Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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Welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Put down the snow shovels and the umbrella laced drinks and enjoy the world of pets.

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Misanthropic Acres has about 36" of snow on the ground. Our dogs are having a hard time getting around. I'll be using the snow blower this weekend in the back yard.

For those of you in snow country, what do you do for your pets to make their lives easier?


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A Little of This. A Little of That.


American settlers had dogs. What did they eat? Dog bread! H/T Hank Curmudgeon


In an era long before pet stores and commercial dog food, what did Appalachian settlers feed their dogs?

Not too long ago, I asked my grandmother this question and her answer was quite interesting, “Each Saturday, my mother would take all of our table scraps that weren’t considered unhealthy for the dog and bake it together — we called it ‘dog bread’ and it was the dog’s food for the coming week.”


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There is always "one", isn't there? Busy body evicts cat.

A California fire department had to evict their beloved cat after it received a complaint about the animal being around fire equipment and supplies.

Edna the cat was evicted from Station 49 of the San Francisco Fire Department after the city received an anonymous complaint about the animal's location near medical equipment.


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Missing socks? It just might be your dastardly cat.

It’s a universal truth that socks tend to go missing — they get mismatched or they altogether vanish.

But Kim Crosland, a graphic designer in New Zealand, knew that the rate at which her own socks were disappearing was extreme.

Crosland and her family started to notice it two years ago. "We just thought the socks were getting lost in the washing or getting misplaced," Crosland told The Dodo.

Then, one day, speaking to a neighbor, Crosland realized she wasn't alone. "One of my neighbors had mentioned their socks going missing and we laughed about it," she said. "Our sock pile had dwindled as well."

Usually, the socks would disappear overnight, sometimes right out of her shoes.


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Meet The PetMorons


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"I double dog dare you to throw this ball"

Hermes, rescue Lab-Airedale, is intensely projecting that thought into your skull.

Artemis, mini Golden Doodle, is just looking for treats.

Hermes has a hypersonic tail stub, Yoda ears, AT-AT legs and Wookie speech patterns. He's a real StarWars dog. Just like that Last Jedi thing was a dog. AmiRight.

Artie just hypnotizes people with her tail and licks 'em to death.

I'm just a blog reader. Never a commenter. Never even a comment reader. (Wha?) Don't even call me lurker.

Terry
Atlanta

(Hermes will wookie for treats.)

Adorable dogs Terry. Thanks for commenting, lurking submitting your photo and story. Stick around we don't bite.


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Been lurking around the blog for a long time, and I thought I'd pitch in with my two adorable deplorables. The one curled up in my belt is Angus, the Platonic ideal of the word "galoot" - rambunctious, friendly and slightly dumber than a pile of his own fur. In the foreground is his sister Rally, who at six and a half pounds is the undisputed queen of the house. They've been steadily transforming my paychecks into vet bills and used litter for about thirteen and a half years now, after I went to a Humane Society event in Omaha looking for *a* cat and the furry little devils were being all adorable at me so I couldn't bear to split them up. Had a nasty scare with them, especially Rally, after they had a bad reaction to their rabies vaccine last month and stopped eating for a few days. With a great deal of prayer and an assist from St. Francis they pulled through, much to the collective relief of their humans, and are back to their usual shenanigans. Hopefully they keep it up for a long while yet! -Stephen

Talk about a big heart, adopting 2 cats at one time. Awesome. We are happy to hear that your scare is over and all is well with Rally. Thanks for sharing with us.


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Zuko is a lab mix rescue. He has no shame and assumes this position whenever he naps...which is often. -Roger

Rescued and living the high life it appears. What a tough existence Zuko has. And an unusual but neat name. We appreciate his story.


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Here is Darla, my smooth-haired fox terrier. My daughters and I got her from a town south of us—Amo, Indiana—at a place we nicknamed the Poop Farm, because that is what they had the most of. Dogs, cats, goats, ducks, chickens, all for sale there. Darla loves the snow and is a great little friend -AgathaPagatha

Amazing how dogs love the snow. Good thing little Darla isn't way up north in snow country. It sounds like she has quite the life with you folks. Thanks for sharing.


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Not an oaf, lurker or lout, but I can be a poltroon in times of great danger, unless I have my magic weapon, called by the elves a "Browning Semi-Automatic". You remember Saki, our rice wine kitteh. You had a picture of her watching college football on my knee. Here she is ready for me to take her to work. She'd be fantastic, better than most I've worked with. Too bad I'm retired. -Ken

Good to see you guys again here at the Pet Thread. Saki appears to be quite comfy in the world of labor. Thanks for the submission.


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Our bearded dragon Newbie enjoying a snoozer in the warm spot in front of our wood stove. He’s spent much of the winter asleep, since it’s too chilly to be out on our porch. He will wake up though for his favorite bugs or slices from an orange. -Christopher

Newbie is no dummie. I think most of us would enjoy curling up in front of that wood stove. Looks comfortable. We don't see too many bearded dragon submissions. Thanks.


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Long time lurker, love the thread. Don’t know if you do video, attached video is of my loved German Shepherd Darby “helping” me mow the lawn. And here is Darby and rescue pup Bean! - Terrence

Sorry Terrence & Darby, the Pet Thread doesn't do videos unless they are in You Tube with a link. Helping mow the lawn? Interesting. Looks like you have 2 very nice buddies there.


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All three Gizmo, Chino and Rocky too posing for the camera - Bill

Thanks Bill for the photo of the 3 Amigos. How many T-R-E-A-T-S did you have to use for the pose?


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Mis Hum, I'm sending you a real bull story of how a foundling calf turned into a pet. I will tell his story in the comments so as not to take up too much space. Ben Had

OK Ben, spill the story. Your pet looks delicious. I think we are all waiting for how this little calf became a big bull and a pet.

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An astounding group of pets today and wonderful stories. Thank you so much for sharing with the AoS Pet Thread.

Do you have a video, photo or story you would like to share? You can reach us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Have a wonderful week!

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1 Kitteh!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 02:57 PM (UGqF8)

2 Well, if nobody else is going to comment, I have some complaints that I would like to share...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 02:59 PM (UGqF8)

3 That cat needs an intervention.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 03:04 PM (NWiLs)

4 Great group of pets this week. I just love the Bean and Darby. Looks like Bean knows that nothing with bad intentions is going to get past Darby..

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 03:06 PM (jUcoH)

5 Zuko is a lab mix rescue. He has no shame and assumes this position whenever he naps...which is often. -Roger
Rescued and living the high life it appears. What a tough existence Zuko has. And an unusual but neat name. We appreciate his story.


Avatar: The Last Airbender reference, perhaps?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 03:07 PM (NWiLs)

6 Brushing a dogs teeth ?

My old man, who spends way more money on his two toy dogs than he ever did on us three kids, took one of 'em in for some cleaning. He knew there might be a tooth or two pulled.

Seventeen teeth later ... how does a dog rot out seventeen teeth. Is the dog on meth ? Is the old man and the dogs just crashing on the couch every evening, knocking back RC Cola and swishing Moon Pies ?

Posted by: The Artist Formerly Known as SG at February 16, 2019 03:08 PM (hswMf)

7 I used to make a circuit in the yard for the puppehs... with a couple jug handles and a large spot or two cleared for them to poop - using the snow blower.

They loved it when the snow go so deep the track turned into trenches.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 03:08 PM (SU2G9)

8 For those of you in snow country, what do you do for your pets to make their lives easier?

Teh kittehs have a heated bed big enough for both of them in my bedroom, plus a rectangular pad on the window seat with a heating element inside that warms up when they sit on it. This little bit of luxe allows them to sit and look out the living room window and watch the neighbors trying to walk their dogs in the snow.

So far none of the local SJWs have asked my cats to check their feline privilege. I expect teh kittehs would reply that they are both felines of color (FOCs) and are gender non-binary (IOW, neutered/spayed).

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2019 03:11 PM (3C9q2)

Saturday Gardening Thread: February 16 [KT]

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From Drabs to Fabs (Furniture refinishers in Utah)

Hello, gardeners and garden dreamers. Some photography, and some content from The Horde. Hope you have some fun with it today. This is unusual:

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Maybe this will make more sense:

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Credit Charlene Laurence

Passion Fruits

From Wee Kreek Farm Girl in Arizona:

My passion fruit vine is braving the cold alright. I never realized that a passion vine will fruit twice a year. Spring and fall. Spring is obviously better as my passion fruit is struggling to ripen in the cold as you can see from the pictures. They wrinkle up but they also should turn a bit purple, I am getting a bit of wrinkling but not much purple so far. My spring crop last year was about 20 passion fruit. Next year I am going to try to air layer one of the vines to make another plant to put on another section of fencing. It seems to like it hear and is covering about 25 feet of fencing.

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She has a Frederick passion fruit, which is a Passiflora edulis variety. It makes a difference which cultivar you get. Sunset says this fruit does not do well in hot weather, but she can grow this one in Arizona. There are some other edible passion fruits, too. Most are tropical.

I tried growing a P. edulis once in Southern California, but I couldn't get it to produce fruit. And here are fruits in winter, in Arizona!

I found some pictures from last year of the passion vine when it was flowering. I put this plant in, in memory of my mom who had passed 3 years ago. She loved passion fruit, so the plaque you can almost see it one of the pics says Sherry's Passion but the vine has overtaken the plaque.

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A beautiful remembrance of your mother.

At least my P. edulis was not as attractive to caterpillars as the more common ornamental passion flowers. Here is some pretty good information on growing passion fruits in Southern California

I have always wanted to grow the cultivar 'Incense", which is said to be root-hardy to Zone 5. It has 5 inch flowers that smell like sweet peas. The fruits are said to have fragrant, tasty pulp. It is a hybrid between our native Maypop, which also has edible fruit that is kind of bland and an Argentinian species. There is something rattling around in my brain about cross-pollinating it with the Maypop to get fruit.

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Gardening Questions of the Week

Le Vieux Garde asks:

Anybody know what this is?
Is it a groundcover gone wild or a prevalent weed?
Found an open ground in ditches all over my town.

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Looks familliar . . . .

We apparently missed Suzanne's question last year, so here it is again:

This is my amaryllis and for two years it has been in this SW window. It has never bloomed. Why do you think that is? Thanks for any info you can spare me.

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There may be some tips here. Anybody had success getting their amaryllis bulbs to repeat? How did you do it?

We would like hers to look something like this:

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Last Week

Further to Gordon's question on naturalizing bulbs last week, besides the great tips from Tammy al-Thor on climate considerations, I would recommend checking specialist's catalogs and local nurseries for specific cultivars recommended for naturalizing. For example, even in good climates for tulips, some repeat much better than others. Also remember to consider:

  • Pest resistance (including rodents and deer)
  • Summer dryness requirements
  • Planting depth
  • Mulching and fertilizing
  • How often they need division

    Do you have any reports on bulbs that have repeated well for you? Or did not repeat ?

    Nice tips in the comments on rose varieties last week, too.

    Critters

    If spiders worked together, they could eat us all. Oh, my.

    But the polar vortex probably killed off some invasive insect pests. Maybe even some stinkbugs. (h/t Instapundit)

    Meanwhile, via Hank Curmudgeon, insects are disappearing from biology textbooks. Jeepers. What is going on with our educational system? In order to get people to remember that one in four creatures on earth is a beetle, people do things like name them after Game of Thrones dragons.

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    Gardens of The Horde

    California Girl sent in some photos. Can you identify these?

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    If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

    ktinthegarden
    at g mail dot com

    Include your nic unless you want to remain a lurker.

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    1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs and Snowmen

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:09 PM (/rm4P)

    2 Corgis dutifully called
    In a couple of weeks the Philadelphia Flower Show is held, a colorful floral wonderland to visit. Mar 2-10

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:12 PM (/rm4P)

    3 Thanks for the tip, Skip.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 01:15 PM (BVQ+1)

    4 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 01:15 PM (NWiLs)

    5 Hiya

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 01:15 PM (nubzz)

    6 All these colors scare me. It's Andrew Wyeth brown outside and has been for many months.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 01:17 PM (Zo1XC)

    7 KT are you the one with the pet gecko?

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 01:17 PM (kufk0)

    8 I really like arbors, covered with foliage or not. It gives such a Secret Garden ambiance to any yard. You step through and you're in a different place, hidden from the outside world (even if your neighbor is right over the fence). It sets a mood.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 01:17 PM (zmIJL)

    9 If I had a normal life I would love to go and get loads of photos of the show to send in.
    But there are many horde members in this area so possibly someone is going.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (/rm4P)

    10 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.
    Posted by: Insomniac

    Nice to see you, too !

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (nubzz)

    11 KT, you're holding down the Saturday fort. Great posts, thank you.

    I've figured out what KT stands for: Kontent Tsar.

    Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2019 01:21 PM (T71PA)

    12 no sorry, the pic does not make sense uoside down either

    is the rock falling?

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 01:23 PM (BJlbN)

    13 Great photos!
    The 15 or so inches of global warming is almost gone from atop my crocus patch and now perhaps we can get on with Spring.
    Looks like the tulips and daffs have survived a well.

    Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2019 01:23 PM (0tfLf)

    14 oh a pond
    never mind

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 01:24 PM (BJlbN)

    15 What ever became of Breadfruit? I never see it in the stores.

    Captain Bligh was all on a mission and then poof! we never heard of the stuff again.

    With the burning times ahead, would it make a good food source?

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 01:26 PM (Z+IKu)

    16 For once I have something to contribute to the gardening thread! The purple stuff is called henbit; it's an edible weed, related to mint. I've got a bunch in my yard, bringing a bit of color before the bluebonnets take off.

    Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at February 16, 2019 01:26 PM (R3HPb)

    17 Love the rock picture with the water looking like sky until its viewed with correct orientation. Lovely flowers. I'm actually jealous of the snow. At least the mountains in the state are getting snow so irrigation water should be available for the farmers, but I sure would like to get a good dump of wet snow on our ground.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 01:26 PM (jUcoH)

    18 Nice to see you, too !
    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (nubzz)

    It's tradition, I can't just stop!

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (NWiLs)

    19 Le Vieux Garde's plant looks like henbit. It's a weed, but a pretty one. It fades out when the weather gets hot. California Girls's second plant could be Ribes aureum. I don't know enough about fungi to make a guess on the other picture.

    Posted by: Don at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (2odZQ)

    20 Physics nazi says the trees are not real, they are virtual.

    Posted by: I like cookies at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (xxAFD)

    21 Good afternoon, y'all.

    As to the 'what is it' photos, the first one is a tree with funny stuff growing on it. D'uh! (Can't remember the name of the mushroomy stuff.)

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 01:31 PM (bmdz3)

    22 As to the 'what is it' photos, the first one is a tree with funny stuff growing on it. D'uh! (Can't remember the name of the mushroomy stuff.)
    Posted by: JTB
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    Maybe mushrooms?

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 01:31 PM (kufk0)

    23 Thanks for the h/t KT, though it was not deserved! I could do better as far as tips on bulbs go.
    Suzanne might try putting her amaryllis in a smaller pot; they like to be somewhat root-bound. They also need to thoroughly dry out at some point,which I think is what forces the dormancy they need.
    I"m gonna go with weed on that purple-flowered thing.... I"ve had it everywhere I ever lived!


    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (VLXcj)

    24 22 ..." (Can't remember the name of the mushroomy stuff.)
    Posted by: JTB
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    Maybe mushrooms?"

    lin-duh, I'm paranoid. I always think the obvious answer is a trap. :-)

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 01:35 PM (bmdz3)

    25 Ok, the rock pic is cool. Now, back to lurking so my black thumb does not kill the thread.

    Posted by: tbodie at February 16, 2019 01:36 PM (TUUTu)

    26 Not at the farm this weekend. The forecast is for rain the next ten days straight. So I'm at home on the couch with WeaselDog resting and saving energy for when the active farming starts.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 01:37 PM (MVjcR)

    27 The bottom photo looks like a type of gooseberry or currant.

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 01:41 PM (4HMW8)

    28 While I don't have much of a green thumb (I'm more of a lawn nazi), the RMBS Mom's amaryllis blooms every year, and last year or the year before it bloomed again in the summer. Not sure why, but it was a nice treat.

    Posted by: A seal at February 16, 2019 01:43 PM (baPEg)

    29 one of the few things I recall from horticulture 40+ years ago ... mints have square stems.


    Lots of them around here ... they are nice, except in the fields with crops ... not really a problem there, a winter annual that shows up though. If there is a lot of it, it sucks up moisture (usually bad) and keeps the ground colder (always bad).

    Nice memory of Mom with the passion fruit. Beyond the nice sentimentality, a reminder of heritage and how we got here seems essential, especially as the DotComs try to remake us in their own image. (or into their preferred impulse driven consumer widget)

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 01:44 PM (Cus5s)

    30 Photos of lunar craters sometimes produce an illusion that they are hummocks, until you look at them upside down.

    Posted by: Anna Keppa at February 16, 2019 01:45 PM (ooMrJ)

    31 Aside from not killing the house plants (their continuation is not a given) the only gardening news is in the backyard.

    Our lilac has a lot of buds showing the first signs swelling. We're hoping for some good blossoms and that gorgeous lilac scent this spring.

    The little dogwood, which started out the size of a pencil, has survived, grown and has plenty of buds. This is the second winter for it and so far so good. Either we are doing something right or it is one determined little tree. Maybe we should name it Bilbo: small but surprisingly tough.

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 01:46 PM (bmdz3)

    32 The maple tree in our backyard has buds already.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 01:50 PM (MVjcR)

    33 Thanks, Don, for the plant ID. I recently moved and I know very little about the plants at my new home.

    Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at February 16, 2019 01:51 PM (L9+g/)

    34 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.
    Posted by: Insomniac

    ............

    Well, ain't you the cheery one!

    Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2019 01:52 PM (438dO)

    35 That purple flower looks like what we call Creeping Charlie.

    Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 16, 2019 01:53 PM (Vf4Y7)

    36 lin-duh at February 16, 2019 01:17 PM

    No, I don't have a gecko. It's the daughter of one of my friends who is married to a veterinarian who has the gecko.

    I understand that they eat spiders in Arizona.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 01:53 PM (BVQ+1)

    37 Elisabeth, Nice to see you post. Hope things are going well.

    "The forecast is for rain the next ten days straight. So I'm at home on the couch with WeaselDog resting and saving energy for when the active farming starts."

    Weasel, To quote Jeremiah Johnson, "Sound Wisdom". And I'm sure WeaselDog agrees.

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 01:54 PM (bmdz3)

    38 I would like to be back in my workroom scheduling out early starts( indoor) but instead I'm back out shoveling more snow off the roofs I put an addition on the back of my house last summer the roof pitch isn't steep enough for the snow to slide off by itself. The pile of snow I have shoveled off that roof is now about 9 feet high, almost to the edge of the roof that being said I still love winter. Need to plan out my early starts I live about 50 plus miles north of Spokane yet my garden season is the same as Anchorage Alaska

    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 16, 2019 01:55 PM (SLTeJ)

    39 19 Le Vieux Garde's plant looks like henbit. It's a weed, but a pretty one. It fades out when the weather gets hot. California Girls's second plant could be Ribes aureum. I don't know enough about fungi to make a guess on the other picture.
    Posted by: Don at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (2odZQ)


    Henbit! That's it! I knew the name was chicken-y but couldn't recall. Wasn't chickweed.

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 01:55 PM (4HMW8)

    40 votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 01:23 PM

    It took me a while to understand that it was a pond, too.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 01:56 PM (BVQ+1)

    41 The only time my amaryllis hasn't bloomed was when I didn't care for it enough the summer before. I have two that were sent to my husband's funeral service - they were blooming in December 2013, and have rebloomed every year except last summer.
    When I arrived here in SC, I placed the pots, completely dry, in the front closet and promptly forgot about them. I figured I'd let them rest for a few months. You can imagine my surprise when I opened the closet and found long pale leaves and a bud.
    The bonus this year is that seed pods have formed on one of them, so we'll have more plants next year!

    Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 16, 2019 01:57 PM (NMAzL)

    42 illiniwek at February 16, 2019 01:44 PM

    Great point on heritage.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (BVQ+1)

    43 I saw Creeping Charlie open for the Wandering Jews in Miami civic Center in 95'
    Meh seriously I have a brown thumb but I do have a rose tattoo.

    Posted by: sOME mORON at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (ICWiF)

    44 OT:

    Argh. I think all these dietary restrictions people subject themselves to is a commie plot. It makes it such a hassle to have a community feast. The commies want to break down all of our voluntary associations and our families and one way to do that is to destroy our enjoyment of breaking bread together.

    *sees bread; eeek! gluten!; runs away screaming hysterically*

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 02:01 PM (4HMW8)

    45 Imagine how many more hurricanes we'll have now that Cali's train is cancelled.

    Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 16, 2019 02:02 PM (rLCkV)

    46 The purple stuff is called henbit; it's an edible weed, related to mint.

    Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at February 16, 2019 01:26 PM (R3HPb)

    That's nice to know! We can critique its flavor and swap recipes in a few months on 2 threads. And have salad during the burning times, too.

    Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 16, 2019 02:02 PM (t0Z53)

    47 Anybody know what this is? Is it a groundcover gone wild or a prevalent weed? Found an open ground in ditches all over my town.

    From the leaves and flowers, looks like henbit or purple henbit. It's a member of the mint family and has square stems. If the stems are square, that's it.

    Henbit and purple henbit are edible.

    Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 16, 2019 02:03 PM (talIc)

    48 I have been trying to figure out the last picture with some help from Google image search. One plant that looks similar is Celandine (Chelidonium majus). The leaves look similar and there are 4 petal and five petal varieties.

    Posted by: 40 miles north at February 16, 2019 02:04 PM (o2vOl)

    49 I understand that [geckos] eat spiders in Arizona.
    Posted by: KTbarthedoor


    But in New Mexico, they have dietary restrictions.

    Posted by: mikeski at February 16, 2019 02:07 PM (P1f+c)

    50 I'm starting pepper seeds today. Trying a new one (new to me, anyway) called Habanada. It's supposed to have the fruitiness of a Habanero, but not the scorching heat.

    Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (t0Z53)

    51 Just watching a mushroom doc on tv with the wife. I like mushrooms, but its way to complicated for me to learn all of the safe vs poisonous. Some mimic others, so I'll leave that to others and eat packaged.

    Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 16, 2019 02:10 PM (r+sAi)

    52 In California surely geckos are vegetarians

    I think it was end of December noticed daffys popping out of the ground and was worried they wouldn't survive, well they did and are a couple of inches out of the ground.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 02:11 PM (/rm4P)

    53 Since moving to CO I've been trying to identify these weird (to me) "cherry bushes" as I've been calling them. They look nothing at all like the cherry trees back east. These are bushes and the fruits grow not in the familiar cherry clusters but all up and down along the branches. Profusely, to the point that you see more cherries than branches.

    Turns out they are called Nanking cherries. They do not grow naturally in the wild but escape from cultivation. I see these along trail-sides all over the front range. Now that I know what they are and that they are safe to eat, I'm looking forward to next autumn when they fruit! Sure will be easier to pick that back-east cherries since the bushes only grow to about 8-10 feet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunus_tomentosa

    Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 16, 2019 02:12 PM (talIc)

    54 Henbit is difficult to get rid of in grass without killing the grass, too.

    What we call Creeping Charlie has similar leaves but doesn't bloom to speak of and spreads out in long strings low on the ground so it doesn't get mown. It's also difficult to get rid of permanently.

    Posted by: Ralph L at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM (dYZMU)

    55 The wife's Amaryllis blooms every year, sometimes twice a year. They multiply by making another bulb beside the mother bulb. I don't know how they do it. They just do.

    Posted by: Ronster at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM (DqSCh)

    56 was 58 at 4pm two days ago, then 14 the next morning. Below freezing for another week, but I just saw the daffodils are already up an inch. A foot of snow probably kept the ground a little warmer. Spring has begun ... snow geese have been flying over as well ... and some Canadian geese. Looking forward to the songbirds singing ...

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM (Cus5s)

    57 No, I don't have a gecko. It's the daughter of one of my friends who is married to a veterinarian who has the gecko.

    I understand that they eat spiders in Arizona.
    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 01:53 PM (BVQ+1)

    Just in Arizona? Do they take the train to get there?

    Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 16, 2019 02:16 PM (3sjI6)

    58 KT, Thanks for another gardening thread. By its nature (no pun intended) it is positive and life enhancing.


    BTW, I would have laughed at the top photo but, growing up in Rhode Island in the 50s, I had plenty of both shoveling and hurricanes.

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 02:16 PM (bmdz3)

    59 The first photo is of Tree Oysters and I can't remember the name of the second plant.

    Posted by: Surfperch implores you to donate to Ace and keep the blog alive at February 16, 2019 02:22 PM (tVQUs)

    60 50 ... "I'm starting pepper seeds today. Trying a new one (new to me, anyway) called Habanada. It's supposed to have the fruitiness of a Habanero, but not the scorching heat."

    OldDominionMom, if those peppers turn out as you hope, please let us know. I can't tolerate anything hotter than bell peppers but Mrs. JTB likes a bit of heat now and then. It would be nice to grow something like that for her.

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 02:22 PM (bmdz3)

    61 Those mushrooms on the tree do look like oyster mushrooms. Not sure though. Usually mushrooms on trees are bad news for the tree.

    Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 16, 2019 02:22 PM (r+sAi)

    62 Ralph L at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM

    The Creeping Charlie I'm thinking of has little purple flowers that look sort of like orchid. Really tiny, though. And they are kind of hidden most of the time.

    Hard to remove from grass.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 02:23 PM (BVQ+1)

    63 I can't eat gluten, but I can eat plenty of GF bread.

    If I eat just a small amount of wheat, I get horrid sores on my skin that take forever to heal (it's a form of Celiac Disease), so I avoid it like the plague!

    Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 16, 2019 02:26 PM (uDcBt)

    64 Trametes versicolor...google "Turkey tail mushroom".

    The henbit is a cool season weed in the mint (Lamiaceae) family: you can tell by the square stems and the type and shape of the blooms. Tastes like $hit, but you can live on it, as they say

    Amaryllis need a rest period in order to stimulate the formation of a flower stalk: let it dry out somewhere dark and cool-ish for about 6 weeks, then pull it out and treat as normal.

    Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 02:29 PM (adsVM)

    65 Henbit, eh? What clever commenters you all are! ( this is where you curtsey and bow )
    And edible too? Strictly carnivore here but I'll try it out on vegans and tell them no, it is not henbane.

    Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at February 16, 2019 02:33 PM (swldI)

    66 The 'tree mushrooms' have a name which escapes me. However I do know they are harvested to brew natural dyes.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 02:36 PM (7U5Zw)

    67 63 I can't eat gluten, but I can eat plenty of GF bread.

    If I eat just a small amount of wheat, I get horrid sores on my skin that take forever to heal (it's a form of Celiac Disease), so I avoid it like the plague!
    Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 16, 2019 02:26 PM (uDcBt)


    I've got the same thing. Also, gluten affects my thyroid. I haven't eaten wheat in years.

    Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (TdMsT)

    68 I just ordered my JD's C-Tex tomato seeds.
    Seeds were $2.50 but the shipping was $4.95....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (kufk0)

    69 I want to get pepper seeds started as soon as I can, they never seem to get done until after the season is over. Maybe inside in a month.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 02:40 PM (/rm4P)

    70 Have a quick question about moles. Just recently showed up in my yard. I've used some of those chemical worms and bought some of those beeper spikes you insert in the ground to irritate them.

    Anyone else have some experience and tips for getting rid of them?

    Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2019 02:45 PM (uGKH7)

    71 Not much to say about Idaho's Treasure Valley again. A 5th catalog showed up - Burpee Warminster, PA). But we already have all our seeds, so it's mostly useful for fantasizing what flowers we might eventually plant.

    This week's lows have been 25 to 35 F, highs 34 to 52. We've had over an inch of rain this week. When I walked out to the back paddock to get a rake yesterday, parts of the lawn made squish-sounds. Another batch of leaves, damp this time, got dispatched into the trash. Not long after I came in, we had a 2-minute burst of sleet or midget hail!

    Right behind the house, and in a sheltered corner, we have hyacinth bulbs that are about 4 inches tall, daffodils up to 3 inches, and even a few tulip leaves showing. The crocus sprouts in the far back corner look like they've grown a tad, maybe an inch and a half tall now.

    I guess I could mention the gigantic poinsettia a friend gave me at Christmastime. There's a WikiHow on choosing them, and caring for them if you want them to rebloom. So far this one's looking great; though we have a long way to go yet.

    If we want to wait for a waxing moon to plant indoor seeds, I think we wait until March 7th or so.

    Posted by: Pat* at February 16, 2019 02:49 PM (2pX/F)

    72 60 JTB, it sounds like you and I could share shoes. I can grow enough jalapenos to fill the garage fridge with pickled peppers for O.D.Dad, but can't eat them myself. He puts them on everything. I like Anaheims and Bananas. And Poblanos for stuffing.

    The seeds I got are from Territorial Seed Co. I'm also trying what they call a Pizza Pepper. "The heaviest and most thick walled we've ever seen with just a hint of zing." We shall see. I'll let you know.

    Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 16, 2019 02:51 PM (t0Z53)

    73 You can set mouse traps for moles, actually have caught some inside my garage. Try some out in garden, use peanut butter unless got another bait idea.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 02:55 PM (/rm4P)

    74 >>> 68 I just ordered my JD's C-Tex tomato seeds.
    Seeds were $2.50 but the shipping was $4.95....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (kufk0)

    ...yeah, seems pricy for shipping seeds. Hopefully they will give you lots of tomatoes.

    Shouldn't you get some catnip for all those kittens you're getting?

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 16, 2019 02:56 PM (0ReGO)

    75 PS: Next weekend, I'll be attending a 4-H training event. I'll try to post on Saturday night. (But if I happen to miss a week, there probably isn't much to say at this season anyway.)

    Posted by: Pat* at February 16, 2019 02:56 PM (2pX/F)

    76 You can set mouse traps for moles, actually have caught some inside my garage. Try some out in garden, use peanut butter unless got another bait idea.
    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall


    Great idea! Didn't think of that. I'll definitely give that a try.

    Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2019 02:58 PM (uGKH7)

    77 Pets are up!

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 16, 2019 03:01 PM (0ReGO)

    78 72 ... ODM, Thanks for the information. Even I can deal with banana peppers.

    Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2019 03:09 PM (bmdz3)

    Gavin Newsom decides to destroy the planet, maybe go to Washington someday [KT]

    fly california.jpg

    Will we even be able to fly for 100 miles now?

    Good morning. Busy week in Washington. I think I might be able to add a few local details to the California-centered topic below:

    Gavin Newsom decides to destroy the planet

    The new California governor is surprising a lot of people by breaking with some of Jerry Brown's priorities. But his decision to abandon the Los Angeles to San Francisco run of the California high-speed rail project had to be a blow to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. No matter how much she spent on air travel during her campaign, her New Green Deal Resolution initially called for the USA to:

    build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary

    And we only have 10 years to plan and implement this! Or is it 12 years?

    Maybe Lindsey Graham is right. Gavin Newsom has given up on the big push for HSR in California, the fifth largest economy in the world, even with federal help! What hope is there for the planet now? How can we inspire all those countries that hate us to mobilize all their resources to reach zero carbon emissions? Like Mr. Graham says,

    Let's bury the hatchet and enjoy the next 12 years because they are going to be our last, right?

    What shape was the HSR project in before Newsom took office?

    When we last reported on the extraordinarily expensive (but dreamy) Transbay Transit Center, it was due to open in 2017. It apparently opened for bus service in August of 2018 and closed for repairs in September of 2018, It remains closed. Cracked girders were found. After Newsom's recent announcement, backers are wondering how to pay for rail lines into the center:

    Supervisor Aaron Peskin, who chairs the county Transportation Authority board, was unfazed. At this point, he said, San Francisco and the South Bay should go it alone.

    "Our responsibility has always been connecting Santa Clara County to downtown San Francisco by bringing Caltrain to the Transbay Terminal, and we will continue to do that with zeal," he said. "Otherwise, we will have built the most expensive bus terminal in the history of humankind."

    The shorter but more realistic link from Bakersfield to Merced would be a mere shadow of what Newsom described at the 2010 groundbreaking ceremony for the transit center, when he was mayor of San Francisco.

    "We're going to be building ... something that is arguably a generation overdue," he said. "My gosh, I am sick and tired of hearing about how wonderful the transportation system is in France and Japan and 'Have you been to Shanghai?' Or, 'Do you know what they're doing in Beijing?'

    "Well," the mayor continued, "finally California is going to get it right with high-speed rail, and that northern terminus will happen here."

    Back in December of last year, an article was published on what the high-speed rail audit released shortly after the November election really meant. Perhaps this piece played a part in the new Governor's decision to shrink the high-speed rail project. Examples:

    Auditor: "Although the Authority has secured and identified funding of over $28 billion that it expects will be sufficient to complete initial segments, that funding will not be enough to connect those segments, or finish the rest of the system--estimated to cost over $77 billion."

    Translation: The Authority has succeeded in talking both the federal government and the state of California into providing billions of dollars on a failed project and yet still has no idea where the rest of the money will come from.

    Auditor: "It has incrementally modified its plans for a fully dedicated high-speed rail system since 2012 and now intends to share--blend--existing transit infrastructure wherever feasible. Although blending is less costly, it subjects high-speed trains to lower speed limits and may require sharing time on the tracks with other rail operators."

    Translation: All those promises made to voters about getting from San Francisco to Los Angeles in less than three hours were never serious.

    Auditor: "The fact that [the Authority] has now exhausted all feasible options to use existing infrastructure raises concerns about its ability to mitigate future cost increases."

    Translation: The Authority has followed Willie Brown's advice. The former Assembly Speaker, in a moment of candor, once told the San Francisco Chronicle, "In the world of civic projects, the first budget is really just a down payment. If people knew the real cost from the start, nothing would ever be approved. The idea is to get going. Start digging a hole and make it so big, there's no alternative to coming up with the money to fill it in."

    Recently, homeless encampments have sprung up in Fresno on properties purchased (and sometimes cleared) by the High-speed Rail Authority, but not managed by them, apparently. So they become like downtown San Francisco, with needles and poop, plus roaming dogs. The homeless people apparently cannot be removed. There are other forlorn empty, degrading properties elsewhere in the Valley, interspersed with people trying to go on with their lives.

    What will become of Jerry Brown's dream now?

    Some of the few Republicans in Sacramento are not real happy about Newsom's plan for the Bakersfield to Merced route.

    While Newsom, a Democrat, earned a surprising amount of praise from California lawmakers in both Washington and Sacramento for pulling the plug - at least for now - on the rail project between the state's two largest urban areas, some are calling his proposal for a high-speed line between Bakersfield and Merced an unnecessary waste of money that voters in the Central Valley don't want.

    "I would support the citizens of the Central Valley putting this up to a vote again," Shannon Grove, the Republican Minority Leader of the California State Senate, told Fox News.

    Newsom makes some arguments that high speed rail in the Valley would spur economic growth, but I think most people around here would rather have a reliable source of water, road repairs, etc.

    There's a piece in The New Yorker that includes a pretty reasonable short historical summary of the High Speed Rail project in California after starting with this:

    During his first State of the State address, this week, Gavin Newsom, California's newly sworn-in governor, covered immigration, energy, and water policy, but the remark that made the headlines was about the ghost of a long-promised train. "Let's level about high-speed rail," Newsom said in the middle of his speech, in Sacramento, turning to the subject of a bullet train connecting San Francisco and Los Angeles. "The current project, as planned, would cost too much and, respectfully, take too long." Instead, he proposed focussing on a shorter inland route, between Merced and Bakersfield, two small cities that, it's fair to say, most coastal metropolitan Californians happily visit rarely or never. . .

    The news was received as a downer on par with the extinction of the space program. "This country won't experience modern rail travel for another generation--if ever," Fortune lamented on Wednesday, in an otherwise supportive editorial. On Twitter, the governor was compared with the "Simpsons" character Lyle Lanley, who absconded with the takings from a fraudulent monorail scheme. Finally, on Wednesday night, President Trump tweeted, apparently on behalf of the federal government, that he wanted back the money given for the train, which he referred to as a " 'green' disaster."

    It seems to be assumed in the New Yorker article that Jerry Brown's dream is just delayed, not abandoned. Alternative modes of transportation are described, including this:

    The rail connecting San Francisco and Los Angeles is expected be finished in 2033. By that point, autonomous vehicles, green in both power source and roadway efficiency, are expected to be in commercial use--not everywhere, one assumes, but almost certainly on the stretch of highway separating the headquarters of Uber, in San Francisco, and Space X, in L.A. Because autonomous cars are more predictable and more controlled--in short, more train-like--there will be another costly push to streamline existing roadways to their habits. (They can use narrower lanes, for instance.) They also have the virtue, especially in spread-out California, of carrying passengers door to door.

    You will have to read the piece yourself to see if you can follow the analysis of the effects of these policies on inequality.

    I may not agree with all of Dan Walters' positions, but he is an old-time reporter. Started in high school, when he was 16, and never stopped. He retired from the Sacramento Bee in 2017, but kept writing. Didn't go to J-school. I like that. Here he writes on the death, this summer, of a smaller railroad boondoggle. I heard part of discussion about the High Speed Rail project where he was a guest on radio. During the discussion, there were some suggestions that the high speed rail project was really a way to get funds for improved commuter rail in the big coastal cities all along. That's a breathtakingly awful thought. There's a catch with regard to some of that federal money, though:

    When the Obama administration gave California several billion dollars for its proposed high-speed rail project last year, it attached an odd string.

    The money had to be spent, the feds said, on a relatively short stretch in the San Joaquin Valley.

    Why? The official explanation was that it would be the easiest and cheapest segment of a statewide system, could be a demonstration and test track, and could be used for ordinary train service if nothing else happens.

    The real reason probably had much to do with building in the congressional district of a longtime bullet train booster, Democrat Jim Costa, who faced a tough 2010 re-election, although everyone denies that crass motive, of course.

    The political calculus included an assumption that the transportation-starved and economically depressed region would embrace the project - a supposition that's proven to be very shaky, especially among farmers who would lose their land.

    That money was popular with a lot of local politicians in the Valley, but it doesn't directly help people in the coastal power centers upgrade their rail systems. I guess they have to use state money.

    What about the rest of Newsom's State of the State Address?

    Reihan Salam, executive editor of National Review, writing in The Atlantic, seems to rather like some of Newsom's other priorities, such as affordable housing.

    To achieve his objectives, the governor will have to make the case not just for casitas, or accessory dwelling units that can be added to existing homes, or for the occasional smattering of duplexes and townhomes in postindustrial corners of the state where NIMBYs are few and far between. He will have to make an affirmative case for a new way of life, in which Californians embrace multi-family dwellings, walkable neighborhoods, and, sacrilegious though it may sound, trading their private automobiles, or at least their second private automobiles, for increased reliance on buses, bikes, and of course, electric scooters.

    That's today's voice of the National Review, I guess. At least he's not a fan of open borders.

    As a resident of the Central Valley, I prefer the analysis in the City Journal. (h/t J.J. Sefton) It pours some cold water on the Green New Deal, describes fiscal woes of high speed rail even in the UKand includes this:

    . . . Of the many high-speed rail lines built in the developed world, only two (Tokyo-Osaka and Paris-Lyon) have ever been profitable, and in each case highway tolls for the same routes exceed $80 one-way, making high-speed rail in those cases an economical consumer choice. California, the green heart of the resistance, has met fiscal reality; reality won.

    Some greens and train enthusiasts, such as the deep-blue Los Angeles Times editorial board, have criticized Newsom's move, and others remain adamant in their support of the plane-to-train trope. But California, which has embarked on its own Green New Deal of sorts, has seen these results: high energy and housing costs, and the nation's highest cost-adjusted poverty rate, and a society that increasingly resembles a feudal social order. Attempts to refashion global climate in one state reflects either a peculiarly Californian hubris or a surfeit of revolutionary zeal.

    Of course, Newsom and the bullet train's supporters justify spending billions more on the Central Valley line as a way of reviving the terribly challenged, impoverished economy of that region. Yet greens and their allies have already shown what comes of putting their ideas into practice--cutting water supplies to farmers, blocking new energy production, and leaving Route 99, the Valley's main thoroughfare, in such awful shape that it has been named the country's most dangerous highway. The Valley does not need a bullet train to nowhere. It needs, rather, policies that allow for its basic industries, such as agriculture, manufacturing, and energy, to expand and provide desperately needed jobs. Oil-rich California has been replacing in-state production for imported petroleum, to the enrichment of Saudi Arabia but to the detriment of California workers.

    Gavin Newsom's Future

    Dan Walters is a long-time critic of the California HSR project, and he remains a critic of Newsom's new plan:

    Casting aside Brown's obvious love for a statewide system linking Sacramento and San Francisco in the north to Los Angeles and San Diego in the south, Newsom called for completing just the roughly 100-mile-long initial San Joaquin Valley segment, from Merced to near Bakersfield, and making it a high-speed system.

    However, electrifying the track now under construction and buying high-speed trains to run on it would be an enormously expensive gesture for such short service. More likely, the stretch of track, when completed, will be folded into the region's existing Amtrak service.

    But about the rest of the State of the State address, Walters wrote:

    All in all, Newsom set an ambitious agenda for his governorship, the sort of multi-point plan that Brown had often denigrated. And in doing so, the new governor set a high mark for his political future.

    Achieving all he seeks would propel him into White House contention sometime after 2020. Failing, for whatever reason, would make him a footnote in California's political history.

    What do you think of his prospects for a White House race?

    Music

    There is already Amtrak service from Bakersfield to Merced. I personally haven't heard many folks from down in Bakersfield hankerin' for an extra-fast trip to Merced. Think politicians will ever help the train station in Bakersfield hit the big time?

    Hope you have a great weekend.

    Remember, This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread

    Serving your mid-day open thread needs

    Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:16 AM




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    1 Not first.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:13 AM (DMUuz)

    2 Not second.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:14 AM (DMUuz)

    3 Not trifecta.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:14 AM (DMUuz)

    4 As to HSR , I've done the TGV in France, Paris Lyon and Madrid to Seville . After the first half hour, it's just another train . And I love trains. No Biggie none at all

    Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at February 16, 2019 11:15 AM (3GR94)

    5 Apparently, at some point you DO run out of other peoples' money.

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 11:16 AM (AMIL/)

    6 Merced can look forward to be flooded with rich tourists from Bakersfield, so there's that.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:17 AM (UGqF8)

    7 AOC needs to take the Marakesh express train to Casablanca.

    Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2019 11:17 AM (2d2h5)

    8

    Damn good post, KT.
    OK, gotta go get B'Gal operational.
    Y'all try to behave.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:18 AM (HaL55)

    9 The Merced to Bakersfield run will only work from a business standpoint if they charge for the goats and the chickens. NO FREE RIDERS!

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:19 AM (UGqF8)

    10 build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary

    600 mph plane that makes no stops vs. 300 mph (best) ground-based that can't go full out, has to avoid obstacles, and will make numerous stops.

    Sure.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:20 AM (oVJmc)

    11 Illegal alien farm workers get too ride on the roof for free, just like in India.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:20 AM (UGqF8)

    12 Nice touch with Ringo and Buck.

    My first thought when I heard "Bakersfield to Merced" was "There's a Buck Owens or Merle Haggard song just waiting to be written there."

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:20 AM (0OWcv)

    13 "The idea is to get going. Start digging a hole and make it so big, there's no alternative to coming up with the money to fill it in."
    -- Willie Brown

    Phrasing!

    Posted by: Kamala! at February 16, 2019 11:21 AM (DMUuz)

    14 Oh, and high-speed rail through the Rockies?

    Through snow?
    Rain?

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:21 AM (oVJmc)

    15 14 Oh, and high-speed rail through the Rockies?

    Through snow?
    Rain?
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:21 AM (oVJmc)

    --------

    They'll call it The John Kasich Express.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:23 AM (UGqF8)

    16 At 300mph, when that sucker goes off the rails there won't be anything left.

    Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2019 11:23 AM (wBNep)

    17 I have read that the U.S. freight by railroad ranks quite high. When you don't have to constantly shunt the slower freight trains onto a siding to let the faster passenger carriers by it probably does work better. Plus this is a vast land area country that needs a good system to augment shipping by waterway.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 11:23 AM (jUcoH)

    18 Walls are old technology but trains are the future.

    Ok then.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:24 AM (/tuJf)

    19 > I have read that the U.S. freight by railroad ranks quite high.

    Rail is second only to ocean transport when it comes to moving freight cheaply.

    Of course, most freight doesn't care if it takes a week or even a month to get there.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:25 AM (0OWcv)

    20 Gavin Newsome in the White House? It would make the Obama years seem like Springtime in America. Just look at San Fransisco where he was Mayor.

    Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 16, 2019 11:25 AM (+S1Fy)

    21 There's more than one way to "run a train", IYKWIMAITYD.

    Posted by: Donkey Chompers at February 16, 2019 11:26 AM (DMUuz)

    22 High Speed Bail - The rate at which California politicians back paddle away from that money hole.

    Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2019 11:26 AM (cCxiu)

    23 The greenie leftists have moved mountains literally to tear up and pave over all of the existing rail tracks here in New England. Only along the shore and in selected areas inland are there any tracks to speak of.

    They have implemented so many 'green trails' and whatnot that a high speed rail system couldn't possibly be implemented in this entire section of the country, at least not without a heck of a lot of eminent domain proceedings.

    So where exactly would these high speed rails be placed?

    Posted by: squeakywheel at February 16, 2019 11:27 AM (muUop)

    24 Great book, "The White Cascade, The Great Northern Railway Disaster and America's Deadliest Avalanche" written by Gary Krist.

    High speed trains can't go over or through mountain passes. Heck, low speed trains can barely make it during a winter storm.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:28 AM (PkVlr)

    25 Remind me one day to tell you about the time I had coffee with him soon after Brown appointed him to the PoliceCommission.

    Can't now. On the way to Portland.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 16, 2019 11:28 AM (dmppM)

    26 # Bring back Zepplins

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:29 AM (/rm4P)

    27 Auditor: "It has incrementally modified its plans for a fully dedicated
    high-speed rail system since 2012 and now intends to
    share--blend--existing transit infrastructure wherever feasible.
    Although blending is less costly, it subjects high-speed trains to lower
    speed limits and may require sharing time on the tracks with other rail
    operators."



    Translation: We'll be shifting HSR passengers to oxcarts and donkeys midway through their trip from nowhere to nowhere.

    Newsom called for completing just the roughly 100-mile-long initial San
    Joaquin Valley segment, from Merced to near Bakersfield, and making it a
    high-speed system.

    However, electrifying the track now under construction and buying
    high-speed trains to run on it would be an enormously expensive gesture
    for such short service. More likely, the stretch of track, when
    completed, will be folded into the region's existing Amtrak service.



    It's like flying the Concorde from Reagan to Dulles.





    "We're going to be building ... something that is arguably a generation
    overdue," he said. "My gosh, I am sick and tired of hearing about how
    wonderful the transportation system is in France and Japan and 'Have you
    been to Shanghai?' Or, 'Do you know what they're doing in Beijing?'
    "Well," the mayor continued


    Oh no, he's tired of it. Well, that's all I need to hear. Take my money now.

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 11:29 AM (T6t7i)

    28 Well double crap.
    Didn't even get to tell Backwordsboy reply in last thread.

    Insomniac, think it's great you're playing. Don't worry about the disconnect thing. It'll come.
    And don't be like me! Never had a lesson. Get a few and work on those rudiments!! Never have any real speed without em.

    Most important advice I could give would be play to the song. If it doesn't call for much, don't do much.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 11:31 AM (/SHNS)

    29 > oxcarts and donkeys

    Sounds like a lesbian sex act between Stacy "Tank" Abrams and Sandy OCrazyHo Kotex.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:31 AM (0OWcv)

    30 # Bring back Zepplins

    That's in poor taste.

    Posted by: John Bonham at February 16, 2019 11:31 AM (dCRRg)

    31 > Bring back Zepplins

    Definitely a civilized way to travel. Slow, though, and not so good in storms.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:32 AM (0OWcv)

    32 Look on the bright side, lots of Leftist grifters made a few bucks on this HSR.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:32 AM (/rm4P)

    33 The shorter but more realistic link from Bakersfield to Merced

    Here's the thing: if your stated goal is to connect SF to LA, you wouldn't go anywhere near Merced or Bakersfield, just like nobody takes 99 when going from LA to SF.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 11:32 AM (n/eZB)

    34 10
    build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary

    600
    mph plane that makes no stops vs. 300 mph (best) ground-based that
    can't go full out, has to avoid obstacles, and will make numerous stops.


    Related: Airbus is shutting down the assembly line for the A380, because, get this, nobody wants to pay for big, bloated, uneconomical transportation, when more flexible, convenient, and cheaper options exist. Boeing, FTW.

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 11:32 AM (T6t7i)

    35 > Look on the bright side, lots of Leftist grifters made a few bucks on this HSR.

    That is the real reason it's being scrapped now. All the Important People have already got their payoffs, so there's no need to spend any more money actually laying track.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:33 AM (0OWcv)

    36 Even by their metric, I'd like to see is a per-passenger comparison between a transcontinental plane flight vs. transcontinental high-sped rail.

    I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles. So even there their plan would fail.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

    37 When it comes to wasting money, Newsom is a pussy.

    Posted by: Zombie Ted "Big Dig" Kennedy at February 16, 2019 11:34 AM (ABjxW)

    38 > I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles.

    You are way wrong there.

    Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.



    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (0OWcv)

    39 And full rigged sailing ships, worked for hundreds of years, only a few weeks to go from Hawaii to California.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (/rm4P)

    40 Nobody ever said, "boy, I wish I was in Merced already!"

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (oTMWb)

    41
    I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles. So even there their plan would fail.
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

    --------

    But just think of all the jobs that would be created to build the L.A. to Hong Kong causeway.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (UGqF8)

    42 the good "environmental" ideas get ruined because the "greenies" are really subversive commies, intent on first destroying traditional America. Well intentioned activists that originate decent concepts, tend to get pushed aside by the commie infiltrators. Co-opting movements is what commies/progs do.


    My area is not the greatest for solar, but I plan to capture the 30% rebate this year, on a 10kW grid tie system. If the greenies get more control and shut down coal again, I'd have some security. It will also be a buffer against rate increases and/or the Illinois mafia trying to milk us all via taxes. But if we ever get those thorium reactors, energy gets cheap (but does our government want cheap energy, or as Obama said, "electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket").

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 11:37 AM (Cus5s)

    43 Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.

    Coal and gravel wouldn't put up with the small seats and crappy attitude on airplanes?

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 11:37 AM (T6t7i)

    44 >>Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.

    Those aren't passengers.

    Rail is great for hauling big heavy loads of freight efficiently. Not so much with passengers.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:37 AM (/tuJf)

    45 I'm no fan of overpriced government boondoggles like the Cal. train project, and shutting it down is the right thing. But it's another symptom of a disease in our once proud nation which is: We can't do anything big any more. That many billions for a few hundred miles of rail line, even if it's built for high speeds? The elevated transit center in SanFran that's closed because the large support girders cracked is another example. Most of downtown Chicago seems to be built on girders - how was that built? Look at the military. The F-35 airplane was in development for about 20 years and is still full of problems. The Littoral Combat Ship, the Zumwalt "stealth" ship are also money pits that may never be effective combat tools compared to what other nations are fielding.

    As a nation we've become the bumbling homeowner who assembled a garden shed only to have it fall over when he opened the door. We've lost something - and I give us very small chance of ever getting it back.

    Posted by: George V at February 16, 2019 11:37 AM (LUHWu)

    46 Go long on Merced Snow Globes and Novelty T-shirts.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:38 AM (UGqF8)

    47 35 Yeah, why drag this Ponzi scheme out?

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:38 AM (/rm4P)

    48 You are way wrong there.



    Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.


    Not at 300 miles an hour, they don't.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:38 AM (oVJmc)

    49 43 Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.

    Coal and gravel wouldn't put up with the small seats and crappy attitude on airplanes?
    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 11:37 AM (T6t7i)

    Coal can pay its own way, and cover gravel's trip

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 11:39 AM (ABjxW)

    50 Look at the military. The F-35 airplane was in development for about 20
    years and is still full of problems. The Littoral Combat Ship, the
    Zumwalt "stealth" ship are also money pits that may never be effective
    combat tools compared to what other nations are fielding.


    I get your point, but to be fair, there are orders of magnitude more complexity in an F-35 than a P-51. There's no good explanation for the Zumwalt, other than hubris.

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

    51 It would probably be cost-effective to ship helium by air since it requires no lift.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:40 AM (UGqF8)

    52 Bonjour!

    Posted by: The Montgolfier Brothers at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (ZxU8C)

    53 The amusing thing is Europe is not using trains the way they used to. They use these things called airplanes now for much of the travel within Europe.

    Somehow this seems to have escaped the notice of our leftist betters.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (/tuJf)

    54 > Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.


    Energy cost in BTU/ton-mile:

    Water: 217
    Class 1 Railroad: 289
    Heavy trucks: 3,357
    Air: 9,600

    > Those aren't passengers.

    Doesn't matter. Rail is still way more energy-efficient.

    People go by air because it is fast, not because it is energy-efficient.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (0OWcv)

    55 "My parents went to Merced and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (UGqF8)

    56
    Coal can pay its own way, and cover gravel's trip
    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 11:39 AM (ABjxW)
    -----
    I always thought coal and gravel were just afraid of flying.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (MVjcR)

    57 Six-car, electrified, bonafide monorail!

    Posted by: Lyle Lanley at February 16, 2019 11:41 AM (QLvwG)

    58 I'm no fan of overpriced government boondoggles like the Cal. train project, and shutting it down is the right thing. But it's another symptom of a disease in our once proud nation which is: We can't do anything big any more.


    We can do big. What we can't cover is the vig.

    We cannot cover the graft.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 11:43 AM (qpKia)

    59 Time to take another look at free enterprise, California?

    Posted by: Cornelius Vanderbilt at February 16, 2019 11:43 AM (ZxU8C)

    60 Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (0OWcv)


    Only use locally-sourced gravel!

    Posted by: Little lefty loopy Lou at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (4HMW8)

    61
    The Littoral Combat Ship, the Zumwalt "stealth" ship are also money pits that may never be effective combat tools compared to what other nations are fielding.


    At three hubdred million a pop the Littoral Combat Ship isn't in the same league as the Zumwalt as far as boondoggles go.

    Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (TAmPV)

    62 We cannot cover the graft.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 11:43 AM (qpKia)

    ---------

    Don't forget the hyper-regulation that requires 25 agencies to sign off on every new project.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (UGqF8)

    63 "As a nation we've become the bumbling homeowner who assembled a garden
    shed only to have it fall over when he opened the door. We've lost
    something - and I give us very small chance of ever getting it back."



    We built the Hoover Dam with steam shovels, manual labor and a shitload of Model AA trucks. Yet they did on time and under budget.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (4thlk)

    64 26 # Bring back Zeppelins
    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:29 AM (/rm4P)
    ---
    This.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (kQs4Y)

    65 Remember, it's all about the CFU equivalents.

    Science!

    Posted by: Donkey Chompers at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (DMUuz)

    66 "Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that" Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


    ha, yeah I was gonna say, trains are very efficient on energy. But when they are hauling light weight humans, most of the cargo is the train itself. So that would be a different calculation. (and the time/congestion factor would also matter)

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 11:45 AM (Cus5s)

    67 Bring back Zeppelins
    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:29 AM


    Illuminated with very energy-efficient lighting devices, of course.

    LED Zeppelins.

    Posted by: Donkey Chompers at February 16, 2019 11:45 AM (DMUuz)

    68 We built the Hoover Dam with steam shovels, manual labor and a shitload of Model AA trucks. Yet they did on time and under budget.
    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 11:44 AM (4thlk)

    ---------

    There was no EPA back then, nor reams of federal environmental legislation that permit "citizens suits" to enforce them.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:46 AM (UGqF8)

    69 We built the Hoover Dam with steam shovels, manual labor and a shitload of Model AA trucks. Yet they did on time and under budget.
    Posted by: lowandslow


    Minus the EPA and OSHA.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 11:46 AM (qpKia)

    70 Big projects are complex. We went to the moon, but not without burning up some astronauts and almost losing another crew in transit. The space shuttle worked pretty well, except for the couple of times it didn't. Failure is part of any big endeavor.

    Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 16, 2019 11:46 AM (H5knJ)

    71 >>Doesn't matter. Rail is still way more energy-efficient.


    It does when the comment you were replying to says this:

    >>Even by their metric, I'd like to see is a per-passenger comparison between a transcontinental plane flight vs. transcontinental high-sped rail.

    >>I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles. So even there their plan would fail.

    Mr Peebles was talking about passenger travel not freight travel. Hauling 300 passengers on a train coast to coast is a different equation than hauling a mile long train full of freight.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:47 AM (/tuJf)

    72 Bet Caligirl would trade some rail for some water.

    Posted by: Golfman at February 16, 2019 11:48 AM (OE84+)

    73 Donkey-Chompers want us to travel way up in the air, in a beautiful balloon. Up, up and away.

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 11:48 AM (ABjxW)

    74 Someone here at the HQ once linked an article that said there was only one place in the US where mass transit used less fuel than commuters driving their own cars.

    That place was Phoenix, AZ, which is not the model leftist city.

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 11:48 AM (4HMW8)

    75 > But when they are hauling light weight humans, most of the cargo is the train itself.

    Airliners aren't weightless, either.


    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:48 AM (0OWcv)

    76 I'm just trying to help Sandy O-C out, I'm not flying anywhere anytime soon

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:49 AM (/rm4P)

    77 > Mr Peebles was talking about passenger travel not freight travel. Hauling 300 passengers on a train coast to coast is a different equation than hauling a mile long train full of freight.

    It's not 33 times more, or anything like it.



    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:49 AM (0OWcv)

    78 Someone made the point a while back that if North America had been discovered today rather than 500 years ago, it would have stayed a wilderness because there would be no way that any of it could be legally developed.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:50 AM (UGqF8)

    79 High speed trains can't go over or through mountain passes. Heck, low speed trains can barely make it during a winter storm.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:28 AM (PkVlr)


    Sure they can, if the rails are made of the Rearden Metal stuff that was talked about in an HBO series I saw, based on a book called "Attila Surrendered" or something like that!

    Posted by: Alexandria Occasionally-Conscious at February 16, 2019 11:50 AM (AMIL/)

    80 31 > Bring back Zepplins

    Definitely a civilized way to travel. Slow, though, and not so good in storms.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:32 AM (0OWcv)


    Hey, the government can control climate, so storms should be a piece of cake.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 11:50 AM (sdi6R)

    81 "Only use locally-sourced gravel"

    for building roads and such, they do tend to find local sources ... lots of limestone around. Coal as well, but some bulk items need longer hauls.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 11:51 AM (Cus5s)

    82 The government?!? C'mon rickl, you know who controls the weather.

    Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 16, 2019 11:51 AM (H5knJ)

    83 Local gravel is sustainable, or something.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:51 AM (UGqF8)

    84
    >>I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles. So even there their plan would fail.


    Trains are diesel electric and electric motors are far more efficent pulling heavy loads.

    Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 16, 2019 11:52 AM (TAmPV)

    85 The government?!? C'mon rickl, you know who controls the weather.
    Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls



    JJ Sefton does!

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 11:52 AM (qpKia)

    86 >>It's not 33 times more, or anything like it.

    Probably not. But then it also doesn't take 5 days so you have to include food, sleeping cars and other basic amenities humans need for a 5 day trip they don't need for a 5 hour flight.

    My grandfather took me on the Santa Fe Super Chief from Chicago to LA when I was a kid. It was great fun for a 6 year old.

    Only problem was we had to drive from NY to Chicago because there was no coast to coast train and then spend 3 days on the train. I had more time to be leisurely when I was 6.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:53 AM (/tuJf)

    87 The chief virtue of the Clitoral Combat Ship is that you can never find it.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:54 AM (oVJmc)

    88 The Hooterville Cannonball ran from Hooterville to Pixley and back on a forgotten, disconnected spur.

    Just like Merced to Bakersfield.

    Posted by: Count de Monet at February 16, 2019 11:55 AM (QLvwG)

    89 It's not just about the EPA and environmentalists sabotaging government projects, it's the built in stonewalling between all government agencies. Ever see how even a small government project gets done? You got the feds handing out the money then delegating a state agency to run it and then the bureaucracy steps in. The state engineers awards the contracts and all of the sudden nothing goes right; environmental impact reports, material specs, subcontractors meeting federal guidelines, state code vs. local code, etc., etc.


    It's fucking embarrassing.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 11:55 AM (4thlk)

    90 Ronald Reagan to Gavin Newsom. Unbelievable how far California has fallen.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 11:56 AM (H8QX8)

    91 Y'all can mock me if you like, but I believe oil/petroleum is a renewable resource. Also, I think it is one of the most efficient fuels for transportation. And so far, we don't know what good it is doing just sitting in the ground. It's probably better for the environment that we take it out of the ground and use it.

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 11:56 AM (4HMW8)

    92 "Airliners aren't weightless, either.Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


    I was leaving the math up to someone else ... a quick search says plane train car ... 41, 50, 52 ... miles per gallon per passenger. Bus is the winner at 150.


    I bet the cost by train for heavy cargo is the cheapest by far (excluding by ship/barge).

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

    93 91 Y'all can mock me if you like, but I believe oil/petroleum is a renewable resource.

    ---------

    Yes, Dinosaurs are dying all the time.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (UGqF8)

    94 Looks like an Amtrak Superliner car can carry 75 passengers, and weighs 174,000 pounds, so about 2,320 pounds per passenger.

    A Boeing 737-800 carries 162 passengers and weighs 91,300 pounds, for 563 pounds per passenger.

    That's 4x differential in vehicle weight per passenger.

    4x differential in dead weight does not come anywhere close to canceling out the 33x differential in fuel efficiency.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (0OWcv)

    95 Here's how you know hauling passengers by rail won't work: the rail companies are t doing it. They are already hauling freight all over the country all day, every day. It would cost them very little to add a passenger car to the current trains, and compete with bus service. But they don't, because the pain in the ass of hauling passengers is not worth the little bit of money you could make carrying people across the country in a week.

    Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 16, 2019 11:58 AM (KCxuz)

    96 High speed trains can't go over or through mountain passes. Heck, low speed trains can barely make it during a winter storm.

    They just need to go faster!

    Posted by: AOC at February 16, 2019 11:58 AM (oTMWb)

    97 Did someone say bury a hatchet?

    Posted by: LizzyBorden at February 16, 2019 11:59 AM (0tfLf)

    98 Amtrak has no cross country passenger train competition and still can't make it without government subsidies.

    "it mostly involves dealing with the system's 15 little-traveled longer routes that lose nearly $600 million each year."

    From WaPo 2013:
    https://wapo.st/2S7NyNR

    We did trains in the 50's. Until air travel became superior. We aren't going backwards.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 11:59 AM (qpKia)

    99 More like "devastate the American economy so that air travel is no longer is necessary." Serfs [what's left of them] building mud huts have no reason to go to Disneyland. Planet saved.

    Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 16, 2019 11:59 AM (RlJz8)

    100 High speed trains can't go over or through mountain passes.


    We'll go underground.
    High Speed Subway.

    Winning!!!

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (8ikIW)

    101 4x differential in dead weight does not come anywhere close to canceling out the 33x differential in fuel efficiency.



    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (0OWcv)


    Coefficient of friction, that pesky thing.

    Posted by: Count de Monet at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (QLvwG)

    102 and the cost for train probably goes way up when considering Amtrak is only 1/3 full most of the time (or whatever it is)

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (Cus5s)

    103 Ya know, Crazy Eyes-Horsey Teeth has a fixation on "running train". I guess she never experienced "flying plane". Multiple orgasms! Of course, our new muslim representatives will never know that pleasure.

    Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (3sjI6)

    104 > But then it also doesn't take 5 days

    Did I not say "People go by air because it is fast, not because it is energy-efficient."? Stop trying to move the goal posts.


    Peebles original statement was "I don't see air travel burning that much more energy than dragging a train overland for 3000 miles."

    Which is ridiculous on its face. Sorry, but it is.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (0OWcv)

    105 We'll go underground.
    High Speed Subway.

    Winning!!!
    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:00 PM (8ikIW)

    Wasn't that a High Speed Subway Jussie was eating before he was lynched?

    Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 16, 2019 12:01 PM (3sjI6)

    106 "More like "devastate the American economy so that air travel is no longer is necessary."

