The Morning Report - 10/15/18

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Good morning kids. Monday and I feel like a million... a million pieces of poo. All day allergy attack yesterday continues and the Allegra I took last night just makes me feel like a rung out dishrag. Anyway, I'll muddle through somehow as there are things happening that are worthy of attention. I'll hit those as best I can and then let the headlines and my parenthetical snark fill in the blanks.

First up, I think it's fair to say that Portland, Oregon is rapidly devolving into anarchy and then a far-leftist anti-American "no-go zone." The mayor, Ted Wheeler is not only doing nothing to quell the terrorist Antifa thugs from taking over the streets but is openly standing by his decision to do so. I think part of this is a calculated decision on his as well as Democrat Party leadership to goad the President into perhaps calling in the National Guard to restore order. I think the violence that will no doubt ensue is intended to both alienate the GOP base as well as fire up the Dem base as we head into the midterms. The X factor in all this is some punk-degenerate-whitebread-basement-dwelling-Pearl Jam-listening stooge who fancies himself the second coming of Che Guevara will not be told what to do by Wheeler, Merkley, Wyden and whomever else and just declare Portland no longer part of America. Frankly, I favor a Rachel Corrie solution to this but that may be suboptimal... for now. In any case, all of the aforementioned took an oath to protect ALL the citizens by upholding the law and the US Constitution. Oh, wait. Never mind. And on the other side of the country, while Bernardo Sandersnista refuses to disavow and/or condemn the political violence and intimidation coming 99.9999% from his side, Deserae Morin, a Republican running for a seat in the Vermont House of Representatives, has received vile death and rape threats from someone claiming to be a "socialist."

The other big story continues to be the fallout with this Jamal Khashoggi Washington Post correspondent who went missing in Istanbul and has been presumed to have been assassinated by the Saudis. While the media here and abroad is desperate to use this as some sort of cudgel to beat the President with and perhaps split our alliance with the KSA, some interesting developments have come to light. It turns out that Khashoggi is not only vehemently opposed to the reform-minded young Saudi Prince and his agenda, he is/was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, has a connection to Osama Bin Laden and, surprise-surprise! the mullahs in Iran. All things being equal, if that is the case, then the only think I would criticize the Saudis for would be their "handling" of this individual. Actually rather surprised that the evil weather-controlling Jooz weren't blamed... yet. Stay tuned. The other big foreign policy story is, of course, the release from Turkey of American hostage Pastor Andrew Brunson who kissed the American flag and prayed with and for President Trump in the Oval Office.

Some quick hits before I plotz, Kevin McCarthy is definitely moving ahead with a bill for full border wall funding, ramped up enforcement and other things (I wonder what really is in the bill) while at the same time decrying the Soros, Steyer and Doomberg for using their money to interfere with the legitimate political and governmental processes. Too bad he neglected to mention the Koch brothers whores in his broadside as they are now openly pimping for open borders and complete opposition to the President's policies. Funny how the IRS never seems to go after those guys.

Lastly, see the final link to Discover The Networks. David Horowitz has compiled a veritable encyclopedia of every major player and organization of the Left that seeks to overthrow the nation. Bookmark that. It's a rhetorical target-rich environment.

Anyway, links from around the world, across the nation and up your street. Have a better one and remain blessed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:57 AM




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1 Yay

Posted by: JAS at October 15, 2018 07:57 AM (3HNOQ)

2 top of the morning!

Posted by: IanDeal at October 15, 2018 07:57 AM (5mrLG)

3 top 10?

Posted by: Rosasharn at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (gC288)

4 3rd? REALLY? Nice.

Posted by: Rosasharn at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (gC288)

5 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (JFO2v)

6 Thanks for link and hardwork JJ!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (JFO2v)

7 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 07:59 AM (9MKXa)

8 feel better JJ

I yse Flonase when I'm really allergy miserable

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:59 AM (dMvl+)

9 Good morning, horde!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (81OU+)

10 Progressives like Bernie always willing to let the mentally ill and violent enforce their rule over others.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (JFO2v)

11 Mornin', Horde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (kZUVU)

12 8 feel better JJ

I yse Flonase when I'm really allergy miserable
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:59 AM (dMvl+)


Worst attack I've had in ages. Weirder still since I've been going to an allergist for over 7 years already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (/9p9e)

13 I do not give a boof about this Kashoggi dood

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 08:01 AM (dMvl+)

14 feel better JJ

I yse Flonase when I'm really allergy miserable
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:59 AM (dMvl+)

JJ try a little Brandy but no cannolli and don't drive in any cars with a guy named Rocco

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:01 AM (9MKXa)

15 Top 20, I'll take it. Mornin' all.

Posted by: Motown daydrunk, bing bing bong at October 15, 2018 08:02 AM (951Yv)

16 Which oppressor will the left call to be branded with a scarlet letter first?

The white men?
The white women?
Conservative blacks?
Conservative Hispanics?
Conservative Jews?

Or are they just going to go with "unles you prove you voted for the Democrat in our free, fair and open election, you are an enemy of the democracy? "

Posted by: Dr. RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 15, 2018 08:02 AM (TN1P5)

17 14 feel better JJ

I yse Flonase when I'm really allergy miserable
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:59 AM (dMvl+)

JJ try a little Brandy but no cannolli and don't drive in any cars with a guy named Rocco
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:01 AM (9MKXa)


"Stupid Jerk!!!"

- - Paulie at wedding

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:02 AM (/9p9e)

18 Khassogi goes into hiding, compatriots spin story of murder.

Not that deep or complex a conspiracy theory, is it?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:02 AM (oVJmc)

19 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:03 AM (QYAhh)

20
Who would ever imagine that a Mayor would side with the hoody, baseball cap, and sunglass wearing types all dressed in black? It sort of seems obvious everyone knows they're up to no good and they don't want to be recognized or identified.

Every time the (D)'s run on a platform of law-breaking and disorder they get their asses handed to them. So... never mind.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 08:03 AM (URwyc)

21 Democrats running for re-election in the 2018 midterms are being advised to not speak about the issue of immigration as consultants admit the illegal immigrant raping and killing and wives and daughter positions of the Democrat Party are unpopular with swing voters.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:03 AM (JFO2v)

22 Portland Tribune: Everything's fine here, don't believe what you read! Besides:
Portland has earned the No. 1 spot on a new list ranking "2018's Best Foodie Cities in America."

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 08:03 AM (uyBIH)

23 One weird-ass thing to keep an eye on Re : Saudi Arabia/Khashoggi.

WWE is locked into a 10-year contract to not only put on shows in KSA, but also air videos promoting KSA and the reform efforts.

Don't be surprised if the Demoncrats try using Linda McMahon's connection to Trump as a pretense for "High Crimes" to Impeach over.

There's your October Surprise.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:04 AM (UnA8+)

24 Interesting that all these pieces of shit cover their faces like ISIS terrorists...

Posted by: Ripley at October 15, 2018 08:04 AM (fVGR3)

25 Fauxcahontas has Injun blood. Honest Injun. She's got a DNA test and everything.

But here's the thing. According to her 'family lore', as she has related it, the Injunatin' happened 3 generations ago, maybe 4. The 'test' sez it must of happened 6 to 10 generations ago.

And of course she continues to claim that she never used AA to get on the Harvard faculty, even though they had never hired a professor from her lowly law school before.

G'mornin all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:04 AM (Z4rgH)

26 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 15, 2018 08:04 AM (QAdJD)

27 Why does the MFM have such a hard on for the MB?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:05 AM (y7DUB)

28 top 40 hits all day long with JJ and casey kasem...

now to read the news.

morning horde.

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 15, 2018 08:05 AM (8D42x)

29 Didn't you have a link on Friday that said the Turks are pissed at us and this is an op to get the US to split with KSA?
The more I know about Khassoggi, the more I hope he is dead.

Posted by: JAS at October 15, 2018 08:05 AM (3HNOQ)

30 What fresh hell will the Democrats unleash on themselves today?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 15, 2018 08:05 AM (yQpMk)

31 Hello?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:06 AM (9MKXa)

32 Doesn't the Governor of Oregon have to request the National Guard?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 15, 2018 08:06 AM (boNFp)

33 We all have injun blood somewhere

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:06 AM (9MKXa)

34 We should always welcome people who desire to come here and contribute because is it both morally right

So to not want to allow 1.5 million freeloaders and criminals is now morally wrong!

The Kochhead bros are really just progressives that throw out a few liberal ideas to hide the ball.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:07 AM (JFO2v)

35 I expect a real CabaList push to Katrinaize Trump and Scott this week over Hurricane Michael.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 15, 2018 08:08 AM (yQpMk)

36 J.J.

Sorry to hear that you feel like a great big ball of space poop.

Portland has many less than obvious parallels with Baltimore.

First was the Freddy Grey memorial undocumented street shooting and lolapoluza , where the then Mayor let the feral go free range.

Now we have tax paying citizens being assaulted, and windows being broken ut of their vehicles at intersections by squeegee kids practicing shake-down and intimidation tactics.
All with the Mayor and County Council making excuses to those who simply want to live in the city with some degree of safety.

And folks are getting tired of the "Understand the Criminal" mindset.

They just want to feel like the government is going to give the average law abiding citizen a fair shake.
And they know that they are not going to get that under the current Progressive form of local government.

Or, as I always say...

Do don't get what you expect.
You get what you accept.

And right now, Progressives will accept lawlessness and anarchy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:08 AM (cqNba)

37 Fauxcahontas has had a DNA test, y'all, and she's TOTALLY 1/512 Injun! High cheekbones FTW!


Posted by: Bert G at October 15, 2018 08:08 AM (OMsf+)

38
Q: What do you call a reporter who disappears?
A: A good start.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 08:08 AM (sdi6R)

39 32 Doesn't the Governor of Oregon have to request the National Guard?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 15, 2018 08:06 AM (boNFp)


I don't think so. It's Kate Brown who is another Lefty nut-burger. And IIRC didn't Eisenhower call in the National Guard to restore order in Little Rock in the wake of Brown v BofE?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:09 AM (/9p9e)

40 Good Morning Morons

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:09 AM (mpXpK)

41 Hello?

Posted by: Nevergiveup


hiya

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:09 AM (QYAhh)

42 I hear I am 1/512 a Rockefeller...Where is my inheritance?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (9MKXa)

43 21 "... illegal immigrant raping and killing and wives and daughter ..."

Actually, that is OK, its what BK was alleged to have done 30+ years ago that is of grave national concern.

"...Everything that ought to be down is up.
Everything that should be up is down.
They've got it upside down and we're going to turn it right-side up. -- Al Gore 1992

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (boNFp)

44 18 MILLION ILLEGAL OR INVALID VOTER REGISTRATIONS!

WTFO?

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (JFO2v)

45
The Saudis offed an Islamist?

*yawns*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (EZebt)

46 Good Morning Morons



Posted by: Vic



hiya

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (QYAhh)

47 "Hello?

Posted by: Nevergiveup "

G'morning, Doc.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (cqNba)

48 I don't know calling in the National Guard to give Antifa an ass kicking would be mid-term gold for R's...

Posted by: STL Hawkeye at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (wvG1L)

49 If your side is wearing masks, then you are not the good guys

Posted by: BigZesty at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (hJn/J)

50 How can I be third on the Wall of Shame?? There was one whole day I didn't say nuffin!

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:11 AM (lwiT4)

51 That DNA test ol' flat chest took wouldn't be conclusive as to percentage, required for legal tribal admission. Next time I hit the casino, there's a tribal cop I always bs with, and he sits on the local tribal council. He would know the percentage and he's Cherokee, same as Warren is claiming.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 15, 2018 08:11 AM (xzqr4)

52 49 If your side is wearing masks, then you are not the good guys
Posted by: BigZesty at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (hJn/J)


At least not in this country. Yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:11 AM (/9p9e)

53 Get well, JJ. Thanks for the links!

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (F6tBH)

54 15
white women are the Jooz traitors of the week! It will change soon!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (JFO2v)

55 Lying Scankles continues her double standards and CBS eats it up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (mpXpK)

56 Why would Trump call in the National Guard? Why save Portland voters from the people they elected?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (oVJmc)

57 49 If your side is wearing masks, then you are not the good guys
Posted by: BigZesty at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (hJn/J)

Wearing a mask is how one identifies themselves as a Zek.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (UnA8+)

58 Thank you, J.J., for another great post.

Good morning, Horde!

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 15, 2018 08:13 AM (nvMvs)

59 How can I be third on the Wall of Shame?? There was one whole day I didn't say nuffin!


Posted by: grammie winger


If you would have said something, you would have been FIRST !

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:13 AM (QYAhh)

60 Is that a picture of Ted Wheeler, the Portland mayor? I gather it is. And he looks exactly like I'd expect. My 4 year old niece could walk up and say "boo" and he'd run off wetting his pants.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 15, 2018 08:13 AM (mQ0Mc)

61 Besides: Portland has earned the No. 1 spot on a new list ranking "2018's Best Foodie Cities in America."

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 08:03 AM (uyBIH)



Gag. Who would eat there?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (lwiT4)

62 And I hope you feel better soon, JJ. For a guy that isn't feeling 100%, your EMTs still pack a wallop.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (mQ0Mc)

63 Why would Trump call in the National Guard? Why save Portland voters from the people they elected?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (oVJmc)


Exactly, it's not like Portland became this den of nutjobs overnight.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (y7DUB)

64 I wouldn't send in the National Guard to Portland even if Antifa started burning the place down. They wanted it. Let 'em get it good and hard.

Posted by: no good deed at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (1uG1d)

65 If you would have said something, you would have been FIRST !

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:13 AM (QYAhh)


Tis a puzzlement

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (lwiT4)

66 60 Is that a picture of Ted Wheeler, the Portland mayor? I gather it is. And he looks exactly like I'd expect. My 4 year old niece could walk up and say "boo" and he'd run off wetting his pants.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 15, 2018 08:13 AM (mQ0Mc)

Yes. But he has that look of "mid-level totalitarian regime functionary" in his eyes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:15 AM (/9p9e)

67 opening sentence of draw mohammed with a goat contest link
face the death penalty one of the harshest punishments in the Islamic world

And I thot the no pussy cause you drank too much was the worst

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:15 AM (JFO2v)

68 Lots of parallels between Portland and Gotham.

'Specially crime and politics.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:15 AM (cqNba)

69 Portland is a Seattle wannabe. Like Seattle is a San Francisco wannabe. All of them are full of idiots.

Posted by: Case, who ponders the neon Red Pegasus atop the Magnolia Building at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (XWvgx)

70 63 Why would Trump call in the National Guard? Why save Portland voters from the people they elected?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:12 AM (oVJmc)

Exactly, it's not like Portland became this den of nutjobs overnight.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:14 AM (y7DUB)

What happens there can spread elsewhere. Best to crush it like a bug at the outset.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (/9p9e)

71 J.J. - your morning links are treasured in our home. Thanks again. I'll never need to watch TV news again.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (lwiT4)

72 i always relate portland to my daily morning ritual. i always flush twice, just be sure. can't be too careful.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (KP5rU)

73 Kashoggi? I thought that was A-rab for Gesundheit

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (8ikIW)

74 Also : Let's not forget Alec Baldwin calling for the "Overthrow of the US Government".

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (UnA8+)

75 Lots of parallels between Portland and Gotham.

'Specially crime and politics.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


Lots of parallels between Batman & Trump.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (8sd9V)

76 Portland: Welcome to Baltimore West

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (9MKXa)

77 I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for the people of Portland, even though there have to be some there who aren't total douches. They voted for this shit, time and time again.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (fqUgw)

78 Read the comments on a yahoo article about Trump's rallies.

Thousands and thousands of people waiting hours and hours to see him and the top comments?

Trump is doing the rallies because no one will listen to him anymore and the only reason he is doing so many rallies is because he's losing.

The Democrats learned nothing from 2016 and continue to refuse to see any reason-- other than they were cheated-- to explain why they lost.

The exact same media template from 2016 is playing out all over again:
Dems are certain to win
Republicans are a minority
The huge rallies by Trump are meaningless
The Dems huge money advantage is all that matters
Etc., etc.

They have no idea that they are about to lose again--bigly.

*My favorite comment from the comments? Some lefty says "the electoral college can't save Trump in the midterms! Hahahaha!!" Followed by, uh Trump also won more House congressional districts than Hillary too.
The lefty idiots are so deep up their own asses, they see daylight when they burp.

Posted by: Dr. RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (TN1P5)

79 Fauxcahontas has Injun blood. Honest Injun. She's got a DNA test and everything.



And of course she continues to claim that she never used AA to get
on the Harvard faculty, even though they had never hired a professor
from her lowly law school before.

===================

Wasn't she hired from Penn? Not a lowly school, if so.

But is this serious? Did she really do this?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (Z216Q)

80 66 JJ, wouldn't mid level totalitarian regime functionary be the file clerk for the 3X5 cards with The Names?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 15, 2018 08:18 AM (xzqr4)

81 Sean Spicier tweets,

I'm showing my support for Michelle Obama's "Educate All Girls" campaign by donating a cookbook.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:18 AM (8ikIW)

82 Regarding Portland, if the Left wants to do something like that, go right ahead. It will fall on the governor to restore order.

I wonder when the local chamber of commerce is happy with all of this?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - No Consigliere? Can't Nuke From Orbit? Restock Your Cliches at The Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2018 08:19 AM (hLRSq)

83 73 Kashoggi? I thought that was A-rab for Gesundheit
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (8ikIW)

That koshoggi bear cartoon always make me laugh and i love Booboo

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 08:19 AM (JFO2v)

84 80 66 JJ, wouldn't mid level totalitarian regime functionary be the file clerk for the 3X5 cards with The Names?
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 15, 2018 08:18 AM (xzqr4)


Yes. Or "little Eichmann..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:19 AM (/9p9e)

85 Also : Let's not forget Alec Baldwin calling for the "Overthrow of the US Government".

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (UnA8+)



Isn't that one of those things that can land you in big trouble, like saying you're going to harm you-know-who? Why is he not being investigated for treason?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (lwiT4)

86 What happens there can spread elsewhere. Best to crush it like a bug at the outset.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (/9p9e)


You're sounding like a totalitarian with this just like you were wrong on the MeToo horseshit. It's a local problem and deserves to be handled locally.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (y7DUB)

87
Breaking Fake News: Radical Leftist Imam Alec Baldwin Didn't Mean It When He Said The Govt Needs to be Overthrown - he just meant the govt needs to be Overthrown.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (4m/SK)

88 Does Bernie Sandernista still have three houses? Is his wife still under FBI investigation for bank fraud? Why do these investigations take so damn long?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (Z216Q)

89 NGU, the last I saw of you, you were putting on pants and hard shoes and going off to meet your future-in-laws. How did that go?

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (U5tDi)

90 Why does the MFM have such a hard on for the MB? Posted by: Captain Hate

I'll take a stab at this...it's because of the ease with which elites (read dictators, thugs, monarchies, etc.) can tell the unwashed masses how to live their lives, raise their children and spend their money. Total compliance or death. It's the ultimate form of control, and explained to a large degree the idol-worship Democrats had for former President Executive Order.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (sM+h7)

91 76 Portland: Welcome to Baltimore West
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:17 AM (9MKXa)


"Hey now!"

- - Baltimore: the Portland of the East

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (/9p9e)

92 Wasn't she hired from Penn? Not a lowly school, if so.
_________________

She taught at Penn (mainly because of her husband, who was the one the school really wanted), but she graduated from Rutgers Law School, which I think is the "lowly" school being referred to.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (fqUgw)

93 the mayor of portland looks like he would be right at home in a guard tower at auschwitz. take his power away, and he wouls shit himself. fairies wear boots.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (KP5rU)

94
Breaking Fake News: Elizabeth Warren "Proves" Her Indian Heritage

Except she didnt. The bullshit dna test "suggests strong evidence" of Indian ancestor from 6-10 generations ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (4m/SK)

95 There were two dustups this weekend between antifas and Proud Boys (NYC) and PB/Patriot Prayer (Portland). iirc Gavin McInnes is part of the Proud Boys or an organizer.

They came prepared to fight, but weren't wearing masks like those antifa pussies.

Anyhow, things are heating up in the cold civil war.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (Z4rgH)

96 Baltimore. Another Hell Hole.

Posted by: Case, who ponders the neon Red Pegasus atop the Magnolia Building at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (XWvgx)

97 86 What happens there can spread elsewhere. Best to crush it like a bug at the outset.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (/9p9e)

You're sounding like a totalitarian with this just like you were wrong on the MeToo horseshit. It's a local problem and deserves to be handled locally.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (y7DUB)


I was wrong on MeToo? In what way?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (/9p9e)

98
Cuck Schemer is the new Ralph Nader of limousine safety.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:23 AM (4m/SK)

99 Sean Spicier tweets,

I'm showing my support for Michelle Obama's "Educate All Girls" campaign by donating a cookbook.
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:18 AM (8ikIW)
---------

I do hope it's one of ours.

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:23 AM (U5tDi)

100 NGU, the last I saw of you, you were putting on pants and hard shoes and going off to meet your future-in-laws. How did that go?
Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (U5tDi)

Very well. My wife only kicked me under the table 3 times

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:23 AM (9MKXa)

101 94
Breaking Fake News: Elizabeth Warren "Proves" Her Indian Heritage

Except she didnt. The bullshit dna test "suggests strong evidence" of Indian ancestor from 6-10 generations ago.
________________

Sounds like Lizzie's running for pres in 2020 after all.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 15, 2018 08:24 AM (fqUgw)

102 Khashoggi is an interesting story, like most spy thrillers, but I really have a hard time caring. I figure everyone talking, the Turks, the Sauds, the Iranians, the WaPo, the so-called fiancee, everyone is lying. Not a single party to this saga is being honest.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:24 AM (Z216Q)

103 Sean Spicier tweets,

I'm showing my support for Michelle Obama's "Educate All Girls" campaign by donating a cookbook.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:18 AM (8ikIW)


Ouch, baby! Very ouch!

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (VhKw6)

104 100 NGU, the last I saw of you, you were putting on pants and hard shoes and going off to meet your future-in-laws. How did that go?
Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (U5tDi)

Very well. My wife only kicked me under the table 3 times
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:23 AM (9MKXa)


It would be funny if she missed your shin and hit someone's head...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (/9p9e)

105 Very well. My wife only kicked me under the table 3 times
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:23 AM (9MKXa)
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Sounds like a triumph. Congratulations.

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (U5tDi)

106
Trivia:

Both Portland and Seattle were home to World Trade Organization riots about two decades ago.

Funny, but I kinda agreed with them back then -- not to the point of rioting, of course. Just general principles.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (URwyc)

107 Sandersnista Won't Condemn Protesters Harassing Republicans: "We Need To Mobilize"

I'm not so sure about that. Here's what he said:

The closest Sanders came to critiquing leftist activity was a milquetoast commentary on their tactics.

"I'm not a great fan of being rude or disrupting activities," Sanders added.


In the context of today's left, that's almost Churchillian.

But I do think he may be missing an opportunity. If, as I expect, the Ds aren't going to get their wave, and then follow that by getting McGoverned in 20209, there would be a perfect position open for a kingmaker, and Bernie could be it.

He really should understand that his chance for the Presidency is past. There are younger challengers whom the Pravda Media will cream over, far more than it will him. Hell, even the white-haired socialist slot is probably more Warren's than his. While he'll be too old for the top spot, he'd at least be adored by his party and the crushed media.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (59GGI)

108 79 Huck,

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb2bztjy

Wash. Examiner

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (Z4rgH)

109 Cuck Schemer is the new Ralph Nader of limousine safety.

State problem, Chuckles.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (oVJmc)

110 Fauxcahontas has Injun blood. Honest Injun. She's got a DNA test and everything.

23 and Me people have admitted to sending customers false data showing a trace of non-white ancestry to "mess with racists".

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (81OU+)

111 Why does the MFM have such a hard on for the MB? Posted by: Captain Hate

I'll take a stab at this...it's because of the ease with which elites (read dictators, thugs, monarchies, etc.) can tell the unwashed masses how to live their lives, raise their children and spend their money. Total compliance or death. It's the ultimate form of control, and explained to a large degree the idol-worship Democrats had for former President Executive Order.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 08:21 AM (sM+h7)


That's a good attempt, and I don't disagree with anything, but I'm looking specifically at the Muslim Brotherhood and how members of that, like dear sweet Huma and now this Khashoggi trash heap are treated like royalty.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (y7DUB)

112 McCarthy's Border Wall Bill feels like another episode of Failure Theater (The Republican's Longest-Running Drama). He knows it will never get past the Senate.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

113 Also : Let's not forget Alec Baldwin calling for the "Overthrow of the US Government".


--

At least he hasn't yet screamed into the phone that we are "f-ing little pigs." Dude has psychological issues. Our side didn't win, so we must overthrow the US govt. Go with that, Skippy.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (mQ0Mc)

114
33 percent! That's a f'n big deal!

Posted by: Joe! 2020! at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (ctuyM)

115
Fauxcahontas has Injun blood. Honest Injun. She's got a DNA test and everything.

But here's the thing. According to her 'family lore', as she has related it, the Injunatin' happened 3 generations ago, maybe 4. The 'test' sez it must of happened 6 to 10 generations ago.

And of course she continues to claim that she never used AA to get on the Harvard faculty, even though they had never hired a professor from her lowly law school before.

G'mornin all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:04 AM (Z4rgH)








Her Cherokee "heritage" dates back to when thousands of white folks used to fraudulently claim Cherokee ties in order to gain preferences for land in the Oklahoma Territory before whites were officially allowed to claim homesteads.

Apparently, there's something about the way that the Cherokee documented their people that was conducive to fraud and a lot of folks jumped all over it. When her heritage came up many years ago, there was an unrelated author interviewed on CSPAN at the time, about his book on the Oklahoma Territory. He spent a lot of time in the interview talking about the heritage/land issue. Struck me as quite funny at the time, I wish I could remember the details.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2018 08:27 AM (eXA4G)

116 And with regard to this journalist - I remember the Cold War and how the media and the Left would get their knickers in a twist whenever one of the nasty regimes we were allied to made some commie "agricultural reformer" disappear. They were on the other side then and are on the other side now, only then was the Soviet Union and now is Iran. All of their yelling and moral calls didn't change our policy then and I doubt it will change our policy now.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - No Consigliere? Can't Nuke From Orbit? Restock Your Cliches at The Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (hLRSq)

117 This is a country that is 73% white.

The dems are campaigning like it's 10% white.

Long before Trump, many of us here pointed out that a 5% increase in the white vote was worth a 20-30% increase in the Hispanic vote.
Yet, the GOPe was chasing the near- impossible of the Hispanic vote (gotta pass amnesty!) and Trump canne and said, "Nah bro. I'l take these millions of votes you keep ignoring and I'll win. "

That's part of the Dem hysteria against whites right now-- to drive down their voting participation back to where it was when the Dems were winning.

Posted by: Dr. RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (TN1P5)

118 Except she didnt. The bullshit dna test "suggests strong evidence" of Indian ancestor from 6-10 generations ago.





Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (4m/SK)


I had a DNA test on a little poodle mix dog I had years ago. I wanted to know what "the mix" was. 4 generations back it said there was Dalmation. My little poodle mix was about 19 pounds, and had a light reddish solid coat. Dalmation, 4 generations removed. Sure.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (lwiT4)

119 Except she didnt. The bullshit dna test "suggests strong evidence" of Indian ancestor from 6-10 generations ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer

I did a 23 and Me test. I have that much injun in it too

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (8ikIW)

120 112 McCarthy's Border Wall Bill feels like another episode of Failure Theater (The Republican's Longest-Running Drama). He knows it will never get past the Senate.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (O7MnT)


Well, considering the Kavanaugh victory this will be somewhat of a tell if Yertle and Grahaminator have changed or not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (/9p9e)

121 She taught at Penn (mainly because of her husband, who was the one the
school really wanted), but she graduated from Rutgers Law School, which I
think is the "lowly" school being referred to

=====================

Rutgers is also a pretty good law school, I believe, but it matters not. These are all pretty good schools. The real point here, and it shouldn't get lost in irrelevancies, is that she was hired specifically (and only) because she claimed Native American blood and Harvard, who never checked because quotas are stupid anyway, was happy to spout off about it afterwards.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:29 AM (Z216Q)

122 NGU, the last I saw of you, you were putting on pants and hard shoes and going off to meet your future-in-laws. How did that go?


Posted by: bluebell


If he's already married, what's with the FUTURE in-laws?

Is he adopting in-laws ?

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:29 AM (QYAhh)

123 111 Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:26 AM (y7DUB)


Yes. AND...

Still waiting for you to dress me down about #MeToo...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:29 AM (/9p9e)

124 27 Why does the MFM have such a hard on for the MB?
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:05 AM (y7DUB)

MoBro-imposed Shari'ah... Death or Dismemberment as the penalty for violating any Government Decree.

How could they NOT love it?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:30 AM (UnA8+)

125 in news you didn't need to read dept:

alec baldwin (he of the homophobic, racist, mysoginist drunken bullying) gave the keynote address for the new hampshire democratic party fundraiser, the eleanor roosevelt dinner.

haven't heard of that? it was changed from the kennedy/clinton dinner but they had to change the name because of #metoo. before that it was known as the jefferson/jackson dinner, but they had to scrap that because of black lives matter.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2018 08:30 AM (Pg+x7)

126 Can Portland now be officially designated a 'shithole'?


What we need is MAGA rally in Portland to remove any doubt as to its shithole status.

Posted by: The people across the aisle want us silenced at best,dead at worst at October 15, 2018 08:30 AM (FUJZT)

127 124 MoBro-imposed Shari'ah... Death or Dismemberment as the penalty for violating any Government Decree.

How could they NOT love it?
Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:30 AM (UnA8+)


It depends on the government.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:30 AM (/9p9e)

128 119 I did a 23 and Me test. I have that much injun in it too
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:28 AM (8ikIW)

You willingly gave your DNA to Google?

Yikes.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (UnA8+)

129 George Papadopolous is awfully chatty lately.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (/tuJf)

130 Haredi man attacked while walking to NYC synagogue
Lipa Schwartz, 62, was jumped and beaten in Borough Park, Brooklyn; the attacker: 37-year-old Afzal Farrukh, charged with a hate crime; Baruch Hashem, Im out of the hospital with some minor bruises, but the trauma of being attacked by someone will stay with me forever, says the victim

Anyone hear from decommio yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (9MKXa)

131 39 I don't think so. It's Kate Brown who is another
Lefty nut-burger. And IIRC didn't Eisenhower call in the National Guard
to restore order in Little Rock in the wake of Brown v BofE?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:09 AM (/9p9e)

And yes, even Ike thought his order was illegal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (mpXpK)

132 If you are what you eat, then there should be some prairie crab DNA showing up in those results.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (ctuyM)

133 Huck,



https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb2bztjy



Wash. Examiner


Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM

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LOL....a DNA test that "suggests" there might be some Native American ancestor 6-10 generations ago is complete and utter bull$hit.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (JUOKG)

134 If he's already married, what's with the FUTURE in-laws?

Is he adopting in-laws ?
Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:29 AM (QYAhh)
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He's hoping they'll adopt him.

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (U5tDi)

135 If she didn't use supposed indian ancestry as part of her CV, why did she contribute to 'Pow Wow Chow?'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (oVJmc)

136
If he's already married, what's with the FUTURE in-laws?

Is he adopting in-laws ?
Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:29 AM (QYAhh)

Daughter's boyfriends parents
He actually ask for my permission last night. LOL.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (9MKXa)

137 Good article by Rabbi Fischer explicating "socialism." The Israeli socialists, they used to have other daily challenges, like getting a phone call.

When the state was first founded, relations with the USSR were quite good, based on international communist solidarity. That period did not last very long though.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (EZebt)

138 when my grandmother was a child, native americans stole the pies her mother baked. they were cooling on the window sill. therefore, i am part oneida indian. lizzie has nothing on me. there was no rape, rape.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (KP5rU)

139
Why does the MFM have such a hard on for the MB?

Posted by: Captain Hate


If you needed any more evidence that Islam is a political movement and not a religion, it would be the deference shown it by the Left. What other religion would they treat so respectfully?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 15, 2018 08:33 AM (LsBY9)

140 I was wrong on MeToo? In what way?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:22 AM (/9p9e)


We argued about a month ago that I said it was a bad thing in general to railroad people on unprovable things even if they were dickholes like Weinstein and Lauer, and that sooner or later it would be turned against people we like. You were saying they all deserved it so I just dropped it rather than takes up bandwidth on it, just like I'll let you respond to this and go no further.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:33 AM (y7DUB)

141 Daughter's boyfriends parents
He actually ask for my permission last night. LOL.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (9MKXa)
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Did you give him a list of demands that must be met first? And did you put "no green M&Ms" in there somewhere to be sure he actually was paying attention?

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:33 AM (U5tDi)

142 What happens there can spread elsewhere. Best to crush it like a bug at the outset.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM (/9p9e)

You're sounding like a totalitarian with this just like you were wrong on the MeToo horseshit. It's a local problem and deserves to be handled locally.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:20 AM (y7DUB)


The president does not get involved unless the governor requests federal assistance *or* the area is declared to be in insurrection. Until then it is a state and local problem.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - No Consigliere? Can't Nuke From Orbit? Restock Your Cliches at The Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (hLRSq)

143 18 MILLION ILLEGAL OR INVALID VOTER REGISTRATIONS!

I suspect the vast majority of those are invalid, as in a person still registered where they used to live in addition to where they live now.

Of greater concern to me, and harder to fight, are the cases where the vote counters just add votes to the total that get lost in the soup.

The 2016 Detroit recount, precincts that report more votes than registered voters, etc. If the fraud didn't only go in one direction some reporter could make a name for themselves investigating this.

Maybe, if blacks start voting Republican as Trump suggests, people will start taking an interest in this issue.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (81OU+)

144 I get it that Kanye West and Taylor Swift may have some effect on the election, and to that extent their BS is news. And I hope Kanye's is a bigger deal, as he's on my side just now.

But I cannot for the life of me see why I should care about it per se. I've never understood that attitude. I never cared that Myrna Loy was a pinko, and it was at most a very small plus that Jimmy Stewart wasn't. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (59GGI)

145 At least,the Marxists take their leaders from Marxist dominated states like,California and New York.

The GOPe tries to sucker us with a Speaker of the House from Failifornia..

McCarthy is whale shit. Buyer beware.

Posted by: The people across the aisle want us silenced at best,dead at worst at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (FUJZT)

146 131 39 I don't think so. It's Kate Brown who is another
Lefty nut-burger. And IIRC didn't Eisenhower call in the National Guard
to restore order in Little Rock in the wake of Brown v BofE?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:09 AM (/9p9e)

And yes, even Ike thought his order was illegal.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:31 AM (mpXpK)


You bring up an interesting point which I had planned on doing a post about. To wit, how are we to fight an opponent who has zero respect for the rule of law and our Constitution (and increasingly the sanctity of life and property) because they seek to overthrow it, by relying on those institutions with which to fight that battle?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (/9p9e)

147 I had to change a main character's name yesterday.

I'd called him Chuck since before I started writing, and then my mother says, "Is Chuck period appropriate for mid to late 19th Century?"

I looked, and no, it's not.

Ugh...so I changed it to Cort, short for Cortland.

I don't like it as much, but that may just be sentimentality.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (elLTo)

148
So has anyone sent their pet's blood to 23 and Me? Someone HAS to have done it, to check if they're being honest *koff koff*.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (eXA4G)

149 JJ, I feel for you. I too, suffer from allergies. I've tried every allergy medication under the sun and they just don't work.

Oh well at least I keep Kleenex in business.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (WEBkv)

150
Did you give him a list of demands that must be met first? And did you put "no green M&Ms" in there somewhere to be sure he actually was paying attention?

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:33 AM (U5tDi)

He has a good heart, tolorates my daughter.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (9MKXa)

151 Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 08:25 AM (Z4rgH)

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Thanks! What a BS story- she's trying to spin what is essentially a no Indian contribution, with the invetigation done by a political supporter no doubt, into a "proven" ancestor, just six or so generations back.


Warren is desperate.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:35 AM (Z216Q)

152
1600 foreign invaders are on the march to the US border right now.

That ought to to help Democrats...

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (4m/SK)

153
Oh well at least I keep Kleenex in business.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman


I have to use paper towels. Never send boys to do a man's job.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (LsBY9)

154 I was listening to NPR Saturday evening. OMG are those people ever obsessed with race. OBSESSED.

Some panel of NPR's music director, some lady from HuffPo, and some lady from some other leftist organization (balance! and I think all people of color!) were talking about Kanye and his appearance with Trump.

DANGEROUS! Trump is known for his racist comments and actions! Pretty sure Kanye is mentally ill.

Switch to Taylor Swift. Well, artists hold a lot of sway, and they have first amendment rights! (no irony noted at all) Biggest concern was that apparently 4chan thought that Swift's earlier reluctance to be political meant that she was their "Aryan queen," and now that she came out supporting Democrats, their spirit is dashed.

And then a piece about POC adopted by wypipo and how that was a huge disservice to the adopted POCs.

Not ONE of the POCs interviewed expressed any gratitude for having been adopted.

I am sure their parents were, well, proud.

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (VhKw6)

155 146 You bring up an interesting point which I had planned on doing a post about. To wit, how are we to fight an opponent who has zero respect for the rule of law and our Constitution (and increasingly the sanctity of life and property) because they seek to overthrow it, by relying on those institutions with which to fight that battle?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (/9p9e)

==============

In a way, it's a form of insurrection.

I don't mean to say that anytime people don't support or anytime someone voices opposition to policies that I support, they should be classified as insurrectionists, but I think this might be going beyond normal civil disobedience and objection.

In the face of insurrection, the government is granted extra powers...

It's what made a lot of Lincoln's actions questionable instead of outright illegal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (elLTo)

156 Daughter's boyfriends parents
He actually ask for my permission last night. LOL.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM


What did you reply?

I went through that and basically said, 'This is America, my daughter gets to decide. I have no say in the matter.'

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (URwyc)

157 PDT Spars with 60 Minutes on "Manmade" Climate Change

Isn't it unconstitutional for the President to attack the MFM's religious beliefs?

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (59GGI)

158 i always flush twice, just be sure. can't be too careful.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2018 08:16 AM


And the Postman always rings twice.

Say, have I told you my father was a mailman?

Would you like to know more?

Posted by: John Kasich at October 15, 2018 08:37 AM (ctuyM)

159 140 Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:33 AM (y7DUB)


I don't recall that but, whatever. I believe in due process for anyone and everyone, even those whom I abhor.

Onward.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:37 AM (/9p9e)

160 He has a good heart, tolorates my daughter.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (9MKXa)
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Well then he sounds like a fine man. Congratulations. When's the wedding, and are we all invited? Need us to help you plan it? Because you know we would make it a good time.

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 08:37 AM (U5tDi)

161 You bring up an interesting point which I had planned on doing a post about. To wit, how are we to fight an opponent who has zero respect for the rule of law and our Constitution (and increasingly the sanctity of life and property) because they seek to overthrow it, by relying on those institutions with which to fight that battle?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (/9p9e)
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The reason these people have no respect for the law is due to not ever having suffered any consequences for their actions.

Toss these miscreants in PMITA prison and they'll probably develop a wholesome respect for the law. Bonus, if they're unemployable after release, they'll be living on the streets as an example to the rest of the idiots.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:37 AM (WEBkv)

162 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (ZQfW9)

163 147 I had to change a main character's name yesterday.

I'd called him Chuck since before I started writing, and then my mother says, "Is Chuck period appropriate for mid to late 19th Century?"

I looked, and no, it's not.

Ugh...so I changed it to Cort, short for Cortland.

I don't like it as much, but that may just be sentimentality.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (elLTo)

Adam Baldwin is disappoint.

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (VhKw6)

164

Harvard University: We don't discriminate based on race, we select people for diversity based on ethnicity.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (4m/SK)

165 Congratulations NGU! Happy days ahead!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (Z216Q)

166 What did you reply?

I went through that and basically said, 'This is America, my daughter gets to decide. I have no say in the matter.'
Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (URwyc)

Put my hands up like I was washing them and said "She's all yours" LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (9MKXa)

167 Warren's DNA test. What does it matter? According to the left wing nut jobs all you need is to self-identify as whatever you want to be. And don't you dare question a left wing woman!

Posted by: Case, who ponders the neon Red Pegasus atop the Magnolia Building at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (XWvgx)

168 Test

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (cqNba)

169

Oops.

Guess I will have that second cuppa in the barrel.

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (VhKw6)

170 "FBI Has Evidence That 'Directly Refutes' Premise Of Trump-Russia Probe, GOP Rep Says" ---


How come we tax-paying citizens never get to see all this Trump-clearing stuff? Are the GOP congresscritters always lying?

I'm thinking that one reason Mueller's witch hunt may never end is so that evidence that would clear Trump, Flynn, etc. can be held from the public because there's an "on-going investigation."

Maybe that's one of the reasons, or the main reason, PDT was convinced to pull back on releasing the un-redacted FISA warrants? DoJ rules on releasing on-going investigation info, versus claims from the MFM and Dems and maybe Mueller about obstruction of Justice?

Posted by: Gref at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (AMIL/)

171 Oh shit...

The Italicans are here!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (cqNba)

172 149 JJ, I feel for you. I too, suffer from allergies. I've tried every allergy medication under the sun and they just don't work.

Oh well at least I keep Kleenex in business.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (WEBkv)


I've been going to an allergist for 7 years. And while I am much better than I used to be, this attack is really bad and totally out of the blue.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (/9p9e)

173
Heh. Blaster to da Barrel.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (eXA4G)

174 blaster, c'mon on up!

Posted by: The Barrel at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (ctuyM)

175 161; nope, they will be chancellors at our finest universities. they have street cred.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (KP5rU)

176 Florida- what the hell? Gillum? really?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (VpIIl)

177 I have to use paper towels. Never send boys to do a man's job.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM (LsBY9)
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Workbench. They do double duty.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (WEBkv)

178 Guess I will have that second cuppa in the barrel.
Posted by: blaster

Do NOT put the "cream" in your coffee

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (8ikIW)

179 164 Harvard University: We don't discriminate based on race, we select people for diversity based on ethnicity.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (4m/SK


"I don't judge a person on the basis of skin color. I judge him by the size of his nostrils and lips."

- - Chevy Chase, Weekend Update 1976

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (/9p9e)

180 EPIC debate tonight in AZ.


If MCSally doesn't curb stomp Sinema at the opening bell, she deserves to lose.

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (MAstk)

181 If MCSally doesn't curb stomp Sinema at the opening bell, she deserves to lose.

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (MAstk)


She needs to go full Great Santini.

MAKE WAY FOR A FIGHTER PILOT!

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2018 08:41 AM (VhKw6)

182 PDT Spars with 60 Minutes on "Manmade" Climate Change



Isn't it unconstitutional for the President to attack the MFM's religious beliefs?



Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 08:36 AM

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He smacked them down on global warming so hard that they are reporting that Trump has backtracked on his claim that global warming is a hoax.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2018 08:41 AM (JUOKG)

183 When my now SIL asked my permission I thanked him for being respectful. But I also made certain he understood we take marriage seriously in our house: Once I get my two cows we are done. No refunds.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:41 AM (Z216Q)

184 146 You bring up an interesting point which I had planned on doing a
post about. To wit, how are we to fight an opponent who has zero respect
for the rule of law and our Constitution (and increasingly the sanctity
of life and property) because they seek to overthrow it, by relying on
those institutions with which to fight that battle?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (/9p9e)



You realize of course that the BOR, except where specifically mentioned as applicable to the States originally only applied to the Federal Government. In point of fact, the federal government since the 60s has been overthrowing the States who the founders intended to have the most power in government.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:42 AM (mpXpK)

185 I wonder how much of '23 and Me's' 'genetic testing' is actually done by data mining census records/etc.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:42 AM (oVJmc)

186 Rutgers is also a pretty good law school, I believe, but it matters not. These are all pretty good schools. The real point here, and it shouldn't get lost in irrelevancies, is that she was hired specifically (and only) because she claimed Native American blood and Harvard, who never checked because quotas are stupid anyway, was happy to spout off about it afterwards.
_______________

It's not really an irrelevancy. Harvard typically hires only graduates from top tier law schools (the top 10 in the nation), and Rutgers is certainly not on that list. In fact, when Warren graduated from it, Rutgers was a very poorly rated law school.

Harvard made an exception for Warren, an exception that it would not have made for any other Rutgers graduate, because Harvard wanted Warren's "Native American" status to boost its Affirmative Action hiring stats.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (fqUgw)

187 183 When my now SIL asked my permission I thanked him for being respectful. But I also made certain he understood we take marriage seriously in our house: Once I get my two cows we are done. No refunds.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:41 AM (Z216Q)


"I know, right?!"

- - Lazar Wolf, Anatevka resident

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (/9p9e)

188 So, a Washington Post columnist was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and has connections to Osama Bin Laden and the mullahs in Iran?

Did anyone know that prior to this incident? Anyone at the WP or CNN or NBC or the NYT?

I think that's kind of important to put in the identifier of a correspondent.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (vbJig)

189 LOL. My sister wanted me to submit to the Ancestry DNA test. I did it. After spending over $100, we found out...(drum roll please) we are descended from English immigrants.

Posted by: JAS at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (3HNOQ)

190 I had to change a main character's name yesterday.

I'd called him Chuck since before I started writing, and then my mother says, "Is Chuck period appropriate for mid to late 19th Century?"

I looked, and no, it's not.

Ugh...so I changed it to Cort, short for Cortland.

I don't like it as much, but that may just be sentimentality.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


I say old man, good show! Good show!
Posted by: Cortland Buckminster VI

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (8sd9V)

191 I know plenty of very smart kids turned don by Harvard. They were all too white.

I believe the plaintiffs estimated what the student body at Harvard would look like if they dropped race as a criteria. The biggest beneficiary, meaning those discriminated against most, was Whitey.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (VpIIl)

192 180 EPIC debate tonight in AZ.


If MCSally doesn't curb stomp Sinema at the opening bell, she deserves to lose.
Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 08:40 AM (MAstk)

============

People make too much of "owning" in debates.

Trump didn't do great in his against Hillary, but here we are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 08:43 AM (elLTo)

193 I've been going to an allergist for 7 years. And while I am much better than I used to be, this attack is really bad and totally out of the blue.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (/9p9e)
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Yep, been there done that.

I did the allergist thing as a youngster and as I got older, I got tired of it. Last time I had a scratch test on my back, (never has rubbing alcohol on a bunch of scratches felt so good) I told the gal they were better off listing what I wasn't allergic too.

They didn't take me seriously until after the test was done. It was pretty funny.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:44 AM (WEBkv)

194 Worst attack I've had in ages. Weirder still since I've been going to an allergist for over 7 years already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (/9p9e)

Change in weather... hot humid southwest flow keeps pollen mold spores grounded, that dry canadian air mass makes it go airborne.

Posted by: BluesFish at October 15, 2018 08:44 AM (ue9Y0)

195 Good Morning Ya'll, I am with JJ on the allergy thing.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 15, 2018 08:44 AM (YuQLm)

196 >>Maybe that's one of the reasons, or the main reason, PDT was convinced to pull back on releasing the un-redacted FISA warrants? DoJ rules on releasing on-going investigation info, versus claims from the MFM and Dems and maybe Mueller about obstruction of Justice?

There is an ongoing criminal investigation and has been for a long time. But there are also other concerns.

Remember when Trump said allies had asked him not to release the FISA applications? As I mentioned above, Papadopolous has been very chatty lately.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 08:45 AM (/tuJf)

197 That was a nice prayer that Pastor Brunson said on behalf of Trump and a humble thing that the pastor knelt to pray. Brunson obviously thought about it beforehand as he was reading it from a card. Brunson looks thin; I expect he was mistreated in prison. Trump sounded like he appreciated the prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (AllCR)

198 Feel better Mr. Sefton. Godspeed your recovery. Honey in hot steaming water with maybe a mint leaf or two should help.

Posted by: LWC at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (G8lfi)

199 "I've been going to an allergist for 7 years. And while I am much better
than I used to be, this attack is really bad and totally out of the
blue. "

Get out of New York. Eat more smoked salmon and Omega 3's.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (VpIIl)

200 I had to change a main character's name yesterday.

In my perpetually-unfinished novel, the main character, I found, has the same name as a two-bit hood who used to run with Bonnie and Clyde.

After much deliberation, I decided to leave it, since very few people would know and there is no connection other than the random coincidence. That, and I don't feel like changing to preserve the name of a two-bit hood.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (oVJmc)

201
When can we stop pretending we give a shit about some left wing muslim getting shredded by other muslims.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (4m/SK)

202 J.J.

One of those two chamber motorized Netti Pot kind of gizmos?

Maybe help flush some of the crap out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM (cqNba)

203 Honey in hot steaming water with maybe a mint leaf or two should help.
Posted by: LWC at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM


This!

Posted by: Gwenyth P., Goop Spokesperson at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM (ctuyM)

204 More Noos; today is Monday, October 15, 2018. On this day in 1951 I Love Lucy, starring Lucille Ball, started on CBS. The original show aired for 7 seasons but some form of 'The Lucy Show' aired until 1986. I never did like any of her shows and did not like her version of slapstick comedy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM (mpXpK)

205 mr. sefton: it may be because the north east (incl. ny) has had one of the wettest summers on record.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM (Pg+x7)

206 Sears gets some help from a few banks and files for Chapter 11 instead of completely folding and closing its doors.


http://tinyurl.com/y7unyc4e

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (mpXpK)

207 In point of fact, the federal government since the 60s has been overthrowing the States who the founders intended to have the most power in government.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:42 AM (mpXpK)


Yes to this. Too bad the state indoctrination extended daycare centers don't stress this with their propaganda.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (y7DUB)

208

Big pig in CA likes Doritos. Who in the world would want to keep a pig this big in a residential neighborhood? He could not do that here because it is a violation of county zoning laws.


http://tinyurl.com/y9cy5maw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (mpXpK)

209 This!
Posted by: Gwenyth P., Goop

JJ is gonna steam his HooHaa?

Oh boy, this is going to be great!!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (8ikIW)

210 Funny thing is the Washington Post had a guy (Phillip Bump) write this in July of 2015:

"As you know, she's not Native American," Brown said on a conference call, according to our Dave Weigel. But he did offer some ways that Warren might prove him wrong: "Harvard can release the records, she can authorize the release of those records, or she can take a DNA test."

To which my response was: Can she? Would a DNA test actually answer that question?

No.


Today they write:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage

Funny thing is they make no mention of the earlier column.

*scratches head*

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (sM+h7)

211 I'm trying to be kind to animals. But there is a fox that for the last two nights at 2:30am seems to think it's a good idea to call for a mate right outside my window. Anyone who has ever heard a fox "scream" knows exactly what I am talking about.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (VpIIl)

212 Trump talks about Matis.


http://tinyurl.com/y8hjlj52

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:48 AM (mpXpK)

213
I've been going to an allergist for 7 years. And while I am much better
than I used to be, this attack is really bad and totally out of the
blue.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (/9p9e)

--------------------



Yep, been there done that.



I did the allergist thing as a youngster and as I got older, I got
tired of it. Last time I had a scratch test on my back, (never has
rubbing alcohol on a bunch of scratches felt so good) I told the gal
they were better off listing what I wasn't allergic too.



They didn't take me seriously until after the test was done. It was pretty funny.



Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:44 AM

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We had those tests done on my dog when she was having skin issues. They all came back positive. $10,000 and a year later the Doggy Dermatologist recommended that we repeat the entire course of treatment because nothing they did worked on her.


We bailed on that and our local vet suggested 4 baths weekly two with coal tar shampoo followed by two more with medicated shampoo and she got better in a month.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (JUOKG)

214 Far left think tanks are advising Democrats running for reelection in 2018 to not speak about the Democrats advocacy for open borders and amnesty which are not popular with voters.


http://tinyurl.com/ybvp6h5s

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (mpXpK)

215 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/yb2lrfc3



And finally, as expected my Dawgs fall in the ratings and LSU moves up after beating the Dawgs.


http://tinyurl.com/hxag556


And that's it for today. Really slow today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (mpXpK)

216 205 mr. sefton: it may be because the north east (incl. ny) has had one of the wettest summers on record.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM (Pg+x7)


Could be. Allergist warned me that even though I am getting shots, the vagaries of hay fever season might still cause a reaction now and then.

They've been under control for a while but still, every now and then, blammo. Like yesterday. Of course, the kitties don't help...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (/9p9e)

217 When can we stop pretending we give a shit about some left wing muslim getting shredded by other muslims.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (4m/SK)


The MSM cares about him as much as they cared about disappeared "agricultural reformers" back in the 1970's-1980's. They were discarded and forgotten as soon as they ceased to be useful to bash the US government about, and this guy will be treated no differently.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - No Consigliere? Can't Nuke From Orbit? Restock Your Cliches at The Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (hLRSq)

218 McCarthy is the scum that floats on the swamp. He is not to be trusted. Ever.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (r9UYA)

219 G'morning, Horde.

So, looks like I'll be scratching Portland, OR off my list of places to visit during the remains of my earthly sojourn.

(checks said list, notes that Portland, OR is NOT on said list, puts list away)

I see a whole lot of people putting a whole lot of weight into "debates" lately. We'll all recall with horror how badly Rmoney slapped-around the milk-chocolate messiah in the first 2012 debate, right? And yeah, we all recall how he got sandbagged by Fat Candy in the second and essentially mailed-in the 3rd, but it really wouldn't have mattered in any case.

It's all about ground-game now in OH, IN, MT, AZ, NV and the rest of the places that matter.

RCP still has the Senate at 50R / 44D with AZ, FL, IN, MO, MT and NV as Toss-ups. OH, PA and MI still listed as "Safe D" (gags) and NJ, WI and WV in addition to MN2 listed as "Lean D" (spits).

Posted by: DocJ at October 15, 2018 08:50 AM (NYS7S)

220 "Read the comments on a yahoo article about Trump's rallies.



Thousands and thousands of people waiting hours and hours to see him and the top comments?




Posted by: Dr. RoyalOil"


I saw some lefties one site claiming the long lines at the rallies are people paid to stand there for the cameras. They were convinced of this delusion and actually thought hey were rather smart for not being fooled.

Posted by: Ripley at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (MxEKc)

221 200 I had to change a main character's name yesterday.

In my perpetually-unfinished novel, the main character, I found, has the same name as a two-bit hood who used to run with Bonnie and Clyde.

After much deliberation, I decided to leave it, since very few people would know and there is no connection other than the random coincidence. That, and I don't feel like changing to preserve the name of a two-bit hood.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 08:46 AM (oVJmc)

==============

I brought that exact concern up to my mother.

I have another character named John Starbuck, who's supposed to resemble Moby Dick physically, but acts a bit like Ahab.

It's a hodgepodge of images and intent that I didn't think through well enough when I originally planned it out.

My mother's response? "I didn't notice. You can probably just keep it."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (elLTo)

222 I go to Portland often, even before mom moved there 15 years ago, I used to go for work.

The Portanders are as smug and sanctimonious as San Franciscans, but they do have more piercings.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (EZebt)

223 "More Noos; today is Monday, October 15, 2018. On this day in 1951 I Love
Lucy, starring Lucille Ball, started on CBS. The original show aired
for 7 seasons but some form of 'The Lucy Show' aired until 1986. I never
did like any of her shows and did not like her version of slapstick
comedy."

Well her nude photos were pretty good though.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (VpIIl)

224 49 If your side is wearing masks, then you are not the good guys
Posted by: BigZesty at October 15, 2018 08:10 AM (hJn/J)

Fine. Call someone else to save you from the Joker.

Posted by: Batman at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (7HtZB)

225 >>The MSM cares about him as much as they cared about disappeared "agricultural reformers" back in the 1970's-1980's. They were discarded and forgotten as soon as they ceased to be useful to bash the US government about, and this guy will be treated no differently.

Trump just tweeted a couple minutes ago that he just spoke with the King of SA and they continue to completely deny any involvement. Trump is sending Pompeo to meet with the King.

I don't think he will let them forget about it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (/tuJf)

226 I never did like any of her shows and did not like her version of slapstick
comedy.

Never a fan of the show

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 08:52 AM (8ikIW)

227 222 I go to Portland often, even before mom moved there 15 years ago, I used to go for work.

The Portanders are as smug and sanctimonious as San Franciscans, but they do have more piercings.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2018 08:51 AM (EZebt)


Less body. More Franklin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:53 AM (/9p9e)

228 They've been under control for a while but still, every now and then, blammo. Like yesterday. Of course, the kitties don't help...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (/9p9e)
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Yeah, I shouldn't be around dogs, but, we won't be without them.

Hate those sudden allergy attacks that come out of nowhere. Absolutely miserable.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 15, 2018 08:53 AM (WEBkv)

229 Why would the Saudi's kill this guy in their own consulate and not in an alley somewhere? Seems counter productive.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:54 AM (r9UYA)

230 On a positive note, going to go see Tower of Power tonight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:54 AM (/9p9e)

231 >>Why would the Saudi's kill this guy in their own consulate and not in an alley somewhere? Seems counter productive.

An obvious question our media never seems to get around to asking.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 08:55 AM (/tuJf)

232 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage


I'm amazed that her publicly released DNA test does not also "suggest" she has distant Negro and Hawaiian ancestors! Fill-in as many minority boxes as you can, Lizzy! No one can challenge "science" data, right?

Posted by: Gref at October 15, 2018 08:55 AM (AMIL/)

233 230 On a positive note, going to go see Tower of Power tonight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:54 AM (/9p9e)

Niiiiiiiiice, JJS. Enjoy - as I know you will.

Posted by: DocJ at October 15, 2018 08:55 AM (NYS7S)

234

Now it's Settled Science!

She IS an indian and it IS racist to mock her.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 08:55 AM (4m/SK)

235 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor,


That suggests. That's it? Sorry.

Unless we are going to start incarcerating people on crime scene DNA "that suggests" they were there....

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 08:56 AM (8sd9V)

236 Portland makes a good cement....rowdy bodies Hmmm
maybe the twain should meet Capice?

Posted by: saf at October 15, 2018 08:56 AM (5IHGB)

237 GOP has 31k ballot lead in FL early vote by mail.

In person early voting begins next week.

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 08:56 AM (MAstk)

238 218
McCarthy is the scum that floats on the swamp. He is not to be trusted. Ever.



Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:49 AM (r9UYA)

DIABLO, CR rating of 36.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (mpXpK)

239 167
Warren's DNA test. What does it matter? According to the left wing nut
jobs all you need is to self-identify as whatever you want to be. And
don't you dare question a left wing woman!

Posted by: Case, who ponders the neon Red Pegasus atop the Magnolia Building at October 15, 2018 08:38 AM (XWvgx)

Wouldn't it be funny if Warrens's DNA test came back and she was a direct descendant of the Queen of an African Matriarchy that bowed to no man, like on that new DNA testing commercial. So much politics in that one.


These DNA testing companies are selling fantasies to people, in exchange for the ultimate snoop on the population. Pretty soon it will be like a Washington Slept Here sign on ever BB in New England through Virginia. Everyone is related to royalty; or whoever it would be to make a good story.

Imagine you Obamacare insurance rates tied to you predisposition on cancers and such.

Ma'am, you according to our records, you have a 75% chance of breast cancer. Double mastectomy for you now to save us money later. Thank you very much.





Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (ymnmz)

240 That's a startling picture of the Chinese destroyer sailing very close to the American USS Decatur ('Bolton Warns Chinese").

Good for the Navy- keeping sea lanes open (especially that one, through which so much trade flows) is the traditional first task of a Navy in peacetime.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (Z216Q)

241 Why would the Saudi's kill this guy in their own consulate and not in an alley somewhere? Seems counter productive.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:54 AM (r9UYA)

Probably were going to subdue him and kidnap him back to SA, but the asshole died on them. Shit happens

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (9MKXa)

242 J.J.

Maybe this?

https://tinyurl.com/yc9od8fa



Looks are like a 'Home Waterboarding' kit though.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (cqNba)

243 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage

"Extraordinary Effort"? What, it's hard for a Senator to send-away for a 23&Me test. Which, of course, are never, ever wrong, right?

Posted by: DocJ at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (NYS7S)

244 >>An obvious question our media never seems to get around to asking.

Sounds like a Deep State hit to cause turmoil in SA and Turkey but, what do I know?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (r9UYA)

245 Not that I'm advocating violence, but since those antifa pussies wear masks and a black outfits, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of patriotic Americans went out and put on similar black outfits and blended in with the Portland pussies, and beat the living shit out of them?

I mean, they would have to have some distinguishing aspect to their black uniform, so they don't beat the hell out of themselves.

But what the hell?

In the end, the antifa people would need to provide a description of the attackers to the police, whom they consider to be fascist pigs, and they would say, "Well, you fascist pig, they were wearing black, you fascist pig, and carrying clubs, you fascist pig, now go arrest them and protect us, you fascist pig."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (vbJig)

246 Daughter's boyfriends parents
He actually ask for my permission last night. LOL.

Posted by: Nevergiveup


Thank you for clearing that up.

And best of luck to the future newlyweds.

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 08:59 AM (QYAhh)

247 I saw some lefties one site claiming the long lines at the rallies are people paid to stand there for the cameras.

Posted by: Ripley


Projection.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 08:59 AM (8sd9V)

248 >>Sounds like a Deep State hit to cause turmoil in SA and Turkey but, what do I know?

