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Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-24-2017

Sanborn Library, Dartmouth College.jpgSanborn House Library, Dartmouth College

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look even sillier with those boots. (h/t to lurkette 'LaughingOutLoud!')


Pic Note

According to this, Sanborn House is

...home of the English department at Dartmouth College. It contains faculty offices, seminar rooms, and, most important to English majors, a library with Oxford editions of all the major and minor English and American authors, quiet alcoves for reading, a large fireplace for cheerful log fires on cold winter afternoons -- in the 1960s, there were lots of cold winter afternoons in Hanover, N.H. -- and tea for faculty and students every afternoon at 4:00.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A VAUNTPARLER is someone who speaks on another’s behalf.

Usage: Progressives have set themselves up as vauntparlers for all of the world's oppressed and downtrodden -- whether they've been asked to be or not.

What Is To Be Done?

Earlier this week, ace published one of his long think pieces, The National Nervous Breakdown, and How to Exploit it Ruthlessly, and if you haven't read it, you should. And, as brilliant as it is (and it is brilliant), one of the 'ettes (Emmie) noticed one tiny flaw: after all the exposition about the meltdown of the list, ace never discussed how it is to be exploited, as the title of his piece implied he would. So she asked him about it.

This is ace's excuse:

uh, i kinda wrote that title just to be catchy, and planned to think of something to say along those lines, but then I wrote All the Words and wanted to post it and be done with it. I had hoped that no one would notice I'd mentioned "exploiting it" in the headline.

So thanks.

Posted by: ace at September 19, 2017 07:52 PM (8rNrN)

Terrific. In other words, the Great Communicator just forgot. And then he gave the stinkeye to Emmie for bringing it to everyone's attention. Also, for wanting to Control His Body.

But maybe the book thread can help out here.

Kurt Schlichter's latest column looks like it could have been written as a counterponit to ace's article. It is entitled Unleashing the Power of Mockery on Annoying Social Justice Warriors and it's a book review of conservative author Lisa de Pasquale's latest book, The Social Justice Warrior Handbook: A Practical Survival Guide for Snowflakes, Millennials, and Generation Z, which, he says, "does exactly what today’s embattled conservatives need to do - it goes full bull in the progressive china shop." Schlicter describes it as:

...a faux guide to how to be a crying, bitter baby demanding that mommy and daddy submit to his, her or xir's increasingly ridiculous commands. And by writing it, Lisa provides a template for us to do what we all need to do all the time – see through their lies and strip them of their power by ruthlessly mocking these proto-fascist geebos until they flee back to their safe spaces.

It is available on Kindle (pre-order) for $7.99.

But there are other possibilities as well.

In his book SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police, Vox Day observes:

You should be aware that you have a very important strategic advantage vis-a-vis the SJWs with regards to morale. A large percentage of SJWs are prone to various forms of mental illness; being competitive with regards to their victimhood, it is not at all uncommon for them to openly brag about being on various antidepressants and other psychiatric medications. I have been told by observers that the majority of commenters on several SJW sites have publicly made reference to their being prescribed such medications. Because so many of them are miserable and depressed, the strategy of repeatedly hammering SJW morale with dark messages of inevitable failure, doom, and defeat tends to be considerably more effective than it is when aimed at normal, happy, self-confident individuals.

Shorter Vox: SJWs are susceptible to moby and concern-troll attacks because they're mentally ill.

(Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.)

And this made me wonder if this is why the SJWs invented the moby and concern-troll attacks: they're projecting. That is, SJWs like to call their enemies "h8rs" because they're full of h8 themselves, and they think mobying will work on conservatives because they know it will work on them.


Book Reading Program

How many books can you read in a lifetime? Centuries ago, you could read pretty much every book that had ever been written. William F. Buckley once claimed that probably the last guy who could've read every book was Erasmus.

So, instead of reading every book, we have reading programs.

CBD mentioned to me the other day that he was swapping e-mails with Jay Guevara, who recommended The New Lifetime Reading Plan: The Classical Guide to World Literature, Revised and Expanded by Clifton Fadiman:

Now in print for the first time in almost 40 years, The New Lifetime Reading Plan provides readers with brief, informative and entertaining introductions to more than 130 classics of world literature. From Homer to Hawthorne, Plato to Pascal, and Shakespeare to Solzhenitsyn, the great writers of Western civilization can be found in its pages. In addition, this new edition offers a much broader representation of women authors, such as Charlotte Brontë, Emily Dickinson and Edith Wharton, as well as non-Western writers such as Confucius, Sun-Tzu, Chinua Achebe, Mishima Yukio and many others.

Of course, Fadiman's is not the only list out there. There's also The Well-Educated Mind: A Guide to the Classical Education You Never Had by Susan Wise Bauer and The Western Canon: The Books and School of the Ages by Harold Bloom.


True Romance

Science fiction legend Ray Bradbury met his future wife in a bookstore:

If you want to fall in love with a reader, go where the readers go. The late Ray Bradbury met his future wife, Marguerite McClure, at Fowler's Bookstore in Los Angeles when he was 22 years old.

It was not love at first sight. McClure, who was clerking at the store, accused Bradbury of shoplifting.

"He carried a briefcase and wore a trench coat on a clear day, so I was immediately suspicious," she remembered later. "I expected him to slam his briefcase down on a pile of books and make off with a few. Instead, he told me he was a writer and invited me to have a cup of coffee with him."

I thought this was sweet:

McClure was the first woman Bradbury ever dated—and the last. They were married in 1947 and remained married for fifty-six years until McClure's death in 2003.

(h/t Christopher Taylor)

Books By Morons

I forgot to mention this book last week as requested by a lurking moron, so I hope it's not too late to tell you his wife has just published a book, the second adventure of her heroine, Emerson Ayre, Ayre Conditioning. This is a sequel to Into Thin Ayre, which I mentioned about a year ago:

Emerson Ayre was a normal girl with a normal life until a supernatural inheritance leaves her questioning the nature of reality.

Forced into moonlighting in a job that she doesn't want and can't quit, Emerson joins the ranks of an elite group of women with special powers tasked with protecting the future of the planet.

The Amazon blurb for Ayre Conditioning assumes you've read the first book:

Emerson Ayre is still new to the Orber game. With the memory of her botched first assignment still fresh in her mind, the stakes are high. When she gets a vision of two sexy cowboys for her next assignment, she is thrilled. That is, until cop and best friend, Cal, points out that she is no match for a couple of ranchers.

With the help of Cal, techie friend Simon, Imogen and the other ladies in the Orbsphere, Emerson sets out to find her marks, and realizes along the way that Cal just may have been right...

The Kindle editions for both are $2.99.


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On the AoSHQ Goodreads group, moronette C. Chancy has published a sequel to her urban fantasy novel, A Net of Dawn and Bones, which I should probably tell you about first.

But before that, the Amazon blurb has a bit of Ms. Chancy's explanation of why she writes what she does, and now that I've read it, I want to read her books. This is what she says:

This book was written because I couldn’t find anything like it on the shelves.

...No, seriously. After the umpteenth time picking up yet another urban fantasy that looked promising but on closer skimming had the Designated Protagonist choosing the Sexier Evil, I kind of snapped.

Part of the fun of any story is putting yourself in the character’s shoes. But these shoes I not only didn’t want to slip into, I wanted to set them on fire. Where were the good guys? The honest cops? The ordinary people choosing to do the Right Thing, no matter how hard it was? Where was the belief that there is a Right Thing; that there is Good, and Evil, and you pick the side you’re going to fight for, even if the heavens fall?

In short - where were the heroes?


I assure you, if I were in on ground zero of a vampire versus werewolf blood war, my thoughts would not be centered on, omigod the two main supernatural guys are so darkly yummy in their hellspawn black leather. They would be, stake, silver - where are they and how fast can I reload?

So here they are: an honest cop, a half-demon, and an ancient heretic who just might be a saint. Out to kick butt, save lives, and hopefully save souls.

Here is the actual blurb for her first novel:

Blood rituals, black magic, and broken masquerades. Names to run away from really fast. And maybe the end of the world....

Welcome to Intrepid, North Carolina. Where autumn brings leaf season, tourists, and bloody sacrifice.

Twenty years have passed since the Dark Day brought creatures of horror onto the evening news. Now vampires run nightclubs, alchemists deal potions on the street corners, and werewolf gangs lay claim to shady alleys. The honest cops of Intrepid enforce human laws on supernatural evil, and pray. Because the turn of the leaves brings Halloween, tourists... and the return of a serial killer who’s plagued Intrepid for over two decades.

Yet the night holds darker secrets than even the best detectives have unearthed. Somewhere in Intrepid, a demonic sorcerer plans to bring Hell on earth. And the Demongate is almost complete.

Heh. Turns out I mentioned all of this on the book thread a little over a year ago. Same quotes and everything. Yeah, it's a repeat. Sue me. Anyway, Ms. Chancy has just published the sequel, Seeds of Blood:

Over two decades of bloody murder, Steven Savonarola carved a sorcerous Demongate into the heart of his own hometown. With less than two weeks to disarm it before Halloween, Detective Church and the IPD are running out of time.

Lucky for them, they have an edge: Myrrh, a hell-raider with over a thousand years’ experience shattering dark magic, and Aidan, a half-demon fire mage with a very personal grudge against evil.

The plan is simple: Find the tainted sites. Purify them. Try not to die.

They’ll need all the help they can get. Steven may be gone, but shadows in the mountains are determined to see the Demongate open - even if they have to slaughter half the city to do it. And when it comes to killing shadows, even hell-raiders don’t know everything.

If they’re going to make it to All Saint’s Day, they’re going to need hot lead, cold mead, and a weapon that’s out of this world.

And a little praying wouldn’t hurt...

Ms. Chancy has also written another comic fantasy, Count Taka and the Vampire Brides. They're all available on Kindle for $2.99 each.


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:15 AM




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1 Welcome to the AoSHq Book Thread, A fusion of Enlightenment and Entertainment

( Muldoon put me up to this and I'm not doing it again)

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (ghofu)

2 First?

Too bad I don't have much to say this week.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (26lkV)

3 Not first. Phooey.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (26lkV)

4 th, hah!

Finished O'Brian's "The Truelove" in the Aubrey Maturin series. Still enthralled by the world that he describes and his ability to write.Only six more books to finish the series.

Read "The Hidden Life of Dogs" by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas and found it both fascinating and somewhat sad as she traces the lives of her dog companions for decades from early puppyhood to the eventual end. I have added her "The Social Lives of Dogs" to my substantial queue of books to read.

Read "Out of the Soylent Planet" by Robert Kroese and found it hilarious.

Reading "Blackbeard's Lost Treasure" by Caleb Wygal, which is of much interest to me since some of my ancestors lived in that area of North Carolina back in the day.

Still reading "The Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius and it has become clear to me why this book will never be used in any public academic setting. Marcus presents the underpinnings of #WhitePrivilege by recommending that you strive to act in such a manner that you live properly now, so that you can live at peace with yourself in the future.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 09:16 AM (gwPgz)

5 Finished up Clancy's Bear and Dragon book. Have moved on to the Golden Compass Trilogy. I liked the movie which was based on the first book and was waiting on a sequel which it appears we will not get one. (Not enough giant mechanical robot looking crap). So I got the trilogy in a package deal. It was wasn't a really good deal though but it reduced the price to less than $10/book which falls within my criteria. And wifey liked the movie too because it had Sam Elliot in it.


I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.


My most recent down load was a historical text called The Real Lincoln. I have read a lot of books, articles, and other stuff in my decades of studying the life and times in that era and the events leading up to it so have seen a lot of pro and con concerning Lincoln. This is a new look and should be interesting and besides it was, and still is, on sale for $1.99. I'll move on when I get done with the trilogy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

6 Top five?

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (R5lpX)

7 Tolle lege
Finished book 17 of Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II. It starts the beginning of the 7 year war covering the battle of Lobositz and the blockade of Saxony until their capitulation. He as most all historians agree on, wrongly incorporated the Saxon Army into his. They melted away as fast as they could deserting at every chance.
Book 18 is the longest of this series so far but should go fast as probably the most interesting.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (ghofu)

8 missed by that much. {-}

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (R5lpX)

9 "Even if it's these pants"

It's a blind purple peter eater!

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (UdKB7)

10 Stopped by a library sale last Wednesday- they were having a special. 5 dollars for a paper grocery bag of books. I filled that thing to the top; it worked out to something like 15 cents a book. Got some Shakespeare, a bio of Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire, and a few other interesting-looking ones.

Gotta love it when people are getting rid of books. More for me!

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (26lkV)

11 Vic- I'm impressed that you managed to actually read The Golden Compass series. I got about a third of the way through the first book and quit. Just couldn't get into it, even though I was a fantasy-loving teenager at the time. (still love fantasy, just not a teenager anymore)

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

12 On the writing front, the keyboard on my writing computer conked out, so I either have to switch over to my new one (the one I'm using now), or get a detached/ independent/ USB/ whatever it's called keyboard. Or figure out how to take MS Office off of the old computer and put it on the new one- without the original software CDs.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)

13 Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read Hue 1968: The Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam. This is a well-researched, well-written book on probably the most important battle of the war. A fascinating read.

I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much. It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each with its twists and turns.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (go62B)

14 So much for not having much to say. Where the heck is everyone?

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)

15 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone has had pleasurable reading this week. And I look forward to the 'tell-all' books to come from the GNAMM (I think that's right). Probably spice, humor and fantasy in equal measure.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:26 AM (V+03K)

16 On the AoSHQ Goodreads group, moronette C. Chancy has published a sequel to her urban fantasy novel, A Net of Dawn and Bones, which I should probably tell you about first.


Just downloaded that first book. But it took me a while to find out what the price was because amazon wanted to make sure you knew you could read it for free if you would only buy Kindle Unlimited.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

17 I just watched Fahrenheit 451 again last night after a long time. There is a speech in it that is straight up anti-SJW. The whole premise is that books need to be burned because they make people sad, and set up some ideas as superior to others.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (2lndx)

18 You all know your chances of reading this website at the establishment above wouldn't be good or wise.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (ghofu)

19 My reading the last couple of weeks has been dictated by politics, sports, and world events: I'm avoiding them to the extent possible. Instead, I'm reading things that soothe the soul, at least my soul.

- Shooting and maintaining traditional muzzleloaders: "The Muzzleloading Cap-Lock Rifle" by Ned Roberts. It's history, a little biography, practical information, and enjoyment. (There was a bit of politics in the introduction. Roberts was born the year after the Civil War and lived into his eighties. He despised FDR and his policies.) In the same pleasurable vein, "Flintlocks - A Practical Guide" by Eric Bye.

- Upland bird hunting and fly fishing stories by William G. Tapply. He is best known for his Brady Coyne mystery series but his outdoor writing is superb. Also, I started the latest fly fishing book by John Gierach, another series of pleasant and restful anecdotes.

- Rereading "Painting As A Pastime" by Winston Churchill. Not a how-to book but a why-you-should book. It is more philosophy, and very pertinent, than anything else. Brilliant writing on a valuable topic.

- Books on growing heirloom vegetables and seed saving. This isn't prepper stuff; I just think the subject is interesting.

There's more, but you all get the idea.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (V+03K)

20 I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War."

Go ahead and guess the topic.

Thomas is one of those old school historians who does hundreds of interviews, checks original documents, etc. This thing is reasonably well-written but factually dense. I don't think I'll need to read another book on the topic.

One thing I've learned is that this is a rare case where history wasn't written by the victors. Everywhere you see Franco denounced as a fascist who worked with Hitler and Mussolini and the Republic is constantly referred to as the "lawful, democratically-elected government."

In fact, Franco was largely apolitical along with most of the army. The Popular Front which won the 1936 elections was a classic case of "no enemy to the left" so it included not just socialists, but Stalinists, anarchists, Trotsky-ites and independent Marxists.

The coup was largely provoked by the rampant civil disorder these militias caused fighting one another and assassinating conservative opponents. Oh, and killing priests, nuns and burning churches. They really enjoyed that.

Franco had some unsavory folks on his team, but at least his army wasn't run by Stalin's goons and policed by the NKVD.

A good read and very informative.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

21 I'm told 'What Happened' is excellent! *hic!*

Posted by: HRC at September 24, 2017 09:31 AM (bc2Lc)

22 11
Vic- I'm impressed that you managed to actually read The Golden Compass
series. I got about a third of the way through the first book and quit.
Just couldn't get into it, even though I was a fantasy-loving teenager
at the time. (still love fantasy, just not a teenager anymore)


Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)

23 What's "mobying" mean, pls?

(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to "mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:33 AM (v6Osy)

24 13
Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read Hue 1968: The Turning Point of
the American War in Vietnam. This is a well-researched, well-written
book on probably the most important battle of the war. A fascinating
read.

I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's
Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a
multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much.
It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of
Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of
city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each
with its twists and turns.


Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (go62B)

It wasn't really a turning point. It was a major loss for the North and their surrogates the Cong. It was made to look lie a loss to the US and a disaster because Democrat liberal in the MFM lied constantly about it and the whole shebang.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:35 AM (mpXpK)

25
I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War."

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

Added to my to-read list, because I don't know nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the conflict.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)

26 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Man, my reading has been slow lately. I blame long work days and online poker. Need to re-establish my priorities.

I am still working on Meditations, but haven't been that into it. I've also been reading the Law Dog Files before bed, and that's been entertaining. *Sighs...humans.

Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 09:37 AM (e8PP1)

27 23
What's "mobying" mean, pls?



(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to
"mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to
reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:33 AM (v6Osy)

A Moby is a liberal troll who logs onto a conservative site and poses as a conservative and posts real hardcore crap like hate speech to give real conservatives a bad name.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

28 moby =>" An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question."

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 09:38 AM (QC/4S)

29 Zoltan, I did read the Hangman's Daughter a couple of weeks ago. Must have been you who recommended it originally? It was a good read, and I'll likely pick up the others.

Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 09:38 AM (e8PP1)

30 The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media
people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)

Wow, a Hollywood film that actually backed away from criticizing religion? When was the last time that happened?
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (26lkV)

31 >>>In addition, this new edition offers a much broader representation of women authors, such as Charlotte Brontë, Emily Dickinson and Edith Wharton, as well as non-Western writers such as Confucius, Sun-Tzu, Chinua Achebe, Mishima Yukio and many others.


I only see one black man on that list. I better be one of the "many others".

Posted by: Ta Nehisi-Coates at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (/qEW2)

32 OMG, I love the library - with all those cozy little book-lined nooks, with comfortable chairs and reading lights! Why couldn't my college have had a library like that! I'd have never left. (Well,mostly because my college was a state uni established sometime at mid-20th century with ghastly modern architecture...)
Working on stuff this week, little time for reading. Did venture into a copy of Larousse' "Gastronomique" for reasons of research for the latest Luna City romp. It's basically an extensive encyclopedia of classic French cooking, and about the size of a big city yellow page phone book. Everything about French cooking that you didn't know and were afraid to ask.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (xnmPy)

33 24

I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (go62B)

34 Nice library. I wonder if Hillary & Bill ever made out there.
*gag*

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (hMwEB)

35 Good morning, book worm morons!

I decided to make Sundays "Faith Fiction" day at my blog.
Today is a science fiction novel that features Catholic nuns , in space!
Check it out later when the book thread winds down.

link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (hMwEB)

36
1 Welcome to the AoSHq Book Thread, A fusion of Enlightenment and Entertainment

( Muldoon put me up to this and I'm not doing it again)


Alternatively - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a Frisson of Enlightenment and Entertainment.

Better still, and upholding the stereotype of morons - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a compendium of reviews and observations on books and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (eFRS+)

37 30 Wow, a Hollywood film that actually backed away from criticizing religion? When was the last time that happened?
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today


Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (26lkV)

Well they didn't go that far. The movie was still very critical of the church, but not nearly so much as the book. And remember, these are supposed to be "children's books".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (mpXpK)

38 . Got some Shakespeare, a bio of Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire, and a few other interesting-looking ones. - rwy
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I thoroughly enjoyed the bio of Georgiana. Highly recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her toddler.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (MIKMs)

39 20 AHL

Good post.

One comment re: "a rare instance where history wasn't written by the victors"

To find the last time when "history was written (only) by the victors," I contend you'd have to go back to some war where one of the belligerents was a pre-literate society-- the American Indian wars, for example.

More often, it's hard to get the defeated to shut the F up! The Spanish Civil War is an EXCELLENT example of that.

You could stock a whole library with the self-delusions of the vanquished.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:43 AM (v6Osy)

40 33
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I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.



Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (go62B)

I will not watch anything that he is associated with.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

41 29

April, I can't take the credit. It was originally recommended here a few months ago. I'm glad the author developed it into a series. I'm enjoying them very much.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:44 AM (go62B)

42 Besides that, I doubt if I could get it if I wanted to. No longer have cable or satellite.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:47 AM (mpXpK)

43 Spent many hours in Sanborn library, since I was an English major. They used to serve tea. Very civilized.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of Akbar at September 24, 2017 09:47 AM (Id9+8)

44 re: moby

Thx, Vic & runner

I would have described that as 'false flag' posts, but I like moby much better.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:48 AM (v6Osy)

45 <ditches Akbar sock>

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of Akbar at September 24, 2017 09:48 AM (Id9+8)

46 <second attempt>

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (Id9+8)

47 I finished "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. Beyond its philosophical benefits, which are legion, it has led me to later writings that echo his ideas and methods. That includes poetry, essays, novels, history (especially where the importance of the individual is stressed), and religion. I haven't really started on the other classic Stoic writers yet, but I have the books and will read them over the winter, especially "Letters From a Stoic" and the writings of Epictitus. I'm so glad the Goodreads group chose "Meditations", it has opened a huge number of doors to go through, each with its own value.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (V+03K)

48 Clifton Fadiman?

Now there is a name I haven't heard (or read) since Jr. High in the late 60's. We would go to the cafeteria and be bored-to-death as he lectured us on story structure.

Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (UnDQI)

49 I thoroughly enjoyed the bio of Georgiana. Highly
recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits
also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her
toddler.


Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (MIKMs)

Aww, that's cute. I haven't gotten very far into the book; she's married, but no children yet.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (26lkV)

50 I recently finished Giles Milton's Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare: The Mavericks Who Plotted Hitler's Defeat. It was a quick and enjoyable read. Thanks to the horde for the recommendations regarding this book.

I also finished Len Deighton's Bomber (1970), a gripping fictionalized account of a single night's RAF bombing raid in June 1943. Deighton read over 200 books in researching the story, which is told through the eyes of a huge cast of characters on both sides. Deighton at the peak of his literary form and really deserves to be considered a serious writer and not just a genre author. I highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the subject.

Posted by: cool breeze at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (TKf/P)

51 Read Elizabeth Kostova "The Shadow land" .
I received this book free as Goodreads giveaway book.

When
I received this book I have not read another book by this author. So I
decided to read The Historian and The Shadow Land back to back.

There
is a similar style to these books. They are set in a similar country.
Yet these were different genres, which I did not expect. The Historian
is mystical novel and The Shadow Land is more historical/political
thriller.

Both books are good (4 stars for both books) but I liked The Shadow Land more.

I
liked it more probably because I prefer political thrillers to vampire
books and, as immigrant from the former USSR, political part/communist
Gulag camp part of book spoke to me more.

It started a little slow but I could not put the book down for the last 150 pages.

I would highly recommend this book.

Posted by: redmonkey at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (ntMM4)

52 Good Morning Book Horde! I just finished reading "The Last Voyage of the USS Pueblo" by Ed Brandt, about the capture of the Pueblo & imprisonment of her crew by the NORKs. The NORKS are nuts - paranoid, delusional, cruel & childlike. They're what happens if SJWs run a country.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (ANIFC)

53 That library looks suspiciously like many other library pictures. Wood, books, tables, chandeliers. Except for that one from THE Ohio State University.

Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (m9X4Y)

54 I finished Andrew Klavan's "The Great Good Thing" A Secular Jew comes to faith in Christ.

Just excellent. Holy crap. His dad was a piece of "work."

Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 09:51 AM (UnDQI)

55 Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.


Soon they'll be kneeling for nearly empty stadiums.


Well done guys, well done. You too Goodell...way to run a league into the ground.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (Enq6K)

56 I'm still plugging away on "The Long Fuse" -- a history explaining in detail how British govt policies & actions brought on the Revolutionary War.

Among other things, this book has increased my admiration for Ben Franklin, and it was already very high.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:53 AM (v6Osy)

57
I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.

Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there? He isn't fit to tie Lewis' shoes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 09:53 AM (iVOAv)

58 Thanks, OregonMuse, for addressing the big question. I'm naturally a bit of a worry wart and have stewed about the left breaking down trust and appreciation between different segments of society and about the Rule of Law being replaced with the Rule of Whatever Advances the Left's Agenda, not to mention the mass delusion and hysteria by people who really shouldn't be mentally ill.

If there's a problem, obsessing about it doesn't help. I'd rather take constructive action.

I'm just really at a loss. Is there really anything we can do to keep representatives we send to D.C. from turning into swamp creatures who decide not to represent us after all?

I'm a community college instructor. I'm very aware that anything I say that contains common sense will be perceived as icky and inappropriate politicizing while lefty colleagues can say the most outrageous lefty things and they're "cool."

So I pray and vote and try to pay attention so I don't vote stupidly. But it seems to make so little difference.

Mockery may be a useful tool, but I'm not terribly skilled at it. I think of the good comebacks two weeks later.

About the only thing I'm good at in this arena is maintaining an independent mind.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 09:54 AM (ZapPq)

59 Morning, Literary Hordlings.

Back from a week's leave, where i got a lot of writing done (my grandfather's life and heroic escapades). Def have my enthusiasm for the project back up, and making solid progress. Also learning a lot (not surprising). How many of you knew that when Pancho Villa raided Columbus, NMex. (prompting the Punitive Incursion, which involved my g/f), he got his ass kicked, royally, by the 13th Cavalry?

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 09:55 AM (YFnq5)

60 OM, Thanks for the book thread, of course, and for that photo of the Dartmouth library. Just as well I didn't go to Dartmouth. I would still be in that library, reading, enjoying the fire place and sipping tea. Perhaps have a smoking lounge to puff on a pipe of good tobacco while enjoying the above features.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (V+03K)

61
Oh, for any horde members who use tablets. My best investment ($10) was a bluetooth keyboard. Kidlet #4 got a gift tablet, but it was unusable for anything but reading until we figured out that an external keyboard made it into a computer. Rather than trying to fat-finger comments or instructions, it is easy to use a familiar keyboard.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (MIKMs)

62
Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there?


Yes, there's so much to be written about NON-belief. (!)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (oVJmc)

63 All righty, fellow Book Threadists; I'm going to exercise a horse before
she's starts thinking I've forgotten about her. Catch y'all later.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (26lkV)

64 7 Skip

I'm impressed you're reading that. God Bless-- I know I couldn't do it.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:57 AM (v6Osy)

65 Added to my to-read list, because I don't know
nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that
war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for
either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the
conflict.


Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)

Hugh Thomas is a good writer, but he clearly sympathizes with the Republic. Still, he's honest and when he describes "life behind the lines" as the war settles in, he admits that things were a lot more normal with the rebels than with the Republic. He also notes that there was a steady stream of emigration from the Republican zone to the Nationalist one.
Part of the reason is that he points out that Franco didn't really have an ideology. In fact, once the coup failed and the drive to Madrid stalled, Franco had to come up with what exactly his movement stood for. Hitler sent some Nazi missionaries and Franco tolerated them only so that he could get munitions and aircraft (like the Condor Legion).
Same with Mussolini. Franco didn't like or trust either of them, but needed their help. So he kept them at arm's length as best he could and then cobbled together a sort of nationalist-catholic movement.
The Republic was a madhouse by comparison. Whole regions became anarchists self-governing communes (yes, like Monty Python). There were constant squabbles, intrigues and murders squads running around. And then the Russians showed up.
I could go on, but it's amazing just how screwed up the Republic really was and how for all their romantic notions of revolution, they mostly created famine (shocking!) and secret prisons and lots of purges. One of the darkly ironic twists (which Thomas repeatedly points out) is how Stalin's advisors go over there, try to win and when things go bad do their best to escape back to friendly lines, only to get a bullet when they get back to Russia.
Anyone who mourns the Republic needs to explain how a Stalinist Spain was going to be an improvement.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:58 AM (cfSRQ)

66 Still reading Stephenson's The Diamond Age.

Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.

Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)

67 66 Still reading Stephenson's The Diamond Age.

Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)

So you're saying it went south?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 10:00 AM (NWiLs)

68 What C. Chancy wrote sounds interesting. It was very rare even before Twilight gabble to have actual heroes versus monsters.

Not sure if the manga Silent Mobius would appeal to Ms. Chancy or not. Young Katsumi Liqueur returns from Hawaii to visit her sick mother in Tokyo, a Tokyo more akin to Blade Runner since the mysterious events of 1999. In Japan she finds out about her heritage, that she is the daughter of one of the greatest sorcerers and that demons, Lucifer Hawks, want to use her to open a gate to their world of Nemesis.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:01 AM (Ktewm)

69 65 AHL

As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to shoot their enemies, & let their own soldiers die.

Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (v6Osy)

70 I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.

Did he kill off those polar bears that were in the movie? That would be plagiarism.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (/qEW2)

71 55; the nfl can't go away fast enough fot me. i'm done with those assholes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (KP5rU)

72 The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)

Pullman was (is) an atheist who wanted to be the anti-CS Lewis. Not sure if he succeeded.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:03 AM (gG2l4)

73 (Dating myself), the NFL started to go downhill when it dropped 'Confidence' as its theme song.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:04 AM (YFnq5)

74 Better still, and upholding the stereotype of morons - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a compendium of reviews and observations on books and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (eFRS+)


I really like this. I may have to steal it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:04 AM (gG2l4)

75
Finished The World Island - Eurasian Geopolitics and the Fate of the West by Alexandros Petersen. As opposed to Alfred T. Mahan's assertion that seapower and control of strategic sea lanes were key control measures, Sir Galford Mackinder proposed the World Island was key (basically much of greater Russia and its former Soviet Republics) to control. His Heartland Theory, introduced in the early 1900s is reviewed, along with the derivative theories of containment (George Kennan) and Prometheism - Intermarum (Josef Pilsudski). After laying out these ideas, their roles in today's geopolitical sphere is discussed, along with an assessment of how nation states in the World Island may be constructively engaged by the Western World, which lies outside the World Island.

This is a relatively unengaging work to read and, despite its 2011 publication date, it is somewhat outdated with events in Ukraine and Afghanistan having moved on considerably from what the author wrote. It is interesting to note though (and the author does not), that the countries in Europe who are resisting the onslaught of Moslem refugees are those of Eastern Europe in the Intermarum region (Poland and Hungary, to name just two). If history of geopolitical ideas floats your boat, this book is one answer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:05 AM (eFRS+)

76 Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM

~~~~~

Idiots. And especially funny: standing for the Brits who colonized Africa. WTG History majors!

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 10:05 AM (HiDrR)

77 My 1st post this week and last was due to a comment by Muldoon in that he was glad he didn't see Glen Beck's radio opening here.
Well he got it, though he may not know it.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:06 AM (ghofu)

78 Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.

This. And I hate to see it happen to people I love.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (ZapPq)

79 67 66 Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)

So you're saying it went south?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 10:00 AM (NWiLs)

Ha! More like it went nowhere!

Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (yODqO)

80 Well done guys, well done. You too Goodell...way to run a league into the ground.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (Enq6K)


I don't think that pudgy pile of shit has worked outside of the league which shows the idiocy of hiring someone for the job with no outside perspective for a fucking sports organization. I'm sure owners like Kraft hate him and can only think of lib shitheads like Rooney that like him, although it must be full of scum and villainy for the way they treated Rush when he unwisely wanted to squander his jack on part ownership of the Iggles.

As far as reading, I made some headway in The Luminaries which is becoming an increasingly convoluted puzzle around just WTF happened regarding a hermit and some other secretive person getting killed or disappearing in gold rush mid 19th century New Zealand. Other than that not much since my time was overly spent helping Mrs Hate get ready for a garage sale which is mercifully over.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (y7DUB)

81 Personally, I won't pay more than five bucks for an eBook.

Speaking of eBook pricing, Torchship - Torchship Pilot - Torchship Captain (recommended by Sarah Hoyt over at Instapundit) was good enough to keep me entertained for three days while I binged on escape from reality.

The heroine is an interesting character in the first book. Turns a little dark and gritty as the series progresses. (Too much sex in it for my taste. I don't like sex in my science fiction, and I don't like science fiction lumped in with fantasy. Science should be science, not magic.)

The ending of the set left me unsatisfied. They were three dollar books selling for five bucks, and very popular on Amazon. The setting is a mix of early twentieth century steam punk (the analog ships of the disconnected), and mid twenty first century, totally connected digital networked society. The digital society breaks down into factions, and evil Artificial Intelligence lurks at the fringes. Interesting enough if you are trying to escape from reality.

I gave them three 'mehs'.

As far as MSWord goes, use the older versions if you can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet connection.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (m9X4Y)

82 This isn't about reading but writing. We get MeTV on the OTA rabbit ears and have watched a bunch of Have Gun Will Travel episodes. I sort of remembered it from the late 1950s and early 60s, always in black and white. It isn't just a shoot-em-up. I am astonished by the quality of the writing. In a half hour show there are plot twists, story and character development, quotes and references to the Bible, classic philosophy, literature, and history. And it was assumed the audience would get and appreciate the references. It puts modern TV show writing in the 'see Spot run' level but without the creativity. Amazing.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:09 AM (V+03K)

83 LOL - think someone should educate those 'woke' NFLers about the role the UK played in: the Caribbean Sugar Industry; the Slave Triangle; the Georgia, Carolina, etc. Crown Colonies.....?

God Save the Queen indeed.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:09 AM (YFnq5)

84 There is a Prager U video on the effects of British colonization and how it favorably the best thing that could have happened. Many countries from India to Africa still use British government and court systems long after they no longer have any control over their country.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (ghofu)

85 OT, but a baseball player took a knee last night.

Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is, as if dissing the national anthem isn't divisive. Now I'm all pissed off and I haven't even had coffee yet.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)

86 Hmmmm.

I believe I'm being oppressed as a Sansculotte

forced to wear pants.



Posted by: naturalfake at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (9q7Dl)

87 Recommendations, anyone? My grandson will be 11 in November. He watches every WWII documentary he can find, as well as WWI and VietNam. He looks up to his uncle and grandfather, new and old Marines. We think the kid is going to follow that path.

Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.

Thanks!

Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)

88 Here is a question for the more well rounded and erudite of the Literary Horde, which Thorne Smith novel should I start with? Perhaps The Night Life of the Gods? Or read Topper?

I know best not to read The Passionate Witch since it was completed by another author after Smith's death. Even though the delightful comedy I Married A Witch* with Veronica Lake and Frederick March is based off it.

*Trivia just discovered. The cute as a buttons blonde girl at the end of the movie who played Veronica Lake's daughter, Ann Carter, would two years later star as Amy Reed in Curse of the Cat People.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:12 AM (Ktewm)

89 Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


What a silly man. You don't put out "alternatives" that only non-believers will read. You try to find some way to co-opt the original and then alter its message. Like adding a new 8th Narnia book in which Aslan is revealed to be merely an advanced alien life form ... hmmm. Wonder who holds the copyright... Everyone has his price.

Posted by: Marvel Comics at September 24, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)

90 That library looks suspiciously like many other library pictures. Wood, books, tables, chandeliers. Except for that one from THE Ohio State University.



Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (m9X4Y)

Sanford Library is the one exclusively for the English department. The main library is known for its Orozco frescoes (disturbing and frankly not the kind of art I enjoy). Don't recall if there were any portraits or not. I do recall the bust of Craven Laycock, though - who could forget a name like that?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (Id9+8)

91 Aaaack! Harold Bloom. Picked up one of his analysis books and was underwhelmed. I think I had him confuzzled with Allan Bloom of 'Closing of the American Mind' infamy. Allan Bloom also had reading lists at the back of his book: very much the Western Civilization canon. I think because he was from U of Chicago, his attitude was formed by Britannica (also out of Chicago) and Great Books (ditto). Harvard Classics was more pop lit (of the time) rather than historical.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (MIKMs)

92 Reading report: Had to put down the excellent The Everlasting Man (recommended by the Horde -- thanks!) because this semester is kicking my keister.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (ZapPq)

93 70 Did he kill off those polar bears that were in the movie? That would be plagiarism.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (/qEW2)

No but he had one of them complaining because the water was heating up and destroying their ice habitat forcing them to move to the mountains. That was one of the "subtle hints" I was talking about.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:14 AM (mpXpK)

94 April - if you can find them, Robb White is an excellent writer for that age and subject. great series of books. I even found some editions for my own son, and he loved them.

A Boy Ten Feet Tall by Canaway.
Peter Benchley's Girl of the Sea of Cortez.
The Shepherd by Frederick Forsyth.
They are a little mature.. but the original Conan series


Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (YFnq5)

95 Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.

Thanks!

Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)


Rush wrote some children's book on the Revolutionary war.


Here's an Amazon link to them:
http://tinyurl.com/ycbv2hkz

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (Enq6K)

96 BF and I met at the library. He initiated encounter.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (eO2Z0)

97 Right Wing Yankee. Or you skip Office and just use OpenOffice that will read Microsoft formats.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (Ktewm)

98 Spanish Cicil war, Guernica, Picasso.

My knowledge of what went on there is somewhat superficial, but I would not say that Franco did not have an ideology.

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:16 AM (QC/4S)

99 Skip, I enjoyed your "first" and I don't even listen to Beck on purpose.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:16 AM (ZapPq)

100 Oh, thank you Miley. You reminded me of something I forgot to add in my comment.

The great old classic authors of literature are out of copyright, in most cases, and you can get their complete works in compendiums for 99 cents on amazon.

More stuff than I can read, even with nothing else to do.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (m9X4Y)

101 81 As far as MSWord goes, use the older versions if you
can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the
software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet
connection.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (m9X4Y)

MSWORD older versions will not work with WIN 10, go to open office. Or use Windows 7 or 8 if you can find a computer that comes loaded with that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)

102 Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is, as if dissing the national anthem isn't divisive. Now I'm all pissed off and I haven't even had coffee yet.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)


She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts. She seems very emotionally unstable; IOW a child's garden of the personification of negative stereotypes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (y7DUB)

103 For those interested in the Spanish Civil War, I recommend Stephen Hunter's "A Tapestry of Spies". Fiction, but well researched. And a damned good story. If you're a Bob Lee and Earl fan, you will notice echoes of this book in some of the characters in their later stories.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (IJX6l)

104 Robb White is an excellent writer
====

I read 'Secret Sea' about 400 times in fourth grade. I had to buy another one because the first copy fell apart.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (2wRtc)

105
Also finished The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy (Penguin refers to Penguin Books, BTW).

I am a cartophile and I love looking at maps. This book has maps showing the ebb and flow of people, trade and ideas from 50,000 BC to 362 AD. Neanderthals, Gepids, Alans, Cimmerians, Sarmatians and many more are all here. The progression from Paleolithic, Neolithic, Chalcolithic, Bronze and Iron technologies is shown for Europe, the Middle East, North Africa and Western Asia. As a thumbnail history for the sweep of empires and invaders across millennia, this book is hard to beat.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:18 AM (eFRS+)

106 Those classical literature guides sound very interesting.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:18 AM (ZapPq)

107 85 stace

That happens a lot these days, doesn't it?

RE: kneeling leftwing athletes:

Some have posted that this may benefit the NHL. However, most folks don't realize that there are black players on every NHL team, I suspect. They aren't AAs, though, they are Afro-Canadians. So... maybe they'll spare us the kneeling.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:19 AM (v6Osy)

108 Sarah Hoyt has a nice article on Our Betters-

and how their ideas have more or less stayed the same since from Nietzsche and eugenics(just new labels)-

and how they fail the basic requirements of leaders by their own definitions.

Read it all.

But, yes, mockery and denial of power is the best response.


Posted by: H. D. Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:20 AM (9q7Dl)

109 For April @87 -
Constance Savery - "Enemy Brothers", Marie McSwigan "Snow Treasure". Antoni Gronowicz "Four From the Old Town" - just for starters. All set in WWII, various theaters. I'll add any more I can think of, after walking the doggles.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 24, 2017 10:20 AM (xnmPy)

110 NBA requires players to stand for the national anthems. No reason the other leagues can't do that.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:21 AM (sNESL)

111 87 ... If the boy can handle documentaries about WW II, he might like reading "Company Commander" by Charles MacDonald about the Battle of the Bulge. It is factual and not sugar coated but isn't lurid either. It was meant for average readers so he should be able to get through it without a lot of difficulty, although a dictionary nearby might help.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (V+03K)

112 @85

What Trump is doing is what fighting back looks like.

These disgraces have never had any pushback before so they ratchet it up to 11.

Fuck this ungrateful pieces of shit.

The NFL can die, the NBA can die and it seems as if the contagion is spreading to baseball, they can die as well.

It will be no skin of my nose because my team sucks and it looks like they aren't going to be good anytime soon.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (9A6UB)

113 In rebuke to Trump, Ravens and Jaguars take a knee in London during US national anthem

FUCK them and it is all racial.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (/yyMv)

114 NBA requires players to stand for the national anthems. No reason the other leagues can't do that.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:21 AM (sNESL)

That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (/yyMv)

115
I should have added that I obtained the Atlas of Ancient History at a used book sale a few years ago as the book itself was first published in 1967.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (eFRS+)

116 So, Emmie raped Ace. What was that like?

Posted by: Corona at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (zIb93)

117 87
Recommendations, anyone? My grandson will be 11 in November. He
watches every WWII documentary he can find, as well as WWI and VietNam.
He looks up to his uncle and grandfather, new and old Marines. We think
the kid is going to follow that path.



Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much
any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him,
but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.




Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)


I highly recommend the Marine series by W.E.B. Griffin. It mostly ends in the Korean war but it is an outstanding military novel series.


This is the first book in the Marine series. He also has a series for the Army and Spies, but i didn't really care for the spy one.


http://tinyurl.com/y8bwua2z

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (mpXpK)

118 "The NFL can die, the NBA can die and it seems as if the contagion is spreading to baseball, they can die as well."

The NBA requires players to stand. The other leagues should copy that policy.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (sNESL)

119 NBA in the 1990s had to deal with Chris Jackson who went Islamic and changed his name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Abdul-Rauf

So as I've said before, Colin Kaperdiyck isn't even original.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (Ktewm)

120 Also finished The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy (Penguin refers to Penguin Books, BTW).

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Thanks. Something I would really be interested in reading. Trying to find maps on the internet is sometimes (okay, most of the time) very frustrating. I'm much more comfortable with the old atlas that doesn't fit in any of my bookshelves.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (MIKMs)

121 I wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.

I agree with him, but... damn.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (v6Osy)

122 http://tinyurl.com/y7lggyzw

more : Secret Sea by Robb White

Required reading for boys. Heart-pounding treasure hunting adventure with tons of nautical lore.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (2wRtc)

123 April - more:

I think I started reading Alistair MacLean at around that age. Terrific war and spy and just general adventure stories. Can't beat his stuff.

Hornblower/Forester > Aubrey/O'Brian. Just saying. Let the slings and arrows begin.

Bernard Cornwell.

Bios - Douglas Bader, Baden-Powell, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Beryl Markham.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (YFnq5)

124 On any kids enjoyment of Military History, I was hooked very early on certainly by age 11. Almost anything written can be followed and believe me if maybe you don't get a tactic or the entire mechanics of what you are reading it will come to you down the road as you read more. The only trick is finding a writer that captures you and keeps it interesting.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (ghofu)

125 @82. Just the main character's name, Paladin, assumed a knowledge of history and literature by the viewer.

Posted by: Cosda at September 24, 2017 10:25 AM (eX+TO)

126 I wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.

I agree with him, but... damn.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (v6Osy)

Why? How much longer we WE suppose to play by one set of rules and the left by another. They want a street fight, fine, I say let's give em one. I am glad fro once a President is finally standing UP for America. And it's PDT who is picking a fight? They wanted to impeach him from day 1.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (/yyMv)

127 wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.


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why are they unnecessary ?

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (QC/4S)

128 Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good. Thanks!

Posted by: April

americanliterature.com/author/stephen-crane/
book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary

Posted by: Henry Fleming at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (CRLBR)

129 It's ESPECIALLY tacky to dis your country on foreign soil. The Brits loathe Americans generally, so they must be having hands-free orgasms right now.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (v6Osy)

130 Off stupid sock! Joey just reads Thomas the Tank Engine books.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (IJX6l)

131 69
65 AHL



As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally
couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to
shoot their enemies, let their own soldiers die.



Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (v6Osy)

Yeah, the Spanish really didn't like each other. Tons of score-settling, desecrating graves, all manner of vicious stuff.
Just to clarify, Franco eventually developed an ideology because he has to. Thomas maps out that in the book that as the war dragged on, he had to come up with something to inspire his side other than: "We're not them."
As a side note, I knew a bit about the Spanish Civil War before reading the book and I worked that in to my Man of Destiny series. Now going through Thomas' book, I'm surprised at how much I got right in terms of infighting, escalation and mission creep in a civil war.
Hell, even some of my characters have similar names (Praeto vs Prieto). Weird.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)

132 @121

So ungrateful, largely illiterate, ignorant millionaires disrespecting the flag based on a complete and total lie is not unecessarily picking a fight?

All of these fuckers need to be put on the breadline.

To the fullest extent possible, they will not be getting dime one from me.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (9A6UB)

133 128 americanliterature.com/author/stephen-crane/

book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary





Posted by: Henry Fleming at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (CRLBR)

I had to read that book in one of my HS literature classes. I hated it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (mpXpK)

134 Whoops, time to get ready for mass. Until next week!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (cfSRQ)

135 The Left is the six year old screaming in the Halloween aisles of Wal-Mart for candy.

And Trump is acting like a parent by giving them negative feedback on their disruptive and selfish behaviour. Which is something these snowflakes have apparently never received before.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (Ktewm)

136 Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good. Thanks!

Posted by: April

Exodus by Leon Uris

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (/yyMv)

137
That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (/yyMv)

You're probably right, but at least they weren't the ones who started this shit.

I have season courtside tickets right next to the visitors bench. If any of those fuckers kneel they'll get a verbal ass whoopin' from me and my husband, FWIW. May have to rethink those tickets too.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (sNESL)

138 Maps: two really good sources:

library.mcmaster.ca/maps

lib.utexas.edu/maps

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (YFnq5)

139 Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.

These people have only 1K of RAM. They aren't programmed for this situation and go back to standard routines.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (oVJmc)

140 You guys posting on the NFL here in the book thread know that there is still a healthy debate going on in the previous thread for that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (mpXpK)

141 On Kindle Unlimited there are many Charles Rivers Editors books on many WWII books on various operations as well as many other eras.
1 they are very inexpensive and often free with that.
2 I have read a few, often on a operation I wanted to know more abut.
3They are historically accurate

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:30 AM (ghofu)

142 TRump is a Culture Warrior. Also he is expanding his base.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (eO2Z0)

143 Wonder if All Hail Eris has managed to loot any bookstores in Vegas?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (Ktewm)

144 You guys posting on the NFL here in the book thread know that there is still a healthy debate going on in the previous thread for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (mpXpK)

Special circumstances on a current hot topic.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (/yyMv)

145
(Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.)

What if it's some version of Asperger's Syndrome? They really can't process information the same way that you or I do. For example, we'll pick up a book or read an article and be able to discern clues almost immediately. We'll quickly open up the full-of-shit file and start dumping the words into that. Hell, I know I can read a copy of Mein Kampf without becoming a Nazi. I will read, and reject, read and reject.

With them it's a straight line into storage. No processing, no filtering. No virus software. Garbage in, garbage out.

Which I believe is behind the campus boycotts to prevent conservatives from speaking. They're afraid. Terrified. Of exposing themselves to something that they can't remove from storage.

My theory. I'm scratching for some logical explanation for the lack of logic on the left.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 10:32 AM (EgwCt)

146 I read "The Reluctant Dragon" by Kenneth Grahame (Wind in the Willows) with illustrations by Seton. Cute story and I love the pen and ink sketches. Also "Ben and Me" by Robert Lawson. The writing is charming and creative, not childish, and the author's illustrations are very good.

I always look odd in the children's section of the library since the shelves barely rise above my waist. There's a certain Gulliver in Lilliput feel. But there is some cute writing on those shelves.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (V+03K)

147 Thanks for the YA suggestions. I had no idea there was so much, so my amazon grandkids' list just quadrupled. These all look great!

Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (e8PP1)

148 I wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.
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I don't get the "unnecessary fight argument".
We have creatures who are nominally "American" by birth tearing down historical monuments in the name of social justice, law enforcement arresting people for "hate crimes" and the multi-millionaire beneficiaries of American dollars flashing their buttcracks at the American flag every week on national tv. And encouraging 4th graders and their stupid, adled-brained parents to do the same. All for "fairness" aka "communism".

We have 40+ years of unpicked fights with the social justice totalitarian left.

They are ALL necessary.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (2wRtc)

149 Currently reading "The Snowman" by Jo Nesbo.

Nice, crisp, evocative prose by the translator so I'm assuming Jo Nesbo writes in the same manner.

Nice build-up by giving us snippets of "Snowman"'s past history/murders.

Harry Hole pretty typical hero of the genre in that he's alcoholic, has blown-up a relationship with his true love, etc, etc. Still, a good guide to what's going on around him do to clear, logical thinking.

"The Snowman" is a horrifying villain.

Not finished yet but unless Nesbo blows the ending- a great popcorn-type read.

Interesting murder device - seems like a variation on the electrosurge units, which your dentist may have used to trim your gums or remove some tissue. Cutting without much or any bleeding, donchaknow. But, we'll see.


Again, not finished yet, but it's not hard to see why Hollywood chose to make this into a movie. Coming in October!

Posted by: H. D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (9q7Dl)

150 Looks like all the players in London who kneeled were black

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (/yyMv)

151 The short circuiting of logic happens via the abuse of emotional triggers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (Ktewm)

152 Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.

Posted by: April
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Hey April - I think "Dispatches" by Michael Herr would be suitable. It's a first person account of parts of the Vietnam War. The writer is embedded with a few different units so he has a Marine and Army perspective. It's an easy read and can be enjoyed on multiple levels.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (tr2D7)

153 As for finding good history for a pre-teen to read: Try finding him some issues of "Military History" magazine. It was my introduction to the topic when I was a teenager. It may be a few years ahead of the lad's reading level (or not, depends upon the kid), but they (sadly, IMHO) changed their format the last 10 years or so & dumbed it down, with more pictures, games, & such, so it might be just right for an 11 year old.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (ANIFC)

154 In Vegas bookies loot you!

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (QC/4S)

155 Off stupid sock! Joey just reads Thomas the Tank Engine books.
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Thomas, Clifford, and Captain Underpants here with mine.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (MIKMs)

156 Today it's kneeling, tomorrow it's more lost civil liberties...

I mean when do the Social Justice Book Burnings start?


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (2wRtc)

157 Looks like all the players in London who kneeled were black
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what. a. stunning.

development.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:36 AM (2wRtc)

158 I mean when do the Social Justice Book Burnings start?


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (2wRtc)

Banning free speech on college campuses is a start

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (/yyMv)

159 Huh. Pixy didn't like the address to Sarah Hoyt's article.

Let's try this:

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/23/left-wants-supermen-rule-arent-even-giants/

Posted by: H. D. Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (9q7Dl)

160 Tearing down statues is a start.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (Ktewm)

161 Why is Trump going after NFL/NBA "unnecessary" fights!

It's hard for me to be brief ANY time, especially about this, but I'll try:

1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.

2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?

3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.

4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)

162 Why wasn't kneeling at NFL games cool when Tebow did it?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (hMwEB)

163 Read Outlaw of Gor (Gor #2) by John Norman where Tarl Cabot returns to Gor (a planet on the other side of the Sun from the Earth) to find his city is gone, and he struggles to survive among hostile natives. Fun adventure tale which focuses on slavery, especially the sexual slavery of beautiful women.

Listened to P Is For Peril by Sue Grafton, where PI Kinsey Millhone is hired to find a doctor who months earlier had left work one evening and vanished. Also runs into trouble when looking to relocate her office. Pretty good book, still many letters to go.

Posted by: waelse1 at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (tH2Js)

164 If you want to fall in love with a reader, go where the readers go. The late Ray Bradbury met his future wife, Marguerite McClure, at Fowler's Bookstore in Los Angeles when he was 22 years old."

Well, I'd advise checking out what they are reading before you make the moves. If a woman is engrossed in "The Handmaid's Tale" or some screed by Andrea Dworkin, steer clear. If a guy is reading Tanesi (or however he spells his stupid name) Coates drivel about how white people all suck, avoid him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:39 AM (P8951)

165 Robb White had a hell of a life. Most Interesting? You decide.
Let's not let it pass that he also wrote "Up Periscope," which I call a classic.

And no one has mentioned Johnny Tremain, by Esther Forbes. So, that one.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 10:39 AM (H5rtT)

166 MNW, this is to put it succinctly Total Culture War. The Left does not believe any part of society is off-limits for them to usurp and twist.

Trump is recognizing this.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (Ktewm)

167 162 Why wasn't kneeling at NFL games cool when Tebow did it?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (hMwEB)


Because he's a white Christian male that was suppose to be aborted. Duh!

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (Enq6K)

168 Trump goes after NFL sjwness because he views himself as the voice of hus supporters.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (hMwEB)

169 102 Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is,...

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)

She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (y7DUB)


( *snort* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (gG2l4)

170 150 Looks like all the players in London who kneeled were black

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (/yyMv)


But notice all the staff standing behind them locked arm-in-arm.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (Enq6K)

171 140 Vic

After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.

I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (v6Osy)

172 And if a person of either sex is flipping though Hillary's book, avoid them if her or she is not snickering derisively.

If that person is not a he or she but a xer, avoid them no matter what.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (P8951)

173 My first purchases as a very young teenager were Purnell's History of the Second World War, a periodical that came out weekly. I have more than a good half ( originals I bought)and found more on Ebay some years ago so am only short a few out of over 100. They were written often by military officers of all nations who were at the actions discribed. It covers all parts of the war in chronological order.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (ghofu)

174 Just another weirdness: so NFL pro athletes can stand in respect to another country's anthem, but must play games to disrespect their own. Makes no sense.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (MIKMs)

175 Donna V... if that somexer is dressed as Rainbow Dash whilst reading Hillary's book... run run quickly.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (Ktewm)

176 It's hard for me to be brief ANY time, especially about this, but I'll try:

1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.

2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?

3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.

4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)

The "Culture War" may be the most important issue outside of National Defense we have. It DRIVES all the other issues. And he has enemies becauses he has the termidity to breath

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:44 AM (/yyMv)

177 @127
I think that DJT exposing, fighting against, and ridiculing the PC cancer is a core mission of his Presidency, and one of the few things that may actually reverse the progressive ratchet and turn our culture around.
But.... the tactic of fighting against everyone is, IMO, not the most successful in every context.
The 30-40% of brain-destroyed hard lefters are unreachable. But there is a significant part of our country that remains somewhere in the uninformed or uncommitted middle. For them, simply fighting for the sake of fighting is not going to impress, and often turns them the other way. And, if I may be so sexist (as I know I may, here) this is particularly true of the wimmen Independents, who I think tend to shut down when they just hear too much angry.
So, if you want to help bring the young woman professionals into the ranks, the suburban Moms, etc, and millenial dudes (who really, are half chick anyway) I think that picking too many fights too obviously is not the way to go.
So yes, I think DJT should find a way to have people stop talking about him "vs the NFL" which I think is unproductive.

Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 10:44 AM (BsGS1)

178 By November kneeling will be required by the NFL.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (3myMJ)

179 But notice all the staff standing behind them locked arm-in-arm.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (Enq6K)

Yeah I saw. Lemmings and useful idiots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (/yyMv)

180 Tovaritch New Soviet Man, go milk the radio

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (Ktewm)

181 North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.

----

The Leftists aligned against us seem capable of fighting us in all of these arenas at the same time, why can't our President - the only person fighting for us - do the same?

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 10:46 AM (ANIFC)

182 I highly support finding historical atlases at places like Half Price Books, where they still aren't cheap, since you can use them to supplement any historical literature using names you have no idea where they are and don't include maps. Gibbon is possibly the worst in that regard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:46 AM (y7DUB)

183 Well yer British Empire ended slavery, like, 20 some years before we did, so all Brits will be 20 years more moral, until the end of time. There is that.

Today will tell a tale. (1) the contracted NFL coverage networks will not move their cameras anywhere near the Kneeling Controversy. We'll be relying on conflicting news net reports, hand-phone video, and calls from the game to know what's really going on kneeler-wise;

(2)if this really does catch on today, that kneeling is a Stand Agin' Trump ("Squattin' in our White House"), expect to see it at the symphony, in church, and every night on Jimmy Kimmel by the end of the week.

In addition to bringing in Tebow to lead the kneel, how about installing kneelers in front of the benches? Could probably get the team physicians to demand them, because these guys have pretty fragile joints.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (H5rtT)

184 To anybody who thinks President DJT going after the sjw's in popular culture is beneath him, think again.

Politics is downstream from culture. That's why lefties/progressives have been so successful at forcing their will upon the rest of us.

DJT understands that the battles are fought in the culture before they ever make it to politics.

It's a lot easier to mock the dummies who think men with penises are women with penises than it is to get those men out of the women's bathroom once culture has decided that women have penises.

Posted by: Boots at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (EBwPV)

185 161 Why is Trump going after NFL/NBA "unnecessary" fights!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)


Trump didn't start the fight. They brought the fight to him.

3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.

This is what a culture war looks like. "NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law" ignores the fact that politics is downstream from culture, not vice versa.

"F them forget about it" is all we've done so far until Trump and fat lot of good that has done us.

So yeah, this is what a culture war looks like.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (gG2l4)

186 Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.


******


Somebody ought to tell them they're standing up to the tune of "My Country 'Tis Of Thee".

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (wPiJc)

187 Oddly enough I was practicing my kneeling yesterday, and my cross ankle sit, and my prone position.

Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (BsGS1)

188 The players are half witted idiots, of course. The owners could put a stop to this nonsense, if they wanted to.

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (QC/4S)

189 .
Indulge me please, but if someone is going to library sales, a fascinating glimpse into US kid lit is 'St Nicholas Magazine'. Picked up a few bound editions (falling apart) for free and my kids could not even begin to comprehend the writing, games, and puzzles that were considered mass market back then. They took them to school for show and tell and talked about their grandparents and great-grandparents being the same age and that is what they were reading.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (MIKMs)

190 Anna & votermom

OK, I respect & understand your position.

I'm probably a lot older than you, & old people get timid-- remember too many defeats I think of political capital as a wasting asset, & ...I don't like to see it wasted. Otho, he got elected, & I didn't, so...

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (v6Osy)

191 I did notice a week ago or so a new used book store close by, I do need to go see whats there. Hopefully good stuff.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (ghofu)

192 If that person is not a he or she but a xer, avoid them no matter what.
Posted by: DonnaV sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (P8951)


If you see some guy reading Ta-Nahisi Butthurt in a library, he may be doing it not because he wants to but because he's taking a class and it's a requirement.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (gG2l4)

193 Just another weirdness: so NFL pro athletes can stand in respect to another country's anthem, but must play games to disrespect their own. Makes no sense.

Posted by: mustbequantum


Maybe it's because America was involved in the slave trade, but England ... never mind.

Posted by: William Wilberforce at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (/qEW2)

194 i'm waiting on two library books - The Bronx is Burning, which is the story of my hometown's Annis Horribilius (sp). I remember the blackouts, riots and Son of Sam. I shake my head when I see evidence among the transplants and newbies act like it can't happen again.

other one A gentleman in Moscow.

just finished 'the axe" a decidedly non comic crime novel by Don Westlake. A middle class middle management middle aged guy who;s been with one company his whole life is laid off when his firm shutters his company and moves everything to Canada. A very dark look inside the middle class sense of betrayal and the misery of job hunting at that stage of life, the impact on families and communities...and one man's desperate solution.
It was compelling and disturbing and after I finished it I had to give it away because I couldn't have it in my apartment. I don't need any more help feeling like that, thanks.

before that I tried a series of short story collections by current authors but sheesh, what a bunch of jerks.

Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (11H2y)

195 I wonder what percentage of those kneeling players have white agents?

Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (YFnq5)

196 Hollywood can give the finger to middle America because they make tons of money from foreign releases. The NFL? Hahaha!

Do those boneheads imagine that left wing Euros will suddenly become fans of American football because of their anti-American stance? They'll applaud the idiot players -and then go back to watching soccer and rugby and cricket.

Football is the least exportable of American sports. Hockey, basketball and baseball all have a fan base outside of the US. Football does not, and will not create one by pissing on American fans.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (P8951)

197
OK, I respect & understand your position.

==

how are we gonna get in a proper flame fight when you are so nice!
*puts down flamethrower*

have a pancake?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:51 AM (hMwEB)

198 1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.


Oh ? "high office"? So we have royalty now? Give me a break.

2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?


Yes. His enemies are OUR enemies. And he reveals more of them all the time. Thank God.


3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.


He Tweets his opinions. Must all expression of personal opinion by a President be governed by Federal law?


4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.

And he Tweets about those as well. Trump has more bandwidth than you seem to understand. A 20 second Tweet is not going to result in America failure to keep an eye on our enemies - Kim Jong Un or John McCain.

I'm sure Mitt or Jeb would have been much more conciliatory and certainly more to your liking.

Maybe Trump will roll over and expose his belly like a true GOP'r soon. Then we can be free of all this "unseemliness".

*eyeroll*

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:52 AM (2wRtc)

199 Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war?

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I enjoy the history books of Forrest Gump author Winston Groom. They're not hard core history in the sense that they discuss the GNP's effect on ball bearing production etc., they basically just tell what happened with the emphasis on personal stories. I quite liked Shrouds of Glory about the 1864 Nashville campaign. Storm Over Flanders about the WWI battles of Ypres was a!so quite good, WWI in microcosm.

https://tinyurl.com/y9fjcoma

I don't know how availab!e they are now but the novel The Secret Sea by Robb White started me on a lifetime of reading. White wrote a large number of boy's adventure novels and I read damn near all of them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 10:53 AM (Nwg0u)

200 Anti- trust exemption, target next

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (kMeaV)

201 Britebart has a article many NFL team upper management have signed on for Trump Derangement Syndrome, Falcons, 49ers, Dolphins, G'ints, Packers.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (ghofu)

202 I am reading Natural Born Heroes by Christopher McDougall.
The heart of the book is the Cretan resistance in World War II. Basically a bunch of ragged Cretan shepherds kept the Germans occupied long enough to delay the start of their Russian campaign just long enough to guarantee they would run into the Russian winter.
It's also delves into how physically small people can defeat much larger people using the natural springiness of the fascia and dirty, viciously dirty, fighting.
There's a chapter detailing how two relatively old Brits, who had learned their chops in old Hong Kong, trained Winston Churchill dirty tricks squad.
The techniques essentially amount to weaponized parkour.
Anyhow I'm finding it fascinating.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (nBr1j)

203 The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office
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This attitude right here is what keeps Flake, McConnell, Graham, Ryan and McCain in office , term after term after term after term after term after term...

Enough.

They are elected to carry out OUR will. Nothing more.

Want dignified royalty? Europe has plenty for ya.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (2wRtc)

204 171
140 Vic



After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.



I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (v6Osy)

When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)

205 I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.

Yeah...I ended up hating those books with a passion.

Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (uaHyk)

206 @202 sounds interesting

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:56 AM (QC/4S)

207 If you see some guy reading Ta-Nahisi Butthurt in a library, he may be doing it not because he wants to but because he's taking a class and it's a requirement.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (gG2l4)

True. So you'd have to quiz him:

"How do you like that book? Is it worth reading?"

a. "Meh. I have to read it for a class I'm taking."
b. "It sucks big time What a whiner!"
c. "It's fascinating and I'm finding out a lot of things about my white privilege I never knew before."

a and b. are acceptable. C means you run away.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:56 AM (P8951)

208 I liked Golden Compass because the little girl who was a natural and inventive liar rang true to me.

I didn't care for the sequels, or for the terrible things that happen to kids.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:57 AM (hMwEB)

209 201 Britebart has a article many NFL team upper management have signed on for Trump Derangement Syndrome, Falcons, 49ers, Dolphins, G'ints, Packers.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (ghofu)


Including Bob Kraft. Statement he issued this morning:


http://tinyurl.com/ya9pppd4

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:57 AM (Enq6K)

210 "NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law"

--

"The police acted stupidly."

"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

Injecting oneself as Preezy is ok in some situations, but not others?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 24, 2017 10:58 AM (mQ0Mc)

211 Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is,...

'Divisive' = calling libs out for their divisiveness

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 10:58 AM (oVJmc)

212 I'm not heavily invested in the culture war/NFL stuff.

I guess I'm just reflexively anxious that Trump is going to really hurt himself one of these days over some silly (to me) culture war issue.

I watch the "Rasmussen Daily Presidential JA" poll like the proverbial hawk. He was doing quite a lot better after his disaster outreach & his UN speech, but you watch what will happen to Rasmussen now. These controversies (Charlottesville; all the others before that one) do NOT help.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:59 AM (v6Osy)

213 This is what actually engaging in the culture wars looks like.

The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.

I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.

Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.

We cannot spare this man, he fights.

He fights for us.

We must fight for him.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:59 AM (9A6UB)

214 @203
I hate elitism, but "gentleman" does not equal "pussy."
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.

Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (BsGS1)

215 When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)


You, and everyone else, are not prevented from posting 'topic' comments. OM is on the thread. If he would like us to stop, he can certainly tell us to and we will.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (Enq6K)

216
A beat-up paperback copy of Robb White's "Secret Sea" that I bought in the *cough* 70s *cough* for 3.99 is now selling for 29 bucks on eBay.

I hope that someone somewhere is digitally preserving these little gems so that they might be republished again someday.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (2wRtc)

217 210 lady

Straw man much?

I guess I'm an Obama lover now somehow?

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (v6Osy)

218 I've been reading "Spark, The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain" by John Ratey, MD.

Excellent book that delves into how exercise induces chemical changes in the brain to alleviate depression, and other emotional and mental issues. Very detailed, with lots of research behind it. Ratey is a member of Harvard Medical School's faculty and has a long list of published work.

http://www.johnratey.com/

Besides being an excellent learning volume, it also is quite motivating to get off the couch and move.
The stats he has on a couple of middle schools that incorporated much more schedule athletic time for students is very interesting in it's results on test scores and behavior.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (/Qs0S)

219 Oh so fucking concerned.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (rmVvL)

220 Football is the least exportable of American sports. Hockey, basketball and baseball all have a fan base outside of the US. Football does not, and will not create one by pissing on American fans.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (P8951)


The trouble with these glorified puppets called commissioners is that those gelded monkeys will never countermand the dumbfuck ideas of a predecessor. I think Rozelle, the last commissioner who cared about the integrity of the game, in a weak moment decided to play a game "across the pond" (dear God in heaven I despise that term; it's an ocean, ignorant cocksuckers) and everyone since thinks "Welp we can't diss the memory of Pete". So they expand it to that diarrhea pit to the south. Idiots.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 11:03 AM (y7DUB)

221 A beat-up paperback copy of Robb White's "Secret Sea" that I bought in the *cough* 70s *cough* for 3.99 is now selling for 29 bucks on eBay.
---------------------------------------

I just checked Amazon, and there are four used paperbacks at about five bucks.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (m9X4Y)

222 He as most all historians agree on, wrongly incorporated the Saxon Army into his. They melted away as fast as they could deserting at every chance.

Justinian II had the same problem. He transferred a Slavic nation into Anatolia to use it against the Arabs. The Arabs offered a better deal. Justinian lost his war, his province, and eventually his nose.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (6FqZa)

223 Still reading the second book in the Lies of Locke Lamora series. Very enjoyable.

Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?

Posted by: NJRob at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (hkj67)

224 This is what actually engaging in the culture wars looks like.
The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.
I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.
Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.
We cannot spare this man, he fights.
He fights for us.
We must fight for him.


Posted by: Kreplach
==

dammit, Krep.

If I had the ability to write at all, I would have written this.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (2wRtc)

225 Greetings, O Book Thread! I want that library, and I want a butler to (quietly) serve me tea in it so I don't have to get out of my comfy chair whilst reading.

Even though I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it, I have found employment again which will put a crimp on the writing all day plan. Well, I have two weeks before I start so I will just have to do what I can. I need to win the lottery or something so I don't have to worry about steady income.

It makes me very happy to see how many Moron and Moron-affiliated writers there are! Don't forget, if you enjoyed the book leave a review. Reviews are like gold to us writers.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (hnzFp)

226 Oh so fucking concerned.

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and reasonable.

we must be reasonable.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (m9X4Y)

227 Actually American football does have some fan base outside of the US.Still they can't afford to turn off American fans and they are going find out good and hard.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (rmVvL)

228 Yowza! I see a bunch of people beat me to recommending Robb White.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (Nwg0u)

229 Reviews are like gold to us writers.

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Unless they are bad reviews

Which makes me fear that no review is a bad review the reviewer preferred to not post.

Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:07 AM (m9X4Y)

230 April - One of my earliest memories is circa age 8, reading Samuel Eliot Morison's "The Two Ocean War." Great overview of the U.S. Navy in WW2.

Also, Eric Hammel wrote an incredibly well-written trilogy about Guadalcanal, starting with "Starvation Island."


Posted by: William Alan Webb at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (OhYcy)

231 203 Mortimer

Wanna retire Flake?

Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.

That right THERE is how we get rid of these worthless POSs.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (v6Osy)

232 hate elitism, but "gentleman" does not equal "pussy."
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.
===

"Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (QC/4S)

233 The owner of the NY Giants opened his cock sucking mouth about Trump's "divisive" comments.God how the left just loves that word.Was Obama "divisive"?Are assholes disrespecting their country "divisive"?Are lefties saying conservatives should be locked up(if not killed outright) "divisive"?Go suck a fat dick Goodell and Mara.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (rmVvL)

234 OT, but I had a great time and lots of fun when the movie thread included a mashup of film titles. The collective wit, energy and esprit de corps and sheer fun kept me engaged and interested for far longer than I usually am on these threads, and lured me out of my usual lurker posture.
A lot of the 'ace's greatest hits" posts came out of similar random group acts of sophmoric humor.

Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 11:09 AM (11H2y)

235 I'm done with these fucktards and I'm not alone.Watch the ratings and the gate suffer.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (rmVvL)

236 [Also posted in Goodreads]

Do any other authors encounter this problem? You are writing something inspired by personal events and experiences, and it is fictional, not at all meant to be a memoir, or a collection of biographies, and you want to create a figure based on a real-life person, and you need to create an identity for your figure, and yet . . . the real-life person happens to have such an awesome, archetypal name, that you despair all hope of creating a better one for your character. I have that with three peeps in my novel and going, and don't know how to square that circle.

One of the three maybe I can force myself around, because he (from an amortizing perspective) is probably deceased so for guilt's sake I would be all right; another is off the grid; so, I am in limbo. The third is a beloved family member.

Has anyone else been in this bind? This is no light matter: The names of these three people are pure poetry.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (GsAUU)

237 Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there? He isn't fit to tie Lewis' shoes.

Few are.

For instance I still want my Jewish Narnia. Not tikkun-olam liberalism masquerading as Judaism; not critiques of Christianity. And not Tolkien's Dwarves; however sympathetic they might be, they're still an outsider's look. I want an actual positive vision of Judaism in fantasy.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (6FqZa)

238 Well, I am still sticking by my Barbara Tuchman recommendation for young people who want to learn more about history. Readable for advanced middle-school, with plenty of footnotes for further study; but most of all just a sample to hopefully spark further explorations. I always over-recommend and over-explain when I am interested in something, so my kids and their friends would tune out -- too nerdly -- and generic overviews are a good start.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (MIKMs)

239
The Average American Leftist will support the burning of the American Flag at the drop of a hat. (Yep, political speech--I get it)


But, by God All Mighty, they wouldn't DREAM of burning the North Korean, Iranian, Soviet (back in the day), Chinese, Venezuelan or Cuban Flag etc etc etc...


....because THAT would be disrespectful.




I just finished reading William F. Buckley's "On the Firing Line" -- great excerpts from his talk show

...and now starting my 5 book set of Kiplings Short Stories (Folio Society Edition) ...looking forward to it.

Hope everyone is reading something GOOD this week...with all the b.s. going on.... *


* sits back in leather chair and cracks open first volume

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (tDTdL)

240
Trump is 'divisive' in the sense that he's going to help divide some money from the NFL to other pursuits.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (EgwCt)

241 238 mbq

Good suggestion.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (v6Osy)

242 Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?

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I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)

243 Even though I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it, I have found employment again which will put a crimp on the writing all day plan. Well, I have two weeks before I start so I will just have to do what I can. I need to win the lottery or something so I don't have to worry about steady income.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (hnzFp)


Congrats on your new-found employment, Sabrina.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (gG2l4)

244 Actually MNW, Trump is just recapitulating what Machiavelli wrote about.

The Left never respected McCain or either Bush. McCain never pushed back because he thinks he needs them to salve his brittle ego. GW Bush operated under the theory of limited political capital it seems, so he tried to concentrate on certain areas and he was chewed up and spit out just like his father.

Trump, like Reagan, is talking directky to We the People and showing that political capital can be created Capital that can be used to expand the Culture War fight. Trump is making them respect him because they will never like him.

Or to use an Arab phrase, Trump is the strong horse. Or even in American football terms, people like a winner. Trump is a winner.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (Ktewm)

245 (I'm going to suggest this is on-topic for a book thread, because Las Vegas bookmakers are heavily involved in the NFL, hence book-related)




Many NFL players are men of conviction...









...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)

246 The owner of the NY Giants opened his cock sucking mouth about Trump's "divisive" comments.God how the left just loves that word.Was Obama "divisive"?Are assholes disrespecting their country "divisive"?Are lefties saying conservatives should be locked up(if not killed outright) "divisive"?Go suck a fat dick Goodell and Mara.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (rmVvL)

Yup....x1000. Open wide Bob Tisch too. Cram it in there.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (5VlCp)

247 And he Tweets about those as well. Trump has more bandwidth than you seem to understand. A 20 second Tweet is not going to result in America failure to keep an eye on our enemies - Kim Jong Un or John McCain.

^This. I've had this same argument with people IRL. When they make same argument that he should stop Tweeting because it keeps him from the important issues I ask if they really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's bare knuckle style.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

248 Wanna retire Flake?



Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.
==

I did online. Twice.
My money is definitely where my mouth is.

General Washington did not win the Culture War against elitist royalty by marching in the British-mandated , historically-approved, attrition-based, politically-acceptable manner.

War and politics are won by the guy who will do what no one else will.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (2wRtc)

249 This week I've been reading _Hillbilly Elegy_ by J.D. Vance. A number of other Morons have already posted about it, and I've got little to add. It's a good book, but it's in the category of "read once" rather than a book I expect to return to again and again.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 24, 2017 11:15 AM (o0Pn2)

250 Straw man much?

--

Not a straw man. Obama injected himself into non-federal issues, is that not correct? In an incendiary fashion. Only he did it with a microphone in his face. Trump took his to Twitter. The truth is likely that neither should comment on things not related to their role as president. However, for doing essentially the same thing, Obama was hailed. Trump is assailed. You know, the typical D vs. R hypocrisy.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 24, 2017 11:15 AM (mQ0Mc)

251 When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)


Indeed. I run a looser ship than Monty used to. That's by design. If there's some newsworthy event, like a terrorist attack or natural disaster, that I know is going to suck up a lot of bandwidth, I'll set up an additional thread below the book thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:16 AM (gG2l4)

252 Woohoo Sabrina. Glad you got employment.

Yeah a lottery or a best seller that makes buckets of money would be nice. Are you going to enter anything into Amazon's Pen to Publish contest?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:17 AM (Ktewm)

253 245 (I'm going to suggest this is on-topic for a book thread, because Las Vegas bookmakers are heavily involved in the NFL, hence book-related)

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)


I'll allow it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:18 AM (gG2l4)

254 242 Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?

-
I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)

I listen to Audible in my car and love it.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 11:18 AM (nBr1j)

255 * sits back in leather chair and cracks open first volume Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (tDTdL)
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LOL. I have embarrassed myself waaaay too often by getting comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off. Won't sit in those things at all now and I don't care how cool and chic they are.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)

256 Seen at the bookstore: James Kugel, "The Great Shift".
http://theatln.tc/2wKd40U

This book teaches that the ancient Hebrew conception of the prophetic mind was that it was permeable, to the actions of spirits and of G-d himself. The prophet wouldn't even know he was a prophet, at first; he'd meet some stranger on the road, or in some aethereal plane, and then wake up. That's the point he (or she) would realise - oh dear, I just met God or an angel, so I guess I'm a prophet now.

This same conception is held by the Greeks and, I'd add, the pre-Islamic Arab poets. The muses in the former case, the jinn in the latter.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (6FqZa)

257 Audio books while driving.

For some reason, audio input while driving seems to increase alertness and helps focus the mind. I don't know why.

Telephone conversations, on the other hand, do not increase alertness in driving. Instead, the mind focuses on the other person, and blanks out visual input, and cognitive functions focus on the conversation with the other person.

I haven't found any other activity where audio books, or music, have that effect.

When I'm writing, I have to have complete silence. I can't have two realities in my head at the same time. To really listen to music, that has to be my only activity; to listen.

Perhaps that is just me.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (m9X4Y)

258 most of the green bay packers plan on kneeling today. that whole organization can eat a bag o dicks. fuck them. hope they go bankrupt.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (KP5rU)

259 Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM
~~~~~~