    That's more like it. Much easier and right in their wheelhouse.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (H8QX8)

    107 Walls are old technology but trains are the future.



    Ok then.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 11:24 AM (/tuJf)


    One can get a tumor trying to figure out leftist reasoning.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (9Om/r)

    108 Have you looked at Amtrak schedules and fares? Driving cross-country is much more appealing. And you retain your freedom.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (f6lTY)

    109 AARRGGHHH. No internet all morning until now. Finally. Maybe had to wait for the ice to melt off the cell tower?

    Sad and embarrassing that the web has become such a primary tool. Especially when I only have one connection and it's down.

    Tell me how Tell me how Tell me how Tell me how
    Tell me how many games of Sol did I play today?

    Got some household chores done, though.

    Posted by: mindful webworker's frustrating Saturday morning at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (Kvnw4)

    110 High Speed Rail in America is a retarded, juice box idea.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (5jrhZ)

    111 Yes, Dinosaurs are dying all the time.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (UGqF


    Are you saying only dinosaur carcasses eventually turn into oil, but not those of any other critters?

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 12:03 PM (4HMW8)

    112 And you retain your freedom.
    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (f6lTY)

    That's the catch for the entire GND. The biggest problem it needs to solve.

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 12:03 PM (ABjxW)

    113 110 High Speed Rail in America is a retarded, juice box idea.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (5jrhZ)

    -------

    But commies love their trains.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:03 PM (UGqF8)

    114 >>Coefficient of friction, that pesky thing.


    You are telling me!

    Posted by: RBG at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (5jrhZ)

    115 111 Yes, Dinosaurs are dying all the time.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:57 AM (UGqF

    Are you saying only dinosaur carcasses eventually turn into oil, but not those of any other critters?
    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 12:03 PM (4HMW

    ---------

    Yes. It's SCIENCE

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (UGqF8)

    116
    But commies love their trains.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:03 PM (UGqF

    And you know who else loved trains.

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (ABjxW)

    117 But commies love their trains.
    Posted by: Cicero

    And hate straws.

    A strange group, ain't they?

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (8ikIW)

    118 I forgot how many billions are funneled into Amtrak every year.
    Makes paying for a wall chump change.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (/rm4P)

    119 Oh Willie Brown. California should stop his retirement pay and if he complains, just say that if he knew what they were going to pay him, he wouldn't have taken the job.

    Posted by: Darth Randall at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (p0nVR)

    120 12 Nice touch with Ringo and Buck.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 11:20 AM (0OWcv)
    ---------------------------
    Yes --- though Dwight Yoakam and Buck doing "Streets of Bakersfield" would have been much better!

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (Rxduq)

    121 Just about everyone I know that rode on Amtrak did it out of one time curiosity more than anything else.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (4thlk)

    122 Y'all can mock me if you like, but I believe oil/petroleum is a renewable resource.

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 11:56 AM (4HMW

    "Abiotic genesis"....iirc. The Russians were researching this....anyone know where it's at now?

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:05 PM (cxHbL)

    123 " Amtrak Superliner car can carry 75 passengers" add in the engines ... figure 25 passengers ... rail maintenance versus air maintenance ...

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:05 PM (Cus5s)

    124 121 Just about everyone I know that rode on Amtrak did it out of one time curiosity more than anything else.
    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (4thlk)

    Sounds like all of Donkey-Chomper's boyfriends.

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 12:05 PM (ABjxW)

    125 High Speed Rail in America is a retarded, juice box idea.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:02 PM (5jrhZ)


    No kidding, especially since we should have personal Death Stars by now. We got shit rolling around on mars and these shit heads want us to return to the old west. Whats next, stage coaches?

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:06 PM (9Om/r)

    126 Funny, I had to explain the High Speed Rail Boondoggle to a friend and his wife the other day.

    ...along with why we don't have High Speed Rail and a lessson on Economics thrown in there to explain that IF we needed or wanted it, we would already have it.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:06 PM (5jrhZ)

    127 "Abiotic genesis"....iirc. The Russians were researching this....anyone know where it's at now?
    Posted by: BignJames


    Not sure where it's at, but the Russians aren't the only ones. We've been pumping previously "dry holes" for awhile now.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:06 PM (qpKia)

    128 I was disappointed that that HS term paper didn't include fusion powered flying cars.

    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 12:07 PM (ABjxW)

    129 600 mph plane that makes no stops vs. 300 mph (best) ground-based that can't go full out, has to avoid obstacles, and will make numerous stops.

    Sure.
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:20 AM (oVJmc)

    It would be instructive for these pols to make them drive I-70 west from the Mississippi. Seeing the Rocky Mountains slowly become visible from over a hundred miles out and then rise to block much of the sky might help them understand why people choose to fly. No high speed train is going to deal with those mountains safely.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 12:07 PM (uquGJ)

    130 Shooter had an IL FOID despite having a prior felony conviction. Police chief says background check for FOID would not have shown conviction. Does a FOID replace NICS when buying a gun? Would NICS have shown the conviction, and stopped the sale?

    Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2019 12:07 PM (MwFQu)

    131 Just about everyone I know that rode on Amtrak did it out of one time curiosity more than anything else.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (4thlk)

    Thought about a xcountry train trip....once. 1.too slow 2.too expensive.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:08 PM (cxHbL)

    132 Last time I checked no one really knows how we have oil.
    I mean, we HAVE oil, and we know how and where to get it, but no one knows for sure the why or how of it.

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 12:08 PM (w7KSn)

    133 128 I was disappointed that that HS term paper didn't include fusion powered flying cars.
    Posted by: Roy at February 16, 2019 12:07 PM (ABjxW)

    --------

    Flying cars would only give dangerous freedom to the proles, and we can't have that in a Glorious Socialist Utopia.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:08 PM (UGqF8)

    134 Just about everyone I know that rode on Amtrak did it out of one time curiosity more than anything else.
    Posted by: lowandslow
    --------

    Well, myself and friends used it as the Designated Driver for drunken trips from Atlanta to New Orleans and back.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:08 PM (U2TY5)

    135 The reason this country doesn't have HSR is because we have the freedom of choice. We chose automobile transportation a long time ago and, so far, the vast majority has never looked back.

    This country used to have very efficient passenger rail service (it was envied worldwide) until the car and the airplane came along. Cars gave us more freedom and airplanes were many times faster and more direct.

    This nation's railroads right now are very healthy and are moving vast amounts of commerce. Our rail freight system is the envy of the world.

    Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

    136 I can take the train from Chicago to Harrisburg PA to visit my SIL. My SIL will do this to visit us.
    It's about a 24 hour trip, sometimes made longer because freight trains have priority over AMTRAK.
    Or I can drive it in a little over 12 hours.

    Which one to choose?

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:09 PM (8ikIW)

    137 Here's a paper about abiotic genesis:

    https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3a3ptcf

    Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2019 12:09 PM (4HMW8)

    138 "Sounds like all of Donkey-Chomper's boyfriends."



    Someone linked to picture of him earlier. A big ginger dofuss that probably spends half his day crying about his masculinity.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:09 PM (4thlk)

    139 I laugh at Seattle while watching the Mariners play. They all enjoy the sound of the trains as they pass literally right next to the outfield wall. Hundreds and hundreds of cars carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil.
    And then....so sanctimoniously green.

    Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2019 12:10 PM (0tfLf)

    140 that's the link that says planes are actually a little cheaper than trains, in gallons per passenger mile. A bus is by far the best, 3x better. (not counting container ships full of chinese illegals)


    https://tinyurl.com/y574cveo

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:10 PM (Cus5s)

    141 The only route that would begin to make sense is Manhattan to DC, with no stops in between.

    If you go to LA, well, where in LA? Anywhere it is is not near where you need to go. And now you don't have a car.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:10 PM (mhs6e)

    142 Last time I checked no one really knows how we have oil.
    I mean, we HAVE oil, and we know how and where to get it, but no one knows for sure the why or how of it.
    Posted by: navybrat


    Exactly. Hard to believe that the earf supported, and THAT many dinosaurs lived, for the amount of oil used since being discovered.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:11 PM (qpKia)

    143 Margarita de Ville--

    Amen about "Streets of Bakersfield." One of my top five favorite country songs. And it even has lines that applies to the left's attitude toward normals:

    You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?

    Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 16, 2019 12:11 PM (S+f+m)

    144 >>Did I not say "People go by air because it is fast, not because it is energy-efficient."? Stop trying to move the goal posts.


    I'm not. And you forgot to add in the weight of the locomotive. A passenger railcar doesn't move very fast or efficiently without a locomotive.

    We have no real metrics for high speed rail which was the original metric because it doesn't exist. You must also add in the cost of the rail which also doesn't exist not to mention the land which would have to be acquired. All of those things need to be factored is as part of the cost because they do not exist whereas the planes and airports do.

    I completely agree with you that trains are the most efficient way to move freight. And yes, slow speed trains are more efficient if you don't care about time.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:11 PM (/tuJf)

    145 >>The only route that would begin to make sense is Manhattan to DC, with no stops in between.


    And only if they were seperated by a wide, flat and uninhabited plain.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (5jrhZ)

    146 Great piece by Roger Kimball a usual.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321971/

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (BXMxN)

    147 That is a good Q to leftists. How come using 500 year old windmill technology is good but using 3000 year old wall technology is bad. And on drones and the 'high tech' things. Ahem, walls are absolutely neutral and require no force to achieve their purpose. There is a reason rich people have walls around their estates. Even when the wall would cost more than hiring an armed guard the wall is for sure not going to end up shooting some kid and landing rich person with a lawsuit. Drones cant enforce a border unless they are armed and could shoot people trying to cross. Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country? How is the drone AI or human operator going to determine if its an MS-13 member or just a peasant looking to find work picking grapes? We should have a wall and a real worker visa program so dairy farmers are requesting visas, then they can pay less but they are not ducking all the non salary costs like hiring an illegal under the table allows.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (jUcoH)

    148 I am most struck by how the Greens spend these vast sums on their pet dreams when there are other, concrete problems that need to be addressed, like just fixing and maintaining the local highway.

    On an international scale, think of all the money that has been wasted on trying to fight "climate change" while the need for clean water supply continues to grow.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (Rxduq)

    149 Separated. Needs moar coffee.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (5jrhZ)

    150 You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
    Posted by: Art Rondolet
    -------

    I used walk out on the streets of Laredo.

    Posted by: Ghey Young Cowboy at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (/dN1M)

    151 They have implemented so many 'green trails' and whatnot that a high speed rail system couldn't possibly be implemented in this entire section of the country, at least not without a heck of a lot of eminent domain proceedings.

    You won't need that land while you are in the re-education concentration camps.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (lD3vL)

    152 Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:04 PM (4thlk)

    John and I looked into Amtrack for our honeymoon, just to have a completely different experience. We said "Wow, no" after finding out the price, much less the inconvenience, and went to Vegas for a week instead.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (uquGJ)

    153 I want to see a High Speed Train hit a moose while going flat out.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (5jrhZ)

    154 Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country?



    Do you really want an honest answer?

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (qpKia)

    155 Somebody posted once here US Geological surveys (or newspaper stories about the surveys)with dire predictions of the oil supply going back to the 30's at least.

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (BXMxN)

    156 Exactly. Hard to believe that the earf supported, and THAT many dinosaurs lived, for the amount of oil used since being discovered.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:11 PM (qpKia)

    --------

    I've never looked it up, but I would guess that the combined biomass of unicellular organisms in the ocean over 2.5 billion years probably exceeds the biomass of all land animals by a hefty margin.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (UGqF8)

    157 >>Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country?


    Me? Personally?


    Yes.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:14 PM (5jrhZ)

    158 I am most struck by how the Greens spend these vast sums on their pet dreams when there are other, concrete problems that need to be addressed, like just fixing and maintaining the local highway.
    -------

    Here, the Progs are constantly preening over bike lanes and greenways. Meanwhile, the streets are full of potholes and trash.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:14 PM (/dN1M)

    159 I've never looked it up, but I would guess that the combined biomass of unicellular organisms in the ocean over 2.5 billion years probably exceeds the biomass of all land animals by a hefty margin.
    Posted by: Cicero

    Little bastards were farting out CO2, too!

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (8ikIW)

    160 You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
    Posted by: Art Rondolet
    -------

    I used walk out on the streets of Laredo.
    Posted by: Ghey Young Cowboy


    I stood on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (qpKia)

    161 153 I want to see a High Speed Train hit a moose while going flat out.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (5jrhZ)


    ---------

    I see a great idea for an episode of Mythbusters.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (UGqF8)

    162 Amtrak from Quincy to Chicago was useful ... but it has to be pretty close to your departure and destination for it to work, and Amtrak loses money. Same problem with commuter flights from Quincy to Chicago or St Louis ... they struggle to keep the local airline in business. Cars are nice.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

    163 All Aboard the 3:13 to Honolulu.

    (feckin' dimwits)

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (Ct55T)

    164 Anything politicians propose in Commiefornia are just pipe dreams, fantasies and poppy-cock.

    In debt, overrun with ilegales and democrat is no way to go thru statehood.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (Z+IKu)

    165 I am most struck by how the Greens spend these vast sums on their pet dreams when there are other, concrete problems that need to be addressed, like just fixing and maintaining the local highway.


    I'm sure there was a budget in the HSR somewhere for maintenance. Right?

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (8ikIW)

    166 Somebody posted once here US Geological surveys (or newspaper stories about the surveys)with dire predictions of the oil supply going back to the 30's at least.
    Posted by: steevy
    --------
    Peak oil! Peak oil! They frantically chanted...years ago.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (fZcn6)

    167 I really dig trains and subways that work well, that are clean, whose ridership consists of normal law-abiding people. You can find them here and there - though virtually never in the US.
    But I absolutely *loathe* public transit that is slow, dirty, unreliable, and perhaps worst of all, infested with bums and criminals with no effective policing in sight. That's pretty much the only type of transit democrats are capable of building due to their virtue signalling requirements.
    Similarly, "walkable neighborhoods" are worthless when your walkable distance is salted with bums, crazies, and third-generation section 8 barbarians - and patrolled by hamstrung cops, if at all - and the housing prices for productive citizens are absolutely retarded due to .gov interference.

    These people are literally why we can't have nice things. It's nearing the time to have a serious conversation about how to address that.

    Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (67XdO)

    168 Somebody posted once here US Geological surveys (or newspaper stories about the surveys)with dire predictions of the oil supply going back to the 30's at least.
    Posted by: steevy


    Peak Oil has been passed probably a dozen times.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (qpKia)

    169 143
    ...And it even has lines that applies to the left's attitude toward normals:

    You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
    Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 16, 2019 12:11 PM (S+f+m)
    ------------------------------------------
    YES!!!

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (Rxduq)

    170 It's the rolling motion of the trains. Gets the ladies hot! Here's a vitamin sample for you. Vitamin E. Now that is great for the old pecker. Yeah it really keeps a pencil sharpened.

    Posted by: Bob Sweet, Silverstreak at February 16, 2019 12:17 PM (QLvwG)

    171 159 I've never looked it up, but I would guess that the combined biomass of unicellular organisms in the ocean over 2.5 billion years probably exceeds the biomass of all land animals by a hefty margin.
    Posted by: Cicero

    Little bastards were farting out CO2, too!
    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:15 PM (8ikIW)

    I looked that up for some reason ages and ages ago, and yes, oceanic microflora is by far the plurality of life on earth. No idea what the actual percentages are, but yeah.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:17 PM (Ct55T)

    172 The only Amtrak route that consistently turns a profit is the Northeast Corridor because of the density. And even then it wouldn't make money without being heavily subsidized.

    And it also sucks.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (/tuJf)

    173 "165
    I am most struck by how the Greens spend these vast sums on their pet
    dreams when there are other, concrete problems that need to be
    addressed, like just fixing and maintaining the local highway.





    I'm sure there was a budget in the HSR somewhere for maintenance. Right?

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (8ikIW)"
    ...
    CA has been deliberately neglecting road work for more than a generation now; remember, these were the same people who made the first HOV lanes, which were deliberately designed to foul traffic and drive commuters to public transit.

    The fact that they can blow the money on stupid shit elsewhere is just a bonus.

    Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (67XdO)

    174 Population density in Europe, Japan and China is at least ten times what it is in the US.

    Thus, why HSR will never work here but nominally works in those places.

    Math is hard only if you are a socialist/totalitarian dipshit.

    Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (RIKJa)

    175 You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
    Posted by: Art Rondolet
    -------

    I used walk out on the streets of Laredo.
    Posted by: Ghey Young Cowboy


    I stood on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.
    Posted by: rickb223
    -----------

    I once dialed PEnnsylvania 6-5000

    Posted by: Glenn Miller at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (fZcn6)

    176 "Little bastards were farting out CO2, too!Posted by: Bruce

    I wonder how much of that "dissolved" to form all that calcium carbonate. All that "deadly" carbon sure didn't stay in the atmosphere.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (Cus5s)

    177 The USA is simply too big to do all this light rail/high speed train stuff. Most of our states are bigger than these countries held up as examples of effective/efficient systems. It just can't work on our scale.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (kufk0)

    178 YES!!!
    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:16 PM (Rxduq)

    Left him my watch and my old housekey.
    Don't want folks thinkin' that i'd steal.
    And I thanked him as I was leaving,
    out for the streets of Bakersfield.

    (doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo)

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (Ct55T)

    179 That Q is not directed to you Rick, its directed to the bleeding heart liberal women voters who reflexively parrot the Dem talking points.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (jUcoH)

    180 The left has orgasms over choo choos. Because they visited Europe once and think they are so hip and cool. They work in Europe because it's Europe. We left there a while ago for a reason.

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (L3YlV)

    181 We need a Manhattan Project to perfect Human Catapult Technology!

    Posted by: One Named Troll at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (H7hR5)

    182 >>I wonder how much of that "dissolved" to form all that calcium carbonate.


    Listened to a 'Climate Scientist' explain why 'Old CO2 is Good CO2, but new CO2 is BAD CO2.

    Then I laughed at him and told him he needed to go back to school.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (5jrhZ)

    183 I once dialed PEnnsylvania 6-5000

    Posted by: Glenn Miller at February 16, 2019 12:18 PM (fZcn6)

    867-530nieeien

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (cxHbL)

    184 You don't know me, but you don't like me.
    You care less how I feel.
    How many of you that sit and judge me
    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
    Posted by: Art Rondolet
    -------

    I used walk out on the streets of Laredo.
    Posted by: Ghey Young Cowboy


    I stood on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.
    Posted by: rickb223
    -----------

    I once dialed PEnnsylvania 6-5000
    Posted by: Glenn Miller
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    BEechwood 4-5789

    Posted by: The Marvelettes at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (fZcn6)

    185 That Q is not directed to you Rick, its directed to the bleeding heart liberal women voters who reflexively parrot the Dem talking points.
    Posted by: PaleRider


    :-)

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (qpKia)

    186 I once shot a man in Reno.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:21 PM (UGqF8)

    187 I saw Abiotic Genesis open for the Electric Prunes in the Cow Palace, 1967!

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 12:21 PM (AMIL/)

    188 867-530nieeien
    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (cxHbL)

    "Man, that chick was a total German Jenny."

    "German Jenny?"

    "867-530 NEIN!!!!"

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:21 PM (Ct55T)

    189 "German Jenny?"

    "867-530 NEIN!!!!"
    Posted by: Warai-otoko



    *snort

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:22 PM (qpKia)

    190 Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country?

    Cheaper than a wall, and you don't have to do it very often once word gets out. Hmm...glad you brought the idea up!

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:22 PM (n/eZB)

    191 Much as I was hoping to be wrong, I figured the CPD would do its duty and bury Smollett's guilt.

    Now I'm hearing that they released the Nigerians without charge and will "continue investigating based on 'new evidence.'"

    So it looks like Jussie'll be riding this out, and those MAGA racists will be sipping Mai Tais on the beach with Nicole Simpson's real killer.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (5aX2M)

    192 Then I had a crazy-looking woman in Kansas City.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (UGqF8)

    193 >>Cheaper than a wall, and you don't have to do it very often once word gets out.


    Free Fire Zone open to ALL Citizens who buy a permit.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (5jrhZ)

    194 Yes, Dinosaurs are dying all the time.

    And when they do, they bury their dead several miles below the earth's surface. Sometimes to truly honor their dead, they bury them miles below the ocean bottom which is a mile below the surface.

    They are weird in that way.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (lD3vL)

    195 190 Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country?

    Cheaper than a wall, and you don't have to do it very often once word gets out. Hmm...glad you brought the idea up!
    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:22 PM (n/eZB)

    Well, technically, I want my tax dollars taken to fund law enforcement officers who will do the shooting. But otherwise, Yup.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (Ct55T)

    196 They've been ramming the choo choo or LRT down our throats in the Twin Cities. Our roads SUCK balls because not only do they take the money from our gas tax, car sales tax, registration etc. for LRT, They divert it also to miles and miles of bike lanes that get used maybe 4-5 months of the year. We have a surplus and the new POS governor want to raise the gas tax, for roads and bridges. SMDH, dumb fucking Cidiots.

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (L3YlV)

    197 Hah. Trump using Bronco's cartel national emergency for part of the wall funding.

    Bronco: You didn't build that wall. Somebody made that happen for you.

    Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (t6MX/)

    198 Glenn Campbell like songs about cities. Wichita, Galveston, etc.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (4thlk)

    199 I have it on good authority that once upon a time, it was legal for Connecticut citizens to shoot anyone found to be crossing into the state from Rhode Island.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (w54mS)

    200 192 Then I had a crazy-looking woman in Kansas City.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (UGqF

    Hey hey hey hey.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (Ct55T)

    201 "I want to see a High Speed Train hit a moose while going flat out"


    the can bring back the cow catcher ... but at 300 mph, the moose would end up in another county.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (Cus5s)

    202 All aboard the Commie Train!

    Posted by: Gruesome Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (Tyii7)

    203 You don't know me, but you don't like me.

    You care less how I feel.

    How many of you that sit and judge me

    Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?

    Posted by: Art Rondolet

    -------



    I used walk out on the streets of Laredo.

    Posted by: Ghey Young Cowboy





    I stood on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.

    Posted by: rickb223

    -----------



    I once dialed PEnnsylvania 6-5000

    Posted by: Glenn Miller

    -------------



    BEechwood 4-5789

    Posted by: The Marvelettes at February 16, 2019 12:20 PM (fZcn6)

    BR-549

    Posted by: Junior Samples Used Cars at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (QLvwG)

    204 SMDH, dumb fucking Cidiots.
    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM (L3YlV)


    This, too, is the story of Seattle.

    Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2019 12:24 PM (t6MX/)

    205 Heh T-bird. Mean me sometimes thinks that if LEO would ignore reports about dead migrants vigilantes would step up, word would get out south of the border and yup problem solved. But the deep state wont ever let that happen.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (jUcoH)

    206 I used to use Amtrak for business trips, because I could walk to the station from my office and was usually going to either Chicago, or Pittsburgh or DC. First they changed the schedules so that I could walk from the office at 1 or so AM; then the agency started having meetings convenient to O'Hare instead of The Loop, and that was it for my convenience arguments.

    When the staff was mostly carryovers from "real railroad" passenger crews, they had a lot of class, and the food and diner service were memorable. As gummint bean-counters became necessary, things like ISYN cleaning bathrooms, and emptying the new-fangled sewage tanks, got too expensive for them to do. So if you're starting out now, you've missed the golden era.

    Real railfans (from back in the Real Ale days), hoped and prayed that one day, real railroads would see a profit to be made in restoring service. Nobody ever saw an American Euro-Rail as something that you'd enjoy. In the energy-crisis days, we thought new high-tech steam locos might replace diesel. Nobody who ever had Marx or Lionel ever thought long-distance electric was going to work. It leaks.

    Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (8ZmvG)

    207 Much as I was hoping to be wrong, I figured the CPD would do its duty and bury Smollett's guilt.

    Now I'm hearing that they released the Nigerians without charge and will "continue investigating based on 'new evidence.'"

    So it looks like Jussie'll be riding this out, and those MAGA racists will be sipping Mai Tais on the beach with Nicole Simpson's real killer.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM

    Word is that Jussy hired Michael Cohen's defense attorney. Hmmm, why would a victim need a defense attorney?....

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (L3YlV)

    208 Light rail! Light rail! C'mon, now, all together, Light rail! Light rail!

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (w54mS)

    209 The USA is simply too big to do all this light rail/high speed train stuff. Most of our states are bigger than these countries held up as examples of effective/efficient systems. It just can't work on our scale.

    But if we import just a few hundred million more foreigners, then our population density will soon match India, Hong Kong and Japan so that it is possible.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:26 PM (lD3vL)

    210 "Glenn Campbell like songs about cities. Wichita, Galveston, etc."

    Jimmy Webb.

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 12:27 PM (w7KSn)

    211
    I've always thought that the HSR project was largely intended as a long-term transportation subsidy for Frisco yuppies, so that they could purchase larger homes in the Valley for the same price that they'd pay for a closet-sized apartment in the city itself.

    The immense amount of graft that accompanied the construction project itself is of course, a shorter term benefit to Donk-connected businesses.

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2019 12:27 PM (juqNl)

    212 It's a common thought that Leftists hate autos just for the freedom of movement. Controlling where you can go is just a beginning of controlling your life.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 12:27 PM (/rm4P)

    213 Do you really want to shoot people trying to sneak into the country?
    --------------------------
    No, absolutely not.
    I really, really don't want to shoot anyone.

    But I keep a loaded shotgun by my bed and I strongly suggest that you not try to sneak into my house.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM (Rxduq)

    214 Get me to the Little Lupe train on time.

    Posted by: Gruesome Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM (Tyii7)

    215 So it looks like Jussie'll be riding this out, and those MAGA racists will be sipping Mai Tais on the beach with Nicole Simpson's real killer.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:23 PM

    Word is that Jussy hired Michael Cohen's defense attorney. Hmmm, why would a victim need a defense attorney?....
    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (L3YlV)

    They may have released the Nigerians because they already got all they needed out of them in exchange for... ? Dropping charges against them for criminal nudnik-ery? Ignoring some ICE shenanigans/Visa overstay? Who knows. But it's a possibility.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM (Ct55T)

    216 Heh T-bird. Mean me sometimes thinks that if LEO would ignore reports about dead migrants vigilantes would step up, word would get out south of the border and yup problem solved. But the deep state wont ever let that happen.
    Posted by: PaleRider


    Drop 'em on their side of the border when they get within 25 ft of the border. Let Mexico deal with it.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM (qpKia)

    217 Glen Campbell wrote. I am a lineman for the Jussie.

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM (L3YlV)

    218 Light rail! Light rail! C'mon, now, all together,

    One of the bigger farces VTA loses $8 every time a passenger gets on, and that's when they cut costs by pulling it with a donkey.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (mhs6e)

    219 Controlling where you can go is just a beginning of controlling your life.

    We find that repugnant.

    Posted by: Gruesome Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (Tyii7)

    220 They may have released the Nigerians because they already got all they needed out of them in exchange for... ? Dropping charges against them for criminal nudnik-ery? Ignoring some ICE shenanigans/Visa overstay?


    Email shenanigans.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (qpKia)

    221 7 The USA is simply too big to do all this light rail/high speed train stuff. Most of our states are bigger than these countries held up as examples of effective/efficient systems. It just can't work on our scale.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (kufk0)


    Correct. I remember bringing my German wife at the time to meet the parents. Had to drive from the OKC airport to my hometown in NW Oklahoma.

    She kept saying over and over that she never realized how big this country is. She marveled at the fact that there weren't towns every three miles.

    Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (Fs5vw)

    222 But if we import just a few hundred million more foreigners, then our population density will soon match India, Hong Kong and Japan so that it is possible.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:26 PM (lD3vL)

    There's a show on PBS..."Globe Trekker"...did an episode on traveling by India's trains...I think I'd rather hitch-hike.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (cxHbL)

    223 The train to Grinder Switch is running right on time...

    Posted by: Charlie Daniels at February 16, 2019 12:30 PM (2kj6M)

    224
    They may have released the Nigerians because they already got all they needed out of them in exchange for... ? Dropping charges against them for criminal nudnik-ery? Ignoring some ICE shenanigans/Visa overstay? Who knows. But it's a possibility.
    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:28 PM

    If I had to guess, they got Jussy's cell number off of theirs and got them to admit Jussy made it up and or paid them to do the fake assault. So in turn for that, they didn't charge them and that's why dipshit had to hire a defense attorney.

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:30 PM (L3YlV)

    225 The sad modern left can't even get the trains to run on time.
    Zombie Mussolini

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (BXMxN)

    226 Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:19 PM (L3YlV)

    Visiting Disney World and using their public transportation told me that it will never work in the US as a whole.

    Disney has the highest incentives to keep their transit routes useful, their buses and such clean, and to operate cost effectively. They are also pretty much a closed system. And it works great, as long as you only need what everyone else needs at the same time everyone else needs those things, and you have plenty of time. If you are in a wheelchair, or left something at another park and need to go back and get it, or want to stay somewhere an hour later, or are on a tight schedule because their foreign workers still have the cultural habit of not giving bad news and thus told you *of course* you could get breakfast at Point A and still have plenty of time to make your flight, except the boat *to* Point A doesn't start running until an hour before you need to leave for the airport, etc. you are going to be struggling at best. That doesn't work for 300+ million people spread over hundreds of thousands of square miles.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (uquGJ)

    227 There's a show on PBS..."Globe Trekker"...did an episode on traveling by India's trains...I think I'd rather hitch-hike.
    Posted by: BignJames



    I'd like to call OSHA.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (qpKia)

    228 KT, another outstanding Saturday post.


    Bottom line - don't see any hope (in my lifetime) of extinguishing Teh Stupid that so damages the country and society. The economic and scientific illiteracy weaponized with authoritarian obsession in the fake religion of "green" nonsense hold all the ramparts.


    The vestigial common sense - and cost - of the worst of these boondoggles constitute a practical limit to the damage. For now.


    And a Nat Rev writer now burbles approvingly about the odious regimentation of life from the top down, like any airhead authoritarian NPR listener? Wow.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (QDnY+)

    229 One of the bigger farces VTA loses $8 every time a passenger gets on, and that's when they cut costs by pulling it with a donkey.
    Posted by: t-bird
    ----------

    Our local bus service loses money.

    Posted by: Charlie Daniels at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (2kj6M)

    230 "Jimmy Webb"


    By the Time I Get to Phoenix.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:32 PM (4thlk)

    231 The train to Grinder Switch is running right on time...
    Posted by: Charlie Daniels at February 16, 2019 12:30 PM

    Great, now I have that stuck in my head. The South's gonna do it again...Lose a war! (ducks)

    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:32 PM (L3YlV)

    232 225 The sad modern left can't even get the trains to run on time.
    Zombie Mussolini
    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 12:31 PM (BXMxN)

    They can't even get the damn rails laid down within ten years of deadline.

    It's like they're actively trying to suck....

    Oh, right. Can't graft a check from the public fisc off of rails that are already on the ground. Silly me.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:32 PM (Ct55T)

    233 Well if the Nigerians didn't attack Jussie it only makes sense that the police released them w/o charges. I've read nothing that makes me think he was actually attacked. Nigerian #1. "I was just following the script, I kind of wondered where the camera crew was, but thought maybe they were shooting through windows cuz of the cold"

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 12:32 PM (jUcoH)

    234 >>There's a show on PBS..."Globe Trekker"...did an episode on traveling by India's trains...I think I'd rather hitch-hike.

    Now those trains maximize fuel efficiency. Of course the trains are so crowded that people actually sit on the roofs of the trains but on the other hand they only breakdown constantly.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:33 PM (/tuJf)

    235 and that's when they cut costs by pulling it with a donkey.
    Posted by: t-bird
    ----------

    HEY! I pull TRAINS, not busses!

    Hmmph!

    Posted by: Alejandra de los Chompos de Burros at February 16, 2019 12:33 PM (Ct55T)

    236
    The USA is simply too big to do all this light rail/high speed train stuff.

    Does Russia have any fast trains?

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:33 PM (aKsyK)

    237 Merced to "near" Bakersfield! lol


    "Shafter, Shafter! End of the line, all passengers please exit the train

    Ground transportation is available to Wasco, Lost Hills, Buttonwillow, and Bakersfield! Parasols and bottled water are available from the friendly street vendors!"

    Posted by: BJM at February 16, 2019 12:33 PM (hu22E)

    238
    Hi, Speed Rail!

    Are you Speed Racer's cousin?

    Posted by: car tunes at February 16, 2019 12:34 PM (hgEPl)

    239 just saw a clip on Fox news of Joe Biden in Munich, where he was basically saying that putting up barriers on the border (in prog speak) "is not who we are." I mention this because I would swear I saw John Kenny among others applauding Biden in a very short bit of video at the end. Cuckoos of a feather blathering together.

    Posted by: mallfly the friendy fox at February 16, 2019 12:34 PM (ZqRa6)

    240 Amtrak gets nearly 2 billion per year

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 12:34 PM (/rm4P)

    241 The only words from the vile cretin Newsome that I've seen, or from the idiotic GND, are here in this post. Why I don't bother to look otherwise is amply illustrated.


    The GND is *so* juvenile and illiterate it talks about eliminating air travel?


    Wow.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (QDnY+)

    242 Maybe we should build a high speed rail line across the southern border. A real long one. A real quiet one.

    Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (RlJz8)

    243 a train from America to Guatemala would be very profitable ... if we filled it with illegals ... a free one way ticket is a revenue loser, but saves us billions in entitlements, and prevents 20 million anchor babies from voting commie.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (Cus5s)

    244 Gavin Newsom is from a generation of male politicians and public officials who talk breathlessly and weakly, like they have pnemonia and can barely push out the words. This limp dick affectation is apparently intended to signal empathy.

    I hope he just spends his term evading, retreating, and redirecting attention away from himself, and does nothing much. A governor who has no new initiatives, is all talk but no action, and leaves us fuck alone is what I'm looking for. But no such lick, the unions will keep demanding more, and they will get it, until the state goes bankrupt.

    Like many other progressive initiatives, the high speed rail project travesty was simply a way to loot public funds and give the money to the connected. The announcement that it's never going to be completed was inevitable and was always part of the script. Now they need to come up with some other excuse for more looting. I wondef what it will be.

    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (t5m5e)

    245 Word is that Jussy hired Michael Cohen's defense attorney. Hmmm, why would a victim need a defense attorney?....
    Posted by: Minnfidel at February 16, 2019 12:25 PM (L3YlV)

    --------

    Lanny Davis? Oh, great. That fuckin' guy.

    I'd be covering my ass too, if I were him.

    But why release those guys without charge, unless the "new evidence" the CPD is investigating DOESN'T point to a setup they were involved in? You'd think they'd file charges to maintain leverage on them until trial, even if they're cooperative.

    Like they always do with co-conspirators.

    My bet is the "new evidence" supports the Resistance narrative about Smollett's "attack."

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (5aX2M)

    246 There's a show on PBS..."Globe Trekker"...did an episode on traveling by India's trains...I think I'd rather hitch-hike.

    Now those trains maximize fuel efficiency. Of course the trains are so crowded that people actually sit on the roofs of the trains but on the other hand they only breakdown constantly.
    Posted by: JackStraw


    Watching those trains roll into a station so overloaded is hilarious. Talk about life being cheap.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:36 PM (qpKia)

    247 >>The GND is *so* juvenile and illiterate it talks about eliminating air travel?


    And cars. And cows. And cow farts.

    On the other hand the government will pay you if you decide you don't want to work so it's all good.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:36 PM (/tuJf)

    248 Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (Fs5vw)

    Even in eastern Missouri the towns are 15 miles apart, not 3, and that seemed close compared to Colorado. I suspect that was the convenient distance for stage/post changes, but don't know that for a fact.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 12:36 PM (uquGJ)

    249 Happy George Washington's Birthday weekend! Time for my annual rant.

    Unless
    you live in one of the 26 states that celebrate "President's Day" ptooeey!, there is no such thing as President's Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The
    Federal Holiday is called George Washington's Birthday. And all the
    really cool states celebrate Washington, and a few add in Lincoln. My
    personal belief is that we should get off for Washington and Lincoln's
    birthdays. Of course this holiday is always on a Monday because people
    like themselves some three day weekends so it is not always celebrated
    on Washington's actual birthday. But that is nothing unusual, the MLK
    day is always on a Monday too.

    If you live in one of the states
    that does not take a day to celebrate Grover Cleveland and Bill Clinton,
    it is called George Washington's Birthday. Actually the nomenclature is
    not always consistent. In Virginia is is George Washington Day. Utah
    celebrates Washington and Lincoln Day. And most of the others go with a
    variant of George Washington's Birthday.

    It seems as if everyone
    now believes the holiday is President's Day. Again, the federal holiday
    is NOT called this, period. The car and bed salesmen have done their
    job. Of course these hucksters are not alone. Most government officials state and federal call it president's day. I don't think this is done by accident, no sir, it is by design. It
    is called subtraction by addition.


    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (n13/j)

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:37 PM (n13/j)

    250 Don't know. Got to do with where choo-choo go.

    Posted by: Mongo Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:37 PM (H7hR5)

    251 You all better be nice or Gavin will get his aunt Nancy to smash your peckers with that gavel she carries.

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 12:37 PM (w7KSn)

    252
    "near" Bakersfield.

    On Bakersfield's "event horizon" - no events occur within that distance of said burg.

    Trust us on this one.

    Posted by: Golden State Tourist Board at February 16, 2019 12:38 PM (hgEPl)

    253 Lanny Davis?


    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (5aX2M)

    Michael Avenetti

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:38 PM (cxHbL)

    254 Is air travel actually more detrimental to the enviroment than rail travel? Has anyone actually done a real study (i.e. not a bullshit rubber stamp "tell us what we wanna know" leftie study)?

    Even so called "light rail" need to get its power from somewhere, so unless you're running these bastards on some kind of Snowpiercer nuclear reactor car, I'd be cautious about making such sweeping assumptions.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:39 PM (Ct55T)

    255 What is Donkey Chompers opposition to cow farts?

    Is it CO2 or methane?
    Because you don't get CO2 from farts.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:39 PM (qpKia)

    256 I linked a story a few months ago about how NYC transit is bleeding money now that they don't enforce the law against turnstile jumpers.Even before this illegals would simply get on the bus,walk to the back without paying and get free rides.Bus drivers never did a thing.

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 12:40 PM (BXMxN)

    257 All this talk about how high speed trains can't get across the Rockies.There's a solution to that, and it even has a sub-plot. And I can tell how few of you had the gumption to bull through the first 795 pages to get to...
    The Taggart Tunnel.

    I have a copy of "No Way to Run A Railroad," and as ways to not run a railroad go it's not a patch on The Greatest Railroad Novel Every Written.
    Have an O. Winston Link-grade BW photo of Ayn Rand at the controls of the Twentieth Century Limited, pulling through Union Station in Toledo.

    Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 12:40 PM (8ZmvG)

    258 Eliminating the private car is part and parcel of tyranny.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 12:40 PM (PuNSu)

    259 >>Watching those trains roll into a station so overloaded is hilarious. Talk about life being cheap.

    Saw a video once of an Indian train coming into a station. A guy sitting on the roof of one of the cars reached up to steady himself on one of the cables helpfully strung up over the car.

    It was a high voltage DC power line used to power the train. It did not end well for him.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:40 PM (/tuJf)

    260 239 .....putting up barriers on the border (in prog speak) "is not who we are."........
    Posted by: mallfly the friendy fox at February 16, 2019 12:34 PM (ZqRa6)
    --------------------------------
    Good Lord, I detest that phrase.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (Rxduq)

    261 Eliminating the private car is part and parcel of tyranny.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 12:40 PM (PuNSu)

    And as Anti-American as you can get.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (n13/j)

    262 Y'all can mock me if you like, but I believe oil/petroleum is a renewable resource.

    Posted by: Emmie

    I think you are right and the theory that hydrocarbons are made from vegetation and dinosaur/critter carcases is BS. I think the Earth just makes the stuff. How? I have no idea, but my theory has as much science behind it as the dino/leaves theory.

    Mother Nature makes the shit. So why shouldn't we use it?

    Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (RIKJa)

    263 "147 . Do you really want to shoot people trying
    to sneak into the country? How is the drone AI or human operator going
    to determine if its an MS-13 member or just a peasant looking to find
    work picking grapes?

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 12:12 PM (jUcoH)"
    ...
    I want a wall for humanitarian reasons so that it should rarely be necessary. But push comes to shove, if they're still finding a way over and around and don't stop when challenged - yes, light them the fuck up.
    This isn't a game, and the flow of illegal votes, entitlement leeches, and fraudulent seat-apportioning headcounts needs to stop. If it doesn't stop, there is going to be war or a split.
    Hell, there very well may be war or a split even if it does stop now, because of the 25-40 million illegals we already have here.

    Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (67XdO)

    264 By the time I get to Moscow, he'll be rising.

    Posted by: Gruesome Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (Tyii7)

    265 I wonder if the russkis have finally put welded rails on their main routes. Back in glorious days of Soviet power, one cool thing about the trains (which are also wider than anyone else's, by a bit, and which were the *only* reliably clean public spaces in the country) was the clickety-clack. Clickety-clacking through the countryside, on a moonlit night, seeing the birch forests and lakes, was nice.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (QDnY+)

    266 Even in eastern Missouri the towns are 15 miles apart, not 3, and that seemed close compared to Colorado. I suspect that was the convenient distance for stage/post changes, but don't know that for a fact.
    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette



    Used to be that way from Conroe south to Galveston. Thanks to carpetbaggers, it's now a solid, unbroken sea of humanity.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (qpKia)

    267
    Does Russia have any fast trains?
    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:33 PM (aKsyK


    Same could be asked of Australia.

    Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (Fs5vw)

    268 "C'mon, now, all together, Light rail! Light rail!"

    we could just cut the wings off the planes, and put the wheels on ... voila, light rail. easy peazy ... quick, someone tell AOC.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (Cus5s)

    269 Michael Avenetti
    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 12:38 PM (cxHbL)

    ------

    Nope. Neither. Looks like it's Cohen's other attorney, Monico, a former IL prosecutor.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 12:42 PM (5aX2M)

    270 "Eliminating the private car is part and parcel of tyranny."

    Well, God Emperor Leto II had the entire galaxy, except for the favored ones, riding in ox-carts for that very reason.

    Posted by: BJM at February 16, 2019 12:43 PM (hu22E)

    271 "262

    I think you are right and the theory that hydrocarbons are made from
    vegetation and dinosaur/critter carcases is BS. I think the Earth just
    makes the stuff. How? I have no idea, but my theory has as much science
    behind it as the dino/leaves theory.



    Mother Nature makes the shit. So why shouldn't we use it?





    Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (RIKJa)"
    ...
    Hydrocarbons have been produced in the lab given conditions and materials believed to be present at certain depths. The mechanisms are known, and "empty" oil fields have been observed refilling from the bottom.
    None of this is new science - it's just non-PC science.

    Posted by: lurker (the other one) at February 16, 2019 12:43 PM (67XdO)

    272 The GND is *so* juvenile and illiterate it talks about eliminating air travel?

    Wow.
    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:35 PM (QDnY+)


    To be fair, only the talking points said that. But then they disappeared the talking points, and said that 1) conservatives faked them, 2) oh they were hacked, and then 3) yeah I know that the CoS is the author according to the metadata of the document and yeah we posted it on our website and emailed it to NPR and other friendly "news" outlets, but really it was just a minor typo in a draft.

    As proposed in the resolution, it merely says this:

    overhauling transportation systems in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible, including through investment in-
    (i) zero-emission vehicle infrastructure and manufacturing;
    (ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transportation; and
    (iii) high-speed rail;


    But you have to take what they say at face value. The GND is the end product of the UN IPCC report. A report which says that if the entire earth does not achieve zero CO2 emissions by 2030, we will enter an irreversible process of heating and ocean acidification.

    If they aren't trying to eliminate air travel, then they don't really mean it. They hate science and are global warming deniers. It's just a power grab.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 12:43 PM (ZfRYq)

    273 Update on the CA High Speed Rail. The Governor has just announced the HSR will now only travel between Merced and Atwater. It will be a great addition to this metropolis area.

    Posted by: El Cid Flyboy at February 16, 2019 12:44 PM (qM84C)

    274 51 It would probably be cost-effective to ship helium by air since it requires no lift.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 11:40 AM (UGqF

    How do you get your blimp back to base?

    Posted by: t fna tl; fna tl;dr at February 16, 2019 12:44 PM (RCnU/)

    275 Same could be asked of Australia.
    Posted by: Sooner

    They would, but the death toll of kangaroos would be too high.
    The only alternative would be to tie the kangaroos down.

    All together now....

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:44 PM (8ikIW)

    276 Wow KT! Great summary of an extraordinary travesty!

    Posted by: gp at February 16, 2019 12:44 PM (mk9aG)

    277 India Rail, I believe the largest employer in the world.


    Worked with some India Rail guys on projects in the former USSR. Terrific guys, knew what they were doing.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:46 PM (QDnY+)

    278 Found it.

    *Warning. Not for the faint of heart*

    Do not touch DC power lines. Ever. Nasty stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAdHSwd8nkc

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:46 PM (/tuJf)

    279 Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:39 PM (Ct55T)

    *Way* too much of transportation planning is 'tell us what we wanna know' rubber stamp b.s. And TPTB *really* want the answer to be trains. All trains, all the time. It's what cost John his brand-new career in transportation planning in Colorado. He realized his section manager was *never* going to do real studies as to if running a passenger train up the mountains on I-70 was really a good plan (IOW the guy was committing fraud with the blessing of CDOT). When he told the owner of the company what was going on, the owner pulled the project but John couldn't get hired *anywhere* in Colorado in civil engineering after that because the manager had been a 20 year CDOT guy and knew everyone who did hiring in all the cities.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 12:46 PM (uquGJ)

    280 Well, tan me hide when I'm dead, Ted!

    Posted by: BJM at February 16, 2019 12:47 PM (hu22E)

    281 ....Most government officials state and federal call it president's day. I don't think this is done by accident, no sir, it is by design. It is called subtraction by addition.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:37 PM (n13/j)
    ---------------------------------------
    THIS.
    And I don't see any way of correcting it.

    As you say, the fed holiday actually IS George Washington's Birthday and here in VA, GW Day. But people and advertisers still call it Presidents Day.

    "Subtraction by addition" --- very well said.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (Rxduq)

    282 "How do you get your blimp back to base?"


    The passengers winding up multiple big rubber-bands for the props.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (4thlk)

    283 And that's it a hangin' in the shed.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (aKsyK)

    284
    That group photo yesterday in which Lexi Donkey-Chompers and her ginger boyfriend appeared was chock full of tweeness and smug.

    Posted by: Golden State Tourist Board at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (hgEPl)

    285 "Because you don't get CO2 from farts."

    the last video I saw from Heller says methane is quickly converted to CO2 in the atmosphere. Still not a problem, and CO2 is good ... and that bandwidth is apparently already used up completely, mostly by water vapor ... lots of reasons AOC is wrong, but that is probably not one. (as I understand it)

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (Cus5s)

    286 Hey, Trump's a President.

    Happy President's Day, Mr. Trump!

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (Ct55T)

    287 Got my yearly back spasm.

    And can't get any more vicodin

    this is BS

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:49 PM (RZ6R1)

    288 For Not My President's Day, I celebrate Hillary Clinton.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 12:50 PM (ZfRYq)

    289 No, he didn't know I'd go. Barry didn't know I'd go.

    Posted by: Gruesome Newsom at February 16, 2019 12:50 PM (Tyii7)

    290 Got my yearly back spasm.



    And can't get any more vicodin



    this is BS

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:49 PM (RZ6R1)


    We'll make you comfortable while we decide what to do.

    Posted by: Gov. Ralph Coonman Northam at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (H7hR5)

    291 Got my yearly back spasm.

    And can't get any more vicodin

    this is BS
    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:49 PM (RZ6R1)


    I find that margaritas work well. Just have to nurse them to maintain just a buzz level.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (ZfRYq)

    292 >>> Happy President's Day, Mr. Trump!

    Trumpet Day is November 8th.

    Posted by: fluffy at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (dCRRg)

    293 Found it.

    *Warning. Not for the faint of heart*

    Do not touch DC power lines. Ever. Nasty stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAdHSwd8nkc
    Posted by: JackStraw


    See a flash, meet God.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (qpKia)

    294 Wasn't Washington a slave-owner?


    Case closed.


    F***ing dynamite those monuments, right now.


    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (QDnY+)

    295 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?

    Posted by: Caliban at February 16, 2019 12:52 PM (QE8X6)

    296 F***ing dynamite those monuments, right now.


    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (QDnY+)

    Gotta make room for four Trump heads, anyway.

    Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:52 PM (Ct55T)

    297 Hey, Trump's a President.



    Happy President's Day, Mr. Trump!

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (Ct55T)

    I think that is one way they make president's day ok to the masses other than ignorance. Half can celebrate President Trump and half can celebrate Obama. And one addendum to my previous post. Not only is the George Washington's Birthday holiday not always on the actual birthday, it is never on the actual birthday Feb. 22. I am no calendar scientist.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:53 PM (n13/j)

    298 I'll get behind the train thing when they build them to look like this.



    https://tinyurl.com/y2u53pgg

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:53 PM (9Om/r)

    299

    Peaches gets the axe

    https://outline.com/gje6Fz

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:54 PM (aKsyK)

    300 F***ing dynamite those monuments, right now.


    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (QDnY+)


    Governor Northam is probably sending bulldozers to Mount Vernon right now.

    Fun fact: Representative Tran's district contains Mount Vernon.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 12:54 PM (ZfRYq)

    301 "build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary"

    Why must air travel stop? Who says it's not necessary now? They forgot to add "for the proles".

    "in which Californians embrace multi-family dwellings, walkable neighborhoods, and, sacrilegious though it may sound, trading their private automobiles, or at least their second private automobiles, for increased reliance on buses, bikes, and of course, electric scooters."

    Yeah, we'll be just like China with the scooters and bikes everywhere. How many rich politicians are going to live in multi-family dwellings and trade in their cars for mass transit?

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 12:54 PM (zmIJL)

    302 "Got my yearly back spasm."


    I don't envy you. I used to have them till I quit sleeping on a bed, sleep on the floor now and haven't had one in five years.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:54 PM (4thlk)

    303 295 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?
    Posted by: Caliban at February 16, 2019 12:52 PM (QE8X6)

    My theory, beyond simple Euroweenie wannabe fappery:

    - Trains are neat. (admit it, they are)
    - Neat is good.
    - Anything good is mandatory.
    - Anyone raising objections to The Good is an enemy of the People and must be defeated at all costs.

    They don't *really* give a shit about trains, or poverty, or the environment. It's merely one more repugnant lever in their arsenal of simple machines for subjugating their neighbors.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:55 PM (Ct55T)

    304 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?

    It represents the things that control freaks love.

    You depend on them totally for the means of transportation: who drives it, when it goes, when it stops, the cost, the comfort, the amenities (if any), the origination, the destination, the frequency.

    Everything that they hate about the automobile is solved when you are herded on to rolling stock.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)

    305 I find that margaritas work well. Just have to nurse them to maintain just a buzz level.
    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 12:51 PM (ZfRYq)

    sounds reasonable, now if I can bend down enuff to get the blender, I'm gd

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:56 PM (RZ6R1)

    306 the last video I saw from Heller says methane is quickly converted to CO2 in the atmosphere.
    Posted by: illiniwek



    If you say so. Because Bing doesn't.
    Bing shows converting co2 into methane, but not the other way around.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:56 PM (qpKia)

    307 95 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?
    Posted by: Caliban at February 16, 2019 12:52 PM (QE8X6)


    Yes, that's part of it. The other is to control freedom of movement.

    Again. Look up Agenda 21.

    Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:56 PM (Fs5vw)

    308 Cars gave us more freedom and airplanes were many times faster and more direct.
    Posted by: Sooner at February 16, 2019 12:09 PM

    And that's why the progs must do away with them, right there.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (zmIJL)

    309 THIS.

    And I don't see any way of correcting it.



    As you say, the fed holiday actually IS George Washington's Birthday
    and here in VA, GW Day. But people and advertisers still call it
    Presidents Day.



    "Subtraction by addition" --- very well said.



    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 12:48 PM (Rxduq)

    Yeah it's lost. All the libraries and other government buildings say they are closed for President's Day. Hell, they don't even know their own damn holidays.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (n13/j)

    310 >>"Got my yearly back spasm."



    Gah, thaat sucks. I used to take Flexoril for that, until they decided that the pain and discomfort would be 'better' for me than using Flexoril.

    Nevermind that they give it out like candy to girls who get crams.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (SU2G9)

    311 They don't *really* give a shit about trains, or poverty, or the environment.

    Of course. As observed above, the Left spent billions of dollars ripping out railways to be replaced by walkways and bike trails.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (lD3vL)

    312 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it?

    Once you've pulled one, things are never quite the same again...

    Posted by: Sandra Flook at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (Tyii7)

    313 If you say so. Because Bing doesn't.
    Bing shows converting co2 into methane, but not the other way around.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:56 PM (qpKia)

    IIRC, the mechanism for CH4->CO2 in the atmosphere involves other reactive species like ozone being present.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (Ct55T)

    314 I don't envy you. I used to have them till I quit sleeping on a bed, sleep on the floor now and haven't had one in five years.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 12:54 PM (4thlk)


    Mrs. REDACTED concurs

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (RZ6R1)

    315 I found that the back brace cuts back spasm time WAY down.

    Posted by: dagny at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (nRWPy)

    316
    Why must air travel stop? Who says it's not necessary now? They forgot to add "for the proles".

    They long for the "good old days" when only the affluent could afford to fly.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (aKsyK)

    317 give it out like candy to girls who get crams.
    Posted by: garrett


    And what girl doesn't like multiple cram

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (8ikIW)

    318 My theory, beyond simple Euroweenie wannabe fappery:

    - Trains are neat. (admit it, they are)


    Trains haul joos, gypsies and homos.

    Yeah. Saw their fantasy movie before.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:59 PM (qpKia)

    319 The Governor has just announced the HSR will now only travel between Merced and Atwater.

    For realz? Google maps says you can cover that distance in 13 min by car. By HSR, you should probably show up 90 min early to get checked in and thru security...carry the one...this is gonna work!

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 12:59 PM (asM0l)

    320 Gah, thaat sucks. I used to take Flexoril for that, until they decided that the pain and discomfort would be 'better' for me than using Flexoril.

    Nevermind that they give it out like candy to girls who get crams.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (SU2G9)

    yeah, i got flexoril but the 2 day fuzz aint worth it

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 12:59 PM (RZ6R1)

    321 >>Got my yearly back spasm.

    What I wouldn't give for yearly back spasms. Sounds much better than daily.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:00 PM (/tuJf)

    322 Nostalgia for passenger trains is not just nostalgia. Rail lines used to be the main street of the wider nation, and there's a long tradition of "little guy" literature, fighting the bad big company wanting to close your spur, or cut off your milk train.

    Best part? Sam Rayburn, who built the congressional power structure that LBJ used to hammer the nation, hated railroads with a white-hot passion. He was from West Texas, and was convinced that his forbears had been fooled into settling there by the ripoff rail barons. West Texas suffered some climatic reversions, and turned out not be great farm country for quite a while, while railroads still expected to make money from their services. So Rayburn waged a lifelong political war on rail, hurting them however he could and grandly subsidizing any other form of transportation that would drive them out. As passenger trains went under in the 50's, he'd celebrate.
    So the desire to save something of what had been, even though passenger rail NEVER made money if you read the right balance sheets (and they were damned hard to find), was not originally a leftist venture. It was the left who were wiping the trains out. Now that they're gone, they want them back. That should have a familiar feel to it.

    Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 01:00 PM (8ZmvG)

    323 Hydrocarbons have been produced in the lab given conditions and materials believed to be present at certain depths. The mechanisms are known, and "empty" oil fields have been observed refilling from the bottom.
    None of this is new science - it's just non-PC science.

    Posted by: lurker


    Excellent info.

    Thank you.

    Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2019 01:00 PM (RIKJa)

    324 - Trains are neat. (admit it, they are)
    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 12:55 PM (Ct55T)


    The infuriating part is they don't even care how neat trains are. It's just something they decided everyone needs to be doing. After a while they probably forget what the hell they were even proposing, except as a means to force everyone else to bend to their will. At that point, they don't remember or care that it had anything to do with trains, or how neat they are.

    And that is there's nothing sadder than forgetting how neat trains are.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (t+qrx)

    325 Nevermind that they give it out like candy to girls who get crams.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (SU2G9)

    expand on this, IYDM

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (RZ6R1)

    326 >> i got flexoril but the 2 day fuzz aint worth it


    I never got the fuzz with it, but it only took one pill to kill it enough for me to stretch it out.

    I also have an inversion table and I can endorse, highly, my current mattress.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (SU2G9)

    327 I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it?

    Total control of where you are, where you can go, and when you'll get there.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (f6lTY)

    328 Yeah, we'll be just like China with the scooters and bikes everywhere. How many rich politicians are going to live in multi-family dwellings and trade in their cars for mass transit?

    The most recent episode of Amazon's "Grand Tour" had the former cast of BBC's "Top Gear" motor around China. One comment made was that thirty years ago transportation was donkey cart and bicycle, now millions of new autos are being added to the tens of thousands of new roadway.

    So the Left are not like the Chinese Communists that support automobile travel. Our Leftists hate us to the core and wish nothing but poverty and misery on us.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (lD3vL)

    329 there was a special on building a tunnel for trains, underwater ... Alaska to Russia ... to China from there. They went in to a lot of detail on all the problems, but we do have some major tunnels already ... maybe the Chunnel is the biggest (31 miles), idk. But no doubt, the globalists have big plans for US (and our money, and our liberties, and our borders).

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 01:02 PM (Cus5s)

    330 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 12:58 PM (aKsyK)

    This! There's no way *they* are going to be in the train cars with the proles. They'll still be flying because "important, time sensitive business", but now it will be the air travel that George Will longs for where people dress to impress and are treated like the royalty they think they are.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:02 PM (uquGJ)

    331 Now that they're gone, they want them back. That should have a familiar feel to it.
    Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 01:00 PM (8ZmvG)

    A corollary to Chesterton's Fence:

    Galbraith's Fence:

    - If there's a fence there, tear it down.
    - If there's no fence there, steal money from the people, use half of it to pretend to build a fence, and stick the other half in your pocket. Then complain that there's not a fence there.

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 01:02 PM (Ct55T)

    332 The worst is when it's so bad it takes you 20 min of excruciating pain to get to the toilet and someone has put the lid down. Then 5 more min of trying to flick it open with the end of a hairbrush, then 5 more min to ease into a sit.

    Posted by: dagny at February 16, 2019 01:03 PM (nRWPy)

    333 I can also endorse my surgeon.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:03 PM (SU2G9)

    334 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAdHSwd8nkc

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 12:46 PM (/tuJf)

    whoa....just solved all his problems

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 01:03 PM (cxHbL)

    335 What I wouldn't give for yearly back spasms. Sounds much better than daily.
    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:00 PM (/tuJf)

    That i couldn't handle

    I've been getting them since I was in my early 30's. Never know when or why. Down for 3-4 days.

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 01:04 PM (RZ6R1)

    336 >>The worst is when


    You have to try and get socks on!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:04 PM (SU2G9)

    337 So sorry for your woes Redacted. Beer helps, muscle relaxer. Heat helps for spasms, maybe alternate with ice for acute period. I like arnica and then I add some kind of menthol or aspercreme product when I need more oomph. You can take your max ibuprofen or Alleve dose *and* the maximum tylenol dose. Don't go over the Tylenol but the real Ib maximum is 600 to 800 mgs, not the 400 on most labels.

    I am working out prevention stuff the last year or so but that doesn't apply when in the middle of active spasm.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (jUcoH)

    338 Science says that methane all by itself is a greenhouse gas. Doesn't need to be converted to CO2.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (ZfRYq)

    339 >>The worst is also when

    you need to row the boat filled with 2 Fat Guys and Gear 16 miles before the end of the day.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (SU2G9)

    340 Lots of people enjoy train travel with its more leisurely pace and the scenery, just as there's a reason why a heart going to someone on a transplant list does NOT go by train.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (zmIJL)

    341 This! There's no way *they* are going to be in the train cars with the proles. They'll still be flying because "important, time sensitive business", but now it will be the air travel that George Will longs for where people dress to impress and are treated like the royalty they think they are.
    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette


    If it's that important and time sensitive, telecommute. We HAVE the technology.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (qpKia)

    342 If there were any way high speed rail would be profitable, they'd already be built.

    Look at wind power, will never be profitable (eg any return on investment after costs) except for the huge subsidies.
    And they still get built.

    And an airline isn't cheap.
    Yet not one single solitary company in all of America--the richest county in the world with access to billions in financing-- will even dare to consider rail.

    Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 16, 2019 01:06 PM (TN1P5)

    343 No enviro-commie should be allowed to work more than a par five from where he/she/it lives.

    Posted by: Burger Chef at February 16, 2019 01:06 PM (RuIsu)

    344 If it's that important and time sensitive, telecommute. We HAVE the technology.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (qpKia)

    How the hell am I supposed to nail illegal Ecuadorian maids in my home office, huh?

    Think, buddy, think.

    Posted by: Generic Plutocrat 12S3A-7b at February 16, 2019 01:07 PM (Ct55T)

    345 hogmartin- long ago Dennis Prager said as much as young boys love model trains it was amazing they weren't invented long before they were.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:07 PM (/rm4P)

    346 Jerry Brown and Pete Wilson both proved that its almost impossible for an incumbent Governor of California to successfully make a nationwide campaign for President...with the almost non-stop, state-to-state travel schedule that requires.

    The reason for this seems obvious but maybe not and that is that Governor of California is the second most powerful elected executive in America steering the 5th largest economy on earth with 24/7 real world power to wield and be responsible for.

    A US Senator is more or less a museum piece, and governors of smaller states or even big states like Texas with a weak executive set-up can build/operate potus campaigns much easier.

    Both Jerry Brown and Pete Wilson, two highly effective CA Governors, crashed and burned as potus candidates. Is this due to their own flaws, which maybe Gavin can surmount? I doubt it. Pete Wilson like him or dont like him was a raggedy-ass Marine. Jerry Brown, like him or dont like him, is a very edumacated and learned individual unlike the alcoholic bisexual adulterer trust fund baby Newsome.

    Newsome's only hope is the VP spot, which almost went to then-GOP Gov George Deukmejian in 1988.
    California is so reliably blue nowadays though that it doesn't make sense to pick a VP from here.

    Posted by: Real Worldy at February 16, 2019 01:07 PM (D+5jX)

    347 Once I learned to put on the brace at the first inkling of one, I haven't gotten to the "just shoot me" phase again.

    Posted by: dagny at February 16, 2019 01:07 PM (nRWPy)

    348 No enviro-commie should be allowed to work more than a par five from where he/she/it lives.
    Posted by: Burger Chef at February 16, 2019 01:06 PM (RuIsu)


    Closer than that. Chain is heavy.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:08 PM (t+qrx)

    349 Time to spin California off as its own Republic. Before it sinks the whole country.

    Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 16, 2019 01:08 PM (tFXr6)

    350 I have regular back spasms, usually coordinating with days marking the death of my wife.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 01:08 PM (PuNSu)

    351 >>That i couldn't handle

    >>I've been getting them since I was in my early 30's. Never know when or why. Down for 3-4 days.

    It's not nearly as much fun as it sounds! But you learn to cope just like everything else.

    Mine started in my teens and I had intimate relations with a number of chiropractors over the years. If you haven't had an MRI you might consider it to see if they can spot the cause.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:08 PM (/tuJf)

    352 How the hell am I supposed to nail illegal Ecuadorian maids in my home office, huh?

    Think, buddy, think.
    Posted by: Generic Plutocrat 12S3A-7b


    Since you are against the wall and for human trafficking, call 1-800-sex-slave and order a couple.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:09 PM (qpKia)

    353 Agree on the stated reasons for the bizarre romanticized obsession with imitating certain foreign phenomena, but don't leave out the corrosive, general, ignorance-based self-loathing that crept into the whole prog/fascist/racist/"liberal" mindset during the 60s.


    An illiterate contempt for things American, wed to an economic/scientific/practical illiteracy, fueled by the authoritarian impulse.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 01:09 PM (QDnY+)

    354 illegal Ecuadorian maids

    Newsletter?

    Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at February 16, 2019 01:09 PM (Tyii7)

    355 I also have an inversion table and I can endorse, highly, my current mattress.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (SU2G9

    -------

    Anyone with back problems should have one, and use it a lot.

    Also: CBD cream. Escape Artists or Mary's Medicinals are both good.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (5aX2M)

    356 Break out the snow shovels, the Garden thread is
    NOOD

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (/rm4P)

    357 Since you are against the wall and for human trafficking, call 1-800-sex-slave and order a couple.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:09 PM (qpKia)

    What do I look like, a Republican?!?!

