Sunday Gun Thread: Striker-Fire Edition (With Additional Fashion Content)

HK VP9.jpg

I'm in the market for a 9mm pistol, because the only one I have is a surplus Astra 600, which is a horrorshow of ergonomics, and to top it off has a miserable kick.

And I am intrigued by the new generation of striker-fired pistols, in particular the H&K VP9, which fits my hand really nicely. I am not so thrilled with the lack of a decocker, which to me seems weird. The H&K USP I have has a great decocker that is in the perfect position to make decocking effortless and intuitive. That means I can fire, decock and reholster safely. How does one do that with the striker-fired pistols?

Regardless, many of them were nice, although I was expecting to like the Sig P320, but hated it! It has a weird ledge for the thumb that made it uncomfortable for me.

Below the fold is another pistol that piqued my interest, although I have to find a gun store that has one.

CZ 10P C.jpg

Why are most .22 pistols designed with 10 round magazines? That's really obnoxious. I have a Colt .22 from the mid-1990s, and it is loads of fun to shoot, but man oh man, I hate loading those magazines. There is a ton of room in the butt, so that can't be the issue. Is it the difficulty of stacking .22 rounds, or a relic of competition, or aliens?

colt 22 with mag.jpg

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Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt or lodged between their shooting glasses and their nose or temple or brow?

I have a nice little burn on my chest from a .40S&W cartridge that got past my zipped up sweater! The worst part by far was having to stand there, feeling it burn and smelling the sizzle of burned flesh while I decocked the pistol and placed it on the bench, ....(not really, but it hurt).

Down the shirt

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Audrey.jpg

Posted by: CBD at 06:30 PM




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1 First on the gun thread?

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (dUJdY)

2 lmao!!! Three times this week. Damn.. I'm good. Now ya'll go on and talk about yer guns. My work here is done.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 06:28 PM (dUJdY)

3 dress thread!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 06:28 PM (hMwEB)

4 Okay wait.. Audrey.. maybe I will stick around.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 06:29 PM (dUJdY)

5 Gun dress thread?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:29 PM (aC6Sd)

6 Try the Beretta PX4 either subcompact or regular.

Posted by: Captain Mongo at January 21, 2018 06:29 PM (VJIV4)

7 Looks like a fertile field.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 06:30 PM (jeefx)

8 Top ten Glock

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 06:30 PM (R5lpX)

9 The wife and I finally got the RM380 we got on Black Friday out to the range for a few rounds.

Yeah, not great, but it only cost $119.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 06:30 PM (oVJmc)

10 This Tuesday I will pick up my first striker pistol. A Springfield XD(m) in .45acp.

Specifically, this deal:

https://grabagun.com/springfield-94.html

I like that it has the grip safety, but I will still miss an external safety, I think.

We shall see.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:31 PM (WbIyz)

11 Some reason not a fan of the 'looks' of these new pistols, someghing nice and clean about a 1911

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:31 PM (aC6Sd)

12 http://bit.ly/2Dpb5Dk

Wait...What? Loretta Lynch Already Knew Comey Would Let Hillary Go Free When Announcing She Would Accept FBI's Conclusion

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 21, 2018 06:31 PM (y3aQB)

13 no updates on the ammo lawsuit here in #Failifornia...

i have suggested to my source that they inquire as to what is going on and what is next for them personally

we shall see.

meanwhile, they are still contesting the 10 round mag limit, which, if they win, might kill such stupidity nationwide.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:31 PM (xsabZ)

14 Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt or lodged between their shooting glasses and their nose or temple or brow?

Once. I had a piece of hot brass bounce off the side wall of the shooting station, over my glasses, and lodge against the top of my cheek. Nice little sizzle. After that day I always wore a cap.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:31 PM (NWiLs)

15 Rimmed cartridges do not double stack well at all.

figure it out and make million$.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 21, 2018 06:32 PM (Eu5eZ)

16 You have a right hand and a wrong hand. Hold the gun in your right hand and you will not get ' brass in your bra'.

Posted by: OldGrunt at January 21, 2018 06:32 PM (q70zf)

17 So, what is the maximum number of .22 rounds you could fit into a standard handgun like the Glock 19?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:32 PM (MTjB1)

18 The wife and I finally got the RM380 we got on Black Friday out to the range for a few rounds.


Mine sounds like a firecracker. I wouldn't be scared to pop off a few rounds without ear protection but then, I'm already old and deaf.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:32 PM (WbIyz)

19 Why are most .22 pistols designed with 10 round magazines?

No Honest Man.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 21, 2018 06:33 PM (y87Qq)

20 There is certainly no shortage of good striker-fired 9mm pistols these days. It all comes down to what's in line with your own particular idiom.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

21 I like my Glock 26 and my wife has the G23. I like the G26 ok, but it's still not the pistol my S and W model 5906 is. The model 59 has an external hammer so decocking is easy enough.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 06:34 PM (R5lpX)

22 "Once. I had a piece of hot brass bounce off the side
wall of the shooting station, over my glasses, and lodge against the
top of my cheek. Nice little sizzle. After that day I always wore a cap.


Posted by: Insomniac"

I had a piece of lead come back off the backstop at the range and land on my cheek. That left a nice little burn.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 21, 2018 06:35 PM (w+Jhj)

23 9mm pistol?

we lurve the Hi-Power here, must have 6 of them, at least...

she also has the Glock she bought as her first gun after we were an item.

it's the bedside gun so that, if it has to be used, the LAPD only gets a Glock to mistreat or lose, not a good gun. same reason i use an Auto Ordnance 1911 when circumstances indicate i should have a gub handy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:36 PM (xsabZ)

24 I had a piece of lead come back off the backstop at the range and land on my cheek. That left a nice little burn.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 21, 2018 06:35 PM (w+Jhj)

Stings, don't it?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:36 PM (NWiLs)

25 Buy a Glock. Your choice of size. Don't worry about decocking. No hammer is the way to go. No chance for a defense lawyer to argue that you had opportunity to de-escalate intent.

Posted by: The Guy at January 21, 2018 06:36 PM (Kq/OY)

26 CBD wears a shooting bra?

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 06:37 PM (Sfs6o)

27 Want a hi-cap .22? Get a FN Five-Seven. Yes, it's not rimfire.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 21, 2018 06:37 PM (w+Jhj)

28 The mansiere.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (WbIyz)

29 Moar Fashion!

Posted by: ALH at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (7DwnJ)

30 Sounds like a fan boy which I'm not, but I see no reason for me to buy anything but a Glock. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (2DOZq)

31 Lindsey Graham slams Stephen Miller, says "White House staff has been pretty unreliable"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 06:39 PM (6FqZa)

32 I had only two pistols with de-cockers before the canoe accident: a Sig P229 and a S&W Tactical. My EDCs are striker-fired so de-cocking doesn't enter into the equation for me.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:39 PM (NWiLs)

33
One of the reasons I chose the striker-fired Kahr CW9 as my carry gun is that it has a really sweet DAO trigger. I didn't like the idea of the standard Glock-style thing of a single-action trigger with the safety built into the trigger pad. At least, not for a carry gun that I'll be carrying in an IWB holster.

The DAO trigger simply makes me feel more secure. And it's smooth enough that it's a joy to shoot.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 21, 2018 06:39 PM (eXA4G)

34 Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt?

I was at the range with a fellow conservative woman, but much older than me, and my buddy, the Range Safety Officer. The woman liked to flirt, but was otherwise a good person.

My buddy was a great guy with a sterling character. As the woman was firing she had a shell go into her shirt, evidently next to her bra. She asked the RSO for help getting it out. Ever-accomidated he started to say yes, then remembered he was soundly married.

"Uh, you can get it out; we will look the other way." She teased both of us for the rest of the shoot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 06:40 PM (hyuyC)

35 After much trials, I've determined that I don't like striker fired pistols. Just can't stand the triggers. Sproing! Sproing! Sproing! Blech.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 21, 2018 06:41 PM (w+Jhj)

36 I have had the hot brass land between my glasses and brow before, it definitely got my attention.

Posted by: pontiacdoug at January 21, 2018 06:41 PM (otbbm)

37 Sounds like a fan boy which I'm not, but I see no reason for me to buy anything but a Glock. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (2DOZq)

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I never liked the way Glocks fit in my hand. I found Springfields and never looked back.

Posted by: Speed Racer at January 21, 2018 06:41 PM (j/7lG)

38 Do you need to wear safety glasses at the range?

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 06:41 PM (nKPgU)

39 I can't see how these safety triggers are any safer except at the very margins. If something hooks the trigger, won't it hook the safety as well?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:41 PM (WbIyz)

40 I never liked the way Glocks fit in my hand. I found Springfields and never looked back.
Posted by: Speed Racer at January




well, so long as your gun is reliable enough the fit is what is most important.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:42 PM (MTjB1)

41 Lindsey Graham slams Stephen Miller, says "White House staff has been pretty unreliable"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 06:39 PM (6FqZa)

Mrs Lindsey should go hold McShit's hands as he passes to the other side. What a scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 06:42 PM (SjImc)

42 Why are most .22 pistols designed with 10 round magazines? >>>

Metric system?



re 9mm pistols: It's pricey, but I love my Sig 229. Reliable. Fits my hand extremely well. I have Hogue rubber grips on it and love them. I also have a Sig 226 but I don't like it as much - does not feel as good in my hand, even though I have large hands.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 06:42 PM (AMIL/)

43 30 Sounds like a fan boy which I'm not, but I see no reason for me to buy anything but a Glock. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (2DOZq)

Nothing wrong with Glock. Not a "fanboi" either but I don't understand the hate from some segments of the gun-owning community.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:42 PM (NWiLs)

44 Apparently someone moron around here put south Austin into a panic yesterday evening. Some guys were shooting targets of tannerite and caused a YUGE boom. Shook houses and the earth moved for miles around. People freaked out and called 911, there were helicopters and various police and fire departments deployed to figure it out. People were scared and want something done about it...right now!!! Said that they should be charged for all the trouble they caused because you'd be charged if you needed an ambulance, right?!? Well sugartits, they didn't call the police and fire department, they didn't need them. You called them, apparently you needed them so maybe you should be charged. I'm still laughing. New People around here still freak out if they hear gun fire, well, you're on the edge of the country and people are allowed to shoot on their property within certain parameters.....

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (kufk0)

45 How does one do that with the striker-fired pistols?

You don't.

De-cockers are on hammer fired pistols (there may be some exceptions, but I am unaware of any).

Striker fired usually means the stricker is about 80% cocked by the slide. The rest of the striker spring compression is by trigger pull. So, it's like a lightweight double action.

Some striker fired pistols have a thumb safety in addition to a trigger safety (e.g. Ruger SR, S&W M&P). Others (Glock, XD) have just the trigger safety.

You can't de-cock a striker action, because the striker will be all the way forward and be in contact with the primer if it were de-cocked.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (di1hb)

46 I shoot right handed guns with my left hand, so I spend a bit of effort making sure I am safe.

Not cravat-gay safe, but buttoned shirt and high collar safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (hyuyC)

47 A semiauto not designed by Browning does not interest me. The beauty of a 357 or 44 revolver is after you are empty you are holding a fine bludgeon. YMMV. I see no need for a 22LR handgun, the cartiridge belongs in a rifle where it can be an all around cartiridge.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (C8LGv)

48 CZ P10C is my want for full size striker fired. Glad CZ got into the striker fired game.

Trigger said to be even smoother and reminiscent of the Walther PPQ

To boot, it fits all Glock 19 holsters.

Posted by: Oedipus at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (CXLVd)

49 You should wear safety glasses and ear protection

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:44 PM (aC6Sd)

50
CBD wears a shooting bra?

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 06:37 PM (Sfs6o)

B cup.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:44 PM (wYseH)

51 not quite the same things as a cartridge case coming back at you...

this is no shit: we were at Camp Roberts (Club Bob) for the state GPMG matches, and were down in the pits doing our turn at scoring.

for the match at the time, you would hoist 3 6x5 targets, leave an empty firing point, than 3 more, etc...

traditionally, with rifles, people would sit right under their targets, but i decided that discretion was the better part of valor, and suggested we sit under the space.

i've never been in combat, but sitting a few hundred meters down range from several machine guns all firing at once is a tad disconcerting, even if you are under cover.

but not as disconcerting as the one round that hit the berm, deflected down, then passed through the metal shield and struck the vertical support for one of our targets, penetrating all the way through it.

we ran a line of pasters between the two holes, and it would have hit whomever might have been unlucky enough to have been sitting there.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:45 PM (xsabZ)

52 You can't de-cock a striker action, because the
striker will be all the way forward and be in contact with the primer if
it were de-cocked.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (di1hb)

So there is no spring tension on the firing pin, and the only force exerted is from the trigger pull?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:46 PM (wYseH)

53 50
CBD wears a shooting bra?

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 06:37 PM (Sfs6o)

B cup.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:44 PM (wYseH)
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Well we won't judge at WeaselRange!

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 06:46 PM (Sfs6o)

54 because the striker will be all the way forward and be in contact with the primer if it were de-cocked.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:43 PM (di1hb)
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is that a bad thing?

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:46 PM (xsabZ)

55 Yeah gun thread! Thank you!

Yes, I have experienced the hot brass between the inside of my glasses and my face, and down my shirt. Didn't have a bench in front of me, but, mindful of the armed ROs behind me, I kept the pistol pointed downrange while extricating the offending brass. Took way too long. If I was a lady I would definitely choose my shooting clothes to avoid that, boy howdy . . .

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (4IjGx)

56 re: 22 pistol mags

Keep in mind the 22 LR is a rimmed cartridge. Those don't feed well from a staggered box mag. Needs to be single stack. Typical pistol grip length gets you 10 rds or so

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (di1hb)

57
What's with the comment boxes looking different?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (0zeTt)

58 The VP9 is really nice; one of my friends has one that's his daily carry. I'm looking at getting a Sig2022 to replace the Beretta M9 I sold to a different friend. That's only because I like having a hammer, though.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (yzxic)

59 Did Audrey Hepburn ever use a gun in any of her movies?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:49 PM (eMKNe)

60 Weasel, you've got mail

Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2018 06:49 PM (nJ+XP)

61 59 Did Audrey Hepburn ever use a gun in any of her movies?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:49 PM (eMKNe)

Massacre at Tiffany's

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:49 PM (NWiLs)

62 What's with the comment boxes looking different?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (0zeTt)

Why did you take the brown acid?

We told you not to take the brown acid!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (wYseH)

63 Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt or lodged between their shooting glasses and their nose or temple or brow?

40 cal? Pfft.

Try 50 cal or 20mm sometime. Your shit gets cooked!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (di1hb)

64 I had a PK380 that had major ejection issues (not to mention the FTL problem). It used to eject the casings straight back onto my shoulder. Once, it shot one back towards my ear and the fucker got caught around my temple. Not good.


I no longer have that pistol. I didn't like the weight of it anyway. Replaced it with a Ruger 1911 that I love.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (/o9Qk)

65 Insomniac, of course :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (eMKNe)

66 59. Maybe Charade

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (nKPgU)

67 Trigger pull foot pounds.... a cocked andlocked Browning design has about 3 pounds once the safety is off, a cocked revolver about the same or less. That is what I want.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (C8LGv)

68 Would be funny to see Mitch McConnell wear that collar.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 06:51 PM (/qEW2)

69 My wife got one down the blouse once. She still goes on about it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 06:51 PM (oVJmc)

70 Typical pistol grip length gets you 10 rds or so

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (di1hb)

Yeah, but I figured somebody would design a serpentine magazine or something to add a few more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:51 PM (wYseH)

71 Nagant M1895 revolver.....makes you practice your trigger press with every shot and practice reloading very slowly.

Loading gate FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 06:53 PM (EoRCO)

72 I've had a cartridge almost get stuck in my clevage...almost. Luckily a quick twitch of my shirt dislodged it.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 06:53 PM (kufk0)

73 Moar Fashion!

Posted by: ALH at January 21, 2018 06:38 PM (7DwnJ)

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turn to the left and ye shall receive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptc5EcJdb9w

Posted by: zombie David Bowie at January 21, 2018 06:53 PM (xsabZ)

74 70 Typical pistol grip length gets you 10 rds or so

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (di1hb)

Yeah, but I figured somebody would design a serpentine magazine or something to add a few more.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:51 PM (wYseH)

There are extended magazines for .22 rifles but I don't think I've seen one for pistol that I can recall.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:53 PM (NWiLs)

75 27 Want a hi-cap .22? Get a FN Five-Seven. Yes, it's not rimfire.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

The price of the ammo is ridiculous.

Posted by: Guzalot at January 21, 2018 06:54 PM (schB/)

76 Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2018 06:49 PM (nJ+XP)
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Got it! Thanks Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 06:54 PM (Sfs6o)

77 Yay! Gun thread!

Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt or lodged between their shooting glasses and their nose or temple or brow?

Shooting in boat shoes one day ( I know, dumb). Brass managed to wedge itself between the tongue and my foot. Left a nice .22 sized blister. That stung a bit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2018 06:54 PM (agg2m)

78 Lindsey Graham slams Stephen Miller, says "White House staff has been pretty unreliable"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 06:39 PM (6FqZa)
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translated: "they won't fall for all the tricks we've used in the past!"

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:55 PM (xsabZ)

79 Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:53 PM (NWiLs)

This America! Some redneck has probably taped two 10 round mags together with duct tape and made it work somehow.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:55 PM (2DOZq)

80 Got a couple brass in my shirt one time, it was at an outdoor range and I had wife beater on, tucked in. The brass went down to the bottom of my back.
I won't wear that again.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 21, 2018 06:55 PM (w7KSn)

81 >> Massacre at Tiffany's

Holly Drawlightly was the character, IIRC.

And that movie is not to be confused with Massacre at Miss Tiffany's: Ladyboys' Revenge.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 06:55 PM (8O3HH)

82 American-180 Full Auto 22lr Submachine Gun AM-180 275 Round Drum Mag

http://bit.ly/2n0X2NZ

A longer Forgotten Weapons take

http://bit.ly/2mZfXc4



I want.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:56 PM (WbIyz)

83 publius, it was a classic!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:57 PM (eMKNe)

84 I just assumed that most 22lr magazines for handguns stopped at 10 rounds because that is what fit in the grip. Ruger makes a 25 round mag for the 10-22 rifle so I suppose something could be done for a pistol. But maybe the bigger mag screws up the balance and certainly would make carrying difficult at best.

Just guessing here.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 06:57 PM (V+03K)

85
OH I know what happened!

I must have inadvertently embiggened the page (ctrl +) one click.

It thickened the borders.

Try it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:57 PM (0zeTt)

86 What's with the comment boxes looking different?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (0zeTt)
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yer s*ber?

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:58 PM (xsabZ)

87 @34
he was soundly married.

- soundly beaten.
- soundly thrashed.
- soundly defeated
- soundly married.

Posted by: mag exchange at January 21, 2018 06:58 PM (/CGzl)

88 "Excuse me Miss Drawlightly, you have a run in your stocking"

*BLAM*BLAM*BLAM*BLAM*

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:58 PM (eMKNe)

89 Watching Apocalypse: WW I

The timing of that war could not have been any worse in regard to tactics and new technology. Holy crap what a recipe for a massacre.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:59 PM (2DOZq)

90 Ooh, guns. I'm in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 07:00 PM (xJa6I)

91 Lindsey Graham slams Stephen Miller

Oooh. Please, go on.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at January 21, 2018 07:00 PM (/CGzl)

92 B cup.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 06:44 PM


What a coincidence. Me, too!

Posted by: Megyn at January 21, 2018 07:01 PM (DMUuz)

93 Anyone ever get a hot cartridge down their shirt or lodged between their shooting glasses and their nose or temple or brow?

++++

Are you a lefty shooting a righty pistol? Get a left-handed gun that ejects cartridges to the left and away from you. Since most guns are built for us righties, finding a left-handed one can be a challenge, but it's not my fault you are an evil lefty.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 21, 2018 07:01 PM (pvjTE)

94 88 ok that's funny

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 07:01 PM (nKPgU)

95 . Maybe Charade

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 06:50 PM (nKPgU)




Yes, there was a great gunfight between Audrey and Walter Matthau at the end. Brian Dennehy was brilliant (as usual) as Paris

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 07:01 PM (SiINZ)

96 "Lindsey Graham slams Stephen Miller"

Then he goes home and faps 'til he's bleeding...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (eMKNe)

97 Sig is releasing the P365, a sharp looking new striker fired pistol primarily designed for concealed carry. However, I prefer a trigger commonly found on smooth, double action revolvers think Kimberly KS6L). The new Bond Arms Bullpup 9 is an automatic that shoots like a DA revolver. Pricey, but a nice piece.

Posted by: WNinMN at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (pV4s0)

98

Audrey Hepburn with a gun

https://tinyurl.com/y7nzdy8y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (IqV8l)

99 kallisto, thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (eMKNe)

100 I am intrigued by the new generation of striker-fired pistols, in particular the HK VP9

Should you go this route, I think you'll be pleased.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Tyii7)

101 88. don't try to tell her the roots are showing

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (nKPgU)

102 I don't much like decockers except on DA/SA pistols. If you really feel you need one with a striker fired pistol, the Canik TP 9SA is a good one to check out. And they're currently around $300.

Striker fired pistols are always 'cocked' but have other safety mechanisms. Think of them as revolvers, only with a better trigger pulls, ergonomics, capacity...

The Glock Family, the Springfield XD family are the most reliable for me. The PPQ has the best trigger this side of a 2k 1911 but it's....a little finicky with ammo. I have a related story, coming shortly. But now....to read the comments.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

103 My 9mm has always been disappointing. It's a Star (Firestar) from Spain. I bought it sight unseen years ago, and the magazines are ostensibly 6, but I usually load no more than 4 because I will get a stovepipe feed. Some brands of 9mm rounds work better than others. All in all it's been really frustrating. I like the feel of it when it works, but it would be a horrible CCP weapon. I want a nice CCP handgun that doesn't suck.

The problem is that asking this question of the Horde will give me scores of differing answers.

And yet I hit post. (Lord help me)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (bNbo2)

104 I'm real old fashioned. I hate the black plastic guns. my CC favorite is a 2 inch SW 357 magnum 5 shot.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2018 07:05 PM (UThOJ)

105 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (bNbo2)

Concealed carry gun huh? Have you thought about the .50 Desert Eagle?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 07:05 PM (2DOZq)

106 With 25,339 murders in 2017, Mexico suffers record homicide tally...

There were 13,716 homicides in the United States in 2013,

Yeah, we need more gun control

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 07:05 PM (+y/Ru)

107 OT:

Hey! I was watching the half season finale of The Walking Dead.

Who here thinks Ca-a-a-a-a-a-arrrrrrrrl was bitten by a zombie?

I don't.

I think he had the Middle Eastern descent guy bite his belly so he could bring him into camp under "emergency conditions"

thus getting around Rick's objection to that idea.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 07:06 PM (9q7Dl)

108 I only have to hit once with the .357. You 9 MM guys have to empty the fucking magazine.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2018 07:07 PM (UThOJ)

109
Sock removal ceremony.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 07:08 PM (SFHlC)

110 I did get hot brass down my shirt just yesterday. Finished the magazine and then checked for burns.

Yep. One.

Once got a spent casing lodged between my safety glasses and my temple somehow. Also ow.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 07:08 PM (xJa6I)

111 I was thinking about selling my Mosin Nagant 91/30 just because I don't have time to fire all my guns as it is. Better to concentrate on a few I told myself. Then I remembered the barrel slugged out at .308. Ideal for the cast bullet loads I like to develop for military surplus bolt rifles. So I talked myself out of it.

Phew! That was close.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 07:08 PM (V+03K)

112 Damn she was beautiful.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2018 07:08 PM (0tfLf)

113 I think he had the Middle Eastern descent guy bite his belly so he could bring him into camp under "emergency conditions"




Clearly, television, which I have not watched for years, has changed significantly.

Posted by: mag exchange at January 21, 2018 07:09 PM (BLjCA)

114 Freaking Germans allowed the world to be infected with communism in their last ditch attempt to win WWI. I don't know who I blame the most for the world's problems. France or Germany?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 07:09 PM (2DOZq)

115 Audrey Hepburn with a gun

https://tinyurl.com/y7nzdy8y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (IqV8l)


I'm a good shot, I am

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 07:10 PM (SiINZ)

116 The problem is that asking this question of the Horde will give me scores of differing answers.


And yet I hit post. (Lord help me)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (bNbo2)

---
find the local ranges that rent handguns, then go try all the different flavors you can find. that might help you winnow the field down some.

asking here, or anywhere, gets you suggestions based on what w*rks for other people, not you. that can be useful, after a fashion, but nothing beats personal experience.

if you have friends with items you're considering, but that the ranges don't have, ask to meet them at the range, and tell them you'll bring the ammo.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 07:10 PM (xsabZ)

117 And yet I hit post. (Lord help me)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (bNbo2)

Sorry to hear Pug, I love my little FireStar.

Accurate and reliable. I think it won handgun of the year back in 1991.

But I like most all of the old Spanish pistols like Star and Astra.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 07:10 PM (EoRCO)

118 Back at Benning many, many years ago I had a 40mm round go off in the tube of my M203. Fortunately it was a training round and all it did was cover me in orange powder.
Guardian angel was watching out for me that day.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2018 07:10 PM (UThOJ)

119 Concealed carry gun huh? Have you thought about the .50 Desert Eagle?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 07:05 PM (2DOZq)

I ain't got a calf-length duster to wear around.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:12 PM (bNbo2)

120 Myself, I prefer a 38. User friendly, makes a big enough hole.

Posted by: ALH at January 21, 2018 07:12 PM (7DwnJ)

121 I only have to hit once with the .357. You 9 MM guys have to empty the fucking magazine.

Well, as the old saying sorta goes, I don't think I'd want to be the survivability test subject from a well-place round from a 9mm.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2018 07:12 PM (Tyii7)

122
Who here thinks Ca-a-a-a-a-a-arrrrrrrrl was bitten by a zombie?

Yeah, he's done.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 07:12 PM (0zeTt)

123 I bought a beretta apx in 9mm in November. It's growing on me. The trigger is nice.

Posted by: Usntakim at January 21, 2018 07:12 PM (0OmEj)

124
I don't know who I blame the most for the world's problems. France or Germany?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol


Someone (Margaret Thatcher?) said most of the world's problems are created by Europeans and solved by the British and Americans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 07:13 PM (SFHlC)

125
Clearly, television, which I have not watched for years, has changed significantly.

Posted by: mag exchange at January 21, 2018 07:09 PM (BLjCA)



Not really. TWD is a lot like "Father Knows Best"

only with zombies.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 07:13 PM (9q7Dl)

126
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:45 PM (xsabZ)





Pit story time.

Back in the mid-80s I was on my battalion rifle team and we were practicing at the known distance range along with the guys from the M60 teams. Several weeks of practice. We'd switch off in the pits half-day shooting, half-day pulling targets for the pig gunners. Which always sucked because they'd walk the rounds up, kicking stones and dirt into the pits.

After a couple of weeks of that, us rifle guys got froggy and one day we did our last course of fire ALL into the berm. To give them a taste of their own medicine. The thing is, we were shooting in the MORNING. When we traded places, we were giggling like schoolgirls. The pig gunners had evil Jack Nicholson grins on their faces.

First course of fire, they put about 100 rounds per gun into the berm, and we had a frickin' tsunami of dirt and rocks slamming down on us.

No one ever said infantry soldiers were smart.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (eXA4G)

127
Well, as the old saying sorta goes, I don't think I'd want to be the
survivability test subject from a well-place round from a 9mm.


Or to put it another way: "Please point to an acceptable location on your body for a 9mm hole."

Posted by: mag exchange at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (BLjCA)

128
Audrey Hepburn was (IMO, of course) the greatest female star. I don't mean the greatest actress, or the best this or that, I mean the whole package, the Hollywood leading lady glitz and glam package.

On the men's side it's a tie between Cary Grant and Bogart.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (8O3HH)

129 This is my safety.

Posted by: Hoot at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (SkuXa)

130 You might look at the VP9 Compact. I'd recommend the VP9 'police' pack (or whatever they call it, night sights and an extra mag for around a $100 upcharge.

CZ can be pretty sweet after they break in.

I've heard good things about the SW MP 2.0, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (DMUuz)

131 Sorry to hear Pug, I love my little FireStar.

Accurate and reliable. I think it won handgun of the year back in 1991.

But I like most all of the old Spanish pistols like Star and Astra.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 07:10 PM (EoRCO)

Could it be that I just need to get new magazines? It really seems that this is the problem, nothing to do with the gun itself.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:14 PM (bNbo2)

132 89 Watching Apocalypse: WW I

The timing of that war could not have been any worse in regard to tactics and new technology. Holy crap what a recipe for a massacre.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 06:59 PM (2DOZq) >>>

Everyone had good clues as to what could happen, from the US Civil War and the Russo-Japanese War. However, every army except the British were committed to an attack doctrine at the start, so defensive doctrine was not well developed, and they did not realize the defensive power of entrenched troops with many machine guns and on-call artillery via field phone communication. And the Franco-Prussian War gave the Germans and French a belief that (mostly) mobile warfare could and would happen.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 07:15 PM (AMIL/)

133 103 My 9mm has always been disappointing. It's a Star (Firestar) from Spain. I bought it sight unseen years ago, and the magazines are ostensibly 6, but I usually load no more than 4 because I will get a stovepipe feed. Some brands of 9mm rounds work better than others. All in all it's been really frustrating. I like the feel of it when it works, but it would be a horrible CCP weapon. I want a nice CCP handgun that doesn't suck.

The problem is that asking this question of the Horde will give me scores of differing answers.

And yet I hit post. (Lord help me)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 07:03 PM (bNbo2)

Single stack 9mm, Pug? Or are you open to double stacks?

Single stack drop-dead reliable pistols:

Combloc-
Makarov
Tokarev

45 ACP-
Glock 36
Springfield XDS

9mm-
Glock 43
Kahr K9 or P9
Walther PPS or Creed
Taurus 709 (Yes. Terrible trigger but will go bang every time)

380-
Ruger LCP 2
Kel-Tec P-3AT (yes, seriously)
Walther PP
Glock 42

If you can go up to a double stack, try a Glock 19. Hard to beat for size/weight/capacity. Similar guns are the above mentioned CZ p-10c, the Smith and Wesson M&P Compact version 2

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 07:15 PM (xJa6I)

134 Grump928(C) @ 10: wow, a Springfield XD at that price tempts me to depart from my rule of sticking with 1911s and SandW revolvers. Nice pistol, surprising price. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 21, 2018 07:15 PM (4IjGx)

135 Also...just bid on and won a Tanfoglio Witness in 45 ACP for $250 + tax, fees and transfer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 07:16 PM (xJa6I)

Food Thread: On A Wing And A Prayer

mustard chicken.jpg

Chicken is surprisingly resilient, and handles a wide range of cooking techniques that would destroy other meats. Low-and-slow works nicely, and surface-of-the-sun temperatures can be fantastic. But...there is nothing quite so disappointing as overcooked chicken. Yuck! I can eat overcooked beef, and in my opinion lamb cannot be overcooked; I'll eat the crispy burned end of a leg of lamb, and I'll do it every day and twice on Sundays!

So what to do about that? Well, take a close look at the chicken in the photo, and you will see a temperature probe that is set in the thickest part of the breast. This was a new recipe (in the language of the greater suburban Dildo, that means, "I have no idea what I am doing, and I don't want to keep jumping up from my drink to check how the chicken is cooking"), so I figured that if I just cook the breast to the correct temperature, everything else should be fine.

And it was. That is some browned and golden and sexy looking chicken!

What? No! You may not have the recipe.

******

From Ferrous, (mostly a lurker but occasional commenter) a link for an amusing video series called "Binging With Babish."
Follow along with my torso every week as I recreate the iconic and obscure foods from your favorite movies and TV shows, all in dazzling 4K. We'll make some delicious dishes, have a little fun, and if you're not careful, you might just learn a thing or two.

It's a funny idea, but the guy is also a pretty good cook. This isn't a failed comic trying to get YouTube clicks. He knows what he is doing.


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blueberry muffin.jpg

"Serious Eats" is a pretty good cooking site that tries hard to clean up a lot of detritus in the cooking world. So many recipes include (or exclude) steps just...because. For instance, here is a nice recipe for Classic Blueberry Muffins that has a rational solution for the horrible and sometimes marriage-ending problem of blueberries sinking to the bottom. It has the additional advantage of keeping that extra flour out of the batter, so the muffins are moister, and there is nothing worse than a dry muffin!
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instant pot.jpg

I got two emails within a few minutes asking my opinion of instant cookers. Artisanal'ette should know better...what the hell do I know about this stuff? Actually, she and I had the same opinion; we already have multipurpose tools in the kitchen that do all of the things that an instant cooker does. This is my response:

Eh….I have never used a pressure cooker, so I don’t know what I am missing. I have a Dutch oven that works perfectly as a slow cooker, and I steam stuff all of the time on the stove with a simple pot and steamer top, and that is really easy. I usually jazz up my rice with sautéed onions or garlic or shallots and then cook the rice a bit in the fat before I add the water, so I have no need for a rice cooker.
I rarely need a time-saver in the kitchen. I know how to cook, and for most things I know exactly how long they take. And…I like to cook, so it’s not some onerous chore to putter around the kitchen checking how my artichoke looks in the steamer, or popping the lid on the Dutch oven to see how the pulled pork is doing

Bluebell's similar question was a bit scary, because RED SOX FAN, so kitchen safety is paramount. As you may know, none of her knives have sharpened edges, and her husband turns off the breakers for the kitchen when he leaves the house.

Adding a big appliance to the kitchen counter doesn't mean that most people would throw away their Dutch Ovens and their steamer inserts and such. All it does is duplicate what most of us already have. If time is of the essence and (sort of) one-pot convenience is important, then have at it! But I really don't see the advantage, although I am confident that I will be beaten soundly about the head by the commenters for this heresy.

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Basic Tuna Tartare

  • 1 pound very fresh tuna steak
  • 1 ounce olive oil
  • 1 lime, juiced and zest grated
  • ¼ teaspoons wasabi powder
  • ½ tablespoons soy sauce
  • ½ teaspoon hot red pepper sauce
  • ¾ teaspoon kosher salt
  • ½ teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
  • ¼ cups minced scallions, white and green parts
  • ¾ tablespoons minced fresh jalapeno pepper, seeds removed (optional)
  • 1 teaspoons toasted sesame seeds,
  • 1 ripe Hass avocado

Cut the tuna into 1/4-inch dice and place it in a large bowl.

Combine the olive oil, lime zest, lime juice, wasabi, soy sauce, hot red pepper sauce, salt, and pepper.

Pour mixture over the tuna, add the scallions and jalapeno and mix gently but well.

Cut the avocados into 1/4-inch dice.

Carefully mix the avocado into the tuna mixture.

Allow the mixture to sit in the refrigerator for at least 1 hour.

Add the toasted sesame seeds, if using, and season to taste.

Serve on good tortilla chips.

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1 Pork Belly!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 03:55 PM (WbIyz)

2 Also First

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 03:56 PM (WbIyz)

3 Top photo looks really good.

Posted by: HH at January 21, 2018 03:56 PM (mIJBI)

4 But mainly, the pork belly. I think it came out all right for a first try.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 03:56 PM (WbIyz)

5 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 21, 2018 03:56 PM (KCxzN)

6 Grump, how was your pork belly and how did you serve it and what with?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 03:58 PM (/o9Qk)

7 I've been thinking of getting a small, like 2qt, slow cooker.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 03:58 PM (hMwEB)

8 Finger lickin' good (I've always hated that phrase, but that does look good).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)

9 also I don't have a working meat thermometer

and I'm cheap

what kind to get?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (hMwEB)

10 Dinner tonight is simple. Roasted chicken drumsticks, pierogi and a veg. Cauliflower, I guess.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (/o9Qk)

11 mmm pork belly

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (hMwEB)

12 Six hours in the smoker with apple wood smoke, then two more hours in the oven to finish it up. I really liked it just as it was but Mrs928 thought it was too salty so I washed off the heavy salt crust on the fat side and then flipped that side down in a large square skillet to cook off a bit more fat. She liked that better but still not to her taste so I OD on pork fat last night.

This morning I sliced up some thin and cooked it like, well, bacon and that has won her heart.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (WbIyz)

13 I get the rotisserie chicken at the local Publix store.

I cook it a little extra as I like my yardbird well done.

Delicious.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (EoRCO)

14 what kind to get?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (hMwEB)

One with a probe or just a regular one?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (wYseH)

15 and there is nothing worse than a dry muffin!

Is this a coded jab at Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (bb4h+)

16 I want an equal number of blueberries in every muffin. In.Every.Muffin!

Posted by: 'Ace' Rothstein at January 21, 2018 04:01 PM (pvjTE)

17 Did anyone call NOOD?

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 04:01 PM (obTcf)

18 I want an equal number of blueberries in every muffin. In.Every.Muffin!
Posted by: 'Ace' Rothstein at January 21, 2018 04:01 PM (pvjTE)



How about spacing? Are you concerned about that too?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 04:02 PM (bb4h+)

19 Top of the muffin TO YOU!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:02 PM (WbIyz)

20 i called nood

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:02 PM (AMIL/)

21 Gref...most excellent dude!

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 04:03 PM (obTcf)

22 I'm the chicken parmesan sort myself

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:03 PM (5gaNQ)

23 audubon.org/news/a-brief-history-modern-chicken

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (6FqZa)

24 best chicken ever? peruvian rotisserie roast chicken with green sauce! had it in nyc. there are several places as it's become very popular.

surprisingly, it's not based on some indigenous peruvian dish. it was invented by two swiss expats living in lima about 50 years ago!

delish!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (Pg+x7)

25 One with a probe or just a regular one?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (wYseH

I don't have either
but a probe sounds useful

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (hMwEB)

26 Here's a thread to discuss my hotdogs.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (cu8/f)

27 Richard Littler - I have a 1980s cookbook from Kazakhstan and it's very traumatic. It's more like a homicide forensics report.
twitter.com/richard_littler/status/954685632495972352

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (6FqZa)

28 >>
I want an equal number of blueberries in every muffin. In.Every.Muffin!


Heh. Perhaps you should try/make blueberry buckle instead? You'll have so many lovely berries in each slice you won't worry about there being an equal distribution.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:05 PM (W+vEI)

29 I have to admit that it has been years since I cooked a Boston Butt and very much underestimated how long it takes to cook. It was in the oven with the pork belly for the extra two more hours, and then 3 more and it still wasn't soft enough for pulled pork.

Today it's back in the oven at 250 and I'm going to leave it in for 5 or 6 more hours.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:06 PM (WbIyz)

30 I was thinking one hour a pound like a ham and it's more like two hours a pound.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:06 PM (WbIyz)

31 Either the image is upside down or CBD is cooking in space.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 21, 2018 04:07 PM (A73dY)

32 but a probe sounds useful

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (hMwEB)

https://www.thermoworks.com/

"The Dot" is the best one out there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 04:07 PM (wYseH)

33 Probes are always useful.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 04:08 PM (cu8/f)

34 I like my barnyard pimp well cooked too. I gotta try spatchcocked when it gets warm enough to mess with the smoker.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:08 PM (nisXv)

35 Is the inage upside down? Maybe I'm upside down.

I miss my hubby's grillskillz. He was a master.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 04:09 PM (cu8/f)

36 LMAO

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/286575/

Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2018 04:10 PM (LiyEm)

37 If Weasel had chickens he could have fried chicken or eggs every day, virtually for free

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 04:10 PM (aC6Sd)

38 I have a slow cooker that I love to use in the winter. The flavors have longer to mingle and meld in the pot and meats get super tender.

But for the most part I use my French oven, which is basically a Dutch oven with sloped sides, for a lot of cooking. Sometimes even rather using a skillet, I just put it on the rangetop and go to town.

I started to experience Instant Pot envy about a month ago but after reading CBD article maybe not so much.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 04:11 PM (kD8Fh)

39 On the other had if he had blueberry bushes he could have all the blueberry muffins he could want

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 04:12 PM (aC6Sd)

40 "in my opinion lamb cannot be overcooked"

Ummmm, rare lamb is the gold standard for meat, not overcooked lamb, which tastes like strange beef

Posted by: Bradr at January 21, 2018 04:12 PM (wBC4K)

41 When you have both members of a couple working and you want a real quick home cooked meal without the long time needed by traditional techniques, a pressure cooker is essential. Chicken soup, beef stew or soups using dried beans in ~25 minutes from start to serving.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 21, 2018 04:12 PM (Lk8va)

42 I don't see any pictures upside down

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 04:13 PM (aC6Sd)

43 I bought WeaselWoman a pressure,cooker tbecause she told me to get my ass to the store and get her a pressure cooker. We have used it twice and I'm pretty sure we don't know what we're doing.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 04:13 PM (Sfs6o)

44 Today it's back in the oven at 250 and I'm going to leave it in for 5 or 6 more hours.

I cooked one in the oven for the first time recently. The recipe I used called for 160 internal and that is wrong for fall apart tender. Shoulders have to go to 195ish to 205ish and if, on the way there they get too dark, foil is your friend.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:13 PM (nisXv)

45 Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 04:04 PM (hMwEB)

I think the smallest you can get is 5-6 quarts. A few years back I got one at Lowe's for 9.99. Did everything it needed to do, got some great meals out of it.

Then I upgraded to a model that has an insert that you can use to brown meat so it removes one extra skillet that you have to clean. It cost a lot more than 9.99.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 04:14 PM (kD8Fh)

46 "Ummmm, rare lamb is the gold standard for meat..."

Posted by: Bradr at January 21, 2018 04:12 PM (wBC4K)

You'll get no argument from me, but even well done lamb tastes great.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 04:14 PM (wYseH)

47 Wife buys the rotteserie chicken and uses it for chicken stew. She cooks it in her slow cooker. Its to die for and usually good for at least two meals.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (R5lpX)

48 The recipe I used called for 160 internal and that is wrong for fall apart tender. Shoulders have to go to 195ish to 205ish

I think that's probably right. Even though it's called a butt, it's no ham.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (WbIyz)

49
When I saw "blueberry muffins" I instantly thought Ace Rothstein but some bastard grabbed it less than 20 comments in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (Zpj6p)

50 If you have your own lamb ranch you can have lamb every day.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (bb4h+)

51 I have an Instantpot, thanks to Glenn Reynold's flogging and the passionate endorsement of co-workers.

As far as I can tell, it excels at making hard boiled eggs and potatoes.

For everything else, I'd rather use a slow cooker or stove.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (xJa6I)

52 Coffee recommendation request: Roasted whole beans I can order on the Internet. Medium roast, breakfast -type coffee. I like Denny's coffee if that's any help on my taste (or lack of).

I prefer to grind beans myself for french press brewing. The only local fresh roaster is hit-or-miss on what they have at any time. (I refuse to give Starbucks my business). I've tried the beans at grocery stores and it seems they were roasted during the Civil War.

Thanks in advance!

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (AMIL/)

53 Not sure why people are seeing that chicken upside down, but I may have fixed.

Still Australian for some people?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 04:16 PM (wYseH)

54 I will need incense, two cloves of garlic, holy water, and half a chicken.

Posted by: Victor Buono at January 21, 2018 04:16 PM (/qEW2)

55 JAX 14 - NE 10.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:16 PM (AMIL/)

56 Been experimenting with Sous Vide. Did carnitas this week. Came out great for tacos with homemade tomatillo sauce. In the process of making nachos with the balance of the meet.
Want to do beef short ribs Sous Vide style but cannot find good ones and those I've found cost an arm and a leg.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 04:17 PM (N3JsI)

57 JAX 14 - NE 10.


Is that chess code?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 04:17 PM (WbIyz)

58
Costco has great legs of lamb, lamb chops and racks. We often do lamb at Schloss Hadrian.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:18 PM (Zpj6p)

59 You pressure cooker h8rs haven't a clue. It cooks like a slow cooker only faaast. AND I promise you that the pressure (as opposed to a slow cooker) "infuses" herb flavor and aroma PLUS its a steamer, AND it browns, And you can set a delay, AND it cooks frozen foods (a whole chicken)in a flash just as well, AND it makes incredible soup from dry beans in about 13 minutes. Stick that in your oven and smoker and smoke it. Which is only thing it doesn't do.

I cook in it for guests and don't tell them. I turn it on while we are having drinks. The meat loaf i made in it i was told (by serious eaters) was the best meatloaf they ever had.

Slow cookers are so yesterday or the day before.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:18 PM (4CCz5)

60 >>>Chicken is surprisingly resilient


Rubber chickens are the most resilient.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at January 21, 2018 04:19 PM (/qEW2)

61 Whole chickens like that one are much easier to not dry out. In fact there is no comparison between the meat from those, and from the parts we all more commonly cook.


Did one yesterday, on the grill (indirect heat). Wanted to see if the steel smoker box full of soaked applewood chips would impart any smoke to the bird - did a turkey breast this way at T'giving, and was stunned at how much smoke flavor resulted (gas grill, not smoker).


Smokiness seems to have been achieved in the wings, and drumsticks, and skin. Of course turkey was in the grill for more than twice as long, so I wasn't expecting similar results (about 100 minutes for the chicken). Like CBD, stuck a thermometer in thickest part, got the perfect 165-degree reading, done.


Otherwise was my favorite whole chicken recipe. Meyer lemon zest and salt under the skin (have a Meyer lemon tree), sliced lemons in the cavity, whole bird painted with olive oil and crushed dry and fresh thyme (have a bush in the yard). Need to look up those Utoob videos on cutting up a whole chicken, seems I've forgotten the tricks on that.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:19 PM (QDnY+)

62 >>I think the smallest you can get is 5-6 quarts...


You can get smaller ones at Target. I've got a 3qt one, and they make cute little ones for hors d'oeuvres/dessert fondues.

Votermom - Check the recipes you'll use the slow-cooker for to make sure a 2qt one will work. A lot of recipes I find are for 4-5 qt size that I then have to trim by 1/3-1/2 so that it fits. Also, you're not supposed to fill a slow-cooker to the brim.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:19 PM (W+vEI)

63 59 You pressure cooker h8rs haven't a clue. >>>

But can I buy one without a BATF and DHS background check?

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:20 PM (AMIL/)

64 "Have you considered letting InstaPot into your life?"

*door slam*

"Thank you ma'am, and have a blessed InstaPot day."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:20 PM (qJtVm)

65 People roast chicken? I've been experimenting the last couple of years with roasting pork and sometimes beef. By experimenting I mean basically stabbing it a lot and putting garlic slivers in the stab wounds and rubbing spices and oil on the outside.

But Stop n Shop will sell me a whole roasted chicken for $4.99. Already roasted. It goes in salad, it goes in rice, you can eat it off the bone. They won't sell me a whole raw chicken for $4.99.

Is there some sort of chicken perfection to be achieved by roasting your own?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 04:21 PM (fuK7c)

66 Nice looking chicken.

I just had a pretty damn good Crab Hollandaise.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 04:21 PM (SjImc)

67 63 59 You pressure cooker h8rs haven't a clue. >>>

But can I buy one without a BATF and DHS background check?


Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:20 PM (AMIL/)

Lol. No they are an instrument of death. and you have to take a licensing class.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:22 PM (4CCz5)

68 Really a good recipe, the Meyer lemon/thyme one. Shallots go in the roasting pan (drizzled with olive oil). Remove them after an hour, into a blender with chicken stock, white whine, some fresh lemon juice, add drippings from pan when chicken's done, then heat/reduce gravy on the stove. Oh my. Highly recommend this one. Store-bought lemons will work, non-Meyers will work, though I'd use less (Eurekas and Lisbons much much more acidic, less flavor).



Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:22 PM (QDnY+)

69 I think that's probably right. Even though it's called a butt, it's no ham.

Around here the butt is part of the front shoulder. Picnic ham is the confusing name of the whole shoulder, I think.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:22 PM (nisXv)

70 54 I will need incense, two cloves of garlic, holy water, and half a chicken.
Posted by: Victor Buono at January 21, 2018 04:16 PM (/qEW2)
---
"You need a chicken for the ritual?"

"Nah, I get hungry after midnight."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:23 PM (qJtVm)

71 B-snatch the store-bought roasted chickens (or Latin American-style ones, if you have such places around) can be fantastic. Reason to do them at home is cheap, easy, and you can do recipes like mine just above.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:24 PM (QDnY+)

72 64 "Have you considered letting InstaPot into your life?"

*door slam*

"Thank you ma'am, and have a blessed InstaPot day."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:20 PM (qJtVm)

Lol. Just go to my website.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob "Bobs incredibel 35hp pressure cooker and pressure washer!" at January 21, 2018 04:24 PM (4CCz5)

73 I bought an Instant Pot for our RV. It will replace my pressure cooker, Crockpot, Styrofoam cooler, and nightlight (the latter two for keeping yogurt in the Crockpot liner warm while the starter works.) The gain in space is worth the limitations of the Instant Pot.

Posted by: wcgreen at January 21, 2018 04:24 PM (4Kl6S)

74 Gref, on coffee beans.


Black Rifle Coffee Company.


All sorts of beans/roasts. And epic un-PC, anti-PC humor and sass from a fun-lovin' bunch of veteran gun nuts.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:25 PM (QDnY+)

75 It's. A. Cult.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:25 PM (qJtVm)

76 Jacksonville 14
Referees 10

at the half

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (vChNs)

77 The answer for dry muffins:

https://tinyurl.com/y8pg9jn3

Too bad it doesn't come in bulk.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (tr2D7)

78 This thread is kinda slow now if we had a real pressure cooker thread it would FAST!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (4CCz5)

79 Lucca was born in the Netherlands. The Israel Defense Forces brought her to Israel and she trained there for six months with an American team. She was then inducted at Lackland in the United States and brought to the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona for training in an environment similar to Iraq. She served two tours of duty with the U.S. Marine Corps during her six years of service. During that time, she completed more than 400 missions. She was trained as a specialized search dog, and belonged to an elite group of canines capable of working off-leash at long distances from their handlers in dangerous situations. On her missions, no humans accompanying her were ever injured. Specifically, the dogs record of military service included Afghanistan with more than 400 patrols and three combat tours in Iraq. She was credited with finding ammunition, explosives and insurgents at least 40 times, without a single human casualty under her watch.

The PDSA noted that she protected thousands of human lives as part of her assignments. On her last mission in 2012, when she was on patrol in Afghanistan, she sniffed out a 30-pound (13.6-kilogram) IED and was continuing her search when she lost one of her legs when another IED detonated underneath her. Cpl. Juan Rodriguez, her handler, thought she had been killed, but was able to rescue her. He administered first aid, and Lucca was then airlifted to Germany for medical treatment and rehabilitation. Ten days after the explosion, she was walking again. Following her recovery from her injury, Lucca retired. She lived in California with Gunnery Sgt. Chris Willingham and his family.

According to Amy Dickin, the dispensarys spokesperson, the award of the Dickin Medal to Lucca garnered more public attention than any other Dickin Medal honoree in the programs 73-year history.

The story of Luccas life has been turned into a book, Top Dog: The Story of Marine Hero Lucca by Maria Goodavage.

Its with a heavy heart that I tell you that Lucca passed away yesterday. Juan was able fly in to spend some quality time with her in her last few days and we were both at her side as she took her last breath.

Lucca served in Marine Corps for 6 years. Her service included 2 deployments to Iraq and 1 to Afghanistan. She led over 400 hundred patrols and saved countless lives, mine and Juans included. In retirement, she became an ambassador for the Military Working Dog (MWD) community and brought awareness regarding the service and sacrifice of our MWDs and their handlers.

Lucca truly was a special dog. Juan and I are both fortunate to have served as her handlers. We will forever be grateful for her service and companionship. After her injury, we did our best to keep her spoiled during her well-deserved retirement. We truly appreciate the time we were able to share with Lucca. Luccas incredible personality and spirit left a lasting impression on us and countless others who knew her.

Never above you, never below you, always beside you

Rest in Peace Lucca, we love you.

-Chris

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (SjImc)

80 We bought one of those as seen on TV cookers. Damn thing has sat on the counter unused since we bought it. The little mixer/blender that came with it has seen some use though.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (R5lpX)

81 Black Rifle Coffee's Black Beard's Delight is my new go-to coffee. It has a chocolate nose with hints of gunpowder and mayhem.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:27 PM (qJtVm)

82 >>Is there some sort of chicken perfection to be achieved by roasting your own?

I can get a 3 1/2-4 lb chicken on sale* for $4.99 and I have a clay pot I use to roast chickens as well as other hunks of meat, and not only does it taste better than the store-bought chicken (IMHO), you can include some veggies in the clay pot (tossed in olive oil and herbs) for simple sides, but it makes the whole house smell divine.


*The clay pot is great for roasting whatever is on sale - always comes out tender and delicious. I use it all winter long for easy, hearty meals.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:28 PM (W+vEI)

83 80 We bought one of those as seen on TV cookers. Damn thing has sat on the counter unused since we bought it. The little mixer/blender that came with it has seen some use though.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (R5lpX)

Don't drink and watch late night tv. But thats where I got the idea for an electric PC.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:28 PM (4CCz5)

84 49
When I saw "blueberry muffins" I instantly thought Ace Rothstein but some bastard grabbed it less than 20 comments in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:15 PM (Zpj6p)

Posted by: Some Bastard at January 21, 2018 04:29 PM (FUu/Z)

85 A few weeks ago I was browsing the pasta sauce aisle at Whole Foods and something caught my eye: a foil packet containing Skillet Sauce. You just dump the contents into a skillet with water and dry pasta, and cook for 15-20 minutes. I thought the test drive would be terrible but it wasn't too bad, so I went back and got another one, this time white garlic flavor instead of fire roasted tomato. It's great for a quick meal for the fam, but I wouldn't serve it to company. Would cook pasta the normal way for guests.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 04:29 PM (kD8Fh)

86 Spatchcock! Now I'll read the comments.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 21, 2018 04:29 PM (4IjGx)

87
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 04:26 PM (SjImc)
Awesome story, thanks.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:30 PM (nisXv)

88 So through circumstances tonight will be what was one of my favorite dinners as a kid - breakfast for dinner. Kids in my family loved it, think mom liked it because it was easy.


Blackberry/walnut buttermilk pancakes, chicken breakfast sausage.


Tragically, it seems Grade B maple syrup is generally unavailable, at least where I always used to see it. Much prefer it to Grade A, amber, all that stuff. Wonder if it's sector issue - Grade B might be in more demand among food manufacturers or something? I don't think the "crack" (as with petroleum) has changed much for maple syrup - you still get various amounts of different grades during the cook-down, right?


Remember discovering Grade B in Vermont back in the early 90s, when I'd buy from individuals. Perfect stereotype farmer riding a tractor - plaid coat, barking done running along next to him - flag him down, he says he's sold out except for one 1/2 gallon can of Grade B. Perfect, I tell him. Never looked back ..... until now.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:30 PM (QDnY+)

89 RIP Marine doggeh

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 04:30 PM (kD8Fh)

90 Doing a variation on Moron Robbie's slow cooker curry using skinless chicken thighs, Japanese "Vermont Curry" and an extra tsp of curry powder. Smells good and now to eat it.

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 04:31 PM (zOpu5)

91 36: So poignant

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:31 PM (5gaNQ)

92 Thai chicken skewers over an oak fire tonight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 21, 2018 04:31 PM (89T5c)

93
Hail, Lucca! Valhalla awaits!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:31 PM (Zpj6p)

94 and there is nothing worse than a dry muffin!

Sob! If you only knew.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at January 21, 2018 04:31 PM (0ogQG)

95 It's Pasta Skillet Sauce by Red Fork products.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (kD8Fh)

96 You people know that you're praising a dog in a food thread, right?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (fuK7c)

97 My pressure cooker is also a weed whacker so i cut my herbs with it after I put in the meat and its ready to go!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (4CCz5)

98 Dang, forgot I used to have a clay pot. Used to make coq au vin in it. Outstanding. Small roasted/slightly scorched/salty red potatoes, good pinot.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:33 PM (QDnY+)

99 Ahahahahahaha.

Jim Acosta took a pic of the Empty WH Vending Machine!

Ahahahahaha.

I think this is his idea of PANIC!

Like it's never been empty before. Until a shutdown.
Ya ever seen vending machines during finals at college Jim?
Omgosh, you are so pathetic. Yow posted a pic of an empty vending machine.

Ahahahahahaha.












Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 04:33 PM (obTcf)

100 96
You people know that you're praising a dog in a food thread, right?

I was hoping there wasn't a second part to the story.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:33 PM (nisXv)

101 >>You just dump the contents into a skillet with water and dry pasta, and cook for 15-20 minutes....


Hmmm, I recall a Martha Stewart recipe like that was initially controversial.

https://food52.com/recipes/30147-martha-stewart-s-one-pan-pasta

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:34 PM (W+vEI)

102 96: Any thread is a good thread to praise the doggehs, Obama ain't here.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:34 PM (5gaNQ)

103 rhomboid and Eris, thanks for the coffee tips. I'll give Black Rifle a try.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:34 PM (AMIL/)

104 Here is a short video on making Kimchi.

It is sort of a martha stewart sort of thing, with added noises and posing with forsythia.

https://youtu.be/W4hvneKcPZI

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 04:34 PM (2K6fY)

105 What is wrong with my posting?! It's like I just added space for Tom Brady's forward on my last post!!

I am being pixentated! It's an attack.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 04:34 PM (obTcf)

106 And for you ettes' buy Cannibal Bobs Electric Pressure Cooker and Hair Dryer!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (4CCz5)

107 1. Over cooking lamb is a sin against lamb. 2. Crispy chicken skin is hard to beat. 3. It so happens we are having chicken and dumplings tonight thanks to an old hen who has stopped laying. 3. She was skinned and the skin will be made crispy fried in bacon grease which is the food of the gods.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (C8LGv)

108 FOREHEAD

not forward! Ugh.

I wish I could say I was drunk.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (obTcf)

109 Damn it NGU, you got my cold all aggravated again and my nose got stuffy and my eyes started watering!!!

Gref,
If you have a Costco membership I would very highly recommended the Ruta Maya coffee beans. You can also get them directly from Ruta Maya.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (kufk0)

110 Slow cooker is indispensable for me. Season and brown a Chuck roast, throw it in the cooker with a can of tomatoes, can of old school Campbells mushroom soup, one envelope of Lipton onion soup mix and a can of water. Set it on low and go to work. eight hours later, incredible pot roast. Serve on whatever you have time to make when you walk in the door and pour your drink, potatoes, rice, polenta, whatever. I don't think I've ever had a bad meal come out of a slow cooker. You could use an old boot with the above ingredients and it would be good. I don't trust leaving the oven on all day with the house empty.

Posted by: Sherlockzz at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (uBsvC)

111 Anyone looking for a good new pasta dish try the pepperoni pasta in Deplorable Gourmet, SIL loves it

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:36 PM (5gaNQ)

112 Is the clay pot a tagine?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 21, 2018 04:36 PM (89T5c)

113 Chicken skin fried in bacon grease?

I'll bring red wine. Where do you live and how should I dress?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)

114 80 We bought one of those as seen on TV cookers. Damn thing has sat on the counter unused since we bought it.

So has the KitchenAid stand mixer I gave her for Christmas 3 years ago. It looks good though, I guess.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 04:37 PM (YwGz6)

115 96 Makes good sense

Posted by: Barak Obuma at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (9TR2V)

116 Mrs IMG got an InstantPot in early Dec. I broke it in on New Years on a pork roast and kraut.

Turned out real fine. Nice to brown the roast in the cooker instead of a skillet.

Less than an hour to put it together.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (di1hb)

117 Dangergirl, I bought a Dot from thermoworks a few years ago on recommendations from the food thread. I love it. I think it was about 21 bucks.

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (EGFUD)

118 Lucca truly was a special dog. Juan and I are both fortunate to have
served as her handlers. We will forever be grateful for her service and
companionship. After her injury, we did our best to keep her spoiled
during her well-deserved retirement. We truly appreciate the time we
were able to share with Lucca. Luccas incredible personality and spirit
left a lasting impression on us and countless others who knew her.
Never above you, never below you, always beside you
Rest in Peace Lucca, we love you.

-Chris
=====

Damn allergies.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (MIKMs)

119 I saw BlueBerry Muffins open for The Rosties live at The Gorge in 2017.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (jeefx)

120
You people know that you're praising a dog in a food thread, right?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (fuK7c)






Of course we're braising the dog, how else do you prepare it?

Posted by: Barry O'Fuckstick at January 21, 2018 04:38 PM (eXA4G)

121 Here's a nice 1.5 quart crockpot for your beer 'n' brats:

https://tinyurl.com/y7nd7gx5

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:39 PM (qJtVm)

122 107: I bet you'd find Arni Kapama (lamb shanks, Greek style) overcooked. Husband won't eat in unless its falling off the bone

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:39 PM (5gaNQ)

123 >>Rest in Peace Lucca, we love you.


Awww! What a good doggie.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:40 PM (W+vEI)

124 Bandersnatch,

Northeast Iowa, I like Spanish reds, coveralls and lonjohns. You can bring the dog if it plays well with others.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 04:40 PM (C8LGv)

125 Get the Kitchen-aid out with the breadhook and make bread. That is what I use mine for; that and running the shredder that I use to make sauerkraut and shred pears for making jam.


Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 04:40 PM (2K6fY)

126 I was in the "I don't need an Instapot" camp for a long time. My husband bought me one for Christmas. I am starting to see what the big deal is. I made an excellent stew in a fraction of the time and some baby back ribs that fell off the bone in a hour. I can see how this is going to be a life saver in the summer. Roasted chicken is going now. My last one was a fail. Hopefully this one will be better. My bone broth was amazing. I will never make a cheesecake in it because that is sacrilege, but this contraption will probably replace my slow cooker. And honestly, good riddance.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at January 21, 2018 04:41 PM (gppsv)

127 120 Well you certainly don't spatchcock it
That's spatchReggie's job

Posted by: Barak Obuma at January 21, 2018 04:41 PM (9TR2V)

128 126: Instapots rock. Timesavers improve our menus

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:42 PM (5gaNQ)

129
Bets on there being some "key penalties" against the Jags in the second half? League office is probably bemerding itself over a possible Bortles/Keenum/Foles SB.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:42 PM (Zpj6p)

130 BO got served for my last dinner in office

Posted by: Barak Obuma at January 21, 2018 04:42 PM (9TR2V)

131 rickl- Lung cancer.

redc1c4- General Health. Would like to be healthy enough to look for a j*b.

kbdabear- Mother's dementia.

CaliGirl- Mom's boyfriend Arthur has cancer. --(12/26/17)- The gold digger that is elder abusing a friend of ours and making everyone miserable with ridiculous demand letters has claimed her first victim. I'm sad to report the special needs son of the elderly victim was found dead today. I have no idea how he passed. He was in his 50's and had no health problems.

Hrothgar- Lost Son in accident; (1/6/18 ) I'd appreciate Horde prayers for my grandson and granddaughter, both still very devastated by the loss of their father, and I truly fear for their futures. The grandson is in real emotional distress, but the granddaughter seems to be pulling out of it, but I can't really be sure.

Ritabootoo- Passed Friday, December 8th. Prayers for Family and Friends. Frequenter of the Pet Thread and our beloved friend.

Fenelon Spoke- Healing for my son and ability to pay healthcare bills.

RedMindBlueState- Cousin Agnes has passed. Prayers for her friends and Family. If you could add her husband Mel, who has Parkinson's and moved into assisted living now without his wife, to the list, I'd appreciate it.

Dr. Strangepork- Friend may have had a stroke.

Bebe's boobs destroy- Former co-worker's four year-old has cancer.

Mindful webworker- Wife's health due to longstanding issues.

ibguy- Sister's brain cancer, (gioblastoma).

pookysgirl- Husband's suicide attempt and mental health.

Jade Sea- Husband's cancer

Moron Pundit- Father-in-law's heart surgery.

junior- Employment

Duke Lowell- Son in need of healing.

Miley- Future employment, big move, Mother's cellulitis of leg.

Captain Whitebread- Mother's health and stable employment.

Jinx- Mother's passing.

Emmie- Continued relationship with Daughter.

Vic- Return of cancer.

ReneeTX- Terminal brain cancer.

Booknlass- Relationship with Daughter.

Just wondering- My sister Lisa had a large brain tumor removed, is partly paralyzed and wheel chair bound with memory issues and heart failure - needs prayers for her encouragement and recovery.
Also, our family needs prayers after the recent death of our father, after the passing of our mother last year. We've been through a rough patch.

Lin-duh fell- My FIL passed away 9/27/17. Could use the prayers for my husband finding a job.

Blacksheep- Stage 2 prostate cancer.