Or maybe just the Turkey, Iran, Russia axis doing what they do. We are fighting a proxy war against them and supporting the Saudis even if it doesn't get much ink.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 08:59 AM (/tuJf)

249 I will hastily assume "plotz" is code for "shit, shower, and shave".

Posted by: Jabroni at October 15, 2018 09:00 AM (ZkXzk)

250 The IBD editorial on replacing ObamaCare with a plan that will truly reduce insurance costs to average Americans is well worth the read, and I hope Republicans adopt something along those lines in campaigning. It's the only issue Democrats seem to be leading on, and this sort of approach might well appeal to voters.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 09:00 AM (Z216Q)

251 235
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor,





That suggests. That's it? Sorry.



Unless we are going to start incarcerating people on crime scene DNA "that suggests" they were there....

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 08:56 AM (8sd9V)


Of course she did.
I saw on a commercial that could nail a DNA test back 1000 years ago to a secret Afircan matriarchy liek baller slam dunk.
But 120 years ago with a suggestion?????

It probably went somethign like this...... "Hello 23 and Me? Senator Warren has a suggestion on the viability of your company and the outcome of her DNA test."


Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 15, 2018 09:00 AM (ymnmz)

252 229 Why would the Saudi's kill this guy in their own consulate and not in an alley somewhere? Seems counter productive.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 08:54 AM (r9UYA)
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Because the embassy is Saudi soil.

Posted by: bluebell at October 15, 2018 09:01 AM (U5tDi)

253 I saw a comic KFC ad that said Taylor Swift special:

2 Bony Thighs

2 Small Breasts

And One Left Wing

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 09:01 AM (QYAhh)

254 243 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage

She went down to Foxwoods casino and had some alcoholic night watchman swab his cheek and submitted it as her own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2018 09:01 AM (vbJig)

255 BEST Portland tourism video, ever.


https://twitter.com/RealVinceJames/status/1051189442570944512/video/1

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:01 AM (MAstk)

256 The kooks at ZH printed another article, probably authored by the GRU, claiming the CIA was behind 9/11, and conspired with the Saudis use the hijackers as proxy to start the war. Honestly that's it for me. It/s not even worth the financial news anymore.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:02 AM (VpIIl)

257

So they said how do we get that Trump to stop mocking my fake indianness?

And they decided to CONSPIRE to fake a dna test.

That's what they did.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:03 AM (4m/SK)

258 highlights of the Trump 60 Minutes interview were 1. when asked if he had any regrets, he said he regretted the media's behavior. I thought Stahl was going to choke. 2. then when he told her he won.

never apologized. eat shit reporterette.

Posted by: x at October 15, 2018 09:03 AM (nFwvY)

259 Daughter's boyfriends parents
He actually ask for my permission last night. LOL.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2018 08:32 AM (9MKXa)

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Mazel tov! I hope you like him and are happy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2018 09:03 AM (EZebt)

260
She took a dna test, my ass.

There was no test.

This is as fake as the Frau Fraud conspiracy against Kavanaugh.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:04 AM (4m/SK)

261 How many people in this country could claim an injun ancestor within 6-10 generations?

Probably almost all, me included.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:04 AM (oVJmc)

262 249 I will hastily assume "plotz" is code for "shit, shower, and shave".

Posted by: Jabroni at October 15, 2018 09:00 AM (ZkXzk)

It's not the 3S Protocol, it's faceplanting, crashing, or otherwise ceasing to function.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 15, 2018 09:05 AM (J+mig)

263 WaPo column was in July of 2016, not 2015.
Stupid sausage fingers.

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 09:05 AM (sM+h7)

264 Hey, Ben Had, have you ever had any Rumble from Balcones Distillery?

I bought a little flask, maybe I'll bring some up so you can try it. It's a honey whiskey, very addicting.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (81OU+)

265 253, JT : that is so funny..thanks for the laugh early in the morning.

Posted by: IC at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (4lu7W)

266 261 How many people in this country could claim an injun ancestor within 6-10 generations?

Probably almost all, me included.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:04 AM (oVJmc)


I have more Spanish blood in me than that shrill, shrieking shrew has Indian blood for sure. And I'm half Hungarian half Ukie/Litvack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (/9p9e)

267 261
How many people in this country could claim an injun ancestor within 6-10 generations?

Probably almost all, me included.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:04 AM (oVJmc)

I have one within 3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

268 The Dems really are the party of stupid - Hillary basically saying sexual harassment black letter law doesn't apply to Bill; Portland mayor turns town over to terrorists; McCasskill says she wants to be the Senator of St. Louis and Warren is admitting fraud on her employers at Harvard. Pretty good weekend for the good guys.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (AjNMO)

269 Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:04 AM (4m/SK)

Yup

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (MAstk)

270 Beto (Fake O) O'Rourke rides a skateboard into a Corpus Christi rally. The man is 45 years old. Why doesn't he play skateboard king on his own time?

I guess somebody thought this was a good idea for the voters with a crush on him?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (AllCR)

271

What does that come out to in fractions??

Someone do the math, please.


1/64th??

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:06 AM (4m/SK)

272 I have an ex-hippie bro-in-law in Portland. They're all leftists there, especially the ones with money. NO national guard, if ever there were a case for Let It Burn, this is it.

Let Portland Burn. If anyone ever deserved to get a good hard dose of what they've been asking for for years, Portland does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (V2Yro)

273 BEST Portland tourism video, ever.

Wow, who's the photog waving the handgun around?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (oVJmc)

274 MILs hip replacement went well. Very thankful. Now to get her two sons to visit her seems the big deal.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (2LelM)

275 "ll play the game that she took a DNA test.

Did the results say she was white or "suggest" it?

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (MAstk)

276 the main problem with warren claiming indian ancestry is she used that to game the affirmative action system to get hired. last year harvard reported they looked into it and concluded she didn't. but the evidence as i recall it was pretty strong harvard promoted her as an indian for several years. whether she has 1/32 indian blood (sp?) is irrelevant as far as i'm concerned.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (Pg+x7)

277 You bring up an interesting point which I had planned on doing a post about. To wit, how are we to fight an opponent who has zero respect for the rule of law and our Constitution (and increasingly the sanctity of life and property) because they seek to overthrow it, by relying on those institutions with which to fight that battle?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 08:34 AM (/9p9e)

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Say, what now?

Posted by: General Sukarno at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (EZebt)

278 >>Because the embassy is Saudi soil.

And thus covered with security cameras, both the Saudis and the Turks which is why the Turks are claiming he went into the embassy and never left.

If they wanted to whack him why not just do it where nobody was watching?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (/tuJf)

279 275 "ll play the game that she took a DNA test.

Did the results say she was white or "suggest" it?
Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (MAstk)


Let's see the results. Meh, they're with Obama's transcripts and Khalidi tape.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (/9p9e)

280 ... we're americans, we're mutts.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (Pg+x7)

281 272 I have an ex-hippie bro-in-law in Portland. They're all leftists there, especially the ones with money. NO national guard, if ever there were a case for Let It Burn, this is it.

Let Portland Burn. If anyone ever deserved to get a good hard dose of what they've been asking for for years, Portland does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2018 09:07 AM (V2Yro)

===============

*Tom Servo's ex-hippie bro-in-law in Portland looks up from the ruins of his city, covered in ash and blood.*

"I wonder why that happened? Oh well, I'm moving to Texas!"

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282 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 09:08 AM (/9p9e)

#BELIEVEALLWOMEN

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:09 AM (MAstk)

283 The original show aired for 7 seasons but some form of 'The Lucy Show' aired until 1986. I never did like any of her shows and did not like her version of slapstick comedy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM


On the other hand, she is a genuine ginger.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:11 AM (ctuyM)

284 283 The original show aired for 7 seasons but some form of 'The Lucy Show' aired until 1986. I never did like any of her shows and did not like her version of slapstick comedy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 08:47 AM

On the other hand, she is a genuine ginger.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:11 AM (ctuyM)

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We all know that Lucy was just too young for Vic.

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285 258 highlights of the Trump 60 Minutes interview were 1. when asked if he had any regrets, he said he regretted the media's behavior. I thought Stahl was going to choke. 2. then when he told her he won.

never apologized. eat shit reporterette.
Posted by: x at October 15, 2018 09:03 AM (nFwvY)
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I tried to tell Mrs. WishRich and kids that no reporter would dare be that combative with a Democratic President....ever.

Posted by: WisRich at October 15, 2018 09:12 AM (G0vdT)

286 Everyone from everywhere on the planet is mutts.

The Brits are mutts from Vikings, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Celts, Picts. The Slavs, Romanis, Bulgars. All of the Asian countries are mutts. Turkey has the most mutts. Africans are mutts from Europe and Asia and north and south African.

We're all mutts.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2018 09:12 AM (vbJig)

287 Prospective Son-In-Law: Well, sir, I love your daughter. If you let me marry her, I promise I'll always treat her with love and respect. What do you say?

NGU: If.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 15, 2018 09:12 AM (KUaJL)

288 Clarification on Fauxcahontas statement - she did NOT "release a test". She releases a statement from a statistical analyst who she paid very well to look at some supposed test and statistically say that he was of the opinion that she may have had an Injun Ancestor. But no one gets to see the actual "test" except the two of them.

Everyone who's ever sent off to 23 and me or any of the similar outfits knows that you get a page that shows your purported ancestry from various world regions. Pretty obvious that she did that and the "Test" came up with Zero for her, which is why she's had to hide the test and bring out some well paid "analyst" to say that the test really said "yes" although if you, you stupid person, were allowed to look at it you would stupidly think it said "no".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2018 09:13 AM (V2Yro)

289 Finding fresh thoughts and wisdom versus talking points and repetitiveness is difficult.

When two forward thinkers collide...

Capitalism vs. socialism: economist George Gilder weighs in

'Life after Google' author George Gilder explains the role of creativity in capitalism as he shares economic insight on 'Life, Liberty and Levin.'


https://tinyurl.com/yapgcnfm

Outstanding snippet from this weekend's show.
Really worth a watch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2018 09:13 AM (2I4LM)

290 "I wonder why that happened? Oh well, I'm moving to Texas!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:09 AM


More succinctly:

"You can all go to hell. I'm going to Texas."
-- Davy Crockett

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:13 AM (ctuyM)

291
Joey "slow-hand-gentle-touch" Bidet leads the 2020 Dem Prexy pack?

Ha.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 15, 2018 09:13 AM (/9p9e)

292 I feel sorry for the law-abiding citizens of Portland, but this seems a perfect situation to test the "No Duty To Protect" theory of the Police Establishment!

"Let It Burn" as an object lesson to others!

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:14 AM (n9EOP)

293 288 Clarification on Fauxcahontas statement - she did NOT "release a test". She releases a statement from a statistical analyst who she paid very well to look at some supposed test and statistically say that he was of the opinion that she may have had an Injun Ancestor. But no one gets to see the actual "test" except the two of them.

Everyone who's ever sent off to 23 and me or any of the similar outfits knows that you get a page that shows your purported ancestry from various world regions. Pretty obvious that she did that and the "Test" came up with Zero for her, which is why she's had to hide the test and bring out some well paid "analyst" to say that the test really said "yes" although if you, you stupid person, were allowed to look at it you would stupidly think it said "no".
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2018 09:13 AM (V2Yro)

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I bet it was the .2% thing.

23andMe sent me a follow up on my initial test that went from 0% African to .2%.

What does that mean? Damned if I know, and I have a Master's in Statistics.

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294 283 On the other hand, she is a genuine ginger.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:11 AM (ctuyM)

But you could not tell that in the 50s with BnW TV.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:14 AM (mpXpK)

295 Saw a 2006 Dem poll for 2008.

HRC was at 38% and Obama was't even listed.

Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM (MAstk)

296 so Warren released her DNA record the same way Kerry released his military record. she didn't. but a flunky says it says what she says it says.

Posted by: x at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM (nFwvY)

297 Prospective Son-In-Law: Well, sir, I love your daughter. If you let me marry her, I promise I'll always treat her with love and respect. What do you say?

NGU: If.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 15, 2018 09:12 AM (KUaJL)


That rings so true!

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM (n9EOP)

298 Trump called Warren's claim bogus based on one of the preeminent Native American genealogists calling her claims bullshit.

When Warren could not prove her claim through genealogy, she went the bogus DNA route.

Tell me who in your family was injected by a Native, honey.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM (tK7Y2)

299 295 Saw a 2006 Dem poll for 2008.

HRC was at 38% and Obama was't even listed.
Posted by: HA at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM (MAstk)

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So, you're saying that Obama has no chance...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:16 AM (elLTo)

300 The Slimes concern trolls are concerned about Beto's fund raising:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybhpt3mg

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:16 AM (ctuyM)

301 Don't you have to be 1/4th Native American to qualify for native status, i.e. money? Also, doesn't that particular tribe have to verify you?


Why would Harvard list her as a minority hire? Going back 6 POSSIBLE generations doesn't put her in minority. She never lived her life as a minority. She's white. Everyone knows she's white. She scammed the system.


Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 09:16 AM (lwiT4)

302 I believe that aposter above suggested that there was some pushback to the situation in Portland. Where is that noted?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (AllCR)

303 23andMe sent me a follow up on my initial test that went from 0% African to .2%.

What does that mean? Damned if I know, and I have a Master's in Statistics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:14 AM (elLTo)


Statistically, does that mean you qualify for the one drop preferences?

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (n9EOP)

304 What I saw re: Portland - was that the fascists got the crap beat out of them by Patriotic Americans.


JJ, I'd get myself out of NYC if I were you. I saw that video of the tolerant muzzie beating the poor jew in the middle of the street in Brooklyn. No one helped him except another poor old Jew, who went he tried to help was chased away by the tolerant muzzie.


Posted by: Archer at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (gmo/4)

305 Been following this Portland thing ...

I always got the distinct impression that alot of folks - maybe not most, but alot - just didn't want to believe that Police would let this shit go on like this. They wanted to believe that there was some kind of "moral boundary" - or some shit - beyond which Police simply would not go.

Well ... I guess at this point they'll either believe their lyin' eyes or not. And for many ... it'll be not.

Just how people are. Once they're invested in the "goodness" of an individual or group - they won't go back on it come Hell or high water.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (P+Keb)

306 Maybe that's one of the reasons, or the main reason, PDT was convinced to pull back on releasing the un-redacted FISA warrants? DoJ rules on releasing on-going investigation info, versus claims from the MFM and Dems and maybe Mueller about obstruction of Justice?
Posted by: Gref at October 15, 2018 08:39 AM (AMIL/)


I still expect him to release at least some of it before the elections.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (59GGI)

307 *Tom Servo's ex-hippie bro-in-law in Portland looks up from the ruins of his city, covered in ash and blood.*

"I wonder why that happened? Oh well, I'm moving to Texas!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Sorry. Texas is closed.
Longhorn out front should have told you.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 09:18 AM (8sd9V)

308 303 23andMe sent me a follow up on my initial test that went from 0% African to .2%.

What does that mean? Damned if I know, and I have a Master's in Statistics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:14 AM (elLTo)

Statistically, does that mean you qualify for the one drop preferences?
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I was told that the one drop idea was racist by my elementary school progressive teacher. She was too extreme for any religious order and got kicked out of a convent.

If SHE told me that it was deeply racist...

That means she thinks it's totally okay now, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:18 AM (elLTo)

309 Tell me who in your family was injected by a Native, honey.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:15 AM


That is so cisheteropatriarchal! What if the ancestor was an injectee?

Posted by: AoSHQ NPC Lurker at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (ctuyM)

310
23andMe sent me a follow up on my initial test that went from 0% African to .2%.



What does that mean? Damned if I know, and I have a Master's in Statistics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:14 AM (elLTo)
It means we're messing with you James.

Posted by: Bob, NSA Bunker watching all of you at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (gmo/4)

311 Ugh...so I changed it to Cort, short for Cortland.


Cort... short for Cortland... was my little brother's arch-rival in high school. Really spoiled rich kid who got to play quarterback even though he sucked because that's how it was.

I decided to shift the focus of my work-in-progress; it's about a young warfighter stationed on a colony planet whose status is in dispute between two galactic powers who may go to war over it. But his more immediate problem is that something is murdering the colonists.

Hoping Oregon Muse will plug my new short story anthology in a future Book Thread.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (O7MnT)

312 We're all mutts.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2018 09:12 AM (vbJig)



I'm pretty sure I'm 100 percent Lapplander. Because nobody else is going up there just to have sex.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (lwiT4)

313

You hear this?

Fake News told me Jared Kuzhner didnt pay taxes for 7 years!! But it was perfectly legal!!

Fake News just wants us to know that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (4m/SK)

314 If SHE told me that it was deeply racist...

That means she thinks it's totally okay now, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:18 AM (elLTo)


The times they are a-changin'!

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (n9EOP)

315 A moron posted this helpful link yesterday (via Sharyl Atkisson) and I'll repost it, as it's a good summary of the attempted coup timeline.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycb2bl9p

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (Z216Q)

316 311
Hoping Oregon Muse will plug my new short story anthology in a future Book Thread.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (O7MnT)

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All you have to do is ask.

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317 I think you could get an interesting novel out of ANTIFA taking over Portland, but real life would probably lap you on that one.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (O7MnT)

318
One of the prettiest girls I ever dated had two injun parents. The parents were ugly as hell. She had high cheekbones and a tiny nose. More of a French look then anything, if you ask me.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (URwyc)

319 Well done David Horowitz! I just used your Discover the Networks index to read up on the National Council of Churches, and the analysis was formidable. Good to know that most of their funding comes from leftist (non-church affiliated) sources!

Posted by: Yankee Doodler at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (8Zkwa)

320 313

You hear this?

Fake News told me Jared Kuzhner didnt pay taxes for 7 years!! But it was perfectly legal!!

Fake News just wants us to know that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM (4m/SK)

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Rich people use accountants and accounting tricks (that are all okayed by the IRS) to lower their effective tax rates?

I was told that it's totally okay when John Kerry does it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:21 AM (elLTo)

321 I always got the distinct impression that alot of folks - maybe not most, but alot - just didn't want to believe that Police would let this shit go on like this. They wanted to believe that there was some kind of "moral boundary" - or some shit - beyond which Police simply would not go.

Well ... I guess at this point they'll either believe their lyin' eyes or not. And for many ... it'll be not.

Posted by: ScoggDog


I wonder how they'll square that circle?

"The police wouldn't let this happen, but there you are!"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 09:21 AM (8sd9V)

322 I'm 1/512 Cherokee, and a woman.
It's science, haters!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 15, 2018 09:21 AM (2RBkF)

323 I'm pretty sure I'm 100 percent Lapplander. Because nobody else is going up there just to have sex.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 09:19 AM


Well, how was the trip?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:21 AM (ctuyM)

324 317 I think you could get an interesting novel out of ANTIFA taking over Portland, but real life would probably lap you on that one.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (O7MnT)

===============

A poor, single mother (who's black, and possibly transgender) tries to make her way out of the city, but the racist police won't let her.

A helpful Antifa member gets her out.

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325 231 >>Why would the Saudi's kill this guy in their own consulate and not in an alley somewhere? Seems counter productive.

__________________

They reportedly tortured him before killing him. They probably didn't want to risk some bypasser hearing his screams, and whipping out their phone to take pictures. In the embassy, they were on their own turf and could take their time without worrying about unexpected interruptions.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 15, 2018 09:22 AM (fqUgw)

326 I dunno.

I thought the whole point on Warrens situation was she used a, dubious claim to gain minority preferences and college positions.

She's never rolled out anyone in her family to repeat those claims.

But yeah, some researcher states I am. I was also at one point in my lineage cro magnum.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:22 AM (tK7Y2)

327 Maybe Liz Warren will choose Beto Mohammed Malik Shabazz Loretta O'Rourke-Chung as her running mate. You know, because, 'authenticity.'

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:22 AM (O7MnT)

328 When mom forces you to have a picture:

https://tinyurl.com/yapb69zc


Cute doggie picture of the day!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:23 AM (AllCR)

329 Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (URwyc)

In my younger days, I dated a beautiful full blooded Cherokee that did some modeling. However, her parents had not aged well.

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:23 AM (n9EOP)

330 I believe that aposter above suggested that there was some pushback to the situation in Portland. Where is that noted?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM


There's a couple links after 6 am on the ONT.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:23 AM (URwyc)

331 Is it safe?

Posted by: The Saudis at October 15, 2018 09:23 AM (gmo/4)

332 322 I'm 1/512 Cherokee, and a woman.
It's science, haters!
Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 15, 2018 09:21 AM (2RBkF)
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Here's a question Fake News won't ask. What percentage of the population would have 1/512 Cherokee dna.

I think we're all Cherokee now.

Posted by: WisRich at October 15, 2018 09:24 AM (G0vdT)

333 Mornin' Horde. Can we just MOAB Portland, please? Leave the ruins as a warning...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 15, 2018 09:24 AM (AM1GF)

334 Well ... I guess at this point they'll either believe their lyin' eyes or not. And for many ... it'll be not.

"If only "uncle Joe" knew about the conditions in this camp, he'd fix it!"

Said the prisoners in the soviet gulags.

Posted by: GMan at October 15, 2018 09:24 AM (sxq57)

335 I think we're all Cherokee now.
Posted by: WisRich at October 15, 2018 09:24 AM


We told you someday Cherokee Nation would return.

Posted by: Paul Revere and The Raiders at October 15, 2018 09:25 AM (ctuyM)

336 The only person that gets my DNA is my wife, and maybe a few places where blood was involuntarily left.

I don't get you guys and their 23 and me crap.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:25 AM (tK7Y2)

337 I don't get you guys and their 23 and me crap.

I know. It seems like a *terrible* idea.

Posted by: GMan at October 15, 2018 09:25 AM (sxq57)

338 I think we're all Cherokee now.

Posted by: WisRich at October 15, 2018 09:24 AM (G0vdT)


I think chavez is Oneida. Like the silverware.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (lwiT4)

339 336 The only person that gets my DNA is my wife, and maybe a few places where blood was involuntarily left.

I don't get you guys and their 23 and me crap.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:25 AM (tK7Y2)

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Dolley made me do it.

She's more concerned with the genetic/disease factors than the heritage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (elLTo)

340 305
Been following this Portland thing ...



I always got the distinct impression that alot of folks - maybe not
most, but alot - just didn't want to believe that Police would let this
shit go on like this. They wanted to believe that there was some kind
of "moral boundary" - or some shit - beyond which Police simply would
not go.



Well ... I guess at this point they'll either believe their lyin' eyes or not. And for many ... it'll be not.



Just how people are. Once they're invested in the "goodness" of an
individual or group - they won't go back on it come Hell or high water.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (P+Keb)


I would make the case that the Council and the Police of Portland are so infected with leftist dogma, that they may actually be coordinating with Antifa.
You know, let antifa go on their goon patrols, and arrest anyone that fights back.
Let Antifa disrupt Trump Rallies and arrest Trump supporters for defending themselves.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (ymnmz)

341 In my younger days, I dated a beautiful full blooded Cherokee that did some modeling. However, her parents had not aged well.

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services


Were they like big-boned or something? Not fat. Just big.

Hollywood put some stereotypical image in my brain of short thin injuns. So I was kinda surprised.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (URwyc)

342 "If only "uncle Joe" knew about the conditions in this camp, he'd fix it!"

Said the prisoners in the soviet gulags.




Uncle Joe ran off to Fire Lake.

Posted by: x at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (nFwvY)

343 I was told that the one drop idea was racist by my elementary school progressive teacher. She was too extreme for any religious order and got kicked out of a convent.

If SHE told me that it was deeply racist...

That means she thinks it's totally okay now, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:18 AM (elLTo)

These days, just do what I do and claim everything.

I'm mostly Irish, Swedish, English, and German, in roughly that order, but there's also Black Dutch, which means part Spanish and Moorish, Cherokee, and Egyptian going way back into antiquity.

That means I'm technically Caucasian, Hispanic, African, and Native American at the same time.

I'm an Everythingbutasian, and as a quadracial, I win every game of race cards that soms Leftoid wants to start.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (J+mig)

344 Upon a pilgrimage to Cuba, (Rev. Jim) Jones claimed through his newspaper that the island-prison had succeeded in abolishing racism, but he criticized it for not providing enough "freedom of choice" on abortion - a Temple commandment for women who became pregnant. "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty," he told parishioners. "No, my country 'tis of thee, terrible land of inequity, that's what it is."

Wow. He would have felt right at home with the modern Democrat Party.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (O7MnT)

345 I don't get you guys and their 23 and me crap.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:25 AM (tK7Y2)


The possible DNA links to the Hrothgar Crime Syndicate have been a cautionary note to me.

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (n9EOP)

346 I'll let you Morons in on a little secret. There are a lot of people in the South with Cherokee ancestry, especially in GA. I don't think there are very many in MA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (mpXpK)

347 I'm 1/512 Cherokee, and a woman.

It's science, haters!


50% of my chromosomes are female chromosomes!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (oVJmc)

348 Everybody is 6.626 X 10^-34 part Cherokee.

Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (Rr52g)

349 >>I don't think there are very many in MA.

Elizabeth Warren is from Oklahoma.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (/tuJf)

350 243 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage


Makes her look pathetic and desperate. I will say this: Democrats sure do love that one drop rule.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (NWiLs)

351 Big news from CNBC: If you have student loan debt and are willing to move to Maine, the state will give you tax credits you can use to aid in paying off student debt. Last year the average tax credit was nearly $1,800 per recipient.

Maine needs to attract population, they say, and that's why they are doing this.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (Z216Q)

352 Trump is sending the Secretary of State to meet with the King of Saudi Arabia. Immediately, he says.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (lwiT4)

353 I'm turning Cherokee, I think I'm turning Cherokee,
I really think so...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (oVJmc)

354 349 Elizabeth Warren is from Oklahoma.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM (/tuJf)

She should go back there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:29 AM (mpXpK)

355 50% of my chromosomes are female chromosomes!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM


Have you considered competitive cycling?

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2018 09:29 AM (ctuyM)

356 Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:26 AM (URwyc)

No, they were small/short, not overweight, but looked like they had had a hard life (and they were not on the rez).

Posted by: Hrothgar's Boofing Services (now with 36 year guarantee and DiFi privacy options), VLLC at October 15, 2018 09:29 AM (n9EOP)

357 Still I don't get it. So you have genetic markers that may indicate some disease predisposition. Yeah and?

If you live a healthy life, get a yearly physical etc then what does that do?

Are you going to go on meds to prevent something you don't have or other genetic factors may have mitigated?

If someone wants my DNA, they're going to have to get shot getting it. I'm not mailing it to them.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (tK7Y2)

358 50% of my chromosomes are female chromosomes!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:27 AM

Technically, aren't you really 45/46 woman?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (KUaJL)

359 >> The only person that gets my DNA is my wife, and maybe a few places where blood was involuntarily left.

I don't get you guys and their 23 and me crap.




Hint: 23 and Me was started by the ex-wife of one of the Google founders. Just read an article last week that said they have ~60% of the US citizens' DNA in private DNA dbs, and from that they can ID anyone in the US based on the available DNA samples. Yay, Gattaca!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (W+vEI)

360 302 I believe that aposter above suggested that there was some pushback to the situation in Portland. Where is that noted?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:17 AM (AllCR)


Portland antifa -proud boys brawling multiple links

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y89s8dru

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (Z4rgH)

361 318
One of the prettiest girls I ever dated had two injun parents. The parents were ugly as hell. She had high cheekbones and a tiny nose. More of a French look then anything, if you ask me.
Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (URwyc)

Yup. Some American Indian blood usually makes women very pretty and age very well. First GF in middle school and high school had that on her mom's side, was the prettiest girl I've ever dated, and she is my GF again after 20 years and looks like she has only aged 6 or 7. Its quite remerkable.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (/DX2n)

362 Some actual Cherokees have been quite vocal about denouncing Warren's fake claim to Cherokee ancestry. Legal Insurrection has reported on that quite a bit in past articles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (AllCR)

363 [o]240 That's a startling picture of the Chinese destroyer sailing very close to the American USS Decatur ('Bolton Warns Chinese").

Good for the Navy- keeping sea lanes open (especially that one, through which so much trade flows) is the traditional first task of a Navy in peacetime.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 08:57 AM (Z216Q)

With the name Decatur, we should have boarded the Chinese ship and burnt her.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (59GGI)

364 >>She should go back there.

If only. She could take the rest of the transplanted leftists with her.

Lots of lefties go to MA for the schools and never leave.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2018 09:31 AM (/tuJf)

365 Her DNA test is not conclusive.

Give her a bottle of firewater. If she starts a whooping and hollering more than usual, she might be legit.

Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2018 09:31 AM (Rr52g)

366 296 so Warren released her DNA record the same way Kerry released his military record. she didn't. but a flunky says it says what she says it says.

So she's credible, you know, like Prof. Mousy-voice?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 09:31 AM (sM+h7)

367 If you need a microscope to see your History of Oppression how can it be something you Had to Overcome?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 15, 2018 09:32 AM (koNhm)

368 I share DNA with someone who was on the losing side at Little Bighorn. I'm pretty certain there is no native blood in the Marcus T DNA. Maybe on a pair of boots aomewhere but not in the blood stream.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:32 AM (tK7Y2)

369 366 296 so Warren released her DNA record the same way Kerry released his military record. she didn't. but a flunky says it says what she says it says.

So she's credible, you know, like Prof. Mousy-voice?
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at October 15, 2018 09:31 AM (sM+h7)

She's speaking her "truth." That should be all the proof you need.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2018 09:32 AM (NWiLs)

370 357 Still I don't get it. So you have genetic markers that may indicate some disease predisposition. Yeah and?

If you live a healthy life, get a yearly physical etc then what does that do?

Are you going to go on meds to prevent something you don't have or other genetic factors may have mitigated?

If someone wants my DNA, they're going to have to get shot getting it. I'm not mailing it to them.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (tK7Y2)

There are some interesting medical ideas floating around out there about personalized treatments for certain diseases (I think cancer, mostly) based on your unique DNA. But that's all still in the theoretical realm, so I'm not exactly rushing out right now.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (KUaJL)

371 >>Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage


Yeah - Something like 1/32nd or 1/500 something % native American. I'm going to guess that most people who go 10 generations or so back in the US have some Native American DNA.

She's grasping. Also: what tribe?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (W+vEI)

372 Great picture of Warren up at Drudge. Gotta be a photoshop, but still...

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (Z216Q)

373 Big news from CNBC: If you have student loan debt and are willing to move to Maine, the state will give you tax credits you can use to aid in paying off student debt. Last year the average tax credit was nearly $1,800 per recipient.

Maine needs to attract population, they say, and that's why they are doing this.
Posted by: Huck Follywood


Wow. $1800 credit on $160,000 SJW degree.

Just wow.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (8sd9V)

374 351 Big news from CNBC: If you have student loan debt and are willing to move to Maine, the state will give you tax credits you can use to aid in paying off student debt. Last year the average tax credit was nearly $1,800 per recipient.

Maine needs to attract population, they say, and that's why they are doing this.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (Z216Q)

To be fair, this is a great idea.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (/DX2n)

375 350 243 Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a likely 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage


Makes her look pathetic and desperate. I will say this: Democrats sure do love that one drop rule.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2018 09:28 AM (NWiLs)

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She knows that Kamala is going to steal her thunder.

She must really hate Hillary right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:34 AM (elLTo)

376 Yeah - Something like 1/32nd or 1/500 something % native American. I'm going to guess that most people who go 10 generations or so back in the US have some Native American DNA.

She's grasping. Also: what tribe?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (W+vEI)

If you've got 3 generations of ancestry in the US, you're almost guaranteed to have some.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 15, 2018 09:35 AM (J+mig)

377 373
Wow. $1800 credit on $160,000 SJW degree.

Just wow.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (8sd9V)

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It's, like, free money man!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:35 AM (elLTo)

378 Private DNA testing has done the same for our identification that Facebook has done to our privacy.

I'll never forget Fitch on Person of Interest saying that when he worked for the Government, he developed Social media in order to get citizens to tell them more intimate details about their lives than any wiretap could ever accomplish.

And the population was happy to do it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 09:35 AM (cqNba)

379 Did Warren get her DNA claim from the same place Jack got his magic beans?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 15, 2018 09:36 AM (tK7Y2)

380 Back before the white man came and wantonly slaughtered them, prairie crabs were so plentiful they practically leaped into the chafing dishes.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 15, 2018 09:36 AM (2NqXo)

381 376 Yeah - Something like 1/32nd or 1/500 something % native American. I'm going to guess that most people who go 10 generations or so back in the US have some Native American DNA.

She's grasping. Also: what tribe?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (W+vEI)

If you've got 3 generations of ancestry in the US, you're almost guaranteed to have some.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 15, 2018 09:35 AM (J+mig)

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My family's been here since the 1650s, and based on my research, I'd be surprised if I had anything significant in terms of Native American blood.

My English people married other English people for generations.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:36 AM (elLTo)

382 I suspect that 1/512th would normally fall in the category of 'background noise.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 09:37 AM (oVJmc)

383 I find it interesting, now that the country is getting a taste of BEING REPRESENTED BY OUR REPRESENTATIVES, that Bernie is telling voters they need to vote for Democrats so that not just rich people will be represented.

Posted by: Emmie at October 15, 2018 09:37 AM (4HMW8)

384 380
Back before the white man came and wantonly slaughtered them, prairie
crabs were so plentiful they practically leaped into the chafing dishes.


Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 15, 2018 09:36 AM (2NqXo)


Are those the ones you kill with lighter fluid and an ice pick?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

385 I'll consider believing Senator Warren if her nipples are brown. If they are pink, then fuck her with a flaming clown boner in the stink.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at October 15, 2018 09:37 AM (/DX2n)

386 There are some interesting medical ideas floating around out there about personalized treatments for certain diseases (I think cancer, mostly) based on your unique DNA. But that's all still in the theoretical realm, so I'm not exactly rushing out right now.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 15, 2018 09:33 AM (KUaJL)

I sat in with my Moms oncologist looking at the makeup of her DNA and the type of cells in the tumors and was given a 1 5 and 10 year outcome based on 2 types of chemo as well as combined radiation.

Posted by: Kav SCOTUS For Life at October 15, 2018 09:38 AM (JFO2v)

387 329 Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 09:20 AM (URwyc)

In my younger days, I dated a beautiful full blooded Cherokee that did some modeling. However, her parents had not aged well."

Who were you, Sonny Bono?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2018 09:38 AM (V2Yro)

388 She knows that Kamala is going to steal her thunder.

She must really hate Hillary right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:34 AM (elLTo)


You have to be delusional to think that a Masshole fraud like Warren would have broad appeal across the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

389 Back before the white man came and wantonly slaughtered them, prairie
crabs were so plentiful they practically leaped into the chafing dishes.


Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 15, 2018 09:36 AM (2NqXo)


Are those the ones you kill with lighter fluid and an ice pick?
Posted by: Vic


Only after you shave 1/2 of the prairie. ;-)

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 09:38 AM (8sd9V)

390 Are those the ones you kill with lighter fluid and an ice pick?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 09:37 AM

Heap big cans of sterno.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 15, 2018 09:39 AM (2NqXo)

391 362
Some actual Cherokees have been quite vocal about denouncing Warren's
fake claim to Cherokee ancestry. Legal Insurrection has reported on that
quite a bit in past articles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2018 09:30 AM (AllCR)


Yep, Warren named a specific tribe, as though it were written in stone. And it was the tribe that real NA laugh about, cause it's the one all the white/fake Indians claim to be a member of.

Warrens Cherokee ancestor dates back to the Cher song, from 1970ewhatever.

LOL

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 15, 2018 09:39 AM (ymnmz)

392 388 She knows that Kamala is going to steal her thunder.

She must really hate Hillary right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:34 AM (elLTo)

You have to be delusional to think that a Masshole fraud like Warren would have broad appeal across the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2018 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

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People keep forgetting, but she and Obama were on the same ballot in 2012.

She ran 10 points behind him. In Massachusetts.

She'd get slaughtered in a presidential election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 15, 2018 09:39 AM (elLTo)

393 >>Give her a bottle of firewater. If she starts a whooping and hollering more than usual, she might be legit.

I want to see her skin and pelt a Bison.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 15, 2018 09:39 AM (r9UYA)

394 "Back before the white man came and wantonly slaughtered them, prairie crabs were so plentiful they practically leaped into the chafing dishes"

Read the lyrics to The Story of Reuben Clamso.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N920UYc3Y0

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 09:39 AM (cqNba)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread (10/14/18 )

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The Quotes of The Day


Quote I

“So to all those Trump-hating demon rats and the mainstream media, keep up the antics. You are all losers. Sore losers. Stupid losers, too dumb to even know you are losing. He said it himself. Just a few minutes ago in Kentucky.”Jeanine Pirro


Quote II


"Even though Angela Merkel was not on the ballot tonight, she was on the ballot. And the vote was a clear vote to end the era of Merkel." Bijan Tavassoli


Quote III

The 'Machine politicians' have shown their colors . . . I feel sorry for the country however as it shows the power of partisan politicians who think of nothing higher than their own interests, and I feel for your future. We cannot stand so corrupt a government for any great length of time."

Theodore Roosevelt, Sr. (1831 - 187, in a letter to his son, Theodore, Jr., December 16, 1877.

h/t Isophorone


Quote IV

[T]here comes a point at which laughter begins to falter, under the simple, steady weight of events. As I’ve noted before, Trump’s record as a force of destruction is profound, whether it be the sabotage of Obamacare, the devastation of democratic norms, or the rattling of NATO. But as the months tick by, there’s a decent case that Trump’s proactive accomplishments are beginning to add up as well: a huge tax cut, two Supreme Court justices, wholesale deregulation, renegotiation of NAFTA, isolation of Iran, and a broader reboot of bilateral nationalism on the world stage. But I’m not talking merely about policy — he has also shifted the entire polity more decisively toward the authoritarian style of government. In this respect, yes, the Trump administration has indeed accomplished much more than many of us want to believe. Andrew Sullivan

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There will be math in tonight's ONT. The failure to understand statistics is explained.

In 1999, an English solicitor named Sally Clark went on trial for the murder of her two infant sons. She claimed both succumbed to sudden infant death syndrome. An expert witness for the prosecution, Sir Roy Meadow, argued that the odds of SIDS claiming two children from such an affluent family were 1 in 73 million, likening it to the odds of backing an 80-1 horse in the Grand National four years in a row and winning every time. The jury convicted Clark to life in prison.

But the Royal Statistical Society issued a statement after the verdict insisting that Meadow had erred in his calculation and that there was "no statistical basis" for his stated figure. Clark's conviction was overturned on appeal in January 2003, and the case has become a canonical example of the consequences of flawed statistical reasoning.


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Is a cat fight about to break out?

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Most political ads suck. But, not this one...........

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Pat Condell takes a look at Euro Trash.

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If it wasn't for the military, these whiny little bastards wouldn't be in the position they are.

Last week, Google dropped its bid for the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI), a massive military cloud computing contract potentially worth up to $10 billion, amid employee backlash and concern the project could violate their “AI principles.” Now an open letter claiming to be from an unspecified number of Microsoft employees is urging the Redmond, Washington-based tech giant to also back down from its own JEDI bid.

In the letter, which was published on blogging site Medium, the employees wrote that they joined Microsoft with “the expectation that the technologies we build will not cause harm or human suffering.” They also accused Microsoft executives of betraying the company’s artificial intelligence principles—ones that state A.I. should be “fair, reliable and safe, private and secure, inclusive, transparent, and accountable”—in pursuit of “short-term profits.”


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If you think about it, Christmas isn't all that far away. A Christmas present suggestion for that liberal on your shopping list.

In this brilliantly sensible and funny book, a Harvard-educated shrink and his comedy-writing daughter reveal that the real f-words in life are “feelings” and “fairness.” While most self-help books are about your feelings and fulfilling your wildest dreams, F*ck Feelings will show you how to find a new kind of freedom by getting your head out of your ass and yourself onto the right path toward realistic goals and feasible results. F*ck Feelings is the last self-help book you will ever need!


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Police. To protect and to serve. When they get around to it.

She called 911 when her daughter was attacked; Detroit police arrived 4 days later
DPD: Investigation ongoing, but mistakes were made


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If a school doesn't have a "Dress Code", it is best you don't implement one at your whim. Principal removed over Trump shirt controversy.

A Harnett County high school principal has been replaced, a week after she asked a high school student to remove a jersey that bore President Donald Trump’s name on the back.

The Harnett school system on Friday announced a new principal for Harnett Central High School. The district said the change is directly related to the actions taken by former Harnett Central Principal Cindy Gordon last week in asking the student not to wear the Trump shirt.

It isn't Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day, but it was given serious consideration.


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And you wonder why we consider you Bitches.

I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 201, I announced that I hate all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.

Just thinking out-loud here. I'm guessing sex wasn't on the agenda that night.

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The ONT Musical Interlude



October 14, 1969, Police in New Jersey issued a warrant for the arrest of Frank Sinatra in relation to his connections with the Mafia. via thisdayinmusic.com

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October 14, 1946, Born on this day, Justin Hayward, songwriter, lead singer, and guitarist with English rock band The Moody Blues who had the 1965 UK No.1 & US No.10 single 'Go Now' and the hits singles including 'Go Now', 'Nights in White Satin' and 'Question'. via thisdayinmusic.com


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Our guess? This father and son are not invited to any store that sells power tools. Genius Award Winners.

A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

Officers were called to a home in Bristol, Tennessee, on June 28 and found Douglas Ferguson, 76, bleeding from his head and leg, according to a press release from the Sullivan County Sheriff’s Office.

A preliminary investigation indicated that he tried to attack his son with a running chainsaw while his son mowed the yard. His son, who was not identified, ran over his father with the lawn mower as a way to defend himself, the press release stated.


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Helping out his fellow man when it is needed most. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

Jarete Hucks has given away over $50,000 worth of goods and services. But even more important is the generosity he has inspired in others.

When Hurricane Florence hit South Carolina, many families were flooded out of their homes. Hucks, who owns the Midtown Inn and Cottages, decided to open his doors to those in need.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Team Work.

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Notice: Posted with permission by The Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. The ONT can be habit forming.

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Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (dczB+)

2 ONT!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (I16G8)

3 Nice picture up top. Very Autumny.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (dczB+)

4 On the wall of shame again. Sigh........

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (I16G8)

5 Stupid comments posted me on gub thread.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (w7U7L)

6 Evening Horde!

Gee Andy, you say that like it's a bad thing. (You ignorant c*cksucker - and I mean that exactly how it sounds.)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:15 PM (9rIkM)

7 Insomniac kicks in the afterburner.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2018 10:15 PM (Z4rgH)

8 I'm so happy that Andrew Sullivan's "laughter has begun to falter." BTW, who the hell is he?

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (TdMsT)

9 Top 20~

Posted by: Hikaru at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (jlHSA)

10 Chicken Caesar Salad for dinner. Caesar plus chicken. East meets west.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 10:17 PM (rQM9Y)

11 Too lazy to duck duck go check - didn't Justin Hayward get monumentally screwed over by his early manager and doesn't see a penny from the biggest Moody Blues hits?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (9rIkM)

12 This is the closest I've been to the start of the ONT in months.
And what in the name of all that is loving and merciful is Andrew Sullivan talking about in regard to authoritarianism?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (nBr1j)

13 Wow. Grammie made The List.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (TdMsT)

14 Top twenty?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 14, 2018 10:19 PM (77Uq3)

15 I've never made the Wall of Shame, I'll never make the Wall of Shame, but I have 15-20 firsts to my name regardless. That's not bad, for someone not successful enough to really fit in.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 14, 2018 10:19 PM (jlHSA)

16 Love that top photo. What a beautiful scene. Thanks, MH.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (V+03K)

17 11 Too lazy to duck duck go check - didn't Justin Hayward get monumentally screwed over by his early manager and doesn't see a penny from the biggest Moody Blues hits?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (9rIkM

Since I don't care for the MB, I don't care if birthday boy got rooked or not.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (Ss+Em)

18 Hi guys. Hope you all had a nice weekend. I do hope former Harnett Central Principal Cindy Gordon is shaking her tiny fist in rage at the injustice of a world in which a student can brazenly support the duly elected president of the United States of America and she's the one who ends up getting fired over it.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (y87Qq)

19 So, authoritarianism in Sullivan's world means rolling back government regulation, advocating our position on the world stage and winning, and relinquishing power the executive branch abused during the previous administration. Okay, then. Sign me up.

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (1uG1d)

20
the devastation of democratic norms

What norms are those? Oh, yes: Republicans must always act like losers and Democrats can do or say anything they want.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (LsBY9)

21 Guessing there are some big fish in that pond.



Looks like a great day of fishing, just what is needed after the last few weeks of insanity.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (UsCnO)

22 "Even though Angela Merkel was not on the ballot tonight, she was on the ballot. And the vote was a clear vote to end the era of Merkel."

Not necessarily, though she's gonna hafta scramble for a new coalition. The fucking Green Party was one of the biggest gainers, going from like 11% to 18.5%.

And yes you can easily guess their platform is climate change, open borders and other commie nicklefuckery.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (Z4rgH)

23 I think I would avoid eating the baked goods from the screaming grandma. I'm sure she laces them with saltpeter and/or arsenic depending upon her mood.

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM (1uG1d)

24 I'm guessing the "Team Work" photo is from Russia or some other Slavic locale.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM (bjCNA)

25 Wow. Grammie made The List.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (TdMsT)


It's all the baseball. Makes her antsy in the pantsy.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:22 PM (y87Qq)

26
I'm so happy that Andrew Sullivan's "laughter has begun to falter." BTW, who the hell is he?

Posted by: Ladyl


Famed gynecologist and personal-ad personality.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 14, 2018 10:22 PM (LsBY9)

27 I am sensing a crossover ad campaign from the chainsaw lawnmower incident. "Stihl runs like a Deere."

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (1uG1d)

28 So which corrupt trash leaked Jarred's tax returns? The same corrupt trash that leaked Trump tax returns from decades ago?

There has to be a concerted effort to find this trash and lock them up for a long, long time.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (UsCnO)

29 Why are covered bridges covered?

Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (9qyA/)

30 Screaming Grandma may be in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's. Brain damage causes personality changes.

Or this behavior might have been totally justified. Sometimes they just get on your last nerve.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (dczB+)

31 Why are covered bridges covered?
Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (9qyA/)


To protect the timbers from weathering.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (y87Qq)

32 Great Sinatra video.

I like "It Was a Very Good Year" as well as "Shadow of Your Smile."

But perhaps I am feeling melancholy.

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (QKV7o)

33 29 Why are covered bridges covered?
Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (9qyA/)

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Under Obamacare, everyone is covered.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (rQM9Y)

34 Hello there, shibumi. How are things?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (y87Qq)

35 On the radio today, I heard a clip of Bernie Sanders telling people that one-party rule is bad and if people want the government to represent them, not just represent the Rich, they need to elect Democrats.

Now, in my perception, the last two years is the best representation I've experienced in decades. Not only that, but after eight years of businesses closing in our community, we now have new construction all over the place, including road improvements.

We also have a president who constantly demonstrates that he cares about the things that are important to us.

I hope a lot of people can tell that Bernie is full of baloney.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (4HMW8)

36 Headline from Liberty:
President Trump in '60 Minutes' Interview on Hs 'Regrets': 'I Regret that the Press Treats Me So Badly'

I love President Trump.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

37 Evening! I read the whole content!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (438dO)

38 When seconds matter, the police are only minutes days away.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (+y/Ru)

39 Evening! I read the whole content!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (438dO)

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Weirdo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (rQM9Y)

40 My name is not in the top 10, either my handle, or the bevy of imposters.


I also got a lot done this week.


I am sensing a trend.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (UsCnO)

41 I think I would avoid eating the baked goods from the screaming grandma. I'm sure she laces them with saltpeter and/or arsenic depending upon her mood.
Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM


Another yellow fever victim!

Posted by: "Teddy Roosevelt" at October 14, 2018 10:27 PM (YTxkQ)

42 Paul Joseph Watson is challenging everyone to wear rh most offensive triggering Halloween costumes they can come up with. I am going to dress up as a penis wearing a pussy hat.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (h1jJh)

43 ONT, huh? *pours bourbon*

Must be that time o' the evening.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (QzJWU)

44 36 Headline from Liberty:
President Trump in '60 Minutes' Interview on Hs 'Regrets': 'I Regret that the Press Treats Me So Badly'

I love President Trump.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

Oh, thats amazing. Not quite as good as this one though, but its still in the running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazsNQhRvU4

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (GBteo)

45
Aaaaaand, old Milky Loads surfaces again.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (G7bI0)

46 Hey everybody.

**TOP FIVE MOMENTS LEFT ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR OF THE TRUMP/STAHL INTERVIEW ON 60 MINUTES**

5. "I know you are but what am I?"

4. "I agree, you agree Leslie, I think all level-headed Americans agree, it's way past the time that it should have happened, which is why I'm giving this year's Presidential Medal of Freedom to the individual I've found most deserving throughout 2018, which is Weird Al Yankovic"

3. "I know you'd rather be interviewing Hillary right now"

2. "Hey Les, Kanye says you like it doggy style. True? Untrue?"

1. "You can bitch, you can scream and you can moan, but it all still adds up to the same thing: Hillary Clinton will never be president."

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (miE9U)

47 I've seen the 'demon rat' meme for a long time now - since reading Lucianne's comments in 2000ish - but this is my first time seeing it from a commenter as famous as Pirro.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (ykYG2)

48 I feel sorry for the grandpa married to that harridan..she must have him thinking fondly of death.

Posted by: IC at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (4lu7W)

49 The media has a way of spewing out pompous bullshit that means absolutely nothing at all.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (nBr1j)

50 Regarding Andrew Sullivan's concern about a shift toward authoritarian leadership of Trump, when Obama did so much by Executive Order, THAT WAS THE SHIFT.
Suck it, liberal.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (+lVUW)

51 Anyone watch the MI Senate debate?

Posted by: Ha at October 14, 2018 10:30 PM (MAstk)

52 I'm so happy that Andrew Sullivan's "laughter has begun to falter." BTW, who the hell is he?

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Andy thinks it's authoritarian that we're allowed to make more of our own decisions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:30 PM (+y/Ru)

53 So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (o1fzk)

54 Not all that long ago I was wondering what had happened to Andi Sullivan, and if he had died without it being brought to my attention. Evidently not.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (bZ7mE)

55 Andrew Sullivan -- Ain't he the dude that's an expert on Sarah Palin's cooter?

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (Z4rgH)

56 42 Paul Joseph Watson is challenging everyone to wear rh most offensive triggering Halloween costumes they can come up with. I am going to dress up as a penis wearing a pussy hat.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (h1jJh)

I'm pretty sure being fat and half-black to begin with is the most offensive thing I can already do.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (jlHSA)

57 What norms are those? Oh, yes: Republicans must always act like losers and Democrats can do or say anything they want.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (LsBY9)


I have been listening to a podcast talking about the history around the Magna Carta, and the attitude King John had towards his royal right was very similar to TFG's attitude of the US presidency.

I wonder if that is what is feared, that Trump will take the same position.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (mUa7G)

58 Andi Sullivan should have never left Sarah Palin's uterus

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (ZghNV)

59 53 So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (o1fzk)

He schlonged her? That word makes me giggle.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (dczB+)

60 What are the standards for a criminal conviction in the UK? Is "your defense is improbable" sufficient? I didn't see anything more about that in the article.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (y87Qq)

61 I made the wall of shame once. I think it was during the 2012 election.

I'd comment more, except acecomments is blocked at work, while Ace itself is not.

It's all content for me, all week.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (PHotS)

62 Ol' RAWMUSLGLUTES doubtless feels that other people can't make their own decisions because his own life choices have been so godawful.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (ykYG2)

63 I've seen the 'demon rat' meme for a long time now - since reading Lucianne's comments in 2000ish - but this is my first time seeing it from a commenter as famous as Pirro.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (ykYG2)

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She seems as fired up as Graham at how the Dems handled the Kav nomination.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (I16G8)

64 Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.


Posted by: JoeF
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Oh, is that way you kids are calling it these days?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (9rIkM)

65 Hiya

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (r5HvL)

66 61 I made the wall of shame once. I think it was during the 2012 election.

I'd comment more, except acecomments is blocked at work, while Ace itself is not.

It's all content for me, all week.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (PHotS)

I'm sorry to hear that. How is the content, anyways? I usually just skip to the comments.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (GBteo)

67 Hey JT.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (y87Qq)

68 I think even if somehow I could work up enough posts to make it, splitting them between my home hash, multiple work hashes, and a flood of phone hashes would keep me off.

But that might be a good thing

Posted by: Hikaru at October 14, 2018 10:34 PM (jlHSA)

69

Detroit - more than ten miles away; not my problem.

Posted by: Delton Klugenovski at October 14, 2018 10:34 PM (oYD2h)

70 Hello there, shibumi. How are things?

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{{waving}}


Hi Hogmartin! Thank you once again for arranging the MiMoMe!

As for me, I have determined the only fun thing about wedding planning --even for a very small wedding-- is cake tasting.

How are you doing? I have not told Bozo Conservative this yet, but the Bluebell spoon is going to hang in our future kitchen.

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (QKV7o)

71 I made the wall of shame once. I'm now behind the shield of invisibility.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (nBr1j)

72 So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (o1fzk)

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They just will not get that PDT has no phuchs to give about any of them, and that he will not start fights, but will punch back twice as hard when they do.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (I16G8)

73 Huh, I thought old Andy died in a fisting accident last year.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (bML9A)

74 Anyone watch the MI Senate debate?

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Your report?

Of course, it's probably moot, since I'll vote for "potted plant" or "river rock" before Stabmenow.

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (QKV7o)

75 re Primal Scream 60something: I'ma guess here that this isn't the first time she went Mount Tambora on hubby.

That poor man. I'm amazed he hasn't chugged a quart of hemlock by now

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (ykYG2)

76 I used to read the f*ck feelings blog (and yes the asterisk is part of the name), and found some of the advice useful. A lot of it is just cognitive therapy type stuff.

The shrink, Dr. Lastname, is a lib, so I don't read f*ck feelings much since PDT's election. But there's still some useful stuff.

https://fxckfeelings.com/manifesto/

Posted by: Hands at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (786Ro)

77
54 Not all that long ago I was wondering what had happened to Andi Sullivan, and if he had died without it being brought to my attention. Evidently not.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (bZ7mE)








He suddenly realized that he's been irrelevant for years, and he's trying to change that lately by hopping on the Trump Train.

Apparently he's not trying very hard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (eXA4G)

78 With a bit more practice, Insomniac can easily break the 1,000 comment barrier

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (ZghNV)

79 29 Why are covered bridges covered?
Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (9qyA/)

To try to protect the wood planks from snow and ice.

Also, most of these bridges were built in the days of snow rollers, pre- snow plow.

They used to use horses to pull huge rollers down streets to compress the snow. Which is kind of ingenious when you think about it.

That'll fuck up your wood timbered bridge pretty quickly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (GBteo)

80 It's all content for me, all week.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (PHotS)

Your money order is in the mail

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (Ss+Em)

81 Great Sinatra video.

I like "It Was a Very Good Year" as well as "Shadow of Your Smile."

But perhaps I am feeling melancholy.


Posted by: shibumi




Watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTmDcgUElk4

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (r5HvL)

82 "I'm sorry to hear that. How is the content, anyways? I usually just skip to the comments."

Pretty good, Ace still brings the funny. And the COBs are outstanding, not just the always excellent ONT.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (PHotS)

83 an unspecified number of Microsoft employees is urging the Redmond, Washington--based tech giant to also back down from its own JEDI bid.
In the letter, which was published on blogging site Medium, the employees wrote that they joined Microsoft with "the expectation that the technologies we build will not cause harm or human suffering."


You mean "human suffering" like ISIS beheading people, young girls being kidnapped by Muslims and forced into sex slavery? Go enjoy the life America has given you, you bunch of dummies. And praise Jesus that you weren't born in Nigeria.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

84
Leslie Stahl and all her media cohorts are going to be SHOCKED! SHOCKED! I tell you, at the impudence of Trump towards the media tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (G7bI0)

85 With a bit more practice, Insomniac can easily break the 1,000 comment barrier

Posted by: Anna Puma


Tonight ?

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:38 PM (r5HvL)

86 With a bit more practice, Insomniac can easily break the 1,000 comment barrier
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 14, 2018 10:36 PM (ZghNV)

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Only if he gets coaching from Sven.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:39 PM (I16G8)

87 A lot of men have uncontrollable rage and emotionally or physically abuse their spouses. They are probably triggered by very minor things.

I guess all they need to do is concoct some lame rationalization like this 70 yo bitch and they're good to go, right? People should stop demonizing abusive men and make them courageous heroes like abusive women.

/s

This is another case of "I don't think the left has thought this through".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 10:39 PM (/qEW2)

88 How are you doing? I have not told Bozo Conservative this yet, but the Bluebell spoon is going to hang in our future kitchen.

Posted by: shibumi


Is it for stabbing ?

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:39 PM (r5HvL)

89 Your money order is in the mail
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (Ss+Em)

I want one.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (dczB+)

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (QKV7o)

91 Hillary Clinton Says Bill Should Not Have Resigned Over Lewinsky, Not An 'Abuse Of Power'

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But Kanye swearing in the Oval Office? Trump is unclean! Unc!ean!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (+y/Ru)

92 I do miss Monty's doom thread, but I think the current COBs are the best COBs.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (PHotS)

93 Back to w--k tomorrow. I hope I can make it. I was able to sit at my desk and then sit in a pew for about an hour each time but I had to spend most of this day in bed.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (ykYG2)

94 I know some around here feel Sinatra isn't that great..
but I gotta say.. what an entertainer.. watch that video... damn..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 10:41 PM (438dO)

95 Is it for stabbing ?

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I believe the correct term is "shanking."

But no, not that this point, it's not sharp enough. But Bozo Conservative has a nice Dremel kit so really, he could sharpen it up and shank me.






Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:41 PM (QKV7o)

96 Love the speculation about Palin running against Murkowski for Senate.

Round 1 Palin beat Lisa's poppa in the GOP Alaska Governor's race.


Round 2 decimated poppa Murkowski's corrupt cronies as Governor.

Round 3 Palin backed Tea Party candidate beats Lisa in GOP Alaska Senate Primary.

Round 4 Lisa weasels her way to winning the Senate seat with the help of the GOPe.

Round 5 Lisa re-establishes the Family Business.


So far 3 rounds for Palin, 2 for Lisa.

Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (9qyA/)

97 How are you doing? I have not told Bozo Conservative this yet, but the Bluebell spoon is going to hang in our future kitchen.
Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (QKV7o)


Oh, she will be thrilled to hear that. Be sure to get a picture I'm hoping to get another mini meet-up going in the winter for people who couldn't make this one - maybe a day at the Henry Ford or DIA and/or dinner. I'll need Detroit residents to pick a good restaurant like AltonJackson did for the Washtenaw County area. I'm OK, thanks for asking. Maybe getting a bit of a cold. I will be better tomorrow when I hand off the stupid phone.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (y87Qq)

98 Is anyone else sick to death of the left's unending, gratuitous war against men?

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (TdMsT)

99 I made the wall of shame once. I'm now behind the shield of invisibility.

Posted by: Northernlurker


I see.

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (r5HvL)

100 Telling your intern to "suck it" isn't an abuse of power? Dragging the country into a months-long perjury debacle and impeachment proceedings isn't?

Just. Go. Away, Hillary, you sociopathic enabling monster.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (ykYG2)

101 Appropos of nothing I've become more irritable than I once was. I have absolutely no patience with dumbasses.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (nBr1j)

102 so Trump boofed Leslie? I didn't see it, I shopping or watching cartoons or drinking or something

Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (L01V2)

103 Oh, look, everybody! It's an ONT!

It's kinda like Christmas every night.

Or at least Arbor Day.

Posted by: mindful webworker - earnestly joshing at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (QNXv1)

104 My Sinatra video of the night:

https://tinyurl.com/y9sfmp8g

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (QKV7o)

105 boulder terlit hobo

Good luck! Hope your day goes by without much pain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (hyuyC)

106 Back to w--k tomorrow. I hope I can make it. I was able to sit at my desk and then sit in a pew for about an hour each time but I had to spend most of this day in bed.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (ykYG2)

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Any options to work from home? Cuz it seems like you're pushing it by going back tomorrow

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (I16G8)

107 98 Is anyone else sick to death of the left's unending, gratuitous war against men?
Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (TdMsT)

Raises hand.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (dczB+)

108
I wonder if Andrew Sullivan is still obsessed with Sarah Palin's garden.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (f1Vqw)

109 100 Telling your intern to "suck it" isn't an abuse of power? Dragging the country into a months-long perjury debacle and impeachment proceedings isn't?

Just. Go. Away, Hillary, you sociopathic enabling monster.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM (ykYG2)


Yes.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (TdMsT)

110 Is it for stabbing ?
Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:39 PM (r5HvL)


'tis. One (actually six) of the various MiMoMe door prizes. A beechwood sporkshiv, laser-engraved by Muad'dib with a signature from bluebell herself.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (y87Qq)

111 RCP doesn't have any polling for Ferrara in AZ9 but claims it is "likely Dem"...anyone know if he has a chance?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (+DkQm)

112 She called 911 when her daughter was attacked; Detroit police arrived 4 days later
DPD: Investigation ongoing, but mistakes were made


Geez, move like most others. Everyone knows the Detroit Police Department is worthless, as is the city commission, and the Board of Education.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

113 98

I hear you, Ladyl. I'm trying to raise two boys and it's hell trying to drown out the libtards here in Seattle.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (PkVlr)

114 F*ck Feelings money quotes I like:

- Don't begin the process of self-improvement by listing all the reasons you suck. Nobody wants to hear it, least of all us.