    Posted by: Generic Plutocrat 12S3A-7b at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (Ct55T)

    358 This is my first episode of back spasm without vicodin.

    Last couple of years had some left over 750 mg

    That and a very dry martini, no prob

    Used to hand them out candy, got a lot from my dentist.


    Now nothing

    Fucking BS

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (RZ6R1)

    359 Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 01:04 PM (RZ6R1)

    I started having problems in early 30s too. Found a big factor was crouching down pulling weeds in the flowerbeds a day or two before. Quit doing that, and quit sitting side ways to my computer (so my spinning wheel would fit) with my torso turned almost 90 degrees to type. Those two things made a huge difference. Are you doing anything that tightens your hamstrings or keeps your spine turned for a long time?

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (uquGJ)

    360 this is Heller on why he says Methane converts to water and CO2 ... I only know what he claims,

    mostly, methane is a fuel .. it quickly oxidizes. Planets/moons that have lots of methane, don't have oxygen.

    https://tinyurl.com/yykecr5z

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (Cus5s)

    361 bribe money for congressional districts. sounds right for Progressives. Their next big move is the southern border. where the money flowing in does not want a wall. that would be the cartels. they bought you Beto.

    Posted by: Tnuctipun revenge at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (Wa5hI)

    362 309---Yeah it's lost. All the libraries and other government buildings say they are closed for President's Day. Hell, they don't even know their own damn holidays.
    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (n13/j)
    -------------------------------
    This type of thing disturbs me more than anything else, the destruction of American (and Western) culture.




    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (Rxduq)

    363 >>Anyone with back problems should have one, and use it a lot.




    Usually pretty easy to find an almost new one on your local CList, too!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (SU2G9)

    364 I also have an inversion table and I can endorse, highly, my current mattress.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:01 PM (SU2G9

    -------

    Anyone with back problems should have one, and use it a lot.

    Also: CBD cream. Escape Artists or Mary's Medicinals are both good.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


    TENS Unit. Professional ones.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (qpKia)

    365 Also, excercise ball instead of a chair.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:12 PM (SU2G9)

    366 I don't know if car culture exists among the young any more. It was a big thing when I was a teen, to get your driver's license. It represented freedom. Did young people get that brainwashed out of them? "We've got to save the planet by taking mass transit!" They believe climate change will destroy the planet by the time they're 35. They're the target audience for banning personal autos. It's not us old fogies the progs are trying to convince.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (zmIJL)

    367 If it's that important and time sensitive, telecommute. We HAVE the technology.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (qpKia)

    Well, yes. And many businesses have gone that route, especially after 9-11. That doesn't get the pols the special treatment that they believe is theirs by right though.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (uquGJ)

    368 "I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?"

    Me neither! A lot of people love them some choochoos, and want everybody else to pay for them. Every time there's a referendum or survey, people say they want trains.

    Give me my car or give me death. F&ck trains.

    Posted by: gp at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (mk9aG)

    369 Good analysis, Real Worldly, except for the "successful" part as applied to Brown. First term, the state was doing fine because it was left alone to do fine - and the positive state stuff (infrastructure build-outs, etc) were still new, or happening. Could have put my first dog in the governor's chair in 1976 and the state would do fine..


    Wilson sort of the same. Though he fought (and lost) some the big early battles to prevent the state's degradation (187, etc). Well, I shouldn't say lost, when comes to Prop 187. Politically, won handily. Early, key example of judicial usurpation of policy-making, with disastrous results.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 01:14 PM (QDnY+)

    370 309---Yeah it's lost. All the libraries and other
    government buildings say they are closed for President's Day. Hell, they
    don't even know their own damn holidays.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:57 PM (n13/j)

    -------------------------------

    This type of thing disturbs me more than anything else, the destruction of American (and Western) culture.








    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:11 PM (Rxduq)

    It is sad as hell. I wish I knew how to change it or make people even care.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 01:14 PM (n13/j)

    371 >>I also have an inversion table and I can endorse, highly, my current mattress.

    What is your current mattress?

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:16 PM (/tuJf)

    372 295
    I don't really get the train fetish. Can anyone explain it? Is it just Eurolove?

    Posted by: Caliban



    Long object going in and out of tunnels. Nuff said?

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 01:17 PM (T6t7i)

    373
    What is your current mattress?

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:16 PM


    let me tell you about my mattress

    Posted by: Emma Sulkowitz at February 16, 2019 01:18 PM (KCxzN)

    374 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:10 PM (uquGJ)

    I got my first one playing basketball, couldn't stand up straight. I've been to Drs and they can't explain it. And I've always been in very good shape. It just happens and never know why

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 01:18 PM (RZ6R1)

    375 I got a Tuft and Needle (Boxed and Delivered Mattress) through Amazon last year (Prime Days).

    California King for $525 delivered. I figured I would roll the dice at that price...damned if I haven't had one day of back pain from sleeping on the thing.

    And I was worried as new / different mattresses tend to kill me.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:18 PM (SU2G9)

    376 I don't know if car culture exists among the young
    any more. It was a big thing when I was a teen, to get your driver's
    license. It represented freedom. Did young people get that brainwashed
    out of them? "We've got to save the planet by taking mass transit!"
    They believe climate change will destroy the planet by the time they're
    35. They're the target audience for banning personal autos. It's not
    us old fogies the progs are trying to convince.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (zmIJL)


    With all the fart cannon muffler tuner cars I see on the roads along with the newer muscle cars, I'm thinking the car culture is doing fine. Not quite as good as it was back in the day, but its still pretty good.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 01:19 PM (9Om/r)

    377 I get why someone might like to ride a steam engine train for nostalgia. I also get the fun of riding the high speed rails in Europe for example. I don't think people have anything against trains per se but they are against the idea of turning this country into a a car free nation where everyone rides mass transit. It is un-American to take away people's cars. It is taking away their freedom and the American sense of adventure.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 01:19 PM (n13/j)

    378 A lot of big companies are doing away with telecommuting. They want employees on site. Nobody is making a save the environment stink about it these days for some reason. More employees on the roads is ok again. Go figure.

    Posted by: NCKate at February 16, 2019 01:19 PM (JyTrc)

    379 >>And I was worried as new / different mattresses tend to kill me.

    Me too. I've yet to find one that works for me. I'll check out the Tuft and Needle.

    Airstream is actually starting to use them is some of their bigger trailers.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (/tuJf)

    380 "This type of thing disturbs me more than anything else, the destruction of American (and Western) culture. "

    Ironically, at the very time every person on the planet has gained free access to all the greatest works of Western culture! You don't have to go to a library or a university to be a scholar. It's ALL online for free.

    But its the poisoned product of evil white men, so ditch it. This hatred of Western culture is, more than anything, the end of us. I blame our dismal education system for most of it. It's dominated by union Democrat clock-punchers, lunatic critical theory crackpots, and downright evil enemies of America like Bill Ayers.

    Posted by: gp at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (mk9aG)

    381 Why must air travel stop? Who says it's not necessary now? They forgot to add "for the proles".



    They long for the "good old days" when only the affluent could afford to fly.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr


    That's a large part of it. Also, if train travel is so superior to airplanes, why do they need to force people to use them? Just once, I'd like one of these nanny staters to be honest and say, "yeah, compared to what you have now, it's gonna suck, but tough noogies".

    Posted by: pep at February 16, 2019 01:21 PM (T6t7i)

    382 The only issue with the Tuft and Needle / Boxed and Shiped Mattresses is that they have very little edge support. So, sitting on the edge of the bed and putting on your shoes/socks is a bit awkward.

    As are certain pages of the Kama Sutra...

    But it is a decent exchange for a bed that doesn't inflict toturous pain 2-3 days a month.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:21 PM (SU2G9)

    383 >>Me too. I've yet to find one that works for me. I'll check out the Tuft and Needle.


    Well, they give you 100 days to reject it...

    and I have read that when you do that they essentially tell you to donate it to charity.

    If you need me to find out which one I bought, I would be happy to get you the Model / Description.

    Also hear good things about the new Purple Mattress.


    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:23 PM (SU2G9)

    384 >>Also hear good things about the new Purple Mattress.

    I have too but I'm leery of buying a mattress I can't at list lie on before I buy. I probably will never find a good one for me, it's more of less bad.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:24 PM (/tuJf)

    385 339 >>The worst is also when

    you need to row the boat filled with 2 Fat Guys and Gear 16 miles before the end of the day.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (SU2G9)

    Or when you have to move a fox, a chicken and a bag of corn from one shore to the other and can only take two things at a time.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 01:25 PM (NWiLs)

    386 The good thing is almost all offer a 90-100 day guarantee.

    I think Purple charges $100 for returns, though.

    I have the same experience and I was amazed that I ended up keeping let alone liking the Tuft and Needle.

    But, $525 is not a big risk for a California King dropped off at your door!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:27 PM (SU2G9)

    387

    Friday on MSNBC's "All In," Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) called on Americans to protest across the country to send President Donald Trump a message that his declaration of a national emergency on the U.S.-Mexico border is "fake."

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 01:27 PM (aKsyK)

    388
    I don't know if car culture exists among the young any more. It was a
    big thing when I was a teen, to get your driver's license. It
    represented freedom. Did young people get that brainwashed out of them?
    "We've got to save the planet by taking mass transit!" They believe
    climate change will destroy the planet by the time they're 35. They're
    the target audience for banning personal autos. It's not us old fogies
    the progs are trying to convince.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (zmIJL)

    Lots of them don't even get their licenses at 16 anymore. Not too long ago that would have been unheard of. You would have to have been in traction or something if you did not get your license. And what is up with these "be patient, new driver" stickers on private cars? That crap would have got you laughed out of school. These young people today need to get off my lawn.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (n13/j)

    389 It's a little harder for Kids Nowadays to even afford a car, thanks to our enlightened Crush Them All policies, not their fault. And, it's trickier to hop up a car with "no user-serviceable parts inside" as the stickers say. But mostly?
    There isn't really much reason to go driving around anymore.Used to be, only a smidgen of "your" music was on the radio. You had to be able to get to the sock hop, the club, the record store, and then you needed to hang out with your friends at a place where you were free to talk. You can talk anywhere now.

    Ditto, "meeting girls" we used to call it. There aren't places that you drive to for that. And if you have a girlfriend, riding around in your car is much less likely to impress her than a couple of generations back.
    No, what chicks really dig is... a nice commuter train ride! Now that's sexy.

    Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (8ZmvG)

    390 Apparently Post Modern Jukebox is a fan of Pinky and the Brain, since they just did the theme in their style.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:29 PM (uquGJ)

    391 380---Posted by: gp at February 16, 2019 01:20 PM (mk9aG)
    ------------------------------
    Bullseye.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:29 PM (Rxduq)

    392 Turning America blue:

    Guy Cecil, chairman of Priorities USA, told the AP that most of the money ($30 million) will go towards litigation and that the group will begin its efforts by focusing on Texas and Georgia. "We will look at where is the biggest harm being done and where our work can have the most impact," Cecil said.

    Marc Elias, a partner at the D.C. office of the Perkins Coie law firm who acted as Clinton's top campaign lawyer, and who is now the top lawyer for the presidential campaign of Kamala Harris, quietly joined the board of Priorities USA's nonprofit arm in early 2017 to help the group lead its voter-related efforts. Elias was brought in as the group began to shift its focus to fighting state-level voter identification laws.


    http://tinyurl.com/y5sea4pb

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:29 PM (ePWRo)

    393 >> Apparently Post Modern Jukebox is a fan of Pinky and the Brain


    Now do Slappy Squirrel!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:30 PM (SU2G9)

    394 I'm telling you, forget the mattress, sleep on the floor. A friend of mine told to do it and he was right. Haven't had a problem since. And mine were bad, curl up into a ball and bracing myself for waves of horrendous spasms for hours, followed by days of barely being able to walk like dagny described.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 01:30 PM (4thlk)

    395 Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 16, 2019 01:28 PM (8ZmvG)

    Yep, the combination of Cash for Clunkers and computerization that makes getting a beater running on your own nearly impossible made affordable higher mileage cars for teen drivers pretty much a thing of the past.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (uquGJ)

    396 Oh, crap.
    Too senile to remember.
    Now I have to figure out the fox-chicken-corn problem.
    I need more coffee.
    Maybe this requires a sandwich too.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (Rxduq)

    397 387: I want to know what group is going to challenge all the crap in the CR as being illegal. If congress is going to change immigration policy it should be a stand alone bill. I guess the one good thing is all the crap in there was being done by Barky, now its spelled out in black and white and people can choose congress critters based on will they oppose this BS and support a real solution where dairy farmers and whomever gets work visas if they have labor that lazy 21st century teens won't do but no more paying illegals under the table to skip the costs government imposes for hiring citizens.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (jUcoH)

    398 Elias was brought in as the group began to shift its focus to fighting state-level voter identification lawsenabling, promoting, and encouraging election fraud.

    http://tinyurl.com/y5sea4pb
    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:29 PM (ePWRo)

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:33 PM (t+qrx)

    399 >>I'm telling you, forget the mattress, sleep on the floor.

    Been there, done that. Does nothing for me.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (/tuJf)

    400 Once upon a time cars had bench seats. The young man would drive with his left hand while his girl nestled next to him - his arm around her shoulder.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (ePWRo)

    401 Been watching modern jukebox some, didn't watch Pinky and the Brain.

    I had model HO trains as a kid, no idea if my mom sold them or gave them away or has them. I could have as easily went that avenue for a hobby but didn't.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (/rm4P)

    402 Too senile to remember.
    Now I have to figure out the fox-chicken-corn problem.
    I need more coffee.
    Maybe this requires a sandwich too.
    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (Rxduq)


    The fox always lies, but the chicken always tells the truth. And you only get to ask the corn one question.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (t+qrx)

    403 Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 01:30 PM (4thlk)

    Are we talking carpeted floor, or what? I've heard some people swear by a thin futon mattress on the floor, but *some* sort of padding seems pretty necessary.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:35 PM (uquGJ)

    404 What does the Fox weigh?

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:36 PM (SU2G9)

    405 402---The fox always lies, but the chicken always tells the truth. And you only get to ask the corn one question.
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (t+qrx)
    ----------------------------------

    Nooooooooooo!

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 01:36 PM (Rxduq)

    406 I slept on the cold concrete in the basement for 6 months before I had my ruptured disc removed.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:37 PM (SU2G9)

    407 Yep, the combination of Cash for Clunkers and computerization that makes getting a beater running on your own nearly impossible made affordable higher mileage cars for teen drivers pretty much a thing of the past.
    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (uquGJ)


    A commenter brought a point up the other night that I hadn't even considered. It used to be that you could walk onto a used car lot and buy, say, a car with a $12k sticker for $10k because you had cash in hand. Now, they want nothing to do with you. Why would they take $10k of your primitive earth money when they know someone will sign an 84 month note for $12k tomorrow or the next day?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:39 PM (t+qrx)

    408 >>> I slept on the cold concrete in the basement for 6 months before I had my ruptured disc removed.

    You must have been starving when you finally woke up.

    Posted by: fluffy at February 16, 2019 01:40 PM (dCRRg)

    409 "Are we talking carpeted floor, or what? I've heard some people swear by a
    thin futon mattress on the floor, but *some* sort of padding seems
    pretty necessary."


    I use a thin 1" foam pad on a carpet floor. I understand why people would be reluctant but I used to camp a lot and slept on the ground, heck I can sleep on anything. I just used a bed because it's what we're supposed to use or something. I suggest people try it, it sure helped me.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 01:40 PM (4thlk)

    410 https://spectator.us/deep-blob/
    Read a Power line artical with a bunch of links to read, this was one of them

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 01:40 PM (/rm4P)

    411
    KT if you're out there, thanks so much for this rundown. I'm a Californian who has donated and campaigned for sanity in my city and state to no avail. I haven't had the stomach for local news for ten years, and this is a nifty summary of some of the issues in our state.

    I've also known since he first came on the scene that Newsom was aiming for the White House. Right now I think he's trying to maintain his hairline and his boyish figure so he can be in Kennedy-like shape for 2024.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 01:41 PM (13CQC)

    412 #JusticeforJussie

    I think it is coming.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 01:42 PM (ZfRYq)

    413 Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:39 PM (t+qrx)

    Hadn't thought of that myself, and it's going to come up since our 14 year old Cavalier is going to need replaced before long here. I guess it's a side-effect of auto manufacturers becoming their own lending agencies?

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:44 PM (uquGJ)

    414 153 I want to see a High Speed Train hit a moose while going flat out.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:13 PM (5jrhZ)


    You son of a bitch!

    Posted by: The Moose at February 16, 2019 01:44 PM (0P3Fs)

    415 Yep, the combination of Cash for Clunkers and
    computerization that makes getting a beater running on your own nearly
    impossible made affordable higher mileage cars for teen drivers pretty
    much a thing of the past.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:32 PM (uquGJ)


    I see some hope at a lot of the car shows and cruise nights. The kids go nuts over the cars, especially the young ones. I think a lot of this has to do with cities verses suburbs. When I started doing the cruise nights I could not believe the amount of cars people have hidden away. In just my little neighborhood within 1/8 mile of each other there is a 1969 Roadrunner, a 1970 roadrunner, a 1927 dodge, a seriously tweaked out 1930 model A, a 55 chevy, a seriously wicked 1969 charger, another 1969 charger, and a 1973 duster. Thats just my immediate area, in jersey no less. I'm amazed at the amount of cars people have tucked away. There are cruise nights every night somewhere in the area from april to october. The kids love it, so maybe there is hope.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 01:45 PM (9Om/r)

    416 Pinky and the Brain (with Marice LeMarche and Rob Paulsen!).

    Brain: Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
    Pinky: I think so, Brain, but...me and Pippi Longstocking? What would our kids look like?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqMs9WsJg2k

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 01:47 PM (kQs4Y)

    417 Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 01:40 PM (4thlk)

    I like a very firm mattress, grew up with bunkbed mattresses which made dorm beds seem cushy, but don't think I could go with floor since I'm rather sway-backed and have bony hips so pressure points are a real issue.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:47 PM (uquGJ)

    418 >>Pinky: I think so, Brain, but...me and Pippi Longstocking? What would our kids look like?


    I got a friend of mine's kids addicted to Animaniacs.

    They will settle for nothing else, these days.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:48 PM (SU2G9)

    419
    Now I have to figure out the fox-chicken-corn problem.
    I need more coffee.
    Maybe this requires a sandwich too.
    Posted by: Margarita DeVille


    Out fox them. Have a chicken sandwich on corn bread.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 01:49 PM (aKsyK)

    420 400 Once upon a time cars had bench seats. The young man would drive with his left hand while his girl nestled next to him - his arm around her shoulder.
    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:34 PM (ePWRo)

    and your tires always wore a bit unevenly, because you always took those right hand turns just a bit harder than the left handers....

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 16, 2019 01:49 PM (Ct55T)

    421 That's just good proxy-parenting, Garrett. Don't forget Invader Zim.

    Did you give them a drum set too?

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 01:49 PM (kQs4Y)

    422 >>Did you give them a drum set too?


    Kazoos and Harmonicas.

    They would have to leave the drums at home on long car trips!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 01:51 PM (SU2G9)

    423 In an interview with A.J. Foyt, YouTube I think,
    he said he bought his first race car at a junk yard for $40.00, his father helped him rebuild it, then he took it to the track.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:52 PM (ePWRo)

    424 vs. 300 mph (best) ground-based

    And lets not forget sabotage-able every inch of the way.

    Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2019 01:53 PM (FhXTo)

    425 Hadn't thought of that myself, and it's going to come up since our 14 year old Cavalier is going to need replaced before long here. I guess it's a side-effect of auto manufacturers becoming their own lending agencies?
    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:44 PM (uquGJ)


    I forgot to ask what the answer is, too. Maybe take the loan and then pay it off the next day with the cash you would have paid for the car? But if they're selling cars to buyers who only look at the payments and don't even know what the out the door price of the car is, I don't know how likely they are to want to work with you in the first place.

    Maybe just buy face to face. Or an off-fleet car. My parents have been buying off-fleet rental Camrys from Enterprise for about 20 years and my dad is the type to have done the research and the tables and schedules and charts far in excess of all human reason.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:54 PM (t+qrx)

    426 Why would they take $10k of your primitive earth
    money when they know someone will sign an 84 month note for $12k
    tomorrow or the next day?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:39 PM (t+qrx)


    ---

    That's a great and tragic point.

    I bought a vehicle recently. I was able to pay cash, partly because it was relatively inexpensive and partly because one of the best things my parents taught me was buy cheap initially and keep making car payments to myself every month even after I've got the car. I've been fortunate to maintain this and hopefully will pass it to my kids, but I saw first hand when I went to look at a used car on a big dealer lot that my cash was essentially meaningless to any deal.

    It's not how much something costs, but how much can the payments be. $50K full size trucks are common now. Not even King Ranch or whatever (those are probably 70), and I think I saw 90 months as one of the payment options when the salesman took me into the room to give my check to the money man.

    I felt very, very old when I realized where we as a society had mentally moved on the car-buying topic.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 01:55 PM (xyung)

    427 Note that you don't see companies shipping coal and gravel by plane. There's a reason for that.

    Not at 300 miles an hour, they don't.


    And they do fly fish, lobster, etc.

    Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2019 01:55 PM (FhXTo)

    428 I think you are right and the theory that hydrocarbons are made from vegetation and dinosaur/critter carcases is BS. I think the Earth just makes the stuff. How? I have no idea, but my theory has as much science behind it as the dino/leaves theory.

    Mother Nature makes the shit. So why shouldn't we use it?

    Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2019 12:41 PM (RIKJa)

    No petroleum geologist worth his salt believes oil comes from dead dinosaurs. There simply never were enough of them. But the biomass of single-celled plants and animals in the oceans is huge, and oil all originates in rocks of marine origin.

    Pollen from land-borne plants, washed out of the air by rain, and carried to sea by rivers, may make up a part of it, too.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 01:55 PM (nPGq2)

    429 Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 01:52 PM (ePWRo)

    That's pretty much out of the question on so many levels now-a-days. Besides cars being so much more expensive, especially with the supply of older stock purposefully contracted, even kids that *have* dads their dads are much less likely to know how to get a car running than those of a generation ago.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 01:56 PM (uquGJ)

    430 Trains are diesel electric and electric motors are far more efficent pulling heavy loads.

    Infinitely variable transmission of mega-torgue. You'd need too many gears on a train.

    Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2019 01:58 PM (FhXTo)

    431 I'd definitely consider a new-car loan if it came with an additional rebate or the like so long as there were no prepayment penalties.

    I personally think the highest value are cars around the 40K-50K mile range, but I drive all my stuff until it passes 180-200K miles and understand (and respect) that there are a lot of people who aren't comfortable with that.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 01:59 PM (xyung)

    432 Addendum: Take the loan and pay it off entirely on the first payment date.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 01:59 PM (xyung)

    433 Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:54 PM (t+qrx)

    That's good to know. Pretty sure our new gently-used minivan was a rental fleet vehicle before we got it. I wrote a check for it but, as is the case with many minivans, it was *not* inexpensive even used.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (uquGJ)

    434 407---....It used to be that you could walk onto a used car lot and buy, say, a car with a $12k sticker for $10k because you had cash in hand. Now, they want nothing to do with you......
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:39 PM (t+qrx)
    ------------
    Worse yet, they'll actually jack UP the price if they know you're paying cash.

    The only way to buy a car for cash today is to pretend you are going to finance it.
    -Record everything or have a witness.
    -You get them to agree to a price.
    -Then you listen to their finance plans.
    -Then you say "Nah" and pull out the cash.






    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (Rxduq)

    435 Notice how no enterprising reporter has asked Jerry Brown for his thoughts on Newsom's decision? Not newsworthy?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (GJkKh)

    436 And lets not forget sabotage-able every inch of the way.

    Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2019 01:53 PM (FhXTo)

    Honestly, I'm shocked this hasn't been a huge problem already. Very pleased, but shocked.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 02:01 PM (uquGJ)

    437
    For those of you with back problems, have you tried an inflatable mattress? Aerobed or one of those? Make it as firm or as soft as you like and you can pick one up at a big box store, give it a test run, and return it if it doesn't work.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 02:02 PM (13CQC)

    438 Oil and those little creatures in the sea that eat it.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 02:03 PM (ePWRo)

    439 419---Out fox them. Have a chicken sandwich on corn bread.
    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2019 01:49 PM (aKsyK)
    ---------------------------
    Now, THAT is the best solution!

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 02:04 PM (Rxduq)

    440
    Notice how no enterprising reporter has asked Jerry Brown for his thoughts on Newsom's decision? Not newsworthy?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (GJkKh)

    =====

    I reeeeeeaaally wish they'd ask AOC or her policy magicians about it.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 02:07 PM (13CQC)

    441 People still associate status with cars instead of practicality. My daily driver for the past 11 years has been a 1997 Chevy 2 wheel drive pickup. It's got close to 300,000 miles on it so I started looking for a replacement. I found a 2003 Ford F-150 with 105,000 and almost no rust I bought for 1,500.00. That's less than a half a year of car payments for a vehicle that will last me another ten years.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (4thlk)

    442 Eat cornbread, raise hell.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (xyung)

    443 435 Notice how no enterprising reporter has asked Jerry Brown for his thoughts on Newsom's decision? Not newsworthy?
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (GJkKh)
    --------------------------------
    If only, ...... *sigh*

    Doesn't advance the Narrative.
    Hence, not newsworthy.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (Rxduq)

    444 Science says that methane all by itself is a greenhouse gas. Doesn't need to be converted to CO2.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 01:05 PM (ZfRYq)

    But it will, for sure. Because the carbon and the hydrogen in the methane are just itchin' to get jiggy with some oxygen.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (nPGq2)

    445 At $500.00 a month car payment that Ford and a good mechanic will save you about 20 or $25,000.00 dollars.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 02:11 PM (ePWRo)

    446 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 01:59 PM (xyung)

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (uquGJ)


    A 50kmile rental is about the sweet spot of value and condition, I think. It's already had the break-in, infant mortality, and inevitable first 18 months recalls addressed, and you know it went back for basic maintenance checks every few weeks and scheduled maintenance as needed. If you're up north, you can also look for ones that were rented out of warmer climates and never saw salt, for the cost of a transfer fee (if that's important to you).

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:12 PM (t+qrx)

    447 . I also get the fun of riding the high speed rails in Europe for example. "

    You misspelled Disneyland...

    Seriously. It's a tourist thing

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:12 PM (NPutB)

    448 Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 01:41 PM

    Thanks for the background. I didn't know exactly what to think of Newsom when he came on the scene.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM (BVQ+1)

    449 Then you listen to their finance plans.
    -Then you say "Nah" and pull out the cash. "

    Actually, you can get a better deal by financing then paying off in the first 45 days.

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:14 PM (NPutB)

    450 Regarding rail, light or high-speed or otherwise -

    Has anyone seen the movie "Singles"? A subplot is the main character is a city/state highway engineer who has the idea for a "supertrain" (light rail commuter train) that will pull riders in with "great coffee, great music...they'll park-and-ride!"

    His girlfriend/fiance, a "think globally/act locally" environmental activist - who should be all aboard with the idea - that owns a gas-guzzling Chrysler (it was her dad's car) shut him down with an "I love my car."

    He gets an audience with the mayor, who shuts his dream down with "people love their cars, thank you for your time."

    Things haven't changed since 1992 when that movie came out, why do all these Steve Dunnes think otherwise?

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:15 PM (Ee9BY)

    451 Become an environmental green billionaire - figure out how to safely capture and store flare gas.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 02:16 PM (ePWRo)

    452 Didn't Newsome provide plenty of data on his abilities/mindset when he was mayor of SF? Arrogant, dumb, shameless operative in the rent-seeking, looting, race-baiting, authoritarian mob that dominates the "progressive"/"liberal" machine?

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 02:16 PM (QDnY+)

    453 The best part about cheap used cars, if you can stomach the used part, is that the decent ones reach a point where they eventually don't lose any additional value. Find a decent old Camry or Accord for $5K, keep it up, keep records, and drive it for six or seven years, and it will probably be worth at least $2K when you're ready to sell it.

    I have no idea what the average car payment is these days but I'd guess somewhere around $400. If you sell it after six years for $2K you would have driven that car for about eight months of your buddy's new car payments.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:18 PM (xyung)

    454 441 People still associate status with cars instead of practicality. My daily driver for the past 11 years has been a 1997 Chevy 2 wheel drive pickup. It's got close to 300,000 miles on it so I started looking for a replacement. I found a 2003 Ford F-150 with 105,000 and almost no rust I bought for 1,500.00. That's less than a half a year of car payments for a vehicle that will last me another ten years.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:08 PM (4thlk)


    I think that's changing somewhat with the move to SUVs - they are more practical than an equivalent coupe or sedan. The ultimate status car 40 years ago was a 2-door coupe that is longer, heavier, thirstier, less reliable, and could only hold 4 people inside - the "personal luxury coupe" like a Thunderbird or Monte Carlo.

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:21 PM (Ee9BY)

    455 "At $500.00 a month car payment that Ford and a good mechanic will save you about 20 or $25,000.00 dollars."


    Money I use to expand my airplane and classic truck inventory. I smirk when people look at me sadly driving my everyday beaters and then envy me when they see me driving my 1929 Ford pickup or my 1964 Ford pickup.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:21 PM (4thlk)

    456 I have a 20 year old SUV type car that I bought new, for full MSRP, since it was in demand at the time.
    I still have it, I am the original owner and I paid cash for it, about $26k at the time.

    To this day, I love driving it. It is a garage queen, 20 years , only 100k miles or so.

    I wish I had sprung for the leather seats, that is my only regret.

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:22 PM (w7KSn)

    457 If you're up north, you can also look for ones that were rented out of
    warmer climates and never saw salt, for the cost of a transfer fee (if
    that's important to you).

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:12 PM (t+qrx)


    ---

    That's a good point and one I've never really considered since we only get salt a couple of times a year.

    And I know everyone jokes about how people drive rental cars, but I've seen how most people drive their OWN cars, and I don't think it can be much worse.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:22 PM (xyung)

    458 In Japan prefer the regular trains over the shinkansen - you see much more, which is a huge part of the pleasure of train travel, esp. as a visitor.


    Probably inertia and the desperation to stoke demand and economic activity, but they continued the shinkansen far beyond reasonable bounds (even by distinctive Japanese circumstances WRT rail), extended it all the way to the southern tip of the southern-most main island of Kyushu.


    But air travel in Japan has become much better - cheaper, more dense, more competitive - so going to Kagoshima from Tokyo, you'd be nuts to take the train. Haven't compared costs/times, but confident it wouldn't even be close.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 02:23 PM (QDnY+)

    459 lowandslow - "airplane inventory"?


    Do tell!

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 02:24 PM (QDnY+)

    460 I often regret not picking up a gently used FJ Cruiser I came across a decade or so ago. They were $25K or so new, and I'm told used ones in good shape with good titles and 100K miles are still selling for $20-25K or so.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:26 PM (xyung)

    461 449---Actually, you can get a better deal by financing then paying off in the first 45 days.

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:14 PM (NPutB)
    ------------------------
    Yes, if there is no pre-payment penalty.
    And that would definitely be the way to go if you're getting a new car with some kind of rebate deal!

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 02:27 PM (Rxduq)

    462 Notice how no enterprising reporter has asked Jerry Brown for his thoughts on Newsom's decision? Not newsworthy?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:00 PM (GJkKh)

    =====

    I reeeeeeaaally wish they'd ask AOC or her policy magicians about it.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 02:07 PM (13CQC)


    That, too.

    But Newsom, been in office what, less than two months, and pulls the plug on Jerry Brown's signature project, a project he'd been crowing about for eight years.

    That's got to hurt. It'd be like Hillarhoid pulling the plug on Obamacare a month or two into her (mercifully non-existent) term.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:27 PM (GJkKh)

    463 "I think that's changing somewhat with the move to SUVs - they are more practical than an equivalent coupe or sedan"



    I think we had this discussion on AoSHQ not to long ago. Besides Ford making a Mustang no U.S. manufacturer is even making cars, all SUVs and trucks. It's just going to be the foreign companies making fewer and fewer cars.


    But by status I meant expensive vehicles to impress and keep up with the neighbors.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:27 PM (4thlk)

    464 A friend of mine has a really expensive Audi.
    If he gets a flat tire he has to get 4 new tires.
    No idea why.

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:29 PM (w7KSn)

    465 As for car payments:

    A few years ago, I owned a '98.5 Audi A4 V6 Quattro outright. It was a wonderful driving car. I was driving it 650 miles per week. It needed new wheel bearings, ignition switch, and front suspension in the last year I owned it - ~$2600. It was due for a new clutch ($2k) and timing belt/water pump ($3K) in the next year. It got ~25MPG on premium gas. About $140 per week in fuel.

    I traded it on a new Chevy Cruze Eco, at ~$300/mo payment. It got 40+ MPG on regular. It cost about $70 per week in fuel. I saved enough in fuel cost *alone* to almost cover the note, and evaded all future maintenance costs. I made money getting that new car. It met my needs and exceeded my expectations.

    YMMV of course.

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:30 PM (Ee9BY)

    466 I'm surprised at how many of the little fastback SUVs like the Mercedes GLC I'm seeing these days. I never would've thought that style would catch on.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:31 PM (xyung)

    467 "Do tell!"


    Three flying. Wittman Tailwind for traveling fast, Bowers Fly-Baby biplane to have the wind in my hair and Piper PA-11 Cub to enjoy just flying a Cub. Plus four other projects waiting for me to finish.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:31 PM (4thlk)

    468 But by status I meant expensive vehicles to impress and keep up with the neighbors.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:27 PM (4thlk)

    Well, yeah, but even the status-conscious are getting away with fundamental frivolity like the personal luxury coupe.

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:31 PM (Ee9BY)

    469 Yes, if there is no pre-payment penalty."

    Indeed. Check first.

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:31 PM (NPutB)

    470 But by status I meant expensive vehicles to impress and keep up with the neighbors.
    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:27 PM (4thlk)


    Money well spent. /sarc

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:32 PM (GJkKh)

    471 464 A friend of mine has a really expensive Audi.
    If he gets a flat tire he has to get 4 new tires.
    No idea why.
    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:29 PM (w7KSn)


    Because he's been conned?

    Next they'll try to convince that if it needs new windshield wipers he's got to get a new car.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:34 PM (GJkKh)

    472 Re: dropping car lines

    IIRC the fuel economy standards changing to some sort of "footprint" classification was a big driver in killing off car manufacturing and only selling (cough) environmentally friendly (cough) trucks and SUVs. Which is especially funny because CAFE standards were what killed off station wagons in the 70s and brought on the gas guzzling SUVs.

    Unintended consequences, how do they work?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:34 PM (xyung)

    473 Next they'll try to convince that if it needs new windshield wipers he's got to get a new car."

    Have you priced blades, muffler bearings, and blinker fluid lately?

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:35 PM (NPutB)

    474 A 50kmile rental is about the sweet spot of value and condition, I think. It's already had the break-in, infant mortality, and inevitable first 18 months recalls addressed, and you know it went back for basic maintenance checks every few weeks and scheduled maintenance as needed.

    By coincidence, we're just about (in the next couple days) to do exactly as you suggest, and turn our 1999 Taurus over to a beer can manufacturer.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:36 PM (GJkKh)

    475 I think it has something to do with the sensors in the tires.
    Why someone needs sensors in their tires is beyond me...
    He's got way stupid "F U" money, tho'.
    He is one of these guys that couldn't stop making $ if he tried. Patents, partnerships, rental properties etc.
    I really hate him

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:36 PM (w7KSn)

    476 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:34 PM (xyung)

    The "footprint" regs killed off station wagons because they were less fuel efficient than the sedans they were based on. "SUVs" are station wagons in truck drag (less onerous FE regulation) and they are currently killing it.

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (Ee9BY)

    477 A friend of mine has a really expensive Audi.
    If he gets a flat tire he has to get 4 new tires.
    No idea why.
    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:29 PM (w7KSn)


    Probably the Quattro, right? You're not supposed to run a tire with different tread depth than the others on most or all AWD vehicles, it wrecks something in the drivetrain. For whatever reason, manual transmission Subarus don't have this problem, just the automatics.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (t+qrx)

    478 As a F-1 fan for over 20 years know their tires are a set, and a 1/4 psi pressure is a big difference. But seriously doubt a road car makes a difference in tire sets.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (/rm4P)

    479 Have you priced blades, muffler bearings, and blinker fluid lately?
    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:35 PM (NPutB)


    Blinker fluid is an outrage, more expensive than Scotch. And don't get me started on muffler bearings.

    But in all seriousness, why are wiper blades so ^%$# expensive?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:38 PM (GJkKh)

    480 From Vista Cruiser to Suburban; Bam.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 02:38 PM (ePWRo)

    481 I think it has something to do with the sensors in the tires. "

    Nah. Sensors last long enough. I'm guessing someone in the service department is telling him that having different diameter ties (worn vs new) will damage his awd system.

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:39 PM (NPutB)

    482 I think I read where some fancy AWD systems have such tight computing requirements that anything more than something like 1/8th inch variance in any of the tires will throw off (read as: screw up) the amount of torque sent to the wheels, so I could certainly imagine a case where a set of tires with 20K would be incompatible with one new replacement.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 02:39 PM (xyung)

    483 Probably the Quattro, right? You're not supposed to run a tire with different tread depth than the others on most or all AWD vehicles, it wrecks something in the drivetrain. For whatever reason, manual transmission Subarus don't have this problem, just the automatics.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:37 PM (t+qrx)


    They have 3 differentials in them (front, rear, and center) and that could cause gear wear problems. Audi center diffs are a special "torsen" version and they have tight tolerances.

    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:41 PM (Ee9BY)

    484 You'd need too many gears on a train.
    Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2019 01:58 PM


    Not to mention the union would start demanding those expensive Hurst shifters on even the yard goats!

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 02:41 PM (DMUuz)

    485 Re blinker fluid, check this compilation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmJKnXD6KIg

    The first one is great. "Did you show him the coupon?"

    LOL

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 02:42 PM (GJkKh)

    486 Here's a forum thread on stackexchange re: running tires with different tread depths on an AWD. Short answer, if it has to apply a different speed to one tire - but not the others - at long highway speeds, it can potentially overwork the differential over time.

    http://tinyurl.com/y2naohg5

    If his isn't an AWD then I have no idea why all four would have to be replaced.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:44 PM (t+qrx)

    487 For whatever reason"

    It's the awd clutch pack. The idea is that a difference in rotation will engage awd. It will, but it takes a pretty good size difference in diameter to make a damaging speed differential

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:44 PM (NPutB)

    488 If you buy a really solid car, the high mileage may mean little. I am on my fifth BMW. The only one I bought (leased) new was the first one, which wasn't a good car. Since then, we've bought used ones, the last one with nearly 100K miles. At that mileage, these cars are only well-broken-in. Really. All have been a delight to drive and we've owned them all for years for basically the cost of maintenance.

    Re: the expensive Audi. We used to joke that the "minimum BMW spending unit" was $1000. That was 15 or so years ago when we had mechanics work on them. Since we started doing our own work? Not so much.

    And ours were trustworthy mechanics.

    Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 16, 2019 02:44 PM (S+f+m)

    489 Wifey has a Honda civic and I will be damned if I can put new wiper blades on it.
    I took it to the dealer to have it done (thinking I was ready to turn in my man card) and THEY couldn't even get it done in any kind of timely manner. After 90 minutes I looked in on them and 3 guys were arguing about how to do it, 2 guys had hands on the wipers and still couldn't get them installed...

    Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 16, 2019 02:45 PM (w7KSn)

    490 "But in all seriousness, why are wiper blades so ^%$# expensive?"


    And they forgot how to make them also, I think I have to change them more often than I change my oil.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:46 PM (4thlk)

    491 They have 3 differentials in them (front, rear, and center) and that could cause gear wear problems. Audi center diffs are a special "torsen" version and they have tight tolerances.
    Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2019 02:41 PM (Ee9BY)


    Do you have any idea why that would only be the case for an automatic? Because if my Jewbaru were the auto instead of the 5-speed, it would have the same requirements, but the stick-shift is explicitly mentioned in the manual as not being affected. I've always been a little curious why that is. 2009 Impreza 2.5i, if that matters.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 02:47 PM (t+qrx)

    492 I met an attorney for the railroad a few years ago on vacation. He said the ONLY reason CA wanted the high speed rail payment at that time was to get the federal $3 billion. And it wasn't necessarily to be used on the tracks. It was a shell game.

    Posted by: PJ at February 16, 2019 02:48 PM (qlTN9)

    493 Posted by: PJ at February 16, 2019 02:48 PM (qlTN9)

    So it was purposeful fraud? If that can be proved at all it will make clawing back the money much easier.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 16, 2019 02:51 PM (uquGJ)

    494 490---And they forgot how to make them also, I think I have to change them more often than I change my oil.
    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 02:46 PM (4thlk)
    -------------------------------
    I simply do not understand this.
    I can remember going a couple of years on a set.
    Seems as if they go bad every 6 mos now.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 02:52 PM (Rxduq)

    495 Do you have any idea why that would only be the case for an automatic? "

    Sure. Manual tranny uses a viscous coupling (fluid as the connecting material). A slight difference in rotational speed simply isn't enough to lock it up. Older Ferguson based systems required a significant speed difference to engage awd...

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:53 PM (NPutB)

    496 And they forgot how to make them also"

    Newer ones are more flexible, so they do a better job at first, but don't last as long... it's a tradeoff...

    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:56 PM (NPutB)

    497 Pets is nood.

    Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2019 02:57 PM (jUcoH)

    498 Clean your blades with amonia. Old becomes newish, again.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 02:58 PM (SU2G9)

    499
    I didn't know exactly what to think of Newsom when he came on the scene.

    Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 16, 2019 02:13 PM (BVQ+1

    =====

    I think virtually any California who aims for any prominence can be assumed to have an eye on the White House. When he lost the gubernatorial election in 2010, there was a sense he was finished, and his palpable bitterness and envy of Obama convinced me more than ever that he was mad he had fallen off the ladder.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/opinion/20dowd.html

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 03:00 PM (13CQC)

    500 Sure. Manual tranny uses a viscous coupling (fluid as the connecting material). A slight difference in rotational speed simply isn't enough to lock it up.
    Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 16, 2019 02:53 PM (NPutB)


    Viscous coupling in the differential, or at the clutch? Because I looked at the box of scrap left over when the throwout bearing stopped throwing out, and it looked like a real enough surface-to-surface clutch plate. But I know less about AWD powertrains than I do about powertrains in general, which is saying a lot, so I could have been mistaken.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 03:00 PM (t+qrx)

    501 498 Clean your blades with amonia. Old becomes newish, again.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 02:58 PM (SU2G9)
    ----------------------------
    Ahhhhh. Hmmm.
    I will try that.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 16, 2019 03:00 PM (Rxduq)

    502
    any *Californian*

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 03:00 PM (13CQC)

    503
    actually, make that *any California politician*

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 03:01 PM (13CQC)

    504 I've had really good luck with the cheapo $7 wipers from Costco. Goodyear, I think. But since I stopped going there I experimented a bit because ours weren't lasting, either. I ended up going with some Michelins that had some "80 billion wipes!" or some such thing at the top. They're fine, but they're no $7 Costco Goodyears.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 16, 2019 03:04 PM (xyung)

    505 https://youtu.be/OqMs9WsJg2k
    Pinky and the Brain post modern jukebox, it found me

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 03:10 PM (/rm4P)

    Saturday Morning Coffee Break

    3DA44667-6450-4AFD-B072-6E3505B8C00A.jpg

    ***


    Good morning. Here are just a few items that didn't get too much attention here at the AoSHQ this past week.


  • Love is blind. Love is brave.

  • Need a laugh? Here you go.

  • AZ has bigger problems than porn. H/T redc1c4

  • Mother is quite the Junior Achievement instructor.

  • Maybe the GND should head to Russia and do a little colluding over there.

  • Serious couch time required.

  • Naughty dog, naughty, naughty.

  • The whole thing sounds smells fishy.

  • The reason why we can't have nice things.

  • Wow man. That's some big cat.

  • He was arrested for the warrants, fleeing, and possession of methamphetamine, and really bad tattoos. What a dumb f*ck.

  • Coconut milk does a female body good?

    ***

    ***

    OK, here are just a few rules for this open thread. No running with sharp objects, the 'ettes don't have cooties and leave their hair alone and as always, place nice with one another.

    Here's hoping you have a great weekend!

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:40 AM




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    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:36 AM (kufk0)

    2
    g'mornin' again, 'rons

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:37 AM (KCxzN)

    3 Close!

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 08:37 AM (jbWXM)

    4 WTFO??

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    5 Ah fuck I'm gonna need a truss

    Posted by: the giraffe at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (UdKB7)

    6 Yo RI Red!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (MVjcR)

    7 ...And we're back!

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (cfSRQ)

    8 Oddly enough, every argument I heard yesterday concerning Trump and the slippery slope of National Emergency boiled down to 'If he does this, the democrats may do something crazy once they get back in power'.

    A ringing endorsement for voting Democratic if I ever heard one.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (cqNba)

    9 Morning all y'all!

    Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (438dO)

    10 Top ten ain't bad.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (cfSRQ)

    11 'If he does this, the democrats may do something crazy once they get back in power'.

    May?

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM (8ikIW)

    12
    "I don't disagree that the bill needs more teeth," said Rep. Jay Lawrence, R-Scottsdale, who voted for the bill, according to the Arizona Republic. "That is our goal."

    Please. No discussion of teeth and pornography.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM (jYje5)

    13 Between the pot distributor momma to the joo-hating congress critter, that's all you need to know about Minnesooootaaa and why it and it's people are f'd up.

    You see a Minnesooootaa license plate on the highway, you get away from/avoid that vehicle.

    We should sell the place to Canada, we need a bigger hat.

    More coffee.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM (Z+IKu)

    14 Oddly enough, every argument I heard yesterday
    concerning Trump and the slippery slope of National Emergency boiled
    down to 'If he does this, the democrats may do something crazy once they
    get back in power'.



    A ringing endorsement for voting Democratic if I ever heard one.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (cqNba)

    ---
    Right, because Obama never, ever abused presidential authority or ruled by decree.

    I think the left regards that as a feature, not a bug.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (cfSRQ)

    15 Wow. Guess that guy missed his exit. Yowza.

    Posted by: bluebell at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (U5tDi)

    16 Someone please pass on my congrats to shubmi and con. Going to a biker reunion tonight and staying where there is no wifi after, no drunk posting, unless I can do it from my ph.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (9L2du)

    17 Dem Prez still will have to deal with a likely Conservative SCOTUS

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (d9f4Z)

    18 Happy Presidents Day Weekend! (WGH was da man!)

    Posted by: FireHorse at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (Lj7FZ)

    19

    No giraffe gifs (gifraffes) this morning? I am disappoint.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (HaL55)

    20 Willowed:

    4 "They take our patience and our forbearance for weakness.."

    Hmm. Not sure about that formulation. We may be speaking here about actual weakness.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (H8QX


    Eh.

    The basic problem is that we, of the middle and working class, make poor revolutionaries.

    Why?

    Because to be a member of the middle and/or working class, you:

    1) Obey and respect the Law
    2) Have planned out your life and have goals
    3) Have responsibility to your family
    4) Don't have a lot of free time because of family, church, business, friends, social obligations
    5) Aren't sitting around waiting for someone or something like gov't to make your life better, you're doing it yourself for yourself.
    6)Take responsibility for your own life.

    Taken all together that means the middle and working classes will watch their lives sink slowly then vanish quickly before they will take action.

    Trump, despite all the howling by the leftards, was a polite knock on the door as usual. Working through the system, doncha know.

    If, if we of the middle and working classes, actually decide as a group to take action,

    then, yes, we will win and win quickly because we and the planners and doers. We plan and do what we set out to do.

    Very unlikely though. The Left has effectively fractured society and natural allies.

    Look at the war against boys. How many mothers who want successful sons and young women who want to marry successful men would support that?

    ZIp. Zero. Nada. In a rational world.

    How many do support it?...a lot.

    Strangely enough, if violence comes, it won't be because of the Dims exactly.

    It will be because a-holes like the Turtle have frustrated all peaceful means of effecting change.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (CRRq9)

    21 Hi bluebell!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (MVjcR)

    22 I'm assuming there were icy conditions at play in that video? We had a 50 car pile up on I-70 yesterday. Plenty of video and it's terrifying. There were 2 fatalities. One video was taken by a trucker who was stranded and cars just kept flying by him and smashing into each other. One car was clearly UNDER another big truck and the driver severely injured. It was hard to watch.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (dUJdY)

    23 Is this the thread where everybody runs around like a chicken with its hair on fire?

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (m45I2)

    24 Yo, Weasel!

    Is that the actual MUMR above? Impressive

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (jbWXM)

    25 Wow. Guess that guy missed his exit. Yowza.



    Posted by: bluebell at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (U5tDi)

    ---
    Is that from Ohio? Because Ohioans can't drive worth shit. Every time I head south, Ohio is a vast wasteland of inept lunatic drivers that must be crossed at great peril. I always breathe a sigh of relief when I reach the border and escape from that hellhole.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (cfSRQ)

    26 Jussie, we hardly knew ya.

    You'll need another ABC interview with Robin. Then maybe Gayle on CBS, Lester on NBC, and finally Don on CNN.

    Hats on don't noose.

    Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 16, 2019 08:44 AM (+fPHo)

    27 My tactic on emergency discussions is to ask about Burundi.

    People are like WTF are you talking abou?

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 08:44 AM (ZfRYq)

    28 23 Is this the thread where everybody runs around like a chicken with its hair on fire?
    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (m45I2)
    --------
    I thought it was "like a chicken with a bad haircut"

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:44 AM (MVjcR)

    29 23
    Is this the thread where everybody runs around like a chicken with its hair on fire?

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (m45I2)

    ---
    It's funnier in verse.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:44 AM (cfSRQ)

    30 top o the morning, Muldoon.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:44 AM (9L2du)

    31 It should be pointed out that much of our current crisis with illegal aliens is due to Obama's unilateral and unconstitutional actions.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 08:45 AM (oVJmc)

    32 Remember Monty? That guy was on to something I think.

    Boned.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (ZfRYq)

    33 Muldoon, no, that was the previous thread.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (13CQC)

    34 24 Yo, Weasel!

    Is that the actual MUMR above? Impressive
    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (jbWXM)
    ------
    Not sure, We seem to be attracting retards lately.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (MVjcR)

    35 'Is this the thread where everybody runs around like a chicken with its hair on fire? '

    Actually, it's my ass.

    Posted by: the chicken at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (UdKB7)

    36 Hi Weasel! No farm this weekend?

    Posted by: bluebell at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (U5tDi)

    37 >>Not sure, We seem to be attracting retards lately

    I'm sitting right here ya know.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (/tuJf)

    38 Ahoy FLN (Fappers Liberation Navy).

    Off to do errands. Let's have good, clean, safe fun, okay?

    Hope there's not a smoking crater where once stood the HQ.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (kQs4Y)

    39 Should I go get a kitten today??? Son's birthday isn't for another month....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (kufk0)

    40 31, Obama did get the last laugh on that one.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (13CQC)

    41 They are still predicting more snow today but right now the sky is a beautiful shade of blue.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (dUJdY)

    42 Fast cob. He seems to have been disappeared.
    Darn, was waiting for some early morning fun.

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (jbWXM)

    43
    39 Should I go get a kitten today??? Son's birthday isn't for another month....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (kufk0)
    -----
    YES!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (MVjcR)

    44 Good Morning Glories! Enjoying my first cuppa joe, watching the local news, and hanging with yous.

    Life is good!

    Posted by: ALH at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (vBjuR)

    45 Coconut milk does a female body good?


    Linkus interruptus, MisHum.


    You had me at "big breasted Chinese girls frolicking"

    then....nothing.

    Sad.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (CRRq9)

    46 Also, wow, I've never seen tattoo stache-chops before.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 08:49 AM (kQs4Y)

    47 Guy's insurance company ought to give him a year's coverage for free.

    Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 16, 2019 08:49 AM (+fPHo)

    48 Should I go get a kitten today??? Son's birthday isn't for another month....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (kufk0)


    Of course not. You shouldn't get a kitten.

    You should get: all the kittens.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 08:49 AM (t+qrx)

    49 39, does the son get an early birthday present, or do you get to play with a kitten for a month?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:50 AM (13CQC)

    50 You should get: all the kittens.
    ---
    There are 6 of them.....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:50 AM (kufk0)

    51

    The National Pubic Rodeo "news" came on while I was on my way to the gig yesterday and they had played a sound bite of that imbecile Kalifornia lawyer about PTD's emergency decree. Good thing I was able to turn it off before the stoopid blew out a speaker.

    Good Lord. Where do they keep finding these mental defectives to occupy high office? They act like existing immigration law just doesn't exist. Of course this could've been stopped a lot sooner if someone had arrested the first mayor who declared a "sanctuary city." Or at least cut off their federal funds. The right action taken at the right time didn't happen, so here we are.

    #WASTF

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 08:50 AM (HaL55)

    52 Lin-duh, you need to get at least two kittens so they will have a companion in kitty kaos.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 08:50 AM (kQs4Y)

    53 Remember, a future Dem Prez will have to deal with our versions of a Hawaii Judge. Only from TX or North Dakota etc..

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:50 AM (d9f4Z)

    54 39 Should I go get a kitten today??? Son's birthday isn't for another month....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:47 AM (kufk0)


    I thought you just got one, get another dog.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2019 08:52 AM (aA3+G)

    55 Has Rosenstein resigned yet?

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:52 AM (d9f4Z)

    56 Remember President Phone and Pen?
    Yeah, good times.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:52 AM (/rm4P)

    57 That near accident is a perfect example of why we need to ban internal combustion engines. Let me demonstrate it with a piece of pizza.

    Posted by: AOC at February 16, 2019 08:53 AM (13CQC)

    58 Early bday present. We saw them yesterday. About 10 weeks old. 3 daddy's apparently since there is one grey tabby, 2 orange tabby's, and 3 calicos. They are in the biting claws always out stage....
    Plus in February adoption fees are only $14 instead of $130.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:53 AM (kufk0)

    59 Has Rosenstein resigned yet?
    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:52 AM (d9f4Z)

    Why has he raped someone ?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:54 AM (Y+V3r)

    60 23 Is this the thread where everybody runs around like a chicken with its hair on fire?
    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (m45I2)


    Aren't they all?

    Posted by: ALH at February 16, 2019 08:54 AM (vBjuR)

    61 Oh, JackStraw, you're not retarded. Just "special".

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 08:54 AM (jbWXM)

    62 Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (CRRq9)


    The missing link has been found and restored.

    Thanks.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2019 08:54 AM (aA3+G)

    63 Major League is on. I hadn't seen it since back when.

    It's Slapshot with 80s hair.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 08:54 AM (fuK7c)

    64 Poor little WeaselDog was such a mess the animal shelter waived the $250 adoption fee altogether.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:55 AM (MVjcR)

    65 I have a dog that will be 8 and a 10 month old kitten. All the shelter dogs are some type of pit bull mix or chihuahua mix. Those are 2 no goes for me.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (kufk0)

    66 Lin-duh, kittens it is!

    Posted by: AOC at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (13CQC)

    67 63 Major League is on. I hadn't seen it since back when.

    It's Slapshot with 80s hair.


    Channel?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (Y+V3r)

    68 Today's limerick- thoughts on water polo.

    Link in my nick.

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 08:57 AM (m45I2)

    69

    Black face + Democrat = immunity

    Sexual assault + Democrat = immunity

    Infanticide + Democrat = probably run for president

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 08:57 AM (SiINZ)

    70 >>Oh, JackStraw, you're not retarded. Just "special".

    That's why I wear the helmet with the word SPECIAL stenciled on it.

    Just to let everyone know.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 08:57 AM (/tuJf)

    71 65 I have a dog that will be 8 and a 10 month old kitten. All the shelter dogs are some type of pit bull mix or chihuahua mix. Those are 2 no goes for me.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (kufk0)
    ---------
    WD, a min pin & chihuahua mix, growls at you.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (MVjcR)

    72
    The poor videographer at the Paris protests must have taken a hit of tear gas. Poor dude is out of breath.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (jYje5)

    73 In retrospect I should have taken that kitten from the TxMoMe. Hey, duncan.....just joking.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (kufk0)

    74 Is there an effort on-going to set-up automatic payments for Ace? There was some sort of study that around $17-18 per month is very doable/not too painful for most ppl and that's why PETA and others seem to have that slightly under $20 monthly request option available. Even half that would be a win, imo.

    Posted by: Ever at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (1Zh0U)

    75 Channel?


    Showtime.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (fuK7c)

    76 "All the shelter dogs are some type of pit bull mix or chihuahua mix."

    Oddly enough, about 80% of the ones in the Baltimore shelters are a Pit mix as well.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (cqNba)

    77 From Sarah Hoyt: blondes are making AOC jokes....

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (ZfRYq)

    78 31 It should be pointed out that much of our current crisis with illegal aliens is due to Obama's unilateral and unconstitutional actions.
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 08:45 AM (oVJmc)


    I'm sure he made it an order of magnitude worse, but it didn't start with him. It's been going on a long time.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (sdi6R)

    79 What are you supposed to add to chihuahua mix?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 08:59 AM (t+qrx)

    80 Woops, sock off. Never take advice from a AOC about cats. In her Paradise, you'll wind up eating them.

    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:59 AM (13CQC)

    81 It seems REM's base player objected a PDJT tweet created by CarpeDonktum, overlaying an REM song and images of butthurt loser politicians from the SOTU audience. REM is getting twitter to hunt down the video and remove it.


    The rest of the internet is trying to save the video. See it here now, for as long as it lasts and enjoy the look on Mittney's patrician visage.


    https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5vxybgy

    Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's cofefve time at February 16, 2019 08:59 AM (Z216Q)

    82 All the shelter dogs are some type of pit bull mix or chihuahua mix. Those are 2 no goes for me.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (kufk0)
    ---------
    WD, a min pin & chihuahua mix, growls at you.
    Posted by: Weasel
    ------
    And that makes my case....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:59 AM (kufk0)

    83 Our extensive research for this totally legitimate article also turned up no scientific evidence of breast-enhancing qualities linked to coconut milk.

    I want to Believe!

    The Truth is out There.

    Posted by: naturalfake - auditioning for the lead in "The Breast Files" on FOX this Fall at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM (CRRq9)

    84 Has Rosenstein resigned yet?

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:52 AM (d9f4Z)
    \
    Has Rosenstein been collected by the Marshals in a pre-dawn SWAT raid yet?

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM (f3oO4)

    85 2 arrested men are released without charges in alleged attack on 'Empire' star Jussie Smollett

    Chicago Police Department officials said that "due to new evidence as a result of today's interrogations, the individuals questions by police in the Empire case have now been released without charg[es], and detectives have additional investigative work to complete."

    The two are no longer being classified as suspects.




    Back to looking for the two rednecks?

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM (SiINZ)

    86 "What are you supposed to add to chihuahua mix?"

    2 tsp salt
    1/2 tsp course ground black pepper
    2 eggs.

    Kneed till well mixed.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM (cqNba)

    87 Took a second, Muldoon. Need more covfefe.

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 09:01 AM (jbWXM)

    88 Actual AOC tweet. Queens needs to take acting classes, though. The borough didn't effectively portray righteous indignation, it was more bewilderment. One more time, Queens, with feeling! Them needs anger management classes.




    More like, "I'd like to order 25 pizzas. I made up this $300-off coupon + demand you take it, and if you want to talk about it at all I'll leave."

    Queens: Where did this coupon come from? $300 is too much. Who gave this to you? This is weird.

    Them: I TOLD YOU $300 OFF 25 PIZZAS




    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 09:01 AM (zmIJL)

    89
    The SUV coming down the hill looks it crossed two lanes of oncoming traffic before coming down that hill.

    That's not gonna just compound out.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 09:01 AM (jYje5)

    90 'What to add to the chihuahua mix?'

    Dunno - sour cream....?

    Posted by: goatexchange at February 16, 2019 09:01 AM (iBmJc)

    91 "But this is how investigations are supposed to work, without leaks and without publicity."Posted by: JackStraw


    we
    hope that is happening, but it is also where investigations go to die.
    Years of fanfare about "can't talk about it, it is under
    investigation". Then they report ... "gosh, mistakes were made, just
    errors of judgment ..." That is what happens in the corrupt side of FBI fake investigations/coverups, routinely.


    Maybe
    we get a couple scapegoats, but the political damage to Trump's efforts
    over the last two years, and Mueller's use of a completely partisan
    (for Hillary) crew, show this is not on the up and up, imo. The dawn
    raid on Roger Stone, coordinated with CNN ... not the work of a serious
    investigation, playing it by the book. It was Stalinist, a message they
    are in control.


    Still waiting for that dawn raid to get Hillary's emails ... or any Dem dawn raid.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:01 AM (Cus5s)

    92
    41 They are still predicting more snow today but right now the sky is a beautiful shade of blue.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:48 AM (


    It's snowing here. Just came in from the porch.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:02 AM (9L2du)

    93 I suspect the Jussie incident was a set up, police know it but won't call it that.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 09:03 AM (/rm4P)

    94 That gif is would be a good vehicle advertisement.
    It looks like a Caddy.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 09:03 AM (ePWRo)

    95 I think it's A GMC Yukon XL.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:04 AM (kufk0)

    96 I'm sure he made it an order of magnitude worse, but it didn't start with him. It's been going on a long time.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM (sdi6R)

    Our rulers have been searching for just the right "citizen/resident" mix for a long time, and "we" aren't in their long term plans!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:05 AM (f3oO4)

    97 Or maybe a Cadillac....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:05 AM (kufk0)

    98 That's a weird gif. The vehicles in the foreground aren't moving.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 09:05 AM (sdi6R)

    99 Wot's coffee got to do with it ?

    Posted by: saf at February 16, 2019 09:06 AM (5IHGB)

    100 That gif is would be a good vehicle advertisement.
    It looks like a Caddy.
    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 09:03 AM (ePWRo)


    With the driver's side front wheel like that, it looks like one of those 1998 Civics that some doof put thirty degrees of negative camber on. Do people still do that?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:06 AM (t+qrx)

    101 It's right up there with the vid of the stockbroker driving over that Harley in his Land Rover.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 09:06 AM (ePWRo)

    102 So the Smollet thing will be another "unsolved hate crime" for SPLC stats?

    Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (SqopC)

    103 that SUV had the front left wheel messed up ... which may have caused it to veer left across two lanes, then down the hill. It could have broken in the accident, but it may have caused the accident.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (Cus5s)

    104 >>we
    hope that is happening, but it is also where investigations go to die.
    Years of fanfare about "can't talk about it, it is under
    investigation". Then they report ... "gosh, mistakes were made, just
    errors of judgment ..." That is what happens in the corrupt side of FBI fake investigations/coverups, routinely.

    Always a possibility. But I'm pretty sure Trump and Barr and the rest of the non-corrupt players know they have a serious credibility problem at the DOJ/FBI and doing nothing is not going to make things better. That is not Making America Great Again.

    I also think it's beyond curious that McCabe is going on a media tour right now and already stepping on his crank. The story he is now telling directly conflicts with his Congressional testimony and those of others like Comey.

    And if he isn't in legal jeopardy, why did his lawyer rush to put out a statement clarifying his 60 Minutes interview? If nobody cares then who cares what he says about what went down?

    Anyway, all we can do is wait and watch and speculate. Tomorrow evening when the full interview airs should be interesting.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (/tuJf)

    105 Back to looking for the two rednecks?

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM (SiINZ)

    Well, if they can frame two red-necks, there won't be rioting in the streets!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (f3oO4)

    106 Back to looking for the two rednecks?
    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 09:00 AM

    The Nigerians didn't beat him up or pour bleach on him, hang a noose around his neck or lie to the media about a hate crime. They know something, though, and gave that info to police. Jussie's not off the hook, not by a long shot.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (zmIJL)

    107 Dang, we have to leave the 'ettes hair alone this week!

    And precisely what definition are we using of cooties? Cooties generally refer to lice, specifically lice that affect humans, such as the body louse, head louse, or pubic louse.

    So what about fleas? Can we complain to mom that those icky girls have fleas?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:09 AM (DMUuz)

    108
    how many times does it have to be said:

    anyone who brings a vuvuzela to the protest spends a night in the box

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 09:09 AM (KCxzN)

    109 ^^^ " Sky is a beautiful shade of BLUE" as opposed to a crappy blue hue <<<< wink wink!