Weirddave and Gingy- Gingy's father passing away.

Alexthechick- Father's dementia.

Molly K- Niece killed by elderly driver.

Donna V- Bills to be paid and an alcoholic Brother.

Gushka- Infection after being bitten by her horse. Her friends' mental health after returning from battle.

TonyPete- Friends' terminal diagnosis, Wife's, (Renee), terminal illness.

bergerbuilder- Multiple strokes, out of hospital at end of September.

Chi- Friend's passing, (Lewis), after battle with cancer.

huerfano- Father's recovery from heart failure.

The Oort Cloud- Thalassemia, genetic blood disorder, complicated my hemolytic anemia. "Given" two years by doctor.

Hopped up on Something- Immediate Family member with cancer. Bone pain without opioids, Hospital Policy.

Publius- Father's health. Rheumatoid arthritis, severe pain during flare-ups. Stamina, in general.

Cannibal Bob- Our brother-in-law (my sister's husband) passed away yesterday morning. We are mourning the loss of the gentlest of souls who shared his gift of listening, was a Good Samaritan to any in need and was so close to the earth that you were grounded and at peace just being around him.
-Also, Bob's cousin who just finished chemo has been pronounced in remission. Praise the Lord!
-Our other brother-in-law with the cancer around his heart is doing well with chemo/radiation. We pray that it continues successfully and with few side effects.

Insomniac- 1) That my autoimmune disorder will stay under control. 2) That the work situation I have will continue to come together and grow.

OregonMuse- Shoulder replacement and recovery.

Slapweasel- Father's dementia and Mother's attitude.

Jane D'oh- Son's Best Friend was in a terrible automobile accident. Surgeries and long recovery ahead. (1/9/18 )

USNtakim- My MIL, (73), is going in for surgery 11/22/17 for bowel re-sectioning. Please pray for her and her family.

Iron Mike Golf- My grandsons. Safety and peace for them. Mrs IMG is scheduled for surgery.

Cheri- Lost Son, (21), in February to hiking accident.

Teresa in Ft. Worth- Lost Daughter, (26) to suicide on September 7th.

Alf767- Employment. 60 y.o. ex-pilot in aviation industry.

Backwards Boy- B'Gal has Congestive heart failure, COPD, scleroderma and arthritis.

Dang- Esophageal cancer. Starting radiation and chemo week of 11/26/17.

Methos- (12/12/17) Mother has Alzheimers and friend Herb died shortly before Thanksgiving, leaving a wife with unspecified memory issues and three adult children.

LCMS Rulz!- (12/12/17) 1) Advancing dementia in my Mother-in-Law: we're going to have to move her all-too-soon;
2) Praise and Glory be for the near simultaneous cancer healings among three of my in-laws.

Michael the Texan- (12/12/17) Difficult divorce from longtime physically abusive wife. Please pray for my wife, too, as this divorce will leave her with much less financial freedom.

Elisabeth- (12/12/17) Chronic stress from my perpetually low income is worsening my known autoimmune problems and probably some that haven't yet been diagnosed, and I've just started my fifth course of antibiotics for a recurrent sinus infection and nothing I've tried to improve my income situation (finding a better job, asking for a raise, selling my work, finding cheaper housing) has worked. Plus, I need new glasses but can't afford the eye exam.

Redinabluestate- (12/12/17) Prostate cancer.

Physics Geek- (12/12/17) Both my mother and stepdad (divorced and not together) are suffering from dementia, with my stepfather's case being somewhat further along.

NoLongerInTheBellyoftheBeast- (12/18/17) I need to have prayers added to the list for a friend and cow-orker named Renee who just got diagnosed with endometrial cancer. I could also use prayers for myself. Major joint pain and long term major depression. And prayers for better finances to pay medical bills.

Johnny- (12/19/17) About a year and a half ago my wife divorced me. It was all very civil and amicable. Today she told me (texted me) that she is now engaged. This whole time, I've been torn up and depressed, of course, but, I don't know, maybe I was in denial or something, because when she told me that.. Gah. It's really over. That life that I was so excited about, will never come to pass.

Tone Staple- (12/19/17) For a relative with Pick's Disease, and for his family. Pick's Disease is a form of dementia that starts with gradual loss of language.

Arch Stanton- (12/19/17) My dad is recovering from having a pacemaker put in, and battling COPD.

Captain Whitebread- (12/19/17) I've had to go to the local hospital ER a couple of times since heart surgery because I was concerned I might be having more heart trouble. I didn't, but since I didn't have insurance, the bill was huge. I tried paying a little every month, but sometimes I missed because money is really tight.
Monday, I was served with a court summons. The collection agency working for the hospital is taking me to court. I owe $4500. I have no way of paying in full. I have to appear in court with the next 35 days.
All I am asking from the Horde is prayers that a workable solution might be found. I am not asking for money; everyone has done more than enough after my heart surgery and when I almost had my electricity cut off a couple of years ago. I believe that with enough prayer, a way will reveal itself. At this time, I don't know what it is. But I believe there is one.

Ladyl- (12/20/17) My dad is back on Hopice and isn't doing great.

Anonymous- (12/19/17) ...Her family has to leave the R.V. park because her husband lost his job two months ago. He has a job prospect in Texas so he is going after it. There are 7 of them living in a 16 ft. trailer but the children are always clean and happy. She has been driving for Uber just to keep food on the table. She's scared about moving, trying to be normal for the kids, doesn't know what will happen if this job prospect doesn't work out. She's got such a good heart and is trying so hard, right now she feels a little desperate and tired.
Please pray for her and her family. I know how much it helps.

Anonymous- (12/22/17) A dear friend who survived cancer--twice--died unexpectedly Thursday night. Not from cancer. He was one of the kindest, sweetest people I've known. His widow is in shock, and sitting in their house looking at the tree they decorated together, and their gifts to each other under it.

Patrick from Ohio- (12/24/17) Can you add my Sister In Law Denise she suffers from LUPUS like symptoms and nothing is really working.

JQ- (12/26/17) 'Twas an otherwise Merry Christmas, because it might be Dad's last, as he has advanced cancer. Dad (80s) is ambulatory but slowing down...
The reality of Dad's situation hit hard tonight after I got home and my heart is breaking.
Prayers welcome, if you would please.
Thanks, Merry Christmas, and God bless you all.

Jim, Sunk New Dawn- (12/26/17) From a rather chilly Orlando, FL. 89 y/o Step Mom in deteriorating health. One way trip, and a contest as to what gets her first. Water around enlarged heart, or OldTimers.
Looks like I'll have to make a hasty long term TDY to Orlando, for however long time is left.

DaninMN- (1/8/18 ) Daughter came home from NICU and met her 19 Month old Sister.

mpfs- (1/1/18 ) Mom was taken by ambulance yesterday afternoon to the hospital. Possible stroke. When they took her sugar last night it was... 759. Even the neurologist did a double take.

Catman- (1/2/18 ) My dad died tonight.... Please prayers.

Ron- (1/2/18 ) Please pray for the family of Zack Parrish, the Douglas County Sheriff's
Deputy who was slaughtered in an ambush in Highlands Ranch, CO on December
30. He was a true follower of Jesus Christ. Zack was 29. Please pray for his
wife Gracie and the two little daughters he left.

rocketeer67- (1/2/18 ) Praying for strength to get through a totally unexpected, unforeseen and unwanted divorce from my wife of 20 years. Praying for understanding as to why she has asked for it. Prayers that her eyes would be opened to the hurt that this is causing everyone around her, even if we're all trying to accept it (with varying degrees of sucess moment by moment) with dignity, grace, and love. Most importantly, prayers for our young children, who while appearing to be bearing it better than expected are clearly (at least to me) not themselves.


AllenG- (1/9/18 ) None of my normal pith tonight. I desperately covet the prayers of the Horde.
The 9 yr old son of one of my old HS/Church youth group friends wouldn't wake up this morning. They took him to the ER and an MRI found a mass in his brain. A first surgery to remove it was only partially successful, he still hasn't woken up, and he's been back I surgery for the lady couple of hours.
His name is Brody Nelson. I grew up with his mom, Courtney. They and their family could really use a miracle right about now...

Gabe- (1/9/18 ) I have a couple of good friends, Patrick Porter and Barbie Turner who are both battling cancer. A petition to the almighty by the horde would be huge IMO.

Commander Cobra- (1/9/18 ) Prayers for active Service Members and those who have served.

sulla- (1/9/18 ) I'd ask to have my mother and sister-in-law added. My mother broke her shoulder this week, and my sister-in-law is recovering from a liver/kidney transplant.

Fox2!- (1/14/18 ) Please add a friend to the list. She is in ICU, sedated and intubated.

jeannebodine- (1/14/18 ) feeling particularly low right now in this brutal winter. My 68-year old husband suffers from Early Onset Alzheimer's Disease and he is deteriorating rapidly.
We have no family around us and friends are thin on the ground, even though we always had many friends throughout our lives. Even close friends have disappeared.
It sure is a different world out there than the one I grew up in. Prayers would be so appreciated for my husband and for me, a full-time spouse caregiver.
Thank you so much. Prayers for you and the Horde from my end.

Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing- Job issues; (1/16/18 ) A friend's wife of barely 2 years was killed by a train. No word on whether it was an accident or suicide. Prayers for him and his daughters.

Nathan- (1/16/18 ) Kitsapbass (and family) homeless. Long story short. Wife's ex husband has custody of elder two kids, goes to jail. We move in because state is mandating parent must be in residence, requiring us to break lease. Ex-husband kicks all (including kids he has custody of) out of house because he is upset that we are in the house (even though he knew all this was required by state).

Kim Jong-nun- (1/16/18 ) Please pray for the complete recovery of Wayne DuPree's sister who has the most virulent form of breast cancer.

Northernlurker- Wife has passed, (1/17/18 ).

Czarkazm- (1/17/18 ) We are grateful to God for taking care of our daughter in her first semester at college while earning a 4.0 GPA.

thathalfrican- (1/19/18 ) My mother for healing from her cancer and weight gain. My father for having the weight of the world on his shoulders. My siblings for being so young and having to endure all this. My wife for a safe finish to her pregnancy and delivery of our child.
Some good fortune for my family would be helpful heh.




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Please contact me through email, homemadegravy71 at the hooya, as I cannot be around for many of the posts in most threads. Feel free to copy and paste others' prayer requests and send them to me.

If I can post in your "voice", I'd like it better. It personalizes the prayer, instead of my shorthand.

I'd also like to pray for the people who aren't on this list. For those who don't choose to publicize their trials and maladies, I understand. You won't suffer in silence. A candle will be lit in your name.

Please remember the Prayer of St. Francis:

http://www.prayerguide.org.uk/stfrancis.htm

Corrections, additions and updates can be sent to the email in my nic.

Be as specific or as vague as you need. Anonymity is, of course, welcome.

-This list will be posted nearly every Sunday, as close to Noon as possible.

Let us console others, O Lord.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 21, 2018 04:42 PM (Ckg4U)

132 You people know that you're praising a dog in a food thread, right?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (fuK7c)

She's a special Dog

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 04:43 PM (SjImc)

133 JAX 17 - NE 10

(that means checkmate in 3)

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:43 PM (AMIL/)

134 I have to admit that it has been years since I cooked a Boston Butt and very much underestimated how long it takes to cook. It was in the oven with the pork belly for the extra two more hours, and then 3 more and it still wasn't soft enough for pulled pork.

Today it's back in the oven at 250 and I'm going to leave it in for 5 or 6 more hours.
Posted by: Grump92
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I just dump the whole thing in the slow cooker in the morning before I go to work.. By the time I get home, it is perfect.. And I only spice it with salt & pepper.. That way I can either pull it and add BBQ sauce at that time, or slice it or pull into bigger chunks to serve with noodles or sauerkraut and spaetzle or dumplings.. very versatile.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 21, 2018 04:44 PM (5tSKk)

135 Bets on there being some "key penalties" against the Jags in the second half?

I would take that action if it was available. You know it's coming.

17-10 jags now.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 04:44 PM (YwGz6)

136 110 Slow cooker is indispensable for me. Season and brown a Chuck roast, throw it in the cooker with a can of tomatoes, can of old school Campbells mushroom soup, one envelope of Lipton onion soup mix and a can of water. Set it on low and go to work. eight hours later
eight minutes later!, incredible pot roast. Serve on whatever you have time to make when you walk in the door and pour your drink, potatoes, rice, polenta, whatever. I don't think I've ever had a bad meal come out of a slow cooker. You could use an old boot with the above ingredients and it would be good. I don't trust leaving the oven on all day with the house empty.

Posted by: Sherlockzz at January 21, 2018 04:35 PM (uBsvC)

With the Cannibal Bobs Electric Pressure Cooker and Sand Blaster!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:44 PM (4CCz5)

137 Test:

[b/]test

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:46 PM (4CCz5)

138 My first kitchen aid sat for years not being used. When I finally started using it, I wound up getting a bigger one since I did so much with it. Bread, cookies, cakes, pizza dough, grinding meat, etc. I use it to mix my meatball and meat loaf mixtures. I've even used it to make batches of body scrubs and whipped shea body butter. Whipped cream and frosting and icing.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 04:46 PM (kufk0)

139 Fail!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:47 PM (qJtVm)

140 Prayers for all horde members in their times of need and loss.

Been there.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 04:47 PM (5gaNQ)

141 As busy as I am, I cannot live without my slow cooker. Found many great recipes out there on the interwebs and it's so nice after a long day at work, then visiting mom to come home and dinner is pretty much done. I use it at least twice a week.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 04:48 PM (dUJdY)

142 >>Dang, forgot I used to have a clay pot. Used to make coq au vin in it.
Outstanding. Small roasted/slightly scorched/salty red potatoes, good
pinot.


Oh, that sounds good!


Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:48 PM (W+vEI)

143 Ok all off to the great North. Iron Range MN.

Slap. thanks so much for everything. off to our dear Nicks memorial. Thank you all so much for thoughts and prayers.

CBob and Heidi.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:49 PM (4CCz5)

144 139 Fail!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:47 PM (qJtVm)

Love this place!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2018 04:49 PM (4CCz5)

145 >>I've even used it to make batches of body scrubs and whipped shea body butter.

I think we need to hear more about this!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 04:50 PM (W+vEI)

146 Semper Fi, Lucca! ::hand salute::

Dusty around here this evening.

Posted by: empire1 at January 21, 2018 04:51 PM (1Rci3)

147 Went to the Blueprint brewery Thursday, they were making a chocolate beer when last I was working there. Well tried it and was good, I thought it would be sweet ( not a sweet drink kind of guy) but
would describe it as a dark chocolate flavor not sweet at all.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 04:51 PM (aC6Sd)

148 Zebras will give aids and comforts to NE.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 04:53 PM (jeefx)

149 Well now I'm thinking I need to make dark chocolate pancakes with raspberry filling.

BRB.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:53 PM (qJtVm)

150 LMAO

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/286575/

Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2018 04:10 PM (LiyEm)


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Got to be joking or trolling.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 04:55 PM (/qEW2)

151 The prayer list is one of the things that make this place so special. And what makes the horde above and beyond the progtards. I pray for healing of all struggling to survive, and heaven's golden shores who do not.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 04:55 PM (C8LGv)

152
149 Well now I'm thinking I need to make dark chocolate pancakes with raspberry filling.

BRB.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 04:53 PM (qJtVm)
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You taunt me.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 04:55 PM (Sfs6o)

153 I got my Deplorable Cookbook last week.
I've been enjoying it greatly!
Congratulations on a big project well done, Weasel and Bluebell!

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 21, 2018 04:56 PM (w7KSn)

154 Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 21, 2018 04:56 PM (w7KSn)
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Thanks navybrat! Glad you're enjoying it!

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 04:57 PM (Sfs6o)

155 Mrs Mingo make lemon/blueberry buttermilk pancakes that need only butter. Maple syrup would destroy this delicate creation.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (C8LGv)

156
Referee: "The previous play is under further review."

Goodell: "Listen, you striped bastard. We need Brady in the Super Bowl for the ratings. Make sure it comes out right!"

Referee: "Upon further review it is a double touchdown for New England."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (Zpj6p)

157 Nice picture of that idiot Trump after Senitour Shoemore was done with him !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (hqQ+Q)

158 Weasel, how many cookbooks sold to date?

Posted by: Blake at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (WEBkv)

159 Watching Sharkweek on YouTube.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (jeefx)

160
158 Weasel, how many cookbooks sold to date?
Posted by: Blake at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (WEBkv)
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Just under 2,100, including overseas and eBook sales.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:01 PM (Sfs6o)

161 I read the prayer list and am overwhelmed by what people are enduring and shouldering. Humbled also.

The day NL's wife died, the following verse sprang up in an app I have:

Deuteronomy 31:8
"The LORD himself is who goes before you. He will be with you. He will not fail you nor forsake you. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be discouraged.”

It reminded me that He does not promise to make our earthly life smooth & sorrows disappear, but He promises to walk through them with us, if we ask. And He has gone ahead to prepare a place for us on the flipside of life.

I've been in places in my life where I've read that and been like "big whip-tee-do"...like that really helps me right now in a practical way. And other times where it has encouraged, assured and strengthened me.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:01 PM (obTcf)

162 Watching Sharkweek on YouTube.
Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January




you have a typo there, should be "sharkweak" ever since they went to the sharks are harmless side.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:03 PM (MTjB1)

163 >>Well now I'm thinking I need to make dark chocolate pancakes with raspberry filling.

>>Mrs Mingo make lemon/blueberry buttermilk pancakes that need only butter. Maple syrup would destroy this delicate creation.


Maybe we need a pancake thread?
I make these apple-molasses pancakes that do not need syrup - yum!!
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8cm5um4

I've also been on a dutch baby kick lately...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 05:04 PM (W+vEI)

164 Tweaking Ben Franklin: Dogs are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Luca was a guardian angel.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 21, 2018 05:04 PM (bNbo2)

165 I've also been on a dutch baby kick lately...
Posted by: Lizzy at January




Is that the same thing as a pannekoeken?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:07 PM (MTjB1)

166 >>Is that the same thing as a pannekoeken?


Yes!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 05:08 PM (W+vEI)

167 Lizzy,
I got into essential oils, not the doterra pyramid kind, but trying to source from reputable dealers who source from the best places. I found out it ain't a cheap hobby. Paying hundreds of dollars for a few milliliters of Rose Otto essential oil is not for the average person. I made coconut oil sugar scrubs, ointments/balms, and body butters for friends and family. It was strictly a hobby although sometimes someone would come back wanting to buy more.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:10 PM (kufk0)

168 I use my instant pot constantly. It lets me start dinner after I get home from work and still have dinner at a reasonable time. nomnompaleo.com has great recipes.

Posted by: chris not rock at January 21, 2018 05:10 PM (WO0/g)

169 Just under 2,100, including overseas and eBook sales.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:01 PM (Sfs6o)

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Very cool. You and bluebell did a great job! Thanks!

Posted by: Blake at January 21, 2018 05:10 PM (WEBkv)

170 I got my little sister and new BiL an Instant Pot for their wedding gift.

She's due in March.

Now, I'm not saying there's necessarily any correlation there, but on the other hand, owning an Instant Pot will make you 100% pregnant, guaranteed.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 21, 2018 05:11 PM (y87Qq)

171 Just checked. MIL (who passed in May 17) got me a Insta-Pot before there was an Insta-Pot about 3 years ago for Christmas.

Does all of the above.

Ive used it once or twice. I wil have to break it out and make some bone broth.

Prayers for all above. And what Prof Chaos said.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:11 PM (1ubE4)

172
Just under 2,100, including overseas and eBook sales.
Posted by: Weasel


Just wait for the DNC bulk purchase!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 05:12 PM (Zpj6p)

173 Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:10 PM (kufk0)


I bought bacon at the grocery store b/c of your suggestion. Waayyyy better than by awful oatmeal.

Ty. (It was you, right?) if not, take credit anyway. :-)

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:12 PM (obTcf)

174 Smoked, ceviched, pickled or baked with lemon-dill-butter.

http://cheezburger.com/9116221952

Not sure how you'd get the pike slime off the cat though.

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 05:13 PM (FhXTo)

175 Very cool, lin-duh! My sister has dabbled in soap-making. I had to go to the local Lush store for a Christmas gift for the other sister's daughter - yikes, that stuff is expensive, but I could see how easily one could get into making it!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 05:13 PM (W+vEI)

176
Very cool. You and bluebell did a great job! Thanks!
Posted by: Blake at January 21, 2018 05:10 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks. She's a great lady to work with!

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:13 PM (Sfs6o)

177 I just read about Lucca, and now I'm crying like a baby.

I'm no theologian, but anybody who thinks animals don't have souls is simply wrong.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 05:14 PM (sdi6R)

178 Venison sushi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RkLP5IxSI

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

179 So, I went to a Minute Clinic this morning and they tested me for flu. $200 that I don't have later, I just have a bad "flu-like cold". Soup...it does a body good! Fluids are great and all but I hate that your hobby becomes peeing all the time and a little every time you cough!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:15 PM (kufk0)

180

Just wait for the DNC bulk purchase!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 05:12 PM (Zpj6p)
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Yeah! Barnes & Noble has it listed but I don't think they have sold any. We're still selling 3 or 4 a day on Amazon.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:16 PM (Sfs6o)

181 So, I went to a Minute Clinic this morning and they tested me for flu. $200 that I don't have later, I just have a bad "flu-like cold". Soup...it does a body good! Fluids are great and all but I hate that your hobby becomes peeing all the time and a little every time you cough!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at January




Why would you get tested for the flu?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:16 PM (MTjB1)

182 I have never tried making fried chicken-just roasted or or broiled chicken; I was afraid it would turn out to be greasy mess, or if I got fried chicken from the store and reheated it, it would be soggy-which has happened. Yesterday, however, I saw a baked chicken recipe on a corn meal box for corn meal, shredded parmesan cheese,and spices. I dipped the chicken in milk and then dipped it in the spice/corn mea/l.four recipe and basted it with butter. Cooked in the oven for 40 minutes. It really turned out well.-liked fried chicken , really. FenSpouse asked to have it again sometime.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:17 PM (8+Ozj)

183 Professor Chaos,
Um...Uh, ya sure, anytime.....I guess?!?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:19 PM (kufk0)

184 Whoa call did not go NE's way but it couldn't there obvious fumble.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 05:19 PM (YwGz6)

185 Why would you get tested for the flu?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:16 PM (MTjB1)


I used to wonder that too. But if it is flu you can get Tamiflu. And if it is not the flu, but bacterial, you can get Antibiotics.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:20 PM (obTcf)

186 Bander ....

Not a dog -- a warrior and any thread has room for that.





Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 05:20 PM (IMTKc)

187 Yeah! Barnes & Noble has it listed but I don't think they have sold any. We're still selling 3 or 4 a day on Amazon.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:16 PM (Sfs6o) >>>

Have you considered doing an infomercial? Can't cost much to buy 30 minutes at 3 AM on most cable channels.

A few morons and moronettes could demo cooking their recipes. Then the pitch: For the first 100 callers, get three cookbooks for the price of two, and a free lifetime subscription to Ace of Spades HQ!

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 05:21 PM (AMIL/)

188 Is Tamiflu by prescription only?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 05:21 PM (qJtVm)

189
179 So, I went to a Minute Clinic this morning and they tested me for flu. $200 that I don't have later, I just have a bad "flu-like cold". Soup...it does a body good! Fluids are great and all but I hate that your hobby becomes peeing all the time and a little every time you cough!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:15 PM (kufk0)
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If you're sick don't touch any of my stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:21 PM (Sfs6o)

190 Tamiflu allows the Devil to speak into your ears.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 05:22 PM (jeefx)

191 I used to wonder that too. But if it is flu you can get Tamiflu. And if it is not the flu, but bacterial, you can get Antibiotics.
Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January




well, yeah there are treatments but I did not know there was a flu test. My flu test was the doctor who would say flu or cold then dispense medicine.

you should get some Tamiflu when it is available and store it for when you need it because they always seem to run low during flu season then people start rationing for old people.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:22 PM (MTjB1)

192 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:17 PM (8+Ozj)

I like the corn meal. Dried potato flakes work good too. Bigger and extra churnchy.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:22 PM (1ubE4)

193 Hope you get to feeling better Lin-duh! Soup, fluids, rest. I know..you pee constantly but that's good. Keeping the body flushed. They put mom on anti-biotics even though they thought she was better. She still sounds awful but her spirits are good. A visit from her grand kids today did a world of good!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:22 PM (dUJdY)

194 Mainly to see if I could get Tamiflu and go to work or not. If I officially have the flu I wouldn't go to work with it. Since it's just a cold, I just have to be careful and stay away from people, wash hands, cover coughs, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:23 PM (kufk0)

195 Professor Chaos,
Um...Uh, ya sure, anytime.....I guess?!?
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:19 PM (kufk0)


Hahahahaha.

lol

I was complaining the other night about having no food in the place except oatmeal. Which I kept around b/c I'm horrible about going to grocery store. Yet, I don't like oatmeal.

Someone suggested bacon instead. And that made so much more sense. I don't usually eat bacon, but like it well enough. So good bye oatmeal...hello bacon. ( And no, I don't know why I did not think of it on my own. Thus my enthusiastic ty.)

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:23 PM (obTcf)

196 Jacksonville making the SuperBowl would be a SMOD early warning data point.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 05:23 PM (jeefx)

197 Lamb very much can be overcooked.

Posted by: Monty James at January 21, 2018 05:24 PM (gKOMX)

198 Is Tamiflu by prescription only?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf




yes

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:24 PM (MTjB1)

199 Have you considered doing an infomercial? Can't cost much to buy 30 minutes at 3 AM on most cable channels.

A few morons and moronettes could demo cooking their recipes. Then the pitch: For the first 100 callers, get three cookbooks for the price of two, and a free lifetime subscription to Ace of Spades HQ!
Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 05:21 PM (AMIL/)
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We've talked about having a little media campaign this spring maybe - sending copies to conservative radio programs. If anyone has any contacts, please let us know!

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:24 PM (Sfs6o)

200 Grilled steaks (ribeye, med. rare) last night along with

Commodore Cocktails

1.5 oz bourbon
1 oz creme de cacao
1 oz fresh lemon juice
Dash of grenadine.

Shake with ice. Strain. Drink!

Sounds like it'd be too sweet but it's not. One of those classics from the 20s-30s. Goes really well with steak.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 05:24 PM (9q7Dl)

201 Flu or flu-like crud? Some info:

https://tinyurl.com/yaaour6s

I've had flu-like crud several times the past 5 years. It's over in 5-7 days. Have't had the true flu in a long time, knock-on-wood.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 05:25 PM (AMIL/)

202 Am I the only one who has the January/Feb blahs? Sick of the cold and we still have a few months of it

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 05:25 PM (EGFUD)

203 Mainly to see if I could get Tamiflu and go to work or not. If I officially have the flu I wouldn't go to work with it. Since it's just a cold, I just have to be careful and stay away from people, wash hands, cover coughs, etc.
Posted by: lin-duh at January




oh. do they have a flu test?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:25 PM (MTjB1)

204 OK, there's the touchdown. Now it's a game.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 05:25 PM (fuK7c)

205 I used to wonder that too. But if it is flu you can get Tamiflu. And if it is not the flu, but bacterial, you can get Antibiotics.
Posted by: Professor Chaos

Got to feeling bad last year. Waited a couple days. I already had the flu shot. Couldnt be the flu. Went to clinic. It was the flu.

Got the Tami-Flu and felt better the next day.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:27 PM (1ubE4)

206 No flu test at work but I'd feel really bad if I gave it to someone. A cold is bad enough....

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:27 PM (kufk0)

207 No infidel, you are not the only one. I hate winter with a passion and I've had a bad case of the blues lately. Yesterday didn't help and today started out horrible. I just feel blah.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:27 PM (dUJdY)

208 oh. do they have a flu test?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:25 PM (MTjB1)
---
Dunking.

No, wait, that's the VVitch test.

If you do test positive for witchery, just say it was the Devil speaking through the Tamiflu.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 05:28 PM (qJtVm)

209 I am lifting all those on the list in prayer today, and always. Thank you Slap for the list. Thank you Prof Chaos for the words of wisdom.

Posted by: sassy at January 21, 2018 05:28 PM (tUGnI)

210 Not exactly haute cuisine but I had something I haven't had in ages: a peanut butter and banana sandwich. I've liked them since I was a little kid. I think there's a passage in the Bible that it should be served with Fritos and a big glass of cold milk.

I seldom have anything like this because carbs but I had to build my electrolytes back up last week and that was a good excuse to indulge.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 05:28 PM (V+03K)

211 Hope you get to feeling better Lin-duh! Soup, fluids, rest. I know..you pee constantly but that's good. Keeping the body flushed. They put mom on anti-biotics even though they thought she was better. She still sounds awful but her spirits are good. A visit from her grand kids today did a world of good!
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:22 PM (dUJdY)


Um...don't taze me...but antibiotics if viral will only make her more susceptible to other viruses. Antibiotics kill the germs but also the good bacteria that powers our immune system.

However, maybe they they thought she had something bacterial and not viral,and got it wrong the first time.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:28 PM (obTcf)

212 Dunking.

No, wait, that's the VVitch test.

If you do test positive for witchery, just say it was the Devil speaking through the Tamiflu.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January




lol

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:29 PM (MTjB1)

213 Chicken in order of Fav
Vertical Roaster Dry Brined, Beer in roaster
Rotisserie Weber Genesis 500 Brined and butter garlic
Smoker Mesquite and beer
Chic Fil A Spicy Breast

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:29 PM (BtQd4)

214 A number of years ago my niece and I visited my Uncle Roy in England. Auntie Day served lamb chops with her own home made mint sauce. I dont remember the chops but damn, I remember that sauce. Wish I had the recipe.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 21, 2018 05:29 PM (prxs+)

215 Kodiak cakes waffle mix has a chocolate flavor I saw today, I like there other mixes

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:29 PM (aC6Sd)

216 Hey weasel, could I just borrow your favorite rifle *cough, cough*, I'll give it right back *cough, blows nose*

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:30 PM (kufk0)

217 Come on Jags

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:30 PM (aC6Sd)

218 Tami's got the flu?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2018 05:30 PM (di1hb)

219 the Army cured my love of chicken, although real fried chicken is still an option.

i cook it on a regular basis because HRH insists on it, but meh. i just grill skin on chicken tits, then serve. the animals get any of the skin i don't eat.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 05:31 PM (iJXSP)

220 I remember the name of the cooker wife bought. It's one of those Nuwave cookers. She used it one time to cook some fries ( with no grease) and they didn't taste the same. Haven't used it since.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 05:31 PM (R5lpX)

221 Hey everybody.

JTB, I believe it was you who wanted to try my "gaucho steak sauce" recipe last week. How'd you like it?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:31 PM (eMKNe)

222 I'm thinking it might not be such a great idea to take cooking tips from a cannibal, but that's just me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (gC2IV)

223 215 Kodiak cakes waffle mix has a chocolate flavor I saw today, I like there other mixes
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:29 PM (aC6Sd)
--
That's what I'm using! The dark chocolate pancake mix.
They are hi-protein !!Power Cakes!! so I'm telling myself it's healthy. I've made them before with blueberries and OMG.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (qJtVm)

224 Spatchcock chicken, awesome. I've found that roasting the breast to 160/165 degrees lends the best results. Dark meat cooks faster so finishes at a higher temp, which it needs to.

If you don't have a digital meat probe, get one. Absolutely necessary.

Love the food thread!

Posted by: Titus Justus at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (k1vXR)

225 And now I will add that I use my stovetop pressure cooker at least twice a week. I make bone broth all the time. Stews and soups. I also cook pinto beans every week. I am a big fan, actually I am on my third pot. No need for an instapot, but if you don't have a pressure cooker, it makes life easier.

Yum

Posted by: sassy at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (tUGnI)

226 anybody watching the game? my son tells me romo has joined the tom brady ballwashing club. is that true?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (KP5rU)

227 Here's a recipe for Chinese style pork belly.

It's super yummy and stupidly easy:

http://gastronomicrelevancy.blogspot.ca/2014/01/chinese-braised-pork-belly.html


Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (9q7Dl)

228 Prayers up for all on the list and the rest of the Horde.
I agree, Terrific job Weasel and Bluebell on the cookbook.
Now, I just have to start cooking.
Weasel, did you get your cigars? Chilly and drizzly outside so I'm enjoying a maduro Mark Twain while trying to keep up.

Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (wgCUV)

229 unless the tamiflu hallucinations are permanent who cares? even better if they give you hallucinations of kate upton tending to you in some hot nurse bikini with a bottle of scotch.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (MTjB1)

230 Come on Jags

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:30 PM (aC6Sd)



If I am granted the power of the curse you will never get another first.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (fuK7c)

231 Perfect fried chicken:

Bake chicken at 200 for 20 minutes. Remove and let cool. Next dredge in buttermilk and then coat with cornmeal, salt, and pepper. Fry in bacon grease until skin is crispy, drain, let it rest on newspapers, then serve while still hot.

Mama told me so in order that I could impress my future Mrs Mingo. Guess what? It worked. 48 years later she is a fiend for my fried chicken with a dash of Louisiana hot sauce.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (C8LGv)

232 Another reason to hit the clinic or your own doc, if you think you have flu, is that Tamiflu is most effective in the first 24-48 hours.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (obTcf)

233 Jewells, Feb seems to be the worst. Trying to fight it off. Maybe I should start some herb seeds for one of the kitchen windows.

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (EGFUD)

234 on topic and hilarious

https://twitter.com/vannsmole/status/954858212624355328

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (hMwEB)

235 Hmm, turns out my local La Pizza Loca is still around, delivers via Doordash, and has a La Mexicana pizza:

Beans, mozzarella, cheddar, chorizo, bacon, onions, jalapeno. Worth a try?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM (eMKNe)

236 pressure cooking assumes a lot of unnecessary risk to save a little time. simply cook it the day before and have left overs. who wants to clean cat off of their ceiling?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM (MTjB1)

237 Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (C8LGv)

Sounds great; I'll have to try it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM (8+Ozj)

238 Just smashed my second mosquito this afternoon.

So much for cold killing the insects. It was 5 degrees 15 days ago.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM (1ubE4)

239 Professor, well this is one of those things where I have to trust they know what they are doing. She had the flu, then caught pneumonia. If left untreated pneumonia can lead to sepsis. I think they thought that's where she was headed. She just wasn't getting any better. I can hear her wheezing when we talk on the phone. It's awful.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:35 PM (dUJdY)

240 101. yes Lizzy the pasta purists probably went bonkers. I'm usually in the purity camp but there is something to be said for convenience.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (J3qJd)

241 Hmm, turns out my local La Pizza Loca is still around, delivers via Doordash, and has a La Mexicana pizza:

Beans, mozzarella, cheddar, chorizo, bacon, onions, jalapeno. Worth a try?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January




You know, lots of restaurants go broke and another assumes their name and internet site and moves their "restaurant" in house as a delivery only store. caveat eater

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (MTjB1)

242 198 Is Tamiflu by prescription only?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf




yes
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:24 PM (MTjB1)

US Healthcare system explained in 1 post. A strep vs flu test would cost about a dollar without our FDA and AMA. Drugs would cost about a buck. Birth control pills should cost about what flintstone vitamins do. Same for morning after. FDA, doctors and pharmacist prevint US healthcare.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (BtQd4)

243 Only dog it this game I have is I hate those cheating bastards with every cell I have.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (aC6Sd)

244 "Perfect fried chicken"

Thanks for sharing that, colfax.

I remember a long time ago, discussing that I had got a deep fryer.

Long story short, two years later: I'm glad I got the thing, but (a) I don't use it very often anymore, too much to clean up and (b) some things are super easy (like fish), others not so easy (like fried chicken).

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (eMKNe)

245 Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM (MTjB1)

Sounds like my wife.

My grandmother did have a .22 sized hole in her kitchen ceiling though. Remember it like yesterday.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:36 PM (1ubE4)

246 dot dot dash, I hear ya. I think La Pizza Loca is legit though, I've seen a few locations around that are still open.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (eMKNe)

247 Infidel, yes!! You should!!! It may help to lift your spirits. I agree, February is the worst. I just try to keep positive and tell myself only a few more months, only a few more months...

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (dUJdY)

248 Well, shit. The fix is in.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (bNbo2)

249 Since this is the food thread, has anyone made meat ravioli? I got a pasta attachment for my kithen aid and want to try it out.

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 05:38 PM (EGFUD)

250 peanut butter and banana sandwich. I like waffles with bananas and peanut butter. Mmmm good.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 05:38 PM (R5lpX)

251 Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:35 PM (dUJdY)


So dangerous to have pneumonia! Yes, she should have been on antibiotics with that.

I actually hate being all armchair physician, but there were some times in my life I should have said stuff and didn't, and the outcomes, b/c I didn't want to be annoying, still haunt me.

So forgive my worry wart nature. Hope she gets well soon.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:39 PM (obTcf)

252 Well, shit. The fix is in.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (bNbo2)

For what?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:39 PM (8+Ozj)

253 No worries Professor!! and thank you

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:39 PM (dUJdY)

254 Well, shit. The fix is in.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (bNbo2)

For what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January




reunion tour of top 100 bands from the 80s.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (MTjB1)

255 For what?

lo... gotta be the New England game.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (dUJdY)

256 221 ... qdpsteve, Haven't had a chance to try the Gaucho sauce yet. But I saved the recipe as a separate document for easy use. The low electrolytes left me unsteady at the stove. Once I get a chance, I'll announce it here.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (V+03K)

257 Not watching game but have it on my tablet, shows score, ball location and time left.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (aC6Sd)

258 Fuck up as a welfare mothers checkbook

Biden Is Top 2020 Pick For Dems

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:41 PM (BtQd4)

259 >>>Not exactly haute cuisine but I had something I haven't had in ages: a peanut butter and banana sandwich. I've liked them since I was a little kid. I think there's a passage in the Bible that it should be served with Fritos and a big glass of cold milk.


Elvis 1:10.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 05:41 PM (/qEW2)

260 254; be better than the nfl. hope flock of seagulls make the cut.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:41 PM (KP5rU)

261 JTB, no worries, thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:42 PM (eMKNe)

262 34 on topic and hilarious

https://twitter.com/vannsmole/status/954858212624355328
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 05:33 PM (hMwEB)




Bwahahahahaha.
Ty for that!!

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:42 PM (obTcf)

263 better than the nfl. hope flock of seagulls make the cut.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January




lol




Was hoping the girl who did the "oh mickey" song would be in it but she was only a one hit wonder.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:42 PM (MTjB1)

264 rhennigantx, yup.

If Biden could have pulled a Tonya Harding on Hillary and run last year, he would have won IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:43 PM (eMKNe)

265
lo... gotta be the New England game.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (dUJdY)

Was sure if he was discussing politics and the FBI "losing" a bunch of e-mails between Strozk (sp?) and his girlfriend.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:43 PM (8+Ozj)

266 I actually hate being all armchair physician, but there were some times in my life I should have said stuff and didn't, and the outcomes, b/c I didn't want to be annoying, still haunt me.

So forgive my worry wart nature. Hope she gets well soon.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 05:39 PM (obTcf)

Remember. There are bad doctors just like anothers in different professions.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (1ubE4)

267 Well, shit. The fix is in.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:37 PM (bNbo2)

For what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:39 PM (8+Ozj)

Don't mind me. I'm watching the game, and the refs are all in on the Patriots.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (bNbo2)

268 How smart am I? One of the gifts I gave to my daughter and SIL was a big Zojirushi rice cooker to replace their small one. They gave the small one to me! I never thought a rice cooker would be worth it, but it totally is! Set it and forget it and it is perfect every time with no watching or timing. Converted. (No pun intended, as the oldsters among us will get.)

Posted by: kalneva at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (qU1DE)

269 dot dot dash, Toni Basil?

A lot of people don't know how far back she goes. 12 years before "Mickey" was a hit, she was in Easy Rider. Not a joke.

Also, I actually have in my mp3 collection the Spanish-language version of "Mickey." LOL. She was working hard to get the words and accent right, if you listen to it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (eMKNe)

270 Part of my changing view is that OKeefe, despite his mistakes, has revealed evidence of serious wrongdoing and unethical behavior that no one else did or would.

The girl acting as 13 to prostitute needing abortion is always TFF.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (BtQd4)

271 258 Fuck up as a welfare mothers checkbook

Biden Is Top 2020 Pick For Dems
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:41 PM (BtQd4)

I honestly don't see them running an imbecilic, vicious old white man against PDT for 2020. I think they'll reach into the identity politics bag and pull out another affirmative action candidate.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 05:45 PM (NWiLs)

272 dot dot dash, Toni Basil?

A lot of people don't know how far back she goes. 12 years before "Mickey" was a hit, she was in Easy Rider. Not a joke.

Also, I actually have in my mp3 collection the Spanish-language version of "Mickey." LOL. She was working hard to get the words and accent right, if you listen to it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January




Knew she was older than you would think but did not know how much so. Did not know she was in easy rider.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:45 PM (MTjB1)

273 267: i'm still on strike. fuck the nfl. of course the refs are all in on the pats. nobody would watch the jags in the big one.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:46 PM (KP5rU)

274 3. It so happens we are having chicken and dumplings tonight thanks to an old hen who has stopped laying.

Some animals are more tasty.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:46 PM (BtQd4)

275 lo... gotta be the New England game.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:40 PM (dUJdY)

Was sure if he was discussing politics and the FBI "losing" a bunch of e-mails between Strozk (sp?) and his girlfriend.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:43 PM (8+Ozj)

Kind of hard to keep up these days, right?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:46 PM (bNbo2)

276 Penalties: Jax 6-98. NE 1-10


Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 05:46 PM (jeefx)

277 dot dot dash, yup.

Also, has anyone seen this makeup commercial (I think it's for L'Oreal) featuring Elon Musk's mom? Turns out she was a late 1960s/early 1970s model, I guess. Maye Musk.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:47 PM (eMKNe)

278 pressure cooking assumes a lot of unnecessary risk to save a little
time. simply cook it the day before and have left overs. who wants to
clean cat off of their ceiling?


Modern pressure cookers are far safer than those of yore.

But I do remember back when I was a wee lad in the early 70's and my parents' best friends' wife put the lid of one right into the ceiling in the kitchen. To add insult to injury, I think she was cooking beets...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:47 PM (j0Oc6)

279 nobody would watch the jags in the big one.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:46 PM (KP5rU

I sure as hell would. especially if they were playing the Vikings (my team).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:47 PM (bNbo2)

280 There is a place a couple towns over in Granville MA called Sussmans. They sell tiny wild blueberries, about the size of 00 shot. They only have them between July the fourth and Labor day. They sell out by then, sometimes sooner. They are quite reasonable and they come picked. They freeze quite well. They are the best I have ever had.

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (4u7kU)

281 Brady and New england are amazing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (SjImc)

282 Was sure =Wasn't sure.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (8+Ozj)

283
Modern pressure cookers are far safer than those of yore.

But I do remember back when I was a wee lad in the early 70's and my parents' best friends' wife put the lid of one right into the ceiling in the kitchen. To add insult to injury, I think she was cooking beets...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January




lol and lol

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (MTjB1)

284 well duh
One of the newly discovered messages, lawmakers said, appeared to indicate that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page knew that charges would not be filed against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (BtQd4)

285 jewel45,

H1N1 layed me low in 2010, could not kill the beast, turned into bacterial pneumomia that landed me in the hospital for 5 days. My doctor told me I was lucky to survive. I told him I was a bitter clinger to life.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 05:49 PM (C8LGv)

286 One of the newly discovered messages, lawmakers said, appeared to indicate that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page knew that charges would not be filed against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:48 PM (BtQd4)

Apparnently everyone in the upper echelons of the FBI/Justice knew and the White House. Jail them all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 05:49 PM (SjImc)

287 *sad trombone*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:49 PM (bNbo2)

288 The Rock Bottom Brewery (a Denver brew-pub chain) has a great chicken dish right now. Pretzel-crusted, and smothered in a beer-cheese sauce with a little bit of bacon. Mashed potatoes and "seasonal veggies" (which turned out to be Brussels sprouts) on the side.

I just had it, and I really enjoyed it!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 21, 2018 05:49 PM (wSC8T)

289 281: thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:50 PM (KP5rU)

290 I sure as hell would. especially if they were playing the Vikings (my team).
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:47 PM (bNbo2)

I'd say ya got a good chance of watching the Pats kick the ....... out of the Vikes

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:50 PM (4u7kU)

291 TFF
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2018/01/trump-doesnt-believe-america/

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:51 PM (BtQd4)

292 I honestly don't see them running an imbecilic, vicious old white man against PDT for 2020. I think they'll reach into the identity politics bag and pull out another affirmative action candidate.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 05:45 PM (NWiLs)


Is this about me?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 21, 2018 05:51 PM (obTcf)

293 way too effing funny




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaldfjkrHy4

sfw

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 05:51 PM (MTjB1)

294 TFF = ???

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (j0Oc6)

295 Every year it's the same. Pats in the Super Bowl, Yanks in the Series.

I wanna see the Pats and Yanks play against each other in something sometime. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (eMKNe)

296 No, you idiot...it's about me!

It was about you last time.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (obTcf)

297 You are both wrong!

It is about me.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (obTcf)

298 Every year it's the same. Pats in the Super Bowl, Yanks in the Series.

I must have been in a coma the last few years? When were the Yanks in the World Series?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 05:53 PM (SjImc)

299 I can't get the game, how did the Jugs get that deep ??

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:53 PM (4u7kU)

300 Posted by: colfax mingo at January 21, 2018 05:49 PM (C8LGv)

Jesus.. Glad you were able to overcome it. I have only had pneumonia once. About 20 years ago and it kicked my ass. Took me about 2 months before I felt normal again. The constant fatigue was the worst.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:53 PM (dUJdY)

301 I want to see the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl-only because my bosses brother died unexpectedly in the Fall and he and his brother were both huge Eagles fans.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (8+Ozj)

302 I wanna see the Pats and Yanks play against each other in something sometime. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (eMKNe)

Badminton?
Curling?
Chess?
Four-Square?
Jacks?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (bNbo2)

303 294 TFF = ???
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (j0Oc6)
Too Fucking Funny

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (BtQd4)

304 269 dot dot dash, Toni Basil?

A lot of people don't know how far back she goes. 12 years before "Mickey" was a hit, she was in Easy Rider. Not a joke.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:44 PM (eMKNe)


I was about to point that out. Believe it or not, she was almost 40 when she recorded "Mickey".

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

305 295 Every year it's the same. Pats in the Super Bowl, Yanks in the Series.

I wanna see the Pats and Yanks play against each other in something sometime. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (eMKNe)

Go to the drunk tank, your best bet

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (4u7kU)

306 295: then smod hit at the beginning of that contest. professional stick and ball sports suck muzzie taint.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 05:55 PM (KP5rU)

307 TTFN
Ta Ta For Now
Tigers adidos

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:55 PM (BtQd4)

308 Pats and Yanks in game of soccer

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 05:56 PM (aC6Sd)

309 Crunch time for the Jugs

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:56 PM (4u7kU)

310 It'll probably be a combo of a woman of color and a Hispanic man. Or a transgender and a almost black man. or a faux Indian and a gay booker. Or...

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:57 PM (kufk0)

311 308 Pats and Yanks in game of soccer

*snort. Now that would be hilarious and I might actually pay to see it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 05:57 PM (dUJdY)

312 NANANANA GOOD BYE

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (4u7kU)

313 Weasel, did you get your cigars? Chilly and drizzly outside so I'm enjoying a maduro Mark Twain while trying to keep up.
Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 05:32 PM (wgCUV)
----------
Not yet! I think I will wait a few more days before I get too worried.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (Sfs6o)

314 294 TFF = ???
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (j0Oc6)

That fucking faggot...talking about Hot Air, I assume. Or AllahPundit.

Same thing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (xJa6I)

315 294 TFF = ???
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (j0Oc6)
Too Fucking Funny

LOL = Lots of Love
WTF = Why the Face?
FML = Force Meat Loser

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (bNbo2)

316 Another fun fact about the song Mickey... it was a cover. The original was done by a guy, and he was singing about a girl named Mickey. Hence, the line, "Oh, Mickey, you're so pretty, can't you understand?".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (wSC8T)

317 303 294 TFF = ???
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (j0Oc6)
Too Fucking Funny
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:54 PM (BtQd4)

Oh....um...never mind my comment above, then.

It FELT right...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 05:59 PM (xJa6I)

318 I've never understood the appeal of Biden, but any chance he has is fading as the reflected glory from the Obama legacy wanes.

Their only play seems to be race/class/victimization so I think it will be a Hispanic person. They've "done" black and female, so the next step is Latino (or maybe even Muslim).

I could be wrong. It happened once before.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:00 PM (qJtVm)

319 I don't think they'll go for a transgender. They aren't going to run Bradley/Chelsea Manning on a national ticket. I say Kamala Harris and Cory Booker or Kamala and one of the open borders fans-Castro?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 06:00 PM (8+Ozj)

320 Prothonotary, I did not know that!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:00 PM (eMKNe)

321 1 penalty all game for 10 yards- NE

Gotta love those Zebras, who are all a pure as the driven snow just like me and NBA refs.

Posted by: Tim Donaghy at January 21, 2018 06:00 PM (jeefx)

322 310 It'll probably be a combo of a woman of color and a Hispanic man. Or a transgender and a almost black man. or a faux Indian and a gay booker. Or...
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 05:57 PM (kufk0)
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This sounds like a transporter accident on the Enterprise.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:01 PM (qJtVm)

323 Day #2 Government Shutdown Postings from non resistance.

Ice maker was acting up and had cubes instead of crushed. Old lime for my Titos, but new shipment in stores come Monday. Blossoms on my persian lime tree so fresh limes coming in 4 months, will hold out. As dark approaches I can see the sun set to the west and glow of flames of the grand holy city of our democratic theocracy burned to ground. Allah be praised.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 06:02 PM (BtQd4)

324 That fucking faggot...talking about Hot Air, I assume. Or AllahPundit.

Same thing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (xJa6

It must be disheartening to go to the trouble to post under a pseudonym and no one cares enough to dox you

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:02 PM (4u7kU)

325 321: i have no idea why they went through the motions for this game. should have just gave the trophy to the cheatriots and saved a fuckload of time. glad i quit watching the charade that is the nfl.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (KP5rU)

326 324 That fucking faggot...talking about Hot Air, I assume. Or AllahPundit.

Same thing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 05:58 PM (xJa6

It must be disheartening to go to the trouble to post under a pseudonym and no one cares enough to dox you
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:02 PM (4u7kU)

???

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (xJa6I)

327 The sidebar about the FBI is, sadly, all too believable. Let me guess. Was it a hard disk crash?

Jailtime. Serious jailtime.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (LAe3v)

328 Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 05:51 PM (BtQd4)


that's a quote from a longer piece of BS at the WaPo

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (iJXSP)

329 Yrch. Well. Heading into the Vikings game with that ol' sinkin' feeling.

I might need more booze. or cookies. or both.

and now a fortnight of Tom Brady beejers. Yay NFL.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (bNbo2)

330 This sounds like a transporter accident on the Enterprise.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January






feature, not a bug, that is how you ultimately solve diversity issues, mashups in the transporter room. scotty replaces the heisenberg compensator with the candy land spinning wheel of diversity.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:04 PM (MTjB1)

331 A lot of people don't know how far back she goes. 12 years before "Mickey" was a hit, she was in Easy Rider. Not a joke.
---
I thought you meant the magazine!

But of course not.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:04 PM (qJtVm)

332 Don't like the insta-pot.

Boring.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 21, 2018 06:04 PM (YWtf/)

333 I have no clue who the Dems will choose, but I don't think it'll be a white guy. Unless, they can get a celebrity white guy. Hanks or Clooney or someone. Michael Moore.

But truly...have absolutely no idea. Feels like so much can happen between now and then. Could even be someone Obama is mentoring.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 06:05 PM (obTcf)

334 and now a fortnight of Tom Brady beejers. Yay NFL.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (bNbo2)
---
Inflate-gate!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:05 PM (qJtVm)

335 Weasel. I've got an in with a conservative radio guy in DFW. He also does spots on Fox.

Also have an in with the morning guys.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2018 06:05 PM (nJ+XP)

336 QDPSteve, another song that became a big hit when a woman covered it was "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun". Cyndi Lauper made it a hugely popular girl-power anthem, but it was originally done by a guy as a complaint about the modern dating scene. He wanted to find a nice girl and settle down and get married, but no; they were all just out to have little fun.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 21, 2018 06:05 PM (wSC8T)

337 'Chicken is surprisingly resilient'

We kind of have to be.

Posted by: The chicken at January 21, 2018 06:05 PM (UdKB7)

338 Until Brady calls it a career they are going to be hard to beat,
f'n cheaters

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (aC6Sd)

339 297
You are both wrong!



It is about me.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (obTcf)

Guys! It is about the FUTURE.

Me!

Posted by: It's Chelsea! at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (YWtf/)

340 ???
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (xJa6

AP

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (4u7kU)

341 Chicken is surprisingly resilient'

We kind of have to be.
Posted by: The chicken at January




so chicken is the timex of foods.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (MTjB1)

342 FWI, because its from the GOP, but they say Tom Perez hates his job as DNC chair. They're demoralized and he also hates raising money.

https://gop.com/tom-perez-hates-his-job/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 06:07 PM (8+Ozj)

343 These dark chocolate muffins are good. Mmmm.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:07 PM (qJtVm)

344 338 Until Brady calls it a career they are going to be hard to beat,
f'n cheaters
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (aC6Sd)


They should change their name to the "colluders"

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:07 PM (4u7kU)

345 341 Chicken is surprisingly resilient'

We kind of have to be.
Posted by: The chicken at January




so chicken is the timex of foods.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (MTjB1)

Takes a fuckin' and keeps on cluckin'.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (NWiLs)

346 No, I'm pretty sure Chelsea Handler will never run for public office.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (wSC8T)

347 Way behind but Mrs Mingo is a lucky woman. I'd love to have a man wanting to impress me with food. Oh well, I get bye OK.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (84F5k)

348 340 ???
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (xJa6

AP
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (4u7kU)

Ah, I thought AllahPundit did get doxed once, years ago.

I'm fine with letting folks keep their screen names personally. So never really looked into him.

Oy...AP sure gone weird over the years. I miss the Malkin days there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (xJa6I)

349 wasn't someone building the largest ever colluder down south somewhere? had something like a 50 mile diameter? what happened to that?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)

350 343 These dark chocolate muffins are good. Mmmm.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:07 PM (qJtVm)

Dat dey be

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (4u7kU)

351 Next year someone should fly a banner over the women's march that says "go make me a sammich". They deserved to be trolled.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (obTcf)

352 pro wrestling is more honest and aboveboard than the NFL...

which is why i stopped watching several years ago, with herself joining me a year later... long before ignoring them became hip.

interesting tid bit: the local grocery stores has NFL ream symbols, that they've been selling all season long, in the discount rack.

even here in uber blue Lost Angels, their crap isn't selling.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (iJXSP)

353 348 340 ???
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (xJa6

AP
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (4u7kU)

Ah, I thought AllahPundit did get doxed once, years ago.

I'm fine with letting folks keep their screen names personally. So never really looked into him.

Oy...AP sure gone weird over the years. I miss the Malkin days there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (xJa6I)

The only thing that didn't go to shit after she sold it was Twitchy.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

354 Might have to get Kodiak cakes chocolate flavor mix

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (aC6Sd)

355 it will be an east coat lefty super bowl. roger decreed it, so let it be done. glad i quit watching that make believe shitshow.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (KP5rU)

356 349 wasn't someone building the largest ever colluder down south somewhere? had something like a 50 mile diameter? what happened to that?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)

They were gonna make it run on bullshit but DC ran out of bullshit.

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:10 PM (4u7kU)

357 Was that "Where's my dinner?" over the Womens March actually a photoshop? It look like it. It's funny though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 06:10 PM (8+Ozj)

358 All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes Is on fire! Cracking up over here.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (obTcf)

359 349 wasn't someone building the largest ever colluder down south somewhere? had something like a 50 mile diameter? what happened to that?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)

The Large Hadron Colluder? It's in Macedonia, next to the content farm.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (NWiLs)

360 Prothonotary, didn't know that either. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (eMKNe)

361 My new glasses have Timex frames. I didn't know Timex made glasses frames.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (sdi6R)

362 353 348 340 ???
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:03 PM (xJa6

AP
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (4u7kU)

Ah, I thought AllahPundit did get doxed once, years ago.

I'm fine with letting folks keep their screen names personally. So never really looked into him.

Oy...AP sure gone weird over the years. I miss the Malkin days there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:08 PM (xJa6I)

The only thing that didn't go to shit after she sold it was Twitchy.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

yeah, but good on her for making stuff people want to buy. I just wish she was still running the store, is all.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (xJa6I)

363 HATE that song-"Girls Just Wanna have Fun." It's on my list of most execrable pop tunes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 06:12 PM (8+Ozj)

364 You are both wrong!



It is about me.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 21, 2018 05:52 PM (obTcf)
Guys! It is about the FUTURE.

Me!

Posted by: It's Chelsea! at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (YWtf/)



Once you go black, you can't go back.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at January 21, 2018 06:12 PM (WbIyz)

365 dotsndashes, The Collider is an abandoned project about 30 miles from me.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2018 06:13 PM (nJ+XP)

366 Ah, I thought AllahPundit did get doxed once, years ago.


Even worse
Write under a pseudonym, get doxed, no one gives a shit, continue to write under pseudonym.
Father must be proud

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:13 PM (4u7kU)

367 yeah, but good on her for making stuff people want to buy. I just wish she was still running the store, is all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 21, 2018 06:11 PM (xJa6I)

So do I. Malkin has ten times the balls of AP and Poppin' Fresh.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)

368 Chronic wasting disease - or "zombie deer disease"- was first observed in 1967 in Fort Collins, Colorado, and has since infected wild herds in 24 states and Canada, as well as in South Korea and Norway, NPR reported.

Posted by: SMOD at January 21, 2018 06:13 PM (e8kgV)

369 361; little known fact, timex builds the chevy volt. with slave labor, no less.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:14 PM (KP5rU)

370
238 Just smashed my second mosquito this afternoon.

So much for cold killing the insects. It was 5 degrees 15 days ago.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 05:34 PM



Yeah, me too. Two 11 degree nights in a row.

Little fricken blood suckers survive, just fine, in Alaska.

So, there's that...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (4DCSq)

371 Ever have a weekend wear you told yourself you'd go with small lo-carb meals and you'd exercise, and instead you engaged in an extended orgy of carbs and sloth?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (qJtVm)

372 Is this the football thread? Why yes, it is. Patriots pull it outta their ass! I listened on da radio. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

Posted by: Monkfish at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (a1s18)

373 Chavez: yup. The Volt goes a-truckin' and keeps on suckin'. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (eMKNe)

374 I would have watched the Super Bowl if Jacksonville was in it. Not now.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (/FL4O)

375 Almost game time

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:17 PM (aC6Sd)

376 Just smashed my second mosquito this afternoon.

So much for cold killing the insects. It was 5 degrees 15 days ago.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January




stagnant water is stagnant water whether it is in your kitchen, bathroom, or pond.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:17 PM (MTjB1)

377 All Hail Eris: Welcome to my Weekend!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:17 PM (eMKNe)

378 Patriots pull it outta their ass!

Seems more that it was out of the refs' ass.

Glad I didn't watch the Three Card Monte.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 06:17 PM (6FqZa)

379 Is it only me> I don't want that scrunt Mrs Lindsey anywhere near any "Bipartisian" talks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2018 06:18 PM (SjImc)

380 Welcome to my Weekend!
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:17 PM (eMKNe)
---
Have a chocolate muffin! They're high protein! They go great with IPAs.

*stuffs face with beer and chocolate*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (qJtVm)

381 Ever have a weekend wear you told yourself you'd go with small lo-carb meals and you'd exercise, and instead you engaged in an extended orgy of carbs and sloth?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (qJtVm)


2001-Jan. 2018

BUT, only those years.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (obTcf)

382 Chronic wasting disease - or "zombie deer disease"- was first observed in 1967 in Fort Collins, Colorado, and has since infected wild herds in 24 states

Sure the deer didn't just break into one of the state's "special farms" ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (6FqZa)

383 Temperature probes are for women

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (4u7kU)

384 Ever have a weekend wear you told yourself you'd go with small lo-carb meals and you'd exercise, and instead you engaged in an extended orgy of carbs and sloth?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January




you should stop right before the "of."

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)

385 "Patriots win the coin toss and get two bonus touchdowns!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (eMKNe)

386 **porking out with All Hail Eris**

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:19 PM (eMKNe)

387 should you decide to keep piles of spare tires in your house you have to make sure they do not get filled up with water.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:20 PM (MTjB1)

388 378: i didn't watch, but i'm sure vince mcmahon is laughing his ass off right now. "everybody said we were fake!"

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:20 PM (KP5rU)

389 Oh lordy some kook at the femmy march had a sign that said Trump ruined Diet Coke for all of them. That is so great.

Posted by: freaked at January 21, 2018 06:20 PM (UdKB7)

390 should you decide to keep piles of spare tires in your house you have to make sure they do not get filled up with water

Also a good tip for your sexbot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:21 PM (eMKNe)

391
Something seems different.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:21 PM (0zeTt)

392 What America really needs right now, in fact, is the Sexbot Football League.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 06:21 PM (eMKNe)

393 Ooh, Pats haters need a safe place.

Posted by: Monkfish at January 21, 2018 06:21 PM (a1s18)

394 should you decide to keep piles of spare tires in your house you have to make sure they do not get filled up with water

Also a good tip for your sexbot.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January




lol

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:21 PM (MTjB1)

395
Pork Belly!
Posted by: Grump928(C)


Hare Lip!

Posted by: Wood eye at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (IqV8l)

396 thought chronic wasting disease was first discovered in washington d.c.?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (KP5rU)

397
Was there always a black border around the comment boxes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (0zeTt)

398 365 dotsndashes, The Collider is an abandoned project about 30 miles from me.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2018 06:13 PM (nJ+XP)

The collider project actually was moved down to Houston and renamed the Sam Houston Freeway

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (4u7kU)

399 you know, the pats logo would make an interesting hatchet.




Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:23 PM (MTjB1)

400 'What America really needs right now, in fact, is the Sexbot Football League.'

That would give a new meaning to "penetrating the defence".

Posted by: freaked at January 21, 2018 06:23 PM (UdKB7)

401 397
Was there always a black border around the comment boxes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (0zeTt)

Black Lines Matter ??

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:23 PM (4u7kU)

402 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (0zeTt)

Umm.. yes?

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (dUJdY)

403 Your not going to believe this:

FBI "mistakenly" destroyed five months of text messages between Strok and Page.

The Department wants to bring to your attention that the FBI's technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page," Stephen Boyd, the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs at the Justice Department, wrote to Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of HSGAC.

The FBI/DOJ is irrevocably corrupt.

Posted by: WisRich at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (OAlmw)

404 Ever have a weekend wear you told yourself you'd go with small lo-carb meals and you'd exercise, and instead you engaged in an extended orgy of carbs and sloth?
---
Only 52 a year

Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (kufk0)

405 Was there always a black border around the comment boxes?

Are you seeing one now?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (WbIyz)

406 393; not me, i hate the pats everywhere. elite fucking assholes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (KP5rU)

407 Was there always a black border around the comment boxes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January





the border in not black, the black is all the text trying to escape the grey box.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (MTjB1)

408 Go back to archives and see

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 06:25 PM (aC6Sd)

409 I like it when everything turns gray. Then black lines matter.

Posted by: freaked at January 21, 2018 06:25 PM (UdKB7)

410 Tan Lines Matter!

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 21, 2018 06:25 PM (jeefx)

411 403 Your not going to believe this:

FBI "mistakenly" destroyed five months of text messages between Strok and Page.

The Department wants to bring to your attention that the FBI's technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page," Stephen Boyd, the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs at the Justice Department, wrote to Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of HSGAC.

The FBI/DOJ is irrevocably corrupt.
Posted by: WisRich at January 21, 2018 06:24 PM (OAlmw)

That's no mistake or accident.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:26 PM (NWiLs)

412 should you decide to keep piles of spare tires in your house you have to make sure they do not get filled up with water.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:20 PM (MTjB1)
---

pro tip: don't let them catch on fire either.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:26 PM (xsabZ)

413
FBI "mistakenly" destroyed five months of text messages between Strok and Page.

==

oops!