- Just as everybody wants to go to heaven without having to die, everyone wants to find true love without having to suffer through dates.

- You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy. Your vows said something about "in sickness and in health," not, "with god-like powers to make things perfect forever."

- A good person isn't the angel with the beatific smile of love, but the pissed off banshee who grins and bears it, acts decently, and knows how to negotiate.

- Just because mental illness doesn't have a clear cause or a cure doesn't mean it's a death sentence. It's merely a life sentence, so you might as well stop groping for answers and learn to deal.

Posted by: Hands at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (786Ro)

115 Have a great night everyone.

May you all be blessed.

However, work those Plan Bs. We may need them. And remember -- OPSEC, OPSEC, OPSEC.

Head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan if Plans A & B fail.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (hyuyC)

116 113 98

I hear you, Ladyl. I'm trying to raise two boys and it's hell trying to drown out the libtards here in Seattle.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (PkVlr)


I just can't image how hard it must be for a conservative to live in Seattle.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (TdMsT)

117 Oh, she will be thrilled to hear that. Be sure to get a picture I'm hoping to get another mini meet-up going in the winter for people who couldn't make this one - maybe a day at the Henry Ford or DIA and/or dinner. I'll need Detroit residents to pick a good restaurant like AltonJackson did for the Washtenaw County area. I'm OK, thanks for asking. Maybe getting a bit of a cold. I will be better tomorrow when I hand off the stupid phone.

--

Please tell her when you run across her. I've been MIA on the dayside because of work.

I love the idea of a DIA/ Henry Ford meet up. If people don't mind driving a bit (not a long way), there is a great Polish restaurant in Hamtramck, which is not so far away.

http://polonia-restaurant.net/

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (QKV7o)

118 Good night, NaCly Dog.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:46 PM (y87Qq)

119 I heard Rush talking about that 70 year old nut case this week. It is one of the few times I can recall yelling in anger at the radio. Her big takeaway this that the only way men can redeem themselves for our natural inclination to rape and abuse is to band together on our own to figure out how we can stop being men and respect women.

I think my exact words were "Fuck you, worry about yourself, I'm not spending one second trying to figure out on my own how to satisfy your impossible demands."

Annoys me when I hear a group of women going on an on about how tough their lives have been because of men. Guess what, men's lives aren't so easy dealing with women either, we have just learned not to complain about it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (PHotS)

120 Telling your intern to "suck it" isn't an abuse of power? Dragging the
country into a months-long perjury debacle and impeachment proceedings
isn't?

***

One of the Dem talking points against BK was that one of the women in BK's office told the female interns they should dress appropriately at work.

Seriously.

So...telling women to dress appropriately...UNACCEPTABLE!

Using an intern as a humidor? WOKE AS F***
Is that about right?
That being said the fact Bill Clinton was "credibly accused" of multiple rapes is a bigger deal. Oh, and his admitting that he sexually harassed a woman (Paula Jones).


Posted by: 18-1 at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (+DkQm)

121 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (+lVUW)

122 Andrew Sullivan - hahahaha. Poor fellow. It's like someone looking at a delicious laden buffet and seeing only poison.

(If I'm reading that quote right.)j

Anyway, my laughter hasn't begun to falter. Just mutating more to Nelson Muntz style with each antic of the enemy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Is Andrew related to Ed? at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (QNXv1)

123 I know some around here feel Sinatra isn't that great..
but I gotta say.. what an entertainer.. watch that video... damn..



Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


Sinatra was a great entertainer.

But, IMHO, Dino was the MAN !

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (r5HvL)

124 89 Your money order is in the mail
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (Ss+Em)

I want one.
Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:40 PM (dczB+)

Your gift certificate will be sent via Fed Ex.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (Ss+Em)

125 Ladyl,

It's maddening, but this area is amazing. I put them both through all boys Catholic school and taught them to love God and shoot straight. But sometimes it takes more than one cocktail to calm down.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (PkVlr)

126 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576439785574405

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576528167940098

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576621654831106

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576711874260993

Posted by: kbdabear at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (0Ntuf)

127 our natural inclination to rape and abuse is to band together on our own
to figure out how we can stop being men and respect women.
***

In Sweden (or was in Norway?) *all* sex crimes for a year or so were committed by "refugees".

Perhaps we could "respect women" by stopping the immigration of any and all "refugees"?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (+DkQm)

128 wow. If randy andy sullivant is jumping off the never trump train, it really is over for them. Well, ace called it more than a year ago, if you're never trump, either go lib or go home. No other options.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (V2Yro)

129 So I read that WaPo article with the bitchy woman -- her poor, poor cuck husband.

I cringe for that beta male.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (GBteo)

130 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576802089553920

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051576911325999104

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577002170429440

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577111763439617

Posted by: kbdabear at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (0Ntuf)

131 125 Ladyl,

It's maddening, but this area is amazing. I put them both through all boys Catholic school and taught them to love God and shoot straight. But sometimes it takes more than one cocktail to calm down.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (PkVlr)


I live in a leftist neighborhood, but I am always meeting conservatives here. It gives me hope.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (TdMsT)

132 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl


Son : "Do you want a leg, Dad ?"

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (r5HvL)

133 Your gift certificate will be sent via Fed Ex.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:48 PM (Ss+Em)

Yummy!

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (dczB+)

134 I just can't image how hard it must be for a conservative to live in Seattle.
Posted by: Ladyl
---------

*!*

You've verbed 'image'. It had to happen sooner or later.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 10:50 PM (vyAx2)

135 >>I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.
Posted by: nerdygirl

The question is, does the turkey get carved with the chain saw or the lawn mower?

Posted by: Aviator at October 14, 2018 10:50 PM (2cuLk)

136 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

-
You're thinking no electric knife to carve the turkey?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:50 PM (+y/Ru)

137 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577220333019138

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577326859894785

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577419700858880

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1051577517574885377

Posted by: kbdabear at October 14, 2018 10:50 PM (0Ntuf)

138 hiya Hogmartin

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (r5HvL)

139 I love the idea of a DIA/ Henry Ford meet up. If people don't mind driving a bit (not a long way), there is a great Polish restaurant in Hamtramck, which is not so far away.

http://polonia-restaurant.net/
Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (QKV7o)


That looks great, and it's really not far from either Dearborn or DIA. I'll put it on the list, thanks!

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (y87Qq)

140 Mr. Brown:

Listen to your mental butler. Leave your wife, NOW! Dying alone is better.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (5aX2M)

141 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (rQM9Y)

142 ...A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (+lVUW)




Don't ask for the drumstick!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (QzJWU)

143 Andrew Sullivan - hahahaha. Poor fellow. It's like someone looking at a delicious laden buffet and seeing only poison.

***


It was amazing to see what the gay marriage debate did to him.
I presume it was actually the pressure of adopting the right politics to "date" the people he wanted to "date".

I hope Aaron Tone was worth it Andi...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (+DkQm)

144 speaking of idiots, I saw this on yahoo today:

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders likely violated ethics regulations when she posted a photo on her official White House Twitter account of Kanye West wearing a MAGA hat, a watchdog group charged.

West's hat touts President Donald Trump's campaign slogan, "Make America Great Again." Sanders posed with the rapper for the photo after his wild appearance in the Oval Office Thursday with Trump.

The group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint Friday with the Office of Special Counsel, accusing Sanders of violating the Hatch Act. The act forbids federal employees from using their influence, position, work resources or social media accounts to affect the "results of an election."

Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (L01V2)

145 Begun the chainsaw/lawnmower wars have.

Posted by: Yoda at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (9qyA/)

146 121 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner."

Especially if they froze that leg and put it on the menu.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (V2Yro)

147 111 RCP doesn't have any polling for Ferrara in AZ9 but claims it is "likely Dem"...anyone know if he has a chance?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 14, 2018 10:44 PM (+DkQm)

Might be changing. Our esteemed former mayor was robbed at gun point this weekend. Ironic it happened to the guy who wanted to impose gun control and gutted the PHX PD.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 14, 2018 10:52 PM (77Uq3)

148 You've verbed 'image'. It had to happen sooner or later.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 10:50 PM (vyAx2)


Autocucumber strikes again...

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:52 PM (TdMsT)

149 Geez, it's tough to make you guys laugh anymore.

Anyway, gotta go early. Have a great rest of the evening/ONT everyone.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 10:52 PM (miE9U)

150 Yeah, the airing of grievances at Festivus will be bad, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:52 PM (+y/Ru)

151 131

I admit I zip my lip and nod more than I care to just to keep my job. And the PNW isn't going to change overnight. But it is worth staying and fighting for.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 10:52 PM (PkVlr)

152 why the fuck do we even listen to the stumbling kirby bag? just attack these fuckers like trump, 24/7. i have totally tuned out the media and their trained seals.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (KP5rU)

153 I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:47 PM (+lVUW)


Ankle bracelets and restraining orders to start with. I bet the Sheriff wants to put them on both of them just to make sure.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (mUa7G)

154 I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (dczB+)

155 115 Head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan if Plans A & B fail.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (hyuyC)


I get your Mattis reference, but did you notice Trump calling him 'kind of a Democrat'? PDT's prediction for Mattis -- They all leave sooner or later.

He's suggesting sooner methinks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (Z4rgH)

156 121 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner."

Especially if they froze that leg and put it on the menu.

-----------

Sorry dad. I thought you were a hedge.

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (rQM9Y)

157 132 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl


Son : "Do you want a leg, Dad ?"
Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (r5HvL)


Broke out laughing

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (Ss+Em)

158 Oh, thats amazing. Not quite as good as this one though, but its still in the running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazsNQhRvU4
Posted by: Harry Paratestes


LOL

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:54 PM (+lVUW)

159 West's hat touts President Donald Trump's campaign slogan, "Make America Great Again." Sanders posed with the rapper for the photo after his wild appearance in the Oval Office Thursday with Trump.

The group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint Friday with the Office of Special Counsel, accusing Sanders of violating the Hatch Act. The act forbids federal employees from using their influence, position, work resources or social media accounts to affect the "results of an election."
Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:51 PM (L01V2)

I believe one of these front groups files an ethics complaint against the administration daily. Unfortunately, each one gets some kind of investigation, even if it's an hour with some intern going over the paperwork and circular filing it.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 14, 2018 10:55 PM (Y/5oU)

160 massive military cloud computing

This sounds like a really bad idea, but someone will hire Pakistani IT anyways so go ahead and piss away a few more billion.

And WTF does AI have to do with a cloud?

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2018 10:55 PM (FhXTo)

161 So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (o1fzk)




From the little I saw, yeah, he thwacked her with his man root.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (9Om/r)

162 I am hoping to get another mini meet-up going in the winter for people who couldn't make this one - maybe a day at the Henry Ford or DIA and/or dinner. I'll need Detroit residents to pick a good restaurant like AltonJackson did for the Washtenaw County area. I'm OK, thanks for asking. Maybe getting a bit of a cold. I will be better tomorrow when I hand off the stupid phone.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:42 PM

I would love it! I was so sad to be sick last weekend.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (/+bwe)

163 So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM

I hope he did because shortly after his election she interviewed him and she was one condescending, snarky b-word. Payback.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (2NqXo)

164 Is anyone else sick to death of the left's unending, gratuitous war against men?

Posted by: Ladyl
----
Uh, yeah. It's why I don't read the papers, watch the news, pay for current movies or expect professors to have a brain in their heads.

As you know, I have five sons - I'm telling them all the time about the pitfalls of *woke* idiots, colleges, and overwrought HR offices.

They'd prefer to not believe me but their life experience shows I know what the hell I'm talking about.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (9rIkM)

165 52 I'm so happy that Andrew Sullivan's "laughter has begun to falter." BTW, who the hell is he?

-
Andy thinks it's authoritarian that we're allowed to make more of our own decisions.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


Or keep more of our own money.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (+lVUW)

166 also, there's hope again for the rest of us:

Singer Ariana Grande and comedian Pete Davidson have reportedly ended their relationship and called off their engagement, according to reports from TMZ and People. "Sources close to the former couple tell us AG and PD split this weekend, with both parties acknowledging that it simply was not the right time for their relationship to take off," TMZ announced. "We're told the two still have love for each other, but things are over romantically."

Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (L01V2)

167 I'd like to know if it was a lawn tractor or a push mower. It would clarify the image in my minds eye.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:57 PM (+y/Ru)

168 chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

I'm seeing a pretty awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl


Son : "Do you want a leg, Dad ?"
Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM

So wrong, but so, so funny!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 10:57 PM (/+bwe)

169 ...The high school had encouraged students to dress with a patriotic theme for the football game on Oct. 5... the high school's principal asked... 18-year-old... to remove the jersey because it was "too political"... red, white and blue jersey featured "USA" and the Statue of Liberty's torch on the front, with "Trump" and the number 45 on the back... after people complained.

This is all kinds of twisted. The President is not suitable for a patriotic theme? A couple of whiny anti-Trumpers gripe and rule the stadium? Or did the Principal just make up the people complaining? Anyway, fired. Hahaha. Nelson Muntz point and guffaw.

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically correct patriotism only at October 14, 2018 10:57 PM (QNXv1)

170 "Your Honor, he came at me with a chainsaw. The lawnmower wasn't fast enough to get away from him. What else could I do?"

Posted by: Son at October 14, 2018 10:57 PM (9qyA/)

171 Singer Ariana Grande and comedian Pete Davidson have reportedly ended their relationship and called off their engagement,

-
Great. Now I'll cry myself to sleep.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 10:58 PM (+y/Ru)

172 They'd prefer to not believe me but their life experience shows I know what the hell I'm talking about.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (9rIkM)


Th left certainly won't like the rules when they are applied to their own sons.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 10:59 PM (TdMsT)

173
Singer Ariana Grande and comedian Pete Davidson have reportedly ended their relationship and called off their engagement, according to reports from TMZ and People. "Sources close to the former couple tell us AG and PD split this weekend, with both parties acknowledging that it simply was not the right time for their relationship to take off," TMZ announced. "We're told the two still have love for each other, but things are over romantically."
Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (L01V2)

-----------

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 10:59 PM (rQM9Y)

174 I believe one of these front groups files an ethics complaint against the administration daily. Unfortunately, each one gets some kind of investigation, even if it's an hour with some intern going over the paperwork and circular filing it.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 14, 2018 10:55 PM (Y/5oU)

-------------

Where were they when shitheads like Jay Z and Beyonce were out and proud with support for Bathhouse Barry, and when they were photograhed wearing I'm With Her garb.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 10:59 PM (I16G8)

175 >> I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.

Go on.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at October 14, 2018 10:59 PM (f1Vqw)

176 he has also shifted the entire polity more decisively toward the authoritarian style of government

?! I wasn't expecting that twist. Is it just projection all the way down with those guys?

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2018 11:00 PM (98WNR)

177 Singer Ariana Grande and comedian Pete Davidson have reportedly ended their relationship and called off their engagement, according to reports from TMZ and People. "Sources close to the former couple tell us AG and PD split this weekend, with both parties acknowledging that it simply was not the right time for their relationship to take off," TMZ announced. "We're told the two still have love for each other, but things are over romantically."
Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (L01V2)

It's sad, really.

But whoever is hired to remove or cover up all of their matching tattoos will be happy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (GBteo)

178 The Family of the Year should have just hired a lawn service.

Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (sdi6R)

179 Hmmm, maybe I'll replace my chainsaw prosthetic with a lawnmower one.

Posted by: Ash at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (9qyA/)

180 yeah, i saw trump, leslie changed her depends at least three times during his baptism by fire.trump never flinched.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (KP5rU)

181 178 The Family of the Year should have just hired a lawn service.
Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (sdi6R)

They probably wish they had in retrospect.

You might say hiring a good lawn service gives you a leg up on the neighbors, too.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:02 PM (GBteo)

182 179 Hmmm, maybe I'll replace my chainsaw prosthetic with a lawnmower one.
Posted by: Ash at October 14, 2018 11:01 PM (9qyA/)

GROOVY

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 14, 2018 11:02 PM (77Uq3)

183 I would love it! I was so sad to be sick last weekend.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (/+bwe)


You'll be on the notification list since you've got an account already. I was hoping you'd be able to make it out to the last one too. But we're all so - relatively - close that we could almost just meet up every few months in a less "formal" setting, just an evening dinner meet-up. I don't mind driving out there.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:02 PM (y87Qq)

184 Navy basic video from 1955, for gun crews (remove space):
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=N8XRDipD0EU

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 11:02 PM (0ReGO)

185 154 I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.
Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 10:53 PM (dczB+)

--------

That's how about I feel after a professional nose hair trimming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (rQM9Y)

186 Wasn't that Peter Jackson's BrainDead when he was fighting zombies with a lawn mower ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (ykYG2)

187 176 he has also shifted the entire polity more decisively toward the authoritarian style of government

?! I wasn't expecting that twist. Is it just projection all the way down with those guys?
Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2018 11:00 PM (98WNR)


How does this asswipe reconcile the elimination, by PDT, of thousands of of onerous regulations with "a more...authoritarian style of government?"

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (TdMsT)

188 Good God almighty I need to get a life.

I found this quote interesting:

- You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy. Your vows said something about "in sickness and in health," not, "with god-like powers to make things perfect forever."

That's not what my ex believed. She found it perfectly good grounds for divorce.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

189 Stats say that improbable things are likely to happen.

Like having two SIDS babies, innocently

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (1UZdv)

190 That poor guy married to the 70-year-old harpy reminds me of Theon Greyjoy, aka Reek. If he had any balls he would have her committed to an insane asylum long ago.

Posted by: Toad-O at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (cct0t)

191 186
Wasn't that Peter Jackson's BrainDead when he was fighting zombies with a lawn mower ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (ykYG2)


That was Texas Lawnmower Massacre.

Posted by: davidt at October 14, 2018 11:04 PM (9qyA/)

192 Son : "Do you want a leg, Dad ?"
Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 10:49 PM (r5HvL)


Broke out laughing

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Good.

I owe you a couple from the Sat. Nite jokes.

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 11:04 PM (r5HvL)

193 Stats say that improbable things are likely to happen.

Like having two SIDS babies, innocently
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (1UZdv)


Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:05 PM (y87Qq)

194 186 Wasn't that Peter Jackson's BrainDead when he was fighting zombies with a lawn mower ?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (ykYG2)

Correct sir, Dead Alive.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 14, 2018 11:05 PM (77Uq3)

195 why the fuck do i fuck around here?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 14, 2018 11:05 PM (KP5rU)

196 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=15026

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 14, 2018 11:05 PM (itfg0)

197 You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy. Your vows said something about "in sickness and in health," not, "with god-like powers to make things perfect forever."

That's not what my ex believed. She found it perfectly good grounds for divorce.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

Yes, my ex was under the same misconception as well.

"I think you're a great guy and all, but I just haven't been happy lately, so..."

Oh.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:06 PM (GBteo)

198 That's what my ex said too, Insomniac. He got the house and the boat and the business. I got the kids and no support. Then when his gf dumped him, he wanted us back. It doesn't work that way.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 11:06 PM (PkVlr)

199 ONT must be full of NL fans who could care less about that other league. FWIW, Sox won Game 2 of the ALCS.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:06 PM (3C9q2)

200 A good example of how Tublrinas can take over and ruin companies and entire fields.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJMHDGT629c

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 14, 2018 11:07 PM (itfg0)

201 Hey, Boulder Terlit Hobo, if you're still around... I have a question: Can you recommend any good books on the history of Venice? I'm going through a Venice phase at the moment.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 14, 2018 11:07 PM (87ijN)

202 - You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy. Your vows said something about "in sickness and in health," not, "with god-like powers to make things perfect forever."

That's not what my ex believed. She found it perfectly good grounds for divorce.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)

-----------------

I told my Ex that there was no possible way for me to make her happy, and that the choice to be happy or not was hers alone.

That went over about as well as you may expect.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 11:07 PM (I16G8)

203 Two things. 1. Lead singer on Go Now was Denny Laine who later ended up with McCartney's wings. 2. We need thousands of Pat Condells. Love that guy's bluntness.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:08 PM (tCvhJ)

204 bth.......hope you are feeling better. Take it easy. Don't push yourself too hard. I know you are fairly new on the job but hopefully they will work with you

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:08 PM (c1nDO)

205 Trump is even more authoritarian than Palin's uterus.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, Gynecological Investigator at October 14, 2018 11:08 PM (H5knJ)

206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Hc2xj)

207 190 That poor guy married to the 70-year-old harpy reminds me of Theon Greyjoy, aka Reek. If he had any balls he would have her committed to an insane asylum long ago.

Posted by: Toad-O at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (cct0t)


The question why do husbands die before their wives has been answered.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Ss+Em)

208 I told my Ex that there was no possible way for me to make her happy, and that the choice to be happy or not was hers alone.

That went over about as well as you may expect.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 11:07 PM (I16G

I tried to have that convo as well -- "you know, happiness is a "me" thing, not a "other people" thing -- you're setting yourself up for failure if you're looking for your own happiness in other people. If you're not happy, that's not my fault."

She didn't buy it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (GBteo)

209 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Hc2xj)

:-O

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (GBteo)

210 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Hc2xj)


For real? My God.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (TdMsT)

211 "- You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy."

That conclusion depends on more evidence. If the spouse was a happy person before they married, then it may be that the other dragged them down. On the other hand, some are just determined to be unhappy their entire lives, no matter who they're with. Only advice is to stay away from those people.

2 people can only live together successfully if they've both got the ability to live apart successfully. Any who move in with someone in order to make up for something lacking in themselves (and oh so many do) is guaranteeing future heartache and disaster. Just something I've watched happen countless times over the years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (V2Yro)

212 199... How seriously can you take a league where pitchers don't bat?

(Runs and hides)

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 11:11 PM (V+03K)

213 Music is the traveller crossing our world
Meeting so many people breeding disease

Posted by: zmdavid at October 14, 2018 11:11 PM (xqRaG)

214 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Infidel


I guess he didn't get any leg at Thanksgiving, either.

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 11:11 PM (r5HvL)

215 186 Wasn't that Peter Jackson's BrainDead when he was fighting zombies with a lawn mower ?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (ykYG2)

Dead Alive.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

216 The police are not obligated to protect anyone. You cannot rely on the police to protect you or your loved ones. Castle rock vs Gonzales. Is the case everyone needs to know about. The only person that you can rely on to protect you is you.(or your loved ones)

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at October 14, 2018 11:12 PM (0OmEj)

217 Repost:

Trump went on 60 Minutes and did his usual thing of never giving in on the premise asked and giving bull rush answers that most people will agree make sense.

Interlocutor Stahl kept repeating questions with loaded premises and, to most people, looked like a badgering ass.

By the end, she was dewy wet.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 11:12 PM (1UZdv)

218 Infidel,

Ugh. Just ugh.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 11:12 PM (PkVlr)

219 176 >> he has also shifted the entire polity more decisively toward the authoritarian style of government

?! I wasn't expecting that twist. Is it just projection all the way down with those guys?

Posted by: t-bird at October 14, 2018 11:00 PM (98WNR)


Number of court orders Trump has ignored? Zero

Now, about the last guy in that job....

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2018 11:12 PM (Z4rgH)

220 100 Telling your intern to "suck it" isn't an abuse of power? Dragging the country into a months-long perjury debacle and impeachment proceedings isn't?

Just. Go. Away, Hillary, you sociopathic enabling monster.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


Hillary's excuse is that 22 year old Monica L. was an adult. The thing is, Bill wasn't a 17 year old high school kid either.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 11:12 PM (+lVUW)

221 Thanksgiving update from last week. My SIL sent our side of the family a message about what to bring to dinner and that politics and cellphones at the table are BANNED.

I am guessing that my brother said something.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 11:13 PM (/+bwe)

222 For real, Ladyl. Was a long time ago, but that visual will never leave my mind. He's dead now. Not from me, died with the chick he was boning.

Not sure why.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:13 PM (Hc2xj)

223 Thing......we will be in Venice on Friday for 3 days

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:13 PM (c1nDO)

224 Good God almighty I need to get a life.



I found this quote interesting:



- You haven't failed as a spouse if your partner isn't happy. Your
vows said something about "in sickness and in health," not, "with
god-like powers to make things perfect forever."



That's not what my ex believed. She found it perfectly good grounds for divorce.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:03 PM (NWiLs)


Every friend of mine who ended up divorced had a chick in his life that was the same....fucking....way. Houses, cars, vacations, it didn't matter. It was all about mutually assured misery. They want a pain free life. No downs, all ups. You're in good company, and not unique by any means.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:14 PM (9Om/r)

225 222 For real, Ladyl. Was a long time ago, but that visual will never leave my mind. He's dead now. Not from me, died with the chick he was boning.

Not sure why.
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:13 PM (Hc2xj)


Good riddance.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:14 PM (TdMsT)

226 Thanksgiving update from last week. My SIL sent our side of the family a message about what to bring to dinner and that politics and cellphones at the table are BANNED.

I am guessing that my brother said something.

Posted by: NaughtyPine


Well, they ARE kinda crunchy.

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (r5HvL)

227 53
So did anyone catch Trump on 60 Minutes? Word is he bulldozed Leslie Stahl.


Posted by: JoeF. at October 14, 2018 10:31 PM (o1fzk)

I saw a bit of it while at a bar/restaurant having dinner.
I LOLed when I read (on the closed captioning) that one of his regrets was that the press treats him unfairly/badly.

I couldn't/didn't pay attention to all of it, but it looked like he was really giving it back to Stahl, and her questions were more of the 'gotcha' type.
Dumb bitch.

These interviewers are too stupid to have an interesting conversation with their interviewee.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (8iiMU)

228 98 Is anyone else sick to death of the left's unending, gratuitous war against men?
Posted by: Ladyl


Melania should have demanded to be interviewed by a woman. That seems to be a thing now.
Oh wait, liberal journalists are all a bunch of girls.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (+lVUW)

229 what's the problem with Trump being authoritarian? He authored a couple of books, didn't he? It's no worse than saying that Obama is a blowhard.

Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (L01V2)

230 2 people can only live together successfully if they've both got the ability to live apart successfully. Any who move in with someone in order to make up for something lacking in themselves (and oh so many do) is guaranteeing future heartache and disaster. Just something I've watched happen countless times over the years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (V2Yro)

Lots of truth in that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (GBteo)

231 Andrew Sullivan,

You should have said Sarah Palin's ovaries are more authoritarian than Trump's testicles. You should have a restraining orde that keeps you 500 miles from female reproduction components. Oh wait, you haven't been near a female's reproduction organs since you were born and thrown into a cage of homo pedophiles.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:15 PM (tCvhJ)

232 Yes, my ex was under the same misconception as well.

"I think you're a great guy and all, but I just haven't been happy lately, so..."

Oh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:06 PM (GBteo)

Yeah. So much for that "for better or worse, 'til death do us part" thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (NWiLs)

233 Posted this in the Book Thread to get recommendations from the daywalkers, so looking for recommendations from the ONT crowd.

Looking for book suggestions on the following topics:

1st, Good biographies on Confederate Generals, with autobiographies being even better;

2nd, Books/writings from pre-Civil War America where slavery was either justified or condemned based on Christian teaching/theology; and

3rd, A good history of the growth/development of Christianity before Emperor Constantine.

If anyone has any good suggestions, let me know.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (itfg0)

234 I told my Ex that there was no possible way for me to make her happy, and that the choice to be happy or not was hers alone

It isn't just spouses that demand to be made happy. My mother and her older sister were narcissists of this type. I figured out part way through high school that they used their claims of unhappiness as a club to beat others into doing what they wanted, and that they were never satisfied with anything anyone else did to try to "make them happy." I basically kept my distance from them after I finished college, but unfortunately you can't divorce blood relatives.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (3C9q2)

235 I tried to have that convo as well -- "you know, happiness is a "me" thing, not a "other people" thing -- you're setting yourself up for failure if you're looking for your own happiness in other people. If you're not happy, that's not my fault."

She didn't buy it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (GBteo)

-------------

In my case, I even tried to ask what I could do that would make her happy. Her response? "Help with the housework".

This from a woman that did not work, to a husband who was working 70 hours a week at the time.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (I16G8)

236
Trump on Sixty Minutes

I thought I saw a link to the full video, but didn't bookmark it, and now it is buried under hundreds of short, edited clips.

Cbs has a transcript which is not the same as seeing and hearing it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8svg9vw

Posted by: Delton Klugenovski at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (oYD2h)

237 Big line of storms moving through Texas tonight. Not here yet, but I can see it on the northwestern horizon. Lightning is so intense - almost constant flashes - that I imagine this must have been about what it was like to watch the Western Front in WW1 from about 20 or 30 miles away. And it's not just hits to the ground, the lightning is arcing back and forth through the tops of the clouds constantly. Impressive show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (V2Yro)

238 Infidel......did you tell me that story and I forgot?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:17 PM (c1nDO)

239 Every friend of mine who ended up divorced had a chick in his life that was the same....fucking....way. Houses, cars, vacations, it didn't matter. It was all about mutually assured misery. They want a pain free life. No downs, all ups. You're in good company, and not unique by any means.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:14 PM (9Om/r)

Yep.

Some people (maybe even a lot of people) are just generally unhappy people, and as they say -- misery lives company.

And of course it's easy to blame the people closest to you for your lack of happiness.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:17 PM (GBteo)

240 My previous marriage started out good, but as time went on she started getting paranoid and abusive. Nothing I did seemed to make any difference. About two years after we split up, she was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic.

Posted by: Toad-O at October 14, 2018 11:17 PM (cct0t)

241 You can definitely make your spouse miserable. I know; I've done it. But you can't make them happy; that really is an individual thing. At least that's my present thinking.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 14, 2018 11:17 PM (H5knJ)

242 @166

Pete Davidson is one of the nastiest of nastiest assholes in the SNL universe of scum.

Somewhere between Seth Meyers and Tina Fey.


Hate that dude.


Hope he takes a fistful of Xanax and washes it down with a 5th of vodka.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 14, 2018 11:18 PM (kT3/m)

243 I don't know Venice history except for "Crusade IV: Oops We Plundered The Wrong City, Sorry"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 11:18 PM (ykYG2)

244 Campuses started setting up "safe spaces" well before 2015, when the news hit our media in earnest: College students were literally taking shelter from the possibility of hearing opinions they might disagree with.

For all the mockery the idea received, we're seeing that principle extended to the real world. The recent outbursts on our streets have their root in the idea that only one opinion is the correct one and all others must be shut down.

Posted by: SMOD at October 14, 2018 11:19 PM (e8kgV)

245 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (V2Yro)

It snowed most of the day here. If it's any consolation

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 11:19 PM (Ss+Em)

246 How seriously can you take a league where pitchers don't bat?

I don't take the AL seriously; I'm an NL fan. I was just surprised that no one else on the thread had said anything about the game until I checked in.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:20 PM (3C9q2)

247 wds, no. I don't think I have ever spoken about that in the past 10 yrs.

Glad your mother is doing better last I heard. You must be looking forward to your trip.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:20 PM (Hc2xj)

248 2 people can only live together successfully if
they've both got the ability to live apart successfully. Any who move
in with someone in order to make up for something lacking in themselves
(and oh so many do) is guaranteeing future heartache and disaster.
Just something I've watched happen countless times over the years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (V2Yro)


Totally this. If you find somebody who can exist, or be happy in their own space then you're golden, but if you marry a chick that spends every waking moment wondering about what the man in her life is doing, you are truly and completely fucked.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:21 PM (9Om/r)

249
I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.

Posted by: ALH


If I got one, they would have to use a belt sander.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 14, 2018 11:21 PM (LsBY9)

250 241 You can definitely make your spouse miserable. I know; I've done it. But you can't make them happy; that really is an individual thing. At least that's my present thinking."

There's an unfortunate asymmetry here that's built into us. It's simply a whole lot easier to make most guys happy than it is to make most women happy. No getting around that.

(and those men who insist on being unhappy even when they've got everything they should want I just have no sympathy for)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:22 PM (V2Yro)

251 184 Navy basic video from 1955, for gun crews (remove space):
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=N8XRDipD0EU
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 11:02 PM (0ReGO)


Thanks, that was very interesting.

Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (sdi6R)

252 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.



No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Hc2xj)





For real? My God.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (TdMsT)

Been there, done that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (qUahL)

253 OK thanks a lot.

I just finished Thomas Madden's book, and I'm looking for others. I have the audible version of Roger Crowley's _City of Fortune_ but I think somehow the Fourth Crusade is the wrong place to start the book, which is where he does it.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (87ijN)

254 This is my second marriage (been together 15 years, made it official 2 years ago). If we have a disagreement, we can actually resolve it. Because as someone stated previously, we are two individuals who love each other and actually communicate

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (c1nDO)

255 Totally this. If you find somebody who can exist, or be happy in their own space then you're golden, but if you marry a chick that spends every waking moment wondering about what the man in her life is doing, you are truly and completely fucked.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:21 PM (9Om/r)

Yeah, learned that the hard way. She wouldn't even go to the grocery store by herself most of the time.

"Hey, can I swing by on my way home from work and pick you up so we can buy some chicken at the store?"

"Why? I just got home from work and am reading the news."

"Yeah, but I hate the grocery store."

"Who doesn't?"

bitchbitchbitch

"Okay, fine, I'll put my shoes back on and wait for you to get home so I can go to the grocery store with you."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (GBteo)

256 Enrico was awesome though. He really did settle all family business.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (87ijN)

257 For real? My God.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (TdMsT)

Been there, done that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (qUahL)


#YouToo? Holy crap!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (TdMsT)

258 at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (TdMsT)

Been there, done that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (qUahL)

--------

Is this an epidemic?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (rQM9Y)

259 Singer Ariana Grande and comedian Pete Davidson have reportedly ended their relationship and called off their engagement, according to reports from TMZ and People. "Sources close to the former couple tell us AG and PD split this weekend, with both parties acknowledging that it simply was not the right time for their relationship to take off," TMZ announced. "We're told the two still have love for each other, but things are over romantically."
Posted by: mallfly the Queen of Kings at October 14, 2018 10:56 PM (L01V2)


These interracial relationships between humans and Time Lords rarely work out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (/qEW2)

260 You'll be on the notification list since you've got an account already. I was hoping you'd be able to make it out to the last one too. But we're all so - relatively - close that we could almost just meet up every few months in a less "formal" setting, just an evening dinner meet-up. I don't mind driving out there.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:02

Thanks! Barring a blizzard, most places are an easy drive. Except Pontiac, which seems surrounded by construction at all seasons.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 11:25 PM (/+bwe)

261 I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.



Posted by: ALH



If I got one, they would have to use a belt sander.



Posted by: Hadrian----You feeet! They ugly!! Only two dollar mo'.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 11:25 PM (9rIkM)

262 types

Deletes

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 11:25 PM (PkVlr)

263 Totally this. If you find somebody who can exist, or be happy in their own space then you're golden, but if you marry a chick that spends every waking moment wondering about what the man in her life is doing, you are truly and completely fucked.

THIS, I was in an organization with a lady. She was clerk and recorder after that, then Treasurer, now running for congress. Dated dad's local bff yrs ago. Was even at my home for dinner a few time. Her nickname became "Play Misty for Me." Not voting for her.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:25 PM (Hc2xj)

264 So I've never cheated on a significant other, but I imagine that if I were to do such a thing, I would not do it in my own house, as that would seem to significantly increase the risk of getting caught. No?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (GBteo)

265 It snowed most of the day here. If it's any consolation

We got the tail end of Hurricane Michael on Friday and Saturday-- pouring rain for two days. It's probably done messing with Atlantic Canada by now too.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (3C9q2)

266 anyways, I'm out, ONT. Back to the grind in the AM.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (GBteo)

267 he has also shifted the entire polity more decisively toward the authoritarian style of government.

Andrew Sullivan


LOL. I love hearing the leftturds keep repeating this silliness. It's as funny as Barky wearing flag pins and calling his opponents - you know, patriots - traitors. Barky knew about as much about America as you're average Indonesian (though he really sounded more like he was raised in Argentina or Venezuela).

These idiots can't find anything to actually say against Trump so they are left with nothing but making up patently stupid shit like this. I'm surprised Power Glutes didn't throw a little "Russian Collusion" in.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (iXQC4)

268 258 at October 14, 2018 11:10 PM (TdMsT)

Been there, done that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:23 PM (qUahL)

--------

Is this an epidemic?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (rQM9Y)

Wasn't me. Better than even chance my ex was getting some strange dick, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (NWiLs)

269 264 So I've never cheated on a significant other, but I imagine that if I were to do such a thing, I would not do it in my own house, as that would seem to significantly increase the risk of getting caught. No?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (GBteo)

----------

There's always the public library.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (rQM9Y)

270
These interracial relationships between humans and Time Lords rarely work out.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM


She thought she could regenerate him.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (4mUNO)

271 Wow Infidel! I am so sorry. You did tell me he was a low life. But wow!

Yes, getting excited for trip. So much to do though. Trip to Iowa didn't help but was well worth it. So glad to be there with mom and my family

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (c1nDO)

272 I have autobiographies of Grant (P.C. Headly), Sheridan (Hergesheimer), and Jubal Early (?) in the To Read queue.

A couple of memoirs of the war, a very rare 'Reminiscences of a Rebel' (Dunaway), and 'The Song of the Rappahannock', (Dodd)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (gdP3k)

273 I realized that marriage was unworkable for me any way when I saw so many get divorced because one or the other (mostly the women) were "unhappy".

I figure I couldn't make myself happy whenever I wanted to let alone someone else.

So I said: "no thanks" and let those women be unsatisfied with someone else.

My life improved 100% after I made that decision.

I'm lonely (sometimes) but that can be fixed even if only temporary. And if I get really melancholy, I'll buy a dog.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (sgZqZ)

274 I live in a leftist neighborhood, but I am always meeting conservatives here. It gives me hope.
Posted by: Ladyl


There are probably even more than you realize. In a liberal area people are afraid of being called racist, misogynistic, homophobes,

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 11:27 PM (+lVUW)

275 LadyL, Miley and Infidel
It happens to guys too.
Last, and final, partner I've had, we spent two years negotiating moving in together. We'd both had multiple godawful marriages and relationships. We communicated rather than just talked. We didn't actually argue. A spat now and then but always resolved with humor and grace. We laughed a lot.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 14, 2018 11:28 PM (gNvJI)

276 275 LadyL, Miley and Infidel
It happens to guys too.
Last, and final, partner I've had, we spent two years negotiating moving in together. We'd both had multiple godawful marriages and relationships. We communicated rather than just talked. We didn't actually argue. A spat now and then but always resolved with humor and grace. We laughed a lot.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at October 14, 2018 11:28 PM (gNvJI)


I've led a charmed life, it seems...

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:29 PM (TdMsT)

277 That bit about a spouse doing the dirty in their own house - I would be mad not just because of the deed, but because they were so unbelievably stupid and disrespectful. You couldn't got a room if you had to? Maybe it's a thing with me, I hate stupidity directed at me almost more than anything else. It's like when, at various times, people (whether personal or business) have lied to me and I know it. I almost have to give someone credit when they've really put a lot of effort into concocting a really good lie, that almost should have worked. And at other times my reaction has been "I can't believe you could disrespect me so much that you didn't even put any effort at all in coming up with a half way decent lie for my benefit, you f'ing idiot."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:30 PM (V2Yro)

278 #YouToo? Holy crap!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (TdMsT)

Yes m'am!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:30 PM (qUahL)

279 An expert witness for the prosecution, Sir Roy Meadow, argued that the odds of SIDS claiming two children from such an affluent family were 1 in 73 million, likening it to the odds of backing an 80-1 horse in the Grand National four years in a row and winning every time. The jury convicted Clark to life in prison.

But the Royal Statistical Society issued a statement after the verdict insisting that Meadow had erred in his calculation and that there was "no statistical basis" for his stated figure. Clark's conviction was overturned on appeal in January 2003, and the case has become a canonical example of the consequences of flawed statistical reasoning.


The first problem is that SIDS is not any sort of real "disease" so it's hard to put any sort of statistical figures on it. But that was the defense attorney's responsibility ... or whatever crazy sort of thing they have in Britain.

Of course, in Britain, the odds of two infants going to the hospital for runny noses and ending up dead is only about 2:1.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2018 11:30 PM (iXQC4)

280 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (GBteo)

My experience has been that sometimes (when cheating) the one who's married may try to get caught.

Don't ask me what they're thinking but I know it happens.

So beware. All your care in hiding your affair may come to naught because she's dropping hints like a pine tree drops needles for her husband to pick up.

This can be dangerous.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:31 PM (sgZqZ)

281 Is this an epidemic?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (rQM9Y)

It was a lifetime ago, in a world far, far away.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:31 PM (qUahL)

282 These interracial relationships between humans and Time Lords rarely work out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 11:24 PM (/qEW2)

OK, I LOLed.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 14, 2018 11:31 PM (8iiMU)

283 Even worse than that, wtf are you going to do IF YOUR CHILDREN WALKED IN WHILE YOU WERE FUCKING ANOTHER PERSON IN THE HOME???

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 11:31 PM (PkVlr)

284 Yes, it was bad. Dad and brother were on they're way into the house. Instead we started moving shit. Been single for over ten yrs. It's ok most of the time.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:32 PM (Hc2xj)

285 Wasn't me. Better than even chance my ex was getting some strange dick, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (NWiLs)

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I saw Strange Dick open for The Offspring at the Golden Bear in '88.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:32 PM (rQM9Y)

286 I got a pedicure today. Makes me feel so pampered.



Posted by: ALH



If I got one, they would have to use a belt sander.

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Do you notice any difference on nights the moon is full?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 11:32 PM (+y/Ru)

287 If I took my shoes off in a pedicure place they'd all flee out the door.

I have some very gnarly toes.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (sgZqZ)

288 I agree that if partners are people you are not happy on their own, they won't be happy in a relationship. Pro tip after 51 years of compatible marriage: share your mutual interests and allow room for your individual interests.

And yes,we old married people still have sex, but not as often when we in our 50s. Once a week instead of 7 times a week.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (tCvhJ)

289 So I've never cheated on a significant other, but I
imagine that if I were to do such a thing, I would not do it in my own
house, as that would seem to significantly increase the risk of getting
caught. No?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (GBteo)


That falls under the "Don't shit where you eat" clause.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (9Om/r)

290 Infidel....your ex was Bucky Rockefeller?

*I keed, I keeeeeed*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (QzJWU)

291 Wasn't me. Better than even chance my ex was getting some strange dick, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 11:26 PM (NWiLs)

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Just about sure mine wasn't. She used to joke about her Mom, and how after her menonpause at his age of 55, he didn't get any from her at all. I replied that knowing the guy, that just meant he got plenty of strange after that. He was a succesful Commercial General Construction Contractor, who had his own plane and used it often.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (I16G8)

292
If anyone has any good suggestions, let me know.
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (kXPT5)

293 It was a lifetime ago, in a world far, far away.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:31


Yes, Miley. Seems to be just a bad distant memory now.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:35 PM (Hc2xj)

294 so. I've got a decision to make.

Want to buy my first deer rifle.

.243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (sgZqZ)

295 IF YOUR CHILDREN WALKED IN WHILE YOU WERE FUCKING ANOTHER PERSON IN THE HOME???

There is a reason why Freud referred to children's witnessing adult sexual intercourse as the primal scene. According to ol' Siggy, kids are traumatized by it because they interpret the act as a form of violence.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (3C9q2)

296 294 so. I've got a decision to make.

Want to buy my first deer rifle.

.243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (sgZqZ)

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Have you given any consideration to the Panzerfaust?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:37 PM (rQM9Y)

297 >>Want to buy my first deer rifle.

>>.243 - .270 - .308

>>a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.


Mule Deer or Whitetail?

Plains or Woods?



Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:37 PM (XShdm)

298 Whitetail, woods.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:38 PM (sgZqZ)

299 Time to sleep on the little couch. The alarm is set for 530 am.

Hugs to the horde.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:38 PM (Hc2xj)

300 I'm changing my nic back.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (tKF1g)

301 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM (Hc2xj)

Weeeelll, I assume that you are an ette for one thing.....

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (bgJ0E)

302 you know, more frightening that the insane, illogical rant that this old crone went off on is that she wrote it down and sent it off for others to read.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (MTjB1)

303 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:37 PM (rQM9Y)

Is a panzerfaust centerfire?

Has to be centerfire unless muzzle loader. Wait! Panzerfausts are muzzle loader?

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (sgZqZ)

304 a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (sgZqZ)

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.308 for jakee308.

Anyway, very common caliber with ammunition readily available.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (WEBkv)

305 Basement Cat,

Farm kids know their parents have sex because they see animals having sex and then babies. It is all rather simple.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:40 PM (tCvhJ)

306 Yes, Miley. Seems to be just a bad distant memory now.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:35 PM (Hc2xj)

God, yes. I don't even think about it, unless it's spoken of, as here tonight.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:40 PM (qUahL)

307 Goodnight Infidel.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 11:40 PM (tKF1g)

308 someone needs to hold some sort of competency hearing for her. she certainly should not have a drivers license.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 11:40 PM (MTjB1)

309 .243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.
Posted by: jakee308
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I really like the .243 for a number of reasons, but the .270 gets the nod, simply because with proper loading, it's suitable for all NA game.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:41 PM (Vhoaq)

310 At the moment watching a true classic on TCM, this one should really be the subject of one of our movie review threads.

The Robot vs the Aztec Mummy. In Spanish. With subtitles. and lots of evil villain laughter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:41 PM (V2Yro)

311 For that I would be fine with a .308 or an .06.

Unless you don't mind the occasional tracking job on a larger buck? Then the 243 is an awful nice gun. And since I know you will be doing your own loading, I would have no problem endorsing it if you wanted a light carry and load.

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:41 PM (XShdm)

312 I'm changing my nic back.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (tKF1g)

Welcome back from boofland!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:42 PM (qUahL)

313 Weeeelll, I assume that you are an ette for one thing.....

Yeah, if Andy Sullivan would have written that it'd have a whole different meaning....

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (V2Yro)

314 If you're still here, Ladyl, I replied to your provocative email.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (qUahL)

315 A chainsaw-wielding Tennessee father had to have his leg amputated after his son ran him over with a lawn mower, police said.

LOL. That street must be a blast to live on. Just throw an ax and a machete on the lawn, ring the doorbell, scream, "He called you an asshole!", and watch the antics from across the street inside a heavily armored vehicle.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (iXQC4)

316 296 294 so. I've got a decision to make.

Want to buy my first deer rifle.

.243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (sgZqZ)

MK19 40MM AGL

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (bgJ0E)

317 Farm kids know their parents have sex because they see animals having sex and then babies. It is all rather simple.
Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:40 PM (tCvhJ)


The presenting of the chicken parts thing seems pretty straightforward.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (y87Qq)

318 Yeah. me too.

The .243 seems a bit undersize and the .308 I've shot was not fun. Forget a 30-06 or any of the other hotter ones.

I'm a sissy these days when it comes to recoil.

It's the arthritis. Any bruising or sprain will cause a pinpoint pain point the next day or two and takes forever to ease up.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (sgZqZ)

319 I just prefer to anchor whatever I am shooting at. I hate the mule-kick, very little blood tracking scenario.

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:44 PM (XShdm)

320 35 On the radio today, I heard a clip of Bernie Sanders telling people that one-party rule is bad and if people want the government to represent them, not just represent the Rich, they need to elect Democrats.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (4HMW


It's funny. I don't recall Comrade Bernie having a problem with one-party rule in 2008. 'Course, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 14, 2018 11:44 PM (h2Bdk)

321 Caliber choice for hunting is if all things being equal, investigate each calibers barrel life.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:44 PM (tCvhJ)

322 ...
Want to buy my first deer rifle.

.243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.


Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (sgZqZ)




Let the terrain and vegetation help guide. I'd rule out the .243, not because it's not a great cartridge, 'cause it is.

But deer is kind of it's upper limits. .270 has killed thousands of elk, and the .308 is right behind in that regard.

VERY slight edge to .308 if weight is an issue, as it uses the "short" action, whereas the .270 resides in the .30-'06 length receiver.

.270 shoots faster, flatter, but with lighter bullets.

.308 is only 50 fps slower than the '06, and shoots damn near any weight bullet in the .308 diameter.

Hope that helps?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 11:45 PM (QzJWU)

323 .257 Roberts might be the perfect load, then.

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:45 PM (XShdm)

324 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Infidel


Geez, even Don Draper did his dirty bastard stuff away from his home.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (+lVUW)

325 I could go for .410 using slugs but I have my doubts it would have enough energy at any distance. Altho in the woods here distance is going to be < 100yds.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (sgZqZ)

326
At the moment watching a true classic on TCM, this one should really be the subject of one of our movie review threads.

The Robot vs the Aztec Mummy. In Spanish. With subtitles. and lots of evil villain laughter.
Posted by: Tom Servo


MST3K did that movie. It was a dubbed version.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (4mUNO)

327 It's the arthritis. Any bruising or sprain will cause a pinpoint pain point the next day or two and takes forever to ease up.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:43 PM (sgZqZ)

If you are hunting forest land I would avoid the .243 and stick with the .270.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (Ss+Em)

328 Music is the traveller crossing our world
Meeting so many people breeding disease

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Seger math. He was moving eight miles a minute for months at a time. That's 480 mph. Who gives a rodent's rear end if you're running against the wind? I nean, let's say you're riding into the teeth of a 150 mph hurricane. You're still making 330 mph! That's pretty good time under any circumstances.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (+y/Ru)

329 295 IF YOUR CHILDREN WALKED IN WHILE YOU WERE FUCKING ANOTHER PERSON IN THE HOME???

There is a reason why Freud referred to children's witnessing adult sexual intercourse as the primal scene. According to ol' Siggy, kids are traumatized by it because they interpret the act as a form of violence.
Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM (3C9q2)


Back when I was in school, Freud was considered thoroughly discredited. He's making something of a comeback, though. Not sure I can agree with this bit of philosophizing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (h2Bdk)

330 I'm changing my nic back.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 11:39 PM (tKF1g)

Welcome back from boofland!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 14, 2018 11:42 PM (qUahL)

Thanks!

It's spelled 'Boofffffland', by the way.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (tKF1g)

331 It's funny. I don't recall Comrade Bernie having a
problem with one-party rule in 2008. 'Course, my memory isn't what it
used to be.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 14, 2018 11:44 PM (h2Bdk)

Hes a definite Chairman Mao hats for everyone kind of guy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (9Om/r)

332 That looks great, and it's really not far from either Dearborn or DIA. I'll put it on the list, thanks!

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It's actually an amazing restaurant but it's mostly Polish food. You know, meat and potato stuff. Although there are some vegetarian options. I've been going there since I was a child.

Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (QKV7o)

333 Farm kids know their parents have sex because they see animals having sex and then babies.

City kids do too, if there are stray cats or dogs in the neighborhood. I just threw Freud out there because he was a pretty strange dude in a lot of ways-- and some shrinks still refer to the "primal scene" to explain some of their patients' symptoms.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:48 PM (3C9q2)

334
Back when I was in school, Freud was considered thoroughly discredited. He's making something of a comeback, though. Not sure I can agree with this bit of philosophizing.

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Even Freud eventually admitted that psychoanalysis was a useless scam.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:48 PM (rQM9Y)

335 I could go for .410 using slugs but I have my doubts it would have enough energy at any distance. Altho in the woods here distance is going to be
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (sgZqZ)


Why not a 20ga slug gun, then?

Not that I make a commission on them or anything, but it seems like a decent enough choice in brush at that range.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:48 PM (y87Qq)

336 Good Night Infidel. Sleep tight

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:49 PM (c1nDO)

337 live in a leftist neighborhood, but I am always meeting conservatives here. It gives me hope.
Posted by: Ladyl

My neighborhood is changing for the better, except for the hoarder next door. We used to have vandalism, drunken spousal fights, and drug dealers. Now kids run up and down the street and parents are outside chatting and watching the neighborhood.

A week ago, I noticed a neighbor outside who has a plumbing company truck. I stopped and asked him if he could inspect my crawl space. I have been wanting to check the dingbat plumbing job but I still cannot put a lot of pressure on my shin.

He said it looked good, told me how to remove the traps if I ever needed to, and charged me nothing! Then he showed me pics of the type of plumbing he does and I realized I had gotten a surgeon to make a housecall.

He remembered when the street and its parallel one was cruddy. But the adults back then were mostly white collar, whereas we now have construction workers, carpenters, nurses, and MAGA hat wearers.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 14, 2018 11:50 PM (/+bwe)

338 .270 at 80-85% with a Trophy Boded Bear Calw is a pretty reliable, drop'em in their tracks load.

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:50 PM (XShdm)

339 292
If anyone has any good suggestions, let me know.
Posted by: The Political Hat
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There may something interesting here, scroll down through the selections:


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Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (kXPT5)


Link doesn't work

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 14, 2018 11:51 PM (itfg0)

340 It's funny. I don't recall Comrade Bernie having a problem with one-party rule in 2008. 'Course, my memory isn't what it used to be.
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 14, 2018 11:44 PM (h2Bdk)

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I don't either. In 2016, he seemed to have no problem taking a dive from the nomination process either, as it was pretty clear that his 3rd house, a beach place, was his payoff for Shutting TFU about the DNC rigging the process for Felonia.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 11:51 PM (I16G8)

341 Hunting in dense brush or forest it tends to be less than 75 yards and often under 50 yards. I stalk in dense brush situations with a 357 magnum lever action. 180 grain semi jacketed soft point. Recoil is light.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:51 PM (tCvhJ)

342 you know the amazon prime delivery thing is really convenient but has the unintended effect of creating awkward situations.

sometimes people are delivering a large order while you are entering or exiting and there is a awkward moment where you acknowledge each other, then you leave to let them keep stacking stuff by your door.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 11:51 PM (MTjB1)

343 Garrett.... it's actually easier right now, to find 6.5 Creedmore on the shelf, than any .257 Roberts, which IS a fine round, by the way.

The Creedmore and the .260 Remington, might just have sewed up the proverbial "sweet spot" of centerfire exterior ballistics.

I mean, they're so close to "do everything perfect", that it's getting hard to wrest out further gains by new designs.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 11:53 PM (QzJWU)

344 Y5!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:53 PM (c1nDO)

345 Even Freud eventually admitted that psychoanalysis was a useless scam.

I thought it was interesting that given Freud's low opinion of women, the only one of his kids who followed him into psychiatry was his daughter Anna.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:53 PM (3C9q2)

346 It's actually an amazing restaurant but it's mostly Polish food. You know, meat and potato stuff.
Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (QKV7o)


Cool. Imma get the golabki if we all end up going.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:54 PM (y87Qq)

347 Even Freud eventually admitted that psychoanalysis was a useless scam.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 11:48 PM (rQM9Y)


Except for behaviorists, all forms of psychotherapy have been found to be essentially useless.

But people go to psychotherapists because they have to pay a "friend" to listen them, not because anyone has any expectation taht they are going to get "better".

On the other hand, the psychiatrists are very effective ... at something. They use drugs so powerful that they can't help but have a major effect. Of course, they're drugging society to stupidity and even worse insanity ... but, dem's de breaks. On the bright side, having more lunatic spree killers running around adds a certain "electricity" to life ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2018 11:55 PM (iXQC4)

348 Even Freud eventually admitted that psychoanalysis was a useless scam.

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Now, if only Al would do the same.

Gore Declares 'Global Emergency'...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 11:55 PM (+y/Ru)

349 Doesn't Weatherby make a .257 Mag, too? That would make a nice open coutry rifle.

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:55 PM (XShdm)

350 328 Music is the traveller crossing our world
Meeting so many people breeding disease

-
Seger math. He was moving eight miles a minute for months at a time. That's 480 mph. Who gives a rodent's rear end if you're running against the wind? I nean, let's say you're riding into the teeth of a 150 mph hurricane. You're still making 330 mph! That's pretty good time under any circumstances.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (+y/Ru)


I calculated that Jefferson Airplane's song "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds" works out to 216 mph. Not that impressive for an airplane.

Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 11:56 PM (sdi6R)

351
Gore Declares 'Global Emergency'...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler




Urgent, urgent, emergency, urgent, urgent, emergency
So urgent, emergency

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 14, 2018 11:57 PM (4mUNO)

352 I could go for .410 using slugs but I have my doubts it would have enough energy at any distance. Altho in the woods here distance is going to be
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:46 PM (sgZqZ)

Why not a 20ga slug gun, then?

Not that I make a commission on them or anything, but it seems like a decent enough choice in brush at that range.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:48 PM (y87Qq)

If you're hunting with a shotgun, might I suggest a 12ga Streetsweeper. Sure, it requires a tax stamp and is downright illegal in a lot of States, but you don't have to aim it.

Posted by: Hilton R. Walker at October 14, 2018 11:57 PM (tKF1g)

353 one delivery guy was dropping off a very large order of cases of bottled water to us.

he callled at 6 on a weekend morning to let us know he could not get into our building so I staggered down to let him in.

when I go there I asked him if he was familiar with the building and other things. he replied he had delivered to the building many times. great.

then he asks if the building has a cart? nope. do you have a cart for me? nope.

he brings up a couple of cases then bangs on our door to let me know that he needs help carrying it in .

when I told him I was not going to he replied that his back was starting to bother him and he did not want me to have to pay for his back injury. I told him not to worry because I would not.

then he told me he was not going to deliver the rest of the order. I told him that was fine and he could sort it out with amazon.

20 minutes later I checked outside our door and everything was there.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 11:57 PM (MTjB1)

354 Just saw this before bed. The Left has made Herschel Walker political and throwing punches. Terrible move lefties and crybullies This just shows how out of touch they really are about Black folks in America.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/10/14/ herschel-walker-calls-for-cnn-to-take-don- lemon-off-air-over-kanye-comments/

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at October 14, 2018 11:58 PM (/DX2n)

355

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:34 PM (kXPT5)

Link doesn't work
Posted by: The Political Hat
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I blame tinyurl, but I think this one is okay. Again scroll down throught the titles. Interesting.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y73soy8k

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 11:58 PM (vyAx2)

356 >>I calculated that Jefferson Airplane's song "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds" works out to 216 mph. Not that impressive for an airplane.


'Know I love you, baby
yes I do'

Posted by: garrett at October 14, 2018 11:58 PM (XShdm)

357 According to this comparison table http://tinyurl.com/y88fq89h

A 20 gauge has a similar recoil to a .270

But I think the fps on target will be larger.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:59 PM (sgZqZ)

358 rickl,

3/5 in 10 seconds is impressive to a hippie on acid.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 14, 2018 11:59 PM (tCvhJ)

359 Now, if only Al would do the same.

Gore Declares 'Global Emergency'...


He needs a chakra release STAT!

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 14, 2018 11:59 PM (3C9q2)

360 @201 Can you recommend any good books on the history of Venice? I'm going through a Venice phase at the moment.
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I own (and have read) a book called "City of Fortune: How Venice Ruled the Seas", by Roger Crowley. I've no idea whether it's considered a good history of Venice or not, but it was an enjoyable read. It runs from the causes of the Fourth Crusade fiasco to around 1500.

Posted by: junior at October 14, 2018 11:59 PM (aJ+YX)

361 when I told him I was not going to he replied that his back was starting to bother him and he did not want me to have to pay for his back injury. I told him not to worry because I would not.

then he told me he was not going to deliver the rest of the order. I told him that was fine and he could sort it out with amazon.

20 minutes later I checked outside our door and everything was there.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 11:57 PM (MTjB1)


That's freakin' hilarious. How mean of you to expect a man to do his job.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:00 AM (h2Bdk)

362 Just saw this before bed. The Left has made Herschel Walker political and throwing punches. Terrible move lefties and crybullies This just shows how out of touch they really are about Black folks in America.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/10/14/ herschel-walker-calls-for-cnn-to-take-don- lemon-off-air-over-kanye-comments/

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There's only one explanation. Herschel Walker is a racist!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 15, 2018 12:00 AM (+y/Ru)

363 I calculated that Jefferson Airplane's song "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds" works out to 216 mph. Not that impressive for an airplane.
Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 11:56 PM (sdi6R)


Randall Munroe once determined that if an astronaut on the ISS (7.66 km/s) listened to The Proclaimers' I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles), in the 3 minutes and 30 seconds it takes to play the track they will have traveled almost exactly...

...1,000 miles.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 15, 2018 12:01 AM (y87Qq)

364 https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/10/14/ herschel-walker-calls-for-cnn-to-take-don- lemon-off-air-over-kanye-comments/
Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer
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Well, the Dems just lost thousands of Ga. Dawgs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 15, 2018 12:01 AM (vyAx2)

365 actually an amazing restaurant but it's mostly Polish food. You know, meat and potato stuff.
Posted by: shibumi at October 14, 2018 11:47 PM (QKV7o)

Cool. Imma get the golabki if we all end up going.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 11:54 PM

Now my mouth is watering but I have to go to bed soon. I love Polish food.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:01 AM (/+bwe)

366 so even funnier is that this afternoon we were leaving the apartment and someone was delivering the same order. we opened the door and heard someone mumbling a stream of invective as they stacked a case of water by the door. when they stood up it was moe tiny asian woman who was not even 5 feet tall. she was smart enough to have a cart with her and even better her daughter, who was an inch shorter.

we exchanged awkward pleasantries and left. when we got in our car we looked back to see that the woman and her daughter had gone back to their car to get the rest of the order. they were driving a brand new small mercedes suv.

one funny thing is that these to tiny people who spoke American english without any accent were apparently willing do the job that the other guy wasn't.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2018 12:02 AM (MTjB1)

367 One thing I have learned is that recoil is mostly affected by stock design.

I shoot a 7mm rem mag that you would swear was a .243.