Here's the list of NFL arrests to date just for 2017 alone--31 so far.

https://www.usatoday.com/ sports/nfl/arrests/2017/all/all/

(remove the space before "sports")

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (HiDrR)

260 I see that Nelson DeMille (greatest living American author IMO) published "The Cuban Affair" in 2017. Has anyone read it? I can't wait to read it.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)

261 have embarrassed myself waaaay too often by getting
comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)

Wear chaps.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wYseH)

262 ...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)


You forgot

...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)

263 I'll allow it.
Posted by: OregonMuse

*****


Whew! That was touch and go for a second. Nonetheless I will abandon that topic for now and allow someone else to be my VAUNTPARLER.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wPiJc)

264 I started reading 3 men in a boat, its been recommended on previous book threads. I'm enjoying it. It was written in 1898 and is another example of the expectations of historical and literature background knowledge. The book itself is just a light hearted bit of satirizing the middle class young gentlemen of the time IMO but one character is prone to day dreaming about historical stuff that happened at the various places.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (8qFZP)

265 I'm slogging my way through Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, something that's been on my to-read list for *cough cough* years now. I'm not that far into into it yet but it's fascinating stuff. I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. Great movie. It made you feel like you were right there watching Berlin crumble around you. The mixture of fanaticism, despair and helplessness was intense. It made you think about what the average German must have felt as the promise of a glorious Thousand Year Reich was being blown to rubble.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (NWiLs)

266 Leather chaps whilst sitting in a leather chair....

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (Ktewm)

267
Many NFL players are men of conviction...

...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)


Well I'll be dog-gone, I didn't make the list.

Posted by: Michael Vick at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (EgwCt)

268 Green Bay is owned by the fans. That should go over very well. Carry on...

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:22 AM (QC/4S)

269 262 ...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)

You forgot

...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)


Addiction to gambling?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:23 AM (TdMsT)

270 Anna. Sure hope you're right.

W had an athlete who twice publicly declined to visit the WH (Red Sox catcher), & W just ignored him.

I don't view W's presidency as quite the abysmal failure many here probably do. The Lehman Brothers disaster did W in & gave us 8 years of Zero.

Let's remember PDT has been in office exactly 9 months. Let's see how this culture war works out in the '18 election before we evaluate the wisdom of engaging on EVERYTHING.

Many pollsters contend that off-year election results correlate closely wth the sitting President's approval rating.

Right now, the generic ballot is D+6. In 2014, when GOP made huge gains, it was R+1.5. I have ... concerns.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:24 AM (v6Osy)

271 *taps chin*

Just might have enough time to get ready, a showing of the new Kingsman starts in 90 minutes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:24 AM (Ktewm)

272 260 I see that Nelson DeMille (greatest living American author IMO) published "The Cuban Affair" in 2017. Has anyone read it? I can't wait to read it.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)

He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (Enq6K)

273 I'm slogging my way through Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, something that's been on my to-read list for *cough cough* years now. I'm not that far into into it yet but it's fascinating stuff. I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. Great movie. It made you feel like you were right there watching Berlin crumble around you. The mixture of fanaticism, despair and helplessness was intense. It made you think about what the average German must have felt as the promise of a glorious Thousand Year Reich was being blown to rubble.
Posted by: Insomniac

Rent Cross of Iron

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (kMeaV)

274 >>>Yowza! I see a bunch of people beat me to recommending Robb White.

ROBB WHITES? I ALWAYS RECOMMENDED THAT.

Posted by: AL SHARPTON at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (/qEW2)

275 ...I ask if they
really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is
truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a
vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Trump is a master of time management. During the primary especially he would "phone in" to multiple shows, give snappy memorable interviews, dominate the news cycle by 8 am, and then go campaigning. The other sixteen were still listening to their media and PR gurus, getting dressed and make-uped, riding down to studios, sitting around waiting for their five minutes, then leave and go do it again if they were lucky. Trump got five or six interviews in to their one. He is doing the same thing with Twitter. He sets the agenda everyday before he leaves for his office. When he is tired of something or ready for the next issue he changes the subject.

Posted by: Lester at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (LfJIn)

