking chair and brown. The radio here in the living room is about to switch to church services anyway. So be good.
Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

thanks Vic
rock on!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:29 AM (JFO2v)

52 Nothing bothering me, well not more than the usual. Nor dread of the 'wonderful' shoppers of Wally World. Just can not sleep.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:30 AM (lY631)

53 South Carolina reports that only 18% of available ventilators are actually in use at this time.

IOW, 92% of ventilator capacity is currently idle.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:30 AM (O4024)

54 92% should have been 82%.


F'n math.

How does i work?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:31 AM (O4024)

55 South Caroline should rent 30% of them to New York.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:31 AM (lY631)

56 The media does not want to talk about the math of the Diamond Princess

3711 on ship. 630 tested positive for WuHan Flu. Only 8 died.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:33 AM (lY631)

57 Still almost 2 dozen states with only single digit fatalities, a few with 0

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:34 AM (ZCEU2)

58 The MFM does not do math, that's beyond their pay grade.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 06:36 AM (VW+Vt)

59 "South Caroline should rent 30% of them to New York."

That would make sense, wouldn't it.


On the other hand, once we ramp up production, what will the life span of a ventilator in storage be?

As demand slows back to normal, where and how will States effectively store, control and account for tens of thousands of these devices that are no longer needed on a regular basis?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:36 AM (O4024)

60 WI reporting just over 1000 cases. A little more than 1/2 of those in Milwaukee county. I think it's up to 17 deaths.

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 06:38 AM (Z/jzm)

61 Is flour sold out everywhere or only in the Pacific Northwest?

Who is hoarding flour?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 06:38 AM (fg6n8)

62 "3711 on ship. 630 tested positive for WuHan Flu. Only 8 died."


And still, no piles of urban homeless bodies stacking under urban overpasses.

In thee meanwhile, a retirement home in Maryland reported 60-something caesura, with I believe 11 of them hospitalized.


This won't end well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:38 AM (O4024)

63 Flour is hard to find here, too.

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 06:39 AM (Z/jzm)

64 All that TP being horded, sales for paper products will drop like a rock, and more layoffs.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 06:39 AM (VW+Vt)

65 If it bleeds, it leads.
American news is selling stories of celebrities catching the corona virus and of big city residents fleeing to the hinterlands, spreading disease, and hoarding food. As gout was once "the disease of kings" and AIDS was the "gay disease", now covid19 is being reported as a blue county plague. If they don't like the China virus designation, they shouldn't be pushing for a change to the high-falutin', globe-trottin', city-slicker virus.


AtC posted about a reporter waiting for the disease to go widespread and hit Trumpland, at which time all his duped would abandon him. I don't think he realizes how much blame will be directed at the original sources, and presumed redistributors, of this illness.

Posted by: Downcast at March 29, 2020 06:43 AM (xgpfE)

66 I can hardly find active yeast as well. Are crackheads suddenly baking all across the nation?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 06:43 AM (fg6n8)

67 Texas

25,260 Test
2,052 Cases
27 Deaths

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 06:46 AM (JFO2v)

68 Well just logged in to report I am not showing up plus used some of my protected time off so I still get money for today and avoid collecting an absence point.

They now have COVID-19 as an option. I chose to stay away from that excuse.

Going to try and get some sleep. Again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:47 AM (lY631)

69 I can hardly find active yeast as well. Are crackheads suddenly baking all across the nation?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead

I think people found out you can get recipes online that let you cook food.

The internet, more then set your hair on fire stupidity!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 06:47 AM (vd8XM)

70 All I know is, when my time comes to need one, I do not want a General Motors ventilator.

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 06:47 AM (2BZBZ)

71 What other staples are hard to find? Besides ammunition and flour.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 06:48 AM (fg6n8)

72 All I know is, when my time comes to need one, I do not want a General Motors ventilator.
Posted by: JAS

They'll be a recall.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 06:48 AM (vd8XM)

73 Customer, "Why does this ventilator have air bags?"

General Motors, "Well you see... "

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:49 AM (lY631)

74 What other staples are hard to find? Besides ammunition and flour.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead

The other day, we couldn't find eggs.
I didn't look for flour.
They did have butter available again

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 06:49 AM (vd8XM)

75 I think people found out you can get recipes online that let you cook food.

The internet, more then set your hair on fire stupidity!
Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 06:47 AM (vd8XM)

There's plenty of frozen pizzas. I would have thought that would be the first to go.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 06:50 AM (fg6n8)

76 Good morning!

I've not been sleeping well since the Wuflu, what with not working, then the threat of hubby not working, etc. But the past two nights I've slept like the dead, right through some violent thunderstorms. It's so weird to feel so rested. I truly hope all non-sleepers get some good zzzs soon.
On the flour and yeast thingy. I bake for a living, so always have access to lots of flour, sugar and yeast, etc. But basically, yes, lots of people, esp people who're laid off and bored, are trying to learn to bake their own bread. It's a good skill to learn, for sure. I think the empty shelves really scared 'em. I've been talking some through the basic bread baking process, but it's hard to do without hands-on, side by side work.

Posted by: lizabth at March 29, 2020 06:50 AM (L3Rsz)

77 GM ventilators will be like Oskar Schindler's munitions. Never quite good enough to be useful. He did make a lot of money (LOL Deutchmarks) for a while.

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 06:50 AM (2BZBZ)

78
Brewer's yeast powder seems to be available.....


Amazon seems to have it. My mother used to use it all the time..Mostly for making her rolls which she sold.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 06:50 AM (VW+Vt)

79 "What other staples are hard to find? Besides ammunition and flour.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead
"

100% pure aloe.

91% rubbing alcohol

Frozen entree's.

Paper products.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:51 AM (O4024)

80 Schindler didn;t want the Nazis to win. He was the right kind of scoundrel.

General Motors is just a bunch of scoundrels.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 29, 2020 06:51 AM (lY631)

81 Raw ingredients have been a hard to find, dairy items here seems to be ok.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:52 AM (ZCEU2)

82 I've been talking some through the basic bread baking process, but it's hard to do without hands-on, side by side work.
Posted by: lizabth

I figured some teachable home schooling in how to make cookies etc too. The problem is, the kids will find out how much better the homemade stuff can taste and not want the sliceable frozen cookie log anymore

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 06:52 AM (vd8XM)

83 Alcohol and bleach have not to be seen sice the beginning

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:53 AM (ZCEU2)

84 I bought a Big Ass bag of yeast a few years ago and transferred it to mason jars and store in freezer. It seems to be none the worse for wear after letting it thaw a few days.

If you have some yeast - even a single packet - it seems to me a covered glazed crock or pot could be used to maintain a "roll yer own" supply by addding a little flour and sugar now and then. So long as it is bubbling and doing its thing.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (RtI0W)

85 True enough, Bruce. Esp if you use good butter in those cookies!

Posted by: lizabth at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (L3Rsz)

86 Good Morning Horde,

Mr. Spypeach has left once again to the front lines in search of toilet paper, it's been almost two weeks and we still have not found any. We are down to are 1 ply emergency reserves.

It's supposed to be a beautiful day today, so we are hoping to get the the local nursery, praying we won't be arrested for trying to buy plants out here in communist VA. Looking forward to starting yard work and doing some new landscaping. Then steak and shrimp on the barbie later

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (7R8A2)

87 Sleep well, Anna !

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 06:55 AM (arJlL)

88 Eggs were tough to find about a week ago, but that is better now. Stores are limiting many items. Still little to no cleaning/products. Can't find my one and only dish detergent that doesn't cause me a rash. Have about a week's worth left of that

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 06:55 AM (Z/jzm)

89 I really hate it when I do the "are" instead of "our" thing, I'm blaming it on not enough coffee.

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 06:56 AM (7R8A2)

90 In my day...In highschool the boys had to spend a day or two in the home ed room with the stoves, etc learning the basics. Of course the boys laughed at it and joked around. I think we made some cookies or something.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 06:57 AM (VW+Vt)

91 Common...nothing like a good sour starter. Or: one pound packet of SAF yeast from amazon plus plastic freezer bags plus freeezer and you don't have to worry about yeast for a long, long time.
How're you feeling this morning, Common?

Posted by: lizabth at March 29, 2020 06:57 AM (L3Rsz)

92 It's not the Woo-Flu.


So it's not a crisis.

https://cbsloc.al/2JlMR1c

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 06:58 AM (O4024)

93 mornin yall. Yard work wore me out yesterday so was asleep by 9:30 and slept like a log. Felt good to get a full 8 hours.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 06:58 AM (Tnijr)

94 >>It's supposed to be a beautiful day today, so we are hoping to get the the local nursery, praying we won't be arrested for trying to buy plants out here in communist VA.
Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (7R8A2)

Just saw an email from our local nursery. They are considered essential so are open, but urging online sales and pick up. They are even offering delivery in our zip code!

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 06:58 AM (Z/jzm)

95 Sleep sweet, Morons.

Many many visions of Nigella cooking in your heads.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 06:58 AM (oZuI0)

96 Morning Mouth Breathers


Ain't dead yet

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 29, 2020 06:58 AM (cknjq)

97 Flour is hard to find here, too

-==
Just a wild ass guess, but people under house arrest nowadays are bored so many do more baking than usual.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 29, 2020 06:59 AM (d6mdH)

98 Might be going to store soon, we can't need much but going to get a list a foot long no doubt. Wife is in panic mode if the next shoe drops on this apocalypse. I am convinced its a severity hoax that will get blow off soon enough.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:59 AM (ZCEU2)

99 All those bread machines in closets gathering dust are suddenly being put to use. That won't last.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at March 29, 2020 06:59 AM (Vf4Y7)

100 Good Morning Horde,



Mr. Spypeach has left once again to the front lines in search of
toilet paper, it's been almost two weeks and we still have not found
any. We are down to are 1 ply emergency reserves.



It's supposed to be a beautiful day today, so we are hoping to get
the the local nursery, praying we won't be arrested for trying to buy
plants out here in communist VA. Looking forward to starting yard work
and doing some new landscaping. Then steak and shrimp on the barbie
later

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (7R8A2)

Remind me where you are in VA.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (nRNOc)

101 "Just a wild ass guess, but people under house arrest nowadays are bored so many do more baking than usual."

Either that, or Joe Biden's secret paste recipe got leaked into the public domain.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (O4024)

102 In my day...In highschool the boys had to spend a day or two in the home ed room with the stoves, etc learning the basics. Of course the boys laughed at it and joked around. I think we made some cookies or something.
Posted by: Colin

We didn't have that. Mom had us help in the kitchen, and since I liked to eat, I didn't have a problem with that.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

103 Remind me where you are in VA.
Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (nRNOc)

We are in the Spotsy area

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (7R8A2)

104 83 Alcohol and bleach have not to be seen sice the beginning
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:53 AM (ZCEU2)

I picked up some bleach at a restaurant supply store along with a bag of active yeast and a few other things on Friday when I was in town for blood tests. Their small bags of flour were sold out. Didn't feel like I could handle a 50 pound bag.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:01 AM (fg6n8)

105 We are in the Spotsy area

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 07:00 AM (7R8A2)

If it gets really desperate and you're willing to drive north, I'll give you some rolls.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:02 AM (nRNOc)

106 Still. Alive. Morning Glory to all.


Posted by: azalea city at March 29, 2020 07:04 AM (WX+x0)

107 A few weeks ago when this all started, I ordered another one of those containers of emergency food which last 25 years.Back ordered and of course waiting...I tried some of the first containers products and not bad in an emergency. Reminded me when in the army we once got them in the field, once, to make sure we knew how to use them and probably to use some up.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 07:04 AM (VW+Vt)

108 >> and since I liked to eat, I didn't have a problem with that.
Posted by: Bruce

Having married a guy who couldn't cook to save his life, I vowed to make sure our kids would learn to cook (and bake!)

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:04 AM (Z/jzm)

109 If it gets really desperate and you're willing to drive north, I'll give you some rolls.
Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:02 AM (nRNOc)

Ahh, such love in this group, I'll let you know if things get desperate, we can do a drive by with the window open so you can toss the rolls in the car at a safe distance.

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 07:04 AM (7R8A2)

110 I would be surprised if Coburn, a highly respected physician, did not undergo the screening he and his doctor felt was appropriate. I know next to nothing about this subject other than once getting the enlarged prostate check that usually takes about 1 second.

But the other checks called PSA's are controversial in that they have pros and cons. Medical professionals debate when or if it appropriate and many claim it is not appropriate for certain people. I don't knowhy this is the case but it is.

As they say, ask your doctor.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:05 AM (hHxp2)

111 I tried some of the first containers products and not bad in an emergency. Reminded me when in the army we once got them in the field, once, to make sure we knew how to use them and probably to use some up.
Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 07:04 AM (VW+Vt)

I read some reviews on the packed prepper foods and one suggestion was to buy those Idahoan Instant Potato and Knox pasta meals instead. Price is around a buck fitty apiece. When I first moved out to the woods I bought $20 worth of each Just in case. Haven't touched them much.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:09 AM (fg6n8)

112 I would be surprised if Coburn, a highly respected
physician, did not undergo the screening he and his doctor felt was
appropriate. I know next to nothing about this subject other than once
getting the enlarged prostate check that usually takes about 1 second.

But
the other checks called PSA's are controversial in that they have pros
and cons. Medical professionals debate when or if it appropriate and
many claim it is not appropriate for certain people. I don't knowhy this
is the case but it is.

As they say, ask your doctor.


Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:05 AM (hHxp2)

He was first diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2011, had surgery, and there was a recurrence in 2013. That recurrence is what he'd been dealing with ever since. Not only that, he'd previously had colon cancer and melanoma.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:10 AM (nRNOc)

113 urologist's do better prostrate checks than your primary doctor. My primary doctor (she) doesn't like to do them and it shows. The urologist does it so quickly, better than having a bodybuilder lay on top of you with his d**k stuck in you, like the almost governor of Florida. If he was the bottom or top, not sure.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 07:10 AM (VW+Vt)

114 Having married a guy who couldn't cook to save his life, I vowed to make sure our kids would learn to cook (and bake!)
Posted by: My life is insanity

Mom was what we call a rough cook. Open the fridge, find some stuff, throw it together. It was almost always good.
I can follow recipes, and like doing plumbing or electrical around the house, I can also tell when it's beyond my skills

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:12 AM (vd8XM)

115 Lizabth: Thank you for asking. Very very much better this morning and past several days.

I prefer butter for making cookies, but it does kind of nuke the supply. So I've taken to using bacon grease for cookies. It doesn't seem to add an objectionable "bacony" flavor or anything like that. Regardless of shortening used I like to refrigerate cookie dough at least 24 hours.

This doesn't work well with small children. "We're gonna do what!?". CPS may get involved.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:12 AM (RtI0W)

116 Mr Feverhead that 50lb bag might have made you a few bucks parceling it out.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:14 AM (ZCEU2)

117 The ventilator deal. Had an inlaw breathlessly and a bit panic like explain that a family friend who sells them has orders they cannot fulfill. To her logic that means that the WuFlu is rampaging.
No, it means that hospital are panicking. Orders do no equate to people critically infected with the Chinese crud.
Cannot explain this, just get a look like I'm a denier. I give up.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 29, 2020 07:15 AM (C4hN7)

118 110 I would be surprised if Coburn, a highly respected physician, did not undergo the screening he and his doctor felt was appropriate. I know next to nothing about this subject other than once getting the enlarged prostate check that usually takes about 1 second.

But the other checks called PSA's are controversial in that they have pros and cons. Medical professionals debate when or if it appropriate and many claim it is not appropriate for certain people. I don't knowhy this is the case but it is.

As they say, ask your doctor.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:05 AM (hHxp2)

I had PSA on last test. <2. I think 5 is where they needs to grease up the finger.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 29, 2020 07:16 AM (JFO2v)

119 I haven't seen more than 10lb bags of flour in a long time. Since way before the panic buying. I used to buy 25 lb bags frequently back in my bread making days.

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:16 AM (Z/jzm)

120
First day of spring yard work yesterday. I love doing that sort of stuff. Nothing like being able to visually see evidence of your hard work.

Agree. Whacked and chopped around the sadly-neglected area around the pond out in the back forty yesterday. Hard work and I hurt afterwards but 1) it's a pleasure to see the transformation and 2) no sniping from the peanut gallery while I'm doing it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 07:16 AM (7rVsF)

121 I had PSA on last test.
Posted by: rhennigantx

You get grease?

My doc doesn't were gloves, old school. plus has a hangnail.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:17 AM (vd8XM)

122 And here we have a Democrap from a supposed red State (MS) who doesn't like making gun dealers 'essential'. Let's face, vote Democrap and lose your second amendment rights.

-

Yes, let's have this conversation.

My position is that anything specifically mentioned by name - none of this abortion and section 8 BS - in the Constitution is essential.

Your turn. Go.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:18 AM (41rs/)

123 Except for BBQ I never cooked until my wife took off a couple of years ago (thanks hun, you're a peach). In all fairness she never really cooked for the last 5 years either. After she left I found out I really enjoy cooking and can be pretty good at it. I can count on two hands the number of times I've eaten fast food since she ankled.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:18 AM (fg6n8)

124 powerlineblog.com/1984-comes-to-britain
https://tinyurl.com/u47wbhp

Short but frightening

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:18 AM (ZCEU2)

125
*shoves roll of Quilted Northern though USB for spypeach*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 07:18 AM (7rVsF)

126 "I had PSA on last test.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 50, with a PSA level never above 3.5.

But, a family history of it, and an enlarged prostate caused my Dr to order a full biopsy.

Which caught it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 07:19 AM (O4024)

127 I used to take MREs hiking. A little heavy compared with freeze-dried, but a whole lot less expensive, and way more calories. My criteria was less than $5 a meal delivered was a good price. What I ended up with after a while was a metric crapload of the pouch entrees that I didn't particularly care for or need. Freeze-dried has convenience and weight going for it, and not much else. Damnably expensive.

The military entrees are actually pretty good, in the sense that, they don't taste TOO good. This is important, because if something tastes good it will often get eaten in a non-emergency situation. For some time I looked at an improbably large stack of boxes and wondered if I should get rid of them. Not anymore! The "Wheat Snack Bread" is a similar thing. They taste awful, so they didn't get snacked on.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:20 AM (RtI0W)

128 After she left I found out I really enjoy cooking and can be pretty good at it. I can count on two hands the number of times I've eaten fast food since she ankled.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead

I'm amazed at anyone that can do it for a living.
I can't imagine getting the meal all prepared, dishing it up, and someone saying...I need three more of those!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:20 AM (vd8XM)

129 116 Mr Feverhead that 50lb bag might have made you a few bucks parceling it out.
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:14 AM (ZCEU2)

Yeah, I considered buying it and calling friends who bake but considering I'm being a hermit during my chemo I thought it would be too much work. I have most of a 5 lb bag left.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:21 AM (fg6n8)

130 Wife always has flour of some kind in the refrigerator, it does get prone to picking up pests from its source. The corn meal is there too, I use it for the pizza stone so I know.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:21 AM (ZCEU2)

131 Maybe the most important thing I ever post here:

Drinking pomegranate juice and eating a palm sized amount of broccoli every day will do wonders for those PSA numbers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:23 AM (41rs/)

132 You get grease?

My doc doesn't were gloves, old school. plus has a hangnail.
Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:17 AM

Bruce, you make me chuckle nearly every morning. Your sense of humor seems to be a morning riser. Thanks!

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 29, 2020 07:23 AM (4wSyT)

133 Freeze dried camping food requires water which in some cases when hiking you have to carry anyway. Might as well just carry some cans of ravioli in your pack.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 07:23 AM (Tnijr)

134 Here in Springfield IL, TP seems to have made a comeback -- I went to three different stores in the last week and they all had at least some toilet paper, although it was being rationed (no more than 1 or 2 packs per customer). Cleaning wipes and spray disinfectant, however, are still impossible to find. Milk, meat, egg and bread supplies vary depending on what day you go to the store and quantities are rationed (1 or 2 per customer only). No shortage of flour, though.

Posted by: Secret Square at March 29, 2020 07:24 AM (9WuX0)

135 We buy bulk cornmeal ground to the coarsness we use for polenta. Keeping it in the freezer helps. I've never stored flour in the freezer, is that a thing?

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:24 AM (Z/jzm)

136 I was in the big Walmart a few days ago. Lots of 70% isopropyl. Just a couple of 91%. No hydrogen peroxide. Why so picky?

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 07:25 AM (2BZBZ)

137 We've got a good sized patch of papyrus in the yard that I suppose we could harvest to make TP. Not that desperate yet though.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 07:25 AM (Tnijr)

138 "No hydrogen peroxide. Why so picky? "

My understanding was the in order for Hydrogen Peroxide to kill Wu-Flu, it had to be too strong for human skin to tolerate it.

And a strength that is not normally found in the civilian sector.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 07:27 AM (O4024)

139 When I first joined the Army the gave us C-Rats which transitioned to MREs by the time I finished Advance Individual Training. I still remember the chocolate cookies fused back to back on the wax paper. Buddy, you're eating wax paper if you want that cookie. The other thing was an entree called "Ham or Chicken Loaf" If you can't tell which animal it came from I'm not eating it.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:27 AM (fg6n8)

140 I've read that the homemade sanitizers should be at least 60% isopropyl . Mine says 91%

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:27 AM (Z/jzm)

141 Common...glad to hear you are feeling better! And bacon grease never hurt anyone..LOL!

Posted by: lizabth at March 29, 2020 07:27 AM (L3Rsz)

142 I had a funny dream this morning. I was in a lecture hall and Obama was giving a speech. I stood up and yelled "Shut up you fucking Communist." And he did. And he walked away. I expected a bullet but nope, I am still here.

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 07:28 AM (2BZBZ)

143 I had read that 70% is just fine.

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 07:29 AM (2BZBZ)

144 Pasta is another product that comes with its own pests. Bigger spaghetti will get these little creatures that eat down the center hollowing it out, my reason for only getting the thinnest kinds and if still there at least I can't see em'.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:29 AM (ZCEU2)

145 Mlii. Yes, you can freeze flour. I find that it develops lumps that can be easily broken up. If I'm using it for muffins or pancakes the lumps break down enough when stirring the ingredients, that it's not an issue. For everything else I sift the flour.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 29, 2020 07:30 AM (C4hN7)

146 It's my understanding that commercial flour has bugs (eggs) in it, no way around it.

Freezing it at time of purchase (below 0°) for about ten days seems to kill the critters, and at that point can be stored in the pantry. I still keep it sealed up to prevent it picking up off flavors. Flour tends to get better with a little bit of aging, iirc.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:30 AM (RtI0W)

147 But the other checks called PSA's are controversial in that they have pros and cons. Medical professionals debate when or if it appropriate and many claim it is not appropriate for certain people. I don't knowhy this is the case but it is.

As they say, ask your doctor.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:05 AM (hHxp2)

My husband had a psa test every year during his annual doctors visit, and the GP notice a small increase in PSA over several years, it was still low but increasing. He was in his mid/late 40's, no family history, but GP said he should go get it checked out. Sure enough he had prostate cancer, some places stage one and other places stage 2. He had his prostate removed and has been cancer free for about 5 years.

Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 07:30 AM (7R8A2)

148 I talked to my sister yesterday.
They are in a small 2 bedroom condo in Florida for another month. They are SIP and he won't even go out golfing, which at this point they still are allowed to do.
I guess after 42 years of being married to an a-hole, she's finding out why the rest of us avoid him....plus he watches MSM 24 hours a day at ear bleed levels

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:31 AM (vd8XM)

149 JAS can I share that dream from you?

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:31 AM (ZCEU2)

150 I'm very pro beanie weenies. Also Vienna (rhymes with hyena) sausages and saltine crackers.

Anything good for a day of fishing generally translates well to the Burning Times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:31 AM (41rs/)

151 We buy bulk cornmeal ground to the coarsness we use
for polenta. Keeping it in the freezer helps. I've never stored flour
in the freezer, is that a thing?

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:24 AM (Z/jzm)

I had some flour a while back that had a bug/weevil in it. I checked the internets and someone said if you freeze it even for a while, that will not happen. So I have kept flour in the freezer for a few days and then I leave it out.

My big freezer thing now is bread. It might be the type of bread I use but the stuff is great out of the freezer. Put a few slices in the toaster and it is as good as it ever was. My bread is one of those so called healthy versions, Dave's Good Seed blah blah.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:31 AM (hHxp2)

152 and that "healthy" stuff will mold on you pretty quickly. A couple of weeks and it will be a goner.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:32 AM (hHxp2)

153 139 There are companies that replicate c rations. I don't know how close they are to what we had, but, looking back, I never had a complaint with any of the varieties. Some,if given a chance, I'd trade for something else, but I would eat them with no problem. I'm sure the replicas don't have the cigarettes and worthless matches in the sundry pack.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (C1Lsn)

154 Quint. That's funny. I just took my last 2 slices of Dave's out of the freezer and toasted it for a breakfast sandwich. Haven't had any available here in SW Oh since the panic started.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (C4hN7)

155 No .. it was "Ham and Chicken Loaf" lol.

The "Beans In Tomato Sauce" was a winner, too. They were sort of tasty. Sort of. But, the packet had a cryptic warning that none of the other meals had - "Not For InFlight/PreFlight Use". I won't explain why, you don't want to know.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (RtI0W)

156 Well off to my scavenger hunt, first stop donut shop to see if still open, website says it is so will see. Then grocery store so will report back as soon as I can

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 07:35 AM (ZCEU2)

157 I unfortunately have a freezer so small I couldn't even fit Jim Acosta's head in it* and it is full of pork, beef, and chicken.



* If I were inclined to do such a thing.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:35 AM (fg6n8)

158 I used to take MREs hiking. A little heavy compared
with freeze-dried, but a whole lot less expensive, and way more
calories. My criteria was less than $5 a meal delivered was a good
price. What I ended up with after a while was a metric crapload of the
pouch entrees that I didn't particularly care for or need. Freeze-dried
has convenience and weight going for it, and not much else. Damnably
expensive.


Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:20 AM (RtI0W)

From what I've seen of the Joe and Jane Averages who buy freeze-dried pouches for emergencies, they fall into four categories:
1) They buy a bucket or big box or two of the stuff, not necessarily caring what exactly is in it, and smugly sit back knowing they're "prepared";

2) They buy a bucket or big box of the stuff, try some of it, and hate it, but it's too late to send back so they're stuck with it. Or they discover the "servings" are sometimes not that big;

3) They don't realize how much water is required to reconstitute these things, especially if everything they bought is in 4-serving pouches and they're reconstituting a pouch all at once; or

4) They taste-tested individual pouches before they bought more and even though it may cost more to buy individually, they bought what they would actually eat.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 07:35 AM (nRNOc)

159 InFlight/PreFlight Use". I won't explain why, you don't want to know.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (RtI0W)


I swear he first lots said "or". Besides ham "and" chicken loaf is also known as factory floor sweepings.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:37 AM (fg6n8)

160 " I had read that 70% is just fine."

70% is fine.

BUT.... be careful with the addition of anything which will reduce that percentage, such as aloe vera for moisturizing.

The final product needs to be above 60% pure alcohol.

Which is why using the 91% to begin with is mathematically very easy.

2 parts alcohol to 1 part Aloe Vera gives you right at 60% pure alcohol for a finished product.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 07:38 AM (O4024)

161 How tough is it to make Saltines? Or that gourmet of gourmet gustatory delight - Cheese-Its? Can't be too tough can it?

On another board someone allowed they spied someones panic supplies in a neighbors garage. A huge pallet of Cheese-It crackers. Hm.

Gonna be more people die of metabolic syndrome and Diabetes than the chicom wu-flu before this is over.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:38 AM (RtI0W)

162 neverenoughcaffeine, thanks. Sifting is easy enough.

I have been freezing bread forever. Fresh baked and store bought. I admit it, I'm a bread-aholic

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:39 AM (Z/jzm)

163 Nurse in a Twitchy article. Safe, no meep meep
https://tinyurl.com/vhhoja8

Posted by: FrodoB, because at March 29, 2020 07:39 AM (dQF3z)

164 No .. it was "Ham and Chicken Loaf" lol.



The "Beans In Tomato Sauce" was a winner, too. They were sort of
tasty. Sort of. But, the packet had a cryptic warning that none of the
other meals had - "Not For InFlight/PreFlight Use". I won't explain why,
you don't want to know.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (RtI0W)

dehydrated pork patty was the worst. I don't don't recall all these fancy heat tabs they have now. It was tepid canteen water and still it came off in bricks. I think the vienna sausages were ok and some liked chichen a la king. Really, they all sucked.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:39 AM (hHxp2)

165 On another board someone allowed they spied someones panic supplies in a neighbors garage. A huge pallet of Cheese-It crackers. Hm.


Maybe it's bait for vermin.
I got a recipe for that!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:39 AM (vd8XM)

166 "Loaf" ain't groceries.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 07:40 AM (RuIsu)

167 I had Vietnam C rats that I found once hunting on a military base. These things were are good 20 years old. It was some type of beef stew and it was way better than the MRE's of the 80s.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:41 AM (hHxp2)

168 There's a recipe and baking instructions on line for making authentic "army bread" aka hardtack. It's for the civil war reenactment crowd. The usual ration for a Union soldier was hardtack, bacon, coffee, and some sugar if lucky. Confederate soldiers could only dream of such luxury.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 07:42 AM (C1Lsn)

169 >>The final product needs to be above 60% pure alcohol.

Which is why using the 91% to begin with is mathematically very easy.

2 parts alcohol to 1 part Aloe Vera gives you right at 60% pure alcohol for a finished product.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 07:38 AM (O4024)

That's the proportion I saw. So my 91% will be good. I have to make some to replenish what we have at point of sale for customers to use.

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 07:42 AM (Z/jzm)

170 So when I got to my first duty station this 8 year E4 asked me what it said on his MRE cheese. I said "Knead before opening." He says "Of course I'm going to need it before I open it. Dumb@sses!"

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:42 AM (fg6n8)

171 On another board someone allowed they spied someones
panic supplies in a neighbors garage. A huge pallet of Cheese-It
crackers. Hm.





Maybe it's bait for vermin.

I got a recipe for that!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:39 AM (vd8XM)

Cheez its are pretty good. If I were in survivial mode I would a bunch of packages of hot dogs. Sure it is not fine living but you can freeze them or whatever. You can make pasta, blend them with this or that and at least you can survive on them.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:43 AM (hHxp2)

172 I would agree they sucked. But, the freeze-dried pork patty is one item with a practically unlimited shelf life.

One thing I've noticed is the modern rations sometimes don't use oils or fats that are shelf stable. Canola oil is cheap, but it quickly reverts to paint, or varnish as it oxidizes. Open a packet of cookies, and prepare to gag. They are inedible. Even commercial varieties of Peanut Butter fall prey to this.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:43 AM (RtI0W)

173 Staying at home and going to watch church being live streamed.
Sitting in pjs watching online just wont be the same as being with my friends. It will feel more like hanging out with y'all only with cleaner language.

Posted by: ALH at March 29, 2020 07:43 AM (NP5PC)

174 Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:34 AM (RtI0W)

dehydrated pork patty was the worst.


I second that! Although you could use the patty to sand the bunions off your feet.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:45 AM (fg6n8)

175 I'm a broken record, but I like canned green beans, peas and carrots, and similar canned vegetables for the end times. You won't be happy but you won't starve, and they're packed in water that you can also use.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:45 AM (41rs/)

176
I would agree they sucked. But, the freeze-dried pork patty is one item with a practically unlimited shelf life.



One thing I've noticed is the modern rations sometimes don't use
oils or fats that are shelf stable. Canola oil is cheap, but it quickly
reverts to paint, or varnish as it oxidizes. Open a packet of cookies,
and prepare to gag. They are inedible. Even commercial varieties of
Peanut Butter fall prey to this.





Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:43 AM (RtI0W)

that makes sense. They probably made them to last and then when the troops complained, and they did, they made new stuff. Someone mentioned the saltines. Well the cheese that came with it tasted nothing like cheese. It was probably made to last a few decades if needed.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:46 AM (hHxp2)

177 Top o the morning y'all!

It was a good day yesterday. I had the pleasure of meeting Mr and Mrs VIA here in Summerville SC. They were in the neighborhood and stopped by my job for a few minutes.

Today is the last day for a while. TPTB decided to halt all construction immediately. So it looks like I'm getting an involuntary four week vacation. Just closing out what I can, making everything safe for customers. Still have five weeks of actual work left on this project.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 29, 2020 07:46 AM (qeU1j)

178 Cheez its are pretty good.

Posted by: Quint

My wife likes them. I'm just thinking that a pallet load in your garage is going to attract a lot of interest from critters.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:47 AM (vd8XM)

179 Beef Stew manufacturers long ago stopped using stew meat. This is almost criminal, in my opinion.

Somewhere along the way, "Meat Glue" was discovered. So floor sweepings were pressed together into "chunks" that no amount of simmering will render into tender beef. Ever.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:47 AM (RtI0W)

180 Holy cow, I'd forgotten about the pickle loaf we used to be fed so much as a kid. I'll have to look for that, because I remember not minding when it was in my bagged lunch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:49 AM (41rs/)

181 176 As far as field rations, one thing the Germans had in WW2 that was prized by American GI's was a cheese spread. The stuff came in a toothpaste tube and was reported to be very good.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 07:49 AM (C1Lsn)

182 Somewhere along the way, "Meat Glue" was discovered. So floor sweepings were pressed together into "chunks" that no amount of simmering will render into tender beef. Ever.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 07:47 AM (RtI0W)


Thus the invention of the McRib. I could never force myself to try one and I've eaten bugs.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:49 AM (fg6n8)

183 Somewhere along the way, "Meat Glue" was discovered. So floor sweepings were pressed together into "chunks" that no amount of simmering will render into tender beef. Ever.
Posted by: Common Tater

The Chinese (am I allowed to say that?) restaurant in town has gone to meat glue sliced beef and sliced pork for some of their dishes.
I quit ordering that crud

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:50 AM (vd8XM)

184 Thus the invention of the McRib. I could never force myself to try one and I've eaten bugs.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead

I tried a McRib once when they first came out.
I did not like at all

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:51 AM (vd8XM)

185 Cheez its are pretty good.



Posted by: Quint



My wife likes them. I'm just thinking that a pallet load in your garage is going to attract a lot of interest from critters.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:47 AM (vd8XM)

yeah, I see your point.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:52 AM (hHxp2)

186 had Vietnam C rats that I found once hunting on a military base. These things were are good 20 years old. It was some type of beef stew and it was way better than the MRE's of the 80s.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:41 AM (hHxp2)


Back in the late 70's, I got trapped at our remote radar site during a snow storm. Poking around in the closet, I found some C-Rats that must have been saved from the Korean unpleasantness. Crackers is crackers...and each ration also came with a small pack of cigarettes. Either Lucky Strikes or Chesterfields.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 29, 2020 07:52 AM (qeU1j)

187 The McRib! More pressed meat than a gay dance club.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 07:52 AM (fg6n8)

188 >>Cuomo threatening to sue over Rhode Island harassing New Yorkers fleeing the KoronaKrap to Rhode Island.


Translation: Cuomo suing RI so that his rich friends/campaign donors who have vacation homes in RI can go there to get away from the icky riffraff and enjoy ocean views instead of quarantine themselves in The City.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 07:54 AM (bDqIh)

189 185 The best way to keep critters large and small away from Cheez its is to place a couple opened cans of potted meat around them. They wont touch the potted meat and the smell will drive them away.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 07:55 AM (C1Lsn)

190 Thus the invention of the McRib. I could never force myself to try one and I've eaten bugs.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead



I tried a McRib once when they first came out.

I did not like at all



Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:51 AM (vd8XM)

I remember it being better. I think time does that but the last one i had was made so sloppily and they didn't even have a McRib box for it.

Sure it is part nostalgia. But I miss the McDlt. Hot MCD and cool fresh lt. And the other thing I miss is not nostalgia at all but scientific fact. The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome. That garbage they sell now is disgusting. I bet they don't sell even 1/4 of many pies as they did in the 80s.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:55 AM (hHxp2)

191 Go ahead Fredo, sue

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 07:56 AM (NVYyb)

192 I saw a mcrib once and couldn't figure out why they had made the bone grooves, nor why they were darkened accordingly.

Don't misunderstand. I eat Vienna sausages and pork rinds. But the aesthetics of the sandwich puzzle me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 07:56 AM (41rs/)

193 Back in the late 70's, I got trapped at our remote
radar site during a snow storm. Poking around in the closet, I found
some C-Rats that must have been saved from the Korean unpleasantness.
Crackers is crackers...and each ration also came with a small pack of
cigarettes. Either Lucky Strikes or Chesterfields.

Posted by: Traveling Man at March 29, 2020 07:52 AM (qeU1j)

and no warning label so safe to use

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:57 AM (hHxp2)

194 The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome.

They were. Bite into them and burn your mouth good.
I haven't had one in probably 40 years. Someone on this site mentioned they are now baked, instead of being lovingly prepared in hot oil.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:57 AM (vd8XM)

195 The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome.



They were. Bite into them and burn your mouth good.

I haven't had one in probably 40 years. Someone on this site
mentioned they are now baked, instead of being lovingly prepared in hot
oil.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:57 AM (vd8XM)

they are, and they suck.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 07:58 AM (hHxp2)

196 ??On another board someone allowed they spied someones panic supplies in a neighbors garage. A huge pallet of Cheese-It crackers. Hm.


Yeah, they must have kids. My son can't get enough of those.

Also: hot pockets (gag). We make homemade pizza, for which I have stocked up all the ingredients, but the kid still loves to heat up hot pockets ~ midnight to pig out.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:00 AM (bDqIh)

197 McDonald's french fries and pies were great because of the beef tallow used in the fryer. Somebody just had to bitch that their cholesterol was up 5 points.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:00 AM (C1Lsn)

198 McRib? Eh, after growing up eating spam, onions and fried potatoes cooked in a skillet once a week - McRib is a luxury.

Posted by: rammajamma at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (SwWMX)

199 Pandemia, day 10. My wife likes to play golf but we received an email saying the governor ordered golf courses closed. Fines for the club and the member if they find you on the course. Very odd. Its a pretty solitary game, and entirely outdoors. "Public health" seems to grant some strange powers to governors, or so they think.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (NVYyb)

200 The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome. That garbage they sell now is disgusting

-

We talked about it a couple of weeks ago and, after a bit of research, discovered that the multibillion dollar switch to get rid of transfats and make everything taste worse potentially reduced heart disease, stroke, etc deaths by some laughably small number. Something like 100 fewer total deaths by predisposed people each year.

Yay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (41rs/)

201 Also: hot pockets (gag). We make homemade pizza, for
which I have stocked up all the ingredients, but the kid still loves to
heat up hot pockets ~ midnight to pig out.





Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:00 AM (bDqIh)

tell him to check out Jim Gaffigan's Hot Pockets set on youtube. It is pretty funny.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (hHxp2)

202 The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome.

They were. Bite into them and burn your mouth good.
I haven't had one in probably 40 years. Someone on this site mentioned they are now baked, instead of being lovingly prepared in hot oil.
Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 07:57 AM (vd8XM


I assume you're talking about those greasy looking fried pies. A lot of the mom and pop restaurants where we live, still sell them. Some local fries them up at home and brings them in. They're usually sitting in a box at the cash register counter.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 29, 2020 08:02 AM (qeU1j)

203 In my day...In highschool the boys had to spend a day or two in the home ed room with the stoves, etc learning the basics. Of course the boys laughed at it and joked around. I think we made some cookies or something.
Posted by: Colin

I seem to remember a quarter semester in Home Ec and a quarter semester in sewing. I think it was 8th grade. I thought it was a waste of time then. Of course, 7-8 years later I had the ability to sew stripes on my uniforms, so I guess it WAS worthwhile.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 29, 2020 08:03 AM (wzzJf)

204 tell him to check out Jim Gaffigan's Hot Pockets set on youtube. It is pretty funny.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (hHxp2)

Caliente pockets!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 08:03 AM (6ofTb)

205 We ordered a pizza delivered last night. The pizza place is doing a no contact delivery service.
I thought that's a little overkill as usually the driver hands me a box, and I hand him money. No actual touching takes place
What they mean is, they set my order on the porch, and then call me from the driveway that my order is there.

Seems weird. The problem is, when I ordered it online using a credit card. When it came to how much to tip the driver I went with zero. Because when we do use a credit card at a restaurant we tip in cash anyway.
The driver asked about that, so now I have to get a hold of the restaurant to charge a tip to this guy somehow.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:04 AM (vd8XM)

206 The old fried cherry and apple pies were awesome. That garbage they sell now is disgusting



-



We talked about it a couple of weeks ago and, after a bit of
research, discovered that the multibillion dollar switch to get rid of
transfats and make everything taste worse potentially reduced heart
disease, stroke, etc deaths by some laughably small number. Something
like 100 fewer total deaths by predisposed people each year.



Yay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (41rs/)

they got woke and it cost them. Bill Burr does a set on this. At some point Mcdonalds started blaming themselves. They are business and if they sell food people don't want, well that will not be good for them. I also remember the Mclean. It is not last very long because it was terrible.

I have heard most Mcds abroad, or at least a lot of them, sell the fried pies. So we invented the thing, but we can't get it.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:04 AM (hHxp2)

207 Wish I could do some yard work this weekend.

Pretty much washed out 2 days running.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:04 AM (B95HO)

208 Heh, yes, Gaffigan's hot pockets bit but is funny! I always sing "Hooooooot pockets!" now instead of just saying it.


Re: fastfood pies -- check out Taco Bell "caramel apple empanadas". Think those are still deep fried? My teen with the iron stomach sometimes gets those.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:05 AM (bDqIh)

209 WP: Joe Biden is working from home like many Americans....

OK, sounds like a winner to me.../sarc

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 08:05 AM (VW+Vt)

210 Something like 100 fewer total deaths by predisposed people each year.
Yay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 08:01 AM (41rs/)


Comrade, if we can control all your lives to save just one life, it is all worth it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:07 AM (BiNEL)

211 Also: hot pockets (gag). We make homemade pizza, for which I have stocked up all the ingredients, but the kid still loves to heat up hot pockets ~ midnight to pig out.