...if you had no earadrums.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2018 12:02 AM (XShdm)

368 Yay!
My I P doesn't stay the same
The algorithm is lame
And so once again
I'm not in the top ten
Although I've used many a name

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Good to be home. On a wet, cold night, all the more so.

Dug out the down vest. Gloves! and the furnace is on. Suddenly, it's global freezing! Again.

Anyone got a best-of list for tonight's comments?

Posted by: mindful webworker, so-called at October 15, 2018 12:02 AM (huES0)

369 Off, Gunsmithing sock!

Posted by: Surfperch at October 15, 2018 12:03 AM (tKF1g)

370 [354 Just saw this before bed. The Left has made Herschel Walker political and throwing punches. Terrible move lefties and crybullies This just shows how out of touch they really are about Black folks in America.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/10/14/ herschel-walker-calls-for-cnn-to-take-don- lemon-off-air-over-kanye-comments/
Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at October 14, 2018 11:58 PM (/DX2n)


I think it was insty who pointed out black men would probably not be eager to ride the "no due process for men accused of rape by white women" train, and that the Kavanaugh hearings would probably hurt the Democrats in that demo.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:03 AM (h2Bdk)

371 I calculated that Jefferson Airplane's song "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds" works out to 216 mph. Not that impressive for an airplane.


'Know I love you, baby
yes I do'

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Sometimes the price is 65 dollar
Prices like that make a grown man holler

Well, that's true.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 15, 2018 12:03 AM (+y/Ru)

372 That's freakin' hilarious. How mean of you to expect a man to do his job.
Posted by: Ace's liver at O



completely agree though I have to admit to feeling like something of a dick at the time, because, instinctively, you want to help out. managed to stifle the impulse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2018 12:03 AM (MTjB1)

373 A 20 gauge has a similar recoil to a .270

But I think the fps on target will be larger.
Posted by: jakee308

Hmm, I had a light .270 "Mountain Gun" - nice, flat shooting - kicked like a mule. Much harder than any 20g Ive had.

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (UXFaG)

374 Goodnight, everyone!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (qUahL)

375 Why does Sullivan talk like blowing up Obamacare is a bad thing?

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (2RBkF)

376 There's only one explanation. Herschel Walker is a racist!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 15, 2018 12:00

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His calling out the Lefties about Kanye's support of PDT is classic stuff. They are scared shitless about how many others Kanye may drag off of their plantation.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 15, 2018 12:06 AM (I16G8)

377 @370 I think it was insty who pointed out black men would probably not be
eager to ride the "no due process for men accused of rape by white
women" train, and that the Kavanaugh hearings would probably hurt the
Democrats in that demo.------------------------
I think he even had a link to a piece that quoted Jemele Hill as she belatedly discovered that a group of black men really didn't like what happened to Kavanaugh. Said piece went on to note that black men far and away suffer from false sexual assault accusations (presumably this means instances in which the accuser recants) at a level completely out of proportion with their percentage of the population.

Posted by: junior at October 15, 2018 12:06 AM (aJ+YX)

378 >> I had a light .270 "Mountain Gun" - nice, flat shooting - kicked like a mule.


Those lightweights can be brutal.

I had a a few 7mm before I built mine and they were all just vicious.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2018 12:06 AM (XShdm)

379 Garrett....given that I don't find a Mosin M-44's recoil to be particularly objectionable, I'm still more disposed to favor a well designed stock, whenever possible.

Fits better, shoots better.

Simple, really.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2018 12:07 AM (QzJWU)

380 Good night, Miley.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 15, 2018 12:07 AM (y87Qq)

381 kanye's point is less support Trump and more think for yourself. everyone going after him is more or less arguing black people should not think for themselves.

how desirable a position is that?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2018 12:07 AM (MTjB1)

382 Why does Sullivan talk like blowing up Obamacare is a bad thing?

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (2RBkF)


Because he's a commie, at heart.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 15, 2018 12:08 AM (iXQC4)

383 The ergonomics on the original Model 70 stocks (wood) are great. They generally fire a lot smoother than their Remington and certainly than their Ruger counterparts.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2018 12:08 AM (XShdm)

384 A friend has a Winchester 1400 20 ga. bird gun. Soft shooter. Not what I would choose for deer though, unless the brush was really tight, 20-25 yard shot.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 15, 2018 12:09 AM (gdP3k)

385 If you haven't seen the photo of the Aussie mom who shielded her baby from hail, check WZ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 15, 2018 12:10 AM (+y/Ru)

386 Browning made an A5 model specifically for slug hunting. The .20 ga was a nice little gun for the trees, back east.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2018 12:11 AM (XShdm)

387 201 Can you recommend any good books on the history of Venice? I'm going through a Venice phase at the moment.

John Julius Norwich's A History of Venice is long (almost 700 pages) but has received good reviews; it's an enjoyable read that covers the history of the city from its foundation in the 5th century to 1797, when Napoleon put an end to the Venetian Republic. You could probably find an inexpensive secondhand copy through Alibris or Amazon.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 15, 2018 12:11 AM (3C9q2)

388 Goodnight, everyone!


Posted by: Miley,


Night Miley.

Sleep tight.

Don't let the bedbugs sing showtunes whilst they dance thru your hair !

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 12:13 AM (r5HvL)

389 370
I think it was insty who pointed out black men would probably not be eager to ride the "no due process for men accused of rape by white women" train, and that the Kavanaugh hearings would probably hurt the Democrats in that demo.
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:03 AM (h2Bdk)


On one of the daytime gorilla threads a week or two ago, CBD included an old photo of a black man hanging from a tree with a group of white men standing nearby. The caption read:

"A woman accused him of sexual assault.
That was good enough for us."

It was a pretty gruesome photo and he deleted it after some commenters complained, but it was dead bang accurate and I wish that meme could be spread far and wide.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)

390

Sears Holdings plans to file for bankruptcy protection sometime after midnight Monday morning, according to CNBC.

The company hopes to stay in operations through the holidays while seeking a buyer. Sears' own CEO, Eddie Lampert, could make a bid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2018 12:14 AM (4mUNO)

391 Kanye, et al:
The boobs at CNN are deathly afraid of cracks in their rightthink that has already occurred. I consider it a great gift, that I am witnessing the destruction of the media. My greatest hope is that this is the destruction of the democrat party at the national level.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2018 12:14 AM (rnAwa)

392 Nite Miley

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 15, 2018 12:14 AM (c1nDO)

393 382 Why does Sullivan talk like blowing up Obamacare is a bad thing?

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (2RBkF)

Because he's a commie, at heart.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 15, 2018 12:08 AM (iXQC4)


Sullivan has AIDS. Getting the government to pay for health care is pure self interest. That might not be the only reason, but it's difficult to accept any altruistic excuses at face value.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:15 AM (h2Bdk)

394 Why does Sullivan talk like blowing up Obamacare is a bad thing?

Posted by: Pete in TX at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (2RBkF)

Because he's a commie, at heart.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 15, 2018 12:08 AM

He is HIV positive. I noticed before the 2008 election that my coworkers who were most vocally supporting a national healthcare were those with a lifelong illness like AIDS or diabetes. It is terrifying to think of someday not having insurance.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:16 AM (/+bwe)

395

President Donald Trump is backing off his claim that climate change is a hoax but says he doesn't know if it's man made and suggests that the climate will "change back again."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (4mUNO)

396 I don't understand why people who give themselves AIDS expect for the federal government to pay for their treatment. It's a behavior driven disease.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (PkVlr)

397 Holy crap! I am in synch with the liver of ace!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (/+bwe)

398 Kanye, et al:
The boobs at CNN are deathly afraid of cracks in their rightthink that has already occurred. I consider it a great gift, that I am witnessing the destruction of the media.

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What we need now is for the Donks to take a shellacking and for the media to blame the blacks who didn't march in step.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 15, 2018 12:18 AM (+y/Ru)

399 Sears Holdings plans to file for bankruptcy protection sometime after midnight Monday morning, according to CNBC

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15 years of Eddie Lampert's incompetent management down the drain.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2018 12:19 AM (rQM9Y)

400 397 Holy crap! I am in synch with the liver of ace!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (/+bwe)


Everybody drink!

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:19 AM (h2Bdk)

401 15 years of Eddie Lampert's incompetent management down the drain.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2018 12:19 AM (rQM9Y)


I suspect it worked out just fine for Eddie Lampert.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:20 AM (h2Bdk)

402 15 years of Eddie Lampert's incompetent management down the drain.
Posted by: Cicero
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*weeps*

Posted by: J. C. Higgins at October 15, 2018 12:22 AM (++ggZ)

403 how desirable a position is that?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2018 12:07 AM (MTjB1)

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Ask Chuckie Schumer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2018 12:23 AM (rQM9Y)

404 I don't understand why people who give themselves AIDS expect for the federal government to pay for their treatment. It's a behavior driven disease.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM

They will tell you it is like any STD - or pregnancy, if they dislike breeders.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:23 AM (/+bwe)

405 What is "devastation of democratic norms..." ?

These anti-Trump people haven't anything specific so they have to come up with this bullshit.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:23 AM (2DOZq)

406 junior, saw the stats online somewhere this past week, of course forget the specifics, but: black males 20+% of sexual assault convictions, but 50+% of *acquittals* in such cases. Think that was it. And the lynching analogy was perfectly apt, however brutal, and Candace Owens made it a while ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 15, 2018 12:24 AM (QDnY+)

407 Holy crap! I am in synch with the liver of ace!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (/+bwe)

Everybody drink!
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:19 AM

I have only rum and no ice. Does spiced rum taste good heated? I have to go to bed now and wonder if that would work as a nightcap.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:25 AM (/+bwe)

408 What is "devastation of democratic norms..." ?
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They mean 'Democrat norms'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2018 12:25 AM (vyAx2)

409 @406 junior, saw the stats online somewhere this past week, of course forget the specifics,

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Here's the link. It was a post by Neoneocon over at her new blog location.

https://tinyurl.com/y72mwm33

Posted by: junior at October 15, 2018 12:29 AM (aJ+YX)

410 Lancelot, I was about to say:


* WTF with "destruction of democratic norms"? This is a baseless and weird slander much beloved among the unthinking punditocracy, of which Sullivan has long been a member


* O-care came pre-sabotaged, you idiot (Sullivan) - um it was in all the papers. Disastrously bad "solution" to a problem that didn't exist, introducing major new problems, devastating for millions, exacerbated all existing problems - *all* of which have to do with the destruction of insurance, and its substitution by a frankenstein of some insurance, massive cost shifting, subsidies, etc., implemented by oligopolies, all groaning under massive over-regulation


* WTF with "authoritarian" governance style? One example, please?


* the only destruction of "norms" was the tsunami of lawlessness under Obama, which crested with the unprecedented abuse of the intel and law enforcement tools of the fed. govt. to influence and election and then attempt to negate the results thereof.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 15, 2018 12:29 AM (QDnY+)

411 Right. How did Sullivan get AIDS? For those if us who've been on the Internet awhile, we recall that another gay dude outed Sullivan advertising for anonymous raw sex. But it's America's obligation to pay his healthcare bills. I'd put him in an oven.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:29 AM (H5knJ)

412 Heated spiced rum sounds horrid. Just hit yourself over the head with a hammer

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:30 AM (PkVlr)

413 Wrong! No rum sounds horrid. (Says guy several glasses of rum into the evening.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:32 AM (H5knJ)

414 Ed Sullivan has AIDS ?

"Tonight, on OUR shew...."

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (QYAhh)

415 Infidel #206:
Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.
No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?


In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.

Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.

Posted by: mindful webworker - tales I could (but won't) tell... at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (CafNC)

416 So some here did watch the Trump interview? Word is that he did fine (seems plausible).


Any highlights?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 15, 2018 12:34 AM (QDnY+)

417 yankeefifth,

He didn't have his own dolly on his truck?

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 15, 2018 12:35 AM (+lVUW)

418 I like rum. I have an amazing rum from Venezuela. But heated spiced rum? No way, Jose

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:35 AM (PkVlr)

419 415
In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.

Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.
Posted by: mindful webworker - tales I could (but won't) tell... at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (CafNC)


With the sexes reversed, that sounds like a common plot for a pr0n movie.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)

420 Moslem violence on the streets of Ira... sorry, Brooklyn.
https://twitter.com/Cameron_Gray/status/
1051566938139316225

Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2018 12:37 AM (Evws/)

421 I redpilled a black friend with this Kanye shit. She's not real political, but doesn't like Trump or Republicans and does like Kanye, so was disappointed West was supporting him.

I told her that all else aside, the media that worshipped Yeezy for fifteen years would turn on him like a rabid like a rabid dog immediately. She thought I was crazy.

She called me the next day, shocked at what they were saying, and asking how I knew it would it happen.

She sat and listened for ninety minutes as I laid out the sick, abusive codependent relationships between Dems and blacks, and the media's role as role as enforcers for the Dem pimps. How afraid the Dems are of a powerful black man telling blacks to think for themselves.

Afterward, she thanked me for the conversation, and said she would pass on what she'd heard to friends and family.

Persuasion, spreading the Dragon Energy!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 12:37 AM (5aX2M)

422 414 Ed Sullivan has AIDS ?

"Tonight, on OUR shew...."

Posted by: JT at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (QYAhh)


He got it from Topo Gigio...

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2018 12:37 AM (itfg0)

423 He didn't have his own dolly on his truck?
Posted by: nerdygirl at O




no. which is funny because he loaded his car, a camry, himself and said he was familiar with the building, so he had to know it was going to suck.

my guess is he was lured in by the big fat tip Mrs YankeeFifth insists on putting on the order.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2018 12:38 AM (MTjB1)

424 How did Sullivan get AIDS? For those if us who've been on the Internet awhile, we recall that another gay dude outed Sullivan advertising for anonymous raw sex. But it's America's obligation to pay his healthcare bills. I'd put him in an oven.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:29 AM

Oh, gross!

And I am going to have a room temperature shot of rum.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:38 AM (/+bwe)

425 PDT interview highlight (approx. 30 seconds):
https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/status/
1051626685722963968

Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2018 12:38 AM (Evws/)

426 Okay, okay. I see I'll have to sweeten the pot. If I hand you a glass a heated spiced rum, it will come with a cutless, torch, and treasure map.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:40 AM (H5knJ)

427 She sat and listened for ninety minutes as I laid out the sick, abusive codependent relationships between Dems and blacks, and the media's role as role as enforcers for the Dem pimps. How afraid the Dems are of a powerful black man telling blacks to think for themselves.

Afterward, she thanked me for the conversation, and said she would pass on what she'd heard to friends and family.

Persuasion, spreading the Dragon Energy!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 12:37 AM

That is great! I hope what you said sticks with her.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:40 AM (/+bwe)

428 NaughtyPine:
I have only rum and no ice. Does spiced rum taste good heated? I have to go to bed now and wonder if that would work as a nightcap.

Had my first hot buttered rum of the season just last night. Basically buttered hot water with rum. And nutmeg or something who cares.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rum and a dash of cranberry juice at October 15, 2018 12:42 AM (CafNC)

429 Okay, okay. I see I'll have to sweeten the pot. If I hand you a glass a heated spiced rum, it will come with a cutless, torch, and treasure map.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:40 AM

Is the treasure map to a big hairy brute of a man? Because I believe that was one of the evils of rum..,

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:42 AM (/+bwe)

430 Heated spiced rum sounds like one those tide pod challenge dares. DONT DO IT

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:43 AM (PkVlr)

431 Had my first hot buttered rum of the season just last night. Basically buttered hot water with rum. And nutmeg or something who cares.
Posted by: mindful webworker - rum and a dash of cranberry juice at October 15, 2018 12:42 AM

I have no butter in the house. Or cranberry juice. If I had cranberry juice, I would break out the vodka.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:44 AM (/+bwe)

432 Heated spiced rum sounds like one those tide pod challenge dares. DONT DO IT
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 15, 2018 12:43 AM

I have to wait to see if there is a man at the end of the treasure map...

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:45 AM (/+bwe)

433 Liberal feminists are insufferable. I would bet a large sum that not one is married to an alpha male.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:46 AM (2DOZq)

434 That is great! I hope what you said sticks with her.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:40 AM (/+bwe)

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It will.

I could hear the sadness and anger that happens when the lights come on.

And she knows I wouldn't lie to her, I've helped her family and always been nice to her.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 12:47 AM (5aX2M)

435 405 What is "devastation of democratic norms..." ?

These anti-Trump people haven't anything specific so they have to come up with this bullshit.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:23 AM (2DOZq)


What's particularly galling is this is their go-to excuse for an effort that really does constitute a devastation of democratic norms.

I'm not sure if HRC really believes what she's saying, but for the sake of argument let's pretend she does. How stupid would you have to be to think we, as a nation, could find a "return to civility" if the Democrats impeach the president and/or the latest SCOTUS justice without even being able to articulate a charge?

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:49 AM (h2Bdk)

436 Hot Chiffoned Rum.

Posted by: klaftern at October 15, 2018 12:50 AM (RuIsu)

437 Okay I realize there are exceptions . Jane Fonda and Ted Turner. Though eventually he had enough of her shit.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:51 AM (2DOZq)

438 A man? C'mon, you can't appreciate gold douboons?!?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:52 AM (H5knJ)

439 Liberal feminists are insufferable. I would bet a large sum that not one is married to an alpha male.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:46 AM

To be honest, I see the term Alpha Male and I think of jerks who sleep around on their wives and attempt to get into pissing contests with other men. I guess it is because my father and the men in the neighborhood used to mockingly talk of certain men vying to be Top Dog.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:52 AM (/+bwe)

440 me #415:
In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.
Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.


rickl #419:
With the sexes reversed, that sounds like a common plot for a pr0n movie.

In this liberated age, when we all have been enlightened that there really is no difference between zims and zhers, it's kinda funny how these two scenarios contrast, eh?

Posted by: mindful webworker's preferred pronoun is Your Arglebargleness Esquire at October 15, 2018 12:55 AM (CafNC)

441 People tip for amazon deliveries? I never even see the delivery people.

Posted by: NCKate at October 15, 2018 12:55 AM (q7b5n)

442 Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:52 AM (/+bwe)

Trump is an alpha male.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 12:55 AM (2DOZq)

443 A man? C'mon, you can't appreciate gold douboons?!?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2018 12:52 AM

I could tell you about my appreciation of men, but I am too sober.

Lukewarm rum it is!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:57 AM (/+bwe)

444 To be honest, I see the term Alpha Male and I think of jerks who sleep around on their wives and attempt to get into pissing contests with other men. I guess it is because my father and the men in the neighborhood used to mockingly talk of certain men vying to be Top Dog.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 12:52 AM (/+bwe)


Yeah. That alpha beta gamma sigma stuff is fine for biologists shorthand when you're talking about wolves, but people are too complex for it to be a useful classification system. Even wolves are probably too complex for the most part.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:58 AM (h2Bdk)

445 Does the top dog hear the dog whistle?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2018 12:59 AM (4mUNO)

446 Andrew Sullivan is full of it.
the sabotage of Obamacare -- that's what most of the country wanted before he shoved it down our throats
the devastation of democratic norms -- yes, he yells at you in public instead of sending the FBI after you in secretor the rattling of NATO - pay up, you deadbeats, and I'll give you a base.

Posted by: PJ at October 15, 2018 12:59 AM (qlTN9)

447 419 415
In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.

Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.
Posted by: mindful webworker - tales I could (but won't) tell... at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (CafNC)

With the sexes reversed, that sounds like a common plot for a pr0n movie.
Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)


Sadly, in the real world lesbians tend to be morbidly obese with personalities to match.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 01:00 AM (h2Bdk)

448 Thing......we will be in Venice on Friday for 3 days

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 11:13 PM (c1nDO)

"Streets flooded. Please advise."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:01 AM (iwUO9)

449 In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.



Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.

Posted by: mindful webworker - tales I could (but won't) tell... at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (CafNC)



With the sexes reversed, that sounds like a common plot for a pr0n movie.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)

Right? Dude walks in and finds his woman in bed with another chick and you would swear there was a diving board around somewhere. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 15, 2018 01:03 AM (9Om/r)

450 447 419 415
In the case of a relative of mine, her hubby was getting it on with some other guy.

Kinda put a crimp in their relationship.
Posted by: mindful webworker - tales I could (but won't) tell... at October 15, 2018 12:33 AM (CafNC)

With the sexes reversed, that sounds like a common plot for a pr0n movie.
Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)

Sadly, in the real world lesbians tend to be morbidly obese with personalities to match.
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 01:00 AM (h2Bdk)


But I was assured by pr0n movies that they're smoking hawt!

(I have actually met a couple of smoking hawt lesbians in my life. Sadly, no pr0n antics ensued.)

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2018 01:06 AM (sdi6R)

451 And it's not just hits to the ground, the lightning is arcing back and forth through the tops of the clouds constantly. Impressive show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 14, 2018 11:16 PM (V2Yro)

Good opportunity to look for sprites, elves, and jets. I am pretty sure I saw one once above an intense T-storm about 30 miles north of me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:06 AM (iwUO9)

452 Political Hat:
...Ed Sullivan [got] AIDS... from Topo Gigio...

Who caught it from Señor Wences

Topo
https://youtu.be/7PAj2hWD_Pg

Wences
https://youtu.be/yFuvHrXZcrs

Posted by: mindful webworker's black and white past at October 15, 2018 01:09 AM (CafNC)

453 A guy is obviously depressed, getting wasted at the bar. The bartender asks what's wrong.

The guy says "I caught my wife in bed with my best friend."

The bartender asks what he did, and the guy says "Well, I told her we're getting a divorce, and sent her to stay with her mother."

So the bartender asks "What did you do to him?"

The guy answers "I hit him with a rolled up newspaper and made him sleep in the yard."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 01:10 AM (5aX2M)

454 Night all. Be well.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 15, 2018 01:10 AM (I16G8)

455 Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:58 AM (h2Bdk)

I think it provides enough distinction to give a general view of the personality of the person you are describing.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 15, 2018 01:11 AM (2DOZq)

456 453 A guy is obviously depressed, getting wasted at the bar. The bartender asks what's wrong.

The guy says "I caught my wife in bed with my best friend."

The bartender asks what he did, and the guy says "Well, I told her we're getting a divorce, and sent her to stay with her mother."

So the bartender asks "What did you do to him?"

The guy answers "I hit him with a rolled up newspaper and made him sleep in the yard."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 01:10 AM (5aX2M)



Smacked him on the nose and told him "Bad Dog!"

Posted by: buzzion at October 15, 2018 01:12 AM (cAnNx)

457 Pro 1631 ad (carbon tax) claims 40,000 new jobs.
Why do they always leave out "government" between "new" and "jobs"?

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at October 15, 2018 01:16 AM (LOq4H)

458 Yeah. That alpha beta gamma sigma stuff is fine for biologists shorthand when you're talking about wolves, but people are too complex for it to be a useful classification system. Even wolves are probably too complex for the most part.
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 12:58 AM

A few years ago one of my younger relatives brought his buddy to dinner. Guy bought into some sort of manly behavioral game with alpha and beta rankings, plus some theories about how to treat women to get them to do what they wanted. I thought it was just as stupid as feminist advice about relationships.

I am probably naive, but it seems to me that the people who are really top notch tend to rely on other people with whom they build great relationships.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 01:17 AM (/+bwe)

459 A 20 gauge has a similar recoil to a .270

But I think the fps on target will be larger.
Posted by: jakee308

Hmm, I had a light .270 "Mountain Gun" - nice, flat shooting - kicked like a mule. Much harder than any 20g Ive had.

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2018 12:05 AM (UXFaG)

Nobody has mentioned the venerable 30-30 Winchester. And in Canada alone, the .303 British has probably accounted for more deer than it ever did jihadis, Commies, and Nazis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:19 AM (iwUO9)

460 That woman of the screed doesn't need a shrink.
She doesn't need a smack upside the head.
What she needs is an exorcist.
And I am not joking.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 15, 2018 01:21 AM (Rxduq)

461 ...A few years ago one of my younger relatives brought his buddy to dinner. Guy bought into some sort of manly behavioral game with alpha and beta rankings, plus some theories about how to treat women to get them to do what they wanted. I thought it was just as stupid as feminist advice about relationships.

I am probably naive, but it seems to me that the people who are really top notch tend to rely on other people with whom they build great relationships.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 01:17 AM (/+bwe)



Dunno 'bout all of that, but this I know.

If I get a proper grip around their windpipe and apply the pressure available behind decades of manual labor in my grip....

They pretty much bend to my will, and wilt like the hothouse flowers they really are.

I don't give one shit about "rankings". Except for the one thing.

They're not gonna piss on MY leg, and claim it was raining.

They can try.

Once.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2018 01:22 AM (QzJWU)

462 Missed the food thread!

I've nailed down my fav beef stew.

Best tip/hack from seriouseats: brown the entire chuck steak before you cut it into chunks. Rest for a few minutes, of course.

Chicken and beef stock for the beginning liquor, and some red vino with a ton of fried mushrooms at the beginning.

Simmer that base with disposable veg. Don't bother with the fine chopping of the 1st carrots and veg. Dip them out and move on to the 2nd hour with fresh, fine chopped veg.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2018 01:24 AM (c07y/)

463 President Donald Trump is backing off his claim that climate change is a hoax but says he doesn't know if it's man made and suggests that the climate will "change back again."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2018 12:17 AM (4mUNO)

Thing is, it is a hoax. An Aussie PhD candidate did an audit of the Hadcrut IV temperature data series as his dissertation (and was awarded his doctorate on it), and that dataset is simply riddled with significant errors. Like a town in Colombia that was recorded as being 80 degrees C, for two months running. That's a well-done steak.

Go look up wattsupwiththat for the low down on it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:25 AM (iwUO9)

464 ...Nobody has mentioned the venerable 30-30 Winchester. And in Canada alone, the .303 British has probably accounted for more deer than it ever did jihadis, Commies, and Nazis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:19 AM (iwUO9



.30-30 with Hornady Accu-Tips, is a legit 200 yd deerslayer. .303 Brit, another 100 yards for crappy guns, another 300 yards for the sterling of the breed.

We really can't delve into leverdom, here. Detours like .356 Win, abound.

Here's the demarcation. Rifles that are easily scoped, vs. the others.

Does Marlin make a .405 Win? Cause that would be a winner in my book!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


/hastalanitenitehorde

Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2018 01:27 AM (QzJWU)

465 Go look up wattsupwiththat for the low down on it.

Loved the ship temp reading which was taken 100 km inland....

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at October 15, 2018 01:27 AM (LOq4H)

466 So, in CO we have prop 112, which is to drastically increase setbacks in a fashion which would eliminate gas drilling in our state.

The energy folks hit back by putting Amendment 74 on the ballot, which is to force the government to pay property owners for any government measure that reduces their property value (such as stripping their mineral rights with 112).

I think 112 is doomed. But 74 may pass. If so, it will open up state and local governments to a shit-ton of lawsuits, frivolous and legitimate.

The vulnerable governments would be the state and Denver regional council of governments.

Governments I despise. And in the case of DRCOG, idiot taxpayers I hate would be on the hook. I would be too, but I can take one for the team.

If this comes to pass, I will begin community organizing... I would like to make sure that laws passed by Denver and Boulder end up resulting in disastrous class action lawsuits whenever possible. Preferably with a sleaze dripping attack dog attorney like Avenatti (but competent).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2018 01:30 AM (5aX2M)

467 Maybe a little thunder in Pflugerville tonite.

Posted by: klaftern at October 15, 2018 01:33 AM (RuIsu)

468 Howdy, just woke up after a nap. How are you fine Morons doing?

Got thru our HS meeting today where I had to show the movie "Living With Lincoln" and have everyone ask WTF happened to my arm.

Got the movie to work, it's a good HBO doc if you like history. And when I gave my Director's report waved my arm and said "this is what man's best friend did to me" (stupid young dog tripped me in the dark).

How are ya'll doing? I'm kinda sore after all this activity today.

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 01:37 AM (yJ1e6)

469 "Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 14, 2018 11:07 PM (87ijN)"

Saw your post asking for a history of Venice. May I suggest:
A HISTORY OF VENICE FROM ITS FOUNDING TO THE UNIFICATION OF ITALY by Alethea Wiel

Originally written in the 1890's, it was reprinted by Barnes Noble as a discount book. It has all the relative advantages and disadvantages of histories written in that era. And it should be fairly easy to find cheap.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at October 15, 2018 01:38 AM (fKY4n)

470 Got the movie to work, it's a good HBO doc if you like history. And when I gave my Director's report waved my arm and said "this is what man's best friend did to me" (stupid young dog tripped me in the dark).

How are ya'll doing? I'm kinda sore after all this activity today.

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 01:37 AM (yJ1e6)

Glad to hear you are on the mend, and that the head bonk didn't crash the processor.

I found some leftover TR6 parts today, and called the guy who bought the car, and he drove over here in it, and happily received the pieces. He is still delighted with the car, and I am delighted it went to a good home.

And I fixed a window regulator on my '51 Studebaker today. Leastwise, I can now crank the window up and down, with some effort. Will need a new glass, and new window channel to work really right. But a step is a step.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:42 AM (iwUO9)

471 If I get a proper grip around their windpipe and apply the pressure available behind decades of manual labor in my grip....

They pretty much bend to my will, and wilt like the hothouse flowers they really are.

I don't give one shit about "rankings". Except for the one thing.

They're not gonna piss on MY leg, and claim it was raining.

They can try.

Once.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2018 01:22 AM


Me, I am easygoing. I figure if a grown man wants to use his muscles on me because he dislikes something, he will always find something about me that displeases him. No point in pretending we can make it. And I would end a relationship long before I considered giving my man a clawhammer to the skull instead of a sandwich.

And on THAT cheery note, goodnight to all the Morons and Moronettes!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 15, 2018 01:43 AM (/+bwe)

472 To sleep, perchance to dream. Of Angela Merkel.

Posted by: klaftern at October 15, 2018 01:46 AM (RuIsu)

473 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:25

Agree it's a hoax. The gal running the UN commission dealing w/ it admitted it's about transferring wealth from wealthy nations to poorer ones. Socialist scam big time.

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 01:47 AM (yJ1e6)

474 The big hush-hush secret of global warming is variable solar radiation. The cycles are so long it's just a lot easier to blame us. By "us" I mean me.

"easier" can also be read as "more lucrative"

Posted by: klaftern at October 15, 2018 01:58 AM (RuIsu)

475 But a step is a step.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 01:42
Very cool. I don't understand why most leftists don't get that "conservatives" are by nature conservationists and recycle things better than they do. Idiots in my book.

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 01:59 AM (yJ1e6)

476 apropos gigio of nothing in particular

Baby sister called today and asked if I wanted her vintage Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I kit which has been sitting in a box since 199?. Since it was worth nothing on e-bay. !

She says the keyboard has no D key (but still works, heh). The expansion box has some kind of problem. She could get one of the external 5" drives to light up but not spin. No monitor.

I told her, sure, I'd take it. I have 2 - or more like 1.7 - Model I set-ups, my original 1978-80 kit, and somebody's I bought decades ago. But I'm not sure I have any working drives for mine either, which is kind of essential.

Told Sis that I always dreamed of getting the system up & running again, just for fun. If I ever have the space and the time. Or maybe her box of Model I will sit next to mine until some archeologist discovers them some day.

I think the big collection of 80 Magazine got moldy, though. But I have all the original doc.

Posted by: mindful webworker's black and white past at October 15, 2018 02:00 AM (CafNC)

477 told her, sure, I'd take it. I have 2 - or more like 1.7 - Model I set-ups, my original 1978-80 kit, and somebody's I bought decades ago. But I'm not sure I have any working drives for mine either, which is kind of essential.

Told Sis that I always dreamed of getting the system up & running again, just for fun. If I ever have the space and the time. Or maybe her box of Model I will sit next to mine until some archeologist discovers them some day.

I think the big collection of 80 Magazine got moldy, though. But I have all the original doc.

Posted by: mindful webworker's black and white past at October 15, 2018 02:00 AM (CafNC)

I have a TRS-80 "color computer" in its original box at home. Never tried to fire it up. I think it needs a color TV as a monitor? I salvaged it out of the dump years ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 02:04 AM (iwUO9)

478 Remember when Andrew Sullivan was conservative?

He pretty much admits that the Kavanaugh thing made him rethink his life choices... wrong side.

Andrew also thinks it is possible to be both a populist and Authoritarian, he needs to look up words before using them.

Trump is less Authoritarian than Obama, or Bush for that matter... he's the least Authoritarian president we've had, maybe ever. And gives many more interviews with the press, even though they treat him terribly... he proves they are idiots every time he does an interview.

I didn't always believe Trump did it all on purpose, but I think now that he actually does do it on purpose, stir them up I mean... he just kicks that hornet's nest and they show things they never meant the world to see.

Could be a stable genius... I think he actually could be.

Posted by: unknown at October 15, 2018 02:11 AM (4FqDg)

479 if its not a hoax and methane starts thawing out from the bottom of the ocean. guess who will be eliminated first so they can no longer contribute to global warming and then your families next.

Posted by: ramondo at October 15, 2018 02:12 AM (PbMBm)

480 From my Dad...
Subject: Fw: Old Goat Quiz
Great mental exercise!

Which of the following names are you familiar with?
1. Monica Lewinsky
2. Bill Clinton
3. Obama
4. Adolf Hitler
5. Jorge Bergoglio
6. Nelson Mandela
7. Vladimir Putin
8. Linda Lovelace
9. Saddam Hussein
10. Tiger Woods

You had trouble with #5 didn't you?
You know all the liars, criminals, adulterers, murderers, thieves, sluts and cheaters, but you don't know the Pope??
Lovely, just lovely....

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 02:13 AM (yJ1e6)

481 You had trouble with #5 didn't you?
You know all the liars, criminals, adulterers, murderers, thieves, sluts and cheaters, but you don't know the Pope??
Lovely, just lovely....

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 02:13 AM (yJ1e6)

Bergoglio is in good company there. The Commie Pope.

And yes, I knew that Bergoglio is Pope Francis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 02:23 AM (iwUO9)

482 Raining now, I'm off to bed. Be well all you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 02:27 AM (yJ1e6)

483 if its not a hoax and methane starts thawing out from the bottom of the ocean. guess who will be eliminated first so they can no longer contribute to global warming and then your families next.

Posted by: ramondo at October 15, 2018 02:12 AM (PbMBm)

Since the biggest constraint on methane clathrates decomposing is pressure, not temperature, you would have to greatly reduce sea levels to make them release methane. And Gerbil Worming fanatics are convinced that sea levels are going rise, not fall.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 02:27 AM (iwUO9)

484 459 Nobody has mentioned the venerable 30-30 Winchester.

Posted by: AOP

Three deer I have known hate hate hate the 30-30, as I dined on their flesh. Not one made it more than 20 feet after being shot.

But in its carbine form, not much use outside of 250 yards.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 02:28 AM (Z4rgH)

485 Night, Farmer. I am out, too. Getting real sleepy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 02:28 AM (iwUO9)

486 Three deer I have known hate hate hate the 30-30, as I dined on their flesh. Not one made it more than 20 feet after being shot.

But in its carbine form, not much use outside of 250 yards.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 02:28 AM (Z4rgH)

Original poster specifically asked about hunting in the woods.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2018 02:30 AM (iwUO9)

487 How are ya'll doing? I'm kinda sore after all this activity today.
Posted by: Farmer at October 15, 2018 01:37 AM (yJ1e6)


You should probably avoid Portland today unless you can wield a tire iron ambidextrously.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 02:32 AM (h2Bdk)

488 487 You should probably avoid Portland today unless you can wield a tire iron ambidextrously.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 02:32 AM (h2Bdk)


In NYC and Portland, the long anticipated pushback from the far-right has begun. Antifa is no longer getting a free pass.

I dunno where this will end up, but the game is changing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 02:42 AM (Z4rgH)

489 I don't know much about local politics in NYC, but in Portland? I don't see any evidence, though I'd very much like to. The mayor was fully in support of the breakdown of law and order - if he gets reelected that city is done.

Posted by: Ace's liver at October 15, 2018 02:45 AM (h2Bdk)

490 In NYC and Portland, the long anticipated pushback from the far-right has begun. Antifa is no longer getting a free pass.



I dunno where this will end up, but the game is changing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 02:42 AM (Z4rgH)
Link?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 15, 2018 02:52 AM (8iiMU)

491 You had trouble with #5 didn't you?
You know all the liars, criminals, adulterers, murderers, thieves, sluts and cheaters, but you don't know the Pope??
Lovely, just lovely....


I was thinking Jeff Gillooly

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at October 15, 2018 03:01 AM (+KUWZ)

492 @FastCompany 36m

SpaceX makes its first ground landing on the West Coast

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2018 03:03 AM (c07y/)

493 44 36 Headline from Liberty:
President Trump in '60 Minutes' Interview on Hs 'Regrets': 'I Regret that the Press Treats Me So Badly'

I love President Trump.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

Oh, thats amazing. Not quite as good as this one though, but its still in the running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazsNQhRvU4
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (GBteo)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at October 15, 2018 03:12 AM (hoavu)

494 Over at Breitbart:

Hillary! The Way Trump Debated Me, It Was Imbued with Sexism

Unbelievable. Move On.

Posted by: m at October 15, 2018 03:19 AM (hoavu)

495 490 DIG

Portland antifa -proud boys multiple links

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y89s8dru

NYC antifa - proud boys brawling

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb2fo6xy

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 03:20 AM (Z4rgH)

496 test

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2018 03:24 AM (mpXpK)

497 Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2018 03:20 AM (Z4rgH)

Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 15, 2018 03:31 AM (8iiMU)

498 294 Want to buy my first deer rifle.

.243 - .270 - .308

a short reason for your choice would be appreciated.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 14, 2018 11:36 PM

Have you considered 45-70 gov?
Seriously, though, I think the calculation should go like this:

1- Unless you are pinpoint accurate and your local deer are small, or you are very recoil sensitive, I'd screen out the .243
2- If you plan on shooting at long ranges, and aren't going to be precise on the exact distance (known distance, laser, etc), .270 will be more forgiving with bullet drop.
3- .308 will hit harder, so less tracking and more forgiving on slightly off hits. If you're in a northern state with really big deer, or an area with lots of ravines shit deer will run in to to make you drag them out, this becomes more appealing.

Until recently, Iowa only allowed shotguns and muzzleloaders, so I can only look on in envy. We just got straightwalled cartridges of .40 and above allowed, so now I'm considering something in the .450, .45-70 or .444 range. Or maybe just a really nice, long range muzzle loader instead on my cheap little CVA Wolf.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 15, 2018 04:05 AM (3MG/9)

499 206 Nothing like walking in and seeing hubby boning some other chick in your bed.

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 11:09 PM

According to my extensive video library, this scenario always ends in an epic threesome!

Posted by: Pornhub at October 15, 2018 04:07 AM (3MG/9)

500 Its no way to go through life as a angry, bitter old woman.
But please keep talking Hillary

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 04:07 AM (T4oHT)

501 Alberta Oil Peon #478:
I have a TRS-80 "color computer" in its original box at home. Never tried to fire it up. I think it needs a color TV as a monitor? I salvaged it out of the dump years ago.

After a fair start with the Model I, Radio Shack branched out into... incompatible copycats of other systems. They could've been the IBM-PC but they had no clue. Sadz.

Posted by: mindful webworker's ancient history - that was like dozens of messages ago, maaaaan! at October 15, 2018 04:36 AM (CafNC)

502 Coffee is on, maybe that smell will wake up a few

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 04:38 AM (T4oHT)

503 Or not

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 05:05 AM (T4oHT)

504 Bienvenue a Aix-en-Provence. Cloudy 60% chance of thunderstorms.

Posted by: The Ultimate Consumer at October 15, 2018 05:12 AM (tRBsw)

505 They need to fix the tricolor in front of City Hall

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2018 05:16 AM (tRBsw)

506 Got our 1st traffic light last week. Don`t know how long before we can pay to have it installed, it was a retired unit the state gave us. We are all a might worried if we can afford it.

Posted by: Concerned in Bullpiss Al. at October 15, 2018 05:23 AM (yhf6w)

507 Stick it up, don't bother with electric. Make both sides red with battery operated lights

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 05:26 AM (T4oHT)

508 Pat Condell was nice to here from.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 05:28 AM (T4oHT)

509 Gotta get out of here, everyone have a great day and piss off a Leftist if you can.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2018 05:29 AM (T4oHT)

510 morning horde....how is everyone this morning?

Posted by: TickledPink at October 15, 2018 05:40 AM (TL2pK)

511 What a great morning! Didn't get flooded out. Again. Now to get dried out. Again. Be safe out there!

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2018 05:53 AM (zLDYs)

512 I really don't want to go to work today. Can it please be yesterday already?

Posted by: TickledPink at October 15, 2018 05:59 AM (TL2pK)

513 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:10 AM (hyuyC)

514 TickledPink

Top o ta mornin to ya, lass.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:13 AM (hyuyC)

515 Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:10 AM (hyuyC)

Indeed!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2018 06:13 AM (wYseH)

516 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 06:13 AM (cqNba)

517 CBD!

Your food thread sparked the most incredible discussion on Le Creuset dutch overs, crock-pots and sundry with my kitchen fashionista wife. Thank you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:16 AM (hyuyC)

518 Morning.
Looks like we had a snow flurries overnight here in No Ill.
....Looks at calendar...October 15th???
Damn globull warming/climate change/polar bear killer...

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:19 AM (8ikIW)

519 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Good morning to you.

I hear our local kids talk about their plans to hit neighborhoods on Halloween in terms that would bring a smile to SecDef Mattis. Strategic thinkers all.

So you are not the Lone Ranger on Halloween.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:19 AM (hyuyC)

520 http://www.universitepopulairedupaysdaix.fr

Premiere Partie Karl Marx - un penseur de la totalite

Ripped from the pages of the local tourist guide

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2018 06:21 AM (xUS8U)

521 It's in the 20's in NE Kansas. Snow was last night, with little accumulation. The travel advisory has been canceled.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:21 AM (hyuyC)

522 Bruce

We are still heading to the bottom of the local solar cycle. I put in more insulation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:22 AM (hyuyC)

523 518 Morning.
Looks like we had a snow flurries overnight here in No Ill.
....Looks at calendar...October 15th???
Damn globull warming/climate change/polar bear killer...
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:19 AM (8ikIW)

And yet Al Gore says we'll all die tomorrow unless we all give up transportation, meat, and electricity so that he can have it all for himself...

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 06:23 AM (jlHSA)

524 We are still heading to the bottom of the local solar cycle. I put in more insulation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

So did I. Now my pants are too tight.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:24 AM (8ikIW)

525 Portland is Left vs Way-Left. Californians fleeing to a cheaper state and hitting a town with artificially imposed growth limits (unlike San Francisco which just has a limited amount of land). Local Leftists are getting priced out of land and feeling resentful. It is like a university full of safe fat entrenched old leftys vs an enrollment of angry young leftys. No dog in this fight for me.

Posted by: The kettle at October 15, 2018 06:25 AM (VWE5i)

526 It's funny reading the article on the Proud Boys vs. Antifa as the writer tries to tip toe around the left wing/right wing labels

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:26 AM (8ikIW)

527 Hikaru

F*** Al Gore in particular. He is a con-spewing grifter that should be declared an international criminal. RICO his ass in particular to recover public monies he snagged.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:26 AM (hyuyC)

528 "So you are not the Lone Ranger on Halloween."


Oh, I wouldn't, and don't mind the groups of ambulatory kids who decide to go from one neighborhood to another.

It's the parents who hate us due to politics and melanin who load the chirrens up and show them how to get more free stuff. And then go home and curse and swear about privilege.

When you're talking 300-600 kids, it's a not small amount of money, as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 06:27 AM (cqNba)

529 525 Portland is Left vs Way-Left. Californians fleeing to a cheaper state and hitting a town with artificially imposed growth limits (unlike San Francisco which just has a limited amount of land). Local Leftists are getting priced out of land and feeling resentful. It is like a university full of safe fat entrenched old leftys vs an enrollment of angry young leftys. No dog in this fight for me.
Posted by: The kettle at October 15, 2018 06:25 AM (VWE5i)

You'd think that when Moneyed Leftists price people out of the economy, those pushed out would notice who the ones doing it are, but...

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 06:28 AM (jlHSA)

530 Bruce

The layered look is in for gainzzz, no? Not a heated kielbasa in the pants. Oh, all natural. Sorry.

Stop thinking about her.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:30 AM (hyuyC)

531 now I wanna vote for this Ferrara guy
what's he running for?

Guten Morgen, Horden!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 06:30 AM (dMvl+)

532 Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:26 AM (hyuyC)

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen you post angry. I guess you're not an Al Bore fan at all.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 06:31 AM (A+DfL)

533 Good to see SF is or wants to raise taxes on the rich, what a novel idea.....All to help the poor....

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 06:31 AM (uyBIH)

534 Village Idiot's Apprentice

The last 50 years have given certain populations a great deal of moral flexibility. And it's still popular on campus and coperations, as Diversity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:32 AM (hyuyC)

535 I bought a Mega Millions ticket for Saturday. I got 10 bucks worth, and didn't have a single number.

Now that's some luck

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:34 AM (8ikIW)

536 clutch

The warmists are criminals before Gaia. No science or Age of Reason about them at all. Just a con. Been fighting them for a long time.

Rising CO2 levels as alarming, in particular, is pathetic. I wonder if there is a feedback mechanism that exists to remove extra CO2? Those gummers have never heard of chlorophyll or plants.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:36 AM (hyuyC)

537 Morning all. Cold, wet & rainy. 42, feel like 36.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 06:37 AM (8sd9V)

538 I bought a Mega Millions ticket for Saturday. I got 10 bucks worth, and didn't have a single number.



Now that's some luck

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:34 AM (8ikIW)


I have played the NY lottery for over 20 years, by subscription. Send them a 100 dollars a year and they send you a receipt. How much have a won in those 20 plus years, don't ask. (next to nothing) Why do I keep doing it.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 06:38 AM (uyBIH)

539 Why do I keep doing it.
Posted by: Colin

"If you don't play, you can't win"

"It's for the schools"

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

540 clutch

Normally, I'm a happy camper with a low threshold of pleasure.

But the barbarians of the Left do concern me. And they really are the classic definition of barbarians. If we lose civilization, a whole lot of people will die. Including my wife. I have no desire to date in the current environment, let alone face-mask colander world.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:40 AM (hyuyC)

541 Rising CO2 levels as alarming, in particular, is pathetic. I wonder if there is a feedback mechanism that exists to remove extra CO2? Those gummers have never heard of chlorophyll or plants.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

I think they came up with the CO2 nonsense because the average schmuck has no way of monitoring that.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:41 AM (8ikIW)

542 Those lottery games are really math tests. Do you know probability? Hope and math are not always friends.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:42 AM (hyuyC)

543

Finished my kitchen install of Bluetooth 'stuff'. One transmitter on headphone jack of television. One receiver on sound bar in kitchen, one receiver on living room stereo.

Listened to Clapton, Bruce, and Winwood in concert at the Royal Alpert Hall last night. At 120 decibels. The way some music must be played.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 06:42 AM (URwyc)

544 Just got in last night from a long weekend with my long distance beau.

Part of my knows getting back to the grind is the best thing to keep my mind off it. The other part just wants to lay in bed for a few days eating hohos.

No tears on the drive home, no tears when I got home, no tears in the shower earlier, which was when I was sure they would come out...they are right there on the brink. It's just a matter of when the dam breaks.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 15, 2018 06:44 AM (TL2pK)

545 Bruce

Oh, it is going up. But plants are growing more as well.

We are two large volcanic eruptions from needed every bit of Greenhouse Gas effects to keep us alive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:44 AM (hyuyC)

546 lottery tickets are a form of entertainment
I buy the pleasure of a day's worth of daydreaming

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 06:45 AM (dMvl+)

547 The Dem that's running against the R incumbent for congress here has had a lot of propaganda showing up in the mail box. She is, of course, for the "right" to affordable health care. No where on the very glossy nice mailing does it say how that will be paid for. I guessed that there wasn't enough room on it.
I went to her web page. Nothing there either. Maybe she ran out of words on her computer?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:45 AM (8ikIW)

548 LoL NaCly, yeah you would kind of be blind dating in a colander world, right? Kind of like the old paper bag over the head thing.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 06:45 AM (A+DfL)

549 50 years of marriage and now she wants him to change?

Oh yea. Right after you blow me.

Posted by: BluesFish at October 15, 2018 06:45 AM (WQZ1O)

550 TickledPink, are you sad to be away, or did you guys fight?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 06:46 AM (dMvl+)

551 Work preps commence.

Have a blessed day everyone.

May every traffic light turn green as you approach. And if Antifa gets in front of you, may your bumper not need repair.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:46 AM (hyuyC)

552 Voter mom, that's how I look at lottery tickets, too, as entertainment. Funny how I never seem to know anyone that has won a big lottery though. Almost seems like a scam.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 06:48 AM (A+DfL)

553 TickledPink, don't eat the hohos.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 06:50 AM (A+DfL)

554 547
She is, of course, for the "right" to affordable health care.

So every OT PT Doc Nurse and maybe Dentist are owned by Big Government! They are slaves to the system and must service the non healthcare providing citizens!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 06:50 AM (JFO2v)

555 Portland is Left vs Way-Left. Californians fleeing to a cheaper state
and hitting a town with artificially imposed growth limits (unlike San
Francisco which just has a limited amount of land).

Posted by: The kettle

They could move to a socialist paradise like, say, Venezuela. Lots of cheap house up for sale there. And free healthcare! Whats not to like?.

Posted by: Ripley at October 15, 2018 06:50 AM (MxEKc)

556 So every OT PT Doc Nurse and maybe Dentist are owned by Big Government! They are slaves to the system and must service the non healthcare providing citizens!
Posted by: rhennigantx

I was thinking she was going to cut the pay of everyone in the health care industry by 20 percent. That would help.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:52 AM (8ikIW)

557 Almost seems like a scam.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 06:48 AM (A+DfL)


Scratch offs are the same, and I have played them in many states. Casinos seem to give better odds, or at least the carpets are colorful, along with the flashing dollar signs everywhere.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 06:52 AM (uyBIH)

558 @550

A little bit of everything actually. It's mostly hard leaving him/sad to be away feelings, for a large majority of it.

I wouldn't say we fought, but we did have some snippy moments, usually brought on by me. I worry that one of these days, the envelope will get pushed too far.

I'm worried he is going to dump me. I have no reasoning for it, other than plain insecurity and neuroticism. The drive is a long drive...long enough for me to sit and parse words, re-live conversations, and get inside my own head.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 15, 2018 06:55 AM (TL2pK)

559 How big is Texas?

Right now Amarillo, Texas as a wind chill factor of 17 degrees. Corpus Christi, Texas has a feel like of 93 degrees.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2018 06:56 AM (8sd9V)

560 I was thinking she was going to cut the pay of everyone in the health care industry by 20 percent. That would help.
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:52 AM (8ikIW)

or give every non HC provider a 20% raise!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 06:57 AM (JFO2v)

561 Watched some of the ball game last night.
Man, there was some good commentating going on.
Did you know, that if the team on the field is ahead in the score and it's late in the game, that it's a good idea not to let the other team score a run?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:57 AM (8ikIW)

562 Do they still have the pull tab tickets that sold in the vending machines?
There was a guaranteed number of winners per box of tickets, and the big winners paid out more than the box was worth, so the store owners would open the new boxes and pull tabs until they found the big winner and sell the remaining tickets.

Posted by: The kettle at October 15, 2018 06:58 AM (VWE5i)

563 or give every non HC provider a 20% raise!
Posted by: rhennigantx

SPLITTER!!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:58 AM (8ikIW)

564 Good morning!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 15, 2018 06:58 AM (0GuIv)

565 I was in a casino a couple years ago and the power went off. No flashing lights, and it was dark! They announced to stay at your machine, the power will come on sometime.....It did after about 30 minutes, and the machines did come on slowly and back to where they were.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 06:59 AM (uyBIH)

566
Good morning, Hordians. Between ads for Beto and Lizzy Fletcher, even local news is unwatchable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 15, 2018 06:59 AM (LsBY9)

567 Good morning, Hordians. Between ads for Beto and Lizzy Fletcher, even local news is unwatchable.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Heh. Whenever I see Beto, I think of the Minions doing their imitation of Europe police sirens.

BETO,BETO, BETO,......

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (8ikIW)

568 542 Those lottery games are really math tests. Do you know probability? Hope and math are not always friends.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2018 06:42 AM (hyuyC)

------

My chances of winning the lottery are infinitely greater buying a ticket versus not buying a ticket.

Posted by: MAGA at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (/8RAd)

569 I was thinking she was going to cut the pay of everyone in the health care industry by 20 percent. That would help.
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 06:52 AM (8ikIW)

Funny 1 thing they NEVER EVER talk about is free market. OTs and PTs take national test but have to have a state license. Why? Market Control. More Freedom Please!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (JFO2v)

570 Ho-lee-ker-CFUK! Just let the pups out and it is pinche frio... 19. And all the leaves on the Boxelders out front have fallen off overnight. Every. last. one.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (0GuIv)

571 Watching that McCasskill ad on the sidebar - if rural Missouri doesn't turn out, they get what they deserve. That woman is Hillary-esque.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 15, 2018 07:03 AM (xceTB)

572 BETO,BETO, BETO,......
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (8ikIW)

you cannot spell beatoff without beto

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:03 AM (JFO2v)

573 I don't watch TV, only movies on Amazon, etc. So I see nothing but yard signs. In NYS no Cuomo signs, but NYC will elect him anyway, so upstate Cuomo signs are a waste.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2018 07:04 AM (uyBIH)

574 Crotchety old jarhead, I hope you're nowhere near Michigan.

Posted by: clutch at October 15, 2018 07:04 AM (A+DfL)

575 570 Ho-lee-ker-CFUK! Just let the pups out and it is pinche frio... 19. And all the leaves on the Boxelders out front have fallen off overnight. Every. last. one.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 15, 2018 07:02 AM (0GuIv)

78 going to 61

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:05 AM (JFO2v)

576 Just put a brisket on the smoker and it is friggin 39 degrees outside here in NE Texas.


It feels like January!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2018 07:06 AM (JUOKG)

577 TickledPink, it doesn't seem healthy to me how often you feel bad after spending time with the guy.

Life's too short to be picking up rocks just to pound on ypur own head, as they say.

Will be praying for ya.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:06 AM (dMvl+)

578 Waiting to see what J.J. does with Trumps nominations to the 9th Circus yesterday.


Could be epic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 07:06 AM (cqNba)

579
The commercials here in Pennsylvania are ridiculous. We get not only the PA ones but the NJ ones, too. Tired of hearing the Menendez shit. I hope to hell that crook gets shown the door.

But I think I have better chance buying a Mega Million ticket and hitting four numbers.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 07:08 AM (URwyc)

580 I hope PDTS packs the 9th and they cease to become a tool of the left. Better yet, I'd like to see the circuit courts go the way of the dinosaurs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 15, 2018 07:09 AM (0GuIv)

581 Re : Khashoggi

How much does it matter, if at all, his connections to Bin Laden?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 07:11 AM (LogDI)

582
Fake DNA Test Conducted By Fake Scholar Concludes Elizabeth Warren Is A Fake Indian

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 07:13 AM (Si2Fo)

583 Did I see trump is endorsing 15% ethanol? What a bunch of anti science rent seekers.

Burning corn in car is wasteful and encourages farmers to till up land, overuse soil, and waste water. Total BS unscientific socialism!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:13 AM (JFO2v)

584
More News:

Chuck Schemer Has Become Ralph Nader of the Dangers of Limousines

Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 15, 2018 07:19 AM (Si2Fo)

585 The pantifi takeover of Portland show how Progressivism allows the more violent members of the left to become the enforcement arm for the non-violent members. They are the same people that ask for Barabus and claim they were not part of the crucifiction.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:20 AM (JFO2v)

586 The EMT...it's getting close.

I can feel it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 07:20 AM (cqNba)

587 For every inch longer a blank is, the more dangerous they are.

what other words work in that sentence?

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:21 AM (JFO2v)

588 "Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are.""

Same for gun barrels, Chuckie.


Therefore, we should encourage more short barreled modern sporting rifles.

In the interest of safety.
And shit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 07:22 AM (cqNba)

589 Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are."
Posted by: Soothsayer

I thought it was "another angel gets it's wings"

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:22 AM (8ikIW)

590 @577

Yeah, the post visit part of it is the hardest part. I sort of hold my breath until we get back in the rhythm of things, and get back to our normal conversations.

We really did have a nice time. And, when I am with him, I am happy and comfortable and genuinely feel at home. It's hard to leave.

Like I said, I just get in my head and it ruins me.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 15, 2018 07:23 AM (TL2pK)

591 Schumer has Inch Envy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:23 AM (oVJmc)

592 what other words work in that sentence?
Posted by: rhennigantx

Hotdogs. You don't need a hotdog that long. Make all foot longs 7 inches.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:23 AM (8ikIW)

593 now this is news!

Rachel McKinnon, a professor at the College of Charleston, won the womens sprint 35-39 age bracket at the 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling World Championships in Los Angeles.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:25 AM (JFO2v)

594 Chuck Schemer Has Become Ralph Nader of the Dangers of Limousines

Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are."


Fuck Choomer's schtick is giving a version of the same speech: "It's too bad someone had to die before Congress acted!"

He's among the most despicable human beings walking the earth today.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at October 15, 2018 07:25 AM (+KUWZ)

595 Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are."

Then high speed rails are really unsafe...at any speed

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:28 AM (8ikIW)

596
Rachel McKinnon, a professor at the College of Charleston, won the
womens sprint 35-39 age bracket at the 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling
World Championships in Los Angeles.


That's a MAN, Baby!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:30 AM (oVJmc)

597 I yelled at my wife last night. Not just a holler but a full throated demand for a sandwich.

I didn't get it.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2018 07:31 AM (UdKB7)

598 I yelled at my wife last night. Not just a holler but a full throated demand for a sandwich.

I didn't get it.
Posted by: freaked

If you did, you'd be afraid to eat it, wouldn't you?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:32 AM (8ikIW)

599 Dr. Rachel McKinnon@rachelvmckinnon

I'm an internationally recognized expert on the science and ethics of transgender inclusion in sport.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:32 AM (oVJmc)

600
Schemer: "For every inch longer a limousine is, the more dangerous they are."

I'm wondering why he didn't come up with some bogus statistic to drive a wedge between men and women. That seems to be their long-term strategy.

Something like, '98% of women killed in limousine accidents are because of male drivers. That's no accident.'

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 07:33 AM (URwyc)

601 Filthy American Commerce note - there seem to be Five Guys in every major French urb, just walked pasta Steak n Shake in the port of Marseilles.

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2018 07:34 AM (qWbtZ)

602 First Man failed to recoup even half of its $59 million budget during its opening weekend and has only grossed $16.5 million domestically and $8.6 million in foreign markets, Boxofficemojo.com reported.

Finally Americans have the balls to say fuck you hollywood!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:34 AM (JFO2v)

603 'If you did, you'd be afraid to eat it, wouldn't you?'

No, because she is not a man raping hater.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2018 07:35 AM (UdKB7)

604 I would not eat at Le Five Guys.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2018 07:35 AM (rnAwa)

605 when I left the port of Marseilles.
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2018 07:34 AM (qWbtZ)

I hadnt done what I planned to do
spent all the money I saved
and still did not get over you

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:38 AM (JFO2v)

606 First Man failed to recoup even half of its $59 million budget during its opening weekend'


I knew we should have cast Amy Schumer in the lead role.

Posted by: Holyweird at October 15, 2018 07:38 AM (UdKB7)

607 I knew we should have cast Amy Schumer in the lead role.
Posted by: Holyweird

And Melissa McCarthy in the Brian Dennehy role of the moon lander.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:40 AM (8ikIW)

608 I knew we should have cast Amy Schumer in the lead role.

As the moon?

I could see that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:41 AM (oVJmc)

609 I knew we should have cast Amy Schumer in the lead role.
Posted by: Holyweird at October 15, 2018 07:38 AM (UdKB7)

and made it a rom com could have had some great spit or swallow and period jokes

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:42 AM (JFO2v)

610 I knew we should have cast Amy Schumer in the lead role.
Posted by: Holyweird

Do not want to see Amy Schumer's full moon

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:42 AM (8ikIW)

611 Last!

Where is JJ?

Posted by: fluffy at October 15, 2018 07:42 AM (HUpQk)

612 JJ MIA

OMG

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:43 AM (oVJmc)

613 and made it a rom com could have had some great spit or swallow and period jokes
Posted by: rhennigantx

Period jokes? Like jokes from the 1960's?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:43 AM (8ikIW)

614 I think Chrome is getting flakey. I guess I need to run CC.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:44 AM (JFO2v)

615 'Where is JJ?'

In NY. Don't judge

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2018 07:44 AM (UdKB7)

616 Period jokes? Like jokes from the 1960's?
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:43 AM (8ikIW)

oh yeah like laugh in in space

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 15, 2018 07:45 AM (JFO2v)

617 Sock it to me!

Posted by: Your sweet bippy at October 15, 2018 07:47 AM (UdKB7)

618 I used to know a periodic table joke. Or maybe it was a song.

Posted by: Kevin C at October 15, 2018 07:50 AM (ORy9o)

619

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 15, 2018 07:51 AM (7AQC5)

620 Kind of a slow news day. Here's a tidbit:

'Two male penguins who built a nest together from ice pebbles at Sydney's Sea Life Aquarium are now fostering an egg given them by aquarium staff who suspected they were more than friends.'