276 most of the green bay packers plan on kneeling today. that whole organization can eat a bag o dicks. fuck them. hope they go bankrupt.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM
~~~~~

For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)

277 Also seen at the bookstore: some stuff published from Prometheus Books. Prometheus is the hardcore atheist imprint.

On the one hand they put out a translation of a leyenda negra against Pius XII and his relationships with "fascists": God and the Fascists. The claims made here have been refuted many a time on the HQ book threads. Since Franco was not a fascist, just mentioning him in the same sentence as Mussolini and the Ustashe proves the author to be a stinking liar.

Prometheus also put out Robert Manne, The Mind of the Islamic State. This parallels McCants and Spencer in looking into the documents which outline Baghdadi's ideology. I *would* recommend it... if not for the publisher, which is now pinging my Gell Mann Amnesia radar.

Since McCants and Spencer were both imperfect, McCants being pro-Muhammad and Spencer being... Spencer, I'd found that I had to read both McCants and Spencer to get a good picture on ISIS-Brain. I suggest assuming that Manne is imperfect too and reading his book as a third leg in the triangulation tripod.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (6FqZa)

278 I'm reading boulder toilet hobo's book on Islam, House of War. It's interesting, and we'll written, if very academic.

I'm also reading one of my textbooks, a history of modern macroeconomic thought, that I didn't read completely during grad school. Finally, I also occasionally pull out Marcus Aurelius' Meditations.

A couple of.weeks ago I finished The Beautiful and the Damned, by F. Scott Fitzgerald. It was good. It's about a young couple who marry and spend the years leading up to the first world War spending away the husband's trust fund until they're left penniless, all while embroiled in a legal battle over his inheritance.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 24, 2017 11:27 AM (z7cQS)

279 I ask if they really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)


Not to mention he's up everyday around 4 am....probably 6 hours more in his awake day than Odumbo.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:27 AM (Enq6K)

280 248 Mortimer

My other self!

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (v6Osy)

281 "I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. "

Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.

The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (cAXIk)

282 If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (oVJmc)

283 Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault


Don't forget murder!

Ow... be gentle with those barbs...

Posted by: Aaron Hernandez at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (6FqZa)

284 Audible is great.

My HD8 has a timer, so if I want to listen before I nap, it will turn itself off.

One caveat: I love maps, and Audible books of course lack those.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (GsAUU)

285 Magda proved Kipling's warning about Afghan women can apply elsewhere. Geez was she hardcore.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (Ktewm)

286 Speaking of the NFL, the Ravens are shitting their nest.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (GsAUU)

287 Colorado Alex in Exile: hey, thanks!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (6FqZa)

288 ...domestic violence

...drug possession

...weapons offenses

...assault

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)



You forgot



...DUI

...cruelty to animals

...vehicular manslaughter

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)





Addiction to gambling?
---

Here's the thing.

This list ONLY applies to White NFL players.

In a non-white minority player has any of these issues, it's because he has had to live in a white world, and therefore is a victim who CANNOT ever be held responsible for his actions.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:30 AM (aT+Bx)

289 To the .01% of fantasy players who started Marcedes Lewis at tight end, congratulations on your win.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (GsAUU)

290 Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (HiDrR)

Surprised there is only one from OAK.

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (bfUpy)

291 Wear chaps..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wYseH)
=====

Yeah, too bad my fat arse is still covered by something. Just can't wrap my head around chaps only.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (MIKMs)

292 281 "I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. "

Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.

The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (cAXIk)

Yes. Simultaneously fanatical and ice cold.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

293 Trump won't get much support from NFL players. NFL is 60+% AA.

Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (v6Osy)

294 Obama injected himself into non-federal issues, is that not correct? In an incendiary fashion.
==

I see what you mean now.

I agree. I would rather our leaders express opinions in public than spew politically-correct marketing material.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (2wRtc)

295 Shibumi, in the Dominion Tank Police universe, Uni and I can't be held responsible for all the crimes we committed. We are after all android AIs, how can we be held accountable if our programming is buggy nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (Ktewm)

296 "I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War." "

I haven't read this, but my neighbor's late father was a veteran of the Lincoln Battalion, and I interviewed him a few decades ago. He was not impressed with the Russian "advisors" and remarked that the Russian rifles were so poorly made that the stocks fell off in one's hand. He returned to the States when the international brigades were pulled out; said he had serious infections in his feet from poor diet.
He told me he was not particularly "political" beforehand, but was fascinated by Spain, and was learning chicken farming, and he hoped to contribute to improving Spanish agriculture. He seems to have joined the American volunteers on a whim, when one of his friends was going.

When he went into the U.S. Army, he wanted very much to fight in Europe, especially since he had undergone infiltration training in Spain, but the army considered him "politically suspicious" and kept him Stateside. At least they had him giving lectures on "why we fight." He always considered himself one of the "premature anti-Fascists."

Posted by: Alifa at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (96yfN)

297 I'm in the mood for silly and humorous reading. Haven't started them yet but I dug out my copies of "Bored of the Rings", the Calvin and Hobbes collections, and the two books comedian Alan King wrote back in the early 1960s.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (V+03K)

298 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (6FqZa)

--Pius XII has been exonerated, at least in my mind.

The late Sir Martin Gilbert, Churchill's official biographer, married to a scholar of the Holocaust --oh, and a Jew-- said the case against Pius is ridiculous.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (GsAUU)

299 Kneeling - meh.

Kneeling is a sign of submission. You kneel before your God. You kneel before your King when he bestows great honor upon you.

All this modern kneeling is just not standing. If the announcer were to say, let us kneel in reverence to our national anthem, these attention seeking juveniles would stand. During moments of reverent silence, they would talk and laugh, and horse around.

It is nothing more than rebellion, and a demand for attention.

I'm not giving them any attention. They don't deserve it.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (m9X4Y)

300 If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles
________

Can't always blame the cops when a black guy gets shot.

Posted by: Plaxico Burress at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (zkGZ8)

301 OT: Looks like Germany is going to elect Merkel again.

Wouldn't it be easier and more efficient to just fire up the ovens and send out letters informing her subjects when they need to show up?

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (aT+Bx)

302 What Vic said. Back in Hammurabi's day if you veered off from discussing his Code into complaining about those damned Elamites the king used to have the off-topic scribe bashed on the head with his own clay tablets

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (6FqZa)

303

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)

He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (Enq6K)


"Spencerville" was kind of a dog, though. Not worth reading.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (TdMsT)

304 Missed a lot of book threads lately as this has become my range time.
Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !
Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.
Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (Z8R9P)

305 Roger Goodell just got a big fat contract extension because he's made the NFL a marketing machine that has pumped up the value of NFL franchises. This can quickly change.

By taking a soft approach with Kaepernick, Goodell has let the contagion spread. Now players feel they have to protest, and Goodell (and the owners) now can't contain it.

Ratings and attendance will decline. The new LA franchises are especially at risk. Try getting another municipality to go broke to pay for a new stadium.

And then watch when TV network contracts come up for renewal.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:36 AM (cAXIk)

306 Back in Hammurabi's day if you veered off from discussing his Code into complaining about those damned Elamites the king used to have the off-topic scribe bashed on the head with his own clay tablets
===

yikes !

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (QC/4S)

307 It's ok to be divisive ... in your mind. Just don't say anything about it. PDT is divisive because he might encourage other people to be openly divisive. But he should not. By golly, he SHALL not!

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (/qEW2)

308 *looks at ticket price*

$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (Ktewm)

309 So, I began wondering about the linkage between sports and the National Anthem. A quick Bing search dredges up this book:


Star-Spangled Banner
The Unlikely Story of America's National Anthem

by Marc Ferris

Is anybody familiar with this book?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (wPiJc)

310 RE: the NFL, I posted this last night on the ONT from 4chan:

Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on.

1.
Some NFL teams have been looking into firing players who are pulling

this protest shit. But their lawyers have all told them, while they can

do it, the fired players could then take them to court and win. The

49ers were among these teams, who have consulted their lawyers; hence

why CK never got fired. Their lawyers told them it was cheaper to just

let him do his bullshit.

2. Goodell knows he has fucked up big

time, but can't do anything except tacitly let the teams blacklist

players who pull this shit. Goodell and most of the coaches, know that

the players throwing these tantrums have them by the balls. The player's

union has sided with them, creating more problems, and you have hate

machines like ESPN further making it impossible to do anything to reign

players in.

3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering

the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try

and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically

officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in

a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense

of control over it.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (aT+Bx)

311 it is inappropriate for me to mention this norman lloyd here. he is an actor/director/producer mostly for television. most of you people don't watch television; heck, many of you don't even have computers! reading and all, where it is, happening, get down, etc. but he is associated with fairly literate productions. born in 1914, he came up in the 30's, close friends with houseman and wells and later in the 40's became close to hitchcock, acting in several of his movies. he also played recurrent roles in "alfred hitchcock presents", as well as directing and producing episodes. that's where i came across his name as i recently have been watching reruns, such as "old man from the south" (peter lorre bets steve mcqueen his finger if he can't light a zippo 10 straight times in a story by raoul dahl). in any case, lloyd is still acting at 103 years, only recently gave up driving and tennis. his wife, peggy, died in 2011. they were married 75 years. 75 years! thought i'd mention that after reading about bradbury.

but i won't.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (AxFdW)

312 I wish someone would simply ask these NFL idiots EXACTLY WHAT are they protesting by kneeling during the national anthem.

What? What has the United States as a country done that offends them so much that they refuse to acknowledge that they are a citizen loyal to the country. What do they want changed.

Just ONCE would some dipshit television pundit or host ask them this directly.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:39 AM (/Qs0S)

313 Activism Month?

How about just one day? It was good enough when Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well it all turned out.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)

314 308 *looks at ticket price*

$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (Ktewm)

--I haven't seen anything in the theater since American Sniper over two years ago.

And that was in a second-tun theater for $2.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (GsAUU)

315 I'm a pretty big fan of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, so I went to Amazon a while back looking for a copy of Keith's autobiography Pictures of an Exhibitionist.

Prices started at $140 and went up from there. What a way to find out it was out of print.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (tRaq7)

316 As to reading this week, I read and also listened to a very good reading of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer. I know that some historians criticized him (for not being a "real" historian), but it seems to me that if more journalists could go to primary documents plus draw on their own experiences (Shirer was a correspondent based in Berlin in the 1930s as Hitler came to power), we might still have some respect for the (former) profession. Shirer was a very astute observer, and he also got some very daring scoops. I need to find Berlin Diary next.

I also enjoyed Andrew Nagorski's "Hitlerland," which gave a lot of insight into how so many Germans and non-Germans were (at least initially) attracted to Hitler the upcoming politician. Worth remembering.

Now I'm listening to an audiobook version of Teacher Man by Frank McCourt. Sometimes I think he tries to be too Irishly literary, but listening to him reading the book in his Limerick accent is fun, and some of the stories of the students are very moving.

Posted by: Alifa at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (96yfN)

317 If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.
===

It's almost a mathematical relationship within the last 15 years of professional sports: anyone who is able to ascend to that level of athletic competition is almost invariably an anti-social, raging narcissist who has the morals and social relationship skills of a red-assed baboon. Race got nothing to do with it.

There are fewer and fewer exceptions to the rule.

They should read more. ( See? Book Thread-related!)




Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (2wRtc)

318 293 Trump won't get much support from NFL players. NFL is 60+% AA.

Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (v6Osy)


I seriously doubt that's his target audience. His target is those that buy tickets and merchandise. He knows exactly where to hit.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (Enq6K)

319 Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm. I would have to agree.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ8)

320 Norman Lloyd? Dr. Auschlander from 'St. Elsewhere?' Geez, he looked like he would have died back in the 80s.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (oVJmc)

321 304
Missed a lot of book threads lately as this has become my range time.

Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !

Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.

Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.



Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (Z8R9P)

If you like SF check out the Baen Free Library for a good place to start building up your read list.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (mpXpK)

322 Air show coming here next week. There is a circular in today's local fish wrap. The first one here locally was in 1912 on August 27. Aviation Day. We get to hear and see the AF Thunderbirds practicing all week!

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (bfUpy)

323 Another young history recommendation: Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier. It is a memoir of a young guy from Alsace Lorraine with a German mother and a French father who was drafted into the German Army and fights on the Eastern Front. There was some controversy as to whether the story was true, and there are errors of recollection, but I think it is pretty well proved now that it is true. Guy Sajer is a pseudonym for Guy Mouminoux and he did fight on the Eastern Front. He does not present himself as a hero and instead says he was scarcely better than the biggest coward in the outfit. There are some problems with translation. It took me forever to figure out that a "grenade thrower" was a mortar. It's a very you-are-there feeling book of the horrors of war.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)

324 the NFL story is a good example of the FNM twisting a story. Local channel actually played the clip of DJT. "wouldn't you love to see some NFL owner(s) tell the disrespectful very highly paid athletes 'you're fired'?" The FNM acts like he called for firings rather than stating what the average person at his rally was thinking. darn right they'd like to see more owners fire asshole players, even if they have toned down the disrespect from Kraperdreck initially keeping his worthless ass on the bench to the taking a knee.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (8qFZP)

325 262 ...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)

You forgot

...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter

---------------------------------------

Wasn't Aaron Hernandez involved in a murder? And don't forget OJ.

Posted by: Boots at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (EBwPV)

326 Activism Month?
===

Two Minutes Hate

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (2wRtc)

327 Pittsburgh Steelers are not as a team gojng to be on the field during National Anthem today ( Fox Media Buzz)

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (ghofu)

328
How about just one day? It was good enough when
Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well
it all turned out. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)
=====

One month (in a four month season) to let everyone's freak flag fly. Snort.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

329 319 Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm. I would have to agree.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ

--I'm still reading that as well.

I'm way behind the rest of the Book Morons.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (GsAUU)

330 Shibumi,

The NFL lawyers telling them they will be sued is absolute BS. The contract they have between the players and the league specifically states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has proof) never happened.

If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:44 AM (/Qs0S)

331 NFL and murder, don't forget Caruthers of the Carolina Panthers. Put a contract hit on his pregnant girlfriend. She was murdered and her son was born handicapped.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Ktewm)

332 Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on....

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (aT+Bx)


It's kind of funny and kind of sad, watching once-great institutions implode. Hubris blinds them to the reality that they do not and cannot control their own demise, once it gets rolling fast enough.

I think we're past the point of anybody inside the NFL being able to stop this, even if they weren't a complete gaggle of mottled greedy egomaniacs who are pretty much the perfect embodiment of at least three of the first four deadly sins.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

333 I'm reading Katy Tur's book UNbelievable about her covering Trump.

She's remarkably self-absorbed. Doubly so in an account of how she lucked into a long assignment to cover what turned out to be a momentous event.

She also doesn't want to acknowledge that she had a crush of sorts on The Donald, and how he singled her out to play her. No question she'd have gone for the full Fifty Shades treatment if he had asked, and in a way she did by dropping boyfriends along the way to stay hot on Trump's trail.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (cAXIk)

334 Hubby returned from his book signing in STL (Ballwin). Sold 6 books in all, OK for a 2-hr event. The real story is that he also had time to explore downtown STL and he said he had a great time and no problems whatsoever with protestors/rioters. Says all that is being blown way out of proportion by the media.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (9WuX0)

335 308 Anna

The average price for a single seat NFL ticket is $172 (cheaper if you buy a season ticket). Doesn't include parking.

My point is, the fans who can afford these tickets are white, affluent, older suburbanites. So the NFL might not want to rub their noses in SJW bullzhit TOO much.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (v6Osy)

336 to try and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed.


******

I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)

337
A La Carte cable channels.

Crush the Beast.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (2wRtc)

338 323 Another young history recommendation: Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier. It is a memoir of a young guy from Alsace Lorraine with a German mother and a French father who was drafted into the German Army and fights on the Eastern Front. There was some controversy as to whether the story was true, and there are errors of recollection, but I think it is pretty well proved now that it is true. Guy Sajer is a pseudonym for Guy Mouminoux and he did fight on the Eastern Front. He does not present himself as a hero and instead says he was scarcely better than the biggest coward in the outfit. There are some problems with translation. It took me forever to figure out that a "grenade thrower" was a mortar. It's a very you-are-there feeling book of the horrors of war.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)

--I'll probably read that eventually.

Because of the centennial, I am on a serious WWI kick.

Wittgenstein also fought on the Eastern Front (for Austria-Hungary).

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (GsAUU)

339 331 NFL and murder, don't forget Caruthers of the Carolina Panthers. Put a contract hit on his pregnant girlfriend. She was murdered and her son was born handicapped.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Ktewm)

--Ray Carruth

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (GsAUU)

340 For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)


Green Bay is doing this?? What, are they high? Green Bay is a conservative working class town, isn't it? I can see SF or NY pulling this crap, but for Green Bay to do it, they're cutting their own throats.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (gG2l4)

341 275 The other sixteen were still listening to their media and PR gurus, getting dressed and make-uped,

makeup, makeupping, makeupped. one who makeups: makeupper. doing the things done by a makeupper: makeuppery. "good job with the makuppery today, doris." "reported."

english is awesome

Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (YyH4g)

342 One month (in a four month season) to let everyone's freak flag fly. Snort.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)


They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (Enq6K)

343 Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm.

Well, it's more than ten miles from his house.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)

344

They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.


Not any more.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)

345 I wish someone would simply ask these NFL idiots EXACTLY WHAT are they protesting by kneeling during the national anthem.

Posted by: Jen the original
________

They're raising awareness of justice issues awareness to as a platform to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter! No Nukes! Tin soldiers and Nixon coming! Where have all the flowers gone? I won't play for Texaco!

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:48 AM (zkGZ8)

346 --Pius XII has been exonerated, at least in my mind.


Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (GsAUU)


That book by Cornwall or Cornwell, or whatever his name is, about how Pius was secretly helping Hitler carry out the holocaust, was complete bullshit.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM (gG2l4)

347 Skandia Recluse, even "bad" reviews can be good E.g. "this book had absolutely NO reference to cultural oppression!" or "Too many guns, too many happy hetero couples." Also, we writers like to get at least some "meh" reviews because that makes the giddy 5-star reviews seem real. It's a bad sign when a book has only "this book cured my cancer!" reviews and NO reviews below 5 star. Pretty distinctive pattern for review scamming.

Anna Puma, I had not heard of the Pen to Publish thing. Usually those contests don't do as well for me as just publishing the damn book myself. I keep all my IP rights in my grubby paws--that way when my first movie comes out I can hold a Moron-only screening!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM (hnzFp)

348 Great War upcoming Centenary event - Operation Albion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Albion

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:50 AM (Ktewm)

349 Not any more.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)


LOL! True...

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:50 AM (Enq6K)

350 They're raising awareness of justice issues awareness to as a platform
to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter!
==


And one day, if they kneel hard enough and long enough, America white voters might even elect a black president.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:51 AM (2wRtc)

351 For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)

Brown county (where Green Bay is located) voted for Trump in the last election and GP is a blue collar town filled with a lot of deplorables who have loved the team passionately since childhood.

Yes, it's infuriating.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 11:51 AM (P8951)

352 The NFL is going to sanction a protest month in November?!

Goodell just took his dick out, put in on the table, and is about to slam the poor little thing.

Recall that this is a league that fines players for Excessive Celebrating in the end zone.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (cAXIk)

353 to try and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed.


******

I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit
better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)
=====

Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, envy is a sin.

I love you, Muldoon.

Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, etc.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (MIKMs)

354 The NFL lawyers telling them they will be sued is absolute BS. The
contract they have between the players and the league specifically
states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners
should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings
disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the
dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being
suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has
proof) never happened.



If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due
to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every
right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a
retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we
thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.
---

Jen-- it's just something I found at 4chan that might or might not be accurate.

However... I can see the players lawyers arguing that their freedom of speech trumps any sort of NFL contract, and/or that the NFL cannot prove that their actions are damaging the league.

I can also see this as the non-white players trying to create racial problems, and, if they were publicly quashed, calling on BLM to destroy things.

Remember, rules and laws do not apply to non-whites, only white republicans, and most especially to white republican Christian men.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (aT+Bx)

355 320: yup, that norman lloyd. was in "st. elsewhere" and is still acting today. how is that possible? he played tennis all his life (became friends with chaplin through tennis and was in "limelight"). stay active, people!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (AxFdW)

356
A La Carte cable channels.

Crush the Beast.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (2wRtc)


Never going to happen. Verizon attempted it, in a limited way, and ESPN was in court the very next day, suing them.

If you're a cable provider, and you want to carry ANY sports, you bend over and let ESPN dictate terms.

Cutting the cable is the only way.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (EgwCt)

357 349 Tami

We'll have to wait to find out.

I guess I view everything through the prism of disastrous historical decisions.

I don't think history teaches ANY lessons per se, NONE.

But, it does kind of suggest that a little caution is a good thing, I think.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (v6Osy)

358 Sabrina Chase, a Moron only screening? Sounds like another Great Vegas Moron Meet is in the offering.

Using the Pen and Publish deadline of November 10th more like I used NaNoWriMo, an incentive to finish up a book of which I have several in a half-state.

But it would be nice to win $22,000 and a book contract from Amazon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (Ktewm)

359 So the Left insists their right to take a knee is protected by freedom of speech. But they'll beat the shit out of any conservative speaker who shows up at Berkley - either that, or force said to speaker to spend a fortune on security....just to protect their right to speak.

Fuck these people. Fuck the double standard. I'm sorry for my cursing. And by the way, I'm a Jags fan. We're up big time, and I can't enjoy this.

Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (c056A)

360 Pittsburgh Steelers are not as a team going to be on the field during National Anthem today (Fox Media Buzz)

Posted by: Skip
________

At least they're doing whatever they're doing as a team.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (zkGZ8)

361 Never going to happen. Verizon attempted it, in a limited way, and ESPN was in court the very next day, suing them.

==

If Ma Bell can be busted up, so can the Cable Monopoly.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (2wRtc)

362 OregonMuse: there was a case to be made that Pius XII Didn't Do Enough; the case was made, and found to be false. I'm glad of the books which made the case so they could be refuted.

But to rehash the arguments now without taking the exonerations into account is bad scholarship. That's why I invoked leyenda negra: it's just antiCatholic bigotry now and publishers should quit indulging it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (6FqZa)

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1 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, September 24, 2017. On this day in 1780 Traitor Benedict Arnold fled to British Army lines when the arrest of British Major John André exposed Arnold's plot to surrender West Point. He knew George Washington would have hanged his sorry ass, unlike today when shitty traitors ARE the commander and chief. He died in London, England and was originally buried at a church there, Later his remains were transferred to a mass grave and dumped due to a "clerical error".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:00 AM (ghofu)

3 Latest on Marie. It is now a cat 3 and still headed north. Still not predicted to hit the US but it looks like NC's Outer Banks will get some wind and rain as it brushes by.


http://tinyurl.com/ybgx2apf

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

4 Of course the Norks have to come back at Trump in the UN and make more threats.


http://tinyurl.com/y9wsxoyh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

5 Washington is sending $1B in federal aid to socialist PR. And PR says they will ask for more. Even leftward tilting Faux admits in this article that PR's infrastructure was already in sorry shape. By all accounts it is a failed territory due someone's idiotic decision to invoke a socialist state to create a permanent free shit army.


All these socialist economies worldwide always prove Frédéric Bastiat's treatise on The Law. We would be better off if PR invoked their will to separate from the US and become their own country. But I fear as long as we have a communist Party and no opposition Party we would continue to send them money.


http://tinyurl.com/y73zb94r

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

6 Its Game day!
But then most of you don't care

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:01 AM (ghofu)

7 The political pope is finally getting some push-back.


More than 60 Roman Catholic theologians, priests and academics have formally accused Pope Francis of spreading heresy after the pontiff opened the door last year to allowing divorced and civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion.


However, I would have rather they attacked him on his meddling in other civil affairs that really have nothing to do with the church.


http://tinyurl.com/y8baz4bh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

8 More indications that the far left in the DNC wants Scankles to just STFU and go away. She has lost Loony Cloony.


http://tinyurl.com/yalmkfvo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

9 Fox still has a few right leaning contributors and reporters. Liz Peak excoriates McShitty on torpedoing another repeal and replace bill.


http://tinyurl.com/yalmkfvo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

10 Self-confessed commie Bernie is no longer content to simply want to totally destroy the US economy. He has now become an Israel bashing Joo hater.


http://tinyurl.com/y78slds6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

11 What has Fairfax come to? It used to be a nice suburb of DC where my grandparents on my Mother's side lived. Now we have yoots brandishing guns and threatening McDonald's workers because their service didn't meet their high and mighty expectations. Look at the picture of the yoot and you will see what has happened to this once nice community.


http://tinyurl.com/y9ypw7ar

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

12 IL woman charged with multiple felonies, including a hate crime, for spray painting a bunch of crap on the Mayor's house. She made the mistake of attacking a politician even if he is a Republican.


http://tinyurl.com/yac4n5yo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez (repeat)


http://tinyurl.com/zerexd5


And that's it for today on this slow news Sunday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 The NFL can kiss my formerly football-lovin' ass.

I'm done.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 24, 2017 06:08 AM (ul9CR)

15 Good Morning
Thanks for the news Vic

Posted by: wing at September 24, 2017 06:08 AM (c9n2T)

16 15
Good Morning

Thanks for the news Vic

Posted by: wing at September 24, 2017 06:08 AM (c9n2T)

Good Morning

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

17 I quit watching the NFL decades ago. Here in Bumfk, SC the only time they showed my team, the Falcons, was when they were playing Charlotte. Before that the only time they showed them were when they were playing Dallas or Washington out of their league.


Those two teams were the ONLY teams that the local stations broadcast. One of my buddies at work actually called the TV station and asked why they carries only teams that were nowhere close to SC and didn't carry Atlanta. Their response was BS.


So I gave up on the NFL then. But my Dawgs slaughtered Mississippi State yesterday 31-3.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:14 AM (mpXpK)

18 Americanthinker
it was the deep state that colluded with the Russians not Trump
http://tinyurl.com/yc5n9jpz

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:17 AM (ghofu)

19 More indications that the far left in the DNC wants Scankles to just STFU and go away. She has lost Loony Cloony.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:01 AM (mpXpK)


I have suspicions that he's looking at running for Prez. But he has a lot of negatives for the Democrats:
white male
heterosexual

His pluses for Democrats?
good-looking
good hair

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 06:20 AM (EgwCt)

20
I forgot to mention under 'His pluses for Democrats':

No experience

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 06:21 AM (EgwCt)

21 Commit an act of love!

Vote for me in 2020!

Posted by: ¡ Jeb ! at September 24, 2017 06:27 AM (sf2BM)

22 I can't run in 2020. I don't have anymore foreign nationalities to renounce.

Posted by: Senator Rafael Theodore "Tim Horton" Cruz at September 24, 2017 06:30 AM (sf2BM)

23 What area of the culture wars has Trump not won? He manages (baits, gooses, pokes) to get them to act like fools and then wins. Examples are Dreamers, news media, Democrats, GOPe, etc. ESPN showed him what needed to be done. He is also getting his adversaries to chase rabbits while he is doing other stuff. He spends like 2-3 minutes a day to get them frothing at the mouth 24-7.

Posted by: Lester at September 24, 2017 06:31 AM (LfJIn)

24 Morning all

Fuck the Left and Fuck the NBA/NFL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:33 AM (/yyMv)

25 Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:17 AM (ghofu)

Skip
Everybody should read that article and the comments.

Thank you Vic!

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 24, 2017 06:33 AM (9Ej78)

26 So far there hasn't been any outbursts by any Philadelphia Eagles,
( fingers crossed)

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:36 AM (ghofu)

27 Trump still has a LOT of swamp to drain. But I recognize that Augean Stables in DC did not get full of horse shit in one day so it will take a while to clean it out. And he has to do it with a ten ton ball chained to his ankles by the RNCe, who are part of the swamp.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

28 So far there hasn't been any outbursts by any Philadelphia Eagles,
( fingers crossed)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:36 AM (ghofu)

There will be all over the NFL today- mostly along racial lines I suspect. And I hope the fans throw shit at those ignorant slobs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:39 AM (/yyMv)

29 So far there hasn't been any outbursts by any Philadelphia Eagles,
( fingers crossed)

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 06:36 AM (ghofu)


Yeah. Fingers crossed is right.

Mumia *spit* might have something to do with that.
Because you know that card is coming out of the deck the moment any shit starts.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 06:41 AM (EgwCt)

30 Well it has spread to MLB...some cock sucker catcher for the Oaland As knelt. Ah fuck it, I'll root for the local badminton team.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:42 AM (/yyMv)

31 Its Game day!
But then most of you don't care
Posted by: Skip


It's Gay day!
Every day is Gay day.

Posted by: Shep Smith at September 24, 2017 06:45 AM (BUakI)

32 I'd rather watch a good goat ropin'.

Hey Burnie, How's the wife's lawsuit coming?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2017 06:46 AM (hoY5O)

33 "I'll root for the local badminton team. "

Once I quit drinking, sports became a lot less important in my life. I think I have checked the MLB standings twice this whole year.

If every single professional or college sports team just up and disappeared, no love lost.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 06:47 AM (sf2BM)

34 27 Trump still has a LOT of swamp to drain. But I recognize that Augean
Stables in DC did not get full of horse shit in one day so it will take a
while to clean it out.


Vic, Gorka gave a speech in DC to a meeting sponsored by Hillsdale College last week, and touched on this very point. It's an interesting read (or listen):

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8zb4bvs

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 24, 2017 06:50 AM (0ogQG)

35 If every single professional or college sports team just up and disappeared, no love lost.
Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 06:47 AM (sf2BM)

I am starting to feel the same way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:51 AM (/yyMv)

36 Good Morning.

I was glancing at some college games yesterday, and along with all the scrolls of all the games being played, they now break in with the sponsored highlite of some other game being played during a break in the action. Even if the break is the teams huddling up again.

So, I'm mostly watching with the sound off

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 06:51 AM (8ikIW)

37 If every single professional or college sports team just up and disappeared, no love lost.
Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 06:47 AM (sf2BM)

I am starting to feel the same way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:51 AM (/yyMv)

But then I'd have to talk to the wife more?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:52 AM (/yyMv)

38 Reading that link from GnuBreed and I already hit something I really like:


Who likes the movie Red Dawn, the original one? Great movie, OK? Those of you who have not seen it, watch it. Not the remake; the original.


Love it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:56 AM (mpXpK)

39 But then I'd have to talk to the wife more?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 06:52 AM (/yyMv)

Tough trade off. You could read a book. Just make sure that you have a "Advances in Modern Dentistry"
dust jacket over what you are reading.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 06:57 AM (sf2BM)

40

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 24, 2017 06:58 AM (iDE0Y)

41 Pointless since I don't watch TV but I'd watch Sumo matches and Rugby.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2017 07:00 AM (hoY5O)

42 Tough trade off. You could read a book. Just make sure that you have a "Advances in Modern Dentistry"
dust jacket over what you are reading.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 06:57 AM (sf2BM)

LOL, then my wife would know something is up!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 07:03 AM (/yyMv)

43 11: Chantilly, Va is full of Trump voters man. I mean, just look at that guy! He's whiter than me!!

There is a reason I call my current homestead the Peoples Republic of Fairfax County!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 07:05 AM (rZKP0)

44 https://youtu.be/COI2fA7LEdE

Vid of some jihadis biting the dust that was posted at Zip's the other day.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 07:06 AM (sf2BM)

45 LOL, then my wife would know something is up!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 07:03 AM (/yyMv)

I'm all out of ideas.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 07:07 AM (sf2BM)

46 LOL, then my wife would know something is up!
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Cover your something with the book...or a towel

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:07 AM (8ikIW)

47 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:08 AM (EyPfd)

48
~senses an opportunity~

Well,, since you all won't be wasting your time watching the fools-ball, you can come out and see me,, live!

TICKETS1!!!1!!!!

GIT 'YER TICKETS HERE!!!!!!!

TICKETS!!!!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 24, 2017 07:09 AM (iDE0Y)

49 So it dawned on my, this argument from the Left about Trump vs Lil' Kim is amazingly stupid.

In essence, they think the guy calling names is nuts.

But...the guy who is so triggered by being called a bad name that he attacks another nation with a nuclear weapon is totes cool.

F'n liberals.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:11 AM (EyPfd)

50 12- That sure doesn't look like a woman.

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 07:12 AM (bfUpy)

51
His pluses for Democrats?
good-looking
good hair
________________

Married to a muzzie/Druze lawyer . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 24, 2017 07:13 AM (BXf9o)

52
So I gave up on the NFL then. But my Dawgs slaughtered Mississippi State yesterday 31-3.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:14 AM (mpXpK)

Getting better and better every week.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 07:14 AM (XFue2)

53 Oh goody

Looks like MLB has caught the kneeling disease

http://cbsloc.al/2xxkpVe

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:15 AM (EyPfd)

54 So it dawned on my, this argument from the Left about Trump vs Lil' Kim is amazingly stupid.
In essence, they think the guy calling names is nuts.
But...the guy who is so triggered by being called a bad name that he attacks another nation with a nuclear weapon is totes cool.
F'n liberals.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:11 AM (EyPfd)


Tim Tebow, taking a knee in prayer... amazingly stupid.
Colon CaperNick taking a knee during the National Anthem... brave.
F'n liberals is right.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 07:16 AM (EgwCt)

55 PDT is on a twitter roll against NFL protests.

Now the libs will do more NFL protests.

Then we get more PDT since so many americans love america. And football.

Posted by: SpecialEd at September 24, 2017 07:17 AM (mEjFi)

56 Great speech and article

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 07:20 AM (mpXpK)

57 Every once in a while I gotta give a shout out to someone who has said he's always lurking.

Mornin' Nam Grunt!
Hope the day finds you well and you have some great grillin' weather.

Posted by: teej at September 24, 2017 07:20 AM (+LXO6)

58 I'm a huge football fan, but I've had it. As millionaires in 21st century America, these assholes are literally among the most privileged, pampered and fortunate people in the history of human existence.

Millions of these idiots spend a ton of energy and money to signal that are "a thug". which is glorified in hip hop, then act outraged when people treat them like thugs.

Posted by: Bilwis, suddenly not a finicky eater at September 24, 2017 07:20 AM (tMFgx)

59 So, Buffalo Bills and Sabres owner Terry "Worst Owner in Team Pro Sports Bar None" Pegula wants to take shots at my President.

Let's have a look at Peloser's stellar record, shall we?

Buffalo Sabres - owned 6 seasons - record 133-196-47
Playoff appearances - ZERO

Buffalo Bills - owned 3+ seasons - record 25-26
Playoff appearances ZERO

2 pro sports teams. 9 seasons combined total (and counting). Cellar-dwellers in both sports. Zero playoff appearances.

Erie county went Dem in '16 as always because Buffalo. But step over the county line in any direction (where the people who actually buy tickets to games live) and what happens? For one example, Trump won Niagara County by TWENTY FVCKING POINTS.

So, by all means keep providing a SHIT product and alienating a huge portion of your fanbase, Peloser. Your utter inability to put anything resembling a winning team on the ice or field makes you the worst owner in pro team sports, bar none, by a mile, no competition. You suck, bigly.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 24, 2017 07:20 AM (ul9CR)

60 President Trump doubles down.


@realDonaldTrump
Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won't be around much longer!

Now it's "little rocket man"



Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 07:20 AM (sf2BM)

61
Married to a muzzie/Druze lawyer . . . .
Posted by: TrivialPursuer
_______________

I've got one of those too....

TICKETS1!!!1!!!! GIT 'YER TICKETS HERE!!!!!!! TICKETS!!!!! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 24, 2017 07:21 AM (iDE0Y)

62 Roger the Dodger said that President Trump does not understand the "force for good" that the NFL is in the "community".

I thought they were supposed to play football and entertain people.

Like that stupid Navy slogan, "A Global Force for Good". Pure BS and marxisim 101.
I thought they were supposed to keep the sea lanes open and kill those who got in their way.

I hope a lot of people protest the "protesters" and walk out or at least throw things on the field.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 07:23 AM (5VlCp)

63 "Every once in a while I gotta give a shout out to someone who has said he's always lurking. "

Seconded.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:24 AM (EyPfd)

64
Major League Football is finished. The lawyers are gonna pick the carcass clean off the bone with the brain injury lawsuits.

It doesn't matter that Keith Hernadez got dropped on his head repeatedly as a child. They're gonna get a judge and jury in the right location and kill the NFL.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 07:24 AM (EgwCt)

65 Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 07:16 AM (EgwCt)

Brilliant!

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 24, 2017 07:25 AM (9Ej78)

66 Just because the NFL has turned itself into a flaming pile of tired doesn't mean we have to suffer.

Here's an elbow from Omsk (there's another one somewhere) to help you get pumped for Avangard's hockey game against Dinamo Moscow:

http://tinyurl.com/ya33ghff

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 07:25 AM (zkGZ8)

67 Roger the Dodger said that President Trump does not understand the "force for good" that the NFL is in the "community".

I thought they were supposed to play football and entertain people.


If, per the masses scale of you owe me, they are not doing all they can for the community, can we then tax them at a higher rate?

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:25 AM (8ikIW)

68 Thanks VIA.
I miss that man.

Posted by: teej at September 24, 2017 07:25 AM (+LXO6)

69 With the A's in the cellar, it's amazing anyone noticed.

Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 07:26 AM (UnDQI)

70 Oh goody, B'More is doing what it does.

Four dead, two wounded over the weekend.

(This was as of Saturday night, and we traditionally include Sunday in the weekend)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:26 AM (EyPfd)

71 I just can't get worked up over all this outragey outrage by the NFL/NBA/MSESPN/whoever else. Stand, sit, raise a fist, declare all your enemies a [insert slander here]. Go ahead and "raise awareness" and social justice blah blah blah.

You. Will. NOT. Make. Me. Care.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 07:27 AM (rZKP0)

72 More cheer power from Omsk. Go, Red Hawks!

http://tinyurl.com/y9bntcut

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 07:27 AM (zkGZ8)

73 "Thanks VIA.
I miss that man."

Good guy.
He has been around since, like forever.
And I always enjoy seeing him pop up, and comment.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:28 AM (EyPfd)

74 I'm looking forward to Rollerball replacing football and baseball.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:28 AM (UdKB7)

75 So I may need to watch the Ravens play today i England.

But it's an OTA antenna.
So it doesn't count for the numbers, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:29 AM (EyPfd)

76 I thought Buffalo was going to move to Toronto and call themselves "The Toronto Trannies."

Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 07:30 AM (UnDQI)

77 In case your loyalties are with Dinamo Moscow:

https://photo.khl.ru/items/id1470017

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 07:30 AM (zkGZ8)

78 Only one killed but 22 wounded for the Windy City. We're falling so far behind last years pace.

Sad........

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 07:31 AM (sf2BM)

79 " I'm looking forward to Rollerball replacing football and baseball. "

At some point, I expect to see Running Man emerge as the new sport for the masses.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:31 AM (EyPfd)

80 Good Morning, Vic.

I've been boycotting football my entire life. I always thought it was stupid, a bunch of grown men running around in their all-togethers after a little ball. And it wasn't even a real ball.

Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 07:31 AM (SQu63)

81 Our 12 year old washing machine died yesterday. I've already fixed it twice over the years. The crap they make nowadays doesn't last. My parents' washer and dryer set is over 30

Our 5 year old weedeater died yesterday too but I revived it enough to maybe get another year. Cheap Chinese junk.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:32 AM (UdKB7)

82 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2017 07:32 AM (KCxzN)

83 But it's an OTA antenna.
So it doesn't count for the numbers, right?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Bob from the NSA says it does. And bring him a beer at the start of the game.

Nothing lite.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:33 AM (8ikIW)

84 And that's it for today on this slow news Sunday.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 06:03

Thanks for the news Vic, always appreciated.

So what's been going on here? I've benn stuck in Vegas w/ a buncha Morons for several days so I've missed out on AOS.

Tho I might say that has not been an entirely unpleasant experience. Such great folks I've met. It is now 4:30 here and I have to get up for my flight out at 5:15, so I'm thinking WTF.

Can I pass for sober enough to get on the plane? I'm gonna give it a try. One more beer and here we go.

Now I need you folks to keep me awake and entertained, this is now your duty. Please follow thru w/ such duty.

Posted by: Farmer at September 24, 2017 07:33 AM (fXlrW)

85 30 ... "Well it has spread to MLB...some cock sucker catcher for the Oaland As knelt. Ah fuck it, I'll root for the local badminton team."

Yeah, and management for the team came out in support. Wonder if they would do the same if Oakland wasn't in the cellar of the AL West. Maybe this shit will stay in California. (Right, sure!)

I do not want to give up baseball. I genuinely enjoy listening to the games. But I quit paying attention to the NBA and NFL because of the changes to the game, the never-ending political comments, and the stupid, thuggish behavior of the player backed up by spineless management. Those leagues did something I wouldn't have believed possible: They made me completely indifferent to the sport. If MLB does the same thing, it just means I'll spend more time reloading, tying flies, and reading.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 07:34 AM (V+03K)

86 "Only one killed but 22 wounded for the Windy City. We're falling so far behind last years pace. "

This is the seldom mentioned, but huge difference between Chicago and Baltimore.

Chicago has crazy good survival rates for their street shootings. Somewhere on the order of 83% chance of surviving.

Now just this weekend in B'More, only six people were shot. But four of the six are dead.

And this is with the world recognized Shock Trauma Center here in town.
One of the best trauma centers in the entire world.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:34 AM (EyPfd)

87 'At some point, I expect to see Running Man emerge as the new sport for the masses.'

Now that I would watch. I would watch baseball too, if they let the batters take the bat with them when they run the bases.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:34 AM (UdKB7)

88 Sorry to say, two of the four players who are reqesting a month long acknowledgement of racism/sjw stuff (similar to breast cancer awareness month) are Philadelphia Eagles.

Posted by: RM at September 24, 2017 07:36 AM (+Nq+n)

89 'if they let the batters take the bat with them when they run the bases.'


It would change the meaning of "player takes a knee".

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:37 AM (UdKB7)

90
Our 12 year old washing machine died yesterday. I've already fixed it twice over the years. The crap they make nowadays doesn't last. My parents' washer and dryer set is over 30
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:32 AM (UdKB7)


I feel sorry for anyone who has to buy a new washing machine. The fvcking EPA and their water usage restrictions have turned washing machines into a total time sink. Before you could run an entire load in about 15 minutes. Now it takes 30 to 45 minutes.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 07:38 AM (EgwCt)

91
Now I need you folks to keep me awake and entertained, this is now your duty. Please follow thru w/ such duty.
Posted by: Farmer
______________________

Rock a bye baby in the tree top,
when the wind blows the cradle will rock,

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 24, 2017 07:39 AM (iDE0Y)

92 Trump! is awake and pissed.

NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:39 AM (8ikIW)

93 New term..

Players Of Pallor.


Pass it on....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:40 AM (EyPfd)

94 Everytime I see "Awareness" in regards to race, I know it just means "Shut up, sit down, and let us regale you of tales of all that is awful with wretched Whiteness."

So yea, NFL, knock yourselves out. Awareness Month. Sounds like a winner!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 07:41 AM (rZKP0)

95 "NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN"

Odd...I wonder what may be causing that?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:41 AM (EyPfd)

96 Maybe some players should take a knee until Obama or at the least Shillary are convicted.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:41 AM (8ikIW)

97 The trifecta: cheerleaders, guns, and the flag.

http://tinyurl.com/yafqbpl3

OK, it's not my country's flag, but I appreciate patriotism wherever it is. And they're guns that shoot t-shirts. Whatever. It's better than what the NFL is offering.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 07:42 AM (zkGZ8)

98 NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S.


The best thing about Trump's enemies are that they have no idea they are being played. Its funny. And a little scary.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 07:42 AM (rZKP0)

99 I remember when the troops stormed Normandy. Many took a knee. Hell, some of them were so pissed off the laid down.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:44 AM (8ikIW)

100 99: a few of them raise there fists and chanted slogans.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 07:45 AM (rZKP0)

101 Want a really good Baltimore story?

A great friend's (read that as brother) wife and son were in Baltimore when the Royals were there in the 2015 playoffs. Managed to get tickets (of course they did) to a game.

They got to talking (again, of course they did) with a Baltimore fan and I think his family.

The Royals won the game and he told them if the Royals make it to the series, they were going to a game.

Well, as we all know, the boys got there and they indeed got a call from the man.
Tickets are waiting for you at Kaufman Stadium.

Posted by: teej at September 24, 2017 07:45 AM (+LXO6)

102 Saw some numbers over at Instapundit; nfl audience is down ten percent - out of twenty two million. That means twenty million are still watching.

It also means the nfl wall ramp up advertising, trying to attract more viewers. Advertising - like political ads, like from the Ad Council. Non stop - never ending advertising managed by Sonobi to maximize your ad placement dollars. Like Google adwords, getting your ads in front of people who will respond favorably to your advertising pitch.

Ads. More Ads. That is what this country needs. More sports ads, ESPN ads, ads, ads, ads, ads. More advertising and less content, for your viewing pleasure.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 07:47 AM (m9X4Y)

103 On the plus side, I scored a nice used router and router table off the inter webs.

Now I just need to clean them up, and put them to use.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:47 AM (EyPfd)

104 NFL mainly exists to provide data for Fantasy Leagues. Bezos can have Alexa do that cheaper with no controversy.

Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2017 07:49 AM (jHrzU)

105 On the plus side, I scored a nice used router and router table off the inter webs.

Now I just need to clean them up, and put them to use.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

HA! I was thinking wifi router. I had to look up what a router table was. A special table to put a wifi router on? VIA's got way too much money.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:50 AM (8ikIW)

106 I feel sorry for anyone who has to buy a new washing machine. The fvcking EPA and their water usage restrictions have turned washing machines into a total time sink. Before you could run an entire load in about 15 minutes. Now it takes 30 to 45 minutes.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 07:38 AM (EgwCt)

Truth. We bought a new washer and dryer last year and it takes a freaking HOUR to do one load of wash.


Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 07:50 AM (SQu63)

107 "VIA's got way too much money."

Haa haa haaa....



Mrs VIA's wedding vow:

What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:52 AM (EyPfd)

108 103 On the plus side, I scored a nice used router and router table off the inter webs.

Now I just need to clean them up, and put them to use.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:47 AM (EyPfd)

Mr. H has been collecting tools recently, in preparation for his retirement. He is slowly filling the basement.

He likes to refinish furniture that we find in flea markets. It's a fun hobby.

Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 07:52 AM (SQu63)

109 I just told my NFL team of 47 years to get bent.

When the left disrespects the country and shits on foundational values: free speech.

When we call them on it, it's "divisive."

You can't appease the left, so don't even try.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 07:54 AM (F0ZHr)

110 Mrs VIA's wedding vow:

What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:52 AM (EyPfd)

This is my philosophy, too.

Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 07:54 AM (SQu63)

111 "He likes to refinish furniture that we find in flea markets. It's a fun hobby."

I think that is something I could enjoy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:54 AM (EyPfd)

112 NFL mainly exists to provide data for Fantasy Leagues.

Posted by: blaster
________

I respectfully disagree. The purpose of the NFL is to provide images for video game graphics.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 07:55 AM (zkGZ8)

113 81
Our 12 year old washing machine died yesterday. I've already fixed it
twice over the years. The crap they make nowadays doesn't last. My
parents' washer and dryer set is over 30



Our 5 year old weedeater died yesterday too but I revived it enough to maybe get another year. Cheap Chinese junk.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:32 AM (UdKB7)


I did a lot of research on appliances like washers, dryers, and refers a few years ago when I had to replace my old washing machine. None of them are WAS anymore. So I buy the cheapest thing I can find at Lowes when one craps out. They have become throw-away items. My wife did not do that when she went down and got the new Refer. She thought that a Samsung would be good. We already knew that the Sear refers that used to be bullet proof were crap now. Well after multiple warranty visits by their contract repair man they replaced it with another one. The it kept crapping out too. They then replaced that one with a different one without all the geegaws on it. No ice dispenser and water tap on the front. That one appears to be working now.


Meanwhile the old Sear we had and gave to my neighbor is working fine except for the broken water dispenser, and my VERY old Sear that I bought when we first moved in and is now out in the pool shed where i used to keep beer is still working and it is over 30 years old.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 07:55 AM (mpXpK)

114 It all started with that damn pink ribbon.

You don't want to wear the ribbon? Why don't you want to wear the ribbon?

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 07:56 AM (5VlCp)

115 I think I have it figures out



[ ] All your money

[ ] Happy spouse

[ ] Happy life


Pick any two.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:57 AM (EyPfd)

116 If anyone is interested the NYT will tell you "How to Survive the Apocalypse". A couple of things you will need in your messenger bag is a "nasty looking knife" and condoms.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 07:59 AM (UdKB7)

117 Great day of college football yesterday. Need coffee to face the morning when the night ended less than 5 hours ago. Going to investigate Black Rifle. I love these people.

Posted by: Locke Common at September 24, 2017 08:00 AM (3acku)

118 Time to get ready for Sunday School.

I am going to say a prayer our President. May he have a great eight years.

Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 08:00 AM (SQu63)

119 A couple of things you will need in your messenger bag is a "nasty looking knife" and condoms.

Is that the kind with the thing that sticks up in the back?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 08:00 AM (F0ZHr)

120 Posted by: Farmer
______________________
Rock a bye baby in the tree top,
when the wind blows the cradle will rock,
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 24, 2017 07:39

Damn it! I didn't mean you Hills, you the last person I want hear from.

But i'll bet your ears were burning from the roasting you got tonight. LOL

Posted by: Farmer at September 24, 2017 08:02 AM (fXlrW)

121 Repost from yesterday.
Read the comments.

I hope it works

http://tinyurl.com/y7ynrkje

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:04 AM (EyPfd)

122 'VERY old Sear that I bought when we first moved in and is now out in the pool shed where i used to keep beer is still working and it is over 30 years old.'

The fridge we had when we got married 20 years ago was given to us by my parents and it was probably about 20 then. We used it for about 10 years and then it went to the garage and continued to work until we gave it away a few years later. It was solid. The shit they make nowadays is designed to break after 10 years.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 08:04 AM (UdKB7)

123 The Let, The RINOs, The NFL, the NBA, The MSM still don't get why PDT won. It really is amazing and they keep digging. I think this is great for our side...Out side may not show it since we tend to have jobs, families, responbilities and other such things, but I think think it will be felt in the coming Elections. There are plenty of people who feel like we do. They might not as loud and obnoxious as us, but they know. They know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 08:04 AM (/yyMv)

124 Time to get ready for Sunday School.

I am going to say a prayer our President. May he have a great eight years.

Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 08:00 AM (SQu63)

Amen. And pray for an heathen like me!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 08:05 AM (/yyMv)

125 "The shit they make nowadays is designed to break after 10 years."

Mrs VIA's late Great Aunt's house still has the operating refrigerator in the kitchen.

Date of manufacture?
June 1945.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:06 AM (EyPfd)

126 I was looking at the package of diced ham I am about to include in the scrambled eggs and am pleased to report that it is gluten free

We live in stupid times.

Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2017 08:06 AM (jHrzU)

127 Sports: Work hard, prepare and practice, function as a team, respect the rules, play to win, and remember that it's only a game.

John Madden: Frenchy Fuqua touched the ball which hit the ground before Franco Harris caught it, Rob Lytle fumbled, it's the officials' fault every time my team doesn't win.

In the end, John Madden came out on top, didn't he? Successful coach, ultra-successful commentator (where he whined a lot about his losses to the Steelers and the Broncos) and the
payday that comes with having his name attached to a video game.

These are the values that the NFL has taught, and they go back way before Colin Kaeperenick. And we wonder why Al Gore, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton get so much traction when they spew horsecrap after they lose.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 08:06 AM (zkGZ8)

128 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2017 08:07 AM (hyuyC)

129 "We live in stupid times."


Sometimes, when in Trader Joe's, I will ask for the Non-GMO aluminum foil.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:07 AM (EyPfd)

130 Truth. We bought a new washer and dryer last year and it takes a freaking HOUR to do one load of wash.
Posted by: ALH at September 24, 2017 07:50

Last time our dryer conked out the repairman from the ompany that SELLS new appliance just told us to keep getting it fixed, they will never make them like they used too.

Posted by: Farmer at September 24, 2017 08:08 AM (fXlrW)

131 'Good morning! '

Look who just rolled out of the rack.

G'morning Salty.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:08 AM (EyPfd)

132 Does this bacon look gluteny to you?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 08:10 AM (F0ZHr)

133 "Well it has spread to MLB...some cock sucker catcher for the Oaland As knelt. Ah fuck it, I'll root for the local badminton team."

Yeah, and management for the team came out in support. Wonder if they would do the same if Oakland wasn't in the cellar of the AL West. Maybe this shit will stay in California. (Right, sure!)



A nobody rookie on a last place time with a week to go in the season on team that's lucky to have a thousand or so people to show up to watch. Way to fade further into oblivion

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:11 AM (auHtY)

134 I've started to think this "unmasking" idea is just another part of the false narrative.

"Unmasking" presumes that the surveillance of Trump and his associates was incidental to intelligence-gathering efforts targeted on other persons, as authorized by the FISA court. Trump and his associates were then "unmasked" at the request of Obama's minions.

It's much more logical and simple to presume that Trump and his associates were indeed the target of those efforts.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2017 08:11 AM (EZebt)

135 UNC men's basketball team won't visit White House

The University of North Carolina's championship-winning men's basketball team won't make the customary visit to the White House, a team spokesman said Saturday.



Well that will give them more time to study to get the good grades, I'm sure they work so hard for

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:13 AM (auHtY)

136 I'm betting that between my BILs hate for Trump and his love of the Chicago Bears, his head will literally explode today about 3 PM CDST

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

137 PDJT declared today Gold Star mothers and Family day. Let's see the Nfl players take a knee on this day!

Posted by: dailydish at September 24, 2017 08:15 AM (g5vXL)

138
I read some of the NFL owners (Miami Dolphins, Fudge Packers) owners came out in support of the players. And Jim Harbaugh shot off his stupid mouth too. Let the left and only the left support sports teams if that's the way they want it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:16 AM (auHtY)

139 All we need now is for Target to sponsor an NFL team.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:19 AM (EyPfd)

140 I read some of the NFL owners (Miami Dolphins, Fudge Packers) owners came out in support of the players.
==============================



The Green Bay Packers do not have an owner.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 24, 2017 08:20 AM (lwiT4)

141 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top of the morning to ya.

Saw your note upthread that Baltimore thugs are either better shots or use a larger caliber bullet vice the Chicago thugs. So you've got that as a point of pride.

Johns Hopkins has some good doctors. My mom had wound surgery there last month, and did well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2017 08:21 AM (hyuyC)

142 The Green Bay Packers do not have an owner.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 24, 2017 08:20 AM (lwiT4)


My mistake, Packers president Mark Murphy.

It's unfortunate that the President decided to use his immense platform to make divisive and offensive statements about our players and the NFL. We strongly believe that players are leaders in our communities and positive influences. They have achieved their positions through tremendous work and dedication and should be celebrated for their success and positive impact. We believe it is important to support any of our players

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:22 AM (auHtY)

143 62,
"Roger the Dodger said that President Trump does not understand the "force for good" that the NFL is in the "community"."


For me the public use of "the community" is almost always a tell that the whole of whatever they are saying is designed to advance something the left wants.

Posted by: geoffb at September 24, 2017 08:22 AM (zOpu5)

144 Mrs VIA's late Great Aunt's house still has the operating refrigerator in the kitchen.

Date of manufacture?
June 1945.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
---
I'm surprised you can still find replacement vacuum tubes for it.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 24, 2017 08:22 AM (tr2D7)

145 "Johns Hopkins has some good doctors. My mom had wound surgery there last month, and did well."

Glad to hear that your mothers outcome was good.

Timon's son had his brain surgery there the other week as well.
And last I heard, he was doing well on recovery too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:24 AM (EyPfd)

146
http://tinyurl.com/y7ynrkje
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:04 AM (EyPfd)

===

I'm not on twitter, but will seriously reconsider after the laughs I got from those comments. That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2017 08:24 AM (EZebt)

147
Philadelphia Eagles Owner Jeff Lurie:
“Every day I see the genuine dedication and hard work of our players. And I support them as they take their courage, character and commitment into our communities to make them better or to call attention to injustice. Having spoken with our players, I can attest to the great respect they have for the national anthem and all it represents. We at the Philadelphia Eagles firmly believe that in this difficult time of division and conflict, it is more important than ever for football to be a great unifier.”

Threading the needle pretty carefully.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 08:25 AM (EgwCt)

148 I watched the OU - Baylor game with my wife last night. Pretty good game. But the coverage and especially the commercials sucked.

KSU plays Baylor next. Coach Snyder is working the team. Will KSU be ready in time?

The team lost to Vandy two weeks ago. Coach Snyder "That is not a failure unless we fail to learn from our mistakes."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2017 08:26 AM (hyuyC)

149 "I'm surprised you can still find replacement vacuum tubes for it."


Heh!!

Actually, the chrome plated pot metal handle finally failed at the pivot pin hole.

Had to have another one cast from a mold of the original.

That was a little chunk of change to do that one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:26 AM (EyPfd)

150 I wish to heaven that people would get this vehemently worked up about bowing a knee to the Lord as they do about taking a knee at a football game. No wonder we're in this mess. When people start being very very concerned about showing deference to the Lord our God, Maker of heaven and earth, then maybe I'll get worked up about showing deference to a song.


/rant off


Posted by: grammie winger at September 24, 2017 08:27 AM (lwiT4)

151 'And I support them as they take their courage, character and commitment into our communities to make them better or to call attention to injustice. '


Courage? I suppose it might take some courage to go into some of those "communities", especially at night.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 08:29 AM (UdKB7)

152 Somebody ask that douche running the NFL if players can refuse to wear all that pink shit to scam money for Komen.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 08:30 AM (oVJmc)

153 ''And I support them as they take their courage, character and commitment into our communities to make them better or to call attention to injustice. '

That word...I don't believe it means what you think it means.

F'n dullards.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:30 AM (EyPfd)

154 Somebody ask that douche running the NFL if players can refuse to wear all that pink shit to scam money for Komen.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Can you imagine the outrage?

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 08:31 AM (8ikIW)

155 Sports is entertainment, like movies, books, TV etc. If it doesn't entertain than it is without value.

For the left this is seen as a win-win situation. Either these "entertainment" enterprises continue as left propaganda efforts, win #1, or the die and cultural institutions which promoted ideas, principles, values that were in opposition to those of the left die off, win #2.

Or as Iowahawk put it.

http://tinyurl.com/yap558qw

Posted by: geoffb at September 24, 2017 08:32 AM (zOpu5)

156 Re why Chicago shooting victims are far more likely to survive than Baltimore shooting victims: perhaps it's because Chicago shootings are more random and primarily intended to intimidate (not kill) their victims, whereas Baltimore shooters target particular people and shoot to kill? IOW a difference in gang warfare tactics?

Posted by: Secret Square at September 24, 2017 08:32 AM (9WuX0)

157 I don't have a f*** to give about the NFl. Stopped watching millionaire athletes that live in distant cities many years ago. I sort of cared that football is under attack for being so dangerous but that comes s from a leftist culture they are now in bed with. Let Them Burn.

Posted by: Ripley at September 24, 2017 08:32 AM (NbRJx)

158 Somebody ask that douche running the NFL if players can refuse to wear all that pink shit to scam money for Komen.

That's when my support of the NFL started to fade. Especially after I found out Komen gives $ to planned parenthood. Next was that guy dragging his gf out of the elevator. This kneeling crap was the last straw. I have gotten rid of all football crap I have.

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 08:33 AM (bfUpy)

159 " IOW a difference in gang warfare tactics?"

Been sort of advocating that same thought for some time.

Chicago shootings strike me more as driven by sudden passion.

Baltimore?
Murder is a business.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:34 AM (EyPfd)

160 In small towns in Kansas the HS football games are a uniting force. It's heartwarming to see entire families supporting the team and the players, the small kids playing under watchful eyes, but not supervised. It's a good time, and except for a few, not too serious.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2017 08:35 AM (hyuyC)

161 It's odd to me that these owners are less about protecting their bottom line and more about sucking SJW penis.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 08:35 AM (g+Dix)

162 and more about sucking SJW penis.
Posted by: kallisto

Okay...but just the tip

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 08:36 AM (8ikIW)

163 I remember all those feels good stories the NFL Today back on CBS or what not used to do about some big old broodmare raising 18 chirruns all on hers own and little Jamaal becoming the football hero to buy his momma a house. So heart warming!

They never did get around to telling us what or where the sperm donor or donors made off to.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 08:38 AM (5VlCp)

164 Somebody ask that douche running the NFL if players can refuse to wear all that pink shit to scam money for Komen.




Yes, then let's see how brave and courageous the players are and how much support they get from the twats running the league

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:38 AM (auHtY)

165 "and more about sucking SJW penis."

Just once...to prove you're committed to the cause.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:39 AM (EyPfd)

166 Somebody ask that douche running the NFL if players can refuse to wear all that pink shit to scam money for Komen.


Or even some of those god-awful color throwback uniforms

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 08:39 AM (8ikIW)

167 I went to the Baltimore Book Festival yesterday and managed to avoid almost all of the SJW bullshite. There was plenty of it around though. Found a new series for my son to read and had his copies signed by the author, got a cool coffee cup, and generally had a nice day just enjoying the weather.

Posted by: no good deed at September 24, 2017 08:41 AM (eIQHF)

168 158 oh yes until the elevator incident NFL habitually covered up/ignored rampant domestic abuse within the ranks. There are so many levels to peel off this hypocrisy onim.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 08:41 AM (g+Dix)

169 58 I'm a huge football fan, but I've had it. As millionaires in 21st century America, these assholes are literally among the most privileged, pampered and fortunate people in the history of human existence.

Millions of these idiots spend a ton of energy and money to signal that are "a thug". which is glorified in hip hop, then act outraged when people treat them like thugs.
____________

What also annoys me is that they never bother to learn any actual facts about the so-called "injustices" they protest. They simply repeat the media/SJW's talking points, which are almost always wildly incorrect.

How many of those dummies did we see holding up their hands after Ferguson -- even though Mike Brown never held up his hands, and was shot because he had punched and tried to take the gun away from a cop whom he had then circled back around and charged at, despite being warned to stop? The whole "hands up, don't shoot" BS started after Mike Brown's little thug accessory (to the convenience story robbery) told a bunch of t.v. reporters that Brown had been standing with his hands up when he was shot. Both the autopsy and multiple witness reports flatly contradicted the little thug's story before he admitted he had made it up, but that didn't stop the "racial injustice" protesters in the NFL from running in front of the cameras with their hands up, to protest the "injustice" of Brown's shooting.

Same deal with Trayvon Martin, the "innocent little black boy who was skipping home from the candy store with Skittles in his pocket when he was shot in the back by a racist white cop because he was wearing a hoodie." Martin was a 17-year old thug who'd been expelled from school (and had been burglarizing houses in the Miami area) and thrown out of his house by his mother (the same woman who has been on the lecture circuit raking in cash off her son's death), when he went on a drug run to the local 7-11 so he could buy cigars to make blunts. As he was returning to his baby-daddy's girlfriend's house, where he was staying after his mother threw him out, he saw a light-skinned man watching him suspiciously in the neighborhood and he became enraged. He approached the man in the dark and sucker punched him in the face, then jumped on him and straddled him on the ground, beating him viciously as he screamed for help. Unfortunately for Martin, his victim was armed, and he shot him dead. The shooter was not a cop, and Martin was shot in the chest, not the back, but that hasn't stop the race-baiters (including those in the NFL) from trying to canonize Martin as a latter-day saint, based on myths about his death.

And look at this latest "injustice" from St. Louis. They're protesting a 2011 shooting in which a thug black drug dealer with a long rap sheet was observed by two cops dealing drugs in the parking lot of a Church's Fried Chicken. The cops pulled their marked car up behind Smith's (the dealer) car and got out to speak to Smith. He ran, jumped into his car, and twice violently rammed the cops' car. The cops drew their guns and ordered him to stop. He drove past them, hitting one cop's arm with his car on his way out of the parking lot. The cops got in their car and chased Smith, at speeds over 85 m.p.h. over wet roads, until he turned the wrong way into oncoming traffic and they were able to stop his vehicle. They got out and approached his car, ordering Smith to show his hands. Bystanders said both cops then jumped back from the car, as if they were startled by something they saw. The cops said they saw Smith reaching around for his gun (which the cops had seen in his car in the Church's parking lot). The cops searched Smith's car after the shooting and found both his loaded gun and his bag of illegal drugs in the car.