Posted by: Fracking Butterfingered Idiots at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (hMwEB)

414 412 should you decide to keep piles of spare tires in your house you have to make sure they do not get filled up with water.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:20 PM (MTjB1)
---

pro tip: don't let them catch on fire either.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 21, 2018 06:26 PM (xsabZ)

It's tradition to burn at least one tire on Earth Day.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (NWiLs)

415 NOOD.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (dUJdY)

416 sock off

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (hMwEB)

417 FBI "mistakenly" destroyed five months of text messages between Strok and Page. >>>

If Wray does not start kicking ass, soon, PDT should try again on an FBI director.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 06:27 PM (AMIL/)

418 It's tradition to burn at least one tire on Earth Day.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January




the yule steelbelted radial?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 06:28 PM (MTjB1)

419 That's no mistake or accident.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 06:26 PM (NWiLs)
---
why haven't they asked me for them?

Posted by: Bob from he NSA at January 21, 2018 06:28 PM (xsabZ)

420 97
Was there always a black border around the comment boxes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 06:22 PM (0zeTt)

Black Lines Matter ??
Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2018 06:23 PM (4u7kU)

Note the times. And the nic.

Faster than a ray of light.

I love the HQ.

Posted by: golfman - sans apostrophes and quotes until the next update at January 21, 2018 06:28 PM (1ubE4)

421 The dims need to adjust their message as they are beginning to lag in the polls.Too much impeachment cowbell

Posted by: sofa saver at January 21, 2018 06:29 PM (4u7kU)

422 Back to the food thread.

I bought a bottle of Wigle's Ginever awhile ago. It has a pretty strong flavor. I tried it in a martini but didn't like it. But it makes a kickass gin & tonic.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 06:35 PM (sdi6R)

423 Sorry, y'all know I never miss a food thread but my boyz were playing today. And, after about 12 heart attacks and several crying jags (pun intended), we're goin' to the show. Again. Major kudos to the Jags, though. This might have been the toughest team the Pats ever beat, anywhere, ever. They were fierce.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2018 06:40 PM (14URa)

424
This might have been the toughest team the Pats ever beat, anywhere, ever. They were fierce.

Posted by: Peaches


Happy to help you!

Posted by: NFL Referees at January 21, 2018 06:48 PM (SFHlC)

425
Run Roh!

Did I get banned?!?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 21, 2018 06:52 PM (4DCSq)

426
OK, guess not...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 21, 2018 06:54 PM (4DCSq)

427 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:16 PM (qJtVm)

Just all of them.

Posted by: April at January 21, 2018 07:01 PM (e8PP1)

428 Well, I did exercise, at least, but I had croissants and tortilla chips.

Posted by: April at January 21, 2018 07:02 PM (e8PP1)

In All Of The Excitement I Forgot..........

15b7e79e61f623bffa61915350b42f07.jpg


***


Remember, it was you and I creating the "vast right conspiracy" that caused this man and this woman so much pain and heartache.


I had always known the Democratic Party to be an immoral apparatchik. The failure of one cabinet member to resign because of his pig like behavior adultery was proof positive they cared nothing for the country or their respect for the office of the presidency.


cuban.jpg

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 02:00 PM




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1 Wow

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 01:56 PM (nisXv)

2 That hasn't happened in a long time. Hi MisHum! I'
ll go get them.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 01:56 PM (nisXv)

3 Interns or cigars?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:57 PM (aC6Sd)

4
I get more action than she did.

Posted by: The Chicken at January 21, 2018 01:59 PM (Xr58H)

5

Come on here, dear boy, have a cigar
You're gonna go far, fly high
You're never gonna die, you're gonna make it if you try;
They're gonna love you

Well I've always had a deep respect
And I mean that most sincerely
The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 01:59 PM (IqV8l)

6 Too bad she didn't swallow. Just spit it out on her dress.

Posted by: redenzo at January 21, 2018 02:00 PM (14qvS)

7 I've been looking at the Drudge image with President Trump speaking at a podium with Senate and House leaders behind him. While McConnell doesn't look like a ball of fire, Chuck looks like hell, not like a winner. Paul Ryan looks like he drew the right card for an inside straight. N. Pelosi is high.

Posted by: mrp at January 21, 2018 02:02 PM (Pqytn)

8 This cigar smells like smelt.

Posted by: BJ Clinton at January 21, 2018 02:03 PM (3BFzK)

9 Leftists as a whole don't care about what they preach about, its all controlling the masses and using them as their hammer to get their power.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 02:03 PM (aC6Sd)

10
Is it now possible to "bitcoin a phrase?"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:04 PM (0zeTt)

11 Who do I have to blow to get an autographed card from the President??

Posted by: monica, early 1990s at January 21, 2018 02:05 PM (6FqZa)

12 Is it now possible to "bitcoin a phrase?"


Sure is just costs you 10,000 times more.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 21, 2018 02:05 PM (3BFzK)

13 10. It's called meme-farming. Rare Pepes still fetch the highest rates.
All settlements are made in kekels, of course.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (fA1SL)

14 at some point I got to go out and shovel the global warming off my walk.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (6FqZa)

15
How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?


oh, right, because the Republicans were even a worse choice for voters

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (0zeTt)

16 The hypocrisy of the Democrats is overwhelming but completely predictable.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 02:07 PM (NWiLs)

17
How did an Indonesian marxist muslim with fake U.S. citizenship ever become the president of the United States...for two terms?


oh, right, because the Republicans were seen as even worse

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (0zeTt)

18
How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?


"Read my lips..."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (IqV8l)

19 Heard a commercial early on radio how to buy into Bitcoin in your 401, you can turn thousands into millions

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (aC6Sd)

20 The sex, while distasteful, wasn't really the problem.

The same thing we see still happening by the same people is the problem.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (ks6bw)

21 Is it now possible to "bitcoin a phrase?"


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:04 PM (0zeTt)


Sure, if you want to spend the server time computing a nonce.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (2K6fY)

22 Top thirty

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:09 PM (R5lpX)

23 ...Trump is also the Prince of Anti-culture: mindlessly na´ve American boosterism; conspicuous, 1950s-style unapologetic consumption; repetitive and limited vocabulary; fast-food culinary tastes; Queens accent; herky-jerky mannerisms; ostentatious dress; bulging appearance; poorly disguised facial expressions; embracing rather than sneering at middle-class appetites; a lack of subtlety, nuance, and ambiguity.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9senvff

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:09 PM (pCPGh)

24 23. And still, he managed to defeat the entire apparatus that Clinton brought to bear.

Theirs is a degenerate 'culture,' and they know it. Sad!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:11 PM (fA1SL)

25 "15
How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?


oh, right, because the Republicans were even a worse choice for voters"

Bob Dole begs to differ. I may have lost, but I upheld our parties principles. Plus, I got to star in some sweet commercials and get discount boner medication!

Posted by: Bob Dole at January 21, 2018 02:11 PM (fdbiW)

26 Working at cleaning up my shop. Unfortunately, it's so small that it is almost a hopeless cause. Am finding stuff I forgot about having though.

Anyone in the trades knows what I'm talking about. It costs more in man hours to hunt for something you know you have, but can't find. So it is cheaper to go out and buy another.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:11 PM (R5lpX)

27 Willowed:

201 This needs wider dissemination: troops-go-without-pay-pelosi-treats-house-dems-taxpayer-funded-dinner-party

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yczyntvl

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 02:12 PM (hyuyC)

28 Oh, and something I recently learned thanks to reading a book to my kids at bedtime:

Bo, the dog that Kennedy gave to Barack Obama and Barack Obama named "Bo," short for "Barack Obama," came from another home and already had a name before Barack Obama named him B.O.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 02:12 PM (ks6bw)

29 26. Embrace the wonders of 5S. It simplified and improved my shop and my life.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (fA1SL)

30 "I have seen many penises," said the comedienne Elayne Boosler. "I can tell you honestly - steel-trap memory and observer of detail that I am paid to be - that I could not pick one of them out of a line-up. And yet Jones states that she was there for a mere second, that she was not interested, but she has already designed drapes to go with the thing.".......

Elayne had to retire from comedy--she lost her sense of humidor.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (Ndje9)

31 Skillz, I'm not seeing a problem there. But, I'm a deplorable so there's that.

Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (wgCUV)

32 Speaking of cigars, I need to find a humidor. Got a couple of Acid cigars sitting in a baggie.

Posted by: Deplorable Fedreral Employee at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (iiixZ)

33 . Embrace the wonders of 5S. It simplified and improved my shop and my life.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (fA1SL)

Excuse my ignorance, but huh?

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:14 PM (R5lpX)

34 Bill Clinton, alleged rapist, will never again have access to White House Interns.

Posted by: ALH at January 21, 2018 02:14 PM (7DwnJ)

35 oh, right, because the Republicans were seen as even worse
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:08 PM (0zeTt)


I was listening to a lecture by a couple of Venezuelan economists who were talking about the history of Venezuela. For the 50 years prior to Chavez, the control of the government was ping-ponged between the Christian-Democrat and the Social-Democrat parties with nothing to show of it other than loss of freedom, economic failures, inflation and corruption.
Chavez was an outsider who was perceived as a new breath who would break the cycle of stupid and corruption, and bring a new era to Venezuela.

Of course, once Chavez was in power new breath he brought was to go full socialist in partnership with Cuba.

WE ARE SO FREAKING LUCKY THIS TIME!

Bernie was the Chavez in the 2016 US elections

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 02:15 PM (2K6fY)

36 15
How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?


oh, right, because the Republicans were even a worse choice for voters
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (0zeTt)

Ross Perot and the Reform party split the vote, I think he realized he could win and it scared him and he went to pieces. I remember my old neighborhood had a Reform party meeting and it was packed.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 02:15 PM (dKiJG)

37 Gotta love a good Cohiba though.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2018 02:15 PM (0tfLf)

38 ...Trump is also the Prince of Anti-culture: mindlessly naive American boosterism; conspicuous, 1950s-style unapologetic consumption; repetitive and limited vocabulary; fast-food culinary tastes; Queens accent; herky-jerky mannerisms; ostentatious dress; bulging appearance; poorly disguised facial expressions; embracing rather than sneering at middle-class appetites; a lack of subtlety, nuance, and ambiguity.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9senvff
Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:09 PM (pCPGh)

And this was in an article that PRAISES Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:15 PM (7uYFy)

39 Skillz, I'm not seeing a problem there. But, I'm a deplorable so there's that.

Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 02:13 PM (wgCUV)


Dood, click the link and the deplorability will become self-evident.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:16 PM (pCPGh)

40 33. At it's simplest, it's a system of visual organization of your workspace.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5S_(methodology)

You can go nuts with it, but there's enough there for anyone to work with.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:16 PM (fA1SL)

41 Excuse my ignorance, but huh?

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:14 PM (R5lpX)

==================
I looked it up with a search engine. It's Japanese system for organizing things.

Posted by: mrp at January 21, 2018 02:16 PM (Pqytn)

42 Tell us more of the embraceable 58.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:17 PM (pCPGh)

43 There's nothing shameful about the Democrat affinity for cigars!

Why, I myself have an overpowering urge to grab a handful of those beauties.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (/qEW2)

44

Hhmm, National Review - to read or not to read, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to endure the slings and arrows of insult or ignore the mess entirely. Ah, if only I could sleep. To sleep, and awaken to a Brave New World. That I would do.

Best then if I have another beer.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (GroCc)

45 28 Oh, and something I recently learned thanks to reading a book to my kids at bedtime:

Bo, the dog that Kennedy gave to Barack Obama and Barack Obama named "Bo," short for "Barack Obama," came from another home and already had a name before Barack Obama named him B.O.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 02:12 PM (ks6bw)

Kennedy being a piece of shit Loved Water Dogs and thought it was funny.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (dKiJG)

46 How little did the dopey Democrats at this time realize that their excuse-making for Clinton would be the VERY thing that keeps "pussygate" and "porn stars for hire" from doing damage to Trump.
They STILL haven't gotten it.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (7uYFy)

47 Clenis should have been impeached solely for thinking that pig looked hot in a thong. She flashed him and the normal male reaction would be to stab your eyes out.

It is astounding to realize that Clenis ran for office primarily for the pussy.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (bsdd3)

48 As an illegal black muslim tranny, I can kill people and be Scott free. Hell, I might even get a book deal and millions of dollars.

-
Burn, baby, burn!

http://bit.ly/2BikYAM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

49 Really gave cigar smoking a bad name. Its an enjoyable habit too! (Cigars, not interns)

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (prxs+)

50 A really good cigar is on my agenda for later today. It's still morning in Robber's Roost. Clinton liked Cuban cigars, my tastes are much more simpler. Also a lot cheaper. Cuba has the legends of good cigars but the ones from Central America and DR are overall much better.
Speaking of which, Weasel, did your shipment come in yet?
Asking from jealousy.

Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (wgCUV)

51 43. Now that is funny.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (0tfLf)

52 I looked it up with a search engine. It's Japanese system for organizing things.

Posted by: mrp


Clicked that, it's for Japanese and other obsessive compulsives.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:22 PM (pCPGh)

53
Hhmm, National Review - to read or not to read, that is the question.




I heard Kevin Williamson on a local radio show last week. What an obnoxious, smug twat. No matter what Trump does it's bad. Even speaking at the March for Life, Williamson is "suspicious of anyone who has that late in life conversion". Because sticking with the Bill Kristol wing of the party has led to so much success.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 02:22 PM (SiINZ)

54 How little did the dopey Democrats at this time
realize that their excuse-making for Clinton would be the VERY thing
that keeps "pussygate" and "porn stars for hire" from doing damage to
Trump.

They STILL haven't gotten it.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (7uYFy)

===========================
That's because they're socialists. Socialists are very much a people of the "present". The "past" was last week and the "future" will be determined by situational ethics analysis. And the WashPostNYT oped pages.

Posted by: mrp at January 21, 2018 02:22 PM (Pqytn)

55 Bill Clinton's legacy is Donald Trump.

Posted by: Jmel at January 21, 2018 02:22 PM (KyLCH)

56 You can go nuts with it, but there's enough there for anyone to work with.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:16 PM (fA1SL)

Truth be told, I have too much crap. I could be accused of being a hoarder. 40 years as a carpenter and I hate throwing anything away. You know...the I can always use that somewhere.

Besides all the power tools and shop tools, I also collect antique woodworking tools, planes, saws and chisels, ect.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:23 PM (R5lpX)

57 Hhmm, National Review - to read or not to read, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to endure the slings and arrows of insult or ignore the mess entirely. Ah, if only I could sleep. To sleep, and awaken to a Brave New World. That I would do.

Best then if I have another beer.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 02:18 PM (GroCc)

It's Victor Davis Hanson.
Go ahead, read it.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:23 PM (7uYFy)

58
Hhmm, National Review - to read or not to read, that is the question.

It's safe.
Victor Davis Hanson

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 02:23 PM (IqV8l)

59 Greetings:

Apparently, nobody reads or teaches Conrad's "Lord Jim" anymore.

Posted by: 11B40 at January 21, 2018 02:24 PM (evgyj)

60 It's just about sex.

She threw herself at him.

"I did not have sex, with that woman. Miss Lewinsky."

It's a private matter between consenting adults.

You're a prude.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 21, 2018 02:24 PM (EZebt)

61 .Trump is also the Prince of Anti-culture: mindlessly naive American boosterism; conspicuous, 1950s-style unapologetic consumption; repetitive and limited vocabulary; fast-food culinary tastes; Queens accent; herky-jerky mannerisms; ostentatious dress; bulging appearance; poorly disguised facial expressions; embracing rather than sneering at middle-class appetites; a lack of subtlety, nuance, and ambiguity.

-
What if Trump was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:25 PM (+y/Ru)

62
It's Victor Davis Hanson.
Go ahead, read it.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:23 PM

Very well, but I am in a mood.
If Dr. Hanson doesn't tell me what I want to hear, I won't like it.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 02:25 PM (GroCc)

63 All the European leaders have mistresses. We need to be more cosmopolitan, they said.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

64 Kevin DjugashWilliamson? No, thanks.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (6FqZa)

65 It's just about sex.

She threw herself at him.

"I did not have sex, with that woman. Miss Lewinsky."

It's a private matter between consenting adults.

You're a prude.

-
Everybody lies about sex.

Character doesn't matter.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

66 What if Trump was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:25 PM (+y/Ru)

He is. That's why he's so great.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (7uYFy)

67 I had not clicked on the link Skillz. I probably should not try and be humorous.
Seriously though Trump appeals to us because we see in him our own thoughts said out loud. Even as a retiree I watch what I say because the hate comes down like a rock fall.
The democrats need to be hammered constantly with the fact that illegals mean much more to them than citizens.
Drag every corrupt act out and expose it for all to see. Lots of the pussy hat brigade in Seattle yesterday were all about Muslim woman power. No word of protest about FGM or any of those really important parts of the Koran.

Posted by: Winston at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (wgCUV)

68 56. You're a perfect candidate, then. The antiques and such - I'm sure you have them set in a certain order.
I first learned of the idea - before the name - when I came across a machinist's tool cabinet. Its order and placement of tools, its inventory, it was a pure symphony of physical order.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

69 "Very well, but I am in a mood. "


I have a watch that shows the phases of the moon/

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (pCPGh)

70
What if Trump was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?


Gooble gobble we accept him.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (IqV8l)

71 I first learned of the idea - before the name - when
I came across a machinist's tool cabinet. Its order and placement of
tools, its inventory, it was a pure symphony of physical order.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

================================
My OCB meter just pegged..

Posted by: mrp at January 21, 2018 02:28 PM (Pqytn)

72 I hate that 'Devil with a Blue Dress On' song.

Posted by: Hillary at January 21, 2018 02:28 PM (bc2Lc)

73
It's safe.
Victor Davis Hanson

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Until he says something the backers don't like, then it's curtains for him. (See also: Steyn, M., Derbyshire, J.)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 02:28 PM (Ebalp)

74 If it's not raining later on this afternoon a scotch and cigar is the plan. First couple of days above Antarctica temps in weeks. My pool has 6 inches of ice on it.

Posted by: Deplorable Fedreral Employee at January 21, 2018 02:29 PM (iiixZ)

75 Besides all the power tools and shop tools, I also collect antique woodworking tools, planes, saws and chisels, ect.
=====

Don't have a problem with jealousy or envy very often but Roy Underhill and his Woodwright's Shop gets me every time. I couldn't care less about the immaculate power tool environments, but ol'Roy turns me into a ravening jealous sinning idiot. Happy Sunday.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 02:30 PM (MIKMs)

76 Burn, baby, burn!

http://bit.ly/2BikYAM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)


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She was angered by Keith Flynt's white male privilege.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 21, 2018 02:30 PM (/qEW2)

77 An idea for the SOTU. On the day before when all the legislative people have decide if they are boycotting the SOTU, announce that during the speech, it will announce a drawing for one lucky senator/rep wins 50 thousand to their favorite charity.

They must be present to win. Of course, rig the drawing, but see if what pigs waddle in that said they weren't

Posted by: Bruce at January 21, 2018 02:31 PM (8ikIW)

78 Listening to radio while I work today and usual, there is the Sunday show with financial advisers intent on giving advice about protecting my investments, retirement, stock market gains... It is so easy and if only I would call and sign up for their class they could show me how! (First 10 callers are even free.)

I smell a rat. Why do I always think these are the people I need to be protecting my investments from?

Posted by: Ripley at January 21, 2018 02:32 PM (MxEKc)

79 71. Heh. Let's just say that when I got the go-ahead at one of my previous gigs to begin Lean, I went in bigly. Took a week, and a lot of cursing and threats, but by Tengri, my line ran like a watch after that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:32 PM (fA1SL)

80 Pffft, who cares if Lisa Bloom arranged payments via a third party for Trump's accusers to come forward. Those women needed economic stability in exchange for taking such a great risk!


OMFG Trump's lawyer paid Stormy Daniels and she changed her mind about telling her story to InTouch magazine right before the election!!!!


Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 02:33 PM (W+vEI)

81 56. You're a perfect candidate, then. The antiques and such - I'm sure you have them set in a certain order.
I first learned of the idea - before the name - when I came across a machinist's tool cabinet. Its order and placement of tools, its inventory, it was a pure symphony of physical order.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

Maybe when I retire. Right now, I'm always on the road for work and when I get home and clean out my truck, tool bags and boxes just get stacked in the shop. By the way, my current shop is only 8'x11', so there's that.

I really do have too much stuff. I'm tool poor as they say. I need to start taking stuff to either the auction house or habitat for humanity.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:33 PM (R5lpX)

82 How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?

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You are welcome!

Posted by: Ross Perot at January 21, 2018 02:34 PM (3BFzK)

83 I first learned of the idea - before the name - when
I came across a machinist's tool cabinet. Its order and placement of
tools, its inventory, it was a pure symphony of physical order.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM (fA1SL)



And that is what I thought about Kate Moss, and later Kate Upton

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 02:34 PM (2K6fY)

84 I smell a rat. Why do I always think these are the people I need to be protecting my investments from?
Posted by: Ripley

The initial class will teach you nothing you probably don't already know. The rest they charge you for, or want to become your personnel investment counselor.

Posted by: Bruce at January 21, 2018 02:34 PM (8ikIW)

85 71. Heh. Let's just say that when I got the go-ahead
at one of my previous gigs to begin Lean, I went in bigly. Took a week,
and a lot of cursing and threats, but by Tengri, my line ran like a
watch after that.



Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:32 PM (fA1SL)

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I believe! I'm the polar opposite when it comes to organization. I know where everything's at. It just takes me a while to dig it up.

Posted by: mrp at January 21, 2018 02:35 PM (Pqytn)

86 Dr ..Dr... I have this burning sensation in my midtermsection......Aaay deed no haf ceegar relations wid dat moneek in turn...I woz further down the line.

Posted by: saf at January 21, 2018 02:36 PM (cS/ge)

87 Roy Underhill and his Woodwright's Shop gets me every time. I couldn't care less about the immaculate power tool environments, but ol'Roy turns me into a ravening jealous sinning idiot. Happy Sunday.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 02:30 PM (MIKMs)

I think that's a trait shared by any competent woodworker. I also collect carving tools. I have a basic knowledge about how to use all of them and have used my hand tools on a few projects. But lately they're collecting dust as I don't have time.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:37 PM (R5lpX)

88 Radio pitchman disses Ramsey, says he's so plodding don't wait until you are ready to retire to become a millionaire.

Become a millionaire this year with my simple easy method. Sign up for my seminar at the Shyster Hotel.
Hurry! There's only room for a few more listeners.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:38 PM (pCPGh)

89 85. For me, it's a necessity. Memory problems.

I'm not quite at the 'tattoo instructions backwards on various parts of my body & carry a Polaroid camera and sharpie' - but I might get there some day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:38 PM (fA1SL)

90 Heh!

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/955104989310992384

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 02:38 PM (W+vEI)

91 The Democrat Party operates on its own sense of moral courage and decency.

It is, of course, a sham, a veneer over the top of the depraved soul that runs it, the greed, depravity, and hate.

But many people see (or only allow themselves to see) the veneer, and even block their nostrils to the stench.

If they *really* cared about minorities, wouldn't they take a critical look at their policies and the harm they might be causing? But, no, introspection is strictly forbidden, therefore they do *not* care about minorities or the poor or the downtrodden or anyone else.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 02:39 PM (oVJmc)

92 Managing the #schumerShutdown

Secretary of Interior Zinke is personally greeting visitors at Washington DC National monuments.

Here's his twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/SecretaryZinke

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:39 PM (kD8Fh)

93 >>>Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

Hassan said similar attacks happened on "Muslim land" and no one cared if Muslims were hurt. She told police and fire investigators, "You guys are lucky that I don't know how to build a bomb because I would have done that."
...
Court records show no history for Hassan. She was a St. Paul Public Schools student, first enrolling in the district in 2010 at Highland Park Junior High.


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I think we care too much about Muslims being hurt. I would not mind seeing her facing some real hurt, as in Jordanian-pilot-captured-by-ISIS treatment.

If she is undocumented as the last paragraph implies, can we just send her back to Ethiopia?

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 21, 2018 02:39 PM (/qEW2)

94 Gah, Native Indian sock off.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (/qEW2)

95
Blaming Ross Perot for the defeat of 'read my lips' Bush is like blaming Gorden Lightfoot for the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (2FqvZ)

96 daily caller

FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (vChNs)

97 Besides all the power tools and shop tools, I also collect antique woodworking tools, planes, saws and chisels, ect.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:23 PM

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You're a perfect candidate, then. The antiques and such - I'm sure you have them set in a certain order.

I first learned of the idea - before the name - when I came across a
machinist's tool cabinet. Its order and placement of tools, its
inventory, it was a pure symphony of physical order.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:27 PM


Google Duckduckgo "studley's tool chest" for something that will take your breath away.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (DMUuz)

98 I would love to have a couple of Vidmar cabinets but damn...

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (YwGz6)

99
Speaking of Lisa Bloom, there is a new Netflix documentary by Marta Kauffman about how brave Gloria AllRed is.


Kauffman - Another reason is, to be honest, it really pissed me off the way people spoke about Gloria. It really bothered me. Here's this woman who has spent her entire life fighting for justice and if she were a man, people wouldn't say the same things about her. I think they'd say the opposite.



Every time I think about getting Netflix, I read about the lefty shit they're pushing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 02:41 PM (SiINZ)

100 I smell a rat. Why do I always think these are the people I need to be protecting my investments from?
Posted by: Ripley at January 21, 2018 02:32 PM (MxEKc)


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one can make a lot more money selling advice than buying it

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:41 PM (vChNs)

101 96 daily caller

FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (vChNs)

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Apparently this amounts to 18 1/2 minutes worth of text messages.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:42 PM (vChNs)

102 97. Why, when I can look at the yuuuge poster of it over my desk?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:42 PM (fA1SL)

103 studley's tool chest" for something that will take your breath away.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (DMUuz)

I have several woodworking magazines that have featured Studley's tool chest. The latest Popular Woodworking magazine has an article about a guy who built a replica, including making some the tools.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:43 PM (R5lpX)

104 Monica's slippery slope met Bill's cigar and the rest has been downhill ever since.

Old whore chasers never die, they just keep chasing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 02:43 PM (EoRCO)

105 one can make a lot more money selling advice than buying it

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:41 PM (vChNs)

Can I add that to my 9 Step Power Program?

Posted by: Miklos Advisors LLC at January 21, 2018 02:43 PM (zCyNd)

106 Zinke looks like he'd make a great POTUS.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:43 PM (kD8Fh)

107 103. For cabinet makers and the like, their tool cabinets were physical resumes. A customer could examine the quality of tue cabinet and tool chests and see the maker's skill. Quite a good practice.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:44 PM (fA1SL)

108 Sent husband out for one last booze/grocery run before the blizzard hits. We're supposed to get 10-14 inches (yes, yes, TWSS) and 45 mph gusts. Why did we move back up here again???

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 21, 2018 02:44 PM (XKZwp)

109
Dr. Hanson writes like a historian. (Goober voice - "Surprise, Surprise." Sgt Voice, "Shut up Pyle")

Dr. Hanson writes a very good description of what is. I want Nostradamus to tell me what the future will be. I want solutions to the obvious problems.

Since no one can agree on what we need to do to get from where we are to where we want to be, that is going to be a problem. Since no one can agree on where we want to be, that too, is going to be a problem, and since no one can agree on who will lead us to the promise land, I don't see any solutions.

More beer, I'm thinking.



Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 02:44 PM (GroCc)

110

failed to preserve = destroyed evidence

the FBI needs to be purged

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:44 PM (0zeTt)

111 Listening to Wipe out by the Surfaris right now. Exemplifies the condition of my shop, heh. But I'm getting there.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:45 PM (R5lpX)

112 FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents

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There's only so much how-'bout-dem-Redskins you can take.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:45 PM (+y/Ru)

113
Val was Best of Winners for a point and Handsome Dan was Select Dog (Best of Breed going to a physical wreck) for two points toward his Grand Championship at today's Fort Bend KC show.

The cement floor in the new pavilion at the Fort Bend County Fairgrounds was soaked with condensed water, so the rings for today's show were moved to cattle barn, where the dirt floor was nothing but ruts. Terrible conditions for showing all weekend.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 02:46 PM (omGT4)

114 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:42 PM (vChNs)

Did you see the hit job they perpetrated against our Congressman?

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:46 PM (kD8Fh)

115 I really do have too much stuff. I'm tool poor as they say. I need to start taking stuff to either the auction house or habitat for humanity.

Posted by: Traveling Man


Most of my tools are in storage some NIB others, well - a Dyno 1/4" drill and a Porter Cable grinder that's so heavy you must pull the pressure off to keep it from eating through the metal. I would give them to someone who would use them but not one of those donation centers. I don't think the people that really need the items donated get a chance at them.

I've got a thing about my stuff.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:46 PM (pCPGh)

116 https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/955104989310992384

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 02:38 PM (W+vEI)


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I hate McConnell. Harry Reid already changed the rules. But McConnell kicks himself in the balls by changing them back.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 02:48 PM (/qEW2)

117 For cabinet makers and the like, their tool cabinets
were physical resumes. A customer could examine the quality of tue
cabinet and tool chests and see the maker's skill. Quite a good
practice.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:44 PM


One sees something similar with 'industrial' (e.g. pipeline) welders. They build their own welding trucks, usually starting with a flatbed, or just the frame aft of the cab.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 02:48 PM (DMUuz)

118 392 My Rep. Meehan has been targeted by the commies. He settled a harassment case filed by a staffer. He denies wrongdoing, says he followed directions from House legal counsel to settle. He has called on the complainant to break confidentiality so the public can review testimony. She refused.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:49 PM (kD8Fh)

119 117. Huh....smaht!

What works, works. Plus, who doesn't like a customized bit of gear, amd the chance to show off a little?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (fA1SL)

120 "FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents

Posted by: buzzsaw90"

So then, hammers were involved.

Posted by: Ripley at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (MxEKc)

121 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 02:46 PM (omGT4)
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Congrats on the wins! Always interesting learning about your dog show adventures.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (tcwn1)

122 You do have a point. Our local habitat for humanity store prices everything at almost retail. Maybe the Salvation Army then. I don't donate to Goodwill.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (R5lpX)

123 Listening to Wipe out by the Surfaris right now. Exemplifies the condition of my shop, heh. But I'm getting there.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:45 PM


In that case, I do not suggest Tequila by the Champs as next up on the playlist.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (DMUuz)

124 The failure of one cabinet member to resign because of his pig like behavior adultery was proof positive they cared nothing for the country or their respect for the office of the presidency. -MH-


I don't see what the big deal is.

Posted by: Harvey 'Ficus' Weinstein at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (z79tQ)

125 Perot didn't pull any votes from Clinton.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (pCPGh)

126 87 ... Damn, you two had to mention Roy Underhill and his show. I've been drooling over his tools and skill for decades. My woodworking skills are limited but I've acquired some decent planes, chisels, spoke shaves and similar. The satisfaction of using them, when properly tuned, beats any power tool. Although a good table saw is worth its weight in gold.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 02:51 PM (V+03K)

127 114 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:42 PM (vChNs)

Did you see the hit job they perpetrated against our Congressman?
Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:46 PM (kD8Fh)

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I have now. swell...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:52 PM (vChNs)

128 Oh well, break's over. Back to work.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 02:52 PM (R5lpX)

129 How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?


oh, right, because the Republicans were even a worse choice for voters
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (0zeTt)


Or...

Or because there was a third party candidate.
Mea Culpa.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 21, 2018 02:52 PM (z79tQ)

130 The cement floor in the new pavilion at the Fort Bend County Fairgrounds
was soaked with condensed water, so the rings for today's show were
moved to cattle barn, where the dirt floor was nothing but ruts.
Terrible conditions for showing all weekend.
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Since I have always had big (100#) dogs, now that I have my little dog (50#), the vet can't get over when I say 'stack pretty' to let her check him out. It is a handy show convention that should probably be used by everyone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 02:53 PM (MIKMs)

131 120 "FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents

Posted by: buzzsaw90"

So then, hammers were involved.
Posted by: Ripley at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (MxEKc)

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or a cloth

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:53 PM (vChNs)

132 126. When I was in the antiques business, our repair shop's bread & butter was yhe table saw. Realistically, we could do everything by hand, but not without that table saw. It was the heart of the shop.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 02:53 PM (fA1SL)

133 I have now. swell...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:52 PM (vChNs)


Recently I've had issues getting replies back to certain messages related to the Podesta-manufactured town halls Meehan had to face. When I followed up the staff member was confused about why I was not contacted. I think Meehan's office got stung by installed commies.

He has had not one whisper of scandal during his whole career as a prosecutor for the county and then the Feds. I believe him and I hope he stays put.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 02:55 PM (kD8Fh)

134 This cigar tastes like fish!

Posted by: jfalcon@yahoo.com at January 21, 2018 02:56 PM (Q0ToN)

135 The satisfaction of using them, when properly
tuned, beats any power tool. Although a good table saw is worth its
weight in gold. Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 02:51 PM (V+03K)
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I want, I want, a treadle table saw.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 02:57 PM (MIKMs)

136 Perot didn't pull any votes from Clinton.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 02:50 PM (pCPGh)


Perot was the opening round in the nationalist/internationalist battle front. People, gainfully employed -- predominately in manufacturing, knew that either Bush or Clinton would sell their jobs down the river to any nation. For internationalist principlezzz. Or something. Intelligent people, gainfully employed (at that time about 1/3rd of the economy) who knew just what exactly the writing on the wall meant to them ignored party lines.

Advantage: Clinton and the Democrats.

This Is How You Get Trump Factor: Eventually, yes. Took almost twenty years.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 02:58 PM (2FqvZ)

137 BTW, the best book book I've seen on basic use of hand tools is "Hand Tools: Their Ways and Workings" by Aldren Watson. There's a lot to learn in its pages.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 02:58 PM (V+03K)

138 No kneelers in the Pats Jags game.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 02:59 PM (gC2IV)

139
Since I have always had big (100#) dogs, now that I have my little dog (50#), the vet can't get over when I say 'stack pretty' to let her check him out. It is a handy show convention that should probably be used by everyone.

Posted by: mustbequantum


Even Peanut, Ulla and Dutchess - none of whom will ever go to a show - stand quietly for the vet. Credit Her Majesty's training.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 21, 2018 02:59 PM (omGT4)

140 It does suck not having the right tool for a job, next is owning it but not having it with you because you can't carry everything

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:00 PM (aC6Sd)

141 I recently sold the bandsaw, jointer, planer, drill press, and only the tablesaw and miter saws are left. I've enough hand tools to build most anything, some of them antiques, some made by me.

In the big batch of hand planes, my favorite is a 24" double-iron try plane made in Glasgow in 1870 by A. Mathieson and Sons.

Posted by: Git back 2 yur shitholes at January 21, 2018 03:01 PM (Cfpg/)

142 >>>FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents


The IT tech who somehow managed to booger up the default 'backup all' program to 'backup all but these two people's texts' felt so bad about fat fingering a routine automated task he shot (or soon will) himself twice in the back of the head.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 21, 2018 03:01 PM (Eu5eZ)

143 On Friday night, 20/20 devoted the hour to the wacko parents who chained their kids to the bed etc. They hit they-were-home-schooled pretty hard as if that were the cause. Then we have:

School assembly: Sex changes are "perfectly normal"

Yeah, no abuse in public schools at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 03:02 PM (+y/Ru)

144 134 This cigar tastes like fish!
Posted by: jfalcon@yahoo.com at January 21, 2018 02:56 PM (Q0ToN)

Pool table smells of summers eve and Daisy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:02 PM (BtQd4)

145 (or soon will) himself twice in the back of the head.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 21, 2018 03:01 PM (Eu5eZ)

Tell him DO NOT get on a single engine plane in Africa to do missionary work.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:04 PM (BtQd4)

146 141. Things if beauty and utility. Real treasures, meant to be used.

* tips astrakhan *

The old ways are good ones.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 03:04 PM (fA1SL)

147 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 03:02 PM (+y/Ru)

Not to mention all the teachers screwing their underaged students.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 03:05 PM (kD8Fh)

148 137 BTW, the best book book I've seen on basic use of hand tools is "Hand Tools: Their Ways and Workings" by Aldren Watson. There's a lot to learn in its pages.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 02:58 PM (V+03K)

I took real old fashioned shop in the 9th grade. Hand tool dados and rabbits. Had to sharpen our chisels on whet stones. Mr Drew, damn still remember his name.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:06 PM (BtQd4)

149
I think the name, 'New England Patriots' is objectionable to immigrants who do not identify with our nations violent history.

Posted by: Latest Lefty Talking Point at January 21, 2018 03:07 PM (2FqvZ)

150 does suck not having the right tool for a job, next is owning it but not having it with you because you can't carry everything
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:00 PM (aC6Sd)

Yep. At one time when I was working locally, there was almost no job I couldn't do because I had the tools in my truck.

I actually built two built in computer desks with drawers, ect., that covered two walls of the office space using only my circular saw, router and miter saw. I built sleds for my saw and router so that I could get factory cuts on my panels and the rabets and dadoes for shelves and drawers. I was pretty proud of myself because we had contracted one to a shop with all the "right" tools and I beat them by two weeks and about a third of the cost.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 03:07 PM (R5lpX)

151 Pulled out of the garage this morning. Flat tire. Called AAA to come out and put the tiny spare on. Chick driving the tow truck was a doll! Blond haired, blue eyed. Hubby was shocked to say the least. I was like... what? STOP checking her out! lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 21, 2018 03:08 PM (dUJdY)

152 Because Bill Clinton-as a narcissist and con man can be-- is very charming , sound extremely plausible, is not i a stupid man-except for thinking with this little head-and knows how to motivate an audience.

And Ross Perot running didn't help.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 03:09 PM (8+Ozj)

153 In the big batch of hand planes, my favorite is a 24" double-iron try plane made in Glasgow in 1870 by A. Mathieson and Sons.
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Gaaaah! Stop it right now! Forget the old 'more power' jokes, tool envy is a real thing.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 03:10 PM (MIKMs)

154 Hey everybody.

Love this story from Hot Air. Poor baby! (Plus this looks like good news for later this year IMHO.)

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01/21/seems-dnc-chair-really-hates-job/

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:10 PM (eMKNe)

155 Hmmm...

Torpedoes they look like.

Posted by: Gumby at January 21, 2018 03:13 PM (eup66)

156 daily caller

FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (vChNs)



And by failed they mean willingly destroyed any evidence. The FBI needs to shitcanned.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 03:13 PM (SiINZ)

157 I remember the time the wife and I were at a flea market and I saw a Stanley Bedrock plane at what I thought was a steal. I told the wife I was gonna buy it and she said no you're not. I said, but dear, it's a Bedrock! She said, I don't care if Fred Flinstone used the damn thing, you're not getting it!

That was back when money was kind of tight and she wasn't in tune with my tool collecting bug yet.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 03:14 PM (R5lpX)

158 Perot was the opening round in the nationalist/internationalist battle front.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 02:58 PM (2FqvZ)


And Ross Perot running didn't help.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 03:09 PM (8+Ozj)


I agree w/ ATE,WTD.

And a question.

If Trump had not run as a Republican, how many people here (who like what he's doing) would be saying the same thing about him?

Posted by: dDan at January 21, 2018 03:14 PM (hwYmz)

159 And Ross Perot running didn't help.

Attn: GOPe base not responsible for party not listening.

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 03:15 PM (FhXTo)

160 Under the one burning

Posted by: Gumby at January 21, 2018 03:15 PM (eup66)

161 155 & 160. Last photo from the Kursk?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 03:16 PM (fA1SL)

162 Day #2 Late Afternoon Government Shutdown.
Garden Center. Observed for 20 minutes while drinking a Voodoo Ranger IPA (may be last in my lifetime). Traffic quieted and I approached lawn and garden area watching for snipers or just crazed looters in the ferns. Found last years outdoors chair and table set, no price. Negotiated it down to $55 in US American greenbacks rarely seen in this part of US. Got out of store and back to house via back roads, seeing nary a cop or trooper. More from nonresistance on next report. 10-24

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:16 PM (BtQd4)

163 I think the name, 'New England Patriots' is objectionable to immigrants who do not identify with our nations violent history.

-
Why can't they have a nonoffensive name like the Shining Swords of Sharia?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 03:17 PM (+y/Ru)

164 Just saying that Ross Perot helped to split the vote although I thought he made some good points. I was a Democrat and voted for the evil Democrat, not knowing exactly how evil he was at the time-just that he was a horndog.; Hillary might have won had Trump run as an Independent. I'm glad hr dd not.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 03:18 PM (8+Ozj)

165
If I were a young man ...

I would like to see a return to the days of apprenticeships (having read something on the 'net about 10,000 hours being required to achieve mastery of a skill) and end public, government run schools. 'Higher Education' beyond reading and arithmetic should be done by private, for profit, schools.

Public, government schools, are now showing the bad side of government education. They aren't schools as much as day care centers for parents that have to work two jobs to maintain a desired standard of living.

Think, for a moment about Rock Musicians, and how much practice was required to master their abilities. I see on youtube, videos of 5-6 year old drummers, and young teen girls drumming. Parents have to feed and reward that desire.

Modern athletics is another example where the special 1% practice, practice, practice and achieve celebrity fame and fortune.

The rest of us become corporate drones, cogs in a wheel, interchangeable parts putting in our time until retirement.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 03:18 PM (GroCc)

166 161 You are correct.

Posted by: Gumby at January 21, 2018 03:19 PM (eup66)

167 Another old trade with cool hand tools is leather working. I got into a leather shop a bunch of years ago just to learn and picked up a bunch of old Industrial Singer's I cleaned up and got working again. The treadles are my favorites. Those things are built so well, outside of kicking it off a truck on the highway, can't be worn out. I ended up turning half my house into a shop and had a little business making holsters and knife sheath's for awhile. Hard to make a living doing hand work but it was a lot of fun.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:19 PM (nisXv)

168 Here's the difference between the political class and Trump.

Then: Mr president, we know you said no new taxes, but the dems and our party want it. It's just a tiny increase
GHWB: Ok.

Now: Mr president, we know you said no amnesty, but the dems and our party want it. Just a tiny amnesty. We'll get security later.
Trump: Fuck you

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 03:19 PM (gC2IV)

169 95
Blaming Ross Perot for the defeat of 'read my lips' Bush is like blaming Gorden Lightfoot for the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 02:40 PM (2FqvZ)

Ok think Edmund now sing
Oh say can you see by the dawns early light

gotcha

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:20 PM (BtQd4)

170 JOHN EDWARDS 2020

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 03:21 PM (4u7kU)

171 And a question.

If Trump had not run as a Republican, how many people here (who like what he's doing) would be saying the same thing about him?

Posted by: dDan at January 21, 2018 03:14 PM (hwYmz)


Trump had run before -- 2000 if I recall correctly as the Reform Party candidate -- and didn't get too far. They're definitely not Democrats. I think that if you're pro-business and pro-labor simultaneously (which I think he is) there's no chance he could run as a Democrat.

I don't think I'm answering your question.

Posted by: Latest Lefty Talking Point at January 21, 2018 03:21 PM (2FqvZ)

172 168: And as for amnesty, if their native countries are fine upstanding nations, why can't they go back? Shithole was the only reason for them to stay and the donks and the media have cut that lifeline

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:23 PM (5gaNQ)

173 Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:19 PM (nisXv)

Bought my wife an antique Singer treadle sewing machine last year. Oak cabinet with Boxwood rule inlayed across the front of the table. It was the best looking one I've seen in several years and it had a lot of the parts and accessories in the drawers. Got it for a hundred bucks and it still works. Has the belt and everything.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 03:24 PM (R5lpX)

174 Now that were past 100 comments, I have an announcement:

My son and I performed our first engine swap today. It was a fine bonding exercise.

Alright fine, it was only our riding lawn mower (single cylinder 19-horse Briggs and Stratton) and it only took a couple of hours. And it was because we were fucking idiots - we forgot, all throughout the mowing season (Mar-Nov) to check the Goddamn oil and on the fucking *last* mow of the year it blew up. $500 down the drain for $10 of 5W-30 oil.

:facepalm:

Well, anyway, now we get to open up the dead engine and try to rebuild it! Summer project.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 21, 2018 03:24 PM (2kiKp)

175 158: If a dem cut taxes, wanted to enforce immigration law, appoint Gorsuch, and reindustrialize the US, I would be a dem

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:25 PM (5gaNQ)

176 Another old trade with cool hand tools is leather working. I got into a
leather shop a bunch of years ago just to learn and picked up a bunch of
old Industrial Singer's I cleaned up and got working again. The
treadles are my favorites. Those things are built so well, outside of
kicking it off a truck on the highway, can't be worn out.
=====

I really mourn the loss of the treadle Singers. My dad taught all of us how to sew a seam on them -- making rucksacks from old upholstery fabric. Found out that one of my grandmothers knew how to sew and tailor because she was offended that dad did the basic instruction. She didn't cook or sew voluntarily.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 03:25 PM (MIKMs)

177 165
If I were a young man ...

I would like to see a return to the days of apprenticeships (having read something on the 'net about 10,000 hours being required to achieve mastery of a skill) and end public, government run schools.

Higher Education at end of dark ages and beginning of enlightenment borrowed many ideas from trades. A bachelors degree meant you could not marry or take on debt. Master was 7 years for both trades and college.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:26 PM (BtQd4)

178 Bent noodle dick and tubby vs Man's world and Reggie for the win...

Posted by: Tentotwo at January 21, 2018 03:27 PM (yhf6w)

179 173: Lucky her! I bought a treadle table/cabinet and installed a new treadle machine with modern features...but still, lucky her!

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:27 PM (5gaNQ)

180 Perot was the opening round in the nationalist/internationalist battle front.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 02:58 PM (2FqvZ)


And Ross Perot running didn't help.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 03:09 PM (8+Ozj)



======
I agree with both these posts.

I'll never forget Perot said if NAFTA was signed you'd hear "a giant sucking sound" of all the jobs leaving the US.

I think it gave people pause...even non-Perot fans like me. But then people thought...our govt. wouldn't sell us out like that.

Boy, was everbody wrong or what.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:27 PM (obTcf)

181 63 All the European leaders have mistresses. We need to be more cosmopolitan, they said.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

Yes, because shitting on women by objectifying them is so sophisticated.

Pussy hats!!!

Vagina costumes!!!

Oh yeah, women are so empowered by declaring themselves the sum of their lady bits.

**spit**

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 21, 2018 03:29 PM (NXsWM)

182 How many women has Trump raped ????????????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (hqQ+Q)

183 Bought my wife an antique Singer treadle sewing machine last year. Oak
cabinet with Boxwood rule inlayed across the front of the table. It was
the best looking one I've seen in several years and it had a lot of the
parts and accessories in the drawers. Got it for a hundred bucks and it
still works. Has the belt and everything.

Those really are functional pieces of nice furniture to me. Cast iron beasts. There's nothing to wear out on them except the belt and needles.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (nisXv)

184 181: It amazes me that the women who glorified "Sex and the City" are running around in pussy hats claiming martyrdom

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:31 PM (5gaNQ)

185 182 How many women has Trump raped ????????????
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (hqQ+Q)

Just you, dear, and that only in your mind.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 21, 2018 03:31 PM (NXsWM)

186 rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 03:26 PM

I read somewhere on the net where it was said that back in the old days, one could not just move from one village to another. Relocating required the approval of the Mayor of the village you were leaving, and the Mayor of the village you were moving into, and it required the approval of the Guild Masters of both villages.

Thomas Paine's biography I think. He ran away from home because he hated being apprenticed to his father in the corset stay craft. Somehow, he landed a job as a Customs Inspector and was accused of corruption and fled to the New World. The rest, as they say, is history.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 03:31 PM (GroCc)

187 If your aunt had balls.....

Posted by: John Marston at January 21, 2018 03:32 PM (SkuXa)

188 We can blame Perot and BJ all we want but it was HW's, "Read my lips! Fvck you conservatives!" that allowed him to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 03:32 PM (+y/Ru)

189 How many women has Trump raped ????????????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (hqQ+Q)



Don't worry Mary you won't be tagged.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 03:32 PM (pCPGh)

190 I want to make a leather cartridge pouch to go with my musket, just like a over the shoulder a revolutionary war soldier would have. Its a wood box with compartments covered with leather

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:32 PM (aC6Sd)

191 I have few Consews that I used to use making pillows. Never sewn leather but if they can get thru a layer of 17th century tapestry with backing, a layer of old velvet and the welt,they probably could handle leather. Very heavy duty machines. For forty years,I was the only east TX redneck making expensive ass pillows.

PS Don't tell all the sissy boys that bought them from me

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 03:32 PM (4u7kU)

192 Those really are functional pieces of nice furniture to me. Cast iron beasts. There's nothing to wear out on them except the belt and needles.
Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (nisXv)

I had to leave mine behind in WI when we left. Lovely machines, and amazing when you are off the grid. Sew like a dream, and hardly need adjusting.

Now I have a 1959 Singer Slant-O-Matic. The book tells me I am a very modern woman for owning it. Weighs a ton and sews like mad. Lots of stitch shape widgets, lots of stamina. I've had it for about 10 years and have yet to replace anything except the needles.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 21, 2018 03:33 PM (NXsWM)

193 How many women has Trump raped ????????????
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (hqQ+Q)


How many guys have you shagged in the last 30 years Mary?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:34 PM (eMKNe)

194 15,
"How did a filandering goofy jerkoff from Arkansas become the president of the United States for 2 terms?"


As far as the first election in '92 he had luck. In the lead up to the primaries the Dem. heavy hitters took a pass because GHW Bush had a huge approval rating coming off the 1st gulf war. That gave an obscure governor from a small state a chance at the ring. Then when Bush stumbled Clinton seized the chance, helped on by the MSM which hadn't been dethroned yet.

That he and his "lovely wife" are sociopathic liars, that Bill is/was so smooth when he lies, and that the little handgrenade with a bad haircut ran, got them barely past the gate and into office.

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (zOpu5)

195 Gennifer Flowers would have been a better First Lady than Hillary

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (5gaNQ)

196 Yeah, if HW had done that old follow through thing Ross Perquot would have had no entree.

Posted by: Skillz jo Hanson at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (pCPGh)

197 I would like to see a return to the days of apprenticeships



Germany does those. In fact, they said one of the reasons they needed immigrants was bcz those slots were going unfilled (declining birthrates).

Unfortunately, migrants didn't come to Germany with a strong work ethic...or desire to learn. So those apprenticeships began and ended within weeks.

Not sure it has changed since I last checked. Since Merkel and the govt. have been outed as proven liars by the police and the press, and ate in cahoots with Zuckerpucker, I wouldn't be able to parse the truth anyway.

Just another bad outcome of Frau Merkel.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (obTcf)

198 I really mourn the loss of the treadle Singers. My dad taught all of us
how to sew a seam on them -- making rucksacks from old upholstery
fabric. Found out that one of my grandmothers knew how to sew and tailor
because she was offended that dad did the basic instruction. She didn't
cook or sew voluntarily.

After I was well into leather I found out my grandfather came over on the boat as a tailor and actually used the same Singer 31-15 treadle that I have. We also share a birthday, so that was kinda cool.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (nisXv)

199 I'd have loved to have an old Singer treadle, but the new Janome treadle works well and has some extras, so I stopped hunting

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:38 PM (5gaNQ)

200 I don't do enough leather work to require a stitching machine. Awl, two needles, amd a stitching pony work just fine for my needs.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 03:39 PM (fA1SL)

201 who has the SB this year ?? Where I live, Direct TV lets you have 2 out of 3 of ABC, NBC, CBS. And wouldn't know it, the first game I was gonna watch was today's Pat game which is on CBS, which on't get. And don't ask me why, cause I don't know

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 03:39 PM (4u7kU)

202 *are

Not ate

What is my problem lately. Aargh.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:40 PM (obTcf)

203 And as for amnesty, if their native countries are fine upstanding nations, why can't they go back? Shithole was the only reason for them to stay and the donks and the media have cut that lifeline

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:23 PM (5gaNQ)


========

One reason is that their own nations regard them as wretched refuse, filth. They don't want them back. Hence catch-and-release starting to come back as DHS holding cells are over crowding.

Three options for dealing with this. Build bigger prisons or put them in gitmo. Or force them into inhumane crowded situations. Then smuggle them across the Mexican border. They'll think twice about coming back.

Or send the military to airlift them back to their own countries. The justification: when does a country send in its own citizens illegally into your country without the intent to withdraw them if your country objects? When they invade you. I think that justifies a military response.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 03:40 PM (/qEW2)

204 I have penis evny. Some women have men, and they benefit from their penises, and I envy them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:40 PM (cu8/f)

205 Now I'm gonna make some hotdogs.

TO EAT.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:41 PM (cu8/f)

206 I figured on just using a awl and needle to get through the leather.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:42 PM (aC6Sd)

207 203: I have no problem with armed escorts for deportation. And cuffs, don't forget those or they could get aggressive

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 03:43 PM (5gaNQ)

208 Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (obTcf)

I was raised on my German immigrants Grandparents farm. Best experience of my life.

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 03:43 PM (4u7kU)

209 Miley - In the spirt of this thread you are going to grind the meat and stuff it into casings right?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:44 PM (aC6Sd)

210 In my 20s a friend said t me she was going though Menopause.

Before I could figure why that was happening to a 27 year old she said: "A pause between men".

*chuckle*
Never forgot.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:44 PM (obTcf)

211 Hey Miley!

No Costco in your area? Great hotdogs for less money than it takes to buy and make 'em yourself. ;-)

I especially like their polish kielbasa.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:44 PM (eMKNe)

212 Professor Chaos, you should-a told her you were a trained assassin.

"You're an assassin?!" "Yep, I'm always a-sassin' somebody." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (eMKNe)

213 Another frickin typo on my part. Therefore, this is my blanket post that I keep making bonehead typos...and sorry.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (obTcf)

214 190
I want to make a leather cartridge pouch to go with my musket, just like
a over the shoulder a revolutionary war soldier would have. Its a wood
box with compartments covered with leather.

You could try hand sewing. Cheap leather can be had from Tandy and and questions you have about technique you can get answered at this site I used to go to. Used to be very helpful.

http://tinyurl.com/yfy8qfx

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (nisXv)

215 How many guys have you shagged in the last 30 years Mary?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:34 PM (eMKNe)


Just all the people of coler!!!

Racist!

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (kD8Fh)

216 Miley, I can relate to your penis envy. I have vagina envy... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:46 PM (eMKNe)

217 After I was well into leather I found out my grandfather came over on
the boat as a tailor and actually used the same Singer 31-15 treadle
that I have. We also share a birthday, so that was kinda cool.
=====

LOL because a point of pride in my family was that we were 'imported' rather than plain immigrants, as stonemasons. Don't ask me what the difference was, but for turn of the last century, it was apparently a big deal. Dirty Irish, ya know.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 03:46 PM (MIKMs)

218
FBI 'Failed to Preserve' Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents


AKA 'Deleted'

I don't 'preserve' my messages, they stay there until I delete them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 03:46 PM (oVJmc)

219 kallisto, Mary's in Vermont.

I think in that state, Norwegians count as "persons of color." :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:47 PM (eMKNe)

220 Miley, have you tried eharmony? I was a widower with five kids when I did it. If they could find a match for me, they could find a match for anyone.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 03:47 PM (gC2IV)

221 Another frickin typo on my part. Therefore, this is my blanket post that I keep making bonehead typos...and sorry.
Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (obTcf)

No worries. Heck, I don't use my computer anymore. Just use my phone for everything. Between fat thumbs and auto correct, sometimes I wonder how anyone understands what I post.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 03:47 PM (R5lpX)

222
AKA 'Deleted'

more like Destroyed.

As in Destroyed Evidence.

As in Obstructed Justice.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 03:48 PM (0zeTt)

223 I can now predict a Jags/Vikes super bowl and the lowest ratings since 1967.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 03:49 PM (gC2IV)

224 >>Hassan said similar attacks happened on "Muslim land" and no one cared if Muslims were hurt.


Oh, bull sh#t! When - and by whom?

We know the Taliban attacked girls going to school, implemented a policy where they couldn't attend.

We know of the case where Saudi religious police blocked schoolgirls from exiting a burning school because their heads were not covered (better to fry then offend).

We know Boko Haram - translated as "Western education is sacrilege and those who learn by it must be killed" - has been systematically torching Christian schools, slaughtering or kidnapping students.

So please, tell me where the US military has burned muslim schools - and tell me your source. I'm betting she learned this at the local mosque.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 03:50 PM (W+vEI)

225 Patriots have a game on their hands 14-3 Jax.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 03:50 PM (YwGz6)

226 NBC has this year's Super Bowl.

PS: Jaguars up 14-3.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 03:50 PM (AMIL/)

227 Miley - In the spirt of this thread you are going to grind the meat and stuff it into casings right?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:44 PM (aC6Sd)

These come pre-stuffed. I just got here and I'm unsure of this thread's spirit. Is it haunted?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:50 PM (cu8/f)

228 So the Jags are kicking Patriot ass? I don't know as I'm still on strike. Actually, don't tell me because I don't care.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 03:51 PM (R5lpX)

229 You're an assassin?!" "Yep, I'm always a-sassin' somebody." ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:45 PM (eMKNe)


Ha.

My sister will like that. I call her Sassy Pants sometimes. We have a running joke in our family about Pants.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:51 PM (obTcf)

230 Oh, and how about Malala - who's attained worldwide fame because she persisted on attending school after being threatened and shot - by fellow muslims in Pakistan.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 03:51 PM (W+vEI)

231 LOL because a point of pride in my family was that we were 'imported'
rather than plain immigrants, as stonemasons. Don't ask me what the
difference was, but for turn of the last century, it was apparently a
big deal. Dirty Irish, ya know.

I always thought an immigrants trade was entered into the ships' manifest along with the name and address of sponsor, how much money they carried, etc. My grandmother came separately in steerage and was listed as servant. They both loved this country and never went back home, even to visit.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:52 PM (nisXv)

232 Hey Miley!



No Costco in your area? Great hotdogs for less money than it takes to buy and make 'em yourself. ;-)



I especially like their polish kielbasa.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:44 PM (eMKNe)

Ballpark franks, all-beef, $2.99 for 8. I had a hankering.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:52 PM (cu8/f)

233 YouTube "Breaking News" is filled with Democrat talking points and propaganda.Shocking,I know....

Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2018 03:53 PM (LiyEm)

234 I think in that state, Norwegians count as "persons of color." :-P



I forgot to sock Mary who loves all poeple of coler.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 03:54 PM (kD8Fh)

235 Miley, I can relate to your penis envy. I have vagina envy... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 03:46 PM (eMKNe)
I've never heard these words in this order.
Would a pussy hat make you feel better? No? I didn't think so. They're utterly useless.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:54 PM (cu8/f)

236 This is it exactly
http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/60955-napoleonic-cartridge-box/

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 03:54 PM (aC6Sd)

237 We will make this a game. Promise.

Posted by: Zebras on the field at January 21, 2018 03:54 PM (g4lFK)

238 Posted by: Latest Lefty Talking Point at January 21, 2018 03:21 PM (2FqvZ)


I appreciate your response and the thought you put into it. Don't worry about the answer, maybe it can't be answered.

Posted by: dDan at January 21, 2018 03:55 PM (hwYmz)

239 Miley, have you tried eharmony? I was a widower
with five kids when I did it. If they could find a match for me, they
could find a match for anyone.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 21, 2018 03:47 PM (gC2IV)

I appreciate the tip, Duke, but I'd rather look for a prospective mate on a political website. Dating sites are a horror.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 21, 2018 03:56 PM (cu8/f)

240 Now I want Beer Brats. With mustard.

Dammit people. I never get thru these threads without someone mentioning some meat dish I haven't had in forever.

(Not that kind...so zippy shutty.)




Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 21, 2018 03:57 PM (obTcf)

241 Would a pussy hat make you feel better? No? I didn't think so. They're utterly useless.

ANY kind of hat will do in the weather we're having.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 03:57 PM (6FqZa)

242 Potential Horde recruit?

https://gab.ai/bombbelt/posts/18340516

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (DMUuz)

243 I had always known the Democratic Party to be an immoral apparatchik. The failure of one cabinet member to resign because of his pig like behavior adultery was proof positive they cared nothing for the country or their respect for the office of the presidency.


First, I think apparatchik is singular, a person who works for the apparat, so it can't be the party.

Second, whatever. What does adultery have to do with being the nominal head of state and government? Did you like GATT and NAFTA, did you hate Black Hawk Down?

Good and bad presidents have had infidelities and good and bad presidents have been faithful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (fuK7c)

244 165
If I were a young man ...

I would like to see a return to the days of apprenticeships (having read something on the 'net about 10,000 hours being required to achieve mastery of a skill) and end public, government run schools. 'Higher Education' beyond reading and arithmetic should be done by private, for profit, schools.

Public, government schools, are now showing the bad side of government education. They aren't schools as much as day care centers for parents that have to work two jobs to maintain a desired standard of living.

Think, for a moment about Rock Musicians, and how much practice was required to master their abilities. I see on youtube, videos of 5-6 year old drummers, and young teen girls drumming. Parents have to feed and reward that desire.

Modern athletics is another example where the special 1% practice, practice, practice and achieve celebrity fame and fortune.

The rest of us become corporate drones, cogs in a wheel, interchangeable parts putting in our time until retirement.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 03:18 PM (GroCc)

Reporters didn't need a degree now they do and reporting hasn't improved it's gotten worse.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 03:59 PM (dKiJG)

245 236
This is it exactly

http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/60955-napoleonic-cartridge-box/

Two steps ahead of me. Great site with a ton of content.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 04:00 PM (nisXv)

246 Many are having great fun with the idiot Duckworth's stupid ad hominem (Trump got draft deferrments so, somehow, magically, he can't point out that a funding gap may affect military/families). But it's still depressing to see that not a single person, rightly contemptuous of Duckworth's childish, idiotic "point", will even discuss the logical fallacy.


F**k Duckworth's service - it's totally irrelevant. Pretty obvious it's an unserious country, for lots of reasons, but important to note that the utter lack of critical thinking skills is not limited to the racist authoritarians. On the contrary.


Meanwhile, wonder which of the vulnerable Senate Ds will be the first to crack here. Aside from the few who already did, and voted for the CR Friday night.


Dream (hah) scenario: Schumer's dumb gambit collapses in total defeat; WH and the few useful GOP in Congress exploit resulting weakness to go for broke on any DACA deal. Border barrier is critical, but 1/5 of the package that *must* be obtained to neutralize the amnesty.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2018 04:01 PM (QDnY+)

247 Nood - Food

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 04:02 PM (AMIL/)

248 I always thought an immigrants trade was entered into the ships'
manifest along with the name and address of sponsor, how much money they
carried, etc. My grandmother came separately in steerage and was listed
as servant. They both loved this country and never went back home, even
to visit.
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All of any family I know about came through Chicago/Great Lakes so I don't know what the requirements were. I do know that the Scandi side were farmers (hitch the plow up to them; save the horses) but I don't know about the Irish other than they were 'imported' and proud of it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 04:03 PM (MIKMs)

249 Miley, no that hat wouldn't help. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 21, 2018 04:05 PM (eMKNe)

250 223,
"I can now predict a Jags/Vikes super bowl and the lowest ratings since 1967."



That'll be something since there are about 100 million more people in the US than there were then.

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 04:19 PM (zOpu5)

251 6,
"Too bad she didn't swallow. Just spit it out on her dress"



Ah, no, Bill used her like Harvey used the ficus.

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 04:21 PM (zOpu5)

252 I always thought an immigrants trade was entered
into the ships' manifest along with the name and address of sponsor, how
much money they carried, etc. My grandmother came separately in
steerage and was listed as servant. They both loved this country and
never went back home, even to visit.
Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 03:52 PM (nisXv)


My great-grandfather went back to Scotland once. He came over as a laborer and a drayman. He went back to visit after he made a million with a new type of coal tar extraction for analine dye manufacture.
America is a wonderful place.

(don't ask for a loan, WWI 1928 took it all)

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 04:24 PM (2K6fY)

253 Sidebar:

"To coin a word" has never meant "to use a phrase".

Just like "begging the question" has never meant "leaves the question unanswered", or "prompts the question".

If "to coin a phrase" could mean to pass along a phrase as currency (according to market value?)--it's doesn't even make any sense.

It's just people misusing phrases they don't understand and haven't learned. The person who wrote the Bush "coined the word" "WAR", just doesn't know how to use the phrase or even doesn't know how to make a clear point.