    Posted by: saf at February 16, 2019 09:09 AM (5IHGB)

    110 Buy ammo.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:10 AM (9L2du)

    111 from recent experience I know if the bearing goes out, the wheel will go crooked, but can still be driven for a little bit.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:10 AM (Cus5s)

    112 So my question is did the one guy hold Jussie down while the other guy fashioned a noose, or had they just come back from their local Klan softball league where it was Noose Day?

    Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 16, 2019 09:11 AM (SqopC)

    113 Regarding that video, what cannot be emphasized enough is just what a menace to society, those large GM SUVs are.

    I mean, the vehicles themselves are bad enough, but the vast majority of those driving them are stupid and ignorant... and the main reason I speed is to get as far away from those idiots as I can.

    I won't comment on race and gender here, except to say, if the vehicle is black, there's a high percentage chance the driver will be either female or black or both.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:12 AM (cY3LT)

    114 The front end of that SUV got f'd up coming down the hill. Probably some dumbass on the phone is what caused it.

    Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2019 09:12 AM (UdKB7)

    115 My problem with the Jussie thing is that someone said it was a Windsor knot. I haven't seen a full Windsor since the Reagan era, and with good reason.

    You want a four in hand, a half Windsor at most.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:12 AM (fuK7c)

    116
    "Marcon pizza dough"

    what kind of goofy-assed protest chant is that?

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 09:12 AM (KCxzN)

    117 or had they just come back from their local Klan softball league where it was Noose Day?
    Posted by: xnycpeasant
    -----
    Since when does the klan softball league have noose day???

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:13 AM (kufk0)

    118 Hey lin-duh, did you get the kittens yet?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:13 AM (t+qrx)

    119 Paris protest is in the boring part, not sure why a little time ago there was a need for tear gas to be used, crowd wasn't doing much other than slowly moving along.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 09:13 AM (/rm4P)

    120 It's a slow noose day here in NH. But the weather report for Jewells is high 20s and a few snowflakes drifting down.

    Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2019 09:13 AM (jbWXM)

    121 I've got my lil smollet on a short rope and am taking him down to subway for a Bleached Boof sammich with a side of Empire biscuits...then let him shit on the sidewalk outside Mayor Ballerinas office...wot the El Train is wrong here!!!!

    Posted by: saf at February 16, 2019 09:13 AM (5IHGB)

    122 It's different when we do it.

    How many times do we have to tell you toothless, sister-humping deplorable fly-overs this?

    Posted by: The Left at February 16, 2019 09:14 AM (DMUuz)

    123 Just so you know, BurtTC, I have one of those fuckers and I hate it. That will change soon.

    When will ace let us subscribe for a monthly fee?

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:14 AM (9L2du)

    124 With the driver's side front wheel like that, it looks like one of those 1998 Civics that some doof put thirty degrees of negative camber on. Do people still do that?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:06 AM (t+qrx)

    not on purpose

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 09:14 AM (cxHbL)

    125 So my question is did the one guy hold Jussie down while the other guy fashioned a noose, or had they just come back from their local Klan softball league where it was Noose Day?

    Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 16, 2019 09:11 AM (SqopC)


    So, my question is was it a proper Hangman's Knot, a perfect Windsor Knot, or a simple Slip Knot!

    Whatever type of knot it was, it wasn't tied by an experience craftsman because no way could you walk more than one step before you'd realize you were tailing at least six feet of high quality rope behind you!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:14 AM (f3oO4)

    126 Hey, I drive large GM suv and so does bluebell....mines not black though.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM (kufk0)

    127 Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:12 AM (cY3LT)

    Yep. And the females are barely above 5 ft. tall. Seen it so many times. They are a menace!

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM (dUJdY)

    128 BurtTC I'd be curious to see if it has an "Educator" tag.

    Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM (UdKB7)

    129 Present company excluded Lin-duh but I swear where I live it's just ridiculous. The men aren't much better either.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (dUJdY)

    130 Stop and think about this for a minute. If you were a white redneck MAGA-hat wearing dude looking to lynch a black dude in Chicago, what better cover could you have than being Nigerian? It's brilliant.

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (m45I2)

    131 that SUV had the front left wheel messed up ... which may have caused it to veer left across two lanes, then down the hill. It could have broken in the accident, but it may have caused the accident.
    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (Cus5s)


    That's always the question: Stupid POS GM product, or stupid POS GM product driver.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (cY3LT)

    132 "Do people still do that"

    Oh yeah I saw Honda CRV like that the other day. The damn thing was driving on the sidewalls.

    Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (UdKB7)

    133 How do you keep a 300 pound tiger in a cage fed? Can't imagine the meat bill in steaks and pork roast.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (/rm4P)

    134 Hogmartin,
    Not yet. The adoption event isn't until noon and I have to discuss it with hubbie one last time. He wants to wait a few more weeks.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:17 AM (kufk0)

    135 I also want to see that "death threat" subject to forensic analysis, or even simple fingerprinting. My guess is the Jussie's team still has the original, like Momma Clinton giving printouts of her emails.

    Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 16, 2019 09:17 AM (SqopC)

    136 BurtTC I'd be curious to see if it has an "Educator" tag.
    Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM (UdKB7)


    Two words: Goverment. Employee.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:17 AM (cY3LT)

    137 not on purpose
    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 09:14 AM (cxHbL)


    It sure would be nice if the people who did that all woke up one day, realized there was no reason to ever do it, and just never talked about it again. There's one parked on the street here in the neighborhood, but I can't tell if it's a motor vehicle or a late 1990s pop art installation.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:18 AM (t+qrx)

    138 Yep. And the females are barely above 5 ft. tall. Seen it so many times. They are a menace!
    Posted by: Jewells45
    ----
    Stop talking about me!!!

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:18 AM (kufk0)

    139 "The front end of that SUV got f'd up coming down the hill. Probably some dumbass on the phone is what caused it."
    it may have broken on the guard rail above, can't tell from the video. It doesn't seem that jolt at the bottom of the hill should have broken it ... the other side took the main impact there.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:18 AM (Cus5s)

    140 Hey, I drive large GM suv and so does bluebell....mines not black though.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM


    Do you burn donuts, too?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:18 AM (DMUuz)

    141 My experience has been that Africans are not overly impressed with African Americans.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:19 AM (PuNSu)

    142 It's not a real fake hate crime unless there's a feces smeared swastika involved is it?

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:19 AM (m45I2)

    143 Hey, I drive large GM suv and so does bluebell....mines not black though.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:15 AM (kufk0)


    As they say, there are always exceptions to every rule.

    But yeah, black paint matters.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:19 AM (cY3LT)

    144 I'm a govt employee too. Wow, y'all have really stereotyped me into a corner. I better get a kitten to comfort myself.....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:20 AM (kufk0)

    145
    I see the left wheel of the SUV going sideways about 50 feet down the embankment, but not before.

    Buff right out.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 09:20 AM (jYje5)

    146 lol, lin-duh. You need a kitteh.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:21 AM (9L2du)

    147 I thought SUVs were supposed to be off-road vehicles.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 09:21 AM (sdi6R)

    148 So the Smollet thing will be another "unsolved hate crime" for SPLC stats?

    ------

    Two. Black and gay.

    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 09:21 AM (13CQC)

    149 How do you keep a 300 pound tiger in a cage fed? Can't imagine the meat bill in steaks and pork roast.
    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (/rm4P)


    Milk carton "have you seen me" pictures are not ALWAYS of missing Supreme Court Justicettes.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:22 AM (cY3LT)

    150 Stop and think about this for a minute. If you were a white redneck MAGA-hat wearing dude looking to lynch a black dude in Chicago, what better cover could you have than being Nigerian? It's brilliant.

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:16 AM (m45I2)



    Gov. Al Jolson: I apologize for that...I mean it wasn't me!!!

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 09:22 AM (SiINZ)

    151 "That's always the question: Stupid POS GM product, or stupid POS GM product driver.Posted by: BurtTC


    my 2006 Silverado only has 18k miles, but the bearing went out. I bought the more expensive one (was out of town) ... which I think is original (Bosch?) ... then later read those aren't great ... could have saved $100 and gotten the better one.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:22 AM (Cus5s)

    152 I'm a govt employee too. Wow, y'all have really stereotyped me into a corner. I better get a kitten to comfort myself.....


    Federal or state?

    Posted by: dantesed at February 16, 2019 09:22 AM (88xKn)

    153 I better get a kitten to comfort myself.....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:20 AM (kufk0)


    Well that's settled then. It needs to be done. Can't be helped.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:22 AM (t+qrx)

    154 The argument against declaring a National Emergency because a Democrat might do it is pure bullshit.

    The last Democrat president illegally

    * declared a One-Man Arms Treaty with Iran
    * decreed another One-Man Climate Treaty (by calling them by another name)
    * Unilaterally decided to suspend Immigration Law ("Deferred Action")
    * appropriated $7 billion for insurance companies
    * perpetrated a criminal and seditious coup attempt using the entire government.

    By contrast, President Trump is using his lawful powers properly to defend the nation--indeed, the very concept of nationhood.

    Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 16, 2019 09:23 AM (Ndje9)

    155 I'm a govt employee too. Wow, y'all have really stereotyped me into a corner. I better get a kitten to comfort myself.....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:20 AM (kufk0)


    You already said yours isn't black. You're already out of the club.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:23 AM (cY3LT)

    156 State...Texas so it's almost doesn't count

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:23 AM (kufk0)

    157 lol, lin-duh. You need a kitteh.
    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:21 AM

    There is one in Houson that needs a new home

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (/rm4P)

    158 My experience has been that Africans are not overly impressed with African Americans
    -------

    I'm trying to square this with the Africans who elected ilhan Omar. I get the feeling Minnesota has a problem.

    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (13CQC)

    159 Growing up 15 mins. from the OH border, I can verify that they can't drive worth a shit. Add in no vehicle inspection as well.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (/fJWB)

    160 I have a Burgundy SUV.

    Wish I'd gone for the Bordeaux.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (fuK7c)

    161 You already said yours isn't black. You're already out of the club.
    Posted by: BurtTC
    ----
    So now it shouldn't get a kitteh???///

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (kufk0)

    162 hiya

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 09:25 AM (nubzz)

    163 Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 16, 2019 09:23 AM (Ndje9)

    And don't forget the billions of dollars of failed o care website.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:25 AM (9L2du)

    164 So the Smollet thing will be another "unsolved hate crime" for SPLC stats?

    ------

    Two. Black and gay.
    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 09:21 AM (13CQC)


    Not to mention the countless haters on teh internetz, re-hate crimin' the poor fella, including here.

    It's like nazi Germany, all over again. We ARE the ovens.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:25 AM (cY3LT)

    165 gmornin horde

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 09:25 AM (BJlbN)

    166 There is one in Houson that needs a new home
    ----
    A bit bigger and older than we'd like....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:26 AM (kufk0)

    167 158
    I'm trying to square this with the Africans who elected ilhan Omar. I get the feeling Minnesota has a problem.
    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (13CQC)


    I don't know the demographics of her district, but I'll bet there were plenty of white liberals who voted for her, just to show how multicultural and inclusive they were.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 09:26 AM (sdi6R)

    168 Growing up 15 mins. from the OH border, I can verify that they can't drive worth a shit. Add in no vehicle inspection as well.
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 16, 2019 09:24 AM (/fJWB)


    If I could citizen's arrest people, I wouldn't use my power for silly crimes like robbery and murder. I would arrest EVERYONE driving on a paper plate license.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:27 AM (cY3LT)

    169 In retrospect I should have taken that kitten from the TxMoMe. Hey, duncan.....just joking.
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:58 AM


    That kitten who's licking a bit of whipped cream off my finger at the moment? That kitten who thinks she is part dog? That kitten who owns this house, flopping wherever she wants? Who thinks everything in it is a potential toy? That kitten who chases a laser dot like nobody's business?

    That kitten?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:28 AM (DMUuz)

    170 Sorry Lin-duh!

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 09:28 AM (dUJdY)

    171 The Nigerians were probably just the other two in Juicy's weekly menage a trois where they did weird things with bleach and ropes and lots and lots of Subway.

    Lots of Subway.

    Death bread has that effect on a young mind.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 09:28 AM (Z+IKu)

    172
    63 Major League is on. I hadn't seen it since back when.



    It's Slapshot with 80s hair.





    Channel?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:56 AM (Y+V3r)

    It is a cute movie but a bid overrated imo. It is horribly anti-Christian. But that is de rigueur these days.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (n13/j)

    173 To briefly revisit the story of the guy in CO who killed the mountain lion.

    The original reports said a juvenile lion weighing 70-80 lbs. The more recent article said 35-40 lbs. That seems more likely since the runner was 5'10" and 150 lbs. Still quite an accomplishment.

    But the story also reported that at necropsy, investigators were unable to determine the sex of the lion. This seems odd.

    So I see three possibilities:

    -a male who attacked out of feelings of inadequacy or rage at being found 'tucking',

    -a hormonal female.

    -a misgendered mountain lion in mid-transition

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (m45I2)

    174 That kitten who's licking a bit of whipped cream off my finger at the moment? That kitten who thinks she is part dog? That kitten who owns this house, flopping wherever she wants? Who thinks everything in it is a potential toy? That kitten who chases a laser dot like nobody's business?

    That kitten?
    Posted by: Duncanthrax
    ----
    Yep, that kitten! I know I'm just down the road but if she disappears it totally wasn't me!!

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (kufk0)

    175 A bit bigger and older than we'd like....


    Did you see the story from hurricane Ike about the guy who holed up in the Baptist church at Crystal Beach with his lion? So crazy.

    Posted by: no good deed at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (uTY3H)

    176

    Growing up 15 mins. from the OH border, I can verify that they can't drive worth a shit. Add in no vehicle inspection as well.

    I drove in Dayton once. I swore if I survived, I'd never darken its border again. Country driving in OH wasn't too bad, but my relatives recounted all the people who'd been killed at this or that 4-way stop.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:31 AM (HaL55)

    177 schmundie >> gob

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 09:32 AM (RZ6R1)

    178 Did you see the story from hurricane Ike about the guy who holed up in the Baptist church at Crystal Beach with his lion? So crazy.
    Posted by: no good deed
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    That totally doesn't sound like a potential disaster, Not. At. All.///

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:32 AM (kufk0)

    179

    But the story also reported that at necropsy, investigators were unable to determine the sex of the lion. This seems odd.

    By the time investigators returned to the scene, the mountain lion had been partially eaten.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:32 AM (HaL55)

    180 MoMes give away kittehs?

    awww

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 09:34 AM (BJlbN)

    181 To briefly revisit the story of the guy in CO who killed the mountain lion.

    The original reports said a juvenile lion weighing 70-80 lbs. The more recent article said 35-40 lbs. That seems more likely since the runner was 5'10" and 150 lbs. Still quite an accomplishment.

    But the story also reported that at necropsy, investigators were unable to determine the sex of the lion. This seems odd.

    So I see three possibilities:

    -a male who attacked out of feelings of inadequacy or rage at being found 'tucking',

    -a hormonal female.

    -a misgendered mountain lion in mid-transition

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (m45I2)


    No offense intended, toward joggers and jogging, but the mountain lion thought it was a skinny deer, running on its hind legs. It was doing no wrong.

    I would have rooted for the mountain lion.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:35 AM (cY3LT)

    182 MoMes give away kittehs?
    ----
    Only the Texas one....so far.

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:35 AM (kufk0)

    183 MoMes give away kittehs?


    I have observed people stalking pussy at MoMees.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:35 AM (fuK7c)

    184 Wife: "Honey, I think you just missed our exit, we'd better go on up to the next exit and circle back."

    Husband: "Screw that, the next exit's not for three miles. Hang onto yer bloomers!"

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2019 09:36 AM (m45I2)

    185

    If I could citizen's arrest people...

    Why can't you? Did they repeal that law? I know we never hear about anyone doing that anymore, but is it illegal now?

    If not, then that could possibly be an avenue to stop some Pantifa thuggery. It would need some coordination and a really good legal team behind it, but I'd think it might work.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)

    186 MoMes give away kittehs?

    awww

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 09:34 AM (BJlbN)

    Only the TxMoMee!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:37 AM (f3oO4)

    187 Well the gods of driving on ice were on that guy's side.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (jm1YL)

    188 It is a cute movie but a bid overrated imo. It is horribly anti-Christian. But that is de rigueur these days.
    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (n13/

    Refresh my memory about the anti-Christian bits. I seem to remember a voodoo guy but not much else.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (PuNSu)

    189 MoMes give away kittehs?

    awww

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 09:34 AM (BJlbN)

    Only the TxMoMee!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar
    ----
    Maybe this year the door prize could be a horse...

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (kufk0)

    190 I have managed the past few year to maintain a relationship with one of my lib sisters mostly by both of us just not talking about politics. It is has been increasing tense around her the past couple years but she has managed to hold her tongue plus we don't see her much. My wife (a latina from a dirt poor socialist shit-hole so she knows where Dems are leading us) recently tried to arrange a short vacation with her and our kids, something we do usually once a year or so. Sister starts ranting (by email) about Trump ruining the country just doesn't understand how we can support him, she has already dissociated with friends that are Trump supporters and doesn't think she can stand spending time with us or others knowing we support him...

    She is also single childless, moderately wealthy, lives, works and plays in all-white liberal bubble and spends her spare time chasing hippie bands and riding her bike supporting causes. Check all the boxes of lib elitist yet she considers herself a moderate and just can't see
    much wrong about her beloved Democrats who are smart, wise kind, compassionate,
    smart. etc... Everything is the fault of the flyover deplorables who she has utter contempt for and has never hidden it for the past 30 years.

    My wife is just responding we will plan something else, enjoy your next trip. No sense in getting into fight and making things worse, nobody is changing her mind about anything. I have another lib sister, calmer, married with kids. all libs. They too live in the same all-white lib bubble They don't rant but merely wont talk to me.
    I have thought for awhile don't think there is a solution to our problems and this perfectly demonstrates why. There is no reasoning with this, not even agreeing to disagree and not discuss politics. This country is headed towards a disaster.

    Posted by: Ripley at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (MxEKc)

    191 MoMes give away kittehs?

    awww
    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 09:34 AM


    In this case, some *ssh*le(s) quite literally dumped the kitten out of a moving vehicle, most likely the night before the MoMe.

    Given the quantity and volume of her purr, I hope she thinks she ended up in good place.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:39 AM (DMUuz)

    192 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)

    Might I suggest you have a really good legal team on retainer before you attempt this, because every government funded liberal group will be trying to bankrupt and expose you as a racist hater*!


    *Unless you make a citizen's arrest of a Republican or Conservative for something as trivial as spitting n the sidewalk, then you're golden.

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:40 AM (f3oO4)

    193 Well, shit, I didn't know your house for sale could be on utoob. weird.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 09:40 AM (9L2du)

    194 If the sub's still edible,
    my story's credible!

    If the bun's not flattened,
    it really happened!

    If the sandwich fits,
    you must acquit!

    Posted by: Jussie N. Casey, Perfessional Acter at February 16, 2019 09:41 AM (Ndje9)

    195 Given the quantity and volume of her purr, I hope she thinks she ended up in good place.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:39 AM (DMUuz)


    That kitten knew she had scored the minute you picked her up!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:41 AM (f3oO4)

    196 185

    If I could citizen's arrest people...

    Why can't you? Did they repeal that law? I know we never hear about anyone doing that anymore, but is it illegal now?

    If not, then that could possibly be an avenue to stop some Pantifa thuggery. It would need some coordination and a really good legal team behind it, but I'd think it might work.
    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)


    And bike locks. Plenty of bike locks.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 09:41 AM (sdi6R)

    197 I have a small blue SUV. Does that count?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (MVjcR)

    198 Maybe this year the door prize could be a horse...

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (kufk0)


    I'd take one of Ben Had's nags in a heartbeat I think!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (f3oO4)

    199 In this case, some *ssh*le(s) quite literally dumped the kitten out of a moving vehicle, most likely the night before the MoMe.

    Given the quantity and volume of her purr, I hope she thinks she ended up in good place.
    Posted by: Duncanthrax
    ----
    She hit the kitty jackpot with you!

    Since she was under our motor home meowing that morning we thought it was our kitten at first but quickly figured out she wasn't. Then my daughter had to go find the source of the meowing... and now you have the perfect kitteh!

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (kufk0)

    200 I have a small blue SUV. Does that count?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (MVjcR)

    You just lost substantial Farmer Cred, bro'!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (f3oO4)

    201 It is a cute movie but a bid overrated imo. It is horribly anti-Christian. But that is de rigueur these days.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:30 AM (n13/



    Refresh my memory about the anti-Christian bits. I seem to remember a voodoo guy but not much else.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:38 AM (PuNSu)

    You kind of just have to watch it. I am not stick in the mud and take a joke. But they push it pretty hard for a light hearted comedy. The Christian guy who tries to say a prayer is mocked by all of them. One of the characters farts in his general direction. You just have to see it.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:44 AM (n13/j)

    202 Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (kufk0)
    -----
    Weasel would be a good name for a kitty!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:44 AM (MVjcR)

    203 ''WANT REAL WINNING? VOTE MITT 2020.''

    Haven't heard muchout of Mitt lately.. Also, where's Hillary?

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 09:44 AM (jm1YL)

    204 200 I have a small blue SUV. Does that count?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (MVjcR)

    You just lost substantial Farmer Cred, bro'!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (f3oO4)
    -----
    And it's a BMW.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:45 AM (MVjcR)

    205 Weasel would be a good name for a kitty!
    Posted by: Weasel
    ---
    Nice try!

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:45 AM (kufk0)

    206 You kind of just have to watch it. I am not stick in the mud and take a joke. But they push it pretty hard for a light hearted comedy. The Christian guy who tries to say a prayer is mocked by all of them. One of the characters farts in his general direction. You just have to see it.
    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:44 AM (n13

    Anti-Christian is pretty common. In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (PuNSu)

    207 204 200 I have a small blue SUV. Does that count?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (MVjcR)

    You just lost substantial nearly all Farmer Cred, bro'!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (f3oO4)
    -----
    And it's a BMW.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:45 AM (MVjcR)

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (f3oO4)

    208 I have a small blue SUV. Does that count?
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:42 AM (MVjcR)

    You just lost substantial Farmer Cred, bro'!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:43 AM (f3oO4)


    Have you seen the license plate?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (t+qrx)

    209

    Might I suggest you have a really good legal team on retainer before you attempt this, because every government funded liberal group will be trying to bankrupt and expose you as a racist hater*!

    That's what I meant about being coordinated. You'd need to have all your legal ducks in a row and be prepared for what you know would happen, as you describe. I think you'd need the law itself plus any precedents. It would need to be pretty airtight legally, enough so some Hawaiian judge's wrong ruling would be easily overturned.
    Especially if there's some arcane law that states that officials must enforce the law. If it's a big enough uproar, even if you didn't win, it'd wake some more people up.
    I'm thinking specifically of the situation in Portland where Pantifa has taken over blocks of property with the apparent approval of the city government.
    It'd be worth a try at least, IMO. We've got to start showing some strength against the Progs and start fighting back.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (HaL55)

    210 Because to be a member of the middle and/or working class, you:

    1) Obey and respect the Law
    2) Have planned out your life and have goals
    3) Have responsibility to your family
    4) Don't have a lot of free time because of family, church, business, friends, social obligations
    5) Aren't sitting around waiting for someone or something like gov't to make your life better, you're doing it yourself for yourself.
    6)Take responsibility for your own life.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (CRRq9)

    You left off number 7:
    7. Are suicidal after years of the first 6.

    Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (3sjI6)

    211 Weasel would be a good name for a kitty!
    Posted by: Weasel
    ---
    Nice try!

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:45 AM (kufk0)


    I don't think WC for Weasel Cat would be a good choice!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (f3oO4)

    212


    I don't think WC for Weasel Cat would be a good choice!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (f3oO4)
    ------
    Yeah. Already taken!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:48 AM (MVjcR)

    213 I thought the Christian pitcher vs. Voodoo slugger thing was just a plot devise to show how they came together as a team at the end. And to push a few jokes.
    But let's not overthink Major League on a Saturday morning.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 09:48 AM (4thlk)

    214 "a misgendered mountain lion in mid-transition"Posted by muldoon

    and stressed out by Trump deplorables not accepting his path. or partially eaten makes sense too.


    Of course any moron here could handle a cat like that, or two at a time. But I'd rather just shoot it, so I wouldn't have to come home and get the needle and thread out, to stitch up the gashes, Rambo style.



    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 09:49 AM (Cus5s)

    215 Weasel,
    I still have your weasel gecko waiting to ship to you....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:49 AM (kufk0)

    216 206
    Anti-Christian is pretty common. In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian.
    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (PuNSu)


    I don't see a lot of movies, but there must have been some. Might make a good topic or subtopic for a Movie Thread.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 09:49 AM (sdi6R)

    217 We've got to start showing some strength against the Progs and start fighting back.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:47 AM (HaL55)


    I agree, but I don't there are many lawyers willing to risk their country club memberships to defend righteous citizens acting within the law.

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM (f3oO4)

    218 Anti-Christian is pretty common. In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (PuNSu)

    The thing with this movie is that it seemed so unnecessary. Again, the movie overall it cute and the voodoo thing is fine. But when I noticed how far they went to mainstream Christian bashing, it made the show less fun. There wasn't even any humor in it. It was like the left when they try to move the goal posts by mainstreaming radicalism.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM (n13/j)

    219 What I meant was that Major League has a girl team owner who wants the team to lose, which was also the gag in Slapshot.

    Except Slapshot is the best sports movie ever and Major League isn't.

    So, funny sidebar. I saw Major League in Paris, it was in English and subtitled in French. The French subtitle writers did not have a clue about how baseball works.

    So Bob Uecker would say "he's batting .270 this season" and the subtitle would be "he has 270 hits this season". Then the next batter is up and Uecker says "he's a .250 lifetime hitter" and the subtitle went "he has 250 hits in his lifetime."

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM (fuK7c)

    220 215 Weasel,
    I still have your weasel gecko waiting to ship to you....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:49 AM (kufk0)
    -------
    You'll need to talk with WeaselWoman at the MoMe! I don't know nuthin' 'bout raisin' no lizards!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:51 AM (MVjcR)

    221 Weasel would be a good name for a kitty!
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:44 AM


    Concur, however given that, I must say that I am surprised at the amount of Mustelid disparagement that goes on around here at times.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:51 AM (DMUuz)

    222 Weasel,
    I still have your weasel gecko waiting to ship to you....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:49 AM (kufk0)


    So WG joins the Weasel crew?

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:51 AM (f3oO4)

    223
    Concur, however given that, I must say that I am surprised at the amount of Mustelid disparagement that goes on around here at times.
    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:51 AM (DMUuz)
    -----
    I know, right!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (MVjcR)

    224 If I could citizen's arrest people...
    ------------------
    Why can't you? Did they repeal that law? I know we never hear about anyone doing that anymore, but is it illegal now?

    If not, then that could possibly be an avenue to stop some Pantifa thuggery. It would need some coordination and a really good legal team behind it, but I'd think it might work.
    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 09:37 AM (HaL55)


    I have no idea, I ain't no legal beagle.

    I figure though, anything that would take away from the brilliantly profitable enterprise that is the "justice" system, and how it tickets people for driving while revoked and without insurance and all that... they have a system, and if YOU try to mess with it... well, you think the Sicilians could be harsh with those horning in on their territory...

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (cY3LT)

    225
    Growing up 15 mins. from the OH border, I can verify that they can't drive worth a shit. Add in no vehicle inspection as well.
    ____"""_"""_________
    NJ drivers should not be allowed to drive outside NJ until they pass a driving test in another state.

    Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (mSVWc)

    226 thought the Christian pitcher vs. Voodoo slugger
    thing was just a plot devise to show how they came together as a team at
    the end. And to push a few jokes.
    But let's not overthink Major League on a Saturday morning.


    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 09:48 AM (4thlk)

    I hear ya. Again, it was a cute movie overall. I welcome people to watch it with the Christian thing in mind. Judge for yourself.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (n13/j)

    227 So Bob Uecker would say "he's batting .270 this season" and the subtitle would be "he has 270 hits this season". Then the next batter is up and Uecker says "he's a .250 lifetime hitter" and the subtitle went "he has 250 hits in his lifetime."
    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM


    Given the persona that Mr. Uecker developed after his career, the above could be accepted as not fake news.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (DMUuz)

    228
    Then the next batter is up and Uecker says "he's a .250 lifetime hitter" and the subtitle went "he has 250 hits in his lifetime."

    Posted by: Bändërsnätch at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM


    Fluent in both French and German? I thought it was nothing but river rats that came out of Bucks County.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 09:53 AM (jYje5)

    229 Catch y'all later. I gotta get ready to go out and get some doggie meds and possibly a kitteh while driving my giant GM suv while 5ft tall! I hope no one dies today....

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:53 AM (kufk0)

    230 Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (cY3LT)


    Yes, yet another club that "we" are NOT in!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:54 AM (f3oO4)

    231 America is so great . . .

    https://bit.ly/2GMLWH5

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2019 09:54 AM (+y/Ru)

    232 Aurora IL shooter was black, a convicted felon, and there goes that one, down the memory hole.

    Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 16, 2019 09:54 AM (+fPHo)

    233 Catch y'all later. I gotta get ready to go out and get some doggie meds and possibly a kitteh while driving my giant GM suv while 5ft tall! I hope no one dies today....
    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 09:53 AM (kufk0)


    Have a nice kitten, lin-duh!

    Day. I meant have a kitten day.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (t+qrx)

    234 In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian.
    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (PuNSu)

    I don't see a lot of movies, but there must have been some.



    Let's stick with sports movies. In Bull Durham there's a guy who's a devout Christian who ends up hooking up with the team slut. People had sort of side-eyed him for his sappy Christianity. They get married. He redeems her. Everyone is happy.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (fuK7c)

    235 Actual work calls, hope I can make the Prestigious Pet Thread while it is still active, but I'll read it in any event

    Have a nice day!
    ~H

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (f3oO4)

    236 That kitten knew she had scored the minute you picked her up!
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:41 AM


    Well, we've come to the conclusion that we're the ones who scored. I thought a few weeks ago that I got the best door prize of all with Ace (or The Princess, as we sometimes call her).

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:56 AM (DMUuz)

    237
    Let's stick with sports movies. In Bull Durham there's a guy who's a devout Christian who ends up hooking up with the team slut. People had sort of side-eyed him for his sappy Christianity. They get married. He redeems her. Everyone is happy.
    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (fuK7c)

    Cool. I don't remember that.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:56 AM (PuNSu)

    238 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 09:56 AM (DMUuz)

    A most excellent outcome for all concerned, bravo!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 09:57 AM (f3oO4)

    239
    NJ drivers should not be allowed to drive outside NJ until they pass a driving test in another state.

    Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM


    I had a license in Pennsylvania but because of police corruption and a crooked judge (who ended up perp-marched out of his courtroom in leg irons) I thought I might lose it.

    Having a second address I went over to Jersey. Popped in, picked up their handbook, went out to the parking lot and read through it, went back in and aced the test. 15 minutes total time, if that. Incredibly easy test. The driving part I didn't need.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 09:58 AM (jYje5)

    240 Let's stick with sports movies. In Bull Durham
    there's a guy who's a devout Christian who ends up hooking up with the
    team slut. People had sort of side-eyed him for his sappy Christianity.
    They get married. He redeems her. Everyone is happy.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (fuK7c)

    I thought about that too. Same genre, even same subject. Bull Durham would be considered a much more racy movie but it treated the token Christian guy with a lot more respect. And again, my complaint is not about how they treat the character, as the guy in major league is a bit of an ass. But I found the treatment of Christianity to be over the top insulting. It is still a decent flick.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 09:58 AM (n13/j)

    241 I remember Uecker bragging on Johnny Carson how he batted .400 one year in spring training, how he was on fire. He went 2 for 5.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 09:59 AM (4thlk)

    242 Democrats crossed the line long ago. Civil War is inevitable unless the middle just folds.

    Posted by: monkey at February 16, 2019 09:59 AM (FTPVM)

    243 I thought the Christian pitcher vs. Voodoo slugger thing was just a plot devise to show how they came together as a team at the end. And to push a few jokes.
    But let's not overthink Major League on a Saturday morning.
    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 09:48 AM (4thlk)



    Bull Durham, on the other hand, was a thoughtful and persuasive take on the sacrament of marriage and the importance of the candlestick industry.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 09:59 AM (cY3LT)

    244 Turns out SUV's aren't so rugged for off-road adventures as they would like you to believe.

    I note the driver's side front suspension broke.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:00 AM (w54mS)

    245 ''Growing up 15 mins. from the OH border, I can verify that they can't drive worth a shit. Add in no vehicle inspection as well. ''

    Oh stop with that. OH drivers are no worse than any other state drivers although having lived in several southern states I can testify that drivers there do not know how to drive on snow and ice. But I always give them some slack since that type of weather is so rare down there.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 10:00 AM (jm1YL)

    246 Anti-Christian is pretty common. In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 09:46 AM (PuNSu)




    Going My Way

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 10:00 AM (SiINZ)

    247 I thought Bull Durham was Janet Weiss's sequel after the Rocky Horror Picture Show?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 10:02 AM (DMUuz)

    248 My Saturday morning workout:
    *right click*open new tab*right click*open new tab*
    Repeat.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:03 AM (ty7RM)

    249 AMC
    Outlaw Josey Wales.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 10:04 AM (n13/j)

    250 ''Turns out SUV's aren't so rugged for off-road adventures as they would like you to believe. ''

    I hate driving on ice as I'm sure everyone does. That was spectacular good luck he didn't hit another car.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 10:05 AM (jm1YL)

    251 I thought Bull Durham was Janet Weiss's sequel after the Rocky Horror Picture Show?


    She showed spectacular things in "Atlantic City" in between.

    Posted by: Louis Malle at February 16, 2019 10:05 AM (fuK7c)

    252 Let's stick with sports movies. In Bull Durham there's a guy who's a devout Christian who ends up hooking up with the team slut. People had sort of side-eyed him for his sappy Christianity. They get married. He redeems her. Everyone is happy.
    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:55 AM (fuK7c)


    Oops, I was a bit slow...

    Not a Christian movie, but Starship Troopers 3, which won't get much love from the book people, has a female character who is introduced at the beginning AS IF she is nothing but a slut, kept around so the general (or whatever) could have a piece when he wanted it.

    Turns out that was completely wrong! Not only is she not a slut, but her character is strong in her faith, continues to keep it all while those around her mock her and/or lose their faith in whatever it is they believe in.

    And in the end, she's right! One could say her prayers are answered, although I suppose the atheists might just say it was all coincidence.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 10:06 AM (cY3LT)

    253 Aurora IL shooter was black, a convicted felon, and there goes that one, down the memory hole.

    -
    Really it was the 400 years of slavery that did it.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2019 10:06 AM (+y/Ru)

    254 Can we get an Abolish FBI thing going?

    Seriously I just think we are done here. Fire them all. Supposedly there are good agents blah blah blah. Except there is no evidence of such.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 10:07 AM (ZfRYq)

    255
    Protestors returning to a spot from a month or so ago. There was a riverfront restaurant there that got torched. It's now gone.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 10:07 AM (jYje5)

    256 225
    NJ drivers should not be allowed to drive outside NJ until they pass a driving test in another state.
    Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (mSVWc)


    Now there's an idea. Let's make drivers license laws exactly the same as gun laws.

    There was a PA woman who had a concealed carry permit who got stopped for a traffic violation in NJ and was arrested, convicted, and sentenced to prison because NJ didn't recognize her PA permit.

    Make drivers get licenses for all 50 states and maybe some of this idiocy would stop.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 10:07 AM (sdi6R)

    257 Outlaw Josey Wales.


    Hah! That's Dean Vernon Wormer.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:07 AM (fuK7c)

    258 'Let's stick with sports movies. In Bull Durham there's a guy who's a devout Christian who ends up hooking up with the team slut. People had sort of side-eyed him for his sappy Christianity. They get married. He redeems her. Everyone is happy. ''

    The scene where the team is discussing wedding presents mid field during a game is still funny.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 10:08 AM (jm1YL)

    259 "In fact I can't remember a mainstream movie with a positive portrayal of a Christian"


    Wasn't "The Passion of the Christ" a huge box office success? It might not have been an overtly positive portrayal of Christianity but a more realistic one. A religion based on a brutal beginning with a harsh but self sacrificing God.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 10:08 AM (4thlk)

    260 I wouldn't have to come home and get the needle and thread out, to stitch up the gashes, Rambo style.

    Posted by: illiniwek
    ---------

    You don't keep suture materials with you at all times?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:08 AM (w54mS)

    261 Hah! That's Dean Vernon Wormer.

    Actor John Vernon.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 10:09 AM (oVJmc)

    262 You don't keep suture materials with you at all times?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16,

    2019 10:08 AM (w54mS)

    duct tape?

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:10 AM (cxHbL)

    263 What I meant was that Major League has a girl team owner who wants the team to lose, which was also the gag in Slapshot.



    Except Slapshot is the best sports movie ever and Major League isn't.



    So, funny sidebar. I saw Major League in Paris, it was in English
    and subtitled in French. The French subtitle writers did not have a
    clue about how baseball works.



    So Bob Uecker would say "he's batting .270 this season" and the
    subtitle would be "he has 270 hits this season". Then the next batter
    is up and Uecker says "he's a .250 lifetime hitter" and the subtitle
    went "he has 250 hits in his lifetime."

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 09:50 AM (fuK7c)

    That is pretty funny. I saw "what lies beneath" in Paris. I doubt I would remember that if it was not Paris. The theatres there are nice. They have comfy chairs and you can get a cold one.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 10:12 AM (n13/j)

    264 Who was the guitar maker the Obamanites persecuted?

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:13 AM (imIdB)

    265 Who was the guitar maker the Obamanites persecuted?
    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:13 AM (imIdB)


    Gibson.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (t+qrx)

    266 Who was the guitar maker the Obamanites persecuted?

    Gibson.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (oVJmc)

    267 Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:13 AM (imIdB)

    Gibson

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (cxHbL)

    268
    Things heating up again in war-torn Paris.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (jYje5)

    269
    You don't keep suture materials with you at all times?
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:08 AM (w54mS)
    ------
    I have suture kits in my first aid kit at the farm. If something happens I'm pretty much going to have to deal with it myself.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (MVjcR)

    270 Who was the guitar maker the Obamanites persecuted?


    Oh, was it Gibson? Somebody got all their exotic hardwoods held up in customs.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (fuK7c)

    271 I'm so old I remember when you could still smoke in theaters.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (4thlk)

    272
    A mountain lion by choking was rendered
    Dead. But then horribly misgendered
    So that trannie cat ghost
    Went online to reposte
    Choking's a hate crime when anal's not tendered

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (CRRq9)

    273 Somebody got all their exotic hardwoods held up in customs.
    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (fuK7c)


    Is that a double entendre? It sounds like a double entendre.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 10:16 AM (t+qrx)

    274
    Oh, was it Gibson? Somebody got all their exotic hardwoods held up in customs.


    IIRC, they got raided, too.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 10:16 AM (oVJmc)

    275 I saw Black Rain in Athens Greece. It was English with Greek subtitles. No problem. Except they overwrote the English subtitles when the Japanese were speaking.

    I missed a complete plot point and was confused at the end. Had to watch it again later on VHS to understand.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 10:16 AM (ZfRYq)

    276 270 Who was the guitar maker the Obamanites persecuted?




    Oh, was it Gibson? Somebody got all their exotic hardwoods held up in customs.
    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (fuK7c)i bought my husband the "gov't issue" they put out after

    Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 16, 2019 10:17 AM (0O7c5)

    277 @269 slap hot iron to it.

    Really people, you are lagging.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 10:17 AM (ZfRYq)

    278 Oh, was it Gibson? Somebody got all their exotic hardwoods held up in customs.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:15 AM (fuK7c)

    It was rosewood for fretboards....Indian, I think. The Feds raided the factory. Gibson switched to "baked maple" for a while.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:18 AM (cxHbL)

    279 Things heating up again in war-torn Paris.

    The Yellow Vests are so up at arms they only take 90 minutes for lunch.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 10:19 AM (oVJmc)

    280 Aurora IL shooter was black, a convicted felon, and there goes that one, down the memory hole.

    Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 16, 2019 09:54 AM (+fPHo)



    Gov. Jabba the Pritzker will still make it a gun grabbing excuse

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 10:19 AM (SiINZ)

    281 "gov't series"

    Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 16, 2019 10:19 AM (0O7c5)

    282 ''That is pretty funny. I saw "what lies beneath" in Paris. I doubt I would remember that if it was not Paris. The theatres there are nice. They have comfy chairs and you can get a cold one. ''

    Most of our local theaters are outfitted with the big comfy recliners now. Heck our multiplex has a nice bar in the lobby and I see plenty of people carrying their beers into the theater.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 10:19 AM (jm1YL)

    283 To be fair grace and redemption are common enough as movie themes, although I can't remember any at the moment

    To continue being fair The Passion of the Christ was a hit.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 10:20 AM (PuNSu)

    284 I wouldn't have to come home and get the needle and thread out, to stitch up the gashes, Rambo style.
    Posted by: illiniwek

    =====

    You don't keep suture materials with you at all times?
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:08 AM


    You don't keep hot iron with you at all times?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (DMUuz)

    285 The Gibson thing was over fretboards, ebony I think.

    The law says a certain amount of work has to be done in the country of origin. The fretboards shipped from the source (pretty sure India) with paperwork saying it was compliant. FEDs raided anyway.

    Gibson eventually got the fretboards back and made a limited edition run out of 'em. They're in bad shape as a company though ... for many other reasons.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (2CWVN)

    286 I have suture kits in my first aid kit at the farm. If something happens I'm pretty much going to have to deal with it myself.
    Posted by: Weasel

    Ya gotta teach Weasel Dog First Aid !

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (nubzz)

    287 Bruno Ganz has died - he's the Swiss actor who played Hitler in "Downfall."
    How long before someone puts up a "Hitler finds out that...." video?

    Posted by: Annalucia at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (S6ArX)

    288 I saw Black Rain in Athens Greece. It was English
    with Greek subtitles. No problem. Except they overwrote the English
    subtitles when the Japanese were speaking.



    I missed a complete plot point and was confused at the end. Had to watch it again later on VHS to understand.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 10:16 AM (ZfRYq)

    good flick. So the Japanese spoke Greek?

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (n13/j)

    289 See Also: Joe the plumber, and the rodeo clown.

    I mention 'Stalin', and 'NKVD' to 'Liberals', and they have no idea what I'm talking about.

    Why, it is as though the schools have been taken over by the Left.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (HTHlp)

    290 War torn Paris?

    Please.

    Posted by: Any American City that Wins a Sports Championship at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (ZxU8C)

    291 I also think it's beyond curious that McCabe is going on a media tour right now and already stepping on his crank. The story he is now telling directly conflicts with his Congressional testimony and those of others like Comey.

    And if he isn't in legal jeopardy, why did his lawyer rush to put out a statement clarifying his 60 Minutes interview? If nobody cares then who cares what he says about what went down?

    Anyway, all we can do is wait and watch and speculate. Tomorrow evening when the full interview airs should be interesting.
    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 09:07 AM (/tuJf)


    Does anyone doubt that CBS will edit the interview per McCabe's instructions?

    Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2019 10:22 AM (y7DUB)

    292 The movie Hoosiers featured a few 'Christian' scenes and had a religious player and two preachers portrayed in a positive light. Then again, it was 30 years ago.

    Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 16, 2019 10:22 AM (FTlwv)

    293 @quint no the Japanese spoke Japanese.

    But their subtitles were Greek. On top of the English subtitles so I could not read them.

    Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2019 10:22 AM (ZfRYq)

    294

    The shooting in Aurora was at the Henry Pratt Company. Made me think of Boris Karloff since his real name was William Henry Pratt

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 10:23 AM (SiINZ)

    295 I love how progtards, (and ONLY progtards) can "walk back" comments made in nationally televised interviews...beFU*^INGfore they're even televised. I guess CBS will just go ahead and have to edit Andy McCabes treasonous reveal. Because, walk back.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:23 AM (ty7RM)

    296 Double check says .... ebony for sure. Does Gibson do rosewood ?

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:24 AM (2CWVN)

    297 Either McCabe book is total fiction or there needs to be a whole lot of people locked up for attempting a government takeover, pick one.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 10:24 AM (/rm4P)

    298 I love how progtards, (and ONLY progtards) can "walk back" comments made in nationally televised interviews.
    -----

    For them, history begins this morning. Whatever they did yesterday is airbrushed out.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (ZMWtN)

    299 Bruno Ganz has died - he's the Swiss actor who played Hitler in "Downfall."
    How long before someone puts up a "Hitler finds out that...." video?



    Huh. He took a major career risk to play Hitler, because he made him human.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (fuK7c)

    300 Does anyone doubt that CBS will edit the interview per McCabe's instructions?
    =====================
    Aww shit, ya beat me to it...

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (ty7RM)

    301 There.

    Doing my part for the revolution.

    Posted by: blaster, Abolish FBI at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (ZfRYq)

    302

    I figure though, anything that would take away from the brilliantly
    profitable enterprise that is the "justice" system, and how it tickets
    people for driving while revoked and without insurance and all that...
    they have a system, and if YOU try to mess with it... well, you think
    the Sicilians could be harsh with those horning in on their territory...


    I'd be bringing them business, not horning in on it. Expanding their customer base so to speak. What's not to like?
    "Here's a customer and here's what he (or she as the case may be) did to violate this law. Have fun.
    What? You don't want to enforce this law where there's been X dollars in easily provable damage? How interesting."
    Oh well, it's still fun to think about. I'm weird that way.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (HaL55)

    303 Most of our local theaters are outfitted with the
    big comfy recliners now. Heck our multiplex has a nice bar in the lobby
    and I see plenty of people carrying their beers into the theater.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 16, 2019 10:19 AM (jm1YL)

    We used to sneak them in. The worst was accidentally letting a glass bottle roll down the theater floor. It was loud and went on forever.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 10:26 AM (n13/j)

    304 Was it hardwoods at customs or did they raid the company's storage.

    And speaking of,,, if you're going to fly with a rosewood or other "restricted hardwood" guitar make triple sure you have all the necessary paperwork required to prove it's "legit."

    My Taylor is gtg but it will still never see so much as the inside of a bus.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 10:26 AM (/SHNS)

    305
    I mention 'Stalin', and 'NKVD' to 'Liberals', and they have no idea what I'm talking about.

    Why, it is as though the schools have been taken over by the Left.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (HTHlp)

    The only evil person the left is aware of is Hitler. Calling someone a Stalanist would be understood at all.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2019 10:27 AM (PuNSu)

    306 Made me think of Boris Karloff since his real name was William Henry Pratt

    Heh.

    Posted by: John Jacon Jingleheimer Schmidt at February 16, 2019 10:28 AM (ZxU8C)

    307 'If he does this, the democrats may do something crazy once they get back in power'.

    Or if he doesn't do this.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 10:28 AM (f6lTY)

    308 They went right into Gibson in Nashville. They took necks, complete guitars, anything with those fretboards in place.

    Gibson had the paperwork. The GOVT basically said India lied.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:28 AM (2CWVN)

    309 285 Gibson was targeted due to their leadership supporting McCain. I just read they are in financial distress, wondered if it had anything to do with Marxist persecution.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:29 AM (imIdB)

    310 I want Dems to keep up with the as soon as you elect a Democrat President we'll declare an emergency and take your guns talk.

    Posted by: blaster, Abolish FBI at February 16, 2019 10:29 AM (ZfRYq)

    311 I love how progtards, (and ONLY progtards) can "walk back" comments made in nationally televised interviews...beFU*^INGfore they're even televised. I guess CBS will just go ahead and have to edit Andy McCabes treasonous reveal. Because, walk back.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:23 AM (ty7RM)



    Nothing will ever happen to them unless we have a Pinochet revolt

    Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2019 10:30 AM (SiINZ)

    312 Kallisto - How goes the job search ?

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 10:30 AM (nubzz)

    313 And come on - half the friggin' Fender Teles out there have a rosewood neck. Now you want everybody to have paperwork for 'em ?

    These ain't antiques. Mine cost $400 new .... 15 years ago.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (2CWVN)

    314 For them, history begins this morning. Whatever they did yesterday is airbrushed out.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM



    Everything within The Narrative; nothing without The Narrative, Comrade.

    We must always be progressing toward our Glorious Progressive Future!

    Posted by: Proggies! at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (DMUuz)

    315 Got some rock throwing at the Paris protests and a AoS flag again

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (/rm4P)

    316 They went right into Gibson in Nashville. They took necks, complete guitars, anything with those fretboards in place.

    Gibson had the paperwork. The GOVT basically said India lied.
    Posted by: Steve Borden
    ---------

    We had a local company that was swatted by the EPA, on account of a bitter ex-employee.

    When I say 'swatted', I mean the real thing, EPA stormtrooopers armed and outfitted for full battle staged the raid.

    The consequence? Zero. There was nothing going on there at all. Nothing.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (U2TY5)

    317 Does Gibson do rosewood ?

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:24 AM (2CWVN)

    They used to.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (cxHbL)

    318 Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:29 AM (imIdB)

    Nah ... Gibson is in trouble because their quality went to shit, and now their space-age auto-tuner is on most of 'em.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:33 AM (2CWVN)

    319 Does Gibson do rosewood ?


    You know, if I weren't following this thread that could look filthy.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:33 AM (fuK7c)

    320

    Gibson was targeted due to their leadership supporting McCain. I just
    read they are in financial distress, wondered if it had anything to do
    with Marxist persecution.


    From what I can gather, yeah. That raid was a farce, a show of force by a tyrant. I'm pretty sure they were doing fine prior to that. But I'm a Fender guy (mandatory if your a blues player), so I don't keep up with Gibson that well.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (HaL55)

    321 Are those pesky Yellow Jackets still upset about their pensions?

    Posted by: Ripley at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (MxEKc)

    322 And come on - half the friggin' Fender Teles out there have a rosewood neck. Now you want everybody to have paperwork for 'em ?

    These ain't antiques. Mine cost $400 new .... 15 years ago.
    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (2CWVN)

    I prefer maple anyway.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (cxHbL)

    323 304 I just got the Taylor magazine, that's why geetars are on my mind. The former owner of this house must have subscribed.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (imIdB)

    324 The consequence? Zero. There was nothing going on there at all. Nothing.
    ====================
    That's pretty common for disgruntled employees to call the EPA on former employers. It's kind of sick how terrifying it is. Their favorite tactic? Go to the secretaries desk, pull out a bottle of White Out, and ask to see the MSDS for this "hazardous" material.
    Fuckers.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (ty7RM)

    325
    Gibson eventually got the fretboards back and made a limited edition run out of 'em. They're in bad shape as a company though ... for many other reasons.
    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:21 AM (2CWVN)







    They filed Chapter 11 last year, mostly because they've made some boneheaded financial moves in the past 10 years or so.

    Plus, they have a bad habit of building shitloads of really weird variants of the flagship Les Paul model, but they flat out refuse to fix some of the known flaws of the original design (specifically the really weak headstock which breaks if you look at it funny). Another stupid idea: the autotuning system that no one asked for, that they put into EVERY Les Paul for several years.

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (juqNl)

    326 We had a local company that was swatted by the EPA, on account of a bitter ex-employee.

    When I say 'swatted', I mean the real thing, EPA stormtrooopers armed and outfitted for full battle staged the raid.

    The consequence? Zero. There was nothing going on there at all. Nothing.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:31 AM (U2TY5)

    The EPA doesn't need its own Schutzstaffel. And yet, there it is. The war footing the government has taken against the people is alarming enough, but this arming up of administrative agencies is especially frightening.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 10:35 AM (ywNoU)

    327 Steve, as a guess I would think Gibson uses rosewood for back and sides on at least some of their higher end accoustics.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 10:36 AM (/SHNS)

    328 But I'm a Fender guy (mandatory if your a blues player), so I don't keep up with Gibson that well.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (HaL55)

    Yeah, B B King was famous for his Fender "Lucille".

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:36 AM (cxHbL)

    329 I prefer maple anyway.
    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (cxHbL)


    You play fast ? I don't - but I like that warm sound from rosewood. But I can see why a guy like Brad Paisley would play maple. Rosewood would be too mushy.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:37 AM (2CWVN)

    330 I prefer maple - in syrup!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:38 AM (MVjcR)

    331 305 The only evil person the left is aware of is Hitler. Calling someone a Stalanist would be understood at all.

    Had a conversation with a 3rd year law student (all in for Kamala Harris) who did not know that Hitler was a Nazi; that Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers Party; that the word nazi was originally used to insult the original Nazis who called themselves National Socialists; and that the original Nazis were Austrians and Germans.

    Either this lug was jerking me around or they really are that dumb.

    Posted by: VADM Collingwood at February 16, 2019 10:38 AM (9X60i)

    332
    Either this lug was jerking me around or they really are that dumb.

    Posted by: VADM Collingwood at February 16, 2019 10:38 AM (9X60i)







    I know where I'm putting my bet.

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2019 10:38 AM (juqNl)

    333 The war footing the government has taken against the people is alarming enough, but this arming up of administrative agencies is especially frightening.
    Posted by: Insomniac
    ---------

    On July 2, 2008, then presidential candidate, Barack Obama said, "We cannot rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We gotta have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:39 AM (fZcn6)

    334 312. I'm temping 5 minutes from my house so for the moment I'm not a drain on society.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:39 AM (imIdB)

    335 Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:37 AM (2CWVN)

    Just the feel primarily.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:39 AM (cxHbL)

    336

    Yeah, B B King was famous for his Fender "Lucille".

    If you're a bass player down here, you'd better have a Fender bass or two. Preferably an old P-Bass plus a Jazz.
    Our saying is, you only get one sound from a Fender bass, but it's the right one.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:40 AM (HaL55)

    337 I love how progtards, (and ONLY progtards) can "walk back" comments made in nationally televised interviews...beFU*^INGfore they're even televised. I guess CBS will just go ahead and have to edit Andy McCabes treasonous reveal. Because, walk back.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:23 AM (ty7RM)



    What's amazing is that they're in the News Business-

    and they're willing to bury the lead?

    Think about that.

    A witness giving direct evidence of a coup attempt, insurrection, treason, etc on their network exclusively[/i-]-

    and CBS is going to throw that away.

    Everyone involved should be fired immediately.

    The stock holders should sue.

    They are literally throwing away bombshell news that if pursued would give them a massive audience share.

    Retards all.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:40 AM (CRRq9)

    338 Just the feel primarily.
    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:39 AM (cxHbL)


    Makes sense.

    I've read that Fender rolled out rosewood back in the day primarily with the idea that you could clean them less. Go figure.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (2CWVN)

    339 Does anyone doubt that CBS will edit the interview per McCabe's instructions?
    =====================
    Aww shit, ya beat me to it...
    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (ty7RM)


    That's ok, the more people talking about it the better. The first time I heard about the interview I thought it was dumb as fuck and couldn't believe his attorneys ok'd it. I'm still incredulous about it.

    Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (y7DUB)

    340
    Are those pesky Yellow Jackets still upset about their pensions?

    Posted by: Ripley at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM


    I think it has to do with the cost of the socialist paradise they created. When the 'makers' are paying something like 70% tax rates and the 'takers' can't afford to buy anything, you got problems.

    Macron played the 'moderate' socialist card and they got taken. Now there's no sign of accord in Paris.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (jYje5)

    341 kallisto, good chance the former homeowner owned a Taylor.
    Not sure how "high end" it has to be but I got a free, lifetime subscription when I bought my DN8.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (/SHNS)

    342 So this thread is about guitar wood? Or Weasel suturing himself?

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (9oE3U)

    343

    Barrel escape?

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:42 AM (CRRq9)

    344 I have suture kits in my first aid kit at the farm. If something happens I'm pretty much going to have to deal with it myself.
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (MVjcR)


    Consider getting both a surgical stapler and steristrips. Both are easier to deal with than sutures, and if you go to the MD for "finishing" they are easier to undo. And they will want to undo them to make sure you washed out all the grit and stuff.

    I was suggested to buy a pork shoulder, with the skin on, to practice on.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2019 10:43 AM (mUa7G)

    345 If you're a bass player down here, you'd better have a Fender bass or two. Preferably an old P-Bass plus a Jazz.
    Our saying is, you only get one sound from a Fender bass, but it's the right one.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:40 AM (HaL55)

    I wasn't talking bass. I've got a G&L w/ pb/jb configuration.....but I've only been playing bass for 6 mos.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:44 AM (cxHbL)

    346 Another stupid idea: the autotuning system that no one asked for, that they put into EVERY Les Paul for several years.

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2019 10:34 AM (juqNl)


    I've passed on more than one deal on an LPJ from Musicians Friend for exactly that.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:44 AM (2CWVN)

    347 >>> Bruno Ganz has died - he's the Swiss actor who played Hitler in "Downfall."
    How long before someone puts up a "Hitler finds out that...." video?

    Not long

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_L6c79zc8U

    Posted by: fluffy at February 16, 2019 10:44 AM (dCRRg)

    348 I was suggested to buy a pork shoulder, with the skin on, to practice on.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2019 10:43 AM (mUa7G)

    Hobo.

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:44 AM (9oE3U)

    349 I have suture kits in my first aid kit at the farm. If something happens I'm pretty much going to have to deal with it myself.
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (MVjcR)

    Consider getting both a surgical stapler and steristrips. Both are easier to deal with than sutures, and if you go to the MD for "finishing" they are easier to undo. And they will want to undo them to make sure you washed out all the grit and stuff.

    I was suggested to buy a pork shoulder, with the skin on, to practice on.
    Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2019 10:43 AM (mUa7G)



    Super Glue FTW.

    Originally concocted during the Vietnam War for use as a surgical glue.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:45 AM (CRRq9)

    350 IIRC one of TGE's first acts was to provide restitution to Gibson.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (imIdB)

    351 So this thread is about guitar wood? Or Weasel suturing himself?
    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM


    You're the guy who introduced self-suturing to The Horde's discourse.

    Cochran has his carrots, you have hot iron, to it, slap, 1 ea.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (DMUuz)

    352

    Consider getting both a surgical stapler and steristrips. Both are
    easier to deal with than sutures, and if you go to the MD for
    "finishing" they are easier to undo. And they will want to undo them to
    make sure you washed out all the grit and stuff.


    And Superglue. They used a surgical version to glue my chest back together after my double bypass. No sutures, no strips, no nothing. Took me a while to figure out what they did. Nice big clean scar.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (HaL55)

    353 Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 10:41 AM (/SHNS)

    All Taylors are "high end" to me.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (cxHbL)

    354 I figure though, anything that would take away from the brilliantly
    profitable enterprise that is the "justice" system, and how it tickets
    people for driving while revoked and without insurance and all that...
    they have a system, and if YOU try to mess with it... well, you think
    the Sicilians could be harsh with those horning in on their territory...
    ---------------------------------
    I'd be bringing them business, not horning in on it. Expanding their customer base so to speak. What's not to like?
    "Here's a customer and here's what he (or she as the case may be) did to violate this law. Have fun.
    What? You don't want to enforce this law where there's been X dollars in easily provable damage? How interesting."
    Oh well, it's still fun to think about. I'm weird that way.
    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:25 AM (HaL55)


    When I'm not being flippant about this subject, I will say in all honesty, the criminal justice system is about as corrupt as it can be.

    I operate around its edges,and get to see it pretty clearly from my vantage point. I don't begrudge ANYONE for making money in their profession, what I do object to is a system that is set up essentially ENTIRELY to make money for those who operate in it, and sells itself as something else.

    That's the law.

    The laws that get enforced are the ones that are profitable for the so-called justice system. The ones that get ignored are not enforced. It has nothing to do with right and wrong, and it has nothing to do with STOPPING lawbreaking from occurring.

    So... one of the consequences, and I think this is the worst part, is to encourage entire swaths of the population to view abiding by the law as a sellout. The absolute disrespect for the law is an INTENDED consequence of the "justice" system operating the way it does.

    Because it's good for business.

    End. Rant.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)

    355 Just saw that a 9th grader boy at KTE's school has been missing since yesterday afternoon.

    Please say a prayer for his quick & safe return.

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (BJlbN)

    356 I like super glue for sticking my fingers together, because that happens every single time.

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:47 AM (9oE3U)

    357 Leftists really do live in a dream world. Cops supposedly seize bleach from Jussie's apartment; leftist shit-for-brains can't understand why and/or react by saying "Everybody has bleach in their house!" The real nuts saying the CPD is framing Jussie in his own attack.

    https://twitter.com/MattFinnFNC/status/
    1096632394080088064

    Posted by: andycanuck at February 16, 2019 10:48 AM (Evws/)

    358 I like super glue for sticking my fingers together, because that happens every single time.

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:47 AM (9oE3U)



    Then you can pretend you're a seal!

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:48 AM (CRRq9)

    359 The ones that get ignored are not enforced.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)


    Supposed to say: The ones that get ignored (and not enforced) are the ones that aren't profitable for the Justice Industrial Complex.

    Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2019 10:49 AM (cY3LT)

    360 341 ok thanks. I think it was the son.

    Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2019 10:49 AM (imIdB)

    361 On July 2, 2008, then presidential candidate, Barack Obama said, "We cannot rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We gotta have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 10:39 AM (fZcn6)

    He certainly did. And the "civilian national security force" is turned against Americans.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 10:49 AM (ywNoU)

    362
    Then you can pretend you're a seal!

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:48 AM (CRRq9)

    ARF! Lol.

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:49 AM (9oE3U)

    363 Backwordsboy, you might love Steve's bass.
    Custom shop, I think jazz.
    Birdseye maple neck.
    Quilted cherry finish body.
    Gold tuners, pickups and knobs.
    Gorgeous.
    Bought me a Yamaha stage custom set in natural birch so I could at least kinda sorta fit in with his and Gary's tools of the trade.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 10:49 AM (/SHNS)

    364 Please. No discussion of teeth and pornography.
    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM

    This is about me, isn't it?

    Posted by: AOC at February 16, 2019 10:50 AM (hzGlR)

    365 I've got piles of exotic woods I've collected over the last 50 yrs. Thought about EBAYing them but worry about confiscation. And I wonder if I or my heirs will ever be able to unload my tortoise shell collection. It's all antique but they are getting whacky. A friend of mine had 7 tortoise tea caddies confiscated at a show.

    Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2019 10:51 AM (RZ6R1)

    366 Hah. The injun just said "endeavor to persevere".

    I'm kind of ashamed that I forgot where that came from.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2019 10:51 AM (fuK7c)

    367 O/T: does any moron/ette know how to turn OFF notifications from websites in Chrome? i accidentally enabled UK Daily Mail notifications; that was a baaad mistake.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:51 AM (ty7RM)

    368
    Guitar strings don't make a good suture
    If you use them, you won't have a future
    Use Super Glue for the win
    If it's trouble your in
    Use the guitar strings to strangle a cougar


    There now...this thread is all tied together.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:52 AM (CRRq9)

    369 surgical stapler ... ~$10 at Amazon, with 35 staples preloaded. Guess I need to buy a couple. But really, I'd probably wrap it, tape it, or plug it ... compress it ... then go to the clinic, get an estimate on stitches. Need to renew my tetanus shot, now that I think of it.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 10:53 AM (Cus5s)

    370 Outlaw Josey Wales is my favorite quoteworthy movie of all time.

    I love it when he spits on that carpetbagger. "How's it do on stains ?".

    Red Legs - "Doin' good ain't got no end !!!".

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 10:54 AM (2CWVN)

    371 362
    Then you can pretend you're a seal!
    ___________________________________

    I like the way you think.

    Posted by: Richard Blumenthal at February 16, 2019 10:56 AM (ZxU8C)

    372 344 I have suture kits in my first aid kit at the farm. If something happens I'm pretty much going to have to deal with it myself.
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:14 AM (MVjcR)

    Consider getting both a surgical stapler and steristrips. Both are easier to deal with than sutures, and if you go to the MD for "finishing" they are easier to undo. And they will want to undo them to make sure you washed out all the grit and stuff.