If these NFL players want to have a month dedicated to discussing this "racial injustice" issue, I'm all for it. But let's discuss the ACTUAL facts of these cases, not the phony, manufactured bullshit that gets repeated as "fact" by the MSM and these SJWs. And while we're at it, let's also discuss why so many cops in this country get shot by black criminal suspects, and why blacks commit such a hugely-disproportionate amount of the violent crime in this country, and other factors that are relevant to a full understanding of this issue.

But we all know that's not the kind of "discussion" these a-holes want to have.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 24, 2017 08:41 AM (BXf9o)

170 168 . Should be "onion"

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 08:42 AM (g+Dix)

171
Last time our dryer conked out the repairman from the ompany that SELLS new appliance just told us to keep getting it fixed, they will never make them like they used too.
Posted by: Farmer at September 24, 2017 08:08 AM (fXlrW)

We just replaced our 18 year old dryer. Regretting it already. The new one is garbage.

Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 08:44 AM (uaHyk)

172 What also annoys me is that they never bother to learn any actual facts about the so-called "injustices" they protest. They simply repeat the media/SJW's talking points, which are almost always wildly incorrect.




Because a lot of them are ghetto rats who because they can play a particular sport are given a free pass in skoo, can barely speak English and are dumber than 3 day old dog shit. So let's see how low the scum can really get the TV ratings

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 08:45 AM (auHtY)

173 'We just replaced our 18 year old dryer. Regretting it already. The new one is garbage.'

Mrs VIA has a 60 year old dish washer.

Still works.
Sort of

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:45 AM (EyPfd)

174 On the gluten free idiocy-I'll add that I bought some overpriced shampoo and conditioner at the salon last month, and after I paid the hairdresser informed me that the shampoo and conditioner were gluten-free, as a "plus". Apparently gluten in hair products is a thing that some people care deeply about. Jesus wept.

Posted by: Goldilocks at September 24, 2017 08:46 AM (zz1sH)

175 @173 VIA I thought you were only 29?

Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2017 08:47 AM (jHrzU)

176 Apparently gluten in hair products is a thing that some people care deeply about.


I guess the new shampoo labels should have "do not eat" warnings now. Geez, that is deeply stupid.

Posted by: no good deed at September 24, 2017 08:48 AM (eIQHF)

177 "VIA I thought you were only 29?"

eh....ummmmmm...OK.

Mrs VIA has two 29 year old dishwashers.
In a single unit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 08:49 AM (EyPfd)

178 Just check the 10 day forecast to see when I would be able to open the windows so kittehs can bask in the sun and fresh air. looks like this 'Indian Summer" with highs in the high 80s and low 90s is going to last the rest of the month. So maybe this year's September will get back up to last year's instead of being 8F lower. But it only has two weeks to make it up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 08:50 AM (mpXpK)

179 Watched Trevor Loudon's "The Enemies Within" again yesterday.

Wish everyone in the country was required to see it before voting.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 08:50 AM (HiDrR)

180 "I wish to heaven that people would get this vehemently worked up about bowing a knee to the Lord as they do about taking a knee at a football game. No wonder we're in this mess. When people start being very very concerned about showing deference to the Lord our God, Maker of heaven and earth, then maybe I'll get worked up about showing deference to a song."

Preach it Grammie! I'm having a hard time seeing what the big deal is -- partly because I'm not a huge sports fan (have never watched or cared about the NFL anyway) but also because I'm not so sure that *kneeling* is all that inherently disrespectful compared to standing.

At least they aren't (yet) turning their backs, raising clenched fists (remember the Black Power dudes at the '68 Olympics?), interrupting the anthem with loud chants, etc., in a much more blatant manner. Yes, I realize that the message behind taking the knee ("Whitey is oppressing us!") and the overall attempt to inject politics into sports, is what's offensive, not the gesture per se. Still, personally, I'd rather both sides just not make a big deal out of it and move on.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 24, 2017 08:52 AM (9WuX0)

181 Mornin' Horde. Drove someplace this morning just to watch geese be geese. I need to do that more often.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Can't Touch This! at September 24, 2017 08:52 AM (66CWr)

182 Last weekend I received free suite tickets to an NFL game. I hadn't been to a game in 31 years (at which I was a teenager, and FELL ASLEEP in the stands). But now I thought, "maybe the suite will be a better experience, so why not?"

On the drive in to the stadium, there was trash EVERYWHERE. Thousands of people just dropping trash all over the city. Nasty.

Parking was anywhere from $20-$60, to park on top of that garbage. I finally found a spot nearly a mile away, for which I paid $15. Walking to the stadium with hundreds of manchildren wearing other men's uniforms, shouting obscenities at each other was just awful.

I finally got to the stadium, and was thrust into the pressing crowd of loud, vulgar people in the security lines. Then, through metal detectors and into another line for the escalator to the suite level.

The hallways were packed with the same people. All told, it took almost an hour to get to my seat once I exited the freeway at the stadium. The home team ended up winning 9-3, with poor offenses, and interminable TV timeouts on the field.

Also, the announcer crowed about the "sellout crowd", yet over half the seats in the stadium were empty. Not at kickoff - during the game. Even the season ticket holders don't go to NFL games, it would seem.

Other than the 5 beers I drank that came with the suite - not worth it in the least. Dirty, boring, loud. And that was with premium tickets.

NFL Can't die soon enough.

Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 08:53 AM (L+jGz)

183 One of the most interesting, and if I ever have a dime, solutions to dryer problems is to have two dryers for one washer. Jeans and towels can take hours to dry, but everything else is easy. Woman with a bunch-o-kids and grandkids told me that. I would really like to see if that works. Beer and bait refrigerators in the garage are common, I just wonder if heavy-duty dryers in the garage would be worth it as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 08:53 AM (MIKMs)

184 AFAIC the whole NFL monolith can crash and burn. Football culture seems to have morphed into something degraded and perverted as evidenced by the Sandusky and Sayreville incidents. I'd like to see an anti.-pedo and homoerotic awareness month in addition to BLM shit. That should really help ticket sales.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 08:54 AM (g+Dix)

185 Does anyone have the USFL schedule for today? What time do the Generals play?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 08:55 AM (/yyMv)

186 183 One of the most interesting, and if I ever have a dime, solutions to dryer problems is to have two dryers for one washer. Jeans and towels can take hours to dry, but everything else is easy. Woman with a bunch-o-kids and grandkids told me that. I would really like to see if that works. Beer and bait refrigerators in the garage are common, I just wonder if heavy-duty dryers in the garage would be worth it as well.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 08:53 AM (MIKMs)

Venting? Or is that only an issue with gas dryers?

Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 09:00 AM (uaHyk)

187 But we know how Rollerball turns out

JOHNATHON! JOHNATHAN! JOHNATHON!

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:00 AM (ghofu)

188 we just fixed our 19 year old washing machine again last month. It's a Kenmore, on it's last legs.

If we ever have to replace it I hope we can get a SpeedQueen. Apparently they still make those the old way.
Starts at around a thousand bucks though.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 09:01 AM (hMwEB)

189 182 . Imus used to mock his staff for wearing NFL jerseys. Said no one over age 12 should have them.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 09:01 AM (g+Dix)

190 Apropos of nothing, this is a funny twitter account:

https://twitter.com/mrsjohngoodman

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 09:02 AM (oVJmc)

191
Mornin' Horde. Drove someplace this morning just to watch geese be geese. I need to do that more often.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Can't Touch This! at September 24, 2017 08:52 AM (66CWr)


Cavil, how are you doing?

When Her Majesty is at shows on weekends I love to go on a long pointless drive to nowhere. Open road, my music, big cup of Buc-cee's coffee. 'Murica!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 24, 2017 09:02 AM (ZNCi6)

192 Also, please consider this if you are a sports fan:

STEAL. STEAL EVERYTHING YOU CAN. Cut your cord. Don't pay for cable. If you must watch, find an online sports book that streams live feeds for free.

Buy a digital antenna and watch games old style. Mute the commercials. Better yet, don't buy from the advertisers.

Don't go to the sports bar on game days. If you must, order only water, or one cheap beer.

Never attend an event in person, ever. Unless you win free tickets somehow, as I did. Once there, buy no concessions.

Sports is only entertainment. If its players and owners have forgotten that, we need to remind them.

STEAL STEAL STEAL.

Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 09:03 AM (L+jGz)

193 Sunday is for worship, family, outdoors and hobbies.

Perhaps if people got off their asses and back in touch with the fruits of this life, they wouldn't care what a bunch of worthless jackasses had to say or do.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 24, 2017 09:03 AM (6fmef)

194 >>>unlike today when shitty traitors ARE the commander and chief

Vic, this is not a slam on Trump, is that right?

Posted by: m at September 24, 2017 09:03 AM (9egmK)

195

I would rather watch a Consumer Reports test bench work up of Japanese Cornbrator Hyperwank Devices than pro sports.

They. Are. Dead. To. Me.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 09:04 AM (t3kPl)

196 Good morning Votermom

I was just shopping for used appliances for an Oxford House I'm helping to set up. You can get a used Speedqueen for three-four hundred, and then just fix it if it goes wrong. Still you'd have a better washer then a new one by another brand.

Posted by: booknlass at September 24, 2017 09:04 AM (SBgDf)

197 >>>>I wish to heaven that people would get this vehemently worked up about bowing a knee to the Lord<<<<<

Well, the left managed to work up a frothing hatred for Tim Tebow for taking a knee to pray.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 24, 2017 09:05 AM (3DZIZ)

198
Venting? Or is that only an issue with gas dryers?
=====

Venting for outflow could be an issue, but one electric dryer dedicated to heavier items and another to 'medium' items makes sense if you can work the configuration.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:05 AM (MIKMs)

199 I'd like to see an anti.-pedo and homoerotic awareness month in addition to BLM shit. That should really help ticket sales.

More elbows?

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 24, 2017 09:06 AM (bZ7mE)

200 I get this sports hate really, but why then stop there?
New movies, TV, music of all sorts.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:06 AM (ghofu)

201 I wish to heaven that people would get this vehemently worked up about bowing a knee to the Lord as they do about taking a knee at a football game.

Posted by: grammie winger
________

For myself, it isn't about who does what during the song. It isn't about politics or patriotism, either.

I've always enjoyed football, and I've liked the NFL as far back as I can remember. It's always been fun for me. The league, its franchises and its partners in the media offered a wonderful entertainment product, one which I happily consumed. And now, they all seem to be making deliberate efforts to alienate me. If that's what they want, then they can consider me alienated.

Meanwhile, the Coca-Cola Company has begun a television ad campaign that touts the company itself, distinct from its products. This is a company that has remained apolitical when it was vogue to take a political position. (It didn't embargo South Africa when the rest of the world did, for example.) Maybe the values that Coke is expressing is just Madison Avenue messaging, but for me, it works and I appreciate it.

I'm really not getting worked up about the NFL, grammie, and I get what you're saying. When you come right down to it, my choices in entertainment or soft drinks aren't that important. There are many ways I can spend my money and my time, and there are many topics on which I can focus my attention.

If values are the topic of the day, I would like to say that my values overlap with God's values -- that's that ideal and the goal. Through its outlets, the National Football League seems to be saying that their values are something different. That's fine. The league and I can part ways with no hard feelings. It's what they appear to want.

Now, to get on with my Sunday, I could really go for a Coke.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 09:06 AM (zkGZ8)

202 11
What has Fairfax come to? It used to be a nice suburb of DC where my
grandparents on my Mother's side lived. Now we have yoots brandishing
guns and threatening McDonald's workers because their service didn't
meet their high and mighty expectations. Look at the picture of the yoot
and you will see what has happened to this once nice community.

-----------------

Yoots! MS-13! Moar Muslims!

DREAMers! Diversity! No H8!

That about covers what Fairfax and Fairfax County, VA has become.

Posted by: Stu-22 at September 24, 2017 09:06 AM (be0vm)

203 182 . Imus used to mock his staff for wearing NFL jerseys. Said no one over age 12 should have them.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 09:01 AM (g+Dix)

Yup....he was correct. I say 8 years old but whats four years.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 09:07 AM (5VlCp)

204 182 Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 08:53 AM (L+jGz)


Meanwhile college home games here are always sold out. And when they say sold out they mean they do not have another seat available in the bleachers. And this is after added a new tier of bleachers to the stadium a few years ago. Seating capacity is 80,250 and everyone is packed and they have people standing in the few free areas with no seats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

205 gonna get willowed, BUT, it's a good thing NFL is falling apart. it's time for this overbloated idol to fall, no?

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 09:08 AM (QC/4S)

206 One thing I won't be doing today: watching any NFL football. I'm done.

Posted by: Stu-22 at September 24, 2017 09:09 AM (be0vm)

207 The NFL, per the request of players, may have a month of 'injustice dialogue ' in November that will be, in reality, an unending anti-Trump and anti-Trump voter dialogue.

Nail. Coffin.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at September 24, 2017 09:09 AM (oBuXO)

208 186 Venting? Or is that only an issue with gas dryers?

Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 09:00 AM (uaHyk)

If you are talking about moist air discharge that is an issue for all dryers. One time the air discharge duct came loose from my dryer and I didn't know it. All of a sudden the humidity in the house shot up to unbearable levels. We had condensation on the walls and windows.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

209 may I say that that clip of Stephen Curry criticizing Trump, or whatever he was doing... geez...

oh, on Fox just now, someone wondered by people had such a problem with Tim Tebow taking a knee during games.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at September 24, 2017 09:11 AM (ILitO)

210 Broadcast TV is paid for by advertisers so it's not stealing. Watch if you want to but theft of services is still wrong even if you hate the providers of the services.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 09:11 AM (UdKB7)

211 188 If we ever have to replace it I hope we can get a SpeedQueen. Apparently they still make those the old way.

Starts at around a thousand bucks though.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 09:01 AM (hMwEB)

As I said earlier, none of them are any good anymore. Don't spend a pile of money. Get the cheapest one you can that fits your needs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:12 AM (mpXpK)

212 Cavil, how are you doing?

When Her Majesty is at shows on weekends I love to go on a long pointless drive to nowhere. Open road, my music, big cup of Buc-cee's coffee. 'Murica!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Well I won't lie, it could be better. I have a urologist appointment to check into the apparent kidney stone issue (hoping that's actually what it is...) and I'm tired of constantly interrupting sleep to take a leak. This getting old thing, it's for the birds, and I'm not even out of my 40s yet...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Can't Touch This! at September 24, 2017 09:13 AM (66CWr)

213 NHL

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 09:13 AM (QC/4S)

214 "Get the cheapest one you can that fits your needs."


Buy land with a stream or river running through it.





And a rock.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 09:13 AM (EyPfd)

215 194
Vic, this is not a slam on Trump, is that right?

Posted by: m at September 24, 2017 09:03 AM (9egmK)

That is about the last occupier of the WH.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (mpXpK)

216 'Apparently they still make those the old way.'

The old way would be with metal transmissions and pumps, and mechanical timers witb no digital electronics. We're never going back to that.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 09:15 AM (UdKB7)

217 Whether you like it or not, the only way to make a difference is with your dollars. Don't watch, don't spend your hard earned money on it. Whatever it is.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2017 09:15 AM (U+nHb)

218 Remember that U-MO Columbia's football team started a lot of the shit at that campus.

The Left has concentrated on radicalizing minority players for the platform they provide.

Soon it'll be just the NHL.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 09:16 AM (oVJmc)

219 I still use my early 90's model Maytag washer and dryer. I just keep getting them fixed. Nothing digital.

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 09:16 AM (bfUpy)

220 The NBA can get bent too. I am an admitted bandwagon Golden State Warriors fan, and I watched nearly every single one of their games last year through an online sports books. I saw every live feed, most without any commercials (they cut to the dancin' girls during TV timeouts!) and gave the league $0. I watched the Finals on a digital antenna and muted every commercial break.

I like Steph Curry but think he is a jackass about this. The rest of the league has given him shit for years for being privileged, "too white", "not black enough", what have you, and now they want to stand by his side? He is trying to score legacy points, or some such crap.

But either way, I sleep soundly knowing that I consumed their entertainment without giving them anything back.

Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 09:17 AM (L+jGz)

221 Some sports talk guy was talking about how regular parking at the San Diego stadium (football) was $100. Is that true? If you pay that, you're retarded or burn money rich or both.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2017 09:17 AM (U+nHb)

222 Nood Book is up

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (8ikIW)

223 Books up

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

224 Baseball better nip that in the bud. How can a business afford to let its employees drive away customers? Meanwhile dozens of blacks are murdered by blacks every day and nobody cares. This can only be happening because of the devil.

Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (L2cRX)

225 And I support them as they take their courage, character and commitment into our communities to make them better or to call attention to injustice.

--

And what injustice would that be? I want specifics. I demand specifics.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 24, 2017 09:20 AM (mQ0Mc)

226 Does anyone have the USFL schedule for today? What time do the Generals play?

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Ha! I remember who owned that team.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 09:21 AM (zkGZ8)

227 Sonobi cleanup on post #1 please.

Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 09:21 AM (L2cRX)

228 ""Unmasking" presumes that the surveillance of Trump and his associates was incidental to intelligence-gathering efforts"

Susan and Samantha were only unmasking Trump associates. That's another tell. Any individual unmasking is suspect, but when you see all the dots on the page you can't not see the cat.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (pV/54)

229 Washer and dryer. SPEED QUEEN. Made in WI. still controlled with knobs. No clock! Still have to supply 2 hot water lines and NO cold.

Fyi, hot water is good for cleaning and killing vermin like bed bugs, why are these coming back? Greenies? By the way boogers are green.

Posted by: ThePatriot at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (sVPBh)

230 All that. Stooremaaaan dumps. waater in. the ooocean and. cauuuuses the. sea. level. to rise.

Posted by: Algore at September 24, 2017 09:26 AM (6QCzE)

231 I blocked ESPN on my cable. screw them.

Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (11H2y)

232 I stopped watching sports about 15 years ago. Too many obnoxious D-bags, rapists, and other criminals getting paid absurd amounts of money to ... play with balls. Too many hyper-aggressive retard fans who think they're "on the team." So it is no surprise that it all is now devolving to an even bigger pseudo-political crapfest. Let it burn.

Hollywood too.


Posted by: YOU TOO can free up COUNTLESS HOURS each week, month, and year at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (qYCgM)

233 Hey all-

I like to keep tabs on stuff that stands out to me, and I'm trying to relocate two posts:

1- There was a post recently ('Morning Rant' I think?) that had a twitter post showing the press' 'justifying' paedophilia as a gender preference. Does anyone remember which post contained this and can provide that link?

2- A cob recently featured their long twitter conversation in which they explained (I think it was) the availability of high risk pools and specialized insurance pre-Obamacare, and 'educated' the person being conversed with.

Both of these posts really stood out to me and I'd like to be able to reference them but the links are lost to me. Can someone help me find? Thanks!

Posted by: geewhiz at September 24, 2017 09:29 AM (fjSw0)

234 Found the second link actually - 'Tweetstorm' from July 16 ace.mu.nu/archives/370681.php.

Still looking for second, tho. Help appreciated!

Posted by: geewhiz at September 24, 2017 09:34 AM (fjSw0)

235 Dan I'm getting hungry. When you get up early and eat breakfast at 4 am by 10 am you are already hungry again.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

236 Well, an NFL team in Great Briton kneeling for the National Anthem and standing for God Save the Queen. Nothing like suicide by stupidity.

Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (bfUpy)

237 105 On the plus side, I scored a nice used router and router table off the inter webs.

Now I just need to clean them up, and put them to use.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

HA! I was thinking wifi router. I had to look up what a router table was. A special table to put a wifi router on? VIA's got way too much money.
Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 07:50 AM (8ikIW)


That got me, too. I saw "router" and "inter webs" in the same sentence and thought, "Why do you need a special table for it?"

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (sdi6R)

238 The NFL is taking a knee to suck up to the anti-America left, the haters that work diligently at dividing US.

Patriotic Fans that love America pay to watch the game, and kneeling for the anthem is the chance for the haters to poke in the eye, American traditional belief in loyalty to America's founding ideals. You paid to get away from the hate? Nope, we hate you, and you must watch our anti-American display and accept it. No Escape from our hate.

Small signs of support for the five Dallas cops murdered by the BLM inspired killer were denied, because it might be "divisive" to be against cop killing.

Gingrich was just on saying the various leagues next response (if the left keeps running them) will be to stop doing the anthem at events, which he said was a 150 year tradition. Another guy said they don't wear "uniforms", they wear costumes. the military wears uniforms.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (yKAUL)

239 I blocked ESPN on my cable. screw them.

Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (11H2y)


If you have cable, you give money to ESPN. They collect a net per-subscriber fee. Even if you don't watch or subscribe to ESPN.

I've seen estimates this charge is as low as $5.00 to as high as $10.00 a month.

The only way to keep them from seeing a nickel of your money is to cut ___ cable.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (EgwCt)

240 From the sidebar...

"Understanding America's ridiculously large $18.6T economy by comparing the GDP of US metro areas to entire countries The LA area, produced about the same economic output in 2016 as the entire country of Mexico. [dri]

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I noticed that they group Columbia, MD in with Baltimore (and Towson)... uhhh, Columbia is just a small suburban planned community of high earners who commute to D.C. and Baltimore. Besides one very huge office park, it doesn't have much of an industry to speak of.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 24, 2017 10:18 AM (Hnqc1)

241 30 Well it has spread to MLB...some cock sucker catcher for the Oaland As knelt. "

One idiot does not a trend make. The young Hispanic players who make up a big part of every team's roster seem genuinely grateful to America for giving the chance to escape shitholes like Venezuela and the DR. I once heard Pujols bragging that he had scored 100% on the test he took to become US citizen.

And most of the black American-born players don't seem interested in BLM. I'd say it's because American baseball players tend to come from the middle classes and not the hood (not many Little League teams in the inner cities) but of course, Kaepernick comes from the middle class himself.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (P8951)

242 Another guy said they don't wear "uniforms", they wear costumes. the military wears uniforms.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (yKAUL)

Well, that seems a bit silly. Bus drivers and Taco Bell workers wear uniforms , not costumes to work. There is nothing uniquely military about the word uniforms.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (P8951)

243 Mrs VIA just got a text from a good friend.

To paraphrase:

Worked hard yesterday, and today to get chores done so I could watch the Ravens in England.

Watched players take a knee, and turned it off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (EyPfd)

244 Every liberal now has one goal, like journalists, to "change the world".

They've changed it for the worse and they are just getting started. Fuck them all.



Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (3myMJ)

245 I may be annoying.
I don't know why.
Most importantly, I don't care.

Posted by: Sonobi at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (WAnre)

246 Posted by: Sonobi at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (WAnre)

Yeah and I bet you are kneeling too, ya little bitch.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 10:36 AM (3myMJ)

247 Rams 9ers game seats were selling for 14$..stadium still half full....yup the nfl is about on life support. Soon to be tits up.... They will still double n tripple down on this nonesense- f#ck em

Posted by: E.T. at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (P1GJy)

248 More refunds to advertisers for smaller audiences, lawsuits for concussions, lower ratings, lower attendance.

If the NFL was a horse, I'd shoot it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (oVJmc)

249 Guessing the tv contracts n season tickets are already sold ... So it might be that the real losses wont be felt bythe nfl until next year...

Posted by: E.T. at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (P1GJy)

250 One idiot does not a trend make.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V
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Very true.

My beef (if you can call it that) is how the product is packaged. There are many elements -- the spectacle of the sporting events themselves, what's shown on television, what's discussed by the commentators, what's reported by the sports media, what's disseminated by the teams and leagues through press releases, etc. The last is something the league has absolute control over; the rest, not so much.

As I try to enjoy sports, I get the whole set. Lately, the national anthem protests (or platforms, or however it's being labeled) is dominating, and I can't help but think that it's all by design. Maybe it's not. Either way, I enjoy it a lot less.

Right now I'm thinking about The Rock and his early days as a professional wrestler. He started out as a heel. His catchphrase for a while was "Know your role, and shut your mouth." Call me silly or crazy, but I think there's some valuable wisdom in that.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (zkGZ8)

251 #174

The 'gluten free' labeling on shampoo is important to Celiacs because shampoo often runs off into the mouth/nose and topical exposure to gluten can cause the autoimmune disease equivalent of severe sun burns to Celiacs. Very unpleasant over your scalp, face, and other body parts. Anyone else buying the product because 'gluten free' is just a fad whoring hypochondriac.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at September 24, 2017 10:46 AM (N5dam)

252 18 Skip, glad that was posted in the EMT. In the OOT, I never would have gotten to sleep.
Heard bits and pieces of those facts, but put together, nearly terrifying.

Posted by: Sonobi at September 24, 2017 10:56 AM (WAnre)

253 249 Guessing the tv contracts n season tickets are already sold ... So it might be that the real losses wont be felt bythe nfl until next year...

Per second commercial prices are based on viewership #s expected and the aforementioned tv contract cash outlay. Viewership drops significantly forces advertisers to look to options or get discounted rates. Networks would be sprinting to the Commish for 'rebates' since the on field product is essentially the same, while allowing the 'disrespect cancer' to grow.

Posted by: Sonobi at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (WAnre)

254 Milo and others have promised to speak at UC Berkeley today, even though they now have no sponsor and no official recognition. Does anyone know the details?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (398bZ)

255 The NFL is pushing things to the point to where we can't allow anything less than their complete collapse.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:06 AM (oVJmc)

256 The NFL is taking a sucker's bet and risks killing the golden goose. The players are mostly morons, but the owners (most of them) didn't get rich by being fools.

I expect to see some walkback by the owners relatively soon. And Goodell of course will swivel as if mounted on castors.

I actually hope they do double down on insanity. The demise of the NFL and NBA, and their media whores at ESPN, would provide a wealth of schadenfreude.

The NHL remains largely untouched by this thus far. I started to transition to hockey last season and enjoyed it, although the sport does not transfer that well to television. In limited amounts it's fine. It will always be a regional sport, but then I'm now just a casual fan.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:17 AM (ALDN3)

257 Half the posts on the page at Freep-land are about the NFL insulting America as official policy now.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 11:18 AM (3myMJ)

258 What is wrong with the NFL? Do these idiots realize that a minimum wage job sucks?

Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (z74gh)

259 I love how Trump openly says what so many have been thinking on so many cultural issues. He throws the light and the roaches scatter.

This is actually cathartic for the society. Expose these people, at long last, for who and what they are.

Trump's popularity will continue to increase.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:22 AM (ALDN3)

260 I remember 'You ride for the Brand"

But now 'The Brand" supports this shit as well.

So fuck the brand

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 11:22 AM (EyPfd)

261 'Do these idiots realize that a minimum wage job sucks?'

You answered your own question.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:23 AM (ALDN3)

262 Steelers will not report to the field for the National Anthem today.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (3myMJ)

263 OMG, they are committing professional hari-kari on live TV.

This is epic.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:30 AM (ALDN3)

264 The slow erosion of fans is about to become a landslide.

Expect stadiums at quarter-capacity for the rest of the season.

I can't believe they would be so clueless, but I'm thrilled that they are.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (ALDN3)

265
This is actually cathartic for the society. Expose these people, at long last, for who and what they are.


And give a voice to the people who are denied representation in the culture. The Silenced Majority.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

266 OMG, they are committing professional hari-kari on live TV.

This is epic.


It's almost like they're going on the field with something other than football on their minds...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

267 The only people for whom the NFL is a necessity are the owners and players.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (oVJmc)

268 This "take a knee" crap should go over well. Especially the next time one of the NFL's mega bucks owners sticks his/her hand out for a brand-spanking new billion dollar stadium built with TAXPAYER dollars. Go piss up a rope NFL owners. Pay for it yourselves. And get your pampered, overpaid players to do the construction work so they'll have a trade to fall back on once their glory days of oppression are over.

Posted by: Nunya Bizness at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (wf6d/)

269 "Expect stadiums at quarter-capacity for the rest of the season."

I wish you to be right but I'm not sanguine about the prospects. The addiction is strong. I know several conservatives that can't make the break.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (3myMJ)

270 >>>262 Steelers will not report to the field for the National Anthem today.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (3myMJ)

death knell

Posted by: m at September 24, 2017 11:44 AM (9egmK)

271 Trump's popularity will not rise and he doesn't care.
Every time he gets a bump in the polls, he fires up some more controversy.

I gotta say, the man has balls the size of Alaska.

And while I wish it were being said with more charisma, he says what needs to be said.

This is war!

Posted by: Karmic Justice at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM (tYTF9)

272 267 there are a lot of fuckheads stuck on "fantasy" sports with a lot of money (for them and in aggregate) at stake. It will take some doing to break the spell.

Posted by: Karmic Justice at September 24, 2017 11:51 AM (tYTF9)

273 268 This "take a knee" crap should go over well. Especially the next time one of the NFL's mega bucks owners sticks his/her hand out for a brand-spanking new billion dollar stadium built with TAXPAYER dollars. Go piss up a rope NFL owners. Pay for it yourselves. And get your pampered, overpaid players to do the construction work so they'll have a trade to fall back on once their glory days of oppression are over.
Posted by: Nunya Bizness at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (wf6d/)


The problem is, city governments tend to be run by Democrats. They won't care about taxing the Deplorables.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (sdi6R)

274 Steelers will not report to the field for the National Anthem today.

Well, let's see what Rush says about his Steelers tomorrow.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (oVJmc)

275 How far the Rooney's have fallen....

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (ALDN3)

276 Fredo is laughing his ass off right now. This is exactly what he wanted his leftist policies to do; destroy as many good traditions in this country as he could.

Fundemental change.

Posted by: Soona at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (ZAAkQ)

Saturday ONT (9/23/17) Screw Current Events Edition

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(Quite the Saturday night!)

*****


The Addams Family meet The Ramones.

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Why don't you 'ettes bring us some sammiches? It's a science experiment. Do it for the science.


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Stanwood Elkus one pissed off dude.

Twenty-five years ago, Stanwood Elkus checked into a Veterans Affairs hospital in Long Beach, Cailfornia, for a surgery to correct a urethral stricture.
He checked out after a botched surgery with incontinence, a low sex drive, and erectile dysfunction. He spent the next twenty years letting his anger snowball– all the way to murder.

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The ONT Musical Interlude



September 23, 1977, David Bowie released 'Heroes' as a single. Co-written by Bowie and Brian Eno, the track features King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp and has gone on to become one of Bowie's signature songs. via thisdayinmusic.com


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September 23, 1980, Bob Marley collapsed on stage during a concert at the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Marley had collapsed in New York's Central Park while jogging, two days before and was told to immediately cancel the US leg, but flew to Pittsburgh to perform one final performance. This was the last time Marley ever appeared on stage performing, Marley died of cancer on in May 1981. via thisdayinmusic.com

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September 23, 1930, Born on this day, Ray Charles, singer songwriter, (1962 UK & US No.1 single 'I Can't Stop Loving You' plus over 30 US Top 40 singles, 2005 US No.1 album 'Genius Loves Company'). Charles died on 10th June 2004 aged 73. via thisdayinmusic.com

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This is the big North America Moron Meetup weekend in Vegas. Confessions Of A Las Vegas Stripper Wonder how many Morons will run across her? You do have the right to remain silent.


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It pays not to wear pants. Especially when they explode.

FEW PROFESSIONALS ASK MORE OF their trousers than farmers. Their rugged, often dirty work no doubt taxes the cleanliness and durability of any garment. Perhaps the least a farmer can ask of his pants is that they don’t spontaneously burst into flames. But in the case of a number of agricultural workers in 1930s New Zealand, it turns out, that was indeed too much to ask.

Fans of Discovery’s long-running science-and-explosions show, Mythbusters, might be familiar with the strange spate of self-immolating trousers that briefly plagued New Zealand farmers in the 1930s. What’s less commonly known about this unusual saga is that it all began with a weed called ragwort.


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Social Media. The downfall of many Genius Award Winner.


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Not all kids are jerks. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.


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1 Hey y'all!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (w+Jhj)

2 3rd?

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:59 PM (ghofu)

3 4rd? and I read

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (BoMuO)

4 Top 10?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:01 PM (I11+c)

5 Just saw American Assassin.

Violence and not politically correct.

My kind of movie.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:01 PM (h2y5G)

6 2-0 in the Moron Fantasy League.

Enough said.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (GsAUU)

7 ONT Breaks On Through To The Other Side

or I haven't read the content yet but yay, probably

Posted by: mindful webworker's shuffling gait at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (d/5DH)

8 You'll be #2 again here in a few moments Skip.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (sf2BM)

9 Penn State scores!

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (h2y5G)

10 If I would have been the one hammering in Lawrence O'Donnell 's building I would have only doubled my efforts

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (ghofu)

11 Ran across this incredibly sweet fiddle version of Ripple Enjoyable For Deadheads and non-Deadheads alike

http://tinyurl.com/ycaz5jwf

Made my day.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2017 10:03 PM (NbRJx)

12 Am I the only one not in Vegas?

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:03 PM (h2y5G)

13 Yo Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2017 10:03 PM (U0v/A)

14 Interception Penn State!

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (h2y5G)

15 404 on the Vegas stripper link.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (O5Q3r)

16 Was watching Penn state but I really need to turn out the light.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (ghofu)

17 "Fripp" by Catherine Wheel:

https://youtu.be/To2hWMgnggM

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (GsAUU)

18 Yeah, I can dance.

Posted by: John Kerry at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (BFYeS)

19 LMAO, I think Trion is Neptune's first moon, but I may be wrong.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (GsAUU)

20 Hey everybody, again. Thanks for all the fun in the movie thread.

Wow, incredible VA story. That hospital in Long Beach is located close to me.

I shared this late last night, not sure if anyone saw it. The worst mass killer in the history of Orange County, California, EVER, Scott Dekraai, was sentenced this past week.

https://tinyurl.com/ydft7942

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (eMKNe)

21 I read the ONT content in the morning anyway.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (ghofu)

22
Yay thirty-seventh !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (Z8R9P)

23 A good 'un, MisHum! Thank'ee kindly.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (DMUuz)

24 404 on the Vegas stripper link.
Posted by: tu3031

Go into the address bar and delete the parts before "cavemancircus".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (I11+c)

25 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (KCxzN)

26 Triton

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (GsAUU)

27 Movie thread is a hoot
Good night all

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (ghofu)

28
What's less commonly known about this unusual saga is that it all began with a weed called ragwort.

Is that where Hairy Pothead went to school?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (IqV8l)

29 6 Just saw American Assassin.

Violence and not politically correct.

My kind of movie.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:01 PM (h2y5G)

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It's good? I must say, that's not how I pictured Mitch Rapp at all.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (gC2IV)

30 Bullshit!

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:07 PM (h2y5G)

31 The stripper isn't confessing. I guess what happened in Vegas is staying in Vegas.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2017 10:07 PM (DMUuz)

32 That graphic at the end also reminds me that the waitress/waiter will always ask me how everything is when I've got a large amount of food in my mouth.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 10:07 PM (w+Jhj)

33 If I was Stanwood Elkus I'd be pretty pissed off too, but I wouldn't wait around 20 years just to shoot the wrong guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:08 PM (NWiLs)

34 Hello horde,

I was supposed to join a hiking excursion at a workshop today but I wisely punted as the weather was turning and I didn't fancy hiking in a cold damp wind even if I quickly grabbed the long johns and rain jacket out of my car before the bus left.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 23, 2017 10:08 PM (8qFZP)

35 Duke,

Rapp is supposed to be young in this movie.
I think the young guy did a pretty decent job.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:09 PM (h2y5G)

36 If I was Stanwood Elkus I'd be pretty pissed off too, but I wouldn't wait around 20 years just to shoot the wrong guy.
Posted by: Insomniac

"Botch a surgery on my junk, die on the spot" is my policy.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:09 PM (I11+c)

37 Slow night. Is everyone in Vegas, or just still jawing about movies?

Posted by: PaleRider at September 23, 2017 10:10 PM (8qFZP)

38 Makes sense, mpfs.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 10:10 PM (gC2IV)

39 Can we let Stan out for a few days so he can pay Hillary a visit?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 10:10 PM (5VlCp)

40 >>> "Fripp" by Catherine Wheel:

Cherry song

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2017 10:11 PM (U0v/A)

41 Can we let Stan out for a few days so he can pay Hillary[\s] McCain a visit?


FIFY

Posted by: PaleRider at September 23, 2017 10:11 PM (8qFZP)

42 ""Botch a surgery on my junk, die on the spot" is my policy.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable"

Like that doctor in the movie Stir Crazy, that cuts the balls off the prisoner that was in for an appendectomy.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 10:12 PM (w+Jhj)

43 Shoot, early to the barrel for me [/s\s]

Posted by: PaleRider at September 23, 2017 10:12 PM (8qFZP)

44 Cheery song, autocucumber

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2017 10:12 PM (U0v/A)

45 32 That graphic at the end also reminds me that the waitress/waiter will always ask me how everything is when I've got a large amount of food in my mouth.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 10:07 PM (w+Jhj)

--When I was in college I was dining with my dad and stepmom at some dive in DC. Waiter bugged us a few times shortly after we tucked in. While we were eating, a group of chicks, apparently fresh off a tennis match, sat at another table. Our waiter disappeared, over 30 minutes after we finished and were ready to pay.

My dad: "Why bother with us when there's a tableful of pussy over there?"

LMAO

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:12 PM (GsAUU)

46 32 That graphic at the end also reminds me that the waitress/waiter will always ask me how everything is when I've got a large amount of food in my mouth.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 10:07 PM (w+Jhj)

Rich Hall had a Sniglet defining that: Snarfing, or maybe snorfing. eh. You know.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (T/7Cm)

47 Nice, Ripley !
Thanks !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (Z8R9P)

48 Vegas Stripper link.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7kd23ao

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (sf2BM)

49 Hey, How'd I end up first? I was second....

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (w+Jhj)

50 Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 10:06 PM (gC2IV)

It's the opposite of how I pictured him too.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (LuKE7)

51 Huh, I don't think I have save tags in my signature.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 23, 2017 10:13 PM (8qFZP)

52 Rumor has it that the Morons who inhabit this Smart Military Blog know a thing or two about guns. I took my 03 Springfield to the range today. Amazing weapon. Action like butter. The ancients knew how to make a machine. Not a weapon I would want in a firefight. Holy Hell- heavy and my shoulder was sore after 20 rounds. I don't know how my grandfather lugged that damn thing across Europe. Anyway the question- How do you use the ladder sight? I get that it has 4 aiming notches. I had pretty good grouping with the battle sight, and peep sight set at 100yds. But the ladder goes up to 2800 yds, I'm not trying to make shots that far, but I'm not sure how I would get a sight picture with it set that high unless I hold my head up high. It almost feels like shooting from the hip. Is this right, or am I missing something. Google is full of explanations of the parts of the sight, but not how to employ it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (BoMuO)

53
404 on the Vegas stripper link.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (O5Q3r)

Fixed...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (wYseH)

54 44 Cheery song, autocucumber
Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2017 10:12 PM (U0v/A)

--LMAO, I wish it was a cherry song for me.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (GsAUU)

55 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

56 >>>Location of your waiter...

... Triton, 7th moon of Jupiter<<<





At least that's better than him being near Uranus.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (x9oEV)

57 Watching Black Hawk Down.

Fuck. You. Billy. Jeff. Clinton.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (GsAUU)

58 Google is full of explanations of the parts of the sight, but not how to employ it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (BoMuO)

I'm not sure if there is anyone around tonight who can answer your question, but ask it during the day and you will get an answer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2017 10:17 PM (wYseH)

59 Was anybody watching the ND - MSU game when the official fucked up and gave ND a TD?

They tried a pass into the left back corner, the receiver caught it but only had one foot in, no TD. Next play same but into the right corner. Caught, clear as day the receiver only had one foot in, but TD called.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 23, 2017 10:18 PM (d5OWu)

60 I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

It's not depressing, but it is quite weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2017 10:18 PM (wYseH)

61 55 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

--Like golf.

Too frustrating.

I have never been, but been to night clubs with chicks taking clothes off.

Good gravy, my dating life was bad enough back then without cranking it up to 11.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:18 PM (GsAUU)

62 55 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

I've probably been there enough for the both of us.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 23, 2017 10:18 PM (LuKE7)

63 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac

It is, that's why it's best to shut off that part of the brain. Blood flow restriction helps.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:19 PM (I11+c)

64 I love the Ray Charles "America the Beautiful." One of my favorite movies is "The Sandlot." I love the 4th of July scene.

It gives me some small sliver of hope that we, as Americans, can persevere when so many others have failed, or are in the process of failing (Europe).

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:19 PM (T/7Cm)

65 I don't understand why Catherine Tmpf is on Fox when they could have had Gavin McInnes. Gavin has made points that are insightful and smart, and really really funny.
Bob Long is good, too, but.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:20 PM (11H2y)

66 >>>Just saw American Assassin.



Violence and not politically correct.



My kind of movie.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus...Not My Sonobis at September 23, 2017 10:01 PM (h2y5G)<<<

Hmmm... if only there were a way to better our box office numbers?
What could that be...
Meh, can't think of anything. Time for a remake of Blazing Saddles with Margaret Cho as the Sheriff Bertha.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 10:20 PM (x9oEV)

67 Google is full of explanations of the parts of the sight, but not how to employ it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (BoMuO)

Try this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6cBa_4hFd4

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 10:21 PM (5VlCp)

68 63 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac

It is, that's why it's best to shut off that part of the brain. Blood flow restriction helps.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:19 PM (I11+c)

I think I have excess vascular development in that part of my brain. There's no way I could stop thinking about how unhappy and miserable I was that I was paying some random chick to pretend to like me for a few minutes.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

69 Don't know if it's been posted yet, but an Oakland Athletics rookie took a knee during the anthem tonight.

His hat was off & over his heart. The Athletics reporter said "He's very patriotic."
But I'm sorry. I'm sick of this.

Posted by: Shopgirl at September 23, 2017 10:23 PM (bj6/L)

70 Time for a remake of Blazing Saddles with Margaret Cho as the Sheriff Bertha.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin

I need to find a chink in the sheriff's armor.

Posted by: Hedley Lamar at September 23, 2017 10:23 PM (I11+c)

71 Google is full of explanations of the parts of the sight, but not how to employ it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (BoMuO)

Try this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6cBa_4hFd4


Saw that before I went to the range. He never got around to saying anything useful. Although it looks like he used the same range I used when I lived in San Antonio.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:24 PM (BoMuO)

72 Earlier today, on MH's excellent Pet Thread, there was a link to this pic of an intrepid hunter. I've tried to ID the gun, but without luck. Anyone recognize it for certain? There are a couple of clues, which, if not unique, at least narrow the field.

http://tinyurl.com/yaojd652

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 10:24 PM (7Cr6v)

73 Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

The challenge and fun is making them like you for real.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 23, 2017 10:24 PM (LuKE7)

74 66 that sounds like the kind of thing a SJW would do. they've already ruined comic books.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:25 PM (11H2y)

75 The challenge and fun is making them like you for real.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 23, 2017 10:24 PM (LuKE7)

My odds of that are slim to none, and none skipped town.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:25 PM (NWiLs)

76 I've never been to a strip club. I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.
Posted by: Insomnia

Me too. Went to a bachelor party, some years ago. It started at a bar, which was cool. then they said, Let us adjourn to the tittie bar.

I ducked out, and walked home. Thankfully it was a short walk.

I just can't. I imagined I would see these sad women and think of their even more sad parents.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:25 PM (T/7Cm)

77 60 I honestly think it would be too goddamn depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

It's not depressing, but it is quite weird.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2017 10:18 PM (wYseH)


I've told this story before. The only time I ever went to a strip club, I walked in, sat down on a barstool, and BOOM, I was on the floor.

Seems the guy two seats down hauled off and slugged the guy next to me and he knocked me off my stool.

It happened faster than it took to type it. Walked in, sat down, BOOM.

I stuck around and had a couple of beers, and the bartender was super polite to me, but I never had the urge to go back.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:26 PM (sdi6R)

78 After you see internet porn and how much of it there is, a strip club isn't all that exciting, I've been told by friends who know.

Not that I've ever been to a strip club, so I wouldn't know.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 23, 2017 10:26 PM (m9X4Y)

79 Insomniac, I'm the exact same way.

I can't for the life of me figure out how some people can delude themselves so completely about those women. "Oh no, this dancer chick really LIKES me!!" Uh huh.

I had a boss (now former, of course) who once insisted on dragging me to one of those places, Fritz's in Bellflower (now gone). I lasted all of 45 minutes before finally begging off and leaving.

He also loved a place (still there, I believe) in Norwalk, where supposedly the 'dancing girls' break California law and will *hug and kiss* the patrons. Legend has it they've got performing there of the best-tipped working women in the whole state.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

80 Glad I don't live in St. Louis.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:28 PM (GsAUU)

81 In the Mitch Rapp books his focus is killing Muslim terrorists, tracking one down in particular.


Did they keep that aspect in the movie, or turn them into a Benetton ad? I heard they turned the big bad into an American.

Posted by: Butch at September 23, 2017 10:28 PM (hXu8T)

82 >>>Time for a remake of Blazing Saddles with Margaret Cho as the Sheriff Bertha.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin
<<<




Damn, Pixy messed up the Hollyweird sock I wanted. *shrugs*






>>>I need to find a chink in the sheriff's armor.
Posted by: Hedley Lamar at September 23, 2017 10:23 PM (I11+c)<<<

Heh!


Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 10:28 PM (x9oEV)

83
Question for All:

Could you imagine 30-40 years ago when you were a kid Stevie Wonder would end up hating you, and you hating him in 2017?

That goes for all these famous rich celeries.

They all turned out to be Shits. Even Stevie Wonder.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:28 PM (IW5NJ)

84
btw, who else thought Stevie Wonder died a long time ago?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:29 PM (IW5NJ)

85 My urethral VA story: I once had a pt who came to me on a managed care Medicare plan. He had been getting most of his care at the local VA (because it was free) but came to us because he had had a catheter in his bladder for six months.

Yes. Six months. He had a history of prostate CA and also enlarged prostate, couldn't pee on his own. Had been seeing Urology at the VA and no one would touch him. I referred him to one of our urologists who was a little apprehensive but did the surgery and he did well. He thanked us very much and went back to his free medical care at the VA.

Just a little picture of our future...

Posted by: Dr Alice at September 23, 2017 10:29 PM (LaT54)

86 All leftist politics, all the time. You will read it, see it, watch it on tv. It will be in your news, your sports, your entertainment, your education.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:29 PM (BoMuO)

87 Sooth, it's JLaw Syndrome/Disease.

These performers-- Stevie, Jennifer Lawrence, Elizabeth Moss-- are great at what they do, *acting.*

But they're dumb as a dumpster of shit-covered rocks otherwise.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:30 PM (eMKNe)

88 I rented office space in a building that had a gun club in the basement and a strip club next door. Every day at 5, the gals would warm up to the same song "Private Dancer," really loud, and the after work gun club members would come in for practice and the sounds of shooting would start.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:31 PM (11H2y)

89 84
btw, who else thought Stevie Wonder died a long time ago?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:29 PM (IW5NJ)

--You're confused. See Ray Charles above.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:31 PM (GsAUU)

90
Could you imagine you'd end up hating Gidget/Flying Nun?

I couldn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:31 PM (IW5NJ)

91
Ray Charles is dead, too?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:31 PM (IW5NJ)

92 Wow, heavily bearded Rob Long.

Way different look.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:32 PM (GsAUU)

93 vivi, LOL that they would choose "Private Dancer."

It's a song ABOUT how much these 'dancing girls' just luuuuvv their patrons. Good grief.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:32 PM (eMKNe)

94 Could you imagine 30-40 years ago when you were a kid Stevie Wonder would end up hating you, and you hating him in 2017?

-
I wonder how many fans James LeBaron will losr between now and next week.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 10:32 PM (Nwg0u)

95 Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

Place in Norwalk is called The Holiday. Fun place, at least as I remember it back in the mid 80s.

Posted by: Astute Dude at September 23, 2017 10:32 PM (L4OYN)

96 90
Could you imagine you'd end up hating Gidget/Flying Nun?

I couldn't.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 10:31 PM (IW5NJ)



I don't hate her. I just ignore her.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

97 Saw that before I went to the range. He never got around to saying anything useful. Although it looks like he used the same range I used when I lived in San Antonio.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:24 PM (BoMuO)

He follows that one up with his final video which shows he found to flip up the rear sight and use the bottom of the triangle on the rear sight moved up one notch.

I just flip the rear sight up and use the bottom of the triangle at 50 and 100 yards.

The front sight posts can vary due to different heights I believe so you have to play with the rear sight triangle bottom notch sliding up or down or use the circle in the bottom sight.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (5VlCp)

98 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (mknWS)

99 Astude Dude, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (eMKNe)

100 I don't know how my grandfather lugged that damn thing across Europe.
------------

It was lighter than the M1 and M14. Hauling those around didn't seem like a big deal...but I was younger then.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (7Cr6v)

101 I rented office space in a building that had a gun club in the basement and a strip club next door. Every day at 5, the gals would warm up to the same song "Private Dancer," really loud, and the after work gun club members would come in for practice and the sounds of shooting would start.
Posted by: vivi

All's they need is a liquor store and it could be the Horde clubhouse.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (I11+c)

102 I love Amazon. Okay, lefty shit aside, I really like using them.

I hate it when they make something fucking Prime exclusive. New Nothing More album came out. Eight bucks on Amazon. Sweet!

Must be a Prime member.

Mother. Fuckers.

Posted by: Robert at September 23, 2017 10:34 PM (mknWS)

103 @90

Not even Frog... either.

Posted by: teej at September 23, 2017 10:34 PM (l1wsb)

104 102 I love Amazon. Okay, lefty shit aside, I really like using them.

I hate it when they make something fucking Prime exclusive. New Nothing More album came out. Eight bucks on Amazon. Sweet!

Must be a Prime member.

Mother. Fuckers.
Posted by: Robert at September 23, 2017 10:34 PM (mknWS)

--I'll take this opportunity to say that the new The Tick is awesome.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:35 PM (GsAUU)

105 Robert, I wonder about Amazon sometimes.

True, Bezos is a lefty, but at the site itself, they seem to do some good stuff.

For instance, there's a number of right-wing or -leaning sci-fi authors who self-publish and/or market their books there, and Amaozn does a good job of keeping leftist trolls out of their reviews. Larry Correia, for instance.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:36 PM (eMKNe)

106 --I'll take this opportunity to say that the new The Tick is awesome.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:35 PM (GsAUU)

*Thumbs up*

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:37 PM (mknWS)

107 But they're dumb as a dumpster of shit-covered rocks otherwise.
Posted by: qdpsteve
-----------

Prior to the movies, entertainers were regarded as gypsies, and no more honorable. But, somewhere in there, they became 'celebrities'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 10:37 PM (7Cr6v)

108 The Liquor store was across the street.
My office was in 20 west 20th st; next door was the VIP Club. I just looked it up and the online review says "$20 cover, ugly girls who aren't really dancing and $12 beers."

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:37 PM (11H2y)

109 >>>All's they need is a liquor store and it could be the Horde clubhouse.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:33 PM (I11+c)<<<

A gun club, strip club, and liquor store clubhouse?!

That could get ugly the first time a 'Ron yells out for someone to "give him another shot!"

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 10:37 PM (x9oEV)

110 Mike, LOL. Yup.

Supposedly up through the 1920s and beyond, if you said a woman was an 'actress,' that was a code word for... a lot of icky stuff.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:38 PM (eMKNe)

111 Well strip club, gun club, a wet bar, and a diverse book selection; then it would be a Horde clubhouse.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:38 PM (Ktewm)

112 Now an asshole baseball player kneeled for the anthem.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2017 10:38 PM (rmVvL)

113 The front sight posts can vary due to different heights I believe so you have to play with the rear sight triangle bottom notch sliding up or down or use the circle in the bottom sight.


I used it with the ladder down (battle sight) it is set for 500 yds, but it was close enough for plinking at 50. I used the peep sight set as low as I could, 100 yards, also good at 50. 50-100yds is as far as I would engage anything anyway. I was just wondering how one would use the sight for longer distances like 1-2000 yds as the notches end up very high.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:39 PM (BoMuO)

114 ESPN jizzed themselves they were so happy.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2017 10:39 PM (rmVvL)

115 I looked it up on Wikipedia. Triton is actually the 8th moon of Neptune, but if that graphic was made before 2004, it would have been correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Neptune


Once I went to a restaurant, and when I was finished eating and wanted my check, the waiter was nowhere to be seen. I did everything I could to call attention to myself. I stood up and looked around, making it really obvious I needed service.

Nothing. I was already in a foul mood that night for other reasons, so eventually I just got up and left. Nobody stopped me.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

116 Prior to the movies, entertainers were regarded as gypsies, and no more honorable. But, somewhere in there, they became 'celebrities'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc

In Elizabethan England, actors were grouped in with prostitutes and pickpockets. We call that "the good old days".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:40 PM (I11+c)

117 For instance, there's a number of right-wing or -leaning sci-fi authors who self-publish and/or market their books there, and Amaozn does a good job of keeping leftist trolls out of their reviews. Larry Correia, for instance.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:36 PM (eMKNe)

I fucking *heart* Correia.

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:40 PM (mknWS)

118 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911624416374738945

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911624530602463234

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911624651981381636

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625023118544907

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625138055139328

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (eh0Va)

119 Well strip club, gun club, a wet bar, and a diverse book selection; then it would be a Horde clubhouse.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:38 PM (Ktewm)

Needs a jukebox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6c8X_s1h9Y

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (mknWS)

120 So the choice tonight is the UW Huskies or Enigma Variations.

So far, Sir Edward Elgar is winning.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (TKmA0)

121 Well strip club, gun club, a wet bar, and a diverse book selection; then it would be a Horde clubhouse.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR)

Tru Dat. Can't have a Horde clubhouse without a decent library.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (I11+c)

122 --I'll take this opportunity to say that the new The Tick is awesome.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:35 PM (GsAUU)

really? Because no Patrick Warburton. Is the writing better? The production? I've seen a few ads for the new Tick and all I thought is, "eh, that dude is not Patrick Warburton." it threw me off. Tell me it's worth checking out.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (T/7Cm)

123 He also loved a place (still there, I believe) in Norwalk, where supposedly the 'dancing girls' break California law and will *hug and kiss* the patrons. Legend has it they've got performing there of the best-tipped working women in the whole state.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

I don't know if "hug and kiss" is supposed to be a euphemism. If not, though, I'm not surprised as a lot of men are starved for affection of any kind, even if it isn't sincere.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:43 PM (NWiLs)

124 More Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625260377747458

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625520844075008

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625641853964288

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625746950557696

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/911625852164730881

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 10:43 PM (eh0Va)

125 Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

v cxsa

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:43 PM (GsAUU)

126 I was just wondering how one would use the sight for longer distances like 1-2000 yds as the notches end up very high.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:39 PM (BoMuO)

Yup.....I believe with the rear sight flipped down the rear sight is set for 500 something yards...crazy!

I think the tippy top notch was for volley fire back in the day.

There is a USMC rear sight with slight differences too.

Depending on the ammo and how it shoots, I play with the rear sight picture by sliding the front sight post either buried at the bottom of the notch, or half way or normal.

Loads of fun and a great rifle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 10:44 PM (5VlCp)

127 106 --I'll take this opportunity to say that the new The Tick is awesome.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:35 PM (GsAUU)

*Thumbs up*
Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:37 PM (mknWS)

I enjoyed it as well. Good series. I hope they have more seasons coming.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (NWiLs)

128 14,890 days and still a virgin.

p.s. -- no cats in ONT.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (J0r+G)

129 Stevie Wonder took a knee for some "benefit" concert tonight

1. I wonder if he would pay for his own concert security since cops are so "racist"

2. I wonder how he knows for sure that he's black

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (eh0Va)

130 Robert, that is one angry sounding song

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (Ktewm)

131
Last night and today was a real pisser. Dear old Dad (89), in an Ambien induced stupor, managed to fall and break his hip.

He'd been slightly sick and was more than slightly cantankerous. I got over there and tried to keep watch on him. He wouldn't stay still, and me with this damned RA, I couldn't manhandle him which is what was needed.

Well, I thought he was going to finally sleep on the couch, relaxed, and bam! he was up like a shot and fell right on the floor. Then he was in some real pain.

Hip was broken. Surgery tomorrow. Sometime, yet unknown. At 89, this is not good at all. This is likely the beginning of the end, I'm afraid to say.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (8O3HH)

132 All those celebrities who did a tv telethon for hurricane victims to solicit money from people who make far far less than they do...can go scratch. I'll change the channel, I'm so sick of virtue signalling. Know what I'd watch? I'd watch a half hour of those scumbags sitting down and writing a personal check for 100 large each out of their millions.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:46 PM (11H2y)

133

Remember the Dave Chappelle skit where he is a black blind klanner?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (t3kPl)

134 Maybe next time we have a movie thread, those of us who actually want to talk about movies can post on the old thread right under the movie thread, hopefully.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (XlF/h)

135 Insomniac: no, I meant it as literal.
Yup, some guys are starved for real affection from women.

Publius, sorry to hear. Prayers.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (eMKNe)

136 really? Because no Patrick Warburton. Is the writing better? The production? I've seen a few ads for the new Tick and all I thought is, "eh, that dude is not Patrick Warburton." it threw me off. Tell me it's worth checking out.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:42 PM (T/7Cm)

--I think it's faithful to the first (live, not animated).

Although it's on Prime, it's not profane (the f-bombs are IMO very strategically placed).

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

137 mnw: next week!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:48 PM (eMKNe)

138 72 Earlier today, on MH's excellent Pet Thread, there was a link to this pic of an intrepid hunter. I've tried to ID the gun, but without luck. Anyone recognize it for certain? There are a couple of clues, which, if not unique, at least narrow the field.

http://tinyurl.com/yaojd652

A little blurry to tell for sure, but it looks like a left handed Winchester Model 12.

Posted by: Agitator at September 23, 2017 10:48 PM (vqoM5)

139 It's not the women that are being exploited.

Poor men and their hormones.

K-ching!

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2017 10:48 PM (UnDQI)

140 I'm sorry to hear that, publius.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:48 PM (sdi6R)

141 In '78 I was building a strip mall in Oceanside. I think they ONLY had strip bars. I found it sad.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 23, 2017 10:49 PM (w7U7L)

142 that is one angry sounding song
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (Ktewm)

That's the best kind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6pvII1eFU

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:49 PM (mknWS)

143 That's one hell of a custody dispute-Not only do you kill your ex wife but seven other people too-and now the kids have no mother and a father who will be in jail for the rest of his life.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 10:50 PM (iVOAv)

144 All those celebrities who did a tv telethon for hurricane victims to solicit money from people who make far far less than they do...can go scratch. I'll change the channel, I'm so sick of virtue signalling. Know what I'd watch? I'd watch a half hour of those scumbags sitting down and writing a personal check for 100 large each out of their millions.
Posted by: vivi

Also, as Rush pointed out, those celebrities with their all-networks telethon only raise about 900k more than a Houston Texans player did with a single tweet to a GoFundMe.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:50 PM (I11+c)

145 Charles: well, Oceanside is Marinetown, from everything I've heard.

Walking distance from Camp Pendleton.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 10:50 PM (eMKNe)

146 129 Stevie Wonder took a knee for some "benefit" concert tonight

1. I wonder if he would pay for his own concert security since cops are so "racist"

2. I wonder how he knows for sure that he's black
Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (eh0Va)

--Politically incorrect joke my dad tells:

Q: Why is Stevie Wonder always smiling?

A: No one's told him he's black.

*Cringing*

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:50 PM (GsAUU)

147 I love the hunter picture in the gardening thread.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 10:51 PM (sdi6R)

148 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (8O3HH

Sorry about your dad, publius.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 10:52 PM (iVOAv)

149 134 Maybe next time we have a movie thread, those of us who actually want to talk about movies can post on the old thread right under the movie thread, hopefully.
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (XlF/h)

--That thread was overwhelmingly mash-ups of movie titles.

Is that your complaint?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:52 PM (GsAUU)

150 Hip was broken. Surgery tomorrow. Sometime, yet unknown. At 89, this is not good at all. This is likely the beginning of the end, I'm afraid to say.
Posted by: publius
----------------

Thoughts and prayers. It's rough, very rough, but caring for aged parents is one of the reasons that we are here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 10:52 PM (7Cr6v)

151 Robert, that second one is making my headache come back...

Something different https://youtu.be/fO96ThuWkbo

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:52 PM (Ktewm)

152
So what is it with all these wildly rich one-percenters taking a knee? Do they think that somehow I'm going to feel ashamed of all my white privilege (!) and run out to vote Democrat?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (VdSmz)

153 that is one angry sounding song
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (Ktewm)

That's the best kind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6pvII1eFU
Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live

I'll see that and raise you
https://youtu.be/E929gqIcwwI

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (I11+c)

154 LOL. The gate at Pendleton is less than a mile from town. From the gate, it's a long walk to anywhere on the base.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (UnDQI)

155 144 - you are right!. And I saw a photo of that player. OMG. Handsome inside and out.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (11H2y)

156
Thanks everyone. I'm going to have to hit the sack, 'cause tomorrow's gonna be a long one, I'm sure.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

157 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (8O3HH)

Sheesh. Prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:54 PM (T/7Cm)

158 155 144 - you are right!. And I saw a photo of that player. OMG. Handsome inside and out.
Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (11H2y)

--J.J. Watt is a good guy. His little brother T.J. also.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:55 PM (GsAUU)

159 Prayers up, Publius. Good luck. Make sure you eat something tomorrow.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:56 PM (11H2y)

160 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (8O3HH)

Gotta hand it to your old man, he's got some spirit!

Do what I do with my mom. I'm always threatening we're gonna do like what they do with all the old celebrities in Futurama and put her head in a jar feeding her fish food for eternity.

Here's hoping the surgery goes smoothly.

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 10:56 PM (mknWS)

161 I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard. I was worried I might lose moron status, but then thought about some Harvard grad politicians and recent SJW cringe and figured I was safe. If any of you morons have recommendations on things for me to do after class is done, I'm all ears. I'd like to try some fishing, but that may be a bridge too far with class ending around 4 every day.

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (Ht4YA)

162 Stevie Wonder is no spring chicken. He could actually get up after "taking a knee? Who came up with this stupid gesture anyway?. It either looks like they're doing a prayer-such as in the case of the religiously devout football player (name escapes me)r who now does baseball or that they're paying homage to a king-who's the king-the white football club owner?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (iVOAv)

163 My favorite bolt gun is an Enfield Mark 4 that I had rechambered to 308. Fastest cycling bolt action I have ever used (I have a Springfield 03 and a Mauser 9 and it produces tight groups out to 400 yards (the last target site) at the local range. It is heavy which means recoil is mild. Same goes for the Mauser which is the slowest bolt cycle of the 3.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (DoZ9m)

164
Publius, take care of your dad but take care of yourself too.

I once told Her Majesty that if I landed in the hospital her priorities were: 1) the dogs, 2) herself, 3) me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (6d7HA)

165 Heroes is my favorite Bowie tune.

I think its Boy Franpsycho's favorite song. He plays it several times a day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2017 10:58 PM (EZebt)

166 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear

Thoughts and prayers man.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:59 PM (I11+c)

167 Hip was broken. Surgery tomorrow. Sometime, yet unknown. At 89, this is not good at all. This is likely the beginning of the end, I'm afraid to say.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (8O3HH)

That really sucks. Here's hoping for the best possible outcome.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:00 PM (NWiLs)

168 >>>Remember the Dave Chappelle skit where he is a black blind klanner?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2017 10:47 PM (t3kPl)<<<


After he found out he was black he left his wife because she was an n-word lover.


That show was hilarious.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 11:00 PM (x9oEV)

169 161 I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard. I was worried I might lose moron status, but then thought about some Harvard grad politicians and recent SJW cringe and figured I was safe. If any of you morons have recommendations on things for me to do after class is done, I'm all ears. I'd like to try some fishing, but that may be a bridge too far with class ending around 4 every day.
Posted by: Grimaldi at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (Ht4YA)

--Crap, I have not been there since 2011. Mt. Auburn Cemetery is cool, but only at daytime. Isabella Studart Gardner Museum?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:01 PM (GsAUU)

170
I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard.

Tasty Burger in Harvard SQ makes a really good burger.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 11:01 PM (IW5NJ)

171 A little blurry to tell for sure, but it looks like a left handed Winchester Model 12.
Posted by: Agitator
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Yeah, a better picture would help, but I'm buying your Model 12 call.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:01 PM (7Cr6v)

172 It either looks like they're doing a prayer-such as in the case of the religiously devout football player (name escapes me)r who now does baseball or that they're paying homage to a king-who's the king-the white football club owner?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Tim Tebow is the name you're thinking of. And Christ is the King he's kneeling to.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:02 PM (I11+c)

173 Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:52 PM (Ktewm)

*Clicks link*

*Blinks*

*Blinks*

*Blinks*

*Downs the rest of his wine glass*

*Goes to bed*

Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live at September 23, 2017 11:02 PM (mknWS)

174

Maybe you can take a walk along Memorial Drive and look at the river.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 11:03 PM (IW5NJ)

175 Yup, some guys are starved for real affection from women.



I'd cross out the word "real" if I could.

Anyway, you could take a dance class & I would think women would be looking for a dance partner. Just ask before enrolling; or ask to observe a class.

That's fun & affection & contact...and real. qdpsteve has talked about taking a class...smart guy.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:03 PM (I0I+D)

176 Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:02 PM (I11+c)

Yes, I knew that-about who he was paying homage to.i just forgot his name . :^) The 'taking the knee" by the black football players has nothing to do with Christ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (iVOAv)

177 Don't be surprised, MLB, if we also start 'taking a knee'. So sorry about the financiial implications.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (H0quv)

178 Grimaldi - the Museum of Fine Arts is a lovely place.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (11H2y)