Posted by: Axeman at January 21, 2018 04:32 PM (JhE5a)

254 I have six working treadles plus two bases that I will eventually put heads in. I have several electric machines too. I spend time with groups that rescue old machines and make them run again. And I'm taking a class this summer on machine repair. I love my treadles.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 04:40 PM (Lqy/e)

255 I always thought Monica was cute. Too bad she has such appalling taste in men.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 04:41 PM (sdi6R)

256 186 Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 03:31 PM (GroCc)

Ben Franklin came to US after a chandler apprenticeship and after deciding it was not his game liked printing. Came to US to escape another a 7 years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 04:51 PM (BtQd4)

257 Someone mentioned the 10,000 hours thing.

Please check out 'Tina S' on YouTube.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 04:58 PM (kUotE)

258 (45) If'n you hang around Kennedys, basic swimming skills are plus. Even if you are a teetotaling canine.

Posted by: ro-man at January 21, 2018 05:12 PM (RuIsu)

259 Ben Franklin came to US after a chandler apprenticeship and after deciding it was not his game liked printing. Came to US to escape another a 7 years.


Franklin was born in Boston. You must be thinking of someone else.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 05:45 PM (WbIyz)

260 I'd rather do am amateur like Monica rather than a pro like Stormy Daniels ESPECIALLY if I thought the pro looked like my daughter

Posted by: Yeah at January 21, 2018 06:06 PM (X7i0r)

261 STFU, Dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 06:15 PM (WbIyz)

Uncle-Tom Deplorable Still Shackled by White Patriarchy

Or, and this may just be crazy talk, an alternative take on the plight of Black America that takes into account actual, real facts and data.

My take on Trump's first year as an African-American mom and veteran

Now that we’ve arrived at the one-year mark of the Trump presidency, I’ve done some soul-searching regarding my support of the man elected by the American people to lead our nation. As a black woman, a mother and a veteran, am I doing the right thing to continue backing President Trump? Is he really as awful – even evil – as his critics claim? Are his ideas half-baked and dangerous? Is he harming the nation I love?

And what does my support for President Trump say about me? By backing a man so hated by some am I compromising my integrity and values? Can I be pro-Trump and still be a good person?


I don't like the Balkanization of America. One day in the future we will be judged and see ourselves as the content of our characters rather than the color of our skin, or our genitalia. But I fear that for the next generation we will be forced to carve off chunks of the electorate and appeal to them based on those factors. We didn't make the rules, but we need to take advantage of them to be successful.

Anyway, this lady makes some sense. I just wish that she would discard the progressive manipulation of the political landscape that allows them to call into question our integrity and goodness as people if we support President Trump.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Nood.

Oh wait. I may be going it wrong.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:57 AM (KEGIV)

2 Race and gender is what its all about

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM (aC6Sd)

3 1. Look at color of skin on hand
2. Vote accordingly

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (KEGIV)

4 It started as a melting pot but now its every race for themselves and how high up the ladder they can get for victimization. Move off that plantation and you are a outcast.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 12:01 PM (aC6Sd)

5 Should I feel guilty about voting for and supporting someone that the MSM and Leftists (who are fundamentally against everything I believe in) hate irrationally?


Fuck no.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 12:02 PM (/o9Qk)

6 My concern for the feelings of never-Trumpers and the SJW's does not register.

Posted by: Deplorable Fedreral Employee at January 21, 2018 12:02 PM (iiixZ)

7 As a black woman, a mother and a veteran, am I doing the right thing to continue backing President Trump?

That's one way to look at it. Another would be "As an American...."

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

8 HYPE WILLIE
@Cam_Vaughn
That's Fox News facts right there. Like this country, P[lanned ]P[arenthood] had some bad ideas in its inception but have since moved away from them. Now they provide much needed healthcare for women.

-
Ahhhh. Wbat bad ideas were those?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

9 I commend her for looking past all the bullshit and concentrating on the important things...policies. What the man has done is so important.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 12:04 PM (/o9Qk)

10 I hear the phrase "the personal is political" all the time. It's a mantra that gets drummed into people's heads, to the point where so many people are inured with it, they can't dig out of the concept without wondering if they're betraying their class.

Whatever class(es) in which they find themselves. This is, of course, not unintentional. It's what keeps so many decent people caught in the left's web.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 12:04 PM (Pz4pT)

11 From the last thread:

I was thinking about that false alarm in Hawaii and wondering if they will see a bulge in the birth rate 9 months hence due to "missile sex".

Posted by: navybrat at January 21, 2018 12:04 PM (7NKxb)

12 I would like Balkanization without the civil war. This is a bad marriage and we have no kids as an excuse to keep it going.

Or we can be like the old black couple on In Living Color.

After they have one of their vicious drag out fights they end with the catch phrase - But were stilllll married!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (3QAtO)

13 I like the article in spite of that cringe worthy intro paragraph. Good on her for opening going against the flow.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (84F5k)

14 Top twenty

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (R5lpX)

15 OT, but I've been waiting for a new thread.

Looks like there was a rocket launch Saturday night that I completely missed. A private company, Rocket Lab, successfully sent their Electron rocket into orbit from New Zealand carrying three tiny satellites. It was only Electron's second test flight, the first one having failed last May. Not too shabby!

I was dimly aware of their existence, but I had not been paying attention to Rocket Lab or Electron at all. This launch blindsided me. I have spent all morning playing catch-up trying to educate myself.

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Lab

Rocket Lab's own website:
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/

Electron is one of the smallest rockets ever to achieve orbit. It's comparable to the Vanguard rocket from the 1950s, but is more efficient so it has a larger payload capacity.

Here is a good video about small rockets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1bZO16em2c

Electron also employs some advanced technology. The rocket is mostly made of carbon fiber, its Rutherford engine uses electric motors instead of traditional turbopumps, and many parts are 3D printed.

Here is a video made around the time of the first test flight last May, which gives some details about the rocket:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXGfK6keS2Q

Note the size comparison to SpaceX's Falcon 9. Like Falcon 9, Electron also has nine engines on the first stage and one on the second stage. But it looks like a dollhouse version of Falcon 9!

Finally here is the complete webcast from Saturday night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5234BOED8


I am really sorry I missed it. This would have been a fun one to watch live.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (sdi6R)

16 If you're going to have missile sex, first, you'll need a missile.

Posted by: Bob Dole at January 21, 2018 12:06 PM (KEGIV)

17 Then the real question becomes, "what is more important...the safety and prosperity of my family and country? Or the color of my skin?"


Unfortunately, many choose the latter.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 12:06 PM (/o9Qk)

18 Argh. OPENLY going against the flow.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 21, 2018 12:06 PM (84F5k)

19 13 I like the article in spite of that cringe worthy intro paragraph. Good on her for opening going against the flow.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (84F5k)

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She could not point to one single thing that PDT has done that has harmed black people and she has a list as long as her arm of positive things. Yet she's still angst-ridden about her support for him.

Gah. Spare me all the drama.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 12:08 PM (KEGIV)

20 12 I would like Balkanization without the civil war. This is a bad marriage and we have no kids as an excuse to keep it going.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (3QAtO)


I'm more of a Pollyanna: I keep hoping that there will be a cataclysmic event that turns liberals against leftist rubbish. Maybe this intel memo will do the job, or at least start the job.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:09 PM (+RVKP)

21 I remember as a child first discovering about my family's heritage. How excited I was to learn we had come from these other countries. And my parents firmly told me, "We're Americans."

And that is all that matters. Not where we came from. But who we are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:09 PM (2+EWn)

22 Then the real question becomes, "what is more important...the safety and prosperity of my family and country? Or the color of my skin?"


Unfortunately, many choose the latter.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 21, 2018 12:06 PM (/o9Qk)


And there are many white and black folks who think it's rayciss to want to move away from cities. So they stay. And get robbed and raped, then wonder why they feel miserable all the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 12:10 PM (Pz4pT)

23 some AAs are starting to 'get' that their needs are pushed to the back of the line in favor of trannies and gays.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 12:12 PM (UsFoH)

24 Yeah. Good headline on the Fox article. So Trump has been identifying as an African-American mom and veteran for the past year or did he have some sort of operation and no one noticed?

Posted by: WTP at January 21, 2018 12:12 PM (WQfDg)

25 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:09 PM (+RVKP)

I just see the inevitable one step forward two steps back scenario continuing for the long run. Still makes us better than everyone else though so we got that going for us.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 12:13 PM (3QAtO)

26 Well she may be trying to resonate with folks that she wants to persuade Cicero. That was not written for the HQ. In spite of the angst I still rate the entire article as at least a B.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 21, 2018 12:13 PM (84F5k)

27 What was it that that old devil LBJ once said.....

Things that make you go mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 12:13 PM (EoRCO)

28 It's Okay to be American.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:15 PM (4E1nt)

29 I just see the inevitable one step forward two steps back scenario continuing for the long run.
I can't decide if you are correct, or if it's two steps forward and one back, or, on a good day, that the fever of the Obama years is finally breaking, and people will be embarrassed to admit they once bought his nonsense.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 12:15 PM (LAe3v)

30 Trump can continue increasing the GOP's support among black voters by one issue more than any other: school choice.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 21, 2018 12:16 PM (398bZ)

31 15 Looks like there was a rocket launch Saturday night that I completely missed. A private company, Rocket Lab, successfully sent their Electron rocket into orbit from New Zealand carrying three tiny satellites. It was only Electron's second test flight, the first one having failed last May. Not too shabby!

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 12:05 PM (sdi6R)


Nice find! I got a chuckle upon seeing that the name of the flight was, "Still Testing."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 21, 2018 12:16 PM (NL6wI)

32 Content of their character or color of their skin?

I can't decide.

Posted by: The Democratic Party at January 21, 2018 12:16 PM (Ndje9)

33 I remember as a child first discovering about my family's heritage. How excited I was to learn we had come from these other countries. And my parents firmly told me, "We're Americans."

And that is all that matters. Not where we came from. But who we are.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:09 PM (2+EWn)


^^^^^^ this X 1000

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at January 21, 2018 12:16 PM (h7sWp)

34 24 Yeah. Good headline on the Fox article. So Trump has been identifying as an African-American mom and veteran for the past year or did he have some sort of operation and no one noticed?

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Yeah. Trump's second year as an African-American mom and a veteran should be much improved with a year of experience under his belt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 12:17 PM (KEGIV)

35 and if the dreamers get voting rights commie candidates will never have to pretend they like going door to door in the hood, like Chelsea did for her maternal unit.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 12:17 PM (UsFoH)

36 Jen Statsky, a writer and comedian who has written for "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon;" Parks and Recreation" and "Broad City" even tweeted that "if you support Trump you should have your children taken away, etc etc."




And the undesirable parents are sent to the happy fun gulags. And what's etc, etc for or is she doing a Yul Brynner impersonation?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 12:18 PM (SiINZ)

37 Not entirely OT, but take a look at GE's fortunes. Prospering under crony-capitalism for eight years, and now falling apart as the Trump economy takes off.
I'm almost sorry I retired. I may have to get back in the game.
No, forget I said that.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:18 PM (4E1nt)

38 28 It's Okay to be American.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:15 PM (4E1nt)

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*eyeroll*

Posted by: A Hipster Douchebag Driving a Prius With A COEXIST Sticker On The Bumper at January 21, 2018 12:18 PM (KEGIV)

39 America has been Balkinized for the last 15 years not including the overt hatred, scorn, and mockery directed towards the South and Christians by DC, San Fran and other big urban areas along with propagandists of the Entertainment industries and academic institutions.

I've never understood why the South (including Texas) and now recently rural red America puts up with this bull shit.

Posted by: Monk at January 21, 2018 12:19 PM (g4lFK)

40 It has been the two steps back in the military that has me pessimistic. If we can turn that around I will be back on board that we can save the country.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 12:20 PM (3QAtO)

41 What did the Left think would happen when they went down the Identity Politics rabbit hole? They segregated Congress in 1973 and now wish to rule for the benefit of Mexicans.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 21, 2018 12:21 PM (vV/gB)

42 What most cracked me up the other day wigh Sen Booker getting all bent out of shape over what President Trump said of Haiti was what does he have to do with Haiti? But it was all about his solidarity with black Haitians I think.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 12:21 PM (aC6Sd)

43 Like many people who joined me in voting for Donald Trump in 2016, I've attended several of his campaign rallies. I have never been more warmly welcomed. My children had surrogate parents, uncles, aunts and cousins for a night, and were enveloped in the excitement and pride of being an American.




Yet Trump and Trump supporters are all racists and members of the Klan according to the left. We some how have to break the fantasy world the left has created and pushed onto the country via the schools and media

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 12:21 PM (SiINZ)

44 23 some AAs are starting to 'get' that their needs are pushed to the back of the line in favor of trannies and gays.
Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 12:12 PM (UsFoH)

And illegals. Progressive checklist. Use welfare to destroy black families, check. Tear down more public housing than built in last 40 years, check. Create inner city kingdoms of serfs and rules in most major cities, done. Use public education to create voting block and kickback schemes and destroy urban literacy, TADA. Black vote around 93% democrat in the national elections. No reason for Dems to support them and must go after the illegal vote.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 12:21 PM (BtQd4)

45 I am sick to death of "identity" politics, which is just another way of telling people that if they're "authentically" black, Hispanic, female, LGBTWTFBBQ, etc. etc. they MUST vote Democrat.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 12:22 PM (NWiLs)

46 I've never understood why the South (including Texas) and now recently rural red America puts up with this bull shit.
Posted by: Monk at January 21, 2018 12:19 PM (g4lFK)


.....for now....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at January 21, 2018 12:22 PM (h7sWp)

47 42
What most cracked me up the other day wigh Sen Booker getting all bent out of shape over what President Trump said of Haiti


**raises hand** Pardon me, Senator Booker, how many times have you vacationed in Haiti?

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 12:22 PM (LAe3v)

48 GE didn't exactly prosper under Immelt, crony capitalism notwithstanding. In a decade-long rising market its stock price went 40 to 16.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 12:22 PM (KEGIV)

49 I was thinking about that false alarm in Hawaii and wondering if they will see a bulge in the birth rate 9 months hence due to "missile sex".

Posted by: navybrat at January 21, 2018 12:04 PM (7NKxb)


PronHub had some statistics and a graph showing traffic to the site before, during, and after the 'attack warning'. Let's just say from the 'after' spike that many Hawaiians took matters into their own hands.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:23 PM (2FqvZ)

50 "One day in the future we will be judged and see ourselves as the content of our characters rather than the color of our skin, or our genitalia."


I can't wait for the day we are judged on the content of our genitalia.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 21, 2018 12:24 PM (Dp6qK)

51 If your charity involves forcing others to participate even if they do not want to, then is it really charity. And if you require others to acknowledge that your altruistic endeavors are good, aka, virtue signaling, maybe you should examine your intentions a little closer.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 21, 2018 12:24 PM (rdl6o)

52 48
GE didn't exactly prosper under Immelt, crony capitalism
notwithstanding. In a decade-long rising market its stock price went 40
to 16.


Well, if the quality of their top of the line oven (they've now sold off their appliance business) is any indication, it's not hard to understand why. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to build a freakin' oven?

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 12:24 PM (LAe3v)

53 Suppression of views like hers is paramount for the left, which is why Maxine Waters and John Lewis are calling Trump racist every time a mic is in front of them.

And CNN, MSNBC, the AP, WaPo, and the NYT "report" their pronouncements as "news."

Posted by: Git back 2 yur shitholes at January 21, 2018 12:24 PM (Cfpg/)

54 The left must be exposed as having no interest in uniting our country, except as united in submission to their fascist commie state.

The globalist cabal is the other branch of that uniparty, as they see individual liberty (Americanism) as a threat to their open border global cabal.

The US (Americanism) versus Them (NYDC statists) is the real "balkanization", as the connected demand obedience of the serfs.

It would appear the fascists have their tentacles run all the way down to the local gun runner and drug dealer, that has to be linked to the Holder preferred FastnFurious guns. The Chicago Mob (which generated so many like Obama, Ayers) has their structure complete right down to the "ward bosses".

But on the normal person level, blacks, Hispanics, gays ... generally all can work together just fine. The agitators have a big job keeping so many neighborhoods stirred up in some false agitprop.

Using media they have done pretty well at creating the current hysteria. It is demonstrably false and can be broken. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 12:25 PM (otAqJ)

55 I can't wait for the day we are judged on the content of our genitalia.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 21, 2018 12:24 PM (Dp6qK)

-------

You'll need a trampoline to get it all out.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 12:25 PM (KEGIV)

56 Black folks will not like riding in the back of the bus with the rest of the American citizens in favor of illegal invaders.

Posted by: Monk at January 21, 2018 12:25 PM (g4lFK)

57 PronHub had some statistics and a graph showing traffic to the site before, during, and after the 'attack warning'. Let's just say from the 'after' spike that many Hawaiians took matters into their own hands.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:23 PM (2FqvZ)

Well, when you got nobody you make do with what you have at hand, to coin a phrase.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 12:26 PM (NWiLs)

58 The inherent difference between Progressives, who believe that The State is their mother/father/life partner, etc. will inherently put all kinds of emotional baggage into the Leader of the State. That is, they will judge the President by standards of whether he "cares" about them as a father should, embodies the virtues they'd expect to see in a life partner, etc.

We can quibble with their actual analysis of the facts, i.e. how they turn the most mundane things into "OMG Binders full of women-he-gives-children-cancer" etc. But the fundamental difference is that reasonable, non-Progressives don't even try to judge a President as their Virtue Signaler in Chief and substitute Daddy/Mommy/bestest besty ever.

The black woman author who ultimately concludes Trump is not The Devil frames her whole analysis in practical terms, as in whether DJT is doing the right JOB for which he was elected, and concludes in the affirmative. That in itself is a conservative analysis. If we want to change minds once in awhile we might start with that issue to help frame the debate correctly. Basically, you're not looking to marry the guy, but hoping he can do an incredibly important job in the best interests of the country.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 21, 2018 12:28 PM (BsGS1)

59 I am so sick of the "Trump is racist, because he won't import every single person in the whole wide world" bullshit. I have even started to vocally challenge it with proglodytes and the gullible. Trump was never considered racist before he ran for President, then like any GOP he had to be rebranded. I usually finish by asking my opponents (who are often bitching about taxes) if they'd really like to support Pope Francis' army of need that has been infiltrating our nation and contributing poverty.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:28 PM (5gaNQ)

60 The left must be exposed as having no interest in uniting our country, except as united in submission to their fascist commie state.

=============

I would think their support of shutting down the government for illegal aliens is an indication that unity is not their biggest concern.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 21, 2018 12:29 PM (rdl6o)

61 51: Very well stated. Forced "charity" is theft

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:30 PM (5gaNQ)

62 54. I saw a movie about that, I think it was called Blue Collar. About a group of buddies who were umaware of ethnic/racial differences until political actors instigated them.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 12:30 PM (UsFoH)

63 Black vote around 93% democrat in the national elections. No reason for Dems to support them and must go after the illegal vote.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 12:21 PM (BtQd4)


You'd think it would be obvious that the place to be is in the middle, so that the two parties vie for your support. When you're all-in on one side, there's nothing to be gained by either party by pandering to you.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:31 PM (+RVKP)

64 62. And we know who those agitators were, don't we?

Fvcking Belgians. Every time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 12:31 PM (fA1SL)

65 >>I can't wait for the day we are judged on the content of our genitalia.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke

Wouldn't that make you a penis?

Posted by: Aviator at January 21, 2018 12:31 PM (2cuLk)

66
I think that perhaps many older African Americans who had decent jobs and careers that took a nose-dive post Y2k when the Labor Participation Ratio began an almost two decade long free-fall *might* just be advising the next generations to vote *for* jobs.

It's a clear line in the sand between the two parties.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:33 PM (2FqvZ)

67 60. Still subscribe to the theory that the shut down is largely a distraction.

Something big is coming. They know it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 12:33 PM (fA1SL)

68 And really, don't forget how many of us think that people that voted for Hillary! are idiots.

I know that I do. Really, immoral idiots. They've been told a pack of lies about how good Hillary! was, yet anybody who has been alive and aware since 1992 has to question this. They rationalize it by TRUMP IS WORSE! HE'S A NAZI! WORSE THAN HITLER!

I mean really, "The Art of the Deal" is really JUST LIKE "Mein Kamp".

We all fall into the trap of turning our political opposition into The Other.

I sometimes think that Trump is a bit of an as*h*le, but I voted for him with conviction, and sent him a lot of money (for me). And I'd do it again without hesitation.

We don't have to invest our whole lives in politics, our whole being. This is a cultural Marxist trap, that they want us all to fall into. Politics has to become the totality of all that we are, displacing religious beliefs, family, personal friendship, our work or profession, object beliefs of what happens in the world, and on and on.

It's a cancer that can eat us all up.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at January 21, 2018 12:34 PM (S6Pax)

69 Ugh.

While running errands I heard Meet The Press on the radio, when Chuck Todd introduced a segment on the DACA issue like this (paraphrasing): Republicans are/should reconsider DACA because 30 or so of them who are up for re-election in 2018 live in districts with 20+% Hispanics.

Get it? They have to vote for DACA because they have high numbers if Hispanics so that they'll have even more Hispanics in their (and other districts) who must be then catered to even more going forward!.

Cute trick, Chuck. I wish I could believe the Republicans were on to this scam, but I don't think so.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 12:34 PM (W+vEI)

70 Something big is coming. They know it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 12:33 PM (fA1SL)


How I hope that that's true.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:35 PM (+RVKP)

71 @67
I think the shutdown rhetoric started on its own but the Dem leadership is indeed trying to push it now, in significant part, to distract from the imminent release of the classified House Intelligence Committee memo that will implicate Mueller & Co in much more specific terms, and really make the despicable coup attempt even more obvious.

They're just hoping to dominate the news cycle with other drama so their media cronies can run confusing, passive-voice written, bottom-of-the-fold articles on our actual, Constitutional crisis until it becomes "old-news-we've-already-covered-that."

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 21, 2018 12:37 PM (BsGS1)

72 I am so sick of the "Trump is racist, because he won't import every single person in the whole wide world" bullshit. I have even started to vocally challenge it with proglodytes and the gullible.
Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:28 PM (5gaNQ)


My standard line is, "Do you lock your doors at night? Stop doing it, because I want to come into your house and help myself to your food and drink and sleep in your bed. If you refuse me you're the kind of person that doesn't like 'my kind' of people."

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:37 PM (2FqvZ)

73 >>Still subscribe to the theory that the shut down is largely a distraction.



Agreed. They need a big squirrel to distract from what the OIG investigation has netted - already House members who have seen the FISA 702 memo are saying people will/should go to jail, not just lose their jobs.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 21, 2018 12:38 PM (W+vEI)

74 We don't have to invest our whole lives in politics, our whole being. This is a cultural Marxist trap, that they want us all to fall into. Politics has to become the totality of all that we are, displacing religious beliefs, family, personal friendship, our work or profession, object beliefs of what happens in the world, and on and on.

It's a cancer that can eat us all up.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at January 21, 2018 12:34 PM (S6Pax)


We elect a CEO, not a guru, an imam, a priest, a rabbi, a minister, a life coach, a shrink, or whatever. We want someone who makes generally sound decisions in the interests of the nation, who does so in a timely manner and who implements them effectively.

That's it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:38 PM (+RVKP)

75 We don't have to invest our whole lives in politics, our whole being. This is a cultural Marxist trap, that they want us all to fall into. Politics has to become the totality of all that we are, displacing religious beliefs, family, personal friendship, our work or profession, object beliefs of what happens in the world, and on and on.

It's a cancer that can eat us all up.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at January 21, 2018 12:34 PM (S6Pax)


Well said. I have been able to mostly tolerate politics, by not paying attention to it. It manages to seep in anyway. But I live my life as if politics does not inform my choices. I know it affects my life, I'm not stupid. I just don't allow it to consume my thoughts.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 12:38 PM (Pz4pT)

76 Cicero, I think the decline of GE goes back to the departure of Neutron Jack and the subsequent departure of GE from its core mission to manufacture good stuff to its "socially responsible corporate citizen" business plan.
If it can't get its act together in this economy, it deserves to die. Sadly. My dad worked for GE for 45 years.
Back on topic: Upthread it was pointed out that leftists want to be in thrall to their leaders. We only want to have them work for us.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:39 PM (4E1nt)

77 I don't tweet but do a bing search for "Dear Lord, the screams"/twitter....hi-larious

Posted by: tankkiller69 at January 21, 2018 12:39 PM (lQTH7)

78 Trump exploding Lefty heads with this voicemail message heard when calling The White House today:

Thank you for calling the White House. Unfortunately, we cannot answer
your call today, because Congressional Democrats are holding government
funding, including funding for our troops and other national security
priorities, hostage to an unrelated immigration debate. Due to this
obstruction, the government is shut down. In the meantime, you can leave
a comment for the president at www.whitehouse.gov/contact. We look
forward to taking your calls as soon as the government reopens.

Posted by: ShainS at January 21, 2018 12:42 PM (BiLU+)

79 The MFM is in ecstasy over the wymyn's march yesterday. The Chicago "press" is acting like it's the biggest news story ever only because it's just more promotion of the lefty agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 12:43 PM (SiINZ)

80 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at January 21, 2018 12:34 PM (S6Pax)

We elect a CEO, not a guru, an imam, a priest, a rabbi, a minister, a life coach, a shrink, or whatever. We want someone who makes generally sound decisions in the interests of the nation, who does so in a timely manner and who implements them effectively.

That's it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:38 PM (+RVKP)


Why, it's almost as if the effort to destroy and replace the prior sources of culture and morality with politicians was done on purpose.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Pz4pT)

81 64 62. And we know who those agitators were, don't we?

Fvcking Belgians. Every time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 12:31 PM (fA1SL)


"Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards."

Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide at January 21, 2018 12:44 PM (NL6wI)

82 72: I am borrowing that

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:45 PM (5gaNQ)

83 Good headline on the Fox article. So Trump has been identifying as an African-American mom and veteran for the past year or did he have some sort of operation and no one noticed?

-
Is there nothing that man can't do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 12:48 PM (+y/Ru)

84 Trump can be very persuasive one-on-one and when speaking directly to the camera ( so long as he doesn't go too off track) so it's surprising to me why he doesn't make a televised speech directly to the American people laying out just what the Democrats are up to and why he is fighting them. If it's as effective as I think it would be. he would put pressure on the Democrats to explain why they want unlimited numbers of immigrants pouring into the country.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 12:48 PM (7uYFy)

85 I had no idea Trump was a Buffalo soldier.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 12:49 PM (qJtVm)

86 I am borrowing that

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:45 PM (5gaNQ)


Then, if you get lucky... they'll ask, "Your kind of people? What are you?"

You then say ''American''.

Haven't pulled that card yet, but it's in the stack. Waiting.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:50 PM (2FqvZ)

87 84: would it be covered by anyone except Fox?

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:50 PM (5gaNQ)

88 Never let a good distraction go to waste. Hence: Squirrel.
Oh crap....Dennis DeYoung (Lady) on the radio... manhood draining to zero... no strength left to change the station...

Posted by: ro-man at January 21, 2018 12:51 PM (RuIsu)

89 Joef, I think Trump is biding his time, letting the shutdown play against the Dems. I suspect he has a master plan. A yuge one.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:51 PM (4E1nt)

90 I had a "discussion" at work with a prog woman. She was bent out of shape because she believes the "dreamers" will be sent packing. I asked her how many of these people she was willing to host at her house and in general be responsible for.

Crickets.

Posted by: Deplorable Fedreral Employee at January 21, 2018 12:52 PM (iiixZ)

91 Here's the thing: Is it really pointless "otherizing" when the Opposition, for all intents and purposes, really is another culture entirely, one descended from the same roots, but entirely different in so many ways?

I can count at least five or six different cultures in play within the formerly United States. How on God's green earth is that a sustainable dynamic?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 21, 2018 12:52 PM (lLeln)

92 I don't like the Balkanization of America.

Posted by: CBD
________

If America must be Balkanized, let's be Slovenia.

Posted by: FireHorse at January 21, 2018 12:52 PM (y+SdL)

93 What always gets to me is how the Republicans get the blame for being racists when it's the Democrats who always make appeals to the voters on the basis of race.

I know, I know. Rhetorical. But how do you fight this?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 12:52 PM (7uYFy)

94 It's almost as if emotion was guiding our policies out of DC for the last 2 decades or more.

Posted by: Monk at January 21, 2018 12:53 PM (g4lFK)

95 Good morning from Philly where crews from the city are greasing the light poles with Crisco to prevent #Eagles fans from climbing after the #NFCChampionshipGame tonight.

Eagles fans. Stay the hell away from them.

http://bit.ly/2DuBmUZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

96 One day in the future we will be judged and see ourselves as the content
of our characters rather than the color of our skin, or our genitalia.


Never happen.

Posted by: Teh Ghey Mafia at January 21, 2018 12:53 PM (Tyii7)

97 Tribalism is the norm. We're the odd ducks...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 21, 2018 12:54 PM (7LY+6)

98 AoSHQ Prayer List

rickl- Lung cancer.

redc1c4- General Health. Would like to be healthy enough to look for a j*b.

kbdabear- Mother's dementia.

CaliGirl- Mom's boyfriend Arthur has cancer. --(12/26/17)- The gold digger that is elder abusing a friend of ours and making everyone miserable with ridiculous demand letters has claimed her first victim. I'm sad to report the special needs son of the elderly victim was found dead today. I have no idea how he passed. He was in his 50's and had no health problems.

Hrothgar- Lost Son in accident; (1/6/18 ) I'd appreciate Horde prayers for my grandson and granddaughter, both still very devastated by the loss of their father, and I truly fear for their futures. The grandson is in real emotional distress, but the granddaughter seems to be pulling out of it, but I can't really be sure.

Ritabootoo- Passed Friday, December 8th. Prayers for Family and Friends. Frequenter of the Pet Thread and our beloved friend.

Fenelon Spoke- Healing for my son and ability to pay healthcare bills.

RedMindBlueState- Cousin Agnes has passed. Prayers for her friends and Family. If you could add her husband Mel, who has Parkinson's and moved into assisted living now without his wife, to the list, I'd appreciate it.

Dr. Strangepork- Friend may have had a stroke.

Bebe's boobs destroy- Former co-worker's four year-old has cancer.

Mindful webworker- Wife's health due to longstanding issues.

ibguy- Sister's brain cancer, (gioblastoma).

pookysgirl- Husband's suicide attempt and mental health.

Jade Sea- Husband's cancer

Moron Pundit- Father-in-law's heart surgery.

junior- Employment

Duke Lowell- Son in need of healing.

Miley- Future employment, big move, Mother's cellulitis of leg.

Captain Whitebread- Mother's health and stable employment.

Jinx- Mother's passing.

Emmie- Continued relationship with Daughter.

Vic- Return of cancer.

ReneeTX- Terminal brain cancer.

Booknlass- Relationship with Daughter.

Just wondering- My sister Lisa had a large brain tumor removed, is partly paralyzed and wheel chair bound with memory issues and heart failure - needs prayers for her encouragement and recovery.
Also, our family needs prayers after the recent death of our father, after the passing of our mother last year. We've been through a rough patch.

Lin-duh fell- My FIL passed away 9/27/17. Could use the prayers for my husband finding a job.

Blacksheep- Stage 2 prostate cancer.

Weirddave and Gingy- Gingy's father passing away.

Alexthechick- Father's dementia.

Molly K- Niece killed by elderly driver.

Donna V- Bills to be paid and an alcoholic Brother.

Gushka- Infection after being bitten by her horse. Her friends' mental health after returning from battle.

TonyPete- Friends' terminal diagnosis, Wife's, (Renee), terminal illness.

bergerbuilder- Multiple strokes, out of hospital at end of September.

Chi- Friend's passing, (Lewis), after battle with cancer.

huerfano- Father's recovery from heart failure.

The Oort Cloud- Thalassemia, genetic blood disorder, complicated my hemolytic anemia. "Given" two years by doctor.

Hopped up on Something- Immediate Family member with cancer. Bone pain without opioids, Hospital Policy.

Publius- Father's health. Rheumatoid arthritis, severe pain during flare-ups. Stamina, in general.

Cannibal Bob- Our brother-in-law (my sister's husband) passed away yesterday morning. We are mourning the loss of the gentlest of souls who shared his gift of listening, was a Good Samaritan to any in need and was so close to the earth that you were grounded and at peace just being around him.
-Also, Bob's cousin who just finished chemo has been pronounced in remission. Praise the Lord!
-Our other brother-in-law with the cancer around his heart is doing well with chemo/radiation. We pray that it continues successfully and with few side effects.

Insomniac- 1) That my autoimmune disorder will stay under control. 2) That the work situation I have will continue to come together and grow.

OregonMuse- Shoulder replacement and recovery.

Slapweasel- Father's dementia and Mother's attitude.

Jane D'oh- Son's Best Friend was in a terrible automobile accident. Surgeries and long recovery ahead. (1/9/18 )

USNtakim- My MIL, (73), is going in for surgery 11/22/17 for bowel re-sectioning. Please pray for her and her family.

Iron Mike Golf- My grandsons. Safety and peace for them. Mrs IMG is scheduled for surgery.

Cheri- Lost Son, (21), in February to hiking accident.

Teresa in Ft. Worth- Lost Daughter, (26) to suicide on September 7th.

Alf767- Employment. 60 y.o. ex-pilot in aviation industry.

Backwards Boy- B'Gal has Congestive heart failure, COPD, scleroderma and arthritis.

Dang- Esophageal cancer. Starting radiation and chemo week of 11/26/17.

Methos- (12/12/17) Mother has Alzheimers and friend Herb died shortly before Thanksgiving, leaving a wife with unspecified memory issues and three adult children.

LCMS Rulz!- (12/12/17) 1) Advancing dementia in my Mother-in-Law: we're going to have to move her all-too-soon;
2) Praise and Glory be for the near simultaneous cancer healings among three of my in-laws.

Michael the Texan- (12/12/17) Difficult divorce from longtime physically abusive wife. Please pray for my wife, too, as this divorce will leave her with much less financial freedom.

Elisabeth- (12/12/17) Chronic stress from my perpetually low income is worsening my known autoimmune problems and probably some that haven't yet been diagnosed, and I've just started my fifth course of antibiotics for a recurrent sinus infection and nothing I've tried to improve my income situation (finding a better job, asking for a raise, selling my work, finding cheaper housing) has worked. Plus, I need new glasses but can't afford the eye exam.

Redinabluestate- (12/12/17) Prostate cancer.

Physics Geek- (12/12/17) Both my mother and stepdad (divorced and not together) are suffering from dementia, with my stepfather's case being somewhat further along.

NoLongerInTheBellyoftheBeast- (12/18/17) I need to have prayers added to the list for a friend and cow-orker named Renee who just got diagnosed with endometrial cancer. I could also use prayers for myself. Major joint pain and long term major depression. And prayers for better finances to pay medical bills.

Johnny- (12/19/17) About a year and a half ago my wife divorced me. It was all very civil and amicable. Today she told me (texted me) that she is now engaged. This whole time, I've been torn up and depressed, of course, but, I don't know, maybe I was in denial or something, because when she told me that.. Gah. It's really over. That life that I was so excited about, will never come to pass.

Tone Staple- (12/19/17) For a relative with Pick's Disease, and for his family. Pick's Disease is a form of dementia that starts with gradual loss of language.

Arch Stanton- (12/19/17) My dad is recovering from having a pacemaker put in, and battling COPD.

Captain Whitebread- (12/19/17) I've had to go to the local hospital ER a couple of times since heart surgery because I was concerned I might be having more heart trouble. I didn't, but since I didn't have insurance, the bill was huge. I tried paying a little every month, but sometimes I missed because money is really tight.
Monday, I was served with a court summons. The collection agency working for the hospital is taking me to court. I owe $4500. I have no way of paying in full. I have to appear in court with the next 35 days.
All I am asking from the Horde is prayers that a workable solution might be found. I am not asking for money; everyone has done more than enough after my heart surgery and when I almost had my electricity cut off a couple of years ago. I believe that with enough prayer, a way will reveal itself. At this time, I don't know what it is. But I believe there is one.

Ladyl- (12/20/17) My dad is back on Hopice and isn't doing great.

Anonymous- (12/19/17) ...Her family has to leave the R.V. park because her husband lost his job two months ago. He has a job prospect in Texas so he is going after it. There are 7 of them living in a 16 ft. trailer but the children are always clean and happy. She has been driving for Uber just to keep food on the table. She's scared about moving, trying to be normal for the kids, doesn't know what will happen if this job prospect doesn't work out. She's got such a good heart and is trying so hard, right now she feels a little desperate and tired.
Please pray for her and her family. I know how much it helps.

Anonymous- (12/22/17) A dear friend who survived cancer--twice--died unexpectedly Thursday night. Not from cancer. He was one of the kindest, sweetest people I've known. His widow is in shock, and sitting in their house looking at the tree they decorated together, and their gifts to each other under it.

Patrick from Ohio- (12/24/17) Can you add my Sister In Law Denise she suffers from LUPUS like symptoms and nothing is really working.

JQ- (12/26/17) 'Twas an otherwise Merry Christmas, because it might be Dad's last, as he has advanced cancer. Dad (80s) is ambulatory but slowing down...
The reality of Dad's situation hit hard tonight after I got home and my heart is breaking.
Prayers welcome, if you would please.
Thanks, Merry Christmas, and God bless you all.

Jim, Sunk New Dawn- (12/26/17) From a rather chilly Orlando, FL. 89 y/o Step Mom in deteriorating health. One way trip, and a contest as to what gets her first. Water around enlarged heart, or OldTimers.
Looks like I'll have to make a hasty long term TDY to Orlando, for however long time is left.

DaninMN- (1/8/18 ) Daughter came home from NICU and met her 19 Month old Sister.

mpfs- (1/1/18 ) Mom was taken by ambulance yesterday afternoon to the hospital. Possible stroke. When they took her sugar last night it was... 759. Even the neurologist did a double take.

Catman- (1/2/18 ) My dad died tonight.... Please prayers.

Ron- (1/2/18 ) Please pray for the family of Zack Parrish, the Douglas County Sheriff's
Deputy who was slaughtered in an ambush in Highlands Ranch, CO on December
30. He was a true follower of Jesus Christ. Zack was 29. Please pray for his
wife Gracie and the two little daughters he left.

rocketeer67- (1/2/18 ) Praying for strength to get through a totally unexpected, unforeseen and unwanted divorce from my wife of 20 years. Praying for understanding as to why she has asked for it. Prayers that her eyes would be opened to the hurt that this is causing everyone around her, even if we're all trying to accept it (with varying degrees of sucess moment by moment) with dignity, grace, and love. Most importantly, prayers for our young children, who while appearing to be bearing it better than expected are clearly (at least to me) not themselves.


AllenG- (1/9/18 ) None of my normal pith tonight. I desperately covet the prayers of the Horde.
The 9 yr old son of one of my old HS/Church youth group friends wouldn't wake up this morning. They took him to the ER and an MRI found a mass in his brain. A first surgery to remove it was only partially successful, he still hasn't woken up, and he's been back I surgery for the lady couple of hours.
His name is Brody Nelson. I grew up with his mom, Courtney. They and their family could really use a miracle right about now...

Gabe- (1/9/18 ) I have a couple of good friends, Patrick Porter and Barbie Turner who are both battling cancer. A petition to the almighty by the horde would be huge IMO.

Commander Cobra- (1/9/18 ) Prayers for active Service Members and those who have served.

sulla- (1/9/18 ) I'd ask to have my mother and sister-in-law added. My mother broke her shoulder this week, and my sister-in-law is recovering from a liver/kidney transplant.

Fox2!- (1/14/18 ) Please add a friend to the list. She is in ICU, sedated and intubated.

jeannebodine- (1/14/18 ) feeling particularly low right now in this brutal winter. My 68-year old husband suffers from Early Onset Alzheimer's Disease and he is deteriorating rapidly.
We have no family around us and friends are thin on the ground, even though we always had many friends throughout our lives. Even close friends have disappeared.
It sure is a different world out there than the one I grew up in. Prayers would be so appreciated for my husband and for me, a full-time spouse caregiver.
Thank you so much. Prayers for you and the Horde from my end.

Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing- Job issues; (1/16/18 ) A friend's wife of barely 2 years was killed by a train. No word on whether it was an accident or suicide. Prayers for him and his daughters.

Nathan- (1/16/18 ) Kitsapbass (and family) homeless. Long story short. Wife's ex husband has custody of elder two kids, goes to jail. We move in because state is mandating parent must be in residence, requiring us to break lease. Ex-husband kicks all (including kids he has custody of) out of house because he is upset that we are in the house (even though he knew all this was required by state).

Kim Jong-nun- (1/16/18 ) Please pray for the complete recovery of Wayne DuPree's sister who has the most virulent form of breast cancer.

Northernlurker- Wife has passed, (1/17/18 ).

Czarkazm- (1/17/18 ) We are grateful to God for taking care of our daughter in her first semester at college while earning a 4.0 GPA.

thathalfrican- (1/19/18 ) My mother for healing from her cancer and weight gain. My father for having the weight of the world on his shoulders. My siblings for being so young and having to endure all this. My wife for a safe finish to her pregnancy and delivery of our child.
Some good fortune for my family would be helpful heh.




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Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 21, 2018 12:54 PM (Ckg4U)

99 Oh crap....Dennis DeYoung (Lady) on the radio... manhood draining to zero... no strength left to change the station...

Posted by: ro-man
________

My Pandora is playing "Am I Evil" by Metallica. I'll cover for you. Let the song finish and regroup.

Posted by: FireHorse at January 21, 2018 12:55 PM (y+SdL)

100 Eagles fans. Stay the hell away from them.

And, how.

Posted by: Santa Claus at January 21, 2018 12:55 PM (Tyii7)

101 Joef, I think Trump is biding his time, letting the shutdown play against the Dems. I suspect he has a master plan. A yuge one.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:51 PM (4E1nt)

I'd like to believe so--and down deep I do suspect he has a plan--but if the Republicans crumble before the daily onslaught of negative press, he'll be standing alone with his dick in his hand.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 12:55 PM (7uYFy)

102
Joef, I think Trump is biding his time, letting the shutdown play against the Dems. I suspect he has a master plan. A yuge one.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:51 PM (4E1nt)


Either that or the Democrats said to him, "We have a problem, we know the American people aren't behind immigration but we need to go through the bukkake theater to make it look like we really, really tried. So just play along and then we'll make a deal. Short shutdown over the weekend, no one will notice."

That's my theory. Or the Dems are nutzz. One of those.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 12:56 PM (2FqvZ)

103 Related:

https://tinyurl.com/ycoydvrr

*In other words, there are paid trolls sitting side by side somewhere in
St. Petersburg hate quoting each other s troll account, helping to shape
divisive attitudes in the U.S. among actual Americans who think of the
other side as a caricature of itself.*

Well, duh. Read the whole thread.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 21, 2018 12:56 PM (YWtf/)

104 Eagles fans. Stay the hell away from them."

Limits on battery purchases?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 21, 2018 12:57 PM (7LY+6)

105 Greetings fappers and fappees.

"Can I be a good person and support our President?" I'm surprised that's even a question, but it's been the one that Progda has fabricated over the past couple of years.

Of course, to them, if you support their agenda, you're a good human being who possesses all of the necessary qualities of a modern human. You'll have their approval.
Never mind that they want desperately to control everything you think, do, and say and will do anything to get that adrenalin rush of ordering others around.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 21, 2018 12:57 PM (tRaq7)

106 84: would it be covered by anyone except Fox?
Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 12:50 PM (5gaNQ)

Good question. But I think they would because he's good for ratings and because they still believe he's an oaf who will beclown himself before the voters.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 12:58 PM (7uYFy)

107 to prevent #Eagles fans from climbing after the #NFCChampionshipGame tonight.

Or hanging themselves...

Go Vikings !

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 12:58 PM (/FL4O)

108 Republicans are/should reconsider DACA because 30 or so of them who are up for re-election in 2018 live in districts with 20+% Hispanics.

-
How many of them are up for re-election in districts with 50%+ Americans?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 12:59 PM (+y/Ru)

109 Eagles fans. Stay the hell away from them."
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 21, 2018 12:57 PM (7LY+6)

I know. All they want to do is hear "Hotel California" again and again and again.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 12:59 PM (7uYFy)

110 The problem with immigration is partly that they no longer become American, they are taught (by Dems) to stay in their groups (and vote D).

But another problem is IQ, (except allegedly for the Asian immigrants, though I'm not sure they give tests in the back alleys). It may be the average legal immigrant is going to be smarter, that is indicated by their ability to come legally.

But the biggest issue is cultural, as most have lived their whole lives under tyranny and corruption, and their enclaves will perpetuate more of that, and cause great conflicts here.

this is American Thinker, "What I learned in the Peace Corps, Trump is Right"

https://tinyurl.com/y87s9ye4

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 01:00 PM (otAqJ)

111 I barely escaped Philly with my damned reindeer.

Posted by: Santa Claus at January 21, 2018 01:00 PM (Tyii7)

112
Been a long time since a Philadelphia sports team won a major championship. A lot of pressure built up. The Eagles have never won a Super Bowl -- however they won the championship the year before it got titled that. I call it Super Bowl -1.

Fifty two years. Yeah, it could get wild.

I'd hate to be an employer with the Eagle fan employees filing in to work tomorrow. They're gonna be useless, whatever happens.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 01:02 PM (2FqvZ)

113 Either that or the Democrats said to him, "We have a problem, we know
the American people aren't behind immigration but we need to go through
the bukkake theater to make it look like we really, really tried.


Almost right. I don't think they talked to Trump about it, but I think they realize they're in a box canyon. They're doing the shutdown so as to mollify the loonier part of their base, but they now know who will win, and it ain't them. They want it to go away.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 01:02 PM (LAe3v)

114 I sure could use a hand job right about now.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:04 PM (Tyii7)

115 Sally Short Bus Kohn beclowning herself again

https://tinyurl.com/y8t3c2hx

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 01:05 PM (/FL4O)

116 Even when dims don't have feet, they manage the worst response

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 01:05 PM (4u7kU)

117 As DNC Chair Tom Perez tries to rally his liberal base and blame Republicans for the Schumer Shutdown, it's worth noting that he is reportedly "miserable" and "hates" his job.

Hey, Tom. If at first you don't suceed, lie, lie again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

118 Thanks for your Prayer List, Slappy. It and the prayers are greatly welcome.

Back when I was a real live Boy, they were called "good vibrations" or "positive vibes" (there was no religious component because it wasn't seen as being "cool.")

Today, they're "what goes around, comes around," with a genuine spiritual aspect of wishes for good things to happen to others.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 21, 2018 01:06 PM (tRaq7)

119 Well if this is nearly in the bag then it's time for the GOP to surprise everyone with a tactical surrender.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 01:06 PM (Sfs6o)

120 Thanks, FireHorse...

Fixed the radio, now recharging with a little live Hendrix (Jimi), Blue Suede Shoes.

Posted by: ro-man at January 21, 2018 01:07 PM (RuIsu)

121 It's a catch 22 for our administrative state. Stopping Unregulated immigrants means a collapse of the entitlements in the near future and welfare state falls. Allowing unregulated immigration allows one culture to replace another and America dies anyway after becoming a 3rd world shithole.

They have gone with the latter.

Posted by: Monk at January 21, 2018 01:07 PM (g4lFK)

122 Sure hope the fans give me a nice hand when I'm coming out of the tunnel.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:07 PM (Tyii7)

123 Making good on President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's earlier promise, Turkey launched a blistering wave of air strikes on U.S.-backed Kurdish forces in [Syria's] Afrin province and crossed the border with troops and artillery. Details are sketchy, but at least for the moment the Kurds claim to have beaten back the attack.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:08 PM (+y/Ru)

124
Democrat strategy: Sometimes you have to get the losing out of the way. Big picture? A loss of 10 Senate seats and 60-40 Republican majority.

Take the loss, punt the ball, and move on.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 01:09 PM (2FqvZ)

125 Gotta hand it to coach. He's a genius.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

126 Dang! I'd do any of the gals in the 'My Pillow' commercials!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 21, 2018 01:12 PM (bc2Lc)

127 See what I did there? I crack me up. Okay, I'll stop.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:13 PM (Tyii7)

128 Since drive by psychiatric exams are all the rage these days, I got one for Obozo. He hates America and white people because his cracker mom abandoned him. Plus his banker grandmother was a racist who didn't want to be raped and murdered.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

129 Uh Oh this is gonna get some people riled up lol

https://tinyurl.com/y8bjyyeh

Oxford University has extended time for maths and computer science exams in a bid to help women get better grades.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 01:15 PM (/FL4O)

130

There is no Melting Pot.

Now we are a candle made of 20 different crayon colors, each melting and dripping down, running over each other, towards the bottom, but never blending.

The Puddle of Many Colors.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Useless at January 21, 2018 01:16 PM (e2ieZ)

131 113 Almost right. I don't think they talked to Trump about it, but I think they realize they're in a box canyon. They're doing the shutdown so as to mollify the loonier part of their base, but they now know who will win, and it ain't them. They want it to go away.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 01:02 PM (LAe3v) >>>

I think this is part of a Dem plan to re-take the House. It may be a poor plan, but it's a plan. Supporting data: On Meet the Press today, Chuck Todd showed that a fair number (sorry, I cannot recall any of the figures - was still sleepy) of current R House districts in CA, AZ, NM, TX, and FL have a pretty high percentage of Hispanics, including x districts where the R incumbent is not running for re-election (one example: Issa).

So, the logic goes (and as said almost literally by Todd), all of the Dem DACA-related drama is aimed at stirring-up voter turn-out this November.

If so, I dislike it not least because it's a callous strategy (the Dem politicians and money-people don't care about the DACA individuals or any of the illegals), and I hope it fails.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 01:17 PM (AMIL/)

132 I a big Eagle fan has never been to a game, but will cross the Walt Whitman tomorrow driving by the Linc decked out in green and over dead Viking fans along the way.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:18 PM (aC6Sd)

133 I retired from the electrical industry. The company I worked for really wanted to emulate GE because GE was the big dog on the block when Welch was leading them. My company failed in their quest to be the second coming of GE. They never expanded past the core businesses that made them what they are today. That stock is trading today at $138/share.
GE did this to themselves like so many other companies. They expanded past their core competencies.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 01:18 PM (N3JsI)

134 AW - You forget abandonment by his African father who he had to go searching for after he was gone.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:19 PM (aC6Sd)

135 all of the Dem DACA-related drama is aimed at stirring-up voter turn-out this November....
Posted by: Gref


I agree, but I think they've miscalculated which voters will be enthused. Trump plays the game by his own rules, not theirs, and they're having difficulty adapting.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 01:20 PM (LAe3v)

136
anti-nfl thread in our near future?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:20 PM (0zeTt)

137 128: Obama is the malignant narcissist they accuse Trump of being, Dems always accuse the other side of their behaviors.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (5gaNQ)

138 Listening to Schumershutdown Schumer. Gagh!

Say's he gave Trump his number for funding on the Wall but then wouldn't disclose what that "Fully funded" number was.

Here's what he offered: $1.8B, not the $18B needed. Nick Mulvaney had the details in his press conference yesterday.



Posted by: WisRich at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (OAlmw)

139
The assimilated Hispanic voters have no love for the border jumpers. The Puerto Ricans who escaped PRs terrible employment were supposed to hand Florida to Hillary. Guess what? They preferred having jobs to glass ceilings.

Chuck Todd can eat a BOD. He's wish-casting with magical thinking.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (2FqvZ)

140 GE did this to themselves like so many other companies. They expanded past their core competencies.

Graft and rent-seeking?

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (LAe3v)

141 I agree, but I think they've miscalculated which voters will be enthused. Trump plays the game by his own rules, not theirs, and they're having difficulty adapting.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 01:20 PM (LAe3v) >>>

Concur.

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (AMIL/)

142
A thread to discuss Heat Pumps and other HVAC units?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (0zeTt)

143 142. Swamp cooler and a barrel full of chopped up furniture.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 01:23 PM (fA1SL)

144 pep. lol, not exactly. Although my husband did work for a company who's president and cfo both ended up in jail for tax evasion and general unlawfulness.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 01:23 PM (N3JsI)

145 Judging by the latest polls, The GOP may week pick up some seats in the house. They will certainly pick up 4-6 in the Senate

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 01:24 PM (4u7kU)

146
Swamp cooler and a barrel full of chopped up furniture.


Hillbilly pellet stove?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:24 PM (0zeTt)

147
There is no Melting Pot.

Now we are a candle made of 20 different crayon colors, each melting and dripping down, running over each other, towards the bottom, but never blending.

The Puddle of Many Colors.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Useless


When I was in the Navy we were sent to a race relations class. The premise was that we were not a melting pot but rather a Mulligan Stew where in each ingredient had its own unique flavor to be savored.

That class was in 1974.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 01:24 PM (IqV8l)

148 144 pep. lol, not exactly. Although my husband did work for a company who's president and cfo both ended up in jail for tax evasion and general unlawfulness.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 01:23 PM (N3JsI)

Company = Mob ???

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 01:25 PM (4u7kU)

149 142
A thread to discuss Heat Pumps and other HVAC units?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (0zeTt)

What is a heat pump ?

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 01:26 PM (4u7kU)

150 Racist spottec in St. Louis!

"This message is for black folk," Public Safety Director Jimmie Edwards, who is black, said from the podium.

. . . .

He said that black people have to look in the mirror and address the black-on-black homicides if they want to move forward and continue MLK's dream.

http://bit.ly/2EXSAGr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:26 PM (+y/Ru)

151 148 144 pep. lol, not exactly. Although my husband did work for a company who's president and cfo both ended up in jail for tax evasion and general unlawfulness.
Posted by: never enough caffeine

Company = Mob ???
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee
---
Even lower on the honor scale - a bank.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 01:27 PM (tr2D7)

152 More cracks in the Schumershutdown Dam:

"Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) said on Sunday that he would consider funding for President Trump's border wall if that's a "ransom" that the president wants in exchange for protecting recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program."

Posted by: WisRich at January 21, 2018 01:27 PM (OAlmw)

153 138 Listening to Schumershutdown Schumer. Gagh!

Say's he gave Trump his number for funding on the Wall but then wouldn't disclose what that "Fully funded" number was.

Here's what he offered: $1.8B, not the $18B needed. Nick Mulvaney had the details in his press conference yesterday.


Posted by: WisRich at January 21, 2018 01:21 PM (OAlmw) >>>

On Chris Wallace's Fox show this AM, Mulvaney said Schumer offered to approve "authorizing" money for wall construction. Mulvaney pointed out that money must be appropriated to actually be spent. He reminded Wallace that wall construction is already authorized!

The Dems may not be able to get away with their double-speak word games in 2018 as in the past!

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 01:29 PM (AMIL/)

154 I was in high school for Nixon's first election. I was aware of how betrayed by him Republicans felt. I have wondered for years what it would take for leftists to feel that way. I have come to the conclusion that they are incapable of feeling betrayed. they have no sense of honor to be betrayed. Apparently anything can be justified or denied.

Posted by: lurking grandma at January 21, 2018 01:30 PM (sujqA)

155 >>>By backing a man so hated by some am I compromising my integrity and values? Can I be pro-Trump and still be a good person?


Gah. That's silly. Barack Obama was "hated by some". Every candidate will be "hated by some". It's like saying "Can I back a man who's 5'10" with brown hair"? Simply irrelevant. These people are trying.

Posted by: Messrs. Dorsey, Zuck & Schmidt at January 21, 2018 01:32 PM (/qEW2)

156 To me it looks like Nancy Pelosi's face is starting to cave in like Jupiter in 2010.

Posted by: jsg at January 21, 2018 01:33 PM (/FL4O)

157 Chad Pergram@ChadPergram
McConnell says Schumer "shut down the gov't..because he didn't get everything he wanted in a mtg Friday with the President"

Turtle coming out of his shell?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:33 PM (+y/Ru)

158 If Lovin' Trump is wrong, I don't wanna be Right!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 21, 2018 01:33 PM (V2Yro)

159 127
See what I did there? I crack me up. Okay, I'll stop.


Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:13 PM (Tyii7)

I dont get it.


Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 21, 2018 01:33 PM (YWtf/)

160 154: We'll DO the betraying, thank you very much!

Posted by: Donks at January 21, 2018 01:34 PM (5gaNQ)

161 http://popculture.com/trending/2018/01/20/
statue-of-liberty-ellis-island-
closed-government-shutdown/

Press + Park Service applying the weaponization of ShutDown.

Time for a Mr. Park Ranger tear down this banner speech.

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 01:34 PM (FhXTo)

162 Wonder why I never hear an Anita Bryant tune on XM/Sirius radio.

Things that make you go mmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 01:34 PM (EoRCO)

163 No, not the mob, he worked for Tyco Intl. Anyone remember the multi thousand dollar umbrella stand? Mostly it was the tax evasion and spending company money unwisely that did the president in. I believe he's out of jail already.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 01:35 PM (N3JsI)

164 so it's surprising to me why he doesn't make a televised speech
directly to the American people laying out just what the Democrats are
up to and why he is fighting them.


Soon.

There's still dealing going on.

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 01:36 PM (FhXTo)

165 I have wondered for years what it would take for leftists to feel that way. I have come to the conclusion that they are incapable of feeling betrayed. they have no sense of honor to be betrayed. Apparently anything can be justified or denied.

Posted by: lurking grandma at January 21, 2018 01:30 PM (sujqA)


========

It's worse. They'd feel betrayed if their guys behaved ethically instead of fighting dirty to win. If the DNC didn't pay for the dossier and abuse FISA, they'd feel betrayed. They're rabid animals attacking in a pack. Moral considerations don't arise for them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 01:36 PM (/qEW2)

166
Keep this in mind: DACA is essentially OPEN-ENDED Amnesty for the ENTIRE world.

If the Left gets DACA, they get: Unfettered-Chain-Migration-in-Perpetuity

What DACA is NOT: There is no SET CUTOFF DATE for these Fake Children who are citizens of other countries. DACA will be for ALL "children" who are brought here illegally from yesterday until Forever.

AND, THEN all these "children" will be able to bring in all their "relatives."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:37 PM (0zeTt)

167 I'd hate to be an employer with the Eagle fan employees filing in to work tomorrow. They're gonna be useless, whatever happens.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 01:02 PM (2FqvZ)

I'm likely to be laid off Wednesday, so I don't care what shape I'm in Monday.

Posted by: josephistan at January 21, 2018 01:37 PM (ANIFC)

168
DACA is an OPEN BORDER & Amnesty.

DACA is an OPEN BORDER & Amnesty.

DACA is an OPEN BORDER & Amnesty.

DACA is an OPEN BORDER & Amnesty.

DACA is an OPEN BORDER & Amnesty.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:38 PM (0zeTt)

169 166: Well the whole family must coalesce around the new American citizen to help him on his way...all 30 of them.

Posted by: Donks at January 21, 2018 01:38 PM (5gaNQ)

170 You guys need to remember. Dems depend on convincing others they are always the victim. And what will cure all their ills is more govt programs. And once we get you on those we have you! It's why drug dealers give their first dose for free. I've seen nothing that indicates Trump is a racist. Unemployment for black people is at a low not seen in years. The problem is the left, media (redundant) has done a great job painting everyone opposed as a rayyycisss!

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 21, 2018 01:39 PM (L3YlV)

171
DACA is NOT just amnesty for the 800K* "children"** already here.

* fake estimate
**fake children -- these people are adults

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:39 PM (0zeTt)

172 Stopping Unregulated immigrants means a collapse of the entitlements in the near future and welfare state falls.

That's so stupid it's not even wrong.

Posted by: DaveA at January 21, 2018 01:40 PM (FhXTo)

173 I don't like the Balkanization of America. One day in the future we will
be judged and see ourselves as the content of our characters rather
than the color of our skin, or our genitalia. But I fear that for the
next generation we will be forced to carve off chunks of the electorate
and appeal to them based on those factors
---
Is someone making a point of regularly reminding current welfare recipients that every illegal alien that democrats protect reduces the amount of welfare available for them?

Because that seems like it would be helpful.

Posted by: Methos at January 21, 2018 01:40 PM (XQvuQ)

174 Many years ago the Eagles were in the playoffs. We were returning from an overseas trip and our home airport at the time was Philly. Landed just fine but couldn't get our luggage. Sunday afternoon of the playoffs and the second shift at the airport called in sick. Waited 2 plus hours for our luggage to appear because they were short staffed and the first shift that stayed overtime wasn't particularly motivated.
How we despised that airport. Gave it the middle finger on the way out of town the last time.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 21, 2018 01:40 PM (N3JsI)

175 170 You guys need to remember. Dems depend on convincing others they are always the victim. And what will cure all their ills is more govt programs. And once we get you on those we have you! It's why drug dealers give their first dose for free. I've seen nothing that indicates Trump is a racist. Unemployment for black people is at a low not seen in years. The problem is the left, media (redundant) has done a great job painting everyone opposed as a rayyycisss!
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 21, 2018 01:39 PM (L3YlV)

He's making mass numbers of black people work. Just like slavery in the Old South!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 01:40 PM (NWiLs)

176
DACA is automatically the permission for all the "dreamers" entire families to stay here, too.

And then ALL those people will be able to bring in their families.

Essentially, DACA will mean everyone in Mexico and elsewhere will Free Pass to cross the border and stay legally in the USA with full benefits.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:41 PM (0zeTt)

177 25 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 21, 2018 12:09 PM (+RVKP)

I just see the inevitable one step forward two steps back scenario continuing for the long run. Still makes us better than everyone else though so we got that going for us.

Which is nice.

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 21, 2018 01:41 PM (2WfB0)

178

DACA is the biggest fraud perpetrated on the citizens of the USA since global warming.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 21, 2018 01:42 PM (0zeTt)

179 Here's what Trump knows about negotiating that Schumer and Ryan and McConnell and none of those political idiots seem to know: When you're holding a winning hand, you don't need to do anything. When you have the power, you say nothing, you wait for the other side to show their desperation by making offers to you.

If you've ever watched two dogs fight, it's always the dog that's losing that does all the yelping and whining. The Big Dog has got lots more important things to do than make noise.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 21, 2018 01:42 PM (V2Yro)

180 How well would it be received if I said as a white man, why shouldn't I....

Not well I'm guessing. Not well at all no matter what came next except "live."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 21, 2018 01:44 PM (3BFzK)

181 One more thing to watch for - as this week goes on, Schumer and the dems are going howl more and more loudly that Trump won't negotiate, that Trump won't engage, that Trump is completely Unreasonable and Intransigent. You can measure how close they are to capitulating by how loudly they shriek.

Let me repeat - in a negotiation, when you have the power, you don't need to say anything. You just need the nerve to wait.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 21, 2018 01:45 PM (V2Yro)

182 DACA is the biggest fraud perpetrated on the citizens of the USA since global Madoff warming.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

183 She sounds like the typical brain washed progressive trying to shed her chains. Frankly I don't give a flying fork what liberals think of me and that includes the media.

Posted by: Rose at January 21, 2018 01:46 PM (30UCB)

184
To me it looks like Nancy Pelosi's face is starting to cave in like Jupiter in 2010.
Posted by: jsg


ATTEMPT NO LANDING !

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 01:47 PM (IqV8l)

185 it is no fault of their own that trust fund babies are worth millions, so never get to work and develop as normal adults, facing life's adversities.

In the spirit of DACA (not their fault) ... we should take their money and subject them to real life, maybe even pair them up with an illegal alien.

I mean, the point is the parents should have no influence on the children. All third world foreigners must be made equal with all American children. /s

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 01:47 PM (otAqJ)

186 When I was in the Navy we were sent to a race relations class. The premise was that we were not a melting pot but rather a Mulligan Stew where in each ingredient had its own unique flavor to be savored.

That class was in 1974.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 01:24 PM (IqV8l)
---
I went to one in the early 90's where a short film was played praising Mauritius, with its "salad bowl" multiculturalism, versus America's "melting pot" style. I've been to a few places like this, and what ends up happening is that each ethnic or racial group carves out its own niche, but one group always ends up on top and they prefer to promote from within. They live together relatively peacefully but they don't mingle socially.

I have also heard the new citizenship style called "hotel style", as in you live there but you really don't feel ownership or a citizen of the place you're visiting.

They really want us to move in parallel tracks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 01:47 PM (qJtVm)

187 The scary thing is that the media still has so much power over the left side of the bell curve.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 21, 2018 01:48 PM (3BFzK)

188 95 Good morning from Philly where crews from the city are greasing the light poles with Crisco to prevent #Eagles fans from climbing after the #NFCChampionshipGame tonight.

Eagles fans. Stay the hell away from them.

http://bit.ly/2DuBmUZ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

Ooh yeah, and I'm right in the thick of it. If Da Iggles lose I'll have to seal up the house and move the family into the basement for safety. Probably do the same if they win. Plus if they win all my coworkers will be insanely insufferable.

(My prediction: Iggles and Patriots in the SB. Pats win, 45-20 and I get a nice schadenboner at work.)