    I was suggested to buy a pork shoulder, with the skin on, to practice on.
    Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2019 10:43 AM (mUa7G)
    --------
    Yep. Have both. I have used suturing practice kits before and agree the stapler (and steristrips) are preferred!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 10:56 AM (MVjcR)

    373

    I wasn't talking bass. I've got a GL w/ pb/jb configuration.....but I've only been playing bass for 6 mos.
    I didn't mean to imply that all blues players played Fender guitars either.
    Have you been on UToob to check out Scott's Bass Lessons? He's got a really good channel.
    And if you like GampersandL's here's a clip that might interest you. A couple of Brits who run a music store dropped by their place prior to this year's NAMM show and got to go through Leo Fender's old office, which they've preserved.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiBT_1C0lxc

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:57 AM (HaL55)

    374 Aurora shooter was a convicted felon. Photo provided. Expect story to drop off MFM coverage for some strange reason...
    https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/
    1096572195508109313

    Posted by: andycanuck at February 16, 2019 10:57 AM (Evws/)

    375 Aurora IL shooter was black, a convicted felon, and there goes that one, down the memory hole.

    ---------

    Media narrative flowchart says "Demonize NRA"

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 10:57 AM (UGqF8)

    376 Well i should get out of bed and do something. Instead of just drinking one cuppa cawfee after another. Im pathetic.

    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (9oE3U)

    377 "We gotta have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."Posted by: Mike Hammer


    this is why I think DeepState has malicious intent (if there was any doubt). Barry didn't come up with that on his own, imo. Just like he didn't get into high office on his own. So who exactly was rolling out the concept of some internal national security Force?

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (Cus5s)

    378 The injun just said "endeavor to persevere".

    I'm kind of ashamed that I forgot where that came from.


    Sounds pretty British.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (jOEDM)

    379 Jussie Smollet has hired Michael Cohen's lawyer.

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (BXMxN)

    380 BignJames,
    When the trio went to Nashville year before last we were in Gruhn's and I played a few "cheaper" guitars while Gary was back in another room. One was an Academy 10e.
    When he came out I asked him to play it and tell me what he thought because, knowledgeable opinion.

    He messed around with it then looked at the price tag. Told me if I could afford one to get it for the gigs and leave the DN8 at home and quit risking dinging it up on my snare or hi-hat.

    Waited till we got back home to buy local.
    $650

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (/SHNS)

    381 376 Well i should get out of bed and do something. Instead of just drinking one cuppa cawfee after another. Im pathetic.
    Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'fine young handsome black cannibal' at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (9oE3U)

    Coffee in bed? Luxury! We didn't have coffee. Or a bed. We had to drink stagnant water out of the mud puddles on a dirt road! And we slept in a sewer tunnel with the rats!

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (ywNoU)

    382 "We gotta have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."Posted by: Mike Hammer


    this is why I think DeepState has malicious intent (if there was any doubt). Barry didn't come up with that on his own, imo. Just like he didn't get into high office on his own. So who exactly was rolling out the concept of some internal national security Force?

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (Cus5s)



    It's taken a while but the Commies kinda won this whole Cold War thing, didn't they?

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (CRRq9)

    383 NJ drivers should not be allowed to drive outside NJ until they pass a driving test in another state.

    Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2019 09:52 AM (mSVWc)

    Pffft! Most of you wouldn't survive in NJ. With the amount of cars we have on the road in a small congested state, you'd crap your pants if you drove on Rt 78 or 80 everyday. Try Rt 46 or 17 at rush hour. NJ drivers can negotiate the dreaded circle that you guys still can't seem to figure out. LOL!!

    Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (9YBqo)

    384 we need a law about felons owning firearms

    and we need a law about murdering people /s

    but no, they want to take all firearms from vulnerable civilians, so their thugs can rule with the iron fist, and so their mafias can pillage at will.

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 11:01 AM (Cus5s)

    385 379 Jussie Smollet has hired Michael Cohen's lawyer.
    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 11:00 AM (BXMxN)

    I'm surprised he didn't hire Creepy Porn Lawyer.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 11:01 AM (ywNoU)

    386 And we slept in a sewer tunnel with the rats!

    You had food, too?!

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 11:01 AM (jOEDM)

    387 So who exactly was rolling out the concept of some internal national security Force?
    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 10:58 AM (Cus5s)


    Same kind of folks that thought the proper response to two dozen muslims hijacking a few planes on 9/11 was an vastly expanded surveillance op on Americans. Same folks that think the Dept of Ed needs a SWAT Team. Same folks that think the police need MRAPs.

    Barry had plenty of like-minded folks on both sides of the aisle.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 11:01 AM (2CWVN)

    388 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 10:57 AM (HaL55)

    I took up bass 'cause a friend asked me if I would. He had to pass up a gig 'cause neither of his b-players could make it. I play 6 string....blues....12 and 8 bar, mostly.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 11:02 AM (cxHbL)

    389 386 And we slept in a sewer tunnel with the rats!

    You had food, too?!
    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 11:01 AM (jOEDM)

    No. We WERE food to the rats.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 11:02 AM (ywNoU)

    390 Okay, I'm back.

    So how many bushels of kittens is Lin-duh getting?

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (kQs4Y)

    391 You had sewer tunnels?! Luxury! We slept in open sewer ditches!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (MVjcR)

    392

    teej, *grabby hands* for both that bass and your drums. I have an entry-level set of Yamaha Rydeen drums and get a lot of compliments on their sound, which surprises me somewhat.
    I want to get a decent steel snare drum. I also need some drumming gigs.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (HaL55)

    393 Speaking of actual rats.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321943/

    Posted by: steevy at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (BXMxN)

    394 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2019 10:51 AM

    I use chrome as well as others, look at upper most right line( my tablet has 3 dots in a vertical line) look at downloads, start erasing there.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (/rm4P)

    395 Then you can pretend you're a seal!

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 10:48 AM

    But first....

    Posted by: A seal at February 16, 2019 11:05 AM (hzGlR)

    396 392

    teej, *grabby hands* for both that bass and your drums. I have an entry-level set of Yamaha Rydeen drums and get a lot of compliments on their sound, which surprises me somewhat.
    I want to get a decent steel snare drum. I also need some drumming gigs.
    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (HaL55)

    I have a cast-off beginner drum set that I'm trying to learn on. The whole arm-leg disconnect thing is kicking my ass, though my stick work is coming along.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 11:06 AM (ywNoU)

    397 prolly get willowed here.

    So, I've always been proud of the fact I have two very good friends who are card carrying Evergreen College Libtards in the highest degree. We have always gotten along and loved each other.

    Last night I tried discussing politics with the less wacko of the two. It did not go well.

    We cannot talk about anything remotely political.

    I hope we are still friends.

    ugh. This is not going to end well. A national divorce will not satisfy the intensity of the hatred on the left.

    Love to the Horde.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:08 AM (PkVlr)

    398 But first....
    Posted by: A seal at February 16, 2019 11:05 AM


    Seals ...

    who get blown ...

    Are the luckiest seals

    in the world ...

    Posted by: Babs at February 16, 2019 11:08 AM (DMUuz)

    399 Helloooo nurse!

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2019 11:08 AM (ywNoU)

    400 we can't talk politics in the house at all

    Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM (BJlbN)

    401

    I took up bass 'cause a friend asked me if I would. He had to pass up a
    gig 'cause neither of his b-players could make it. I play 6
    string....blues....12 and 8 bar, mostly.


    The blues is the foundation of American music and the very best intro to bass, IMHO. I'd recommend finding an inexpensive 4-string, there are some really good ones out there. As simple as the blues appears, there are infinite subtleties once you get further into it. More feel than anything else.
    Also, look up Adam Neely if you haven't already. He's a jazz bassist and a monster player and he talks more about music in general than just focusing on bass. Oh, and there's Rick Beato's channel. I found him because one of the cobs had a link to him in the sidebar a few months back. Great teacher. Have fun playing. I sure do.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM (HaL55)

    402 "Jussie Smollet has hired Michael Cohen's lawyer."



    Isn't Cohen going to jail for a few years? A lot of high profile lawyers seem to get more clients after failing.

    Posted by: lowandslow at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM (4thlk)

    403 though my stick work is coming along.
    Posted by: Insomniac


    that's a good thing

    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM (PkVlr)

    404 morning Insom!!!

    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:10 AM (PkVlr)

    405 Why are hard-core drinkers, proggie testifiers to Congress, and bassists alike?

    They all take the fifth!

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:11 AM (DMUuz)

    406
    Had a conversation with a 3rd year law student (all in for Kamala
    Harris) who did not know that Hitler was a Nazi; that Nazi is short for
    National Socialist German Workers Party; that the word nazi was
    originally used to insult the original Nazis who called themselves
    National Socialists; and that the original Nazis were Austrians and
    Germans.



    Tell them the SA were homos, and heads will explode, guaranteed.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 11:12 AM (oVJmc)

    407 that's a good thing
    Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM


    * borrowing from up thread *

    Is that a double entendre? Because it sure sounds like a double entendre?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:13 AM (DMUuz)

    408

    I have a cast-off beginner drum set that I'm trying to learn on. The
    whole arm-leg disconnect thing is kicking my ass, though my stick work
    is coming along.


    That's great, Insom. For some reason, that came naturally to me. I don't know of any good UToob channel for learning drums, but I'm sure there's a bunch of them. Hope you're using a metronome to practice with. Always use one. Plenty of good free ones for smartphones out there, too.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:13 AM (HaL55)

    409 Nood.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 16, 2019 11:14 AM (DMUuz)

    410 We cannot talk about anything remotely political.
    They refuse to believe anything that's not supporting their worldview. Read any Twitter thread about Jussie.

    Posted by: andycanuck at February 16, 2019 11:15 AM (Evws/)

    411
    Here's what I gather from the various blogs/Twitter peeps on the French protests. The city folks are fine with high taxes on motor fuels (they use diesel mainly). Sound familiar? So Macron jacked them up. The people outside of the cities were no longer making a profit on transporting goods to the cities, or operating their farm machinery, all the stuff reliant on fuels. So they jacked the prices up to compensate.

    The city folks didn't appreciate that. Macrons approval ratings reflect the dissatisfaction of both groups as he is down in the low 20's.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 11:15 AM (jYje5)

    412 I am concinced that the Gilets Jaunes movement is the consequence of a country that has no common identity.

    It is a melange of "diverse" groups who believe that stupid "beautiful mosaic" bullshit: "The more we a re different, the more we are the same."

    So, France doesn't know what it is and the rifts in society burst. Loyalty to the EU, immigration, Corsica independence, climate change cultism. All tearing France's national identity apart.

    We were like this after 8 years of Obama and Trump has brought us together by standing for something.

    Even if you oppose him, you believe in something and that's something.

    France will need to figure out who they are before this ends.

    Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2019 11:16 AM (ZxU8C)

    413 Either McCabe book is total fiction or there needs to be a whole lot of people locked up for attempting a government takeover, pick one.
    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 10:24 AM (/rm4P)


    The 'small group' McCabe was part of was joined at the hip with Team Hillary-Obama and, though the money was concealed through a series of cutouts, paid RUSSIANS to help bring down the duly elected (via Electoral College) President. They tried to frame the President as being in collusion with what they say is The Enemy, RUSSIA.

    Clear cut case of treason.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 16, 2019 11:16 AM (1g7ch)

    414 I know there's a nood, but I love that coffee cup. They can't take humor away.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2019 11:23 AM (Zo1XC)

    415 Nood?
    Crap.
    Bb, if you're still here, they should be beating down your doors for gigs with your experience.
    And keep your grabby hands off'n my drums. Especially my 69 Ludwig steel snare that I use with my Yamahas.

    I'll just not mention my 70's Zildjian ride, crashes and hi-hats,,, to be safe.

    I do hope I get to meet you someday.

    Posted by: teej at February 16, 2019 11:24 AM (/SHNS)

    416 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:09 AM (HaL55)

    I've been taking private lessons, taking a break now. For helping my buddy out, we keep it pretty simple. Play on the 1 and 3, sync w/the kick.

    Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2019 11:35 AM (cxHbL)

    417

    Same here, teej. Gotta go take care of B'Gal, so I'm bugging out.

    Take care.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2019 11:36 AM (HaL55)

    418 Happy Presidents Day Weekend! (WGH was da man!)

    Posted by: FireHorse at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (Lj7FZ)


    I appreciate that but you are making me bring up a pet peeve. In fact I can't guarantee I won't mention this a few times this weekend.

    Unless you live in one of the 26 states that celebrate "President's Day"*, there is not such thing as President's Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Federal Holiday is called George Washington's Birthday. And all the really cool states celebrate Washington, and a few add in Lincoln. My personal belief is that we should get off for Washington and Lincoln's birthdays. Of course this holiday is always on a Monday because people like themselves some three day weekends so it is not always celebrated on Washington's actual birthday. But that is nothing unusual, the MLK day is always on a Monday too.

    If you live in one of the states that does not take a day to celebrate Grover Cleveland and Bill Clinton, it is called George Washington's Birthday. Actually the nomenclature is not always consistent. In Virginia is is George Washington Day. Utah celebrates Washington and Lincoln Day. And most of the others go with a variant of George Washington's Birthday.

    It seems as if everyone now believes the holiday is President's Day. Again, the federal holiday is NOT called this, period. The car and bed salesmen have done their job. I don't think this is done by accident, no sir, it is by design. It is called subtraction by addition.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 12:29 PM (n13/j)

    419
    Regarding the slogan on that pictured coffee mug:

    "You missed the meeting."

    "No, I merely wasn't there."

    Posted by: a modest proposal at February 16, 2019 12:32 PM (hgEPl)

    420 386 And we slept in a sewer tunnel with the rats!
    Well, at least you didn't have to crawl to freedom through five hundred yards of shit-smelling foulness you can't even imagine, or maybe you just don't want to. Five hundred yards... that's the length of five football fields, just shy of half a mile.

    Posted by: Andy Dufresne at February 16, 2019 01:13 PM (IpZ/y)

    EMT 02/16/19

    Whither our Republic?

    Only one side of the ever-widening political divide thus far is willing to persecute the other for the most unremarkable of "offenses", with punishments ranging from social defenestration right through to taking away their opponent's means of providing for themselves and family, and all the way up to actual physical violence in the affirmation of their own golden calves.

    They take our patience and our forbearance for weakness and press their tyrant's advantage at every turn. Once, however, the walls are truly felt behind the backs of even the most defenseless of oppressed, a remarkable and grim resolve is generally found.

    Tyrants usually find an end that was impossible for them to foresee: An inexplicable result unaccounted for in the nihilistic actuarial tables of Marxist post-modernism.

    History books may airbrush out the Left's ubiquitous failures, thus enabling their fatal resurgences, but the lamp-posts remember how once they dangled their morbid ornaments.

    Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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    1 Good morning horde

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 05:56 AM (/rm4P)

    2 but the lamp-posts remember how once they dangled their morbid ornaments.

    It'll be like Christmas!

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 05:56 AM (8ikIW)

    3 Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, February 16, 2019. On this day in 1959 Fidel Castro became Premier (dictator) of Cuba after dictator Fulgencio Batista was overthrown on January 1. The US supported him until he revealed himself as a communist and a puppet of Soviet Russia.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

    4 Also on this date I was in the hospital due to complications from a drug I was taking to shrink my prostate. It didn't work and it had some annoying side effects, like causing you to become dizzy and falling down. I am much better today, but still having problems with prostate.


    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

    5 Kommie AOC's boyfriend has an e-mail account through her office. Supposedly this is a common practice in congress. If it is it should be stopped for everybody.


    https://tinyurl.com/y4zm73sf

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

    6 The Aurora shooter was an employee of that warehouse where he did the shooting and was about to be fired. So all he accomplished was killing 5 people and wounding a bunch of others. As for his job, he was still terminated, but in a different manner. But the gun grabbers will be out in force calling for universal background checks and other incremental useless crap on their way to gun confiscation. Odds are this turd passed background checks.


    https://tinyurl.com/y56u93cw

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

    7 And yes, the gun grabbers were out before the shooting was over being lead by old muley mouth first daughter Clinton.


    https://tinyurl.com/y46srtfk

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

    8 Kayleigh McEnany, the RNC spokesperson say Trump's emergency declaration was legal and the right thing to do. So why did all of those RINOs cross over and vote with the Democrats to pass the anti-funding bill with a veto proof majority?


    https://tinyurl.com/y6bmojxf

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

    9 So did PDT sign the funding resolution? I sawthat it was thought he was going to and that he had said he would, but I haven't seen anywhere that said he actually signed it. I did see it written that he had declared the national emergency.

    Posted by: sawhorse at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (ARGoY)

    10
    Of course Peelousy and Shitty Schumer are in a maelstrom of fake concern about his ruling.


    https://tinyurl.com/y2eyb6vx

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

    11 And Kommiefornia will find an Obama judge from HI and sue.


    https://tinyurl.com/y5sc7bs6

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

    12 And Big Hair Mad Maxine calls for riots across the country. Of course she calls them protests to skirt the law. When the riots occur she too should be arrested.


    https://tinyurl.com/y42dvm2n

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

    13 DHS says critics of the immigration bill are reading the statement about not deporting illegals with sponsors incorrectly. It is not a mass amnesty. I don't read it that way and I am sure a slick lawyer will not either.


    https://tinyurl.com/y6xmc8hw

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

    14 "They take our patience and our forbearance for weakness.."

    Hmm. Not sure about that formulation. We may be speaking here about actual weakness.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (H8QX8)

    15 Picture of a dead rat next to an empty scotch bottle in NYC goes viral. Don't people realize this is a staged photo?


    https://tinyurl.com/y3kw2v72

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

    16 It may be time to make escape plans!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (JFO2v)

    17

    And speaking of viral, how about this idiocy, a 320 sf 'home' near Portsmouth, NH on a .3 acre lot has gone on the market for $2M.


    https://tinyurl.com/y5mpfmnh

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

    18 Protesters funded by George Sorryness hit Trump Tower one more time. I have to ask since these people were arrested, why is Soros not being charged as an accessory?


    https://tinyurl.com/y5aanok5

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

    19 From the ONT
    dailytimewaster.blogspot. Sandy O-C' s boyfriend
    http://tinyurl.com/y52qo422
    I thought for sure it wouldn't be a guy from the unprotected class.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (/rm4P)

    20 Democrats in Congress are hoping to remove 'gendered language' from the U.S. tax code to make it more palatable for the gay lobby


    This is idiotic, but that is normal for Democrats. How many people out their actually read the tax code? Maybe the tax lawyers do and that is only an extremely tiny fraction of the population. And then, how many of them are gay? This is pure pandering to their base.


    https://tinyurl.com/y25o6y9z

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

    21 Good Morning

    Posted by: wing at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (JFzNN)

    22 Students SJWs at George Washington University are demanding the school change its mascot, the 'Colonials,' arguing the nickname may discourage students, due to not being inclusive. Students assholes suggest changing the mascot to a hippo or riverhorse instead.


    I suggest you take those river horses and hippos and shove them up your commie asses.


    https://tinyurl.com/y6n6vdqo

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

    23 SF communists are not satisfied with all the gun grabbing efforts in Kommiefornia. They now want to ban gun shows at the Cow Palace too.


    https://tinyurl.com/y5otze52

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

    24 Mad Dog Mueller wants Manafort to go to prison for 24 years for being caught in a perjury trap. Excuse me asshole, the penalty for perjury is 5 yrs and/or $5,000. which asshole did you pull this 24 years from?


    https://tinyurl.com/y2opz4qu

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

    25
    Ramirez


    https://tinyurl.com/y5wudlp3



    And that's it for today.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

    26 hiya

    Posted by: JT at February 16, 2019 06:02 AM (nubzz)

    27 12 And Big Hair Mad Maxine calls for riots across the country. Of course she calls them protests to skirt the law. When the riots occur she too should be arrested.


    https://tinyurl.com/y42dvm2n
    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

    They usually burn down their own neighborhoods! Have at it I say. Fergadishu!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:03 AM (JFO2v)

    28 17 there has to be 6 floors below ground, or a sucker born every minute.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:03 AM (/rm4P)

    29 9
    So did PDT sign the funding resolution? I sawthat it was thought he was
    going to and that he had said he would, but I haven't seen anywhere that
    said he actually signed it. I did see it written that he had declared
    the national emergency.


    Posted by: sawhorse at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (ARGoY)


    I didn't matter if he signed it or not, the RINOs crossed over and made it a automatic approval..

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

    30 So did PDT sign the funding resolution? I sawthat it was thought he was going to and that he had said he would, but I haven't seen anywhere that said he actually signed it. I did see it written that he had declared the national emergency.
    Posted by: sawhorse at February 16, 2019 05:59 AM (ARGoY)

    I don't know either. Maybe they are using the entire Holiday weekend to draft a bunch of signing statements to go along with the Bill.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:06 AM (Xqo6t)

    31 20 Democrats in Congress are hoping to remove 'gendered language' from the U.S. tax code to make it more palatable for the gay lobby

    VIC

    Tax code is stupid. Subsidising houses and children. Everyone should pay their own way.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:07 AM (JFO2v)

    32 This is why I'm not in the word business. Next level shiznit. I want only for my children to not fret for theirs; it is akin

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 06:08 AM (qZFwg)

    33 I don't know either. Maybe they are using the entire Holiday weekend to draft a bunch of signing statements to go along with the Bill.
    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:06 AM (Xqo6t)

    Signing statements do nothing! It is like leaving the waitress a bad tip because you are made at your wife.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:08 AM (JFO2v)

    34 And it is raining and cold here. No porch rocker for me.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

    35 Cow Palace? I thought they had dropped that name long ago. AOC should demand a change. Something green, gun shows will not have a future in the good old USA.

    Posted by: Colin at February 16, 2019 06:10 AM (cprq8)

    36
    Good morning, Hordians.

    Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2019 06:10 AM (LsBY9)

    37 Boker tov horde.

    Krak is loquacious this morning. And succinct.

    Well said.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 16, 2019 06:13 AM (EZebt)

    38 Grim prose to start the day.

    Posted by: fluffy at February 16, 2019 06:14 AM (akaEu)

    39 but the lamp-posts remember how once they dangled their morbid ornaments.

    It'll be like Christmas!
    Posted by: Bruce

    And the meathooks want to play

    Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2019 06:14 AM (25Dt7)

    40 I like my mornings grim.

    Bodes well for rest o day.

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 06:15 AM (qZFwg)

    41 https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/02
    /professional-war-peddlers-still-around/

    I guess the writer of this article could not spell cocksucker!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:20 AM (JFO2v)

    42 23 SF communists are not satisfied with all the gun grabbing efforts in Kommiefornia. They now want to ban gun shows at the Cow Palace too.


    https://tinyurl.com/y5otze52
    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

    ===

    They gave been trying that for years, and their persistence will pay off eventually.

    WZ's report on referred to former state senator Leland Yee's efforts on this without mentioning he is now doing hard time for gun running.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 16, 2019 06:20 AM (EZebt)

    43 In Florida we are looking forward to Daytona on Sunday. Weather this weekend will be picture perfect.

    Posted by: Uncle Si at February 16, 2019 06:21 AM (F7vOh)

    44 Honestly. With debt on a trend,

    In 20 years, with debt at 50 $T will u not sell your organs for your grandchildren?

    Why not?
    if you don't need them?
    What if you aren't allowed to direct the funds.

    What would you do now with those organs?

    Does this end in a happier place or is sacrifice required?

    Yum. Coffee

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 06:21 AM (qZFwg)

    45 How does gum work?

    Posted by: AOC's deepest thoughts at February 16, 2019 06:24 AM (8Fk0r)

    46 Organs from babies bring a much better price on the market.

    Posted by: Colin at February 16, 2019 06:25 AM (cprq8)

    47 They, the left, are making no mistake about weakness. The GOP and most conservatives are in actual terror of violating speech codes and challenging them on anything.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:26 AM (U7k5w)

    48 Basically the Trump Presidency is effectively over, he will do what he can given the current political situation, which is a hell of lot more than any Conservative has done since Reagan but what he will do will be at the margins and be completley undone by the next Donk President.

    Now this is not to say he can't win re-election but which given the insanity of the Donk side is likely but him being able to affect deep meaningful change is not likely.


    The GOP has effectively wasted a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    Sad.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:26 AM (NtvvM)

    49 Organs from babies bring a much better price on the market.
    Posted by: Colin

    Organs from the elders will be made into a hearty stew for the camps

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 06:27 AM (8ikIW)

    50 You don't want any of my organs. They have been used hard.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 16, 2019 06:27 AM (EZebt)

    51 It was interesting to watch the female Aurora Police Chief during her interview.

    Three ornaments in one ear, and 'sending Positive thoughts ' to the victims.

    Am I upset that the Chief is female?
    No.

    But the whole package is 'off'.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:27 AM (cqNba)

    52 Oh...and,

    G'morning, all.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:28 AM (cqNba)

    53 "The GOP has effectively wasted a once in a lifetime opportunity."

    One would almost have to believe it was deliberate.

    Posted by: doomed at February 16, 2019 06:28 AM (8Fk0r)

    54 The GOP has effectively wasted a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    Sad.
    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:26 AM (NtvvM)

    They wanted to! Look at Jeb!@# or Lil Marco. Weak sisters that would bow to cucktocracy. The GOP would sell your mom and sister to the the devil to get 10 bucks a month off their lawn service or a roof put on faster by hiring 3 more illegals.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:30 AM (JFO2v)

    55 It's all over!! The Trump Presidency is finished!! Watch me change my nic daily or hourly so you can be demoralized, give up any support of Trump and we Soros trolls can win!!!!

    Posted by: Daily deluge of doooom, despair and dopiness at February 16, 2019 06:31 AM (AllCR)

    56 Tiny urls don't always work using my tablets 'web search' option, and if not I copy paste them. But for first time using 'web search' it came up it came up something like
    EMT posted by Vic 32 minutes ago.....

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:32 AM (/rm4P)

    57 Trolls must be getting paid more, here a 6 am.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:32 AM (mpXpK)

    58 Raining and cold here this morning.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:33 AM (mpXpK)

    59 54: Absolutely the case. It was easy to sell out American manufavt
    manufacturing workers with outsourcing, and now we can do it for services as well. We, as a nation, see only the immediate benefit of lower prices and ignore the tax consequences and cost in misery for our displaced countrymen whose livings are destroyed

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:35 AM (U7k5w)

    60

    AMEN KRAKATOA



    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:36 AM (Z2PYk)

    61 Morons I have been continuing to convert my 35mm slides to jpegs. I have a bunch now from Comifornia and from onboard the Big Pig. I'll have to see if JJ still has the same internet address and I'll send a couple of me on the Pig at sea.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

    62 @53
    It was.

    I recall Trumps first act upon taking office was to deliver a balanced budget to congress that basically contained everything so-called conservatives were agitating for for decades..

    Balanced budget, ended subs for PP, The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, ended funding for NPR, Defunded Obamacare and on and on...

    The GOP's reaction?

    They told Trump his budget was DOA and go pound sand.

    That right there was the first tell...

    The subsequent tells were they kept passing CR's even when that puke Paul Ryan swore up and down that they would go to regular order and pass a real honest to goodness budget which turned out to be a lie.

    Their is no future for or in the GOP, it is an illegitimate political party of charlatans and grifters much like the Conservative movement as a whole.

    We seriously need to find an alternative because we are being consumed and our substance is being hollowed out by a cadre of evil forces that seek to finish the fundamental transformation that Obama started.


    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:37 AM (NtvvM)

    63 As to Vicks link to the Daily Mail and Sloppy Choppers and Chucky when you want as many illegal immigrants here thaf can possibly get here not having a wall isn't a crisis. And as Dan Crenshaw tweeted out Beto and Gillibrand would take some that are up down.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:37 AM (/rm4P)

    64 Thanks for your input, new guys.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 06:39 AM (oVJmc)

    65 59
    54: Absolutely the case. It was easy to sell out American manufavt

    manufacturing workers with outsourcing, and now we can do it for
    services as well. We, as a nation, see only the immediate benefit of
    lower prices and ignore the tax consequences and cost in misery for our
    displaced countrymen whose livings are destroyed

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:35 AM (U7k5w)

    How can American workers be out placed when 70% of these illegal SOBs go immediately on welfare?

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:39 AM (mpXpK)

    66

    I have been studiously looking for the silver lining in current events (greatly disheartened that our champion SIGNED that f''-ing piece of excrement called a budget).

    Ironically, I find genuine comfort in your grim historical perspective.

    I sincerely hope it doesn't come to it, but seriously rough times may be ahead in order to cast down leftist tyranny.






    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:39 AM (Z2PYk)

    67
    Their is no future for or in the GOP, it is an illegitimate political party of charlatans and grifters much like the Conservative movement as a whole.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:37 AM


    Here's your alternative:
    The Democrat Platform:
    No new jobs
    Unrestricted immigration
    Empty the prisons
    Higher taxes
    No plane travel
    Unrestricted abortion
    Infanticide
    No meat or dairy, vegan only
    No DUI's for immigrants
    Grab the guns
    Wealth redistribution
    Reparations
    Replace functioning electric grid with one which hardly functions
    Encouragement of homosexuality and gender confusion
    Medicare for all
    Free speech restrictions
    Free college (community college, anyway)

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 06:40 AM (jYje5)

    68 Only argument I might agree with over this emergency executive order is the one Never interrupt your enemies while their making a mistake, and the Socalists have been on a roll lately.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:41 AM (/rm4P)

    69

    Hey has anyone else noticed that "tyranny" and "tranny" are apropos anagrams?



    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:41 AM (Z2PYk)

    70 66


    I have been studiously looking for the silver lining in current
    events (greatly disheartened that our champion SIGNED that f''-ing piece
    of excrement called a budget).

    Ironically, I find genuine comfort in your grim historical perspective.

    I sincerely hope it doesn't come to it, but seriously rough times may be ahead in order to cast down leftist tyranny.








    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:39 AM (Z2PYk)

    Have you not read the items saying that it was veto proof? It would go into effect whether he signed it or not.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:41 AM (mpXpK)

    71
    Trolls must be getting paid more, here a 6 am.

    Posted by: Vic


    lots of new nics in the past 12 hours

    curious...

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 06:41 AM (KCxzN)

    72 A question.

    Do sanctuary cities and counties statistically track crimes committed by illegal immigrants?

    If not...how can one offer data to prove that they commit crimes at a lower rate than native born, and legal immigrants?

    And what is the effect on crime stats when illegal immigrants have their charges reduced in order to prevent deportation due to the conviction for a serious crime?

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (cqNba)

    73 Maybe Amazon woke up and saw the NYS tax forms. I live upstate and see that in the NYC area, all kind of taxes which I don't pay. NY City and Yonkers income tax, transit tax, and others taxes...wow.Of course Amazon is probably used to all those taxes. If you do business in NYC and surrounding areas, they get you up the wazoo.

    Posted by: Colin at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (cprq8)

    74 62: Ryan and most of the GOP are frauds, they campaigned for years on their alleged positions and inability to really do the things they promised. When given the opportunity to actually do what they'd been promising, they showed their true colors and refused to act.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (U7k5w)

    75
    How the Chicoms dealt with their SJWs once they were no longer useful:



    "From 1962 to 1979, 16 to 18 million youth were sent to the countryside to undergo re-education.
    Sending city students to the countryside was also used to defuse the student fanaticism set in motion by the Red Guards. On December 22, 1968, Chairman Mao directed the People's Daily to publish a piece entitled "We too have two hands, let us not laze about in the city", which quoted Mao as saying "The intellectual youth must go to the country, and will be educated from living in rural poverty." In 1969 many youth were rusticated.Many students could not deal with the harsh life and died in the process of reeducation."

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (oVJmc)

    76 72
    A question.



    Do sanctuary cities and counties statistically track crimes committed by illegal immigrants?



    If not...how can one offer data to prove that they commit crimes at a lower rate than native born, and legal immigrants?



    And what is the effect on crime stats when illegal immigrants have
    their charges reduced in order to prevent deportation due to the
    conviction for a serious crime?

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (cqNba)

    Crime stats from big cities have always been watered down, whether illegals or not.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:43 AM (mpXpK)

    77
    Vic @ roughly comment 70,

    No, I had not read that.
    As I said, I became disheartened by the whole damn thing.


    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:43 AM (Z2PYk)

    78
    Anyone 'concerned' about the Spending Bill, please watch this clip where this guy (Twitter User: @JohnWickOfPolitics) explains how the worries about 224, wall restrictions, etc. are bullshit. (He says they're more about getting hard-left dems to swallow the $1.37B for the Wall, in reality.)

    https://tinyurl.com/y4c5pprv

    I suggest skipping the first 6 minutes where he goes over his credentials.

    (Clickable Link in signature)

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:44 AM (Xqo6t)

    79 Trump's most valuable service has been the dropping of all the masks. Now, some just refuse to see the GOP for who they are - and they never will, that's just how some people are - but that ain't on Trump.

    If that's "demoralizing", so be it. But I'd rather know the truth. I've never appreciated someone pissing down my back and telling me its raining.

    Being force-fed a shit sandwich while declaring "Ooh, peanut butter" ain't optimism. It's delusional.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 06:44 AM (Pk8DL)

    80 35 Cow Palace? I thought they had dropped that name long ago. AOC should demand a change. Something green, gun shows will not have a future in the good old USA.
    Posted by: Colin at February 16, 2019 06:10 AM (cprq


    The Soy Palace, obviously.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 06:44 AM (sdi6R)

    81 * correction, no link in sig *

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:44 AM (Xqo6t)

    82 Many students could not deal with the harsh life and died in the process of reeducation."
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 06:42 AM (oVJmc)

    Feature not bug!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 06:44 AM (JFO2v)

    83 @67
    And what exactly is the GOP offering as an alternative??
    Open Borders.Unlimited H1B's.Globalism.Permanent Tax Cuts for Corporations.Temporary Tax Cuts for individuals.ObamaCare Light.Endless Wars in Foreign Shit Holes.Defecits and debt as far as the eye can see.
    Fun Fact:
    The GOP has controlled the House, ie the power of the purse, for 18 of the last 22 years, in that time the debt has gone from just over 4 trillion to over 22 trillion.


    So, no, the GOP's program is not a palatable alternative to the insanity of the Donks.

    We need a new party and we need it now.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:45 AM (NtvvM)

    84
    Vic, help me out.
    Are you saying that had Trump vetoed that horrible crap-bill that it wouldn't have required for the Congress to then cast a two-thirds majority vote in order to override his veto?

    Really???


    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:46 AM (Z2PYk)

    85

    Find that a bit hard to believe.

    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:46 AM (Z2PYk)

    86 Article on how immigration status is considered during arrests and changing in a sanctuary city.

    https://outline.com/FsfAft

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:46 AM (cqNba)

    87
    When the president of the United States (POTUS) uses a presidential veto, it doesn't necessarily mean that the bill won't become a law. The US Constitution gives Congress a means to sign a bill into law after a presidential veto has occurred. In order to overturn a presidential veto, both houses in Congress must vote to approve the bill by a two-thirds majority. In cases where a majority votes does not occur, bipartisanship - the act of finding common ground via compromise - can help override the veto by gaining a majority vote. Other alternatives include declaring a law as unconstitutional or ruling against same party affiliation.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 06:47 AM (jYje5)

    88 84

    Vic, help me out.
    Are you saying that had Trump vetoed that
    horrible crap-bill that it wouldn't have required for the Congress to
    then cast a two-thirds majority vote in order to override his veto?

    Really???




    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:46 AM (Z2PYk)

    It had a 2/3 majority when passed. As I said yesterday that is veto proof. I didn't research top see if it had to go back and be revoted but I think it did not.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:48 AM (mpXpK)

    89 Cold Civil Way, watch that clip. Tell me what you think.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:48 AM (Xqo6t)

    90 IOW the RNCe sold us out once again.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:48 AM (mpXpK)

    91 Vic, watch the Clip. The RNC did nothing of the sort. 224, etc. is bullshit to get Dems to pass bill.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:49 AM (Xqo6t)

    92 Stoner Kamel-toe send some poor sap up to San Quentin for a nickel bag, then partys all night listening to Snoop.

    Hypocrite.

    Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2019 06:49 AM (14qvS)

    93 It had a 2/3 majority when passed. As I said yesterday that is veto proof. I didn't research top see if it had to go back and be revoted but I think it did not.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:48 AM (mpXpK)


    Pretty sure it would have to go back.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 06:50 AM (Pk8DL)

    94 Vic @ 88

    Okay, well, I didn't know that.

    But then it seems like Trump could have cast a "free" veto since it wouldn't have resulted in a government shutdown.

    We - his supporters - would have definitely appreciated that.

    Why sign it?


    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:50 AM (Z2PYk)

    95 @94
    Yeah, I don't get signing this POS at all.
    Make the Congress own this crap.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (NtvvM)

    96 91
    Vic, watch the Clip. The RNC did nothing of the sort. 224, etc. is bullshit to get Dems to pass bill.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:49 AM (Xqo6t)

    I don't understand what you are saying. what is "224"? Fox reported when it passed that it was "veto proof" meaning that it had a 2/3 majority votes already. I posted that link yesterday.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (mpXpK)

    97 So, no, the GOP's program is not a palatable alternative to the insanity of the Donks.-----------------
    So does the GOP think the Constitution is garbage and the Founder's were nothings? Many of us support the GOP because we see what the left has become and what they want to do to this country. We don't think blowing up the only group still trying to hold on is a good idea at this point. Sure the GOP shat the bed in the first two years of this administration. But what good would another party do at this point? Eighty percent of GOP reps are on board with conservatism, maybe ninety percent are. What would abandoning them accomplish other than a name change?

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (n13/j)

    98
    Cat, I didn't see the link.

    Please re-post it.

    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (Z2PYk)

    99
    Vic - Search for:

    How does Congress Override a Presidential Veto?

    The initial vote only gives an indication of the odds of it being veto-proof. It does NOT make it veto-proof. If Trump does not sign it it becomes law within a certain number of days.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 06:53 AM (jYje5)

    100 65: Where I live they usually face it both ways, welfare and off the books work for builders, landscapers, and restaurants. Fake SS numbers help too, the guy works a maintenance job that requires no English and the little pepitos and their mommy get benefits. It's a great system for them to exploit. The hospital system I work for ( 2 more weeks till retirement] was recently acquired by another system and purged its ineligible workers due to the oversight with came with the merger, miraculously we have housekeeping, maintenance and food service people who speak English again. When the govt oversight vanishes, I'm sure they'll once again terminate Americans and green card holders and go illegal

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:53 AM (U7k5w)

    101
    Nic @ 99,

    What about the "Pocket Veto"?

    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (Z2PYk)

    102 The way I understand it, a bill is passed, and if the President vetoes it, Congress can vote to override the veto. A "veto-proof majority" doesn't mean the President can't veto it or that his veto doesn't count. It just means that Congress can easily override the veto.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (sdi6R)

    103 97 So does the GOP think the Constitution is garbage
    and the Founder's were nothings? Many of us support the GOP because we
    see what the left has become and what they want to do to this country.
    We don't think blowing up the only group still trying to hold on is a
    good idea at this point. Sure the GOP shat the bed in the first two
    years of this administration. But what good would another party do at
    this point? Eighty percent of GOP reps are on board with conservatism,
    maybe ninety percent are. What would abandoning them accomplish other
    than a name change?


    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (n13/j)

    I think a more accurate way to word it is "we support the GOP as the lesser of two evils". And I am tired of that.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

    104 I an R would would vote to override his own president's veto, then that guy needs to get primaried but good.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (n13/j)

    105 93: They would have to formally override the veto

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 06:55 AM (U7k5w)

    106 Vic, watch the Clip. The RNC did nothing of the sort. 224, etc. is bullshit to get Dems to pass bill.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:49 AM (Xqo6t)

    I don't understand what you are saying. what is "224"? Fox reported when it passed that it was "veto proof" meaning that it had a 2/3 majority votes already. I posted that link yesterday.
    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (mpXpK)

    Sorry, 224 is the section in the Bill people are claiming is a "Amnesty". Just take some time to watch this clip, I can't vouch for guys reputation, but I'm persuaded he knows what he's talking about and was a big relief.

    https://tinyurl.com/y4c5pprv

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:55 AM (Xqo6t)

    107 101

    Nic @ 99,

    What about the "Pocket Veto"?


    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (Z2PYk)

    The "pocket veto" simply holding it until it expires. But if there is already a 2/3 vote in both Houses it does not work.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:56 AM (mpXpK)

    108 Eighty percent of GOP reps are on board with conservatism, maybe ninety percent are.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (n13/j)


    Didn't look like that to me this week.

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 06:56 AM (Pk8DL)

    109 104
    I an R would would vote to override his own president's veto, then that guy needs to get primaried but good.


    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (n13/j)

    Gee, hven't we been saying that for the majority of the RNCe since 1998?

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

    110 Probably he shouldn't have signed it, let Congress eat the bill.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 06:58 AM (/rm4P)

    111
    Fox can say the vote was by a 'veto-proof' majority, but that does NOT mean it's veto-proof. You have to parse the words slowly and carefully.

    'Veto-proof majority' is the hang up you're having.

    If the members all voted the second time around the same way, which there is no guarantee of, then the veto would not stand. 'Veto-proof majority' in the first vote prior to veto does not make it veto proof. It's only an indication of support.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 06:58 AM (jYje5)

    112
    Thanks Vic.

    I've got to head to bed.

    Big thanks to Krakatoa for a deeply appreciated philosophical and historical perspective on the likely grim fate of leftist totalitarianism.

    Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (Z2PYk)

    113 @97
    You and I support the GOP because there is no alternative to the GOP.

    They are not advancing any meaningful agenda.

    In the last two years of total control all they managed to do is pass temporary tax cuts and that's it.

    Trump has nominated solid conservatives and yes McConnell got them through but as we have seen, the courts as a whole are too far gone for the paltry few conservatives that have been confirmed to be of any utility.

    A district judge can stymie a President and by the time it gets to the SCOTUS the damage has already been done.
    And even when the SCOTUS does side with administration the rulings are so narrowly tailored as to be meaningless.

    And don't get me started with the abomination that is our LE and IC apparatus.

    We are in serious jeopardy of losing it all, and very soon.

    We need more people to understand this not make excuses for the GOP.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (NtvvM)

    114 I think a more accurate way to word it is "we support the GOP as the lesser of two evils". And I am tired of that.


    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

    I am tired of it too because people like McCain, Flake, and the chick from Alaska screwed their own team over more than once. I am tired of guys like Ryan who are really not worth a hell of a lot, including in presidential races. But I don't see how a new party at this point will do anything other than ensure a socialist takeover.
    We need to get rid of the RINO's and put in Dan Crenshaw types. Third parties don't win elections. Hell, I like some libertarian positions, but the Libertarian party is a not even a sideshow. They are basically nothing. And there is the Constitution Party, they are more staid and traditional than the Libertarians. They are even less relevant if that is possible.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (n13/j)

    115 106 Sorry, 224 is the section in the Bill people are
    claiming is a "Amnesty". Just take some time to watch this clip, I
    can't vouch for guys reputation, but I'm persuaded he knows what he's
    talking about and was a big relief.



    https://tinyurl.com/y4c5pprv





    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 06:55 AM (Xqo6t)

    Sorry can't watch clips w/o much work on my internet program. And if it is a Fox clip can't watch it at all no matter what I do.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (mpXpK)

    116 If the Mueller investigation does not totally end within the next six months, even the most die-hard "there's no Deep State" person will have to realize the country is controlled by and for the UniParty/Deep State.


    If Mueller is such a "stand-up, straight-shooter fellow," as we were told by everyone when he was appointed, how can he justify taking nearly two years (so far) to investigate something with a small, finite number of US "suspects," and with all the FBI and NSA data for those suspects in his possession? And how can he justify spending more and more taxpayer dollars to continue hounding Trump associates for only process crimes, not collusion or obstruction of justice?


    To me the only reason Mueller will continue much longer is to continue to protect the Deep State's plot against Trump: By delaying the day when all the evidence against them has to be kept from the public due to Mueller's "ongoing investigation."

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:00 AM (AMIL/)

    117 104: They would not want to, but then their cheap labor loving donors would scream. If were serious about illegals we have to prosecute those who abet this; employers who hire them and govt workers who put them on the welfare rules as well as nonprofits (heavily govt subsidized) who provide legal services to help them stay. When no one will make everify mandatory, they will not prosecute Americans who flout the laws

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:00 AM (U7k5w)

    118 We need to get rid of the RINO's and put in Dan Crenshaw types.
    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (n13/j)


    And how many times, lately, have we seen the GOP torpedo thise types in the primary in favor of their establishment guys ?

    Posted by: Steve Borden at February 16, 2019 07:02 AM (Pk8DL)

    119 This was dead easy for Trump (and I still support him regardless), after the 5 weeks of negotiations when they brought him this resolution he should have thrown in it the garbage on live TV. Just tell them, if you want to override, go for it, otherwise bring me a clean funding bill to keep the doors open and I'll do what I have to do. Expose both sides for who they are.

    Posted by: rammajamma at February 16, 2019 07:02 AM (xceTB)

    120 114 But I don't see how a new party at this point will do anything other than ensure a socialist takeover.
    We
    need to get rid of the RINO's and put in Dan Crenshaw types. Third
    parties don't win elections. Hell, I like some libertarian positions,
    but the Libertarian party is a not even a sideshow. They are basically
    nothing. And there is the Constitution Party, they are more staid and
    traditional than the Libertarians. They are even less relevant if that
    is possible.


    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:59 AM (n13/j)


    The Libertarian Party has been taken over by the dopers. They are now useless.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 07:02 AM (mpXpK)

    121 97
    Eighty percent of GOP reps are on board with conservatism, maybe ninety percent are.
    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 06:52 AM (n13/j)


    With all due respect, I think you have your percentages reversed. My own congressman, Brian Fitzpatrick, is the wishiest of the washiest. He's all about reaching across the aisle.

    At this point the Democrats are full-on Communist revolutionaries, and most Republicans are just standing there like deer in the headlights hoping to be shot last.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:02 AM (sdi6R)

    122 108: we have a mere handful of honest people in Congress, most of those are donks who honestly want to undermine the country.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:03 AM (U7k5w)

    123 this is an old pic on a new story!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/us/politics/ruth-ginsburg-supreme-court.html

    I found same pic from 2016
    European University Institute
    Published on Feb 3, 2016

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:03 AM (JFO2v)

    124 Do you want to read something insanely moronic then read this; "Students stir an online uproar at protest".
    It's an opinion about the Covington 'incident' and dated 19 februari 2019!!!
    Some quotes;
    "There was also a protest held by Native American and Hebrew Israelite activists on the same day at the same location.
    Videos and photos portray the students as hateful towards the culture of the other two groups."
    ...
    "Even with videos and interviews, it is difficult to tell exactly what happened if one was not physically present. As students, but also members of a society which encourages free thinking, we should take all sides of a situation into consideration and make educated accusations."
    And then she goes on;
    "It is not difficult to see a group of young, white, MAGA supporters and be able to understand their intentions in this situation. Their intent was to be disrespectful when coming face to face with people who were protesting ages of Native American suffering."

    So it's difficult to tell what happened but that wont stop her from condemning the kids because, it seems, they were white and some wore MAGA hats. And this racist piece of crap will join the 'intellectual class'.

    Whither the Republic (and whither the West since I'm not American but this kind of thing is all over the place)? Nothing were I want to be, that's for sure.


    Posted by: PhilD at February 16, 2019 07:03 AM (31IKG)

    125 "....section 224 cannot make law, it cannot supersede the immigration laws on the books..."

    Cold Civil War

    https://tinyurl.com/y4c5pprv
    ^^^
    Link.

    Posted by: Serious Cat at February 16, 2019 07:03 AM (Xqo6t)

    126 121: Reaching across the aisle usually translates as capitulating for financial benefits

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:04 AM (U7k5w)

    127 Sincd "a href ..." didn't seem to work the link is:
    "https://thebakerorange.com/29360/opinion/students-stir-an-online-uproar-at-protest/"

    Posted by: PhilD at February 16, 2019 07:04 AM (31IKG)

    128 @116
    It was clear to Mueller within six months of being appointed that there was no substance to the collusion, obstruction or any of the other nonsense that was contrived and leveled at Trump.

    But Mueller's role was not to find the truth and dispense justice but to stymie any meaningful investigation of the real criminals in the Obama administration, Hillary World, the IC and LE apparatuses and a whole host of criminals and bad actors.

    This was all aided an abetted by Jeff Sessions and the GOP.

    And Mueller leaves six months after Trump leaves whenever that is, not before.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 07:04 AM (NtvvM)

    129 Got to cut out for now Morons. Time for my weekly call from brother in GA.

    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 07:05 AM (mpXpK)

    130 Section 224 is what I tell you it is. I have the power. I decide the rules.

    Posted by: Federal Judge at February 16, 2019 07:05 AM (Pk8DL)

    131 128 @116
    It was clear to Mueller within six months of being appointed that there was no substance to the collusion, obstruction or any of the other nonsense that was contrived and leveled at Trump.

    He was told by Ohr the dossier was fake before he took the job.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:05 AM (JFO2v)

    132 Reaching across the aisle never a good idea when one side has the plague.

    Posted by: rammajamma at February 16, 2019 07:06 AM (xceTB)

    133 Krakatoa...A Fcuking Amen.

    Perfectly said this morning.

    Thank you.

    Posted by: Voter theater. at February 16, 2019 07:08 AM (6LYfC)

    134 128: Mueller is there to do oppo research with the weight of the DOJ behind him. If the DOJ gave a shit about collusion, Hillary, Obama and Podesta would be the targets. Collusion brings money to greedy pols, it won't he stopped.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:08 AM (U7k5w)

    135 128: Sessions is totally dishonest, not sure Barr will be better

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (U7k5w)

    136 Well, this sucks.

    Bruno Ganz has died.

    Possibly the best portrayal of Hitler ever filmed.

    https://tinyurl.com/y469o2rp

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (cqNba)

    137 Morning, fellow morons!

    Don't let the wall nonsense get you down. This is divided government. It is what it is.

    We are in a long war and that means we will lose from time to time. I know this joint is Pessimist Central and we regularly have to lock up the knives and unload the guns around Ace, but the fact of the matter is the president DID get funding that a month ago we were told would never happen.

    Yeah, it came with strings. That doesn't mean we have to flip out like a tween girl who got snubbed at the Valentine's Dance.

    It's a complicated business, folks. Lots of stuff going on.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:10 AM (cfSRQ)

    138 Bruno Ganz has died.


    Steiner will come.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 07:10 AM (oVJmc)

    139 Maxine calling for riots, Mueller unbounded, the RBG charade, the Dems with that 1917 look about them - these are indeed times that try men's souls.

    Posted by: rammajamma at February 16, 2019 07:10 AM (xceTB)

    140 I want to link an outstanding comment I saw last night at Karl Denninger's Market Ticker. Hopefully the link goes to the specific comment, but if not, look for Eleua at 2019-02-15 20:25:25.

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3468209

    Read the whole thing. There's too much there to excerpt.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:13 AM (sdi6R)

    141 And Mueller leaves six months after Trump leaves whenever that is, not before.

    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 07:04 AM (NtvvM)


    I believe you are right. I believe the Dem House members plan to use Mueller's team and its Grand Jury subpoena power for the next two years. I soon expect a letter from Nadler and Schiff to new Atty General Barr, demanding (in polite terms) that Mueller and his team be kept together and available while the several House committees perform their "oversight" investigations. And those investigations will continue through the 2020 election. If Barr refuses: Accusations of obstruction of justice.


    OK, enough conspiracy theorizing for now - have a good day everyone!

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:14 AM (AMIL/)

    142 Sessions is totally dishonest, not sure Barr will be better

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (U7k5w)

    ---
    I'm not so sure. A lot of stuff has come out regarding Mueller and Handy Andy didn't do himself any favors on 60 Minutes.

    I think Trump was playing for time in dealing with this whole thing. Before he could try to get at the coup plotters he had to ensure that there were enough non-corrupt officials in the DoJ that they wouldn't botch the prosecution on purpose. He might finally be at that point.

    The way the FBI handled Kavanaugh shows that there might be at least a few sectors of the bureaucracy that can be trusted.


    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:16 AM (cfSRQ)

    143 116 I have been under the assumption Mueller was just keeping the research open until needed by the Democrats.
    Would have loved to be on one of the grand jury of his cases like Manafort or Stone.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:16 AM (/rm4P)

    144 "Read the whole thing. There's too much there to excerpt."

    Good read.

    I can't say that the writer is wrong, either.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:16 AM (cqNba)

    145 Bruno Ganz has died.

    Possibly the best portrayal of Hitler ever filmed.


    Definitely. RIP.


    Not to be flippant, but he will live on forever in internet memes.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:17 AM (sdi6R)

    146 Maxine and Nancy are well protected, so any riots in SF will not bother them in the least. Sort like the king in his castle before gun powder was used. But once gun powder was introduced, they lost a lot of their protection, I hope the same happens in SF. (probably not)

    Posted by: Colin at February 16, 2019 07:18 AM (cprq8)

    147 Commenting as fast as I can..................Ruthie.

    Posted by: saf at February 16, 2019 07:21 AM (5IHGB)

    148 In a
    2007 Government Accountability Office study of 55,322 illegal aliens,
    analysts discovered that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614
    times, averaging about eight arrests per illegal alien

    https://bit.ly/2GL6NrF

    Posted by: Moron Robbie, Abridged Version at February 16, 2019 07:22 AM (LX21o)

    149 142 Sessions is totally dishonest, not sure Barr will be better

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (U7k5w)


    I believe Sessions was in way over his head on how to deal with the combined DoJ/FBI/CIA bureaucracy, and that he's an honorable man who mistakenly believed he was dealing with other honorable people.

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:22 AM (AMIL/)

    150 Good post!

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2019 07:22 AM (AllCR)

    151 I am not defending the GOP. I think they have squandered an historic opportunity. In 2016 they were at a high water mark. Never before has the GOP held more seats in Congress, state legislatures, and governorships. And they got spooked by the attacks over Obamacare, and in the end, they wilted. It was still a small group who backed down, but it was enough.

    The issue we face today is what to do now. It is hard to believe that really smart people are making really smart tactical decisions at this point. My hope at this juncture is that the left will continue to beclown itself and that will be enough to keep them from power. I am not saying it is a good plan, and I am not saying it is a sure thing. The silent majority no longer exists. My hope there is still a majority of sanity.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 07:23 AM (n13/j)

    152 Not sure I ever saw a movie with Bruno Ganz, played Hitler and a Angel, can't get a bigger difference.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:23 AM (/rm4P)

    153 150 was about post 137

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2019 07:23 AM (AllCR)

    154 Got no more expectations of Barr than Sessions, guessing Barr is a swamp creature as well and not going to do anything.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:24 AM (/rm4P)

    155 America is currently the testing ground for a new political persona: the aggressively stupid leftist. Robespierre, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, et al, the rogues gallery of leftist leaders, were not stupid. Demented, but not actually stupid. This modern mixture of ferocious dumb-fu*kedness and self-righteousness and access to power may be new to history. How will it turn out?

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:25 AM (H8QX8)

    156 "Got no more expectations of Barr than Sessions, "

    Barr is savvier, knows the game better. He'll do nothing about the swamp but will offer better optics.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:27 AM (H8QX8)

    157 Well, this sucks.

    Bruno Ganz has died.
    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (cqNba)


    How is he taking the news?

    Joking aside, Downfall is a wrenchingly good movie. I probably wouldn't have gotten around to seeing it had it not been for the parody videos.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:27 AM (t+qrx)

    158 Why do cows have palaces in San Fran,OR is that Boxers and Briefs Pelosis places?

    Posted by: saf at February 16, 2019 07:28 AM (5IHGB)

    159

    "Macron démission!" (Macron resign)
    Round 14 live from Paris:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnrJBG0Hv0

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 07:28 AM (jYje5)

    160 Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:25 AM (H8QX

    An Idiocracy that can barely look away from its dumb phones to pay attention. And when you add in the hate filled online mobs, it is a sad state of affairs. These same people that would never even consider confronting America's enemies, see enemies in their own country everywhere.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 07:29 AM (n13/j)

    161 156 Yeah at best

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:30 AM (/rm4P)

    162 "How is he taking the news? "

    Yes...really.


    How soon til the inevitable "Hitlers discovers that Bruno Ganz has died" video emerges?

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:32 AM (cqNba)

    163 155
    This modern mixture of ferocious dumb-fu*kedness and self-righteousness and access to power may be new to history. How will it turn out?
    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:25 AM (H8QX


    About like one would expect.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:32 AM (sdi6R)

    164 I will probably never get the Sessions thing. I assume at some point a book will come out. Sessions was a good Senator and an early Trump devotee. He was for Trump long before many of us here.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 07:32 AM (n13/j)

    165 164
    I will probably never get the Sessions thing. I assume at some point a
    book will come out. Sessions was a good Senator and an early Trump
    devotee. He was for Trump long before many of us here.


    I suspect the FBI had all the info they needed to put him in his place.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 07:34 AM (oVJmc)

    166 Report: Biden 95% there on running for president. He can remember the smell the hint of breck on the young girls hair!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:35 AM (JFO2v)

    167 I suspect the FBI had all the info they needed to put him in his place.
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 07:34 AM (oVJmc)

    He prolly signed the hostesses year too!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:36 AM (JFO2v)

    168 Report: Biden 95% there on running for president. He can remember the smell the hint of breck on the young girls hair!

    He's run twice before. Both were legendary train wrecks.

    GO JOE!

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 07:38 AM (oVJmc)

    169 166 Report: Biden 95% there on running for president. He can remember the smell the hint of breck on the young girls hair!

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:35 AM (JFO2v)


    The Democrat Party inner circle is probably thinking: Hmm, we need an older guy, liked by most Dems, on the debate stages, to stop the catfights between the many, many female candidates who will be savagely trying to tear each other apart.


    Or to referee the catfights.

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:42 AM (AMIL/)

    170
    Comparison of weekend activities:

    US: breakfast, chores around the house, watching the ball game, dinner out.

    France: riot.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2019 07:42 AM (LsBY9)

    171 Bruno Ganz has died.
    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:09 AM (cqNba)
    ---
    How is he taking the news?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:27 AM (t+qrx)
    ---
    Dolfouroborous

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 07:43 AM (kQs4Y)

    172 The problem with me is I don't want a fight.

    If I fight someone dies. I play for keeps.

    My eyes show.

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (qZFwg)

    173 Real CNN Headline

    How Amazon blew its chance in New York

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (JFO2v)

    174
    Comparison of weekend activities:
    US: breakfast, chores around the house, watching the ball game, dinner out.
    France: riot.
    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2019 07:42 AM


    Not if Maxine Waters had her way. You'd be watching rioting outside your own home.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (jYje5)

    175
    Barr is savvier, knows the game better. He'll do nothing about the swamp but will offer better optics.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:27 AM (H8QX

    ---
    Barr is part of Trump's detente with the Bushes. Trump realized that he couldn't fight everyone at once and needed to make some alliances. Barr is part of that.

    This was why Trump made such a big deal about H.W.'s death. He was publicly cementing the alliance by giving the guy a tribute that was otherwise completely out of alignment with what he actually accomplished.

    Trump tried to go it alone and the swamp was just too much. He is picking his battles more carefully.

    This is why the bill signing doesn't bother me. He needed to get the government reopen for the rest of the year and he actually got something in return for it. The fact that Ann Coulter is flipping out about it tells me it was the right move.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (cfSRQ)

    176 165 164
    I will probably never get the Sessions thing. I assume at some point a
    book will come out. Sessions was a good Senator and an early Trump
    devotee. He was for Trump long before many of us here.

    I suspect the FBI had all the info they needed to put him in his place.
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 07:34 AM (oVJmc)


    There is a theory that pretty much everybody in high political office is blackmailable, and that the gatekeepers in both parties make sure that only blackmailable people make it through the nominating process. But Trump is not, and he somehow slipped through the cracks. This is freaking them all out.

    Maybe it's tinfoil hattish, but it sure would explain a lot.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (sdi6R)

    177 Basically the Trump Presidency is effectively over,
    he will do what he can given the current political situation, which is a
    hell of lot more than any Conservative has done since Reagan but what
    he will do will be at the margins and be completley undone by the next
    Donk President.

    Now this is not to say he can't win re-election
    but which given the insanity of the Donk side is likely but him being
    able to affect deep meaningful change is not likely.


    The GOP has effectively wasted a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    Sad.


    Posted by: John The Savage at February 16, 2019 06:26 AM

    ---

    Sorry to bust your bubble but Trump is just getting started. He has at least two more years to pack the Federal Judiciary and 6 more years if he gets reelected.


    If he gets reelected he will get at least two more SCOTUS picks.

    Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2019 07:45 AM (JUOKG)

    178 How is he taking the news?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:27 AM (t+qrx)
    ---
    Dolfouroborous

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 07:43 AM (kQs4Y)


    Wait until he hears Steiner isn't coming to his funeral. Then he'll really become unhinged!

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:45 AM (AMIL/)

    179 On my own personal problems had to disconnect my hot water tank and reconnect using pipe thread compound instead of Teflon tape. I let it sit overnight to see if it hardened, it didn't but put water pressure back on and everything looks leak free.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:46 AM (/rm4P)

    180 Let's see.....

    Lighter, check.

    Hair, check.

    Calm down, all is well and proceeding according to plan.

    More coffee.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 07:47 AM (Z+IKu)

    181 Dolfouroborous
    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 07:43 AM (kQs4Y)


    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:47 AM (t+qrx)

    182 It is a race between Ruthy's health and President Trump' s time left in office.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 07:48 AM (/rm4P)

    183 164
    I will probably never get the Sessions thing. I assume at some point a
    book will come out. Sessions was a good Senator and an early Trump
    devotee. He was for Trump long before many of us here.


    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 07:32 AM (n13/j)

    ---
    It's simple: he was blindsided.

    The notion that the NSA, FBI and CIA worked in tandem to fully infiltrate and spy on a presidential campaign and THEN created a Shadow Government within the DoJ is the stuff of paranoid 70s thrillers. I'm sure Sessions was literally in a "WTF moment" when all this hit him.

    And to be honest, so were all of us. It's easy for us keyboard warriors to tell this guy what to do from the comfort of our tastefully decorated libraries, but he was in a position where he literally did not know who to trust.

    So he did what he could, recognized it wasn't enough and stepped down.

    I know we use the word "unprecedented" a lot, but it WAS in fact unprecedented. Sessions was out of his depth.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:48 AM (cfSRQ)

    184 Wait until he hears Steiner isn't coming to his funeral. Then he'll really become unhinged!
    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:45 AM (AMIL/)


    *waves hand dismissively*
    "Bruno Ganz is dignified and solemn. He's not going to flip out."

    *nervous side glance*
    "Mein Führer..."

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:50 AM (t+qrx)

    185 I don't care if it wouldn't have stopped the bill from becoming law, Trump shouldn't have signed it. "But what could he do?" He could have acted like a man. He could have shown his supporters that he wasn't afraid to do what was right, even if he was the only man in government who was.

    He could have been like Fabrizio Quattrocchi, who yelled at his al Qaeda executioners, "I'll show you how an Italian dies!" What was the good of that? They went ahead and killed him anyway. But we remember heroes. We don't remember fat, old, toothless housecats who just want to lie down on their pillows and give up.

    Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 16, 2019 07:50 AM (kS0sG)

    186 Sorry to bust your bubble but Trump is just getting
    started. He has at least two more years to pack the Federal Judiciary
    and 6 more years if he gets reelected.

    If he gets reelected he will get at least two more SCOTUS picks.


    Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2019 07:45 AM (JUOKG)

    ---
    I want people to contemplate what a second term for Trump could mean, especially if he mops the floor with whatever wack-job they send up against him and gets the House back with less squishes in the ranks.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:51 AM (cfSRQ)

    187 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:44 AM (cfSRQ)

    That's a nice take on things and much appreciated.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 07:51 AM (H8QX8)

    188 RE PDTS signing the bill.... If you can't deal with your friends and your enemies wont trade with you, it's time to get new friends and then go and defeat your enemies.

    Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 16, 2019 07:52 AM (iAhR6)

    189 ---
    It's simple: he was blindsided.

    The
    notion that the NSA, FBI and CIA worked in tandem to fully infiltrate
    and spy on a presidential campaign and THEN created a Shadow Government
    within the DoJ is the stuff of paranoid 70s thrillers. I'm sure Sessions
    was literally in a "WTF moment" when all this hit him.

    And to be
    honest, so were all of us. It's easy for us keyboard warriors to tell
    this guy what to do from the comfort of our tastefully decorated
    libraries, but he was in a position where he literally did not know who
    to trust.

    So he did what he could, recognized it wasn't enough and stepped down.

    I know we use the word "unprecedented" a lot, but it WAS in fact unprecedented. Sessions was out of his depth.





    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:48 AM

    ---
    If what mccabe wrote in his book was true, and I suspect it is due to the walk back from his comments on that 60 minutes interview, then sessions was confronted with a nightmare the day he showed up for work. And yes you are absolutely correct, he literally couldn't trust anyone at DOJ.

    He was probably met by rosenstein and "briefed" on what was going on and the need for him to step away from it unless he wanted to be included in the mess.

    Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2019 07:52 AM (JUOKG)

    190 'Sup?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 07:53 AM (MVjcR)

    191 My take on this: Trump is doing what he can. If he loses the lawsuits, he will at least have tried and thus, not piss off his base and lose in 2020.