179 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (IcT7t)

180 172 It either looks like they're doing a prayer-such as in the case of the religiously devout football player (name escapes me)r who now does baseball or that they're paying homage to a king-who's the king-the white football club owner?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Tim Tebow is the name you're thinking of. And Christ is the King he's kneeling to.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:02 PM (I11+c)

--Derek Carr has a tat on one of his wrists that is a chi-rho (Greek initials for Christ the King). I am a Chiefs fan, but also a Carr fan.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:05 PM (GsAUU)

181 I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard. I was worried I might lose moron status, ...
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Handbook says that only a post-visit delousing is called for. You'll be good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:05 PM (7Cr6v)

182 To whom he is kneeling.
Sorry.
Sorry everybody.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:05 PM (I11+c)

183 They are taking a knee because the black power fist salute would give them away.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 11:05 PM (Ktewm)

184 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (iVOAv)

Didn't forget Christ's name :^)-Just Tim Tebows

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:05 PM (iVOAv)

185
Yes, I knew that-about who he was paying homage to.i just forgot his name . :^) The 'taking the knee" by the black football players has nothing to do with Christ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:04 PM (iVOAv)

--Not a big Tebow fan, but I am grateful that Tebowing got rid of planking.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:06 PM (GsAUU)

186 Hey this is BillC from Vegas. GNAMM was great. Awesome people. I will have to ask my friend who was a Vegas stripper if this is true. Not to brag but I had a few dates with two strippers. The whole thing about some being from bad backgrounds and some not is true. The most interesting guy I met was a house mother at the Admiral theater in Chicago. He told me it was possible to become inured to the sight of boobs.

Posted by: BillC at September 23, 2017 11:06 PM (HqPBH)

187 recommendations on things for me to do after class is done
Shooting spree???

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:06 PM (mJ8mX)

188 153 that is one angry sounding song
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 10:45 PM (Ktewm)

That's the best kind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6pvII1eFU
Posted by: Robert must be an Amazon Prime member to live

I'll see that and raise you
https://youtu.be/E929gqIcwwI
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 10:53 PM (I11+c)

\m/ \m/

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:07 PM (NWiLs)

189 I'd like to try some fishing, but that may be a bridge too far with class ending around 4 every day.

Do you have a car? Did you bring fishing gear? Fly or spin?

You have some stuff really close. Wollaston Beach in Quincy, mouth of Black's Creek .

The canal has been hot this year. All of the Cape is worth fishing, it has a Bay, a Sound, and an Ocean side with access everywhere.

Your best striped bass fishing is at night anyway. You weren't worried about sleep were you?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 11:07 PM (gIRsn)

190 161 I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard. I was worried I might lose moron status, but then thought about some Harvard grad politicians and recent SJW cringe and figured I was safe. If any of you morons have recommendations on things for me to do after class is done, I'm all ears. I'd like to try some fishing, but that may be a bridge too far with class ending around 4 every day.
Posted by: Grimaldi at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (Ht4YA)

--Also, if you're lucky you can catch a Bruins game.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:07 PM (GsAUU)

191 138 72 Earlier today, on MH's excellent Pet Thread, there was a link to this pic of an intrepid hunter. I've tried to ID the gun, but without luck. Anyone recognize it for certain? There are a couple of clues, which, if not unique, at least narrow the field.

http://tinyurl.com/yaojd652

A little blurry to tell for sure, but it looks like a left handed Winchester Model 12.


I was also about to say Model 12 or possibly 1200. Looks like the bolt may have the characteristic M-12 beveled corner. However -- and I'm certainly no expert -- but I have never heard of a left-handed M-12. Does such a thing actually exist? Seems more likely that the image has been flipped. I tried to see if the logo on the cap would tell but couldn't due to the lack of resoution in the image. A quick bing only found this not very definitive answer:

http://tinyurl.com/y9pqnvo5.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (7oUUT)

192

Doesn't the Charles have fishs in it?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (IW5NJ)

193 He told me it was possible to become inured to the sight of boobs.
Posted by: BillC at September 23, 2017 11:06 PM (HqPBH)

I'm completely inured to the sight of them. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (iVOAv)

194 well, it's been fun, everyone - that movie title mashup was a scream...but I've got to call it a night. Goodnight all. Prayers up for those who need.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (11H2y)

195 . If any of you morons have recommendations on things for me to do after class is done, I'm all ears
___
Boston has a lot to do - are you there through next weekend or just the week? What do you like to do?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (aZq03)

196 175 Yup, some guys are starved for real affection from women.



I'd cross out the word "real" if I could.


What do you mean?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (NWiLs)

197 This PSU/Iowa game is going down to the last play.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2017 11:09 PM (HCqAo)

198
Maybe you can take a walk along Memorial Drive and look at the river.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I love that dirty water
http://tinyurl.com/yd45ms7w

Posted by: The Standells at September 23, 2017 11:09 PM (7Cr6v)

199 the religiously devout football player (name escapes me)r who now does baseball or that they're paying homage to a king-who's the king-the white football club owner?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 10:57 PM (iVOAv

Tim Tebow. from all accounts, a truly devout Christian, which makes him the guy we can all point at and laugh.

As for kneeling, I think these SJW types just don't get it. I grew up Catholic, and genuflection was a way of acknowledging that you were in the presence of the Lord. It was not an act of defiance. it was an honest, humble request to be a part of the majesty.

I say this as a very shaky, doubtful Christian.

Except for the part where the SJWs don't get it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:09 PM (T/7Cm)

200 Now a few asshole owners(including Mara of the Giants,cunt),again decrying his "divisive" comments.These assholes love that word.Stupid,highly paid players showing disrespect towards their country is apparently not divisive.I am done with these fucks,

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2017 11:10 PM (rmVvL)

201 >>>Doesn't the Charles have fishs in it?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (IW5NJ)<<<





We're sleeping with them.

Posted by: some Bahston gangstahs at September 23, 2017 11:10 PM (x9oEV)

202 I think the kneeling is a reference to the "hands up; don't shoot" lie, Pug.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:10 PM (mJ8mX)

203 And Mara,your team sucks donkey dick.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2017 11:10 PM (rmVvL)

204 Oh, and Island Creek Oyster Bar.

https://www.islandcreekoysterbar.com/

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:11 PM (GsAUU)

205 TOUCHDOWN PENN STATE!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at September 23, 2017 11:11 PM (gIRsn)

206 And a last second TD for Penn State. The Nittany Lions win. What a game!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2017 11:12 PM (HCqAo)

207 Gosh, if you had a whole team taking knees, you could bring in Tim Tebow to lead them in that moment of prayerful, or prayer-like, activity, and just announce it as you announce the singer of the anthem. And of course they would be, how do they say, "down with that," right.

O you could have a lot of fun with this procedure, in several ways.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 23, 2017 11:12 PM (H5rtT)

208 So, a semi with 40K pounds of vodka aboard crashed here in NC.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (w+Jhj)

209 Tim Tebow. from all accounts, a truly devout Christian, which makes him the guy we can all point at and laugh.

Yes, he seems both devout and a nice guy. I don't laugh at him at all. With the other football playersi seems like a pointless gesture. Why not just hold up your middle finger or something?and NO I'm not saying I;d approve of that. Your normal person who wasn't paying attention would ask "Why do that and what does it have to do with the anthem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (iVOAv)

210 I went to Oregon Flock and Fiber Festival in Canby,OR today. I've attended it since they first started it. This was the first year I've seen openly lesbian couples. The lengths to which some women will go to make themselves look ugly is amazing.

Husband was giving me a bad time on the way out, "You mean you let lesbians knit?" I feel certain someone overheard him as we drove away and now thinks the place was infested with homophobes.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (Lqy/e)

211 Fooking Chevy ads. I imagine what Mahk thinks, just to alleviate the shallow douchiness of these fooking stupid Chevy ads.

Mahk really hates Chevy.

As do I.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (T/7Cm)

212 Caturday video

https://youtu.be/O8nXm2OmEqQ

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (pvjTE)

213 So, a semi with 40K pounds of vodka aboard crashed here in NC.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Got a latitude and longitude?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:15 PM (7Cr6v)

214 196 175 Yup, some guys are starved for real affection from women.



I'd cross out the word "real" if I could.

What do you mean?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:08 PM (NWiLs)



Yea, I didn't realize until after I posted that did not make sense out of context. *sigh*

The original post was about strip clubs and men starved for real affection so that's why guys will go. I was trying, in my clumsy way, to say it wasn't real...the strip club stuff. That it was paid affection. I should have copied the whole post. Anyway, that's really all. Plus, as you all talked about, strip clubs are pretty toxic to the soul.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:15 PM (I0I+D)

215 213 So, a semi with 40K pounds of vodka aboard crashed here in NC.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Got a latitude and longitude?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:15 PM (7Cr6v)

--Seriously.

I'm too far away, though.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:16 PM (GsAUU)

216 So, a semi with 40K pounds of vodka aboard crashed here in NC.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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More interesting than bananas.

Posted by: Harry Chapin at September 23, 2017 11:16 PM (7Cr6v)

217 Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 23, 2017 11:12 PM (H5rtT)

Good idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:17 PM (iVOAv)

218 Asheville, have you implemented AOSHQ SOP for Major Vodka Events?
Posted by: rhomboid
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Have scrambled the troops, waiting to verify location.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:17 PM (7Cr6v)

219 Mahk really hates Chevy.

As do I.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

I'd like a Camaro but I can't afford the maintenance costs.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:17 PM (I11+c)

220 Kaeperdick spurred on this whole kneeling trend, because if he wasn't kneeling on the sidelines to draw attention to himself, his ass would have been riding the bench, right into obscurity.

He sucked, knew he sucked, knew people knew he sucked, and was destined for perpetual back-up duty.

Pretty sure he was banking on people being afraid to catch hell for firing him because "he's controversial" instead of being a shitty QB.

Oops, how's that working out on the unemployment line, d-bag?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 11:18 PM (x9oEV)

221 >>52
Rumor has it that the Morons who inhabit this Smart Military Blog know a
thing or two about guns. I took my 03 Springfield to the range today.
Amazing weapon. Action like butter. The ancients knew how to make a
machine. Not a weapon I would want in a firefight. Holy Hell- heavy and
my shoulder was sore after 20 rounds. I don't know how my grandfather
lugged that damn thing across Europe. Anyway the question- How do you
use the ladder sight? I get that it has 4 aiming notches. I had pretty
good grouping with the battle sight, and peep sight set at 100yds. But
the ladder goes up to 2800 yds, I'm not trying to make shots that far,
but I'm not sure how I would get a sight picture with it set that high
unless I hold my head up high. It almost feels like shooting from the
hip. Is this right, or am I missing something. Google is full of
explanations of the parts of the sight, but not how to employ it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2017 10:14 PM (BoMuO)--------

Can't get a "good" sight picture with the ladder sight?
First, what kind of "sight picture" were you expecting with iron sights at extreme ranges, anyway?Second, are your sure you're not being confused by the barrel elevation angle and holding the rifle incorrectly?It's a bit like the snap-on plastic sight for the M203 on the M16 -- ignore the elevation angle and the unusual position of the weapon, and rely on the sights -- assuming the range is dialed in correctly....

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at September 23, 2017 11:18 PM (e9G8E)

222 Testing - interesting - I see Mike H. saw my comment long enough to respond to it (and quote it). This has happened before.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 11:22 PM (QDnY+)

223 "Handbook says that only a post-visit delousing is called for. You'll be good."

To be administered via The Barrel!

No car, although I'm sure i can get an Uber. These heavily urban areas always piss me off. I walked to a nice Thai restaurant called "Brown Sugar" (I think). Only .6 miles from my hotel as the crow flies, but almost 30 minutes to walk to go around major roadways and traffic. Thankfully, a nice homeless man begging cars for change redirected me from a dead end. Strange, sudden transformation of neighborhoods I walked through: run down area with what appeared to be European/Russian immigrants, then college students in apartments, then a shopping/restaurant area with a high percentage of Asians.

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 23, 2017 11:22 PM (Ht4YA)

224 The original post was about strip clubs and men starved for real affection so that's why guys will go. I was trying, in my clumsy way, to say it wasn't real...the strip club stuff. That it was paid affection. I should have copied the whole post. Anyway, that's really all. Plus, as you all talked about, strip clubs are pretty toxic to the soul.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:15 PM (I0I+D)

I see. I think that's just a reflection of the original point, that many men are so starved for affection they'll settle for insincere affection. That doesn't interest me as I can't compartmentalize to that level. It would just make me feel that much worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:23 PM (NWiLs)

225
Now a few asshole owners(including Mara of the Giants,cunt),again decrying his "divisive" comments.These assholes love that word.Stupid,highly paid players showing disrespect towards their country is apparently not divisive.I am done with these fucks,

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2017 11:10 PM (rmVvL)


You know what else is divisive? Forcing cities into building publicly-financed stadiums, then earn billions playing in them while paying a derisory rent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:23 PM (6d7HA)

226 "Got a latitude and longitude?

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

40 miles south of Raleigh on Hwy 70, from the article. It's already been unloaded though.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 11:23 PM (w+Jhj)

227 OT Football: While ago watched a high school football game on broadcast TV. It was like old times, there was no running commentary, the commentaters were not selling the game. Comments were one to three words occasionally except during time outs or replays.
Listeners and commentaters enjoyed the game together.

Turned the Notre Dame v Michigan State game off.
They _ w o u l d _ n o t _ s h u t _ u p.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 11:23 PM (ODr92)

228 40 miles south of Raleigh on Hwy 70, from the article. It's already been unloaded though.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
-----------

Yeah. Thursday apparently...and too far away. We need a better alert system.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:24 PM (7Cr6v)

229 I assume that they weren't playing the National Anthem at whatever thing Stevie wonder was at and as he wasn't doing it to genuflect the presence of Christ the Eucharist, it's just dumb.

P.S. God know if you're doing homage to Him or if you're some overpaid petulant footballer who is wee=wee'd up about the anthem

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2017 11:25 PM (iVOAv)

230 Rhomboid - you comment at 222 is sticking. Weird.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:26 PM (7Cr6v)

231 when all else fails, rely on CMP and the shooters there:

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=64134

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2017 11:26 PM (/7QQs)

232 "Yeah. Thursday apparently...and too far away. We need a better alert system.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

They have "Amber Alert" for kids, and "Grey Alert" for elderly. What would this be? "Everclear Alert"?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 11:27 PM (w+Jhj)

233 I come back to something someone posted on an earlier thread: if you or I made some overtly political statement at work, & broadcast the remark inside & outside the work place, how long would we have a job? What would YOUR employer do? Allow you to run off customers?

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 11:28 PM (XlF/h)

234 To summarize my disappeared comments, had my first up-close look at a B-1 today, nice chat with the crew. Also good talk with some Marine tankers, who've only ever fired practice rounds from their main gun except for the cannister round, for which there is no practice version (and the cannister is "fun"). There was an Ontos from the Pendleton mechanized museum - built a model of it as a kid, but have never seen one.

And the count of static display aircraft is noticeably down from previous years, the aerial act count down slightly. Skipped out before the F-35 demo, so I've still never seen one in flight. Would like to, before it's cancelled.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 11:28 PM (QDnY+)

235 40 miles south of Raleigh on Hwy 70, from the article. It's already been unloaded though.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

Steiner will come to relieve Major Vodka.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:28 PM (I11+c)

236 Beyond 400 yards ladder sights do not provide "sight accuracy". It is just lobbing bullets at the mass of infantry charging your position. Want accuracy beyond 400, get a scope.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 11:29 PM (DoZ9m)

237 BTW, Golden Years is my favorite Bowie song.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 11:31 PM (DoZ9m)

238 I'd like a Camaro but I can't afford the maintenance costs.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:17 PM (I11+c)

If I had the means, I would buy a Charger, or a Challenger.

Or even better, a Nissan Z.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:31 PM (T/7Cm)

239 Sean Spicier on the real reason the Warriors were disinvited to the White House:
https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/911362091059236864

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:31 PM (mJ8mX)

240 At 2800 yds., I'd be grateful to hit a double sheet of plywood half the time with M1903...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at September 23, 2017 11:32 PM (e9G8E)

241 >>Golden Years is my favorite Bowie song.


When I want Bowie, I turn to the Pinups album.

His Pretty Things covers are just awesome.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2017 11:33 PM (S2qP2)

242 >>At 2800 yds., I'd be grateful to hit a double sheet of plywood half the time with M1903...


I'd be happy knowing that whoever I was shooting at was actually aware that they were being shot at.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2017 11:34 PM (S2qP2)

243 Sean Spicier on the real reason the Warriors were disinvited to the White House:
https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/911362091059236864

Posted by: andycanuck

LOL

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:34 PM (I11+c)

244 Yes, I think the idea behind the long-range sights is to lay down covering fire in the area of some identifiable object known or suspected of sheltering the enemy like that house or this haystack, and not for aimed fire at individual enemy troops. Long range at massed troops I could see too although I don't know how often that would come up Korea aside.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:35 PM (mJ8mX)

245 rhomboid

I took my kids to see the Thunderbirds at Scott AFB this summer. I'd never seen them. Really an exciting event.

I think there was a B-1 there, but I don't recall that people were allowed inside it.

There was supposed to be an operational B-17 there, but it didn't get there because of mechanical trouble.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 11:35 PM (XlF/h)

246 220 Kaeperdick spurred on this whole kneeling trend, because if he wasn't kneeling on the sidelines to draw attention to himself, his ass would have been riding the bench, right into obscurity.

He sucked, knew he sucked, knew people knew he sucked, and was destined for perpetual back-up duty.

Pretty sure he was banking on people being afraid to catch hell for firing him because "he's controversial" instead of being a shitty QB.

Oops, how's that working out on the unemployment line, d-bag?
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 11:18 PM (x9oEV)


Honestly it worked out for him I think. Since I believe his worthless ass would have been cut/released last year if he hadn't done it. So he got another year of employment out of it.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 23, 2017 11:35 PM (c5LyF)

247
When at UCLA, Bill Walton showed up for practice one day with a full beard and insisted that as much facial hair as he wanted was his right. John Wooden didn't argue. He said, "I admire people who have strong beliefs and stick by them. Bill, we're all going to miss you."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:36 PM (6d7HA)

248 #244 Addendum: and not at the full 2,800 yards either.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:36 PM (mJ8mX)

249 There was an Ontos...
------------

Do you think they would consider an offer?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (7Cr6v)

250 Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:35 PM (mJ8mX)

It was a WWI concept as a mini artillery.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (ODr92)

251 It always comes down to Korea. Remember that and act accordingly.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (DoZ9m)

252 Ya know, now I can't remember if it was Colorado in Exile or qdpsteve who talked about dancing lessons. I get those 2 mixed up a lot for some reason.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (I0I+D)

253 "Divisive" = pointing out on a national stage what a bunch of people have been saying already but the shit heads of the media have refused to acknowledge and now they will be forced to.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (c5LyF)

254 I flew to Cambridge today for a week long course at Harvard.

Crossroads at the foot of the bridge to Boston. Cool mix of locals and students hang there.

Posted by: The Gimp at September 23, 2017 11:38 PM (jdWK0)

255 Wife continuing to binge on "Madame Secretary."

I'll sure be glad when it's done and I can again be in the same room with her.

The bits I overhear are bad enough.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 23, 2017 11:38 PM (G0zpR)

256 Long range at massed troops I could see too although I don't know how often that would come up Korea aside.
Posted by: andycanuck

It made sense in the context of WW1, since the main strategy seemed to be "climb out of your trenches and walk slowly towards the enemy".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:38 PM (I11+c)

257 >>>I come back to something someone posted on an
earlier thread: if you or I made some overtly political statement at
work, broadcast the remark inside outside the work place,
how long would we have a job? What would YOUR employer do? Allow you
to run off customers?
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 11:28 PM (XlF/h)<<<




Harbaugh (the coach of the Mich. Wolverines) for some reason decided to chime in and tell PDT to "check the Constitution".



Uhhh, pretty sure there's a lot of things the league bans players from doing or saying, or face penalties such as fines, suspensions, or possibly firing.



They can ban players from celebrating in the endzone. They can ban players from using Twitter during the games. They can ban them from wearing certain shoe color, or the Cowboys from wearing stickers honoring the murdered Dallas police officers.



They can sure as hell ban kneeling, and fine, suspend, fire those that won't listen.



They do a lot in the name of preventing "conduct unbecoming of the league" to protect their image. But Goodhell is a fucking clown, and won;t say a peep about this. Keep digging your hole, Roger.



Oh, look, October's coming, too. The pink ribbon crap will make everything better.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 23, 2017 11:39 PM (x9oEV)

258 Alex is the dancer.

He was one of Madonna's Backup Dancers on the Blonde Ambition Tour and before that, he was a Fly Girl on In Living Colour.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2017 11:39 PM (S2qP2)

259
"Divisive": refusing to eat the shit sandwich served by SJWs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:39 PM (6d7HA)

260 "I admire people who have strong beliefs and stick by them. Bill, we're all going to miss you."

Too funny. That's how you do it with style.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 11:41 PM (kuiuS)

261 At 2800 yards you're not going to have the slightest idea what you're trying to shoot at without optics.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:41 PM (NWiLs)

262 The leaf sights on my Mosins go up to what, 1,200 meters? (too lazy to get one out and look)

As colfax said, my understanding of such things was to be used as massed fire against distant concentrated infantry, sort of light artillery or indirect fire.

I have unusual tastes in these things, I'm only interested that my bolts (or my M1s) allow me to consistently hold torso-sized targets out to 150-200 yds under semi-realistic conditions (movement, cover, some rested, some off-hand). What they were made for.

And at least to me, that's as difficult as achieving groups of such-and-such a size in target mode. Though on Thursday the Mosin delivered acceptable results, even with my rough technique, and dirt-cheap Soviet surplus ammo.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 11:41 PM (QDnY+)

263 247 Hadrian

And after Wooden said that, Bill SHAVED his beard; paid a call on Sam Gilbert, and got a new Corvette! Everybody won.

(Joke; no offense to old Bruins)

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 11:41 PM (XlF/h)

264 "Divisive": refusing to eat the shit sandwich served by SJWs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

See also:
Problematic, controversial...

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:42 PM (I11+c)

265
Oh, look, October's coming, too.

Kneeling for the National Anthem: OK

Not wearing pink in October: Divisive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:42 PM (6d7HA)

266 Publius, prayers for dad's speedy and complete healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (EZebt)

267 Cracked has an actual interesting article for once;

http://www.cracked.com/article_25082_the-horrifying-easter-egg-everyone-missed-in-indiana-jones.html

The gist is that the the Holy Grail in Indiana Jones and Last Crusade was protected from Muslims specifically.

Now, the movie also established that Christianity is basically real. The Grail exists, it comes from a Jewish carpenter, and it grants eternal life. So why the fact that Crusaders would be wary of Muslims comes as a shock I don't know.

Of course this also sheds light on how much we've drifted in the last few years. I'm sure Indiana Jones and Last Crusade wouldn't be made by Hollywood liberals like Spielberg anymore...even though it wasn't considered to be politically questionable at the time.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (aZq03)

268 if you or I made some overtly political statement at
work, broadcast the remark inside outside the work place,
how long would we have a job?


I would be allowed to make overtly political statements. There'd be no problems. But they would have to be opposed to my actual beliefs.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (YXJ+5)

269 At 2800 yards you're not going to have the slightest idea what you're trying to shoot at without optics.
Posted by: Insomniac
--------------

Sure you would, *points*, Germany is over there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:44 PM (7Cr6v)

270 "Divisive": refusing to eat the shit sandwich served by SJWs.
***
4chan found the guy who sucker punched Richard Spencer. Turns out he has...scatological interests...so SJW shit sandwiches aren't just a euphemism.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:45 PM (aZq03)

271 To be fair, she doesn't like the shows I watch. Probably because many of them began before either of us was born.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 23, 2017 11:45 PM (G0zpR)

272 I almost wish I had stayed home today just so I could talk about Trump bitchslapping the NFL.

Posted by: josephistan at September 23, 2017 11:45 PM (ANIFC)

273 Sure you would, *points*, Germany is over there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 11:44 PM (7Cr6v)

Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:45 PM (NWiLs)

274 Sure you would, *points*, Germany is over there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Considering how suicidal they currently are, wouldn't shooting at them be redundant?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:47 PM (I11+c)

275 The SJWs in the comic world aren't just conspiring against the Diversity And Comics guy; they're hunting down all the comics professionals who followed his Youtube and they're harassing them too.

"Zack" from D&C says this is like a Mafia tactic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIWnub90BQ

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 11:48 PM (6FqZa)

276 So, this happened last month:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276381/#respond

First time since 1333. In the Catholic Church, many natives are restless with this "Kinder, Gentler" Pope.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 23, 2017 11:48 PM (17QyB)

277 Jed York, CEO of the San Francisco 49ers - Kaepernick's former team - said he would continue to support his players' "pursuit of positive change".

"The callous and offensive comments made by the President are contradictory to what this great country stands for," he said in a statement.
***
So wait a minute. Kaperdick and co believe that America is deeply racist and that cops routinely murder black people out of racist hate. If Kaperdick is right, what this country stands for is evil. If Kaperdick is wrong he is slandering innocent people.

There is no middle ground here.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:49 PM (aZq03)

278 Mike, the Ontos was incredibly small - remove the rifles and their frame-work, and probably smaller than a Suburban.

I believe the ammo is exhausted - those rounds have been used for avalanche mitigation for years (in Alaska for sure, I believe in CO and probably elsewhere in the west). Not sure what has replaced the recoilless for this purpose - but I know that duds were an issue (oh great, we're placing dangerous UXO all over recreational areas).


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 11:49 PM (QDnY+)

279 Kneeling for the National Anthem: OK

Not wearing pink in October: Divisive.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh



Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

You know, it's always something.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 23, 2017 11:49 PM (S6Pax)

280 Re "the pink ribbon crap":

Seriously, is there a widespread disease of which we're not already aware? This is just feel-good foolishness.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 23, 2017 11:50 PM (G0zpR)

281 You know what else is divisive? Forcing cities into building publicly-financed stadiums, then earn billions playing in them while paying a derisory rent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:23 PM (6d7HA)

--Read the Tuesday Morning Quarterback. Now it's at The Weekly Standard (yeah, Neo-Con Central). A perennial theme is NFL owners mooching facilities from municipalities. I am so glad that column is back after a two-year absence.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:50 PM (GsAUU)

282 Did you all read the NYPost article about how Obama is funding the resistance? Not that it is a shock to anybody here, but I was surprised at the details they had gleaned and printed.


Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:50 PM (I0I+D)

283 Not wearing pink in October: Divisive.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 11:42 PM (6d7HA)

As an artist of sorts, I've never likedt he color pink, because it's a natural color with white added.

Pastel. it's pastel.

Babbling, yes, we much. But Pink is now a Triggering (tm) color for me. And adjourning to my safe room is something that is required of me.

Was that passive enough? Deeper could myself be coerced into digging into.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:50 PM (T/7Cm)

284 First time since 1333. In the Catholic Church, many natives are restless with this "Kinder, Gentler" Pope.
***
Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:51 PM (aZq03)

285 280 Re "the pink ribbon crap":

Seriously, is there a widespread disease of which we're not already aware? This is just feel-good foolishness.
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 23, 2017 11:50 PM (G0zpR)

And for a form of cancer that far and away receives more funding than any other kind, no less.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 11:51 PM (NWiLs)

286 And when the NCAA came around to INVESTIGATE the new Corvette which Walton got, everybody involved said, "F you, NCAA! You ain't got no stinkin' subpoena power!"

1) The check is in the mail.

2) I'll only put it in a little way.

3) Wooden knew nothing. Sam who?

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 11:52 PM (XlF/h)

287 251 It always comes down to Korea. Remember that and act accordingly.
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 11:37 PM (DoZ9m)

--Jews hate Israel being treated as a tripwire for Armageddon.

Americans should think the same of our soldiers in Korea.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:52 PM (GsAUU)

288 Valid points about the WW1 trench aspects. I was going to mention the Germans using massed-troop movements very early in the war against the BEF but thought it was too narrow a time period to mention and hadn't thought of the trenches after tying into accurately shooting at an area rather than at individuals.

I don't know if the French used massed movements early on; I could see that as being a "Continental" thing contrasted with the BEF's more linear take that had been doctrine even in the musket era let alone after learning the lessons of the Boer/South African Wars.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 11:52 PM (mJ8mX)

289
Most excellent day. Finally had some range time post surgery, used the Woodsman and flat shot the 10 ring out of a target. It's like the difference between a regular tv and a hi-def flat screen, looking at things.

Bonus was we (older daughter) went to see "IT" afterward. Scary movie, not for the fainthearted. I had read the book much earlier, some parts followed the book really close, others just kinda. Point of interest, the ending credits mention chapter 1. Definitely one to see.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2017 11:52 PM (S/hVx)

290 Know the limits of your weapon and your limits with said waepon. Learn to reload to obtain the best from your weapon. It is not simple, and requires experimentation, but worth the effort. I reload 308, 30 ought 6., and 8mm, in addition to to 357/38. Know your weapon and yourself. Then you become confident in what you can achieve.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 11:53 PM (DoZ9m)

291 "Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me. "

Maybe next time around.

Posted by: The koolige of cardnals at September 23, 2017 11:53 PM (sf2BM)

292 First time since 1333. In the Catholic Church, many natives are restless with this "Kinder, Gentler" Pope.
***
Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me.
Posted by: 18-1

Maybe it's because I've had too many drinks, or maybe it's because I'm divisive, but I'm glad my ancestors fought to throw James II out of England so I don't have to concern myself with what some semiliterate, affirmative action half-a-fag has to say.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:55 PM (I11+c)

293 On an earlier thread I wondered about the owners and Goodell - well it is starting to seem the most logical explanation is the correct one. The owners are actually as stupid, and ignorant, and timid, and useless as much of the country, and (it seems) *most* of corporate America.

When confronted with stupid, vile, racist idiocy - this is actually being generous to the NFL players and others - they actually go along instead of squashing it.

Aha, you say, they're hanging themselves, look at their customer base, look at the NFL as the most overtly patriotic and even nationalist of the major sports leagues.

We'll see. Muh sports. Muh team. Country did not get where it is at the moment because it's populated by a majority of intelligent, informed, responsible people with anything resembling American values or mindset, historically speaking.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 11:56 PM (QDnY+)

294 291 "Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me. "

Maybe next time around.
Posted by: The koolige of cardnals at September 23, 2017 11:53 PM (sf2BM)

I truly miss John Paul II.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:56 PM (T/7Cm)

295 Of course this also sheds light on how much we've drifted in the last few years. I'm sure Indiana Jones and Last Crusade wouldn't be made by Hollywood liberals like Spielberg anymore...even though it wasn't considered to be politically questionable at the time.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (aZq03)

--Salah is still one of my favorite characters in any movie.

The actor who played him (and Gimli in LOTR) is not at all politically correct.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:58 PM (GsAUU)

296 294 291 "Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me. "

Maybe next time around.
Posted by: The koolige of cardnals at September 23, 2017 11:53 PM (sf2BM)

I truly miss John Paul II.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:56 PM (T/7Cm)


I miss Benedict, and he's still around!

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 23, 2017 11:58 PM (17QyB)

297 Here's the link. Basically, we are funding the groups fighting against us...and it was set us while Obama was still Prez. That guy really is a slithering, poisonous snake.

How Obama is funding the Anti-Trump resistance.

http://tinyurl.com/ycv8tt2w

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 11:59 PM (I0I+D)

298 I miss Benedict, and he's still around!
Posted by: Jeff Weimer

Ann Barnhardt and others argue that he is still Pope and that Frankie is an antipope.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:00 AM (I11+c)

299 There is no middle ground here.
Posted by: 18-1


Well, the very rich people that own major sports franchises apparently think there is. A lot of other people think that too.
The owners obviously are more afraid of the heckler's veto than a large fraction of the American public, and the President.
I get it that a lot of people just Don't Like Trump. They think they can get a lot of mileage out of dissing Trump.

Ha-ha, big joke.

We'll see, I guess.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 24, 2017 12:00 AM (S6Pax)

300 284 First time since 1333. In the Catholic Church, many natives are restless with this "Kinder, Gentler" Pope.
***
Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:51 PM (aZq03)

--As I've asked before, "Remember when 'Is the pope Catholic?' was just a rhetorical question?"

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:00 AM (GsAUU)

301 * up not us


Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 12:00 AM (I0I+D)

302 Definitely one to see.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2017 11:52 PM (S/hVx)

Do they finish off the alien spider with a pre-teen gangbang and train like the first IT?

I refuse to put a CENT in King's vile drug and alcohol whore brained pocket...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 12:04 AM (t3kPl)

303 I believe the ammo is exhausted -

Posted by: rhomboid
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I understand that ammo is still available in Syria.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:06 AM (58eZn)

304 Actually like that the stupid visits of champion teams to the WH will probably now end (at least for a while). It was a harmless bit of color only in a country mature and intelligent enough to handle it in the right spirit. With probably fewer than half the people living here American, in any historically meaningful sense, no room for such things.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:07 AM (QDnY+)

305 294 291 "Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me. "

Maybe next time around.
Posted by: The koolige of cardnals at September 23, 2017 11:53 PM (sf2BM)

I truly miss John Paul II.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 11:56 PM (T/7Cm)

He was a truly great man. And I'm no Catholic.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 12:07 AM (NWiLs)

306
trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:08 AM (/43JA)

307 Do they finish off the alien spider with a pre-teen gangbang and train like the first IT?

I refuse to put a CENT in King's vile drug and alcohol whore brained pocket...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits

Watch Stefan Molyneux's review to find out who the real Pennywise is.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:08 AM (I11+c)

308 Did I miss anything earth-shattering and not-to-be-missed between comment #100 and #275?

Because, you know, an AoSHQ meme can arise anywhere, anytime, without warning. Be prepared with Meme-Spritz™…

Posted by: mindful webworker's abrupt entrance at September 24, 2017 12:09 AM (d/5DH)

309 I turned on the Penn State/Iowa game just to see if the local news was coming on.. Holy shit! What a last 3 minutes! Un-freaking-believable!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 24, 2017 12:10 AM (i2KAN)

310 As I've asked before, "Remember when 'Is the pope Catholic?' was just a rhetorical question?"
Posted by: logprof
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Ah, yes, the good old days, when even Dem Presidents placed the interests of the Republic ahead of their political philosophy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:10 AM (58eZn)

311 So, just reading a Yahoo Sports article (no idea why) about the "brave" NFL owners who "stood up to" PDT's comments.

Here's the list of shitheels: John Mara and Steve Tisch of the New York Giants, Stephen Ross of the Miami Dolphins, Arthur Blank of the Atlanta Falcons, Mark Murphy of the Green Bay Packers, Jed York of the San Francisco 49ers, and Amy Adams Strunk of the Tennessee TItans.

The last paragraph included this --

Currently, none of the eight owners who are known to have donated $1 million each to Trump's inauguration - Robert Kraft of the Patriots, Woody Johnson of the Jets (who was Trump's appointee as ambassador to the United Kingdom), Ed Glazer of Tampa Bay, Shahid Khan of the Jaguars, Stan Kroenke of the Rams, Bob McNair of the Texans, the Cowboys' Jerry Jones or Washington's Daniel Snyder - have released statements, though obviously they are not alone, as there are 18 others who also have not weighed in.

Was just looking at that last list of obvious white supremacist klansme... hey... wait... Shahid Khan of the Jaguars?!

He's going to get pummeled by the SJW mob.



PS - Glad to see Jerry Jones (owner of my favorite team) and Bob Kraft (owner of my home team) make the list of good guys.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (x9oEV)

312 Ann Barnhardt and others argue that he is still Pope and that Frankie is an antipope.

Unfortunately Benedict / Ratzinger has said nothing against the Frankie-Goes-To-Hollywood Papacy.

Wish I knew why Raztinger accepted the job in the first place. Did he foresee that he was going to be succeeded by a nincompoop?

Maybe his plan was to sit in the chair for a few years, then let an antipope sit there, wait for him to keel over or get impeached for heresy, and then come back and pretend the antipope didn't happen and that all his papal proclamations are, er, bull.

Sort of like what Jewish legend and the Qur'an say about Solomon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (6FqZa)

313 Mike, you mean like STG-44s were also available?

Wonder whatever happened to those. Think the reports said 5,000, unissued (surely Soviet 1945 captures later sent to Syria in the 60s/70s as military aid).

A good actual story, or a decent fictional one, could have been built around high-end arms collectors commissioning some former spec ops guys to go in and get those guns from amidst the chaos.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (QDnY+)

314 I miss Benedict, and he's still around!
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 23, 2017 11:58 PM (17QyB)

This too.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (T/7Cm)

315 This chick on ASL and her band, Florence + the Machine. Yecch. A shouty warbler.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (58eZn)

316 At 2800 yards you're not going to have the slightest idea what you're trying to shoot at without optics.
Posted by: Insomniac
+++

the fuck you say

Posted by: The Broad Side of a Barn at September 24, 2017 12:12 AM (/43JA)

317 I'm (lapsed) Catholic, baptized and confirmed at 12, so it didn't completely stick. However, I'm sick at the undermining of dogma and, well, sense this Pope seems intent on promulgating. Is it another case, like the NFL, and Comics, and other lesser endeavors; that The Church is trying to expand it's membership by appealing to those outside it but alienating the existing core by apparently taking it for granted?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 24, 2017 12:12 AM (17QyB)

318 That kind of sounds like sixth dimensional chess though.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:12 AM (6FqZa)

319 The gist is that the the Holy Grail in Indiana Jones and Last Crusade was protected from Muslims specifically.


well they were crusader knights defending it

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:14 AM (/43JA)

320 Our country is too stupid and political to have the champs from the major sport leagues at the WH.

Just end the practice. Like most give a fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 24, 2017 12:14 AM (89T5c)

321 PS - Glad to see Jerry Jones (owner of my favorite team) and Bob Kraft (owner of my home team) make the list of good guys.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin

I don't know her politics, I'm just glad Virginia McCaskey is too old to know what the twitters is.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:15 AM (I11+c)

322 Woof.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 24, 2017 12:15 AM (J2oJa)

323 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at September 24, 2017 12:16 AM (J2oJa)

324 "Wish I knew why Raztinger accepted the job in the first place. Did he foresee that he was going to be succeeded by a nincompoop?"

He's a nincompope?

Wait till the next one. She's a real doozy.

Posted by: The koolige of cardnals at September 24, 2017 12:16 AM (sf2BM)

325 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?
Posted by: Sheriff Bart
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Vegas

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:16 AM (58eZn)

326 Vegas. Is that near Rock Ridge?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at September 24, 2017 12:17 AM (J2oJa)

327 284 I strongly believe that the head od the Catholic Church should be a Christian. But don't get me started...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM (w7U7L)

328 Oh, a girl pope's next? Maybe she can take the name Joan II.

Hey why not. But only if it's alexthechick.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM (6FqZa)

329 When, exactly, did warbling become a desired quality among female singers? I mean, can we do something about it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM (58eZn)

330 Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 24, 2017 12:12 AM (17QyB)

I mean, this Pope was installed by the Cardinals for a reason. What is it? Is it to evangelize? Is it to soften the impression that The Church is too rigid and dogmatic over politically sensitive social issues and that's keeping us from attracting and keeping The Flock?

Vatican II did a lot of good things (Mass in local language for one), but sometimes I think it went too far to encourage a too touchy-feely catechism.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 24, 2017 12:20 AM (17QyB)

331 >>>When, exactly, did warbling become a desired quality among female singers? I mean, can we do something about it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM (58eZn)<<<

Where's Prothonotary when you need him?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 24, 2017 12:22 AM (x9oEV)

332 bth, popes can only be removed for heresies on dogma, right? Not other crap - such as the current pope is beclowning himself with?

I should know something about this, but don't.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:22 AM (QDnY+)

333 anyone have snow yet?

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:22 AM (/43JA)

334 292 First time since 1333. In the Catholic Church, many natives are restless with this "Kinder, Gentler" Pope.
***
Call me crazy, but I strongly believe the head of the Catholic Church should actually be a Catholic, but that's just me.
Posted by: 18-1

Maybe it's because I've had too many drinks, or maybe it's because I'm divisive, but I'm glad my ancestors fought to throw James II out of England so I don't have to concern myself with what some semiliterate, affirmative action half-a-fag has to say.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 11:55 PM (I11+c)


I don't know. Not as if the Church of England is really any better with its liberalism worship.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:24 AM (c5LyF)

335 jake, we got a cold rain but no snow.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:24 AM (6FqZa)

336 >>>anyone have snow yet?

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:22 AM (/43JA)<<<

Yes.

Posted by: Daenerys Targaryen at September 24, 2017 12:24 AM (x9oEV)

337 jake, I saw somewhere that the Sierra Nevada had some early snow already. Not sure where, or the elevation. Probably Bodie State Park, often the coldest spot in CONUS, even in winter.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:25 AM (QDnY+)

338 333 anyone have snow yet?
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:22 AM (/43JA)


It's 90 fuckng degrees out during the day. What do you think?

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:25 AM (c5LyF)

339
Hey why not. But only if it's alexthechick.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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Will she have the power to issue Indulgences? Because, I could get behind that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:27 AM (58eZn)

340 rhomboid: the Tabernash / Granby / Winter Park valley up the mountain in this state often gets credited as "the icebox".

Beautiful scenery but FUCK IT'S COLD in a couple weeks of January.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:28 AM (6FqZa)

341 Reformed baptist here. We really don't have to worry about liberal theology, or actually liberal anything. We're actual Puritans, in the best sense possible...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 24, 2017 12:28 AM (w7U7L)

342 327 284 I strongly believe that the head od the Catholic Church should be a Christian. But dont get me started...
Posted by: Charles the Simple

**********

STFU, idiot.

Posted by: Pedro the Cruel at September 24, 2017 12:28 AM (J2oJa)

343 I don't know. Not as if the Church of England is really any better with its liberalism worship.
Posted by: Buzzion

It all goes back to clergymen being political appointees, a donor's overeducated, unemployable brother-in-law needs a job so make him a bishop. Her Majesty's personal Chaplin is the only person she appoints and is probably also the only C of E clergy that actually believes in God.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:28 AM (I11+c)

344 Actually was the most comfortable air show weather in a long time. Sep/Oct are the hottest months (though a dry heat, really) in San Diego. Today had a nice cool breeze (just right for the parachutists and light enough to not complicate the rotary-wing stuff), and puffy scenic clouds.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:29 AM (QDnY+)

345
Where's Prothonotary when you need him?

Throatwobbler Mangrove

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:29 AM (IqV8l)

346 327 Well, there's that...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 24, 2017 12:30 AM (w7U7L)

347 343 I don't know. Not as if the Church of England is really any better with its liberalism worship.
Posted by: Buzzion

It all goes back to clergymen being political appointees, a donor's overeducated, unemployable brother-in-law needs a job so make him a bishop. Her Majesty's personal Chaplin is the only person she appoints and is probably also the only C of E clergy that actually believes in God.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:28 AM (I11+c)


That'll change as soon as Charles the Tampon becomes king

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:30 AM (c5LyF)

348 Also, as a call back to the movie thread mash-up game: Cromwell That Ends Well.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:31 AM (I11+c)

349 When, exactly, did warbling become a desired quality among female singers? I mean, can we do something about it?


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM


I'm not sure. It does seem to be a relatively recent trend. It reeks of "style" over substance and is used way too much, to the point where it seems like it's what they're actually showcasing... their "amazing voice" as in their range and how many times they can shift in a couple of bars... rather than the song and it's execution. Here's a word of advice singers- If that is your selling point, it's a shit song and the warbling won't disguise it. Enhance the song, don't use it as an excuse to show off your fluttering technique.

Posted by: otho at September 24, 2017 12:31 AM (qGuLD)

350 52 ... How do you use the ladder sight? ...
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Back then (WW I), armies still did massed rifle fires by entire units (platoon or company) to engage area targets.

When you are shooting waaaay out there, you are essentially pointing in a direction and using the sight to elevate the piece to get the range desired. The soldiers might be told to basically "aim at that hill, 2000 yards".

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 24, 2017 12:32 AM (di1hb)

351
The Man Who Would Be King of the Popes

https://youtu.be/L2xWQr4VaUA

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:33 AM (IqV8l)

352 Wasn't there an Arabian ruler called 'Abdul the Bad'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:33 AM (58eZn)

353 I'm wondering how the police and military feel about what Trump said? I wonder if they feel as if someone is finally expressing their viewpoint about these clowns in the NFL?

I've read other letters from individuals, but Trump is a whole other level.

Just musing about it all.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 12:33 AM (I0I+D)

354 When confronted with stupid, vile, racist idiocy - this is actually being generous to the NFL players and others - they actually go along instead of squashing it.

Acquiescence is a beautiful thing.

Posted by: GOPe at September 24, 2017 12:34 AM (Sv2/X)

355 I think Mariah Carey was bad about the warbling. And they went nuts after her.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:35 AM (c5LyF)

356 bth, you torment me - Devil's Thumb, next to Tabernash, is my favorite x-country ski area (and apart from exposed skin on windy/frigid days, there is no such thing as being cold while x-country skiing).

Used to go there every year (visited a friend in your town as part of the trip). My most epic winter drive story, one of a few cars behind a snow-plow (road was closed just behind us) going up over Berthoud Pass in a blizzard. Friend's borrowed car - defroster didn't work, so that added to the excitement.

But coldest was up in Quebec (of course), and Vermont, one time (skied at 5 degrees - no wind - snow squeaked in a funny way).


Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:35 AM (QDnY+)

357 PS - Glad to see Jerry Jones (owner of my favorite team) and Bob Kraft (owner of my home team) make the list of good guys.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 24, 2017 12:11 AM (x9oEV)

--Okay, I am not a Jerry "I want me some Glory Hole" Jones fan in general, but if he banked a mil to Trump, I'll roll.

It's known that Kraft, Belicheat, and Brady are on the Trump Train. When Kraft's wife died, DJT checked in on him frequently. They're tight.

I'm a Chiefs fan, and given the history of the Hunt brothers, I think they are on the Trump Train as well, if not for a mil.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:35 AM (GsAUU)

358 Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (aZq03)

Interesting, but desires a lot of set up, IMO.

How far to kneel, how long, orientation of cave/person ?

"movie also established" seems a bit off also.

Posted by: dDan at September 24, 2017 12:36 AM (hwYmz)

359 Wasn't there an Arabian ruler called 'Abdul the Bad'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:33 AM (58eZn)

**********

Abdul the Affirmative Action Hire

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 12:37 AM (J2oJa)

360 I saw somewhere that the Sierra Nevada had some early snow already.

Oddly cold here in the middle of the week. Yes, snow up in Tahoe.

Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 12:37 AM (7ulel)

361

I think some of the rifles used by the brits from 1870-1880 on had iron sights that went out to 2000 yards

Roarks Drift and all

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:38 AM (/43JA)

362 When, exactly, did warbling become a desired quality among female singers? I mean, can we do something about it?


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:18 AM


Vibrato? I guess it all depends on who's doing it and how they're doing it that might irk you. I don't know which singers you're referring to so I might be lucky in my ignorance.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:39 AM (8gDQu)

363 I think I'm trapped in a game of chess against my computer. It's a K+B+P endgame, and the pawn structure is blocked. I made a draw offer on move 48 which was declined. I tried again about a dozen moves later, and again it was declined.

I've spent the last 20 moves just moving my bishop between two squares. The only thing the computer can do is sacrifice its bishop for one of my pawns, which it has not yet done. But it refuses to agree to a draw. It's now the 69th move.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:39 AM (sdi6R)

364 Thanks for the Bowie.
If I spent less time working through the MeTube catalog of music I would have more time to hook up some better speakers. Just another quandary.

Posted by: klaftern at September 24, 2017 12:40 AM (RuIsu)

365 Wasn't there an Arabian ruler called 'Abdul the Bad'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:33 AM (58eZn)

**********

Abdul the Affirmative Action Hire
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

Not as famous as Habib from Technical Support.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 12:41 AM (I11+c)

366 probably more like Abdul the Baa-aa-ad.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:41 AM (6FqZa)

367 I think I'm trapped in a game of chess against my computer. It's a K+B+P endgame, and the pawn structure is blocked. I made a draw offer on move 48 which was declined. I tried again about a dozen moves later, and again it was declined.

I've spent the last 20 moves just moving my bishop between two squares. The only thing the computer can do is sacrifice its bishop for one of my pawns, which it has not yet done. But it refuses to agree to a draw. It's now the 69th move.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:39 AM (sdi6R)


I can hear your computer laughing at you all the way over here

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:41 AM (8gDQu)

368 Arisakas (not sure which model) had anti-aircraft sights. Kind of cool.

The grenade-launching sights for the M1 are interesting. Check out the Garand rifle-grenade videos from In Range TV on UTube. Darn clever and useful innovation, those rifle-grenades.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 12:42 AM (QDnY+)

369 That'll change as soon as Charles the Tampon becomes king



Oh, I remember thinking, that's his idea of romantic talk...or phone sex? I mean...so not either one of those. Most bizarre. No woman I know was turned on by that at all. Can't speak for men.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 12:42 AM (I0I+D)

370 anyone catch where moslems attacked 30 police stations in Myanmar and now they are working to remover the entire muzzie population back into Bangladesh (East Pakistan)



?

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:43 AM (/43JA)

371 >>>--Okay, I am not a Jerry "I want me some Glory Hole" Jones fan in general, but if he banked a mil to Trump, I'll roll.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:35 AM (GsAUU)<<<

Me neither. I'll be happy when he gets the hell out of the way, removes the idiot ginger clapping seal from the sidelines, and installs a no-nonsense ball-breaker coach.

Oh, and I think he was ok with extending Goodhell's commish deal, not long before the Elliott suspension shenanigans. **headdesk** That was stoopid Jerruh.

Posted by: Daenerys Targaryen at September 24, 2017 12:43 AM (x9oEV)

372 Ugh. Off Khaleesi sock!

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 24, 2017 12:44 AM (x9oEV)

373 Here's a link to Clay ("1st Amendment & Boobs") Travis's piece on Trump's speech:
https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/donald-trump-tees-off-nfl-protests/

I'm going to leave you now, and practice writing "Mrs Clay Travis" all over my unicorn notebook.

Posted by: Shopgirl at September 24, 2017 12:45 AM (N6TKa)

374 and again it was declined.
-------------

Might as well get used to it. Wait until you have to negotiate with a Googlemobile.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:45 AM (58eZn)

375 363 I think I'm trapped in a game of chess against my computer. It's a K+B+P endgame, and the pawn structure is blocked. I made a draw offer on move 48 which was declined. I tried again about a dozen moves later, and again it was declined.

I've spent the last 20 moves just moving my bishop between two squares. The only thing the computer can do is sacrifice its bishop for one of my pawns, which it has not yet done. But it refuses to agree to a draw. It's now the 69th move.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:39 AM (sdi6R)


Why don't you submit the notation to Oregon muse for one f next week's problems and see if anyone can suggest a victory solution for you.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:45 AM (c5LyF)

376 The computer is one pawn up, but my king is blocking it and it cannot be dislodged. For the last 30 moves I've just been moving my bishop between d2 and e3. The computer has been moving its king and bishop all over the place trying to find a breakthrough. It refuses to quit.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:45 AM (sdi6R)

377 This game is an obvious draw but the computer refuses to accept it.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:46 AM (sdi6R)

378 Move 82. I suppose the computer will eventually reach a 3x repetition of position.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:47 AM (sdi6R)

379 It refuses to quit.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:45 AM (sdi6R)


The computer knows that it can keep playing forever and you'll eventually stop asking for a draw and just resign.

I've got $100 on the computer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:47 AM (8gDQu)

380 This game is an obvious draw but the computer refuses to accept it.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:46 AM (sdi6R)

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:47 AM (x9oEV)

381 (ignore the premature posting above)



You'll have to get up to pee sometime, human. Then I'll make my move.

Posted by: rickl's computer (waiting to cheat) at September 24, 2017 12:48 AM (x9oEV)

382 This game is an obvious draw but the computer refuses to accept it.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 24, 2017 12:48 AM (I11+c)

383 I suggest you destroy your computer. It obviously developed an artificial intelligence and wants you to forfeit so it can claim victory by "busting you up."

https://youtu.be/yIRT6xRQkf8

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 12:49 AM (c5LyF)

384 370 anyone catch where moslems attacked 30 police stations in Myanmar and now they are working to remover the entire muzzie population back into Bangladesh (East Pakistan)



?
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:43 AM (/43JA)

--On Fox News last night, much weeping over poor Muslims in Burma.

Yeah, their plight is unjust, but why the fuck aren't *Muslim* nations not ponying up to help them? Why should Christians give a fuck when Muslims the world over are oppressing othr Christians?

Yeah, I feel bad, but feelz is all I gotz.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:49 AM (GsAUU)

385 Move 88. I've now spent 40 moves just moving my bishop back and forth between the same two squares.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:49 AM (sdi6R)

386 x9oEV, that was actually a pretty funny meta-post given that rickl had noted that he was stuck in a loop.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:50 AM (6FqZa)

387 The grenade-launching sights for the M1 are interesting. Check out the Garand rifle-grenade videos from In Range TV on UTube. Darn clever and useful innovation, those rifle-grenades.
Posted by: rhomboid
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There were adapters for the M14 and M16 also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:50 AM (58eZn)

388 Move 88. I've now spent 40 moves just moving my bishop back and forth between the same two squares.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:49 AM (sdi6R)


Sure, I'll accept a draw ... but first, you will blow me.

Posted by: The Computer at September 24, 2017 12:50 AM (8gDQu)

389 Move 88. I've now spent 40 moves just moving my bishop back and forth between the same two squares.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:49 AM (sdi6R)




With your Right turn signal on. In the fast lane.

Dunno, just spitballin' here?



/snrk


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 24, 2017 12:51 AM (MGCfm)

390 This game is an obvious draw but the computer refuses to accept it.


Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:46 AM


Cheatin' bitch...

Posted by: r j macready at September 24, 2017 12:52 AM (qGuLD)

391 377 This game is an obvious draw but the computer refuses to accept it.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:46 AM (sdi6R)

**********

PRO TIP: Put Shatner on it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 12:52 AM (J2oJa)

392 The. Only. Winning. Move. Is. Not. To. Play.

Posted by: WOPR, rickl's computer at September 24, 2017 12:52 AM (x9oEV)

393 Move 94. Holy shit, it just moved a pawn, which I captured. I now have a passed pawn.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:52 AM (sdi6R)

394 Threaten it with a Win 10 install.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (58eZn)

395 Only pawns can queen, but I'd sure love it if my bishop could queen as well.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)

396 Only pawns can queen, but I'd sure love it if my bishop could queen as well.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)


With Pope Francis I'm pretty sure they can.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:54 AM (8gDQu)

397 It just called a draw by repetition on the 99th move!

That was a strange game.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 12:54 AM (sdi6R)

398 395 Only pawns can queen, but I'd sure love it if my bishop could queen as well.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)



I'll start allowing that next year.

Posted by: Pope Commie I at September 24, 2017 12:55 AM (c5LyF)

399 Only pawns can queen, but I'd sure love it if my bishop could queen as well.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)



>>>insert Mongo joke here



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 24, 2017 12:55 AM (MGCfm)

400 While you're moving your bishop back and forth, your computer is rifling thru your bank accounts.

Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 12:55 AM (7ulel)

401 396 Only pawns can queen, but I'd sure love it if my bishop could queen as well.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)

With Pope Francis I'm pretty sure they can.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:54 AM (8gDQu)

--

Ugggggggh

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:55 AM (GsAUU)

402
--On Fox News last night, much weeping over poor Muslims in Burma.

Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials

http://tinyurl.com/ya4h569s

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:56 AM (IqV8l)

403 HISHE, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

https://youtu.be/0qzxoUSrZuU

And the scene from the movie were the villain chooses, poorly.

https://youtu.be/A0TalLrtZ24

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2017 12:57 AM (rnAwa)

404 So, I guess everyone's in Vegas losing their shirts at the craps tables ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:57 AM (8gDQu)

405 267 Cracked has an actual interesting article for once;

http://www.cracked.com/article_25082_the-horrifying-easter-egg-everyone-missed-in-indiana-jones.html

The gist is that the the Holy Grail in Indiana Jones and Last Crusade was protected from Muslims specifically.
....

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2017 11:43 PM (aZq03)


That is subtle, but a very good point.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 24, 2017 12:57 AM (17QyB)

406 It just called a draw by repetition on the 99th move!

That was a strange game.
Posted by: rickl
--------------

Computer Science prof at Ga. Tech once told us, "The great thing about computers is that they don't drink beer or eat pizza. You can set them on a problem, turn off the lights and leave, then just check back the next morning."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:58 AM (58eZn)

407 Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials

cool!

will that first happen in the UK or Denmark first?

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:58 AM (/43JA)

408 Rickl, here's something else to spend your money on :-)

https://tinyurl.com/yb5azfyj

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 12:59 AM (eMKNe)

409 Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials
--------

This never happened when it was Burma.

Posted by: The British at September 24, 2017 01:00 AM (58eZn)

410 test

Posted by: test at September 24, 2017 01:00 AM (NpYjX)

411 Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 12:43 AM



What is happening in Mynamar is so sad. That country fought to become a democracy for 55 years. They were under military rule and headed toward being another North Korea, and then suddenly all their efforts bore fruit and they dramatically changed.

They are such a young democracy, and they have fought so hard, and the Buddhists don't want the Muslims there. Even though I think it was a peaceful sect - Rohanyi or something. But then there was vandalism of some sort & the whole thing combusted.

But the country Muslims have been pushed into doesn't want them either.

So you have this new democracy & President trying to get a handle on all this. Since solid democracies in the West can't handle the Islam multicultural problem, it's awfully hard to think how a new democracy can handle it.

I've such sympathy for the President. For the country. I don't think how the Muslims esp. women & children were treated was right. But I also understand a people who just won a democracy after a 55 year hell under military rule doesn't want to lose that. And they are seeing Western Europe dissolve.

30 police stations? I believe it. Since Sweden was welcoming & yet has some 55 no-go zones & have had to close police stations, it's not a stretch to imagine it.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:00 AM (I0I+D)

412 402
--On Fox News last night, much weeping over poor Muslims in Burma.

Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials

http://tinyurl.com/ya4h569s
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:56 AM (IqV8l)

--Coming to a Western nation near you.

Muslims "do not play well with others".

Most Burmese are Buddhist. Very hippie, not bellicose. I suspect there is some shit going on, and that the Musselmen there are not 100% innocent victims. After everything that's gone down since 9/11, I don't trust the MBM one iota about this shit.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:01 AM (GsAUU)

413 Computer Science prof at Ga. Tech once told us, "The great thing about computers is that they don't drink beer or eat pizza. You can set them on a problem, turn off the lights and leave, then just check back the next morning."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 12:58 AM (58eZn)


Yes, that's theoretically true. The problem is when you have a 12 hour process and set the program running ... only to come back the next morning and find out that your process crapped out at 6:32 into it for some totally unknown reason.

Those are the really fun times.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:02 AM (8gDQu)

414 QUIT SHUFFLING YOUR BISHOP.

Posted by: GOD. at September 24, 2017 01:03 AM (6FqZa)

415 Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials

http://tinyurl.com/ya4h569s
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

The genocide of muslims in Myanmar is sloppy and inefficient. I'd gladly manage it for them for the rank of Field Marshal with appropriate salary.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:04 AM (I11+c)

416 Vegas is great. Ate a lot of food. Put a lot of lead down range. Harvested a few hobo pelts.

Posted by: SpifftheSpaceman at September 24, 2017 01:04 AM (8I8E9)

417 414 QUIT SHUFFLING YOUR BISHOP.
Posted by: GOD. at September 24, 2017 01:03 AM (6FqZa)

--LMAO remember Remote Control on MTV (when it was good), when there was a game called Beat the Bishop?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:05 AM (GsAUU)

418
Yes, that's theoretically true. The problem is when you have a 12 hour process and set the program running ... only to come back the next morning and find out that your process crapped out at 6:32 into it for some totally unknown reason.

Those are the really fun times.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
----------------

Worse, you submit your punched cards, and when you pick up your listed 'output' two days later, you find that things got stuck in a loop, there is no output, and all of your allocated CPU time for the quarter got used up in the process.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (58eZn)

419 >>>I suspect there is some shit going on, and that
the Musselmen there are not 100% innocent victims. After everything
that's gone down since 9/11, I don't trust the MBM one iota about this
shit.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:01 AM (GsAUU)<<<

You don't say?




How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.





Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

Posted by: zombie Winston Churchill at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (x9oEV)

420 Even though I think it was a peaceful sect
.....

muzzies are never peacefull, the Rohanyi have been well documented raping and beheading the Buddhists for years

Bare Naked Islam has been posting these pictures for years

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (/43JA)

421 I also want full liberty to design the Myanmarese(?) uniforms.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:07 AM (I11+c)

422 415 Torching of Rohingya villages continues in Myanmar despite denials

http://tinyurl.com/ya4h569s
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

The genocide of muslims in Myanmar is sloppy and inefficient. I'd gladly manage it for them for the rank of Field Marshal with appropriate salary.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:04 AM (I11+c)

--No need for genocide.

Just expel them to Bangladesh.

Their religion is so fucking awesome, they should enjoy it in a majority-Muslim nation.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:07 AM (GsAUU)

423 404 So, I guess everyone's in Vegas losing their shirts at the craps tables ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:57 AM (8gDQu)

**********

And with no pants for backup.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 01:08 AM (J2oJa)

424 So, I guess everyone's in Vegas losing their shirts at the craps tables ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 12:57 AM (8gDQu)

**********

And with no pants for backup.
Posted by: Cicero
--------------

Our chaps would never lose their shirts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:09 AM (58eZn)

425 I really don't give a shit about Muslims. Anywhere. The sooner they're wiped off the planet the better.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:09 AM (sdi6R)

426 >>>Our chaps would never lose their shirts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:09 AM (58eZn)<<<

The guys will get them back.

Posted by: Paul Anka at September 24, 2017 01:10 AM (x9oEV)

427 No need for genocide.
Posted by: logprof

I beg to differ.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:10 AM (I11+c)

428 Worse, you submit your punched cards, and when you pick up your listed 'output' two days later, you find that things got stuck in a loop, there is no output, and all of your allocated CPU time for the quarter got used up in the process.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (58eZn)


That's when you call the guys at East Anglia to just make up the "correct" output for you.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:10 AM (8gDQu)

429 muzzies are never peacefull, the Rohanyi have been well documented raping and beheading the Buddhists for years

Bare Naked Islam has been posting these pictures for years
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (/43JA)

-- +1

Taqqiya, taqqiya, taqqiya

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:10 AM (GsAUU)

430 I really don't give a shit about Muslims. Anywhere. The sooner they're wiped off the planet the better.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:09 AM (sdi6R)


Seconded.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:11 AM (8gDQu)

431 Our chaps would never lose their chaps.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:12 AM (IqV8l)

432 That's when you call the guys at East Anglia to just make up the "correct" output for you.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Dude!

no shit!

Posted by: Michael Mann at September 24, 2017 01:12 AM (/43JA)

433 427 No need for genocide.
Posted by: logprof

I beg to differ.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:10 AM (I11+c)

--Again, no need for genocide.

Just don't import the shits into non-Moslem nations.

Shit them into other Moslem pissholes.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:12 AM (GsAUU)

434 Oh, here's the webcast for tonight's Atlas V launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvr_-_XsAY4

It's launching a classified satellite for the National Reconnaissance Office.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:13 AM (sdi6R)

435 Our chaps would never lose their asses.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:13 AM (58eZn)

436 No need for genocide


I agree.

But I'm open to cyclical, periodic and repetitive decimation of certain uncivilizations.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 24, 2017 01:13 AM (MGCfm)

437

I mean it is not like there are 57 Islamic countries that have organized together in the OIC

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:14 AM (/43JA)

438 Our chaps would never lose their shirts.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:09 AM (58eZn)


The guys *get* shirts.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 24, 2017 01:14 AM (17QyB)

439 No need for genocide
......

Yeah right,

Like those muther fuckers aren't playing that game already

Posted by: Christians and Yazisis in Iraq at September 24, 2017 01:15 AM (/43JA)

440 Story at FB about how the latest classic cocktail to make a kinda-sorta comeback is...

the Bullshot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:16 AM (eMKNe)

441 I've said it before and I'll say it again - because it's the simple truth - all threats from the arab/persian/muslim world start and stop with control of the gulf oil fields. Without those fields (that the arabs just stole in the forced nationalizations of the 50s and 60s) the APM world has no power of any sort. None. They will be totally neutered.

We can retake those fields and render the APM world totally defanged - which would be about as bloodless as anything ... or we can let them keep the stolen fields, make ridiculously dangerous threats of themselves to civilization around the world thanks to the huge powers they derive from being in control of much of the lifeblood of the civilized world, and, eventually, be forced into doing some very bloody stuff to put an end to it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:17 AM (8gDQu)

442 420 Even though I think it was a peaceful sect
.....

muzzies are never peacefull, the Rohanyi have been well documented raping and beheading the Buddhists for years

Bare Naked Islam has been posting these pictures for years



The Buddhists have also done some horrific things to the Muslims. This is not one-sided as it is in Europe.

Look, I hate Islam with the heat of a thousand suns. I fear it; I fear male muslims b/c to them I'm a white whore. I fear for America b/c people have become stupid and our leaders careless. I can easily see Islam taking over.

But I struggle very, very, very hard not to hate all Muslims. It would be so easy. In fact, I know I do at times & have to fight against it, against feeding that hate. I don't want to become one of those nuts in America who live on rage.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (I0I+D)

443

After weeks of silence on the violence against Rohingyas, Mynamar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi delivered a controversial speech earlier this week in which she defiantly said that she does not fear international scrutiny.

The leader has asked for patience from the international community, refuting claims that more than half of the Rohingya villages had been destroyed.

The Nobel Peace Prize winner drew widespread criticism for her remarks, with many seeing it as reluctance to address the crisis and her government's role in it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (IqV8l)

444 all threats from the arab/persian/muslim world start and stop with control of the gulf oil fields
++++

Come ON! Can we get some love here?

Who is busting OPEC's balls more than us?

Posted by: USA Frackers at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (/43JA)

445 If those Moslems in Burma would give up their shitheel, backward, thuggish faith, they would be gold.

Oops, I sound unenlightened, but wait, Islam is not a faith; it's an ideology hell-bent on world conquest, which sounds a lot like one toward which a certain strain of Western peeps are anti.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:19 AM (GsAUU)

446 >>>Our chaps would never lose their asses.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2017 01:13 AM (58eZn)<<<

Our chaps would loose our asses.

Posted by: chaps wearing chaps at September 24, 2017 01:19 AM (x9oEV)

447