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at January 21, 2018 01:48 PM (1FhAQ)

189 See what I did there? I crack me up. Okay, I'll stop.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 21, 2018 01:13 PM (Tyii7)



I DO BUT DON'T WORRY I WON'T SPOIL THE JOKE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 21, 2018 01:49 PM (/qEW2)

190 Amazing, innit? The concept of the nation state - deemed 'obsolete' if not outright evil by 'thought leaders' and our mediocre kakistocracy - turns out to be not only valid and necessary, but even good and proper. All this and more from a single year of the Trumpening.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 01:49 PM (fA1SL)

191 As an illegal black muslim tranny, I can kill people and be Scott free. Hell, I might even get a book deal and millions of dollars.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 21, 2018 01:49 PM (3BFzK)

192 So, Bradley Manning is running for Congress. What's his slogan? "Vote for me because I have a twat."

THE FUNNY THING IS HE DOESN'T!

Posted by: JAS at January 21, 2018 01:50 PM (7JbXq)

193 186. Singapore has that, in spades. Brazil, too, but theirs is a messier version.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 21, 2018 01:51 PM (fA1SL)

194 If DACA was an executive order, why can't it be reversed? What am I missing?

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 01:51 PM (EGFUD)

195 Democrat strategy: Sometimes you have to get the losing out of the way. Big picture? A loss of 10 Senate seats and 60-40 Republican majority. Take the loss, punt the ball, and move on. Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division

Don't worry, Democrats. You have nothing to fear from a Republican majority.

Posted by: Republican Majority at January 21, 2018 01:52 PM (Ndje9)

196 Can I be a good person? Tell you who is not qualified to answer that question for me: the Left.

Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2018 01:54 PM (cW490)

197 the media still has so much power over the left side of the bell curve.

Always thought they were 'the left' from some old parliamentary seating arrangement. But your version is MUCH better!

Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2018 01:57 PM (cW490)

198 Nood cigars in places you'd never guess.

Posted by: dartist at January 21, 2018 01:57 PM (nisXv)

199 What's his slogan?

#IHadThis!

Posted by: Manning's Privates at January 21, 2018 01:59 PM (Ndje9)

200 The problem with leftist minorities and feminists is they don't want fair treatment. They want a power grab. So yes, there must be balkanization.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 01:59 PM (/qEW2)

201 This needs wider dissemination: troops-go-without-pay-pelosi-treats-house-dems-taxpayer-funded-dinner-party

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yczyntvl

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 02:01 PM (hyuyC)

202 What am I missing? Posted by: Infidel

The Hawaii Judge Clause of the Constitution.

Posted by: Hawaii Judge at January 21, 2018 02:05 PM (Ndje9)

203 A previous President who was never all that popular, but who knew how to fight and win - U.S. Grant. Nobody in Washington ever liked him very much, except Lincoln. And the voters.

Sherman once said of Grant "I'm twice the general he is. But Grant's got 10 times my nerve." Among his many unusual personality traits, Grant was known for being one of the most unbeatable poker players in the army, and this from a group of players who could put a lot of today's pro's to shame.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (V2Yro)

204 BackwardsBoy:

Check out the links in my #15. I think you will like them.

Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2018 02:07 PM (sdi6R)

205 This is the same trick as with Obama: vote for me or you are racist.

Only now, as with the boy who called wolf, returns are diminishing.

Result: WINNING !

Posted by: She who shall be Nameless at January 21, 2018 02:10 PM (CjE8v)

206 191 As an illegal black muslim tranny, I can kill people and be Scott free. Hell, I might even get a book deal and millions of dollars.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 21, 2018 01:49 PM (3BFzK)

Cultural appropriator.

Posted by: Scott at January 21, 2018 02:10 PM (Dp6qK)

207 Sherman once said of Grant "I'm twice the general he is. But Grant's got 10 times my nerve." Among his many unusual personality traits, Grant was known for being one of the most unbeatable poker players in the army, and this from a group of players who could put a lot of today's pro's to shame.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 21, 2018 02:06 PM (V2Yro)

Must have been weird for that cracker to see his own picture every time he upped the bet to $50.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at January 21, 2018 02:10 PM (7uYFy)

208 193 186. Singapore has that, in spades.
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I wasn't gonna name names, but yeah.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 02:11 PM (qJtVm)

209 This is the same trick as with Obama: vote for me or you are racist.

Only now, as with the boy who called wolf, returns are diminishing.

Result: WINNING !
Posted by: She who shall be Nameless at January 21, 2018 02:10 PM (CjE8v)

That trick ain't gonna work again. A bit different, but it didn't work with Hillary....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 21, 2018 02:12 PM (7uYFy)

210 As an illegal black muslim tranny, I can kill people and be Scott free. Hell, I might even get a book deal and millions of dollars.

-
Burn, baby, burn!

http://bit.ly/2BikYAM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 02:15 PM (+y/Ru)

211 If DACA was an executive order, why can't it be reversed? What am I missing?

Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2018 01:51 PM (EGFUD)

It is my understanding that it was reversed by Trump with a delayed effective date... the broohaha now is our betters trying to re-institute it without us plebs lynching them (solely politically of course since tar and feathers have sadly gone out of fashion).

Posted by: redbanzai at January 21, 2018 03:10 PM (FTXAT)

212 Loved her comment about locking doors not because we hate the people outside our homes, but because we love the people inside.

Great way to express it.

Posted by: Gem at January 21, 2018 03:42 PM (XoAz8)

213 If "white privilege" is so powerful, why did Liz Warren pretend to be a minority.

Posted by: SMOD at January 21, 2018 04:03 PM (e8kgV)

Sunday Morning Book Thread: 01/21/2018

home library.jpg

It's certainly beautiful, but I would be drawn inexorably to putting my feet up on that desk if I were reading in that chair. And it's probably some fantastically expensive 18th century English desk with butterfly wing stain and unicorn horn inlay, and the butler would come in and have me ejected from the house by the assistant butler who moonlights at the local pub as a bouncer.

Even when I studied I usually put my feet up on the desk or the window sill or whatever was handy. The higher the better. No ottoman for me. Maybe I needed every bit of oxygenated blood in my brain to absorb the information.

How about you? Can the category of book be discerned by the height of your feet?

******

eves rib book.jpg

Here's the blurb from EarlyBird Books about a Woman's Health book. I have no idea whether the book is worth a bucket of spit, but I got a chuckle out of the description, which is just a wonderful example of the cognitive dissonance that the Left suffers whenever the significant psychiatric issue called "Gender Dysphoiria," known to the Left as transgenderism, is discussed.

For decades, medicine saw men and women as essentially the same physically except in the area of reproduction. However, a new and groundbreaking science of gender-specific medicine has discovered astonishing distinctions between male and female bodies. From the thickness of our skin to the signs of a heart attack to ways we metabolize drugs, the sexes have significant physiological differences. But, what do these differences mean to you and your doctor?

So which is it? Are men and women social constructs, or are there profound pysiological differences? Inquiring minds want to know.

Actually, the answer is obvious, and it's embarrassing that our culture has allowed this question any semblance of seriousness.

******

From the AoSHQ Book Thread mail bag:
You folks plugged Rob Avery's first novel, "Close Hauled," some months back, and as I later told you, he saw a dramatic upsurge in sales over that weekend.

Well, his second novel in the series is out. Here's a blub and a link. It's just as good as the first; maybe better. Here's a blurb:
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"Broad Reach" by Rob Avery picks up where his first novel, "Close Hauled," left off. Sim Greene has made his way down to the Caribbean with a sailboat -- and a ton of cash -- only to find that his best friend and soon-to-be-dive-shop-partner, Al, is in jail on suspicion of murder. Green has to clear his partner -- if he is indeed innocent -- while staying out of jail himself. Great mystery fun in a merger of Robert Parker and John D. McDonald.

Broad Reach: A Sim Greene Mystery


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Historical fiction is one of my favorite easy reads. It's not like reading a history book, where concentration is sort of required, so I can breeze through them, comfortable with the historical background but not really worrying whether it is perfectly accurate. The problem is that so many of them are lousy history and lousy fiction. There are wonderful exceptions, and they have been discussed at some length by the Horde. But a few that may have (but probably haven't) escaped your attention are the fine novels by Edward Rutherfurd. He focuses on cities, and the paths that families take through them across the centuries. They are fun reads, and as far as I can tell the history is well researched. Good stuff, especially since they are long, and are great for snowy weekends.

Another author whose fiction I really enjoy is Ken Follett, who has written a bunch of spy novels but has branched out to grand historical novels. One of his early thrillers is unabashedly pro-Israeli, which I like very much, and is a great read. It's called "Triple," and it's about Israel's early nuclear program and its acquisition of uranium. It's one of those books I can pick up and open to any page and be immersed immediately in the story.

But his later historical novels are pretty solid. "The Pillars Of The Earth is the first in a short series, and while I thought the history was reasonably accurate, this reviewer was a bit critical, though not unfairly...

A radical departure from Follett's novels of international suspense and intrigue, this chronicles the vicissitudes of a prior, his master builder, and their community as they struggle to build a cathedral and protect themselves during the tumultuous 12th century, when the empress Maud and Stephen are fighting for the crown of England after the death of Henry I. The plot is less tightly controlled than those in Follett's contemporary works, and despite the wealth of historical detail, especially concerning architecture and construction, much of the language as well as the psychology of the characters and their relationships remains firmly rooted in the 20th century. This will appeal more to lovers of exciting adventure stories than true devotees of historical fiction.

Anyway, what's the historical fiction on your shelf? Not the one that fell down, the one that is firmly anchored with screws that go all the way into the studs!

Posted by: CBD at 09:00 AM




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1 Finally

Posted by: Bruce at January 21, 2018 08:55 AM (8ikIW)

2 Impulsively she reached her slender hand out to take mine. “You have won, Melvin Dane!” her soft voice said. “The ship of Mutron is fallen! We shall not be slaves of the Lord of Flame! We shall not die the violet death in the pit of Xath!”

--- from “The Green Girl” by Jack Williamson (1930)

https://tinyurl.com/ybxnqlbj

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 08:55 AM (qJtVm)

3 Ah, a fresh one!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 08:56 AM (tr2D7)

4 Well done, Bruce.

So, my attention deficit continues apace. Began Michael Moorcock’s Jerry Cornelius series. It’s the kind of read where Hindu cosmology and Courrèges suits are discussed with equal passion. “In his permanently-booked room at The Yachtsman, Jerry Cornelius had woken up at seven o’clock that morning and dressed himself in a lemon shirt with small ebony cuff-links, a wide black cravat, dark green waistcoat and matching hipster pants, black socks and black hand-made boots. He had washed his fine hair, and now he brushed it until it shone. Then he brushed one of his double-breasted black car coats and put it on.” The book thus far is all paragraphs on bespoke suits and hand-rolled licorice paper cigarettes and then someone dies horribly. Some nice ‘ron told me there was a movie made of the story “The Final Programme”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKNrL3sRV4o


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 08:56 AM (qJtVm)

5 Mmmmmmm that new thread smell. The ONT was getting a stank to her.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 21, 2018 08:57 AM (wdmm9)

6 I want the map ceiling of that library. *adds a note to the plans for the dream house*

Posted by: right wing yankee at January 21, 2018 08:57 AM (obZ4W)

7 The title is "under-butler."

Posted by: JAS at January 21, 2018 08:58 AM (7JbXq)

8
Anyway, what's the historical fiction on your shelf?

People store newspapers on a shelf?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 08:58 AM (2FqvZ)

9 Yay!!! Book thread!!!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 08:58 AM (hMwEB)

10 Tolle lege
Finished Brian Kilmeade's Andrew Jackson and the Miracle of New Orleans and would recommend it for younger readers.
Stopped by the used book store and found the entire collection ( I think) of Patrick O'Briens Aubrey/Maturin series so picked up The Fortune of War, The Surgeon's Mate and Ionian Mission. Hopefully the rest will still be there in a few weeks.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 08:59 AM (aC6Sd)

11 'The ONT was getting a stank to her.'

This is about me isn't it?

Posted by: The Six Million Dollar Vayjay at January 21, 2018 08:59 AM (UdKB7)

12 I love the Health Magazine promo quote for the edition of "Eve's Rib", highlighting their Eureka! moment of realization men and women are different.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:00 AM (ylUqT)

13 Maybe I needed every bit of oxygenated blood in my brain to absorb the information


Well, when you put your feet up the blood runs down to *a* brain, if you're a guy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:00 AM (fuK7c)

14
It's a beautiful lieberry/study. Once I win the lottery I'm getting one like that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2018 09:00 AM (SiINZ)

15 I read Martin Luther: The Man Who Rediscovered God and Changed the World by Eric Metaxas. I found this to be a fascinating book about a subject of which I knew little. As in his Bonhoeffer book, Metaxas well-researched the subject and presents it in a riveting style. The last chapter shows how Luther's faith and courage gave us the beginnings of the ideals of liberty, equality, and individualism that are at the heart of our modern life.

Posted by: Zoltan at January 21, 2018 09:01 AM (T8WeQ)

16 I first thought those were water stains on the ceiling.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 09:01 AM (0+nbW)

17 That chair needs one of those tacky plastic mats underneath.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 09:02 AM (Sfs6o)

18 That map on the ceiling is perfect for lying back and thinking of England.

Posted by: The Six Million Dollar Vayjay at January 21, 2018 09:02 AM (UdKB7)

19 Greatly enjoyed Pillars Of The Earth, written a little in the James Michener tradition.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:02 AM (ylUqT)

20 Historical fiction? Like Aubrey/Maturin? Or Danilo Kis's works?

You could argue that large parts of Herodotus were fiction in that he was taking somebody's word for somethings that just weren't true. Btw I'm at the end of Book 1.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2018 09:03 AM (y7DUB)

21 I was introduced to Allan Eckerts Winning of America Series after a failed attempt during the transition between 29 and 30.

I especially enjoyed The Wilderness War and The Gateway to Empire. It was very interesting to read about a particular place and then to go and try to locate it in modern day Ohio, NY or PA and trying to imagine it back in the day.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 09:03 AM (tr2D7)

22 Colleen McCollough's Men of Rome novels. Sharon Kay Pennants Plantagenet novels. Margaret George's autobiographical novels. Uris and Michener, too.

Posted by: James Birdwell at January 21, 2018 09:04 AM (SCvwT)

23 Does regency pr0n count as "historical fiction"?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Ann at January 21, 2018 09:04 AM (jtHQy)

24 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a pleasant week of reading.

As nice as the office in the top photo is, a lot of it looks very low. Some of us need height in chairs and desks.

I've never been one to put my feet up on desks or window sills. I might have some good qualities (the jury is still out) but flexibility is not one of them. Some kind of foot stool or recliner is about my limit.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (V+03K)

25 Wasn't The Pillars Of The Earth made into a mini-series with Rufus Sewell?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (WbIyz)

26 Sharon Kay Penman. Damn autocorrect.

Posted by: James Birdwell at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (SCvwT)

27 yo mornin folks

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (BtQd4)

28 The desk doesn't look English and it is most certainly not 18th century

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (4u7kU)

29 Hue 1968 and The Greatest Knight (both recommended here recently) are on sale in Kindle today. Think I'll have Son get them and will pay him back.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (rp9xB)

30 My favorite Historical fiction author is Steven Pressfield. I've read everything he has written. Ironically he also has written a Future Fiction book called The Profession which has been eerily accurate in some aspects.

He also wrote Legend of Bagger Vance .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (2DOZq)

31 Outlander by Diana Gabaldon The entire Series but especially the last 4 books deal with the build up and outbreak of the American Revolution in North Carolina and other colonies.

Also...the first historical fiction I got into was the First Man in Rome Series by Colleen McCullough...basically it goes from 110 BCE through the Rise of Octavian Caesar until about 10 BCE.

All of those books are just outstanding. And, I do not get how Outlander has just been marketed to just women. LOL

Posted by: Robert C Woolwine at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (G/Iaq)

32 I did like The Pillars Of The Earth.

My favorite historic fiction was The Killer Angels (Michael Shaara).

The part where Longstreet tries to explain Americans to the English Major was nearly perfect.

The old Irish former Sargent was also well done.

Posted by: Big V at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (MVE/7)

33 I've read three books by Rutherfurd (It's a 'u" not an "o" but Pixy "corrected" me too.) I read Russia, London and Sarum. I guess I should read some more because I enjoyed him very much.

Older historical fiction writers I liked are James Michener and Kenneth Roberts. I had never seen a novel about a loyalist in the American Revolution until "Oliver Wiswell" and haven't seen one since, although they may be out there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (8+Ozj)

34 Fen mentioned Rutherford's Sarum, another worth-reading piece of epic historical writing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:07 AM (ylUqT)

35 Historical fiction I enjoyed:
Aztec
River God
Cicero trilogy by Robert Harris

Posted by: Gref at January 21, 2018 09:07 AM (AMIL/)

36 Historical fiction on the shelves at my house is kind of anglophile. Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond Chronicles, Bernard Cornwell, Patrick O'Brian, Georgette Heyer. The Dunnetts are autographed!

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at January 21, 2018 09:07 AM (IbzI6)

37 I read a lot of historical fiction- Georgette Heyer, Elizabeth Chadwick, Bernard Cornwell, and the like. But I also find it interesting to read books that look like historical fiction but were contemporary at the time. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that Jane's Austen's books were seen like we see the current NY Times bestsellers, and that, for her audience, they were set in the present-day.

Like CBD, I've gotten to the point where historical fiction and certain classics are restful reads, because I know the history of the period, so I don't have to concentrate as much on the background and I can enjoy the story.

Posted by: right wing yankee at January 21, 2018 09:07 AM (obZ4W)

38 What distinguishes historical fiction from just fiction set in the past? Would the Hornblower series meet the criteria?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 09:07 AM (WbIyz)

39 I will have to read that book on Luther. I liked Metaxas' other books on William Wilberforce and Bonhoeffer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (8+Ozj)

40 World Without End was book 2 in the Follet. I do not think it went anywhere after that. I thot both were optioned but do not remeber TV or movie.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (BtQd4)

41 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I read The Whiskey Rebels, by David Liss, a while back. I wasn't especially familiar with the politics of the early American whiskey trade prior to reading it. Hope his history is accurate; I'd have to read other sources to know.

But that's what I like about historical fiction--I learn stuff by reading interesting stories. Does anyone know if David Liss is mostly accurate historian?

Posted by: April at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (e8PP1)

42 The desk doesn't look English and it is most certainly not 18th century

Ikea.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (oVJmc)

43 How about you? Can the category of book be discerned by the height of your feet?


I go the opposite direction-

I love reading all-stretched out and laying down on the sofa.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:09 AM (9q7Dl)

44 That's one ugly ass room. The light fixture is from hunger

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:09 AM (4u7kU)

45 I've tried to find an author who is similar to Pressfield but have been unsuccessful. Guy at the bookstore recommended Conn Iggulden. I read a couple of his but IMO not nearly as good as Pressfield. More fiction than history.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:09 AM (2DOZq)

46 Right now i'm reading "The Periodic Table"by Primo Levi. It's short stories/character studes in the life of this Holocaust survivor/trained chemist/author. He shares through elements in the Table, what it was like for an Italian Jew experiencing the slow incursion of Fascism and Nazism into his country before and during WW2, and the chemical mysteries he solved. Somehow he weaves all this into the narratives.

A brave mountain-climbing friend from his student days who became a partisan fighter is in the chapter on Iron. The chapter on Cesium tells how he survived in Auschwitz - by stealing Cesium from the lab so he and a friend could make flints for lighters and buy two months worth of bread rations.

The chapter on Vanadium is especially relevant now. He writes that the Nazis built Auschwitz but those who said and did nothing to stop it built and cleared the roads.

Posted by: vivi at January 21, 2018 09:09 AM (11H2y)

47 I have decided to be extremely judgy.

The chair behind the desk has rollers and it's on carpet. There are no marks on the carpet and I don't think that's because the under-butler vacuums it every two minutes, I think it's because whoever owns the room doesn't actually sit in the chair behind the desk. It's a show desk in a show room and that person has too much money and is an asshat and if it were the 80s he would at least have the decency to die of a cocaine overdose.

A real person would have scuff marks on the carpet and shoe marks from putting their feet on the desk.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:10 AM (fuK7c)

48 Well, that's where we go a-ridin into town, a-whompin and a-whumpin every livin thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the women folks, of course.

https://strategypage.com/military_photos/
20180120193619.aspx

[You are becoming quite the serial margin-blower! CBD]

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 09:10 AM (BtQd4)

49 "The Final Programme" has a ‘Cockian cast of very unsavory characters, like: “Mr. Cruikshank, the entertainers’ agent, kissed Little Miss Dazzle goodbye. Little Miss Dazzle was quite naked and did not appear on stage like that, if for no other reason than that the public would see that she was in fact equipped with the daintiest masculine genitals you ever saw.”

An updated sleazy 70's version of Thackeray.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:11 AM (qJtVm)

50 We shall not die the violet death in the pit of Xath!


The Pit of Xath.


Is that what we're calling Hillary!'s nethers now?


Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:11 AM (9q7Dl)

51 Sharon Kay Penman.

Posted by: James Birdwell at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (SCvwT)
I've read some of her stuff and found it a hard slog. Interesting subject matter, but something about her sentence construction trips me up. It's like she's trying to use archaic phrasing for authenticity, but does it in such a way that makes no sense.

Posted by: right wing yankee at January 21, 2018 09:11 AM (obZ4W)

52 David Liss is interesting because he writes economic historic fiction.
A Conspiracy of Paper is about the earliest stock markets and fiat currency.
The Coffee Trader is about commodities.

both are good reads

Posted by: vivi at January 21, 2018 09:12 AM (11H2y)

53 Bernard Cornwell's Saxon Chronic is my best recommendation. Start with the first book "The Last Kingdom" and work your way through. The BBC miniseries doesn't have the budget to bring these books to the screen without truncating plot lines and characters.

Posted by: The Guy at January 21, 2018 09:12 AM (Kq/OY)

54 I like historical fiction but not some authors (cough philippa gregory cough)

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 09:12 AM (hMwEB)

55 42 The desk doesn't look English and it is most certainly not 18th century

Ikea.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (oVJmc)

Looks like some late 19th French Empire knock off. The crummy ormolulu is a dead giveaway. Plus, it's a kidney, ugh

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:13 AM (4u7kU)

56 Currently reading "Abandoned in Hell:The Fight for Firebase Kate" by William Albracht and Marvin J. Wolf

Very well written account and an amazing story of Captain Albracht's defense and escape from the firebase.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 09:13 AM (EoRCO)

57 I don't really think of Jane Austen as historical fiction, since she's writing about her own time period. I'd also call Georgette Heyer "romance" although the term is much maligned since there's a lot of overwrought and bad fiction in that category, IMO, and I have read everything Heyer wrote except for a few of the detective novels (She's a restful read for me)) and I adore Jane Austen

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:14 AM (8+Ozj)

58 47 I have decided to be extremely judgy.

The chair behind the desk has rollers and it's on carpet. There are no marks on the carpet and I don't think that's because the under-butler vacuums it every two minutes, I think it's because whoever owns the room doesn't actually sit in the chair behind the desk. It's a show desk in a show room and that person has too much money and is an asshat and if it were the 80s he would at least have the decency to die of a cocaine overdose.

A real person would have scuff marks on the carpet and shoe marks from putting their feet on the desk.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:10 AM (fuK7c)

Yep. The under butler's role is to keep the dust off the desk.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:15 AM (nBr1j)

59 Read Scorpion's Pass by A.H. Lloyd. Not awful for a first effort (although it was published second). The idea was a mix of Forrester and Austen set on another planet. I think it generally succeeded except where he brought in modern romance phrases instead of keeping to Austen's less explicit style.

His Man of Honor series of mil-sci-fi is certainly better, but that is to be expected since the goal is to grow as an author.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 09:15 AM (rp9xB)

60 Oh there's a map on the ceiling. I like that a lot.

I have decided to fervently hate the owner of this room, so now I've decided that the ceiling map was there when he bought the place with his parvenu fell into nouveau riches.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (fuK7c)

61 "The Periodic Table"by Primo Levi

I picked that up at a used book sale. It was not what I expected. I did enjoy it though. It's quite a collection of stories well worth reading.

Posted by: freaked at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (UdKB7)

62 39 I will have to read that book on Luther. I liked Metaxas' other books on William Wilberforce and Bonhoeffer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:08 AM (8+Ozj)
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Fen, I loved "If You Can Keep It: The Forgotten Promise of American Liberty". The chapter "The Wonder of the Age", on the impact the preacher George Whitefield had, is alone worth the read.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (qJtVm)

63 Good morning! Family still recovering from the flu, which I failed to get (after going through it, one after another, with two grandsons and spouse, I hope it is skipping me) but they are well on the mend and I have a little free time.

Every month I get, as all prime members do, that list of 6 books to choose a freebie from. I usually pick one, but rarely read them through despite their high ratings. Am I alone? Are these really pretty damn good?

Today I hope to hit the used book store in Cream Ridge, NJ (biggest one around) and find something interesting to read, and maybe a few old pattern books while I'm there

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 09:17 AM (5gaNQ)

64 Replace that (lovely) desk and desk chair with a couple of red leather armchairs, ottomans and a good light for each. Now THAT is a library!

Posted by: Rosasharn at January 21, 2018 09:18 AM (PzBTm)

65 What distinguishes historical fiction from just fiction set in the past? Would the Hornblower series meet the criteria
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I think of Historical Fiction as a fictionalized version of historical teaching. In other words, the writer makes an attempt to popularize writing of actual history using the mechanism of popular fiction (to broaden the audience).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:18 AM (ylUqT)

66 Bernard Cornwell's Saxon Chronicles are a great read. I mean, there are vikings; what's better than reading about that from the comfort of a chair, at a time when they're not likely to visit in person?

I'd also recommended his Warlord trilogy, which delves a little more into fantasy (it's a King Arthur story; it has to be mostly fantasy). Very dark, and a bit of a downer ending, but the journey to the end is a good one.

Posted by: right wing yankee at January 21, 2018 09:18 AM (obZ4W)

67 despite the wealth of historical detail, especially concerning architecture and construction, much of the language as well as the psychology of the characters and their relationships remains firmly rooted in the 20th century.

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So, lots of focus on intersectionality, privilege and alternative sexualities?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 09:18 AM (/qEW2)

68 I really, really love the map on the ceiling.

It's upside down and I see Europe and Africa on the left.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:19 AM (qJtVm)

69 I was introduced to Allan Eckerts Winning of America Series after a failed attempt during the transition between 29 and 30.

I have those books and thoroughly enjoyed them.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:20 AM (gz5SW)

70 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (qJtVm)

Thanks; Eveyrtime that Metaxas book is mentioned, I think "Gee, I ought to find it" and of course, George Whitfield was a fascinating man with a captivating style. Even Ben Franklin enjoyed his sermons and Franklin could hardly be described as a very religious person.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:20 AM (8+Ozj)

71 Historic Ficrion novels have to be based on a specific event or historical person IMO. The main structure has to be built around actual facts of the event and the filler can be circumstantial evidence based fiction. Conversations, internal thoughts, etc.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:20 AM (2DOZq)

72 The first historical fiction that made an impact on me was Lest Darkness Fall by L. Sprague de Camp. It is what we would call Alt-history SF now.

Then the entire Hornblower saga and some of the Richard Bolitho books by Douglas Reeman. Then other Douglas Reeman books like HMS Saracen. I just saw that Douglas Reeman died less than a year ago. Hand Salute. Two.

37 right wing yankee
For me all Nevil Shute books fit in the category of contemporary stories that are now historical fiction. He was a stellar writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 09:21 AM (hyuyC)

73 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (fuK7c)

This is the owner:

https://goo.gl/images/Bxn9aX

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 09:21 AM (wYseH)

74 I've been in a mood for wonderful, top-notch writing. I started Churchill's "A History of the English-Speaking Peoples". The man, like CS Lewis, can say exactly what he means, clearly and originally. In that vein, I downloaded the first volume of his "Marlborough" biography. If it's as good as Churchill's other writing, I'll keep an eye open for a good copy of the 4 volume set in hardcover.

I finished CS Lewis' "Out of the Silent Planet". Again, wonderful writing and he takes an interesting approach to the universe. I probably won't re-read the other sci-fi books now but will go to some of his academic essays about Medieval literature.

Then I'm continuing my SLOW re-reading of LOTR. It's worth every second of time invested.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 09:21 AM (V+03K)

75 It was very interesting to read about a particular place and then to go and try to locate it in modern day Ohio, NY or PA and trying to imagine it back in the day.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 09:03 AM (tr2D7)

That was an interesting part of Grant's biography. Having lived in Missouri (near Grant's Farm even, although we never went) and now Texas, it was the first time I was familiar with things mentioned in a biography.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 09:22 AM (rp9xB)

76
I, Claudius and Claudius the God

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 21, 2018 09:22 AM (3DZIZ)

77 My favorite reading place is my big poofy leather sofa that is easy to sink into but beastly hard to scramble out of, like it's actually got suction to drag you back to reading and revery.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:22 AM (qJtVm)

78 World Without End was book 2 in the Follet. I do not think it went anywhere after that. I thot both were optioned but do not remeber TV or movie.

He's currently working on "ONT Without End

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:22 AM (gz5SW)

79 I'm suspicious of newer historical novel - a lot of them have anachronistically progressive main characters. ugh

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (hMwEB)

80 Dava Sobel's books are wonderful (and usually not lengthy) reads. If you haven't read them I suggest Galileo's Daughter and Longitude to start.

Galileo's Daughter

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybtc68y4



Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (ylUqT)

81 I'm reading and listening to Diamond in My Crown by Patty Loveless. Beautiful.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (nBr1j)

82 This is the owner:

https://goo.gl/images/Bxn9aX
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at



If that were true it would entirely change my opinion because I am a very shallow human.

I still have the Lady Godiva painting open in a tab.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)

83 Some nice ron told me there was a movie made of the story The Final Programme...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 08:56 AM (qJtVm)


"T'was I" said naturalfake adjusting his top hat, made of genuine felted beaver fur, to a junta angle.

He thought for a moment then chose a kilt composed from the pelts of the last three Tasmanian tigers as well as Byronic poet's shirt woven of the finest red Chinese silk.

Birkenstocks completed his outfit.

Thus attired, naturalfake left his humble abode armed with a baseball bat.

He intended to conk Vishnu on the head and take the unconscious god's place among the Hindu Pantheon...

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (9q7Dl)

84 I am sure Obama's eventual post president auto biography will be more historical fiction.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (2DOZq)

85 Longitude

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8w8re86

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (ylUqT)

86 I’m pondering rereading the Lord of the Rings again – it’s been years – and in preparation I thought I’d peruse Randal Helms’ “Tolkien’s World” and the influence of the Norse Eddas, Beowolf, the Ring Cycle, etc. I haven’t read this since junior high but it’s been traveling with me for years.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (qJtVm)

87 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 09:21 AM (wYseH)

I need to re-new my card.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 09:25 AM (0+nbW)

88 74: I enjoyed the trilogy and his take on sci-fi, too. CS is a favorite of mine for many years, even went to the off Broadway production of Screwtape.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 09:25 AM (5gaNQ)

89 hmmm.

junta = jaunty

Thx a-c!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:25 AM (9q7Dl)

90 Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (ylUqT)

I liked" Galileo's Daughter." I haven't read anything else by that writer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:25 AM (8+Ozj)

91 Primo Levi spent 11 months in Auschwitz and was liberated by the Red Army. He wrote a book about how he got there and his time there. "If This Is a Man"

Posted by: freaked at January 21, 2018 09:26 AM (UdKB7)

92 Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield about the battle at Thermopylae. Most of the Richard Sharpe series by Bernard Cornwall. Seem to always reread them when I have nothing new to read.

Posted by: Morigu at January 21, 2018 09:26 AM (RjtEf)

93 Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (9q7Dl)

But what cologne were you wearing? What was playing on your car tape deck?

These are the kind of details the reader needs to know.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:26 AM (qJtVm)

94 The chandelier's ceiling medallion looks like it was carved by Billy Gibbons

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:27 AM (4u7kU)

95 Historical fiction, for me, starts with Robert Graves -- not just the Claudius novels ("I, Claudius" and "Claudius the God"); but also his lesser-known works: "Count Belisarius", about the great Byzantine general; "Hercules My Shipmate", (British title "The Golden Fleece") which retells the story of Jason and Argonauts; "Homer's Daughter", which retells the story of Odysseus' homecoming but in a very idiosyncratic way; "The Islands of Unwisdom", which describes a doomed Spanish voyage to the South Pacific in the 16th century; "King Jesus", which concerns the life of Christ; the Sergeant Lamb books, which concern a Welsh sergeant during the American revolutionary war -- and many others. All are well researched, beautifully written, well worth reading.

There's the Aubrey-Maturin novels and the Hornblower novels: enough said.

I should also add to those John Roberts' SPQR novels, which concern a minor senator in Rome at the time of Julius Caesar, observing the end of the Republic and its replacement by the imperial system. While these are detective novels, they are excellent historical fiction in their own right, in the portrait they present of life in Rome at its apex: I recommend them most highly!


Posted by: Brown Line at January 21, 2018 09:27 AM (S6ArX)

96 And now its Wayfaring Stranger--oh Lord.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:27 AM (nBr1j)

97 For me all Nevil Shute books fit in the category of
contemporary stories that are now historical fiction. He was a stellar
writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 09:21 AM (hyuyC)
======================I remember avidly reading On The Beach as a teenager. Haven't read his stuff in decades.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:27 AM (ylUqT)

98 People store newspapers on a shelf?
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 08:58 AM


You have shelves? Luxury!

Posted by: @JRandomMoron at January 21, 2018 09:28 AM (DMUuz)

99 I recently read "Night" by Elie Wiesel.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:28 AM (gz5SW)

100 Patrick O'Brian. Hands down, to not coin a phrase.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at January 21, 2018 09:29 AM (Jj+59)

101 Favorite Historical Fiction novel.

Tides of War by Steven Pressfield. It is the story of the Peloponnesian War told by a soldier and his interaction with the great general Alcibiades.

Others pick Gates of Fire as his best work.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:29 AM (2DOZq)

102 I would like to thank whomever recommended Librivox last week. It's an audible app of public domain books. I downloaded it to my phone and am halfway through "Moby Dick". I listen in my work truck.

I've tried to read MD several times and just couldn't do it. The LV version is awesome.

Highly recommend the service and thank you very much to the moron that mentioned it!

If you're on a computer all day at work and can listen to whatever you want, you can "read" books on a regular computer too with LV.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 21, 2018 09:30 AM (gPqsc)

103 I picked up a bunch of Dorothy Dunnett books a while back but never got around to reading them. Is there one of her series that's a good place to start? I likely to have a LOT of time to read this summer and I'm putting together a list of books to have on hand.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 09:30 AM (V+03K)

104 I still have the Lady Godiva painting open in a tab.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)

There was antique dealer in Chicago that I used to buy from in the 70's. You would have liked her. She watched her shop in a bikini

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:30 AM (4u7kU)

105 So, if one "Coins" a phrase, but not in the correct sense, is it a counterfeit phrase ?

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:30 AM (gz5SW)

106 Though it isn't fiction, it reads as such so I recommend The Professor And The Madman by Simon Winchester. It recounts the writing of the first OED.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yczxgzfo

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:31 AM (ylUqT)

107 106-

Yes; That was a good book.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:31 AM (8+Ozj)

108 At some point in my youth, now long ago and far away, I read a lot of young adult historical fiction by Noel Gerson. Much of his work focused on minor characters of the American Revolution, such as "Light Horse" Harry Lee.

He seems to be mostly out of print these days. Too patriotic?

Posted by: LochLomondFarms at January 21, 2018 09:32 AM (zQ1RI)

109 99
I recently read "Night" by Elie Wiesel.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:28 AM (gz5SW)
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Love Weisel's writing, even in his most sobering books.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:33 AM (ylUqT)

110 I remember avidly reading On The Beach as a teenager. Haven't read his stuff in decades.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:27 AM (ylUqT)


Great book, but don't want to read anything else from the author. I don't handle disappointment well.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 21, 2018 09:34 AM (2FqvZ)

111 Print is dead.

Posted by: Igon Spengler at January 21, 2018 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)

112 Much of his work focused on minor characters of the American Revolution, such as "Light Horse" Harry Lee.

He seems to be mostly out of print these days. Too patriotic?

Nowadays, it seems Light in the Loafers Lee is getting all the attention.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:34 AM (gz5SW)

113 109 99
I recently read "Night" by Elie Wiesel.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:28 AM (gz5SW)
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Love Weisel's writing, even in his most sobering books.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:33 AM (ylUqT)


I loved Night. Most recently I read Dawn about the execution of a British soldier.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:34 AM (nBr1j)

114 110: I enjoyed "A Town Like Alice" as well. The British TV production was pretty well done too

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 09:36 AM (5gaNQ)

115 Straight from the ONT to the book thread....my OCD.....reeee...

Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2018 09:36 AM (LiyEm)

116 re-read "The Perelandra Trilogy" by C.S. Lewis last year - hadn't touched it in 30-odd years, but it still held up - maybe not as exciting as it was, but oddly relevant to these times. Also reccomend "King Jesus" by Graves - also read many years ago and loved it then - need to re-read it I suppose...

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 21, 2018 09:36 AM (Ng5NT)

117 Posted by: weirdflunky at January 21, 2018 09:30 AM (gPqsc)

Librivox and Text-to-Speech are the only way I got through Moby Dick, War and Peace, Don Quixote, etc. No, I don't catch or remember everything, but it's still far ahead of *nothing* which was the other option.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 09:37 AM (rp9xB)

118 The Pit of Xath.
Is that what we're calling Hillary!'s nethers now?
Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 09:11 AM


I've always imagined it to be more like a sarlacc, as lived in the Great Pit of Carkoon.

Posted by: @JRandomMoron at January 21, 2018 09:38 AM (DMUuz)

119 For me, in the eternal "History v Historical Fiction" debate, it comes down to the central focus of the main characters. If the central characters are fictitious, and they occasionally interact with historical figures, fine (Cornwell, Forester). But if the central figures are historical, with the author projecting thoughts and actions onto a real person (no matter how well researched).... I'd rather stick with a history book.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 21, 2018 09:38 AM (YFnq5)

120 Love Weisel's writing, even in his most sobering books.

I knew going in that it was gonna be gut wrenching,

Simon Weisanthal was a guest speaker at my college back in the day.

THAT guy was a presence.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:38 AM (gz5SW)

121 Going to church this morning. I wouldn't miss it, but I'm afraid it will be too intense.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:39 AM (nBr1j)

122 I still have the Lady Godiva painting open in a tab.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:24 AM


You know you can "Save image as ...", and then make it your wallpaper, right?

Posted by: @JRandomMoron at January 21, 2018 09:40 AM (DMUuz)

123 Off to start my day, since I am on church strike. I'm still upset at the minister's calling Trump a racist in their sermon last week. Very depressing to see where the Episcopal Church is nowadays. I hope the breakaway effort gains steam, and soon.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:40 AM (ylUqT)

124 Perfect timing on this week's light reading since I did pick Close-Hauled by Rob Avery. The protagonist is a U.S. Navy Master-at-Arms who accidentally finds a retired Navy Lieutenant that has been murdered. He winds up investigating a big smuggling operation and is identified as the prime suspect in the murders. Pretty good yarn that kept my interest although the author did telegraph one of the twists and a character that I suspected to be involved in the smuggling operation was revealed at the conclusion of the novel. Rating = 4/5.

Despite being a defense attorney, Avery seems to respect police officers and the U.S. military. I suspect that he might be politically conservative because characters talk about how the government should keep its hands out of people's pockets and the "good Reagan years."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 21, 2018 09:41 AM (5Yee7)

125 I watched "Tailor, Tinker,Soldier,Spy" last night....having not read the novel, it was a bit hard to follow. Anyone read Le Carre, Ludlum..."Spy genre"?

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 09:41 AM (0+nbW)

126 Mary Renault was an early and outstanding writer of historical fiction centering around ancient Greece. My favorites are The King Must Die, Fire From Heaven, The Mask off Apollo, and The Last of the Wine. (fair warning: she deals with the issue of homosexuality by simply recognizing it as a fact of life - a non-issue).

I second. the recommendations for McCullough's series on the fall of the Roman Republic, and Sharon Kay Penman novels of twelfth through 14th century England/Wales.

Bernard Cornwell has done a lot of stand alones along with his series things re: Napoleonic wars and the Saxon/Dane/Briton saga.
I think he is hit and miss and don't really trust his 'history'.

Actually, if one can get past the 'Western' label, L'Amour's Sacketts are really good historical novels.


Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 09:42 AM (NIA7/)

127 It recounts the writing of the first OED.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yczxgzfo

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:31 AM (ylUqT)


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Ie. the most pointless book since "How to Speak French" was translated into French.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 09:42 AM (/qEW2)

128 Librivox and Text-to-Speech are the only way I got through Moby Dick, War and Peace, Don Quixote, etc.

To stay book thread compliant: (a) I love Moby Dick. I read it as an adult a few years ago, so just shy of 29; (ii) I've never read War and Peace, that would be one of my life's failings;

(trois) I absolutely hate Don Quixote and it's not my fault it's Cervantes'. Someone in the book thread a couple of years ago said oh check out the new translation and I did.

He makes fun of an idiot for no reason. Maybe there was supposed to be an allegory about something, but he's just cruel to his protagonist and it's not entertaining. I didn't finish the book because fuck him.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:42 AM (fuK7c)

129 123: I'm with you, except I'm jewish. Our rabbi Sharpton type pisses me off to no end with the "theology is sociology" crap and increasingly red perspective. I am looking elsewhere for religion.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 09:43 AM (5gaNQ)

130 I'm taking a brief reading break--just because. I'm thinking of picking up some C.S. Lewis or something really light.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:44 AM (nBr1j)

131 Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM

Thank you for the tip on "Hue 1968" being on sale.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 09:45 AM (GroCc)

132 Now on to Shake, Rattle and Roll by Willy Deville. Love him, if you're not familiar with him, check him out.
He sang the theme song of The Princess Bride.

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:45 AM (nBr1j)

133 Thanks; Eveyrtime that Metaxas book is mentioned, I think "Gee, I ought to find it" and of course, George Whitfield was a fascinating man with a captivating style. Even Ben Franklin enjoyed his sermons and Franklin could hardly be described as a very religious person.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 21, 2018 09:20 AM (8+Ozj)

True, but he did recognize the value of religion in public life, and contributed his own money towards the building of synagogues and Catholic churches in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Coily at January 21, 2018 09:47 AM (ANIFC)

134 Off spring sprite sock!

Posted by: josephistan at January 21, 2018 09:47 AM (ANIFC)

135 Off to start my day, since I am on church strike. I'm still upset at the minister's calling Trump a racist in their sermon last week. Very depressing to see where the Episcopal Church is nowadays. I hope the breakaway effort gains steam, and soon.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:40 AM (ylUqT)


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ACNA (Anglican Church in North America) is a separate Anglican entity from the Episcopal Church, has been for several years.

Last I heard, 4 dioceses in the Episcopal Church broke away and joined it, Philadelphia, Fort Worth, South Carolina and San Joaquin.

ACNA is the breakaway.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 09:48 AM (/qEW2)

136 I'm a fan of historical fiction, too. I've read Rutherford's Sarum and enjoyed it. I liked getting the history of England from pre-history to middle ages (I think). I have Paris and need to get started on that.

I've also read Follett's Pillars of the Earth which I greatly enjoyed. Yes, in some ways the characters were psychologically modern, but Follett also does a good job of making us understand how important the construction of the cathedral was, how that could dominate the people's thinking. I don't think there are any modern-day comparisons to how all-consuming the construction of an edifice for the glory of God could be. My one quibble with Pillars of the Earth was the sex scenes. Thankfully they are few and brief, but they read like a man's idea of what women want to read in a bodice ripper, really leaden and laughable.

Posted by: biancaneve at January 21, 2018 09:48 AM (A/iod)

137 Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 09:39 AM (nBr1j)

My deepest condolences. May your wife's memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 21, 2018 09:49 AM (EZebt)

138 Nevil Shute's masterpiece was Round the Bend. He wrote A Town Like Alice to get funding for that book.

Ruined City, Pastoral and Trustee from the Toolroom are also top notch.

I own all of his books, including his autobiography Slide Rule.

I've even read a book of literary criticism on him. *spit*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 09:49 AM (hyuyC)

139 Actually, if one can get past the 'Western' label, L'Amour's Sacketts are really good historical novels.


His last book "Last of the Breed" was excellent.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:50 AM (gz5SW)

140 I enjoyed BLOOD ROCK takes place during the great Malta siege of 1565, if you never read about the Malta Siege of 1565 that's very interesting and if the Turks got a foothold onto Malta and used it as a base maybe things would be different in the Mediterranean.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 09:50 AM (dKiJG)

141 Chore await. May every book you read bring you pleasure or knowledge, or speed the day -- both.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 21, 2018 09:50 AM (hyuyC)

142 Like goatexchange, I regard historical fiction as fictional characters and what they do imposed on a known, historical situation. It might be the Napoleonic Wars, Medieval England (Brother Cadfael), settling the colonial era American frontier, etc. If you have any interest in a place or historic time, it is a way to add zest to the topic without distorting the facts. If it's well done, historical fiction is very satisfying reading.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 09:51 AM (V+03K)

143 No love for the Flashman novels as historical fiction?

There's footnotes ... and boobs!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 21, 2018 09:52 AM (pV/54)

144 140 I enjoyed BLOOD ROCK takes place during the great Malta siege of 1565, if you never read about the Malta Siege of 1565 that's very interesting and if the Turks got a foothold onto Malta and used it as a base maybe things would be different in the Mediterranean.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 09:50 AM (dKiJG)

In one of those funny quirks of history, the date the Turks were driven away from Malta was September 11th, the same date they would be driven away from the gates of Vienna in 1683.

Posted by: josephistan at January 21, 2018 09:52 AM (ANIFC)

145 Unless I missed it, no one has mentioned George Macdonald Frazier and his Flashman series? Great rollicking fun and pretty good history (as explained by Harry Flashman, anyway).
Also, Wibur Smith wrote some pretty good page turners about Africa, from the Zulu War through (nearly) present day.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 21, 2018 09:52 AM (ipyio)

146 No love for the Flashman novels as historical fiction?

There's footnotes ... and boobs!

Ya mean... like popups ?

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:53 AM (gz5SW)

147 Currently reading "Abandoned in Hell:The Fight for Firebase Kate" by William Albracht and Marvin J. Wolf

Very well written account and an amazing story of Captain Albracht's defense and escape from the firebase.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 09:13 AM (EoRCO)


I read that book a year or two ao : concur on the recommendation. What he did at Firebase Kate was truly amazing and instead of having his command completely slaughtered, he was able to save most them in a night-time exfiltration while being surrounded. The chapter at the end where he pretty casually mentions, "Oh, yeah, I was in the shit here, there and over there, too," is interesting.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 21, 2018 09:53 AM (5Yee7)

148 So, the wife and I found a tv series, "Murdoch Mysteries" that we enjoy, though the suspension of disbelief is pushed to its limits and beyond. Anyway, just a lot of fun to watch, for the most part.

Anyway, I decided I'd try to read the books upon which the "Murdoch" series is based and it was one of those few times the tv program is better than the book.

Posted by: Blake at January 21, 2018 09:53 AM (WEBkv)

149 I've always enjoyed me some James Michener since highschool and i am old.

Just started 'Texas'....again.

Finished 'Poland' last week.

Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (eup66)

150 I know it's the book thread, but could use a few prayers for our friend, George. He had another heart attack yesterday and it's not looking good. We just got back from the ICU.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (Lqy/e)

151 Actually, the under-butler would tell one of the footmen to summon the chauffeur and the gardener and they would throw you out.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at January 21, 2018 09:57 AM (oVWx5)

152 Very depressing to see where the Episcopal Church is nowadays. I hope the breakaway effort gains steam, and soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 21, 2018 09:40 AM (ylUqT)


It's been going on for a long time. Back in the 60s I was an alter boy and the parish minister asked my opinion on attracting young people with folk services. Even though I was young I knew that my response, a cleaned up version of "I think that sucks maximum cock because the liturgy is fine as is without attracting a bunch of fuckheads and cocksuckers while pissing off the existing flock", wouldn't be well received and, since I thought he might exert some influence on whether I went to heaven or Hell, I gave him an extremely tepid response. So he did it and a massive clusterfuck ensued.

The downhill slide was just beginning. I haven't been back in decades. Mrs H is Lutheran so I'd go with her sporadically, it was ok but I found their liturgy very unsatisfying, and then she got pissed off at them for different reasons so we've been heathens for a while.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2018 09:58 AM (y7DUB)

153 My local Post Office has a book swap and I picked up "Texas".

I'd read it before and now it's in my que.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 09:58 AM (gz5SW)

154 I've always enjoyed me some James Michener since highschool and i am old.


Michener went to my high school. So did Smerconish. And Pink.

Weird place.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)

155 I like today's library, but like one of the commenters above - get rid of the show-set desk and chair, and put in some lovely deep leather-upholstered armchairs (with matching tuffets) and a sofa - and that's a library to die for. Or to live in and hardly ever leave, save for having one of the maids bring in a meal on a tray.
Historical fiction - love-love-love! I would, since I write the stuff myself. From when I could read books without any pictures in them, I vacuumed up HF from the shelves at the public library. My very favorite is Rosemary Sutcliff, who did write a couple of novels for the above-the-age of teens set. Sword at Sunset, which retells the story of King Arthur, as a Romano-British commander of cavalry in the 6th century. Rider on a White Horse, which deals with the English Civil War, and follows Sir Thomas Fairfax and his wife, Anne -- who joined him in his campaigns in the North.
I also recommend Dorothy Dunnet's Lymond novels - I first found one of her books on the shelf of the common room in an English youth hostel, and liked it so much that I had to buy the others in the series when I got home. Let's see - I did read a fair number of James Michener's historicals; Centennial and The Source are about the best. After a while, I think his books became rather a formula. Rutherford - Sarum is pretty good, London is a bit of a familiar formula. I'll chime in again in the thread, as other great historical novel titles occur to me.
The thing is - historical novels are a sort of gateway drug into an interest in history, especially if they are well-researched. Get interested in the period or the personalities, and pretty soon you might be doing serious research...

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 21, 2018 10:00 AM (xnmPy)

156 Finished 'Poland' last week.

Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (eup66)

So did we!

Posted by: The Wermacht, October 1939 at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (wYseH)

157 30 My favorite Historical fiction author is Steven Pressfield. I've read everything he has written. Ironically he also has written a Future Fiction book called The Profession which has been eerily accurate in some aspects.

He also wrote Legend of Bagger Vance .
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 09:06 AM (2DOZq)

One of my favorite parts of The Profession was how Trump owned CNN in the future setting. Ended up being true in a metaphorical sense at least.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (2EYE1)

158 Day #2 Government Shutdown
It is apparent that zoos and wildlife parks in FLA have open their gates and abandoned all hope of government subsidies to feed animals and lure in unsuspecting yankee tourists. Rarely see wildebeest or Thompsons Gazelle this far north and small herd of each were watering at creek/greenspace dividing my neighborhood. Took a yearling wildebeest (120 kg) and gazelle buck (only have 5.56 rounds) so we should have meat through Wednesday. Keep your powder dry and canteens full.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (BtQd4)

159 For my historical fiction, I just finished "The Scourge of God" by William Dietrich about Attila the Hun and "Innocent Traitor" by Alison Weir about Lady Jane Grey. Poor Jane!

Posted by: jmel at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (OeWgo)

160 Like Salty, my chores await.

Best wishes to my fellow Bookthreadists.

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (gz5SW)

161 150 I know it's the book thread, but could use a few prayers for our friend, George. He had another heart attack yesterday and it's not looking good. We just got back from the ICU.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (Lqy/e)

Prayers up for your friend

Posted by: josephistan at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (ANIFC)

162 Goatexchange @ 119 -

I'm just the opposite. I want my authors to have done the research necessary to provide 'motivation and character' to significant historical persons and have the discipline to 'color within the lines' of history. I, too, read a lot of straight history and autobiographies; but I have not the wherewithal, time, or access to delve deeply into personalities and circumstances - I rely on others to do that.

Fiction writers have the freedom to create make believe characters and events outside the historical 'lines'. I want my historical fiction writers to be much more restricted and to have some responsibility to historical accuracy.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (NIA7/)

163 "that look like historical fiction but were contemporary at the time. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that Jane's Austen's books were seen like we see the current NY Times bestsellers, and that, for her audience, they were set in the present-day."

The American Winston Churchill--who always gets confused with the British Churchill--wrote both kinds of novels. His Civil War novel "The Crisis" is set in antebellum St Louis and the real life figures who appear in it include Grant in his pre-military days when he was struggling to make a living. It was, in fact, a yuge NYT best seller in its day (1901). His later, contemporary novels like "The Inside of the Cup" and "A Far Country" weren't as popular but they do provide an interesting look into the mindset of pre WWI America.

Posted by: Secret Square at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (9WuX0)

164 But what cologne were you wearing? What was playing on your car tape deck?

These are the kind of details the reader needs to know.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 09:26 AM (qJtVm)


"Ah, details."

naturalfake waved a hand vaguely, sighed and relaxed into the cushy embrace of his baby rhino skin sofa, which had been hand painted by Peter Max with scenes of naturalfake's various triumphs, such as "The Case of the Russian Centipede".

He started reading "The Conversions" by Harry Matthew.

The ethereal sounds of "Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Joujouka" flowed from his Nakamichi cassette tape deck.

The melancholy music presaged the death of Brian Jones, soon to be found floating face down in his swimming pool. Not murdered in a fit of jealous rage as some supposed by Mick Jagger, but rather accidentally drowned by an Irish Each uisge, who was a fan of American Negro Blues sung in cockney accents.

Tying this all together, sofa, book, music, naturalfake himself was the rich ambergris enhanced scent of "The Blackest Soul of the Blackest Rose", the custom cologne, which Creed, perfumery to the famous and wealthy, had created for naturalfake and naturalfake alone...

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (9q7Dl)

165 I like Janis Holt Giles. She write about early Kentucky. Her book on the Shakers "The Believers" is especially good.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (Lqy/e)

166 Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (eup66)

I think the first Michener I read was "The Source"...many years ago. I should re-visit it.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 10:03 AM (0+nbW)

167 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)

Bucks County?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 10:04 AM (wYseH)

168

Remember, remember the eleventh of September ... something ... something ... something, a date that should never be forgot.

Has a nice ring to it if you can just fill in the blanks.

Perhaps a mention of the Turks and Cake-o's and pirates in the Caribbean.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:04 AM (GroCc)

169 161 150 I know it's the book thread, but could use a few prayers for our friend, George. He had another heart attack yesterday and it's not looking good. We just got back from the ICU.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (Lqy/e)

Prayers up for your friend
Posted by: josephistan at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (ANIFC)

Praying

Posted by: Northernlurker, honestly this is family. I'm not lurking anymore. at January 21, 2018 10:05 AM (nBr1j)

170 From when I could read books without any pictures in them, ...


I would like to propose a sub-thread: what was your first non-picture book?

Mine was "Rascal", by Sterling North. Kid in 1918 Minnesota with the Spanish Influenza and the War and Lutherans in the background adopts an orphaned raccoon and after a year has to let him go.

I recently learned that all of Japan fell in love with that story and brought in raccoons because they somehow missed the entire point of the story which is that raccoons are wild and are not pets.

So Japan is overrun with raccoons now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:06 AM (fuK7c)

171 Not Historical Fiction but I do enjoy Alternate History. Just got done reading Red Phoenix about North Korea invading the South in 1986 interesting read and since its before the Gulf War when nobody knew how good our Military really was as compared to Soviet tech.

The Sequel was just as good Red Phoenix Burning, I found this more interesting, a Coup kills the Kim's and leaves the North into chaos and factions fight for power. I felt the book was too short I felt it should have had a squad level insights like the first book.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 10:06 AM (dKiJG)

172 Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (9q7Dl)

Nakamichi was high end gear....I've still got one in a closet 'round here somewhere.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 10:06 AM (0+nbW)

173 The downhill slide was just beginning. I haven't been back in decades. Mrs H is Lutheran so I'd go with her sporadically, it was ok but I found their liturgy very unsatisfying, and then she got pissed off at them for different reasons so we've been heathens for a while.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2018 09:58 AM (y7DUB)


Same here for Mrs. Cop and myself, although we are Roman Catholics ourselves. I remember those folk services when I was kid in the late 60s-early 70s and even then I was thinking, "WTF?" You would think that the current Vicar of Christ would have better things to do about than natter about global warming, the evils of capitalism and giving Pontifical medals to abortionists. He seems to totally ignore the genocide of Christians in the Middle East. History will not be kind to Frankie the Red.

The Leftists have subverted the Catholic church and the leadership has gone all-in for globalism and collectivism.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 21, 2018 10:08 AM (5Yee7)

174 In an earlier comment I mentioned concentrating on wonderful writing and used Churchill and Lewis as examples. I should expand that to effective writing. That would include Louis L'Amour and Rex Stout. L'Amour can let you see the vistas and smell the camp fire smoke. Stout gives us delightful language use (he won my heart when Nero Wolfe used the word 'thaumaturge') and a feel for the time of the story.

Add essays of EB White and the humor of PG Wodehouse and you have years of exquisite reading ahead.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 10:09 AM (V+03K)

175 I would like to propose a sub-thread: what was your first non-picture book?

I don't remember my first non-picture book but I do remember my first SciFi book: Spacehounds of IPC by E. E. Smith.

My world was never the same.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (WbIyz)

176 The issue of differences between men and women is really quite simple.

If you are a woman, gay man or mentally ill person who believes you are some gender other than as you were born: please compare, contrast and discuss. Your views are free to vacillate as convenience suits you.

If you are a heterosexual male, particularly a non-Muslim white male, shut up.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (BsGS1)

177 Bucks County?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Yup. Was Doylestown High School in Michener's day, Central Bucks West in mine. Same school. Still there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (fuK7c)

178 Reminds me of an Episcopalian joke:

A life-long Episcopalian watches as the lesbian bishop processes in fully nude, offers prayers to Isis, Astarte and Moloch and then looks on approvingly as the choir begins an orgy right in front of the altar.

Our Episcopalian turns in disgust to his companion and says, "You know, if they change one more thing about the liturgy, I am outta here!!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (/qEW2)

179 Well done and thanks to the 'rons who mentioned Fraser and Flashman. That series is the epitome of Historical Fiction - the fictitious character interacts with history and historical figures, and provides a delicious explanation for actual events - researched and footnoted, all with a great style. And, as has been mentioned here before, Fraser's "Quartered Safe Out Here" is magnificent.

If, however, the story was inverted, for example, about Bismarck, and his artistic interaction with fictitious characters... well, i'd rather just read his biography.


Posted by: goatexchange at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (YFnq5)

180 Nakamichi was high end gear....I've still got one in a closet 'round here somewhere.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 10:06 AM (0+nbW)


A younger me would've been jealous.

I aspired to one day having Nakamishi gear like I aspired to have a nice sports car.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (9q7Dl)

181 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:42 AM (fuK7c)

That's how I feel about Don Quixote as well. The side stories were sort of interesting, and he was somewhat less harsh to the main character in the second book, but over all I hated it. I've heard that it was a satire about a lazy, entitled, aristocrat retreating into delusion as a way to give himself an excuse to destroy the symbols of the advancing bourgeois (and can sort of see that and, given the delusions of our self-proclaimed "betters", it may even be relevant) but I don't enjoy satire and especially loathe book-length satire.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (rp9xB)

182 That chair needs one of those tacky plastic mats underneath.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 09:02 AM (Sfs6o)


Yeah, the chair has wheels. This might be the libarry of somebody with wealth, but it's not someone with taste.*

*full discloser, I am typing this whilst sitting on a chair with wheels.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (Pz4pT)

183 California lawmakers want to claw back some of the money companies recieved from the Trump tax cuts...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/286522/

Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2018 10:12 AM (LiyEm)

184 Tying this all together, sofa, book, music, naturalfake himself was the rich ambergris enhanced scent of "The Blackest Soul of the Blackest Rose", the custom cologne, which Creed, perfumery to the famous and wealthy, had created for naturalfake and naturalfake alone...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:02 AM (9q7Dl)
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Please tell me it came in a vial carved from the thigh bone of Algernon Swinburne.

Just say it and you have a book and movie deal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 10:13 AM (qJtVm)

185 Add me to the admirers of the Patrick O'Brian series of novels. My wonderful wife acquired the full collection for me some years ago and I have read them through 4 or 5 times.
I found the Gettysburg Trilogy by William Forstchen and Newt Gingrich to be an interesting read. Speculative "what-if" stories that alter the events of the Civil War but nonetheless kept me reading for hours. The depictions of battles and strategic considerations I found to be first rate. The three books are: Gettysburg, Grant Comes East, and Never Call Retreat.

Posted by: George V at January 21, 2018 10:13 AM (LUHWu)

186 I would like to propose a sub-thread: what was your first non-picture book?
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I don't remember my first non-picture book but I do remember my first SciFi book: Spacehounds of IPC by E. E. Smith.

My world was never the same.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM


"The Stars are Ours" by Andre Norton. Read it at the start of sixth grade and it changed my world view for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:15 AM (GroCc)

187 Oh, how could I forget the Flashman books - lovely, rollicking reads, extensively researched, with notes and background essays...

First non-picture fiction book: Mary Jane Carr - Children of the Covered Wagon. Still available on Amazon, says there are illustrations. Which I don't recall; maybe chapter heading small illustrations?

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 21, 2018 10:16 AM (xnmPy)

188 Yeah, the chair has wheels. This might be the libarry of somebody with wealth, but it's not someone with taste.

Yep, the picture doesn't look like a lieberry. Looks like a lawyer's office. Law books on the shelves would complete the look.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:17 AM (GroCc)

189 Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 10:09 AM (V+03K)

I do not know if it was my first but I do remember reading the Mouse and the a Motorcycle pretty early.

My all time favorite book as a kid was Captains Courageous.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:17 AM (2DOZq)

190 No ottomans

Posted by: Joan Crawford at January 21, 2018 10:18 AM (q70zf)

191 "The last chapter shows how Luther's faith and
courage gave us the beginnings of the ideals of liberty, equality, and
individualism that are at the heart of our modern life. Posted by: Zoltan

That sounds interesting. The strength to break from any strong social construct (the Borg) is generally admirable, though just being "counter-culture" without a thoughtful process of reason can be its own "cult", as much of the sixties was/became.

Most Catholics here and others I know in the US seem able to think on their own, at least on many issues. It may be that the printing press then, like the internet now, made centralized control difficult.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 10:18 AM (otAqJ)

192 Antemeridian salutations, Horde.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 10:19 AM (NWiLs)

193 I have decided to fervently hate the owner of this room, so now I've decided that the ceiling map was there when he bought the place with his parvenu fell into nouveau riches.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (fuK7c)


The library was designed by Iranian architectural desecrator Haleh Alemzadeh Niroo who "works in partnership with Niroo Masterpieces to conceptualize new quality estates" (translation: noveau riche clients with far more money than taste). Naturally, she is based in Washington, DC and registered as a Democrat. To my eye, her work is almost universally awful, but you can judge for yourself here: http://www.halehdesigninc.com/.

Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 10:19 AM (2cg7P)

194 I was told there would be James Mitchener.

Posted by: PhilDirt at January 21, 2018 10:20 AM (q70zf)

195 re: to coin a phrase.


Excuse me, but just because a couple of hipster dufus bloggers misuse a word out of ignorance doesn't mean that the definition has changed. That's just de-minted!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:21 AM (wPiJc)

196 Thanks for the prayers for George. He's been diificult at times but had been trying to live differently since the first heart attack. He's in his fifties but ruined his body with meth. They really can't do anything else for him now. Wish he'd gone to the doctor earlier as he has looked unwell for weeks.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:22 AM (Lqy/e)

197 Add me to the admirers of the Patrick O'Brian series of novels. My wonderful wife acquired the full collection for me some years ago and I have read them through 4 or 5 times.

Posted by: George V at January 21, 2018 10:13 AM (LUHWu)


Mrs. Muse loves his seafaring novels, but she once made the mistake of Googling for information with the image search function on and I could hear her cries of disgust three rooms away.