    Posted by: JAS at February 16, 2019 07:53 AM (3HNOQ)

    192 Nick berg

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 07:53 AM (qZFwg)

    193 165: Which speaks volumes. Rather than face embarrassment over past behaviors he betrayed the President and the nation by this Mueller crap and letting Hillary and company off the hook.

    Yes I know "stealthJeff" is reviving the idea that Sessions was the greatest AG ever and just keeping everything secret until the proper time came, but eventually you have to realize that the proper time and all this 3D chess is the stuff of Hollywood fiction.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:53 AM (U7k5w)

    194 Good morning, Weasel. Going to the Greek place for breakfast?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:54 AM (t+qrx)

    195 I know we use the word "unprecedented" a lot, but it WAS in fact unprecedented. Sessions was out of his depth.


    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:48 AM (cfSRQ)

    That makes a lot of sense. He assumed if the people voted for his slate, they could at least try to enact their policies. This is probably not fair, but maybe he was also just passed his prime. I always liked the guy as a senator and don't think he went into this with anything other than good intentions.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 07:54 AM (n13/j)

    196 194 Good morning, Weasel. Going to the Greek place for breakfast?
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 07:54 AM (t+qrx)
    -------
    Howdy hogmartin!
    Maybe tomorrow! Oh, next time you see dagny around, tell her you went to Atlantis and you're practically a local now.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 07:57 AM (MVjcR)

    197 189: He should have stepped down when he decided to recuse. Trump could have nominated someone not so "out of his depth" who would not have made Rosenstein de facto AG. I believe Sessions stayed in office to slow walk any investigation into Hillary/Obama and friends.

    Actually, Trump should have fired his ass and dealt with the consequences.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:57 AM (U7k5w)

    198 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 07:48 AM

    That does sound like a plausible explanation.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 07:58 AM (sdi6R)

    199 Which speaks volumes. Rather than face embarrassment
    over past behaviors he betrayed the President and the nation by this
    Mueller crap and letting Hillary and company off the hook.



    Yes I know "stealthJeff" is reviving the idea that Sessions was the
    greatest AG ever and just keeping everything secret until the proper
    time came, but eventually you have to realize that the proper time and
    all this 3D chess is the stuff of Hollywood fiction.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:53 AM (U7k5w)

    ---
    What you're ignoring is that he did in fact accomplish a lot. The conspirators have been purged. McCabe was fired, Strzok and Page exposed - a lot of dirty laundry was pulled out for the world to see.

    I keep making this point but it bears repeating: Without cleaning out the riff-raff, it was impossible for Sessions or anyone else to do anything.

    If one of those hyper-partisan types was told "proscute McCabe" he would have done so in a way that let him walk. Look at the botched prosecution of Senator Menendez! They screwed it up on purpose so he could skate.

    The same thing would have happened had Sessions tried to fire everyone all at once and then use Dem conspirators to prosecute their buddies.

    I know people want to see decisive action because it makes good dramatic scenes on TV, but sometimes moving methodically, incrementally works better. Gosh, it's what got the left where it is today.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:02 AM (cfSRQ)

    200 198: Out of his depth was a charitable explanation. The man spent years in DC and absolutely had to know what was waiting at DOJ. If we "know" it was full of Obama hardliners and leftist charlatans, surely Sessions knew too.

    If he caved to FBI blackmailers, then he's a weak man. The honorable thing to do was feign cardiac issues and retire

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 08:02 AM (U7k5w)

    201 Late to the thread as usual.

    Vic, were you taking tamsulosin or finasteride for your prostate?

    Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 16, 2019 08:02 AM (F6tBH)

    202 Kinda rowdy around here for a Saturday, ain't it?

    Posted by: Corona at February 16, 2019 08:04 AM (MceDl)

    203 48. Why do doomsdayers like yourself always forget about the lifetime judges. Always.

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:04 AM (EKYdb)

    204 Actually, Trump should have fired his ass and dealt with the consequences.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 07:57 AM (U7k5w)

    ---
    You do understand with Sessions gone, Rosenstein would have been the Acting again, right?

    Trump couldn't just fire the entire DoJ.

    In hindsight, Sessions may come out of this looking better. We won't know how much he cleaned up DoJ until long after the fact.

    But that's less satisfying than lighting your hair on fire and shouting DO SOMETHING!11!, so here we are.

    By the way, has Huber showed up yet?

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:04 AM (cfSRQ)

    205 I know people want to see decisive action because it
    makes good dramatic scenes on TV, but sometimes moving methodically,
    incrementally works better. Gosh, it's what got the left where it is
    today.


    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:02 AM (cfSRQ)

    Aint that the truth.

    Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2019 08:05 AM (n13/j)

    206 203 48. Why do doomsdayers like yourself always forget about the lifetime judges. Always.
    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:04 AM (EKYdb)

    I think Ruthie is Tango Uniform. The NYT pics they used to show her back in the SCOTUS was from 2016.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 08:05 AM (JFO2v)

    207 The rino crowd that whines about a dem prez burning down the gates forget one thing. A likely 6-3 or 7-2 Scotus negating Roberts, will be there

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:06 AM (EKYdb)

    208 He was probably met by rosenstein and "briefed" on what was going on and the need for him to step away from it unless he wanted to be included in the mess.

    Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2019 07:52 AM (JUOKG)


    But didn't Rosenstein become Deputy AG the same time Sessions became AG? Rosie was in government somewhere when Trump and Sessions picked him to be Deputy, but I think both Sessions and Rosie were blindsided about Trump investigations by Comey, McCabe, and others when they took office. However, I still don't get why Rosie decided to appoint a Special Counsel, then select Mueller. He was either an idiot, or believed all the bullshit given him by McCabe, or blackmailed, or in on the Get Trump caper.

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 08:06 AM (AMIL/)

    209 206. Yes, and Breyer is 81

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:07 AM (EKYdb)

    210 I am soooo happy we avoided another shutdown.

    They are still cleaning up the mess of all the federal employees who starved to death last time.

    Oh, the horror.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2019 08:07 AM (Z+IKu)

    211 199: He accomplished nothing on that score. Congress exposed them to the nation, if left to his own devices, I doubt Session would have let them go at all. And the conspirators should have been prosecuted. Not for one minute do I believe it should have taken this long for that to happen. Indictments happened faster in Watergate without the aid of emails and computer data.

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 08:08 AM (U7k5w)

    212
    Pepper spray, smoke grenades, bottle tossing, fireworks in Paris.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:08 AM (jYje5)

    213 Wait until he hears Steiner isn't coming to his funeral. Then he'll really become unhinged!

    Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2019 07:45 AM (AMIL/)



    *waves hand dismissively*

    "Bruno Ganz is dignified and solemn. He's not going to flip out."



    *nervous side glance*

    "Mein Führer..."

    Posted by: hogmartin
    ------
    Late to the party (HA! swidt?) but this will have to do for now.

    https://youtu.be/H_L6c79zc8U

    Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2019 08:09 AM (Y4EXg)

    214 Obama had the 60 in the senate to get commiecare. Trump never had that

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:10 AM (EKYdb)

    215 So Maryland is reviewing a Bill to allow essential Federal workers who worked without pay to draw unemployment.

    No discussion of if they have to re-pay the unemployment upon receipt of back pay once the government opens up again.

    Or do we intend to write a bill which allows them to keep it, thereby allowing the workers to profit by shutdown.

    We do live in stupid times.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:10 AM (cqNba)

    216 204: He appointed Whitaker as Acting, Rosenstein would not have remained in that role had Sessions been terminated earlier

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 08:10 AM (U7k5w)

    217 In other news, my Mauser Broomhandle barrel arrived at the gunsmith, so in five short months (?!) I should get it back with a perfectly rifled insert. Been meaning to do this for more than a year, but finally got around to doing it.

    The barrel was so corroded that it actually tore the patches I sent through it. If you looked real hard, you could see where the rifling used to be.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:11 AM (cfSRQ)

    218 Also on this date I was in the hospital due to complications from a drug I was taking to shrink my prostate. It didn't work and it had some annoying side effects, like causing you to become dizzy and falling down. I am much better today, but still having problems with prostate.


    Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)


    Vic,

    I've heard good things about a newish procedure called-

    Rezum.

    Check it out, but as always try to find a doctor that done it a lot.

    Not some schmoe who's heard about it and wants to give it a whirl.

    Bonus! No drugs with annoying side-effects.


    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:11 AM (CRRq9)

    219 Morning. America. Sigh

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:12 AM (Y+V3r)

    220 I wish trump would use his sources to push out Roberts. We all know that the adoptions were not legit. He causes too much stress

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:12 AM (EKYdb)

    221 I wake up fine every morning, knowing hillary is not Potus

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (EKYdb)

    222 I've been a big fan of the art blog Illustration Art for years, though I frequent the site less after the author went anti-Trump and strayed from the aesthetic to the political.

    He seems to have found his way back, and in the post "Why Are These Illustrations So Bad?" he asks why the NYT Magazine chooses such inept portraitists:

    http://tinyurl.com/y4qguhaq

    What really surprises is the comment section, in which several people point fingers at Progressives for making talent seem elitist.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (kQs4Y)

    223 Well, that's the last we hear about the Aurora shooting story. The media will drop it. Not in their wheelhouse.

    Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (14qvS)

    224 205: IMO the dramatic scenes are the silly idea that there is some maniacal game of intrigue going on and that the right time will come for "justice". Justice delayed will surely be justice denied, and all the conspirators will run the clock like Clapper did. Failure to prosecute Clapper assured me that Sessions was dishonest

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (U7k5w)

    225 I hope the Democrat debate stage is packed with females. Watching them try to out tolerate and out welcome each other will be an SNL skit. Woe betide any male candidate who tries to debate without committing word rape.

    Posted by: Blond morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:14 AM (13CQC)

    226 Probably will be willowed. Vic is on fire today.

    I'm sorta bummed I have a contract on my little house. I bought is 20 yrs ago. It went on the market Tues., I had four offers. The one contract that offered over asking price has the best credit. Barring issues, which I don't expect, we close on 3/15. Not sure if I am happy or not.

    Carry on.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:15 AM (9L2du)

    227 Nic berg

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 08:15 AM (qZFwg)

    228 Aurora is a dump city in Hellinois. Surprised nobody in factory had concealed carry.

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:15 AM (EKYdb)

    229 Funny, Aurora, CO, where the shooting was at the movie theater is a hell hole outside of Denver.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:17 AM (9L2du)

    230 223 Well, that's the last we hear about the Aurora shooting story. The media will drop it. Not in their wheelhouse.
    Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (14qvS)

    wut

    Posted by: rhennigantx at February 16, 2019 08:17 AM (JFO2v)

    231 221, nice, isn't it? And it's evil of me, but I love to contemplate that she does the same.

    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:18 AM (13CQC)

    232 https://youtu.be/2HnrJBG0Hv0
    quatorzième semaine de manifestations à Paris

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:18 AM (/rm4P)

    233 Infidel, I haven't been keeping up. Is letting the house go the result of a hardship?

    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:20 AM (13CQC)

    234 Failure to prosecute Clapper assured me that Sessions was dishonest

    Posted by: CN at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (U7k5w)

    ---
    Actually, that was on Congress.

    Congress has the power to put people in jail for lying to them. Strangely, they did exactly nothing to Clapper, which showed they have no problem with it.

    This is what Trump is up against. GOP lawmakers - all of them Staunch Conservatives who believe in Rule of Law - let people lie publicly to them and then do exactly nothing about it.

    So basically Trump has to fight the entire government, including people on his own side. Given that, I'd say he's doing a remarkable job.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:21 AM (cfSRQ)

    235 "Surprised nobody in factory had concealed carry."

    Doesn't Illinois have some rather draconian gun laws, reducing the likelihood that a resident can legally protect themselves?

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:22 AM (cqNba)

    236 223 Well, that's the last we hear about the Aurora shooting story. The media will drop it. Not in their wheelhouse.
    Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2019 08:13 AM (14qvS)


    I didn't really pay attention. Was the perp inconvenient to the narrative?

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:23 AM (sdi6R)

    237 I know how you feel Infidel. We were in our little home for 22 years. It was our first house. I still miss it. The neighborhood was getting shady and we decided to move. Wish we could have just moved the house out to the country!

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:24 AM (dUJdY)

    238 217 In other news, my Mauser Broomhandle barrel arrived at the gunsmith, so in five short months (?!) I should get it back with a perfectly rifled insert. Been meaning to do this for more than a year, but finally got around to doing it.

    The barrel was so corroded that it actually tore the patches I sent through it. If you looked real hard, you could see where the rifling used to be.
    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:11 AM (cfSRQ)
    -----
    Nice!

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:24 AM (MVjcR)

    239 Infidel- Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end

    heard that once, or twice

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:24 AM (/rm4P)

    240
    quatorzième

    Figured that one out... 'quatre' refers to four, and this is week #14 so it must mean fourteen in French.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:24 AM (jYje5)

    241
    Pepper spray, smoke grenades, bottle tossing, fireworks in Paris.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:08 AM


    DarkSky says it's 60 degrees in Paris

    maybe some additional fair weather protesters

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:25 AM (KCxzN)

    242 Was the perp inconvenient to the narrative?
    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:23 AM (sdi6R)


    He was black so...yes.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:25 AM (dUJdY)

    243 234
    So basically Trump has to fight the entire government, including people on his own side. Given that, I'd say he's doing a remarkable job.
    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2019 08:21 AM (cfSRQ)


    I agree, except that the GOPe is clearly not "on his own side".

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:25 AM (sdi6R)

    244 Aurora shooter was a employee

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:26 AM (/rm4P)

    245 "Was the perp inconvenient to the narrative?"

    Well, the perp wasn't a white combat Vet, drawing disability for PTSD.

    So yeh...not convenient for the gun deniers.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:26 AM (cqNba)

    246
    definitely more peeps on the street than in recent weeks

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:26 AM (KCxzN)

    247 Anyone know which GOPe voted for this shit sandwich?

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:26 AM (kufk0)

    248
    60℉ in Paris today for the high. Just saw some guy spraying his head with water.

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:27 AM (jYje5)

    249 Infidel, I haven't been keeping up. Is letting the house go the result of a hardship?


    Posted by: Blond Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:20 AM (13CQC)


    Blonde, not the sort of hardship you may think. Dad passed last August and I promised him I would keep the family home. So, that is where I am, and my little place is under contract, having second thoughts. Wish I could put that house on this lot. Been a rough few years, dad diagnosed with lung cancer, then brain cancer. Little bro's retired ho won't allow us to talk. My youngest daughter passed last month. I just want all this shit over. I'm tired.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:27 AM (9L2du)

    250 Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2019 06:56 AM (mpXpK)

    Wrong. A pocket veto works only if Congress isn't in session.

    Posted by: Green New Dentistry at February 16, 2019 08:27 AM (wYseH)

    251
    Wrong. A pocket veto works only if Congress isn't in session.

    Negative, Ghost Rider

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:29 AM (KCxzN)

    252 He was black so...yes.
    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 16, 2019 08:25 AM (dUJd
    -----

    Wait wait, surely they can salvage something from this! He was about to be fired, right? So there you go. Straight up racism made him do it.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:30 AM (13CQC)

    253 "How the Chicoms dealt with their SJWs once they were no longer useful:"From 1962 to 1979, 16 to 18 million youth were sent to the countryside to undergo re-education....Many students could not deal with the harsh life and died in
    the process of reeducation."Posted by: Mr. Peebles


    interesting ... I'm not very clear on the history of Mao or Stalin ... our version of communism may be a little different. Corporatism is part of the American communism, and it has already gone global, beyond the reach of voter control.


    The culture being displaced in our case is traditional America, with mass immigration, but also the Trojan horse of Google/FB/Twitter enforcing punishment for WrongThink right down to the individual comments.


    And I think the crime syndicates in major cities is directly linked to the Dem mayors and governors. The drug/human trafficking is part of the cash flow plan. The idyllic "socialism" narrative is just cover for their criminal actions. But the common thread is that humans are all expendable to advance the power of the state. (though CFR is not exactly "the state")

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 08:30 AM (Cus5s)

    254 I have to use web translation often, usually from Russian.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (/rm4P)

    255 Wait wait, surely they can salvage something from this! He was about to be fired, right? So there you go. Straight up racism made him do it.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:30 AM (13CQC)

    Do we know why he was to be fired?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (Y+V3r)

    256
    I wish they'd have to common courtesy to protest in English

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (KCxzN)

    257
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto#United_States

    Posted by: Newest Nic at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (jYje5)

    258 wish they'd have to common courtesy to protest in English
    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (KCxzN)

    Amen. Lol

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:32 AM (Y+V3r)

    259 Infidel I'm so sorry. I was looking around for you, confusing you with someone with "lurker" in their Nic. I had seen something about Pahrump or I wanted to ask if you'd contacted your brother. Damn, I wish I could remember what I'd found that I wanted to share with you.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:32 AM (13CQC)

    260 "Do we know why he was to be fired?"

    For being black.


    Duh..

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:32 AM (cqNba)

    261 252 He was black so...yes.
    Posted by: Jewells45

    Either color or creed, I would like a toxicology done on shooters living or dead to determine if it's the result of drug(s) abuse either prescription or non.

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 08:33 AM (8ikIW)

    262 Organs from the elders will be made into a hearty stew for the camps

    Posted by: Bruce
    ________

    Actually, they were to be converted into a gruel-like substance more resembling yogurt than stew. But I don't believe it. To my profound disappointment, the camps don't exist. I so wanted to send the unenlightened to such facilities, and I thought the vacant Walmart would be the venue of such glory, only to see another store occupy this prime space.

    As for the Yogurt Green (a funny reference we Leftists use) another let-down is apparent. The yogurt plant in California was supposed to be where the elderly were converted into sustenance for the inmates, but General Mills announced they were shutting that factory down. The façade of Yoplait is ruined.

    I fear that it's all coming to an end. My dreams of destroying the bodies and spirits of those who dare to disagree with me have dissipated like the proverbial fart in the wind. My ever-present smirk of superiority is a parody of itself. Even my comments as I troll this blog, once masterpieces of instigation, have mutated into self-pitying ramblings.

    Alas, the lamp-posts are empty as they offer nothing but light in the darkness. Perhaps I'll venture into that store where the Walmart used to be, wander its aisles and ponder what could have been, what should have been, and maybe buy some birdseed for the nuthatches and the tufted titmouses (or is it titmice?) that grace my otherwise desolate winter yard.

    Posted by: WaterCow at February 16, 2019 08:33 AM (Lj7FZ)

    263 Va Gov going a reconciliation tour. Lol.

    Where are the white women

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:33 AM (Y+V3r)

    264 Making students into farm hands was a Mao's solution to raise food supply. Of course it killed off some helping that problem out.

    Posted by: Skip. Finish the Wall at February 16, 2019 08:34 AM (/rm4P)

    265 I left my favorite insulated coffee mug at work, dammit. Having to use my backup.

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:34 AM (MVjcR)

    266 22 Students SJWs at George Washington University are demanding the school change its mascot, the 'Colonials,' arguing the nickname may discourage students, due to not being inclusive. Students assholes suggest changing the mascot to a hippo or riverhorse instead.



    Since the Hippo is native of Africa, wouldn't using this as a mascot be a prime example of cultural appropriation?


    Of course, if the true reason was to continue protesting...

    Posted by: JB1000 at February 16, 2019 08:34 AM (tjr3U)

    267 Do we know why he was to be fired?
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:31 AM (Y+V3r

    ======

    I don't know if we do, but that sort of thing is irrelevant for favored groups of the MSM. Black person fired, ipso facto...

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:35 AM (13CQC)

    268 Blonde, I haven't been commenting much. But, yes, he is in Pahrump. I actually talked to him Th, nite. He snuck in a call. I do have his addy now. He was calling cause he wanted something.

    Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2019 08:35 AM (9L2du)

    269 234. So very well said. Conservatives believe in the rule of law, even when the courts crush us on most issues like Obamacare.

    Dems are Godless, constitution means nothing, and will sell their soul to a Cross Demon to win politically.

    GopE and Establishment Conservatives just attack their own POTUS

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:35 AM (d9f4Z)

    270 tufted titmouses (or is it titmice?)

    Boob-rats

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 08:35 AM (8ikIW)

    271 14 "They take our patience and our forbearance for weakness.."

    Hmm. Not sure about that formulation. We may be speaking here about actual weakness.

    Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 06:00 AM (H8QX


    Eh.

    The basic problem is that we, of the middle and working class, make poor revolutionaries.

    Why?

    Because to be a member of the middle and/or working class, you:

    1) Obey and respect the Law
    2) Have planned out your life and have goals
    3) Have responsibility to your family
    4) Don't have a lot of free time because of family, church, business, friends, social obligations
    5) Aren't sitting around waiting for someone or something like gov't to make your life better, you're doing it yourself for yourself.
    6)Take responsibility for your own life.

    Taken all together that means the middle and working classes will watch their lives sink slowly then vanish quickly before they will take action.

    Trump, despite all the howling by the leftards, was a polite knock on the door as usual. Working through the system, doncha know.

    If, if we of the middle and working classes, actually decide as a group to take action,

    then, yes, we will win and win quickly because we and the planners and doers. We plan and do what we set out to do.

    Very unlikely though. The Left has effectively fractured society and natural allies.

    Look at the war against boys. How many mothers who want successful sons and young women who want to marry successful men would support that?

    ZIp. Zero. Nada. In a rational world.

    How many do support it?...a lot.

    Strangely enough, if violence comes, it won't be because of the Dims exactly.

    It will be because a-holes like the Turtle have frustrated all peaceful means of effecting change.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2019 08:35 AM (CRRq9)

    272 Somebody say boobs?

    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:36 AM (MVjcR)

    273 Nood coffee

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2019 08:36 AM (kufk0)

    274 Ah fuck I'm gonna need a truss.

    Posted by: the giraffe at February 16, 2019 08:37 AM (UdKB7)

    275
    nood

    Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2019 08:37 AM (KCxzN)

    276 Oddly enough, every argument I heard yesterday concerning Trump and the slippery slope of National Emergency boiled down to 'If he does this, the democrats may do something crazy once they get back in power'.

    A ringing endorsement for voting Democratic if I ever heard one.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (cqNba)

    277 Weasel, use one of your new mugs!

    Posted by: bluebell at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (U5tDi)

    278 The pocket veto allows a bill to lapse if the president doesn't sign it and the Congress is not in session.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 16, 2019 08:38 AM (wYseH)

    279 Article 1 section 7

    ...
    [period]
    If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.


    'As long as either is "around" you can't fool me.'


    That is the rule.

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (qZFwg)

    280 We have bitching about the GopE since 2005, when Pubbie Congress ran up spending, Bush pushed Harriet Myers, and the RINOS pushed Amnesty.

    almost 15 years, and still no viable real Conservative 3rd party. Status Quo sucks

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (d9f4Z)

    281 Mueller must be a vile sub human for wanting Manafort to die in prison.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:39 AM (Y+V3r)

    282 I do not know about a pocket veto, but I have played pocket billiards a few occasions lol

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM (Y+V3r)

    283 276. LOL Touche. As said before a Dem Prez will likely have to deal with a Conservative SCOTUS in that scenario

    Posted by: Jonah at February 16, 2019 08:40 AM (d9f4Z)

    284 I left my favorite insulated coffee mug at work, dammit. Having to use my backup.
    Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2019 08:34 AM (MVjcR

    ======

    Well I ran out of half and half and I can't have any coffee at all unless I run out to Starbucks. It's a third-world hell hole.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (13CQC)

    285 Can you believe these jerkoffs have deference to Sunday.


    What heathens


    What evangelacels

    To the stake !!1!

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 08:41 AM (qZFwg)

    286 Either color or creed, I would like a toxicology done on shooters living or dead to determine if it's the result of drug(s) abuse either prescription or non.

    Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2019 08:33 AM (8ikIW)


    Drug-shaming is NOT allowed!


    PS: Read the prescription cautionary notes on Ambien! I wouldn't allow that SH!T on my property let alone into my house!

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 08:42 AM (f3oO4)

    287 >>He was probably met by rosenstein and "briefed" on what was going on and the need for him to step away from it unless he wanted to be included in the mess.

    I think he had a pretty good idea of the big picture without any help for Rosenstein. He was part of the campaign and he was a targeted just like Trump and Flynn.

    I also think this is one of the more overblown and misunderstood aspects of the entire investigation. It's also becoming quite clear even to those who doubted it that Rosenstein and McCabe were at war. McCabe had started an obstruction of justice investigation into Trump just days after Trump, with Rosenstein's assistance, fired Comey. That meant that the same crooked group that had framed Trump with Russia collusion was also going to run his obstruction of justice investigation.

    Does that sound like a good idea to anyone?

    That's why Rosenstein brought in Mueller, to take the investigation away from the conspirators and bring it under control of the DOJ. Don't forget, Trump interviewed Mueller the day before Trump named Wray.

    Sessions recusing himself was irritating to Trump but at the end it is largely a sideshow. All of the conspirators have been discovered, fired or forced out with criminal investigations ongoing. It is dumb to keep asking about why there are no leaks about the investigations when that was one of the biggest problems that needed fixing at the DOJ.

    They are not supposed to talk about ongoing investigations. But we keep hearing that they are happening including mostly recently from Whitaker at his hearing in front of Congress the Friday before last.

    So maybe Whitaker is lying. Maybe the Clinton Foundation whistleblowers are lying. Maybe there really isn't an empaneled grand jury hearing evidence at least against McCabe and that is a lie too. But this is how investigations are supposed to work, without leaks and without publicity.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2019 08:43 AM (/tuJf)

    288 Most of America knows DC is corrupt ... on the left they wanted Bernie, even though he was a terrible option (if the DNC really wanted an option to Crooked Hillary). Even AOC sees the problems with Amazon power of the corporation ... but her response is cray cray.


    Pulling on any one corrupt thread pulls on the whole cabal ... some support is more hidden, and we find the GOPe is completely woven in to the mesh. Talk of "them" removing JFK or Nixon is labelled "conspiracy", but their protection of the Clinton seditious grifting made their DeepState mafia evident.


    But the level of sedition is what is now being revealed, as Trump was mostly elected as an outsider, and our FBI/etc. is either removing him or controlling him. And the MSM is revealed as a branch of the sedition party (the unitparty). need more "wokeness".

    Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (Cus5s)

    289 252
    Wait wait, surely they can salvage something from this! He was about to be fired, right? So there you go. Straight up racism made him do it.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at February 16, 2019 08:30 AM (13CQC)


    All the white employees were wearing MAGA hats. Anyone would've snapped.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 08:46 AM (sdi6R)

    290 Good morning!

    Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2019 09:19 AM (u82oZ)

    291 Read all the comments. Vic and others are so good I forgot to post.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2019 09:19 AM (u82oZ)

    292 #286 Ambien... before Ambien I had no clue what anxiety was. After I quit it it took years to rid me of anxiety. I'm over it now.. hopefully forever. Back to fitfull nights sleeping but brain function mucho better.entire episode was about seven years.

    Ambien works to get you the sleep you need to get to a job but the cost is some kind of corrosive effect on your emotional centers. Just say no to drugs and alcohol.

    Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2019 09:26 AM (6wBDF)

    293 #281 Mueller was born vile.

    Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2019 09:27 AM (6wBDF)

    294 Umm ..

    @287 Does that sound like a good idea to anyone?

    Yes and no jack.

    None of "that" sounds good to Me.

    Sorry. Color me skeptical.

    You won't find me with a random rope in my house. I use every loose knot and loop. I save 3 large watermelon sized boxes and odd plastic forms. Well before I know I have a week to live I will have all settled and make sure no more bills to pay.

    Posted by: 20190216 at February 16, 2019 09:29 AM (lpSt8)

    295 #67 not so secret secret in Commiefornia is free college. Over half ALREADY get free college in community college. Graduating from the two year college is about 20% after 5 years of matriculation.

    Hey! It could be worse.

    Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2019 09:34 AM (6wBDF)

    296 #290 can we smirk?

    Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2019 09:36 AM (6wBDF)

    297 I'm gonna send Ruthie a MyPillow in the name of Antonin Scalia.
    It might work.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2019 09:39 AM (oVJmc)

    298 "Ode to Donkey Chompers"

    Posted by: Key West Reader at February 16, 2019 09:39 AM (8TrZS)

    299 Weaponizing Federal bureaucracies, like never before, is so Bolshevik!

    Posted by: Glycine Bienne at February 16, 2019 11:03 AM (syoLK)

    300 Ace got the crew riled up. I see most of us salivatin' and spittin' on our hands.

    Posted by: Ray at February 16, 2019 11:15 AM (AVxHd)

    301 John the Savage,

    Thank you for your great comments! I have saved some to copy to an e-mail to my conservative list.

    I agree that we need a new party. Our real problem is that we here at Ace's Place are not close to a majority in this country anymore. The Silent Majority has mostly died off and some of us who were late converts to the group are old now too. So, if we had a new party, we'd just be another splinter group, guaranteeing a Democrat win.

    If we could even form a group it would be demonized immediately by the MSM & the Elites, then ignored until it dissolved.

    I was a part of the Tea Party gathering in DC in 2009 -- amazing experience of pure patriotism from people coming from all over the country. The of it demonization began immediately. It didn't manage to create a viable GOP or third party.

    Trump got this group of Patriots energized again, but we can see how the forces aligned against him have tied our "Gulliver" with a thousand strings.

    Posted by: Margaret McCarthy at February 16, 2019 03:06 PM (F2qnR)

    And I Saw A Pale Horse. And Its Rider's Name Was ONT

    I'm just not feeling it tonight gang. I suppose that I can help those of you that missed Valentines Day though. It's not too late to get your loved one a thoughtful gift.

    IMG_0929.JPG

    Is 4-Chan Making Sense One Of The Signs Of The Apocalypse?


    Anon screed.jpg

    Well, At Least The Institutions Are Doing Fine


    Public Education’s Dirty Secret

    Pretty sobering read about the warehousing of kids that passes for “education” in too much of the country today. The system prevents kids who have the desire and ability to learn from being able to do so, in favor of coddling the kids who have neither. Kids need to be pushed, to be expected to meet standards and to expand their horizons. Too often now we do neither, and what's the result?

    I have begun everything with the idea that I could succeed, and I never had much patience with the multitudes of people who are always ready to explain why one cannot succeed. – Booker T. Washington


    Law And Order

    I tend to fall on the “back the blue” side of the equation, I think most conservatives do, but it's not unquestioning and it's not blanket. This is one of the most egregious violations of police authority that I have ever seen. This isn't law enforcement, it's thuggery.


    Body camera video shows man tased 11 times by officers in Arizona

    They held him down and tased his balls. How are these cops not in jail?


    I Believe The Children Are Our Future




    I showed that picture to my teenage son and told him “You ever get tired of living, let me catch you in a photo like that. I will pin you to the wall and skin you alive.” I was joking and he knew it, because we both know that he knows better.

    Churchill Says Hi

    Polar bear invasion on Novaya Zemlya as 50 wild animals besiege remote town and ‘chase people’


    Hey, Here's An Idea

    ‘They don’t even try’: Hungary’s new border fence called ‘spectacular success’

    David Limbaugh: Trump and His Supporters Are in This Fight for the Long Haul

    Well, maybe. But with Trump hamstringing himself by signing the bill today, the question becomes what exactly does the “long haul” entail? How far are we from the point where Kurt Schlichter's Kelly Turnbull novels start seeming like a good case scenario? How much of a possibility is there of coexisting with people like this?


    Deplorable Shit.jpg


    A New Conservative Agenda

    A New Conservative Agenda

    Sounds good, but how exactly would something like this work if all of the institutions of civil society are destroyed?

    Tonight's ONT brought to you by jungle love:


    Posted by: WeirdDave at 09:49 PM




    Comments

    (Jump to bottom of page)

    1 Early!

    Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 15, 2019 09:50 PM (kQs4Y)

    2 Yes, it is early isn't it.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 09:51 PM (6a9Py)

    3 overheard - What did you get your wife for Valentines?

    Pregnant.

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 09:51 PM (vBjuR)

    4 Dang it

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 09:51 PM (ZfRYq)

    5 Slapweasel early defense system strikes again.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 09:52 PM (I/iGu)

    6 Dear lord, will I make the top ten?

    Posted by: Beltway Elite at February 15, 2019 09:52 PM (b6kHD)

    7 David Limbaugh: Trump and His Supporters Are in This Fight for the Long Haul

    Yes, it's a journey, not a destination.

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (vBjuR)

    8 This ONT is decidedly less edible without chicken soup pics.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (I/iGu)

    9 Honey, I'll give you your present after you eat the mushrooms!

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

    10 An ONT is never early, nor late, etc. etc.

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (P1f+c)

    11 Wife: Honey, what did you get me for Valentine's Day?

    Husband (that bought wife a burial plot and funeral arrangements the previous year): Nothing! You didn't even use what I bought you last year!

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (6a9Py)

    12 Close!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM (9MIWI)

    13 I think James Woods is most likely right, there.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (NLLmE)

    14 They make these tools, big cutters for PVC pipe. Kinda like big scissors, with one blade.

    Pro-tip: Those are really sharp. And if they are in your toolbox, you might want to wear gloves as you root around in there.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (ZfRYq)

    15 Holy crap top 10 bisches.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (NLLmE)

    16 dang.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (NLLmE)

    17 Seems more like a ginger ale and saltines sorta ONT.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (I/iGu)

    18 They held him down and tased his balls. How are these cops not in jail?

    Because we're a Third World country now, with Third World police?

    Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

    19 Thirſt!

    Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (CLcKT)

    20 I hate sharp knives.

    Always cut myself.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (NLLmE)

    21 That Valentine's funeral ad needs to be read in Paul Lynde's voice from 'Send Me No Flowers' (1964).

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (zmIJL)

    22 I'm guessing that giraffe cheaped out, and didn't buy a Hallmark card.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (DMUuz)

    23 Nothing! You didn't even use what I bought you last year!
    Posted by: Bitter Clinger


    Good thing the ad was for buying plots 'as a couple'. One is now needed.

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (P1f+c)

    24 Pro-tip: Those are really sharp. And if they are in your toolbox, you might want to wear gloves as you root around in there.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (ZfRYq)

    Good idea to close them up and put the safety lock on!

    Posted by: Commissar "Nine Fingers" Hrothgar at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (9MIWI)

    25
    Still giggling like a schoolgirl about "Donkey Chompers"

    Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (vIjh1)

    26 Giraffe sex was always a crap shoot.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:56 PM (NLLmE)

    27 I hope that poor giraffe is okay...

    Posted by: lin-duh at February 15, 2019 09:56 PM (kufk0)

    28 ONT is both fashionably late and always on time.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 09:56 PM (I/iGu)

    29 22 I'm guessing that giraffe cheaped out, and didn't buy a Hallmark card.
    Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (DMUuz)

    That would do it.

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (vBjuR)

    30 Honey, I'll give you your present after you eat the mushrooms!
    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 09:53 PM

    Hey, you did that before. Well, alright.
    Daniel Day-Lewis

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (zmIJL)

    31 I wrote my husband a sappy card for valentine's day. I even used a pink pen. Nothing funny or sarcastic, just a bunch of sentimental shit about how I love him. Ugh, I hate sentimental shit. But I knew he'd like it. <3

    Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (rWZ8Y)

    32 OMG.. the giraffe GIF.. I can't stop watching. lmao!

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (dUJdY)

    33 > personal worth measured in number of 'lays'

    Bet you can't eat just one.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (t+qrx)

    34

    Graceful giraffe is graceful.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (HaL55)

    35 I hope that poor giraffe is okay...
    Posted by: lin-duh


    Bet he wakes up with a stiff neck.

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (P1f+c)

    36 If giraffe sex is a pain in the neck you're doing it wrong.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (zmIJL)

    37 I wrote my husband a sappy card for valentine's day. I even used a pink pen. Nothing funny or sarcastic, just a bunch of sentimental shit about how I love him. Ugh, I hate sentimental shit. But I knew he'd like it.
    Posted by: Mrs. Peel


    Well... yeah.

    We're suckers for that stuff.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:58 PM (NLLmE)

    38 Giraffe looks like he was skiing a little too far back and his heels and flipped over a small hump.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 09:58 PM (I/iGu)

    39 How are we going to save Ace?

    Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (uDcBt)

    40 to the fat fuck govner of illinois, zombie babe ruth called, hevwants his fucking hair back.

    Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (KP5rU)

    41 What I can't figure out is how whales fuck.

    No leverage at all.

    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (NLLmE)

    42 Bet he wakes up with a stiff neck.

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 09:57 PM (P1f+c)


    As it looks like a case of coitus interruptus, a stiff neck is not the only thing that giraffe will have in the morning.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (Y8PSl)

    43


    There's a good reason why that giraffe won't be reproducing.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (HaL55)

    44 Is 4-Chan Making Sense One Of The Signs Of The Apocalypse?

    --Some points will be themes in my upcoming novel.

    Just sayin', as the kids say.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (e7oj4)

    45 I tend to fall on the "back the blue" side of the equation, I think most conservatives do, but it's not unquestioning and it's not blanket. This is one of the most egregious violations of police authority that I have ever seen. This isn't law enforcement, it's thuggery.


    Body camera video shows man tased 11 times by officers in Arizona

    They held him down and tased his balls. How are these cops not in jail?


    How can you say such terrible things about our heroes in blue? Don't you want us to be safe? Why do you hate law enforcement? Why do you hate America?

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 09:59 PM (NWiLs)

    46 My husband really does like that kind of thing. Especially from me, because he knows it's outside my comfort zone.

    Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (rWZ8Y)

    47 I've seen a lot of people whining about the continuing resolution, and my question to them is simply this: What was his alternative? Shut down the government forever?

    Divided government is the reality. Deal with it.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (cfSRQ)

    48 I just showed my husband the giraffe thing. He can't stop laughing.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (dUJdY)

    49 Until one understands that Booker T Washington quote, one is wandering in the darkness.


    You may not win, but you need to have the mindset you can win. All victories begin between the ears.


    Otherwise, you might as well just be another Democrat.


    Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (sy5kK)

    50 They held him down and tased his balls.

    For free?! Do you know what I charge for that?

    Posted by: Mistress Morganna at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (P1f+c)

    51 Because we're a Third World country now, with Third World police?

    Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

    I wonder if current third world countries had similar foreshadowings twenty years ago that they were "becoming" third world countries? What will we think about America twenty years from now?

    Posted by: jayhawkone at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (ZD+J8)

    52 The 4Chan post is a summary of Romans 1:18-32.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (WNAuL)

    53 My husband really does like that kind of thing. Especially from me, because he knows it's outside my comfort zone.

    ------

    You taze him in the balls too?

    Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (vIjh1)

    54 Someone should send those people in Siberia a few cases of White Claw. That should chill the bears out.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 10:02 PM (gkstg)

    55 Harvey Weinstein is really a giraffe?

    Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2019 10:02 PM (sy5kK)

    56 Posted before . . .

    Here is how brilliant Hungary's strategy is.

    Trumpsters, take notes.

    https://youtu.be/3Z4woNYMyz8

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 10:02 PM (e7oj4)

    57 47
    What was his alternative? Shut down the government forever?
    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (cfSRQ)


    It moved.

    Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2019 10:03 PM (sdi6R)

    58 Nice job on the ONT, Weird Dave. You hit a home run with jungle love.

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:03 PM (vBjuR)

    59 25
    Still giggling like a schoolgirl about "Donkey Chompers"
    Posted by: fixerupper at February 15, 2019 09:55 PM (vIjh1)

    So am I

    Posted by: AOC's boyfriend at February 15, 2019 10:03 PM (e7oj4)

    60 After today I know we can all use a laugh.
    Trump tweeted out this video of the Dem meltdown during the SOTU. Be sure to watch it to the end.


    https://tinyurl.com/y489bnes

    Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 10:04 PM (hECVl)

    61 Hey everybody.

    Ooo boy. My new job (started 11/23) isn't going great.

    My 'big boss' (who's in another office a few miles away) has developed a nervous tic every time someone mentions ours to him...

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:05 PM (miE9U)

    62 Say what you will about Muslims, but when we were on the (very overcrowded, hot and un-airconditioned) train from CdG to Pairs, every time an older lady got on, all the younger men we were sitting around jumped up to offer their seats, and helped her if she was carrying anything. And I am sure they were Muslim, because the young ladies they were with wore hijabs. Not full on bags, but their heads were covered.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:05 PM (VLXcj)

    63 Save Ace? You mean like everyone pitching in to send him a stripper gram who also knows how to install shelves?

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 10:05 PM (I/iGu)

    64 Poor giraffe.

    Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 10:05 PM (LJUs+)

    65 Nice job on the ONT, Weird Dave. You hit a home run with jungle love.
    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:03 PM (vBjuR)


    Wonderful bumper sticker idea, ALH.

    I HIT A HOME RUN
    WITH JUNGLE LOVE

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:06 PM (t+qrx)

    66 46
    My husband really does like that kind of thing. Especially from me, because he knows it's outside my comfort zone.

    Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (rWZ8Y)

    ---
    Good for you! I hope he appreciates the effort.

    My wife made me a delicious steak and I *absolutely* let her know how much I appreciated it.

    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2019 10:06 PM (cfSRQ)

    67 58 Nice job on the ONT, Weird Dave. You hit a home run with jungle love.
    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:03 PM (vBjuR)

    It's driving me mad. It's making me crazy.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 10:06 PM (NWiLs)

    68 Whale sex is probably just as awkward as Soviet Cosmonaut sex.

    Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 15, 2019 10:06 PM (I/iGu)

    69 I've read the Odious RBG has "returned to work" at Supreme Court...


    Has anyone reported if it was open casket, or no?

    Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 15, 2019 10:07 PM (CLcKT)

    70 Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 10:04 PM (hECVl)

    lmfao!! Romney's face!!

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:07 PM (dUJdY)

    71
    I wonder if current third world countries had
    similar foreshadowings twenty years ago that they were "becoming" third
    world countries? What will we think about America twenty years from now?


    Posted by: jayhawkone at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (ZD+J

    Are YOU talking to ME?

    Posted by: Venezuela at February 15, 2019 10:07 PM (sy5kK)

    72 I just hit the tipjar, and pledge to continue hitting it at least monthly. These cockslaps need to go down, and that means supporting everyone willing to go after them. A shipmate once told me, "Anger just makes you tired. But Hatred? Hatred can move mountains."

    I'm ready to move mountains.

    Posted by: Reactor Axe Man at February 15, 2019 10:08 PM (h2cX8)

    73 We don't need a new conservatism. We have over two hundred years of tradition in America alone, not to mention world history. We need more leaders who won't back down, won't compromise their principles and who will push back against the insanity that leftist espouses, whatever they call it. Leaders that believe in and will fight for free people, free markets; leaders that believe in and will fight for the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble to the Constitution the Bill of Rights.

    Just like in any war, you start fighting for hearts and minds and concurrently fight for one piece of ground - i.e. institution - at a time.
    Trump is the only American politician I see doing this.

    I have a useful analogy, the republicans are like Cuba and the democrats are like the Soviet Union. Both Cuba the Soviet Union are evil, but the Soviets, aka democrats, are the greater threat to free people free markets. The democrats must be thwarted at every turn until they are crushed.


    Posted by: Locke Common at February 15, 2019 10:08 PM (Ry2UI)

    74 This week on the show "Man With a Plan" Kevin Nealon's character made a "Peruvia" joke, and in my heart of hearts I really want to believe this was because either he, or a show's writer, are Ace fans and they remember when he helped explain to us all the facts about Toure's favorite majestic alpine country.

    Posted by: Rbastid at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (XwTyM)

    75 The media is our enemy. Just remember that.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (dUJdY)

    76
    My husband really does like that kind of thing. Especially from me, because he knows it's outside my comfort zone.

    Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (rWZ8Y

    =====

    Are you speaking for the female giraffe here?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (13CQC)

    77 But Hatred? Hatred can move mountains."

    I'm ready to move mountains.
    Posted by: Reactor Axe Man at February 15, 2019 10:08 PM (h2cX


    Truth.

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (vBjuR)

    78 I said I wanted some tall tail not a fall fail.

    Posted by: the giraffe at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (UdKB7)

    79 I went to the grocery store after work yesterday to pick up a prescription, and it was a mob scene. You have to enter through the flower section, and enlightenment bloomed upon sight of the roses. It's been so long since I've had a valentine other than my dog. A truer, purer love has never been known.

    Posted by: Beltway Elite at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (b6kHD)

    80 I wonder if current third world countries had
    similar foreshadowings twenty years ago that they were "becoming" third
    world countries? What will we think about America twenty years from now?


    Posted by: jayhawkone at February 15, 2019 10:01 PM (ZD+J



    Well there really is not an escape hatch from the third world. No graduation path.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (ZfRYq)

    81 I moved in with my Dad a couple of months ago and had to quit my job to be able to care for him 24/7. Hospice is helping to keep us both going. He fought in Korea and always wore his Korean Vet hat proudly when we would leave the house. We are past going anywhere these days though. He still enjoys his Manhattan at 4pm and tonight as we watched the news, he said America is over. The Democrats have lost their minds, College grads our supposed next batch of leaders are nitwits, our Intelligence and Justice Depts are corrupt, Clinton's and Co. can openly break the law and keep on cheating the American people and Kaepernik gets 60 Million bucks for being an asshole. We are done and there isn't a damn thing any of us can or will do about it. It's over. I suggested we just quit watching the news moving forward. He agreed and is watching Gunsmoke and asked me to make him a second drink.

    Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (Z0huu)

    82 Trump tweeted out this video of the Dem meltdown during the SOTU. Be sure to watch it to the end.

    https://tinyurl.com/y489bnes
    Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 10:04 PM (hECVl)


    Oh, you weren't kidding. Very nice little cameo there.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (t+qrx)

    83 Did you know there are 4 species of giraffe and they all look completely identical? I hate science.

    Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (jXrK7)

    84
    When I took Miley out to dinner last night, there was this Millennial couple, ~25ish or so, who were seated shortly after us.

    Miley's back was to them, so couldn't see it, but Princess came in, yakking on her smart phone. She sat down and continued to yak, then stopped talking and starting thumbing and texting. She did put the phone away when dinner was served.

    The dude just sat there, and didn't seem to be bothered.

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f1Vqw)

    85 Posted by: Locke Common at February 15, 2019 10:08 PM (Ry2UI)

    Graft is a very powerful motivator calling seductively from the dark side!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (Pj7+0)

    86 Evening all.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (z9Eyh)

    87 Dearest God, but I hate moving! Especially from the country into the city. Not a lot of choice, though, after Mr. Empire's fall -- need to be closer to emergency services and medical help. Still ... YUCK!

    At least I signed the lease today, and got the utilities transferred to my name. Got movers coming in Tuesday. Already got quite a bit of stuff packed.

    No fun, but getting it done. Some time I may figure out how he always manages to be out of action (overseas, or as now, in rehab) when moving work needs to be done...

    Posted by: empire1 at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (JRThi)

    88 20 I hate sharp knives.

    ?? There is no better kind.

    Posted by: April at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM (OX9vb)

    89 ***TOP FIVE NAMES WE HERE AT THE HORDE WILL BE CALLING AOC WITHIN A YEAR***

    5. [tie] "The woman who makes Cher look like a Nobel Laureate in Economics", or "TWWMCLLANLIE"

    4. "SILF"

    3. "La Cholo-ette"

    2. "JEC" (jug-eared c... you get the idea)

    1. "Chonkey Dompers"

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM (miE9U)

    90 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 09:51 PM (6a9Py)

    How did yesterday go?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM (z9Eyh)

    91 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f1Vqw)

    Shouldn't you be off tending to Her Grace's birthday needs?

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM (VLXcj)

    92 Hey there, Emperor Country Boy.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:13 PM (t+qrx)

    93 Hope tha poor giraffe didn't break his neck.

    Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 15, 2019 10:14 PM (jm1YL)

    94 The media is our enemy. Just remember that.
    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (dUJdY)[i/]

    & the GOP Establishment!

    I didn't include the Democrat Socialists because we all knew that already!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 15, 2019 10:14 PM (Pj7+0)

    95 He agreed and is watching Gunsmoke and asked me to make him a second drink.
    Posted by: StellasTwoCents

    Always a solid plan.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 10:15 PM (gkstg)

    96 Hope tha poor giraffe didn't break his neck.

    Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.
    Posted by: Tuna


    From the "it's all about me" generation?
    I can believe it.


    Evening all.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:15 PM (nMj2X)

    97 Shut down the government forever?

    Divided government is the reality. Deal with it.
    Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM (cfSRQ)

    Yes. Shut the fucker down. Make people scream. Most of them are Democrat scum anyways.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:15 PM (z9Eyh)

    98 Good evening.

    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (/cL3k)

    99 AOC and her SJW cohort are the Left's Red Guards, who will be useful for a time.

    Then, they will be rounded up and beaten down.

    I am amused how little they know of their own history.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (oVJmc)

    100

    I hate sharp knives.



    ?? There is no better kind.


    A dull knife is a safety hazard. Which reminds me, I need to touch up the edge on the knife B'Gal gave me a couple of years ago. Did I mention she was raised in PR?

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (HaL55)

    101 You can never go wrong watching Gunsmoke. And Miss Kitty was a babe.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (dUJdY)

    102 Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.
    Posted by: Tuna at February 15, 2019 10:14 PM (jm1YL)


    She didn't cling, she just kind of bounced off it onto the pavement. And the Secret Service was ready to go; they heaved her into the back of that van like a sack of gin-soaked gravel.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (t+qrx)

    103 How did yesterday go?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM

    ....

    Quite well!

    I got a kiss on the cheek and a text today to do something tomorrow night.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (6a9Py)

    104 ''From the "it's all about me" generation?
    I can believe it. ''

    Bad parenting.

    Posted by: Tuna at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (jm1YL)

    105 Re the bus photo, look at the puny arms of the clown with the baseball hat. My wife's arms have more tone than that.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (Jzd7W)

    106 Now that PDT has declared his emergency, Pelosi is REALLY playing dirty!

    She's threatening to visit the WH without her Depends on.

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (miE9U)

    107 98 Good evening.
    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (/cL3k)

    Hiya

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:17 PM (vBjuR)

    108 ***TOP FIVE NAMES WE HERE AT THE HORDE WILL BE CALLING AOC WITHIN A YEAR***

    5. [tie] "The woman who makes Cher look like a Nobel Laureate in Economics", or "TWWMCLLANLIE"

    4. "SILF"

    3. "La Cholo-ette"

    2. "JEC" (jug-eared c... you get the idea)

    1. "Chonkey Dompers"
    Posted by: qdpsteve


    Nina Pinata.

    Because every time she opens her mouth, you want to take an axe handle and beat her.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM (nMj2X)

    109 Don't you want us to be safe? Why do you hate law enforcement?

    After the most recent thousand page abomination from the District of Criminals, it is painfully obvious that no one wants to be safe - they prefer us dead, hopefully with a long train of misery and strife along the way.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM (lD3vL)

    110 I suspect that one or more of those kids would have offered up their seat had they somehow been torn away from their phone long enough to notice the lady.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM (VLXcj)

    111 rickb223, hmmm :-)

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (miE9U)

    112 I would have preferred that the President demanded the removal of the poison pills in the budget bill, but understand why he did what he did. I am not going to second-guess the only president since Reagan who has fought for me and mine.

    Since President Reagan left office, there have been countless pretenders wishing to claim the mantle of Reagan while doing the absolute minimum to deserve it. This town is chock-full of fakers who are at best conserva-tish--having sold out long ago to global corporations, or to careerism or are in fact crypto-leftists themselves.

    Democrats, who have been anti-American since Vietnam, have moved on; they are now post-American. The only time they get excited is about foreigners. They have little use for actual Americans. They want to dissolve ICE, dissolve citizenship, dissolve borders and dissolve the People, and elect themselves a new one. One that will in turn elect them permanently and forever, under the Swamp's Complete Theft of Every Election in America.

    This was never going to be easy. The rot has gone too deep for too long. They came so close with their Jezebel, they thought their coup against George Washington's Peaceful Transfer of Power was a done deal. That's why they're so desperate. Their false god is dying before their eyes.

    By his honest patriotism, communications skilz and his defense of American traditions, President Trump has inherited President Reagan's mantle without even trying. Let's help this man.

    Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (Ndje9)

    113 When I took Miley out to dinner last night, there was this Millennial couple, ~25ish or so, who were seated shortly after us.

    Miley's back was to them, so couldn't see it, but Princess came in, yakking on her smart phone. She sat down and continued to yak, then stopped talking and starting thumbing and texting. She did put the phone away when dinner was served.

    The dude just sat there, and didn't seem to be bothered.
    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f1Vqw)


    He should have left surreptitiously, and stuck her with the bill.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (Jzd7W)

    114

    She's threatening to visit the WH without her Depends on.

    I'd like to see the HazMat team from Monsters Inc. descend on her.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (HaL55)

    115 The ballz tasing pales in comparison to an unfolding scandal here in the Houston area.

    Houston undercover P.D. officers raid a house. Two suspects DRT, five Officers wounded. One of those still in the hospital.

    This was a couple weeks back, made big news, even the national networks.

    And now?

    There was NO "confidential informant", no black-tar heroin found, only a tiny bit of weed and trace amount some un-identified powder.

    So, the undercover cop falsified an affidavit for a no-knock warrant.

    Homeowner was 28 year resident, former Marine (IIRC), salt of the earth, according to his neighbors.

    Went down fighting, against what surely looked like a home invasion mob. Guy's wife went down fighting for her man, too.

    All five cops survived. NOT all five are going to survive the coming prosecutions.

    The shit storm is coming there, and it's gonna rain HARD on at least one or two of those officers.


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (QzJWU)

    116 Now that PDT has declared his emergency, Pelosi is REALLY playing dirty!

    She's threatening to visit the WH without her Depends on.
    Posted by: qdpsteve

    Hillary's joining her. They're staging a shart-in.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (gkstg)

    117 /ginger soy boy sock

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (e7oj4)

    118 Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM (Z0huu)

    My heart is breaking. I am so glad he has you.

    Posted by: April at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (OX9vb)

    119 Now that PDT has declared his emergency, Pelosi is REALLY playing dirty!

    She's threatening to visit the WH without her Depends on.
    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (miE9U)

    Posted by: Surfperch at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (tVQUs)

    120 suspect that one or more of those kids would have offered up their seat had they somehow been torn away from their phone long enough to notice the lady.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


    They were all pretending to be too engrossed in their phones.

    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (ykYG2)

    121 Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (Ndje9)

    THIS.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (Jzd7W)

    122 Robert!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (VLXcj)

    123 So apparently the trucking company I work for has deemed me minimally qualified that I could pass out of driver training and get assigned my own truck. I start my first solo run tomorrow.

    My first delivery will be to a bid'ness in Conyers, Georgia.

    Nervous as a muh'fucker.

    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (/cL3k)

    124 Robert!
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (VLXcj)

    MA!

    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (/cL3k)

    125 >> Shouldn't you be off tending to Her Grace's birthday needs?

    I have. I bought her a deep fryer and a new mop.

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (f1Vqw)

    126

    Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.
    Posted by: Tuna at February 15, 2019 10:14 PM (jm1YL)


    I thought she was a zombie.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (1g7ch)

    127
    The shit storm is coming there, and it's gonna rain HARD on at least one or two of those officers.


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2019 10:19 PM (QzJWU

    ====

    I read a little something about that case. The guy who designed the operation had lied under oath or something years before... some sort of corruption.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (13CQC)

    128 ***TOP FIVE NAMES WE HERE AT THE HORDE WILL BE CALLING AOC WITHIN A YEAR***

    5. [tie] "The woman who makes Cher look like a Nobel Laureate in Economics", or "TWWMCLLANLIE"

    4. "SILF"

    3. "La Cholo-ette"

    2. "JEC" (jug-eared c... you get the idea)

    1. "Chonkey Dompers"
    Posted by: qdpsteve


    Nina Pinata.

    Because every time she opens her mouth, you want to take an axe handle and beat her.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM

    Francesca Dolarhyde. She could star in the chick remake of 'Red Dragon' with no need of Grandma's dentures.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (zmIJL)

    129 110 I suspect that one or more of those kids would have offered up their seat had they somehow been torn away from their phone long enough to notice the lady.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM (VLXcj)


    I'd like to think so, too. I kinda doubt it, but ...

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:22 PM (Jzd7W)

    130 Quite well!

    I got a kiss on the cheek and a text today to do something tomorrow night.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 10:16 PM (6a9Py)

    Dude!! Way to go. I'm just gonna love vicariously thru the HQ lovebirds.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:22 PM (z9Eyh)

    131 All five cops survived. NOT all five are going to survive the coming prosecutions.

    The shit storm is coming there, and it's gonna rain HARD on at least one or two of those officers.


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX
    Posted by: Jim


    Praying hard that it does. That shit has to stop.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:22 PM (nMj2X)

    132 I have. I bought her a deep fryer and a new mop.
    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (f1Vqw)

    When are you going to put a ring on it?

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (vBjuR)

    133 They were all pretending to be too engrossed in their phones.
    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (ykYG2)


    Yeah, because standing up when you're in your 20s is such a bitch.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (Jzd7W)

    134 JuJuBee: maybe AOC could be called Jawsette... :-P
    (Remember Richard Kiel in those Bond flicks?)

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (miE9U)

    135 Hey there, Emperor Country Boy.
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:13 PM (t+qrx)

    Hey there. Staying warm?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (z9Eyh)

    136 I don't wanna get any shit started and I am as sick of the Black Lives Matters crap as anyone, but y'all can kind of see why plenty of black folks have always been just a little leery of cops?
    I will still believe the cops initially, but I always keep an open mind, both ways. Far more good cops than bad, but far more bad then we like to believe.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (VLXcj)

    137 Those silly kids in the bus have no situational awareness at all. Pay attention to your surroundings!!

    Posted by: IC at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (LJUs+)

    138 The mop is short on opposable thumbs.

    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 10:24 PM (ykYG2)

    139
    My first delivery will be to a bid'ness in Conyers, Georgia.

    Nervous as a muh'fucker.

    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (/cL3k)

    ====

    Go Robert! You'll jump in tomorrow night and tell us how it went, right?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:24 PM (13CQC)

    140 maybe AOC could be called Jawsette... :-P

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (miE9U)

    Maybe just Jaws?

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:24 PM (vBjuR)

    141 I've read over the years something to the effect "A dull knife is dangerous", and to keep knives sharp for that reason alone. Supposedly, the story goes, a dull knife will slip, or something, and then you presumably get cut.

    I like a sharp knife, but I am not persuaded that they are safer, whenever I cut myself with a sharp knife it's always a lot worse, because, you know, it's sharp as fuck.


    Posted by: Common Tater at February 15, 2019 10:25 PM (ADkUh)

    142 ALH, thanks works too :-)

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:25 PM (miE9U)

    143 Cops release 2 suspects without charges in the Jessie Smollet case.
    This gets stranger by the day.

    Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 10:25 PM (hECVl)

    144 124 Robert!
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (VLXcj)

    MA!
    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (/cL3k)

    Wait, for reals?

    Posted by: April at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (OX9vb)

    145 My first delivery will be to a bid'ness in Conyers, Georgia.

    Nervous as a muh'fucker.
    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (/cL3k)


    Congratulations, and best wishes. You'll do fine.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (t+qrx)

    146 Someone with better Photoshop skills than me, should do a mock-up of the classic JAWS poster with AOC in place of the shark...

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (miE9U)

    147 Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (/cL3k)

    Big rig? Hope like hell you don't have to drive to Missouri anytime soon.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (dUJdY)

    148

    OK Hordelings, short night tonight, but not as short as that giraffe's tryst.


    B'Gal wants to watch the truck race.


    Y'all try to behave.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (HaL55)

    149 We have a fun "Back the Blue" story here too.

    Black guy, 18, from a dope-dealing family gets stopped. Cop gets him out for driving while black, notices kid is walking funny.

    Asks kid if he has put crack up his rectum, kid says no. Cop doesn't believe him, takes kid to ER. Tells ER doctor to give kid something to make him sh*t, ER administers meds, kid still doesn't expel suspected drugs.

    Cop conspires with ER doc, they medically paralyze kid to the point that they have to put him on a ventilator to keep him breathing to get him to finally relax his butt cheeks.

    Finally obtain a vial with $30 worth of crack.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (6a9Py)

    150
    No fun, but getting it done. Some time I may figure out how he always manages to be out of action (overseas, or as now, in rehab) when moving work needs to be done...

    Posted by: empire1 at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (JRThi

    =====

    Hang in there, empire1.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (13CQC)

    151 Someone with better Photoshop skills than me, should do a mock-up of the classic JAWS poster with AOC in place of the shark...
    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM

    Dear God that's terrifying to contemplate.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (zmIJL)

    152 I have. I bought her a deep fryer and a new mop.
    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (f1Vqw)

    When are you going to put a ring on it?
    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (vBjuR)

    Which "it?"

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (z9Eyh)

    153 Hey there. Staying warm?
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (z9Eyh)


    For the moment, yep. And you?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (t+qrx)

    154 Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (/cL3k)

    If I had only known, I'd have met you there and brought you a sammie.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (VLXcj)

    155 Emperor Country Boy,
    Sorry to bug you but I have a question I was gonna ask last night while you, Hogmartin, etc. were discussing Michigan locations but I nodded off.
    You were saying you grew up somewhat north of Muskegon. Mind if I ask where? Full disclosure: I'm a Fremont native but I'm in New Mexico these days...

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (7s3Gx)

    156 Which "it?"
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (z9Eyh)


    I figured the mop, where are you going to put a ring on a fryer?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (t+qrx)

    157 "They held him down and tased his balls. How are these cops not in jail?"

    I guess it's my inner fascist, but I didn't like the looks or moves or attitude of tattoo guy any more than those cops did. Have we found his rap sheet yet?

    If there's a way to discourage lowlifes like that from hanging around where I live, I tend to be in favor of it. If I had a family to protect, I'd be even more favorable toward it.

    Cops have a sh!tty job. I wouldn't last an hour doing it. Bless them.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (mk9aG)

    158 Goodnight BB.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (dUJdY)

    159 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:21 PM (f1Vqw)

    I can only hope at her request?

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (VLXcj)

    160 What was his alternative? Shut down the government forever?

    In all seriousness, this ought to be considered.

    What we have learned is that the basic functions outlined in the US Constitution as to what the limited purpose of a federal government is to handle - have been ignored, if not rebelled against by that very government.

    The US military does not serve America's interest. Our foreign policy is decidedly anti-American, in that it is overtly hostile to the interests of American citizens. The borders are deliberately set open, our culture is under attack, and the Republican form of government has been replaced by a kleptocratic kakistocracy.

    Each state basically has its own identical functions of the FedGov: environmental protection, justice system, education, national guard, welfare, transportation, etc.

    The currency isn't even US currency, it is private bank notes - Federal Reserve.

    There honestly is no valid reason to have a Federal Government because whatever interests it serves, none of it is Constitutional nor compatible with American interests and founding principles.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (lD3vL)

    161 Dear God that's terrifying to contemplate.
    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (zmIJL)


    Well you certainly won't want to look at this, then.

    https://stoatnet.org/aoc.jpg

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:29 PM (t+qrx)

    162 Hey there. Staying warm?
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (z9Eyh)

    For the moment, yep. And you?
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (t+qrx)

    Was 82 here today. Walked 5 miles. Beautiful day.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:29 PM (z9Eyh)

    163 Smollett went trolling for booty in the middle of the night, didn't find any, and fell on his face in the ice. Then he made up some bullshit.

    It's the least strange story this year.

    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 10:29 PM (ykYG2)

    164 -
    --
    Someone with better Photoshop skills than me, should do a mock-up of the classic JAWS poster with AOC in place of the shark...


    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM

    ------------------------

    If the naked swimmer is Pelosi, I'm not gonna look at it.

    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 10:30 PM (RVcmP)

    165 Emperor Country Boy,
    Sorry to bug you but I have a question I was gonna ask last night while you, Hogmartin, etc. were discussing Michigan locations but I nodded off.
    You were saying you grew up somewhat north of Muskegon. Mind if I ask where? Full disclosure: I'm a Fremont native but I'm in New Mexico these days...
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (7s3Gx)

    Well howdy, old neighbor!

    I grew up in Holton.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:30 PM (z9Eyh)

    166
    Finally obtain a vial with $30 worth of crack.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (6a9Py

    =====

    From the amazing sphincter to the amount those medical measures must have cost to the petty payoff, that is one quaint little story.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:30 PM (13CQC)

    167 A cheap diamond manicure file works far better for sharpening the kitchen cutlery than any whet steel...

    Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 15, 2019 10:31 PM (CLcKT)

    168 "Trump hamstringing himself .." WHAT THE FUC* ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SOP Repubs are the ones cutting themselves. Trump is simply working with the blunt tools he has. Reminds me of your 2016 mindset when Trump supporters where routinely banned and the word "cuck" was prohibited. You'll never live that down flip-flop. Hey 'der Flip-Flop. That's your new handle. Like the jerky boys "Flap - Jack" Ha!