Posted by: Lizzy

I got them for a fishing trip with the guys at a house on the lake. We figured a quick hot breakfast while we were getting the coffee and cooler ready.
The breakfast ones were weird. We tried the lunch/dinner ones too. Never bought them again

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:07 AM (vd8XM)

212 We stopped at a Hardee's for lunch yesterday. The sourdough burger is still pretty darned good. Better than that McD's shit, anyway.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (B95HO)

213 Beautiful sunrise this morning. I'm loving the early spring.

Last night I watched "Red Dawn" (the one and only, there is no other) and one thing that made me laugh was how long it took the locals to get organized and resist.

Fast-forward to the present day. Northern Michigan hosts an annual set of military exercises and NATO partners participate. They had to spend *weeks* saturating local media so that the locals wouldn't open fire on the visiting allies from Poland, etc. while they jaunted around town.

Those Cuban paratroopers would have been mowed down on the DZ.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (cfSRQ)

214 This will be a tough financial week for most people. First of the month. What happens to those who do not pay mortgage?

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (tjqz9)

215 Wish I could do some yard work this weekend.
Pretty much washed out 2 days running.
Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:04 AM (B95HO)


Glad I did a quick lawnmower pass in the front yard Friday afternoon. Turned out it was longer than I had thought.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (BiNEL)

216 Morning all..

For something completely different.

Sicilian twins play Coldplay on their violins.

https://tinyurl.com/vcsvddu

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 08:09 AM (cF8AT)

217 >>We tried the lunch/dinner ones too. Never bought them again


It's the sauce, I think? Or maybe that they cover the outside in garlic salt to hide the cardboard-y dough's lack of flavor? The stink up the house.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:10 AM (bDqIh)

218 Seems weird. The problem is, when I ordered it
online using a credit card. When it came to how much to tip the driver I
went with zero. Because when we do use a credit card at a restaurant we
tip in cash anyway.

The driver asked about that, so now I have to get a hold of the restaurant to charge a tip to this guy somehow.





Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:04 AM (vd8XM)
---
I set the tip out on the porch in a plastic bag, secured by a rock before they arrive. I like it more than the awkward greeting so I think this is the rule for me from now on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:10 AM (cfSRQ)

219 213. Red Dawn is great. Commies stopped any resistance by getting the gun registry at the local gun shop. They were all arrested and put into that camp.

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:11 AM (tjqz9)

220 The governor's first wife's boyfriend/girlfriend was her golf coach?

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:11 AM (RuIsu)

221 214 This will be a tough financial week for most people. First of the month. What happens to those who do not pay mortgage?
Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (tjqz9)

The lockdown governors love it. This is an opportunity to them, when constituents NEED Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:11 AM (B95HO)

222 I set the tip out on the porch in a plastic bag, secured by a rock before they arrive. I like it more than the awkward greeting so I think this is the rule for me from now on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed

What I should have done. I told him to come to the door and I'd hand him the tip.
He's not allowed to do that. I should have looked out to see if he was driving in a quarantine outfit

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:12 AM (vd8XM)

223
Heh, yes, Gaffigan's hot pockets bit but is funny! I always sing "Hooooooot pockets!" now instead of just saying it.





Re: fastfood pies -- check out Taco Bell "caramel apple empanadas".
Think those are still deep fried? My teen with the iron stomach
sometimes gets those.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:05 AM (bDqIh)

I think Popeye's is fried as well. For some reason it is not the same. People hate it when something is taken away form them for no good reason. There was something about those pies. Yest they were lava hot but they were good. Now you can't even get a sundae with nuts at Mcdonalds. It is subtraction by subtraction. The lawyers and PR types tell them what to stop making and they do. We all accept it these days because of course we do.

My least favorite term is "you can't do that in 20--". That means something different to me than it does to some others I think.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:12 AM (hHxp2)

224 Glad I did a quick lawnmower pass in the front yard Friday afternoon. Turned out it was longer than I had thought.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (BiNEL)

---
My mower just got back from its annual tune-up. Looking at the grass, not a moment too soon!

Of course I need a few days of dry weather before I can take it in the back yard...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:12 AM (cfSRQ)

225 Good to see the insects coming back. They eat the virus i believe, along with humidity and sunlight

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:13 AM (tjqz9)

226 Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 08:09 AM (cF8AT)

Thanks
forwarded to my son for my grandsons to look at!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:13 AM (BiNEL)

227 I read a speech given some years ago by a cardiologist.

Basically, heart disease sucks. It's hereditary to some degree. If you're prone to it, runs in the family, it doesn't matter much what you do. Or don't do. Smoking is not healthy, but it is those with heart disease that are most at risk.

I would think shareholders would have somewhat of a ... beef.. with McDonalds. Their french fries are almost inedible now. How do ya fvck up a spud? There was no reason for this. At the time I recall mumblings about offending Hindus.

WTF is a Hindu eating at McDs in the first place was never explained. Further, who cares what they think, when you get right down to it. I think it was a matter of cheaping out. Fryer oil is expensive.

Same thing with the delivery Pizza. Disgusting anymore, never very good - though it was tasty. Now all of it tastes like ass, and is damnably expensive. Amazing, maybe there will be a renaissance in home cooking.

I wish there was some way to save the mom and pop restaurants, and kill off the corporate chains? I mean, all things being equal. They suck.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 08:14 AM (RtI0W)

228 Glad I did a quick lawnmower pass in the front yard Friday afternoon. Turned out it was longer than I had thought.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:08 AM (BiNEL)

I cut the grass last Saturday afternoon and it's in need of another shave already. Jumping.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:14 AM (B95HO)

229 Could you imagine if this virus spread in america in early december. Cold and dark at 4pm. No walking outside

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:14 AM (tjqz9)

230 Red Dawn is great. Commies stopped any resistance
by getting the gun registry at the local gun shop. They were all
arrested and put into that camp.

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:11 AM (tjqz9)

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I thought that part was dumb. I got the point, but when literal commies are raining down on you and you've got guns, what are you freaking waiting for?

And this is supposed to be out west, and presumably there are lots of military veterans around. The teacher even notes that the paratroopers are way off course, implying that there's a base somewhere not that far away.

The film is fun, I take it for what it is and it's definitely a product of the 80s, but it does have some issues.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:15 AM (cfSRQ)

231 The urologist does it so quickly, better than having a bodybuilder lay on top of you with his d**k stuck in you, like the almost governor of Florida. If he was the bottom or top, not sure.
Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 07:10 AM

Colin, I'll take your word on it.

Posted by: clutch at March 29, 2020 08:15 AM (9UmRs)

232 Cuomo threatening to sue over Rhode Island harassing New Yorkers fleeing the KoronaKrap to Rhode Island.


https://tinyurl.com/tame26b
Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2020 06:02 AM (mpXpK)



He should sue. Get as much PR as he can every day. On the hour national news updates.

And remind everybody in the country that the Impeach Trump fiasco was purely a NY / Cali op which drowned out news in the early days of this disease taking over NYC.... Which is probably why NY did the impeach thing in the first place.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 29, 2020 08:16 AM (1g7ch)

233 Here's a very sensible aticle from AT avout The Virus That Ate the World:

https://tinyurl.com/qv7hcdk

Posted by: Caliban at March 29, 2020 08:16 AM (QE8X6)

234 Morning all.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2020 08:16 AM (qr+6s)

235 Morning, all. Someone let ace know that the Reno 911 episode in the sidebar was new in April 2009.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 29, 2020 08:16 AM (DTX3h)

236 My least favorite term is "you can't do that in 20--". That means something different to me than it does to some others I think.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:12 AM (hHxp2)


Comrade Quint, lawyers, regulations and the threat of financial ruin by government bureaucrats controlling essentially infinite prosecutorial resources are powerful motivators to shape your daily behavior!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:16 AM (BiNEL)

237 221. So much easy to govern when nobody can assemble and protest etc.. keeps the masses down for now. Another month of lockdown in the cities will start riots

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (tjqz9)

238 >>For some reason it is not the same. People hate it when something is taken away form them for no good reason. There was something about those pies.


Yup. Also silly when you consider how many calories/sugar is in one of those Starbucks sundae-like drinks - the Frappaachino (or whatever). So a little fried pie is a sin, but as syrupy near-ice cream sundae masquerading as a coffee is totally cool. Sure. *obscene hand gesture*

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (bDqIh)

239 Gaffigan's Easter bit is also good. In our house if someone says something doesn't make sense, someone else always answers with, "don't worry, there's a bunny."

https://preview.tinyurl.com/utrsx66

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (6ofTb)

240 Same thing with the delivery Pizza. Disgusting
anymore, never very good - though it was tasty. Now all of it tastes
like ass, and is damnably expensive. Amazing, maybe there will be a
renaissance in home cooking.



I wish there was some way to save the mom and pop restaurants, and
kill off the corporate chains? I mean, all things being equal. They
suck.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 08:14 AM (RtI0W)

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The original Dominos ("30 minutes or free!") was indistinguishable from the cardboard. The newer version is decent. YMMV.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (cfSRQ)

241 Could you imagine if this virus spread in america in early december.

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I bet it started here then. When the medical history is written I bet we find lots of early cases went undiagnosed in NYC Chinatown enclaves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (NVYyb)

242 "Good to see the insects coming back. "


not so is here?

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 08:18 AM (Tnijr)

243 Yup. Also silly when you consider how many
calories/sugar is in one of those Starbucks sundae-like drinks - the
Frappaachino (or whatever). So a little fried pie is a sin, but as
syrupy near-ice cream sundae masquerading as a coffee is totally cool.
Sure. *obscene hand gesture*





Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (bDqIh)

heh, We think the same on this one. I have always said SBUX is a sugar pusher first and caffeine second. It is a great one two punch but the sugar is the one seed.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (hHxp2)

244
Now you can't even get a sundae with nuts at Mcdonalds. It is subtraction by subtraction. The lawyers and PR types tell them what to stop making and they do. We all accept it these days because of course we do.

Anything good gets hoovered up by some soulless conglomerate that always does the same thing: betray founding principles, cut costs, remove what made the brand distinctive, suck the life out of it and go bankrupt.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (7rVsF)

245 Good morning!

Spent yesterday afternoon doing field day around the upstairs area, and then went to the store to get cleaner for the shower glass.

WTAF?! Where the seafood case had previously been empty, there was fresh salmon, grouper, shrimp and some trout! Gonna be grilling today!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (Xesvh)

246 Re: Red Dawn

Notice that the commies didn't air drop in to "Roadhouse".

That would have been a good movie.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (RuIsu)

247 O also: the overloaded donut trend, such as those at Voodoo Donuts. OK. it's more "cool" than a McD's pie, but don't tell me it's not twice as bad for my health.

https://www.voodoodoughnut.com/

*It's like the cognitive dissonance of: cigarettes are bad, pot is totally cool. Just admit that smoking is OK when it's your leaf of choice.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 08:20 AM (bDqIh)

248 I wish there was some way to save the mom and pop
restaurants, and kill off the corporate chains? I mean, all things being
equal. They suck.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 29, 2020 08:14 AM (RtI0W)

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I should add that we prefer the local joints to the chains, so that's where our money goes for the most part.

We ordered in last week and will probably do so again just to help keep the places afloat. On the plus side, when I called my order in they had to put me on hold because so many calls were coming in. So that's a good thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:20 AM (cfSRQ)

249 Sadly, Cities will be on fire if they keep the lockdown going past April. I can see the young people in my area getting restless already.

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:21 AM (tjqz9)

250 Anything good gets hoovered up by some soulless conglomerate that always does the same thing: betray founding principles, cut costs, remove what made the brand distinctive, suck the life out of it and go bankrupt.
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True. Lots of examples of this.

Posted by: Walt Disney at March 29, 2020 08:21 AM (NVYyb)

251
So what are the chances that NYC and its resident Gothamites will come out of this saying, "After this harrowing experience maybe we should show some humility and gratitude to the rest of the country"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 08:21 AM (7rVsF)

252 I bet it started here then. When the medical history is written I bet we find lots of early cases went undiagnosed in NYC Chinatown enclaves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (NVYyb)


Anecdotally, I think here, and personally, I have heard a lot of people (including myself) that had something in the late December to early February time-frame that laid them pretty low.

But we will never ever get statistics from any Chinatown in the USA.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:22 AM (BiNEL)

253 Fox just showed a picture of their next guest, retired SEAL Jocko Willink. That guy looks like somebody who has a Mosler safe with a couple souvenir human heads in it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:22 AM (C1Lsn)

254 The original Dominos ("30 minutes or free!") was indistinguishable from the cardboard. The newer version is decent. YMMV.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (cfSRQ)

I recall it the other way around but to be fair, I don't have any way of going back. It probably was terrible but we were young and hungry. The company Dominos is killing really, or they were. But when I have there pizza I never plan to get it again. I probably have DPZ one or twice a year.

The one that really fell of for me was Pizza Hut. When we were kids, that was good pizza, particularly the pan pizza. Sure some of it was nostalgia and going to those huts, eating the pizza, the salad bar, and just having fun. But now Pizza Hut mostly makes stunt pizzas and doesn't even make claims about quality.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (hHxp2)

255 So what are the chances that NYC and its resident Gothamites will come out of this saying, "After this harrowing experience maybe we should show some humility and gratitude to the rest of the country"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 08:21 AM (7rVsF)


Thanks Hadrian, I needed a good laugh this morning!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (BiNEL)

256 I'm impressed the young people haven't already started demanding more of a social life. Must be driving them nuts.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (NVYyb)

257 Thanks
forwarded to my son for my grandsons to look at!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:13 AM (BiNEL)

You're welcome!

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (cF8AT)

258 The scene in Red Dawn where Swayze can't shoot the traitor and Howell just blows him away was probably designed to show how good and evil develop in war - I just thought C Thomas Howell should have been the leader of the Wolverines..

Posted by: rammajamma at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (y1gYQ)

259 241. True my friend.

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (tjqz9)

260 214 This will be a tough financial week for most people. First of the month. What happens to those who do not pay mortgage?
___________________

Some of the banks are sending out e-mails saying that they will work with you if you can't make a mortgage payment or a car payment or whatever, due to China virus layoffs. I've gotten a couple of those in the past few weeks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 29, 2020 08:24 AM (k4dH2)

261 buongiorna orda

virus stats from PA

tested 25,254
positive 2751
hospitalized 314
dead 34

it's around 10-11% for each - around 10% tested (because they have symptoms) are positive, 11% of positive get hospitalized, 10% of the hospitalized die

from pa doh site

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:24 AM (G546f)

262 Speaking of prostate exams, go to Y0uTube and search for "prostate exam" and "movie Road Trip". Of course, that isn't really a standard diagnostic prostate exam.

Posted by: fenderbender at March 29, 2020 08:24 AM (r72iY)

263 Anecdotally, I think here, and personally, I have heard a lot of people (including myself) that had something in the late December to early February time-frame that laid them pretty low.

-

Yep.

Super contagious that tore through a major Chinese international trade city in November.

Super contagious and reached the US two weeks ago.

They can't both be true.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (41rs/)

264 Red Dawn was a big deal back in the day. Sure it was absurd, but so what about that? The Left hated it with a burning passion and that was a good reason to like it.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (hHxp2)

265 I heard it was planes from Iran right before the travel ban, going into LaGuardia. Probably Italy also. Travel ban saved america

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (tjqz9)

266 Re: Red Dawn



Notice that the commies didn't air drop in to "Roadhouse".



That would have been a good movie.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (RuIsu)

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LOL.

A couple of other plot holes that bothered me.

1. The horses. Where's the stable? What do they eat? Do they have to sneak back down to the farm to get them before a raid?

2. The girls. I get that there's initial awkwardness, but please. A bunch of teenagers out in the woods alone. I'm not saying wanton lasciviousness, but there would be at least some sort of relationship.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (cfSRQ)

267 245 WTAF?! Where the seafood case had previously been empty, there was fresh salmon, grouper, shrimp and some trout! Gonna be grilling today!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2020 08:19 AM (Xesvh)

Yep. I even grabbed up some eggs and bread yesterday, which were hard to get just a couple of days prior. Still signs out telling people to not be assholes. i.e. limiting purchases.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (B95HO)

268
Traditional Latin Mass streamed from Christ the King Catholic Church in Sarasota, FL at 7:30 CDT.

http://LiveMass.net

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 29, 2020 08:26 AM (7rVsF)

269 262. I thought it was Hershey Highway

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:26 AM (tjqz9)

270 I bet it started here then. When the medical history
is written I bet we find lots of early cases went undiagnosed in NYC
Chinatown enclaves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:17 AM (NVYyb)


And most NY people are carrying around their cotton bags for grocerys. Another Cuomo demand, no more plastic, just dirty cotton shopping bags or paper (which is safer) And the "made in China" bags aren't that washable.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (VW+Vt)

271 Looks like PDTS had a conversation with Fredo Sr. and read him the riot act. The CDC is going to issue a 'strong travel advisory' for NYC and the surrounding area. Whatever that means.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (Xesvh)

272 We've discovered that pizza hut is okay if you give them instructions to go easy on the butter / oil. Otherwise our local place will give you a box that is nearly dripping.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (41rs/)

273 An easy and quick antibody test is shortly to be released.

If you have the antibodies, that means you survived C19 Wuhan Attack Virus and can go back to living a normal life. You are immune and cannot pass the disease to others.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (NVYyb)

274 As a type of palate-cleanser, there is a young woman in Yorkshire trying to set up a light-hearted history channel on YouTube.
Please look for "Catherine Warr - Yorkshire's Hidden History" and give her a few views.
I mean, while we're all on quarantine, we need something to brighten up our days, right?

Posted by: setnaffa at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (c4NCi)

275 So I take it the "I LOVE NY" meme is right out then?

Posted by: Case at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (U5lak)

276 *It's like the cognitive dissonance of: cigarettes are bad, pot is totally cool. Just admit that smoking is OK when it's your leaf of choice.
Posted by: Lizzy

Maybe a campaign that says. "My body, my choice"?

Hmmm, seems like I've heard that somewhere before...

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:27 AM (vd8XM)

277 Anecdotally, I think here, and personally, I have heard a lot of people
(including myself) that had something in the late December to early
February time-frame that laid them pretty low.







I work with a guy who in late December/early January was sick as hell. His doctor told him it was the flu. He was at home sick for a week and even when he came back he was still fighting it and it took him a long time to get rid of the cough. Looking back at it I wonder

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 08:28 AM (4mKR9)

278 1. Wall off NYC
2. Catapult in dead animals
3. Profit!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:28 AM (NWiLs)

279 Another day to live through. Better get started.

First, I will clear a path from the heaps of bodies left at the front door. All night the vampires were banging, banging, banging to try and get in.

I can't afford the luxury of anger. Anger can make me vulnerable. It can destroy my reason and reason's the only advantage I have over them.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (Z+IKu)

280 @241
More than likely this thing has been kicking around NYC as early as November and any cases that presented themselves were simply diagnosed as being flu related.

Even now, most Covid diagnoses are simply done via physical examination and elimination tests as there are not enough tests to test everyone.

Everyone and their mother who has a sniffle is now demanding to be tested for covid.

The effects of this disaster are going to be with us a very long time.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (ycdBu)

281 I just paid rent, had to use property managements portal. Charged $25 for the transaction, the fuckers.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (8JqLB)

282 I can't afford the luxury of anger. Anger can make me vulnerable. It can destroy my reason and reason's the only advantage I have over them.

More coffee.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (Z+IKu)

Anger can be very useful, if channeled properly and kept cold.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:30 AM (NWiLs)

283 I recall it the other way around but to be fair, I
don't have any way of going back. It probably was terrible but we were
young and hungry. The company Dominos is killing really, or they were.
But when I have there pizza I never plan to get it again. I probably
have DPZ one or twice a year.


Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:23 AM (hHxp2)

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Living in a college town, we have a number of local joints that seem to be defying that trend. When they close, it's usually because the owner died or retired and no one wanted to take over.

There's also some variability even in chains. There's a particular Biggby coffee show we patronize because they know how to make the specialty drink my wife craves. Other locations botch it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:30 AM (cfSRQ)

284 279. I heard Sam and Dean Winchester refused to go to New York

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:31 AM (tjqz9)

285 I work with a guy who in late December/early January
was sick as hell. His doctor told him it was the flu. He was at home
sick for a week and even when he came back he was still fighting it and
it took him a long time to get rid of the cough. Looking back at it I
wonder


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2020 08:28 AM (4mKR9)

My neighbors were like that.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 08:31 AM (nRNOc)

286 The flu and bronchitis can both be very rough. Back in the 70's I had the flu, and remember hardly able to get out of bed and was sick for about 2 weeks. Went to the doctor, but he couldn't do much for me.

Posted by: Colin at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (VW+Vt)

287 Re: "Red Dawn." Documentary on John Milius reveals that he was tolerated as a talented eccentric in Hollywood but after "Red Dawn" much of the industry was utterly appalled.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (H8QX8)

288 60 degrees here yesterday, so my wife and I went for a walk with about half of our neighbors by the lake.

The Horror!!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (vd8XM)

289 281. Call somebody on that fee. Banks are waiving all types of fees right now. That is bull sh

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (tjqz9)

290 Yep. I even grabbed up some eggs and bread
yesterday, which were hard to get just a couple of days prior. Still
signs out telling people to not be assholes. i.e. limiting purchases.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (B95HO)

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I'm told our store had toilet paper AND paper towels. We didn't need any, but good that they're restocking.

They closed the pre-cooked portion of the store though, so that may help the local eateries.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (cfSRQ)

291 281 $25 sounds pretty extreme. I can see a buck or two, but I think I would call them Monday. Question their patriotism for punishing a person trying best to avoid spreading the plague.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (C1Lsn)

292 288 60 degrees here yesterday, so my wife and I went for a walk with about half of our neighbors by the lake.

The Horror!!
Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (vd8XM)

*points*
*Donald Sutherland Body Snatchers scream*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (NWiLs)

293 284 279. I heard Sam and Dean Winchester refused to go to New York
Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:31 AM (tjqz9)

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:34 AM (G546f)

294 281 I just paid rent, had to use property managements portal. Charged $25 for the transaction, the fuckers.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (8JqLB)

That's outrageous.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

295 I think Trump! should do an EO that no "news" station can do news about the WooHoo flu for more than 10 minutes an hour.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:35 AM (vd8XM)

296 Re: "Red Dawn." Documentary on John Milius reveals
that he was tolerated as a talented eccentric in Hollywood but after
"Red Dawn" much of the industry was utterly appalled.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (H8QX

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Hollywood has definitely shifted from "I don't care the politics, make me money," to "It's other peoples' money, so I'm going SJW."

I just can't see the SJW Marvel selling well overseas.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:35 AM (cfSRQ)

297 Todays recipe is how to make Chlorine Bleach from 73% pool shock. http://tinyurl.com/makechlorine

Posted by: Julia Child at March 29, 2020 08:35 AM (h+jmX)

298 281 I just paid rent, had to use property managements portal. Charged $25 for the transaction, the fuckers.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (8JqLB)

Digital highway robbery.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:35 AM (NWiLs)

299 If you had the flu back in December, it was probably the flu. It's reassuring to think that you had it, you're fine, and now your immune. But it was probably a regular seasonal flu. Most of us were not on the cutting edge of wuflu, we just had a regular, garden variety, but still fatal for some, flu.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (ONvIw)

300 An easy and quick antibody test is shortly to be released.

Let me guess, its really a Trojan Horse DNA sample that will go on permanent file with the Government.

And it will be required to get out of "Lock Down"

Unless you are an illegal alien, in which like most cases you are absolved from participating (except for receiving Stimulous, then you can come for multiple helpings)

Posted by: 🐧 at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (uYQjf)

301 291 281 $25 sounds pretty extreme. I can see a buck or two, but I think I would call them Monday. Question their patriotism for punishing a person trying best to avoid spreading the plague.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (C1Lsn)


Call it "cyber-gouging."

Posted by: Shadout Mapes, now with more sanitizing power at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (PiwSw)

302 I wonder if Cuomo and the infantacide Democrats of New York, are still proud of lighting up the Empire State Building, over the passing of extreme baby killing. Karma is a bitch

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (tjqz9)

303 heh this would be me:

"New Yorker Tries to Recreate "Italy Magic" By Singing Out Window - But is Told to "Shut The F**k Up"

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (Tnijr)

304 I just paid rent, had to use property managements portal. Charged $25 for the transaction, the fuckers.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (8JqLB)


Sounds like you rent from Ticketmaster

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:37 AM (vd8XM)

305 246 Re: Red Dawn

Notice that the commies didn't air drop in to "Roadhouse".

That would have been a good movie.
Posted by: klaftern



Heh! Drunk, well armed, mostly criminal, rednecks is not the place to invade.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 29, 2020 08:37 AM (6wrct)

306 60 degrees here yesterday, so my wife and I went for a walk with about half of our neighbors by the lake.



The Horror!!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:32 AM (vd8XM)



*points*

*Donald Sutherland Body Snatchers scream*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (NWiLs)

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Lots of people out and about in our neighborhood. Given the weather (50 degrees, overcast, damp), you wouldn't expect people to be out and about but there they were, walking, pushing strollers, kids playing outside.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:37 AM (cfSRQ)

307 303 LMAO

freaked, would you be the singer or the critic?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:38 AM (G546f)

308 293 284 279. I heard Sam and Dean Winchester refused to go to New York
Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:31 AM (tjqz9)

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:34 AM (G546f)

Probably wise. And I don't see how Cuomo can defend that his rich NYC donors can spit on the shelter in place order he and Wilhelm dumped on the less affluent.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:38 AM (ONvIw)

309 Grocery store is almost back to normal today. Fair amount of paper products .Donut shop wasn't open so suspect its been closed all week, can't be good news for a 3 store chain.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:38 AM (ZCEU2)

310 The commies didn't jump in to "Breakfast Club" either.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (RuIsu)

311 309 Grocery store is almost back to normal today. Fair amount of paper products .Donut shop wasn't open so suspect its been closed all week, can't be good news for a 3 store chain.
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:38 AM (ZCEU2)

Dammit, now I want a donut. And I haven't had a cheat day in months.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (NWiLs)

312 Heh! Drunk, well armed, mostly criminal, rednecks is not the place to invade.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 29, 2020 08:37 AM (6wrct)

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Like that line from Casablanca:

"There are some sections of New York, major, that I don't advise you to invade."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (cfSRQ)

313 Cuomo is not going to be on television bitching all day is he?

Posted by: Case at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (U5lak)

314 Oh, yeah. Still have a double chocolate donut left from yesterday. Score.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (B95HO)

315 281 I just paid rent, had to use property managements portal. Charged $25 for the transaction, the fuckers.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:29 AM (8JqLB)


Did you pay via credit card? Some places (including my own apartment complex, the state government, Bud's Guns, etc.) charge the ~3% that the credit card companies charge *them* and pass that along to you. This is why I pay my rent by having my credit union cut and mail checks to the landlord through their web interface.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (DTX3h)

316 Lots of people out and about in our neighborhood. Given the weather (50 degrees, overcast, damp), you wouldn't expect people to be out and about but there they were, walking, pushing strollers, kids playing outside.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:37 AM (cfSRQ)

Probably tired of being cooped up.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (NWiLs)

317 Lots of people out and about in our neighborhood. Given the weather (50 degrees, overcast, damp), you wouldn't expect people to be out and about but there they were, walking, pushing strollers, kids playing outside.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed

Same here. A lot of families walking this past week, dressed for our goofy weather. Kids on bikes with other kids also.
I think parents are in the "go outside and play" mode

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (vd8XM)

318 A lot of people have undiagnosed GERD and acid reflux symptons, which seem like the flu etc..

Posted by: Jonah at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (tjqz9)

319
Let me guess, its really a Trojan Horse DNA sample that will go on permanent file with the Government.

just like the NSA started the "selfie" craze to fill up their facial recognition databases...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (CeiD8)

320
If you had the flu back in December, it was probably the flu. It's
reassuring to think that you had it, you're fine, and now your immune.
But it was probably a regular seasonal flu. Most of us were not on the
cutting edge of wuflu, we just had a regular, garden variety, but still
fatal for some, flu.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (ONvIw)

I know I caught something in late Jan/early Feb. that lasted a good long time. It seemed like a combo cold/flu/chest congestion and possible infection. No fever and not much time spent on the head but this was different.

I have had one flu shot in my life since the military decades ago and I don't think I have even had the flu. I don't know what all this means but something floored me early this year like nothing ever before.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (hHxp2)

321 Bruce if you didn't read it take a look at the Powerline llink I did above, England is using drones to spot people out of houses.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (ZCEU2)

322 "freaked, would you be the singer or the critic?

Depends on my BAC at the time.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (Tnijr)

323 313: Of course he is. How dare you refuse rich virus refugees from NYC.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (ONvIw)

324 264 Red Dawn was a big deal back in the day. Sure it was absurd, but so what about that? The Left hated it with a burning passion and that was a good reason to like it.
Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:25 AM (hHxp2)

===

Disagree. It was not absurd at the time. Several Central American countries had essentially joined up with the Cubans, Soviets; Jamaica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, for example. Cuban military had developed into Soviet proxies in Angola, Mozambique, and other hot spots far from home. So, not absurd. A possibility. That's what made the movie fun.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (EZebt)

325 @Bollocks_Dogz

A new trend is spreading on social media among Italians

-- Under the slogan "We will save ourselves", Italians burn the flag of the EU while playing the Italian national anthem

https://tinyurl.com/yx3et6re

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (cF8AT)

326 Going to my gun range in Texas this afternoon, to get a friend who bought a house and wants to buy a gun acquainted with various semi-auto types. He has no idea what exactly he wants or needs. I told him there ain't many good guns available now, but I'll help him learn what's what - safety options, size, weight, etc. Then he and I can start looking around locally and on the web. Range website says it is open - it's Texas, yay!


Posted by: Gref at March 29, 2020 08:41 AM (AMIL/)

327 even = ever

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:41 AM (hHxp2)

328 We should crowdsource "Red Midnight," a movie about a ChiCom landing near a roadhouse. Sort of a cross between "Shawn of the Dead" and "Dusk Till Dawn."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:41 AM (cfSRQ)

329 They said next month it will be set up to use the walmart service which i'm sure will be a couple bucks. But in the meantime they made a fortune, there are 59 buildings and my building has 24 apts.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 29, 2020 08:41 AM (8JqLB)

330 And had choice of tp and passed it up,must still have 30 some rolls and thought others might need it more.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:42 AM (ZCEU2)

331 If coronovirus were to invade a Supernatural ep, I'd expect Dean to freak out thinking he has it, Sam to hide that he actually has symptoms, and Castiel to keep working obliviously until he suddenly passes out.

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:42 AM (G546f)

332 313 Cuomo is not going to be on television bitching all day is he?
Posted by: Case at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (U5lak)

No. He's planning on taking an hour off for lunch.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:42 AM (B95HO)

333 lot of people have undiagnosed GERD and acid reflux symptons, which seem like the flu etc..
Posted by: Jonah

And the eating habits of those that cannot cook are not helping their GERD and AR

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:43 AM (vd8XM)

334 Time to cook the sausage and waffles. See ya on the book thread.

Posted by: freaked at March 29, 2020 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

335 Bruce if you didn't read it take a look at the Powerline llink I did above, England is using drones to spot people out of houses.
Posted by: Skip

Oh geez, that's all I need.

Get out the 12 gauge!

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:43 AM (vd8XM)

336 Bruce if you didn't read it take a look at the Powerline llink I did above, England is using drones to spot people out of houses.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (ZCEU2)


Good thing they disarmed the citizens...

Oh wait

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (BiNEL)

337 The commies didn't jump in to "Breakfast Club" either.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (RuIsu)

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Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)

338 320: Many strains of flus can feel different from others, some are stronger, some weaker. A lot of people here were getting verified Influenza B and were pretty sick. And it can lead to all the symptoms people associate with wuflu: pneumonia, kidney failure, myocarditis, sepsis. So, we are essentially being hit twice this year, flu and the bat fever.

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (ONvIw)

339 Disagree. It was not absurd at the time. Several
Central American countries had essentially joined up with the Cubans,
Soviets; Jamaica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, for example. Cuban military
had developed into Soviet proxies in Angola, Mozambique, and other hot
spots far from home. So, not absurd. A possibility. That's what made the
movie fun.



Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (EZebt)

I loved the movie and was just the right age. I will just say it was not too deep on the technical details. I mean, the first scene was a town in Colorado invaded by paratroopers from Russia/Cuba and no one having a clue who they were. I am sure there was a backstory and I recall their being one, but still.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:45 AM (hHxp2)

340 Well, Miranda Lambert checked in to let us all know she's doing okay except for her anxiety. I don't know what pisses me off more. That they think we care or Fox thought this was actually news.

https://tinyurl.com/v32ubb6

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 29, 2020 08:45 AM (dUJdY)

341 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)

The Wizard of Oz !

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:45 AM (B95HO)

342 This is Robert Morgan. If somebody can hear me, answer me. For God's sake, ANSWER ME.

This is KOKW calling. KOKW calling! Answer me!

Posted by: Robert Morgan at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (Z+IKu)

343 329 After this mess is over, I think a lot of tenants should visit their office and pay in person. In cash. You know, the old "pissed off person at the DMV paying in pennies".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (C1Lsn)

344 341 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)

Hello Dolly and anything with Streisand

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

345 Posted by: Jewells45 at March 29, 2020 08:45 AM (dUJdY)

Who is Miranda Labert?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (BiNEL)

346 The Wizard of Oz !

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 08:45 AM (B95HO)

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Ordinary People

Kramer vs Kramer

American Beauty

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (cfSRQ)

347 341 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)


*looks around for TJM* Prometheus? *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Shadout Mapes, now with more sanitizing power at March 29, 2020 08:47 AM (PiwSw)

348 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.



Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)

West Side Story.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:47 AM (hHxp2)

349 337 The commies didn't jump in to "Breakfast Club" either.

Posted by: klaftern at March 29, 2020 08:39 AM (RuIsu)

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Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd



The Big Chill; except I'd be rooting for the Cubans.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (6wrct)

350 The Wizard of Oz !
Posted by: jsg

Oh, nos vamos a ver al mago

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (vd8XM)

351
West Side Story.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:47 AM (hHxp2)

That movie needed the 101st

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (ONvIw)

352 Bruce if you didn't read it take a look at the Powerline llink I did above, England is using drones to spot people out of houses.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (ZCEU2)

We have a fourth amendment right to armed drones to shoot their drones down. Battle of Suburban Drones!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (NVYyb)

353 The Big Chill; except I'd be rooting for the Cubans.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (6wrct)

On Golden Pond

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (hHxp2)

354 346 347 348 The Sound of Music.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (C1Lsn)

355 Disagree. It was not absurd at the time. Several
Central American countries had essentially joined up with the Cubans,
Soviets; Jamaica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, for example. Cuban military
had developed into Soviet proxies in Angola, Mozambique, and other hot
spots far from home. So, not absurd. A possibility. That's what made the
movie fun.



Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 29, 2020 08:40 AM (EZebt)

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The scenario at the start wasn't actually awful.

There are just some silly plot points, the biggest of which is that *given all of the above* the locals wouldn't have reacted a little more aggressively.

I think they were trying to give the whole "It could happen here before you know it" kind of thing.

And of course at that time, Hollywood was slobbering over the Soviets, so Milius had to be banished.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (cfSRQ)

356 Hrothgar.. she's a country singer.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (dUJdY)

357 Still think a Ma Deuce on back of truck would be handy, can use it for anti-aircraft weapon.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (ZCEU2)

358 325 "Ci salviamo da soli" is the slogan

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (G546f)

359 Who is Miranda Labert?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:46 AM (BiNEL)

Miranda Lambert is a country singer. A few years ago her husband, another country singer named Blake Shelton, became a judge on one of those music talent shows on NBC and divorced her because he had taken up with another one of the judges, a pop singer named Gwen Stefani.

Posted by: Vendette at March 29, 2020 08:50 AM (nRNOc)

360 Okay, time to do some things.

I finished off the stuff list yesterday.

Posted by: Bruce at March 29, 2020 08:50 AM (vd8XM)

361 Blueberry pancakes and sausages tomorrow, can't wait.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:51 AM (ZCEU2)

362 I think this virus hit even earlier than December. Mr.L was down for a week with a flu like thing back in October, after we returned from Boston. Had a cough for six weeks. The DIL and grandson were sick for weeks.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at March 29, 2020 08:51 AM (Vf4Y7)

363 We have a fourth amendment right to armed drones to shoot their drones down. Battle of Suburban Drones!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 29, 2020 08:48 AM (NVYyb)

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Future Gub Thread topic: "What type of shotgun/ammo combo is best for downing drones?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:51 AM (cfSRQ)

364 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)
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Any Jane Austen movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 08:52 AM (Dc2NZ)

365 364 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)


Bambi.

Posted by: Shadout Mapes, now with more sanitizing power at March 29, 2020 08:53 AM (PiwSw)

366 88 Can't find my one and only dish detergent that doesn't cause me a rash.

mlii, what kind do you like? I've been using Dawn Pure Essentials lemon--I don't have a rash problem, so I don't know how it is with that, but I have a scent problem, and this doesn't smell like a chemical factory like the others.

Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 08:53 AM (OX9vb)

367 Are you sure that Belgian feline is not a Hep Kat?

Posted by: saf at March 29, 2020 08:54 AM (5IHGB)

368 Excellent scary "virus" movie is a "Pontypool." Independent film about zombie outbreak in a small Canadian town. First symptom is a breakdown in language coherence. Terrific claustrophobic mood.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 08:54 AM (H8QX8)

369 ---
Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)
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The Care Bears movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 08:54 AM (Dc2NZ)

370 Jewells and Vendette

I should have used the /s.

Miranda Lambert did "Gunpowder and Lead" so she is probably the perfect AoS country singer!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 29, 2020 08:54 AM (BiNEL)

371 And of course at that time, Hollywood was slobbering over the Soviets, so Milius had to be banished.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (cfSRQ)

I heard John Goodman's character in The Big Lebowski was based on Milius. OF course that was liberal Hollyweird making fun I think Milius made some great stuff. Just looking him up now and there was some great stuff.

Uncommon Valor and Lone Wolf McQuade? Crap, Chuck Norris owes that guy a career for Lone Wolf McQuade alone.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:55 AM (hHxp2)

372 "Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.



Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author"

Any movie with Matt Damon and they kill him.

Posted by: Ripley at March 29, 2020 08:55 AM (XBPlw)

373 Any Jane Austen movie.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 08:52 AM (Dc2NZ)

Hell yeah, Darcy needed help tracking down Lydia and Wickham!

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:56 AM (ONvIw)

374 I'm still laughing at the mental image of Dalton snatching all the commies' throats out.

The Notebook.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 29, 2020 08:56 AM (rWZ8Y)

375 Hell yeah, Darcy needed help tracking down Lydia and Wickham!
Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 08:56 AM (ONvIw)

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:56 AM (G546f)

376 364 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)


Citizen Kane. *sees TJM and runs away*

Posted by: Shadout Mapes, now with more sanitizing power at March 29, 2020 08:57 AM (PiwSw)

377 I heard John Goodman's character in The Big Lebowski
was based on Milius. OF course that was liberal Hollyweird making fun I
think Milius made some great stuff. Just looking him up now and there
was some great stuff.

Uncommon Valor and Lone Wolf McQuade? Crap, Chuck Norris owes that guy a career for Lone Wolf McQuade alone.


Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 08:55 AM (hHxp2)

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Milius (in)famously carried a gun, I believe a .44 magnum.

It says something that he got blackballed and Polanski got lionized.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:57 AM (cfSRQ)

378 374 I'm still laughing at the mental image of Dalton snatching all the commies' throats out.


As Jeff Healy plays guitar.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:57 AM (NWiLs)

379 Actually shouldn't take much to down a drone, hitting it is the hard part, anything that does hit it will do damage. Birdshot and a 12ga for close certainly.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 08:57 AM (ZCEU2)

380 It says something that he got blackballed and Polanski got lionized.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 29, 2020 08:57 AM (cfSRQ)


You don't say.

Posted by: W. Allen at March 29, 2020 08:58 AM (BiNEL)

381 The Way We Were

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 08:58 AM (nRWPy)

382 "377 I heard John Goodman's character in The Big Lebowski
was based on Milius."

That character was an idiot and ruined the movie for me.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (H8QX8)

383 372 "Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

My Dinner With Andre

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (NWiLs)

384 364 Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

==

Gone With The Wind

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (G546f)

385 >>366 88 Can't find my one and only dish detergent that doesn't cause me a rash.

mlii, what kind do you like? I've been using Dawn Pure Essentials lemon--I don't have a rash problem, so I don't know how it is with that, but I have a scent problem, and this doesn't smell like a chemical factory like the others.
Posted by: April at March 29, 2020 08:53 AM (OX9vb)

Ivory. Not the kind infused with lavendar

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (Z/jzm)

386 The Big Chill

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (NWiLs)

387 Cuban paratroopers?
Bad News Bears, until the end they beat their baseball team

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (ZCEU2)

388 Gone With The Wind
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (G546f)

"Atlanta's burning Scarlett!"

In come the paratroopers to save the city

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (ONvIw)

389 86 Good Morning Horde,

Mr. Spypeach has left once again to the front lines in search of toilet paper, it's been almost two weeks and we still have not found any. We are down to are 1 ply emergency reserves.

It's supposed to be a beautiful day today, so we are hoping to get the the local nursery, praying we won't be arrested for trying to buy plants out here in communist VA. Looking forward to starting yard work and doing some new landscaping. Then steak and shrimp on the barbie later
Posted by: spypeach at March 29, 2020 06:54 AM (7R8A2)

--------------------------------

Well, it's more 1-ply, but if you have a Sam's Club membership, they've got 36 rolls of Scott's available online.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (CAJOC)

390 I shouldn't say he was "based on Milius". It was Hollyweird making an inside joke at him.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (hHxp2)

391 I paid to see the new Emma via amazon last night.

Good, but actually not as good as the Paltrow Emma. Mr. Knightly wasn't hot.