Story at FB about how the latest classic cocktail to make a kinda-sorta comeback is...

the Bullshot.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:16 AM


Beef bullion cube and vodka?

Chicken bullion cube and vodka is a Chicken Shot.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:21 AM (IqV8l)

448 Somebody rubbed Bhudda's belly

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 01:22 AM (9TU00)

449 Look, I hate Islam with the heat of a thousand suns. I fear it; I fear male muslims b/c to them I'm a white whore. I fear for America b/c people have become stupid and our leaders careless. I can easily see Islam taking over.

But I struggle very, very, very hard not to hate all Muslims. It would be so easy. In fact, I know I do at times & have to fight against it, against feeding that hate. I don't want to become one of those nuts in America who live on rage.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (I0I+D)

--Sorry, but there are millions of Christians and Whites I care about more. No shits to give for Moslem beachheads in Buddhist nations.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:23 AM (GsAUU)

450 Come ON! Can we get some love here?

Who is busting OPEC's balls more than us?

Posted by: USA Frackers at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (/43JA)


You guys have certainly done an admirable job - and done it while Barky was trying everything he could to kill the fracking industry and help his muzzie allies ... but the gulf fields are still very sensitive strategic resources that only the dumbest people would let the most savage lunatics steal control of. And the arabs and the persians don't even give a shit about the fields for themselves (outside of the power they get from them). In the Iran-Iraq war they were blowing those fields up as fast as they could, and then the other hussein showed what the arabs care about oil when dumped over 40 million barrels of oil into the gulf and lit just about every well in Kuwait on fire.

Yes, you frackers have been awesome but the fields still need to be retaken from the savages (who are just as happy to destroy the fields as they are to destroy us).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:23 AM (8gDQu)

451 Our chaps are assless.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 01:23 AM (J2oJa)

452 >>>Story at FB about how the latest classic cocktail to make a kinda-sorta comeback is...

the Bullshot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:16 AM



Beef bullion cube and vodka?

Chicken bullion cube and vodka is a Chicken Shot.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:21 AM (IqV8l)<<<





That. sounds. hideous.

Posted by: the wife from the State Farm commercial at September 24, 2017 01:23 AM (x9oEV)

453 Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:18 AM (I0I+D)

++++

No need to hate them, just realize they are backwards ass filthy savages who do not belong in The West.

and whoever advocates bringing them into The West is fucktarded.

Teddy Roosevelt blocked moslem immigration 100+ years ago, so this is nothing new

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:24 AM (/43JA)

454 I don't want to become one of those nuts in America who live on rage.
Posted by: Pandora's Box

It keeps you warm, and winter is coming

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 01:24 AM (9TU00)

455 what logprof said.

There are lots of Bengalis in Burma who are just assimilated Burmese now. Because they were Hindu, Buddhist, or nonreligious Muslims who converted to either.

The "Rohingya" are those who made the choice to go full Aceh. They weren't even the tolerant Bengali Muslims they had back home. They wanted an emirate and a base for some jihad.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 01:24 AM (6FqZa)

456 454 I don't want to become one of those nuts in America who live on rage.
Posted by: Pandora's Box

It keeps you warm, and winter is coming
Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 01:24 AM (9TU00)

--Hell yeah.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:26 AM (GsAUU)

457 I do agree with the gumdrop simienne that it's bad to live on hate though.

Living on let's-care-about-more-worthy-stuff works fine for me.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 01:26 AM (6FqZa)

458 I'm just glad that one country is fighting back against Islam. It's going to be a bloody business no matter what.

Better they die than we die.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:26 AM (sdi6R)

459 They called a hold at T-2:39. Not sure why.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:26 AM (sdi6R)

460 Just wait until Uighur Wednesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:26 AM (IqV8l)

461 In case any Myanmarese intelligence is monitoring this, I am absolutely serious about my offer to organize your genocide against muslims. Hit me up, let's talk. I'll guarantee you it'd be worth your time.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:27 AM (I11+c)

462 Ann Barnhardt and others argue that he is still Pope and that Frankie is an antipope.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig

My Pope speaks German

http://www.patheos.com/ blogs/catholicnews/2017/09/sspx-bishop-signs-letter-claiming-pope-francis-enables-error/

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 01:27 AM (9TU00)

463 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 01:24 AM (6FqZa)

--[holds up hand]

Don't leave me hangin', bro!

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:28 AM (GsAUU)

464 Bertram: the recipe I read was, beef broth (or Campbell's beef consomme), worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, horseradish, S&P, lemon (or lime) juice, and vodka.

Basically a bloody mary with the tomato juice replaced with beef broth or consomme.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:28 AM (eMKNe)

465 You just opened Pandora's Shitbox, Ray!

https://youtu.be/Lu49gL5HGHk

Posted by: Jim Lahey at September 24, 2017 01:29 AM (GsAUU)

466 Looke what happened when we felt sorry for the dumb fucking Somalis

Bush 1 went into Somalia, and now we have a fuck tonne of Somalis here in the states

Same With Clinton in Kosovo

and Bush2 in Afghanistan and Iraq, which both resulted in waaaay ot many moslem refugees/immigrants

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:29 AM (/43JA)

467 Just wait until Uighur Wednesday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

I'll entertain Chinese offers too. All muslims must go.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:29 AM (I11+c)

468 http://www.ediblemanhattan.com/departments/liquid-
assets/bullshot-david-wondrich-on-the-rise-and-fall-of-
the-beef-broth-cocktail/

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:30 AM (eMKNe)

469 --[holds up hand]

Don't leave me hangin', bro!


Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:28 AM


*ignores request* Smokes. Now.

Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:30 AM (qGuLD)

470 Dammnit Francis speaks German too, effing over educated Jesuits

Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 01:30 AM (9TU00)

471 No need to hate them, just realize they are backwards ass filthy savages who do not belong in The West.

*********

Bingo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 01:30 AM (J2oJa)

472 I have been paying attention to Mynamar for years, i have seen the video recordings smuggled out. I have a heart for them. National criticism...fuck off world.

After the Arab Spring, when Lara Logan was surrounded and sexually assaulted by 200 men, it was the Muslim women who saved her. At first, I was upset they did not intervene sooner. But then I realized they put their lives on the line to save her. A stranger. The crowd could have turned on them. It was less than 10 women I believe. And they protected her.

Again, I hate Islam. I want no more muslims in this country, and I'd like to evict most. Little girls are being sexually mutilated every day & a blind eye is turned b/c Islam. It's evil & should be prosecuted. What happened in Europe is happening here, and my heart has been breaking for years.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:31 AM (I0I+D)

473 I'm feeling way intellectual since I'm drinking white wine tonight!



!!!!

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:31 AM (/43JA)

474 I was just remembering a joke from the old Bob Newhart show. Bullshot (Bob) vs Chickenshot (Howard).

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:31 AM (IqV8l)

475 464 Bertram: the recipe I read was, beef broth (or Campbell's beef consomme), worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, horseradish, S&P, lemon (or lime) juice, and vodka.

Basically a bloody mary with the tomato juice replaced with beef broth or consomme.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 01:28 AM (eMKNe)

--Damn, did the Food Thread start waaaaaay early??

Posted by: Jim Lahey at September 24, 2017 01:32 AM (GsAUU)

476 /drunk trailer park supervisor sock

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:33 AM (GsAUU)

477 Not sure what happened, but they've recycled the count and are now targeting 1:49 am EDT (10:49 pm PDT).

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:35 AM (sdi6R)

478 *ignores request* Smokes. Now.
Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:30 AM (qGuLD)

--Knock, knock

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:35 AM (GsAUU)

479 >>>Ann Barnhardt and others argue that he is still Pope and that Frankie is an antipope.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig
<<<




Nah, brah. I'm just hip, and cool, and woke. Fo' sheezy.

Posted by: Pope-in Fresh at September 24, 2017 01:36 AM (x9oEV)

480 --Knock, knock


Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:35 AM


Who's there?

Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:37 AM (qGuLD)

481 After the Arab Spring, when Lara Logan was surrounded and sexually assaulted by 200 men, it was the Muslim women who saved her. At first, I was upset they did not intervene sooner. But then I realized they put their lives on the line to save her. A stranger. The crowd could have turned on them. It was less than 10 women I believe. And they protected her.


Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:31 AM (I0I+D)


--Was it because they were Moslem, or because they were women?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:37 AM (GsAUU)

482 After the Arab Spring, when Lara Logan was surrounded and sexually assaulted by 200 men, it was the Muslim women who saved her. At first, I was upset they did not intervene sooner. But then I realized they put their lives on the line to save her. A stranger. The crowd could have turned on them. It was less than 10 women I believe. And they protected her.


Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017


....

I think we may be speaking past each other


The folks who saved Laura Logans life were the exception, not the rule


The rule is only 8% of rapes in Sweden were solved last year

and guess who is doing the raping?

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:38 AM (/43JA)

483 Knock knock
Who's there?
Emerson
Emerson who?
Emerson nice B (.) (.) B ies

Posted by: Old Blue at September 24, 2017 01:38 AM (gEvQ8)

484 Y'know, the Radical Genocidal Environmentalists who want to radically reduce the Earth's population, might just get on board with this 1.6 billion Muslim problem?

Nah, snowflakes gotta snowflake.

But, it was a thought.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 24, 2017 01:38 AM (MGCfm)

485 Was it because they were Moslem, or because they were women?



I don't know if they can split themselves in 2 like that. I think women, but I don't know. Maybe b/c they were human.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:40 AM (I0I+D)

486 480 --Knock, knock


Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:35 AM


Who's there?
Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:37 AM (qGuLD)

--A fucking dumbass pot-head loser who can't keep an honest job, and is pissing me off, and by the way your fish sticks suck, and get the fuck off my lawn!




Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:40 AM (GsAUU)

487 Lemon Demon, 'Bill Watterson'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTauS99cD8

'where's the tiger now . . .'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 01:40 AM (6FqZa)

488 LMAO, I love Ricky. He's my id.

I just so wanted to turn the knock-knock joke against him for once.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:41 AM (GsAUU)

489 >>>Knock knock
Who's there?
Emerson
Emerson who?
Emerson nice B (.) (.) B ies


Posted by: Old Blue at September 24, 2017 01:38 AM (gEvQ<<<

**SHOCKED FACE!**

Posted by: Brooke Baldwin at September 24, 2017 01:41 AM (x9oEV)

490 --A fucking dumbass pot-head loser who can't keep an honest job, and is pissing me off, and by the way your fish sticks suck, and get the fuck off my lawn!


Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:40 AM


Yeah? Well, knock, knock logprof...

Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:41 AM (qGuLD)

491 oh, and do not forget!!!

When someone gets all sideways about someone in history owning slaves like Francis Scot Key or Thomas Jefferson,

Please remind them the Mohammed, who wrote the Koran, owned slaves

and a lot of them



**Please note that a harem, that we grew up as kids not knowing what it really is, is just a collection of sex slaves...

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:42 AM (/43JA)

492 Getting ready to pick up the count again at T-4 minutes.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:43 AM (sdi6R)

493

The folks who saved Laura Logans life were the exception, not the rule


The rule is only 8% of rapes in Sweden were solved last year

and guess who is doing the raping?




Totally agree. Totally. I guess I'm not explaining my POV at all well. It's really my own personal struggle to not hate every single muslim the way I hate Islam. I often cross over that line. You all seem to do a better job of keeping it intellectual.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:44 AM (I0I+D)

494
**Please note that a harem, that we grew up as kids not knowing what it really is, is just a collection of sex slaves...
Posted by: original jake


And they all look like Barbara Eden, right?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:44 AM (IqV8l)

495 The rule is only 8% of rapes in Sweden were solved last year



and guess who is doing the raping?
--

They're not solved because they're not investigated.

Basically, muslims are above the law in Sweden.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:45 AM (aT+Bx)

496 Posted by: Brooke Baldwin at September 24, 2017 01:41 AM (x9oEV)

The joke is best done when you tell a woman to touch foreheads, lean over really far, then tell the joke. Works best when she's wearing a low cut, loose blouse. Be prepared to duck. But look quickly, Heh.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 24, 2017 01:45 AM (gEvQ8)

497 Feh.

The women who protected Logan did so despite Islam, not because of it.

Dog bless Richard Dawkins for hating on Islam as much as X-tianity.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:45 AM (GsAUU)

498 It's really my own personal struggle to not hate every single muslim the way I hate Islam.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:44 AM (I0I+D)


I don't hate every single strand of Ebola RNA, but I don't want any of it anywhere near me and I would be happy to see it pretty much eradicated from the Earth. There's no hate involved, just common sense and an appreciation for civilization.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:47 AM (8gDQu)

499 Yeah? Well, knock, knock logprof...
Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:41 AM (qGuLD)

--Who's there

Posted by: logprof, who loooooooves TPB knock-knock jokes at September 24, 2017 01:47 AM (GsAUU)

500 Dog bless Richard Dawkins for hating on Islam as much as X-tianity.



Yes, and when he was going to speak on radio at Berkely about Islam, they promptly disinvited him. They thought he was gonna bash Christians.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:47 AM (I0I+D)

501 Totally agree. Totally. I guess I'm not explaining my POV at all well.
It's really my own personal struggle to not hate every single muslim
the way I hate Islam. I often cross over that line. You all seem to do
a better job of keeping it intellectual.
---

I worked fairly closely with two muslims in a former job. One was a turk who was a union steward who also drank alcohol, and did not pray 1,700 times a day. T

he other was black, and as an adult, decided he was a sufi.

I never got the vibe that either one was going to go jihadi and both seemed normal. BTW... the sufi let his daughter date non-muslims (I don't believe the daughter was muslim), as did the turk.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:48 AM (aT+Bx)

502 It's really my own personal struggle to not hate every single muslim the way I hate Islam.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September
........

that is because you are a Westerner


They on the other hand are taught from birth that you are a kuffer, and are to be hated, despised and killed or enslaved


apples and oranges thinking



Saudi Arabia outlawed slavery in 1962, think on that

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:49 AM (/43JA)

503 Imma gonna sign off, but seriously Myanmar, get at me. I'll guarantee no muslims in your country in 5 years or your money back. Gimme a chance.

Respectfully yours,

Field Marshal Ludwig, Malleus Muhammedanorum

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 24, 2017 01:49 AM (I11+c)

504 I worked fairly closely with two muslims in a former job. One was a turk who was a union steward who also drank alcohol, and did not pray 1,700 times a day. T

he other was black, and as an adult, decided he was a sufi.

I never got the vibe that either one was going to go jihadi and both seemed normal. BTW... the sufi let his daughter date non-muslims (I don't believe the daughter was muslim), as did the turk.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:48 AM (aT+Bx)

--Those are the kind of Moslims we like, and who are sold, but never get.

Posted by: logprof, who loooooooves TPB knock-knock jokes at September 24, 2017 01:50 AM (GsAUU)

505 The women who protected Logan did so despite Islam, not because of it.


That's what I think too. I don't see anything good or redeeming about Islam in any way, shape or form.
I am not in anyway an advocate for Islam. They want me enslaved or dead.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:50 AM (I0I+D)

506 --Who's there


Posted by: logprof, who loooooooves TPB knock-knock jokes at September 24, 2017 01:47 AM


Some guy that... ummmm... *thinks furiously* ... Shit. Make like a tree and fuck off.

Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:50 AM (qGuLD)

507 So]
How many times does one have to decimate a group to have them become, basically, non-existent?

*** hauls out abacus ***

Let's say Offensive Population is, say, 2 billion.

One decimation leaves us with (sppills drink, shorts out abacus)

Posted by: conscious consciousness at September 24, 2017 01:51 AM (na0uG)

508 interesting nfl post at 4chan:

Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on.

1.
Some NFL teams have been looking into firing players who are pulling
this protest shit. But their lawyers have all told them, while they can
do it, the fired players could then take them to court and win. The
49ers were among these teams, who have consulted their lawyers; hence
why CK never got fired. Their lawyers told them it was cheaper to just
let him do his bullshit.

2. Goodell knows he has fucked up big
time, but can't do anything except tacitly let the teams blacklist
players who pull this shit. Goodell and most of the coaches, know that
the players throwing these tantrums have them by the balls. The player's
union has sided with them, creating more problems, and you have hate
machines like ESPN further making it impossible to do anything to reign
players in.

3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering
the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try
and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically
officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in
a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense
of control over it.


Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:51 AM (aT+Bx)

509 IN BRattkeboro we do not watch foot ball instead we watch old Presdent Obama speeches and remember the good times.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 24, 2017 01:52 AM (WmgTn)

510 --Those are the kind of Moslims we like, and who are sold, but never get.
---

Both were born here.

The Turk was really pretty normal, and you would never know he was muslim unless you told you.

The black guy was a nut job who is "embracing his african heritage" and even changed his name. "Chinelo."

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:53 AM (aT+Bx)

511 497 Feh.

The women who protected Logan did so despite Islam, not because of it.

Dog bless Richard Dawkins for hating on Islam as much as X-tianity.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:45 AM (GsAUU)


Didn't he basically have to be shamed into doing that? I seem to recall criticism of him because he would always go after Christianity but never Islam.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 01:53 AM (c5LyF)

512 Those are the kind of Moslims we like, and who are sold, but never get.


Islam had been somewhat modified by Western values, but not enough. Yet, there was tolerance. However, now the radical form has taken hold & the internet has spread it like poison, including the U.S. I would not be able to trust any Muslim now.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:54 AM (I0I+D)

513 I worked fairly closely with two muslims

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:48 AM (aT+Bx)
.....
I think you are bad ass
but

this is a random sample of 2

..........



Here is my random sample of about 8 moslems

I worked at an Arabic restaurant for extra money after college in the 1990's as a waiter

one of them murdered his white wife with a plastic bag

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 01:54 AM (/43JA)

514

Some guy that... ummmm... *thinks furiously* ... Shit. Make like a tree and fuck off.
Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2017 01:50 AM (qGuLD)

--You should have opened with "Mr. Stupidityhead," Rick.

https://youtu.be/je-M675ZTK4

(BTW, for non-Trailer Park Boys fans, it's still well worth 2 1/2 minutes of your life).

Posted by: logprof, who loooooooves TPB knock-knock jokes at September 24, 2017 01:55 AM (GsAUU)

515 3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense of control over it.


Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:51 AM (aT+Bx)


I hope they all DIAF - slowly - while they are busy burning American flags. Fucking retarded traitors. It's almost comical that they are going all anti-American in a sport that is, essentially, only really popular in America.

I would boycott the NFL but I never watched them, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 01:55 AM (8gDQu)

516 KNOCK KNOCK

Posted by: IRS - I'm from the government - I'm here to help at September 24, 2017 01:57 AM (na0uG)

517 Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 01:53 AM (c5LyF)


Dawkins is watching his country destroyed. The thing I read said his stance now is Christianity is a bulwark against these messed up kinds of religion.

Yea, maybe you could have educated yourself before you attacked it. But anyone who speaks against Islam now puts their life in danger...so I give him a lot of points for that.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:57 AM (I0I+D)

518 Looks like a good launch, and as is customary with classified payloads, the live coverage ended with payload fairing jettison.

As if we could peek at the satellite on our computer monitors. Heh.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:57 AM (sdi6R)

519
Basically
officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap


Say "nice kitty" to the tiger.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 01:58 AM (IqV8l)

520 Also isn't that shit head Dawkins a pedophile excusing monster?

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 01:59 AM (c5LyF)

521 Knock Knock?

Matt Damon !!

Knock Knock?

Matt Damon!!



Matt Damon!

Posted by: Matt Damon ! at September 24, 2017 01:59 AM (/43JA)

522 How long do these anti-American dumbshits have on their NFL contracts? Can't NFL at least refuse to renew some of them?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (eMKNe)

523 >>>KNOCK KNOCK

Posted by: IRS - I'm from the government - I'm here to help at September 24, 2017 01:57 AM (na0uG)
<<<

...

...

**tosses flashbang into baby crib**

**shoots your dog**

**arrests you**

You did it wrong. No knock.

Posted by: militarized thug cops at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (x9oEV)

524 I think you are bad ass

but



this is a random sample of 2
---

Oh, I know that.

I guess the point I'm making is that there is a big difference between muslims in name only and jihadi.

From the 70's to the 90's, a lot of muslims came to America to escape the horrific regimes in the middle east. They wanted no part of that life, and consequently, came to America and:

1. opened a middle eastern restaurant
2. opened a gas station
3. worked in a convenience store
4. opened a middle eastern grocery store

Note the "work" portion of it, rather than "stay on the dole for life."

Also.. the vast majority of muslim businesses in the area celebrate Christmas, Easter as well as American holidays.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (aT+Bx)

525 Here is my random sample of about 8 moslems

I worked at an Arabic restaurant for extra money after college in the 1990's as a waiter

one of them murdered his white wife with a plastic bag

***********

So 12.5% are murderous terrorists.

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (J2oJa)

526 521 Knock Knock?

Matt Damon !!

Knock Knock?

Matt Damon!!



Matt Damon!
Posted by: Matt Damon ! at September 24, 2017 01:59 AM (/43JA)

Steve Hiolt!!!!!!

Posted by: Steve Holt at September 24, 2017 02:01 AM (GsAUU)

527 So 12.5% are murderous terrorists.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (J2oJa)


No ... just divorcees.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:02 AM (8gDQu)

528 I died in Gravity. Then I came back as a hallucination and died again. Who could argue with that?

Posted by: George Cloony at September 24, 2017 02:05 AM (na0uG)

529 The actor who played him (and Gimli in LOTR) is not at all politically correct.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:58 PM (GsAUU)


John Rhys-Davies, one true Welshman. He also made the show 'Sliders' fun while he was on it. Rhys-Davies is everywhere, but he's so good at being an actor, you never know it.

Rhys-Davies being 'everywhere' reminds me of another actor, Saul Rubinek. Now there's an actor everyone recognizes when they see him, though he's never really been a 'star'. But he's 'everywhere', too, 'Warehouse 13', 'Unforgiven', 'Leverage', The Jesse Stone movies. So many good roles in a lot of good productions.

Posted by: RickZ at September 24, 2017 02:05 AM (G6dXP)

530 524
From the 70's to the 90's, a lot of muslims came to America to escape the horrific regimes in the middle east. They wanted no part of that life, and consequently, came to America and:

1. opened a middle eastern restaurant
2. opened a gas station
3. worked in a convenience store
4. opened a middle eastern grocery store
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (aT+Bx)


The thing is, their children often become radicalized. This pattern has happened repeatedly in Europe.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:05 AM (sdi6R)

531 Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (aT+Bx)

not picking a fight
but
most of the post 9-11 moslem attacks are from second generation moslems, born here

Boston Bombing
Chattanooga recruiting station
Pulse Gay Night Club in Orlando
San Bernardino
Minnesota Mall stabbings
Sudden Jihad in a vehicle in Georgia

etc

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:07 AM (/43JA)

532 And it doesn't help that our educational system teaches that America is an evil, racist, oppressive society.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:07 AM (sdi6R)

533 The late Christopher Hitchens wrote a book subtitled "How Religion Poisons Everything," but it's really Islam that poisons everything.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:08 AM (GsAUU)

534 The Hanafi strain of Islam which is dominant in Bengal (them again, I know, I'm kind of a Razib Khan fanboy) and used to be dominant in the Sunni parts of Iraq were often converted Nestorians. They observed Christian holidays as Islamic saint days. There was a celebration of Zechariah from the New Testament for instance. I remember Salam Pax's blog mentioned this.

Also the Qur'an itself in sura 19, as well as the Dome of the Rock, seems to approve of blessing Jesus "the day he was born [Christmas], the day he died/dies [Good Friday] and the day he is raised alive [Good Friday again - hey, they's still Muslim]".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:08 AM (6FqZa)

535 rickl, good launch. Watched it live.
As to the NFL. What they don't realize is that all of the players are contract, at will, employment. For the last 14 years I was employed, if I had done an over the top political statement, HR would have given me fifteen minutes to clear out my desk. If I would have been a team owner, those asshats would have had fifteen minutes to clear out their lockers. You want to be an SJW? Good. Do it on your own time, not mine. All the COW shit has the owners and the organization running scared. And they will destroy the brand to kowtow to them. (I can't remember who came up with COW, and I can't remember what exactly it means, but I liked it. It was on a previous thread)
I sent an e-mail to the NFL telling them as a Vietman era vet that they could basically go f*ck themselves. Until they put on a uniform and put their asses on the line, they can all go suck a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 24, 2017 02:09 AM (gEvQ8)

536 3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering
the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try
and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically
officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in
a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense
of control over it.



Sure, great idea! Unleash the Dogs of Social Justice!! I mean, whats the worse that could happen? Trump gets re-elected?

https://youtu.be/5Ioiag30eAI

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 24, 2017 02:10 AM (HCqAo)

537 >>>The actor who played him (and Gimli in LOTR) is not at all politically correct.

>>>Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 11:58 PM (GsAUU)

John Rhys-Davies, one true Welshman. He also made the show 'Sliders' fun while he was on it. Rhys-Davies is everywhere, but he's so good at being an actor, you never know it.

Posted by: RickZ at September 24, 2017 02:05 AM (G6dXP)


He was great in The Great White Hype - which is a very funny movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:11 AM (8gDQu)

538 Jesus taught God.
Moohoomed taught Devil.
Jefferson & co. taught Constitutionality.
France & Moscow taught disintgrationality.
The dance will continue
until the musical chairs catch up with the Betrayer.

-Burma Shiva

Posted by: Balances at September 24, 2017 02:12 AM (na0uG)

539 Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 02:00 AM (aT+Bx)

The vast majority of arabs who came here from the 70s to the 90s were arab christians trying to escape from the muzzies. The influx of muzzies didn't really start until the 90s and Clinton.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:14 AM (8gDQu)

540 534 The Hanafi strain of Islam which is dominant in Bengal (them again, I know, I'm kind of a Razib Khan fanboy) and used to be dominant in the Sunni parts of Iraq were often converted Nestorians. They observed Christian holidays as Islamic saint days. There was a celebration of Zechariah from the New Testament for instance. I remember Salam Pax's blog mentioned this.

Also the Qur'an itself in sura 19, as well as the Dome of the Rock, seems to approve of blessing Jesus "the day he was born [Christmas], the day he died/dies [Good Friday] and the day he is raised alive [Good Friday again - hey, they's still Muslim]".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:08 AM (6FqZa)

--St. Francis wanted to go across Eurasia and preach to the Nestorians scattered across what is the steppe there. He was denied by the pope. How different history would be if militant Christianity could have outflanked Islam there.

According to the blogger Spengler (I think his name is David Goldman), Christianity in China may yet thrive and thrust against the Musselmen in Central Asia in time.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:14 AM (GsAUU)

541 influx of muzzies didn't really start until the 90s and Clinton.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September
.....

Word, Bro

Posted by: Fucking Somalias everywhere at September 24, 2017 02:16 AM (/43JA)

542 Posted by: zombie Winston Churchill at September 24, 2017 01:06 AM (x9oEV)


Can't read aloud Winston's views in England on Islam. They'll get ya for hate or inciting violence or whatever their laws are. I wonder if you can read it aloud in the U.S. now, without being fired or losing your job in Education. Who would even take the chance.

Winston fvckin' Churchill. smh

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:16 AM (I0I+D)

543
The vast majority of arabs who came here from the 70s to the 90s were arab christians trying to escape from the muzzies. The influx of muzzies didn't really start until the 90s and Clinton.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:14 AM

--What's insane is that Moslem immigration *increased* after 9/11.

WTF?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:17 AM (GsAUU)

544 St. Francis wanted to go across Eurasia and preach to the Nestorians scattered across what is the steppe there. He was denied by the pope.

Actually not ... a bad idea.

Later the Portuguese showed up in Kerala, where they had Christians literate in Aramaic and in several Tamil dialects. The Portuguese were horrified that they were "doing Christianity wrong" and went and taught them Portuguese-flavoured Catholicism. Doctrinally just about exactly what Nestorians have been teaching the whole bloody time BUT THIS TIME IN LATIN!!

So a lot of books got burned and the Christians in Kerala ended up in schisms amongst themselves. Because once the Portuguese were gone who the hell over there spoke any Latin?

indian source: http://tinyurl.com/yajrode4

Also some links I'd followed from there, and from looking stuff up. I wanted to find ancient Tamil references to Nestorian doctrine and witnesses to early Islam. I wasn't successful apparently because the Portuguese burned most of the texts :^(

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:20 AM (6FqZa)

545 >>>That being said, Goodell is seriously considering

the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try

and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically

officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in

a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense

of control over it.<<<




Wait, isn't November the month the NFL honors the military? Sept is Hispanic pandering. October is Pink Ribbon pandering. Nov is when they break out all their camo swag to sell set aside time for the troops.


Not a good idea to ditch that in order to allow a bunch of dickheads to denigrate the county they fought to so hard to protect.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 24, 2017 02:20 AM (x9oEV)

546 --What's insane is that Moslem immigration *increased* after 9/11.

WTF?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:17 AM (GsAUU)


Yup. Bush really was a dipshit and a half.

And mosque building went into high gear after 9/11. Basically, muzzies reaped tons of benefits from 9/11. It was only after 9/11 that muzzies in America found their "voice".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:20 AM (8gDQu)

547 --What's insane is that Moslem immigration *increased* after 9/11.

WTF?
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:17 AM (GsAUU)

no shit, there are parts of Boise Fucking Idaho that look like Africa or the Mid East with all the fucking head scarfs


**Hi Bob at the NSA, please add this to my file


Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:20 AM (/43JA)

548 Sorry, but those peaceful Moslems in Burma are just a hudna.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:21 AM (GsAUU)

549 I used to tour with RC, we would play chess after the concerts.
He would totally kick my ass. Every time.
While drinking Wild Turkey, neat.

Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 02:21 AM (w7KSn)

550 Sometimes I defend "colonialism". But mostly I think it was a clumsy mess that left a mess behind.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:22 AM (6FqZa)

551 The "Rohingya" are those who made the choice to go full Aceh. They weren't even the tolerant Bengali Muslims they had back home. They wanted an emirate and a base for some jihad.


Thanks for the info. I had it backwards.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:23 AM (I0I+D)

552 Also some links I'd followed from there, and from looking stuff up. I wanted to find ancient Tamil references to Nestorian doctrine and witnesses to early Islam. I wasn't successful apparently because the Portuguese burned most of the texts :^(
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:20 AM (6FqZa)

--The Inquisition!

What a show!

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:24 AM (GsAUU)

553 550 Sometimes I defend "colonialism". But mostly I think it was a clumsy mess that left a mess behind.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:22 AM (6FqZa)

--Mark Steyn's recent thoughts on "imperialism" are very relevant.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:25 AM (GsAUU)

554 Ok

If you meet a pro refugee Christian just ask them..

was Allah Jesus Father?

and step back and watch the contortions


**pro refugee means pro moslem as in "welcome refugees" bumper stickers

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:26 AM (/43JA)

555 there is nothing wrong with Islime that slagging mecca and medina wouldn't help.

don't say a word, just do it, and look surprised when it happens.

haij this, bitches.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 24, 2017 02:26 AM (/7QQs)

556 Sometimes I defend "colonialism". But mostly I think it was a clumsy mess that left a mess behind.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:22 AM (6FqZa)


I would have to disagree 1000% with that - as pertains to British colonization. The colonized societies reaped benefits that they NEVER could have gotten on their own. It's only their own fault that if they didn't take advantage of what they were shown ... but some societies just can't handle civilization, which is part of why they weren't civilized to begin with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:27 AM (8gDQu)

557 545
Give 'em March.

Posted by: socalcon at September 24, 2017 02:28 AM (WAnre)

558 And mosque building went into high gear after 9/11. Basically, muzzies reaped tons of benefits from 9/11. It was only after 9/11 that muzzies in America found their "voice".



This is so very true. How naive I was. How ignorant. I knew nothing about Islam. I always expected it to stay in the Middle East. Never thought the West would be stupid enough to bring it into their countries.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:28 AM (I0I+D)

559 colonized by

Brittan +2
Spain -1
Portugal -2
Germany -4
Italy -7
Belguim -5
Holland +5

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:29 AM (/43JA)

560 slagging mecca and medina

then y justgotta go around pissing on all the little fires for the next two hunnert years.

Not copmplainin. Jus sayin.

Posted by: Exponentially Exported at September 24, 2017 02:29 AM (na0uG)

561 554 Ok

If you meet a pro refugee Christian just ask them..

was Allah Jesus Father?

and step back and watch the contortions


**pro refugee means pro moslem as in "welcome refugees" bumper stickers
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:26 AM (/43JA)

--Or ask them if they are know the terms hudna, taqqiya, Dar Al-Harb.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:31 AM (GsAUU)

562 This is so very true. How naive I was. How ignorant. I knew nothing about Islam. I always expected it to stay in the Middle East. Never thought the West would be stupid enough to bring it into their countries.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:28 AM (I0I+D)


That was true of most Americans. Joseph Farrah, from World Net Daily, started out as trying to educate Americans on the difference between Christian and muslim arabs (which most weren't really aware of). Farrah did very important work on explaining all that, and he was one of the only people doing so at the time, that he is rarely recognized for.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 24, 2017 02:32 AM (8gDQu)

563 559 colonized by

Brittan +2
Spain -1
Portugal -2
Germany -4
Italy -7
Belguim -5
Holland +5

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:29 AM (/43JA)

--?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:33 AM (GsAUU)

564 If you meet a pro refugee Christian just ask them..


Christians are nuts for this. Moslems are wolves in sheeps clothing. They have stretched verses out of context to justify what they are doing. Christ was a lot of things, stupid was never one of them. I know of no verses that say if a people want to rape & destroy you, invite them in. There has been an over focus on some areas of the bible at the expense of others & Christ's example as a rebel & fighter & His words of warning.

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:34 AM (I0I+D)

565 --?
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:33 AM (GsAUU)

compare countries colonized by...

British colonies do better than spanish colonies

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:37 AM (/43JA)

566
Christians are nuts for this. Moslems are wolves in sheeps clothing. They have stretched verses out of context to justify what they are doing. Christ was a lot of things, stupid was never one of them. I know of no verses that say if a people want to rape & destroy you, invite them in. There has been an over focus on some areas of the bible at the expense of others & Christ's example as a rebel & fighter & His words of warning.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:34 AM (I0I+D)

--I Timothy 5:8

The Good Samaritan did not bring the beaten man to his village and demand that his fellow villagers pay for his room and board.

He only paid out of his own pocket and went on his way.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:38 AM (GsAUU)

567 jake's about right although I'm not sure I'd rate the Dutch so high. I guess they did the Caribbean right. Indonesia, er...

Missing from the list are the Frogs. Possibly because they're not done yet. French companies are still very powerful in those "liberated" African countries and in the Caribbean.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:39 AM (6FqZa)

568 565 --?
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:33 AM (GsAUU)

compare countries colonized by...

British colonies do better than spanish colonies
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:37 AM (/43JA)

--I get that, but what are those numbers?

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:39 AM (GsAUU)

569 So on a Catholic note...

Instapundit has a link to an article that talks about how a group of Roman Catholic clergy and lay scholars signed and issued a "Filial Correction" to Pope Francis, claiming that the Pope is "propagating heresies" (not that the signers have noted that they are not in a position to judge whether the Pope himself is guilty of heresy).

The focus of the whole thing is apparently "Francis' exhortation on marriage and the family, Amoris Laetitia". Among other things, the letter claims that the Pope has advocated a position that "Catholics should sometimes accept adultery as compatible with being a follower of Christ."

Can anyone provide some insight on this? In particular, what exactly is the Amoris Laetitia?

Posted by: junior at September 24, 2017 02:41 AM (g7A33)

570 I think jake was treating a country's relative development as a golf handicap. Maybe the Froggie colonies are the baseline 0?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:41 AM (6FqZa)

571 --I get that, but what are those numbers?
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:39 AM (GsAUU)


++++

Jake Score
on Sept 24, 2017


your Richter Scale may be calibrated differently

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:42 AM (/43JA)

572 what exactly is the Amoris Laetitia?

Sounds like something you pay $80 for on Bourbon Street

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:42 AM (6FqZa)

573 not sure I'd rate the Dutch so high

....

I was base lining New York/Amsterdam

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:43 AM (/43JA)

574 573 not sure I'd rate the Dutch so high

....

I was base lining New York/Amsterdam
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:43 AM (/43JA)

--Then Holland should be -10.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:46 AM (GsAUU)

575 Maybe the Froggie colonies are the baseline 0?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 02:41 AM (6FqZa)

....

Well that is hard

How do you compare French Canada, Tahiti and the Ivory Coast, and or Algeria?



??



please note which are moslem

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:46 AM (/43JA)

576 Can anyone provide some insight on this? In particular, what exactly is the Amoris Laetitia?
Posted by: junior at September 24, 2017 02:41 AM (g7A33)
---
more than i want to get into this late in a weekend ONT, and i gave up being Catholic for Lent when i was a teenager.

Not even sure it should a thread topic: i can see bannings in the future of such a poast.

Bing is your friend: original text and critiques both

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 24, 2017 02:48 AM (/7QQs)

577 Mark Steyn has a great take on how the UK left India vs. how America is cocking up Afghanistan.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:48 AM (GsAUU)

578 y'all are bad ass


but I need some zzzzzz'z


peace out

Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 02:49 AM (/43JA)

579 One Moron (sadly, I cannot name him) openly mused a few years ago if Pope Frankie was going to give up communism for Lent.


I steal that line every year.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:51 AM (GsAUU)

580 @576 Not even sure it should a thread topic: i can see bannings in the future of such a poast.
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Too bad. Though possibly understandable.

Posted by: junior at September 24, 2017 03:01 AM (g7A33)

581 Okay, that Cracked article about Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was really interesting. . . .

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:03 AM (GsAUU)

582 Oops. Just slipped and slid and here I go
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Fell off a cliff JABO!!!
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.fuckity
fuck
fuck
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I guess I should pray
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Oh lord, I offer you up my soul. Have mercy
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Love you wife. I'll miss you and the rest of my family
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damn it's a long way down
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rivers only a few feet deep here. Not much chance
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fuck it. I think I'll get up and piss. This is only a dream.
Morning horde! I live!

Contrary to lore, you can hit bottom when you dream you fall off a cliff. I have and it hurts. Much better to just wake up before you hit.

Posted by: SubterraneanJT at September 24, 2017 03:29 AM (qG0hz)

583 fuck it. I think I'll get up and piss. This is only a dream.
Morning horde! I live!

Contrary to lore, you can hit bottom when you dream you fall off a cliff. I have and it hurts. Much better to just wake up before you hit.
Posted by: SubterraneanJT at September 24, 2017 03:29 AM (qG0hz)

--Whatever, I have not had a wet dream in years.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:31 AM (GsAUU)

584 Nite horde. Back to sleep.

Posted by: SubterraneanJT at September 24, 2017 03:31 AM (qG0hz)

585 in more mundane circles... from the smells wafting in the window, and the air quality, our first real Santa Ana in some time is here.

WOOT!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 24, 2017 03:37 AM (/7QQs)

586 and, on that happy note, bed.

hasta, y'all!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 24, 2017 03:37 AM (/7QQs)

587 Time to turn in.

Good night, y'all!

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:42 AM (GsAUU)

588
579 One Moron (sadly, I cannot name him) openly mused a few years ago if Pope Frankie was going to give up communism for Lent.


I steal that line every year.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:51 AM (GsAUU)

Don't know if it's the original but Oregonmuse at least credits one of my comments saying it

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=361496


So credit me unless someone can find an older version.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 03:43 AM (c5LyF)

589 So credit me unless someone can find an older version.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 03:43 AM (c5LyF)

--Shazaam!

That's it!

Not bad for a dead dude.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:46 AM (GsAUU)

590 And good night furreal.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:47 AM (GsAUU)

591 So credit me unless someone can find an older version.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 03:43 AM (c5LyF)


Now we gotta use footnotes around here? Jesus Christ On A Rubber-Tipped Crutch! [1]

[1] I once knew a guy who used that all the time, Fat Joe. (Is that how this footnote thingy works?)

Posted by: RickZ at September 24, 2017 04:07 AM (G6dXP)

592 I often try to find original quotes if someone thinks it was said here. I've done the same thing for the global warming requiring a massive source of energy on the magnitude of the sun quote and had previously found it

It just happens in this case apparently I am the source.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 04:14 AM (c5LyF)

593 There's been a bit of "I hate all Muslims" on this thread tonight.

Is this part of a joke I missed, or are there posters here who genuinely feel this way?

Posted by: Shopgirl at September 24, 2017 04:50 AM (N6TKa)

594 I love the fact that Trump not only doubles down he triples down.

He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch.

I hope you NFL retards enjoy your ratings slide even further because it seems you haven't gotten the message.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 05:01 AM (9A6UB)

595 And for the record Andrew McCarthy is a dope.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 05:09 AM (9A6UB)

596 Ulterior Motive?

Wasn't President Trump a major investor in the USFL?

That would explain why he is actively helping the nfl commit godellicide.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 05:34 AM (sf2BM)

597 At least its a hour after I thought it would be

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 05:37 AM (ghofu)

598 I like Bob Marley's music so much we named a cat after him.

Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2017 05:50 AM (zLDYs)

599 Coffee's on

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 05:56 AM (ghofu)

600 Thanks for reminding me. Been boiling for a couple of minutes.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 24, 2017 05:59 AM (sf2BM)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 09-23-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Out of Order

Back when The Simpsons was good and something to look forward to, they produced that little segment in the third "Treehouse of Horror" episode. I love this bit. Homer telling a scary story completely out of order to the point of inefficacy. Revealing key information about main characters after their respective payoffs. It's such a perfect example of terrible story telling.

I bring it up because it's one of the things I think of first when I hear of a story being told non-linearly. And yet, I know it can be done wonderfully well.

Last week we talked about the three-act structure, but because it's the most common narrative structure for film doesn't mean that it's the only one or even the best. I don't care about which is "best", but I do care about stories well told in different ways. So, let's talk about one of my favorite examples of non-linear story-telling.


Kill Bill

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People usually consider Pulp Fiction to be Quentin Tarantino's best movie. I'd say that it's his most important film (none of his others changed the face of film like Pulp Fiction did), but Jackie Brown, The Hateful Eight, and Kill Bill are better, the last being my favorite.

One thing I like about Tarantino in general is that his movies tend to bear a certain feeling like that of a novel. It's most obvious in a superficial way with how he occasionally uses chapters (Kill Bill has ten of them), but also in subtler ways. Scenes play out longer than most movies. Characters tend to get explored more. Overall, it feels a bit fleshier than a movie, sort of like a novel. Some call that self-indulgence, I call that storytelling.


Volume 1

Due to theaters not really wanting to release a 4-hour kung fu movie, Tarantino agreed to break his opus into two halves. There's relatively little different from his original idea except for an added bit of dialogue at the end of Volume 1 and some pull backs on the violence to achieve an R rating (the reason for the black and white segment during The Showdown at House of Blue Leaves). Still, we're here to talk about structure.

chapter 1.jpg

The movie begins somewhere in the middle of the story. After a short prologue where we see The Bride shot in the head, this same character drives up to a suburban home and starts a fight with a homemaker. For those with long memories, I said that movies beginning with action scenes were doing something wrong, but that was under the implication that the action sequence would be expected to elicit tension arising from emotional attachment. That's not what happens here. The opening sequence is funny as The Bride and the homemaker use household objects to try and brutally murder each other. What's actually happening in the chapter, though?

It's an introduction to The Bride. Her abilities are shown through the sequence, but once the sequence ends, she has a conversation with the homemaker (actually Vernita Green, a member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad) where they outline the extent of The Bride's quest for vengeance. It's an introduction to the entire plot. Another interesting element is that this chapter takes place after the events of Chapter 5, and it makes no effort to hide that fact. At the end of this chapter, we see the name O-Ren Ishii on The Bride's Kill List with a red line through her name. It means there could not possibly be any tension around the rest of the movie, right?

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Here, the movie takes a few steps backwards to explain a bit more of the specifics of the situation. We get a quick summary of the Massacre at Two Pines, an introduction to another member of the Squad (Elle), Bill attempting to walking back from his attempted murder, and an explanation of how The Bride recovered from her coma induced by the bullet to the head.

Squinting slightly and translating this to the three-act structure, this would partially function as the Set Up. What we'll find in this movie is that the set up comes and goes based on the needs of the narrative, so we see Bill partially explained, Elle partially explained, and The Bride's situation partially explained. Why only partially? Because there's a lot of explanation to be had. The story is very large. You can argue that maybe it should be cut down to be shorter, but as it is, it's very large, and the bulk of set up would weigh down the front of the movie unreasonably.

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This chapter presents the back story of O-Ren Ishii, the third introduced member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad. People often complain that this chapter is too long considering O-Ren's importance to the overall story, but I disagree. While the animated segment does probably go on too long for the purposes of introducing O-Ren herself, I think that the entire chapter not only introduces the Japanese member of the Squad, but also acts as a proxy introduction to the other members. We never really dig into the backgrounds of the other members (Vernita, Elle, Budd, or The Bride), so seeing how O-Ren got made shows us an example of what it takes to join the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad. We can imply that the others have similar backgrounds and reasons to "[jet] around the world, killing human beings, and being paid vast sums of money".

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Chapter 4 introduces Hatori Hanzo, a man who holds almost mythic importance in the world of Kill Bill. He makes the best katana swords in the world, and The Bride goes to him to get a sword to fight Bill. Hanzo eventually agrees when The Bride namedrops Bill, making the greatest sword of his career. "If on [her] journey, [she] should encounter God, God will be cut," he says upon his final inspection.

There's world building in this chapter, but also the implication that Bill's awfulness extends well beyond his treatment of The Bride when he shot her. Bill is a bad man, so bad that he inspires a man who swore off weapon making to make one more sword in order to kill him. It also further explains how far The Bride is willing to go. The looks that The Bride and Hanzo share when he realizes what she wants imply that she knows that not only could Hanzo say no, but he could also probably make a solid attempt at killing her for just trying.

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I wrote about this a few weeks ago in a post about action, so I won't go in depth. Just that The Bride faces down O-Ren's gang (the Crazy 8, cutting through them all and finally killing O-Ren herself.

Aside from being an action set piece that is honestly one of the greatest put to film, there's narrative purpose to it. Killing O-Ren and getting through another name on the list, obviously, but it also demonstrates the depth of The Bride's need for revenge. She's willing to literally cut through dozens of people to get to her target, and she's good enough to do it. We're not being told that The Bride is dangerous, we're seeing it. The fact that she never faces off against another threat of that scale is indicative that Tarantino understood exactly what he was doing. He had demonstrated that The Bride was dangerous on an almost unfathomable level, so any time she comes face to face with someone, we know she's got that under her belt.

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Released six months after Volume 1, Volume 2 is where the narrative really settles down and tells a much more focused story. Focused on character, focused on relationships, and focused on implications.

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It's here, at the halfway point of the whole story, that Tarantino choses to tell the start of the story.

If I had to guess, it's because he decided to bring in emotion at this point, but why? We've invested time with the Bride. We understand her from a plot perspective (her quest for vengeance), which Tarantino provided as an opening into the world. And then, he introduces the why. We've seen the why referenced to several times up to this point, but never explored. The chapter itself is touching as wounded people confront each other leading to the climax we all know is going to happen. There's a sense of inevitability to the action and dialogue that colors it differently than if we started with this scene, or even if it were just near the beginning.

It's also our first real introduction to Bill as a character. He's never been seen entirely on screen up to this point, always just out of frame and giving hints of who he is and what drives him. He almost seems more like a force of nature than a character up to this point. Here, though, we see him fully. We see his wounded, compassionate side, but we also see the fear in the Bride's eyes as she thinks of what he could end up doing (and does, of course). He's cool, and extremely dangerous.

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Budd, Bill's estranged brother, is a sad loser. A former member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad works at a titty bar, getting abuse from its scummy owner and cleaning up shitty water in the women's restroom. He lives in an isolated and crummy little mobile home. If there's one of the Bride's targets that should be an easy kill, it's Budd, but Budd is the one who gets the best of her. Here we see the Bride descend to her lowest point since the bullet to her brain. Buried alive by the most washed up of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

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Flashback! What would a Tarantino movie be without a major flashback? (Jackie Brown, but never mind.) Anyway, this is where we discover what the Bride went through to become the killing machine we've seen. Would it have been better supplied earlier in the story? I don't think so. It's here for two very specific purposes: to provide a method for the Bride getting out of a wooden box six feet underground, and establish the tough love and respectful relationship that she developed with Pai Mei. It's a fun sequence.

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Budd dies and the Bride gives Elle a fate worse than death. After escaping from her grave, the Bride finds that Elle killed Budd (probably the most sympathetic character on her hit list due to his clear view of the situation), but Elle also reveals that she killed Pai Mei with a poisoned fish head. Nearing the end of her quest, the Bride is tired and the fight with Elle is brutal (apparently inspired by hijinks on Jack Ass). Elle is probably the most personal of the Bride's targets after Bill. It's obvious that Elle replaced the Bride in Bill's bed.

Looking back over her journey, it's easy to see that the Bride, as she got closer to Bill, got there by killing the one's furthest from him emotionally and proceeding inwards. Vernita had completely left the life behind. Bill had helped O-ren become the queen of the Japanese underworld. Budd was his brother with whom Bill had a complex and strained relationship. Elle was heavily implied to be Bill's lover. In terms of her actual list, the only ones who the movie presents out of order are the first two (O-ren before Vernita).
Despite the story being told out of order overall, Volume 2 is largely in order and the main sets of action are told in an emotionally cogent order.

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The ultimate showdown is surprisingly low key. At one point Bill describes a fight they could have on a moonlit beach which was supposed to be the filmed ending, but Harvey Weinstein talked Tarantino into saving some money and so we have the 15 second sword fight while sitting in chairs instead. Is the fight itself less satisfying viscerally than any of the others? I'd say yes, but the physical fight between the Bride and Bill was never supposed to be the point. It's an emotional culmination of the Bride's journey. Finding her daughter to be alive completely disarms her and allows for the literal reason why the two don't start trying to murder each other the second the Bride shows up. Calmed down, it also allows for the two to talk, and the conversation is heartbreaking. It's obvious that the Bride loved Bill, but she loved her daughter more and swore to keep her away from the life she had led up to that point.

That decision hurts both the Bride and Bill, even to that day 4 years after the Massacre at Two Pines.

The Bride then kills Bill, fulfilling the promise of the title, and we get our ending where the Bride cries in shocked relief on the floor of her hotel bathroom while little BB watches cartoons on the other side of the door. It's an ending that the Bride earns completely. She went through Hell and dozens of bad people to ultimately reclaim her daughter, and she earned it.


Conclusion

So, I never really intended to summarize the movie in such detail, and I hope that I provided more context on structure than just that, but let me continue like I totally did what I meant to do.

Could this exact same story have been told linearly and had the same level of emotional impact? I'd bet a hearty yes on that. It could have been, but what would have been lost? Just taking what's already in the movie and rearranging it, I think the introduction would have been too long before ever getting to any sort of character or plot development. The middle would have been the Showdown followed by a small fight in a housewife's home, which would have been a curious order. The final third would have been the bulk of action in Volume 2 without Pai Mei, him not having been seen since the very beginning of the movie about 3 hours before.

Essentially, it would have had to have been completely rewritten and re-envisioned, not just re-organized.

I love it as it is, though. The disorder of the story pieces works. The long sequences that could have been shorter, are all entertaining in their own right. The story comes to a satisfying conclusion without tying up every lose end unnecessarily. (Is Elle alive? Will little Nicki come after the Bride at some later date?) And, most importantly, the Bride's emotional journey is clear, fulfilling, and complete.

The structure of the film seems to follow no formal rules, but it ends up working despite the seeming chaos.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Kingsman: The Golden Circle
The LEGO Ninjago Movie
Stronger
Friend Request

Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Flight of the Phoenix

Movies I Saw This Week:
OSS 117: Lost in Rio (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Poster blurb: "Funny, but not quite as hilarious as the first." [Netflix DVD]
Seven Psychopaths (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2.5/4) "When movies are about movies instead of people, there's a distance created that this one doesn't quite bridge." [Amazon Prime]
The New World (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Beautiful and heartfelt exploration of the sad and inevitably fruitless search for Eden on Earth." [Personal Collection]
The Tree of Life (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "An achingly beautiful portrait of loss framed similarly to Job's story." [Personal Collection]


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1 Frist!

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 07:38 PM (XlF/h)

2 2nd

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:42 PM (ghofu)

3 Acid attacks in London?

Oh, like the one in Marseilles, not at all Islamic terrorism.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (GsAUU)

4 5th 2nd of the day, never had that before .
Been watching Prometheus 2012 Sci-fi.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (ghofu)

5 Willowed:

Well, They are finally releasing me from the hopital after two weeks. Except, they forgot my prescriptions, so I am still waiting. I came in complaining of neck pain. The fially checked my neck sfter 3 strokes which they said I was faking. So I have a 70% blockage in my right carotid artery for which I will have surgery in a couple weeks because I have a 75% chance of having anotherstroke within the next year.

But it wasn't all bad. The woman down the hall does a pretty good Janis Joplin.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=cry+baby+janis+joplin+&sm=1
Posted by: bergerbilder at September 23, 2017 07:33 PM (z56EA)

Posted by: bergerbilder at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (z56EA)

6 Pulp Fiction was a well done non-linear too.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 07:44 PM (nzQyq)

7 I never bothered to get this in depth with Kill Bill. In fact until you mentioned things I had forgotten almost all about it.

Still when the Bride paddles the would-be Yakuza is still a funny moment. Along with Charlie Brown and his wife. Plus Go-Go Yabarai. Production I.G.'s O-ren anime is still a weak part and very much reminds me of Aeon Flux.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 07:44 PM (tt7o8)

8 "The Band" a probably unknown Israeli film.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (0NwUA)

9 And what of The Fountain, three separate related tales going at once?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (nzQyq)

10 Posted by: bergerbilder at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (z56EA)

Hang tough. Sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (T/7Cm)

11 I assume all OT topics should remain below?

(would not hurt to direct OT comments to the thread below, as used to be a common admonition in these kinds of situations at the HQ)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (0BFUD)

12 All downhill after Reservoir Dogs.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (XlF/h)

13 Sonobi-tch if f'-in up the heading, hard to read it

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (ghofu)

14 Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Flight of the Phoenix

++++

Hmmm. Your text says 1965, but the link says 2004.

Go with the original. The remake, while not horrible, just doesn't measure up.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (pvjTE)

15 Why make yourself suffer watching Prometheus??

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2012/06/prometheus-spoilers-ahead.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 07:46 PM (tt7o8)

16 bergerbuilder- concern and prayers for you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 07:48 PM (0NwUA)

17 Big acid attack by a gang at a London subway station.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 07:48 PM (mJ8mX)

18 Seven Psychopaths (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2.5/4) "When movies are about movies instead of people, there's a distance created that this one doesn't quite bridge."

++++

I liked it better than you, but more so after my second viewing. It had to grow on me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 07:49 PM (pvjTE)

19 A long time ago, say around 1990, Matt Groening forgot to tell people that "The Simpsons" were a cartoon, not a guide on how to live your life.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 07:49 PM (5VlCp)

20 Kill Bill 1 and 2 are the greatest 4.5 hours of cinema ever made, IMHO.

The Hateful 8 was a piece of dogshit that should have been burned.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 23, 2017 07:50 PM (O033+)

21 I've seen Pulp Fiction at least twice. I admire the production, the direction, the performances.

And yet I do not like that movie. It is, in the end, too bleak, too dystopic. Too jarring.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:50 PM (T/7Cm)

22 Posted by: bergerbilder at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (z56EA)

Geez man. Prayers up.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:50 PM (NWiLs)

23 Zed's dead, Baby, Zed's dead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 07:51 PM (nzQyq)

24 How could you not mention that Vernita Green pulls a pistol out of a box of Kaboom cereal?

That to me was the best detail in Kill Bill AND of course should make it part of Horde canon.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2017 07:51 PM (jHrzU)

25 BTW, my favorite Tarantino movie is "Inglourious Basterds."

Ain't budging on this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:52 PM (T/7Cm)

26 I am still doing sci-fi movies per comment numbers at another website and used Prometheus for ghe 2094th comment but only ever saw a little of it.
Finding movies for years 2100 on is getting harder, though many are not year specific.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:52 PM (ghofu)

27 Evening! Hateful Eight better than Pulp Fiction??? Lordy..

That was a piece of crap, and I understand how a "Genuine Movie Buff" would think it great with all the little references to several genres.. but to me it was simply an indulgent piece of crap.

And.. Pulp Fiction was a much better example of out of sequence story telling.. told perfectly.. and laying the groundwork for this kind of storytelling.. Once again.. Lordy..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 23, 2017 07:52 PM (i2KAN)

28 Reservoir Dogs was my second favorite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:53 PM (T/7Cm)

29 14 Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Flight of the Phoenix

++++

Hmmm. Your text says 1965, but the link says 2004.

Go with the original. The remake, while not horrible, just doesn't measure up.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 07:45 PM (pvjTE)

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I watched it earlier today after sending the post to OM. I'd call the remake bad. Pure formula. Thin characters. Unnecessary added "tension". I liked Giovanni Ribbisi though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 07:53 PM (Jj43a)

30 I have never seen an episode of the simpsons, but I have seen Kill Bill II. I think... That was the one with the Japanese Girl Band singing 'WooHoo, WhoohooHoo...' and so forth. Won't it?

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 07:54 PM (zLDYs)

31 21 I've seen Pulp Fiction at least twice. I admire the production, the direction, the performances.

And yet I do not like that movie. It is, in the end, too bleak, too dystopic. Too jarring.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:50 PM (T/7Cm)

I dunno. I liked Jules' monologue at the end. "The truth is, you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd."

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:54 PM (NWiLs)

32 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_set_in_the_future

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:55 PM (ghofu)

33 Also, Jules walked away from the life. Vincent stayed in and it got him killed.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:55 PM (NWiLs)

34 32 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_set_in_the_future
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:55 PM (ghofu)

--That list changes by the year.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU)

35 First 20 years barely missed a Simpson episode, maybe 5 ago stopped cold turkey.
Never watched any of Kill Biil but I liked Pulp Fiction

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:57 PM (ghofu)

36 Hey everybody, and hey OregonMuse!

Glad you saw The Tree Of Life. I overall enjoyed it and appreciated its pro-life, pro-Christian message... but I thought it worked more like, frankly, an extended slide show, than a movie.

Would you agree? Disagree? I think ToL would have benefitted from more (maybe a lot more) scenes that were fully fleshed out, rather than just brief bits. It was kind of jarring in that respect, IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 07:57 PM (eMKNe)

37 I knew Skip was going to link that.

And thanks for scooping me on the Tube attack, logprof!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 07:57 PM (mJ8mX)

38 Sept 26th on CrunchyRoll will premier Watanabe Shinichiro's anime short Blade Runner Black Out 2022.

https://youtu.be/OD0RCfcaols

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 07:58 PM (tt7o8)

39 30 I have never seen an episode of the simpsons, but I have seen Kill Bill II. I think... That was the one with the Japanese Girl Band singing 'WooHoo, WhoohooHoo...' and so forth. Won't it?
Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 07:54 PM (zLDYs)

Nope, that's Kill Bill 1. In the House of Blue Leaves before The Bride duels and kills O-Ren.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

40 Also everyone: got copies finally of Mulholland Drive and The Conversation, based on all your raves.

Still having trouble pulling the trigger on The Ninth Configuration though.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 07:58 PM (eMKNe)

41 Movies set in the future that I watched as a kid are now set in the past.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 07:58 PM (Nwg0u)

42 I just try to find a movie taking place the year of comment number. I have found a couple of wiki sites listing movies. Earlier decades are more specific and you can find something for every year.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 07:59 PM (ghofu)

43 Oops, was this posted by TJM or OregonMuse?

Anyway... whomever saw The Tree Of Life, hope we can discuss it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 07:59 PM (eMKNe)

44 36 Hey everybody, and hey OregonMuse!

Glad you saw The Tree Of Life. I overall enjoyed it and appreciated its pro-life, pro-Christian message... but I thought it worked more like, frankly, an extended slide show, than a movie.

Would you agree? Disagree? I think ToL would have benefitted from more (maybe a lot more) scenes that were fully fleshed out, rather than just brief bits. It was kind of jarring in that respect, IMHO.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 07:57 PM (eMKNe)

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I don't know about OM, but for me, you need to know how to watch a Malick movie. He speaks another language of film than we're used to. There's no plot, and he's trying to drive you through the story on pure emotion.

Plus, the creation of the cosmos is one of the most beautiful sequences of film I've ever seen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:00 PM (Jj43a)

45 prayers bergerbilder

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 23, 2017 08:00 PM (hMwEB)

46 The Flight of the Phoenix
----

Until now, I did not even know that there had been a remake. I would say "WTF?", but Hollywood...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (5IJky)

47 'Getting stoned' and 'dropping acid' is alot different in Islam for some reason.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (mJ8mX)

48 Hi, Horde.

Just found "The Good Place" on Netflix. It's funny, very non-serious, lots of fun.

Kristen Bell and Ted Danson.

No leftist messaging, just cute and fun.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Johnny at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (7T51K)

49 *gasp* a wonderful review.

Posted by: David Carridine at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (/qEW2)

50 I always say that Tarantino wants us to suffer for his art. He always puts something gratuitous in to make you feel guilty for enjoying his films.

However the best Tarantino movie is From Dusk Til Dawn because Tarantino gets killed. Twice.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (jHrzU)

51 TJM, hmm. I have heard that about Malick, and that his most conventional movie is Badlands.

OTOH I greatly respect that Malick is a great filmmaker, and even recognized as such by Hollywood, while at the same time having such a Christian (or at least, pro-Christian) background.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (eMKNe)

52 Looking forward to seeing the Kingsman sequel. The first one was fun and a different take on the "secret agent" genre.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (EZebt)

53 A good linear non-linear movie(or is it non-linear linear?) is Memento.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 08:02 PM (BFYeS)

54 The harder part is finding a still from said movie, that can take searching 5 sites or more. You need a jpg photo to post.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:02 PM (ghofu)

55 I watched it earlier today after sending the post to OM. I'd call the remake bad. Pure formula. Thin characters. Unnecessary added "tension". I liked Giovanni Ribbisi though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 07:53 PM (Jj43a)

++++

Did you see the original? The stories were essentially the same, no? It's been awhile since I've seen either, but I recall them as being pretty close to one another as far as the story. But, the performances were not as good in the remake.

And I don't recall why, but the model designer just didn't seem as natural in the remake. Perhaps because I already knew where the story was going, but it just seemed more written in the remake rather than like something that could have happened that way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 08:02 PM (pvjTE)

56 47 'Getting stoned' and 'dropping acid' is alot different in Islam for some reason.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (mJ8mX)

--Everybody must get stoned.

Posted by: Imam Abdul at September 23, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU)

57
Yeah the structure in Kill Bill is fine. Best bits are the teahouse battle and the whole Budd part with him getting the upper hand. Did you notice the call back (if it actually is one) to Natural Born Killers with some of the animated scenes?

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:03 PM (qGuLD)

58 >>>However the best Tarantino movie is From Dusk Til Dawn because Tarantino gets killed. Twice.

Salma Hayek dance scene.

Posted by: wooga at September 23, 2017 08:04 PM (n5VsB)

59 Huh...you convinced me to see The Tree of Life which I had totally written off. But a quick perusal of IMDB reviews (which are mostly one star) have a few reviews that sell the film pretty well.

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 08:04 PM (q177U)

60 Posted by: bergerbilder at September 23, 2017 07:43 PM (z56EA)

Prayers for your complete and speedy healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2017 08:05 PM (EZebt)

61 Badlands was inspired by the Charles Starkweather murders-- a major national news story back in the day.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:05 PM (XlF/h)

62 51 TJM, hmm. I have heard that about Malick, and that his most conventional movie is Badlands.

OTOH I greatly respect that Malick is a great filmmaker, and even recognized as such by Hollywood, while at the same time having such a Christian (or at least, pro-Christian) background.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (eMKNe)

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From what I understand, he's hardcore Roman Catholic. So it's less that he's making pro Christian movies, but that he's just making movies from that general perspective.

The idea and motif of Eden comes up in pretty much every one of his movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:05 PM (Jj43a)

63 Memento is linear, just running backwards.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 08:05 PM (d5Jdx)

64 Max Power, as I said, it's something nice to see: a positive-minded, life-affirming film (although there are sad scenes, of course).

But be warned, Malick was obviously seriously trying to remind viewers of 2001: A Space Odyssey, again IMHO, in the way the movie is structured and some of the scenes are staged.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:06 PM (eMKNe)

65 @58 in my memory Salma was buck nekkid in that dance scene or at least fully topless. On rewatch she was covered by snake.

But yes that was a great scene.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2017 08:06 PM (jHrzU)

66 57
Yeah the structure in Kill Bill is fine. Best bits are the teahouse battle and the whole Budd part with him getting the upper hand. Did you notice the call back (if it actually is one) to Natural Born Killers with some of the animated scenes?
Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:03 PM (qGuLD)

=====

I saw NBK once about twenty years ago. I'm just not a big Oliver Stone fan, so I've never felt the desire to revisit it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (Jj43a)

67 I watched it earlier today after sending the post to OM. I'd call the remake bad. Pure formula. Thin characters. Unnecessary added "tension". I liked Giovanni Ribbisi though.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 07:53 PM


Ribisi is excellent in the remake. He carried the movie.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (qGuLD)

68 mnw, yup.

Also, Malick supposedly discovered Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek by choosing them for Badlands.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (eMKNe)

69 I saw this Twilight Zone last week and it had WW3 happening in the 70s.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734565/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (mJ8mX)

70 If you wanna get into religion, Alfred Hitchcock was Catholic and there are some interesting themes in his films.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU)

71 Not a Tarantino fan, his movies are not my cup of tea.
I do like stories told out of sequence when done well. Of course, I can;t think of any off-hand ;(

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (W+vEI)

72 In Cold Blood (film) owes something to Badlands.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (XlF/h)

73 Kill Bill 1 and 2 are the greatest 4.5 hours of cinema ever made, IMHO.

The Hateful 8 was a piece of dogshit that should have been burned.



I'm a huge Tarantino fanboi and I have to agree with you here.

I think Kill Bill benefits from being split in two, because the two movies are stylistically different. For simplicity, I think of KB1 as a Hong Kong choppy choppy movie and KB2 as a Japanese movie.

As to Hateful Eight, I so wanted to love it. The opening with the horses running in the snow, the closeup of steam pouring from their nostrils, this was going to be Tarantino serving up cinematic orgasms.

Then the stupid plot with the characters and their double crosses. By the time it went to the flashback to tell us who the characters were I didn't care anymore.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 08:08 PM (gIRsn)

74 Some things should just not be remade.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 08:08 PM (0NwUA)

75 logprof, as I understand it, Hitchcock liked to take sly little digs at Catholicism (and religion in general) in his films. But he was smart and/or respectful enough not to go too far with it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:08 PM (eMKNe)