    Posted by: Muns at February 15, 2019 10:31 PM (3zkmw)

    169 If there's a way to discourage lowlifes like that from hanging around where I live, I tend to be in favor of it. If I had a family to protect, I'd be even more favorable toward it.

    Cops have a sh!tty job. I wouldn't last an hour doing it. Bless them.
    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (mk9aG)


    I think of cops dealing with the bums who are camping next to the Angels' stadium. I see those encampments whenever I take the train past them, and I think, "The cops truly are society's garbagemen." As such, I'm willing to cut them quite a bit of slack. Not an infinite amount, but quite a bit.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 10:31 PM (Jzd7W)

    170 Well you certainly won't want to look at this, then.

    https://stoatnet.org/aoc.jpg
    Posted by: hogmartin

    Looks like something from the darkest pits of hell.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 10:32 PM (gkstg)

    171 Well howdy, old neighbor!



    I grew up in Holton.

    I'll be damned. My folks, sister and I would pass through there on a regular basis heading on down to Muskegon and back. My father was born in Hart but, IIRC, grew up in North Muskegon.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:32 PM (7s3Gx)

    172 Anyone have an opinion on a .357 load from a company called HSM? It's a 180 grain, lead RNFP gas check "Bear Load".

    RNFP = Round Nose Flat Point

    Cabela's in-store selection of .357 ammo sucks ass. And no, no Buffalo Bore.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:32 PM (nMj2X)

    173 https://stoatnet.org/aoc.jpg
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:29 PM

    Whatever floats your stoat.

    I suggested earlier that Ace should sell sets of clattering teeth called Donkey Chompers.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:33 PM (zmIJL)

    174
    Well you certainly won't want to look at this, then.

    https://stoatnet.org/aoc.jpg
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:29 PM (t+qrx)


    Should be a way to morph AOC with a goblin shark.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 15, 2019 10:33 PM (1g7ch)

    175 "Anyone have an opinion on a .357 load from a company ..."

    Yes: Hand load.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:33 PM (mk9aG)

    176 where are you going to put a ring on a fryer?

    It goes down, down, down,
    The Ring on Fryer.

    Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2019 10:33 PM (oVJmc)

    177 Dude!! Way to go. I'm just gonna love vicariously thru the HQ lovebirds.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:22 PM

    ....

    Thanks!

    I can't say it would work for every guy, but I can honestly say taking a Valentine's first date to the range to shoot guns was one of the best ideas I've ever had.

    It was so not-awkward that it could not have been more fun and I got to show competence, which is always a check mark for a guy on a date.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 10:33 PM (6a9Py)

    178 95 He agreed and is watching Gunsmoke and asked me to make him a second drink.
    Posted by: StellasTwoCents

    If you get METV, Perry Mason is on at 9 AM and 11:30 PM.

    Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (+lVUW)

    179 120
    They were all pretending to be too engrossed in their phones.
    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 10:20 PM (ykYG2)
    -------------------------------------
    THIS.
    There is more to the nose-in-phone phenomenon than simple distraction.
    Sometimes people really ARE interested in what is on their phone for its own sake, but just as often the phones are used as an "excuse" to disengage and avoid.

    Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (Rxduq)

    180 When are you going to put a ring on it?

    Posted by: ALH at February 15, 2019 10:23 PM (vBjuR)

    He put a ring in the bathtub.

    Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (NMAzL)

    181  So the first law suit has been filed against the Emerg Order. 

    Yay More lawyers. 

    Amazing how the judiciary, law enforcement and journalism deservesly get shit on on this site in big sweeping strokes, but the entire legal profession which has almost single-handedly fucked up America' beyond recognition... skates. 

    Except for the occasional CPL type.

    Fucking glass houses. How do they work?? 

    Posted by: mikeyG at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (iY8NM)

    182 84


    When I took Miley out to dinner last night, there was this
    Millennial couple, ~25ish or so, who were seated shortly after us.



    Miley's back was to them, so couldn't see it, but Princess came
    in, yakking on her smart phone. She sat down and continued to yak, then
    stopped talking and starting thumbing and texting. She did put the phone
    away when dinner was served.



    The dude just sat there, and didn't seem to be bothered.

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f1Vqw)



    He's probably glad he didn't have to talk to her but was going to get a little bit later on.

    Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (fdTrp)

    183 >> I can only hope at her request?

    The mop was a joke, but I did get a deep fryer. Also, some green tomatoes. I'm going to see what she thinks of fried green tomatoes.

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (f1Vqw)

    184 That Giraffe is like a large, liver-spotted metaphor.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (GdNri)

    185 Well, I'm gonna crawl into my nice warm bed and channel surf.

    Night everyone.. Stay safe.

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:35 PM (dUJdY)

    186 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:24 PM (13CQC)

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (t+qrx)

    Posted by: Jewells45 at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (dUJdY)

    Thanks youse guyz!

    Wait, for reals?
    Posted by: April at February 15, 2019 10:26 PM (OX9vb)

    *Snerk*

    If I had only known, I'd have met you there and brought you a sammie.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:27 PM (VLXcj)

    How about an Ashley or a Jennifer?

    Oh...wait...not what you meant...

    Posted by: Robert at February 15, 2019 10:35 PM (/cL3k)

    187 I can only hope at her request?


    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (VLXcj)

    He's lying - I didn't get a mop.

    Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 15, 2019 10:35 PM (NMAzL)

    188 I've never been to Muskegon but I know it as the place where vaudevillians spent the summer, way back when.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:36 PM (zmIJL)

    189 French fry quality ratings graph, per the LA Times:

    https://tinyurl.com/y2uvww9p

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:36 PM (miE9U)

    190
    I guess it's my inner fascist, but I didn't like the looks or moves or attitude of tattoo guy any more than those cops did. Have we found his rap sheet yet?

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:28 PM (mk9aG)

    ======

    I didn't like their looks, but those cops belong in jail.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:36 PM (13CQC)

    191 but the entire legal profession which has almost single-handedly fucked up America' beyond recognition... skates.

    Except for the occasional CPL type.

    Fucking glass houses. How do they work??
    Posted by: mikeyG


    How many times can you say, "the first thing we do is kill all lawyers"?

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:37 PM (nMj2X)

    192 Nina Pinata.

    Because every time she opens her mouth, you want to take an axe handle and beat her.
    Posted by: rickb223


    I'll bet Cuomo and DeBlasio would like to beat her with an axe handle.

    Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2019 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

    193 If there's a way to discourage lowlifes like that from hanging around where I live, I tend to be in favor of it. If I had a family to protect, I'd be even more favorable toward it.

    A half life-time ago, I remember a bunch of long serving Dallas PD officers (now retired) who were lamenting how city politics ruined their jobs and their effectiveness.

    Relative to this topic, one retold the story of how the duty sergeant while assigning the shift goals, BOLOs and other pep talk might utter "I need some of you to take care of an auto theft problem in the north-west". Which was code for: when you find these known transgressors, work them over so that they can think about how they are wasting their life while in traction at the local hospital.

    So they would make this ball tazing thing look like playground grabass in comparison. When, after convalescing, the crims would likely relocate to a suburb and become someone else's problem.

    But the Dallas PD would reduce the complaints for auto theft.

    Sometimes delivering the occasional tuneup with the Old Hickory Wood Shampoo and a Capsaisan Facewash is the only thing that some folks respond to.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:38 PM (lD3vL)

    194 191 but the entire legal profession which has almost single-handedly fucked up America' beyond recognition... skates.

    Except for the occasional CPL type.

    Fucking glass houses. How do they work??
    Posted by: mikeyG


    How many times can you say, "the first thing we do is kill all lawyers"?
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:37 PM (nMj2X)

    *sigh*

    Fine, but I'm not gonna make it easy for you.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 10:38 PM (NWiLs)

    195 >>Nina Pinata.


    Columbus had a third ship, too.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 10:39 PM (GdNri)

    196
    Has Trump signed the poison pill spending bill, or is it still just talk?

    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 15, 2019 10:39 PM (t5m5e)

    197 How many times can you say, "the first thing we do is kill all lawyers"?

    Before a lawyer cries and says he is being oppressed?


    Once.

    Posted by: mikeyG at February 15, 2019 10:39 PM (iY8NM)

    198 "I didn't like their looks, but those cops belong in jail."

    Probably, but I hope there's three good cop candidates available to replace them. The more of them that you jail, the harder it is to recruit new ones.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (mk9aG)

    199 I'll bet Cuomo and DeBlasio would like to beat her with an axe handle.
    Posted by: nerdygirl


    Iirc, DeBlasio was all in with her. Cuomo wanted to strangle her.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (nMj2X)

    200 Good evening.

    The end of a tough week.

    To top it off, I upgraded to Mac OS 10.13.6 and regretted it at once.

    After pulling some hair, cursing in numerous languages, and swearing deep sea oaths to stop upgrading, I am reinstalling from my Time Machine. Only another 5 hours to go to get my old system back.

    On my MacBook Air, and I want to see my Nic.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (u82oZ)

    201 At this point, Trump is operating under almost a siege scenario.
    He can only do what he can do by operating around the peripherals.
    I watched his press conference today, and I think I admire him more now than ever before.. just because of the level of opposition he is facing.
    But.. he waited too long to oppose the status quo. He should have never signed one budget or CR without getting his priorities included. And now the House is in the hands of the opposition. He should have resisted 18 months ago.
    So much for the art of the deal..
    It will be a tough couple of years.

    Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (438dO)

    202 I think those cops should be flogged through the fleet and/or forced to run a gauntlet comprised of hardened criminals.

    I do note, however, that tazing folks in the balls is precisely why tazers were invented in the first place.

    Any law enforcement use is purely ancillary.

    Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2019 10:41 PM (RIKJa)

    203 NaCly Dog, you're not willing to be a guinea pig for Mac OS Mojave? ;-)

    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:41 PM (miE9U)

    204 The more of them that you jail, the harder it is to recruit new ones.

    Recruitment is such a problem now, that previous drug offenses and jail time are no longer an impediment to getting the badge.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:41 PM (lD3vL)

    205 Well howdy, old neighbor!



    I grew up in Holton.
    I'll be damned. My folks, sister and I would pass through there on a regular basis heading on down to Muskegon and back. My father was born in Hart but, IIRC, grew up in North Muskegon.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:32 PM (7s3Gx)

    I don't get up there much anymore. My best friend owns one of the funeral homes there and lives on Fremont lake.

    My sister lived there until recently, she's been with Gerber/Novartis forever but they just moved her to Cleveland.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:42 PM (z9Eyh)

    206 Fine, but I'm not gonna make it easy for you.
    Posted by: Insomniac


    I'd never try. Just trying to show him that we bang on lawyers too. They don't get a special pass here.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:42 PM (nMj2X)

    207 I've never been to Muskegon but I know it as the place where vaudevillians spent the summer, way back when.
    Nope, don't remember that stuff but I'm old enough to remember the odor of the paper mill letting us know we were getting close.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:42 PM (7s3Gx)

    208
    Probably, but I hope there's three good cop candidates available to replace them. The more of them that you jail, the harder it is to recruit new ones.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (mk9aG

    ======


    The more criminal cops you jail, the fewer criminals will apply?

    I hope the recruits won't demand to see a *passenger's* ID. wtf?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:42 PM (13CQC)

    209 I was thinking about how to support the blog, and I saw a little bit about Amazon referrals. I got the impression that the blog does not have that right now. Can someone enlighten me?
    Because, it would be cool to have a thread once a week of Moron Product Recommendations. Repeats of products from thread to thread wouldn't be a problem because thats a good endorsement. And it could be an open thread or whatever.
    Someone said that I bet, but I skip the content and the comments that aren't mine.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 10:43 PM (JkygK)

    210 Yeah..that second drink did the trick. I didn't understand a word he said as I tucked him in for the night. I found a bottle of McClelands Lowland Scotch in the back of the the booze cabinet. Taste's pretty good. Not sure if it's a "premium" but it's smooth.

    Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 15, 2019 10:43 PM (Z0huu)

    211 Has Trump signed the poison pill spending bill, or is it still just talk?
    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 15, 2019 10:39 PM (t5m5e)

    Yes, it's signed. Unless he signed it FU rather than his signature, which would be hilarious.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 10:43 PM (Rz2Nc)

    212 Fuck all the cute and sexy paralegals.

    Posted by: literally serious at February 15, 2019 10:43 PM (MwiFE)

    213 To top it off, I upgraded to Mac OS 10.13.6 and regretted it at once.
    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (u82oZ)


    What, in particular, was the issue, and what did you try before the rollback?

    Also, can I borrow the Time Machine when you're done with it? Got some things I need to sort out.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:43 PM (t+qrx)

    214 I don't get up there much anymore. My best friend owns one of the funeral homes there and lives on Fremont lake.



    My sister lived there until recently, she's been with Gerber/Novartis forever but they just moved her to Cleveland.
    ...Wouldn't be a Crandall, would he? And my father was Gerber's head instrument tech for about twenty years, but he retired a pretty fair stretch back and has since passed on...

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:44 PM (7s3Gx)

    215 I tend to be a law and order for the cops type, too.

    But....

    Just an example - my wife got a ticket for running a red light. It's a turn where there is a green arrow. The cop was on the other side of where she turned. He wrote her the ticket though he could not observe the signal from where he was. He said that the sequence of the lights went in a way that she had gone on red.

    So we went up there and videod the light sequence and she took it to court. It was NOT what the cop said it was.

    Judge dismissed the charge.

    But in the cases prior to that, the judge took the cops word over ever other defendant.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 10:44 PM (ZfRYq)

    216 The more of them that you jail, the harder it is to recruit new ones.

    Recruitment is such a problem now, that previous drug offenses and jail time are no longer an impediment to getting the badge.
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy


    Still don't know why you need a 4 yr college degree to arrest someone who didn't finish 7th grade.
    Yeah. I was a prison guard at 19.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:44 PM (nMj2X)

    217 Has Trump signed the poison pill spending bill, or is it still just talk?
    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 15, 2019 10:39 PM (t5m5e)


    Yes.

    Seen elsewhere where the whole thing expires at the end of the FY.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 15, 2019 10:44 PM (1g7ch)

    218 Crap. Nothing I'm doing is inserting the proper line breaks. Stupid Quantum Firef*cks browser.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:45 PM (7s3Gx)

    219
    Posted by: NaCly Dog
    ................
    As a software developer, I hear from clients that they no way are gonna load the latest update.. not until other clients have loaded and are satisfied.. and a month or so has passed,,
    I empathize with them and never disagree.. I tell them to watch the support forums..

    Unfortunately, we run across luddites who haven't updated their software in 7 years! oh well..

    Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 15, 2019 10:45 PM (438dO)

    220 I'd never try. Just trying to show him that we bang on lawyers too. They don't get a special pass here

    Nah. Too many lawyer commenters .

    Not good for business.

    Hell, ace is a lawyer. It's the single blind spot in an otherwise perfect blog.

    Posted by: mikeyG at February 15, 2019 10:45 PM (iY8NM)

    221 Yes, it's signed.

    Time to go underground. The Enemy is now looking to take casualties.

    The country is wrecked beyond repair. I need to ignore what is going on in government just assume that it is profoundly evil with a demonic intent to cause as much irreversible damage as possible.

    Maranatha

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:46 PM (lD3vL)

    222 >> I've never been to Muskegon but I know it as the place where vaudevillians spent the summer, way back when.
    Nope, don't remember that stuff but I'm old enough to remember the odor of the paper mill letting us know we were getting close.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM

    There is a film festival related to the old time actors colony that was in Muskegon. Paper mill and the jobs that went with it are long gone. I lived there for 14 years. Just sold our house there recently.

    Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2019 10:47 PM (2cuLk)

    223 Iirc, DeBlasio was all in with her. Cuomo wanted to strangle her.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (nMj2X)

    You recall incorrectly, DeBlasio is pissed, Amazon would have to donate to him and any of his causes forever. This cost him millions, oops, I mean it's bad for NYC.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 10:47 PM (Rz2Nc)

    224 Wouldn't be a Crandall, would he? And my father was Gerber's head instrument tech for about twenty years, but he retired a pretty fair stretch back and has since passed on...
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:44 PM (7s3Gx)

    Why yes, he would. : )

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (z9Eyh)

    225
    On the up-side, I think AOC is having a craqqy night. She's tweeting defensively away, which makes me think she's a tad afraid that she might have fvcked up.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (13CQC)

    226 I was thinking about how to support the blog, and I saw a little bit about Amazon referrals. I got the impression that the blog does not have that right now. Can someone enlighten me?

    Because, it would be cool to have a thread once a week of Moron Product Recommendations



    Ruger Vaquero. Taurus Tracker. Henry Levers.
    H&K USP.


    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (nMj2X)

    227 I've never been to Muskegon but I know it as the place where vaudevillians spent the summer, way back when.
    Nope, don't remember that stuff but I'm old enough to remember the odor of the paper mill letting us know we were getting close.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:42 PM

    The Muskegon Actors' Colony, we're talking early 1900s through the 1930s, in the Bluffton section.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (zmIJL)

    228 Casual Friday ONT Compliance Pics

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466109539274760

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466196545896450

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466296760385537

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466383603412992

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466465195286528

    Posted by: kbdabear at February 15, 2019 10:49 PM (0Ntuf)

    229 There is a film festival related to the old time actors colony that was in Muskegon. Paper mill and the jobs that went with it are long gone. I lived there for 14 years. Just sold our house there recently.
    Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2019 10:47 PM (2cuLk)

    Which part of town if I may ask?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:49 PM (z9Eyh)

    230 >>Because, it would be cool to have a thread once a week of Moron Product Recommendations


    If it Squeaks, Leaks or Reaks

    CharlieBrown'sDildoOil

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (GdNri)

    231
    Iirc, DeBlasio was all in with her. Cuomo wanted to strangle her.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:40 PM (nMj2X

    =====

    DeBolshevik's furious. He did a radio interview in which he lit into the little twit.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (13CQC)

    232 As a software developer, I hear from clients that they no way are gonna load the latest update

    I know the topic is Apple's OS, but for Windows fans users did Microsoft basically skip Version 1809? I know of several boxes that never would receive the update due to issues MS was having w/r/t damaging/losing files.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (lD3vL)

    233 More Casual Friday ONT Compliance Pics

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466543528108033

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466645550276609

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466747845210114

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466841021624320

    https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1096466936811188225

    Posted by: kbdabear at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (0Ntuf)

    234 I'm listening to former president, Natalie Maines, on Winamp for XP running in VBox.

    That makes me a luddite for sure.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (JkygK)

    235 ECB,

    Curt's brother Scott and I were the same year in school.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (7s3Gx)

    236 Norton Shores

    Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (2cuLk)

    237 Which part of town if I may ask?
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:49 PM

    Pigeon Hill Dune, Bluffton.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (zmIJL)

    238 I cannot stop laughing at the giraffe gif. I'm sure the female giraffe is relieved those week knee genes won't be passed along to her offspring.

    Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (uTY3H)

    239 "The more criminal cops you jail, the fewer criminals will apply?"

    That would be my prediction. You'd have a harder time finding candidates at all levels of capability and probity, bad to good.

    You're talking about a job where you have twelve encounters per day that would make any ordinary person see red. On top of that, you're carrying a cam recording everything you do and say.

    If you're young and smart, you KNOW there won't be any pension $ left in a decade or two.

    You can have a pure, flawless, law enforcement apparatus if you can afford it. But it will be a tiny force, since pure candidates are rare. Maybe we can get them taser-drones to help.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (mk9aG)

    240 AnalEaze

    Particularly the High RPM Formulation.

    Posted by: Shep Smith at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (GdNri)

    241 Hell, ace is a lawyer. It's the single blind spot in an otherwise perfect blog.
    Posted by: mikeyG at February 15, 2019 10:45 PM (iY8NM)
    **************
    Ace is a lawyer? Seriously?

    Posted by: redridinghood at February 15, 2019 10:52 PM (hECVl)

    242 I didn't watch the video, but I can imagine several scenarios where the cops might taze a perp right in his junk; that will get a man's attention in a hurry. Sounds like the guy would not do as he was told, and the cops were tired of dickin' around, pun intended.


    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:52 PM (VLXcj)

    243 ...on Winamp for XP running in VBox.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (JkygK)


    Winamp really whips the llama's ass.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:52 PM (t+qrx)

    244 ECB,

    Curt's brother Scott and I were the same year in school.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:50 PM (7s3Gx)

    That's too funny. Scotty's my best friend. We were fraternity brothers at Alma College, that's where we first met.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:53 PM (z9Eyh)

    245 >>Ace is a lawyer? Seriously?


    True.

    But on Endor 'Lawyer' has several meanings.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 10:53 PM (GdNri)

    246 You recall incorrectly, DeBlasio is pissed, Amazon would have to donate to him and any of his causes forever. This cost him millions, oops, I mean it's bad for NYC.

    I remember a huge deal a friend of my was involved in. As time passed, people were falling out of the trees trying to get in on the deal and get a taste.

    It got to be a couple dozen interlopers who managed to get in where the combined vig was so large it killed the whole deal.

    I imagine, given the rampant corruption throughout NY and NYC, this was probably a similar situation with Amazon.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:54 PM (lD3vL)

    247 >> but for Windows fans users did Microsoft basically skip Version 1809?

    That's the current version. The pulled the update for a few weeks after the file deletion bug, but put it back out.

    That's what all mine and MIley's are running,1809, build 17763.316

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:54 PM (f1Vqw)

    248 225
    On the up-side, I think AOC is having a craqqy night. She's tweeting defensively away, which makes me think she's a tad afraid that she might have fvcked up.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (13CQC)

    Friday night Adderall binge.

    Posted by: literally serious at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (MwiFE)

    249
    Crap. Nothing I'm doing is inserting the proper line breaks. Stupid Quantum Firef*cks browser.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:45 PM (7s3Gx

    ====

    Haha, that's why I turned off all scripts in Firef*cks. Otherwise, I hit return about four times between each paragraph, copy and paste the whole poast into Notepad, run it through a quote-and-apostrophe cleansing macro, paste back into a new instance of Notepad, refresh the browser, paste the Notepad contents into the Comments field, and hit Post.

    Then I go find the nood.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (13CQC)

    250 I didn't watch the video, but I can imagine several scenarios where the cops might taze a perp right in his junk; that will get a man's attention in a hurry. Sounds like the guy would not do as he was told, and the cops were tired of dickin' around, pun intended.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:52 PM (VLXcj)


    He was cuffed, face to the ground, with another cop on his back. Hard to tell if he was struggling, but people tense up after getting tased a few times.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (t+qrx)

    251 Tammy, the dude was cuffed when they pulled his shorts down and tased his testicles and perineum.

    Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (uTY3H)

    252 ECB,
    Small world, isn't it?

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (7s3Gx)

    253 Yes, and now I have property in Cotopaxi, and we have llamas!
    I like to run up and spit on them. Way better than tippin' cows.

    Fun facts: there is a Cotopaxi in South America, and Colorado. At one time both places had camelids, then only South America, but now...yup we gotem again.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (JkygK)

    254 Norton Shores
    Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2019 10:51 PM (2cuLk)

    Gotcha. Is it still a decent area?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:56 PM (z9Eyh)

    255
    I didn't watch the video, but I can imagine several scenarios where the cops might taze a perp right in his junk; that will get a man's attention in a hurry. Sounds like the guy would not do as he was told, and the cops were tired of dickin' around, pun intended.


    ====

    Watch the vid. The cops' behavior was criminal.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:56 PM (13CQC)

    256 ECB,
    Small world, isn't it?
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (7s3Gx)

    Yeah, sure is. You never know.

    When did you move away?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:57 PM (z9Eyh)

    257 Blonde Morticia,
    The part that's frosting my butt is that the older version of Firefox on my XP box formats everything just fine. On my laptop with Win 10, no such luck. What a turd.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:57 PM (7s3Gx)

    258 Wow, for a minute I could not figure out that picture of the kids on the bus. I thought the elderly person was a homeless guy!

    Posted by: PJ at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (qlTN9)

    259 Firefox same on Win7. return return god dangit return

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (JkygK)

    260 You recall incorrectly, DeBlasio is pissed, Amazon would have to donate to him and any of his causes forever.
    ++++++

    "Meanwhile, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio appeared to suggest that Amazon was making a big mistake.

    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)

    261 Hey, blaster and no good deed - really nice to meet you guys! Sorry I didn't recognize you at first by the nametags. I didn't really recognize you until later when I saw the nick attached to a comment.

    It's really bizarre and I can't account for it.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (t+qrx)

    262 For those of you keeping track, Ace has posted 100 threads so far this month.

    Posted by: Surfperch at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (tVQUs)

    263
    Friday night Adderall binge.

    Posted by: literally serious at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (MwiFE

    =====

    Maybe she's like a combo of the kids on the bus and the giraffe, keeping her nose in her phone so Riley doesn't mount her.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (13CQC)

    264 >>Gotcha. Is it still a decent area?
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy

    It is. One of the better ares of town.

    Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (2cuLk)

    265 ECB,
    Did my undergrad at Michigan State, graduate work at Ohio State, and then after a modest delay, entered the funtime world of government national lab work. I left Michigan in 1986. Unfortunately, I don't think I've been back since my father passed in 2007. It's really time I made time to get back up there.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (7s3Gx)

    266 260 You recall incorrectly, DeBlasio is pissed, Amazon would have to donate to him and any of his causes forever.
    ++++++

    "Meanwhile, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio appeared to suggest that Amazon was making a big mistake.

    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)

    Fuck them all. I want them all to lose.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

    267
    The CR expires when? July 2019?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (KNDOU)

    268 It was a pleasure meeting you, hogmartin.

    Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (uTY3H)

    269 AOC was going on and on on twitter about pizzas and a fake $300 coupon to illustrate the Amazon deal, while Queens is confused about where the coupon came from. "And, like, the pepperoni slices represent the oppressed, like, workers..." Nothing makes any sense.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (zmIJL)

    270 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 10:52 PM (VLXcj)

    ...

    I'm not sure I'd assess it that way.

    The guy got tased for essentially arguing, not threatening or resisting, the officer.

    I have enough sense not to argue with them, but I don't like that the reason I'm that way is because I know they'll kick my butt and maybe shoot me in the back of the head 3 times.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (6a9Py)

    271 I didn't watch the video, but I can imagine several scenarios where the cops might taze a perp right in his junk; that will get a man's attention in a hurry. Sounds like the guy would not do as he was told, and the cops were tired of dickin' around, pun intended.

    Except that he was the passenger in a car they were stopping for having a taillight out, AND he was complying with their orders. It wasn't even a BOLO case and he was a suspect, they simply walked up to him and in essence the sequence went "Do not resist!" "OK" "You're resisting" *tase* *tase* *tase*

    If he HAD resisted, I would have thought they went on a bit long, but my attitude would be don't want none don't start none. That wasn't the case here.

    Posted by: Weirddave at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (JP6CH)

    272
    It got to be a couple dozen interlopers who managed to get in where the combined vig was so large it killed the whole deal.

    I imagine, given the rampant corruption throughout NY and NYC, this was probably a similar situation with Amazon.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 10:54 PM (lD3vL

    =====

    Other way around. It was a hostile business environment and Amazon saw endless opposition from endless idiots and they just said fuckit.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (13CQC)

    273 "Meanwhile, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio appeared to suggest that Amazon was making a big mistake.

    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)


    Face saving 101.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:02 PM (Jzd7W)

    274
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (t+qrx)

    251
    Tammy, the dude was cuffed when they pulled his shorts down and tased his testicles and perineum.

    Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2019 10:55 PM (uTY3H)

    Damn. What had he been doing before? How long had they had him? NOT defending them, just curious about what led up to it. They get crazed after awhile, adrenalin builds up or something.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:02 PM (VLXcj)

    275 Meanwhile, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio appeared to suggest that Amazon was making a big mistake.

    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)

    Lol, you might want to look for his earlier statements. Now he's spinning. Personally, as a customer of Amazon, I'm not certain how being in the most expensive cities helps me cost wise.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:02 PM (Rz2Nc)

    276 167 A cheap diamond manicure file works far better for sharpening the kitchen cutlery than any whet steel...
    Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 15, 2019 10:31 PM (CLcKT)


    Sure, but steels aren't meant for sharpening.

    Posted by: Splunge at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (ed8K1)

    277 yes good meeting you hogmartin.

    The MoMes are interesting events.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (ZfRYq)

    278 "He was cuffed, face to the ground, with another cop on his back. Hard to tell if he was struggling, but people tense up after getting tased a few times."

    Yes, it was brutal. It was obviously more force than needed merely for restraint. Yanking his pants down and zapping his junk is grotesque.

    But I still want to see tattoo boy's rap sheet. I practice situational awareness. I see a lowlife like that in public, I steer clear. If I had a wife, I wouldn't want her parking next to that loser, or any of the friends he attracts. Imagine having to roust a dozen a day.

    What significant injuries (doctor's report please) has tattoo guy claimed?

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (mk9aG)

    279
    You have to be STUPID to set up business in NY, and even stupider to set up in NYC.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (IMbi5)

    280 AOC was going on and on on twitter about pizzas and a fake $300 coupon to illustrate the Amazon deal, while Queens is confused about where the coupon came from. "And, like, the pepperoni slices represent the oppressed, like, workers..." Nothing makes any sense.
    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey

    Tweeting after some of Bogota's finest?

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (gkstg)

    281 I see your tazing-in-the-nuts and raise you one criminal conspiracy.

    According to ABC 13 News in Houston, the couple Rhogena Nicholas and Dennis Tuttle who were falsly accused of being drug dealers, had their door smashed down and were assassinated by the Houston PD.

    The warrant claimed that a CI purchased heroin from them, when in fact no one purchased any drug from them nor even went into their house to allegedly see the drugs and guns.

    This is straight up murder.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:04 PM (lD3vL)

    282 American citizens, once the forefront of the world, have now been so badly trained that they think AOC is a thinking, intellectual giant, and they will press the button for her forever.
    The world is doomed.
    A commentor said that George Lucas' first film as director, "THX 1138" was dull and boring.
    Yes, it is both of those things. But it's also the future we are staring down the barrel of.
    There is no future. Pills and videos will keep them all in line. It's just become more subtle than Mr. Lucas thought.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 15, 2019 11:04 PM (l9m7l)

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:04 PM (lD3vL)

    284 Except that he was the passenger in a car they were stopping for having a taillight out, AND he was complying with their orders. It wasn't even a BOLO case and he was a suspect, they simply walked up to him and in essence the sequence went "Do not resist!" "OK" "You're resisting" *tase* *tase* *tase*

    If he HAD resisted, I would have thought they went on a bit long, but my attitude would be don't want none don't start none. That wasn't the case here.
    Posted by: Weirddave at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (JP6CH)


    I'm not sure what I think, but let me play devil's advocate.

    These people are sitting in a car, in a high crime area, and none of them has ID. That's very odd, no? Are they about to check in to the motel? OK, I'll walk you in, this being a high crime area and all. That would have been my response.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:05 PM (Jzd7W)

    285
    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)

    Fuck them all. I want them all to lose.

    Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

    =====

    DeBlasio loved Amazon up to the moment they quit. If you google, you can find the headlines and pix. He thought they were going to save his ass from deficits and make him look good, and then...they left. DeBlasio is mad like he was jilted at the altar.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:05 PM (13CQC)

    286
    Does anyone here know how Amazon became a huge success?
    Of course you do.

    They did it without the Brick and Mortar bullshit.

    Warehouses were in Bumfuck, Idaho and East Bumfuck, Wyoming. In other words, the middle of nowhere, selling their shit via the internet.

    Why would Amazon go backwards and set up "HQ-2" in NYC?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (IMbi5)

    287 Bill deBlaso: You left me standing at the altar, all my friends and family staring at me. Why?!? I'm so humiliated. You don't know how much you're gonna miss my bloviating at dinner and how I wash and rinse those piles of money for you every morning, yessir, just you wait and see. You'll be sorry!

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (zmIJL)

    288 Of course none of those police videos bothers me as much as the one with cop that executed the guy on his hands and knees in the hotel hallway that was literally laying on the ground crying.

    I don't think I could ever watch that again. It gave me chills.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (6a9Py)

    289 I'm on Team Insomniac on this one. Between Amazon and the politicos they bought on one hand, and the commies on the other, I'm rooting for injuries

    Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (ykYG2)

    290 DeBlasio loved Amazon up to the moment they quit. If you google, you can find the headlines and pix. He thought they were going to save his ass from deficits and make him look good, and then...they left. DeBlasio is mad like he was jilted at the altar.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at F



    more like deblasio was irrumatioed at the altar.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (MTjB1)

    291 Blue bird, welcome to the...

    Posted by: Barrel at February 15, 2019 11:07 PM (Rz2Nc)

    292 were assassinated

    They were political figures?

    If not, they were killed. Or, if circumstances so indicate, murdered. They were NOT assassinated.

    Let us not contaminate the language any more than it has been, OK?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:07 PM (Jzd7W)

    293 Irrumatioed?

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 11:07 PM (7s3Gx)

    294
    What significant injuries (doctor's report please) has tattoo guy claimed?

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (mk9aG)

    =====

    By design, tasing doesn't leave significant injuries, does it?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (13CQC)

    295 Irrumatioed?
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at F



    you don't have the google?

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (MTjB1)

    296 ECB,
    Did my undergrad at Michigan State, graduate work at Ohio State, and then after a modest delay, entered the funtime world of government national lab work. I left Michigan in 1986. Unfortunately, I don't think I've been back since my father passed in 2007. It's really time I made time to get back up there.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 10:59 PM (7s3Gx)

    I probably should too. I go see my grown kids who live outside Detroit, but i drive there (19 hours straight) and by the time I get there I just don't feel like doing another 8 hour round trip to Holton and back.

    My mom is still on the family farm (400 acres outside town) and getting up there in years. Plus over the years I always felt like I was a pleasant distraction for Scotty from his work whenever I rolled into town. He would appreciate me making an appearance.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (z9Eyh)

    297 Why would Amazon go backwards and set up "HQ-2" in NYC?


    Ummmm, Bezos is compensating?

    Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (uTY3H)

    298
    I hate Amazon.

    Fuck them and their state tax. I use ebay. And I buy from the chinks.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (IMbi5)

    299 cop that executed the guy

    Was he the state executioner? No. Then he didn't execute anybody. He killed somebody - objective fact - and he might have murdered somebody - something to be adjudicated - but he most certainly did not EXECUTE anybody.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (Jzd7W)

    300 269 AOC was going on and on on twitter about pizzas and a fake $300 coupon to illustrate the Amazon deal, while Queens is confused about where the coupon came from. "And, like, the pepperoni slices represent the oppressed, like, workers..." Nothing makes any sense.


    Her stuffed animals totally got it though.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (WNAuL)

    301 Amazon HQ2 is mostly the business offices.

    Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (ZfRYq)

    302 Meanwhile, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio appeared to suggest that Amazon was making a big mistake.

    In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."


    Doesn't sound like DeBlasio is pissed.
    Sounds like he's trying to pin it on Amazon.
    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 10:58 PM (nMj2X)

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (Rz2Nc)

    303 American citizens, once the forefront of the world, have now been so badly trained that they think AOC is a thinking, intellectual giant, and they will press the button for her forever.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm

    Category error on both parts. Cheap third world imports held up a paint swatch and determined that she is close enough to their complexion to "represent" them. In a multicultural society, people don't vote their economic interest, they vote their race/religion.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (gkstg)

    304 Screwed that up.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:10 PM (Rz2Nc)

    305 > OC was going on and on on twitter about pizzas and a fake $300 coupon to illustrate the Amazon deal, while Queens is confused about where the coupon came from. "And, like, the pepperoni slices represent the oppressed, like, workers..." Nothing makes any sense.

    Her stuffed animals totally got it though.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:09 PM (WNAuL)


    Every day of her life must be a fresh new episode of "that sounded a lot better in my head, just now".

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:10 PM (t+qrx)

    306 the people that learned how to code do not want to live in the middle of nowhere.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:10 PM (MTjB1)

    307 203 qdpsteve

    I have simple needs these days. OS Mojave will not improve my life. Indeed, it will destroy investments in working software, and make my life less smooth.

    Upgrading has a marginal value at some point.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 15, 2019 11:10 PM (u82oZ)

    308 Sorry, but it is my pet peeve that people pervert the language by misusing "assassinate" and "execute" in totally inappropriate circumstances.

    English is beautiful, expressive, and precise language. Let's keep it that way, OK?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:11 PM (Jzd7W)

    309 "By design, tasing doesn't leave significant injuries, does it?"

    So is that to say he had no significant injuries? I'll take that as a yes.

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:11 PM (mk9aG)

    310 282 American citizens, once the forefront of the world, have now been so badly trained that they think AOC is a thinking, intellectual giant, and they will press the button for her forever.
    The world is doomed.
    A commentor said that George Lucas' first film as director, "THX 1138" was dull and boring.
    Yes, it is both of those things. But it's also the future we are staring down the barrel of.
    There is no future. Pills and videos will keep them all in line. It's just become more subtle than Mr. Lucas thought.
    Posted by: BeckoningChasm



    It's going to be A Brave New World!! Embrace your inner Huxley.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:11 PM (WNAuL)

    311 DeBlasio loved Amazon up to the moment they quit. If
    you google, you can find the headlines and pix. He thought they were
    going to save his ass from deficits and make him look good, and
    then...they left. DeBlasio is mad like he was jilted at the altar.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:05 PM (13CQC)



    I bet DeBlasio would still be in love with them if Amazon was a lesbian.

    Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at February 15, 2019 11:11 PM (fdTrp)

    312 ECB,
    Understood. My family's scattered all about (aunt in Mason not too far from Hogmartin's neck of the woods), others up around Hesperia towards Walkerville, etc. But time marches on and waits for no one. Ok, got to sign off, it's been a real pleasure.

    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (7s3Gx)

    313 You would have to be high to try having sex with a giraffe...

    Posted by: Muldoon at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (m45I2)

    314 So is that to say he had no significant injuries? I'll take that as a yes.
    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:11 PM (mk9aG)


    OK, but what's your point?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (t+qrx)

    315
    Why would Amazon go backwards and set up "HQ-2" in NYC?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (IMbi5

    ====

    HQ2 wasn't brick and mortar retail or warehousing, it was knowledge jobs -- accountants, lawyers, engineers.

    Any of us probably could have told Amazon to beware, that New York politicos are even harder commies than they are, and I don't mind laughing as they eat their own young -- but I also hate to see a missed opportunity for economic growth.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (13CQC)

    316 293 Irrumatioed?
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 11:07 PM (7s3Gx)

    I have many instructional videos out there waiting to be researched.

    Posted by: Sasha Grey at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (MwiFE)

    317 the people that learned how to code do not want to live in the middle of nowhere.
    Posted by: yankeefifth


    Jugdarth and Yerbegga don't care about the nightlife. The 3 families living in one house all look the same to them.

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 15, 2019 11:13 PM (0ogxh)

    318
    "And, like, the pepperoni slices represent the oppressed, like, workers..." Nothing makes any sense.

    Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 15, 2019 11:01 PM (zmIJL

    =====

    Her pizza analogy was memeworthy. Anytime she's involved in deliberations on the House floor, the Republicans ought to come armed with slides and posters of pizza graphics.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:14 PM (13CQC)

    319 BeckoningChasm@282
    I want you to know that I love Big Brother. Pass the Soma and let's have a toast.

    djg:
    I like that usage for execute. How about some poetic justice?

    Or license. Words, whatever.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:14 PM (JkygK)

    320 Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:04 PM (lD3vL)

    Is this the same case Jim told us about? That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about when I bag on cops.
    The other stuff is bad, but I have yet to see them pull random citizens off the street for no reason and start tazing their junk, etc. NOT SAYING they should do that, but I have memories of cops finally getting flat out tired of dealing with my drunken, belligerent father and start whoopin on his ass to get him in the squad car. Start off on fingers and toes and work their way in.

    Lord knows what might have happened if they'd had tasers.
    Again, not defending; see my comment upthread about how I am sympathetic to an extent to black folks being leery of cops overall.
    You could not pay me enough to be a cop or marry one.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:14 PM (VLXcj)

    321 was stuck in traffic some time ago.

    the cops, seemed like some sort of tactical team of some sort, had surrounded some guys a car and tased him. traffic was slow enough that you could hear the cops yelling, "stay down, stay down" then some sort of yelling from the tased guy then the tell tale noise of the taser and more yelling from somewhere out of sight on the shoulder.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:14 PM (MTjB1)

    322 Any of us probably could have told Amazon to beware, that New York politicos are even harder commies than they are

    This just in: Amazon is relocating HQ2 to Berkeley.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:15 PM (Jzd7W)

    323 the people that learned how to code do not want to live in the middle of nowhere.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:10 PM (MTjB1

    The people that know how to code, enjoy being able to live anywhere. High speed internet is a wonderful thing.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:15 PM (Rz2Nc)

    324 I dunno but I think Loopy might benefit from a good firm spanking.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 15, 2019 11:15 PM (PuNSu)

    325 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (IMbi5)

    They were forced into charging tax; that was a legislative act.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:16 PM (VLXcj)

    326 Sorry, but it is my pet peeve that people pervert the language by misusing "assassinate" and "execute" in totally inappropriate circumstances.

    When a government kills its own citizens, it is either an assassination or an execution. I want to give the government both options - if it was a lawless, targeted and deliberate homicide, then it is an assassination. If it was lawful than it is an execution.

    What would you prefer to call this?

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:16 PM (lD3vL)

    327 Most of my surviving family I haven't seen in a while is in Minnesota. I fear I've waited too long to visit again.

    I fear a lot of things. Though that may be the D talking.

    Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at February 15, 2019 11:16 PM (lLeln)

    328 lots of cops have mentioned that the lack of obvious injury is one of the key benefits of tasing. much more convenient that having to take a bag of oranges everywhere.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:16 PM (MTjB1)

    329 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

    Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 15, 2019 11:17 PM (UGqF8)

    330 The people that know how to code, enjoy being able to live anywhere. High speed internet is a wonderful thing.
    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at F


    sure, but lots of them like to live in ny, especially brooklyn.

    even with the high speed internets, there is value in being in the same room as your team.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:18 PM (MTjB1)

    331 Why would Amazon go backwards and set up "HQ-2" in NYC?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:06 PM (IMbi5)

    Didn't make any sense to me, either, though I assume NYC was sweetening the pot. Boeing HQ left Seattle for Chicago years back, can't remember what all incentives they gave them, but it musta been worth it at least in the short term.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:18 PM (VLXcj)

    332 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?
    Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 15, 2019 11:17 PM (UGqF


    Cops have tased them every one.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:18 PM (t+qrx)

    333 "OK, but what's your point?"

    Sigh. If it's any consolation to you all, even if the bad cops aren't fired or criminally charged, they will be civilly sued into penury.

    Or how about we ask the cops if they would be willing to accept a penalty of the same punishment they gave to tattoo guy, tasing and beating, and get to keep their jobs? That would be my Solomon's choice.

    I wonder what tattoo guy's future looks like?

    I wouldn't give you a nickel for the future of tattoo guy's kid. In 12 years, he'll have a "Born To Be Tased" tattoo on his forehead.

    Anyway, thanks, 73, and QRT!

    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (mk9aG)

    334 By design, tasing doesn't leave significant injuries, does it?
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:08 PM (13CQC)


    Minor discomfort. A mere annoyance.

    In fact, I don't know why it is not legal to taze random people just for the hell of it.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (1g7ch)

    335 lots of cops have mentioned that the lack of obvious injury is one of the key benefits of tasing. much more convenient that having to take a bag of oranges everywhere.
    Posted by: yankeefifth

    But the oranges are so sweet and tasty, and they give you the energy you need to take effective swings.

    Posted by: Bing Crosby at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (gkstg)

    336 there was a youtube vid of some girl tasing her tits.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (MTjB1)

    337 324 I dunno but I think Loopy might benefit from a good firm spanking.
    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 15, 2019 11:15 PM (PuNSu)

    --------

    I will do this. I'm a patriot.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:20 PM (UGqF8)

    338 ECB,
    Understood. My family's scattered all about (aunt in Mason not too far from Hogmartin's neck of the woods), others up around Hesperia towards Walkerville, etc. But time marches on and waits for no one. Ok, got to sign off, it's been a real pleasure.
    Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (7s3Gx)

    Same for me, take care!

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:20 PM (z9Eyh)

    339 Nobody moves, or Sheriff Bart gets it. We really don't want him to understand, so stay still.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:20 PM (JkygK)

    340
    the people that learned how to code do not want to live in the middle of nowhere.
    Posted by: yankeefifth

    Jugdarth and Yerbegga don't care about the nightlife. The 3 families living in one house all look the same to them.

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 15, 2019 11:13 PM (0ogxh)

    =====

    These weren't all coders. Probably mostly accountants, lawyers, marketing professionals, that stuff. This was Wen Shuang and Faizan and even Greg and Jan. HQ2 would have been an awesome pull for young professionals from all over who could have contributed to schools, charities, the arts, as well as local businesses.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:21 PM (13CQC)

    341 You would have to be high to try having sex with a giraffe...
    Posted by: Muldoon at February 15, 2019 11:12 PM (m45I2)

    6 foot ladder would probably do it.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:21 PM (z9Eyh)

    342 the taser fun starts around 220



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xKqbzd7HgQ

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:21 PM (MTjB1)

    343 But the oranges are so sweet and tasty, and they give you the energy you need to take effective swings.

    ....

    Which is the obvious advantage over a bar of soap in a tube sock.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 11:21 PM (6a9Py)

    344 When a government kills its own citizens, it is either an assassination or an execution. I want to give the government both options - if it was a lawless, targeted and deliberate homicide, then it is an assassination.

    No. This is total bullshit. An assassination is a politically motivated murder, as all dictionary owners will appreciate.

    Whacking some random shithead might be murder, but if you don't even know his name, and neither does anyone else, that most certainly is NOT an assassination. Lincoln was assassinated. McKinley was assassinated. Garfield was assassinated. Kennedy was assassinated.

    Everyone else got murdered.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:22 PM (Jzd7W)

    345 NerdyGirl: Thanks for the heads up but it has to be Westerns, War movies, Life below Zero or Wild Alaska. About every third day he forgets he watched something and goes for it again. I think he's watched Pale Rider 3x this week. Gives me a giggle.

    Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 15, 2019 11:22 PM (Z0huu)

    346
    there was a youtube vid of some girl tasing her tits.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (MTjB1)

    =====

    Of course you knew that. Or didn't know it at all but just enjoyed typing it.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:22 PM (13CQC)

    347 Miley's back was to them, so couldn't see it, but Princess came in, yakking on her smart phone. She sat down and continued to yak, then stopped talking and starting thumbing and texting. She did put the phone away when dinner was served.

    The dude just sat there, and didn't seem to be bothered.
    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f1Vqw)

    And

    On the up-side, I think AOC is having a craqqy night. She's tweeting defensively away, which makes me think she's a tad afraid that she might have fvcked up.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 10:48 PM (13CQC)


    Comment synchronicity.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 11:23 PM (Y8PSl)

    348 I dunno but I think Loopy might benefit from a good firm spanking.
    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 15, 2019 11:15 PM (PuNSu)

    I think you should run that by your date just to see how she reacts.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:23 PM (z9Eyh)

    349 sure, but lots of them like to live in ny, especially brooklyn.

    even with the high speed internets, there is value in being in the same room as your team.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:18 PM (MTjB1)

    I never found any value being anywhere close to my team, there was one or two people worth a damn when I left.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (Rz2Nc)

    350 Sigh. If it's any consolation to you all, even if the bad cops aren't fired or criminally charged, they will be civilly sued into penury.

    You sound disappointed.

    I wonder what tattoo guy's future looks like?

    He certainly learned that the penalty for tattoos is painful but not disfiguring. Won't make that mistake again.

    Anyway, thanks, 73, and QRT!
    Posted by: gp at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (mk9aG)


    73s.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (t+qrx)

    351 even with the high speed internets, there is value in being in the same room as your team.

    Yeah, if you thrive off of distraction and want to make sure you catch every illness that your team gets from their offspring.

    I'm less than five thousand steps from the office, yet work remotely and get twice as much done - even when pissing away time on this forum.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (lD3vL)

    352 If the government, which the police are part of, orders you killed, what is the word for that?

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (JkygK)

    353 You sure it wasn't Buttle?

    Posted by: pawn at February 15, 2019 11:25 PM (audXl)

    354
    I don't know why it is not legal to taze random people just for the hell of it.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 15, 2019 11:19 PM (1g7ch)

    =====

    Solved: the origin of another nic.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:25 PM (13CQC)

    355 even with the high speed internets, there is value in being in the same room as your team.

    It depends on what position you play.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:25 PM (Jzd7W)

    356 Blue Bird of F'ing Joy that is straight up bullshit.

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:26 PM (JkygK)

    357 LMAO, does Bill Weld really think himself a threat to The Donald???

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:26 PM (e7oj4)

    358 My favorite position is on my knees.

    Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 15, 2019 11:26 PM (JkygK)

    359 Her pizza analogy was memeworthy. Anytime she's involved in deliberations on the House floor, the Republicans ought to come armed with slides and posters of pizza graphics.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia


    You want to blow Donkey Chompers mind?
    Ask her why pizza is made round, cut in triangles, and delivered in a square box.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (nMj2X)

    360 -
    Heh, Occasional Cortex's new glamour shot:
    http://tinypic.com/r/r7vfad/9

    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (RVcmP)

    361 It depends on what position you play.
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

    Tight end
    *winks*

    Posted by: Jussie at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (gkstg)

    362 Of course you knew that. Or didn't know it at all but just enjoyed typing it.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at F



    well I knew it because someone emailed it to me a long time ago.

    even then what are the odds that that is not somewhere on the internets?

    you are right though, either way I would enjoy typing that.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (MTjB1)

    363
    Comment synchronicity.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 11:23 PM (Y8PSl)

    =====

    Content synchronicity: AOC's boyfriend is the male giraffe tonight.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (13CQC)

    364 352 If the government, which the police are part of, orders you killed, what is the word for that?
    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (JkygK)


    First off, this is semi-retarded. What government do you mean? If it's the state government, or the Federal government, after a legal determination, trial, conviction, and sentencing, it is an execution.

    Otherwise it's murder. Except in Democrat-run areas. In which case, it's no biggie.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (Jzd7W)

    365 Yeah, if you thrive off of distraction and want to make sure you catch every illness that your team gets from their offspring.

    I'm less than five thousand steps from the office, yet work remotely and get twice as much done - even when pissing away time on this forum.
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (lD3vL)

    Fist bump. If you enjoy doing your own projects along with your team members projects, sure, be near them. Otherwise avoid them like the plague.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (Rz2Nc)

    366 If the government, which the police are part of, orders you killed, what is the word for that?
    Posted by: David Prince


    Illegitimate?

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 11:29 PM (nMj2X)

    367 Oh, I am really obsessing about ideas to help out the Ass of Spades, as we call him here at the Weekly Standard.
    I think he could do a meet and greet and charge admission. Like one of those Congressional Fund Raising Dinners, but with Rite Aid and Kaboom.

    But, privacy? Well, from the podcasts we know his voice, but for actual facial recognition, a grand Ewok Mask would do nicely.
    Who wouldn't pay for that?

    Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 15, 2019 11:29 PM (JkygK)

    368 @115 Jim (Sunk New Dawn). Houston is the nearest big city to me and I read about that when it happened and was all concerned for the officers. I have heard no mention of the aftermath (faked affadavit, no informant etc.) . I stopped watching the fake news quite a while ago.

    Now I'm beyond pissed. A dirty cop is lower than whale shit and that is at the bottom of the freaking ocean.

    There but by the grace of God go I. If that had happened here at Rancho Dude it would have played out in a similar fashion.

    Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 15, 2019 11:30 PM (cCxiu)

    369 No, illegitimate is what I call my kids. Totally different.

    Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 15, 2019 11:30 PM (JkygK)

    370 Um, yeah, gun control is not a national emergency, since guns are, y;know, mentioned in the Constitution.

    Zach Friend is a pussy.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:30 PM (e7oj4)

    371 361 It depends on what position you play.
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

    Tight end
    *winks*
    Posted by: Jussie at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (gkstg)


    I very much doubt that. I'd have guessed "left out."

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (Jzd7W)

    372 I better go. You guys have a good night and a great weekend, and please, if you don't know how, Learn to Code!

    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (JkygK)

    373
    You want to blow Donkey Chompers mind?
    Ask her why pizza is made round, cut in triangles, and delivered in a square box.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (nMj2X

    =====

    She'd probably make a defense of multiculturalism out of that. "In case you hadn't noticed, a delicious pizza must undergo three completely different shapes before it can give you the full benefits of nutrition and tastiness."

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (13CQC)

    374 369 No, illegitimate is what I call my kids. Totally different.
    Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 15, 2019 11:30 PM (JkygK)

    ------
    They'll never inherit the Cuck King Crown.

    So sad for them.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (UGqF8)

    375 sure new york has its faults but there is no better place to get business done.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (MTjB1)

    376
    It doesn't matter if it's office space or warehouse space -- Amazon was successful because they realized it was Stupid to set up shop in high-rent (or high tax or high-priced) locations -- that's Amazon's "business model."


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (IMbi5)

    377
    1. "Chonkey Dompers"
    Posted by: qdpsteve at February 15, 2019 10:12 PM (miE9U)


    1.(a) "chancla"

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (mUa7G)

    378 Content synchronicity: AOC's boyfriend is the male giraffe tonight.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (13CQC)


    Ah, geez, is this going to become one of those 'mirrors opposite each other/infinity' things? Maybe I was wrong and synchronicity is overrated.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (Y8PSl)

    379 Whacking some random shithead might be murder, but if you don't even know his name, and neither does anyone else, that most certainly is NOT an assassination.

    But we aren't talking about "some random shithead". Even the feckless Police Chief acknowledges that what his officer did was criminal in deliberately filing a false warrant so that he can "whack" (since you prefer dictionary precision) the people named on that warrant.

    So because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt I went to the golden standard of internet knowledge wikipedia and saw:

    "It is an act that may be done for financial gain, to avenge a grievance, from a desire to acquire fame or notoriety, or because of a military, security, insurgent or secret police group's command to carry out the homicide. "

    Other than the previous paragraphs "prominent person" - I think the victims were somewhere between "prominent" and "random shithead" probably closer to "shithead".

    But if we had all shitheads killed we wouldn't have too many people left on this planet, huh?

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (lD3vL)

    380 Heh, Occasional Cortex's new glamour shot:
    http://tinypic.com/r/r7vfad/9
    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (RVcmP)

    LOL

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (z9Eyh)

    381
    Why have a 500K sq ft office in NYC when you can 1M sq ft in Bumfuck, Idaho for a 1/25th of the cost?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (IMbi5)

    382 > Well there really is not an escape hatch from the third world. No graduation path.


    Sure there is. Embrace capitalism.

    South Korea was a third world country as recently as the 1960s. Look at it now.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (0OWcv)

    383 If the government, which the police are part of, orders you killed, what is the word for that?
    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:24 PM (JkygK)

    First off, this is semi-retarded. What government do you mean? If it's the state government, or the Federal government, after a legal determination, trial, conviction, and sentencing, it is an execution.

    Otherwise it's murder. Except in Democrat-run areas. In which case, it's no biggie.
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:28 PM (Jzd7W)

    Why are we arguing about semantics????

    They weren't the worst band on the planet.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (z9Eyh)

    384 380 Heh, Occasional Cortex's new glamour shot:
    http://tinypic.com/r/r7vfad/9
    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (RVcmP)

    LOL
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (z9Eyh)

    --Huh?

    I just saw ads.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (e7oj4)

    385 South Korea was a third world country as recently as the 1960s. Look at it now.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (0OWcv)

    -------

    Embracing Western culture has its rewards.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (UGqF8)

    386
    But the oranges are so sweet and tasty, and they give you the energy you need to take effective swings.

    =====

    Had to fish that one back up for the lolz.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (13CQC)

    387 So because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt I went to the golden standard of internet knowledge wikipedia and saw:

    "It is an act that may be done for financial gain, to avenge a grievance, from a desire to acquire fame or notoriety, or because of a military, security, insurgent or secret police group's command to carry out the homicide. "


    Yet another reason to disdain Wikipedia.

    Assassination refers to murder to achieve a political end. Period.

    "But if we had all shitheads killed we wouldn't have too many people left on this planet, huh?"

    I share your vision.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:35 PM (Jzd7W)

    388 She'd probably make a defense of multiculturalism out of that. "In case you hadn't noticed, a delicious pizza must undergo three completely different shapes before it can give you the full benefits of nutrition and tastiness."
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (13CQC)


    And that the Khmer Rouge tried to go right to the square box from the start, bypassing the natural Marxist progression of pizza. They didn't have the Right People In Charge.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:35 PM (t+qrx)

    389
    --Huh?

    I just saw ads.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (e7oj4

    =====

    You have to allow javascript or the like.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:35 PM (13CQC)

    390 Have a great night.

    May you be bragging, not complaining.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 15, 2019 11:35 PM (u82oZ)

    391 Why have a 500K sq ft office in NYC when you can 1M sq ft in Bumfuck, Idaho for a 1/25th of the cost?
    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at F



    kind of depends upon who the office is for.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:36 PM (MTjB1)

    392
    Cuomo is pissed off because that mook was actually going to run for president and now his state is going tits up.

    2020 will show Cuomo was a terrible governor and ran NY into the ground.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:36 PM (IMbi5)

    393 sure new york has its faults but there is no better place to get business done.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (MTjB1)


    That's true. And we have Joisey next door to dump the remains of those who don't want to do business with us.

    Posted by: The 5 Families at February 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Y8PSl)

    394 sure new york has its faults but there is no better place to get business done.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:31 PM (MTjB1)

    Ick. I'd rather live on a park bench in Fort Worth.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:37 PM (z9Eyh)

    395 Assassination: murder to achieve a political end
    Execution: state-performed killing following a legal proceeding
    Murder/manslaughter: pretty much everything else in which the perpetrator has culpability

    Simple, really.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Jzd7W)

    396 > AOC was going on and on on twitter about pizzas and a fake $300 coupon

    She's starting to sound a little desperate. I think it's starting to soak in just how bad she fucked up.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:38 PM (0OWcv)

    397 380 Heh, Occasional Cortex's new glamour shot:
    http://tinypic.com/r/r7vfad/9
    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:27 PM (RVcmP)

    LOL
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:32 PM (z9Eyh)

    --Huh?

    I just saw ads.
    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (e7oj4)

    It took a while to load.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:38 PM (z9Eyh)

    398 382 > Well there really is not an escape hatch from the third world. No graduation path.


    Sure there is. Embrace capitalism.

    South Korea was a third world country as recently as the 1960s. Look at it now.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (0OWcv)

    --The ROK is populated with high IQ peeps, unlike, say, Haiti.

    Smart peeps, ceteris paribus, embrace capitalism instead of socialism.

    Chicken/egg.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (e7oj4)

    399 Is there a better free image host than tinypic that doesn't have the dreaded I-M-G in the url?

    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (RVcmP)

    400 "First off, this is semi-retarded. What government do you mean? If it's
    the state government, or the Federal government, after a legal
    determination, trial, conviction, and sentencing, it is an execution. "

    Referring to your fellow conservatives, who are on your team, as semi-retarded doesn't exactly seem like the wisest of courses.
    And this is really a huge problem for all of us on the right. The left cooperates much more effectively.
    I'm a pretty sensitive person, and I can't lie, these kinds of comments are hurtful to me, and are the reason I only post here about every two months. I have to limit my exposure to the...who knows...I'm too dumb.


    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (JkygK)

    401 In a statement, de Blasio said, "You have to be tough to make it in New York City. We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world... If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."

    In a statement, the giraffe said, "You have to be tough to make it with me. I gave that giraffe chick the opportunity to be a good lay and bear the children of the greatest giraffe in the world... If she can't recognize what that's worth, her sister will."

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (P1f+c)

    402 She's starting to sound a little desperate. I think it's starting to soak in just how bad she fucked up.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:38 PM (0OWcv)


    She suddenly realized that there might be a Buick trunk with her name on it.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (Jzd7W)

    403 Stellastwocents I'm right there with you. Paterfamilias has been with my wife and I about a year and a half. ,Like your father he's a Korean vet. Have you reached out to the VA for assistance. They have programs to help give you some relief as the caregiver. It require his VA doctor writing a script. I am working on that one for myself at the moment. I can appreciate Pale Rider think I've seen that one at least a half a dozen times in the last 2 months try the early John Wayne movies the ones where he was under Studio contract you can usually find those in the cheap DVD sections about 20 movies for five bucks great Cowboy, comedy

    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (SLTeJ)

    404 Assassination: murder to achieve a political end

    Now that we have that settled, what other nits to pick?

    The Oxford comma?

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (lD3vL)

    405 LOVE how this civil rights attorney, like other libtards, are full-on Adam Smith when it comes to platforms like Twatter banning harmless free speech.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (e7oj4)

    406 she was not responsible for the amazon mess that was the city council.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (MTjB1)

    407 Why have a 500K sq ft office in NYC when you can 1M sq ft in Bumfuck, Idaho for a 1/25th of the cost?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (IMbi5)


    Because the commute on the F train would be horrendous.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (Y8PSl)

    408 It wasn't quite as bad as the pepperoni slices, but she did have this...

    Queens: Where did this $300 coupon come from?

    The borough talks.

    Posted by: JuJuBee at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (L31Sa)

    409 2020 will show Cuomo was a terrible governor and ran NY into the ground.
    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

    How did the Cuomos get past Ellis Island? You can tell just by looking at them they're all born criminals.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (gkstg)

    410 > Cuomo is pissed off because that mook was actually going to run for president and now his state is going tits up.


    Cummo will never be President.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (0OWcv)

    411
    Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)

    412 >>Polar bear invasion on Novaya Zemlya as 50 wild animals besiege remote town and 'chase people'
    ---
    Well, Duh!

    What else are we pollybears gonna do? Stand around eating vanilla ice cream cones in a snow storm?

    If we don't chase'em, we don't catch'em!
    If we don't catch'em, we don't eat'em!
    We Hooooongry Bears...

    Posted by: Hungry Polar Bears at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (aVmAZ)

    413 They were forced into charging tax; that was a legislative act.

    Tammy-san, they lobbied for it...

    Posted by: Adriane the Thesaurus Critic ... at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (LPnfS)

    414 > She suddenly realized that there might be a Buick trunk with her name on it.

    Yes. There's a reason why you don't hear about Puerto Rican gangs any more, but the Italian Mafia is still a thing.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (0OWcv)

    415 Embracing Western culture has its rewards.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:34 PM (UGqF


    Said no Social Justice Wanker ever.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (Y8PSl)

    416 Is there a better free image host than tinypic that doesn't have the dreaded I-M-G in the url?
    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (RVcmP)


    Use the imgur one, but use a tinyurl link to it. Or put the IMG part in all caps, the link should still work and it should get past the filter.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (t+qrx)

    417
    Why have a 500K sq ft office in NYC when you can 1M sq ft in Bumfuck, Idaho for a 1/25th of the cost?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:33 PM (IMbi5)

    ======

    People who relocate to Bumfuck -- or anywhere -- want more than just a solitary job, especially if they're going to have money to spend on consumables and entertainment.

    They want similar booming businesses around because they don't expect to hold their one job at Amazon for their entire career. So the environment has to be filled with industry and opportunity.

    At the same time, Amazon wants a location where they can draw on the local talent pool. If they build in Bumfuck, they'll have to pay relocation costs for 95% of their employees, what few they could get from the bottom of the barrel or from overseas.

    I believe single-employer towns are some kind of economic and political curiosity.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (13CQC)

    418 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at F



    every one of the guys that comes to visit us from their home office in the middle of nowhere.

    do you think there is a better city?

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (MTjB1)

    419 Posted by: Hungry Polar Bears at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (aVmAZ

    Ice Bear is hungry.

    Posted by: Ice Bear at February 15, 2019 11:43 PM (e7oj4)

    420 Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (JkygK)

    I stand by my comment. "The" government?" Which one? The local school district? The city? The county? The state? The Federal?

    I'm sorry to deprecate you, but you need to think more incisively. The school board is part of government, as is the city and county government. If THEY order someone's killing, that's clearly illegal.

    If it's the STATE or FEDERAL government, after a legal trial, conviction, and sentencing, then that's perfectly legal.