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (nRWPy)

392 A Bridge Too Far. It couldn't have hurt.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:01 AM (hHxp2)

393 381 The Way We Were
Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 08:58 AM (nRWPy)

They'd only help with Streisand's pro-commie leafletting

Posted by: CN at March 29, 2020 09:01 AM (ONvIw)

394 Dad locks son and friends out of the house after they return from Spring break.

Good for Dad....grandparents live in the house.

https://tinyurl.com/r3bdj2j

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2020 09:02 AM (cF8AT)

395 393 381 The Way We Were
Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 08:58 AM (nRWPy)


They romanticized Socialism and turned Redford's character into a shallow sell-out.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:03 AM (H8QX8)

396 Book nood is up, not my job to notify but letting it known

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:03 AM (ZCEU2)

397 I remember a movie reviewer way back when who said, "Seeing Red was the opposite of seeing Red Dawn". That was pretty clever.

Posted by: Quint at March 29, 2020 09:03 AM (hHxp2)

398 Reds.

Posted by: getting the banned back together again at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (nyI2m)

399 A new trend is spreading on social media among Italians

-- Under the slogan "We will save ourselves", Italians burn the flag of the EU while playing the Italian national anthem
________________

Gee, it would be just too, too bad if globalism were to be one of the China virus' biggest casualties.

Saw earlier that France had stopped a shipment of medical supplies to the U.K. because it wanted to use them for its own population. So much for "unity" and the "we're all in this together" bullshit. When the shit hits the fan, the "world community" will be the first to shiv you in the back.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (k4dH2)

400 Yeah willowed, but Sleepless in Seattle could do with some Cuban Paras.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (fg6n8)

401 Said good amount of all paper products today at the store.
Lots of people with masks on too.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (ZCEU2)

402 Good, but actually not as good as the Paltrow Emma.
Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 09:00 AM (nRWPy)

That was good. I've always thought she was a good actress.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 29, 2020 09:04 AM (H8QX8)

403 2083 strains have been sequenced.

Posted by: it begins... at March 29, 2020 09:05 AM (lBCgE)

404 >>Good, but actually not as good as the Paltrow Emma. Mr. Knightly wasn't hot.


Yeah, noticed that in the trailer - he's weird-looking. Also seems to young?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (bDqIh)

405 Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (Z/jzm)

I don't buy Ivory or Dawn anymore, because fuck Proctor & Gamble. I switched to Palmolive Pure & Clear.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (6ofTb)

406 So 1917 is being advertised as available on PPV this weekend.

Worth the watch ?

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 09:06 AM (B95HO)

407 383 372 "Maybe we should make a list of movies improved by the sudden arrival of Cuban paratroopers.

My Dinner With Andre
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 29, 2020 08:59 AM (NWiLs)
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Yes. Would watch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 29, 2020 09:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

408 Yeah, noticed that in the trailer - he's weird-looking. Also seems to young?


Yep, too young, not hot. Not a commanding presence.

Great scenery and sets tho.

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 09:08 AM (nRWPy)

409 Oh, and no chemistry between Emma and Knightly.

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2020 09:09 AM (nRWPy)

410 >>They romanticized Socialism and turned Redford's character into a shallow sell-out.


Redford likes to play SDS/Weatherman-type characters - Sneakers, Lions for Lambs, The Company You Keep.

Ick.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (bDqIh)

411 Powerline - Orangeman while giving the Kennedy center a plane full of cash has also named Jon Voight and Mike Huckabee and 8 others to its directors.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:10 AM (ZCEU2)

412 >>I don't buy Ivory or Dawn anymore, because fuck Proctor & Gamble. I switched to Palmolive Pure & Clear.
Posted by: Jordan61

I hear ya, but it's the only one i can tolerate without breaking out in a rash. I gave up on trying others a while ago because i was giving it to friends who didn't have issues, too often!
Maybe palmolive pure and clear would be ok. I will try that if i cant find ivory next time i'm out

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 09:11 AM (Z/jzm)

413 So, is this the open thread for folks who don't read no stinking books?

Posted by: jwest at March 29, 2020 09:11 AM (mrrpT)

414 1917 Yes, the spectacle of the horror is worth it, if anything still the scope really I think would be more but good story and visual.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:12 AM (ZCEU2)

415 I haven't had a new book in weeks, almost hit buy on a Amazon book but didn't this past week.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:13 AM (ZCEU2)

416 Fading quickly, still open but not for long maybe.
Willowed threads do die quickly here.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:18 AM (ZCEU2)

417 Just reading about the WaPo poll showing Trump gaining and now in a statistical tie with Biden and Trump way ahead on how he's handling WuFlu.

Then someone looked into the methodology on the survey and found this: The caller always asked for the youngest male or female in the household.

Just wow. Bias much? So much for random sampling.

Posted by: WisRich at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (OAlmw)

418 417
Then someone looked into the methodology on the survey and found this: The caller always asked for the youngest male or female in the household.

Just wow. Bias much? So much for random sampling.
Posted by: WisRich at March 29, 2020 09:19 AM (OAlmw)

Will make November's ass kicking that much more enjoyable.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 09:21 AM (B95HO)

419 Thanks Skip for the 1917 answer will give it a whirl today.

Posted by: jsg at March 29, 2020 09:22 AM (B95HO)

420 Saw it at Target on DVD also

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:27 AM (ZCEU2)

421 The one thing in 1917 while the battlefield shows all the true horror it doesn't seem to extend far, though not sure seems a swath of ground the battle consumed would be 20 miles wide easily out to artillery range. Maybe this is before that occured I am not sure. The other day I came across a WWI picture coffee table size book I had for 40 years, I should take a look at it.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 09:32 AM (ZCEU2)

422 301 291 281 $25 sounds pretty extreme. I can see a buck or two, but I think I would call them Monday. Question their patriotism for punishing a person trying best to avoid spreading the plague.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 29, 2020 08:33 AM (C1Lsn)


Call it "cyber-gouging."
Posted by: Shadout Mapes, now with more sanitizing power at March 29, 2020 08:36 AM (PiwSw)


Son and his girl dropped by yesterday evening. He lives about an hour away, out in farm country. Seems early on there was a run on paper products and baby formula at his local Walmart. A few days later, stuff was being resold on Facebook at triple price. Enablers!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 29, 2020 09:35 AM (di1hb)

423 Kung Flu Freakout has not slowed down Biden one bit. He is still having campaign rallies. The ten person limit has had no measurable impact. And as before the press doesn't run articles on them because it is just the same old sad doddering fool babbling on about hogsheads to the mile and onions on belts.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 29, 2020 10:31 AM (1g7ch)

424 Pizza Hut changed their crust a year or two ago. The pan style used to be carmelized and crunchy on the bottom, yeah it was a little oily but it was tasty. Now you have to pay $1 extra for pan style crust and it's nothing like it used to be, soft and flavorless. I suppose marketing told them oil = bad. Bah humbug

Posted by: Bigsmith at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (G/mW5)