76 64 Max Power, as I said, it's something nice to see: a positive-minded, life-affirming film (although there are sad scenes, of course).

But be warned, Malick was obviously seriously trying to remind viewers of 2001: A Space Odyssey, again IMHO, in the way the movie is structured and some of the scenes are staged.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:06 PM (eMKNe)

======

2 things:

The 2001 connection is actually pretty close because Malick used Douglas Trumball to do the special effects (there very little CGI in that sequence).

And

The cosmos sequence had more to do with the Book of Job than 2001.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:08 PM (Jj43a)

77 >>>53 A good linear non-linear movie(or is it non-linear linear?) is Memento

I actually enjoyed watching it a second time in a row to see all the little things I missed the first time.

Posted by: wooga at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (n5VsB)

78 Sneding prayesr, bergerbilder! Hope the surgery and recovery go smoothly.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (W+vEI)

79 *hic* I love that ... kill bill ... but I needed that son of a bitch.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (/qEW2)

80 mnw, uh really? ;-)

In Cold Blood was released in 1967. Badlands was released in 1973.

So maybe you meant to say, Badlands has some inspirations from ICB.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (eMKNe)

81 Logans Run takes place in 2116
The Treasure of Sierra Madre is on TMC
A kid was in the movie a couple of minutes ago and was sure it was Robert Blake, couldn't have been 10yrs old. Looked it up and it was.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (ghofu)

82 Ugh, I can't type...."Sending prayers"

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (W+vEI)

83 Yeah, don't think Memento would have worked as a chronological linear story.

Another pretty good movie I had to watch (small, independent film) a few times to grasp what was going on owing to its non-linearity was a 2004 movie called "Primer."

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 08:10 PM (BiLU+)

84 Badlands was inspired by the Charles Starkweather-- a major national news story back in the day.

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He killed 11 people over two months and it shocked the nation. That's a Saturday night in Chicago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:10 PM (Nwg0u)

85 Ribisi is excellent in the remake. He carried the movie.
Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM (qGuLD)

--If you have not done so, you should watch Sneaky Pete.

Very addictive.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:10 PM (GsAUU)

86 watching The Ring

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 23, 2017 08:11 PM (hMwEB)

87 63
Memento is linear, just running backwards.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 08:05 PM (d5Jdx)

Actually, the in-color parts run backward while the black and white parts run forward, and the two lines meet in the end.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 08:11 PM (BFYeS)

88 In Cold Blood (film) owes something to Badlands.
Posted by: mnw
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*?*

Didn't In Cold Blood precede Badlands by a good margin?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 08:12 PM (5IJky)

89 Mike, yup. 1967 vs 1973.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:12 PM (eMKNe)

90 Robert Blake, couldn't have been 10yrs old. Looked it up and it was.
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:09 PM (ghofu)

Robert Blake was one of those guys who always looked like his grownup self, like Jerry Mathers and Clint Howard.

Me? People look at pics of me as a young man and say, "dude, what happened?"

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:12 PM (T/7Cm)

91 Holy shit, berger, prayers up of course!

Kill Bill (both) remains the only entry/entries on my favorite movies list by Tarantino. It's one of the few movies I'll stop to watch on the odd chance I'm watching TV. (The other main one being Patton.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Can't Touch This! at September 23, 2017 08:13 PM (66CWr)

92 Lotta great films came out in 1967.

Wouldn't mind watching Bonnie & Clyde again. Been a long time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:13 PM (eMKNe)

93 I almost feel like writing a wall of text in response. But I doubt anyone will still be around to read it when I get done

So smaller wall:

Tarantino excels at creating scenes. He's simply the best living, right up there with Howard Hawks, Hitchcock and Leone. But he isn't great at story. He loves his own work too much to really cut it the way it needs to be cut.

Kill Bill is a bloated film. It did not, in any non-greed-based world, need to be two films.

The plot is a grindhouse basic one: the blood-spattered Bride goes after Bill, the man who "killed" her and took her baby.

All the rest of it is bloat. Fun bloat at times, but bloat. The movie is called 'Kill Bill', not 'Kill Bill and the Deadly Vipers'

There should have been at MOST three scenes with Bill's minions prior to meeting Bill himself. O-Ren is important because the revelation about her child comes from there. Budd is important because he's Bill's brother and he gets the drop on the 'unstoppable killing machine'. And Elle is important as both rival and final guardian of Bill.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:13 PM (xJa6I)

94
Well, They are finally releasing me from the hopital after two weeks.

Good news.

Were you in a coma? Did you dream?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:13 PM (IW5NJ)

95 I've also seen Starkweather credited with inspiring Kalifornia & Natural Born Killers.

I've never made up my mind about Carol Ann Fugate's role in the spree killings.

What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM (XlF/h)

96 I also wanted to tell you all:

Election, with Reese Witherspoon and Matthew Broderick, is coming out on Criterion blu-ray and DVD in November. They've been choosing some great flicks to reissue recently.

Guess what image is on the cover? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM (eMKNe)

97 74 Some things should just not be remade.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 08:08 PM (0NwUA)

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No shit!

Posted by: Charlton Heston at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM (gC2IV)

98
I've given up watching movies. Just can't stand the Same Old Bullshit anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:15 PM (IW5NJ)

99
What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM


In Cold Blood?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 08:15 PM (IqV8l)

100 93 There should have been at MOST three scenes with Bill's minions prior to meeting Bill himself. O-Ren is important because the revelation about her child comes from there. Budd is important because he's Bill's brother and he gets the drop on the 'unstoppable killing machine'. And Elle is important as both rival and final guardian of Bill.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:13 PM (xJa6I)

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The only other one is Vernita, and she's effectively in one scene that sets stuff up right at the beginning.

You call it close, but as long as I'm entertained I call it storytelling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:15 PM (Jj43a)

101 SAL 9000 "Will I dream?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:15 PM (tt7o8)

102 Bloat* not close

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (Jj43a)

103
Memento is linear, just running backwards.

No Spoilers!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (IW5NJ)

104 No step on snek!

Posted by: Selma Hayek at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (gC2IV)

105 Best based-on-true-crime flick ever?

Maybe Psycho. Didn't hurt that at the time it was made, Ed Gein was only recently in the news, so his shocking crimes were still fresh in the memories of its original audience.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (eMKNe)

106 103
Memento is linear, just running backwards.

No Spoilers!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (IW5NJ)

======

The butler did it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:16 PM (Jj43a)

107 I saw NBK once about twenty years ago. I'm just not a big Oliver Stone fan, so I've never felt the desire to revisit it.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:07 PM


Not a Stone fan either. But, "U-Turn" is incredibly under rated and a great black comedy. "Natural Born Killers" written by Tarantino, is worth another visit IMHO. Forget about Stone and try the flick on it's own merit (ditto U-Turn). It's completely bonkers, employing the whole gamut of film techniques, stock and editing. It's tone is jarring, it's like being injected with LSD, cocaine and whiskey... with a shotgun. But, it works in that classic old Tarantino style. It's kind of like his take on "Badlands", I guess. Give it another shot.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:17 PM (qGuLD)

108 Memento works for me because the conceit lets you see the world the way the protagonist does, without memory.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 08:17 PM (d5Jdx)

109 Pug your right, he was around 15 or slightly less giving birthdate to movie finished

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:17 PM (ghofu)

110 The butler did it.

With a lead pipe in the drawing room.

Now imagine if Tarantino made a Clue movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:18 PM (tt7o8)

111 He killed 11 people over two months and it shocked the nation. That's a Saturday night in Chicago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger
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Pfft. The Will Harris murders, five people, one night. It's quite a tale. I'm surprised that no one ever made a movie. http://tinyurl.com/y9jhnp7r

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 08:18 PM (58eZn)

112
The last movie I liked, which was just okay, was The Hollow Point.

Not a bad movie if you've got nothing else.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:18 PM (IW5NJ)

113 107 Not a Stone fan either. But, "U-Turn" is incredibly under rated and a great black comedy. "Natural Born Killers" written by Tarantino, is worth another visit IMHO. Forget about Stone and try the flick on it's own merit (ditto U-Turn). It's completely bonkers, employing the whole gamut of film techniques, stock and editing. It's tone is jarring, it's like being injected with LSD, cocaine and whiskey... with a shotgun. But, it works in that classic old Tarantino style. It's kind of like his take on "Badlands", I guess. Give it another shot.
Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:17 PM (qGuLD)

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I probably will at some point.

I don't hold anything against Stone. It's not like I see his name, sigh deeply, and prepare myself for hate. I genuinely love Wall Street, but almost everything else has left me cold. I try and I try. I've even given Alexander more than one go (that was a mistake).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (Jj43a)

114 Bonnie And Clyde was the beginning of horryweird making bad people the good guys to be looked up to and admired. IMO.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (zLDYs)

115 Loved Kill Bill, especially when Bill takes his last steps. Tarantino definitely seems to respect mothers as a Force of Nature.

Posted by: Jmel at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (85EAE)

116 Election, with Reese Witherspoon and Matthew Broderick, is coming out on Criterion blu-ray and DVD in November. They've been choosing some great flicks to reissue recently.

Guess what image is on the cover? ;-)


Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM


A fantastic flick.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (qGuLD)

117 John Wayne Gacy also inspired a lot of flicks.

Including "It," I would guess. (Gacy sometimes performed as a clown at kids' birthday parties.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (eMKNe)

118 I forgot Psycho, but... I did say however loosely.

Gein was just too crazy to be very interesting. He would've starved to death, if the Govt hadn't started sending him disability checks-- which he never asked for.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (XlF/h)

119 110 The butler did it.

With a lead pipe in the drawing room.

Now imagine if Tarantino made a Clue movie.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:18 PM (tt7o

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Bring it all together....

Tarantino is making that Charles Manson movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:20 PM (Jj43a)

120 In Memento, everybody exploits Lenny's condition at some point(including Lenny).

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 08:20 PM (BFYeS)

121 otho, yup!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:20 PM (eMKNe)

122 What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM

People have mentioned "In Cold Blood," but I really liked "Capote." Phillip Seymour Hoffman was so deep into the role that my son had no idea it was the same guy who portrayed Lester Bangs in "Almost Famous."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:20 PM (T/7Cm)

123 And now part 2, what NEEDED to be in Kill Bill:

I said we only need 3 minion kills before we get to Bill, but we do need more than just those three scenes.

We need the backstory of Bill and the Bride, seeing them together and happy prior to Pei Mei is important. So that can stay...but Pei Mei is frankly bloat.

So is O-Ren's animated backstory.

Hanzo needs to stay but it needs to come early. After the hospital escape, say.

That's it, I think.

I'd order it:
Introduction (crime scene)
Hospital
Hanzo
Crazy 88's/O-Ren
Pei Mei (?, still feels indulgent)
Budd
Elle
Bill and finale

That's all you need. Two hours, two and a half tops. Save the rest for a 'deleted scene' reel or 'extended edition' for DVD

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:21 PM (xJa6I)

124
The Trust starring Nick Cage and Frodo started out really good, and then turned to crap.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:21 PM (IW5NJ)

125 Just off the top of my head, and going from memory as I don't have time to pull out the DVDs and watch them, the anime sequence in "Kill Bill" reminded me in some ways of the animated sequences in "The Mystery of Rampo" if my memory is not failing me.

Now off to pick out and watch one of the Jeremy Brett, Sherlock Holmes episodes.

Posted by: geoffb at September 23, 2017 08:21 PM (zOpu5)

126 bergerbilder - Yikers! Stay strong...and relaxed. Prayers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 08:21 PM (58eZn)

127 Taranrino schmarinino, fug the lil Trump H8er.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Kenobe at September 23, 2017 08:22 PM (MIz97)

128 Bonnie And Clyde was the beginning of horryweird making bad people the good guys to be looked up to and admired. IMO.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (zLDYs)



Years ago (forget who) but someone wrote a story about just that. Bonnie and Clyde started that trend and how Rocky reversed that trend. Which was then followed by Star Wars and Superman bringing back (at least for a while) good guys being the heroes in the movies again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:23 PM (auHtY)

129 Star Wars ep 4 starts off with an action sequence.

So do many war movies such as Saving Private Ryan, Flags of our Fathers, etc.

First Bourne movie does.

Vanishing Point starts at the end of the car chase, and then flips back to the beginning.

Many Steven Seagal movies do.

I'm sure I can think of lots of others.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (w+Jhj)

130 What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM (XlF/h)

++++

Off the top of my head, Alpha Dog.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (pvjTE)

131 That's all you need. Two hours, two and a half tops. Save the rest for a 'deleted scene' reel or 'extended edition' for DVD


You are no fun at all.

I'll concede some bloat in the Pei Mei skit, the rest was necessary and so delicious to roll around in.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (gIRsn)

132
People have mentioned "In Cold Blood," but I
really liked "Capote." Phillip Seymour Hoffman was so deep into the role
that my son had no idea it was the same guy who portrayed Lester Bangs
in "Almost Famous."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:20 PM (T/7Cm)

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Definitely concur. Hoffman was an acting national treasure.


Posted by: Javems at September 23, 2017 08:25 PM (yOqwj)

133 True crime film:

I love Owning Mahowney, but it's more of a biopic than a crime film. Very funny. Gary Busey can ACT, btw.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:25 PM (XlF/h)

134 I'm sure I can think of lots of others.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (w+Jhj)



the Bond movies starting the Goldfinger start off with Bond finishing off some mission and some wiz bang action which leads to the titles and theme song.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:26 PM (auHtY)

135 The Bonny and Klyde with Fay and Warren is pretty good, watched it not long ago

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:26 PM (ghofu)

136 131 That's all you need. Two hours, two and a half tops. Save the rest for a 'deleted scene' reel or 'extended edition' for DVD


You are no fun at all.

I'll concede some bloat in the Pei Mei skit, the rest was necessary and so delicious to roll around in.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (gIRsn)

It IS delicious. That's the problem. You (and he) fall so in love with the tasty stuff that you end up with a meandering movie instead of a grindhouse nasty.

Look, if it was a novel, I'd say leave it all in. But a movie needs to be tighter.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:26 PM (xJa6I)

137 MST update: Just saw Mike and the 'bots sing "Merry Christmas...if that's Okay."

Prescient. and depressing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:27 PM (T/7Cm)

138 131
You are no fun at all.

I'll concede some bloat in the Pei Mei skit, the rest was necessary and so delicious to roll around in.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 08:24 PM (gIRsn)

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Ruthlessness is structure and plotting can be good, but I just don't understand how one can see the Esteban Vihaio scene and think that it should have been cut. It doesn't add much, but Michael Park's performance is so wonderful that you can't cut it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:27 PM (Jj43a)

139 122 What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM

Gotta give some love for a Korean film "Memories of Murder". Really well made, if you don't mind reading a movie, highly recommended.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:28 PM (xJa6I)

140 I only recently read, during the making of "Chinatown," Faye Dunaway actually splashed Roman Polanski with her own urine at one point.

Why? Because Polanski wouldn't let her take bathroom breaks during the shooting.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:28 PM (eMKNe)

141 What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?

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I liked Wonderland, about a mass murder porn star John Holmes got mixed up in.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:28 PM (Nwg0u)

142 United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

143 Ruthlessness is structure and plotting can be good, but I just don't understand how one can see the Esteban Vihaio scene and think that it should have been cut. It doesn't add much, but Michael Park's performance is so wonderful that you can't cut it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:27 PM (Jj43a)

Because it means nothing and reveals that Bill is bad. But we already know that. The performance is great but it drops right out of the movie without a ripple.

If you can cut something and the plot doesn't fall apart, it didn't need to be there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:29 PM (xJa6I)

144 142 United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

Ooof. Yeah, good point.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (xJa6I)

145 Wonder if Tarantino is still working on his Manson project.

I remember we had a fantastic discussion here about it some weeks ago, that it could work IF Tarantino can play it straight... and as we all know, he most likely cannot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (eMKNe)

146 logprof, oh man, good catch there about United 93.

Saw it in the theater. Loved it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (eMKNe)

147 "What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?"

The Untouchables was pretty good.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (w+Jhj)

148 142 United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

Thread.


Winner.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (T/7Cm)

149 Memento, by having the color sections run backwards -- or rather, forwards, but each section is the one preceding the previous one -- puts you in the main character's position of not remembering what just happened. This best illustrated by the scene that starts with him running and a car alarm going off, and he thinks, "Hmm, what am I doing? Oh, I'm chasing this guy..."

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:31 PM (ynUnH)

150 Best movie based on a true crime? How about "To Die For?"

Nicole Kidman was so great in that.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:31 PM (W+vEI)

151 United flight 93 is a war movie

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (ghofu)

152 I am astonished that someone capable of recognizing the greatness of "Jackie Brown" is blind to the massive flaws of "Kill Bill" and "The Hateful Eight."

"Kill Bill" is a bloated, self-indulgent cartoon and Tarantino's career was probably saved when they forced him to split it in two. People would have been walking out of the theater in droves.

But while "Kill Bill" was a genius pleasing himself too much, "The Hateful Eight" just flat out sucks. It is a stunningly inept work that feels like it was only made because the time period gave Tarantino an excuse to use his beloved N-word.

Mike

Posted by: MBunge at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (pwT6S)

153 Lizzy, To Die For is also a great flick.
A film I wish I could have made.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (eMKNe)

154 144 142 United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

Ooof. Yeah, good point.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM (xJa6I)

--To be sure, it was almost more a documentary than a "movie". Lots of peeps playing themselves.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (GsAUU)

155 I think 8 1/2 (Otto e Mezzo) was non-linear. I'm pretty sure of this because all I can recall is a bunch of disjointed scenes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (/qEW2)

156 >>United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.

Oh.....that one was so tough to watch. Waited until the 10 year mark to finally watch it and cried through it.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:33 PM (W+vEI)

157 151 United flight 93 is a war movie
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (ghofu)

--Tru dat.

I watch it every 9/11.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:33 PM (GsAUU)

158 --To be sure, it was almost more a documentary than a "movie". Lots of peeps playing themselves.
Posted by: logprof


Uh... how is that possible?
There were no survivors of United 93.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:33 PM (eMKNe)

159 155 I think 8 1/2 (Otto e Mezzo) was non-linear. I'm pretty sure of this because all I can recall is a bunch of disjointed scenes.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (/qEW2)

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Linear with a bunch of fantasy sequences.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:34 PM (Jj43a)

160 "13 Hours" was great, too, and equally hard to watch (though it was anger, not tears).

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:34 PM (W+vEI)

161 158 --To be sure, it was almost more a documentary than a "movie". Lots of peeps playing themselves.
Posted by: logprof

Uh... how is that possible?
There were no survivors of United 93.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:33 PM (eMKNe)

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There's more to the movie than what happens in the plane.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:34 PM (Jj43a)

162
Memento was a very good movie and kept you on your toes. Came out around the same time as Mullholland Drive which was a real WTF kind of movie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:35 PM (auHtY)

163 Dropping that scene in Kill Bill about Esteban, remember what Charlie Sheen said about what he thought was his big scene in Red Dawn about telling the others about the Soviets killing those people and it not being in the theatrical release. And his father telling him the reason the scene got dropped was because you don't need to tell the audience again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:35 PM (tt7o8)

164 Crime movies; random thoughts:

1) Robert Blake's performance in Hoffa was just f'n extraordinary! But again, it's a biopic, not a "crime film" per se.

2) The Counterfeiters (Aus. "Der Falschers") is great & based on real events, but again, "crime movie" doesn't fit very well.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:35 PM (XlF/h)

165 Damn, TCU took Oklahoma State to school.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:35 PM (GsAUU)

166 Lizzy, oh man.

When I first watched "Schindler's List" on TV, it made me furiously angry.

I would have very much liked to see Ralph Fiennes' Nazi leader character (who was he playing?) torn from limb to limb at the end of that film.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:35 PM (eMKNe)

167 TJM, oh yeah. THAT is true.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (eMKNe)

168 158 --To be sure, it was almost more a documentary than a "movie". Lots of peeps playing themselves.
Posted by: logprof

Uh... how is that possible?
There were no survivors of United 93.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:33 PM (eMKNe)

--FAA and military.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (GsAUU)

169 Greatest movie of all time? The Day the Earth Stood Still

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (Sfs6o)

170 you end up with a meandering movie instead of a grindhouse nasty.


Now I shall gratuitously tell my Grindhouse story, full of bloat ;-)

I snuck out of work to catch a matinee of Grindhouse. Literally snuck out, just poof no more Bander. I snuck out early enough that there was time for about three gin and tonics at the neighborhood bar beforehand.

Now, I was the only one in the theater. The movie opens with all the "grindhouse" effects, the pops in the soundtrack, the scratches on the film, the occasional loss of focus. It really has the feel of a 1970s grindhouse experience.

So I thought to myself, if this were a 70s dive theater, I'd be watching it through the hazy curls of cigarette smoke. I lit up.

In my defense, I considered this performance art. I was part of recreating the experience. It was Art, dammit.

It was also Cambridge, MA. They threw me out so fast it made my head spin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (gIRsn)

171 139 122 What is the best movie ever based, however loosely, on a real crime?
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:14 PM


I'd go with 'Heavenly Creatures'.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (gG2l4)

172 To Die For was about Pamela Smart, right?

Weird story.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

173 logprof, oops. Sorry. ;-)

Bandersnatch, LOL. ;-)
Another one of the joys of blurays and DVDs, my man!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:37 PM (eMKNe)

174 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 08:38 PM (KCxzN)

175 171 I'd go with 'Heavenly Creatures'.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 08:36 PM (gG2l4)

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Hot damn, that movie is awesome.

Especially it's final seconds and shot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:38 PM (Jj43a)

176
Apollo 13 Hours

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:38 PM (IW5NJ)

177 Soothsayer, that would be quite the mashup. ;-)

How about "In Cold Blood Simple"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:38 PM (eMKNe)

178
How about "In Cold Blood Simple"?

oh good one

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (IW5NJ)

179 "In The Heat Of The Night Of The Living Dead"
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (eMKNe)

180 The Untouchables is not only a great movie, it has one of the greatest soundtracks. It's almost too good, the music can distract one from the movie.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (ynUnH)

181 128 Bonnie And Clyde was the beginning of horryweird making bad people the good guys to be looked up to and admired. IMO.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 08:19 PM (zLDYs)



Years ago (forget who) but someone wrote a story about just that. Bonnie and Clyde started that trend and how Rocky reversed that trend.

Rocket J. Squirrel fighting the evil Russians.

Posted by: Rocky and Bullwinkle at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (OKuv5)

182 I almost got thrown out of Jaws for smoking, Bander.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (zLDYs)

183 I appreciate the work that went into the post, but it doesn't make me want to see "Kill Bill" at all.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

184 >>To Die For was about Pamela Smart, right?


Weird story.


Yes. Lived in MA when it happened so I was familiar with the story going in.
Which brings us to an upcoming MA true crime movie: "Chappaquiddick."
Apparently it is not all that sympathetic to ol' Teddy. Abut dang time Hollywood stops the Kennedy worship.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (W+vEI)

185
To Die For Your Eyes Only

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (IW5NJ)

186 "The Walking Dead Man Walking"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (eMKNe)

187
United 93 was a pretty good movie based on a crime.

Tora Tora Tora

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (IqV8l)

188 I find Kill Bill unwatchable. It seems like a film made by a man who emotionally and intellectually remains a 14-year-old. I don't get the love for it at all.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (H5knJ)

189 But while "Kill Bill" was a genius pleasing himself too much, "The Hateful Eight" just flat out sucks. It is a stunningly inept work that feels like it was only made because the time period gave Tarantino an excuse to use his beloved N-word.

Mike
Posted by: MBunge at September 23, 2017 08:32 PM (pwT6S)


When they showed it at a local theater, 2 rows of empty seats got up and walked out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (gG2l4)

190 160 "13 Hours" was great, too, and equally hard to watch (though it was anger, not tears).
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:34 PM (W+vEI)

Michael Bay's best movie. He did a great job not doing that thing he does. I both love and hate that movie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (T/7Cm)

191 179 "In The Heat Of The Night Of The Living Dead"
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (eMKNe)

They call me MISTER zombie!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (NWiLs)

192 If you want to look at non-linear storytelling, go to the film that Tarantino stole the idea from: Kubrick's The Killing.

Great heist flick, perfect film noir ending.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (iFZVz)

193 Lizzy, oh man.

Hearing Chappaquddick is really tough on Ted Kennedy. It must not have been produced with traditional Hollywood money.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (eMKNe)

194
A View To A Kill Bill

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (IW5NJ)

195 13Hours

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (0NwUA)

196 Insomniac, LOL ;-)

"They got a zombie infestation up there. They don't know what to do with it."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (eMKNe)

197 190 160 "13 Hours" was great, too, and equally hard to watch (though it was anger, not tears).
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:34 PM (W+vEI)

Michael Bay's best movie. He did a great job not doing that thing he does. I both love and hate that movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 08:41 PM (T/7Cm)

It's an excellent movie but absolutely rage inducing.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:42 PM (NWiLs)

198 We all float down here?

Posted by: Mary Joe Kopechne, It Girl at September 23, 2017 08:42 PM (H5knJ)

199 183 I appreciate the work that went into the post, but it doesn't make me want to see "Kill Bill" at all.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

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Hours wasted!

*Throws self on floor*

I've failed!

*Sobs quietly*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 08:42 PM (Jj43a)

200 >.It was also Cambridge, MA. They threw me out so fast it made my head spin.

Heh. Now if it had been a joint...?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:42 PM (W+vEI)

201 173 logprof, oops. Sorry. ;-)

Bandersnatch, LOL. ;-)
Another one of the joys of blurays and DVDs, my man!
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:37 PM (eMKNe)

--The biggest bit of artistic license in United 93 was Greengrass portraying the German national on the flight as conciliatory with the terrorists, being in the "9/10" mode of hijackings as negotiations. That passenger's family were pissed about that, but we have no way of knowing.

In any event, the hijackings-as-negotiation concept was SOP at the time for airlines, and the government, regardless of what any passenger thought.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:42 PM (GsAUU)

202 logprof, yup. It took guts for Greengrass to include that in the film IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:43 PM (eMKNe)

203 She's kind of a movie star. Madonna has sold a big 3,848 copies of her new album.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (Nwg0u)

204 I cannot watch any of the 9/11 and aftermath movies.

The whole subject makes me too angry. I'd be seething after 2 hours on that subject.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (H5knJ)

205 Wonder if Tarantino is still working on his Manson project.

I remember we had a fantastic discussion here about it some weeks ago, that it could work IF Tarantino can play it straight... and as we all know, he most likely cannot.


Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:30 PM


He's gonna have to work on the script like he never has before. It's his first outing on a historical series of events. If he gets it right, it could be brilliant. If not, it will be a total trainwreck. He's well equipped to tackle it as a subject, it's not like The Family didn't feature a lot of character driven, acid soaked craziness that was sometimes darkly funny. If he hits just the right balance in delivery, it could be a classic. I just don't know if he can let go of his "genre tribute, grindhouse" thing now. I'd be more confident if Avary was working on it too.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (qGuLD)

206 Anonosaurus, wow!!!!!!

Madonna is still alive?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (eMKNe)

207 She's kind of a movie star. Madonna has sold a big 3,848 copies of her new album.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (Nwg0u)



That many?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:44 PM (auHtY)

208 A Bridge To Far and Away

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (ghofu)

209 >>Hearing Chappaquddick is really tough on Ted Kennedy. It must not have been produced with traditional Hollywood money.

Yes, surprising. I'm thinking it was pitched as a sequel of sorts to last year's "Jackie." And you know Hollywood can't resist a sequel.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (W+vEI)

210 13 Hours is great.

Yes, and rage-inducing.

Speaking of which, I may watch Black Hawk Down tonight.

My BP is too low.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (GsAUU)

211 I just couldn't get in to Heavenly Creatures.

Me bad. Failed. Bored me.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (XlF/h)

212 otho, exactly.

Same as how I feel about the upcoming Blade Runner 2049. I predice it'll either be a stone cold masterpiece or a complete utter blood-soaked trainwreck.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (eMKNe)

213
Black Hawk Down And Out In Beverly Hills

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (IW5NJ)

214 49 *gasp* a wonderful review.

Posted by: David Carridine at September 23, 2017 08:01 PM (/qEW2)

===========

Heh. I was going to make an auto-erotic suicide comment, but didn't want to be crude. ;-)

Kung Fu was my favorite TV show growing up. I didn't know until I saw the movie "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" that that TV series was Bruce Lee's idea and he pitched it so he could star in it after his cult-like fame from "The Green Hornet" -- but Hollywood wouldn't cast an actual Asian to play the leading man back then.

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (BiLU+)

215 Apparently it is not all that sympathetic to ol' Teddy. Abut dang time Hollywood stops the Kennedy worship.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:39 PM (W+vEI)

--Yeah, what good would it have done to make such a movie in 1975?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (GsAUU)

216 "It's an excellent movie but absolutely rage inducing.

Posted by: Insomniac"

Kinda like Blackhawk Down then.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (w+Jhj)

217 208 A Bridge To Far and Away

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (ghofu)


Up close, too.

Posted by: The Bridge at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (OKuv5)

218 Lizzy, LOL.

If it had been produced by the Jackie people, Chappaquiddick would have been made and marketed as a romantic comedy most likely. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:46 PM (eMKNe)

219 "Speaking of which, I may watch Black Hawk Down tonight.



My BP is too low.

Posted by: logprof"

You posted this as I was typing #216

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:47 PM (w+Jhj)

220 When they showed it at a local theater, 2 rows of empty seats got up and walked out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (gG2l4)

++++

It emptied out the empty seats?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 08:47 PM (pvjTE)

221 Yes, and rage-inducing.

Speaking of which, I may watch Black Hawk Down tonight.

My BP is too low.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:45 PM (GsAUU)



Now there's a movie where after seeing it, I just want to start carpet bombing Somalia

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:47 PM (auHtY)

222 Chappaquiddick - "Nothing says I love you like letting someone drown. A truly romantic film about Ted and Mary Jo." New York Times

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:48 PM (tt7o8)

223
Now there's a movie where after seeing it, I just want to start carpet bombing Somalia
Posted by: TheQuietMan


We need to import more of them, not.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 08:48 PM (IqV8l)

224 Run Lola Run Fatboy Run

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:48 PM (NWiLs)

225

Pee-Wee's Big Score

Posted by: Ricky Retardo at September 23, 2017 08:48 PM (qul7b)

226 Sooth, also sounds great ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:48 PM (eMKNe)

227 "Now there's a movie where after seeing it, I just want to start carpet bombing Somalia

Posted by: TheQuietMan"

I was thinking more along the lines of a dozen AC-130's all unloading on the town at once, but your idea is OK to.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:49 PM (w+Jhj)

228 Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood

No, wait, already done.

This schtick should be ended.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:49 PM (GsAUU)

229 Anna, EXACTLY!!!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:49 PM (eMKNe)

230 Flight of the Phoenix, the original: The best part about casting Jimmy Stewart in the lead was that he was, in fact, a decorated bomber pilot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (V2Yro)

231 ok, tarantino thought of them like novels, vol. I & II. i wouldn't have the slightest interest in reading two novels about ninja's. and that's the thing, i find his subject matter, drenched in blood, uninteresting.

so, what about chase scenes? wasn't the first movie a chase scene or something. (everyone likes bullit but my favorite is the french connection.).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (AxFdW)

232 Romancing the Stone Cold

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (NWiLs)

233 "Now children what do you say to the nice man?"

"Are you my Daddy?"

Talk about a scene that could never get made in today's Soviet Justice Wanking vapor-rama.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (tt7o8)

234 What film emptied the empty seats? I lost the thread on the thread

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (XlF/h)

235 Doctor No Way Out.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 08:51 PM (gC2IV)

236
The Killing Fields Of Dreams

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:51 PM (IW5NJ)

237 Kunduntouchables.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:51 PM (ynUnH)

238 Gone With the Wind In the Willows. The effect of the civil war on the innocent forest creatures.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

239 Black hawk down is one that will suck me in as soon as I see its on. I hhavd been working on top 3 war movies and it might be on that list.
Penn state just got s safety, lead 5 -0 over Iowa

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 08:52 PM (ghofu)

240 219 "Speaking of which, I may watch Black Hawk Down tonight.



My BP is too low.

Posted by: logprof"

You posted this as I was typing #216
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:47 PM (w+Jhj)

--I know, right?

Do I need to tell this crowd that Bill Clinton is a shitstain?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)

241 The Unbearable Lightness of Being There

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (W+vEI)

242 234 What film emptied the empty seats? I lost the thread on the thread

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:50 PM (XlF/h)

++++

The Hateful Eight

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (FUu/Z)

243 LOLOLOL. You guys are on fire.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (eMKNe)

244 I think by saying two rows of empty seats walked out, he was saying no one walked out, the audience really liked the movie.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (ynUnH)

245

Behind the Green Mile.

Posted by: Ricky Retardo at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (qul7b)

246 Took the wife to see the new Kingsmen movie. It's over the top like the first, we both enjoyed it, but the wife felt it had too much profanity.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2017 08:53 PM (6n332)

247 Private Benjamin Button

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (W+vEI)

248 The Postman Always Rings Twice in Chinatown

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (tt7o8)

249 The Longest Hard Day's Night.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (Nwg0u)

250 When they showed it at a local theater, 2 rows of empty seats got up and walked out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 08:40 PM (gG2l4)



That reminds me of a Jack Benny joke about his movies being so bad. That one movie was only being shown in funeral homes and it was so bad the corpses got out of their coffins and walked out on it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (auHtY)

251 I thought Kalifornia was an excellent film. I have yet to meet a woman who had any use for it, and not that many men, either.

The connection to Starkweather/Fugate is very hard for me to sign off on.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (XlF/h)

252
Twelve Angry Men In Black

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:54 PM (IW5NJ)

253 Clash of the Titanic.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:55 PM (ynUnH)

254 "Do I need to tell this crowd that Bill Clinton is a shitstain?

Posted by: logprof"

Preacher, choir, etc.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 08:55 PM (w+Jhj)

255
Drop Dead Fred Claus

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:56 PM (auHtY)

256
Private Benjamin Button


ooh!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:56 PM (IW5NJ)

257 Or maybe that the audience hated it so much that even the empty seats walked out. I don't know.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 23, 2017 08:56 PM (ynUnH)

258 qdpsteve: Amon Goeth, Schindler's "partner" and supervisor.

As for cutting down Kill Bill, I agree that plot wise it makes sense. In terms of the meta plot, it does not. The Mexican pimp has some charm, but he is also remorselessly evil, butchering a woman's face. Pai Mei is a bigoted psychopath: Hanzo clearly feels responsible for enabling Bill's villainy, and probably should. The Bride does not "deserve" her victory any more than the others would, being the leader of her fellow lady assassins. Even the excuse of her motherhood does not wash: she ruthlessly executes Vernita in front of her child.

Kill Bill is a study of villains: their flaws, their merits. I think its message is badly confused and missed by many viewers, but I think being against the idea of murder in general, and revenge more specifically, makes it a good movie.

Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 08:56 PM (4Vhe3)

259
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Alone

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (IW5NJ)

260 The Longest Day of The Jackal.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (gC2IV)

261 The Longest Day of the Triffids

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (NWiLs)

262 trev006, thanks. :-)

Great ones people! For some reason I can't think of any other than:

"The Longest Day Of The Jackal"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (eMKNe)

263 And Duke beat me to it. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (eMKNe)

264 Though I must admit: showing Budd as a broken down bouncer should have been cut down to one scene, mainly this former pro hitman cleaning a filthy washroom. Or something.

Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM (4Vhe3)

265
The Longest Day of the Jackal!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (IW5NJ)

266 Oregon

"I wanted to see your new movie, but I was sick that day."

David Spade to Steve Martin

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (XlF/h)

267

Couples Retreat, Hell!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (auHtY)

268 IMO Black Hawk Down is Ridley Scott's best.

> Gladiator > Blade Runner

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (GsAUU)

269
has anyone done Longest Day of the Jackal yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (IW5NJ)

270 Friday the 13th Warrior

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 08:59 PM (NWiLs)

271
Superman of La Mancha

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 08:59 PM (auHtY)

272
The Lawnmower Man On Fire

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:59 PM (IW5NJ)

273 Wall Street Car Named Desire

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 08:59 PM (gC2IV)

274
has anyone done Longest Day of the Jackal yet?

Not me

Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 23, 2017 08:59 PM (IqV8l)

275 Caddy Shack in the Woods of Deliverance

Rodney, "Man when they said this golf course was off the beaten path, they weren't kidding. Hey is that banjo music I hear?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:00 PM (tt7o8)

276 has anyone done Longest Day of the Jackal yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 08:58 PM (IW5NJ)


Amy Schumer is about to

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:00 PM (auHtY)

277 The Empire Strikes Back to the Future

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:00 PM (NWiLs)

278 Empire of the Sun Strikes Back

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (tt7o8)

279
The Spy Who Loved Me, Myself, & Irene

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (IW5NJ)

280 Boyz N The Burbs

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (GsAUU)

281 Though I must admit: showing Budd as a broken down bouncer should have been cut down to one scene, mainly this former pro hitman cleaning a filthy washroom. Or something.


Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 08:57 PM


Couldn't get enough of it. Madsen stole that movie IMO.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (qGuLD)

282 Guardians of the Galaxy Quest

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (NWiLs)

283 Blades of Fury Road

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (gC2IV)

284 The Money Pit And The Pendulum

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (eMKNe)

285 Gone in Sixty Seconds over Tokyo

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2017 09:01 PM (tr2D7)

286
The Godfather of the Bride

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:02 PM (IW5NJ)

287 Repo Man Of Steel

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:02 PM (eMKNe)

288 Funny Girl, Interrupted

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:03 PM (NWiLs)

289 The Main Event Horizon

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:03 PM (GsAUU)

290 The Princess Bride of Frankenstein

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:03 PM (NWiLs)

291
Live and Let Die in LA

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:03 PM (auHtY)

292 Life of Brian's Song

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 09:03 PM (KCxzN)

293
It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World War Z

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:04 PM (IW5NJ)

294 All of Me, Myself, I

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:04 PM (W+vEI)

295 Legends of the Fall of the House of Usher

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

296 once upon a time in the west side story

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:05 PM (AxFdW)

297 Boondock Saint Vincent.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:05 PM (xJa6I)

298 the simpsons of katie elder

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:05 PM (AxFdW)

299 Capricorn One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:05 PM (JyFLk)

300 Maximum Overdrive-ing Miss Daisy

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (gC2IV)

301

Dirty Harry and Tonto

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (auHtY)

302 Music Man of La Mancha

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (tr2D7)

303
Dude, Where's My Car Wash

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (IW5NJ)

304 Apocalypse Now You See Me

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (GsAUU)

305 The Bridges of Toko-Ri County

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (5VlCp)

306 Raging Bull Durham

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (JyFLk)

307 301

Dirty Harry and Tonto
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (auHtY)

I'd watch that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:06 PM (xJa6I)

308 My fave non limear is the movie MASH. No one except the director even knew what the vision was. The actors complained about Altman, the suits were worried, and the screen writer was pissed that they disregarded his words and practically ad libbed the entire movie. He was irate and disgusted....and then won the Oscar for best screenplay.

But as an example of non linear it was brilliant.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (99Nt9)

309
Jaws: The Revenge Of The Nerds.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (qGuLD)

310 Penn state just got intercepted

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (ghofu)

311 The Nightmare Before Christmas On Elm Street

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (GsAUU)

312 TD Iowa

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (ghofu)

313 Penn state just got intercepted

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (ghofu)



I can't place those movies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (auHtY)

314 Silent Running Scared

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (KCxzN)

315 Strike up the Band of Brothers.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (11H2y)

316 Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice, Sweet Alice

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (NWiLs)

317 Twelve O'clock High Plains Drifter

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (tr2D7)

318 Bob And Carol And Ted And Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (eMKNe)

319
North by North West side Story

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (auHtY)

320 292 Life of Brian's Song

Threefer:

Life of Brian's Song of Norway.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (gG2l4)

321 Red Dawn of the Dead

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (xJa6I)

322 Dirty Harry and Tonto.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (11H2y)

323 310 Penn state just got intercepted
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:07 PM (ghofu)

--and scored on.

Whoa, better check phrasing with PSU.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (GsAUU)

324 Rock and Roll High School for Scandal

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (xJa6I)

325 308: very good.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (AxFdW)

326 3 favorite Prison movies
Great Escape
Cool Hand Luke
Stalag 13

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (ghofu)

327 The Hunt for Red October Sky.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (I11+c)

328 2001 Ways to Die in the West

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (w+Jhj)

329 Debbie Does North Dallas Forty

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:09 PM (xJa6I)

330 whoops, sorry, didn't see that. My bad.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (11H2y)

331 Fast and Furious Times at Ridgemont High

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (tt7o8)

332 318 Bob And Carol And Ted And Alice...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (eMKNe)


Ah yes, ye olden days, when wife-swapping was the kinkiest sex we had heard of...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (gG2l4)

333 My Blue Heaven is for Real

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (W+vEI)

334
To Trap a Spy Who Came in From the Cold

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (auHtY)

335 Everybody's All American Pie

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (JyFLk)

336 332 318 Bob And Carol And Ted And Alice...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:08 PM (eMKNe)

Ah yes, ye olden days, when wife-swapping was the kinkiest sex we had heard of...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (gG2l4)

And it didn't turn out well. Almost realistic there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:10 PM (xJa6I)

337
Scarface/off

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (IW5NJ)

338 A Bridge To Fargo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (Nwg0u)

339 Legend of Hell House on Haunted Hill

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (xJa6I)

340 And the Band Played On Golden Pond

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (W+vEI)

341 326 - I'm a little more partial to Caged Heat

Posted by: The Gutter at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (H5knJ)

342 The Great Escape From New York

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (KCxzN)

343 Young Frankenstein meets the Wolfman

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (w+Jhj)

344 Live and Let Die Hard

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (I11+c)

345 Otho:

Huh. I would say Madsen stole Reservoir Dogs, with his overly shined up sadism, but do you think he actually stole Vol 2? I would have reserved that honor for Carradine.

Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (4Vhe3)

346 Dead Bang the Tim Drum Slowly

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (xJa6I)

347 The Brain That Wouldn't Die Another Day

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (eMKNe)

348 Shakespeare in Love Actually

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (11H2y)

349 Godzilla, King of the Monsters Inc.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (o0Pn2)

350 Life is Beautiful Girls

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (xJa6I)

351 Blue Steel Magnolias

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (gG2l4)

352 347 The Brain That Wouldn't Die Another Day
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (eMKNe)

I'd also watch that

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:12 PM (xJa6I)

353 Thunderballs of Fury

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (JyFLk)

354 Debbie Does North Dallas Forty

-
Deep in the endzone?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (Nwg0u)

355 The Magnificent Se7en

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (NWiLs)

356 Tropic Blue Thunder

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (tt7o8)

357 345 Otho:

Huh. I would say Madsen stole Reservoir Dogs, with his overly shined up sadism, but do you think he actually stole Vol 2? I would have reserved that honor for Carradine.
Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM (4Vhe3)

=====

They're both really good, but I agree with Otho.

Madsen demonstrates a wounded sadness that really exemplifies his scenes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (Jj43a)

358 Mother, Jugs and Speed 2: Collision Course

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (xJa6I)

359 Pee Wee's Big Poseidon Adventure

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (H5knJ)

360 3 favorite Prison movies

Caged Heat

Black Mama, White Mama

Angels in Chains episode of Charlies Angels, (featuring a Farah Fawcett nip slip on network TV!).



OK, kidding. Your movies are classics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (gIRsn)

361 In the Heat of The Night Hawks

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (gC2IV)

362 The Thin Man On Fire

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (o0Pn2)

363 Run silent run deep throat

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (11H2y)

364 Saturday Night Fever Lake

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (xJa6I)

365 Cutthroat Island of the Damned.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (gG2l4)

366 Rain Man On Fire

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (eMKNe)

367
28 Days of Thunder

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (IW5NJ)

368 I suspect Kill Bill (or something like it) was on Tarantino's mind for quite a while. the Vipers were described as the TV show "Fox Force Five" in the restaurant scene in Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (17QyB)

369 Generation Kill Bill

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (o0Pn2)

370 If MSU doesn't get their act together, we won't get to see Bryan Kelly's special purple face.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:14 PM (JyFLk)

371 The Jungle Book of Eli

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (W+vEI)

372 Lake Placid - come for the hockey, stay for the giant alligators and Betty White.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (tt7o8)

373 Vanilla Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

374 The Island of Dr. Zhivago.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (I11+c)

375 I love Owning Mahowney, but it's more of a biopic than a crime film. Very funny. Gary Busey can ACT, btw.

Not disputing that, but in "The Buddy Holly Story" I always expect his teeth to fly out of his mouth and start attacking people.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (4TkUe)

376 The Man From Uncle Buck

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (eMKNe)

377 that thing you do the right thing.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (11H2y)

378 354 Debbie Does North Dallas Forty

-
Deep in the endzone?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM (Nwg0u)

You know it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (xJa6I)

379 The Color Purple Rain

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (KCxzN)

380 All of Me, Myself and Irene

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (xJa6I)

381 The Man Who Knew Too Much Ado About Nothing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (gG2l4)

382 That Hong Kong Fuey guy from Kill Bill died in some kinda sex auto thing. Weird.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (bc2Lc)

383 373 Vanilla Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

Oh Nice

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (xJa6I)

384 Rogue One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (o0Pn2)

385 Freddy VS Jason Bourne

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (gC2IV)

386 War movies leaning on
Master and Commander
Black Hawk Down
Battleground

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (ghofu)

387 368 - That's exactly what Kill Bill seems like to me - Fox Force Five, The Movie, which is a terrible fucking idea.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (H5knJ)

388

Santa Clause Versus The Martian

Posted by: Ricky Retardo at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (qul7b)

389
The Notebook of Eli?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:16 PM (IW5NJ)

390 Gone Baby Gone Girl

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

391 Just popped in Black Hawk Down.

OBL and BJ *SPIT*

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (GsAUU)

392 Otho:

Huh. I would say Madsen stole Reservoir Dogs, with his overly shined up sadism, but do you think he actually stole Vol 2? I would have reserved that honor for Carradine.


Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM


I guess I'm counting both vols, but maybe more vol 1? Not sure... but, probably, yeah. He certainly carried much of Reservoir Dogs, but had fierce competition from Buscemi in that one. I like Madsen, anyway, but the whole Budd story in KB was the best part of that flick, for me.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (qGuLD)

393 Red Dawn of the Dead Calm

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (o0Pn2)

394 Krampus Conquers the Martians

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (tt7o8)

395

Masturbater and Commander

Posted by: Ricky Retardo at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (qul7b)

396 Alexander the Great Escape from New York

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:18 PM (gG2l4)

397 I suspect Kill Bill (or something like it) was on Tarantino's mind for quite a while.


Tarantino's mind is an interconnected non-linear universe. Madsen in ResDogs is Vic Vega, Travolta in PulpFic is Vince Vega. Keitel's ex-robbery partner in ResDogs is a girl named Alabama, like Christian Slater's wife in True Romance. There's more.

It's like it's all a stew and he only forces bits of it to make sense one movie at a time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 09:18 PM (gIRsn)

398 392 Otho:

Huh. I would say Madsen stole Reservoir Dogs, with his overly shined up sadism, but do you think he actually stole Vol 2? I would have reserved that honor for Carradine.


Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2017 09:11 PM


I guess I'm counting both vols, but maybe more vol 1? Not sure... but, probably, yeah. He certainly carried much of Reservoir Dogs, but had fierce competition from Buscemi in that one. I like Madsen, anyway, but the whole Budd story in KB was the best part of that flick, for me.
Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:17 PM (qGuLD)

Tarantino also knows how to get great performances out of actors. Robert Forester, David Carradine, Madsen, Travolta...all shine with Tarantino and often fall flat without him after.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:18 PM (xJa6I)

399 388 - oooh, nice. very witty.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:19 PM (11H2y)

400 While You Were Sleeping With Other People

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:19 PM (W+vEI)

401 Rocky Horror Picture Show Biz Bugs

(Bugs Bunny as Frankenfurter. The mind boggles.)

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 23, 2017 09:19 PM (w+Jhj)

402 Beauty and the Beast Master and Commander

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:19 PM (o0Pn2)

403 Return of the King of New York

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:19 PM (xJa6I)

404 And when you realize in The Shining that "noodluM" is "Muldoon" backwards knocked me on my ass!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (mJ8mX)

405 Dirty Harry and Tonto.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (gG2l4)

406 Bandersnatch, that's not a stew. More like the Chicken ala King MRE.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (tt7o8)

407 Demolition Man on Fire

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (W+vEI)

408 Black Hawk Down with Love?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (xJa6I)

409 Dead Man Walking Tall

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (11H2y)

410 Total Recall of the Wild

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2017 09:20 PM (JyFLk)

411 Dirty Harry & the Hendersons.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (I11+c)

412 I haven't seen Muldoon in a while. How's he doing?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)

413 Room With A View To A Kill

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (gG2l4)

414 Robert Forester, David Carradine, Madsen, Travolta...all shine with Tarantino and often fall flat without him after.


Carradine didn't fall flat. The belt held his body up.

(too soon?)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (gIRsn)

415
The Pope of Greenwich Village of the Damned

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (IW5NJ)

416 The Invisible Man on Firestarter

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (o0Pn2)

417 The Green 8 Mile

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)

418 The Mothman of La Mancha Prophecies

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (H5knJ)

419 On The Town.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (11H2y)

420 They're both really good, but I agree with Otho.

Madsen demonstrates a wounded sadness that really exemplifies his scenes.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:13 PM


Bingo. Spot on. It's a fantastic performance and the substory was worthy of a movie in it's own right.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (qGuLD)

421 empire of the sunset boulevard

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (AxFdW)

422 Can't Stop the Music Man

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)

423 So the belt was a prop?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (tt7o8)

424 The Hateful Eight Is Enough

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (eMKNe)

425 412 I haven't seen Muldoon in a while. How's he doing?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)


He showed up in the Morning Rant thread yesterday. Seemed OK to me.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (gG2l4)

426 415
The Pope of Greenwich Village of the Damned
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (IW5NJ)

Nice

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (xJa6I)

427 Around the World in 80 Gays.

Posted by: Barry at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (bc2Lc)

428 the jerk

store called and they're running out of you

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (AxFdW)

429 [praying for a nood]

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (GsAUU)

430 War of the Roses are Red

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (I0I+D)

431 Working Girl With All the Gifts

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (W+vEI)

432 Strange Days of Raging Bull

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (o0Pn2)

433 If one were to check on YouTube "What if Tarantino made Spaghetti and Meatballs" you will find something stylish, well, in Kill Bill style.

However, I will post a Lego GTA link because it is far more fun

https://youtu.be/z3Y0HrdUvS8

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2017 09:23 PM (Gv+zt)

434 The Fearless Vampire Killers Once Bitten

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:24 PM (tt7o8)

435 The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombieland

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:24 PM (xJa6I)

436 A Little Night Music Man

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:24 PM (11H2y)

437 The Hateful...8 1/2?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 23, 2017 09:24 PM (H5rtT)

438 425 412 I haven't seen Muldoon in a while. How's he doing?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)

He showed up in the Morning Rant thread yesterday. Seemed OK to me.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (gG2l4)

Ah good, thanks OM

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:24 PM (xJa6I)

439 Breaking Away 2: Bloomington Boogaloo.

Posted by: Lance Armstrong at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (bc2Lc)

440 429 [praying for a nood]

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:22 PM (GsAUU)


There will be no nood.

(at least not from me)

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (gG2l4)

441 The notebook of Eli

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (gC2IV)

442 Since it looks like we're winding down, thanks again, TJM.

Good post.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (xJa6I)

443 Top Gun Fight at the OK Corral

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (I0I+D)

444 412 I haven't seen Muldoon in a while. How's he doing?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:21 PM (xJa6I)

Hard to say. is being an unapologetic punster and limerick-creator a good thing or a bad thing?

But, yeah, he's still with us.

For which we are blessed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (T/7Cm)

445

And Justice For All The President's Men

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:26 PM (IW5NJ)

446

Father Goose Grease

Posted by: Shemp Smith, Greased Up Bastard at September 23, 2017 09:26 PM (qul7b)

447 Never Give A Sucker An Even Breaker Morant

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:26 PM (gG2l4)

448 437 -stringer davis, that's brilliant. I'm pouring a beer in my USB port for you. Cheers!

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:26 PM (11H2y)

449 Three Men and a Little Lady & The Tramp

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (gC2IV)

450 Run Silent, Run Deep Impact

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

451 Three Men and Rosemary's Baby

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (H5knJ)

452 442 Since it looks like we're winding down, thanks again, TJM.

Good post.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (xJa6I)

=====

But... We disagree about something.

Are you sure you know how the internet works?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (Jj43a)

453 Local Hero At Large

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (eMKNe)

454 The High Road to China Syndrome

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:28 PM (gC2IV)

455 441 The notebook of Eli
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (gC2IV)

Aw, crap. Looks like I missed a great movie-mashup thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:28 PM (T/7Cm)

456 I'm trying to think of the last movie I saw in a theater. I think it was "13 Hours", or maybe Part 2 of "Atlas Shrugged". I never did see Part 3.

Maybe it was "Gravity". I don't remember in what order they were released.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

457 Rosemary's Baby Driver

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:28 PM (NWiLs)

458

Shaving Private Jack Ryan

Posted by: Shemp Smith, Greased Up Bastard at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (qul7b)

459 Huh.

Oddly, thanks for all the kill bill spoilers ... never seen it / them, likely never will, so interesting to me.
Actually, maybe I would watch , after reading all that ...

Is the Simpsons still on ?
Gotta be a decade since I watched an episode ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (Z8R9P)

460 Cloud Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (NWiLs)

461 The Guns of August Rush

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (I11+c)

462 451 Three Men and Rosemary's Baby
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (H5knJ)

Ha!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (T/7Cm)

463 Picnic at Hanging Rock. Dog Day Afternoon of a Faun. And Justice for All the the King's Men. My Blue Heaven Can Wait. Ok, I've got it all out of my system.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (11H2y)

464 Knight and Day For Night

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (gG2l4)

465 "However, I will post a Lego GTA link because it is far more fun"

Some of the Lego WW2 vids are very well done. The Berlin 45 ones are quite graphic though.

*splut*

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 09:30 PM (sf2BM)

466 The Hateful 8mm

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:30 PM (H5knJ)

467 Anne of a Thousand Days of Wine and Roses

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:30 PM (gG2l4)

468 Thank's TJM. This is awesome. It's funny that for two people with thoroughly divergent tastes in film - you seem to hate movies i like and vice versa - we actually totally agree on Kill Bill. I wonder why.

Posted by: Mega at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (rv0Fo)

469 452 442 Since it looks like we're winding down, thanks again, TJM.

Good post.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:25 PM (xJa6I)

=====

But... We disagree about something.

Are you sure you know how the internet works?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:27 PM (Jj43a)

LOL

I'm not even sure we disagree. We just see different things in the same film.

People who can articulate their point of view, as you've done so well, are the only people worth disagreeing with anyway.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (xJa6I)

470 456 I'm trying to think of the last movie I saw in a theater. I think it was "13 Hours", or maybe Part 2 of "Atlas Shrugged". I never did see Part 3.

Maybe it was "Gravity". I don't remember in what order they were released.
Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

--Last one I saw in theater was American Sniper.

It was in the second-run cheapie theater at that.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (GsAUU)

471 Buckaroo Banzai Across the Guardians of the Galaxy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (T/7Cm)

472 Reservoir Dogs of War

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:32 PM (H5knJ)

473 A Knight's Tale of Despereaux

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

474 The Wild Brady Bunch

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:32 PM (eMKNe)

475 Never could get into Kill Bill, either one. So that was a quick scroll-by

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 23, 2017 09:32 PM (z2W2E)

476 459 Huh.

Oddly, thanks for all the kill bill spoilers ... never seen it / them, likely never will, so interesting to me.
Actually, maybe I would watch , after reading all that ...

Is the Simpsons still on ?
Gotta be a decade since I watched an episode ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 23, 2017 09:29 PM (Z8R9P)

Yep. Though very little since season 8 or so has been worth watching.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:32 PM (xJa6I)

477 Some like it Hot Fuzz
Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead Calm

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:33 PM (W+vEI)

478 The Outlaw Josie and the Pussycats

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:33 PM (I11+c)

479 471 Buckaroo Banzai Across the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (T/7Cm)

I would also watch that.

Just got my GOTG 2 blue ray

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:33 PM (xJa6I)

480 Super 8 Men Out

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

481 Guardians of the Game of Thrones

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (tt7o8)

482 She's Gotta Have It Follows

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

483 Some liberties taken with spelling in movie titales.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (GsAUU)

484 Kill Bill: On His Own

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (H5knJ)

485 468 Thank's TJM. This is awesome. It's funny that for two people with thoroughly divergent tastes in film - you seem to hate movies i like and vice versa - we actually totally agree on Kill Bill. I wonder why.
Posted by: Mega at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (rv0Fo)

======

I love that about these.

I know when I write pays that highlight certain movies, I know that people will disagree so I have to hope that I just explain myself well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (Jj43a)

486 There's Something About Mary Reilly

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM (eMKNe)

487 The Hunchback of Notre Dame's Coach is an Asshole

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (gC2IV)

488 The Call of the Wild Bunch

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (Nwg0u)

489 I couldn't get through Kill Bill or The Hateful Eight because of all the violence. I just don't get it. I may give Kill Bill another shot after reading this post though.

Posted by: sinalco at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (yODqO)

490 469
People who can articulate their point of view, as you've done so well, are the only people worth disagreeing with anyway.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:31 PM (xJa6I)

=====

You're really kind. Thank you very much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (Jj43a)

491 A Night to Remember the Titans

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (I0I+D)

492 Tropic Blue Thunder

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 23, 2017 09:36 PM (z2W2E)

493 Varsity Blues Brothers

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:36 PM (eMKNe)

494 The Great Escape from Witch Mountain

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

495 Titales????

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:36 PM (11H2y)

496 Is Guardians of the Galaxy on Netflix?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:37 PM (gC2IV)

497 Can The Bride put Sonobi on her Kill List?

Posted by: sinalco at September 23, 2017 09:37 PM (yODqO)

498 The Lion King Kong

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:38 PM (Nwg0u)

499 487 The Hunchback of Notre Dame's Coach is an Asshole
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (gC2IV)


When did that "Notre Dame's Coach is an Asshole" movie happen?



Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:38 PM (I0I+D)

500 the story of oooooooooklahoma

where the...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:38 PM (AxFdW)

501 If you think about it, this whole thing has been a Dream Sequence, and I won.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Tarantino at September 23, 2017 09:39 PM (Ndje9)

502 I've seen none of these movies and don't ever plan too. It is fascinating though reading everyone's critiques of them.

Reading your thread TJM did motivate me to watch Terminator Genisys and Salvation. Both of which I liked. Going against the grain there, I know.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 09:39 PM (sf2BM)

503 They Died With Their Boots On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:39 PM (gC2IV)

504 Requiem for a Midsummer Night's Dream

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (H5knJ)

505 487 The Hunchback of Notre Dame's Coach is an Asshole
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (gC2IV)


Hmmm... Don't think I'm familiar with that second movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (gG2l4)

506 Watching Black Hawk Down for the umpteenth time . . . amazing what our boys did there in ridiculously constrained circumstances.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (GsAUU)

507 Stagecoach Carter

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (I11+c)

508 Whatever Happened to Baby Jane Eyre

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (I0I+D)

509 The Grapes of Wrath of Kahn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (Nwg0u)

510 I love that about these.

I know when I write pays that highlight certain movies, I know that people will disagree so I have to hope that I just explain myself well.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 23, 2017 09:34 PM


Well, I'm much more inclined to revisit Kill Bill after this analysis and play closer attention to structure. It's a movie that I have mixed feelings about. I wanted to love it, as it has some fantastic bits, but felt it didn't really turn my crank, as a whole movie/s. I rated it good, but kind of disappointing compared to his work up to Jackie Brown. Will go back and see if it was the timing that influenced my feelings about it.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (qGuLD)

511 489 I couldn't get through Kill Bill or The Hateful Eight because of all the violence. I just don't get it. I may give Kill Bill another shot after reading this post though.
Posted by: sinalco at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (yODqO)


I've seen "Pulp Fiction" and maybe "Reservoir Dogs". I agree with James Lileks that Tarantino is violence porn.

I remember a scene in one of those movies where everybody in the room was pointing a gun at someone else's head. That was mildly amusing.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (sdi6R)

512 What About Bob's Burgers

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (I11+c)

513 I don't need Tarantino's "Manson," if I want to watch a film about Manson I'll pull out my copy of "Manson." http://tinyurl.com/yahzswwm It's weird and twisted enough.

Posted by: geoffb at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (zOpu5)

514 Just got my GOTG 2 blue ray
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 09:33 PM (xJa6I)

A rare case where the sequel surpasses the original. I absolutely love this movie. It's fun, original, often poignant, and wonderfully free of an "powerful message."

The Lego Batman movie is another thoroughly enjoyable movie. Numerous belly-laughs. But chock-full of characters growing in an organic way.

My desire to temporarily separate from the real world is why I love these super happy fun movies, and why I am so deeply committed to watching every episode of MST 3k chronologically.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (T/7Cm)

515 Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfen

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (eMKNe)

516 No Country for Old Men in Tights.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (11H2y)

517
Blackhawk Down was bill clinton's Benghazi.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (IW5NJ)

518 501 If you think about it, this whole thing has been a Dream Sequence, and I won.
Posted by: Hillary Rodham Tarantino at September 23, 2017 09:39 PM (Ndje9)


No, there's been a glitch in the Matrix.

Posted by: The Prevert Wachowski Bros. at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (gG2l4)

519 505 487 The Hunchback of Notre Dame's Coach is an Asshole
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:35 PM (gC2IV)

Hmmm... Don't think I'm familiar with that second movie.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:40 PM (gG2l4)



I know! lol I think someone tried to cheat a little. Is that a Red Flag? A Challenge like in Scrabble? A Notre Dame pissed off fan?

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (I0I+D)

520 516 No Country for Old Men in Tights.
Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (11H2y)


Good one.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (gG2l4)

521 South Pacific Rim

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (ghofu)

522 The Empire Strikes Back to the Future

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (6n332)

523 The Hunchback of Notre Dame to Kill For

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (I11+c)

524 Little Big Man On the Moon

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (Nwg0u)

525 521 South Pacific Rim
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (ghofu)

There ain't nothing like a jaeger!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (NWiLs)

526 Cape Fear And Desire

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (eMKNe)

527 South Pacific Rim

"I gotta wash this monster off my suit"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (Ktewm)

528 520 516 No Country for Old Men in Tights.
Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (11H2y)

Good one.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (gG2l4)

--Agreed

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (GsAUU)

529 A very good thriller that has an extended flashback segment is "Return from the Ashes" with Ingrid Thulin, Maximillian Schell, Herbert Lom and Samantha Eggar. It has one of the most chilling opening sequences evah! Great soundtrack too. A failed movie with an impossible to follow flashback sequence is Bogie's "Passage to Marseille". The Casablanca cast can't save it.

A little off topic: I just rewatched Don's Party on Youtube and was surprised at how well it stood up. It would be cool to see an updated version based on a party watching election returns on Nov 8, 2016.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (y9C7q)