Apparently, there's a gay porn actor named Patrick O'Brien...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:22 AM (79cAK)

198 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:42 AM (fuK7c)

That's how I feel about Don Quixote as well. The side stories were sort of interesting, and he was somewhat less harsh to the main character in the second book, but over all I hated it. I've heard that it was a satire about a lazy, entitled, aristocrat retreating into delusion as a way to give himself an excuse to destroy the symbols of the advancing bourgeois (and can sort of see that and, given the delusions of our self-proclaimed "betters", it may even be relevant) but I don't enjoy satire and especially loathe book-length satire.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (rp9xB)


Wow, I think you were misled then. It's not really satire. If you allowed yourselves to be forced to read it that way, somebody misled you.

Bander, Cervantes did NOT make fun of his protagonist. He allowed a man, who was clearly psychotic, to roam the world, having adventures, during which MOST people he encountered tolerated him beyond the point of expectation, and he was indulged in his fantasies way more than THIS world would do. And all throughout, we are treated to a man who, while clearly insane, is also kind and smart and wise and witty. He entertain, and some people use his insanity for their own purposes, but for the most part, he's not really harmed by them. Except when he sorta deserves it.

Cervantes presents Quixote as he is, and allows the world to respond to him. It's not really satire at all! Sure, there's some mild class stuff there, but then in Cervantes' day, there couldn't not be.

And in the end, he's redeemed in peace. Surrounded by people who love him and care for him. And Sancho returns to his family, humbled somewhat, because of the two, perhaps he should have known better, and he is none the worse for his adventure either.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:22 AM (Pz4pT)

199 The library was designed by Iranian architectural desecrator Haleh Alemzadeh Niroo who "works in partnership with Niroo Masterpieces to conceptualize new quality estates"


Wow. That read like parody but I clicked through and ... wow.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:23 AM (fuK7c)

200 We have discussed it before but the Scholastic Book Club was the greatest thing to me as a kid in school. Ordering the books and the anticipation of them being delivered was like waiting for Christmas morning.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:23 AM (2DOZq)

201 pants would be required in that library ... would make me feel too ostentatious.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 10:24 AM (otAqJ)

202 prayers for George, Notsothoreau

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 10:24 AM (hMwEB)

203 Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 10:19 AM (2cg7P)

I wouldn't call it awful, but it feels prefabricated and predigested for easy consumption. This is what a rich person's house looks like.

If I'm gonna go nouveau riche, it better have some gilt cherubs and maroon velvet flock wallpaper.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 10:24 AM (qJtVm)

204 Please tell me it came in a vial carved from the thigh bone of Algernon Swinburne.

Just say it and you have a book and movie deal.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 10:13 AM (qJtVm)



"The Blackest Soul of the Blackest Rose" was housed in a vial carved from the thighbone of Mata Hari and inscribed with salacious illustrations from the forbidden, and thought to be lost, parts of the Kama Sutra.









(Sorry. )

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:25 AM (9q7Dl)

205 Bander, Cervantes did NOT make fun of his protagonist. He allowed a man, who was clearly psychotic, to roam the world, having adventures, during which MOST people he encountered tolerated him beyond the point of expectation, and he was indulged in his fantasies way more than THIS world would do.


OK, those are interesting points. I may give him another chance with that in mind.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:26 AM (fuK7c)

206 I would like to propose a sub-thread: what was your first non-picture book?


******

I would guess it was Hardy Boys mysteries

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:27 AM (wPiJc)

207 The library was designed by Iranian architectural desecrator Haleh Alemzadeh Niroo who "works in partnership with Niroo Masterpieces to conceptualize new quality estates" (translation: noveau riche clients with far more money than taste). Naturally, she is based in Washington, DC and registered as a Democrat. To my eye, her work is almost universally awful, but you can judge for yourself here: http://www.halehdesigninc.com/.
Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 10:19 AM (2cg7P)

The kitchen is cookie-cutter. It's nice but uninspired. It looks like every other kitchen I've seen in recently-built gated community houses. The other rooms are either French aristocracy gaudy or movie-set artificial. There's no soul or personality.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 10:27 AM (NWiLs)

208 Most Catholics here and others I know in the US seem able to think on their own, at least on many issues. It may be that the printing press then, unlike the internet now, made centralized control difficult.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 10:18 AM (otAqJ)


========

FIFY.

Posted by: Messrs. Dorsey, Zuck & Schmidt at January 21, 2018 10:28 AM (/qEW2)

209 Meth has to be the worst drug out there. I wonder if the CIA distributed it to do away with white people? /s

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

210 Yeah, the chair has wheels. This might be the libarry of somebody with wealth, but it's not someone with taste.
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Yep, the picture doesn't look like a lieberry. Looks like a lawyer's office. Law books on the shelves would complete the look.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:17 AM (GroCc)


Behind the chair, a model ship. So... for some reason, I decided, this is the libarry of a highly successful insurance salesman.

Off to the side, where we can't see, a huge plasma tv. Or possibly a pinball machine, with flashy cartoony bikini clad chicks and hot cars.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:29 AM (Pz4pT)

211 The desk doesn't look English and it is most certainly not 18th century
Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 09:05 AM (4u7kU)

The desk and shelving look to be made in the Federalist style.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 10:29 AM (R5lpX)

212 No way could i remember my first non-picture book... but an early possibility might be "A Boy Ten Feet Tall." The SBC was also a fabulous resource. I am sure i plunged directly into WWII history books by age 8 or so, as my dad and all my friends dad's were WWII vets.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 21, 2018 10:30 AM (YFnq5)

213 Past Obsession by Richard Kieth Taylor. I'm a sucker for time travel. This is about a freelance writer who gets an assignment to do a piece on an unknown artist gruseomely murdered in 1942 who is now becoming very well respected. Seeing her self pPast Obsession by Richard Kieth Taylor. I'm a sucker for time travel. This is about a freelance writer who gets an assignment to do a piece on an unknown artist gruseomely murdered in 1942 who is now becoming very well respected. Seeing her self portrait causes him to become obsessed with her eventually leading him to believe he knew her in life. He decides he must travel 75 years back in time and save her. But writers (Ace excluded) don't have ready access to time machines so he . . . .

I liked this book but was rather dissatisfied by the ending. I didn't know why because I didn't see it coming (although there were clues). I eventually decided it ended too abruptly leaving loose ends I was very interested in following up. Things I did like were the seeming historical accuracy (with one glaring exception), the contrast between LA in 1942 and today, and speculation on the nature of time; is it flexible like a rubberband, set like a bug in amber, or an infinite number of dimensions? The one historical inaccuracy is that in order to convince a character that our hero is a time travelor and not a psycho he describes the results of the Battle Midway which are confirmed in the local paper the day after the battle. Such information was not publicly available and certainly not that quickly.

I recommend this book for any time travel fans. I thought it was well written and excitingortrait causes him to become obsessed with her eventually leading him to believe he knew her in life. He decides he must travel 75 years back in time and save her. But writers (Ace excluded) don't have ready access to time machines so he . . . .

I liked this book but was rather dissatisfied by the ending. I didn't know why because I didn't see it coming (although there were clues). I eventually decided it ended too abruptly leaving loose ends I was very interested in following up. Things I did like were the seeming historical accuracy (with one glaring exception), the contrast between LA in 1942 and today, and speculation on the nature of time; is it flexible like a rubberband, set like a bug in amber, or an infinite number of dimensions? The one historical inaccuracy is that in order to convince a character that our hero is a time travelor and not a psycho he describes the results of the Battle Midway which are confirmed in the local paper the day after the battle. Such information was not publicly available and certainly not that quickly.

I recommend this book for any time travel fans. I thought it was well written and exciting

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 10:30 AM (+y/Ru)

214 Missing church because I'm home sick, and reading historical fiction Christmas gift the Killer Angels as we speak.

Speaking of church, God help us all if that "OMG men and women are like, totes different on the inside, guys!" blurb is real.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 10:31 AM (ks6bw)

215 209 Meth has to be the worst drug out there. I wonder if the CIA distributed it to do away with white people? /s

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:28 AM (2DOZq)



You might as well start and spread the rumor.

It would be of a piece with Obama's racist polarization of the FBI, DOJ, etc

and thus........believable!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:31 AM (9q7Dl)

216 My first non-picture book. Wow! Talk about returning to the misty past!

I am guessing but it was probably one of the Hardy Boys books. I was in second grade when I read Heinlein's "The Rolling Stones" and I know I was reading non-picture books before then. I did keep a dictionary handy as my grandfather required. I wasnt allowed to ask about a word or phrase if I hadn't tried the dictionary first. If it was still beyond me, questions were welcomed. It was an effective approach.

It was a couple of years later that I discovered 'Doc' Smith's Lensman series, then the Skylark series. I've been re-reading and enjoying them ever since.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2018 10:31 AM (V+03K)

217 The Killer Angels is excellent, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 10:32 AM (ks6bw)

218 I have to admit that a large part of my reading when I was a kid was Archie and Richie Rich comic books.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:32 AM (2DOZq)

219 And speaking of libraries, my husband has put on a small event at the central Multnomah county library, for about ten years. They have these great old boat magazine in their closed stacks. The guys from the Messabout group go and read the books and talk boats. Some come up from Eugene for it. We have a perfect record for returning the books and it is open to the public.

The guy we've always worked with retired. The new guy gave us a lot of grief. Wasn't going to let us use the room at first, until reassured it was open to the public. Then told us that we had to check out all the books on the morning of the event. Fortunately the folks doing the actual work had it ready for us. It went okay but we think this may be our last time. If we had a get together for transgender boat builders, we'd probably be fine.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:32 AM (Lqy/e)

220 Behind the chair, a model ship.


Now if this were a model ship he built from a Revell kit back when he was a kid and he'd saved it because, like, Rosebud, he might have a soul.

I think that Iranian girl designer just bought it off Ebay.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:32 AM (fuK7c)

221 I have decided to fervently hate the owner of this
room, so now I've decided that the ceiling map was there when he bought
the place with his parvenu fell into nouveau riches.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 09:16 AM (fuK7c)


Ask instead why he chose to sit directly under Iceland, ey?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (2K6fY)

222 Going to have to say it looks like a girls desk.

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (Sfs6o)

223 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:22 AM (Pz4pT)

Except that he's *not* kind, smart, wise, or witty. At all. He's a jerk who demands others support his delusion. He routinely damaged the lives of those who had done him no harm and left those he "helped" worse off than they had been while preening himself on his goodness. If it isn't satire there's even less use for it.

Yes, in the second book he does better. But that was because Cervantes realized everyone had misunderstood the first book and if *he* didn't profit from turning it into a more straight-forward adventure story someone else would. He says as much in the forward to the second volume.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (rp9xB)

224 Bander, Cervantes did NOT make fun of his protagonist. He allowed a man, who was clearly psychotic, to roam the world, having adventures, during which MOST people he encountered tolerated him beyond the point of expectation, and he was indulged in his fantasies way more than THIS world would do.

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OK, those are interesting points. I may give him another chance with that in mind.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:26 AM (fuK7c)


What I know of Cervantes is not much, but I believe he was a p.o.w. at one point, in some war or another with the Turks/Moors/Whatever, and he was definitely writing under the auspices of a wealthy patron.

I wonder how much of this is exaggerated autobiography. How much did Cervantes roam the world (in his youth, not as a senior, as Quixote is), having adventures, observing the insanity and the futility of it all.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (Pz4pT)

225 Past Obsession by Richard Kieth Taylor. I'm a sucker for time travel. This is about a freelance writer who gets an assignment to do a piece on an unknown artist gruseomely murdered in 1942 who is now becoming very well respected. Seeing her self pPast Obsession by Richard Kieth Taylor. I'm a sucker for time travel. This is about a freelance writer who gets an assignment to do a piece on an unknown artist gruseomely murdered in 1942 who is now becoming very well respected. Seeing

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Okay, that was a wonderful accident considering the topic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 10:34 AM (ks6bw)

226 To coin a phrase, all that glitters is not gold.

Did I do it right?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:34 AM (2DOZq)

227 My father gave me 'Robinson Crusoe' by Defoe when i was 7 or 8.
But i think it had illustrations at the begining of each chapter,


I thank the horde for all the authors and books that have been mentioned.

This afternoon shall be spent at the downtown library.

Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (eup66)

228 There's a book I really want to read. It's called "The FISA-702 House Intelligence Memo". But Democrats won't let me.

Which is odd because they read it.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (Ndje9)

229 Hmmm Haleh design ~ I am guessing is for those persons at the head of government in the Syrian regime who got out just before the sh*t hit the fan and they are redecorating their $100M (yes I got it from confiscating the oil wealth of those families I raped, tortured and murdered for fun~ How else is a guy supposed to make a living?!) homes in florida. Sort of in the Beauty and the Beast "after the curse got lifted" style. You know: reserved and demure.

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (0YSzp)

230 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:22 AM (Pz4pT)

Except that he's *not* kind, smart, wise, or witty. At all. He's a jerk who demands others support his delusion. He routinely damaged the lives of those who had done him no harm and left those he "helped" worse off than they had been while preening himself on his goodness. If it isn't satire there's even less use for it.

Yes, in the second book he does better. But that was because Cervantes realized everyone had misunderstood the first book and if *he* didn't profit from turning it into a more straight-forward adventure story someone else would. He says as much in the forward to the second volume.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (rp9xB)


I'm sorry you see it that way. I mean no disrespect, but it's not because it's not there. It's because you've chosen not to see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (Pz4pT)

231 Looks to me like the Chandelier of Damocles.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (wPiJc)

232 Same school. Still there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:10 AM (fuK7c)

That's a nice part of PA. I have spent some time along the Delaware in that area. And I went to school about 20 miles east of there....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 10:36 AM (wYseH)

233 209 Meth has to be the worst drug out there. I wonder if the CIA distributed it to do away with white people? /s

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:28 AM (2DOZq)


Meth is the drug our parents warned us about, back in the day. Everything they said about the dangers of marijuana LSD, and cocaine is true for meth. It's almost impossible to exaggerate how bad it is.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:36 AM (79cAK)

234 I wish I had a nickel for every time I had coined a phrase.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (wPiJc)

235 Meth is the drug our parents warned us about, back in the day. Everything they said about the dangers of marijuana LSD, and cocaine is true for meth. It's almost impossible to exaggerate how bad it is.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:36 AM (79cAK)

But does it lead to frenetic ragtime piano playing?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (NWiLs)

236 231 Looks to me like the Chandelier of Damocles.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (wPiJc)


I saw Frodo and the Rings of Boom open for Chandelier of Damocles back in 1977.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:38 AM (79cAK)

237 wish I had a nickel for every time I had coined a phrase.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (wPiJc)

That was a triple lindy you just pulled off. Impressive.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:38 AM (2DOZq)

238 234 I wish I had a nickel for every time I had coined a phrase.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (wPiJc)


I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:39 AM (79cAK)

239 231 Looks to me like the Chandelier of Damocles.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (wPiJc)

Pretty sure that's what happens to tampons when moistened

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 10:39 AM (4u7kU)

240 Brian Jones was murdered by a thug doing construction work for him. There were multiple witnesses but they were too scared to talk. The interesting thing is the thug later claimed to have gotten a death bed confession from one of his workers. The cops knew who did it but couldn't prove it. Can't remember the name of the thug right now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (Lqy/e)

241 That's is one expensive room. The dude has a frigging world map for a ceiling.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (aMlLZ)

242

Now that the government is shutdown, Planet Earth risks ... an undetected asteroid strike!

That's the warning coming from CNN, anyway.

Reporter Tom Foreman on Friday hyped the threat posed by the government shutdown, citing a pause in some senior nutrition programs, a loss of scientific research, and NASA's asteroid monitoring system. Worse, an asteroid is coming February 4th, he said.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (IqV8l)

243
To my eye, her work is almost universally awful, but you can judge for yourself


The taste ... it is all in her mouth!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (pNxlR)

244 " It may be that the printing press then, unlike the internet now, made centralized control difficult.

Posted by: illiniwek ========

FIFY. Posted by: Messrs. Dorsey, Zuck Schmidt

ha, good point, certainly Google FB the rest are trying to censor and control via such control, even reading our private messages.

BUT overall I think the individual has more access to alternative media. Governments also tried to control the print media, NYSlimes still adjusts their top ten book lists so some don't appear. But today even a moron can be published. (though under a President Hillary that might have been dangerous)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (otAqJ)

245
Worse, an asteroid is coming February 4th, he said.


Do you now see how Pooty-Poot's evil design comes to fruition?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2018 10:42 AM (pNxlR)

246 That's is one expensive room. The dude has a frigging world map for a ceiling.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (aMlLZ)

I have to admit, that is the one thing I really like in that room.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:42 AM (2DOZq)

247 Brian Jones was murdered by a thug doing construction work for him.


That's the story line in a movie that came out a few years ago. If anything, it was an assist. Brian Jones was very thoroughly killing himself at the time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:42 AM (fuK7c)

248 I missed the Avery recommendations earlier. On the one hand, I'm cool toward Parker and positively dislike Macdonald. On the other, well, it's sailing. I did like John R L Anderson's Death in the North Sea.

When I was younger, my preferred reading position was sideways in an easy chair with rounded arms. Mom kept objecting, though. Claimed it was bad for the chair and my back; I've always believed it was just the maternal hatred of anything not done her way. But I got such a chair in college.

For my money, O'Brian and Graves stand atop historical fiction. I'm not sure there's even a third. Maybe Irving on New Amsterdam.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 10:43 AM (+TcCF)

249 That's is one expensive room. The dude has a frigging world map for a ceiling.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:40 AM (aMlLZ)

I have to admit, that is the one thing I really like in that room.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 10:42 AM (2DOZq)


I know, that's intense. Convenient too.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:45 AM (aMlLZ)

250 That ceiling looks a bit like it came from one of those snazzy wallpaper companies.

My Mom, who was an Interior Designer, would occasionally use these really cool wallpapers with historical scenes set in China or Africa or English fox hunts,Indians (both kinds), Morocco, etc.,

that were reproductions of 19th and early 20th century wallpapers.

Sort of like this companies stuff:

http://www.aldiament.com


But, better. Can't remember the companies name right now.

Those would be hellacool assuming you had the vast empty wallspace required.

I don't.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:45 AM (9q7Dl)

251 That's is one expensive room. The dude has a frigging world map for a ceiling.

After those details were pointed out, antique map on the ceiling, model warship behind the desk, I'll have to revise my conclusion. Could still be a lawyer's office but might be third generation trust fund baby who inherited the family fortune made in the shipping industry or in the ship building trade.

Although, insurance salesman is still a good bet. Loyds of London, third generation, perhaps.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:46 AM (GroCc)

252 To my eye, her work is almost universally awful, but you can judge for yourself here: http://www.halehdesigninc.com/.
Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 10:19 AM (2cg7P)


Ack! I had to stop scrolling. Too much blonde, everywhere. It's like someone threw up cream all over the place.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:46 AM (Pz4pT)

253 Haleh design ~ It's blah in an overdone way. There's an entry hall that looks like typical American design and it's clear the "designers" added a lattice archway just to add something. Looks flimsy and out-of-place.

I'm returning Corey's Leviathan Wakes unfinished. Better luck in the summer, when I have more free time.

I bought a Kindle copy of The Director's Cut and Thirteen Moons, which I just downloaded. I think I may have a better chance of finishing a book if I read it ove4 several Sundays.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 21, 2018 10:47 AM (G8B7r)

254 If I was building that library in the picture the overhead soffits would be secret compartments and there is certainly room for a leather couch off to the right next to the bay window. And the ceramic cat 4th shelf on right real cat is laying in that window.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 10:48 AM (aC6Sd)

255 So Japan is overrun with raccoons now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 10:06 AM (fuK7c)

My daughter was reading a story of people trapping raccoons at dumpsters in urban setting and shipping them off to China where they think they are some kind of North American panda bear thing.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2018 10:49 AM (BtQd4)

256
The books in that room do not get read, the ceiling map is cloyingly devoid of information (ergo, faux) and her designs in general are for folks who dearly wish for illegal aliens to continue flooding over the border because they are housework horrors.

Off to the gym!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2018 10:49 AM (pNxlR)

257 I wish I had a nickel for every time I had coined a phrase.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (wPiJc)

I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 21, 2018 10:39 AM (79cAK)


My brother is a son of a bitch. He insults our mother!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:49 AM (Pz4pT)

258 Tim Powers isn't exactly historical fiction. He weaves his stories in between the historical events so that they could potentially explain the known facts. Except his stories are blatantly supernatural. He's often treated as a sci-fi/fantasy writer because of this, but ultimately, he's pretty unique. Actually, now that I say that, I would say that his ideas are pretty similar to Charles Williams, one of the Inklings. I'm currently reading Last Call, which involves the Fisher King in Las Vegas. Everything I've read by him is just great. It's gold, Jerry, it's gold!

Posted by: Jim S. at January 21, 2018 10:50 AM (ynUnH)

259 No ottoman for me.

I'm the king of my Ottoman Empire.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always reads... at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM (Tyii7)

260 I found the Gettysburg Trilogy by William Forstchen and Newt Gingrich to be an interesting read. Speculative "what-if" stories that alter the events of the Civil War but nonetheless kept me reading for hours. The depictions of battles and strategic considerations I found to be first rate. The three books are: Gettysburg, Grant Comes East, and Never Call Retreat.
Posted by: George V at January 21, 2018 10:13 AM (LUHWu)

Added to my list, William Forstchen wrote the great Lost Regiment series, about a Civil War regiment gets transported to another World where Humans are Slaves

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM (dKiJG)

261
I would have been more impressed if she had placed Tolkien's Map of Middle Earth on the ceiling.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM (pNxlR)

262 Re-reading "Vanity Fair" for maybe the 10th time. Could almost be described as historical fiction, since the Napoleonic Wars play such a prominent part. Fantastic novel with wicked satirical wit. Like to read it while listening to concerts on YouTube. Often with a glass of something cheerful in my hand.

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM (QE8X6)

263 Although, insurance salesman is still a good bet. Loyds of London, third generation, perhaps.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:46 AM (GroCc)


I knew a guy who was THE agent for a large insurance agency. One of the higher end companies... swimming in wealth, he was. At one point he went to China. This was a time when going to China wasn't necessarily something Americans did. Was gone for a month. Says he took "a little boat to China," and I never knew exactly what that meant. Not a cruise ship, obviously. Probably chartered. Possibly owned, not by him, but by somebody in his social circle, who was able to invite him for a month to indulge in month-long boat trip to China.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:53 AM (Pz4pT)

264 Those would be hellacool assuming you had the vast empty wallspace required.

I don't.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 10:45 AM

I have nautical maps with courses plotted for the Port Huron-Mackinaw Island race. Cool to look at, but would be expensive to frame and take up the guest room wall.

My grandfather had a huge geological map of Michigan's Upper Peninsula framed and hanging over his basement desk (he had been a mining engineer). I believe he framed it using glass from a picture-window.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 21, 2018 10:53 AM (G8B7r)

265 There used to be a blog by a guy that worked for Allen Klein and with the Rolling Stones. He was convinced Jones was murdered (as was Klein) and that is what got me interested in it. There were two women in the pool with him when he drowned that witnessed it. There were a couple of guys that were outside the fence that saw the man push Jones under. Jones had asthma and always had his inhaler by the pool when he was in the water. It's pretty convincing. Jones definitely screwed up his life with drugs. There's nothing that suggests he was suicidal.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:53 AM (Lqy/e)

266 Oh and glad I have 4wd, it gets over the bodies on the road much easier

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 10:53 AM (aC6Sd)

267 I am not reading any historical fiction, though I do love the O'Brien series.

I am now reading Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom, which is a condensation of a number of speeches into a book reviewing how capitalism and freedom interact.

Friedman is a very engaging writer, and presents his case very successfully. It had insights that I had not thought of, put in ways that make them accessible.

I recommend it to you all, I think it can be found as a free PDF online

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 10:54 AM (2K6fY)

268 My favorites are The King Must Die

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I read that in high school and loved it. I also loved the sequel, A Bull From the Sea. It was only later that I learned the historical and mythical basis for these stories.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 10:54 AM (+y/Ru)

269 But does it lead to frenetic ragtime piano playing?
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 10:37 AM (NWiLs)

Ummmmmm....Yes. And Lawn mower disassembly.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2018 10:55 AM (EoRCO)

270 Notice in the library pic the spines of the books on the desk face the visitor, not the reader at the desk. Poseur.

Ostentatious and actually, the desk, IMNSHO, is very poorly executed - even without a close, detailed exam. I apprenticed in a high end cabinet shop in Boston a thousand years ago. The Master would have said of the piece *it is a well made mess*.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 10:55 AM (tr2D7)

271 >> I've heard that it was a satire about a lazy, entitled, aristocrat retreating into delusion as a way to give himself an excuse to destroy the symbols of the advancing bourgeois.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (rp9xB)

It's a hilarious satire of something we have almost no concept of today--chivalry, and the spell it cast over the literary imagination for several hundred years.

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (QE8X6)

272 Neil Stephenson's "Baroque Series" is crackin' good historical fiction -- it's got Newton, Louis XIV, Liebnitz, William of Orange, pirates, Turks, codebreakers, the birth of international finance, young Benjy Franklin, John Churchill, the Spanish Inquisition, and probably some stuff I'm forgetting.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (owoHM)

273 After those details were pointed out, antique map on the ceiling, model warship behind the desk, I'll have to revise my conclusion. Could still be a lawyer's office but might be third generation trust fund baby who inherited the family fortune made in the shipping industry or in the ship building trade.

Although, insurance salesman is still a good bet. Loyds of London, third generation, perhaps.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 10:46 AM (GroCc)


Or..... an eccentric retard that can build the shit. lol

I built the exact same style of book cases here. I just don't have the upper and lower raised panels because I went ceiling to floor, but the corbels and fluted moldings and crown is the same style, and the book cases are 32" wide. $1500 worth of material. I had to make everything, it took 1 1/2 months to do working almost every day. Over 180 miters just on the top alone. I was spent, I still haven't stained the shelves yet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:57 AM (aMlLZ)

274 Here's a synopsis on the Brian Jones murder theory:

http://reut.rs/2mZBj96

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 10:57 AM (Lqy/e)

275 Neil Stephenson's "Baroque Series" is crackin' good historical fiction -- it's got Newton, Louis XIV, Liebnitz, William of Orange, pirates, Turks, codebreakers, the birth of international finance, young Benjy Franklin, John Churchill, the Spanish Inquisition, and probably some stuff I'm forgetting.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (owoHM)

So...kind of an early Forrest Gump?

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 10:58 AM (0+nbW)

276 224: We, as a modern society, indulge many fantasies: Islam is peace, transgenderism, and violent or parasitic illegals are sweetie pies.

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 10:59 AM (5gaNQ)

277 and probably some stuff I'm forgetting.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (owoHM)


Huguenots. Stacks of 'em.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 21, 2018 10:59 AM (y87Qq)

278 Jones definitely screwed up his life with drugs. There's nothing that suggests he was suicidal.


No, not suicidal but on the way to killing himself anyway. The Hyde Park concert that ended up being a tribute to him was already planned and he'd already been replaced by Mick Taylor because he couldn't show up and he couldn't do anything coherent.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:01 AM (fuK7c)

279 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 10:11 AM (rp9xB)

It's a hilarious satire of something we have almost no concept of today--chivalry, and the spell it cast over the literary imagination for several hundred years.
Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (QE8X6)


As I was reading, I had the sense that chivalry, while it was certainly being satired, it wasn't really taken seriously at the time. It was more like modern day professional "wrestling." Except, instead of tv shows and events that fill arenas, they had those books. And the traveling showmen. Entertainment for the poor folk.

And here we had a gentleman of leisure, believing he was a practitioner of the art! Imagine if your grandpa, after sitting there watching WWF for years, suddenly decided to put on tights, and go right wrongs in this world as a traveling wrestler, with a persona of being a do-gooder.

How would this world treat him?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

280 Anonosaurus @ 268

If those are the only two Renault books you've read, you would it to yourself to read the others.

Fire from Heaven and The Persian Boy are Alexander the Great. The Mask of Apollo introduces Plato. The Last of the Wine brings in Alcibiades. These are all prime grade good reads and may send you scurrying to 'real' history.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:03 AM (usxh5)

281 I apprenticed in a high end cabinet shop in Boston a thousand years ago.


That sounds like a really cool thing to do. We should each get a thousand lifetimes so that we could each get a chance to do all the cool things.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:03 AM (fuK7c)

282 Favorite historical novel: Gone With The Wind. It's a damn good piece of writing even if you do want to slap Scarlett with a dead flounder for her Ashley obsession.

Other than that, I've read a ton of Michener, and Uris, and enjoyed both. I've read some Follett but the contemporary stuff, so I just got "Pillars of the Earth" because it sounds right up my alley.

Right now I'm reading about opera as I was toying with the idea of a mystery series, but that's only after I write my intense hatred for Seattle out of my system.

Posted by: Tonestaple at January 21, 2018 11:05 AM (V15Jb)

283 Read that link about Brian Jones, I get unsolved murder mystery but its a bit like looking into Jack the Ripper.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 11:05 AM (aC6Sd)

284 We, as a modern society, indulge many fantasies: Islam is peace, transgenderism, and violent or parasitic illegals are sweetie pies.
Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 10:59 AM (5gaNQ)


Excellent point.

Not the same types of insanity, but insanity nonetheless.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:05 AM (Pz4pT)

285 Notice in the library pic the spines of the books on the desk face the visitor, not the reader at the desk. Poseur.



Ostentatious and actually, the desk, IMNSHO, is very poorly executed
- even without a close, detailed exam. I apprenticed in a high end
cabinet shop in Boston a thousand years ago. The Master would have said
of the piece *it is a well made mess*.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 10:55 AM (tr2D7)


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Ha. That's an interesting point. I'd still love to have the ability and facility, but I wonder if this one is ever used other than for the same reason you buy a pretty painting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 21, 2018 11:05 AM (ks6bw)

286 Lurking Cynic & Anonosaurus, Mary Renault was one of my very first favorite writers.

I discovered a copy of Fire from Heaven in our house as a kid. Later I found The King Must Die. That along with a battered copy of Edith Hamilton's Mythology really kept me fascinated with Ancient Greece.

Another book I found on my dad's shelves was The Egyptian by Mika Waltari.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at January 21, 2018 11:05 AM (hMwEB)

287 284: And Cervantes' Spain was not beset with PC

Posted by: CN at January 21, 2018 11:06 AM (5gaNQ)

288 Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 10:56 AM (QE8X6)

The article I read was (I think) by Big Fur Hat, but it could have been a Russian emigre at Volokh's. Their contention was that Didn't n Quixote was often used by socialists/communists as an example of class warfare but that, if one thought about it, Don what's-his-face was actually part of a *governmental* class that was losing its stranglehold on both financial and social status and he didn't want to do the hard work now required to compete. So he withdrew into a fantasy that allowed him to both salve his pride and destroy the property of those who were supplanting him.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:06 AM (rp9xB)

289 I would love a deep blue ceiling with a map of the moon that glowed when you turned the Chihuly chandelier off.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 11:06 AM (qJtVm)

290 18 That map on the ceiling is perfect for lying back and thinking of England.
Posted by: The Six Million Dollar Vayjay at January 21, 2018 09:02 AM (UdKB7)

I expect that Victoria's love of sex (and that she did love it is clear) may have been helped by the fact that the Empire was hot shit in her day.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:07 AM (+TcCF)

291 "you would do it to ..." arrrrgggghhhhh - -- You owe it to yourself.

Sorry, edit, edit, edit.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:07 AM (usxh5)

292 If this is the Library Thread, where's the hoop?

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 21, 2018 11:08 AM (8cvCt)

293 I built the exact same style of book cases here. I just don't have the upper and lower raised panels because I went ceiling to floor, but the corbels and fluted moldings and crown is the same style, and the book cases are 32" wide. $1500 worth of material. I had to make everything, it took 1 1/2 months to do working almost every day. Over 180 miters just on the top alone. I was spent, I still haven't stained the shelves yet.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 10:57 AM (aMlLZ)

I'm not sure how to say with without it sounding weird, but you seem to embody almost everything I wish I could've been. I have both admiration and envy.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:08 AM (NWiLs)

294 Speaking of Fire from Heaven, I never forgave Colin Farrell and Oliver Stone for butchering it on-screen.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at January 21, 2018 11:09 AM (hMwEB)

295 I would love a deep blue ceiling with a map of the moon that glowed when you turned the Chihuly chandelier off.


You are the one, sole, and only writer on the HQ for whom I don't have to look at the byline to know who it is.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)

296 >>How would this world treat him?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

Yes, that's what it is. It's kind of a tricky question, because the idea of chivalry was still very popular in Cervantes' time--see "Orlando Furioso," an incredible, rollicking book. In fact even Milton was very interested in writing an Arthurian epic a hundred years later. But of course chivalry with its knights-errant was nothing like real life, as Cervantes wanted us to see.

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:10 AM (QE8X6)

297 259 No ottoman for me.

Pouf ??

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 11:11 AM (4u7kU)

298 Votermom ....

Mika Waltari introduced me to historical fiction in Jr. High School. From historical fiction I graduated to 'real' history and biographies. 75% of my reading now involves history in some way/shape/ or form.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:11 AM (usxh5)

299 I forgot Gwen Bristow: her stuff is more historical romances but the history is fairly solid and the books were written long enough ago to be entirely politically incorrect on slavery. My favorite is "Celia Garth" about the Revolutionary War in Charleston.

Another one I like was "Steamboat Gothic" by Francis Parkinson Keyes, set in post-Civil War Louisiana, running all the way up through WW I.

Posted by: Tonestaple at January 21, 2018 11:12 AM (V15Jb)

300 Cervantes was satirizing earlier romances, like the Orlando's by Ariosto (fun) and Boiardo (haven't read).

Also, Pollywog, of course the commies say that Quixote was "part of a *governmental* class that was losing its stranglehold on both financial and social status". That's their model and they're sticking to it. But that model - the perpetually rising new class supplanting the decaying old - has been a pox on historians since it took hold.

Fortunately, there's been strong pushback. I just read J H Hexter's evisceration of Christopher Hill, for instance. N A M Rodger is suitably skeptical about this, too. Because of the history of our nation's founding, we tend to be sucker for it, though.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:13 AM (+TcCF)

301 I will never forgive Oliver Stone.

It needs no limiting phrase.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:14 AM (usxh5)

302 Meth has to be the worst drug out there. I wonder if the CIA distributed it to do away with white people? /s

I've been wondering about exactly this for opioids in fact.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 11:15 AM (6FqZa)

303 You are the one, sole, and only writer on the HQ for whom I don't have to look at the byline to know who it is.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)
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*blushes fetchingly*

Wait, you mean that as a compliment, right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 11:15 AM (qJtVm)

304 Not sure if the setting was sufficiently past tese at the time it was written to qualify as historical fiction but the first Arkady Renko novel, Gorky Park by Martin Cruz Smith, was great. Much like Aztec, mentioned above, it put you into a different world.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 11:16 AM (+y/Ru)

305 I'm sorry you see it that way. I mean no
disrespect, but it's not because it's not there. It's because you've
chosen not to see it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (Pz4pT)


I took a Cervantes class because it was required as part of my degree, and that is how Cervantes' Don Quixote was taught in a liberal arts section of a very liberal college. And that is fairly common modern insight into Cervantes' master work.

However, I recently got to review some outlines of lectures for a Cervantes course from the Universidad de Francisco Marroquin in Guatemala (they had a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) ) and that one stresses Cervantes' support of liberty and his understanding of the Spanish Scholastics of the Salamanca school, and his use of that understanding to run his plotting and his characters.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (2K6fY)

306 How would this world treat him?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

Yes, that's what it is. It's kind of a tricky question, because the idea of chivalry was still very popular in Cervantes' time--see "Orlando Furioso," an incredible, rollicking book. In fact even Milton was very interested in writing an Arthurian epic a hundred years later. But of course chivalry with its knights-errant was nothing like real life, as Cervantes wanted us to see.
Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:10 AM (QE8X6)


Yes, I would imagine chivalry as a value, was still very present in that world, but not the form it took in those books.

Much like we might say about professional athletes of all sorts. They "go into battle," and we have master strategists who are coaches "commanding the troops."

Many of us can appreciate the sacrifice it takes to become professional athletes, but it would be, and is, silly to equate it to actual warfare.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (Pz4pT)

307 ...and that has to be the first time ever that "Orlando Furioso" was cited twice within 5 comments at the AOS HQ.

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (QE8X6)

308 Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:13 AM (+TcCF)

Actually, the usual take by socialists is that Quixote was fighting against "The Man" as opposed to *being* "The Man". Much like they see themselves as the eternal revolutionaries.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (rp9xB)

309 I love the fact that Cervantes was contrasting the grubby, cynical, unromantic world of his present with the glorious adventures of chivalric romances.

Cervantes was captured by pirates and saw off the Spanish Armada. That's pretty damned adventurous and romantic.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 11:20 AM (owoHM)

310 Thanks CBD,
Not been a good morning for trimming down the book wishlist.
Eric Metaxas book looks like it will definitely make its way into my library.

Definitely recommend Hornblower or any C.S. Forester title.

Posted by: Southeast PA lurker at January 21, 2018 11:20 AM (vFHFh)

311 I know Brian Jones was an asshole. I've read that he was cruel to Anita Pallenberg. He was also a talented musician and it's unlikely the Stones would have gotten their start without him. I actually saw the Stones in concert when he was with the band. He was as much of a focus then as Mick.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 21, 2018 11:20 AM (Lqy/e)

312 >>Many of us can appreciate the sacrifice it takes to become professional athletes, but it would be, and is, silly to equate it to actual warfare.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (Pz4pT)

Yes, I am not agreeing with Cervantes, just pointing out his provenance. Chivalry, as an ideal of behavior based on courtesy and gentleness, goes far beyond the knight-errant. See a beautiful old book called "The Book of the Courtier."

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:21 AM (QE8X6)

313 Is tilting at windmills anything like tipping cows?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:22 AM (wPiJc)

314 One might remember that The Three Musketeers is Historical fiction. A few of John Dickson Carr's books are, as well. And of course most of Scott and Cooper would qualify. (Many, including C S Lewis, believe Scott really invented historical fiction.) I think the decisive question of definition would be that the story have an historical setting, and not just be placed in the past.

I did recall a few other sailing mystery/adventure novels. One of the Mr Moto's is (Last Laugh, I think), and there's one by Andrew Garve (a conservative Brit) called A Hero For Leanda.

Combining the historical and sailing, and you get O'Brian. A landlubber friend of mine says he really likes the way Stephen functions as a bridge for readers like him - a reason to have the officers and men to be explaining constantly how sailing ships work. Of course, there's also the humor that engenders, in Stephen's idiot savant status with the crew. He can bring you back from the dead if the tide hasn't turned, but mustn't be left on deck unattended.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:23 AM (+TcCF)

315 I'm sorry you see it that way. I mean no
disrespect, but it's not because it's not there. It's because you've
chosen not to see it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:35 AM (Pz4pT)

I took a Cervantes class because it was required as part of my degree, and that is how Cervantes' Don Quixote was taught in a liberal arts section of a very liberal college. And that is fairly common modern insight into Cervantes' master work.

However, I recently got to review some outlines of lectures for a Cervantes course from the Universidad de Francisco Marroquin in Guatemala (they had a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) ) and that one stresses Cervantes' support of liberty and his understanding of the Spanish Scholastics of the Salamanca school, and his use of that understanding to run his plotting and his characters.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (2K6fY)


That's interesting. I have none of that perspective, so I'd have to say my reading of the book was not polluted with the lefty perspective.

However, I have watched a couple movie versions, and one was in Russian. I thought their version included waaaay too much class struggle nonsense, with the Duke and his wife as being way more cruel than Cervantes portrayed them.

My view of that entire section of the book is that these were rich people who had way too much time on their hands, had way too little understanding of how their indulgences affected others, and of course had way too much money, and way too many servants... but I saw that as quite as unrealistic as Quixote's knight errant role. it was so over the top, these people were able to put on such an elaborate hoax on those poor fellas, it was impossible for me to take it seriously. It was fun. The author was indulging in his own fantasy, in a most entertaining way.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:24 AM (Pz4pT)

316 I'm not sure how to say with without it sounding weird, but you seem to embody almost everything I wish I could've been. I have both admiration and envy.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:08 AM (NWiLs)


You know what it is? I don't have kids, and I get bored fast, so I just move from one thing to the next. As soon as I learn how to do something I move on to the next thing. The other thing is I learned a few different things really good, and other things spider webbed of from there. I learned cabinet making out of high school along with the home improvement thing. 90% of the old world classical guitar builders had cabinet making in their background, so like them it was easy for me to take on building guitars because the a lot of the tools were already there and the wood knowledge. Once you learn wood tools you open up the world. You can build a palace on the cheap.

The Harley thing. I started learning that when I was 16, when half my friends started building them in high school, the other half did cars. Soooo, between working with master carpenters, plumbers, and electricians, and Harley and car guys, I learned enough to be dangerous.

The main thing, never having the money to actually pay somebody is pretty motivating. I had to learn how to do it, or do without.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 11:24 AM (aMlLZ)

317 I wonder how much of this is exaggerated
autobiography. How much did Cervantes roam the world (in his youth, not
as a senior, as Quixote is), having adventures, observing the insanity
and the futility of it all.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 10:33 AM (Pz4pT)


Cervantes was at Lepanto, where the massed forces of Christian navies (and their new Caravel ship) crushed the galleys of the Ottomans. Cervantes was injured and lost the use of one hand, so he got the nickname "Manco (crippled in the hand) of Lepanto". He was also captured at one point.
He got a position as a tax collector later in Spain, and that required him to travel all over Spain in all weather to shake down delinquent accounts, and when his accounts came up short he was jailed for that.

He had a great desire for liberty, and as a modern soldier seeing the modern world, did have a love for chivalry, but Quixote voices why such a system is impossible in a modern world.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 11:25 AM (2K6fY)

318 O/T headed to The Bahamas in Feb for our corporate trip. I've never been before. Anyone have firsthand knowledge, things to enjoy/avoid?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 21, 2018 11:25 AM (ty7RM)

319 Cervantes was captured by pirates and saw off the Spanish Armada...


*****

In the year sixteen seventy two
The Brits had that Spanish to-do
Said Grenville at Granada
Re: the Spanish Armada
"I don't know! What's armada wit' choo?"

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:26 AM (wPiJc)

320 In high school I had a english course in historical fiction, to me its taking historical events and fleshing out what we do not know or has never been written. War and Peace, And Patrick O'Brien fit this. In Desolation Island the Dutch 74 Waakzaamheid was real and was lost in a storm with all hands, was it chasing a British frigate?who knows?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 11:26 AM (aC6Sd)

321
@280 Those Mary Renault books are on Amazon (of course) and the used hardbound prices are reasonable for most. I don't know just how 'used - good' translates, but I took a chance on three of them.

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 11:27 AM (GroCc)

322 Muldoon you crack me up.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 11:27 AM (aC6Sd)

323 Is tilting at windmills anything like tipping cows?
Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:22 AM (wPiJc)


Only if the cows have horns, and you catch the wrong end of one of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

324 On the Episcopalian front, long ago when I still was one, there was an ad in the Richmond paper that one parish was having a revival(!) May have been the last straw. Lesbian bishops were one thing, but if there's anything Episcopalians ever stood for, it was NOT holding revivals.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:28 AM (+TcCF)

325 Is tilting at windmills anything like tipping cows?


Oh, this has nothing to do with books but I'm going to tell a cow tipping story.

I went to Penn State, which is a cow college. It has a famous dairy where they make ice cream from cow stuff. It was a land grant university from back in the 1850s when they decided that cows should have a college.

So one night we decided to go out cow tipping because we were drunk and it seemed like the thing to do. We couldn't find a cow. They put then inside at night or something. We were literally at a literal cow college and we couldn't find a cow.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

326 Added to my list, William Forstchen wrote the great
Lost Regiment series, about a Civil War regiment gets transported to
another World where Humans are Slaves

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM (dKiJG)
I read a one of the Lost Regiment novels maybe 20+ years ago! I had forgotten the author. It was a great read. I was a contract project manager at the time and a client had a little honor-system library in the break room. I tried to find the other books by checking local stores and book sales with no luck. Thanks for the reminder. Now that we have the internet I'll take another run at finding them.

Posted by: George V at January 21, 2018 11:29 AM (LUHWu)

327 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 11:24 AM (aMlLZ)

Whatever the reasons, you've done a lot of cool shit and know how to do a lot of cool shit.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:30 AM (NWiLs)

328 I just picked up Mitchner's book "Caravans" for something to read. What I found instead was a lyric depiction of Afghanistan prior to the Taliban. It was fascinating.

Posted by: Akua Makana at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (YkUJb)

329 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

I don't remember the name of the dairy in Boalsburg. We got our milk there and went for ice cream a couple times. Had good prices and great milk 20 years ago at least.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (rp9xB)

330 Skandia --- enjoy. Let me know what you think. These are/were formative books for me.

(I hope you didn't get 'The Charioteer' - that is a contemporary paen to homosexuality. NOT historical fiction.)

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (usxh5)

331 Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:26 AM (wPiJc)

You truly have a gift.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (NWiLs)

332 He had a great desire for liberty, and as a modern soldier seeing the modern world, did have a love for chivalry, but Quixote voices why such a system is impossible in a modern world.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 11:25 AM (2K6fY)


Yes, the reason why it is such a disservice to the character, to consider him a buffoon or a nutjob, is that he recites long soliloquies, during which the truth and beauty of his point of view are so fully fleshed out, that it's impossible to not appreciate the man. Even if his next act is going to be stabbing some poor innkeeper's wine bags.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (Pz4pT)

333 So one night we decided to go out cow tipping because we were drunk and it seemed like the thing to do. We couldn't find a cow. They put then inside at night or something. We were literally at a literal cow college and we couldn't find a cow.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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B, should have made the drive to Ohio State. We had cows all over. Mostly sunbathing on the Oval.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 11:32 AM (tr2D7)

334 Hooked on The Expanse. I'm reading the books and following up with the videos; it's making a lot more sense now.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 11:32 AM (4E1nt)

335 I usually tip cows 15% for good service.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

336 Exquisite luxury.

Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:33 AM (+lOpA)

337 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (Pz4pT)

Thing is, I don't care about lyrical rhetoric when his *actions* damage the lives of the people he is supposedly helping.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:34 AM (rp9xB)

338 True Grit. Read it out loud.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 21, 2018 11:35 AM (U6f54)

339 I usually tip cows 15% for good service.


Pfft. If you've ever worked for tips you spend the rest of your life tipping 20% for just being there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)

340 I don't remember the name of the dairy in Boalsburg. We got our milk there and went for ice cream a couple times.


*******

As a kid one time, on our way to Grandma's house we stopped by the Poudre Valley Creamery for ice cream. 30 miles on down the road my parents realized we were one kid short, and had to turn around. My brother never did reveal how much ice cream he got to eat while waiting for us to come pick him up, but he didn't seem the least bit upset when we finally got there.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (wPiJc)

341 A secretary that looks like Helen Mirren works at that desk.

Opening letters with an exquisitely luxurious letter opener.

Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (+lOpA)

342 338 True Grit. Read it out loud.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 21, 2018 11:35 AM (U6f54)

Uh, OK. "TRUE GRIT." Now what?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (NWiLs)

343
Is tilting at windmills anything like tipping cows?
Posted by: Muldoon


I never tip a cow unless the service was good.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

344 Uh, OK. "TRUE GRIT." Now what?
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (NWiLs)

---------

Read it three times, clap, and you'll summon Papa Legba.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (KEGIV)

345 You tip them when they give cream.

Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (+lOpA)

346 Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM

Nope, got the ones you suggested, except for the more expensive titles. The very good conditions, and collectibles were 'way outa my price range.

Going to the library is ... uh, problematic for me. First, I would have to leave the house twice, and I would have to order the book (most likely) from inter library loan. Then I would have to go get it, and then take it back. I'd rather just have a 'cheap' copy on the shelf, which is why I like Kindle.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (GroCc)

347 I know I read Orlando F in school, but don't remember a blamed thing. Must not have hit me at all. The first nonpic book I really remember is 'Boxcar Children'. My parents claim I was reading nonpic books well before kindergarden, but that is the one I remember. Never slogged through DonQ, don't know how I avoided it, but managed it neatly.

Even enjoying the fog in this January thaw in North Illinois. Cleared the ice dam and leaves from the gutters yesterday without accident and not too sore today. All my very tall children and the oldster has to get up on the ladder. Sad!


Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (MIKMs)

348 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:31 AM (Pz4pT)

Thing is, I don't care about lyrical rhetoric when his *actions* damage the lives of the people he is supposedly helping.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:34 AM (rp9xB)


But he's not supposed to be "helping" anybody. He's supposed to be an old man, and he's supposed to do nothing but live out his days, in quiet peace, not really having any meaningful interaction with anybody. Instead, he decides he's a famous knight, and he's going to go save a world that really, doesn't need saving.

I'm not sure why you would think he's doing all that much damage.

Most of the "damage" is financial, and most of that is repaid. One way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (Pz4pT)

349 I only tip cows if the service was good.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (KEGIV)

350 >>I never tip a cow unless the service was good.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

Someone named "Cabot" should certainly be tipping his cows. Maybe some marmalade in the corn hash.

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:39 AM (QE8X6)

351 Cows are like gyroscopes, they don't tip, but they may begin to wobble in a regressive spiral as they wind down

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 11:39 AM (2K6fY)

352 my parents realized we were one kid short, and had to turn around.


I am an only so all of this makes only theoretical sense to me, but I married into a horde of Irish Catholics and apparently kids fell out of moving cars sometimes until people remembered to go back and look for them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

353 Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world who couldn't find Limerick on a map if Emma Lazarus' life depended on it.

I don't know what that means.

Posted by: Fakie Award-Winner Jim Acosta at January 21, 2018 11:39 AM (Ndje9)

354 Pfft. If you've ever worked for tips you spend the rest of your life tipping 20% for just being there.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
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The seedy underworld of exotic dance leaves scars that never really heal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 11:40 AM (qJtVm)

355 156 Finished 'Poland' last week.

Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 09:56 AM (eup66)

So did we!
Posted by: The Wermacht, October 1939 at January 21, 2018 10:01 AM (wYseH)


Where were you in May of 1945?

And today.....Poland or Germany? Which is more pragmatic?

Posted by: Lone ranger at January 21, 2018 11:40 AM (eup66)

356 Cow tipping, oats or money?

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 11:41 AM (aC6Sd)

357 ...kids fell out of moving cars sometimes until people remembered to go back and look for them.


*****

I'm the youngest of seven boys. We could easily be down 2 or 3 before anyone noticed.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:41 AM (wPiJc)

358 A secretary that looks like Helen Mirren works at that desk.

Opening letters with an exquisitely luxurious letter opener.
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:36 AM (+lOpA)


A letter opener she's used to stab many a deserving fellow in the neck. Thoroughly cleaned, and then returned to its proper service.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)

359 Whatever the reasons, you've done a lot of cool shit and know how to do a lot of cool shit.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:30 AM (NWiLs)


Its never too late dude. I'm betting you are younger than me. If you are single, you have the ability/freedom to grab the world and swallow it whole. The rest of the shit comes later. Life constantly involves reinventing yourself. If one part of your life goes to shit, it don't mean you are done. Get the fuck out there and do what you want, before you truly do get old.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 11:42 AM (aMlLZ)

360 First sorta sci-fi book: Freddy (the pig) and the Men from Mars. I liked it so much I liberated it from the elementary school library. I wonder what the overdue charges are on it by now?
First real sci-fi book was Johnny and the Magic Ball From Mars. Anyone remember that one? It had a Martian giving Johnny a marble that did lots of things. The spooks in Washington try to kidnap him. I think I'll look it up on amazon.
Then, the Mr. Bass and the Mushroom Planet books.
Then Heinlein.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 11:43 AM (4E1nt)

361 Cows are like gyroscopes, they don't tip, but they may begin to wobble in a regressive spiral as they wind down

****


Well, you've put a whole new spin on that theory, to coin a phrase.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:43 AM (wPiJc)

362 It has a famous dairy where they make ice cream from cow stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

I would hope that "stuff" is milk.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 11:43 AM (0+nbW)

363 What's interesting about historical fiction is how one can usually tell when it was written. The preoccupations and habits of the author's era creep in. When I read the Hornblower books I can't really ignore how Hornblower is a 1950s Royal Navy man in a cocked hat. He bathes every day!

It's equally instructive to compare, say, Chandler or Hammett stories written in the 1920s and 1930s to modern harboiled pastiches. One obvious difference is race: it's invisible in the period fiction and an obsession to modern authors.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 11:43 AM (owoHM)

364 Meanwhile, CNN is still CNNing:

CNN: Shutdown Risks Undetected Asteroid Strike...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

365 Well, you've put a whole new spin on that theory, to coin a phrase.

Re-begun, the coin of phrase wars have.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:44 AM (fuK7c)

366 Skandia -

Having copies on your shelf is good. Easier to reread that way.

BTW - I have similar library access problems. Use the internet library access for most of my reading - only buy when titles I want aren't on -line.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 21, 2018 11:45 AM (usxh5)

367 Has anyone mentioned Gillian Bradshaw yet? She does great historical fiction, focusing on classical antiquity- the Roman empire, the Hellenistic world, Byzantium. One of my favorites is called Island of Ghosts, and it deals with the Sarmatian cavalry auxiliaries who were stationed in Britannia. Good stuff, and about a period of history that I don't know much about.

Posted by: right wing yankee at January 21, 2018 11:45 AM (obZ4W)

368 I am an only so all of this makes only theoretical sense to me, but I married into a horde of Irish Catholics and apparently kids fell out of moving cars sometimes until people remembered to go back and look for them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)


We were a large Catholic family. Stuffed like sardines in a tin Country Squire station wagon... if sardines are stuffed with the windows open, that is, in the back where all the dust kicks up from the dirt roads, and at the end of the ride the four or so unluckiest (read youngest) of the horde look like they were just rescued from the aftermath of Mt. Pinatubo's eruption.

I really don't remember any of us ever having been left behind. And we took many trips.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

369 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 21, 2018 11:42 AM (aMlLZ)

It's good advice.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 21, 2018 11:46 AM (NWiLs)

370 Meanwhile, CNN is still CNNing:

CNN: Shutdown Risks Undetected Asteroid Strike...

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Besides having some time to worry, is there any difference between being killed by an asteroid by surprise versus being killed by one you knew was coming?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:47 AM (KEGIV)

371 I have never in my life used the word "pastiche."

I live vicariously through those that do.

Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:47 AM (+lOpA)

372 I'm the youngest of seven boys. We could easily be down 2 or 3 before anyone noticed.
Posted by: Muldoon
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Yep - oldest of eight here. Left youngest sister at Howard Johnsons on the PA turnpike once.

Oops!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2018 11:48 AM (tr2D7)

373 I tried a Tim Powers book once, forgot which, but I put it down.

What's a good one to give him another try?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 11:48 AM (hMwEB)

374 Everyday the sun comes up we risk being hit by a surprise asteroid.

Posted by: John Marston at January 21, 2018 11:49 AM (SkuXa)

375 I have never in my life used the word "pastiche."

I live vicariously through those that do.
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:47 AM (+lOpA)


I pride myself on not knowing what some words mean. That would be one of them.

I will also intentionally mispronounce words like ennui (En-YOU-ee!), because it pisses off the french and pretentious English speakers.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)

376 All these sci-fi fans and nobody mentioned Tom Swift? We only had one (lotsa Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys, and Bobbsey Twins) and I whined and the librarians got all that were published under that series logo. Bless those incredibly elderly ladies for really trying to make sure they had all kinds of fiction available. I think I started with Andre Norton rather than Heinlein.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 21, 2018 11:50 AM (MIKMs)

377 >>363 What's interesting about historical fiction is how one can usually tell when it was written.

Dr. Johnson complained that all Shakespeare's classical characters talked like Elizabethan Englishmen. But I think that's kind of inevitable, to some degree. Imagine trying to put dialog into the mouth of, say, Julius Caesar. How in the world would you do it, if not from your own frame of reference?

Posted by: Caliban at January 21, 2018 11:50 AM (QE8X6)

378 Besides having some time to worry, is there any difference between being killed by an asteroid by surprise versus being killed by one you knew was coming?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:47 AM (KEGIV)

Well, we like our fear-mongering.

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2018 11:51 AM (0+nbW)

379
Well, I, for one, have to quit reading this thread as I have blown my budget all to hell and gone, to coin a phrase.

But it's been fun.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 11:51 AM (GroCc)

380 I have never in my life used the word "pastiche."

I live vicariously through those that do.


********

Heh - a limerick

Said Poirot through his dapper mustache
And an accent, to give it panache
Alas, mon ami
The secret, you see
is to mispronounce the word as "pistache"

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:51 AM (wPiJc)

381 A pastiche is a classed-up hodge-pudge.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:51 AM (KEGIV)

382 Read The Zero Stone and got hooked on Andre Norton.

Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2018 11:51 AM (+lOpA)

383 374 Everyday the sun comes up we risk being hit by a surprise asteroid.
Posted by: John Marston at January 21, 2018 11:49 AM (SkuXa)
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We expecting a surprise asteroid?

Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2018 11:52 AM (Sfs6o)

384 Or hodge-podge.

Fricken auto-correct.

Whatevz.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:52 AM (KEGIV)

385 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)

Pilates: pie-lates.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 11:53 AM (wYseH)

386 Besides having some time to worry, is there any difference between being killed by an asteroid by surprise versus being killed by one you knew was coming?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:47 AM (KEGIV)


Oh, there are so many things I will regret being responsible about, if I am surprised by an asteroid.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:53 AM (Pz4pT)

387 Eat too many pistaches and you get hodge-pudgy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:53 AM (KEGIV)

388 A hodge podge is classed up jimjaws and gewcracks.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:54 AM (fuK7c)

389 Going to the library is ... uh, problematic for me. First, I would have to leave the house twice, and I would have to order the book (most likely) from inter library loan. Then I would have to go get it, and then take it back.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 21, 2018 11:38 AM (GroCc)


My local library system lets me put holds on materials online. They'll deliver them to my local branch when they're available and then call or email to let me know I can pick them up. I don't know if yours offers the service, but it's probably not uncommon, and it does save you at least the first trip.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 21, 2018 11:55 AM (y87Qq)

390 Oh, there are so many things I will regret being responsible about, if I am surprised by an asteroid.

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Don't worry. You won't regret them for long.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:55 AM (KEGIV)

391 I really like both Pillars of the Earth and World Without End. I especially liked Hayley Atwell in the TV production, although she was actually quite chubby in POTE.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2018 11:55 AM (LAe3v)

392 My Rep. Meehan has been targeted by the commies. He settled a harassment case filed by a staffer. He denies wrongdoing, says he followed directions from House legal counsel to settle. He has called on the complainant to break confidentiality so the public can review testimony. She refused.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 11:55 AM (UsFoH)

393 ...if I am surprised by an asteroid.


******


Don't worry. We're on it.

Posted by: Preparation H at January 21, 2018 11:55 AM (wPiJc)

394 Baby, I'll kick your asteroid.

Posted by: Bruce Willis at January 21, 2018 11:57 AM (QE8X6)

395 Threads over. Everyone out of the pool.

NOOD

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 11:57 AM (KEGIV)

396 I tried a Tim Powers book once, forgot which, but I put it down.

What's a good one to give him another try?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 11:48 AM (hMwEB)


Declare is by far his best, in my opinion.

Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM (2cg7P)

397 Guess all the loons who said it was a given that the dims would take the house are recalculating about now. Third poll in afew days showing dims lead shrinks to 5-6. They have to lead by 5-6 just to break even. Another RED wave in the Senate for sure but could the GOP do the unheard of, pickup seats in the first midterm of a Republican Presidency ??

Posted by: coffee, stove, dogs, coffee at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM (4u7kU)

398 All Hail Eris, saw your comments on the movie thread.

I had seen it once when TCM was doing a few shows on Disney.

Did you find it as neat as I did? And do I want to know how much Amazon charged to watch it?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM (2+EWn)

399 Currently reading "Only Dead on the Inside: A Parent's Guide to the Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse" by James Breakwell, better known as @XplodingUnicorn on Twitter. So far, it's hilarious and just what I needed when snowed in with the kids.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (THS4q)

400 Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)

Pilates: pie-lates.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 21, 2018 11:53 AM (wYseH)


I really don't know what pilates is. I picture that game where the Euros play indoor tennis with bowling pins, or whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (Pz4pT)

401 Threads over. Everyone out of the pool.


What? You hate apostrophes?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (fuK7c)

402 /sock

Posted by: Muldoon at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (wPiJc)

403 An asteroid strike means I can finally put my prepping plan to work. It is a win win.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (3QAtO)

404 George W. Bush was merely going to blow up the planet -- Trump is actually forcing our intergalactic betters to destroy us!

Okay, name some SF stories where aliens were lobbing asteroids at Earth.

- Starship Troopers
- the Firestar saga

...any others?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 11:59 AM (qJtVm)

405 Footfall

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:00 PM (2+EWn)

406 I believe Meehan. He is a former county attorney and US attorney with not a whisper of scandal through his career. He won our district handily,even though Satan's buttgirl trounced Trump. I hope he fights.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2018 12:01 PM (UsFoH)

407 I have so many books, but they are all stored in those 18 gallon totes in an out building. Unfortunately, there is so much crap in front of them, I can't get to 'em.

So I have a handful of books on my night stand that I have re-read turnabout a half a dozen times.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 12:01 PM (R5lpX)

408 304 Not sure if the setting was sufficiently past tese at the time it was written to qualify as historical fiction but the first Arkady Renko novel, Gorky Park by Martin Cruz Smith, was great. Much like Aztec, mentioned above, it put you into a different world.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 21, 2018 11:16 AM (+y/Ru)

Anonosaurus, I'd agree. Just read the next one, Red Square, last week. Setting is 1991 as Soviet Union is crumbling. Great read.

Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2018 12:01 PM (4E1nt)

409 388 A hodge podge is classed up jimjaws and gewcracks.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 11:54 AM (fuK7c)


Reverend!

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 21, 2018 12:02 PM (NL6wI)

410 I was thinking about that false alarm in Hawaii and wondering if they will see a bulge in the birth rate 9 months hence due to "missile sex".

Posted by: navybrat at January 21, 2018 12:03 PM (7NKxb)

411 Did you find it as neat as I did? And do I want to know how much Amazon charged to watch it?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM (2+EWn)
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Anna, it's a tad hokey but the inside scoop on how movies were made is really interesting. I had read about the complex camera they used with several tiers for producing the effect of depth and movement in backgrounds, but to see it in action is fascinating.

I liked the coloring lab and the chemistry girls making paints for the cells. I read that they tried to paint rosy cheeks on Snow White but it looked clownish and opaque on the celluloid, so one of the girls used her blush and it was perfect. But can you do that in exactly the same way all the time?, she was asked. What do you think I've been doing my whole adult life?, she answered.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 12:07 PM (qJtVm)

412
Okay, name some SF stories where aliens were lobbing asteroids at Earth.

- Starship Troopers
- the Firestar saga

...any others?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Rowdy boys on the Moon were lobbing rocks at the Earth in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 12:25 PM (IqV8l)

413 Well yeah the story is a bit thin and silly, but there needed to be some action and quest to keep the audience interested. Or it would have been a dust dry documentary as about as interesting as watching paint dry. IIRC when Robert is shown all the statues, there is one character model in there for a movie that had not been released when the short was made.

Traditional cel painting really does not lend itself to soft edges even if you hide the ink lines. Only other way would be to airbrush, not sure when the airbrush was invented though paint sprayers did exist, each cel or wait for the computers to arrive.

I probably should watch it again. So what was it called and how much does Amazon want to charge?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:27 PM (2+EWn)

414 My favorite series by far is the Owen Parry hexalogy (is that the right word? series of 6 books) set during the Civil War, beginning with Faded Coat of Blue. They are murder mysteries, but oh so much more. They capture the social and psychological atmosphere of America during the Civil War as few other books have.

All six books are written in first person by a fictional narrator named Abel Jones, a Welsh immigrant who had earlier served in the British forces during the Sepoy Rebellion in India. The narrator's voice is what MAKES these books. Abel Jones is one of the most appealing characters you'll ever meet.

Each of the six books takes Abel to a different locale as an investigator for the Union government. We see wartime Washington, D.C., upstate New York, northern Mississippi, England/Scotland (where Charles Francis Addams was serving as our ambassador), coal-country Pennsylvania, and New Orleans.

I admit that I haven't yet read the sixth one, because it's the final one, and I just can't bear to FINISH this series. I wish there were ten more volumes to read, not just one! So I am saving that sixth one, like a precious treasure box I am waiting to open.

By the way, this is one of those series where you really do have to read the first one first.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 21, 2018 12:33 PM (DWW7j)

415 Oops, forgot to include a link. Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y9v3exug

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 21, 2018 12:33 PM (DWW7j)

416 My favorite to purposely mispronounce was


calling Sade, "Say-dee".