425 Posted by: Bigsmith at March 29, 2020 10:55 AM (G/mW5)
~~~~~

I've got a recipe for Pizza Hut with the oily bottom that I got from a former employee years ago (my kids loved it.)
If you want I'll go find it for you. It's the real deal.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (sGotD)

426 Posted by: IrishEi at March 29, 2020 11:00 AM (sGotD)


Appreciate the offer, but pizza is strictly a convenience food for me, I don't do it from scratch.

Posted by: Bigsmith at March 29, 2020 11:09 AM (G/mW5)

427 I would really enjoy the Pizza Hut oily crust recipe. Pizza Hut is my favorite pizza.

I live in Michigan and I get the impression that our governor is really trying to up her national exposure by this corona Chinese flu. Most of our cases are in Detroit, and involve diabetics. It's getting really irritating. She is slightly less irritating than Cuomo-but it's a close second.

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 29, 2020 11:15 AM (lonOK)

428 "What's the capital of Texas?"

Posted by: pawn at March 29, 2020 11:19 AM (Hq+qX)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (3/28/20)

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(Mystery click?)


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The Saturday Night Joke


The Presbyterian church called a meeting to decide what to do about their squirrel infestation. After much prayer and consideration, they concluded that the squirrels were predestined to be there, and they shouldn't interfere with God's divine will.

At the Baptist church the squirrels had taken an interest in the baptistery. The deacons met and decided to put a water-slide on the baptistery and let the squirrels drown themselves. The squirrels liked the slide and unfortunately, knew instinctively how to swim, so twice as many squirrels showed up the following week.

The Lutheran church decided that they were not in a position to harm any of God's creatures. So, they humanely trapped their squirrels and set them free near the Baptist church. Two weeks later the squirrels were back when the Baptists took down the water-slide.

The Episcopalians tried a much more unique path by setting out pans of whiskey around their church in an effort to kill the squirrels with alcohol poisoning. They sadly learned how much damage a band of drunk squirrels can do.
But the Catholic church came up with a very creative strategy! They baptized all the squirrels and made them members of the church. Now they only see them at Christmas and Easter.

And not much was heard from the Jewish synagogue. They took the first squirrel and circumcised him. They haven't seen a squirrel since.

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Now that's a Bloody Mary............


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The ONT Is Always Looking Out For YouTMIn case you run out of ass wipe.

This story originally featured on Field & Stream.

As I write this, Charmin, Cottonelle, and Downy Soft toilet paper, to name a few, are “currently unavailable” on Amazon. This verifies what you’ve always suspected: When things get scary in the US, the first thing most of us think about is pooping. The average American goes through 30 rolls of toilet paper. a year, which is kind of impressive but still not a reason to stock an entire wall of your basement with them. Seventy percent of the world’s population doesn’t even use bathroom tissue. They use a variety of things, including, in some countries, the left hand. I have no intention of covering that technique here.

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If my father was alive I believe he would be having a conniption fit about right now.

As the majority of Americans quarantine in their homes to prevent the spread of coronavirus, it can feel like everything “fun” has been closed or put on hiatus. In most states, residents are only allowed to venture out for the things they really need, like groceries, prescriptions, gas, or medical care.

And in a handful of places, this also includes weed.

In more than a dozen states where cannabis has already been legalized — including California, Oregon, Connecticut, Washington, New York, New Mexico, Massachusetts, and Michigan — marijuana businesses are still in operation, having been deemed “essential services” that must remain open to meet the population’s needs.


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We have covered ugly cars before in the past. This study take it to a new level.


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Finding and getting a husband in 1958 was certainly different than today. My how times have changed.

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Reruns suck. Will these be different?

With no sports currently running in the United States, and with sports fans craving high-quality content, ESPN and the NFL are partnering for a series showing some classics from Monday Night Football. Starting on March 30th, the network will replay four epic showdowns from the last 14 years — ESPN took over MNF in 2006 — as well as one from the ABC era of the series.

ESPN couldn’t have picked a better game to start with: on Monday, it will show the instantly legendary 2018 match-up between the Los Angeles Rams and the Kansas City Chiefs at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

In case you missed it the first time, the game became the highest-scoring MNF game ever, as well as the third-highest scoring NFL game in history, period. The Rams won 54-51 in a game that featured four lead changes in the fourth quarter, as well as a total of 1,001 yards between both teams. Even that undersells how intense the final frame was, going down to the last 13 seconds.

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The ONT Musical Interlude

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Sunshine, Florida, Alcohol = Genius Award Winners.

Like any good Florida story, this one begins with a naked couple brawling inside a car parked at the mall.

Late Sunday evening, cops responded to the Clearwater Mall after receiving a report about a fight in progress. Witnesses told officers that after hearing a woman screaming “within the parking lot,” they discovered “the two naked within the car and wrestling with each other.”

Cops separated the couple, identified in an arrest affidavit as Robert Janisch, a 21-year-old Minnesota resident, and his girlfriend of six months (both of whom “admitted to drinking alcohol today”.

During police questioning, the pair each said that a physical confrontation occurred after they finished having sex inside the vehicle.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Moral Support.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Enjoy The ONT Happy Hours. Pants optional.

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1 First

Posted by: Trog04 at March 28, 2020 09:47 PM (u/qoh)

2 First?

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 09:47 PM (TdMsT)

3 Oh well...

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 09:48 PM (TdMsT)

4 Here we go!

Posted by: Norman Spiny at March 28, 2020 09:48 PM (NSEzS)

5 Did not see this one coming. The first, that is.

Posted by: Trog04 at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (u/qoh)

6 Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (a4EWo)

7
I was just reading. The UK govt. is estimating that the Chicoms are lying by a factor of 15 - 50 in their official Bat Flu numbers. I assume that's the assumption all over the world.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (f1Vqw)

8 FIRST!!!

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (s9Eo8)

9 Oh goodie.....more Zappa....

*farts*

Posted by: Norman Spiny at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (NSEzS)

10 That's right, ladies - drink til I'm good lookin'.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at March 28, 2020 09:50 PM (xts8Z)

11 Not top 10.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 09:50 PM (0ReGO)

12 10 Oh goodie.....more Zappa....

*farts*
Posted by: Norman Spiny at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (NSEzS)


I hear Slate is looking for entertaining commenters.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 09:51 PM (aA3+G)

13 Le ONT!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 09:51 PM (Dc2NZ)

14 I cut my finger making a sammich earlier today. Lots of blood but I'll survive.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 28, 2020 09:52 PM (Uu+Jp)

15 Beer me!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (Y4EXg)

16 Good evening, Horde.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (TdMsT)

17 8
I was just reading. The UK govt. is estimating that the Chicoms are lying by a factor of 15 - 50 in their official Bat Flu numbers. I assume that's the assumption all over the world.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (f1Vqw)

Not a shock, they're complete and utter monsters, the Chicoms. And we enabled them so a few billionaires could get richer and richer...fuck them too

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (ONvIw)

18 A feast of content! Thanks, MisHum!

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (dOV9E)

19 JEEZ Norman!!!

**Tapes over the USB port.**

Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (axyOa)

20 The one pointing her tongue out towards me wants me, but I want the one behind her (with the scary-looking perfect chompers).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (El6T/)

21
Estimates are now that the Fed's balance sheet will hit $9T by the time this is over.

Estimate for next week is the Fed will "print" at a rate of about $100B per day. That's slacking off a bit, it was about $125B per day when they first started last week.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

22 That Zappa on Mike Douglas clip is the most 70's thing ever.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

23 There does seem a hint of a trace that the UK might get upset with the Chicoms. I wouldn't hold my breath for any useful action, however. The 5G thing might now be dead, which would be nice. But, UK. And BoJo.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 09:54 PM (El6T/)

24 @8: "I assume that's the assumption all over the world."

Some Twitter chatter that the Chicoms will blame the "second wave" of infections on Western travelers who came into their country and disrupted their otherwise perfect recovery, and use the fake resurgence as cover to reveal closer to real numbers.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 28, 2020 09:55 PM (+oVP5)

25 So where is all the toilet paper? Please talk me out of my first guess, which is "in the garages of stupid people."

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:55 PM (dOV9E)

26 Nutz, I knew I should have quit the movie thread!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 09:55 PM (BiNEL)

27 19 A feast of content! Thanks, MisHum!
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (dOV9E)

Thanks.
I felt I let The ONT crowd down.
Every f*cking thing is f*cking Kung flu shit.
Hard to avoid it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (aA3+G)

28 I've heard the squirrel joke before, but they "bat mitzvah'd" the squirrels and they were never seen again

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (ONvIw)

29 I love the Saturday night joke, MisHum.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (TdMsT)

30 publius, when you have the world's only true reserve currency and the (comparatively) best rule of law in finance, you can just make things up as you go. Not wise, but at present nothing to stop it.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (El6T/)

31 I've been to 8 Oktoberfests.
Never saw girls like that.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (axyOa)

32 I don't have a couch.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 09:57 PM (E2o2V)

33 The second wave of infections in China started when someone ate some leftover bat soup.

Posted by: davidt at March 28, 2020 09:57 PM (l3+k2)

34 32 I've been to 8 Oktoberfests.
Never saw girls like that.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (axyOa)

But were you looking?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 09:57 PM (aA3+G)

35 Boobs n brews. Nice touch.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 09:57 PM (qAYFA)

36 Amazon Prime has a nice documentary on Sam Bush. Lots of great music.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 09:57 PM (Lqy/e)

37 28 Thanks.
I felt I let The ONT crowd down.
Every f*cking thing is f*cking Kung flu shit.
Hard to avoid it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (aA3+G)


It's where we are; it's the air we breathe. Why should anything be exempt? When we are on the other side of all of this, there is much fun to be had. But we're in it now.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:58 PM (dOV9E)

38 Some Twitter chatter that the Chicoms will blame the "second wave" of infections on Western travelers who came into their country and disrupted their otherwise perfect recovery, and use the fake resurgence as cover to reveal closer to real numbers.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 28, 2020 09:55 PM (+oVP5)


I know I really wanted to visit Wuhan in February 2020

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (BiNEL)

39 Overnight??? I just got done mowing the lawn

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (h1jJh)

40 Ahoy, ſodomites & ſodomettes!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (7WaWV)

41 Evening Friends!

What day number of the quarantine is this?

Posted by: ALH at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (NP5PC)

42 That's some bitchin' Zappa. Zoot Aloures had the funny (Wonderful Wino, Disco Boy, etc.) but also great instrumentals.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (Dc2NZ)

43 And ballz, too, if you click. Oh well.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (qAYFA)

44 MisHum, there's content?? Wow, need to scroll up.

Walter, obviously laughable to claim a "second wave" so soon. Don't believe any bug has ever followed such a compressed schedule, though second wave is actually a thing with many bugs, possibly this one.

But the NYT, Economist, and wires will "report" any Chinese lie, however obviously ludicrous, without challenge or comment (well, other than to swoon over the imaginary global influence of Chi-nah).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (El6T/)

45 So, my mama called me today, and wants me to come and cut her hair. I am not a hair stylist. She's fuckin' lonesome.

I talked to my sister, mostly to make sure she wouldn't hate me for the rest of my life if my mother somehow falls ill after this, and I am going to go and do my best to give her a haircut and cut her nails.

We have to live.

Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (OX9vb)

46 Why aren't third world shitholes being affected by the Chinese Lung Aids?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (E2o2V)

47 That's right, ladies - drink til I'm good lookin'.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at March 28, 2020 09:50 PM (xts8Z)

It's gonna take case lots for me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (BiNEL)

48 Saw an article that someone got some video out of China that funeral urns were being delivered to funeral homes in mass quantities.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (s9Eo8)

49 People in NYC totally ignoring the order to stay home. All sorts of pics on Twitter showing parks packed full of people shoulder to shoulder. But remember, its those dumb tubes in Alabama that arent taking this seriously, per NeverTrump scum.

As far as I care, let NYC fucking burn.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (Gl2vL)

50 Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:58 PM (dOV9E)

Thanks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (aA3+G)

51 oh, and Evening horde. And cheers!

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (s9Eo8)

52 Thanks.
I felt I let The ONT crowd down.
Every f*cking thing is f*cking Kung flu shit.
Hard to avoid it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March




I got this

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (HALdu)

53 From the last thread:

Partners who hated each other:

1) Martin & Lewis

2) Gilbert & Sullivan

3) Abbott & Costello

Penn Gillette wrote that the reason Penn & Gillette have survived for 35 years is, they only see each other at rehearsals & performances. Period. It's a BUSINESS, he explains. They don't socialize.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (Cssks)

54 @39: "I know I really wanted to visit Wuhan in February 2020"

To be fair, travel agents can get you an entire commercial jetliner to yourself for a half price individual ticket, and I dunno who could resist a deal like that.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (+oVP5)

55 I cleaned house today, Yay Me!

Posted by: ALH at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (NP5PC)

56 Never been to Oktoberfest.

Is that the one with the massive torchlight parades and the gigantic concrete eagles, or is that the Bayreuth festival?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (El6T/)

57
We have to live.
Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (OX9vb)


I think you're doing the right thing.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (TdMsT)

58 LOL, good Saturdy joke.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 28, 2020 10:01 PM (aS1PU)

59 *waves to Hrothgar*

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (RU4sa)

60 For the last one: We were also called on to go out shopping 18.5 years ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (bDqIh)

61 "...use the fake resurgence as cover to reveal closer to real numbers."

So first they faked the numbers down, and now they are faking them up?

Sneaky, these Chi-nee. Seems like a lot of trouble for nothing though.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (Bwqq4)

62 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

We are going to be OK...

as long as the strategic green ink reserve holds up!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (BiNEL)

63 People in NYC totally ignoring the order to stay home. All sorts of pics on Twitter showing parks packed full of people shoulder to shoulder. But remember, its those dumb tubes in Alabama that arent taking this seriously, per NeverTrump scum.

As far as I care, let NYC fucking burn.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March




1. this is stupid

2. the funny thing is that Trump is from NY and so is Ace

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (HALdu)

64 Does the Oktoberfest at Busch Gardens count?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (E2o2V)

65 Light rain coming down. If it were a bit colder it would be snow.

Posted by: davidt at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (l3+k2)

66 Boss Moss, not so sure that's true. Not sure what we actually know. And Mexico is 15 miles away for some of us.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (El6T/)

67 Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (RU4sa)

*waves back at SMH*

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (BiNEL)

68 Too bad those enticing young women aren't advertising a more interesting beer.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (Cssks)

69 Okay, I cracked up at the Saturday Night Joke.

Well played.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (Vgw1E)

70 54 Penn Gillette wrote that the reason Penn & Gillette have survived for 35 years is, they only see each other at rehearsals & performances. Period. It's a BUSINESS, he explains. They don't socialize.
Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:0


How would you? Teller doesn't talk.

Seriously, I've seen their Las Vegas show twice (recommended, not the same every time), and both times, they came out and chatted with people from the audience afterwards. They are a class act.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (dOV9E)

71 {{{Hrothgar}}}


{{{SMH}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (TdMsT)

72 We have to live.
Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (OX9vb)

What a nice thing you did. Moms always want you to spend time with them more than anything else.

Posted by: ALH at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (NP5PC)

73 That reminds me -- those of us in the DC.N.VA/MD area remember a kind of shelter in place during the DC Snipers' shooting spree. That was fun, wondering if you'd be shot while gassing up your car, zig-zagging when you rushed from car to office, etc. Run, it's another white van at the end of he block!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (bDqIh)

74 What year is the Zappa/Mike Douglas show clip? Is that Kenny Rogers I saw?

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (oOopB)

75 As far as I care, let NYC fucking burn.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March




1. this is stupid

2. the funny thing is that Trump is from NY and so is Ace
Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:02 PM (HALdu)

---

Someone suggested nuking sanctuary cities in the previous thread.

I think the lockdown is really getting to some people.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (RU4sa)

76 How would you? Teller doesn't talk.

Seriously, I've seen their Las Vegas show twice (recommended, not the same every time), and both times, they came out and chatted with people from the audience afterwards. They are a class act.
Posted by: Splunge at March



they are great doing their show but irritating otherwise.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (HALdu)

77 No I think the idea (assumed by many all along) is that the heathen Chi-neee are greatly under-reporting #s. I think there, and in Iran, you're getting the old double whammy - a system that doesn't have a grip on the true numbers, with the lies and distortions of a corrupt dictatorship on top (lies to each other, not just the outside world).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (El6T/)

78 Hi LadyL

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (RU4sa)

79 Okay, I have a stupid question for the Horde. And before you answer, yes, I am drunk.

Doesn't matter.

So, I am downloading some Abbott and Costello movies, because things, but my main question is--

What would you consider your top ten movies?

Beyond that, what would you consider your top ten movies by Genre?

If you had a limited time to download your favorite flicks, what would you choose?

(This is better than anything I have posted while sober)


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (l9m7l)

80 3) Abbott & Costello

They & their wives socialized often and were good friends.

You may be thinking of Laurel & Hardy who had some personal differences.

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (LPnfS)

81
41 Ahoy, fodomites & fodomettes!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at March 28, 2020 09:59 PM (7WaWV)


And here I thought it was sodomy and sodomu

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (pNxlR)

82 78 No I think the idea (assumed by many all along) is that the heathen Chi-neee are greatly under-reporting #s. I think there, and in Iran, you're getting the old double whammy - a system that doesn't have a grip on the true numbers, with the lies and distortions of a corrupt dictatorship on top (lies to each other, not just the outside world).
Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (El6T/)

The Rives of Othahs

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (NWiLs)

83 So, I'm a tad confused. Kentucky just declared a disaster over this.

We have 394 cases. But we only have tested ~5000 people, and that number hasn't gone up in a couple of days.

I know this spreads like a wildfire, but if we aren't testing in numbers, what is the indicator that we need to declare disaster?

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (s9Eo8)

84 @62: "So first they faked the numbers down, and now they are faking them up?"

Everyone's kinda faking the numbers so far with limited testing. Western countries can't hide the death count as easily as the Chinese, but infection numbers are way low.

Minnesota has an official state wide count of 441 infections as of this morning, and there's just no way in hell that's anywhere close to reality.

County medical center in Minneapolis basically says on their website that you shouldn't bother asking for a test unless you're already falling outta bed sick.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (+oVP5)

85 Not a shock, they're complete and utter monsters, the Chicoms. And we enabled them so a few billionaires could get richer and richer...fuck them too

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (ONvIw)


But just think of all the money you saved with the cheap crap you bought from China and Bezos!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (BiNEL)

86 Someone suggested nuking sanctuary cities in the previous thread.

I think the lockdown is really getting to some people.
Posted by: SMH at March



I have been in big cities and tiny towns. I have no understanding as to why somebody thinks that either is better than the other.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (HALdu)

87 75 What year is the Zappa/Mike Douglas show clip? Is that Kenny Rogers I saw?
Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (oOopB)
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Dude, that's Jimmy "J.J." Walker!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (Dc2NZ)

88 NEWS: Judge Dolly Gee in the 9th Circuit has ordered ICE to soon release all minors in custody over COVID-19. Not immediately, but they have until April 9th to submit plans. They're basing legal ruling on Flores settlement.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (zqs/f)

89 78 No I think the idea (assumed by many all along) is that the heathen Chi-neee are greatly under-reporting #s. I think there, and in Iran, you're getting the old double whammy - a system that doesn't have a grip on the true numbers, with the lies and distortions of a corrupt dictatorship on top (lies to each other, not just the outside world).
Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (El6T/)


Whoa whoa whoa. Are you saying dictatorships lie? Gotta go to the fainting couch to try to assimilate this strange claim.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (dOV9E)

90 Those titties and beer are not practicing safe social distancing.

GOOD GOSHWOW I am tired of "social distancing," and everything it entails.

Hi. How are you this evening?

Posted by: mindful webworker
Congregation and Contagion
at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (Sr48m)

91 Lizzy, remember it well (the DC Sniper dance). Think my go-to gas station was in Arlington, pretty "contained" surroundings, no long sight lines for, um, you know.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (El6T/)

92 BC -

Try a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum ...

Comedy tonight !!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (LPnfS)

93 Splunge

Yes. I had the same experience. My 12-yr-old loved their act, but he was too shy to shake hands with them.

They own their own theatre at the Rio, btw.

They are capitalists.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (Cssks)

94 89 NEWS: Judge Dolly Gee in the 9th Circuit has ordered ICE to soon release all minors in custody over COVID-19. Not immediately, but they have until April 9th to submit plans. They're basing legal ruling on Flores settlement.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (zqs/f)


I hope Golly Gee is OK with releasing them to Mexico.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (dOV9E)

95 Not a shock, they're complete and utter monsters, the Chicoms. And we enabled them so a few billionaires could get richer and richer...fuck them too

Posted by: CN at March




Kind of an oversimplification

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (HALdu)

96 {{{Ladyl}}}

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:07 PM (BiNEL)

97 My favorite part of the HQ is commenters wishing death and misery and destruction on other members of the Horde, or at least their AOs.

Meh. Added to the list of "ignored" long ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:08 PM (El6T/)

98 Tornado warning just as the ont hits.
Wht does that mean?

Posted by: f-5 at March 28, 2020 10:08 PM (/LQkF)

99 I have been in big cities and tiny towns. I have no understanding as to why somebody thinks that either is better than the other.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (HALdu)

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As have I.

I prefer living in rural areas, especially at times like these, though.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:08 PM (RU4sa)

100 66 Light rain coming down. If it were a bit colder it would be snow.
Posted by: davidt at March 28, 2020 10:03 PM (l3+k2)

It will be in about 3 hours.

Actually the rain is too hard for this amount of snow present here by us.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:08 PM (aA3+G)

101 Mmm. Drndls.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2020 10:08 PM (XVuno)

102 I like those old bulgemobiles! Those aren't ugly cars. Not an Aztek in the bunch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

103 Hrothgar--I thought you were snubbing me!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (TdMsT)

104 Good Evening Horde

Posted by: wing at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (JFzNN)

105 @93 - thank you!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (l9m7l)

106 The one pointing her tongue out towards me wants me, but I want the one behind her (with the scary-looking perfect chompers).
Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM


You want the one with the perfect teeth.
You'll settle for the one waggling her tongue.
You'll get Trigglypuff.

Posted by: Glitter at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (DMUuz)

107 County medical center in Minneapolis basically says on their website that you shouldn't bother asking for a test unless you're already falling outta bed sick.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (+oVP5)


Thus ensuring distorted numbers...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (BiNEL)

108 30 I love the Saturday night joke, MisHum.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 09:56 PM (TdMsT)
Seconded!

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (9hauA)

109 Ah, another frivolous, dangerous, lawless, baseless bit of court vandalism the administration will comply with without hesitation (most likely).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (El6T/)

110 As have I.

I prefer living in rural areas, especially at times like these, though.
Posted by: SMH at March


Strengths and weakness in both. Now we are in limbo between the two, however, not wishing harm for any Americans.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (HALdu)

111 I know this spreads like a wildfire, but if we aren't testing in numbers, what is the indicator that we need to declare disaster?
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (s9Eo

Federal funds now available.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (qyH+l)

112
46 So, my mama called me today, and wants me to come and cut her hair. I am not a hair stylist. She's fuckin' lonesome.

I talked to my sister, mostly to make sure she wouldn't hate me for the rest of my life if my mother somehow falls ill after this, and I am going to go and do my best to give her a haircut and cut her nails.

We have to live.
Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:00 PM (OX9vb)


You are a good child and she is lucky.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (pNxlR)

113 A neighbor friend of mine had an AMC Matador.

I swear to God I never seen him drive the damn thing.

It was always in his driveway when I was home. Ugliest car I have ever laid eyes on, shit brown and homely.

He became a dentist and went on to bang a lot of hot broads, so what do I know.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (Z+IKu)

114 3) Abbott & Costello

They & their wives socialized often and were good friends.

You may be thinking of Laurel & Hardy who had some personal differences.
Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 10:05 PM (LPnfS)


My wife has relatives that live in Abbott's old house in the San Fernando valley. We visited them once. The house is modest.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (aS1PU)

115 Abbott & Costello:

No, I'm NOT confusing them with Laurel & Hardy, or anybody else.

Costello resented Abbott's exponentially increasing alcoholism, & his frequent inability to show up for work.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (Cssks)

116 76 and 64

Cuomo is on tv every day acting like its the end of the world demanding federal resources and taking ventilators away from other states. And then his residents turn around and Pretend nothing is happening, going about their daily lives. Either STFU Cuomo or start enforcing this shit.

And Trump is now a resident of Florida not NYC.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (Gl2vL)

117 There does seem a hint of a trace that the UK might get upset with the
Chicoms. I wouldn't hold my breath for any useful action, however. The
5G thing might now be dead, which would be nice. But, UK. And BoJo.
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China might not even be first on their shitlist.

I was watching Midnight Edge's review of the last Star Trek Puke-hard episode, and when they got to a point discussing how badly timed STP's anti Brexit, anti OrangeMan message was, the panelists, several from Europe got to talking about what a shitshow the continent's response has been. Apparently everything useful that's been done was done locally, as the EU can't seem to make a decision. Further there was apparently a shipment of supplies bound for the UK that France simply seized "because they needed it."

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (kOpft)

118 iHrothgar--I thought you were snubbing me!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (TdMsT)


Never would I dream of such a thing, but I'm having trouble keeping up what with multiple threads and email traffic from my brother and sister tonight!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (BiNEL)

119
Not an Aztek in the bunch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (Dc2NZ)


How did that NOT make the list?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (pNxlR)

120 That reminds me -- those of us in the DC.N.VA/MD area remember a kind of shelter in place during the DC Snipers' shooting spree. That was fun, wondering if you'd be shot while gassing up your car, zig-zagging when you rushed from car to office, etc. Run, it's another white van at the end of he block!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:04 PM (bDqIh)

I remember! I think I had just moved away from the area to grad school but my siblings were still there. One of the shootings was really close to a good friend's place. It was pretty awful.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (9hauA)

121 Frank Zappa, is there anything more to say?

Posted by: Eromero at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (XhWtx)

122 114 A neighbor friend of mine had an AMC Matador.

I swear to God I never seen him drive the damn thing.

It was always in his driveway when I was home. Ugliest car I have ever laid eyes on, shit brown and homely.

He became a dentist and went on to bang a lot of hot broads, so what do I know.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2020 10:10 PM (Z+IKu)


The Matador was a hideous car! The Pacer came close. An aquarium on wheels.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

123 MisHum must be saving "Titties and Beer" for the final Zappa assault.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

124
Never would I dream of such a thing, but I'm having trouble keeping up what with multiple threads and email traffic from my brother and sister tonight!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (BiNEL)


Family first!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

125 NEWS: Judge Dolly Gee in the 9th Circuit has
ordered ICE to soon release all minors in custody over COVID-19. Not
immediately, but they have until April 9th to submit plans. They're
basing legal ruling on Flores settlement.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (zqs/f)

Can you cite that? She's a U.S. District Court Judge in CA and she did make a ruling back in 2018 relating to releasing minors who were in ICE custody.

Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 10:13 PM (nRNOc)

126 Nash Rambler. Pea green. Two tone.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (Cssks)

127 Cuomo is on tv every day acting like its the end of the world demanding federal resources and taking ventilators away from other states. And then his residents turn around and Pretend nothing is happening, going about their daily lives. Either STFU Cuomo or start enforcing this shit.

And Trump is now a resident of Florida not NYC.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March



1. you have no fucking clue what they are doing.

2. The Trump triva is bs, everybody knows that he moved his residency and everybody knows that he grew up and made everything he is in NY.

If you have some hate for Nyers you have the same for him. You do not get more ny as personalities go than him.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (HALdu)

128 But just think of all the money you saved with the cheap crap you bought from China and Bezos!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (BiNEL)

I avoid it whenever possible. I bought games from the 1970s for the grandsons, and I've bought sets of dishes, glasses, etc from the US. I buy US crafting supplies, and I go out of my way to avoid Chinese goods, going BC (before China) when needed. I work hard at this and I'd rather spend a bit more and not buy from the enemy (I also avoid Turkish products)

Some stuff is almost impossible to avoid, but even with the grandsons here all day, I bought some nice made in US phonics and spellers, and I have a lot of the HBJ books I bought for my own kids.
Yep, I get a few things from Amazon, but not as many from China as you'd think

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (ONvIw)

129 Lizzy, rhomboid, I occasionally bought gas at the Manassas Shell where one victim was shot. Whatever happened to Chief Moose, the flustrated-in-chief?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (qAYFA)

130 MisHum must be saving "Titties and Beer" for the final Zappa assault.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:13 PM (Dc2NZ)


Click the top picture.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (aS1PU)

131 But speaking of "sanctuary" lawlessness and insurrection, particularly funny - as in blood-boiling beyond words, and outrageous - for the corrupt idiot Cuomo to bellow "federal act of war!" about Trump's (oddly spitballed) idea of a quarantine on NY Metro area.

"Sanctuary" vandalism unleashes death, mayhem, and damage on America 24/7/365, states and municipalities declaring war on the rule of law and the welfare and safety of other states (as well as their own).

But DOJ is cutting off pocket-change amounts of grants to LE in those places.

That'll show 'em.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (El6T/)

132 124 MisHum must be saving "Titties and Beer" for the final Zappa assault.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

Tonight's mystery click

The Finale will be my favorite of all time!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (aA3+G)

133 The Matador was a hideous car! The Pacer came close. An aquarium on wheels.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

----------

The Pacer was, and remains, the car of the future.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (XVuno)

134 What's this about Germany holding Baby Ruth festivals?

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (COzlW)

135 Why aren't third world shitholes being affected by the Chinese Lung Aids?
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Covid-19 is primarily hitting old (60+) folks with frequently multiple underlying conditions. Third world shitholes don't have as many of those.

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (kOpft)

136 One metric the tin-foilers are throwing around, I'm not sure how well sourced, is that 20-30 million chinese cell phone accounts have "disappeared" since the Fun started. Now there are quite a few reasons actually why those numbers could be accurate without necessarily meaning lots and lots of dead people. But, nobody believes the official numbers coming out of China.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (RtI0W)

137 The Matador was a hideous car! The Pacer came close. An aquarium on wheels.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)
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Hahaha!

A comedian once said the Pacer was proof that everybody on the design team was a stoner. Dude, we can have windows wrapping around the car! We can see if there are cops following us! *bong rip*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (Dc2NZ)

138

The Western New York regional director for both Sens. Hillary Clinton and Kirsten Gillibrand has lost her job at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute after telling Trump supporters on Facebook that if COVID-19 is just a hoax they should refuse ventilators and just "chew some ibuprofen" if they've contracted the virus.

The Buffalo News reports that Laura Krolczyk, Roswell Park's vice president for external affairs, was fired after an investigation into her remarks, while a co-worker, Lisa LaTrovato, is on leave for her comments, which were publicized by Michael Caputo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (aKsyK)

139
Either STFU Cuomo or start enforcing this shit.


You want Snake Pliskin?

Not enforcing "keep your asses in NY" is how you'll get Snake Pliskin.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (pNxlR)

140 My favorite movie is Tremors. Not sure I need anything else.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (Lqy/e)

141 Hey, hey hey I am downloading Abbott and Costello because of reputation.

"Hold that Ghost" #2 is unavailable. The rest seems predictable.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (l9m7l)

142 Release them in Paraguay.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (E2o2V)

143 Thanks, Ladyl, and ALH. I haven't seen her in a couple of weeks, and neither has anyone else, and her church is shut down, and she needs company more than anything else.

Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (OX9vb)

144 117 76 and 64

Cuomo is on tv every day acting like its the end of the world demanding federal resources and taking ventilators away from other states. And then his residents turn around and Pretend nothing is happening, going about their daily lives. Either STFU Cuomo or start enforcing this shit.

And Trump is now a resident of Florida not NYC.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:11 PM (Gl2vL)

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And the COBs and other Hordelings that reside there should burn because you're mad?

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (RU4sa)

145 If you have some hate for Nyers you have the same for him. You do not get more ny as personalities go than him.
Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (HALdu)

And NY has treated him like shit, so that's another strike against "the city" IMO

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (ONvIw)

146 Either STFU Cuomo or start enforcing this shit.

You want Snake Pliskin?

Not enforcing "keep your asses in NY" is how you'll get Snake Pliskin.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March




under what authority was he going to do this?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (HALdu)

147
A comedian once said the Pacer was proof that everybody on the design team was a stoner. Dude, we can have windows wrapping around the car! We can see if there are cops following us! *bong rip*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM (Dc2NZ)


I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (TdMsT)

148 My mom used technique #11.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (I2/tG)

149
The Western New York regional director for both Sens. Hillary Clinton and Kirsten Gillibrand has lost her job at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute after telling Trump supporters on Facebook that if COVID-19 is just a hoax they should refuse ventilators and just "chew some ibuprofen" if they've contracted the virus.


Nasty hires nasty -- who knew?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (pNxlR)

150 And NY has treated him like shit, so that's another strike against "the city" IMO
Posted by: CN at March



do you know what these words mean used in the way you have?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (HALdu)

151 Well ok, well past my bedtime. Happy trails.

Posted by: Eromero at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (XhWtx)

152 128

Dude wtf? Chill lol.
Look around Twitter there are tons of people posting this. Nyers are all LOLGF to the shelter in place order. Which is cool, do what you want. Just wish Cuomo would stfu up about it. Its obviously not the big deal he is making it out to be.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (Gl2vL)

153 "I like those old bulgemobiles!"

Me too.

Posted by: Drink Like Barky Gaylord McJugeared Fuckstick at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (qAYFA)

154 Some states are pulling over motorists suspected of being newyorkers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (E2o2V)

155 88:Dude, that's Jimmy "J.J." Walker!


I noticed. Mike Douglas had an interesting mix on his shows.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (oOopB)

156 Hear about the anti-theft feature on the Yugo?

They made the nameplate bigger.

(rimshot!)

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (Cssks)

157 I have been in big cities and tiny towns. I have no understanding as to why somebody thinks that either is better than the other.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (HALdu)


I don't like big cities. The only thing going for them is a variety of cuisines and the fact you can walk and get some exercise getting to places.

I like seeing green, hence my love of suburbs and rural-ish areas. And never having to parallel park.

However, most people I know wonder why I live here.

It's all personal preference.

But of course, my opinion is the correct one.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (9hauA)

158 Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:16 PM (HALdu)

Your act got old ages ago.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (aS1PU)

159 And the COBs and other Hordelings that reside there should burn because you're mad?

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (RU4sa)
\

Yes! I have a dear niece in NYC, working from her apartment home there for now!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (BiNEL)

160
Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (HALdu)


Give it a rest, you argumentative turd.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (pNxlR)

161 The execrable Talia Levin is explaining on Twitter that placing any restrictions on the movement of New Yorkers is anti-Semitic.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (I2/tG)

162 144 Thanks, Ladyl, and ALH. I haven't seen her in a couple of weeks, and neither has anyone else, and her church is shut down, and she needs company more than anything else.
Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (OX9vb)


Can you Face Time or Skype with her?

My kids call almost everyday and Face Time. I've seen more of them in the last two weeks than I usually do in two months!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (TdMsT)

163 Great ONT, Mis Hum!Great Okoberfest photo too! That is one big party. And your song is totally appropriate for the photo!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (WFcrO)

164 just read some of Garth Ellis' "Crossed" comics.

wtf?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (ykYG2)

165 Jimmy Walker, Kenny rogers? and Frank Zappa, right outta the Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Eromero at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (XhWtx)

166 Hey everybody.

How many freaking editions of You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore were there anyway? Seems like a billion. It's the same with Dylan's Basement Tapes editions. Sony/Columbia will probably keep releasing those for another 50 years.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (L2ZTs)

167 >>Cuomo is on tv every day acting like its the end of the world demanding federal resources and taking ventilators away from other states. d


Cuomo and other governors who had been b#tching about Trump not sending supplies changed their tunes after the one-two punch of AG Barr announcing he would prosecute those who hoarded supplies + National Guard and other feds helpfully "finding" two warehouses holding NY's excess ventilators.

Trump is not going to let another Puerto Rico Democrat mayors scam happen during this pandemic.

Second. considering that a lot of the NY'ers who are fleeing the city and bringing the Wuhan flu with them are running to their vacation homes in posh places like Martha's Vineyard, I am guessing that these are Cuomo's friends and donors, IYKWIM. If it were the riffraff fleeing Cuomo would probably be a harda$$ -- but don't you dare restrict the flight of NYC's richest/VIPs, amirite?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (bDqIh)

168 Dude wtf? Chill lol.
Look around Twitter there are tons of people posting this. Nyers are all LOLGF to the shelter in place order. Which is cool, do what you want. Just wish Cuomo would stfu up about it. Its obviously not the big deal he is making it out to be.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March




that is your evidence?

some twitter vids?

shelter in place in ny means the same thing as everywhere else.

you go out for essential needs.

In NY that means you are walking, taking a cab, whatever.

the wtf is you and your violent hate.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (HALdu)

169 But of course, my opinion is the correct one.
Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (9hauA)


No shit

Posted by: Says the guy who lives in the middle of nowhere at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (aA3+G)

170 Oops, per Wiki there were only 6 editions of the Zappa YCDTOSA. Better than the endless parade of Dylan boxes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (L2ZTs)

171 You want Northern
You'd settle for Charmin
You'd settle for corn cobs
You'll get pages from James Comey's book

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (dOV9E)

172 165 Great ONT, Mis Hum!Great Okoberfest photo too! That is one big party. And your song is totally appropriate for the photo!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (WFcrO)


Thanks LS.

Once in awhile a plan comes together...........

Posted by: Says the guy who lives in the middle of nowhere at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

173 Frank Zappa was an interesting cat.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (oOopB)

174 The Pacer was, and remains, the car of the future.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2020 10:14 PM


Excuse me?

Posted by: Pontiac Aztek at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (DMUuz)

175 Nyers want to ignore reality? Fine by me. But then stop stealing resources from the rest of the country.

Plenty of hospitals. In Dallas or Atlanta or Santa Fe would gladly take it.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (Gl2vL)

176 Off nowhere sock.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

177 thank you for the squirrel joke
I loled.at the Catholic bit - so true

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (G546f)

178 But of course, my opinion is the correct one.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (9hauA)


It must be since I agree with you!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM (BiNEL)

179 I do wonder about the legal basis for state law enforcement enforcing quarantine orders on people based on .... what? Your license plate? Your driver's license?

Realistically, waaay deep down in the darkest reserves of emergency powers, the guvamint/states *do* need some way to physically limit movement in the event of a catastrophic pandemic.*

I just wonder if there's any legal basis for it now.

* not entering the taffy yank over the current one, just talking in theory, say some kind of much more contagious ebola was actually afoot in one or two cities in the US but there was a window to contain it there

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM (El6T/)

180 My mum used Technique #114...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM (7WaWV)

181 I was just reading. The UK govt. is estimating that the Chicoms are lying by a factor of 15 - 50 in their official Bat Flu numbers. I assume that's the assumption all over the world.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 09:49 PM (f1Vqw)

My hunch is that the number actually dead of the BatFlu is much, much smaller than the number of "undesirables" liquidated under cover of BatFlu. And I suspect many of those horrifying videos were made and released by the Chicom propaganda ministry for the express purpose of scaring Western nations into needlessly tanking their economies. And it worked a treat, didn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM (miJU3)

182 There is not going to be a lot of sleep in my neck of the woods! Lightning like a MOFO & the storms are training over the same area !

Posted by: WuHAN Solo at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM (i0Vo7)

183
158 Hear about the anti-theft feature on the Yugo?

They made the nameplate bigger.

(rimshot!)
Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (Cssks)


OMG. The Yugo.

I'd forgotten about that little catastrophe.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (TdMsT)

184 My favorite movie is Tremors. Not sure I need anything else.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

*fistbump* Great movie. I got the DVD set of all 4; yikes, only the first was necessary.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (qAYFA)

185 If it were the riffraff fleeing Cuomo would probably be a harda$$ -- but don't you dare restrict the flight of NYC's richest/VIPs, amirite?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:19 PM (bDqIh)

You're right and many more people would get out if they had a place to go and the money to finance it. I just hope they don't spread the disease by refusing to accept the possibility they have it and refuse to isolate.

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (ONvIw)

186 My folding bed wouldn't go into the couch...oh....found the cat.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (rF8nX)

187 I had to buy third rate bum wipe today. It was all they had, & it was one 4-roll package per customer, too.

Ask not what your country can do for you...

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (Cssks)

188 yay Tremors!!!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (G546f)

189 Hi, all. Way too drunk to comment sensibly. But I would love to know your top ten genre lists (Comedy, Horror, Sci-Fi, etc.)

Looking forward to the James Madison and other's riffs who will prove me wrong.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (l9m7l)

190 170

Bro just stop. These pics and vids are from parks all over the city. Dudes working out, people playing soccer, playing basketball, large groups sitting together on the grass, etc. it is not essential needs LOL.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (Gl2vL)

191 >>>181. Realistically, waaay deep down in the darkest reserves of emergency powers, the guvamint/states *do* need some way to physically limit movement in the event of a catastrophic pandemic.*


No. Just. Fuck. No.

They are pulling off shit they have no right to do now.
Wait until Climate Change is killing our world in less than 12 years.



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (aA3+G)

192 But of course, my opinion is the correct one.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 28, 2020 10:17 PM (9hauA)

You're a damn smart woman, chique

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (ONvIw)

193 Did the Federal Reserve recently actually become Federal.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (E2o2V)

194 Even I knew what that opening pic/click was gonna be.

It is so nice to see Mr. Zappa on the ONT. Thank you MisHum.

Posted by: cfo mom at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (RfzVr)

195 188 My folding bed wouldn't go into the couch...oh....found the cat.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (rF8nX)


***SNORT***

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (aA3+G)

196 *fistbump* Great movie. I got the DVD set of all 4; yikes, only the first was necessary.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 10:23 PM (qAYFA)

Helen Shaver had a nice ass in those jeans in Tremors 2.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (ufFY8)

197 The ugly car article was vastly entertaining to me. I don't know Jack about cars, not even styling, but the article makes me wish i did. I want to read more by Aaron gold.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (gwAtf)

198

They are pulling off shit they have no right to do now.
Wait until Climate Change is killing our world in less than 12 years.



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (aA3+G)


Such a VERY good point.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (TdMsT)

199 Tremors: it's been a while since I've seen Fred Ward in anything. He's still working though. Checked his IMDB page. Solid actor.

Posted by: Puddleglum, W Penn expat at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (oOopB)

200 No. Just. Fuck. No.

They are pulling off shit they have no right to do now.

...
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (aA3+G)


Agreed.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (aS1PU)

201 Once in awhile a plan comes together...........
Posted by: Says the guy who lives in the middle of nowhere at March 28, 2020 10:21 PM (aA3+G)


Where is Misanthropic Humanitarian, and what have you done with him?

Posted by: Intragalactic Yoko Ono Artistries Appreciation Associationists, AoSHQ Claques at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (DMUuz)

202 Weird female voices outside. Keeping the door closed. Seems like the best strategy.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (l9m7l)

203
The county parks department took down all the basketball rims in its parks here.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (pNxlR)

204 Our shelter in place started on March 20th and is supposed to be through April 20th. Legally enforceable according to our local country guidance. Barely ten days in and I see families camping in the park and having cook outs.. hardly sheltering in place at all.

Posted by: IC at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (sYDum)

205 Dang. Gonna dream about bloody Mary's for breakfast now. I made dill pickles spears last fall that are long enough to jut 2" out of a pint glass, perfect for this libation. I never saw him put 'hot sauce' in his during the demonstration, but Cholua is not hot, go for the Tabasco, champ.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (Vy7tf)

206 138 The Matador was a hideous car! The Pacer came close. An aquarium on wheels.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

And about the same era the BMW 1974 3.0 CS with it's "greenhouse" windows is beautiful, the "art director's car".

Posted by: getting das banned back together at petersen's museum at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (gbSrY)

207 These "experts" are gonna get even more people killed, imho.


New York Health Commissioner Tells People Not To Follow White House Coronavirus Guidance

https://tinyurl.com/vqqob8w

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (RU4sa)

208 Saturday night joke was funny.

The Bloody Mary video was helpful, ok also funny.

The moral support was appreciated, ok, also funny.

Thanks Mis Hum!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (Rz2Nc)

209 >>You want Northern
You'd settle for Charmin
You'd settle for corn cobs
You'll get pages from James Comey's book



Heh. I have a 12-pack of Scott picked up at the grocery store on a whim right before the SHTF that is my absolute last resort.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (bDqIh)

210 205
The county parks department took down all the basketball rims in its parks here.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (pNxlR)


Yes, yes, let's crawl under our rocks and stop living

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (aA3+G)

211 d about the same era the BMW 1974 3.0 CS with it's "greenhouse" windows is beautiful, the "art director's car".
Posted by: getting das banned back together at petersen's museum at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (gbSrY)


Dang. I don't remember that. I'll look it up.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (TdMsT)

212 When things get scary in the US, the first thing most of us think about is pooping.

Lord I hope I'm not the first to this:

"THIS COUNTRY HAS GONE TO SHIT!"

And I happen to like Zappa. Well, some of Zappa. I mean, his good stuff. Y'know?

Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2020 10:27 PM (NiXyF)

213 OMG! That Bloody Mary mixing just got to be a bit much. Was laughing so hard that I had to stop the tape before an, um, accident occurred!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:28 PM (WFcrO)

214 Nyers saying LOLGF to isolating themselves. Looks really essential right?

https://tinyurl.com/rde4zwz

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:28 PM (Gl2vL)

215 I like Scott tissue.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 28, 2020 10:28 PM (E2o2V)

216 Thanks for the ONT.

Ease up on Kazi a bit. She is giving you a reason to post Zappa. if nothing else.

I also wonder about the underlying cause and effect of all this shit.

All I know that the first week has felt like the first real vacation I have had in a long time (it is amazing, not having to keep tabs on the work phone.) I am already getting more than a touch bored. Not built for the dole, I think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:28 PM (QrImU)

217 The Matador was a hideous car! The Pacer came close. An aquarium on wheels.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:12 PM (TdMsT)

The first speeding ticket I ever got was in my uncle's Gremlin. He had the wrong size tires on it, so he said, and the speedometer was reading wrong.

I was 16.

Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:28 PM (OX9vb)

218 So where is all the toilet paper? Please talk me out of my first guess, which is "in the garages of stupid people."
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 09:55 PM (dOV9E)

Ooooh! Oooh! An idea. Get a plain white van. Put a rotating "radar antenna" on top. Apply magnetic signs that read, "U.S. Department of Commerce Toilet Paper Detector". Dress in dark suits, wear shades. Cruise through neighborhoods, slowly. Have video cameras rolling.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM (miJU3)

219 I like Scott Adams' take about all this...unpleasantness.

This is a good time to maintain some humility about how ridiculous it is to believe any of us, including experts, know exactly the best thing to do and how soon to do it. We'll be guessing and correcting to the win. Some of us will later seem psychic, but we don't know who NOW.

My basic reaction is that I know almost nothing, and I'm really interested to observe how different people react to having not enough information. What surprised me most is how high a proportion of people lunge for certainty, when there is none to be had.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM (dOV9E)

220 They are pulling off shit they have no right to do now.
Wait until Climate Change is killing our world in less than 12 years.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (aA3+G)
Such a VERY good point.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:25 PM (TdMsT)


Comrades, would we impose increasingly onerous restrictions on your behavior if it was NOT for your own good?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM (BiNEL)

221 221 Ooooh! Oooh! An idea. Get a plain white van. Put a rotating "radar antenna" on top. Apply magnetic signs that read, "U.S. Department of Commerce Toilet Paper Detector". Dress in dark suits, wear shades. Cruise through neighborhoods, slowly. Have video cameras rolling.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM (miJU3)


Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to contribute to your Kickstarter.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:30 PM (dOV9E)

222 Anything fun happening?

Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:31 PM (E6tRR)