Posted by: Your sweet bippy at October 15, 2018 07:52 AM (UdKB7)

621 'aquarium staff who suspected they were more than friends.'

It was the leather thongs that gave them away.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2018 07:54 AM (UdKB7)

622 Two male penguins who built a nest together from ice pebbles...


I wonder what they would do with Fruity Pebbles?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:54 AM (8ikIW)

623 "'Two male penguins who built a nest together from ice pebbles at Sydney's Sea Life Aquarium are now fostering an egg given them by aquarium staff who suspected they were more than friends.'

Easiest way to tell.

Does the nest look fabulous?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2018 07:54 AM (cqNba)

624 JJ is finally here.

Posted by: JAS at October 15, 2018 07:57 AM (3HNOQ)

625 JJ is NOOOOOOD

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2018 07:57 AM (8ikIW)

626 'Two male penguins who built a nest together from ice pebbles at
Sydney's Sea Life Aquarium are now fostering an egg given them by
aquarium staff who suspected they were more than friends.'


Maybe they're really just stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2018 07:57 AM (oVJmc)

627 Good morning Horde. I just heard someone on TV, presumably a Democrat, who said "We need to overthrow the government under Donald Trump." Cheers ensued so I'm thinking it was a campaign event?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (lwiT4)

628 But I think I have better chance buying a Mega Million ticket and hitting four numbers.
Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 15, 2018 07:08 AM (URwyc)

the odds of 4 numbers...

what a sneaky way to try and get me to do math!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (dMvl+)

629 When big horn sheep finish a head-butting duel, the winner gets to mount the loser.

Posted by: Kevin C at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (ORy9o)

630 627 Good morning Horde. I just heard someone on TV, presumably a Democrat, who said "We need to overthrow the government under Donald Trump." Cheers ensued so I'm thinking it was a campaign event?
Posted by: grammie winger at October 15, 2018 07:58 AM (lwiT4)

It was Alec Baldwin.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 15, 2018 08:00 AM (UnA8+)

631 > 1. Monica Lewinsky
2. Bill Clinton
3. Obama
4. Adolf Hitler
5. Jorge Bergoglio
6. Nelson Mandela
7. Vladimir Putin
8. Linda Lovelace
9. Saddam Hussein
10. Tiger Woods

> You had trouble with #5 didn't you?

To be fair, you'd have to replace Bill Clinton with William Jefferson Blythe, Linda Lovelace with Linda Susan Boreman and Tiger Woods with Eldrick Woods.

Posted by: Rosie and Lena at October 15, 2018 08:15 AM (vOkuK)

Gun Thread: Commie Bastards! [Weasel]

Last week we spent some time discussing the AR-15, and it's a topic and a subject I suspect we'll see again over time as I begin to run out of other ideas. This week, however, I think it only fair to give the commies a nod and take a quick look at their masterpiece of reliability, functionality, and the favorite of rogue guerilla movements everywhere.

Avtomat Kalashnikova
Mikhail Timofeyevich Kalashnikov is to the Rooskies what John Garand or Eugene Stoner is to us non-Commies. Born in 1919 as the seventeenth of nineteen children (with eight surviving to adulthood), he was conscripted into the Red Army in 1938, eventually rising to the rank of Lieutenant General. To say he was a prolific designer is an understatement, and his life - from humble beginnings as a peasant to Hero of the Fatherland - was remarkable. Probably his most enduring achievement was the design of the Avtomát Kaláshnikova, or Automatic Rifle, the AK-47.

8.1 Stoner_and_Kalashnikov.jpg
Stoner and Kalashnikov in 1990 with their respective designs

Designed in 1945 by Kalashnikov and introduced to the Soviet Army in 1948, the AK-47 is a gas-operated "assault" rifle, chambered in 7.62x39mm, firing a 120gr bullet at muzzle velocity of around 2350 fps. It has been estimated that as many as 70 million of these weapons have been produced by more than 30 countries worldwide, and have seen use by the militaries of countless nations as well as nut-job radicals, insurgencies and revolutionaries the world over. By any measure, this has been a wildly successful product and it's popularity as an inexpensive, easy to produce and highly reliable combat weapon cannot be overemphasized. The accuracy and quality of the AK-47 is often debated, but in the hands of a competent shooter they're good enough to ruin your day to a distance of several hundred yards and often beyond.


Welcome to the PLA, the Fu Jian Province and State Factory 386

8.2 PolyTech scaled 2.jpgPoly Technologies (PolyTech) Legend AK-47/S

Although the AK-47 is produced at factories around mainland China (and the world) with varying standards of quality, some of the most sought after examples were made by Poly Technologies at State Factory 386 in Fu Jian Province, PRC. These rifles were exported to the United States for two years only; 1988 and concluding with the implementation of the import ban in 1989. Established in 1984, Poly Tech is essentially the export division for the People's Liberation Army, or PLA, and the Legend Series represents their deluxe model with a milled (rather than stamped) receiver and a number of other upgraded features. They are actually very nicely made, very collectible and command premium prices. They are also a lot of fun to shoot and parts are abundant and relatively inexpensive should something break.

So are there any strong opinions, for or against, the AK-47? Does the origin of this particular firearm influence your answer?

Link-O-Rama
Guns & Ammo Article
Home Sweet Home - State Factory 389


***This Old Gun***

This week's Old Gun comes from our pal Blake. It's a Swiss made K31 purchased from the now defunct SAMCO Global. Blake tells us three things make this rifle interesting: the straight-pull bolt, the legendary accuracy, and the very consistent 7.5x55 Swiss military ammunition. It also sounds like Blake has shot the rifle competitively and has scored well with it. However, like many of us, he's convinced the rifle shoots better than he can.

8.3 Blake k31-1 scaled.jpgSwiss K31 courtesy Blake


Blake mentioned one other thing I'd never heard of. Apparently, a lot of these rifles have a tag under the butt plate with the name of the last person the rifle was issued to. Looks like Karl Bannier had this one... how very cool is this?!!

8.4 blake k31-6 scaled.jpg


***Housekeeping Alert!!***

Please note we have a new and improved gmail account MoronGunThread for sending in pics. Hopefully this will work going forward!! Thanks for your patience and please let me know if you have any more trouble (with the email, not your personal weirdness). Again, that's morongunthread at gmail dot com.

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If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are welcome! Email: MoronGunThread at gmail

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Here we go!

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 14, 2018 07:09 PM (w7U7L)

2 Yowza!!!

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at October 14, 2018 07:12 PM (9TR2V)

3 Gum twed! Firmst!

Posted by: f'd at October 14, 2018 07:12 PM (UdKB7)

4 Aw shucks

Posted by: f'd at October 14, 2018 07:12 PM (UdKB7)

5 Now I've read the content.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 14, 2018 07:12 PM (w7U7L)

6 i was at the range a couple weeks ago....first time in a long while.....probably go again during the week....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 14, 2018 07:12 PM (0O7c5)

7 Wow!

Very cool, sir, and thank you very much for featuring one of my firearms!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 07:13 PM (WEBkv)

8 All for that reason if ever bought a carbine it wouldn't be a AK version

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 07:15 PM (T4oHT)

9 Crap. Forgot to run this through the format checker. So solly for the goofy punctuation characters.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

10 Every Jihadi may have one but that don't make them functional.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:16 PM (tEVlJ)

11 Very cool, sir, and thank you very much for featuring one of my firearms!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 07:13 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks for sending it in!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:16 PM (MVjcR)

12 By the way, worked out the 1911 and Garand yesterday.

We won't mention my failures with the .243.

Anyway, the range I was at, there's a steel plate hanging at 175 yards, 10" x 14".

Made a wonderful sound when being whacked by a 30 cal bullet.

Paper targets are all well and good, but give me a good steel target any day!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 07:18 PM (WEBkv)

13 I have shot a K31, and they are fine rifles, as are their ancestor, the schmidt rubin. Workmanship on both are excellent. When they brought in large batches of M11's in in the 60's and 70's, ammo was a problem,as the Swiss wouldn't cut loose with something still in use. Norma stepped up and started to offer it. Also, handloaders could use .284 Winchester ammo , fireforming and loading with .311 bullets. Now the guys with Winchester 88's and 100's in .284 use the Swiss brass(Norma, Partizan) to keep running.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:18 PM (xzqr4)

14 I love my Walther P 38 pistol. I saw them listed as one of the guns most likely to hold its value the other day. I try to go to the range on weekdays, since I am retired and the range is busy on weekends. The outdoor range here in Tucson, however, is only open on weekends. That's for the AR 15 and the Winchester 30-30.

Posted by: Mike K at October 14, 2018 07:18 PM (s170V)

15 No one gets graded for punctuation around here

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 07:18 PM (T4oHT)

16 Another top 20!

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 14, 2018 07:19 PM (DefRK)

17 I Google Street-Viewed Dorenbachstrasse 23 in Binningen ... you can't actually get there with Street View, but you can get to #21. Amusingly, there's a Spider-Man inflatable perched on the side of the house.

Posted by: what a world at October 14, 2018 07:19 PM (ZWxnW)

18 One of the reason the AK is reliable as a gas operated system is because it's a gas piston operation.

What ever happened to the 'fad' of making gas piston ARs?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:19 PM (2DOZq)

19 "Paper targets are all well and good, but give me a good steel target any day!"

I like the paper targets with the layer of yellow chalk beneath the black. A hit makes a nice yellow circle easy to see 100 yards away.

Posted by: Mike K at October 14, 2018 07:20 PM (s170V)

20 It wouldn't have changed the Cold War, but we would have been way better off if Stoner and Kalashnikov had been swapped and we got the AK. But made in American factories.

A lot of good men died in Vietnam with jammed M-16s. It was a hated gun and many wanted the m-14 put back in service.

Posted by: Blago at October 14, 2018 07:20 PM (UfkIY)

21 Every Jihadi may have one but that don't make them functional.
Posted by: Ben Had


The AK may be rugged AF, but even they require some maintenance. Which, we've established, Achmed just don't do.

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at October 14, 2018 07:20 PM (lLeln)

22 Anyone want to talk about the AK-74?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (mUa7G)

23 Paper targets are all well and good, but give me a good steel target any day!
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 07:18 PM (WEBkv)

Just watched the steel target world championship. Looks like a blast. It's had the same set up since the competition was created. 13 different weapon classes.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

24 Sup 'rons! Let's pretend I finally got my rifle layaway jar (hypothetically) as full as i want it: i set aside $300 for ammo, $200 for optics, and an even $1000 for the rifle itself. Are there any other expenses i should (hypothetically) factor in?

On that budget, what would you buy?

Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (sd1SN)

25 Steel targets are great when the knees say don't walk 100 yards to change a piece of paper.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (xzqr4)

26 18 DI is for all intents and purposes completely reliable

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (9TR2V)

27 Gunga la gunga !

Posted by: JT at October 14, 2018 07:22 PM (bFW/U)

28 20 Problem solved when they changed the ammo back to original spec

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (9TR2V)

29 lot of good men died in Vietnam with jammed M-16s. It was a hated gun and many wanted the m-14 put back in service.
Posted by: Blago at October 14, 2018 07:20 PM (UfkIY)

That was short term. They corrected most of the problems which were chroming and cleaner ammo. And doing away with the myth that it was self cleaning.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (2DOZq)

30 Anyone want to talk about the AK-74?


Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (mUa7G)


Or the AK-12 and AK-15?

Posted by: Bert G at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (OMsf+)

31
On that budget, what would you buy?
Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (sd1SN)
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I guess it sort of depends on the intended use. Hunting? Plinking? Brandishing?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

32 28 and started cleaning the rifles

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (9TR2V)

33 Oh, another gun buying blunder by yours truly, Samco came into a bunch of K31's that had never been issued. Basically brand new with only storage marks on them. But I just couldn't bring myself to spend twice what I paid for the one I have.

Still kick myself for not doing it.

Ah well, another one that got away.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (WEBkv)

34 You know. Hypothetically.

Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:24 PM (sd1SN)

35 Yes, I've been to the range. Went yesterday and shot 9mm and 40. Good thing I didn't plan on shooting rifles, the rifle range at the club I shoot at was mostly under water, from about the 400 yard line out to the target area. Not unusual in the spring, but I don't ever remember it flooding in October. Probably that global wormening the kids are all talking about.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 07:24 PM (bjCNA)

36 I think the AK is like many Soviet weapons, simple, powerful, reliable but lacking refinement. A peasant's weapon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 07:25 PM (+y/Ru)

37 I went paintballing for the first time yesterday. My back and legs are sore from running, squatting and from changing sides from being hit and having to go to the other side.

Apparently I am not good at ducking, and I got a lot of hits to the head and hands.

*sigh*

One good round bruise on my shoulder, a classic "million dollar wound".

Apparently I am fat, out of shape and no longer 28

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (mUa7G)

38 Nice guns. meet the future inlaws. Joey asked my permission to marry my daughter and he even picked the check up. I only got kicked under the table 3 times to keep my mouth shut. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (Fh8wK)

39 Went to the range with another moron on Saturday. I love you guys!!!!!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (PkVlr)

40 I guess it sort of depends on the intended use. Hunting? Plinking? Brandishing?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

Thanks Weasel, duh. I have a 22 plinker, this is a "you live in antifa terroritory and only own a 22???" rifle.

Or would be, if this werent merely a thought exercise.

Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (sd1SN)

41 Finally got my Sig P365 that was on back order since May. Going to shoot it Tuesday. Very excited as it is about as big as my Glock 43 but it holds 12+1 9mm rounds.


I still can't figure out how they did it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (JUOKG)

42 Sad to say I still haven't shot my Ruger PC that I bought a few months ago.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:27 PM (2DOZq)

43 One more thing about the Swiss M11. I've never got into the edged weapons stuff, but the bayonet that usually was offered for sale with them was of fine quality, sawtooth back for pioneer use. Anybody know what the K31 bayonet is like?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:27 PM (xzqr4)

44 Thanks Weasel, duh. I have a 22 plinker, this is a "you live in antifa terroritory and only own a 22???" rifle.

Or would be, if this werent merely a thought exercise.
Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (sd1SN)
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I'm thinking an AR Carbine would work well in those circumstances.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:28 PM (MVjcR)

45 7.62x39 is the ideal carbine length rifle round.

Posted by: dd at October 14, 2018 07:28 PM (V2W/Q)

46 I had the opportunity to pick up a couple of Russian AKs back in the early nineties... The guy with the goods drown when his canoe capsized with his merchandise in a freakazoid hailstorm.

Posted by: Fritz at October 14, 2018 07:28 PM (Z9C5C)

47 Or a semi-auto Uzi.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:28 PM (MVjcR)

48 I'm afraid I can't offer much of anything to the gun thread. History I know, the specifics of the guns, not so much

Posted by: josephistan at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (Izzlo)

49 NGU, you must make part of your wedding gift, 2 Siamese kittens.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (tEVlJ)

50 Designed in 1945 by Kalashnikov and introduced to the Soviet Army in 1948



Sturmgewehr 44: Yeah, very original

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (SiINZ)

51 48 I'm afraid I can't offer much of anything to the gun thread. History I know, the specifics of the guns, not so much
Posted by: josephistan at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (Izzlo)
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That's OK! Do you do any shooting?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

52 I have thought that the AK safety is a direct steal from the Remington Model 8

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 07:30 PM (mUa7G)

53 Steel targets are great when the knees say don't walk 100 yards to change a piece of paper.

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I have a reactive target similar to the ball here:

https://amzn.to/2J0iVXK

I find it great fun to shoot with a pistol.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 07:30 PM (+y/Ru)

54 Anyone want to talk about the AK-74?


Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (mUa7G)

Or the AK-12 and AK-15?
Posted by: Bert G at October 14, 2018 07:23 PM (OMsf+)

Or the AKM?

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 07:30 PM (tKF1g)

55 That was short term. They corrected most of the problems which were chroming and cleaner ammo. And doing away with the myth that it was self cleaning.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp

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You still have a bullet that was simply too small.

AKs have their own issues, most of which is the production quality was all over the place.

Still, had the American military made something more simple and rugged like the AK with the larger caliber, I think it would have been way better than the M-16 experience.

Posted by: Blago at October 14, 2018 07:31 PM (UfkIY)

56 It's important to note that the AKM's - and later AK-74's - reputation for reliability was earned by models that were put together right. (AKM is the more modern, stamped-receiver variant that most US clones are coped from)

Crap AK's will have crap reliability, especially with crap maintenance. Just ask anyone who had to train Iraqis and Afghanis on AKM's.

The good news is that most copies available in the US are decent from a functional standpoint, even if you sometimes have to watch out for things like canted front sights. There are a ton of good resources, and even a cursory effort at doing your homework should net you a good rifle. Usually this is a matter of avoiding canted sights, improperly heat treated receivers and fire control parts (resulting in egged out holes and peened components).


Now, on the longevity front; ability to operate in dirty conditions does not automatically equate to longevity. It's not uncommon for the rails bent into the top of stamped AKM clone receivers to start cracking at around 30k rounds. These can sometimes be repaired with welding. You have the option of getting rifles with thicker RPK pattern receivers, though. These can be distinguished from AKM receivers externally if you learn what to look for.

They are an effective rifle that will last a few lifetimes of real use. The round counts needed to clap them out usually require deep pockets and recreational use.


M16/AR15's on the other hand will usually have the lower receiver (as long as you don't get stupid messing with the fire control parts) and bolt carrier last forever, with upper receivers giving up the ghost from wear after you hit 6-figure round counts. On the original pattern 20" rifles you might never break or wear out a bolt; on the shorter ones, the shorter you go, the more rapidly you will break bolts and shoot out barrels (gas ports on the shorter ones erode faster, even if the throats don't).

Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 07:31 PM (67XdO)

57 AR or Mini 14.

Posted by: f'd at October 14, 2018 07:31 PM (UdKB7)

58 Almost forgot: There's a safety bulletin for Ruger American pistols:

https://tinyurl.com/ycfqa2tt


It seems that after 10,000 rounds the slides may develop cracks.

Posted by: Bert G at October 14, 2018 07:32 PM (OMsf+)

59 NGU, you must make part of your wedding gift, 2 Siamese kittens.



Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (tEVlJ)


And a complimentary checkup.
(It's 7:30: Your meetup with the in-laws is done already???)

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 07:32 PM (tT986)

60

You know. Hypothetically.

Just think of your investment as an offering to Teh Lady of the Lake.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 14, 2018 07:32 PM (HaL55)

61 ALthough I have a couple AKs (2 yugo underfolders, a AK pistol, 2 VZ 58s - looks like an AK but is not) and a Chinese Norinco NHM 91) I always likes the sks better.

It seems to reach out 50 -75 yards more with a little better accuracy. I liked the milled recvrs too.

I guess thats why I have a pile of SKS's 15 high now (just got in 2 paratroopers this week).

I have a model M sks that takes the AK mags which is the best of both worlds.

I love those Swiss rifles also and have 2 1896/11's, 2 1911's, and 7 K-31s (2 of em unissued) and a 1889. They all shoot better than I can.

One of the 1911's is a P series (the soldier took it home with him when his service was over).

I like the 1911s and 1896/11's a little better because the longer sight radius is good in case these ole eyes ever need to line up on one of them antifa snowflakes during the burning times.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 14, 2018 07:32 PM (yuVxc)

62 52 Did you ever notice that on the AK, top is safe, and the next position is rock and roll. I wonder how many third world AK's have ever been fired semi auto?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (xzqr4)

63 Are there any other expenses i should (hypothetically) factor in?

On that budget, what would you buy?
Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (sd1SN)

I won't be the only one to say this, but your numbers are off.

A good sight will (and often does) cost as much as the rifle, so they say.
But to wring out the most from an expensive gun you'll need a good glass.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (z79tQ)

64 ...$300 for ammo, $200 for optics, and an even $1000 for the rifle itself. Are there any other expenses i should (hypothetically) factor in?

Sorry to be "that guy" but you are not going to be happy with a $200 scope. And don't forget to budget for the mount and rings. That could easily be $100+. On plus side, there are many good rifles for < 1K.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (H3In4)

65 Gunz gunz gunz gunz GUUUUNNNZ!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

66 If your coming to the MoMe , my good friend will be here and he has three Boone/ Crockett animals.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:36 PM (tEVlJ)

67 ...Sup 'rons! Let's pretend I finally got my rifle layaway jar (hypothetically) as full as i want it: i set aside $300 for ammo, $200 for optics, and an even $1000 for the rifle itself. Are there any other expenses i should (hypothetically) factor in?

On that budget, what would you buy?

Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:21 PM (sd1SN)



You're doing it wrong.

Spend 'bout $350~$400 on the rifle. Savage w/ Accu-Trigger, or Ruger All-American, Mossberg MVP, etc. Those are all true near-MOA rifles, and many of the Rugers are proving to be Sub-MOA...luck of the draw to get a "sweet" one, but they're not rare.

Spend $500 ish on the scope, and another $200 on bases and rings.

Thousand dollar rifle with a $200 scope is only going to result in your realizing 1/2 the rifle's capability, at best.

Put some more money into top-end lessons from Weasel, or someone he'd recommend in your area.

Oh, and buy a huge variety of factory ammo till you find the recipe your rifle likes best. Then buy a case or pallet of it, to last you a lifetime.

Or, learn to reload and cook up your own. Either works.

Good luck.

AIM SMALL.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 07:38 PM (QzJWU)

68 66 If your coming to the MoMe , my good friend will be here and he has three Boone/ Crockett animals.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:36 PM (tEVlJ)
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That'll be cool!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

69 My mad max time weapon of choice will continue to be the 12 gauge pump with an extra rifled barrel for sabot / slugs.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:39 PM (2DOZq)

70 12 ... "Paper targets are all well and good, but give me a good steel target any day!"

Blake, that is so correct. When I introduced my niece and her husband to the wonders of a Rolling Block with 45-70 black powder cartridges, they were shooting at a steel target 200 yards away. Once they figured the range and started hitting the steel there was no stopping them. I had brought 80 rounds and could have brought 10 times more. They loved that 405 grain bullet making the target clang.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 07:40 PM (V+03K)

71 Your meetup with the in-laws is done already???)
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 07:32 PM (tT986)



Yup, just got home. Had a nice Osso Bucco

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (Fh8wK)

72 The placard in my K-31 showed the owner to be from Gruyeres. I got a kick out of that since I love Gruyere cheese so much.

It shoots well and I've always wanted to take a deer with it. I even bought some hunting ammo for it and tested it out at the range. But every time I think about taking it hunting, I imagine a monster buck walking out in low light conditions and me trying to pick up those iron sights with my old eyes. I need to take a buck early in the season and then take the K-31 out later to shoot a doe under good light conditions.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (Dgce0)

73 When you've got two rifles that are essentially world co-standards, the reason is niche.

AR-15: the professional's rifle. Accurate. Shits where it eats, so it's the choice of well-trained forces who have the discipline, resources and opportunity for proper cleaning and maintenance.

AK-47: the slob's rifle. Inaccurate, stone-axe reliable, the choice of semi-literate peasants who can keep it running in their Third World shithole with a motor-oil soaked knotted shoelace.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (j4zcI)

74 64
...$300 for ammo, $200 for optics, and an even $1000 for the rifle
itself. Are there any other expenses i should (hypothetically) factor
in?



Sorry to be "that guy" but you are not going to be happy with a $200
scope. And don't forget to budget for the mount and rings. That could
easily be $100+. On plus side, there are many good rifles for <
1K.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (H3In4)
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Completely agree about the glass. I have heard people complain about overpaying for a gun, for ammo, but never, ever overpay for glass.

A few years ago I was at the rifle range, one of the semi-regulars paid something like a thousand for a scope on his custom .308. When someone grumbled about the price, he just said, "here, take a look".

Silence and nodding followed.




Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (UsCnO)

75 How do you guys account for the deflection off of the steel target?

Asking for my horses.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (tEVlJ)

76 I won't be the only one to say this, but your numbers are off.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (z79tQ)

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at October 14, 2018 07:34 PM (H3In4)

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 07:38 PM (QzJWU)

Not to say I told you so, but...
There'll be more, surely.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (z79tQ)

77 Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:36 PM (tEVlJ)
Oh my daughter will have multiple cats

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (Fh8wK)

78
Thousand dollar rifle with a $200 scope is only going to result in your realizing 1/2 the rifle's capability, at best.

Put some more money into top-end lessons from Weasel, or someone he'd recommend in your area.
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Yes. A million times yes regarding the bases and rings. I've seen guys take a $6,000 custom rifle and a $2,000 precision scope and decide to save $100 on bases and rings.

Oh, and thanks for the kind words Jim, but WeaselSkool is free!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:43 PM (MVjcR)

79 My favorite AR's are in caliber other than 5.56. Two 6.5 Grendels and a Rock River in 7.62 x39. The Rock River uses AK magazines and has been flawless. Never hiccuped even when shooting mostly 3rd world steel ammo. Still, I think a piston version of the AR would be superior to the direct impingement system. I run all the AR's wet and clean religiously. If you do that, they are reliable as AK's.

Posted by: Agitator at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (atO6j)

80 Why are you still using gmail- it is the enemy of all gun owners.

Posted by: grnberet at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (9qgwW)

81 75 How do you guys account for the deflection off of the steel target?

Asking for my horses.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:42 PM (tEVlJ)
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The bullets mostly splatter when hitting steel and the shrapnel doesn't go very far.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

82 Not gun-related, but:

Oh noes!!! Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande have BROKEN UP!!!

How will we all go on?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

83 Another good target I use I make. I take black construction paper, and start placing saltine crackers from the dollar store on it with Joe Biden approved library paste. They tend to disintegrate when hit wit a .22, which I like shooting at 100 yards. Also, birds and squirrels get a treat.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:45 PM (xzqr4)

84 New episode of Hollywood weapons. It did the Quigley Down Under rest. The bucket shot and The Quigley ( what today's snipers refer to getting to targets with one shot) .

The Bucket Shot was Down At 564 yards . He couldn't hit it free standing but did hit it with a support rest. A more skilled shooter with the Sharps could have done it. The Quigley was done at 800 yards. I was surprised but it the shot went through both targets like butter.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

85 Oh noes!!! Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande have BROKEN UP!!!



How will we all go on?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)


She's got one less problem without him.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 07:46 PM (tT986)

86 Rest = test

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

87 82 Not gun-related, but:

Oh noes!!! Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande have BROKEN UP!!!

How will we all go on?!?!?!?!?
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

Time to make my move.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

88 Weasel, they all made it through last year just fine so I was kind of kidding.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (tEVlJ)

89 For those coming to the TX MoMe, I'm bringing a rifle with a NightForce Competition scope. Be sure to check it out!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (MVjcR)

90 Oh noes!!! Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande have BROKEN UP!!!

How will we all go on?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)



I didn't know she was dating the 5th Doctor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (SiINZ)

91 this is a "you live in antifa terroritory and only own a 22???" rifle.



Or would be, if this werent merely a thought exercise.

Posted by: phone of kari at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (sd1SN)

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you can get a decent quality AR for ~$500. spend a few bucks more that $200 for some good optics then plow the rest into ammo for training AND SHTF.

or start a pistol/shotgun fund with the difference. a decent pump 12 gauge is $200-300

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (kRSP9)

92 Oh noes!!! Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande have BROKEN UP!!!
How will we all go on?!?!?!?!?
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (miE9U)

So, you're saying there's a chance?!

Posted by: Horny Millenial Fap fap fap fapfapfap at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (z79tQ)

93 Why are you still using gmail- it is the enemy of all gun owners.

Posted by: grnberet at October 14, 2018 07:44 PM (9qgwW)


COBs should be getting Blanco Basura to hook them up with moronhorde.com email addresses.

Posted by: Bert G at October 14, 2018 07:48 PM (OMsf+)

94 Insomniac, go for it!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:48 PM (miE9U)

95 Arsenal of Bulgaria makes a very nice milled receiver AK. They apparently picked up their forging and milling tech from Steyr. They are very solid and rattle free

Posted by: Coelacanth at October 14, 2018 07:48 PM (OCzl8)

96 Speaking of Commie Bastards - Chris Wallace is interviewing the Chinese Ambassador.


Not sure about the Ambassador's political leanings.

Posted by: mikeyG at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (LL1Be)

97 A friend of mine, upon the pawn shop purchase of a 1964 Ithaca Model 37, found the original sales receipt behind the buttplate, from ~45 years before.

Posted by: A Friend at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (kXPT5)

98 88 Weasel, they all made it through last year just fine so I was kind of kidding.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:47 PM (tEVlJ)
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I'm glad you brought it up! Can't be too careful.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (MVjcR)

99 " You still have a bullet that was simply too small. "

This usually results in people talking about bore diameter, but it is becoming very evident with modern ammunition development that caliber is probably the least important element as long as you keep it reasonable. For a general purpose intermediate round -


- You need a certain amount of mass, probably at least 75gr, possibly all the way out to ~125+


- If your mass is too low in proportion to your caliber, you will have stubby projectiles with crap ballistic coefficient (7.62x39, x35, and 7.92x33). These work fine at shorter ranges but we can do better.

- If you have too much mass - for example, if you are trying to make the projectile longer for a higher BC - you will have trouble getting up to a good speed to get a good ballistic coefficient far downrange, and/or you will have more recoil than you want for a general purpose round.

The end result of this is - pick the mass you need to get the job done, then pick a mix of projectile profile (and thus caliber) and powder you want to use to get the job done.


Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (67XdO)

100 94 Insomniac, go for it!!
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 07:48 PM (miE9U)

*gathers chicken parts*

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (NWiLs)

101 Question for the Horde: about how much does an SKS cost these days?

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (tKF1g)

102 Question for y'all gun experts:

I guess this is hypothetical since I do not own a weapon, but I was wondering something. You know how places like movie theaters say no weapons allowed and yet make no effort to ensure compliance? (I don't usually perceive a threat at these places, but I do feel the most likely place a person might get shot is in a gun-free zone.)

Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered? (I mean a responsible person who would never display the weapon or shoot someone except to save a life.) What happens then? Does the person just say "Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW8)

103 Ben Had, if you mean physical deflection of the round, steel is always either hanging, or on some move-able arm/spring-linked base/hinge, so it can fall back and then "self heal" (stand upright again). Or a hinge with no spring, so it just falls back (popper).


Distant targets, for rifle, the deflected round should not be an issue (though often they are housed inside heavy wood shelters, to capture side-riccochets). Soil at the base should be soft. Gotta watch which ammo you use - AR500 steel will take a beating, but no reason to abuse if faster, so steel-core ammo is usually verboten.


For handgun, obviously steel is much closer, same considerations apply - steel moves/swings/falls. No magnum ammo.


Surprising how much lead splatter can travel back towards the shooter, but it's something that typicaly just stings, at most, normal protective wear more than adequate.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (QDnY+)

104 97 A friend of mine, upon the pawn shop purchase of a 1964 Ithaca Model 37, found the original sales receipt behind the buttplate, from ~45 years before.
Posted by: A Friend at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (kXPT5)
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Very cool! Big fan of the Ithaca 37. Mine is from the 80s I think.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

105 I wish I could come to TX this weekend. Sigh. Have to be at Andrews so unless PDT lends me his plane, I can just send my best wishes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (Fh8wK)

106 Yes. A million times yes regarding the bases and rings. I've seen guys
take a $6,000 custom rifle and a $2,000 precision scope and decide to
save $100 on bases and rings.

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Barrett makes zero tolerance scope rings that completely connect with the scope tube, which keeps it from moving around.

yeah, they ain't cheap, but like the man said, "buy once, cry once".

YMMV.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (kRSP9)

107 102. Forgot to mention - the state is Colorado.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW8)

108 *gathers chicken parts*
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 07:49 PM (NWiLs)

Take a glazed donut too, she likes those.

Posted by: Horny Millenial Fap fap fap fapfapfap at October 14, 2018 07:51 PM (z79tQ)

109 "There's a safety bulletin for Ruger American pistols"

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And that's why Gun Commandment #17 is "Do not buy a Ruger until the design is five years old."

I love Ruger (two New Vaqueros, a Service Six, a Mark III, a 10/22 and a 10/22 Compact on the way that's getting an underfold stock), but I won't be a beta tester for them.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 07:52 PM (j4zcI)

110 We shot my smoothbore at small arms ballistic proof board from a job we did. It stopped every handgun round. A bullet bounced straight back probably 50 feet at my co-worker. If it would have hit him it wouldn't have done much but give him a bruise.
Usually a steel target isn't fixed so some energy is used up when striking, yes?

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 07:52 PM (T4oHT)

111 101 The local pawn shop had a Yugo foe $400 last week, and something with a synthetic stock for the same. Being a pawn shop, probably negotiable. Word of advice, Yugo's do not have chromed bores, so check it out if you buy one of those.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:52 PM (xzqr4)

112 "Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered? "

The responsible thing is to call 911 that a guy is "brandishing" and then watch the fun begin.

Sell more popcorn!

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 07:53 PM (1UZdv)

113 *gathers chicken parts*

God help me, I do love this place.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at October 14, 2018 07:53 PM (H3In4)

114 Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW

Never happened to me but my plan is Oops didn't see the sign. Anyway , most times they would just ask you to leave.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:53 PM (2DOZq)

115 Also, birds and squirrels get a treat.
Posted by: bill
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Hmmm. This is good paste.

Posted by: Joe 'Bird' Biden at October 14, 2018 07:53 PM (kXPT5)

116 A Ruger 10/22 with 16 inch barrel and synthetic stock, Elite Iron suppressor, Aimpoint patrol optic and Ruger 25 round magazines.
Squirrels are not a problem around my house.

I sold AKs in our shop but they had poor ergonomics that didn't appeal to me and you can watch a YouTube video of an M-16 vs AK-47 full auto magazine dump. The AK failed the test.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (bML9A)

117 Forgive me for just razzing you guys a little. I just lock the older mares in the front pasture so this is not even a question.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (tEVlJ)

118 Phone of Kari @ 24 - You can pick up a good basic AR-15 with iron sights for ~$500. I would recommend skipping the scope for now and spend the balance on ammo. If you plan to eventually install optics (red dot, scope, etc.), get folding back up iron sights. They will fold down out of the way. And the optics should be quick-detach so you can easily remove them when they shit the bed.

If you don't have a knowledgeable friend willing/able to teach you, you should factor in that cost as well.

Sorry to be one of those internet gun guys.

Posted by: Butch at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (hXu8T)

119 AK action rifles are interesting. Everyone should own one or 10.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)

120 Forgive me for just razzing you guys a little. I just lock the older mares in the front pasture so this is not even a question.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (tEVlJ)

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Where is this front pasture of which you speak?

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza and His Bucket at October 14, 2018 07:55 PM (rQM9Y)

121 117 Forgive me for just razzing you guys a little. I just lock the older mares in the front pasture so this is not even a question.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 07:54 PM (tEVlJ)
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WW is really looking forward to seeing the horses!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 07:55 PM (MVjcR)

122 I have CCW for CO, and the instructor for our class, a Sherrif's Deputy in Adams county, a member of the intercounty front range swat team, first into the theater when the mass shooting took place, and the chief range instructor for the county's police academy, said:

"I carry everywhere unless it is patently illegal. Signs saying "gun free zone" it means nothing to me. However, I never wear clothes that can telegraph my gun."

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 14, 2018 07:55 PM (4ZE6o)

123 YouTube the steel plate shooting championship and you will see that steel targets are safe.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:55 PM (2DOZq)

124 No range this past week, but RO day at outdoor range is this next week. Hoping to finally get some good steel practice in with both the 1911 and the Model 66. Haven't been doing that, and it shows at the informal competitions I do.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)

125 Somewhat related to the gun thread, since everything involving guns here in California ends up in front of the 9th Circuit sooner or later...
Trump has nominated three new justices to the 9th Circuit, and they're all members of the Federalist Society. That's still not enough to give us a sane majority, but it's three more steps toward that eventual goal.
Harris and Feinstein are, of course, both throwing hissy fits. They're complaining that the White House didn't consult with them and get their approval. But the article about the new nominations over at American Thinker stated that the White House had been negotiating with them throughout the summer.

Posted by: junior at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (cdZKy)

126 Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered? (I mean a responsible person who would never display the weapon or shoot someone except to save a life.) What happens then? Does the person just say "Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW

A wide multitude of things MAY happen, from mild and most likely to wild and life-threatening.
Most likely, someone sees it and tells mgmt. and they ask you to leave.
Less likely, people around you freak out and you panic and run away.
Not as rare as it should be, someone calls the po po and you get SWATTED as they want to teach you a lesson*

*They being the anti-gun zealot you exposed your piece to.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (z79tQ)

127 Pistols are a way to fight to your long guns. Shotguns and AK's are nice to throw in your truck where they will live until you need to clear a path through a bunch of walkers.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (zLDYs)

128 Never happened to me but my plan is Oops didn't see the sign. Anyway , most times they would just ask you to leave.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:53 PM (2DOZq)


Yeah, I wondered if your license to carry means you have promised to pay attention to signs like that.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (4HMW8)

129 If you are watching 60 Minutes on TV right now, you are witnessing the most disgusting display of disrespect ever given to a US President in a face-to-face interview.

The bitch is Leslie Stahl.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (4ZE6o)

130 Time to make my move.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

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I understand she likes donuts. Pick up a dozen on the way over.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (rQM9Y)

131 @101 surfperch "How much does an SKS cost these days?"

depends. The 2 paratroopers I bought this week went for 395 each which I thought was a good deal these days.

Yugo M59/66A1s- will go in the 400-500 dollar range.

M59s for more due to the rariry

Russians for even more

ROmanians for even more (due to the rarirty)

Albanians start at 800+ if they are in bad shape and go up from there. They only made 17000 of em and the UN ground up half of those so they are rare.

East Germans, North Koreans, Polish Honor guard, and North Vietnamese are thousands due to the rarity in the US.

I remember when SKS's went for 59 bucks each and they had barrels full. I should have bought truckloads of em.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (yuVxc)

132 Any of you morons ever buy a firearm and never fire it? Sounds silly, I know. But I have one. A Mossberg 12 gauge. Just never took it to the range. Also have a beautiful wood stock 22 that's also never tasted powder.

Am I the only one?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (pUDQf)

133 "but like the man said, "buy once, cry once".

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An expression that still makes no sense.

You buy once when you bought quality and don't have to replace it.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (j4zcI)

134 111 101 The local pawn shop had a Yugo foe $400 last week, and something with a synthetic stock for the same. Being a pawn shop, probably negotiable. Word of advice, Yugo's do not have chromed bores, so check it out if you buy one of those.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 07:52 PM (xzqr4)

Thanks, glad to hear that it's still within my price range (which isn't much).

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 07:58 PM (tKF1g)

135 A bullet bounced straight back probably 50 feet at my co-worker.
Posted by: Skip
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I was hit in the chest by a .32 Short that bounced off of an Oak board. Surprised, but not even bruised. Also, object lesson, not sure of what, except the fact that a .32 Short isn't exactly a manstopper.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 14, 2018 07:58 PM (kXPT5)

136 Russians for even more

ROmanians for even more (due to the rarirty)

Albanians start at 800+ if they are in bad shape and go up from there. They only made 17000 of em and the UN ground up half of those so they are rare.

East Germans, North Koreans, Polish Honor guard, and North Vietnamese are thousands due to the rarity in the US.

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Are we still talking about guns?

Posted by: josephistan at October 14, 2018 07:58 PM (Izzlo)

137 Those Swiss rifles must be very nice (um, duh - Swiss). I recall years back when Classic and others had them in abundance, all the time.


There's a whole sub-cult of Swiss rifle shooters (as for all major types).


My time/ambitions/tastes just didn't extend that far, preferred to stick to just a few types, which have ended up being Mosins and M-1s.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 07:58 PM (QDnY+)

138 " you are witnessing the most disgusting display of disrespect ever given to a US President in a face-to-face interview. "

But he's beating on her.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (1UZdv)

139 "I carry everywhere unless it is patently illegal. Signs saying "gun free zone" it means nothing to me. However, I never wear clothes that can telegraph my gun."

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 14, 2018 07:55 PM (4ZE6o)


So just because an establishment puts up a sign, it's not necessarily illegal?

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (4HMW8)

140 Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered?

Depends on your local laws. In Texas, if the notice does not conform to certain specific laws, you are not actually violating any criminal statute, only the business's policy. If you refuse to leave after being given proper notice, then you are trespassing.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (H3In4)

141 Yeah, I wondered if your license to carry means you have promised to pay attention to signs like that.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (4HMW

No but there are places you are prohibited from concealed carry and you can't say you forgot. But again most times they will just ask you to leave,

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

142 On the subject of AK accuracy, both of mine are accurate enough with iron sights. Minute of man at 300 yards. My Yugo SKS might be a tad more accurate at at that range but it's milled and short stroke piston driven so I would expect it to be slightly better.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (yQpMk)

143 Another Lurker here... I have a Saiga 7.62x39 hunting rifle converted back to AK status, just so it looks/handles better. The weird thing about my rifle is that the damn thing is LOUD. I shoot a number of calibers/rounds but the AK is by far the loudest. At the range, I always get looks from others whenever I start firing. Anyone else have any comments on this sound issue with this caliber? (I use cheap Tula metal case ammo).

Posted by: Spankmeister at October 14, 2018 07:59 PM (dn8lZ)

144 WeaselWoman, Let me tell you about George.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:00 PM (tEVlJ)

145 @102 Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow
discovered? (I mean a responsible person who would never display the
weapon or shoot someone except to save a life.) What happens then?
Does the person just say "Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?--------------------
It really depends on local laws and attitudes. If the policy is a corporate one, and you're in a gun friendly area, then you might get off with a "warning". But here in LA County, I think it's pretty safe to say that you'd be asked to leave at minimum.

Posted by: junior at October 14, 2018 08:00 PM (cdZKy)

146 Yeah, I wondered if your license to carry means you have promised to pay attention to signs like that.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:56 PM (4HMW

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Here in GA, if they would like to make places off limits to carry, then they have to use a state approved sign. If you go in carrying anyway and they notice it, they first have to ask you to leave. It only gets legal if you refuse that request.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 08:00 PM (I16G8)

147 Where is this front pasture of which you speak?
Posted by: Andrew Mendoza
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In front of the back pasture. Duh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 14, 2018 08:01 PM (kXPT5)

148 Les, I assume Trump can handle himself. It's the "editing" at 60 Minutes (and elsewhere, obviously) that can't be trusted a bit, of course.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:01 PM (QDnY+)

149 "But he's beating on her."

Never give an inch.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 08:01 PM (1UZdv)

150 Weasel, when I'm done , you will be building a barn and corrals on WeaselAcres.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:01 PM (tEVlJ)

151 Thanks, all for your responses. Makes sense that being asked to leave would likely be the result.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 08:02 PM (4HMW8)

152 Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (pUDQf)

I posted above I have still not shot the Ruger PC I bought a few of months ago.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (2DOZq)

153 Leslie is getting wet.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (1UZdv)

154 Love my Yugo SKS. No magazines to buy/store, and my case of surplus ammo all came on stripper clips. I replaced the rear notch sight with a Williams (IIRC) peep. I leave the screw-in aperature out and just shoot with the ghost ring. It aligns perfectly with the front sight hood.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (j4zcI)

155 38>> Congrats doc!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (0GuIv)

156 Unless it's federal or state - airport, state or federal buildings, schools, etc, gun free zones are just corporate policies. They can ask you to leave the premises and you must comply. But the constitution and a state CCL come first. Corporate policy second.

The right to be on their property doesn't exist though. So you'd be trespassing if you didn't leave.

Best just to avoid giving money to asshole corporations that do that.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (pUDQf)

157 150 Weasel, when I'm done , you will be building a barn and corrals on WeaselAcres.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:01 PM (tEVlJ)
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Oh, great!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:04 PM (MVjcR)

158 Yup, range day here, too ... mostly shooting the J-frame .38. A few mags through the 9mm, and a half dozen rounds from the .44 mag.
Buddy shot his AK, and his new Beretta .22 pistol (Neo ?).

Rain and cold feet caused us to wrap it up early.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QAdJD)

159 Considering that a lot of people seem to be getting firearms, or perhaps just rifles, for the first time and are getting them for non-recreational purposes - a note on scopes:

~$200 Wal Mart blister pack scopes are largely a complete waste of time and money. Especially consider that you're using time, gas, and ammo (and maybe range fees, for some of you) to try and zero them. A scope that won't hold zero or track correctly is worse than no scope at all.


The cheapest magnified glass I would consider for serious use are the lower end SWFA SS scopes: specifically the 1-4x, the fixed 10x, and the 3-9x. Their entire schtick is no-frills glass that tracks correctly and is durable. They will be heavy, the glass will not knock your pants off, and the reticles are basic, but they should work.

That said, if you are looking at glass for this sort of reason and can actually afford $1k plus rings, stop being cheap and do so - roll over to SnipersHide and see what is a good bang for the buck with a good track record.

Need a red dot on a budget? For serious use, a new Aimpoint PRO or a used one, depending on budget. Period. If you can't afford that, get acquainted with your irons. I don't care if you have astigmatism; use a rear peep sight co-witnessed to clear up the dot, because anything with a similar level of ruggedness and no astigmatism issues will cost twice as much.

Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 08:04 PM (67XdO)

160 . . . . rifle layaway jar (hypothetically) as full as i want it: i set aside $300 for ammo, $200 for optics, and an even $1000 for the rifle itself. Are there any other expenses i should hypothetically) factor in? On that budget, what would you buy?

Another layaway jar?
Rule of thumb is rifle cost is the minimum optics cost, and 50-50 is my recommended split. If you're target shooting you prioritize power and repeatability, the ability to keep zero through power and range adjustments. For hunting you want simplicity, bigger objectives, and high quality glass for deep woods and dusk brightness. For self defense you don't need an optic --the perp is right there!

If you're just plinking or recreational shooting, you don't need $1000 for the rifle, split some off for the optic. I've learned the hard way firearms are more accurate than humans, and humans are limited by what they can see.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QqKVc)

161 I don't think my tv gets cbs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (Fh8wK)

162 The biggest gun news this week is Ruger announcing a new version of their Ruger Precision Rifle series in Magnum Calibers, specifically .300 Win Mag and the mighty .338 Lapua. The Lapua is a true 1 mile capable rifle for a likely street price around $1600. Ruger just keeps taking my money by making stuff I want.

Posted by: DanInMN at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (/5ebB)

163 I've seen pretty impressive shooting (100 - 200 yds, steel) with SKSs at matches.


Sama-zar-YAD-niy kara-BEEN See-MOAN-a-va, for those wondering what "SKS" stands for.


Self-loading carbine, Simonov design


Simonov
Shpagin (as in PPsh-41)
Degtyarov


Aside from Kalashnikov, the other big names in Soviet small arms design, pre- and WWII era.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (QDnY+)

164 I replaced the rear notch sight with a Williams (IIRC) peep. I leave the screw-in aperature out and just shoot with the ghost ring. It aligns perfectly with the front sight hood.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 08:03 PM (j4zcI)

Noted. thx.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (z79tQ)

165 I have several long guns I have put ammo through because I do not have ready access to long enough ranges (100 yards).

I should make a run to the CMP range in Talladega.

Posted by: Butch at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (hXu8T)

166 Edit: "Rule of thumb is 1/2 rifle cost is the minimum optics cost . . . .

Posted by: hooodathunkit at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM (QqKVc)

167 148

That's what I worry about, the editing. PDT has no reason to trust these slime balls won't do everything in their power to take him out of context to make him look bad. Perhaps he should insist on everything being done LIVE.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 08:06 PM (PkVlr)

168 "143 The weird thing
about my rifle is that the damn thing is LOUD. .... Anyone else have any
comments on this sound issue with this caliber? (I use cheap Tula metal
case ammo). "

Does it have a muzzle brake? That'd make it pants-on-head loud. Otherwise... everything similar is that kind of loud.

Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 08:06 PM (67XdO)

169 Concealed carry where it's a no no can be dicey. I used to do a little running for my lawyer/landlord. Being a couple blocks from the court house, I would walk over, give the Deputy screening people my keys, Swiss army knife, and carry piece. He'd put them in an envelope, I'd pick up after dropping paper. Had to take some stuff to the county slammer, and not knowing what to expect, put the gun in may trunk. The CO's at check in had a fit over the holster.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 08:07 PM (xzqr4)

170 I should make a run to the CMP range in Talladega.
Posted by: Butch at October 14, 2018 08:05 PM

Great range! I shot my AR-10 there out to 600 yards. Also shot my first M1 there!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:08 PM (pUDQf)

171 7.63 has same energy at 300 M as 5.57 deos at 100 M!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 14, 2018 08:08 PM (JFO2v)

172 Having the owner's name in the butt of the rifle reminded me of the old time Marine Corps practice of writing down your battle sight dope on a piece of paper and putting it in the cleaning gear compartment of the butt of your 03 or M1. Idea was anybody could pick up somebody else's weapon and get on target fast in combat.

Posted by: ThAt Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 14, 2018 08:09 PM (lApJ5)

173 AlaBAMA - Would I be able to zero my rifles there?

Posted by: Butch at October 14, 2018 08:09 PM (hXu8T)

174 Weasel...just shot you an email at the morongunthread address.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 14, 2018 08:09 PM (8dJfY)

175 Trump went on 60 Minutes and did his usual thing of never giving in on the premise asked and giving bull rush answers that most people will agree make sense.

Interlocutor Stahl kept repeating questions with loaded premises and, to most people, looked like a badgering ass.

By the end, she was dewy wet.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 08:10 PM (1UZdv)

176 "See-MOAN-a-va"

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See-MOAN-ahv, I believe. "See-MOAN-a-va" (Simonova) would be a chick.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 08:10 PM (j4zcI)

177 Just had a flash back. I can remember sitting in the trap house flinging clay pigeons for the shot gunners.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (tEVlJ)

178 Germany's leading right-of-center daily Die Welt this morning reveals that Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist, but a high-level operative for the Saudi intelligence service, an intimate of Osama bin Laden, and the nephew of the shadiest of all Arab arms dealers, the infamous Adnan Khashoggi. John Bradley reported last week in the Spectator that Khashoggi, who allegedly met a grisly end in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist organization that among other things wants to replace the Saudi monarchy with a modern Islamist totalitarian state.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (Fh8wK)

179 Am I the only one?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 07:57 PM (pUDQf)

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nope.

we were supposed to go to the range for several things, to include breaking in the barrels of some rifles during Resident 3vil's unscheduled vacation this summer, but she starts her new j*b tomorrow, and we ain't shot shit the whole time, other than the BB pistol we bought for the rats in the yard.

of course, some things we have that are true collectables aren't likely to go out either.


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (kRSP9)

180 One time, at a steels match they used to have up in Corona (SoCal gun nutz morons may know it, Rahaague's, mostly a shotgun range), there was a funny steels incident.


There was one of those 6-plate plate racks, at the end (inside the U of the berm), up against the end. RO with timer is back behind me, everyone else is much further back.


On the 2nd or 3rd plate, when I hit it, I felt a sting on one side of my nose, and felt blood trickling down. Didn't hurt much, I knew it was just a nick, so I kept shooting, and wanted to shock the squad if I could. When the rack was clean, I stopped/cleared/holstered, then turned around.


Hilarious. Various people exclaimed "oh, he's hit!" and stuff like that, but the excitement was brief, as I was laughing and wiping the blood off. That was with jacketed 9mm ammo (factory, before I was reloading).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (QDnY+)

181
Columbo is on and it's the 4th and final stint of Patrick McGoohan as the murderer. He's a crooked mortician. He just killed Rue McClanahan with a blunt instrument.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (f1Vqw)

182 So Marines and Special Forces wanted an AR style rifle but with more power. Crane people to m 14 7.62 x 51 and floater it on an aluminum magnesium stock with rails for OTS equipment. They loved it!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 14, 2018 08:12 PM (JFO2v)

183 Taro, no, in this case the "a" at the end is the genitive case - so, in English free translation, "Simonov's self-loading carbine".


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:12 PM (QDnY+)

184 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 14, 2018 08:09 PM (8dJfY)
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Got it! OK if I respond tomorrow?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:13 PM (MVjcR)

185 173 AlaBAMA - Would I be able to zero my rifles there?
Posted by: Butch at October 14, 2018 08:09 PM (hXu8T


I believe so Butch. They have a 100 yard range. I'd call to double check though.

They make you qual on the 200 before you can move to 300. Then they let you move to 600.

All electronic targets on that range which is awesome.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:13 PM (pUDQf)

186 Emmie -
in Wisconsin, carrying concealed in a posted gun-free area is charged as "trespassing", and can draw a fine up to $1000.

Other states, I dunno.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 14, 2018 08:14 PM (QAdJD)

187 In case the dems win both the House and Senate, make sure you stock up on another 1,000 rounds of votes.

Posted by: Anchovy at October 14, 2018 08:15 PM (srWwQ)

188 Good to hear, Ignoramus.


Gee - challenging false premises - even making that the bulk of an interview ...... where I have seen that suggested before? For over a decade? Sometimes to high-profile principals facing weak-minded interviewers spouting the hysterical crap du jour?


Oh, right.


But they never - never - followed the advice, even when they agreed to before-hand, and consequently had lousy interviews.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:15 PM (QDnY+)

189 181
Columbo is on and it's the 4th and final stint of Patrick McGoohan as the murderer. He's a crooked mortician. He just killed Rue McClanahan with a blunt instrument.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (f1Vqw)

He should have just waited for the STDs to do the job for him.

Posted by: Zombie Bea Arrthur at October 14, 2018 08:15 PM (Izzlo)

190 181 That's the tricky thing about burning questions: once they're burned, they're just ashes. Ashes!

Posted by: Just one more thing at October 14, 2018 08:15 PM (Pfm7H)

191 The American Spectator noticed that Khashoggi was a MoBro, too, but nobody paid attention.

Our mainstream media is worthless.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 08:15 PM (ykYG2)

192 Been thinking about nv source for an M4. Purpose would be to use with a Trijicon. Know nothing about nvg vs. nv optic on firearm, recommendations for literature to read or an url would be appreciated.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at October 14, 2018 08:16 PM (0MIFZ)

193 183 - I humbly stand corrected. I respectfully yield to anyone who uses the phrase "genitive case."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 14, 2018 08:16 PM (j4zcI)

194 @178 Germany's leading right-of-center daily Die Welt this morning reveals
that Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist, but a high-level operative
for the Saudi intelligence service, an intimate of Osama bin Laden, and
the nephew of the shadiest of all Arab arms dealers, the infamous Adnan
Khashoggi. John Bradley reported last week in the Spectator that
Khashoggi, who allegedly met a grisly end in a Saudi consulate in
Istanbul, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist
organization that among other things wants to replace the Saudi monarchy
with a modern Islamist totalitarian state.-------------------
Read a piece a couple of days ago that suggested that he was likely quite literally the head of the political movement for Muslim Brotherhood-types in Saudi Arabia at the time of his (probable) death.

Posted by: junior at October 14, 2018 08:16 PM (cdZKy)

195 Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:11 PM (Fh8wK)

I don't believe anything Turkey says.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 08:17 PM (2DOZq)

196 An expression that still makes no sense.

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crying over the amount spent vs crying about having to replace a cheaper product.

i generally agree with you, but it is still a good saying, at least for getting a point across simply.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 08:17 PM (kRSP9)

197 When I see Soldiers and Marines on the news, I notice a lot of extras on their weapons. Other than optics, are the boys buying these out of pocket?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 08:19 PM (xzqr4)

198 I don't believe anything Turkey says.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 14, 2018 08:17 PM (2DOZq)\

Neither do I. Nor do i beleive anything any of those arab states say.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:19 PM (Fh8wK)

199
All electronic targets on that range which is awesome.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:13 PM (pUDQf)
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I've shot on electronic targets but never quite embraced them for competition, especially in big matches. Having said that, they are extremely useful - so much so I bought a Silver Mountain Solo setup for the range at the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:19 PM (Qf//Q)

200 Taro, it ain't nuthin'. You are correct about men's/women's surnames ending differently. Just coincidence that "Simonov" ends in "-ov", which makes the possessive case look like a woman's name.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:20 PM (QDnY+)

201 I don't believe anything. I don't even believe that.

Posted by: f'd at October 14, 2018 08:20 PM (UdKB7)

202 Re: this Jamal Khashoggi guy, does it make me a bad person that I don't give half a rats ass about what one arab did to another arab?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 08:20 PM (bjCNA)

203 The (steel) prairie dog got away - 10 rounds, no hits. One round hit the base and bounced him about a foot in the air. He is about 0.1 mil wide and 0.2 tall and the wind was giving me plus or minus 0.2. Earthquakes, gotta be.

RE: Bullets on steel - soft lead bullets deform like throwing a scoop of ice cream at a wall. Jacketed bullet are similar except the jacket turns into light weight high-velocity shrapnel, the lead core is still like ice cream. Paint the targets with white paint, the bullet splash makes a dark gray splash mark between 1 and 2 inches across on the steel - you can see and hear it.

The jacket and lead splash makes a trench under the target. Water collects there. In the rain, sometimes the only way to be sure of a hit is to see the bullet splash hit the water in the trench and throw water all over.

If you put steel targets inside a wood frame, find some old semi-truck mud flaps or rubber conveyor belts, cut into strips, and screw them into the wood frame around the target. The jackets will bounce off. Better yet, hang targets from old swing sets.

I regularly shoot steel from 100 to 1,000 and I have never seen anything come back.

Posted by: Richard at October 14, 2018 08:21 PM (hUZo5)

204 Ready for the Chiefs vs Pats! GO Chiefs!!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 14, 2018 08:22 PM (dUJdY)

205 I believe in a 98 mile an hour fastball from a side arming lefty and in Mariano Rivera cutter in his hay day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:22 PM (Fh8wK)

206 'does it make me a bad person that I don't give half a rats ass about what one arab did to another arab? '

No. Sounds like the guy needed disappearing.

Posted by: f'd at October 14, 2018 08:22 PM (UdKB7)

207 does it make me a bad person that I don't give half a rats ass about what one arab did to another arab?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 08:20 PM (bjCNA)

I feel the same way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2018 08:22 PM (Fh8wK)

208 I've shot on electronic targets but never quite embraced them for competition, especially in big matches. Having said that, they are extremely useful - so much so I bought a Silver Mountain Solo setup for the range at the farm.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:19 PM (Qf//Q)

I'm torn on them too. They are great for long range feedback but it's hard to use them to zero in for accuracy.

At CMP, I tried dialing in at 600 yards for wind, elevation, grain, etc but the target kept reporting hits in the exact same spots. So I'm not sold on how accurate they are other than to say you hit the target somewhere.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (pUDQf)

209 I am going to offer an armadillo hunt along with the MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (tEVlJ)

210 209 I am going to offer an armadillo hunt along with the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (tEVlJ) side arm or rifle

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 14, 2018 08:24 PM (JFO2v)

211 Well, my big gun moment this week was driving up Cade's Cove outside of Sevierville, TN, to see the Kentucky rifle exhibit before it closes on the 25th. Whole bunch of mountain rifles, ranging from 1790 up to 1875. For those that aren't familiar with the Southern Mountain Rifle variant of the Kentucky rifle, they were the original "black rifles," usually made with walnut stocks and iron furniture instead of the maple and brass of the lowland rifles. Very plain at first glance, but these examples were well shaped and proportioned, so the overall effect is understated elegance.

I a lot of fun, though I didn't enjoy Sevierville traffic or getting stuck behind flatlanders who are apparently frightened and confused by the concept of an S-curve and consequently drive fifteen miles below the speed limit.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (bZ7mE)

212 Karl Bannier?? That mofo owes me $50!
23 Dorenbachstrasse, my ass! More like freakin' Easy Street!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (Evws/)

213 Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered? (I mean a responsible person who would never display the weapon or shoot someone except to save a life.) What happens then? Does the person just say "Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW

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It's my understanding in NC that, comically, if you don't have a concealed carry permit you'll get in much less trouble than if you do. I don't remember the details, but I think it's essentially the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.

Funny how that sort of perverse incentive works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (9dTkj)

214 I think several things are true re the Kashoggi case (and I instantly wondered if he was related, assumed he was, to the famous arms dealer).


Turkey - and the Saudis - of course lie all the time.


The press, almost anywhere, cannot be relied on in matters of this sort. Certainly not in the MidEast, outside some Israeli outlets.


The guy's connection to the Brotherhood and jihadism don't really help understand anything, as long as ......


The actual facts aren't known. Which they don't appear to be. And it seems the "fiancee" got some facts wrong.


Some stuff gets the 48-hour rule. This sort of stuff gets the 48-DAY rule.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (QDnY+)

215 Grump usually posts this, but I haven't seen it yet so I'll take the liberty.

https://wn.nr/S2KZK6

This is a link to Classic Firearm's giveaway. They're giving away a freakin' Barrett M82A1! If you use the link to enter, I get bonus entries so if you're trying to maximize your chances, just go to their front page. I do think that if any Moon wins, he should promise to bring it to the first venue-suitablle MoMe.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (cTajt)

216 $ 50 to the first person that shoots this little dig up everything bastard.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (tEVlJ)

217 does it make me a bad person that I don't give half a rats ass about what one arab did to another arab?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 08:20


No, it's just dummies killing dummies. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 14, 2018 08:25 PM (bML9A)

218 ' I am going to offer an armadillo hunt along with the MoMe.'