When she was popular, that would drive some friends and acquaintances totally insane.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2018 12:35 PM (9q7Dl)

417 If you call your 6-book series a Sexology I bet you get more Amazon sales.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 12:35 PM (owoHM)

418 I live in Massachusetts, where idiosyncratic local pronunciations for town names are nearly universal. My son and I enjoy coming up with new ways to pronounce towns so we can correct people.

"It's wor-SES-ter, not wooster!"
"I believe that's pronounced 'Walt-ham,' not wall-tham."
"We say it 'Camberish' around here."

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 12:40 PM (owoHM)

419 I probably should watch it again. So what was it called and how much does Amazon want to charge?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:27 PM (2+EWn)
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"The Reluctant Dragon" for $3.99.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 12:43 PM (qJtVm)

420 JTB: I picked up a bunch of Dorothy Dunnett books a while back but never got
around to reading them. Is there one of her series that's a good place
to start? I likely to have a LOT of time to read this summer and I'm
putting together a list of books to have on hand.

She wrote series around 3 different main characters. I love her Lymond Chronicles, and they start with Game of Kings. They should really be read in order or you'll get spoilers you will wish you didn't have. The Niccolo books are good, but not as good as the LC. Finally, she wrote a bunch of mysteries featuring a painter. They were fine, but I only read them because I'd read her grocery lists if you gave them to me.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at January 21, 2018 12:47 PM (IbzI6)

421 so many great recs on this thread

cool breeze thanks for the tip on Declare, will check it out

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 12:47 PM (hMwEB)

422 I have never in my life used the word "pastiche."

==

a pastiche is a mash-mish

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 12:49 PM (hMwEB)

423 96 I tried a Tim Powers book once, forgot which, but I put it down.

What's a good one to give him another try?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 11:48 AM (hMwEB)

Declare is by far his best, in my opinion.
Posted by: cool breeze at January 21, 2018 11:58 AM

One of my favorite books! However, I'd go with Three Days to Never or the Anubis Gates if you don't like spy novels.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 21, 2018 12:49 PM (G8B7r)

424 I read an interesting Microsoft pdf this week. Some of you, those interested in artificial intelligence and its role in society, might find it worth a few minutes.
140-ish pages long.

https://msblob.blob.core.windows.net/ncmedia/2018/01/The-Future-Computed.pdf

Posted by: goon at January 21, 2018 12:56 PM (EaQ6/)

425 Votermom: a good Tim Powers book to start with is The Anubis Gates. Time travel is involved.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 21, 2018 12:58 PM (ynUnH)

426 Thanks All Hail Eris, after work something to watch, enjoy, and learn again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:00 PM (2+EWn)

427 My first home library looked nothing like that, but then again I was 3 and had to make do.

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 01:01 PM (zOpu5)

428 For fiction with a historical background, I recommend "The Kents," a comics maxiseries (also in trade paperback) written by John Ostrander. It tracks the story of the Kent family, ancestors of Clark Kent's adoptive father, during the days of Abolition. The family moves to Bleeding Kansas, and we learn about the era. The Kents consist of a father and two sons, one of them shadier than the other.

Ostrander's interpretation of the circumstances behind the decisions that shaped Kansas/Missouri history made me wish that he had written textbooks in addition to comics and plays. The man puts blood into the figures of the era.

And to top this off, the art is by Timothy Truman.

Highly recommended.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 21, 2018 01:03 PM (PWPy3)

429 This week I started and finished The Bomb Maker, by Thomas Perry. When he has a new offering the TBR stack takes a backseat. It was excellent as usual. I'm a pathetically slow reader, so for me to finish one thick book in a week is saying something. Highly recommended.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at January 21, 2018 01:09 PM (ihzOe)

430 Good morning Horde! (It's still the AM in the West.) I'm looking for a book with a story or stories of whites captured by Indians and living among them, suitable for reading aloud with a 10yo. Do any of you have a favorite?

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 21, 2018 01:13 PM (4IjGx)

431 #430 - Try "Indian Captive-The Story of Mary Jemison" by Lois Lenski. It's written for kids about that age.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 21, 2018 01:22 PM (xnmPy)

432 430 a week ago or so on Pennsylvania channel a talk from a professor exacting on that around the French and Indian War.
Check back here in a few and see if I can figure out who and his book he wrote.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:22 PM (aC6Sd)

433 I read a one of the Lost Regiment novels maybe 20+ years ago! I had forgotten the author. It was a great read. I was a contract project manager at the time and a client had a little honor-system library in the break room. I tried to find the other books by checking local stores and book sales with no luck. Thanks for the reminder. Now that we have the internet I'll take another run at finding them.
Posted by: George V at January 21, 2018 11:29 AM (LUHWu)

If you liked the Lost Regiment, DESTROYERMEN is in the same vein but with a WWII destroyer being transported to an alternate universe where Humans are not they only Intelligent species.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 01:32 PM (dKiJG)

434 Not having any luck, I'm sure it was only a week or 2 ago and on the Pennsylvania Channel book tv but they are not showing new books since before Christmas so must have been a repeat. This is the last showjng the F&I war but don't think this was the History Professor
"French and Indian War: War in the Peaceable Kingdom: The Kittanning Raid of 1756" with Brady Crytzer

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:43 PM (aC6Sd)

435 Interesting of this Lost Regiment series that I never heard of it but kinda suggested it in a war game question. Someone asked about the Final Countdown movie of the USS Nimitz going back through time to just before Pearl Harbor. I suggested maybe a modern combat squad going back to WWII or I in the same sort of way.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:47 PM (aC6Sd)

436 One obvious difference is race: it's invisible in the period fiction and an obsession to modern authors.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 21, 2018 11:43 AM (owoHM)

One thing I got out of Ariosto (and also Chaucer) is the realization that, in their day, the racist attitudes the left thinks inherent in the West, just weren't present. One of Ariosto's objects was ingratiating himself with the Este family. He has them descended from Ruggiero - a moor who converts, and marries Bradimante. Race was not an issue, religion was.

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 01:49 PM (+TcCF)

437 tried a Tim Powers book once, forgot which, but I put it down.



What's a good one to give him another try?
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 21, 2018 11:48 AM (hMwEB)



Tim Powers can be really fun, and I liked his books from the 80's an d 90's.
Lots of action, lots of excitement, lots of slapstick and farce.

Personally, I suggest any books from Dinner at Deviant's Palace through The Stress of Her Regard.

Anything before Deviant's Palace is essentially the plot of Deviant's Palace without the technical skill (well, The Skies Dethroned is a picaresque novel placed in space, but . . .) and is post apocalyptic LA with an alien invader;

The Anubis Gate is Romantic Lit professors getting involved with time travel and ancient Egyptian wizardry, werewolves and the introduction of the very puzzling romatic poet William Ashbless, and is fun;

The Drawing of the Dark is Arthur recalled for the siege of Vienna and has a hard bitten poetic Irish mercenary, a hunchbacked artilleryman, Ambrosius, demons called from Turkish mythology, a mad artists who paints the future, a brewery built over the resting place of Finn MacCool, and Vikings;

On Stranger Tides has Pirates, the fountain of youth and Ponce de Leon who is now a drunkard, Voodoo, black wizardry, and the Royal navy;

and The Stress of Her Regard which has romantic poets including Byron and Shelley, a male midwife accused of crushing his wife to death on her marriage eve, the secret masters of the world, and Lamiae.

After that he gets on the whole Fisher King and ghosts thing and that gets recursive, and I didn't like Declare because everyone was miserable, and it felt like it was either a massive conspiracy theory that tried to explain everything or else I was being punked. But that's me and my personal issues.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 01:53 PM (2K6fY)

438 Interesting of this Lost Regiment series that I never heard of it but kinda suggested it in a war game question. Someone asked about the Final Countdown movie of the USS Nimitz going back through time to just before Pearl Harbor. I suggested maybe a modern combat squad going back to WWII or I in the same sort of way.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2018 01:47 PM (aC6Sd)

There is a book like this but a task force gets sent back and the USS HILLARY CLINTON launches an attack on the Japanese. I saw the name of the Carrier and didn't buy the book, too much SJW crap according to the reviews. The ships of present have mixed races crews where the WW II don't and the author beats the premise to death.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 01:55 PM (dKiJG)

439 "Cervantes was at Lepanto, where the massed forces of Christian navies (and their new Caravel ship) crushed the galleys of the Ottomans."

Uh, no. Caravels were (a) not that new, and (b) didn't win Lepanto. The only non-galleys to have any effect were galleasses, and that wasn't decisive. Lepanto was to the galley what Navarino was to the ship of the line, the last great battle.

(Now, the Portuguese had, early in the century, defeated an Ottoman-Gujarati galley fleet at Diu. But that was with carracks, not caravels, though they had both. And it's not clear of the "galleys" they used were of Mediterranean quality.)

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 01:56 PM (+TcCF)

440 That desk really comes alive when there is a button that locks the door in it.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at January 21, 2018 02:01 PM (Xr58H)

441 308 Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 11:13 AM (+TcCF)

Actually, the usual take by socialists is that Quixote was fighting against "The Man" as opposed to *being* "The Man". Much like they see themselves as the eternal revolutionaries.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 21, 2018 11:18 AM (rp9xB)

They can change whom they think the good guys/bad guys, but they cannot change the basic framework. One of the points Hexter makes in the essay I cited was that, for Hill, he CANNOT "misrepresent" the evidence, because Hill's socialist model forces all evidence to confirm his thesis.

What troubles me is that most right wingers, too, have internalized the Marxist model of history. Not that they agree with the conclusions, but they cannot help but see patterns in history which closely parallel Marx's. Often they see the same "rising bourgeois" pattern, but differ in thinking more highly of it.

The trouble is variously described as "lumping", "pattern history", "historicism", or "the Whig interpretation". (But note that Hexter self-identified as Whig.) The common thread is the belief that there is a model of how history develops, and a resulting Procrusteanism in approach to the facts and their interpretation.

But then, I'm a full-bore "splitter" or Butterfield man. I like to keep my philosophy and my history separate; they are studying different things, in different ways. (I majored in both, btw).

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 02:05 PM (+TcCF)

442 Sgt. Mom and Skip, thanks.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 21, 2018 02:19 PM (4IjGx)

443 Uh, no. Caravels were (a) not that new, and (b)
didn't win Lepanto. The only non-galleys to have any effect were
galleasses, and that wasn't decisive. Lepanto was to the galley what
Navarino was to the ship of the line, the last great battle.


[ . . .]
Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 01:56 PM (+TcCF)


My mistake, I thought the success at Lepanto was due to technological improvements the Western navies had over the Turks, especially the development of ships to carry cannon and their employment as a fleet. I will have to revisit that.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 02:20 PM (2K6fY)

444 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 21, 2018 01:55 PM (dKiJG)
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Wasn't this written by an Australian?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 02:26 PM (qJtVm)

445 So let me show my full geek here.....

"but I would be drawn inexorably to putting my feet up on that desk if I were reading in that chair. And it's probably some fantastically expensive 18th century English desk with butterfly wing stain and unicorn horn inlay"

So I build my own furniture and I notice different furniture designs. I have opinions dammit. IMHO, the inlay "doesn't go" with the legs. The shape is all wrong. I couldn't believe it was really a Federalist style desk which is seems to imitate. Shonuff, I found it on the interwebs: http://www.halehdesigninc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ES11.jpg It is a modern interpretation of a classic look.

Sorry.

Posted by: inflammable at January 21, 2018 03:30 PM (aKxP+)

446 I enjoy historical fiction. Patrick Obrians Aubrey Maturin series is the best historical fiction written in my opinion. Beautiful writing, excellent characters and action. Shogun and Lonsesome Dove are also incredible historical fiction reads with great plots and characters in vivid historical settings. I also enjoy Cornwell and am currently reading the Sharpe series. Hornblower and Flashman are also favorites.

I am considering reading The Hisotry of the English Speaking Peoples by Churchhill. Anyone recommend those books? Should i start somewhere else with Churchill?

Posted by: Thought at January 21, 2018 03:31 PM (YoPLu)

447 My mistake, I thought the success at Lepanto was due to technological improvements the Western navies had over the Turks, especially the development of ships to carry cannon and their employment as a fleet. I will have to revisit that.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2018 02:20 PM (2K6fY)

The west did have a tech edge, having heavier guns on the galleys, and more small arms. Like the English, the Ottos were late to switch from bows, although the Turks had more success in doing so.

For a discussion of the ship types of the century, you can't do better than N A M Rodger's Safeguard (and the sources he cites there).

Posted by: George LeS at January 21, 2018 03:35 PM (+TcCF)

448 I am considering reading The Hisotry of the English Speaking Peoples by Churchhill. Anyone recommend those books? Should i start somewhere else with Churchill?


I keep being surprised when people say books, plural, but I just looked it up and there are four. I thought I had read it (as in the single volume that isn't) years ago.

What I remember from years ago is that I was hoping for a history of the English language and the people who speak it. What I read was a propaganda piece about why England and the Commonwealth should always hang together with America.

Which is a fine point, but not a great book. For books in his own hand I've read the six-part WWII memoirs a couple of times and do recommend them. "The Gathering Storm" is the first among them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 21, 2018 03:41 PM (fuK7c)

449 VDH had a chapter on Lepanto in "Carnage and Culture."

Posted by: geoffb at January 21, 2018 04:12 PM (zOpu5)

450 Nobody's mentioned Celia Haye's stuff, start w/either Deep in the Heart or The Adelsverein Trilogy. All of her books maintain a permanent place in my current and future Kindles.

446: Yes. At one time, HotESP was on my list of the top ten books I've ever read. When my parents distributed the stuff in their house to the kids I was disappointed that I didn't get that set.

Posted by: yara at January 21, 2018 04:17 PM (W+vNk)

451 But, I think as Bandersnatch indicates, make sure you get the whole 4 volume set.

Posted by: yara at January 21, 2018 04:18 PM (W+vNk)

452 For an off the wall historical fiction, try The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey. It's a fictionalized account of whether Richard III was really such a bad guy.

Posted by: yara at January 21, 2018 04:28 PM (W+vNk)

453 Hi, Yara - thanks for the up-vote! I try and limit my own horn-blowing on the book thread to the occasional mention, you know?

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 21, 2018 06:04 PM (xnmPy)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (1/20/18 )

allroadsleading to the ont.jpg

(Wish you were here)

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Pot, pot, pot, pot, pot, pot, pot and Pot.

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Vanity run a muck. And expensive too.

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Tonight's Genius Award Winner never learned the phrase, Practice makes perfect. And that is why he is our Genius Award Winner.


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Some police officers are known for their love of the Cheese Danish. Others are known for their love of the piano. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Paul.

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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. Unsure if any rights are reserved.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:11 PM




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1 Evening

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 09:07 PM (nBr1j)

2 I was first?

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 09:09 PM (nBr1j)

3 Don't get tattoos.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (owoHM)

4 rd.

Posted by: Mike Pitzler at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (fSf/G)

5 I'm top 10?

Posted by: Winston at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (wgCUV)

6 th?

Posted by: Mike Pitzler at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (fSf/G)

7 How'd that happen?

Posted by: Winston at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (wgCUV)

8 Not first, but present.

And still laughing at all the pink pussy hats, round 2.

Is this going to become an annual thing?

Maybe set up some happy hour pricing at the local tavern with a watching party.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (UsCnO)

9 = 3+4

Posted by: Mike Pitzler at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (fSf/G)

10 If I don't get a dog, maybe I'll get a tattoo to keep me company.

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (nBr1j)

11 Le ONT, she is Nude!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (qJtVm)

12 Even little old Robber's Roost had a wymyn's march. Minimum pink hats though. The crowd size will be huge because they'll claim all the people who came to the craft beer festival.

Posted by: Winston at January 20, 2018 09:13 PM (wgCUV)

13 Happy Saturday All. Top 20?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (+ldAm)

14 Was the MFM pussing all over the pussy hats?

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (nBr1j)

15 I've allowed my kids to experiment with weird haircuts and dye jobs, but I've got a firm rule: no tattoos. When you're a legal adult living on your own, I can't stop you, but until then no tattoos.

And for God's sake, don't get a dumb one. No bullshit New Age greeting-card quotes, no pretend-Maori designs, no Chinese or Arabic characters unless you speak the language, no goddamned cartoon characters, no product logos, no political slogans, and no "occult" symbols.

Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (owoHM)

16 Beaches and Pink Floyd!

Posted by: Adriane the Music to Vacation by Critic ... at January 20, 2018 09:17 PM (AoK0a)

17 *High-Fives Northernlurker*

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 09:17 PM (kUotE)

18 You fail to highlight the fact that Paul's productivity ---while non-existent---is nevertheless DIVERSE.

Paul. For the win.

Posted by: Redgrains at January 20, 2018 09:18 PM (/jP+y)

19 Today I read every comment on every post. Not sure whether I should feel proud or worried!

Posted by: Marinemom at January 20, 2018 09:18 PM (ep6ak)

20 How about a 1/128th scale HMS Beagle across the chest?

Posted by: Mike Pitzler at January 20, 2018 09:18 PM (fSf/G)

21 And for God's sake, don't get a dumb one. No bullshit New Age greeting-card quotes, no pretend-Maori designs, no Chinese or Arabic characters unless you speak the language, no goddamned cartoon characters, no product logos, no political slogans, and no "occult" symbols.

Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (owoHM

a bar code on the back of one's neck always screams WINNER


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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 20, 2018 09:19 PM (3/sUh)

22 Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Beautiful weather all over our great country, a perfect day for all Women to March. Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months. Lowest female unemployment in 18 years!

I have stood here before beside these prog assholes
With the world turning circles but I'm in controls
I guess I'm always hoping that you'll end these LOLs
But it's my destiny to be the king of trolls

King of trolls
I'll always be king of trolls
I'll always be kiny of trolls

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:19 PM (+y/Ru)

23 Both the larger weed-scented college town south of me and the heroin-blighted county seat north of me had "Women's Marches" today. Pussy hats in evidence. (Don't they know that NOT ALL WOMEN HAVE VAGINAS?! TRANSPHOBIC BIGOTS!)

As is always the case with these lefty religious observances, the message was muddled and vague. Pussy hats, Black Lives Matter signs, anti-Trump signs, gays with rainbow banners because gays love prancing around in public with rainbow banners, anarchists, Marxists, Muslims . . .

If an event is about everything then it's not really about anything, is it? They just love the ritual of protesting. It's Mass for Liberals.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:19 PM (owoHM)

24 well, the tramp stamp is a pretty useful way to communicate and save everyone a lot of time. Instead of plying her with drinks in the bar all night you can simply suggest you get a bottle of something really good you can share on the trunk of your car, or hers.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:21 PM (MTjB1)

25 I've watched this video a hundred times in the last few days. I think it's Horde-worthy.

https://youtu.be/8n2UKiAp_T4

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 09:21 PM (kUotE)

26 yes it is poor etiquette to denigrate her tramp stamp in the middle of festivities.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:21 PM (MTjB1)

27 So now we have to provide links to the musical interlude? Whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 09:22 PM (/qEW2)

28 Despite the silliness there was also an uncomfortable sense of intimidation at these rallies. Nobody dares to counter-demonstrate. That'll get you fifty kinds of hell: doxxing, threats, personal attacks, lies, harassment by local authorities, loss of job, etc.

They think they're the Resistance but they're actually the Brownshirts.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:22 PM (owoHM)

29 matching mother and daughter tramp stamps are always a good sign.

not sure what matching father and daughter tramp stamps indicate but not likely to be a good sign.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:22 PM (MTjB1)

30 I wish I was out on that pier

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:24 PM (aC6Sd)

31 I had to watch my favorite video a couple of times today to get the nasty taste out of my mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEddipbpkw&t=0s

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (owoHM)

32 Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty:

https://tinyurl.com/y9d33tvf

That's a Trojan Horse ploy.

Posted by: Gref at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (AMIL/)

33
it's wheelBARROW

not wheelBARREL

and NOT wheelBARROL

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (tAiTN)

34 Is the ONT getting earlier, or should I have set my clock forward half an hour?

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (sdi6R)

35 Willowed from last thread.

Harvey Birdman custody of Jonny Quest

https://youtu.be/xxI15_6KyzU

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (R5lpX)

36 (Wish you were here)
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Sure, sure, 'Tropical Paradise'...until the Japs begin the shelling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 09:26 PM (9tO1t)

37 Willowed, concerning Trump's Women's March tweet earlier today.

Trump is a master at carefully calibrating to elicit the most outrage at his opposition. This was perfect - if he would have done his usual blustery Sad! type of tweet, they would have rolled their eyes and ignored it with a "Yeah, he's an asshole".

With *this* however, all they can do is seethe, knowing he's doing it just to troll them. And they can't help themselves - it's been nothing but twitter histrionics and mumbling to themselves "What an asshole."
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 09:23 PM (2kiKp)

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 09:27 PM (2kiKp)

38 I usually only get through all the comments on the book thread, have in past read all of ONTs some nights

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:27 PM (aC6Sd)

39
Bitchin' day, Paul!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 20, 2018 09:27 PM (VzUE4)

40 Happy ONT! Interesting content, as always. Thank you, MisHum

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM (7DwnJ)

41 Democrats Against Citizens of America

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM (e8kgV)

42 you have to give more warning on the early bird ont's so the folks have a chance to hike their plaid pants up to their chest and get the double pronged white belt fastened. have to drive all the way across the internets with the turn signal on.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM (MTjB1)

43 Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty:

https://tinyurl.com/y9d33tvf

That's a Trojan Horse ploy.

-
Never trust a prog bearing compromise.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM (+y/Ru)

44 Thanks for the ONT, MisHum!
It's still pot...

Posted by: texcat at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM (wf3RQ)

45 Sorry, that was a link.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 09:29 PM (/qEW2)

46 46th

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at January 20, 2018 09:29 PM (iPbC0)

47 Doesn't look like an overwhelming ONT. Looks like quality whatever the quantity. At a quick overlook while racing down to here in order to leave a vapid comment of hello before reading the content.

Hello.

Posted by: mindful webworker and the goblet of vino at January 20, 2018 09:29 PM (NU2/k)

48 Bon sewer, mes amis.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:30 PM (NWiLs)

49 Re Genius Award Winner:

I actually knew a guy who robbed a bank, then dropped his wallet while fleeing. The police were waiting for him when he returned home.

He wasn't a friend or anything, but he was a regular at a bar I used to frequent.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

50 Is the ONT getting earlier, or should I have set my clock forward half an hour?
Posted by: rickl
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It's the shutdown. All clocks are malfunctioning. The guy who winds the Big Ben at the NIST is deemed 'non-essential'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 09:30 PM (nBBdT)

51 Muh pot. MUH POT.


Pot.

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:30 PM (Aj/1C)

52 I didn't see much info on the March but I did see a lot on the budget. hahahahahaha.

Posted by: vivi at January 20, 2018 09:30 PM (11H2y)

53 really the only thing to counter a pussy hat protest is this.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RClYZwborzY

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (MTjB1)

54 Reading the content before posting an inane comment is for losers. No ice cream for you!

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (R5lpX)

55 When enough D Senators realize they're vulnerable to a 2018 attack that they don't care about their own states people (especially legal minorities), and are putting illegals first, because they're in thrall to Schmuck Schumer, they'll sue for peace. I'd say a week.

Schumer now knows that he fucked up, and may be collateral damage, so he'll fight to drag it out. He may lose his leadership position over this.

Even Kasie Hunt at MSNBC has figured out that Schumer is lying about his back and forth with Trump about the wall in their meeting. Schumer offered Trump $1.6B when he knew Trump wanted at least $18B, which was an insult that blew up negotiations. Schumer is now deflecting and lying about this.

Schumer can't let Trump get a wall, else his Brooklyn home will get surrounded by insane Lefties until the end of time.

So Schumer will be either out or weakened.

Which fits with Trump's war gaming.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (pV/54)

56 I've been gone for a long time. Are there still lace wigs available?

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (iPbC0)

57

Democrats will definitely offer a WIMPY DEAL.

amnesty today for, gladly, a wall on Tuesday

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (tAiTN)

58 Herb!


Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:32 PM (Aj/1C)

59 Kidlet and I were coming home from shopping today. Saw the last remnents of the march here in our local burg. Even saw men wearing pussy hats. We laughed that they are still so butt hurt that the Hillbot didn't win. Stupid too.

Kidlet wanted to yell something to them. I said don't lower yourself to their level. She agreed.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 09:32 PM (EGFUD)

60 Ganjah!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

61 maybe Trump will take a page from the dem playbook and make a deal then go back on his word and screw them. he won't deport the illegal aliens, simply imprison them on cannibal island.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:33 PM (MTjB1)

62 Keep ur laws off muh bong.

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:33 PM (Aj/1C)

63
Is the ONT getting earlier, or should I have set my clock forward half an hour?
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Insty's stealing our move!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 09:33 PM (ewxPW)

64 I'm still not sure if this is a dream or reality, the Democrats shut down the government because they want illegals in. Its either brilliant move that will get them millions more voters or loss of seats in Congress

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:34 PM (aC6Sd)

65 Mary Jane!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

66 The Chronic.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (R5lpX)

67 So now that their demand to have weed legalize they are demanded the language be changed too?

Look at the balls on these pot heads.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (2DOZq)

68 I'm still not sure if this is a dream or reality, the Democrats shut down the government because they want illegals in. Its either brilliant move that will get them millions more voters or loss of seats in Congress

My prediction is that they will lose seats in Congress.

Sometimes the campaign commercials just write themselves.

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (7DwnJ)

69 ... Schumer now knows that he fucked up, and may be collateral damage, so he'll fight to drag it out. He may lose his leadership position over this.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (pV/54)


Schumer is a general fighting the last war. His antics have always worked on the GOPe. Trump is not the old GOPe.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (T71PA)

70 when pot is criminalized only criminals will






Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (Aj/1C)

71 Cheeba!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

72 Kidlet wanted to yell something to them. I said don't lower yourself to their level. She agreed.
Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 09:32 PM (EGFUD)


Also, don't make yourself a target.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at January 20, 2018 09:36 PM (+F0Wk)

73 The Weed nowadays is so powerful, one hit will literally take your breath away...or so a friend told me.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:36 PM (R5lpX)

74 Schumer is a general fighting the last war. His antics have always worked on the GOPe. Trump is not the old GOPe.

Trump is standing firm. Love that man!

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (7DwnJ)

75 Trump imposes mandatory voter ID policy via pen-and-phone-ocracy.

Democrats immediately cease any and all caring about so-called "Dreamers".

Hey, it could happen.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (T28di)

76 Skip, no matter what the talking heads say, this is a loser for the dems. I mean, think about average Joe that doesn't pay attention to politics that much. He's going to at least see that the dems want illegals more than American citizens. I hope this doesn't end well for them.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (EGFUD)

77 420!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (NWiLs)

78
56 I've been gone for a long time. Are there still lace wigs available?
Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (iPbC0)

---------

*checks inventory*

Nope. Sold out.

Got a few cat filters left.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (/SISC)

79 I wish I was being paid for this comment like all you other guys.

Posted by: non-essential commenter at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (iPbC0)

80 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (arhmY)

81 69
... Schumer now knows that he fucked up, and may be collateral
damage, so he'll fight to drag it out. He may lose his leadership
position over this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (pV/54)



Schumer is a general fighting the last war. His antics have always worked on the GOPe. Trump is not the old GOPe.





Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (T71PA)

And, importantly, the mfm no longer controls the info flow.

Posted by: davidt at January 20, 2018 09:38 PM (fUJvh)

82 Went out to eat tonight at and When we came back to Andrews, the Moose outside said the base was closed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2018 09:38 PM (FPzw8)

83 15 Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (owoHM)


So, piercings are totes cool, right?!?

Posted by: Trimegistus's kids at January 20, 2018 09:38 PM (NL6wI)

84 It's either brilliant move that will get them millions more voters or loss of seats in Congress.
----
A great kingdom shall fall.

Posted by: the oracle of delphi at January 20, 2018 09:38 PM (ewxPW)

85 Peaches!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 09:39 PM (ewxPW)

86 Made the hot 100!

Posted by: fluffy at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (cHbmY)

87 It's too early to gloat, right?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (7DwnJ)

88 I wish I was being paid for this comment like all you other guys.
Posted by: non-essential commenter at January 20, 2018 09:37 PM (iPbC0)


You need to join the Commenters Union. Just send me the $100 registration fee and you too will get rich beyond your wildest imagination.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (T71PA)

89 82 Went out to eat tonight at and When we came back to Andrews, the Moose outside said the base was closed.
____________________________________

Come on over to JBAB. Bowling alley is still open.

Pizza and beer too!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (arhmY)

90 When's the last time a Democrat politician fought tooth and nail for a Democrat issue for Democrat voters the way they're going after this amnesty/DACA thing?

There's just something fishy about the whole thing.

Is it Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Some nefarious cabal between the Mexican cartels and the Deep State?

Just plain old "bring in uneducated, desperate people and promise them free shit so they vote for us, then illegally count their votes"?

What is making them so bloody-mindedly desperate?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (T28di)

91 Reefer!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

92 there's always room for choom

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (Aj/1C)

93 I could see a big cartoon hedgehog come out of the top corner of that photo
DINSDALE!

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (aC6Sd)

94 Thanks for the ONT.

I think the reason Zicam works is that people are much more motivated to fight off a disease than they are to shove swabs up their nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (ycWCI)

95 I get paid to shop for things I use every day. You can too!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (/SISC)

96 33
it's wheelBARROW

not wheelBARREL

and NOT wheelBARROL

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (tAiTN)


Ok, since the Engrish police are here....

It's 'run amok' not 'run a muck'

It's Filipino. It means 'flies into a trance-like rage'.

Usually involves a bolo, sindang, or other sharp, pointy thing. Someone ends up un-whole. There is blood.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (OtVYM)

97 "Lohrke said a "good portion" of the money was recovered, but investigators believe some of the money went down a storm drain."

Yeah , down the storm drain. That's the ticket.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (2DOZq)

98 Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.
---
It is fine velum for the illuminator's art.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (qJtVm)

99 I wish I was being paid for this comment like all you other guys.
Posted by: non-essential commenter at January





well, lots of commenters are quitting the hq to go drive for amazon which pays more and has better hours.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (MTjB1)

100

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (T71PA)

And, importantly, the mfm no longer controls the info flow.
Posted by: davidt at January 20, 2018 09:38 PM (fUJvh)

Without an all powerful media the Dems are in trouble. The GOPe would have to work really hard to remain powerless.

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (nBr1j)

101 Schumer is a general fighting the last war.

-
Schumer is Braxton Bragg. W. is George McClellan. Romney is Joseph Hooker.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (+y/Ru)

102 Democrats need to be careful. When Americans learn that we can shut down government and it doesn't matter, we may shut it down more often.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (arhmY)

103 smoke grass, get ass

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (Aj/1C)

104 You need to join the Commenters Union. Just send me the $100 registration fee and you too will get rich beyond your wildest imagination.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (T71PA)


Does that also cover all modalities?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (+F0Wk)

105 lol. Trump trolls the pussy march. Link to twitchy.

https://tinyurl.com/ya7rqz87

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (EGFUD)

106 Wacky tabacky!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

107 Wrote earlier, its curious this shutdown came just when some things are breaking with the Fusion GPS and a memo being passed around congress on FICA abuse

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:43 PM (aC6Sd)

108 Wait. Are you saying a Hooker ran for president?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2018 09:43 PM (arhmY)

109 seriously the paid commenter gig is the internet equivalent of stuffing envelopes and having to provide your own spit.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:43 PM (MTjB1)

110 Hold it down Mary Jane!

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:44 PM (UTaNm)

111 Does that also cover all modalities?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (+F0Wk)

Modalities? Modalities. Yeah, it covers those too.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:44 PM (T71PA)

112 seriously the paid commenter gig is the internet equivalent of stuffing envelopes and having to provide your own spit.

--------


I have lots of spit.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS at January 20, 2018 09:44 PM (/SISC)

113 After the robber that got locked in the shop he was robbing, the Genius Award winners are going to have to up their game.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 09:44 PM (c/EDo)

114 Schumer is Braxton Bragg. W. is George McClellan. Romney is Joseph Hooker.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (+y/Ru)

And Obama was Captain Parmenter.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:45 PM (T28di)

115 98 Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.
---
It is fine velum for the illuminator's art.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (qJtVm


Is she a size 12?

Posted by: Jame Gumb at January 20, 2018 09:45 PM (OtVYM)

116 wacky weed for your wacky needs

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:45 PM (Aj/1C)

117 Schwag!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

118 Alright I bettrr call it, I'll be one of the last posters on this thread probably.
Goodnight horde

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:45 PM (aC6Sd)

119 Spliff!

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (Aj/1C)

120 Dad had one of the local FNMs on earlier and they said 150K marchers today in Denver and around the country. I was like no way they had that many people in Denver and then figured that was the total all around the country and the propagandist was just doing her best to make it sound like that many people shared the insane butt hurt.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (84F5k)

121 congress on FICA abuse
______________________________

You mean FISA abuse.

FICA abuse is what you do to potted plants.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (arhmY)

122 Schumer is a general fighting the last war. His antics have always worked on the GOPe. Trump is not the old GOPe.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:35 PM (T71PA) >>>

And I don't understand Schumer's timing. It's a long time to the November mid-term election. Yeah, Trump's promise to leave the DACA persons alone until March 5 will soon expire, but every one of the DACA's will not be deported on March 6.

Posted by: Gref at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (AMIL/)

123 Democrats need to be careful. When Americans learn that we can shut down government and it doesn't matter, we may shut it down more often.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January




many long times ago the bus drivers in minneapolis went on strike. in the lead up to the strike everyone was wailing, moaning, and gnashing their teeth about the chaos that would ensue. bus drivers went on strike. nothing happened.

this was partly because lots of people that relied on buses relied on buses because they had no alternative, but all the same funny.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (MTjB1)

124 The Pot Sellers in the WaPo article sound like a bunch of whiny bitches.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (oVJmc)

125 121 congress on FICA abuse
______________________________

You mean FISA abuse.

FICA abuse is what you do to potted plants.
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (arhmY)

FICA abuse is what happens to your paycheck.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

126 muh cronic


MUH CRONIC

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (Aj/1C)

127 Come on over to JBAB. Bowling alley is still open.

Pizza and beer too!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2018 09:40 PM (arhmY)

I'm beat. I think I am going to get paid but not sure. But I am going to sleep well, get up early tomorrow and get the hell out of dodge.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2018 09:48 PM (FPzw8)

128 Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (owoHM)

I advised my kid to pick their tattoo and get several copies of it printed. Take those copies and put them everywhere. Mirrors, in the car etc. If she is not sick of that picture in 12 months time then go ahead with the tat.

Posted by: Derptastic at January 20, 2018 09:48 PM (DB16e)

129 how funny would it be if someone got a tattoo that looked like someone's doodle pad?


some tattoo artist was doodling on a client during a conference call.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:48 PM (MTjB1)

130 >>I have lots of spit.



*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS

There is a difference between spit and drool.

Posted by: Aviator at January 20, 2018 09:49 PM (2cuLk)

131 Watching women's curling. Not exactly black yoga pants on but tight enough to see nice ass-cheek hearts with the overhead camera angle.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 09:49 PM (ewxPW)

132 Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty:




NEVER trust this guy. Never. Hateful person. He talks about revenge on Americans, etc. when he gives his speeches in Spanish.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:49 PM (UTaNm)

133 I sure hope when I get the call to go back to work, they don't tell me I have to go through diversity training.

I called my boss a couple of days ago and they were sponsoring a diversity workshop with one of our corporate employers, a very major corporation. It might be because a few of our recent new employees had made snide remarks about minorities and transgenders that were overheard and reported to the higher ups. Instant termination.

Why can't people use a little common sense and realize that there is a time and place for those jokes and the job site isn't one of them.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (R5lpX)

134 94 Thanks for the ONT.

I think the reason Zicam works is that people are much more motivated to fight off a disease than they are to shove swabs up their nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2018 09:41 PM (ycWCI)


The zinc lozenges seem to work for me.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (di1hb)

135 I have lots of spit.



*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS

There is a difference between spit and drool.
Posted by: Aviator at January




yeah, having to wipe every envelope across your chin takes too long.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (MTjB1)

136 The Mothra larvae are spewing a bunch of white stuff all over Godzilla.


Godzilla is NOT pleased.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (8iiMU)

137 There is a difference between spit and drool.
Posted by: Aviator at January 20, 2018 09:49 PM (2cuLk)

Isn't that the exact same thing as the difference between flotsam and jetsam?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (T28di)

138 105: I was initially a Cruz supporter, but I adore a man who can troll the pussyheads! He has exceeded expectations, but I pray that he holds the line on immigration and makes Schumer cry like a schoolgirl

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (5gaNQ)

139 You guys are funny.

Drunk and high. But funny.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (UTaNm)

140 136: Always liked old Mothra

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (5gaNQ)

141
The zinc lozenges seem to work for me.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (di1hb)

---------

And if you bolt them to your ass you can cut down on electrolysis.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (/SISC)

142 139 You guys are funny.

Drunk and high. But funny.
Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (UTaNm)

Stone cold sober. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (NWiLs)

143 Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty:

Here's my offer: Nothing, no amnesty and I'd appreciate if Gutierrez and his left wing pals finaince the the whole themsleves.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (FPzw8)

144 Do people who run diversity seminars for a living have to attend diversity seminars?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (T28di)

145 Had a regular day. Roads were open, stores were open, radio was on, internet worked. When do we start dying from global reduction in government?

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2018 09:52 PM (cW490)

146 I advised my kid to pick their tattoo.


No, no.

Offer to pay for whatever they pick if they agree to also add a To Do list with empty checkboxes on their forearm.

[ ] Clean room.
[ ] Do Laundry
[ ] Do homework
[ ] Mow yard


win/win

Posted by: the absolute value of T at January 20, 2018 09:52 PM (Aj/1C)

147 Isn't that the exact same thing as the difference between flotsam and jetsam?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (

--------

You're thinking of flora and fauna.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:52 PM (/SISC)

148 OMG! THIS IS GETTING SERIOUS!!!

Binyamin Appelbaum@BCAppelbaum
Midnight. The National Zoo has released its lions. Good luck to everyone in Northwest DC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:52 PM (+y/Ru)

149 33
it's wheelBARROW

not wheelBARREL

and NOT wheelBARROL
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2018 09:25 PM (tAiTN)

You don't have to tell me.

Posted by: Molly Malone at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (tMFgx)

150 145 Had a regular day. Roads were open, stores were open, radio was on, internet worked. When do we start dying from global reduction in government?
Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2018 09:52 PM (cW490)

We're already dead. This is Purgatory.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (NWiLs)

151 139
You guys are funny.



Drunk and high. But funny.



Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (UTaNm)
I have half a bottle of wine in me, but sober.
Dang it


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (8iiMU)

152 No amnesty, let the donks choke on this!

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (5gaNQ)

153 135 I have lots of spit.



*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS

There is a difference between spit and drool.
Posted by: Aviator at January




yeah, having to wipe every envelope across your chin takes too long.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (MTjB1)


That's not her chin.

Posted by: Huma at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (OtVYM)

154 Binyamin Appelbaum@BCAppelbaum
Midnight. The National Zoo has released its lions. Good luck to everyone in Northwest DC.

--------

Heh. They must be federal lions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (/SISC)

155 growing up, my uncles who were WW2 vets - Marines and Sailors had tattoos. As they grew older, I realized I never ever wanted a tattoo.

Posted by: Archer at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (ETZ19)

156 And if you bolt them to your ass you can cut down on electrolysis.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (/SISC)

Stop it! I was sipping water and did a spit take when I read that.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (T71PA)

157 143 Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty:

That's not how this works. But you'll get your wall.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (cW490)

158 flotsam and jetsam?

#metalthread

\m/ \m/

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (bNbo2)

159 146: I told my kids that tattoos and piercings would be their Thomas Jefferson moment and I would consider it a Declaration of (financial) Independence. They took me at their word.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 09:55 PM (5gaNQ)

160 To be honest, I actually do prefer piercings to tattoos. If you take out the studs/rings/whatever, the little holes are almost invisible.

Unless you're one of those mentally-ill freaks who stretches his earlobe out like he's some kind of primitive Amazon tribesman. Might as well get a big tattoo saying "UNEMPLOYABLE STONER" across your forehead.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:55 PM (owoHM)

161 We don't need no immigration.
We don't need no antifa patrol.
No lies and slanders in the newsroom.
Leftards leave this country alone.
Hey! Assholes leave us the fuck alone.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 09:55 PM (/qEW2)

162 Don't think there's much doubt this is a big loser for Dems, that in fact it's a "dream" come true for GOP (potentially). Some doubt, but very little, just the usual CYA required on all forecasts involving human affairs.


I've been begging for this to happen for a while, or something like it.


But how it is exploited by Trump and the GOP is key. Hard to completely blow it, but at this point, failure to get maximum results is unacceptable (that's how bad the situation is).


The vulnerable D senators simply cannot die on this hill. Yesterday 5 of them voted for the CR, the first crack in the wall since Trump was inaugurated. Just the beginning, properly handled.


One thing, though: I concur (as in have said it before I saw it) with a GOP congresscritter who last week tweeted that Trump needs to get *everything* he needs in his first term, in exchange for some kind of DACA. The Dems will not go along with *anything* immigration-related, after that. If the mid-terms give the GOP 60 votes, or 58ish and a few terrified Dem survivors, then there may be action prior to 2020. Not otherwise. Period.


Cannot believe Trump and Co. don't understand this.


Hope the shutdown continues for a while (don't think it will).


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2018 09:55 PM (QDnY+)

163 154 Binyamin Appelbaum@BCAppelbaum
Midnight. The National Zoo has released its lions. Good luck to everyone in Northwest DC.

--------

Heh. They must be federal lions.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:53 PM (/SISC)

I would not be surprised if they have a government union.

Would you?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2018 09:55 PM (ycWCI)

164 139 You guys are funny.

Drunk and high. But funny.
Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (UTaNm)

Stone cold sober. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (NWiLs)


https://tinyurl.com/y9qt5syd

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:56 PM (UTaNm)

165 Flotsam are random items in the water from a ship.

Jetsam are items that were actually intentionally jettisoned from a ship.

If I recall.






Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 09:56 PM (8iiMU)

166 Senator, You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:57 PM (pV/54)

167 https://tinyurl.com/y9qt5syd

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 09:56 PM (UTaNm)

Never stops being hilarious!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:57 PM (NWiLs)

168 165 Flotsam are random items in the water from a ship.

Jetsam are items that were actually intentionally jettisoned from a ship.

If I recall.


---------

Where does dunnage fit into this scheme?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:57 PM (/SISC)

169 >>Luis Gutierrez says he's ready to give in on a wall for a Dreamer amnesty

Probably amnesty now with a promise to build a wall in 20 years.

Posted by: Aviator at January 20, 2018 09:58 PM (2cuLk)

170 Only acceptable tattoo: fouled anchor on someone who has actually served in the Navy or Marines.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 09:58 PM (owoHM)

171 141
The zinc lozenges seem to work for me.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2018 09:50 PM (di1hb)

---------

And if you bolt them to your ass you can cut down on electrolysis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 09:51 PM (/SISC)


I went with the laser method.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2018 09:58 PM (di1hb)

172 Binyamin Appelbaum@BCAppelbaum
Midnight. The National Zoo has released its lions. Good luck to everyone in Northwest DC.

--------

Heh. They must be federal lions.

-
At the library, you have to read between the lions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:58 PM (+y/Ru)

173 Ugh. One of the curlers (Native Indian?) has at least one full sleeve of tats.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 09:59 PM (ewxPW)

174 I'd say there are more than a couple of dozen stories of burglars getting stuck in the chimney. Some of them were never rescued.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:59 PM (2DOZq)

175 Flotsam are random items in the water from a ship.

Jetsam are items that were actually intentionally jettisoned from a ship.

If I recall.






Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 09:56 PM (8iiMU)

You are correct, except that eventually, jetsam becomes flotsam when another vessel comes upon it.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:59 PM (R5lpX)

176 I need to borrow a time machine to read a history book 200 years from now, and see what they say about Trump. How do they dissect and study his presidency from a purely poli-sci stance.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 09:59 PM (T28di)

177 158 flotsam and jetsam?

#metalthread

\m/ \m/

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (bNbo2)


Whoo-hoo!

Flotsam and Jetsam: Camera Eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiU1ID65FHI

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (NL6wI)

178 I told my kids that tattoos and piercings would be their Thomas Jefferson moment and I would consider it a Declaration of (financial) Independence. They took me at their word.
Posted by: CN at January




well, you will have to let us know how you intend to ensure compliance since I have encountered tattoos on young ladies in places I would not want to think you frequently encounter on your daughters, or sons.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (MTjB1)

179 This isn't Purgatory. There's too much fun, and dogs are here to enrich our lives.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (ewxPW)

180 Flotsam, Jetsam & Goldstein
Counselors at Law

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (/SISC)

181 105 lol. Trump trolls the pussy march. Link to twitchy.

https://tinyurl.com/ya7rqz87
Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 09:42 PM (EGFUD)


That is awesome. He is like a third degree black belt on Twitter.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

182 Where's the cats? It's Caturday Night!?!

Posted by: pogomip at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (Mjbd+)

183
Where does dunnage fit into this scheme?
Posted by: Cicero
---------------

Through your windshield, if it isn't adequately cabled down on the flatbed in front of you.

It's an ugly story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 10:00 PM (nBBdT)

184 Flotsam and Jetsam is the Chapter in the Two Towers where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli finally find Merry and Pippin, smoking after a solid hobbit-sized meal.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:01 PM (bNbo2)

185 Mulvaney sez Trump told him to manage the shutdown carefully, no "weaponization" (a la the last time, under Bambi, the disgraceful outrageous stuff with the park service, etc.). Not happy about that - but that's perhaps only part of the story, and the PR part.


Doubt Dems will let this go on very long - they really have pulled a pin on a grenade and dropped down their shorts this time - but if they do, come on, Mulvaney, do some remodeling on budgets and head counts during the gap.


And how about an SOTU in this situation? Shutdown the opposition is probably already regretting, historically explosive scandal reports/docs breaking any minute. And Donald J. Effing TRUMP at the podium in the House.


Haven't watched an SOTU in a geologic age. This one will be a don't-miss.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2018 10:01 PM (QDnY+)

186 The Jetsams was a fucking cartoon. Duh!

Posted by: joey biden at January 20, 2018 10:01 PM (ewxPW)

187 Flotsam For The Defense

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 10:02 PM (/SISC)

188 155 growing up, my uncles who were WW2 vets - Marines and Sailors had tattoos. As they grew older, I realized I never ever wanted a tattoo.
Posted by: Archer at January 20, 2018 09:54 PM (ETZ19)

One of the main reasons I got my tattoo was my Marine father's tattoo. I'm am still trying to emulate everything he was.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:02 PM (2DOZq)

189 "Your skin is not scrap paper to be scribbled on.

Posted by: Trimegistus"

If I got a tattoo it would be of Barack, Michele, Hillary, Huma, Valarie, Eric Loretta, bound and shackled, all lined up at the foot of the stairs leading up to a gallows.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 10:02 PM (w+Jhj)

190 125 121 congress on FICA abuse
______________________________

You mean FISA abuse.

FICA abuse is what you do to potted plants.
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at January 20, 2018 09:46 PM (arhmY)

FICA abuse is what happens to your paycheck.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

Well, at first glimpse I thought you guys were discussing ficus abuse. You weren't, I hope. Or were you??

Posted by: Final Arbiter of Reality at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (3pGfC)

191 I have no tattoos. I have yet to see anything I'd want permanently placed on my skin like that.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (NWiLs)

192 The Jetsams was a fucking cartoon. Duh!

Posted by: joey biden at January 20, 2018 10:01 PM (ewxPW)

...Flora and Fauna were the Coo Coo Pigeon sisters.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (T71PA)

193 Well, at first glimpse I thought you guys were discussing ficus abuse. You weren't, I hope. Or were you??
Posted by: Final Arbiter of Reality at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (3pGfC)

It's not abuse if it consents.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (NWiLs)

194 178: They're in their mid thirties now, neither has tats or piercings beyond a single hole in each ear for normal womanly earrings...strangely my girls tell me much more than I really want to know. And at this age they ARE financially independent anyway.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:04 PM (5gaNQ)

195 Federal government union workers are a power base for the Dems, and the Dems shutdown the Federal government.

Do they still get payed?

Posted by: davidt at January 20, 2018 10:04 PM (fUJvh)

196 I would never get a tattoo for the same reason you don't put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari.

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2018 10:04 PM (7DwnJ)

197 Yes, SOTU will be the fitting dramatic end to Season One of Trump the Presidency.

Reality TV, part scripted, part improv.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 10:04 PM (pV/54)

198 We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish pool
Year after year ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 10:05 PM (WbIyz)

199 Well, at first glimpse I thought you guys were discussing ficus abuse. You weren't, I hope. Or were you??
Posted by: Final Arbiter of Reality at January 20, 2018 10:03 PM (3pGfC)


Do NOT give them any ideas.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 10:05 PM (UTaNm)

200 And one niggling but critical detail: the WH *cannot* do any deal that is not phased, and conditional. Skinny DACA gets implemented *only* as milestones are met on border infrastructure - until then, everything is provisional and sunset-limited. Oh yeah.


And Trump's mentioned chain/lottery migration ending as part of any deal. Alter the deal further, Darth Trump - get the guts of RAISE in there, make it your baseline. Dems balk, run against them on it, in House and Senate. Trump is going to *live* in certain states and districts starting this summer, I'll bet.


Glorious.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2018 10:05 PM (QDnY+)

201 er ... bowl

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 10:05 PM (WbIyz)

202 you don't put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari.
-----
My other car is a Mazda!

Posted by: joey biden at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (ewxPW)

203 Trump is holding all the cards here.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (/SISC)

204 you have to give more warning on the early bird ont's so the folks have a chance to hike their plaid pants up to their chest and get the double pronged white belt fastened. have to drive all the way across the internets with the turn signal on.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM


You surely aren't suggesting that anyone here is over 29

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (DMUuz)

205 Oh man! It is in the 20s and I have to take the dog out for his late night evacuation. But looking at that top photo, all I want is comfortable clothes, a good spinning rig and a bucket of grass shrimp for bait. SIGH!!

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2018 10:07 PM (V+03K)

206 204 you have to give more warning on the early bird ont's so the folks have a chance to hike their plaid pants up to their chest and get the double pronged white belt fastened. have to drive all the way across the internets with the turn signal on.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 09:28 PM

You surely aren't suggesting that anyone here is over 29
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (DMUuz)

*buckles sandles*
*hikes up black socks*

What?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 10:07 PM (NWiLs)

207 One of the main reasons I got my tattoo was my Marine father's tattoo. I'm am still trying to emulate everything he was.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol
--
And he knows it Roc. Good on you buddy.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 10:07 PM (tr2D7)

208 Cicero, yep. More than any situation of importance I can recall in domestic politics, for a long time. His only problem is the significant stupidity of many GOP on immigration - but many of them are cowed right now, and know Trump's election means their druthers on that topic simply won't fly any more (they hid/lied about it, mostly, anyway).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (QDnY+)

209 I have never gotten a tattoo, mostly because I never had a life-moment that warranted one. I am the oldest of seven kids. I and my one year younger brother are the only ones who do not have a tattoo. My dad is a Marine, but does not have a tattoo.

In the past I had moments where I thought a tat would be cool. But then I think of Homer Simpson looking at his tat:

Starland Vocal Band?! They suck!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (bNbo2)

210 I need a doggeh. A mellow one like me.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (EGFUD)

211 You surely aren't suggesting that anyone here is over 29
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (DMUuz)

Actually, I think he just called us all hipsters....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (T28di)

212 so the folks have a chance to hike their plaid pants up to their chest...


Yes men. What is that all about. Is it ball related? It's like skinny jeans...it is not a good look.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (UTaNm)

213 Thanks for the "coin a phrase" rant on the sidebar. See it on Insty all the time and it makes me grind my teeth. Glad I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 20, 2018 10:09 PM (1ouh3)

214 Have mentioned it before. Dermatologist friend who does part clinical/part research says venture capital $$ in his specialty has been concentrated in tattoo removal for some time. A yuuuuge future market is clearly anticipated. Gee I wonder why?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2018 10:09 PM (QDnY+)

215 I need a doggeh. A mellow one like me.
Posted by: Infidel at January




go to the shelter, get one.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:09 PM (MTjB1)

216 Winning near-term is to get a month funding extension to then push a bill that marries DACA to the rest of Trump's immigration plan.

D Senators vulnerable in 2018 will be forced to go along.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 10:09 PM (pV/54)

217 buckles sandles*
*hikes up black socks*

What?
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 10:07 PM (NWiLs)


roflu

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 10:09 PM (UTaNm)

218 I*m driving 5 mph BELOW the speed limit in the left lane with my left turn signal AND my high beams on. Oh and you damn kids; GET OFF MY LAWN!

Posted by: Archer at January 20, 2018 10:10 PM (ETZ19)

219 125
FICA abuse is what happens to your paycheck.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)


Surely the government shutdown means they won't take any more deductions from our paychecks, right?

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:10 PM (sdi6R)

220 I need a doggeh. A mellow one like me.
Posted by: Infidel at January

Bassett Hound

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:10 PM (2DOZq)

221 203 Trump is holding all the cards here.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 10:06 PM (/SISC)

And his adversaries and enemies willfully refuse to see this.

So fooking awesome. I love PDT.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:11 PM (bNbo2)

222 214: I understand it's very uncomfortable to have those things removed.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:11 PM (5gaNQ)

223 You surely aren't suggesting that anyone here is over 29

-
It was raining today so parking close to the City Market door was desireable. I guess they're wizards with plastic surgery these days because the woman parked in the senior citizens slot looked 30 years younger than me. (And I never park in the SC slot.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 10:12 PM (+y/Ru)

224 My dad is a WW2 R.C.N. vet and he doesn't have any nautical tattoos either. I can't recall if my late Scottish WW2 merchant marine vet neighbour had any but I think he did have a forearm one.

Posted by: amdycanuck at January 20, 2018 10:13 PM (ewxPW)

225 222 214: I understand it's very uncomfortable to have those things removed.
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:11 PM (5gaNQ)

Getting one is not this most comfortable thing either.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:13 PM (2DOZq)

226 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/954786087209259008

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/954786248949985280

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/954786346320760832

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/954786432937349120

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/954786533726355456

https://giant.gfycat.com/RelievedVeneratedHalicore.webm

Posted by: kbdabear at January 20, 2018 10:13 PM (eh0Va)

227 Pussyhatter: I AM A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN!

Me: You have a nice smile.

Pussyhatter: OMG I WAS JUST SEXUALLY ASSAULTED #METOO *hysteric sobbing*

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:14 PM (+dsLj)

228 If I had to choose between alcohol (a poisonous solvent, even if occasionally tasty) and THC (a psychoactive chemical that fits into cannabinoid receptors), I go with THC. I rarely drink these days as it is. After a long week of real property litigation -- defending California real property owners from Marxisms/Maoism -- I love a potent edible, writing and playing music on my keyboards, reading WW2 books, eating a cobb salad, and getting intimate with my girlfriend. Alcohol doesn't remotely have the same appeal to me. I'm 50, successful, have my stuff together, pay a shitload of taxes, and you can just leave me alone thank you.

Maybe I'm the only one here who enjoys THC; so be it.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (dZ756)

229 It was raining today so parking close to the City Market door was desireable. I guess they're wizards with plastic surgery these days because the woman parked in the senior citizens slot looked 30 years younger than me. (And I never park in the SC slot.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January




since when did senior citizens get parking slots? parking lots are already overrun with handicapped slots. now they have more types of handicapped slots for vans, some are perpendicular to the store, some parallel. slots for electrics. enough.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (MTjB1)

230 Most of what i inhale is quite 'kind'.

Posted by: Gumby at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (kitQ2)

231 Posted by: kbdabear at January 20, 2018 10:13 PM (eh0Va)

The only thing that would make those breast more perfect is if they squirted money out of them.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (2DOZq)

232 waiting for the pussy hatters to start making balaclavas.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:16 PM (MTjB1)

233 Trump's master troll-tweet of the women's march is one for the ages.

One twatter replies: "Are you being sarcastic?"

LOL

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:16 PM (+dsLj)

234 227: I hate pussyheads, mad hatters, but I think the knitter who came up with those idiotic hats must be a closet conservative. Nothing says juvenile and unserious like adults in pink cat ears!

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:16 PM (5gaNQ)

235 The only tattoo I consider OK is a memorial. You are honoring someone's memory.

Your granddad, grandma, someone really special. And not everyone. Just the specials. Whoever gave you your absolutely most important life lesson.
You've only got so much skin on which to do this appropriately.

And it is somewhere readily covered by everyday clothing. Up on the bicep above the tee shirt sleeve line.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (U6f54)

236 Don't Bassett's bark a lot?

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (EGFUD)

237 Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (dZ756)

I think the snark is because they are demanding a name change. As they say, give an inch , demand a mile.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (2DOZq)

238 They need transexual parking slots where you can park parallel, diagonal, forward, backward, what ever you want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (+y/Ru)

239 219 125
FICA abuse is what happens to your paycheck.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

Surely the government shutdown means they won't take any more deductions from our paychecks, right?
Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:10 PM (sdi6R)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (NWiLs)

240 236 Don't Bassett's bark a lot?
Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (EGFUD)

How could they with all the sleeping.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (2DOZq)

241 Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2018 10:18 PM (U6f54)


Kidlet has one of the name of the baby she lost to SIDS. Not always noticable.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (EGFUD)

242 Yeah, I wish I was there, too. Winter storm warning for tomorrow night. Gack!

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with a Deplorable Basket of Deplorable Cats at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (GWRlV)

243 One for the pussy hat marchers... Women are Teachable!

https://tinyurl.com/yckjd9ka


Posted by: davidt at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (fUJvh)

244 Don't Bassett's bark a lot?
Posted by: Infidel at January





your dog will eventually conform to your behavior, so long as you are able to demonstrate some form of leadership.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (MTjB1)

245 No tats here. My dad got one as a teenager in the navy in the late 40s. Just an American flag, 48 stars, rippling in the breeze. I thought it was cool and spoke about getting one when I was older. Let's just say his response did not encourage my youthful impulse.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2018 10:20 PM (V+03K)

246 Maybe I'm the only one here who enjoys THC; so be it.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (dZ756)

Nothing wrong with it except for the legal aspect. But if you can imbibe and not get caught, more power to you. I used to like to smoke the Chronic, but it's so powerful now, it will literally take your breath away. I mean after exhaling, you can't catch your breath and actually get a cough high after only one hit.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 10:21 PM (R5lpX)

247 were I to get a tattoo it would be for some commemorative purpose and would not be on display.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:21 PM (MTjB1)

248 225: Not to mention the thousands of dollars all those laser treatments cost for removal.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:22 PM (5gaNQ)

249 What's going on with all Franken? He seems to have dropped out of the news.

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 10:22 PM (rnwV8)

250 I love women with tattoos. It's like a neon sign over their heads saying, "Kiss me, I have Hep C!"

Before you had to find that out the hard way.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:22 PM (+dsLj)

251 Here's another corruption of a perfectly cromulent word that bugs the shit out of me - using "abortion" for "abomination."

"Orange County Chopper bikes are complete abortions."

No, they're abominations. That should have been aborted before the first tack weld.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (1ouh3)

252 nothing especially interesting about tattoos since they have been mainstreamed. everyone cool, and truly deviant, gets branded.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (MTjB1)

253 What's going on with all Franken? He seems to have dropped out of the news.

-
Maybe he bought a sex robot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (+y/Ru)

254 249
What's going on with all Franken? He seems to have dropped out of the news.

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 10:22 PM (rnwV

He's not good enough, not smart enough, and gosh darn it nobody likes him.

Posted by: davidt at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (fUJvh)

255 Maybe he bought a sex robot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January




maybe he is working as a sex robot, anonymously.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (MTjB1)

256 The new arms race - advanced AI is the only defence against advanced AI in the hands of ruthless enemies.

The most terrifying aspect of the AI scare - unlike increasingly distant climate threats, the AI revolution which upends all of our lives might happen tomorrow, before we can prepare.

This might be one of the last Davos meetings which even pretends to take the climate scare seriously. The AI scare is in - coming soon to your community.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 20, 2018 10:24 PM (e8kgV)

257 Maybe I am different, but I enjoy the seasons. I want winter to snowy and bone chilling cold, summer hot and sunny, Spring cool and wet, fall warm days cool nights. Winter is my favorite the more snow the better.

Posted by: Archer at January 20, 2018 10:25 PM (ETZ19)

258 Maybe he bought a sex robot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January




lowering his expectations

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 10:25 PM (MTjB1)

259 Hey everybody.

Did everyone see this? It's an image of what the child would look like at age 12, if Chuckie Schumer and Nancy Pelosi had a baby together:

https://tinyurl.com/ya8cxkab

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)

260 246 Maybe I'm the only one here who enjoys THC; so be it.

I'll admit that I enjoy it. But it isn't legal in my state and it's not worth risking the trouble I could find by trying to purchase it or posses it So, one more thing that I let go of a long time ago.

I have a brother in law in Oregon, 71 years old, who loves to tell me how much he enjoys his brownie each night before he goes to bed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 10:26 PM (V2Yro)

261 I've taken on the thankless job of purging the service dog abusers from the supermarkets. Whenever I see an obvious scammer, I buttonhole the nearest employee and insist they run and get me the manager, immediately.

Most are sympathetic and in agreement with me when I say the dog has no place being in a place where fresh food is being sold. Some go right away to confront the scammer.

Some tell me that HQ has instructed them they can do nothing. To those, I say I am leaving the store and won't return, will tell everyone I know about the filthy situation, and that I will report them to the county.

I ask why, if they did not allow this five years ago, they allow it now. I ask why their food handlers wear gloves and hair nets.

I say how can a fucking yorkshire terrier be a service dog.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2018 10:26 PM (U6f54)

262 Did everyone see this? It's an image of what the child would look like at age 12, if Chuckie Schumer and Nancy Pelosi had a baby together

************************

Nope, not clicking, nope.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:27 PM (+dsLj)

263 Greetings fappers and fappees.

I'm done with my gig and have a cold Guinness at the ready.

I did stop by OM's previous post to gape at some of that hand-drawn animation. Will be returning. How awesome.

Hope the Horde is well this fine evening.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:28 PM (tRaq7)

264 234 227: I hate pussyheads, mad hatters, but I think the knitter who came up with those idiotic hats must be a closet conservative. Nothing says juvenile and unserious like adults in pink cat ears!
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:16 PM (5gaNQ)


Actually I think the hats are kind of cute. Of course, any headgear looks good on an attractive woman. I've seen pictures of women who rock those pussyhats.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)

265

In Seattle for a course downtown, ugh.

Today was of course Lesbian PussyRiot Day.

Fully hundreds, yes hundreds, of women, near-women, pseudo-women and persons of indeterminate gender but who smell like a lesbian's perineum attended.

Utter fizzle from what was in the local media over the day. More bums on the sidewalks than quim in the streets.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:28 PM (e2ieZ)

266 Maybe I'm the only one here who enjoys THC; so be it.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2018 10:15 PM (dZ756)

My experience with "grass" has been limited. Mostly skunk-weed from the '80s. Did some edibles once, not too long ago. it was weird. I may consider another delivery device. Or not. I have a problem with the whole legality aspect. Sure, it's totes cool in Colorado, but there is that pesky federal law. Do I agree? No. Not at all. Pot should be legal, or at least decriminalized. But, this kind of ambiguity is just the kind of thing that would prevent from legally obtaining the AR I want. So, booze it is.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:28 PM (bNbo2)

267 I enjoy the edible dope the stores sell here, but eating a THC brownie before going to bed is a total waste of drug money.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2018 10:29 PM (U6f54)

268 Chuck and Nancy's child would have his smug and her brain.

Posted by: Northernlurker-not really lurking anymore at January 20, 2018 10:30 PM (nBr1j)

269 Also, I've had enough lung issues that I know i should never smoke anything of any kind. Something inside tells me that it'll kill me if I try. So, I know there are other ways to partake, but smoking anything is something I will never do again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 10:30 PM (V2Yro)

270 264: But "kinds cute" isn't what the lib women are going for is it? And on the late middle age ladies and the trigglypuffs they look stupid, not to mention the men.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:30 PM (5gaNQ)

271 You know how semi drunk people think they are acting no different from when they are sober. Same goes for my pot smoking friends.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:31 PM (2DOZq)

272 >>I understand it's very uncomfortable to have those things removed.