223 Well I am a dime-store totalitarian at heart, so there's that.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:31 PM (El6T/)

224 "Tremors" was a very clever little low budget flick.

So was "Night of the Comet":

(after hunky young dude doesn't make a pass at the 2 Valley Girls): "He's either a gentleman or a fag. What are the odds?"

(after hunky young dude gives one of the Valley Girls a .38 Special): "Daddy would've gotten me an Uzi."

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:31 PM (Cssks)

225 221 Ooooh! Oooh! An idea. Get a plain white van. Put a rotating
"radar antenna" on top. Apply magnetic signs that read, "U.S. Department
of Commerce Toilet Paper Detector". Dress in dark suits, wear shades.
Cruise through neighborhoods, slowly. Have video cameras rolling.



Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM (miJU3)



Don't forget the earpieces. And the wristwatches they talk into.

Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 10:32 PM (nRNOc)

226 Zappa inoculated against the woke virus when i was 14.

Thank you Mr Zappa.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:32 PM (rF8nX)

227
Watching "The Wrecking Crew" movie on YouTube. Very interesting and entertaining.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:32 PM (pNxlR)

228 They are pulling off shit they have no right to do now.

Wait until Climate Change is killing our world in less than 12 years.

---

And they'll continue as long as we keep going along with it. Which is why we were arguing against the empty symbolism of everyone wearing masks everywhere earlier, when we now know that the real projections for kung flu show it as no worse than a flu season.

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 10:33 PM (kOpft)

229 226 Well I am a dime-store totalitarian at heart, so there's that.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:31 PM (El6T/)

But, you are our dime-store totalitarian.
So you do have that going for you.



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:33 PM (aA3+G)

230 Hello, Horde!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 28, 2020 10:33 PM (OuZMr)

231 Things are probably OK.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (l9m7l)

232 Get a plain white van. Put a rotating "radar antenna" on top. Apply magnetic signs that read, "U.S. Department of Commerce Toilet Paper Detector". Dress in dark suits, wear shades. Cruise through neighborhoods, slowly. Have video cameras rolling.


***********

You should have about 10 squares of TP hanging out the back door, just for grins.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (m45I2)

233 The Triumph is kinda cool. The rest of those cars...yeah pretty bad.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (Gl2vL)

234 Beckoning Chasm - I'll play!

Blazing Saddles
The Chosen
Fiddler On the Roof
1776
The Sting
Gone With the Wind
The King and I
Airplane


Eh, that's enough. Too hard to whittle down the last two.

Posted by: cfo mom at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (RfzVr)

235 I saw on Facebook that you can grow TP in a little jar of water, buy propping an empty roll in it with toothpicks.

Has anyone tried that?

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (TdMsT)

236
226 Well I am a dime-store totalitarian at heart, so there's that.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:31 PM (El6T/)


Wouldn't give up your seat at the Woolworth's counter, hunt?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (pNxlR)

237 Again, for your edification and amusement:

https://tinyurl.com/yx2defxh

"The Trebant is the Best Commie Car Made from Cotton We've Ever Driven"

The Trabant is a triumph of making something from nothing. They didn’t even have enough steel to build the bodies out of, so Trabant engineers developed what was the first large-scale application of recycling to solve this problem: they took cotton waste from the Soviet Union (think Breshnev’s old underpants) and phenol resins from the dye industry and used that to make Duroplast, the fiberglass-like stuff Trabant bodies were made from.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

238 Hi {{{Teresa}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (TdMsT)

239 Comrades, would we impose increasingly onerous restrictions on your behavior if it was NOT for your own good?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM


Could we at least get the chocolate ration increased?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (DMUuz)

240 209 - This is why even those favorably disposed to NYC have lost all patience with it.

Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (E6tRR)

241
I don't like big cities. The only thing going for them is a variety of cuisines and the fact you can walk and get some exercise getting to places.

I like seeing green, hence my love of suburbs and rural-ish areas. And never having to parallel park.

But of course, my opinion is the correct one.
Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself


I don't like tall buildings (claustrophobic view blocking), one-way streets and having to pay to park.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (aKsyK)

242 Lots of folks back East, they say, is leavin' home every day
Beatin' the hot old dusty way to the California line
'Cross the desert sands they roll, gettin' out of that old dust bowl
They think they're goin' to a sugar bowl but here's what they find
California installed the CHP at the border during the Dust Bowl to try and stem the tide of Okies and everybody looking for work. Legal? Doubtful, but they did it anyway. They required anyone wanting to enter the state to have something like $1500 cash, which was a tidy sum in those days. Woody Guthrie wrote a song about it. "Do Re Mi" = cabbage


Now the police at the port of entry say
"You're number fourteen thousand for today"

Oh, if you ain't got the do re mi folks you ain't got the do re mi
Why you better go back to beautiful Texas
Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee

California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see
But believe it or not you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi

Posted by: Common Tater at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (RtI0W)

243 I think the last Woolworth's I saw was actually in Tijuana, when I was a yute (a few geologic epochs back).

Don't think we ever went in.

TG&Y was kinda similar - no lunch counter, though. We had those in SoCal.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (El6T/)

244 238 I saw on Facebook that you can grow TP in a little jar of water, buy propping an empty roll in it with toothpicks.

Has anyone tried that?
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (TdMsT)

---

0_o

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (RU4sa)

245

I have sand paper in the shop finer grit than this hospital toilet paper... Judas Priest, it's like Home Improvement for my ass...

Posted by: Ima Pseudonym at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (qul7b)

246 Has anyone tried that?

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (TdMsT)


A. You really need a grow light.
B. I find MiracleGrow in the water really helps!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (BiNEL)

247 242 Comrades, would we impose increasingly onerous restrictions on your behavior if it was NOT for your own good?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM

Could we at least get the chocolate ration increased?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (DMUuz)


There always has to be one.

Posted by: Major Hochstetter and The Gestapo Band at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (aA3+G)

248 Comrades, would we impose increasingly onerous restrictions on your behavior if it was NOT for your own good?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM

Could we at least get the chocolate ration increased?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (DMUuz)
* * * *

Hear, hear!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (WFcrO)

249 @237 - thank you!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:37 PM (l9m7l)

250 Cause i make my own toilet paper....flies are flocking to me like women.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:37 PM (rF8nX)

251 >>I like Scott Adams' take about all this...unpleasantness.


He has been a welcome, calm voice of reason. I really appreciate his positive outlook and how he is highlighting the innovation and ingenuity happening amidst all the doom, gloom and panic.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (bDqIh)

252 I do wonder about the legal basis for state law enforcement enforcing quarantine orders on people based on .... what? Your license plate? Your driver's license?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:22 PM


Will the jury pool for any future lawsuits be citizens of New York or citizens of the state where the New Yorkers are bringing disease?

Posted by: Chuck C at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (r6GXX)

253 AMC cars were teh shit!

Had a '74 Hornet, back in the day. It was (I dunno the actual name of the color) what I called Bug-guts Green-- somewhere between lime green and chartreuse, I guess.

Funny thing about it: it apparently had a safety interlock on the ignition system: had to have a certain amount of weight on the front (bench) seat in order to start it... Only, hahaha, it malfunctioned so that everyone in front had to lift their asses OFF the front seat before it would start!

I suppose it was due to previous owner disabling the seatbelt alarm, but who knows...

Posted by: JQ at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (whOIk)

254 242 Comrades, would we impose increasingly onerous restrictions on your behavior if it was NOT for your own good?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:29 PM

Could we at least get the chocolate ration increased?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (DMUuz)

It just was, from 30 grams to 20.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (NWiLs)

255
A. You really need a grow light.
B. I find MiracleGrow in the water really helps!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (BiNEL)


I never have any luck with propagation! All the braggarts on FB we're showing their little sprouting rolls of TP.

It really brought me down.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (TdMsT)

256
248
I have sand paper in the shop finer grit than this hospital toilet paper... Judas Priest, it's like Home Improvement for my ass...
Posted by: Ima Pseudonym at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (qul7b)


Why are you in hospital?

RRA: raw, red asshole.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (pNxlR)

257 This is why even those favorably disposed to NYC have lost all patience with it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM


Well, that and the stuff they try to pass off as salsa.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (DMUuz)

258

fk!

Posted by: JQ at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (whOIk)

259
The dollar's status as reserve currency is what has allowed us to get away with the runaway federal debt train for so long. And it will continue until it stops. I have no idea when that will be, but it can't go on forever and will stop at some point.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:38 PM (rCwaK)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (pNxlR)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (DMUuz)

262 Judas Priest, it's like Home Improvement for my ass...
Posted by: Ima Pseudonym at March 28, 2020 10:36 PM (qul7b)

Who's the Tool Time Guy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (QrImU)

263 There is no Barrel like ONT Barrel, JQ.

Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (NiXyF)

264 243 209 - This is why even those favorably disposed to NYC have lost all patience with it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (E6tRR)

---

No doubt.

I'm not exactly a fan of NYC myself.

Especially the NYC "leadership".

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (RU4sa)

265 It's all Good, Man!

Posted by: Pete Seria at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (7ZQe3)

266 "Which is why we were arguing against the empty symbolism of everyone wearing masks everywhere earlier,"

Medically proven to limit the spread of aerosolised germs.

"when we now know that the real projections for kung flu show it as no worse than a flu season."

You know nothing. Less than nothing.
twitter.com/InfectiousDz/status/1244058064283668482

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (ykYG2)

267 Could we at least get the chocolate ration increased?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM (DMUuz)


We have assembled a panel of experts to figure out exactly how much the next increase will be!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (BiNEL)

268 I just saw a commercial a new series starring Jennifer Connelly. She looks like she is aging naturally, which is really refreshing nowadays.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (6ofTb)

269 *grabs last can of Lysol*

*heads to teh Barrel*

Aw, hell....

Posted by: JQ at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (whOIk)

270 Teh Barrel... It hungers...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (7WaWV)

271 The good news is that the Barrel is disinfected regularly. The last time was 2006, I think.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (dOV9E)

272
Whew! Thought that was me!

** pushes JQ into barrel **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (pNxlR)

273 another graph for idiots
twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1244014016067964928

Project the U.S. line forward just 7 days, and we'll be at 10,000 deaths in total. Project it forward a week after that, and we'll be at 10,000 per day

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (ykYG2)

274 I like those old bulgemobiles! Those aren't ugly cars. Not an Aztek in the bunch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

That was a particularly lame article, wasn't it? I owned a Crosley, once, but it was a '48, which had a nicer grille, and a cast iron engine, which was the best part of the car (and went on being made, for various uses, long after the demise of the car).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (miJU3)

275 {{{Insom}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

276 Tremors is a gem.

Watched another silly B movie today - "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse". Then there's "Attack the Block" a British chavs vs. aliens flick.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (bDqIh)

277 I'm issuing whatever the pope issues, dispensations, indulgences, get out of barrel free cards tonight.

Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)

278 Ladyl!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (NWiLs)

279 This is why even those favorably disposed to NYC have lost all patience with it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:35 PM

That and the demand that ventilators and supplies be stolen from other states, because Andrew and Howie chose triage over purchases

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (ONvIw)

280 271 I just saw a commercial a new series starring Jennifer Connelly. She looks like she is aging naturally, which is really refreshing nowadays.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:39 PM (6ofTb)


I admire your ability to forgive actresses who have breast reductions. I hope to aspire to that level of saintliness someday.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (dOV9E)

281 Good news JQ. The Barrel is the only place on the planet coronavirus is afraid to go.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (m45I2)

282 Put my pole saw to good use today and burned some of the branches plus some weeds. Tomorrow is set aside for fun plus I should do some laundry. At least with the WFH that laundry is reduced.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (K78+l)

283 If one of the results of CoronaPanic is a serious and lasting worldwide reduction in the trust of Experts and Politicians, it will be worth whatever economic cost we will have to endure.

If the ChiComs wind up getting roasted and eaten by their Chinese victims, that would just be added entertainment benefit. (This has happened before in Chinese history, btw.)

Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (NiXyF)

284 Ooooh! Oooh! An idea. Get a plain white van. Put a rotating "radar antenna" on top. Apply magnetic signs that read, "U.S. Department of Commerce Toilet Paper Detector". Dress in dark suits, wear shades. Cruise through neighborhoods, slowly. Have video cameras rolling.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Might as well print up some magnetic signs that say "Immigration Enforcement Strike Force" - its an election year

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2020 10:42 PM (B7KlG)

285 274 The good news is that the Barrel is disinfected regularly. The last time was 2006, I think.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (dOV9E)



I cleaned it a couple of weeks ago.

But it's probably going to need it again.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 10:42 PM (TdMsT)

286 I feel like Alice Cooper slipping out of a straight jack into a short sleeved straight jacket.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:42 PM (rF8nX)

287 Somebody toss a roll of TP in the barrel for JQ, please.

Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (OX9vb)

288 That 125 ways to land a man? Number 76 would not be quite what it was in 1958.

Posted by: mercenary13 at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (r1mci)

289 publius, in theory, yes. Well actually, in practice, as to the "will go on forever until it can't" part.

I recall some monetary economists back when the Euro launched musing, more wistfully than optimistically, that if the Euro could gain some status as a reserve currency, it might exert a little bit of external discipline on the US and its money creation.

Well, that's gone just about as well as the rest of the EU experiment .....

Speaking of which, I actually have a fun/boutique/tiny position in a Euro-short ETF. Think it's at its all-time high since I bought it. Ever the dogged optimist, I'm hanging on for more - Brexit was a nice ratchet turn, waiting at least for another -exit, or maybe Germany's coming recession will finally force it to reduce its props to the wastrels and currency.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (El6T/)

290 141 My favorite movie is Tremors. Not sure I need anything else.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:15 PM (Lqy/e)

---------------------------------

You should watch the sequels. They're not as good as the original, and the second is definitely the weak link, but the others are good, campy fun.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (CAJOC)

291 I'm issuing whatever the pope issues, dispensations, indulgences, get out of barrel free cards tonight.

Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)
* * * *

Such benevolence, your Eminence! (grin)

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (WFcrO)

292 In the best of times, no sane person would listen or follow anything Governor Cuomo AssHead had to say.

So why would anyone do so in a "crisis".

He is a criminal bastard and should be in prison.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (Z+IKu)

293 I admire your ability to forgive actresses who have breast reductions. I hope to aspire to that level of saintliness someday.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (dOV9E)

Well I'm an 'ette so I never really noticed her boobs. But she's almost 50 and looks it, which is fine. Too many actresses ruining their faces nowadays.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (6ofTb)

294 290 Somebody toss a roll of TP in the barrel for JQ, please.
Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (OX9vb)


Sure, and while we're flaunting wealth, might as well throw in a couple of dozen Krugerrands while we're at it.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (dOV9E)

295 Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)

You good sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (BiNEL)

296 >>I just saw a commercial a new series starring Jennifer Connelly. She looks like she is aging naturally, which is really refreshing nowadays.

Paulina Poritzkova (sp?) was recently interviewed on CBS Sunday Morning is she is still lovely but looks her age - not an easy feat. Oh. and Rick Ocasek wrote her out of his will without telling her; uncool.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (bDqIh)

297 New Orleans would have canceled Mardi Gras if feds had taken coronavirus more seriously, Mayor says

https://tinyurl.com/woqjul6


Nagin was a rocket scientist compared to this bint.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (RU4sa)

298 Go ogle your bad self some "cuomo moreland commission"...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (7WaWV)

299 We dug into our strategic DVD reserves today and pulled out an old Burt Lancaster flick "The Flame and the Arrow". A rollicking Robin Hood knock-off set in Lombardy region of Italy. Lots of galloping horses, hostage taking, a troupe of acrobats and clowns storming the castle, "raise the portcullis", long range precision archery. damsels...you know...the works!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (m45I2)

300 I admire your ability to forgive actresses who have breast reductions. I hope to aspire to that level of saintliness someday.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (dOV9E)

We'll always have Career Opportunities.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (QrImU)

301 300 SMH

Stipulated.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (Cssks)

302 Your act got old ages ago.
Posted by: DR.WTF at March



heh, logic and reason getting to you?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (HALdu)

303 it's the end times

thank you, MisHum for providing awesome content
thank you

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (l9m7l)

304 The only car I bought new was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. My husband would give me a bad time about it. I'm not much of a car person.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (Lqy/e)

305 280 I'm issuing whatever the pope issues, dispensations, indulgences, get out of barrel free cards tonight.

Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)
--
Sounds like papal bull.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (Dc2NZ)

306 285 Put my pole saw to good use today

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (K78+l)

Phrasing!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (6ofTb)

307 I'm issuing whatever the pope issues, dispensations, indulgences, get out of barrel free cards tonight.
Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)


Marty's gonna have something to say about that:

https://ergofabulous.org/luther/?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)

308 BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (l9m7l)

Bladerunner
Delicatessen
Brazil

Harry Potter 3: Prisoner of Azkaban
Guardians of the Galaxy
Deadpool
Venom

Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Raising Arizona
Secondhand Lions
A Fish Called Wanda

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (LPnfS)

309 Pirate-themed metal with a hurdy gurdy solo?

Well, if you insist:

youtube.com/watch?v=ZCnttPJHt6s

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (m0Z7m)

310 296 Well I'm an 'ette so I never really noticed her boobs. But she's almost 50 and looks it, which is fine. Too many actresses ruining their faces nowadays.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (6ofTb)


Absolutely. Mrs. Splunge, who is in a profession that is normally face-to-face, but which is carried out on Zoom these days, had an interesting observation. She has met a number of women who, in person, look like hideous plastic surgery victims square in the Uncanny Valley. But on video, they look great.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (dOV9E)

311 I, ah..um..well, I maybe.

Aw, hell. It seems that the T.P. shortages are mostly my fault.

https://tinyurl.com/v3oacdy


Not one Chinese part in that baby, either!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (QzJWU)

312 Such benevolence, your Eminence! (grin)
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:43 PM (WFcrO)



298 Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)

You good sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (BiNEL)


Holds finger up to lips. Shhhhhhhhhh

Don't be going and saying that shit out loud.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (aA3+G)

313 doesn't matter nobody cares
--entries from my press agent

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (l9m7l)

314 257. Beckoning Chasm, I like 'All About Eve' and 'Laura'.

Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (E6tRR)

315 I GOT AN EMAIL from one of my banks that they closed a particular branch on March 20 because an employee tested positive for the Kung Flu. They were informing me thus because I was in that branch on March 7.

So that was 3 weeks ago. I have no symptoms.

Posted by: DB- just DB. Live from Pelican Bay! at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (iTXRQ)

316 If Porizkova needs to get away from it all and be consoled, give me a week's warning, and the number of a good divorce lawyer, and I'll see if I can step up to help.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (El6T/)

317 #15 still works, embassy girls are happy sluts

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (B7KlG)

318 >>>The Finale will be my favorite of all time!

I have been conjecturing on this. We all know what you have already covered. Hmmm, either a very well known song that MisHum has not as yet linked, or.... something very obscure.

But I bet it will be yuge and spectacular.

Posted by: cfo mom at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (RfzVr)

319 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.

Posted by: Ha at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (fWd7a)

320 Absolutely. Mrs. Splunge, who is in a profession that is normally face-to-face, but which is carried out on Zoom these days, had an interesting observation. She has met a number of women who, in person, look like hideous plastic surgery victims square in the Uncanny Valley. But on video, they look great.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (dOV9E)

Virtual Gynecologist?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (QrImU)

321 This is why even those favorably disposed to NYC have lost all patience with it.
Posted by: kallisto at March



Which is different from Michigan, Arizona how?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:48 PM (HALdu)

322 Sounds like papal bull.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM (Dc2NZ)
\

Eris, well done, I was racking my brain for a good comeback but failed miserably!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:48 PM (BiNEL)

323 323 Absolutely. Mrs. Splunge, who is in a profession that is normally face-to-face, but which is carried out on Zoom these days, had an interesting observation. She has met a number of women who, in person, look like hideous plastic surgery victims square in the Uncanny Valley. But on video, they look great.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:46 PM (dOV9E)

Virtual Gynecologist?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (QrImU)


Doxxing is impolite.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:48 PM (dOV9E)

324 322 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.
Posted by: Ha at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (fWd7a)

We will come and bring wuflu with us!

Posted by: Mario's welp at March 28, 2020 10:48 PM (ONvIw)

325 310 I'm issuing whatever the pope issues, dispensations, indulgences, get out of barrel free cards tonight.
Posted by: Pope Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (aA3+G)

Amnesty for the banned?

Posted by: getting the banned back together but with josie wales at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (SybiH)

326 New Orleans would have canceled Mardi Gras if feds had taken coronavirus more seriously if she could have blamed the feds for the cancellation, Mayor says

Fixed.

Posted by: Chuck C at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (r6GXX)

327 Virtual Gynecologist?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (QrImU)

Doxxing is impolite.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:48 PM (dOV9E)

Can't help it- I'm bored.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (QrImU)

328 Amnesty for the banned?
Posted by: getting the banned back together but with josie wales at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (SybiH)


Now you're just being silly, Silly.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (aA3+G)

329 Favorite Movies you say - defined as one's I watch whenever they're on:

In Harms Way with John Wayne
True Grit with John Wayne
Angel and the Badman with John Wayne
Longest Day with John Wayne and a bunch of others
Almost anything else with John Wayne
Vertigo - especially the Redwood tree scene - shivers just thinking of it
North by North West with Cary Grant
Indiscreet with Cary Grant
Almost anything else with Cary Grant
Ghost and Mr Chicken - Don Knotts
Sweet Home Alabama - Reese Whitherspoon
Battleship (wife rolls her eyes and leaves room when it's on)
Star Trek (the one where they return to San Francisco of the 1980's
The Long, Long Trailer (Lucy and Ricky)

Posted by: Anonymous Guy In Ca at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (RcMUX)

330 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.

---

This should be interesting.

Blue on blue.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (RU4sa)

331 322 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.
Posted by: Ha at March



Even if you hate them both that is a good thing for everybody.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (HALdu)

332 80 and 84 are still winners

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (B7KlG)

333 I admire your ability to forgive actresses who have breast reductions. I hope to aspire to that level of saintliness someday.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:41 PM (dOV9E)

Back in college someone on my dorm floor got a breast reduction over the Christmas break to help alleviate back pain. She was so happy with her results she literally flashed me and the guy standing beside me to show the results (there was still plenty left, though), even the scars.

Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (nRNOc)

334
Well I'm an 'ette so I never really noticed her boobs. But she's almost 50 and looks it, which is fine. Too many actresses ruining their faces nowadays.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (6ofTb)


Marcia Clark, led prosecutor for the OJ fiasco, has an investigative series on unsolved murders that is of fairly recent vintage (the series). Jeebus, she's had a LOT of work done on her face to the point where it looks like it would shatter if you struck it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (pNxlR)

335 You're all the best people.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (l9m7l)

336 Project the U.S. line forward just 7 days, and we'll be at 10,000 deaths in total. Project it forward a week after that, and we'll be at 10,000 per day.

Another virus groupie.

Oregon had all of 65 new cases today (479 total).

Because tests are limited, Oregon is testing only people with CCP virus symptoms. Five percent positive rate.

This doesn't stop virus groupies from saying that there are obviously tens of thousands of undiagnosed cases in Oregon, and WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!

Some people are really, really invested in having this virus kill a lot of people.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (I2/tG)

337 319 rhomboid

Anna Netrebko

AND... she can sing!

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (Cssks)

338 Medically proven to limit the spread of aerosolised germs.

---
Useless if the person wearing them isn't infected, which is still most everyone. This idea that everyone should be required to wear them outside the home is nothing more than superstition, and the desire to force conformity so that the superstitious don't feel silly and out of place as a result of their folly.


===


You know nothing. Less than nothing.

---

You're apparently illiterate.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=386533

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (kOpft)

339 Blue on blue.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:49 PM (RU4sa)


I'm hoping lots of people can discern (and remember) the colors we are seeing displayed!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (BiNEL)

340 Thirst!

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (vwf8z)

341 Many of those 1958 tips for finding a husband would expose you to serial killers.

"If a stranger has a cast on his arm and needs help getting a small sailboat onto a trailer, by all means go with him."

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (COzlW)

342 Is the idiot Cuomo (oh - the *less* stupid one, actually, the governor, just to clarify) also going to sue FL for their persecution of NYers?

A town so nice, they named it twice is putting on an interesting face these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (El6T/)

343 Even if you hate them both that is a good thing for everybody.
Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (HALdu)

How about: 'Especially if you hate them both, it is a good thing for everybody.'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (QrImU)

344 337 Marcia Clark, led prosecutor for the OJ fiasco, has an investigative series on unsolved murders that is of fairly recent vintage (the series). Jeebus, she's had a LOT of work done on her face to the point where it looks like it would shatter if you struck it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (pNxlR)


Did she stay in character by failing to nail every single one of the murderers?

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (dOV9E)

345 The only car I bought new was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. My husband would give me a bad time about it. I'm not much of a car person.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM


What is "positraction"?

Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)

346 This should be interesting.

Blue on blue.
Posted by: SMH at March



I t is a violation of the fourth. whoever thinks this is funny now because they hate nyers is going to have loads of fun when they start doing it to find guns.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (HALdu)

347 /off stupid sock from the aborted Ace thread earlier

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (vwf8z)

348 Back in college someone on my dorm floor got a breast reduction over the Christmas break to help alleviate back pain. She was so happy with her results she literally flashed me and the guy standing beside me to show the results (there was still plenty left, though), even the scars.
Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 10:50 PM (nRNOc)

I had a breast reduction, but didn't feel the need to flash anyone.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (6ofTb)

349

Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection. When Megxit takes official force, they are no longer covered by the agreement between the UK and US to protect each other's official VIPs.

It will be DJT who will make the call.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (rCwaK)

350 Is the country coming unglued?

Posted by: Elmer at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (fWd7a)

351 about the same era the BMW 1974 3.0 CS with it's "greenhouse" windows is beautiful, the "art director's car".
Posted by: getting das banned back together at petersen's museum at March 28, 2020 10:26 PM (gbSrY)


A very pretty car indeed, but proof, if proof were needed, that the Italians invented rust, but the Germans perfected it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (miJU3)

352 I unloaded the truck today, which I talked about this morning. And I started packing things away. I have been looking at this wrong. I was still trying to do things the way my husband and I were doing. But I don't need to do that. I am packing up my things and the things I want. The kids can deal with the rest of it plus the work that still needs to be done on the house. I'm going to focus on getting the river place cleaned iup and sold. I want to get out of here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (Lqy/e)

353
300 New Orleans would have canceled Mardi Gras if feds had taken coronavirus more seriously, Mayor says

https://tinyurl.com/woqjul6
Nagin was a rocket scientist compared to this bint.
Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:44 PM (RU4sa)


NOLA Mayor:

YOU are the mayor. YOU are in charge.

YOU ought to have made the call yourself, but YOU are such a child that YOU engage in blame casting.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (pNxlR)

354 Like big tits? Get 2 potato sacks. Fill with potatoes. Go to town in your Eldorado.

Zappa said ( before he died) more than a mouthful is wasted. Also a rock opera Tities and Beer. So he knows.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (rF8nX)

355 Beckoning Chasm,

Since I was late to the ONT, I have not gone back to read every answer, as I normally do. But one great movie that flew under the radar was "Secondhand Lions." Not sure it is in my personal top ten, but it's up there.

My top ten would include most Western movies.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (WFcrO)

356 353 Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (fWd7a)

We're sorry Mr Ed- it's time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (QrImU)

357 BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:24 PM (l9m7l)

Some of my all-time favorites:

Moonrise Kingdom
RED
Ip Man
Sin City
Bagdad Cafe
Grand Budapest Hotel
Daughters of the Dust
Hero
Night on Earth
Princess Bride

The list may change depending on my mood.

Posted by: April at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (OX9vb)

358 publius, I was reading about that. LOL.

Let's hope PDT makes Harry & MeMeMe-ghan's application process as prolonged, bureaucratic, awkward, humiliating and painful as possible.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (L2ZTs)

359 "The Trebant is the Best Commie Car Made from Cotton We've Ever Driven"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZao5KScuwE

Posted by: Miklos, former Trabi Pilot at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (QzkSJ)

360 It will be DJT who will make the call.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (rCwaK)

Thank God that pair have been so nice to Trump\\

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (ONvIw)

361 352

Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection.

==

that's a no from me
if I get a vote

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (G546f)

362 Project the U.S. line forward just 7 days, and we'll be at 10,000
deaths in total. Project it forward a week after that, and we'll be at
10,000 per day
---

Lulz at the very first comment.

And a month ? We will all be dead.....your math is highly questionable

But hey, if you believe everything you see in a chart, you already died due to global warming.

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (kOpft)

363 352 Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection. When Megxit takes official force, they are no longer covered by the agreement between the UK and US to protect each other's official VIPs.

It will be DJT who will make the call.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (rCwaK)


And her original plan was to stay in Canada until he was out of power. Can anyone name even one celebrity who has followed through on their "I can't even" threats to go somewhere, or not go somewhere, because of a Republican? All I know about is lots of threats, and 0 follow-through.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:54 PM (dOV9E)

364 You're all the best people.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Not all of them. Just the half without me.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (m0Z7m)

365 The only car I bought new was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. My husband would give me a bad time about it. I'm not much of a car person.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
------

Well, not such a bad choice. As an aside, each of the manufacturers had their own patented (or copyrighted/trademarked) name for their limited-slip differentials. In the case of American Motors, it was 'Powertrax'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (xSo9G)

366 344 Many of those 1958 tips for finding a husband would expose you to serial killers.

"If a stranger has a cast on his arm and needs help getting a small sailboat onto a trailer, by all means go with him."
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (COzlW)

"Are you about a size 14?"

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (NWiLs)

367 Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection.

Screw 'em - let them pay for their own protection.

Besides, I thought that they weren't going to move to the United States while OrangeManBad is president.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (I2/tG)

368 Posi-traction. It's not all wheel drive. Maybe more like two wheel drive. We special ordered it. You saw it on some cars in the 60s.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (Lqy/e)

369 >>North by North West with Cary Grant
Indiscreet with Cary Grant
Almost anything else with Cary Grant

Yes!

"Arsenic and Old Lace" - I fond myself giggling and saying "Chaaaaaaaarge!" when I see the latest Biden gaffe nowadays.

"Charade" and "Notorious" = Grant is smokin' with Ingrid Bergman in the latter

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (bDqIh)

370 Bone Tomahawk great used of dialogue from those days.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (rF8nX)

371 My 4-speed, dual quad, Positraction 409.

Giddyap 409.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (Cssks)

372 >>A very pretty car indeed, but proof, if proof were needed, that the Italians invented rust


Karmann Ghia is Italian for 'it's all a gonna a rust, anyway'.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 10:56 PM (b3UfL)

373 You are all of you, all of you, the best people ever. Yeah still drunk but love you all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:56 PM (l9m7l)

374 The only car I bought new was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. My husband would give me a bad time about it. I'm not much of a car person.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:45 PM

What is "positraction"?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin)

Is it related to the AWD on the Eagle

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (B7KlG)

375 I t is a violation of the fourth. whoever thinks this is funny now because they hate nyers is going to have loads of fun when they start doing it to find guns.
Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (HALdu)

---

I don't find soldiers going door to door looking for people funny in the least. Slippy slope turning into a waterslide, as far as I am concerned.

But this may be a silver lining, insofar as waking people the hell up.

Maybe...

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (RU4sa)

376 >>Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection.


IIRC, the Obamas have taken them under their wing and are advising them on becoming foundation/media moguls like themselves.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (bDqIh)

377 376 You are all of you, all of you, the best people ever. Yeah still drunk but love you all.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:56 PM (l9m7l)

I loooove ya man!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (s9Eo8)

378 I am so tired of trying to explain Modeling and Statistics to people.

They just see a scary number and go with it. You just can't talk sense to them.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (b3UfL)

379 Give it a rest, you argumentative turd.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 10:18 PM (pNxlR)



Yes! Name calling the mark of intelligence.

good for you. were you going to do animal noises or rude gestures for your encore?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (HALdu)

380 >>> 352

Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection. When Megxit takes official force, they are no longer covered by the agreement between the UK and US to protect each other's official VIPs.

It will be DJT who will make the call.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (rCwaK)

Fk them both.

What part of 'no titles of nobility' (even if they fake-dropped them) do they not understand?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (0ReGO)

381 Silly, thus you get:

767 hmm
No response.
times MH banned me, threatened me or otherwise fucked me over = 8
times WD banned me, threatened me or otherwise fucked me over = 0
My papers are not good on the ONT.
Only the elite are welcome there
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 10:32 PM (mw1Wz)

So I'll hold your coats while you fight.

Posted by: getting the banned back together cage match at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (SybiH)

382 344 Many of those 1958 tips for finding a husband would expose you to serial killers.

"If a stranger has a cast on his arm and needs help getting a small sailboat onto a trailer, by all means go with him."
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (COzlW)


Always good to meet someone else who has read the greatest non-fiction serial killer book ever, The Only Living Witness.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (dOV9E)

383 "You should have about 10 squares of TP hanging out the back door, just for grins."

Won't even get a bite of the donut for that much...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (6ljL8)

384

It's funny how Meggie bugged out her to the US as fast as her little ass could go when some serious shit came down. All that trashing of DJT and woke shit doesn't amount to much when one's ass is in danger, does it?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (rCwaK)

385 Damn should have signed off.

Signing off.

PS you are all better than Phil Collions

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (l9m7l)

386 OK, wow. ONT seems tense tonight.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (s9Eo8)

387 >>
What is "positraction"?


Positraction distributes the drive to the other wheel in the event of traction lost on one side. iirc.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (b3UfL)

388 Bone Tomahawk great used of dialogue from those days.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:55 PM (rF8nX)

I agree, but, holy hell, that movie had horrific moments that shook me. I am a jaded movie viewer, but, the fook!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (x8Wzq)

389 What is "positraction"?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin)

Is it related to the AWD on the Eagle
Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM


I am never going to make it as a comic, am I?

Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (r6GXX)

390 I don't find soldiers going door to door looking for people funny in the least. Slippy slope turning into a waterslide, as far as I am concerned.

But this may be a silver lining, insofar as waking people the hell up.

Maybe...

Posted by: SMH at March



If I suggested that you did it was in error, was using the "if you" thing in gen.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (HALdu)

391 379 >>Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection.


IIRC, the Obamas have taken them under their wing and are advising them on becoming foundation/media moguls like themselves.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (bDqIh)


Good. They deserve each other. Even Harry does, unless he finds his testicles and hoists himself out of this.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (dOV9E)

392 I'm watching "Atlantic Rim" on MST3K.

"More like Optimus Subprime, amirite?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (Dc2NZ)

393 is anyone else surreptitiously checking if they still have a sense of smell every few hours?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (G546f)

394 Has anyone seen RBG since things have gone cray cray?

Posted by: LOL at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (fWd7a)

395 The one truly remarkable thing about Frank Zappa is the shear volume of his output.

He put out 62 studio albums.

By comparison, the contemporary pop star is lucky to put out a handful of songs in a 5 year period.

Entire albums are uncommon and outliers.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (ycdBu)

396 getting the banned back together - do keep the ONT informed about any outbreaks of automatic weapons fire in your 'hood tonight. It's so, so quiet these days/nights, I would chortle, if not LOL, if I heard that happy sound around here.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (El6T/)

397 hey if my city's residents were bringing their infection all up and down the East Coast in defiance of White House guidance on how to contain a freaking pandemic - I think I'd have the presence of mind and objectivity to acknowledge why the rest of the world hates us. Ace isn't defensive about it. He's a realist.

Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (E6tRR)

398 One of my guys just texted me and asked if we were working next week. Missed him in the big group text. Sorry, man...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (QrImU)

399 I want to get out of here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (Lqy/e)


It's a different world you now face, but you sound like you are beginning to adapt.
Prayers up!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (BiNEL)

400 >>The one truly remarkable thing about Frank Zappa is the shear volume of his output.


And the Dedication to his craft. Motherfucker was ALWAYS working.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (b3UfL)

401 I am never going to make it as a comic, am I?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (r6GXX)

I laughed. I actually watched that movie this afternoon.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (6ofTb)

402 not so,

Gotcha.

No harm, no foul.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (RU4sa)

403 348 What is "positraction"?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)


One of the best terms ever invented by a marketing department.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (dOV9E)

404 Most cars were one wheel drive. Get a wheel stuck and the other wheel on that side doesn't do much. With Posi, the other wheel does turn. But it's not all wheel drive.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (Lqy/e)

405 I smell toast!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (b3UfL)

406 Even Harry does, unless he finds his testicles and hoists himself out of this.

I think we already have a winner for the title of the Most P***ywhipped Man Of The Twenty-First Century.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (I2/tG)

407 Tedious & boring

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (aA3+G)

408
353 Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (fWd7a)


YOU are the weakest link!

Posted by: Gorilla at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (pNxlR)

409 "is anyone else surreptitiously checking if they still have a sense of smell every few hours?"

Well, now that I just ate a Hot Pocket...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (6ljL8)

410 I am packing up my things and the things I want. The kids can deal with the rest of it plus the work that still needs to be done on the house. I'm going to focus on getting the river place cleaned iup and sold. I want to get out of here.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (Lqy/e)
* * * *

Sounds like a good plan! Prayers continue...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (WFcrO)

411 Evening Ladyl - what is your honest take on Dr. Amy? (OH Dept of Health head)

Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (Y4EXg)

412 >>Tedious & boring


Like Ace's Lasagna

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (b3UfL)

413 what??

nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?

standards are slipping

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (El6T/)

414 389 OK, wow. ONT seems tense tonight.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (s9Eo

not really, if you ignore the one trying to annoy others

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (G546f)

415 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/s33bmrw

https://tinyurl.com/wdakear

https://tinyurl.com/sqpw6gp

https://tinyurl.com/vkw5t45

https://tinyurl.com/rases5e

https://tinyurl.com/sonx9td

Posted by: kbdabear at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (qAR6u)

416 410 Tedious & boring
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 11:01 PM (aA3+G)

I didn't think the My Cousin Vinny jokes were THAT bad...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (QrImU)

417 348 What is "positraction"?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM

I know, I know!

Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (Do5/p)

418 What is "positraction"?

Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)

---
"limited slip differential": both wheels get the spin from the drive shaft, so better traction, as the force is, more or less, evenly divided.


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (vwf8z)

419 OK, wow. ONT seems tense tonight.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (s9Eo


Past, present, or future tense?

Somebody familiar with tensor math feel free to chime in.

Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (NiXyF)

420 What part of 'no titles of nobility' (even if they fake-dropped them) do they not understand?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (0ReGO)


Living document...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (BiNEL)

421 not really, if you ignore the one trying to annoy others
Posted by: vmom 2020

----

That's simply not so!!


I'm killing me here.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (Y4EXg)

422 Yeah, I just need to find someone to follow through on the cleanup. Still have to pay property taxes first, then I can hire if needed. I will feel more secure when I have that mini motor home.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (Lqy/e)

423 kbdabear is the great uniter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (QrImU)

424 414 Evening Ladyl - what is your honest take on Dr. Amy? (OH Dept of Health head)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (Y4EXg)


Good evening, TonyPete!

I don't have an opinion, because I know nothing about her.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (TdMsT)

425 What is "positraction"?

Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)

---
"limited slip differential": both wheels get the spin from the drive shaft, so better traction, as the force is, more or less, evenly divided.


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (vwf8z)


Think poor man's four wheel drive.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (BiNEL)

426 hey if my city's residents were bringing their infection all up and down the East Coast in defiance of White House guidance on how to contain a freaking pandemic - I think I'd have the presence of mind and objectivity to acknowledge why the rest of the world hates us. Ace isn't defensive about it. He's a realist.
Posted by: kallisto at March




In fairness, you lost your shit over criticism of Italy so

There is no evidence that it is being spread throughout the country in a meaningful way by nyers.

Nobody is complaining about everybody that transited back into the US from they euro vacations using the east coast airports.

hating ny because its politicians are politicians are nonsense.

it makes sense that ny is a hotspot because of its geography.

that deblasio made things worse is not much of a reflection the average nyer.

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (HALdu)

427 396 is anyone else surreptitiously checking if they still have a sense of smell every few hours?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (G546f)

No. I really haven't done anything that would be risky behavior. My contacts have been family and the grandsons have been out of school for 2 weeks already. I wear an n95 to the grocery store and only shop about 45min before close.

Ultimately, I'm hoping they can crank out enough plaquenil and azithromycin. Roualt's work has me thinking that this is the ticket. he meds are old enough to have a known side effect profile, and I'm hoping even donks see reason on this

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (ONvIw)

428 399 getting the banned back together - do keep the ONT informed about any outbreaks of automatic weapons fire in your 'hood tonight. It's so, so quiet these days/nights, I would chortle, if not LOL, if I heard that happy sound around here.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:00 PM (El6T/)

Never heard full auto around here even july 4th or new years. Quiet tnite but usually just single shots if ever, still wakes one up middle.of nite.

Posted by: getting the banned together for a class action at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (SybiH)

429 or maybe i was a bit off...

haven't read the link yet, since steak is on the fire for dinner here:

https://itstillruns.com/differences-between-
positraction-limited-slip-7669936.html

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (vwf8z)

430 So, I'm a tad confused. Kentucky just declared a disaster over this.



We have 394 cases. But we only have tested ~5000 people, and that number hasn't gone up in a couple of days.



I know this spreads like a wildfire, but if we aren't testing in
numbers, what is the indicator that we need to declare disaster?
*****

Because...Shut Up


-the people that brought you global warming hysteria

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (h1jJh)

431 Hooo boy. Things getting gritsy.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (TdMsT)

432 I note with some dismay that my glass has leaked wine out the top of it.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (NiXyF)

433 The Triumph is kinda cool. The rest of those cars...yeah pretty bad.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (Gl2vL)

It looked much better as a roadster, believe me. A mechanical and electrical nightmare, too. Friend of mine had one. The 5-speed transmission piled up, big time. Two thousand dollars for a new one. So we went and got a "low miles" Mazda RX7 engine and transmission for about $800, and I did the swap. We could not make the "Thermal Reactor" emission device fit, so we had a set of tube headers made up instead. The car sounded like a flock of chainsaws flying in formation, but it ran great.

The Mazda transmission failed right out of the box, but the engine dealer replaced on warranty, and the replacement lasted.

And remarkably, all the electrical gadgets on the mazda engine hooked up with and worked fine with their counterparts in the Triumph dash: oil pressure gauge, oil level lamp, temperature gauge, coolant level lamp, tachometer, and alternator telltale lamp. I almost believe that Triumph intended to offer that with a rotary engine, but got cold feet during the gas crisis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (miJU3)

434 not so,

Gotcha.

No harm, no foul.
Posted by: SMH at March



good

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (HALdu)

435

Oh, and this gem. Neil Ferguson is the lead guy in that Apocalyptic coronavirus report from the Imperial College. Some of his colleagues (and rivals) are pointing out he doesn't have such a hot record. He was responsible for the UK overreaction to hoof and mouth disease which cost them a bundle economically.

That hoof and mouth model was described as "unfit for purpose".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (rCwaK)

436 not really, if you ignore the one trying to annoy others

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM (G546f)


Which is getting easier and easier

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (BiNEL)

437 What is "positraction"?

Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)

---
"limited slip differential": both wheels get the spin from the drive shaft, so better traction, as the force is, more or less, evenly divided.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:03 PM


So something like
"It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing."?



Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 11:06 PM (r6GXX)

438 What are the advantages of a rotary engine versus a Knights of Columbus engine?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:06 PM (L2ZTs)

439 not really, if you ignore the one trying to annoy other
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March



kind of a horde thing that disagreement is not an issue.



Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (HALdu)

440 nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?



standards are slipping

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (El6T/)

---
another movie i've never seen.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (vwf8z)

441 What are the advantages of a rotary engine versus a Knights of Columbus engine?
Posted by: qdpsteve

---

None if you are an Optimist.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (Y4EXg)

442 440 What are the advantages of a rotary engine versus a Knights of Columbus engine?
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:06 PM (L2ZTs)

Higher revs vs better coffee and danish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (QrImU)

443 Tonypete, what if you're a Soroptimist?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (L2ZTs)

444 Tonypete, well played.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (El6T/)

445 I'm hoping even donks see reason on this

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (ONvIw)


It is good to have dreams!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (BiNEL)

446 Aetius, hmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:08 PM (L2ZTs)

447 another movie i've never seen.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (vwf8z)

It is a good one. At least to see once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:08 PM (QrImU)

448 >>I know this spreads like a wildfire, but if we aren't testing in
numbers, what is the indicator that we need to declare disaster?
*****


A guess?

They have to formally declare a disaster in order to get federal assistance.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 11:08 PM (bDqIh)

449 Seems like yesterday California banned "single use" shopping bags, encouraging shoppers to purchase reusable shopping bags. Today, Ralph's announced they are no longer touching the your filthy reusable bags, and unless you pay the 8 cents for their bags, you can go ahead and sack your own groceries...and suggesting they bring back the "single use" bags that no one had any problem with would be raycist, or something...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (5WpEK)

450 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.

Her last name is Raimondo. Mother of an HQ troll?

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (pPNCa)

451 That hoof and mouth model was described as "unfit for purpose".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (rCwaK)

They threw his ass under the double decker.

Posted by: LOL at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (fWd7a)

452 The Oktoberfest shot. The ladies are hoisting HB mugs. Hofbrau Munchen. That's the one I was at when I was at the Munich Oktoberfest. I vomited a lot on the bus ride back to Aschaffenburg. I am glad my wife was so non-judgey. Part of why we are still married 30 years later.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

453 My favorite aunt called me this evening. She's an old-school liberal, who lives in the DC area.

She told me that she is going on with life as though the Chinese flu stuff isn't happening. She spends her day walking and biking.

I found it interesting that she has no fear at all and that she thinks the restrictions are ridiculous.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (TdMsT)

454 @440
Well one major advantage of a rotary engine is it's incredible power to size ratio.

You can pull a rotary out of a car without a hoist and rebuild it on a 5 gallon bucket.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (ycdBu)

455 We're innocent!

Posted by: The Two Yoots at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (Do5/p)

456 Problem with the Triumph is it went from not flipping to flipping rather quickly.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (b3UfL)

457
It is good to have dreams!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (BiNEL)