Oh shit

Posted by: Charlie Brown's Armadillo at October 14, 2018 08:26 PM (UdKB7)

219 bill in arkansas, I am so gonna make up some of those saltine targets this week !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 14, 2018 08:26 PM (QAdJD)

220 206 We could do da disappearing, maybe Lake Milton if you know what we mean.

Posted by: Youngstown Ohio outfit, circa 1982 at October 14, 2018 08:26 PM (xzqr4)

221 Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (pUDQf)
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The manufacturers make all sorts of accuracy and reliability claims. In a national match, I want somebody in the pits marking targets. I realize that can be prone to error, too, but I've just seen a lot of inexplicable misses on electronic targets from people who do not miss. Also, I'm old and set in my ways.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:26 PM (Qf//Q)

222 rhennigantx, I don't care if it's an RPG.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:27 PM (tEVlJ)

223 I have a 386; my brother has 2 or 3 of them.

Other items not mentioned... the trigger group is heat-treated, and the 386 factory is also the place where the PLA makes their sniper rifles and Olympic-grade weapons, so it'll also has a chrome-lined, match-grade barrel.

Yes, they're worth extra penny you shell out to get one, IF you're very, *very* lucky to find one.

(A seven figure *might* get my interest... otherwise, no.)

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 14, 2018 08:27 PM (W+kMI)

224 Since gun thread and all - just got back from grocery shopping at Kroger's. High end white professional neighborhood, well lit, last place on earth you'd expect trouble.

Long story short, a minor fenderbender in the parking lot resulted in a *my dick's bigger than your's* shouting match and then a fair bit of shoving and punches being thrown - it had that bad feel to it and it got ugly. The lot was full of other shoppers and families. My wife and son were with me and son had gotten in front of me and was ready. I looked around and an awful lot of folks had pulled their kids and spouses behind them and had a hand on a hip.

I had left my EDC in the truck when I went into the store. I know better but I thought it was always a safe area. Stunad!

LEO showed up in force and deescalated after a bit of head cracking it but the moral of the story is, any place has to potential to go red.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 08:28 PM (9rIkM)

225 For those interested (doesn't include me) in following this Khashoggi thing, David Reaboi's twatters has a fairly obsessive approach to it.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:28 PM (QDnY+)

226 does it make me a bad person that I don't give half a rats ass about what one arab did to another arab?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 08:20 PM (bjCNA)

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About six or so years ago I realized I'd become that way regarding Baltimore, Chicago, Birmingham, etc.

All out of sh*ts to give. Fix it yourself.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 14, 2018 08:29 PM (9dTkj)

227 #202 Erdogan's Turkish media is lying their asses off about it too, I.B.
If you go to Insty's report on a German magazine's story about it, you'll find commentary showing how full of shit the Turks are over it.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 14, 2018 08:30 PM (Evws/)

228 Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 14, 2018 08:27 PM (W+kMI)
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I found this one hanging on the wall at my local range. It came with enough spare parts to damn near make another gun, and a bunch of ammo, too. I didn't think very long.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:30 PM (Qf//Q)

229 I'm so sick of the "AK is inaccurate" myth. The truth is that the AK is "battle accurate" and perfectly capable of scoring aimed hits at 300 yards and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiTUvryG5U&t=38s

Posted by: Guzalot at October 14, 2018 08:30 PM (schB/)

230 Long story short, a minor fenderbender in the parking lot resulted in a *my dick's bigger than your's* shouting match

I could have put an end to that.

Posted by: big john holmes at October 14, 2018 08:31 PM (ykYG2)

231 102 Question for y'all gun experts:

I guess this is hypothetical since I do not own a weapon, but I was wondering something. You know how places like movie theaters say no weapons allowed and yet make no effort to ensure compliance? (I don't usually perceive a threat at these places, but I do feel the most likely place a person might get shot is in a gun-free zone.)

Anyway, what if a person carries a gun in anyway and is somehow discovered? (I mean a responsible person who would never display the weapon or shoot someone except to save a life.) What happens then? Does the person just say "Oops, forgot I was carrying" or what?
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4HMW

In TX it depends. IF you are found to be carrying in an anti-gun location AND they do not have the Red 51 or the official 30.06 sign (concealed) or 30.07 (open carry) sign, the most they can ask you to do is to leave. With the presence of the signage indicated, you can be in serious hot water if caught by the cops while carrying.

Posted by: Catch Thirty Thr33 at October 14, 2018 08:31 PM (XZgzl)

232 Portland Mayor once again letting the Brownshirts run his POS city.

Hope no morons are in Portland. What a cluster.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:31 PM (pUDQf)

233 The Khassoggi thing looks staged and embellished. I don't know what to believe, and so believe nothing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 08:31 PM (1UZdv)

234 "an armadillo hunt"

The traditional Texan weapon of choice is the Dodge pickup.

Posted by: big john holmes at October 14, 2018 08:32 PM (ykYG2)

235 off sock!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 14, 2018 08:32 PM (ykYG2)

236 Was it here last week, somebody posted a link to a WWII training film explaining the actions/functions of small arms? Watched it last night, excellent. Nothing most people here don't know, but perhaps some details (had never thought about a machine gun firing as long as the trigger was pulled, in terms of the linkages/design).


On UToob. Hmmm, forget the title. Something like "how small arms work".


Love the WWII training films.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 08:32 PM (QDnY+)

237 Been thinking about nv source for an M4. Purpose would be to use with a Trijicon. Know nothing about nvg vs. nv optic on firearm, recommendations for literature to read or an url would be appreciated.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at October 14, 2018 08:34 PM (0MIFZ)

238 229 I'm so sick of the "AK is inaccurate" myth. The truth is that the AK is "battle accurate" and perfectly capable of scoring aimed hits at 300 yards and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiTUvryG5U&t=38s

Posted by: Guzalot at October 14, 2018 08:30 PM (schB/)
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Hope I didn't give you that impression. The one pictured above is pretty accurate at the distances you mention.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:34 PM (Qf//Q)

239 Ben Had, should we bring NVG for the armadillo hunt?

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 08:36 PM (zLDYs)

240 Got it! OK if I respond tomorrow?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:13 PM

No worries. It'll be a while before I start reloading anyway. I have a crap ton of 30-06 brass, 7.62 brass and 5.56 brass. I could spend all winter reloading this stuff. And I still haven't even bought dies for the 5.56. So no hurry.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 14, 2018 08:37 PM (8dJfY)

241 Was it here last week, somebody posted a link to a WWII training film explaining the actions/functions of small arms?

'Twas here.

How Small Arms Work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJzXG7MYX1c&t=126s

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 08:37 PM (bZ7mE)

242 Blake, that is so correct. When I introduced my niece and her husband to the wonders of a Rolling Block with 45-70 black powder cartridges, they were shooting at a steel target 200 yards away. Once they figured the range and started hitting the steel there was no stopping them. I had brought 80 rounds and could have brought 10 times more. They loved that 405 grain bullet making the target clang.
Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 07:40 PM (V+03K)
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That sounds like it was a ton of fun. Maybe some day I'll run into someone who'll let me shoot their 45-70.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 08:37 PM (WEBkv)

243 Just kidding, Ben Had. I don't have any NVG. Yet.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 08:37 PM (zLDYs)

244 Designed in 1945 by Kalashnikov and introduced to the Soviet Army in 1948

Sturmgewehr 44: Yeah, very original
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 14, 2018 07:29 PM (SiINZ)


Yeah, the Ruskies knew all about the StG44 since they were looking down the wrong end of the barrel of them. I do believe that the Kalishnikov took quite a few design features of the StG44 for his AK-47. Set those two firearms side-by-side and the heritage of the AK-47 becomes very apparent.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 14, 2018 08:38 PM (5Yee7)

245 Okay, I have decided to buy a pistol. Never owned a gun, but have shot (non-combat) marksman level with M-16 many years ago, and shot trap/skeet with various club-issue 12 ga., again years ago. So my level of expertise is the exalted KWEGTOG - Knows Which End Goes Toward Other Guy.

Dont intend to carry (unless SHTF). After gunshop-level training will shoot maybe 1-2 times / month. Piece will live in gun safe due to grandkids. Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)

246 Looks like the SJW version of the moon landing tanked at the box office.

Good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:43 PM (pUDQf)

247 I had left my EDC in the truck when I went into the store. I know better but I thought it was always a safe area. Stunad!

LEO showed up in force and deescalated after a bit of head cracking it but the moral of the story is, any place has to potential to go red.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 08:28 PM (9rIkM)
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My wife used to raise an eyebrow at the places I carried, until the church shootings took place.

Anyway, my philosophy is this: One cannot pick and choose as to when one will run into trouble.

Plus, how is this for a hypothetical: One is in court, defending oneself because the gun had to be used in self-defense, and, it turns out, the prosecution finds out one hasn't been diligent about carrying.

The prosecution will then paint you, the defendant, as "looking for trouble, because you don't carry all the time."

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 08:44 PM (WEBkv)

248 Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)
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Can't go wrong with a lightly used Sig Sauer.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:44 PM (MVjcR)

249 Hope I didn't give you that impression. The one pictured above is pretty accurate at the distances you mention.
Posted by: Weasel
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No, that little rant wasn't directed at anyone in particular. It's just one of my pet peeves because it gives people new to guns the wrong impression of what I consider one of the best rifles ever made. Of course there's junk out there, just like there are some crappy AR's.

Posted by: Guzalot at October 14, 2018 08:45 PM (schB/)

250 Went to the range this week with my wife and she didn't shoot me. She was mad I only brought 160 rounds. "Don't you have any MORE????"

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 14, 2018 08:45 PM (2BPRE)

251 250 Went to the range this week with my wife and she didn't shoot me. She was mad I only brought 160 rounds. "Don't you have any MORE????"

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 14, 2018 08:45 PM (2BPRE)
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Keeper!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:46 PM (MVjcR)

252 Dont intend to carry (unless SHTF). After gunshop-level training will shoot maybe 1-2 times / month. Piece will live in gun safe due to grandkids. Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)

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Go to your local gun store with a range and rental guns. Tell them just what you said here, and rent some guns to try out and see what feels good to you. You shouldn't have any trouble with your budget finding a good one for you.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 08:46 PM (I16G8)

253 Dont intend to carry (unless SHTF). After gunshop-level training will shoot maybe 1-2 times / month. Piece will live in gun safe due to grandkids. Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)

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Glock in 9mm.

Other people will give you an idea as to model.

Glocks tend to just run, regardless of maintenance level.

I say this as a 1911 guy.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 08:46 PM (WEBkv)

254 Okay, I have decided to buy a pistol.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)


Go to a gun shop, see what you like the look of. Then ask to hold one. Have them demonstrate the controls. Then try another. Don't look at or think about price or caliber until you find one that feels natural. After that, we can go from there.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:47 PM (y87Qq)

255 250 Went to the range this week with my wife and she didn't shoot me. She was mad I only brought 160 rounds. "Don't you have any MORE????"

Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 14, 2018 08:45 PM (2BPRE)
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You made the sammiches when you got home, right?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 08:47 PM (WEBkv)

256 Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at

Huge range of options out there. I would go to a reputable gun dealer, find a nice used smith or sig in 9mm. Either would make a great first gun.

I avoid Glocks for first time handgun owners because of their safety feature being on the trigger. I'd get an ambi safety on a 6" 9mm.

I'm a big fan of beretta too but they can be heavy for first timers.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:48 PM (pUDQf)

257 Ray Van Dune @ 245--Moron help?Sure. I like Rugers, Colts, HK's, SIG's, S n' W's, Berettas, CZ's, and some Taurus's, and maybe a KelTec if it's a .22 mag. Hope that helped you out.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 08:49 PM (zLDYs)

258 I shot a few AK-47s while I was in Baghdad (2005-2007). Never had any of them jam on me, and I could pretty much wipe out the center of an A4 sized sheet of paper (8.5x11 equivalent, for those who have not ventured into the metric world) at fifteen yards. Pretty decent machine, regardless of its origin. I do prefer an AR-15, just to be patriotic, and a bit more accurate.

Posted by: TXNick77 at October 14, 2018 08:50 PM (38Nd0)

259 257 Ray Van Dune @ 245--Moron help?Sure. I like Rugers, Colts, HK's, SIG's, S n' W's, Berettas, CZ's, and some Taurus's, and maybe a KelTec if it's a .22 mag. Hope that helped you out.
Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 08:49 PM (zLDYs)


True moron gun owner answer. Lol

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:50 PM (pUDQf)

260 248 Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)
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We had a Gun Thread a few weeks ago on this very topic with lots of great advice in the comments. You might go back and look for that if you have time.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:51 PM (MVjcR)

261 We had a Gun Thread a few weeks ago on this very topic with lots of great advice in the comments. You might go back and look for that if you have time.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:51 PM (MVjcR)


http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=377249

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)

262 It's great to see some new nics here participating. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:52 PM (MVjcR)

263 245 Okay, I have decided to buy a pistol.
>
Can any morons help?


Well, that doesn't narrow things down very much. You might visit ranges that have rentals so you can try a variety of types/calibers/sizes/etc. If you are willing to divulge a general geographic location, you may find felllow Morons willing to meet you and let you try out their guns for the cost of ammo. One thing I have noticed about gun hobbyists is that they are usually not selfish with their toys.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (cTajt)

264 I've decided my next build will be a Remington 700.

Anyone customize one of those yet??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (pUDQf)

265 Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)
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Thanks hogmartin!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

266 Lurker touched on it a lot of posts ago. The AK/AKM and its reputation for reliability is well over egged. Like any mechanical device its suffers as it wears and a lot depends on initial build quality. The bullshit "mud" comparison test between AK and AR as a means of reliability gauging is a joke. In most cases a closed up AR with a mag in place is less likely to have a mud/debris stoppage than a AK will have a failure for the hammer to go forward when full of mud. Reliability is more than the joke mud tests you see on Youtube. Having said that, I had about 7 AR rifles have various stoppages to out-rite
failures, out of about 30 shooters on the range shoot I ran yesterday. 90% was lack of lube the rest, crap magazines or bloody safety chamber flags breaking off and sticking in the chamber causing a nice failure to feed or worse case a barrel obstruction and the drama that that can cause. I have banned chamber flags on my range due to the problems they cause. The weapon is safe if the working parts are locked to the rear and the mag is out after inspection of chamber.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (bgJ0E)

267 245 Okay, I have decided to buy a pistol. Never owned a gun, but have shot (non-combat) marksman level with M-16 many years ago, and shot trap/skeet with various club-issue 12 ga., again years ago. So my level of expertise is the exalted KWEGTOG - Knows Which End Goes Toward Other Guy.

Dont intend to carry (unless SHTF). After gunshop-level training will shoot maybe 1-2 times / month. Piece will live in gun safe due to grandkids. Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?

Hit a range that has a good selection of rental guns. Try several out. Guns are very much like shoes: you have to see if they fit you and if you like them before you buy.

Posted by: Catch Thirty Thr33 at October 14, 2018 08:54 PM (XZgzl)

268 264 I've decided my next build will be a Remington 700.

Anyone customize one of those yet??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (pUDQf)
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Yeah. A little bit!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:54 PM (MVjcR)

269 Thanks hogmartin!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)


No, Weasel, thank you.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

270
I am going to offer an armadillo hunt along with the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (tEVlJ)



I am told that a six pack of Lone Star beer is the best bait for bringing them in.

They tell me you can get big'uns that way.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 08:55 PM (mUa7G)

271 Dont intend to carry (unless SHTF). After gunshop-level training will shoot maybe 1-2 times / month. Piece will live in gun safe due to grandkids. Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)

There is a buttload of handguns that fit your criteria. If you're looking at semi-autos, Glock, Ruger, S&W M&P, Walther and Springfield all have pistols in that price range.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 08:56 PM (NWiLs)

272 I have banned chamber flags on my range due to the problems they cause. The weapon is safe if the working parts are locked to the rear and the mag is out after inspection of chamber.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (bgJ0E)


What do you use for AK-patterns that don't lock open?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:57 PM (y87Qq)

273 264 I've decided my next build will be a Remington 700.

Anyone customize one of those yet??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (pUDQf)

Yep, made a mean long range precision .338LM out of one. The only Remington part left is the bolt shroud and the receiver body.
Also Kalashnikov was a cheat and a plagarist who took credit for other peoples effort the prick. Fuck him.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 08:57 PM (bgJ0E)

274 264 I've decided my next build will be a Remington 700.

Anyone customize one of those yet??


Don't have one myself but it's kind of like the Chevy small block of bolt guns.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 08:57 PM (cTajt)

275 And of course, Glocks. Hard to go wrong with any Glock. But they are hard to quit.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 08:58 PM (zLDYs)

276 248 Can any morons help?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)
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Can't go wrong with a lightly used Sig Sauer.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:44 PM (MVjcR)

You can often find those as law enforcement trade-ins for a reasonable price.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 08:58 PM (NWiLs)

277 Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.

Can any morons help?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)

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A Ruger P95 could probably be had for $200 or less. They're ugly and heavy but reliable as heck and very accurate for social work. They also have a de-cocker which is sort of nice safety-wise for non-enthusiasts, too.

The P95 is 9mm and there's a P90 in .45 (iirc), but I have no experience with the P90. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if I found it, though. I've got other fancier and more expensive stuff, but my P95 is probably my cheapest, ugliest, heaviest, and most favoritist gun.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 14, 2018 08:58 PM (9dTkj)

278 Looking real hard at adding a Springfield Saint pistol to the collection for a truck gun. Has anybody used one? Like it?

Posted by: ThAt Deplorable SOB Van Owen at October 14, 2018 08:59 PM (lApJ5)

279 Has Remington switched triggers ever since the x mark fiasco?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:00 PM (pUDQf)

280 269 Thanks hogmartin!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

No, Weasel, thank you.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

Jesus. Get a room.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:01 PM (NWiLs)

281 You can often find those as law enforcement trade-ins for a reasonable price.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 08:58 PM (NWiLs)


The best ones are the P226s with the MADE IN W GERMANY stamps. I don't know if they're mechanically any better than the post-unification ones, but that's just a neat stamp to have.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:01 PM (y87Qq)

282 Yep, made a mean long range precision .338LM out of one. The only Remington part left is the bolt shroud and the receiver body.
Also Kalashnikov was a cheat and a plagarist who took credit for other peoples effort the prick. Fuck him.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 08:57 PM (bgJ0E)

What barrel did you go with?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:02 PM (pUDQf)

283 255 You made the sammiches when you got home, right?

And if you have any sense at all, you served them in humble silence with a knapkin over your forearm, you lucky bastard.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:04 PM (oSoNz)

284 242 ... "That sounds like it was a ton of fun. Maybe some day I'll run into someone who'll let me shoot their 45-70."

Blake, I hope you get the chance. Both my rifles are single shots but modern not antiques and are rated for modern ammo. The 45-70 is a very versatile cartridge and is ideal for hand loaders. The history of the ammo and the old rifles adds to the fun.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:05 PM (V+03K)

285 280 269 Thanks hogmartin!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

No, Weasel, thank you.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

Jesus. Get a room.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:01 PM (NWiLs)
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Ha!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:05 PM (Qf//Q)

286 272 I have banned chamber flags on my range due to the problems they cause. The weapon is safe if the working parts are locked to the rear and the mag is out after inspection of chamber.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (bgJ0E)

What do you use for AK-patterns that don't lock open?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:57 PM (y87Qq)

"For inspection, parallel arms. Clear, ease springs."

If the rifle has been cleared of rounds it is clear. Rounds do not leap into the chamber and lock in by themselves, especially if there is no magazine present.
Assume everyone is dangerous until you have checked yourself of course but our range procedure is safe.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 09:05 PM (bgJ0E)

287 As always, when someone has no experience, like zilch, nothing, and want to buy a handgun for protection, I recommend training and a double action .38 revolver. You can always work from there.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 14, 2018 09:05 PM (xzqr4)

288
What barrel did you go with?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:02 PM (pUDQf)
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Depending on the application, take a look at Brux or Bartlein

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:06 PM (Qf//Q)

289 What barrel did you go with?

Its more of a car axle. Stainless by Eagle Arms here in NZ.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at October 14, 2018 09:06 PM (bgJ0E)

290 I lost my virginity to a 9mm Smith single stack with comp sights.

You always remember your first.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:07 PM (pUDQf)

291 269 Thanks hogmartin!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

No, Weasel, thank you.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

Jesus. Get a room.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:01 PM (NWiLs)

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Thought Jesus stuck to mangers, mostly...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 14, 2018 09:08 PM (+F0Wk)

292 I lost my virginity to a 9mm Smith single stack with comp sights.

You always remember your first.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:07 PM (pUDQf)


Rohm RG-12 with custom electrical-tape grips in the back seat of a 1986 Grand Marquis.

*gets misty-eyed*

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:09 PM (y87Qq)

293 Can we at least drag this thing over 300?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:09 PM (Qf//Q)

294 Thought Jesus stuck to mangers, mostly...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 14, 2018 09:08 PM (+F0Wk)

Foxes have their holes and birds their nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:11 PM (NWiLs)

295

Rohm RG-12 with custom electrical-tape grips in the back seat of a 1986 Grand Marquis.

*gets misty-eyed*
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:09 PM (y87Qq

Damn. Lost it to a German wench. Nice!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:11 PM (pUDQf)

296 293 Can we at least drag this thing over 300?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:09 PM


We can try

Posted by: Chuck C at October 14, 2018 09:11 PM (YTxkQ)

297 Yeah, the one I lost in that canoe accident was an AKM - a Mahdi to be exact (Egyptian production).
Interesting to read the thoughts on it.

Posted by: GWB at October 14, 2018 09:12 PM (CVc6J)

298 Oh heck yes, Weasel, we can - and thanks again for a wonderful gub thread.


NZFrank - what sort of range - recreational? How much of that *is* there down there? Ownership must be quite limited.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)

299
We can try
Posted by: Chuck C at October 14, 2018 09:11 PM (YTxkQ)
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Just a few more comments. C'mon guys! If I get 300 comments then the Monday conference call withCBD won't be so bad!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:13 PM (Qf//Q)

300 293 Can we at least drag this thing over 300?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:09 PM


On three ... one ... two ... three

Posted by: Chuck C at October 14, 2018 09:13 PM (YTxkQ)

301 I'm a giver. What can I say.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:13 PM (NWiLs)

302 As you wish, Weasel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:13 PM (hyuyC)

303 Who else wants to name their first? So far, a smith and a German wench.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (pUDQf)

304 Just heard a gunshot. Close, too. No shit.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (Qf//Q)

305 Can we at least drag this thing over 300?

Isosceles stance is for sissies! Real men use a Weaver stance! Seven shots enough for anybody! Scout Rifle!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (cTajt)

306 Anyone see the 60 Minutes intereview with PDT? It sounded like he was prosecuted by the PR head of the DNC. Leslie Stahl was bias on steroids (no surprise, but still stunning to see).

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (RLiOt)

307 Anyone lose their virginity to a Luger?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:15 PM (pUDQf)

308 Yes! 300! No demerits this week!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:15 PM (Qf//Q)

309 DQf)

304 Just heard a gunshot. Close, too. No shit.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (Qf//Q

Lock and load brother.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:15 PM (pUDQf)

310 Weasel,

Is there some thread count "measuring" going on between the COBs? Is there a prize?

And here I thought you only bitched to each other about the deductibles in your dental plan. Huh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:16 PM (hyuyC)

311 Re 60 Minutes, see @175

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 09:16 PM (1UZdv)

312 M (Qf//Q

Lock and load brother.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:15 PM (pUDQf)
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No kidding! No sirens, though. Strange. There is a large apartment complex down the road and it came from that direction.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:17 PM (Qf//Q)

313 I'm trying to run the battery down on my new phone. So I'm happy to blather on.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:17 PM (pUDQf)

314 304 Just heard a gunshot. Close, too. No shit.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:14 PM (Qf//Q)

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WA? Turn out the lights, gun up!


Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:17 PM (WEBkv)

315 310 Weasel,

Is there some thread count "measuring" going on between the COBs? Is there a prize?

And here I thought you only bitched to each other about the deductibles in your dental plan. Huh.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:16 PM (hyuyC)
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Nah. I'm just goofing on CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:18 PM (Qf//Q)

316 I think the first gun I ever shot was some sort of .22 pistol owned by a friend. the Very first gun I owned was a .50 percussion CVA carbine I built from a kit.

However, I tend to forget about those, because the first gun that I was ever really attached to was a .50 caliber flintlock that I built from a lock kit, a barrel, and a chunk of maple. That was the gun I wanted and had been working towards since I was about 14. That is my real first gun.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 09:18 PM (bZ7mE)

317 Most of the old 70s/80s ex-military/police Sigs (P225?) I remember seeing for really cheap a decade or more ago are probably in safes now, but:

If you find an ex-police or military weapon make sure it doesn't have the magazine release at the heel of the grip unless it's really what you want. They can be hard to find magazines for and expensive when you finally do.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 14, 2018 09:18 PM (9dTkj)

318 However, I tend to forget about those, because the first gun that I was ever really attached to was a .50 caliber flintlock that I built from a lock kit, a barrel, and a chunk of maple. That was the gun I wanted and had been working towards since I was about 14. That is my real first gun.
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 09:18 PM (bZ7mE)

Wow. Freaking elephant cartridge for a first gun.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (pUDQf)

319 Weasel, you're not at Weasel Acres, right? So this is in some inhabited part of the greater Beltway Swamp-plex?


Heard some handgun shots, at a distance (pop pop is quite easy to recognize, on a quiet night) one Saturday night, last month I think. Several, in a few spurts, over 5 minutes. Then, same night, middle of, about 3AMish, when up to answer nature's call, heard a rifle shot (definitely), and much closer.


WTF? Not a lot of gun-play in my area. As in none. But that's the second time the last few years I've heard gunshots at night. Previous time was middle of night, definitely rifle, not *that* far away, loud enough to wake me up, I think, though not sure about that.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)

320 My first? Ithaca Model 37 back in the 60's. It was Grampa's. I had no idea what I had ahold of.

I miss her. Snif.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (9rIkM)

321 WA? Turn out the lights, gun up!


Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:17 PM (WEBkv)
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Nope. I'm at home in NoVA. I hear shots all the time at the farm - no worries there.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (Qf//Q)

322 Y'all are having an educational effect on me. I have never fired a gun, but I was sunbathing in my backyard one day and was watching a squirrel, wondering if I could hit it if I had a gun. I realized that I was instinctively checking what was beyond the squirrel to determine if it was a safe shot.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:21 PM (4HMW8)

323 Wow. Freaking elephant cartridge for a first gun.

Cartridges are for muskets. For hunting rifles a horn and pouch works better.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 09:21 PM (bZ7mE)

324 Nope. I'm at home in NoVA. I hear shots all the time at the farm - no worries there.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (Qf//Q)


https://stoatnet.org/dunno.mp4

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:22 PM (y87Qq)

325 Posted by: rhomboid at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
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Yep. I'm home. If that wasn't a gunshot, it sure as hell sounded like one. Someone let go of 5 or 6 rounds on New Years Eve from down there.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:23 PM (Qf//Q)

326 They bring a pistol, you bring a match-grade sniper rifle with precision ammo, a time-tested ballistic table, and great sights.

Advantage: Weasel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (hyuyC)

327 Greetings:

Mr. Stoner's "buffer group" for the win.

I've fired the M-16 (with its regular front end and with a CAR-15 front end ) and a number of different AK-47s. I was a fan of the 3-shot burst with Mr. Stoner's equipment and it wasn't really feasible with the AK.

My big M-16 gripe (68-70) was the Army's fixation on the 20-round magazine. We actually had 30-rounders (contraband, no less) smuggled in from the States and borrowed from the Green Beanies.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (evgyj)

328 Will MAYBE try to teach Old Lady to shoot but unlikely, so no great
weight on that please. Cost has to be in 3 figures and start with 6 or
less, or above mentioned OL will have shit-fit.



Can any morons help?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 08:42 PM (oSoNz)
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do her and your marriage a favor, and let someone else teach her.

first suggested step is to get her to attend a "Women on Target" class by the NRA at a local range.

they start with the basics, in a class room, then move to the firing line after lunch.

by women, for women, so no stress, no/low testosterone, and it's a solid block of instruction.

then, shell out for a certified trainer at a local range for a some classes. if your experience is anything like mine, you'll have a wife that is not only as good, or better with the firearms, but one who *wants* to go see what's for sale at the toy store, go to the range, hunting, and even get into reloading.

it's a great kind of monster to create, IMHO.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (kRSP9)

329 So, guys didn't get my bed and stuff here today but all my personal stuff for work was here. Can't get the stereo to work or the TV. Just got wifi hooked up a bit ago. Going to freeze tonight and I get to sleep on the floor.

I would really like to watch Levin tonite on Fox. Anyone know how to stream live for more that 15 mins?

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (Hc2xj)

330 Greetings:

I forgot to mention that it's not the wand, it's the magician.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 14, 2018 09:25 PM (evgyj)

331 There's a youtube video (search for hrfunk) where he tries to qualify for a LEO handgun test with a modern Remington 1858 cap and ball revolver. It's shot at distances of 4 feet out to 50 feet, sometimes with the weak hand. I'm wasn't surprised that he qualified easily but folks who dismiss the old guns might not expect it.

The one varience was for the tactical reload. The test is designed for semi auto or double action revolvers with speed loaders. He used the historic approach: pull a second revolver. Think Josey Wales.

Kinda a fun video.

I was rather shocked at how close the distances were.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:25 PM (V+03K)

332 Nope. I'm at home in NoVA. I hear shots all the time at the farm - no worries there.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:19 PM (Qf//Q)
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Okay, I see why a shot might raise the old warning flag!

Anyway, my daughter and her husband live in Chesapeake. I hope to get out that way sometime in the next couple of years.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:25 PM (WEBkv)

333 326 They bring a pistol, you bring a match-grade sniper rifle with precision ammo, a time-tested ballistic table, and great sights.

Advantage: Weasel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (hyuyC)
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Never, ever fight fair! How you doin', salty?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (Qf//Q)

334 253 Glocks tend to just run, regardless of maintenance level. I say this as a 1911 guy.

Okayyyy ... I have a secret schueztenboner for a 1911, so please keep talking. But that *6* starting number, hes dead, Jim. Right?!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (oSoNz)

335 I would really like to watch Levin tonite on Fox. Anyone know how to stream live for more that 15 mins?
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:24 PM (Hc2xj)

Some YouTube channels stream it live with a pip to make you watch ads. But at least it's streamed.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (pUDQf)

336 First firearm I ever shot was a Stevens .22 bolt action.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

337 322 Y'all are having an educational effect on me. I have never fired a gun, but I was sunbathing in my backyard one day and was watching a squirrel, wondering if I could hit it if I had a gun. I realized that I was instinctively checking what was beyond the squirrel to determine if it was a safe shot.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:21 PM (4HMW
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Excellent!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:27 PM (WEBkv)

338 But that *6* starting number, hes dead, Jim. Right?!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (oSoNz)

Uh. Yeah.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:28 PM (pUDQf)

339 First firearm I ever shot was a Stevens .22 bolt action.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (NWiLs)


Marlin 1894C.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 14, 2018 09:28 PM (fiGNd)

340 Assault weapons are bad, mmmkay?

The bad kind of morons explain why assault weapons are bad.

https://youtu.be/aC_vSaNMrG0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 14, 2018 09:28 PM (+y/Ru)

341 Thanks Alabama. I will try to find. Out of energy after this weekend.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:29 PM (Hc2xj)

342 337 322 Y'all are having an educational effect on me. I have never fired a gun, but I was sunbathing in my backyard one day and was watching a squirrel, wondering if I could hit it if I had a gun. I realized that I was instinctively checking what was beyond the squirrel to determine if it was a safe shot.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:21 PM (4HMW
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Be happy to take you shooting if you're anywhere close to Northern or Central Virginia!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:29 PM (Qf//Q)

343 first gun i ever fired was the first one i ever owned, and still have.

not counting stuff at the gallery @ Disneyland or the carnival arcades...

Marlin Glenfield 22.

not sure why my parents bought it for me, unless they hoped i'd take it to high school and make the news.

that never occurred to me, even being the only white kid for four *very* long years.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:29 PM (kRSP9)

344 39 Went to the range with another moron on Saturday. I love you guys!!!!!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 07:26 PM (PkVlr)

Glad you had fun!

If more Seattle Area morons want to get together to shoot, I can help with guest passes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 14, 2018 09:30 PM (xJa6I)

345 Weasel

Just got the outdoor plants in. It's snowing and going into the 20's tonight.

Getting ready for the Texas trip.

I have some POS equipment, bought when I could not afford better. One sight is for an airsoft setup I got with what limited funds I had. I'll decide what to bring later.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:30 PM (hyuyC)

346 Alson, on topic: I'm a big fan of the AK74. I just with they had brass cased ammo available for it.

Most ranges here won't let me shoot steel cased stuff for fire hazard reasons, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 14, 2018 09:31 PM (xJa6I)

347 Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:30 PM (hyuyC)
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Looking forward to seeing you there!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:31 PM (Qf//Q)

348 334 253
Okayyyy ... I have a secret schueztenboner for a 1911, so please keep talking. But that *6* starting number, hes dead, Jim. Right?!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (oSoNz)


As long as you stay away from Colt, or high-end, custom 1911's, you should be able to get one, new, for well under $600. Look at Springfield Armory or Rock Island, for example.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 09:31 PM (bjCNA)

349 Never, ever fight fair! How you doin', salty?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (Qf//Q)

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if you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:32 PM (kRSP9)

350 First? Remington Fieldmaster, with .22 shorts down in the basement, into a cardboard box stuffed with newspapers.

Mom was upstairs freaking out. Dad was down there teaching me, at 6 y.o.

Many garden invasive ground hogs, rabbits and grey squirels fell to that rifle!

Posted by: dd at October 14, 2018 09:33 PM (V2W/Q)

351
I'm so sick of the "AK is inaccurate" myth. The truth is that the AK is "battle accurate" and perfectly capable of scoring aimed hits at 300 yards and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiTUvryG5U&t=38s

Posted by: Guzalot at October 14, 2018 08:30 PM (schB/)







The main problem with AK accuracy is that the sights really aren't as conducive to pinpoint use, with the short sight radius being the biggest drawback. The rifle itself is perfectly capable of excellent combat accuracy, within the ballistic limitations of the round itself.

The long sight radius with peep sight of the Valmet and Galil AK variants are one of the best improvements to the platform.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 09:34 PM (eXA4G)

352 Hola, all. I'm finally here, ready to get willowed again on the gun thread!

Posted by: Oedipus at October 14, 2018 09:34 PM (D+itC)

353 @343 "Marlin Glenfield"

Ha, that was my first gun too,I got as a Christmas present when I was 8

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 14, 2018 09:34 PM (yuVxc)

354 I want Cabot Meteorite 1911s.

Anyone want to lend me 4.5 million?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:35 PM (pUDQf)

355 Which reminds me, I need to seat a bunch of bullets and pack my rifle for the trip to Texas!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:35 PM (Qf//Q)

356 352 Hola, all. I'm finally here, ready to get willowed again on the gun thread!
Posted by: Oedipus at October 14, 2018 09:34 PM (D+itC)
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Howdy!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:36 PM (Qf//Q)

357 I am looking forward to meeting you as well. Too bad that card for Blue Ridge Arsenal was zeroed out.

My wife will be staying home. She wants to rest up from her last vacation.

Also looking forward to meeting the estimable Ben Had and the rest of the redoubtable AoSHQ luminaries.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:37 PM (hyuyC)

358 Okayyyy ... I have a secret schueztenboner for a 1911, so please keep talking. But that *6* starting number, hes dead, Jim. Right?!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (oSoNz)
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Here, let me make things even worse: My wife has small hands and is slight of frame and she prefers my 1911 over any other handgun she's tried, and she's tried several. Same thing with the daughter of my niece and nephew. Much preferred the 1911,

Rock Island makes an okay 1911. Buy the tactical, though, because hammer bite on the GI model isn't fun.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:37 PM (WEBkv)

359 357 I am looking forward to meeting you as well. Too bad that card for Blue Ridge Arsenal was zeroed out.

My wife will be staying home. She wants to rest up from her last vacation.

Also looking forward to meeting the estimable Ben Had and the rest of the redoubtable AoSHQ luminaries.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:37 PM (hyuyC)
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You will be hard pressed to not have a great time. Ben Had is the best!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:38 PM (Qf//Q)

360 Weasel,

I am sure I can get over my shyness and have a great time.

And creeper promised to step on my toes if there is any dancing in the horse barns.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC)

361 For what it is worth, I paid about $500 for my slightly-used Springfield GI (discontinued, alas) on Gunbroker.

Never had a problem with hammer bite with the mil-spec hammer and grip safety.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 09:40 PM (bZ7mE)

362
First firearm I ever shot was a Stevens .22 bolt action.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

Marlin 1894C.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 14, 2018 09:28 PM (fiGNd)








The Pig, for me.

On a Tiger Cruise with my dad when he returned from a WestPac deployment. The Marines had an M60 on a tripod letting us dependents shoot off the fantail of the USS Coral Sea.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 09:41 PM (eXA4G)

363 I'll be on my best behavior around creeper. She said she buried 2 of her 3 husbands. I do not know what they did to provoke her. Best not to piss her off.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:42 PM (hyuyC)

364 First gun I fired was at Boy Scout camp circa 1961. It was some 22lr single shot bolt rifle. No idea what make or model it was.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:42 PM (V+03K)

365 Wow, this will be the third TxMoMe!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:42 PM (kufk0)

366 360 Weasel,

I am sure I can get over my shyness and have a great time.

And creeper promised to step on my toes if there is any dancing in the horse barns.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC)
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Ben Had starts handing out lampshades promptly at 9pm.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (Qf//Q)

367 First gun

Heckler and Koch Model 91 assault rifle, loaned to me for plinking by a 101st AB Vietnam vet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (hyuyC)

368 365 Wow, this will be the third TxMoMe!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:42 PM (kufk0)
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Hey there!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

369 Anyone want to lend me 4.5 million?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:35 PM (pUDQf)

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i'll write you a check, okay?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (kRSP9)

370 Y'all are having an educational effect on me. I have never fired a gun, but I was sunbathing in my backyard one day and was watching a squirrel, wondering if I could hit it if I had a gun. I realized that I was instinctively checking what was beyond the squirrel to determine if it was a safe shot.
Posted by: Emmie


I have the strangest bone right now...

Posted by: Oedipus at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (D+itC)

371 "Ben Had starts handing out lampshades promptly at 9pm."

Congo Line!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (hyuyC)

372 Hey Weasel! We made it out of the wilds...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (kufk0)

373 I wonder if this thread has the potential to hit 400?

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (tKF1g)

374 want to lend me 4.5 million?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at O




for what? do yo have collateral?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (MTjB1)

375 Most ranges here won't let me shoot steel cased stuff for fire hazard reasons, I think.

They rationalize it as a safety issue but it's mostly because they collect and resell the used brass to commercial reloaders and steel cases aren't reloadable.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (cTajt)

376 Have you seen those bad boys? Made from a real meteorite. Me likey.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (pUDQf)

377
Here, let me make things even worse: My wife has small hands and is slight of frame and she prefers my 1911 over any other handgun she's tried, and she's tried several. Same thing with the daughter of my niece and nephew. Much preferred the 1911,

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:37 PM (WEBkv)





A common occurrence. The narrow grip on such a large pistol is deceptively comfortable for folks with small hands.

One more indicator of the genius of John Moses Browning (PBUH).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (eXA4G)

378 >>> >>> 209 I am going to offer an armadillo hunt along with the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 08:23 PM (tEVlJ)

Gaaahh! Late as usual... is this at your place or somewhere else? Are the little creeps making pests of themselves? Will a .22 work? I'm guessing flamethrowers are right out.


*waves at lin-duh and Weasel*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (0ReGO)

379 Be happy to take you shooting if you're anywhere close to Northern or Central Virginia!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:29 PM (Qf//Q)


Weasel, I would be thrilled to meet you and accept your kind invitation if the opportunity ever materializes. Thank you!

You are only about 1,500 miles away!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (4HMW8)

380 372 Hey Weasel! We made it out of the wilds...
Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (kufk0)
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I was wondering about that -want to hear all about it this weekend!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (MVjcR)

381 for what? do yo have collateral?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (MTjB1)

I will when you lend me the money to buy the 1911s.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (pUDQf)

382 Howdy, Helena!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:46 PM (4HMW8)

383 Heckler and Koch Model 91 assault rifle, loaned to me for plinking by a 101st AB Vietnam vet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:43 PM (hyuyC)

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full auto or burst capable?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:46 PM (kRSP9)

384 Hey, Helena!!

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:46 PM (kufk0)

385 379 Be happy to take you shooting if you're anywhere close to Northern or Central Virginia!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:29 PM (Qf//Q)

Weasel, I would be thrilled to meet you and accept your kind invitation if the opportunity ever materializes. Thank you!

You are only about 1,500 miles away!
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (4HMW
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Well keep it in mind. Standing invitation. And I'm only about half as creepy as I sound here.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:46 PM (MVjcR)

386 We can get you to 400 weasel...maybe...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:47 PM (kufk0)

387 Mark!!!!
Had an awesome time!
Thank you so much!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 09:47 PM (PkVlr)

388 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 09:45 PM (0ReGO)
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Howdy Helena!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:47 PM (MVjcR)

389 redc1c4

Yes. He either got a good deal somewhere, or may have "modified" it. A very nice, accurate weapon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (hyuyC)

390 400! 400!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (MVjcR)

391 Does anyone have a match timer they can bring to the Mo Meet?

We'll have more fun if there's a match timer at hand.

*grins*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (QzJWU)

392 Weasel isn't creepy like CPL more like the clown from IT!

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (kufk0)

393 Less than 10 to go!

Posted by: Surfperch at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (tKF1g)

394 Emmie, I will go with you for back up.

Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (Hc2xj)

395 I think we can make 400.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (4HMW8)

396 Does anyone have a match timer they can bring to the Mo Meet?
Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 09:48 PM (QzJWU)


There are match timer smartphone apps, but I've never used one. I wonder if they're any good?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (y87Qq)

397 Anyone seen Left Coast Dawg? The huskies lost to the fucks and I worry he may be a bit disheveled.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (PkVlr)

398 Is Steck making it again this year?

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (kufk0)

399 394 Emmie, I will go with you for back up.
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (Hc2xj)


Fun, Infidel! Road trip!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (4HMW8)

400 389 and counting?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (WEBkv)

401 Glocks have huge share with Law Enforcement who like low maintenance. You've got to love your gun to have any other kind of hand gun.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (1UZdv)

402 395 I think we can make 400.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (4HMW
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We can if we all try really, really hard!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (MVjcR)

403 Opinion please- Christmas present ... colt python, 6 inch barrel?

Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (Z48ZB)

404 HRH tried my 1911 when we first went shooting, but didn't care for it.

bought herself a Glock (pro tip: get a subscription to Shotgun News, or whatever they are calling it these days... most women LOVE to shop) decided she didn't like it that much, so got an MnP in 45 ACP, then decided 1911's were great after all, so she's purchased several of her own... leaving me mine.

po' me.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (kRSP9)

405 I'll contribute with a totally worthless comment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (I16G8)

406 Jim
I'll take you up on your offer of handgun training.

I fired right-handed while in the service and later.

Just starting to shoot left-handed. Left eye dominate, and left-handed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (hyuyC)

407 colt python, 6 inch barrel?

Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (Z48ZB)

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yes please.

me love you long time if you do!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (kRSP9)

408 402 395 I think we can make 400.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (4HMW
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We can if we all try really, really hard!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (MVjcR)


Christmas is saved!

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (y87Qq)

409 There are match timer smartphone apps, but I've never used one. I wonder if they're any good?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (y87Qq)

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Short answer: They tend to be meh.

And, cool I got 400 but, well...

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (WEBkv)

410 Does anyone have a match timer they can bring to the Mo Meet?

I haven't used one so can't make a recommendation, but there are shot timer apps for phones.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (cTajt)

411 Over 400 -- well done, Horde!

Back to homework for me.

See ya later!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (4HMW8)

412 402 395 I think we can make 400.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (4HMW
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We can if we all try really, really hard!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (MVjcR)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT WAS COMMENT 402.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 14, 2018 09:51 PM (tKF1g)

413 ...There are match timer smartphone apps, but I've never used one. I wonder if they're any good?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (y87Qq)



Good, but not as good as the real thing. PACT timers, ftw!

Hoping one shows up there. Got some drills/competition sets in mind... and the good news? It'll have the wheelguns and semis on equal footing in the stage.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 09:52 PM (QzJWU)

414 403 Opinion please- Christmas present ... colt python, 6 inch barrel?
Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (Z48ZB)

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Are you offering? Because, yes please!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 09:52 PM (WEBkv)

415 lin-duh, Steck is a yes.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 09:52 PM (tEVlJ)

416 Cool Ben Had!

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:53 PM (kufk0)

417 Schwoo! Over 400! I get to do the Gun Thread for another week!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:53 PM (MVjcR)

418 Over 400 comments. Why do I feel that the applause brought Tinkerbell back to life. :-)

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:53 PM (V+03K)

419 Gotta get the kids ready for bed...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:53 PM (kufk0)

420 I was never able to bring myself to by Commie iron when it was extremely cheap back in the 80's. Now their contrived crudity is big money. Yeah guns are all over the place and you can almost find a Moison under every slippery rock and mint condition StG44's with ammo turned up in Syria this year.

Thank you C.J. Chivers on Stalin's mental illness. I agree with Chivers that something like the AK47 would have come out of the Soviet Union with or without the man Kalashnikov.

Posted by: 80's music fan at October 14, 2018 09:54 PM (tQkRb)

421
Most ranges here won't let me shoot steel cased stuff for fire hazard reasons, I think.

They rationalize it as a safety issue but it's mostly because they collect and resell the used brass to commercial reloaders and steel cases aren't reloadable.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 09:44 PM (cTajt)







On the other hand, steel-JACKETED rifle rounds definitely have the potential of causing fires in dry conditions. I've seen it happen. Virtually every outdoor range in SoCal is absolutely killer on magnet-checking your rifle ammo.

I used to pull the bullets from surplus Russkie 7.62x54r and replace them with commercial Prvi Partizan non-magnetic bullets so that I could actually shoot my M39 Finnish Mosin. Shot just fine, but it was only partly successful, as the PP bullets were boat-tailed and didn't have a crimp groove, so there wasn't as much bearing surface. I'd have to single-load rounds to keep the clunky Mosin action from dinking the rounds in the magazine.

I quit doing that when I got overeager once while loading, ended up with a couple of rounds rim-locked and while clearing the rifle ended up pulling the bullet and spilling powder all over the action. Ugh. I can be a dumbass sometimes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 09:55 PM (eXA4G)

422 Pistol-packin' poochie WeaselDog is on patrol.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (2NqXo)

423 416 Cool Ben Had!
Posted by: lin-duh at October 14, 2018 09:53 PM (kufk0)
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Y'all please forget most of everything I've ever said about WeaselWoman this weekend. Please.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (MVjcR)

424 Weasel, Thanks for another fun gun thread, A great topic to end the weekend.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (V+03K)

425 Dennis Quaid "man in cafe" line in esurance ad is funny

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 09:57 PM (PUmDY)

426 ...Opinion please- Christmas present ... colt python, 6 inch barrel?

Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (Z48ZB)




That's 'bout a $2,000 Christmas Present.

Though it's a piece of jewelry that shoots, it's not made to hold up under heavy .357 Magnum usage. Frame cracks right around the firing pin bushing, from absorbing the high-pressure recoil there. Cartridge head bears directly against the frame at that point.

Stick to .38 Special +P, or softer .357 loadings.

You looking at classic, High Polish Blue or Nickel, Satin Nickel, or one of the later Stainless variants?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. and if you see a 2" bbl. Python, buy it. Worth a larger small fortune.

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 09:58 PM (QzJWU)

427 422 Pistol-packin' poochie WeaselDog is on patrol.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (2NqXo)
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I'd have loved to see her reaction last week when some jackass ran their vehicle into my house.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:58 PM (MVjcR)

428
Opinion please- Christmas present ... colt python, 6 inch barrel?
Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (Z48ZB)






I didn't know you cared. My address is.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 09:59 PM (eXA4G)

429 424 Weasel, Thanks for another fun gun thread, A great topic to end the weekend.
Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (V+03K)
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You bet, JTB. My pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:59 PM (MVjcR)

430 Weasel, we will be on our best behavior so she doesn't think you hang around with a bunch of reprobates. The will also be a few people that are in the Education field as well.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 09:59 PM (tEVlJ)

431 430 Weasel, we will be on our best behavior so she doesn't think you hang around with a bunch of reprobates. The will also be a few people that are in the Education field as well.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 09:59 PM (tEVlJ)
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Thanks BH. Might be a quiet plane ride home!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:01 PM (MVjcR)

432
Weasel, we will be on our best behavior so she doesn't think you hang around with a bunch of reprobates.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 09:59 PM (tEVlJ)








Killjoy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 10:01 PM (eXA4G)

433 Weasel

Did USAA treat you right?

I knew a XO who had his car, on the pier, hit by a torpedo. Oops. USAA paid out.

But my USAA policy states they will not pay for riots, insurrections and nuclear explosions, even if accidental.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:02 PM (hyuyC)

434
Killjoy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 10:01 PM (eXA4G)
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Heh. Just teasing. She knows I'm a clown - we've been married 15 years!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:02 PM (MVjcR)

435 >>> 399 394 Emmie, I will go with you for back up.
Posted by: Infidel at October 14, 2018 09:49 PM (Hc2xj)

Fun, Infidel! Road trip!
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 09:50 PM (4HMW

Yes!! CO invasion of Weasel Acres!!

(seriously... he is actually *not* a type of weasel...)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (0ReGO)

436 ITC, Start up time has moved to 11:00 am

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (tEVlJ)

437 So, can we make it to 500 here?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (bjCNA)

438 Jim: is that a problem with ALL Pythons, or just a recent one?

asking for a friend...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:04 PM (kRSP9)

439 We aren't watching the NFL anymore. Of course the Broncos make it easy to boycott. Local FNM was doing the after game bs and I told dad that if someone had told me 10 years ago that the Buffs would be winning and the Broncos would be the PC losers I would have laughed.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 14, 2018 10:04 PM (cLj/v)

440 433 Weasel

Did USAA treat you right?

I knew a XO who had his car, on the pier, hit by a torpedo. Oops. USAA paid out.

But my USAA policy states they will not pay for riots, insurrections and nuclear explosions, even if accidental.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:02 PM (hyuyC)
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I'm sure they will. They have always done a great job with the couple of other claims I have had over the years.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:04 PM (Qf//Q)

441 437 So, can we make it to 500 here?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (bjCNA)
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It - it just cant be done.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:05 PM (MVjcR)

442 Yes!! CO invasion of Weasel Acres!!

(seriously... he is actually *not* a type of weasel...)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (0ReGO)


Even more fun! Should we let Mr. Bassman come along or leave him at home?

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 10:05 PM (4HMW8)

443 Late to the table. Whatever was said before, M-16/AR15 for the win. F the commies.

Posted by: RI Red at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (x6zMD)

444 So, can we make it to 500 here?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (bjCNA)

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only if the ONT never shows up...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (kRSP9)

445 I'd have loved to see her reaction last week when some jackass ran their vehicle into my house.
Posted by: Weasel
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A bus driver in Lafayette, IN forgot to set the parking brake before stepping out to take a smoke. The buss rolled down a short hill and ran into the front of a guy's house. Sitting beneath the window where bus hit the house, was the guy's stereo.

He brought the mangled remains into our shop for repair because the insurance company insisted on an estimate to repair.

When the equipment came into the shop, the technician recorded on the check-in paper under 'Complaint', "Struck by bus".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (++ggZ)

446 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)

447 438 Jim: is that a problem with ALL Pythons, or just a recent one?

asking for a friend...
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:04 PM (kRSP9)
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I'd cry.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (MVjcR)

448 422 Pistol-packin' poochie WeaselDog is on patrol.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (2NqXo)


I'm gonna make trouble for that ball of fur. I can haz his toyz.

Posted by: WeaselCat at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (8DvH0)

449 >>> 442 Yes!! CO invasion of Weasel Acres!!

(seriously... he is actually *not* a type of weasel...)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (0ReGO)

Even more fun! Should we let Mr. Bassman come along or leave him at home?
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 10:05 PM (4HMW


Oooh, tough choice.

He may not want to be in a car with a bunch of 'ettes...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (0ReGO)

450 But my USAA policy states they will not pay for riots, insurrections and nuclear explosions, even if accidental.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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"Acts of God"?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (++ggZ)

451 Yes!! CO invasion of Weasel Acres!!


Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (0ReGO)

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the Horde has conscientious objectors?

or is that carbon monoxide?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (kRSP9)

452 30-06 fired

45 70 scares me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (pUDQf)

453
Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)




50 BMG

The one that's fired in my direction.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (eXA4G)

454
446 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)
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.50AE and .50 BMG

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:09 PM (MVjcR)

455 441 437 So, can we make it to 500 here?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:03 PM (bjCNA)
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It - it just cant be done.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:05 PM (MVjcR)


Wanna bet?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:09 PM (bjCNA)

456 446 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)

Biggest handgun: .454 Casull. Biggest rifle: .50 BMG.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 10:09 PM (NWiLs)

457 ...Jim: is that a problem with ALL Pythons, or just a recent one?

asking for a friend...


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:04 PM (kRSP9)




All the Carbon Steel ones, for sure. And I'm not aware of the status of the Stainless variants, one way or another.

The Trooper Mk III & Mk IV are substantially beefier in that area of the recoil shield and bushing area.

Plus...Troopers don't give in to spring fatigue, being coil powered. Pythons are "V" type leaf mainspring....smooth harmonics, but can and do fatigue.

It MUST be remembered, that the Python's origin was not as a heavy duty combat gun, but from a target frame and lockwork.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 10:10 PM (QzJWU)

458 I've never fired it but the caliber that scares me is the .700 Nitro Express.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 10:10 PM (NWiLs)

459 George Gilder is very interesting.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 10:11 PM (PUmDY)

460 My favorite subject - the AK.

I have been evangelizing this point of view for over a decade on the nets, so let me give my two kopeks here and now. (I am at work so this will be brief and a hit and run.)

The AK was designed for revolution. It has a couple attributes that set it apart. First though, understand that all design is a tradeoff between competing goals. I am not saying that it is perfectly this, or perfectly that, but that these attributes weighed more heavily in this design than in other guns.

Those attributes. - cheap and easy to manufacture in volume, easy to use for untrained peasant troops, reliable under low maintenance conditions (peasant troops). The tradeoffs are accuracy, long life, and robustness--those are things you want when you place a high value on the person behind the gun.

Early versions, and prototypes had even more stampings than what was later produced and that is the give away. Stampings are great if you plan to make 100k units, but that means a factory, and in the commie East, that means the state. The gun was produced to hand out to peasants to revolt.

Machined parts can be distributed to many small factories outside of state control. This is nothing new, and look at the innovations of Harper's Ferry to see that these things were at play in the early days of the industrial revolution. Craft built guns empowered the people to defend themselves. Pioneer guns. Mass produced weapons are something else again.

It is no accident that there are so many companies making ARs but not AKs, that is inherent in the design.

The best part about this strategy is that you kill off all the Kulaks and land owners, and then take over governement, and now you have a factory so you ship the guns off to your neighbors so they too can join in on the slaughter.

It is also no accident that the AK is the gun our troops run into in every third world shithole around the world. That was the plan.

I fucking hate that gun. No, I don't hate the gun, but I hate the ignorance that makes people glorify it and the guy who the soviets say designed it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 14, 2018 10:11 PM (LWu6U)

461 Oooh, tough choice.

He may not want to be in a car with a bunch of 'ettes...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 10:08 PM (0ReGO)


Okay, ladies only it is!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 10:11 PM (4HMW8)

462 Two in a row? Yay, flu.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 14, 2018 10:11 PM (w7U7L)

463
Oh, thanks for the update on the starting time, BH. Much appreciated.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (eXA4G)

464 ONT.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (y87Qq)

465 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)

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445 Supermag for the pistol

460 Steyr for the rifle

50 BMG in the Army.

the one that scares me is the one someone is shooting at me, no matter *what* caliber it is, although the low order detonation of the errant 155 round near the rifle range i was on @ Club Bob is way up there in things that freaked me out.

as is the time someone walked into our armory with what looked like a WW2 pineapple grenade, corroded fuse body and all....

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (kRSP9)

466 But my USAA policy states they will not pay for ... nuclear explosions, even if accidental.
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That seems oddly specific

Posted by: Methos at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (CPS8G)

467 Mike Hammer

Covered, if you consider severe weather as an Act of God.

Being in Kansas, I asked the USAA underwriters some questions. So my deductible for my roof was half of other house all-perils related deductibles.

And 5 years later, my roof was destroyed by a bad hail storm. A good hail storm would have missed me. But no. USAA covered it, minus my deductible.

Smiting and turning into a pillar of salt may require a persuasive talk with an agent.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (hyuyC)

468 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.

Biggest caliber is probably 8mm Mauser. Kicked like a mule, left a bruise the size of my palm on my collarbone (steel buttplates on a t-shirt). Also, bulged a barrel.

Calibers don't scare me. Lightweight guns in large calibers with poorly designed stocks, on the other hand....

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (bZ7mE)

469 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)

Rifle: .50BMG
Handgun: .45ACP
Scared of: 500SampersandW

Posted by: Bert G at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (OMsf+)

470 334 253 Glocks tend to just run, regardless of maintenance level. I say this as a 1911 guy.

Okayyyy ... I have a secret schueztenboner for a 1911, so please keep talking. But that *6* starting number, hes dead, Jim. Right?!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 14, 2018 09:26 PM (oSoNz)


Nope. Not if you're willing to spend the time to search and are patient.

Both my 1911s were $650. Latest one I got in July.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (di1hb)

471 ------
Y'all please forget most of everything I've ever said about WeaselWoman this weekend. Please.
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 09:56 PM (MVjcR)
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All I've ever heard is "WW is awesome and I don't know why she puts up with me!"

...that'll be $20, please.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (WEBkv)

472 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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.45-70

Friend offered me a chance to fire his .500 S&W Mag. I turned him down.

I have another friend with a .38 Super 1911. For whatever reason, I always feel trepidation when firing it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, trapped in tax hell at October 14, 2018 10:14 PM (LJsYz)

473 Biggest rifle. .458 Win Mag, Parker-Hale Mauser action. Im-PRESSIVE.

Biggest handgun. .460 S&W Magnum. Im-fucking-PRESSIVE!

I would not pass up a good lever rifle in .460 S&W. Would prefer it over .500 S&W, in fact.

Very hot, fast, flat shooting (but still large and heavy) bullet.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 10:14 PM (QzJWU)

474
as is the time someone walked into our armory with what looked like a WW2 pineapple grenade, corroded fuse body and all....
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 10:12 PM (kRSP9

Ho ree shit, Batman. I hope he got the bomb squad called on him and a ride in a blueberry

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:14 PM (pUDQf)

475 465 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)

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Don't know the caliber but there's a video of a bunch of rag heads shooting some monster gun and hilarity ensuing.

Might scare me, though, considering I shoot military rifles with steel butt plates against my skinny bony white self, it might not.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (WEBkv)

476 Not counting muzzleloaders.

45-70 largest rifle caliber

45 colt largest handgun caliber but most powerful was a 300 grain 44 magnum load fired from a Ruger Super Blackhawk.

Haven't found a caliber that scares me but never tried the old 4 bore elephant guns. Those might do it.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (V+03K)

477 Anyone gonna stick around here and push to 500?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (bjCNA)

478 Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 10:13 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (MVjcR)

479 Iowa Bob. sure. But Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:17 PM (hyuyC)

480 477 Anyone gonna stick around here and push to 500?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:16 PM (bjCNA)
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I'm going to be around for a few more minutes. And as always, thanks to all for stopping by tonight and making this fun!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:18 PM (MVjcR)

481 Weasel, I thank you and the commenters. I learn a lot here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (hyuyC)

482 Wanna see a very small cannon acting like a rifle?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8WiLqPB4lU0


Look. At. Those. Rounds.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM (pUDQf)

483 I was looking at a .69 cal musket. Always wanted a musket, but I decided it was a little pricey for something I'd maybe fire once a year. Like about half the guns I have.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM (Qf//Q)

484 50-70 Sharps. Lovely rifle, and as fun as the 45-70 Trapdoor Springfield.

The scariest gun I ever shot was a Hakim that someone had shortened the barrel on. 8mm Mauser that sounded like the crack of doom.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 10:21 PM (mUa7G)

485 481 Weasel, I thank you and the commenters. I learn a lot here.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:20 PM (hyuyC)
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Absolutely my pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (Qf//Q)

486 479 Iowa Bob. sure. But Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:17 PM (hyuyC)


Yeah, but 500 on a gun thread !

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:23 PM (bjCNA)

487 446 Name the highest caliber you've fired from a rifle or handgun. Name the caliber that scares you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:06 PM (pUDQf)


Rifle: 90mm
Handgun: 500 S&W

Both are fun for me.


I have shot some unpleasant guns, though.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (di1hb)

488 The AK had a lot of teething troubles, and didn't reach the Russian army in large numbers until about 1956. SKS prior to that time.