Posted by: CN

And the results are not perfect.

Posted by: Aviator at January 20, 2018 10:32 PM (2cuLk)

273 I say how can a fucking yorkshire terrier be a service dog.





Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2018 10:26 PM (U6f54)

As sad as it seems, emotional support (I think it is BS but such animals are still covered by the ADA).

Posted by: redbanzai at January 20, 2018 10:32 PM (FTXAT)

274 ***Latest Concessions Schumer is Demanding from the GOP before he Gives Up the Shutdown***

- Oreos and whole milk served at his personal bedside every night before he goes to sleep

- Taxpayer-paid tranny surgery for his "very special secret friend"

- Fully funded federal research into inventing tighty whitey underwear for men that prevents him from sitting on and pinching his own balls all the time

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 10:32 PM (eMKNe)

275 I've slept through every brownie I've ever eaten.

But I understand the logic of getting the munchies and curing them at the same time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:32 PM (tRaq7)

276 - Fully funded federal research into inventing tighty whitey underwear for men that prevents him from sitting on and pinching his own balls all the time

*TWEEET!*

I'm throwing a flag on that one. Schuck Fumer has no balls.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:34 PM (tRaq7)

277 272: So I am told...by a younger colleague who was stupid enough to have the love of his life's name tatted on his arm. 3000+ dollars later, you know something was there, but the name is gone, at least. Said some of the treatments burned more than others

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:34 PM (5gaNQ)

278 270 264: But "kinds cute" isn't what the lib women are going for is it? And on the late middle age ladies and the trigglypuffs they look stupid, not to mention the men.
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:30 PM (5gaNQ)


Correct. And my comment about them looking cute is probably a form of rape.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (sdi6R)

279 Said some of the treatments burned more than others.

The hot silver wire up the urethra is frisky.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (e2ieZ)

280 Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:34 PM (5gaNQ)

Would have been cheaper and quicker to get a cover up tat if it was just the name he wanted to get rid of.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (2DOZq)

281 Regarding the top image: My dream getaway would be a snug cabin with a lot of firewood to feed a cast-iron stove, a huge chest freezer filled with moose meat and Green Giant Steamers; close to a creek, with a lot of snow to keep interlopers downhill...And my wife.

Who would hate the whole thing and demand we drive to the nearest Marriott hotel.

*sigh*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (bNbo2)

282 278: The "form of rape" comment is on target, but so incongruent from the girls who idolized sex and the city and who read the 50 shades series like it was the Bible

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:36 PM (5gaNQ)

283 So I am told...by a younger colleague who was stupid enough to have the love of his life's name tatted on his arm.

****************************

That's some brilliant shit right there.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (+dsLj)

284 "Never get a tattoo where a judge can see it" - Brian Setzer

Posted by: navybrat at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (7NKxb)

285

Green Giant Cleavland Steamers? Those things must be huge... and why would you want them in your chest freezer?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (e2ieZ)

286 My favorite picture of a Tattoo is one that says "No Regrets" spelled "regerts"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (V2Yro)

287 Would have been cheaper and quicker to get a cover up tat if it was just the name he wanted to get rid of.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol
---
Well that or simply finding another honey with the same name.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (tr2D7)

288 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (bNbo2)

There are a lot of affordable islands all around the United States . That is another thing on my wish list after I retire.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:38 PM (2DOZq)

289 Well, one mad hatter knows her place in the universe.

http://bit.ly/2DjnSXN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 10:38 PM (+y/Ru)

290 280: Also probably didn't want to wear sleeves to work forever. Visible tats and any piercing beyond one per ear is strictly forbidden

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:38 PM (5gaNQ)

291 Never wanted a tattoo; but, never say never. If I ever get one I'll be 80 yo trying to cover up something else. Like a wrinkle. But just don't see it happening. Well, maybe that 666 we are supposed to get. Maybe won't be able to get out of that one. I keed. Don't taze me.

Posted by: Professor Chaos, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at January 20, 2018 10:39 PM (UTaNm)

292 Well that or simply finding another honey with the same name.

******************

Better yet just get a tattoo that says "I Love ________" and fill the rest in with a magic marker.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 20, 2018 10:39 PM (+dsLj)

293 289: She's knows herself. A bunny boiler if ever I saw one.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 10:40 PM (5gaNQ)

294 Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 10:37 PM (tr2D7)

Hopefully her name wasn't Bertha. Not a lot of desirable Berthas out there.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:40 PM (2DOZq)

295 A few months ago some jackass brought his "service dog" into the coffeeshop I frequent. You could tell it was a service dog because it had a reflective vest on. Except that the leash wasn't that shoulder-to-shoulder handle type, it was just a rope tied to the back of the vest.

Real service dogs sit quietly with amazing patience and self restraint when they're on duty. This "service dog" immediately went over and stuck his head in the garbage can.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 20, 2018 10:41 PM (owoHM)

296 There are a lot of affordable islands all around the United States . That is another thing on my wish list after I retire.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol

Roc, do tell...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:42 PM (e2ieZ)

297 I have been thinking of getting a laser tattoo removal cert. I suspect that will be a growth industry in the next couple of decades, and there is always the problem of wanting a new tat where an old one is now.

I could buy a small RV and the laser gear and go from tattoo parlor to tattoo parlor, and do laser skin peels between.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 10:42 PM (2K6fY)

298 289 Well, one mad hatter knows her place in the universe.

http://bit.ly/2DjnSXN
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 10:38 PM (+y/Ru)


That sign is hilarious.

Yep, I recognize a "Keep Out" sign when I see one.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

299 The world's problems solved in less that 300 comments.

Excellent work, people. Your Federal bonus will be...ah...hmm.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 20, 2018 10:44 PM (zCyNd)

300 Well, one mad hatter knows her place in the universe.

She has a really mean and nasty cat?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:44 PM (tRaq7)

301 Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:42 PM (e2ieZ)

Lot of one acre islands already with a house in some of the Great Lakes under 500k.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 10:45 PM (2DOZq)

302 I could buy a small RV and the laser gear and go from tattoo parlor to tattoo parlor, and do laser skin peels between.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 10:42 PM (2K6fY)

A nice complement to the standard meth-based business model.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 20, 2018 10:45 PM (zCyNd)

303
A nice complement to the standard meth-based business model.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 20, 2018 10:45 PM (zCyNd)

----------

There's more money in the meth.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at January 20, 2018 10:46 PM (/SISC)

304 155 Archer -- Same with my father. He was Navy, so he had Navy themed tats on both forearms and upper arms. The older he got, the muddier the tats got until all you could see was a collage of red and blue splotches. People tell me today's inks are much more stable, but I just can't do it. Besides, when getting a tattoo was once a sign of rebellion, these days, not having a tattoo shows you're a non-conformist.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with a Deplorable Basket of Deplorable Cats at January 20, 2018 10:46 PM (GWRlV)

305 There are a lot of affordable islands all around the United States . That is another thing on my wish list after I retire.

I think Ginger Island is still up for sale. I'm only 6 numbers away from owning that place.

Which I would stock with gingers in bikinis. It may be a law, I'm not sure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:48 PM (tRaq7)

306 There's more money in the meth.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at January 20, 2018 10:46 PM (/SISC)

Depends on which is the upsell.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 20, 2018 10:48 PM (zCyNd)

307 mur weed.


MUR WHEEEEED!

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 10:48 PM (Aj/1C)

308 Heh. I just knocked my glasses off and was fumbling around for them on the floor exactly like Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 10:48 PM (sdi6R)

309 This government shutdown stuff never happened with Presdent Obama !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 20, 2018 10:50 PM (hqQ+Q)

310 The hot silver wire up the urethra is frisky.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:35 PM (e2ieZ)

One of the treatments for a large Kidney Stone is called an Urethascopy. They knock you out, then stick a long tube up the business end into your bladder. The tube has a camera, a laser to bust up the stone and a little basket to pick up the pieces. Unfortunately, there is still some "sand" that has to be expelled. To do that, a stent is installed that dips in the bladder and almost peeks out of your business end. For about three weeks, you have to piss all the time and it looks like Cherry Kool aid.

Also unfortunately, when it's time for the stent to be removed, they don't knock you out. You lay on a big table that has a big bar suspended from the ceiling. The doc comes in, sticks the tube with the camera and a claw on it up your business, finds the end of the stent, grabs ahold of it...says you better grab that bar above your head. He then puts one foot against the side of the table and Yanks the tube with the camera and the claw out of your business and low and behold, there's a 10 inch straw with a 2 inch bend in it.

Do you yell and scream when he Yanks it out... you're damn straight.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 10:50 PM (R5lpX)

311 Everybody's favorite game in the old folk's home in a few years will be "Guess what this tattoo used to be."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 10:51 PM (tRaq7)

312 kin quit anytime ah want to


just dont WAN too.


Muh WHEEEEED!!

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 10:52 PM (Aj/1C)

313 I need a doggeh. A mellow one like me.
Posted by: Infidel at January




Get a male, yellow tabby kitten from a known line of VERY LARGE yellow tabby cats.

Get said kitten neutered as early as the vet advises. Not only will it not spray upon reaching maturity, but it'll grow into one of the mellowest, funnest, lovingist companions you could ever imagine.

And the average Yellow Tabby is an ABOVE average cat, in terms of intelligence, affection for humans, and especially, being very "into" their owner/alpha.

My late, beloved Harley would sit on command, meet me at the door while wagging his Golden Retriever grade tail, and wanting to get some dogly face-licks in, in the bargain.

And besides. A fifteen to twenty pound yellow male tabby is also one bad ass mo-fo of a cat.

They're imposing, impressive, imperial and imperious. That's on their BAD days. Which tend to be few.

Good days are lap fulla yella mushball of purring love. Small tiger following you room to room, just to see what'cha up to. Hopping on the bathroom counter when you shave, looking to drink from the faucet.

While dogs DO love you unconditionally, cats have conditions, standards and expectations.

Living up to them, makes one a better person.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 10:52 PM (QzJWU)

314 I heard beer was good for not getting kidney stones.

Posted by: navybrat at January 20, 2018 10:52 PM (7NKxb)

315 Re. the "to coin a phrase" thing in the sidebar, I think it's because people began using it sarcastically for shopworn phrases and idiots began to think that it meant the opposite of its true meaning. Also maybe from "neologism" becoming a popular word to describe new words or phrases especially tied into computer/social media/I.T.-related items being used instead of the old "to coin a phrase" usage.

It bugs me too like the 1980's (IIRC) superseding of "I couldn't care less" that was in common usage in the NE and here before then being overtaken by "I could care less" that I think is a West Coast usage. I associate it with Valley Girl speak coming onto the scene then although that might not be its original source.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 10:52 PM (ewxPW)

316 That Trump is like a tattoo, he kinda gets under their skin.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 20, 2018 10:53 PM (fUJvh)

317 Lot of one acre islands already with a house in some of the Great Lakes under 500k.

Oh. I thought you meant somewhere not in the effluvium plume of a shithole.

Still, even that would have some attractions. The toxic sludge might produce half fish half banger half rutabaga mutations that would wash up on the beach, barking and sharting meth rocks like Hitlery on a Saturday night.

If only I could get my Work at Home Asshole business going...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:53 PM (e2ieZ)

318 Screw you!!!

Posted by: zombie bertha krupp at January 20, 2018 10:53 PM (ewxPW)

319 I heard beer was good for not getting kidney stones.


An wheed is totaly good for not getting lung cancer...stones...


an shit.

Posted by: single issue voter at January 20, 2018 10:54 PM (Aj/1C)

320 I heard beer was good for not getting kidney stones.

Posted by: navybrat at January 20, 2018 10:52 PM (7NKxb)

I heard that too. At the first beer I was rather skeptical; by the tenth or so it made perfect sense.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 20, 2018 10:55 PM (zCyNd)

321 First kidney stone, the doc sent me home and told me to drink a six pack one after the other. It did get rid of the stone. The one I just alluded to was 7 mm in size...too big to get rid of the old fashioned way.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 10:58 PM (R5lpX)

322 I had an old NCO talk us out of getting our ID numbers tattoo'd on our inner biceps; and by talk, I mean he threw us out of the place.

Posted by: Jean at January 20, 2018 10:58 PM (yM/Yl)

323 And a new JPG meme about the Women's March is born...
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yd87rhvw

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 10:59 PM (ewxPW)

324 I have had two kidney stones in my life; finally passed both but the pain was legendary and it lasted way too long.

after the second I did some reading and swore never to drink anything with HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) in it again. (Most soft drinks, and I can do without soft drinks easy) I gave that up 15 years go, no other big change in my diet, and I have never had a kidney stone since.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 11:00 PM (V2Yro)

325 Has anyone ever seen a headline "Florida Man develops kidney stone"?

No? QED.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, first doing no harm at January 20, 2018 11:01 PM (zCyNd)

326 Do you yell and scream when he Yanks it out... you're damn straight.
Posted by: Traveling Man

and cry ....

Posted by: Jean at January 20, 2018 11:01 PM (yM/Yl)

327 Do you yell and scream when he Yanks it out... you're damn straight.
Posted by: Traveling Man

and cry ....

Posted by: Jean at January 20, 2018 11:01 PM (yM/Yl)

No more yanky my wanky!

Posted by: Long Duc Dong at January 20, 2018 11:03 PM (zCyNd)

328

Best nephrolithiasis prevention strategy is to bang a 27 year old ginger daily, and twice on Sundays. Follow this plan with diligence and fervor and you'll be fine for life.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:03 PM (e2ieZ)

329 325 Has anyone ever seen a headline "Florida Man develops kidney stone"?

No? QED.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, first doing no harm at January 20, 2018 11:01 PM (zCyNd)

Beer, meth, and alligator meat. Keeps the kidneys clear.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

330 Beer, meth, and alligator meat. Keeps the kidneys clear.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

Lawyer lady says i should stop trying to explain that to the judge.

Posted by: Florida Man, in his usual cell at County at January 20, 2018 11:06 PM (zCyNd)

331 Sorry I missed the movie thread. I was taking a knee to protest white supremacy.

Okay, I was taking a knee to protest pretty much all tribal supremacy.

Okay okay, I was at Mass. Did I miss much? Is the new Cage movie good?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 20, 2018 11:07 PM (6FqZa)

332 If only I could get my Work at Home Asshole business going...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 10:53 PM (e2ieZ)

Use my powerful pen and phone system!!

Posted by: Barry, staying out of Val's way at January 20, 2018 11:09 PM (zCyNd)

333 Is Pixy on strike again or is it everyone else has a life?

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:09 PM (R5lpX)

334 Jim, I'm glad you got an orange tabby.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:10 PM (2K6fY)

335 333 Is Pixy on strike again or is it everyone else has a life?
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:09 PM (R5lpX)

Not everyone else. I haven't had anything resembling a life in years.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

336 Oh man, Donald Trump's troll fu is amazing. Must... resist... calling... him... God Emperor...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 20, 2018 11:11 PM (6FqZa)

337

I wish I had an orange tabby, or any sort of kitteh. I miss them so much.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:11 PM (e2ieZ)

338 I wish I had an orange tabby, or any sort of kitteh. I miss them so much.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January




why don' you go get one?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:12 PM (MTjB1)

339 Vino, what state are you in, I may be able to hook you up

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:12 PM (2K6fY)

340 CNN: GOV'T SHUTDOWN RISKS AN UNDETECTED ASTEROID STRIKE

... that's fine with me

Posted by: SMOD at January 20, 2018 11:14 PM (e8kgV)

341 Pixy is a Federal employee?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 11:14 PM (eMKNe)

342 Have to confess. Leave 2/1 for a trip that will give me views like those above. Husband and I heading to a French Polynesia. Not our normal trip. Usually travel to a Europe. Tell people we're going for the sun, the surf and lack of jihadis.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 20, 2018 11:15 PM (N3JsI)

343 There is seemingly no off position on the stupid switch either.

CNN: Gov't Shutdown Risks an Undetected Asteroid Strike

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 20, 2018 11:16 PM (LV3VM)

344 My daughter had a trade show in San Francisco today. Said it took over an hour to go one sixth of a mile because of the pussy hat March. She's on the phone with my better half right now. She is pissed. It was all immigrant crap, gay pride and anti Trump BS.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:17 PM (R5lpX)

345 >> strategy is to bang a 27 year old ginger daily

That's a fine strategy, I must say.

But my own wishful strategerizing would involve Czech girls.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:18 PM (8O3HH)

346 313 Jim -- I had one of those big yellow cats. Every time I took him out of his carrier at the vet's, everyone involved would ooh and aah and say that he was the tallest cat any of them had ever seen. I always said I had him fixed at least a month too early because he was so mellow, he was damn near comatose. My next door neighbor claimed to hate cats, but every morning Boo banged on her front door, she would let him in, he would inspect her whole apartment, then he'd go to the door to be let out again. Any time anyone parked on our block and left the window open, he'd hop in for a nap. I'm surprised nobody called the cops on me for trying to steal their vehicle. In the summer, I'd drive about a block, then have to stop to let him out because I hadn't noticed him sleeping in the back. One time, I had to rescue him from a load of trash just about to be hauled off to the dump. He loved snow and would stretch his front legs out and play snow plow. Unfortunately, he did the same thing to a row of chrysanthemums I planted one spring. Sad to say, I had to put him down when he was only eight because of renal failure. He was a real character.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with a Deplorable Basket of Deplorable Cats at January 20, 2018 11:18 PM (GWRlV)

347 Process to #ReleaseTheMemo has begun and should be completed in 19 Congressional working days according to a tweet from Rep. Dave Joyce.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:19 PM (ewxPW)

348 Jim, I'm glad you got an orange tabby.


Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:10 PM (2K6fY)



Had, sadly, being the operative term.

Harley passed away in my arms in December of 2009. He's buried outside of my home-office window. He just almost made 14 years old.

Best. Cat. Ever.

The breed tends towards the characteristics, as described, too.

Given Infidel's wish for a mellow companion, I threw my $0.02 worth of opinion & recommendation onto the table.

I love the pair o' cats that now grace this hacienda. But they're not in the Yellow Tabby category of companion.

Love 'em all the same, differences and all.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 11:19 PM (QzJWU)

349 I know a mult-tatooed former Aryan nations guy who had a tat removed from his forehead. I think it cost $1,000 and hurt like crazy

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:19 PM (nBr1j)

350 >> Must... resist... calling... him... God Emperor...

Fenelon doesn't like that at all. She's good people, mind you.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:20 PM (8O3HH)

351 Tattoos: Nope. Maybe the American flag or the Declaration of Independence on my back, but generally nope. It's one of my dealbreakers when meeting women. Piercings, too.

Weed: Used to smoke it pretty much every day, sort of grew out of it. Now it's legal in my state and people give it to me all the time. My lungs are definitely over 29 so it's a really rare occurrence for me now. I've tried some edibles but I don't really feel the high. Tincture is nice but expensive. I've been meaning to go to a shop to try something new. TLDR, I'm an advocate.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:20 PM (kUotE)

352 CNN: GOV'T SHUTDOWN RISKS AN UNDETECTED ASTEROID STRIKE


How is CNN even open for business? Did they lay in a supply of government approved electrons last week?

Posted by: Miklos from arch support at January 20, 2018 11:20 PM (zCyNd)

353 Sorry I missed the movie thread. I was taking a knee to protest white supremacy.

Okay, I was taking a knee to protest pretty much all tribal supremacy.

---------

I'm down with the cause, man.

*fistbump*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:20 PM (/SISC)

354

If the windows to the hotel opened I could 'water' the bums on the sidewalk. Maybe it would be like Miracle Grow, except for bums. The could gain health and attractiveness.

Miracle-Bum.

For longer effect, Miracle-Bum stakes. I admit, pounding them in would be a challenge, but then they are all set for another season of growth, development, and depending on the variety, bearing lovely ornamental fruits.

Also helps with that pesky 'Lesbian Lost Tampon' smell, although that odor can attract Durian Sodomizers, so you may need to scatter black pepper and toe-poppers around your ornamental fruits.

Pro tip: Ornament fruits do best when dressed up as jockeys and placed on lawns.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:20 PM (e2ieZ)

355 Oh, and for a stress-relief pet, get a cat. A female.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:21 PM (kUotE)

356 I understand Maine Coon cats are also very doglike too. Anyone know if that's true?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (ewxPW)

357 Where would I find a giant yellow tabby?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (nBr1j)

358 A few years ago I met an old guy who had a tat on his arm that had become all smeared so you couldn't see it very well. I asked him if it was a Marine tat, and he said, no, it was a Hell's Angel's tat. I kind of did a double take and he explained that he had been an undercover cop and it was part of his cover. Hmm, OK.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:24 PM (md3fh)

359 Don Lemon's black-hole will save us from any SMOD events!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:24 PM (ewxPW)

360 I like cats and think they make fine pets. But I'm allergic.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:24 PM (nBr1j)

361 339 Vino, what state are you in, I may be able to hook you up
Posted by: Kindltot

I'd gladly come, thank you.

Life circumstances have not allowed for several years. I wonder if they ever will again.

I miss each and every one of them. And the doggehs. And the assorted weirdness - raised a raccoon one time, lord she was so sweet and funny.

Why can't I get paid to stay home and interact with various critters? F'ing Universe...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:24 PM (e2ieZ)

362 Also helps with that pesky 'Lesbian Lost Tampon' smell, although that odor can attract Durian Sodomizers, so you may need to scatter black pepper and toe-poppers around your ornamental fruits.

It also compares to the smell of advanced dick Durbin.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:26 PM (nBr1j)

363 Oh, and for a stress-relief pet, get a cat. A female.
Posted by: Johnny at January




yeah, like taking a coke addicted chineseripper for your mistress will every other worry you ever had, including the mobsters you stole $1mm from and are holding your mom hostage, seem like nothing.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (MTjB1)

364 Maine Coons need lots of attention. They're awesome, and dog-like, but they will NOT let you have a day off.

My last two have been Russian Blues. They are very sweet and sensitive. They don't like a lot of activity, or strangers, but they are very affectionate and will light up your life.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (kUotE)

365
Jim SND,
How are you doing with the water situation in Galveston? Has it been fixed?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (JDR7K)

366 I once read about a guy who came down with dick durbin.

Horrific.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (/SISC)

367 yeah, like taking a coke addicted chineseripper for your mistress will every other worry you ever had, including the mobsters you stole $1mm from and are holding your mom hostage, seem like nothing.

That sounds GREAT!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (e2ieZ)

368 I understand Maine Coon cats are also very doglike too. Anyone know if that's true?


Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (ewxPW)

357 Where would I find a giant yellow tabby?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (nBr1j)



1. Yes, they tend to be. But, long hair Maine Coon / American Shorthair type Yellow Tabby.

They both shed, but the long hair is more difficult to help the cat maintain, w/ brushing & a couple baths a year.

2. Several ways. First, is to have a sit down with your local no-kill shelter, let them know what you're looking for, and be first on the list of people they call when one of those kittens arrives at their facility. Which, is *often*.

Second, as your veterinarian as to a REPUTABLE breeder or show cat person, who can get you introduced to the better breeders in your area.

An extension of "Second", would be to attend a local Cat Show, find the big yellow tabby entrants, and begin some conversations.

Avoid Craigslist. Too many puppy n' kitten mills there. And they LIE about it.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 11:29 PM (QzJWU)

369 That sounds GREAT!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January



so, how is everything with your mom?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:29 PM (MTjB1)

370 Where would I find a giant yellow tabby?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (nBr1j)
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at the local shelter/pound, of course.

as the bumper sticker says "who rescued who?"

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2018 11:30 PM (IuPpm)

371 I was wondering if maybe the Dems didn't really mean to vote to close down the government. Several of the R's voted for it, and several D's voted against, perhaps in an attempt to keep it from happening. If the R's were smart, which is always in question, they would probably be more than happy to see the government close down so the Dummycrats could be shown for what they are. Could be a coordinated trap snapping shut in their smug little faces, if they were trying to get in PDJT's face without actually going all the way. IOW, just the tip but ... oooops!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:31 PM (md3fh)

372 once read about a guy who came down with dick durbin.

Horrific.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (/SISC)

Unfortunately, that is a terminal condition with no known cure.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:31 PM (R5lpX)

373 For Cowboy Bebop fans:

http://tinyurl.com/y8xyzlz5

From a while back.

Posted by: geoffb at January 20, 2018 11:31 PM (zOpu5)

374 The big question that has yet to be addressed is will my mailbox go barren and starve to death without the USPS providing an endless supply of local advertisements for eateries, lawyers, and nail salons.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 20, 2018 11:31 PM (AJeMv)

375 I understand Maine Coon cats are also very doglike too. Anyone know if that's true?
Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (ewxPW)


Maine Coons are large, and have very serious attitudes and loads of dignity. They are also quite loveable and very very smart.

They tend to be very vocal, and a friend claims his was nearly verbal.
I would not call them dog-like since that desire to please is never there. But they are very self contained and they appear to have "swagger" genetically encoded.

I found out that for me Coon cats don't trigger my cat allergies. Some cats do, and others don't.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:32 PM (2K6fY)

376 I once read about a guy who came down with dick durbin.

Horrific.


Had to amputate, eh? Figures.

Congress, pay attention. Don't let yourselves become a victim of Dick Durbin. Don't let that happen to you.

Help is available.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 11:32 PM (tRaq7)

377 Happy $22 Billion Day!!!

That's how much the government spends on an average day.....but it's shut down!!!

Posted by: doug at January 20, 2018 11:33 PM (89il5)

378 BTW, five Dems voted for it and four RINOs against it was the final count.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:34 PM (ewxPW)

379 I understand the Post Office will continue to deliver mail. Not that it matters much anymore. I have everything on autopay, but a couple of them insist on sending me an invoice by mail every month. I asked them if they could refrain, and the answer was that they had to do it. Guess they're stuck in the last century or something.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:34 PM (md3fh)

380 you know, as much as I like to kick the usps around, because the deserve to be kicked around, I have to confess my mailman is the shit, well as mailmen go. he knows everything mail related. he memorized my name and face after he saw me go to my mail box once. my name and face have never even been on a post office wall.

really nice guy.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:34 PM (MTjB1)

381 I need to borrow a time machine to read a history book 200 years from
now, and see what they say about Trump. How do they dissect and study
his presidency from a purely poli-sci stance.
----------------------------------

I can give you a preview. "President Trump is the reason you are reading this history book today, and not in a camp or field somewhere waiting to be shot and thrown in a ditch. The death of the Leftist Uniparty was both sudden and final."

Posted by: Mega at January 20, 2018 11:35 PM (rv0Fo)

382 BTW, five Dems voted for it and four RINOs against it was the final count.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:34 PM (ewxPW)

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I'd like to place four orders for tar and feathers, please.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:35 PM (/SISC)

383 The USPS isn't federally funded so they still have to work.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:35 PM (R5lpX)

384 never get a pet that needs grooming. they do not like it and you do not want to be responsible for it.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:36 PM (MTjB1)

385 We're there any guys breast feeding each other at the pusssy march?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 20, 2018 11:36 PM (4CCz5)

386 Jim SND,
How are you doing with the water situation in Galveston? Has it been fixed?


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2018 11:28 PM (JDR7K)



Zero damage here, and the Island's problems with busted water mains has had no adverse effect in my neighborhood. So, all is well.

The worst of the damage seems to have happened out on the West End. There was some, everywhere, but not as bad as the areas West of the seawall.

Thanks for checkin' in on that, amigo!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2018 11:36 PM (QzJWU)

387 you know, as much as I like to kick the usps around, because the deserve to be kicked around, I have to confess my mailman is the shit, well as mailmen go. he knows everything mail related. he memorized my name and face after he saw me go to my mail box once. my name and face have never even been on a post office wall.

One of ours drives those little four-banger mail trucks like Mario Andretti at Indy. Don't see him often as a result.

Zoom, zoom.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (tRaq7)

388 you know if I could switch a gene with a dog I would get their hair gene. having a black, brown, and brindle mop, like a beagle, which never needed cutting would be cool.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (MTjB1)

389 I don't know Bob, but daughter said she saw several males wearing the pussy hats.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (R5lpX)

390 My late cat used to love to be groomed. She would jump up on the arm of my easy chair to be combed, and after a while she would turn over so I could do the other side, then on her back for her tummy's turn. I miss her.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (md3fh)

391 Northernlurker: My kids dragged my big yellow cat home when he was about four or five months old. Nobody ever came looking for him and he never went away, so I figured he was ours.

The gods of little cats are usually pretty quick about spotting a vacancy. If you're serious, a cat will show up. Just wait for it. On occasions, the gods of little cats will also send one on spec. I've never turned any of those away.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with a Deplorable Basket of Deplorable Cats at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (GWRlV)

392 Why can't I get paid to stay home and interact with various critters? F'ing Universe...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:24 PM (e2ieZ)



'Could be worse, I am thinking of posting "You pass the butter" on my cubical to see how long it is before I get told to take it down.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:37 PM (2K6fY)

393 I'm not actually after a pet currently, Kindltot, but that's interesting that Coons didn't affect your allergies as I have enviro allergies too. If I ever got a dog it would have to by one of the hypoallergenic ones, like poodles, but it's good to know that an M.C. might be okay too. (And if you let the poodle's coat grow naturally and get a short cut, they don't look faggy IMHO.)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:38 PM (ewxPW)

394 Maine Coons really are awesome. I agree with everything kindletot said.

But they're really high maintenance. They need LOTS of attention and they're almost always outdoor cats. Expect them do disappear for days at a time, and expect lots of 'gifts'.

I've watched our last Maine Coon, Thomas Jefferson take birds out of mid-flight.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:38 PM (kUotE)

395 ... to be one...

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:40 PM (ewxPW)

396 so, is there some age at which you start sleeping ugly?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:40 PM (MTjB1)

397

Dammit all to Hell. Went and checked out the rescue shelter page. Opened wounds.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2018 11:41 PM (e2ieZ)

398 389 I don't know Bob, but daughter said she saw several males wearing the pussy hats.


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"Males." Not men.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:41 PM (/SISC)

399 so, who as familiarity with modern Walther's? How would you score them relative to a sig?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:42 PM (MTjB1)

400 "Males." Not men.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January




well, people that identify as male.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 20, 2018 11:43 PM (MTjB1)

401 Wonder if Bob at NSA is off duty for the duration? Maybe now is the time for us to start laying serious plans for the insurrection, eh? Probably not ... I bet Bob will pipe up any minute with a clever rejoinder.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:43 PM (md3fh)

402
I found out that for me Coon cats don't trigger my cat allergies. Some cats do, and others don't.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:32 PM (2K6fY)

We have a male and female. They are large and chatty and I (a lunatic) talk to them like humans. The male cuddles with my wife at night and the female curls up on my chest and sends me to sleep every night.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 20, 2018 11:43 PM (4CCz5)

403 Males

That's what I said.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:43 PM (R5lpX)

404 You could call them MINOs, males in name only.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:44 PM (md3fh)

405 I don't even recall who was asking about a pet or how this all started, but read about Russian Blues. They're awesome.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:44 PM (kUotE)

406 My daughter called them a bunch of fruitcakes.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:45 PM (R5lpX)

407 Are Russian Blues anything like Norwegian Blues? Are they late?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:45 PM (md3fh)

408 Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:43 PM (md3fh)

The "NSA" is funded by the Rothschild branch of the Masons, through the Templar connections at the Vatican bank.

Bob is watching.

Posted by: Miklos knows at January 20, 2018 11:45 PM (zCyNd)

409 Males

That's what I said.

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"Pajama boys" might be more appropriate, but I suppose that biologically, they are males.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:46 PM (/SISC)

410 And there it is.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:46 PM (md3fh)

411
The grey aliens have something to do with it too, Miklos. You need to listen to George Noory more.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:46 PM (8O3HH)

412 I believe her exact words were...a bunch of fruitcake males wearing pussy hats.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:46 PM (R5lpX)

413 Rene Boucher, the 58-year-old Bowling
Green man accused of attacking U.S. Sen. Rand Paul at his home in
November, has been charged with assaulting a member of congress
resulting in personal injury.The charges - a federal felony - were announced Friday by Josh J. Minkler,U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Indiana.
http://tinyurl.com/yatphwxm

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2018 11:47 PM (oVJmc)

414
I don't get these so-called pussy hats. They don't look anything like that.

Is there some connection there I'm missing.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:47 PM (8O3HH)

415 Are Russian Blues anything like Norwegian Blues? Are they late?
Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:45 PM (md3fh)


Norwegian blues, yes? You ask about Norwegian blues?

https://youtu.be/nyge-ThKPrs

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2018 11:47 PM (2K6fY)

416 As a joke someone gave me a pink cap that had a little target and the words "I Shoot Like A Girl." I wore it a few times and when someone would comment I would say, "Yeah, she wasn't a bad shot. Her name was Annie, Annie Oakley."

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:48 PM (md3fh)

417 MINOs
Pronounced "minnows".

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:49 PM (ewxPW)

418 The grey aliens have something to do with it too, Miklos. You need to listen to George Noory more.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:46 PM (8O3HH)

I'm listening to an old Art Bell show at the moment.

Some guy from PR saying he analyzed alien blood samples.

Will update if they are brave enough to tell us the truth.

Posted by: Miklos isn't saying it's aliens, but.. at January 20, 2018 11:49 PM (zCyNd)

419 407 No but it's my understanding that they colluded with the Trump campaign.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:50 PM (kUotE)

420 There's something fishy about those guys with the pussy hats....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:50 PM (md3fh)

421 I'd like to place four orders for tar and feathers, please.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:35 PM (/SISC)

Correction, three open borders RINOS and Rand Paul voted against the CR. I can't complain though as I wanted the CR to fail. We need a good shutdown and the CR was crap to begin with.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 20, 2018 11:51 PM (FTXAT)

422 don't get these so-called pussy hats. They don't look anything like that.

Is there some connection there I'm missing.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:47 PM (8O3HH)

Evidently they are supposed to emulate a woman's nether regions, but there's only so much you can do with a ball of pink yarn and a knitting needle.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 11:52 PM (R5lpX)

423 402 I (a lunatic) talk to them like humans.

They understand. More than people realize.

Posted by: Johnny at January 20, 2018 11:53 PM (kUotE)

424 There's something fishy about those guys with the pussy hats....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:50 PM (md3fh)

Those guys are engaging in unacceptable gender stereotyping and misogeny unless they knitted the pussy hats themselves.

Posted by: Miklos isn't saying it's aliens, but.. at January 20, 2018 11:53 PM (zCyNd)

425 My point was that maybe, just maybe those R's voted for shutdown to stick it to the D's. Ninth dimension chess and all that. This surely is not going to be good for the D's. The commercials are already being written, and when he goes on the campaign trail later this year to support overthrowing various Demonrats, Trump will have a full quiver.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:53 PM (md3fh)

426 420: they're probably looking to get laid, and as an 'ette I respect that

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 11:55 PM (5gaNQ)

427 Yeah, if I wanted to get laid the first thing I would do is put on a pink pussy hat. Sure.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:55 PM (md3fh)

428 George Noory is no Art Bell, by a long shot.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:56 PM (8O3HH)

429 >> Yeah, if I wanted to get laid the first thing I would do is put on a pink pussy hat. Sure

Everyone knows you put on a dick hat for that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:56 PM (8O3HH)

430 Yeah, if I wanted to get laid the first thing I would do is put on a pink pussy hat. Sure.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:55 PM (md3fh)

--------

It's like going to a club in a sort skirt and a push-up bra.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:56 PM (/SISC)

431 George Noory is no Art Bell, by a long shot.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:56 PM (8O3HH)

They got to him. Either that or a SuperBeet overdose.

Posted by: Miklos is saying it's aliens, but.. at January 20, 2018 11:57 PM (zCyNd)

432 356
I understand Maine Coon cats are also very doglike too. Anyone know if that's true?


Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 11:22 PM (ewxPW)

Yes. We had a Maine Coon (Whitey), I think. It was pure white, was larger than typical, and had the large tufts of hair in the paws and ears. It was very vocal, chirping all the time, and would come to greet visitors like a dog.
In fact, it looked exactly like the "Fuck that in particular" cat.
Whitey crossed the Rainbow Bridge a year ago last October, He was about 12 years old. I still miss him. He will appear on the Pet Thread one of these weeks.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 11:57 PM (8iiMU)

433 429 >> Yeah, if I wanted to get laid the first thing I would do is put on a pink pussy hat. Sure

Everyone knows you put on a dick hat for that.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 11:56 PM (8O3HH)

I guess it would depend on who you wanted to get laid with.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2018 11:58 PM (ycWCI)

434 so, is there some age at which you start sleeping ugly?

Sleeping ugly, waking ugly, talking ugly... in my case... um... birth?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 20, 2018 11:58 PM (6FqZa)

435 Art Bell > George Noory > Seymour

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:58 PM (/SISC)

436 427: I share your cause, I respect women ....it works with these lib chix

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2018 11:58 PM (5gaNQ)

437 I've figured out that I must be bisexual. If I want to get laid I have to buy it.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 20, 2018 11:59 PM (md3fh)

438 Get yourself ready for another election night of tears and sky-screaming from the opposition. Trump isn't out of first gear yet.

Posted by: Mega at January 20, 2018 11:59 PM (rv0Fo)

439 432 Looking forward to seeing Whitey.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:00 AM (kUotE)

440 Art Bell > George Noory > Seymour

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 11:58 PM (/SISC)


?????

Posted by: Seymour Heinie at January 21, 2018 12:00 AM (zCyNd)

441 Trump has spent his first year preparing the battlefield. This year will be ver-r-r-ry interesting methinks.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:00 AM (md3fh)

442
We all know how well dic pics work, so I figured a dick hat would be a sure fire chick magnet.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 12:01 AM (8O3HH)

443 You wear a hat on your dick? Do you have to take it off to pee? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:01 AM (md3fh)

444 Maine Coons don't have a very long lifespan. Brighter lights burn out faster. My male Russian Blue, Chamberlain, died a few months ago at 19 years of age.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:02 AM (kUotE)

445 You wear a hat on your dick? Do you have to take it off to pee? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:01 AM (md3fh)

Well, it's more like a full length beret....

Posted by: Frenchie Molnar at January 21, 2018 12:03 AM (zCyNd)

446 #catthread

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:03 AM (kUotE)

447 Ah, so wee wee ma sewer.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:04 AM (md3fh)

448 >> You wear a hat on your dick? Do you have to take it off to pee? Asking for a friend.

Heh. It's a little top hat. Also serves as a much needed extension.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 12:04 AM (8O3HH)

449 It was a natural transition from pussy hats to pussy cats. Just one letter difference.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:05 AM (md3fh)

450 catthread

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:03 AM (kUotE)

Yes, some cats can read, but not with a lisp.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar DVM from the DMV at January 21, 2018 12:06 AM (zCyNd)

451 Speaking of bowling, I shot a 723 series tonight. (231, 224,268 ) I was one open frame away from a clean 30. Chopped a 4-7 spare in the second game. This is the first 700 series I've bowled in a couple of years, and it felt freaking great!

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 12:06 AM (gEvQ8)

452 434 so, is there some age at which you start sleeping ugly?

Much like riding dirty...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 21, 2018 12:06 AM (e2ieZ)

453 #puthythread

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:07 AM (kUotE)

454

It was a natural transition from pussy hats to pussy cats. Just one letter difference.
Posted by: Ruthless


https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=371863

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 12:07 AM (IqV8l)

455 So now it's bowling. Do you wear a bowler on your dick? Would be very British of you.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:07 AM (md3fh)

456 You Americans need to ease up on those crack pipes. I only refresh about every 5 minutes and I keep getting "service unavailable"

Go to the qwik-e-mart and get a large gulp and take a break.

sheesh

Posted by: Sanjay from tech support at January 21, 2018 12:08 AM (Fikbq)

457 Sanjay Gupta?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 12:09 AM (IqV8l)

458 You Americans need to ease up on those crack pipes. I only refresh about every 5 minutes and I keep getting "service unavailable"

Go to the qwik-e-mart and get a large gulp and take a break.

sheesh

Posted by: Sanjay from tech support at January 21, 2018 12:08 AM (Fikbq)

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Debbie Downer-Schultz at January 21, 2018 12:10 AM (zCyNd)

459 Good job Blue.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 12:10 AM (R5lpX)

460
I think I'll get a deer stalker for my dick.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 12:11 AM (8O3HH)

461 Yeah, Old Blue, those are pretty amazing scores. I played golf once with Kim Jong Un and I only got sixteen holes in one, so he beat me.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:12 AM (md3fh)

462 They told me my work was essential and they even gave me a box of Fiber Bars, too!

Posted by: EPA employee who poops in the Denver office hallway at January 21, 2018 12:13 AM (xxG/v)

463 Deerstalkers are so 18th century. With bills on both front and back they make it hard to tell if someone is coming or going. Kind of like the guy who died while having sex.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:13 AM (md3fh)

464 they make it hard to tell if someone is coming or going. Kind of like the guy who died while having sex.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:13 AM (md3fh)

Yeah.

Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at January 21, 2018 12:14 AM (zCyNd)

465 About a week after Chamberlain died, I met an older cat on my daily walk. He is completely white, but not albino. He comes out to see me almost every day. I've named him Chamberlain the White.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:15 AM (kUotE)

466 https://youtu.be/9LYVnZtvSgY

Went ahead and jumped the shark.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Frankencougie at January 21, 2018 12:15 AM (q9n5w)

467 Open the Memogate!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:18 AM (md3fh)

468

The memo says:

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2018 12:20 AM (IqV8l)

469 so us there any overlap between pussy hats and prison pussy?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 12:21 AM (MTjB1)

470 You can't wear hats in prison. And cats are not allowed there, either. So, no overlap.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:23 AM (md3fh)

471 TRUMP = FAT ASS LOSER !!!!!

We wants Presdent Obama back !!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 21, 2018 12:24 AM (hqQ+Q)

472

What smells worse, a middle aged lesbians forgotten tampon, impacted into the inferior cervical space by a dog femur dildo lubed with jackal smegma butter accidentally dropped into a Thai 'nuc' fish sauce vat in 27 years of > 100 degree daily temps where the Yakuza disposes of macerated remains, or Hiltery's belly button?

Hard to guess, isn't it?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 21, 2018 12:24 AM (e2ieZ)

473 Yay! The Real Mary is back. You can tell that faker that's been coming around and spelling all her words correctly wasn't her. This is the Mary we have grown to know and love.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:25 AM (md3fh)

474 Nyah!

Sorry to have missed the animation movie thread.

Voter Mom, Mary and the Witch's Flower is by Studio Ponco and not Studio Ghibli. But it was very much inspired by Studio Ghibli.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:26 AM (2+EWn)

475 wasn't she?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:26 AM (md3fh)

476 What smells worse, a middle aged lesbians forgotten
tampon, impacted into the inferior cervical space by a dog femur dildo
lubed with jackal smegma butter accidentally dropped into a Thai 'nuc'
fish sauce vat in 27 years of > 100 degree daily temps where the
Yakuza disposes of macerated remains, or Hiltery's belly button?



Hard to guess, isn't it?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 21, 2018 12:24 AM (e2ieZ)

Both are too gross to contemplate.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 21, 2018 12:26 AM (FTXAT)

477 470 I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that most prisons are home to hundreds or thousands of cats.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:27 AM (kUotE)

478 Both are too gross to contemplate.

Ohh, I don't know...

Posted by: ValJar at January 21, 2018 12:27 AM (e2ieZ)

479 Ewwww!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:27 AM (md3fh)

480 Good news from the town council of rashakhemailalidalihamalamadingbai!

We have demoted Khali from Goddes to mere wannabe!

We replaced her with Haley the Niki.

All Hail the New Goddess Niki! The destroyer of worlds!

*swwon*

Posted by: Sanjay from tech support at January 21, 2018 12:29 AM (Fikbq)

481 Whatcha in for?
Just a minor feliney.
You mean a felony.
No, feliney. I mugged a cat.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:29 AM (md3fh)

482 481 Did you plead meow contest?

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:31 AM (kUotE)

483 It was a purrfect setup.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:32 AM (md3fh)

484 "What smells worse, a middle aged lesbians forgotten
tampon, impacted into the inferior cervical space by a dog femur dildo
lubed with jackal smegma butter accidentally dropped into a Thai 'nuc'
fish sauce vat in 27 years of > 100 degree daily temps where the
Yakuza disposes of macerated remains, or Hiltery's belly button? "

I need help translating this into Hindi. Please to be thanking you!

Posted by: Sanjay from tech support at January 21, 2018 12:32 AM (Fikbq)

485 An an alleged felonious neko-grrl, some of these jokes are going right for the catnip. Nyah!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:32 AM (2+EWn)

486 Why don't you put on your pink hat and go back to Delhi, Sanjay? You'll be much happier there. It's a shithole, just the kind of place you like.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:34 AM (md3fh)

487 >> neko-grrl

I had no idea what a "neko girl" was. When I first saw that a while back, i interpreted "neko" as "naked" or nekkid.

But now, you just meant you're a cat-girl.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 21, 2018 12:34 AM (8O3HH)

488 No, feliney. I mugged a cat.

And lived? Damn... you da mf'in badass...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Tripod at January 21, 2018 12:34 AM (e2ieZ)

489 Hopefully it'll turn out to be a pawsitive experience

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:36 AM (kUotE)

490 She was an undercover cat.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:36 AM (md3fh)

491

Binged 'Neko-Girl'.

Oh. My.

* ruined for human women forevermore *

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Tripod at January 21, 2018 12:36 AM (e2ieZ)

492 Or a total catastrophe.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:38 AM (kUotE)

493 Wonderful world

Posted by: Island Girl at January 21, 2018 12:38 AM (FJrl0)

494 You know, getting a smile from B'Gal even after all the years and all the health challenges we've had to face is still one of life's best simple pleasures.

She's still such a cutie-pie...I'm a really lucky fellow.

Thanks, God.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 21, 2018 12:38 AM (tRaq7)

495 I wasn't feline very happy when she slapped the cuffs on me.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:38 AM (md3fh)

496 494 Amen. Very wise.

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:41 AM (kUotE)

497 Oh damn. Why did I turn the radio on too soon.

Damn you Art....

Come back......!!

Posted by: Exile at January 21, 2018 12:42 AM (Fikbq)

498 I was in prison once but they kicked meowt

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:44 AM (kUotE)

499 Well y'all, it's been real and it's been nice, but it ain't been real nice. See y'all on the morrow.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 21, 2018 12:45 AM (R5lpX)

500 I said, you've got to be kitten me!

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:45 AM (kUotE)

501 We're getting some global warming here tonight and all tomorrow.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 12:46 AM (6FqZa)

502 Prison food was always the same: Purina Cat Chow. Made me scarf up a furball every day.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:46 AM (md3fh)

503 OK. It's Bedtime for Bonzo.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 21, 2018 12:47 AM (tRaq7)

504 *clears throat*

Uni and I are Shirow-sama's idea of what androis neko-grrls are. We are very exuberant. A bit too much as it may.

"And what the Tank Police own, we own!"

Police Chief, "But that's not even been accepted yet!"

"Ne Buaku, is it all right?"

Buaku nods.

"Yes!" Massive cannon barrel moves and fun time as crosshairs locks on Red Commando helicopter.

*Boom!*

And scratch one Red Commando and a priceless painting titled "Innocence."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:47 AM (2+EWn)

505 So that big screw just showed up. It's not as much fun as it sounds -- he's just here to take me back to my cell. Good night all.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:50 AM (md3fh)

506 Hi all. We are binge watching Newsroom while it's still free on HBO.

Disgusting lefty bias, but a cool look back at 2012. Does show the media to be the biased shits they are.

Be well all you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at January 21, 2018 12:50 AM (yJ1e6)

507 Oh speaking of 'priceless' art... for a mere $1,500 one can purchase this cel of me shooting up the Newport City SWAT from the first OVA of Dominion Tank Police. Nyah!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6v9j5v2

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:52 AM (2+EWn)

508 Is Ruthless really in jail?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 12:52 AM (6FqZa)

509 *hollers back as guards drag him away*
"It's a setup Ima tellin' you. I didn't grab that pussy..."

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:54 AM (md3fh)

510 They had no probable claws!

...Okay, I'll stop. Goodnight, Horde!

Posted by: Johnny at January 21, 2018 12:56 AM (kUotE)

511 Heh. Breaking Away just started on the Movie Channel. Unfortunately I will konk out shortly.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 21, 2018 12:57 AM (2DOZq)

512 Yeah I'm going to scratch my way out of this ONT and get some sleep. Nite all.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 21, 2018 12:57 AM (md3fh)

513 i'm back to watching Lodoss. Parn and Deedlit are such a cute couple.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 12:58 AM (6FqZa)

514 It's our duty, to please that Democrat booty.

Shut your moufs.

Posted by: Tepublicans, with the Shaft at January 21, 2018 01:00 AM (0ogQG)

515 Y'All can tease about my bowling. You're the Horde and I love you all a lot. I'm just happy that I had such a great night. Tease away! I still whupped your happy asses!

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:00 AM (gEvQ8)

516 Tepublicans? I blame alcohol.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:01 AM (0ogQG)

517 I blame alcohol.


Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:01 AM (0ogQG)

That had a lot to do with my great scores tonight. Relaxed me to the max!

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:03 AM (gEvQ8)

518 @513 i'm back to watching Lodoss. Parn and Deedlit are such a cute couple.
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Both the elves in that series are worth a second glance.

Oddly enough, just a couple of hours ago I had an ad pop up in my Facebook feed for a Lodoss MMORPG. Weird timing on that, considering it also got mentioned in the thread yesterday (I think).

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:03 AM (fqOFI)

519 Moon is far too small in that image so Paul didn't even waste his time profitably.

Posted by: David Gillies at January 21, 2018 01:05 AM (tjHrt)

520 515 Y'All can tease about my bowling.

"I bowled a 129," he told Leno.

"That's very good, Mr. President," Leno said sarcastically.

But then came the foot-in-mouth moment: "It's like the Special Olympics or something," the president said.

March 30, 2009

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:05 AM (0ogQG)

521 *whistles*

Cel of Kiki when she sets out to find a city and learn to be a witch. A mere pittance at $4,985.15. It is a C cel but has multiple unstuck layers. Background is questionable. And would have to watch the movie again to see if in this scene Jiji is visible because Kiki's black cat should be riding the broom with her.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yak8q95p

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:07 AM (2+EWn)

522 The Lodoss MMORPG went live in Japan a few years ago. Did they ever port it for the American fans?

Lodoss art
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/11/lodoss-art.html

And some more
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/12/more-lodoss-art.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:13 AM (2+EWn)

523 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:05 AM (0ogQG)

That actually pissed me off a lot. One of the leagues I was bowling had a Down's Syndrome bowler. He was about a 160 average bowler and he tried really really hard. Most of the time he was fun to bowl with, but he could get frustrated from time to time. He could have whupped Sir Golf's Alot's ass.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:13 AM (gEvQ8)

524 399 sig is way way better

Posted by: MAxIE at January 21, 2018 01:19 AM (9TR2V)

525 @522 The Lodoss MMORPG went live in Japan a few years ago. Did they ever port it for the American fans?
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I'm staring at the website right now. It looks like it went live for NA players last June.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:20 AM (fqOFI)

526 I hope I'm not prematurely gloating a bit, but after 3 days with a cold yesterday I came down with severe chills and a fever. The flu, most likely. Just peachy, since I don't have any health insurance.

Mama said there'd be days like this. So after wandering around the house with 20#s of blankets, plus an upchuck basket and an achin' bod, I went to sleep. And woke up chill-free and fever-free.

It's not anything I did; it's what my immune system did all on its own. Surprised the fuck outa me. It's a full day later, and there's still some cold sniffles, but nothing else.

I'm ready to give my white blood cells a medal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:21 AM (0ogQG)

527 Mark Steyn at the Restoration Weekend

https://youtu.be/cnJhGbUbRkY

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 21, 2018 01:21 AM (rnAwa)

528 Live for NA? Link?

Well there goes any chances of me finishing any stories this year. The accursed island of Lodoss.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:23 AM (2+EWn)

529 399 sig is way way better
Posted by: MAxIE at January




well, that is my inclination / belief / bias, but the Walther does feel really nice in your hand.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 21, 2018 01:23 AM (MTjB1)

530 Link -

http://www.playrecordoflodosswar.com/

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:24 AM (fqOFI)

531 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:21

Glad you're feeling better, and glad I've avoided that this yr. Tho did have a nasty throat thing, I think it may have been strep.

Nite all, work beckons tomorrow. Be well and be wise.

Posted by: Farmer at January 21, 2018 01:25 AM (yJ1e6)

532 One weird thing about Lodoss I notice - the priests of the human kingdom are worshippers of a polytheistic pantheon but the architecture has a lot of crosses on it.

It's as if the Japanese in 1990 were really impressed with (and mostly-understood) European mediaeval society and culture, but hadn't quite grokked the religion behind it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:25 AM (6FqZa)

533 * trap door opens in front of buffet, and I climb out *

Got any cheese dip left?

...Pot, pot, pot, pot, pot, pot, pot and Pot...

It may already have been said, but I'm grateful that wasn't eight separate links!

Marijuana, grass, boo, weed, ganja, can o bliss, dope, smokems, hemp, reefer, bhang, gage, skunk, and oh yeah pot. M'yeah, I lived through the 60s/70s - I think.

Posted by: mindful webworker - get high: click here at January 21, 2018 01:26 AM (FZxI4)

534 Ugh I hate the character designs on the title page... giving me Legend of Crystania flashbacks.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:26 AM (2+EWn)

535 yay GnuBreed!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:26 AM (6FqZa)

536 523 That actually pissed me off a lot. One of the leagues I was bowling had a Down's Syndrome bowler. He was about a 160 average bowler and he tried really really hard. Most of the time he was fun to bowl with, but he could get frustrated from time to time. He could have whupped Sir Golf's Alot's ass.

Posted by: Old Blue


Iirc, there was some DS bowler who challenged TFG to a bowling match, vowing to kick his ass after these comments went viral.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:26 AM (0ogQG)

537 I'm ready to give my white blood cells a medal.


Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:21 AM (0ogQG)

Yeah, sometimes you just have to sweat it out. Drink a lot of fluids and just let your body do its thing. I hate the muscle aches. You just can't stretch far enough.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:28 AM (gEvQ8)

538 @532 One weird thing about Lodoss I notice - the priests of the human kingdom are worshippers of a polytheistic pantheon but the architecture has a lot of crosses on it.
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It's because the setting is more or less a straight-up Dungeons and Dragons setting. The default setting for the latter is a vaguely Middle Ages pre-gunpowder Europe, but with polytheistic religions. The original Lodoss story came from a series of pencil and paper RPG sessions that used that as the basis of the setting that the group was playing in.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:29 AM (fqOFI)

539 History should never forget and always remember the eight years of horror and suffering America endured under the special needs affirmative action president.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rile the snake video in link at January 21, 2018 01:38 AM (FZxI4)

540 Lodoss was one group's home brew of Dungeons and Dragons. Which gave everyone who had watched the 13 OVA Lodoss a bad head cramp when Legend of Crystania came out. Crystania was based off the real game and what happened there so it included things that got dropped or changed for the OVA series. Crystania only makes continuity sense once Record of Lodoss War: Legend of the Heroic Knight TV series is watched.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:39 AM (2+EWn)

541 Paul must be a liberal.

Posted by: Lisl at January 21, 2018 01:39 AM (OAB5z)

542 @538 It's because the setting is more or less a straight-up Dungeons and Dragons setting. The default setting for the latter is a vaguely Middle Ages pre-gunpowder Europe, but with polytheistic religions. The original Lodoss story came from a series of pencil and paper RPG sessions that used that as the basis of the setting that the group was playing in.
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To add, since monotheistic religions seem to be anathema to your typical fantasy RPG game, the alternative to the polytheistic approach is something like The Light that the human kingdoms worship in Warcraft. The light is a sort of ill-defined holy energy. It's not entirely clear what it is or how it works, only that it exists and that specially trained faithful can channel it. The draenei worship it as well, and a crystalline race called the Naaru can use it in various ways.

With one notable exception, the rest of Azeroth's deities are a mixed bag of what are basically powerful spirits, demons, elder gods, and powerful aliens. The sole exception to this is the chief Night Elf goddess, Elune. It's not entirely clear just what Elune is (which is unusual, given how thorough Blizzard has been in defining all of the other deities) except that she's quite possibly the single most powerful being within the setting.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:40 AM (fqOFI)

543 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:26 AM (0ogQG)

In my bowling community, I've known several DS bowlers. Every one has been a nice person just trying to do the best they can in a world that sometimes can be confusing to them. Sometimes I'm amazed at the things that they find incredible that you and I would take for granted. I read that Iceland had passed a law saying that it was OK to abort a baby that would test for DS. I can't believe how inhumane that kind of attitude is. They have a LIFE! They may not be like us, but they still want to work, they want to love, they want to LIVE! They are not any different than us normal folk. Give them the gift of life.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:41 AM (gEvQ8)

544 @540 Crystania only makes continuity sense once Record of Lodoss War: Legend of the Heroic Knight TV series is watched.
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Unfortunately, imo, Heroic Knight stopped being enjoyable when the second party got introduced.

Never seen Crystania. I might watch it if I ever stumble across it. But I'm not really keeping an eye out for it.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:43 AM (fqOFI)

545 Anna: what's the best way to watch the series? Some say watch the first 8 eps of the 1990 series and then jump into Legend of the Heroic Knight midway through... but HOW midway? start with episode 9 of that?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:44 AM (6FqZa)

546 In Heroic Knight, Ashram and Pirotess with their followers sail away.

Crystania at the very end is it revealed the female elf Cher is really Pirotess and she is trying to free Ashram who sold his own body to a god of the new island so that his people could have a place to live.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:47 AM (2+EWn)

547 @545 what's the best way to watch the series? Some say watch the first 8 eps of the 1990 series and then jump into Legend of the Heroic Knight midway through... but HOW midway? start with episode 9 of that?
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IIRC (and it's been a long time since I watched it), Heroic Knight starts after the party has already been assembled. You could probably watch the original series up through the end of the war, and then just jump right into Heroic Knight. IIRC, Heroic Knight opens with the war, so you'd get some overlap. But the details of the war are slightly different between the two series. So it'd give you a chance to get introduced to the characters as they're portrayed in Heroic Knight.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 01:47 AM (fqOFI)

548 "...The light is a sort of ill-defined holy energy...."

That's how it works for most folks in RL, anyway, right?

Not a gamer.

But then, I'm usually "not" whatever intense subject of the night is.

Lurk & learn, though. Always something new to know.

Posted by: mindful webworker - fogey old as mud at January 21, 2018 01:49 AM (FZxI4)

549 Evening, Horde. Just settled into the motel in Helena, MT. Lots of snow from St. George through Prove, and then it cleared up completely by the time I reached Ogden. Good road conditions all the rest of the way to Helena.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 21, 2018 01:52 AM (r0bHR)

550 In Heroic Knight some time has passed since Parn's party did their great service. Because Slayn and Leila have a daughter named Neece who seems about 12 or so. But yes the war against Marmo continues until the end of Heroic Knight.

In Heroic Knight, Parn and Deederit are heroes. But they owe allegiance to no one and go about trying to make things better all across the island. Which is how they interact with the young knight Spark and his very mixed party.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 01:53 AM (2+EWn)

551 in the news - well, Newsweek, so you have to filter out the bullshit about the Schumer Shutdown: British and Canadian tourists in Jamaica have been warned not to venture from resorts in Montego Bay after a state of emergency was imposed in response to a spate of deadly shootings.

Gee, I wonder if there's a word for such a part of the world where you can't be sure of your physical safety on account that the people controlling it can't even maintain order.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:54 AM (6FqZa)

552 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 21, 2018 01:52 AM (r0bHR)

Just a light snow here in NW Denver. Low pressure setting up in SE CO. Could get interesting as it's an upslope flow. They were saying 4 to 6 inches in the Metro area, now it's 5 to 10. I stocked up on beer on the way home.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 01:57 AM (gEvQ8)

553
I'm ready to give my white blood cells a medal.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 01:21 AM (0ogQG

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*hoists glass*

BOO-yah!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 01:58 AM (KEGIV)

554 Old Blue: NW Denver, huh. That's...

...

... ten miles away.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:59 AM (6FqZa)

555 Evening, Horde. Just settled into the motel in Helena, MT. Lots of snow from St. George through Prove, and then it cleared up completely by the time I reached Ogden. Good road conditions all the rest of the way to Helena.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 21, 2018 01:52 AM (r0bHR)

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Godspeed, AOP!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 01:59 AM (KEGIV)

556 Stay safe and warm AoP.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 02:00 AM (2+EWn)

557 @550 Which is how they interact with the young knight Spark and his very mixed party.
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The focus doesn't shift to Spark until about halfway through the series, though.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 02:00 AM (fqOFI)

558 Gee, I wonder if there's a word for such a part of the world where you can't be sure of your physical safety on account that the people controlling it can't even maintain order.

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"Chicago"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2018 02:00 AM (KEGIV)

559 549 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 21, 2018 01:52 AM (r0bHR)

I've gotta admit, it would take a powerful incentive (ie, > .357 magnum) to get me to leave AZ for Alberta this time of year.

It got below freezing this last week in south MS, and I looked longingly at Miami.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 02:02 AM (0ogQG)

560 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 21, 2018 01:59 AM (6FqZa)

Yup. You're in the People's Republic of Boulder. Ten miles away up the Boulder Turnpike. In Boulder. You're like Zombie. Hiding out in plain sight amidst the enemy. I salute you, brave terlit hobo!

Posted by: Old Blue at January 21, 2018 02:03 AM (gEvQ8)

561 "I'll shoot you full of .38 Special holes if you don't head to Canada right now."

Me: "How many holes?"

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 02:06 AM (0ogQG)

562 Alberta Oil Peon at January 21, 2018 01:52 AM (r0bHR)

Safe travels.

Posted by: Adriane the Music to Vacation by Critic ... at January 21, 2018 02:07 AM (AoK0a)

563 GnuBreed at January 21, 2018 02:06 AM (0ogQG)

Dude. They said head to Canada. They didn't say anything about actually getting there ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music to Vacation by Critic ... at January 21, 2018 02:08 AM (AoK0a)

564 You know how far back I can trace Spark and his party in the Lodoss universe from what was printed in Japan?

The 1992 guide of the Record of Lodoss War PC game has them. AndRecord of Lodoss War Sneaker Bunko novelization book #6, out of 7 in the series, is where Parn and Spark first meet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 02:13 AM (2+EWn)

565 Got distracted. Back, but about to conk out as I should have hours ago.

Stay toasty, AOP.

I sometimes fantasize about getting an RV or trailer and just heading south for the winter, visiting north in the summer. More control than this staying in one place and letting the weather wash over us.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bz z z at January 21, 2018 02:15 AM (FZxI4)

566 Sneaker Bunk Lodoss RPG Book II here are Spark's stats.
ST 11 EN 11 AG 18 IN 10 LU 14 PB 16

From RPG Book I, Parn's starting stats are
ST 14 EN 13 AG 13 IN 14 LU 18 PB 12

For the PC game, Parn has better and worse stats
ST 17 EN 14 AG 10 IN 9 LU 16 PB 13

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 02:24 AM (2+EWn)

567 @564 The 1992 guide of the Record of Lodoss War PC game has them. AndRecord of Lodoss War Sneaker Bunko novelization book #6, out of 7 in the series, is where Parn and Spark first meet.
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Can't remember - does Spark get introduced before Heroic Knight shifts to him?

IIRC, the shift to Spark is the moment when I started to dislike Heroic Knight. I liked the new supporting party members, but not the new leads. Neece in particular bugged me. And her extremely young age didn't help.

Posted by: junior at January 21, 2018 02:27 AM (fqOFI)

568 I sometimes fantasize about getting an RV or trailer and just heading south for the winter, visiting north in the summer. More control than this staying in one place and letting the weather wash over us.

We have been living full time for 10 yrs. I just run my design studio out of my rig. Very liberating and we homeschooled our daughter. Also have been to all 50 states.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 21, 2018 02:27 AM (ukzXL)

569 Junior, well now I want to watch all of it again myself. Though thankfully I don't have a DVD copy of Crystania, because even though I know it follows in the time line, the character designs are simply horrendous and low budget.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 02:30 AM (2+EWn)

570 Quilter's Irish Death #568: We have been living full time for 10 yrs. I just run my design studio out of my rig. Very liberating and we homeschooled our daughter. Also have been to all 50 states.

Very cool. And encouraging.

Interesting nic.

I hear a pile of pillows and blankets calling me. They're mispronouncing my name, but I'm pretty sure they mean me.

Gooooooooood nt.

Posted by: mindful webworker - z z z z z at January 21, 2018 02:32 AM (FZxI4)