530 The King and I, Robot

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

531 I really shouldn't see the front of the ONT because I will most likely be up by 0430hrs. You get up like that for years its hard not to automatically

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:45 PM (ghofu)

532 Spaceballs of Fire.

Happy Texas Chainsaw Massacre

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:45 PM (T/7Cm)

533 thanks, OregonMuse!

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (11H2y)

534 Blackhawk Down was bill clinton's Benghazi.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (IW5NJ)

--and the ember for 9/11

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (GsAUU)

535 Vivi, good one!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eMKNe)

536 Legend of the Guardians of the Galaxy Quest

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (o0Pn2)

537 Chariots of Fire in the Sky

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (NWiLs)

538 528 520 516 No Country for Old Men in Tights.
Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:42 PM (11H2y)

Good one.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:43 PM (gG2l4)

--Agreed
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:44 PM (GsAUU)

Thirded

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:46 PM (T/7Cm)

539 Could try for 6 #2's

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:47 PM (ghofu)

540 I remember a scene in one of those movies where everybody in the room was pointing a gun at someone else's head. That was mildly amusing.
Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 09:41 PM (sdi6R)


Reservoir Dogs.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 23, 2017 09:47 PM (17QyB)

541 The Lion King And I, Claudius

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:47 PM (I11+c)

542 Two other movies that were non-sequencial since they were based on nonsequential books: Slaughterhouse 5 and Catch 22

Posted by: Minuteman at September 23, 2017 09:47 PM (3nBGR)

543 Edge of Tomorrow Never Dies

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

544 1984 Your Eyes Only In America

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:48 PM (eMKNe)

545 Oh, a really effective out of sequence movie is "He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not." French film and I don't want to spoil...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:48 PM (W+vEI)

546 I wanted to be a Prison Matrix when I grew up.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Tarantino at September 23, 2017 09:49 PM (Ndje9)

547 A movie I want to see is the 1964 version of "The Killers," directed by Don Siegel.

You won't believe who plays the bad guy. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:49 PM (eMKNe)

548 Grumpy Old Men in Black

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:49 PM (I0I+D)

549 541 The Lion King And I, Claudius
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:47 PM (I11+c)


Nice 3-fer!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:50 PM (gG2l4)

550 Attack of the Killer Fried Green Tomatoes.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 09:50 PM (sf2BM)

551 Close Encounters of the Seventh Sign

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:50 PM (T/7Cm)

552 Left Behind the Green Door.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 09:51 PM (BFYeS)

553 Well then
Men in Black Hawk Down

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 09:51 PM (ghofu)

554 Black Hawk Down the movie does not even touch on the absurdity the way BHD the book does.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:51 PM (GsAUU)

555 You won't believe who plays the bad guy. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:49 PM (eMKNe


Dutch?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:51 PM (gG2l4)

556 Can't Buy Me Crazy, Stupid Love

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2017 09:52 PM (W+vEI)

557 Planet of the Gorillas in the Mist.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:52 PM (T/7Cm)

558 Vanilla Sky Fall

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:52 PM (gC2IV)

559 Midnight Cowboy in the Garden of Good and Evil

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:52 PM (H5knJ)

560 The Quiet Man on Fire

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2017 09:52 PM (6n332)

561 Mother, Jugs, and Speed Racer

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:53 PM (gG2l4)

562 OregonMuse, sounds like you saw it :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:53 PM (eMKNe)

563 The Good The Bad And The Ugly Betty

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (eMKNe)

564 Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill Bill

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (NWiLs)

565 Really!? I checked in to get movies and took me five comments to realize youz guyz wer fucking around.

I asked Heidi if we ever watched No Country For Old Men in Tight. LMAO!

DUH!!!!

Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (dCikz)

566 First Blood and Chocolate

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (I0I+D)

567 Return of the King of Marvin Gardens

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (gG2l4)

568 Ice Pirates of the Carribean

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2017 09:55 PM (6n332)

569 Jeebus! Laughing so hard. I could do this all night. I'm the guy who wants to do this bit long after everyone else moves on.

Paint your Wagon Train!

Derp!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 09:55 PM (T/7Cm)

570 562 OregonMuse, sounds like you saw it :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:53 PM (eMKNe)


Had an imdb tab open, so I cheated.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:55 PM (gG2l4)

571 Mutiny on The Bounty Hunter

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:55 PM (gC2IV)

572 Beauty and the Beast of War

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:55 PM (I11+c)

573
Grumpy Old Men in Black

...Hawk Down....

And Out In Beverly Hills...

Have Eyes...

Wide Shut...

-ter...

Island...

of Dr. Moreau!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (IW5NJ)

574 The African Queen Of The Damned

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (eMKNe)

575 Bringing Up Baby Frankenstein.

There.


Heidi's pick.

Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (dCikz)

576 564 Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill Bill
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 09:54 PM (NWiLs)


Another good one.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (gG2l4)

577 Fuckin' skinnies.

Hey, let's import them!

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:57 PM (GsAUU)

578 Mississippi Burning Bed

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 09:57 PM (eMKNe)

579 I will have a hard time explaining to people on Monday exactly what I did on Saturday night.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (11H2y)

580 Anatomy of a Murder on the Orient Express

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (I0I+D)

581
The Eyes of Laura Mars Attacks

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (IW5NJ)

582 nanook of the north dallas forty

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (AxFdW)

583 579 I will have a hard time explaining to people on Monday exactly what I did on Saturday night.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (11H2y)


Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (dCikz)

584 The Thin Red Line Between Love and Hate

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (H5knJ)

585 NYPD Blue Ruin

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 23, 2017 09:59 PM (I11+c)

586 10,000 Leagues Under The Sea of Love

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 09:59 PM (gC2IV)

587 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 09:56 PM (IW5NJ)


Show-Off! ;-)

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 09:59 PM (I0I+D)

588 ONT

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (TdMsT)

589 584 The Thin Red Line Between Love and Hate
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (H5knJ)


As a 3-fer:The Thin Red Line Between Love and Hateful 8.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (gG2l4)

590 One Flew Over the Cookoos Nest from Here To Eternity

Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (dCikz)

591 577 Fuckin' skinnies.

Hey, let's import them!
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 09:57 PM (GsAUU)


YYYYAAAARRGGGH!

That is all.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (T/7Cm)

592 The Last Rocky Horror Picture Show

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (11H2y)

593 588 ONT
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 23, 2017 10:00 PM (TdMsT)

--God is good.

All the time.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 10:01 PM (GsAUU)

594 583 579 I will have a hard time explaining to people on Monday exactly what I did on Saturday night.

Posted by: vivi at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (11H2y)



Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 23, 2017 09:58 PM (dCikz)

I always just say, oh, you know, worked on my hunny-do list.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 10:02 PM (T/7Cm)

595 I know it's a poor reflection on me, but I would love to see well done trailers for a lot of these films.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 23, 2017 10:03 PM (H5knJ)

596 the thin red line between love and hateful 8 is enough

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 23, 2017 10:03 PM (AxFdW)

597 Vampire's Kiss Me Kate

Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 23, 2017 10:04 PM (I0I+D)

598 40 Also everyone: got copies finally of Mulholland Drive and The Conversation, based on all your raves.

Posted by: qdpsteve

I thought that movie was horrible. A disjointed mess. With a crappy ending on top. I want my 90+ minutes back, dammit.

But I've watched the Kill Bills 3 or 4 times. Good stuff there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 23, 2017 10:05 PM (0ogQG)

599 How times has Red Dawn of the Dead been posted?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 23, 2017 10:10 PM (LuKE7)

600 As always, I used to love movies but when the Movie Thread is posted, I am rendered silent.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2017 10:50 PM (l9m7l)

601 See, from a storytelling point of view, Kill Bill was pretty bad in a lot of ways. Primarily because you never really are invested in any of the characters, especially The Bride. Aside from being a killing machine, she's not really very interesting or sympathetic. Part of that is because Uma is a terrible actress, part of it is because the dialog and behavior of the other characters doesn't match her (they keep treating a rather plain woman as the 'most beautiful woman on earth'). But mostly its because Tarantino is doing a Samurai/Man With No Name style story but with a woman.

What works to make a man interesting and likable doesn't work with a woman. So just swapping out the genders fails in its basic task of making you give a crap how things play out for the character. She was a cardboard cutout, a stand in doing the stunts but irrelevant to the story at large. Even delivering Tarantino's lines she doesn't really resonate at all.

And ultimately, Bill is played up as the worst man on earth, but honestly he doesn't come across that way. He comes across as no worse than the people he works with or hires. He's bad, but not so bad that a man comes out of retirement to make the ultimate sword for. And honestly, that entire sequence was pretty much padding. The sword was irrelevant, as much as it was played up. It was just a sword, in the end. No better or worse than any other.

Kill Bill was not bad, but it wasn't particularly good either. It was significantly longer than it needed to be - a problem Tarantino has suffered with more every film he makes - and was very full of its self. As Ace would say, it insists upon its self.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 23, 2017 10:51 PM (39g3+)

602 Wow. What a wasted movie thread.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 10:54 PM (XlF/h)

603 The Hateful Eight was his worst movie. They set it up that it would be all strangers and it would be a mystery. Turns out, everyone one each other and everyone at Cabin when they got there were the bad guys.

Posted by: rexbatt at September 23, 2017 11:13 PM (PrdV6)

604 Quentin Tarantino needs an editor very badly, but for a lot of Hollywood directors, the more successful and established they get, the more they think they know best and editors get in the way. A good editor is even more important than a good director, they are the ones that truly build the story. Ignoring them can really hurt your work.

There are only a few directors who can edit their own stuff effectively such as Hitchcock and Scorcese, and they not coincidentally are some of the best directors in existence. Tarantino is entertaining but he is NOT Hitch or Scorcese.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 23, 2017 11:33 PM (39g3+)

605 It's a chopper, baby.

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2017 11:34 PM (z74gh)

606 Fuck it......
The Searchers.....

Greatest Western Ever. Hands down.

The other contenders fall short in comparison, (although some come close)......

Magnificent Films transcend......regardless of their pedigree.

All the Best Y'all, Y'all deserve it.
HBK

Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 24, 2017 02:11 AM (toZO/)

Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread (Featuring Dress Pr0n) 09-23-2017

chess pic 20170923.jpg(click for slightly larger version)

Problem 1 - Black To Play (578 )

Hint: Black wins material


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3r2k1/5pp1/5n2/2Q5/8/8/4P1P1/5K2 b - - 0 1

Problem 2 - White To Play (W&A 9)

Hint: Black's queen is looking mighty vulnerable there


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rn3rk1/pp3ppb/2p4p/2Pn1P2/3NN3/4q2P/PP3RB1/R2Q2K1 w - - 0 1


Problem 3 - White To Play (BWTC 48 )

Hint: White mates in, at most, 8


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2r2b1r/pN1k2pn/2pP1p2/4Pqnp/2Q5/2P3P1/PP4BP/2KRR3 w - - 0 1


Problem 4 - White To Play (577)

Hint: White can stave off the mate by winning material


20170923 - Problem 4.jpg
6k1/5pb1/1p1N3p/p5p1/5q2/Q6P/PPr5/3RR2K w - - 0 1

(h/t ChessZebra)


Endgame of the Week (579)

White to move. Is his one-pawn advantage enough to win? If so, how?

Hint: Deflect the bishop at the opportune time


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8/8/b7/7p/P2P4/3k3B/8/K7 w - - 0 1


Dress Pr0n For The 'Ettes

Stepping Out, 1908. Got to love those hats!

20170923 dress pr0n 1908.jpg


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I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes. They can't be comfortable. This is why I believe high-heeled shoes were invented by Nazi sadists.

___________

Solutions Update

Problem 1 - Black To Play


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3r2k1/5pp1/5n2/2Q5/8/8/4P1P1/5K2 b - - 0 1

Black can fork White's king and queen:

1...Rd1+!
2.Kf2 Ne4+
3.Kf3 Nxc5 and wins


Problem 2 - White To Play


20170923 - Problem 2.jpg
rn3rk1/pp3ppb/2p4p/2Pn1P2/3NN3/4q2P/PP3RB1/R2Q2K1 w - - 0 1

1.Nc2!

Traps the queen

1...Qxf2+

Best to minimize loss. Play might continue:

2.Kxf2 Bxf5
3.Nd6 Be6
4.Bxd5 cxd5
5.Nxb7 Nc6
6.Nd4 and wins


Problem 3 - White To Play


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2r2b1r/pN1k2pn/2pP1p2/4Pqnp/2Q5/2P3P1/PP4BP/2KRR3 w - - 0 1

1.Qf7+ Nxf7
2.e6+ Qxe6

If instead Black tries to run for with 2...Ke8 then 3.d7+ Ke7 4.dxc8=N+ Ke8 5.Bxc6#

3.Nc5+ Kd8

Or 3...Ke8 4.d7+ Kd8 5.Nxe6+ Ke7 6.dxc8=N+ Ke8 7.Bxc6#

4.Nxe6+ Kd7
5.Nc5+ Kd8
6.Nb7+ Kd7
7.Bh3+ f5
8.Bxf5#


Problem 4 - White To Play (577)


20170923 - Problem 4.jpg
6k1/5pb1/1p1N3p/p5p1/5q2/Q6P/PPr5/3RR2K w - - 0 1

So, in order to stop Black from delivering mate on h2, White needs to strike early and often, beginning with

1.Re8+! Kh7

The other move, 1...Bf8? leads to mate in short order:

1...Bf8
2.Rxf8+ Kxf8
3.Nf5+ Kg8
4.Qf8+ Kxf8 (or 4.Rd8+ Kh7 5.Rh8+ Kxh8 6.Qf8+ Kh7 7.Qg7#)
5.Rd8#

So, with 1...Kh7, Black avoids mate, but loses material. For example:

2.Qd3+ f5
3.Qxc2 Qf3+
4.Kg1 Qg3+
5.Qg2 f4
6.Qxg3 fxg3
7.Re7 and wins


Endgame of the Week


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8/8/b7/7p/P2P4/3k3B/8/K7 w - - 0 1

In this problem, the first move is obvious: save the pawn.

1.d5 Bb7
2.d6 Bc6

Black has now got his bishop where he wants, guarding d7 and a8. But...

3.Bd7!!

A killer move that will give White time to advance his pawn.

4...Bxd7

4.a5 h4

Futile for Black is 4...Bc6 5.a6 h4 6.a7 h3 7.d7 Bxd7 8.a8=Q

5.a6 h3
6.a7 Bc6
7.a8=Q!

Not good is 7.d7? h2 8.d8=Q+ Kc2 and White is in serious trouble, i.e. 9.Qb8 h1=Q+ 10.Ka2 Qd5+ 11.Ka1 Qd4+ 12.Ka2 Qa4#

7...Bxa8
8.d7 Ke3
9.d8=Q Bg2
10.Qf6 and wins

Black's king is cut off from his pawn and rook. White can now bring his king up and trap it on either the edge of the board or against his own pieces, 10...Ke4 11.Kb2 Kd5 12.Qf4 Kc5 13.Kc3 Kd5 14.Qf5+ Kd6 15.Kd4, etc.

Hope to see you all next week!


___________

Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

___________

So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:09 PM




Comments

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1 Got back from the local large liquor store a little while ago. It's their 8th anniversary. Nice sign out front read "Blues, Booze and BBQ".

And it was all FREE! They even give you a swag bag if you get there early enough, so I got one. But boy howdy was that store jammed.

Posted by: HH at September 23, 2017 05:08 PM (mIJBI)

2 dad gum

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:09 PM (ODr92)

3 I like this painting

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 05:09 PM (ghofu)

4 Missed by 1, probably because I had to think what to write.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 05:10 PM (ghofu)

5 Game stuff:

Red Dead Redemption is delayed till 2018!! Ugh! At the ripe age of 29 my interest in games has sadly faded a bit. But I was starting to get excited about Red Dead Redemption. The graphics are just jaw dropping.

OT stuff:

What's up with the Trumps tweets about NFL? Whats the fallout so far?

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:11 PM (q177U)

6 I is too easy
R- 1d+, K has togo to F2
N-d4 + and stick a fork in them

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 05:12 PM (ghofu)

7 Those ladies look too risque for 1908 USA.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:12 PM (ODr92)

8
Women in red high heels is a basic human right for guys. Some UN agency said so.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 05:13 PM (ZNCi6)

9 In that 1908 picture forget the hats. Think about how painful those corsets had to be to get that narrow of a waist. Also, if that photo came from England those ladies would be called PBs. Professional Beauties.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

10 Vic, did you see the note about re-naming files?

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:16 PM (ODr92)

11
"Whats the fallout so far?"

The good thing about PDT is that he's not been terrorized into silence by the Left. Once they could just recite the incantation "racist, sexist, homophobe" and people would shut up. The spell is being broken by Trump. No wonder the Left has gone crazy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2017 05:17 PM (ZNCi6)

12 10
Vic, did you see the note about re-naming files?

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:16 PM (ODr92)

No I didn't.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2017 05:17 PM (mpXpK)

13 I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes.

--------------

Perhaps the modeling agency could just get taller models?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 05:18 PM (gC2IV)

14 It's here: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=371704#c27656984

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:20 PM (ODr92)

15 Perhaps the modeling agency could just get taller models?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 05:18 PM (gC2IV)


Could be worse. At least foot-binding never really caught on here in the West.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 05:21 PM (gG2l4)

16 Made the mistake of going on twitter today. I soon remembered why I don't do that any more. Twitter is a sewer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 05:21 PM (gC2IV)

17 Those three ladies at the top look formidable.

They seem used to power, probably over men, and devil take the hindmost.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:23 PM (hyuyC)

18 There won't be any more fall out from Trump's NFL comments today than there are with any other comment made by Trump. He has driven his enemies into madness.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2017 05:25 PM (uPadd)

19 Is the NFL burning?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:26 PM (SjImc)

20 14
It's here: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86post=371704#c27656984

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:20 PM (ODr92)


OK I successfully deleted Office-365 (Office 2016) and it no longer opens under that if I click directly on the file. It now opens in Open Office. if I call up Excel 2000 first I can still open the Excel file instead of the Obt file that OO uses. But it is easier to make shortcuts that open the file directly with the assigned program.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2017 05:26 PM (mpXpK)

21 #GamerGate: Electric Boogaloo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVKtnQeuRw

The gaming review industry has learnt NOTHING from the last time they were called on their corruption, except to slander gamers for complaining. So, it is still corrupt; retracting critical reviews when a developer whines about a bad review they deserve.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 05:26 PM (6FqZa)

22 Wonder if those women from 1908 were Suffragettes.

Posted by: HH at September 23, 2017 05:27 PM (mIJBI)

23 The first problem is

R - 1d+ K F2
N - d4+ and fork the Queen.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:27 PM (hyuyC)

24 Game between the good witch and the bad witch looks even, but we don't know where that bishop has been or is going in her hand

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 05:27 PM (ghofu)

25 Is the NFL burning?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:26 PM (SjImc)


We can only hope so.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 05:28 PM (gG2l4)

26 EA has won two golden turds for being the worst company in America, and for destroying studios (like BioWare). Tryin' for the hat-trick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsGY6HkEYCw

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 05:28 PM (6FqZa)

27 So is the NFL and that fat kim in North Korea bestest friends?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:28 PM (SjImc)

28 Baby take off your coat, real slow
Baby take off your shoes
Here I'll take those shoes
Baby take off your dre
Yes, yes, yes
You can leave your hat on.

Randy Newman

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 23, 2017 05:29 PM (DoZ9m)

29 Ummmmmmmm.

Stilietos.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 23, 2017 05:30 PM (h7sWp)

30 In 1908 waist squeezes but have been in style.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 05:30 PM (ghofu)

31 Championship teams in both the NBA and the NCAA said Saturday they will not be visiting President Trumps White House to celebrate their victories.

The Golden State Warriors said Trump made the decision for them when he disinvited their all-world guard Stephen Curry earlier in the day.


And North Carolinas 2017 national championship Tar Heels will also not show up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, a team spokesman said on Saturday, the News & Observer reported.

Fuck UNC ( and I USED to be a big fan)...Go Duke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:31 PM (SjImc)

32 22
Wonder if those women from 1908 were Suffragettes.

Posted by: HH at September 23, 2017 05:27 PM (mIJBI)



Probably not. The favorite costume of the suffragettes was Bloomers which were considered "shocking" when they first came out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2017 05:31 PM (mpXpK)

33 Wow! 1908! The one nearest the camera!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 23, 2017 05:32 PM (d5OWu)

34 Endgame.

Yes, just keep moving the D4 pawn forward. It can not be stopped without losing the black bishop.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:33 PM (hyuyC)

35 I thought it before but someone wrote it first.

McStains wants make sure Zeppelin tits gets that View gig.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 23, 2017 05:34 PM (h7sWp)

36 I feel like the NFL has the weakest position out of all the sports franchises. It's anecdotal but the basketball fans I know seems super loyal. And the NFL already has the stench of Kapernick stinking up the joint.

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:36 PM (q177U)

37 Endgame: Why not start with BF1+ and immediately turn a one-pawn advantage into a one-bishop advantage?

Posted by: The LLurking LLama at September 23, 2017 05:37 PM (4tV+0)

38 The red floral dress goes well with long hair.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:37 PM (hyuyC)

39 keep shoveling that shit nfl. can't wait for all the ex jocks and coaches to be out of the limelight. self important turds forgotten in less than a week. fuck em. let it burn.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 23, 2017 05:38 PM (KP5rU)

40 "I don't understand why women wear shoes like that."


Because men want them to. I want them to. Maybe I shouldn't try to speak for anyone else here.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2017 05:38 PM (Pz4pT)

41 I feel like the NFL has the weakest position out of all the sports franchises. It's anecdotal but the basketball fans I know seems super loyal. And the NFL already has the stench of Kapernick stinking up the joint.
Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:36 PM (q177U)

Consussions, lawsuits, injuries, mom's not allowing their kids to play...but yeah go alienate 1/2 ( or more probably) your audience...great future.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:38 PM (SjImc)

42 I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes. They can't be comfortable. This is why I believe high-heeled shoes were invented by Nazi sadists.

I don't think it's Nazis. I think it's from the Chinese. High heels give the illusion that women's feet are smaller, which is an aesthetic from the Chinese.

Even in elementary school they taught us that Cinderella probably originated as a Chinese fable, because one of the proofs that the step-sisters were "evil" was that their feet were too big to fit into the lost glass slipper.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 05:39 PM (/qEW2)

43 I feel like the NFL has the weakest position out of all the sports franchises. It's anecdotal but the basketball fans I know seems super loyal. And the NFL already has the stench of Kapernick stinking up the joint.
Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:36 PM (q177U)


The folly of hubris.

Gets 'em, every time.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2017 05:40 PM (Pz4pT)

44 9 In that 1908 picture forget the hats. Think about how painful those corsets had to be to get that narrow of a waist. Also, if that photo came from England those ladies would be called PBs. Professional Beauties.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

++++

The title of that work is Ladies at Longchamp 1908.

There are a few different uses of the word "Longchamp", but I think this one is the Paris racecourse.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki
/File:Ladies_at_Longchamp_1908.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longchamp_Racecourse

It looks like the ladies were going to a horse race.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 05:40 PM (pvjTE)

45 Democrat Donna Edwards called on ALL NFL Players to kneel during the National Anthem.

BUT BUT BUT they love America and this is not racial. Yeah sure. Hey I got a bridge in brooklyb for sale also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:40 PM (SjImc)

46 Before I logged off twitter today:

Hey @NFL, you realize there are fans outside of NYC, right?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2017 05:41 PM (gC2IV)

47 Endgame: Why not start with BF1+ and immediately turn a one-pawn advantage into a one-bishop advantage?
Posted by: The LLurking LLama at September 23, 2017 05:37 PM (4tV+0)


Because there's something better, believe it or not.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 05:41 PM (gG2l4)

48 >>>#GamerGate: Electric Boogaloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVKtnQeuRw

Thanks for the videos, boulder. I've been recommending Internet Historian channel. This is a video about 4Chan vs Tumblr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvjwXhCNZcU

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:42 PM (q177U)

49 11 Hadrian

I think that's absolutely right. People are learning not to let the left screech them into silence, & Trump deserves a great deal of the credit!

I think people are starting to think, if he can't be bullied, why should I let myself be?

RE: 1908 women photos

I think those are some Edward VII girls. There was a group of them called "The Souls" who hung out with him. "All I know about The Souls is that they all have beautiful bodies," it was said.

1908 would be right down the middle of the plate for Edward VII, and I note the wasp waists, which is consistent.

Paris Demi-monde girls used to say, " 'Allo Wales!"

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:43 PM (eXZrW)

50 Hi, OM!

Still chipping away at the novel.

It's so tough when on the one hand new material pops up in my head, and on the other I struggle to come up with the right names, terms of art, and allusions.

Oh, and fuck antifa.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:44 PM (GsAUU)

51 The three ladies seem to be French, non-aristocratic, and not quite upper class. They are attending the Hippodrome de Longchamp outside of Paris. It could be for the signature race, the horse race Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe in the fall of 1908.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:44 PM (hyuyC)

52 I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes. They can't be comfortable. This is why I believe high-heeled shoes were invented by Nazi sadists.

--See also: Chinese foot-binding.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:45 PM (GsAUU)

53 https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
column-1/marines-letter-to-nfl/

Posted by: bdc at September 23, 2017 05:46 PM (ZKlDy)

54 mnw

French upper middle class women.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:46 PM (hyuyC)

55 Like those 1908 hats?

I'll recycle a comment from last week and suggest you Bing "Monet woman with parasol".

Total retro dress/hat/art pr0n.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:46 PM (GsAUU)

56 44 Anon Y

Eddie was a Longchamps habitue, & he was in Paris a LOT. I'm doubling down on what I posted in 49.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:47 PM (eXZrW)

57 I don't understand why women wear shoes like that.

It's just not women who wear shoes like that, transphobe!

Posted by: Shep Smith at September 23, 2017 05:47 PM (BiLU+)

58 Ugh, the logo on #4's purse, is that Yves Saint Laurent?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 05:47 PM (/qEW2)

59 And game related:

Here's an Internet Historian account of 4Chan harassing Gamestop employees over an imaginary Battletoads game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYmVdzgfhCY

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:47 PM (q177U)

60 Shep Smith

But of course, Shep. Pardon me for not thinking of you and your butties.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:48 PM (hyuyC)

61 If NFL players and their virtue signalling commish think cops are so racist and evil, maybe they could start paying for their own security at the games rather than having those racist taxpaying Americans pay those "racist" cops OT so that the NFL can get free armed security.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 05:48 PM (eh0Va)

62 The NFL isn't dead, it just smells funny.

Posted by: klaftern at September 23, 2017 05:49 PM (RuIsu)

63 And North Carolinas 2017 national championship Tar Heels will also not show up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, a team spokesman said on Saturday, the News & Observer reported.

Fuck UNC ( and I USED to be a big fan)...Go Duke
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:31 PM (SjImc)

--*SIGH*

The 'Zags would have happily visited 1600.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:49 PM (GsAUU)

64 1908 would be right down the middle of the plate for Edward VII, and I note the wasp waists, which is consistent.

Paris Demi-monde girls used to say, " 'Allo Wales!"
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:43 PM (eXZrW)


1908? Nah, he was a settled in old man by then. He burned his way around, when he was younger. I think none of that occurred after he was crowned.

His wife, Alexandria, was drop dead gorgeous herself, by the way.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2017 05:49 PM (Pz4pT)

65 That top image looks like an anime version of Cruella Deville and Cinderella playing a chess match.

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 05:50 PM (BiLU+)

66 tomorrow, i will watch nhra. nascar and the nfl are dead to me. my life won't change if never see their shitshow again. best part is, things are going to hell and both of them keep saying do moar of this shit that the fans hate. then we can blame the fans when they tell us to piss off. they are both dumber than a bag of hammers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 23, 2017 05:50 PM (KP5rU)

67 The NFL isn't dead, it just smells funny.

Smells like jockstraps and Goodell boogers

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 05:51 PM (6FqZa)

68 NaCly

I'm pretty sure I saw the same damn photo in a bio of Edward VII.

What u said isn't entirely inconsistent-- Eddie's girlfriends came from all backgrounds.

By 1908, he was very fat & would die in 2 years, though. These ladies would be more his style circa 1900.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:51 PM (eXZrW)

69 The problems are easy -- lt other people solve them!
But the endgame is tricky. I can only swing by for a minute, but it all comes down to half a tempo.

First of all, the d-pawn has to start running immedieatley, because 1. ... Kxd4 is an immediate draw.

So...1.d5

Now, the onyl way for black to stop the pawn is 1....B-b7.

But then if 2. d6, black goes 2. ... B-c6! And the black saves the draw by half a tempo after either 3. d7 or 3 a5 (no tiem to type out the moves.)

So the only trick I can see is 2. Bg2!!, hoping for a discovered/passed pawn sneak attack after d7. So black must go 3. ...Bc8, and only THEN go 4. a5! and both passed pawns will overburden the black bishop, and king can't catch them.

That's all I got.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2017 05:51 PM (DQ4Fv)

70 Problem 1.
1...Rd1+ 2.Kf2 Ne4+

Problem 2.
1.Nc2 traps the queen

Problem 3.
1.e6+ Nxe6 2.Rxe6 Qxe6 3.Nc5+

Problem 4.
Hmm. White is a rook up but has big problems around h2. I guess the solution starts with 1.Re8+ Bf8 2.Rxf8+ Kxf8. Now maybe 3.Nf5+ Kg8. I don't know.

Endgames are my downfall. I'd play 1.d5 and hope for the best. I don't like 1.Bf1+ because it means giving up one of my pawns.

Why doesn't McCain switch parties? As a Democrat he could vote for repeal and it would be bipartisan.

Posted by: bof at September 23, 2017 05:52 PM (bNftD)

71 My NFL consolation is that the team I cheer for is smack in Flyover Country.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:53 PM (GsAUU)

72 I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes. They can't be comfortable. This is why I believe high-heeled shoes were invented by Nazi sadists.


Jeff Foxworthy understood the function of high heels a long time ago.

https://youtu.be/So6DHQ-4YyI?t=55m

If it doesn't take you directly to it, its right at the 55 minute mark.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2017 05:53 PM (cAnNx)

73 Walkin' with my baby
She got great big feet
She long, lean, lanky
Ain't had nothin' to eat

She's my baby
I love her just the same
Yeah I'm crazy 'bout this woman
Caldonia's her name

Caldonia!
Caldonia!
What makes your big head so hard?
I love her
Yeah I love her just the same
You know I'm crazy 'bout this woman
Caldonia's her name


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LGyUEMZBxQ

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 05:53 PM (ODr92)

74 OK, OK I have the solution to the Anthem problem for the NFL. Players do not have to stand for the anthem, but they are not allowed to take the field if they want to kneel instead of stand. They can kneel in the locker room. Only players who want to stand can take the field for the anthem. If you kneel on the field you get fined. If you do it twice it's an automatic suspension. 3 times and you can't play in the NFL ever again.

Posted by: Max Power at September 23, 2017 05:54 PM (q177U)

75 Burt

I posted that before I saw your own similar post.

However, he kept his mistresses while he was King. A lot of them.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:54 PM (eXZrW)

76 71 My NFL consolation is that the team I cheer for is smack in Flyover Country.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 05:53 PM (GsAUU)

My NFL consolation is that I've found many other things to do on Sunday afternoons than torture myself watching the Jets

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 05:55 PM (eh0Va)

77 Those were enormous hats back then.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 05:55 PM (LTHVh)

78 I don't want to go on the cart!

Posted by: NFL at September 23, 2017 05:55 PM (gC2IV)

79 The NBA sucks also...in many ways even worse than the NFL..I mean when a guy named lebron is your head brain?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:56 PM (SjImc)

80 Burt

I posted that before I saw your own similar post.

However, he kept his mistresses while he was King. A lot of them.
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 05:54 PM (eXZrW)


Perhaps so. I would imagine, not so publicly anymore, however.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2017 05:56 PM (Pz4pT)

81 Jerry Jones at least is getting it that this kneeling bullshit is hurting the bottom line. He wants SJW Goodell canned with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 05:57 PM (eh0Va)

82 Oh Kobe the rapist and serial wife cheater questioned PDT's character today also..LMAO.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:58 PM (SjImc)

83 The three ladies seem to be French, non-aristocratic, and not quite upper class. They are attending the Hippodrome de Longchamp outside of Paris. It could be for the signature race, the horse race Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe in the fall of 1908.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 05:44 PM (hyuyC)


You can tell all that just from the picture? I'm impressed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 05:58 PM (gG2l4)

84 Jerry Jones at least is getting it that this kneeling bullshit is hurting the bottom line. He wants SJW Goodell canned with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 05:57 PM (eh0Va)

Yes but many of the other weenie white guilt old white men owners are caving and gutless cowards

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 05:59 PM (SjImc)

85 Anime chess?
*Shakes head*

There was a really fun series structured around Mah Jong. Akagi, I think it was called.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 23, 2017 05:59 PM (xJa6I)

86 This is the way the ladies ride
trit-trot, trit-trot, trit-trot

Posted by: zombie sir harry flashman, vc at September 23, 2017 05:59 PM (mJ8mX)

87 Yay, my weekly extra helping of feeling like a complete imbecile!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 05:59 PM (NWiLs)

88 Were there any animals harmed in the making of those hats?

Posted by: PETA at September 23, 2017 05:59 PM (/qEW2)

89 High heels make the calf more shapely and lifts the butt to make an average ass a GREAT ASS.

Please don't bring back those godawful clunky heeled shoes from the 90's that looked like something Hillary would wear.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 06:00 PM (eh0Va)

90 The NBA sucks also...in many ways even worse than the NFL..I mean when a guy named lebron is your head brain?

Posted by: Nevergiveup


Pinky and LeBron?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:01 PM (/qEW2)

91 Hats = awesomeness.

That is all.

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 23, 2017 06:01 PM (PzBTm)

92 NFL games are expensive, and NBA even more so, I believe (haven't researched NFL v. NBA ticket prices).

The live event audience for both these leagues skews 1) affluent (obviously); 2) suburban; 3) older than the general population; and 4) VERY Caucasian!

Draw your own conclusions here, Commissioners.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:02 PM (eXZrW)

93 81 Jerry Jones at least is getting it that this kneeling bullshit is hurting the bottom line. He wants SJW Goodell canned with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 05:57 PM (eh0Va)

--Next contract the NFL should deny their network affiliates panning to kneelers/sitters suring the anthem. Just focus on the performer, maybe a stander or two.

They're attention whores, so don't indulge them.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:02 PM (GsAUU)

94 The NFL seems to think they can expand by appealing to SJW Millennials who don't watch the NFL anyway. Doesn't the league realize that they play most of their games on Sunday afternoons when there are a lot of other things to do?

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 06:03 PM (eh0Va)

95 In the NBA the players are required to stand for the anthem. Their commish also doesn't say quite as many astonishingly stupid things as Goodell does.

This puts them over the NFL but that's a mighty low bar.

Though he's on the enemy team, I've always admired Steph Curry's talent, but I'm glad Trump told him to go fuck a rock.

Posted by: stace at September 23, 2017 06:03 PM (A6Xv7)

96 89 High heels make the calf more shapely and lifts the butt to make an average ass a GREAT ASS.

Please don't bring back those godawful clunky heeled shoes from the 90's that looked like something Hillary would wear.
Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2017 06:00 PM (eh0Va)

Great feet > Great calves

Posted by: Rex Ryan at September 23, 2017 06:04 PM (GsAUU)

97 83 OM. There are a couple of tells in that photo. It's not quite "Watson, you know my methods."

Uh, had a French girlfriend for years before I got married. She sure had a lot of shoes and a keen fashion sense, except for going with me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2017 06:06 PM (hyuyC)

98 Are those fairies playing chess? Fairies cheat you know.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:06 PM (UdKB7)

99 Pink purse girl looks a little like Kate Hudson.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:07 PM (NWiLs)

100 80 Burt

According to Churchill's memoirs, it wasn't very secret.

By the time he was crowned, his habits were baked into the cake already. It's a little too late to do the right thing now, as it were.

Nobody really cared very much. The most popular Kings & PMs were ladies' men. The voters (all men themselves) LIKED that.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:07 PM (eXZrW)

101 Prob #2! But only because of the hint. Wouldn't have gotten it in a million years

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 06:08 PM (Sv2/X)

102 I was first gojng to go with faeries instead of witches as the right one lokks like that, but first didn't think the left one did but now she could be

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2017 06:09 PM (ghofu)

103 However, he kept his mistresses while he was King. A lot of them.

It's good to be the King!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

104 The ONLY sport I am really able to watch now a days is MLB...They are pretty patriotic, at least here in the NY/NJ area and the funny thing is has the highest foreign population of players..go figure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:09 PM (SjImc)

105 Great feet > Great calves

Posted by: Rex Ryan at September 23, 2017 06:04 PM (GsAUU)

=============

Great toes > Great feet > Great calves

Posted by: Dick Morris at September 23, 2017 06:10 PM (BiLU+)

106 98 Are those fairies playing chess? Fairies cheat you know.
Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:06 PM (UdKB7)

--------------

You shut your whore mouth!

Posted by: Shep Smith at September 23, 2017 06:10 PM (gC2IV)

107 "Great toes > Great feet > Great calves"

I only care about the feet.

Posted by: Quentin at September 23, 2017 06:11 PM (sf2BM)

108 NHL best sport in the world.

Posted by: Strobe at September 23, 2017 06:11 PM (JMoma)

109 When Edward was crowned, expectations were very low. He actually did pretty well.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:11 PM (eXZrW)

110 The NFL seems to think they can expand by appealing to SJW Millennials who don't watch the NFL anyway.

An appeasement strategy! Hey maybe they won't hate us if we destroy ourselves.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 06:11 PM (tIhIY)

111 Burt

According to Churchill's memoirs, it wasn't very secret.

By the time he was crowned, his habits were baked into the cake already. It's a little too late to do the right thing now, as it were.

Nobody really cared very much. The most popular Kings & PMs were ladies' men. The voters (all men themselves) LIKED that.
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:07 PM (eXZrW)


No, what I mean is, it's ok for a prince and heir to the throne to be catting around, chasing skirts. Kings, not so much.

So... if after he became king he wanted to find some strange, they were going to have to be very discreet.

And besides, he was 60 years old when he was coronated. He was fat and wheezy and old. Maybe he still liked new ladies in his life. He just wasn't prowling around looking for it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2017 06:12 PM (Pz4pT)

112 100 80 Burt

According to Churchill's memoirs, it wasn't very secret.

By the time he was crowned, his habits were baked into the cake already. It's a little too late to do the right thing now, as it were.

Nobody really cared very much. The most popular Kings & PMs were ladies' men. The voters (all men themselves) LIKED that.
Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:07 PM (eXZrW)

--Ironically, probably the most staid, uptight (not using those words negatively here) PM was probably Gladstone --a Liberal.

Posted by: Rex Ryan at September 23, 2017 06:12 PM (GsAUU)

113 "You shut your whore mouth!"
Posted by: Shep Smith



You first Tinkerbell.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:13 PM (UdKB7)

114 >>>I don't understand why women wear shoes like that. Look at them; they force her to walk pretty much on her tip toes. They can't be comfortable. This is why I believe high-heeled shoes were invented by Nazi sadists.

They're terrible for the posture. They make calves pop for men who are into women's legs, but you wouldn't want to wear them every day.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 23, 2017 06:13 PM (Zd2ZF)

115 100 80 Burt

According to Churchill's memoirs, it wasn't very secret.

By the time he was crowned, his habits were baked into the cake already. It's a little too late to do the right thing now, as it were.

Nobody really cared very much. The most popular Kings PMs were ladies' men. The voters (all men themselves) LIKED that.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:07 PM (eXZrW)

============

Ironic. One of his rumored mistresses (at least a woman with whom he socialized) was Winston's mother Jennie Jerome -- later to become Lady Randolph Churchill.

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 06:13 PM (BiLU+)

116 /Foot fetish sock

108 NHL best sport in the world.
Posted by: Strobe at September 23, 2017 06:11 PM (JMoma)


--Man's game

Just a few days before I can repeat:

SHUT UP

HOCKEY'S ON

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:14 PM (GsAUU)

117 People in the stands should start yelling, "WHY YOU KNEELING? YOU ABOUT TO SUCK SOME DICK?"

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 23, 2017 06:15 PM (2NqXo)

118
Got back from the local large liquor store a little while ago. It's their 8th anniversary. Nice sign out front read "Blues, Booze and BBQ".

Bunghole Liquors in Peabody, MA?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 06:15 PM (IW5NJ)

119 --Next contract the NFL should deny their network affiliates panning to kneelers/sitters suring the anthem. Just focus on the performer, maybe a stander or two.

They're attention whores, so don't indulge them.

Posted by: logprof


While it would be nice to deny them the publicity they desperately crave, I think it's best to help them along on their suicidal course. Let them showcase to all the consumers exactly what they are paying for - people who spit in their faces. It will hasten their demise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:16 PM (/qEW2)

120 Wow PDT says "get that son of a bitch off the field right now". I love it I don't care what anyone says Trump is awesome.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:17 PM (UdKB7)

121 Are those fairies playing chess? Fairies cheat you know.
Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:06 PM (UdKB7)


I thought fairies wore boots.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 06:18 PM (gG2l4)

122
*Takes a knee during Chess Thread*

Posted by: SJW Warrior!! at September 23, 2017 06:18 PM (EgwCt)

123 120 Wow PDT says "get that son of a bitch off the field right now". I love it I don't care what anyone says Trump is awesome.
Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:17 PM (UdKB7)

--Who is he talking about?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:18 PM (GsAUU)

124 Waste of money and time having athletic teams visit the White Houses anyway.

Posted by: Quentin at September 23, 2017 06:19 PM (sf2BM)

125 'I thought fairies wore boots'

Some do. Have you seen it with your own two eyes?

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:20 PM (UdKB7)

126 Vanderbilt is just getting destroyed by Alabama. The entire first string OL is on the bench.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 06:20 PM (LTHVh)

127 The one with the black hair is too fair skinned. She might be skilled in necromancy but she is no evil with.

IMO.

Posted by: Quentin at September 23, 2017 06:21 PM (sf2BM)

128 heh. Flock of ten turkeys just wandered through the back yard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2017 06:21 PM (5IJky)

129 /stupid sock

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 06:23 PM (sf2BM)

130 People in the stands should start yelling, "WHY YOU KNEELING? YOU ABOUT TO SUCK SOME DICK?"

Posted by: JuJuBee


Needs to be shorter for a chant. "KNEELING COCKSUCKERS!"

But it probably wouldn't work. The only people who would buy tickets are probably such hardcore football fans they wouldn't consider that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:23 PM (/qEW2)

131 Did someone say Wild Turkey?

Posted by: Hillary! at September 23, 2017 06:23 PM (gC2IV)

132 TD by the 4th string RB behind the 2nd string OL. 59-0.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2017 06:23 PM (LTHVh)

133 130 People in the stands should start yelling, "WHY YOU KNEELING? YOU ABOUT TO SUCK SOME DICK?"

Posted by: JuJuBee

Needs to be shorter for a chant. "KNEELING COCKSUCKERS!"

But it probably wouldn't work. The only people who would buy tickets are probably such hardcore football fans they wouldn't consider that.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:23 PM (/qEW2)

KAEPERNICK LIKES SUCKING DICK!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:26 PM (NWiLs)

134 Teddy's playboy lifestyle won the French over to allying with Britain. Yhe link doesn't mention it but Parisian crowds initially booed him at the start of his first trip there. I'd Bing for it but I'm on the pita tablet.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:26 PM (mJ8mX)

135 I'd Bing for it but I'm on the pita tablet.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:26 PM (mJ8mX)

At least you can eat it if you get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:27 PM (NWiLs)

136 He wasn't specific about which son of a bitch.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 06:28 PM (UdKB7)

137 ...but were cheering him before he left.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:29 PM (mJ8mX)

138

KAEPERNICK LIKES SUCKING DICK!

EE-I-EE-I-O

Posted by: Old MacDonald at September 23, 2017 06:31 PM (IqV8l)

139 That picture up top is now my desktop theme, thanks!

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 06:33 PM (BFYeS)

140 Going to try an Indian place tonight for dinner. Dot, not woo-woo. Which raises a question, are there any woo-woo Indian places?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:34 PM (Sfs6o)

141 Going to try an Indian place tonight for dinner. Dot, not woo-woo. Which raises a question, are there any woo-woo Indian places?
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:34 PM (Sfs6o)

Been nice knowing ya!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:35 PM (SjImc)

142 Chess thread is Da Bomb!

Chess, big booty gals in dresses, President Trump telling people to protest the protesters and a manhattan.

The first lady in the 1908 pic sure has a nice round asset.

Life is grand!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 06:35 PM (5VlCp)

143 Found the linked picture but wiki didn't have an associated article.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 06:35 PM (ODr92)

144 141 Going to try an Indian place tonight for dinner. Dot, not woo-woo. Which raises a question, are there any woo-woo Indian places?
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:34 PM (Sfs6o)
Been nice knowing ya!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:35 PM (SjImc)


Woo-woo?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 06:36 PM (gG2l4)

145 I don't know who I hate more, the NFL or McShit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:36 PM (SjImc)

146 For those interested in joining the HQ guilds on WoW:
Inspector Cussword and I will be running toons most of the day on Hellscream if anyone wants to contact us to join ValU Rite Pudding Horde/side. Alliance/side is on Rexxar and we are going to (hopefully) run there as well at least a couple times a week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2017 06:37 PM (rp9xB)

147 I do not like socking the fetishists. Thanks for taking on this duty for once, whoever you are.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:37 PM (/qEW2)

148 "Woo-woo?"

Injuns, like fauxchahantas.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 06:37 PM (sf2BM)

149 solutions up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 06:38 PM (gG2l4)

150 hi Hordesters!

I just read that President Trump withdrew Stephen Curry's invitation to the WH since Curry said he didn't want to go.

Winning!

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 06:39 PM (SBgDf)

151 115 Shain

Churchill mentions a few of Jenny's lovers by name, and he also writes casually about Edward VII... but those two paths don't cross. I've never read about Jenny & Edward VII being an item.

As for the King & Jenny moving in the same social circle: of course.


Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:39 PM (eXZrW)

152
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 06:36 PM (gG2l4)
--------
Woo-woo Indian = stands on the side of the road and cries at litter.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:40 PM (Sfs6o)

153 145 I don't know who I hate more, the NFL or McShit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:36 PM (SjImc)

================

The judges need you to be more specific.

Posted by: McConnell or McCain at September 23, 2017 06:40 PM (BiLU+)

154 Got
back from the local large liquor store a little while ago. It's their
8th anniversary. Nice sign out front read "Blues, Booze and BBQ".



Bunghole Liquors in Peabody, MA?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 06:15 PM
Ah! A local!*northshore fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 23, 2017 06:40 PM (r+FGF)

155 The picture is the red queen vs the white queen from Alice in Wonderland. Anime version.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (CBY8j)

156 These athletes are making the same mistake actors are making.

Their business is based on suspension of belief.

Break that spell and there's no reason to watch.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (BFYeS)

157
Woo-woo Indian = stands on the side of the road and cries at litter.
Posted by: Weasel


Isn't that a Boo Hoo Indian?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (IqV8l)

158 148 "Woo-woo?"

Injuns, like fauxchahantas.
Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 06:37 PM (sf2BM)

Great crab dip.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:42 PM (NWiLs)

159 As for the King Jenny moving in the same social circle: of course.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:39 PM (eXZrW)

===========

That makes sense. Don't recall where I read that, but it was most likely -- as you say -- them moving in the same social circles rather than an actual affair. Thanks!

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 06:42 PM (BiLU+)

160 So the three ladies in the first black and white photo are so hot, Jesus, checkmate.

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2017 06:42 PM (z74gh)

161 But the screen gets all greasy then, Insomniac.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:43 PM (mJ8mX)

162 Woo-woo Indian = stands on the side of the road and cries at litter.
Posted by: Weasel

Isn't that a Boo Hoo Indian?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (IqV8l)
----------
Technically a subset of woo-woo. Not all woo-woo's give a shit.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:43 PM (Sfs6o)

163
A local!*northshore fistbump*

Ha.

I was not aware it existed until today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 06:43 PM (IW5NJ)

164 143 Found the linked picture but wiki didn't have an associated article.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 06:35 PM (ODr92)

++++

http://tinyurl.com/y99ce99h

Found via Twitter account Whores of Yore. lol

https://twitter.com/whoresofyore/status/840642996756443138

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 06:44 PM (pvjTE)

165 158 148 "Woo-woo?"

Injuns, like fauxchahantas.
Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 06:37 PM (sf2BM)

Great crab dip.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 06:42 PM (NWiLs)

--Sadly, the great prairie crab hordes of yore have gone the way of the passenger pigeon.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:45 PM (GsAUU)

166 162 Woo-woo Indian = stands on the side of the road and cries at litter.
Posted by: Weasel

Isn't that a Boo Hoo Indian?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (IqV8l)
----------
Technically a subset of woo-woo. Not all woo-woo's give a shit.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2017 06:43 PM (Sfs6o)



Technically its cultural appropriation by a greasy Italian.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2017 06:45 PM (cAnNx)

167 These athletes are making the same mistake actors are making. Their business is based on suspension of belief. Break that spell and there's no reason to watch.

Like what ace was saying about "para-social". Your primitive monkey brain makes you think you have a connection with that guy on the telly. But no. No, you don't.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 06:45 PM (6FqZa)

168
President Trump has something that no other Republican in recent times has had:

A "fuck me?, no, fuck YOU" attitude.

We need that.

Bush was a big pussy. Still is.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 06:45 PM (IW5NJ)

169 161 But the screen gets all greasy then, Insomniac.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:43 PM (mJ8mX)

--Greasy?

https://youtu.be/h8VOeWlvH_o

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:46 PM (GsAUU)

170 Surprised someone hasn't went to court and try and block President Trump from twitter.

He's handing proggie ass right back to em and it has got to hurt.

Posted by: the guy across the street at September 23, 2017 06:46 PM (sf2BM)

171 My favorite dress is the embroidered pink one with the lace on the edges of the sleeves. But my favorite hairdo is the girl in the second picture wearing the red dress. I love the way her hair is braided away from her face.

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 06:46 PM (SBgDf)

172 Going to try an Indian place tonight for dinner. Dot, not woo-woo. Which raises a question, are there any woo-woo Indian places?

Posted by: Weasel


But Indians (dot) DO believe in a lot of woo-woo.

The first time I ever heard of the term "woo-woo" was listening to an interfaith podcast including atheist Michael Shermer, and Deepak Chopra. Chopra was talking all this mystical nonsense about quantum entanglement which proves human interconnectedness, and Shermer said "That's woo-woo!" and Chopra said "No! Dat is not woo-woo!"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 06:47 PM (/qEW2)

173 Back to back comments with "whores of yore" and "hordes of yore".

This is why I keep coming back.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)

174 156 These athletes are making the same mistake actors are making.

Their business is based on suspension of belief.

Break that spell and there's no reason to watch.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 06:41 PM (BFYeS)

================

Rush made a great point about this last week. When he was working for the KC Royals, they were out in Scottsdale for a marketing gathering.

He said a sociologist from Harvard was there to speak to the group, and told them something he never forgot: Sports is the only avenue in which one can invest TOTAL PASSION without suffering any ill consequences (as opposed to, say a lover, whom might reject you).

Anyway, to your point, if fans now suffer ill consequences from their favorite teams as we're seeing currently -- they will no longer be your fans.

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 06:48 PM (BiLU+)

175 I resolve to make my next insult incorporate "greasy bastard." Otherwise, it's a lost opportunity.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:52 PM (GsAUU)

176 Clemson whups Boston College. Boston College always worries me, though. Picked a spot for Mrs. E's deerstand this morning. Now we have to set it.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2017 06:52 PM (zLDYs)

177 Trump isn't really a Republican. He's an Insurgent who swooped in and grabbed the nomination out from under the upraised snobby noses of the GOPe.

Trump is the closest thing to an independent, nonpartisan, citizen politico the country has ever seen.

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 06:52 PM (BFYeS)

178 Alas, poor Whorrik. I knew him, Whorratio.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 06:53 PM (6FqZa)

179 Trump's personality is too big for a box.

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 06:53 PM (SBgDf)

180 177 Trump isn't really a Republican. He's an Insurgent who swooped in and grabbed the nomination out from under the upraised snobby noses of the GOPe.

Trump is the closest thing to an independent, nonpartisan, citizen politico the country has ever seen.
Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 06:52 PM (BFYeS)

--Since Washington.

*Reverently lowers head*

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

181 164 143 Anon & Newt

Impressive detective work.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:54 PM (eXZrW)

182 "Greasy bastard."

Reminds me of a line from MST that made me guffaw:

Scene cuts to a ship at port, and Crow says, "Meanwhile, on the 'Greasy Bastard...'"

It's a funny and descriptive phrase, or was before I started this tedious account.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 06:55 PM (T/7Cm)

183 Trump extended the invitation and then withdrew it. Therefore he is an Indian giver. Which is unconstitutional.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (gC2IV)

184 182 "Greasy bastard."

Reminds me of a line from MST that made me guffaw:

Scene cuts to a ship at port, and Crow says, "Meanwhile, on the 'Greasy Bastard...'"

It's a funny and descriptive phrase, or was before I started this tedious account.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 06:55 PM (T/7Cm)

--What was the movie?

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (GsAUU)

185 88 Were there any animals harmed in the making of those hats?
Posted by: PETA

Actually, yes and it was a BF'ng Deal at the time.
"Plume Hunting" near to extinction.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plume_hunting

Posted by: bdc at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (ZKlDy)

186 --What was the movie?
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (GsAUU)

Can't remember off-hand. I've been binge-watching hell out of that show lately. Pretty sure it was an older one with Joel.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (T/7Cm)

187 LOLdonna:
http://tinyurl.com/y8rwnzmd

3848 units sold. That is a very selective appeal.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (6FqZa)

188 That picture up top is now my desktop theme, thanks!
-----
The ass-crack doggie one?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (mJ8mX)

189 Professional athletes, including NFL players, are businessmen. These morons are destroying their own brands.
One of the things about business is nobody has to buy and their numbers are starting to shrink.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (nBr1j)

190 174 Shain

Makes sense. There are entertainment figures I admire for their art (Kevin Spacey comes to mind) whom I avoid now because I can't stand their politics. I know I'm not alone.

(Spellcheck really wants you to be "Shaun," btw.)

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 06:59 PM (eXZrW)

191 I absolutely farcking love it- Take your shitty attitude and stay home Curry.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 06:59 PM (0NwUA)

192 Trump extended the invitation and then withdrew it. Therefore he is an Indian giver. Which is unconstitutional.
Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (gC2IV)

OK that there is pretty funny...I wish I had said it, but I will steal it!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 06:59 PM (SjImc)

193 173 Back to back comments with "whores of yore" and "hordes of yore".

This is why I keep coming back.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)


Not to mention the woo-woo.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 23, 2017 06:59 PM (gG2l4)

194 ...might have been Double 007. The one with Sean Connery's brother Neil.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 06:59 PM (T/7Cm)

195 Professional athletes, including NFL players, are businessmen. These morons are destroying their own brands.
One of the things about business is nobody has to buy and their numbers are starting to shrink.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (nBr1j)

I don't get your point?

Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:00 PM (SjImc)

196 183 Trump extended the invitation and then withdrew it. Therefore he is an Indian giver. Which is unconstitutional.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 06:56 PM (gC2IV)

=================

I uphold this ruling as I find Indian giving mandated by the Emma Lazarus Statue of Liberty poem.

Posted by: Justice Anthony Kennedy at September 23, 2017 07:01 PM (BiLU+)

197 "Greasy bastard."
Reminds me of a line from MST that made me guffaw:
Scene cuts to a ship at port, and Crow says, "Meanwhile, on the 'Greasy Bastard...'"
It's a funny and descriptive phrase, or was before I started this tedious account.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 06:55 PM (T/7Cm)

Hahaha....I saw one time on a Jerry Springer type show a black chick was telling her sister not to keep dating this fat guy she called a "big, fat, nasty, old greasy bastard".

Seemed appropriate.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 07:01 PM (5VlCp)

198 These athletes are making the same mistake actors are making.


Interesting that the ratings for both are in the toilet, NFL ratings/attendance and Hollywood Box Office.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2017 07:02 PM (oVJmc)

199 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2017 06:44 PM (pvjTE)

Thanks.

Posted by: gNewt at September 23, 2017 07:02 PM (ODr92)

200 3848 units sold. That is a very selective appeal.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 23, 2017 06:58 PM (6FqZa)

===============

We'd kill for those numbers!

Posted by: Hillary, Al Gore, and the Apple iPhone 8 in China at September 23, 2017 07:03 PM (BiLU+)

201 NGU- I sent you an email awhile back about the Scotch for the meet up. If you didn't receive it let me know here. Thank You.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 07:03 PM (0NwUA)

202 We apologize for using the term Indian giver. Those responsible for the previous comment have been sacked.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:03 PM (gC2IV)

203 What did Steph Curry do?

Before I find out, Steph grew up in the lap of luxury, the son of another NBA player (and a pretty good one, at that), and had more privilege than 99% of Whites.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:04 PM (GsAUU)

204 Hahaha....I saw one time on a Jerry Springer type show a black chick was telling her sister not to keep dating this fat guy she called a "big, fat, nasty, old greasy bastard".

Seemed appropriate.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 07:01 PM (5VlCp)

--If you have not done so already, get thee to Trailer Park Boys.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:06 PM (GsAUU)

205 logprof, curry story at conservative treehouse

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:06 PM (SBgDf)

206 Well. I'm watching the Michigan game. Second targeting penalty on Purdue.

Kind of sad to see the sport of football die before my very eyes. Pathetic, really.

guess it's time for Mystery Science Theater. Next up: Santa Claus! the Mexican one, featuring a jolly old elf who looks a lot like Cheech Marin.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:07 PM (T/7Cm)

207 NGU- I sent you an email awhile back about the Scotch for the meet up. If you didn't receive it let me know here. Thank You.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 07:03 PM (0NwUA)

Will check later

Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:09 PM (SjImc)

208 205 logprof, curry story at conservative treehouse
Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:06 PM (SBgDf)

--Awesome.

Oh, and I was on the Trump Train early.

Interesting case was James Harrison from the Stillers passing on the visit when Barky was Predizzle.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:09 PM (GsAUU)

209 NFL numbers ARE shrinking recently, but there are several different explanation offered for that. Rush discussed that last week.

NFL itself points to fact that a fan can now watch his/her team's games on the 'Net 24/7. Rush pointed out that it used to be if you were a Steelers fan living anywhere but Pittsburgh, you only had one or two chances a season to see your team play & that was on broadcast TV.

I HOPE NFL is suffering because of all their liquid horsezhit, but it's not certain. NFL of course insists that fan unhappiness with kneeling isn't part of their problem at all.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 07:10 PM (eXZrW)

210 And Curry's half white.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 07:10 PM (mJ8mX)

211 206

Well. I'm watching the Michigan game. Second targeting penalty on Purdue.

Kind of sad to see the sport of football die before my very eyes. Pathetic, really.

guess it's time for Mystery Science Theater. Next up: Santa Claus! the Mexican one, featuring a jolly old elf who looks a lot like Cheech Marin.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:07 PM (T/7Cm)

What's a " targeting" penalty?? Is it where a player is penalized for intentionally trying to tackle someone???

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:10 PM (zSVEm)

212 If you have not done so already, get thee to Trailer Park Boys.
Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:06 PM (GsAUU)


Hahaha...I youboobed it and that looks like her, red hair and all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 23, 2017 07:11 PM (5VlCp)

213 From sidebar:

"Civil asset forfeiture nightmare: Man loses truck over five rounds of ammunition
We're from the government and we're here to help."

This shit needs to stop. It's nothing more than armed robbery and carjacking.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:12 PM (NWiLs)

214 BTW that quote from Ezekiel at Conservative Treehouse is gold. Totally gonna steal it.

(See also I Timothy 5:

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:12 PM (GsAUU)

215 Whereas and heretofore and all matters pertaining. Wait, we got all caught up in the legal mumbo jumbo and forgot what we were going to say. Give us a minute.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:12 PM (gC2IV)

216 What's a " targeting" penalty?? Is it where a player is penalized for intentionally trying to tackle someone???
Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:10 PM (zSVEm)

Pretty damn close. Basically it's when the defender's helmet, shoulder pad or arm strikes the "defenseless" offensive player on his helmet.

Stupid shit. Can't wait for hockey.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:13 PM (T/7Cm)

217 Whatever the nFL poohbahs say, what tore things with me and the NFL was the SJW nonsense by the players, and managements collusion.

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:14 PM (zSVEm)

218 Oh. Forgot the punchline: targeting includes ejection from the game.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:14 PM (T/7Cm)

219 What's a " targeting" penalty?? Is it where a player is penalized for intentionally trying to tackle someone???

When you launch yourself unecessatily into a defenseless player. Maybe at his knees or at his head.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 07:14 PM (tIhIY)

220 yeah, I couldn't get over that Ezekiel spoke of a man like Trump. I like Sundance's willingness to be 100% behind him.

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:15 PM (SBgDf)

221 There are presumably a lot of discussions happening around the National Football League about President Donald Trumps comments regarding players sitting for the national anthem, and the Buffalo Bills will be talking about them at a team meeting Saturday night.

I suggest you dopes concentrate on foot a ball since you suck

Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:15 PM (SjImc)

222 Sheesh- The chess picture is straight out of Tim Burton's twisted mind.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2017 07:15 PM (0NwUA)

223

I think those NFL'rs are soooo manly, down on their knees...

Posted by: Shemp Smith, Greased Up Bastard at September 23, 2017 07:16 PM (qul7b)

224 217 kraken

Amen.

However, I just lost interest before that. Not sure why-- maybe two teams leaving STL, in part.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 07:16 PM (eXZrW)

225 The two targeting penalties I saw involved a guy trying to tackle the guy with the ball. Nothing flagrant about either one.

Like I said, football is dying in an embarrassing way.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (T/7Cm)

226 And Curry's half white.

Posted by: andycanuck


This is a curious phenomenon. Curry, Obama, Krapperdick, Susan Rice, etc. They all "identify" as black. And they are full of resentment. It's almost as if they were racists in the sense that they are white supremacists and are bitter that they aren't fully white. I really wonder what is going on inside these people's heads.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (/qEW2)

227 225 The two targeting penalties I saw involved a guy trying to tackle the guy with the ball. Nothing flagrant about either one.

Like I said, football is dying in an embarrassing way.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (T/7Cm)

Maybe hang little pieces of cloth on their rear ends...

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:18 PM (zSVEm)

228 This is a curious phenomenon. Curry, Obama, Krapperdick, Susan Rice, etc. They all "identify" as black. And they are full of resentment. It's almost as if they were racists in the sense that they are white supremacists and are bitter that they aren't fully white. I really wonder what is going on inside these people's heads.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (/qEW2)

Race relations are at a 50 year low. And getting worse. Charles manson would be proud

Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:18 PM (SjImc)

229 that IS interesting, Steve. the people you mention seem filled with bitter hate toward Whites, and therefore, self-hatred, hatred of their white family members.

hate distorts and disables them from being true.

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:19 PM (SBgDf)

230 So where were we? Oh yeah. Therefore and whereas and hereunto pertaining, any team without 50% trans players is now unconstitutional. We also decree that Michael Sam is now the QB of the Patriots.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:19 PM (gC2IV)

231 logprof-- which verse in 1 tim. 5?

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:20 PM (SBgDf)

232 That's what I think too, Steve n CB; they wrongly ascribed any problems they have despite their good finances to racism so it's not a personal fault.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2017 07:21 PM (mJ8mX)

233 So, those 3 beautiful 1908 women are hired fashion models, paid to go walk around at the racetrack & attract attention. No wonder they look spiffy... models.

Posted by: mnw at September 23, 2017 07:21 PM (eXZrW)

234 I judge a man by his enemies.
PDT's are North Korea, Iran, and The NFL

Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:22 PM (SjImc)

235 228 This is a curious phenomenon. Curry, Obama, Krapperdick, Susan Rice, etc. They all "identify" as black. And they are full of resentment. It's almost as if they were racists in the sense that they are white supremacists and are bitter that they aren't fully white. I really wonder what is going on inside these people's heads.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (/qEW2)

Race relations are at a 50 year low. And getting worse. Charles manson would be proud
Posted by: Target at September 23, 2017 07:18 PM (SjImc)

That seems to be the most true in urban areas and with politicians/celebutards. It's not something I experience individually, but then again I'm a suburbanite.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:22 PM (NWiLs)

236 Serious question... how are mixed race people counted in the census.... ??

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:23 PM (zSVEm)

237 We also enjoin NGU from wearing socks.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:23 PM (gC2IV)

238 kraken, each person gets to decide which racial group to claim as his own.

Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:24 PM (SBgDf)

239 Ooh, this is getting good. Delicious.

But note, "muh sports" is much more important to most people than the country, or anything that's actually important, so don't expect that big a fan walk-out. Country didn't get where it is by being serious, you will recall.

Oh - and as for what goes on in the heads of those people mentioned above - answer is "not much", as evidenced by their statements, beliefs, and behavior.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 07:24 PM (0BFUD)

240 We also enjoin NGU from wearing socks.
Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:23 PM (gC2IV)


Ah fuck, I always forget the taking of the sock part. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 07:25 PM (SjImc)

241 226
This is a curious phenomenon. Curry, Obama, Krapperdick, Susan Rice, etc. They all "identify" as black. And they are full of resentment. It's almost as if they were racists in the sense that they are white supremacists and are bitter that they aren't fully white. I really wonder what is going on inside these people's heads.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2017 07:17 PM (/qEW2)


Not only that, but it's also a well-known phenomenon that lighter-skinned blacks tend to look down on darker-skinned blacks.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (sdi6R)

242 238 kraken, each person gets to decide which racial group to claim as his own.
Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:24 PM (SBgDf)
Really... so anyone can claim anything, depending on... a possible benefit, preferential treatment, maybe...?

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (zSVEm)

243 The blonde in the red dress looks quite fetching.
Do you think the pretty lass with the red lipstick carrying the bread would mind making me a sammich? I'd be very appreciative!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (QMwOT)

244 236 Serious question... how are mixed race people counted in the census.... ??

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:23 PM (zSVEm)

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I believe in the U.S. Census (unsure since when) you can check multiple race boxes.

Here's a link to a census page entitled "2010 Census Shows Multiple-Race Population Grew Faster Than Single-Race Population":

http://tinyurl.com/y9fydz8f

Posted by: ShainS at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (BiLU+)

245 242 238 kraken, each person gets to decide which racial group to claim as his own.
Posted by: booknlass at September 23, 2017 07:24 PM (SBgDf)
Really... so anyone can claim anything, depending on... a possible benefit, preferential treatment, maybe...?
Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (zSVEm)

I identify as being born a poor black child.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:26 PM (NWiLs)

246 booknlass, I got smilied.

I Timothy 5:8

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2017 07:27 PM (GsAUU)

247 BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?

Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (BFYeS)

248 The New England Patriots lawyers have pointed out that their current QB is a homo so our previous order is rescinded. Michael Sam can go to the Steelers.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (gC2IV)

249 247 BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?
Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (BFYeS)

There's still time. Of course, it may have already ended and we're all in hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (NWiLs)

250 247 BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?
Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (BFYeS)

I'm thinking yes. Turns out the end of the world is really boring.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (T/7Cm)

251 BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?
Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (BFYeS)

Days not over

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (SjImc)

252 Hmmm... I can see I've been doing this " Census" thing all wrong.. next one, it is do- over time... my friends and family will be shocked by my revelation...

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (zSVEm)

253 Hey everybody.

Enjoying a delicious pizza this afternoon. It's helping to drown my sorrows over missing the GNAMM this weekend. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (eMKNe)

254 Love the babes in corsets by the way.
Also in red high heels. Babes in red high heels = male catnip

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (QMwOT)

255 And I'm hoping for/expecting big doings tomorrow for NFL anthem time. Goodell is truly beyond comprehension - and as he's just a clerk for the owners, WTF are the owners (or their exec committee) thinking here?

Nice to see the NCAA also getting into the act. Isn't North Carolina (the state) still under "sanctions" from absurd places like CA for their bathroom law, or did that get "fixed"?

Just love the idiocy and degradation of the country on display with the cretins consuming themselves - and in the conflagration also consuming some of the more expendable "traditions", like WH visits for champions.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (0BFUD)

256 'BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?'

Yes. Your reality however continues unabated.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2017 07:29 PM (UdKB7)

257 Endgame of the Week (579)

I say skewer the bishop and worry about the rest later.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2017 07:30 PM (YXJ+5)

258 I was able to recreate the position on the board in the painting. White is a bishop down and is in the process of moving a knight. I can't see any obvious threats one way or the other.

Here is the position I got:
1r2r1k
2q2p1p
b2p1np1
2pP4
3b1P2
1P4PB
3Q3P
1R2R1K1

Plus the N White is holding in her hand.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2017 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

259 Hmmm... I can see I've been doing this " Census" thing all wrong.. next one, it is do- over time... my friends and family will be shocked by my revelation...

In 70+ years when the raw data is released.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 23, 2017 07:31 PM (v8B+3)

260 Well, it's the end of the world, as we know it.... but, oddly, I feel fine...

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2017 07:31 PM (zSVEm)

261 247 BTW, I wasn't paying close attention. Did the world end today?
Posted by: davidt at September 23, 2017 07:28 PM (BFYeS)

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No, we put a temporary restraint order against the apocalypse. You're welcome.

Posted by: 9th Circus at September 23, 2017 07:31 PM (gC2IV)