Posted by: William Befort at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (hJFOo)

489 What part of Iowa?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (hyuyC)

490 Thanks you, Weasel, for the gub threads. Hope to meet you someday, somewhere at a MoMeet.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (bjCNA)

491 I mean, it would be dumb to buy a musket, right? Especially one made in Philadelphia in 1834.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (Qf//Q)

492 Jacking the post count, boss.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (pUDQf)

493 489 What part of Iowa?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (hyuyC)


Central Iowa, Des Moines area.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (bjCNA)

494 490 Thanks you, Weasel, for the gub threads. Hope to meet you someday, somewhere at a MoMeet.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:25 PM (bjCNA)
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Thanks and same here, Iowa Bob.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (Qf//Q)

495 Especially one that was converted from a flintlock

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:27 PM (Qf//Q)

496 I think any chance to buy a 1834 musket ends in buying an 1834 musket.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:27 PM (pUDQf)

497 I.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (pUDQf)

498
Central Iowa, Des Moines area.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (bjCNA)
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I do a lot of work with PFG.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (Qf//Q)

499 Love.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (pUDQf)

500 Guns.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (pUDQf)

501 Lol

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (pUDQf)

502 496 I think any chance to buy a 1834 musket ends in buying an 1834 musket.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:27 PM (pUDQf)
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It's a nice one!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (Qf//Q)

503 498
Central Iowa, Des Moines area.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:26 PM (bjCNA)
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I do a lot of work with PFG.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:28 PM (Qf//Q)


PFG ? I don't recognize that.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (bjCNA)

504 Nice! Over 500 on a gub thread. Is this a first?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:30 PM (bjCNA)

505 I did not own a firearm until 2007, when I realized Obama was a communist. And a totalitarian.

He put a lot of bad people in government, but fortunately he was too lazy to act on his twisted urges.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 14, 2018 10:30 PM (hyuyC)

506 Hey - lookie there! 500!

That's about it for me. See ya'll next week. Not sure what my schedule will be like next Sunday - we'll be flying back from the TXMoMe, but I will have something to put up. Thanks again and goodnight!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (Qf//Q)

507 Thanks Weasel! Be safe.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:32 PM (pUDQf)

508 Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (bjCNA)
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Principal Financial Group. They administer our benefit plans.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (Qf//Q)

509 Next week: a thousand!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (cTajt)

510 504 Nice! Over 500 on a gub thread. Is this a first?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:30 PM (bjCNA)
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Last week too!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:34 PM (Qf//Q)

511 If you want a thousand posts, you'll have to debate 9mm vs .45 and then 5.56 vs 7.62. Then Rambo vs Chuck Norris.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (pUDQf)

512 508 Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:29 PM (bjCNA)
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Principal Financial Group. They administer our benefit plans.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 10:33 PM (Qf//Q)


Ah, OK. Never heard PFG, around here they're just "Principal". Seems like half the people here either work for them, or Wells Fargo, or the state.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 10:35 PM (bjCNA)

513 Aw, sorry I missed this one. I've never fired an AK-47, but they sound like a good rifle to have.

Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 10:37 PM (sdi6R)

514 > have you been to the range?
Yes. Still learning the SW22 victory and am shooting better and better with it.

I also learned that it will go about 815 rounds until it gets so dirty that it'll stop working until you clean it.

I cleaned it and it worked again!

Posted by: Arthur G Kimes at October 14, 2018 10:38 PM (ndU7W)

515 488 The AK had a lot of teething troubles, and didn't reach the Russian army in large numbers until about 1956.
Posted by: William Befort at October 14, 2018 10:24 PM (hJFOo)


I didn't know that. I always thought the Norks had them in the Korean War.

Posted by: rickl at October 14, 2018 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

516 You have hit upon what should be a continuing theme in the gun thread: com-bloc small arms genius. Was Kalashnikov's automat derivative? YES. He borrowed from every available design he could... but, was it genius? DECIDEDLY SO. Imagine designing a rifle system that could be
1) built with substandard materials
2) so sloppily toleranced it will run, effectively, with substandard ammunition
3) so intuitive to operate that a total idiot can run it.
Browning knew his designs would be appreciated and used by a nation accustomed to rifles, handguns, and shotguns. Mikhail, Simonov, Tokarev and Makarov built guns to be used by beet farmers.

Posted by: SixgunSam at October 14, 2018 10:45 PM (m9Xni)

517 how many americans have been killed by ak-47?

Posted by: ramondo at October 15, 2018 02:23 AM (PbMBm)

518 how many americans have been killed by ak-47?


Essential none in the great scheme of things, Joe, even counting the Vietnam War and the recent Middle East conflicts. The big victim of the AK47 are the brown people of Africa and Asia, numbering in the millions, but they are acceptable losses, right?.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 15, 2018 08:02 AM (yQpMk)

Food Thread: "I said it in Hebrew--I said it in Dutch-- I said it in German and Greek: But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much) That English is what you speak!"

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I have a couple of enameled cast-iron pots, and they are wonderful workhorses. Why anyone would buy a slow cooker instead of one these is beyond me. Yes, that is the equivalent of longbow vs. crossbow, but I can brown the food in my Dutch oven...can you brown stuff in your slow cooker? Hah! I thought not!

As I write this I am baking bread in my smaller pot, and in a few days I will make Dijon and Cognac Beef Stew, which I will eat with that bread. That's a NYT recipe, so ignore the blather and just cook the dish. I like the combination of the bite of the mustard and the richness of the beef. But...don't bother with the salt pork (and if you do, don't throw it away!), just use bacon fat. I think the salt pork is an affectation. What a surprise from the NYT! And the Cognac is another affection...it is a complete and total waste of money to use Cognac. A cheap bottle of American brandy is perfectly good stuff for cooking, and it doesn't taste bad either.

One of the advantages of a cast-iron pot is that the raw material is pretty cheap, and enameling them is a pretty straightforward process, so serviceable pots can be had for not too much money. Sure, you can buy a Le Creuset pot for a few hundred dollars, or a Staub for a lot more than that, but you can also go to Walmart and get a perfectly good one for $50 or $60. Just make sure that the lid handle is robustly attached and it has pretty good heft, and you will be good to go. If it wears out in 10 years, then you will have done a huge amount of cooking! And maybe by then you will be able to buy an "American Oven," since we all want to keep Euro-trash out of our homes whenever possible.

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I am not a fan of apples. Of course I will eat apple pie, because I am not a bed-wetting commie, but I like it mostly for the crust. However, there was a donut shop in Berkeley called King Pin Donuts (which I have mentioned before) that made the most magnificent apple fritters. They were just incredible after an evening at the local bars and then a nightcap at Top Dog for a bratwurst and a spicy hotdog.

The fritters were huge...easily five or six inches long, and they were usually piping hot from the oil. It was an unbelievable taste sensation that I can remember clearly.

These aren't them, but they sound pretty good, and easy, so why not give it a try and report back!. Easy Apple Fritters Recipe The recipe does not call for a sugar glaze, and I think that is a mistake, but one easily rectified.

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It isn't pizza and you can't make me call it that! It is more accurately call "Tomato Pie," but it is pretty good, especially if it is cooked at a high temperature and the dough gets nice and crispy and oil-soaked.
Chicago-Style Deep Dish Pizza is a breeze to make, especially if you have the appropriate pan.
It's cousin Detroit Pizza is also pretty damned good, and just as easy to make. Both of them are hearty and filling and one pan serves several people. Just the thing on a cold winter day.

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Home-Cured Sorghum Bacon

Pork Belly is rapidly becoming hipster food, and that troubles me greatly, because they pulled that shit with hanger steak and it is now triple the price. Keep your stinking paws off my food you damned dirty bearded freaks!

But "Garden And Gun" is a pretty serious magazine, and I like most of their recipes. They seem to be less PC than most food/lifestyle magazines, and they do not shy away from bourbon or fat.

This recipe looks ridiculously easy, and comes at the perfect time, since I just opened a jar of dark molasses for a teaspoon of the stuff. What to do...what to do? I think I'll try this recipe! Yes, I know, they aren't the same, but I think it will work fairly well, and since my local Costco carries pork belly and the butchers will cut me whatever size I want, it would be silly not to try!

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Pan-Seared Pork Chops with Apricot-Dijon Sauce

I will never understand the allure of boneless pork loin. Yes, I will eat it, and sometimes I buy it when it is on sale and I am making cutlets or something that requires trimming. But a good pork chop is a wonderful thing. The bones are great to munch on, add flavor and viscosity to the pan drippings, and even look great! So I will give this recipe a pass for the apricot but not for the pork loin. Cook it with cheaper and better chops. And make them thicker than one inch. Sometimes size really does matter!

Oh...do not trim the bones or...shudder..."French" them. That is a crime and will get you sent to the corner in the kitchens at Chez Dildo.

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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, Henry Big Boys in .357, Scotch Eggs, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Just pondering what to eat tonight.

Posted by: HH at October 14, 2018 04:00 PM (mIJBI)

2 You are very predictable, CBD.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2018 04:01 PM (T6t7i)

3 Sure, you can buy a Le Creuset pot for a few hundred dollars, or a Staub
for a lot more than that, but you can also go to Walmart and get a
perfectly good one for $50 or $60.


Those pots are fashion statements.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2018 04:02 PM (T6t7i)

4 Sam's Club has a decent heavy enameled cast-iron item for like $40. It's about 1/7 the price of a Le Creuset and like you said, even if it chips after a year that's still a heck of a deal.

Deal-clincher: it comes in teal.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:02 PM (y87Qq)

5 And yes, I want them.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2018 04:02 PM (T6t7i)

6 I'm hungry. Also, I want one of those pans. My mom has some that look like that, they're awesome.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 04:02 PM (GBteo)

7 I just made some brats (browned them, then cooked them in some over-hoppy IPA I had). Delish! I'm going to use some of them in this:

https://www.kudoskitchenbyrenee.com/pumpkin-cream-pasta-bratwurst/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:03 PM (kQs4Y)

8 Deal-clincher: it comes in teal.

Posted by: hogmartin


Hah! I have one in persimmon. Not apricot, not orange, persimmon. Because that's what all the manly men use.

Posted by: pep at October 14, 2018 04:03 PM (T6t7i)

9 That thing that is not pizza, I could eat that. I imagine a lady-sized piece would be sufficient, though--that looks filling!

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 04:04 PM (OX9vb)

10 https://tinyurl.com/y7al7rvk

Started a beef barley soup with mushrooms in that this morning.

p.s. it is teal.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:05 PM (y87Qq)

11 That Chicago pizza pictured is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 04:05 PM (I16G8)

12 I truely live and die by my croc pot. In fall and early winter it is great to pull the removable croc out of the frig and drop it into the croc pot and 10 hours later, Hot meal.

Cast Iron is great but can be a pain as well.

Posted by: Picric at October 14, 2018 04:06 PM (Y/8Zg)

13
PSA-

Do you like buttering your biscuits or rolls almost immediately after they've come out of the oven? Me, too. And it was always irritating to have the butter slide off the hot knife.

I found an old baby spoon in the back of our silverware drawer this week and saved it for this morning when I made biscuits. It's perfect for the butter job because it's just spoon-like enough to hold the butter in place, but flat enough to slide out easily and leave all the butter on the biscuit.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:06 PM (m5Z/I)

14 I have a La Creuset (in chartreuse -- gorgeous!) and it's great, but I use my slow cooker ten times for every one use of the pot. I can set it and forget it, which is what I would do with the pot, with disastrous results.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:06 PM (kQs4Y)

15 Oh and thanks to everyone, got power back early afternoon. Thanks to all and praying for all still with out power.

Posted by: Picric at October 14, 2018 04:07 PM (Y/8Zg)

16 I like the Le Creuset Dutch ovens. I got a great price on one years ago at either Marshall's or TJ Maxx. Lime green.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at October 14, 2018 04:08 PM (2NqXo)

17 I found an old baby spoon in the back of our
silverware drawer this week and saved it for this morning when I made
biscuits. It's perfect for the butter job because it's just spoon-like
enough to hold the butter in place, but flat enough to slide out easily
and leave all the butter on the biscuit.




Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:06 PM (m5Z/I)


Baby spoons also work well for digging out pieces of grapefruit.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:08 PM (tT986)

18 Yes, that is the equivalent of longbow vs. crossbow, but I can brown the food in my Dutch oven...can you brown stuff in your slow cooker? Hah! I thought not!

Posted by CBD.

I can in my fake Insta-Pot.

Then shift to slow cook or pressure cook mode.

But I did buy myself a dutch oven one year. GolfLady took it back after 2 months of non use.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:09 PM (If3tB)

19 I use my slow cooker ten times for every one use of the pot. I can set it and forget it, which is what I would do with the pot, with disastrous results.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:06 PM (kQs4Y)


Another thing to be said for the slow cooker is that it will never get above a simmer. Maybe people with gas ranges don't have the problem, but with electric - and especially for cookware that has a lot of mass to heat up - it's too easy for me to set a good simmer and come back and find that it's boiling over.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:09 PM (y87Qq)

20
Wow!

Just made pot-roasted chicken with chorizo an leeks in apple cider last night in my latte Le Creuset. A godsend, IMHO.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 04:09 PM (/9p9e)

21 Why anyone would buy a slow cooker instead of one these is beyond me

So Mom can do the turkey out of the way in the laundry room while the rest of Thanksgiving gets done in the kitchen with my sister.

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2018 04:09 PM (FhXTo)

22 willowed, but it's kinda a recipe:

want fuse?
go to Ace's Amazon link, search for "cannon fuse"
you're welcome.

the LOL is what people bought besides it: magnesium ribbon, aluminum and black iron oxide powders...

thermite, anyone?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:10 PM (kRSP9)

23 That tomato pie looks like something two peasants in a Brueghel painting would cart in on their shoulders.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:10 PM (kQs4Y)

24

Latte? LARGE. Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 04:10 PM (/9p9e)

25 Beef stew calls for pommery mustard. What's that? Is it made with pomeranians?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 14, 2018 04:11 PM (Dhht7)

26 Instant Pot also makes great rice. 1:1 water to rice for white and jasmine after it's been rinsed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:11 PM (X/i2V)

27 I just love baby spoons.

Posted by: DOCTOR Ballsey Fraud at October 14, 2018 04:12 PM (Tyii7)

28 All hail the Insta-Pot!

Praise him!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:12 PM (kQs4Y)

29 CBD. Is that a bottom round roast in the first pic?

I always been scared of those.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:12 PM (If3tB)

30 Also puts less heat into the house than the oven during summer.

Posted by: DaveA at October 14, 2018 04:13 PM (FhXTo)

31 Pan-seared porkchops. Heh. I read that as pumpkin-spice porkchops at first.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2018 04:13 PM (zLDYs)

32 I just had Pork Chops with a brown apple gravy. Those were pretty tasty.

Posted by: Traveling Man &&&& at October 14, 2018 04:14 PM (1O5mk)

33 You can find good deals on Le Creuset at Marshall's and TJ Maxx. And, if you're patient, sometimes they wind up in the clearance aisle which makes for even better deals.

I love Chicago pizza. That one looks divine.

Love pork and apriocot together.

I wouldn't even think of trying to make bacon; I'll leave that one to the pros.

Delicious food thread today, CBD - thank you!

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:16 PM (U5tDi)

34 I have six pounds of pork ribs doing their thing in the slow cooker...rubbed with a little rub from the cookbook (wish I could remember who to thank) and smothered in sliced lemons and onions.

No, I can't brown anything in the crock pot but I'll stack these ribs up against anything that came out of an oven. Anyway, if you read Cooks' Illustrated you'll learn that browning first is no longer the preferred method. Messes with the interior texture of meat. Brown after it's cooked.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:16 PM (7xXFn)

35 Beef stew calls for pommery mustard. What's that? Is it made with pomeranians?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 14, 2018 04:11 PM (Dhht7)


That's a really good question. Unless they mean Colman's, I don't think I have any of that. Colman's is what poms use, so it's kind of pommery, right?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:16 PM (y87Qq)

36 Latte? LARGE. Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 04:10 PM (/9p9e)
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I thought you were bragging about the color.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:17 PM (U5tDi)

37
I love my 'dutch oven'. I made a little turkey in one last week. Cooked at 350 for a couple hours then let it stew in it's own juice for hours at 175. Of course, some white wine assisted in the tenderization. Came out nicely browned.

Best turkey ever. One single dollar per pound. Cheap.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 14, 2018 04:17 PM (URwyc)

38 Latte? LARGE. Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 04:10 PM (/9p9e)
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I thought you were bragging about the color.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:17 PM (U5tDi)


It's more of a celeriac than a latte. Almost jicama.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:17 PM (y87Qq)

39 Beef stew/pot roast is the most supreme of all meals.

I even prefer it over steak and that's saying something.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 14, 2018 04:18 PM (xJa6I)

40 > can you brown stuff in your slow cooker? Hah! I thought not

Well, the Instapot is sooooo much more than a slow cooker. You see, it has a 'sear' setting. Very useful for browning meat before building the rest of the stew. And under the pressure setting, the entire stew is done in 20 min!

Posted by: dd at October 14, 2018 04:18 PM (V2W/Q)

41 You gotta add rutabaga to any beef stew. Verboten to leave it out.

Posted by: hepcat at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (5b+Sr)

42 Browning is easy.
Broil is a feature on nearly every modern oven.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (wFDuq)

43 I have a slow-cooker (well, two - one large and one small that I got for $3 at a thrift shop) and several enameled cast-iron pots. I use them all, for totally different things.

They're not interchangeable, for the most part.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (U5tDi)

44 Beef Stew and variants is one of those things that is never made the same way twice. But I like a few things and always try to include at least some of them. Beer makes for a good broth. Strong coffee, too. Red wine, sherry, is good too. Fresh garlic of course. Powdered garlic is always a poor substitute. I like to dredge the stew meat in a flour spice mix, including salt & pepper, smoked paprika, etc. Small amount of clove and Anise. The key in any recipe, is not to go overboard with the spices. Less really is more.

Stew meat is damnably expensive these days.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (izrAO)

45 Instapot is life.
Instapot is love.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (fA1SL)

46 24 Latte? LARGE. Sheesh.

Heh. I thought that might be the latest frou-frou color.

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (OX9vb)

47 The key in any recipe, is not to go overboard with the spices. Less really is more.

Stew meat is damnably expensive these days.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (izrAO)
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The other key is to make it at least a day before you plan to eat it, if you can remember. I generally can't.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:20 PM (U5tDi)

48 Good pot roast is to die for.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:20 PM (NWiLs)

49 Ah, I see bluebell got there before I.

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 04:21 PM (OX9vb)

50 I leave my slow cooker unattended but not my Dutch Oven. If I had a Dutch Oven.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:23 PM (EZebt)

51 39
Beef stew/pot roast is the most supreme of all meals.



I even prefer it over steak and that's saying something.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 14, 2018 04:18 PM (xJa6I)



In seventy-two years I have yet to meet a man who won't succumb to roast beef, mashed potatoes, gravy and green beans. It's foolproof.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:23 PM (7xXFn)

52 Stew meat is damnably expensive these days.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (izrAO)

Any beef has become expensive.

I've been trying new pork meals. A thick cut bone in chop is great. I'll do a pork steak when I can find them.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:23 PM (If3tB)

53 We had a bumper crop of tomatoes & peppers, but the weather went from 60 degrees yesterday to 20 degrees (with 6" of snow) this morning.
Mrs jwb manage to salvage almost the whole crop which also included Hatch & Jalapeno peppers, so we're having chili for supper.
Rest of the veggies got distributed to the neighbors.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 14, 2018 04:24 PM (uU9ws)

54
BTW, if someone speaks Dutch, you can be sure they speak English too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:24 PM (EZebt)

55 Beef stew calls for pommery mustard. What's that?

Did a little Bing action and the NYT is calling for a particular brand of whole grain mustard. I'd think you'd get an acceptable result from almost any barely ground mustard.

Colman's is what poms use, so it's kind of pommery, right?

That's pommy, you East Ender...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (j0Oc6)

56 A word about salt pork. Bacon, no matter how appled or mapled or expensive it is, is a poor substitute. I'm a Southern girl, and have known the difference since I was a tot.
Salt pork is super salty and the 'grease' gives a layer of taste ALL its own..way better than bacon. And those little crispy things left after it's rendered are called 'cracklins.' I always eat many of them just because ... cook's privilege.
Just trust me on this...use salt pork, ok?

Posted by: Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)

57 I am going to try that bacon recipe. I don't usually like sweet bacon but I can cut the sorghum back by half to just get a hint of sweet.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (JUOKG)

58 I always been scared of those.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:12 PM (If3tB)

Or a chuck roast. I can't tell. But why bother with the round? Chuck is God's gift to stews and pot roasts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (wYseH)

59 50 I leave my slow cooker unattended but not my Dutch Oven. If I had a Dutch Oven.

Canoe accident?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (cTajt)

60 Stew is definitely better after a day or two!

Pizza dough, and cookie dough, is much improved after a few days in the fridge. Thing is, most people, especially kids, aren't inclined to wait. "Hey kids! Should we make cookies?!"

"Yay!!"

"Ok, they are all ready to go. We'll cook them the day after tomorrow."

CPS will be come a knocking

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (izrAO)

61 Oh, I had to look up that quote and now I feel such shame!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:26 PM (fuK7c)

62 Brown after it's cooked.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:16 PM (7xXFn)

You are a communist.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:26 PM (wYseH)

63 Any recipe that begins "24 hours prior to baking" is not "simplicity itself".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:27 PM (kQs4Y)

64 Or a chuck roast. I can't tell. But why bother with the round? Chuck is God's gift to stews and pot roasts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (wYseH)

That's it. Gotta have the fat.

But I see the rounds on sale. Must be a reason.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:27 PM (If3tB)

65 Posted by: Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)


Salt pork is wonderful with greens. And baked beans. You're right...bacon isn't a great substitute.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (7xXFn)

66
Brown.
Pressure cooker.
THEN slow cooker.

But only if you don't want to have to use a knife.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (X/i2V)

67 Pizza dough, and cookie dough, is much improved
after a few days in the fridge. Thing is, most people, especially kids,
aren't inclined to wait. "Hey kids! Should we make cookies?!"



"Yay!!"



"Ok, they are all ready to go. We'll cook them the day after tomorrow."



CPS will be come a knocking

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (izrAO)


Or, if they were like me and my siblings, will consume the cookie dough little by little until it's all gone; who cares about the raw eggs.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (tT986)

68 66
Brown.
Pressure cooker.
THEN slow cooker.

But only if you don't want to have to use a knife.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (X/i2V)

I like knives.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (NWiLs)

69 A creuset and two knockoffs...in a day i can make a pot roast or chili and two loaves of sourdough.

A beautiful thing. Everyone should have one.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (1swjO)

70 You are a communist.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:26 PM (wYseH)


Luddite.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (7xXFn)

71 61. That's good, though. We need to shine the light in these types of things.....makes it easier to cleanse them with flammenwerfer

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 04:29 PM (fA1SL)

72 Yeah beef has become expensive, though when even stew meat is high, it is an insult.
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Cookies: Bacon grease substitutes nicely for butter in cookie recipes. It is excellent, and doesn't nuke the butter supply.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:29 PM (izrAO)

73 My big complaint about CBD is that he's too snarky.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 04:29 PM (/qEW2)

74 Or a chuck roast. I can't tell. But why bother with the round? Chuck is God's gift to stews and pot roasts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (wYseH)

Think that is a round roast. Ugh.

But chuck is where its at. Gotta have the fat.

But I see the rounds on sale. Must be a reason.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (If3tB)

75 Tonight its homemade falafel, hummus, farmer's market cucumbers and tomatoes.

Tomorrow's chicken is already roasted and chicken stock simmering for won ton soup.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (EZebt)

76 I recall having rented a unit some years back where I discovered an abandoned set of six cast iron skillets, pans and griddles. And one oven. Still have them to this day. Priceless.

Posted by: Fritz at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (Z9C5C)

77 Looks like CBD's salty today.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)

78 A thick cut bone in chop is great.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:23 PM (If3tB)

Yup...and if you can find a thick one from near the shoulder it will be even better!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (wYseH)

79 74 Or a chuck roast. I can't tell. But why bother with the round? Chuck is God's gift to stews and pot roasts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (wYseH)

Think that is a round roast. Ugh.

But chuck is where its at. Gotta have the fat.

But I see the rounds on sale. Must be a reason.
Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (If3tB)

?????

That's a first.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (If3tB)

80 Our red Le Creuset was given to us as a wedding present, 38 years ago. Still red & going strong. Seen lots of country chicken & dumplings, beef stews, pot roasts, fish chowdas, etc. ("etc" means I can't think of anything else to say)

Posted by: Caliban at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (QE8X6)

81 Apples>carrots

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (PUmDY)

82 52 Stew meat is damnably expensive these days.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:19 PM (izrAO)


I wait until King Soopers (or any Kroger) has the really bad steak on sale for $2.50 a pound.
Cubed, those tough steaks make excellent stew meat.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (uU9ws)

83 I recall having rented a unit some years back where I discovered an abandoned set of six cast iron skillets, pans and griddles. And one oven. Still have them to this day. Priceless.
Posted by: Fritz at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (Z9C5C)
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Wow, that is truly a find! Lucky you. You'll be passing them down to your great-grandchildren.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (U5tDi)

84 "can you brown stuff in your slow cooker? Hah! I thought not!"

Um, yes actually, my LUX80 browns things nicely.

Posted by: Frag at October 14, 2018 04:31 PM (FCJFC)

85 You are a communist.

Deflecting I see, Maple Syrup heretic.

Back to the cast iron, did a batch of Beef Bourguignon from Anthony Bourdain's Les Halles Cookbook, worked out nicely. Had to reduce it a bit longer than he stated but the end result was well worth it.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 14, 2018 04:32 PM (j0Oc6)

86 Just trust me on this...use salt pork, ok?

Posted by: Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)

So...you're a bacon hater?

They throw it out after rendering. I think that is disgusting and wasteful and pompous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:32 PM (wYseH)

87 I want to see a parody of Hunting of the Snark with a ship full of Democrats and Trump as the Boojum.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (/qEW2)

88 The boss is having a rough day today.

Posted by: French Toast at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (Tyii7)

89 Whilst in the process of walking to my neighbor's to feed her cats this morning I stumbled across a tree with a nice crop of oyster mushrooms. I picked two big ones. Will dip in egg wash, roll in cracker crumbs and fry very slowly in 50/50 butter/olive oil. They'll go well with the boneless pork ribs.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (7xXFn)

90 I usually do the low carb thing, sorta, but not religiously. This week I reaaaally wanted baked potatoes, and did a couple in the crock pot. Buttered and salted the outside, wrapped in parchment paper, 10 hours on low while I was at work, and they were perfect.

Tonight, I'm making chicken vegetable stew, for my low carb lunches this week.

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (OX9vb)

91 Looks like CBD's salty today.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)
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Today?

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (U5tDi)

92 Correction: "roll in cracker panko bread crumbs.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (7xXFn)

93 Nice things about the slow cooker/crock pot? 1. they are very cheap, even if bought new, next to free if bought from Goodwill.

2. They don't burn food as long there is at least a minimum amount of water present.

3. They don't monopolize a stove burner for hours.

4. Probably use less electricity doing it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (iwUO9)

94 There are plenty of recipes for French Toast made in a Dutch oven. A bunch of them don't require actual maple syrup.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (tT986)

95 Luddite.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM (7xXFn)

Progressive shill for Big Slow-Cooker!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (wYseH)

96 Never discount the role of appetite in the recipe. I remember camping once in the wilds of Utah/Arizona border, and browning some hamburger & onion in a cast iron pan over hardwood coals. Stirred in a can of chili and let it simmer for a little while. It was really tasty, way better than it had any right to be.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (izrAO)

97 I must say it's refreshing to see someone else fighting with him for a change.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:35 PM (U5tDi)

98 I just don't like deep dish pizza. I hate to give NYers credit for anything, on general principle, but they're in the right on the whole pizza thing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 14, 2018 04:35 PM (H5knJ)

99 Whilst in the process of walking to my neighbor's to feed her cats this morning I stumbled across a tree with a nice crop of oyster mushrooms.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:33 PM (7xXFn)

Around May I always see a hen of the wood cluster on the course.

I'd harvest it but have no idea what to do with it.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:36 PM (If3tB)

100 London broil goes on sale around me pretty often. I've found it does well chopped up as stew meat or for some delicious white trash beef curry. It makes good beef tips with gravy and onions after a bit of pressure cooking, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:36 PM (X/i2V)

101 Whilst in the process of walking to my neighbor's to feed her cats this morning I stumbled across a tree with a nice crop of oyster mushrooms. I picked two big ones. Will dip in egg wash, roll in cracker crumbs and fry very slowly in 50/50 butter/olive oil. They'll go well with the boneless pork ribs.


Mrs928 eats mushrooms out of our yard. I'm not comfortable eating stuff that grows out of my yard, even the wooded part.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:36 PM (yQpMk)

102 Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 04:36 PM (MVjcR)

103 Progressive shill for Big Slow-Cooker!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (wYseH)


Damn straight. I've got three of those babies. You name it, I can slow-cook it.
And you will love it.
Or else.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:37 PM (7xXFn)

104 Never discount the role of appetite in the recipe.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (izrAO)

Oh...HELL YES!

A meal in my top-ten all-time great list?

Supermarket salami.
Supermarket sourdough bread.
Supermarket cheddar cheese.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:37 PM (wYseH)

105 CBD, You won my heart with your praise for enameled cast iron dutch ovens. I use cast iron, in general, more and more and the enameled pots are wonderfully versatile. We haven't bothered to replace our slow cooker.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (V+03K)

106 I just asked her and she says they are Chanterelles (sp?).

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (yQpMk)

107 I must say it's refreshing to see someone else fighting with him for a change.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:35 PM (U5tDi)


Refreshing would be a food thread without exchanges of sporadic gunfire across the dining table, but unfortunately we can't have that kind of friendship and camaraderie here.

Not so long as a single ketchup-hotdog heretic still draws breath anyway.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (y87Qq)

108 Never discount the role of appetite in the recipe. I
remember camping once in the wilds of Utah/Arizona border, and browning
some hamburger onion in a cast iron pan over hardwood coals.
Stirred in a can of chili and let it simmer for a little while. It was
really tasty, way better than it had any right to be.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (izrAO)


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Pizza lunchables on a blanket by the river with your kids is one of the most delicious things you'll ever eat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (X/i2V)

109 CBD, WE DEMAND YOU TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY DUE TO ITS GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS OF THE MULTILATED AND DESCRATED CORPSES OF INNOCENT, MURDERED ANIMALS!!!!

Posted by: PETA at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (tKF1g)

110 Not so long as a single ketchup-hotdog heretic still draws breath anyway.


Death? Seriously?

A decade on the Kanal will get their minds right.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:39 PM (yQpMk)

111 Just trust me on this...use salt pork, ok?

Posted by: Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)

So...you're a bacon hater?

They throw it out after rendering. I think that is disgusting and wasteful and pompous.



Pish posh! I was about to defend you over something else, Mr. Dildo, but I no longer remember what that was.

Everybody has something called pigs in blankets. It's a hot dog baked in a roll, or it's sausage in a cabbage, but we have a pigs in blankets tradition which relies on *eating* the rended salt pork.

New Hampshire Swamp Yankee Pigs in Blankets starts with rendering out strips of fatback. Then you make a simple batter (I will look it up upon request) and you pour the batter into the grease to fry.

Then you drop all the strips of rended fatback into the batter, flip, and serve with carrots and mashed taters.

It was a rare treat because Mommy had to be out of town, it was Daddy cooking and Mom hated the way it smelled up the house.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:39 PM (fuK7c)

112 The boss is having a rough day today.


Underboss.

A capo. Not capo di tutti capi.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (fuK7c)

113 Mrs928 eats mushrooms out of our yard. I'm not comfortable eating stuff that grows out of my yard, even the wooded part.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:36 PM (yQpMk)


She probably eating agaricus campestris...the common meadow mushroom that's related to the ones you buy in stores. They're delicious.

My family was serious about mushrooms and I learned from childhood to identify the ones that are edible. The training must have worked. I'm still here.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (7xXFn)

114 Refreshing would be a food thread without
exchanges of sporadic gunfire across the dining table, but unfortunately
we can't have that kind of friendship and camaraderie here.




Not so long as a single ketchup-hotdog heretic still draws breath anyway.



Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (y87Qq)

*Raises hand*
I've mentioned this before, but I like ketchup on cucumber too.

We're good to go for a while to come.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (tT986)

115 Remember back in the olden days when we fought over maple syrup? Good times, good times.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (MVjcR)

116 Posted by: Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)


Salt pork is wonderful with greens. And baked beans. You're right...bacon isn't a great substitute.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:28 PM

Thanks Mary and creeper. When I read salt pork I instantly thought sub w/ bacon. Never used salt pork before.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (Dhht7)

117 Last night, I cubed some butternut squash and baked it along with some gold cauliflower. Finished them off by roasting to make it kinda crispy, then dusted them with cinnamon and red pepper. Also made some red curry with some mushrooms.

Treated myself to a cookie dough blizzard from DQ afterwards, because healthy!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (0GuIv)

118 /sotto voice: "We've exchanged CBD's molasses with maple syrup... now, lets see if he notices."

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (kRSP9)

119 Then you drop all the strips of rended fatback into the batter, flip, and serve with carrots and mashed taters.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:39 PM (fuK7c)

That sounds good!

greasy batter is one of the culinary world's wonders.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:41 PM (wYseH)

120 I only eat wild mushrooms for recreational purposes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:41 PM (yQpMk)

121 Never discount the role of appetite in the recipe.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:34 PM (izrAO)

During Matthew I made a batch of chicken salad for the neighbors.

They all bragged it was the best they had ever had.

Canned chicken, mayonnaise, celery, pickle relish, yellow mustard and some salt and pepper.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:41 PM (If3tB)

122
98 I hate to give NYers credit for anything, on general principle, but they're in the right on the whole pizza thing.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 14, 2018 04:35 PM (H5knJ)

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I'm showing this comment to Mrs. Franpsycho who is Wrong About Pizza.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:41 PM (EZebt)

123 Those Instant Pots have a searing function.. so yes you can sear in a slow cooker now.
The advantage of course is you can be cooking while you are at work and come home to delicious meal.
We have a couple of Le Creuset pots.. 25 years old and still going strong!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 04:42 PM (438dO)

124 I've mentioned this before, but I like ketchup on cucumber too.

We're good to go for a while to come.
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (tT986)
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Thank you. That makes me feel better about my ketchup on hot dog thing.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (U5tDi)

125 Treated myself to a cookie dough blizzard from DQ afterwards, because healthy!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (0GuIv)


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Those fat-free, low carb, zero calorie Oreo ice cream / Oreo waffle cone combo that Sonic is selling right now are worth a try, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (X/i2V)

126 I'm showing this comment to Mrs. Franpsycho who is Wrong About Pizza.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:41 PM (EZebt)

Have you been to Zachary's in Oakland? That's my favorite deep-dish by a large margin.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (wYseH)

127 Raises hand*
I've mentioned this before, but I like ketchup on cucumber too.

We're good to go for a while to come.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (tT986)

Enough ketchup, and you could kill the taste of the cucumber entirely.

Which is a Good Thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (iwUO9)

128 106
I just asked her and she says they are Chanterelles (sp?).

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (yQpMk)


Oh, wow! That lucky woman!

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (7xXFn)

129 i'll ask this fairly early in the thread, for a change, but does the Horde have any advice/suggestions in the food dehydrator field, and/or for making beef jerky?

i love the stuff, but it's too damned expensive at the store or from the really good place downtown LA.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (kRSP9)

130 Bacon grease in cookies sounds incredible

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 04:45 PM (PUmDY)

131 My family was serious about mushrooms and I learned from childhood to identify the ones that are edible. The training must have worked. I'm still here.
Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:40 PM (7xXFn)


There are morels around here (not this time of year) and if you can tell a smallmouth bass from a largemouth, you can learn to identify true morels. False morels just don't taste good and make you a little sick; morel hunting is basically mushroom hunting on easy mode.

I'd be wary of trying to find edibles in your neighborhood though. If you've lived there, you know what's safe. There are stories every once in a while of immigrant families being wiped out by a toxic local mushroom that looks just like a variety they're used to seeing that is edible where they come from.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:46 PM (y87Qq)

132 I'm going to do a chuck roast in the pressure cooker for supper. I'm thinking I'll roast some fresh dug taters in the oven though, or possibly use the microwave. It was nice yesterday so I got them dug before the snow came.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 14, 2018 04:46 PM (3XPJI)

133 I just asked her and she says they are Chanterelles (sp?).

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (yQpMk)

Oh, wow! That lucky woman!

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (7xXF

Only wild mushrooms I have picked and eaten are Shaggy Manes. They are very distinctive in shape, and also yummy. But they have to be young ones. The old ones are full of purple spores.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 04:46 PM (iwUO9)

134 I grew up in Chicago and never even saw one of those "Chicago Style" pizzas until I was an adult.
Tourists eat that crap..
I do want to try Detroit pizza one of these days, however.. The nearest thing we had to that was Sicilian pan pizza which the old Italian bakeries sold.. yummy stuff!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 04:46 PM (438dO)

135 Waves at jwb! Nice day we are having today, huh? BRRRRRRR

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (FA9Ig)

136 it doesn't matter what you put on a raw cucumber: if you feed it to me, you will not want to share a room or be downwind of me anytime soon thereafter.

that's why G*d invented dill pickles.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (kRSP9)

137 i'll ask this fairly early in the thread, for a change, but does the Horde have any advice/suggestions in the food dehydrator field, and/or for making beef jerky?
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (kRSP9)


This is going to sound like a set-up, but talk with Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (y87Qq)

138 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 04:45 PM (PUmDY)

Yes...you are the current champion of the non sequitur, but is that a title you really want, especially considering that the last holder got banned?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (wYseH)

139 red, Cannibal Bob makes his own jerky, and sometimes it's not even from humans. I think he's away right now but when you see him on a thread, you should ask him.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (U5tDi)

140 97 I must say it's refreshing to see someone else fighting with him for a change.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:35 PM (U5tDi)

I'm just sitting back and enjoying the show.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

141
i'll ask this fairly early in the thread, for a change, but does the
Horde have any advice/suggestions in the food dehydrator field, and/or
for making beef jerky?

i love the stuff, but it's too damned expensive at the store or from the really good place downtown LA.


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (kRSP9)


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I've got one of the cheap circular models that's pretty much an enclosed hair drier that operates on super low. It does a good job and I think it's probably the best way to test the waters.

BUT

Unless you've got a favorite recipe I've just about decided that it's as expensive to prepare it - assuming you're not just buying whatever meat is on sale - as it is to buy it from a favorite place.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (X/i2V)

142 Those fat-free, low carb, zero calorie Oreo ice cream / Oreo waffle cone combo that Sonic is selling right now are worth a try, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (X/i2V)

Heh! Nice.... I had that little treat during the second intermission of the hockey game and then went to bed right after the game. Even though it was the small serving, I paid dearly. Had a glucose number of 170 overnight. But it was damn good.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (0GuIv)

143 Years ago a buddy invited me on a fishing trip to Minnesota's Mille Lac's lake (I think it was), we had great luck fishing, but his dad spied some 'shrooms growing off the side of a tree. I think they were called Elephant Ear. You've probably seen tem before. When they are fresh, before they get woody, they are a real delicacy. Fry 'em up, just like steak. Morel mushrooms are pretty common here, and absolutely delicious.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (izrAO)

144 Speaking of apples....

We have a couple of feral apple trees; probably Jonathans. My husband harvested six grocery bags' worth just before the freeze last night.

I do not have time for harvest tasks (well, maybe I would if I stopped lurking here), but we won't be able to give enough apples away to prevent waste.

Does anyone know a super-simple way to process these apples for future use? I will have to cut around worms and they turn brown within minutes.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (4HMW8)

145 Thank you. That makes me feel better about my ketchup on hot dog thing.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (U5tDi)

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We have to unite and stay strong. I use mostly ketchup only on hot dogs, but will sometimes add onion or sweet relish. It's how I grew up eating them.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (I16G8)

146 There are morels around here (not this time of year) and if you can tell a smallmouth bass from a largemouth, you can learn to identify true morels. False morels just don't taste good and make you a little sick; morel hunting is basically mushroom hunting on easy mode.

I'd be wary of trying to find edibles in your neighborhood though. If you've lived there, you know what's safe. There are stories every once in a while of immigrant families being wiped out by a toxic local mushroom that looks just like a variety they're used to seeing that is edible where they come from.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:46 PM (y87Qq)

Any suggestions for 99?

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (If3tB)

147 making beef jerky?


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (kRSP9)

Alton Brown has a recipe. It's easy, and far cheaper than the commercial stuff.

I think I may have posted it her a few weeks ago.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (wYseH)

148 Question for the Horde. Does the cooling weather make you think of making certain dishes?

I start thinking of long cooking (aka cast iron enameled pots), low temp meals like stews, soups, and baked beans. I also start thinking about baking bread of various types and, for some reason, making yogurt, kraut and other fermented veggies.


Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (V+03K)

149 A week or so ago I was attempting fishing in NE PA after torrential rains and I decided that what I was really doing was photographing the amazing variety of mushrooms that popped up.

I posted the pictures and thought about saying "I made a soup with one of each of these", but Facebook doesn't have the Horde's sense of humor.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (fuK7c)

150 Not so long as a single ketchup-hotdog heretic still draws breath anyway.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:38 PM (y87Qq)

I was hanging out with a girl at her house a few weeks ago, and went to grab a beer from her fridge and saw Heinz ketchup and yellow mustard. I casually asked her why she would own such things, and she said she occasionally eats hotdogs.

I stormed out of the house then and there.

(well, no, not really, but I'm going to say the reason it didnt work out was the ketchup on hotdog thing. It was probably just that she wasn't that in to me.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (GBteo)

151 Food really does taste better when you're a) really hungry and b) in less than hospitable conditions. For example, if you're camping and the nights are cold, pretty much anything you make over the campfire tastes several times better than when made at home.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (NWiLs)

152 I do want to try Detroit pizza one of these days

Has a shiv baked right into it.

Posted by: French Toast at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (Tyii7)

153 Does anyone know a super-simple way to process these apples for future use? I will have to cut around worms and they turn brown within minutes.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (4HMW

You could run them through a hog, and harvest the bacon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 04:50 PM (iwUO9)

154 What is Detroit Pizza? A pie cooked over a garbage fire by gangbangers?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 14, 2018 04:50 PM (H5knJ)

155 152 I do want to try Detroit pizza one of these days

Has a shiv baked right into it.
Posted by: French Toast at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (Tyii7)

Buy one, get a free drive-by.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 04:50 PM (NWiLs)

156 Any suggestions for 99?
Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (If3tB)


Hen of the wood? I've heard of them and might have eaten them, but I couldn't point to one and say "that's what that is".

Morels, I just cut into strips and pan-fry in butter. Maybe serve over pasta with olive oil if there are enough of them.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:51 PM (y87Qq)

157 Hi Emmie!

We made cider, sauce and butter. When I have done apples before......used a corer/slicer and lots of lemon juice

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (FA9Ig)

158 I made a bone-in pork roast last night that turned out fabulous.. found a recipe that said to roast on 450 degree for 15 minutes, then down to 325..

Took forever to come up to temp, but it was the juicies, most flavorful pork roast we've had in a long time..
and the kicker.. the recipe suggested using Montreal Steak Seasoning.. which I did.. lightly.. and I put some garlic silvers in the meat.. damn good.. it's gonna make some good sammiches later!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (438dO)

159 So I looked it up. It's GMan's rib rub recipe I'm using. It's really good.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (7xXFn)

160 CBD, ???

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (PUmDY)

161 We have no morels.

Posted by: Democrats at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (Tyii7)

162 I put some garlic silvers in the meat..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 04:52 PM (438dO)

Pork and garlic are wonderful together!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:53 PM (wYseH)

163 Does anyone know a super-simple way to process these apples for future use? I will have to cut around worms and they turn brown within minutes.
Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 04:48 PM (4HMW
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Emmie, if you wrap the apples individually in newspaper and put them in a box in your garage, they will stay fresh a long time.

If you don't want to hold them, why not make apple sauce? I buy apples by the bushel from the farmer's market this time of year and if they start getting soft before I can use them, I make apple sauce. Just peel them, cut out the bad spots, cut into quarters, throw in big pot with a little water on the bottom, cover, and cook until soft. You won't need any sugar. I give it a quick whirl with my immersion blender because that's the way my family likes it.

I freeze it in quart-size mason jars. My kids love it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:53 PM (U5tDi)

164 130 "Bacon grease in cookies sounds incredible"

It works well. It's not like anyone can really tell, it doesn't taste like bacon, but it makes for a good cookie. Cookie dough needs at least two days in the refrigerator. Try it. Butter has gotten expensive too, and so a good way to keep the cost down on something like cookies, is use bacon grease instead. Most people who like Bacon, already know its fat is superior for frying, and have it saved already.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:53 PM (izrAO)

165 I would point and laugh like Nelson Muntz at the cucumber-ketchup thing, but when tomato falls off my burger (which part of it always does because I'm incompetent at keeping burgers together while eating them), I dip the tomato in ketchup.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 14, 2018 04:54 PM (H5knJ)

166

Ah, CBD and I are on the same page.

Stews and soups and roasts season has hit our house.

This week I made a leg of lamb, and then after two nights of sliced lamb, I made a pot of lamb stew. Delicious.

The stew before this and the first of the cold season was a beef stew.

I froze a bit of both stews for nights I do not have time to cook, or just too lazy.

I was going to post a simple pork sausage recipe I found in one of my newer cookbooks, but I did not have time to type it up today, so next week hopefully. I plan to make some and have an egg breakfast with the fresh sausage. Will try the recipe "as is" and see if it will need some touches for another round if it's good.

Been drinking a lot of apple cider...

Have a nice evening all. Beautiful day here walking through the fallen leaves.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 14, 2018 04:54 PM (2I4LM)

167 129 i'll ask this fairly early in the thread, for a change, but does the Horde have any advice/suggestions in the food dehydrator field, and/or for making beef jerky?

i love the stuff, but it's too damned expensive at the store or from the really good place downtown LA.
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 04:44 PM (kRSP9)
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Cannibal Bob's ingredient sourcing protocol is, shall we say, unconventional.
I bought an inexpensive Nesco dehydrator on Amazon, and also Nesco Original flavor seasoning packets, the use an inexpensive chunk of beef. I can't recall the specific part of the cow, but a 4 or 5 pound roast is about $20. It really turns out well and WeaselDog is a big fan.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 04:54 PM (MVjcR)

168 144 Emmie, do you mean simple as in not canning? I slice them up and freeze them in pie-sized portions. But you will have to clean and cut them.

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 04:54 PM (OX9vb)

169 hogmartin, please don't say the word "morel". I start to tremble when I see that word. It's been three years since I had a morel and I think I'd kill for one. They grow here in OK but I'm still looking. And ain't nobody sharing info on where to look.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:55 PM (7xXFn)

170 I put some garlic silvers in the meat..


That's my approach to roasting anything four-legged.

Stabberate the meat, put a garlic sliver in each stab wound, then rub the rest of it with olive oil and herbs.

I don't care what kind of animal it used to be it will come out tasting good.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 04:55 PM (fuK7c)

171
What is Detroit Pizza? A pie cooked over a garbage fire by gangbangers?

Posted by: bear
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it's a pan pizza.. made in a very hot oven.. usuall using brick cheese.
you gotta get the cheese right out to the edge so it melts down the sides and gets really crispy.
https://tinyurl.com/yblcnlgj
BTW - DiGiorno has a frozen pizza called crispy crust that ain't half bad! It's rectangular..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 04:56 PM (438dO)

172 WDS, I saw that you were making yummy stuff with apples!

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 04:56 PM (4HMW8)

173

One more thing...

I bought a fresh baked potato bread with chives loaf to have alongside the stew. Thin slices of potatoes top it as well as cracked black pepper. Malt barley flour, it says. It's delicious warmed or toasted on its own.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 14, 2018 04:57 PM (2I4LM)

174 "I will never understand the allure of boneless pork loin."

Wife won't eat anything with bones in it. So that means no pork chops, no t-bones, no ribs, and no fried chicken.
Tonight having ribeyes with potatoes corn beans purchased from the local farmers market.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 04:57 PM (DjIXP)

175 Chi-town Jerry, the next time you make that pork roast, when you turn it down to 325 throw in some cubed potatoes, chunked carrots, and quartered onions, which have first been tossed in a bit of olive oil or bacon fat. Let them cook right along with the pork.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 04:58 PM (U5tDi)

176 Emmie....apple butter?

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:58 PM (7xXFn)

177 Have you been to Zachary's in Oakland? That's my favorite deep-dish by a large margin.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:43 PM (wYseH)

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Ive heard of it. Everyone mentions it, but one simply does not go to Oakland to eat. One does not go to Oakland.


Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2018 04:58 PM (EZebt)

178 hogmartin, please don't say the word "morel". I start to tremble when I see that word. It's been three years since I had a morel and I think I'd kill for one. They grow here in OK but I'm still looking. And ain't nobody sharing info on where to look.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:55 PM (7xXFn)

This is pine mushroom season in northern British Columbia. Pickers go into the woods for them, and sell them to buyers who set up in towns or along highways. They get exported to Japan for huge $$$. People have gotten into gun fights over them. Me and a friend would be going into the mountains to do mineral prospecting stuff, and we'd get the hairy eyeball from all the mushroom hunters who assumed we were trying to poach on "their" turf.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 04:58 PM (iwUO9)

179 They grow here in OK but I'm still looking. And ain't nobody sharing info on where to look.
Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 04:55 PM (7xXFn)


Sometimes schools and master gardener groups will organize a hunt. At least it's a starting point. And even if twenty people show up and scour the place clean, none of them are going to bother to show up again a week later before dawn and spend three hours waiting in a mushroom blind like you will.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 04:59 PM (y87Qq)

180 I mentioned this a few days ago. I can now beat all the spork jokes with or without involving bluebell. Starting in Elizabethan times plump fruit in a heavy syrup was popular. To eat the dish they used a utensil with a 2 prong fork on one end and a spoon for the syrup on the other. It was called a SUCKET fork, pronounced as you are thinking.

Let the bad jokes begin.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 04:59 PM (V+03K)

181 BTW, I forgot to mention that I've really enjoyed a new roast technique I accidentally stumbled upon when our smoker was acting up.

Apply rub of choice
1 hour in pan at 350
Remove, add beef broth to 1/2 inch depth in pan, cover with foil, return to oven for 3 hours at 300

It's quite juicy and flavorful.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 04:59 PM (X/i2V)

182 Bluebell, it looks like applesauce or pie filling will be the simplest.

We have no garage and I think with the wormholes the apples will not keep very well.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:00 PM (4HMW8)

183 Fall days make me want to bake pies. Apple, typically, but blackberry too.

Posted by: April at October 14, 2018 05:00 PM (OX9vb)

184 Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 04:59 PM (V+03K)
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bluebell has something of a reputation, doesn't she?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:01 PM (MVjcR)

185 We have no garage and I think with the wormholes the apples will not keep very well.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:00 PM (4HMW

Or worse, transport you to Bearded Spock universe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:01 PM (iwUO9)

186
I have questionable morels.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:01 PM (X/i2V)

187 BTW: is it just me, or did Kingsford charcoal turn into fast burning shit in the last few years?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:02 PM (kRSP9)

188 Emmie, depending on what you think you would be doing with them later on, you could always try cutting one up, tossing it with a little lemon juice, then laying the slices flat on a baking sheet and freeze. Then you could see what the texture would be like when they defrost.

I don't think I've ever tried to freeze apples except as apple sauce.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:02 PM (U5tDi)

189 bluebell has something of a reputation, doesn't she?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:01 PM (MVjcR)
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I wonder how that happened.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (U5tDi)

190 I thought we weren't supposed to bring up the *cough* "bow" thing ever again? Since the "great unpleasantness?"
TBH, a lot of these recipes seem very hard to digest if you're not on a polar expedition.

Posted by: plum at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (v89S1)

191 I try to stick to my morels. It's probably why I haven't gotten ahead in life.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (NWiLs)

192 Wife won't eat anything with bones in it. So that means no pork chops, no t-bones, no ribs, and no fried chicken.
Tonight having ribeyes with potatoes corn beans purchased from the local farmers market.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 04:57 PM (DjIXP)


I used to buy boneless meat until I started to become a better cook and noticed that bones improve flavor and the tenderest meat was next to the bone. Plus, I save the bones for bone broth now.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (4HMW8)

193 bluebell has something of a reputation, doesn't she?

Posted by: Weasel



She was a good girl until she hooked up with some creep to edit a cookbook.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (fuK7c)

194 "I was hanging out with a girl at her house a few weeks ago, and went to
grab a beer from her fridge and saw Heinz ketchup and yellow mustard. I
casually asked her why she would own such things, and she said she
occasionally eats hotdogs."
Oh, I thought you were working up to buying Heinz = giving money to John Kerry.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (DjIXP)

195 Rats! I forgot the garlic.

But it's not too late. See, CBD...another beauty of the crock pot.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (7xXFn)

196 I saw Questionable Morels open for the Chanterelles at Cobo Hall in Detroit in '72.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (iwUO9)

197

I wonder how that happened.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (U5tDi)
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I think we're having pizza for dinner!

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:04 PM (MVjcR)

198 Williams Sonoma sometimes has incredible deals on the La Crousette stuff. Last year, at the Cristianna Mall in Delaware (No sales tax) we stumbled across one of their huge oval Dutch Ovens for like $55.00.

You can bet we took that bad boy home with us.

Great for Corned Beef and other such stuff.

And that top picture has my mouth watering for Pot Roast.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:04 PM (cqNba)

199 Creeper, believe it or not, I've never canned anything. I suppose some say I will try.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (4HMW8)

200 I saw Questionable Morels open for the Chanterelles at Cobo Hall in Detroit in '72.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (iwUO9)

*clap

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (If3tB)

201 FWIW, I have a Kitchen Aid multi cooker - it has a quasi slow cooker function, so it lets me sear the meat then add everything else and switch it to slow mode.

It works pretty well. But at a price point that makes a Le Creuset mighty attractive.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (9fowx)

202 I think we're having pizza for dinner!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:04 PM (MVjcR)
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Nice non sequitur.

Guess what kind of apples came to the farmer's market this week.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (U5tDi)

203

She was a good girl until she hooked up with some creep to edit a cookbook.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (fuK7c)
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What do you expect from a guy on the internet calling himself 'weasel'? Could there be any more warning signs?

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (MVjcR)

204 Oh, I thought you were working up to buying Heinz = giving money to John Kerry.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (DjIXP)

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Not so much anymore. Teresa's kids have been selling stuff out from under Kerry ever since she had a stroke.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (I16G8)

205 I saw Questionable Morels open for the Chanterelles at Cobo Hall in Detroit in '72.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (iwUO9)


There used to be a good pizza place around the corner from there.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:06 PM (y87Qq)

206 202 I think we're having pizza for dinner!
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:04 PM (MVjcR)
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Nice non sequitur.

Guess what kind of apples came to the farmer's market this week.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (U5tDi)
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World's Best Staymans??

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:06 PM (MVjcR)

207 I had spaghetti but just remembered Dana Loesch said not to get or use dried parmesan in those jars, it's half filler. Oh well.

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:06 PM (T4oHT)

208 Also Heinz was a Republican. Kerry got GOP sloppy seconds.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:07 PM (fuK7c)

209 I think I may have posted it her a few weeks ago.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 14, 2018 04:49 PM (wYseH)

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i only read the comments here...


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:07 PM (kRSP9)

210 Oh, I thought you were working up to buying Heinz = giving money to John Kerry.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:03 PM (DjIXP)

No, just that I judge people's character and fitness to be in my personal universe by whether or not they put ketchup on hotdogs.

Frankly, just owning ketchup is usually a good warning sign for me.

And yellow mustard? Why does that even exist? There are so many awesome mustards in the world.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:07 PM (GBteo)

211 I don't think I've ever tried to freeze apples except as apple sauce.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:02 PM (U5tDi)


Yeah, I've had success with that in the past. I'm just trying to figure out what will be the easiest. I do have a food mill, so applesauce shouldn't be too much of a hassle.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:07 PM (4HMW8)

212 What do you expect from a guy on the internet calling himself 'weasel'? Could there be any more warning signs?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (MVjcR)


"My hobbies are felling trees with submachine guns and... well mostly just that one."

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (y87Qq)

213 Guess what kind of apples came to the farmer's market this week.





Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (U5tDi)

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ripe ones?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (kRSP9)

214 bluebell has something of a reputation, doesn't she?
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:01 PM


You refer to her reputation of a genial nature, with a touch of asperity induced by Red Sox fandom?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (DMUuz)

215 World's Best Staymans??
Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:06 PM (MVjcR)
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Yeppers. I got a bushel of them, with some Winesaps and Evercrisps mixed in. Evercrisp was new to me - he said it was a mix of Fuji and Honeycrisp.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (U5tDi)

216 We use straight up cast iron pots and frying pans, if started right they are pretty resistant.

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (T4oHT)

217 BTW: is it just me, or did Kingsford charcoal turn into fast burning shit in the last few years?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:02 PM (kRSP9)

Not only fast burning, but low temp too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (0GuIv)

218 "And yellow mustard? Why does that even exist?"

To dip the microwave corn dogs in.


Everyone knows this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:09 PM (cqNba)

219 >>>Does anyone know a super-simple way to process these apples for future use?<<<

Do you like venison? A simple way to add value to a surplus of apples, at least on my brother's property, is to let the migrating deer get drunk, stumbly and fat on fermented apples. Harvesting delicious deer meat has never been more efficient or humane.

Posted by: Fritz at October 14, 2018 05:09 PM (Z9C5C)

220 Ketchup is necessary for hamburgers and cheese steaks.

There is no excuse for yellow mustard.

It is known.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:09 PM (fuK7c)

221 To CBD: What in your opinion are the pros and cons of an enameled cast iron pot vs just a plain cast iron pot?

Thank you.

Posted by: Taco Shack at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (tpFVI)

222 I have been curing and smoking my own bacon for several years now. It's actually pretty easy. The only tricky thing is you need curing salt (Prague Powder and Instacure are available from Amazon.) I have tried several recipes, but the best and easiest is Meathead Goldwyn's. Make the brine; soak the pork belly in it in zip bag for 3-5 days. Smoke or bake at 225 F to an internal temp of 150. Cool and slice. So much better than commercial bacon and much less expensive if you can buy your pork bellies right.

And if you have unevenly sized pork bellies, you can trim the edges and use them to make your own salt pork. Which I agree is a completely different flavor (not smoked) and a delicious addition to recipes (greens, Italian sauces).

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (S+f+m)

223 Anybody ever come across Nittany Apples?


Wegman's used to carry them.

But not recently.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (cqNba)

224 And yellow mustard? Why does that even exist? There are so many awesome mustards in the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:07 PM (GBteo)


Yellow mustard is OK on hot pretzels and with mayo on frozen breaded chicken pucks.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (y87Qq)

225 Yellow mustard exists for kids.

re: Boneless meat. "The closer the bone, the sweeter the meat." my dad

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (7xXFn)

226 164
It works well. It's not like anyone can really tell, it doesn't taste like bacon, but it makes for a good cookie.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 04:53 PM (izrAO)
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Nope, nope, nope! I can tell, believe me.

No cookie outside the butter! No cookie against the butter! All butter within the cookie!

Posted by: Margarita, butter fascist at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (Rxduq)

227 ""My hobbies are felling trees with submachine guns and... well mostly just that one."

Posted by: hogmartin"

I shot a pine tree with a 30-06 so many times that it fell over. It wasn't a small tree either. (Target was stapled to the tree)

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (DjIXP)

228
Ketchup is necessary for hamburgers and cheese steaks.



There is no excuse for yellow mustard.



It is known.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:09 PM (fuK7c)


I'll put yellow mustard on a hot dog along with the ketchup. I did it at Fenway.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (tT986)

229 Well, off to make stew with some meat that needed more time on the grill last night.

Then it's homework time. This class is tough -- it's math, but the only thing we use numbers for is as subscripts to keep all the other symbols distinct from each other.

Posted by: Emmie at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (4HMW8)

230 We use straight up cast iron pots and frying pans, if started right they are pretty resistant.
Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (T4oHT)
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I just bought a cast-iron pizza pan and tried it out on Friday night. It made the bottom of the pizza nice and crispy. I have an ancient cast-iron frying pan that I love, but the problem is that it's too small.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (U5tDi)

231

Yeppers. I got a bushel of them, with some Winesaps and Evercrisps mixed in. Evercrisp was new to me - he said it was a mix of Fuji and Honeycrisp.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (U5tDi)
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I thought about planting a couple of apple trees at WA, but it turns out they require care. And care = work.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (MVjcR)

232 Mmmm, bacon.

Recipe printed and will be tried at Che Blake.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (WEBkv)

233 "Ketchup is necessary for hamburgers and cheese steaks. "

Ketchup on Cheesesteaks???


Da Fuqua.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (cqNba)

234 Emmie.....if your using a food mill, which we do. I don't even bother to core. Cut out the brown spots, quarter and put in.....yes.....a Le Creuset with a cup of juice.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 05:12 PM (FA9Ig)

235 Ketchup is completely UNnecessary for hamburgers.

Ketchup is good on....well... nothing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:12 PM (0GuIv)

236 "I'll put yellow mustard on a hot dog along with the ketchup."