If they could divorce Didier from Donald, Didier's pedigree would appeal to their Europhilic ways

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (ONvIw)

458 452 Cuomo threatens to sue RI governor.

Her last name is Raimondo. Mother of an HQ troll?
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (pPNCa)

She owns the basement he lives in.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (QrImU)

459 That hoof and mouth model was described as "unfit for purpose".

---
There's a reason "Good enough for government work" is a thing.

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (kOpft)

460 Her last name is Raimondo. Mother of an HQ troll?
Posted by: Basement Cat at March



I saw that, very funny

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (HALdu)

461 The Trabant is a triumph of making something from nothing. They didn't even have enough steel to build the bodies out of, so Trabant engineers developed what was the first large-scale application of recycling to solve this problem: they took cotton waste from the Soviet Union (think Breshnev's old underpants) and phenol resins from the dye industry and used that to make Duroplast, the fiberglass-like stuff Trabant bodies were made from.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 10:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

Heh. Corvette, and many other makes now have body parts made of "sheet-molded compound". Trabi's Duroplast was just an early iteration of that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (miJU3)

462 So, does anyone know how many Typhoid Mary's have escaped NYC?

Posted by: Case at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (U5lak)

463 -the people that brought you global warming hysteria
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (h1jJh)

So, lets take a moment and assume that my gov is being legit. That he is acting on info available to him.

I'm being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (s9Eo8)

464 Positraction is mentioned in that Beach Boys epic, 409.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (DMUuz)

465 >>> 429 396 is anyone else surreptitiously checking if they still have a sense of smell every few hours?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 10:59 PM (G546f)

No. I really haven't done anything that would be risky behavior. My contacts have been family and the grandsons have been out of school for 2 weeks already. I wear an n95 to the grocery store and only shop about 45min before close.

Ultimately, I'm hoping they can crank out enough plaquenil and azithromycin. Roualt's work has me thinking that this is the ticket. he meds are old enough to have a known side effect profile, and I'm hoping even donks see reason on this
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (ONvIw)

So, hopefully Governor Witless and the NV twit are the exceptions, not the rule.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (0ReGO)

466 I missed the movie thread because we were watching 1917.
What a very good movie.
streaming on Comcast for $5.99 several months earlier than they had planned to release it to streaming/DVD.
Others are probably streaming it as well.. probably for a lot more!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (CjFDo)

467 Problem with the Triumph is it went from not flipping to flipping rather quickly.

At least it tried to fight the good fight.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (SchxB)

468 465 I'm being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (s9Eo


I'm afraid it involves math.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (dOV9E)

469 >>I'm being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.


A Giant Pool of Federal Funds

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (b3UfL)

470 440 What are the advantages of a rotary engine versus a Knights of Columbus engine?

Burger King Mazda with stinger exhaust for the win!
Get close enough to pass and you go deaf! Circa 1974?

Posted by: getting the bannwd back together at riverside raceway at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (SybiH)

471 BUT SHE'S MY MOMMY!!!

Posted by: Prance Harry at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (CLteG)

472 I'm afraid it involves math.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (dOV9E)

Or their version of it, at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (QrImU)

473 Also if they don't Lockdown, and things get even a bit sketchy, they get caught with their pants down.

ALL of them have been spending MAD money on Nonsense and NO money on Preparedness.

Also, many of the Laws they championed have led to a lack of Emergency Services.

This is CYA time.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (b3UfL)

474 433 Hooo boy. Things getting gritsy.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (TdMsT)

Regular, creamy or al dente?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (NWiLs)

475 I'm afraid it involves math.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (dOV9E)

Hit me.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (s9Eo8)

476 Give me liberty or give me math!

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:13 PM (L2ZTs)

477 I did discover the other wine stash, mostly whites. I just packed it up. I know what furniture I want to move. I'll be limited by the size trailer I can get and tow. I'm just trying to keep an open mind on it all.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:13 PM (Lqy/e)

478 352 Harry and Meggie Sparkles are likely going to beg for US Secret Service or other taxpayer funded protection. When Megxit takes official force, they are no longer covered by the agreement between the UK and US to protect each other's official VIPs.

It will be DJT who will make the call.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (rCwaK)

The other Ace, at BlindGossip.com, had a blind that was solved by DJT. It's ironic because Meghan couldn't stand to be in the same room as The Donald when he showed up for a visit last year.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 28, 2020 11:13 PM (m2EfB)

479 nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?


*******


I'd do it, but I got mud in my tires.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 11:13 PM (m45I2)

480 Regular, creamy or al dente?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (NWiLs)

*golfclap*

Nice, I was trying to come up with a way to make a play on 'grist-y'. I milled it over too long.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:14 PM (QrImU)

481 477 I'm afraid it involves math.
Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (dOV9E)

Hit me.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (s9Eo

---

Two trillion dollars would be my guess.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:14 PM (RU4sa)

482 Live free or shelter in place!

Posted by: New HAMPSHIRE at March 28, 2020 11:14 PM (fWd7a)

483 475 Also if they don't Lockdown, and things get even a bit sketchy, they get caught with their pants down.

ALL of them have been spending MAD money on Nonsense and NO money on Preparedness.

Also, many of the Laws they championed have led to a lack of Emergency Services.

This is CYA time.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (b3UfL)

Whether the horse has left or not, they have to be seen closing as many barn doors as possible.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:14 PM (NWiLs)

484 I'm being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (s9Eo

They're scared they'll be blamed if cases in their state start to ramp up, which all of their advisers who watch CNN 24 hours a day tell them will happen. They see no personal downside from being too cautious, especially when others are doing it, and a huge personal downside from the risk of not doing it.

So for them, it's an easy call. It's all about their personal political aspirations for the future. They couldn't care less about esoteric questions like "right" and "wrong".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (V2Yro)

485 >>Whether the horse has left or not, they have to be seen closing as many barn doors as possible.


Yep. Crisis Mitigation has replace Crisis Management.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (b3UfL)

486 'Positraction' is the GM trademarked name for their limited slip differential.

Each of the manufacturers had their own name for similar devices.

I reiterate, 'Powertrax' was the AMC version.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (xSo9G)

487 being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.

THE MINE SHAFT GAP!
WHERE LIVESTOCK CAN BE SLAUGHTERED!

Posted by: medvednic lieber banned playing omm pa pa at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (SybiH)

488 A Giant Pool of Federal Funds

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:11 PM (b3UfL)


I doubt anyone will come up with a better answer.

Lock down those federal funds as soon as possible, get the easy graft (which is always up front), create a (paid) study commission or two (preferably populated with friends and relatives), then eventually tell your subjects I did it "out of an abundance of caution"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (BiNEL)

489 Project the U.S. line forward just 7 days, and we'll be at 10,000 deaths in total. Project it forward a week after that, and we'll be at 10,000 per day
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at March 28, 2020 10:40 PM (ykYG2)

How does a smart guy like you get sucked in by all the bullshit statistics? The very last mathematical model for something like this is a linear trend line.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (miJU3)

490 insomniac, I think we basically said the same thing in slightly different ways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (V2Yro)

491 Got the call to go back to work Monday. Feel alot better about it if I wasn't worried about being permanently unemployed in six months when the full impact of all these junior Hitler's dryfucking the economy to death really hits.

Posted by: old5.0 at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (kwOrK)

492 Mike, what were GM's trademarked names for their limited bra and panty differentials?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (L2ZTs)

493 Managing downloads

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (l9m7l)

494
Nagin was a rocket scientist compared to this bint.


I like him on Walking Dead

Posted by: Norman Spiny at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (NSEzS)

495 Notsothoreau, you're in my prayers. I hope the year gets better.

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (G546f)

496 *wanders off*

Endeavour to persevere y'all!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (m45I2)

497 There have to be triggers for qualifying for a portion of those Sweet Federal Dollars.

Lockingdown and suspending economic activity gets you past a Velvet Rope.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (b3UfL)

498 482 Regular, creamy or al dente?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:12 PM (NWiLs)

*golfclap*

Nice, I was trying to come up with a way to make a play on 'grist-y'. I milled it over too long.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:14 PM (QrImU)


Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (TdMsT)

499 So, lets take a moment and assume that my gov is being legit. That he is acting on info available to him.

I'm being serious here, I'm looking for anyone in the this crew that can provide a sober (which excludes me) assessment as to what is causing these governors to lock down.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:10 PM (s9Eo

China didn't shutdown for no reason. Europe's numbers aren't good. They all are looking at worse case, which isn't happening here, in most places.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (Rz2Nc)

500 Limited slip differentials reduce 'carbon footprint'.

...or double it, depending on power available.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (xSo9G)

501 Problem with the Triumph is it went from not flipping to flipping rather quickly.

Had a friend who drove a Triumph back in the day and traded it in for something sturdier when there was an accident on I-91-- a Triumph slid under the back end of a semi, which acted like a guillotine.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (pPNCa)

502 So for them, it's an easy call. It's all about their personal political aspirations for the future. They couldn't care less about esoteric questions like "right" and "wrong".
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:15 PM (V2Yro)

This. They are mostly concerned for their own careers and whether they can bring home the 'stimulus' bacon (and line their pockets at the same time.) I think this has very little to do with determining threat and risk, and everything in determining advantage.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:17 PM (QrImU)

503 492 insomniac, I think we basically said the same thing in slightly different ways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (V2Yro)

Pretty much, though I get folksy idiom points.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

504 Thank you, vmom. It's hard. I just pray a lot. Of course, churches are shut down too so I can't even go there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (Lqy/e)

505 Hooo boy. Things getting gritsy.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (TdMsT)


Hope you have some shrimp to go with the grits!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (BiNEL)

506 Managing downloads
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2020 11:16 PM (l9m7l)


** pushes bag of popcorn thru USB **

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (LPnfS)

507 "The Barrel is the only place on the planet coronavirus is afraid to go."

This is good, thanks. Was worried about carrying it to my (at-elevated-risk) hubby.

And, Thank You, MisHum for issuing the dispensation, but I won't assume it necessarily applies to me as I'm not a "regular" anyway...

Thanks for the FZ also! I turned on (late!) in the late 70s with the Joe's Garage album, lol!

I'll pay my penance while cooking supper-- in the interest of Fair Play-- and will leave that can of Lysol in the Barrel for the next, er, .... occupant.

Love this place!

Posted by: JQ at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (whOIk)

508 I got your slip differential for ya...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

509 Sigh.
This is mean but I'll share it anyway.

https://tinyurl.com/vfqu8jt

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (L2ZTs)

510
380 I am so tired of trying to explain Modeling and Statistics to people.

They just see a scary number and go with it. You just can't talk sense to them.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 10:57 PM (b3UfL)


When you put up a paper heavy on tables of numbers and graphs showing waves of cases getting higher and higher over time (the 19(?) Mar 2020 Imperial College paper) ... and you include next to nothing regarding the specifics of your models, two things
immediately come to mind --

(1) Who peer reviewed this POS and passed it?
and
(2) Why should I believe one damn thing you say when you refuse to show all your cards?

Fookin' credentialism is gonna be the death of us all.

Posted by: Gorilla at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (pNxlR)

511 How does a smart guy like you get sucked in by all the bullshit statistics? The very last mathematical model for something like this is a linear trend line.

He believes that it will happen because he wants it to happen.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (I2/tG)

512 507 Hooo boy. Things getting gritsy.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (TdMsT)

Hope you have some shrimp to go with the grits!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (BiNEL)


I did actually have shrimp tonight!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (TdMsT)

513 Of course, churches are shut down too so I can't even go there.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (Lqy/e)


Where ever two or more are gathered in my name ...

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (LPnfS)

514 I thought the Barrel invented Coronavirus?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (L2ZTs)

515 I do think a ton of this is panic on their part as they know they dropped a big ball here. Very few State and Local Governments were prepared for this type of (potential) event.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (b3UfL)

516
511 Sigh.
This is mean but I'll share it anyway.

https://tinyurl.com/vfqu8jt
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (L2ZTs)


Sadist.

Posted by: Gorilla at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (pNxlR)

517 And, Thank You, MisHum for issuing the dispensation, but I won't assume it necessarily applies to me as I'm not a "regular" anyway...

Remember JQ, nothing's free. There's a reason you don't take that candy bar that shows up on your prison bunk.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (NWiLs)

518 (1) Who peer reviewed this POS and passed it?
and
(2) Why should I believe one damn thing you say when you refuse to show all your cards?

Fookin' credentialism is gonna be the death of us all.
Posted by: Gorilla at March




was it reviewed?

Posted by: not so at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (HALdu)

519 I guess, even in my 50s, that I'm hopelessly naive and hope for pols to put aside their normal behavior.

Story about the frog and scorpion comes to mind.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (s9Eo8)

520 This is CYA time.
---
This, pretty much. One advisory to avoid gatherings over 500 became somone else's ban on groups over 250, became a ban on groups over 100, became an advisory (because the 'experts' at the CDC can't give up the limelight) for no groups of 10 or more, became a ban on groups of 10 or more, became the cascading orders to close restaurants and bars to everything.

That process all because if you don't ban more than the last guy, you're just playing copycat.

At this point, the issue is inertia, and the fact that as soon as you admit the lockdown isn't necessary, you get to start answering questions over whether it was ever necessary. Note that Cuomo was already doing that Thursday despite the current situation in NYC.

Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (kOpft)

521 >>Lock down those federal funds as soon as possible, get the easy graft (which is always up front), create a (paid) study commission or two (preferably populated with friends and relatives), then eventually tell your subjects I did it "out of an abundance of caution"!


Yup. Think it was the governor of Michigan who had been b#tching about Trump not sending assistance, supplies and then it turned out she hadn't filled out the paperwork to officially declare Michigan a disaster area. Womp womp. Do your job, lady.

I would also imagine with Cuomo out there every day demanding all the ventilators and whatnot that other governors are concerned about federal supplies being available if they wait too long.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (bDqIh)

522 Posted by: JQ at March 28, 2020 11:18 PM (whOIk)

We enjoy having you here

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (aA3+G)

523 442 nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?
standards are slipping

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (El6T/)
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another movie i've never seen.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (vwf8z)

"One was the corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel-base, and wheel-track as the 64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest."

If you haven't ever seen Vinnie, you've missed one of the best! Besides being hilarious, and one of Joe Pesci's best, most any lawyer will tell you it's one of the most *accurate* courtroom dramas ever made.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:20 PM (V2Yro)

524 Mike, what were GM's trademarked names for their limited bra and panty differentials?
Posted by: qdpsteve
---------

Well, 2+1 = 3, so I'm going with 'Tri-Power'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (CDGwz)

525 516 I thought the Barrel invented Coronavirus?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (L2ZTs)

the Barrel is so deep it's actually located in China

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (G546f)

526 Where ever two or more are gathered in my name ...
Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (LPnfS)

Jesus? You transitioned?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (NWiLs)

527 Adds My Cousin Vinney to list of movies watched whenever they are on.......

Posted by: Anonymous Guy In Ca at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (RcMUX)

528 Gorilla, nice photos :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (L2ZTs)

529
Jesus? You transitioned?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (NWiLs


Insom.

You are SO BAD.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (TdMsT)

530 >> The very last mathematical model for something like this is a linear trend line.

That's logarithmic graph, which is very useful for. An exponential reduces to a nice linear straight line. That allows you to see the doubling rate.

You'll note that it starts to turn down on all the curves indicating it is slowing from the initial exponential.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 11:22 PM (rCwaK)

531 "One was the corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel-base, and wheel-track as the 64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest."

Mint green!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:22 PM (NWiLs)

532 Very few State and Local Governments were prepared for this type of (potential) event.

It turns out that after the H1N1 pandemic, Governor Schwarzenegger built up a considerable reserve stockpile of ventilators and emergency hospital equipment for California.

His successor, Governor Brown, then sold off the stockpile.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 11:22 PM (I2/tG)

533 517 I do think a ton of this is panic on their part as they know they dropped a big ball here. Very few State and Local Governments were prepared for this type of (potential) event.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (b3UfL)

I found it interesting that Arnold set up an emergency plan for Ca including vents, and that Moonbeam failed to maintain it.

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (ONvIw)

534 343 Many of those 1958 tips for finding a husband would expose you to serial killers.

"If a stranger has a cast on his arm and needs help getting a small sailboat onto a trailer, by all means go with him."
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 28, 2020 10:51 PM (COzlW)
-----------------------------------------

Actually, the vast majority of those tips were pretty good with only a few being barftastic.

And there was the occasional wise snippet, e.g.:
"If your mother is fat, claim that you take after your father's side of the family. If your father is also fat, claim that you were adopted."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (M/9m0)

535 In other news, the movie 'The Guard' is quite good.

.. and its almost over.

I'm outsourcing my movie watching decisions to the ONT. What should I watch next?

.... also, wtf do movie cops always have to load their fucking pistols before a shootout?

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (s9Eo8)

536 531
Jesus? You transitioned?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (NWiLs


Insom.

You are SO BAD.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:21 PM (TdMsT)

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (NWiLs)

537 Gotta love that ad promoting relief from sciatica.

"Got horrible back pain? Just tie yourself into this knot..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (L2ZTs)

538 *Finding and getting a husband in 1958 was certainly different than today. My how times have changed.*

Tip #79: "Double date with a gay happily married couple."


Very progressive for 1959.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (N30JC)

539 Had a friend who drove a Triumph back in the day and traded it in for something sturdier when there was an accident on I-91-- a Triumph slid under the back end of a semi, which acted like a guillotine.

TR-7, 7 teenagers, small hill known for "catching air".

Too bad about the garbage truck that pulled onto the street in front of them, out of view behind the small hill. From descriptions, it sounded like the TR-7 went under the truck at about the lowest point in it's landing, ensuring maximum carnage.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (SchxB)

540 I do think a ton of this is panic on their part as they know they dropped a big ball here. Very few State and Local Governments were prepared for this type of (potential) event.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (b3UfL)


Again, I think this is a key point. Some of the coastal states have some minimal planning for hurricanes, nonetheless it always winds up assholes and elbows for a bit, even for these regionally constrained events.
The Chinken Plague is an invisible force with no immediate effects, but potential (and unquantifiable) disaster looming ahead, is exactly the kind of thing no political official ever even dreams about!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (BiNEL)

541 >>Whether the horse has left or not, they have to be seen closing as many barn doors as possible.

==

it's a great way for them to trot out the ole "This is no time to be pointing fingers at who dropped the ball!"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (G546f)

542 .... also, wtf do movie cops always have to load their fucking pistols before a shootout?
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (s9Eo

And why is there a hammer-cocking sound effect when they have striker-fired pistols?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (NWiLs)

543 What is "positraction"?
Posted by: Vinny (my cousin) at March 28, 2020 10:52 PM (r6GXX)

The differential contains clutches that lock the two rear wheels together in the event one begins to spin. In normal driving, the clutches run free, and the drive wheels are free to turn at slightly different rates to aid in rounding a curve.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (miJU3)

544
Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer

YOU are the weakest link!
Posted by: Gorilla


You guys are nuts!

Posted by: Krazy at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (aKsyK)

545 {{{{{Horde}}}}

We have been watching Back to School tonight. Omg so fricking hilarious! Forgot how much I liked Oingo Boingo back in the day.

So here in Colorado we have 2061 confirmed cases of 5.74 million people. Makes fucking total sense to shut down the whole fucking state!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 28, 2020 11:26 PM (/UQ/R)

546 it's a great way for them to trot out the ole "This is no time to be pointing fingers at who dropped the ball!"
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (G546f)

Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo infected 'oo!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 11:26 PM (NWiLs)

547 The Chinken Plague is an invisible force with no immediate effects, but potential (and unquantifiable) disaster looming ahead, is exactly the kind of thing no political official ever even dreams about!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (BiNEL)

Cuomo did, and went with a triage system to save money. The old ladies were quite expendable to him in 2015

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:26 PM (ONvIw)

548 >>When you put up a paper heavy on tables of numbers and graphs showing waves of cases getting higher and higher over time (the 19(?) Mar 2020 Imperial College paper) ... and you include next to nothing regarding the specifics of your models, two things
immediately come to mind --


On top of that, even accepting this model, the KNOWN UNKNOWN Metric is the Population of Positive Cases with No Symptoms / Positive Cases Revcovered.

So at a (doomish) 5% Mortality rate, that leaves 95% of the tested population recovered.

And, the tested population is TINY in comparison to the total population.

So, the numner would necessarily have to fall precipitously from (the over-estimate) of 5% over time.






Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:26 PM (b3UfL)

549 356 Like big tits? Get 2 potato sacks. Fill with potatoes. Go to town in your Eldorado.

Zappa said ( before he died) more than a mouthful is wasted. Also a rock opera Tities and Beer. So he knows.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 10:53 PM (rF8nX

ILBT !

Posted by: Joe Walsh (not the congressman), well, maybe at March 28, 2020 11:26 PM (Vy7tf)

550 >>> 517 I do think a ton of this is panic on their part as they know they dropped a big ball here. Very few State and Local Governments were prepared for this type of (potential) event.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (b3UfL)

Many of them willfully encouraged behavior that compounds problems like this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 11:27 PM (0ReGO)

551 32; My experience; one American thrown out of the HB for behaving badly to an audience; one local complete with a green loden (boiled wool) jacket and a cheroot violently ejected after a dispute I caused by bringing two American Doctors to the sammish table. Been there and it wasn't like the picture.

Posted by: SF jeff at March 28, 2020 11:27 PM (kJqpv)

552 Think poor man's four wheel drive.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (BiNEL)

Think, 'two lines of smoking rubber'.

Posted by: Teenager in the 70's at March 28, 2020 11:28 PM (Vy7tf)

553 ..I did discover the other wine stash, mostly whites. I just packed it up. I know what furniture I want to move. I'll be limited by the size trailer I can get and tow. I'm just trying to keep an open mind on it all.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:13 PM (Lqy/e)



Are you committed to the pull-behind Trailer RV platform, or are you also considering various Class A or Class B motorhome options.

Frequently, those will pull smaller, light "TOAD" (towed) cars behind. Some of those can be towed with all four wheels on the ground, others need "tow-cradles" to lift the front drive wheels off of the road.

But that smaller TOAD car makes scooting around town while your big RV is in the campground, quite easy.

Conversely, parking the 36 ft. fifth-wheel and driving around town in your 1 ton diesel truck, well.. it's not hard to drive. But it can be kinda sporty when you're trying to find a place to park.

There is no universally RIGHT answer, only whatever is right for YOU.

But there are a few Morons & 'Ettes around here who've done a bunch of RVing. Ask around!

And you already know how reticent folks are to give advice here. LOL


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 11:28 PM (QzJWU)

554 Actually the full quote is even better.

"Double date with a gay happily married couple... let him see what it's like! "

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 28, 2020 11:28 PM (N30JC)

555 The Chinken Plague is an invisible force with no immediate effects, but potential (and unquantifiable) disaster looming ahead, is exactly the kind of thing no political official ever even dreams about!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:24 PM (BiNEL)

And Bill Gates sponsored a group to plan for a runaway coronavirus in October of 2019. The group included the head of the Chinese CDC

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:29 PM (ONvIw)

556 My Cousin Vinney is in my top five comedy movies.
That's where the word Alafukinbama came from.

Posted by: Case at March 28, 2020 11:29 PM (U5lak)

557 476 433 Hooo boy. Things getting gritsy.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:05 PM (TdMsT)

Kiss 'em!

Posted by: Flo at March 28, 2020 11:29 PM (Vy7tf)

558 >And why is there a hammer-cocking sound effect when they have striker-fired pistols?
Posted by: Insomniac


and nobody ever suffers hearing loss from all the gunplay

Posted by: DB- just DB. Live from Pelican Bay! at March 28, 2020 11:29 PM (iTXRQ)

559 {{{WDS}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:30 PM (TdMsT)

560 Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo infected 'oo!

Yeah, Hot Gas, in writing about the incompetence of New Orleans' mayor, had this hilarious bit:

Right now is the time for everyone to pull together, stop trying to make political points, and let's just get through it.

Uh huh. Stop trying to make political points - but only if the person being criticized is a Democrat, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 11:30 PM (I2/tG)

561 I have to hand it to "Automobile." They managed to pick up some of my favorite modern cars in their worst-ever list, including the car that I currently drive as my "town car." I wonder what their future as a subscription-based print magazine looks like . OOPS! Ha ha ha! Well okay then.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 28, 2020 11:30 PM (8IOEj)

562 Positraction distributes the drive to the other wheel in the event of traction lost on one side. iirc.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 10:58 PM (b3UfL)

I think Packard may have been the first to offer it in a passenger car. Studebaker picked it up in 1956, IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:30 PM (miJU3)

563 And Bill Gates sponsored a group to plan for a runaway coronavirus in October of 2019. The group included the head of the Chinese CDC

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:29 PM (ONvIw)


NOTHING to see here comrade,da?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (BiNEL)

564 >>>And why is there a hammer-cocking sound effect when they have striker-fired pistols?


Why does everyone carrying a shotgun approach a gunfight without a shell already in the chamber?

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (b3UfL)

565 546
Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer

YOU are the weakest link!
Posted by: Gorilla

You guys are nuts!
Posted by: Krazy at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (aKsyK)


Let me bring all of you together. Irrevocably.

Posted by: JB Weld at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (dOV9E)

566
With Chubble having made an appearance, it is time to leave before the Four Horsemen ransack this place.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (pNxlR)

567 And Bill Gates sponsored a group to plan for a runaway coronavirus in October of 2019. The group included the head of the Chinese CDC

That chink did buttstuff with gate's wife, said harry reid.

Posted by: slippery slope at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (KeQy3)

568 NOTHING to see here comrade,da?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (BiNEL)

The media is seeing nothing, when normally they'd trumpet about Gate's intellect over something like this.

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:32 PM (ONvIw)

569 568
With Chubble having made an appearance, it is time to leave before the Four Horsemen ransack this place.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (pNxlR)

WOOOOOO!!!

Posted by: Ric Flair at March 28, 2020 11:32 PM (NWiLs)

570 Why does everyone carrying a shotgun approach a gunfight without a shell already in the chamber?
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (b3UfL)


So it won't go off accidentally when they drop it and give away their location ...

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:32 PM (LPnfS)

571 nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?

standards are slipping
Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (El6T/)

One of a brazillion movies I have never seen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:32 PM (miJU3)

572 Why does everyone carrying a shotgun approach a gunfight without a shell already in the chamber?
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (b3UfL)

Hell, in most movies they load the gun in every scene before they shoot.

In the 3:10 to Yuma dude levered his rifle 2x before he shot.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (s9Eo8)

573 The thing to do was shut down domestic air travel, and the time to do it was before Mardi Gras and Spring Break.

It's kinda too late now.

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (RU4sa)

574 22 That Zappa on Mike Douglas clip is the most 70's thing ever.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 28, 2020 09:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

According to the air date of that clip, Zappa was tapping 2 years before Van Halen's Eruption ever hit the scene.

Posted by: jsg at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (B95HO)

575 >>So it won't go off accidentally when they drop it and give away their location ...


But then they always make a point of racking the action. Just telling the other guy that you have one less shell in there than you should, if you ask me.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (b3UfL)

576 It turns out, essential services are still available in Italy:

https://tinyurl.com/wwrfk9n

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (L2ZTs)

577 Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer

YOU are the weakest link!
Posted by: Gorilla

You guys are nuts!
Posted by: Krazy at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (aKsyK)

Let me bring all of you together. Irrevocably.
Posted by: JB Weld at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (dOV9E)


Y'all make me feel so, well, out of date...

Posted by: Mucilage at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (TdMsT)

578 At this point, I don't think I'm taking the truck. I am figuring I may have to live in this a month and I'd like something l could take for day trips. I've lived several years in 22' travel trailers. I've kicked around the idea of a big motorhome, with enough space cleared to move my stuff. But I like the idea of my stuff in a covered trailer.

There's a place in Johnson City I would buy sight unseen, if the other place was sold.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (Lqy/e)

579 >>In the 3:10 to Yuma dude levered his rifle 2x before he shot.


And he didn't eject an unspent cartridge!

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (b3UfL)

580 Uh huh. Stop trying to make political points - but only if the person being criticized is a Democrat, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2020 11:30 PM (I2/tG)


They will be blaming President Trump for every governmental screw-up until 2124!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (BiNEL)

581 Why does everyone carrying a shotgun approach a gunfight without a shell already in the chamber?
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (b3UfL)

And what are sword sheaths made out of to get the sound of metal grinding on metal?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (QrImU)

582 "Don't marry him if he has too many loose buttons."

I really don't know what to make of that.

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (ZCiJZ)

583 Think poor man's four wheel drive.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:04 PM (BiNEL)

Very, very useful on 4X4's, too. Pretty much a must for serious off-roaders.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (miJU3)

584
Speaking of who infected who, the Brit govt is trying to figure out who infected BoJo and other cabinet members.

A likely suspect is some EU Brexit negotiator. So blame it on the EU.

And more seriously, there were some Austrian ski resort that caters to the jet set. They had apparently had a bunch of coronavirus cases early and sent them back all over the world. They're investigating them for a possible cover up, bad for business attitude.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (rCwaK)

585 >>And what are sword sheaths made out of to get the sound of metal grinding on metal?


I just assumed that was an integral blade sharpener. Like a RonCo product. But from the middle ages.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (b3UfL)

586 I'll say again, Vinny is one of those rare MUST SEE!!! movies for anyone who's never seen it. I guarantee you that it is better than ANYTHING that has been made in the last 10 years, maybe 15.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (V2Yro)

587 An "open differential" is the type most rear wheel drive 2 wheel drive cars were.

The reason is an old one. A solid axle connecting 2 wheels works fine on straightaways, but something interesting happens when rounding turns. The inside wheel turns quite a bit slower than the outside wheel. Chattering and other oddities make it very unpleasant.

SO, some method was devised to decouple the wheels from each other when rounding turns and such.

The downside is obvious to anyone who has had one wheel stuck in snow or ice or mud. One wheel sitting on solid pavement sits there ... and doesn't do anything ... while the wheel in the snow just spins. So you could say, a 2 wheel drive vehicle is sometimes a 1 wheel drive vehicle.

Incidentally a similar effect can be observed in a 4 wheel drive vehicle.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (RtI0W)

588 Good evening.

I think I go through *way more* than thirty rolls of toilet paper a year.

Angel Soft needs to put me on the list of people they send Christmas cards to.

Shit, what time is it?!?

Good night!

Posted by: Robert at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (AhPpx)

589 Hey all.
I'm not only were we going to get killed by Chinese Wuhan flu but we had a tornado watch tonight. We've managed to survive. But we've had a shitload of rain in North Western Illinois. Anyone around here had the same?

Posted by: Farmer at March 28, 2020 11:36 PM (YBMj0)

590 *Can't believe this is from Bloomberg*

This was an episode of Family Guy.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 28, 2020 11:36 PM (N30JC)

591 Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer

YOU are the weakest link!
Posted by: Gorilla

You guys are nuts!
Posted by: Krazy at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (aKsyK)

Let me bring all of you together. Irrevocably.
Posted by: JB Weld at March 28, 2020 11:31 PM (dOV9E)


Y'all make me feel so, well, out of date...
Posted by: Mucilage at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (TdMsT)


I got plenty of paste, you lying dog-faced pony soldiers!

Posted by: Joe "Paste Eater" Biden at March 28, 2020 11:36 PM (pPNCa)

592 It is interesting that the virus started in China and spread throughout the world through Chinese immigrants and travelers and is disproportionately killing them and yet you never see those faces on television, it's always either a 25 - 35 year old white guy or gal.

Hmm, I think we may being spun a yarn.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 11:36 PM (ycdBu)

593
In other news, the movie 'The Guard' is quite good.

.. and its almost over.

I'm outsourcing my movie watching decisions to the ONT. What should I watch next?

.... also, wtf do movie cops always have to load their fucking pistols before a shootout?
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (s9Eo


Is that the one with the local Irish cop working with an FBI agent and dishing loads of shit on his head at every opportunity? Great movie, funny movie.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (pNxlR)

594 I have always loved the movie "The Freshman".

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (OuZMr)

595 32; My Octoberfest experience; one American thrown out of the HB for behaving badly to an audience; one local complete with a green loden (boiled wool) jacket and a cheroot violently ejected after a dispute I caused by bringing two American Doctors to the sammish table. Been there and it wasn't like the picture.

Posted by: SF jeff at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (kJqpv)

596 And Jim, I need cheap. I want to buy a house outright, which I can afford in TN. If the P-30 was running, I might still go that route. But it isn't and I don't think I want to wait to get it on the road.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (Lqy/e)

597 >>> 585 "Don't marry him if he has too many loose buttons."

I really don't know what to make of that.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (ZCiJZ)

Well, that means... uhhmmm... I got nothing.

I'm not looking it up, either.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (0ReGO)

598 Good night good people

unless I cannot sleep which is usual

in which case I may return

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (BiNEL)

599 Actually, AMC's limited slip was called Twin Grip. Positraction was Chevy/GMC, Pontiac was Saf-T-Trac, Olds was Anti-Spin.

Ford was Equa-lok until about 68 IIRC, and then went to a new design called Traction Lok. They also offered a Detroit Locker on certain 70 Torinos and 71 Mustangs ordered with the Super Drag Pack.

Posted by: old5.0 at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (kwOrK)

600 Good night, Hrothgar.

Posted by: Mucilage at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

601 And he didn't eject an unspent cartridge!
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (b3UfL)

I can't remember the movie, but there was one where a guy worked his action before a shootout started and actually did eject a round.

Seriously? You don't know you weapon was loaded?

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (s9Eo8)

602 >>"Don't marry him if he has too many loose buttons."


Like, in a jar?

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (b3UfL)

603 Off, sticky sock.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

604 in which case I may return
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (BiNEL)

Night, go read something boring

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (ONvIw)

605 What are the advantages of a rotary engine versus a Knights of Columbus engine?
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:06 PM (L2ZTs)

A rotary engine can eat steak on Friday.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (miJU3)

606 And Chrysler was Sure-grip

Posted by: old5.0 at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (kwOrK)

607 "Don't marry him if he has too many loose buttons."

I really don't know what to make of that.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (ZCiJZ)


He doesn't pay attention to detail. He is careless.

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (LPnfS)

608
588 >>And what are sword sheaths made out of to get the sound of metal grinding on metal?


I just assumed that was an integral blade sharpener. Like a RonCo product. But from the middle ages.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:35 PM (b3UfL)


Is there any part of the world where the screech of a Red-Tailed Hawk isn't heard?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:39 PM (pNxlR)

609 My 68 GT had a Traction Loc Rear in it.

Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2020 11:39 PM (b3UfL)

610 Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:23 PM (s9Eo

Is that the one with the local Irish cop working with an FBI agent and dishing loads of shit on his head at every opportunity? Great movie, funny movie.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (pNxlR)

Yes! Fun flick! I love the Irish actor. I'm pretty sure the horde put me onto the move.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:39 PM (s9Eo8)

611 596 32; My Octoberfest experience; one American thrown out of the HB for behaving badly to an audience; one local complete with a green loden (boiled wool) jacket and a cheroot violently ejected after a dispute I caused by bringing two American Doctors to the sammish table. Been there and it wasn't like the picture.
Posted by: SF jeff at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (kJqpv)


Potentially great story, compressed into far too few words. Would love a more extended version.

Posted by: Splunge at March 28, 2020 11:39 PM (dOV9E)

612 See ya in 45, Hrothgar.

Posted by: LOL at March 28, 2020 11:39 PM (fWd7a)

613 546
Is the country coming unglued?
Posted by: Elmer

Whmphhhmph (translation 'you gonna eat that?')

Posted by: Paste-eatin' joe at March 28, 2020 11:40 PM (Vy7tf)

614 I have always loved the movie "The Freshman".
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (OuZMr)


Scam ... is such an ugly word ...

Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:40 PM (LPnfS)

615
Posted by: JB Weld

Witchdance

https://youtu.be/mKhGSCDR-F0

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 11:41 PM (aKsyK)

616 You can pull a rotary out of a car without a hoist and rebuild it on a 5 gallon bucket.
Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 11:09 PM (ycdBu)

They are not light weight, though. A piston engine has a lot of open space inside it. Rotaries are pretty dense with parts inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:41 PM (miJU3)

617 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 28, 2020 11:41 PM (ABuva)

618 Movie? "Reuben, Reuben". Kind of an Epstein pic. Reuben didnt commit suicide either, the dog did it. Features a young Kelly McGillis.

Posted by: gettingvthe sock off the banned back together at March 28, 2020 11:42 PM (KeQy3)

619 So that was 3 weeks ago. I have no symptoms.
Posted by: DB- just DB. Live from Pelican Bay! at March 28, 2020 10:47 PM (iTXRQ)

Yep, you've got it. You can always go to NY, I hear they are cool with it.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 28, 2020 11:43 PM (Bwqq4)

620 ..At this point, I don't think I'm taking the truck. I am figuring I may have to live in this a month and I'd like something l could take for day trips. I've lived several years in 22' travel trailers. I've kicked around the idea of a big motorhome, with enough space cleared to move my stuff. But I like the idea of my stuff in a covered trailer.

There's a place in Johnson City I would buy sight unseen, if the other place was sold.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:33 PM (Lqy/e)



If you like Johnson City, then also check out Fredricksburg, Burnet, Marble Falls & Copperas Cove.

More good choices than most folks would dare think ever existed.

When do you think you'll start turning tires on your trip?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 11:44 PM (QzJWU)

621 I wonder what you'd have to have wrong with you to make fun of a Pontiac Tempest from the early 60's. They had everything that made sports car guys criticize the US companies for not having.

Innovative overhead cam engine. Transaxle, with 50/50 weight balance. Aerodynamic "racing" side mirrors, and a wraparound low-cut windshield from a Sebring special. Hell, they even used oil.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 28, 2020 11:44 PM (8IOEj)

622 Just popping back in to say I'm not here. Well, I'm bacu upthread, but I'm... oh, never mind.

Everybody have sweet but slightly savory dreams.

zzz

Posted by: mindful webworker
Congregation and Contagion
at March 28, 2020 11:45 PM (Sr48m)

623
He doesn't pay attention to detail. He is careless.

Ok. I'll buy that.

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2020 11:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

624 618 Movie? "Reuben, Reuben". Kind of an Epstein pic. Reuben didnt commit suicide either, the dog did it. Features a young Kelly McGillis.
Posted by: gettingvthe sock off the banned back together at March 28, 2020 11:42 PM (KeQy3)

I guess no joy on amazon prime. I
should have specified that.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:47 PM (s9Eo8)

625 Depends on selling the river place. I'd like to be gone in May. I have three dogs so I really need something I can sleep in. I don't know if I'll have help driving.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:48 PM (Lqy/e)

626 @616
True enough but a rotary out of an R100 is under 200lbs and one out of an early RX7 is under 300lbs.

Two non-soy men can easily pull those engines.
The biggest pain about the motor is not losing all of the seals and other fiddly bits when you are rebuilding it.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 11:49 PM (ycdBu)

627 Here's an article from the Texas Monthly about preparing for a pandemic. This shows that someone took steps after SARS (2005) in case something came their way again. Not doom and gloom.

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:49 PM (ONvIw)

628 I've been focusing on Sneedville/Tazewell. I definitely want East TN, preferably hilly country. I'm looking for community.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:50 PM (Lqy/e)

629 here's the link : https://tinyurl.com/wr93q3q

Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:50 PM (ONvIw)

630 I really don't know what to make of that.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2020 11:34 PM (ZCiJZ)

He doesn't pay attention to detail. He is careless.
Posted by: Adriane the Red Hat Critic ... at March 28, 2020 11:38 PM (LPnfS)

Girl gonna be doin' a lot of sewing if she marries this sloppy ass man who doesn't have enough money to take things to the cleaner to be repaired.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 28, 2020 11:50 PM (g3QEQ)

631 ..And Jim, I need cheap. I want to buy a house outright, which I can afford in TN. If the P-30 was running, I might still go that route. But it isn't and I don't think I want to wait to get it on the road.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (Lqy/e)



You have near-perfect timing, then.

Prices on properties have been falling like Wylie E. Coyote with an ACME umbrella and anvil, since the market crash(es).

I've been doing a lot of "shopping", looking at various rural real estate resources.

Some very intriguing and interesting options are out there, and more will soon be on the market.

Much of what's been on the market, has been posting price reductions.

Oh, and more foreclosures than I've seen since the '80s collapse.

And it won't be getting better, I think, all that soon. The recovery is going to take way longer than the crash.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 11:51 PM (QzJWU)

632 their way again. Not doom and gloom.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 11:49 PM (ONvIw)

Care to share?

Personally, my lightweight sorta, kinda prepper game has been upped. My 55gallon fresh water containter arrived yesterday.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:51 PM (s9Eo8)

633 We knew a guy with a Mazda rotary. He waited till a night with black ice, then pushed it off a hill. He did get the insurance money.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:51 PM (Lqy/e)

634
CA doctor is living in a tent in his garage to protect his family. He's a pulmonary specialist and is treating the Bat Soup Fever patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163289

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 28, 2020 11:52 PM (rCwaK)

635 "I wonder what you'd have to have wrong with you to make fun of a Pontiac Tempest from the early 60's."

Did the Tempest Lemans come out in '64? A guy used to run one at Green Valley around '66. Big block, straight bar axle. Thing was all over it's lane and would turn mid 11's.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 28, 2020 11:53 PM (Bwqq4)

636 I think the river place will sell, even with it's problems. In the same way fools buy boats, there is always someone that wants riverside property

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:53 PM (Lqy/e)

637 I think my favorite tip on how to land a man in 1958 is "stow away on a battleship".

Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (RU4sa)

638 Whether the horse has left or not, they have to be seen closing as many barn doors as possible.

==

it's a great way for them to trot out the ole "This is no time to be pointing fingers at who dropped the ball!"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 11:25 PM (G546f)


Because they're all pointin' their fingers at OrangemanBad.

Too much finger pointin' leads to mass confusion. And lockdowns.

Posted by: RickZ at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (Y8PSl)

639 My Avanti has the Dana 44 differential with Twin Traction, Packard's trademark for limited-slip.

On any brand other that Studebaker or Packard, a "TT" logo commemorates the Tourist Trophy.

GM's limited-slip clutch lubricant additive was, by all accounts I have read, the last commercial product made of whale oil.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (8IOEj)

640 Knew a guy who put a mazda rotary in a 914 porsche. Thing did wheel stands. Scary.

Posted by: stomo yamazda we called him gettinv the banned back together at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (ZTtPL)

641 It's been a hell of a Tuesday!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (2N7oZ)

642 637 I think my favorite tip on how to land a man in 1958 is "stow away on a battleship".
Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (RU4sa)

Pre-coed Navy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 28, 2020 11:56 PM (QrImU)

643 ..I've been focusing on Sneedville/Tazewell. I definitely want East TN, preferably hilly country. I'm looking for community.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:50 PM (Lqy/e)



Beautiful country, there. Colder winters than the areas of Texas I'd mentioned.

But yeah, I could live in TN. Especially starting about an hour East of Nashville, and going from there to the East. And if I'm not mistaken, like Texas, it's a no State Income Tax place?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 11:56 PM (QzJWU)

644 {{{{{Ladyl}}}}}

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 28, 2020 11:57 PM (/UQ/R)

645 True enough but a rotary out of an R100 is under 200lbs and one out of an early RX7 is under 300lbs.

Two non-soy men can easily pull those engines.
The biggest pain about the motor is not losing all of the seals and other fiddly bits when you are rebuilding it.
Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 28, 2020 11:49 PM (ycdBu)

Well, I used a '79 12A motor from an RX7 doing the Triumph engine swap, and that sucker was heavy. I used a hoist. Mind you, I was doing a lot of fitment stuff, so it was in and out numerous times.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2020 11:57 PM (miJU3)

646 Yes, no state income tax. There is a sales tax, even on food. And they tax dividends I think. But I can live there on social security and property taxes are cheap.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 28, 2020 11:58 PM (Lqy/e)

647 Great movie, funny movie.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 11:37 PM (pNxlR)

"The Guard" is a fine movie. Amusing plot, excellent acting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 29, 2020 12:00 AM (dLLD6)

648 Personally, my lightweight sorta, kinda prepper game has been upped. My 55gallon fresh water containter arrived yesterday.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 11:51 PM (s9Eo

Do you keep,that filled at all times, or fill it an hour or two before the unpredictable event?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 29, 2020 12:00 AM (Rz2Nc)

649 Interesting article in Quilette. The writer predicts that this epidemic drives a nail through the heart of European globalism and globalism in general. He noted that after the 1918 flu pandemic, Europeans and Americans became more nationalistic and conservative (with some ominous examples, like the start of xenophobic nationalism in Japan, for instance, which ended up getting nastily aggressive).

The thing is I'm non sure how much of that was due to the Spanish flu and how much of it was attributable to WWI.

It should be noted the author is a leftist and does not like nationalism, so he's not celebrating what he thinks is coming - the end of the EU and mass immigration. He thinks that the epidemic will simply speed up and intensify trends that were already occurring as shown by Brexit, Trump's election, Johnson's election, and the growing strength of other nationalist movements in Europe.

He thinks it sucks, but I hope he's correct (bearing in mind, of course, that nationalism in Europe can take pretty nasty forms.)

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 29, 2020 12:00 AM (d6Ksn)

650 LMAO watching Tucker showing Biden clips. Freakin hysterical and he is who the Dems want to run?
Saw a slap around last night, has he been around tonight and I've missed him? I'll have to shoot him an email sounds like he's feeling better everything.W

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:01 AM (YBMj0)

651 About NYers thumbing their noses at the quarantine? For once I wish the rest of the nation would follow and tell the government to get fucked.

Posted by: Sooner at March 29, 2020 12:01 AM (17KPj)

652 Awesome!!! The Hoff Brau Ten in Munich. Ah, the memories...such as anyone who passed out got their head shaved. Italian chicks are lightweights...and even lighter minus their bangs.

I spent quite a bit of time in that very tent...and was lucky enough to be over there when Reagan was up in Berlin telling the Russian spotted one to "TEAR DOWN THIS WALL."

On a side note...in downtown Munich, Hoff Brau has a beer garden with a classy eatery upstairs...but down stairs are a bunch of long tables where the serious drinking gets done. How serious you ask. Well, in the restrooms right next to the urinals you'll find the Puke Basins.

One of the best times of my stupid years.

Posted by: Orson at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (iSj2t)

653 @635 Part of the problem, not part of the solution.
That guy cut out every part of the car that was important.

Buick had a V6 in the Special in 1962 that would run with any small-block V8. Olds had a cute little supercharged motor with an intercooler and lubricant injector. Pontiac had the OHC six.

FWIW, Corvairs of that era would take a lame-assed Porsche around backward -- and if you've driven either one, you know that's not a euphemism.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (8IOEj)

654 I figure it's my last chance to do something wild and crazy. My husband would ask me if I would go to TN if he died. I always said yes. I want to see the places we talked about. I haven't found anyplace that I like as well.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (Lqy/e)

655 How was the Triumph TR7 an ugly car? Did it rust? I have no idea as mine was totaled back in '83 when I was broadsided by '78 Ford Bronco.

Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (2N7oZ)

656 525 516 I thought the Barrel invented Coronavirus?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (L2ZTs

Yeah. The barrel has a 'chocolate fountain' ala Golden Corral.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (Vy7tf)

657

I remember the TV commercials for Mazda's RX (pre RX-7) cars saying how much better they were than piston engine cars. Then in 1973 oil prices went up and that was that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (aKsyK)

658 Well now that there us no immediate NY quarantine, Florida should expect swarms of paniced blue state locusts just because it may really happen.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 29, 2020 12:03 AM (WQZ1O)

659 >>The thing is I'm non sure how much of that was due to the Spanish flu and how much of it was attributable to WWI.


And how much did WWI Troop movements magnify the Spanish Flu Outbreak.


Lotta ifs there.

But I'd be happy to see Globalism die a rapid death.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:03 AM (OazRT)

660 Heh. Just stepped outside to look at the stars. There was a night bird chirping and singing away. Rather pleasant in the dark of night. Then, a healthy red fox came trotting by about 40 feet away. It looked like it was on a mission.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:03 AM (CDGwz)

661 FWIW, Corvairs of that era would take a lame-assed Porsche around backward -- and if you've driven either one, you know that's not a euphemism.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (8IOEj)

Well, the Corvair engine does turn backwards...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (miJU3)

662 I've never been a Zappa fan, but I must admit:

a) that was an awesome guitar solo and

b) holy shit -- dude was ahead of his time. He made a Tool video when the members of Tool were being conceived.

Posted by: Pastafarian at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (sgHEm)

663 nobody on the ONT can recite the positraction scene from memory from My Cousin Vinny?



standards are slipping

Posted by: rhomboid at March 28, 2020 11:02 PM (El6T/)

---
another movie i've never seen.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 11:07 PM (vwf8z)

Tire tracks?


I-dent-ical!!!


Ms. Vito:
Whats positraction?

A: A limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The 64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.



Posted by: LASue at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (Ed8Zd)

664 657 I remember the TV commercials for Mazda's RX (pre RX-7) cars saying how much better they were than piston engine cars. Then in 1973 oil prices went up and that was that.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (aKsyK)