    Surely you see the difference.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:43 PM (Jzd7W)

    421 -
    --
    Or put the IMG part in all caps, the link should still work and it should get past the filter.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM

    ----------------

    Ah! Did not know that. Thanks.

    Posted by: irright at February 15, 2019 11:44 PM (RVcmP)

    422 I'm a pretty sensitive person, and I can't lie, these kinds of comments are hurtful to me, and are the reason I only post here about every two months. I have to limit my exposure to the...who knows...I'm too dumb.

    I'm OK with blue on blue here. DJG is a treasure.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:44 PM (lD3vL)

    423 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)

    I went there for work a few times. I think everyone should go there at least once. Just to see how god awful that he'll on earth really is.

    I apologize to those that live there, but get out of there and enjoy the rest of the country.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:44 PM (Rz2Nc)

    424 >>do you think there is a better city?


    In the world? Maybe.

    In America? No. Not even close.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:44 PM (GdNri)

    425 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)



    --Certainly the most self-important city in the world

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:45 PM (e7oj4)

    426
    How did the Cuomos get past Ellis Island? You can tell just by looking at them they're all born criminals.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (gkstg

    ======

    That's one family that should have had their nuts tased.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:45 PM (13CQC)

    427 Now, Amazon is going to be stuck with you hicks in
    NoVa or TN. ha ha hahahahahah.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 15, 2019 11:45 PM (ePWRo)

    428 I don't have a dog in this fight really; I'm a city guy who prefers cities to country life but is still relatively unimpressed with cities. But if I had to choose a US city other than where I am, I'd pick LA over NYC.

    Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (H5knJ)

    429 do you think there is a better city?

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (MTjB1)

    --Yes

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (e7oj4)

    430 >>--Certainly the most self-important city in the world


    San Francisco. By a long shot.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (GdNri)

    431
    Posted by: David Prince

    Well, bye, cuck.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (IMbi5)

    432 How did the Cuomos get past Ellis Island? You can tell just by looking at them they're all born criminals.


    Maybe they took the route some of my ancestors did indentured servitude

    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (SLTeJ)

    433 I kinda like Detroit.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (t+qrx)

    434 The Cuomos are all good little troopers.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (ePWRo)

    435 I went there for work a few times. I think everyone should go there at least once. Just to see how god awful that he'll on earth really is.

    I apologize to those that live there, but get out of there and enjoy the rest of the country.
    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at F



    graduated college, spent more than 20 years there. will likely go back in the near future.

    hating new york is stupid. there are strengths and weaknesses cities and small towns. have done both and neither is inherently superior.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

    436
    she was not responsible for the amazon mess that was the city council.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:40 PM (MTjB1)

    =====

    *looks around, moves to Y5 quietly*

    Sir, please have some respect. This is an AOC-bashing room.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (13CQC)

    437 At the same time, Amazon wants a location where they can draw on the local talent pool.

    Understood. Also, Amazon sells things so it helps to be near buyers and sellers. It would not surprise me if Amazon branched out into FinTech and a NYC presence is mandatory. Also, there are plenty of companies that would like to leverage the AWS cloud services and it helps to have consultants "down the street".

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (lD3vL)

    438 Amazon today.

    Dow Jones next year.

    Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (msHIq)

    439 Tammy-san, they lobbied for it...

    Posted by: Adriane the Thesaurus Critic ... at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (LPnfS)

    Well for fucks sake,why??
    Soothsayer, my apologies! I was wrong!!!!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (VLXcj)

    440 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)


    It's got some really nice views and is a great place to crash.

    Posted by: Mohammad Atta at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (Y8PSl)

    441 430 >>--Certainly the most self-important city in the world


    San Francisco. By a long shot.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (GdNri)

    --Maybe.

    Toronto would be #3.

    "The Centre of the Universe" as Canadians mockingly call it.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (e7oj4)

    442 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)

    Let me put it this way:

    If Iran nuked NYC, I'd send the ayatollahs a fruit basket.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (z9Eyh)

    443 At the same time, Amazon wants a location where they can draw on the local talent pool. If they build in Bumfuck, they'll have to pay relocation costs for 95% of their employees, what few they could get from the bottom of the barrel or from overseas.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia


    Local talent pool?

    What the fuck is that?

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 15, 2019 11:49 PM (0ogxh)

    444 I believe single-employer towns are some kind of economic and political curiosity.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM

    Yes. Yes indeed!

    Posted by: Washington, D.C. at February 15, 2019 11:49 PM (aVmAZ)

    445 It's got some really nice views and is a great place to crash.
    Posted by: Mohammad Atta at February 15, 2019 11:48 PM (Y8PSl)

    --LMAO

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:49 PM (e7oj4)

    446 Tweeting after some of Bogota's finest?
    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:03 PM (gkstg)


    Probably thinking Medellin.

    Bogota is known for the emerald museum, the Quinto de Bolivar, Monserrate, a lot of italianate governmental buildings, torrential downpours, and arepas.

    But Sandy-Chanclas probably is on adderal.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (mUa7G)

    447 It's got some really nice views and is a great place to crash.
    Posted by: Mohammad Atta

    I'm probably going to hell, but I laughed.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (gkstg)

    448 interestingly, of all the places I have been new yorkers were really some of the friendliest.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (MTjB1)

    449 If Iran nuked NYC, I'd send the ayatollahs a fruit basket.

    What would you sent them if they nuked Washington D.C.? Your first born daughter?

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (lD3vL)

    450 > But if I had to choose a US city other than where I am, I'd pick LA over NYC.

    "Los Angeles isn't a city. It's a condition."

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (0OWcv)

    451


    Posted by: David Prince at February 15, 2019 11:39 PM (JkygK)

    Oh, I wish you'd stick around a lil more. You might get used to these assholes eventually!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (VLXcj)

    452 hating new york is stupid. there are strengths and weaknesses cities and small towns. have done both and neither is inherently superior.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

    It's overrun with Leftist scum who vote for dumbfucks like deBlowhard. What else do you need to know?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:51 PM (z9Eyh)

    453 427 Now, Amazon is going to be stuck with you hicks in
    NoVa or TN. ha ha hahahahahah.
    Posted by: Braenyard



    Hicks in NoVA would be an improvement.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:51 PM (WNAuL)

    454
    The "muslim community patrol" is a nice touch.


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:51 PM (IMbi5)

    455 What would you sent them if they nuked Washington D.C.? Your first born daughter?
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (lD3vL)

    Maybe, she's a feminist.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (z9Eyh)

    456 I'm going to see what she thinks of fried green tomatoes.

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 10:34 PM (f1Vqw)

    It's gonna be just like the movie. Only without the murder.

    Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (NMAzL)

    457 every one of the guys that comes to visit us from their home office in the middle of nowhere.

    do you think there is a better city?


    Reminds me of modified version of a joke I used to tell with respect to a former university employer:

    "The answer is, 'home cooking, home fucking, and New York City.'"

    "The question is, 'What are the three most overrated things in the world?'"

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (Jzd7W)

    458 Live sex shows in Times Squre, three card monty on the sidewalk, no restrooms; what's not to like?

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (ePWRo)

    459 she was not responsible for the amazon mess that was the city council.
    Posted by: yankeefifth



    You might want to recheck that. She was one of the ones leading the charge.

    Bing "ny politicians opposing amazon hq" and see how many news reports mention her.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (nMj2X)

    460 Oh, I wish you'd stick around a lil more. You might get used to these assholes eventually!
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 15, 2019 11:50 PM (VLXcj)


    Why is everyone looking at me?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (Jzd7W)

    461
    Local talent pool?

    What the fuck is that?

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 15, 2019 11:49 PM (0ogxh

    =====

    A place where fish can fuck other fish.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (13CQC)

    462 Now, Amazon is going to be stuck with you hicks in
    NoVa or TN. ha ha hahahahahah.


    Stick with NoVa. They already have a major data center there. Leave TN alone, that is my intermediate step to Freedom when I have to leave TX because it goes Communist in a couple years.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (lD3vL)

    463 Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    -------

    I've been to:

    London
    Paris
    Hongkong
    Berlin
    Prague
    Monte Carlo
    Madrid
    Rome
    Cairo
    Jerusalem
    Budapest
    Amsterdam
    Brussels
    Munich
    Vienna
    Ho Chi Minh City
    Beijing
    Tokyo
    Barcelona
    Istanbul
    Kathmandu
    Tel Aviv
    Florence
    Saigon
    Seoul
    Marrakech
    Juneau
    Panama City
    Bangkok
    Honolulu
    Nuremberg
    Salzburg
    Macau
    Naples
    Casablanca


    Never been in Manhattan.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (UGqF8)

    464 LA and NYC are cultural wastelands.

    Yeah, POP culture-wise they're the tits, but in terms of genuine history and deep contributions to Americana, feh.

    Yay, Woody Allen and the Mob and Hollywood.

    Woo hoo.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (e7oj4)

    465 "The answer is, 'home cooking, home fucking, and New York City.'"

    "The question is, 'What are the three most overrated things in the world?'"
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


    You do that with all the appropriate Carnac the Magnificent flourishes, too, right?

    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 11:54 PM (P1f+c)

    466 You might want to recheck that. She was one of the ones leading the charge.

    Bing "ny politicians opposing amazon hq" and see how many news reports mention her.
    Posted by: rickb223 at F



    she may have been in the news but the city council was all over amazon, they were insisting amazon be union friendly and saying that if amazon did not want to be a company with their values they could just leave.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:54 PM (MTjB1)

    467 >> LA and NYC are cultural wastelands.

    Yeah, POP culture-wise they're the tits, but in terms of genuine history and deep contributions to Americana



    Yeah, literally No American History occured in NY.


    None.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)

    468 Why is everyone looking at me?

    Tammy said "these" (plural). Same boat, move over so I can better man the oar.

    (sigh)

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (lD3vL)

    469 430 >>--Certainly the most self-important city in the world

    San Francisco. By a long shot.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:46 PM (GdNri)


    Boston, a distant second. The "Hub of the Universe?" Really?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (Jzd7W)

    470 You have to be fucking kidding me?

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)

    471 "The answer is, 'home cooking, home fucking, and New York City.'"

    "The question is, 'What are the three most overrated things in the world?'"
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:52 PM (Jzd7W)

    --Regarding the first two: obviously, whoever thought up that joke never did time in prison.

    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 11:56 PM (e7oj4)

    472 Tammy said "these" (plural). Same boat, move over so I can better man the oar.

    (sigh)
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (lD3vL)


    You mean "person" the oar, don't you?

    H8ter.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:56 PM (Jzd7W)

    473 I enjoyed NYC when I visited it, but I don't think I could live there.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 11:56 PM (6a9Py)

    474
    You have to be fucking kidding me?

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)

    =====

    Evergreen post.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:56 PM (13CQC)

    475
    SF was the city in that South Park episode where they were smelling their own farts out of wine glasses, wasn't it?

    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 15, 2019 11:57 PM (f1Vqw)

    476 Yeah, literally No American History occured in NY.

    None.
    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)


    C'mon, that's not true. The Draft Riots of 1863 catapulted NYC to the top of the league tables in lynchings of blacks.

    Alabama is still trying to catch up.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (Jzd7W)

    477 SF was the city in that South Park episode where they were smelling their own farts out of wine glasses, wasn't it?
    Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear

    Yup

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (gkstg)

    478 I enjoyed NYC when I visited it, but I don't think I could live there.
    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 15, 2019 11:56 PM (6a9Py)


    Same, but to be fair, I've only been to Manhattan.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (t+qrx)

    479
    I was just thinking the other day about the new tower they built and how the completion of that symbolic building was the most anti-climactic event in history.

    It took over a decade to build it, because New York. That was Strike 1.

    Each year that passed after 9/11, the Rest Of Us grew to hate NYC more and more. Ungrateful people who were determined to repeat the mistakes that precipitated 9/11. That was Strikes 2 and 3. By the time the new tower was open, nobody outside Manhattan gave a shit.






    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (7boZp)

    480 ...I believe single-employer towns are some kind of economic and political curiosity.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 15, 2019 11:42 PM (13CQC)



    Industrial and manufacturing giants can lift a small, rural community from poverty to prosperity inside of a decade, simply by locating one single operating plant in that locale.

    They'll certainly hire local highly qualified talent for creative or management positions, but initially, most of those are imported from out of town. Takes a while to sort the local wheat from the local chaff, you see.

    For the most part though? That "single-employer" is the salvation of that otherwise forgotten town.

    I come from an industry that leveraged such frequently, as a way to keep their manufactured products "Made in U.S.A.", vs. offshoring the production.

    And it succeeded wildly, and still does. Those local folks KNOW that they got Christmas All Year when the mega corp opened the mega factory, out above the holler.

    That's an "(almost) everyone wins" situation, right there.

    To be sure, some folks catch hell in the doing. Trailer park slum lords, payday lenders...their business falls off precipitously when prosperity spreads throughout the town and region.



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX


    Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (QzJWU)

    481 475
    SF was the city in that South Park episode where they were smelling their own farts out of wine glasses, wasn't it?



    Heh! Yes, yes it was.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (WNAuL)

    482 You do that with all the appropriate Carnac the Magnificent flourishes, too, right?
    Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2019 11:54 PM (P1f+c)


    Of course!

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (Jzd7W)

    483 It's midnight!

    Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (DjIXP)

    484 C'mon, that's not true. The Draft Riots of 1863 catapulted NYC to the top of the league tables in lynchings of blacks.



    -----

    Go long on clotheslines and Windsor knots !

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (UGqF8)

    485 Something good about Long Island: seafood.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (ePWRo)

    486 hating new york is stupid. there are strengths and weaknesses cities and small towns. have done both and neither is inherently superior.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

    For me personally, I would disagree. I never lock my doors and keys are left in car without worry. Try that in a city. But I do understand some people like cities for whatever reason, god bless them.

    And since I had to find this out, I was actually conceived in the Lexington in Manhattan, I know this because I stayed there the first time I went to NYC for work, and my father thought he should tell me this, Dad, too much information! Lol

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:59 PM (Rz2Nc)

    487 Well howdy, old neighbor!



    I grew up in Holton.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:30 PM (z9Eyh)


    Wow. I know both places, as I used to commute to that big factory in Fremont that puts pureed stuff in jars for the Moms.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (8iiMU)

    488 It's midnight!
    Posted by: AshevilleRobert



    It's 11:05 in the non center of the universe.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (nMj2X)

    489 Boston, a distant second. The "Hub of the Universe?" Really?
    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (Jzd7W)

    Yup. Maybe 1st!

    Posted by: Washington, D.C. at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (aVmAZ)

    490 Yeah, literally No American History occured in NY.


    None.
    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)

    --I'm a Revolutionary War buff, but not a lot of monuments there in NYC. It's a bucket list destination, to be sure, but someplace to be adored? Nah.

    I'd rather book a trip to Ft. Ticonderoga before visiting NYC again.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (e7oj4)

    491 Hicks in NoVA would be an improvement.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:51 PM (WNAuL)

    So you've met some of the NoVA civil service types, eh?

    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2019 12:01 AM (f3oO4)

    492 the city council was all over amazon, they were insisting amazon be union friendly and saying that if amazon did not want to be a company with their values they could just leave.

    But if Amazon adopted "their values" wouldn't many of their officers land up in prison or civil court?

    just because the government and unions can engage in criminal, fraudulent, coercive and subversive activity doesn't mean that private businesses, especially those under SEC scrutiny can follow suit.

    Aren't these same hypocrites upset because Amazon hasn't had to pay taxes again this year?

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:01 AM (lD3vL)

    493 The closest I've been to NYC is JFK airport. Not a big city person. The biggest city I've ever been to was London. I was stationed in the UK and used to go there alot. NYC is kind of squeezed into a small space while London spreads out seemingly 20 miles in all directions. Not sure that is quite right but its just a huge city. I always had fun there but never wanted to live there.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:01 AM (WNAuL)

    494 And since I had to find this out, I was actually conceived in the Lexington in Manhattan, I know this because I stayed there the first time I went to NYC for work, and my father thought he should tell me this, Dad, too much information! Lol
    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 15, 2019 11:59 PM (Rz2Nc)


    For a second I thought you were going to say that the concierge mentioned it to you when you checked in.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (t+qrx)

    495
    she may have been in the news but the city council was all over amazon, they were insisting amazon be union friendly and saying that if amazon did not want to be a company with their values they could just leave.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2019 11:54 PM (MTjB1)

    Weren't most of the jobs in HQ2 going to be "white collar" engineering, systems admins, business types? Not a typical hotbed of union membership.

    One doesn't "look for the Union comment" on a piece of code.

    Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (astxc)

    496 Something good about Long Island: seafood.
    Posted by: Braenyard

    And they make great iced tea.

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (gkstg)

    497 Never been in Manhattan.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2019 11:53 PM (UGqF

    Now I'll contradict myself, but go to Manhattan. It's a wonderful place to visit.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

    498 491 Hicks in NoVA would be an improvement.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2019 11:51 PM (WNAuL)

    So you've met some of the NoVA civil service types, eh?
    Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar



    Yes. I live in Alexandria, work in DC.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:03 AM (WNAuL)

    499 Aren't these same hypocrites upset because Amazon hasn't had to pay taxes again this year?
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy


    Yet they totally overlook, and are a-ok with GE.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:03 AM (nMj2X)

    500 >>>It's midnight!
    Posted by: AshevilleRobert
    -------------------------------------------

    It's 11:05 in the non center of the universe.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (nMj2X)
    ------------


    And magnetic north is still racing toward Siberia at 25km a year. Faster than ever recorded in history.

    That's what's driving the lemmings.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 12:03 AM (ePWRo)

    501 "Industrial and manufacturing giants can lift a small, rural community
    from poverty to prosperity inside of a decade, simply by locating one
    single operating plant in that locale."

    The county I grew up in has two towns of any note. One has the paper mill which is still going. The other had a big plant (now long gone) that made fan belts and radiator hoses and such for cars, and also a fairly large shoe manufacturer that made boots for the army (also long gone). It does have a smaller annex of the paper mill that makes paper for milk cartons.
    Growing up it was most people worked at one of the three big plants.

    Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 16, 2019 12:04 AM (DjIXP)

    502 Each year that passed after 9/11, the Rest Of Us grew to hate NYC more and more. Ungrateful people who were determined to repeat the mistakes that precipitated 9/11. That was Strikes 2 and 3. By the time the new tower was open, nobody outside Manhattan gave a shit.






    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (7boZp)

    --Amen.

    Free health care for anyone who sneaks past the authorities and makes it to New York City!

    Woo hoo!

    [Cheers for fault zone underneath NYC]

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:04 AM (e7oj4)

    503 For a second I thought you were going to say that the concierge mentioned it to you when you checked in.
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (t+qrx)

    That would have been better than my father telling me he stayed there and mom came to visit and 9 months later I was born.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (Rz2Nc)

    504 Well howdy, old neighbor!



    I grew up in Holton.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 15, 2019 10:30 PM (z9Eyh)


    Wow. I know both places, as I used to commute to that big factory in Fremont that puts pureed stuff in jars for the Moms.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2019 12:00 AM (8iiMU)

    Lol, that's too funny. Coming from Muskegon?

    One of my sisters worked there forever til she was recently transferred.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (z9Eyh)

    505
    Weren't most of the jobs in HQ2 going to be "white collar" engineering,
    systems admins, business types? Not a typical hotbed of union
    membership.


    You misunderstand. The corrupt leftist NYC didn't want Amazon to be union in NYC...they wanted Amazon to be unionized.

    In other words, NYC was suggesting to Amazon they couldn't really have a HQ in NYC and be an "open shop" firm"

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (7boZp)

    506 NYC and DC are attached at the hip.

    Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (ePWRo)

    507
    She's starting to sound a little desperate. I think it's starting to soak in just how bad she fucked up.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:38 PM (0OWcv

    =====

    Let's see how her constituents react. HQ2 polled well with them. Classic Democrat move, take away their paycheck and replace it with a welfare check.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (13CQC)

    508 Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:58 PM (7boZp)

    ...

    Yes. And now all of I can think of it as is the place they lit up to celebrate third trimester abortion.

    I thought I might go back sometime and visit my nephew that lives there and that was one of the things I wanted to see that I didn't see last time.

    Now I don't think I ever want to visit again. I just don't understand how a city can celebrate that.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (6a9Py)

    509 there are shitty people in big cities and shitty people in tiny towns.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (MTjB1)

    510 Yeah, literally No American History occured in NY.

    Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2019 11:55 PM (GdNri)


    It was the setting for Barney Miller and Taxi.
    That counts for something.

    and Midnight Cowboy.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (1g7ch)

    511 Yes. I live in Alexandria, work in DC.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:03 AM (WNAuL)

    --Are you one of the carpetbaggers?

    I'll forgive you if you say yes, because Moron.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (e7oj4)

    512 London is my favorite city by far. Only one I'd choose to live in. I prefer living in the sticks and visiting cities occasionally.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (VLXcj)

    513 Now I'll contradict myself, but go to Manhattan. It's a wonderful place to visit.
    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:02 AM (Rz2Nc)


    ------

    I've tried. I've flown through New York dozens of times. But every time I've booked a trip into New York, some event has intervened. It's like I'm fated never to walk on a street in Manhattan.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (UGqF8)

    514 One doesn't "look for the Union comment" on a piece of code.

    Coders don't construct buildings, we just automate them.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (lD3vL)

    515 She's starting to sound a little desperate. I think it's starting to soak in just how bad she fucked up.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 15, 2019 11:38 PM (0OWcv

    =====

    Let's see how her constituents react. HQ2 polled well with them. Classic Democrat move, take away their paycheck and replace it with a welfare check.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia



    Her supporters are fine with it. It was going to be in the next district over from Donkey Chompers.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (nMj2X)

    516 "It was the setting for Barney Miller and Taxi.

    That counts for something.



    and Midnight Cowboy.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast"
    And Death Wish. (Original)

    Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (DjIXP)

    517 Well for fucks sake,why??
    Soothsayer, my apologies! I was wrong!!!!


    It helps put the smaller internet based companies out of business as they have less margin to pay the taxes than a giant like Amazon does ...

    Posted by: Adriane the Thesaurus Critic ... at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (LPnfS)

    518 506 NYC and DC are attached at the hip.
    Posted by: Braenyard



    Oddly, yes. Amazon chose NoVA because it wants to be closer to Capital Hill. Gotta keep an eye on those it bought.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (WNAuL)

    519 509 there are shitty people in big cities and shitty people in tiny towns.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (MTjB1)

    --It's all about who run them places, and therefore who vote for them.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (e7oj4)

    520 "I've tried. I've flown through New York dozens of
    times. But every time I've booked a trip into New York, some event has
    intervened. It's like I'm fated never to walk on a street in Manhattan.

    Posted by: Cicero"

    Visited once. Don't particularly see the need to do so again but wife wants to go.

    Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 16, 2019 12:09 AM (DjIXP)

    521 Let's see how her constituents react.

    I've been told that Amazon was going to hire more people than who voted for Donkey Chompers.

    (of those who knowingly voted for her)

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:09 AM (lD3vL)

    522 511 Yes. I live in Alexandria, work in DC.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:03 AM (WNAuL)

    --Are you one of the carpetbaggers?

    I'll forgive you if you say yes, because Moron.
    Posted by: logprof



    Heh! Maybe tech support for carpetbaggers.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:09 AM (WNAuL)

    523
    NYC was suggesting to Amazon they couldn't really have a HQ in NYC and be an "open shop" firm"

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (7boZp

    =====

    I'm still not clear on this, maybe because I don't know all the union terms. I also don't get how HQ2 could be unionized. Union-friendly, sure, pay an electrician $100/hr every time you need to unplug your monitor, but what else?

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:10 AM (13CQC)

    524 London is my favorite city by far. Only one I'd choose to live in. I prefer living in the sticks and visiting cities occasionally.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (VLXcj)

    -----

    London is one of my favorites too. Other places I could live: Paris, Hong Kong, Haifa, Israel.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:10 AM (UGqF8)

    525 "It was the setting for Barney Miller and Taxi.

    That counts for something.



    and Midnight Cowboy.

    Posted by: Burnt Toast"
    And Death Wish. (Original)
    Posted by: AshevilleRobert

    And Death Wish 3 (in which we were all killed, along with every other lifeform in the western hemisphere).

    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 16, 2019 12:11 AM (gkstg)

    526 Got a couple of quotes. That's about all can expect in this life.

    This is the only free place on the third blue planet. Please keep it safe. If I must be sacrificed, I do so willingly, so that the third blue planet may live.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 16, 2019 12:11 AM (l9m7l)

    527 509 there are shitty people in big cities and shitty people in tiny towns.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (MTjB1)

    Way fewer shitty people in tiny towns. That's why i'm heading to central Texas someday. Very few shitty people, i.e. Democrats.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:11 AM (z9Eyh)

    528
    Amazon has warehouse employees. IT employees. Etc.

    Are they unionized?

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:12 AM (7boZp)

    529 Oddly, yes. Amazon chose NoVA because it wants to be closer to Capital Hill. Gotta keep an eye on those it bought.

    Amazon needs that NoVa presence for the sinecureships it exchanges for political graft favors.

    Remember, Amazon has recently scored some pretty big FedGov contracts. Those who signed off on it have worthless nephews and nieces with "studies" degrees who are too entitled to work at Starbucks.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:12 AM (lD3vL)

    530 It helps put the smaller internet based companies out of business as they have less margin to pay the taxes than a giant like Amazon does ...
    Posted by: Adriane the Thesaurus Critic ... at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (LPnfS)


    I feel like there's something obvious I'm missing here. The vendors don't pay the state sales taxes, they charge them to the customer and pass them on to the state. And adding them to the transaction was a condition that states demanded if Amazon was going to open a warehouse or a hub or distribution center in that state.

    Or am I mistaken?

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:12 AM (t+qrx)

    531 -
    --

    For me personally, I would disagree. I never lock my doors and keys
    are left in car without worry. Try that in a city. But I do understand
    some people like cities for whatever reason, god bless them.

    ---------------------

    Same here. I don't even have any keys to my house. Haven't seen them in years.

    Posted by: irright at February 16, 2019 12:13 AM (RVcmP)

    532 512 London is my favorite city by far. Only one I'd choose to live in. I prefer living in the sticks and visiting cities occasionally.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (VLXcj)

    --Pretty much with you.

    Whatever, I'm bass-ackwards and loved Winnipeg ("not a great place to visit, but a nice place to live"), so call me a hick. Lived also in DC Metro, Dallas Metroplex, El Paso, Tidewater, Boston, Tallahassee, and Ningbo, but Winnipeg remains my fav. Super friendly people.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:13 AM (e7oj4)

    533
    Her supporters are fine with it. It was going to be in the next district over from Donkey Chompers.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (nMj2X)

    =====

    I did see some chit-chat online that her mom-and-pop business owners were looking forward to getting the customers. Blacks and Hispanics wanted Amazon while rich whiteys didn't.

    In the end maybe it doesn't matter, because I don't think those people make the connection between their vote and their economic situation.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (13CQC)

    534 you don't lock your doors in manhattan either, no one gets past the doorman so you don't need to lock your doors.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (MTjB1)

    535 Cicero you sound like some Reincarnation of Johnny Cash

    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (SLTeJ)

    536 I feel like there's something obvious I'm missing here. The vendors don't pay the state sales taxes, they charge them to the customer and pass them on to the state. And adding them to the transaction was a condition that states demanded if Amazon was going to open a warehouse or a hub or distribution center in that state.

    Or am I mistaken?
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:12 AM (t+qrx)


    Shhh. Dirty secret. Viable corporations don't pay taxes. They COLLECT them on behalf of whatever government imposes them, and take the heat therefor, thereby providing downfield blocking for the politicians who will benefit from the taxes collected.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (Jzd7W)

    537 New York, the city so dumb, they had to name it twice.

    Sure, I've been there. Rode my motorcycle around in Manhattan.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (4bd7D)

    538
    According to google, Amazon has 75 warehouses and 120K people in them.

    0 union employees.

    Amazon is an Open Shop employer. And NYC doesn't cotton to Open Shops. That'd have to change.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (7boZp)

    539 411
    Besides New Yorkers, who thinks NYC is the greatest city in the world?


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 15, 2019 11:41 PM (IMbi5)


    It probably used to be, at least through the 1950s and 1960s.

    Posted by: rickl at February 16, 2019 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

    540 London is my favorite city by far. Only one I'd choose to live in. I prefer living in the sticks and visiting cities occasionally.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (VLXcj)

    London is one of my favorites too. Other places I could live: Paris, Hong Kong, Haifa, Israel.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:10 AM (UGqF


    To my taste, Vancouver was the most beautiful city I've ever been to. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to live there though.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:15 AM (t+qrx)

    541 That's why i'm heading to central Texas someday. Very few shitty people, i.e. Democrats.

    Somebody sold you a bag of goods.

    Central Texas hosts Sodom of the South - Austin. Trust me, these Beto sycophants spread worse than kudzu through the neighboring counties.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:15 AM (lD3vL)

    542 there are shitty people in big cities and shitty people in tiny towns.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:06 AM (MTjB1)

    I live in the country, one neighbor is my wife's cousin that bought her father's dairy farm, rest of the neighbors are Amish or Mennonite that she grew up with, not a shitty person in the bunch. Yes, it's a unique situation.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:16 AM (Rz2Nc)

    543 I lived in Tampa for almost 5 years. 6 months out of the year it was great. The other 6 months it was like living in a greenhouse. You do get to see Florida Man in his natural environment.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:16 AM (WNAuL)

    544 Her supporters are fine with it. It was going to be in the next district over from Donkey Chompers.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2019 12:08 AM (nMj2X)


    The physical location, sure. But the Queens portion of her district would have had a fair number of her constituents working there. But Alexandria Donkey-Chompers is from the Bronx portion, so obviously she doesn't give a shit about those mostly white people in Queens.

    I have not forgotten her comment about Joe Crowley, butt boy of Nancy Pelosi and not my favorite pol by any means. When talking about Crowley during the 2018 primary campaign, she stated, 'Joseph Crowley is too white to represent this district anymore.' So on top of being stupid beyond all comprehension, she's a blatant racist, too. Funny how stupidity and racism seem to go hand-in-hand.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:17 AM (Y8PSl)

    545 To my taste, Vancouver was the most beautiful city I've ever been to. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to live there though.
    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:15 AM (t+qrx)

    --Not many of us could afford to live in Hongcouver.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:17 AM (e7oj4)

    546 That's why i'm heading to central Texas someday. Very few shitty people, i.e. Democrats.

    Somebody sold you a bag of goods.

    Central Texas hosts Sodom of the South - Austin. Trust me, these Beto sycophants spread worse than kudzu through the neighboring counties.
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:15 AM (lD3vL)

    Not talking Austin. I know they're the liberal shithole of Texas. West of there is where i'm talking, out in the boonies.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:17 AM (z9Eyh)

    547 Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:13 AM (e7oj4)

    Have yet to visit our beautiful northern cousins. I know I'd love many places, Vancouver and Montreal, in particular.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:18 AM (VLXcj)

    548 Lol, that's too funny. Coming from Muskegon?



    One of my sisters worked there forever til she was recently transferred.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:05 AM (z9Eyh)

    Further south actually.
    Dutchtown, where those tulips and wooden shoes are.
    Long ass commute while I was there.
    20, 20, and 20.
    Twenty minutes to the bridge in GH, twenty to M120, and twenty to teh plant.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2019 12:18 AM (8iiMU)

    549 I've tried. I've flown through New York dozens of times. But every time I've booked a trip into New York, some event has intervened. It's like I'm fated never to walk on a street in Manhattan.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:07 AM (UGqF

    You should at least do it for vacation then. I wouldn't ever live there, but it is a good place to visit.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:19 AM (Rz2Nc)

    550 535 Cicero you sound like some Reincarnation of Johnny Cash
    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (SLTeJ)

    -------

    Must be why I like this.


    https://tinyurl.com/mkn5b5p

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:19 AM (UGqF8)

    551 Oh. the Blue Ridge mountains at the fall of the night
    It sure feels good when you cross that line
    I'll tip my cup and holler at the moon
    I'll say-a-Great White North ... honey here's to you sleep tight ...

    I've gone crazy on this road ... with all of this travellin alone
    But the asphalt is burnin' tonight ...
    The New England Spring's been good to me
    There's been warmth to lend and good lines to sing
    But, how I miss my native tongue
    'cause ... New York City sorta brings out the stupids in me

    I've got one more stop down in Tennessee
    My sweetheart is there just a-waitin' on me

    Posted by: Nanci Griffith at February 16, 2019 12:19 AM (ZMWtN)

    552
    I've been told that Amazon was going to hire more people than who voted for Donkey Chompers.

    (of those who knowingly voted for her)

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:09 AM (lD3vL

    ======

    I bet there are a few disappointed people out in the hinterlands who were hoping to work at HQ2. I hope they were all libtards.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:19 AM (13CQC)

    553 Not talking Austin. I know they're the liberal shithole of Texas. West of there is where i'm talking, out in the boonies.

    Roger that.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:20 AM (lD3vL)

    554 My primary visit to Manhattan was at night.

    On a Honda Gold Wing.

    In the rain.

    Long ride, left San Antonio, made a wee detour through Orlando, FL to see the folks. Then, on up I-95.

    Overnighted in the D.C. outskirts, and next day made a visit through D.C., but pressed on through Jersey and through the tunnel on into Manhattan.

    This would've been, oh, '92 ish.

    I did find a very good pizza in Greenwich Village, but thereafter, rolled-on the throttle and made my way into CT for the night, before visiting a Corporate Location the next morning.

    Then onward to the Corporate H.Q. north of Boston, for a couple weeks of (mostly) B.S. meetings n' such.

    Factoid.

    Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.

    The NYC cabbies were horrible, and I had to keep my head on a swivel that'd put an owl to shame. But, lay on the horn, and press the bike over into the lane as needed, and they'd make room, even if only by a single inch.

    Boston drivers wouldn't give that inch. They wanted to me dead, or somewhere behind them in traffic.

    Prudently, I let 'em power on ahead. Cause it was vital that they made that exit five miles ahead, one car length further along the road.



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:21 AM (QzJWU)

    555 > 'Joseph Crowley is too white to represent this district anymore.'

    While she's banging a white dude.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (0OWcv)

    556 Have yet to visit our beautiful northern cousins. I know I'd love many places, Vancouver and Montreal, in particular.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:18 AM (VLXcj)

    --The Basilica of Notre-Dame in Montreal is spectacular (it gets a nice mention in my upcoming novel) --the French, for all their faults, made amazing places of worship-- and the walls of Quebec are also worth a visit.

    I first saw Stanley Park in Vancouver in 2007 after a devastating storm had felled trees all over it, and it was still stunning.

    Like Europe, do see Canuckistan before it turns Koranimal.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (e7oj4)

    557 Further south actually.
    Dutchtown, where those tulips and wooden shoes are.
    Long ass commute while I was there.
    20, 20, and 20.
    Twenty minutes to the bridge in GH, twenty to M120, and twenty to teh plant.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2019 12:18 AM (8iiMU)

    Dayum, that must have sucked in the winter sometimes.

    My ex sister in law had to go the other way.... Holton to Holland. No thanks.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (z9Eyh)

    558 not that I really care what anyone thinks of ny, however, I do find it surprising that the same people that are irritated by the fact that they think everyone between ny and la is a sister-fucking mud farmer, thinks that everyone in ny is some liberal, gay ass-whore, banker.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (MTjB1)

    559 Stir fry soon, with new and strange (and forbidden ingredients)--who knows? Not me for obvious reasons.
    Boy do I wish I was dead.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (l9m7l)

    560 If I were forced by some horrible life circumstance, I could probably live in Denver, Charleston, Atlanta, Savannah, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Portland or Boston, either because I had sufficient friends and family there, or liked the scenery, or something.
    Please God it will never be necessary.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:24 AM (VLXcj)

    561 no small irony in the fact that the guy that founded this here blog is in ny.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:24 AM (MTjB1)

    562 Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.


    Jim
    -----------

    Yeah, I've motorcycled in Boston also. Bad drivers, indeed.

    Posted by: Nanci Griffith at February 16, 2019 12:24 AM (HTHlp)

    563
    Amazon is an Open Shop employer. And NYC doesn't cotton to Open Shops. That'd have to change.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:14 AM (7boZp

    ======

    Wow. So the unionistas in New York wanted Amazon to change up their shops in other states? Pretty cheeky.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:25 AM (13CQC)

    564 Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.

    The NYC cabbies were horrible, and I had to keep my head on a swivel that'd put an owl to shame. But, lay on the horn, and press the bike over into the lane as needed, and they'd make room, even if only by a single inch.
    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:21 AM (QzJWU)


    This has been my experience too. Boston drivers are aggressive and vindictive way beyond their skill would give them any right to be. NYC driving is Darwinian, that's all. NYC drivers don't hate you, they just don't care. Huge difference.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 12:25 AM (t+qrx)

    565 Factoid.

    Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.

    --Truth.

    Massholes. Lived there for two years, and while I loved the history and architecture, the driving was hell (thank dog I commuted to most of my jobs there with the T).

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:25 AM (e7oj4)

    566 ny won't let walmart in because they are not union.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (MTjB1)

    567 I have a bias towards Pittsburgh but I grew up near it. Western PA has seen better days but it still has some really nice rural areas.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (WNAuL)

    568

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:23 AM (MTjB1)

    It's because we have met so many of them as they moved into our areas and turn them into liberal shitholes.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (VLXcj)

    569 > Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.

    I was a pedestrian in Boston and Cambridge for several days once.

    Not recommended.

    Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (0OWcv)

    570 Boston drivers are the worst I've encountered. Highly aggressive, low skilled and rude.

    Worst I've ever encountered in the world, and I went there with a new car. They're even worse than Italians, and that's saying something.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (Jzd7W)

    571 Cicero almost laughing too hard to type

    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (SLTeJ)

    572 Have yet to visit our beautiful northern cousins. I know I'd love many places, Vancouver and Montreal, in particular.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:18 AM (VLXcj)


    I actually loved The Maritimes when I visited there. Stayed at a B and B in a small town 20 or so minutes away from Halifax, doing day trips to Halifax and points further north. Great weather, too. But then, I'm a sucker for pretty much any ocean coastline area.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (Y8PSl)

    573 dude, ny cabbies are the closest thing to a hitman most people will ever hire. tell him you are paying him in cash before the fare starts and he likely will run over people for you.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (MTjB1)

    574 Not talking Austin. I know they're the liberal shithole of Texas. West of there is where i'm talking, out in the boonies.

    Roger that.
    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:20 AM (lD3vL)

    There's a cluster of counties out there that went anywhere from 75 percent Trump up to 90 percent Trump. County of first choice went 83 percent Trump.

    Small towns in Travis county were eliminated thanks to Austin.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (z9Eyh)

    575
    When talking about Crowley during the 2018 primary campaign, she stated, 'Joseph Crowley is too white to represent this district anymore.'

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:17 AM (Y8PSl

    ====

    Kee-rist, I hadn't heard of that. I wonder if he knew at that moment that his death knell had rung.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:28 AM (13CQC)

    576 I bet there are a few disappointed people out in the hinterlands who were hoping to work at HQ2. I hope they were all libtards.

    I was and still am heavily recruited by Amazon for their Austin office at The Domain.

    So I relented and decided to check the place out. Cameras everywhere. The two Mills sitting in the foyer snakepit checking in guests looked soulless, thousand mile stares.

    The foyer furniture looked like a college campus frathouse. The office furniture was barely one step above folding tables, the chairs, bare minimum office, the computers, no name machines with crappy monitors. People sit shoulder to shoulder with all the fluorescent lights on and the blinds closed to the outside world.

    Pay was ok - around $200k, but it wasn't worth exchanging my soul over. I know a number of people who have worked there, basically it is very competitive where people can abandon a team and join another which is very disruptive. Many people develop drug habits, amphetamines to make it through the day, barbs to sleep at night. Antianxiety medications throughout.

    I think the work would be challenging and fulfilling (under NDA so shouldn't discuss). Given what I have seen, Amazon can and should change the world their advertisements about "not every idea ..." is accurate.

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:28 AM (lD3vL)

    577 Bostonians are actual honkies. Never in my life have I heard so much honking, ever, not even in Manhattan.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (VLXcj)

    578
    I think the plan was for Amazon to "evolve."

    For instance, Amazon announced in Oct 2018 it'd pay all their lowly employees $15/hr. Yay!

    That was a bone to the Leftists in NYC.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (DxThd)

    579 Favorite Johnny Cash song is his cover of Nine Inch Nails Hurt he does it better than Nine Inch Nails

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

    Posted by: Sock Monkey at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (SLTeJ)

    580 I think James Woods is most likely right, there.
    Posted by: eleven at February 15, 2019 09:54 PM (NLLmE)

    There's actually five people in the picture, and it wouldn't surprise if all five were Democrats.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (nPGq2)

    581 It's because we have met so many of them as they moved into our areas and turn them into liberal shitholes.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at F



    sister, it goes both ways. we are in denver / boulder right now. weirdest thing is that most of the people we have met and become friends with are from everywhere but colorado.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (MTjB1)

    582
    Never in my life have I heard so much honking, ever, not even in Manhattan.

    We got no patience for dilly-dallyers behind the wheel.


    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:30 AM (DxThd)

    583 I actually loved The Maritimes when I visited there. Stayed at a B and B in a small town 20 or so minutes away from Halifax, doing day trips to Halifax and points further north. Great weather, too. But then, I'm a sucker for pretty much any ocean coastline area.
    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (Y8PSl)

    --Beautiful corner of the world, as is Newfoundland and Labrador --but don't dare call NL a Maritime province! (Nor confuse St. John's with Saint John)

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:30 AM (e7oj4)

    584 horn honking is stress relief, embrace it.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:30 AM (MTjB1)

    585 Y5!

    You know you are just upset that NYC is not the same without you there and you are here in the shithole of Colorado

    Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at February 16, 2019 12:30 AM (c1nDO)

    586 571 Cicero almost laughing too hard to type
    Posted by: Sock monkey at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (SLTeJ)
    -------

    That guy is awesome.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:31 AM (UGqF8)

    587 WDS!



    Best thing about colorado, after Mrs. YankeeFifth, is you. unsurprisingly, you are not a NATIVE.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:32 AM (MTjB1)

    588 Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:27 AM (Y8PSl)

    I was just thinking of cities. PEI will be this Anne-fangurl's first Canadian stop, then on to whatever town it was that housed so many September 11 travelers, to pay my respects for their kindness. Gander, maybe?

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:32 AM (VLXcj)

    589 Kee-rist, I hadn't heard of that. I wonder if he knew at that moment that his death knell had rung.

    Are you kidding me?

    Justice Sodomizer swept through the Senate confirmation hearing telling them she was a racist and sexist (aka 'wise Latina')

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:33 AM (lD3vL)

    590 I spent three days in New York on business in the 80s cabbies scared the living sh** out of me I drove a semi for a while as a kid so I think that's saying something

    Posted by: Sock Monkey at February 16, 2019 12:33 AM (SLTeJ)

    591 579 Favorite Johnny Cash song is his cover of Nine Inch Nails Hurt he does it better than Nine Inch Nails

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc
    Posted by: Sock Monkey at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (SLTeJ)

    --Trent Reznor himself said Cash bested him with that song.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:33 AM (e7oj4)

    592 Someone should send those people in Siberia a few cases of White Claw. That should chill the bears out.
    Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 15, 2019 10:02 PM (gkstg)

    Some packages of cheap wieners, attached to a small explosive charge ought to scare them off. Not enough explosives to maim, just to scare the shit out of them.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 12:33 AM (nPGq2)

    593 I'd rather the people in Boston communicate via horn alone than have to talk to one of them, what with that retahded accent.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:34 AM (GdNri)

    594 Talent pool.

    I'm still laughing at this and I don't know why.

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 16, 2019 12:34 AM (0ogxh)

    595 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:29 AM (MTjB1)

    Yea, they're all from liberal shitholes.
    And I"m sorry, but you can't tell me Bubba Q. Hillbilly does anywhere near the same kind of irreparable damage when he moves to the Big City.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:35 AM (VLXcj)

    596 593 I'd rather the people in Boston communicate via horn alone than have to talk to one of them, what with that retahded accent.
    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:34 AM (GdNri)

    --I often used my chahge cahd at the Stah Mahket.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:35 AM (e7oj4)

    597 Those muskets had pointy things on the ends that would go clean through a torso.

    Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2019 12:35 AM (i5sQK)

    598 You are correct Y5?.......I am not a native. But both Mr. WDS and I have been for.....cough cough......35 years.

    Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at February 16, 2019 12:37 AM (c1nDO)

    599 I have a 'drivers' story. When I was in Buenos Aires, finance clients of my ex drove me around, one time at night. I noticed very few of the cars had their headlights on. I asked the driver why that was. She said, and I quote, "That's why we have streetlights."

    Buenos Aires, the Paris of South America, is gorgeous. Same shitty lefty politics as New York. We even have our own Eva Peron now.

    When I used to go to Boston on business, I'd rent a car and drive out of Logan to points north. Massholes are the absolute worst drivers I've ever encountered, with the roundabouts being seriously 'white knuckle' driving. Maryland/Joisey drives are in a tight race for second.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:37 AM (Y8PSl)

    600 ...Worst I've ever encountered in the world, and I went there with a new car. They're even worse than Italians, and that's saying something.

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2019 12:26 AM (Jzd7W)



    Short motorcycle resume.

    Long before I bought my first Gold Wing, I was a pretty good dirt-bike pusher. Grew up in Southern CA, in the "On Any Sunday" era. My first owned bike was a Hodaka Ace 100.

    Learned to "not suck" on the track on a Yamaha RD-350, with one ride at Riverside back when the place existed.

    Many, MANY streetbikes in the pre-'Wing logbook, 'tween '74 and '83.

    Bought my first 'Wing, when I was but 22 years old. An '82 model, bought in '83. Rode it to a rally, and people were wondering what I was doing on my Dad's bike. lol

    I already HAD all the "go fasties" out of my system by then. I had Touring and Horizons in mind, ever since I was fifteen years old.

    Point is though, I did not come to "touring motorcycles" as an unskilled novice.

    All that to say this.

    Twice in Boston, I put the 'Wing up onto a downtown sidewalk, to avoid some kamikaze driver intent on sinking my battleship.

    Never had to do that before, or since.



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:37 AM (QzJWU)

    601
    What do you think Kaiser Wilhelm meant when he said Amazon couldn't "be a good neighbor?"

    Amazon had enough of NYC's leftist bullshit.

    Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2019 12:38 AM (WA+jL)

    602 You are correct Y5?.......I am not a native. But both Mr. WDS and I have been for.....cough cough......35 years.
    Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at F



    you know colorado is better for your being here. they should have wds day.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:38 AM (MTjB1)

    603
    Must be why I like this.


    https://tinyurl.com/mkn5b5p

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 12:19 AM (UGqF8

    =====

    That was funny.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:38 AM (13CQC)

    604 601: NoVA's leftist bullshit is much more benign.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 12:39 AM (WNAuL)

    605 garrett, if you are not sick of me, I have a list of Hornstein that Thor does have. It's more than I realized, so if you'd rather not be bothered looking, I will understand!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:39 AM (VLXcj)

    606 garrett, if you are not sick of me, I have a list of Hornstein that Thor does have. It's more than I realized, so if you'd rather not be bothered looking, I will understand!
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at F



    when did someone ever complain that they had had too much MissTammy?

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:40 AM (MTjB1)

    607 Point is though, I did not come to "touring motorcycles" as an unskilled novice.







    Jim

    Sunk New Dawn

    Galveston, TX



    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:37 AM (QzJWU)


    So in other words, you really have no excuse. lol

    Kidding, juuuussst kidding.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:41 AM (9Om/r)

    608 Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:37 AM (QzJWU)

    On Any Sunday is Thor's favorite movie, I swear to God.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:41 AM (VLXcj)

    609 Yea, they're all from liberal shitholes.
    And I"m sorry, but you can't tell me Bubba Q. Hillbilly does anywhere near the same kind of irreparable damage when he moves to the Big City.
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:35 AM (VLXcj)

    --I'm a hick from Tidewater, and I voted Democrat when I lived in Somerville --for Ray Flynn, former Mayor of Boston and a pro-life Catholic, for the House. Alas, the shithead Machine Democrat (former mayor of Somerville) Capuano won out.

    We Moron types are spitting in the wind in those Democrat rotten boroughs.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:41 AM (e7oj4)

    610 Kee-rist, I hadn't heard of that. I wonder if he knew at that moment that his death knell had rung.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:28 AM (13CQC)


    Yeah, that comment of hers didn't get much airplay and now firmly resides deep down the memory hole. Yet if a Republican had said it of hispanics, . . . .

    But the media is NOT biased. They've told me so -- and they would know.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 12:42 AM (Y8PSl)

    611 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:40 AM (MTjB1)

    Everyone on any given ONT at some point or other?

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:43 AM (VLXcj)

    612 Oh please Y5......you are wading in some deep shit right there

    Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at February 16, 2019 12:43 AM (c1nDO)

    613 Everyone on any given ONT at some point or other?
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at F



    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:43 AM (MTjB1)

    614 Massholes are the absolute worst drivers I've ever encountered, with the roundabouts being seriously 'white knuckle' driving. Maryland/Joisey drives are in a tight race for second.

    Heh. I met with a client who had moved here from Mass today. He was grousing after his commute that "Maryland drivers suck".

    I just stared at him and said "You're from Mass and you're saying we suck?"

    And BTW, you're the one who decided to live north of Baltimore but work 2 miles from the DC line. I'm just sayin'.

    Posted by: Weirddave at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (4nF/x)

    615 ...So in other words, you really have no excuse. lol

    Kidding, juuuussst kidding.


    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:41 AM (9Om/r)



    *parks GL-1800 atop Berserker's favorite git-fiddle*


    What? Sorry, couldn't hear you, my Gold Wing was too loud!

    What's that? Oh, yeah.

    Loud bike stereos save lives, right!


    /snrk



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (QzJWU)

    616 when did someone ever complain that they had had too much MissTammy?
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:40 AM (MTjB1)

    *cough* *hack* *belch*

    Posted by: Mr. Tammy at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (z9Eyh)

    617 Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:41 AM (e7oj4)

    Yep.
    The Blue Ridge sends her very warmest regards to the Tidewater!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (VLXcj)

    618 I am constantly informed by people from New York how much better this place is for their presence.

    It underlies a not-so-subtle attitude that I owe them something.

    They, of course, even have an organization, 'New Neighbors', which consists entirely of their own ilk.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (ZMWtN)

    619 Why are so many Morons siding with Bezos?

    There are no good guys in Amazon v. NYC, but I'm sick of liberal shitholes sucking tax dollars from country deplorables to import more libtard jobs, whether it's Mototrola in IL or Amazon in VA.

    Amazon planting an HQ2 in BFE, NY, would be cool. In NYC? For real? Let Amazon settle there its own damn self, no perks.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (e7oj4)

    620 Soothsayer,
    I'm sorry that you think I am a cuck. How could I convince you differently? If I donated 100 bucks to the blog, would that work?
    DJG:I will think about it. It's the term "legal" that concerns me.


    Posted by: David Prince at February 16, 2019 12:47 AM (JkygK)

    621 Tammy -

    Be easier for me to look through what I have on the shelf and in the boxes and let you know if I have any at all.

    Probably be a few days. But I won't forget to comb through there for you.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:47 AM (GdNri)

    622
    Kee-rist, I hadn't heard of that. I wonder if he knew at that moment that his death knell had rung.

    Are you kidding me?

    Justice Sodomizer swept through the Senate confirmation hearing telling them she was a racist and sexist (aka 'wise Latina')

    Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at February 16, 2019 12:33 AM (lD3vL)

    ====

    Crowley was a white male liberal who hung on many years beyond that. I bet he was shocked when the permanent job he was entitled to was ripped out from under him by that 20-something bartender.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:47 AM (13CQC)

    623 Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at February 16, 2019 12:43 AM (c1nDO)

    See there, Yankke5th, what did I tell you?!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:47 AM (VLXcj)

    624 Here is how brilliant Hungary's strategy is.

    Trumpsters, take notes.

    https://youtu.be/3Z4woNYMyz8
    Posted by: logprof at February 15, 2019 10:02 PM (e7oj4)

    Excellent video. Well produced, good speaker who speaks at a measured pace, crystal-clear enunciation. Gets the point across. The graphic of all the smuggling ships was very compelling. Poland and Hungary need to scare up a U-boat and sink those fuckers.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 12:48 AM (nPGq2)

    625 I enjoyed Boston.

    It's like a small big city, if that makes any sense.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 12:48 AM (6a9Py)

    626 Yep.
    The Blue Ridge sends her very warmest regards to the Tidewater!
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (VLXcj)

    --One of the most beautiful places in America, if not the planet.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:49 AM (e7oj4)

    627 Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:47 AM (GdNri)

    No rush whatsoever, and if you wait long enough, I'll likely forget all about it anyway!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:49 AM (VLXcj)

    628 Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:49 AM (e7oj4)

    You'll get no argument from me!

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:50 AM (VLXcj)

    629 *cough* *hack* *belch*
    Posted by: Mr. Tammy at F



    you definitely would not be Mr. Tammy if you are choking on pubes. We know for a fact she is hardwood.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:50 AM (MTjB1)

    630
    Excellent video. Well produced, good speaker who speaks at a measured pace, crystal-clear enunciation. Gets the point across. The graphic of all the smuggling ships was very compelling. Poland and Hungary need to scare up a U-boat and sink those fuckers.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 12:48 AM (nPGq2)

    --Black Pigeon is a hoser, to boot (to boat?).

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (e7oj4)

    631 >>No rush whatsoever, and if you wait long enough, I'll likely forget all about it anyway!


    I know. I used to married!

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (GdNri)

    632 Why are so many Morons siding with Bezos?

    There are no good guys in Amazon v. NYC, but I'm sick of liberal shitholes sucking tax dollars from country deplorables to import more libtard jobs, whether it's Mototrola in IL or Amazon in VA.

    Amazon planting an HQ2 in BFE, NY, would be cool. In NYC? For real? Let Amazon settle there its own damn self, no perks.
    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (e7oj4)

    I didn't take it as peeps "siding" with Bezos as much as enjoying NYC get their comeuppance.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (z9Eyh)

    633 What? Sorry, couldn't hear you, my Gold Wing was too loud!






    Jim

    Sunk New Dawn

    Galveston, TX



    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (QzJWU)

    Surely you jest. lol
    I remember meeting an older dude out in Sturgis one year. The guy was in his early 70's if I remember right. He had a gold wing with 300K miles on it. What a colorful character he was, this guy was a riot, a true Moron. He practically recapped all 300K miles of that goldwing in the conversation. I talked to him for probably 2 hours. He gave a me his card. I wish I could find it, it was hysterical. It said shit like, riots quelled, wars started, piracy. really funny shit. Man he loved that goldwing.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 12:52 AM (9Om/r)

    634 But I won't forget. I need to playgrade about 500 Classical LPs in the next couple weeks.

    Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2019 12:52 AM (GdNri)

    635 Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.
    Posted by: Tuna at February 15, 2019 10:14 PM (jm1YL)

    That looks like the interior of a Calgary streetcar (aka "C-train").

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2019 12:52 AM (nPGq2)

    636 you definitely would not be Mr. Tammy if you are choking on pubes. We know for a fact she is hardwood.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:50 AM (MTjB1)

    We do? Why do I not know this?

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:53 AM (z9Eyh)

    637 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2019 12:46 AM (ZMWtN)

    NC is Ground Zero for the Yankee Invasion. Although I will say the last time I was in downtown Atlanta, I was horrified.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:53 AM (VLXcj)

    638 Also, I can't believe those people just sat there while the older woman clung to pole.

    ....

    That looks like the interior of a Calgary streetcar (aka "C-train").

    .....

    Or a West Virginia strip club.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 12:54 AM (6a9Py)

    639 I didn't take it as peeps "siding" with Bezos as much as enjoying NYC get their comeuppance.
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (z9Eyh)

    Yes, it proved high taxes is bad for business. As a customer I saw my cost of dealing with amazon rising.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 12:54 AM (Rz2Nc)

    640 I enjoyed Boston.

    It's like a small big city, if that makes any sense.
    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 12:48 AM (6a9Py)

    Useless Trivia:

    Apparently Boston, San Francisco and one other fairly large US city can fit within the borders of Detroit.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:55 AM (z9Eyh)

    641 ...I enjoyed Boston.

    It's like a small big city, if that makes any sense.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 12:48 AM (6a9Py)



    The TOWN doesn't suck, nearly as much as the drivers.

    Best pizza I've enjoyed is at Santarpio's Pizza. Buncha guinea dudes lookin' like retired wiseguys, running a place with a constant line of people waiting to get in.

    111 Chelsea St., East Boston.

    And yes, that's from memory.

    Upscale?

    Go to Davio's Italian Steakhouse, Arlington, St., Boston.

    The original used to be in THE shopping district on Newbury St., but got crowded out and no parking'ed out.

    My former boss' son owns the Davio's restaurants. I know the family well, and those places ARE at the upper end of the high end Italian food chain.

    Their Italian Sausage.... they make it in house, from scratch, and it's the best you'll ever have.



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 12:55 AM (QzJWU)

    642 you definitely would not be Mr. Tammy if you are choking on pubes. We know for a fact she is hardwood.
    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:50 AM (MTjB1)

    We do? Why do I not know this?
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at F


    since the ancien commenters have begun leaving these things get less coverage.

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:57 AM (MTjB1)

    643 didn't take it as peeps "siding" with Bezos as much as enjoying NYC get their comeuppance.
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at F




    what he said

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (MTjB1)

    644 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 12:50 AM (MTjB1)
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:53 AM (z9Eyh)


    We have had this conversation before, I believe; no one in my bed is choking on pubes, but Thor does not do full hardwood. It creeps him out. There is a wee bit of area rug, to signify Grown Woman, not prepubescent child. He is of a different generation than you weirdos, I suspect.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (VLXcj)

    645 I've got a bunch of family in Gilmer and Dawson in Georgia, and Polk and Bradley in TN.

    East Tennessee has some neat history. It was most likely going to secede from TN and remain Union but Nashville sent troops to occupy and hold it. Lincoln put priority on East TN because of the sympathies there and there was an active guerilla effort by the East against Confederate interests.

    Here is my greaty, great great:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7160280/william-baliles

    Posted by: David Prince at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (JkygK)

    646
    Why are so many Morons siding with Bezos?

    There are no good guys in Amazon v. NYC

    =====

    I'm not siding with Bezos, I'm just saying the New Yorkers who chased him out blew it. I do get some satisfaction from the fact that in the commie vs commie fight, the street fighters of New York were too much for the sophisticates of Amazon.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2019 12:59 AM (13CQC)

    647 Why has no one wished Miley a happy birthday?

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:59 AM (VLXcj)

    648 The TOWN doesn't suck, nearly as much as the drivers.



    I enjoyed all the history of Boston. Such a storied place.

    Plus, I liked the giant squirrels in the Boston Commons. I bet they would be fun to hunt if you could shoot inside the city limits.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2019 01:00 AM (6a9Py)

    649 Apparently Boston, San Francisco and one other fairly large US city can fit within the borders of Detroit.
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:55 AM (z9Eyh)


    Well, it's not like there's much Detroit to get in the way any more.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:00 AM (t+qrx)

    650 We have had this conversation before, I believe; no one in my bed is choking on pubes, but Thor does not do full hardwood. It creeps him out. There is a wee bit of area rug, to signify Grown Woman, not prepubescent child. He is of a different generation than you weirdos, I suspect.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at F



    so what do they call that? bark edged?

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 01:00 AM (MTjB1)

    651 Why has no one wished Miley a happy birthday?
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:59 AM (VLXcj)

    ---------


    *stares ackwardly at shoes*

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2019 01:00 AM (UGqF8)

    652 649 Apparently Boston, San Francisco and one other fairly large US city can fit within the borders of Detroit.
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:55 AM (z9Eyh)

    Well, it's not like there's much Detroit to get in the way any more.
    Posted by: hogmartin



    Heh!

    Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2019 01:01 AM (WNAuL)

    653 I didn't take it as peeps "siding" with Bezos as much as enjoying NYC get their comeuppance.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (z9Eyh)


    I agree. Living in Donkey-Chompers Congressional District, Bezos shoving a barbed-wire wrapped pineapple up de Bolshevik's and Cuomo's asses is glorious seeing as how they were salivating at the thought of an Amazon HQ in Queens. I'm also siding with Bezos based upon business principles as in 'don't tell me how to run my business'. But I think the state/city went waaaay overboard in their abatements/tax breaks for such a mega-corp, once again screwing the small business owner (and major job creator) who can never get such abatements/tax breaks.

    I see the whole thing as one lefty asshole (Bezos) got skewered, much to his surprise, by lefty assholes (de Bolshevik, Cuomo and Donkey-Chompers, to name three), then skewered them right back by saying 'take my HQ and shove it'. There are no winners in this story, only asshole losers, and that's why I find it so entertaining.

    Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2019 01:01 AM (Y8PSl)

    654 Wonder if the streetcars, trams, buses in Russia still have the signs in the front saying "For invalids, mothers, veterans of the war".


    The "war" in question (late 70s) was, of course, The Big One. Or, The Great Patriotic War, as WWII is known there.


    Current day me would have spent a lot more time trying to talk with the older guys with medals on their coats (they still did that then), and the guys sitting in those sections.


    Funny, I ended up sitting opposite an old German guy just after leaving Leningrad, train from Saarbrucken to Paris, and we chatted. Explained I'd spent a semester in Leningrad; he smiled, showed me a scar/lump on his forearm, said he'd spent one winter there himself.

    Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2019 01:01 AM (QDnY+)

    655 Posted by: David Prince at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (JkygK)

    And here I encouraged you to stick around!
    I think northern GA and AL were thus inclined, as well.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 01:02 AM (VLXcj)

    656 We have had this conversation before, I believe; no one in my bed is choking on pubes, but Thor does not do full hardwood. It creeps him out. There is a wee bit of area rug, to signify Grown Woman, not prepubescent child. He is of a different generation than you weirdos, I suspect.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (VLXcj)

    A very good friend of mine used to shave down there, but when she had her daughter she quit shaving, grown women equals hair, shaved clean is child.

    Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 16, 2019 01:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

    657 night

    Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2019 01:02 AM (MTjB1)

    658 Why has no one wished Miley a happy birthday?
    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:59 AM (VLXcj)


    Her last post was over an hour ago. Quandoque bonus dormitat Miley.

    Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2019 01:02 AM (t+qrx)

    659 We have had this conversation before, I believe; no one in my bed is choking on pubes, but Thor does not do full hardwood. It creeps him out. There is a wee bit of area rug, to signify Grown Woman, not prepubescent child. He is of a different generation than you weirdos, I suspect.

    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:58 AM (VLXcj)

    I think i'm older than him, and you.

    I remember a time when one needed a brush hog to cut through to that heavenly triangle.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 01:02 AM (z9Eyh)

    660 ...Useless Trivia:

    Apparently Boston, San Francisco and one other fairly large US city can fit within the borders of Detroit.

    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:55 AM (z9Eyh)



    City limits of Houston are larger than the State of New Jersey.

    Kind of freaks 'em out when we tell 'em it's 90 min to drive from IAH Bush Intercontinental Airport, down to the Cruise Terminals at the Port of Galveston.

    /break.


    Berserker. I admire that gent his High Mileage Wing.

    I've done my miles on a succession of GL bikes.

    From GL-1100s to GL-1500s and an GL-1800.

    And J&M speaker upgrades really make the grade.

    Best "audio" upgrade though?

    25 watt linear amplifier on the '89 Wing's CB radio.

    Too fun to stomp all over the 18 wheeler traffic's signal out on the big roads.

    Didn't use it often, but it was handy when needed.



    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2019 01:03 AM (QzJWU)

    661 Why has no one wished Miley a happy birthday?


    Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 16, 2019 12:59 AM (VLXcj)


    Didn't know it was her birthday. Well then, Happy B-day to..... The Duchess.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2019 01:03 AM (9Om/r)

    662 I didn't take it as peeps "siding" with Bezos as much as enjoying NYC get their comeuppance.
    Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 16, 2019 12:51 AM (z9Eyh)

    --Okay, when put that way, makes sense.

    Anyway, fuck 'em both.

    Posted by: logprof at February 16, 2019 01:03 AM (e7oj4)

    663 > The office furniture was barely one step above folding tables

    Bezos himself used a desk made out of a hollow-core door from Home Depot, Lowes, or the like, with folding table legs attached, for many years.


    Between Amazon and all the other dot-coms of the era that were handing out Aeron chairs like they were popcorn, notice which one is still in business.