We will allow this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (cqNba)

237 Not only fast burning, but low temp too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (0GuIv)

Speaking of charcoal, avoid at all costs Royal Oak "All Natural Non-Petroleum" charcoal lighter fluid. The stuff smells like an open grave, and I think it's just bio-diesel. About which there is nothing natural, seeing as it made from plant or animal fats modified by caustic potash and methanol.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (iwUO9)

238 Yellow mustard has a use coating large cuts of meat before rubbing and smoking.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (DMUuz)

239 I'll put yellow mustard on a hot dog along with the ketchup. I did it at Fenway.

Posted by: Vendette



And there you are, one of my favorite girls in the world, provoking me.

Actually, this implicates the time, place, and manner clause.

Anything eaten at Fenway is indescribably delicious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (fuK7c)

240 Anybody ever come across Nittany Apples?


Wegman's used to carry them.

But not recently.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (cqNba)
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I have! The orchard I buy from at my farmer's market has them. I think they have something like 35 varieties.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (U5tDi)

241 I just bought a cast-iron pizza pan and tried it out on Friday night. It made the bottom of the pizza nice and crispy. I have an ancient cast-iron frying pan that I love, but the problem is that it's too small.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (U5tDi)

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Pizza stones work well for this too. 15 minutes at temp in the oven before use.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (I16G8)

242 207 I had spaghetti but just remembered Dana Loesch said not to get or use dried parmesan in those jars, it's half filler. Oh well.
Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:06 PM (T4oHT)

There must be some crazy modern marvel technology at work to keep the cheese from all reclumping together in those plastic container things.

I have never looked up how it works, but just knowing that cheese does not do that naturally has kept me away from using that stuff.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (GBteo)

243 Anybody ever come across Nittany Apples?
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We went up to the not-quite-Asheville area a couple of weeks ago and bought some of those. Also Jona Prince and Winesap, both of which were nice, but my favorite from this trip was some type of Japanese name. Hishiku or something?

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (X/i2V)

244
I'll put yellow mustard on a hot dog along with the ketchup. I did it at Fenway.
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (tT986)
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yeller mustard and catsup on hotdogs. Chili, cheese and onions too sometimes. Hotdogs area staple at the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

245 238 Yellow mustard has a use coating large cuts of meat before rubbing and smoking.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (DMUuz)

types
deletes
types
deletes

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM (GBteo)

246 off to yard chores and drink canoe sex beer...

BIAB, or the gub thread, whichever comes First!

and thanks for the jerky tips... keep'em coming por flavor!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM (kRSP9)

247 Cast iron skillets. They are the hardest working assets in my kitchen. The oldest a No. 12, belonged to my grandmother and she received it as a wedding gift in 1931.

Posted by: Bama at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM (ar81i)

248 "Yellow mustard is OK on hot pretzels"

How in the hell did I forget about that one.



Yellow, and only yellow mustard for the pretzel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:15 PM (cqNba)

249 Yellow mustard also makes a great sloppy joe.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:15 PM (X/i2V)

250 types

deletes

types

deletes

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM (GBteo)

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says the guy who'd never had good Que made that way.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:15 PM (kRSP9)

251 I got a bag of Granny Smith apples down in Henderson County yesterday. Have to figure out exactly what I'm gonna make with them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:15 PM (DjIXP)

252 235 Ketchup is completely UNnecessary for hamburgers.

Ketchup is good on....well... nothing.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:12 PM (0GuIv)

I agree. If I were the God-Emperor, I would ban the sale, use, or manufacturing of ketchup and yellow mustard.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:16 PM (GBteo)

253
Wasn't Betty White married to Alan Luddite?

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 05:16 PM (/9p9e)

254 Weasel, we had a few fruit trees here chez bluebell when we first moved in. The squirrels would get every single thing before it even got close to being ripe. I think we had apples, peaches, and plums. Or rather, we were supposed to have them, but never did.

My sister-in-law had a small pear tree, and a squirrel would take every pear off that tree, take one bit, then leave it in a planter on her deck. I saw him (I'm sure it was a him) take the last one and do it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:16 PM (U5tDi)

255 Bluebell

General location of the Farmers Market?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (cqNba)

256 "We went up to the not-quite-Asheville area a couple of weeks ago and bought some of those."

Oh, did you visit Henderson County too?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (DjIXP)

257 and thanks for the jerky tips... keep'em coming por flavor!
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 05:14 PM


Manatee jerky was discussed a couple of threads before this one.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (DMUuz)

258 That does it. My stomach is growling so loudly you must be able to hear it. Off to the kitchen to do some damage to those mushrooms.

Posted by: creeper at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (7xXFn)

259 Speaking of charcoal, avoid at all costs Royal Oak "All Natural Non-Petroleum" charcoal lighter fluid. The stuff smells like an open grave, and I think it's just bio-diesel. About which there is nothing natural, seeing as it made from plant or animal fats modified by caustic potash and methanol.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (iwUO9)

A charcoal chimney is your friend. You just don't know it yet.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (If3tB)

260
Chi-town Jerry, the next time you make that pork roast, when you turn it
down to 325 throw in some cubed potatoes, chunked carrots, and
quartered onions, which have first been tossed in a bit of olive oil or
bacon fat. Let them cook right along with the pork.





Posted by: bluebell
............
I did exactly that! Yummo

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (438dO)

261
Ketchup is essential for Russian dressing. You need it to collude with the mayo...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2018 05:18 PM (/9p9e)

262 >>>And yellow mustard? Why does that even exist? There are so many awesome mustards in the world.

Oh I get it. You're one of those snobs who asks for grey poupon. There's nothing wrong with yellow mustard. Sometimes, I eat it raw. You can't do that with other mustards.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 05:18 PM (/qEW2)

263 Yeah, getting hungry here too.

I'm making ramen. Seared steak and shrimp in there too, with snap peas, carrots, and sriracha.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:18 PM (9fowx)

264 "I agree. If I were the God-Emperor, I would ban the sale, use, or manufacturing of ketchup and yellow mustard."

How is this even possible?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:18 PM (cqNba)

265 Pizza stones work well for this too. 15 minutes at temp in the oven before use.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (I16G
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I have two of them, and I have terrible luck with them. I think it's because with the size of my family, I need to make the pizzas big, and it's a hot mess trying to get it off the peel.

With the cast iron I was able to form the pizza on the cold pan, add the toppings, and then bake, and got a great crust. I'm sold!

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (U5tDi)

266 and a squirrel would take every pear off that tree, take one bit, then leave it in a planter on her deck.


Dear Weasel,

A bluebell needs assistance. Please deliver to her one pump action BB gun and rudimentary instructions.

With kind regards,

The Authorities

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (fuK7c)

267 A charcoal chimney is your friend. You just don't know it yet.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (If3tB)

Oxy-acetylene torch FTW!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (iwUO9)

268 Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:16 PM (U5tDi)
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Hmmmmm.... crop losses are probably deductible....

Posted by: Weasel at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (MVjcR)

269 Cowboy lump charcoal sucks bigly, too. Avoid.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (DMUuz)

270
Oh, did you visit Henderson County too?


Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (DjIXP)


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Yessir. We try to go to Grandads at least twice during the season. First for honeycrisp and the second just because.

We were told to visit Bullington Gardens while we were there, too, and it was well worth the short drive over.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (X/i2V)

271 It is more accurately call "Tomato Pie,"

+++

That's not a tomato pie. Tomato Pie is native to Utica NY

food52.com/recipes/77024-tomato-pie-a-utica-ny-classic

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (z2W2E)

272 As for all of the ketchup snobs out there, Ketchup='Merica

Haters.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (WEBkv)

273 Anybody ever come across Nittany Apples?


Wegman's used to carry them.

But not recently.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:10 PM (cqNba)


Obama calls them his Nittaly apples

Posted by: LASue at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (Z48ZB)

274 Cheap yellow mustard has its uses. It is perfect for dogs and burgers. "Just give me sumpin' I'm used to"; I like fancy mustards too. I like the Germans method, it is sold in tubes, like toothpaste. Thomy Scharfer Senf, is awesome stuff.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (izrAO)

275 I have a request for help from the Horde. We may have to replace our outdoor drop-in propane grill and I'd love to hear of any brands that you've had good (or bad) experiences with. My research so far had been frustrating because each time I find a brand that looks good, I then find a sizeable number of bad reviews for it.

FWIW, the existing grill is a Grandhall, which is a discontinued brand. Our first choice would be to repair or rebuild this grill, but repair parts are largely unavailable. Husband says the problem lies in the thermocouples, but at yet he's been unable to figure out how to get them working again. If anyone knows anything about grill guts, that would be awesome, too.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (S+f+m)

276 You like Sweet & Sour Sauce with your Chinese food?

Then y'oughta be okay with ketchup n' yella mustard on a basic, All 'Murricun Hawt Dawg at the pic'nic or ballpark.

Admittedly, one can improve the hot dog, the bun, select finer grades of mustard and even select from a myriad of less-sweet and more flavorful ketchups.

You can go all the way up the pretentious, snobbie foodie chain to the point of outright mockery and ridiculousness.

Be my guest.

But that basic o'l dawg n' condiments, is the kind of "back to my yoot" kind of comfort food, that while not suited to a mature, complex, sophisticated palate, is just damn fine for a carefree bite and a smile.

Lighten up, all you francises.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 14, 2018 05:20 PM (QzJWU)

277 Oh I get it. You're one of those snobs who asks for grey poupon. There's nothing wrong with yellow mustard. Sometimes, I eat it raw. You can't do that with other mustards.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 14, 2018 05:18 PM (/qEW2)

I'm more in to the various whole grain or stone ground mustards... and I'm exaggerating a little here, but I really don't get yellow mustard.

Mustard is probably the best condiment in the world (although hot sauce has its place too), why would you get the lamest version of it when there are so many better options out there?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:20 PM (GBteo)

278 >>> 230 We use straight up cast iron pots and frying pans, if started right they are pretty resistant.
Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:08 PM (T4oHT)
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I just bought a cast-iron pizza pan and tried it out on Friday night. It made the bottom of the pizza nice and crispy. I have an ancient cast-iron frying pan that I love, but the problem is that it's too small.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:11 PM (U5tDi)

I've been tempted to get a cast-iron pizza pan, but I have no idea where I'd put it. I do have a nice 12-inch pan.... wonder how well a little olive oil plus bacon grease would do for a pan pizza crust?

Re. charcoal, Trader Joe's burns pretty hot. The wood can be very sparky though.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 05:20 PM (0ReGO)

279 General location of the Farmers Market?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:17 PM (cqNba)
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Next town over from me, in NW Fairfax County, which means way far from you. But, if you're coming my way on a Thursday in the next few weeks, I'll give you exact directions!

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:20 PM (U5tDi)

280 BTW should say that recipe is wrong. Key to a good tomato pie is letting the panned dough rise before saucing

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 14, 2018 05:21 PM (z2W2E)

281 Dear Weasel,
A bluebell needs assistance. Please deliver to her one pump action BB gun and rudimentary instructions.

With kind regards,

The Authorities
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM


Daisy is issuing a limited-edition adult-sized Red Ryder BB gun in time for Christmas this year.

That and a Leg lamp would be an excellent pairing for your esteemed co-editor!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (DMUuz)

282 Tried an interesting experiment for breakfast today. I took one of the Amazing T. Kids out for Indian food a couple of days ago, and we came home with a container of leftover vindaloo . . . which turned out to be entirely sauce, no meat left.

I had the brilliant idea of putting the leftover sauce in ramekins and then baking eggs in it. (Let the ramekins of sauce heat up as the oven preheats to 350, and when it starts bubbling, put an egg in each. Bake about 15 minutes.)

That was GOOD. Very very spicy, but eggs in a spicy sauce are always good. I've seen jars of Vindaloo sauce on the shelf at the Asian supermarket near here; maybe I should pick some up to use for brunch.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (jAilV)

283 "Next town over from me, in NW Fairfax County, which means way far from you. But, if you're coming my way on a Thursday in the next few weeks, I'll give you exact directions! "

I think we may have to pass.

Unfortunately.



Dammit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (cqNba)

284 I find that my forge will sear meat nicely in .0025 seconds,

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (tEVlJ)

285 We leave for Italia on Thursday. Yea! Come this time Friday, I will be sitting canal side in Venice sipping some fine Italian wine and devouring some fine Italian food.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (FA9Ig)

286 "Yessir. We try to go to Grandads at least twice during the season. First for honeycrisp and the second just because.

We were told to visit Bullington Gardens while we were there, too, and it was well worth the short drive over.


Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends"


We took our boy to Graddad's. He likes to jump on the air bladder they have there. It was an absolute madhouse this weekend. Line of cars waiting to turn left was about 1/2 mile long.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (DjIXP)

287 Wow, for people who extol freedom of choice and association, there sure are some condiment absolutists here.

Don't get any stone-ground poofter mustard on your Hugo Boss uniforms!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM (kQs4Y)

288 Anyone here remember during the 2004 election when W Ketchup was sold as an alternative to Heinz?

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM (tT986)

289 Husband says the problem lies in the thermocouples, but at yet he's been unable to figure out how to get them working again.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (S+f+m)

Thermocouplers are pretty generic, I would think.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM (If3tB)

290 "We leave for Italia on Thursday. Yea! Come this time
Friday, I will be sitting canal side in Venice sipping some fine
Italian wine and devouring some fine Italian food.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow"

Take something to stuff in your nose when you're not eating.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:24 PM (DjIXP)

291 As slow cookers go. The instapot is a beast. Timed slow cooking. Low temp. High temp. Pressure cooking. Rice cooker. Brown in the pot. Steamer. All around good tool. Check it out... It is that flexible.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at October 14, 2018 05:24 PM (0OmEj)

292 You'll put your eye out!

Posted by: Common Tater at October 14, 2018 05:24 PM (izrAO)

293 285 We leave for Italia on Thursday. Yea! Come this time Friday, I will be sitting canal side in Venice sipping some fine Italian wine and devouring some fine Italian food.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (FA9Ig)
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The envy of others makes the best sauce.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:24 PM (kQs4Y)

294 Pizza stones work well for this too. 15 minutes at temp in the oven before use.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (I16G
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I have two of them, and I have terrible luck with them. I think it's because with the size of my family, I need to make the pizzas big, and it's a hot mess trying to get it off the peel.

With the cast iron I was able to form the pizza on the cold pan, add the toppings, and then bake, and got a great crust. I'm sold!
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:19 PM (U5tDi)

Pizza STEELS are the deal now.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:25 PM (If3tB)

295 Don't get any stone-ground poofter mustard on your Hugo Boss uniforms!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM (kQs4Y)

I will do my best!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:25 PM (GBteo)

296 Ketchup is essential for Russian dressing. You need it to collude with the mayo...

Meh. I'm gonna gonna go with Sriracha mixed with mayo if I need something like that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:25 PM (0GuIv)

297 Wow, for people who extol freedom of choice and association, there sure are some condiment absolutists here.

Don't get any stone-ground poofter mustard on your Hugo Boss uniforms!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM

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Yeah, this. I don't care how others like their food accessorized, I don't have to eat it. Just don't tell me how to take mine.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (I16G8)

298 Any Las Vegas Morons? I am being treated to Momofuku during a visit there. Should I be flattered?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (9fowx)

299 Squirrel death star:

https://www.crosman.com/airguns/benjamin-airguns/benjamin-392

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (iwUO9)

300 "Oh I get it. You're one of those snobs who asks for grey poupon."

Back a long time ago, in my first real band, I wrote a punk song we played that was called "High Class Mustard". It was pretty funny.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (DjIXP)

301 I have one antique cast iron skillet. It belonged to my great great grandmother who came to this country circa 1885. Family legend says she got it soon after arriving. I inherited it from my grandparents. My sister got the smaller one. Still does the job.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 05:27 PM (V+03K)

302 I used to use my enameled iron Dutch oven all the time when we had a gas stove. But I found heat regulation iffy when we got stuck with electric.

At some point it occurred to me that I didn't have to use the Dutch oven on the stove-top for the long, slow cooking part, so now I just put it in the oven at a low temperature.

Doesn't help our electric bill, I'm sure, but .......

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 05:27 PM (Rxduq)

303 We have a large pizza stone, use it for pizza,, stromboli, bread

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 05:27 PM (T4oHT)

304 297: about time.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 14, 2018 05:27 PM (KP5rU)

305 Yeah, this. I don't care how others like their food accessorized, I don't have to eat it. Just don't tell me how to take mine.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (I16G

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You'll eat what we recommend and like it!

Posted by: Michelle O - food cop at October 14, 2018 05:28 PM (WEBkv)

306 297. Yeah, this. I don't care how others like their food accessorized, I don't have to eat it. Just don't tell me how to take mine.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
**
And that's precisely the sort of moral myopia that has brought us to this present crisis and decline.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (fA1SL)

307 "I will never understand the allure of boneless pork loin."

Dice into 1" cubes. Sear in instapot. Add tomatillos, onions, jalapenos, garlic, and the very best flavoring stock: 1 qt of Tears of Yankees Fans.

Posted by: dd at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (V2W/Q)

308 Anyone here remember during the 2004 election when W Ketchup was sold as an alternative to Heinz?
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:23 PM (tT986)

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No, but a friend of mine who owns 2 restaurants switched from Heinz to Hunt's at that time over the election.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (I16G8)

309 condiment snobs.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (KP5rU)

310 hogmartin, please don't say the word "morel".



Morel! Slowly I turn ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (yQpMk)

311 Garden and Gun. Been a fan for years.

+10

Much less PC than Southern Living.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 14, 2018 05:29 PM (iiixZ)

312 /off linebacker sock.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 05:30 PM (WEBkv)

313 Been cooking roasts in Dutch ovens for years now - reminds me of Mom's cooking. Threw a rutabaga in the mix today at the suggestion of a neighbor. I have no idea what a rutabaga actually is - dinner in 2 hours so we will see.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 14, 2018 05:31 PM (xceTB)

314 I just bought a cast-iron pizza pan and tried it out on Friday night. It
made the bottom of the pizza nice and crispy. I have an ancient
cast-iron frying pan that I love, but the problem is that it's too
small.

*****

Love my pizza stone

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (h1jJh)

315 Blanched and skinned tomatillos, sautee'd garlic, habaneros and avocados, pureed with a little lime juice makes a pretty bitchin sauce for carnitas. Just sayin.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (0GuIv)

316 298 Any Las Vegas Morons? I am being treated to Momofuku during a visit there. Should I be flattered?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (9fowx)
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Until they ask to be paid up front.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (kQs4Y)

317 If you're going to Italy and have a car, be sure not to miss the smaller towns around Venice. Not quite as overwhelmed by visitors. Ravenna, in particular, is worth a trip all by itself.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (jAilV)

318 I like the Zatarain's brown mustard that looks like barely crushed seeds in oil.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (yQpMk)

319 *waves at wds and Emmie and other CO Morons*

Yesterday I bbq'd steak and had green beans from the backyard on the side.

Today will be chili and cornbread baked with bacon grease smeared on the cast iron.

Gotta love CO...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 05:32 PM (0ReGO)

320 278 ... "I've been tempted to get a cast-iron pizza pan, but I have no idea where I'd put it. I do have a nice 12-inch pan.... wonder how well a little olive oil plus bacon grease would do for a pan pizza crust?"

Helena, Mrs. JTB has done just that with a 12 inch cast iron skillet. A little oil on the bottom and corm meal and it crisped up the crust and slipped out of the pan easily.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (V+03K)

321 Daisy is issuing a limited-edition adult-sized Red Ryder BB gun in time for Christmas this year.

That and a Leg lamp would be an excellent pairing for your esteemed co-editor!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2018 05:22 PM (DMUuz)
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Believe it or not, we have the BB gun already (my husband keeps it by the back door to get rid of the noisy woodpeckers) and a leg lamp nightlight which is in our boys' bathroom.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (U5tDi)

322 Ribs are wrapped in foil for 5 hour slow cook. Will finish 45 min at high temp with sauce. It will let me glase some carrots. Dinner tonight will be good.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (0OmEj)

323 Meh. I'm gonna gonna go with Sriracha mixed with mayo if I need something like that.


Uh huh. Had you heard of sriracha five years ago?

Do you remember Grandmama's sriracha sauce? Do you even know what language group starts words with "sr"?

Sriracha is one of those weird things like chipotle that just appeared out of no context and has fucked up spelling so everyone just assumes it's hip.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:34 PM (fuK7c)

324 Helena Handbasket, did you get my latest email?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 05:34 PM (tEVlJ)

325 Helena, I have a narrow bottom cabinet where I keep all my cookie pans. I keep my pizza pan there, stored upright.

Does your oven have a drawer to store the broiler pan? Maybe it would fit in there.

WDS, have a wonderful time in Italy! Lucky you. Eat enough for all of us, okay?

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:35 PM (U5tDi)

326 I agree. If I were the God-Emperor, I would ban the sale, use, or manufacturing of ketchup and yellow mustard.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 14, 2018 05:16 PM (GBteo)


and Historians to this day, are still baffled by the spontaneous revolution that over threw the God Emperor, and his entire Government.

Posted by: Future History 101 at October 14, 2018 05:36 PM (NgKpN)

327 >>and a leg lamp nightlight which is in our boys' bathroom.

I have one on my desk. It's inspiring.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2018 05:36 PM (/tuJf)

328 I haven't used my pizza stone for its intended purpose in ages. I just keep it in the oven as a heat capacitor because the oven is so awful. It'll swing tens of degrees to either side of the set temperature even without opening the door, so having the stone in there during the preheat stabilizes it. It *mumble* the hysteresis of the *mumble*.

*pause, stammer*

I think it's to do with all the maths they put in it.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:36 PM (y87Qq)

329 Come to think of it, I believe my favorite meat loaf recipe involves a cup or two of both ketchup and mustard.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (7gJxk)

330 75 and sunny outside...

Ribeyes just started marinating...


Still BBQ weather here.

Posted by: Don Q at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (NgKpN)

331 I have one on my desk. It's inspiring.




Electric Sex.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (yQpMk)

332 a leg lamp nightlight which is in our boys' bathroom.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (U5tDi)


In the outlet by the light switch?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (y87Qq)

333 Pizza STEELS are the deal now.
Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 05:25 PM (If3tB)
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Yes, I've seen that, but don't you have to preheat those too? I am a complete bumbler when it comes to getting the pizza off the peel onto the stone/steel, probably because I make them too big. I know I could make them on parchment and slide that on, but on the whole I'm happier with the cast iron. Plus I can use it on the grill too, or at least it said so on the label.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:38 PM (U5tDi)

334 Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:34 PM (fuK7c)

It's been around a long time. Most people I know called it rooster sauce, cuz we didn't know how to pronounce it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 14, 2018 05:38 PM (PoSHe)

335 Uh huh. Had you heard of sriracha five years ago?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:34 PM (fuK7c)

I discovered it in the early 80s on my first Westpac when we stopped in Phuket. I don't remember if it was called Sriracha, but I do remember it was the stuff that made the grilled yard bird from the street vendor the best meal in town.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 05:39 PM (0GuIv)

336
(browned them, then cooked them in some over-hoppy IPA I had).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 04:03 PM (kQs4Y)








In other words, 98% of the IPAs on the shelf.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (eXA4G)

337 > I have no idea what a rutabaga actually is

Is da Swedish turnip, ja!

Posted by: dd at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (V2W/Q)

338 We took our boy to Graddad's. He likes to jump on
the air bladder they have there. It was an absolute madhouse this
weekend. Line of cars waiting to turn left was about 1/2 mile long.

---

Ha. Yeah, the extra stuff certainly has an appeal. We first went there when our kids were itty bitty and they had the goats and maybe a corn maze, but they've really done well for themselves. I'm glad, too. I don't know them other than in passing but the owners always seem like decent, down to earth folks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (7gJxk)

339 In the outlet by the light switch?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (y87Qq)
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Yes, but this way they don't have to turn on the hall light or even the bathroom light so they won't stumble into the things they've left in the hallway.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (U5tDi)

340 329 Come to think of it, I believe my favorite meat loaf recipe involves a cup or two of both ketchup and mustard.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:37 PM (7gJxk)
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Relative gave us a bottle of Harry and David Pepper and Onion relish, which we put on top of our meatloaf.

Wow.

Stuff's really expensive, though, so, best to see if one can get someone else to buy it for you.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (WEBkv)

341 Okay, I can pretty much bake pumpkin bread in my sleep now.

I've lost count of how many loaves I've made this month for a church thing...

I'm getting a lot of repeat customers with this recipe:

https://tinyurl.com/yb9yr79r

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 14, 2018 05:41 PM (wSGZR)

342 Uh huh. Had you heard of sriracha five years ago?

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I discovered it in the early 80s on my first Westpac when we stopped in Phuket.

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This is why I come here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 05:41 PM (7gJxk)

343 Mary at October 14, 2018 04:25 PM (Lr8+C)

Salt pork - YES!

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 14, 2018 05:41 PM (u5LFV)

344 I have one on my desk. It's inspiring.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2018 05:36 PM (/tuJf)
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I'm sure it is. I don't want to know what it inspires.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:41 PM (U5tDi)

345 Dutch ovens. Used them always when out on my son's Boy Scout camping trips. They came in so handy for meals. Especially, for desserts which were apple and peach cobblers. Great for making beef stews and my wife makes a lasagna in it.

Posted by: morigu at October 14, 2018 05:41 PM (N/con)

346 328
I haven't used my pizza stone for its intended purpose in ages. I just
keep it in the oven as a heat capacitor because the oven is so awful.
It'll swing tens of degrees to either side of the set temperature even
without opening the door, so having the stone in there during the
preheat stabilizes it. It *mumble* the hysteresis of the *mumble*.



*pause, stammer*



I think it's to do with all the maths they put in it.

*****

Yep, my pizza stone had to take a differential equations class and thermodynamics [yes I'm an engineer....shut up]

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 14, 2018 05:42 PM (h1jJh)

347 Thanks Tri! We will not have a car but I do think my sil has looked into Ravenna.

Bluebell, luckily with all the walking you do I can eat enough for all of you!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 14, 2018 05:42 PM (FA9Ig)

348 298 Any Las Vegas Morons? I am being treated to Momofuku during a visit there. Should I be flattered?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:26 PM (9fowx)
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Why, yes! Supposed to be great ramen dishes there.

Now, if it were mofongo, ......

(Just kidding about the mofongo, which is wonderful when done right. And incidentally, that is one dish where you HAVE to use salt pork and mix in the cracklings. Bacon doesn't impart the right flavor, IMO.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 05:42 PM (Rxduq)

349 >>having the stone in there during the preheat stabilizes it

And then you take it out? Or leave it while baking the food?

Posted by: Mama AJ, owner of a crappy old electric oven at October 14, 2018 05:42 PM (wSGZR)

350 Believe it or not, we have the BB gun already
(my husband keeps it by the back door to get rid of the noisy
woodpeckers) and a leg lamp nightlight which is in our boys' bathroom.





Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (U5tDi)


*Takes a peek at Amazon*

Yes, that nightlight does exist!

The Legend of Bluebell grows...

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (tT986)

351 Uh huh. Had you heard of sriracha five years ago?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:34 PM (fuK7c)
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Jeebus, we had it in Hawaii ages ago. It was great on saimin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (kQs4Y)

352
330 75 and sunny outside...

Ribeyes just started marinating...


Still BBQ weather here.

Posted by: Don Q




Aren't you in California?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (GiDKn)

353 Stuff's really expensive, though, so, best to see if one can get someone else to buy it for you.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 05:40 PM (WEBkv)
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Or do what I do - look for recipes online to make your own. I do that a lot when I have something good in a restaurant, or it just occurs to me finally to make something myself that I usually buy, like pickled banana peppers which my boys love.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (U5tDi)

354
Is Sriracha the new Cilantro?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:44 PM (GiDKn)

355 (32 Maybe that's what my oven needs. A big stone heat stabilizer with a few embedded thermocouples.

Posted by: klaftern at October 14, 2018 05:44 PM (RuIsu)

356 OT, but I just finished putting the rest of the spring bulbs in the ground. Before the dirt was even flattened, the bastard squirrels were casing the joint.

Out bb gun. Little fuckers

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 14, 2018 05:44 PM (PkVlr)

357 >>> 320
.....
Helena, Mrs. JTB has done just that with a 12 inch cast iron skillet. A little oil on the bottom and corm meal and it crisped up the crust and slipped out of the pan easily.
Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 05:33 PM (V+03K)

Right, cornmeal is great for pizza / calzone crust! Adding that to the grocery list.


Hey Ben! I did get it ... in my junk folder. That didn't happen before. *curses Microsquish mail* Replying now.


Bluebell, I have a little pantry closet in my kitchen but it's already full of other vertical things. The rack are from one of those office stores... one for manila folders works for cookie sheets, cutting board, racks etc, and two book racks for baking / roasting dishes. Maybe I should check for items I don't use very often...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 05:44 PM (0ReGO)

358 I'm thinking of getting one of those pizza ovens for the grill.
It is basically a steel container to trap in the heat with a pizza stone at the bottom. They say you can get the temp up to over 700 degrees if you let it heat up.. bubbly Neapolitan pizzas in 6 minutes..
of course.. that one pizza at a time..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 14, 2018 05:45 PM (438dO)

359 354. Ask the Vietnamese - they'll tell you it's ketchup.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:45 PM (fA1SL)

360 Jeebus, we had it in Hawaii ages ago. It was great on saimin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes



*narrows eyes*

Hipster!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:45 PM (fuK7c)

361 Yes, that nightlight does exist!

The Legend of Bluebell grows...
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (tT986)
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That movie is a family favorite. We watch it every year at Christmas. We actually stopped at the Christmas Story House in Cleveland one year on our way out west. I have pictures of my kids sitting in the cupboard under the sink like Randy.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:46 PM (U5tDi)

362 As to yellow mustard, some of us don't have a choice. I love the taste of brown mustard but these days it doesn't sit well for me. Anything more than the slightest smear gives me serious heartburn. Bummer!

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2018 05:47 PM (V+03K)

363 And then you take it out? Or leave it while baking the food?
Posted by: Mama AJ, owner of a crappy old electric oven at October 14, 2018 05:42 PM (wSGZR)


I keep it on the bottom rack (all the way at the lowest bracket) and keep it in there the whole time. Whatever goes in the oven is on the top rack, which can go on any other bracket. That way it absorbs heat during the preheat and when the oven switches off it keeps a more constant temperature near the food while it's drifting back to it's 'on' threshold.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:47 PM (y87Qq)

364 Hipster!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:45 PM (fuK7c)

Swamp trash!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:47 PM (kQs4Y)

365 So what's a saimin?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:48 PM (fuK7c)

366
How fake is Fake TV?

Before a single episode was aired, ABC was promoting its stupid new tv series about lost-and-found airliner passengers "The #1 New Show."

CBS promotes its series as "TV's #1 Comedy!" and "The Most Watched Drama!"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:49 PM (GiDKn)

367 365. Saimin is the effort of veak, effeminate Hawaiian to approach the perfection of pho.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:49 PM (fA1SL)

368
They made a spinoff of Big Bang Theory??
The promos are awful.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:50 PM (GiDKn)

369 So what's a saimin?


$20. Same as in town.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 05:50 PM (yQpMk)

370 Here a great variation on the Manhattan that tastes like more than it is:


Palmetto

1.5 oz Dark Demerara Rum*

1.5 oz Sweet Vermouth**

2 dashes Orange Bitters

Shake with ice. Strain. Drink.


*I recommend El Dorado 15

**I recommend Lustau Vermut Rojo

Lustau Vermut is an interesting variation in that it's base is sherry. 70% Amontillado, 20% Pedro Ximenez. It is velvet smooth and brings a nice dose of fruit to match the drier fruitiness of the El Dorado.

But, as always use what you have and/or like.

Lovely cocktail. You may give up Manhattans forever.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2018 05:51 PM (CRRq9)

371 >>it keeps a more constant temperature near the food while it's drifting back to it's 'on' threshold.

Cool.

thanks

Posted by: Mama AJ, owner of a crappy old electric oven at October 14, 2018 05:51 PM (wSGZR)

372 Thanks! I'm going there to talk about working for the people who are treating me, so it's useful to have an idea as to how serious they are.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:51 PM (9fowx)

373 Saimin is just noodles in broth. I.e., a bowl of heaven. Like redneck ramen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saimin

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:51 PM (kQs4Y)

374
What's weird is there seems to be a few new "mystical/spiritual" series starting this year.

I just saw an ad for a new CBS series called, get this, God Friended Me.

It's about a man who has this special app that connects him to God. It's a Dramedy.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (GiDKn)

375 373. Eris - okay, sriracha is a given. Hoisin and french-fried onions as well, yes?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fA1SL)

376 Saimin is the effort of veak, effeminate Hawaiian to approach the perfection of pho.


So, you represent a cultural hegemony stretching from the Oder-Neisse line to the Pacific, but not including Hawaii.

Does it stop at the Pacific, or is Midway cool?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fuK7c)

377 Well now I want ramen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (kQs4Y)

378 376. Soon.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:53 PM (fA1SL)

379 Well, at least we've gotten so far without the mayo-Miracle Whip argument.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 05:53 PM (tT986)

380 Does it stop at the Pacific, or is Midway cool?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fuK7c)


*whispers*

johnston atoll

ask about johnston atoll

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:53 PM (y87Qq)

381 Future FIL was in VN after it fell. Pho in those days was potato-starch noodles and msg in water. Yeah. Fucking commies managed to ruin pho.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:55 PM (fA1SL)

382 380. Zeks mine guano there. All in GECSPLAN.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:55 PM (fA1SL)

383 A pressure cooker is nice if you live at 7,200 feet elevation.

Posted by: Anchovy at October 14, 2018 05:55 PM (srWwQ)

384 So, I had all the makings for the Pot Roast recipe in the Better Homes and Gardens cookbook when the power went out (Hurricane Matthew, two years ago). So I pulled out the Coleman Deluxe Camp Stove and the cheepy Tramontina Dutch Oven that I bought a Walmart not too much earlier. I even had a turnip and a couple of parsnips. Four hours later, while the power is still out, we are eating the best meal we have had in years.

Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 05:55 PM (3HNOQ)

385 376---....but not including Hawaii.....

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fuK7c)
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Can we be honest here?
Does ANYTHING include Hawaii?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 05:56 PM (Rxduq)

386 made a veal stew in my Le Creuset pan. Yesterday made short ribs. One of the virtues of fall and winter is being able to make great soups and stews. Will quaff a bottle of burgundy with it.

Posted by: jeff at October 14, 2018 05:56 PM (xqr+s)

387 VIA, if you're still here, I just emailed you with a link to the orchard. They do come to a few places in Maryland, so see if any are near you.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:56 PM (U5tDi)

388 375 373. Eris - okay, sriracha is a given. Hoisin and french-fried onions as well, yes?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fA1SL)
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I'm more of a scallions, kamaboku, bok choi, and char siu kinda gal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:56 PM (kQs4Y)

389
A pressure cooker is nice required if you live at 7,200 feet elevation.

Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 05:56 PM (3HNOQ)

390 Can't wait till the next open thread.

Cause we can't talk about Trumps three appointments to the Ninth Circus on the food thread.

Nope.


Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (cqNba)

391 Hawaii will become the Bulgaria of the Pacific under glorious reconstruction following GECSPLAN.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (fA1SL)

392 Ruhlman's 'savory bacon' recipe from his Charcuterie book has become a Christmas gift special in my family. Fam wait for their slab every December with greedy fingers and dripping jaws.

Here is a slightly different version of the recipe, from the master: http://ruhlman.com/2016/04/bacon-time/

Posted by: lauraw at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (lZsUq)

393 VIA, it depends.

What do they like to eat?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (9fowx)

394 Bluebell

Got the e-mail
Thanks!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM (cqNba)

395
Wait.

Is the Ninth Circuit edible?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM (GiDKn)

396 I have been making apple crisp with the last of the gravenstein apples.

Chop up apples in to small chunks, sprinkle with a small amount of brown sugar and dot with butter, then cut together oatmeal and flour and a tablespoon of brown sugar and a couple tablespoons of butter, a dash of salt, and spread the crumbs on top.

Bake at 3550F for 30 or 45 minutes until the apples are bubbling and the top is golden.

I also got my first King apples this year, so I guess I will be making crisp with those.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM (mUa7G)

397 OK, how about when we get to comment #400, this becomes an open thread?

Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)

398 "Guano" is the new "Plastics"

"Now as the world hungers for sustainable resources, bird excrement is once again as prized as gold."

https://tinyurl.com/y9ku3e4b


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 05:59 PM (kQs4Y)

399 Is the Ninth Circuit edible?

Not so much.

Posted by: Gag Reflex at October 14, 2018 06:00 PM (fuK7c)

400 "What do they like to eat?"

I'm guessing...red meat.

On the grill.

While drinking beer.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:00 PM (cqNba)

401 398. See? GECSPLAN is green.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:00 PM (fA1SL)

402 Here is a slightly different version of the recipe, from the master: http://ruhlman.com/2016/04/bacon-time/
Posted by: lauraw at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (lZsUq)
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Hi lauraw! That looks scrumptious. When you make it, do you do it in the oven or do you smoke it? I don't have a smoker, and I wonder if it would actually taste like bacon if it were done in the oven.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:01 PM (U5tDi)

403 OK, how about when we get to comment #400, this becomes an open thread?
Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)

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Most threads turn into open threads after #100, so why not?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 06:01 PM (I16G8)

404 Sure thing, VIA.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:02 PM (U5tDi)

405
remember AMISH?

the funny one, not the math dork.

Amish once said if we ever had to resort to cannibalism, he'd eat Sean Hannity first because he'd probably taste like a Ruths Chris steak.

(This was at a time when Hannity was promoting Ruth's Chris every five minutes).

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 14, 2018 06:02 PM (GiDKn)

406 For those what appreciate Metokur, his Sunday Fun Day stream starts in about an hour. Dude never disappoints.

https://youtu.be/GPq2RyppqG0

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:02 PM (fA1SL)

407 We're up to guano, so OT is more of a suggestion, really.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:03 PM (fuK7c)

408 ask about johnston atoll
Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 05:53 PM (y87Qq)

What? Did it flip over?

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 06:04 PM (If3tB)

409 Many parts of a Circuit Court are edible.

Posted by: Euell Gibbons at October 14, 2018 06:04 PM (yQpMk)

410 Bluebell


They go to the Pikesville Farmers market.



We'll be there!!!

Thanks

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (cqNba)

411 391 .... the Bulgaria of the Pacific.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 05:57 PM (fA1SL)
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Oddly, this is a phrase rarely --- dare I say never? --- heard in ordinary discourse.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (Rxduq)

412 Since we're past 400...

good for a smile.

https://tinyurl.com/yb34u8gj

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (If3tB)

413 something, something about ice cream and guano.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (tEVlJ)

414 411. You bought your ticket. You knew what you were getting into.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (fA1SL)

415 We'll be there!!!

Thanks
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (cqNba)
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Woo hoo! Be sure to try at least one Stayman apple. You won't be sorry.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:06 PM (U5tDi)

416 Is there a Florida Beach in Mexico?

Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 06:06 PM (3HNOQ)

417 Is there a Florida Beach in Mexico?
Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 06:06 PM (3HNOQ)

NO. But plenty of Florida Mans.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 06:07 PM (If3tB)

418 Or do what I do - look for recipes online to make your own. I do that a lot when I have something good in a restaurant, or it just occurs to me finally to make something myself that I usually buy, like pickled banana peppers which my boys love.
Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 05:43 PM (U5tDi)
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And bluebell kindly supplies the corollary to finding someone else to buy it...find someone else to make it!



Good idea, though, and thanks, I'll look it up. How hard can it be to make a pepper and onion relish?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 06:07 PM (WEBkv)

419 good for a smile.


Oh that's good. I was watching the two of them yell at each other and couldn't figure out who the MMA guy was and then there was the deus ex machina.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (fuK7c)

420 Many parts of a Circuit Court are edible.
Posted by: Euell Gibbons at October 14, 2018 06:04 PM (yQpMk)


My people used to use every part of the Circuit Court, before the white man came to these shores.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (y87Qq)

421 Oh that's good. I was watching the two of them yell at each other and couldn't figure out who the MMA guy was and then there was the deus ex machina.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (fuK7c)

I like his shirt.

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (If3tB)

422 My dad's company gives out safety awards for man hours without incident. One the last ones had a set of Le Creuset pots as an option. My mom jumped all over it. She said it is my inheritance too. I think I will make that stew this week since we jumped from 80 degrees to 45 degree overnight lows. It was downright cold last night to me.

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (1uG1d)

423 Oddly, this is a phrase rarely --- dare I say never? --- heard in ordinary discourse.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 06:05 PM (Rxduq)
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When did discourse at AoSHQ become ordinary and why wasn't I informed?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 06:08 PM (WEBkv)

424 Good idea, though, and thanks, I'll look it up. How hard can it be to make a pepper and onion relish?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 06:07 PM (WEBkv)
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Probably not hard at all. And here's another tip - look up the ingredient list from the one you like, and then look for recipes that have the same general ingredients. Sometimes I'll combine several recipes to get what I'm looking for.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:09 PM (U5tDi)

425
Interesting Guano Fact from the World O'Dentistry:

Peruvian bird guano used to be used as the main component in root canal filling.

High pH was deadly to bacteria.


The More You Know!

*rainbow*

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2018 06:09 PM (CRRq9)

426 That reminds me. I haven't had smoked saimin in a long time.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 06:10 PM (7gJxk)

427

I'll bet 100 Aceloos the Cowboys lose.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 14, 2018 06:11 PM (GiDKn)

428 I don't know about the onion thing but they've got the pepper thing down.

https://tinyurl.com/yb2fey88

Posted by: golfman at October 14, 2018 06:11 PM (If3tB)

429 Speaking of charcoal, avoid at all costs Royal Oak
"All Natural Non-Petroleum" charcoal lighter fluid. The stuff smells
like an open grave, and I think it's just bio-diesel. About which there
is nothing natural, seeing as it made from plant or animal fats modified
by caustic potash and methanol.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 14, 2018 05:13 PM (iwUO9)

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i use a chimney, and half sheets of fake news paper... usually 8-10, lightly crumpled, and fed in one at a time, is QS for a load. when the next sheet catches w/o a lighter, just give it 5-10 minutes to finish on its own.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 06:11 PM (kRSP9)

430 Peruvian bird guano used to be used as the main component in root canal filling.

High pH was deadly to bacteria.


The More You Know!

*rainbow*
Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2018 06:09 PM (CRRq9)

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Considering a dentist was responsible for my near demise as a child, do I really need any more reasons to avoid going to the dentist? (true story)

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at October 14, 2018 06:11 PM (WEBkv)

431 lauraw and bluebell

I love my Charcuterie cook book and started with Ruhlman's recipe, but in all honesty, Meathead's is easier and suits our tastes better. Just one person's non-condiment-related opinion.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at October 14, 2018 06:12 PM (S+f+m)

432 Just read about a thing called boiled cider. Just spent the last few hrs simmering down a gallon of cider into about 2 cups. Very sweet and flavorful. Lots of potential uses I think. over ice cream, apple pie, pancakes, someone could probably think of a use in fancy "craft" cocktails, perhaps a tiny amount in with red cabbage...

Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 06:12 PM (TYEUS)

433 Mesquite is the ultimate grilling wood.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:13 PM (tEVlJ)

434 Hey everybody.

Normally I'm not a huge fan of Mimi's-- it's basically a French-style chain restaurant for women-- but last time I was there, I had the most delicious belgian malt waffles. OMG.

It came with bacon and eggs too. I recommend!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:13 PM (miE9U)

435 Peruvian bird guano used to be used as the main component in root canal filling.

This is finest Horde creep. A couple of threads ago I mentioned guano mining in the context of Japanese slavery. Then we got several recipes for turning guano into saltpeter, or combining it with saltpeter (I'm not a STEM guy) to make splodey.

Then people were peeing on charcoal to make nitrates to make splodey.

And now we're filling cavities! Collectively, we can do anything with guano.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:14 PM (fuK7c)

436 Just read about a thing called boiled cider. Just spent the last few hrs simmering down a gallon of cider into about 2 cups. Very sweet and flavorful. Lots of potential uses I think.
Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 06:12 PM (TYEUS)


*rubs chin thoughtfully*

Do you think... do you think we might be able to argue and needle our buddies bitterly about it? On the internet, say?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 06:14 PM (y87Qq)

437 Ben Had, not bad gamblin' either

(just kidding, never been there, would like to pass through someday)

Which reminds me, this place needs weekly (or at least, monthly) threads on the following topix:

- Travel
- Music
- Hobbies

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (miE9U)

438 The Guamanians cried out "What gall!"
When hearing Hank Johnson's dumb call
"He's a moron to think
That our island will sink
We don't like this Johnson Atoll!"

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)

439 My local news station WXYZ, an ABC affiliate. "Trump's Approval Ratings Up...but many still disapprove. Well, if you tell me what the ratings are I can figure that out all by myself.


I am really sick and tired of all the negative press. All they're doing is making me hate them!

Posted by: Bill R. at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (IuYIh)

440 Mesquite is the ultimate grilling wood.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:13 PM (tEVlJ)

*Fist bump*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (0GuIv)

441 Just read about a thing called boiled cider. Just
spent the last few hrs simmering down a gallon of cider into about 2
cups. Very sweet and flavorful. Lots of potential uses I think. over
ice cream, apple pie, pancakes, someone could probably think of a use
in fancy "craft" cocktails, perhaps a tiny amount in with red cabbage...


Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 06:12 PM (TYEUS)


But can that bar that makes "craft" cocktails" make classic ones like a Sidecar or a proper Manhattan? (Obviously without cider.)

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:16 PM (tT986)

442 I've noticed Kingsford has these "flavored' briquets. Hickory, mesquite.

Are they any good? Or do they only make the smoke smell better?

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:16 PM (miE9U)

443 Sooner or later I wish to own a propane smoker.

Nothing elaborate, just something for next to the grill.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:16 PM (cqNba)

444 Rye and hard cider is an excellent autumnal libation.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:17 PM (fA1SL)

445 Art Rondelet, do you have a link for that bacon?

And lurker, first of all don't lurk - post! - and secondly, that boiled-down cider sounds delicious, and you're right, I could think of lots of ways to use that. Yum.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:17 PM (U5tDi)

446 qdpsteve, also the home of a great Rodeo.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:17 PM (tEVlJ)

447 The Guamanians cried out "What gall!"
When hearing Hank Johnson's dumb call
"He's a moron to think
That our island will sink
We don't like this Johnson Atoll!"
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)
---------

*standing ovation*

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (U5tDi)

448 Just read about a thing called boiled cider. Just spent the last few
hrs simmering down a gallon of cider into about 2 cups. Very sweet and
flavorful. Lots of potential uses I think.


Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 06:12 PM (TYEUS)

---

That sounds very interesting, and like something that would lend itself well to the addition of some type of liquor for fall porch-sitting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's Beach Friends at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (7gJxk)

449 Ben, I wouldn't mind seeing of of those.
I imagine the nearby barbecue trucks sell some tasty stuff too.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (miE9U)

450 Mesquite is the kudzu of Texas.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (yQpMk)

451 416 Is there a Florida Beach in Mexico?
Posted by: JAS at October 14, 2018 06:06 PM (3HNOQ)
-----------------------
I'll bet a hundred quatloos that there is. Lots and lots of places in Spick countries use that name for anyplace with gardens or lush vegetation, whether they are literally "flowery" or not. Maybe if they just have a potted plant on the sidewalk.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (Rxduq)

452 But can that bar that makes "craft" cocktails" make classic ones like a Sidecar or a proper Manhattan? (Obviously without cider.)
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:16 PM (tT986)


I have no idea but I am so ready to get into a spittle-flecked screaming match about it one way or the other that I could just cry.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 06:19 PM (y87Qq)

453 452.
It is the way of our people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:20 PM (fA1SL)

454 I have no idea but I am so ready to get into a
spittle-flecked screaming match about it one way or the other that I
could just cry.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 14, 2018 06:19 PM (y87Qq)


You're safe. I'm not going to throw ketchup into either of them.
(I am a fan of the Sidecar and the Manhattan)

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:21 PM (tT986)

455 There was a pretty good King Of Queens episode where Doug decides to go to school to become a bartender.

Some good gags, especially during the "Kokomo" montage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:21 PM (miE9U)

456 450. You misspelled 'creosote bush'.

That shit is awful.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (fA1SL)

457 Is the Ninth Circuit edible?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM (GiDKn)

---
no, it's shit.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (kRSP9)

458 I hope CBD doesn't take this the wrong way, but I was just looking at the post again and this is the first food thread in a long time where every single thing he talks about sounds absolutely delicious.

If he does take it the wrong way, well, at least you all will know why I was banned.

Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (U5tDi)

459 Will Johnston Atoll be renamed Kolyma Atoll by Pacific GECSPLAN?

Posted by: Hands at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (786Ro)

460 Posted by: bluebell at October 14, 2018 06:18 PM (U5tDi)

*bows humbly*

Thank you, dear lady.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (NWiLs)

461 For the connoisseur.

800 Round Ammo Can - 7.62x25 Tokarev FMJ Czech 1950s Military Surplus Ammo for Sale - Hard Primers

$224.95

http://bit.ly/2Cjgo9s

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (yQpMk)

462 438 The Guamanians cried out "What gall!"
When hearing Hank Johnson's dumb call
"He's a moron to think
That our island will sink
We don't like this Johnson Atoll!"
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:15 PM (NWiLs)
---------------------------

9.86 on the Muldoon 10.0 scale!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (Rxduq)

463 459.
This guy - he gets it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (fA1SL)

464 (I am a fan of the Sidecar and the Manhattan)
Posted by: Vendette



And yet, when someone upthread said make a Manhattan out of rum you said nothing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (fuK7c)

465 Speaking of food, I just picked my last two tomatoes for the season. We're forecast to get a hard freeze tonight in central Iowa.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (bjCNA)

466 FYI - wife just got a $50 cast iron pot with lid from sur la table on sale down from $200, if someone is looking.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (r+sAi)

467 461. Oof!

BRB - order and then bunk

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (fA1SL)

468 You're safe. I'm not going to throw ketchup into either of them.
(I am a fan of the Sidecar and the Manhattan)

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:21 PM (tT986)



Though I hear Vendette uses a carrots instead of a cherries in her Manhattans.

Posted by: naturalfake stirring the pot at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (CRRq9)

469 Calm Mentor at October 14, 2018 05:05 PM (I16G

Were those Theresa's kids or old man Heinz's kids?

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (u5LFV)

470 9.86 on the Muldoon 10.0 scale!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (Rxduq)

High praise indeed. I am honored.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (NWiLs)

471 >>There was a pretty good King Of Queens episode where Doug decides to go to school to become a bartender.

I took a bartending course through a Harvard continuing education program.

That's right, Ivy league pedigree.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (/tuJf)

472 I've noticed Kingsford has these "flavored' briquets. Hickory, mesquite.

Are they any good? Or do they only make the smoke smell better?
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:16 PM



You'd think they would sell "Pumpkin Spice" briquets this time of year. Like everyone else.

Posted by: Hands at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (786Ro)

473 Have a couple of hot peppers still on plants, should cut them and bring on tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (T4oHT)

474 Okay, Muldoon better look out. There's a new sheriff in Limerick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (kQs4Y)

475 Somewhat cheaper

840 Round Can - Hard Primer 7.62x25 FMJ Yugo Military Surplus Ammo For M57 Pistol - Made in 1977 by PPU

$219.50

http://bit.ly/2CeedEd

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (yQpMk)

476 "boiled cider"

Well unless there are arguments over what kind of alcohol goes with it ... it wouldn't be AOSHQ

Posted by: lurker at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (TYEUS)

477 Hey qdpsteve, this might be what you had:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9hh4og4
Williams-Sonoma carries it in their stores too (in a different package). It's good stuff.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 14, 2018 06:25 PM (0ReGO)

478 Though I hear Vendette uses a carrots instead of a cherries in her Manhattans.




Posted by: naturalfake stirring the pot at October 14, 2018 06:23 PM (CRRq9)


Should you be shaking instead of stirring?

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:25 PM (tT986)

479 "Though I hear Vendette uses a carrots instead of a cherries in her Manhattans. "

And that's when the fight started, Officer.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:26 PM (cqNba)

480 475.
Even better. That hard-primer stuff s tricksy.

Order and bunk.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:26 PM (fA1SL)

481 Helena, thanks! Sounds de-lish.

My 13-year-old niece LOVES waffles, both eating and making them. I bet she'd love getting a package of that mix.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:26 PM (miE9U)

482 there isn't enough of the "flavor wood" in the briquets to do any flavoring, and grilling is too fast a process to get a smoke ring anyway.

if you're going to use them for smoking, you'll need to add MOAR of the same wood to get any effect anyway, so it's just a gimmick to charge MOAR for less charcoal.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 14, 2018 06:26 PM (kRSP9)

483 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 06:24 PM (kQs4Y)

You're too kind. More of a volunteer auxiliary deputy. But the man definitely inspires me to up my limerick game.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (NWiLs)

484 Is the Ninth Circuit edible?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM



Forgot to put the "cr" before "edible"

Posted by: Hands at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (786Ro)

485 JackStraw, do we all have to call you "DOCTOR" from now on? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (miE9U)

486 And yet, when someone upthread said make a Manhattan out of rum you said nothing.


Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 14, 2018 06:22 PM (fuK7c)


Imagine that I'm blowing raspberries at you.

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (tT986)

487 Just brought in the potted Carolina Reaper and the Salsa Pepper plants for the winter.

They will spend the winter living in our dining room.

For a single Carolina Reaper plant, we got well over a hundred peppers off just the one plant this year.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (cqNba)

488 Hands, I'm sure they're on their way. :-P

Also coming soon: Pumpkin Spice Doritos and Taco Bell Locos Tacos.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (miE9U)

489 Order and bunk.


Buy both, Czech for the 52 and Yugo for the 57.

Both are better than the cheap Romanian I've been shooting.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

490 Ok JackStraw, How do you make a skull and bones cocktail?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (tEVlJ)

491 Should you be shaking instead of stirring?
Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:25 PM (tT986)



Yes!!!

The aeration of a good hard shake makes for a tastier cocktail.


The More You Know!

*rainbow*

Posted by: naturalfake stirring the pot at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (CRRq9)

492 Romanians are like a discount Slav, right?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

493 For a single Carolina Reaper plant, we got well over a hundred peppers off just the one plant this year.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:27 PM (cqNba)

Holy God. Don't those violate multiple accords on human rights?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:29 PM (NWiLs)

494 489. I have. Except for prvi partizan, I've been down to shooting Bulgarian milsurp. Czech and Best Slavia is a step up.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:29 PM (fA1SL)

495 Ok JackStraw, How do you make a skull and bones cocktail?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (tEVlJ)


It's tricky. You have to shake everything together with the inside of the skull of a Bush family member. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:29 PM (miE9U)

496 Saw cider mentioned above, at this brew house where my niece had a Halloween theme wedding they had a hard cider that was the best I ever tried. Assume they maded it but not positive.

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 06:30 PM (T4oHT)

497 Wait.

Is the Ninth Circuit edible?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 14, 2018 05:58 PM (GiDKn)

I have ruled that the Ninth Circuit is what I say it is!

Posted by: All-Powerful Hawaiian Judge on the Ninth Circuit at October 14, 2018 06:30 PM (tKF1g)

498 Hey, Bluebell--

Yes, here's a link to Meatheat's recipe: https://tinyurl.com/ybj4lz86

He gives you several variations, but I just use the simple bacon one with a clove of garlic thrown in. Don't let all the verbiage wear you down; the recipe really is simple. The long explanation is actually kind of reassuring when you are doing it for the first time.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at October 14, 2018 06:30 PM (S+f+m)

499 Hello Horde! My recipe for pot roast is easier than the one in the NYT.
I use a crockpot, not a cast iron pot.
Spray the inside of the crockpot with no stick spray (I like the canola oil one)
Pour a bag of those itty bitty red potatoes and a bag of baby carrots in the bottom of the pot.
Place chuck roast on top. Sprinkle half a package of Lipton Onion Soup and Recipe mix on top of meat. Pour a can of cream of mushroom soup on top. pour 3-4 cans of water in the bottom.
Cook on low for 12-14 hours. Serve with biscuits or rolls.


Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 06:31 PM (dczB+)

500 492. Honorary SMR. They have the native Latin drama combined with Slav insanity, acquired by osmosis.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:31 PM (fA1SL)

501 "Holy God. Don't those violate multiple accords on human rights?


What?

They're not that hot.

Ah...who am I bulls*tting.

Neither of us actually eat them.
Little VIA planted it before he went to Boot Camp, so like his aquarium, it fell to Mrs VIA and I to adopt.

So now we have quite a following of restaurants and bars who ask us to drop some off for either inclusion in their cooking, or bets with drunken college students.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 14, 2018 06:32 PM (cqNba)

502 Yes!!!



The aeration of a good hard shake makes for a tastier cocktail.





The More You Know!




*rainbow*


Posted by: naturalfake stirring the pot at October 14, 2018 06:28 PM (CRRq9)


I assume you've had a Manhattan with carrots before, which is why you're enthusiastically sending one my way?

Posted by: Vendette at October 14, 2018 06:32 PM (tT986)

503 i'm so hungry

Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 14, 2018 06:32 PM (0O7c5)

504 Hi bluebell! We smoke the home cured bacon on our regular 20-year old Weber grill. Low indirect heat, with smoke from hardwood pellets smouldering off the side.

You could definitely cook it on low in the oven, and it would still be bacon and taste like bacon! If you want the additional smoke flavor, go ahead and use a few drops of liquid smoke before baking. It's not some weird chemical concoction. It's literally wood smoke that has been mixed in steam and captured by condensation. There is no chemical difference between that and what we do on the grill. I simply don't like the flavor of mesquite or hickory, which seem to be the only smoke flavors sold in the supermarket around here.

Posted by: lauraw at October 14, 2018 06:32 PM (lZsUq)

505 Here's my recipe for pizza:

Call Dominos and order a thin crust half meat lovers/half pepperoni.

Get his debit card and head towards the store.


Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 06:33 PM (dczB+)

506 As long as we've cliff-dived off topic, this afternoon I saw Nic Cage at his Nic Cagiest in "Mandy", about a man and wife living in blissful near isolation in a forest. He's a logger, she's an illustrator. She takes a walk one day along a lonely road and is spotted by a creepy cult leader and his minions as they drive by. He has her abducted and terrible things ensue, as they are wont when an LSD-dropping Jesus-freak biker cult is involved.

It's all filmed in the style of a feverish color-saturated nightmare vision. If you are a fan of arty grindhouse flicks with coke-snorting demonic leather freaks, hand-forged weapons, and chainsaw fights, this may be the flick for you.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 06:33 PM (kQs4Y)

507 >>JackStraw, do we all have to call you "DOCTOR" from now on? ;-)

I don't require it but it would show your good breeding if you did.

>>Ok JackStraw, How do you make a skull and bones cocktail?

No idea. I took the course because there was a cute woman I was trying to meet taking the course. That didn't work out so well either.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (/tuJf)

508 It was a bad year for tomatoes and peppers, to wet not enough sun

Posted by: Skip at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (T4oHT)

509 506 As long as we've cliff-dived off topic, this afternoon I saw Nic Cage at his Nic Cagiest in "Mandy", about a man and wife living in blissful near isolation in a forest. He's a logger, she's an illustrator. She takes a walk one day along a lonely road and is spotted by a creepy cult leader and his minions as they drive by. He has her abducted and terrible things ensue, as they are wont when an LSD-dropping Jesus-freak biker cult is involved.

It's all filmed in the style of a feverish color-saturated nightmare vision. If you are a fan of arty grindhouse flicks with coke-snorting demonic leather freaks, hand-forged weapons, and chainsaw fights, this may be the flick for you.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 06:33 PM (kQs4Y)

Just an average Saturday night in Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

510 I like spicy foods, but I cannot eat a Carolina Reaper. That's just torture. Do you have to use gloves to pick them?

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (1uG1d)

511 506. Sold! Will expropriate via bit torrent.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (fA1SL)

512 Last load of wash is in the dryer. Yay!

Posted by: ALH at October 14, 2018 06:35 PM (dczB+)

513 All Hail Eris, sounds like this new flick "Apostle."
Supposedly it's crazy violent.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:35 PM (miE9U)

514 509. Just an average Saturday night in Florida.
Posted by: Insomniac
**
She said nothing about mullets.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 14, 2018 06:35 PM (fA1SL)

515 510 I like spicy foods, but I cannot eat a Carolina Reaper. That's just torture. Do you have to use gloves to pick them?
Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (1uG1d)

You are well-advised to wear gloves and eye protection while handling those bad boys.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:36 PM (NWiLs)

516 Mrs. Renfros has an actual ghost pepper salsa.

I've tried it and like it... but I would love to know how much ghost pepper is actually in it. I'd bet very, very little, or they'd be getting sued left and right.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 14, 2018 06:36 PM (miE9U)

517 It's all filmed in the style of a feverish color-saturated nightmare vision. If you are a fan of arty grindhouse flicks with coke-snorting demonic leather freaks, hand-forged weapons, and chainsaw fights, this may be the flick for you.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 14, 2018 06:33 PM (kQs4Y)

Just an average Saturday night in Florida.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 14, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

You wish!

Posted by: Florida Man at October 14, 2018 06:36 PM (tKF1g)

518 What?



They're not that hot.



Ah...who am I bulls*tting.



Neither of us actually eat them.

Little VIA planted it before he went to Boot Camp, so like his aquarium, it fell to Mrs VIA and I to adopt.



So now we