The third-generation RX-7 was a truly great car. Not perfect, by a long stretch, but great. It was built around a twin-turbo rotary engine. Hard to imagine a better expression for that engine.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (dOV9E)

665 On the box on the BBC Earth channel is " Supercharged Otters".
Shall I be concerned?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (k0Q8L)

666 Do you keep,that filled at all times, or fill it an hour or two before the unpredictable event?
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 29, 2020 12:00 AM (Rz2Nc)

I'm waiting the day before the unpredictable event to fill it.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (s9Eo8)

667 @645
As well you should have used a hoist, I only jest about being able to lift the motor by hand, you could in a pinch but why risk hurting yourself.

I've seen many rotary swaps, the funniest one was a 20B 3 rotor stuffed in a Geo Tracker.

Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 29, 2020 12:05 AM (ycdBu)

668 How was the Triumph TR7 an ugly car? Did it rust? I have no idea as mine was totaled back in '83 when I was broadsided by '78 Ford Bronco.
Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (2N7oZ)

Oh, yeah. They rusted something fierce. Probably made the poor BMW 3.0CS feel quite inadequate in that department.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:06 AM (miJU3)

669 641 It's been a hell of a Tuesday!
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (2N7oZ)

--I hope Gutfeld brings back that guy who apes Biden.

That's some funny shit.

[me, aping Slow Joe]

We have to be careful not to go too far . . .

Over the Top . . .

Great movie . . . Sly Stallone . . .

I'll arm-wrestle Putin over Ukraine . . .

Text DONATE to 46356!

I'm Joe Biden, and I forgot this message.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:06 AM (oZuI0)

670 665 On the box on the BBC Earth channel is " Supercharged Otters".
Shall I be concerned?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (k0Q8L)


Not if your pants have a seat reinforced with metal. Normal precautions before entering an otter-infested area.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:06 AM (dOV9E)

671 I'm waiting the day before the unpredictable event to fill it.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 29, 2020 12:04 AM (s9Eo

Awesome! Thanks for taking it as the joke it was meant to be.

Stay well all, still zero cases of Chinese bat soup virus cases in my county.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 29, 2020 12:07 AM (Rz2Nc)

672 Then, a healthy red fox came trotting by about 40 feet away. It looked like it was on a mission.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:03 AM (CDGwz)

When the last red man has vanished with this wilderness, and his memory is only the shadow of a
cloud moving across the prairie, will these shores and forests still be here? Will there be any
of the spirit of my people left?

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at March 29, 2020 12:07 AM (2N7oZ)

673 656 525 516 I thought the Barrel invented Coronavirus?
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 28, 2020 11:19 PM (L2ZTs

Yeah. The barrel has a 'chocolate fountain' ala Golden Corral.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (Vy7tf)


Cicero: that ain't chocolate

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 29, 2020 12:07 AM (L2ZTs)

674 The recovery is going to take way longer than the crash.

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2020 11:51 PM (QzJWU)


It always takes longer to build than to destroy. That's why some people love bomb-throwing anarchy. They are lazy.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 12:08 AM (Y8PSl)

675 Well, the Corvair engine does turn backwards...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-------

Solution: Rotate transmission 180 deg, forward. Install V8.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:08 AM (CDGwz)

676 653 FWIW, Corvairs of that era would take a lame-assed Porsche around backward -- and if you've driven either one, you know that's not a euphemism.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (8IOEj)


Porsches of that era would do a 180 of you breathed hard on them from the sidewalk.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:08 AM (dOV9E)

677 I'm sorry.......I truly cannot figure this out? You have shut down an entire state and cost thousands of people their jobs for an infection rate that is .003%! WTF!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 29, 2020 12:09 AM (/UQ/R)

678 The recovery is going to take way longer than the crash.

Posted by: Jim at March



You should be thinking how you are going to make $ in the recovery because it is going to be insane.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:09 AM (HALdu)

679 Oh, yeah. They rusted something fierce. Probably made the poor BMW 3.0CS feel quite inadequate in that department.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:06 AM (miJU3)


Somewhere down in the basement I still have the steering wheel. Maybe I should get it framed or something.

Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:09 AM (2N7oZ)

680 ..I figure it's my last chance to do something wild and crazy. My husband would ask me if I would go to TN if he died. I always said yes. I want to see the places we talked about. I haven't found anyplace that I like as well.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (Lqy/e)



Not only should you "do it", you should damn well do it up right.

Hell. Give Professor Glenn Reynolds a call at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville. You'd know him as the "Instapundit". Back when I kept an active blog, I'd had the pleasure of two or three phone conversations with him. He's an approachable guy.

Point being? Get an invite to one of the many social functions he either hosts or attends.

You'll make two years worth of introductions in a single gathering. Women, men, married, single, young old and everyone in between.

You *did* say, you wanted "community". Might as well connect with a conservatively oriented, 'net literate crowd (many who lurk here), right from the start!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 12:09 AM (QzJWU)

681 Will there be any
of the spirit of my people left?
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren
--------

Well, at least their recipes will survive.

Posted by: Pow Wow Chow at March 29, 2020 12:10 AM (xSo9G)

682 17 Minutes of Joe Biden's Melting Brain:

https://youtu.be/ADDrSvNyqEY


[and that shit could be updated]

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:10 AM (oZuI0)

683 NEWS: Judge Dolly Gee in the 9th Circuit has
ordered ICE to soon release all minors in custody over COVID-19. Not
immediately, but they have until April 9th to submit plans. They're
basing legal ruling on Flores settlement.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 10:06 PM (zqs/f)
SCOTUS issues an injunction in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 29, 2020 12:10 AM (nAiE/)

684 Compare the 1958 article with the Naked Florida Man & Woman & Alcohol story above. My how things have changed. Miss "Looking For A Husband" in 1958 was not advised to have naked drunken sex in a parking lot and then follow it up with recrimination wrestling afterwards.

Posted by: Boots at March 29, 2020 12:10 AM (oGBso)

685 There is a YouTube video of a young Zappa on the original Tonight Show with Steve Allen.
Zappa is playing a set of bicycle spokes.

Posted by: navybrat at large at March 29, 2020 12:12 AM (w7KSn)

686 637 I think my favorite tip on how to land a man in 1958 is "stow away on a battleship".
Posted by: SMH at March 28, 2020 11:55 PM (RU4sa)
---------------------------------------
Hey, sometimes the direct approach works best!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 29, 2020 12:12 AM (M/9m0)

687 Here I am!
Wok me like a Horseshoe Bat!

Posted by: Chicken of the Cave at March 29, 2020 12:12 AM (I05J2)

688 650 LMAO watching Tucker showing Biden clips. Freakin hysterical and he is who the Dems want to run?

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:01 AM (YBMj0)

Some commentator at another blog thinks that the Fox News poll that shows Biden winning the swing states was engineered by a conservative who wants Biden to stay in the race instead of being swapped out for someone who isn't, you know, senile.

That actually makes a bit of sense to me. When the story about the woman accusing Biden of sexually assaulting her broke, I thought it might have been engineered by the Dems so they would have an excuse to dump the old perv and run Cuomo instead - and that scared me. But the media is completely burying the story because they're too stupid to realize a country going through a massive trauma (first from the hysteria, then from the economic hardships this will cause) might not want to elect a guy who doesn't know what friggin' day it is half the time.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 29, 2020 12:13 AM (d6Ksn)

689 These two yutes.......What is an yute?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 29, 2020 12:13 AM (/UQ/R)

690 My how things have changed. Miss "Looking For A
Husband" in 1958 was not advised to have naked drunken sex in a parking
lot and then follow it up with recrimination wrestling afterwards.





Posted by: Boots at March 29, 2020 12:10 AM (oGBso)


Now you tell me.

Posted by: Emma Sulkowicz at March 29, 2020 12:13 AM (2N7oZ)

691 ..You should be thinking how you are going to make $ in the recovery because it is going to be insane.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:09 AM (HALdu)




Sufficient properties, be it suburban four-plex rentals, or country estates with acreage, hay to mow and sell, grazing right to lease and other income streams, will never go out of style.

And the right time to buy such, is when the bubble has burst, and the pain is at the peak.

What I'm *not* going to do, is go long in Pangolin Futures.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 12:14 AM (QzJWU)

692 464- about as many as brought the virus home from Mardi Gras and Spring Break?

Posted by: vivi at March 29, 2020 12:14 AM (11H2y)

693 Stay well all, still zero cases of Chinese bat soup virus cases in my county.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at March 29, 2020 12:07 AM (Rz2Nc)

Official count is 1 here, but we are confident (doctor diagnosed) that my grandson is coming out the back side of the bat soup virus. Which tells me that we have far more than are diagnosed out of our meager testing #s

Posted by: ghbucky at March 29, 2020 12:14 AM (s9Eo8)

694 Wok me like a Horseshoe Bat!
Posted by: Chicken of the Cave
---------

Wok Me Baby Like a Wuhan Flu

Posted by: Bob Dylan at March 29, 2020 12:15 AM (CDGwz)

695 The recovery is going to take way longer than the crash.

Posted by: Jim at March



The weird thing about the advice they gave about how to get a husband is that it would seem that in 1958 the did not have blowjobs and hardwwood.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:16 AM (HALdu)

696 Sufficient properties, be it suburban four-plex rentals, or country estates with acreage, hay to mow and sell, grazing right to lease and other income streams, will never go out of style.

And the right time to buy such, is when the bubble has burst, and the pain is at the peak.

What I'm *not* going to do, is go long in Pangolin Futures.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March




Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:17 AM (HALdu)

697 hey, I think I found the new theme song for the Biden campaign:
https://youtu.be/mWIH91sH1mI

Posted by: vivi at March 29, 2020 12:17 AM (11H2y)

698 not so! You and the Mrs. doing ok!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 29, 2020 12:18 AM (/UQ/R)

699
A pretty decent introduction to simulating an epidemic that includes social distancing, quarantines, and travel restrictions.

https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs

Not THE answer to what is happening now, but it does illustrate what actions mitigation steps are supposed to have. The narrator and creator has no ax to grind regarding what steps are getting taken IRL.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 29, 2020 12:18 AM (pNxlR)

700 I would like to be two drinks looped, but the liquor cabinet is in the other room. . . .
Bad planning.

Posted by: sinmi at March 29, 2020 12:19 AM (A5IVt)

701 night all, I have a full day of staying indoors ahead of me tomorrow, except for a walk at 8 am and another at 5, wearing a mask and gloves.

Posted by: vivi at March 29, 2020 12:20 AM (11H2y)

702 650 LMAO watching Tucker showing Biden clips. Freakin hysterical and he is who the Dems want to run?
Saw a slap around last night, has he been around tonight and I've missed him? I'll have to shoot him an email sounds like he's feeling better everything.W

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:01 AM (YBMj0)



All Trump has to do is treat Biden like he does the press and he will go crazy.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:20 AM (Z7lwY)

703 County by county Covid 19 infection and deaths reported

https://tinyurl.com/sa3abze


Interesting that some places have no reported cases, and even some populated counties have relatively few cases.

And some places that are not that heavily populated have a fair number of cases.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:21 AM (ZCiJZ)

704 I would like to be two drinks looped, but the liquor cabinet is in the other room. . . .
Bad planning.
Posted by: sinmi
------

Three words; Hip flask.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 29, 2020 12:21 AM (CDGwz)

705 I've seen many rotary swaps, the funniest one was a 20B 3 rotor stuffed in a Geo Tracker.
Posted by: Digging Deeper at March 29, 2020 12:05 AM (ycdBu)

Hah! I have contemplated that. I even have a Geo tracker. But it still runs.

Someone was asking about the advantages of a rotary motor.

1. They are incredibly smooth. No reciprocating motion. There are some unbalanced forces, but they are well compensated for

2. Low center of mass, basically in line with the main engine shaft. Makes for a flatter-cornering car.

3. Short overall length, and compact in general. Will fit where other engines making the same power will not.

Disadvantages?

1. They love to rev high, but if you exceed the rev limit, the apex seals get destroyed, and it can happen very quickly.

2. They use a lot of fuel, and a portion of each fuel charge is still burning as the exhaust port opens, so the exhaust is both very noisy, and very hot.

3. They consume oil.

4. Can be a real bitch to get started in extreme cold weather. The early ones a had a reservoir for ethylene glycol, and a pump to squirt it into the intake to help the apex seals seal on an extreme cold start.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:21 AM (miJU3)

706 I've been reading Instapudit longer than this blog. And I have a contact in Nashville from a dulcimer group. I've been here for 10 years and there's just no real community.

I have kicked around the idea of a Suburban. It would certainly tow a trailer. I'd have to rough it a bit but might be a cheaper option.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (Lqy/e)

707 Wok Me Baby Like a Wuhan Flu

Posted by: Bob Dylan at March 29, 2020 12:15 AM (CDGwz)


In touch with the ground
I'm on the hunt, I'm after you
Smell like I sound, I'm lost in a crowd
And I'm hungry for a bat

Posted by: Wuhan Wuhan at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (2N7oZ)

708 "Looking For A Husband"

Wasnt there one of those 8 page tiajuana bibles with that title?

Posted by: getting the banned back together minds in the gutter at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (mC7U1)

709 How was the Triumph TR7 an ugly car? Did it rust? I have no idea as mine was totaled back in '83 when I was broadsided by '78 Ford Bronco.
Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:02 AM (2N7oZ)

Oh, yeah. They rusted something fierce. Probably made the poor BMW 3.0CS feel quite inadequate in that department.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon



But....what about the TR-8?

They stuffed a 3.5 liter V-8 into the TR-7 chassis.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (ZCiJZ)

710 I'm sorry.......I truly cannot figure this out? You have shut down an
entire state and cost thousands of people their jobs for an infection
rate that is .003%! WTF!


Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.

Posted by: shibumi at March 29, 2020 12:23 AM (ZCiJZ)

711 Prince Pussywhipped and his L.A. skank's business plan is to cash in on the celebrity circuit and live off a "charitable foundation" so it's a very easy call... no, their security is a business expense just like it is for their thousands of celebrity peers, it would be an outrage, and government subsidy interference into a competitive celebrity business environment, if the public treasury was tapped for security expenses.

Posted by: yop at March 29, 2020 12:24 AM (nqhkI)

712 we're good.



you?

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:24 AM (HALdu)

713 Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.
Posted by: shibumi


Oh! You're such a know it all!

Get in here right now and explain yourself. Quit hiding in your office!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:25 AM (ZCiJZ)

714 710 Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.
Posted by: shibumi at March 29, 2020 12:23 AM (ZCiJZ)


(scratches head)

Because Dementia Joe would have done it all better?

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:25 AM (dOV9E)

715 651 About NYers thumbing their noses at the quarantine? For once I wish the rest of the nation would follow and tell the government to get fucked.

Posted by: Sooner at March 29, 2020 12:01 AM (17KPj)



I think the thing is most people are willing to do this TEMPORARILY because we actually do care for our fellow citizens and don't want to put them at risk

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:25 AM (Z7lwY)

716 ..I would like to be two drinks looped, but the liquor cabinet is in the other room. . . .
Bad planning.

Posted by: sinmi at March 29, 2020 12:19 AM (A5IVt)



I've just poured my initial bourbon for the evening.

Cheers!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. several dozen acres of Galveston grasslands are at present, on fire. far east side, on "the flats", extending both North and South of where Harborside Blvd. terminates at the South side of the Houston Ship Channel.

Link goes to ABC Channel 13, Houston:

https://tinyurl.com/rn7s6q9

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 12:25 AM (QzJWU)

717 English Muffin Pizzas are in the oven.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:26 AM (L0isT)

718 in fairness, even though harry is an idiot, American women > British women

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:26 AM (HALdu)

719 713 Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.
Posted by: shibumi


Oh! You're such a know it all!

Get in here right now and explain yourself. Quit hiding in your office!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:25 AM (ZCiJZ)



Get room you two!

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:27 AM (Z7lwY)

720 Prince Pussywhipped and his L.A. skank's business
plan is to cash in on the celebrity circuit and live off a "charitable
foundation" so it's a very easy call... no, their security is a business
expense just like it is for their thousands of celebrity peers, it
would be an outrage, and government subsidy interference into a
competitive celebrity business environment, if the public treasury was
tapped for security expenses.
Posted by: yop at March 29, 2020 12:24 AM (nqhkI)


I thought those assholes would never leave.

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at March 29, 2020 12:27 AM (2N7oZ)

721 718 in fairness, even though harry is an idiot, American women > British women
Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:26 AM (HALdu)


Well, not that one.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:27 AM (dOV9E)

722 And some places that are not that heavily populated have a fair number of cases.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:21 AM (ZCiJZ)

All it takes is 1 person, spreading the disease all over town...

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 29, 2020 12:28 AM (d6Ksn)

723 Well, not that one.
Posted by: Splunge at March




meh, that is the thing, bitch as she is he wanted her over everything there.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:28 AM (HALdu)

724 English Muffin Pizzas are in the oven.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:26 AM (L0isT)


Is there a Liz Hurley joke here?

Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:28 AM (2N7oZ)

725 Solution: Rotate transmission 180 deg, forward. Install V8.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:08 AM (CDGwz)

Putting Corvair engines in VW's was actually easy. Most models, you could "flop" the transaxle. Take the whole differential/axle assembly out of the case, and insert it from the other side. They eventually made the "tunnel case" transaxle with one side cover integral with the case, and I do not know if they can be flopped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (miJU3)

726 ..I have kicked around the idea of a Suburban. It would certainly tow a trailer. I'd have to rough it a bit but might be a cheaper option.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (Lqy/e)



Odds are, you could score quite a deal on one of those from Alberta Oil Peon.

Odds are, too, that he's wrenched on it already, and you could surely depend upon it to get the job done.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (QzJWU)

727 Nope. Though I would love to sample Nigella's Muffin.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (L0isT)

728 722 All it takes is 1 person, spreading the disease all over town...
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 29, 2020 12:28 AM (d6Ksn)


Shut up. Are you perfect or something?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (dOV9E)

729 I think the thing is most people are willing to do this TEMPORARILY because we actually do care for our fellow citizens and don't want to put them at risk
Posted by: buzzion at March



difference between agreeing and being ordered

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (HALdu)

730 So something made me go back to my days as a Corpsman assigned to Navy Regional Medical Center Oakland. (Now a dog park me thinks after the Nor-Cal Commies demo'd the whole site back around 2011. Actually, out of the dozen or so military bases in the Bagdad by the bay region,.....thinking Travis AFB is the only thing left?

But I digress......


We had one of our OR rooms rigged with banks of Ultra Violet lights to completely and I do mean COMPLETELY sterilize the entire suite during open hip replacement surgeries as before this they had one of the highest rates of post-op infections in spite of best current practices.

Guess what? Rate of post op infections dropped by 75 %


O.K long winded but you all know (being HORDE an all)


That UV light in appropriate wave lengths, kills 99.99% of all known Bacteria AND Viruses....on contact with said light.

Heck there are currently produced units to sanitize your phone, car ...hell your whole house....jus don't bath it it yourselves....serious sunburn + future visits to the Dermatologist for possible skin cancer issues and all that

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 12:30 AM (kFkpX)

731 703 we are in one of the red counties (.022%)

I'm guessing if Trump does the green yellow red zone thing we might get red zoned

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 29, 2020 12:31 AM (G546f)

732 Putting Corvair engines in VW's was actually easy. Most models, you could "flop" the transaxle. Take the whole differential/axle assembly out of the case, and insert it from the other side. They eventually made the "tunnel case" transaxle with one side cover integral with the case, and I do not know if they can be flopped.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------

There were conversion kits for making mid-engine Corvair V8's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:32 AM (xSo9G)

733 But....what about the TR-8?



They stuffed a 3.5 liter V-8 into the TR-7 chassis.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (ZCiJZ)


I had a TR7 Spider. In retrospect, I should not have run that red light.

Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 29, 2020 12:32 AM (2N7oZ)

734 shibumi.....just don't get it!

not so....we are fine...haven't killed each other yet and cooking plenty of good food

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March 29, 2020 12:32 AM (/UQ/R)

735 I have kicked around the idea of a Suburban. It would certainly tow a trailer. I'd have to rough it a bit but might be a cheaper option.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (Lqy/e)


Notsothoreau, there are some very cute lightweight travel trailers out there these days. Two of my favorites are a Little Guy Mini Max and Safari Condo Alto. Our minivan is rated for 3,500 lbs and can tow any of these.

Posted by: Emmie at March 29, 2020 12:32 AM (ouBhA)

736 688 hey donna
In any rational world Biden would be toast by now. These allegations against a republican would kill him. But Sundown Joe just seems to persevere and they keep putting out these clips where he sounds like an idiot. This is the most bizarre presidential campaign in my lifetime.

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:33 AM (YBMj0)

737 not so....we are fine...haven't killed each other yet and cooking plenty of good food
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at March




that is funny. we have had more time to spend cooking food.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:34 AM (HALdu)

738 ..That UV light in appropriate wave lengths, kills 99.99% of all known Bacteria AND Viruses....on contact with said light.

Heck there are currently produced units to sanitize your phone, car ...hell your whole house....jus don't bath it it yourselves....serious sunburn + future visits to the Dermatologist for possible skin cancer issues and all that

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 12:30 AM (kFkpX)



I've had such a light installed above the coils in my HVAC system, since 2009. Back then, those were about a $400 install.

You can buy the kit now at your commercial HVAC supply house, for right at about $100 even. Might take a pro 30 minutes to install and connect to the wiring.

Highly recommended.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 12:34 AM (QzJWU)

739 In any rational world Biden would be toast by now.
These allegations against a republican would kill him. But Sundown Joe
just seems to persevere and they keep putting out these clips where he
sounds like an idiot. This is the most bizarre presidential campaign in
my lifetime.

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:33 AM (YBMj0)


Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 29, 2020 12:34 AM (2N7oZ)

740 The biggest surprise of the campaign was learning that there really was some gang dude who went by "Corn Pop," back in the day.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:36 AM (dOV9E)

741 718 in fairness, even though harry is an idiot, American women > British women
Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:26 AM (HALdu)

--Still, Harry is a SIMP.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:36 AM (oZuI0)

742 I have kicked around the idea of a Suburban. It would certainly tow a trailer. I'd have to rough it a bit but might be a cheaper option.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:22 AM (Lqy/e)

Suburbans are great tow vehicles, and very comfortable for road trips. I love all of mine. The newest one, a 2008 is my least favorite for hauling, since the cargo area is smaller than the older ones. Also the lift gate is clumsy. I much, much prefer the barn doors on the older ones. The '96 I am driving now will carry a tall stack of drywall, and the doors will close on it. And I can get a few 12 foot pieces of lumber in there, too.

The '08 is great for road trips with passengers, though, and the six-liter engine has lots of jam.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:36 AM (miJU3)

743
--Still, Harry is a SIMP.
Posted by: logprof at March



sure bu there was no way he was not going to be seduced by the ways of some actress cum yacht girl from the U.S.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:37 AM (HALdu)

744
From the epidemic model "oops" thread of a few days back --

We lost all of our liberties to stop the Chinese Apocalyptiflu and...whoops, the models were bullshit and the credentialed classes were wrong.

Better luck next time?

Stop fetishizing PhDs and realize they're all invested in something and want to peddle their bullshit at everyone else's expense.
Posted by: Robert at March 26, 2020 01:57 PM (1Kcet)


You know what business "global warming" / "climate change" modelers are in, do you not? Making damn sure that they continue to get funding to run their bullshit models. And they will get funded, because their individual bullshit model is part of the Grand Canonical Ensemble of Climate Change Models and it MUST continue to exist for the UN to continue to drive the climate catastrophe bullshit. Organized crime could learn a thing or two from Big Science.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 29, 2020 12:37 AM (pNxlR)

745
Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.
Posted by: shibumi


Then we get the NEW New Deal followed by WW3.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 29, 2020 12:37 AM (aKsyK)

746 Get room you two!
Posted by: buzzion

Well, we are.
Off to bed.

Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 29, 2020 12:38 AM (ZCiJZ)

747 727 Nope. Though I would love to sample Nigella's Muffin.
Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:29 AM (L0isT)

--LMAO, there is an official Nigella vid entitled "Nigella Lawson's Fluffy Pancakes and Savoury Muffins":

https://youtu.be/MzcjyNxP0-E

Savor, all y'all straight Morons! You're welcome!

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:39 AM (oZuI0)

748 There were conversion kits for making mid-engine Corvair V8's.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:32 AM (xSo9G)

Yep. I knew a guy who did one. If a later-year Corvair hardtop or convertible ever came my way at the right price, I would snag it. They are very pretty cars. GM did a fine styling job on them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:39 AM (miJU3)

749 Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio

https://youtu.be/o_VQ8upnG0s

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:41 AM (Z7lwY)

750 Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio

Also changes name to DeWagon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 29, 2020 12:41 AM (L2ZTs)

751 >> Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio


Yeah - Not a smooth move there, Gov.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:42 AM (L0isT)

752 749 Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio

https://youtu.be/o_VQ8upnG0s
Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:41 AM (Z7lwY)


(checks party) What? A Republican? Dude. Riots are not a good look.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:42 AM (dOV9E)

753 Destroy the US economy completely. Blame Trump. A democrat is elected. Simple really.

Posted by: shibumi at March 29, 2020 12:23 AM (ZCiJZ)


Been saying that since this whole Wuhan Virus panic started.

When you think about it, it's the Dems' only play this election. Trump had the economy roaring, with historic (?) low unemployment numbers. A president with his economic numbers was a shoe-in for reelection. Plus Trump survived the government spying on his campaign, then the Russian Collusion Delusion, then impeachment, with his polls numbers steadily increasing through all that bullshit. Add in Sundowner Joe or Bernie the Commie as a candidate and a Dem win is even more of a fantastical hope and a prayer. Tanking the economy is their only play in order to win the presidency. So screw the people, their jobs and their small businesses and kill the economy with this massive overreaction lockdown. Taking away Constitutional rights is a pleasant bonus for them, a flexing of their totalitarian muscles, a portent of things to come should they win.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 12:42 AM (Y8PSl)

754 When you think about it, it's the Dems' only play this election. Trump had the economy roaring, with historic (?) low unemployment numbers. A president with his economic numbers was a shoe-in for reelection. Plus Trump survived the government spying on his campaign, then the Russian Collusion Delusion, then impeachment, with his polls numbers steadily increasing through all that bullshit. Add in Sundowner Joe or Bernie the Commie as a candidate and a Dem win is even more of a fantastical hope and a prayer. Tanking the economy is their only play in order to win the presidency. So screw the people, their jobs and their small businesses and kill the economy with this massive overreaction lockdown. Taking away Constitutional rights is a pleasant bonus for them, a flexing of their totalitarian muscles, a portent of things to come should they win.
Posted by: RickZ at March




The economy is going to take off like a sprint missile when this is over.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:43 AM (HALdu)

755 Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:33 AM (YBMj0)

They had 3 years and Biden was the best they could come up with. Floors me too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 29, 2020 12:44 AM (d6Ksn)

756 I did not stockpile toilet paper.
I did not stockpile paper towels.
I did not stockpile paper napkins.
I did not stockpile Kleenex.

But damn if I didn't stockpile plenty of meat and booze, just in the process of living my life. Eh, I'll take it.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2020 12:44 AM (dOV9E)

757
The small hospital where I had my knee replacement done using these robots to sterilize rooms with UV light. After a patient leaves, they close the blinds and send this robot in which irradiates all surfaces with UV light of the right properties and duration.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 12:44 AM (rCwaK)

758 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvZGaMt7UgQ

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:45 AM (HALdu)

759 That UV light in appropriate wave lengths, kills 99.99% of all known Bacteria AND Viruses....on contact with said light.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 12:30 AM (kFkpX)


People now either forget or don't know UV light, along with fresh air, was used to treat TB patients.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 12:45 AM (Y8PSl)

760 Thanks for Nigella, Prof.

Yummy Nigella.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:45 AM (L0isT)

761 Thanks for Nigella, Prof.

Yummy Nigella.
Posted by: garrett at March



attractive face but big girl

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:47 AM (HALdu)

762 These allegations against a republican would kill him.

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 12:33 AM (YBMj0)


If the DNC propaganda arm does not cover it, it never happened.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 12:47 AM (Y8PSl)

763 Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio

https://youtu.be/o_VQ8upnG0s

---

Been awhile since I've been Rickrolled.

Funny.

Posted by: SMH at March 29, 2020 12:49 AM (RU4sa)

764 760 Thanks for Nigella, Prof.

Yummy Nigella.
Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:45 AM (L0isT)

--HQ Hall of Fame

Honourary Cooktress of the Horde

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:49 AM (oZuI0)

765 763 Governor DeWine Announces Closure of ALL Alcohol Sales in Ohio

https://youtu.be/o_VQ8upnG0s

---

Been awhile since I've been Rickrolled.

Funny.

Posted by: SMH at March 29, 2020 12:49 AM (RU4sa)



Yeah I got it on facebook. I figured it wasn't true but I had to look.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 12:50 AM (Z7lwY)

766 attractive face but big girl
Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:47 AM (HALdu)

--You're fucked

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:52 AM (oZuI0)

767 >>attractive face but big girl


More Muffin for the stuffing. ...or something.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:52 AM (L0isT)

768 One of the South Korean videos I watched had a "bed cleaner". It was a small vacuum, with a UV unit to sterilize the bed. You can get them from Amazon. The SK videos I've seen make me think it's their attention to cleanliness that is keeping infection rates low.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:53 AM (Lqy/e)

769 >>Honourary Cooktress of the Horde

She and Giada are gonna have to Crisco up and settle that.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:53 AM (L0isT)

770 I am also moving, Emmie, so I need to tow my stuff with me. If I could, I'd get another old Airstream. But I need to buy a place to live in and I want to own it outright.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:55 AM (Lqy/e)

771 I love me some Nigella Fowleri! Also known as the Brain-eating Amoeba. Put me on the path I'm on today, buster!

Posted by: Joebi Den at March 29, 2020 12:55 AM (I05J2)

772 The gubner of Michigan has decided to, unexpectedly, blame Trump for her completely worthless planning and response skillzzz. Did I mention she's a Dem?

She's a dim Dem. So Trump gave her a little tweetlove.

"I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen "Half" Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn't have a clue," Trump wrote on Twitter. "Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude!"

Halfwit. I think he's being generous...

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 29, 2020 12:55 AM (Z4rgH)

773
Yep. I knew a guy who did one. If a later-year Corvair hardtop or convertible ever came my way at the right price, I would snag it. They are very pretty cars. GM did a fine styling job on them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------

I drove one of the Fitch-prepared Corvairs. It was pretty fine. By '69 it was a completely different car than in the beginning. Another potentially great car, killed by the bean counters, and Ralph Nader.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:56 AM (xSo9G)

774 She and Giada are gonna have to Crisco up and settle that.
Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:53 AM (L0isT)

Now, that would be PPV worthy!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 12:56 AM (miJU3)

775 Splurge. This otter protection assumes foolishly that there are pants involved from the start.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 12:58 AM (k0Q8L)

776 I just need cargo space for dogs and treadle sewing machines (although I have my bucket list machines now). Prices seem decent on 200-2008 models. I do have a mechanic that could check one out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (Lqy/e)

777 I have a couple of UV bulbs, but cannot really imagine a practical use for them. Also have a couple of transformers suitable for ozone generation, but, ditto.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (xSo9G)

778 She and Giada are gonna have to Crisco up and settle that.
Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 12:53 AM (L0isT)

--I'll pay, but I guess max of ten people at that event.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (oZuI0)

779 --You're fucked
Posted by: logprof at March




you talking about nigella lason?




in what universe is she not big?

do you know who she is?

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (HALdu)

780 I've got some UVs I need to install in my Elvira Machine. Illuminated star posts and some strips for the dark areas sporting uV paint.

Still chasing my tail on that damn short / relay board, though.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:00 AM (L0isT)

781 734 WDS
We are doing the same, cooking some great meals. We've had some great shrimp out of the freezer yesterday Jules made a kick-ass French onion soup, it's to die for.

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 01:00 AM (YBMj0)

782 ..The economy is going to take off like a sprint missile when this is over.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:43 AM (HALdu)




In general terms? Yes.

But there are tens of thousands of businesses and millions of people who've already been destroyed by this crash.

People who last year were business owners, will be starting over as someone else's employee.

The "economy" will come back, indeed.

But a pretty fair number, and a not insignificant percentage of those so harmed, will be much longer to recover, if ever.

Lamp posts on Constitution Avenue in D.C., and of similar import in damn near every State, need be decorated with the traitors who engineered this catastrophe.

They tried to funnel us into an extinction level event.

Fuck them. WAR.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 01:01 AM (QzJWU)

783 Come the Apocalypse, the only things left will be cockroaches and Frank Zappa videos.

Not sure which one is worse....

Posted by: NukemHill at March 29, 2020 01:01 AM (X/P8e)

784 >>--I'll pay, but I guess max of ten people at that event.


As soon as they started, everyone would have to take a step back to maintain proper Social Distance precautions.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:01 AM (L0isT)

785 in what universe is she not big?

do you know who she is?
Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (HALdu)

--I'm beginning to see why Donna&&&& told you GFY.

You're a lower m moron.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:02 AM (oZuI0)

786 >>in what universe is she not big?


She is the very definition of voluptuous.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:03 AM (L0isT)

787 I drove one of the Fitch-prepared Corvairs. It was pretty fine. By '69 it was a completely different car than in the beginning. Another potentially great car, killed by the bean counters, and Ralph Nader.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 12:56 AM (xSo9G)

Take an Oldsmobile 215 aluminum V8, and fit that to a Corvair, in the stock location. Mount a custom aluminum radiator up front, with electric fans. If the Corvair rear axle cannot be flipped to work with a CW-rotating engine, use a VW beetle transaxle; they are plenty tough, and can be made tougher.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:04 AM (miJU3)

788 And I am normally not a fan of the full figured ladies. But Nigella is downright sexy as fuck. and it's not just the accent and the obvious affinity for steamy hot otter sex that she exudes.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:04 AM (L0isT)

789 ...on second thought. It is that.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:05 AM (L0isT)

790 That UV light in appropriate wave lengths, kills 99.99% of all known Bacteria AND Viruses....on contact with said light.



So what you are saying is with $8T we should be able put a giant tanning booth over NYC and set the timer for how long?

Oh, why bother with the lights and timer, just put the booth over it and move on.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 29, 2020 01:05 AM (1g7ch)

791 --I'm beginning to see why Donna&&&& told you GFY.

You're a lower m moron.
Posted by: logprof at March



heh, there you go, name calling, good boy. you are going to insult me and call names for disagreeing about whether some chick is chubby.

You should work out your issues at home.

search her name and weigh she was everywhere discussing how she got rid of 12 kilos.

whether or no you have a thing for chubby chicks, she is a chubby chick.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:05 AM (HALdu)

792 Everything asleep but me so I'll call it a night.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 01:06 AM (Lqy/e)

793 She is the very definition of voluptuous.
Posted by: garrett at March



meh, you are being generous with the def, she is more rotund, maybe rubenesque.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:08 AM (HALdu)

794 I just need cargo space for dogs and treadle sewing machines (although I have my bucket list machines now). Prices seem decent on 200-2008 models. I do have a mechanic that could check one out.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 29, 2020 12:59 AM (Lqy/e)

Do try to avoid the models with the huge one piece lift gate. It is a PITA to use. You have to unlatch it, and then step back, as the arc it makes going passes right through your face. "Barn doors" are by far the handiest configuration, and no complicated mechanisms to go bad, either. Just oil the hinges now and then, and you are golden.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:09 AM (miJU3)

795 And I am normally not a fan of the full figured ladies. But Nigella is downright sexy as fuck. and it's not just the accent and the obvious affinity for steamy hot otter sex that she exudes.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:04 AM (L0isT)


Admit it, it's her chocolate recipes. A wife who makes good homemade chocolate brownies leads to buns in the oven.

From what I've watched, Nigella gives good chocolate.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 01:09 AM (Y8PSl)

796 Probably a previously banned contrarian dickbag.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 01:10 AM (Z7lwY)

797

I'd never heard of Nigella, and just looked her up. Very nice indeed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 01:11 AM (rCwaK)

798 She is the very definition of voluptuous.
Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:03 AM (L0isT)

--I don't think not so smart even watched that video. She's rockin' in it.

As long as the hip:waste ratio >1, not unattractive, at all.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:11 AM (oZuI0)

799 I'm watching Demon City Shinjuku, cause I need some 80s schlock anime.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 29, 2020 01:12 AM (LxTcq)

800 I'd never heard of Nigella, and just looked her up. Very nice indeed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear

--He dad, Nigel Lawson, was a Tory MP in the UK back in the day.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:13 AM (oZuI0)

801 Like I said, I like petite brunettes.

Appreciate them all. But the petite brunettes can trip me pretty easily.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:13 AM (L0isT)

802 LMAO, waist, not waste.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:13 AM (oZuI0)

803 >> I don't think not so smart even watched that video. She's rockin' in it.

He's just baiting you -- this is his idea of fun. Avoid the bait, and don't pay any attention.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 01:14 AM (rCwaK)

804 Who dissed Nigella?
You will be horsewhipped peon

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 01:14 AM (k0Q8L)

805 If the Corvair rear axle cannot be flipped to work with a CW-rotating engine, use a VW beetle transaxle; they are plenty tough, and can be made tougher.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------

My recollection of the mid-engine Corvair kits is that the engine rotation had to be reversed. Different cam and changed distributor gear.

This is a *vague* recollection.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:15 AM (CDGwz)

806 Ruminating on the Soundtrack for Ace's Escape from NY this afternoon and I'm thinking :

White Horse by Laid Back


the Vespa chase in particular.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:16 AM (L0isT)

807 796 Probably a previously banned contrarian dickbag.
Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 01:10 AM (Z7lwY)

--Mayhaps.

If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:16 AM (oZuI0)

808 Who dissed Nigella?
You will be horsewhipped peon
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 01:14 AM (k0Q8L)

Hey! Not me!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:17 AM (miJU3)

809 >>If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.


I'd say yes just hoping a 'drink' meant someting filthy in British Slang.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:17 AM (L0isT)

810 gun stores and ranges are "essential" according to Uncle Sam...
suck it Gavin Newsom! (page 3: open the law enforcement, public safety link)

https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential
-critical-infrastructure-workforce

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 29, 2020 01:18 AM (vwf8z)

811 804 Who dissed Nigella?
You will be horsewhipped peon
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 01:14 AM (k0Q8L)

--The same dipshit who pissed off Donna&&& last night.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:18 AM (oZuI0)

812 809 >>If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.


I'd say yes just hoping a 'drink' meant someting filthy in British Slang.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 01:17 AM (L0isT)



A drink and a snog.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 01:18 AM (Z7lwY)

813 --I don't think not so smart even watched that video. She's rockin' in it.

As long as the hip:waste ratio >1, not unattractive, at all.
Posted by: logprof at March



she was giving interviews bragging about how she got rid of 12 kilos, she is big.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:19 AM (HALdu)

814 Bagging on the heavy chicks-- well, well, well.

Reminds me of a very nice girl I used to work with. She was maybe 5'8", weighed probably 160-170... not sure but she wasn't tiny. She happened to be very pretty and polite, dressed to the nines each day and smiled all. the. time.

She was dating a (huge!) big guy for a while, but later they broke up and I overheard him talking about how she was "so f***ing fat". He was being absolutely nasty in his commentary about HER weight! (Pot, kettle, blahblah)

I called him an a-hole and hypocrite right then and there.

Posted by: JQ at March 29, 2020 01:19 AM (whOIk)

815 --The same dipshit who pissed off Donna&&& last night.
Posted by: logprof at March



hey, you are doing quite a bit of the name calling thing, do you want me to show you where to get some more words?

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:21 AM (HALdu)

816
If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared
at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and
you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:16 AM (oZuI0)

---
kinda young for me, but i'd buy that for a dollar...


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 29, 2020 01:21 AM (vwf8z)

817 she was giving interviews bragging about how she got rid of 12 kilos, she is big.
Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:19 AM (HALdu)


--You're ragging on a woman who *lost* weight. Who is also a mom.

Please, kindly bugger off.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:22 AM (oZuI0)

818 If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.
Posted by: logprof at March




saying yes does not mean she is not big in a bad way.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:22 AM (HALdu)

819 They tried to funnel us into an extinction level event.

Fuck them. WAR.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 01:01 AM (QzJWU)

Yup, this whole 'if we're nice to them they will leave us alone' thing has not worked.

Time to put the proverbial foot down.

Gaia is trying to kill us, Fuck her.

Socialists are trying to take our shit, F them.

Gays and Trans are trying to make us Gay, I would say F them, but they'd enjoy it, so just, NO!

School system is full of Lefties, Damn them.

Illegals should not be here, go Home, get out.

Being nice has not worked, its time to be pissed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 29, 2020 01:24 AM (NgKpN)

820 My recollection of the mid-engine Corvair kits is that the engine rotation had to be reversed. Different cam and changed distributor gear.

This is a *vague* recollection.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:15 AM (CDGwz)

I don't think so. Stock Corvair: CCW engine rotation gives CCW rotation of rear wheels, as viewed from left side. Car goes forward.

Mid-engine V8 conversion: the entire transaxle assembly is removed, and turned front to back. What was the left rear wheel is now on the right, and vice versa. Clockwise engine rotation gives clockwise rotation of right rear wheel. Car goes forward.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:24 AM (miJU3)

821 --You're ragging on a woman who *lost* weight. Who is also a mom.

Please, kindly bugger off.
Posted by: logprof at March



you seem to be missing the finer point there big guy.

where did I criticize her for losing weight here?

if she did not believe she needed to get rid of the weight and did not think it was something to brag about she would not have said anything.

see how that works there?

do you not have access to internet search?

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:25 AM (HALdu)

822 Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:22 AM (HALdu)

--Bugger off.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:25 AM (oZuI0)

823 I have being making quiet observations. I have to say I have I have no fucks to give reference him.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at March 29, 2020 01:25 AM (k0Q8L)

824 My dad owned a Suburban. He traded it in for a Prius. My family are all NPCs.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 29, 2020 01:25 AM (LxTcq)

825 Good night all, it's been fun. Good health and best wishes to you all I'm off to snooze.

Posted by: Farmer at March 29, 2020 01:26 AM (YBMj0)

826 --Bugger off.
Posted by: logprof at March



heh, that is it? just insults?

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:26 AM (HALdu)

827 'Night, Farmer.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:26 AM (oZuI0)

828 Yeah, nitey night from flyover country...

Be well, horde!

Posted by: JQ at March 29, 2020 01:27 AM (whOIk)

829 You give people what they deserve.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 01:27 AM (Z7lwY)

830 Nite, Farmer!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:28 AM (miJU3)

831 Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:26 AM (HALdu)

--What do you thing bugger off means? Not an insult, just GTFO.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:28 AM (oZuI0)

832 --What do you thing bugger off means? Not an insult, just GTFO.
Posted by: logprof at March



meh, but you do know it is vulgar? it is suited to your commentary.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:30 AM (HALdu)

833 Okay, taking the Donna approach and shunning not so smart's posts.

They're a waste of bandwidth.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:31 AM (oZuI0)

834 Okay, taking the Donna approach and shunning not so smart's posts.

They're a waste of bandwidth.
Posted by: logprof at March



you should have thought of that before you shit the thread over someone suggesting a girl was big.

good thing it is there for everyone to read

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:32 AM (HALdu)

835 833 Okay, taking the Donna approach and shunning not so smart's posts.

They're a waste of bandwidth.
Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 01:31 AM (oZuI0)

Yup, giving an attention whore attention, feeds into the dysfunction.

And sadly, dysfunction IS contagious.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 29, 2020 01:33 AM (NgKpN)

836 Yup, giving an attention whore attention, feeds into the dysfunction.

And sadly, dysfunction IS contagious.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March



yeah, read the thread, and get back to us.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:33 AM (HALdu)

837 Heh. In the last 24 hours, I have had three people call to check on me...all *much* older than me. One 92 year-old, one 91 one year-old, and one 83 year-old.

The 90+ are both Korean War Vets, the other is an aged widow down the street who likes to give Mike Hammer's Dog scritches when I take it for a walk.

I feel like a complete ass, I should have been checking on them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:33 AM (CDGwz)

838 There is always...that

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:34 AM (kFkpX)

839 >> They're a waste of bandwidth.

Yes, you're being baited. Your buttons are being pushed to draw you into a fight. This is his idea of fun.

Some people like to argue, like to be contrarian, but this goes well beyond that. It's like the guys who go into bars looking to start a fight. Some of the old timers around here used to talk about some of the high tone redneck honky tonks that would get pretty rough.

Some guy would come in and pick a fight with the first guy he sized up as a likely target. That was their idea of a fun Saturday night.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 01:35 AM (rCwaK)

840 824 My dad owned a Suburban. He traded it in for a Prius. My family are all NPCs.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 29, 2020 01:25 AM (LxTcq)
----------------------------

What can you do but laugh?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 29, 2020 01:36 AM (M/9m0)

841 If in another universe, Nigella Lawson appeared at your door and asked you if you wanted to go for a drink with her, and you said "nah," well, you might be an idiot.


I am an idiot. I'd still say yes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 29, 2020 01:37 AM (SchxB)

842 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 01:35 AM (rCwaK)

Studies are out that show that every time you get a 'hit' on social media, you get a little endorphin hit.

Thing is? The attention does not necessarily have to be positive, it just needs to be attention.

Some assembly required.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 29, 2020 01:38 AM (NgKpN)

843 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 29, 2020 01:38 AM (L2ZTs)

844 837
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:33 AM (CDGwz)
------------------------------------------
That is so sweet of them. Really.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 29, 2020 01:40 AM (M/9m0)

845 heh



"I've had to tell American tv station s not to airbrush my sticking out stomach," she wrote. "The hatred of fat, and assumption that we'd all be grateful to be airbrushed thinner is pernicious."

Nigella Lawson



https://tinyurl.com/y8jymjbh

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:40 AM (HALdu)

846 Clockwise engine rotation gives clockwise rotation of right rear wheel. Car goes forward.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------

Yeah. Now I'm trying to recall what swap *required* a reverse rotation...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:41 AM (CDGwz)

847 UV....light

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:43 AM (kFkpX)

848 Yes, you're being baited. Your buttons are being pushed to draw you into a fight. This is his idea of fun.

Some people like to argue, like to be contrarian, but this goes well beyond that. It's like the guys who go into bars looking to start a fight. Some of the old timers around here used to talk about some of the high tone redneck honky tonks that would get pretty rough.

Some guy would come in and pick a fight with the first guy he sized up as a likely target. That was their idea of a fun Saturday night.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March




yeah, sure, where was the baiting?

my original comment was

"attractive face but big girl
Posted by: not so at March"


Then he shit the thread.

Posted by: not so at March 29, 2020 01:43 AM (HALdu)

849 Nigella is a real woman with really nice tits.
I don't see a problem here.

Posted by: Case at March 29, 2020 01:43 AM (U5lak)

850 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:33 AM (CDGwz)
------------------------------------------
That is so sweet of them. Really.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
-----------


Yeah. I feel like a schmuck, but I know that they have families that watch after them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:43 AM (CDGwz)

851
Yeah. Now I'm trying to recall what swap *required* a reverse rotation...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
----------
Ah! Possibly mid-engine Chevy into Beetle?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:45 AM (CDGwz)

852 But I may crack open another bottle and drift exceedingly sideways into Putin's sexualy explicit .....well mostley thus


did I say NSFW

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:46 AM (kFkpX)

853 Jim?

Gotta save me now before I.....

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:47 AM (kFkpX)

854 Apparently a report was published today that my zip code has the 2nd largest number of COVID positive tests in our fair city (Philadelphia). Which, of course, is causing a panic amongst my friends and neighbors. Now, our neighborhood is pretty tight-knit, almost everyone has at least heard of mostly everyone else. Not as much as in years past, lots of change over the years, but still a decent connection. Anyway...nobody seems to know any of these positive-testing people personally. It's always "my cousin's best friend works at X hospital and they saw the bodybags being delivered". Can't find any actual evidence. Asking questions is still verboten. "Wait two weeks, you'll see!" they said two weeks ago. They're still saying it. It's like waiting for Huber.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at March 29, 2020 01:48 AM (mgJUX)

855 Pike pole.......you all know the drill....

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:49 AM (kFkpX)

856 Not all sports are reruns. Tiz The Law won the Florida Derby today in an impressive fashion. Keep his name in mind when the Ky Derby finally rolls around.

Posted by: Twba at March 29, 2020 01:54 AM (WYdcS)

857 "HORSEY"

I'll give a carrot

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:56 AM (kFkpX)

858 Ah! Possibly mid-engine Chevy into Beetle?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 01:45 AM (CDGwz)

That would be hard to do. You would have to cut out the strongest part of the floor pan and "backbone", and then build a subframe to replace it.

Anyway, I am running out of steam. Time to call it a night. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2020 01:56 AM (miJU3)

859 ..Jim?

Gotta save me now before I.....

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:47 AM (kFkpX)



Buy a Prius?

Move to the San Francisco Bay Area?

Join Scientology?

*trying to think of all the bad options, here*

LOL

But seriously, don't you ever hesitate to write. email is in my nic.

And if you're relocating Southward, well, the Tx Mo Meet is in October.

Won't be quite so far a drive then, now, will it?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2020 01:57 AM (QzJWU)

860 Yeah.....

Gotta pull 10 in the Urgent Care in less then 8...night all

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 01:59 AM (kFkpX)

861 South Korea's numbers released. 105 new cases but 21 of those are from airport screenings alone. Sadly, 8 more deaths. It seems like they are having a hard time keeping people 80 years and older from surviving. 21 people in that age group have died in the last 5 days, making up 50% of all deaths to date, while only 8% of deaths are under 60.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 01:59 AM (zqs/f)

862 861 South Korea's numbers released. 105 new cases but 21 of those are from airport screenings alone. Sadly, 8 more deaths. It seems like they are having a hard time keeping people 80 years and older from surviving. 21 people in that age group have died in the last 5 days, making up 50% of all deaths to date, while only 8% of deaths are under 60.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 01:59 AM (zqs/f)



I mean it sucks to think about but how many of those people over 80 would have been alive a month from now anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:01 AM (Z7lwY)

863 the loveliest batch of cognitive dissonance is the one ive observed here in which these two simultaneous claims exist: (1) our death rate per capita is miniscule, therefore any reaction is unwarranted and also (2) china is totally lying, and it's way worse there than anyone there has admitted.

good job team. my crazy dad who reads this horseshit is now 10% less likely to take proper precautions and something like 20% more likely to die. (to be clear, i made these numbers up completely!)

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:01 AM (CG0BS)

864 859


Jim


yes you , may you have the sleeps of sleeps.....

your worth that much in my book.

another day

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:02 AM (kFkpX)

865 863 the loveliest batch of cognitive dissonance is the one ive observed here in which these two simultaneous claims exist: (1) our death rate per capita is miniscule, therefore any reaction is unwarranted and also (2) china is totally lying, and it's way worse there than anyone there has admitted.

good job team. my crazy dad who reads this horseshit is now 10% less likely to take proper precautions and something like 20% more likely to die. (to be clear, i made these numbers up completely!)

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:01 AM (CG0BS)



China's cases have been at 80,000 for at least the last 3 days. With no change. Are you saying that they're not being dishonest.

I've also not seen anyone say any reaction is unwarranted. I've seen people question if what we're doing is an overreaction. but that is different.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:05 AM (Z7lwY)

866 I think it is extremely likely that China is being dishonest. Do you not think it is extremely unlikely that fucking riots over there over containment, plus the extrapolation of our growth in death rare is not cause for concern?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:11 AM (CG0BS)

867 lotsa comments ... probably all answers regarding life and godliness are contained therein ... somewhere.

HCQ cocktail will turn the R-naught from 3.0 to 0.3 ... we will be saved the horrible forecasts. Assuming they have enough to give it to everyone right after testing positive, and assuming the political left doesn't try to sacrifice lives just to keep from giving Trump any credit.


Dr. Zelenko doesn't give it to people under 60 if they are healthy, because he says they will recover on their own, as has been proven. (and there are minor side effects to the drug) But if they have shortness of breath, they get the treatment ... and certain other situations I'm sure.


Amazing to me, is the resistance to even try it, by some ... not sure how widespread that is. I thought it would be full steam usage last Monday. They wasted a week, an extra thousand dead. I haven't followed up every statement made, but it seems like many countries are on board with the HCQ cocktail now ... I expect a massive turn in the epidemic outlook within a week. It works within a few days, from all I've seen.


There are some other research efforts, but not essential, if this is as good as it seems with the 1000s of cases in France, and almost almost ~500 by Dr. Zelenko in NY, as well as more data now pouring in. He said many of his colleagues are joining him in using it. But social media is still pumping out hate for Trump's dangerous treatments, sad to say.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 29, 2020 02:13 AM (Cus5s)

868 859

just in case

Sleep the Sleep of KINGS!

You deserve at least that...

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:13 AM (kFkpX)

869 I mean it sucks to think about but how many of those people over 80 would have been alive a month from now anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:01 AM (Z7lwY)

Probably a good number. That may explain why South Korea is reporting a mortality rate of 1.59% while Germany is reporting a much lower rate of 0.75%, which is said to only include COVID-19 as cause of death if its the primary cause of death.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 02:13 AM (zqs/f)

870 Um... not first?

Posted by: socalcon at March 29, 2020 02:15 AM (WAnre)

871 870 did read content, tho

Posted by: socalcon at March 29, 2020 02:16 AM (WAnre)

872 869 I mean it sucks to think about but how many of those people over 80 would have been alive a month from now anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:01 AM (Z7lwY)

Probably a good number. That may explain why South Korea is reporting a mortality rate of 1.59% while Germany is reporting a much lower rate of 0.75%, which is said to only include COVID-19 as cause of death if its the primary cause of death.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 02:13 AM (zqs/f)



Yeah consistency in reporting would be nice.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:16 AM (Z7lwY)

873 plus the extrapolation of our growth in death rare is not cause for concern?
Posted by: ashamed to say
--------

I think it is a matter for extreme concern, and every practicable effort to control things ought to be undertaken, but, this a unique and new circumstance. There's a learning curve for everyone, and a very short time to get things under whatever limited control is possible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 02:16 AM (xSo9G)

874 Not all sports are reruns. Tiz The Law won the Florida Derby today in an
impressive fashion. Keep his name in mind when the Ky Derby finally
rolls around.

---

NASCAR looks to be playing video games again tomorrow, too

Posted by: Methos at March 29, 2020 02:19 AM (kOpft)

875 Holy Crapping me...

the clock is against me now......posting so late.

gotta do 5 hours of sleep instead of 8

hate you all for entrigging me so


"Burma Shave"

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:20 AM (kFkpX)

876 Um... not first?

Eh, close enough.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 29, 2020 02:20 AM (SchxB)

877 876 Um... not first?

Eh, close enough.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 29, 2020 02:20 AM (SchxB)



If he identifies as First you must consider him so.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:21 AM (Z7lwY)

878 appreciate your acknowledgement of the appropriate level of concern. i agree. i dont thing all your readers do, though: e.g. my dad just 3 days ago said to me "i've read so many things about the overall death rate, and i frankly dont know what to think" and then went on to tell me that he was freely going to appts., etc. he is 65+, and this is outwardly foolish.

he's a smart dude. i've now found a place that has rhetoric sufficiently sanguine (and lucid and cogent!) on covid to explain where his attitudes come from.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:22 AM (CG0BS)

879 to be clear, i also understand you're not the proprietior of this hear blog. i am assuming you endorse a fair amount of its opinions, however.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:23 AM (CG0BS)

880
If he identifies as First you must consider him so.
Posted by: buzzion
-------

Temporal prejudice has no home here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2020 02:23 AM (CDGwz)

881 lotsa comments ... probably all answers regarding life and godliness are contained therein ... somewhere.

HCQ cocktail will turn the R-naught from 3.0 to 0.3 ... we will be saved the horrible forecasts. Assuming they have enough to give it to everyone right after testing positive...

....


Posted by: illiniwek at March 29, 2020 02:13 AM (Cus5s)

How could we not with this Israeli company donating 6 million, and soon 10 million tablets of the stuff... ?

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/israel-firm-to-donate-potential-covid-19-treatment/


I think this drug is very cheap and easy to produce, thank God!

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 02:23 AM (zqs/f)

882 Pike....yadda...yadda....yaadda

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:23 AM (kFkpX)

883 ugh, *here*. because a lot of folks here are pretty clear writers, i was pressuring myself fairly intensely to avoid such errors.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:24 AM (CG0BS)

884 883

consider Dragon Pro....

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:26 AM (kFkpX)

885 My son has been watching some Asians on Youtube. They say that China has this cultural tradition called the "Mandate of Heaven".

The idea is that if a regime encounters a great conflict or calamity, "Heaven" is telling the Chinese people that they need a new government.

So this would explain why Xi would be trying to squash a widespread knowledge and thus widespread reaction to the epidemic.

Posted by: Axeman at March 29, 2020 02:26 AM (Eicbe)

886 I think this drug is very cheap and easy to produce, thank God!

IIRC, and I probably don't, it costs something on the order of 5 cents a dose to produce.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 29, 2020 02:27 AM (SchxB)

887 Ask TAIWAN.......

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:28 AM (kFkpX)

888 885 My son has been watching some Asians on Youtube. They say that China has this cultural tradition called the "Mandate of Heaven".

The idea is that if a regime encounters a great conflict or calamity, "Heaven" is telling the Chinese people that they need a new government.

So this would explain why Xi would be trying to squash a widespread knowledge and thus widespread reaction to the epidemic.

Posted by: Axeman at March 29, 2020 02:26 AM (Eicbe)



Yeah Mandate of Heaven is like old Chinese Imperial stuff. Probably similar to Classical favor of the gods stuff is a good way to see it. You will be successful so long as you have it. Of course probably a bunch of retroactive losing the mandate of heaven in their history.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:32 AM (Z7lwY)

889 >> I mean it sucks to think about but how many of those people over 80 would have been alive a month from now anyways.

There will be a way to see that after it's all over and complete data can be analyzed. If you see a drop in the over 80 mortality rate for a period after this is over, then that will indicate that. If not, then they would all be "excess deaths".

I'm sure it will be somewhat in between and you can squeeze out some excess death factor.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 02:32 AM (rCwaK)

890 I do not wish you to ask the WHO...(lost their shit 3 days ago)

The CDC is STILL modeling off of FERGUSON...even though HIS modeling is now..proven GARBAGE!!!!

SO WTF??? we are now home sheltering on CRAP SCIENCE??????????? F Me

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:35 AM (kFkpX)

891 >>appreciate your acknowledgement of the appropriate level of concern. i agree. i dont thing all your readers do, though: e.g. my dad just 3 days ago said to me "i've read so many things about the overall death rate, and i frankly dont know what to think" and then went on to tell me that he was freely going to appts., etc. he is 65+, and this is outwardly foolish.


Perhaps experience has taught him that he is a good judge of risk and reward. And after examining the evidence has decided that he's just not as concerned as you.

Lotta shit in life could kill you. Most of it comes straight out of the blue. Some of it is avoidable. Some isn't.

We can only endeavor to persevere or some shit.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:36 AM (L0isT)

892 besides why worry about Coronavirus? We're all dead from all the gun violence, and repealing of Net Neutrality, global warming, etc.


Gosh why are people so skeptical of the government telling us stuff?

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:37 AM (Z7lwY)

893 The Tax Cuts killed me 2 years ago.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:39 AM (L0isT)

894 Which is a total shame because I was living high on the hog for those Obama years, let me tell you!

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:39 AM (L0isT)

895 RE: China

Apparently the Chinese govt is in a full-court press to blame any second wave of outbreak on foreigners. They publish daily numbers of "imported" cases, conveniently leaving out they are returning Chinese nationals and will highlight the one or two white visitors who have the virus. They warn people to stay clear of hotels where these imported cases are being quarantined and encourage businesses and restaurants not to allow foreigners inside their shops. And pretty soon Beijing will have more official cases than Wuhan (there numbers are going in opposite directions).

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 02:40 AM (zqs/f)

896
Take Italy, the overall mortality rate has increased by 20% country wide, and 80% in that Lombardy region that was the hardest hit.

Now, when this thing is over, it will be interesting to see what happens to that overall mortality rate. It might well drop, indicating the "killed off the older and sicker sooner" effect.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 02:41 AM (rCwaK)

897 891

you kidding?

The shit is in the proofing...the proofing is corrupted and the MSM is still buying the bullshit and uptempoing for clicks.


we have been had.....big time....we have been had.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:42 AM (kFkpX)

898 I don't trust European nations not to allow this to kill off their most expensive citizens.

This thing is gonna press re-set on their Ponzi schemes.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:43 AM (L0isT)

899 @55 -- wow, that was a long commentary ago, but yeah, cleaning
i do off time pizza nascar driving, an art
same to be said for everything, really
sweep, mop, whatever
this is drudgery? -- don't you know there are people starving in Chi-Na...
stupid psycho bosses can fuck right off. i get paid by the customer

wait, whut?
clean is a thing? who knew? do it or go through the motions, ah yes.
clean begets clean

Posted by: micky at March 29, 2020 02:45 AM (3byMq)

900 870
Um... not first?

Posted by: socalcon at March 29, 2020 02:15 AM (WAnre)

---
where in socal?


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 29, 2020 02:47 AM (vwf8z)

901 >>Lotta shit in life could kill you. Most of it comes straight out of the blue. Some of it is avoidable. Some isn't.

We can only endeavor to persevere or some shit.

beautiful. say that to your father while he is literally killing himself. (eh, killing himself in the statistical sense where his probability of surviving x years has dropped by y% because he is being stupid.).

I am a mechanical engineering phd, I definitely get that there are costs associated with social distancing, etc. I am feeling the costs as we speak. My MD wife may find she has to self-quarantine (there is lots of anecdotal evidence that care providers are getting hit much harder by covid than the general population, probably due to "dosage" effects). I fully understand that the economic drawbacks must be considered. But i don't think y'all completely understand the degree to which this could go badly. FL idiots are going to the beach, still, today. Probably bc they read shit on similar websites to this one saying fear is overblown. The logarithmic graphs are clear. things are gonna get worse before they get better. if I was sober, i'd make a more coherent argument, but since i am not you will have to deal with my word-vomit (y'all should love word-vomit you think trump has a coherent world-view! and moreover one which jives with your own. and y'all are smart)

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:48 AM (CG0BS)

902 Ah so it's a troll.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 02:50 AM (Z7lwY)

903 Has the dampening, tiresome, Just asking. .boring half-troll gone away yet?

Just asking.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 02:50 AM (oZuI0)

904 899

pizza

I love...love...love... pizza

after that...still love a good pizza pie

oh.....a pizza...dang..can I watch....no seriously


these are the times......

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:52 AM (kFkpX)

905 i am a troll in the sense that it's the first time i've been here on comments. i'll admit that. what made me officially a troll in your eyes? was it that i wondered that folks who could make clear and cogent arguments are pro trump? was it the fact i admitted ive had a few pops here in quarantine?

i did write my name as "im ashamed to say it" in attempt to preempt the trolling comments.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 02:54 AM (CG0BS)

906 >>The logarithmic graphs are clear. things are gonna get worse before they get better.


They are only based on data sets that HAVE to be inaccurate (at best) at this point.

We've been over this time and again. ALL of these projections are skewed towards the populations that are already infected and showing severe symptoms.

Nobody is going door to door and surveying entire populations.
Our best REAL ACCURATE Data comes from the Cruise Ship that was quarrantined for 30+ days. (What fucking luck that was, really. For us. Not the passengers.)
And that Data contradicts heavily with much of what is being HYPED by Media.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:55 AM (L0isT)

907 A lot of people are skeptical that shutting down businesses and telling people not to go to work for weeks at a time will have a significant effect to slowing down the outbreak. How is NYC still seeing large increases in new cases if no one has left their home in two weeks?

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 02:58 AM (zqs/f)

908 DEAR HORDE

I'm thinking time to UNFUCK ourselves from the MSM/WHO/CDC beatdown.....

All in Favor....

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:58 AM (kFkpX)

909 The tiresome half-troll did not bugger off.

And its new hash ends in BS.

Ipso facto.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:01 AM (oZuI0)

910 908 DEAR HORDE

I'm thinking time to UNFUCK ourselves from the MSM/WHO/CDC beatdown.....

All in Favor....
Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 02:58 AM (kFkpX)

--I sit through MSLSD to appease my mom.

I go to frontpagemag.com for my actual news.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:03 AM (oZuI0)

911 910
Log.
still
ya gotta be saying to yourself at least......this just don't pan out.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:09 AM (kFkpX)

912 in what way do cruise ships that have a 1% mortality rate disprove the common conventional wisdom among "experts" that the disease will have a 0.1 to 1.5 percent mortality rate?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:10 AM (CG0BS)

913 But Hey!!!
Cuz I'm over 60...get cuts in the line into Ralph's

Hell-a Cool......right?

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:14 AM (kFkpX)

914 >> in what way do cruise ships that have a 1% mortality rate disprove the common conventional wisdom among "experts" that the disease will have a 0.1 to 1.5 percent mortality rate?


Stick to Mechanical Engineering.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:17 AM (L0isT)

915 OT/

Found something amusing... I'm filling out a Federal application for a background check, e-Quip, for a new job I'm starting. And for the page on personal identification they have down for options on hair color purple, pink, and blue.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 03:18 AM (zqs/f)

916 914 >> in what way do cruise ships that have a 1% mortality rate disprove the common conventional wisdom among "experts" that the disease will have a 0.1 to 1.5 percent mortality rate?


Stick to Mechanical Engineering.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:17 AM (L0isT)


And have someone else double check the work.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 03:19 AM (Z7lwY)

917 >>And for the page on personal identification they have down for options on hair color purple, pink, and blue.


Can you write in Fuschia?

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:19 AM (L0isT)

918 ...still only two genders, though.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 03:19 AM (zqs/f)

919 God Love ya, Buzz.


Hands down, my favorite ghost. And I am not saying that lightly.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:20 AM (L0isT)

920 super funny garrett, thanks. pls. do some math for me. a 1% death date would be disastrous. onus is on you to explain why not, or why expert consensus is wrong.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:20 AM (CG0BS)

921 yes, by the way, i understand that the main harbinger of doom walked back his most dire predictions in the UK. but you have also no doubt heard the counterargument that his change *accounted* for the new governmental restrictions. So you have to explain why, even without self-quarantine, etc., everything was going to be less dire than people feared.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:22 AM (CG0BS)

922 Whatever, I'm going straight to Heaven.

https://youtu.be/fZjzjisli6E

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:25 AM (oZuI0)

923 I have already explained this 2 times in this Thread.

The Cruise Ship gives us a tiny population from which we can extrapolate a worst case scenario?

Why worst case? Because the majority of the population will not be exposed to the degree that those 4k people were.

Even then, without correcting for Age and Health History of the Deceased passengers we are just working with a less incomplete model here.

(Do you think the Cruise ship and a fully staffed Hospital are providing equitible treatment?)

NOWHERE is any projection accounting for the known unknowns that were accounted for in the Cruise breakdown. Making it MORE useful. But not infallible.

Taking this into account, the top 1/3 of your scale is a ridiculous projection. We are likely looking at something that will come in at .25 or less, here in the USA.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:27 AM (L0isT)

924 or, i suppose, that the prognostications in the case of no intervention were an equal or less tradeoff to the economic damage of shutting some shit down

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:29 AM (CG0BS)

925 HORDE

Like I have said before,

If we could test(Immuno-Assays) a cross section of people who went to ER's, Urgent Cares and Doctor's offices back in December 2019, who presented AS FLU...but tested NEGATIVE for Type-A and Type-B...we would find that COVI-19 was here way back then............December people....December which means the "BELL CURVE" is off..buy a magnitude of 10. Meaning ...we are on the back side of this....not the front side

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:29 AM (kFkpX)

926 Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:27 AM (L0isT)

--Like the comment, but I think the links did not stick.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:30 AM (oZuI0)

927 Didn't that doom and gloom doctor say he was wrong. Not that with the new information and implemented protections the numbers change, but that his initial prediction was completely wrong.

Posted by: buzzion at March 29, 2020 03:31 AM (Z7lwY)

928 Very nicely explained.
https://www.thehinduopinion.com/2020/03/all-about-serial-raat-ka-khel-saara.html

Posted by: Hindu at March 29, 2020 03:32 AM (+17yy)

929 I think 0.25% in the US is not totally unreasonable. That would still result in approx. 150,000 deaths, in the absence of intervention.

H1N1 infected 61 million people in the US. But only about 12k died. I think it is reasonable to argue that 12k additional deaths in a year is *not* reason to hold up the economy.

On the other hand, assuming the same infection rate, (which may not be reasonable! early estimates suggest covid is *more* infective than h1n1!), we get 61 million infected = 152k deaths. over 10x worse than h1n1.

Personally, I think your estimate of 0.25% is on the low end. South Korea had the most extensive testing in the world and their death rate was over 1%. I don't think it's crazy to suggest 1-1.5% is possible.

Now. What is the cost of social quarantine vs. saving 150k+ mostly old people? I don't know. But my dad is literally reading this here webpage and deciding *not* to be careful because of what he reads here. That seems unwise.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:38 AM (CG0BS)

930 Who here ever told old people to not be careful, troll? The consensus has been explicitly for old and immunocompromised people to be careful, you disingenuous twat.

Posted by: ... at March 29, 2020 03:41 AM (433H8)

931 >>I think 0.25% in the US is not totally unreasonable.


I think that is the High side of what I would consider reasonable projection at this point.

If the Azith cocktail (or any other yet to surface course of action) works 1/2 as effectively as early studies suggest, it won't be anywher near that.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:42 AM (L0isT)

932 >>Now. What is the cost of social quarantine vs. saving 150k+ mostly old people? I don't know. But my dad is literally reading this here webpage and deciding *not* to be careful because of what he reads here. That seems unwise.


Is he out licking doorknobs and fucking streetwalkers?

Or is he taking sensible precautions and living his life in a way that he is comfrotable with?


Again, give him some credit. He's seen a lot more shit than you at this point in both of your lives.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 03:44 AM (L0isT)

933 927

The UK Epidemiologist "Ferguson" after laying out "55,000" deaths in the UK alone....walked that back BIGGLEY to less than 20,000....MAYBE.....not so much.....sorry....my bad...

this is what we get yet the MSM slammed us with this 24/7

and the US took these numbers and ran with it



no wonder...

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:48 AM (kFkpX)

934
Just stumbled across this. They've put up case and death data on Github, both state level and county level. So if you want to delve into that, here it is:

https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data

CSV files.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 03:49 AM (rCwaK)

935 Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:38 AM (CG0BS)

--What part of bugger off did you not get?

Small m moron.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:50 AM (oZuI0)

936 But Hey!!!
Cuz I'm over 60...get cuts in the line into Ralph's

Hell-a Cool......right?

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:14 AM (kFkpX)


I get my own special elderly hour at the grocery stores. The one hour just after opening, when the deli is closed and the meat counters aren't stocked. Yeah, cool.

I also love the new '10 customers only limit in stores at one time' rule. That was even applied at one grocery store. That didn't make people waiting in line outside just to go grocery shopping happy at all. We're no longer the 'patiently waiting' demographic of the Great Depression. Our 'diversity is our strength' new populations have no concept of waiting in line -- for anything.

People are starting to (finally) get pissed off at this mixed message close-not close, shut down-not shut down, essential businesses-not essential businesses, voluntary (who checks?) isolation crap thanks to the Wuhan Virus. As noted, infection/death numbers are all over the map.

Mother Gaia has a myriad of ways to kill us, now with more Chinese assistance. We've lost the whole 'common sense/self-reliance' concept of living. And here we are, being force fed PANIC!, watching us self-immolate our economies. All because OrangeManBad and must not be reelected.

I have to wonder when Americans are going to say enough is enough. If they ever say that.

Posted by: RickZ at March 29, 2020 03:50 AM (Y8PSl)

937 Oh please no. Raw data! I'm a recovering Data Junkie

CSV is the hard stuff. Never been steped on.

No....no.....!

Posted by: pawn at March 29, 2020 03:52 AM (Hq+qX)

938 Tornado warning just as the ont hits.
Wht does that mean?
Posted by: f-5

"Auntie Em ! Auntie Em ! Its a twister ! Its a twister !"

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 03:54 AM (arJlL)

939 Time for me to go horizontal on a firm mattress......

night.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:54 AM (kFkpX)

940 i honestly can't say whether people here have recommended that those older than, say, 50 be careful. i haven't read this site until today.

what i can tell you is that the views y'all seem to endorse on this page have somehow caused my dad to reach the conclusion that he should say "fuck it. we're dining out tonight"

i honestly don't know what the azith cocktail is, and hopefully my discussion so far has led you to believe i am open to learning about it.

but i would suggest that projecting downward bends on the curve due to some as-yet-realized medical advancement is probably wishful thinking. you all do appreciate the degree to which our FDA is capable of fucking something like that up, right?

places like korea bent the curve the "hard way" and I think that is the only option here. I think openly pushing against that strategy is harmful, and that is why I am wasting my precious, drunken hours arguing with like 2 people on the far corner of the internet about it.
now, i should be clear: it could be that he is just stone fucking dumb. I don't think anyone should be held accountable for stone fucking dumb people misinterpreting their comments and doing something stone-fucking-dumb.

e.g. drinking fish tank cleaner or whatever, obviously not trumps fault.

but this whole "give him some credit" argument is completely detached from any sort of numeracy. I base my decisions on data, so should he slash you slash anyone else.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 03:55 AM (CG0BS)

941 939 Time for me to go horizontal on a firm mattress......

night.
Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 03:54 AM (kFkpX)

--Same here

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 03:57 AM (oZuI0)

942 one more time...

The pike pole....leathaly stained...thrusting ...Upwards

Yippie-Yie-Yaa-COWBOY!!!!

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 29, 2020 04:00 AM (kFkpX)

943 Man, like your giving Phds a bad name.

Posted by: pawn at March 29, 2020 04:03 AM (Hq+qX)

944 holy shit didnt realize the level of technical illiteracy at this page where people think csv is scary.

personally: i like to put my money where my mouth is. is anyone in a betting mood? at what level of deaths will you agree that isolation is important?

or is your long game to say that any death toll only indicates the protective measures we took unnecessary? e.g. say 1 million people die. you might argue that social distancing was worthless because 1 million died. you might also argue that it was worthless if only 100 people die, because it was no big deal.

so: pick a number. i'm not rich, but i can email and come to agreements for reasonable sums of money, (probably in the hundreds of dollars) that i am in the right ballpark about the overall death toll.

to me, this is a clearly non-partisan, humanitarian, global disaster. and yet, we have a stark split along party lines of how serious the pandemic is. that is a surprising and interesting effect. It's my feeling that conservatives' cognitive biases are distorting the truth in their eyes. obviously y'all beliebe that it is my liberal biases that is distorting the truth in my eyes. who is willing to put money on it?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:06 AM (CG0BS)

945 >> at this page where people think csv is scary.

You realize that comment was a joke, don't you?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 04:15 AM (rCwaK)

946 Is palin steele back?

Do we really want another dum dum?

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 04:18 AM (oZuI0)

947 yas. but a joke like that wouldnt even make sense on a website with non technical-fuckwits.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:18 AM (CG0BS)

948 logprof, i will probably never come back. was a weird confluence of upsetness, drunkeness, anger, loneliness, etc. that brought me here.

i do challenge you to bet me on the future of the worldwide, or even just US effect of the virus.

I argue that anyone here who is unwilling to do so is actually scared that I am correct that this is a bfd.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:22 AM (CG0BS)

949
Nobody is going door to door and surveying entire populations.
Our best REAL ACCURATE Data comes from the Cruise Ship that was quarrantined for 30+ days. (What fucking luck that was, really. For us. Not the passengers.)
And that Data contradicts heavily with much of what is being HYPED by Media.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2020 02:55 AM (L0isT)

Wifey just got off the 'phone' with fam in the Philippines. Total lockdown as best as this poor screwed up country can manage. One person per household gets to go shopping. Three checkpoints before they get to the department store. Then another guy with a thermal unit pointed at your forehead. 110 million population. Niece (smart cookie with bs in nutrition) does not know of anyone that is sick, much less dead. Does not understand how many people will die of inability to buy drugs that would keep them alive from heart ailments, diabetes, etc because they cannot now earn an income. says the government is passing out rice and sardines.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 04:23 AM (Vy7tf)

950 >> but a joke like that wouldnt even make sense on a website with non technical-fuckwits

You've obviously never been around highly technical fuckwits, because they make jokes about data formats all the time. Rather nerdy jokes. I'm such a fuckwit, BTW, a technical fuckwit, and I know these things.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 04:23 AM (rCwaK)

951 That's Dr. Fuck-Wit, please.

Posted by: pawn at March 29, 2020 04:23 AM (Hq+qX)

952 North by North West with Cary Grant
Indiscreet with Cary Grant
Almost anything else with Cary Grant

Yes!

"Arsenic and Old Lace" - I fond myself giggling and saying "Chaaaaaaaarge!" when I see the latest Biden gaffe nowadays.

"Charade" and "Notorious" = Grant is smokin' with Ingrid Bergman in the latter
Posted by: Lizzy

Bringing up Baby and Operation Petticoat

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 04:24 AM (arJlL)

953 929 I think 0.25% in the US is not totally unreasonable. That would still result in approx. 150,000 deaths, in the absence of intervention.

A year and a half worth of abortions.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 04:25 AM (Vy7tf)

954 haha, i am familiar with data format jokes. but everyone who has ever dealt with data knows that csv is easy. but great, good joke, congrats! you guys are funny. who is interested in bets?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:27 AM (CG0BS)

955 953 929 I think 0.25% in the US is not totally unreasonable. That would still result in approx. 150,000 deaths, in the absence of intervention.

which means your concern should be 150% of that of abortions! this is an outstanding argument. I am interested in hearing more of your ideas...

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:29 AM (CG0BS)

956 CSV is easy, yes it is. But then someone offers you some SQL queries and you think you can handle it. It's how it always starts.

Posted by: pawn at March 29, 2020 04:32 AM (Hq+qX)

957 >> but everyone who has ever dealt with data knows that csv is easy.

Easy, huh. Yeah, right. Quick, clone that github repo and get your two state and county .csv files. Now write a routine to read that in, say for NYC.

Now, from that get a date series of total cases and deaths vs time for NYC. Now run some quick least-squares routines, fitting the logs to a linear fit. Spit out the doubling rate.

Do that right now. You'll quickly find the tedious and error prone nature of simple text CSV files.

Anyone who has ever done elementary programming will confirm this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 04:34 AM (rCwaK)

958 quick update: you are super funny, and i am a troll. when should we bet to resolve my trolliness and your serious-business-ness?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:35 AM (CG0BS)

959 957 >> but everyone who has ever dealt with data knows that csv is easy.

Easy, huh. Yeah, right. Quick, clone that github repo and get your two state and county .csv files. Now write a routine to read that in, say for NYC.

Now, from that get a date series of total cases and deaths vs time for NYC. Now run some quick least-squares routines, fitting the logs to a linear fit. Spit out the doubling rate.

Do that right now. You'll quickly find the tedious and error prone nature of simple text CSV files.

Anyone who has ever done elementary programming will confirm this.

I literally don't know what you're talking about. I have two such spreadsheets on my computer now. One for all states, and one for my local area.

It's basically copy/paste. But you spat out some excellent lingo. Care to bet?

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:39 AM (CG0BS)

960 953 929 I think 0.25% in the US is not totally unreasonable. That would still result in approx. 150,000 deaths, in the absence of intervention.

A year and a half worth of abortions.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 04:25 AM (Vy7tf)


Ummm....there are around 1.2 MILLION abortions per year.

150,000 CV deaths is 12.5% of abortions per year, or about 6 WEEKS worth.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 04:49 AM (OuZMr)

961 Day 17 of the apocalypse
Logging in

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 04:49 AM (ZCEU2)

962 >> But you spat out some excellent lingo.

Wait a minute doctor, you were ragging on everyone here for being technically illiterate and innumerate. Do I detect that my lingo was a bit over your head, doctor? Didn't understand what I was talking about did you doctor?

Yes, Excel can easily read in a well formed CSV file. Now, it's just a matter of making sure that data is where you think it is, and which field is which. But you've never done anything like that. Dunning-Kruger, look it up.

Maybe ask your father. You've still got a lot learn for him.

And you may be laboring under the impression that I think it's a nothingburger too. I don't. It's something burger, and the only question is how big that something is going to be. My guess is it's going to be less of something than the hysterical lunatics are claiming.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 04:50 AM (rCwaK)

963 I saw 800,000 abortions per year while we are trying to save just one life from Wuhan.


Which of course is why I don't believe them a second

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 04:52 AM (ZCEU2)

964 FWIW, we are looking at 2,200 deaths in the entire US as of today.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 04:53 AM (OuZMr)

965 The Cary Grant people left out "Charade," which you shoudn't do, because Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at March 29, 2020 04:53 AM (YqED9)

966 which means your concern should be 150% of that of abortions! this is an outstanding argument. I am interested in hearing more of your ideas...
Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:29 AM (CG0BS)

China lung rot is a one off that will destroy the livelihood, and lives of millions through the shutdown, not the virus itself. Abortions kill as many as you predict from this flu EVERY YEAR. priorities. The Philippines can manipulate 110 million people for the flu but cant manage to eradicate TB. priorities

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at March 29, 2020 04:54 AM (Vy7tf)

967 As said Leftists have a new way to control a population, strike fear of a unknown disease then lock them down.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 04:56 AM (ZCEU2)

968 1) with regards to abortion numbers, i am very sorry to say the only number i had at hand was the one provided me by the comments on this very website. i would not have claimed it needed 150% of the attention if someone had not previously claimed my deathrate for covid was 150% of the abortion rate.

2) with regards to lingo, of course i have written scripts which clean up date files to make then suitable for csv. but still, i am super impressed with you. you seem awesome at it.

i'm sorry i mentioned the phd. it screamed inadequacy and i should have never done it. but please, keep flexing your dick about writing a simple script to read a data file.

i think i already mentioned how impressed i am, but can't help but mention in again.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:56 AM (CG0BS)

969
I find it quite hard to believe that a claimed Ph.D in mechanical engineering has never heard of a least squares fit.

Indeed, I find that astonishing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 04:57 AM (rCwaK)

970 shit. you're being so annoying i just realized you're *turning me into a troll*

I just want to be you fools actual money that more people will get this thing, and more people will die than you think.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 04:57 AM (CG0BS)

971 We may be down to 800,000 abortions per year by now, Skip - the numbers have been decreasing since 2008 (the data I was using).

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 04:57 AM (OuZMr)

972 You wanna bet that I can lick myself clean?

Well, do you? DO YOU?

Of course, collecting on that bet will be harder than paying me $5 at the ole gloryhole for a toothless tonguebath.

That's why my website is acecomments.mu.nu/
dontgiveafuck@dontgiveafuck.com

Posted by: ashamed to say it, but I shit myslef this morning, again at March 29, 2020 04:58 AM (XF4b8)

973 https://covid19stats.global/state/
Updated Sat evening, Pennsylvania at 34 deaths, billions lost in revenue.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 04:58 AM (ZCEU2)

974 ugh. holy fuck where did i say i hadn't learned of least squares?

i just didn't feel like digging into because i was trying really hard *not* to be a troll.

but, since you asked, it's about minimizing the squared error between a line of best fit and a set of data points. my preference is to do it with matrices, i've always been a sucker for linear algebra. but frankly, todays computing packages do it so well (matlab, python) that you barely have to worry about method or theory, and the computer does it for you pretty well.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 05:01 AM (CG0BS)

975 I have added up the Johns Hopkins numbers a few times, I never saw them give totals.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:02 AM (ZCEU2)

976 Just out of curiosity, ATSI, how many people (or percentage of people) do YOU think are going to die from this?

Not being aggressive here - it is obvious that you are very worried about your father and love him very much.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:04 AM (OuZMr)

977 I am *not* a troll. I just play one on overnight threads.

Posted by: ashamed to say it, but I shit myself this morning, again at March 29, 2020 05:05 AM (XF4b8)

978 Not going to lay here nearly 2 hours today, I nesd covfefe

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:05 AM (ZCEU2)

979 half-troll shew its ass by calling Nigella fat.

'nuff said.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 05:08 AM (oZuI0)

980 "Abortion Incidence in the United States" is put out every 3-4 years. I think there may have been one published in 2017. They pull their numbers from the Guttmacher Institute - Planned Parenthood's numbers people. CDC doesn't have numbers from California because they choose not to report them.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:10 AM (OuZMr)

981 Hey, does anyone want to bet that my dick is shorter than a duck's?

If you are under the age of 14, I can send pics.

Send two dollars and SASE to dontgiveafuck@dontgiveafuck.com

Posted by: ashamed to say it, but I shit myself this morning, again at March 29, 2020 05:13 AM (XF4b8)

982 thanks teresa.

i think predicting an overall death total is very difficult, but i do think it's easy to say it will pass that of H1N1.

The predicitions I trust most are those on metaculus (essentially a betting market popular in the rationalist community...people who pride themselves on getting predictions within a certain bound of uncertainties).

https://www.metaculus.com/questions/

the current median guess there is that almost 1.5 M americans will test positive by april 27. multiply by 1% and that is 15,000 deaths, by april.

That assumes current distancing measures. I think that any messaging that discourages the current distancing measures (or more) is deeply dangerous.

I appreciate the charity with which you asked the question. Some of the writingof the proprietors of this blog (and the fact that my dad reads it, and I obviously find him to be reasonable, kind, and intelligent) led me to believe discussion here would be more reasonable. Thank you.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 05:13 AM (CG0BS)

983
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 29, 2020 05:14 AM (aUm7V)

984 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 05:16 AM (arJlL)

985 Teresa sell isn't that just to convenient

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:17 AM (ZCEU2)

986 Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 29, 2020 05:19 AM (Dhht7)

987 Mornin', all

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 05:21 AM (Z/jzm)

988 Did the storms pass through near you, olddog?

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 05:22 AM (Z/jzm)

989
If you want a reasonable discussion, don't post drunk, and for fuck's sake don't drop credentials and tell us all what illiterate, innumerate, non-technical fuckwits we are.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:23 AM (rCwaK)

990 americanthinker.com/numerators and denominators in the coronavirus saga
https://tinyurl.com/qv7hcdk

Two times adding up Johns Hopkins numbers was getting %1.4, but that was some days ago. More testing shows, more infection but less deaths the rate of fatality goes down.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:24 AM (ZCEU2)

991 Skip, you are actually closer to correct numbers - "In 2014, an estimated 926,200 abortions were performed in the United States, 12% fewer than in 2011".

From the Guttmacher Institute report published in 2017:
https://tinyurl.com/yau64a2y

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:25 AM (OuZMr)

992 Looks like scattered showeres today, it rained all day yesterday here.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:27 AM (ZCEU2)

993 Hey, MLiI. Yep, storms passed without incident.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 29, 2020 05:28 AM (Dhht7)

994 Teresa I keep hearing abortions are down from the past, saw that number the other day on a blog article of course no idea where they got it.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:29 AM (ZCEU2)

995 The Bloody Mary video is a hoot.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 29, 2020 05:31 AM (Dhht7)

996 Good to hear no damage. Nothing severe here, just rain. Supposed to be rainy again today. No complaints, rather have that than snow!

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 05:31 AM (Z/jzm)

997 point taken. i dont think i called anyone a non technical fuckwit until they tried to to impress me with how they knew more about scripting to read csv files than everyone else on this page. i read that as more of a hit on everyone else than an endorsement of the credentials of the dude/tte who claimed he/she could do it.

but yeah, im going to bed. it's a high stress time for everyone. i would like to re-emphasize that anyone who is interested in the skeptical end of a covid bet around here, i am likely to take.

and for all the flexing among the late night commenters here, no one took me up on it.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 05:32 AM (CG0BS)

998 Did get rid of all the pine logs I had cut up yesterday. Need to start on next tree, have 3 dead pines.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:32 AM (ZCEU2)

999 If you want a reasonable discussion, don't post drunk, and for fuck's sake don't drop credentials and tell us all what illiterate, innumerate, non-technical fuckwits we are.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:23 AM (rCwaK)

--publius FTW

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 05:33 AM (oZuI0)

1000 1K

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:33 AM (ZCEU2)

1001 and for all the flexing among the late night commenters here, no one took me up on it.
Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 05:32 AM (CG0BS)

--Because it's not worth the time, dipshit.

Just skulk off.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 05:35 AM (oZuI0)

1002 ASTI, you may be right about your estimates - there is still so much that we don't know about all of this. CV19 is certainly scary in the sweetest of cases, and there isn't any way to know just who is going to be one of those severe ones.

We are in uncharted territory here in terms of both disease and government response. Everyone is on edge due to not knowing quite how we should be handling this.

I don't think that anyone wants to see people dying horrible deaths, but at the same time there is concern for those who are having their entire livelihoods threatened, especially given that things were starting to pick back up economically.

It's the uncertainty of it all that has everyone stirred up.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:35 AM (OuZMr)

1003 See if it stands though.
Odd thing to me was couple weeks oatmeal and Cream of Wheat were all bought up by the scavengers. Did finally find a Cream of Wheat yesterday but still no oatmeal. Just started on a big tub so will last a couple weeks.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:36 AM (ZCEU2)

1004 "Extremist", not "sweetest"....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:38 AM (OuZMr)

1005 Check that - "severist" of cases.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:39 AM (OuZMr)

1006 >> The Bloody Mary video is a hoot.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 29, 2020 05:31 AM (Dhht7)

Charlie Behrens is a WI treasure!

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 29, 2020 05:40 AM (Z/jzm)

1007 Lives ruined financially can lead to death as sure as a disease.
It won't surpise me if the unemployment numbers double this week to 6 million.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:41 AM (ZCEU2)

1008 Did get rid of all the pine logs I had cut up yesterday. Need to start on next tree, have 3 dead pines.
Posted by: Skip

Did the virus get 'em ?

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 05:42 AM (arJlL)

1009 Bloody Mary is the girl I love
Bloody Mary is the girl I love
Now ain't that too damn bad

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:43 AM (ZCEU2)

1010 Ladies, pay no attention to the demi-troll.

Despite what it purports, if your tits go past your belly, you are not fat.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 05:44 AM (oZuI0)

1011 I wish I knew what is killing off pine trees here.

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 05:44 AM (ZCEU2)

1012

If you're still here, here's a little paper to read, from some Oxford epidemologists who call into question the apocalyptic modelling:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ublbmvx

Their argument (and they fit it to standard SIR models), is the world is far more along the infection curve than thought, because Covid-19 was circulating far earlier than thought.

They make the case that's it's likely were are far more along the herd immunity curve than thought.

ANd yes, they could be wrong.

And finally, I'll remind the distinguished professor of mechanical engineering that he was indeed the first to crack about how non-technical we were because of a joke about CSV files.

I then stooped to his level. There is nothing like credentialism that makes me stoop to levels.

ANd I further remind the distinguished professor that his credentials are not in epidemiology or infectious disease, and thus he's a big a layman as we all are here on the subject. Well, most of us.

So, doctor, you're a non-technical fuckwit on the subject as much as the rest of us are.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:46 AM (rCwaK)

1013 Dunning - Krueger effect.

Posted by: JAS at March 29, 2020 05:48 AM (2BZBZ)

1014 Is there any reason not to suspect the shelter at home orders/requests in NYC is what caused the explosion of hospitalizations there? Is it just a coincidence that they started keeping people at home a week before cases started showing up to the hospitals? Makes me think the simple behavior change of people staying in day, all day, with their housemates caused a jump in infections of those stuck with the small number of those dealing with mild symptoms. Data looking at the hopitalization rates in various countries and whether they issued stay at home requests would suss out any correlation. It can't be a coincidence that ALL of these countries saw jumps in serious cases 10 days after shelter at home requests.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 05:49 AM (zqs/f)

1015 I wish I knew what is killing off pine trees here.
Posted by: Skip

There's gotta be a website !

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2020 05:50 AM (arJlL)

1016 'Put the palms of both your hands on the hood of the car, spread your legs apart.'

-oldtime social distancing

Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2020 05:54 AM (XhWtx)

1017 So, doctor, you're a non-technical fuckwit on the subject as much as the rest of us are.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:46 AM (rCwaK)

--Thank you, publius.

And I mean, come on, someone who calls Nigella fat in that vid is either a catty bitch like a member of the Scrunt Squad, or a total faggot (NTTAWWT).

A moron, and not in the good sense.

Now thanks to Nigella, I want to hook up with some rye flour. . . .

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 05:55 AM (oZuI0)

1018 nice. ive read that paper. it makes me hopeful, but the opening line: "Our overall approach rests on the assumption that only a very small proportion of the
population is at risk of hospitalisable illness." does not.

Seems like a pretty questionable assumption?

I'm sorry if I was the initial aggressor. I took your joke as an attempt to discredit. Like I said I deeply regret mentioning any degrees. Though, since you used your next ** number of posts to quiz me on coding knowledge, it seems like you could have trusted my claim and avoided that nonsense at least.

Posted by: ashamed to say it at March 29, 2020 05:56 AM (CG0BS)

1019 It can't be a coincidence that ALL of these countries saw jumps in serious cases 10 days after shelter at home requests.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 05:49 AM (zqs/f)


Well, if most of those who got ill were already infected by the time that SIP was ordered, it actually isn't much of a coincidence.

Those SIL orders would have been issued after a certain number of cases had been seen, but there would be a reasonable expectation of those numbers rising after that.

The SIL is to try and reduce future numbers being too high.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:57 AM (OuZMr)

1020 >> nd I mean, come on, someone who calls Nigella fat

Pssst. That is most likely the poster previously known as Yankeefith. The fat thing confirms it just about. He had this schtick of calling any babe with a BMI greater than Karen Carpenter fat just to start shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:58 AM (rCwaK)

1021 Let's all pray for our first responders, those poor bastards who can't socially distance themselves or shelter in place or self quarantine.

Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2020 05:59 AM (XhWtx)

1022 Stupid autocorrect.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:00 AM (OuZMr)

1023 Last call for comments

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:00 AM (ZCEU2)

1024 Nood.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 06:03 AM (OuZMr)

1025 Pssst. That is most likely the poster previously known as Yankeefith. The fat thing confirms it just about. He had this schtick of calling any babe with a BMI greater than Karen Carpenter fat just to start shit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 05:58 AM (rCwaK)

--Wow, really?

I liked most of Y5 comments.

I sincerely hope he's not that sick of a puppy.

Any non-sociopathic heterosexual male would love to come home after work and see Nigella waiting and cooking for him.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2020 06:04 AM (oZuI0)

1026 >> Seems like a pretty questionable assumption?

I take that to mean total percentage of population at risk of hospitalization from Covid-19 in particular, not in general.

What he shows is that, depending on that number, we can be at very different points on the curve. If the number is very low, then we are well along the curve before we start seeing large numbers. If the number is high, then were are near the beginning and things are going to get much worse.

The way to answer this is accurate random testing of the general population, with antibody tests to determine what fraction of the population has truly been exposed.

That will tell us where we are. And that capability is getting ramped up.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 06:07 AM (rCwaK)

1027 >> I sincerely hope he's not that sick of a puppy.

I doubt it, he just likes to stir shit and start arguments and fights. It's how he has fun or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 29, 2020 06:09 AM (rCwaK)

1028 Its a wrap then, shut it down

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2020 06:11 AM (ZCEU2)

1029 Those SIL orders would have been issued after a certain number of cases had been seen, but there would be a reasonable expectation of those numbers rising after that.

The SIL is to try and reduce future numbers being too high.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 29, 2020 05:57 AM (OuZMr)

Well, then they didn't issue the orders early enough. Theoretically, if you issue them at the right time, all active cases will expire and your area will be set to zero carriers after 15 days.

Yeah, but eventually 100% of people stuck with

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 29, 2020 06:12 AM (zqs/f)

1030 Finding a husband 1958

80. Talk to his father about business and agree that taxes are too high!

2020 That will eliminate the SJW Special Snowflakes.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at March 29, 2020 06:16 AM (EMi53)

1031 Just a shout out to Trish Regan, as Fox (now less foxy) goes the way of NR and Drudge. FNC will soon need a respirator...

Posted by: MarjBaldwin at March 29, 2020 08:49 AM (C3tIt)

1032 Book to read, Damn the Pressure, Full Speed Ahead. An autobiography written by a friend of mine, Tom Pado. He patented one of his many inventions, an underwater exploration submarine. Went from a poor childhood near the steel mills in Gary, Indiana, to living large for 30 years in Australia. Available on Amazon.

Posted by: AgathaPagatha at March 29, 2020 11:12 AM (xDMjB)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 03-28-2020 [Hosted By: Moviegique]

The original premise of '70s TV impresario Gene Levitt's "Fantasy Island" was something akin to "be careful what you wish for", and there was a distinct horror element to the TV pilot which I believe was greatly watered down in favor of comedy, romance, campy drama in the vein of—well, let's just say it was a place where "The Love Boat" could (and did!) stop over. So while the idea of a remake of the show sounds like a dystopian nightmare of creative bankruptcy, it didn't have to be. And a horror-based remake was right up my alley. On the other hand, the buzz was less than compelling.

fantasy island 01.jpg
Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.

So, I went to see it at a time I knew pretty well I was going to end up being interrupted, and indeed I was, about halfway into the film.

The first half doesn't suck. Blumhouse usually spends some time developing characters so that you care when they're gored through the eye with a dessert fork, and this is no exception. Our guests on the titular island are two bros who want to "have it all", a middle-aged woman who regrets having said "no" to her dream marriage proposal, a young man who wanted be a soldier but promised his mother he wouldn't, and a young lady who wants revenge on a high-school bully. Except for the last character, they're all pretty likable.

Before I go on, I should point out the White Elephant in the room: Michael Peña as Mr. Roarke. Peña is a fine actor who does a fine job but he is no Ricardo Montalban. He might be a better actor, actually, than Montalban, I don't really know. But Montalban essentially created the Corinthian leather industry (with apologies to Corinth and Bozell Advertising) from raw charisma. And the thing about Mr. Raorke is he looked good. His '70s era white disco-leisure suit was always neat and perfect. Improbably so given the humidity on the sorts of islands we're talking about.

Peña looks like an alcoholic who threw on the summer clothes of the island's former dictator. The only time I really winced in this movie was looking at him shuffle around like a 21st century man in his rumpled linens. Now, this is all in-character, actually: Peña is on edge throughout the film, he is not playing Montalban's Raorke, who was an angelic figure and part of the story hinges on that. But for me it felt like the collapse of Western Civilization.

OK, I'm being a bit dramatic. And if you don't have any memories of the original show, you might not even notice. I didn't care for it. But more on disastrously diverging from the original later.


fantasy island 02.jpg
He looks like he slept in that outfit.

Anyway, our two bros get their "all", which basically involves drugs, scantily clad models and a nice beach house. This fits in with the original show pretty well. There was always some side-character who made a very simple wish and got it and was happy. But with revenge girl, Melanie, things get weird: She's torturing her high school bully and quickly comes to realize, it's not a hologram and she's actually torturing someone, which wasn't what she thought. (None of the four parties take the island very seriously at first.) So she ends up rescuing her putative victim and the two run through the jungle trying to evade Melanie's former therapist, who is somehow now a monster. (Roll with it.)

The other two stories present a more intriguing problem. Up till now, everything has been essentially possible, but now we come to Gwen, who regrets her past, and Patrick, who wants to be a soldier. For Gwen, she literally goes back in time so she can accept the marriage proposal (or so it seems). Patrick ends up in Central America in 1989 with his father on the rescue mission where his father lost his life. (This is why he wanted to be a soldier and why his mother wanted him not to be.) But this '89 mission hears the noise from Melanie escaping, so...what the heck is going on?

Pause for intermission. This is where I left, but I was intrigued enough to wander back in and finish watching it later. (With AMC stubs, the ticket doesn't cost anything.)

In the intermission, I'm going to point out two things: First, this is a seriously United Colors of Benetton movie. The two bros are a older white guy (Ryan Hansen, Friday the 13th 2009) and his much younger Asian brother (Jimmy O. Yang, Patriot's Day). Oh, and the Asian kid is gay. Gwen is played by the lovely Maggie Q (Live Free or Die Hard, Mission:Impossible 3) and the man she jilted is a black man (Robbie Jones) in the mold of what Richard Meyer (of Comics Matter w/yaboi Zack) would call a Gordon Goodbrother. Roarke's assistant is half-Jamaican. Etc.

Let me say that if you need—if you're compelled—to be diverse, this is the way to do it. Maybe don't put the diversity into ancient stories or historical tales—and when you do have the diversity, try to make the characters likable and deeper than their demographic checkpoints. (A movie has an advantage over a comic books, as yaboi would point out, because people have charisma and drawings don't.)

So, while I rolled my eyes a bit, it didn't grate in the way, oh, a mixed-race couple on the subway during WWII might.


fantasy island 03.jpg
This is the whitest shot in the movie, especially if you count Asians as white.

Second, the reason the "Fantasy Island" series worked (to the extent that it worked) is that there wasn't really an explanation for anything. At one point, I believe Mr. Roarke is shown to be something like an angel, and this is shown by him engaging in magical combat with Mephistopheles (Roddy McDowall). The rules, if there were any, were loosely defined at best.

Which brings us to the second half of this movie.

Gwen gets to say "yes" to her lover and wakes up on current day Fantasy Island with him, a young child, and five years worth of memories. Patrick convinces his father that he's really his son and he's really going to die on this mission, at which point the father's like "Let's get the hell outta here, then!" making Patrick feel like his father's a coward. Meanwhile, the Bros discover that the house they were partying in used to belong to a drug kingpin when the kingpin's enemies invade the house (and all the models lock the bros out of the panic room).

And Melanie and her companion end up encountering a crazed Michael Rooker, who's a detective investigating the island. He's discovered the fantasies are all powered by a magical alien rock buried in a cave. (One of the characters says it's "ancient", but I never could figure out how anyone would know that.)

But Gwen's story seems to be the pivotal one: She made her wrong choice all those years ago because she felt guilty. And if she'd known that the island was real she would've had a different fantasy.

Now, here's how the movie could've ended: She could've corrected her past mistake, in a story which tied in all the other characters, who also have learned a lot on their little stay, the end. But this is a Blumhouse movie, so we gotta have a horror twist and things gotta go weirder, even at the expense of any coherency.

All the characters are tied together by this mistake, and it turns out they're in someone else's fantasy (this is actually in the trailer), which is revenge on all of them. So they go hunt the magic rock down to kill it.


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This is not them killing the rock but it's as good anything I can find.

Of course, this whole plot negates most of the rest of the movie. Like, did they ever really get their fantasies, or was it all alien rock magic? Because at some point